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oldsmobile-digest        Sunday, July 12 1998        Volume 01 : Number 1363



Re: Our very own screen saver
update on claton's dilemma
Re: Our very own screen saver
Re: Indy 500 Doc's (1970): Web Page-- Ready for Downloads
Re: Finally got some pictures up
Re: New Addition
RE:Repro Mirrors (fwd)
re: Top Dawg award...
Need pully 69 400
Re: New Addition
New car-itis
Lighting problem
Re: Lighting problem
Re: to the g-body people- parts wanted
Re: Divorcing General Motors
Re: Divorcing General Motors
Re: Harmonic Balancer, 455
Re: Friday night at Milan Dragway
Re: Harmonic Balancer, 455
Carb ID...
Free backseat, anyone need it?  77 Delta 88 2dr
Re: Indy 500 Doc's (1970): Web Page-- Ready for Downloads
Matching #'s
77 Parts car
UNBOUNCE: No-cost Back Seat Available
Re: Back from road trip
Re: Matching #'s
Re: Indy 500 Doc's (1970): Web Page-- Ready for Downloads
Re: Finally got some pictures up
Re: New car-itis
Re: Matching #'s
72 cutlass diffy gears
Re: Back from road trip
Re: Divorcing General Motors
Re: Lighting problem
Re: Carb ID...
Re: Tranny lines + kick down
Re: Lighting problem
Re: Our very own screen saver
Re: Back from road trip - more driver's ed
Re: Back from road trip - more driver's ed
Speedo Gear
Re: Matching #'s
Re: Matching #'s
Re: Speedo Gear
Opinions: Re 1984 Delta 88
Re: Back from road trip - more driver's ed
Re: Opinions: Re 1984 Delta 88
Re: Finally got some pictures up
Re: Finally got some pictures up
Tranny fluid in power steering?
Re: Back from road trip
Re: Finally got some pictures up

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:29:21 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Our very own screen saver

Daniel R. Gerow wrote:
> Would anyone like a screen saver for the list
> members, or anyone interested in oldsmobiles?
> Let me know that you think of the idea

I've always wanted to see an Olds dragracing screen saver, showing several
Olds's smoking che*ies and fo*ds...Not necessarily anything fancy, but fancy's
cool too :)  Or maybe a driver's seat style random road trip?  Kinda like the
driving simulators, except without being in a Diablo...  Road keeps going by in
front of you, and speeds go up around 140 or so...  :)  Maybe a couple dragrace
runs there, too...  Every few minutes the car could change, to actually
~funtion~ as a screen saver..

Yeah, I know I'm dreaming there...  Sounds like lots of work and programming
stuff.  Don't know if that's the kind of stuff Dan's talking about or not, but
if anyone has ties to do ~that~ sort of thing...

Then again, I'd never get ~anything~ done...  I'd be staring at the screen 
saver
four hours on end....
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:56:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: update on claton's dilemma

Hello again all...

Got some more info on the two most promising prospects... the '65 Cutlass
and the '84 Delta 88...

I talked to the owner's mother of the '65... she honestly didn't know much
about it... she did say that the trunk was rusted a bit.  From what she
said it sounds like the rest of the car might be decently solid.  She said
price was $750 probably can talk owner down dep. on condition.  Got some
directions and will hopefully be able to see the car today or tomorrow...
I think I'll prob. pass on this'n but I'll get a description and more info
for those that are interested... won't say for sure until I see the car...

I talked to the owner of the '84 Delta 88.  It IS a 2dr, sunroof, says has
a fairly new black paint job (done by body shop), grey interior has a bit
of wear on driverside of bench but says isn't too bad.  Says vinyl top has
seen better days.  Says motor has a bad knock in it... he hasn't pulled it
apart to see what's up... but it will still crank.  Says is a 307.  Says
transmission is good (forgot to ask if it's an OD or  a 3 spd.).  Says has
about 160k miles on it... has been his wife's car for the last few
years... says he bought it from a dealership where it had been in the
showroom... but was driven THROUGH a plate glass window by a pissed off
customer (this was why it has a new paint job ;-)  he says that's what got
the vinyl top too.  Talked him down to $200 very quickly over the phone...
would guess that he hasn't had too many caller's on this'n.  Biggest
problem with the car is that it is an hours drive away in Virginia... and
sounds like it would have to be towed down here.  Hopefully will get to
look at this'n soon... sounds pretty interesting to me... If I get this
car... I will soon be in the market for a 455 or 425... that oughtta
motivate it... I've even got the perfect built TH400 tranny!

Will tell you all what happens...


    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     work:  GQPR12E@Prodigy.com
 |  |  |
 | / \ |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 |/   \|
  \   /      1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
   \ /          (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
    |        1980 Rover 3500 SD1
		(215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:02:13 EDT
From: <Dons5043@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Our very own screen saver

Get to it Daniel,

GO !!!

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:43:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Indy 500 Doc's (1970): Web Page-- Ready for Downloads

On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Kevin Hoopingarner wrote:
> To make things easier, I put the files on the below Web page for your
> downloading pleasure.  Remember,  these are copies of copies of copies
> and are not of the greatest quality.  Nevertheless they are very
> interesting if this is something you're into.  I would suggest to view
> these correctly, right click on the link and download the file to your
> PC then view in your favorite PIC software.  I did not optimize the
> files for WEB viewing.
>
> http://www.bright.net/~khooping/indypacecar.html

I dunno if it's just me, but these were so big they were unreadable for
all intents and purposes. IE3 could bring them up but you couldn't
navigate around very well because the screen refreshes were so slow, and
Lview Pro choked on them right away because of memory limits (I have 16MB).

