
oldsmobile-digest    Wednesday, December 31 1997    Volume 01 : Number 1035



Undeliverable Message
403 VS 455
Undeliverable Message
Re: 80' Cutlass Supreme
Undeliverable Message
Re: 80' Cutlass Supreme
New Radio for Cutlass
Undeliverable Message
Undeliverable Message
'73-'77 455 A-Body Headers
Re: plug change record
Re: thanks
Re: hello
Re: Matchbox Hot Wheels
taillights and assembly for sale
[Fwd: Re: Info needed] Second submittal
Re: Back!
Re: 425 pistons into 400 'E' block?
Re: (youngeter's retort) Re: sounds
403 Build up
Re: (youngeter's retort) Re: sounds
Re: 403 Build up
Fiber optics for center console
Re: WAs -Re: Tranny stuck in drive!!- NOW- Shifter cable is   melted!!!
Re: Tranny stuck in drive!!1
What's it worth
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Re: Back!
Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR
Re: 403 Build up
Re: Back!
Re: New Radio for Cutlass
Re: New Radio for Cutlass
A/C Air Manifold
New E-mail Service
Re: Back!
My Web Page updated
(Fwd) My Web Page updated
Inept/Misguided Repairs (was Re: plug change record)
Nickname (was Re[2]: engine ID by VIN)
Re: A/C Air Manifold
Found C hds, 350 N crank
Re: Inept/Misguided Repairs (long)
Re: Inept/Misguided Repairs (long)
Parts for Sale
Happy New Year
1970 W-32?
Happy new year
Re: Happy New Year
FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

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Kathy Gerschutz wrote:
> 
> I would like in the future to put in a 403 sb.  When looking for these I should look for a "K" as the 5th digit right?

That's right.

> But on my VIN "K" is also the fifth digit, and it has the 231.  I
> think all g-body calais's have "K47" as the fifth, sixth, and seventh digit. 

That's right, too.

> My VIN is: 2G3AK47A6C2389539.  This does not make sense to me, could someone please clear this up.  Thanks.
> 
> Joe

Joe,

The 403s were used from '77 to '79 when GM was using a 13 digit vin
system.  In 1981 the vin system was changed to 17 digits and the
information was moved around.  The engine code was moved to the 8th
position.  In your case its an A, which happens to be the 231 six.  It
just happens to be a coincidence that you're looking for a K engine and
you have a K model (not a K car, as that would be a Chrysler!).

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:24:55 -0600
From: "Samuel E. Johnson, Jr" <cutlass403@ameritech.net>
Subject: 403 VS 455

I want to build an olds 403 for my 71 cutlass. The reason is because
that is my favorite motor out of all  of the Olds motors. My Mechanic
says build the olds 455 because of the weight of the car. What do you
think?
Can I get at least 500 foot pounds of torch out of this motor (olds 403)
and also at least
400 horses.

Thanks for you help


Sam Johnson

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I want to build an olds 403 for my 71 cutlass. The reason is because
that is my favorite motor out of all  of the Olds motors. My Mechanic
says build the olds 455 because of the weight of the car. What do you
think?
Can I get at least 500 foot pounds of torch out of this motor (olds 403)
and also at least
400 horses.

Thanks for you help


Sam Johnson

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:41:21 -0600
From: "Samuel E. Johnson, Jr" <cutlass403@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: 80' Cutlass Supreme

I've got a 1971 oldsmobile Cutlass S with a 350 2-barrel.

Paul Hartlieb wrote:

> Robert F. Newbegin Jr. wrote:
>
> Now, Bob, don't go and get sensitive on us, but I'd like to point a few
> things out...
>
> > The first number (3) is the 'Manufactuer's identity
> > number.  This means nothing.
>
> It absolutely does mean something.  Anything with a 3 in the vin or on
> the body plate is an Oldsmobile!  And that means alot!  All GM divisions
> have a different number, starting with Chevrolet and working up to
> Cadillac.  If it were a 1 it would mean nothing :)
>
> > The sixth digit (A???) is the last number of the model year
> > (this makes no sense on your VIN.  Did you type it in correctly?)
>
> This was true from about '65 or '66 up until '79 for GM.  Not all
> manufacturers had their year code in the same place.  The government
> stepped in in '80 and required all vins to have certain information in
> certain places.  For '80, the letter A was assigned to the 80 model
> year, and the letter increased every year after that, with the exception
> of I,O,Q and U.  '98s are Ws.  Don't know what they're gonna do when
> they run out of letters.
>
> > (Olds never made a 350 with a 2-barrel.  Chev. did.)
>
> I'm not even gonna take you back there, you got pounced on enough
> already for that one...
>
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hartlieb
> Myerstown, PA
> mailto:plh@nbn.net
> '67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
> '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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I've got a 1971 oldsmobile Cutlass S with a 350 2-barrel.

Paul Hartlieb wrote:

> Robert F. Newbegin Jr. wrote:
>
> Now, Bob, don't go and get sensitive on us, but I'd like to point a few
> things out...
>
> > The first number (3) is the 'Manufactuer's identity
> > number.  This means nothing.
>
> It absolutely does mean something.  Anything with a 3 in the vin or on
> the body plate is an Oldsmobile!  And that means alot!  All GM divisions
> have a different number, starting with Chevrolet and working up to
> Cadillac.  If it were a 1 it would mean nothing :)
>
> > The sixth digit (A???) is the last number of the model year
> > (this makes no sense on your VIN.  Did you type it in correctly?)
>
> This was true from about '65 or '66 up until '79 for GM.  Not all
> manufacturers had their year code in the same place.  The government
> stepped in in '80 and required all vins to have certain information in
> certain places.  For '80, the letter A was assigned to the 80 model
> year, and the letter increased every year after that, with the exception
> of I,O,Q and U.  '98s are Ws.  Don't know what they're gonna do when
> they run out of letters.
>
> > (Olds never made a 350 with a 2-barrel.  Chev. did.)
>
> I'm not even gonna take you back there, you got pounced on enough
> already for that one...
>
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hartlieb
> Myerstown, PA
> mailto:plh@nbn.net
> '67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
> '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:00:54 -0600
From: senator@itis.com (Robert F. Newbegin Jr.)
Subject: Re: 80' Cutlass Supreme

