
oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, January 29 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1077



Re: Where are all those pics
Re: 72 W30  Stencil kit
Re: 72 W30  Stencil kit
Re: Pics
More Power/Engine Availability
Re: Buying parts from private parties
Who Has Olds Centennial Web Pages?
4spd automatic swap
Re: Buying parts from private parties
anybody using a mallory distributor?
Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
64->69 Cutlass Parts for $
Re: Pulling a motor and tranny at the same time
Re: ADVISE
Re: G-body interchangeability
Re: More Power/Engine Availability
Re: Where are all those pics
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
ADVISE:CORRECTION
Re: Pulling a motor and tranny at the same time
Re: StuporBowl
Re: WI Junkyards
Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?
Re: G-body interchangeability
RE; pulling motor/trans same time
303-324 Olds. engines
Re: Repro W/Z manifolds- about time! 
Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?
Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine
wtd: 77 442 front end pcs
License Plates
Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?
Re: More Power/Engine Availability
Big Block "C" Heads
Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine
Re: Dual Exhaust on 1979 H/O
'81 Cutlass Supreme
455 in Truck?
fuel tank neck repair
where's the crank?
removal of engine/frame mounts
WANTED: 8-track housing
what's the deal with pertronix?
Re: ADVISE
Honesty - ya gotta love it.
tools
wheeler's mirrors
Re: RPTW32 specs.
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes
Re: Use of your product 104+
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine
Re: Pics
2004R Chatter
Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine
reply to "Wtd's"
Re: Underpowered!?!
pulling motor &/or trans
Re: Olds "in the movies" list
search for rolling chassis
Re: 70 W-30 conv
Re: Pics
Re: 4spd automatic swap
FORD fuel problem
Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?
G-body interchangeability with Buick
Re: ADVISE:CORRECTION
Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?
Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine
307 => 350 swap (and upgrade)

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:46:18 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Where are all those pics

We are going to get some pictures this week and will send them to you.
Thanks Coy

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> From: TERMO1L <TERMO1L@aol.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Where are all those pics
> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 10:09 PM
> 
> Come on guys I know there are more photos send them to me please

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:48:19 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 72 W30  Stencil kit

Give us a try.
We cut performance vinyl for stripes.
Are web site is engineeredgraphics.com
or email me with your request.
Thanks Coy

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> From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: 72 W30  Stencil kit
> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 9:19 PM
> 
> todd thomas wrote:
> > 
> > Hi evryone, I would like to know if anybody out there knows where I can
> > get a stencil kit for a 70-72 W30's at.    Thanks alot .   Todd Thomas
> > Clarendon,PA
> 
> 
> Try Stencils and Stripes.  Whole kit.  Don't remember how much though. 
> Ad is always in Hemming's.
> 
> Mike Rothe

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:51:55 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 72 W30  Stencil kit

Do want a stencil kit or a vinyl kit?
We use vinyl kits.
Email if interested.
Thanks Coy

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> From: todd thomas <ttjbmm@webtv.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 72 W30  Stencil kit
> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 7:06 PM
> 
> Hi evryone, I would like to know if anybody out there knows where I can
> get a stencil kit for a 70-72 W30's at.    Thanks alot .   Todd Thomas
> Clarendon,PA

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:30:39 EST
From: TERMO1L <TERMO1L@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pics

Oh I don't know what are we always talking about? Oldsmobiles.  I want all the
pics you guts have out there

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:35:38 +0000
From: "Joe Gerschutz" <gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu>
Subject: More Power/Engine Availability

While I am on the topic of more power, I was wondering if anyone knew 
of a olds 350 or 403 plus decent tranny in the NW ohio region.  I 
think there are several people from Ohio on the list and maybe you 
could point me in the right direction, such as a good salvage yard or 
a if someone has one for sale.  Thanks

Joe



- --------------------------------------------------
- ---Joe Gerschutz------------------------------
- ---University of Dayton----------------------
- ---gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu--------
- --------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:56:30 EST
From: CRuper1 <CRuper1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Buying parts from private parties

In a message dated 98-01-28 06:41:36 EST, you write:

<< 
 The only trouble I've ever had in this line was buying a set of golf 
 clubs from a guy in S.C. that I saw on the net last year. They guy seemed 
 OK and I'm still not convinced that he didn't do everything OK. But the 
 clubs just never showed up despite investigations by the post office, 
 etc., and I never got my money back. Looks like some postal worker is 
 enjoying a set of MacGregor JNPs somewhere.
 
 Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
  >>

I believe you can insure all these items to ship, for the value.  You
shouldn't have had to pay for them, and he should have chased the money down
through the insurance on the items.  I think you can also have it a
"registered" item to make sure someone signs for it when received, so everyone
knows it is there (and not maybe stolen off the porch).

Chris Ruper

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 98 13:02:37 -0500
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: Who Has Olds Centennial Web Pages?

All,
Trying to update the OCA web site along w/ writing the next installment of 
"Rockets On-Line" for JWO and thought a listing of anyone who has 
pictures/remeberances/vague memories of the Centennial in Lansing, COULD 
YOU SEND ME YOUR WEB SITE ADDRESS PLEASE!  This would be a great way for 
those who didn't get to go, feel like they made it there.  Send your web 
site addresses to BOTH e-mail addresses below if you could.  THANKS ALOT IN 
ADVANCE!

 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson (OCA's WebGuy)
| | | 1987 442 W-42
|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
| | | Oldsmobile Club of America #18984
 ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Newest Chapter of OCA
(W) brad.nicholson@ssa.gov   (H) brad442@erols.com
Personal Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442
OCC Web Page - http://www.erols.com/brad442/occ
OCA Web Page - http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:39:19 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: 4spd automatic swap

List,
	Anyone interested in doing the 200-4R swap can check out the April
High Performance *ontiac magazine..........


