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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, February 9 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1091



Ignition Trauma
Stuff For Sale
Re: A question about milling
Vote For Jason
Ertl '69 442
67 Delta Custom parts car
Re: '76 production totals
Got red buckets, NOS wheel covers
motor testing
Re: Hoods
block drain petcocks
Distributer help(desperate everbody please help)
VSO???????
scribes & picks
mtn o' heads
smog motors defined
head & blocks avail.
C heads avail.
spring rates
Wanted 73 - 75 Cutlass Coupe
Re: I need production totals
NEED A CARB!
76' Production totals
Re: VSO???????
Trunk Stipes
Re: Hoods
TOWING??
Re: Oldsmobile Lansing Video from Doug Newman
Re: Vote For Jason
Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question
Vin question/opinions on plug wires
Re: Ignition Trauma
Re: Ignition Trauma
Re: '76 production totals
Sad day for me
email address of chris brown witt
Re: Hoods
Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
Re: Distributer help(desperate everbody please help)
Need a race cam for your 455?
Re: Distributer help
Center Caps for Ralley Wheels
Re: VSO???????
Re: '73-'75
Re: '73-'75
Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question
Re: Vote For Jason
Re: Oust charcoal/Kids!
Re: 67 Delta Custom parts car
Re: 67 Delta Custom parts car
70-72 OAI Breather Assembly Identification
Headers For Sale...
Miscellaneous...
TESTING
more on 67 D88Cstm pcs car
The "Olds"-Files
Boxed Lower Control Arms
How to EXPLODE sales for a small, local business
Still having e-mail server problems??
cylinder ridge
H/G heads, engine ID
Oil Pan Gasket Replacement
Re: Lighting Rods
Re: Vin question/opinions on plug wires
G-body bucket seats needed.
Re: 76' Production totals

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 11:54:24 -0400
From: jramsey@mail.utexas.edu (John Ramsey)
Subject: Ignition Trauma

Hey Folks,

        I'm having a problem that I believe is with my ignition.  I just
installed a brand new Mallory Comp9000 distributor and ProMaster Coil setup.
It ran just beautifully for a couple of days, but now doesn't idle.  It will
run at rpm > 1000 or so, but never really feels or sounds right.

        I changed the plug gap (from .04 to .034) and it would idle, but
still fluctuated. So I continued to gap down (to .03) at which point it
would no longer idle.  I have now gapped it back to .034, but of course it
still doesn't run right.  I find it curious that it would be so sensitive to
plug gap, especially in such a small range.  So I checked the dwell and
found that it was only 15 degrees.  Can this be right?  It is awefully low.

        With the dwell being this low, I'd like to adjust it (to about 30),
but to this point I haven't been able to figure HOW to adjust dwell.  I
called Super Shops, and they don't believe that it can be the module, an I
couldn't find a dwell adjustment when I took apart the distributor.

        I checked timing and all, which was fine, and I couldn't see that
anything had shifted within the distributor.

        Does anyone know how to adjust dwell on these things?  Or any other
thoughts as to what might be wrong?  Thanks alot!

John Ramsey
'69 Cutlass 'S' 455

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 11:05:25 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Stuff For Sale

PLEASE
E me direct and
I'll get back to you A.S.A.P

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com

1968

Hood Hinges                                                $35
442 Air cleaner                                             $75
3 sp. console (standard shift) looks like a 4 sp. console       $275
C casting heads  (complete)                         $175
Convertible top cylinders                              $30 ea.
Conv. Top latches                                           $30.pr
Conv. Vent windows with frames good chrome   $60.pr.
Reverse light lens good condition                     $10
Rear defroster Switch                                      $20

1969

442 Grills exc.                         $190
Wiper switch                            $40
Radio plate (uncut)                   $20
Rear defroster Switch & wiring   $25
Plastic headlight frames            $75
Vacuum trunk switch                  $25
Taillight lens and some housings  $15 ea

1970

Tail light lens (Cutlass)            $12 ea
Tail light lens (Supreme)         $15 ea
Nos fender script "Cutlass"      $30 ea
Nos Horn Contact (sport wheel)      $20 ea
Nos 442 emblem sets (both sides, front tooth and trunk lid)  $225
F85 fender script         $30 pr.
Ashtray Doors                                $10
Dash Plaques (Plastic around gauges W/ wood grain)      $20
70-72 Cutlass wagon dash pad  Black (No Vent Holes)   $150
Conv. Visors w/mirror pad BUT no mirror  Black           $50.pr.
455 heads E casting                       $150
Convertible Top Switch                  $60
Convertible Top switch Bezel          $25

1971 & 1972

442 Grills good condition (with 442 emblems)      $200
Auto Console (Tan)                                           $90
Nos headlight frames(plastic)         $75 pr.
Front bumper directional lens         $10 ea.
Tail light lens                                 $12 ea.
71-72 Rocker Chrome good/c            $60 a set
T handle  (that opens hood)                   $10
Ashtray Doors                                            $10
Dash Plaques (Wood Grain area around gauges)  $10
71-72 sport mirrors w/brackets                                        $60
Seat belt shoulder harness,   plastic hangers                   $15.pr.

Shipping is extra
Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
1970 442 Convertible
1970 Cutlass W- 31 4 gear
1970 Rallye 350
1970 Cutlass Convertible ( 13.4 et)

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 11:08:27 EST
From: Knightvd@aol.com
Subject: Re: A question about milling

In a message dated 98-02-07 18:50:51 EST, you write:

<< Rotten wrote:
 >
 > My "E" heads are out being milled as we speak.  The shop is going to take
 > .050" off the bottom.  Anyone know if I will need to mill my intake to
 > compensate for this?  If so, how much?

