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oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, February 12 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1097



455 0lds  engine wanted
My web site is up
beaters
itckets
Ah, Leeee-sah!
Mondello's Price on New Edelbrock Aluminum Heads
69 conv pcs car st whl
Re: Shake, rattle, and slap. (Kinda long but please help)
rear links
Re: My web site is up
CALIF PARTS
Re: wow, 2 olds days at norwalk?
82 to 84 OLDS 98 4 Door Wanted
Re: Ah, Leeee-sah!
65 88 pcs car?
Daul Gate
Re: spring rates
Re: TH400 in G-body?
UNBOUNCE: '75 Delta Dash Needed
UNBOUNCE: 455 Wanted
Bodies
Re: Calendar
Re: Calendar
Re: Calendar
Wanted: Vista Cruiser
Re: My web site is up
Re: Calendar
Re: Bodies
Re: My web site is up
Re: COPS and racing
Re: rally pac intrument panel
Screen saver? (was: Calendars)
Desktop  (was Re: Screen saver? (was: Calendars))
Re: 330 project
Speedo Adapter
[none]
[none]
Re: Power
Re: shocks
Re: Calendar
F/S: 1970 Cutlass SX $4k, MD
Re: Calendar
Re: Screen saver? (was: Calendars)
Re: TH400 in G-body?
Differential rebuild kits!!!
Re: 1965 Delta 88
Re: Screen saver? (was: Calendars)
Re: TH400 in G-body?
Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question
REPOST: good plug wires?
Re: Boxed lower arms for '65
Re: Daul Gate
Re: Daul Gate
Popular Mechanics Cutlass
Re: Southern Gold
Re: Fwd: Q-4 repair update
Re: Calendar (fwd)
More on PM Cutlass
Re: 350 diesel
'65 442 clutch

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:17:17 -0700
From: "Jim Schroeder" <jschroeder@treknet.net>
Subject: 455 0lds  engine wanted

WANTED:   OLDSMOBILE 455 COMPLETE MARINE  ENGINE,OR 455

OLDS BUILT FOR  BLOWER APPLICATION.CONTACT  JIM SCHROEDER
jschroeder@treknet.net

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 98 20:48:35 PST
From: "chris smetana" <chris@abcs.com>
Subject: My web site is up

Hi all,
Well, in my limited free time I was able to FINALLY publish my web page.  It is
still in the construction process, but a good portion of the info is about my
W-31, parts for sale and my other passion baseball.  But you can also read 
about
my other rides.  Unfortunately, I don't have any way to scan pictures as I
REALLY need this done, especially pics of my W-31.  So I guess one question is,
do I have any volunteers that could do this for me if I send them pictures and
an SASE?  Just thought I'd ask :)

I'm also making changes to the site just about daily or as time permits while
I'm at work, so hopefully some of the missing pieces will slowly get filled in.

Also, with me being busy and having very little free time to stay up with the
list goings on, I have decided to switch to digest mode.  So if you don't hear
from me for a while, kinda like what's been going on now, you now know why.

Check it out and let me know.
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
chris@abcs.com



1969 Cutlass W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:20:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: beaters

On a related note, a "best of the beaters" contest might be funny.
Devote one month of the calendar to list member beaters, and have a web
page where people could chose the "best" beaters to go in the calendar.
To qualify, the vehicles would have to be able to start and move under
their own power.  Other than that the more pathetic and ugly the better.
:) (Action shots of burnouts, spin outs, trees wilting when the engine
runs, etc. would be a big plus.)
================
Oooooh, oooh, yeah! I have the new '70 98 to enter! And that '66 post coupe on
www.442.com, that *could* still run. Sorta. But the '70 is turnkey ready.

- --
Chris Witty :=: cross-dressing Olympic speed skater :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:24:03 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: itckets

tickets, whatever?

heh, well, i do tend to leave kinda quick every now and then, but i meant i
dont constantly do 80mph down the interstate or speed everywhere i go.  im
just bummed out over paying a possible $150 for some stupid $.30 bulb that i
didnt even get a warning for.   oh well..
==============
Isn't that sort of thing a "fixit" ticket- fix it & get ticky dismissed?

- --
Chris Witty :=: cross-dressing Olympic speed skater :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:26:02 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Ah, Leeee-sah!

Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:57:06 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Delta Adoption
Chris Chris - don't tempt me like that!!

Subject: Re: 69 conv. antenna pcs, misc stuffs

Hey Witty:

Trade ya the finders fee on the rear end in the Aquarium for that tilt/tele
wheel from the D-88.

Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA
=================
Well..... how would you prefer me to tempt you, then, my dear?

Trade me my finder's fee... for my steering column... aaaargh, my head's
hurting now! When do I have to pay you for the deal? Can it wait?

- --
Chris Witty :=: cross-dressing Olympic speed skater :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:48:56 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Mondello's Price on New Edelbrock Aluminum Heads

I just got a reply to my request to Mondello for prices on the Edelbrock
Aluminum heads. Here's what he wrote:

>New part number 6051. Stk - 14.99, street strip - 1999.00,
>bracket - 2499.00, allout comp - 2999.00
>Thank you,
>Joe Mondello

OK, Joe is being as lucid as usual here... This is what I originally asked:

>> From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
>> To: mondello@tcsn.net
>> Subject: Any price yet on the new Edelbrock heads?
>> Date: Friday, February 06, 1998 8:04 AM
>>
>> Dear Mr. Mondello,
>>
>> I was wondering whether you have set a price yet for the fully-assembled
>> ª6052 aluminum Olds heads from Edelbrock, in the various configurations
>> from stock to fully ported? Thanks in advance.

