
oldsmobile-digest      Friday, January 16 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1060



Re: What Can Go Wrong
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Re: Oldsmobile program on TV
Re: Webpage update
Re: Webpage update
Re: What Can Go Wrong
Re: What Can Go Wrong
Re: Non-Olds
Re: What Can Go Wrong
83-84 H/O Factory front plates
My Classic Car
trunck emblem
Re: 69 4-4-2 parts for sale
Re: Non-Olds
Re: 83-84 H/O Factory front plates
Intake wanted
Re: NON-Expiring registration for Michigan
Re: Front End Alignment Bolt Broke
Re: What Can Go Wrong
Re: What Can Go Right
Re: Non-Olds
Re: What Can Go Right
Re: Webpage update
Intake & Carb
Re: What Can Go Wrong-lights
Re: What Can Go Wrong
Green's Law (Was Re: What Can Go Wrong)
Re: Intake & Carb
Re: Just can't be satisfied... tuning tips for my 455?
Re: Intake & Carb
Re: Intake & Carb
Re: Intake & Carb
Re: What Can Go Wrong-Driveshafts
Olds bumpers
you guys crack me up
Re: Edelbrock Heads
HELP!!!!! how do I adjust my carb?
Re: What Can Go Wrong-lights
Title Search: Illinois
Re: What Can Go Wrong
Re: Edelbrock Heads and V/C Spacers
[Fwd: Attitude is good!]
Re: Chrome tips
Re: Webpage update
Re: What Can Go Wrong

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:27:08 EST
From: KS7RACING <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

Christian,

At one time I was coerced (by a well-meaning stepdad) into owning a 1961 F*#d
Unibody (cab & bed all one piece) with that dreaded single brake master
cylinder. It decided to blow out a line as I was getting off the interstate.
Did I mention that the E-Brake didn't work, and I even turned off the
ignition, but it wouldn't even slow down? There was no place to go but into
the ditch, through the intersection, down a street, and up my driveway, where
it finally stopped - just long enough to reverse direction and roll back down
the driveway. I finally got it to stop in front of my house, where it sat for
quite a while as I didn't want a thing to do with it. Later that year, I did
fix it and then sold it to a friend who was nuts about those "F"-word things.
I got my revenge on that truck when it was a victim of the Great Flood of 93
here in Kansas City. It was being stored at a salvage yard near the river and
they couldn't get it to start, so under it went. It was so bad they brought in
a portable car crusher and squashed it along with most of the other cars and
trucks in the yard. I don't think I'll ever look at a single master cylinder
system the same way again.

Now laughing at what was not so funny at the time,

Ken Snyder

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:02:26 EST
From: CCRR12 <CCRR12@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile program on TV

John Richmond,

Thanks for the info. I had never thought about finding their web site. Maybe
now I will get the good stuff recorded and not the "Peruvian Fiat Dirt Devil
Mountain Race'.

That reminds me. Has anybody else ever wondered about the sanity of the
knotheads who stand right next to the (gravel & dirt) roads these guys are
racing on? The in-car cameras make it obvious that one miscalculation by the
driver could wipe out several spectators.

Randy in Okla
57 88 J/2

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:53:11 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Webpage update

  Are you using Java?  If so then that is it.

I know enough to know we are using Java. Sorry if I killed you 8-)


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:00:27 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Webpage update

Thanks - I have to give the other half all the credit.  I'd rather be out
playing vacuum line rummy with the Toro's then trying to figure out the
technical stuff on a computer.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:03:15 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

Speaking of nesting critters in hibernating automobiles, when we fired up
the '69 Toro after its slumber in the desert for 5 years, there were these
big balls of ....?? insulation, trunk mat, upholstery & carpeting that the
mice had obviously collected and made nests with throughout the exhaust
system - we had these mouse-bunnies all over the back yard after we blew
them out!  


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:07:53 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

 Looking in my side mirror, I saw the car's left rear wheel
>attempting to pass me.

This reminds me of one trip down the freeway where a lowered mini-truck's
fancy spare tire that was mounted on the tailgate decided it didn't like it
there any longer.  It very gracefully dropped off, bounced a couple of
times and proceeded to keep pace with the truck while slowly angling off to
the center divider area where it proceeded for another 3-4 miles still
keeping pace with traffic (it was a slight downgrade)  Darn thing always
kept going straight though (something my tires on my car can't seem to do).
 The guy in the truck *finally* noticed it and pulled over to the center
divider and collected the errant tire (maybe it was tired of playing second
fiddle and never getting getting on the road) and went on his way.  Never
fell or messed up the fancy anodized gold rim either, pretty lucky for him.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:28:05 -0800
From: Erik <erikreb@netbridge.net>
Subject: Re: Non-Olds

chris smetana wrote:
> 
> Well, my pc craped out AGAIN.  And for the last time.  I'm actually borrowing a keyboard for a week or so until I get a new pc.  Enough of this 486/50 w/ 8MB ram and win 3.1 crap, it's time to upgrade.  It died right when I was about to reply to the headliner chrome retainer post about my parts for sale (which I sent after this).
> Done bitching.
> 
> My question is do most of the pc's now a days come w/ ps2 ports for the keyboard and mouse?  Or does it depend on what you buy and from whom?
> 
> Thanks
> Chris Smetana
> Terre Haute, IN
> chris@abcs.com
> 
> 1969 Cutlass S W-31
> 1969 4-4-2 parts car
> plus others

Chris, 

Yeah, I am almost certain that all comps now come with ps/2 ports.  You
can also stick the mouse in the serial port, if u buy a serial mouse of
course.

