
oldsmobile-digest           Saturday, 4 May 1996        Volume 01 : Number 166


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From: Cary Yamamoto <yamamoto@unr.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:15:18 -0300
Subject: 66 Toro

Well I checked out the Toro last night.  It certainly is a project car.
The body is relatively striaght save for rust in the rocker of the pass
front fender.  He's got a replacement. The rear fender over the wheel has
a decent dent in it. He backed into it with his truck.   It has alot of
surface rust
from sitting out.  The interior seats front and back have been redone in
original fabric (I think.  It looks like that embroidered style fabric)  

There is a rechromed set of bumpers with it and another trunk lid.  

He has two sets of dash panels and heater controls with it.  The cv join
boot is torn on one side.  He has the replacement for that too.  

He's asking 1200.  Its got 73,000 miles on it.  Purchased from the
original owner.  

What do you guys think?



Cary Yamamoto                                 University of NV, Reno
Coordinator,                                  Prospective Students/110
Prospective Students                          Reno, NV  89557
                                              (702) 784-4865 
	                                      (702) 784-1852 fax	 

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From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.EDU>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:28:11 -0300
Subject: Re: What is going on

> Well I wasn't talking about just the gas, it seems the last little while
> everything from computers to to it seems like daily diary's have been posted. 

Are you referring to the "weekend plans" discussion?  Keep in mind that 
all of those were devoted solely to time spent with Oldsmobiles.  
Personally, I enjoy reading about people's experiences at junkyards, in 
garages, and the like -- I'm pretty sure a majority of "listies" would agree!

8)
peg

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From: Scott R Clark <mickeyd@selway.umt.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:12:38 -0300
Subject: Fuel Pumps...was Re: Olds

> I havb a '57 super 88 and I'm having a severe vapor lock problem. I can 
> only drive my car a few miles before it stalls. I can see through the 

	*snip*

> Can it be my fuel pump? 
> My theory is that my fuel pump has a glass resivour on the bottom that 
> hold quite a bit of gas. It seemed pretty hot when I touched it. I think 
> the gas is sitting in that resivour and heating up. That is where I think 
> it is vaporiziong. Don't other fuel pumps just pump fuel strait through 
> and not hold it in the fuel pump? This is why I think I am having 
> vaporizing, what can I do? Does anyone have a fuel pump like this. It has 
> a glass bowl on the bottom? Any suggestions you can make will be greatly 

	My '60 has the same type of fuel pump (dual action with a glass bowl 
and filter at the bottem).  Fuel comes in off the line, and heads through 
a filter, into the resivior and then gets sucked up through a hole in the 
middle of the filter (looks like a donut) and gets piped off to the carb.

	The reason for the bowl being there is to allow you to get at the 
filter in there (I think), although it sounds like it could be missing 
on your pump (it was long gone on my old one too).  I've had mine get 
pretty hot before, but no problems so far, but I don't know.  It dosn't 
sound like it's the fuel pump though.  Any other ideas?    

	
			Scott
		1960 Oldsmobile Rocket 98

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From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.EDU>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:30:36 -0300
Subject: Re: What is going on

> Well I was thinking these topics shouldn't tangentially relate they should
> be specifically about Oldsmobiles.

Well, I don't think there should be any hard-and-fast rules about stuff 
like that.  That really limits people, and that's not what this list is 
about.  True, it is about Oldsmobiles, but these cars are so integrated 
into our lives that's it hard to keep them totally separate -- and I 
wouldn't wanna separate them; that's what makes it fun.  :)

8)
peg

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From: Scott R Clark <mickeyd@selway.umt.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:47:49 -0300
Subject: Degreasing engine hardware... was Re: AUGH! Cooling problems (and paint 

> 
> Yeah, and what about home hot-tanking with draino? What will that do for
> those cruddy engine bolts (greasy&rusty) that I'd like to reuse?
> 

	I had pretty good success with hot tanking the bolts on my 394 last 
summer in my little 5 gallon hot tank.  What I did was take an old 
"Miracle Whip" jar, and poke a bunch of holes in the top with a nail.  Then I just 
put a pice of coat hanger through a couple of the holes to use as a handle.  
	
