
oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, January 25 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1071



Re: 4 spd auto shifter wanted ...86 salon
Re: '68 Cutlass/442 Ignition Switch
U.S. Body Source Info
U.S. Body Source
Re: Bryceman's page
Re: My first try at a web page
alu window strips
Re: holes in air duct - 76 Delta Royale
Re: U.S. Body Source
Re: Crankscrapers
Re: PowerTrax   Was: Axle Ratio
wagoon id
Re: Fwd: J&M in CA
Re: My first try at a web page
Re: Bryceman's page
Re:  65 98 conv for sale
Ya never guess
Anti-sway Bars
Re: wagoon id
EMT Cast Iron Treatment
decoding codes?
My First Web Page
Re: option codes
Re: My first try at a web page
Re: Lets go bowling
Re: 4 spd auto shifter wanted ...86 salon
V6 -> V8 in G body?
Re: decoding codes?
Re: J&M in CA
Re: decoding codes?
Re: Lets go bowling
Re: PowerTrax   Was: Axle Ratio
Re: option codes
Re: Lets go bowling
Re: decoding codes?
50 Olds needs more help
Re: decoding codes?
Mime-Version: 1.0
Re: U.S. Auto Body
Re: wagoon id
Re: My 200-4R info wanted...
Vacuum Lines??
Re: decoding codes?
Re: My 200-4R info wanted...
Re: option codes
Lansing Video FINISHED!
Extinct Dash Lights
An odd twist to: Karl's Law
Re: My 200-4R info wanted...

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 07:35:43 -0600
From: "Daren & Laurie Hendley" <daren@revealed.net>
Subject: Re: 4 spd auto shifter wanted ...86 salon

- -----Original Message-----
From: RCKTPWR <RCKTPWR@aol.com>

>Hello list, I put an 81 200r4 in my 86 salon. Underneath the car I see that
my
>orig 3spd auto shifter is busted.

You can just change the detent plate in the shifter with one from a 4 speed
shifter. Changing the whole shifter isn't needed.

Considering that the shifter is inside the car how can you tell from
underneath the car it's broken? What's broke?

Daren

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:43:17 -0500
From: loris <loris@tir.com>
Subject: Re: '68 Cutlass/442 Ignition Switch

> I finally got tired of my ignition switch falling into the dash every time I started my '68 442, and I went to a machine shop to see about having the retaining ring machined from aluminum. 
>

That is exactly what I did.  I drew out the exact dimensions on paper
and gave it to a freind of mine that has a lathe.  It came out beautiful
and it is better than the original for two reason: 1, you won't find
those plastic ignition retainers anywhere and 2, since its made out of
aluminum it won't strip the threads or come loose.  See if you can find
someone other than a machine shop that came make one for you.  They'll
probably charge you a chunk of money for such a little piece like that.

- -Loris

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:31:43 -0500 (EST)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: U.S. Body Source Info

U.S. Body Source (where Dick Miller Racing orders his parts) is located 
at 9009 C.R. 325 Hampton, Fl 32044; 352-468-2203  (see ad in February 
1998 of Car Craft) Miller's catalog shows w-30 and w-30 w/air box hoods.
cowl induction, fenders, stock hoods, trunk lids etc. for 66 - 97.  ( 
again usual disclaimers) FYI shipping to Ohio was $45.00 +/-.

Al Varhus
Columbus, Ohio 
http://www.infinet.com/~avar
 
  

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:36:09 -0500 (EST)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: U.S. Body Source

Sorry about the wrong name in my previous post.  I got my hood from U>S. 
Body Source NOT U.S. Auto Body.   My memory is obviously going south in my 
old age.  :-)

Al Varhus
Columbus, Ohio 
http://www.infinet.com/~avar
 
  

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 06:41:43 -0800
From: "Gary Andresen" <Gary.Andresen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Bryceman's page

Bryceman,

Why don't you post your decimal IP address, which should eliminate
the problem.

Regards,

Gary
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bryceman <bryceman@442.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Bryceman's page


