
oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, February 8 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1090



Re: Power window switch question
Cheap duel exhaust/header Question
Re: NEED WINDSHIELD ('76 98)
UNBOUNCE: '58 Holiday Coupe
Re: motor problems
Re: A question about milling
'76 production totals
I need, I need....
Re: Header debate
Re: 307 Timing
Tire size/wheel size
Non Olds
Re: motor problems
442 source book
Stll Looking
New on list with another power switch question
Re: Hoods
Re: Tire size/wheel size
Calling Doug Newman
Re: Hoods
still looking
I don't g*t it
Re: I need production totals
test
FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question
Re: A question about milling
Re: gauge pods for a-pillars
Re: Non Olds
Re: Header debate
Re: Oust charcoal/Kids!
Re: I need production totals
Re: I need production totals
Re: '76 Cutlass California Special
'73-'75
Re: New on list with another power switch question
Re: I don't g*t it
Re: New on list with another power switch question
Re: I need production totals
Re: I need production totals
Re: '73-'75
Re: Header debate
1968 442
Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
Re: Header debate
Lighting Rods
69 442 for sale
Re: '76 Cutlass California Special
Re: '76 production totals

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:06:16 -0800
From: Rick Amado <rickamado@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Power window switch question

Loris, The wiring harness for your 4-way power window switch has one big plug that connects to the back of
the switch. I have a '60 super 88 and that's how mine is.
             R

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 15:34:01 -0800
From: Michael <mbs2@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Subject: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question

     An ol fav of mine:
     For any who can't spring for headers right off, this idea may also be
helpful; 1. take off the cross-over pipe; 2 cut the end that goes to the drivers
side manifold off and , useing a hammer & vice, crush down the pipe coming off of
it (make sure you leave enough pipe attached to the end to do this).  Then take
this piece and have its crushed seam welded at a local station (5 bucks)--the
result is a plug that can be used where the crossover used to connect with the
drivers side manifold.  Then just run a second exhaust pipe back from the
passanger side manifold (buy and have shaped at an off-brand muffler shop, very
cheap) where the crossover used to connect.  Add the muffler of your choice and
wala--duel exhaust on the cheap, and ya get to talk about how ya kept stock
exhaust manifolds.  :-)
    Regards,
    Michael


JohnMonnin@aol.com wrote:

> I have a 69 Cutlas 350 with a turbo 400 trans and I am looking at buying
> headers later this year.  Since the original trans was removed by a previous
> owner I am no longer worried about originality.
> So I wanted to start a debate on which headers fit best.  My only header
> experience was with my buddies 73 dart.  We through away the blackjack headers
> he bought because they fit crappy and bought a pare of Hooker Super
> Competitions, which fit well.
>
> What headers has everyone tried on their cutlas's and how did they fit.

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 16:39:28 -0500
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: NEED WINDSHIELD ('76 98)

At 07:13 PM 2/6/1998 -0600, you wrote:
>Haven't tried calling around to specific glass shops yet... that's just
>the price the body shop told me.

I'd give a call to a few places that specialize in replacement auto glass.
It'd be interesting to see what prices they quote you.


*********************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:20:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '58 Holiday Coupe

Not a member; reply directly to him if you can help.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"Will Sutton" <will_sutton@onaustralia.com.au>
Subject: Oldsmobile 1958 Holiday Coupe

Let me say first that I know nothing about Oldsmobile's.
A friend at work has asked me to find out about spares/
parts for the 1958..98 series Holiday Coupe. He would
also like to find some other owners.....trouble is he is
in Australia.
Any help will be appreciated. 

Will

http://www.users.bigpond.com/will_sutton

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 14:55:51 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: motor problems

I gotta take special interest in this noise, since it sounds all too
familiar.  My 83 with the 3.8L Buick makes similar noises.  Only in park
or neutral, though.  Every line of thought ~I~ come up with points to
bearings, ~except~ that it's done it for over 5000 miles without getting
better or worse.  At idle, it's fine.  When driving, it's fine.  If I
rev it up without being in gear, I get a heavy, steady knock, sounds
like the lower, rear area of the engine.  I can't rule out exhaust or
torque convertor (I'd ~like~ to have it be something loose in the
exhaust pipe somewhere!!!) but here's the trick.  If I put fresh Castrol
20W-50, it goes away.  (until the oil breaks down)  At my last oil
change, it became apparant that Castrol 20W-50 does not ~exist~ in
Sidney MT.  Anywhere.  Sooo, they put 10W-40 in and it's knocking
again.  Technically thinking, by not knocking under load, it'd be more
of a crank-thrust problem.  That still doesn't answer why I'm not seeing
tons of shavings in the oil (It does get black fast, but I haven't found
metallic particles yet)  

I put the engine in a couple years back.  It'd been "professionally"
rebuilt by some place in Williston ND.   Supposedly complete job.  My
step-dad's sister owned the car then, so I know there was no ~false
claims~ going on between prev & current car owners...  They put about
150 miles on the car and hit a deer.  It sat for a few years, and my
step-dad bought it from her, figuring he'd use the engine in their '80
Malibu (with less than 60K orig. miles right now!  That car had 1500
miles on it, the dealer pulled the pan off to try to diagnose another
noise problem ~it~ had, and pulled out a shard of twisted steel (like
what comes out of a drill press) about 10 inches long.  They couldn't
determine where it came from so they put the thing back together and
sent it back out the door.  Owner wasn't impressed, apparantly, so he
sold it...  To my grandmother.  Then later to my mother.  Where it still
sits.  Barely drivable, wouldn't want to if it was, it's ~rough~  (~and~
a ch*vy...  Go figure!)  

