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oldsmobile-digest       Tuesday, June 16 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1313



Got a beef?
Re: Year One exhaust
just poking fun
Re: pushrod ? & others
70 Ralleye 350
Re: Block code
Re: Year One exhaust
Re: Computer Controlled Distributor
Re: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me
Continuing Saga (Rockit & 73 Toro)
Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheel car
Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheel car
Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheels
Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
steering column assistance
Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
Hubcap page
Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheel car
88 Cutlass Sup Classic w/pix
Re: Problem with Wipers on 85 Cutlass
Re: Olds in movie
RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
Re: Olds in movie
Re: Year One exhaust
Olds Homecoming & Ashley Jones
Re: 69 under the bumper scoops...
RE: thanks for the Hot Wheel info
Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheels
Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
Re: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me
Re: l980 Olds 98 body parts
Re: Olds Homecoming & Ashley Jones
RE: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me
Re: 88 Cutlass Sup Classic w/pix
Re: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me
Re: Olds in movie
Re: Disc Brakes
Re: Hubcap page
Re: Olds in movie
Re: 780 vacuum sec 4 sale& other acc.
Seat Belts
Hub Caps
Re: 75 Delta 88
Re: Seat Belts
Dallas B-O-P Show - June 27, 1998
Re: Year One exhaust
RE: Computer Controlled Distributor
RE: Seat Belts
Re: Springfield Olds Nationals 1998
RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1307
69 cutlass
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1307
Ciera Hubcaps
Novice BuildUp Tip #1 - No To Goo
Re: Ciera Hubcaps
Dallas/Ft Worth Area BOP Show June 27th
Head for 371 Olds

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:53:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Got a beef?

Should any member of the list feel that my submissions are, shall we say,
lacking tact.... feel free to contact *me* about the issue. I don't mind. It
might even help me recognize when I have gone too far... not that that happens
much. Heh.

Only one j^H feller has come forth so far, and he neglected to do so
privatley.

In an effort to have some sort of Olds related content...
someone recently inquired about storage boxes for those 8 milliion little
pieces we seem to accumulate. Got a catalog at work recently... they sell all
types of plastic & cardboard shelf boxes, cabinets for them, etc. etc. As
little as 30c each for small plastic boxes, cardboard even less. I bet you can
get a free catalog for your "business" [Joe's Olds Repair, e.g.] by requesting
it.

Arrow Star
3-1 Park Plaza
Dept DV
Glen Head NY 11545
800-645-2833


- --
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1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:53:31 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Year One exhaust

>
>I am still considering headers but if I don't see a 350 cutlass convertable
>with headers at the Lansing homecoming I am going to chicken out and be
>practicle.  The other advantage of the year one package is that I can install
>this system in my driveway.  I already have removed most of the old exhaust,
>If I go to a muffler shop I will have to reinstall most of it just to drive
>over there to have it replaced.
>
>
I just had a exaust shop put dual exhaust on the Vista Cruiser for $300
including making a X-over block off and tailpipe exiting under the rear
bumper (not the "el-cheapo" in front of the rear wheel kind), so unless
you need original pipes, $269 for just parts seems
kind of expensive.
__
The old adage about "The early bird catches the worm", only serves
to prove, that the worm would have been better off if he stayed in bed .
                                                                :Lazarus Long

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:15:05 -0400
From: "-DLM-" <dmengel@nb.net>
Subject: just poking fun

Hey! just noticed that  Joe Mondello looks alot like Jerry Garcia (or maybe
i inhalled too many exhaust fumes today!)

- -DLM-
86 442 (big block coming soon!)

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:27:16 EDT
From: <GraphixRUs@aol.com>
Subject: Re: pushrod ? & others

If there is any doubt ,count 'um.
Roger

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:30:23 EDT
From: <JKreitz72@aol.com>
Subject: 70 Ralleye 350

Hey all,
I was just reliving the good ole days with a buddy of mine, and as is usual
the conversation got back to the "One that got away" stories. We started
talking again about his Ralleye 350 that he had right after we got out of High
School. The car was, we feel, quite rare in that it had the 4 speed (might not
be that rare, but maybe somebody can clear me up on that).
Anyways, he's been trying to find out what happened to the car since he sold
it around 1977. I was just wondering if anyone from around the midwest area
(we're in Waukesha County in Southeastern Wisconsin) might have any knowledge
or information on a 4-speed Ralleye that might be this car in question.
TIA
John  - 72 Hurst/Olds


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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:47:44 -0500
From: Shang <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Re: Block code

> =========================================
> Joe,
>
>     Have you or anyone out there ever seen a 455 with "F 4" on the back of 
the
> block?
>
> --
> Chris Miller
> '68 442
> Tustin, CA
> mailto:cya442@mindspring.com

The 455 I took out a '70 Toro has an "F 3" on it, that's the first time
I have seen it. My 350 has an "F 2"

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Cutlass "S"

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:17:16 -0700
From: "Randy A. Geisel" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Year One exhaust

I gotta agree with Bob. I paid $289 for a shop to do the duals on my 72
Cutlass. Custom bent (no prefab pipes, I watched the guy do it) 2 1/2" from
exhaust manifold straight back, over axles and out under rear bumper, all
welded (no clamps), x-crosser plugged and a lifetime warranty.

Randy

> I just had a exaust shop put dual exhaust on the Vista Cruiser for $300
> including making a X-over block off and tailpipe exiting under the rear
> bumper (not the "el-cheapo" in front of the rear wheel kind), so unless
> you need original pipes, $269 for just parts seems
> kind of expensive.
> __

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:44:02 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: Computer Controlled Distributor

Tom Lentz wrote:

> Are you jumping the ALDL connector before you set the timing?  You should 
be.

