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oldsmobile-digest       Thursday, June 11 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1304



Re: Hood insulation
Re: conv. top replacement
Re: radio
Re: degreeing camshaft
Fwd: VERY IMPORTANT!
Re: '87 442 wheels 4sale
Hot Wheels
72 pcs wanted?
wrong coolant pump
gold rims
Re: UNBOUNCE: ISO '56 Olds Parts
Re: Hot Wheels
64 parts
buncha damn idiots!
67 pcs
Re: Time to vote
Why do you do this?
SF motor id
120 mph conversion
Re: wrong coolant pump
Re: 72 pcs wanted? (hood)
Re: 67 Delta 88 convertible
Re: H*lp!!! Need it in a HURRY!!
Re: 72 pcs wanted?
Re: H*lp!!! Need it in a HURRY!!
All read this -- List FAQ
Day at the Races
Re: Hot Wheels
Glad to be Back
Re: Better Tuneage & Points
Re: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions
Re: Letters needed for 65 Olds
Non-olds, but please help!
HP Ratings...  Was: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions
Re: buncha damn idiots!
Re: HP Ratings...  Was: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions
Re: Non-olds, but please help!
To Chris Sparks
Re: Better Tuneage & Points
Re: 64 parts-reply to witt
ADMIN: Urban Myths, etc.
455 replaces small block
*sigh*
Re: HP Ratings...  Was: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions
cryopoop
Broken rocker arms
Date:	Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:40:33 -0400
Re: Broken rocker arms
Re: Olds Cutlass Hood Liner
THM200 General question...
Re: Broken rocker arms
Re: 120 mph conversion
Re: Olds Cutlass Hood Liner
Re: buncha damn idiots!
RE: THM200 General question...
Re: THM200 General question...
1972 Cutlass
Re: THM200 General question...
I'll be back
Re: THM200 General question...
To All

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:43:52 -0500
From: Doug Newman <newmand@WCBI.com>
Subject: Re: Hood insulation

	Angel Castrodad wrote:

	Does anyone know if I can still get original hood insulation for
an '86 442
	from GM? Or is there someone else that carries this part?

	Angel, I replaced the hood insulation in my '87 in late 1993
with a factory original that I ordered from my local dealer.  The hood
insulation pad should still be available from GM.  (Make sure you get
some new plastic clips to go with it.)

	Later,

	Doug Newman         OCA # 30311
	Columbus, MS
	1987 442

	http://www.442.com/newman.html
	http://www.442.com/newmantape.html
	

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:33:52 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: conv. top replacement

>looking to replace the top on my 66 88>>Is this a do it yourself job or
should I pay someone to do it?
>Who should I buy the top from, are they all the same?>



I just had a new top put on this past winter.  In my opinion, I DON'T
suggest you install a new top yourself.  Unless you can live with a less
than perfect job, try it if you must.

Replacing convertible tops is very time consuming and tedious work.  Not to
mention expensive if you mess the first one up.  I almost attempted mine but
am so glad I didn't!

Call around, since prices in my area varied quite a bit.  Don't forget to
have the framing painted since your replacing the top.  This is something
you could do yourself.  (satin black)

{Other suggestions}

Check your hoses.  If their stiff and don't flex real well, replace them!
Check both pistons.  See if the "push rods" are bent or if the cylinder(s)
is leaking.  If so, replace them!

All of this is much easier (and usually cheaper) if you do it while the top
is being replaced.  I replaced the entire system; pump/motor, hoses, both
pistons, cables and pads for $1,400   I know a guy that found a "back yard"
interior guy that replaced the top for under $700 and it looks great!  So
shop around.

Lastly, there are many different kinds of top thickness' and varied
material.  If your trying to get OEM material, request it and ask for a
sample swatch.  Don't look at just the cost when comparing replacement tops.

Just my advice.  Hope it helps you out.  Good luck!

=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:50:08 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: radio

Josh,

Thats just the ticket I was looking for. The prices are very reasonable
too.
I will be contacting them shortly.

Thanks alot.

Mark Hahn
75 delta 88 royale conv

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:55:38 -0500
From: "patrick derkacz" <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Subject: Re: degreeing camshaft

I just ordered a cam from DMR for my 69 442 conv.  I rebuilt the motor this
winter when the heads were off. How do you degree the cam with the heads on?
Can someone walk me through the whole process or point me to an article?

Any help is appreciated.

patrickd@wwnet.com

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:59:48 EDT
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Subject: Fwd: VERY IMPORTANT!

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:13:00 -0500
From: Albert Meyer <Olds@AustinTX.net>
Subject: Re: '87 442 wheels 4sale

Yes, these guys are great. I had to redrill some centerlines to fit a
different car, and they were the only place I could find that would that
would touch it. I was worried it would be off by a fraction of an inch and
cause vibration, but I rebalanced the wheels and they were perfect up to
150. My friend had them widen some wheels for him, and they got the offset
wrong, but I don't think they screw up very often, because they felt really
bad about it. They fixed the wheels AND gave his money back. They do
straighten bent wheels and I'm sure they would do a great job at that also.

