
oldsmobile-digest      Tuesday, January 27 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1073



Re: Carburetor question
Re: 200-4R Posting...
Re: My first try at a web page
Re: '68 Cutlass/442 Ignition Switch
Constructing WWW page (NON OLDS)
Re: Weatherstripping
Re: SuperBowl Finale
1998 OCA Nationals - Info
Re: 1968 Read End
Re: 11.5 sec. 307!
Re: 425 Super Rocket specs.
Re: SuperBowl Finale
RE: (Non OLDS) Anybody have Jeff Antonucci's address??
Springfield Hotels
Re: Oldsmobile Decals For Sale (01/26)
Re: J&M in CA
More Power.  Argh argh argh.
Re: Constructing WWW page (NON OLDS)
Re: 50 Olds needs more help
Re: '68-9 mirror screw removal
71 W-30 Intake & Carb Wanted
Re: 76/77 Cutlass Grills on eBay
Re: 260 vs. other sb's
Re: FS: '86 442 CONVERTIBLE
Test Dont read
Front side power assembly wiring
Wtd: 4spoke Rallye St. Wheel
wtd: '65 88 bumpers
Olds "in the movies" list
StuporBowl
where's the crank?
Re: Doug Kitchener's E-Mail
test
71 Body Alignment
Re: EMT Cast Iron Treatment
test:don't read
Automotive Machine Shops in LA
Re:  Internal Engine Paints
Re: tools
Re: Power vrs. Vacuum

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:12:55 +0300
From: Esko Ilola <esko.ilola@tele.fi>
Subject: Re: Carburetor question

Boogah wrote:
<snip>
> sputters and peters out. After about 4 times it will stay running.  
> After running about 1 minute I try tapping the accelerator to kick the
> idle down to no avail.  I usually have to wait about 5-7 minutes before
> the idle will kick down.  I do not like the idea of the car idling at
> high for that long....   

Apparently the high-idle adjusment is wrong. It'll do just like this if
You have it adjusted too high. Also, all this indicates that You have the
choke in operating condition.

Find the adjustment screw (by playing the carburetor) and adjust it lower.
When perfectly adjusted You should note no difference in idle RPM whether
the choke is on or off.

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x----------------------------------------------------x
x Esko Ilola       mailto:esko.ilola@tele.fi         x
x                  mailto:esko.ilola@tele.telebox.fi x
x                   phone:+358 2040 3439             x
x Oldsmobile 98 -64 4DHT  Holiday sports sedan       x
x "Where the action is...."                          x
x----------------------------------------------------x

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:27:05 -0500
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Re: 200-4R Posting...

Tom Millard wrote:

> Codes for 200-4R's:
> ** KZF - 442's
> ** CZF - Monte SS's
> ** BRF - Turbo Regals
> ** OZ - Hurst's
> OM - 350 Olds Diesels
> OG - 307 Olds
> BY - 252 V6 Cars
> AA & AP - Cadillac's
> The codes marked with the ** are the ones with the better valve bodies.

> All non performance trans received governors that were designed to shift at
> 3000 rpms  WOT.  This is important because with the 3000 rpm type governor,
> the trans will shift from 1-2-3-4 very rapidly which makes for poor
> acceleration at mild or
> light throttle. Monte SS (CZF) trans shifted at 4800 rpms WOT as did the
> 442's.  The 84-85 Turbo Regals shifted at 4800 rpms WOT, the 86's shifted at
> 5200 WOT, and the 87's shifted at 5000 rpms WOT.  You can buy these directly
> from GM at about $60 garage cost.

> I hope this info helps....
> Please drop me a line if you need any more info...

Maybe as early as June, I'll be pulling the 350 Rocket out of the '78
Delta, having it rebuilt, and drop it in the '85 Delta.  The '85
originally had a 307, and (according to the posting) has the OG version
of the 200-4r.  This tranny has about 190,000km on it, and a fresh 350
would likely puree' the innards within a few months.