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass..  <G>  Can you repeat this in
lamer's terms?  I know what the ALDL is, but why jump it?
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       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:47:48 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me

Randy A. Geisel wrote:
>
> 455 crate motor........Pep-Boys has 455 long blocks for $1296 plus $200
> core charge(refunded with rebuildable core) and short blocks for $851 plus
> $100 core.

Sweet...  Does anyone know which 455 block this is modeled after?

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       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:10:20 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Continuing Saga (Rockit & 73 Toro)

Well, spent tonight trying to get motor to fire up.  Not much luck.  (I was
getting fired up from all the mosquitos and gnats and... -- My ~last~ Toronado
made them go away as soon as it fired up!!! Cleared 'em out for three blocks!
Maybe I should crank up the '82 tomorrow...)  Anyway, didn't do anything to the
distributor, still has spark (believe it or not, after 16 years of the same
rotor, cap, & wires being exposed to the weather!)  Changed plugs, though.
Dumped fuel into the carb, and splashed a bit into the intake.  Nothing.  
Dumped
a bit more into the intake, still nothing.  Third time I noticed the gas was
just pooling up in the bottom of the intake (Damn!  That's right--Toro!)
Anyway, found some ether, and shot that down there, couple sputters, but never 
a
successful firing of ~more~ than one cyl.  Noticed a couple puffs of exhaust
from the donut gasket, so perhaps that side's plugged.  Got a puff out of the
other side's tailpipe, though.  Maybe tomorrow.  I'll try to find another cap &
rotor for it.  I want to hear it run ~before~ I go through the hassle of 
pulling
it out--just in case!  The master cylinder was popped open from the crash, and
it was dry and siezed.  I think I'll stick a different one on there and bleed
out the fronts, so I can take it for a spin (just cuz, and to see how the
transaxle is.  Boots are like new, so I'd guess it's in good shape.  Don't know
for sure, though.  Anyway, more news as it happens...

- --
Philosopher's Edge:  Even a mosquito doesn't get a slap on
		the back until it starts to work...
The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana
mailto:buehner@lyrea.com or mailto:charley@rocketship.com
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:15:09 -0400
From: Shawn McCollum <shawno22@erols.com>
Subject: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

Question for everyone...

I am about to have front springs/shocks installed on a 1984 Cutlass and new
tires...Anyone know what the factory size tires were on this car??  75 R14,
p195 or P205???  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shawn


"Did you ever wonder why they call it taking a dump???  I mean, you're not
actually taking it anywhere!"
Beavis

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:23:05 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheel car

RC Hellebuyck wrote:

> Can anyone tell me what this "little classic" is worth?
>
> It's "chipless" and like new.  I'm assuming " '93 Warner" means it was made
> in 1993.

Depending on Wheels, Base, and casting..  I collect Hot Wheels..

Generally 1-4 depending on the Type of Wheels, chrome or gray base, or
Hood Scope casting...  They used the following:

- -----
|
- -----   (Straight)

and

- -----
\
 ---- (Angled)

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:25:35 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheel car

Mike Rothe. wrote:

> yellow job is not worth a lot, trust me.  However, I'm to understand
> that they aren't making them in the yellow anymore.

They still are...  And DARK Blue as well.

I just finished a Custom one in my Custom Garage...  It's Ruby Red
Metallic with white interior and Red Interior Accents....... . Also
sports some Matchbox Premium White Letter Eagles on fake real rubber
tires....  Looks AWESOME..

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                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:28:33 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheels

Charley Buehner wrote:
>
> Not quite, but I saw a '69 today.  Salesman's kid found it in his Granpa's
> house, I guess.  Red 69, OAI hood, and ~bubble light~ on the roof.  I don't
know > if it was trying to be a pace car, or a cop car, or what.  Pretty tough
shape, > though.  Didn't get to play with it much, either!  :(

Heh heh...  (Feeling special now, I actually know more about Hot Wheels
Oldmobiles than the REAL Oldses)

That would be the Cheif's Special  (I got one)  They made a cop car with
that same bubble roof...  Later it would get redesigned to look like a
Taxi Cab light, and was used as a Taxi, a Cop Car, a Fire Car, and a
Army Staff Car.  Other versions appeared, but those didn't have the
bubble.

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       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:57:28 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

> Anyone know what the factory size tires were on this car??  75 R14,
> p195 or P205???  Any help would be greatly appreciated

Actually, I think they came with either?  I know 195-75R14's and 205-70R14's
were both commonly used on them.  For factory, I'd assume the 195's, but I'm 
not
positive.  For performance, though, I'll keep my 245-60R14's.  They rub on 
tight
corners (sway bar) but they look/perform soooooo much nicer :)

> "Did you ever wonder why they call it taking a dump???  I mean, you're not
> actually taking it anywhere!"
> Beavis

"You don't ~take~ a s**t, you ~LEAVE~ a s**t!!!"  --George Carlin

OK, on to more tasteful subjects...  Like a DQ liver-flavored Blizzard
                          :@
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 02:06:45 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

Shawn McCollum wrote:
>
> Question for everyone...
>
> I am about to have front springs/shocks installed on a 1984 Cutlass and new
> tires...Anyone know what the factory size tires were on this car??  75 R14,
> p195 or P205???  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mine was factorized with 195's, but handle MUCH better on 205's..  I had
heard possible fitting anything bigger on steel wheels would cause
potential problems with RIM width.

But...  SHOCKS ARE EASY!!  Springs, I dunno..  Shocks are 3 pieces...
One nut on the top, and two bolts on the bottom, and then they drop
right out...

