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oldsmobile-digest    Wednesday, December 24 1997    Volume 01 : Number 1026



Re: Happy Holidays
Re: MI swap meet
Re: MI swap meet
Fountain of Questions...
Re: White Window Cranks
UNSUBSCRIBE OLDSMOBILE
Re: MI swap meet
Re: Simple Pleasures
Re: Power Brake booster help
Re: 69 442
64 CUTLASS REAR QUARTER
re:exhaust manilolds, 69 axle
Re: possible exhaust manifold setup
Re: 65 370hp 425
Re: Re[2]: UNBOUNCE: '70 442 H*lp
Re: 1970 Trunk Mat
Re: MI swap meet
Re: White Window Cranks
Re: '83 Cutlass Supreme, 305CC
Re: Happy Holidays
Re: MI swap meet
Re: '71 W-30 on Speedvision!!!
This mo.'s JWO
Removal
Re: MI swap meet
Re: Wheatherstripping
Suspension
81' Cutlass Supreme
post trimming
DIY scoops
Re: Happy Holidays
Generator to Alternator Conversion
Re: '83 Cutlass Supreme, 305CC
Happy Holidays
Season's Greetings...
[none]
Re: Garage Heating?.....   Part 2
Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme
Re: 1992 Achieva
Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme
Re: 1992 Achieva
Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme
Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme
Thank you for your help
Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme
seasons greetings
Re: White Window Cranks
Re: MI swap meet
Re: MI swap meet
Re: Generator to Alternator Conversion
Re: '92 Achieva
Happy Holidays
Re: MI swap meet
Re: Rear coil springs, '78 Delta
TH 350 Kick Down
Valve seals and Spring Compressor 350 CID
94 GM mini van wiper control module intermittant failures info
Buick 455 transplant (parts)
Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:46:49 -0500
From: Don Sugarman <sugarman@berkshire.net>
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays

> Merry Christmas       Happy New Year        Happy Hanukka
> Happy Kwansa
>
> Hope I didn't leave anyone out.
>

Happy Festivus (or is it Merry Festivus) *

Don Sugarman


> Bob Handren


* Reference Seinfeld Christmas episode.

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 18:03:24 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

Mick,

 Your wheel is no longer any good. How much you want for it. ??

Kidding......  but serious about trying to find a three spoke 69 sport
wheel ...  know of any available. color irrelevent...

I think I have a diagram of wheel assembly. Do you have access to fax
machine and if so give me the number and if I can find it tonight I can
send to you tomorrow.

Rgds,
R.Thomas
69 442

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:11:00 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

Mike,

I believe that you are missing another plastic tube that twists into the 1st
like a tail lamp bulb.  Also included is a spring to hold the contacts in
place.  Most GM steering wheels appear to be the same in these respects.
You might be able to rob one from another GM car of that era.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible



>> I'll take dibbs on first 69 sport steering wheel though.
>>P.S. -have any ideas where one available at reasonable $$
>>         would consider trade of 70 sport wheel & cash.
>
>If you find one, please find out how the horn contact pin is held in
>the hole in the wheel, how it is wired in etc.
>I can honk my horn by dropping the pin in the hole, (small end first),
>and then grounding it to the side of the hole. I can not figure out
>how to keep it there, stop it from grounding by leaning over, or how
>to wire it to the horn contacts in the three spokes.
>Would greatly appreciate any advice anyone can give.
>My time in high school Electrical Shop was usually spent cutting out
>paper dolls at the back of the room, as punishment  for not learning
>"Ohm's Law', or for deliberately trying to electricute fellow
>students.
>
>Mick Gillespie

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 18:39:45 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Fountain of Questions...

At SOME point in time, I will run outta questions...  Or you'll quit
answering...  <G>

How well do 225/60R14's fit in the 80s Cutli?
Does the handling increase?

WHAT are the STOCK size tires (Mine has 195/75R14), and is there an
alternate size???  My old Buick could take 205/75R15s, or 215/75R15s and
I heard either way no effect on the speedo, is this the same for the
Cutli?

Is anyone tired of me asking questions????
- --
                 Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__,      1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:43:28 -0700
From: "Robert J. Lavey" <rjlavey@rmci.net>
Subject: Re: White Window Cranks

At 06:00 PM 12/23/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Robert J. Lavey wrote:
>> Does anyone have some white window cranks for a '68 Cutlass/442 that they'd
>> like to part with?  I've discovered that I am don't have enough to finish
>> my interior.
>
>Did they actually make these with white knobs? I've never seen them. You
>don't mean clear, do you?

Yes, they're actually white.  They seemed to make them in a ton of colors
(in '68 anyhow).

Bob
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 Robert J. Lavey                         mailto://rjlavey@rmci.net
 13243 W. Dahlia Dr.                     Home:  (208) 939-5418
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 20:32:38 EST
From: Rowley3258 <Rowley3258@aol.com>
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE OLDSMOBILE

ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET OFF THIS MAILING LIST?

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 20:57:46 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

- -----Original Message-----
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, December 23, 1997 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

> Your wheel is no longer any good. How much you want for it. ??
>
>Kidding......  but serious about trying to find a three spoke 69
sport
>wheel ...  know of any available. color irrelevent...
>
>I think I have a diagram of wheel assembly. Do you have access to fax
>machine and if so give me the number and if I can find it tonight I
can
>send to you tomorrow.
also
I believe that you are missing another plastic tube that twists into
the 1st
>like a tail lamp bulb.  Also included is a spring to hold the
contacts in
>place.

