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oldsmobile-digest        Monday, June 29 1998        Volume 01 : Number 1337



Re: removing back seat
Re: Stop Including Trivial Files was Re: Dashpot Explanation
71' cut conv. questions
question about big blocks
RE: Adios
Re: question about big blocks
Fwd: Selling a 64 Olds wagon in great condition
Re: headers
[Fwd: 71' cut conv. questions]
ST. JOHNS!!
Re: Adios
Re: question about big blocks
Tranny Leak- Suggestions?
Wow!!!  We had a ~real~ day today!!!
Re: Tranny Leak- Suggestions?
Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
455 engines
Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
66 Cutless Value
Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
Questions about 78 Cutlass race car.
Lockup rear brakes on G-body
Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
Re: Air conditioning
Re: Tranny Leak- Suggestions?
Re: Lockup rear brakes on G-body
Re: Stop Including Trivial Files was Re: Dashpot Explanation
Air conditioning
Re: Questions about 78 Cutlass race car.
Spark Plug Gap?
Tilt steering column parts
Yard Humor - Long
re street race
More Auto Humor
More Switch Pitch Info
Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
UNBOUNCE:
RE: 71 taillight lenses
Re: ST. JOHNS!!
RE: electronic ignition conversion
RE: removing back seat
Re: Brake Shoes: which is which
OLDS NEON (not that other little car)
Re: KREEN
Re: KREEN
AC conversion
Re: Officers of the law question
RE: '69 w30 and w31 owners
Re:  Spark Plug Gap?
Re: Transmissions, Bandwidth, Web Pages

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:50:23 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: removing back seat

> The seat belts are holding it in.

Oops, I think that might be wrong.  I don't think they started that style yet.
Should be a couple fat-washer bolts at the bottom of the seat somewhere.  Pull
those out, and lift straight up.  I think...

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:55:52 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Stop Including Trivial Files was Re: Dashpot Explanation

Raul Martinez wrote:
>
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What mail program are you using???  In Netscape, under "Edit"-"Preferences...",
then "Mail & Groups" and "Identity" there's a box at the bottom of the form
asking to "always attach address book card to messages"

Is that checked?  I'm guessing it's not Netscape, though, since my Netscape
won't recognize it.  Might check for something similar, though.


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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:47:32 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: 71' cut conv. questions

My 71 cut s starts to clunk out while it is idling, I put a little gas
in the carb and it started.  The guy I bought it from says it needs a
new exhaust system.  How much would that cost? new carb?
Also  my 69' cad coupe deville is leaking oil on the engine and sputters
after you turn off the car, is that the ignition or the starter?

Scott
69' cad coupe deville conv.
71' cut conv.
91' cut sedan

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:26:50 EDT
From: <SexyGuy928@aol.com>
Subject: question about big blocks

Hey, my names Gerik and i live in Florida........i've got an '86 Cutlass 442
and want to put a big block 455 in it, and was curious to know if anyone has
ever put any type of big block in that year cutlass.....if so i have some
other questions to ask.  Thanx!!!

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:37:38 -0400
From: urbanch <urbanch@magi.com>
Subject: RE: Adios

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yahoo! But is this where you sit back pretend your off the list and watch if
anyone is talking about you again?

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From: 	Chris Brown Witt
Sent: 	Sunday, June 28, 1998 12:46 PM
To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca; me from myself
Subject: 	Adios

Gotta run, it's been fun.
Don't let the likes of IBDrButthead get ya down.

When I come back it had better not be a list of 1% signal to noise with every
other post being how to get more hp out of the SBChevy motors that SOME Olds'
got stiffed with. Keep it Olds, Keep it pertinent. Call on the carpet anyone
who claims to make 487 HP from a 307. Send anyone with PROOF that the SMW 403
exists right to me.

You know where to find me.
Signing off to take care of life & work on my car now that it's out & about...

Se ya a Woodward this year, in my car!
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Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing, MI 48911

517.882.9747





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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: question about big blocks

- ---SexyGuy928@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey, my names Gerik and i live in Florida........i've got an '86
Cutlass 442
> and want to put a big block 455 in it, and was curious to know if
anyone has
> ever put any type of big block in that year cutlass.....if so i have
some
> other questions to ask.  Thanx!!!
>
Got a buddy with 520"THUMPER"(Mondelo KIT)Holley electroic f/i and
NOS.Just for the life of me can't figure out why he keeps those 2.29
or so gears,he doesn't have the b*^%s to go all the way.
==
mailto:super442@yahoo.com
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-----Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!



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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:25:50 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Selling a 64 Olds wagon in great condition

I got this message privately.

>X-From_: abledog@msn.com Sun Jun 28 04:29:05 1998
>From: "Steve" <abledog@msn.com>
>To: <lisa@hotglass.com>
>Subject: Selling a 64 Olds wagon in great condition
>Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:39:45 -0400
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0
>Importance: Normal
>
>Hi
>
>I know nothing about classic cars or how to sell them, but I have a really
>exceptional Olds wagon my in-laws and we have owned since new. We have used
>it as a summer car and stored it 32 winters. It is all original, undamaged,
>drives well and looks great except for a truly horrible paint job some idiot
>sprayed on it some years ago. I'd like to find a no-hassle way to sell it
>for a fair price and know it was going to a serious collector, restorer or
>museum. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Steve Sanford
>PO Box 242
>Thousand Is. Park, NY 13692
>(315) 482-5942
>Abledog@msn.com
>

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:29:30 -0400
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@mail.cvn.net>
Subject: Re: headers

Kerry :

I have headers on 69 Cutlass.

