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oldsmobile-digest       Saturday, July 18 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1375



Re: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser
Re: Car Humor (Riddle) <<Long>> - solution
Convertible Top Color
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1374
Re: Exhaust Bolts
Re: Car Humor (Riddle)
convertable??????
Re: Car Humor (Riddle) <<Long>>
MSD Box Warranty?
SS Chrome Rings
Reminder: Chicago area, Aug. 2, '98: Illinois Rail Museum Car    Meet
RE: '78 - '80 hurst olds parts, anybody?
Compression Ratio
RE: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser
Re: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser
Re: SS Chrome Rings
Re: convert color
RE: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser
Re: Chrome SSIs (was: wheel choices)
Re: recovering seats
Re: convertable??????
Re: '72 VIN's {Location to look + possible typo}
Re: convertable??????
Re: '72 VIN's {Location to look + possible typo}
Re: recovering seats
Re: Chrome SSIs (was: wheel choices)
question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?
Re: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?
Re: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?
Re: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?
Need some help
OCA Nat's News - Bad
Hi! I am new
Re: Muffler recomendations(flowmasters)
Re: Hi! I am new
Adam's Future F-85 was: Hi! I am new
Re: Adam's Future F-85 was: Hi! I am new
FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro
Re: Adam's Future F-85 was: Hi! I am new
Re: Adam's Future
Re: Hi! I am new
Re: '72 VIN's
Re: Chrome SSIs (was: wheel choices)
Re: Hi! I am new
national street car assoc.
OCA Saturday
Re: Hi! I am new
Olds in historic news
Fired the 455 (was: Break-in procedure)
Re: national street car assoc.
77 Delta rear seat...FREE
Re: Wanted: '87 442 stripes
Re: Fired the 455
Re: national street car assoc.

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:15:42 -0400
From: "George & Joan C. Lesperance" <gal1@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser

Our 1969 is this way!

RCKTPWR@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 7/16/98 6:40:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ab348@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
>
> <<
>  1. Were there ever any 4-4-2's built with bench seats and an auto on the
>  column?   >>
> Yep, I have 1, its a post too!!
> Bernie

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:43:08 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Car Humor (Riddle) <<Long>> - solution

In a message dated 98-07-17 08:54:54 EDT, you write:

<<
 Simple, the solution to the problem is move all the flavours of ice cream to
 the front of the store. Therefore it will take the same amount of time to
 pickup all the rest of the flavours as it takes to pick up vanilla. Hence
 the car doesn't have enough time to not start again.
  >>
Funny

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:28:09 -0400
From: "James E. Brady III" <James.E.Brady.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Convertible Top Color

>
>I need to put a new top on my cutlass supreme convertible
>It is white now
>what do you think looks better
>black or white top?
>just looking for opinions
>I am not sure what you look better
>white is hard to keep clean
>dave
>
I did my whole car in white not just because it was originally white but
because it would draw less heat.  It originally had a white top but I am
putting a black top on it because the only time I will have it up is in the
Winter when I want to draw heat.  Just a thought.

Jim Brady

1973 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index-8.html

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:33:58 -0400
From: "James E. Brady III" <James.E.Brady.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1374

>Subject: convert color
>
>I forgot to mention the color of the car is dark green white
>bench seat.
>
Ohh, I can get away with a black top but in your case white is the only way
to go imho.

Jim Brady

1973 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index-8.html

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:34:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: Re: Exhaust Bolts

On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Patton wrote:

>
> List,
>
>                 as an amendment to my previous post, my company makes the
> all metal self locking bolts en mass. When "we" (the mechanics I work with)
> need one we do not have, we modify a
> standard bolt to make it self locking...............
>
>         The General
>
Just how does one make a standard bolt into a self locking one?


Al Varhus
Columbus, Ohio
http://www.infinet.com/~avar
http://www.infinet.com/~avar/olds.html
Oldsmobile Club of America # 29111
  Mid Ohio Chapter #136
  Gem City Rockets


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:37:46 -0400
From: "James E. Brady III" <James.E.Brady.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Car Humor (Riddle)

Without a doubt, starter solenoid.  I have had this problem for the past
year.  The first fix, starter blanket, worked for about 6 months until I
had to perform the second fix the remote solenoid.

Jim Brady

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:41:13 EDT
From: <RICH6986@aol.com>
Subject: convertable??????

has anyone ever seen a 1981 cutlass supreme convertable because I just saw one
this morning never seen one before wondering if he did it himself or if they
actually manufactured them it looked odd but kind of cool        Rich
81,82,85 cutlass

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:56:07 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Car Humor (Riddle) <<Long>>

There used to be an old saying that, with a early CH*v diesel, if a
person walked by in the summer time with an ice-cream cone, it was too
cold to start the vehicle.  Perhaps vanilla is more dense than other
flavours and has this effect.

Of course, the saying is an exageration, and my dad's 82 6.2L diesel has
been fine for the 12 Years he's had it.

Eric Aksomitis
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed.eric.shtml

Jason Adcock wrote:
>
> This was asked of me today at work and I thought I'd post this question.
> The answer sounds pretty far out and unbelievable, but what do you guys
> think?

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:34:01 -0700
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@ibm.net>
Subject: MSD Box Warranty?

>> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:35:49 -0400
>> From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
>> Subject: fluctuating timing solved!!!

>> I bypassed the MSD box and all is back to normal.  Thank you to all
>> who suggested taking it out of the loop to see what would happen.  I'm
>> really disappointed with the unit.  It's only been in the car for a
>> year and it crapped out.

>> Ashame it quit working during my jet/rod calibration, now I need to go
>> back a retune the carb.

>> - -greg

Greg,
	I saw your post and was just curious if there was/is any warranty on 
the
MSD system?  I would certainly hope so for the amount of $$ the MSD box
costs.  Please let us know how things work out for you if it is under
warranty and how long it takes to replace/repair the box.

- -Steve
'70 4-4-2 Convertible
Austin, TX

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:57:02 -0400
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@pa.net>
Subject: SS Chrome Rings

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Have re-painted to Spectre Red ... New Black interior ..
Motor re-built from Crank up

NOW ... the car cries out for the 15 inch Chrome rings.
Is there an after-market supplier?  =20

Ken Swick
swickka@pa.net

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:15:24 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Reminder: Chicago area, Aug. 2, '98: Illinois Rail Museum Car    Meet

Only two weeks left before the 8th Annual Illinois Rail Museum
Transport Extravaganza. It will be Sunday, August 2 from 9:00 a.m.
to 6:00 p.m. in the countryside of Union, Illinois, out northwest
of Chicago just off Interstate 90.