I was asking for the price for the fully-assembled heads, which are listed
on his web-page as part ª 6052; part ª6051 is the pair of bare heads, so I
don't know if that "$14.99" [sic: should read $1499.00, I imagine] is for
the bare heads or fully-assembled heads (thanks, Joe! ;). He also doesn't
mention anything about availability yet; I've got to resend my request, I
suppose... :(
__________________________________________________________
Bob Barry       MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu

1969 Toronado 455/TH425
     See it at http://www.execpc.com/~gkalkhof/drbob69.htm
1970 Cutlass Supreme SX 455/TH400
1978 Electra Limited 409/TH400

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:28:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 69 conv pcs car st whl

> Runs & drives. Crusty. Even has that rare "Deluxe" steering wheel!
Ok, this reference to the steering wheel is a joke, right?
Chris Sparks
=============
No, it's that vinyl pebbly grain thing that was bandied about here recently.
Blue, has black schmutz on it. All there, nice emblem. Ask that one guy, he saw
the photos. Trouble is everyone wants a perfect one for cheap. Naturally, as a
seller, I prefer the price not be so cheap.
- --
Chris Witty :=: cross-dressing Olympic speed skater :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:21:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Shake, rattle, and slap. (Kinda long but please help)

>All I said was to rebuild it new everything they did all the work and put in
>the cam and parts they thought best????????????

If they ordered the parts, then they are responsible for them fitting.
Definitely contact them.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:30:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: rear links

       The reason they were boxed is because with enough torque you can
twist them up if they are the standard open channel.

     Glenn Connors      gpc442@buffnet.net
- ------------------------------
In the interest of clarity...
Those links are not designed to withstand, because they are not loaded with
significant amounts of.... tork. They are pretty much tension/ compression
forces, until you add that stabilizer, which adds some bending moments, but,
virtually no torque.

- --
Chris Witty :=: cross-dressing Olympic speed skater :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:36:11 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: My web site is up

chris smetana wrote:
>
> Check it out and let me know.
> http://www.abcs.com/chris/
>
> Chris Smetana
> Terre Haute, IN
> chris@abcs.com

Cool, site, Chris!  Any pics to go with those beautiful-sounding Oldses?  You
can forget the Ponts and the Ferd pics, BTW!  8-)

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:35:09 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: CALIF PARTS

My parts buddy & I have some parts available that might be of interest:

'67 Cutlass:  Tail lights assembly - very nice.  Trunk edge molding/trim -
very good cond.  Headlamp mounting bracket/buckets.  Front grille piece(s)
incl. emblem.  Front bumper - straight, needs rechrome.

SSII rims, includes trim rings only - no caps.  $100 for all 4.

ACCESS TO:  1968-69 Toronados.  Includes 455 in '69.   Console car, console
gone.  1970 Cutlass.

E-mail me privately regarding these.  We are MOTIVATED SELLERS - we both
are looking to find these parts homes as quickly as possible.  We don't
have the room to keep them and also need the dough for our own cars.

The ACCESS cars are in yards and won't be there forever.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:40:48 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: wow, 2 olds days at norwalk?

In a message dated 98-02-11 18:51:28 EST, you write:

<< Wonder if Joe's gonna have his still.. >>
Understanding I have is not this year, at Norwalk anyways. Just got the 98
calendar of events for Norwalk and Miller's race is posted but no go on Joe.
Also heard that
Joe was going to move his to Bristol ,TN in 1999.

There is the Hot Rod /NMCA event at Norwalk May 2-3 of which they are still
having the Street tire Bracket class. I won this class in 96 and will
definately be there along with at least 6 other fellow Detroit Street Rocket
members as participants.

Hope to see and meet a few other list members there also.

Rgds,
Rob Thomas
69 442

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:50:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Stanish <stanishj@svpal.org>
Subject: 82 to 84 OLDS 98 4 Door Wanted

I am looking for a 82 to 84 OLDS 98 4 Door with gas V8(307) in very lo
mi(<50K) very good condition in California especially the SF BAy Area.
NO DELTAS,2 DOORS or DEISELS!! Leads appreicated!!! This is picky but I
am in no hurry, try and keep this one in the back of your head when
you're about.

Thanks to all the folks on the OLDS net for past help!

Jeff Stanish

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:04:16 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Ah, Leeee-sah!

Seriously - if the codes match I'd be interested in your tilt/tele (no not
the mental one you have :0.....)


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:07:57 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 65 88 pcs car?

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:10:13 -0600
From: Tom Williams <tjwilli@megavision.com>
Subject: 1965 Delta 88

Hi All,
    I looked at a 1965 Delta 88 that has been owned by the same
gentleman since new. I have a few questions, which motors did these come
with? I think this one has the 425 2barrel, but I am not sure. The
motoer is red in color all original and has the original red air
cleaner, with a round topper that reads Ultra high compression,
Oldsmobile Rocket. I am curious because I read a lot of post that seem
to favor the 425 over the 455, and out of curiosity just wondering if
this is the year of 425 a person should consider buying.
    The car is in very nice shape, very little rust, loaded with options
ect..., also what all parts are in high demand on these cars.
I do know it does have the original clock, ac compressor, bumpers,
hubcaps, and very nice original interior.
    The family is looking to get $1700.00 for the car but I do think it
could be purchased for a little less money.
====================
Very very common for the UHC 425 to be a 2-barrel. 'Twas the std motor in the
big car I think. Red, good, orig. AC, good, '65, ah, OK, has the dreaded 45'
cam bank angle, and the funky screw-in rocker studs- a Good Thing? I dunno,
invite comments. "A" heads, right?

As for in demand, and pretty parts, I guess. I have guys looking for bumpers,
mine are very rusty. Both needed glove box locks. Courtesy lite covers, dash
pad, options such as the clock... $1700 seems like a lot for a parts car. Even
for a driver of that size/ vintage.


- --
Chris Witty :=: cross-dressing Olympic speed skater :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:33:00 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Daul Gate

I know I have read about people taking thier Daulgates to Hurst to be
rebuilt, I was wondering if anyone would happen to have the number to call
or other information on them do this?

