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oldsmobile-digest     Tuesday, December 30 1997     Volume 01 : Number 1034



UNBOUNCE: 1985 Calais Indy 500 Pace Car
PARTS AND MORE PARTS (AND A FEW WHOLE CARS)
Re: Rear Disc Swap/ was...no subject...
Re: WAs -Re: Tranny stuck in drive!!- NOW- Shifter cable is  melted!!!
Re: Rear Disc Swap/ was...no subject...
thanks
Re: UNBOUNCE: OldsmoChristmas, Oldsmosnow, etc...
hello
Re: Back!
Undeliverable Message
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Re: Rear Control Arms
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removing chrome trim around windows
Spkr cover actuators
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Re: putting headers on the '70 442
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Chicago Area Carb. Shops
unsubscribe
Re: 80' Cutlass Supreme
Re: hello
??? Car doesn't start if the lights are on
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Re: hello
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425 pistons into 400 'E' block?
Re: engine codes
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:23:48 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 1985 Calais Indy 500 Pace Car

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:CCWilk316 <CCWilk316@aol.com>
Subject: 1985 Calais Indy 500 Pace Car

I am curious if anyone has a general idea about how much these cars are worth.
I had someone ask me this because I have a 1977 Delta 88 Pace Car.  I had no
idea of the value of the 1985 Pace Cars.  Any help would be appreciated.
Assume that the car would be original and in average condition with about 50K
miles.  Thank You.
Chuck

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:32:20 -0500
From: "VanSant, David CWO" <DVanSant@lantd5.uscg.mil>
Subject: PARTS AND MORE PARTS (AND A FEW WHOLE CARS)

Aaron passed the word about http://www.mm.com/swapmeet/others/cparts.htm
so here is are the contents of the Oldsmobile parts and OEM sellers.
Happy shopping.


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Date of Posting: 11/1/97
Email Address: oemcarbs@connecti.com
Description:  For Sale:  1956 - 1974 Collector Car Carburetors.  Carter,
Holley, Rochester.
Mark Smith. Ph/Fax: 830 560-1205.
City: Mc Queeney
State: Texas

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Date of Posting: 11/01/97
Email Address: arayman@aol.com
Description:  1957 Oldsmobile J-2 tri-power unit.  Complete, carburetors
intake, water neck,
linkage, and air cleaners. $450
City: West Palm Beach
State: Florida

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Date of Posting: 11.2.97
Email Address: motorsport@gci-net.com
Description:  For Sale:  1974 Olds 442 hood, AZ part, with original
paint bad, but it's in great
shape.  Asking 350.00 plus freight.
City: Tucson
State: Arizona

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Date of Posting: 11/5/97
Email Address: knightvd@norand.com
Description: Set of 4 Oldsmobile "Polycast" wheels with center caps.
Used on full sized cars.
Good condition.  Best offer.
City: Souderton
State: Pennsylvania

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Date of Posting: 11/5/97
Email Address: calis@thewebcorp.com
Description:  For Sale:  Air conditioning and power steering for a 56
model GM car
City: Johnson City
State: Tennessee

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Date of Posting: Nov 6 1997
Email Address: hbose@nanaimo.ark.com
Description: 1967 Olds 98 Convertible.  Complete car only.  Restoration
project.
City: BC Canada
State: N/A

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Date of Posting: 11/07/97
Email Address: bigkingc@swbell.net
Description:  Looking for shop manuals?  Tell me what you need. 40's
thru 80's. Good selection.
E-mail with request!!
City: Kansas City
State: Missouri

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Date of Posting: 11/08/97
Email Address: CARBOOKS@aol.com
Description:  Many Factory Service and Owners Manuals for sale or trade.
 E-mail wants
City:
State: N/A

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Date of Posting: 9 Nov 97
Email Address: turbonet@gte.net
Description:  63 Olds Jetfire Turbocharged 215ci, automatic
transmission.  New interior, tires
striped and almost ready for paint (have original color paint) going to
school, no time to finish.
Make offer
City: Oxnard
State: California

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Date of Posting: 12/03/97
Email Address: mommac@gate.net
Description:  Convertible top frame (1968-1972) GM "A" body - $250, plus
shipping.
(352) 688-8199
City: Spring Hill
State: Florida

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Date of Posting: 12/03/97
Email Address: mommac@gate.net
Description:  Tilt steering column (1969 to 1972 GM "A" body) one floor
shift and one column
shift, completely re-conditioned, ready to bolt in - 175 each, plus
shipping. (352) 688-8199
City: Spring Hill
State: Florida

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Date of Posting: 1/3/97
Email Address: DWHDKH@world net.Att.net
Description:  1968 Olds Cutlass S 350, shift kit, Flowmaster muffler
system, ceramic headers
detailed engine compartment, 4:11 rear,  black vinyl top, twilight blue
body.  No rust, black
interior, excellent  chrome & all around condition.  7000 obo 614 633
9135
City: Martins Ferry
State: Ohio