Paul Hartlieb writes:
>Now, Bob, don't go and get sensitive on us, but I'd like to point a few
>things out...
>
>> The first number (3) is the 'Manufactuer's identity
>> number.  This means nothing.
>
>It absolutely does mean something.  Anything with a 3 in the vin or on
>the body plate is an Oldsmobile!  And that means alot!  All GM divisions
>have a different number, starting with Chevrolet and working up to
>Cadillac.  If it were a 1 it would mean nothing :)


You are correct, Paul, but if you are working on your Oldsmobile and
writing to the Oldsmobile mail ring, and you aren't sure it's an
Oldsmobile, something is very wrong.   :¬)

Bob
'78 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:00:21 +0000
From: tcjmiami@ix.netcom.com
Subject: New Radio for Cutlass

I am considering installing a new radio in 1970 Cutlass S 
convertible.

This car is my daily driver and I would like to get a modern radio if 
possible and practical.

I have a couple of questions.

1. Does anyone have first person experience with Custom Autosound's 
products, and if so what was it?

2. Do I have any other options short of an original radio?

3. Is there a dealer in the Miami area for these radio that install 
them for me? I HATE DASH WORK


Tom Johnson
1970 Cutlass S Convertible

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I am considering installing a new radio in 1970 Cutlass S 
convertible.

This car is my daily driver and I would like to get a modern radio if 
possible and practical.

I have a couple of questions.

1. Does anyone have first person experience with Custom Autosound's 
products, and if so what was it?

2. Do I have any other options short of an original radio?

3. Is there a dealer in the Miami area for these radio that install 
them for me? I HATE DASH WORK


Tom Johnson
1970 Cutlass S Convertible

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Paul Hartlieb writes:
>Now, Bob, don't go and get sensitive on us, but I'd like to point a few
>things out...
>
>> The first number (3) is the 'Manufactuer's identity
>> number.  This means nothing.
>
>It absolutely does mean something.  Anything with a 3 in the vin or on
>the body plate is an Oldsmobile!  And that means alot!  All GM divisions
>have a different number, starting with Chevrolet and working up to
>Cadillac.  If it were a 1 it would mean nothing :)


You are correct, Paul, but if you are working on your Oldsmobile and
writing to the Oldsmobile mail ring, and you aren't sure it's an
Oldsmobile, something is very wrong.   :+)

Bob
'78 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:18:52 -0500
From: evans1@serv01.net-link.net
Subject: '73-'77 455 A-Body Headers

Hey,

Does anyone have any good experiences with any header make on 455 headers 
for '73-'77 A-Bodies?


Mike Evans
Richland, MI
evans1@net-link.net

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:31:21 -0500
From: Todd Morris <toddmorr@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: plug change record

Uh, this strikes me as a totally hellacious way to travel a long distance.  I
hope there was a good reason why this Caddy was simply not abandoned roadside
and you found other means to get there....

Todd Morris
71 442

> I drove for about 4 days straight the first part of the trip, changing 2 to 4
>?plugs every 2-3 oil stops [80 miles, or every hour or so]. For about 1500
>miles. Plus a couple of full-plug-set swaps.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:49:29 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: thanks

Jeff,

I'm pleased that the mirror is what you wanted.  Taking care of myself is an
important part of my behavior.  Thanks for reminding me though and you do
the same.  Happy New Years!

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible



>  bill,got the mirror today..it's almost like x mas..got the mirror and the
>jwo same day
>
>   took guts out and put into another shell i had...someone glued it in...
>
>  have another set located that will hold me for a while,as i need another
rh
>gut for a
>a rh shell,and a few parts for a Lh... thanks....pleasure dealing with
you..
>
>  be careful newyears eve want to see you on here agai  jeff......
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:47:12 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: hello

AARONLIFE wrote:
> 
> in the shop.  Amazing how difficult it is to get your car fixed when you're
> not at fault!

Amen to that!  I still haven't seen a dime from my insurance company.  I
am
doing all of the repairs myself.

Chris Sparks

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 23:39:29 -0500
From: dilligaf@tl.infi.net
Subject: Re: Matchbox Hot Wheels

 I saw this listed on the ebay auction site and thought it might be what
you're looking for.  Just go to this URL.


http://iguana.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3426352


Larry

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 21:12:09 PST
From: "chris smetana" <chris@abcs.com>
Subject: taillights and assembly for sale

I have the following for sale:

1966 cutlass - passenger rear taillight assembly, complete - has a very very light crack in lense  $40

1967 cutlass supreme - complete set of taillight lenses  $50

I'm also open to any offers on the above.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
chris@abcs.com

1969 Cutlass W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car - some parts for sale
plus others

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:09:10 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Info needed] Second submittal

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Hi all,

Well I finally got the 68 442 in for repairs.  Looking at $1200 to fix
frame and do rear quarter panel, no paint.  The body shop manager was
telling me how he needs my rear bumper to determine how much to
pull on the frame to get it right.  I thought to myself, I am sure
someone has specs on chassis dimensions.  I need to know how far apart
is the frame in the back, near where the exhaust hooks up?

A side note:

Today I had to get out and move my other cars around, city requirement,
when an eerie occurence happened.  I had to get another tire for the
spare 442 I have (from junk yard) to replace the one going flat.  Well
I thought I got too high a tire since the car was tilting to one side.
the wierd thing is that I had shut the door after I started it and 
heard a creak/popping sound.  Startled me since I didn't know what it
was.  Well when I eyed the car as I was leaving to drop off the 
damaged 442, It wasn't leaning anymore.  Strange....

Later...

Chris Sparks

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:10:44 EST
From: BIG JERMES <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Back!

In a message dated 97-12-30 11:42:13 EST, you write:

<< i can get 10 with my 71 cutlass with a pontiac 400 big block but i can get
 there real fast lol . keep all thoses olds running :) >>

um, pontiac big block?  i thought all pontiacs were the same sized
blocks.....?