At 02:33 PM 6/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
>........the rookie at the shop bent one of my precious wheels.  After
>playing phone tag and reaching an agreement with the management they
>agreed to purchase a new wheel for me.  Of course you cannot find these
>wheels anyway but it was worth a shot.
>
>      **************************************************
>Have you tried sending it to Stockton Wheel?  I've read that they can
>fix or rebuild almost any wheel.
>
>Stockton wheel
>648 W. Freemont
>Stockton,CA 95203
>209-464-7771
>sales@stocktonwheel.com
>
>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:20:32 EDT
From: <MFATZII@aol.com>
Subject: Hot Wheels

Just found an ad for what is to believed to be a "Limited Edition Set" of
four, hot wheels.       One of the four is a  68' 442  (black  I  think) with
white top and hood stripes. The other three are a rustang,  crapmaro, and a
changer.  my question is: would anybody in their right mind spend $40.00 ??

Ryan
56 88 4dr
85 CSB

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:29:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 72 pcs wanted?

   I'm in great need of some parts for my newly purchased '72 olds.
cutlass supreme....i'm basicly searchin' for someone parting out their
'72 but alone parts will do just the same....here's what i need....
 front grilles
 front hood
 interior bench seats(front and back)
 350 rocket engine('69-'72)please...
 front bumper
 and a front left fender(right if facing car in front)
===============
I might have usable grilles, not perfect, not expensive either.
Got a hood for sure. They're plentiful.
Prolly got seats.
Got a 350 motor. Why not include '68? same as '69.
Prolly got front bumper.
No fender.
- --
now..

The left fender is on the CAR's left, not "left as you face it from the front"-
you are facing backwards at that point. Imagine you ARE the car when
determining LH/RH. 'kay?

and, you really should mention where in the country you are when considering
heavy items such as engines.

See:
- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:30:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: wrong coolant pump

You got the wrong pump.  There's two, one is 1/2" longer (for A/C
cars).  Seems like you got an a/c waterpump.  Take it back and next
time check the part at the counter for length.
- - -greg
=================
Actually, there are 3 different snout lengths:
5", 5.5", and 6" from gasket surface to pulley mount surface. Measured by tape
measure, +/- about 1/8"...
- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:34:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: gold rims

They're "officially" discontinued by GM, even though if you call a
dealership they probably will tell you they are available...until you
actually try to order them. Having said that, by being discontinued, they
are considered NOS (New Old Stock) and the dealer has the ability to set
whatever price he wants. I had a wonderful (and patient) Olds dealer in
Rochester, NY  representing me, and the best price they could negotiate with
the Mass dealer was $400 each. I have no idea what they would charge a
customer off the street.
============================
Wow, I had 4 NOS ones at the centennial swap meet for $1000, no one even
inquired. Go figure. That happens a lot.

I paid [insert absurdly low amount here] for them at a YARD SALE a couple yrs
back. Check your yard sales, folks. Finds so far:
Gold wheels
70 W30 carb
68 Vista Cruiser whole thing, paid $50.
- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:35:18 EDT
From: <MFATZII@aol.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: ISO '56 Olds Parts

I'm not too much help with finding parts for the 56, but I know where several
55's are at.  Maybe the gas pedal from one of them would fit.  I'm am very
interested in hearing all about your 56 4 dr sedan.....I have one almost
exactly like it.......I'm still in the restore process and my seats should be
done this weekend.  Pretty excited!  See it at
<A HREF="http://www.mergetel.com/%7Elee/cutlass/rides/wieders2/">Click here:
Ryan Wiederstein's 1956 Olds 88 Sedan</A>

Ryan  <-------mail me direct  (MFatzII@aol.com)
56 88 4dr
85 CSB

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:32:36 -0700
From: "Randy A. Geisel" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels

Depends if you want to play with a toy or the real thing!

Randy

- ----------

> Just found an ad for what is to believed to be a "Limited Edition Set" of
> four, hot wheels.       One of the four is a  68' 442  (black  I  think)
with
> white top and hood stripes. The other three are a rustang,  crapmaro, and
a
> changer.  my question is: would anybody in their right mind spend $40.00
??
>
> Ryan
> 56 88 4dr
> 85 CSB

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:51:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 64 parts

I knew I shoulda never gotten rid of that '64.
- ----------

 P-R-N-D-S-L - i need the whole shifter and console  and accesories.
also,im looking for two SSI mags. joe  64 olds cutlass f-85
- ------------------------------
ooops? no 3-speed AT's in '64!

- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:52:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: buncha damn idiots!