Pre-registration for display of your Olds, which includes free
admission for you and your guests and unlimited train rides all
day, ends 7/25/1998, after which exhibitors are charged half-rate
admission ($4.00 per person) instead of free admission.

If you haven't already got a flier (which includes a signup form),
I can fax you one to send in, or you can call (630) 834-6133 for
details. The museum itself can be reached at (815) 923-4391.

NOTE: If contacting the Museum directly, remember you are in Car
Club Number 208, the "Internet Olds Club."

You can view the Rail Museum web pages at http://www.irm.org

See you there!

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:23:37 -0500
From: Chad Schwartz <ChadS@pcsco.com>
Subject: RE: '78 - '80 hurst olds parts, anybody?

Jeremy wrote:
>is there any special parts that were on on of these h/os that werent on any
>other cutlass or h/o?  i know the shifter, for one, was different, but what
>else?  also, if anyone has any of these parts, might you be interested in
>selling them?  need some goodies for my '78.    thanks,

The only Hurst Olds with that body style was '79.  In '80 they made almost
the identical car without the Hurst name and shifter calling it a 442.
Special things were the paint scheme, hurst dual gate shifter and console,
grill, W-30 stickers on the front fenders, gold aluminum rims, full gauges,
interior color, H/O emblems, steering wheel, bucket seats, 442 suspension,
fake dual exhaust, 350 Olds engine, Turbo 350 transmission, and antenna in
the wind shield.  That is about all I can think of right now.  Sorry, but I
don't have any parts for sale.

Chad Schwartz
chads@pcsco.com
mIRC: ROCKN6
Denison, IA
'87 GN  T-Tops (TE-44, 40lb Inj, Modified Stock IC, ATR Cam, JC Chip,
			 ATR 2 ½" SS Exhaust, TH 3" DP, 3" Test Pipe, ATR
Ram Air)
'79 H/O T-Tops (400 HP/430 TQ ZZ4 350 H.O. Chevy, TH350, 3.73 Posi)

"Poverty Is Owning A Race Car"  "Happiness Is A Low E.T."

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:47:07 +0800
From: Robert V W Frohlich <Tfrohlich@ntu.edu.sg>
Subject: Compression Ratio

Hi,

I have a question which I am trying to source an answer to.  Does increasing
the bore (reboring the cylinders of an engine), increase or decrease the
compression ratio?
Please reply to me personally at tfrohlich@ntu.edu.sg
<mailto:tfrohlich@ntu.edu.sg>  <mailto:tfrohlich@ntu.edu.sg
<mailto:tfrohlich@ntu.edu.sg> > .
Cheers,

Robert Fröhlich

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:34:29 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser

My '68 442 Post coupe came with buckets and auto on the column.  I'd say you
could probably have ordered it any way your heart desired.

> Our 1969 is this way!
>
> RCKTPWR@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 7/16/98 6:40:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > ab348@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
> >
> > <<
> >  1. Were there ever any 4-4-2's built with bench seats and an
> auto on the
> >  column?   >>
> > Yep, I have 1, its a post too!!
> > Bernie
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:47:54 -0400
From: "George & Joan C. Lesperance" <gal1@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser

Well we now have one for each year 67 - 69 are there any more Sports coupes 
with
post, bench seat and automatic on the column.  Buckets are acceptable also.
George ordered his from the factory as such we did see another 69 about 20 
years
ago at Detroit Dragway that the person made himself for the track.  We haven't
come across another 69 442 W-30 Sports Coupe with bench and automatic on the
column that has been factory made.  Probably Mrs. Helen Early could come up 
with
the figures on the number of such vehicles made for each year but it will take 
a
lot of research.    Joan

B. Sanders wrote:

> My '68 442 Post coupe came with buckets and auto on the column.  I'd say you
> could probably have ordered it any way your heart desired.
>
> > Our 1969 is this way!
> >
> > RCKTPWR@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 7/16/98 6:40:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > ab348@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
> > >
> > > <<
> > >  1. Were there ever any 4-4-2's built with bench seats and an
> > auto on the
> > >  column?   >>
> > > Yep, I have 1, its a post too!!
> > > Bernie
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:51:29 EDT
From: <DEOVIVERE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: SS Chrome Rings

In a message dated 98-07-17 12:05:55 EDT, you write:

<< NOW ... the car cries out for the 15 inch Chrome rings.
 Is there an after-market supplier?

 Ken Swick >>


Ken -

These can be bought new from your local Olds dealer for about $60 each in the
GM packaging.  My local Olds dealership, Templeton Olds in Tysons Corner VA
(outside of DC) cuts a special deal with OCA members, giving us all parts at
cost.  With an OCA card they cost me about $40 each and man are they
beautiful!

Tom Simmons
65 Cutlass
70 SX W-32

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:00:00 -0400
From: D Frizsell <dfrizsell@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject: Re: convert color

Black.

dave wrote:

> I forgot to mention the color of the car is dark green white
> bench seat.

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:08:21 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: UNBOUNCE: Documenting '67 4-4-2 Turnpike Cruiser

Though it seems odd to me that someone would order a sporty muscle car with
a bench and column shifter, I was once told something that makes a lot of
sense:  A bench seat weighs almost the same as a single bucket, and a column
shifter weighs significantly less than a console and shifter.  When the high
performance muscle cars were ordered with bench/column, it was usually
because the original buyer wanted to save all the weight he could so that he
could kick *ss at the drag strip.  A buddy of mine just bought a '69 442
that came originally with a bench and a 4-speed.  Now THAT is an odd
combination...  Almost as odd as buckets/column.  He bought that car from
the original owner who told him that he had bought it specifically for drag
racing...