					The General

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:25:33 EST
From: StafRT007@aol.com
Subject: Re: Buying parts from private parties

Get him to send you the parts COD.  That way, neither one of you are going to
get ripped off.  Thats the only way I would buy something off of the internet.
It is the method I've used in the past and I haven't been ripped off yet, but
thats not to say it can't happen.  

Ryan
70 F--85

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:37:47 EST
From: BIG JERMES <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: anybody using a mallory distributor?

im thinking about buying a mallory unilite distributor from the local
supershops.  they are having some kind of sale, and i can get one for $150.
so do you guys think i should buy one, or spend it on hop ups for my hei?  i
also plan on buying a msd 6aL ignition box and performance coil.  and another
thing, the guy at supershops said his mallory 8mm wires are better than the
msd 8.5 heli-coil wires.  i think hes wrong on that one, but i can get the
mallory wires for around $45.  i think the msd wires run about $80 for a
custom set for a olds.  any ideas or suggestions would really make me feel
better about what i buy.:-)

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:56:18 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

test

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> From: mr. coy d. arbogast <coyster@earthlink.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 12:30 PM
> 
> Hello there.
> This is Coy, it will be about 10 days before our first set of vinyl
stripes
> will be ready as we are currently retooling.
> I will send you a set and some other information when they are ready.
> Also if you are interested in putting a link on our web page let me know.
> Look forward to working with you.
> Thanks
> 
> ----------
> > From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
> > Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 5:50 PM
> > 
> > At 04:58 PM 1/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
> > Ken
> > 
> >         Sorry don't have any of those in stock right now. May be
getting
> > some in near the end of the month.
> > 
> > Jim Chermack
> > C&M Classic Parts
> > (757)474-0869
> > 
> > >James and Joanne
> > >
> > >1966 post-coupe 442
> > >
> > >It wasn't on your list of parts ... BUT
> > >I am desperate to find the piece that 
> > >attaches the steering coumn to the dash.
> > >It is probably called a steering column
> > >mount bracket, support, something like that.
> > >
> > >As I was working on wiring, I happened to look up
> > >and there it was, a rusted piece of metal strap
> > >holding the steering column in place.
> > >Pa leeeez ... have a real mounting bracket.
> > >
> > >Ken Swick 
> > >
> > 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:09:07 -0500
From: "Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician" <KRUMWIEDE@mis.highland.cc.il.us>
Subject: 64->69 Cutlass Parts for $

My old man just checked out some stuff the other day, here is whats 
good up there.

69 442 Hood with ram air
69 442 Rims

63/64 Cutlass Convertible, believed to be a supreme, Hood, doors, 
Quarters, Trunk, Bumper, Grill, there was a fire in the car, the 
interior/dash is shot, but body is solid. 

The place is outside of Broadhead Wisconson, its called "Murrys 
auto yard" phone # is 608- 879- 2525 
and ask for Dale, Dale is really the only one who know's what the 
hell is going on up there. There are numerous other Olds products up 
there such as Starfires, 88, 98's, cutlasses, ect, but, this is for 
sure what I know is good, the others you would have to ask what your 
looking for. This place is kinda the junkyard that time forgot, other 
goodies up there such as 56 Chrysler and old buicks as well. Hope it 
helps. Do me a favor, if you do call, tell them Gary Krumwiede sent 
ya, My old man (Gary Krumwiede) and Dale are friends, help us get a 
discount or something if we send some buisness his way. Thanks


> Dear Mike,
>     I saw in your response to Mike Smiths Rally wheel question that you
> mentioned Wisconsin boneyards. As a Wisconsin resident and 1971 Cutlass
> owner I would very much like to know of any good Olds part sources close to
> home. Thanks for any possible leads.
> dave
> 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Krumwiede - MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Phone (815) 235-6121
Fax (815) 235-6130
Home Page http://www.highland.cc.il.us
Mailto:Krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Krumwiede - MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Phone (815) 235-6121
Fax (815) 235-6130
Home Page http://www.highland.cc.il.us
Mailto:Krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:54:09 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Pulling a motor and tranny at the same time

loris wrote:
> 
>  I pulled
> them out together before and I was left with a pool of trans fluid
> EVERYWHERE!. 

Yep, yep, yep, BEEN THERE!!!!

- -- 
**********************************
Matt Cremean
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
CreamerSoftİ Software
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
**********************************

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:23:27 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: ADVISE

>> head; very rare, very valuable. A '73 head would usually have an "H" on the
>
>This is not correct in that the 73 and up were J heads. The H head was for
the
>71 W30  Also very rare... in fact the H heads are the rarest in that the
least
>no. no W30 from 68 - 72 wew manufactured in 71.

"J"! I _meant_ "J"!!! Really, I did, I did I did! Durn keyboard keeps
switching those "H" and "J" keys on me! I jate wjen tjat jappens to me! I
hust jate it!


__________________________________________________________
Bob Barry  	     MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu

1969 Toronado		 455/TH425
     See it at http://www.execpc.com/~gkalkhof/drbob69.htm
1970 Cutlass Supreme SX	 455/TH400
1978 Electra Limited	 409/TH400

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:56:11 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: G-body interchangeability

> I was wondering if anyone's tried bolting the header panel, bumper and
> bumper filler of a newer cutlass onto a 1980 cutlass.  I was thinking of maybe swaping the nose
> and tail of my 1980 Calais for a newer car's if I could find cheap parts.
> I could bolt on the better looking (IMHO) parts.

I'd often been curious of that, too.  It ~would~ be very unique with
those 1/4 windows that way.  I think they'd ~bolt up~ just fine, but I'd
be concerned about body lines.  I don't know how much luck you'd have
there.  I'd ~always~ wanted to put the ~cool~ front end on an Olds
wagon, (with 455, etc, of course!) just to do it.  Never tried, though. 
We'd figured out that you could safely swap front clips between the
Regal and Cutlass, but I've never seen it accomplished.  
 
