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oldsmobile-digest        Monday, July 27 1998        Volume 01 : Number 1390



Re: Spark plug question
Re: Spark plug question
Olds guy in need (kind of olds)
cowl tags
Re: Proportioning valve
Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale
sorry about the Dbbl post
Sending Units
Re: Sending Units
Re: Sending Units
Re: Sending Units
How much timing to use?
open vs. divided carb spacers
Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale
[none]
70 442. What's it worth?
Re: open vs. divided carb spacers
New burnout page
Overdrive Tranny's
Re: 70 442. What's it worth?
looking for a parts car
Paint code 48  (What shade of green?)
Re: Paint code 48  (What shade of green?)
Re: Paint code 48  (What shade of green?)
Re: 70 442. What's it worth?
Place an ad?
Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale
Re: Proportioning valve
Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale
hey mr. auto-math man ...!
hey g-body guys  !!
Re: hey mr. auto-math man ...!
Transmission ID Code
455 motor
Olds Heads
Re: 455 motor
350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds
New cam bearings?
WANTED: Radiator top plate
Hello!  I am an Olds fanatic!
Re: New cam bearings?
Re: hey mr. auto-math man ...!
BACK FROM ROAD TRIP
In search of...
Re: Hello!  I am an Olds fanatic!
4 speed wanted
Re: Olds Heads
Re: W31 exhaust manifolds
UNBOUNCE: Cowl Tags
Re: 350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds
Re: Olds Heads
Re: 4 speed wanted
hood ornament
Re: 350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds
DMR event-455 tuning
Switching to digest...
Re: Olds Heads
Re: Olds Heads
Re: 350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds
Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale
Re: 455 motor
Re: Proportioning valve

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 04:54:33 -0400
From: Peter Flinkfelt <pftno1klr@edgenet.net>
Subject: Re: Spark plug question

Sounds like you need new wires. When they start to wear out, you get a
faint glow sometimes. It is from the electric charge leaking off into the
visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Peter

Joseph & Kurt Wolfe wrote:

> Took my 72 out for a ride this evening and happened to open the hood
> while it was dark and I thought I saw faint light coming from my spark
> plugs as the engine was running. Have I gone off the deep end? Any
> thoughts appreciated. Thanks
>
> Joe

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 08:50:19 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Spark plug question

>Took my 72 out for a ride this evening and happened to open the hood
>while it was dark and I thought I saw faint light coming from my spark
>plugs as the engine was running.

Not really uncommon, especially if it's real humid out. The wires can absorb
moisture and lose some of their insulating properties. Time for new wires.

drc

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 06:34:03 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Olds guy in need (kind of olds)

I was at the speed shop saterday ,and thare was a guy asking for headers
for a olds 307,and i was like ,ahh ,what for?
(get this )a 95 del sol! i dont know about you,but i have never seen
that combo befor.anyway ,he can't find headers to fit,if thars anybody
out thare that knows of one that mite fit ,plese email me privete.
Thanks.
       Ryan



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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:59:55 EDT
From: <GKemper248@aol.com>
Subject: cowl tags

I am considering buying a supposed 65' 442 convertible. Owner has no
documentation. The car seems original. What I want to know is, If there is any
info on the cowl tag that will help me determine if it had the 442 option?
Thanks in advance.       Glenn Kemper

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:40:56 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Proportioning valve

todd thomas wrote:
>
> I need a proportioning valve for my 72w30, The kid {and i mean kid} that
> I got the car from put tranny fluid in the master cylinder,what a
> mess,So I am looking for a metering valve,I have replaced everything
> else.

Todd,
You can get the proprtioning valve from the Year One or GM.
The description in the YO catalog didn't make sense when compared to the
shop manual (referencing OAI), so I called the GM dealer and determined
the one YO sells is the 2 function valve ($48) for use on manual disc
brakes and all station wagons.  The 3 function valve is used on
everything else.  If you need the 3 function valve, order p/n 2550-9418
from your GM dealer.  Price is about $70.

BTW, the person I talked to at Year One didn't seem concerned that they
were selling the wrong proportioning valve, he stated that the used the
description from GM.

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
OCA# 30442

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:06:29 -0400
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale

FWIW, 3:42 was not a stock ratio for '65.  3:23, 3:55, 3:90?