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
1970 442 Convertible
1970 Cutlass W- 31 4 gear
1970 Rallye 350
1970 Cutlass Convertible ( 13.4 et)

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:32:01 -0700
From: Dan Lacey <lacey@dsea.com>
Subject: Re: spring rates

The technical support number for MOOG is 1-800-325-8886. They should be
able to help you!

>I would like to get a 1 to 1.5 inch shorter look
>with a possibly 20% stiffer ride for handling ( I realize that this may not
>be possible if I cut stock springs).
>================
>Curiously enough, the equation for spring rate includes the number of active
>coils. Fewer coils = stiffer spring. So, by removing 1.5" worth of coils
>you no
>only lower the car that much, but you stiffen the spring by a percentage = to
>the % of active coils that you removed.
>
>"Active" means not touching other coils usually. That's why those insertable
>coil spring spacers work so well. They need not be jacked out to max distance
>to be effective- just to touch the next coil and not fall out when stretch is
>maxed.
>--
>Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu


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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:52:43 PST
From: "Dick Henderson" <dickhenderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TH400 in G-body?

>Does anyone know how well a TH400 fits in a G-body?  I am looking
>into buying one and would like to know if any special brackets or
>anything will be needed.  This is going to replace a TH200-C, so I
>don't know if that changes anything.  Also will I need a
>new driveshaft (length?).  I will probably end up getting a new rear
>end with a higher gear ratio too, hopefully off of a GN or something
>like that.
>
>Joe
>82 CSC (with planned 403/TH400 upgrade)

From what i've read, the 400 has no problem whatsoever in fitting...
Check the faq, I think that it mentions it...
I'll get back to you later...

Richard
82 CSC

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:20:59 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '75 Delta Dash Needed

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: oldsmobile parts

can anyone assist me in obtaining a dash for my 1975 olds delta 88 conv.
I would be greatly appreciative.
Bruce Peters

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:22:25 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 455 Wanted

Not on the list; reply directly to him.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:"Jim Schroeder" <jschroeder@treknet.net>
Subject: 455 0lds  engine wanted

WANTED:   OLDSMOBILE 455 COMPLETE MARINE  ENGINE,OR 455

OLDS BUILT FOR  BLOWER APPLICATION.CONTACT  JIM SCHROEDER
jschroeder@treknet.net

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:57:52 +0000
From: ejhufnagel@juno.com (Edward J. Hufnagel)
Subject: Bodies

>>So, o.k., I'm still looking for confirmation on whether A-body and B
>&C

            Please excuse my ignorance but whats up with all the A's,
B's, and C's?  How do you tell what is what?  Does my '66 Delta fit into
the scheme of alphabetized vehicles?

TIA,
      E.J.

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:40:45 -0500
From: Gerald Hughes <ghughes@hughesconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: Calendar

I would like to be responsible for this project, and I think that we
should make multiple calendars based on era.  'Cause who would't want to
have a calendar in the era of their car.  If I own a 1979 H/O.  I don't
necessarily want to see a bunch of 64's and 73's or anything like that.

I propose we make a calendar per era and then people can choose the one
they want.  If you like two.  Then take two!  You could hang one at work
and dream about driving your Olds, and then hang one in the garage so
you can curse at it when she's in for work.  Hehe.

Does this sound like a viable solution?  How do you all feel?

Gerald Hughes

Greg Pruett wrote:
>
> > > ><< Re: Calender >>
> > > >I vote yes    Everett Horton
> > > >                  1961 Starfire Conv
> > >
> > > I vote yes also. i don't think it's a matter of getting 12 photos,
> > > it's more like, which of the 500+ members' cars won't be on the
> > > calendar.
> > > How do we decide?
>
> All these list members means we have enough material for years of
> calendars. Since this would be something more decorative than
> functional,it could be the size of a poster and no one would complain.
> We could have a collage of cars each month, and the car pictures could
> still be a decent size, say 3x5 or 5X7.  We could probably work in 30
> cars or so that way.
>
> I guess the best way to decide who's in the calendar is to have thoes
> who want to participate enter their names at a website and chose 30
> people at random (somehow) from the contestants to submit pictures.  If
> we had any type of online contest then we'd be stuck with everyone
> voting for their own car. :)  The logistics would be a nightmare too; a
> gallery of 300-500 pictures to browse and vote on?  Sheesh!
>
> If all the cars were picked randomly from one list, we'd end up with a
> calendar full of A and G bodies.  Perhaps to keep an even balance of
> years/models we could have people enter their cars under categories.
> For instance: A-body, G-body, big car 60-70, big car 70-80, toronado,
> pre-1960, etc. and pick X number of cars from each category.
>
> On a related note, a "best of the beaters" contest might be funny.
> Devote one month of the calendar to list member beaters, and have a web
> page where people could chose the "best" beaters to go in the calendar.
> To qualify, the vehicles would have to be able to start and move under
> their own power.  Other than that the more pathetic and ugly the better.
> :) (Action shots of burnouts, spin outs, trees wilting when the engine
> runs, etc. would be a big plus.)
>
> Either way, a calender is a great idea.
>
> Greg Pruett
> 72 Vista Cruiser
> 67 Cutlass Supreme
> 80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:10 EST
From: DKlauber@aol.com
Subject: Re: Calendar

Gerald...you da man!

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 04:09:37 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Calendar

Gerald Hughes wrote:
>
> I would like to be responsible for this project, and I think that we

John Gill is currently looking into the cost.  Why don't you check with
him (jgill@idmi.com).

> I propose we make a calendar per era and then people can choose the
> one they want.  If you like two.  Then take two!  You could hang one
> at work and dream about driving your Olds, and then hang one in the
> garage so you can curse at it when she's in for work.  Hehe.
>
> Does this sound like a viable solution?  How do you all feel?

I think we could do whatever combinations are available.  If we have
the pics we want at our disposal, then the possibilites abound.