Looking for a good set exhaust
manifolds ...

I am not quite sure what constitutes
good exhaust manifolds.

Ken Swick

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:14:36 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: [Fwd: 71' cut conv. questions]

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My 71 cut s starts to clunk out while it is idling, I put a little gas
in the carb and it started.  The guy I bought it from says it needs a
new exhaust system.  How much would that cost? new carb?
Also  my 69' cad coupe deville is leaking oil on the engine and sputters
after you turn off the car, is that the ignition or the starter?

Scott
69' cad coupe deville conv.
71' cut conv.
91' cut sedan

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:56:57 -0700 (MST)
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: ST. JOHNS!!

Hey,
My mail was returned to "St. Johns" guy about G-body parts I'm selling,
please rerespond!  Thanks!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:30:30 EDT
From: <Valpal4@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Adios

how do i unsubscribe?

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:39:31 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: question about big blocks

> I've got an '86 Cutlass 442
> and want to put a big block 455 in it, and was curious

Well sir, you've come to the right place!  There's a few of us G-body
Big-Blockers here on the list.  We'll kill one idea before anyone starts it:
396 and 454 are not Big Blocks, they're cat food.  As long as we're talking 
Olds
Big Blocks (none other deserve capital letters!;) we're fine.  Since you're
labelling it as a 442, I'm assuming you have a 307 in there now.  As long as
it's an Olds V8, we'll be fine.  The BB Olds (425, 455, and 400) will bolt 
right
in, although I haven't heard of anyone actually running the 400.  You'll need 
to
modify the exhaust and the A/C compressor bracket.  Stock intake will clear the
hood, aftermarket will need either a low profile air cleaner, or hood
modifications.  If you keep the stock motor mounts from the small block, you'll
want to modify the tranny's rear mount to get driveline angles back to spec.  
If
you use the Big Block's mounts, you might have problems between the crank 
pulley
and the sway bar.  I've not run those mounts, so I'm not certain what that
entails.  You might want to get stiffer front springs to handle the extra
weight.  That 2004R might have problems with the torque of the BB, also.  If
it's a real 442, you might already have a posi, if not, you might look into it,
or at least a set of air bags for the back.  You ~will~ have traction problems,
I can almost assure you of that.

As for if you want to do it???  Well, the Rockit will never see a Small Block
under the hood.  Ever again!!!  Not that it'd be that difficult, just that I
could never want to do that again.  Love that BB Torque!!!!

Any other questions, we're ready for ya!  ;)

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:56:07 -0400
From: "Andersons" <robertan@cfw.com>
Subject: Tranny Leak- Suggestions?

Noticed a pretty steady drip from right under the speedo cable connection
while changing the oil today.  Unscrewed the cable, and it's seeping between
the plastic hub and the housing.

Guess I'll lose all my fliud if I pull this gear out.  Any suggestions on
fixing it?  Is it repairable, or do I need to get a new speedo driven gear
first?

Bob, Covington, VA
robertan@cfw.com

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:05:27 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Wow!!!  We had a ~real~ day today!!!

Well, the storm took a few days to blow through, but the wind and rain 
~finally~
let up.  For a bit.  Decided to clean up the 83 a bit.  Pulled the carpet
yesterday, and pressure washed it.  Started raining, so we all hit the bars
instead.  Been awhile...  Wake up today, windy and crappy.  By early afternoon,
it cleared nicely.  Sunny, clear, calm, perfect!  Unbelievabe.  So, I cleaned
off the floorboards of the 83, spray painted the rough spots, and treated the
big sections to some DynaMat.  Replaced the broken turn signal assembly (had 
the
new one for close to six months, never felt like tearing into the column)  Went
well.  Suprised!  Replaced the high beam mounting pockets, since I put the dual
elements in there.  Now they actually sit in there right.  Painted the trims
flat black to match better, too.  Looks good.  "Borrowed" the rear sway bar off
of my GN (It ain't gonna be needin' it for a while!)  Stuck it on the '83.
Excellent!  Determined my muffler's shot (smack it and it rattles, ~loudly~ 
like
a bolt's in there or something.  Maybe it's a connecting rod...)  It'll stay
that way for a while.  All in all, got a lot done.  Corners alot better.  Be
much nicer when I get the carpet and other seats back in.  And change that damn
upper ball joint and rim...  Soon.  I hope...  Noticed the front bumper mount
was bent a bit.  Guess they'd hit the ditch harder than I'd thought.  I had to
straighten out the front end a bit when I got it.  Don't remember noticing
that.  Hmm.  Aw well...  Looks OK.  Wish ~all~ Sundays were this nice!!!

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:11:36 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Tranny Leak- Suggestions?