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:49:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

That's a neat looking car. Is that the original Lime Green you've
repainted it? That isn't normally one of my favorite shades but it looks
nice on yours. There is a '71 Cutlass 4-door here that was that color
originally and was repainted a couple of years ago and it looks kinda ...
umm... (trying to be nice)... well, let's say it's not the color I would
have chosen. Yours looks different from it, and much nicer. Wouldn't it
be nice to pay $10 and change for the interior hood lock now, and $3800
for the whole car?

Do you have any story about why Ms. Violet bought a 4-4-2 back then?

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:51:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: New Addition

On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, James Thingwold wrote:
> What I found (and bought) is a '72 Cutlass Supreme convertible, major
> living dings and indents in 1 fender, door and quarter panel, all easily
> repairable, faded paint.  108,000 on a 350 that once we uncrossed and re
> hooked up the vac lines properly, ran good.  Trans has dirty looking oil
> and apparently doesn't shift right (guessing a new filter and fluid will do
> wonders on this).  Good interior and top mechanism that works, needs a new
> top.  Bucket seat, column shift auto, non-console car (funny looking).  New
> radiator, battery, alternator and related wiring.  Decent tires.

Hey Lisa,

How do you manage to get all these deals?!? That sounds like an excellent
project. I'm jealous. What if I give you $800 for it right now? ;-)

Seriously, congrats and good luck with it. What color is the interior?

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:53:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: RE:Repro Mirrors (fwd)

Received this directly, forwarding; reply to lbiggs@intertek.net if you
can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lou J. Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: ab348@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE:Repo Mirrors

Need right hand mirror for 1975 Cut Sup. Chrome, (not sport) 4'by51/2". Has
bevel about3/4 inch from front edge. Need show quality. Would you have any
info on getting one of these. Any assistance would be greatly apprec. P.S.
Non-adjustable
Lou Biggs        lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:17:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: re: Top Dawg award...

My vote for top dog...

I used to own a 1981 Chrysler Cordoba 2dr. with a 225 slant 6 motor with a
1 bbl. carb. and over 250k miles on it!  The car was reliable and
dependable... but gawd what a dawg... pulling out in traffic was taking
your life into your own hands!  Imagine this... this lame motor... prob.
115 horsies or so... with that many miles on it... was hauling around a
car that weighed in at well over 2 tons!

Bark the tires... yeah right... I remember trying to do a burnout one
day... I tried everything... silicon lubricant... tranny fluid... with
not even the slightest spin... it wouldn't even spin a tire in wet weather
making a sharp right turn to the floor in low gear!

You can see a picture of this top dawg at
http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     work:  GQPR12E@Prodigy.com
 |  |  |
 | / \ |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 |/   \|
  \   /      1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
   \ /          (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
    |        1980 Rover 3500 SD1
		(215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:45:20 -0400
From: Joe & Toni Artwell <tjf26@gte.net>
Subject: Need pully 69 400

I have a friend who needs a 3 grove pully that goes on the crank , car
has A/C, for a 69 400 motor. If you have one you want to sell, please
let me know.
                          Thanks Joe.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:42:14 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: New Addition

If there had been 2 of these cars, my parts buddy & I would have been arm
wrestling each other for the second one:-)


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible,  '72
Vista Cruiser, '80 GMC 1/2 ton (the youngster)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:53:43 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: New car-itis

Well Greg, my parts buddy has been griping over this 'luck' ever since I
first mentioned the car.   In all honesty I didn't expect it to be anything
at all and was (duhhh) pleasantly surprised.  What helped most is my sister
lives in retirement-ville on a dead end, no where street, so no one saw the
for sale sign and he advertised it locally which means no one was probably
interested.  We were saying if it had been down here, it would have been
gone the first day.

Its Twilight Blue (??) with a white interior (well, its gray right now).
Not too sure I like the door panels with the funky wood grain insert, and
those black dash pads look goofy. Better not complain, its the only
convertible I could afford!!   The fact it is rust free was another nice
touch.  Now I'm getting anxious to go get it and play around on it:-)




Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible,  '72
Vista Cruiser, '80 GMC 1/2 ton (the youngster)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:11:55 EDT
From: <TomW30@aol.com>
Subject: Lighting problem

  I know there are many more knowledgeable Olds people out there than me. Let
me try you out on this one.
  I have a '69 442. Recently all my parking lights konked out. The headlights
still work fine, as do my blinkers and brake lights. I checked the fuses even
though I didn't think there would be a separate one just for parking lights.
  What I'm guessing now is that it might be the actual light switch on the
dash or possibly a wire from that switch. The switch itself feels fine when I
pull it out (it stops cleanly at the position for parking lights) it's just
that nothing lights up.
   My dashboard lights also went out at the same time. Could there be any
connection between the two?
    I would appreciate any help with this problem. Thanks!!