 >Heh heh.  We coverred this a couple years back.  I'd posed the same

I had my "J" heads milled .060 " about a year ago.  In order to get everything
straight you need to mill the intake as well.  My Dad did the millwork, we
took some off the head sides of the intake, I can't remember how much, but
when you do the geometry I think it comes out to something less than the
amount you mill off of the bottom of the heads.  (I think 1/ root of 2).  If
someone else doesn't reply, let me know and I'll check into it further.  To be
perfectly accurate you also need to take some off of the bottom of the intake,
but with the squishy rubber gaskets you can probably get away without it.

Also, to correct the valve height I found washers that I used for spacers
below the rocker carriers, again, I can't remember what the thickness was off
hand, more geometry.


Vince Knight
71' Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 11:55:45 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Vote For Jason

Hey Jason,
Why didn't you tell us your car was in the interactive car show???
Here's the URL
http://auto4world.com/interactive-car-show/showrooms/showroom2.html
Vote for Jason, he's getting wiped out by just about everything else.
Let's win another for Olds!!!
- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 11:59:59 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Ertl '69 442

Just checked out the Ertl home page.  According to it, the black '69 442
has been discontinued.  Grab 'em while you can.
It did not say the '69 H/O was discontinued though.
- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:04:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 67 Delta Custom parts car

Hey, finally have in possession the new parts car.

1967 Delta Custom 4-door Holiday.

Weird, rare body style. Custom taillites in the rear bumper. Lots of very
pretty trim. Remote LHMirror. Good front end, grilles, etc. 425-2V high
compression, of course. Switch Pitch? TH400. PWindows, PSeat I think. No radio,
does have original antenna. The "Delta" scripts are VERY nice shape. Could even
be a whole car again. Runs & drives as is, front end has been taken off. Tilt &
tele. can't recall if had AC or not. Probably.

Anyone need parts from such a beast, or interested in making a car out of it?
The lower 2-3" is pretty rusty, main problem that stalled former owner was
rusted lip where front inner fender liner attaches to fender. I have those in
rustfree form on a '68 car. Easy weld repair.
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 12:09:38 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: Re: '76 production totals

Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

> Trevor,
>
> I wish that I could help, but I only have figures up through 1975.  I'm
> certain that someone else has what you want tohough.
>



> >Lloyd, would you (or anybody else) happen to have the production ªs for the

> >'76 Cutlasses (don't need the whole Olds lineup).  It'd be much
> >appreciated.  Thanx!!
> >--
> >Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech

No probs, Lloyd!  Thanx anyways.  Ok then, I'll throw this out to everyone else
"listening":

Does ANYBODY out there have the production figures for the '76 Cutlasses???  
I'd
much appreciate it if someone could post it!  Thank you!  Have a good day.  :)
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:10:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Got red buckets, NOS wheel covers

From the latest parts car previous owner comes also...

GM AM/FM 8-track player with flip-in dial where the tape slides in, condition
??, make an offer.

Red bucket seats, look good at first glance, have not seen them opened up yet,
appear to be pre-'68 [no release button, metal lower pieces]. Entertaining
offers, inquiring as to desirability. not that many red interiors- low demand
and low supply. Price ?? About the usual.

NOS wheel covers. In the package, from GM salvage. Some shelf wear, tiny
microscopic cracks were evident in the 2" center plastic cap of the one I
looked at real close- shelf wear? Presumably 14", crossed spokes, nice center
cap with red rocket. Set of 4. Entertaining offers, inquiring as to
desirability. Figure that $200 would not be unreasonable. Don't make me sell
'em to Ron Memmer so yo can pay even more later.

- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:15:18 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: motor testing

   Yes you can, I test all my motors that I sell this way, You must ground the
motor to the negative side of 12volt source and one of the two wires that come
out of the motor will move it up or down when put on the positive side of the
12volt source
=============

Yep, it's OK to hotwire 12V motors with 12V to test/ run them to the position
that you need. One note, though, most reversible motors are
permanent-magnet type, have 2 input terminals. You do not need to nor will it
help to ground the motor frame. To run the motor, you apply 12V to the two
motor terminals; to reverse the direction, you simply reverse the +/- wires wrt
the terminals. That's what your switch in the door panel does.

Can't believe that NOBODY wants any of them seat actuators I offered up.
Reversible 12 linear actuators for the price of shipping. Move 2-300ª just over
2" in about 4 seconds. Or, linkage will move less force further, etc.

- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:15:39 EST
From: TERMO1L@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hoods

Jim

I just found out that the f85 deluxe and the 442 had the same hood is that
true?

Mike

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:20:19 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: block drain petcocks

Chuck has already pointed out their location; nice idea is to replace the
9/16" headed plugs with some drain petcocks (1/4" NPT fitting, I believe);
makes draining the engine easier. May have to bend the ears on the fitting
for clearance.
==============
RS offers a fine solution to this. After much searching, I have found a source
for a very small petcock with a 90 degree 3/8" hose outlet. Fits the Olds block
nicely, clears stuff, convenience factor or nearly unity [estimated 0.94]. You
just slip a 3/8" line over each nipple, open the valve, drain them into a pan,
5 minutes, no mess, no fuss.

Drawback- kinda expensive, I have to pay nearly $5 each, so I must charge $10
the pair. However, they are SO neat that even I, a notoriously cheap
individual, sprang for them for my car.

I also offer replacement standard plugs with the 9/16" wrench size if yours are
muffed up, for cheap. I dunno, $1 a pair? I think they are cad plated steel,
might have some brass ones.

- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:29:24 EST
From: TERMO1L@aol.com
Subject: Distributer help(desperate everbody please help)

Okay guys heres the scoop.  My 330 is freshly rebuilt all installed.  I put
the 1st cylinder at the top( I think) set my timing to roughly 7.5, put in my
dist.  pointing the rotor at 1.  The car has no exhaust just manifolds because
I took the exhaust off.  Now I need to get the car to the exhaust shop.  I
started the car and it started but was popping pinging and shaking all over
the place.  I don't know how to properly turn the dist. housing.  If I turn it
too much it won't start too little same thing.  It is obviously hard to tell
with the loud exhaust but what could be wrong?  How do I get it to be timed
right.  All this timing stuff is new to me.



MIke

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 12:46:53 -0500
From: johnbouy@webtv.net
Subject: VSO???????

 My father-in-law recently purchased a house in which an old man had
lived alone for several years and had recently passed away. Left behind
in the garage is a 75 Cutlass S.
  This car has only 35,000 miles and has a very solid body and like new
interior, it still sits on its original uniroyal tires. It is equipped
with a 350, automatic, air cond., swivel bucket seats, vinyl top, pin
striping, rubber bumper strips, rally wheels, and has decals on both
front fenders and trunk lid saying "VSO" underneth the Cutlass badges.
  What is this car? Nobody around here seeems to have heard of VSO. Is
it rare? Is it worth anything? Please help.

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:11:52 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: scribes & picks

I use one of those double ended scribes that came in the 5-pack specialty
tool bag from Sears.  (the sac with the antenna magnet, dentist mirror,
scribe, and two crew starters).  Anything that's bent 90 degrees at the
tip and is skinny enough to get in at the four corners will do.  I've had
the piece off many times and never broke it.
=================
I had the pleasure of having my teeth scraped the other day. The hygienist, who
happens to drive an Aurora, was kind enough to supply me with about a dozen
used dental picks. All I had to do was ask. Very fine quality, stainless steel,
somewhat dull [probably not very useful for DIY tooth cleaning!], very
serviceable for mechanical use. Best part: the prece; free. Big stick.
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:15:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: mtn o' heads

Subject: A mountain of olds heads
 I have access to a hugh cache of Olds heads. They were bought em from Lubrizol
circa 1970.  I'm going on Friday to root thru em.  I'll be looking for "F" "D"
and "H" heads... are there any other castings worth a good buck or is that the
only 3?   Ken
===================

Depends on price.
$5 each: any & all.
$50 each: Any letters in the word F*CKHEAD, and sbs' pre-8.
$500 each: F, H, or D.
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:19:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: smog motors defined

The heads vary from 77 to 80 CC's.  So if you want compression, you can mill
the heads .060 saftly as long you are using roller rockers.
I milled a set of Ga heads .060 and after porting and polishing, I have now
74CC's.
Not bad for a pair of 72 smog heads.
===================
I would not call a '72 motor a smog motor. No egr, right? I dunno, you could
argue that the low compression makes for smog-era I guess. I consider the
'-73-up J head motors the real smog dogs.
- --------------------------------------------------
For example, about two weeks ago at a local junk-yard there was a
intact 72 Delta 88 with a 455.  I could have picked up those heads for $25
each (CAN).
==================
Grab any & all Ga heads you can get at that price! The '72 Ga heads should have
the larger exhaust valves. Should be a noticeable boost over J heads though not
from an increase in compression. Chamber size is nearly the same.
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:22:22 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: head & blocks avail.

From: AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com
Subject: Re: heads & blocks available, mid-MI

In a message dated 98-02-02 00:56:17 EST, you write:

<< There's a guy near St. Johns, MI who used to be a rebuilder. Selling his
large stash of heads, blocks, etc. cheap. I looked over the pile a yr or 2 ago,
found a K head, not much else. A few 455 blocks, of which I have plenty
already.
  >>

Any D or H, heads
================
Oh, yeah, lots of 'em. I didn't think they were worth the $5 each he was
asking. Cast iron is only worth about 5c/lb- a 50 lb head should go for $2.50
max. How else can you make money on them?

;-)

- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:25:50 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: C heads avail.

Subject: Re: Big Block "C" Heads
In a message dated 98-01-29 01:52:04 EST, you write:
<< Hey you BB Smackheads,
        I have a pair of "C" BB heads that need to be redone.
        I will accept $150.00 for them.
        They are not cracked, they just need to be redone.
======================
Heck, I have a set of C heads available. Cheap. Small valve. $20 the pair. They
do have some pieces missing. nothing that some JB weld or brazing rod won't
fix. Cut about 1/4" on the xst surface so that divider is flush. Definitely
"need to be redone."
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:30:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: spring rates

I would like to get a 1 to 1.5 inch shorter look
with a possibly 20% stiffer ride for handling ( I realize that this may not
be possible if I cut stock springs).
================
Curiously enough, the equation for spring rate includes the number of active
coils. Fewer coils = stiffer spring. So, by removing 1.5" worth of coils you no
only lower the car that much, but you stiffen the spring by a percentage = to
the % of active coils that you removed.

"Active" means not touching other coils usually. That's why those insertable
coil spring spacers work so well. They need not be jacked out to max distance
to be effective- just to touch the next coil and not fall out when stretch is
maxed.
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:43:49 -0500
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Wanted 73 - 75 Cutlass Coupe

This guy I know is looking for a 1973 - 1975 Cutlass Coupe to restore.  His
name is George, and he lives in the greater Boston area.