Would I be better off having it rebuilt in it's stock form, rebuilding
it with a few upgrades, or just buying a used performance version (OZ,
CZF, KZF) ?  I won't be driving the snot out of it, but I want something
that'll put up with a small amount of abuse, and I like the idea of
having higher WOT shift points.  I don't have a clue what the rear-end
ratios are, but I know for a fact that it's only one-wheel-peel...(I
guess an open diff is easier on a tranny...easier to spin one tire than
two).

I like the idea of an overdrive tranny...I have to keep the gas mileage
within reality.  I'd like to use the TH350 from the '78, because they're
bulletproof, and the swap seems fairly easy...but, I can't have it
revving that high at highway speeds.  And there's no way I'm going any
taller than 2.73!  (I think it's got the 2.73 in the rear)

I'd like to keep costs down, but reliability is more of a
concern...(that's why I'm a little hesitant towards buying a used
tranny).  Also, how hard would it be to find a performance 200-4r? I'm
no transmissional genius, so I wouldn't be doing the work myself...

P.S.--can a transmission burn fluid?  The '78 has gone through a couple
hundred mL within about 9,000km...I looked all over, and can't find a
leak.  When I did the fluid & filter change, I also added a container of
transmission-in-a-can...could this stuff have burnt up?  I *very* rarely
abuse the TH350, because I don't want to swappin' trannies in a vehicle
that I'll likely be disposing of in the near future...

TIA,
- -- 
S. Dave Ward  (mailto:ward@ptbo.igs.net)

'78 Delta 88 Royale (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 R.B.   (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4  (305 TBI)

(Ennismore, Ontario, CANADA)

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:24:51 +0300
From: Esko Ilola <esko.ilola@tele.fi>
Subject: Re: My first try at a web page

Matt Creaman wrote:

> pics could use a little scaling down as Charley said. Make your tags
> like this= <img src=xxxxxx.gif width=300> or something. It'll work. Make
> it just small enough to fit on a whole page on the screen.

Better Yet to use some picture manipulation program to size down the pictures.

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x----------------------------------------------------x
x Esko Ilola       mailto:esko.ilola@tele.fi         x
x                  mailto:esko.ilola@tele.telebox.fi x
x                   phone:+358 2040 3439             x
x Oldsmobile 98 -64 4DHT  Holiday sports sedan       x
x "Where the action is...."                          x
x----------------------------------------------------x

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 03:18:00 EST
From: DavidB442 <DavidB442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: '68 Cutlass/442 Ignition Switch

Bob, 
  Before you do take a look at the retaining ring off of a coomon bike!
Yes I said a bike.... I used one in a pinch about fifteen years ago and have
near changed it back yet.... But then again maybe I just got lucky....heehee

David

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:11:49 +0300
From: Esko Ilola <esko.ilola@tele.fi>
Subject: Constructing WWW page (NON OLDS)

Since soo many of You have started to climb the rocky way of
constructing a WWW page of Your own I'll put my onions on the
soup.

Are You guys REALLY using AOL's Personal Rebooter (sorry AOL but
Your program sucks) for creating You page ?

Make Your living easier and try one of these:

Claris Home Page at "HTTP://www.claris.com"
Symantec Visual Page at "HTTP://www.symantec.com"

These are both well behaving products and there is a fully operational
trial version for both of them. The trial version will disable itself
after some period of time.

They both are relatively easy-to-use Claris being the easier and
they don't require any whatsoever knowledge about HTML to make up
Your page.

Both of these can do the publishing using FTP connection that's
propably the advantage in using AOL's program. 

There is a crack for Claris Home Page that will extend it's "life" beound
year 2000. I don't advice to use it since it is a crime and against good
manners and moral.

The crack for MAC-version can be found at:
"http://www.plato-net.or.jp/usr/vladimir/undergroundmac/Cracking/Claris%20Homepage%202%20Crack.sit.hqx"

The PC users will help themselves in this subject as they are used
to do so during the long companionship with Mycosoft products.

Hint: Use Alta Vista for search:
"http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&what=web"

Type in "claris near crack" and You get several pages of this stuff....