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Date of Posting: 12-4-97
Email Address: beast488@aol.com
Description:  Grills for sale 1950-1974 all kind's over 200 different
kind's.  Also tail lights, a
collection over 30 year's.  E-mail for the kind you are looking for &
price & condition
beast488@aol com
City: West Monroe
State: New York

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Date of Posting: 12/04/97
Email Address: xxgypsyx@aol.com
Description:  NOS brake drums. all makes and models.  I found a seller
with a tractor trailer full
of drums still in the boxes for older American cars.  I have no
affiliation with the seller so call
direct at the toll free number 1-800-898-7278. ask for Clyde or Speedo -
tell them you know
Gypsy.
City: Erie
State: Pennsylvania

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Date of Posting: 12-6-97
Email Address: Novamark@webtv.net
Description:  65 Cutlass fender LH rust free non dented $150.  68-69
Cutlass/442 two door sedan
rust free doors $150 ea.  71-72 Cutlass deck lid rust free with
OLDSMOBILE letters included
$100 plus shipping.  Also have aluminum Olds 350 Offenhauser dual quad
intake manifold.
$175.  E-mail novamark@webtv.net for more info.
City: Phoenix.
State: Arizona

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Date of Posting: 12/10/97
Email Address: kita@snowcrest.net
Description:  Parting out 1956 Olds 88 4 door hardtop. Lots of good
parts left at reasonable
prices. "New E-mail address"
City: NA
State: California

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Date of Posting: 12-11-97
Email Address: LAMPKING01@AOL.COM
Description:  We have automotive lights and body parts for cars and
trucks for 1974 and older
models.
City: North Brunswick
State: New Jersey

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Date of Posting: 12-12-97
Email Address: ezieglar@westol.com
Description:  1965 Olds 442 convertible,400 engine, automatic restorable
with 1965 Olds 442
coupe parts car with 4 speed whole car is here including original hub
caps.  Many extra parts
E-mail for a picture of cars. $5000 or best offer takes all.
City: Irwin
State: Pennsylvania

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Date of Posting: 12/14/97
Email Address: mbgab@iar.net
Description:  Stainless trim pieces that go below the rear window of a
'66-7 GM intermediate two
door hardtop (Chevelle, Cutlass, Skylark, Le Mans), these are new GM
parts that I bought in
1983 and never installed, $50 pair, Jerry Bramlett, (334) 478-4003.
City: Mobile
State: Alabama

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Date of Posting: December 16, 1997
Email Address: mommac@gate.net
Description:  1968 tilt steering column for a Cutlass or any other
General Motors A body car.
The column is complete and in excellent condition.  The price is $250
plus shipping. Call Frank
at 352-688-8199.
City: Spring Hill
State: Florida

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Date of Posting: December 16, 1997
Email Address: mommac@gate.net
Description:  Cutlass grills for 1969, 1969-442, 1970-S, and 1971-S. The
69 set consists of 6
pieces including the headlight housings and bezels all in excellent
condition ($225).  The 69-442
is a pair in good condition ($175).  The 70-S is a pair in very good
condition ($100).  The 71-S is
a pair in almost perfect condition ($150). Shipping is extra. Call Frank
at 352-688-8199.
City: Spring Hill
State: Florida

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Date of Posting: 12-17-97
Email Address: kid tonga@aol
Description:  I have many parts for 1970-1972 cutlass s, 442, and
Cutlass Supreme models.  I
have many options and accessories, power trunk-release, power
door-locks, power windows, tilt
columns, sport mirrors etc.  I also have nice rust free exterior parts
like moldings, fenders,
bumpers, doors, hoods, solid core supports. if interested call 510
489-4251 ask for William
City: Union City
State: California

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Date of Posting: 12/19/97
Email Address: mrk00@psci.net
Description: 1957 GM - original T3 Head lamps, used. - $40 pair.
City: Jasper
State: Indiana

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Date of Posting: 12-21-97
Email Address: woodys-trucks@geocities.com
Description: For sale:  M/T Olds. alum. valve covers-$40
City: Brenham
State: Texas

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Date of Posting: 12/28/97
Email Address: mrsich@gte.net
Description:  1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass parts for sale every part on car
for sale first come first
served 350 engine and transmission.  All good body parts.  May consider
to sell whole
City: New Port Richey
State: Florida

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Date of Posting: 12-29-97
Email Address: mdekker@vaxxine.com
Description:  1964 Oldsmobile 98 For Sale. Western Canadian car, 4 Door,
semi loaded, VERY
restorable. $1100.00 Will E-mail picture if requested.  Call Mel at 905
899 2277
City: Niagara Falls Canada
State: N/A

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Date of Posting: 12-29-97
Email Address: mdekker@vaxxine.com
Description:  1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme - 2 door. Body in good
shape, black interior in
mint condition. Good Restoration project.  $1100.00 Call Mel at 905 899
2277
City: Niagara Falls Canada
State: N/A