- -Blaine

> Well we now have one for each year 67 - 69 are there any more
> Sports coupes with
> post, bench seat and automatic on the column.  Buckets are
> acceptable also.
> George ordered his from the factory as such we did see another 69
> about 20 years
> ago at Detroit Dragway that the person made himself for the
> track.  We haven't
> come across another 69 442 W-30 Sports Coupe with bench and
> automatic on the
> column that has been factory made.  Probably Mrs. Helen Early
> could come up with
> the figures on the number of such vehicles made for each year but
> it will take a
> lot of research.    Joan
>
> B. Sanders wrote:
>
> > My '68 442 Post coupe came with buckets and auto on the column.
>  I'd say you
> > could probably have ordered it any way your heart desired.
> >
> > > Our 1969 is this way!
> > >
> > > RCKTPWR@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 7/16/98 6:40:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > ab348@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > >  1. Were there ever any 4-4-2's built with bench seats and an
> > > auto on the
> > > >  column?   >>
> > > > Yep, I have 1, its a post too!!
> > > > Bernie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:26:42 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Chrome SSIs (was: wheel choices)

I've never seen a set like is being talked about here, is there any pics
around online???

If not, it sure would be nice to see some (If anyone has pics but no
web-space, I'll host the pictures, can even scan in pictures and return
originals if necessary)
Thanx
Eric Aksomitis
http:/www.dlcwest.com/~jed/gobstop.shtml  <-- Would look nice with
something like these
mailto:rosi@dlcwest.com

Sx455@aol.com wrote:
>
> specialty wheel and stockton wheel sell these wheels new . they are available
> in 14x6-7 or8 and also 15 inch sizes from 6inch on up. i called and got 
prices
> and pictures ,the 15x7s i wanted were 130.00 us dollars each i didnt price 
any
> 14s. a friend of mine has a set of 14x7s on his 70 cs and they do look great
> and for the most part original. sx455

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:31:42 -0400
From: D Frizsell <dfrizsell@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject: Re: recovering seats

I recovered a 70 bench about a year ago. I got the cover from the same place
that supply's Year One. Very nice reproduction. Matched the grain and color
perfect. Anyway, it's a different job than mechanic work for sure. Some of the
covers can be very tight to slide over the back. It was fun however, but you
will need help. Someone to help pull and tighten and keep everything straight.
The bench wasn't that bad really so a bucket may be even be easier. It depends
on how good you are at finish type work on whether you think you should tackle
it yourself or not. I'd say if you're good with your hands you could do a fine
job. One tip though, be sure and work on a good solid, and CLEAR work bench.
Cover it with old carpet or something to keep from scuffing your new set covers
as you slide and maneuver the seats around to work on them.

Good luck!

D-man

Valpal4@aol.com wrote:

> <...should i bother doing it myself or do the pros do a
> much better job?...>

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:35:31 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: convertable??????

> has anyone ever seen a 1981 cutlass supreme convertable because I just saw 
one
> this morning never seen one before wondering if he did it himself or if they
> actually manufactured them


Non-factory.  A lot of aftermarket companies converted just about ANY
car into a convertible in the mid 80s.  I suppose you could even get it
done now.  I've seen mid 80s 442s and H/Os similarly converted.  Really
nice with the top down, but, well, with the top up, it would probably be
best left in the garage.

My opinion
Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:34:13 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: '72 VIN's {Location to look + possible typo}

FYI, the URL http://www.442.com/vin.html lists these, I just found out
yesterday, it's really nice to have (Thanx to the people who built
it)!!!!! {apologies to those who already knew about it}

However, just CURIOUS, is it Framingham or Framington:

Excerpted from http://www.442.com/vin.html:
7th digit - Assembly plant - G = Framingham, MA
                             M = Lansing, Ml
                             R = Arlington, TX
                             Z = Freemont, CA

RANDY A GEISEL wrote:
> 7th digit is plant code
>
> M=Lansing, MI
> Z=Freemont,CA
> G=Framington, MA <-- ???
> R=Arlington, TX
>
> Randy

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:46:20 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: convertable??????

I Had a 74 Cutlass Supreme 4-door Converted, same idea, just add:
1 Ready for parts-donation 74 Olds Cutlass 4-dr
1 Propane / Oxygen torch
1 Idiot / excentric / genius (all are same with different age / income
level)

Without any roof, definetely best left indoors during rain-storms.
Also, note: to followers of this idea, use a Hard-top, no door-posts

Barring that, it was a neat toy and I still got all the good parts off
it after I used it for about 3 1/2 months!

Eric Aksomitis
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/cut_bl.shtml <-- Replacement for above-car,
of which I have NO pictures {arghh!!}

Mike Rothe. wrote:
> Non-factory.  A lot of aftermarket companies converted just about ANY
> car into a convertible in the mid 80s.  I suppose you could even get it
> done now.  I've seen mid 80s 442s and H/Os similarly converted.  Really
> nice with the top down, but, well, with the top up, it would probably be
> best left in the garage.

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:32:38 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: '72 VIN's {Location to look + possible typo}

>However, just CURIOUS, is it Framingham or Framington:
>
>Excerpted from http://www.442.com/vin.html:
>7th digit - Assembly plant - G = Framingham, MA

Framingham. I toured it in 1972, watching our favorite A-bodies
rolling off the line. I remember the gleaming chrome of the
fake vents on the hoods of the Cutlass Supremes, which would
sparkle in the lighting as an overhead conveyor brought the
hood down for installation on the car...   :-)  Despite our
favoritism for all things Oldsmobile, the Cutlasses were
coming off the line intermixed with Buick Skylarks and (I
assume) Chevy Malibus and Pontiac LeMans, IIRC...

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:34:09 EDT
From: <Valpal4@aol.com>
Subject: Re: recovering seats

thanks for the tips. did you orde them from year one or someplace else
ron

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:18:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Chrome SSIs (was: wheel choices)

On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Eric wrote:

> I've never seen a set like is being talked about here, is there any pics
> around online???

There is what appears to be a set on the '72 convertible in Dan Gerow's
screensaver:

 http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:35:39 EDT
From: <W30442CS@aol.com>
Subject: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?

looking to bead blast an allum. intake and then clear coat it. can anyone
recommend what is best for clear coating ?  i think eastwood makes something
for this, a guy at the local paint store said to try clear enamel paint?
sounds weak to me!  TIA,  steven,   w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:46:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?

