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oldsmobile-digest       Saturday, June 20 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1319



RE: 350 or 455?
Re: 350 or 455?
Re: W-31 update
RE: 68-69 442 Convertible for sale...hop on a plane.
mounting bracket
Re: W-31 update
RE: W-31 update
Re: 87 Toro
Re: Shock absorbers
Re: W-31 update
RE: W-31 update
MAJOR OOPS [Was: Re: W-31 update]
'68 H/O Production Numbers
Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers
Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers
Re: Blower motors
Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers
RE: '68 H/O Production Numbers
RE: a-body water pumps
Well I'm asking Crazy Questions?
Hubcaps
RE: Hubcaps
Core Support Paint
Re: Core Support Paint
Re: Hubcaps
Re: W-31 update
RE: Hubcaps
RE: W-31 update
Parts Needed for 1962 F-85 convertible
Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers
Re: Blower motors
Late model 120 speedo's
Re: Hubcaps
Re: 1968 98 Conv question.
Re: 87 Toro
Re: Radial T/As
Chirpy Noise
Re: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale
Re: Chirpy Noise
Re: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale
Re: W-31 update
Re: W-31 update
what your car says about you
Re: what your car says about you
Re: Well I'm asking Crazy Questions?
Re: Chirpy Noise
Parts?
Electric fuel pump
UNBOUNCE: ISO '76 Cutlass Parts
Call From Ashley Jones; Thanks!!
Re: Chirpy Noise
Re: Wanted: Vista Cruiser
Re: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale
Re: Electric fuel pump
Re: Well I'm asking Crazy Questions?
For Sale
Re: 1968 98 Conv question.
70-72 horn button color question
Re: 1968 98 Conv question.
MEASUREMENTS
FS 76 cutlass instrument cluster
Stupid Sparkplug Question

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:59:51 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: 350 or 455?

Thanks!

According to the VIN guide, in 1976 there were 2 Rocket 350's, and 2
455's.

Engine Code "R", 350, 170 hp L34, Div usage "3" (Olds)
Engine Code "?", 350, 180 hp L??, Div usage "6" (Cadillac) which was the
EFI one (port?)

Engine Code "T", 455, 190 hp L74, Div Usage "3"
Engine Code "S", 455, 215 hp L78, Div usage "3"

What changed from 1975 to 1976 to lose 10 hp?  Catalytic was already in
place in 1975.

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac



- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hahn [mailto:mahahn@fuse.net]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 1:44 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: 350 or 455?


Thomas:

In 1975 the 455 L74 engine was designated "T"

The 1975 Toro 455 L78 engine was designated "W"


Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:02:49 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 350 or 455?

Mark-
thanks.
Bruce

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:04:49 -0400
From: Ray Moriarty <rmoriarty@blairinc.com>
Subject: Re: W-31 update

At 11:24 AM 6/19/98 -0700, Chris Sparks wrote:
>...I have no problem with a 455 going into a W31 or a 442.
>
>> Just my .02
>
>If we took my $0.02 and deduct your $0.02 we would have $0.00 ("Non"e
>sense).
>I know a bad pun....... :-)


Another Golden Retriever trapped in a human body!

BTW John Graybill STILL = VoiceMail

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:09:03 PDT
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: 68-69 442 Convertible for sale...hop on a plane.

FYI:

Hop on a plane?, then check out this site.

http://bestfares.com/

***********************************************
**I know of a 68 442 hardtop for sale in Indianapolis, but the guys
asking $13K for a $8K car, at least that's what Dave Wyatt, myself and a
coworker with a 72 Supreme convert. would guesstimate it's worth.  Chris
Smetana, Terre Haute, IN, work: csmetana@dowagro.com
1969 W-31, 1969 4-4-2 parts car, plus others......

***From: 	JonKrisInc@aol.com[SMTP:JonKrisInc@aol.com]
<Dang! Illinois!  Why can't there be something like this in
<<California?!?!?!? >>
>>Or New Jersey?
***********************************************
Later,

Chris Rivier
'66 Delta 88..."The Beast"
'88 Festiva..."Zippy"  160K+@ 40 mpg, neeed I say more.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:09:18 -0500
From: "Kijowski, Stan" <SKIJOWSKI@midland.com>
Subject: mounting bracket

does anyone have a spare turbo 400 electric kickdown switch mounting
bracket.
i need one for the 400 i put in the 72 cutlass supreme conv.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:08:54 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: W-31 update

> What is the cam specs on the W31, W34, and W30?
>
> I though I saw them years ago and the W31 cam seemed to be a little
> healthier than the W30.

W-31 was healthy (adv. .474/308), and was also used in the auto W-30.
So I guess it wasn't HEALTHIER in comparison, but when you stick that
same cam in the 350, it ACTS healthier.  W-30 stick shift versions had
(.475/328) which was a heckuva lot healthier.  The W34 cam was the same
as the 69 H/O cam.  .472 lift , and without all that duration, 285.
It's also the same cam as used in the standard 70/71 442 455.

Unless you are a super stickler for originality, better cam grinds are
available today for your engine.  Remember, although fairly good cams,
they didn't have all that fancy computer aided stuff back then.  Things
have changed...I personally like the W-31 cam.  Not too much, not too
little.  Of course, a good driving cam like Mondello's JM-20-22 is
really responsive on the bottom end.  Real good street cam.