Anyway, it didn't take long to convince my step-dad that putting the 3.8
Buick in the malibu was a foolish idea that would take ~way~ too much
work, especially when I happened to need a 3.8 Buick (See how that
parental manipulation game works ???  :)  The original one knocked like
mad, I pulled it down a ways.  Every lifter was locked solid, in it's
fully extended position, with still more than 1/4 inch of free play!  It
made it 250 miles that way, believe it or not!  I never bothered
scraping the crud off the filter, but judging by the rest of the oil,
I'd say it was installed in Lansing, somewhere around Oct. of 82!

So now I've got this "new" engine that knocks when it's not busy.  I
rebuilt the tranny a year later, (it had troubles going anywhere! 
Forward clutch was toast.  So bad the instructer asked to keep the
fragments (that't right--fragments) as a visual aid.  The tranny shop
there flushed the converter out, after severe prodding as to whether it
was a safe idea to do so or not.  They said they'd had good luck with
'em, and I haven't seen any shuddering in TCC Lockup, so I guess that
was OK.  They said they checked everything else out on it, too.  Drove
much better, but still knocked.  One of these days if I ever get to see
what the bottom of the car looks like again, I'll tear the inspection
cover off and check for loose bolts (I've had that happen before, but it
was a different sound; higher pitch.  Someday I'll check deeper in
exhaust too, but I don't know.  I seem to remember checking the heat
riser valve, and thinking it was fine.  I can't imagine ~that~ making
that much noise, (unless it was stuck in the converter!!!)

So, after all that writing, I'll keep watch for everyone else's
experiences and takes on the subject...  

(I'll be in Havre again this week, and I'll be sure to pick up some
Castrol 20W-50!)


               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 15:05:08 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: A question about milling

Rotten wrote:
> 
> My "E" heads are out being milled as we speak.  The shop is going to take
> .050" off the bottom.  Anyone know if I will need to mill my intake to
> compensate for this?  If so, how much?

Heh heh.  We coverred this a couple years back.  I'd posed the same
question, and was quickly corrected on technique.  Apparantly we
Oldsheads (poor pun) have been overtaught by ch*vy teachers and tech
articles.  blowtie decks are not at 90 deg angles to their intake
surfaces.  Olds heads, on the other hand, are "perfectly" designed at 90
Degrees.  Therefore, if you chop, say two inches (!!!) off the bottom of
the head, the intake planes will still be parallel.  (Of course, the
rocker arms would be in the oil pan by that point, but...)  

The best thing to do with milling (piston clearance aside) is to port
match the heads to the intake (or vice-versa) ~after~ the milling is
done.  If you match 'em up before hand, you'll be off a bit.

Help out any?  See, who says Olds's are more expensive to build that
ch*vy!!!!!   :)




- -- 
               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 17:49:41 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: '76 production totals

Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

> Matt,
>
> Here is what i have:

Lloyd, would you (or anybody else) happen to have the production #s for the
'76 Cutlasses (don't need the whole Olds lineup).  It'd be much
appreciated.  Thanx!!
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 17:31:07 -0500
From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: I need, I need....

Folks, I picked up another car today.  I couldn't resist.  An elderly
couple here in Miami had it for sale.  Very inexpensive.  96K on the
clock, only very minor stuff wrong with it.  Runs like a champ.  It's an
87 Cutlass Salon, SSIIIs, sport suspension, buckets, V8, 4 speed auto,
gage package, tilt, cruise, power windows/locks. It's not a 442, but it
was too good of deal to pass up.
 
Wondering if ANYONE out there has a high note horn (and bracket) that
fits an 87 Cutlass.(I'm sure any mid 80's would do)  Mine's completely
missing (???) like someone took it out for some reason, never to be put
back.  Just the wire hanging there.  Horn sounds like the mating call of
a yak with just the lo side.  Also, searching for a tan/buckskin leather
wrapped sport wheel in decent condition for same.  Current one is 'ok',
but has been baked pretty hard on the top side.  And one more MINOR
detail, a complete working cigarette lighter element and knob.  (I told
you these were minor problems.) E-mail me privately if you can help.

See the car at http://pages.prodigy.net/mrothe/rocket.html

TIA,
Mike Rothe

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 17:53:10 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: Re: Header debate

> JohnMonnin@aol.com wrote:
> > What headers has everyone tried on their cutlas's and how did they fit.

Although I can't offer Oldsmobile specific info in this area as I'm using a Chevy BB
engine, I would just like to give you my input as far as quality goes.  I picked up
a pair of Flowtech headers for my BB and the fit around the ports seems to be ok,
but the aim under the car wasn't quite up to snuff - it looks like I'll have to
grind a little notch in my tranny crossmember to clear the flange for the passenger
header.  I only paid $160 Cdn for them.  I learned my lesson - next set I get will
have either Hooker or Hedman on the box.
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
468 BigBlock '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 18:05:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Wong <brougham@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: 307 Timing

Hi Jim,

> label.  I do have the C-3 system, timing is shown as 20 BTDC @ 1100 rpm.  I
> have two manuals (not very specific) and the emissions sticker, and they all
> say to time it different ways.  One says to ground the AlCL, one says to
> disconnect the connector at the distributor, and one says to pull of the air
> cleaner and the vacumm line going to the thermactor, and plug it.  I dialed

Disconnecting the harness at the distributor sounds like the Ch*v and
possibly Buick V6 procedure.  The correct underhood sticker should
say to ground the C-3 diagnostic lead on the ALDL connector.  I wouldn't
worry about capping the vacuum lines, as their impact on timing readings
seems to be insignificant.

> performed the test to see if the EST is working and I believe it is.  I
> still get light pinging under light/medium load in 4th and OD @ about
> 1500-2000 rpm.  I thought the ECM/ESC was suppose to retard the timing to
> eliminate spark knock.  I checked the trouble codes and there weren't any.  

