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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, January 31 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1080



Re: Olds "in the movies" list
Re: 1966 442 exhaust system
gas mileage
Re: Other Lists-ADDITIONAL INFO
Re: Use of your product 104+
Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes
Re: Need advice on Olds Purchase
Re: Priming Fuel to Pump
GN/SS/442 Exhaust on  a "Y" 307
Still looking
Re: More Power/Engine Availability
Re: Priming Fuel to Pump
Re: Super Shops
Re: Varsol  was Solvents
Re: Need advice on Olds Purchase
Re: I want to join please
Re: FORD fuel problem
Re: Pontiac list
Re: Buying parts from private parties
Re: Super Shops
Re: TH-200R4 ?'s
RE: Super Shops
Re: Pics
Re: Super Shops
Varsolved!
Re: Priming Fuel to Pump
Questions about my '71 Cutlass
Re: burning up points
Thermactor (sp??) valve in snorkel
Re: 1966 442 exhaust system
Re: Super Shops
Re: GN/SS/442 Exhaust on  a "Y" 307
Re: Big Block "C" Heads
Video from Doug Newman
455 Roller Cams
Re: G-body interchangeability with Buick
'76 added T-tops?
65 F85 Street Machine???
Re: Thermactor (sp??) valve in snorkel
Aftermarket Ignition Systems
Re: Super Shops
Re: 455 Roller Cams
Re: Varsolved!
Re: Aftermarket Ignition Systems
Re: Questions about my '71 Cutlass
Tranny
Re: Tranny
Re: Dual Exhaust on 1979 H/O
Re: 65 F85 Street Machine???
guage silkscreening
Re: RPTW32 specs.
Re: Questions about my '71 Cutlass
Edelbrock tri-power intake f/s
Re: 72 W30  Stencil kit
Installing factory console shifter questions
Re: 455 Roller Cams
Re: My dad's birthday
Re: Super Shops
Re: Super Shops
Received my w-30 hood
Re: Super Shops
Web page congrats!!
Olds Drool Page
Re: Super Shops
Re: Olds Drool Page
Super Shops, Erson, Mallory
Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine
Thanks for the help
Drool Page Continued!
Re: guage silkscreening
Re: Olds Drool Page
Re: Drool Page Continued!

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:48:53 -0600
From: Scott.Wheeler@pinnacle-brands.com
Subject: Re: Olds "in the movies" list

Hey,

What about Beverly Hills Cop II, not a great movie but Axel Foley drove a
nice Red w/white interior 69 Cutlass Supreme Convertible.

Scott Wheeler
68 442 Conv
Dallas

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 98 09:45 EST
From: turley@symplex.com (Mike Turley)
Subject: Re: 1966 442 exhaust system

> Need information on where I can buy an exhaust system for a 1966 442
> must come with chambered tail pipes Thank you.


The '66 and '67 exhaust systems are identical.  If you want the _best_
remanufactured system for your '66 then you need to get a hold of
Walt Vallelunga @ (810) 739-8255.

He makes the best "correct" 66 exhaust.  Chambered tail pipes w/ stainless
bezels (correct for 66/67 442), and they fit.  He also makes the exhaust pipes.
So all you would need is a some mufflers of correct dimensions.

They are kind of pricey, 300.00 for tail pipes, 450.00 for exhaust and tail
pipes.  If you are going for "correct" these are the ones to get.

Walt is in a northern suburb of Detroit, and many of the '66 & '67 442s
around here are running his exhaust.  I've never heard any complaints.

Mike Turley
turley@symplex.com

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:46:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Edwin Burger <erb22@yahoo.com>
Subject: gas mileage

I am going to be taking my '70 442 on a 5,000+ mile trip this summer,
and would like to improve the cars fuel economy for the trip.  Can
anyone think of any ideas?  How much would headers help?  What about
installing a 2.08 (or so) gearset into the rear?  An OD transmission?
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Ed
erb22@yahoo.com




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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:56:17 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Other Lists-ADDITIONAL INFO

Robert Schinkel wrote:
>
> If you find one Tom let me know I would be quite interested

Bob,

Sorry to only send part of what you needed.  When you get to chucko.cpm
you need to click on Fordnatics and then click on Richard Weltry's LIST
OF AUTOMOTIVE MAILING LISTS.  At that point you can pick what flavor you
want.  Sorry to not have included this in the original email.  Probably
an easier way to get there but that is how I got there.

Don (again)

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:55:57 -0600
From: Scott.Wheeler@pinnacle-brands.com
Subject: Re: Use of your product 104+

>R Thomas Wicks (from 104+) wrote:
> yes but the 442 after 1967 had hardened valve seats check with Olds
> you should not need valve lube

From all of my research, I've found that hardened valve seats weren't
introduced until '71 to allow the use of low lead/no lead fuel.

My 455 block is a"68-72" block with '73 heads and I'm here to testify that
it runs completely different with a full tank of Hi-octane (normal unleaded
93) & a can of 104+ than on the cheap stuff.


Scott Wheeler
68 442 Conv
Dallas

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:01:41 -0600
From: Scott.Wheeler@pinnacle-brands.com
Subject: Re: WTB: SSIII Chromes

>400-500$ for them.

I bought a nice set for $250, Centers included.

Keep shopping!

I bought them from the North Texas Auto Center. I have heard some negatives
on the amount of time needed to do a resto job (one guy said he was told 8
months and a year and a half later he had to pick up the peices and move it
out.) but a great parts source.

I'll post the phone ª next week.

Scott Wheeler
68 442 Conv
Dallas

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:08:55 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: Need advice on Olds Purchase

> Paul L. Fikaris wrote:
>
> sedans with 307 4bbl. Can anyone advise me on what's good/bad about a
> used one of these. I like the idea of a mid-sized car with a V-8
> (built-in Foop! with Foop being the sound a 4bbl V-8 makes when you
> stomp on it)

As far as I can tell, the only thing I see that goes screwy with these
(86/87s) is father time...  <G> Mine's an 87 with 134K on it, and it
runs like a top.  Not even a window is loose in the track, or a speaker
was blown, until I felt compelled to stick a CD player in, and crank it
up (poor Delcos).