> Noticed a pretty steady drip from right under the speedo cable connection
> while changing the oil today.  Unscrewed the cable, and it's seeping between
> the plastic hub and the housing.

I'm fighting the exact same problem.  Almost.  My plastic housing is broken.
Sought to change it today, only to realize my spare is a bit different, so I 
had
to cancel that project.  If your fluid is high enough to be leaking there, just
put the rear end on jackstands or ramps.  You won't have to drain the fluid or
anything.  There's a steel clamp holding it on (10mm, on the newer ones)  Need
to unthread the speedo cable, remove that bolt/clamp, and get a pliers on it,
and twist/rock that thing out of there.  Kindof a pain with the crossmember
right there.  Try to keep as much grease and dirt away from the hole as
possible.  You'll either need to replace the o-ring on that housing, or the
entire housing, depending on its condition.  There are a couple seals in it.
Upon reinstallation, coat that o-ring surface with vaseline, so it goes 
together
safely.  If you replace it with another plastic one, use care not to 
overtighten
the speedo cable, as that will damage the housing.



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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:12:31 EDT
From: <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!

In a message dated 98-06-28 15:57:57 EDT, you write:

<< If you take a 400 SBC crank and do such and such and put it in a Rocket
 > 350 you can make a 383 Olds/Ch*v stroker. >>

uh, are you sure he wasnt talking about a 400 OLDSMOBILE crank?  cuz if you
think about it, there are ways to get a 400 olds crank into a 350 block and
that might come out to around a 383......

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:22:37 -0400
From: Scott Stefanich <sstefani@up.net>
Subject: 455 engines

Are late sixties 455 c.i. engines compatible for Buick, Oldsmobile and
Pontiac?

I would also appreciate information on my 1968 Olds 4-4-2 convertible's
engine.

Thank you.

Scott Stefanich

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:17:46 -0400
From: Jim & Jo Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!

         Putting the 400/425 crank in a 350 Olds will yield a very large
small block. It comes close to a 412 cu in engine. You basically have a
65-67 400 with a .057 overbore but in a small block vice a big block. It can
and has been done. One heck of a way to hide those cubes.

Jim Chermack

At 11:12 PM 6/28/1998 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-06-28 15:57:57 EDT, you write:
>
><< If you take a 400 SBC crank and do such and such and put it in a Rocket
> > 350 you can make a 383 Olds/Ch*v stroker. >>
>
>uh, are you sure he wasnt talking about a 400 OLDSMOBILE crank?  cuz if you
>think about it, there are ways to get a 400 olds crank into a 350 block and
>that might come out to around a 383......
>
>

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:30:17 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!

BIGJERMES@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-06-28 15:57:57 EDT, you write:
>
> << If you take a 400 SBC crank and do such and such and put it in a Rocket
>  > 350 you can make a 383 Olds/Ch*v stroker. >>
>
> uh, are you sure he wasnt talking about a 400 OLDSMOBILE crank?  cuz if you
> think about it, there are ways to get a 400 olds crank into a 350 block and
> that might come out to around a 383......

At first, that's what I thought he said, but I remember he said "small
block" so I specifically asked him again. He said Sh*tvy. I was
torqued!! I didn't show it though, I was too busy admiring his car.

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mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
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            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:33:20 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!

Jim & Jo Chermack wrote:
>
>          Putting the 400/425 crank in a 350 Olds will yield a very large
> small block. It comes close to a 412 cu in engine. You basically have a
> 65-67 400 with a .057 overbore but in a small block vice a big block. It can
> and has been done. One heck of a way to hide those cubes.

I just think the whole idea of stroking is pointless. If you want more
than 350, get a 400! Why ruin your motor like that? Of course, I can see
if you had a 455 and wanted to make that bigger, but "anything else
would be uncivilized."

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Matt Cremean
mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
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         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:30:02 PDT
From: "flynt myrick" <f_myrick@hotmail.com>
Subject: 66 Cutless Value

List members,
   I attended the annual Helen Keller Festival in Tuscumbia, Alabama
yesterday.  At the car show portion of the festival, I saw a very nice
1966 Cutlass 2 door hard top for sale.  It is a three owner car.  White
with black top and interior.  It has A/C, power steering, breaks,
windows and antenna.  Paint, top, interior, and tires were very nice. It
has a 330 V8 with jetaway.  It was purchased new in Decatur, Alabama
where it remained until about three months ago. I saw no rust.  The
owner said the car runs great.  He asked me $4,500.  Is this a good
price? Is 1966 a good year.  I really like the looks of the car but I
don't need another old car. The car show gave me the "car fever".

Flynt Myrick
f_myrick@hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:45:36 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!

> I just think the whole idea of stroking is pointless. If you want more
> than 350, get a 400! Why ruin your motor like that?

Whoa, there Tonto (always wanted to say that...)

Wouldn't exactly be ruining a good motor, (unless you're referring to the 425)
Keep in mind the 350 in question is a diesel.  Crank already comes close to
fitting right in there.  Why???  Well, for the knowledgeable competitors, they
can look in and say, why yes, he ~does~ have a small block.  Most won't notice
the big block, but some would.  A stealth thing, ya know.  Combining the torque
of a big block with the physical size of a small block.  Sounds good to me.  Of
course, I'd ~still~ rather sleeve it up to a 403, and drop a 455 crank in it...
Get up around 500+ cid, ~now~ we're talking!  Need to do some massive metal 
work
on the block, though, for the throws to clear, I hear.  But just think of the
stealth factor in that!  Heh heh...