As far as revised regrinds, that all depends.  Some newer cams have a
smaller base circle, plus they measure cams normally at .050" lift.
They didn't back then.  The EFFECTIVE measurements are what you want to
compare.  Comparing the new specs to old OEM, is like apples and
oranges.  However, Supercars Unlimited sells just about EVERY OEM grind
cam for your needs, if you want a stock type cam.

FWIW,
Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:21:34 -0500
From: "Smetana, Christopher" <csmetana@dowagro.com>
Subject: RE: W-31 update

>
Uhh, Mr. Sparks,
 you may have stepped into it again.  :)

>> Mr Sparks,
>
>Uh oh.  I am in trouble now.  I am being called the "M" word.  Pretty
>soona "Sir" here and there might pop up! :-)
>
>> They made less than 1000 69 w-31 cars and thousands of 442s. The w-31
>> makes much more of an individualistic statement than a 442. On top of
>
>That is cool that they are rare.  Like my sports coupe.  As to whether
>itmake a much more of an individualistic statement I don't see it.  Heck
>Cutlasses, W31, 442 all look alike.  Only the H/O of that year made a
> statement since you could visually see the hood nostrils (sorry I don't
>know
>the proper name for these things).

Well, it is a W-machine.  That's a pretty individualistic statement,
isn't it?
>
>> that, the w-31 is probably faster in a 1/4 mile than your run of the
>> mill 442.
>
>I have to disagree with you here since we are comparing apples and
>oranges.If we were to have two cars equally optioned, except for the
>engine and tranny,
>I would think that the 442 would beat out the W31.  It has more HP,
>torque,
>just my $0.02.

Apples and Oranges now.  Are we?  I mean they are all Oldsmobiles.  I've
heard from many people 'in the know' (names withheld to protect the
innocent) that my W-31 is 'a fast little car'  and would beat 'any
unsuspecting 4-4-2 owner' or it will 'run with a standard 4-4-2'  Now
I'm not saying the W-31 is superior, I'm just saying don't take the W-31
lightly, cause it will move (or so I'm told)  I've only driven my car
about 2 miles since I bought it.  And with it burning serious oil,
having a bad accel pump in the carb and a nasty exhaust leak, I don't
think it's ever been above 30 mph.  Now next spring after I rebuild the
original motor we shall see what my baby will do.  And I'm 99% positive
Mr. David Wyatt and his 70 4-4-2 4sp with 3:42 rear will give my 69 W-31
auto with 3:91 rear a good run for the money, so we shall see, as it
will be more about bragging rights of myself and Dave as opposed to
4-4-2 and W-31.  Because I will have a fresh motor in the car, while
Dave may still have the current one in his (he was planning a rebuild
last winter, but it never happened).  There's also the auto/4-sp debate,
not to mention the driver factor.  Dave is an avid bracket racer, while
I'm a novice.  I think it will also help that Dave has said he has
trouble getting traction in his car when racing.  But we could argue
this till the cows come home.
>
>> I also belive the original e-mail said that the 455 was only temporary.
>
Yes it is (see above) as I want to drive the car to Springfield.
>
Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
work: csmetana@dowagro.com

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:28:21 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Re: 87 Toro

> A know a guy near to me parting a 87 toro I thought I would post his ad and
> see if anyone is in need of anything.
> He will sell the car complete if someone is looking for the whole car.
__________________________________________________________________


What CID is the engine in this toro?????

Mike mail to krzy4evr@usit.net





 "The best way to predict the future is to create it...."

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:32:56 PDT
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Shock absorbers

<<  I am not a english teacher, but....
 **************************************************
 ...  Now the cutlass doesn't "porpus" up and down when going over
bridge
 expansion joints.  try "porpoise", as in like a dolphin... >>

PLEASE don't start critisizing spellin.  My typing is horrable eneogh
that
people on this list probably assume english is a Second Language for
this
Indiana boy.  I have always said that poor spelling is a sign of a good
engineer because the English language is not logical.
****************************************

I wad'n't sure you didit on porpoise.

Later,



Chris Rivier
'66 Delta 88..."The Beast"
'88 Festiva..."Zippy"  160K+@ 40 mpg, neeed I say more.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:37:39 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: W-31 update

Smetana, Christopher wrote:

> Uhh, Mr. Sparks,
>  you may have stepped into it again.  :)

I thought I smelled something funny! (Forward ahead to "cows coming home"
analogy) :-)

> Well, it is a W-machine.  That's a pretty individualistic statement,
> isn't it?

Any performance Olds makes a statement.  If I was offered a W31
todayI wouldn't turn it down.

> Apples and Oranges now.  Are we?  I mean they are all Oldsmobiles.  I've
> heard from many people 'in the know' (names withheld to protect the
> innocent) that my W-31 is 'a fast little car'  and would beat 'any
> unsuspecting 4-4-2 owner' or it will 'run with a standard 4-4-2'  Now
> I'm not saying the W-31 is superior, I'm just saying don't take the W-31
> lightly, cause it will move (or so I'm told)  I've only driven my car

Point taken.  Sometimes ignorance is bliss (especially on my part).