Chris Sparks

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:56:20 -0500
From: Joseph Gambaccini <jgambaccini@ci.richmond.va.us>
Subject: Wanted: Vista Cruiser

a friend of mine is looking for a Vista Cruiser: early '60's up to and
including 1972 in very good shape.  one important item for him: no
rust!

he already owns a '72 v-cruiser, but doesn't want to spend $4k or more
on "replacing" existing rust (bubbling in rear wheel wells and front
fenders, etc.), paint job and to have the engine rebuilt (240,000
miles).

can anybody help this Vista Cruiser fanatic???

Joe Gambo - '72 442/455/400/3.23

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:29:13 -0500
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: My web site is up

<I don't have any way to scan pictures as I REALLY need this done,
especially pics of my W-31.  So I guess one question is, do I have any
volunteers that could do this for me if I send them pictures and an SASE?>


Sure!  Be glad to do it for you.  I'm also scanning some shots for another
guy.  Before I send you back your original pictures, I can e-mail you the
.jpg files so you can see if the scans are to your liking.

Let me know,

================================================
RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.>      See them and 44 other Olds' at:
1995 Achieva S  >      http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell/

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:33:50 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Calendar

Gerald Hughes wrote:
>
> I would like to be responsible for this project, and I think that we
> should make multiple calendars based on era.  'Cause who would't want to
> have a calendar in the era of their car.  If I own a 1979 H/O.  I don't
> necessarily want to see a bunch of 64's and 73's or anything like that.
>
>         I propose we make a calendar per era and then people can choose the
one > they want.  If you like two.  Then take two!  You could hang one at work 
>
and dream about driving your Olds, and then hang one in the garage so > you can
curse at it when she's in for work.  Hehe. > >         Does this sound like a
viable solution?  How do you all feel?

Sounds good to me.  Many times have I done both over the years.  Right
now I would just like to get my (non)rolling stock moving again.  It
seems, however, I am always getting a car fixed for somebody else (wife,
no. 1 daughter, no. 2 daughter) and not one of my older projects.  On
the upside, it appears I may have found a guy to do body work at
reasonable prices again that actually has time to do them.  If so, all
it takes now is money (NO BIG DEAL, yeah right) and the time to get them
to him after finding a few dozen parts.  Gonna be an interesting year.
I have seen a few calendars with 60s-70s cars on them.  Really nice
look.  I'm for this project if the cost is reasonable and timely.

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:22:38 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Bodies

Edward J. Hufnagel wrote:
>
>             Please excuse my ignorance but whats up with all the A's,
> B's, and C's?  How do you tell what is what?  Does my '66 Delta fit into
> the scheme of alphabetized vehicles?
>
> TIA,
>       E.J.

E.J. - not sure about your '66 Delta, but here goes:

A-Bodies: 64-77 Cutlass
B-Bodies: Eighty-Eight
C-Bodies: Ninety-Eight
E-Bodies: Toronado
G-Bodies: 78-88 Cutlass
N-Bodies: 85-91 Calais
X-Bodies: 82-present Ciera

Anyone have anymore?

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|__    ________|
|\ \  / __  __/Jason Adcock|
| \ \/ / / /CS Major, Virginia Tech|
|  \  / / /mailto:jadcock@vt.edu|
|   \/ /_/http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/|
||
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:19:16 +0000
From: "Rick" <Richardc@equitrac.com>
Subject: Re: My web site is up

Chris I dont know if you want to try this but when you take pictures
of your car with your camera when you take them to get developed have
them put them to disk as well. I know that around here what they do
is they put it to disk as PIC files then they give you a slide
program for viewing which will also allow you to convert them to
Jpg,Bmp etc etc.
1964 Olds 442 F-85
1987 Monte Carlo SS
Rick Copithorne <richardc@equitrac.com>

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:57:38 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: COPS and racing

some of my best races have been against cops.

- ----------
> From: Knightvd@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: COPS and racing
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 2:43 PM
>
> Around 1985, I had just installed my 455 in a 71 88 coupe.  One night
shortly
> thereafter a friend and I decided to see how it would run against his 84
HO
> Z28.  We rode out to a deserted stretch of interstate and let 'em rip.
We
> were neck and neck to about 60, (even with my 2.73s to his 3.73s) then I
> pulled away strong.  In celebration of my victory I continued to cruise
at a
> pretty fast clip.    Next thing I know I see flashing red in the
distance.  He
> didn't even have to move his car!  I pulled in and he issued me a ticket
for
> 104mph.  (should have asked him for ET too).  My friend cruised right by.

>
> Turned out he kind of knew my father.  He talked to my father the next
week.
> Dad told him to throw the book at me!
>
> Cost me big bucks back then.  Also had to go in for the strangest
"interview"
> with someone at the county office.  Got a suspension for 30 days.
Thought I'd
> have to go to retake my license but never happened.
>
> Did some stupid things back then.

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:07:07 EST
From: DDMRACER@aol.com
Subject: Re: rally pac intrument panel

i need a rally pac instrument panel for a 72 442. if anyone out
there has one for sale, or knows someone who does, let me
know. thanks. ddmracer@aol.com

Duane Miller
72 442

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:23:06 -0800
From: Greg Pruett <grpruett@vt.edu>
Subject: Screen saver? (was: Calendars)

All this talk of calendars gave me an idea.  How 'bout we slap together
a screensaver that flashes pics of list member cars on the screen?  It
shouldn't be too tough to do, and it could be made for cheap.  The only
real cost would be disk space and the time involved for the individual
who puts it together.  Post it on 442.com as a .zip file and it's ready
to go.  Once again, there's probably too many cars availible to put them
all on one screensaver, but there could be differerent screensavers for
different years or a re-release of the screensaver every few months with
different cars picturerd.

I'm not saying that this should be done instead of a calendar, but it's
just another idea that's worth tossing around.  Personally I think it'd
be great to do them both.