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:41:33 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: 425 pistons into 400 'E' block?

At 09:16 PM 12/30/97 EST, you wrote:
Peter

        NO WAY! The E block can only be safely bored .100. That's all. The
cheapest way to go is get STD 350 pistons and bore the engine .057. They
work great. You can even get the flat top W-31 pistons and have it the same
as the originals. I've used these before with excellent results.

Jim Chermack

>Saw an ad for some 425ci pistons for sale. These are ~4.125 bore. Can My '67
>400ci 'E' block be safely bored to accept these pistons?
>
>peter
>CoupeKing@aol.com
>LA Cal
>

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:34:12 -0700 (MST)
From: bhorn@tnc.com (Beverley Horn)
Subject: Re: (youngeter's retort) Re: sounds

>Shayne,
>I'm glad to hear of another "Younger" olds fan.  I'm 19 and also have an 85
>442.  Unfortunately, for the mean time, it is my only car.  How about yours?  
>
>Matt
>
>Matt,

Acutally, I also have a 1970 Rallye350 that I am restoring. The 85 442 is my
other.

Shayne Horn
1970 Rallye 350
1985 442

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:55:56 -0700 (MST)
From: bhorn@tnc.com (Beverley Horn)
Subject: 403 Build up

To Everyone:

I was just wondering if anyone could give me some ideas on a 403 build up. I
want to get more power and tourque from my 403 but have an extremely tight
budget. Could someone recommend a good performance package of parts for a
403 under $500? Something that will give me a noticeablr difference.!! 

Thanks,

Shayne Horn
1970 Rallye350
1985 442

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 03:35:12 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: (youngeter's retort) Re: sounds

- -----Original Message-----
From: Beverley Horn <bhorn@tnc.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1997 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: (youngeter's retort) Re: sounds


>>Shayne,
>>I'm glad to hear of another "Younger" olds fan.  I'm 19 and also have an
85
>>442.  Unfortunately, for the mean time, it is my only car.  How about
yours?
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>Matt,
>
>Acutally, I also have a 1970 Rallye350 that I am restoring. The 85 442 is
my
>other.
>
>Shayne Horn
>1970 Rallye 350
>1985 442
>
>Heheheh
I am  also  only 21 years old........and my car is the huge 73 Delta 88-
bonus here is it has a Rocket 455...and i drive it every
day,unfortunately...
causer it puts lots of wear in the car.
But when it goes, boy does it go!

Erik

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 02:20:36 -0800
From: Todd Evans <tevans@infiniteweb.com>
Subject: Re: 403 Build up

>To Everyone:
>
>I was just wondering if anyone could give me some ideas on a 403 build up. I
>want to get more power and tourque from my 403 but have an extremely tight
>budget. Could someone recommend a good performance package of parts for a
>403 under $500? Something that will give me a noticeablr difference.!!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Shayne Horn
>1970 Rallye350
>1985 442

I have an Edelbrock Performer RPM aluminum intake manifold for a 403 that
would help you.  It's brand new, still in the plastic.  It came with the
car I bought, but I don't need it.  $150 or best offer.  E-mail me if
interested.  Thanks.  tevans@infiniteweb.com

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 07:17:38 -0500
From: Aaron D Eoff <sheep542@mindspring.com>
Subject: Fiber optics for center console

Where can i find this particular item?? Its the fiber optic lead thats
attached to the shifter slide. While dealing with my recent tranny problems
via the center console i noticed it is completely gone.

TIA

AAron Eoff

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 07:25:21 -0500
From: Aaron D Eoff <sheep542@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: WAs -Re: Tranny stuck in drive!!- NOW- Shifter cable is   melted!!!

At 12:45 PM 12/30/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>in drive. Took back to the mechanic and he found the new cable has
>>completely melted, in effect, welding itself to the sheath. MAybe its my
>>fault because i did not re-install the center console and reattach the
>>center console ground wire to the shifter base.
>>
>>My question: Is that the problem or could any open circuit or loose ground
>>cause this problem? ANy ideas where to look for the culprit?
>>


>The culprit is under the hood.  Your engine ground strap is
>broken/dirty/not functioning any more.  This means that the current that
>normally flows from the alternator ground to the negative battery terminal
>via the engine ground strap now flows through your shifter cable, causing
>it to overheat.  On my 72 VC I have 2 ground straps, a thick one from
>underneath the alternator (bolts directly to the block) and a small one
>from the back of the cylinder head on the pasenger side to the firewall.
>My bet is that your main engine ground strap is FUBAR and you need to
>replace it before you get another shifter cable.  The good news is that
>this is a fairly simple operation, the bad news is that you need another
>shifter cable.
>
>Erik Nowacki

A local mechanic has ordered a new shifter cable that won't arrive until
next week. In an effort to solve my grounding out problems he would like to
not only repair the faulty engine ground strap, alternator ground, etc.. but
would like to create some new ground points. Is this safe?? Is it really
necessary?? I need to tell him one way or the other so please let me know.

Thanks for the info!! Wow what a LIst!!!

AAron D Eoff

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 07:28:24 -0500
From: Aaron D Eoff <sheep542@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Tranny stuck in drive!!1

At 08:07 PM 12/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Aaron D Eoff wrote:
>> In particular the shifter handle on the center console has been
>> very hard to push or to pull into gear. Anyway yestrday morning i was able
>> to with much effort put the car into drive and thats where it been since;
>> stuck in drive with the key stuck in the ignition.  
>
>Sounds like the old, grounding-via-shifter-cable routine.  Sometimes,
>the ground between the engine and body/frame deteriorates or is
>non-existant.  One of the common things that happen is that the shifter
>cable then becomes the ground.  Current will actually pass through the
>cable, and while I'm no electrical engineer to completely understand and
>explain this process, I do know it will foul up the cable to sheath
>after a while.  I had that happen on my 71.  I found the  broken
>grounding strap behind the passenger head, replaced it and the cable,
>and it's been happy shifting ever since.
>
>Now for the bad news:  new cable time!
>
>2 cents
>-- 
>Mike Rothe

Mike could an open heated back glass circuit cause the grounding out problem
also???
Just curious.