	Then, all you have to do is fill the jar with bolts, and sink it in 
the hot-tank!  You could also use something like thoes little baskets you 
get in buckets of carb cleaner I suppose, but with the jar there is no 
chance of spilling the bolts (and having to fish them out of the hot 
tank).  

	At any rate, it works pretty good.  After soaking them for a few 
hours I would just drain the jar, empty the bolts and hose them off.  A 
shot of carb cleaner should get any residual goo off them.  Worked like a 
charm.

	One final note if you plan on building a hot tank--use "Red Devil 
Lye"  instead of Drano.  I think Drano has some inert ingrediants, but 
Red Devil is supposed to be pure NaOH.  
		Hope this helps!

			
				Scott
			1960 Oldsmobile Rocket 98

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From: Scott R Clark <mickeyd@selway.umt.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:02:18 -0300
Subject: 1960 Rocket Pace Car...was Re: Here she is... Miss America

	*snip* cool stuff

> and is sort of rough.  Would be a neat car to restore, though.  I've seen '60
> 98 Pace Car replicas, but never a Miss America Car.  Some of  his cars even
> had the sash, from the young lady riding in the back seat, tucked away in the
> glove box.

	Funny you should mention 1960 pace cars, since I was going to bring 
them up today.  :)  

	Yesterday when I was crusing the mall I dropped by Walden Books to 
check out the Automotive section.  They finally got in a copy of "The 
Standard Catalog of American Cars 1946-1975".  Cool book with all kinds 
of stats (production numbers, options, etc) for everything from AMCs to 
Kaisers.  Anyway, I looked up Olds and found the 1960 section.  They had 
a picture of a pace car sitting in front of the Indy gate with 4 or 5 
business looking men sitting in it.  On the door it said "Official Pace 
Car" along with some smaller letters I couldn't read.  

	What I was going to ask (but I guess you sort of already answered 
it) was if this thing was for real.  I guess I don't remember ever 
hearing about the 60 pacing at Indy.  Pretty cool anyway.  (Guess I 
have something to brag to my friends about now!)    Anybody else ever see 
a 60 pace car?  

	Also found some stats in the book that were kind of cool-- only 3.5% 
of '60 Oldsmobiles came with dual exhaust (and I sit here wondering why 
manifolds are so hard to find!)  18% came with AC (mine isn't one of 
them) and 19% came with power seats (mine did!).  

	Anyway, if you get a chance, check out the book.  Lots of good stuff!

			Scott
		1960 Oldsmobile Rocket 98

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From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@frame.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:37:11 -0300
Subject: Re: What is going on 

>Are you referring to the "weekend plans" discussion?  Keep in mind that 
>all of those were devoted solely to time spent with Oldsmobiles.  
>Personally, I enjoy reading about people's experiences at junkyards, in 
>garages, and the like -- I'm pretty sure a majority of "listies" would agree!

I have to second that. I like reading the blow-by-blow descriptions of
how something got done, especially things like the really bizarre surprises
you get trying to bring an old heap back to life, or painful descriptions
of how someone went under the hood to change the water pump and ended up
having to remove the engine, etc. (Ask me about _my_ water pump sometime.)
More stories, please!

But different strokes for different folks. Personally my eyes glaze over every
time another spreadsheet dump on cylinder volumes and shaved heads appears,
but that's important info for others, I know. And similarly, I know for
every twenty people I bore to tears with long instructions on how to test
a balky electrical accessory, there _might_ be _two_ people who print it out
and refer to it later. Win some, lose some.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@frame.com
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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From: Rocket Boy <clint@darklair.com>
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 22:48:26 -0300
Subject: Re: 1960 Rocket Pace Car...was Re: Here she is... Miss America

While it's a small picture, there is a shot of the 60 Olds pace car on my 
web site at http://www.access.digex.net/~clint/car/camaro.html.   Be 
warned though, this is a page dedicated to my former car...