Thanks to both of you for the help. Today I figured out how to hook
this thing up using a test light. All I have to do now is find the
plastic piece as Bill suggests (or fabricate something temporarily to
hold the pin away from the side of the hole).
At least I know how to wire it up now.
The 69 sport wheel seems to be rare. I saw one at the swap meet at
Lansing and the guy wanted an arm and a leg for it. I'll keep my eyes
open for you though. No, I don't want to part with mine. Sorry! :-)

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 20:24:22 -0500
From: "W-MACHINES" <W-MACHINES@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Simple Pleasures

> From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Simple Pleasures
> Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 9:14 AM

> BTW, the old 563's were gummed up with *some* kind of blackish gooey
stuff;
> electrical cleaner did very little to it, but windex washed it all away.
> This was *all over* the dash-mounted map light; what could it have been?

> Bob Barry       MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu

Bob, I believe the "gunk" is an non conductive sealer that the factory uses
to seal out moisture and air.  It works pretty well; I've taken some old
bulbs out of some sockets that were not too good on the outside, but on the
inside were well protected by the "gunk".

Kurt    W-MACHINES@prodigy.net
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 21:15:40 EST
From: Mr57olds <Mr57olds@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Power Brake booster help

the brake fluid goes in the tube you remove the bent rod out of.   there
should be a line on the rod to indicate full.  use a small funnel to fill and
go slow.  it's a fun place to get at under steering column.  wait for fluid to
run down pipe to check.
most likely the dwell angle on both  '55  324 engine and '57 371 is 30
degrees.

mr57olds

54 olds
57 olds
64 442 conv working on

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 21:23:24 EST
From: AARONLIFE <AARONLIFE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 69 442

In a message dated 97-12-23 03:04:49 EST, you write:

<< is it from a 70-72?  Could
 make a difference.  >>

I think it's from a 70-72, the guy who owned back then worked in a dealership.
It's a long console, from under the dash, with a glove box between the seats.

Aaron

69 442 Conv (squished)

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 21:33:27 EST
From: Mr57olds <Mr57olds@aol.com>
Subject: 64 CUTLASS REAR QUARTER

i am in the process of restoring a '64 cutlass converible.  it is in need of
trunk floor and bottom of floor in passenger area.  several places have those
such as year one and paddock.  has anyone done business with paddock?   also
the front half of pass side rear quarter has been replaced and patched up.
looks like collision damage a long time ago.  it needs cut out and started
over to make door and top bracket fit correctly.  i would really like to find
a rear quarter skin from door back on pass side.  thanks for any assistance.

mr57olds

54 olds 88 orig
57 olds S-88 restored
64 442 conv working on
98 intrigue  wife driving

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 18:53:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Karamanos <jalkara@whidbey.net>
Subject: re:exhaust manilolds, 69 axle

i'm sure in a sanderson ad? catalog? i saw that they had small block
manifolds available.  i'm sure that they are right up there price wise,
$300-500, and they might not fit right, made for a street rod probally.

dutchman motorsports
portland, or.
should be able to fix you up with a better than stock axle, just step
right up to the till.  $150? maybe

47rocket98
like they say "the diffrence between men and boys is the price of their
toys"

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:04:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: possible exhaust manifold setup

>I have noticed several posts regarding exhaust manifolds for small block
>Oldsmobiles. We went looking for some help in this area in 1994 when we were
>racing our 71 Cutlass 'S' in the Street Stock division at our local asphalt
>short tracks. We eventually found that we could use the passenger side
>manifold off of a late 70's Toronado (probably with a 403, but I bet they're
>all the same in those years) on our car.

I looked at the manifold on a '78 Toro with the 403, and it *looked* like it
might work. It also looked nearly identical to the '66-'70 RH Toro manifold,
which I have several extras of, but when I compared that manifold to the
regular dual-outlet small-block manifold, it looked like it pointed back and
outward too much to work in my '78 Electra (I think it would be aimed at the
heater box). I mentioned this possibility on the list before, but I'm glad
to see that someone actually tried it and got it to work!

>It doesn't have a crossover and points back at the same angle as the firewall
>does down there. It does have a kink in it that goes over the oil filter
>adapter, but it seemed better than the usual stock small-block unit.

Again, I'm wondering if the small-block toro manifolds were significantly
different from the big-block manifolds (which are rather small in diameter
as it is).

>Our rules said we had to use stock exhaust manifolds, just didn't say that
>they had to come on the particular car we raced. Oh well..........

Clever, clever... :)

>I don't know about if any other years or models can use this setup or not.

I'll have to try it in my C-body; thanks for the leads!
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:04:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: 65 370hp 425

>     I have found a complete drivetrain out of a 65 jetstar or something
>     like that. The owner has put me in a difficult position of making him
>     an offer. I want this engine and I want it cheap.What do the listers
>     in the know think about this.

If it was from a Jetstar I, then it would be the same motor as the Starfire
engine. I suspect it might be a 45' block, which would limit your cam
choices. The price would depend most upon the condition of the engine
itself; treat it like any standard-issue 425, with its associated cam
limitation; probably $100(core)-$600(low miles or rebuilt, and can hear
run), depending on its condition.