Olds engines didn't receive ESC until the '88 model year.  As an engine
ages, the octane requirement tends to increase due to carbon buildup and
possibly even valve guide/seal wear (esp. on Chev V8's).  A _very_ light
ping only at small throttle openings that disappears with the
application of more throttle usually indicates a good state of tune.  BTW,
is your EGR system functioning properly?  

Kevin Wong       mailto:brougham@geocities.com       Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 16:08:18 -0700
From: Tim Rudolph <trudolph@frii.com>
Subject: Tire size/wheel size

  Well, I went to a big swap meet in Denver this afternoon and found a
great deal on some SSII wheels.. $70 for 4 that are almost perfect (new
paint, great lookng chrome) and couldn't pass them up..  They're 14x7" (I
would've liked 15, but this'll do just fine)  I was wondering what the
widest 60 series tire I could safely put on these tires would be.  Thanks.

Tim Rudolph
trudolph@frii.com
'69 442 Convertible

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 18:46:59 -0500 (EST)
From: ted rollins <trollins@rfci.net>
Subject: Non Olds

A friend found a 78 Corvette Silver Anniversary For $6500.00 thats in decent
shape, problem is he don't think it is the original motor. How can he find
out if it is ?? Is it the same Id number as an Olds???
Ted Rollins
63 chevy truck
66 olds cutlass
72 olds cutlass
94 olds cutlass

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 18:41:50 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: motor problems

>within the motor. Now the car runs and accelerates fine. Power is as good as always, no

>loud noises present while driving, Only when  I stop at a light and let it idle it

>"clangs" around again. Is this a sign my motor is in need of some major work? Someone

>mentioned it sounds like I have a spun bearing. I wonder how this happened as I only put

>81 miles on the car last year :-)


Check the timing tab.. My car would clank loud at stop lights, but as soon as I got up on the rpms it went away.. Took it to a shop and the "fixed" a bracket and some other little things..Noise went away for a day.. After looking at the damper I could see wear marks. The metal timing tab on my 350 was-for no apparant reason - starting to touch the damper which caused the clanking. I bent it up and have never had a problem since.


Worth checking anyway.. Good luck 







T. H. Shires				81 C/S/B Rckt 350

mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu


<bold>University of Oklahoma

</bold><italic><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>Aerospace 
Engineering

</color><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Mechanical Engineering

</color></italic>

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:26:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Doro Pedroza <dpedroza@yahoo.com>
Subject: 442 source book

The 442 source book is a very good book on the 442,Rallye350,hurst
olds,lots of pictures.Also the following two titles are great
oldsmobile books(Cutlass and 442 1964 -1972)  (Oldsmobile muscle cars
1964-1971) These three books are still sold by classic motorbooks plus
many more oldsmobile titles to order a free catalog here is their
phone number 1-800-826-6600.                                          
                 Doro Pedroza                                         
                             1966-442   





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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 20:07:39 -0800
From: JFOWLER@capecod.net
Subject: Stll Looking

I'm looking for the top spacer for a power antenna for a convertible.  I
have all the other parts.  Please H*lp!!

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 20:16:14 EST
From: GPalmquist@aol.com
Subject: New on list with another power switch question

Hello everyone,

My name is Gail and my husband, John, is restoring a '66 442 conv. He is
having some trouble getting the passenger side power window motor/switch to
work. The wire from the loom to the motor is hot all the way to the power
window switch on the door. And hot all the way down to the connector to the
power window motor. The motor is not original it was bought from Year One so
the connector to the motor won't fit as it originally did. So he put 2
connector leads from the power window motor and clipped them into the original
lead but it wouldn't operate the window. But when he uses a battery with a
ground to the door and the hot side to eithier of the leads to the motor it
works. Has he overlooked something along the way?

Thanks for any help you can give and it's great to be on board!

Gail Palmquist 

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:07:38 -0500
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: Hoods

In '66, there were 2 A-body hoods: The base F-85 two and four-doors and the
442s all had no hood spear.  The F-85 deluxes and non 442 Cutlass all had
the (same) hood spear.

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com   
http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

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> From: TERMO1L@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Hoods
> Date: Saturday, February 07, 1998 3:17 PM
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> The hood that I have has a chrome strip down the middle what does the
cutlass
> one look like?  Is it bigger?????
> 
> 
> Mike

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:24:21 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Tire size/wheel size

Tim Rudolph wrote:
> 
>   Well, I went to a big swap meet in Denver this afternoon and found a
> great deal on some SSII wheels.. $70 for 4 that are almost perfect (new
> paint, great lookng chrome) and couldn't pass them up..  They're 14x7" (I
> would've liked 15, but this'll do just fine)  I was wondering what the
> widest 60 series tire I could safely put on these tires would be.  Thanks.

Congratulations!
245s are the largest 60 series you can put on a 14" wheel.
And they still leave the rear wheel well looking empty!

- -- 
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

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* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:28:15 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Calling Doug Newman

Doug,
I misplaced your e-mail address.  Please e-mail me directly with your
snail mail address so I can send you a check for your video.

Thanks

- -- 
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

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* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:23:53 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Hoods

At 03:17 PM 2/7/98 EST, you wrote:
Mike

        That IS the Cutlass hood. The F-85 has no chrome on it except the
front hood molding.

Jim

>
>Jim
>
>
>The hood that I have has a chrome strip down the middle what does the cutlass
>one look like?  Is it bigger?????
>
>
>Mike
>
>

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:26:59 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: still looking

does anyone out there have a shell for a RH 71-2 sport mirror...

 or the guts for a 70 Rh sport mirror>>>>

    olds guy......

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:49:49 EST
From: GPalmquist@aol.com
Subject: I don't g*t it

I'm n*w and would lik* to b* clu*d in on this whol* thing. Is it Ch*vy or
what?

N*w and trying to catch on.