CLint
Rocket Boy!             _|_ _\\____|_     '81 Cutlass Supreme
clint@darklair.com       |___//____|            by Oldsmobile

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:01:51 -0300
Subject: List Intro Document & FAQ Addition

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From: David Paulison <dpauliso@metrolink.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:54:20 -0300
Subject: Re: 66 Toro

At 03:15 PM 5/3/96 -0300, you wrote:
>

>He's asking 1200.  Its got 73,000 miles on it.  Purchased from the
>original owner.  
>
>What do you guys think?
>
>
Buy it, NOW!
- --
Dave Paulison             Melbourne, FL          69 Cutlass Supreme
dpauliso@metrolink.net

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From: David Paulison <dpauliso@metrolink.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:56:21 -0300
Subject: Re: 1960 Rocket Pace Car...was Re: Here she is... Miss America

At 02:02 PM 5/3/96 -0300, you wrote:
 18% came with AC (mine isn't one of 
>them) and 19% came with power seats (mine did!).  
>
>	
But what percentage came with AC _and_ power seats? ;)
- --
Dave Paulison             Melbourne, FL          69 Cutlass Supreme
dpauliso@metrolink.net

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From: David Paulison <dpauliso@metrolink.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:59:47 -0300
Subject: Re: What is going on

At 02:37 PM 5/3/96 -0300, you wrote:
 And similarly, I know for
>every twenty people I bore to tears with long instructions on how to test
>a balky electrical accessory, there _might_ be _two_ people who print it out
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
>and refer to it later. Win some, lose some.
>


Yes, and I'm one of them...
- --
Dave Paulison             Melbourne, FL          69 Cutlass Supreme
dpauliso@metrolink.net

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From: "Shawn M. Twomey" <stwom@ctp.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:13:42 -0300
Subject: Cruise control servo placement 

>2.  While I do have working cruise, it's apparently a bit different; servo
>must be located elsewhere (still not sure where, I thought it was this 
>thing mounted off the front top of the engine, but now I'm not sure; anyone?)

>>I think I saw an '86 that had the servo (the thing that connects to the
>>carb linkage, you mean, right?) on the left (driver's side) wheel well
>>forward of the washer fluid reservoir, with a looping Bowden cable that
>>curved around to the carb linkage. Not an aftermarket job; the wheel
>>well housing had molded pedestals for it to bolt on to.

On my '84 V6, the servo is behind the carb, sounds like what you described
there.  All the V8s I've seen have the servo up towards the front of the
engine bay, as described earlier.  Compared to the V6s, the placement in the
V8 looks like such a hack, with that weird brace holding it up-it really
looks out of place, like an afterthought.
__________________________________________________________________________
Shawn M. Twomey     |  "No!  Try NOT!  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
stwom@ctp.com       |  -Yoda
__________________________________________________________________________

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From: "Schroedinger's Clint" <clint@digex.net>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:13:54 -0300
Subject: Toro Ad...

I was flipping through one of my reference books (American Muscle Cars by
Jim Campisano) and came across this ad:


.........................................................................
{pic of some smug looking guy leaning on the driver's side}

TORONADO.
The all-car car for the all-man man.

The line of demarcation is drawn.   Men on one side.  Boys on the other.
Cars fall into place.  No question which side the Toronado takes.  Not
with that brawny, broad shouldered look.  And that responsive performance
from a 455-cubic-inch Rocket V8, biggest ever built.  And that masterful
ride and handling, thanks to the superior traction of FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE
and torsion-bar suspension.  Like we say, Toronado is all man-right down
to that man sized trunk.

The front-wheel-drive
youngmobile from Oldsmobile.
........................................................................


                          _________
Rocket Boy!             _|_ _\\____|_     '81 Cutlass Supreme
clint@darklair.com       |___//____|      (G-body with F-pieces)

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From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@frame.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:28:29 -0300
Subject: Re: Cruise control servo placement 

>On my '84 V6, the servo is behind the carb, sounds like what you described
>there.  All the V8s I've seen have the servo up towards the front of the
>engine bay, as described earlier.  Compared to the V6s, the placement in the
>V8 looks like such a hack, with that weird brace holding it up-it really
>looks out of place, like an afterthought.

I think I'd better follow up on this just so people don't think I'm making
this up as I go along... Waaaay back in '86 I spent five weeks in Minneapolis
at my then-employer's main office, and had a brand-spanking-new '86 Supreme
from National to drive. (Why on God's green earth they were renting cars in
Minneapolis in the wintertime without rear defoggers I don't know, but that's
another story.) (So is the one about the snowbank. :-) Poked around under the
hood on several occasions and I could swear that this car had its cruise
servo mounted on the front left wheel housing; maybe I'm wrong.

