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Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme
RE: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)
RE: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)
Posi Help
umm...T/A what?
Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)
directional tires (was: dumb/dumber question)
Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)
Re: umm...T/A what?
Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)
Re: directional tires (was: dumb/dumber question)
test
Faxon's Phone #
Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)
Radial T/As
Springfield show
Re: Radial T/As
68 sport wheel
Re: 69' Tic-Tac-Tock
Re: Radial T/As
Re: 68 sport wheel
Re: umm...T/A what?
Re: directional tires (was: dumb/dumber question)
Brake questions
Wanted 1964 F85 Convert.
Re: Posi Help
1970 442 Console wanted
Re: Brake questions
Re: 68 sport wheel
Re: 68 sport wheel
Re: Shock absorbers
Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)
OCA Homecoming - Sat June 20
Re: 68 sport wheel
1975 cutlass need power
Bushings etc...Vintage olds source needed.
Rally Rims "fast Track"
pillar post
72 Cutlass Emblem Question
Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?
RE: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?
Re: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?
Re: Bushings etc...Vintage olds source needed.
Re: 72 Cutlass Emblem Question
Re: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?
Re: Wanted: '68 Sport wheel horn button
H/OCA meet
Rocket talk
Re: Wanted: '68 Sport wheel horn button
Rear Cyclops light out.
Re: Bench to Buckets..  78-88 G-Body.
Re: Radial T/As
Re: umm...T/A what?
olds show in RI
Re: Rear Cyclops light out.
Re: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?
Makin' Progress
Re: 4-4-2 By The Numbers
Re: Rear Cyclops light out.
Re: Makin' Progress
Parts For Sale - Early 60's Full Size
Re: olds show in RI
Re: 68 sport wheel
Blower motors
Re: moving
Re: 69' Tic-Tac-Tock
Re: Posi Help
Lots 'O' Parts For Sale
Parts For Sale: New Stuff

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:43:27 -0500
From: "Green, Andrew" <acg@datalogics.com>
Subject: Re: Question on 1984 Cutlass Supreme

> FWIW, I also like the style of the T/A lettering much better
> because of a much more "classic" look, but of course, that's
> completely a personal choice.

I had BFG T/As on my '82 Cutlass Supreme for most of the eight
years I had the car. I didn't notice the wet-weather problems that
others have mentioned, but then again I had a V6 in the car so
I wasn't exactly pushing the envelope. Your best bet is to keep
the tire pressures up where they're supposed to be (I found that
32 psi gave me the best handling) so you get the best footprint
on the road.

The classic look was great, and the fact that they don't change
the look of the lettering very much over the years (they have,
but it's not real obvious) means that new tires will match old
ones pretty well. Good thing, too, because three of the four
originals failed through shifted belts or tread cuts and were
replaced under warranty (either BFG's own or Montgomery
Ward's hazard warranty, the best $5 per tire I ever spent).

BTW, the only extra warranty I would ever buy is road hazard
for tires, typically $5/per, since their entire role in life is to
run over things. This has proved to be a good buy.  :-(
- --
Andrew C. Green             (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.            email: acg@datalogics.com
101 N. Wacker, Ste. 1800    http://www.datalogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301     Fax: (312) 853-8282

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:40:29 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)

Monza = Monzaii

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada) [mailto:mrada@catalina-inter.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 10:27 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)


Timothy A. Churchill wrote:

> Examples:  alumni instead of alumnuses, octopi instead of octopuses
> (or octopussy for that matter)... and I've heard Lexi instaed of Lexuses.
>
> So this is perhaps why some of us say Cutlii instead of Cutlasses.
> It certainly isn't because we're being wise*sses, oh no... :)

Well in light of this enlightening explanation (wow what a mouth full),
shouldn't
the plural of Cutlass be Cutli (instead of Cutlii) [Pronounced Cut-Lie
instead of
Cut-Lie-i or even Cut-Lie-e].   I think I might like using the word
Cutlassy

[Pronounced Cut-La-See] (kind of cross between Cutlass and Classy).
Whatcha think?  :-)

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:01:01 -0400
From: "Kerr, Brian (R)" <kerrb@basf-corp.com>
Subject: RE: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)

snip!
So this is perhaps why some of us say Cutlii instead of Cutlasses.
snip!

Often young attractive girls are referred to as lasses, but refer to them as
a 'li' and you'll have a hard time getting one in your Cutlass!!

Brian Kerr

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:05:44 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Posi Help

I need to draw on to the knowledge of the list.
Please help me!

I have discribed problems lately with my 3.91 posi.  Some felt it was best
to remove the thing before I damaged it more.  I have removed it now and
noticed a problem.  Now I don't know much about the rear unit, so please
keep your suggestions simple (like me)
Now for the problem:
I have noticed some ballooning where the pinion shaft goes through the
case.  The ballooning has opened the pinion shaft hole up to the point that
I can put a .060 feeler gauge in the new gap.  The metal around and
including the ballooning has turn a very disturbing shade of blue.
First question      -      Why did this happen?
Second              -      Can I use any case to repair this, or do I need
a posi case?
Third                  -      Can it be repaired through machining?

I have many spare OLDS open rear ends all 68 - 70, so parts aren't a
problem.
I have drag raced the car with the 3.91's for 4 years.  I figure my very
hard launches on slicks pulling the front tires has caused this.  Is this a
safe assumption?

Thanks

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
1970 Rallye 350 (Gone)
See the Rallye at:
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/schinkel/

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:32:32 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: umm...T/A what?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T/A tire? Is it a BFG trade name, or a
type of tire?

drc

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:42:37 -0400
From: Ray Moriarty <rmoriarty@blairinc.com>
Subject: Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)

At 08:27 AM 6/18/98 -0700, Chris Sparks wrote:
>...I think I might like using the word Cutlassy
>[Pronounced Cut-La-See] (kind of cross between Cutlass and Classy).
>Whatcha think?  :-)
>
>--
>Chris Sparks
>68 442 SC - Frosty
>68 442 HT - Scarlet
>68 442 HT - Saffron
>82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
>http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada
>

Well, Ok, its a free country, but If you do decide to pluralize Cutlass
that way, please give some notice in the subject line. That way I can avoid
further psychological trauma. ;->

Ray

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:21:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: directional tires (was: dumb/dumber question)

Hi listers!