Thanks-Gail Palmquist

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 20:48:14 +0000
From: "M. Slocum" <mslocum@shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: Re: I need production totals

That would be cool! Does anyone have the figures for '72? I would like to
do the same.

Michael Slocum
72 Olds cutlass supreme cnvrt

Matt Cremean wrote:

> Would anyone happen to have the complete production totals for the 1973
> model year. I want to put them up on my web page.
> --
> **********************************
> Matt Cremean
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> CreamerSoftİ Software
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
> **********************************

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 20:57:14 -0600
From: bloom@gorilla.net
Subject: test

this is a test.

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:56:50 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

                                          C&M Classic Parts
                       1132 Chatmoss Drive, Virginia Beach, VA 23464
                                (757)474-0869, FAX (757)474-0694
                                         <chermac@exis.net>

Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm,  Sat 9:00 am - 6:00 pm,  Sunday Closed
*We accept all major Credit Cards. VISA, M/C, Amer. Express, and Discover.*
Lots of new reproduction parts will be coming out in January-March 98.
We will be vending at the Spring Charlotte Auto Fair at the Charlotte Motor
Speedway on 2-5 Apr.

        66 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $1795.00
        67 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $995.00
        66 & 67 Track Pac kits (complete, just like the dealer option includes;
        shroud, ducts, hoses, cam/lifters, battery accessories) Apr/May 98.
                
        69-72 "W" and "Z" exhaust manifold sets (NEW) Fall 98
                
New reproduction parts:
Convertible Top Boots (Correct Grains for each different year)  $85.00ea
64  Black, Red, Lt. Blue, Fawn, Saddle, Turqoise, White
65  Same as 64  
66-67 Black, Red, Light Blue, Med. Blue, Bronze, Turqoise, White, Gold
68-72 Black, Red, Parchment, Lt. Blue, Teal Blue, Green Gold, Gold, Pearl,
Dk Blue, Dk. Green, Lt. Green, Lt. Saddle, Dk Saddle, Olive Green, Royal
Blue, White, Sandalwood, 

Molded Carpet Sets  $95.00 
64-67 - (Black, Red, Med. Blue, Turquoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Maroon)
68-72 - (Black, Red, Maroon, Turqoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Med. Blue, Dk. Green,
Green Gold, Lt. Green, Teal Blue, Saddle, Sandalwood)
73-77 - (Same as 68-72 except Green Gold)

Door Panels  64-72 $Inquire

Seat Covers  64-72 $Inquire

Vinyl Dash Overlays (makes your wood dash areas look like carbon fiber)
$50.00 set 

Lifetime Guarantee on all correct bead window felts  $92.00 set (inner & outer)
66-67 2 dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (correct bead type) 
68-72 2 dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (not Supreme Coupes, correct bead) 

Replacement Window Felts (Flat type)  $60.00 set (inner & outer)
64-72 Cutlass/442 (state year and model)

Glove Box Liners
64-67 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
68-69 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
70-72 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99

Qrt Seals
70-72 Cutlass Supreme & Conv Qtr End seals  $13.00 pr

Hood Insulation
64-65 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
66 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
67 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
68-70 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner (wclips)  $18.00
70-72 Cutlass Supreme Hood Liner (w/clips)  $18.00
73-77 Cutlass $28.00

Liner Clips
Round Clips  $1.00 ea
Square Clips  $1.00 ea

A-Arm Shields
68-72 Upper A-Arm dust shields  $14.99 pr

3M Stripe Kits
68 W-36 Stripe Kits (white, black, red)  $55.00 pr

New Parts:
67 Cutlass Supreme/442 Steering Wheel Centers (mint)  $40.00 ea
66-67 (N.O.S.) Core Support Bushings (complete)  $50.00 pr
67 AM/FM Stereo Cutlass/442 (complete, mint)  $250.00
66 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblem (very nice)  $20.00
67 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblems (1 very nice, 1 mint)  $20.00/25.00
67 442 Dash Emblem (good cond)  $15.00
67 442 Headlight Bezels (nice)  $150.00 pr
66-67 Bucket Seats (passenger reclining, super cond) $400.00 pr
64-72 (N.O.S.) A/C vent hose (6 ft length) $20.00
66-67 (N.O.S.) 442 Air Cleaner Pie Tin  $35.00
67 442/Cutlass Core Support (mint)  $175.00
67 442 Hood (mint)  $550.00
67 442 Grille Bar (some pitting)  $15.00
67 442 Trunk Molding (fair) $35.00
67 442/Cutlass (N.O.S.) Wiper Switches  $65.00 ea
67 442/Cutlass Front Bumper Guards  $15.00 pr
67 Remote Mirror (good)  $30.00
64-67 A/C Chrome Dash Bezels (nice)  $40.00 pr
66-67 Speedminder Speedometer  $75.00
66-67 Clocks  $40.00 ea
64-67 A/C Setup (complete)  $175.00 
68 442/Cutlass Front Fenders (nice)  $550.00 pr 
73-77 Omega Floor Shift Tilt  $65.00
75 Omega Console (auto)  $40.00
72 Delta 88/ Ninety Eight Owners Manual (nice) $5.00
68 RH Headlight Bucket (nice)  $65.00 ea
66-67 Rear Window Molding Sets  $40.00 set
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgates Switch Bezels (mint)  $5.00 ea
69 Turn Signal Lens (nice)  $25.00 pr
69 Full Hubcaps (nice)  $35.00 set
64-65 Valve Covers (indented type)  $35.00 pr
68-72 Manual Trans Flywheel  $75.00
330/350 10.5 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits includes Pressure plate, disc,
throwout bearing, alignment tool. (all NEW pieces)  $130.00
400/455 11.0 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits same as above (all NEW pieces)  $135.00
71-72 OAI Hood (very nice orig.)  $1000.00
71-72 W-30 Aluminum Intake Manifold (nice)  $650.00
70-75 Sport Steering Wheel (black, nice centers, complete)  $130.00 ea
Small Block Cylinder Heads #4 (67) $100, #7 (71),  #7a (72) $115 pr
Big Block Cylinder Heads  "B" (66) $250 pr, "C" (67) $275 pr, "G" (71) $125 pr, 
"H" (71 W-30) $1500 pr.   
68-69 Jetaway Trans (very low miles, not a switchpitch)  $90.00
64-68 4 Spd Console Top Plate and Door (fair to good cond, w/nice boot)  $50.00
64-66 Master Cylinders (correct, rebuilt)  $43.50 ea
3&4 Spd. Pilot Bushing (Bronze) new  $7.50 ea
3&4 Spd. HD Roller Pilot Bearing new  $24.50 ea 
75 Omega Front Fenders (very nice pair)  $180.00 pr
75 Omega Bucket Seats (nice, maroon cloth)  $85.00 pr
65-67 425 "D" Block std bore, small lifter bore  $100.00  
69-72 4 Row Radiator Top Plate (nice)  $65.00 
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/o tilt)  *new*  $24.00
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/tilt) *new*  $22.00
67-68 Big Cars AM/FM Stereo (nice, works well)  $75.00
69-72  Bench Seat Headrests (black, mint)  $45.00 pr
68-72 Arm Rest Pad Bases (rear, post coupe, black)  $20.00 pr
69-70 Console Shift Steering Column (non-tilt)  $95.00
64-72 Power Window Motors  (excellent cond) $50.00 ea
70-72 455 Engine Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $40.00 pr
64-67 330 / 68-72 350 Engine Mount (NEW, Made in USA)  $38.00 pr
64-72 Jetaway/TH350, 4 Spd Trans Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $14.00 
67-72 TH400 Trans Mounts (NEW, made in USA)  $17.00 ea


