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oldsmobile-digest       Tuesday, June 30 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1341



Re: Headers & "H" vs. "X"
Re: which vinyl dye is best?
Hood Insulation
Re: G-tech G meter, real or phoney?
runs too rich => this is what i'll do
RE: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse
Staycool Distribution - No EPA license required to use HiCool-12a - Freon
replacement - R-12 403 rebuild Re: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse Where do i
fill the transmission fluid ? Re: Hood Insulation 64 Cutlass for Sale Re: which
vinyl dye is best? Re: A/C Blower Problems RE: AC conversion Re: AC conversion
RE: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse Re: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse Re: Hood
Insulation Re: Where do i fill the transmission fluid ? attn. 66-67 folks 
......
FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro Re: AC conversion Re: attn. 66-67 folks
...... Re: attn. 66-67 folks ...... Re: Hood Insulation Re: Hood Insulation Re:
Hood Insulation how to unscribe Re: Hood Insulation Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72
Cutlass/442/Toro

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:05:32 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Headers & "H" vs. "X"

Jonathan,

I can give you some info we were going to use on our 71 Cutlass stock car.
The "X" type crossover has been found to be superior in NASCAR-style
restricted-induction racing.  It has to do with using the exhaust pulses to
assist the scavenging effect from the cylinders.  The more of the burned
air/fuel mixture you can remove from the cylinder, the more fresh mixture you
can get in. During the very first moments that the intake valve is open the
exhaust valve is closing.  The exhaust valve usually is almost closed, but the
effect of having both valves open even slightly causes the exiting gases to
create a vacuum that pulls the fresh mixture in.  The exhaust tone with this
type of setup is definitely different, when some teams in the NASCAR Winston
Cup Series began using them you could tell the difference when they came by
the microphone.  Morgan/McClure Racing was one of the first teams to use
these.

So, why don't we use them?  This year, our local track officials wrote in the
rules that each cylinder bank of the engine has to be completely seperated
clear back past the mufflers.  Oh well..............

Hope this helps.  Take Care!

Ken Snyder

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:03:57 -0400
From: Jim & Jo Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: which vinyl dye is best?

Jason

        Go to your auto paint supplier and have him mix you ready to spray
vinyl bye. It is much better than the can stuff. Also use a product called
TSP to clean and open the vinyl pores before spraying. It will stick alot
better.

Jim Chermack

At 03:44 PM 6/30/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>I am going to die the green interior of my 72 Supreme black so it better
matches the blue paint job it will get soon.
>Any advice on what is the best dye out there? I bought some dupli-color dye
from Autozone and got a few trim pieces
>done.  Not bad stuff but it is already starting to chip off in places.
>
>Jason Labay (jlabay@ee.net)   Akron, OH
>98 Silverado C2500.....Vortec 350, A4, 4.10
>80 Olds 442 W-30........350, A3, 2.73
>75 Hurst/Olds W-25.....350, A3, 2.56
>72 Cutlass Supreme.....drag car project
>
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:06:16 EDT
From: <KASOLDS@aol.com>
Subject: Hood Insulation

This may be a dumb question, but which side of the insulation should face
down?
I got my insulation from year one.  There is a green/grey side that is soft,
and there is a black side that is harder material.
Thanks
Keith (70 442)

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:14:57 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: G-tech G meter, real or phoney?

Looked over the web page in question, and it sure looks legit to me.  If SEMA
gives out an award for something, that's a good sign to look for.

I have worked on rate gyros in the past, and they can do many of the same
things accelerometers do.  I'd like to get one of these, my next project car
after the stock car will be a 72 Cutlass 442 replica upgraded for SCCA Solo I
& II competition.

Stock-car style Wide-5 hubs, 16 X 12 wheels, road racing rubber, and a 350
with Edelbrock heads and full of Dave Smith Engineering goodies,  I just can't
wait.........

Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:24:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: runs too rich => this is what i'll do

Hi List Members,

Thanks a lot for your help on my non olds question. I decided to take
that cheap rebuilt (motocraft) 4BBL carburetor out the old L**coln, rip
out all the vacuum emission controls and put in a new 750cfm 4BBL from
edelbrock. (Louisiana is great...)
While doing this I am also putting in a used aluminium intake manifold
for some more torque since I want to pull my cutlass on a trailer with
the old L**coln, which makes my question olds related anyway :-)

Thanks a lot again for your help!