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com
Centennial Feature at http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

- ----------
> From: Cnvrt67@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 65 Posi 4 Sale
> Date: Saturday, July 25, 1998 7:43 PM
>
> For any one interested...... i know of a 65 posi for sale. its out of a
442
> and has 3:42 gears in it. i talked the guy down to $300 for it but offer
him
> something lower and see if he will take it. he is located in arizona.
Email
> is............... UltiProd@ix.netcom.com. usual disclaimers apply.
>
> Brent
> 1967 Cutlass Convertible
> http://members.aol.com/Cnvrt67/index.html

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:23:27 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: sorry about the Dbbl post

I must have been cocked!
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         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
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http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:08:53 -0400
From: "John Gill" <jgill@idmi.com>
Subject: Sending Units

On a 455, I'm making sure I'm looking at the right sending unit for the oil
pressure and water temperature.

The sending unit mounted just behind the water pump is the water temp?
and the one mounted at the front of the intake manifold is the oil
pressure?

John

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:23:36 EDT
From: <KASOLDS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Sending Units

Its the other way around.  The sending unit in the intake manifold is the
water temp., and the other one is the oil pressure.

Keith 1970 442

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 09:26:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Sending Units

- ---John Gill <jgill@idmi.com> wrote:
>
> On a 455, I'm making sure I'm looking at the right sending unit for
the oil
> pressure and water temperature.
>
> The sending unit mounted just behind the water pump is the water temp?
> and the one mounted at the front of the intake manifold is the oil
> pressure?
>
> John
>
>
Sounds like you got it back-asswards :)
    The one directly behind the water pump ,where the oil fill tube
and casting # is = oil pressure,water temp guage is on the front of
the intake.
               What's the 455 in?
                   John

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:29:19 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Sending Units

>On a 455, I'm making sure I'm looking at the right sending unit for the oil
pressure and water temperature. The sending unit mounted just behind the
water pump is the water temp?and the one mounted at the front of the intake
manifold is the oil pressure?


I believe it's the other way around. Atleast on a 350 it is.  Intake is the
water temp and oil is behind H20 pump

Easy way to check is to turn ignition to on (idiot lights will be lit) and
disconnect the wire at one of the sending units. The idiot light for the
unit will go out or if you have gauges the gauge should read zero.

Randy

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:43:50 -0400
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: How much timing to use?

I found out that the vacuum advance diaphragm was blown out of my
Mallory Unilite distributor.  Now that it is fixed, I'm wondering how
much advance Olds engines use.

I have a 350 with about 325HP (mild cam, 4bbl, intake, etc.)  I'm
currently running 14 degrees at idle, with the engine revved up, the
mechanical kicks in another 26 (as set with the stepped Mallory key),
then the vacuum is adjusted to minimum advance (screw in all the way),
for a grand total of around 45-50 degrees.  I think this is too much.

Should I have less mechanical and then add more vacuum advance?  I'm
totally clueless as to how much each should be.  I'm not getting any
detonation, but I'm sure there's some horsepower I'm not getting.

- -greg

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:46:49 -0400
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: open vs. divided carb spacers

I just realized after looking through the Jets catalog that I'm
running a 1" open spacer between my Edelbrock performer carb and
intake and that this could be removing any advantage of a dual plane
intake.

Will it make a difference to use a four hole spacer that keeps the
sides of the intake separated?

I have to use a spacer so the throttle linkage will clear the EGR
blockoff plate.

- -greg

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:34:46 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale

the guy told me it had 3:42's in it. he might have replace the carrier...im
not sure. ask him        UltiProd@ix.netcom.com

Brent

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:38:16 -0500
From: JC Fredenburg <drolds@geocities.com>
Subject: [none]

There is a 70 442 for sale in the local paper (located in the rust belt)..
I would like to know if what I am going to offer for it is a good offer. I
am going to offer the owner $3750.00 for it and can go up to $4500.00 The
car has been usually garaged since at least 1985, and has not been altered
in any MAJOR way, runs very good, drives okay. EVERY OPTION IT CAME WITH IS
STILL INTACT, AND MOST WORK. The car has never been apart.
This is how the car breaks down.

Exterior:
Platinum with Black Vinyl top, Black Y73 Hood Stripes, Black
Body-side/Trunk Stripes.