"Anyone who drives slower than you is an Idiot....
 Anyone who drives faster than you is a Maniac..."
- ------------------------------
Boy, there sure seems to be alotta idiots driving around me since I got the 442
out again.

- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:53:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 67 pcs

Hey;
     Does anybody have the bar that runs up from the lower core support to
the upper and has the hood latch built in for a 67 442\cutlass? I need one
and my car is just about ready for paint and the front end re-installed.
Any guidence would be appreciated.Also,how about a windshield wiper motor?
I know that year one (or sombody)sells new or reman,but I have spent enough
money already,and I can always Rain-x,since you can't drive somthing like
this in the IN winter,anyway.Also,I am looking for a rear bumper for a 442
67.Mine is not damaged(much)but rusty,as far as the chrome on it.I know I
can buy rechromed,but as I said with the motor,I rather not.
           I am also having trouble putting my power steering on the 455
with 425 heads and intake.All the holes are there,but it doesn't line up as
I remember. Thanks Tony

- ------------------------------
I can probably help, mail me back. Digest... what you gonna do?

- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:51:18 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Time to vote

At 09:14 AM 6/10/98 -0700, Chris Sparks wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Its time to vote again
>
>http://151.196.92.129/interactive-car-show/showrooms/showroom2.html

...

Would there be a good way to track our cars as they go into the voting
booths?  It seems that at least one list member's car is up for votes all
the time.

BTW, Frosty's sweet lookin---she's got my vote...

Jason Adcock      OCA# 28044       1984 Cutlass Calais Coupe
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu       http://www.erols.com/adcockjk

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:54:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Why do you do this?

[[snip the ENTIRE contents of a Chermack list]]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Hey;  I remeber another thing I need:Drivers side black C|S door liner-I am
missing everything that hangs on the liner(strip that runs along mid-way to the
bottom).Please reply. tony
- ------------------------------
You do this just to P... me off, don;t you?

Well, it ain't workin'... yet.

Here's a quarter [flips it over to him]... go buy a clue?
- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:56:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: SF motor id

Also, how can you tell if the engine is the "Starfire" option
(370 HP with 10.5:1 compression)?  Jim Bauman
==============
I think the ID code on the front of the RH head starts with S for Starfire, T
for Toro.

Look for drill spot on vertical rib on RH end of block id# shelf- not a SF
only thing, but let us know.

- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:57:43 -0400
From: super442@mindspring.com
Subject: 120 mph conversion

To all,
      To all you G-body fans wanting a 120 speedometer,I talked to "Clock
doc" today .They can make em' .But sit down...They want between
$150-$225.That's the price you pay for "custom" I guess.They are able to
make it register whatever you want,but after 120 they would be very small.I
guess I'll keep the one I got,and all the 85 mph's till I find some more.
              later,John

If anyone still interested on what the factory 120 looks like,hit me direct.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:11:54 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: wrong coolant pump

>Actually, there are 3 different snout lengths:
>5", 5.5", and 6" from gasket surface to pulley mount surface. Measured by
tape
>measure, +/- about 1/8"...

I beleive 330's used the real short 5" pump.
I have seen some rebuilt pumps that supossedly fit 330's but had a longer
shaft (sticking out of the short pump body) so they measured 5.5"

watch out 330 owners, it can make finding a waterpump hard to find :(
__
The old adage about "The early bird catches the worm", only serves
to prove, that the worm would have been better off if he stayed in bed .
                                                                :Lazarus Long

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:26:39 -0400
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: 72 pcs wanted? (hood)

I have the original hood from my '71 cutlass supreme in great shape.
The clear coat bubbled off, but obviously you would paint it.  No
rust.  I don't have the trim on it, I used it on my OAI hood.  It's
located near Washington D.C. if interested.

- -greg
zimmermangm@msn.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Brown Witt <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>; me from
myself <wittchri@pilot>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 7:30 PM
Subject: 72 pcs wanted?


>   I'm in great need of some parts for my newly purchased '72 olds.
>cutlass supreme....i'm basicly searchin' for someone parting out
their
>'72 but alone parts will do just the same....here's what i need....
> front grilles
> front hood
> interior bench seats(front and back)
> 350 rocket engine('69-'72)please...
> front bumper
> and a front left fender(right if facing car in front)
>===============
>I might have usable grilles, not perfect, not expensive either.
>Got a hood for sure. They're plentiful.
>Prolly got seats.
>Got a 350 motor. Why not include '68? same as '69.
>Prolly got front bumper.
>No fender.
>--
>now..
>
>The left fender is on the CAR's left, not "left as you face it from
the front"-
>you are facing backwards at that point. Imagine you ARE the car when
>determining LH/RH. 'kay?
>
>and, you really should mention where in the country you are when
considering
>heavy items such as engines.
>
>See:
>--
>Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
>1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
>Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
>--

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:21:38 EDT
From: <OldsGuyGA@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 67 Delta 88 convertible

we'll mr berusch..i parked the delta today...