That was the hottest engine available that year, though, and the Jetstar I
was a limited-edition "budget" performance sister to the full-tilt Starfire.
I'd love a '65 Jetstar I myself; is the car itself already gone? You might
want to grab some of the Jetstar I-specific items, like the emblems and
grilles on the front fenders.

Just hope it isn't a Jetstar 88, whose 330 this guy has mistaken for a 425...
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:04:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: UNBOUNCE: '70 442 H*lp

>>>      ...If you get one off of a non-442, you simply need to
>>>      drill out the holes.
>>
>>That makes things easier.... there was no logo of any sort on the
>>Cutlasses?
>>
>>     Nope.  Only on the 442s that year.
>
>The tongue on my '70 W-31 has the "S" metal logo on it, presumably
>representing the Cutlass "S" model.  I am guessing that Supremes have their
>own logo as well.

The Supremes came with a rocket emblem in that location (I never checked its
mounting configuration, though); I don't know what the F-85/Cutlass/Vista
Cruisers came with in that spot. Who has one of those and will look on the
front of their car for us? :)

Oh, wait; just looked at the shop manual sitting right next to me, and they
show the rocket emblem for everything *but* the "S" and "442" models. In
addition, it looks like the "442" emblem has a unique mounting system, with
two pins for each number as a separate casting.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:04:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: 1970 Trunk Mat

>Does anyone have a trunk mat for a 1970 Cutlass/442 that is in good shape and
>would be willing to part with it? I am pretty sure it's the black and aqua
>mat. Does anybody know of a place that makes reproductions of the original
>trunk mat.

Do you mean the green/gray material that was used as a trunk lining, or the
accessory rubber mat? Either way, Fusick's lists them (as do other places):
$34.50 for the green/gray material mat, or $99.50 for the rubber accessory mat.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:44:00 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, M&D Gillespie wrote:
> Thanks to both of you for the help. Today I figured out how to hook
> this thing up using a test light. All I have to do now is find the
> plastic piece as Bill suggests (or fabricate something temporarily to
> hold the pin away from the side of the hole).

If many years were similar, it might be the way my '64 Skylark was set
up: the contact from the horn button fit into a sleeve that went into a
hole in the wheel hub. The sleeve mated with a spring that came up from
the steering column assembly and was always hot. When you pressed the
button it closed the circuit and the horn worked. I managed to destroy
the little sleeve and had a devil of a time figuring out how to make it
work without shorting out and setting the horn off unexpectedly. Finally
I used a short piece of plastic soda straw (the milkshake size) to
substitute for the sleeve. It fitted into the hole really well and I was
able to make the connection with the spring.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:20:08 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: White Window Cranks

Greg,

My '68's are color coded.  I have blue ones that I am changing to white.
Lucky me in that I only have to do the vent windows as my car is equipped
w/power windows.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible



>
>Did they actually make these with white knobs? I've never seen them. You
>don't mean clear, do you? I know those are available as a "H*LP" part. I
>suppose GM might have made white ones since I've seen them in other
>colors...
>
>Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:16:14 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: '83 Cutlass Supreme, 305CC

Some cars aren't worth it free!

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


>
>I have a 1983 Cutlass that has a few problems...needs new brakes...power
>steering pump...gear box should be replaced...gas tank leaks...body
>rust...the rear end occansionally bangs when driving.
>
>     Uh, does this car answer to the name of "Lucky"?  ;-)
>
>     Joe Padavano
>     padavano.joe@orbital.com

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 17:25:18 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays

Of course, Merry Christmas to all Christians.  Best of all is His Holiness
Jesus' promise of peace on earth, good will to all men for each of us.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible



>> Merry Christmas       Happy New Year        Happy Hanukka
>> Happy Kwansa
>>
>> Hope I didn't leave anyone out.
>>
>
>Happy Festivus (or is it Merry Festivus) *
>
>Don Sugarman
>
>
>> Bob Handren
>
>
>* Reference Seinfeld Christmas episode.
>

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:57:55 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

Mick
 Glad to hear you got it figured out.
I also was in Lansing and although wanting to upgrade my
442 with an original wheel -- not about to bend over for $250 +
as these guys wanted.

70 wheel I have on now is acutally more comfortable to drive but
I would still swap for originality sake. Plus I think they just plan look
cool.

Appreciate your keeping look out for me.

Happy holidays

Rob Thomas
69 442

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:07:21 EST
From: RPTW32 <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: '71 W-30 on Speedvision!!!

Yes I know of a copy of this program that was taped by a
friend.

Pretty impressed commentator wasn't he.

Rob Thomas
69 442

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:16:06 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: This mo.'s JWO

The latest JWO is out...
Nice article on GM's web presence, and coming next month is a feature of:

Lisa Masden's web site!

[their "speeling", Lisa!]

- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
         >>> Please snip the excess lines from posts <<<

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:25:09 -0600
From: "gblanchard" <sierra@autobahn.mb.ca>
Subject: Removal

Would you please removed me from you email list.  My server is being
overloaded.  I have received all the information required for my
automobile.

Thank you kindly.!