Interior:
Black

Options:
A02 Tinted Windows
A31 Power Windows
AK1 Deluxe Seat Belts
B32 Front Floor Mats
B33 Rear Floor Mats
C08 Rooftop Covering
C60 Air Conditioner
D35 Sport Mirrors
D55 Sports Console
G66 Superlift Shocks
G92 3.42:1 Axle Package:
    Includes:
            G92 Axle
            G80 Anti-Spin Axle
            V02 Heavy Duty Radiator
JL2 Power Brakes
K30 Cruise Control (does not work though)
M40 TH400
N33 Tilt-Away Steering Wheel
N66 SSII Wheels
PK5 G70 x 14" Goodyear Wide Ovals
T44 Hood Lock
U21 Rally Pac
U58 Stereo AM-FM Stereophonic
W26 Hurst Dual Gate
Y60 Light Group
Y73 Paint Stripes G.T. Hood

The car will need to have the rear 1/4 panels replaced the trunk has some
holes in it, the RF Fender is a goner, the front suspension is totally
shot, the trany needs some work, the #'s matching motor runs great (no
smoke or any strange noises), needs new exhaust, the A/C does not work, nor
does the cruise, the tires are shot, as well as the brake lines and hoses,
the fuel lines leak, the interior is nice and clean, no holes in it at all
the dash pad is in okay shape ,no cracks, the dual gate/console need to be
restored, the drivers seat is starting to come apart, the door panels are
clean and not ripped, the power windows still work well, the car is
basically in need of a lot of body work, and major detailing, it is a very
low #4 car ( 0-6 scale 0=Highest) I figure $1700.00 would make it a good
driver (no body work done though)

Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
JC

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:42:44 -0500
From: JC Fredenburg <drolds@geocities.com>
Subject: 70 442. What's it worth?

There is a 70 442 for sale in the local paper (located in the rust belt)..
I would like to know if what I am going to offer for it is a good offer. I
am going to offer the owner $3750.00 for it and can go up to $4500.00 The
car has been usually garaged since at least 1985, and has not been altered
in any MAJOR way, runs very good, drives okay. EVERY OPTION IT CAME WITH IS
STILL INTACT, AND MOST WORK. The car has never been apart.
This is how the car breaks down.

Exterior:
Platinum with Black Vinyl top, Black Y73 Hood Stripes, Black
Body-side/Trunk Stripes.

Interior:
Black

Options:
A02 Tinted Windows
A31 Power Windows
AK1 Deluxe Seat Belts
B32 Front Floor Mats
B33 Rear Floor Mats
C08 Rooftop Covering
C60 Air Conditioner
D35 Sport Mirrors
D55 Sports Console
G66 Superlift Shocks
G92 3.42:1 Axle Package:
    Includes:
            G92 Axle
            G80 Anti-Spin Axle
            V02 Heavy Duty Radiator
JL2 Power Brakes
K30 Cruise Control (does not work though)
M40 TH400
N33 Tilt-Away Steering Wheel
N66 SSII Wheels
PK5 G70 x 14" Goodyear Wide Ovals
T44 Hood Lock
U21 Rally Pac
U58 Stereo AM-FM Stereophonic
W26 Hurst Dual Gate
Y60 Light Group
Y73 Paint Stripes G.T. Hood

The car will need to have the rear 1/4 panels replaced the trunk has some
holes in it, the RF Fender is a goner, the front suspension is totally
shot, the trany needs some work, the #'s matching motor runs great (no
smoke or any strange noises), needs new exhaust, the A/C does not work, nor
does the cruise, the tires are shot, as well as the brake lines and hoses,
the fuel lines leak, the interior is nice and clean, no holes in it at all
the dash pad is in okay shape ,no cracks, the dual gate/console need to be
restored, the drivers seat is starting to come apart, the door panels are
clean and not ripped, the power windows still work well, the car is
basically in need of a lot of body work, and major detailing, it is a very
low #4 car ( 0-6 scale 0=Highest) I figure $1700.00 would make it a good
driver (no body work done though)

Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
JC


c

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:51:28 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Re: open vs. divided carb spacers

Just renewed system.
Anybody who failed to reach me, please re-send.