>>COUPE KING wrote:
>>
>>> Is something wrong with my computer or is this a problem at the site?
>>>Anybody
>>> else having troubles getting to this page? Need my classified fix!
>>
>
>A few weeks ago my ISP moved my site from their fast Sun server to their
>old (slower) Sun server to perform some upgrades and housecleaning on the
>faster box. The two servers are in the same room but naturally have
>different IP numbers. When my site was moved, my domain name (www.442.com)
>was also redirected to the new location.
>For any people out there who are having trouble getting to my site, the
>problem is most likely with the Domain Name Server at your ISP. Your ISP's
>DNS has a cache for all of it's Domain Names which should be deleted on a
>regular basis and rebuilt. If the ISP in question is not deleting the DNS
>cache regularly, when you try to go to www.442.com, you get sent to the
>server where my site _used_ to be.
>The only solutions are to wait and hope your ISP gets around to deleting
>the cache, or call them and ask them to do it.
>Sorry for all of the confusion. Even when these DNS snafus are cleared up,
>my site will still be slower because its riding on a slow, high traffic
>server. When my ISP eventually gets upgrades and housecleaning done, I will
>be back on the fast server so please bear with me. Thanks alot.
>
>Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
>'66 Dynamic 88 B07 Apprehender
>'65 442 Post Coupe
>'65 Vista Cruiser
>'72 H/O Convertible Pace Car Replica
>Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:21:29 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: My first try at a web page

NotDads442 wrote:
> 
> Hi Olds folks,
> 
> Well I've been working on my first web page and now have it done enough to let
> y'all look at it.  Just a couple of pics of my car, 1991 W41, and some .wav
> files.
> 
> I took the laptop to the garage tonight and started the record.  I think it
> turned out pretty cool.  Those of you with a q4 will probably like it.  For
> those with the big v8s it probably won't be as impressive. ;-) I'm not going
> there again ;-).

Sweet. Never seen a W41 before. I couldn't get your sounds to load,
though. It kept giving me a "invalid file" error. Might just be me! The
pics could use a little scaling down as Charley said. Make your tags
like this= <img src=xxxxxx.gif width=300> or something. It'll work. Make
it just small enough to fit on a whole page on the screen.

- -- 
**********************************
Matt Cremean
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
CreamerSoftİ Software
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
**********************************

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:39:59 +0100
From: "cb006323" <usi.con@consunet.nl>
Subject: alu window strips

Dit is een meerdelig bericht in MIME-indeling.

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Does anyone know how I can put on my aluminium strips from my windows =
without damaging the paint.??
Hopefully someone can assist me.
Thanks in advance

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:45:28 -0500
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: holes in air duct - 76 Delta Royale

At 08:25 PM 1/23/1998 -0800, you wrote:

>It is the first one: air duct for the engine's air-cleaner snorkel. What is
>an NOS?

NOS means "new old stock," and it refers to a part that was made back at
the time the car itself was new but has been sitting on the shelf all these
years.  So it's technically "new" in the sense that it's never been used,
but it's "old" in the sense that it's physically as old as the car you're
going to put it on.


Dan


*********************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
*********************************************************

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 07:18:55 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: U.S. Body Source

The Viking wrote:
> 
> Sorry about the wrong name in my previous post.  I got my hood from U>S.
> Body Source NOT U.S. Auto Body.   My memory is obviously going south in my
> old age.  :-)
> 
> Al Varhus
> Columbus, Ohio
> http://www.infinet.com/~avar
> 
> 

Give us a way to get a hold of these folk.

Chris Sparks

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:08:15 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Crankscrapers

Studebaker used plain red Rustoleum primer.  It soesn't come out by vatting
or other normal use either.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible

>>
>
>   Mikey,
>
>     From your experience on painting the inside of the block and pan,
where
>can I get this paint or what type should I use?  I have never heard of this
>before but then again I haven't any experience in this.
>
>
>   Glenn
>   '69 4-4-2
>
>

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:52:05 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: PowerTrax   Was: Axle Ratio

>What's a powertrax unit??

>

>

>Vince Knight

>71  Cutlass Supreme Convertible 

>


It's a Locker that replaces the spider gears. It looks like just like a spool except it has two plates with springs and notched teeth. No friction plates to wear out either...




T. H. Shires				81 C/S/B Rckt 350

mailto:TwoDogs@ou.edu


<bold>University of Oklahoma

</bold><italic><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>Aerospace 
Engineering

</color><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Mechanical Engineering

</color></italic>

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:06:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Karamanos <jalkara@whidbey.net>
Subject: wagoon id

boy was i stupid last night.  i have to chalk it up to having wood
working tools in my hands yesterday instead of cold hard chrome plated
steel wrenches.
the vin of thewagoon is
1G3AP35Y1CX114018

i would go to your www address except that i only get email on a pine
program as my old and small 386/40  4ram 210rom 2400modem Geos operating
program computer just wont handle anything else.   we will step up
sometime soon, after we get some more done on the cars.

the heater core leaks  and the front tires are in need of replacing.  as
the doors were locked and it was in a parking area i could not look at
much, the people are selling it for their sister who went to england and
dont know much when i talked to them on the phone.  today later i might
get to drive it i hope.

thanks

47rocket98

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:59:29 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: J&M in CA

That phone number is 909/688-7110.  