> The candidates:
> 86 C/S - Factory towing package, special suspension?, tilt, AM/FM, new
> batt, brakes, muffler, tires, factory mags - $3000

Hmmm, not bad.  Didn't know that Olds had a towing package, even if it's
not original, so what. Mine ain't <G>

> 86 C/S - PW, PDL, etc., milage unknown (to me) Dealer - $2995

I dunno 'bout this one.  Depends on how it looks to me...  They probably
got it on the lot for $1800-2000 maybe.

> 87 C/S Brougham, 37k, new Michelins, battery, starter - $3500

37,000, or 137K...  Depending on looks, I'd say I'd go with this one..
<G>

> There is another as well, no details yet, guy wants $1800

Keep on it... I had seen worse cars than mine for around $3000..  And
mine's not show conidition, but it's not to far off...  Sure doesn't
look it's age!  In fact, it looks better than my dad's 88 Skyhawk he
always parked in the garage.  And I snagged it for $2000. (Divorce quick
sale)

- --
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:11:07 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: Priming Fuel to Pump

CCRR12@aol.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a good method of pulling/pushing fuel from gas tank to the
> fuel pump? I have reinstalled tank after cleaning and sealing it, as well as
> the fuel line. Before firing up the new engine I would like to have fuel to
> the pump immediately. I am in the process of adding new fuel lines and 
filters
> in the engine compartment.      ( with 3 carbs, plumbing is significant in
> this car)  I am betting that someone has had a memorable or Witt-less
> experience with this. Fire away!

Would holding the pedal to the floor, as if to flood it, work?

- --
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:52:06 -0600
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: GN/SS/442 Exhaust on  a "Y" 307

Are the Grand National/442/Monte Carslo SS exhaust after the cat
interchangeable?  Are the catalytics the same, or at least have the same
output flange?  The local parts store exhaust guide says the 442 and "Y"
307 cars from 81-88 have 2.25 in exhaust.  I have seen aftermarket stuff
for the GN saying 2.25 in.  I am looking for a dual exhaust after the
cat setup that is not a big expense.  I need an exhaust and I might as
well ditch the restrictive single I have.

I did note that the 442 and "Y" list the same cat in their book, but the
442 "9" showed a different pipe from the manifold to the cat.  Does this
sound right?

Has anyone had any experience with aftermarket exhaust for the G-Body?

Thanks!
Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:22:02 -0700
From: Gary Manton <sasgmm@unx.sas.com>
Subject: Still looking

Still looking for an AM/FM radio to go in my 64 Dynamic 88, anyone have one
laying around, or know where to pick one up?

G
          \\|//
          (o o)
~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Gary M. MantonSAS Institute
Business Solutions DivisionPhoenix, AZ  85012
(602) 265-1616 ext. 230 - voice        (602) 265-8585 - fax
(888) 982-4079 - Pager

"In business as in life, your chances of being run over are doubled
if you stay in the middle of the road"
~~~~~~oooo~~~~~oooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:22:01 -0700
From: Gary Manton <sasgmm@unx.sas.com>
Subject: Re: More Power/Engine Availability

I am in AZ and have a 62 394 that I bought as a temporary replacement while
mine gets rebuilt.  It has (from what I was told) 60k miles on it.  It has
been tuned up and running fine.  The only thing it needs are two freeze
plugs.  $750 (plus shipping) if anyone is interested, or come by and here it
run.

G
          \\|//
          (o o)
~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Gary M. MantonSAS Institute
Business Solutions DivisionPhoenix, AZ  85012
(602) 265-1616 ext. 230 - voice        (602) 265-8585 - fax
(888) 982-4079 - Pager

"In business as in life, your chances of being run over are doubled
if you stay in the middle of the road"
~~~~~~oooo~~~~~oooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:42:03 +0500
From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Subject: Re: Priming Fuel to Pump

>Does anyone have a good method of pulling/pushing fuel from gas tank to the
>fuel pump? I have reinstalled tank after cleaning and sealing it, as well as
>the fuel line. Before firing up the new engine I would like to have fuel to
>the pump immediately.

If you have one of thoes hand vacuum pump brake bleeder kits like a
Mightyvac or something similar you can hook it up to the fuel line and pump
the gas through with that.  If you don't have one they're about $30 at
Wal-Mart and very handy to have around.  You can use them to check just
about any vacuum operated part.  Most of the kits include a vacuum gauge as
well which can also come in handy.


Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:03:55 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

It's about time Stupid Shops Finally comes to grips that it takes more than
a few parts and YES we are having a tire sale to compete in this market.
Former Stupid Shop Employee.
Coy

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> From: WMACHINES@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Super Shops
> Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 10:21 PM
>
> In a message dated 98-01-30 00:52:31 EST, you write:
>
> << I just heard on the radio that the Super Shops speed shops are ALL
closing.
>   Right now they're advertising 40% discounts that will probably go up as
>  they get closer to final closing.  I'm pretty shocked, I hadn't heard
>  anything about this before now.  Are they anywhere else besides Calif?
>   >>
> the ones in Michigan are already closed and there was no announcement. If
you
> could,please send me the number of one of the cailf super shop stores. I
need
> to contact them about my warranty on their Mallery gauges
>
> thanks W MACHINES

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:09:35 -0500 (EST)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: Re: Varsol  was Solvents

Varsol has been around for at least 45 years and is great stuff.. I am
not sure that it is non-flammable however..