THIS repair alone made me confident that this PIA will be around in my
driveway for many years to come...  :)

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                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:12:39 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: steering column assistance

Local friend needs assistance here.  He's got a 65 Cutlass, and it needs a
column.  Anyone have any experience with that firewall, as to which columns 
will
go in there correctly???  I know they liked to change the mounting flange 
around
(where it bolts to the firewall) alot, so any assistance would be appreciated.
- --
The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana
mailto:buehner@lyrea.com or mailto:charley@rocketship.com
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 02:17:16 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

In a message dated 98-06-16 02:12:12 EDT, you write:

<< Mine was factorized with 195's, but handle MUCH better on 205's..  I had
 heard possible fitting anything bigger on steel wheels would cause
 potential problems with RIM width.   >>

I put factory 15" rallyes on,(off a '76(?) Cutlass) no problem at all..think
I'm runnning 215 65's or something close.....'86 Salon        Dorian

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:37:40 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Hubcap page

Anyone needing hard-to-find hubcaps???  Check this out!
http://www.hub-caps.com/

They've even got the original spokes that the Rockit came with (and were stolen
in Havre :(  IMHO, ~much~ cleaner looking than the lockers, and apparantly much
less common, as I've only seen about five sets.  Ever!
http://www.hub-caps.com/Oldsmobile/BU104057.html

Great linked pictures to just about any cap you can think of (except my 57
Buick)  Great reference page, even if you're ~not~ in the market!
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The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana
mailto:buehner@lyrea.com or mailto:charley@rocketship.com
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OldsList Vital Info: http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 02:59:42 EDT
From: <W31Sleeper@aol.com>
Subject: Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheel car

i got 1 too....but also;a 1970-442:black,w\white stripes &goodyear eagle
tires-1 of 7000 from1994 seattle toyshow....

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:00:51 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: 88 Cutlass Sup Classic w/pix

Anyone want to check this out and add any input?  (This person on the list
perhaps???)  My critique I guess would be that the picture isn't rescaled right
(looks squished) but that roof?  Is this a factory option?  What was the
"carriage top" supposed to be?  I'd seen a 79 or 80 (can't recall grilles....)
with the "fake" convertible top...  Looked, well, uh, different.  This doesn't
look too out of place, except for the windshield moulding area.   (I'm also
guessing the wheels have been changed, too.  Weren't they supposed to be those
honeycomb spoke type things???  I don't have much 88 information, so I'm paying
extra attention here...

http://www.highway-one.com/Classifieds/Oldsmobile/BakerOlds.shtml

The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana
mailto:buehner@lyrea.com or mailto:charley@rocketship.com
http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner  -- Oldsmagnet Homepage
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:03:54 -0600
From: "Igor" <todorovb@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Problem with Wipers on 85 Cutlass

A problem I had with my wipers on my Regency is that they would go up about
5 to 6 inches then down again, up and down.  Sometimes they would not shut
of either unless I killed the ignition.  The problem was a dirty electrical
conection at the wiper motor.  Just take off ALL the conections and wires,
clean them good, maybe open them up so that they have good conection, and
then reconect them and try.  Its free, takes five minutes and could be your
problem.  If not, you lost nothing.  I almost bought a new motor befoure I
checked these conections.  Good luck.

Igor Todorovic, UofC
1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 2.41limited slip)
1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the line)
1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)

- ----------
> From: Ken Swick <swickka@mail.cvn.net>
> To: oldsmobile bb <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Problem with Wipers on 85 Cutlass
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 1998 8:08 PM
>
> swickka@cvn.net
>
> Just saw problem with wipers ... similar to mine.
>
> I have an 85 Cutlass Supreme.
> When I turn on the wipers, the left one
> comes 3/4 onto drives side ... no problem.
> I can adjust that ... BUT ... the driver's
> wiper only cycles through a six inch arch.
>
> I can't find an adjustment on the arms for the
> dricer side wiper. Is there one? If not ... what's
> the problem and what's the fix?
>
> Ken Swick

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:00:01 -0600
From: "Igor" <todorovb@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Olds in movie

Don't forget that John Cusack also drived the red early '80s 98 Regency.
But of course, since it is a big boat and no Cutlass, it is less likely to
be recognized.  Just kidding.  Sometime though, I thik too much emphasis is
given to Cutlasses.  I know that they are the most influential and
practically the only performance Oldses, but there are others as well.

Igor Todorovic, UofC
1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 2.41limited slip)
1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the line)
1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)

- ----------
> From: Illini Pipeline <bfoley@ezl.com>
> To: 'oldsmobile list' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Olds in movie
> Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 12:57 PM
>
> I watched "Midnight in the garden of good and evil" last night and
noticed a red '71 Cutlass Supreme Conv. with white top.  John Cusack is
arriving in town and the cutlass passes in front of him as he walks across
the street.
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 03:13:16 -0400
From: "Angel Castrodad" <angleki@prtc.net>
Subject: RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

I got 225 60 R15 on my '86 442 and I'm thinking of going with 235 60R15 on
my SSIII rims. Has anyone out there gone with this setup? Is there any
rubbing problems at all? Franklly this is my only concern because the
handling right now is great but it'll get just too sweet!!!

Angel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of DYeager535@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 1:17 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
>
>
> In a message dated 98-06-16 02:12:12 EDT, you write:
>
> << Mine was factorized with 195's, but handle MUCH better on
> 205's..  I had
>  heard possible fitting anything bigger on steel wheels would cause
>  potential problems with RIM width.   >>
>
> I put factory 15" rallyes on,(off a '76(?) Cutlass) no problem at
> all..think
> I'm runnning 215 65's or something close.....'86 Salon        Dorian
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 00:40:32 -0700
From: "michael burlingame" <miburli@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Olds in movie

In Spike Lee's Malcom X movie Malcom is driving a 63 Olds.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Igor <todorovb@cadvision.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: Olds in movie