Okay, here am I with some things I know. On my Opel in Germany I had
directional tires too. They are not made directional for cooling reasons
there. The winter tires are made non symmetric in the profile to provide
better grip on the slippery roads. They work almoust like a fishing hook
and that is why they work only in one direction. This means you cant
switch tires from left to right on the vehicle (but from front to back
on the same side!) once you got them on the rims. If you want to switch
sides you got to take them off the rims and install them the other way
round.

Hope this helps and does not produce more confusion :-)

Regards,

George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. (Soon I am going to torture you with questions..)
'77 Lincoln Continental (like new, everyday driver, FOR SALE!)
- --------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 hitson@leadbelt.com wrote:

> I can comprehend directional tires, but, other than some scheme like sucking
> heat from the brakes (Padavano info), what is the point of directional 
wheels?
>
> roger hitson
>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:27:07 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)

Ray Moriarty wrote:

> Well, Ok, its a free country, but If you do decide to pluralize Cutlass
> that way, please give some notice in the subject line. That way I can avoid
> further psychological trauma. ;->

Doh!   I didn't realize what the other meaning.  No I don't want to cut
Lassy!Phew!!!!!!

Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:30:54 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: umm...T/A what?

Dave Cullen wrote:

> Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T/A tire? Is it a BFG trade name, or a
> type of tire?

Oh that's easy.  When you get challenged by someone in a race, they see the
T/A on boththe front and back tire.   After you beat them, the accronym
comes to mean TA-TA..... :-)

Just fool'in around........

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:04:45 -0400
From: "Kerr, Brian (R)" <kerrb@basf-corp.com>
Subject: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)

snip!
So this is perhaps why some of us say Cutlii instead of Cutlasses.
snip!

Often young attractive girls are referred to as lasses, but refer to them as
a 'li' and you'll have a hard time getting one in your Cutlass!!

Brian Kerr

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:16:09 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: directional tires (was: dumb/dumber question)

Okay, here am I with some things I know. On my Opel in Germany I had
directional tires too. They are not made directional for cooling reasons..


     OK, gang.  Please note that tires are _not_ wheels.  Tires are
     typically made out of rubber, while wheels tend to be metal.  I was
     refering to (and the original question refered to) directional
     _wheels_ which have cast-in vanes to act as cooling fans.  Directional
     _tires_ are something completely different.  Directionality in tires
     refers to the tread which is optimized to operate in one direction of
     rotation only (as exemplified by the Goodyear "Gatorback" tires which
     are based on the design of Formula One rain tires).  Note that the
     Goodyear GS-C type tires are not only directional, but also
     asymmetric, where the tread differs from inboard to outboard.  The
     theory is that the outboard part of the tread is optimized for dry
     cornering and the inboard part for wet weather traction.  In this case
     you have specific RH and LH tires.  Of course, if you have different
     width tires front to back then you have a different _tire_ on each
     corner (but not necessarily a different _wheel_ on each corner).

     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com

     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:24:25 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: test

Test

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:51:04 -0500
From: "Doug Beavers" <dbtech@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Faxon's Phone #

        According to Hemmings, Faxon's # is 800-458-2734


>>_________________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:01:14 -0600
From: Tom Starkey <tstarkey@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)

I think you should switch to Toro's! :)

Tom Starkey 68 Cutlass Supreme

Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada) wrote:
>
> Timothy A. Churchill wrote:
>
> > Examples:  alumni instead of alumnuses, octopi instead of octopuses
> > (or octopussy for that matter)... and I've heard Lexi instaed of Lexuses.
> >
> > So this is perhaps why some of us say Cutlii instead of Cutlasses.
> > It certainly isn't because we're being wise*sses, oh no... :)
>
> Well in light of this enlightening explanation (wow what a mouth full),
> shouldn't
> the plural of Cutlass be Cutli (instead of Cutlii) [Pronounced Cut-Lie
> instead of
> Cut-Lie-i or even Cut-Lie-e].   I think I might like using the word Cutlassy
>
> [Pronounced Cut-La-See] (kind of cross between Cutlass and Classy).
> Whatcha think?  :-)
>
> --
> Chris Sparks
> 68 442 SC - Frosty
> 68 442 HT - Scarlet
> 68 442 HT - Saffron
> 82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
> http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:02:10 -0400
From: Steve Ochs <Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com>
Subject: Radial T/As

Message text written by Jason
>I love the T/A's.  They're excellent all around tires. <

My 1987 442 came with Goodyear Eagle GTs (P215-65R15).  When I had about
3000 miles on it, I encountered a rainstorm while on the highway.  Anything
above 40 mph and the car was all over the road.  Also, starting from a
stoplight in the rain was terrible (all that torque from the 307 :) with
the 3.73 rear axle.)  I immediately changed to Radial T/As and was never
happier.  Much better traction in the rain, rides smoother, no
hydroplaning, better snow traction (yes - I had to drive it during the
first winter in 1988).  My first set lasted 42,000 miles.  Best all around
tire that I have driven for the price with raised white letters.

Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma Plant
Transmission Division (4T60/65-E & 4L60-E) - Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com
The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division
'96 DCM - NAISSO Member #1365 - '87 442

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:06:34 -0500
From: "babbott@pdnt.com" <babbott@pdnt.com>
Subject: Springfield show

I will have my '70 Cutlass Supreme At the show. It is blue with draglites
on it.If any of the list members see me, say hello. It would be nice to
have names to go with the faces. The car is not really show-worthy anymore,
but I have never been to an all Olds show. Needless to say, I am quite
exited. Who else is going?
Eric Phillips
70 Cutlass Supreme, 455

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:08:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Metcalfe <ametcalf@ccs.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Radial T/As

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Steve Ochs wrote:

> My 1987 442 came with Goodyear Eagle GTs (P215-65R15).  When I had about
> 3000 miles on it, I encountered a rainstorm while on the highway.  Anything
> above 40 mph and the car was all over the road.  Also, starting from a
> stoplight in the rain was terrible (all that torque from the 307 :) with
> the 3.73 rear axle.)  I immediately changed to Radial T/As and was never
> happier.  Much better traction in the rain, rides smoother, no
> hydroplaning, better snow traction (yes - I had to drive it during the
> first winter in 1988).  My first set lasted 42,000 miles.  Best all around
> tire that I have driven for the price with raised white letters.