Al

On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Greg
Beaulieu wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, John Pajak wrote:
>
> >      There is a solvent called Varsol which is used in parts washers.
> > It is non-flammable. I am looking for a source to buy this stuff. I
> > have a parts washer and I need to fill it. Where can I buy Varsol or
> > something similar? I don't want to have to buy 55 gallons
> > though....5-10 gallons would do it. Although if I had to, I could get
> > 55 gallons and I'm sure I could sell it off 5 gallons at a time.
>
> John, you can buy the stuff around here in gallon jugs at most hardware
> stores, etc. I'm sure it must be available there too. Wouldn't Home Depot
> carry it?
>
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>

Al Varhus
Columbus, Ohio
http://www.infinet.com/~avar



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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:06:59 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: Need advice on Olds Purchase

>My commuter mobile has recently died and I'm in search of a good used =
>Olds to get back and forth to work. Thanks to this list I've discovered =
>some models I really wouldn't have thought of.=20
>
>I'm going to look at a few different 86-87 Olds Cutlass and C/S 4-door =
>sedans with 307 4bbl. Can anyone advise me on what's good/bad about a =
>used one of these. I like the idea of a mid-sized car with a V-8 =
>(built-in Foop! with Foop being the sound a 4bbl V-8 makes when you =
>stomp on it)
>
>The candidates:
>86 C/S - Factory towing package, special suspension?, tilt, AM/FM, new =
>batt, brakes, muffler, tires, factory mags - $3000
>86 C/S - PW, PDL, etc., milage unknown (to me) Dealer - $2995
>87 C/S Brougham, 37k, new Michelins, battery, starter - $3500
>There is another as well, no details yet, guy wants $1800

I would certainly go for the first candidate; price is good, and that
"towing package" give you heavy duty cooling and perhaps a rear gear ratio
that will give you better performance. It won't be a hot-rod, but it will
be satisfying.

As for performance, the '86-'88 rwd Cutlasses had an engine optimized for
low-end torque, so performance is great in the 500-3500rpm range;
unfortunately, the factory engine is pretty much optimized for that range,
so any additional "hot-rodding" would likely diminish performance, unless
you changed *everything* (cam, heads, intake, exhaust, carb, etc).

If you plan on leaving it completely stock, then this won't be a problem;
in fact, you can take pride in driving a factory "hot-rod", since that
little 307 has all the tricks that you could possibly put in it to make
low-rpm power (roller cam, swirl-port heads, tubular exhaust manifolds,
tuned carb, OD transmission, etc). It's just that you can't get any more
out of it; the factory already did what it could.
__________________________________________________________
Bob Barry       MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu

1969 Toronado 455/TH425
     See it at http://www.execpc.com/~gkalkhof/drbob69.htm
1970 Cutlass Supreme SX 455/TH400
1978 Electra Limited 409/TH400

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:01:03 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: I want to join please

>Two older (but not too old) Olds nuts would like to join please.
>Dennis has a 1972 Old's Cutlass Supreme and a 1976
>Cutlass Salon with a glass T-roof from Hurst added to it.
 [snip]
>Me, I'm the unauthorized assistance, I keep a eye on the remaining
>car if he takes one to a show, makes sure he pays his due to the club,
>help tie up the cars in their special blankets and tarps using bungee
>cords in the winter and driving around in the cars, bragging about
>them and finding Olds Web sites (the best part)to see what cars everyone
>got.  So there you go.

Welcome, Dennis and Barb! There's a lot of Olds talk on this list, and if
you sent your "s*bscribe" message to the list server, you're already joined!

Feel free to ask questions about your cars, or especially to offer advice
or insights that you have gained from working on your cars. Or just tell us
a story about how the last car show went. Any and every kind of
Olds-related talk is welcome here.

If the constant stream of messages becomes overwhelming, you can subscribe
to the list in "digest" mode, which packs up a bunch of messages in one
bundle, and you only get a new bundle once or twice a day.
__________________________________________________________
Bob Barry       MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu

1969 Toronado 455/TH425
     See it at http://www.execpc.com/~gkalkhof/drbob69.htm
1970 Cutlass Supreme SX 455/TH400
1978 Electra Limited 409/TH400

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:17:56 -0800
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: FORD fuel problem

Daren & Laurie Hendley wrote:
>
> single 34 gallon tank. It does suck every other week when I have to
> shell out $30 to fill it.

Your gas cost you $0.88/gal?  Where are you located?

Chris Sparks

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:15:02 -0600
From: "Paul L. Brillhart" <PBRILL1@uic.edu>
Subject: Re: Pontiac list

Don Sowers wrote:

> Robert Schinkel wrote:
> >
> > If you find one Tom let me know I would be quite interested



Try www.pontiac1.com for starters.  There is a page for posting
questions and answers there.

Paul Brillhart

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:56:56 -0500
From: "Kerr, Brian (R)" <kerrb@basf-corp.com>
Subject: Re: Buying parts from private parties

From: Esko Ilola
To: Oldsmobile Mail List
Subject: Re: Buying parts from private parties
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 11:22AM

>
>A suspicious attitude against people limits Your actions. For some reason I
>have a very
>nice picture of the people around me. Life is just TOO SHORT to be wasted
in thinking
>everything twice. If You get ripped because of Your optimistic attitude,
>consider it as
>the prize of broader smile and longer life !

>x Esko Ilola       mailto:esko.ilola@tele.fi         x
>x                  mailto:esko.ilola@tele.telebox.fi x
x

I like your attitude!

Brian Kerr
69 Cutlass Conv

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:19:17 -0600
From: "Paul L. Brillhart" <PBRILL1@uic.edu>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

James Thingwold wrote:

> I just heard on the radio that the Super Shops speed shops are ALL
> closing.
>  Right now they're advertising 40% discounts that will probably go up
> as
> they get closer to final closing.  I'm pretty shocked, I hadn't heard
> anything about this before now.  Are they anywhere else besides Calif?
>
> Lisa Madsen
> Anaheim, CA
>

In Chicago, all but one at First and 95th has closed.  It happened at
the end of lat year.