>Don't forget that John Cusack also drived the red early '80s 98 Regency.
>But of course, since it is a big boat and no Cutlass, it is less likely to
>be recognized.  Just kidding.  Sometime though, I thik too much emphasis is
>given to Cutlasses.  I know that they are the most influential and
>practically the only performance Oldses, but there are others as well.
>
>Igor Todorovic, UofC
>1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 2.41limited slip)
>1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
>1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the line)
>1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)
>
>----------
>> From: Illini Pipeline <bfoley@ezl.com>
>> To: 'oldsmobile list' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Subject: Olds in movie
>> Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 12:57 PM
>>
>> I watched "Midnight in the garden of good and evil" last night and
>noticed a red '71 Cutlass Supreme Conv. with white top.  John Cusack is
>arriving in town and the cutlass passes in front of him as he walks across
>the street.
>>

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 02:52:09 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Year One exhaust

Randy A. Geisel wrote:

> I gotta agree with Bob. I paid $289 for a shop to do the duals on my 72
> Cutlass. Custom bent (no prefab pipes, I watched the guy do it) 2 1/2" from
> exhaust manifold straight back, over axles and out under rear bumper, all
> welded (no clamps), x-crosser plugged and a lifetime warranty.
>
> Randy

I have to agree with BOTH Randy and Bob. I paid $425 for straight pipes (NO
crossover or muffler) in 2 1/2" galvanized steel and only Walker Turbos where
the resonators would be on the 66 Toro Sparkoshowmobile. Mellow to the MAX!

I recently did the same thing on my 67 Toro for $225: Straight pipes only (BARK
BARK), but I bent/flanged the pipes myself on my buddies machine. I paid for
the sticks only and greased his palm and bought the beer!!!!  (:

For the miles I drive, they will probably both outlast me......I'm 42!!

Sparky

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Toronado Chapter Webmaster                     
http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
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http://www.Toronado.org

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:17:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Olds Homecoming & Ashley Jones

I have a favor to ask folks attending the Homecoming in Lansing this
weekend.

Back in March, word got to some of us on the list that Ashley Jones, who
runs an operation near Lansing named Vintage Tin (used Olds parts &
sheetmetal) was selling some of the Centennial caravan flags. Some of us
sent him cheques to purchase same after talking to him on the phone.
AFAIK, no one has yet received anything so far nearly 3 months later. I
know that I'm out $50 + exchange right now, and have no idea how much
others have sent him.

Phone calls to Mr. Jones have met with little success. I was able to talk
to him once back in early May at which time he told a tale of lost
addresss, health problems, etc., and promised to ship them ASAP. So far,
nothing, and now all I ever get when I call is his answering machine,
whose messages (at least mine) never get returned. Others in the same
predicament tell me the same thing. If you are perceiving that I'm cranky
with him by now, you're right.

He is on the organizing committee for the Homecoming show, and is likely
to be there as a vendor as well. Draw your own conclusions as to whether
I'd ever buy anything from him again, or whether I'd recommend him.  :o
But in any event, if any of you see him, I'd appreciate your reminding him
that he owes me and some others either our merchandise or our money back,
and the courtesy of a phone call would be appreciated. Maybe if enough
people embarrass him he'll actually do something for those of us who sent
him money. Heck, the way I feel about him right now, I'd probably FedEx
some of you guys a supply of picket signs if you decided you wanted to set
up a line in front of his booth... ;-)

Thanks in advance, and here's hoping he does the right thing.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:07:52 EDT
From: <ANTIQOLDS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 69 under the bumper scoops...

In a message dated 98-06-15 16:31:04 EDT, you write:

<<
 I always thought the '68 and '69 setups were the same. Obviously not.
 What are the differences?
  >>
    set ups are the same way but the scoops are different sizes, not sure of
the sizes but one year is larger than the other, some of our readers, I'm sure
know the exact sizes


Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:33:27 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: thanks for the Hot Wheel info

On the Hot Wheels car, I had as a kid about 20+ years ago a 70 Cutlass,
OAI hood, exhaust tips in bumper, lights on the roof, Red Fire Chief
car.  I am hoping I still have it in a box somewhere.  I was not very
destructive to my Hot Wheels, so it should be in decent shape.  (Maybe
they were just better made then)  Has anyone ever seen this one?  Is it
something rare?  I liked it as my grandfather had a 70 Cutlass S 350
4BBL.  Sure wish I could have got the car, but it got passed on to
someone else in the family when he passed.  It had 42K miles in 1985.
It has probably been junked by now, as it got college duty from what I
heard.

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac



- -----Original Message-----
From: RC Hellebuyck [mailto:mrhell@sprynet.com]
Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 8:55 PM
To: Olds e-mail List
Subject: thanks for the Hot Wheel info


Thanks to everyone that responded to my "Hot Wheel" post.  Judging by
past
posts I knew I would get a few of you to answer back.  Some of you guys
get
into the models/toys just as much as the real cars!  8>)

Myself, I prefer the "life sized" models.  Anyway, for those that may be
curious if I got ripped-off or not......the guy had two of the same
yellow
car and was asking $.50 a piece.  So, I bought them both for a dollar
thinking they might be worth a saw-buck each.  Oh well.  Think I'll add
one
to the collection of chipped, dented, scratched and abused Hot Wheel and
Matchboxes from my youth.

The other.....?  Looks like I can triple my investment!  Now, where to
spend
that hard earned dollar.....

====================================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and many others at the Lansing Homecoming Show!  June 20th
Lansing, MI
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:44:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

There should be a data plate on the inside of your driver door that may tell
you (provided it is still readable).


At 01:15 AM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>I am about to have front springs/shocks installed on a 1984 Cutlass and new
>tires...Anyone know what the factory size tires were on this car??  75 R14,
>p195 or P205???  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:55:58 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

The 85 Cutlass had 195 75 R14, 205 70R15 (same speedo gears in trans)
and the 205 75R14, which need a slight change.  The 215 65 15's were
listed as 442 only.  This is for 85, 84 should be similar, except 442
was HO.

