
oldsmobile-digest      Tuesday, January 27 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1074



Re: '65 88 bumpers
Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.
Good seats or reupholster?
3 speed lightning rods?
Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Re: test:don't read
Re: EMT Cast Iron Treatment
Re: test:don't read
[none]
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Date:	Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:24:40 -0600
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Re: 71 W-30 Intake & Carb Wanted
FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
WTB: SSIII Chromes
OK, so who broke the list?
Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.
Pics
Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.
Re: K somthin Racing Web Site - Where are you?
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
ADMIN: Re: test:don't read
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
UNBOUNCE: '65 98 Lens Needed
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Hurst/Olds Sales Folder For Sale (01/27)
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
THM 200 4R Question
Re: Use of your product 104+
Re: StuporBowl
Re: Automotive Machine Shops in LA
Re: V6 -> V8 in G body?
Re: where's the crank?
Re: where's the crank?
Re: EMT Cast Iron Treatment
Re: Extinct Dash Lights
Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.
Re: '65 88 bumpers
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes
Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
test
Re: Pics
gas tank tube
Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes
200R4 suggestions please
Re: test dont read
ADVISE
Steering Box Replacement

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:22:23 -0500
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: '65 88 bumpers

Hey Chris, Tony Waldner and I have heard of them *and* seen them!

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com   
http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

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> From: Chris Brown Witt <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca; me from myself <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
> Subject: wtd: '65 88 bumpers
> Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 7:36 PM


> btw, this car is a MANUAL TRANS 88. Hear of 'em, never seen one.
- -

- -
> Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:28:28 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Joe Gerschutz wrote:

> Here's the situation: 82 Cultass Calais.  231 V6.  No power 
> whatsoever.  Who you recommend swapping in a V8 (350 or 403), or 
> installing a turbo from a regal?  How much work is involved with the 
> turbo installation, as I have little knowledge on them.  Will I be 
> able to find them in a salvage yard, or have to buy one somewhere 
> else?  Are they expensive?  I heard they go out after 25-50K miles, 
> is this true?  Any input would be appreciated.
> 
> Joe

hey joe with the gun,

hey, the turbo idea is great and I am waiting for funds to do one of those
myself.  T-type Cutlass!  I have no idea about the cost or what's involved
with that.
But, as for the V8 swap, that i know is economical.  I have a 403 in my
Cutlass, and power is plentiful.  Of course I spent many dollars on the
internals of the engine and built and installed it myself.  That part of
it was costly.  But you can find a decent 403 cheap in an older (77-79)
less-desirable Olds (or Buick among others) and put it in stock.  With hp
ratings of 180(?) and torque rating at 320(!), the car will move quite
well.  So, spend a couple hundred on the engine, and a couple on beefin up
the trans to handle the extra torque, and drop it in as though it's a 307,
then you gotta a real nice torquey Cutlass.


Yeah, and I've also heard about reliability problems of the turbo 6, but
I can't speak from first or second hand experience.  But, the power
possibilities with that engine and all the aftermarket availabilities are
unbelievable.  You can get that turbo motor into the $10,000 range, I mean
700 hp range. > > 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> ---Joe Gerschutz------------------------------
> ---University of Dayton----------------------
> ---gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu--------
> --------------------------------------------------
> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:32:29 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Good seats or reupholster?

I'm looking to put some Salon bucket seat in my supreme and am just
wondering if anyone can speak through experience and tell me which way
s/he thinks is cheaper: finding and buying seats the right color and in
good shape, or finding seats in good shape structurally that need only to
be reupholstered.

Thanks all

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:35:43 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: 3 speed lightning rods?

Can I hook the lightning rod shifter to a TH350 and have it work
correctly?  I mean, can I block the main shifter from going into what was
the D position and just have it stop at what was the OD position?  Will
the other rods work right then for 1st and 2nd?  I don't want to buy this
shifter and then find out that it'll have some goofy operation.  Thanks!


Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:46:06 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.

Joe Gerschutz wrote:
> 
> Here's the situation: 82 Cultass Calais.  231 V6.  No power
> whatsoever.  Who you recommend swapping in a V8 (350 or 403), or
> installing a turbo from a regal?  How much work is involved with the
> turbo installation, as I have little knowledge on them.  Will I be
> able to find them in a salvage yard, or have to buy one somewhere
> else?  Are they expensive?  I heard they go out after 25-50K miles,
> is this true?  Any input would be appreciated.

Not that I know of...  There is a Turbo Regal list similar to this one,
if you are interested in full conversion, I am sure there's someone
there that's pu;;ed this trick once or twice.
- -- 
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:55:17 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

For what it's worth, Jed Clampet (? spelling)  on the Beverly
Hillbillies (? spelling) drove a 1928 (?) Oldsmobile.  Thar's Olds in
them thar hills!  Also, Demolition Man with Ah-nold featured TWO
identicle red 4-4-2s that were smashed.  Also, the recent Brady Bunch
movies feature a blue Vista Cruiser, I believe, that Mr. Brady drives
those brats in.  I can't believe that Greg had the hots for Marcia! 
Yukk!