               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:59:46 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: More Power/Engine Availability

Joe Gerschutz wrote:
> 
> While I am on the topic of more power, I was wondering if anyone knew
> of a olds 350 or 403 plus decent tranny in the NW ohio region.  I
> think there are several people from Ohio on the list and maybe you
> could point me in the right direction, such as a good salvage yard or
> a if someone has one for sale.  Thanks

Yeah, you can have mine........$3500.

- -- 
**********************************
Matt Cremean
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
CreamerSoftİ Software
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
**********************************

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:50:51 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Where are all those pics

TERMO1L wrote:
> 
> Come on guys I know there are more photos send them to me please

Couldn't get Netscape to email back to the ~original~ sender (I ~hate~
that!!  It's soooo much nicer with clickable sig files!)  Anyway, I've
got tons of various Olds pics on my web pages.  Click below and borrow
any you want.  (It's not the most organized, but there's lots of
pics...)

- -- 
               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:03:08 EST
From: Claypol442 <Claypol442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

There is a 66 or 67 in the movie Airheads with adam sandler.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:04:53 PST
From: "john foster" <anyasbbj@hotmail.com>
Subject: ADVISE:CORRECTION

I GUESS I WAS WRONG. THE HEADS AREN'T "F"'S AND BY THE WAY YOU GUYS TALK 
I SURE WISH THEY WHERE!!! OH WELL. REALLY THEY ARE "G"' I CHECKED THEM 
THIS MORNING. DAMB.

RAY 
IF YOU DON'T MIND COULD YOU SEND ME THE INFO ON MONDELLO (OLDS 
PERFORMANCE PARTS AND EXPERTS) AND YA WELL TOYS DO COST ALOT OF MONEY 
BUT DAMB THEY ARE SURE FUN TO PLAY WITH!!!!

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:20:29 -0500
From: "Michael A. Evans" <evans1@net-link.net>
Subject: Re: Pulling a motor and tranny at the same time

This is why people hang on to old driveshaft yokes....they DO have a
purpose in life.

At 03:54 PM 1/28/98 +0000, you wrote:
>loris wrote:
>> 
>>  I pulled
>> them out together before and I was left with a pool of trans fluid
>> EVERYWHERE!. 
>
>Yep, yep, yep, BEEN THERE!!!!
>
>-- 
>**********************************
>Matt Cremean
>+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
>CreamerSoftİ Software
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
>+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
>1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
>**********************************
>
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:08:51 EST
From: KS7RACING <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: StuporBowl

Coy,

As for the number it takes to play ball in K.C.:

Same.

Takes a lot more (2 BIG ones) to race I-70 Speedway, though.
Been there, done that.

Ken Snyder
Ken Snyder Racing
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:47:22 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: WI Junkyards

Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician wrote:
> 
> 69 442 Hood with ram air
> 69 442 Rims

Mike, can I get a little more info on this hood with ram air.  The only
'69 hood with ram air was the H/O.  Easy to spot with a bolt on HUGE
scoop.  Interesting.....

Mike Rothe

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:02:57 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?

BIG JERMES wrote:
> 
> im thinking about buying a mallory unilite distributor from the local
> supershops.  they are having some kind of sale, and i can get one for $150.
> so do you guys think i should buy one, or spend it on hop ups for my hei? 

Well, that's a personal choice.  But, I've been running a vacuum Unilite
on my 71's 455 with the MSD 6AL box.  I was worried about fitting the
HEI in there with the tight firewall/air cleaner clearance.  So far,  NO
PROBLEMS after 3 years.  And OH, SO ADJUSTABLE!

FWIW,
Mike Rothe

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:31:10 -0500
From: "Jason P. Labay" <z28cfi@gwis.com>
Subject: Re: G-body interchangeability

I was thinking of maybe swaping the nose
>and tail of my 1980 Calais for a newer car's if I could find cheap parts.
>Since I'm probably going to replace the bumpers for better looking lest
>rusty specemins anyway I thought maybe with a little extra impact wrenching
>I could bolt on the better looking (IMHO) parts.    

I resent your idea, so does my 442 ...haha :-)

Jason Labay (z28cfi@gwis.com) Akron, OH  
Quality Engineer - TRW Automotive Group, Inc.
95 DCM Impala SS      80 Olds 442 W-30
85 S-10 Blazer 4x4      75 Hurst/Olds W-25

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:04:21 -0500
From: "deirdre. reilly" <102724.635@compuserve.com>
Subject: RE; pulling motor/trans same time

I'd just like to say thanks to Gerald Hughes, Loris, Chris Ruper, and
anyone elso that may have replied before I get the next digest.

I appreciate you relaying your experiences on this subject to me.  I
definately have a better idea of how to go about this now and what to
expect.

Thanks again,

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme
'83 Cutlass Ciera

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:15:07 -0500
From: Gordon Chambers <gtchambers@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: 303-324 Olds. engines

I need conformation on an engine number that I think came from a 1953 54
55 Olds. I want to order parts for this engine so I can rebuild it.The
number stamped on the block is 8A58984 this seems to be the only number
visible.I would appreciate any assistance you could provide.
  Thank You

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:08:12 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Repro W/Z manifolds- about time! 

At 11:36 PM 1/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
To All,

        The blueprints and dies are on there way to us from GM. We will
faithfully reproduce these with the correct dividers. The 69 guys will not
have the heatriser vavle. They will be firmly priced after we have the full
cost of casting them. We are hoping to keep them in the $225-250 per set.
They may be slightly higher. So don't hold us to this price. That is just
the goal we are trying to achieve. Nice used sets are going in this price
area or higher. It's just insane for two pieces of cast iron. More
information later this year.

Jim Chermack


>>        69-72 "W" and "Z" exhaust manifold sets (NEW) Fall 98
>
>Well, _that's_ a nice product to look forward to! Any idea of potential
>cost? If they're anywhere near the cost of a set of headers, that'll be a
>popular product. I'm hoping these manifolds will have the dividers? 
>_______________________________________________________
>Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
>Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:14:24 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?