Please respond to him privately at:    n1elc@hotmail.com


RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.
1995 Achieva S
See them and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell/

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 13:44:39 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: I need production totals

M. Slocum wrote:
>
> Thanks, Lloyd! This list is great! I've decided to take just one problem at a
>

Yeah, Lloyd, thanks! You must have some nifty little book, right?


- --
**********************************
Matt Cremean
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**********************************

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 13:47:32 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: NEED A CARB!

My '71 442 needs a new carb (q-jet). If you have an extra, please e-mail
me.
The threads at the the opening where the fuel filter goes are stripped
out.  Since this is part of the casting,  I don't see how if can be
fixed.  Of course, I could be wrong.  If I am, tell me how.
- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

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* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:12:51 -0500
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: 76' Production totals

This isn't complete but it's all I have.  (Hope it helps even a little)

1976 (W-29 option)

Model  G-37,  Cutlass S hardtop coupe  =  9,576


================================================
RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt. >         See them and 44 other Olds' at:
1995 Achieva S  >         http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell/

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:39:37 EST
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: VSO???????

It was common back in those years for a group of dealers or a regional zone
office to put together a package of options on a car and market it in that
area using a special name and badging. Sometimes there was an incentive from
the factory in the form of a reduced price on the option package, sometimes
not. And, some dealers would, and still do, make "special edition" packages to
promote a particular car line or model.

For example, when the 442 was not renewed for 1981, I took about a half dozen
Cutlass Calais's from our dealership inventory and painted the hood, deck, and
wheels gold to simulate the '80 442 package, and affixed 442 emblems to the
sail panels in place of the Calais wreath emblem. They were very popular, and
it seems that we sold them very quickly.

So, I suspect that the VSO Cutlass you have found is something along this
line, made by a dealer or a group of dealers to promote the Cutlass back in
'75. I don't recall any factory option that existed that would be even close
to what you have described.

Jon Wessel

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 11:52:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Joe Padavano <joe_padavano@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Trunk Stipes

>Joe, I was not aware the Rallye 350 had the "chevelle" type stripes
>too.  All the ones that I've seen just had the thin stripes outlining
>the trunk lid (on the quarter panel tops).  Am I missing something?  I
>haven't seen one, but that doesn't mean it wasn't available. Hmmm.
>Learn something new everyday.

>Mike Rothe

Sorry about the misinformation.  You are correct, Mike, the Ralley did not
have the trunk stripes; these were only used on the Pace Car.  Unfortunately I
wrote that after a long flight from Vancouver to Boston, so I was somewhat
"out of it".  Thanks for the correction

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:59:50 -0500
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: Hoods

Nope.  The F-85 Deluxe has the Cutlass spear, the other base F-85s don't.

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com
http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

- ----------
> From: TERMO1L@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Hoods
> Date: Sunday, February 08, 1998 12:15 PM
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> I just found out that the f85 deluxe and the 442 had the same hood is
that
> true?
>
> Mike

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:15:40 +0000
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: TOWING??

I am things of buying a small travel trailer or popup camper.  I was
wondering if my
86 Cutlass would be able to tow it or should I plan to use the F-350 and
just get a bigger camper.  The car has the 307 auto O/D and 2:56 gears.  Has
any one used there
Olds to pull a camper?  Let me know  your thoughts on this.  I dont want to
mess the car up.

Thanks
Clarence
86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
San Antonio

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 15:24:47 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Lansing Video from Doug Newman

I finally watched my copy of the "Bad Dawg" video and I think it is great!  I
was only able to be there until the caravan parade on Wednesday afternoon and
didn't see anything but the beginnings of the Hurst/Olds lot, the museum, and
the caravan parade.  Man, there were some beautiful cars there!  And what a
great video!  The transition effects are great and the music selections are 
very
appropriate.  Well done, Doug!

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|__    ________|
|\ \  / __  __/Jason Adcock|
| \ \/ / / /CS Major, Virginia Tech|
|  \  / / /mailto:jadcock@vt.edu|
|   \/ /_/http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/|
||
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 15:30:23 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Vote For Jason

Kurt Heinrich wrote:
>
> Hey Jason,
> Why didn't you tell us your car was in the interactive car show???

Why didn't you guys tell me?  8-)  Seriously, I was in there a while ago, but
didn't think I'd show up again.  I've never heard from them at all, so I didn't
think anything was going to become of it.

> Here's the URL
> http://auto4world.com/interactive-car-show/showrooms/showroom2.html
> Vote for Jason, he's getting wiped out by just about everything else.
> Let's win another for Olds!!!

Yeah, uhh, vote for me!  8-)  From the looks of the standings, it doesn't seem
like there are too many G-Body fans out there.  Hmm.

Thanks for pointin me out, anyway!

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|__    ________|
|\ \  / __  __/Jason Adcock|
| \ \/ / / /CS Major, Virginia Tech|
|  \  / / /mailto:jadcock@vt.edu|
|   \/ /_/http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/|
||
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 14:36:27 -0800
From: Michael <mbs2@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Subject: Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question

     Tom,

       I recall reading that old Old's diesels make fantastic starting points
for very strong gas motors.  The picture that remains in my mind is one of
traditional Olds interchangability in the areas of exhaust, engine mounting
specs, and basic block design, with the idea being that with a change of heads,
intake & pistons you get a four bolt bottem end and other such heavy-duty
advantages in your gas motor.  The details are fuzzy however.  Anyone?
       At any rate, it would make sense to see some interchangability with 
these
covers you describe too, so I'd expect them to fit.  Good source info!