:)

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:30:01 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, December 23, 1997 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: MI swap meet


.>I managed to destroy
>the little sleeve and had a devil of a time figuring out how to make
it
>work without shorting out and setting the horn off unexpectedly.
Finally
>I used a short piece of plastic soda straw (the milkshake size) to
>substitute for the sleeve. It fitted into the hole really well and I
was
>able to make the connection with the spring.


Greg,
That's exactly what I need!! Thanks for the great idea. Now, how do I
talk my wife into going for a milkshake on Christmas Eve? Hmmm...

Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass S convertible
OCAª 29770
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:43:45 EST
From: DrkSole <DrkSole@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Wheatherstripping

>I wouldn't say you're bothering anybody!  I had similar experiences
>installing new weatherstrip on both my '64 and '75 Olds's.

Thanks.. I think it is begining to work.

DrkSole
73 Cutlass Supreme
67 Delta 88 Custom

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:59:55 -0800
From: Boogah <Boogah@en.com>
Subject: Suspension

Need some advice from anyone who has swapped the stock springs from a 72
Cutlass Supreme 350 with the same year springs for the 455? Also, do the
boxed rear control arms make a significant difference in the handling?
The reason I ask is that I am planning on converting my stock suspension
to the 442 package. Also any experiences with PST graphite impregnated
bushings are welcomed!
Thanks

Any advice or experiences appreciated
Happy motoring

Joe
72 Cutlass Supreme
62112 original miles

boogah@en.com

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 00:10:31 EST
From: J8342 <J8342@aol.com>
Subject: 81' Cutlass Supreme

I'm new to this group and this is my first try, so sorry if I screw up :)

        I just bought my first car today!  I'm 16 and after seriuosly looking
for the last 4 months I decided on a 1981 Olds Cutlass Supreme.  I'll be
honest my first choice was a Monte Carlo but here (Wisconsin) they are in very
high demand, mostly the SS, but even the regular Monte's go very quickly and
have a fair price tag.  So I bought the car for $1500 on a scale of 1-10 with
1 being low, it's probably a 6 at the highest.  Do you think that is a fair
price or is it to high?  It has a real solid body and like 4 small rust spots.
It runs real nice, with a rebuilt 350 but it's only a 2bbl.  When I take
pictures I'll get them on the compter so you guys can check it out.  I'm
probably going to have a lot of questions, because i'm not exaclty greatly
mechanically gifted :(

        So first of all if you have 81 cutlass parts e-mail me, because I
might need to buy some.  Lastly for today, what should I do about the ceiling
liner falling off?  The last owner stapled it back up really bad, with like
100 staples!   Should I just glue it back on?
       Also I think I could use a rear quarter panel because mine is rusted
good.
If you have 1 that is rust free let me know what you want for it.

Thanks,
Josh

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 00:18:37 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: post trimming

Lately there have been a lot of posts with garbage at the end, like mailer
encoding information. Could you guys check your posts and see if extra stuff
is being added? Straight text (ascii), in your mailer setup, works best I
believe. Also try to trim some of the message you are referring to. Thanks!
David Brown
==================
Yeah! Maybe just coincidence, but the digest in which this appears was chock
full of 'noise'. Including a nameless someone replying to Chermack's ad with a
1-line inquiry... and then quoting Chermack's entire list of goodies for sale.
Almost a new record for noise/signal ratio!
  Some folks seem to have mailers that add onto the end the exact same text
only with lots of control characters tossed in as well. Then there's the
occasional picture or something which comes thru as 1000 lines of noise.
  btw, Greg, every post that you send along as "unbounced" appears first in the
digest, as though it never bounced at all.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
         >>> Please snip the excess lines from posts <<<

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 00:22:57 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: DIY scoops

I've always wanted to try fabricating them from cardboard or balsa wood
coated with some fiberglass mat.  It's been done to build custom consoles,
I've read about it in Hot Rod.  Work with cardboard 'till you get a shape
you like and then cover it with fiberglass.  Since the balsa wood or
cardboard would end up on the inside of the scoop, I'd coat it with some
fiberglass resin to seal it so water wouldn't warp it or otherwise goop it
up.
Greg Pruett
==================
I like the idea of the mid-70's Big Car around-the-battery ducts, though the
shape is rather off. I did make a set of scoops for my '68 a few years ago,
none were available anywhere. Instead of 'glassing over cardboard, I sculpetd
foam to the shape that looked about right, then greased & glassed right on
that. Shape was kinda funky, hard to make it pretty. Ugly even by my admittedly
low standards. Functioned very well though. Still have them. If they are
repro'd for a scant $150... I'd go that route. I obtained an NOS set of '69
scoops some time back, sold them off to finance my habit.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
         >>> Please snip the excess lines from posts <<<

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 22:27:49 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays

> Happy Festivus (or is it Merry Festivus) *

As long as they arent ~fo*d festivas!~

               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
        Sidney Montana

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 21:44:45 -0800
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: Generator to Alternator Conversion

It's time to convert the old generator to a one wire alternator.
I would like to use the existing wires, but I am not sure what each wire
goes to.  There are three wire coming off of the alternator.
My question is...
What wire do I hook the damn thing up to?
Thanks
Brad

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 00:51:26 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: '83 Cutlass Supreme, 305CC

Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

> Some cars aren't worth it free!

hahahaha...
- --
                 Jerry Christopher
               HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 01:18:39 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas to all.  Since my Oldsmobiles have been good this past
year, I have have promised them at least two of them will be moving
under their own power in 1998.  Heck, I might even get one finished!