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Date of Posting: 12-29-97
Email Address: mdekker@vaxxine.com
Description:  1958 Oldsmobile J2 Intake Manifold For Sale - Best Offer
Call Mel at 905 899
2277
City: Niagara Falls Canada
State: N/A

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Date of Posting: 12/29/97
Email Address: shopmanuals@msn.com
Description:  I have thousands of shop manuals, owners manuals, and
sales brochures for sale.
E-mail me with what your looking for.
City: Portland
State: Oregon

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Date of Posting: 12/29/97
Email Address: vin442@aol.com
Description:  1968 Olds 442.  No drive train.  Was 4 speed car.  Needs
restoration.
Must sell! $1000.00 obo
City: Clark
State: New Jersey

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Dave Van Sant
dvansant@lantd5.uscg.mil
'71 Topless Cutlass Supreme
'88 Plymouth Sundance
'89 Chevrolet Astro
'96 Plymouth Neon DOHC

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:34:57 PST
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap/ was...no subject...

>
>I have a 1971 Old Cutlass. It came with 4 wheel drum brakes on it. My
>mechanic changed the fronts to disk brakes and now I want to change the
>back to disk also. Is it possible to take the parts off a 1974 though
87
>Trans am or Camaro?
>
>Sam
>
Hey Sam,
The rear setup off of the '79-'81 F Bodies will fit with some
modifications. You need the proportioning valve, metering valve,
calipers, rotors, rear emergency brake cables, and the left backing
plate off of one of these cars. You will have to acquire another
driver's side backing plate to use on the passenger side as the one off
the F Body will not fit. You have to pull the axles, swap the parts and
spend a while getting things to fit. I'll be honest with you in that I
don't believe that the swap is worth the effort. Your car will brake in
a somewhat different manner, but I'm not sure if it will actually stop
in a shorter distance. The emergency brake in those cars were less than
adequate and the rotors like to warp terribly.

If you do decide to do this swap please find other people who have done
it to make sure I haven't left anything out. It has been about ten years
since I have performed one of these swaps and my memory is not what it
used to be.

Good Luck!

Brent Pinkstaff
'70 Cutlass S


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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:45:06 -0800
From: Erik Nowacki <enowacki@titan.com>
Subject: Re: WAs -Re: Tranny stuck in drive!!- NOW- Shifter cable is  melted!!!

>in drive. Took back to the mechanic and he found the new cable has
>completely melted, in effect, welding itself to the sheath. MAybe its my
>fault because i did not re-install the center console and reattach the
>center console ground wire to the shifter base.
>
>My question: Is that the problem or could any open circuit or loose ground
>cause this problem? ANy ideas where to look for the culprit?
>
The culprit is under the hood.  Your engine ground strap is
broken/dirty/not functioning any more.  This means that the current that
normally flows from the alternator ground to the negative battery terminal
via the engine ground strap now flows through your shifter cable, causing
it to overheat.  On my 72 VC I have 2 ground straps, a thick one from
underneath the alternator (bolts directly to the block) and a small one
from the back of the cylinder head on the pasenger side to the firewall.
My bet is that your main engine ground strap is FUBAR and you need to
replace it before you get another shifter cable.  The good news is that
this is a fairly simple operation, the bad news is that you need another
shifter cable.

Erik Nowacki
San Diego
72 Vista Cruiser (still missing an axle :-(   )

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:17:11 -0600
From: "Samuel E. Johnson, Jr" <cutlass403@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap/ was...no subject...

Thanks Brent

Maybe I will just leave it the way it is. I thought that it look pretty good
with some aluminum wheels on it, but if it's that much of a headache I will
just concentrate on the motor.

Sam Johnson

Brent Pinkstaff wrote:

> >
> >I have a 1971 Old Cutlass. It came with 4 wheel drum brakes on it. My
> >mechanic changed the fronts to disk brakes and now I want to change the
> >back to disk also. Is it possible to take the parts off a 1974 though
> 87
> >Trans am or Camaro?
> >
> >Sam
> >
> Hey Sam,
> The rear setup off of the '79-'81 F Bodies will fit with some
> modifications. You need the proportioning valve, metering valve,
> calipers, rotors, rear emergency brake cables, and the left backing
> plate off of one of these cars. You will have to acquire another
> driver's side backing plate to use on the passenger side as the one off
> the F Body will not fit. You have to pull the axles, swap the parts and
> spend a while getting things to fit. I'll be honest with you in that I
> don't believe that the swap is worth the effort. Your car will brake in
> a somewhat different manner, but I'm not sure if it will actually stop
> in a shorter distance. The emergency brake in those cars were less than
> adequate and the rotors like to warp terribly.
>
> If you do decide to do this swap please find other people who have done
> it to make sure I haven't left anything out. It has been about ten years
> since I have performed one of these swaps and my memory is not what it
> used to be.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Brent Pinkstaff
> '70 Cutlass S
>
> ______________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:29:14 EST
From: OldsGuyGA <OldsGuyGA@aol.com>
Subject: thanks

  bill,got the mirror today..it's almost like x mas..got the mirror and the
jwo same day

   took guts out and put into another shell i had...someone glued it in...

  have another set located that will hold me for a while,as i need another rh
gut for a
a rh shell,and a few parts for a Lh... thanks....pleasure dealing with you..

  be careful newyears eve want to see you on here agai  jeff......