(1) i'm going out of town fri
(2) the A/C doesn't work

 the oil lt prob is intermitent (sp)
 it's a boat....i'm selling it I think...

really want another rag top if i can get one right..or a smaller car....

do you have any extra motors.. found 64 dynamic 88 wagon on the net  394 motor
around the corner from me....

later jeff......

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:20:58 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: H*lp!!! Need it in a HURRY!!

At 05:15 PM 6/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>H*lp!!  I was taking my distributor out when I heard the silver rod that
is on
>the bottom of the distributor fall into my oil pan. The engine is on a stand
>and I had just finished putting in my oil pan and timing cover gaskets. I
>guess I am going to have to drop the oil pan and get the rod out. My question
>is WHY WOULD THAT ROD FALL INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN? Is there something
>I did wrong with the distributor? There is a round spring about the size of a
>silver dollar.

that rod goes from the pump to the distributor ( you knew this :) )
when it is in the pump it cant fall into the pan, but if it sticks in the
distributor it
can fall out and drop into the pan. there is a round lock washer that holds
the
rod into the pump (this usually breaks when removing a distributor that has
been
in an engine for a couple decades and the pump drive rod comes out as if it
were
part of the distrbutor.

You can drop the rod into the pump and then install the distributo and it
will be fine.
__
The old adage about "The early bird catches the worm", only serves
to prove, that the worm would have been better off if he stayed in bed .
                                                                :Lazarus Long

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:38:05 PDT
From: "Keith Reese" <supakeef@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 72 pcs wanted?

>From oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca Wed Jun 10 16:30:59 1998
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>Subject: 72 pcs wanted?
>To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca, wittchri@pilot (me from myself)
>Date:	Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:29:36 -0400 (EDT)
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>
>   I'm in great need of some parts for my newly purchased '72 olds.
>cutlass supreme....i'm basicly searchin' for someone parting out their
>'72 but alone parts will do just the same....here's what i need....
> front grilles
> front hood
> interior bench seats(front and back)
> 350 rocket engine('69-'72)please...
> front bumper
> and a front left fender(right if facing car in front)
>===============
>I might have usable grilles, not perfect, not expensive either.
>Got a hood for sure. They're plentiful.
>Prolly got seats.
>Got a 350 motor. Why not include '68? same as '69.
>Prolly got front bumper.
>No fender.
>--
>now..
>
>The left fender is on the CAR's left, not "left as you face it from the
front"-
>you are facing backwards at that point. Imagine you ARE the car when
>determining LH/RH. 'kay?
>
>and, you really should mention where in the country you are when
considering
>heavy items such as engines.
>
>See:
>--
>Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
>1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
>Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
>--
>thankx for the information...i needed that....i live in connecticut and
i really don't know much about the shippin' business but i know that i
want the parts you have for sale...just give me a total price and we'll
go from there.....
                                            Thankx Your a Lifesaver,
                                                         SupaKeef


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:43:45 -0400
From: Jim & Jo Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: H*lp!!! Need it in a HURRY!!

Jim

        The ONLY way that rod fell back into the pan is if the oil pump is
not on the engine. I've seen it come out with the distributor if someone
didn't install the rod clip, but never fall into the pan. It's held into the
engine by the oil pump. It can not go down to the pan if that pump is there.

Jim Chermack

At 05:15 PM 6/10/1998 EDT, you wrote:
>H*lp!!  I was taking my distributor out when I heard the silver rod that is on
>the bottom of the distributor fall into my oil pan. The engine is on a stand
>and I had just finished putting in my oil pan and timing cover gaskets. I
>guess I am going to have to drop the oil pan and get the rod out. My question
>is WHY WOULD THAT ROD FALL INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN? Is there something
>I did wrong with the distributor? There is a round spring about the size of a
>silver dollar. What is the spring for, and does it belong on my distributor?
>Is there a way that I can prevent the rod dropping into the oil pan again? In
>a way, I am lucky that the engine is still on the stand, but boy I sure don't
>want to have to put new gaskets on again :(  Can someone please H*LP?
>
>The list members have been a great source of information for me. I mentioned
>before I am restoring a 70 Rallye350 and I'm a real novice when it comes to
>this stuff! Hopefully somebody can bail me out again!
>
>Thanks,
>Jim McKeague
><A HREF="http://members.aol.com/DROLDS350/W45.html">
>http://members.aol.com/DROLDS350/W45.html</A>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:48:45 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: All read this -- List FAQ

I finally put a FAQ type page up on my webpage.  Some of the most often 
repeated
problems and concerns are addressed there.  I've got it linked at the bottom of
my *sig file.  Anyone else is invited to do the same, in hopes that the
repetition will make it more convenient.  To do so, just add this line on your
sig files.  (Cut&Paste works great!)

http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm

You can label it however you want.  Any other suggestions are welcomed.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:55:04  -0400
From: scott or sharon <jerdan@erols.com>
Subject: Day at the Races

Hello,

Some of us from the Olds Centennial Club in Baltimore, MD are going to go to
the old nostalgia drags at 70-80 Dragway in Monrovia (just south of
Frederick/Mount Airy) this Sunday if the weather holds.  The track opens at
9:00 AM.  Any list members in the Baltimore/Washington area interested come
on down.  The track has a web site, www.7580dragway.com directions and other
information can be found there.  Hope to see some of you there.