486, ouch!  Need to be surfing in style with a pentuim 200 mxx!

Erik B.
'72 Cutlass S

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:36:03 EST
From: Knightvd <Knightvd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

So I have my beater 90 Plymouth Acclaim.  Car's parked in lot at work, go to
leave in afternoon, can't move shifter out of Park.  Pull hard on the SOB,
something gives, hey car is in neutral, but now linkage is obviously detached.
Apply parking brake, get under dash with screwdriver to take a look (laying on
floor with feet over driver's seat).  Unscrew dash panel, uh oh, emergency
brake lever is on this panel.  POP, there goes emergency brake, hey I'm
moving.  Struggle to push on brake pedal with hand, but dash panel is in way.
Coasting now at a good clip (face still under dash), jump a curb and smash
into bosses car!    

Cost me about 400 to repair his car.

Vince Knight
71 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:33:34 -0500
From: "Gilbert Russell" <russellg@dmv.com>
Subject: 83-84 H/O Factory front plates

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A while back someone posted a messages trying to sell some of these plate
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Thanks

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:17:09 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: My Classic Car

For anyone interested, My Classic Car, on TNN will air some footage of
the shoot out between the 50 top Muscle Cars covered in the new issue of
Muscle Car Review.  I am sure they won't get to all of it but there is a
good chance they might catch on the the three Olds machines that
competed.  There was a W-30, a H/O and a straight 442 I believe...should
be fun.

It is said the show will air on TNN  - Saturday, Jan. 17 @ 1:00pm
                                                       Sunday, Jan 18 @
3:30pm
We'll see if they stick to that

Dan
- --
Daniel R. Gerow
WSHL-FM 91.3
General Manager
Stonehill College Radio
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http://www.stonehill.edu
http://www.stonehill.edu/wshl
http://www2.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 18:55:39 PST
From: "Ing-Britt Arnoldsdotter" <adu819k@tninet.se>
Subject: trunck emblem

I´m  looking for a trunck emblem for an Olds 1940, club coupe´, serie 90
Does anybody know where I can find one? 
Grateful for contact to: Stig Olsson email adress:
ing-britt.arnoldsdotter@ebox.tninet.se

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:57:20 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 69 4-4-2 parts for sale

> Mike,
> Actually, these are the chrome headliner channels.  I tried to describe them as best as I could since I didn't know what they are called. 

Thanks Chris.  Sorry if I misunderstood your post.  And this is on a
Hardtop??  Or Sport Coupe (enclosed door windows)?  Just wondering. 
That's the cool thing about this list.  You learn something everyday. 
It's just that I've never seen them on a '69.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:27:45 -0500
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Non-Olds

<My question is do most of the pc's now a days come w/ ps2 ports for the
keyboard and mouse?>


Yea most do.  If you don't use high graphics (such as complex game
programs), there are some really great deals on the "old style" pentium 233
w/mmx

However my buddy just got a pretty good deal on his new PC;  Pentium II 233
w/mmx, 32 mg ram, 4 gig hard drive, 24x cd rom, 17" monitor, keyboard, ms
mouse, speakers, & loads of software.  $1,500. !

This 486/66 (16 mg ram), I'm using is ready for the wife's desk!  I'm really
into games!  Most of which call for Pentiums.  I think once you get use to
Windows 95, you'll like it much better than 3.11.  I read that Windows 98 is
suppose to be out this spring.

Happy Upgrading!

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt. - see it at:
1995 Achieva S

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell/

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:39:42 -0800
From: Bill Gochenour <3STICKS@stjohns.edu>
Subject: Re: 83-84 H/O Factory front plates

Gilbert Russell wrote:
> 
> A while back someone posted a messages trying to sell some of these plate
> does any have any information on this.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Are you talking about the front license plate that says either "83 or 84
Hurst/Olds", it came on the car from the factory?. Which one are you
looking for?, the two years were very different?

- -- 
                                                     
Bill !                                         

1986 442 "The Perfect 10"                     _           _       ___
     Mobile Electronics Show Car            /  |        /  |    /  _  \
1983 Hurst/Olds 15th Anniversary Edition  /    |      /    |   |_|   | |
     Oldsmobile 100th Centennial # 2218 /    | |_   /  / | |_      /  /
1997 Oldsmobile Bravada 4x4            |_____   _| |_____   _|   /  /__
1993 Chevrolet Lumina Z-34		     |_|         |_|   |_______|
1997 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Z-34


		* * * * * * * * *
		* COMMING  SOON * --------> www.3STICKS.com
		* * * * * * * * *

	http://area51.stjohns.edu/~toychest     (updated 1/5/98)

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:49:08 -0600
From: Scott.Wheeler@pinnacle-brands.com
Subject: Intake wanted

Me Too!!!!! I just can't seem to part with the $225 for a new one!!!!





>Anybody out there got a 455 Performance Aluminum Intake that they would
>like to sell? I would prefer a Performer but would look at other brands.
>Sorry, no interest in cracked or broken examples. Please E-Mail me
>directly. I do have a Performer RPM to trade for anyone who has an
>interest...