I've got BFG T/A's on my Cierra GT, they're great in the rain.  I did a
run from Toronto Ottawa in pouring rain last week, these things were
great, even at 'ludicrous speed' On the highway (145km/h)

Yes, I've got a lead foot.

_Am

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:14:11 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: 68 sport wheel

so im still wondering. will a 68 sport wheel fit on a 67 column??? help is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Brent
1967 cutlass convertible

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:17:48 EDT
From: <BuchD@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 69' Tic-Tac-Tock

Your buddy didn't happen to have a console for a 1970 w-30,
did he?(automatic)
d.buchanan

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:17:18 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Radial T/As

_Am wrote:

I've got BFG T/A's on my Cierra GT, they're great in the rain.  I did a
run from Toronto Ottawa in pouring rain last week, these things were
great, even at 'ludicrous speed' On the highway (145km/h)

   Which type of T/A do you have?  My experience in over 20 years of
   driving T/As on the road, as well as the experience of a number of list
   members, is that the base T/As (not the Euro or Comps) are pretty bad in
   the wet.  I looped my 70 W-30 once when I was a little "enthusiastic"
   off the line and I find that if I'm not careful with the application of
   power on turns at intersections the back end will easily come around in
   the wet.  Of course, your Cierra is FWD, so that probably helps a lot.

   The only car that didn't exhibit this problem was my first, a 68 VC.  I
   attribute this to the rearward weight bias of the wagon.

   Joe Padavano
   padavano.joe@orbital.com

   66 442
   68 W-30
   69 H/O
   70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:19:54 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 68 sport wheel

so im still wondering. will a 68 sport wheel fit on a 67 column??? help is
greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Brent
1967 cutlass convertible

     Brent,

     I'm pretty sure that 67 and 68 wheels will interchange, but let me
     check the parts book when I get home.  I _do_ know (since I've done
     it) that a 69 and up wheel will bolt onto a 68 column, however the
     larger diameter wheel hub will overhang the column.  I had a 70 four
     spoke wheel on my original 68.

     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com

     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:27:43 EDT
From: <MFATZII@aol.com>
Subject: Re: umm...T/A what?

SNIP

Oh that's easy.  When you get challenged by someone in a race, they see the
T/A on boththe front and back tire.   After you beat them, the accronym
comes to mean TA-TA..... :-)

Just fool'in around........

SNIP
- -------I thought it stood for Trans Am------------ha ha ha,    er um well,
just kiddin............

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:29:10 EDT
From: <MFATZII@aol.com>
Subject: Re: directional tires (was: dumb/dumber question)

 thank you joe for getting this thread on track!!

Ryan

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:29:19 EDT
From: mnbassman@juno.com (Pat a Kimber)
Subject: Brake questions

I just bought a 72 cutlass (the fourth cutlass I've owned) and I have a
question about the brakes.  This is the first one I've owned that has had
drums all the way around.  How hard would it be and what would it entale
to change the front drums to disks?  Would I have to change the A arms
and suspension?

Another question, it seems that I have a vacuum leak in the master
cylinder.  When I turn the car off you can hear a faint vacuum leak.  It
sounds like it is comeing from the vacuum line connector  on the master
cylinder.  Has anyone ever had a similar problem like this?  I don't know
what else is causing my brake peddle to be so mushy.

Patrick K
72 Cutlass 350
mnbassman@juno.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:41:08 -0500
From: "CD Smalley" <notdadsw41@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Wanted 1964 F85 Convert.

Hi All,

I have a friend who is looking for a 1964 F85 convertible.  If anybody know
where he can find one please e-mail me ~privately~.  We're located in the
Wichita KS area so I'm sure he'd like to find it as close as possible.

Thanks!

Cecil Smalley
1991 W41
OCA #29604
http://home.att.net/~notdadsw41/

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:40:47 -0700
From: "Randy A. Geisel" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Posi Help

Robert,

The blueing is from excessive heat (friction), lack of lubrication. Have you
ever seen a spun bearing?

How does the pinion bearing look? You can use an open case as a replacement
as long as the case matches the old one. (10 or 12 bolt, c-clips or not) The
carrier is what makes the difference between open or posi.

I don't know if you can have it machined and sleeved or not. I wouldn't see
why not. If you have spare rears, it would be just as easy to replace the
whole unit. You're looking at the same amount of work, except you have to
remove one more carrier,ring and pinion. (If you want the same set-up you
have) You're going to have to replace the gears and carrier (reinstall)
anyway. To try machining it, you still have to pull the rearend. While it's
apart you might as well replace the axle bearings also. Is your ring gear
and pinion still useable? How about the carrier? Has it been slipping? If so
its time to rebuild or replace.

Hope this helps,
Randy

  The ballooning has opened the pinion shaft hole up to the point that
>I can put a .060 feeler gauge in the new gap.  The metal around and
>including the ballooning has turn a very disturbing shade of blue.
>First question      -      Why did this happen?
>Second              -      Can I use any case to repair this, or do I need
>a posi case?
>Third                  -      Can it be repaired through machining?
>
>I have many spare OLDS open rear ends all 68 - 70, so parts aren't a
>problem.
>I have drag raced the car with the 3.91's for 4 years.  I figure my very
>hard launches on slicks pulling the front tires has caused this.  Is this a
>safe assumption?
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert Schinkel
>docbob@caninet.com
>Niagara Falls, Canada
>905-357-4454
>1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
>1970 Rallye 350 (Gone)
>See the Rallye at:
>http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/schinkel/

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:56:31 EDT
From: <BuchD@aol.com>
Subject: 1970 442 Console wanted

I am looking to purchase a console for a 1970 442 W-30 (auto)
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
C.Swords

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:25:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Brake questions

Try this URL for a nice outline of the process to convert drums to disks:

http://www.mich.com/~crescend/drm2dsc/

As for the hissing sound, it sounds like either a bad check valve or
vacuum hose. The rubber grommett in the booster can go bad and cause that (I
know; it happened to me). You get a new grommett when you get a new check
valve. Easy fix; available from the dealer or any parts store for a few
bucks.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:27:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: 68 sport wheel

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 Cnvrt67@aol.com wrote:
> so im still wondering. will a 68 sport wheel fit on a 67 column??? help is
> greatly appreciated.