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Crusier
67 Cutlass Surpeme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:58:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: Desktop  (was Re: Screen saver? (was: Calendars))

Or how about an Oldsmobile Desktop for Win 95!  I've got a buddy that's
been putting one together for a local band it's not as hard as you'd
think... and just think of the fun you could have with sound files :)


On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Greg Pruett wrote:

> All this talk of calendars gave me an idea.  How 'bout we slap together
> a screensaver that flashes pics of list member cars on the screen?  It
> shouldn't be too tough to do, and it could be made for cheap.  The only
> real cost would be disk space and the time involved for the individual
> who puts it together.  Post it on 442.com as a .zip file and it's ready
> to go.  Once again, there's probably too many cars availible to put them
> all on one screensaver, but there could be differerent screensavers for
> different years or a re-release of the screensaver every few months with
> different cars picturerd.
>
> I'm not saying that this should be done instead of a calendar, but it's
> just another idea that's worth tossing around.  Personally I think it'd
> be great to do them both.
>
> Greg Pruett
> 72 Vista Crusier
> 67 Cutlass Surpeme
> 80 Cutlass Calais
>


Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
Clayton Pierce,
zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu

"There's no replacement for displacement!"

1980 Rover 3500 SD1 (3.5l V8)  {Rover}
1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (5.7l V8) (RIP) {Lucille}
soon 1973 Cadillac Sedan De Ville (7.8l V8) {Lil' Kitty}

Editor/Secretary of the Rover Saloon Touring Club of America (RSTCA)

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:59:25 EST
From: TERMO1L@aol.com
Subject: Re: 330 project

Thanks for all the help with my problem guys.  It is not solved but I finally
had her towed in for the exhaust it will be done tonight.  I will try her
again then and if it still makes all those awful noises right down to the shop
with it.  Let them figure out what they did wrong.
Thanks
Mike

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:04:59 PST
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Speedo Adapter

Hey all,

 I need a .7333 speedometer adapter for my 1970 Cutlass with a turbo
350. The GM part number is 535614. This part is no longer availible from
GM and partsvoice does not list it. This is the piece that goes between
the trans and the speedo cable and would have come on cars with a 3.42
or 3.91 rear. I'm looking everywhere and so far have had no luck. If you
have one or have leads on one please let me know.

Thanks,

Brent Pinkstaff
70 Cutlass S


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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:16:29 -0500
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Power

When I got my parent's '71 Cutlass when I was in highschool (back in '91), I
saw the same thing.  I couldn't beleive I only had 260 HP.  I noticed that
the four barrel version had 280HP.  My first step was finding an original
four barrel manifold from a junkyard, getting a four barrel Q-jet, and
factory four barrel aircleaner.  That made a big difference.  Then in the
following order: headers/dual exaust, ignition, edelbrock intake,
cam/lifters/timing chain.  Then I bored it out, put TRW forged pistons,
Comp. Cams roller rockers, SS valves in the heads.  Now I'm getting ready
for Edelbrock's aluminum heads which will also work the on the 455 I'm
building.

If you have a two barrel, get a 4, then get an open element air cleaner
(14x3), and dual exaust.  that should put you closer to 300 HP.  I still
have my original cast iron four barrel manifold and the Q-jet carb that I
spent $500 on if you are interested.  Located near Washington DC.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Larry Martino <lmmsr@flash.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 10:01 PM
Subject: Power


>I just got my Year 1 catolog yesterday. The figures inside say that my
>71 350 has 260 hp. Another kid at my school has a 69 350, which shows
>about 310 hp. I can't be beat by 50 hp. What was it that added that much
>power? Would I need new pistons, new valve heads, new cam, what? Ineed
>more power.
>
>Larry Martino
>1971 Cutlass Conv.

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:47:38 -0500 (EST)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: Re: shocks

KYB's are good shocks but ride very harshly... I have told by Hotchkis
Performance that Tokico Shocks are a better ride

Al



On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Dan Lacey wrote:

> What other shocks did you use?
>
> I have my eyes on KYB. Supposed to be better than Monroe or Gabriel, but
> 1/2 the price of Koni...
>
> >Jim,
> >
> >If you want some real good (and affordable) racing-style shocks, contact PRO
> >Shocks (WWW.PROSHOCKS.COM). They build the only shock that kept our 71
Cutlass > >'S' in line on a track that makes you work hard on your suspension
setup to > >get around it well. They have shocks that fit in the stock location
with no > >modifications at all in racing or street rod types. I use their
shocks in my > >daily driver that we autocross as well, and love the way the 
car
handles. > > > >Best wishes in your search, > > > >Ken Snyder > >Kansas City,
Kansas > > >
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THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY  *       Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )        * > *
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3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.             * > *                           *
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************************************************************************* > >

Al Varhus
Columbus, Ohio
http://www.infinet.com/~avar



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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:27:50 -0500 (EST)
From: "Andrew A. Senko" <senko@reston.ans.net>
Subject: Re: Calendar

> Hi all,
>
> I want to thank all of those who wrote the enthusiastic responses to my
> initial posting.  I get tired of seeing those calendars with all of them
> non-olds cars!  I don't have the facilities for making a calendar,
> however, one is definitely needed.  I personally like to see one car
> per month, since this is what gave me the idea initially.  I'll contact
> a friend who has made calendars for his business to see what it takes
> to make a calendar.  I'll let everyone know as soon as I find out.
>
> Chris Sparks


The Ritz Camera stores around here (Northern VA, USA) will make a calendar
for you.  I've seen the advertising in the store but don't remember the
cost.  You provide the pictures, they make the calendar.  Sounds simple
enough.  I bet other photo processing chains provide the same service.

Just think, calendars of your car, calendars of your favorite cars from the
owners registry at www.442.com, calendars of Centennial coverage.  You could
really go overboard on this.

The key is to have 12 (or 13?) quality photos that you want to use for the
project.