Meantime:

<<   I'm running a 1" open spacer between my Edelbrock performer carb and
intake and that this could be removing any advantage of a dual plane intake.
Will it make a difference to use a four hole spacer that keeps the sides of
the intake separated? I have to use a spacer so the throttle linkage will
clear the EGR blockoff plate. >>

Yes, you are changing flow characteristics with an open open spacer/ dual
plane setup as opposed to carb/intake and carb/4-O/intake  (uh, four hole
spacer). But to tell you true, any different combination along those lines
will have different flow properties

In a VERY general sense, the dual plane opening may act as a venturi, because
of the large open area in the spacer, and the somewhat lesser area at the
point where the fuel-air mix flows through the dual-plane.

As for making a difference.....
You would probably not notice a difference, no.
*Might* show in you E.T.'s or something, or if you have a full dynamometer
check of you car, but otherwise prolly not.

The four-holes are pretty cheap compared to sq-bore/spreadbore adapters, but
do you need a full 1"? I thought there were 1/2" spacers out there.....

KA
&SOM

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: JM <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: New burnout page

  Hi Gang,
         I've just put up a burn out page,anybody got any pics ?I know
you guys (& gals) don't want those CH$%Y and F^%D folks to show you
up,so help me out ,OK?
             Thanks,
                    John



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1984 Cutlass-Moonroof-307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/PatsCar.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:00:19 -0500
From: Stephen Hoover <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Overdrive Tranny's

I ran across this web page today and thought others might want to look
at it.


www.phoenixtrans.com

Give some insight on what application each overdrive is good for.


Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:51:17 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: 70 442. What's it worth?

well in the condition you describe I would be hesitant to pay over 2000 to
2500 my 69 442 all original no rust california baby needing just tender
loving care was offered at 3500 and I bought it at 2300 the original engine
neds some work but it is a judgement call...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: JC Fredenburg <drolds@geocities.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 11:42 AM
Subject: 70 442. What's it worth?


>There is a 70 442 for sale in the local paper (located in the rust belt)..
>I would like to know if what I am going to offer for it is a good offer. I
>am going to offer the owner $3750.00 for it and can go up to $4500.00 The
>car has been usually garaged since at least 1985, and has not been altered
>in any MAJOR way, runs very good, drives okay. EVERY OPTION IT CAME WITH IS
>STILL INTACT, AND MOST WORK. The car has never been apart.
>This is how the car breaks down.
>
>Exterior:
>Platinum with Black Vinyl top, Black Y73 Hood Stripes, Black
>Body-side/Trunk Stripes.
>
>Interior:
>Black
>
>Options:
>A02 Tinted Windows
>A31 Power Windows
>AK1 Deluxe Seat Belts
>B32 Front Floor Mats
>B33 Rear Floor Mats
>C08 Rooftop Covering
>C60 Air Conditioner
>D35 Sport Mirrors
>D55 Sports Console
>G66 Superlift Shocks
>G92 3.42:1 Axle Package:
>    Includes:
>            G92 Axle
>            G80 Anti-Spin Axle
>            V02 Heavy Duty Radiator
>JL2 Power Brakes
>K30 Cruise Control (does not work though)
>M40 TH400
>N33 Tilt-Away Steering Wheel
>N66 SSII Wheels
>PK5 G70 x 14" Goodyear Wide Ovals
>T44 Hood Lock
>U21 Rally Pac
>U58 Stereo AM-FM Stereophonic
>W26 Hurst Dual Gate
>Y60 Light Group
>Y73 Paint Stripes G.T. Hood
>
>The car will need to have the rear 1/4 panels replaced the trunk has some
>holes in it, the RF Fender is a goner, the front suspension is totally
>shot, the trany needs some work, the #'s matching motor runs great (no
>smoke or any strange noises), needs new exhaust, the A/C does not work, nor
>does the cruise, the tires are shot, as well as the brake lines and hoses,
>the fuel lines leak, the interior is nice and clean, no holes in it at all
>the dash pad is in okay shape ,no cracks, the dual gate/console need to be
>restored, the drivers seat is starting to come apart, the door panels are
>clean and not ripped, the power windows still work well, the car is
>basically in need of a lot of body work, and major detailing, it is a very
>low #4 car ( 0-6 scale 0=Highest) I figure $1700.00 would make it a good
>driver (no body work done though)
>
>Any help would be appreciated!
>Thanks,
>JC
>
>
>c
>

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:13:58 EDT
From: <HOFFAX181@aol.com>
Subject: looking for a parts car

i need some body parts for my 84 delta 88 royale 2 door i have a chance to get
it painted for free if i can get the body parts i need.  i need at least one
quarter panel and one door  would rather have both quarters though

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:28:19 PDT
From: "flynt myrick" <f_myrick@hotmail.com>
Subject: Paint code 48  (What shade of green?)