I run Mallory Unilite and have found it to be an excellent distributor 
The wires I use are Blue Max

Robert Schinkel

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> From: BIG JERMES <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: anybody using a mallory distributor?
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 2:37 PM
> 
> im thinking about buying a mallory unilite distributor from the local
> supershops.  they are having some kind of sale, and i can get one for
$150.
> so do you guys think i should buy one, or spend it on hop ups for my hei?
 i
> also plan on buying a msd 6aL ignition box and performance coil.  and
another
> thing, the guy at supershops said his mallory 8mm wires are better than
the
> msd 8.5 heli-coil wires.  i think hes wrong on that one, but i can get
the
> mallory wires for around $45.  i think the msd wires run about $80 for a
> custom set for a olds.  any ideas or suggestions would really make me
feel
> better about what i buy.:-)

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:44:19 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine

Paul,

You are right about the 215 aluminum V8.  It is a nice little engine with
good power.

If the body is good - these are early unit bodies and rust badly - and it
runs it is probably worth around 10 times that amount.

There were 9,862 1962 convertibles built.  Most would have been automatics
and also include AM radio, power steering, power top, and bench seat.
Anything more in the accessory department is a little rare.

That sounds like a good deal.  These are fun cars.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


>A friend of mine has a 1962 F-85 2-door with what I believe must be the 215
ci
>all-aluminum V-8 engine.  The car is totally untouched down to the Rocket
V-8
>decal on the air cleaner.  It has a bench seat and an automatic.  The body
is
>straight, the interior is decent and the chrome is very good.   How many of
>these cars were made and what would the value of this interesting vehicle?
He
>is asking $300.
>
>Paul Pate

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:49:38 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: wtd: 77 442 front end pcs

Anyone got '77 front end pieces?

Forwarded message:
> From chris@gpcom.net Wed Jan 28 18:10:49 1998
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:06:59 -0800
> From: chris <chris@gpcom.net>
> Reply-To: chris@gpcom.net
>
> Do you carry front ends for a 1977 442 and a rear bumper? HELP

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:00:30 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: License Plates

I want to thank the list member that referred me to Gordon Dieterle of
Weberville, MI for 1968 and 1972 license plates.  I recieved them today
and I am very happy with them.  Brand new and never issued, and they are
matching sets!  They even had the familiar paint powder overspray used
to paint the numbers and came in the original packaging with the 1972
stickers.  Too cool!

- -Loris
1968 Cutlass 'S' convertible
1972 Cutlass Supreme convertible w/Hurst 4 speed

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:39:27 EST
From: StafRT007 <StafRT007@aol.com>
Subject: Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?

I'm using a Mallory Unilite distributor and I'm really happy with it.  If you
already have an HEI though and theres nothing wrong with it, then I think I'd
just keep that.  If you haven't done so already, have a speed shop recurv it
the way it should be (wouldn't bother trying to do this myself, doesn't cost
that much to have done), put an aftermarket cap, rotor, etc... on it and
you've got a great street/strip distributor for not much money.

Ryan
F-85

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:44:59 EST
From: StafRT007 <StafRT007@aol.com>
Subject: Re: More Power/Engine Availability

I'm not in your area but I have a 350 out of my 70 F-85 and a TH-400 to go
with it.  If you want more info, feel free to ask. This stuff is taking up
garage space.  Besides, it should be out there on the street kicking ass!
$500 for both if anybody is interested.  In El Paso tx.

Ryan
70 F-85

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:52:37 -0500
From: Gerald Hughes <ghughes@hughesconsulting.com>
Subject: Big Block "C" Heads

Hey you BB Smackheads,
	
	I have a pair of "C" BB heads that need to be redone.

	I will accept $150.00 for them.  

	They are not cracked, they just need to be redone.

							Gerald Hughes

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:14:35 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine

Can I ask you a question about the 215 aluminum V8 ------- How much is one
worth complete and is there a demand for these things.

I found one and could pass my good deal onto someone else if they want.

But the main question is what are they worth --- just the engine

Robert Schinkel

> 
> You are right about the 215 aluminum V8.  

> 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:18:52 -0500
From: Gerald Hughes <ghughes@hughesconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: Dual Exhaust on 1979 H/O

Jason,
	Where in the FAQ is this info?  I couldn't locate it.  Could you give
me the direct URL?

								Gerald Hughes

Jason Adcock wrote:
> 
> Gerald Hughes wrote:
> >
> >         Where may I find a Trans Crossmember that would have a dual hump for
> > dual exhaust on my (G Body????)  1979 H/O??  Does the Monty SS
> > crosmember have two humps?  Do I have to go aftermarket, or is there a
> > model that would have one stock I could transplant?
> 
> First of all, all G-Bodies had a single-hump crossmember, I
> believe.  This subject has come up before and the solution seems
> to be to get a dual-hump crossmember out of a 70's Cutlass with
> duals and trim the edges to git your G-Body.  There is a nice
> write-up of this procedure in the Olds FAQ; check out
> http://www.442.com to get it.
> 
> +---------------------------------------------------------------+
> |       __    ________                                          |
> |       \ \  / __  __/  Jason Adcock                            |
> |        \ \/ / / /     CS Major, Virginia Tech                 |
> |         \  / / /      mailto:jadcock@vt.edu                   |
> |          \/ /_/       http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/          |
> |                                                               |
> +---------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:23:05 -0600
From: "Michael Johnson" <Cardoc@Tcon.Net>
Subject: '81 Cutlass Supreme

Built this car and competed in Car & Driver's "One Lap of America" Last
year.  Now I have some rust in my hood and decklid.  Would like to put a
hood with the hood scoop and a decklid with the wing on it to replace the
rusted parts.  Car is no longer original, so putting original parts on will
not help value.  Besides, I kinda like the Hurst parts!  Does anyone have
these parts?  