AAron D EOFf

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 07:32:55 -0800
From: Ingmar Ott <iao2@cdc.gov>
Subject: What's it worth

I need to get a feeling of what this car is worth, so when I offer it
for sale, I know about where to start.

The Good:
- ---------
1977 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
Black Paint with Black Interior (Cloth seats with Vinyl trim)
Gold Stripe with 442 in Black on Gold

350 Rocket (VIN Number "R")
350 Turbo
3.42 Posi traction rear end
Console Shifter
Power Steering
Tilt Steering
Cruise Control
A/C

Original Radio in Dash, Sony AM/FM/Cassette under dash with Joystick
next to shifter
Speakers in factory locations only, no extra cuts

New hoses, vacuum lines, belts
New Waterpump
New Power Steering Pump and Pulley
New Timing Set
New Thermostat
New Sending Units
New Fan Clutch
New Master Cilynder
New Brake Pads Front
New Brake Pads Read, Drums rotated

New Edelbrock Performer (#3711) Aluminum Intake
New Edelbrock 795 cfm Quadrajet Carburator w/ electric choke (#1904)
New Reed Cam (mild - balanced for torque and gas mileage) would have to
look up specs again.

New Dual Exhaust
New Hedman headers
New Catalytic Converters (2x)
New Flowmaster Mufflers (2x)
New 2.5" Tubing (2x)

New K&N air filter/chrome element

Transmission just rebuild w/ shift kit
Rear end (3.42 posi) just installed
Carb/intake just installed


The Bad:
- --------
Was unable to find correct 442 grilles.  Currently unsing the up/down
grilles from a 76 model
A/C compressor works, but no refrigerant in system.

The Ugly:
- ---------
Rear bumper has a rust hole in it (Bumber came from a different car)
Driver side seat has small tear in the vinyl
Driver door strap missing
Driver door does not open from the inside (the pin for the handle broke)
Works from the outside though.
The 4 plastic spacers between the bumpers and the quarter panels are
wither missing or severely dry rotted and cracked.

Notes:
- ------
No rustholes in body.  Full size spare, tires still full of tread.  SS
wheels (black with the trim ring SSII I think, but would have to look it
up).  Paint is ok, but could stand a new paintjob.  Small aftermarket
tach on steering column, can get Ralley Gauge pack.  Also have original
window sticker and manual.  All receipts for work done on car as well as
parts bought.  Car drives great, on regular gas (87 octane) but I
usually run medium grade.

Well, there it is.  Any specific numbers (cam or options) I can look up
on request.  Let me know what y'all think she's worth.  

Car is in the Atlanta, GA. area.


Ingmar Ott
iao2@cdc.gov

'77 Cutlass 442
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:56:07 +0000
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR

I would like to wish everyone on the list and their families a HAPY NEW YEAR.
Have a safe and fun holiday, I would like to see every one make back to the
list after the New Year.:)


HAPPY NEW YEAR  I'll see every one back hear next year.:)
Clarence
86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
San Antonio

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 06:59:32 PST
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Back!

>
><< i can get 10 with my 71 cutlass with a pontiac 400 big block but i 
can get
> there real fast lol . keep all thoses olds running :) >>
>
>um, pontiac big block?  i thought all pontiacs were the same sized
>blocks.....?
>

All Pontiac V8s (1955-1981) are basically the same size on the outside. 
Pontiac did not have a big block or small block. You will sometimes hear 
people refer to 421's, 428's, and 455's as big blocks. They are 
referring to the crank journals as these three engines had larger ones 
than the rest. The 400 was small journal.

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:06:05 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR

Clarence & all,

I know this sounds like "me too", but I can't help wishing everyone a happy
new year also.  This may be the year of peace on earth - or at least on the
list.  Many thanks to all my friends for this wonderful last year.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


.
>
>HAPPY NEW YEAR  I'll see every one back hear next year.:)
>Clarence
>86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
>San Antonio
>
>

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:29:14 -0600
From: "Samuel E. Johnson, Jr" <cutlass403@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: 403 Build up

I had a 1980 Cutlass with a 403 stuffed in it. It ran 13.60s stock with street
tires,  well semi stock. I had it rebuild stock with molly rings eldobrock
intake 3711 comp cam (I believe the one with the 433 lift and 262 duration).
Also I ran a 650 dual feed double pumper holly carb I ran dual 2.5" flow
masters, 350 trans with shift kit and no stall. ( with stall I would burn up in
the gate). And a 3.73 rear end. with that combo I beat almost every chevy on the
west side of chicago and ford mustangs couldn't stay there either. Believe me
with a light body and the right gear, you can't lose with a 403. It came stock
with 185 horses and 320 lb. of torque.
They called me the green machine from Ogden and Kosner.
Beverley Horn wrote:

> To Everyone:
>
> I was just wondering if anyone could give me some ideas on a 403 build up. I
> want to get more power and tourque from my 403 but have an extremely tight
> budget. Could someone recommend a good performance package of parts for a
> 403 under $500? Something that will give me a noticeablr difference.!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shayne Horn
> 1970 Rallye350
> 1985 442

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:38:44 -0600
From: "Samuel E. Johnson, Jr" <cutlass403@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: Back!

All oldsmobiles should have an olds in it :  ). especially when it is a
cutlass.

Brent Pinkstaff wrote:

> >
> ><< i can get 10 with my 71 cutlass with a pontiac 400 big block but i
> can get
> > there real fast lol . keep all thoses olds running :) >>
> >
> >um, pontiac big block?  i thought all pontiacs were the same sized
> >blocks.....?
> >
>
> All Pontiac V8s (1955-1981) are basically the same size on the outside.
> Pontiac did not have a big block or small block. You will sometimes hear
> people refer to 421's, 428's, and 455's as big blocks. They are
> referring to the crank journals as these three engines had larger ones
> than the rest. The 400 was small journal.
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:00:30 -0800
From: mefco@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: New Radio for Cutlass

Tim,
If you would want your original radio in your dash, there is a guy in Dallas 
that converts your original radio to stereo. This is a recent change in 
modifying old radios. I just had a 72 am radio converted to stereo and it really 
sounds good. Cost is a little high, like $350. If anybody is interested I will 
supply the name and number.