Mine had 195 75 14 and has 205 75 14 now.  2.14's with taller tires,
jeez, as it is 3500 rpm in 2nd is around 80 mph!!!

Then again, 5500 comes in at 195 mph........Should lose the windshield
at 170 mph anyway!  A friend of mine lost 3 that way......he was only at
4600 with 2.29 and 28 inch tall tires......


Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac


- -----Original Message-----
From: Charley Buehner [mailto:buehner@lyrea.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:57 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme


> Anyone know what the factory size tires were on this car??  75 R14,
> p195 or P205???  Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:04:08 -0400
From: super442@mindspring.com
Subject: RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

At 03:13 AM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I got 225 60 R15 on my '86 442 and I'm thinking of going with 235 60R15 on
>my SSIII rims. Has anyone out there gone with this setup? Is there any
>rubbing problems at all? Franklly this is my only concern because the
>handling right now is great but it'll get just too sweet!!!
>
>Angel
>
>>Angel,
>           My car is lowered in front (25" from wheel lip center to
ground)running 215/65/15 on front.About the same height as 235's.Handles
great.
>John
>
mailto:super442@mindspring.com
John McJunkin
1985 Cutlass------T-tops--307 H.O./3.73
1984 Cutlass------Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser wagon(G-body)--soon to be 403!!

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:32:01 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: '70 Olds Hot Wheels

Not quite, but I saw a '69 today.  Salesman's kid found it in his Granpa's
house, I guess.  Red 69, OAI hood, and ~bubble light~ on the roof.  I don't
know
if it was trying to be a pace car, or a cop car, or what.  Pretty tough
shape,
though.  Didn't get to play with it much, either!  :(
- --
The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner

   That's a 70, Charley.  It was supposed to be a Fire Chief's car (hey,
   first to the fire and all that).  I have one that I aquired years ago
   (like 20 years ago) and promptly filed the bubble off and repainted it
   red with white W-30 stripes.

   Joe Padavano
   padavano.joe@orbital.com

   66 442
   68 W-30
   69 H/O
   70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:37:37 -0400
From: Bill Gochenour <3STICKS@stjohns.edu>
Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

super442@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> At 03:13 AM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >I got 225 60 R15 on my '86 442 and I'm thinking of going with 235 60R15 on
> >my SSIII rims. Has anyone out there gone with this setup? Is there any
> >rubbing problems at all? Franklly this is my only concern because the
> >handling right now is great but it'll get just too sweet!!!
> >
> >Angel
> >
> >>Angel,
> >           My car is lowered in front (25" from wheel lip center to
> ground)running 215/65/15 on front.About the same height as 235's.Handles
> great.
> >John
> >
> mailto:super442@mindspring.com
> John McJunkin
> 1985 Cutlass------T-tops--307 H.O./3.73
> 1984 Cutlass------Moonroof--307
> 1982 Cutlass Cruiser wagon(G-body)--soon to be 403!!



I've got Goodyear P225-60 VR15's on all four on my 86 Cutlass 442 and
don't have any rubbing problems. On dry road it handles like it's on
rails and gives the car a nice footprint too. Can't say anything about
bad weather cause it's never out.

just my .02

- --

Bill !

1986 Cutlass 442 "The Perfect 10"             _           _       ___
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:43:17 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me

Randy A. Geisel wrote:
>
> 455 crate motor........Pep-Boys has 455 long blocks for $1296 plus $200
> core charge(refunded with rebuildable core) and short blocks for $851
plus
> $100 core.
Sweet...  Does anyone know which 455 block this is modeled after?
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -

   I apologize in advance if this is obvious to everyone, but please keep
   in mind that these are _rebuilt_ motors, not brand new "crate" motors.
   If they were brand new, Pep-Boys wouldn't need a rebuildable core to be
   returned.  Brand new 455s haven't been built since 1976.

   Joe Padavano
   padavano.joe@orbital.com

   66 442
   68 W-30
   69 H/O
   70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:51:27 EDT
From: <MMuss@aol.com>
Subject: Re: l980 Olds 98 body parts

Don:

I am trying to get lined up to come and get the parts on Friday.  Please let
me know if that works for you.  I would come Friday morning.  Between
graduation open houses and weddings last weekend, I wasn't able to get the
exhaust system repaired on my truck.  I should have it done by Friday.  I hope
the  Red Wings win tonight so I don't have to watch the game Thursday night.
That will free up more time.

If Friday is a problem send me an e-mail or call me.  Daytime is 517-349-6301.
At night call 517-349-9211.

Thanks,

Marty Musser

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:08:01 EDT
From: <MMuss@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Homecoming & Ashley Jones

Greg:
Send me more information on this guy.  I am a lawyer.  Maybe I can pull his
chain.  There are several avenues.  I need complete details.
Marty

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:07:29 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me

For what it is worth, I have an old paper from GM (1981) that listed
several engines that were still in inventory and GM was cleaning house.
Like a new, yes NEW, 330 for a few hundred bucks!  That is dealer cost,
not what you would pay, that is up to the dealer.  If I can find the
paper, I can try to scan it and post it so all can see.  Lots of part
numbers.  And you never know, all of it may not have been sold, it still
could be there!

So finding a NEW 455 would have to get a dealer to do some work and look
up every part number for every 455 block and major assy to see if the
inventory system worldwide has one.  I think all dealers are connected
online now.  It is possible, but like GM $$, it will be expensive.  Odd
things have surfaced over the years, so don't be afraid to have them
check.