- --
                    _
                    |\            Convertibles                     Drew Senko
     .__====-_._____|_\______         Rule!                   Vienna, VA, USA
     [   ___  |-     |  ___  \                           senko@reston.ans.net
     =\_//.\\_|______|_//.\\__)               http://members.aol.com/drewinva
_________\_/____________\_/__________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 98 11:51:43 -0500
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: F/S: 1970 Cutlass SX $4k, MD

Hope this can be used as a standard for "Car For Sale Leads":

1970 Cultass SX Coupe
Exterior: Green/Green vinyl top & OAI hood.
Interior: Green, Buckets, console, ect.
Engine: Rebuilt 455 w/ Edelbrock Perforemer & Holley 700. Has orig intake.
Engine has 2k miles
Chassis: rebuilt suspension, Dunlop G/T Qualifiers, solid body 120k on
chassis.
Wheels: SSII
Price: $4,000
Location: Rockville, MD
Contact: John Hall @ 301-424-4861

I have not seen the car, or will be able to so ALL the usual disclaimers
apply.  Later

 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson
| | | 1987 442 W-42
|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
| | | Oldsmobile Club of America ª18984
 ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Newest Chapter of OCA
(W) brad.nicholson@ssa.gov   (H) brad442@erols.com
OCC Web Page - http://www.erols.com/brad442/occ
OCA Web Page - http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca (Updated 2/1/98)

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:19:07 EST
From: CRuper1@aol.com
Subject: Re: Calendar

I'll agree with the "separate years on each calendar" thing, as we'll have too
may cars, etc., so this would narrow things down a bit.  Another idea would be
to see if you can put information onto the dates.

Try some of the following....

Upcoming dates for Olds homecoming...., or other major OCA events (no local
stuff, it could be (but maybe not) too much/too confusing)

Major dates in Olds history, such as when the first "Rocket" motor was
introduced, or the first Cutlass, or whatever.  Just hit the "Setting The
Pace" book, and pick out important dates from it (of various items throughout
it's history).

If some of the history things are too much, have an "information tidbit of the
month" area on each month.  There'd be one major "fact" for each month, or
better yet, do all of the above.

Any other ideas of things to include?  If we do this, we may as well make it
interesting.

Chris Ruper

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:31:12 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Screen saver? (was: Calendars)

Greg Pruett wrote:
>
> All this talk of calendars gave me an idea.  How 'bout we slap together
> a screensaver that flashes pics of list member cars on the screen?  It

Greg,

I REALLY like that idea.  Get to see neat iron every time your computer
gets bored.  Just wish I could stick some of mine on MY computer but
they have to be redone first.  Rats!

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:42:08 -0500 (EST)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: Re: TH400 in G-body?

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Joe Gerschutz wrote:

> Does anyone know how well a TH400 fits in a G-body?  I am looking
> into buying one and would like to know if any special brackets or
> anything will be needed.  This is going to replace a TH200-C, so I
> don't know if that changes anything.  Also will I need a
> new driveshaft (length?).  I will probably end up getting a new rear
> end with a higher gear ratio too, hopefully off of a GN or something
> like that.
>
> Joe
> 82 CSC (with planned 403/TH400 upgrade)
>
Joe, there is a well done article in the FAQ about this swap..,. the 400
will fit but you will need to adapt(move it back) the cross member and
shorten the drive shaft about one inch... additionally, if you intend to
run duals you will need to obtain an early 70's double hump cross
member.. these cross members are installed at a 90 degree angle to the
frame rather than the canted cross member you currently have...
therefore, it will also require shortening both ends about an inch and
 installing it on the lower frame rail.. with this setup the THM400 bolts
right in and you will have room to run a 3" true dual exhaust... measure
carefully... good luck


Al Varhus Columbus, Ohio
http://www.infinet.com/~avar/olds.html



------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:47:08 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Differential rebuild kits!!!

Something of interest - diff rebuild kits from Federal Mogul!

Picked up the April High Performance Pontiac for the 200-4R article. The 
install
will be covered in the June issue - I subscribed - better than chevy craft!
$16.95 for 6 issues (1 yr). Some good stuff in there, especially the ads. Check
it out. Can you tell I'm starved for something non-chevy and ford, and only
three "cool" words in the whole issue?

Anyways, this is a new product line. But I'd pick mine up now, rather than wait
a few years. The Product Review goes like this: "[Federal Mogul] has just
released a long list of differential rebuild kits for everthing from four wheel
drive vehicles to classic musclecars, dating back to 1957 models. The kit
contains bearings, inner and outer pinion bearings, pinion pilot bearings,
pinion seals, crush sleeves, pinion nut, gear marking compound, threadlocker,
RTV sealant and pinion and differential shims."

No ring gears, but definitely a step in the right direction! My local parts
store is checking for prices. I'll let you guys know, unless someone else comes
through.
- --
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
          Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
http://www.442.com   OR   http://www.en.com/users/thall
  http://nero.dyn.ml.org/~da_bomb/oldsfaq/oldsfaq.htm
Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
           ftp://arl.arizona.edu/lists/olds
http://nero.dyn.ml.org/~da_bomb/oldsfaq/zip/oldsfaq4.zip

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:43:36 -0700
From: Dan Lacey <lacey@dsea.com>
Subject: Re: 1965 Delta 88

I have a 1965 Delta 98 with the Ultra high compression. It has a 4 barrel.
You can just take off the air cleaner and look down the carb to be sure. I
don't know that there is much of a difference between Delta 425's. They
came in 3 different compression ratios, of which the "Ultra" was the
highest. Most horsepower too. I don't have my manuals at work, but if you
give me a VIN, I will tell you what I can about it. I would *guess* that
the highest compression engine would come with a 4 barrel.

I love my boat!