Art Fuller
mefco@sprynet.com

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:16:26 +0000
From: tcjmiami@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: New Radio for Cutlass

> Date:          Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:00:30 -0800

I would have considered this however the radio in my car is not 
original. The radio is from a later car with a narrower spacing on 
the control knobs.

> Tom,
> If you would want your original radio in your dash, there is a guy in Dallas 
> that converts your original radio to stereo. This is a recent change in 
> modifying old radios. I just had a 72 am radio converted to stereo and it really 
> sounds good. Cost is a little high, like $350. If anybody is interested I will 
> supply the name and number.
> 
> Art Fuller
> mefco@sprynet.com
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:38:34 -0600
From: "John C. Ramsey" <jramsey@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: A/C Air Manifold

Hey Folks,

    My '69 Cutlass 'S' was orginally an air conditioned car.  At some
point, someone took it upon themselves to remove the compressor,
disconnect the heater, and gut most of the interior ducting.  I just
completed the heater core replacement and am now reassembling the
system.

I have managed to accumulate most of the parts I need, with the
exception of the air distribution manifold.  This is the plastic piece
that bolts to the front of the heater box and delivers air to the dash
vents.  I even have all of the dash vents and their plasic nozzles...I
just need the manifold to direct air to them.  It is possible for me to
make one, though I would much rather have an original style piece.  Does
anyone know a company that might reproduce this part?

Thanks,
John Ramsey
'69 Cutlass 'S' 455

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:48:13 -0700
From: Tom Starkey <tstarkey@uswest.net>
Subject: New E-mail Service

Hi Greg:

I just got a new e-mail service and I think I screwed up my subscription
on the list. My correct E-mail address should be tstarkey@uswest.net

I had posted a question to the list on transmissions and I noticed you
had to post it as "bounced", any chance I could get the replies to that
message re-sent?

Sorry for the trouble.

Tom Starkey

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:15:25 PST
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Back!

Hey,
This is something I replied to!
The tech crap at the bottom was my only contribution.
MY Oldsmobile has an Olds motor, not a Pontiac!
(my Pontiac has a Pontiac engine though) :-]

Brent Pinkstaff
'70 Cutlass S - Rocket 350



>
>All oldsmobiles should have an olds in it :  ). especially when it is a
>cutlass.
>
>Brent Pinkstaff wrote:
>
>> >
>> ><< i can get 10 with my 71 cutlass with a pontiac 400 big block but 
i
>> can get
>> > there real fast lol . keep all thoses olds running :) >>
>> >
>> >um, pontiac big block?  i thought all pontiacs were the same sized
>> >blocks.....?
>> >
>>
>> All Pontiac V8s (1955-1981) are basically the same size on the 
outside.
>> Pontiac did not have a big block or small block. You will sometimes 
hear
>> people refer to 421's, 428's, and 455's as big blocks. They are
>> referring to the crank journals as these three engines had larger 
ones
>> than the rest. The 400 was small journal.
>>
>> ______________________________________________________
>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
>
>


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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:33:23 -0500
From: "Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician" <krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us>
Subject: My Web Page updated

Hi all, just wanted you to know I re-designed my web page, and was 
hopeing you would check it out and let me know what you think, has a 
few automotive links, pics of my Cutlass,pics of me, ect. I would 
like to get any automotive links relating to oldsmobiles or your 
personal web/olds sites to put on there, so, if you could send me the 
URL, I will be more than happy to add it to my page. Thank.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Krumwiede - MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Phone (815) 235-6121
Fax (815) 235-6130
Home Page http://www.highland.cc.il.us
Mailto:Krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:35:08 -0500
From: "Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician" <krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us>
Subject: (Fwd) My Web Page updated

huh, huh huh, can you tell I havn't had coffee yet?....Here is the 
url to my web page.

http://www.angelfire.com/il/mikeblahblah/index.html

- ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From:          Self <MIS/KRUMWIEDE>
To:            oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject:       My Web Page updated
Date:          Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:33:25 -0500

Hi all, just wanted you to know I re-designed my web page, and was
hopeing you would check it out and let me know what you think, has a
few automotive links, pics of my Cutlass,pics of me, ect. I would like
to get any automotive links relating to oldsmobiles or your personal
web/olds sites to put on there, so, if you could send me the URL, I
will be more than happy to add it to my page. Thank.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Krumwiede - MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Phone (815) 235-6121
Fax (815) 235-6130
Home Page http://www.highland.cc.il.us
Mailto:Krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:11:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Inept/Misguided Repairs (was Re: plug change record)

I can relate to this one... I have just completed yet another coolant
change on the Delta in not quite 5 months. The saga: 

1. Scary-looking coolant in the thing when I bought it, so decide to 
flush it out.

2. Flush must have forced out some stop-leak because heater core springs 
a leak. Replace heater core, lose some coolant, add more.

3. Heater hose develops a leak. Decide all hoses must be pretty 
questionable, replace same. Lose more coolant, add more.

4. Rad develops a leak at lower hose connection due to overly 
enthusiastic tightening of clamp and/or twisting off of old hose. 
Inspection reveals rad is shot. Replace rad, replace coolant that is lost.

5. (Last night) Driving home in rain, upper rad hose comes off (!) 
radiator. Must not have been installed properly. Barely make it home in 
cloud of steam, somehow engine does not overheat. Decide to look on 
positive side; will give me a chance to remove heater box in attempt to 
find pesky water leak under dash. Do so, find no obvious place for leak, 
reseal/replace everything, replace coolant.