     Regards,
     Michael

Tom Lentz wrote:

> I was under our '78 truck today tightening up the driver's side exhaust and
got a > good look at the dual exhaust.  It's got an Olds 350 with true 2" duals
all the way > back.  It has a cover on the pass side which takes the place of
the "plug" you just > fabricated, and from what I've heard these covers are
almost made of unobtainium. > Since the truck has one, and it was converted 
from
a diesel, I was wondering if maybe > diesel trucks would be a good source for
these covers?  Since diesels don't have a > throttle and run wide-open all the
time, it would make sense that they'd have really > good exhaust systems. > >
Tom Lentz > tlentz@ior.com > >

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 15:45:44 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Vin question/opinions on plug wires

If my six digit number is 305002, does that mean that is was number
205001 to be built that year?

Also, what are the best aftermarket plug wires to get? Accel 300+, MSD
Heli-Core, Moroso BlueMax, or Taylors, which ones are good?
Car: 320/350/th350/3.08 daily driver w/ HEI and MSD ignition.

Thanks!
- --
**********************************
Matt Cremean
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**********************************

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:52:59 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition Trauma

> Hey Folks,
>
>         I'm having a problem that I believe is with my ignition.  I just
> installed a brand new Mallory Comp9000 distributor and ProMaster Coil
setup.
> It ran just beautifully for a couple of days, but now doesn't idle.  It
will
> run at rpm > 1000 or so, but never really feels or sounds right.

John
1 Question  - are you running through a resistor before your Mallory?
If you are and I think you are, your problem may be a common one that had
even affected me for quite a long time before I figured it out.   Many
people when the change their ignition to a performance type, still use the
factory power lead that use to go to the coil.  This wire is a resistor
wire cutting the voltage to the coil  down to (I think) 9 volts. Many
people have run this resistor wire into to there Ballast resistor which
cuts the voltage down around 3 - 6 volts.  This voltage will still run your
car but VERY poorly.
If you have a volt meter check the voltage going into the coil it should be
9 - 10 volts for idle.  if not check the voltage into the ballast resistor
it should be the full 12 - 13 volts. if it is not look carefully at the
wire you are using it will have writing on it saying resistor wire.  Change
your wire and all will be fixed.

This happened to me I ended up having to run a regular wire from my fuse
block instead of the resistor wire.  Running my car at improper voltage for
so long burnt out my Ballast resistor a cost mistake I won't want to see
happen to someone again.

Hope this helps

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 14:54:12 -0800
From: Michael <mbs2@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Subject: Re: Ignition Trauma

   John,
       If the distributor you put in is brand new, are you sure it even has
dwell adjustment?  From what I understand everything after '74, and especially
high performance distributors, are of the HEI type, soooo....that's one
question.
       Another possibility could be that somehow, in adjusting the gap, you
crushed down the lead resisters sometimes found within spark plugs.  If you
didn't press down on the top point of the plug when bending the overhanging
metal tab to adjust the gap, however, this is unlikely.
     That's all I can think of right off, sorry...except, new high output
ignition systems can burn through old wires fast, so you may wish to replace
those if you havn't already.

    Regards,
    Michael



John Ramsey wrote:

> Hey Folks,
>
>         I'm having a problem that I believe is with my ignition.  I just
> installed a brand new Mallory Comp9000 distributor and ProMaster Coil setup.
> It ran just beautifully for a couple of days, but now doesn't idle.  It will
> run at rpm > 1000 or so, but never really feels or sounds right.
>
>         I changed the plug gap (from .04 to .034) and it would idle, but
> still fluctuated. So I continued to gap down (to .03) at which point it
> would no longer idle.  I have now gapped it back to .034, but of course it
> still doesn't run right.  I find it curious that it would be so sensitive to
> plug gap, especially in such a small range.  So I checked the dwell and
> found that it was only 15 degrees.  Can this be right?  It is awefully low.
>
>         With the dwell being this low, I'd like to adjust it (to about 30),
> but to this point I haven't been able to figure HOW to adjust dwell.  I
> called Super Shops, and they don't believe that it can be the module, an I
> couldn't find a dwell adjustment when I took apart the distributor.
>
>         I checked timing and all, which was fine, and I couldn't see that
> anything had shifted within the distributor.
>
>         Does anyone know how to adjust dwell on these things?  Or any other
> thoughts as to what might be wrong?  Thanks alot!
>
> John Ramsey
> '69 Cutlass 'S' 455

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:59:15 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: '76 production totals

> From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: '76 production totals
> Date: Sunday, February 08, 1998 12:09 PM
>
> Does ANYBODY out there have the production figures for the '76
Cutlasses???  I'd
> much appreciate it if someone could post it!  Thank you!  Have a good
day.  :)
> --
> Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
> 468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
> http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
> mailto:lee@mergetel.com
> Welland, Ontario, Canada
>
Cutlass S hardtop Coupe            -       59179
Colonnade Hardtop Sedan          -       34994
Cutlass Supreme hardtop Coupe -       186647
Colonnade Hardtop Sedan          -       37112


Hope these help you trevor

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
1970 442 Convertible
1970 Cutlass W- 31 4 gear
1970 Rallye 350
1970 Cutlass Convertible ( 13.4 et)

>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:11:09 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Sad day for me

The day started well.  I got my convertible out for the first time this
year, was nice to feel real power again but the nice sensation was far to
brief as this was my last time driving the ragtop with the 455.
This afternoon I started the process of tearing out the Drag train and
prepare to put the big 455 to a long slumber till the next car is built and
ready to go (probably end of the year).
Oh well the rag top will be a nice driver agian with its stock 350 and 3.23
gears back in her.  But I will miss the suprised look on the faces of so
many when a 1970 Cutlass Conv. launches with the front tire coming off the
ground and just blows the doors off most street toys.  At least I have her
on video to remember the good old days.