New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts 1964-1972 Cutlass/442
64-72 Clutch Inspection covers (N.O.S.)  $22.00 ea
83-87 Hurst/Olds&442 (N.O.S.) Exhaust System (complete)  $450.00
83-84 Hurst/Olds (N.O.S.) Lightning Rod Whiskers  $150.00
68-72+ TH Torque Converter Cover (Plastic, N.O.S.)  $31.00 ea
65 Cutlass/442 PO2 Deluxe Wheelcovers (N.O.S.)  $300.00 set
66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                           
68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                       
69 Cutlass RH Grilles (N.O.S.) $85.00 ea                             
70 Cutlass Supreme Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr                          
71-72 Stone Shields (N.O.S.) $38.00 ea                              
71-72 Headlight Housings (plastic) (N.O.S.) $80.00 pr          
72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr

Used Parts:
64 Cutlass/442                       
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00                                                  
Front Bumper Core  $50.00                                                   
F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00                                      

65 Cutlass/442
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  LH/RH rear $15.00 ea
65-(early) 66 Plain Full Wheel Covers (4, mint)  $30.00 

66 Cutlass/442
66-67 330 4 bbl Intake Manifold  $30.00
66 F-85 Deluxe Dash Emblem (nice)  $5.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Molding  $35.00
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $50.00
66 Cutlass Trunk Molding (very good)  $75.00
66 Cutlass Tail Light Bezels (very good)  $85.00 pr
65-(early) 66 Plain Full Wheel Covers (4, mint)  $30.00 set
66 Turbine Full Wheel Covers (4) good  $50.00 set
66 Cutlass/442 Side Chrome moldings (almost complete set) Inquire
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00 
66-67 AM Radios (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
66 Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea                                  

67 Cutlass/442
67 330/320 hp 4bbl engine (complete)  $200.00
67 4 spd Speedometer Adapter (3.42 gears & 4spd)  $45.00
67 Cutlass Plain Full Hubcaps (4, mint)  $30.00
67 Plain Cutlass Holiday Hardtop interior door panels and rear sides (very
nice, blue/green) $85.00 set of 4
67 Cutlass Jetaway Trans (low miles, w/switch pitch converter)  $100.00
66-67 Rear Side window lower U-seals (new, Metro Moulded)  $18.00 pr
67 Cutlass Hood (mint)  $100.00
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
67 F-85 Rear Bumper (very good condition)  $75.00
67 Front Bumper (straight, core)  $70.00
67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $50.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $90.00 ea
67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $3.00
67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $165.00

68 Cutlass/442
68 2 bbl Air Cleaner  $20.00
68-69 Cutlass/442 Post Coupe LH Door  $85.00
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
68 Turn Signal Lens (mint)  $12.00 ea
68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $75.00
68-69 14x6 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
68 AM Radio  $25.00
68  8-Track Unit (housing cracked, needs plastic one)  $55.00
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00              
Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set                               
68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00                     
68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $40.00 ea                                            
68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea                                
68-72 B-Pillar Molding Sets (black, mint) $27.50 pr 

69 Cutlass/442
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
69 Cutlass RH Grille (nice, used)  $40.00
69 Cruise Control Switch and Bezel  $25.00
69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
69 Trunk Lid (Conv, nice)  $175.00
69 Headlight Bezels  $60.00 pr
69 Lower Dash (radio area)  (nice)  $35.00
69 C/S Side Moldings (mint, no pits)  $15.00 ea
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
69 Cutlass/442 Doors 2 dr Hardtop (mint pair)  $200.00 pr / $110.00 ea
69-72 Hood Hinges  $40.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $25.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $25.00 pr
68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $45.00 set                                 
68-72 Fastback Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set
69-72 Floor Shift Steering Column (very good)  $95.00
69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $200.00
69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $55.00 ea
69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $25.00 ea