Thanks to all for their assistance, patience and information.
Peace to all, and Happy Holidays.......

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 97 08:42:52 -0400
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Season's Greetings...

To all my good Oldsmobile friends,

A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

I am sure that the 98' season holds for us all a lot of fun and enjoyment
in our favorite hobby. I am sure we will see lots of tweaks and changes
to our cars over the Winter, Lord knows you will see plenty in my 72'. On
the personal changes front, my wife and I have made the plunge to go into
business, we bought into a distributorship and that will take up some of
our precious time. I have also decided to finish up my degree's so I am
going to be one busy guy since I am not ready to give up my full-time
job. 1998 should also see the construction of the "Oldsmobuilding", a
structure of near monumental dimensions (to me) to house and work on my
Olds stuff, we are figuring a minimum of 60' X 40' and a story and a
half. I had figured on Spring to start construction but now we are
looking at fall since some of that needed money went toward Capital
Equipment for the business.

Warmest Regards and hoping you get lots of good Olds stuff from Santa!
Mike Hall


Michael R. Hall: OCA ª17903                    Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Ever-Growing Oldsmobile Stable:
1971 Oldsmobile 442
1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S
1987 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Custom Cruiser
1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 08:53:23 +0000
From: ejhufnagel@juno.com (Edward J. Hufnagel)
Subject: [none]


                  Merry Christmas to all . Keep between the ditches.

     E.J.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 09:26:09 -0500 (EST)
From: ar713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zuccaro)
Subject: Re: Garage Heating?.....   Part 2

Reply to message from BIGJERMES@aol.com of Wed, 17 Dec
>
>hey, what about running a natural gas line to the garage, then connecting it
>to a gas furnace/stove?  we have one and i was wondering.....  hmmm..  seems
>perfect.
>

We did that.  Hooked a Reznor up to it.  Heats a 32 x 40 garage.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 08:38:20 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme

Josh,

These Cutlass's are very nice cars.  I believe that you will enjoy such a
car.

Living in Alabama, my only comment on rust is that we almost never see much.
If it is there, the car is ignored.  Price is also a regional thing. $1500
buys a rather good worn car here of almost any type in the years you're
talkling about.

The headliner is repairable by taking the cardboard liner down & replacing
the fabric.  There is a thin layer of foam attached to the fabric & that has
deteriorated.  Upholstery shops repair these regularly & charge about $75
around here.

Merry Christmas
Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible

- -

>I'm new to this group and this is my first try, so sorry if I screw up :)
>
>        I just bought my first car today!  I'm 16 and after seriuosly
looking
>for the last 4 months I decided on a 1981 Olds Cutlass Supreme

So I bought the car for $1500 on a scale of 1-10 with
>1 being low, it's probably a 6 at the highest.  Do you think that is a fair
>price or is it to high?  It has a real solid body and like 4 small rust
spots.
>It runs real nice, with a rebuilt 350 but it's only a 2bbl

  Lastly for today, what should I do about the ceiling
>liner falling off?  The last owner stapled it back up really bad, with like
>100 staples!   Should I just glue it back on?
>       Also I think I could use a rear quarter panel because mine is rusted
>good.
>If you have 1 that is rust free let me know what you want for it.
>
>Thanks,
>Josh
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 09:57:50 -0500 (EST)
From: ar713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zuccaro)
Subject: Re: 1992 Achieva

Didn't see this one come through, so here goes again..

Anyone have an electrical schematic for a '92 Achieva?
The oil/check gauges light is still staying on most of
the time.  Changing the oil sensor made no difference.
Heard there are two sensors.  Since the better half is
an industrial electrician, the schematics will help!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 10:04:31 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme

Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

> The headliner is repairable by taking the cardboard liner down & replacing
> the fabric.  There is a thin layer of foam attached to the fabric & that has
> deteriorated.  Upholstery shops repair these regularly & charge about $75
> around here.

How does it come out?  And where can someone get the fabric???

Oops, I think I am gonna make a New Years Resolution this year...  I
plan not to ask as many questions....
- --
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 10:08:48 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: 1992 Achieva

Linda Zuccaro wrote:

> Anyone have an electrical schematic for a '92 Achieva?
> The oil/check gauges light is still staying on most of
> the time.  Changing the oil sensor made no difference.
> Heard there are two sensors.  Since the better half is
> an industrial electrician, the schematics will help!

Does anyone know if the schemics for the the 92 Achevia will be the same
in the 97 Achieva?  If so, I can copy the Service Manual schematics page
and send it to ya....

Otherwise, does the Chiltons or Haynes Manuals have them??
- --
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 09:27:03 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme

Jerry,

Merry Christmas!

The headliner is held in by the trim around the windows & the dome light.
All that is removed & then the healiner is eased out the doorway.  It is a
little tedious to get this all done.  It is even more tedious to get
everything back in than out.  Upholstery shops do it all the time & you
might want them to do it as that is where you get the material for the new
covering.

The old material is all taken off, the cardboard scraped of all residue,
glue is applied, & the new material is laid on & trimmed.  One can get all
textures & colors of this material.