                                          Tom

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:23:41 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Lighting problem

> Recently all my parking lights konked out. The headlights
> still work fine, as do my blinkers and brake lights. I checked the > fuses

Check 'em again with the lights on.  Not sure about 69, but many used a smaller
fuse for the park and dash lights.  If it blows you'll have the exact symptoms
you describe.  It won't show as bad with a test light, though, unless the 
lights
are on.  Common causes of repeat failure are the ashtray lights, bare wire at
stereo installation, and occasionally the underhood light.  These are problem
areas I've encounterred on various Olds's.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:02:50 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: to the g-body people- parts wanted

Hi Erik.  Sorry, but I don't have much experience on swapping seats in
G-Bodies...or any cars for that matter.

If you haven't gotten a response from Greg Pruett, you might ask him about
it.  He has a 1980 Cutlass Calais that he's putting 95 Pontiac (Grand Am, I
think) seats in.  His e-mail address is mailto:grpruett@vt.edu

Hope this helps...

Jason Adcock
mailto:jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock/

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:35:01 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Divorcing General Motors

Tom, I think you're right.  In Sunday's Washington Post (Front Page;
Business Section), there was a healthy article about GM's troubles.  Towards
the end, there was a line from some top GM exec that read something like,
"don't worry, we're not thinking of killing an entire division, such as
Oldsmobile, yet...".

Writing on the wall?

Jason Adcock
mailto:jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock/

- -----Original Message-----
From: tgstoner@umich.edu <tgstoner@umich.edu>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 1:48 PM
Subject: Divorcing General Motors


>I'm sure that GM's management would much rather kill off a division over
>letting it go independent, so I'd rate the chances for Oldsmobile ever
>doing just that about equal with the Corvair going back into production.
>
>Tom Stoner
>Oldsmobile Club of America #3943
>Ann Arbor, MI
>tgstoner@umich.edu

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:39:03 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: Re: Divorcing General Motors

Jason Adcock wrote:
>
> Tom, I think you're right.  In Sunday's Washington Post (Front Page;
> Business Section), there was a healthy article about GM's troubles.  Towards
> the end, there was a line from some top GM exec that read something like,
> "don't worry, we're not thinking of killing an entire division, such as
> Oldsmobile, yet...".
>
> Writing on the wall?
>
> Jason Adcock
> mailto:jadcock@vt.edu
> http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tgstoner@umich.edu <tgstoner@umich.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 1:48 PM
> Subject: Divorcing General Motors
>
> >I'm sure that GM's management would much rather kill off a division over
> >letting it go independent, so I'd rate the chances for Oldsmobile ever
> >doing just that about equal with the Corvair going back into production.
> >
> >Tom Stoner
> >Oldsmobile Club of America #3943
> >Ann Arbor, MI
> >tgstoner@umich.edu
Does GM make statements like that just to get outcry form the public?
How about the article in the 7/6 USA Today about stopping production on
the Eldorado and the cutlass
scott

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:40:40 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Harmonic Balancer, 455

<< I cranked my balancer to the specifed 120ft-lb torque. >>

That is vibrational damper installation, right?

As far as I know, as long as the v.d.'s crankshaftshaft mating surface (for
lack of a better term) towards the block actually extends ~1/4" or so past the
front cover oil seal, you should be fine.

The only real way to check is to pull the bolt and washer out again (yeah, I
know itis a pain!). You may be able to feel with your fingertip or a small
feeler of some sort, whether the lip at the end of the crank mating surface is
flush with the end of the crank.

OTOH as long as it is in proper contact with the crank key, the only important
thing is that no oil gets past that front cover seal.

I was just happy to get a replacement v.d. on!

KA
&SOM

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:54:05 -0400
From: "John Richmond" <richmond@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Friday night at Milan Dragway

A picture of Rob's car and others are at this web site.
http://members.aol.com/WMACHINES/site5.html

John Richmond
richmond@tir.com   or   jwr10@chrysler.com
Warren, MI
72 442/455


- ----------
> From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@mci2000.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Friday night at Milan Dragway
> Date: Thursday, July 09, 1998 12:04 AM
>
> got a picture of the 69 442 as I also have one of these and finding pics
is
> difficult trying to build a screen saver library...kk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RPTW32@aol.com <RPTW32@aol.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 8:37 PM
> Subject: Friday night at Milan Dragway
>
>
> >For those in the S.E. Mich area  there will be a few of us from the
Detroit
> >Street Rockets club hitting Milan this Friday for some test 7 tuning.
> >
> >Last time out I was warned for going 11's without roll cage and other
> >necessary
> >equip for NHRA track. (Borrowed friends BG carb which did the trick) Put
> the
> >855
> >Holley back on to see if we can get er back into the 11's again even if
we
> get
> >tossed.
> >
> >Hope to see any there that can make it.
> >
> >Rgds,
> >Rob Thomas
> >69 442
>

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:15:39 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Harmonic Balancer, 455

> v.d.'s crankshaftshaft mating surface actually extends ~1/4" or so > past the
front cover oil seal, you should be fine.

The mating surface (under the crankbolt's washer) needs to be flush with the 
end
of the crank.  The heavier torque tries to ensure a complete press-in, and bolt
stretch to keep the bolt from coming out.  The amount in insertion ~is~ a bit
more critical than it first seems.  Remember, the crank pulley bolts up to the
V.D. so any inaccuracies in placement (nice phrase, huh?) will result in
mismatched pulleys.  Even 1/8" off can be an annoying squealing problem, and of
course premature belt wear.

> as long as it is in proper contact with the crank key, the important
> thing is that no oil gets past that front cover seal.
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:40:02 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Carb ID...