What shade of green is Brewster green(code 48)?  Is it light or dark?
Are there any pictures of cars on the web painted this shade of green?

Flynt Myrick
f_myrick@hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:22:29 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Paint code 48  (What shade of green?)

What Year? model?
- -----Original Message-----
From: flynt myrick <f_myrick@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 1:29 PM
Subject: Paint code 48 (What shade of green?)


>What shade of green is Brewster green(code 48)?  Is it light or dark?
>Are there any pictures of cars on the web painted this shade of green?
>
>Flynt Myrick
>f_myrick@hotmail.com
>http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:41:53 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Paint code 48  (What shade of green?)

flynt myrick wrote:
>
> What shade of green is Brewster green(code 48)?  Is it light or dark?
> Are there any pictures of cars on the web painted this shade of green?

Brewster Green is very dark.  Like a forest green.  Don't know about
pics on the Web...

Paul
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Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:41:35 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 70 442. What's it worth?

With whats wrong with this car , I think 3750.00 is a real good price. Unless
this owner knows what he has , as far as a desirable collectors car. Good 
luck.

JC Fredenburg wrote:

> There is a 70 442 for sale in the local paper (located in the rust belt)..
> I would like to know if what I am going to offer for it is a good offer. I
> am going to offer the owner $3750.00 for it and can go up to $4500.00 The
> car has been usually garaged since at least 1985, and has not been altered
> in any MAJOR way, runs very good, drives okay. EVERY OPTION IT CAME WITH IS
> STILL INTACT, AND MOST WORK. The car has never been apart.
> This is how the car breaks down.
>
> Exterior:
> Platinum with Black Vinyl top, Black Y73 Hood Stripes, Black
> Body-side/Trunk Stripes.
>
> Interior:
> Black
>
> Options:
> A02 Tinted Windows
> A31 Power Windows
> AK1 Deluxe Seat Belts
> B32 Front Floor Mats
> B33 Rear Floor Mats
> C08 Rooftop Covering
> C60 Air Conditioner
> D35 Sport Mirrors
> D55 Sports Console
> G66 Superlift Shocks
> G92 3.42:1 Axle Package:
>     Includes:
>             G92 Axle
>             G80 Anti-Spin Axle
>             V02 Heavy Duty Radiator
> JL2 Power Brakes
> K30 Cruise Control (does not work though)
> M40 TH400
> N33 Tilt-Away Steering Wheel
> N66 SSII Wheels
> PK5 G70 x 14" Goodyear Wide Ovals
> T44 Hood Lock
> U21 Rally Pac
> U58 Stereo AM-FM Stereophonic
> W26 Hurst Dual Gate
> Y60 Light Group
> Y73 Paint Stripes G.T. Hood
>
> The car will need to have the rear 1/4 panels replaced the trunk has some
> holes in it, the RF Fender is a goner, the front suspension is totally
> shot, the trany needs some work, the #'s matching motor runs great (no
> smoke or any strange noises), needs new exhaust, the A/C does not work, nor
> does the cruise, the tires are shot, as well as the brake lines and hoses,
> the fuel lines leak, the interior is nice and clean, no holes in it at all
> the dash pad is in okay shape ,no cracks, the dual gate/console need to be
> restored, the drivers seat is starting to come apart, the door panels are
> clean and not ripped, the power windows still work well, the car is
> basically in need of a lot of body work, and major detailing, it is a very
> low #4 car ( 0-6 scale 0=Highest) I figure $1700.00 would make it a good
> driver (no body work done though)
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
> Thanks,
> JC
>
> c

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:49:10 EDT
From: <CT31MOOSE@aol.com>
Subject: Place an ad?