Dunno, but if you want to sell it to a guy with a '68, let me know...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:43:12 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: 68 sport wheel

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 Cnvrt67@aol.com wrote:
> > so im still wondering. will a 68 sport wheel fit on a 67 column??? help is
> > greatly appreciated.
>
> Dunno, but if you want to sell it to a guy with a '68, let me know...

Subtle!

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:00:27 -0400
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Shock absorbers

Forget the cheapo "comfortable ride" Monroe types from Sears...

Get a pair of KYB shocks.  I got mine from PST, the suspension
mail-order company.  $60 a pair.  Not too stiff, but makes the car
nice and taught.  Now the cutlass doesn't "porpus" up and down when
going over bridge expansion joints.

The best are Koni adjustable though.  At $75 each, I couldn't afford
them.

- -greg

- -----Original Message-----
From: flynt myrick <f_myrick@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 5:36 PM
Subject: Shock absorbers


>Listmembers,
>   My 1969 442 convertible needs new shocks.  Have any list members
had
>experience (good or bad) with the Gabriel VST (variable sensitive
>technology)shock or the Monroe Sensatrac shock?  Any other shock
>absorber suggestions?
>
>Flynt Myrick
>f_myrick@hotmail.com
>http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:59:11 -0700
From: Eric Spence <ericsp@mail.ocis.net>
Subject: Re: Nomenclature (Was Re: moulding trim for '67 cutlass)

PLAY NICE!
Eric - 81 Toro!

Tom Starkey wrote:

> I think you should switch to Toro's! :)
>
> Tom Starkey 68 Cutlass Supreme
>
> Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada) wrote:
> >
> > Timothy A. Churchill wrote:
> >
> > > Examples:  alumni instead of alumnuses, octopi instead of octopuses
> > > (or octopussy for that matter)... and I've heard Lexi instaed of Lexuses.
> > >
> > > So this is perhaps why some of us say Cutlii instead of Cutlasses.
> > > It certainly isn't because we're being wise*sses, oh no... :)
> >
> > Well in light of this enlightening explanation (wow what a mouth full),
> > shouldn't
> > the plural of Cutlass be Cutli (instead of Cutlii) [Pronounced Cut-Lie
> > instead of
> > Cut-Lie-i or even Cut-Lie-e].   I think I might like using the word 
Cutlassy
> >
> > [Pronounced Cut-La-See] (kind of cross between Cutlass and Classy).
> > Whatcha think?  :-)
> >
> > --
> > Chris Sparks
> > 68 442 SC - Frosty
> > 68 442 HT - Scarlet
> > 68 442 HT - Saffron
> > 82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
> > http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:07:24 EDT
From: <JohnMonnin@aol.com>
Subject: OCA Homecoming - Sat June 20

In a message dated 98-06-17 16:57:37 EDT, you write:

I plan on going to the Olds Homcomming in Lansing Saturday June 20th.
I thought that a good place to meet up with Other members of the list would be
at
Mark Cornea's Restoration Decal booth at 12:00.  He will have the White tent
with the 70 W30 by it.

I think that this would make a good meeting point.  We could all catch lunch
together or make plans then to meet for dinner at the Blue Coyotte.

Who wants to meet me there?

Below is a Copy of Mark Cornea's Saturday travel plans

FYI, I will be setup with all of my restoration decals, look for the
white tent with the '70 W30 by it. Please stop on by!
		There will be a number of us that will caravan from Novi, MI. 
We will
be meeting at the Meijer parking lot at I-275 and 8 Mile Rd at 7:00am
and arriving in Lansing approximately 8:45am. See ya there!

       ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
          Mark Cornea (Dr Decal) `70 W30 stick ~ Red (of course)

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:08:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bryceman <bryceman@442.com>
Subject: Re: 68 sport wheel

>On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 Cnvrt67@aol.com wrote:
>> so im still wondering. will a 68 sport wheel fit on a 67 column??? help is
>> greatly appreciated.
>
>Dunno, but if you want to sell it to a guy with a '68, let me know...

Should fit. I have a '70 sport wheel on my '65 Vista Cruiser. The '70 wheel
hub is slightly larger in diameter than the '65 tilt column but it still
looks pretty good. I had to be somewhat creative to get the horn button to
work. I went to the auto parts store and got a grant GT installation kit
for '65 Cutlass with tilt and used the kit's horn contact and wires. The
kit was fairly inexpensive.
Also had to drill the hub to accept a pin for turn signal canceling. I used
the stock '65 steering wheel for reference in locating the cancelling pin.
Hope this helps.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
'66 Dynamic 88 B07 Apprehender
'65 442 Post Coupe
'65 Vista Cruiser
'72 H/O Convertible Pace Car Replica
Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:12:09 EDT
From: <JBSERVS@aol.com>
Subject: 1975 cutlass need power

i need to get more power out of my 350  and i don't want to spend that much
money   i already have exhaust but still not fast enough

seb

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:41:20 EDT
From: <SPotter596@aol.com>
Subject: Bushings etc...Vintage olds source needed.

I am looking for the rubber bushings that adapt at the control arms for my 37
bus.coupe.If anyone can point me to a source it would be appreciated. It
somewhat resembles opposing toilet flappers.

steve
37 bus coupe
50 fleetline
65f85 deluxe
Rust is the enemy in the Northwest

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:52:09 -0700
From: "David Seiver - Account Executive" <DavidS@AnaServe.com>
Subject: Rally Rims "fast Track"

I am looking for two 15" or 16" (if available) Rally Rims "fast Track"
Please Please Please
preferably white with all the chrome pieces
I will then have two 14" for sale or trade or whatever.
Thanks!
Needed ASAP!!!


http://www.oldsmobile.net

David Seiver
Account Representative
AnaServe, Inc. - The Future of Web Hosting
Voice: 1-800-711-6030 ext. 283
Fax: 714.250.7265
e-mail: davids@anaserve.com
Web: http://www.anaservehosting.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:59:09 EDT
From: <Jjhelle@aol.com>
Subject: pillar post

Need to replace the pillar post on my 72 cutlass. Would any of you recommend a
supplier .