Paul Brillhart

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:29:51 -0500
From: Andy Geeting <geetinag@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Subject: Re: TH-200R4 ?'s

At 12:58 PM 1/23/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>I have 2.14 gears now, and have been thinking of disabling the lockup as
>>the 350 in there now is not cammed for the 2.14's.  When I get a new cam
>>ground for the low RPM, I will probably try it again.  But right now 43
>>MPH is too slow for a lockup to come in, and when I drive back and forth
>>to work at 45-60, It is D@mn annoying!  I will probably change to a
>>THM350 (not C) when this THM200C craps out.
>>
>>Please give some reasonable info about the lockup and cooling.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Thomas Martin
>>1985 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
>>
>
>        I too drive between 35-50mph and the converter goes in and out of
>lock up.  Last tankful I drove most of it in D, but after getting 16mpg
>(307), that option is out.  This summer I was thinking of installing a
>switch to control the lockup (mine locks up @~45mph).  Will this adversely
>affect the tranny in anyway. (increased heat, wear, etc.)
>
>        Also, I believe the computer controls the lockup (does it control
>overdrive too?).  My tranny shifts erratic once in awhile.  Shifting into
>3rd and OD (lockup) below 35mph.  Sometimes if I press down, and drive
>through the pinging, it will shift, other times it won't and will "chatter".
>Where should I start to look?  Are there vaccumm lines or kickdown cables I
>should check?  I was going to wait till summer to worry about messing with
>it, but since all the TH-200R4 ?'s are happening now I figured I'd throw
>mine into the mix.  TIA.
>
>
>
>
>Jim H.
>'87 Salon
>...Still looking for shop manuals...
>
>
> I was thinking maybe you could try a Hypertech power chip. I've read that
these raise the torque converter lockup until you are at a cruising speed.
Allowing you to stay in 4th gear around town. I was going to look into this
because my '87 Cutlass Supreme locks up around 35 mph. It's very annoying!!
Then you have to push the pedal halfway to the floor to get it to unlock.
I've tried driving around in 3rd gear (D) but since I had that 3.73 rearend
put in, it makes my car smell really hot.
     So to make a long story short, I was thinking of trying a Hypertech
power chip. Just a suggestion.

Andy Geeting
'87 Cutlass Supreme
'88 Cutlass Supreme Classic Brougham
'74 Delta 88 convertible
'78 Caprice wagon
'36 Plymouth coupe

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:18:21 -0000
From: "GREGG GREER" <gregg@inficad.com>
Subject: RE: Super Shops

I stopped by to purchase a few things and spoke with the manager of the
Phx. Super Shops store last week and he said they were going out of
business (all parts are being liquidated at 10-20% off).  They closed the
Mesa store a couple of weeks ago and had moved all their inventory to the
Phx. store to be sold.  Unfortunate for me, I had already purchased most of
the things I needed to complete my rebuild just before the sale had started
(DOHHHHHH!!!!).  They still had a couple of Performer Olds 455 intakes in
stock yesterday when I checked and they're goin' for $195 each (I guess
thats only 10% off the regular price).  A friend of mine purchased a Carter
AFB Performance 750 CFM for $179, which is a good price (cheaper than $182
going rate in the Summit Catalog).  So if there's a Super Shops near you,
you might want to check it out.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:29:10 -0500
From: Jim Hurd <jhurd@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: Pics

>Right now I have about 20 pictures of my car in an undeveloped roll of
>film.  I have $0.72 dollars right now because I am a college student
>getting dicked around by this stupid school.  They have a large sum of
>money of mine,
>
>
>Ray finally driving the 409 Rocket again Costanzo
>87 409 Cutlass
>
>

Ray,

        I see you go to Kent State University too.  :-)




Jim H.
'87 Salon

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:26:44 -0500
From: Brian Richardson <brian.richardson@mci.com>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

Heard it on the radio...They are leaving us. OUT OF BUSINESS


At 12:43 PM 1/30/98 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>The Super Shops closest to me in Dallas, is having a big sale with
>>everything marked "No returns". I figured they were going out of
>>business, but they haven't said anything about in the store.
>>
>>Stephen Hoover
>>Dallas, Texas
>>'70 Cutlass "S"
>>
>I guess I should stop by the shop closest to me and see whats going on if
>they will tell me any thing.  They havent said anything or advertised
>anything. It would be bad if they just pack up and leave overnite.  I
>stopped in 2 weekends ago and priced a couple things and they didnt say
>anything.
>Clarence
>86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
>San Antonio
>
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:41:02 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak <jspajak@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Varsolved!

     Thanks for the help on the Varsol! Now I'll be able to put my
parts washer back in business. I do need a pump for it though....I'm
thinking about using an old electric fuel pump.
     Oh yeah, does anybody have an easy way of removing the
radio/heater control trim on a 81-88 Cutlass without damaging it?
Hopefully it won't involve a block of wood and a hammer :) (are you
listening Chris?)

===
John Pajak                         JSPajak@rocketmail.com
Lexington Park, Maryland  HTTP://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak

65 Delta 88 2dr    70 Cutlass S 2dr       72 Cutlass conv
66 Toronado deluxe 70 Cutlass S W31       72 Delta 88 conv
69 Cutlass S 2dr   70 442 W30 conv        72 442 W30 conv
70 Cutlass S 2dr   71 Cutlass Supreme 2dr 86 Cutlass Supreme




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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:44:15 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Priming Fuel to Pump

In a message dated 98-01-30 00:41:22 EST, you write:

<< Does anyone have a good method of pulling/pushing fuel from gas tank to the
 fuel pump >>

Disconnect coil wire and crank motor until bowls filled. Just make sure that
coil
wire is not close enough with other metal to jump spark ..

This is easiest way I know of short of having electric pump.