Scott Jerdan
70 W-30 442

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:17:25 EDT
From: <GECKO442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Hot Wheels

WOW, that's $10 bucks a car.........

I don't even think an avid collector would pay that much.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:39:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Pajak <jspajak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Glad to be Back

      Greetings folks. I'm back on the list! We finally got a PC here
at home....no more sneaking time at work to read all these messages!
      The Oldsmo-garage is not finished yet but is coming along
well.....I'm putting shingles on now. I've been driving the 70 W30
back and forth to work...makes a great communter car :)
      I do plan on hitting the dragstrip again this year. I only went
once last year in our 71 Supreme. I ran a 16.12/83 MPH......not as
fast as the 72 W30 but still fun. You'll hear all about it when I do.

==
John Pajak
Lexington Park, Maryland

Check out our Oldsmobiles and more at
http://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak


_________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:58:01 EDT
From: <Iam2XL@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Better Tuneage & Points

CD players are nice, but nothing beats an old rock song blaring out of that
tinty speaker in the dash.  Keep it stock.

I was talking to my best friend's dad, and he tells me that in the old days,
rather than going with the stock points for his cars, he used truck points,
which have a contact surface about four times the size of OEM points.  Does
anyone know of a particular part that will fit in a GM V-8 distributor, and
has anyone else tried this?

Duane Ambroz
1970 Cutlass Supreme convertible

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:04:33 EDT
From: <Iam2XL@aol.com>
Subject: Re: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions

GM changed the way they listed horsepower in 1971, I think.  The 1970 and
prior engines were rated by unencumbered horsepower.  1917 and up were rated
at horsepower under a load.

Also, emission and insurance concerns caused a gradual downgrading of engine
performance beyond 1970.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:22:34 EDT
From: <DEOVIVERE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Letters needed for 65 Olds

In a message dated 98-06-09 10:06:51 EDT, you write:

<<  need the chrome letters S and M (from OldSMobile) for
 the trunk of my '65 Ninety Eight. Anybody have these
 or know of a good source? >>

Hi Jim -

I recently pulled the the D off of a 65 Starfire for my 65 Cutlass in a parts
yard that I frequent here in VA.  You can try a yard near to you, or I could
grab them for you the next time I go there (perhaps in the next couple of
weeks).

Tom Simmons

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:33:03 -0400
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Non-olds, but please help!

Hello all!

I apologize for the subject matter being quite inappropriate for this
forum, but I am in need of help.  Seeing as how many of us here can be
considered for the lack of better terms "car guys" I need to pose this
question.  I recently purchased a '78 F*rd F-150 and I've been doing
work to it regularly.  Its been lifted by about 6 inches and has 35"
BFG's.  I live in Massachusetts, and I need to find out if anyone knows
off-hand or could point me to someone who knows the laws regarding
height limitations on trucks.  Now, I have been in contact with State
Troopers, local police, people at the Registry and the DOT and so far I
have got about 6-8 different answers.  I have had problems with this
situation before with my Bronco (i'll never learn).  If anyone has any
info, even if it is for another state, I would really appreciate it.
Thank you in advance, and again, I apologize for the off-subject post
again.

Daniel R. Gerow
Soon to be incarcerated by "the Man" for too much vehicular fun...

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Daniel R. Gerow
WSHL General Manager
http://www.stonehill.edu/wshl
http://wwww.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:40:44 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: HP Ratings...  Was: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions

> GM changed the way they listed horsepower in 1971, I think.  The 1970 and
> prior engines were rated by unencumbered horsepower.  1971 and up were rated
> at horsepower under a load.

Now, it's been a while since this has been hashed around, but is it ~possible~
to produce horsepower ~without~ a load?  After all, horsepower (loosely
described) involves work and time, and an unencumberred engine has no work to
do, right?  Can't do work?  Can't make HP.

I've never heard of the carmakers changing the methods of rating power that
way.  They did, at times, measure HP at the drive wheel, which is a
~considerably~ different figure.  Anyone heard otherwise?  The ~major~ change 
in
HP in '71 is, I'm afraid, a true reflection of power starvation.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:45:57 -0500
From: JR <joertexas@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: buncha damn idiots!

Chris Brown Witt wrote:

> "Anyone who drives slower than you is an Idiot....
>  Anyone who drives faster than you is a Maniac..."
> ------------------------------

Anyone who drives faster than I do is flying too low...