Well, Yarde-ing proved less fruitful and more frustrating than I intended.

But, currently in the bucket o' carb cleaner is a Rochester "2 jet"
carburetor.

It's triangular tag says 7024110.

So it is a 1964 two barrel carb, probably jetted for 394 (or 330?) if in fact
it is from an Oldsmobile.

This particular one came out of a barrel marked "carbs".

Can anyone offer any further info?

Thanks much.

KA
&SOM

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:57:23 EDT
From: <RCKTPWR@aol.com>
Subject: Free backseat, anyone need it?  77 Delta 88 2dr

Have it in my garage, how I got I have no idea. Light blue in color, seat and
backrest, for free if anyone wants it,
Bernie

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:17:41 -0400
From: Kevin Hoopingarner <khooping@bright.net>
Subject: Re: Indy 500 Doc's (1970): Web Page-- Ready for Downloads

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Greg Beaulieu wrote:

>
>
> <I dunno if it's just me, but these were so big they were unreadable for
> all intents and purposes. IE3 could bring them up but you couldn't
> navigate around very well because the screen refreshes were so slow,> and
> Lview Pro choked on them right away because of memory limits (I have 16MB).

Greg,

Sorry about that.  I had scanned the docs in for optimum quality and not space
conservation.  I rescanned the docs & uploaded them to the web.  They are now
~300K ea.  At 28.8 it took my system ~2:30 min. to download them.  You could
also double click on the link to open them in your browser and navigate ok
although the entire document doesn't appear on 1 page.  I'm sure it can be done
but I'm no scanner expert.  I also imported the pic into MSWord and it prints
nicely from there. (less than 1 page)  LView should be able to handle the 300K
files much better than the previous files of 1.5meg.  Note that the left margin
appears to be cut off on some of the pages.  It was cutoff when I received it
as well.    I hope this works for everyone.  Please let me know if it doesn't
and I will help.

HTTP://www.bright.net/~khooping/indypacecar.html

Kevin Hoopingarner
'70 Olds 442 W-30
Findlay OH.
mailto:khooping@bright.net

>
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<P>&lt;I dunno if it's just me, but these were so big they were unreadable
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16MB).</BLOCKQUOTE>
Greg,

<P>Sorry about that.&nbsp; I had scanned the docs in for optimum quality
and not space conservation.&nbsp; I rescanned the docs &amp; uploaded them
to the web.&nbsp; They are now ~300K ea.&nbsp; At 28.8 it took my system
~2:30 min. to download them.&nbsp; You could also double click on the link
to open them in your browser and navigate ok although the entire document
doesn't appear on 1 page.&nbsp; I'm sure it can be done but I'm no scanner
expert.&nbsp; I also imported the pic into MSWord and it prints nicely
from there. (less than 1 page)&nbsp; LView should be able to handle the
300K files much better than the previous files of 1.5meg.&nbsp; Note that
the left margin appears to be cut off on some of the pages.&nbsp; It was
cutoff when I received it as well.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope this works
for everyone.&nbsp; Please let me know if it doesn't and I will help.

<P><A
HREF="HTTP://www.bright.net/~khooping/indypacecar.html
">HTTP://www.bright.net/~k
hooping/indypacecar.html</A>

<P>Kevin Hoopingarner
<BR>'70 Olds 442 W-30
<BR>Findlay OH.
<BR><A HREF="mailto:khooping@bright.net">mailto:khooping@bright.net</A>
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:24:55 EDT
From: <DKlauber@aol.com>
Subject: Matching #'s

What exactly are matching #'s on a 1970 Y-74 pace car conv.  I am somewhat
interested in a  car for sale from Fraser Dante in GA.  They faxed me all the
#'s off everything but none seem to match.  I thought the engine #'s would
match the VIN or something.  If that is what matching #'s is then this car is
not.  How much does that depreciate the value?  Thanks in advance.  David

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:30:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: 77 Parts car

Hi everyone,
         Well I went to look at the 77.Not a great car,not the
worst.The guy tells me straight body,immaculate interior.Car has
potential,if I was building one (73-77)I'd grab it for $125 in a
heartbeat.I wanted the 403,not sure,still got to check the #'s.Car has
buckets,console,tan interior.body is good but some rust.Motor has #3
bad,so they say,left head and intake off.The car is complete but more
than FROGS442 is gonna let me keep in the yard!!!!If anybody is
interested let me know.
     So to say the least this guy's interprtation of "immaculate" and
mine are different.It's not bad,but I just don't need it.
         John




==
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index.html
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-----Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
 mailto:super442@yahoo.com


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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:43:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: No-cost Back Seat Available

Majordomo has started bouncing subject lines with the word "free" in them
(anti-spam I guess); forwarding. Hope this one works.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	<RCKTPWR@aol.com>
Subject: Free backseat, anyone need it?  77 Delta 88 2dr

Have it in my garage, how I got I have no idea. Light blue in color, seat and
backrest, for free if anyone wants it,
Bernie

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:10:40 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip

At 10:27 AM 7/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I do not know what the laws are in your state, but in BC Canada, it says
that you
>will travel in the RIGHT lane unless passing.  Driving in the left lane
unless you
>have to is an invitation to more head on accidents where the opposing traffic
>lanes do not have any dividers or media.