Real fun out there in the wind and cold today. :( I am driving somewhat 
gingerly right now. Some cars do not seem to appreciate the care you give 
them!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:14:16 -0500
From: Ray Moriarty <rmoriarty@blairinc.com>
Subject: Nickname (was Re[2]: engine ID by VIN)

At 10:32 PM 12/11/97 -0500, Joe Padavano wrote:

Snippage

>     Whoa.
>     
>     Someone has apparently confused my description of the engine ID number 
>     with Soggy Ray's question about...
           ^^^^^^^^^

LOL! Now, I had been wondering if a distinction was needed between me and
the other Ray on the list. If there ever comes a point where a distinction
is necessary this might be the way to go. To the best of my knowledge I
have never been known as soggy, all wet maybe, but not soggy. ;)


May the new year bring you peace, prosperity and lots of Oldsmotoys!

Ray
Alex. VA
'70 Cutlass Conv.
'70 442 Conv.

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:19:09 EST
From: W30442CS <W30442CS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: A/C Air Manifold

john, i have 69 parts cars, email me if your interested in any parts,  both
have a/c.              steven.       w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:50:32 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Found C hds, 350 N crank

Had a chance to get to the scrap metal dealer today... found a '68 or '69 350
block w/ innards... was gonna pass on it when I noticed it has a Nodular crank.
Anyone interested? Make an offer. Presumably needs a grind.

Checked the big pile out back... finally found a big block w/ C heads, no
valves in 'em. Decided to grab the C's, only to find that they had only 2 bolts
each, and what with the banging up the motor got, the heads' dowel pins were
knocked loose. Dang. The block... a 425... with LARGE lifters [modern cam bank
angle].... but no main caps. :-(

I left the whole schmear there. Had a #400269 water pump on it, too.

On the better note, cleaned out the basement metal, and picked up an electric
winch and a screw-action car jack, for scrap prices. Looks like a hydraulic one
only way lighter and powered by hand or impact wrench. Killer day all things
considered. The guy even threw in a nice piece of titanium.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
         >>> Please snip the excess lines from posts <<<

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:02:59 -0800
From: "Joseph Keith McCall" <jkmccall@cablelan.net>
Subject: Re: Inept/Misguided Repairs (long)

Thanks Greg, had a little mishap myself recently.  I moved recently from
Quebec to British Columbia.  Both have pretty stringent vehicle inspection
requirements.  So I took my 82 Delta 88 RB in and it didn't pass the first
time, one brake drum below spec and a bad motor mount.  Mechanic quotes me a
price for parts and labour and I think I can do it cheaper.  Bonus is I had
lots of time off from work, shouldn't take too long.  Order the parts,
pretty reasonable, change the drum right in the NAPA parking lot.  Drive the
car over to my wife's Aunt and Uncles, they let me use their garage when I
work on my vehicles.  Get the book out and start what should be about a days
job, max.......

1)  first problem, jack the car up and put it on stands.  Look at offending
motor mount (drivers side) and don't think I can get at it with the exhaust
cross over there.  Decide to remove it, shouldn't be a problem, had it off
last year.  SNAP a bolt off....

2) no problem, just means the exhaust manifold will have to come off to be
able to extract it.  Of course have to take the cross over off on the other
side......  SNAP another bolt off........  (soaked them before hand but
still no go), chiza (phonetic).  Ok, so the other manifold has to come off
too....

3)  Take the manifold off on drivers side, punch and drill a hole for the
extractor.  Insert extractor, lots of lube, little muscle, doesn't seem to
be working.  Start thinking maybe I should bring it to a shop that has heat,
should come out alot easier that way, SNAP, flange breaks off with threads
nicely seated around extractor.   My french is coming back to me.

4)  Go to take the manifold off on the pass side, 1,2,3,4 bolts good, no
problem.  Last bolt, near the back of the head doesn't feel good.  Go slow,
lots of anti-seize, WD-40.  Guess what?  SNAP again.  Hmmm, I'm starting to
think maybe I should have let the shop do it in the first place.  Of course
there isn't alot of room to get at that bolt so I decide the head has to
come off.  This should be interesting, almost 300,000kms on this car and I'm
finally going to see what the chambers look like.  Spark plugs have always
shown a nice light brown.  I make a pact with myself that the broken bolts
in the head and manifold will be done in a shop.  Order a replacement for
the broken manifold from the junk yard ($75.00, dealer wanted 225.00 new).
Order gasket set for top end.

5)  Replace offending motor mount, about a 15 minute job (if that) once you
get too it.  On the old one the rubber had seperated from the metal.

6)  Clean everything up while waiting for parts to come in.  Start reading
about adjusting the valves and am pleasantly surprised that I won't have to
go through the same hassle as I did when I replaced the heads on my old chev
truck.

7)  Parts arrive and assembly begins.  No problems, follow proper torque
procedures, until I'm buttoning up the valve train.  inadvertantly place
rockers for #4 cyl on backwards (reverse valve side and push rod for both)
set torque to 25ft lbs, bridge snaps.  Schiza again.  Order part, has to be
shipped from Toronto.  Only a 3.40 part, still waiting for it.  Picked up a
used on from the junk yard 5 bucks.  Go figure.

8)  Everything is back together, car is finally inspected and passes.  No
major problelms, little exhaust leak that can wait and strange sound from
starter, I think its related to the leak.

Morale of the story is, learned alot from doing it myself.  I think I broke
even on what it would have cost me for the shop to do it.  They wouldn't
have had to order so many parts.  Actually enjoyed doing it myself just wish
I had access to better equip.  i.e.  torches for heating up stubborn bolts.
(Anti-siezed alot this time).


JK McCall

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:04:05 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Inept/Misguided Repairs (long)

> able to extract it.  Of course have to take the cross over off on the other
> side......  SNAP another bolt off........  (soaked them before hand but
> still no go), chiza (phonetic). 

Why isn't "phonetic" spelled like it sounds?

> 6)  Clean everything up while waiting for parts to come in.  Start reading
> about adjusting the valves and am pleasantly surprised that I won't have to
> go through the same hassle as I did when I replaced the heads on my old chev
> truck.