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac


- -----Original Message-----
From: Padavano.Joe@orbital.com [mailto:Padavano.Joe@orbital.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 8:43 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me



Randy A. Geisel wrote:
>
> 455 crate motor........Pep-Boys has 455 long blocks for $1296 plus $200
> core charge(refunded with rebuildable core) and short blocks for $851
plus
> $100 core.
Sweet...  Does anyone know which 455 block this is modeled after?
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -

   I apologize in advance if this is obvious to everyone, but please
keep
   in mind that these are _rebuilt_ motors, not brand new "crate"
motors.
   If they were brand new, Pep-Boys wouldn't need a rebuildable core to
be
   returned.  Brand new 455s haven't been built since 1976.

   Joe Padavano
   padavano.joe@orbital.com

   66 442
   68 W-30
   69 H/O
   70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:16:02 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: 88 Cutlass Sup Classic w/pix

Charley Buehner wrote:
>
> Anyone want to check this out and add any input?  (This person on the list
> perhaps???)  My critique I guess would be that the picture isn't rescaled
right > (looks squished) but that roof?  Is this a factory option?  What was 
the >
"carriage top" supposed to be?  I'd seen a 79 or 80 (can't recall grilles....) 
>
with the "fake" convertible top...  Looked, well, uh, different.  This doesn't 
>
look too out of place, except for the windshield moulding area.

My guess is no...  If Olds had done it, it woulda been a slight bit
smoother up by the windshield pillar.  I've seen this done as a "Custom"
deal around here...  Saw a Saturn with that style roof...  <G>

> (I'm also guessing the wheels have been changed, too.  Weren't they supposed
to be > those honeycomb spoke type things???  I don't have much 88 information,
so I'm paying > extra attention here...

Naw, I think 88 still got SSIII chromes, the ones you are thinking of
are the Lace wheels right???

- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:17:35 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: Hookt Beig Blox workt fer me

Padavano.Joe@orbital.com wrote:
>
> Randy A. Geisel wrote:
> >
> > 455 crate motor........Pep-Boys has 455 long blocks for $1296 plus $200
> > core charge(refunded with rebuildable core) and short blocks for $851 plus
> > $100 core.
> Sweet...  Does anyone know which 455 block this is modeled after?

>    I apologize in advance if this is obvious to everyone, but please keep
>    in mind that these are _rebuilt_ motors, not brand new "crate" motors.
>    If they were brand new, Pep-Boys wouldn't need a rebuildable core to be
>    returned.  Brand new 455s haven't been built since 1976.

It's all good to me...  A fresh 455 is better than trying to track one
down around here anyday..
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:23:08 -0500
From: "Brett Wilson" <bwilson@dmotorworks.com>
Subject: Re: Olds in movie

How about the 71 convertible Cutlass in "I Know What You Did Last Summer".
It was in the parade pulling the main float.
Brett

- -----Original Message-----
From: michael burlingame <miburli@email.msn.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: Olds in movie


>In Spike Lee's Malcom X movie Malcom is driving a 63 Olds.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Igor <todorovb@cadvision.com>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:09 AM
>Subject: Re: Olds in movie
>
>
>>Don't forget that John Cusack also drived the red early '80s 98 Regency.
>>But of course, since it is a big boat and no Cutlass, it is less likely to
>>be recognized.  Just kidding.  Sometime though, I thik too much emphasis
is
>>given to Cutlasses.  I know that they are the most influential and
>>practically the only performance Oldses, but there are others as well.
>>
>>Igor Todorovic, UofC
>>1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 2.41limited slip)
>>1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
>>1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
>>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the
line)
>>1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)
>>
>>----------
>>> From: Illini Pipeline <bfoley@ezl.com>
>>> To: 'oldsmobile list' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>>> Subject: Olds in movie
>>> Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 12:57 PM
>>>
>>> I watched "Midnight in the garden of good and evil" last night and
>>noticed a red '71 Cutlass Supreme Conv. with white top.  John Cusack is
>>arriving in town and the cutlass passes in front of him as he walks across
>>the street.
>>>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:25:56 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Disc Brakes

Tony wrote:

Speeking of disc brakes,we just got done putting on disc in the front of
my drum 67 442.I didn't pay a lot either.With some minor mods,we put brakes
from a
81 cutlass on it.
^^^^^^^^^^

   Tony, be very careful here.  My understanding is that the 73 and later
   cars use a different ball joint taper than the 72 and earlier cars.
   While these later spindles will physically bolt up, the taper will only
   contact at one end or the other, as opposed to contacting over the
   entire length of the taper as designed.  This results in bending of the
   ball joint stud under load, which can lead to metal fatigue and
   ultimately failure (as in the spindle exits the car in the middle of a
   high speed turn).  I seem to recall that virtually all mid-70s and later
   GM RWD cars use the same ball joints, but these are different from those
   on the 64-72 A-body cars (for example, the 70-81 F-body, 73-77 A-body,
   and 77-up B-body use the same part no. upper and lower ball joints - not
   sure about the other RWD cars, in particular, I don't know if this
   applies to the G-body cars).  This is why H.O. Racing (RIP), Hotchkis,
   and Global West all sell or sold kits for installing these later
   spindles on the early cars that include new upper and lower ball joints
   with the appropriate tapers.  As a data point, the 73-up lower ball
   joint is used in the 64-72 application by machining down the portion of
   the ball joint housing that fits into the lower A-arm to 2.010".  I
   think the 73 upper ball joint can be used in the early arms as-is, but
   I'm not sure about that one.  Note also that the later spindles are
   taller than the 64-72 spindles, which is good in that it improves the
   front end geometry for better handling but it's also bad because you
   must run an excessive amount of upper control arm shim to get the
   alignment correct.  That's why Hotchkis and Global West also sell their
   shorter upper A-arms.

   Please be extra careful on this one to ensure that the tapers match, as
   it's a definite safety issue.

   Joe Padavano
   padavano.joe@orbital.com

   66 442
   68 W-30
   69 H/O
   70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:28:59 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hubcap page

>i have a set of (three) olds hub caps that are not on his page
i fond thame in the trunk of my 75 delta 88 and thae dont go on it!
if anyone can help ,i have never seen thame befor.