Scott Wheeler
68 442 Conv
Dallas

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:29:11 EST
From: BradRoss79 <BradRoss79@aol.com>
Subject: Re: NON-Expiring registration for Michigan

Do you know if this goes by the same rules as a "Historical Vehicle" plate.
I would like to put one on my 71 Delta 88 that I drive daily.  I wonder if
they allow this.
TIA.

Brad Ross 
Swartz Creek, Michigan
1971 Delta Royale
1971 Delta Custom

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:52:14 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Front End Alignment Bolt Broke

Just hopped out of the tow truck with my '70 Cutlass on board.  I was =
backing out of a parking space when a loud pop announced that one of the =
bolts that mounts the upper "A" frame broke.  I had replaced the =
original upper bushing shaft with an offset shaft that is supposed to =
allow for proper front end alignment of older worn front ends.  This =
resulted in the use of more than normal amount of shims required to =
align the front end.  My theory is that the additional shims increased =
the stress on these bolts, and the fatigue finally wore through the =
bolt.

Dan Burke                       70 cultass conv
- ----------
This has maybe been covered already, I'm a little behind on digests . . .

Usually the upper control arm bushings are shot, thus the shaft is not centered
in the bushing, and you need tons of shims, or you could use an offset shaft.
Best bet is to replace the bushings. Getting the control arm out isn't too bad.
Use a taper breaker to undo the ball joint from the spindle.

The engine cradle part of the frame could have also bent, but most likely the
bushings are way past their usable life. The bushings are one of the first
things that are checked before an alignment, along with ball joints. Good luck.
- --
David Brown              Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:00:01 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

Actually, while speaking about these two things, I've got a question.  In my '76
Monte, when I'm running with the high-beams on, after about 3-5 minutes the
lights
actually start to go out, specifically they will go out briefly and come back
on,
then out for a longer time and back on, and longer and longer each time they'll
be
off, and if you let it do this without switch to low beams again you start to
smell this funny smell.
- - --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
- ----------
When stuff like this starts happening, and you have checked grounds, cleaned
connectors, and it presists, I'd recommend replacing the two fusible links,
found connected to the starter solenoid battery terminal. They're probably the
originals, so they've had a good life. Heck, put some brushes in the starter
while you're at it, anti-sieze the bolts, clean and put dielectric grease on the
connections down there, use shrink wrap tubing on the newly soldered
connections. Eliminate problems for a number of years.
- -- 
David Brown              Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
         Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:28:01 -0800
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Right

Hi all,

Well the 1968 442 is ready for pickup.  I just had an original paint job
put on the car and it was painted back to Teal Frost.  When I went
yesterday to check on the car, to see how the prepping was going, I was
told that the car was done.  They had some problems with insurance
companies giving them the go ahead on other cars so they put two guys
on mine and got it done.  When I went to see it inside the car shed,
my mouth nearly touched the ground.  Beautifullllllllllll.  I was 
amazed at how stunning this car looked.  It was an overcast day so
I didn't get to see it in the sun.  It will probably take my breath
away.  Quick get the oxygen.....  The body work that was done came
out wonderfully.  I am on cloud 9 folks.  It has been 9 months of
hell for me, not having this car to drive.  All I need to do next is
get the over-the-axle tail pipes changed from the cutlass pipes that
are on there to straight-outs.  I need to get some chrome tips.  I have
a pair that are original but showing a little wear.  Does anyone know
of where I get an original pair reasonably or a good repro.  I talked
to YO and they claimed that theirs may have flaws.  I declined on that.

Pretty soon I'll have pictures :-) :-) :-)

Oh BTW I have offically given the car a name.  I didn't like leaking
Lena or just Lena (sorry Lisa) so I decided to call her Frosty.  She
gives me chills just looking at her! :-)

Ok I am flying in the clouds, I better get back to work.  Yeah right!

Chris Sparks

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:38:17 -0700
From: Tom Starkey <tstarkey@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Non-Olds

Hi Chris!

If you need to, they make an adapater for the bigger "AT" style
keyboards to plug into the PS2 slot. Also, the mouse can be plugged
into  a serial port, you don't have to use the mouse port.

Tom Starkey

chris smetana wrote:
> 
> Well, my pc craped out AGAIN.  And for the last time.  I'm actually borrowing a keyboard for a week or so until I get a new pc.  Enough of this 486/50 w/ 8MB ram and win 3.1 crap, it's time to upgrade.  It died right when I was about to reply to the headliner chrome retainer post about my parts for sale (which I sent after this).
> Done bitching.
> 
> My question is do most of the pc's now a days come w/ ps2 ports for the keyboard and mouse?  Or does it depend on what you buy and from whom?
> 
> Thanks
> Chris Smetana
> Terre Haute, IN
> chris@abcs.com
> 
> 1969 Cutlass S W-31
> 1969 4-4-2 parts car
> plus others

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:47:08 +0000
From: "Rick" <Richardc@equitrac.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Right

Chris I deal with a parts guy here in Boston called A-1 parts and 
performance. He got me some nice Trumpet tips for my car and he sold 
them to me for 45 bucks..They look great. If you want his number is 
617-381-0088..Ask for Vince. 
1964 Olds 442 F-85
1987 Monte Carlo SS
Rick Copithorne <richardc@equitrac.com>

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:00:56 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Webpage update

Hi,

About Lisa oldsmobile page:
I have checked that page and found a few bugs... and have fixed them.
Please let me know if you still have any trouble loading that page.