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:27:08 -0600
From: "Samuel E. Johnson, Jr" <cutlass403@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: OldsmoChristmas, Oldsmosnow, etc...

We in Chicago had snow xmas eve and yesterday. Now we have cold weather. about
25 degrees

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:   Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
> Subject: OldsmoChristmas, Oldsmosnow, etc...
>
> Hello all,
>
> What you all been up to lately?
>
> I just got done reading (mostly deleting) something like 3500 messages
> (everything since you last heard from me...  Enjoyed and envied all the
> new Christmas Oldsmotoys that you mentioned.  My biggest Christmas thing
> was finally getting Lucille running.  Let's just call her "faster than she
> needs to be," but at least the transmission seems to be holding up, knock
> on fake burled walnut (or tiffany wood grain, ever what).  I'll give you
> all further details on that later.  Am also looking at buying another
> "daily driver" as Lucille now needs to be relegated to the "attracks to
> many cops to be driven on a regular basis" category.  I'm looking into
> buying a 1973 Caddilac Sedan de Ville, more on that later as well.  Got
> given an Aurora for Christmas, seriously... well actually, it's about2
> inches long or so, and is painted up like a police cruiser... says'
> "HotWheels on the bottom" :-).  Interestingly enough, noticed that the
> Aurora police cruiser model has a driveshaft and rear-end... chuckle
> chuckle chuckle :-), liked it anyway.  Anyway, as I said, more details
> later, I really gotta go, using my parents computer to access my e-mail,
> and their fixing to go.
>
> Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
> Clayton Pierce,
> zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
> the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
> '84 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (350, 4bbl, TH375(built), 3.73:1, 75k
> miles)
>
> PS, it's snowing here... and I've heard it's pretty dry in like Chicago
> and Minnesota right now... dry and warm, well, it's snowing or at least
> has just got done snowing in East Tennessee.

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:34:59 EST
From: OldsGuyGA <OldsGuyGA@aol.com>
Subject: hello

 hello, called on the car.. the guy at supersports gave me some valuable
info.....

    call or email me jeff....

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:12:32 -0500
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Back!

James Thingwold wrote:
>
> >If I coast a lot I can get 12!  Way to go!!
>
> I can hit 14 if I coast, 12 is my average tho too - thats the 230,000 '72
> model 350 thats getting tiiiiiiiiiiiiired.

The smogger 350 in the '78 is capable of 19 or 20 on the highway,
provided you stick it on 90-95km/h. On the other hand, when your right
foot is on the firewall, it'll get you where you need to go at
175km/h...and at 7mpg!

The best I've ever gotten out of the '85 is 23-24mpg with the 307 ("Y"
w/TH-2004r), and that's taking it relatively easy...no more than 100km/h
at any given time.

And to think that a little Geo Metro (65hp stock, 90 on nitrous) can get
around 60...I guess the line "there's no replacement for displacement'
can work both ways...

- --
S. Dave Ward  (mailto:ward@ptbo.igs.net)

'78 Delta 88 Royale (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 R.B.   (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4  (305 TBI)

(Ennismore, Ontario, CANADA)

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We in Chicago had snow xmas eve and yesterday. Now we have cold weather. about
25 degrees

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:   Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
> Subject: OldsmoChristmas, Oldsmosnow, etc...
>
> Hello all,
>
> What you all been up to lately?
>
> I just got done reading (mostly deleting) something like 3500 messages
> (everything since you last heard from me...  Enjoyed and envied all the
> new Christmas Oldsmotoys that you mentioned.  My biggest Christmas thing
> was finally getting Lucille running.  Let's just call her "faster than she
> needs to be," but at least the transmission seems to be holding up, knock
> on fake burled walnut (or tiffany wood grain, ever what).  I'll give you
> all further details on that later.  Am also looking at buying another
> "daily driver" as Lucille now needs to be relegated to the "attracks to
> many cops to be driven on a regular basis" category.  I'm looking into
> buying a 1973 Caddilac Sedan de Ville, more on that later as well.  Got
> given an Aurora for Christmas, seriously... well actually, it's about2
> inches long or so, and is painted up like a police cruiser... says'
> "HotWheels on the bottom" :-).  Interestingly enough, noticed that the
> Aurora police cruiser model has a driveshaft and rear-end... chuckle
> chuckle chuckle :-), liked it anyway.  Anyway, as I said, more details
> later, I really gotta go, using my parents computer to access my e-mail,
> and their fixing to go.
>
> Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
> Clayton Pierce,
> zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
> the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
> '84 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (350, 4bbl, TH375(built), 3.73:1, 75k
> miles)
>
> PS, it's snowing here... and I've heard it's pretty dry in like Chicago
> and Minnesota right now... dry and warm, well, it's snowing or at least
> has just got done snowing in East Tennessee.