Rgds,
Rob Thomas
69 442

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:48:58 -0600
From: Larry Martino <lmmsr@flash.net>
Subject: Questions about my '71 Cutlass

to start off, I'm not even sure if it is a 71. It has a few 72 parts
 and I would like to find out what the original car was. It has a 72 442
 hood, but I only have a 350. The bumper is also a 72, but the only
 differance is the light covers. Can somebody help me figure it out?
  I need new seats in the back. Should I just get seat covers? Should I
 have them redone completely? What are the price ranges? Help would be
 appreciated.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:58:27 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: burning up points

In a message dated 98-01-30 00:52:21 EST, you write:

<< I have a situation that has me puzzeled. My 65 442 is finally back on
 the road. The Lunati cam that Dick Miller suggested (ª0080) is a real
 stud. I seem to be burning up points and above 4k rmp in the 4bbl it
 seems to loose power. >>

Unless your into the "original" equipment scene... get a HEI and have it
curved to your specs and be done with it..... Can't even compare vs. points.

My $.02

Rgds,
R.Thomas
69 442
Rg

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:03:31 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Thermactor (sp??) valve in snorkel

Just replaced the open element aircleaner on my 69 350 with Edelbrock
4V, with the original 2V,snorkel air cleaner. I opened up the throat
of the aircleaner to fit the four barrel and also used a one inch
spacer to clear the HEI.

My problem is this:
The thermactor valve in the snorkel closes as soon as I start the
engine like it's supposed to, but it doesn't open again. At least it
didn't open after idling for 10 minutes and then a seven or eight mile
run. The temp is only about 30 deg, but the car should have been fully
warmed up. It ran fine for this whole time.
After this warm up, I disconnected the vacuum hose at the carb and the
valve snapped open. When I connected it again, it closed again.
Is this normal behavior or is the sensor inside the aircleaner shot?
Should I just run the car with the vacuum port plugged and forget
about the Thermactor valve? It doesn't seem to run any differently,
with or without the valve connected. Then again, it hasn't been all
that cold either, or I wouldn't be driving the car in the first place
:-).

Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass S convertible
OCAª 29770
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:01:12 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1966 442 exhaust system

In a message dated 98-01-30 00:52:46 EST, you write:

<< Need information on where I can buy an exhaust system for a 1966 442
 must come with chambered tail pipes Thank you.   >>

Walt Veullenga (S?) has repoed these for several years now and are
as correct in every detail as I've seen. He lives in Michigan north of Detroit
and I think advertises in JWO .

If not I can get his address/ph for ya.

Rgds,
R.Thomas
69 442

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:37:15 EST
From: StafRT007@aol.com
Subject: Re: Super Shops

I know that the Super Shop stores have closed in El Paso and Lubbock Tx and I
never heard them give notice of this or advertise a sale, just went by one day
to get something and the building was empty.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:37:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Yasczak <VJTD@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Re: GN/SS/442 Exhaust on  a "Y" 307

I don't have experience with aftermarket, but I did have a 442 exhaust system
put on my code Y '87 Cutlass Salon.  I don't recall it being that pricey
(around $500-$600 installed)  I believe that Delco also has a lifetime
gaurantee.  The system sounds great and I haven't had any problems so far with
it.  I think that I had new pipes from the engine back, along with a stock
aftermarket converter (About $100 more), I can't recall at this time since my
car is in storage while I'm at school.

Robb Yasczakvjtd@grove.iup.edu

1969 442
1969 Cutlass S Convertible
1976 442
1987 Cutlass Salon

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:42:09 EST
From: StafRT007@aol.com
Subject: Re: Big Block "C" Heads

The 350 is complete (minus a few bolts) from intake to oil pan.  It has 48000
original miles on it and ran fine when I took it out.  It is stock except for
an Edelbrock performer intake.  The tranny is a stock TH-400 that I bought to
put in my Cutlass, but I ended up having the TH-350 rebuilt instead.  It came
out of a full size Olds and looks like its in pretty good shape to me.  I'd
trade strait across for the tranny.  If you want to trade for the motor, say
the heads and $100? (obo of course)

Thanks

Ryan

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:08:30 EST
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Video from Doug Newman

    I recieved my video from Doug Newman today. GREAT WORK DOUG

   Great music along with the views of the cars, saw my car a few times, once
comming off the trailer and once in the parade along with a lot of other cars
I reconized. It will bring great memories for a long time
   Don't hesitate to order yours for only $20.00 if you weren't there you will
feel like you were

 Send your $20.00 which includes shipping to:

Doug Newman
22 Ridge Rd
Columbus, Ms. 39701



Everett  OCAª 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:41:19 -0500
From: "Michael A. Evans" <evans1@net-link.net>
Subject: 455 Roller Cams

Does anyone have any experiences *good or bad* running a roller cam setup
in a 455?

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:48:01 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: G-body interchangeability with Buick

Gerald Hughes wrote:
>
> Guys,
>         It's only a hood.  Take the 30 minutes to actually try it and stop
> guessing.  Sheez.

And how many $$$ to buy it from the junkyard ~before~ you find out if it
works????    :)



- --
               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
        Sidney Montana

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:53:36 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: '76 added T-tops?

> >1976 Cutlass Salon with a glass T-roof from Hurst added to it.

Ooh, ~that~ sounds interesting.  Can't wait to see pic's of that!  (Sure
hope they got sub'd correctly!)  Any pic's on a web page anywhere???
- --
               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
        Sidney Montana

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:00:41 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: 65 F85 Street Machine???

Local friend found one of these, with "Street Machine" in chrome on the
rear deck lid (trunk, for the laymen out there:) I'm guessing it's one
of those K-mart emblems, but he says it looks really similar to the Olds
emblem's lettering.  Any clues????  I'll go look at it tonight and get
some more "Oldsmobile experienced judgements" on it.  Anyone ever heard
of such a thing?