> trouble getting traction in his car when racing.  But we could argue
> this till the cows come home.

Oh when are they expected? :-)  I kinda like cows, don't ask. :-)

> Yes it is (see above) as I want to drive the car to Springfield.

Well I wish you the best.  You are better visionary than I.  To show how
smug (not intentionally) I can get, I was going to recycle Scarlet until I
realized that her flaws could be easily corrected.  Someday I post some pics
of Scarlet as she is currently.  I know I am going to get responses like
"Are you kidding, don't recycle that car!" blah blah blah.

I, like you, am excited to get the "baby" in shape.

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet  ("Baby in question")
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:05:28 -0500
From: "Smetana, Christopher" <csmetana@dowagro.com>
Subject: RE: W-31 update

>out with the alluminum intake for them in 69.   i think 69`s were lower in
>production than the 70`s.  anyways good luck with the w-31!           steven,
>w30442cs@aol.com

Yes the 69s are lower in production than 70s.  And the 68s lower than
69.  Check out my web page for some background on the W-31 option along
with production figures.  http://www.abcs.com/chris/69w31.htm
And thanks.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
work: csmetana@dowagro.com

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:11:16 -0400
From: Ray Moriarty <rmoriarty@blairinc.com>
Subject: MAJOR OOPS [Was: Re: W-31 update]

Apologies to all.

I recently reloaded my email software and neglected to disable the send on
check feature. Anyway, I got two email headers and bodies mixed up. Before
I could finish both messages and check the addresses I was called into a
meeting. While I was away from my desk the software automatically checked
my mail and sent my response to Chris' pun to a friend and my response to
my friend's email to the list. Again, I apologize, and thank you for your
patience.

Humbly
Ray

At 03:04 PM 6/19/98 -0400, Ray Moriarty wrote:
>At 11:24 AM 6/19/98 -0700, Chris Sparks wrote:
>>...I have no problem with a 455 going into a W31 or a 442.
>>
>>> Just my .02
>>
>>If we took my $0.02 and deduct your $0.02 we would have $0.00 ("Non"e
>>sense).
>>I know a bad pun....... :-)
>
>
>Another Golden Retriever trapped in a human body!
>
>BTW John Graybill STILL = VoiceMail
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:18:42 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: '68 H/O Production Numbers

I don't remember if I already asked this, but does anyone know the
production numbers of the '68 Hurst/Olds?  A friend of mine just purchased
one (spoiled brat)and he doesn't know much about it.  He's trying to get an
idea of how rare they are.

Thanks,
Blaine

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:18:34 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers

B. Sanders wrote:

> I don't remember if I already asked this, but does anyone know the
> production numbers of the '68 Hurst/Olds?  A friend of mine just purchased
> one (spoiled brat)and he doesn't know much about it.  He's trying to get an
> idea of how rare they are.

Tell him it is not worth spit and I'll be happy to buy it from him. :-)

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:19:30 -0400
From: "Michael A. Evans" <evans1@net-link.net>
Subject: Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers

If I recall correctly, there were 515 built.....all automatics except for
the first Demmer car?

At 02:18 PM 6/19/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I don't remember if I already asked this, but does anyone know the
>production numbers of the '68 Hurst/Olds?  A friend of mine just purchased
>one (spoiled brat)and he doesn't know much about it.  He's trying to get an
>idea of how rare they are.
>
>Thanks,
>Blaine
>
>
Mike Evans
Richland, MI

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:50:48 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Blower motors

Thanks for the information. I will see what I  can do.

- ----------
> From: Jonathan Parke <jonparke@together.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Blower motors
> Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 8:17 AM
>
> >I have a 1972 Olds 442 Convt. that had factory A/C. I pulled the unit
out
> >and I have the hole where the evaporator was before on the firewall. I
want
> >to install a blower motor so I can have heat and also so that the hole
> >would be covered up. What must I buy and from whom to fix this problem?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Peter
>
> Peter,  I have '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible and it had factory A/C.  I
> soon realized that to make the complete change over to non A/C meant
having
> a big hole in the firewall, plus changing the vent box etc. under the
dash
> and the air intake on the passenger kick panel.  So I went to a junk yard
> got an evaporator off another Cutlass A/C and then cut it down so that
only
> 3 1/4" was sticking out into the engine compartment.  Then I took a sheet
> of fiberglass, cut it to fit the odd shaped hole and then fiberglassed
that
> into place.  Lastly I cut an access panel hole so that I could easily get
> at the heat control box if I had to.  I covered the access hole with
> another piece of fiberglass and screwed it in place with hex head sheet
> metal screws.  I painted the whole thing semi-gloss black.  This way you
> can use the original blower motor set up.  I realize that for those who
are
> doing detailed restorations this would not be an option, but I'm into
> creative customizing and it works for me.  If you want more details drop
me
> an e-mail.
>
> jp
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:59:21 PDT
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers

According to the information that I believe the most reliable (they
very), There were 56 sport coupes(post cars), and 459 holiday coupes
built. This may or may not include the one that was theoretically
destroyed on the way to present it.

Is your friend's car a post or hardtop?

Brent Pinkstaff
'70 Cutlass S (Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass poo)


>
>I don't remember if I already asked this, but does anyone know the
>production numbers of the '68 Hurst/Olds?  A friend of mine just
purchased
>one (spoiled brat)and he doesn't know much about it.