- -Loris
1968 Cutlass 'S' convertible
1972 Cutlas Supreme convertible w/Hurst 4 speed

Matt Cremean wrote:
> 
> I know this Olds movie horse has been beaten to death over and over, but
> I just couldn't help sighting the gray '67 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
> Woody Harrelson drives in White Men Can't Jump. Why does he always get
> to drive Olds'? He had a 442 in Kingpin, too! He must like 'em, or
> request 'em, or it might just be a quinky-dink.
> 
> I want to start a list of Oldses to appear in movies and throw them on a
> web page,
> 
> I have these so far:
> 
> White Men Can't Jump
> Kingpin
> A Christmas Story
> Howard Stern's Private Parts (i think, can anybody confirm this? I
> remember that it drove by in the background while a car was stopped
> somewhere)
> Dazed and Confused
> 
> I'm sure most of you can add more!!!!
> --
> **********************************
> Matt Cremean
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> CreamerSoftİ Software
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
> **********************************

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:46:01 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

I wouldn't chime in on this because it is, after all, old.  BUT,
Matt's post reminded me of a movie I recently saw, "Fargo".  Has
anyone seen it?  I couldn't believe the number of Oldsmobiles in
that movie.  They must have had hundreds of 1980's Cutlass
Cieras, 98s (FWD versions), etc.  I was thinking "gee, who
sponsored this movie?"  I've never seen so many of one make of
car in a movie, let alone Oldsmobile.  Just thought I'd mention
that.  8-)

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|	__    ________						|
|	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
|	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
|	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
|	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
|								|
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:56:47 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: test:don't read

It's working fine.

Patrick Derkacz wrote:
> 
> Is this working, I havent gotten any mail in nine hours

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:50:12 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: EMT Cast Iron Treatment

FERRERO@uno.cc.geneseo.edu wrote:
>
> i put the manifold to a wire wheel and got it clean,
> sprayed it, and buffed it with newspaper and got excellent
> results for a 1/3 of the price of the can on hot rod tv.

I figured that there MUST be something cheaper than the products
show-cased in HotRod TV, but I'm too nieve to make a purchase,
but now I know.  Nothing beats personal experience.  Thanks to
all.  I'll try to do the brake drums when I get home for good in
mid-Spring.

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|	__    ________						|
|	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
|	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
|	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
|	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
|								|
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:54:31 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: test:don't read

Patrick Derkacz wrote:
> 
> Is this working, I havent gotten any mail in nine hours

I read it.  8-)  Actually, I have the same symptoms.  Lately, it
seems like the chebucto server waits until a predetermined time
to deliver.  Is this the case, Greg?

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|	__    ________						|
|	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
|	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
|	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
|	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
|								|
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:01:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Shaun Miller <smille02@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: [none]

to who ever posted the message about your own web page, can you please
post it again, my computer went nuts and lost all my saved messages.  the
quad 4 calais is back in action, better than ever, but then how do you
improve on owning a calais q4--maybe an achieva scx modified to the
bone--yea thats it.  


jeff get back on here!!

shaun
q4 guru

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:21:40 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

I would ad Boyz in the Hood at the beginning a real nice Rallye in the
background good shots of it.  (lucky its at the beginning so you don't have
to watch the movie)

And one more.  Help me with this one - Starred the guy from dead zone had
sean penn and his brother in it.  Any ways real nice 71 supreme conv. with
a spoiler.

Just my $.02 worth

Robert Schinkel

- ----------
> From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
> To: Oldsmobile List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Olds "in the movies" list
> Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 2:53 PM
> 
> I know this Olds movie horse has been beaten to death over and over, but
> I just couldn't help sighting the gray '67 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
> Woody Harrelson drives in White Men Can't Jump. Why does he always get
> to drive Olds'? He had a 442 in Kingpin, too! He must like 'em, or
> request 'em, or it might just be a quinky-dink.
> 
> I want to start a list of Oldses to appear in movies and throw them on a
> web page,
> 
> I have these so far:
> 
> White Men Can't Jump
> Kingpin
> A Christmas Story
> Howard Stern's Private Parts (i think, can anybody confirm this? I
> remember that it drove by in the background while a car was stopped
> somewhere)
> Dazed and Confused
> 
> I'm sure most of you can add more!!!!
> -- 
> **********************************
> Matt Cremean
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> CreamerSoftİ Software
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
> **********************************

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:24:40 -0600
From: danielk@ldd.net (DANIEL KELLY)
Subject: Date:	Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:24:40 -0600

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:29:53 -0500
From: "Ulysses Melen" <Master-Stile@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

Anyone see the movie Dark Half?? I saw it last night again and just wanted
to comment on the choice Tornado they used  "One High Tone S O B" And Let's
not forget Demolition Man and Karate Kid III!


White Men Can't Jump
Kingpin
A Christmas Story
Howard Stern's Private Parts (i think, can anybody confirm this? I
remember that it drove by in the background while a car was stopped
somewhere)
Dazed and Confused

I'm sure most of you can add more!!!!
- ----------

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:30:52 EST
From: James244 <James244@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 71 W-30 Intake & Carb Wanted

JR
I have a 71 W30 carb AT. Email me at James244@aol.com with any questions you
have regarding this and I'll see if i can help.

James
69 442
86 442 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:40:23 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

                                          C&M Classic Parts
                       1132 Chatmoss Drive, Virginia Beach, VA 23464
                                (757)474-0869, FAX (757)474-0694
                                         <chermac@exis.net>

Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm,  Sat 9:00 am - 6:00 pm,  Sunday Closed
*We accept all major Credit Cards. VISA, M/C, Amer. Express, and Discover.*
Lots of new reproduction parts will be coming out in January-March 98.
We will be vending at the Spring Charlotte Auto Fair at the Charlotte Motor
Speedway on 23-26 Apr.

        66 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $1795.00
        67 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $995.00
        66 & 67 Track Pac kits (complete, just like the dealer option includes;
        shroud, ducts, hoses, cam/lifters, battery accessories) Apr/May 98.
                