George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv.
'77 Lincoln Continental
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:28:26 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse

I saw a '68 Olds Limo in a junkyard.  It was about 25 feet long and had 4
sets of doors & 4 bench seats, plus an extra 6 feet or so of storage space
behind the rear-most bench.  I believe it even had two sets of wheels in the
back.  It had a Cutlass/Vista front end, and housed an Olds 455. I didn't
think it came from the factory that way, but who knows...  Can't check it
now, it's gone to Japan to become a new Honda.


>
> Someone asked the question about whether Olds made a limo.  Olds made
> ambulances and hearses for a few years, but by my records they only made
> production limos in one year, 1968.
>
> 1968
> Model 9840 = Ambulance
> Model 9850 = Limousine
> Model 9890 = Hearse

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:33:37 -0400
From: Mike Hamlin <krzy4evr@usit.net>
Subject: Staycool Distribution - No EPA license required to use HiCool-12a -
Freon replacement - R-12

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<P></U></FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#FFFF99" SIZE=3D"+1" FACE=3D"Geneva"><U>=
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'd like, try HiCool-12a. These newer A/C systems are made with more robus=
t compressors to handle the inefficiencies of R-134a. Because HiCool-12a =
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re output from your A/C system will be substantially colder, you'll get b=
etter gas mileage, and your engine will run cooler. And because HiCool-12=
a is noncorrosive (R-134a can become corrosive) your A/C system component=
s will last much longer.</P>
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3-94 or older);</U></I> You can still get the great performance of R-12 w=
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 of systems provided you make a few minor changes to your A/C components.=
 (Cost: less than $20) In order to be in compliance with EPA regulations =
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<P></U></FONT></B><FONT COLOR=3D"#FFFF99" SIZE=3D"+1" FACE=3D"Geneva">Did=
 you know it can cost as much as $150 dollars to recharge with good old R=
- -12, better known as freon? The reason it is so expensive is because freo=
n has been outlawed in the U.S. and in other countries around the world. =
And we all know what happens when demand outstrips supply: <I>Prices go u=
p.</I> Freon is now the second most smuggled product into the U.S. Second=
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 for as much as $50! And that's if you can find a legal source.</P>
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 to service their auto A/C with few options</P>
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<P></I><B><U>You could.....</U></B> Have your auto A/C serviced and charg=
ed with traditional freon and spend an average of $150!</P>
<P><B><U>Or.....</U></B> You could convert your existing auto A/C to the =
new less efficient, less cooling R-134a system. But heres the catch, conv=
erting can run upwards of $1000. This process involves an extensive retro=
fit of many major A/C components. Once you have completed the retrofit, t=
he system is charged with R-134a. This is the new refrigerant imposed by =
the EPA for all new autos. Unfortunately it has many limitations which ma=
ke it less than ideal. These include: High toxicity, flammable at a low t=
emperature, lack of cooling efficiency (your car doesn't get as cool), an=
d it takes more power to compress, this translates to greater fuel consum=
ption. Many people that have chosen to convert to R-134a have experienced=
 premature compressor failure, and very poor cooling. As you can see, ret=
rofitting to R-134a is less than desirable.</P>
<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><B><U>HiCool-12a is the solution.....</U></B> </P>
<P>Charge your auto A/C system with HiCool-12a and get low cost, optimal =
cooling, and low power consumption. You'll need (2-3), 6 oz. cans of&nbsp=
; HiCool-12a @ $9.95 each. Older cars may need a simple change of pressur=
e fittings and other minor changes to comply with EPA rules. </FONT><A HR=
EF=3D"./faqs.html"><FONT COLOR=3D"#FFFF99" SIZE=3D"+1" FACE=3D"Geneva"><U=
>(see faqs page)</U></FONT></A><FONT COLOR=3D"#FFFF99" SIZE=3D"+1" FACE=3D=
"Geneva"><U></U> Your total cost to charge an A/C system would be less th=
an $50</P>
<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><B><I>Below is a comparison of your refrigerant optio=
ns in both cooling ability and cost</I>.</B></FONT></TD>
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">Refrigerant</=
FONT></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><B><I><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">Cooling=
 ability</FONT></I></B></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><B><I><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">Cost to=
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><B><I><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">Refrige=
rant costs</FONT></I></B></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><B><I><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">Total c=
ost</FONT></I></B></TD></TR></TABLE></TD>
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">R-134a</FONT>=
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">moderate</FON=
T></TD>
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<P ALIGN=3D"CENTER"><FONT COLOR=3D"#0099FF" FACE=3D"Geneva">up to $1000</=
FONT></TD>
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ONT></TD>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:37:53 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: 403 rebuild