JR

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:55:32 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: HP Ratings...  Was: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions

Hope this helps a little..beginning in 1972, hp and torque are SAE net
figures. Measured at rear of transmission with all accessories installed and
operating. It also appears that GM, in most cases, lowered the rpm at which
the hp figures are drawn from. No idea why they did that, but you'll notice
every year just about, is measured at different RPM. 1971 was the big drop in
compression ratios.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:57:12 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Non-olds, but please help!

I'd reply personally, but I've seen similar situations that may apply to any
vehicle on the road (no, no, no, I'm not talking about jacked up 4X4 Olds's,
don't worry!:)

Actually, to ~keep~ it Olds related, I'll cite a specific example.  When I
bought the Rockit in '89, I purchased in North Dakota.  In ND, at the time, the
tags stayed with the car, not the owner.  I had to transfer to Montana.  
Created
a hassle.  They gave me a 2" square window sticker, and told me that would act
as the 20 day sticker we use.  I get home, and get pulled over the same day.
Can't have both sticker and plates on the car, he says.  I tell him that I 
can't
register it as a MT car until the title gets transferred to MT.  Being
unfamiliar with the situation, he said, "well, it's not right, but I don't know
what to do.  I guess if Buddy (the local Highway Patrol) pulls you over, do 
what
~he~ says.  Got pulled over the next day by another cop.  Went through the
~exact~ same thing.  Still didn't know what to do.  Well, after about a week,
and getting pulled over about six times, and still no knowledge of what 
~should~
be done, I got my title.  Being a Sunday, I couldn't do anything about it
anyway.  Just so happens our local Highway Patrol followed me home.  Pulled up
on the curb and started talking about my car.  "Ya know those plates are
wrong?"  "Yeah, I'd gotten that idea, nobody knows what I should do about 'em!"
Turns out I just needed to remove the plates, and be fine, technically, but
really didn't make things any simpler.  I had the title so it didn't matter
anymore.  Anyway, we went from that, to "That's a pretty nice car, what is it?"
etc, etc, etc.  The very next day, his son, who graduated with me, recieved an
85 Cutlass...  Guess he liked mine!

Anyway, from how I've had it explained with my blue neon issue, the Highway
Patrol have the final say in vehicle conditions.  When looking at all the
different law enforcement agencies out there, it becomes a little more clear.
The local police and sheriff's deputies all deal with domestics, criminal,
animal, traffic, etc.  Border officials deal with domestics, traffic, and
immigration, etc.  Highway patrols deal with traffic, traffic, and traffic.
Period.  Vehicle regulation is the primary focus of their enforcement, so it
stands to reason that they'd know the most about it.  I'd agree fully, to that
arguement.

So, to answer your question about your lifted truck, ask a local Highway patrol
officer.  I'd trust his/her word over most of the others.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:06:54 -0300
From: Raul Martinez <rmart@satlink.com>
Subject: To Chris Sparks

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	Soory but I can get you from your e-mail, so please post in this =
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:08:35 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Better Tuneage & Points

<HTML>
Duane:

<P>I think I found a solution at <A
HREF="http://www.custom-autosound.com/">Custom Autosound Mfg.</A>&nbsp; I think
I can get what I am looking for. <BR>Thanks to all for your input.

<P>Mark Hahn
<BR>75 delta 88 royale conv
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:21:36 EDT
From: <BrKLynS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 64 parts-reply to witt

im looking for that shifter from a later model cutlass-69 supreme or up to 72
p-r-n-d-s-l - 3 sped automatic-console,linkage,shifter and accessories

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:56:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Urban Myths, etc.

A bad day on the list today: 2 different (now former) members sent one of
those bogus "Warning! Email Virus" things to the list. Note, that I said
"former".

PLEASE do not forward this stuff here. As of now, doing so is cause for
instant dismissal.

On top of that, a pic got sent to the list tonight too, apparently by
accident. An apology will likely follow. Mr. Witt will soon be cranky
again... ;-)

Please read Charley Buehner's listfaq posted earlier and try to follow
those guidelines. Thanks!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:32:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 455 replaces small block

Fan clutch and assebly should be fine from the 350.  But since the 455 is
taller, you may have to shim your fan shroud for clearance.  No problem.
==================

Uhm, the sb & bb are the same as far as lower block- motor mounts holes, water
pump location/ height, etc. Therefore, the fan/ shroud relationship should not
change.