Once more !
I ALWAYS buy my software. The price of the software supports companies
to make good programs for us. The Mycosoft policy to distribute free programs
(like the Frog Page) is just something I can't understand. So support the
smaller ones, generally they make better programs, they just have to !

Did You know that Mycosoft bought HotMail ?
We'll see how long it's free.

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x----------------------------------------------------x
x Esko Ilola       mailto:esko.ilola@tele.fi         x
x                  mailto:esko.ilola@tele.telebox.fi x
x                   phone:+358 2040 3439             x
x Oldsmobile 98 -64 4DHT  Holiday sports sedan       x
x "Where the action is...."                          x
x----------------------------------------------------x

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:09:31 +0900
From: James Zito <jimzito@uriel.net>
Subject: Re: Weatherstripping

> All of the door weatherstripping is off and is unprotected from any
> kind of moisture.  I have got to get this car done so that I can get
> it appraised for insuring.  If there is a good replacement I'll have
> to contact the persons I bought them from to see to see if I can get
> something that will work.
>
> Later.....
>
> Chris Sparks
>

Try Fusick's or Year One, I think they both do stripping.

Jim
69 442 conv

> 68 442 SC (Frosty, she is very unhappy about the W/S)

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:23:06 EST
From: RCKTPWR <RCKTPWR@aol.com>
Subject: Re: SuperBowl Finale

AFC AFC AFC!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!   From a NY JETS FAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Bernie

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 98 07:39:35 -0500
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: 1998 OCA Nationals - Info

All the info you need about the OCA Nationals in Springfield, IL can be 
found at:

http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca

When you get there, click on the "1998 OCA National Meet" button and you'll 
get the whole story, including swap meet and participant registration forms 
to print, fill out and send in.  Hope this helps out someone.
     
 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson
| | | 1987 442 W-42
|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
| | | Oldsmobile Club of America #18984
 ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Newest Chapter of OCA
(W) brad.nicholson@ssa.gov   (H) brad442@erols.com
Personal Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442
OCC Web Page - http://www.erols.com/brad442/occ
OCA Web Page - http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:54:13 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: 1968 Read End

Hi all,

What kinds of rear ends were available in 1968?  In particular were
4.11s Oldsmobile rear ends?

Chris Sparks

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:44:01 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: 11.5 sec. 307!

Chris Brown Witt wrote:
> 
> I did 11.5's on the 1/8 running a stock 87 Cutlass 307...
> ==============
> How do you get your car into the 11's when you're stuck with a 307?
> 
> Just shorten the track!

That's all we have around here is 1/8 Tracks...  So that's all I get to
play with.
 
> I laughed a good one when I saw that 11.5 second 307 line!

Shoulda been there for the 13.5 Runs on the 1/8 with my old 77 Mustang
and it's 4 Cyl.
- -- 
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:51:31 -0500
From: tonwald@eta.k12.mn.us (Tony Waldner)
Subject: Re: 425 Super Rocket specs.

Kurt --

All '65 big block A heads had 2 inch intakes.  The difference in the 370 hp
engine was the valve length, not head diameter. The Starfire engine had a
longer valve stem.  It was identified by a grove at the top of the stem.  I
can't remember what the difference in length was offhand,  but I do believe
that the exhaust valve was also longer than standard 425's.  I guess I will
have to dig out the ol' spec sheets when I get home!

Have a good one --

Tony

70 442 W-30
70 Toro GT W-34
65 Jetstar 88 w/4-speed
85 Cutlass Salon 455 Drag Racer
92 Seville STS

Bob, I'm late getting back to you on this as I had to do some resource
>checking.  It seems that all "official" specifications including AMA specs
>show all '65 A heads having 2.00" intakes. Parts books show the Starfire
>getting one valve and  the 442s and all other 425s getting another.  It
>seems though, that there may have been a mid year introduction of a larger
>valve.  I've heard of a 2.06.  I have a number of A heads, I'll measure the
>valves.  I'd be interested in anyone elses experience  with big valve
>''65s.
>
>Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:02:43 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: SuperBowl Finale

RCKTPWR wrote:
> 
> AFC AFC AFC!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!   From a NY JETS FAN!!!!!!!!!!!