Hi all, looks(sounds) like my 403 is gonna need a rebuild. Anyone out there
have some first hand experience with the 403? I am planning on changing the
heads to 64-67cc models, a little better cam, and thats pretty much it. No
boring, as long as it doesn't need it, same pistons, etc. Nothing wild, just a
little more power out of this engine. I would love to hear from some of you
that have first hand knowledge of this. Also, what about a cam? There are 2
listed in Summit...not much of a selection. I want a fairly good idle, you
know, not shaking bolts out of the car. Thanks for any and all info, Dorian

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:04:47 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse

Poking head into Olds List:

Hi all! I've been lurking for the last few weeks and feel the need to bite the
bait here on the Limo topic.

Being only secure in Generation 1 Toro topics, I'll add my .02 only to that 
end.

Yes, there were 66/67/68 Toronado limos made. However, they were what you would
call Airport Limos and were used almost exclusively at airports. I remember
seeing them as a young boy at Milwaukee's General Billy Mitchell Field.

In fact, I have reports that there are (were) 2 1966 Toronado Airport Limos on
Highway 94 near Janesville, WI a few years ago. I had sighting reports from TWO
reputable folks too!! I never got a chance to check them out. Darn!!

For a peek at a 68 Toro Limo, go to: http://www.toronado.org/68limo.htm in the
Toro FAQ.

Also, I believe 100 Years of Oldsmobile, by Dennis Casteele, has several
pictures of Hearses used throughout the Olds production line. Also, being a
Funeral Director, I know there were hearses/ambulances made on the 88/98
chassis and even earlier back to the 30's and 40's. These were generally done
by aftermarket retrofitters like S&S, Victoria or whoever did it at the
time....etc etc. BTW: Buick, Pontiac, Cadillac did the same thing with their
competing models. Never saw a Chevy Hearse or ambulance though....have you? (:

Take Care,

Sparky
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:00:13 PDT
From: "Siddhartha Karkare" <sidar_k@hotmail.com>
Subject: Where do i fill the transmission fluid ?

Hi !

For a Olds cutlass ciera ( '84 ) , where do i fill in the transmission
fluid for the automatic transmission ?

thanks in advance
sidar

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:00:20 EDT
From: <GT5726@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation

I would guess that the "soft" side face the engine...and the "hard,shiny" side
face the hood...My reasoning for this  is, that the sound deadening effects of
the hood liner would
be eliminated(or at the very least, reduced beyond it's cost effectiveness)by
the harder sides reflective surface.Also, the shiny side would make a better
suited surface for mounting the hoodliner. Collyn.....

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:10:28 EDT
From: <BrKLynS@aol.com>
Subject: 64 Cutlass for Sale

Description: 1964 olds cutlass for sale.2 door hardtop.330(290 hp at 10.25:1
comp) v8 4 barrell carb.new plugs,wires,cap,rotor,condensor and radiator
hoses.car primed black.bumpers both painted chrome(spray can),grill redone-
also painted black-just tips are showing(great).new headlights.new tires.very
powerful car!! $1000 or best offer.-email me at brklyns@aol.com
City: staten island
State: New York

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:22:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: which vinyl dye is best?

> Any advice on what is the best dye out there?

The  auto parts stuff is ok for most applications,but for seats and
"HIGH" traffic areas , go to the automotive paint store,they sell
several kinds from spray to brush-on.They can also tell you the best
steps for prep on sensitive areas.
John
==
mailto:super442@yahoo.com
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-----Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!