        69-72 "W" and "Z" exhaust manifold sets (NEW) Fall 98
                **** Items with an ** are 10% off thru Jan 98.
 
New reproduction parts:
Vinyl Dash Overlays (makes your wood dash areas look like carbon fiber)
$50.00 set 

Lifetime Guarantee on all correct bead window felts  $92.00 set (inner & outer)
66-67 2 dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (correct bead type) 
68-72 2 dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (not Supreme Coupes, correct bead) 

Replacement Window Felts (Flat type)  $60.00 set (inner & outer)
64-72 Cutlass/442 (state year and model)

Glove Box Liners
64-67 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
68-69 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
70-72 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99

Qrt Seals
70-72 Cutlass Supreme & Conv Qtr End seals  $13.00 pr

Hood Liners
64-65 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
66 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
67 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
68-70 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner (wclips)  $18.00
70-72 Cutlass Supreme Hood Liner (w/clips)  $18.00

Liner Clips
Round Clips  $1.00 ea
Square Clips  $1.00 ea

A-Arm Shields
68-72 Upper A-Arm dust shields  $14.99 pr

3M Stripe Kits
68 W-36 Stripe Kits (white, black, red)  $55.00 pr

New Parts:
330/350 10.5 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits includes Pressure plate, disc,
throwout bearing, alignment tool. (all NEW pieces)  $130.00
400/455 11.0 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits same as above (all NEW pieces)  $135.00
64-72 (N.O.S.) Clutch Inspection covers  $22.00 ea
71-72 OAI Hood (very nice orig.)  $1000.00
70-72 OAI Breather assm (nice orig.)  $550.00
71-72 W-30 Aluminum Intake Manifold (nice)  $650.00
70-75 Sport Steering Wheel (black, nice centers, complete)  $130.00 ea
Small Block Cylinder Heads #4 (67) $120, #7 (71),  #7a (72) $145 pr
Big Block Cylinder Heads  "B" (66) $250 pr, "C" (67) $275 pr, "G" (71) $150 pr, 
"H" (71 W-30) $1500 pr.   
68-69 Jetaway Trans (very low miles, not a switchpitch)  $90.00
64-68 4 Spd Console Top Plate and Door (fair to good cond, w/nice boot)  $50.00
64-66 Master Cylinders (correct, rebuilt)  $43.50 ea
3&4 Spd. Pilot Bushing (Bronze) new  $7.50 ea
3&4 Spd. HD Roller Pilot Bearing new  $24.50 ea 
75 Omega Front Fenders (very nice pair)  $180.00 pr
75 Omega Bucket Seats (nice, maroon cloth)  $85.00 pr
65-67 425 "D" Block std bore, small lifter bore  $150.00  
66-67 442 "E" 400 block (std bore)  $250.00 ea
65-67 400/425 Steel Crank (needs turning, std) $180.00
65-67 400/425 Rods (1 set)  $150.00 set
**64-67 Power Steering Bracket  $15.00
**64-67 Alternator Brackets (A/C car)  $20.00 set
**69-72 4 Row Radiator Top Plate (nice)  $65.00 
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/o tilt)  *new*  $24.00
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/tilt) *new*  $22.00
**67-68 Big Cars AM/FM Stereo (nice, works well)  $75.00
**69-72  Bench Seat Headrests (black, mint)  $45.00 pr
68-72 Arm Rest Pad Bases (rear, post coupe, black)  $20.00 pr
**69-70 Console Shift Steering Column (non-tilt)  $95.00
64-72 Power Window Motors  (excellent cond) $50.00 ea
**70-72 455 Engine Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $40.00 pr
**68-72 350 Engine Mount (NEW, Made in USA)  $38.00 pr
**64-72 Jetaway/TH350, 4 Spd Trans Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $14.00 
**67-72 TH400 Trans Mounts (NEW, made in USA)  $17.00 ea
(6) Hurst Wheels 14x6 (5 on 4 3/4) nice  $2300.00 

New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts 1964-1972 Cutlass/442
83-87 Hurst/Olds&442 (N.O.S.) Exhaust System (complete)  $450.00
83-84 Hurst/Olds (N.O.S.) Lightning Rod Whiskers  $150.00
68-72+ TH Torque Converter Cover (Plastic, N.O.S.)  $31.00 ea
**65 Cutlass/442 PO2 Deluxe Wheelcovers (N.O.S.)  $350.00 set
**66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                           
**68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                       
**69 Cutlass RH Grilles (N.O.S.) $85.00 ea                             
**70 Cutlass Supreme Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
**70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
**71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr                          
**71-72 Stone Shields (N.O.S.) $38.00 ea                              
**71-72 Headlight Housings (plastic) (N.O.S.) $80.00 pr          
**72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr

Used Parts:
64 Cutlass/442                       
**64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
**RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00                                                  
**Front Bumper Core  $50.00                                                   
**F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00                                      

65 Cutlass/442
**64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
**65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  LH/RH rear $15.00 ea
65-(early) 66 Plain Full Wheel Covers (4, mint)  $30.00 

66 Cutlass/442
**64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
**66 Cutlass Trunk Molding (very good)  $75.00
**66 Cutlass Tail Light Bezels (very good)  $85.00 pr
65-(early) 66 Plain Full Wheel Covers (4, mint)  $30.00 set
**66 Turbine Full Wheel Covers (4) good  $80.00 set
66 Cutlass/442 Side Chrome moldings (almost complete set) Inquire
**66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
**66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00 
**66-67 AM Radios (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
**66 Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
**Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea                                  