------------------------------

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James Thingwold wrote:
>
> >If I coast a lot I can get 12!  Way to go!!
>
> I can hit 14 if I coast, 12 is my average tho too - thats the 230,000 '72
> model 350 thats getting tiiiiiiiiiiiiired.

The smogger 350 in the '78 is capable of 19 or 20 on the highway,
provided you stick it on 90-95km/h. On the other hand, when your right
foot is on the firewall, it'll get you where you need to go at
175km/h...and at 7mpg!

The best I've ever gotten out of the '85 is 23-24mpg with the 307 ("Y"
w/TH-2004r), and that's taking it relatively easy...no more than 100km/h
at any given time.

And to think that a little Geo Metro (65hp stock, 90 on nitrous) can get
around 60...I guess the line "there's no replacement for displacement'
can work both ways...

- --
S. Dave Ward  (mailto:ward@ptbo.igs.net)

'78 Delta 88 Royale (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 R.B.   (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4  (305 TBI)

(Ennismore, Ontario, CANADA)

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:05:16 -0500
From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Control Arms

At 03:34 PM 12/29/97 -0600, you wrote:
Bryce

        They are the same length. you can use tehm to beef up your Vista.

Jim Chermack


>It is my understanding that lower rear control arms are same for a A body
>cars from '64-'72, right?
>Anyone know if the length of these arms are same on Vista Cruiser,
>specifically '65?
>
>Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
>'66 Dynamic 88 B07 Apprehender
>'65 442 Post Coupe
>'65 Vista Cruiser
>'72 H/O Convertible Pace Car Replica
>Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com
>
>

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At 03:34 PM 12/29/97 -0600, you wrote:
Bryce

        They are the same length. you can use tehm to beef up your Vista.

Jim Chermack


>It is my understanding that lower rear control arms are same for a A body
>cars from '64-'72, right?
>Anyone know if the length of these arms are same on Vista Cruiser,
>specifically '65?
>
>Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
>'66 Dynamic 88 B07 Apprehender
>'65 442 Post Coupe
>'65 Vista Cruiser
>'72 H/O Convertible Pace Car Replica
>Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com
>
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:20:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Edwin Burger <erb22@yahoo.com>
Subject: removing chrome trim around windows

Does anyone know how to remove the chrome trim around the windshield
and rear window of '70 442?

Thanks,
Ed




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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:23:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Spkr cover actuators

From: Bryceman <bryceman@442.com>
Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com

Subject: servo motor_Forwarded

>From: Phillip Alan Lamb <phillil@redoak.heartland.net>
>Subject: servo motor ???
>
>I used to be on the Olds email list, but there was too much email for me to
>handle with some of the other lists I was on.  I was hoping you could put me
>in touch with a company or someone who could find some 12 volt servo motors.
>I want to put rear speakers in my 61 dynamic 88 without them being seen
>except for when I have the stereo powered up or I raise the speakers with
>servo motors from under the rear deck.  I had an old friend who did this on
>a 1957 Chevy, but can't find the motors to do this in my area.  I have
>talked to parts stores in my area and they just laugh at me when I ask the
>question.
>
>I have seen this done and looks very professional.  If you have any ideas,
>or can forward this to the list I would be very greatful.  Thank you in
>advance for your cooperation.
- ------------------------------
Wow, this sounds like the ideal application for the linear actuators I offered
up here a week or three ago. I was amazed that not one person even inquired,
what with your only cost being shipping.

They are 12V units, range from about 11" retracted to about 2" longer extended,
though that can be changed a bit. Originally power seat motors for cars now
being made. We test them, sometimes as simple as noise or RFI testing, then
they are ready to discard. Still perfectly functional. The stall at about 1000
[thousand] pounds linear force, drawing about 20A. In normal operation, a load
of about 200ª leads to a draw of around 4-6A.

I could imagine a zillion uses in modifying hot rod cars- trunk or door
actuators, speaker covers, Toro headlight covers, retractable spoiler?,
Hideaway whatevers, mechanical anti-theft locking devices, Throttle block for
when the car is lent out, etc. etc. etc.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
         >>> Please snip the excess lines from posts <<<

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Thanks,
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From: Bryceman <bryceman@442.com>
Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com

Subject: servo motor_Forwarded

>From: Phillip Alan Lamb <phillil@redoak.heartland.net>
>Subject: servo motor ???
>
>I used to be on the Olds email list, but there was too much email for me to
>handle with some of the other lists I was on.  I was hoping you could put me
>in touch with a company or someone who could find some 12 volt servo motors.
>I want to put rear speakers in my 61 dynamic 88 without them being seen
>except for when I have the stereo powered up or I raise the speakers with
>servo motors from under the rear deck.  I had an old friend who did this on
>a 1957 Chevy, but can't find the motors to do this in my area.  I have
>talked to parts stores in my area and they just laugh at me when I ask the
>question.
>
>I have seen this done and looks very professional.  If you have any ideas,
>or can forward this to the list I would be very greatful.  Thank you in
>advance for your cooperation.
- ------------------------------
Wow, this sounds like the ideal application for the linear actuators I offered
up here a week or three ago. I was amazed that not one person even inquired,
what with your only cost being shipping.