- ---W30442CS@aol.com wrote:
>
> looking to bead blast an allum. intake and then clear coat it. can
anyone
> recommend what is best for clear coating ?  i think eastwood makes
something

Go with the Eastwood stuff,it does good, better heat resistant than
paint.They also offer a good product to polish an intake,looks
slick,but time consuming,all those little crevis'.
                         John

==
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index.html
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-Moonroof-307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index-7.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
 mailto:super442@yahoo.com


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:53:36 EDT
From: <R4C442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?

Hey Steven!
    Eastwood does indeed make what you desire. It works great on
blasted/polished
anythings.
                                                                   Ron Forsee
                                                                   65
442-Meister

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:26:34 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?

the eastwood stuff is good but does have a gloss to it if you dont want
glossy finish try krylon flat clear it is not as durable as the eastwood
stuff but I like the look better no quarrel either way judgment call
you could try to keep it clean and unfinished with mag wheel cleaner
spray but l cant vouch for any one product for this never found one I was
satisfied with just yet...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: question for list;clear coat/alluminum ?


>
>
>
>
>
>---W30442CS@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> looking to bead blast an allum. intake and then clear coat it. can
>anyone
>> recommend what is best for clear coating ?  i think eastwood makes
>something
>
>Go with the Eastwood stuff,it does good, better heat resistant than
>paint.They also offer a good product to polish an intake,looks
>slick,but time consuming,all those little crevis'.
>                         John
>
>==
>http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index.html
>1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
>1984 Cutlass-Moonroof-307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index-7.html
>1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
> mailto:super442@yahoo.com
>
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:54:27 -0700
From: Richard White <hwgmktg@sonic.net>
Subject: Need some help

>
> Hi, I have a problem.  I recently purchased a 1967 Old. Cutlass.  The
> car has been warmed up considerably and was not registered from 1992
> until now.  My problem is that I have just been diagnosed with
> congestive heart failure and I don't have the energy to finish what has
> been started.  The car has 6,000 miles on a professionaly built 400 ci.
> motor, Edlebrock manifold, 750 Holley, crane cam, headers, and more.  It
> is backed by a Turbo 400 with a B & M shift improver kit, and shifted
> with a racheted shifter.  The rear end is the weak point and has to be
> replaced.  My 17 year old daughter and I have driven the Car 300 miles
> since we got it and I'm afraid I have damaged the rear end showing off.
> The car sits on new air shocks in the back, and rides on American Mags
> 15 x 8 fronts with old TA's and 15 x 10's in the rear.
>
> The interior is all new.  Aluminum dash panel with VDO guages, no
> stereo.  Car is Corvette Yellow, interior is black.  Car shows rust
> above the windshield and below the rear window.  It will need repainting
> and resealing.  For the right person this would be a great project.
>
> I need to sell the car.  It is in Calistoga Ca., covered outside and
> will need to be trailered home.  I am asking $6,000 for car but I am
> open to offers.  Any help will be deeply appreciated.  You can email me
> at this address or call me at (707) 431-4445.  Thanks Rich White

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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1988 02:32:25 -0500
From: Brad Nicholson <brad442@erols.com>
Subject: OCA Nat's News - Bad

All,
I don't have all the details yet and will get the full story but...

OCA CEO & Journey with Olds editor Penny Casteele resigned by letter at
the OCA Board meeting on Thursday.

Brad Nicholson
OCA's WebGuy
brad442@erols.com

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:29:50 -0500
From: "craig g broussard" <ABROUSSARD@prodigy.net>
Subject: Hi! I am new

Hi,
My names is Adam Broussard. I am 15. I am buying my first car tomorrow
(Sat.).
The car is a 1962 Olds Cutlass F-85 Convertible. I live in Baton Rouge, La
adam

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:24:27 EDT
From: <Mikeytvb@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler recomendations(flowmasters)

persionally i think all mufflers do the same thing.  when i heard a well tuned
engine with a set of flowmasters behind it, i was very impressed with the
sound quality.  a friend of mine has a chebelle with a tree96 in it and 3
chamber flowmasters, and it sounds like it has a monster cam in it(not very
loud, but lots of tone to it).  i finally bought a set of headers, 2.25
mandrell bent aluminized exhaust pipes, and 2 chamber flowmasters for my car.
i didn't put the whole exhaust system on until i put a cam in the ol 403.
when i did finish building the engine and put the whole exhaust on, i didn't
like how loud it was.  i sold both the mufflers to friends of mine and they
like them(one is on a honda and the other is on a mazda).  when i buy the next
set i might try putting resonators on it or even 3 chambers.  well i got to
go.

mikey tvb@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:56:05 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Hi! I am new

Adam

        Good for you. Those are neat little cars. The convertibles are
fairly rare. Make sure it's complete. Parts are difficult to find. Good luck
tomorrow.

Jim Chermack
OCA # 24275
66 442 W-30
66 442 L-69
67 442 W-30
66 442 Race Car

At 07:29 PM 7/17/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>My names is Adam Broussard. I am 15. I am buying my first car tomorrow
>(Sat.).
>The car is a 1962 Olds Cutlass F-85 Convertible. I live in Baton Rouge, La
>adam
>
>

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:17:38 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Adam's Future F-85 was: Hi! I am new

In a message dated 98-07-17 20:39:16 EDT, you write:

<< My names is Adam Broussard. I am 15. I am buying my first car tomorrow
(Sat.). The car is a 1962 Olds Cutlass F-85 Convertible. I live in Baton
Rouge, La adam  >>

Oh man, do I hate to say this...

Adam?
Unless you have a *really* good job, or are rich, I would advise you against
buying that car.

Unless it is a "beater" with a retrofitted with a 350 motor, or so.

But convince me as to why you should buy it....

Please tell us about the car.
And yourself.
Have you "grown up" around Oldsmobiles?

Karl

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:42:36 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Adam's Future F-85 was: Hi! I am new

hey man,
my names Ryan .go ahead with the car ,i just sene one of thos
in town ,nice cars,with a real nice look to theme,plus its your first
car,there for fun anyway.(right?)
anyway,good luck the car tomorrow.


Ryan

><< My names is Adam Broussard. I am 15. I am buying my first car
tomorrow
>(Sat.). The car is a 1962 Olds Cutlass F-85 Convertible.
>
>Oh man, do I hate to say this...
>
>Adam?
>Unless you have a *really* good job, or are rich, I would advise you
against
>buying that car.