I woudn't try to get a replacement form a junque yarde as they are all
deteriorated too.  The heat from the sun does the foam in between the
hedliner & the cardboard & then releases the material.  It is hoped that the
newer materials are more restistant to this deterioiration.

Dont' worry about the questions.  I have a number & I expect to ask many
more in 1998 as I get more time to work on those cars of mine.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible



>Lloyd W. Culp wrote:
>
>> The headliner is repairable by taking the cardboard liner down &
replacing
>> the fabric
>
>How does it come out?  And where can someone get the fabric???
>
>Oops, I think I am gonna make a New Years Resolution this year...  I
>plan not to ask as many questions....
>--
>- Jerry Christopher

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:14:39 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme

Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

> The headliner is held in by the trim around the windows & the dome light.
> All that is removed & then the healiner is eased out the doorway.  It is a
> little tedious to get this all done.  It is even more tedious to get
> everything back in than out.  Upholstery shops do it all the time & you
> might want them to do it as that is where you get the material for the new
> covering.

No prob, I was just wondering it maybe I can save a couple bucks and
take the headliner down to them on it's own and have them fix it, and I
can throw it back in, maybe saving a few dollars....

> Dont' worry about the questions.  I have a number & I expect to ask many
> more in 1998 as I get more time to work on those cars of mine.

Hahahah... Eventually I am run outta questions...  There's only so much
one can know about the 80's Cutlasses...  We'll keep trying though
- --
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:21:38 +0000
From: tcjmiami@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Thank you for your help

I just want to thank you for your answer to my questions about
converting to dual exhaust on my 70 cutlass.

I found a local exhaust shop COLE MUFFLER IN NORTH MIAMI and they did
a beautiful job. The custom pipes were Identical to original and the
hangers were all cosmetically original as well. John even fitted my
442 trumpets on the end.

BTW my old muffler was bulged like a balloon from a back fire and now
the car is noticeably improved without the back pressure.

Next project new suspension next month.

Thanks again for the advise.
Tom Johnson
1970 Cutlass S Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 08:27:35 -0800
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme

J8342 wrote:

> I'm new to this group and this is my first try, so sorry if I screw up :)

Welcome!

>         I just bought my first car today!  I'm 16 and after seriuosly looking
> for the last 4 months I decided on a 1981 Olds Cutlass Supreme.  I'll be

An excellent choice.  Of course, nobody here is the least bit biased in their
choice of car brands :-)

> have a fair price tag.  So I bought the car for $1500 on a scale of 1-10 with
> 1 being low, it's probably a 6 at the highest.  Do you think that is a fair

Sounds fair.  Most cars of that type are selling for about $1500-$2000 here in
WA State.  I got $2200 for my '79 Cutlass with a fresh rebuilt 260, my dad only
got $2500 for his '87 Monte (original owner, excellent shape, he really pampers
his cars).  On the other end of the spectrum, I got my '78 Cutlass for $300.
Runs like a top, but the body is very rusty (the frame is NOT rusted, I blame
that on Ziebart, their plugs are all over the car), and the tranny is marginal
(not worth fixing the TH200, I'm gonna run it into the ground then pick up a
TH350 at the Pull-Your-Part for $75).

> It runs real nice, with a rebuilt 350 but it's only a 2bbl.  When I take

Please say it's a 350 Olds?  That's not the original engine.  81's only V8
options were the diesel or the 307 V8 with 4bbl.  I think some Canadian
(non-computer) versions may have gotten a Chevy 305 with 4bbl though.

> probably going to have a lot of questions, because i'm not exaclty greatly
> mechanically gifted :(

That's what the list is here for!  We were all in your shoes at one time or
another.

> might need to buy some.  Lastly for today, what should I do about the ceiling
> liner falling off?  The last owner stapled it back up really bad, with like
> 100 staples!   Should I just glue it back on?

Hahaha!  Sounds like my sisters Citation, it's held in by push-pins.  You can
try spray gluing it back on, but it probably won't be a permanent fix.  To fix
it right you need to take it out of the car.  There are instructions on how to
do this on the turbo Regal web site (their G-body cars suffer from it too) 
under
the Technical Articles, Interior/Body/Gauges section at
http://ni.umd.edu/www/gnttype.

- --
Tom Lentz, tlentz@ior.com                        '84 Hurst/Olds ª2118
http://www.ior.com/~tlentz                       '78 Cutlass Supreme
Network Admin, CPM Corp, Spokane, WA.            '78 Chev 1/2ton (Olds 350)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:28:34 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: seasons greetings

Rocketters,
Whether you celebrate the Festival of Lights, the birth of a Savior, give
thanks for the fruit of the earth, or gather around with family and friends
and celebrate life it's self, let us all return next year safe and sound.

Let us also thank our host for putting up with our sometimes endless
chatter.

Peace
The General

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 08:00:10 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: White Window Cranks

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
>
> Did they actually make these with white knobs? I've never seen them. You
> don't mean clear, do you? I know those are available as a "H*LP" part. I

Oh yes they did come in white.  I know I have white in my 68 442.  Very
hard to find replacements.

Chris Sparks

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 08:04:44 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

M&D Gillespie wrote:
>
> The 69 sport wheel seems to be rare. I saw one at the swap meet at
> Lansing and the guy wanted an arm and a leg for it. I'll keep my eyes
> open for you though. No, I don't want to part with mine. Sorry! :-)

Are the 68 sport wheel the same as the 69 sport wheel?