we were discussing on a multi-lane highway, not a back road.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:04 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Matching #'s

the engine numbers dont necessarily match the vin they are only stamped on
the oil tubeand the code is on tape attached to the fill tube
your vin should begin with 344670M  then the seq build number
the engine should type E heads the cowl tag should match the vin
with Y-74 embossed in it and it can have the 455 non W-30 or the 350
non W-31 no red wells and can be cutlass or 442 this makes documentation
very important the car should also have the ram air hood bucket seats and
console also the majority were cutlass
the hurst shifter may or may not be present hope this helps

- -----Original Message-----
From: DKlauber@aol.com <DKlauber@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 3:26 PM
Subject: Matching #'s


>What exactly are matching #'s on a 1970 Y-74 pace car conv.  I am somewhat
>interested in a  car for sale from Fraser Dante in GA.  They faxed me all
the
>#'s off everything but none seem to match.  I thought the engine #'s would
>match the VIN or something.  If that is what matching #'s is then this car
is
>not.  How much does that depreciate the value?  Thanks in advance.  David

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:27:51 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Indy 500 Doc's (1970): Web Page-- Ready for Downloads

Yea I too just for sh*t &giggles looked at these. Ummm... Me thinks is too 
BIG.

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Kevin Hoopingarner wrote:
> > To make things easier, I put the files on the below Web page for your
> > downloading pleasure.  Remember,  these are copies of copies of copies
> > and are not of the greatest quality.  Nevertheless they are very
> > interesting if this is something you're into.  I would suggest to view
> > these correctly, right click on the link and download the file to your
> > PC then view in your favorite PIC software.  I did not optimize the
> > files for WEB viewing.
> >
> > http://www.bright.net/~khooping/indypacecar.html
>
> I dunno if it's just me, but these were so big they were unreadable for
> all intents and purposes. IE3 could bring them up but you couldn't
> navigate around very well because the screen refreshes were so slow, and
> Lview Pro choked on them right away because of memory limits (I have 16MB).
>
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:30:06 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

Ever herd the '60's song "Lil old lady from Pasadena." Go grandma, Go!

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> That's a neat looking car. Is that the original Lime Green you've
> repainted it? That isn't normally one of my favorite shades but it looks
> nice on yours. There is a '71 Cutlass 4-door here that was that color
> originally and was repainted a couple of years ago and it looks kinda ...
> umm... (trying to be nice)... well, let's say it's not the color I would
> have chosen. Yours looks different from it, and much nicer. Wouldn't it
> be nice to pay $10 and change for the interior hood lock now, and $3800
> for the whole car?
>
> Do you have any story about why Ms. Violet bought a 4-4-2 back then?
>
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:36:04 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: New car-itis

Hey now, Don't rub it in.

James Thingwold wrote:

> Well Greg, my parts buddy has been griping over this 'luck' ever since I
> first mentioned the car.   In all honesty I didn't expect it to be anything
> at all and was (duhhh) pleasantly surprised.  What helped most is my sister
> lives in retirement-ville on a dead end, no where street, so no one saw the
> for sale sign and he advertised it locally which means no one was probably
> interested.  We were saying if it had been down here, it would have been
> gone the first day.
>
> Its Twilight Blue (??) with a white interior (well, its gray right now).
> Not too sure I like the door panels with the funky wood grain insert, and
> those black dash pads look goofy. Better not complain, its the only
> convertible I could afford!!   The fact it is rust free was another nice
> touch.  Now I'm getting anxious to go get it and play around on it:-)
>
> Lisa Madsen
> Anaheim, CA
>
> '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible,  '72
> Vista Cruiser, '80 GMC 1/2 ton (the youngster)
>
> Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
> My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
> Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
> Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
> http://exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:36:07 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Matching #'s

At 06:24 PM 7/12/98 -0400, you wrote:
>What exactly are matching #'s on a 1970 Y-74 pace car conv.  I am somewhat
>interested in a  car for sale from Fraser Dante in GA.  They faxed me all the
>#'s off everything but none seem to match.  I thought the engine #'s would
>match the VIN or something.  If that is what matching #'s is then this car is
>not.  How much does that depreciate the value?  Thanks in advance.  David
>

I don't believe Olds  VIN's and engine casting #'s share anything in common.
The VIN and bodys tags will tell which engine and trim options the car has.
You can get the year of the engine from the casting #

If the engine is the right size  and year, it is most likely a matching #'s
car

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:24:33 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: 72 cutlass diffy gears

anybody have a set of 4.10 or 3.70 gears for a 72 8.5" 10 bolt it is a B or
P but C will work also thanx....kk

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:28:54 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip

that is true on an interstate as well as two lane black top the right lane
is always the traveling lane the left is the passing lane trust me I've
recieved tickets for this twice....kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Back from road trip


>At 10:27 AM 7/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>I do not know what the laws are in your state, but in BC Canada, it says
>that you
>>will travel in the RIGHT lane unless passing.  Driving in the left lane
>unless you
>>have to is an invitation to more head on accidents where the opposing
traffic
>>lanes do not have any dividers or media.
>
>we were discussing on a multi-lane highway, not a back road.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:42:33 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Divorcing General Motors

That's the kiss of death for sure!