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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:55:59 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: FOR SALE: Parts 64-72 Cutlass/442/Toro

                                          C&M Classic Parts
                       1132 Chatmoss Drive, Virginia Beach, VA 23464
                                (757)474-0869, FAX (757)474-0694
                                         <chermac@exis.net>
                                               OCA# 24275

Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm,  Sat 9:00 am - 3:00 pm,  Sunday Closed
*We accept all major Credit Cards. VISA, M/C, Amer. Express, and Discover.*
Lots of new reproduction parts will be coming out Summer/Fall  98.

                                         GM Restoration Parts

New arrival "Parts"
71-72 Front Grille Plastics (N.O.S)  $35.00 ea
66 442/Cutlass Owners Manual (mint)  $12.00
64-72 Power Door Lock Solenoids  $35.00 ea
64-67 Auto Trans Flexplates  $35.00
69 ERTL Hurst/ Olds (discontinued)  $45.00
67 Front Bumper Filler Panel (mint)  $40.00
67 442/Cutlass Radiator Support (nice)  $130.00
65-67 400 Jahn's Pistons (new, + .025, floating pins)  $300.00
66-67 Fan Shroud (nice, 1 repaired bolt area)  $80.00
69-72 Tilt Steering Column (1 console, 1 column shift) $150 cons, $125 col.
64-67 Console Vacuum Gauge (nice)  $95.00
Toro Oil Pan (w/HV Melling pump and pickup) $135.00
69-72 442 Air Cleaner (correct large snorkel, reg or OAI base)  $185.00
71-72 Fan Shroud (mint)  $50.00
68-72 Z-bar  $45.00 ea
64-66 Z-Bar  $45.00
70-72 350 4 bbl Intake Manifold  $55.00
68-72 Conv. Windshield molding set (mint)  $125.00 set
68-72 4 spd. Z bar support (bolt on) $15.00
69-72 Seat Backs & Lower Sides (nice orig, black or tan)  $100.00 set
69-70 Console Neutral Safety Switch (w/bracket)  $50.00
64-67 A/C Chrome Dash Bezels (nice)  $40.00 pr
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgates Switch Bezels (mint)  $5.00 ea
65-67 425 "D" Block std bore, small lifter bore  $85.00

New Repro Parts:
64-67 Battery Tray (Repro)  $30.00
66 442 Tri-Carb Linkage Kit (complete) $78.00
67 442 Grille Bar (repro)  $96.00
67 Fender Eye Brow Moldings (LH/RH, repro)  $73.00 pr
66-67 442/Cutlass Drip Rail Moldings (NEW, repro) $78.00 set
67-70 Turn Signal Levers (repro)  $26.00 ea
67-70 Tilt Levers (repro)  $26.00 ea
67-75 TH400 Shifter Cable Bracket (Repro)  $28.00
68-72 License Plate Bracket (Repro)  $26.50
68-70 W-31 Cam Kits (w/lifters & lube)  $132.00
68-72 1/4 Glass Chrome Moldings (Repro)  $92.00 pr
69-72 Rear Spoiler (3 piece repro)  $255.00
70-72 Hood Pin Kits (NEW, original supplier, complete) $115.00
71or72 442 Grille Numeral Sets (repro, either year)  $34.00 set
71-72 442 Hood Emblem (repro, Non OAI) $20.00

New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts 1964-1972 Olds/Cutlass/442
64 BIG CAR (N.O.S.) RH Fender  $340.00
64-72 Clutch Inspection covers (N.O.S.)  $22.00 ea
68-72+ TH Torque Converter Cover (Plastic, N.O.S.)  $36.00 ea
66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
68-7? Under Hood Light kits (N.O.S.)  $35.00 ea
69-72 442 Trunk Numeral Sets (N.O.S.) $45.00 set
69-70 442 Hood Numeral Sets  (N.O.S.) $47.00 set
69-72 442 Fender Numeral Sets (N.O.S.) $34.00 set
70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
70-72 OAI Air Cleaner Springs (N.O.S)  $5.00 ea
71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr
72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
73-77 Cutlass/442/Hurst Wiper Switch (N.O.S.)  $22.00

New Aftermarket Parts
Competition Cams 280H Magnum cam (new)  $120.00
66-72 Oil Pressure Sending Unit (With Gauges)  $24.00 ea
64-87 Oil Pressure Sending Unit (W/O Gauges)  $13.00 ea
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/o tilt)  *new*  $24.00
69-72 Ignition Switch (w/tilt) *new*  $22.00
70-72 455 Engine Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $32.00 pr
64-67 330 / 68-72 350 Engine Mount (NEW)  $32.00 pr
64-72 Jetaway/TH350, 4 Spd Trans Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $14.00
350/455 Oil Pump Screens (NEW)  $13.00 ea
425/455 Toro Oil Pump Screens (NEW)  $20.00 ea
STD Melling Oil Pumps (NEW)  $30.00 ea
Hi Volume Melling Oil Pumps (NEW)  $46.00 ea
330/350 10.5 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits includes Pressure plate, disc,
throwout bearing, alignment tool. (all NEW pieces)  $135.00 + $19.00 core 
charge
400/455 11.0 in x 10 spline Clutch Kits same as above (all NEW pieces)
$135.00 +$19.00 core charge
3&4 Spd. Pilot Bushing (Bronze) new  $7.50 ea
3&4 Spd. HD Roller Pilot Bearing new  $24.50 ea

Used Parts:
64 Cutlass/442
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $75.00
64-65 Spinner Hubcab (dual bar, single)  $35.00
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00
Front Bumper Core  $50.00
F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00
64-65 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (mint)  $15.00

65 Cutlass/442
65 442 Air Cleaner Top (no base)  $125.00
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $75.00
65 Cutlass Dash Emblem (mint)  $20.00
64-65 Spinner Hubcab (dual bar, single)  $35.00
65 Cutlass 4 Door Rear Wheelwell Die cast pieces (front)  $20.00 pr
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  LH/RH rear $15.00 ea
64-65 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (mint)  $15.00