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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:38:06 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: '68 H/O Production Numbers

> According to the information that I believe the most reliable (they
> very), There were 56 sport coupes(post cars), and 459 holiday coupes
> built. This may or may not include the one that was theoretically
> destroyed on the way to present it.
>
> Is your friend's car a post or hardtop?
>
> Brent Pinkstaff
> '70 Cutlass S (Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass poo)

Hey, thanks for the info!

He probably wishes it were a Sport Coupe, but alas, it is a Holiday.  I just
talked to him and found out that he was already aware of the production
number.  I guess I misunderstood his question.  What he really wanted to
know was if I could find out the Vin # range of the cars that were made into
H/O's.  He wants to know what number his is in sequence.  Does anyone have
this info?

Thanks again,
Blaine

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:07:14 -0400
From: "Proietto, Fernando [Ontario]" <Fernando.Proietto@ec.gc.ca>
Subject: RE: a-body water pumps

Chris,
	when heavy duty cooling was ordered, and I can only speak from a
70-72 perspective, but I don't think it's any different for '69. The
radiator was the only thing that changed. The only difference between an A/C
and non-A/C water pump is the bearing shaft. A/C cars use more pulleys and
hence require an extra long shaft on the water pump for the A/C belt. That's
it. Both water pumps work the same. If you put an A/C pump on a car that
dose not have A/C your pulleys won't line up and you won't be able to run
the fan/alt belt. If your looking for extra cooling, use a 3 or 4 row
radiator. As for the pump, you can change the impeller but that doesn't make
much sense.

If by chance you decide you want a A/C water pump, I happen to have one.
Brand new never used. I made the mistake of not verifying and ordered a
water pump and they gave me a one for A/C. Both the same except for the
bearing shaft. Had to get another one. Painted it gold and now it sits in a
box, unused.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Smetana, Christopher [SMTP:csmetana@dowagro.com]
> Sent:	Friday, June 19, 1998 1:52 PM
> To:	'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca'
> Subject:	a-body water pumps
>
> I know this has been gone over MANY times but I'm not sure if the heavy
> duty cooling option was discussed.  If I have a car without A/C, but
> with heavy duty cooling, which water pump would I use?  The a/c version
> or non a/c version?  I believe it's the a/c version and I have an a/c
> version water pump, but I don't want to go to the parts store, get a non
> a/c pump and realize I didn't have to.  Nor do I want to install the a/c
> water pump and realize I need the non a/c pump.  Someone please help set
> me straight.  Thanks.  Also please copy me at csmetana@dowagro.com when
> you reply.
>
> Chris Smetana
> Terre Haute, IN
> work: csmetana@dowagro.com
>
> 1969 W-31
> 1969 4-4-2 parts car
> plus others

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:13:39 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Well I'm asking Crazy Questions?

SInce I've been on the lsit for a while, can I clear up some Questions?
1) What is cam-bank angle exaclty:  It's not the angle of the V of the
block, is it, or is it the angle that the cam hits the lifters?

2) How close to original are a pair of 1974 Olds Ralley rims for
placement on a 1971 Cutlass?

3) AM I right in that 68-72 Cutlass share a similiar / same body, 73-76
SHare another body?

Thanx, I've always been meaning to ask...

(Rims in question can be seen at
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/gobstop.shtml )

Eric

http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/eric.shtml
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/
mailto:rosi@dlcwest.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:43:12 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Hubcaps

Can anyone tell me what the going price would be for the wire type
hubcaps from a 1981Regency?
Thanks^

Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:49:22 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Hubcaps

Not sure, but they do look very good on a 75 Convertible!  I have seen,
you would think Olds wanted them there.....

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac


- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hahn [mailto:mahahn@fuse.net]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 5:43 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Hubcaps


Can anyone tell me what the going price would be for the wire type
hubcaps from a 1981Regency?
Thanks^

Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:15:10 -0500
From: Texas442 <texas442@flash.net>
Subject: Core Support Paint

Hello List members,

I am restoring a 1971 442 convertible.  The car is ready for the core
support.  I already sandblasted the core support, primed it and it is
ready for paint.  What was the factory color black that was used?

1. Flat black?
2. Semi-Gloss black?
3. Gloss black?

Also, I know that the Eastwood company has an "Under Hood" black.  Has
anyone used it before?  Is it any good?  Any tips are greatly
appreciated.  You can view this restoration progress on our website:

http://www.flash.net/~texas442

Thanks,
Ali

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:28:19 EDT
From: <COUPEKING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Core Support Paint

The best paint for this is GM 'eggshell black'. This is available from Year
One in gallons, but not in spray cans. I've found it locally at my paint
supplier.

Have  found this paint to be extremely variable in gloss, depending a lot on
conditions when painted. Paint works best on a warm part--put it into the sun
or into a warmed booth before painting--and then give it plenty of time to dry
in the cool.

Peter
Coupeking

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:34:35 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Hubcaps

Tom:

  I currently have wire caps on my delta but they have a small center
cap. The ones from the 81 Regency have a center cap that is 4-5 inches
across.
And yes mine look very nice.