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'64 Cutlass, '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '69 Toronado, '72 Vista
Cruiser (twin hauler)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/

Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Glass Line's Bulletin Board: http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/oldsbbs/index.cgi

Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://server.exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:07:28 EST
From: NotDads442 <NotDads442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: My first try at a web page

Charlie wrote 

<<The "exterior.jpg" might need a "width = 100" or something like that?  (HTML
pro's jump in here please) I'm at 800 X 600, and have to scroll over a bit,
which I don't mind at all personally (as far as I'm concerned, pictures
~can't~ be too big! 
Ain't much that prints out better than a well-scanned 5 Meg picture, but
that's kinda asking a bit too much of any web page!  :(  I remember reading
someone's top ten whine-list of web pages, and one of those was the need to
scroll sideways.  >>
 
I guess I didn't think about that.  I'm running 1024x768 so I didn't think
about that.
You should she the size of the orignal pic.  It's 1024x768 is a bmp and is
over 2mb!  I shrunk it down and converted it to a jpg to make is smaller and
load faster.  I have a smaller image but it just isn't as sharp.  I might need
to have by buddy rescan the pics and leave them at a 3x5 inch images size.

<<All looked great to me.  Except I noticed ~one~ thing missing, the link to
the "Oh, you want to hear it doing what it does best, catching heavy rubber
through three gears...."  'Course, I suppose the significant other played a
censorship role there?  >>

Uhhh yeah.  Yeah it did.  She did get a good laugh when I read her this
though.  Mainly I dont have that yet because it's too cold here and I haven't
yet figured out how to get the microphone close enough to record that well.  I
don't think I can run fast enough and hold the laptop steady enough to get
that sound ;-).

Cecil
1991 W41
OCA#29604

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:25:18 -0600 (CST)
From: Bryceman <bryceman@442.com>
Subject: Re: Bryceman's page

>Why don't you post your decimal IP address, which should eliminate
>the problem.

Ok, here it is
http://206.52.158.153

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
'66 Dynamic 88 B07 Apprehender
'65 442 Post Coupe
'65 Vista Cruiser
'72 H/O Convertible Pace Car Replica
Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:42:46 EST
From: Oldsparts <Oldsparts@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  65 98 conv for sale

I met a guy yesterday here in St. Joseph, Mo. ( 1 hour north of Kansas City )
who has a very nice 65 98 convert for sale. This car is HUGE! It's white with
white top and blue interior.  Car seems very dry and is in nice original
condition.  It's not really my cup of tea, but for a big car guy it is
probably a bargain.  He is asking $5,500.  All the usual disclaimers apply.  I
could take another look at it for any interested parties, if you have specific
questions you want answered.    Call him at 816-232-3298 if your interested.  

Sincerely  For Oldsmobiles
Steve Kenny
Brothers Automotive Products
www.oldsparts.com
800-442-PART

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:07:37 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Ya never guess

Hi all,

I was busy taking some carpeting out of my spare 442 and lo and behold
I found the build sheet!  Pretty bad shape, however, it spells out
some of the options it came with (that still remain and not).  Boy was
I jazzed.


Later.....

Chris Sparks

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:42:08 -0600
From: Marc Hartler <mhartler@allstate.com>
Subject: Anti-sway Bars

Hi...
  I have a 70 442. I was toying with the idea of changing the
sway bars and related hardware. A question for you more
experienced mechanics...do sway bars wear out or do I just
need to replace all the mounting hardware to enhance
handling? If I do replace the bars...should I go thicker (have
a 1" front now)? Has anyone changed them and can tell me
if there's really a handling gain?

Thanks for the help.
mh

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:49:31 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: wagoon id

Jack Karamanos wrote:
> 
> boy was i stupid last night.  i have to chalk it up to having wood
> working tools in my hands yesterday instead of cold hard chrome plated
> steel wrenches.
> the vin of thewagoon is
> 1G3AP35Y1CX114018

I ran my program and everything seems to check out.  I got for
results:

1982 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser
4-door Wagon
Oldsmobile 307 V8
Assm. in Fairfax, KS
The 114018 is the serial number.  Serial #'s started at 100,001
for that year, so yours is early in the production run.

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|	__    ________						|
|	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
|	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
|	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
|	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
|								|
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:54:41 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: EMT Cast Iron Treatment

Has anyone heard of "EMT Cast Iron Treatment"?  I was watching
HotRod TV today and they sprayed this stuff on an old, rusted
exhaust manifold and it looked pretty darn good!  He brushed all
the scaly rust off and sprayed a few coats of this on and
"buffed" the shine into it with newspaper.  Does anyone have any
experience with this?  I was thinking of doing it to my rear
brake drums because there is rust that you can see through the
SSIII's.  Any opinions on this product?

Thanks. 