Mark
75 D 88 C

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:24 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Lighting problem

Are you sure you checked ALL the fueses? I had a similar problem like this
happen and checked my fuses and saw nothing out of the oradnary. I wracked my
brain for days checking every thing twice. As a last resort I thought I'd 
better
look at the fuses again just to put my mind at ease.   Sure enough theres this
little teeny,tiny fuse tucked in with all the other ones, took it out, replaced
the little bugger,  and "VIOLA" ,I got my dash lites back.

TomW30@aol.com wrote:

>   I know there are many more knowledgeable Olds people out there than me. Let
> me try you out on this one.
>   I have a '69 442. Recently all my parking lights konked out. The headlights
> still work fine, as do my blinkers and brake lights. I checked the fuses even
> though I didn't think there would be a separate one just for parking lights.
>   What I'm guessing now is that it might be the actual light switch on the
> dash or possibly a wire from that switch. The switch itself feels fine when I
> pull it out (it stops cleanly at the position for parking lights) it's just
> that nothing lights up.
>    My dashboard lights also went out at the same time. Could there be any
> connection between the two?
>     I would appreciate any help with this problem. Thanks!!
>
>                                           Tom

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:07:20 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Carb ID...

In a message dated 98-07-12 17:42:22 EDT, you write:

<< It's triangular tag says 7024110.

 So it is a 1964 two barrel carb, probably jetted for 394 (or 330?) if in fact
 it is from an Oldsmobile. >>


That carb is a CHEVY carb : )  64-66 283 AT Chev, chevelle, chev II
            Dorian

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:11:50 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Tranny lines + kick down

In a message dated 98-07-12 14:05:56 EDT, you write:

<< can I just use rubber lines from tranny to cooler to rad and back
 to trans instead of the solid ones.  My solid ones are shot.   >>
Also, since the TH250 is cable kick-down and TH400 is electric, I was
wondering what I have to do or rather where I have to hook-up the downshift
on the car.  I have the cable that went from trans to engine compartment,
but that is it.  Where does it hook-up.  Thanks.

Igor, yes, you can use rubber for the cooler lines, I did it on mine. However,
I used the factory lines from the tranny, and spliced into the input to the
transmission. I doubt it would matter that you use rubber everywhere, as long
as it didn't get too close to the exhaust. It's only around 30 psi in the
lines. As to the downshift, you don't HAVE to hook it up, but if you want to,
I believe the original switches were mounted under the pedal, I guess similar
to a brake switch. Mine still downshifts under hard acceleration, if I'm not
going too fast. I'm sure it's dependent on the amount of Torque and rpm's you
are running....Dorian

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:11:57 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Lighting problem

Try a new headlight switch.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: TomW30@aol.com <TomW30@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 4:14 PM
Subject: Lighting problem


>  I know there are many more knowledgeable Olds people out there than me.
Let
>me try you out on this one.
>  I have a '69 442. Recently all my parking lights konked out. The
headlights
>still work fine, as do my blinkers and brake lights. I checked the fuses
even
>though I didn't think there would be a separate one just for parking
lights.
>  What I'm guessing now is that it might be the actual light switch on the
>dash or possibly a wire from that switch. The switch itself feels fine when
I
>pull it out (it stops cleanly at the position for parking lights) it's just
>that nothing lights up.
>   My dashboard lights also went out at the same time. Could there be any
>connection between the two?
>    I would appreciate any help with this problem. Thanks!!
>
>                                          Tom

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:13:17 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Our very own screen saver

yea man i'd love to see it hapin.


P.S put a delta in if you can.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:15:23 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip - more driver's ed

> is always the traveling lane the left is the passing lane trust me

Agreed, as with all of the "slower traffic keep right" signs plasterred across
the country.  However, upon careful rereading of Joe's original post, it ~was~
disclosed that he was busy trying to pass the slower cars while the truck was
trying to push the process.  If I'm passing five cars bumper to bumper on the
interstate, I'm not going to run one of those cars off the road just because
some %$#@@%$# wants me to pass them faster.  ~Especially~ when you never know
when one of the other cars is going to cut out in front of you to pass the
slowest car up front.  Here in Montana, speed limit is "reasonable and prudent"
~except~ for trucks, who are limited at 60 during the day.  This causes lots of
problems for those who ~can~ drive 75 all day long.  Also, Montana state law 
(at
least used to) dictates for slow moving vehicles to pull over if they're
impeding three vehicles or more.  When read to the letter, that would include
~any~ vehicle with three or more cars stuck behind it, regardless of speed.
Don't know if that law still remains on the books, but I think of it ~every~ 
day
on the way in to work, when I have to lock up the brakes for some @$#%#$ going
40 on the highway.  Pretty bad when I have to pass five cars at once, make 'em
~all~ look like they're standing still, and never even break 65mph through the
whole process.  In Joes case, he may have been a little out of line to slow 
down
(although still passing) but it was wrong of the trucker to crowd him so badly,
especially when he's already doing his part to get out of the way.  I'd have
probably done the same thing.  Perhaps a little more aggressively.  Providing 
it
didn't interfere with the safety of the other cars on the road.  While trucks
may have a lot more weight on the line (and could push a car for miles...) they
have a little more to worry about on their driving record.  Following too
closely would be the least of his worries.  More likely careless driving,
wreckless endagerment, or vehicular assault.  Officer, the car in front of the
car I was passing started to pull in front of me, I ~had~ to hit the brakes.
~Which~ really could happen, and leave a guy no choice to hit the ditch or get
smacked.  Hitting the ditch would be safer, but automatically be "your" fault.
That truck hits you, he's out of a job.  For a long time.  Especially if you've
got a good lawyer.  Again, In Joe's case, ~was~ it wrong for him to slow down?
When faced with a tailgater, do you:
A: slow down and let him pass safely, or B: floor it and get out of his way?
Nearly all driver's education manuals and programs will choose A, because he's
~never~ "safely" behind you.  Also, the higher the speed you're travelling when
you get rearended, the worse off the accident will be.  If 55 was enough to
safely pass the other cars (which obviously was the case, since Joe ~did~ pass
the cars) then I don't think Joe did ~anything~ wrong.  Except for the Montana
greeting displayed, in some areas that's considerred a small form of assault.
I'd have been doing much more.