AFC...  Sigh, finally....  Now, onto next year...  Only a few more
months til the season starts!

- -- 
- - Jerry Christopher
- - HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
- - 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
- - Here we go Steelers!!!

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:06:44 -0600
From: Mike Taylor <MTaylor@msi-us.com>
Subject: RE: (Non OLDS) Anybody have Jeff Antonucci's address??

Cecil,

Try:

antonj@erols.com.

Mike Taylor


>----------
>From: 	NotDads442[SMTP:NotDads442@aol.com]
>Sent: 	Sunday, January 25, 1998 10:22 PM
>To: 	Mike Taylor; mikec@pop.kis.net; meyer@highsoftny.com;
>Nascarnut5@aol.com; marranca@mhv.net; kenbacon@sheltonbbs.com;
>wmachine@en.com; WMACHINES@aol.com; Napyellow@aol.com; JMakhl9671@aol.com;
>miket@interaccess.com; jev114@email.psu.edu; 442@excessive.org;
>dana@asicstiger.com; smille02@astro.ocis.temple.edu; jcasey@epix.net;
>oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: 	(Non OLDS) Anybody have Jeff Antonucci's address??
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've been using this address and getting bad returns antoj@erols.com.
>
>Jeff if you're still on the list let me know your address.
>
>Cecil
>1991 W41
>OCA #29604
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:56:57 -0600
From: "Daren & Laurie Hendley" <daren@revealed.net>
Subject: Springfield Hotels

If you haven't made reservations for Springfield yet you should pretty soon.
I called last night. Holiday Inn is completely sold out. Crown Plaza has 10
rooms on the 16th none on the 17th and 30 on the 18th and these are not OCA
rooms so the price is $114 a night ($103 AAA). There is several more hotels
in the immediate area and the only one with rooms those three nights is the
Signature Inn (217-529-6611 3090 Stevenson dr. 2 blocks from Holiday
Inn\Crown plaza) and they have only 8 rooms left.

Daren

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:57:20 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Decals For Sale (01/26)

Please contact me at coyster@earthlink.net or 702-361-5111 ext 230 thats my
work number. I am very interseted in your decal sets.
Thanks Coy

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> From: Thomas G. Stoner <tgstoner@umich.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Oldsmobile Decals For Sale (01/26)
> Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 8:01 PM
> 
> I have the following Oldsmobile related item which I would like to sell:
> 
> NOS 16 x 28 inch sheet of white Oldsmobile Racing decals, as used on the
> 1980s NASCAR and NHRA race cars.  Includes three ³Oldsmobile² script
> decals. (one each 8 x 26, 5 x 16, and 3 x10) and eight rectangular
> rocket emblem decals (one 4 x 8, one 3-1/2 x 8, one 3 x 6, one 2-1/2 x
> 6, two 1-1/2 x 3, and two 1 x 3)  I believe that these can be applied to
> outside surfaces, as well as to the inside of a window.  These were a
> factory provided item to race teams and not widely available.  $16.00,
> including shipping to any address in North America.  (1/26/98)
> 
> Notify me directly at tgstoner@umich.edu if you would like to purchase
> this item, or if you would like additional information about it.  Thank
> you.
> 
>           ===
> +======= | | | =======================+
> |        | | |   Tom Stoner           |
> |        |/|\|   OCA #3943            |
> |        | | |   Ann Arbor, Michigan  |
> |         ===    tgstoner@umich.edu   |
> +=====================================+
> 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:00:13 -0800
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: J&M in CA

Yes we are going to include them also. We are waiting for orginal sales and
design info on these stripes and other decal items.
Vendor said we should have that information by friday of this week.
Thanks Coy