>Anyone needing hard-to-find hubcaps???  Check this out!
>http://www.hub-caps.com/
>
>They've even got the original spokes that the Rockit came with (and
were stolen
>in Havre :(  IMHO, ~much~ cleaner looking than the lockers, and
apparantly much
>less common, as I've only seen about five sets.  Ever!
>http://www.hub-caps.com/Oldsmobile/BU104057.html
>
>Great linked pictures to just about any cap you can think of (except my
57
>Buick)  Great reference page, even if you're ~not~ in the market!
>--
>The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana
>mailto:buehner@lyrea.com or mailto:charley@rocketship.com
>http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner  -- Oldsmagnet Homepage
>OldsList Vital Info: http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm
>


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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:33:43 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: Olds in movie

Brett Wilson wrote:
>
> How about the 71 convertible Cutlass in "I Know What You Did Last Summer".
> It was in the parade pulling the main float.
> Brett

Whoa, it looks like I am gonna hafta rewatch it...  I wasn't paying
attention to the car in the movie...  Was watching, well.....  We know.
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:47:42 EDT
From: <AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 780 vacuum sec 4 sale& other acc.

In a message dated 98-06-15 12:57:34 EDT, you write:

<< I'm  interested , what  city / state  are you  in ? >>
NY Long Island. The carb and jets were just sold sending them UPS.

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:58:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Seat Belts

     Anybody know where I can get seat belt parts for a 1970 Cutlass?
I just got
my inspection rejected because 2 of my buckles are missing(the 2 that
the shoulder straps attach to).  They were missing when I bought the
car (3 years ago) and I never had a problem getting an inspection
sticker(they never checked) until this year I went to the strictest
inspection station in my state (I didn't know until the inspection guy
told me).  The color doesn't really matter, but blue or black would be
preferred(my interior is blue).  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA
    Stefan
    sgadecki@yahoo.com
    1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:00:42 -0500
From: "Johnson, Sam" <SAJOHNSON@usds.com>
Subject: Hub Caps

I've got 4 Oldsmobile hub caps that I don't want. I don't want to throw them
out so if anyone is interested let me know.  I will give them away for free.
Email me directly please.

Thanks


===========================
Sam E. Johnson, JR.
Cutlass403@ameritech.net
1971 Cutlass S 455
Westside! Chitown IL
Bulls Win!  Bulls Win
===========================

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:13:32 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 75 Delta 88

Mark-
What is ther availability of parts for the Delta in the Ohio area. In New
Jersey, most of the boneyards have only cars of the eighty's. I'm looking for
rear quarters(of course) and any interior  (seats, dash etc.) parts you might
see.
Thanks,
Bruce

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:17:46 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com>
Subject: Re: Seat Belts

I am missing the same half of the shoulder straps on my car and have not yet
got around to replacing them.  The good news is that the rear belts use the
same size buckles.  Front lap belts use the small buckles and the rear lap
belts use the larger size.  So just locate some rear belts and use them.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:19:32 -0500
From: Kevin Clark <clarkr@aud.alcatel.com>
Subject: Dallas B-O-P Show - June 27, 1998

June 27th  North Texas B-O-P (Buick-Olds-Pontic) Car Show

The annual NORTH TEXAS B-O-P CAR SHOW will be held June 27th at James
Wood Autoplex just South of Denton on I-35E (exit 462).

This years event is hosted by the North Texas Chapter of the Buick Club
of America.  Registration will open at 8:00 am, judging begins at 10:00,
and awards ceremony will start at approximately 2:00.  Entry fee is only
$10 per vehicle if received before 6/20/98, and spectators get in for
FREE.

For more information, contact Kevin @ clark@aud.alcatel.com

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:20:32 -0400
From: Ray Moriarty <rmoriarty@blairinc.com>
Subject: Re: Year One exhaust

Hi John,
I am running the Year One exhaust package on my '70 Cutlass Convertible.
The kit includes everything you need from the manifolds back. I found the
parts fit well, and the exhaust note is schrweet!

Is it a deal? That depends on your perspective. If you want to do the work
yourself, it beats the heck out of trying to buy the parts individually.

Ray
'70 Cutlass Conv.
'70 442 Conv.



At 10:38 PM 6/15/98 EDT, John wrote:
>Year One sells a complete Dual exhaust system for a 350 Cutlass 68-72 for
>$269...
>It sounds like a great deal, has anyone tried this package?

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:20:04 -0700
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: RE: Computer Controlled Distributor

You need to jump it to put the computer in diagnostic mode to keep it from
adjusting the timing at the distributor.  I've got details on how to jump
the ALDL set the timing on my web page at
http://www.ior.com/~tlentz/howto.html

Good luck!

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

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From:  Jerry Christopher[SMTP:ithefunki@viperlink.net]
Sent:  Monday, June 15, 1998 9:44 PM
To:  oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject:  Re: Computer Controlled Distributor

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass..  <G>  Can you repeat this in
lamer's terms?  I know what the ALDL is, but why jump it?

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:21:43 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Seat Belts

By the book, seatbelts are supposed to be replaced with only matching
buckle and clip, a mismatched set is not recommended.

Maybe a Mechanical Engineer can explain this better.  I know something's
are machined together, like the rifling on a weapon, (i.e. M60 Machine
Gun has matching barrel, not to be used on other weapon), but seat
belts?

Just an FYI, what the book says.

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac


- -----Original Message-----
From: David L Wyatt [mailto:WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 10:18 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Seat Belts


I am missing the same half of the shoulder straps on my car and have not
yet
got around to replacing them.  The good news is that the rear belts use
the
same size buckles.  Front lap belts use the small buckles and the rear
lap
belts use the larger size.  So just locate some rear belts and use them.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:34:59 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Springfield Olds Nationals 1998

July 15-18. Springfield Illinois at the Crowne Plaza Hotel.