      < < < B I G  G R I N !!!   > > >

 Actually enjoyed doing it myself just wish

Ever notice?  Seems whatever your profession, ~that~ becomes the most
neglected part of your private life?  For instance, I currently install
car audio equipment for a living.  In the past, my stereo's always been
one of the hottest in town.  Now I've been driving the Toro for a couple
months with stock speakers and AM/FM Cassette.  I haven't touched my car
stereo for months.  During school, I worked as a mechanic, fully
certified and qualified, yet my car was always in more need of wrenching
than most we worked on.  When I worked as an auto detailer, mine was
always one of the dirtiest cars in town.  When I worked at a pizza place
and a taco place, my car was usually clean, loud, and mechanically
stable.  Interesting coincidence?  I guess, psychologically, I felt that
if I do something for 8 hours out of the day, the last thing I want to
do when I finally get home is the same thing.  That just makes it feel
like more work.  I went to school for advanced automotive technology,
and I absolutely love it, but there's no way in the world that I'd turn
wrenches to make my living.  Way too easy to spoil the love of it.  Put
in another perspective, (hopefully not ~too~ distastefull!) imagine how
much a prostitute actually ~enjoys~ sex!?  Fixing cars is one of my
favorite hobbies, but only when you ~want~ to do it.  It loses all of
it's luster when you ~have~ to do it.  I find, anyway.  Becomes even
worse when you ~have~ to do it, on a f*rd or ch*vy!  (Had to throw that
in there!)  

               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:31:49 -0700
From: Tim Rudolph <trudolph@frii.com>
Subject: Parts for Sale

I have a few parts I don't need anymore so if anyone is interested, let me
know.

1969 442 Grilles (pair, good condition) - $100
Lakewood Bolt-on Ladder Bars (application lists 64-72 A-Bodies) - $50
Convertible Top Motor and Cylinders (out of a '69 442) - $75
1969 Fisher Body Manual (very good condition) - $25 shipped

Tim Rudolph
trudolph@frii.com

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:19:06 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Happy New Year

To All  list members a Happy New Year
Hope all your Oldsmobile wishes come true

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
1970 W-31 4 speed

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:44:57 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: 1970 W-32?

Does anybody have production figures for these? For that matter, does
anybody know if they even existed?
- -- 
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Matt Cremean
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http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 01:07:29 +0100
From: "cb006323" <usi.con@consunet.nl>
Subject: Happy new year

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To all the members of the olds list a verry happy new year and may the =
best of 1997 be the worst 1989.
greetings from archy (netherlands)

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:35:16 -0600
From: "Samuel E. Johnson, Jr" <cutlass403@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year

Same to you my olds friend

Robert Schinkel wrote:

> To All  list members a Happy New Year
> Hope all your Oldsmobile wishes come true
>
> Robert Schinkel
> docbob@caninet.com
> 1970 W-31 4 speed

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:40:59 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

                                          C&M Classic Parts
                       1132 Chatmoss Drive, Virginia Beach, VA 23464
                                (757)474-0869, FAX (757)474-0694
                                         <chermac@exis.net>

Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm,  Sat 9:00 am - 6:00 pm,  Sunday Closed
*We accept all major Credit Cards. VISA, M/C, Amer. Express, and Discover.*
Lots of new reproduction parts will be coming out in January-March 98.

        66 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $1795.00
        67 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $995.00
        66 & 67 Track Pac kits (complete, just like the dealer option includes;
        shroud, ducts, hoses, cam/lifters, battery accessories) Mar/Apr 98.
                **** Items with an ** are 10% off thru Jan 98.
 
New Parts:
66-67 442 4 Spd. Open Air Cleaner  $40.00
75 Omega Front Fenders (very nice pair)  $180.00 pr
75 Omega Bucket Seats (nice, maroon cloth)  $85.00 pr
65-67 442 Chassis (Rolling, 12 bolt, drums, with body shell)  $325.00
66-67 330/320 hp Cutlass Engine (80,000 miles, complete, runs good)  $375.00
65-67 400/425 Steel Crank (no pilot bushing hole, std)  $180.00
65-67 425 "D" Block std bore, small lifter bore  $150.00  
350 Stick Cranks  $175.00 ea
66-67 442 "E" 400 cu in auto engine (apart, complete, std bore, nice)  $600.00
**64-67 Power Steering Bracket  $15.00
**64-67 Alternator Brackets (A/C car)  $20.00 set
**69 442 LH Grille (good cond)  $45.00
**69-72 4 Row Radiator Top Plate (nice)  $65.00 
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/o tilt)  *new*  $24.00
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/tilt) *new*  $22.00
71 W-30 "TO" Code 10 bolt 3.73:1 anti-spin (date code '352 70') mint  $650.00
75 Hurst Olds (Hurst Hatches) no bags  $195.00 pr
**70 LH/RH Hood "L" moldings (few small pits under side, nice) $95.00 pr
**70 442/SX/Rally 350 Rear Cutout Bumper (CORE)  $110.00
**70-72 Lower A/C Vents (for 8 Track car, mint, black)  $80.00 pr 
**70-72 Dash Pad and Dash Plastic (radio area, green, mint)  $185.00
**67-68 Big Cars AM/FM Stereo (nice, works well)  $75.00
**69-72  Bench Seat Headrests (black, mint)  $45.00 pr
68-72 Arm Rest Pad Bases (rear, post coupe, black)  $20.00 pr
**68-72 Rear Defrost  (no switch)  $30.00
**68-72 2 Door Chassis (coupe, solid)  $300.00 (you arrange shipping or pickup)
**69-72 Column Shift Steering Column (plain)  $45.00
**69-70 Console Shift Steering Column (non-tilt)  $95.00
64-72 Power Window Motors  (excellent cond) $50.00 ea
**70-72 455 Engine Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $40.00 pr
**68-72 350 Engine Mount (NEW, Made in USA)  $38.00 pr
**64-72 Jetaway/TH350, 4 Spd Trans Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $14.00 
**67-72 TH400 Trans Mounts (NEW, made in USA)  $17.00 ea
(6) Hurst Wheels 14x6 (5 on 4 3/4) nice  $2300.00 
**70-75 Sport Steering Wheels (black, nice centers, complete)  $130.00 ea