               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
        Sidney Montana

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:23:37 -0400
From: hitson@leadbelt.com
Subject: Re: Thermactor (sp??) valve in snorkel

<snipped>
>
>My problem is this:
>The thermactor valve in the snorkel closes as soon as I start the
>engine like it's supposed to, but it doesn't open again.
<snipped>

>Is this normal behavior or is the sensor inside the aircleaner shot?
<snipped>
>
>Mick Gillespie
>69 Cutlass S convertible
>OCAª 29770
>mgillespie@sprynet.com
>http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
>
The crappy little vacuum switch inside the air cleaner is likely shot. Last
time I priced one at GM dealer, it was $28.xx plus tax. I opted to go
without and leave the door open all the time. I can't really tell much -- if
any -- difference in warm-up time.  You be the judge as to what's for you.

roger hitson

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:31:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Warren Whitmore - MHNG/F95 <wwhitmor@acs.ryerson.ca>
Subject: Aftermarket Ignition Systems

I would like to hear from people who have used ignition systems
such as Jacobs, MSD, Crane(Allison), Accel 300+ or Holley Annihilator.
I'm interested in putting one in my 75 Delta 88 to beef up my HEI and I
have a friend who's interested in putting one in his 67 Mustang.  After
seeing what some of you guys have said about the Pertronix Ignitor, I'd
like to get some opinions before I go ahead and buy anything.

Thanks
Warren

1975 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale 4-Door Hardtop
400 2bbl Pontiac.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:11:27 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

Super Shops in California has filled bankruptcy against me for money owed
to me.

Thanks Coy

- ----------
> From: StafRT007@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Super Shops
> Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 11:37 AM
>
> I know that the Super Shop stores have closed in El Paso and Lubbock Tx
and I
> never heard them give notice of this or advertise a sale, just went by
one day
> to get something and the building was empty.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:16:54 -0500
From: "Chris Urban" <urbanch@magi.com>
Subject: Re: 455 Roller Cams

Lots! What do you need to know?


- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael A. Evans <evans1@net-link.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 6:14 PM
Subject: 455 Roller Cams


>Does anyone have any experiences *good or bad* running a roller cam setup
>in a 455?
>
>
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:53:25 -0600
From: Matthew Mayer <mmayer@interaccess.com>
Subject: Re: Varsolved!

John Pajak wrote:
<snip>
>      Oh yeah, does anybody have an easy way of removing the
> radio/heater control trim on a 81-88 Cutlass without damaging it?
> Hopefully it won't involve a block of wood and a hammer :) (are you
> listening Chris?)
<snip>
John,
  I hate to say it, but as I recall it's held on the same way all of the
dash trim pieces are: basically bent metal prongs....just get your
fingers underneath it and start pulling--gently.  It shoudl take a
little force to get going but it will pop right off after a certain
point.  I have also found that a paint can opener can help get you
started...

- --
- ---Matt
Chicago, IL
'86 442
- --------------------------------------------------------
mailto:mmayer@interaccess.com    |  VM: 800-481-1323
- --------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:11:13 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Ignition Systems

In a message dated 98-01-30 18:05:08 EST, you write:

<< I would like to hear from people who have used ignition systems
 such as Jacobs, MSD, Crane(Allison), Accel 300+ or Holley Annihilator.
 I'm interested in putting one in my 75 Delta 88 to beef up my HEI and I
 have a friend who's interested in putting one in his 67 Mustang >>


 I run a MSD 6AL with a MSD blaster II coil with GM HEI dist.
Had The Carb Shop in Calif. rebuild the dist. and curve it to my
specs. Couldn't be happier with this set up .  Have had on for 2+ years now
and hasn't missed a beat...

Rgds,
R.Thomas
69 442

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:24:52 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about my '71 Cutlass

Larry:

What is the VIN ª?  List members will easily tell you what year it is.

- -Loris

Larry Martino wrote:
>
> to start off, I'm not even sure if it is a 71. It has a few 72 parts
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:31:28 -0500 (EST)
From: ted rollins <trollins@rfci.net>
Subject: Tranny

I have a 72 olds cutlass with a 350 2bbl carb ,I keep reading about the
th-400 and the th-350.Is this the kind of transmission used in this model of
car? what does the Th mean and what tranny would my olds have from the factory?

Ted Rollins
63 chevy truck
66 olds cutlass
72 olds cutlass
94 olds cutlass

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:10:04 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Tranny

> I have a 72 olds cutlass with a 350 2bbl carb ,I keep reading about the
> th-400 and the th-350.Is this the kind of transmission used in this model of
> car? what does the Th mean and what tranny would my olds have from the
factory?

If I were a betting man, your car has the TH-350 from the factory.  The
TH is short for "Turbo-Hydramatic", a GM term for their line of
automatic transmissions, similar to Chrysler's "Torqueflite".  Just a
name.  The TH-400 was normally found behind the big inch Olds engines,
due to it's beefier makeup.  It simply was designed to take more input
torque/horsepower.  Now with that said, a TH-350 CAN be built to be
virtually bulletproof too with less reciprocating weight than the 400.

Easy way to tell by the pan shape.  The TH-400 is elongated, with a
'bump' along the side.  Sorta ugly, and non-symmetrical.  The TH-350 has
a square pan, with a small triangle "cut" out of one corner of that
square.  Good trannys, either one of them.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:21:23 -0600
From: dnewman@wcbi.com (Doug Newman)
Subject: Re: Dual Exhaust on 1979 H/O

Jason Adcock wrote:

>Yep, that's how I have my 84 Calais and it works quite nice.  I don't know
if my >307 moves enough air to make "true-dual's" worth the hassle, but I
think a H/O or >442 exhaust system from 83-87 wouldn't be all that 
unreasonable.

You're right, Jason.  An '87 442 factory exhaust sounds GOOD!  :-)

Doug Newman
Columbus, MS
1987 442

http://www.442.com/newman.html

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:14:48 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 65 F85 Street Machine???

> Local friend found one of these, with "Street Machine" in chrome on the
> rear deck lid

A few years ago, don't know if they're still available though, Mr.
Gasket's "Daytona" series of parts had this very item.  It does sorta
look Oldsmobile-ish in the shape of the script letters.  It was a
stick-on type emblem.  I think they also had one called "Hot Rod".