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:40:07 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 455 in Truck?

   i am curious what the "F" means on the heads and block. does this
refer to chamber style, compression, exe. i am looking to made a pretty
mean motor and if anyone has any advise about any styles of cams,
compression ratios, headers vs. manifolds, intake manifolds, anything at
all. if anyone has any time to help me out i would appreshiate it.
______________________________________________________

Recently got photos from a guy in PA who put a nice 455 into his International
truck- 1 ton? chassis.

If your block has an F that's a 455.

If your heads have an F, that's *the* 455- the '70 W30 head that is probably
the epitome of desirability, worth about $1000 a pair, more or less depending
on condition.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:43:27 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: fuel tank neck repair

know how to replace the gas tank filler tube on a 72 Cutlass S.  Mine is
damaged and needs replacement if possible.  I hate to have to replace the
entire gas tank.
Thanks in advance for any info that will help me resolve this problem.

Eddie
==============
Quick-n-dirty method:
Drop tank enough to sever the neck of the tank with say one of them
multiple-roller xst pipe cutters [every car wrencher should have one of these
anyhow]. Cut good neck to match. Combine the two with rubber tube & 2 hose
clamps.
  Crude but effective.

Correct way:
Remove tank totally [lotta more work]. Take to fuel tank repair place, with
other [good] neck. "Put this neck on that tank, please". Part with a few $,
reinstall tank.

Your choice.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:49:41 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: where's the crank?

<< Whoa, your crank best not be "coming out of the oil"!
 The oil sump is supposed to hold oil BELOW the crank.

sorry, i was talking about how the counterwieghts on the crank come up out of
the oil sitting in the oil pan when the engine is turning.  (then they go back
into the oil, and over and over and over....)
==============
Precisely the error. the oil level is NEVER supposed to touch the crank. This
is not a splash-lube Briggs & Stratton motor here!
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:52:32 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: removal of engine/frame mounts

    You'll need the Olds frame brackets.  Yes, they're a pain to remove and
install, but you've got no choice....   Other than that the rest of the
swap isn't too bad, pretty straight foward since GM designed those cars to
take just about any motor

>Clayton Pierce,
=============
In the Rustbelt, these bolts can be a real pain. Loosening causes them to spin
& spin & spin.

Use the tried & true hassle-free methods below. Effective on shocks, too.

1- Torch the bastids off. Hassle of dragging the torch around...

2- Get your 1/2" socket set, including the *6* point socket. Turn CLOCKWISE
until it snaps the bolt off. Easy, quick, minimal lugging of tools.

- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:58:29 -0800 (PST)
From: PSHENG@scuacc.scu.edu
Subject: WANTED: 8-track housing

I'm looking for the plastic housing that holds the factory 8-track player
under the dash for my 72 cutlass.  I don't need the 8-track, just the 
housing.  If anyone has one of these & would be willling to part with it for
a reasonable price, e-mail me at psheng@scuacc.scu.edu
- -Paul

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:02:18 -0800 (PST)
From: PSHENG@scuacc.scu.edu
Subject: what's the deal with pertronix?

Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with pertronix ignitions?  I just 
put one in my '72 350 cutlass supreme, and the module burnt out and left
me stranded in front of a biker bar.  Someone else on the list said they had 
the magnets fly out of the magnet ring after 2000 miles.  I can send mine 
back and get a new one, but I'm hesitant... is there anyone out there who's 
put one in and had success?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:04:33 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: ADVISE

Your forgiven

 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:06:16 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: Honesty - ya gotta love it.

> matt bissell,
>
> I HAVE NO CAR.
> But my dad has a 70 442 W-30 and a 69 h/o that he is going to  rebiuld

I couldn't help but stop and commend you on your flat-out honesty here, Matt.
Just thought you should hear that.  :)  Don't worry, your "baby" will come along.
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:05:47 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: tools

Subject: Re: tools
any way i can see a diagram of how these parts went together?
- - --joe
=================
Not tonight. it's after 11 already.
Glue upright to magnet.
In end of upright, drill hole for #8 or #10 or whatever's handy screw.

carefully make similar hole at protractor's origin.

Fasten bubble level to pc of metal or wood with similar hole.

Affix a pointer to upright to just clear protractor. I used brazing rod,
flattened to a thin edge & bent to shape.

Now, bolt thru level, protractor, upright, spring, washer, nut in that order.
Adjust nut vs. spring tight enough to hold. Now you can move protractor, level,
or both to your favorite position. Add a string off the pivot screw if you and
a pendulum effect for say driveline measurements.

- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:07:53 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: wheeler's mirrors

I tried knocking the mirror back with a chunk o' pine and all it did was
move the mirror back on the gasket, should it move it back and then pop up?
Still need to try the flat screwdriver trick.
Let me know!
BTW I took some pics of the motor finished, on the stand, looks great! I'll
send them to Bryceman for the registry.  Scott Wheeler
=================
Almost off, dude.
Just wiggle it around in the various directions until the big bolt heads find
their holes.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:13:55 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RPTW32 specs.

In a message dated 98-01-28 08:18:10 EST, you write:
  RPTW32@aol.com<< 
 > I have a 69 442 @ 3800# incl me. that has run a best of 12.03 / 112
 > mph in street trim.. thru complete exhaust.
 
 Is this a 400 CID 442?  What did you do to it to get it to move this
 fast?
  >>

Chris,

  No I don't still run the 400. When I got my car 6 years ago it was a
matching
number vehicle and after playing pretty hard with it the first year I decided
that
if something was gonna break , best not be the original motor. Besides the
best
times I could muster out of it was 14.0 / 93 mph.  T-4 the decision was made
to go big.  Found a 68 455 block and built it to current specs.