66 Cutlass/442
(1) 66-67 14x6 SSI  (good cond)  $50.00
66-67 442 Air Cleaner (1 nice, 1 good)  $85.00 (good)  $165.00 (nice)
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $75.00
66 Cutlass-67 Cutlass/442 Fenders (Arizona parts, nice)  $500.00 pr
66-67 Dash Insert (painted)  $45.00
66-67 Inner Fender Plastic Clips $1.00 ea
66 442 Trunk Chrome Panels  $150.00 ea
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Emblem $10.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Molding  $20.00
66 Fender Eybrows (nice, no pits)  $35.00 pr
66 Spinner Hubcap (Tri bar, single)  $20.00
66 Floor Shift Steering Column Collars $10.00 ea
66-67 Clocks  $40.00 ea
66 F-85 Deluxe/Cutlass Steering Wheel Center (w/hub) $20.00
66 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblem (very nice)  $20.00
66 F-85 Deluxe Dash Emblem (nice)  $5.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Molding  $35.00
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
66 Cutlass Trunk Molding (very good)  $45.00
66 Cutlass Tail Light Bezels (very good)  $85.00 pr
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00
66-67 AM Radios (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
66 Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea

67 Cutlass/442
(1) 66-67 14x6 SSI  (good cond)  $50.00
66-67 442 Air Cleaner (1 nice, 1 good)  $85.00 (good)  $165.00 (nice)
66-67 Dash Insert (painted)  $45.00
66-67 Inner Fender Plastic Clips $1.00 ea
67 442 Trunk Panel (beautiful)  $200.00
67 Deluxe Full Wheel Covers $35.00 set
66-67 Clocks  $40.00 ea
67 Cutlass Dash Emblem (good)  $10.00
67 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblems (2 very nice)  $20.00 ea
67 442/Cutlass Front Bumper Guards  $15.00 pr
67 Remote Mirror (good, not great)  $20.00
67 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (good chrome) $15.00
67 Cutlass Supreme/442 Steering Wheel Centers (mint)  $35.00
67 Fender End Caps  $30.00 pr
67 4 spd Speedometer Adapter (3.42 gears & 4spd)  $45.00
67 Plain Cutlass Holiday Hardtop interior door panels and rear sides (very
nice, blue/green) $85.00 set of 4
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $30.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $50.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $100.00 ea
67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $3.00
67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $165.00

68 Cutlass/442
68 442 Air Cleaner Heat tube assm (2 pieces)  $30.00
68-69 442 Glove Box Door (black)  $18.00
68-69 LH Plastic Inner Fender (w/black washer bottle)  $65.00
68-69 442/W-30 400 Intake Manifold  $50.00
68 Cutlass/442 Backup Lens (nice)  $22.00 pr
68 Trunk Vinyl Top Molding & Plate  $25.00
68 2 bbl Air Cleaner  $20.00
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
68 Turn Signal Lens (mint)  $12.00 ea
68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $75.00
68-69 14x6 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
68 AM Radio  $25.00
68  8-Track Unit (housing cracked, needs plastic one)  $55.00
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00
Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set
68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00
68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $25.00 ea
68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea
68-72 B-Pillar Molding Sets (black, mint) $27.50 pr

69 Cutlass/442
68-69 442 Glove Box Door (black)  $18.00
68-69 LH Plastic Inner Fender (w/black washer bottle)  $65.00
69 Front Bumper (no pits, bent from tow truck)  $85.00
69 Cutlass Grilles (mint LH, N.O.S. RH)  $140.00 pr
69 Cutlass Rear Bumper (nice, no pits, straight)  $110.00
69 Tail light Bezels (mint)  $150.00 pr
69 Head light Housings (mint)  $75.00 pr
69 Head light Bezels (mint)  $65.00 pr
69 Hood Tongue $20.00
68-69 442/W-30 400 Intake Manifold  $50.00
69 Convertible Trunk Lid (nice)  $150.00
69 Turn Signal Lens (nice)  $25.00 pr
69 Front Grille Center Filler (between grilles)  $8.00
69 Full Hubcaps (nice)  $35.00 set
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
69 Cutlass RH Grille (nice, used)  $40.00
69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
69 Headlight Bezels  $60.00 pr
69-72 Hood Hinges  $40.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $25.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $25.00 pr
68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $45.00 set
69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $200.00
69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $55.00 ea
69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $25.00 ea

70 Cutlass/442
70 Hood Tongue $40.00
70 Front Bumper (core)  $85.00
70 Fender Eybrows (nice, no pits)  $45.00 pr
70 RH Rally 350 grille (repaired, nice)  $75.00
70 LH/RH Hood "L" moldings (few small pits under side, nice) $95.00 pr
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr
70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $115.00
70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $55.00
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea
70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00
69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00
69-70 "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $25.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $25.00 pr
70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr
70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $90.00
70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens (restored)  $17.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens (restored) $23.00 ea

71 Cutlass/442
70-71 Cutlass Supreme Side Marker Lights (mint)  $70.00 set
71 LH Cutlass Supreme Grille (nice)  $85.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $30.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea
71 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr

72 Cutlass/442
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $30.00 pr
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00
72 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr
72 Tail Light Lens  $13.00 ea

73 and Newer and Big Car Parts:
66-67 TH425 Toro Transaxle  (switchpitch, very good)  $200.00
Late 73-74 Olds HEI distributors (non cumputer, w/cap and coil)  $45.00 ea
73-75 442 Console and Shifter (Maroon)  $120.00
73-77 Omega Floor Shift Tilt  $65.00
75 Omega Front Fenders (very nice pair)  $180.00 pr
75 Omega Bucket Seats (nice, maroon cloth)  $85.00 pr
66-67 Toronado Rear Bumper (very nice)  $150.00
66 Toro Batman Steering Wheel, Tilt/Tele column (black, very nice)  $145.00
72 Delta 88 Qtr End caps  $25.00 pr
72 Delta 88/ Ninety Eight Owners Manual (nice) $5.00
62 Super 88 Tail Panel Chrome  (good)  $25.00
62 Super 88 Grille (good)  $50.00
62 Big Car (88, 98, Starfire) Front Bumper (straight, very good)  $125.00


New reproduction parts:
Convertible Top Boots (Correct Grains for each different year)  $85.00ea
64  Black, Red, Lt. Blue, Fawn, Saddle, Turqoise, White
65  Same as 64
66-67 Black, Red, Light Blue, Med. Blue, Bronze, Turqoise, White, Gold
68-72 Black, Red, Parchment, Lt. Blue, Teal Blue, Green Gold, Gold, Pearl,
Dk Blue, Dk. Green, Lt. Green, Lt. Saddle, Dk Saddle, Olive Green, Royal
Blue, White, Sandalwood,

Molded Carpet Sets  $95.00
64-67 - (Black, Red, Med. Blue, Turquoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Maroon)
68-72 - (Black, Red, Maroon, Turqoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Med. Blue, Dk. Green,
Green Gold, Lt. Green, Teal Blue, Saddle, Sandalwood)
73-77 - (Same as 68-72 except Green Gold)

Door Panels  64-72  $Inquire

Seat Covers  64-72  $345.00 front and rear sets any year or color.