Thanks
Jim Helle

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:07:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: mputz@interhop.net (Mike Putz)
Subject: 72 Cutlass Emblem Question

I bought a 72 Cutlass S that had a vinyl top and on each side of the top
behind the back side window there was an emblem, but it was a "CS" emblem.
Could this have been a factory mistake,  The guy I bought it from had it
since 73 and did not change the top.

Is there supposed to be an emblem in that spot on an S model?  Is it
supposed to be an "S" emblem?

Any help on this one would be appreciated since I am having the body
completely redone with a new top.

Thanks in advance for any help.....

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:28:25 EDT
From: <AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com>
Subject: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?

I just put 12 inch rotors on my 72. Used the hotchkis control arms. Now i want
to increase the stopping power of the rear. I heard a rumor that S10 blazer
rear wheel cylinders might work. They are larger in diameter and would work
better than stock. Right now it doesnt seem like the rears do much at all. I
was also thinking of bypassing the proportion valve and putting an adjustable
one in. Anyone ever eliminate it? What about the 77 malibu rear drums, does
anyone know if there 11''. And what mods to make it fit. And i am aware that
the fronts do most of the work but with 275/60 in the rear they should be able
to do more than stock tires.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:31:29 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: RE: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?

My personal recommendation is 71-76 B-Body wagon brakes.  These should
be 12 in to 13in drums.  They were leaf spring cars also.  The 77-96
B-Body wagon was much smaller than 71-76.

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac


- -----Original Message-----
From: AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com [mailto:AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 6:28 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?


I just put 12 inch rotors on my 72. Used the hotchkis control arms. Now
i want
to increase the stopping power of the rear. I heard a rumor that S10
blazer
rear wheel cylinders might work. They are larger in diameter and would
work
better than stock. Right now it doesnt seem like the rears do much at
all. I
was also thinking of bypassing the proportion valve and putting an
adjustable
one in. Anyone ever eliminate it? What about the 77 malibu rear drums,
does
anyone know if there 11''. And what mods to make it fit. And i am aware
that
the fronts do most of the work but with 275/60 in the rear they should
be able
to do more than stock tires.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:53:24 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?

AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com wrote:
>
> I just put 12 inch rotors on my 72. Used the hotchkis control arms. Now i 
want
> to increase the stopping power of the rear. I heard a rumor that S10 blazer
> rear wheel cylinders might work.

Get the September issue (yes, September '98 issue in June '98) of MCR.
They have an article on how upgrade GM rear brakes with factory parts.

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
OCA# 30442

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:58:33 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Bushings etc...Vintage olds source needed.

>I am looking for the rubber bushings that adapt at the control arms for my
37
>bus.coupe.If anyone can point me to a source it would be appreciated. It
>somewhat resembles opposing toilet flappers.
>
>steve


Check out Metro Moulded Rubber - they have all kinds of vintage rubber repro
parts. Just search for their name on the web and you'll find their page.

drc

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:56:22 EDT
From: <Jon442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 72 Cutlass Emblem Question

In a message dated 98-06-18 19:10:09 EDT, you write:

<< I bought a 72 Cutlass S that had a vinyl top and on each side of the top
 behind the back side window there was an emblem, but it was a "CS" emblem.
 Could this have been a factory mistake,  The guy I bought it from had it
 since 73 and did not change the top. >>

Sometimes dealers change things or add things, to make a car a little
different. Or, it could have been a factory mistake. I can remember getting a
Cutlass in one time at our Olds dealership that had Monte Carlo emblems on it.
Mistakes happen, or someone on the assembly line wants to play a prank. So,
your car could have had those emblems on it from day one, even though they are
not correct.

Jon

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:10:11 EDT
From: <AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?

In a message dated 98-06-18 19:52:30 EDT, you write:

<< >
 > I just put 12 inch rotors on my 72. Used the hotchkis control arms. Now i
want
 > to increase the stopping power of the rear. I heard a rumor that S10 blazer
 > rear wheel cylinders might wor >>
Another question that came to mind. What size is the rear cylinders suppose
tobe. Maybe they gave me smaller ones. Thanks, in advance.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:24:58 -0500
From: Dan Williams <dr_olds@pitnet.net>
Subject: Re: Wanted: '68 Sport wheel horn button

Chris,

It sounds like you need the horn contact and the bin, bushing and spring (no
wires).  You can purchase both from Year One.  I ordered the bin, bushing and
spring from Year One and I will let you know if it the correct one.  The center
cap is the same for all of the 70-72 sport wheels.  Also, the same as those 
used
on Starfires of the 80s.

- -Dan

Chris Brown Witt wrote:

> Finally got that friggin Camero [sic] steering wheel off the car. i had a 
good
> cam for under the steering wheel, luckily, but nowhere in my stash can I find
a > horn button, nor do I have the item to which it attaches, which is itself
held > to the spokes area by 3 screws apparently. I guess I'd need the
aforementioned > wire that goes into the hole in the cam, too. > > If anyone 
has
or knows where to get these items, please let me know, it sure > looks
half-assed with a bare wire sticking out of the cam hole for a horn. > > But, I
can see the gages now, and it's almost a Chevy-free car [diff. to go] > -- >
Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist > 1968 442 convertible, originally & to be
again W30, et. al > Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu > --

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:33:18 EDT
From: <Jon442@aol.com>
Subject: H/OCA meet

The Hurst/Olds Club of America is holding it's annual meet in Kansas City next
weekend, June 26th and 27th. The location is the Mission/Overland Park Holiday
Inn on Shawnee Mission Drive.

Area Olds enthusiasts are encouraged to stop by, see the H/Os, and visit. The
best times to come by would probably be Friday evening and Saturday evening.

Jon Wessel
Director, H/OCA

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:05:53 -0400
From: super442@mindspring.com
Subject: Rocket talk

To all,
         Does anyone on this ring ever go to "Rocket talk" on Charley "Olds
magnet" Buehner's  page?
John
mailto:super442@mindspring.com
John McJunkin
1985 Cutlass------T-tops--307 H.O./3.73  http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass------Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser wagon(G-body)--soon to be 403!!

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:12:41 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: '68 Sport wheel horn button

so you can buy a complete horn button assembly for a 68 sport wheel for year
one? including the button? am i correct in hearing this or did i miss
interpert you???