.030 TRW forged pistons (70 specs.)
Big cam   560 int / 545 exh   242 deg int / 252 deg. exh_@ .050
Big carb  - 855 vac sec. Holley
Torker intake
Extensive porting to heads with other mods. 
2.07 int. / 1.71 exh. valves
Hooker 1 7/8 primary tube headers 3 1/2 " collectors
Big exhaust - 3" stainless mandrell bent with flowmaster mufflers
Big gear  4.10 
HEI  dist. with MSD 6AL ignition 
Home made ram air set up
Original TH400 with shift kit
ATI  3000 10" Streetmaster converter.
275 x 60 x 15  B.F.G. drag radials  on 8" Weld drag stars rear
205 x 65 x 15 radials on 5" drag stars front.
Lots of tuning and adjusting.
Timing initial at 24 deg.  with total at 35 deg. at 2200 rpm.

I'm more into performance with this car then the matching numbers thing
for show anymore. Original parts are safely stashed away and replaced with
alot of performance added features. If ya wanna run with the big boys ......
gotta have the right stuff. 

The ol long stroke 400 will certainly hold it's own out there but no
substitute
for cubes.  The 455 is not even comparable.

Should have pics on Mark Princes web page very near future at
members.aol.com/wmachines/index/html..... check it out...

Rgds,
R.Thomas
69 442
 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:13:52 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

In a message dated 98-01-28 04:22:23 EST, you write:

<< For all of the Eddie Murphy fans out there, check out Beverly Hills Cop
 II.  He drives a sweet Cutlass convertible, I'm guessing '70-'71.  Not
 sure if it's a 4-4-2 or not... >>

Memory serves me correctly I believe that Eddie drove a red 68 Cutlass 
convert.

R.Thomas
69 442

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:15:59 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes

Hey, I'll keep you updatd about my progress on new wheels, so I can get
you mine then.  Remind me though if you don't here from me in a while!

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:19:59 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Use of your product 104+

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, RPTW32 wrote:

>  yes but the 442 after 1967 had hardened valve seats check with Olds
> > you should not need valve lube

Hmmm,  I have 7a (350) heads on my 403, I believe they're from a 72.  But,
if I am correct, the 7a heads could be from 70,71, or 72, right?  So, if
they are from 70, would they have the non-hardened vavle seats?  

> 
> 
> OK folks is his statement true?
> 
> Definately not.    GM didn't start putting hardned seats in the heads
> for Oldsmobiles until 1971. Even though 1971 still had leaded gas in 
> almost all stations they must have seen the handwriting on the wall and
> started using hardned seats before no lead became to standard.
> small blocks starting with # 7 heads  BIG BLOCKS with G or (H in case of W30) 
> 
> Rgds,
> R.Thomas
> 69 442   (not to be confused w/ R.Thomas Wicks from 104) 
> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:25:58 -0500
From: "Ulysses Melen" <Master-Stile@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

I do believe it was Sly Stalloan in the Demolition Man?!

- ----------
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 10:55 PM

For what it's worth, Jed Clampet (? spelling)  on the Beverly
Hillbillies (? spelling) drove a 1928 (?) Oldsmobile.  Thar's Olds in
them thar hills!  Also, Demolition Man with Ah-nold featured TWO
identicle red 4-4-2s that were smashed.  

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:23:07 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Oldsnut wrote:

> A friend of mine has a 1962 F-85 2-door with what I believe must be the 215 ci
> all-aluminum V-8 engine.  The car is totally untouched down to the Rocket V-8
> decal on the air cleaner.  It has a bench seat and an automatic.  The body is
> straight, the interior is decent and the chrome is very good.   How many of
> these cars were made and what would the value of this interesting vehicle?  He
> is asking $300.

Hey, this car's worth no more than $50, but I got some extra cash and I'll
pay the $300.  I'll be there in five minutes to pick it up!  Uh, just
kidding.  I would say the car is worth WAY more than that!  But, if he
insists, I will absolutely buy it today!
Let me know.
Thanks


> 
> Paul Pate
> Mechanical Design Engineer
> Port Neches, Texas
> 70 Cutlass S (350-4V, TH-350, 12-bolt 3.08)
> 84 Camaro (305-4V, TH-700, 10-bolt 3.08)
> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:36:39 -0500
From: "Ulysses Melen" <Master-Stile@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Pics

FYI,

There's a store called Computer City in my area & possibly yours that has a
real sweet deal on scanners if your in the neighborhood of buying one.  I
scanned a bunch of olds pic's for W-Machines@aol (Mark Prince) new Detroit
Street Rockets web page with great success!

UMAX Astra 610P  -  $100.00 after 20.00 mail in rebate 600x300 Optical Res.
Scan.

- ----------
> From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Pics
> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 2:27 PM
> 
> On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, TERMO1L wrote:
> 
> > Hey guys and gals please mail me your car pics I am trying to put
together a
> > web page with all sorts of olds.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Mike
> 
> Hey Mike,
> I'd love to mail you a pcture of my Rocket, but I can only do so if you
> mean U.S. mail.   I don't have a scanner or whatever, let alone a
> computer! (in the library now!)
> Please send address if you don't mind.  Thanks!
> 
> 
> Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:35:49 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: 2004R Chatter

Ya know, all this talk about the 200-4R is upsetting me.  Since
the internal workings of a transmission are basically a mystery to me, I'd
be paying someone to build and install mine (if I had one).  So, I got a
quote from John Meenan, an outstanding transmission guy in Willow Grove,
and it was for $2000.  This was for him to supply the core, build it to
handle the torque of an agressively modified 403, do the install, and
whatever other little things there were, ie. converter switch (my car's
computer has been laid to rest).  Now, I obviously could save money by
finding my own core and doing the simple things, but probably no more than
$500.  I would not want transmission work done by anyone else, as he has
done hundreds of transmissions for my Dad's business over the years, never
to be a disappointment.  Actually he did a TH400 for me, and I think it
made my car gain 50hp with his magical touch (not really of course).  But,
I hear others saying stuff about $500-600 stuff, and I don't get it!
Also, everyone I've talked to says that this transmission really would not
last behind my engine, unless I were to do some $erious replacing of
parts.  So, my point is unknown, I guess I'm just looking for opinions and
experiences with this trans.  Thanks everyone.