>Hi All,
>    I looked at a 1965 Delta 88 that has been owned by the same
>gentleman since new. I have a few questions, which motors did these come
>with? I think this one has the 425 2barrel, but I am not sure. The
>motoer is red in color all original and has the original red air
>cleaner, with a round topper that reads Ultra high compression,
>Oldsmobile Rocket. I am curious because I read a lot of post that seem
>to favor the 425 over the 455, and out of curiosity just wondering if
>this is the year of 425 a person should consider buying.
>    The car is in very nice shape, very little rust, loaded with options
>ect..., also what all parts are in high demand on these cars.
>I do know it does have the original clock, ac compressor, bumpers,
>hubcaps, and very nice original interior.
>    The family is looking to get $1700.00 for the car but I do think it
>could be purchased for a little less money.
>
>Thanks in Advance for all answers.
>
>Thanks,
>Tom Williams


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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:53:32 -0600
From: Eric & Rosi & Jonathon <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Screen saver? (was: Calendars)

With regards to screen savers , there exist many screens savers which
flash pictures YOU PUT in on the screen.

Perhaps if someone could set up a directory with the pics in, It could
happen, and maybe those without the required screen saver could
mysteriously find a copy.


Greg Pruett wrote:
>
> All this talk of calendars gave me an idea.  How 'bout we slap together
> a screensaver that flashes pics of list member cars on the screen?  It
> shouldn't be too tough to do, and it could be made for cheap.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:40:42 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: TH400 in G-body?

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Joe Gerschutz wrote:

> Does anyone know how well a TH400 fits in a G-body?  I am looking
> into buying one and would like to know if any special brackets or
> anything will be needed.  This is going to replace a TH200-C, so I
> don't know if that changes anything.  Also will I need a
> new driveshaft (length?).  I will probably end up getting a new rear
> end with a higher gear ratio too, hopefully off of a GN or something
> like that.
>
> Joe
> 82 CSC (with planned 403/TH400 upgrade)
>
I used to own a Cutlass (81) with a TH400.  I didn't put it in; the
previous owner did.  Henceforth, I know it works, just not how.  I do
believe that you would need a different length driveshaft.  That rans that
was in the car I owned was from a 74 Cadillac.  Perhaps because the donor
car had the correct length driveshaft as well, just a guess though.

As for gearsa, this car had 3.73's, and I thought it was a bit much for
driving around, but I do a lot of highway driving.  It was great on the
strip though.  80mph was about 5200, kinda limiting.  Remember Olds
engines like to spin slow and show off their torque.


Ray since the car is running perfect, the stereo stopped working Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:42:49 -0500
From: talcarol@erie.net (Chris Kugler)
Subject: Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question

I just found that out from the dealer.  Damn.  Can you believe it took a
week for the dealership to figure that out.
Chris K



>On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Chris Kugler wrote:
>
>> You can get one of those caps from an Oldsmobile dealership.  Thats what
>> the dealers would use to put duals on Cutlass's in the 70s without putting
>> on headers.
>
>Not any more... discontinued.  We went thru this here a year or so back.
>Someone here might have a stash of them somewhere.
>
>They were used on diesels into the 80s but they seem long gone now.
>
>Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:14:59 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: REPOST: good plug wires?

Resending this due to some lack of response. I have to make a decision
soon!!!

What are the best aftermarket plug wires to get? Accel 300+, MSD
Heli-Core, Moroso BlueMax, or Taylors, which ones are good?

Car: 320/350/th350/3.08 daily driver w/ HEI and MSD ignition.

Thanks!
- --
**********************************
Matt Cremean
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**********************************

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:12:41 -0600
From: "Paul L. Brillhart" <PBRILL1@uic.edu>
Subject: Re: Boxed lower arms for '65

W-MACHINES wrote:

> A warning for '65 (and I presume '64) owners of Olds with boxed lower
> arms.
>  Prior to '66 the boxed section (that is the plates on the bottom) did
> not
> extend all the way to the rear of the arm. It ended at the location of
> the
> back bolt that holds the sway bar.  The arm can crack starting at the
> bottom and work it's way up the inside & ouside of the arm, eventually
>
> breaking.  I caught my (past) '65 442 cracked half way up.
> Fully boxed arms '66 & up won't do this.
> Anyone else with '64-'65s have these "short" boxed arms?
> BTW, I still have the cracked arms.
>

I know this was posted some time ago, but I'm not the most timely of
souls.  My '65 also has the "partial" boxed arms and my '67 had fully
boxed.  I have not raced the crap out of it yet, so the arms are fine.
When I put in polygraphite bushings, I'll swap the arms for a set of
'66's I've got stored away.

Paul Brillhart
'65 442 4-spd.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:38:40 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: Daul Gate

At 12:33 AM 2/12/98 -0500, you wrote:

>I know I have read about people taking thier Daulgates to Hurst to be

>rebuilt, I was wondering if anyone would happen to have the number to call

>or other information on them do this?

>

>Robert Schinkel

>docbob@caninet.com

>1970 442 Convertible

>1970 Cutlass W- 31 4 gear

>1970 Rallye 350

>1970 Cutlass Convertible ( 13.4 et)

>


Hurst's number (mr. Gasket) is 216-398-8300. They weren't very helpful to me in
my search for some lighting rods, but maybe you'll have better luck...







T. H. Shires81 C/S/B Rckt 350

mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu


<bold>University of Oklahoma

</bold><italic><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>Aerospace
Engineering

</color><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Mechanical Engineering

</color></italic>

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:29:45 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Daul Gate

Robert Schinkel wrote:
>
> I know I have read about people taking thier Daulgates to Hurst to be
> rebuilt, I was wondering if anyone would happen to have the number to call
> or other information on them do this?