67 Cutlass/442
67 330/320 hp 4bbl engine (complete)  $200.00
**67 4 spd Speedometer Adapter (3.42 gears & 4spd)  $45.00
67 Cutlass Plain Full Hubcaps (4, mint)  $30.00
**67 Plain Cutlass Holiday Hardtop interior door panels and rear sides (very
nice, blue/green) $85.00 set of 4
**67 Cutlass Jetaway Trans (low miles, w/switch pitch converter)  $100.00
66-67 Rear Side window lower U-seals (new, Metro Moulded)  $18.00 pr
**67 Cutlass Hood (mint)  $100.00
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
**66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
**67 F-85 Rear Bumper (very good condition)  $75.00
**67 Front Bumper (straight, core)  $70.00
**67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $50.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $90.00 ea
67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $3.00
**67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $165.00

68 Cutlass/442
68 2 bbl Air Cleaner  $20.00
**68-69 Cutlass/442 Post Coupe LH Door  $85.00
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
68 Turn Signal Lens (mint)  $12.00 ea
**68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $75.00
**68-69 14x6 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
68 AM Radio  $25.00
**68  8-Track Unit (housing cracked, needs plastic one)  $65.00
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00              
Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set                               
68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00                     
**68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $40.00 ea                                            
68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea                                
**68-72 B-Pillar Molding Sets (black, mint) $27.50 pr 

69 Cutlass/442
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
**69 Cutlass RH Grille (nice, used)  $40.00
**69 Cruise Control Switch and Bezel  $25.00
**69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
**69 Trunk Lid (Conv, nice)  $175.00
**69 Headlight Bezels  $60.00 pr
**69 Lower Dash (radio area)  (nice)  $35.00
69 C/S Side Moldings (mint, no pits)  $15.00 ea
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
**69 Cutlass/442 Doors 2 dr Hardtop (mint pair)  $200.00 pr / $110.00 ea
**69-72 Hood Hinges  $40.00 pr
**69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $25.00 pr
**69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $25.00 pr
68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $45.00 set                                 
68-72 Fastback Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set
**69-72 Floor Shift Steering Column (very good)  $95.00
69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
**69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $200.00
**69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $55.00 ea
69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $25.00 ea

70 Cutlass/442
**70 LH/RH Hood "L" moldings (few small pits under side, nice) $95.00 pr
**70 442/SX/Rally 350 Rear Cutout Bumper (CORE)  $110.00
**70-72 Lower A/C Vents (for 8 Track car, mint, black)  $80.00 pr 
**70-72 Dash Pad and Dash Plastic (radio area, green, mint)  $185.00
**70 Std Auto console neutral safety switch w/bracket  $65.00
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
**70 FLAT Fender RH (small metal patch panel installed nice)  $200.00 
70 Cutlass Supreme Door Panels (black mint) 4 for $100.00
**70 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
**70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $115.00
70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $55.00
70-72 Std. Auto Console Shift Lens  (repro)  $23.00 ea
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea             
70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00                                    
69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00                                
**69-70 "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $25.00 pr                                        
**69-70 "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $25.00 pr
**70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr         
**70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $90.00                                  
**70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
**70-72 RH Fender (has small patch panel)   $185.00
70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens   $17.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens  $23.00 ea

71 Cutlass/442
**70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
**71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
**71-72 Fender RH (small metal patch in bottom)  $185.00
71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
**71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
**70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea 
**71 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr

72 Cutlass/442
**70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
**71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00                                  
**71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
**72 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr            

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:51:20 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: WTB: SSIII Chromes

Anyone got some decent SSIII Chrome wheels they like to oh, say sell???
- -- 
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:19:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: OK, so who broke the list?

The server doesn't seem to be responding, and I haven't gotten a digest in a
while. Just wondering if things were broken there, or on my end.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:33:46 -0500
From: Gerald Hughes <ghughes@hughesconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.

Joe,
	Hitching your Calais to a turbo is much easier a job than to R&R a
motor.  
	The most important thing to be careful of is the current condition of
the motor.  How many miles does it have on it?  Is it running strong?  

	You're also gonna want to do a compression test on all 6 cyl to make
sure your rings are still good.  If your motor checks out ok, then the
turbo will be a good thing for it.

	I would recommend buying either a new turbo, or a rebuilt turbo.  Used
turbos are bad luck and impossible to find.  

							Gerald Hughes

Joe Gerschutz wrote:
> 
> Here's the situation: 82 Cultass Calais.  231 V6.  No power
> whatsoever.  Who you recommend swapping in a V8 (350 or 403), or
> installing a turbo from a regal?  How much work is involved with the
> turbo installation, as I have little knowledge on them.  Will I be
> able to find them in a salvage yard, or have to buy one somewhere
> else?  Are they expensive?  I heard they go out after 25-50K miles,
> is this true?  Any input would be appreciated.
> 
> Joe
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> ---Joe Gerschutz------------------------------
> ---University of Dayton----------------------
> ---gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu--------
> --------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:45:05 EST
From: TERMO1L <TERMO1L@aol.com>
Subject: Pics

Hey guys and gals please mail me your car pics I am trying to put together a
web page with all sorts of olds.

Thanks
Mike

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:08:34 -0600
From: dnewman@wcbi.com (Doug Newman)
Subject: Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.