They are 12V units, range from about 11" retracted to about 2" longer extended,
though that can be changed a bit. Originally power seat motors for cars now
being made. We test them, sometimes as simple as noise or RFI testing, then
they are ready to discard. Still perfectly functional. The stall at about 1000
[thousand] pounds linear force, drawing about 20A. In normal operation, a load
of about 200ª leads to a draw of around 4-6A.

I could imagine a zillion uses in modifying hot rod cars- trunk or door
actuators, speaker covers, Toro headlight covers, retractable spoiler?,
Hideaway whatevers, mechanical anti-theft locking devices, Throttle block for
when the car is lent out, etc. etc. etc.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
         >>> Please snip the excess lines from posts <<<

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:37:09 -0500
From: "John Gill" <jgill@idmi.com>
Subject: Re: putting headers on the '70 442

Ed,

Sorry - hope I didn't scare you.  I just meant that you will need to remove
the starter in order to install the driver's side header, then reinstall
the starter.  Now that you mention it, I put a new (rebuilt) starter on the
car (from AutoZone) a few months prior to the header job and recently, I
began to notice that infamous delay when starting that usually indicates a
starter is about to die.  I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put
one of those heat shields on.

Think you'll put headers on your big block?  What kind?

John
jgill@idmi.com

- ----------
> From: Edwin Burger <erb22@yahoo.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: putting headers on the '70 442
> Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 8:47 PM
>
> Thanks!  What do you mean by "the starter will have to come down?"
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> ---John Gill <jgill@idmi.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > I was ready for new exhaust so I put a set of ceramic coated 1 7/8"
> > Hooker's on my 70 W30 last summer.  There is no escaping the fact
> that good
> > parts are expensive but the quality remains long after the price is
> > forgotten.  Hookers arguably fit better that any other make
> available - and
> > I believe it.  The only tight spot was where the brake proportioning
> valve
> > had to be moved about an inch down the frame.  I paid nearly $425
> for these
> > units but they will never rust like so many others do and getting
> headers
> > coated from the manufacturer is still cheaper than shipping your
> headers to
> > one of the companies that "coat" them for you.
> >
> > Nevertheless, I did the header job by myself and it took about 12-14
> solid
> > hours (a full weekend).  The starter will have to come down, the oil
> filter
> > and oil filter adapter, and a little rerouting of the automatic
> > transmission cooler lines will probably be necessary.  The Olds 455
> is so
> > wide that headers pipes will make relatively sharp turns right off
> of the
> > flanges.  This makes a few of the header bolt tricky to install in the
> > heads.  Bring some patience and small fingers along.
> >
> > One regret - use the new copper exhaust header-to-head gaskets from
> Mr.
> > Gasket (another $25).  These seal right the first time and are much
> less
> > likely blow out.  Don't forget to re-torque the gaskets after
> heating up
> > the motor once.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > John Gill
> > Cleveland, OH
> > jgill@idmi.com
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Edwin Burger <erb22@yahoo.com>
> > > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > > Subject: putting headers on the '70 442
> > > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 1:28 PM
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for you info on the lip for the hood!
> > >
> > > I'm putting headers on the 442, since it needs a new exhaust
> anyway.
> > > Does anyone here have any experience with headers for a 455, and
> more
> > > specifically, how easy it is to fit them into a 442?  I wanted
> headers
> > > that would make a lot of torque (tri-y headers?).  Does anyone
> know of
> > > a company that makes headers that wont cost me more than the rest of
> > > car?
> > >
> > > Thanks bunches,
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________
> > > DO YOU YAHOO!?
> > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
>
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Ed,

Sorry - hope I didn't scare you.  I just meant that you will need to remove
the starter in order to install the driver's side header, then reinstall
the starter.  Now that you mention it, I put a new (rebuilt) starter on the
car (from AutoZone) a few months prior to the header job and recently, I
began to notice that infamous delay when starting that usually indicates a
starter is about to die.  I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put
one of those heat shields on.

Think you'll put headers on your big block?  What kind?