Chris Sparks

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:10:34 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

- -----Original Message-----
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1997 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: MI swap meet


>Are the 68 sport wheel the same as the 69 sport wheel?
>
>Chris Sparks

No, I'm pretty sure that the 69 was only used for that one year.

Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass S convertible
OCAª 29770
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 00:50:16 -0500
From: Bob Valentine <ravalent@liii.com>
Subject: Re: Generator to Alternator Conversion

At 09:44 PM 12/23/97 -0800, you wrote:
>It's time to convert the old generator to a one wire alternator.

   I assume (hope?) you mean externally regulated alternator to
internally regulated alternator.

>I would like to use the existing wires, but I am not sure what each wire
>goes to.  There are three wire coming off of the alternator.

>What wire do I hook the damn thing up to?

I got this written up somewhere on a website...

Email me privately if you can't find it.

- --> Bob

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 13:28:06 -0500
From: Jeff Verkleeren <jev114@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: '92 Achieva

go to the autoparts and get a chilton for your car it has teh electrical
schematic you are looking for. there is only 1 sensor relating to oil
pressure, good luck

AEROTECH


At 12:09 PM 12/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone have the electrical schematics for this car or know where
>to find them?  Still having problems with the oil light/check
>gauges light being on.  Sensor change made no difference.
>
>Are there two oil sensors?
>
>The door that won't unlock seems to be the motor [crosses fingers].
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 14:49:18 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Happy Holidays

To all at the List,

I know I am not the most active member here by far, but I just want to wish
all of the the Happiest of Holidays and hope that you all enjoy the New Year.
Just think...As the Summer months approach we can all pull out our rides and
once again enjoy them to the fullest!
- --
Daniel R. Gerow
WSHL-FM 91.3
General Manager
Stonehill College Radio
- -----------------------
http://www.stonehill.edu
http://www.stonehill.edu/wshl
http://www2.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
- ---------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 15:25:45 -0500
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: Re: MI swap meet

Right on.  The 69 sports wheel is unique to 69 only and is quite
different than the 68 wheel.  There are hard to come by.  I looked two
years before I found mine.  Wayne

M&D Gillespie wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1997 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: MI swap meet
>
> >Are the 68 sport wheel the same as the 69 sport wheel?
> >
> >Chris Sparks
>
> No, I'm pretty sure that the 69 was only used for that one year.
>
> Mick Gillespie
> 69 Cutlass S convertible
> OCAª 29770
> mgillespie@sprynet.com
> http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:58:39 -0700
From: Dan Lacey <lacey@dsea.com>
Subject: Re: Rear coil springs, '78 Delta

>The rear of my '78 Delta is sagging kind of noticably, so I want to
>replace the original rear springs.  But I wish to replace them with a
>pair of rear springs from a '90 9C1, which would give the car a little
>bit of a rake.  Does anybody have any pictures of any '77-85 B-bodies
>that have a rake of 2 or so inches?  I want to know how this looks
>before I go out and purchase the springs (BTW, they are pn 482086, $46
>each from Dal Lambert Buick I believe)
>
>Mike Jones
>'78 Delta 88 2dr

Use a jack and boost the rear end to see how it looks.

For about $70 you can buy a set of air bags for the rear and will be able
to adjust the height for the load ( I did this on my '65 98 because then I
could use OEM replacement springs and not worry about the problems you can
get with "cargo" springs...).


*************************************************************************
* THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY  *       Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )        *
*                           *       Dainippon Screen Eng. of America    *
* LEFT BLANK                *       3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.             *
*                           *       Santa Ana, CA. 92704                *
*************************************************************************

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 15:56:11 +0000
From: tcjmiami@ix.netcom.com
Subject: TH 350 Kick Down

I have a 1970 Cutlass S Convertible with a 350 4bbl and a TH 350
Transmission. My problem is that the kick down (Passing Gear) does
not work. The transmission works fine on normal acceleration and
down shifts as expected on stopping however there is no passing gear.
I can manually down shift and the transmission works fine.

Any ideas?

Thomas C. Johnson CNE CNI BSME
Networks Unlimted Inc.
Your Source for Network SOLUTIONS
(305) 940-3823 tcjmiami@ix.netcom.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 16:14:57 +0000
From: tcjmiami@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Valve seals and Spring Compressor 350 CID

I have a 1970 Cutlass S Convertible. The 350 4 bbl needs valve seals.
I would like to get a set of the old "Umbrella" seals that I used in
the 70s are these still available?

I also used a valve spring compressor that looked sort of like a pry
bar with a hole that I would attach to a Rocker Stud as a valve
spring COmpressor. By memory KD made these compressor tools are these
still around or am I going down a dead end memory lane? I assume that
the tool that I remember using on "Chevrolets" will work on an Olds.

Let me know if you  have any tips on this project before I jump in
and start cursing. (=;

Thank you in advance for your information.