Joe Gerschutz wrote:

>Here's the situation: 82 Cultass Calais.  231 V6.  No power 
>whatsoever.  Who you recommend swapping in a V8 (350 or 403), or 
>installing a turbo from a regal?  How much work is involved with the 
>turbo installation, as I have little knowledge on them.  Will I be 
>able to find them in a salvage yard, or have to buy one somewhere 
>else?  Are they expensive?  I heard they go out after 25-50K miles, 
>is this true?  Any input would be appreciated.

Ah, the infamous Buick 231 in an '82 Olds.  I had a 4-Dr. '82 Cutlass
Supreme that I drove for seven years with this setup.  Had to cross my
fingers every time I tried to get into traffic.  A lot of people will tell
you an Olds 350 is the easiest and most satisfactory way to go.  A good
friend used to own (emphasis on USED to own) an '85 Buick Grand National,
and he had more trouble out of that turbo.  Even a 307 is a noticeable
improvement over a 231.  

My .02 cents,

Doug Newman
Columbus, MS
1987 442

http://www.442.com/newman.html 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:25:43 -0800 (PST)
From: h07@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: K somthin Racing Web Site - Where are you?

There is a link to Ken Snyder Racings web site from the
H07 Registry's web site, along with lots of other info
and links about H-Special bodied Starfires.

The H07 Registry's web site is at

   http://home.earthlink.net/~h07/reg/main.htm

The registry's mailing address is

   H07 Registry
   PO Box 2653
   Mission Viejo, CA  92690

At 25 Jan 1998 11:30:30 -0500, Brad Nicholson <brad442@erols.com>
wrote: (Snip!)
>I was starting to update the links to the OCA Web Site Links this
>weekend and wanted to add a couple. One was for a race team in Kansas I
>believe that had a SCCA Pro Solo Starfire and 2 NASCAR stockers.  I
>elieve the gentleman is on the list.  If you are,please drop me a line
>w/ your e-mail & web site info.  

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:43:44 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Matt Cremean wrote:
> I want to start a list of Oldses to appear in movies and throw them on a
> web page,

Already been done... it's in the FAQ!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:45:21 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Re: test:don't read

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Jason Adcock wrote:
> 
> I read it.  8-)  Actually, I have the same symptoms.  Lately, it
> seems like the chebucto server waits until a predetermined time
> to deliver.  Is this the case, Greg?

No, Chebucto has just been having network problems the last few days and 
mail has been hit or (mostly) miss. Hope they have it fixed by now.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:46:46 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, loris wrote:
> I can't believe that Greg had the hots for Marcia! 
> Yukk!

I do??? Hope I get to meet her soon, then... ;-)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:48:42 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '65 98 Lens Needed

Not on the list, please reply directly to danielk@ldd.net if you can help...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	danielk@ldd.net (DANIEL KELLY)

I am looking for what I believe is a courtesy lamp lens for my 1965 =
Oldsmobile 98.  If you have any suggestions please send a reply to =
danielk@ldd.net

I appreciate the assistance.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:59:26 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

Robert:

The name of the movie you are talking about is called 'At Close Range'.
It feature Sean Penn and Christoper Walken.  I haven't seen the movie in
quite some time but it featured a BEAUTIFUL Cutlass something.  Song
theme for the movie was Maddona's 'Live To Tell'.  Good movie.

- -Loris

Robert Schinkel wrote:
> 
> I would ad Boyz in the Hood at the beginning a real nice Rallye in the
> background good shots of it.  (lucky its at the beginning so you don't have
> to watch the movie)
> 
> And one more.  Help me with this one - Starred the guy from dead zone had
> sean penn and his brother in it.  Any ways real nice 71 supreme conv. with
> a spoiler.
> 
> Just my $.02 worth
> 
> Robert Schinkel
> 
> ----------
> > From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
> > To: Oldsmobile List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Subject: Olds "in the movies" list
> > Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 2:53 PM
> >
> > I know this Olds movie horse has been beaten to death over and over, but
> > I just couldn't help sighting the gray '67 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
> > Woody Harrelson drives in White Men Can't Jump. Why does he always get
> > to drive Olds'? He had a 442 in Kingpin, too! He must like 'em, or
> > request 'em, or it might just be a quinky-dink.
> >
> > I want to start a list of Oldses to appear in movies and throw them on a
> > web page,
> >
> > I have these so far:
> >
> > White Men Can't Jump
> > Kingpin
> > A Christmas Story
> > Howard Stern's Private Parts (i think, can anybody confirm this? I
> > remember that it drove by in the background while a car was stopped
> > somewhere)
> > Dazed and Confused
> >
> > I'm sure most of you can add more!!!!
> > --
> > **********************************
> > Matt Cremean
> > +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> > CreamerSoftİ Software
> > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
> > +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> > 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
> > **********************************

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:26:00 -0500
From: "Thomas G. Stoner" <tgstoner@umich.edu>
Subject: Hurst/Olds Sales Folder For Sale (01/27)

I have the following Oldsmobile related item which I would like to sell:

1988 20th Anniversary Hurst/Olds Aero Commemorative sales folder.
Original full color pocket folder containing two black and white 8 x 10
factory photos of the white prototype 1988 Hurst/Olds; three sheets of
specifications, photos and other information on the 20th Anniversary
Aero Commemorative kit for dealer installation (printed in black and
red, on white); a copy of the 8-page May 1988 issue of ³Automotive
Digest of Arizona² which includes an article on the 1988 Hurst/Olds; and
a one page information sheet and order form for the 1988 Hurst/Olds
³Mini Commemorative² gokart.  Excellent original condition.  $25.00,
including shipping to any address in North America.  (1/27/98)

Notify me directly at tgstoner@umich.edu if you would like to purchase
this item, or if you would like additional information about it.  Thank
you.