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:32:02 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine

You'll be inundated talking about that kind of car & that kind of money.
I'll take it if you don't.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Glass Line's Bulletin Board: http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/oldsbbs/index.cgi

Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:43:06 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: reply to "Wtd's"

Chermack, etc.:

When I send a "can you help this guy" message... about parts wanted... you need
to copy his email address and paste that into your email's To: place.

If you R)eply to the email I sent to the list, all that does is send the "I
have one!" message to the list.

Since these guys are generally not on the list, but contacted me thru the
notice on www.442.com or by phone... they will never know that you have that
part unless you email directly to them.

I have even taken to leaving MY address off the post to make it more clear that
you need to email the parts searcher, not me, not the list.

Also, please snip excess lines from included text during replies.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:40:17 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Underpowered!?!

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Gerald Hughes wrote:

> Nj,
> 	old, and underpowered.  You should either keep the 307 and rebuild it
> with the most bang you can get, (I.E. Use the 84 Hurst/Olds motor specs
> VIN 9)	
> 
> 	OR
> 
> 	Get yourself some real balls with a 350.
> 
> 	I don't know what your plans are, but have fun with it!

Get real elephant sized balls with a 403!




> 



> 									Gerald Hughes
> NjOlds wrote:
> > 
> >     Hello Olds lovers out there.  I need help!  I have an ' 87 Olds Cutlass
> > Supreme with the 307 c.i. " Y " engine, the Olds engine.  It has a little over
> > 97k miles on it and recently I put an Accel cap, rotor, 8.8 mm wires, and
> > Accel plugs.  It has a little more Kick but now it hesitates from the start.
> > I'm wondering if it is the distributor module, should I change that also?  Can
> > anyone help me out w/my problem.  And can anyone tell me if there are any
> > after market parts out there for my Olds. engine such as high perf. heads,
> > headers,and so on.  Thanx in advance for anyones help.
> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:45:35 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: pulling motor &/or trans

I suggest you pull them out individually. Otherwise, if you pull them
out together where are you going to place them, on the ground?  Pull the
trans first. That way once you pull the engine you can immediately bolt
the engine, while it's still on the hoist, to an engine stand.  I pulled
them out together before and I was left with a pool of trans fluid
EVERYWHERE!.  Looked like Jason had hacked someone up with an axe in my
garage, for cryin' out loud!   - -Loris
===================
Ah, yes, ALWAYS drain ALL fluids FIRST. Drop the trans pan- even that will not
get all of it out- use a plastic plug, old yoke [note spelling please] or bag
the rear hole. Drain motor oil. Drain radiator AND block drains [near motor
mounts] of coolant. Remove distributor, fan, radiator.

- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:43:01 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

Hey, didn't I see a bunch of Oldses in the Worlds Scariest Police Chases
commercial?  I think I remember a Cutlass falling into a ravine!  No!!

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:47:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: search for rolling chassis

Still searching for that elusive rustfree rolling chassis somewhere between
San Diego and Michigan.......anyone have one/know of one?
==================
Day late & a dollar short...

Am arranging to sell to a man from Wisconsin that rustfree CA 1970 Cutlass that
I found about a month ago. Deals like that are hard to come by here. I made
plent o' notice of it here, he was the ONLY responder. Amazing. Cheap, too.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:54:59 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: 70 W-30 conv

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Dan Boone wrote:

> I have a 1970 W-30 conv which is missing the original carburetor. If
> anyone has a 7040258 carb and is willing to sell it please let me know.
> This is the last part I need to complete this rare beauty. I will
> consider any condition but would prefer it to be complete. You can reach
> me boone.dan@acd.net or at (517)641-7259 no calls before 8:00 am est.
> 
> 
If you tell me more info about this, I'll check for one in the rust free
AZ junkyards while I'm there next week.


> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:00:52 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Pics

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, TERMO1L wrote:

> Oh I don't know what are we always talking about? Oldsmobiles.  I want all the
> pics you guts have out there
> 
Right now I have about 20 pictures of my car in an undeveloped roll of
film.  I have $0.72 dollars right now because I am a college student
getting dicked around by this stupid school.  They have a large sum of
money of mine, but say they can't give it to me until some info is
processed.  It's my fault though, because I decided to spend Christmas,
when i could have been getting the paperwork taken care of,
with my family back home instead of out here staring at my treeless living
room.  So, until I get my cash, I have no food, no textbooks, no money for
an oil change, and no money for film developing.  If I didn't have a cool
Olds, I guess I'd just kill myself!  
Unfortuanately, someone stole all my old pictures when they broke into my
88.  Not the pictures specifically, they were with other stuff.  Bastards.

So, my pictures will be sent as soon as possible, ie. next week.  




Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:02:04 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: 4spd automatic swap

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Patton wrote:

> List,
> 	Anyone interested in doing the 200-4R swap can check out the April
> High Performance *ontiac magazine..........
> 
> 
> 					The General
> 
Yeah!  Thanks!  I bet they'll be wonderig why their circulation doubled
that month.


Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:06:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: FORD fuel problem

From: "Daren & Laurie Hendley" <daren@revealed.net>
>for what it's worth... I FINALLY found the problem with my
>  "F$%&, Our Ride Died"
>truck!
>  Free Oil Pump Drive Rod to the 1st to correctly diagnose this problem?
That's easy it's a Ford. Fuel intake screen (sock?) in the tank clogged.
Crushed fuel line.Daren
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
- --snip numerous great ideas--
========================

Nope. The tank selector valve. No electrical connections, apparently the tanks'
pumps pressure is supposed to make it select that tank. Stuck in between.
Bypassed it- problem gone. Yay! Off to Padnos tomorrow!
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:04:27 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, BIG JERMES wrote:

> im thinking about buying a mallory unilite distributor from the local
> supershops.  they are having some kind of sale, and i can get one for $150.
> so do you guys think i should buy one, or spend it on hop ups for my hei?  i
> also plan on buying a msd 6aL ignition box and performance coil.  and another
> thing, the guy at supershops said his mallory 8mm wires are better than the
> msd 8.5 heli-coil wires.  i think hes wrong on that one, but i can get the
> mallory wires for around $45.  i think the msd wires run about $80 for a
> custom set for a olds.  any ideas or suggestions would really make me feel
> better about what i buy.:-)
> 
I've gotta a Mallory distributor topped with an Accel "Super Coil" and
Mallory wires.  The Super Coil was probably a waste of money, but the
distributor and wires, do just fine.



Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:07:38 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: G-body interchangeability with Buick

I'm wondering about putting a T-type Buick hood on my 87 Cutlass.  Do the
lines match up alright?  I better get rid of that 3.8 SFI stuff though.
Maybe 6.7 BMF.

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:11:20 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: ADVISE:CORRECTION

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, john foster wrote:

> I GUESS I WAS WRONG. THE HEADS AREN'T "F"'S AND BY THE WAY YOU GUYS TALK 
> I SURE WISH THEY WHERE!!! OH WELL. REALLY THEY ARE "G"' I CHECKED THEM 
> THIS MORNING. DAMB.
> 
> RAY 
> IF YOU DON'T MIND COULD YOU SEND ME THE INFO ON MONDELLO (OLDS 
> PERFORMANCE PARTS AND EXPERTS) AND YA WELL TOYS DO COST ALOT OF MONEY 
> BUT DAMB THEY ARE SURE FUN TO PLAY WITH!!!!


HEY JOHN! DON'T THINK I'M FORGETTIN THIS.  IT'S JUST THAT I'M ALWAYS AT
THE LIBRARY WHEN I'M ON THE COMPUTER, SO FIRST I SEE THE NEED FOR
SOMETHING, THEN I SEE THAT NEED CAN BE HELPED BY ME, THEN I SEE THAT THAT
HELP BY ME IS WANTED, THEN I GET WHAT IS NEEDED.  I'M AT THE LIBRARY
USUALLY ONCE A DAY!  BUT I'LL BE SURE TO HAVE THE INFO, AND WHATEVER ELSE
I FIND, AND SEND IT TOMORROW BY 3:00 MOUNTAIN TIME!  AND DAMN RIGHT
THEY'RE FUN!  IF I ADDED UP ALL THE MONEY I PUT IN MY CAR, I'D KICK MY ASS
FOR GOING TO SCHOOL ON LOANS!

> 
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:12:58 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: anybody using a mallory distributor?

P.S.  My car runs better without the vacuum advance hooked up on the
Mallory.

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:14:49 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> You are right about the 215 aluminum V8.  It is a nice little engine with
> good power.
> 
> If the body is good - these are early unit bodies and rust badly - and it
> runs it is probably worth around 10 times that amount.
> 
Hey, why ya tellin him that?  I was gonna get that car and sell it to
someone else on the list for ten times that, damn it!



> There were 9,862 1962 convertibles built.  Most would have been automatics
> and also include AM radio, power steering, power top, and bench seat.
> Anything more in the accessory department is a little rare.
> 
> That sounds like a good deal.  These are fun cars.
> 
> Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
> Decatur, Alabama
> '62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible
> 
> 
> >A friend of mine has a 1962 F-85 2-door with what I believe must be the 215
> ci
> >all-aluminum V-8 engine.  The car is totally untouched down to the Rocket
> V-8
> >decal on the air cleaner.  It has a bench seat and an automatic.  The body
> is
> >straight, the interior is decent and the chrome is very good.   How many of
> >these cars were made and what would the value of this interesting vehicle?
> He
> >is asking $300.
> >
> >Paul Pate
> 
> 
> 

Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:22:01 -0500
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: 307 => 350 swap (and upgrade)

I've been looking into pulling the motor out of the '78 Delta, and
installing it in the '85 Delta.  The '78 has the 350/350 combo, and the
'85 has the 307/200-4r setup.

Would the 350 bolt right in place of the 307?  Are they the same block
as the 260/350/403's?  Is there *anything* I should watch out for?  I'm
looking for a few opinions on this matter....transmissions.  Should I
keep the 200-4r, or should I use a TH350?  I really like the idea of the
overdrive, but will it put up with abuse?  Which tranny should I use? 
Whichever one I choose, I'll likely end up exploding, and I'd get it
rebuilt, only a little stronger.  BTW, would the '85 have a different
rear end than the '78 because one's a three-speed and the other's a
four?  

Second of all, I need some advice towards freshening this motor...I was
thinking about a re-ring and gasket kit (w/ rod to crank bearings), not
to mention dropping in a mild cam and having the valve guides, lifters,
and springs replaced.  Unless one of the cylinders is severely beat, I
can't afford to have it machined....if that's the case I'll postpone
until I have another $500 kicking around.  I'll also be getting the
exhausts done; true duals with no catalytics, and two chamber Dynomax
mufflers.  How radical of a cam can I run with the stock torque
converter?  I'm just looking for a little boost at bottom end, plus a
nice 'cammy' sound flowing through the duals.  I know this is a tough
question to answer, but what should I be looking at for horsepower?  The
350 should run around 180 when fresh, but would the cam, wires, and
really free-flowing exhaust?  I'm hoping to be in the 210 range (and get
the torque from 275 to 300).  Are there any other easy power-ups I
should know about?

Advice would be greatly appreciated...I'm not even going to consider
this before I get a few valuable opinions...I think all of us hate
surprises when knee-deep in a project...

Advice/opinions would be *greatly* appreciated....I've never had the
opportunity to design/build an engine before, and I'd appreciate some
input about this.  TIA

Dave Ward  (mailto:ward@ptbo.igs.net)

'78 Delta 88  (350 4bbl.)--still runs strong, but body is falling apart
'85 Delta 88  (307 4bbl.)--great shape, fresh paint, lacks the boogie...
'91 GMC 4x4   (305 TBI)--still works...

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