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|	__    ________						|
|	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
|	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
|	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
|	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
|								|
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:56:18 +0000
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: decoding codes?

Hello everyone.

I know I asked this before but I lost the info some where.  If any one could
help with the codes again.  The list below are the codes that are on the
lable in the trunk.

AM6-
AO1-
A31-POWER WINDOWS
A42-
B51-
B84-SIDE MOULDING
B93- DOOR EDGE MOLDING
C49-REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER
C60-
D35-
D7T-
E5Z-
E7Z-
GM8-
G89-
JM5-
KM9-
K34-CRUISE (STILL WORKS)
K64-
LV2-
MW9-
MX0-
NA5-
N33-TILT WHEEL
N67-
O69-
QMX-
STE-
UA1-
UM7-
UQ1-
U64-
U73-
VK3-
VQ2-
VQ7-
VX5-
VYZ-
V2E-
V2Q-
V73-
YT9-
Y76-
Z5U-
278-
27I-
279-
31Q-
6NN-
7NR-
8ST-
9ST-

Thanks in advance and sorry for the length I am trying to put together a
small folder about my car, IE options, tune ups, up keep ect.
  

 
Clarence
86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
San Antonio

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:48:52 -0800
From: Larry Polesnak 62 Starfire <bullets@sgi.net>
Subject: My First Web Page

Hi everyone,it is my first web page,hope you like it.. Larry Polesnak
 "http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/6250/"
  
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           /\__/Amateur Radio Station  WB3KJG  ARES,RACES\__/\   
      /\__/Skywarn/ 1O1O# 459OO /BreezeShooters Number 87-279 \__/\    
     / BreezeShooters web site   http://www.users.sgi.net/~wolfie/ \
    / 1962 STARFIRE"http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/6250/" \ 
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:17:26 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: option codes

Hi all,

A while back, maybe over a year ago, someone posted option codes for
what I think was 1964 - 1975.  Can someone please e-mail this back
to me.  It seems that I only had a hard copy of it and it is no longer
around.

TIA


Chris Sparks

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:05:45 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: My first try at a web page

> <<The "exterior.jpg" might need a "width = 100" or something like that?  (HTML
> pro's jump in here please) 

	< < < Other Pasted Stuff > > >

Sweet. Never seen a W41 before. I couldn't get your sounds to load,
though. It kept giving me a "invalid file" error. Might just be me! The
pics could use a little scaling down as Charley said. Make your tags
like this= <img src=xxxxxx.gif width=300> or something. It'll work. Make
it just small enough to fit on a whole page on the screen.

	< < < S N I P > > >

I don't recall the ~exact~ html code for it (which is why I'd hoped a
"pro" would step in here, but there's an HTML command that will scale
the image according to the screen it's viewed on.  Something similar to
the width = 100. It's a percentage thing.  I can't recall the exact
protocol for it.  The width = 100 and width = 300 will both make the
image smaller, and ~really~ small on big screens.  Those are pixel
references, instead of percentages.  Ring any bells to anyone?  The page
loaded plenty fast for me, so I can't see any reason to actually shrink
the file (I ~hate~ choppy graphics! Trust me, I've got enough of ~those~
on ~my~ page!)

> I guess I didn't think about that.  I'm running 1024x768 so I didn't think about that.

Yeah, and with a 100% command in there (However it's supposed to be
done!) it'll look right to you ~and~ to the sorry kids running 320 X
480...

Anyone know that command???

> 'Course, I suppose the significant other played a censorship role there?

> Uhhh yeah.  Yeah it did.  She did get a good laugh when I read her this
> though.  Mainly I dont have that yet because it's too cold here and I haven't
> yet figured out how to get the microphone close enough to record that well. 

We won't tell her about those plans yet, eh?  :)

> I don't think I can run fast enough and hold the laptop steady enough to get
> that sound ;-).

Try a boom box or something, with a decent microphone.  Maybe dual
mic's, one on each side of the car?  Stereo!  :)  Have some fun, look
like Motor Trend, with these "extras" duct taped to the fenders, etc.
and make a day of it!  :)  When ya get home, patch the tape deck into
your sound card, and make the *.wav files that way.  With decent, clean
equipment, you should be able to get some good quality still.

Hmm.  ~I~ might have to try that sometime!  Hmm......

               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:19:19 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Lets go bowling

Hi all,

Does anyone know what happened to the automotive by Bowling site?

Can't access anymore.

Chris

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:22:00 EST
From: Chunsa442 <Chunsa442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 4 spd auto shifter wanted ...86 salon

Bernie:

I put a B&M MegaShifter (p/n 80690) in J.Y. Angel and it works real well
(straight detent through drive then ratchets up/down through the forward
gears).  This thing works for 3-speeds as well (you just remove a bolt and use
the 4-speed indicator cover).