          ===
+======= | | | =======================+
|        | | |   Tom Stoner           |
|        |/|\|   OCA #3943            |
|        | | |   Ann Arbor, Michigan  |
|         ===    tgstoner@umich.edu   |
+=====================================+

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:23:24 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Matt Cremean wrote:
> > I want to start a list of Oldses to appear in movies and throw them on a
> > web page,
> 
> Already been done... it's in the FAQ!

D'OH!! Somebody's always ONE step ahead!!!!!

- -- 
**********************************
Matt Cremean
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
CreamerSoftİ Software
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
**********************************

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:35:00 -0600
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: THM 200 4R Question

What is the availability and cost of a used GN/442/SS 200 4R vs trying
to beef up a plain jane Caddy/307/etc 200 4R?  A friend of mine had his
85 Delta 200 4R rebuilt and a GN throttle body installed, it set him
back around $600.  Is this common?  Will it work right?  Is the
GN/442/SS 200 4R capable of handling more power than a standard 200 4R
from a say, Cadillac HT4100?  I can get a number of 200 4R's from cars
like that for $150 + $10 core.  Is it worth it?

Thanks!
Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:09:03 -0800
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Use of your product 104+

I wrote:

> I have used your product before and it has worked the best out of the
> other octane boosters I have tried.  My question is that since my car
> is pre-catalytic converter and high-compression (68 Olds 442) does
> your product help to lubricate the valves like original leaded
> gasoline did?
>
> I would like to use a product that has the lubrication and octane all
> in one package.

R Thomas Wicks (from 104+) wrote:

> yes but the 442 after 1967 had hardened valve seats check with Olds
> you should not need valve lube


OK folks is his statement true?

Chris Sparks

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:16:18 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: StuporBowl

How many does it take to play in Kansas City?
I am a Cleveland Fan raised in cleveland and like coach marty s.
Wanted to see him beat Denver sooooo bad.
Maybe next year.
Thanks Coy
ARS
Las Vegas NV
- ----------
> From: KS7RACING <KS7RACING@aol.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: StuporBowl
> Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 5:02 PM
> 
> Remember, ladies and gents: it only takes 1 ball to play
> football....................
> 
> Auto Racing. Anything else is just a game.
> 
> 
> Ken Snyder Racing
> Kansas City, Kansas
> NASCAR Winston Cup - coming soon!

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:21:54 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Automotive Machine Shops in LA

We had our work done by a man named Tom Bayer. From Bayer and Bayer Racing.
He is located up at Alta Loma but has an excellent reputation for engine
building and has all the connections, and has been featured in Drag Racing
magizine, and Popular Hot Rod and last year finished 3rd in NHRA in points
in super comp.
Thanks Coy
PS He has a racing freind who builds nothing but Oldsmobiles(neighbor)
- ----------
> From: aguilars@pacbell.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Automotive Machine Shops in LA
> Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 5:59 PM
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good automotive machine shop in the LA area (San
> Fernando, San Gabriel Valley)?  I am rebuilding the engine from my '70
> 442 and want to take it someplace with a good track record.  Thanks.
> 
> Joseph

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:10:55 -0500
From: Bob Valentine <ravalent@liii.com>
Subject: Re: V6 -> V8 in G body?

At 06:34 PM 1/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>My buddy has decided to finally rid himself of the Buick scourge (e.g.
>231 V-6).  I've got a question from him.  This was not an issue when
>putting my car together (350 in G-body) because my car was previously set
>up for a Chevy motor so I definitely had to move mine.  Can he simply bolt
>the motor (a "9" engine code 307 w/ all original peripherals) up on the
>stock V-6 motor mounts or will he have to use a different set?  This makes
>a big difference as we are going to reuse the stock frame mounts and don't
>want to take the time and effort to remove them if we don't have to.

    You'll need the Olds frame brackets.  Yes, they're a pain to remove and
install, but you've got no choice....   Other than that the rest of the
swap isn't too bad, pretty straight foward since GM designed those cars to
take just about any motor

>Clayton Pierce,
>zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
>the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com


- --> Bob Valentine
- --> ravalent@liii.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:00:52 EST
From: BIG JERMES <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: Re: where's the crank?

In a message dated 98-01-26 22:57:00 EST, you write:

<< Whoa, your crank best not be "coming out of the oil"!
 
 The oil sump is supposed to hold oil BELOW the crank.
 
 Next time you have your engine on the stand, put the dipstick & tube back in,
 see where the oil level should be... >>

sorry, i was talking about how the counterwieghts on the crank come up out of
the oil sitting in the oil pan when the engine is turning.  (then they go back
into the oil, and over and over and over....)

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:02:23 EST
From: BIG JERMES <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: Re: where's the crank?

ooohhh!!!  i see what your saying, now, i think!!  oops!  

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:25:14 PST
From: "ASSASSIN ss" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: EMT Cast Iron Treatment

>From oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca Mon Jan 26 19:52:36 1998
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> 26 Jan 1998 20:51:12 EST
>Date:	Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:51:12 -0500 (EST)
>From:	FERRERO@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
>Subject: Re: EMT Cast Iron Treatment
>To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
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>Hi ,summit sales that ,its Nu-Cast Iron Engine Coating ,Its On Page 210 
Its $3.95 Or $5.95 Flameproof.I coated my intake manifold its works so 
good you cant tell its not new

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:33:15 PST
From: "ASSASSIN ss" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Extinct Dash Lights

>From oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca Sun Jan 25 01:39:56 1998
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>From:	KarlAune <KarlAune@aol.com>
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>Date:	Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:37:19 EST
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are you the karl that has a 75 olds delta 88 convrt??