- --
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1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:35:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: *sigh*

ground away the EGR bumps in the exhaust valves
                ^^^

*sighs*  maybe he means the bumps where the AIR ports could have been.
- ---------------------
As soon as my wife finds another job the checking account will be unfrozen and
I will be able to buy a set of headers and Eldebrock 4 barrel carb to match my
new intake.
 =================
Dang, you got your wife to work 2 jobs to support your obsession? ;-)

- --
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:35:56 -0500
From: Albert Meyer <Olds@AustinTX.net>
Subject: Re: HP Ratings...  Was: '72 Cutlass Supreme and '73 98 questions

This could be just rumor, but I believe the lower RPM is because some kind
of law (EPA?) limited power/weight ratios (or maybe just HP) in the early
70's, so the manufacturers played all kinds of tricks to lower their
reported HP ratings.

At 10:55 PM 6/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hope this helps a little..beginning in 1972, hp and torque are SAE net
>figures. Measured at rear of transmission with all accessories installed and
>operating. It also appears that GM, in most cases, lowered the rpm at which
>the hp figures are drawn from. No idea why they did that, but you'll notice
>every year just about, is measured at different RPM. 1971 was the big drop in
>compression ratios.
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:38:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: cryopoop

A Cryosoaked block will not walk, shift or flex---- results , serious
horsepower & torque gains.
==================
Oh, I see.
Not "it's stiffer, and will flex *less*"
but, "will not... flex."

Perfect rigidity, wow, all that crap they taught in college about materials
having a modulus of rigidity was all just BS eh? Ok...

Maybe they'd care to correct this with realistic wording, maybe even actual
numbers of how much the modulus of rigidity increases, EXACTLY, in various
materials....

I wait with bated breath...

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1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:41:55 EDT
From: <DiscoPonch@aol.com>
Subject: Broken rocker arms

Hello? I am like really green to this list (about 15 seconds), but I have a
question that I can't get an answer anywhere else.

I have a 403 that has studs and individual pivots instead of bridged pivots in
the rocker arms. My problem is that within the last year, I have broken two
studs (not from over-torquing), two push rods have punched through the rocker
arms, and just yesterday, the entire base of a rocker arm broke, which
thrashed the pivot and stud. This problem is not new, because when I bought
the car, the glove box was full of replacement rocker parts. I have since then
repleneshed the supply a few times.

My question is: where can I get a new pivot? No one seems to even know what
the pivot is even when I show them. All the parts counters want to sell me a 3
piece bridge, or worse, a one piece. I like the idea of a stud because at the
rate I break stuff, my heads would be stripped of threads by now. I am sure I
am not the only person that has studs but I don't know where to look for info
because this is my first Olds. Any leads would be great. Thanks,
Kerry

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:40:33 -0400
From: "J.P. Begley" <ksp274@mis.net>
Subject: Date:	Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:40:33 -0400

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:46:10 -0400
From: Jim & Jo Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Broken rocker arms

Kerry

        Your problem is the stud and individual rocker arms. Olds engines
were not designed to do so unless you've machined the heads for Roller
Rockers or run a Competition Cams roller tipped rocker. If using the stamped
rocker you MUST use either the three piece bridges or the one piece like the
originals. Pull the stude and put the original type system back in it and
I'd bet good money your rocker arm problems vanish.

Jim Chermack

At 11:41 PM 6/10/1998 EDT, you wrote:
>Hello? I am like really green to this list (about 15 seconds), but I have a
>question that I can't get an answer anywhere else.
>
>I have a 403 that has studs and individual pivots instead of bridged pivots in
>the rocker arms. My problem is that within the last year, I have broken two
>studs (not from over-torquing), two push rods have punched through the rocker
>arms, and just yesterday, the entire base of a rocker arm broke, which
>thrashed the pivot and stud. This problem is not new, because when I bought
>the car, the glove box was full of replacement rocker parts. I have since then
>repleneshed the supply a few times.
>
>My question is: where can I get a new pivot? No one seems to even know what
>the pivot is even when I show them. All the parts counters want to sell me a 3
>piece bridge, or worse, a one piece. I like the idea of a stud because at the
>rate I break stuff, my heads would be stripped of threads by now. I am sure I
>am not the only person that has studs but I don't know where to look for info
>because this is my first Olds. Any leads would be great. Thanks,
>Kerry
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:48:21 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: Olds Cutlass Hood Liner

Steve Ochs wrote:
>
> Message text written by Angel
> >A friend of mine recently bought one for his '87 Grand National (original)
> from our local GM dealer (Simpson Olds/Buick in Downey, Ca).... I asked
> if they had one for my '86 442, and the guy said yeah.... It cost him about
> $100....<
>
> I just bought one for my 1987 and it was $23.   The GN has a special one
> with a logo on it, the 442 just uses the standard Cutlass liner

Has any company branched into making custom ones yet?
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:51:00 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: THM200 General question...

Steve Ochs wrote:
>
> Message text written by Jason Adcock
> >..Ahhh....leave it to the good man Steve to fill me in!  :-)<
>
> Yes, but I still haven't found the gear ratios for the 200C yet.