Mark Hahn
mahahn@fuse.net
75 Delta 88 Royale Conv.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:42:32 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: W-31 update

Thomas,

Dave Smith Engineering has the original grind W-31 cam available as well as
many other applications from mild to wild, in hydraulic, solid, and even
racing roller grinds!

Call Dave or Karen at (909) 371-7040.

Take Care,

Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

P.S.: we use the W-31 specs for most of the race engine, with the exception of
cam and intake.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:43:50 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Hubcaps

There is a light blue 75 Delta convertible near where my wife grew up
that has the 81-up 98 wire caps, they look very nice on that car.  You
should try a set just for fun.  They are not original, but they are
excellent in the proportions for that large car.

I had a 76 Delta Royale, and I really miss that car.  I like the large
size.  Trips were very nice in the car.

Shame everything got so small.

Tom

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hahn [mailto:mahahn@fuse.net]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 6:35 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Hubcaps


Tom:

  I currently have wire caps on my delta but they have a small center
cap. The ones from the 81 Regency have a center cap that is 4-5 inches
across.
And yes mine look very nice.

Mark Hahn
mahahn@fuse.net
75 Delta 88 Royale Conv.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:46:58 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: W-31 update

Thanks for the info!

In the later 60's the Pontiac Ram Air IV cam was computer designed, one
of the first for GM.  Did Olds ever revamp any cam with computer design?
 The Ram Air II is similar, but not a computer designed cam.  The Ram
Air IV 400 developed a very underrated 370 hp.  The Ram Air III was 366
hp, but the Ram Air IV would rip the RA3's head off down the 1/4 mi.

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac



- -----Original Message-----
From: KS7RACING@aol.com [mailto:KS7RACING@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 6:43 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: W-31 update


Thomas,

Dave Smith Engineering has the original grind W-31 cam available as well
as
many other applications from mild to wild, in hydraulic, solid, and even
racing roller grinds!

Call Dave or Karen at (909) 371-7040.

Take Care,

Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

P.S.: we use the W-31 specs for most of the race engine, with the
exception of
cam and intake.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:02:09 -0700
From: pstevens@nwnexus.com
Subject: Parts Needed for 1962 F-85 convertible

#1:  I need a driver's side convertible top latch that I won't get
sent to the poor house for.

#2:  I am missing a part of my air filter assembly - but I am not sure
exactly what is missing.  I have the large "Rockette" cowling, but need
a lower portion of the assembly for the filter to sit in.  Right now
I have a jerry-rigged smaller filter assembly that doesn't allow
adequate air flow (and doesn't look nearly as good).

I also have miscellanious trim available at reasonable prices (front
head light bezels, bumper guards, etc.) available for the same year
F-85.

As you can imagine, it is hard finding F-85 parts, so I appreciate any
help that can be rendered.

Paul Stevens
Seattle, WA

1962 Oldsmobile F-85 Convertible "Desdemona"

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:10:06 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: '68 H/O Production Numbers

<snip> What he really wanted to
> know was if I could find out the Vin # range of the cars that were made into
> H/O's.  He wants to know what number his is in sequence.  Does anyone have
> this info?

Theoretically, the first one DID get rolled in a ditch, according to the
folks I talked to from Demmer.  And it was a 4-speed.  515 were
reportedly built, but one owner has found the number "517" on the back
of the dash walnut. Hmmmm....  The VIN#s were recorded at Demmer,
however, most of the records of the '68s have "vanished". (Thank god
that they still had most of the 69 ones)  There were about 6 68 VIN's at
one time that were on "damage from GM" reports from Demmer to GM about
problems they found on receipt.  So far, that's all that I know about.
As far as finding out the sequence #, for '68 anyway, it's a hard one to
figure.  There is NO positive documentation that I know of that you can
tell from.  The '69s used a unique tranny code, which all you had to do
is remove the "1" from the serial number on the tranny to get the
production # off the assembly line.  I'm assuming, as with the '69s, the
'68s did NOT all have sequential serial #s.  In other words, skips in
numerical sequence is quite probable.

The way they did stuff at Demmer anyway was anyone's guess.  When the
cars were parked in the lot, it didn't matter to them WHICH car was
converted first.  Say, an early VIN car could be parked in the back, a
later one nearer the shop could have been drug in and the magic
performed.  No rhyme or reason.  Most of the time, they were so busy,
that they didn't have a LOT of them waiting.....

Just some info.
Mike Rothe

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:26:15 EDT
From: <JohnMonnin@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Blower motors

In a message dated 98-06-19 10:32:00 EDT, you write:

<<  Speaking of blower motors, Yesterday I was using the A/C on Frosty and
 I wondered to  myself if the blower was working at full efficiency >>

Check your ducting first,  the air ducting has a tendency to fall off pumping
all of that cold air behind the dash instead og on you.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:40:12 -0400
From: super442@mindspring.com
Subject: Late model 120 speedo's

Hi gang,
              Have found a source for converting the 85 mph to 120mph.Need
to know who's interested.This will be a laser quality decal to cover the
scale(no KMH),we also may be able to get 140mph.Hope to have them made next
week but need an idea on quantity.
Speedo recalibration runs about $30-$40.
            If interested,let me know.
       John
mailto:super442@mindspring.com
1985 Cutlass------T-tops--307 H.O./3.73  http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass------Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser wagon(G-body)--soon to be 403!!