PAGE Tested with: http://www.thenet-usa.com/wlgate3.html

Thank You!
Jim.... the one who fixes the stuff for Lisa.

  Are you using Java?  If so then that is it.

I know enough to know we are using Java. Sorry if I killed you 8-)


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:09:59 -0500
From: Gerald Hughes <ghughes@hughesconsulting.com>
Subject: Intake & Carb

Hey everyone, it's great to be back on the list.  I missed it so! :)

I am rebulding my Olds 350 (1979 VIN R) and I am having problems with
the setup that I want.  I am hoping one of you guys may know if this
will work, even if the dealer says don't do it.
	
	I have an Edelbrock Performer 600cfm mounted on my original
intake....with a little modification it worked (even if it wasn't
supposed to).  

	I NEED a new intake and I wanted to go with the Edelbrock Performer
Dual Plane (non-EGR).  The dealer says that it won't work becuase of the
linkages, but I'm betting that there's a way to modify ANYTHING in order
to get it to work.  

	If there is no way to use this setup....does anyone know of someone
with a stock "79" Quadrajet (rebuilt or not) that would either sell, or
trade me for my Edelbrock Performer 600.  

	You guys are the best....and happy belated holidays.

							Gerald Hughes

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:10:28 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeremy Lloyd Elder <jelder1@bigred.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong-lights

I've got the same problem with my '86 cougar.  I'll put my lights on 
bright and then after a while all of the headlights will start 
blinking and going off.  With a newer f*rd you can get away with it 
for a while- you just have to hold the dimmer lever on the column back 
and you're brights are connected directly somehow.  My problem got 
worse when I snagged my coveralls on the lever and broke it off- down 
to about a 3 inch stub.  Suppossedly the problem is with the dimmer 
switch.  The contacts inside get wore down until they stop connecting 
or something. I tore my dash all apart so I could get the plastic cover off 
of the column and I tore into all the switches.  I had it all ready to 
replace the switch and the lever but then I couldn't get one all of 
the salvage yards were closed, Ford wants $75 for the switch and 15 
for the lever so I quickly put it all back together so I could go to 
work the next day.  Then it started working for a week and failed 
again.  Anyway I am driving around with all the wires and everything 
hanging around the column right now.  Hopefully I'll have some time to 
replace it and know for sure if that's the problem.

Jeremy "Sqk 'Em Off" Elder
'82 Cutlass, 455
'86 Cougar, 302

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:13:21 EST
From: Wrencher43 <Wrencher43@aol.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

The circuit breaker in the headlight switch is overheating.
Replace the headlight switch. there is no fuse for protection to that
circuit,other
than the breaker itself.

Wrencher43@aol.com
Mike M.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:24:21 -0600
From: "Green, Andrew" <acg@datalogics.com>
Subject: Green's Law (Was Re: What Can Go Wrong)

> I'm always on the lookout for any unusual odors from my cars, so when
I
> smell oil, gas, or something burning, I've always got to determine
whether
> it's from my car, or from something else that's on the road in my
> proximity.

I'm laying claim to this one as "Green's Law" since I
learned it from bitter experience:

GREEN'S LAW: If you detect the same funny smell at two 
stoplights in a row, it is coming from your own car.

Other list members are invited to concoct their own.
We could even have a web page under http://www.442.com
set up for this!
- --
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Datalogics, Inc.            email: acg@datalogics.com
101 N. Wacker, Ste. 1800    http://www.datalogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301     Fax: (312) 853-8282

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:05:47 EST
From: CRuper1 <CRuper1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Intake & Carb

In a message dated 98-01-16 12:17:12 EST, you write:

<< 
 	I NEED a new intake and I wanted to go with the Edelbrock Performer
 Dual Plane (non-EGR).  The dealer says that it won't work becuase of the
 linkages, but I'm betting that there's a way to modify ANYTHING in order
 to get it to work.  
 
 	If there is no way to use this setup....does anyone know of someone
 with a stock "79" Quadrajet (rebuilt or not) that would either sell, or
 trade me for my Edelbrock Performer 600.  
 
 	You guys are the best....and happy belated holidays.
 
 							Gerald Hughes >>

I checked on the same thing for mine, but I can't remember all the details.
I've heard from others on the list that it will in fact work, but can't
remember more than that, so hopefully they will reply.

In terms of another "stock" carb., try a junkyard, and see what they want for
it.  I got mine for $30 since the guy sold it to me "as is".  He had it on the
shelf, and he didn't want me bringing it back for any reason later (since it
was on the shelf, he didn't know whether it would work right, or not...).  It
was real clean, and has worked real good ever since.

Chris Ruper

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:14:07 PST
From: "Aaron Kollsmith" <kollsmith@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Just can't be satisfied... tuning tips for my 455?