The '82 I owned for eight years starting shortly thereafter did not have
cruise, but _did_ have several unused mounting pedestals in that area. I
hate having cars with obvious unused things and filler plates to remind
you constantly of the optional equipment you were too cheap to buy.

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@frame.com
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@frame.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:30:23 -0300
Subject: Re: Toro Ad... 

>The line of demarcation is drawn.   Men on one side.  Boys on the other.
>Cars fall into place.  No question which side the Toronado takes.  Not
>with that brawny, broad shouldered look.  And that responsive performance
>from a 455-cubic-inch Rocket V8, biggest ever built.  And that masterful
>ride and handling, thanks to the superior traction of FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE
>and torsion-bar suspension.  Like we say, Toronado is all man-right down
>to that man sized trunk.

"That's enough spaghetti, dear; you're putting on weight."

"Nonsense, hon, that's just my Man Sized Trunk!"

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@frame.com
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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From: eda@dl.tc.faa.gov
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:54:51 -0300
Subject: Re: G-Body Tach 

Andy Green writes:

> Um, water inside the plastic?  :-)  Whenever I get this far with a dismantled
> dash, I unscrew the faceplate and clean it up. It removes by just unscrewingthe s
> ilver-headed screws around the perimeter; if you have a trip odometer

This is what I did.  When I said the spots were inside the plastic, I mean *inside* the plastic, as in not on the fromt of the plastic, not on the back of the plastic, but somewhere in between.  And hence I am confused. :-)  (rubs front of plastic; turns over, rubs back of plastic; scratches head; repeats)

Ed Atlee			'77 Cutlass Supreme
eda@dl.tc.faa.gov		'84 Hurst/Olds
	R O C K E T	P O W E R E D ! !

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From: Doug McClanahan <mcclan@wsdot.wa.gov>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:05:01 -0300
Subject: Allllrightyyyy then...

Mr. speaker, I move that a quorum count be made and if sufficient members=
=20
are present, I suggest that we vote to move along to the next topic and=20
assume that we are all put on notice that we might want to tie items=20
posted to the list a little more closely to Olds info and that it is OK=20
to deviate from Olds stuff once in a while.......

or

We could all just assume that all is well in cooolssville and we can get=20
on with things by letting the gas thing and the what=92s going on thing=20
drop.  Nobody reference them any more ok.  Cool.

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From: proietto@dow.on.doe.ca (Proietto, F.)
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 02:27:05 -0300
Subject: Re: Allllrightyyyy then...

I second the motion and just in case lets assume it as such.

P.S.  gas went up to 60.9 today, bummer!!!!!!!






>Mr. speaker, I move that a quorum count be made and if sufficient members 
>are present, I suggest that we vote to move along to the next topic and 
>assume that we are all put on notice that we might want to tie items 
>posted to the list a little more closely to Olds info and that it is OK 
>to deviate from Olds stuff once in a while.......
>
>or
>
>We could all just assume that all is well in cooolssville and we can get 
>on with things by letting the gas thing and the what's going on thing 
>drop.  Nobody reference them any more ok.  Cool.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Regards
Fernando Proietto

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From: lawrencr@kostabi.gdls.com (Robert Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:46:28 -0300
Subject: Re: Cruise control servo placement

> From oldsmobile-owner@ccn.cs.dal.ca Fri May  3 15:41 EDT 1996
> X-Sender: acg@dlogics.dlogics.com

> another story.) (So is the one about the snowbank. :-) Poked around under the
> hood on several occasions and I could swear that this car had its cruise
> servo mounted on the front left wheel housing; maybe I'm wrong.

The three large Olds, I've owned have had (non-working) cruise control.
The unit (servo?) was always on the front left wheel housing.   It
had a speedometer cable from it to the tranmission, and from it to
the speedometer.  It had an electrical connection and two vacuum lines.

- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert Lawrence   | 1970 Oldsmobile 98 Convertible               .^.
lawrencr@gdls.com |  _________,~--,___________\____________     /9|8\
(810) 825-8007    |  |                |~    |        ___   |    \}|{/
Sterling Hts., MI |  =------(-o-)-------------------( o )--=      v

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From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@frame.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:54:42 -0300
Subject: Manufacturing Goofs (Was Re: G-Body Tach) 

>This is what I did.  When I said the spots were inside the plastic, I mean
>*inside* the plastic, as in not on the fromt of the plastic, not on the back
> of the plastic, but somewhere in between.  And hence I am confused. :-)  
>(rubs front of plastic; turns over, rubs back of plastic; scratches head;
>repeats)

Okay, new topic: what's the dumbest thing you've ever found which most 
likely was done by/at the factory? Second choice: The dumbest thing done
by/at the dealer?

When I first test-drive my '82 before I bought it, it is nighttime. I flip
on the highbeams and am immediately blinded by the high beam indicator bulb
in the dash, which has no blue lens over it, just a hole in the speedometer
dial. Forget to mention this prior to sale, so dealer doesn't fix it. No
problem, will disassemble dash myself and stick blue lens in the hole. Pop
speedometer out and look behind it. Found the piece of blue plastic which
was supposed to cover the hole over the bulb, neatly and professionally
installed on the back of the speedo dial by someone who apparently couldn't
hit the broad side of a barn, a full two inches to the left of the hole, 
with the foam soundproofing gasket nicely glued over the top of it. Must
have been a Friday at the factory.  :-)

Andrew C. Green            (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc.
441 W. Huron               Internet: acg@frame.com
Chicago, IL  60610-3498    FAX: (312) 266-4473

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From: StPat1@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 18:51:58 -0300
Subject: Re: Here she is... Miss America 

Howdy, I read the message you posted by stp8n@virginia.edu about her ragtop
and was intrigued about something - I'm the proud (if occasionally troubled)
owner of a 69 Cutlass S convertible, all orginal...except for the stereo.
 I'm the 3rd owner, and the guy who had the car before me decided to plug in
a cheap in-dash tape deck and run wires to the back seat, where he put two
cheap outdoor speakers in the corners.  

I love music, too, and I'm trying to figure out what to do.  I have the
original radio (uninstalled, naturally) and would like to re-install it and
put a better stereo/speakers in elsewhere.  There's lots of room in the glove
compartment for the stereo, but I just can't figure out what to do with the
speakers.  There's still an original in-dash speaker (don't know if it works)
which could be replaced, but the trouble, really, is with the rear speakers -
where else could they be installed?  Any advice?

Many thanks!

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From: Bob0Barry@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:59:30 -0300
Subject: Re: Joy of Fender,etc. removal...(Lots of rambling) 

In a message dated 96-05-03 03:11:39 EDT, you write:

>>	I only managed to munch one of the ends of the bolts pounding them 
>>out (DOH!!) and even then it wasn't too bad (15 minutes with a triangular 
>>file carved threads deep enough to thread the nut again).  And a good 
>>thing too, since I have never even seen such a bolt before, and if I had 
>>to replace the thing, I would have to use something smaller. 
>
>Next time you have to beat on something like this, spin the nut back on
>first and hammer on that. Spreads the load out a bit so you don't mushroom
>it and you can hit it harder.

Yeah, but I think I've found an even better way when I tried to reinstall the
upper A-arm mounting bolts, which have splined shanks near the head. I pulled
out my mega C-clamp (you know, the one you use to compress the disc brake
calipers), and used that as an impromptu press, to get such bolts both in
*and* out of their holes. Of course, don't try this with a pressed-steel or
3/$1.99 bargain C-clamp.

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From: Bob0Barry@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:59:08 -0300
Subject: Re: Repeated Postings! 

In a message dated 96-05-03 02:48:55 EDT, you write:

>I have no idea why 3-10 day old messages are being re-posted after the
intial
>sending. They are not even resident as a file anymore in my computer, as I
>delete (or save to disket) all outgoing mail weekly to save disk space and
>reduce file clutter.

You'll notice that *all* us AOL's are getting our messages reposted, hours or
days later. The price you pay for ... Hey, why *am* I on AOL anyway??? (let's
not start *that* thread!)