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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:57:50 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: A/C Blower Problems

Blower motors are readily available in most any parts store.  They are
relatively inexpensive and easy to change out.  If I were you, I would not
get my panties bundled up.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Eichten, Brent <Brent.Eichten@westgroup.com>
To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 11:33 AM
Subject: A/C Blower Problems


>I have a 71 Cutlass Supreme with A/C and have been having problems with
>the blower fan.  When the fan is turned on, it makes a loud squealing
>like it needs to be lubricated.  If I turn it off and turn it back on,
>sometimes it goes away and works fine.
>
>Is there anywhere to lubricate the blower motor or do I need to replace
>the motor?  How big of a project is this?  I was looking at it last
>night and it looks like getting to the blower is going to be a real
>nightmare!!  Are the blower motors available in parts stores?
>
>Brent Eichten
>1971 Cutlass Supreme
>brent.eichten@westgroup.com
>
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:54:59 PDT
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: AC conversion

Hi,

You can still buy r12 in Texas.  You just have to have a license.

Later,


Chris Rivier
'66 Delta 88..."The Beast"
'88 Festiva..."Zippy"  162K+@ 40 mpg, neeed I say more.

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:17:46 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: AC conversion

Chris Rivier wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You can still buy r12 in Texas.  You just have to have a license.

Chris,

I have a MVAC Technician Certificate. Do you know if anyone in the GREAT State
of Texas will mail order the 1 lb cans to me? Uh...oh yeah, how much too?  (;

Sparky
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:19:22 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse

> For a peek at a 68 Toro Limo, go to:
http://www.toronado.org/68limo.htm in the Toro FAQ.

Hey!!! That's exactly what I saw in the junkyard!  It was missing all the
front end sheetmetal when I saw it, but it looked to me like a Cutlass/Vista
front end would have bolted up.  I should have noticed the Toro
drivetrain... but I was in a hurry and didn't get to inspect it closely.  I
remember wishing I had a camera to take some pictures to show everyone.  Oh
well...

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:33:36 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Limo / Ambulance / Hearse

B. Sanders wrote:

> Hey!!! That's exactly what I saw in the junkyard!

NO KIDDIN"!

> It was missing all the front end sheetmetal when I saw it,
> but it looked to me like a Cutlass/Vista
> front end would have bolted up.

Yup! Did it have dual rear axles?

> I should have noticed the Toro drivetrain...

My guess is it had a GMC Motorhome front end configuration. Looks similar to 
the
naked eye, but a bit beefier once you really inspect it. Hard to say as even
'I' have never seem one in the flesh!!!

> but I was in a hurry and didn't get to inspect it closely.  I
> remember wishing I had a camera to take some pictures to show everyone.  Oh
> well...

Can you get back there and snap a few? I don't recall the logisitcs/time 
frame.

Sparky
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:26:06 -0400
From: Jim & Jo Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation

Keith

        The soft side goes toward the engine.

Jim Chermack

At 06:06 PM 6/30/1998 EDT, you wrote:
>This may be a dumb question, but which side of the insulation should face
>down?
>I got my insulation from year one.  There is a green/grey side that is soft,
>and there is a black side that is harder material.
>Thanks
>Keith (70 442)
>
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:20:40 -0700
From: Eric Spence <ericsp@mail.ocis.net>
Subject: Re: Where do i fill the transmission fluid ?

Do not know for sure for sure on yours, but I have always filled them down
the same tube as the dipstick is in.

Siddhartha Karkare wrote:

> Hi !
>
> For a Olds cutlass ciera ( '84 ) , where do i fill in the transmission
> fluid for the automatic transmission ?
>
> thanks in advance
> sidar
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:17:56 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: attn. 66-67 folks ......

Listees,
            Just got of the phone with a guy who lost the rear interior
panels from his 67' 442 drop top - he needs the steel tops , but will take
the whole panel - the upholsterer trashed them without grabbing the steel
section.      Any body have a set ????