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> From: W-MACHINES <wmachine@en.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: J&M in CA
> Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 2:20 PM
> 
> How about the "dealer option" rally stripe for the '65 & ''66 442?
> 
> Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com
> '65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
> '66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
> '66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo
> 
> ----------
> > From: mr. coy d. arbogast <coyster@earthlink.net>
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: J&M in CA
> > Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 6:53 PM
> > 
> > Hello Olds fans.
> > We have finally got our Web Site up and running.
> > The site is engineeredgraphics.com. If you have problems referencing it
> > email me to let me know.
> > We would like to hear from other olds fans to create links to there
> pages.
> > We will be doing and update next week with our 68 442 and the stripes
> that
> > we sell and we are currently working on a 76 442 stripe kit also.
> > If there is any kind of stripe or logo you would like to see email us.
> > Also if you decide to us our service and say you saw our web site you
get
> a
> > 10% price dicount. And just for having an Olds you will get an
additional
> > 5% off.
> > Thanks
> > coyster@earthlink.net
> > "Rocket"
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: TERMO1L <TERMO1L@aol.com>
> > > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > > Subject: J&M in CA
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 3:06 PM
> > > 
> > > I know where it is located but I am in WI does anyone know a number
or
> > address
> > > of J&M speed center in Riverside CA?
> > > 
> > > Mike

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:20:11 +0000
From: "Joe Gerschutz" <gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu>
Subject: More Power.  Argh argh argh.

Here's the situation: 82 Cultass Calais.  231 V6.  No power 
whatsoever.  Who you recommend swapping in a V8 (350 or 403), or 
installing a turbo from a regal?  How much work is involved with the 
turbo installation, as I have little knowledge on them.  Will I be 
able to find them in a salvage yard, or have to buy one somewhere 
else?  Are they expensive?  I heard they go out after 25-50K miles, 
is this true?  Any input would be appreciated.

Joe



- --------------------------------------------------
- ---Joe Gerschutz------------------------------
- ---University of Dayton----------------------
- ---gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu--------
- --------------------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:12:00 -0500
From: "Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician" <krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us>
Subject: Re: Constructing WWW page (NON OLDS)

I wrote mine in plain jane html, your right though, AOL Personal 
Re-booter does suck. :)
> 
> Are You guys REALLY using AOL's Personal Rebooter (sorry AOL but
> Your program sucks) for creating You page ?
> 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Krumwiede - MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Phone (815) 235-6121
Fax (815) 235-6130
Home Page http://www.highland.cc.il.us
Mailto:Krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:20:40 EST
From: Wrencher43@aol.com
Subject: Re: 50 Olds needs more help

Bill
your right, i probably should have gone on to say that the weak link is really
the 3rd member yolk. i would love to run the stock unit but i want to beef
up the yolk\ujoint area. any ideas?

Wrencher43
Mike M.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:27:22 -0600
From: Scott.Wheeler@pinnacle-brands.com
Subject: Re: '68-9 mirror screw removal

>All that'll get you on MI mirrors is your tool broekn off in there.

???  MI ???
>Knock it off the car with a piece of wood or plastic. Then attack the
screws
>from below, where you can access the large head with your NEW vice-grips
and
>wiggle, heat, and lube until it comes free.

I tried knocking the mirror back with a chunk o' pine and all it did was
move the mirror back on the gasket, should it move it back and then pop up?

Still need to try the flat screwdriver trick.

Let me know!

BTW I took some pics of the motor finished, on the stand, looks great! I'll
send them to Bryceman for the registry.

Scott Wheeler
68 442 Conv
Dallas

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:45:04 -0600
From: JR <joertexas@earthlink.net>
Subject: 71 W-30 Intake & Carb Wanted

I'm looking for information (as well as the actual parts) on the carb
and intake manifold for a 71 W-30. Numbers, ID marks, etc. would all be
helpful.

JR
72 Cutlass S

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:49:01 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: 76/77 Cutlass Grills on eBay

> Who was it the other day was looking for these grills?  Go here:
> 
> http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4946897
> 

Thanks, Paul, it was me.  Unfortunately, it's 442, not Cutlass that my
friend needs.  They're different, and becoming impossible to find.

               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:48:56 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: 260 vs. other sb's

> In my experience, the 260's girly-ports are matched by the later 307. > As for intakes, the 260 always had the 2V or psuedo-Qjet, right?
> So, the 260 heads should "work", if you can call it that, on a 307.