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:10:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Hubcaps

On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Mark Hahn wrote:
>   I currently have wire caps on my delta but they have a small center
> cap. The ones from the 81 Regency have a center cap that is 4-5 inches
> across.

Funny how personal tastes differ. I much prefer the ones with the small
centers. To me, the bigger centers make them look like those generic plastic
aftermarket wire covers (of which I have a set that was on the Delta when
I got it, 15", available real cheap!).

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:16:57 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: 1968 98 Conv question.

> >"I want to find out how many 1968 Olds 98 Converts were made."

>> "Standard Catalog of American Cars" lists 3942 1968 Ninety-Eight
>> convertibles made: this is out of 91747 total Ninety-Eights.

Since you've got that book there, ya have any figures for the 67 98cvt??

> *Sigh*.  Where are they all now??

I can account for....  One.



- --
The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana
mailto:buehner@lyrea.com or mailto:charley@rocketship.com
http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner  -- Oldsmagnet Homepage
OldsList Vital Info: http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:12:50 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: 87 Toro

The Toronados in 1987 were "compact" as compared to the earlier ones, so
it's probably a 3.8L (231 cui.) V6.

Jason Adcock
jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.erols.com/adcockjk

- -----Original Message-----
From: krzy4evr@usit.net <krzy4evr@usit.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: 87 Toro


What CID is the engine in this toro?????

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:36:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Metcalfe <ametcalf@ccs.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Radial T/As

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 Padavano.Joe@orbital.com wrote:

>    Which type of T/A do you have?  My experience in over 20 years of
>    driving T/As on the road, as well as the experience of a number of list
>    members, is that the base T/As (not the Euro or Comps) are pretty bad in
>    the wet.  I looped my 70 W-30 once when I was a little "enthusiastic"
>    off the line and I find that if I'm not careful with the application of
>    power on turns at intersections the back end will easily come around in
>    the wet.  Of course, your Cierra is FWD, so that probably helps a lot.

I'm using the Radial T/A - not quite so sporty a tire as it is more
all-purpose.  And yes, the FWD helps quite a bit I'm sure...

The damn car has understeer, so the back end isn't gonna come around
either...

_Am

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:25:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Chirpy Noise

I've got a situation with the Delta that is driving me slightly batty.
Actually, it sounds like there's a bird somewhere in the passenger
footwell. A chirpy sound whenever you drive over even slighly rough
roads. Goes away when it's damp. Is that a sign of rubber-to-metal
contact that needs lube? I've tried tightening the exhaust hangers &
clamps to no effect. Wondering if it might be a body or trans mount. Any
reports of this from other '77-up B-body owners?

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:50:15 EDT
From: <Jjhelle@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale

I have a 72 conv. Will the pump and motor for the top fit mine? If so send me
a price.

Jim Helle
Jjhelle@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:03:11 -0500
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: Chirpy Noise

Greg,

>A chirpy sound whenever you drive over even slighly rough
>roads. Goes away when it's damp. Is that a sign of rubber-to-metal
>contact that needs lube


Not quite sure what the problem may be, but it's not limited to
B-body cars. Both my '84 Cutlass and my '87 442 have had
IDENTICAL squeaks in the front the passenger side. It also
subsides during wet weather, though doesn't completely go away.
I assumed it was coming from behind the dash, although nothing
I did has ever corrected the problem. I removed the glove box
liner and grabbed everything I could, removed the blower motor
tried oiling things etc. Never thought it might be from OUTSIDE
though. I'll have to check that out too. If you find it let me know.

In the mean time...turn up the radio...it's all that works for me. :-)

- -Mark Tupper   1987 442
 mtupper@palacenet.net       http://www.cyberglyphs.com/442/

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:42:35 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale

not sure if it will fit a 72 convertible but the complete top assembly is sold
already. sorry

Brent

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:02:58 EDT
From: <W31Sleeper@aol.com>
Subject: Re: W-31 update

sounds like a plan is coming together!!!!!GoodLuck !!!!!!  and by the
way.....,
what parts are left from your parts OLDS  ?????thanks in advance....email me
at w31sleeper@aol.com  (Rob)

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:17:10 EDT
From: <W31Sleeper@aol.com>
Subject: Re: W-31 update

 thats right!!!!! ancient saying ::  think with yo' brain-not wiTh yO' moUTh
.....or you wILl hAVe Egg on Da'faCE! SO............ bow 2 thE
BRENTmeister!!!!!     L>O>L!!!

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:23:25 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: what your car says about you

Oldsmobile Cutlass: I just stole this car and I'm going to make
                   a fortune off the parts

 Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser: I get carsick driving minivans

  Oldsmobile Delta 88 Diesel: I am on the EPA's Ten Most
                   Wanted List

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:39:42 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: what your car says about you

>
> Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser: I get carsick driving minivans
>
I thought it said : I'm going hunting minivans
__
The old adage about "The early bird catches the worm", only serves
to prove, that the worm would have been better off if he stayed in bed .
                                                                :Lazarus Long

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:47:16 -0500
From: bloom@mail.gorilla.net
Subject: Re: Well I'm asking Crazy Questions?