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>I finally got the inspection sticker for my SX, so I'm all legal and
>everything (finally!). For over a decade I thought I'd be happy just to 
hear
>her running (and I am), but now that she's back on daily-driver status, 
I'm
>starting to feel the need for a bit more power... <who couldn't see 
*that*
>coming? :) > 
>
>Real satisfaction will have to wait until I build up my 455 as a 445, 
but in
>the meantime... I've got the '68 Toro engine in there, completely stock 
down
>to the intake and carb, and I'd like to optimize that setup as much as
>possible (once I pull it, it's going to be reunited with its original 
body
>shell, which Don Ross is restoring... long story). Anything more 
radical
>(cam change, porting, etc) will have to wait until the 445 buildup.
>
>1) Since the low-profile Toro air cleaner wouldn't clear the Cutlass
>throttle bracket, I went with an Edelbrock open-element 14" air 
cleaner. I'm
>getting a slight bog just over, say, 1/8 throttle, which clears up with 
more
>throttle. I've had this problem virtually every time I've replaced a 
snorkel
>air-cleaner with an open-element one. I'm assuming I need a slightly 
richer
>primary mixtuer; right now it's got the stock #71 jets, so should I 
move up
>a size at a time and see if it improves? Or is the solution in the 
primary rods?
>
>2) I'm going to recurve the distributor's mechanical and vacuum 
advance, but
>people here have mentioned tuning by changing from the factory 30' 
dwell;
>what's the advantage here, and which direction do you go, and what are 
the
>limits here? What are the tradeoffs?
>_______________________________________________________
>Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
>Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918
>
>Well, if the car is running lean all around, you would probably want to  
increase your fuel to air ratio.  But if it is just noticable at a 
specific throttle position you could increase the spring pressure under 
the power valve.  Doing this will lift the metering rods out of the jets 
sooner  into acceleration.  You could also increase your pump shot by 
simply stretching the accelerator pump spring.  Good Luck! :)


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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:24:08 PST
From: "Aaron Kollsmith" <kollsmith@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Intake & Carb

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>Hey everyone, it's great to be back on the list.  I missed it so! :)
>
>I am rebulding my Olds 350 (1979 VIN R) and I am having problems with
>the setup that I want.  I am hoping one of you guys may know if this
>will work, even if the dealer says don't do it.
>	
>	I have an Edelbrock Performer 600cfm mounted on my original
>intake....with a little modification it worked (even if it wasn't
>supposed to).  
>
>	I NEED a new intake and I wanted to go with the Edelbrock Performer
>Dual Plane (non-EGR).  The dealer says that it won't work becuase of 
the
>linkages, but I'm betting that there's a way to modify ANYTHING in 
order
>to get it to work.  
>
>	If there is no way to use this setup....does anyone know of someone
>with a stock "79" Quadrajet (rebuilt or not) that would either sell, or
>trade me for my Edelbrock Performer 600.  
>
>	You guys are the best....and happy belated holidays.
>
>							Gerald Hughes
>
I have a stock '78 QuadraJet that I will trade for your Edelbrock, if 
you're interested.  The carb has recently been rebuilt and has new 
pull-off's.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:29:50 -0600
From: Scott.Wheeler@pinnacle-brands.com
Subject: Re: Intake & Carb

In a message dated 98-01-16 12:17:12 EST, you write:
<<
     I NEED a new intake and I wanted to go with the Edelbrock Performer
 Dual Plane (non-EGR).  The dealer says that it won't work becuase of the
 linkages, but I'm betting that there's a way to modify ANYTHING in order
 to get it to work.

Gerald, I've got probably the same Carb...Edelbrock 1604?...I'm using it on
the stock intake (want a performer badly...can't afford) and found a
universal linkage mount plate that goes under the spacer plate that has an
arm coming off the back left with a variety of bolt holes for a linkage
bracket. I had to do minor mods but it works great.

I got my plate at Supershops...I think it is a Moroso product.

Good luck!

Scott Wheeler
68 442 Conv
Dallas

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:56:23 -0500
From: Gerald Hughes <ghughes@hughesconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: Intake & Carb

Aaron,
	Let's explore this further.  My # is (215) 750-8078.  Give me a call so
we can talk about this.  I'm here now.

							Gerald Hughes






Aaron Kollsmith wrote:
> 
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> >Hey everyone, it's great to be back on the list.  I missed it so! :)
> >
> >I am rebulding my Olds 350 (1979 VIN R) and I am having problems with
> >the setup that I want.  I am hoping one of you guys may know if this
> >will work, even if the dealer says don't do it.
> >
> >       I have an Edelbrock Performer 600cfm mounted on my original
> >intake....with a little modification it worked (even if it wasn't
> >supposed to).
> >
> >       I NEED a new intake and I wanted to go with the Edelbrock Performer
> >Dual Plane (non-EGR).  The dealer says that it won't work becuase of
> the
> >linkages, but I'm betting that there's a way to modify ANYTHING in
> order
> >to get it to work.
> >
> >       If there is no way to use this setup....does anyone know of someone
> >with a stock "79" Quadrajet (rebuilt or not) that would either sell, or
> >trade me for my Edelbrock Performer 600.
> >
> >       You guys are the best....and happy belated holidays.
> >
> >                                                       Gerald Hughes
> >
> I have a stock '78 QuadraJet that I will trade for your Edelbrock, if
> you're interested.  The carb has recently been rebuilt and has new
> pull-off's.
> 
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:13:29 +0500
From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong-Driveshafts

>I had just gotten my new hipo 200r4 and the 3.73 gears 

> I put the foot to the floor, hit third, wrapped 5300 rpm passed the van,
let >off the throttle-shifted fourth... >Then BOOM.., I look In my rearview
mirror to see the van dodging 1/2 my >driveshaft going end over end..
>(actually a funny site-The tow 60 miles back wasn't though)