Alas, it does not work with the stock console (and I have not found one that
does), but the top on the provided plastic cover fits exactly inside the space
left when you remove the stock cover.

Cheers!

Allen

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Allen Eastlake
     Annandale, Virginia
          "J.Y. Angel" (1986 442)
          "Reston Valdez" (1983 Volvo GL Sedan)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:34:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: V6 -> V8 in G body?

My buddy has decided to finally rid himself of the Buick scourge (e.g.
231 V-6).  I've got a question from him.  This was not an issue when
putting my car together (350 in G-body) because my car was previously set
up for a Chevy motor so I definitely had to move mine.  Can he simply bolt
the motor (a "9" engine code 307 w/ all original peripherals) up on the
stock V-6 motor mounts or will he have to use a different set?  This makes
a big difference as we are going to reuse the stock frame mounts and don't
want to take the time and effort to remove them if we don't have to.

Any help appreciated.

PS.  I would appreciate if you could reply ASAP as he is planning on
starting on this mondy or perhaps Sunday.  Who on the list has done this
swap before, anybody know?

Thanks much,
Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
Clayton Pierce,
zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:47:48 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: decoding codes?

Hello there
We have just ordered serveral decoding books for 64-69 olds.
We  should have them in about a week the printer told us.
If you can't find all the codes by that time check back with me and I will
see what I can do for you.
Thanks Coy

- ----------
> From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: decoding codes?
> Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 2:56 PM
> 
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I know I asked this before but I lost the info some where.  If any one
could
> help with the codes again.  The list below are the codes that are on the
> lable in the trunk.
> 
> AM6-
> AO1-
> A31-POWER WINDOWS
> A42-
> B51-
> B84-SIDE MOULDING
> B93- DOOR EDGE MOLDING
> C49-REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER
> C60-
> D35-
> D7T-
> E5Z-
> E7Z-
> GM8-
> G89-
> JM5-
> KM9-
> K34-CRUISE (STILL WORKS)
> K64-
> LV2-
> MW9-
> MX0-
> NA5-
> N33-TILT WHEEL
> N67-
> O69-
> QMX-
> STE-
> UA1-
> UM7-
> UQ1-
> U64-
> U73-
> VK3-
> VQ2-
> VQ7-
> VX5-
> VYZ-
> V2E-
> V2Q-
> V73-
> YT9-
> Y76-
> Z5U-
> 278-
> 27I-
> 279-
> 31Q-
> 6NN-
> 7NR-
> 8ST-
> 9ST-
> 
> Thanks in advance and sorry for the length I am trying to put together a
> small folder about my car, IE options, tune ups, up keep ect.
>   
> 
>  
> Clarence
> 86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
> San Antonio
> 

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:53:59 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: J&M in CA

Hello Olds fans.
We have finally got our Web Site up and running.
The site is engineeredgraphics.com. If you have problems referencing it
email me to let me know.
We would like to hear from other olds fans to create links to there pages.
We will be doing and update next week with our 68 442 and the stripes that
we sell and we are currently working on a 76 442 stripe kit also.
If there is any kind of stripe or logo you would like to see email us.
Also if you decide to us our service and say you saw our web site you get a
10% price dicount. And just for having an Olds you will get an additional
5% off.
Thanks
coyster@earthlink.net
"Rocket"

- ----------
> From: TERMO1L <TERMO1L@aol.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: J&M in CA
> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 3:06 PM
> 
> I know where it is located but I am in WI does anyone know a number or
address
> of J&M speed center in Riverside CA?
> 
> Mike

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:01:39 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: decoding codes?

clarence wirtz wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I know I asked this before but I lost the info some where.  If any one could
> help with the codes again.  The list below are the codes that are on the
> lable in the trunk.
> 
> AM6-SEAT, DIVIDED FRONT WITH DUAL CONTROLS
> AO1-WINDOWS, SOFT RAY TINTED
> A31-POWER WINDOWS
> A42-SEAT ADJUSTER, 6-WAY POWER
> B51-
> B84-SIDE MOULDING
> B93-DOOR EDGE MOLDING
> C49-REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER
> C60-AIR CONDITIONER
> D35-MIRRORS, COLOR COORDINATED OUTSIDE, REMOTE DRIVER'S SIDE
> D7T-
> E5Z-
> E7Z-
> GM8-2.56 GEAR RATIO
> G89-
> JM5-
> KM9-
> K34-CRUISE (STILL WORKS)
> K64-
> LV2-5.0-LITER V8
> MW9-
> MX0-AUTOMATIC OVERDRIVE
> NA5-FEDERAL EMISSION SYSTEM
> N33-TILT WHEEL
> N67-BODY COLOR SUPER STOCK WHEELS
> O69-
> QMX-R195/75R14 SBR TIRES, WHITE STRIPE
> STE-
> UA1-BATTERY SYSTEM, HIGH CAPACITY
> UM7-
> UQ1-
> U64-
> U73-
> VK3-
> VQ2-
> VQ7-
> VX5-
> VYZ-
> V2E-
> V2Q-
> V73-
> YT9-
> Y76-
> Z5U-
> 278-
> 27I-
> 279-
> 31Q-
> 6NN-
> 7NR-
> 8ST-
> 9ST-

I added what I could...