Thanks

Brent
1967 cutlass convertible

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:05:18 -0400
From: "Matt Herrick" <mherrick@tir.com>
Subject: Rear Cyclops light out.

Hello,
	I own a 1988 rear wheel drive Olds Cutlass Classic and my
rear cyclops brake light is out. Does any one know how to chang either
the fuse or bulb on these things. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
	Matt

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:53:42 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Bench to Buckets..  78-88 G-Body.

Yeah, that's what I was wondering!  In every bench seat car I've seen
(except our Crown Victoria...it's 50/50), the driver's side was the 60% and
the passenger's side was the 40%.  I guess not in the later G-Bodies.  My
parents had a '79 Grand Prix that was 60/40 driver/passenger.  I guess they
found some shortcomings with that setup.

Jason Adcock
jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.erols.com/adcockjk

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ray <rayc@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Bench to Buckets.. 78-88 G-Body.


>In my 87 Cutlass, the 40% is driver's side, and passenger is 60.  so the
>armrest position is controlled by passenger!!  What the?

>
>Ray Costanzo
>87 409 Cutlass coolant pit Supreme

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:50:15 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Radial T/As

Yes, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.  I've never had a hydroplaning
experience, so I couldn't judge the tires in the rain at speed, but the rain
might as well be ice if you jump on it (even with my 2.29 axle) in a corner.
Just be careful, that's all (as you should be in the rain, anyway).

Jason Adcock
jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.erols.com/adcockjk

- -----Original Message-----
From: Padavano.Joe@orbital.com <Padavano.Joe@orbital.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Radial T/As

>   off the line and I find that if I'm not careful with the application of
>   power on turns at intersections the back end will easily come around in
>   the wet.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:05:59 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: umm...T/A what?

Yep, Dave, T/A is the name of the BFG tire...or rather "Radial T/A" being
the correct full name.

As MFATZII@aol.com (let's get names to go with the e-mail addrs, eh?  :-)
pointed out, it probably does stand for Trans/Am...you'd have to ask
BFGoodrich that question.

Jason Adcock
jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.erols.com/adcockjk

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dave Cullen <david.cullen@snet.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 1:30 PM
Subject: umm...T/A what?


>Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T/A tire? Is it a BFG trade name, or a
>type of tire?

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:21:30 -0400
From: dave <dave70ss@ici.net>
Subject: olds show in RI

I believe there is an olds show june 21 in warwick RI
on jefferson blvd. oldsmobile dealership

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:29:39 -0400
From: super442@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Rear Cyclops light out.

At 10:05 PM 6/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello,
>	I own a 1988 rear wheel drive Olds Cutlass Classic and my
>rear cyclops brake light is out. Does any one know how to chang either
>the fuse or bulb on these things. Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>	Matt
>Matt,I think there is a screw on both sides for the "cover",remove that
and do what service you need.
>John
>
mailto:super442@mindspring.com
1985 Cutlass------T-tops--307 H.O./3.73  http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass------Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser wagon(G-body)--soon to be 403!!

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:40:33 +0600
From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Subject: Re: Increase rear brake pres,S10 wheel cyl,remove proportion?

> What about the 77 malibu rear drums, does
>anyone know if there 11''. And what mods to make it fit.

They're 11x2 inches and practially bolt on.  All they require is a little
filing on the baking plate and replacing the brake lines on the axle.  The
hole in the backing plate that slides over the very end of the axle housing
is too small by  .01 inch or so. You need to take a round file and run it
around the hole until it's just large enough to slide over the axle tube and
allow the backing plate to sit flush against the flange on the axle tube.
When I did it I just filed awhile, test fit, file some more, etc. 'till it
bolted up.  The bolt holes in the backing plate lined up perfectly with the
bolt holes in the flange.  Stock parking brake cable worked fine on my Vista
Cruiser, and the steel brake lines on the rearend that went to the brake
cylinders on each side had to be re-bent a little bit to fit the wheel
cylinders.  Decided later to replace the steel lines since it didn't seem
like a great idea to put new bends in 23 year old brake lines.  The brakes
work great.  Better stopping power, less fade, and a much better parking
brakes as well.

I don't remember for sure, but I think we managed to unbolt the malibu
backing plates without removing any of the brake shoes or hardware.  Just
had to unhook the brake line and parking brake cable.

Hope I was of some help.

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:36:41 EDT
From: <DROLDS350@aol.com>
Subject: Makin' Progress

I finally got the 455 installed in my Rallye. I elected to stay with the 350
engine and frame mounts. I probably wouln't have gotten the headers on other
wise. I still have a big concern on my starter cables. I bought a new solenoid
and I know the battery cable goes to ther big bolt and I know the purple wire
goes to the "s" terminal, but what other wires or there? The wire loom with
the purple wire has a black and orange/ yellow stripe, and a solid black wire
that I marked for the coil. Those were the only wires that came from the wire
loom that had the purple starter wire in it. My question is...
	What side of the coil does that solid black wire go to? The black wire 
with
the orange/ yellow stripe, where does this go?
	I contacted Year Ones tech line and a fellow said I should also have a 
red
wire that goes with the battery cable on the starter. I don't have a wire like
that. I wish I could have been around when my brother pulled the engine on my
car! He can't remember, so I am at a lose!
Can somebody please bail me out again?
Jim McKeague

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:41:00 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 4-4-2 By The Numbers

Chris Brown Witt wrote:

> ==================
> Bitchin! a Supercars Unlimited rep reading & contributing!
>
> I love their "By the Numbers" book, if only I had had something like that 
back
> in '84 or so when I was living in CA!
>
> Now, why the HELL did they not show the forged crank's J-shaped notch, and/or
> at least point out that that's what it looks like?! The one easy id tip that
> does not even require oil pan removal!
>
> --
> Chris Witt  *the* Rocket Scientist
> 1968 442 convertible, originally & to be again W30, et. al
> Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
> --

Chris,
When we wrote 4-4-2 By The Numbers back in '91, the main focus of the book was
to provide casting numbers and stamping codes as used on 65-72 4-4-2 400's and
455's. We wanted to provide the kind of information that people were calling
about - i.e. casting numbers and stamping codes.  And we felt the book should 
be
small enough to take to swap meets or when going to wrecking yards.  In fact we
edited out quite a bit of "fluff" to keep it a pocket size book.  In 
retrospect,
we probably should have included the external forged crank flange marking.  As
this would obviously help when viewing an assembled engine (like at a wrecking
yard!).  Duly noted.