New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts 1964-1972 Cutlass/442

**65 Cutlass/442 PO2 Deluxe Wheelcovers (N.O.S.)  $350.00
**66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                           
**68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                       
**69 Cutlass RH Grilles (N.O.S.) $85.00 ea                             
**70 Cutlass Supreme Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
**70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
**71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr                          
**71-72 Stone Shields (N.O.S.) $38.00 ea                              
**71-72 Headlight Housings (plastic) (N.O.S.) $80.00 pr          
**72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr

Used Parts:
64 Cutlass/442                       
**64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
**RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00                                                  
**Front Bumper Core  $50.00                                                   
**F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00                                      

65 Cutlass/442
**64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
**65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  LH/RH rear $15.00 ea
65-(early) 66 Plain Full Wheel Covers (4, mint)  $30.00 

66 Cutlass/442
**64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
**66 Cutlass Trunk Molding (very good)  $85.00
**66 Cutlass Tail Light Bezels (very good)  $85.00 pr
65-(early) 66 Plain Full Wheel Covers (4, mint)  $30.00 
**66 Turbine Full Wheel Covers (4) good  $80.00 set
66 Cutlass/442 Side Chrome moldings (almost complete set) Inquire
**66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
**66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00 
**66 330 cu in 2 bbl engine (complete w/trans, 17,000 original miles)  $300.00  
**66-67 AM Radios (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
**66 Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
**Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea                                  

67 Cutlass/442
**67 4 spd Speedometer Adapter (3.42 gears & 4spd)  $45.00
67 Cutlass Plain Full Hubcaps (4, mint)  $30.00
**67 Plain Cutlass Holiday Hardtop interior door panels and rear sides (very
nice, blue/green) $85.00 set of 4
**67 Cutlass Jetaway Trans (low miles, w/switch pitch converter)  $125.00
**67 Cutlass/F-85 Grille Bar (very nice, no cracks, good chrome)  $45.00
67-69 Power Antenna assm (nice, no switch)  $45.00
66-67 Rear Side window lower U-seals (new, Metro Moulded)  $18.00 pr
**67 W-30 Core Support (Factory stamped, bent on drivers side)  $225.00
**67 Cutlass Hood (mint)  $100.00
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
**67 Rear Defrost setup (w/switch)  $45.00
**66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $30.00 ea
66-67 RH Hardtop/Conv Doors (very nice)  $90.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
**67 F-85 Rear Bumper (very good condition)  $75.00
**67 Front Bumper (straight, core)  $70.00
**67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $50.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $90.00 ea
67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $3.00
**67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $165.00

68 Cutlass/442
**68-69 Cutlass/442 Post Coupe LH Door  $85.00
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
68 Turn Signal Lens (mint)  $12.00 ea
**68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $75.00
**68-69 14x6 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
68-69 Power Antenna Assm (no switch, has adapter, needs mast)  $25.00
68 AM Radio  $25.00
**68  8-Track Unit (housing cracked, needs plastic one)  $65.00
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00              
Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set                               
68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00                     
68 Air Cleaner Stove Pipe (pipe only)  $10.00                              
**68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $40.00 ea                                            
68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea                                
**68-72 B-Pillar Molding Sets (black, mint) $27.50 pr 

69 Cutlass/442
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
**69 Rallye Pack (Gauge side only)  $75.00
**69 Cutlass RH Grille (nice, used)  $40.00
**69 442 RH Grille (nice) $50.00
**69 Cruise Control Switch and Bezel  $25.00
**69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
**69 Tail Light Bezels (nice, pit free)  $135.00 pr
**69 Trunk Lid (Conv, nice)  $175.00
**69 Headlight Bezels  $60.00 pr
**69 Lower Dash (radio area)  (nice)  $35.00
69 C/S Side Moldings (mint, no pits)  $15.00 ea
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
**69 Cutlass/442 Doors 2 dr Hardtop (mint pair)  $200.00 pr / $110.00 ea
**69-72 Hood Hinges  $40.00 pr
**69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $25.00 pr
**69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $25.00 pr
68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $45.00 set                                 
68-72 Fastback Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set
**69-72 Floor Shift Steering Column (very good)  $95.00
69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
**69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $200.00
**69 Rear Bumper (V05 rub strip) one small ding  $135.00
**69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $55.00 ea
69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $25.00 ea

70 Cutlass/442
**70-72 Rallye Pack (Tach only, works needs needle end)  $125.00
**70 Std Auto console neutral safety switch w/bracket  $65.00
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70 350 4 bbl Stick engine (complete, minus carb runs great)  $275.00
**70 FLAT Fender RH (small metal patch panel installed nice)  $300.00 
70 Cutlass Supreme Door Panels (black mint) 4 for $100.00
**70 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
**70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $115.00
70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $55.00
70-72 Std. Auto Console Shift Lens  (repro)  $23.00 ea
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea             
70 RH Sport Mirror Shell  $40.00
70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00                                    
69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00                                
**69-70 "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $25.00 pr                                        
**69-70 "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $25.00 pr
**70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr         
**70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $90.00                                  
**70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
**70-72 RH Fender (has small patch panel)   $185.00
70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens   $17.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens  $23.00 ea

71 Cutlass/442
**70-72 Rallye Pack (Tach only, works needs needle end)  $125.00
**70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
**71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
**71-72 Fender RH (small metal patch in bottom)  $185.00
71 350 4 bbl Engine (complete, carb to pan, runs excellent) $250.00
71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
**71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
**70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea 
**71 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr

72 Cutlass/442
**70-72 Rallye Pack (Tach only, works needs needle end)  $125.00
**70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
**71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
**71-72 10 Bolt 2.56:1 (open rear)  $75.00
72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00                                  
**71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
**72 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr            

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