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:40:45 -0600
From: Kurt Bonifay <kbonifay@bellsouth.net>
Subject: guage silkscreening

Greetings from Pensacola,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with silkscreening guages.
To be a bit more specific, the outer ring on my tach (rallye pac) which
for my '68 442.  I have found several sources in Hemmings Motor News.  I
thought I'd ask y'all first before racking up long distance charges.  So
far, the Clock Doc said he didn't have the templates.  I'll be sure to
post my findings if I see any.  By the way, I have definitely enjoyed
being included in this list.

Thanks,
Rhett  68 442 conv (4spd even)

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:57:01 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: RPTW32 specs.

> > << Did Olds ever use a 4.11 rear end anyone? >>
> >
> > Don't believe so... could get a 3:91 factory or 4:33  up to 5:something
> > as dealer installed option.


Here's what I have:
'64 - sorry, don't know
'65 - 3.55 highest from factory, no dealer installed listed
'66 - 3.90 highest from factory, 4.11 & 4.33 available from dealer
'67 - 3.91 highest from factory, not sure of dealer options
'68 - 3.91 highest from factory, 4.33 & 4.66 available from dealer
'69 - 3.91 highest from factory (3.73 if Canadian), 4.33 & 4.66
available from dealer
'70 - 3.91 highest from factory, 4.33, 4.66 & 5.00 available from dealer
'71 - 3.73 highest from factory, 4.10, 4.66 & 5.00 available from dealer
'72 - 3.73 highest from factory, no dealer installed listed

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:48:21 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about my '71 Cutlass

Larry Martino wrote:
>
> to start off, I'm not even sure if it is a 71. It has a few 72 parts
>  and I would like to find out what the original car was. It has a 72 442
>  hood, but I only have a 350. The bumper is also a 72, but the only
>  differance is the light covers. Can somebody help me figure it out?
>   I need new seats in the back. Should I just get seat covers? Should I
>  have them redone completely? What are the price ranges? Help would be
>  appreciated.

Post the VIN and the cowl tag info, it will be decoded (gentlemen, get
your books ready...)
The exterior differences from '71 to '72 were minor - different tail
light lenses, different headlight bezels, etc.  However, in '72 the 442
came standard with the 350.

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:06:13 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Edelbrock tri-power intake f/s

Just found this on ebay, and thought it might be of some interest to
some of you with early '50s Olds (or to Joe Padavano)

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:07:42 EST
From: EDZX6@aol.com
Subject: Re: 72 W30  Stencil kit

Coy,
  I'm interested in this vinyl stripes.  I'm planing on having my 72 painted
in the near future.  How do this stripes get put on the car? I don't know
anything about them.

Eddie
72 Cutlass S

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:12:24 EST
From: StafRT007@aol.com
Subject: Installing factory console shifter questions

I have a 70 F-85 with a column shifter.  I recently aquired a factory console
shifter and need some help putting it in.  What do I need and how do I do it?
Thanks for any help.

Ryan

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:15:42 -0500
From: "Michael A. Evans" <evans1@net-link.net>
Subject: Re: 455 Roller Cams

Well......what have you tried.....what worked....and what didn't?

At 06:16 PM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Lots! What do you need to know?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael A. Evans <evans1@net-link.net>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 6:14 PM
>Subject: 455 Roller Cams
>
>
>>Does anyone have any experiences *good or bad* running a roller cam setup
>>in a 455?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:17:20 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: My dad's birthday

As a matter of fact its my Dad's birthday also - he isn't an Olds man but
he did start me out in cars!!!


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Glass Line's Bulletin Board: http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/oldsbbs/index.cgi

Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:12:17 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

That's why I posted the note - they're radio ad says "ALL".  Hadn't heard
anything up to now.  Guess I'd better call my buddy who owns his own speed
shop & get the low-down, he'll probably be rubbing his hands together with
glee over this.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Glass Line's Bulletin Board: http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/oldsbbs/index.cgi

Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:13:37 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

There is one on Beach Blvd. in Huntington Beach, coming down Beach north
its before Adams.  That one has been around a long time.  Was the Santa Ana
one the one that moved to the new location around Oct of last year?


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Glass Line's Bulletin Board: http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/oldsbbs/index.cgi

Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:47:05 -0500
From: "deirdre. reilly" <102724.635@compuserve.com>
Subject: Received my w-30 hood

Well, I received my fiberglass hood from US Body Source this evening.  I'm
both happy and dissappointed with this order.  Overall quality seems very
good.  I ordered the heavy-duty hood so I can use my stock hinges.  I was
expecting a rather flimsy piece of plastic, but it's quite rigid, so I'm
happy about that.

I'm a little dissappointed with their lack of protective shipping material.
 The hood basically came in a cardboard box.  As a result it sustained some
minor damage.  The front "peak" is slightly cracked, and both back corners
are cracked and chipped.  Neither seems unrepairable, but I'm ticked off
that I spent all that money and they can't package it correctly.

I did a quick inspection while the delivery guy was at my house, but I
didn't notice, so now I have to call the trucking company, as well as US
Body Source, and complain.  Hopefully, one of them will be able to help pay
for the necessary repairs.

I'm not able to check fit and alignment because my Cutlass is at the body
shop for a thorough once over, for my paint estimate.  But it looks pretty
close to the original shape.  Maybe I'll check it with my brother's Cutlass
tomorrow.

I just wanted to warn everyone here in case you might have ordered
something form them.

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme
'83 Cutlass Ciera

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:20:28 -0800
From: Chris & Robin <cya442@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

Yes I think that it may have closed around then, I was still in Okinawa but 
when
I got back in Nov. it was shut down and had moved to some other location.  Oh
well, Summit here I come!