The 260 heads have water jacket holes in between the intake ports.  The
orig. intake covers them.  I found this out using a mid 70's 4bbl intake
(trying to make it perform at least a little!)  When I filled the
coolant back up, it kinda went everywhere.  I swore a lot, and put the
DualJet back on.  (This was in my "pre-engine-swap" days...)

The moral of story?  if you put 260 heads on anything (besides the
garage floor) double check that all water ports are coverred or plugged!


               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:58:41 -0700
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: FS: '86 442 CONVERTIBLE

> That's right, a 1986 442 convertible. 
		< < < S N I P > > >
> This is all I know.  For more info, contact Connie at mailto:CLGARRISON@aol.com

WOW!!!  I WANT!!!  (Too bad I'm about 15K short!)  Anyone have pictures
of it?  There ~needs~ to be a web page devoted to that car.  Sounds like
a ~definate~ one of a kind!

- -- 
               Charley Buehner -- The Oldsmobile Magnet
For Me:  mailto:buehner@lyrea.com       mailto:charley@rocketship.com
		http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
    Sidney Radio Shack:     mailto:redline_av@webtv.net
		        Sidney Montana

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:23:38 -0500
From: Joseph Wolfe <joseph.wolfe@penske.com>
Subject: Test Dont read

This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. This is only a test.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:25:00 -0800
From: Merlina Tate <merlinat@televar.com>
Subject: Front side power assembly wiring

We have a '54 Olds 88, 4 door.  We are reinstalling the front seat and 
power seat assembly and wiring harness. 

Can anyone help with a wiring diagram. We are having trouble seeing 
which is the hot wire.  From the looks of it, the white wire is the only 
possiblility, but Jim thinks the white and black wires are usually 
ground wires.  

Is there any secret as to how to get the mechanism in the correct 
position for installation.  Right now the spring is in the extended 
position, but we have a picture of when the seat was taken out that 
shows the spring in a contracted position.

We have attached the power mechanisms to the seat.  Plan to set the seat 
in and then attach them to the floor.  Is that the proper procedure?

Thanks for the help

Merlina Tate

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:28:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Wtd: 4spoke Rallye St. Wheel

Reply to this guy here please!


> From jmerritt@columbiaresearch.com Mon Jan 26 09:59:07 1998
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:17:26 -0500
> To: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
> Subject: Rally Steering Wheel
>
>      Dear Sir
>     =20
>         I am looking for a 4 spoke rally steering wheel, like those found=20
>      on 442's, for my 72 cutlass
>     =20
>      joel

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:36:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: wtd: '65 88 bumpers

I have a local guy who is fixing up his '65 88 2-door coupe. Needs bumpers and
a few small items that I have. Anyone got bumpers for him?

btw, this car is a MANUAL TRANS 88. Hear of 'em, never seen one.

Call him directly please:

Harland Connell
517-676-4185

You might tell him how you heard of him, too. I read his tiny ad in the local
Shopping Guide little paper.

I directed him to the 2 bumper ads in the latest JWO, and he knows of Hemming's
already.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:53:06 +0000
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Olds "in the movies" list

I know this Olds movie horse has been beaten to death over and over, but
I just couldn't help sighting the gray '67 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
Woody Harrelson drives in White Men Can't Jump. Why does he always get
to drive Olds'? He had a 442 in Kingpin, too! He must like 'em, or
request 'em, or it might just be a quinky-dink.

I want to start a list of Oldses to appear in movies and throw them on a
web page,

I have these so far:

White Men Can't Jump
Kingpin
A Christmas Story
Howard Stern's Private Parts (i think, can anybody confirm this? I
remember that it drove by in the background while a car was stopped
somewhere)
Dazed and Confused

I'm sure most of you can add more!!!!
- -- 
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:02:41 EST
From: KS7RACING <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: StuporBowl

Remember, ladies and gents: it only takes 1 ball to play
football....................

Auto Racing. Anything else is just a game.


Ken Snyder Racing
Kansas City, Kansas
NASCAR Winston Cup - coming soon!