70 Cutlass/442
70 LH/RH Hood "L" moldings (few small pits under side, nice) $95.00 pr
70 442/SX/Rally 350 Rear Cutout Bumper (CORE)  $110.00
70-72 Dash Pad and Dash Plastic (radio area, green, mint)  $185.00
70 Std Auto console neutral safety switch w/bracket  $65.00
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70 FLAT Fender RH (small metal patch panel installed nice)  $200.00 
70 Cutlass Supreme Door Panels (black mint) 4 for $100.00
70 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $115.00
70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $55.00
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea             
70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00                                    
69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00                                
69-70 "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $25.00 pr                                        
69-70 "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $25.00 pr
70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr         
70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $90.00                                  
70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
70-72 RH Fender (has small patch panel)   $185.00
70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens   $17.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens  $23.00 ea

71 Cutlass/442
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
71-72 Fender RH (small metal patch in bottom)  $185.00
71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea 
71 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr

72 Cutlass/442
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00                                  
71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
72 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr            

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 19:18:03 -0800
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Re: Cheap duel exhaust/header Question

I was under our '78 truck today tightening up the driver's side exhaust and got a
good look at the dual exhaust.  It's got an Olds 350 with true 2" duals all the way
back.  It has a cover on the pass side which takes the place of the "plug" you just
fabricated, and from what I've heard these covers are almost made of unobtainium.
Since the truck has one, and it was converted from a diesel, I was wondering if maybe
diesel trucks would be a good source for these covers?  Since diesels don't have a
throttle and run wide-open all the time, it would make sense that they'd have really
good exhaust systems.

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

Michael wrote:

> helpful; 1. take off the cross-over pipe; 2 cut the end that goes to the drivers
> side manifold off and , useing a hammer & vice, crush down the pipe coming off of
> it (make sure you leave enough pipe attached to the end to do this).  Then take
> this piece and have its crushed seam welded at a local station (5 bucks)--the
> result is a plug that can be used where the crossover used to connect with the
> drivers side manifold.  Then just run a second exhaust pipe back from the

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 22:21:21 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: A question about milling

Ken,

Yes, you will need to have either your intake port sides milled that amount,
or have that done to the intake side of the heads. Most better shops will mill
the intake sides when they mill the heads so everything will match back up.

Also be sure to check out how this milling will affect the valvetrain, it
might not affect it but it doesn't hurt to find out before trouble ruins the
fun of getting that bad-boy 455 back together and screamin!

Good luck and ENJOY!

Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 19:24:12 -0800
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Re: gauge pods for a-pillars

I bought an a-pillar pod from Lo-Tek Engineering last fall.  Got it for $10 cause it had damaged paint (it was the wrong color anyways).  They make both single and dual gauge pods for the Buick Regal/GN, and it fits just
perfect (after a can of vinyl spray paint).  If you can't find their address on the gn-ttype web site, let me know and I'll dig it up.

I'll be installing it in the '84 H/O probably tomorrow.  Using it for a 2" vacuum gauge since the ralley pack has just about everything else.

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

Tracy H. Shires wrote:

> Someone mentioned these so I checked them out and I'm definately interested.
>
> They make them for 82-92 camaro, 93-96 camaro, 79-93 stang, 95-95 stang, 88-96 chevy truck, 87-96 ford truck, and 88-91 hondas..
>
> Someone posted which one would take the least amount of heat working to fit right- I think it was the chevy truck, but if someone has done this I was hoping they could confirm the right pod for me to get for my 81 Cutlass.
>
> Thanks,
>
> T. H. Shires 81 C/S/B Rckt 350
> mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu
>
> University of Oklahoma
> Aerospace Engineering
> Mechanical Engineering

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 22:46:13 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds

ted rollins wrote:
> 
> A friend found a 78 Corvette Silver Anniversary For $6500.00 thats in decent
> shape, problem is he don't think it is the original motor. How can he find
> out if it is ?? Is it the same Id number as an Olds???
> Ted Rollins
> 63 chevy truck
> 66 olds cutlass
> 72 olds cutlass
> 94 olds cutlass
The VIN ID is located on the motor block.  If the number on the block
matches the car's VIN it is the original motor.  I had a 77 several
years ago but I don't remember the exact location.  Anybody that messes
with Vettes much can show you where to look though.  They built 2500
Silver Anniversary models for what it is worth.

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 22:48:16 EST
From: StafRT007@aol.com
Subject: Re: Header debate

I have a 70 F-85 with a 455 backed by a TH-350.  The headers I'm using are
hooker super comps.  They hit the firewall and somehow interfere with the
steering because it rattles and shakes when I have the wheel turned to the
right.  So you might want to dent the firewall where the headers will contact.
Other than that there ok.

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:39:05 +0000
From: "M. Slocum" <mslocum@shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: Re: Oust charcoal/Kids!

Thanks, Michael. I think I will disconnect it, for now. I don't care about
the power but the gas
mileage and pollution are a BIG deal. My daughters (2 and 5 already) are big
on the enviroment
and they keep me honest (good kids). I'll take your advice, re:junyard.

Speaking of kids, does anyone have kid stories they would like to share? My
daughter calls the covert. an "outside car" and she wants to know why we buy
cars we don't drive. Also (she's VERY inquisitive), she wants to know why I
have had sooooo many cars?