>Has anyone else had a problem with the stock driveshafts? I'm nervous
everytime I downshift now... Or is >it my cursed luck, hehe

I'll bet you launched the driveshaft because it was turning such a high RPM.
Any rotating assembly has a point where it won't rotate any faster without
going ka-boom.  How fast a driveshaft can turn depends on the stregnth of
the driveshaft and how well it's balanced.  In addition if the driveshaft
alignment is off the driveshaft won't be able to spin as fast as it could.
I read an article about it in hot rod awhile back. (Don't remember exaclty
what issue it was, I think it was within the last 2 years.)  The article
said it's becoming a bigger problem now that overdrives are abundant.  Folks
get an overdrive for their ride to keep the engine happy on the highway with
low gears.  Problem is, most driveshafts can only be safely spun up to
something like 4500 rpm. (That's not the gospel, I don't have the article
handy so I'm quoting from a really crappy memory.  It could be more or less. )  

One reason for the driveshaft coming apart (just a guess here) after you
upshifted might be that you changed the driveshaft alignment ever so
slightly when you let up.  Perhaps if a U-joint, rearend bushing or tranny
mount was slightly weak it would allow the driveshaft angle to shift when
you let up.  Something like that may not be a problem at lower speeds but at
such high rpm it may have been the proverbial straw that broke the camel's
back.  Either way, the driveshaft just wasn't built to turn that fast.    

You could maybe try a driveshaft out of a `87 442 or GN, they had some
pretty low gears, maybe they had a stronger driveshaft or a more precise
balance.  You might also look into getting a stronger driveshaft out of a
truck or a heavier car.  They can be shortended and balanced, or of course
you could have one custom-built.  Obviously the cheapest thing to do is just
keep it under 90, but what's the fun in that. ;)  BTW, Was your driveshaft
solid or one of thoes deals where there's an outer shaft that is bonded with
rubber to an inner shaft?  The 2-piece driveshafts are smoother but
signifigantly weaker.  

The good news is that it's very hard to break a driveshaft on a street car
otherwise.  Especially with an automatic and a light car.  Most of the time
a U-joint breaks before a driveshaft ever will.

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:33:05 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Olds bumpers

Here's what the ad from JWO says (including typos, etc), minus what Steve said
was sold as of last night (Tuesday). The [maybe 1978] is my comment.

The following bumpers arc NOS. but shelf worn. Expect to find minor scratches in
chrome. Good for rechromiong or sweet ears. Prices are $100.00 each. including
UPS & packaging. What doesn't sell will go to the junkman to make room. FRONTS;
1973 Toronado - 1974 Cutlass (lower) - 1973 full 1976 Toronado- 1977-79 full
1980-81 full. REARS: 1973 "98" - 1974 "98" - 1974-75 "88 - 1977-79 full lower -
19?8 [maybe 1978] Cutlass Supreme - 1978-88 full size wagon (2 seater). Steve
DeNovi, 18650 S. 76th Avenue, Tinley Park, IL 60477 (708) 429-5505.

I over reacted a little bit in my original message regarding the "will go to the
junkman". But why not just say "no reasonable offer refused"??

Good hunting!
- -- 
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:35:43 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: you guys crack me up

- - -The VC sat in the same spot in the woods for a couple of years while it was
waiting for me to become old enough to drive.  As a result it became a
favorite winter storage spot for the local squirrels and home to a number of
mice.  I tried to clean up all the mess they left but when I started driving
it an occasional acorn would fall out from under the dash or out of the
heater when i hit a bump.  Took 2 years for the acorns to finally clear up.  

Greg Pruett
- ----------
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

First Sparkey, now Chip!
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:36:56 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Heads

I have been reading all the information about the new Edelbrock heads and
was very excited about them until I read that they require the tall valve
covers. Most of the catalogs that I have state that tall valve covers will
not work with power brakes or power steering. I have a '70 Olds 442 that
has both power steering and power brakes. What are my options. I am in the
middle of a frame off restoration and now would be a good time to switch
heads if I am going to do it.
- ----------
Instead of investing in expensive aftermarket covers, which might have a less
than desirable logo or no logo, what about having an aluminum spacer made that
would increase the height of the stock covers? You would probably need a 1/2 to
3/4 inch high spacer, right?

Downside is the cost of having them made up, and the additional sealing surface.
I would think the cost could be brought down if you drew up the dimensions to
the maker's liking. And the spacer could be RTV'd to the cover - with lots of
RTV because you can let it set for days before installing.

Chris Witt, maybe another Rocket Science part?
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:28:51 -0800 (PST)
From: PSHENG@scuacc.scu.edu
Subject: HELP!!!!! how do I adjust my carb?

I have a 72 cutlass supreme, 350, 4bbl quadrajet, auto trans, and I just
installed a pertronix ignition in place of the points and installed a crane
adjustable vaccum advance on the distrib.  I have the timing at about 11
degrees, and the vaccum advance is on the most sensitive setting.  It 
runs OK, except I can't get my god damn m%^#&^%$* f*&^*&%))(*& carburetor
adjusted so it idles right.