At 04:13 PM 6/19/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>3) AM I right in that 68-72 Cutlass share a similiar / same body, 73-76
>SHare another body?

Eric, yes, the 68-72 shared many of the same looks with perhaps the 68 being
a little more unique. Some don't like the 68 that much,perhaps because of the
rear bumpers, but personally I like them a lot. The 73 was kind of by it's
self,as far as looks go, in my opinion.For alot of years I didn't like them
but now I do. The 74 shared some of it's looks with the 73, but it was in a
transition toward the 75 & 76 models, which I think are very nice looking
cars.
Just my opinion, I think all the years are restorable. My all time favs are
the 67 & 68's.
Fred K. (bloom@gorilla.net)
Tulsa,OK. area
'67 442
'67 Cutlass
		44   44  44   44  222222
		44   44  44   44   2  2
		4444444  4444444   2  2
		     44       44   2  2
		     44       44  222222
	

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:18:21 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Chirpy Noise

Some may recall my long term diagnosis of a similar squeak on the '83.  Drove 
me
nuts.  Didn't have wipers, so I don't know if it went away in wet weather...
Anyway, after completely stripping the dash etc etc etc...  Well, at long last 
I
took a 25th test drive, went around the block, noise was gone!  Cool.  Notice
hood's not latched.  Close it.  Noise is ~back~  (ARGH!!!!!!!!)  Anyway, to 
make
longer story shorter, pop the hood and drive around the block.  See if that
helps.  I spent hours under the dash trying to cure the rubber cowl
weatherstrip.  Grease 'er up a bit, should be fine.  Or it could be a metal to
metal contact somewhere, they make chirpy noises.  Can't attest to the B-body,
but G's have a seperation around the rear wheelwells that can creak and chirp.
Sometimes theres some cracking on the lower pillar area (T-top cars, at least -
don't know if it's real ~metal~ cracking, or just filler stuff there.)  Could 
be
a worn out cab mount, too.  They bolt up under your shoes down there 
somewhere.
Easy enough to see from underneath, I suppose.  I'm sure the '83 has that
problem going on.  Anyway, some things to check on, at least.


> I've got a situation with the Delta that is driving me slightly batty.
> Actually, it sounds like there's a bird somewhere in the passenger
> footwell. A chirpy sound whenever you drive over even slighly rough
> roads. Goes away when it's damp.
> reports of this from other '77-up B-body owners?

The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana
mailto:buehner@lyrea.com or mailto:charley@rocketship.com
http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner  -- Oldsmagnet Homepage
OldsList Vital Info: http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:47:53 -0700
From: "craig a. johnson" <craig.a.johnson@boeing.com>
Subject: Parts?

I'v been looking for parts for my olds cutlass "S", 1976. I am in dire
need of door moldings and window moldings and a bunch of other little
parts. E-mail at: skrewbal@earthlink.net

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:57:48 EDT
From: <CCRR12@aol.com>
Subject: Electric fuel pump

Looking for advice on installing an electric fuel pump as an auxillary unit to
the stock mechanical unit on my 57.

What is a good low pressure (under 10 lbs.) pump?

Best wiring method? I would like to have it on a switch to use only
temporarily to prevent vapor lock.

TIA

Randy in Okla
57 88 J2

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 07:11:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: ISO '76 Cutlass Parts

Not on the list; reply to skrewbal@earthlink.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"craig a. johnson" <craig.a.johnson@boeing.com>
Subject: Parts?

I'v been looking for parts for my olds cutlass "S", 1976. I am in dire
need of door moldings and window moldings and a bunch of other little
parts. E-mail at: skrewbal@earthlink.net

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:58:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Call From Ashley Jones; Thanks!!

After I went to bed last night I got a call from an apologetic Ashley
Jones. Without getting into all the details, he gave me an explanation
that I'm willing to believe for the moment at least. So for anyone at the
Homecoming show who was going to raise it with him, you can forget about
doing that now.

Thanks to the list members who helped me out!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:41:13 -0400
From: super442@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Chirpy Noise

At 11:18 PM 6/19/98 -0600, you wrote:
>  Well, at long last I
>took a 25th test drive, went around the block, noise was gone!  Cool.  Notice
>hood's not latched.  Close it.  Noise is ~back~  (ARGH!!!!!!!!)
>
>
>25th!!!!!!!..............God I can relate to that....I've learned to live
with this problem on my cars with one simple fix.Turn the radio up real
llllllllooooooouuuuuuddddd.
>                                           John
>
mailto:super442@mindspring.com
1985 Cutlass------T-tops--307 H.O./3.73  http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass------Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser wagon(G-body)--soon to be 403!!

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:32:46 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: Vista Cruiser

There was a '72 in the local Recycler ads for $1500 - missed out on it
though. What does your friend plan on doing with his old one?  We need some
parts if he decides to go that route & I'll gladly help him sell them if he
ends up doing that.

Let me know - Lisa

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 09:20:35 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale

Not to step on anyones toes but as I part the 442 convertible, the power
top system will be going forsale.