Bob, can't remember the number off hand, but the guy I talked to a long
time ago at Mr. Gasket says that any lifetime warranty is still covered,
if you had one, and they can rebuild for $55 + shipping both ways.  I
remember it was a Tennessee number I called.  I know this wasn't what
you were after, but it's the closest thing to a phone number I got.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:10:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Popular Mechanics Cutlass

I picked up the issue to take a look at the article on refreshing an '84
Cutlass. They said it wasn't really a restoration, but you sure could have
fooled me. I hate to think how much they have invested in the thing.
Let's see... a Ch*vy 454 they said they just happened to have laying
around, which they rebuilt and dressed up with a bunch of aftermarket
stuff; most of the suspension replaced with Hotchkis parts; stripped all
the chrome and emblems, stripped the old paint, redid it all in black, and
refreshed much of the trim; new tires on refinished SSIII 15x7 wheels;
custom-fabricated dual exhaust; TH400 with fabricated mounts and
driveshaft; and refinished engine bay with mods to the firewall and
wheelwells to let the motor fit. If that isn't a resto, I'm not sure what
is.

Sure looks sharp though, and they are taking bids on it for auction as
was mentioned previously. Minimum $5K; you know it'll go for more than
that. If only they had a 455 kicking around instead of that rat motor....

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:04:36 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Southern Gold

I remember the ads in Charleston.  It was a Carolinas/Georgia package
that was some gimmick for the local dealers.  For the life of me, I
don't know what was with it.  Not much though.  I think there were funky
looking emblems (plastic) that said something like "Southern Gold" or
"Southern Gold Edition".  I know they planted them on the trunk lid, but
I don't remember if they were anywhere else on or in the car.  Strange
looking, if I remember right.  Unfortunately, I haven't seen very many
cars of late with this package.  I saw a grunch of them back in '85
running around though.

Sorry, memory fades.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:31:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Shaun Miller <smille02@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Q-4 repair update

you are only to right!!  the job is a big one.  Ive had it done on my
calais and it takes hours.  Good thing my father has worked for oldsmobile
service for 19 years (and 5 at chevy).  Yea ill take any cutlass out of
the water, and i love the slight burble at idle and roughness upon pulling
away from the lights.  As ive said in the past, you must own a q4 to know
how great these machines are.  very good on maintenence too.  126000 miles
and runs like some of your european lexus', and beat quite a few too.

shaun
q4 prodigy

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 NotDads442@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 98-02-11 13:19:56 EST, MktgMan1 writes:
>
> << Hello fellow Q-4 owners/racers/drivers!
>
>  Have this interesting tip to share with you (please pass on to entire Q-4
> mailing list...I don't know how or who all is on it)
>
>  When changing or getting the water pump changed on a Q-4, pay particular
> attention to the timing chain cover. Most places simply pull one side of the
> cover back to remove/install the nearby water pump. A great mechanic friend
> told me of this after I had the dealer replace the leaking water pump at 45K.
> (Have an extended warranty...worth its weight in gold!) Anyways, when I told
> my friend about the pump, he asked me if the car started leaking oil. At the
> time, it hadn't. He said just wait. Sure enough, 2 weeks later, our Achieva,
> which had never dripped any fluids, was now dropping a 1/2 dollar size oil
> spot after every use. When I asked the dealer if that's what they do, he
> wouldn't confirm OR deny it. But he's had it now for two days to
> replace...yep, you guessed it, the timing chain cover gasket. For the 
DIY'ers,
> my friend, who is a professional, says this is a real bitch to do.
>
>  Just thought you'd all like the info. Oh, drove the Cutlass loaner car last
> night. Ugh, too quiet and refined. Give me a little engine shake and rumble
> any day. And the Q-4 would blow this thing off the road! >>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:51:05 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Calendar (fwd)

We're having mail problems here again today, and Scott has been among the
missing. He asked me to pass this on.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Scott.Wheeler@pinnacle-brands.com

I've been e-mailing Chris Sparks back & forth today and he said there is a
lot of discussion about actually putting a calendar together.

You wouldn't beleive the equipment I have at my disposal to do just such a
project, nice Agfa scanner, 9600/350 Mac w/600 megs of RAM, 21" Sony
Trinitron monitor & a Canon CLC 700 with a Fiery Rip.

Not to mention every peice of software you could possibly need to create
incredible graphics!

I'd really like to help out!

Can you forward on my interest to the list?

Scott Wheeler
68 442 Conv
Dallas

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:53:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: More on PM Cutlass

Forgot to mention... they just happened to pick up a rustfree trunklid
for $35 and a 3.55 Buick Grand National rear end... sure wish those kind
of junkyards were around here!  :)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:34:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Shaun Miller <smille02@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: Re: 350 diesel

larry

guess what, some one else had the same engine as you!!  i used to own an
81 custom cruiser with the 5.7 diesel.  what a beast!!  woke the neighbors
up every morning.  finally blew 2 head gaskets, because the head was
worped and shoveled it off to some nice spanish couple and never heard
another word.  Im now into a little "smaller" car now.

shaun
q4 prodigy


On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Larry L Hanson wrote:

> I'm a newbie to the list.  I have an '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham with a
> 5.7 diesel.  I love my car and want to fix 'er up. I know that it is not a
> performance enthusiasts dream car but it is unique.
>
> I have a couple of questions.  Does anyone know how many were built with
> diesels in '81?  Can I get seats from any of the G-bodies to fit in mine?
>
> Thanks.
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:36:48 -0600
From: "Paul L. Brillhart" <PBRILL1@uic.edu>
Subject: '65 442 clutch

Awhile ago I picked up a Centerforce Dual Disc 11" clutch.  I've got a
flywheel off a '66 330 and was wondering if the '65 442 I've got has a
10.5" or 11" clutch.  Never having taken it apart, I have no idea.  If
it's not 11", I may as well have the 330 wheel resurfaced and drilled
for the larger diameter clutch rather than take mine apart and wait
while the work is done.  I won't drive it unit spring, but I hate
leaving projects in pieces as they have a tendency to dissappear.  Does
anyone know the stock clutch diameter for a '65 442?  Thanks.



Paul Brillhart
'65 442 4-spd.

P.S.  Thanks Dave, sorry I got you by mistake.

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