John
jgill@idmi.com

- ----------
> From: Edwin Burger <erb22@yahoo.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: putting headers on the '70 442
> Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 8:47 PM
>
> Thanks!  What do you mean by "the starter will have to come down?"
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> ---John Gill <jgill@idmi.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > I was ready for new exhaust so I put a set of ceramic coated 1 7/8"
> > Hooker's on my 70 W30 last summer.  There is no escaping the fact
> that good
> > parts are expensive but the quality remains long after the price is
> > forgotten.  Hookers arguably fit better that any other make
> available - and
> > I believe it.  The only tight spot was where the brake proportioning
> valve
> > had to be moved about an inch down the frame.  I paid nearly $425
> for these
> > units but they will never rust like so many others do and getting
> headers
> > coated from the manufacturer is still cheaper than shipping your
> headers to
> > one of the companies that "coat" them for you.
> >
> > Nevertheless, I did the header job by myself and it took about 12-14
> solid
> > hours (a full weekend).  The starter will have to come down, the oil
> filter
> > and oil filter adapter, and a little rerouting of the automatic
> > transmission cooler lines will probably be necessary.  The Olds 455
> is so
> > wide that headers pipes will make relatively sharp turns right off
> of the
> > flanges.  This makes a few of the header bolt tricky to install in the
> > heads.  Bring some patience and small fingers along.
> >
> > One regret - use the new copper exhaust header-to-head gaskets from
> Mr.
> > Gasket (another $25).  These seal right the first time and are much
> less
> > likely blow out.  Don't forget to re-torque the gaskets after
> heating up
> > the motor once.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > John Gill
> > Cleveland, OH
> > jgill@idmi.com
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Edwin Burger <erb22@yahoo.com>
> > > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > > Subject: putting headers on the '70 442
> > > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 1:28 PM
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for you info on the lip for the hood!
> > >
> > > I'm putting headers on the 442, since it needs a new exhaust
> anyway.
> > > Does anyone here have any experience with headers for a 455, and
> more
> > > specifically, how easy it is to fit them into a 442?  I wanted
> headers
> > > that would make a lot of torque (tri-y headers?).  Does anyone
> know of
> > > a company that makes headers that wont cost me more than the rest of
> > > car?
> > >
> > > Thanks bunches,
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________
> > > DO YOU YAHOO!?
> > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
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>

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:16:22 EST
From: KarlAune <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Chicago Area Carb. Shops

This missive is to address a question that came up 'way back before I
unsubscribed in July.

Someone wished to know if there was a shop that specialized in the Q-jet
(rebuilding, etc) in the greater Chi-town area.

The answer that I now have is that there is a fella in Rockford (no, that is
not in the greater Chicago area, but bear with me here) who regularly
advertizes in the Illinois Valley Oldsmobile Chapter Newsletter; "Good Olds
Days". He runs his buisiness, "The Quad Shop" out of his home (or that is what
I understand from previous issues of Olds Days) and does buisiness by
appointment only. Here is a transcription of his advertisement:

[Icon of a Q-jet-to-manifold gasket]

_The Quad Shop_    (emphasis translated)

Rochester Quadrajet Carburetor
Stock rebuilding and power modification


Mon-Thurs by appointment only
5963 Linden Rd.
Rockford, IL  61109-3516

Jim McGowan
(815) 874-4884

And I imagine that I should add that, if this information is helpful, then you
should enroll in IVOC. If not, thenyou should still make an effort to come to
the Oldsmobile Nationals next year in Springfield, IL (somewhat downstate).

Karl Aune

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:31:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Don Foster <dfoster@uky.campus.mci.net>
Subject: unsubscribe



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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:52:12 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: 80' Cutlass Supreme

Robert F. Newbegin Jr. wrote:

Now, Bob, don't go and get sensitive on us, but I'd like to point a few
things out...

> The first number (3) is the 'Manufactuer's identity
> number.  This means nothing.

It absolutely does mean something.  Anything with a 3 in the vin or on
the body plate is an Oldsmobile!  And that means alot!  All GM divisions
have a different number, starting with Chevrolet and working up to
Cadillac.  If it were a 1 it would mean nothing :)

> The sixth digit (A???) is the last number of the model year
> (this makes no sense on your VIN.  Did you type it in correctly?)

This was true from about '65 or '66 up until '79 for GM.  Not all
manufacturers had their year code in the same place.  The government
stepped in in '80 and required all vins to have certain information in
certain places.  For '80, the letter A was assigned to the 80 model
year, and the letter increased every year after that, with the exception
of I,O,Q and U.  '98s are Ws.  Don't know what they're gonna do when
they run out of letters.

> (Olds never made a 350 with a 2-barrel.  Chev. did.)

I'm not even gonna take you back there, you got pounced on enough
already for that one...

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:47:58 EST
From: AARONLIFE <AARONLIFE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: hello

what did ya find out from super sports?

I found out today the insurance co is giving me problems, they want to send a
second (staff this time) adjuster out.  We're going to have a talk tomorrow
morning, I talked to my claims guy's team-member today.  Actually, my
girlfriend who worked in the insurance business for 8 yrs and can get K-Mart
to take back a Chevy Nova is going to talk to them, so hopefully I can get it
in the shop.  Amazing how difficult it is to get your car fixed when you're
not at fault!

found a trunk lid for the conv in case mine can't be straightened, though I
definitely need new chrome for it, so might as well replace the whole thing

aaron

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:54:46 EST
From: AARONLIFE <AARONLIFE@aol.com>
Subject: ??? Car doesn't start if the lights are on

We've stumbled upon something new,

The car will not start when the lights are on.  Turn the lights off, and it
starts right up.  It's acting like a kill switch.  Any ideas?