You can see them at http://shrike.depaul.edu/~mslocum/

Take care. Mike Slocum / 72olds

Michael wrote:

>     You could remove it and plug the vacume lines with no effect on your
> car's performance, but the neg side effect will be a bit more pollution
> and a missing (stock) component.  There may also be a tiny increase in
> power and a tiny decrease in milage, but tiny is the operative word
> here.  I myself like to have everything hooked up and working.  Best
> bet--get one out of the junk yard the next time your there.  Their
> interchangability makes these canisters very very cheap (I paid 5 bucks
> for one a few years back).
>   Regards,
>   Michael
>
> M. Slocum wrote:
>
> > As usual, the C.C. is badly rusted. Can I remove it? What should I do
> > with the vacume tubes? Thanks!
> >
> > Michael Slocum
> > 72 Olds Cutlass cnvrt

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 22:58:28 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: I need production totals

M. Slocum wrote:
> 
> That would be cool! Does anyone have the figures for '72? I would like to
> do the same.
> 
> Michael Slocum
> 72 Olds cutlass supreme cnvrt
> 
> Matt Cremean wrote:
> 
> > Would anyone happen to have the complete production totals for the 1973
> > model year. I want to put them up on my web page.
> > --
> > **********************************
> > Matt Cremean
> > +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> > CreamerSoftİ Software
> > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
> > +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> > 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
> > **********************************
Well, I can tell you they made 11,571 1972 Cutlass Supremes convs
(3J67), 105,087 Supreme Holiday htp cpe (3J57) and 14,955 Supreme
Holiday sdn (3J39).  They also produced 629 Hurst Olds packages with 220
of them being equipped with sunroofs.  If I ever get to where I can
obtain a scanner, I can copy the page and send it a lot easier (I hope).
I do have one of those how come questions though.  How come if they made
so many Supreme hdtp coupes I can't find a complete rustfree passenger
compartment from a parts car to work on my Hurst with?  Huh? Huh?  I
guess everybody is restoring them.

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:54:44 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: I need production totals

Michael,

This is what I have for 1972:

F-85
4 dr town sedan                        3792

Cutlass
2 dr coupe                                37790
4 dr town sedan                       38893

Cutlass S
2 dr holiday coupe                   78461
2 dr sports coupe                       4141  

Cutlass Supreme
2 dr holiday coupe                  105087
2dr convertible                          11571
4 dr holiday sedan                    14955

Cutlass Cruiser
4 dr station wagon 5p                7979

Vista Cruiser
4 dr station wagon 5p              10573
4 dr station wagon 7p              21340 

Delta Eighty-Eight
2 dr coupe                                 32036 
4 dr holiday sedan                    35538
4 dr town sedan                        46092

Delta Eighty-Eight Royal
2 dr coupe                                 34345
4 dr holiday sedan                    42606
4 dr town sedan                        34150
2 dr convertible                           3900

Custom Cruiser
4 dr station wagon 5p                6907
4 dr station wagon 7p              18087 

Ninety-Eight
2 dr holiday coupe                    13111
2 dr luxury coupe                       24453
4 dr sedan                                 17572
4 dr luxury sedan                       69920

Toronado
2 dr coupe                                  48900

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible 


>That would be cool! Does anyone have the figures for '72? I would like to
>do the same.
>
>Michael Slocum
>72 Olds cutlass supreme cnvrt

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 19:54:17 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: '76 Cutlass California Special

Where is the car located?  I'd gladly go look at it and copy down the
pertinent numbers to cross check this.  I don't recall a special edition
for the Oldsmobiles in this era but I could have missed it (hmmmmmm, hard
to admit that).

Let me know - you got my curiosity up!

Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 20:00:40 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: '73-'75

I know there is a specific chapter of the OCA for these model year
Cutlass'.  We seem to have quite a few of these cars still out in the high
desert junk yards.  Anyone need any specific parts for these?


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:58:52 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: New on list with another power switch question

Gail,

With everything else checking out, it sounds like the switch is damaged
inside.  Consider a new switch.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


>Hello everyone,
>
>My name is Gail and my husband, John, is restoring a '66 442 conv. He is
>having some trouble getting the passenger side power window motor/switch to
>work. The wire from the loom to the motor is hot all the way to the power
>window switch on the door. And hot all the way down to the connector to the
>power window motor. The motor is not original it was bought from Year One
so
>the connector to the motor won't fit as it originally did. So he put 2
>connector leads from the power window motor and clipped them into the
original
>lead but it wouldn't operate the window. But when he uses a battery with a
>ground to the door and the hot side to eithier of the leads to the motor it
>works. Has he overlooked something along the way?
>
>Thanks for any help you can give and it's great to be on board!
>
>Gail Palmquist
>

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 00:17:09 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: I don't g*t it

On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 GPalmquist@aol.com wrote:
> I'm n*w and would lik* to b* clu*d in on this whol* thing. Is it Ch*vy or
> what?
> 
> N*w and trying to catch on.

The Ch*vy thing is a silly little habit we got into a long time ago. They 
get enough mention everywhere else anyway.

Sometimes though it has a different purpose. The words "h*lp" and 
"s*bscribe" need the "*" to keep the majordomo list manager from thinking 
you're looking for assistance and bouncing the message to me instead.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 98 23:37:00 EST
From: Glenn Connors <gpc442@buffnet.net>
Subject: Re: New on list with another power switch question

At 20:16 2/7/98 EST, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>My name is Gail and my husband, John, is restoring a '66 442 conv. He is
>having some trouble getting the passenger side power window motor/switch to
>work. The wire from the loom to the motor is hot all the way to the power
>window switch on the door. And hot all the way down to the connector to the
>power window motor. The motor is not original it was bought from Year One so
>the connector to the motor won't fit as it originally did. So he put 2
>connector leads from the power window motor and clipped them into the original
>lead but it wouldn't operate the window. But when he uses a battery with a
>ground to the door and the hot side to eithier of the leads to the motor it
>works. Has he overlooked something along the way?
>
>Thanks for any help you can give and it's great to be on board!
>
>Gail Palmquist 
>
      Sounds like a bad switch.  To prove the switch out, disconnect from
plug, use ohm meter and check for continuity from power to return or ground
side when actuated.  In this case no continuity would prove to be a faulty
switch.