                Tanks
                The General

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:18:41 -0400
From: Jim & Jo Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

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68-72 1/4 Glass Chrome Moldings (Repro)  $92.00 pr
69-72 Rear Spoiler (3 piece repro)  $255.00
70-72 Hood Pin Kits (NEW, original supplier, complete) $115.00
71or72 442 Grille Numeral Sets (repro, either year)  $34.00 set
71-72 442 Hood Emblem (repro, Non OAI) $20.00

New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts 1964-1972 Olds/Cutlass/442
64 BIG CAR (N.O.S.) RH Fender  $340.00
64-72 Clutch Inspection covers (N.O.S.)  $22.00 ea
68-72+ TH Torque Converter Cover (Plastic, N.O.S.)  $36.00 ea
66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
68-7? Under Hood Light kits (N.O.S.)  $35.00 ea
69-72 442 Trunk Numeral Sets (N.O.S.) $45.00 set
69-70 442 Hood Numeral Sets  (N.O.S.) $47.00 set
69-72 442 Fender Numeral Sets (N.O.S.) $34.00 set
70 Cutlass Supreme Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
70-72 OAI Air Cleaner Springs (N.O.S)  $5.00 ea
71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr
71-72 Headlight Housings (plastic) (N.O.S.) $80.00 pr
72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
73-77 Cutlass/442/Hurst Wiper Switch (N.O.S.)  $22.00

New arrival "Used parts"
65-67 442 Exhaust Manifold ("X" LH nice)  $110.00
Toro Oil Pan (w/HV Melling pump and pickup) $135.00
64 442 Air Cleaner (very nice original with nice top plate, want to trade
for 70-72 OAI Breather assm)
65 442 Air Cleaner Top (no base)  $125.00
66-67 442 Air Cleaner (1 nice, 1 good)  $85.00 (good)  $165.00 (nice)
67 442 Hood (very nice)  $475.00
68 442 Air Cleaner Heat tube assm (2 pieces)  $30.00
69-72 442 Air Cleaner (correct large snorkel, reg or OAI base)  $185.00
71-72 Fan Shroud (mint)  $50.00
68-69 Dash Pad (mint black, post coupe w/o A/C)  $175.00 ea
75 Hurst/Olds-442 Air Cleaner (nice)  $45.00
68-72 4 spd Pedal Assm  $55.00
68-72 Z-bar  $45.00 ea
64-66 Z-Bar  $45.00
70-72 350 4 bbl Intake Manifold  $55.00
68-72 Conv. Windshield molding set (mint)  $125.00 set
68-72 4 spd. Z bar support (bolt on) $15.00
69-72 Seat Backs & Lower Sides (nice orig, black or tan)  $100.00 set
69-70 Console Neutral Safety Switch (w/bracket)  $50.00
64-67 A/C Chrome Dash Bezels (nice)  $40.00 pr
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgates Switch Bezels (mint)  $5.00 ea
65-67 425 "D" Block std bore, small lifter bore  $85.00

New Aftermarket Parts
Competition Cams 280H Magnum cam (new)  $120.00
Competition Cams 292H Magnum cam (run 10 min.)  $100.00
66-72 Oil Pressure Sending Unit (With Gauges)  $24.00 ea
64-87 Oil Pressure Sending Unit (W/O Gauges)  $13.00 ea
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/o tilt)  *new*  $24.00
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/tilt) *new*  $22.00
70-72 455 Engine Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $32.00 pr
64-67 330 / 68-72 350 Engine Mount (NEW)  $32.00 pr
64-72 Jetaway/TH350, 4 Spd Trans Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $14.00
350/455 Oil Pump Screens (NEW)  $13.00 ea
425/455 Toro Oil Pump Screens (NEW)  $20.00 ea
STD Melling Oil Pumps (NEW)  $30.00 ea
Hi Volume Melling Oil Pumps (NEW)  $46.00 ea
330/350 10.5 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits includes Pressure plate, disc,
throwout bearing, alignment tool. (all NEW pieces)  $135.00 + $19.00 core 
charge
400/455 11.0 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits same as above (all NEW pieces)
$135.00 +$19.00 core charge
3&4 Spd. Pilot Bushing (Bronze) new  $7.50 ea
3&4 Spd. HD Roller Pilot Bearing new  $24.50 ea

Used Parts:
64 Cutlass/442
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $75.00
64-65 Spinner Hubcab (dual bar, single)  $35.00
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00
Front Bumper Core  $50.00
F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00
64-65 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (mint)  $15.00