How long would a THM200C last behind a 455?  <G>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:00:06 EDT
From: <DiscoPonch@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Broken rocker arms

In a message dated 6/11/98 3:50:01 AM

> Your problem is the stud and individual rocker arms. Olds engines
>  were not designed to do so unless you've machined the heads for Roller
>  Rockers or run a Competition Cams roller tipped rocker.

Like I said, this is my first Olds, (actually in a Pont), and you make more
sense than anything I have been able to come up with. The speed of you reply
is greatly appreciated, and hopefully by morning, I will have all my pivots
replaced with bridges. Thanks again,
kerry

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:57:58 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: 120 mph conversion

super442@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> To all,
>       To all you G-body fans wanting a 120 speedometer,I talked to "Clock
> doc" today .They can make em' .But sit down...They want between
> $150-$225.That's the price you pay for "custom" I guess.They are able to
> make it register whatever you want,but after 120 they would be very small.I
> guess I'll keep the one I got,and all the 85 mph's till I find some more.

Next time you talk to him...  See what a factory sweeper saying 120
would cost..  <G>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:00:51 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Cutlass Hood Liner

> > I just bought one for my 1987 and it was $23.
> Has any company branched into making custom ones yet?

At a cost of $23, the aftermarket probably wouldn't see a very profitable item,
unless they did some cool stuff to it.  I bet someone could do some digging at
upholstery shops and get someplace to silkscreen (or similar) a "442" or a
Rocket logo on a blank one for a minimal cost, though.  Anyone care to check
into that?  I'm sure you'd find it ~way~ under $100.

I think Year One still makes 'em for the older cars, too.

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:00:59 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: buncha damn idiots!

JR wrote:
>
> Chris Brown Witt wrote:
>
> > "Anyone who drives slower than you is an Idiot....
> >  Anyone who drives faster than you is a Maniac..."
> > ------------------------------
>
> Anyone who drives faster than I do is flying too low...

I like that one!!  Soon to be reappearing on a signature file nearest
you...

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:11:53 -0500
From: Doug Newman <newmand@WCBI.com>
Subject: RE: THM200 General question...

Jerry Christopher jokingly asked:

	
	How long would a THM200C last behind a 455?  <G>


	About as long as it would take for you to stick your foot in it
for the first time...  :-)

	Doug Newman         OCA # 30311
	Columbus, MS
	1987 442

	

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:12:28 -0400
From: "Andersons" <robertan@cfw.com>
Subject: Re: THM200 General question...

That trans. is a piece of stuff.  I had one crap out 3 times in 60k miles in
an '84 Cutlass (with a V6!).  Finally swapped over to THM350- bit rougher
shifting, but no problems.
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From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 11:52 PM
Subject: THM200 General question...


>Steve Ochs wrote:
>>
>> Message text written by Jason Adcock
>> >..Ahhh....leave it to the good man Steve to fill me in!  :-)<
>>
>> Yes, but I still haven't found the gear ratios for the 200C yet.
>
>How long would a THM200C last behind a 455?  <G>
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>           Mailto:ithefunki@viperlink.net
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>

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:11:42 EDT
From: <SPINALMAN@aol.com>
Subject: 1972 Cutlass

     I have a 1972 Cutlass Supreme convertible that I purchased new in 1972.
It runs great and I have logged over 272,000 miles.  Same engine.
     I know I have a rare car.  It has a manual three speed transmission, ON
THE COLUMN.  Does anyone have information telling how many Cutlass's were made
with 3-on-the-tree for the 1972 model year?
Jan H. Gerhart
Lancaster, PA

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:19:47 +0600
From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Subject: Re: THM200 General question...

>How long would a THM200C last behind a 455?  <G>

'Bout 30 seconds on purče...er, drive. :)

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:11:05 EDT
From: <DiscoPonch@aol.com>
Subject: I'll be back

Ok...at the rate this list is moving, It is easy to see my mail box will be
bombed by the end of tomorrow. Not only will I piss you guys off with dead
mail, but the Pontiac list I subscribe to also. I am not trying to eat and
run, I am just going to unsubscribe and re-subscribe with a different address.
That way all is cool. I'll be back,
Kerry

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:11:09 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: Re: THM200 General question...

Andersons wrote:
>
> That trans. is a piece of stuff.  I had one crap out 3 times in 60k miles in
> an '84 Cutlass (with a V6!).  Finally swapped over to THM350- bit rougher
> shifting, but no problems.

I got a 140K on this behind a 307, seems tight as my old 350 was in my
78 LeSabre.

For reference, a THM-400 is planned to back the 455, I just wanna know
how much time I may have to get the motor in and attempt to drive it,
while getting tranny money.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:20:11 -0400
From: super442@mindspring.com
Subject: To All

Earlier this evening I made a mistake and attached a picture and sent
through the   list. I do sincerly apologize, as this was intended to be a
one to one reply. I had several request for the pic and inadvertenly
addressed wrong.
Again, my apologies,
John

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