   Glenn
   '69 4-4-2

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 22:54:35 +0000
From: "M. Slocum" <mslocum@shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: Re: I need production totals

Thanks, Lloyd! This list is great! I've decided to take just one problem at a
time and eventually
Ol' betsy will be running smooth.

Mike Slocum / 72olds cut sup ragtop(I'm not kidding!)

Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

> Michael,
>
> This is what I have for 1972:
>

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 22:58:12 +0000
From: "M. Slocum" <mslocum@shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: Re: I need production totals

Conspracy, Don, another Clinton conspiracy(haha).
Thanks fo the info!

P.S. maybe one of those guys that has like 15 cars can help?

Don Sowers wrote:

> I do have one of those how come questions though.  How come if they made
> so many Supreme hdtp coupes I can't find a complete rustfree passenger
> compartment from a parts car to work on my Hurst with?  Huh? Huh?  I
> guess everybody is restoring them.

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:21:42 -0800
From: Chris & Robin <cya442@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: '73-'75

Lisa,

    Not that I need parts for those years, but do you have a direct access to the
desert junk yards or have a friend that can get you the parts?  I have heard about
the yards in eastern CA. and in AZ and have thought about making a trip to them
since most of the yards in SoCal seem to be plum out of '68 Olds'.
- --
Chris Miller
'68 442
Tustin, CA
mailto:cya442@mindspring.com

James Thingwold wrote:

> I know there is a specific chapter of the OCA for these model year
> Cutlass'.  We seem to have quite a few of these cars still out in the high
> desert junk yards.  Anyone need any specific parts for these?
>
> Lisa Madsen
> Anaheim, CA

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 00:23:46 EST
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: Header debate

In a message dated 98-02-07 22:52:35 EST, you write:

<< I have a 70 F-85 with a 455 backed by a TH-350.  The headers I'm using are
 hooker super comps.  They hit the firewall and somehow interfere with the
 steering because it rattles and shakes when I have the wheel turned to the
 right.  So you might want to dent the firewall where the headers will
contact.
 Other than that there ok. >>

im running heddman headers on my '78 cutlass with a 350 olds engine.  they
went in just as good as a header can go in, but geez...  what an annoying job
to put those things in!!!!

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 00:34:43 -0600
From: "TOM HAIRE" <rcd@infinet.com>
Subject: 1968 442

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 00:48:52 EST
From: GPalmquist@aol.com
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

In a message dated 98-02-07 22:09:51 EST, you write:

<< 
 >>
67 amfm radio. I would be interested in your amfm radio if the price could be
brought down to 200. I am struggling to put the car together. I'm sure you
know how it is. Please consider this offer.

Thank you-John Palmquist

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 01:55:24 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: Header debate

>

>im running heddman headers on my '78 cutlass with a 350 olds engine.  they

>went in just as good as a header can go in, but geez...  what an annoying job

>to put those things in!!!!


I have a set of shorty blackjacks in mine.. Fit like a charm but don't take well to abuse - smacked a dip at 100+ and bent both of them beyond repair.. I ordered a set of heddmans to replace these, but they went about 1.5 inches into the aircond housing - and I wasn't about to cut it... I like the better tone of hookers, so I'm going to try some hooker super comps when it gets warmer.. Anyone tried hookers on a gbody with a 350?







T. H. Shires				81 C/S/B Rckt 350

mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu


<bold>University of Oklahoma

</bold><italic><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>Aerospace 
Engineering

</color><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Mechanical Engineering

</color></italic>

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 02:31:39 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Lighting Rods

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get all the parts necessary to convert to the lighting rod shifter..I saw one the other day and I just have to have em!!!


Thanks,




T. H. Shires				81 C/S/B Rckt 350

mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu


<bold>University of Oklahoma

</bold><italic><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>Aerospace 
Engineering

</color><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Mechanical Engineering

</color></italic>

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 06:13:53 EST
From: Convcutl69@aol.com
Subject: 69 442 for sale

This add is running in the AOL classifieds. 
69 442 orig. owner.paint, redwalls, snows. No rebuild No bull. 
16,000 original miles.FAST Gold and black. $19,885 delivered.
salemlf@aol.com

Thought it may peak somebody's interest. 
Mike W
69 S convertible

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 08:03:47 -0500
From: "Michael A. Evans" <evans1@net-link.net>
Subject: Re: '76 Cutlass California Special

Hey, thanks, Lisa...the car is in the Van Nuys area.  The guy is clueless,
but I did get enough of the VIN to know it's a two-door Cutlass S with the
350 4-barrel motor.  He obviously didn't buy it new, so he doesn't know
anything about the California Special deal.....as proof he took the short
bus to school he says "Man, this car is faaaaaaaaaast!". *L*  And thanks
for the offer, but I'm trying to get my relatives to take a scouting
expedition to evaluate this car and another one.  I'll get one yet, doggone
it.....

Mike Evans
Richland, MI

At 07:54 PM 2/7/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Where is the car located?  I'd gladly go look at it and copy down the
>pertinent numbers to cross check this.  I don't recall a special edition
>for the Oldsmobiles in this era but I could have missed it (hmmmmmm, hard
>to admit that).
>
>Let me know - you got my curiosity up!
>
>Lisa Madsen
>Anaheim, CA
>
>'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
>Cruiser (twin hauler)
>
>Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
>
>My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/
>
>Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
>Glass Line's Bulletin Board:
http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/oldsbbs/index.cgi
>
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>http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/
>
>

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 09:23:59 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: '76 production totals

Trevor,

I wish that I could help, but I only have figures up through 1975.  I'm
certain that someone else has what you want tohough.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


>Lloyd W. Culp wrote:
>
>> Matt,
>>
>> Here is what i have:
>
>Lloyd, would you (or anybody else) happen to have the production #s for the
>'76 Cutlasses (don't need the whole Olds lineup).  It'd be much
>appreciated.  Thanx!!
>--
>Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
>

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