- --
Chris Miller
'68 442
Tustin, CA
mailto:cya442@mindspring.com


James Thingwold wrote:

> There is one on Beach Blvd. in Huntington Beach, coming down Beach north
> its before Adams.  That one has been around a long time.  Was the Santa Ana
> one the one that moved to the new location around Oct of last year?
>
> Lisa Madsen
> Anaheim, CA
>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:23:26 -0800
From: Chris & Robin <cya442@mindspring.com>
Subject: Web page congrats!!

Congrats to Lisa on her Web Page!  It was featured in this months JWO!!  I
didn't know that they were paying attention to the Web.  I guess I had better
get off my butt and finish my Olds Page!

- --
Chris Miller
'68 442
Tustin, CA
mailto:cya442@mindspring.com

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 22:40:27 -0500
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Olds Drool Page

All this talk about pictures of Oldsmobile's lit a fire under my butt!

Check out the newly added "Oldsmobile Drool Page" in my web site.  More to
come soon!  BTW, all pictures are from last years "Homecoming" show in
Lansing.

Enjoy,

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt. - see it at:
1995 Achieva S

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell/

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:39:27 -0500
From: "John Gill" <jgill@idmi.com>
Subject: Re: Super Shops

Lisa,

Super Shops WAS in Ohio - about 3 miles from Summit Auto Racing.  Their
store here closed about 6 months ago.  I just figured it was due to tight
local competition.  I guess times are tough all over.  I know they are
(were) also in Texas, etc...

John Gill
jgill@idmi.com
- ----------
> I just heard on the radio that the Super Shops speed shops are ALL
closing.
>  Right now they're advertising 40% discounts that will probably go up as
> they get closer to final closing.  I'm pretty shocked, I hadn't heard
> anything about this before now.  Are they anywhere else besides Calif?
>
>
> Lisa Madsen
> Anaheim, CA

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:28:53 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Drool Page

- -----Original Message-----
From: RC Hellebuyck <mrhell@sprynet.com>
To: Olds e-mail List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 11:14 PM
Subject: Olds Drool Page


>All this talk about pictures of Oldsmobile's lit a fire under my
butt!
>
>Check out the newly added "Oldsmobile Drool Page" in my web site.
More to
>come soon!  BTW, all pictures are from last years "Homecoming" show
in
>Lansing.

hmm. I can see the squares, but Where's the Olds??

Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass S convertible
OCAª 29770
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 00:01:23 EST
From: Oldsnut@aol.com
Subject: Super Shops, Erson, Mallory

In a message dated 98-01-30 00:52:26 EST, you write:

<< I just heard on the radio that the Super Shops speed shops are ALL closing.
>>

This is what I heard concerning Super Shops, Erson Cams, and Mallory Ignition.
They are all owned by the same company and are ALL going out of business.
ASAP mail order was also owned by this company and it closed its doors a few
months ago.  So all of you with Mallory ignition parts better sock up on
replacement parts.

Paul Pate
Mechanical Design Engineer
Port Neches, Texas
70 Cutlass S (350-4V, TH-350, 12-bolt 3.08)
84 Camaro (305-4V, TH-700, 10-bolt 3.08)

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 00:10:12 EST
From: Oldsnut@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1962 F-85 w/ alum. engine

In a message dated 98-01-29 04:01:14 EST, you write:

<< Hey, why ya tellin him that?  I was gonna get that car and sell it to
 someone else on the list for ten times that, damn it!
  >>

Well, the car is sort of promised to another co-worker.  Believe me, I am
going to keep tabs on this car.  If I constantly wave $300 cash under his nose
for a while, he might change his mind.  I just have no idea where I would put
this car... as usual.

Paul Pate
Mechanical Design Engineer
Port Neches, Texas
70 Cutlass S (350-4V, TH-350, 12-bolt 3.08)
84 Camaro (305-4V, TH-700, 10-bolt 3.08)

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:43:52 -0600
From: Larry Martino <lmmsr@flash.net>
Subject: Thanks for the help

Thanks for the help on finding out what year it is. Unfortunately my car
is up for winter storage at my uncle's dealership (Martino Olds: since
1929), so I won't be able to check until I can stop by there. Speaking
of the dealership, if you want to see a couple of nice cars, drop by. My
uncle has his '67 442 conv.(w/ 455, not 400), his friend's '70 W-30
conv., my grandfather's '62 Delta 88 conv., and 76 Cutlass conv. on
display in the showroom. My '72 Cutlass, a '58 Corvette, a '62 Pantera,
2 Grand Sport Bu*cks, and a couple of other cars in the back. The non
Oldsmobiles belong to the former owner of the building (my family has
been loyal to Olds since 1929 If there is a dealer in chicago, I sure
you'll know the business. Thanks for the help with the year, but how
about some info on the seats. the old ones are pretty bad and i'd like
to take care of those as soon as possible.


Larry Martino
'71 Cutlass Supreme conv.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 01:29:40 -0500
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Drool Page Continued!

Hmmmm, not tired yet so I added more cars.   Think I'll add even more later.
8>)

Oldsmobile Drool Page:  http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell



RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt. - see it at:
1995 Achieva S

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell/

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:13:26 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: guage silkscreening

Kurt:

Silkscreening?  Are you talking about the outer rim that has a chrome
finish to it? More detail.

Thanks,  Loris


> I was wondering if anyone had any experience with silkscreening >guages. To 
be
a bit more specific, the outer ring on my tach >

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:25:05 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Drool Page

RC:

I'm running Netscape Gold and the thunbnails on your Drool Page don't
fuction. What's up with that?  I tried several times to reload the page
with no luck.

- -Loris

RC Hellebuyck wrote:
>
> Check out the newly added "Oldsmobile Drool Page" in my web site.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:41:12 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Drool Page Continued!

RC, you can continue putting little boxes up of Oldsmobiles, but it
seems no one is able to see them.  Seems like there's no HREF in the
html code.  Are you doing something different, or are we just outta
luck??

Mike Rothe

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