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:01:19 +0500
From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Subject: Re: More Power.  Argh argh argh.

>Here's the situation: 82 Cultass Calais.  231 V6.  No power 
>whatsoever.  Who you recommend swapping in a V8 

Yes, it would be the quickest cheapest simplest way to increase power.  If
the car is going to be a long term project and you can afford the cash to
"do it right" then a turbo motor would be a cool idea.  If you're just
looking for an easy extra 50hp in a daily cruiser then the V8 swap is the
way to go.


>  How much work is involved with the 
>turbo installation, as I have little knowledge on them.

You need a little more than just the turbo.  You'll at least need the
manifolds that go along with it.  If I'm not mistaken you need a special
intake manifold, even with a carburetor.  The turbo mounts to the intake and
then the carbueretor mounts to the turbo.  The exhaust manifolds are
different too.  The V6 may also need the bottom end beffed up and the
gearing may need changed since turbos run better with low gears.  

 The problem with the turbo/carbueretor setup was that it wasn't known for
being especially fast, and I don't think it would be as fast as a good V8.
It was the fuel injection and computer controls that brought the turbo
regals to life. A turbo works best when it's only pushing air and the fuel
is injected downstream at the ports.  The electronic spark control in the
EFI engines allows for more boost before detonation.  The intercoolers that
came on the later cars and the somewhat cooler fuel temps that result from
EFI also help allow more boost.    

>Will I be 
>able to find them in a salvage yard, or have to buy one somewhere 
>else?  

I doubt you'll find a turbo regal in a junkyard, though it's certainly worth
looking if you're really interested.  I've never found one and I would bet
that most of the people who own these cars by now are collectors, so if
anything happens to one it's probably going to be kept for parts or stripped
before it goes to the boneyard.

The turbo is about $500 new.  I don't know what the special carbuereted
manifold would cost but an EFI system would likely be a couple thousand
dollars or more.  

> I heard they go out after 25-50K miles, 
>is this true?

I knew a guy who had a 86 GN and the turbo went out at about 50k miles.
I've read that turbo failures are often caused by improper maintinence since
most folks don't know they have different requirements.  (For instance the
oil has to be changed more frequently, and under certain circumstances the
engine has to idle for a couple of minuits before it should be shut off, etc.)



Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:03:15 -0500
From: tonwald@eta.k12.mn.us (Tony Waldner)
Subject: Re: '65 88 bumpers

>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:57:47 -0500
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>From: tonwald@eta.k12.mn.us (Tony Waldner)
>Subject: Re: '65 88 bumpers
>Cc:
>Bcc:
>X-Attachments:
>
>>Hey Chris, Tony Waldner and I have heard of them *and* seen them!
>>
>>Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com
>
>>> btw, this car is a MANUAL TRANS 88. Hear of 'em, never seen one.
>>-
>>
>>-
>>> Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
>
>
>
>
>Plus .....Kurt and I have driven them too!!!!!!
>
>Tony
>
>70 442 W-30
>70 Toro GT W-34
>65 Jetstar 88 w/4-speed
>85 Cutlass Salon 455 Drag Racer
>92 Seville STS
>86 Delta 88 winter beater
>

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                                        Tony Waldner
tonwald@eta.k12.mn.us                   Northeast Metro 916
                                         3300 Century Ave. N.
                                         White Bear Lake, MN
                                                       55110

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:09:55 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

In a message dated 98-01-26 23:40:58 EST, you write:

<< I want to start a list of Oldses to appear in movies and throw them on a
 web page, >>


If you haven't seen the movie HOT ROD it's got to be one of the classic
car movies to start with not to mention the throughout the entire movie
one of the two feature cars is a 69 442.  Movie is about a guy with a 65
M**par that he puts a hemi in and wants to run @ the winter natl's.
Unfortunately
the bad gut in the movie has the 442 but throught out he builds the motor and
ends up with a blower on it for finals.
Too bad they spoil a good car movie with the ol "lets throw a girl into the
formula
and get everyone in trouble."

I have a copy if you want .... can dupe for $10 and send to ya.


Rgds,
R.Thomas 
69 442
f

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:15:37 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes

In a message dated 98-01-27 04:27:50 EST, you write:

<< 
 Anyone got some decent SSIII Chrome wheels they like to oh, say sell??? >>


I can possibly come up with a set of 15" ones.
I'll check to see if they are still available.
Where ya from  as shipping from Detroit could prove expensive.

Rgds,
R.Thomas

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:20:51 -0500
From: Jim Hurd <jhurd@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes

At 11:51 PM 1/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone got some decent SSIII Chrome wheels they like to oh, say sell???
>-- 
>- Jerry Christopher
>- HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
>- 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
>- Here we go Steelers!!!
>

Jerry,
        
        Try this number (330)453-7965.  I was looking to buy a car from them
(private) and they had a set of SSIII's they were selling seperate.  I think
they were looking for about 400-500$ for them.  They are located in Canton,
OH.  About 1 1/2 hrs from you. (your in pittsburgh right).  I'm in Akron,
OH.  I didn't look at the wheels but he said they were in excellent condition.