...hope it helps.

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|	__    ________						|
|	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
|	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
|	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
|	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
|								|
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:03:14 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Lets go bowling

mrada wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know what happened to the automotive by Bowling site?
> 
> Can't access anymore.
> 
> Chris

Try:

http://sura1.jlab.org/~bowling/auto_noframe.html

I just looked at it right now and I can see it alright.

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|	__    ________						|
|	\ \  / __  __/	Jason Adcock				|
|	 \ \/ / / /	CS Major, Virginia Tech			|
|	  \  / / /	mailto:jadcock@vt.edu			|
|	   \/ /_/	http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/		|
|								|
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:16:28 EST
From: Knightvd <Knightvd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: PowerTrax   Was: Axle Ratio

In a message dated 98-01-24 15:40:29 EST, you write:

<< It's a Locker that replaces the spider gears. It looks like just like a
spool except it has two plates with springs and notched teeth. No friction
plates to wear out either...
  >>

Is this setup practical for use on the street or is it intended for racing
only?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:25:35 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: option codes

mrada wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> A while back, maybe over a year ago, someone posted option codes for
> what I think was 1964 - 1975.  Can someone please e-mail this back
> to me.  It seems that I only had a hard copy of it and it is no longer
> around.


Chris, Chris, Chris,
...What are we going to do with you?  
This information is in the OLDS FAQ! You DO have a copy, don't you?

- -- 
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:59:40 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Lets go bowling

In a message dated 98-01-24 20:43:18 EST, you write:

<< Hi all,
 
 Does anyone know what happened to the automotive by Bowling site? >>
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ----------
I can access via this address on AOL.

http://sura1.jlab.org/~bowling/auto_noframe.html

Rgds,
Rob Thomas

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:34:46 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: decoding codes?

I'll fill in a few holes for ya with my build sheet...

>I know I asked this before but I lost the info some where.  If any one could
>help with the codes again.  The list below are the codes that are on the
>lable in the trunk.
>
>AM6-55-45 SEAT
>AO1-ALL TNTD GLASS
>A31-POWER WINDOWS
>A42-
>B51-
>B84-SIDE MOULDING
>B93- DOOR EDGE MOLDING
>C49-REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER
>C60-AIR COND
>D35-SPORT MIR L/R
>D7T-
>E5Z-
>E7Z-
>GM8-
>G89-
>JM5-TANDEM BOOSTER
>KM9-ALUM MANIFOLD
>K34-CRUISE (STILL WORKS)
>K64-
>LV2-ENGINE CODE..
>MW9-
>MX0-TRANSMISSION CODE..
>NA5-STD EMISSIONS
>N33-TILT WHEEL
>N67-
>O69-
>QMX-TIRE SIZE...
>STE-
>UA1-
>UM7-
>UQ1-
>U64-
>U73-
>VK3-FRNT LIC BRKT
>VQ2-
>VQ7-
>VX5-
>VYZ-
>V2E-
>V2Q-
>V73-
>YT9-
>Y76-
>Z5U-
>278-
>27I-
>279-
>31Q-
>6NN-
>7NR-
>8ST-
>9ST-
>
>Thanks in advance and sorry for the length I am trying to put together a
>small folder about my car, IE options, tune ups, up keep ect.
>  
>
> 
>Clarence
>86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
>San Antonio
>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:56:49 EST
From: Wrencher43 <Wrencher43@aol.com>
Subject: 50 Olds needs more help

Hi Gang

I'm looking for old Olds' parts again. I know a few of you have responded
before.

First, I need a vertex magneto for 60 to 63 394.  I'm sure these are pretty
scarce by now.

Also, does anyone know of, or have info on, a complete rear end swap for 50
olds.  I cant find any of my old books on this and its been a long while since
doing this. The easiest if I  recall, would be an early Pontiac.

I also need a winning Calif. Lotto ticket :)


Any help appreciated. Thanks

Mike M.

Wrencher43@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:02:57 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: decoding codes?