65 Cutlass/442
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $75.00
65 Cutlass Dash Emblem (mint)  $20.00
64-65 Spinner Hubcab (dual bar, single)  $35.00
65 Cutlass 4 Door Rear Wheelwell Die cast pieces (front)  $20.00 pr
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  LH/RH rear $15.00 ea
64-65 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (mint)  $15.00

66 Cutlass/442
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $75.00
66 Cutlass-67 Cutlass/442 Fenders (Arizona parts, nice)  $500.00 pr
66-67 Dash Insert (painted)  $45.00
66-67 Inner Fender Plastic Clips $1.00 ea
66 442 Trunk Chrome Panels  $150.00 ea
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Emblem $10.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Molding  $20.00
66 Fender Eybrows (nice, no pits)  $35.00 pr
66 Spinner Hubcap (Tri bar, single)  $20.00
66 Floor Shift Steering Column Collars $10.00 ea
66-67 330 4 bbl Intake  $40.00
66-67 Clocks  $40.00 ea
66 F-85 Deluxe/Cutlass Steering Wheel Center (w/hub) $20.00
66 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblem (very nice)  $20.00
66 F-85 Deluxe Dash Emblem (nice)  $5.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Molding  $35.00
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
66 Cutlass Trunk Molding (very good)  $45.00
66 Cutlass Tail Light Bezels (very good)  $85.00 pr
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00
66-67 AM Radios (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
66 Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea

67 Cutlass/442
66 Cutlass-67 Cutlass/442 Fenders (Arizona parts, nice)  $500.00 pr
66-67 Dash Insert (painted)  $45.00
66-67 Inner Fender Plastic Clips $1.00 ea
67 442 Trunk Panel (beautiful)  $200.00
66-67 330 4 bbl Intake  $40.00
67 Deluxe Full Wheel Covers $35.00 set
66-67 Clocks  $40.00 ea
67 Cutlass Dash Emblem (good)  $10.00
67 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblems (2 very nice)  $20.00 ea
67 442/Cutlass Front Bumper Guards  $15.00 pr
67 Remote Mirror (good, not great)  $20.00
67 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (good chrome) $15.00
67 Cutlass Supreme/442 Steering Wheel Centers (mint)  $35.00
67 Fender End Caps  $30.00 pr
67 4 spd Speedometer Adapter (3.42 gears & 4spd)  $45.00
67 Plain Cutlass Holiday Hardtop interior door panels and rear sides (very
nice, blue/green) $85.00 set of 4
67 Cutlass Hood (mint)  $100.00
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $50.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $100.00 ea
67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $3.00
67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $165.00

68 Cutlass/442
68-69 442/W-30 400 Intake Manifold  $50.00
68 Cutlass/442 Backup Lens (nice)  $22.00 pr
68 Trunk Vinyl Top Molding & Plate  $25.00
68 2 bbl Air Cleaner  $20.00
68-69 Cutlass/442 Post Coupe LH Door  $85.00
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
68 Turn Signal Lens (mint)  $12.00 ea
68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $75.00
68-69 14x6 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
68 AM Radio  $25.00
68  8-Track Unit (housing cracked, needs plastic one)  $55.00
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00
Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set
68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00
68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $25.00 ea
68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea
68-72 B-Pillar Molding Sets (black, mint) $27.50 pr

69 Cutlass/442
69 Cutlass Grilles (mint LH, N.O.S. RH)  $140.00 pr
69 Cutlass Rear Bumper (nice, no pits, straight)  $110.00
69 Tail light Bezels (mint)  $150.00 pr
69 Head light Housings (mint)  $75.00 pr
69 Head light Bezels (mint)  $65.00 pr
69 Hood Tongue $20.00
68-69 442/W-30 400 Intake Manifold  $50.00
69 Convertible Trunk Lid (nice)  $150.00
69 Turn Signal Lens (nice)  $25.00 pr
69 Front Grille Center Filler (between grilles)  $8.00
69 Full Hubcaps (nice)  $35.00 set
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
69 Cutlass RH Grille (nice, used)  $40.00
69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
69 Headlight Bezels  $60.00 pr
69-72 Hood Hinges  $40.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $25.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $25.00 pr
68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $45.00 set
69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $200.00
69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $55.00 ea
69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $25.00 ea