My friend said to adjust it so the idle is at about 1000 RPM, and then turn 
the idle mixture screws clockwise (lean) until it starts to die, then back off
1/2 turn (do one idle mixture screw at a time), and then adjust the idle speed
screw to where it's supposed to be (in my case, 1100 RPM in park, 600 RPM in gear)

I tried this, and I can turn the idle mixture screws all the way clockwise 
without the engine starting to stumble (this was with the idle speed screw 
set to 1000 rpm)  I tried it again with it idling at 800 RPM, but still the 
same thing.  Finally I just backed the mixture screws about 2 turns out, and 
adjusted the idle speed screw so it idles at about 1100 in park, 800 in gear.
I messed with it for 2 hours, and that's the best I could do, and it still
idles like s#$%@.  (idles rough, fluctuates about 50 RPM, dies when I put it
in gear if it's not fully warmed up)  No matter what I tried, I couldn't make
it idle 1100 RPM in park and 600 in gear.

HOW CAN I ADJUST MY CARB? Please reply immediately if you have any advice, 
because this is driving me nuts!!!  BTW, I did all this with the vaccum
advance hooked up... are you supposed to disconnect it before you adjust teh 
idle??

- -Paul

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:55:04 EST
From: AARONLIFE <AARONLIFE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong-lights

speaking of lights,

is there anyone who knows why my 69 442 won't start with the lights on?
it acts like a kill switch.

aaron

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:02:14 -0500
From: Ray Moriarty <rmoriarty@blairinc.com>
Subject: Title Search: Illinois

I am in the process of searching the title on my 442. I recently received
the title information from Oklahoma, where I purchased the car. Thanks to
Steven (w30442cs@aol.com) for the contact information in Oklahoma. The
car's title leads to Illinois. As a result, I have two questions about
title searching in Illinois. First, does Illinois provide a title search
service? Second, if they do, will someone please point me in the direction
of that info?

TIA
Ray
Alex. VA
70 442 Conv.
70 Cutlass Conv.

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:05:59 -0700
From: Tom Starkey <tstarkey@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

This HAS GOT TO BE the winner! 

Are you still employed with the same boss?

Tom Starkey

Knightvd wrote:
> 
> So I have my beater 90 Plymouth Acclaim.  Car's parked in lot at work, go to
> leave in afternoon, can't move shifter out of Park.  Pull hard on the SOB,
> something gives, hey car is in neutral, but now linkage is obviously detached.
> Apply parking brake, get under dash with screwdriver to take a look (laying on
> floor with feet over driver's seat).  Unscrew dash panel, uh oh, emergency
> brake lever is on this panel.  POP, there goes emergency brake, hey I'm
> moving.  Struggle to push on brake pedal with hand, but dash panel is in way.
> Coasting now at a good clip (face still under dash), jump a curb and smash
> into bosses car!
> 
> Cost me about 400 to repair his car.
> 
> Vince Knight
> 71 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:19:28 EST
From: KS7RACING <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Heads and V/C Spacers

I like that idea about the valvecover spacers, I know I'd use them on my race
cars. I built a custom valvecover back in 94 for the roundy-round car (as Dave
Smith calls it) using a Toronado valvecover. Now I have ones that are similar
to the covers I spied in the book "The Performance Years" on one of the alloy
455's. I have two tubes pointing straight up near the front of the cover,
which I put K&N breathers on. The early Toro valvecovers have the baffle in
the right place to do this as well as the opening for the PCV grommet/air
inlet tube & filter off-center and to the front for the left side of the
engine, which is the only side we have any opening on. The other side
valvecover is one we found on an early 330 that didn't have an opening at all.

With these spacers, we could use these covers with the advanced valvetrain
from DSE that uses the Crane roller rockers. Great Idea! Especially since
those Moroso covers are no good for us.

Ken Snyder
Ken Snyder Racing

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:42:55 +0000
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:26:01 -0600
From: Michael S Slocum <Michael.S.Slocum@marshmc.com>
To: mslocum@shrike.depaul.edu (Return requested)
Subject: Attitude is good!
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       Michelle, Please forward to all our friends and family! Thanks!
       
       Love, Michael.
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       ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING (written by Francie Baltazar-Schwartz)
       
       Jerry is the kind of guy you love to hate.  He is always in a good 
       mood and always has something positive to say.  When someone would 
       ask him how he was doing, he would reply, "If I were any better, I 
       would be twins!" He was a unique manager because he had several 
       waiters who had followed him around from restaurant to 
       restaurant.The reason the waiters followed Jerry was because of his 
       attitude.  He was a natural motivator. If an employee was having a 
       bad day, Jerry was there telling the employee how to look on the 
       positive side of the situation. Seeing this style really made me 
       curious, so one day I went up to Jerry and asked him, "I don't get 
       it!  You can't be a positive person all of the time. How do you do 
       it?"Jerry replied, "Each morning I wake up and say to myself, Jerry, 
       you have two choices today. You can choose to be in a good mood or 
       you can choose to be in a bad mood. I choose to be in a good mood.  
       Each time something bad happens, I can choose to be a victim or I 
       can choose to learn from it. I choose to learn from it. Every time 
       someone comes to me complaining, I can choose to accept their 
       complaining or I can point out the positive side of life. I choose 
       the positive side of life." "Yeah, right, it's not that easy," I 
       protested. "Yes it is,"  Jerry said. "Life is all about choices. 
       When you cut away all the junk, every situation is a choice.  you 
       choose how you react to situations.  You choose how people will 
       affect your mood. You choose to be in a good mood or bad mood.  The 
       bottom line: It's your choice how you live life." I reflected on 
       what Jerry said.  Soon thereafter, I left the restaurant industry to 
       start my own business.  We lost touch, but I often thought about him 
       when I made a choice about life instead of reacting to it.
       