What makes it worse for that trucker is that large Oldsmobile banner on back.
No matter ~where~ he goes, he's representing a major corporation, and his
actions can and will be judged as those of the company.  And legally so, also.
Meaning that if he ~had~ caused an accident, not only would ~he~ be liable for
damages, ~so~ would Oldsmobile.  It wouldn't be a bad idea to call Oldsmobile 
on
the subject.

Some may recall ~my~ favorite tailgater stopper.  Drop into first (in town) and
wait till they realize it.  Usually noticable by the wide eyes and squealing
brakes.  Just before they're ready to hit me, to the floor it goes.  Scares the
crap out of the moron behind me (for not paying attention) and if lucky, you'll
find some gravel to kick up on their windows and headlights...   It'd take some
intestinal fortitude to report such an incedent to the police, too...  "Well,
officer, I was busy reading the newspaper, when I nearly ran this car over...
Don't know why he stopped, I wasn't watching the road.  But he took off just
before I hit him, and chipped my paint from road debris"  Imagine how much the
cop would laugh at him...  Heh heh.  Don't worry, I don't make a habit of that.
Just on the ones that are so ~obviously~ oblivious to what's going on around
them.  They wake up.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:23:08 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Back from road trip - more driver's ed

BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.....

Oldsmagnet wrote:

> > is always the traveling lane the left is the passing lane trust me
>
> Agreed, as with all of the "slower traffic keep right" signs plasterred 
across
> the country.  However, upon careful rereading of Joe's original post, it 
~was~
> disclosed that he was busy trying to pass the slower cars while the truck was
> trying to push the process.  If I'm passing five cars bumper to bumper on the
> interstate, I'm not going to run one of those cars off the road just because
> some %$#@@%$# wants me to pass them faster.  ~Especially~ when you never know
> when one of the other cars is going to cut out in front of you to pass the
> slowest car up front.  Here in Montana, speed limit is "reasonable and
prudent" > ~except~ for trucks, who are limited at 60 during the day.  This
causes lots of > problems for those who ~can~ drive 75 all day long.  Also,
Montana state law (at > least used to) dictates for slow moving vehicles to 
pull
over if they're > impeding three vehicles or more.  When read to the letter,
that would include > ~any~ vehicle with three or more cars stuck behind it,
regardless of speed. > Don't know if that law still remains on the books, but I
think of it ~every~ day > on the way in to work, when I have to lock up the
brakes for some @$#%#$ going > 40 on the highway.  Pretty bad when I have to
pass five cars at once, make 'em > ~all~ look like they're standing still, and
never even break 65mph through the > whole process.  In Joes case, he may have
been a little out of line to slow down > (although still passing) but it was
wrong of the trucker to crowd him so badly, > especially when he's already 
doing
his part to get out of the way.  I'd have > probably done the same thing.
Perhaps a little more aggressively.  Providing it > didn't interfere with the
safety of the other cars on the road.  While trucks > may have a lot more 
weight
on the line (and could push a car for miles...) they > have a little more to
worry about on their driving record.  Following too > closely would be the 
least
of his worries.  More likely careless driving, > wreckless endagerment, or
vehicular assault.  Officer, the car in front of the > car I was passing 
started
to pull in front of me, I ~had~ to hit the brakes. > ~Which~ really could
happen, and leave a guy no choice to hit the ditch or get > smacked.  Hitting
the ditch would be safer, but automatically be "your" fault. > That truck hits
you, he's out of a job.  For a long time.  Especially if you've > got a good
lawyer.  Again, In Joe's case, ~was~ it wrong for him to slow down? > When 
faced
with a tailgater, do you: > A: slow down and let him pass safely, or B: floor 
it
and get out of his way? > Nearly all driver's education manuals and programs
will choose A, because he's > ~never~ "safely" behind you.  Also, the higher 
the
speed you're travelling when > you get rearended, the worse off the accident
will be.  If 55 was enough to > safely pass the other cars (which obviously was
the case, since Joe ~did~ pass > the cars) then I don't think Joe did 
~anything~
wrong.  Except for the Montana > greeting displayed, in some areas that's
considerred a small form of assault. > I'd have been doing much more. > > What
makes it worse for that trucker is that large Oldsmobile banner on back. > No
matter ~where~ he goes, he's representing a major corporation, and his > 
actions
can and will be judged as those of the company.  And legally so, also. > 
Meaning
that if he ~had~ caused an accident, not only would ~he~ be liable for >
damages, ~so~ would Oldsmobile.  It wouldn't be a bad idea to call Oldsmobile 
on >
the subject. > > Some may recall ~my~ favorite tailgater stopper.  Drop into
first (in town) and > wait till they realize it.  Usually noticable by the wide
eyes and squealing > brakes.  Just before they're ready to hit me, to the floor
it goes.  Scares the > crap out of the moron behind me (for not paying
attention) and if lucky, you'll > find some gravel to kick up on their windows
and headlights...   It'd take some > intestinal fortitude to report such an
incedent to the police, too...  "Well, > officer, I was busy reading the
newspaper, when I nearly ran this car over... > Don't know why he stopped, I
wasn't watching the road.  But he took off just > before I hit him, and chipped
my paint from road debris"  Imagine how much the > cop would laugh at him...
Heh heh.  Don't worry, I don't make a habit of that. > Just on the ones that 
are
so ~obviously~ oblivious to what's going on around > them.  They wake up. > >
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 98 19:30:40 EDT
From: "Mike Charron" <charronm@ncinter.net>
Subject: Speedo Gear