70 Cutlass/442
70 Hood Tongue $40.00
70 Fender Eybrows (nice, no pits)  $45.00 pr
70 RH Rally 350 grille (repaired, nice)  $75.00
70 LH/RH Hood "L" moldings (few small pits under side, nice) $95.00 pr
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr
70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $115.00
70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $55.00
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea
70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00
69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00
69-70 "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $25.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $25.00 pr
70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr
70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $90.00
70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens (restored)  $17.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens (restored) $23.00 ea

71 Cutlass/442
70-71 Cutlass Supreme Side Marker Lights (mint)  $70.00 set
71 LH Cutlass Supreme Grille (nice)  $85.00
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $30.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea
71 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr

72 Cutlass/442
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $285.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $30.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00
72 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr
72 Tail Light Lens  $13.00 ea

73 and Newer and Big Car Parts:
66-67 TH425 Toro Transaxle  (switchpitch, very good)  $200.00
Late 73-74 Olds HEI distributors (non cumputer, w/cap and coil)  $45.00 ea
73-75 442 Console and Shifter (Maroon)  $120.00
73-77 Omega Floor Shift Tilt  $65.00
75 Omega Front Fenders (very nice pair)  $180.00 pr
75 Omega Bucket Seats (nice, maroon cloth)  $85.00 pr
66-67 Toronado Rear Bumper (very nice)  $150.00
66 Toro Batman Steering Wheel, Tilt/Tele column (black, very nice)  $145.00
72 Delta 88 Qtr End caps  $25.00 pr
72 Delta 88/ Ninety Eight Owners Manual (nice) $5.00
62 Super 88 Tail Panel Chrome  (good)  $25.00
62 Super 88 Grille (good)  $50.00
62 Big Car (88, 98, Starfire) Front Bumper (straight, very good)  $125.00


New reproduction parts:
Convertible Top Boots (Correct Grains for each different year)  $85.00ea
64  Black, Red, Lt. Blue, Fawn, Saddle, Turqoise, White
65  Same as 64
66-67 Black, Red, Light Blue, Med. Blue, Bronze, Turqoise, White, Gold
68-72 Black, Red, Parchment, Lt. Blue, Teal Blue, Green Gold, Gold, Pearl,
Dk Blue, Dk. Green, Lt. Green, Lt. Saddle, Dk Saddle, Olive Green, Royal
Blue, White, Sandalwood,

Molded Carpet Sets  $95.00
64-67 - (Black, Red, Med. Blue, Turquoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Maroon)
68-72 - (Black, Red, Maroon, Turqoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Med. Blue, Dk. Green,
Green Gold, Lt. Green, Teal Blue, Saddle, Sandalwood)
73-77 - (Same as 68-72 except Green Gold)

Door Panels  64-72  $Inquire

Seat Covers  64-72  $345.00 front and rear sets any year or color.

Vinyl Dash Overlays (makes your wood dash areas look like carbon fiber)
$50.00 set

Lifetime Guarantee on all correct bead window felts  $92.00 set (inner & outer)
66-67 2 dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (correct bead type)
68-72 2 dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (not Supreme Coupes, correct bead)

Replacement Window Felts (Flat type)  $60.00 set (inner & outer)
64-72 Cutlass/442 (state year and model)

Glove Box Liners
64-67 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
68-69 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
70-72 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99

Qrt Seals
70-72 Cutlass Supreme & Conv Qtr End seals  $13.00 pr

Hood Insulation
64-65 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
66 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
67 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
68-70 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner (wclips)  $18.00
70-72 Cutlass Supreme Hood Liner (w/clips)  $18.00
73-77 Cutlass $28.00

Liner Clips
Round Clips  $1.00 ea
Square Clips  $1.00 ea

A-Arm Shields
68-72 Upper A-Arm dust shields  $14.99 pr

***** 69-72 "W" and "Z" exhaust manifold sets (REPRO) Winter 98 *****
       We will be test fitting and running them later this year before they
are shipped to GM for final approval. They will be available exclusively
from C&M.
Price is around $300.00 for a set. Different date codes will not be
available at this time. Maybe in the future. Delay has occurred due to
change in manufacturer.