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:45:25 -0400
From: Ken <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Questions about 78 Cutlass race car.

I went and looked at a 1978 Cutlass "race car". Price is $2500, firm.
Body looks solid, some body filler.
No motor.
TCI TH350 trans chevy patern
TCI 9" converter
15gallon fuel cell
battery in trunk
cool can
vaccuum res. for power brakes
holley blue fule pump
hurst line lock
B&M rachet shifter
8pt. roll cage
interior gutted except carpet
racing bucket seat
6pt harness
chevy 12 bolt rear 4.56 gears
rear lower control arms removed and replaced with weld on ladder bars
spedo replaced with oil temp/press, water temp, fuel press(with isolator)
fiberglass pin on hood
monster tach w/ external shift lite
Hoosier 29x10 slicks prob less than 10 passes on em
Crager SS mags all the way around nice condition
car is burgandy?sp?

supposedly raced at quaker city/national trails low 10's

questions are..
1) What would be involved in getting the Chevy TH350 to bolt to my 455 Olds?
2) The rearend isn't quit centered under the car, it's pushed over about an
inch to the right
     is this a sign of a bent frame?  With the roll cage there I'm tending to
think this has
     more to do with the ladder bars being crooked.

Think it's something to keep away from?

Thanks,
Ken

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:54:16 -0700
From: Diane Blanford <dblanford@nidlink.com>
Subject: Lockup rear brakes on G-body

I had a similar problem on an 81 Citation.  It appeared that the front
brakes weren't doing as much braking as the back brakes.  The rotor and
pads on the front didn't look bad to me when I looked at them.  I
couldn't figure it out.  I took it to a dealership, and explained the
problem to them.  I left the car and they turned the rotor and replaced
the pads on the front.  I picked up the car and the back brakes still
locked up.  I visited with a friend at work and he asked if my driveway
was on a slope that I backed down on.  I replied with an affirmative
answer and he said that the adjusters on the back brakes may be self
adjusting too much.  He suggested backing the adjusters off on the back
and see if it helped.  It cured the problem.

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:55:32 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!

BIGJERMES@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 98-06-28 15:57:57 EDT, you write:
>
> << If you take a 400 SBC crank and do such and such and put it in a Rocket
>  > 350 you can make a 383 Olds/Ch*v stroker. >>
>
> uh, are you sure he wasnt talking about a 400 OLDSMOBILE crank?  cuz if you
> think about it, there are ways to get a 400 olds crank into a 350 block and
> that might come out to around a 383......

Using Olds cranks in an Olds 350 block:
Early 400 crank would yield 408 cid
Late 400 crank would yield 440 cid



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Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:27:28 -0700
From: Eric Spence <ericsp@mail.ocis.net>
Subject: Re: Air conditioning

Do I turn left or right at the border?!!

krzy4evr@usit.net wrote:

> Bring your car on down to Virginia...!! Just this weekend , I have
> found many A/C shops that will still recharge with the old faithful
> R-12...!! I'm getting my 442 and my '71 Monte charged tomorrow..!!!
>
> Mike
> '86 Supreme
> '86 442
> '71 Monte
> __________________________________________________________________
> > At 09:40 AM 6/28/98 -0700, you wrote:
> > >In BC Canada, if the air conditioning has lost it's charge, we have to
> > >convert it.  About $350.00 plus tax!  Lets play "What if".  What if a
> > >person happended to be in the US in a stae such as Washington State,
> > >would this person be able to get the system recharged or does it have to
> > >be convered there as well?  Idaho?  Oregon?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Well as far as i know they don't require the r14a retrofit in order to
> > charge your air ...they just don't care ..i belive you can also go to
> > Alberta or Saharan they don't care either
> > rick
> > 1972 442
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  "The best way to predict the future is to create it...."

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:17:38 -0500
From: glgillum <glgillum@mci2000.com>
Subject: Re: Tranny Leak- Suggestions?

I just replaced this on my 69 Cutlass convertible.  The opening tends to get
"goose egged" and no longer seals as the miles build up on it.  It is an
easily obtained part at a GM dealer, and is not too pricey.  You will lose
some fluid.  Count the teeth to make sure you get the same to keep speedo
calibrated, and get the gear, an O-ring, and the metal housing.  Best of
luck  glgillum@mci2000.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Andersons <robertan@cfw.com>
To: Olds List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, June 28, 1998 9:55 PM
Subject: Tranny Leak- Suggestions?


>Noticed a pretty steady drip from right under the speedo cable connection
>while changing the oil today.  Unscrewed the cable, and it's seeping
between
>the plastic hub and the housing.

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:20:53 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Lockup rear brakes on G-body

he said that the adjusters on the back brakes may be self
> adjusting too much.  He suggested backing the adjusters off on the back
> and see if it helped.  It cured the problem.