Vinyl Dash Overlays (makes your wood dash areas look like carbon fiber)
$50.00 set

Lifetime Guarantee on all correct bead window felts  $92.00 set (inner & outer)
66-67 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (correct bead type)
68-72 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (not Supreme Coupes, correct bead)
68-72 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv (Outers only, correct bead)  $50.00

Replacement Window Felts (Flat type)  $60.00 set (inner & outer)
64-72 Cutlass/442 (state year and model)

Glove Box Liners
64-67 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
68-69 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
70-72 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99

Qrt Seals
70-72 Cutlass Supreme & Conv Qtr End seals  $13.00 pr

Hood Insulation
64-65 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
66 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
67 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
68-70 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner (wclips)  $18.00
70-72 Cutlass Supreme Hood Liner (w/clips)  $18.00
73-77 Cutlass $28.00

Liner Clips
Round Clips  $1.00 ea
Square Clips  $1.00 ea

A-Arm Shields
68-72 Upper A-Arm dust shields  $14.99 pr

***** 69-72 "W" and "Z" exhaust manifold sets (REPRO) Winter 98 *****
       We will be test fitting and running them later this year before they
are shipped to GM for final approval. They will be available exclusively
from C&M.
Price is around $300.00 for a set. Different date codes will not be
available at this time. Maybe in the future. Delay has occurred due to
change in manufacturer.

        66-67 "X" and "W" exhaust manifold sets (REPRO) Spring 99

***** Shift Indicators for ALL console A-body 64-75 and 63 Starfires will be
available in July/August. Including Dual Gates.

        66 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $1795.00
        67 W-30 Shrouds (stamped steel, chromed) $995.00
        66 & 67 Track Pac kits (complete, just like the dealer option includes;
        shroud, ducts, hoses, cam/lifters, battery accessories)
Winter/Spring 98/99.

TOY'S:
69 442's (HotWheels size, Speed Rebels) Red $1.75 ea
Johnny Lightning Pace Cars
70 442 Pace Car (bronze or teal)  $3.50 ea
74 Hurst/Olds Pace Car (magenta)  $3.50 ea
79 Delta 88 Pace Car (White)  $3.50 ea

Others:
70 GTO Judge (Yellow) $1.75 ea

Models:
67 W-30 442 (Lindberg)  $14.00 ea

Odds and Ends (not Olds, but GM parts we have lying around)
70-74 Trans Am Exhaust Tips (N.O.S)  $150.00 pr
68-71 Buick GS Ram Air air cleaner assm  $150.00
70-72 Buick AM/FM Stereo $150.00
71-72 Chevelle SS Emblem Kit (complete car, N.O.S. and Repro, includes door
panel SS N.O.S. emblems)  $140.00
64-65 Pontiac Chrome Valve Covers  $45.00 pr
Mid 60's Pontiac Dog Dish Hubcaps (nice)  $80.00 set

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:02:38 EDT
From: <MFATZII@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Adam's Future F-85 was: Hi! I am new

>>>>>hey man,
my names Ryan .go ahead with the car ,i just sene one of thos
in town ,nice cars,with a real nice look to theme,plus its your first
car,there for fun anyway.(right?)
anyway,good luck the car tomorrow.


>>>>>Ryan

SNIP

Ryan, do me a favor will ya ?  make a signature file....I've had too many
people get us confused......

Ryan (M Fatz II@aol.com)
Lincoln,   Nebraska  (Home of the Cornhuskers, too bad they suck !)

56 88 4dr Sedan  (Project Rocket)
<A HREF="http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/rides/wieders2/">Click here</A>
85 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
89 Chevy Beretta CL

   888                888
  8      8           8       8
8          8       8           8
  8      8           8       8
    8  8               8   8           LIVES
  8      8           8       8
8          8       8           8
  8     8            8       8
    888                888

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:25:18 EDT
From: <OJUNEBUGGO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Adam's Future

Hey adam, It hasent even been two month sence i bought my 72 Cutlass S. Ive
always wanted a muscle car. I had choices from Malibu's, Buicks GS's, &
Camero's. (sorry guyes) But I chose an Oldsmobile for me and my dad probley
because he owned one when he was my age too, and has experence with em. Im not
rich, and im only 17 and yes the gas is bad & so is the insurance. It has
already drawn out my savings.....but boy do i love it to death. Good luck to
you, and your car! Have fun with it!

$Roger
72 Cutlass S

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:08:55 -0700
From: Ben jacks <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Hi! I am new

> The car is a 1962 Olds Cutlass F-85 Convertible. I live in Baton Rouge, La
> adam

  Adam. Check out my for sale site. It's a 62 Olds F-85 w/ the 215 v-8 2bbl.
I've done very little aftermarket to it, but that little 215 roars for such a
small engine!!! I love it to death, but must part with it to keep the buildup
of my 68 442 going. The latest date on the aluminum heads is July 31st... If
they don't ship then, I'm gonna talk to Vic Edelbrock Jr. myself! This is
rediculas... Oh well, On to the 62... I've found that Napa was able to get me
parts 80% of the time and the other times Pep Boys helped. Most of the other
stores don't show a book that far back. If you have the 215 whether with the
turbo or not... Another good resource is asking for parts for a Buick ROVER.
Buick actually built those engines and olds bought them for the F-85. And
about the being too expensive... NONSENSE!!! I worked at McDonalds and went to
school (before enlisting) and was able to pay the insurance and work on it.
You will love your car and we are proud of a new and young Olds fanatic!
Welcome to the ADDICTION!