I've changed my mind and will not be going to the Nationals - too many 
projects,
too little time.

I have a reservation at the Springfield Red Roof Inn for July 14-18. It's a
double, $52 a night. 3200 Singer Avenue - I don't know how far this is from the
swap meet and car show. Check mapquest.com or yahoo maps.

Before I cancel, I'd like to offer the reservation to anyone who is going. I
think they can transfer it to someone else, so let me know by Monday June 22 if
you want it. Mail me privately!
- --
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:28:02 -0700
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

That's what I've got on my '84 H/O.  They fit just fine.  The rear inside
edge of the front tire comes very close to the fender when turning away
from that particular side, but they don't show any signs of rubbing
anywhere.  Had this size tires on it when I bought the car 30k miles ago
too.

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

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From:  Angel Castrodad[SMTP:angleki@prtc.net]
Sent:  Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:13 AM
To:  oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject:  RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

I got 225 60 R15 on my '86 442 and I'm thinking of going with 235 60R15 on

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:34:34 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

Has anyone used the 245 60 14's?  How do they fit?

I want to keep the stock wheels for now, can we say sleeper?

I know a new Mustang on the way home could not keep up with me in 50-90
passing maneuvers on the back roads.  I like 2.14's!!  At 90 I am still
in 2nd!

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac




- -----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lentz [mailto:tlentz@ior.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 10:28 AM
To: 'Angel Castrodad'; 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca'
Subject: RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme


That's what I've got on my '84 H/O.  They fit just fine.  The rear
inside
edge of the front tire comes very close to the fender when turning away
from that particular side, but they don't show any signs of rubbing
anywhere.  Had this size tires on it when I bought the car 30k miles ago
too.

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

- ----------
From:  Angel Castrodad[SMTP:angleki@prtc.net]
Sent:  Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:13 AM
To:  oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject:  RE: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

I got 225 60 R15 on my '86 442 and I'm thinking of going with 235 60R15
on

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:47:17 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1307

In a message dated 98-06-13 04:14:13 EDT, you write:

<<  I have installed a wiper motor >>

Speaking of which, I installed a wiper motor in my 75 Delta 88 conv. (350) and
it goes so slow, that on high speed, it barely keeps the rain off the
windshield. This is not a vacuum system. (the only hoses There are only three
hose, one from the reservoir, the other two to the window. Can anyone diagnos
the prob?
TIA
Bruce

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:50:52 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: 69 cutlass

69 cutlass excellent condition when parked, mech fine, very little rust
$500.00
513-248-8669

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:54:27 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1307

Bruce:

 Havent run across that problem yet. Havent had a need to search for
parts yet in Cincinnati........so far so good.....keeping my fingers
crossed.

Mark

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:16:00 -0400
From: "Felix, Josh " <Josh.Felix@turner.com>
Subject: Ciera Hubcaps

     To all,

     I have two caps off of an 86 Ciera.  If anyone wants then I would
     rather give them away than throw em out.

     mail me if you want them.

     mailto:josh.felix@turner.com

     Josh
     67 Cutlass
     425 / TH400

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:13:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: Novice BuildUp Tip #1 - No To Goo

The first in a continuing series as mistakes are found

The engine is in and the only thing left is to install the intake
manifold and carb and go cruising..Well, while busy doing something else
your son/daughter/friend/spouse/significant other/drunken neighbor (take
your pick) decides that the best way to seal the intake is to use
silicone around each of the intake ports.. Not, a good idea unless you
want to coat your valves, runners, combustion chambers, pistons and so
forth with a coating of baked gooey silicone in the color of your
choice...what a mess... silicone dissolves in contact with fuel but once
baked to perfection in the  cylinder it is a bear (choose your own word)
to get off..   live and learn.. use gasgacinch only and silicone only
around the water ports.. no wonder the plugs were so fouled :-)

Al Varhus
Columbus, Ohio
http://www.infinet.com/~avar



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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:16:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Metcalfe <ametcalf@ccs.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Ciera Hubcaps

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Felix, Josh  wrote:

>      To all,
>
>      I have two caps off of an 86 Ciera.  If anyone wants then I would
>      rather give them away than throw em out.

What kind of caps?  My 86 Ciera GT has mags, but there's small round
Oldsmobile insignias about 2 inches accross that I'm missing.

You wouldn't be talking about those, would you?

_Am

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:19:29 PDT
From: "Gene Crowdis" <oldsman68@hotmail.com>
Subject: Dallas/Ft Worth Area BOP Show June 27th

June 27th  North Texas B-O-P (Buick-Olds-Pontic) Car Show

The annual NORTH TEXAS B-O-P CAR SHOW will be held June 27th at James
Wood Autoplex just South of Denton on I-35E (exit 462).

This years event is hosted by the North Texas Chapter of the Buick Club
of America.  Registration will open at 8:00 am, judging begins at 10:00,
and awards ceremony will start at approximately 2:00.
Entry fee is only $10 per vehicle early registration, $15.00 day of
show, and spectators get in for FREE.

For more information, contact Kevin @ clark@aud.alcatel.com



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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:24:08 -0500
From: Fred Huff <fhuff@swbell.net>
Subject: Head for 371 Olds

Any of you young whippersnappers know where I might find a head for a
371 CI Olds (1957/1958). We found one cracked when we magnafluxed it. It
could be repaired but would be better to replace. I am rebuilding the
engine for my 50 Olds street rod. Also are there any aftermarket master
cylinders available that might work with the brake pedal and brackets on
the 50 that accommodate front disc/rear drum brakes. We have fabricated
the front discs using the existing spindles. Looks great! May have to
redo the brackets if I can't find something to fit. Please Email replies
to fhuff@swbell.net.

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