Judging by the function of the adjusters, barring faulty parts, its highly
unlikely to ~overadjust~ the back brakes automatically.  Once they get tight
enough to eliminate any freeplay, the adjusters cannot get any tighter.  
Backing
them off manually will reduce the braking effectiveness of the rears, which
would reduce the lockup potential...  Temporarily.  Until they readjust back to
their normal position.  ODds are a small driveway won't get speeds high enough
to do that, hard to say, though.  My guess, for the citation, there's another
underlying problem somewhere.  But, that's a citation, so...

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:36:02 -0700
From: Eric Spence <ericsp@mail.ocis.net>
Subject: Re: Stop Including Trivial Files was Re: Dashpot Explanation

Are you using Netscape?  Is it a card attachment as under Edit Preferences,
Identity, attach card?

Raul Martinez wrote:

>         For some reason totally unexplained to me seems my message have some
kind of attachment. > >         1. Dind't that be my intention >         2. 
When
I look at it at the list, since of course I receive it, nothing attached
appears. >         3. Please if any have any idea of what's happening tell me 
> >
Regards, > >         Raul >         1966 Delta 88 > > -----Mensaje 
original----- >
De:     KarlAune@aol.com [SMTP:KarlAune@aol.com] > Enviado el:     Domingo 28 
de
Junio de 1998 02:49 > Para:   oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca > Asunto: Stop 
Including
Trivial Files was Re: Dashpot Explanation > > In a message dated 98-06-27
14:10:38 EDT, you write: > > <<  File:  Unknown.bin (1755 bytes) DL Time (28800
bps): < 1 minute > >   Can anyone take a small time (or directed to) to explain
me which is the > function and how a dashpot carb works? Thanks in advance, 
Raul
1966 Delta 88 > >> > > OK. > > Karl gots a gripe. > > Please stop including
those (what are they anyway? buisiness cards?) files > with your submission. > 
>
If you must send info about yourself, place it in your footer ONE time per >
day. > > Anyone who needs to know who/where you are can find you quickly enough
by > consulting you privately. > > Meantime my download folder has eight
different "Unknown" files of less than > 2K that appear as meaningless code 
when
I try to open them. > > It is tough enough to root through all of the 
Oldsmobile
mail without making a > special trip to my download folder to delete outright
all of the crap! > > And now for something completely different: Olds content. 
> >
I got some GOOD pics of my diff code stamping with a digital camera on my last 
>
day with my former client. > > But I forgot the disk there. > These will
promptly be posted when I have occasion to back there. > (New job is in
completely opposite direction    :-(    ) > > KA > &SOM > >
------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:47:42 -0700
From: Eric Spence <ericsp@mail.ocis.net>
Subject: Air conditioning

Thanks all who responded to my question on recharging my air
conditioning.  Defiantly given me some food for thought!

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:13:25 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about 78 Cutlass race car.

Ken wrote:

> supposedly raced at quaker city/national trails low 10's
>
> questions are..
> 1) What would be involved in getting the Chevy TH350 to bolt to my 455 Olds?
> 2) The rearend isn't quit centered under the car, it's pushed over about an
> inch to the right
>      is this a sign of a bent frame?  With the roll cage there I'm tending to
> think this has
>      more to do with the ladder bars being crooked.
>
> Think it's something to keep away from?
>
> Thanks,
> Ken


Ken,
(1) Trans Dapt and TCI make adapter plates for converting.  Both are NHRA
accepted.  Although it has been obviously been reworked, a TH350 behind a 455
would not be my first choice for longevity.

(2) What type of ladder bars did somebody weld on?  How good does the
craftsmanship look on the bars and the cage?  A 1" difference sends up a very
large red flag to me (or in this case black flag)  I would be very suspect of 
an
ill handling car.  Or at least one that pitched drive shafts on a regular 
basis.
Inspect the cage and attachment points in relation to the rear suspension
mounting points.  Either something is severely wrong with the installation of
the 12 bolt.  Or something is bent in the chassis from not being properly
braced. You didn't mention if the car has been back halved or retains the stock
rear frame.

(Without seeing the car) the price seems cheap enough for what you list.  How
good is the quality overall?  Has the car been built by a knowledgeable racer 
or
thrown together in Billy Bobs back yard?  If you do make the purchase, I would
focus on fixing the rear end alignment as a first priority.  An ill handling 
car
will never be consistent or win rounds.  Not to mention some white knuckle
driving!

Good luck!
- --

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:05:45 -0700
From: Chris & Robin Miller <cya442@mindspring.com>
Subject: Spark Plug Gap?

    I am getting ready to install a set of NGK 5670-6 spark plugs and
was wondering what to gap these plugs at?   I have a MSD box and Mallory
Unilite Distributor and have usually ran AC plugs at .040. but since
these plugs are different with the V-groove should I gap the new ones at
.040 also?  Thanks again.

Chris Miller
'68 442
Tustin, CA

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:14:52 EDT
From: <Npan@aol.com>
Subject: Tilt steering column parts

Does anyone know where I can get the Lower shaft bearing for a 71 old tilt
steering column? It's the last bearing you can see just behind the spline
shaft. thanks



Nillson Pan
71 cutlas conv
77 T/A Smoky and the Bandit Edition

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:29:51 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Yard Humor - Long

Found this from a Buick sight.  Figured some might find a laugh, and identify,
also...