Ben
62 F-85
68 442

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:47:08 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: '72 VIN's

Thanks much for the clarification - now of course, all the paperwork on the
new car is at work & I'm at home ~!


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible,  '72
Vista Cruiser, '80 GMC 1/2 ton (the youngster)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:50:31 EDT
From: <Sx455@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Chrome SSIs (was: wheel choices)

stockton wheel has a website with pictures and a mini cataloge. i dont
remember the address,i got it from searching on dogpile, i think it was
www.stocktonwheel?sx455

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 98 1:03:13 EDT
From: Glenn Connors <gpc442@buffnet.net>
Subject: Re: Hi! I am new

At 07:29 PM 7/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>My names is Adam Broussard. I am 15. I am buying my first car tomorrow
>(Sat.).
>The car is a 1962 Olds Cutlass F-85 Convertible. I live in Baton Rouge, La
>adam
>
>

  Adam,    Great catch!!  Surely, consult this list....extraordinary amount
of knowledge          and experience here....(me thinks Chris Witt afforded
me this same profound             advise).  Just be consice and to the point
as your original post is, and you          will get the best response.

  Glenn
  '69 4-4-2

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:05:21 EDT
From: <Sx455@aol.com>
Subject: national street car assoc.

for any list members in the mid-atlantic area      the national street car
assoc. is having its race at virginia motorsports park sat,july 18 gates open
at 8 am   brackets and heads up racing 1\4 mile sx455

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:32:16 EDT
From: <Surmise@aol.com>
Subject: OCA Saturday

On the spur of the moment my wife and I drove to Springfield for the OCA.  We
are at the Red Roof Inn (115) late Friday and Saturday.  Is there still a
chance of meeting any of the list serve folks?

John and Roz
Surmise@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:07:19 -0700
From: Ben jacks <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Hi! I am new

One thing I forgot earlier... If you want to check out my 62 for sale... here
is the site
http://www.primenet.com/~olds442/forsale.html

Good luck
Ben
62 f-85
68 442

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 02:10:04 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Olds in historic news

Hmm... Just saw a news clipping.  On this date in 1969, Senator Kennedy took 
his
car for a swim...  They showed pictures of the car, sitting sideways in the
water... Hmm, looks kinda familiar...  They showed it again on a boat ramp
(appropriate!)  Appears to be a 67 98???  67 Olds Big Car, anyways!  Cool.  I
guess....  Then again...
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 03:00:54 -0600
From: "Igor" <todorovb@cadvision.com>
Subject: Fired the 455 (was: Break-in procedure)

Okay, so I finally fired up the 455.  Fired right away and I took it to
RPMs for break in.  Only one problem I made.  I put PERMATEX form-a-gasket
on my exaust manifolds around the exaust gaskets.  BAD.  Withing a minuted
and a half, the permatex crap started smoking like nuts.  So after about 7
or 8 mins, I was forced to shut her down cause I could no longer breath.
Let it sit for about 5 min. till it stoped smoking.  Fired it up agan and
took it up to RPMs.  Now, much less smoke  but still some.  Due to smoke
and about 210 deg.  I shut it down after about 5 minutes.  The motor was up
to operating temp within 2 mins of initial start up.  My question is when I
start it again tomorow, should I get it to RPMs again for 10 minutes or so,
or should I just start tuning it after a couple minutes.    Have no leaks
except a little at the left valve cover, but no big deal.  What is the max
temp. I should let it go to.  It has a 180 deg. thermostat.

Other then Permatex thought, it fired great and ran good.  Even thought the
timing is out a bit, it still ran smooth and by it self.  One big problem
though.  The problem is that the 307s power steering pump has only one
groove pully.  SO, on the 455 the alternator and PS pump run on the same
belt.  Then there is the aditional belt for PS pump on that second grove
that the pump is supposed to have.  Ended up with only one belt on there
with 307s PS pump.  I am concerned that the water pump is not getting
enought power.  I will change that pully befoure I do any real driving (and
as soon as I find one).  Another big problem, with dual 2.5", no cats or
anything, cross-over-tube, 2.5" Chery Bomb Turbo mufflers and dumps, the
damn thing sound like a f-18 when you fire it up.  It was okay at 2200 RPM,
but when I droped it down to 1100, OH MY GOD.  The rumble was insane.
There was so much vibration and roar that my neighbour came out.  ( I did
this at 11:00PM, so can't really blame her).  I can't wait to see and hear
this thing on the far side of 4000rpm.  Igor.

Igor Todorovic, UofC
1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 3.23 limited slip)
1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the line)
1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:30:57 EDT
From: <GraphixRUs@aol.com>
Subject: Re: national street car assoc.

Where is Va. Motorsports Park ?
Roger

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:10:52 EDT
From: <RCKTPWR@aol.com>
Subject: 77 Delta rear seat...FREE

77 Delta 88 rear seat, back and bottom, light blue in color, good condition,
free, or trade for some Olds rocket emblems.
Bernie

Oh yeh, it was from a 2 door.................

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:27:10 -0600
From: Matthew Mayer <mmayer@interaccess.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: '87 442 stripes

Angel Castrodad wrote:
>
> I'm also going thru this predicament. I need a set with the blue backing for
> my blue/gray '86 442. anyone know of any source?
>
> TIA
> Angel Castrodad
> angleki@prtc.net
>
Angel

Stencils and Stripes just came out with a set!!  Contact them at:

Stencils & Stripes
1108 S. Crescent
Park Ridge, IL 60068

(847) 692-6893
Fax (847) 692-6895

They go for $225.  Maybe we should all band together and try to get a
discount!?

Hope this helps..
> >
> >
> >

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Chicago, IL

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:29:33 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Fired the 455

>Okay, so I finally fired up the 455. <snippity>
> Another big problem, with dual 2.5", no cats or
>anything, cross-over-tube, 2.5" Chery Bomb Turbo mufflers and dumps, the
>damn thing sound like a f-18 when you fire it up.  It was okay at 2200 RPM,
>but when I droped it down to 1100, OH MY GOD.  The rumble was insane.


YEEHAA...Land Yaght with attitude. (Big 'ol Tim Taylor grunt needed here)

drc

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:37:34 EDT
From: <Sx455@aol.com>
Subject: Re: national street car assoc.

on US RT.1 just south of petersburg va.  the nsca event is scheduled for sat
and sun.
sx455

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