       Several years later, I heard that Jerry did something you are never 
       supposed to do in a restaurant business:  he left the back door open 
       one morning and was held up at gunpoint by three armed robbers. 
       While trying to open the safe, his hand, shaking from nervousness, 
       slipped off the combination.  The robbers panicked and shot him.  
       Luckily, Jerry was found relatively quickly and rushed to the local 
       trauma center.  After 18 hours of surgery and weeks of intensive 
       care, Jerry was released from the hospital with fragments of the 
       bullets still in his body. I was with Jerry about six months after 
       the accident.  When I asked him how he was, he replied, "If I were 
       any better, I'd be twins.  Wanna see my scars?" I declined to see 
       his wounds, but did ask him what had gone through his mind as the 
       robbery took place.
       "The first thing that went through my mind was that I should have 
       locked the back door", Jerry replied. "Then, as I lay on the floor, 
       I remembered that I had two choices: I could choose to live or I 
       could choose to die.  I chose to live." "Weren't you scared?  Did 
       you lose consciousness?" I asked. Jerry continued, "The paramedics 
       were great.  They kept telling me I was going to be fine. But when 
       they wheeled me into the ER and I was looking at the expressions on 
       the faces of the doctors and nurses, I got really scared. In their 
       eyes, I read 'he's a dead man'.  I knew I needed to take action." 
       "What did you do?"  I asked. "Well, there was a big burly nurse 
       shouting questions at me,"said Jerry. "She asked if I was allergic 
       to anything.  'Yes' I replied. The doctors and nurses stopped 
       working as they waited for my reply. I took a deep breath and 
       yelled, 'Bullets! Over their laughter, I told them, 'I am choosing 
       to live. Operate on me as if I am alive, not dead." Jerry lived 
       thanks to the skill of his doctors, but also because of his amazing 
       attitude.  I learned from him that every day we have the choice to 
       live fully.  Attitude, after all, is everything. You have two 
       choices. now:
       
       1. Delete this.
       2. Forward it to the people you care about. 
       
       
       


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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:07:33 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Chrome tips

For what it's worth, the best chrome trumpets I've ever seen was the
inconel ones from Brother's.  I have an OLD OLD set from Walker still in
the box, but they aren't as good as quality in my opinion.

Congrats to Chris Sparks on finally getting that puppy done!!!!

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:29:27 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: Webpage update

James Thingwold wrote:
> 
>   Are you using Java?  If so then that is it.
> 
> I know enough to know we are using Java. Sorry if I killed you 8-)

For some reason, Netscape likes to lock on Java...  Sometimes, not all
ways, and the more frequent you use Netscape, the more often it does
it...  Has anyone seen a way to fix this???  I am not a Gates Fan, and
refuse to surf with IE, and Mail with Communicator.....  

Only fixes I saw were for NT, I am not an NT user..  <G> I am a 95
user..
- -- 
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:47:12 -0600
From: Brett Chaveriat <brett@mcs.com>
Subject: Re: What Can Go Wrong

A few years ago I was traveling along on a 4 lane road in the Chicago
suburbs
at at about 3 in the morning.  All was going well, when suddenly all the
lights
on the car blinked off and on, along with the engine stumbling.  I kinda
scratched
my head, but there was little I could do then, so I proceeded.  Shortly
after this,
the entire car shut off (engine, lights, etc).  I fully expected the
familiar 5 notes
from Close Encounters to begin playing, and a bright light to hover in
front of
me.  I am now coasting along on a road where it is pitch black, I'm
unlit,  and  no
driveways to turn into.  I finally came across one, and was able to turn
the corner
before it stopped.  I just sat there a while trying to figure what would
cause such a
sudden loss of everything, and to psyche myself to go out in the 10
below zero
temperature to debug the problem.  Everything looked fine under the
hood.  I figured
that I had a catestrophic power loss from the battery.  I crawled under
the car (an 78
Caprice beater), and found that the rusted out heat shield that sat
between the starter
and the exhaust manifold, had dropped down.  It was protected from
falling off the car
by the positive post on the starter.  This provided a convenient path
from the battery
to ground.  I could not get the shield off the car, so I beat it up
until it was trapped in
the manifold, and would not fall again.  This was over 5 minutes since I
had the problem,
so my battery was probably sitting at less than 1 millivolt by then!
Thankfully I had jumper
cables with me.
    Now the problem was to get somebody to stop for some guy standing on
the
side of the road with jumper cables.  My car was not directly visible
from the road
at that time, so I must have looked pretty suspicious at the time.
Incredibly, within
a half hour somebody stopped (there were very few cars on the road by
then).
I jumped it, and ran it for about 20 minutes before departing.  I got
only about 2 miles
before the car started running rough again, and had to stop to charge it
again (this was
with only flashers running).  I kept this up for the 8 miles home.
Later that day, I
charged the battery, and it was fine!  Who woulda thunk?
- --
Brett Chaveriat
mailto:brett@mcs.com

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