We just recently sold the last one of the last printing run we did.  There will
be a few additions made in the next printing.  And the crank flange ID will be
one of them.  The next 4-4-2 By The Numbers printing should be available
sometime late summer/early fall.


- --
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:50:24 EDT
From: <OLDSMUSCLE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Cyclops light out.

MATT,
           BEEN THERE, DONE IT! A COUPLE TIMES!!  TO CHANGE BULB, REMOVE THE
TWO SCREWS AT THE BASE OF THE HOUSING.  PULL IT UP FROM THE CARPETED BACK
SHELF.  THEN, I BELIEVE THAT THE HOUSING COMES APART INTO TWO PIECES, AT WHICH
TIME YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AT THE BULB, TO MAKE THE CHANGE.  HAVE FUN, AND
TRY NOT TO CURSE TOO MUCH!

                                        DAN EDWARDS
70 C/S CONV
87 SALON

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:06:50 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Makin' Progress

DROLDS350@aol.com wrote:

>  I still have a big concern on my starter cables. I bought a new solenoid
> and I know the battery cable goes to ther big bolt and I know the purple wire
> goes to the "s" terminal, but what other wires or there? The wire loom with
> the purple wire has a black and orange/ yellow stripe, and a solid black wire
> that I marked for the coil. Those were the only wires that came from the wire
> loom that had the purple starter wire in it. My question is...
>         What side of the coil does that solid black wire go to? The black 
wire
with > the orange/ yellow stripe, where does this go? >         I contacted 
Year
Ones tech line and a fellow said I should also have a red > wire that goes with
the battery cable on the starter. I don't have a wire like > that.

 Jim,
There should be a tan wire that attaches to your "R" terminal on the solenoid.
The other end of it attaches to the + side of the coil where it is crimped
together with a black wire.  I have never seen a second red wire attached to 
the
battery cable lead on a 70 harness.

- --
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:14:36 -0400
From: Cliff McFarlane <mcfrlan@bconnex.net>
Subject: Parts For Sale - Early 60's Full Size

Hello list members. Lately I've been trying to organize extra parts that
I have into a list and sort them away in boxes. The following is what I
have done so far and all parts listed here are for sale, and get this,
in CANADIAN dollars. If you or anybody you know are interested in any of
the following parts you can get in touch with me at mcfrlan@bconnex.net
or at 1-905-936-3381. Some parts are N.O.S. but most are VG - EX used.

Cliff McFarlane
63 Starfire htp - http://www.442.com/mcfarlane.html
62 Starfire conv - in restoration

No parts on this list are for F-85 vehicles

Year	      Quantity	Part #	Description		

1963 All          2 	586805	headlight door
1962-1964 All	  1	584413	washer fluid bottle
1963-1964 All     1	587996	gas pedal			
1961-1963 All     1	588033	brake
pedal			     w/power brake
1963 All exc.S/F  1	382293	trunk lid emblem exc. S/F
1963 Dynamic 88   1	4895718	roof ?Holiday? script LH side
     & Super 88
1963 Dynamic 88   1	4895717	roof ?Holiday? script RH side
&Super 88	
1963 All          2	5953854	parking light 
assemblies	        1963 All	
1	587272	glove box lining		        1963 Super 
88	  1	380207	fender
script ?Super 88?	
1963 Dynamic 88   1 	5953951	LH taillight housing & lens	
     & Super 88
1963 Dynamic 88   1	382299	trunk lid 
ornament		             & Super 88	
1963 All exc.98	  1	897654	rear license 
lamp		
1963 All exc.D88  1	380208	RF w/o flange			
1963 All exc.D88  1	380209	LF w/o flange			
1963 S/F & 98 SC  1 	588130 	tachometer package		
1963 S/F & S88    3     380240	RR rocker panel heel moulding
1963 S/F & S88    3	380241	LR rocker panel heel moulding
1963 Starfire     1	5954120	RH taillight housing & lens	
1963 Starfire	  2	5954125	LH taillight 
ornament		
1963 Starfire     1	5954119	LH taillight housing & lens	
1963 Starfire     2	5954123	LH taillight 
lens			1963 Starfire	  1	380216
RF fender insert moulding	
1963 All 	  1	586936	RF bumper extension	
1963 All 	  1	586937	LF bumper extension	
1956 All          1	568189	power antenna switch		
1956 All          1		ignition switch			
1963 Starfire	  1	3802000	RF fender 
moulding	        1963-1964 All	  1
588049	through, main wiring harness	
1963 All	  1	587176	upper right gravel deflector exten.
1962 Starfire 	  1     381174	front fender script 
?Starfire?	
1961-1963 All     2	4775786	vent window 
handle		    	
1962-1964 All     2	4839529	door locking knob		
1963 Starfire     1	5954120	RH taillight cluster		
1963-1964 All exc.1 	588465  rear window defroster switch
        s/w & conv
1963 All exc S/F  1	4740279	rear seat back radio 
grille 	    	
1963 All	  1	982136	AM radio (working)	
1963 All 	  1     982136  AM radio (works very well) 	
1963 All	  1     982137	wonderbar radio (not working)
1963 Starfire	  1	3802000	RH front fender moulding
1963 Starfire	  1	3802001	LH front fender moulding
1963 Starfire     1	380216	RH front fender insert moulding
1963 Starfire	  1	308217	LH front fender insert moulding
1963 All	  1	982136	AM Radio (working, no knobs)	
1963 All	  1	1116633	ignition Switch w/key		
1963-1964 All     1     588397	map light w/lens 		
1963 All	  1		glove box door with lock	
1963 All	  1	587798	clock bezel & clock		
1963 All	  1	5715852	RH door striker 
plate	                1963
All          1	5715853	LH door striker 
plate	                1963 All	
1		windshield washer switch (w/knob)
1959-1965 All	  1		RH windshield wiper arm(deluxe)
1959-1965 All     1		LH windshield wiper arm(deluxe)
1963 All	  1	1995125	headlight switch exc.guidematic
1963-1964 All	  1	982145	manual radio antenna package
1963 All	  1	586926	RH front fender extension	
1963 All	  1	586927	LH front fender extension	
1963 All	  1	4787463	RH interior door handle	
1963 All	  1	4787464	LH interior door 
handle		      	