> From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: decoding codes?
> Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 5:56 PM
> 
> AM6-Seat Asm. - Front seat split 60-40 W/center arm rest
> AO1-Glass  tinted all windows
> A31-POWER WINDOWS
> A42-Seat Adjuster 6 way power single unit
> B51-Moulding - Rocker panel wide
> B84-SIDE MOULDING
> B93- DOOR EDGE MOLDING
> C49-REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER
> C60-Air Conditioning - manual cont.
> D35-Mirror - remote LH custom
> D7T-  there is no D7T but there is a DF3 or D73 
> E5Z-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> E7Z-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> GM8-Axle ratio 2.56
> G89-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> JM5-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> KM9-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> K34-CRUISE (STILL WORKS)
> K64-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> LV2-Does not compute the only LV code is LV8 260 V-8 1976 Check your
codes please
> MW9-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> MX0-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> NA5-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> N33-TILT WHEEL
> N67-Wheels Rallye Super stock III Chrome 14"
> O69Not in GM parts book Check your code
> QMX-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> STE-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> UA1-Battery Heavy Duty
> UM7-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> UQ1-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> U64-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> U73-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> VK3-Mounting Front Lic. Plate
> VQ2-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> VQ7-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> VX5-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> VYZ-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> V2E-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> V2Q-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> V73-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> YT9-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> Y76-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> Z5U-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 278-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 27I-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 279-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 31Q-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 6NN-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 7NR-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 8ST-Not in GM parts book Check your code
> 9ST-Not in GM parts book Check your code

my list is from the GM parts catalogue covering 64 - 76 Oldsmobiles
many of your codes don't excist in this or any other of my books

I know I probably didn't help much but I did what I could

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
1970 442 Convertible
1970 Cutlass W- 31 4 gear
1970 Rallye 350
1970 Cutlass Convertible ( 13.4 et)

  

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:05:48 -0500
From: "Michael A. Evans" <evans1@net-link.net>
Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0

subscribe oldsmobile

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:06:02 EST
From: Bowtie911 <Bowtie911@aol.com>
Subject: Re: U.S. Auto Body

Can someone supply an e-mail address or telephone number for U.S. Body. Would
be interested in hood for my 65 442
Harvey Shaw
bowtie411

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:46:48 EST
From: KS7RACING <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: wagoon id

Jack & Jason,

I can add a little to the info regarding the VIN with the Fairfax code: the GM
Fairfax plant (Kansas City, Kansas) was at one time a North American bomber
plant that produced the B-25 Mitchell during World War II. It was a large-car
assembly plant until the original plant closed some time in the mid-to-late
80's. The new Fairfax plant produced Cutlass Supremes (don't know now if the
new Cutlass is, though) and started out building Pontiac Grand Prix's.

Just a half-cent from me,

Ken Snyder

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:44:35 EST
From: BIG JERMES <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: Re: My 200-4R info wanted...

In a message dated 98-01-24 07:34:55 EST, you write:

<< I've got it....let me know if you don't hear from anyone else...I
 gigure you don't want 50 people to mail it to you in its entirety... :-) >>

hey mat, mind sending it to me too?  id really apreciate it!

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:13:59 -0800
From: cya442@mindspring.com
Subject: Vacuum Lines??

I am getting ready to replace my 4011 Holley with a rebuilt Q-Jet.
There are three vacuum ports and one PCV port on the carb and I am
wondering what connects to the different ports.  There are two in the
back and one in the front.  Now I know that one is for the choke but
what hooks to the other ones?  Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
- --
Chris Miller
'68 442
Tustin, CA
mailto:cya442@mindspring.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:10:59 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: decoding codes?

clarence wirtz wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I know I asked this before but I lost the info some where.  If any one could
> help with the codes again.  The list below are the codes that are on the
> lable in the trunk.

The Turbo Regal homepage has a listing of all 85-87 Regal RPO codes... 
It's real good an outta all the ones you listed, I think when I did mine
there, I only got like 9 unknowns...  Checkd the RPO sticker to make
sure I got 'em right, then just figured they were Olds related.
- -- 
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:13:33 -0500
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Re: My 200-4R info wanted...

BIG JERMES wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 98-01-24 07:34:55 EST, you write:
> 
> << I've got it....let me know if you don't hear from anyone else...I
>  gigure you don't want 50 people to mail it to you in its entirety... :-) >>
> 
> hey mat, mind sending it to me too?  id really apreciate it!

Count me in too, please....

- ------------------------------
S. Dave Ward  (mailto:ward@ptbo.igs.net)

'78 Delta 88 Royale (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 R.B.   (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4  (305 TBI)

(Ennismore, Ontario, CANADA)

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:46:51 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: option codes

Kurt Heinrich wrote:
> 
> ...What are we going to do with you?
> This information is in the OLDS FAQ! You DO have a copy, don't you?