Tom Johnson
1970 Cutlass S Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:32:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Sytsma <dsytsma@dc.seflin.org>
Subject: 94 GM mini van wiper control module intermittant failures info

Replace the module to fix it. GM had recall on 95/96's.

www.dot.gov has more info


Dennis Jon Sytsma

Homestead, Florida

dsytsma@dc.seflin.org    (this mailbox, text only)

I survived Hurricane Andrew! Ask me about it!

visit my new internet homepage and give me your comments or ideas

http://home.gzinc.com/sytsma/

my full internet account is:   sytsma@gzinc.com

please send large files to sytsma@gzinc.com or cc/forward a copy to
sytsma@gzinc.com to insure I get your message.

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 09:17:13 -0500
From: Stewart, Ray <RSCS@Metro-Dade.com>
To: 'Dennis Sytsma' <dsytsma@dc.seflin.org>
Subject: RE: Stolen Truck Scam

Dear Mr. Sytsma:

Besides contacting DOT regarding the wiper problem, you may wish to
write General Motors Corp., Chevrolet/Geo Motor Division, P. O. Box
7047, Troy, Mi. 48007-7047 or call them at 1-800-222-1020 to get
yourself on record.

Best of luck and happy holidays!

M. Ray Stewart
Administrative Assistant
Metropolitan Dade County
Consumer Services Department
Consumer Protection/Advocate Division
Tel: (305) 375-4222 Ext 201
Fax: (305) 375-4120 Fax
TDD: (305) 375-4177
rscs@metro-dade.com


> ----------
> From: Dennis Sytsma[SMTP:dsytsma@dc.seflin.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 1997 7:31 PM
> To: Stewart, Ray
> Subject: Re: Stolen Truck Scam
>
> Hi Ray;
>
> Mr and Mrs Battle are working with Lt Terp and the state atty's office
>
> now.
>
> Question on another subject. My wife's 94 chevy astro van had a wiper
> system failure that was chronic intermittant.  Dealer fixed it under
> warrenty the first time. The 2nd time, they refused to fix it under
> warrenty since the mileage is now around 60,000.  The dealer told me
> to
> replace the module because it fails all the time.  I bought a new
> module
> for around $40.00 and replaced it in about 5 minutes.  Sure enough it
> fxied it.
>
> Then I read in the Miami Hearld of a recall for 95 vans such as the
> astro
> and saferi by gm.  I called and reported it to DOT at their 800
> number.
>
> I think the recall should be expanded to incluede the 94's.  Any
> action
> that you would recommend I do, other than notify DOT?
>
> Dennis
>
>
> Dennis Jon Sytsma
>
> Homestead, Florida
>
> dsytsma@dc.seflin.org    (this mailbox, text only)
>
> I survived Hurricane Andrew! Ask me about it!
>
> visit my new internet homepage and give me your comments or ideas
>
> http://home.gzinc.com/sytsma/
>
> my full internet account is:   sytsma@gzinc.com
>
> please send large files to sytsma@gzinc.com or cc/forward a copy to
> sytsma@gzinc.com to insure I get your message.
>
> On Tue, 6 May 1997, Stewart, Ray wrote:
>
> >
> > This is in response to your recent e-mail regarding Mr. and Mrs. Chi
> > Battle's unfortunate experience with their truck being confiscated
> by
> > the police because it was a stolen vehicle. Since the battle's
> problem
> > involves stolen vehicle police procedures and vehicle titles, our
> agency
> > has no jurisdiction to intervene on the Battle's behalf. It appears,
> > however, that Mr. and Mrs. Battle have taken the appropriate action
> by
> > hiring an attorney and a private investigator.
> >
> > If you or Mr. and Mrs. Battle need assistance with any future
> consumer
> > problem, please let us know.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > M. Ray Stewart
> > Administrative Assistant
> > Metro-Dade Consumer Services Department
> > Consumer Protection/Advocate Division
> > 305-375-4222 Ext.201
> > rscs@metro_dade.com
> >
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:34:46 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: Buick 455 transplant (parts)

> > I have a catalog from T/A performance out of Arizona that specializes in
> > Buick.
> Cool.  They on the 'net?  Curious...
>
> > They have headers in there for G-body Buicks with 400+ cubic inch Buick
motors. > > Excellent.  Are they priced like normal exhaust parts, or do they >
require a second mortgage like the Big Block Olds?

        Just thought I'd throw in here that Poston Enterprises has a Buick
400-430-455 intake manifold that is a two-plane job that'll accept both square
and spreadbore carbs and reroutes the intake runners differently than most
2-planes and advertises 30-35 more HP.  It also offers "EGR compatibility".
It's the "S-Divider B-455" manifold.

Poston Enterprises
Department HR08,
206 N. Main Street,
Atmore, AL
334/368-8577
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Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
Rat-Powered '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com
Welland, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:21:50 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: 81' Cutlass Supreme

Jerry,

You can probably save about $30 of the $75-$100 for the job.  I know that is
what I'd do.  I always need the money saved for the things that cost so
dearly.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


>
>No prob, I was just wondering it maybe I can save a couple bucks and
>take the headliner down to them on it's own and have them fix it, and I
>can throw it back in, maybe saving a few dollars....
>
>> Dont' worry about the questions.  I have a number & I expect to ask many
>> more in 1998 as I get more time to work on those cars of mine.
>
>Hahahah... Eventually I am run outta questions...  There's only so much
>one can know about the 80's Cutlasses...  We'll keep trying though
>--
>- Jerry Christopher

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