Jim H.
'87 Salon

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:24:01 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Jason Adcock wrote:

> I wouldn't chime in on this because it is, after all, old.  BUT,
> Matt's post reminded me of a movie I recently saw, "Fargo".  Has
> anyone seen it?  I couldn't believe the number of Oldsmobiles in
> that movie.  They must have had hundreds of 1980's Cutlass
> Cieras, 98s (FWD versions), etc.  I was thinking "gee, who
> sponsored this movie?"  I've never seen so many of one make of
> car in a movie, let alone Oldsmobile.  Just thought I'd mention
> that.  8-)


Yeah, I saw that, it was great.  Any movie that has multiple scenes in an
Olds dealership is cool.  Was that a white 87 Cutlass Supreme that I saw
the front end of at one point?  How Old's (!) that movie?  I thought it
was from the early 90's?

> 
> +---------------------------------------------------------------+
> |	__    ________						|
> |	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
> |	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
> |	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
> |	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
> |								|
> +---------------------------------------------------------------+
> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:25:00 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: test

12:25

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:27:19 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Pics

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, TERMO1L wrote:

> Hey guys and gals please mail me your car pics I am trying to put together a
> web page with all sorts of olds.
> 
> Thanks
> Mike

Hey Mike,
I'd love to mail you a pcture of my Rocket, but I can only do so if you
mean U.S. mail.   I don't have a scanner or whatever, let alone a
computer! (in the library now!)
Please send address if you don't mind.  Thanks!


Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:32:49 EST
From: EDZX6 <EDZX6@aol.com>
Subject: gas tank tube

I e-mailed this question a couple of days ago and got no replys so I'm
thinking that maybe it didn't go through.  So here it goes again, does anyone
know how to replace the gas tank filler tube on a 72 Cutlass S.  Mine is
damaged and needs replacement if possible.  I hate to have to replace the
entire gas tank.
Thanks in advance for any info that will help me resolve this problem.

Eddie
72 Cutlass S   conv / 4spd

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:33:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Jerry Christopher wrote:

> Anyone got some decent SSIII Chrome wheels they like to oh, say sell???
> -- 
> - Jerry Christopher
> - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
> - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> - Here we go Steelers!!!
> 
Hey Jerry,
I think I have the wheels you want.  They're 14x?'s, and they are the same
as any Olds rally wheel on the 80's Cutli, well kinda.  Instead of the
beauty ring and the five pop-on triangular trim pieces, the wheel is all
one piece and all chrome.  I know these are some special order kinda
wheel, H/O, maybe?  They are on my car now, but I'll probably want to get
rid of them because the 205 70 14's on em can't do the job of the 235 60
15's on my Centerlines.  Problem is, I cracked one of the Centerlines, and
the 235s rub the frame in the rear.  So, I need to replace one wheel and
get spacers, or replace all wheels.  That is currently 3rd on my priority
list.  Just let me know how patient you are, and I'll hook you up if you
don't come across any others.


Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:37:48 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: 200R4 suggestions please

I got an e-mail today from Jason Moberg.  I'll attach his message here.
I just figured you guys might be able to help him better than me since
I've never had to deal with a 200R4.

>>  Hi there.       Very interesting 500 ci caddy swap into the olds
442.I have a
>>  Canadian model 1986 cutlass salon with a LG4 305 chevy (not the 307
>>  Olds) and 2004r 4 speed.  I intend on replacing with a built 403
Olds
>>  and 3.42 posi, but have not heard anything to suggest that a stock
2004r
>>  will handle this much torque.A stock 77 403 with full emmissions has
320
>>  ft.lbs torque.  How is the 2004r handling the torque, and should I
just
>>  use a th350 from another car and my existing open 2.73 instead? Any
>>  suggestions greatly appreciated!
>>  Jason Moberg
>>  plamodo@telusplanet.net
>>  Banff Alberta,Canada

Respond directly to his e-mail address at the bottom of his message,
please.  Thanx guys.
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:08:16 -0600
From: Patrick Derkacz <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Subject: Re: test dont read

test

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:02:16 PST
From: "john foster" <anyasbbj@hotmail.com>
Subject: ADVISE

hi,
   my name is john foster and i have so questions dealing with a 73 455 
ci. now i don't know how you guy feel about making a hybrid but ever 
sence my first car a 68' cutlass my sophmore year in high school the 
oldmobile sound and power i guess grew on me. after spending the last 
couple of years racing up at spokane raceway park and everywhere you 
look some one has a small block chevy. i got a little sick of hearing 
307,327, and especially 350. don't get me wrong they are all good 
motors, its just they are everywhere.
   ok, back to the point i am stuffing the 455 into 59' chevy pickup.
i have been playing with this off and on for about four years now, 
working on it in between work, girlfriend, and school. (needless to say 
she hasn't been worked on for a while. by the time she gets back on the 
road i will probably be burried in it. its all fun right!!)
my knowledge and experience with oldsmobile motors is pretty slim so i 
was wondering if i could get a hand.
   
   i am curious what the "F" means on the heads and block. does this 
refer to chamber style, compression, exe. i am looking to made a pretty 
mean motor and if anyone has any advise about any styles of cams, 
compression ratios, headers vs. manifolds, intake manifolds, anything at 
all. if anyone has any time to help me out i would appreshiate it.

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:08:45 -0500
From: jmerritt@columbiaresearch.com
Subject: Steering Box Replacement

     I just purchased a 72 CS that has the stock steering box in it, I 
     would like to put a performance ratio box in instead, are there any 
     tip or tricks for this installation, I was told by a seller that he 
     had a close ratio box out of a 92 Z28 with all the correct fittings 
     for the olds and that it would fit fine...
     
     joel

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