Next car to get the drive train will hopefully be my Rallye 350, but thats
a long time form now.

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
1970 442 Convertible
1970 Cutlass W- 31 4 gear
1970 Rallye 350
1970 Cutlass Convertible ( 13.4 et)

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 03:16:01 -0600
From: "Jim and Pat Juon" <jimpat@netins.net>
Subject: email address of chris brown witt

trying to contact chris by email.  Is this correct:  wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

jimpat@netins.net

53 super 88 2dr (was in Bridges of Madison  Co.)
79 Delta 88 4dr diesel

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 16:23:29 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Hoods

At 12:15 PM 2/8/98 EST, you wrote:
Mike

        Yes that is true.

Jim

>
>
>Jim
>
>I just found out that the f85 deluxe and the 442 had the same hood is that
>true?
>
>Mike
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 16:34:44 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

At 12:48 AM 2/8/98 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-02-07 22:09:51 EST, you write:
John

        I'll accept your offer on the AM/FM for the 67. $200.00 plus
shipping, which should be around $7.00 or so.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts
(757)474-0869

>
><<
> >>
>67 amfm radio. I would be interested in your amfm radio if the price could be
>brought down to 200. I am struggling to put the car together. I'm sure you
>know how it is. Please consider this offer.
>
>Thank you-John Palmquist
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 16:16:59 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: Distributer help(desperate everbody please help)

At 12:29 PM 2/8/98 EST, you wrote:

>with the loud exhaust but what could be wrong?  How do I get it to be timed

>right.  All this timing stuff is new to me.

>

>

>

>MIke


Fine tuning of the timing has to be done with the engine running- at least to
some extent. Even with the loud exhaust you can kinda feel the motor smooth 
down
and start to run steady. There is going to be a little popping w/o an exhaust.
Just turn the dist one way or the other until you feel it smooth out.


Double check the firing order.. Also make sure their going the right direction.
I had to put a dist on my car right after doing a friends chevy. I put all the
wires on clockwise instead of counterclockwise - started but ran like crap,
still amazed it started...Took me two hours to figuire out too..


Good Luck, personally I've done way to many distributors in my life time..






T. H. Shires81 C/S/B Rckt 350

mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu


<bold>University of Oklahoma

</bold><italic><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>Aerospace
Engineering

</color><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Mechanical Engineering

</color></italic>

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 17:39:32 -0500
From: Rotten <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Need a race cam for your 455?

FOR SALE:

All stuff is by Comp Cams and brand new never used for 455.  The prices were
verified thru Summit Racing today.

ª42-656-5     .600/.593 265/276@.050 106 lobes solid lifter camshaft   145.69
ª813-16         Solid lifters for above
cam                                                  69.95
ª950-16         Orange strip triple valve springs for above cam
134.39
ª740-16         Steel retainers for above
cam                                             57.99
ª611-16         Valve locks for above
cam                                                29.95

Thanks a 437.97 value! hehe

Take it all for $350 + shipping

Ken
olds442@en.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:06:58 -0500
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Distributer help

Mike, did you make sure the piston was coming up on the compression stroke?
Rotate the engine and put your finger over the spark plug hole and feel when
air comes out, that's the right time to put it at top dead center.  If it
was coming up on the exaust stroke, it would be WAY off and possibly to the
nasty things you describe.

- -greg


.  I put
>the 1st cylinder at the top( I think) set my timing to roughly 7.5, put in
my
>dist.  pointing the rotor at 1>
>MIke

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 18:23:49 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: Center Caps for Ralley Wheels

I've got the 15" Olds Ralleys on my '76 Cutlass (are those the SSIIs or
SSIIIs??) painted the same colour as the car.   The center cap with the
logo in it also has a background that's the same colour as the car (a
very deep, dark red).  I'm just wondering if that is the standard colour
for these center cap backgrounds or does that colour change with the
colour of the car they came on?  Is that colour easy to change if
necessary?  I'm probably going to pick up a set of these caps
eventually, but I want to know ahead of time if it's going to take some
work in fixing this colour before I use 'em.
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 19:33:53 -0800
From: "David, Terri and Rob" <hoagie@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: VSO???????

johnbouy@webtv.net wrote:

>  My father-in-law recently purchased a house in which an old man had
> lived alone for several years and had recently passed away. Left
> behind
> in the garage is a 75 Cutlass S.
>   This car has only 35,000 miles and has a very solid body and like
> new
> interior, it still sits on its original uniroyal tires. It is equipped
>
> with a 350, automatic, air cond., swivel bucket seats, vinyl top, pin
> striping, rubber bumper strips, rally wheels, and has decals on both
> front fenders and trunk lid saying "VSO" underneth the Cutlass badges.
>
>   What is this car? Nobody around here seeems to have heard of VSO. Is
>
> it rare? Is it worth anything? Please help.

   it stands for "very special olds" I remember when these came
out...don't really know about the production figures....wish i had more
info for ya......hoagie

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:43:27 EST
From: AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com
Subject: Re: '73-'75

im looking for a few small goodies. For a 74 cutlass s outside trim around the
opra windows they are triangle windows in the quarters, also need the rubber
inbetween the rear bumper and trunk. Thanks for any  help

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 16:46:33 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: '73-'75

I have a friend who's *closer* to the high desert yards and he is a
musician so he has time during the day to go scout through them.  The
Arizona yards (the metropolitan ones at least) KNOW they're sitting on a
good deal and price accordingly.  Now there may be some far flung yards who
aren't as aware of this fact, but I don't know of them.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 19:55:17 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question

I did a similar thing, except I fabricated a 1/4" steel cap and bolted
it onto the passenger side exhaust manifold that recieves the cross over
pipe. It cost nothing.  Some suggested that I weld it on, but doing so
*could* render the exhaust manifold useless if I should ever choose to
put single exhaust back on the car. That cap would have to be removed
with a torch.