Hi everyone,

I need some help finding a speedometer gear.

I've got a '68 Cutlass S, in which (among other mods) I swapped both the tranny
(2 speed "jetaway" >>TH400) and the rear end (2.78 >> 3.08).  Now I'm looking
for a speedometer gear that will match the two together.  Right now I clock
60mph when the dial is reading 80.

I don't know if this gear is compatible with the same from a TH300--or if there
is a table anywhere in existence that could tell me the correct part I need to
match with the 3.08.

Anyone know what part I need, and where to get such a part?

Mike

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:43:18 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: Re: Matching #'s

I saw your name on the list and I just wanted to tell you how much I
like your 442, I saw it on the virtual car show, I was so impressed and
I am going to paint my 71 cut conv, and 69 cad coupe deville conv,
viking blue with white interior.  If you don't mind me asking, how much
did you pay for it from that collector?  Does he have any more that he
is willing to get rid of?
scott
71 cut conv.
69 cad coupe deville conv.
91 cut
98 yukon (for sale)

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:43:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Matching #'s

Olds engine "casting" numbers are not an indicator of a matching # car.
However, if you look closely at the driver's side cylinder head under the
x-man there is a machined pad with the vehicle serial number stamped into
it. Near the front of the head. That number needs to match to be
considered a matching # car; because it's hard to see it's easy to
overlook.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:48:58 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Speedo Gear

Mike, local trannie shop SHOULD be able to tell you what gear(s) you need. You
may not be able to get away with changing just the one gear. Dorian

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:43:44 +0000
From: ejhufnagel@juno.com (Edward J. Hufnagel)
Subject: Opinions: Re 1984 Delta 88

         Anyone have a clue as to the approx. worth of a '84 Delta 88,
105,xxx miles with a 307?

Thanks,
              E.J.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:58:06 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip - more driver's ed

Guess I'd better bring this to someone's attention.  Apparantly certain mail
programs have minds of their own, when it comes to certain quotation modes, and
clipping of redundant information.  In this instance, babyboo@pacbell.net tried
to cut out roughly 3 pages of a repeated post, and add something informative to
the subject.  However, it appears his mail program inadvertantly re-quoted all
of the cut information, and replaced his message with this.

> BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.....

Just want to suggest that we all take the time to set up the mail reader's
preferences and ~deselect~ the "dummy" function.  Maybe the server space and
digest length can then be correctly used for some more informative data.  Like
the square root of 69.  Shouldn't be too much to hope for, should it?

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:04:58 EDT
From: <HOFFAX181@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Opinions: Re 1984 Delta 88

what kind of condition is the body in i've seen 84's go anywhere between 3500
and 400 and depending on what kind of condition the body is in just out of
curiosity is it a 2 or 4 door i have an 84 delta royale 2 door that i picked
up for 600 i need to replace both rear quarters and a door

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:09:47 -0400
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

DId you notice the phone # of the dealer on the invoice??

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:18:02 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

> DId you notice the phone # of the dealer on the invoice??

I forgot to look, but I do seem to remember Helena using a 442-prefix.  Almost
enough to make me want to move there!

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:22:59 -0500
From: Albert Meyer <Olds@AustinTX.net>
Subject: Tranny fluid in power steering?

I just changed the power steering pump in my 68 98. The cap on my old pump
says "Use transmission fluid" but I have heard that you should never use
tranny fluid in power steering because of the friction material in it. Is
that true? Should I use tranny fluid or power steering fluid?
'68 98 Convertible 455 - Still looking for a parts car
Austin, Texas mailto:Olds@AustinTX.net

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:49:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip

This is barely Olds-related; however I can't let it pass. Last week when I
was in New England the driving on the interstates especially in Mass. and
Ct. was atrocious. I never saw so many cars passing on the right, using
the left lane for slow travel, and general bonehead driving. Same thing
happened to me as with Joe, and there was no way I was going to speed up
from 70-75 to 80 just to let some guy who wanted to pretend he was on the
autobahn blow past. I sometimes grumble about drivers up here but they
were nothing like this.  Lane discipline is very different up here in
Canada -- instead of the "slower traffic keep right" signs, it's "keep
right except to pass", and people do.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:28:38 -0400
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

The entire state of Montana probably takes about 3 prefixes, right?

Oldsmagnet wrote:
>
> > DId you notice the phone # of the dealer on the invoice??
>
> I forgot to look, but I do seem to remember Helena using a 442-prefix.  
Almost
> enough to make me want to move there!
>
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