(parts that are to big for boxes)

1963 S/F & S88    2	380204	RF wheel opening moulding
1963 S/F & S88    2	380245	LR wheel opening moulding
1963 S/F & S88    1	380205	LF wheel opening moulding	
1963 S/F & S88    2	380244	RR wheel opening moulding
1963 S/F & S88    1	380204	RF wheel opening moulding	
1963 S/F & S88    1	380205	LF wheel opening moulding	
1963 Super 88     1	380200	RF fender moulding (S88)
1963 Super 88	  1     380201	LF fender moulding (S88)
1963 Super 88  	  1  	382275	LH ¼ panel moulding 
(S88)	
1963 Super 88 2dr 2	382238	door moulding 
(S88) 	     	
1962 Super 88     1		trunk capet 
set		                1963 Super 88	  1	
trunk carpet set			1963 Super 88     1	
4392453	LH door panel (S88) with
p/w
1963 Super 88     1     4392454 RH door panel (S88) with p/w
1963 Super 88     1	4410115	LH K-B board (beige)		
1963 Super 88	  1 	4410114	RH K-B board (beige)	
1963 Super 88	  1     380291	upper rear moulding (cast)
1963 All	  1	587389	front 
bumper		                1963 All	  1	587564
dashboard safety pad 		
1963 S/F & S88    2	382245	¼ panel crown moulding	
1963		  1		complete motor 394 4bbl,	
				runs good, should be rebuilt
1963              1		Hydramatic transmission 	
				(red fluid)
1963 All	  1	587183	front aluminum gravel deflector

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:36:03 EDT
From: <ANTIQOLDS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: olds show in RI

In a message dated 98-06-18 22:35:21 EDT, you write:

<<
 I believe there is an olds show june 21 in warwick RI
 on jefferson blvd. oldsmobile dealership
  >>
   June 21st  9Am-3PM  2nd Annual all Oldsmobile show at Cerrone Oldsmobile
   Judging 12noon - 2PM Trophies at 3PM
    Jefferson Blvd exit off 95 So in Warwick, R.I. take a left about 1/2 mile
on right.
    Route 37 Exit off 95 No in Warwick jefferson Blvd exit runs off this exit
take a right 1/2 mile on right


Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:36:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry <kajrav@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: 68 sport wheel

     I believe that the '67 and '68 used the same column so the wheel
should fit.

                                                   Larry


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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:35:36 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Blower motors

I have a 1972 Olds 442 Convt. that had factory A/C. I pulled the unit out
and I have the hole where the evaporator was before on the firewall. I want
to install a blower motor so I can have heat and also so that the hole
would be covered up. What must I buy and from whom to fix this problem?

Thanks,
Peter

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:07:12 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: moving

Ed Binnix wrote:
>
> Well, so long everybody. I'm moving this weekend. Packing up the computer
> tonight. I'll be back after I get another e-mail account in Kentucky.

Probably missed ya, Ed, but where in Ky are you moving to?  I'm just
south of Lexington, Ky.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:09:39 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: 69' Tic-Tac-Tock

Padavano.Joe@orbital.com wrote:

>      And the correct term is TicTocTach  (no "K"s)


Anybody got one of these that works they want to unload reasonably for a
69 and a 70 and a 72?

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:16:42 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Posi Help

- ----------
> From: Randy A. Geisel <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Posi Help
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 7:40 PM
>
> Robert,
>
> The blueing is from excessive heat (friction), lack of lubrication. Have
you
> ever seen a spun bearing?

I can't understand why this would be.  There was the proper level of lube
in the rear before I pulled it out.
What my guess for the blueing was excessive hammering of the pinion shaft
into the case.
The blued metal is only on the side of the damage and no where else.

>
> How does the pinion bearing look? You can use an open case as a
replacement
> as long as the case matches the old one. (10 or 12 bolt, c-clips or not)
The
> carrier is what makes the difference between open or posi.

I don't know what the pinion bearing is or where it is.  I don't see its
location in my chassis manual.

Another question.   Is there a hardened case available??

> Is your ring gear and pinion still useable?

Yes

>How about the carrier?

OK

> Has it been slipping? If so its time to rebuild or replace.

Yes it has been slipping.  Just the past drag season

> Hope this helps,
> Randy
>
>

Yes Randy it helps.  This is a new area for me to learn.   so all help is
appreciated

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:45:20 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Lots 'O' Parts For Sale

ok here we go..........

parting out a 65 cutlass convertible:
many good usable parts including black bucket seats. if you need a part of a
65, ask me if its on this car.


parting out 67 cutlass supreme:
solid body
missing some parts
14x6 ss1's


parting out 70 442:
rebuilt 455, never fired
m-21 4-speed
frount and rear bumpers
good sheet metal
consle shifter (auto)


parting out 71 442:
many good parts
louvered hood
grills
cutout bumper

if you need a part not listed or that might be on one of the cars............
email me PRIVATELY. ill let you know if i have it and then about the price and
shipping. prices will be reasonable cause i want to get rid of most of this
stuff. THANKS and remember EMAIL ME PRIVATELY!!!!!!!

Brent (Cnvrt67@aol.com)
1967 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:57:18 -0400
From: Jim & Jo Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Parts For Sale: New Stuff

Here's a few things that we've just got in.

64 442 Air Cleaner (very nice original with nice top plate, want to trade
for 70-72 OAI Breather assm)

65 442 Air Cleaner Top (no base)  $125.00
66-67 Fan Shroud (mint)  $100.00
69 Cutlass Grilles (mint LH, N.O.S. RH)  $140.00 pr
69 Cutlass Rear Bumper (nice, no pits, straight)  $110.00
69 Tail light Bezels (mint)  $150.00 pr
69 Head light Housings (mint)  $75.00 pr
69 Head light Bezels (mint)  $65.00 pr
69 Hood Tongue $20.00
70 Hood Tongue $40.00
70-72 Clock (nice)  $40.00
71-72 Fan Shroud (mint)  $50.00

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