CC'ing to RS, since he left us and all.  (Had to give some long post to fill 
his
mailbox since we won't anymore!)

Junkyard Lingo

                                     By George Nenadovich

Here are some common terms used at the junkyard / salvage yard with some
interpretations to help you understand them and when to use them.

1. Scale Car - Car arrives at the yard with no engine, trans, bumpers, fenders,
doors etc. This is what some club members do with cars once they are done with
them. This is also known as a crusher. The car gets processed -- remove gas
tank, tires, valuable metals such as ac condensor, radiator and catalytic
converters and then placed in the crusher.

2. Processing Area - This is where cars are prepared for placement in the
u-pull-it area of the yard. Catalytic converters, gas and gas tanks are removed
as well as all fluids such as engine oil, brake fluid, radiator fluid, power
steering fluid, tranny oil, rear gear oil and of course Freon.

3. Core Charge - This is when the yard charges a small fee to help you decide 
to
return the bad parts you are going to replace with the ones you just bought.
This is also known as Let s charge the customer some more money.

4. Yard Crawler - When you need to get under the car in the dirt/mud to remove
some parts and do not want to get filthy laying in the dirt. The best yard
crawlers are the trunk carpets from full size cars such as Cadillacs, Electras,
Bonnevilles, Olds 98 etc.

5. Trunk Treasure - Goodies you find in the trunk such as power tools, hand
tools, auto chemicals such as carb cleaner and small Freon cans, never used 
orig
spare tire, uninstalled auto parts etc. Most commonly found in cars that 
someone
started to fix and gave up so they loaded everything in the car and called the
yard to come haul it away after realizing they do not know what they are doing
or they ran out of money before they got started.

6. Glove Box Gold - Like new owner s manuals you find in some four door cars
that are in excellent condition and are junked for obvious reasons - wrecked,
blown engine or not so obvious reasons - abandoned vehicle, impound car.

7. Grease Bomb - Describes the engine compartment and front under carriage of a
car that looks like the front six feet were submerged in a vat of grease. This
usually results from leaky valve covers, oil pan, timing chain cover and other
unknown forces of the automotive environment.

8. Carcass Car - Describes a Skylark after one or more club members have pulled
all the good parts off a car such as front clip, doors, bumpers, interior and
drivetrain. The only thing left is the rear clip and frame although these parts
have been known to disappear. See #1.

9. Universal Trunk Opener - Also known as a large flat blade screwdriver. It is
used to pry out the trunk lock cylinder and pop the trunk when no keys are 
found
in the car. It is also used in some states to operate the ignition to get a 
free
parts car.

10. Ford/Chrysler Tools - You use these tools to remove parts that you can not
remove with normal hand tools. Usually occurs when the parts are rusted, welded
in place, have stripped fasteners and/or you forgot the right tools at home. 
You
have to use a hammer and chisel to remove the part. These tools always seem to
remove the part and they can be used on all parts.

11. Custom Drop Top - Aka four door convertibles the factory never made. Just
before a four door ends up in the yard, someone decides to make a convertible
out of it by cutting off the roof. Also called a parade car by some 
individuals.

12. Serious Yarder - Someone who is known by all the yard personnel and is on a
first name basis. Also, refers to someone who brings a generator to the yard to
operate power tools and may also have a gas powered metal chop saw to cut up 
the
salvage car. Several club members qualify for this title!

13. Locking Lug Nut Removal Tool - aka #10. Three pound sledge hammer and large
chisel. You never find the locking lug nut key in the car so you need to use 
the
three pounder to break the stud or using the chisel, slowly rotate the locking
nut with mild hits and at unusual angle.

14. Parts Quandry - This occurs when you run across a part and do not know if
you have a spare or extras at home. After buying the part and putting it away 
at
home, you realize you already have three others and they are in better
condition.

15. Heartbreak Car - This is a car you find in the yard that is in excellent
condition and is in better condition than the car you are trying to repair. 
This
term also refers to the car you have been trying to buy for some time for a
decent price only to find it in the yard knowing the owner got $100 or less for
it.

16. Posi-tively Not - this is your chance of finding a posi rear or 12 bolt 
rear
in the yard.

17. Five minutes won t make a difference? - The question you ask yourself after
finding someone else in the process of removing parts you need after arriving
five minutes after the yard opens.

18. Junkyard Gold - The rare parts you find once or twice a year that are worth
their weight in gold such as rust-free core supports and passenger side
fenderwells.

19. Parts Frustration, Part bad luck - Related to #14. Occurs when you find a
part this week you needed last week when you had to buy a new one which costs
five times the used part. Also occurs when you decide you do not need the part
then realize next weekend you need it. So, you go back to the yard thinking it
is still there and you only find #8.

20. Tool Time - No, this is not related to the TV show Home Improvement. This
occurs when you check the car you worked on and immediate area to make sure you
did not forget any tools. You would be surprised at how many tools you will 
find
if you look hard enough. This is also a good way to find some tools left behind
by other yarders.