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From: Bob0Barry@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:59:40 -0300
Subject: Re: What happened to all the wagons? 

In a message dated 96-05-03 07:06:02 EDT, you write:

>Did you know that the Vista had a longer wheelbase than the "standard"
>Cutlass wagon?   Rear doors from a Vista are too large (long) to fit a
>standard wagon.

Hmmm, I noticed when I stored my '72 VC's in the basement that they were
particularly *huge*! OK, now I know what to advertise.

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From: jblair@nhr.com (John T. Blair) 
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:11:50 -0300
Subject: [none]

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From: adal@earthlink.net (J.A. Limon)
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 01:27:28 -0300
Subject: parts needed 

I'm looking for the right rear brake light lens and a vertical
weatherstrip, between passenger & driver, for a 1970 Delta 88 Custom. Any
leads?

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From: Scott Robert Kietzmann <srobert@csd.uwm.edu>
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:39:20 -0300
Subject: Re: parts needed

My brother has one a 1970 parts car, I will take a look and get back to you!
By the way, I am selling my 1968 Cutlass S.  I want $800.00 for it.  It 
is a great car It has a 350 4 barrel, 2 speed tranny, and runs STRONG AND 
FAST!  Pass it on.....  I live in Milwaukee.  I want to have it sold by 
June. Any more quesitions.  Just reply directly to me at 
srobert@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu


Thanks, 

Scott

On Sat, 4 May 1996, J.A. Limon wrote:

> I'm looking for the right rear brake light lens and a vertical
> weatherstrip, between passenger & driver, for a 1970 Delta 88 Custom. Any
> leads?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From: SG Hartfelder <stanh@compusmart.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:01:32 -0300
Subject: 1938 Olds - Street Rod 

I recently sent some information along with three (3) scanned pictures of my
'38 Olds - Street Rod to 'Bryceman' and he's now added them to his home
page.  He did a great job and if you like to go there and take a peek at it,
I would appreciate your comments.

The Bryceman's page can be found at:  http://www.cjnetworks.com/olds


____________________________________________________
S.G. Hartfelder         '38 Oldsmobile Street Rod
Edmonton, AB  CANADA    '76 Camaro
stanh@compusmart.ab.ca

"You can get a great reputation for wisdom just by
telling people what they already know"
____________________________________________________

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From: Mark Wolfe <markw@wwa.com>
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:29:19 -0300
Subject: Re: 1938 Olds - Street Rod

> The Bryceman's page can be found at:  http://www.cjnetworks.com/olds


YIKES!  He's got that Chebby on the cover again...

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From: "Bruce D. Brumm" <bdbrumm@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:53:38 -0300
Subject: Re: Cruise control servo placement

Andrew C. Green wrote:

> I think I'd better follow up on this just so people don't think I'm making
> this up as I go along... Waaaay back in '86 I spent five weeks in Minneapolis
> at my then-employer's main office, and had a brand-spanking-new '86 Supreme
> from National to drive. (Why on God's green earth they were renting cars in
> Minneapolis in the wintertime without rear defoggers I don't know, but that's
> another story.) (So is the one about the snowbank. :-) Poked around under the
> hood on several occasions and I could swear that this car had its cruise
> servo mounted on the front left wheel housing; maybe I'm wrong.

One upon a time, the service parts manager at my hometown Ch*vy/Olds. dealership
(in Calumet, MI) swore up and down that the '84 Cutlass Supreme had its servo
on the front left wheel housing.  He didn't believe me until I showed him. :)
I imagine that there ARE '84's around with servos on their left fender well since
the '83's had them (early production, etc.).  

I'll bet that your new '86 had cruise installed AT THE DEALERSHIP as an add-on
option.  Not unheard of for the dealer to order a low-end (i.e. no rear defrost)
model and add a few options in his shop and jack the price up.  

I'm REALLY going to pay attention from now on about this option.  Things like
this intrigue me (production anomolies, etc.).  Further updates as events
warrant.

- -- 
Bruce D. Brumm (bdbrumm@ix.netcom.com)
Network & Systems Administrator
LDM Technologies, Inc.
Troy, MI

'84 Cutlass Supreme 307-Y
'86 Cutlass Salon 307-Y

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