- -Loris

Michael wrote:
>
>      An ol fav of mine:
>      For any who can't spring for headers right off, this idea may also be
> helpful; 1. take off the cross-over pipe; 2 cut the end that goes to the
drivers > side manifold off and , useing a hammer & vice, crush down the pipe
coming off of > it (make sure you leave enough pipe attached to the end to do
this).  Then take > this piece and have its crushed seam welded at a local
station (5 bucks)--the > result is a plug that can be used where the crossover
used to connect with the > drivers side manifold.  Then just run a second
exhaust pipe back from the > passanger side manifold (buy and have shaped at an
off-brand muffler shop, very > cheap) where the crossover used to connect.  Add
the muffler of your choice and > wala--duel exhaust on the cheap, and ya get to
talk about how ya kept stock > exhaust manifolds.  :-) >     Regards, >
Michael > > JohnMonnin@aol.com wrote: > > > I have a 69 Cutlas 350 with a
turbo 400 trans and I am looking at buying > > headers later this year.  Since
the original trans was removed by a previous > > owner I am no longer worried
about originality. > > So I wanted to start a debate on which headers fit best.
My only header > > experience was with my buddies 73 dart.  We through away the
blackjack headers > > he bought because they fit crappy and bought a pare of
Hooker Super > > Competitions, which fit well. > > > > What headers has 
everyone
tried on their cutlas's and how did they fit.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 19:52:43 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Vote For Jason

Jason, you got my vote.  Still registers 0.0% in the standings.  C'mon
folks, lets "RALLYE" round the Oldsmobile!!!!

Mike Rothe

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 17:12:31 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Oust charcoal/Kids!

Wait until your kids get older - then they'll just roll their eyes at your
or look horrified when you suggest that indeterminate color '64 will one
day be their first car!

The twins love the Toronado though - they picked it out of all the others
to be crazy about.  What kids!!


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 17:15:24 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: 67 Delta Custom parts car

What color is that tilt/tel wheel set up?  I have the dark gold (looks like
a wierd dark greenish brown color to me but i was CORRECTED on it several
times) and mine has a small crack in it.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:43:00 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: 67 Delta Custom parts car

  where do you live, a friend could possibly use some parts for his delta

 olds guy ga....

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 20:47:37 -0500
From: Kevin Hoopingarner <khooping@bright.net>
Subject: 70-72 OAI Breather Assembly Identification

All,

I have a '70 -  '72 OAI breather assembly being sent to me via UPS.  I
was wondering if anyone can tell me if there's anyway to confirm the
authenticity of the breather once I get it.  Are there any numbers
stamped into the breather base or any numbers molded into the top
section or the flapper door??  Any help would be appreciated.

Kevin Hoopingarner
'70 Olds 442 W-30
Findlay OH.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 98 20:51:04 -0400
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Headers For Sale...

Greetings fellow Oldsnuts...

I have placed my Hooker Competition Headers on eBays auction site on the
WWW. I have placed a picture of these on the auction site. Take a look
for any who are interested in a absolutely MINT set of Hooker Comps. for
the small block... These Hookers, by the way, have a BRAND NEW Ceramic
coating that rivals the performance and look of Jet-Hot, FYI.

Here is the address:
http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5845469

By the way: I still have a Edelbrock Performer RPM for a 350. Price is
$150, firm. Have had several interested parties but no money seen yet...




Michael R. Hall: OCA ª17903                    Ortonville, Michigan
Hall Communications, LLC.
E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net

1972 Cutlass S : 1987 '88' Custom Cruiser : 1998 Silhouette GLS 4-Door

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 98 20:51:06 -0400
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Miscellaneous...

1) Just a note to say that we have just brought home a new Olds. A 1998
Silhouette GLS, 4-door. A luxury barge for the wife and all the amenities
that anyone could ask for... Very happy with it so far aside from the
HUGE sticker shock! The 91' Eighty Eight was traded in since the
maintenance curve was darn near vertical. Things that needed repair
included the transmission, belt tensioner, water pump and harmonic
balancer. Things that needed replaced were tires, brakes and exhaust.
With 145,000 miles on the car, it was the ORIGINAL exhaust. Tires wore
very well, it was only on it's second set. Highway miles really do help.
Brakes were totally inadequate, even with highway driving, could only get
30,000 miles on a set...

2) Anybody out there spray there intake after bead blasting to protect
that clean aluminum look? Let us know what you have used?

3) Anybody out there have the new phone number for Karl Sarpolis of JWO's
"Karl's Korner? He has moved and I need to pick up his "Firewall
Conversion Plate".

Regards,
Mike


Michael R. Hall: OCA ª17903                    Ortonville, Michigan
Hall Communications, LLC.
E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net

1972 Cutlass S : 1987 '88' Custom Cruiser : 1998 Silhouette GLS 4-Door

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 19:49:03 +0000
From: "M. Slocum" <mslocum@shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: TESTING

Test - mimimimi, uuuuuu

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 21:17:02 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: more on 67 D88Cstm pcs car

Wow, what a find on the 67 Delta Custom "parts" car.