21. Hide & Seek - Occurs two weeks before the all-you-can-carry sale for $30.
You bury, hide, stash, disguise, dismantle and/or relocate to another
manufacturers section i.e. GM parts in Ford section. Clearly evident prior to
the sale with a lot of yarders removing parts but no one leaving the yard with
any parts. When the sale occurs, you try to remember where the parts are 
located
and sometimes learn that someone else found your parts and took them. This is
part of the risk with the hide & seek method.

22. Yard Engineering - Occurs during the all-you-can-carry sale. You have to
carry the parts ten yards. An infinite number of ways to carry parts will be
tested, some with success. This is an excellent way to test seat belt strength
which are used to carry heads, rims, short blocks and disc brake set-ups.



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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jack Karamanos <jalkara@whidbey.net>
Subject: re street race

around here they are low 11s, tubbed caged and juiced and blown,
industrial areas and airport roads, and much change changing hands, in the
am

47rocket98

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:34:03 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: More Auto Humor

You Might Be a Racer If...

1. You've paid $6 a gallon for gas without complaining.

2. You've been known to yell "It means check your mirrors retard!"
   at the television or another driver.

3. You think the last line of the Star Spangled Banner is "Racers,
   start your engines."

4. You planned your wedding around the racing seasons.

5. You registered for wedding gifts at Summit and Jegs.

6. You refer to the corner down the street as "Turn One."

7. You know the quarter mile time for your riding lawn mower.

8. You know the "racing line" for every turn on your daily commute
   including all alternate routes and practice hitting them daily.

9. No tire dealer in town will honor their tread wear warranty on any
   car that you've been seen near.

10. You quote your street tire life in months rather than miles.

11. Even if you don't have ABS, you never lock your brakes unless you ]
    "really wanted to do that."

12. You've started looking for sponsors for your daily commute as well
    as your weekend hobby!

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:41:05 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: More Switch Pitch Info

Found this tonight.  More info about the elusive SP's

http://pw2.netcom.com/~gnenad/switchpitch.html

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:55:46 -0600
From: "Igor" <todorovb@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!

OKAY, so can I use a late 400/425 crank and a 403 .030over engine to make a
stroker.  How much cubes would it be.  What would I have to do to make this
possible.

- ----------
> From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Ch*vy+Olds = I DON'T THINK SO!!!
> Date: Sunday, June 28, 1998 9:55 PM
>
>
>
> BIGJERMES@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 98-06-28 15:57:57 EDT, you write:
> >
> > << If you take a 400 SBC crank and do such and such and put it in a
Rocket
> >  > 350 you can make a 383 Olds/Ch*v stroker. >>
> >
> > uh, are you sure he wasnt talking about a 400 OLDSMOBILE crank?  cuz if
you
> > think about it, there are ways to get a 400 olds crank into a 350 block
and
> > that might come out to around a 383......
>
> Using Olds cranks in an Olds 350 block:
> Early 400 crank would yield 408 cid
> Late 400 crank would yield 440 cid
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Rollin
> Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
> http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
> E-mail: supercars@transport.com
>
>

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:27:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE:

Respond to ghowze@primary.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: 71' cut conv. questions

My 71 cut s starts to clunk out while it is idling, I put a little gas
in the carb and it started.  The guy I bought it from says it needs a
new exhaust system.  How much would that cost? new carb?
Also  my 69' cad coupe deville is leaking oil on the engine and sputters
after you turn off the car, is that the ignition or the starter?

Scott
69' cad coupe deville conv.
71' cut conv.
91' cut sedan

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:10:07 -0400
From: "Wagner, John" <WagnerJo@pios.com>
Subject: RE: 71 taillight lenses

Let me take a close look at them..probably $10. ea. but I want to be
sure their OK enough.

It's been awhile since I've seen them in my garage..

John

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:15:37 -0400
From: Bill Gochenour <3STICKS@stjohns.edu>
Subject: Re: ST. JOHNS!!

Ray wrote:
>
> Hey,
> My mail was returned to "St. Johns" guy about G-body parts I'm selling,
> please rerespond!  Thanks!
>
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass Supreme


Sorry about that, our refelector are down while we install a faster
mainframe. You can use <gochenow@stjohns.edu> until we get the
reflectors going again. Believe me I miss it more then you guys. On the
good side I can now download over 200 pieces of incomming mail in under
15 seconds.

Sorry again !

- --

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:26:40 -0400
From: "Wagner, John" <WagnerJo@pios.com>
Subject: RE: electronic ignition conversion

Summit Racing sells a points to electronic conversion that uses your
stock distributor. I have several friends who have them and really like
'em (69 Cutlass S and '70 Supreme) I put an HEI distributor in mine out
of a later model GM. Single wire hookup..works great.

John

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:37:15 -0400
From: "Wagner, John" <WagnerJo@pios.com>
Subject: RE: removing back seat

Remove the two bolts with large washers that are at the bottom of the
rear back you might have to look under the bottom and look up
slightly...then then seat just lifts up to disengage from two "slot"
brackets at the top. Watch your package shelf when you do this.