        66-67 "X" and "W" exhaust manifold sets (REPRO) Spring 99

***** Shift Indicators for ALL console A-body 64-75 and 63 Starfires will be
available in July/August. Including Dual Gates.

        66 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $1795.00
        67 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $995.00
        66 & 67 Track Pac kits (complete, just like the dealer option includes;
        shroud, ducts, hoses, cam/lifters, battery accessories)
Winter/Spring 98/99.

TOY'S:
69 442's (HotWheels size, Speed Rebels) Red $1.75 ea
Johnny Lightning Pace Cars
70 442 Pace Car (bronze or teal)  $3.50 ea
74 Hurst/Olds Pace Car (magenta)  $3.50 ea
79 Delta 88 Pace Car (White)  $3.50 ea

Others:
70 GTO Judge (Yellow) $1.75 ea

Models:
67 W-30 442 (Lindberg)  $14.00 ea

Odds and Ends (not Olds, but GM parts we have lying around)
68-71 Buick GS Ram Air air cleaner assm  $150.00
70-72 Buick AM/FM Stereo $150.00
71-72 Chevelle SS Emblem Kit (complete car, N.O.S. and Repro, includes door
panel SS N.O.S. emblems)  $140.00
64-65 Pontiac Chrome Valve Covers  $45.00 pr
Mid 60's Pontiac Dog Dish Hubcaps (nice)  $80.00 set

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:23:43 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: AC conversion

Sparky:

Is there a Sam's Club near you?  The one I shop at has 20 lb. tanks of
R-12. However, the price is a little steep at $450.00 per. Didn't ask
but I'm willing to bet they will ship to you.

Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Conv.

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:31:59 EDT
From: <COUPEKING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: attn. 66-67 folks ......

Mark-Just sent Blap a note about a guy in Ohio parting a '67 rag. Check with
him.
Peter

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:37:38 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: attn. 66-67 folks ......

can you give me the name and number of the guy in ohio parting the 67
convertible?? thanks

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:42:07 -0400
From: "Gib Loudon" <cutlass@mill.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation

Collyn....you are totally wrong.....black side faces engine.....soft side is
supposed to face the hood.......jeez...I thought everyone knew this!

Gib.
cutlass@mill.tds.net

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:56:07 -0400
From: "Andersons" <robertan@cfw.com>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation

I put the black side down on mine.

Another question to the restoration types- should these hood pads be glued
on?  I put mine on a few years ago with just the plastic clips, and it's
starting to sag between them.
- -----Original Message-----
From: KASOLDS@aol.com <KASOLDS@aol.com>
To: Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 6:06 PM
Subject: Hood Insulation


>This may be a dumb question, but which side of the insulation should face
>down?
>I got my insulation from year one.  There is a green/grey side that is
soft,
>and there is a black side that is harder material.
>Thanks
>Keith (70 442)
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:25:26 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation

Andersons wrote:

> I put the black side down on mine.
> Another question to the restoration types- should these hood pads be glued
> on?  I put mine on a few years ago with just the plastic clips, and it's
> starting to sag between them.

Two things:

If you are lucky enough to get or afford the embossed (OEM) hood pad,
orientation is not a problem.

Yes, I have used (and think you should use) 3M's black rubber contact cement in
areas prone to sagging. Just a small dollop between the open areas clipwise and
your troubles are solved.

Sparky

- --
Greg "Sparky" Kalkhoff                               See the Sparkmobile
Toronado Chapter Webmaster                     
http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
Toronado FAQ Page Administrator
http://www.Toronado.org

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:22:39 EDT
From: <NorsemanJP@aol.com>
Subject: how to unscribe

please can someone tell me how to unsubscribe to list I lost instructions and
going out of town so I don't want 600 e-mails Thanks

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:37:57 -0400
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation

Fuzzy side down (that's how the original was on mine), lots of yellow
weather-strip adhesive (a.k.a. gorilla snot), and plastic do-hickeys.

I eventually fixed the whole problem and got an O.A.I. hood.

- -greg

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:49:09 -0400
From: Scott Stefanich <sstefani@up.net>
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

I am interested in the 69 Cutlass convertible trunk lid for $150.  What is the
estimated shipping cost to Michigan?  Will the trunk fit a 68 Cutlass
convertible?

Thank you.

Scott Stefanich

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