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
1970 Rallye 350 (4-sale  $900)
See the Rallye at:
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/schinkel/

- ----------
> From: Cnvrt67@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale
> Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 10:42 PM
>
> not sure if it will fit a 72 convertible but the complete top assembly is
sold
> already. sorry
>
> Brent

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:21:39 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump

Any parts store, even the Brothers Pep, can provide you with an inexpensive
electric fuel pump for less than $25.  These pumps run around the 4 to 7
pound range and have automatic shut - offs built in, so that when the needle
valve in the carb is closed, the pump will not run.  In your case, a 4
pounder would be ideal.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: CCRR12@aol.com <CCRR12@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, June 20, 1998 1:59 AM
Subject: Electric fuel pump


>Looking for advice on installing an electric fuel pump as an auxillary unit
to
>the stock mechanical unit on my 57.
>
>What is a good low pressure (under 10 lbs.) pump?
>
>Best wiring method? I would like to have it on a switch to use only
>temporarily to prevent vapor lock.
>
>TIA
>
>Randy in Okla
>57 88 J2

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:12:04 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Well I'm asking Crazy Questions?

bloom@gorillanet.gorilla.net wrote:

> The 73 was kind of by it's
> self,as far as looks go, in my opinion.For alot of years I didn't like them
> but now I do. The 74 shared some of it's looks with the 73, but it was in a
> transition toward the 75 & 76 models, which I think are very nice looking

Yeah, us 73 boys are individuals. We don't need no stinking w-25 hood,
wing or any of that cool stuff (rotten lousy Olds couldn't keep a good
thing going). I actually wish they had made that stuff for our cars, I
think my car would look cool with a w25 hood and a wing, and maybe a w31
designation. I think it might also be cool if it was a convertible, too!
BUT NOOOOOOOO! The world had to get greedy and have some stupid gas
crisis and the EPA had to stick their nose in our automobiles and tell
us they weren't clean enough and we had to lower our horsepower ratings
and slap some silly @ss EGR BS on our cars!!!!!!

(whew, off my soapbox)
Sorry folks, had to get it off my chest.

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:42:15 -0000
From: "Tim Braden" <timbra@weblnk.net>
Subject: For Sale

1961 - 1962 Cutlass F-85 parts
Complete motor & transmission (disassembled)
Various body parts
	hood
	fenders
	trunk lid
	doors
	trim
Various interior parts
	dashboard
	seats
	trim

These parts are located in Delaware in my dad's basement. I moved to North
Carolina. After storing the parts for a few years, my dad wants them out of
the house. I know it is hard to find parts for the '61 & '62's, so if you
can use any or all of the parts please email me at:timbra@weblnk.net

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:55:38 -0400
From: "Graham Stewart" <graham.stewart@utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: 1968 98 Conv question.

>>> "Standard Catalog of American Cars" lists 3942 1968 Ninety-Eight
>>> convertibles made: this is out of 91747 total Ninety-Eights.
>
>Since you've got that book there, ya have any figures for the 67 98cvt??
>
>The Oldsmobile Magnet -- Charley Buehner@Sidney Montana


Sure ...  67 Ninety-Eight convertible: 3769 made.  Total 67 Ninety-Eights:
76189

>I can account for....  One.

Sadly, none (for now!)

Graham Stewart
Toronto, Canada
graham.stewart@utoronto.ca

74 Ninety-Eight
69 Delta 88 Convertible
66 Toronado
67 Buick Wildcat

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:19:47 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: 70-72 horn button color question

for 70-72 horn buttons..............should the color match the interior (i.e.
blue interior, blue horn button) or should it just be black??????
Help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:29:30 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: 1968 98 Conv question.

Graham:

  As long as you are at it would it be too much to ask about the numbers
for my 75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible?


Thanks,
Mark Hahn
Cincinnati, Ohio

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:32:56 EDT
From: <Heiser5@aol.com>
Subject: MEASUREMENTS

I have a 71Cutlass S in storage far away from me. I want to bring it to a
nearby friend's garage, but he's confined to allowing me a set amount of
space. Would someone measure their Cutlass S for me and give me the width and
length please? I need it from bumper to bumper, etc. I would do it, but it's 5
hours away...all by itself. Thanks fellow listees..

Mark Heiser

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:03:26 +0600
From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Subject: FS 76 cutlass instrument cluster

I have an instrument cluster from a 76 or 77 cutlass Salon.  It has a fuel
gauge, oil press gauge, temp gauge, brake warning light and GEN light.  No
tach. :(  Unsure of working order but I'll test it if soemone can tell me
how, I'm pretty handy with a multi-meter.  The car it was removed from
wasn't open to weather, the windows were in place, doors closed, etc.  (The
speedo was already gone, btw.)

Cosmetically most of the chrome is fading to black, the needles have greyed
some (or were they always grey?) and the readouts are white and still look
very good, as does the black background.  The face has some minor
scratching; what I would consider a normal amount for a plastic lense from a
21 year old car; If you turn it towards the light you can see little swirly
marks.

How about $25+ shipping?

If interested, please reply privately:  mailto: grpruett@vt.edu

I am located in Southwest Virginia, Salem to be exact.  Zip code 24153

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais


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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:22:36 EDT
From: <BuchD@aol.com>
Subject: Stupid Sparkplug Question

Hello fellow list members:

Does anyone know what the plug gap should be for a '70 442 w/455?
(I can't find my service manual)
Thanks so much,
Charlie

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