While not rustfree by a ways... the doors open & shut solidly. Taillites look
OK, decklid is great. Has *working* AC, and.... the 425's been rebuilt! No
wonder she runs so well. This should be a car again. Anyone feel like adopting?
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 21:45:38 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: The "Olds"-Files

The main protaginist(?)  in tonight's x-files is driving an 86 or 87
Cutlass.

Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass S convertible
OCAª 29770
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 20:59:35  -0600
From: Al Frey <alpha1@airmail.net>
Subject: Boxed Lower Control Arms

Anyone willing to part with a set of G.M.boxed lower control arms please let
me know, also a rear sway bar.
72 442
71 442

Al Frey
alpha1@airmail.net

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:09:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Casteel <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Still having e-mail server problems??

What's the deal?  I get maybe 30 e-mails a day when I used to get in excess
of 70.  I recently inquired about several car related things which have
gotten no response, very uncharacteristic.

Maybe the problem is MY server.  If any one receives this, please e-mail
directly to me with your thoughts about the e-mail problem.

Thanks,


C. Casteel
earthsci@usit.net
(931) 645-8008

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 23:20:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: cylinder ridge

>is how much of a ridge is too much (it is not large at all).  I am not

Usually any discernable ridge is too much. Piston-wall clearances are
measured in .001" increments, so if you can feel it, you probably have to
bore and hone it.
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If you can feel it, make it go away. They make a nice device to do just that,
about $30 for a good one. Cuts just the ridge away. If you don't remove the
ridge, the rings can hit on it, esp. during a high speed and/or high temp run,
and break off the lower ring lands, break the rings, score the cylinder, etc.
- --
Chris Witty, cross-dressing Olympic speed skater :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 23:24:14 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: H/G heads, engine ID

I'm looking for H & G also.  Drop me a line if you gots!!  Good hunting..
Ulysses Melen
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Has the number 03582xx stamped on the oil fill tube.  The engine color is a
light blue (under the grime and rust).

What else do I need to look for and where do I need to look?  I'm curious as
to what this engine came from and if it's one of the mild or hotter 455s.
earthsci@usit.net
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I have G and Ga heads. Maybe even one big-valve G head.

Blue motors were '70-72 I think. The light Blue. Also the early Toros, which
yours is not. the 0ªªªªxx means 1970, so should have E heads.

Agian, the VIN stamp on the block front left corner, and the carb & dist'r ID
would best help peg the engine's original application.
- --
Chris Witty :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 00:01:03 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Oil Pan Gasket Replacement

Howdy everyone.

I took my Cutlass in this weekend to get the oil changed.  Now, please don't
harp on me too hard!  I had no time this weekend and it was free with a coupon 
I
had.  Besides, I was 400 miles over the 3k mark, so I wanted to get it done
ASAP.  Anyway, 8-) the place said that my oil pan gasket is leaking severely 
and
they wanted over 200 bucks to replace it.  They said that you have to lift the
engine up, and on the Olds small blocks (BB also?), there is a front exhaust
cross-over pipe that must also be removed.  I believe all this, and I believe
that it is leaking, but I've never lost oil.  I was under the car the first day
I got it (almost 3 years ago) and the bottom the oil pan was black and sludgy,
like there was a leak, but I think a severely leaking oil pan gasket would 
leave
oil on the ground when parked.  I check the oil level often, and I'm never low.
I'm just so impressed with my little 307.  The only problem so far has been the
aluminum intake gasket (in the front, like everyone else's!).

Okay, my real question:  is this on any real concern?  I'd take it to my usual
garage to have it done, and if I had extra money, I'd to it because it does 
look
like it's leaking, but I don't think it's as bad as $200!  Has anyone else had
problems in this area?  Again, I will get it done if it looks like to be a 
major
problem, but it's been this way for 3 years at least, and no one's ~ever~ said
anything.  Is this shop just yanking my chain?

Thanks for sticking with this long post!

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:05:15 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Lighting Rods

On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Tracy H. Shires wrote:

>
>
> I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get all the parts necessary to
convert to the lighting rod shifter..I saw one the other day and I just have to
have em!!! > > > Thanks, > Hey Do you have an AOD trans?  > > > > T. H.
Shires81 C/S/B Rckt 350 > > mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu > > > <bold>University of
Oklahoma > > </bold><italic><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>Aerospace >
Engineering > > </color><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Mechanical
Engineering > > </color></italic> >

Ray since the car is running perfect, the stereo stopped working Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 00:35:14 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Vin question/opinions on plug wires

Matt Cremean wrote:
>
> If my six digit number is 305002, does that mean that is was number
> 205001 to be built that year?

That's right.  All plants that year started serial numbers at 100001.

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:10:41 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: G-body bucket seats needed.

Hi all,

I am looking for some bucket seats from an 80's Salon.  Grey is
preferable, until I find out approximately how much it costs for a
reupholstering job, then grey will be necessary.  Anyone who has such,
please let me know.  I can give away my bench seat, if it is desired for
some reason.

Oh, and if anyone happens to have a console from a 70-81 Firebird or 73-81
Camaro, I'd like to purchase that too.

Thanks all!



Ray changes water pumps more often than oil Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 00:16:15 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: Re: 76' Production totals

RC Hellebuyck wrote:

> This isn't complete but it's all I have.  (Hope it helps even a little)
>
> 1976 (W-29 option)
>
> Model  G-37,  Cutlass S hardtop coupe  =  9,576

Thanks RC!!  Any figures are better than no figures at all!!!  :)
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

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