John

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:46:43 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Brake Shoes: which is which

In a message dated 98-06-26 10:00:53 EDT, you write:

<< Actually, I always thought the larger shoe went on the back. >>

I think Joe's right.  I just did my drums and that is the setup for my car.
Bruce

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:49:54 EDT
From: <BigEJ@aol.com>
Subject: OLDS NEON (not that other little car)

Hi All;

Sorry that I haven't contributed much to the list for the last six months or
so.  Been lurking in digest mode and not getting much done.

Last winter I saw a 65 442 for sale and stopped to look it over.  The owner of
the car, a really rough imitation, also owned a sign shop.  Talk turned to
neon signs, and eventually a neon 442 sign was developed.   I had a few made
up, posted them on Brycemans page and the rest is history.  One of the signs
was destroyed by our UPS friends but their insurance repaid us .

I have a second generation of these signs now, designed to better withstand
the rigors of shipping.  Presently the signs are either red neon 442 outlined
in blue, or a blue 88 with a white rocket behind it.  Both signs are 18" long
and about 11" high (the 88 is slightly larger).  The signs are mounted on
black plexiglass and look very sharp.  I'm selling these for $375.00 each plus
shipping (about $35.00 insured depending how far from Maine you are).

If anyone on the list is interested please e-mail me directly (bigej@aol.com)
and if there is interest in any other (W-30?? etc)  signs please let me know.
I have to make roughly three signs of a type to make it cost effective.

Thanks very much!!

Elephant Engine Ernie
aka Ernie Johnson

67 442
50 88

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:53:12 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: KREEN

In a message dated 98-06-26 10:09:46 EDT, you write:

<< Best radiator stop leak is damn near free in most restaurants.
  >>
That's interesting. I wonder why that would work?
Bruce

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:11:38 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: KREEN

Bruce:

Black pepper is kinda "woody" and it expands when wet. As it circulates
through the cooling system it gets forced into the hole and expands,
plugging the leak.

For bigger holes use a wooden golf tee. A friend of mine had a hole in
the oil pan and just hammered a tee in it and was able to drive 1000
miles home with no oil loss.

Pepper and golf tees, don't leave home without them.

Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Conv.

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:15:04 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: AC conversion

Is it possible to just change the oil in the system, change the fittings
and use R-134a in place of R-12?

Mark

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:30:16 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Officers of the law question

Street racing is NOT  drag racing!
Sorry, Just a peeve of mine.
- --
Greg Rollin.  NHRA Super/Pro ET C674
__________________

Here, here!!!

I have this same reaction every time I read a newspaper article about
somebody getting hurt "drag racing" on the street.  This is an education
problem which has persisted since the start of organized drag racing.  Yes,
we've all done it, but face it, street racing is stupid.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:00:04 -0500
From: "Smetana, Christopher" <csmetana@dowagro.com>
Subject: RE: '69 w30 and w31 owners

Brent,
I checked a few other documents, namely the Dr. Olds W-Machine flier.
And it only says 26.2 sq inches for the opening of the scoop, no length
and width.  So this doesn't really help, unless you wanted to know
square inches.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
work: csmetana@dowagro.com

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

>----------
>From: 	Brent Pinkstaff[SMTP:fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com]
>Sent: 	Friday, June 26, 1998 10:30 AM
>To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: 	RE: '69 w30 and w31 owners
>
>Chris,
>
>Where did you get these measurements from? The reason why I ask is that
>I measured my '68 scoops and the opening is 1/2" wider and 1/2" shorter
>than these molding measurements are.
>
>Brent Pinkstaff
>'70 Cutlass S (Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass poo)
>
>>
>>Here are the measurements I have for the scoop moldings:
>>'68 13 1/2  x  2 1/2
>>'69 10 1/2  x  2 5/8
>>
>>Chris Smetana
>
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:00:10 EDT
From: <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Spark Plug Gap?

Chris,

I have been running these plugs for a couple of years now and like
you I have MSD 6AL with GM HEI  I run mine at .055 which is right at border of
opening up too much since these are not extended tip plugs.  3 wks ago  ran
11.80 / 114 mph thru full exhaust and on
M/T sportsmans DOT tire.

Rgds,
Rob Thomas
69 442

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:00:02 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Transmissions, Bandwidth, Web Pages

Bandwidth:
     Ray Moriary- I want to see pix of your 70 W30 stick (on your web
site of course!)....I think I speak for the majority of car fans in that
we'd rather
see an imperfect one than none at all. Coming soon...pictures of my 70
W31 project car...it used to be a chicken coop and a doghouse!
John Pajak
____________

Careful what you ask for, John.  If Ray puts his pics up, I'll be forced to
pollute the web with pics of _my_ Dirty W-30 (as it was so aptly christened
by someone in Cap City Rockets).  Can the DC area stand _two_ ratty 70
W-30s?  Or I'll send Chris Sparks and others running with pics of my H/O
(it's not a pretty sight).  'Course, you're the guy that has pics of your
unfinished _garage_ on your web page in addition to your cars ;-)

Seriously, I agree.  Getting pics of the projects up for all to see lends
support and motivation to keep working on them (well, it would for me, at
least)

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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