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:16:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: where's the crank?

well, the scrapers are mounted right above where the crank comes out of the
oil.  it scrapes the oil off before it goes around far enough to sling it off.
sposed to aid horsepower, to a degree.
================
Whoa, your crank best not be "coming out of the oil"!

The oil sump is supposed to hold oil BELOW the crank.

Next time you have your engine on the stand, put the dipstick & tube back in,
see where the oil level should be...
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:32:54 -0600
From: dnewman@wcbi.com (Doug Newman)
Subject: Re: Doug Kitchener's E-Mail

Thanks to everyone that replied.  I've got it now, thanks!

Doug Newman
Columbus, MS
1987 442

http://www.442.com/newman.html

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:50:12 +0000
From: ejhufnagel@juno.com (Edward J. Hufnagel)
Subject: test

test

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:40:39 EST
From: SRDIET <SRDIET@aol.com>
Subject: 71 Body Alignment

I asked for some help in alignment dimensions for a 71 442 conv. body to help
me get my body parts properly adjusted.  I thought someone here has put
together a 70-72 that possible could help.

I could use any information regarding door/fender/body gaps.

Can anyone here help me ?

SteveDietrich
  S/E PA
    71 442 W30 Conv.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:51:12 -0500 (EST)
From: FERRERO@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
Subject: Re: EMT Cast Iron Treatment

actually, I have had a similar experience.

81 olds cutlass exhaust manifolds were quite rusty...
i went to a "Parts America" (owned by western auto/sears)
i bought cast iron gray (high temp) spray paint.

i put the manifold to a wire wheel and got it clean,
sprayed it, and buffed it with newspaper and got excellent 
results for a 1/3 of the price of the can on hot rod tv.

basically, shop around for the paint, you can get it cheaper
and get the same quality results.

- --joe

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:51:18 -0600
From: Patrick Derkacz <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Subject: test:don't read

Is this working, I havent gotten any mail in nine hours

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:59:52 -0800
From: aguilars@pacbell.net
Subject: Automotive Machine Shops in LA

Can anyone recommend a good automotive machine shop in the LA area (San
Fernando, San Gabriel Valley)?  I am rebuilding the engine from my '70
442 and want to take it someplace with a good track record.  Thanks.

Joseph

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:05:35 -0500 (EST)
From: FERRERO@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
Subject: Re:  Internal Engine Paints

if i am not mistaken, i think the eastwood company has the glyptol 
stuff.

sears also has recently put out an "automotive catalog" so you can use 
your sears card.  it is vertually identical to eastwood co. and has the same 
fax number.

when i placed an order through "sears" i needed 1 thing that sears 
catalog didn't have listed and made a mention that "eastwood has it".

i had to call "eastwood" for it too, but the strangest thing happened...
i got the same operator at eastwood as i got for sears!!!

have fun!

- --joe

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:09:13 -0500 (EST)
From: FERRERO@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
Subject: Re: tools

any way i can see a diagram of how these parts went together?

- --joe

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:13:19 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Power vrs. Vacuum

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 9:29 AM
Subject: Power vrs. Vacuum


>I have had many people asked me lately if 69 cutlass has power trunk
or if
>it has vacuum, I have read most of my books on this and have not been
able
>to determine the answer.
>So I would like assistance form the list on this.  Do any of you who
have a
>69 cutlass have power trunk or vacuum trunk?
>If it is power what shape is the lock and solenoid mechanism?
>If you have vacuum can you describe your trunk opening button or
switch?

Robert,
Co-incidently, I just got my "power" trunk mechanism working today. It
was simply a matter of connecting the wires that had been pulled out
by the glovebox arm catching on them. I had read on the list at some
point that this was a vacuum unit, so I was looking for vacuum lines
under the dash and found nothing that would connect to the switch. I
just happened to luck onto the stray wire under there. (I don't
contort too well anymore and find underdash work extremely tough),
So, the switch is a button inside the glovebox. It has a yellow and
black wire connected to the two terminals. Does this mean it is a
"power" lock, or would I find the vacuum switch somewhere else? I'll
check the lock and solenoid shape tomorrow.

Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass S convertible
OCA# 29770
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

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