I am not worthy! :-)  Shoulda checked that out. Sorry

Chris Sparks

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:12:26 -0600
From: dnewman@wcbi.com (Doug Newman)
Subject: Lansing Video FINISHED!

Hi folks,
              For the new list members who weren't around when this idea
first came about, an explanation is at the bottom of the post.
              After a lot of delays, the Unofficial Oldsmobile Centennial
Celebration video is completed.  I want to thank everyone for their
patience, because this has been a long process beginning back on August 24,
1997.  The tape was edited on DVC, (digital tape) so there was no video
generation loss like you'd get if you went from VHS to VHS.  Cost to list
members is $20.00 U.S., which includes shipping.  Snail-mail address is
below.  To everyone who contacted me privately back in August, I will also
be sending you a private post.  More details follow...

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ------------------------------------

To new list members,
                 I've worked in television for a little over ten years, and
I've produced my fair share of weddings, fraternity rush videos, and high
school graduation videos.  As you probably already know, during the last
week of August in '97, Oldsmobile held its Centennial in Lansing, MI.  Some
of the list members took their cameras, and shot a load of video of all the
beautiful cars on display.  Since I didn't get to attend, I volunteered to
dub their raw video and edit it together into an Olds e-mail list video
scrapbook.  This is not a tape of corporate self-praise, and I'm not
affiliated with Olds, GM, or any other group that produced tapes.  This is
strictly a car video for car guys and ladies.  There is no narration to
distract you.  Every shot is edited to music.  It contains 16 songs,
including Kathy Mattea's "455 Rocket" and Jackie Brenston and the Delta Cats
"Rocket 88".  Total running time is 1:01:55.  You'll see some cars owned by
list members, as well as a few list members themselves.  Again, cost is
$20.00 U.S.  This includes postage.  If you do decide to order, please
include your e-mail addres with your order so I can contact you when I
receive it.  Snail-mail address follows, and I look forward to hearing from
anyone interested.  If you have any questions, e-mail me privately to keep
list traffic down.  Thanks for your time.

dnewman@wcbi.com

Doug Newman
22 Ridge Road
Columbus, MS   39701

1987 4-4-2
http://www.442.com/newman.html      

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:37:19 EST
From: KarlAune <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Extinct Dash Lights

This actually happened to my father's Oldsmobile!

On his 1976 "droop snoot" Cutlass "S" 4dr hdtp (in which I learned to drive
[by the seat of my pants.....]) the dash lights went out in approx. 1987. I
had heard something like; they went out because the dash lights were in
_series_ (emphasis definately added). I personally tried to swap a new light
control (headlight/int/dimmer) switch with no change in the situation. I
actually removed the two bulbs that illuminated the spedometer, but could not
tell if theyhad burned out or not (the other bulbs were too difficult to
reach...)

Hope this might inspire some fix....

KA and SOM
(trembling in anticipation of the S#P@R B0WL

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:37:17 EST
From: KarlAune <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: An odd twist to: Karl's Law

So one week ago today I circumvented a bad coil reistor by swapping in a Super
Coil and its resistor. Everything went fine until Tuesday, when the idiot
lights came on (std. for starting) but it would not start. In fact, try as I
might I could get no response. Io even tried starting it on Wednesday when I
was on my way to catch the bus to work.

So tonight, just when I am ready to get down to the nitty-gritty of pulling
the starter out and cleaning/fixing it up. I decide to try it one last time. 

It started, and I did not even stomp the gas pedal in preparation to an
attemped start (usually required).

Would someone please explain to me how it starts on Monday, but after two
failed crankings, the solonoid will not pop, but only the idiot lights come on
Tuesday.

Mr. A. Green, why did you not tell me that Oldsmobile started putting logic
circuits into their cars in 1965? I figure that Soylent Ocean Mist must have
wanted the week off before the super bowl.

Karl Aune and Soylent Ocean Mist
1965 Dynamic 88 Celebrity Sedan
Members;OCA, IVOC

members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html

Karl Aune

If you make your reservations for Springfield now, your Oldsmobile may forgive
you.

(Details on the Oldsmobile Nationals to follow in a scant few hours.)

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:06:18 -0500
From: Jim Hurd <jhurd@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: My 200-4R info wanted...

>In a message dated 98-01-24 07:34:55 EST, you write:
>
><< I've got it....let me know if you don't hear from anyone else...I
> gigure you don't want 50 people to mail it to you in its entirety... :-) >>
>
>hey mat, mind sending it to me too?  id really apreciate it!
>

        I'd appreciate a copy also.  TIA




Jim H. 
'87 Salon

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