Also, why would getting rear-ended have stalled the car?

thanks,
aaron

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Robert F. Newbegin Jr. wrote:

Now, Bob, don't go and get sensitive on us, but I'd like to point a few
things out...

> The first number (3) is the 'Manufactuer's identity
> number.  This means nothing.

It absolutely does mean something.  Anything with a 3 in the vin or on
the body plate is an Oldsmobile!  And that means alot!  All GM divisions
have a different number, starting with Chevrolet and working up to
Cadillac.  If it were a 1 it would mean nothing :)

> The sixth digit (A???) is the last number of the model year
> (this makes no sense on your VIN.  Did you type it in correctly?)

This was true from about '65 or '66 up until '79 for GM.  Not all
manufacturers had their year code in the same place.  The government
stepped in in '80 and required all vins to have certain information in
certain places.  For '80, the letter A was assigned to the 80 model
year, and the letter increased every year after that, with the exception
of I,O,Q and U.  '98s are Ws.  Don't know what they're gonna do when
they run out of letters.

> (Olds never made a 350 with a 2-barrel.  Chev. did.)

I'm not even gonna take you back there, you got pounced on enough
already for that one...

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:55:20 EST
From: AARONLIFE <AARONLIFE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: hello

In a message dated 97-12-30 09:13:55 EST, you write:

<<    how did you find out about the car?  how long will you be in town?
  >>

Called a guy in some Atlanta advertiser about some Olds parts, and he
forwarded me to Super Sport about the olds 442 because I asked him if he knew
of any parts for my car...

Be in Georgia probably for the rest of the month I imagine, Have to get he car
fixed and wrap up the sale of my girlfriend's grandmother's house (she's
getting remarried and moving out! at 80! to her childhood sweetheart!)

Reminds me I have to call the insurance co before they close.

I'll be in touch,

Aaron

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what did ya find out from super sports?

I found out today the insurance co is giving me problems, they want to send a
second (staff this time) adjuster out.  We're going to have a talk tomorrow
morning, I talked to my claims guy's team-member today.  Actually, my
girlfriend who worked in the insurance business for 8 yrs and can get K-Mart
to take back a Chevy Nova is going to talk to them, so hopefully I can get it
in the shop.  Amazing how difficult it is to get your car fixed when you're
not at fault!

found a trunk lid for the conv in case mine can't be straightened, though I
definitely need new chrome for it, so might as well replace the whole thing

aaron

------------------------------

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We've stumbled upon something new,

The car will not start when the lights are on.  Turn the lights off, and it
starts right up.  It's acting like a kill switch.  Any ideas?

Also, why would getting rear-ended have stalled the car?

thanks,
aaron

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 20:04:42 CST
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In a message dated 97-12-30 09:13:55 EST, you write:

<<    how did you find out about the car?  how long will you be in town?
  >>

Called a guy in some Atlanta advertiser about some Olds parts, and he
forwarded me to Super Sport about the olds 442 because I asked him if he knew
of any parts for my car...

Be in Georgia probably for the rest of the month I imagine, Have to get he car
fixed and wrap up the sale of my girlfriend's grandmother's house (she's
getting remarried and moving out! at 80! to her childhood sweetheart!)

Reminds me I have to call the insurance co before they close.

I'll be in touch,

Aaron

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:16:36 EST
From: COUPE KING <COUPEKING@aol.com>
Subject: 425 pistons into 400 'E' block?

Saw an ad for some 425ci pistons for sale. These are ~4.125 bore. Can My '67
400ci 'E' block be safely bored to accept these pistons?

peter
CoupeKing@aol.com
LA Cal

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:25:20 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: engine codes

Kathy Gerschutz wrote:
>
> I would like in the future to put in a 403 sb.  When looking for these I
should look for a "K" as the 5th digit right?

That's right.

> But on my VIN "K" is also the fifth digit, and it has the 231.  I
> think all g-body calais's have "K47" as the fifth, sixth, and seventh digit.

That's right, too.

> My VIN is: 2G3AK47A6C2389539.  This does not make sense to me, could someone
please clear this up.  Thanks. > > Joe

Joe,

The 403s were used from '77 to '79 when GM was using a 13 digit vin
system.  In 1981 the vin system was changed to 17 digits and the
information was moved around.  The engine code was moved to the 8th
position.  In your case its an A, which happens to be the 231 six.  It
just happens to be a coincidence that you're looking for a K engine and
you have a K model (not a K car, as that would be a Chrysler!).

Paul
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Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Saw an ad for some 425ci pistons for sale. These are ~4.125 bore. Can My '67
400ci 'E' block be safely bored to accept these pistons?

peter
CoupeKing@aol.com
LA Cal

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