Trying to find out how to place a posting or ad to sell an Olds Cutlass. Any
help would be great.       Thanks

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:50:00 -0400
From: "Robert Handren" <rhandren@gate.net>
Subject: Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale

<<For any one interested...... i know of a 65 posi for sale. its out of a
442
and has 3:42 gears in it. i talked the guy down to $300 for it but offer him
something lower and see if he will take it. he is located in arizona. Email
is............... UltiProd@ix.netcom.com. usual disclaimers apply.

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible>>

I don't believe there was  3.42 available in 65. Ratios were 3.08, 3.23,
3.55, 3.90. Are you sure this is the original? Could easily be newer.

If it is original and is not going into something that's an "original"
restoration, be aware that these rears ("P" types) were significantly beefed
for the 66-67 model years until Olds came out with the "O" of their own
design. The 66-67 units used a 4 pinion cone type posi and stronger
metallurgy in the axels. Contrary to another post the "O" didn't come out
until 67 and not immediately. My 67 came with a "P". "B" was for the
non-performance applications. Smaller pinion gear stem diamater. Otherwise a
lot of "B" and "P" parts interchange.

One of the reasons I know the 64-65 rear is a weak sister is 'cause I blew
the one in my new '65 in about 2 weeks way back then. While undergoing
warranty repairs I was told the above and have verified it since I still own
the '67 W-30 Trak Pak. As a testament to how tough that little old 10 bolt
can be, even after Olds brought out their own rear in 67, all the factory
W-30s came with the "P" 4 pinion posi rear.

Bob Handren

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:52:01 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Proportioning valve

Kurt Heinrich wrote:

> The 3 function valve is used on
> everything else.  If you need the 3 function valve, order p/n 2550-9418
> from your GM dealer.  Price is about $70.

So, are you saying that this is the valve that my '72 Cutlass Supreme
convertible with power disc brakes (without outside air induction) would
use?  I'll be converting mine over to discs soon and will be needing a
new proportioning valve.  My current one has been exposed to the
atmosphere since removing if from a parts car sometime around '91.  I'm
sure it isn't usable anymore.  I didn't think they were available as new
parts anymore.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:54:23 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale

In a message dated 98-07-26 11:20:27 EDT, you write:

<<
 FWIW, 3:42 was not a stock ratio for '65.  3:23, 3:55, 3:90?
  >>

The appropriate codes are: SF for 3.23  and  SJ for 3.55
no 3.90 available for F-85's  (mebbe 4 4 2's)

3.42 WAS avail for full-size cars; code QJ and QR!

So, exactly what is the difference between full size/F-85 axles in 1965?
Wider?

I would like to know because I aquired two appropriate axle shafts from a
closing salvage yard. Was not able to compare against mine. Just ID'ed by
flanges.

I had better save that AZ guy's Email address.....

KA
&SOM

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:55:03 -0000
From: "erik HILL" <ehill@gowebway.com>
Subject: hey mr. auto-math man ...!

I have 2.56 gears in my  '88 w/200-r4 riding on pirelli
235/40-17's  supersport   p7000's

currently, at 2000rpm I'm doin' 60mph in overdrive
[according to the newly transplanted rally guages]

when I go to 3.73's w/same ovrdrv 200-r4 what rpm will i need to run that
same 60mph  ???


erik

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:59:14 -0000
From: "erik HILL" <ehill@gowebway.com>
Subject: hey g-body guys  !!

	
does anyone have a set of those
tubular exh.manifolds talked about awhile ago
for an '88.

they should flow alittle better than the regular cast iron style, right
??


erik.

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:21:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: JM <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: hey mr. auto-math man ...!

- ---erik HILL <ehill@gowebway.com> wrote:
>
> I have 2.56 gears in my  '88 w/200-r4 riding on pirelli
> 235/40-17's  supersport   p7000's
>
> currently, at 2000rpm I'm doin' 60mph in overdrive
> [according to the newly transplanted rally guages]
>
> when I go to 3.73's w/same ovrdrv 200-r4 what rpm will i need to run
that
> same 60mph  ???


  Erik,
       My calculations show you're current RPM's are actually 2116
with the 2.56,works out to 3083 with the 3.73 .You tire dia is 24.4 on
a 235/40/17,hope this helps
         John
 Remember that the factory tach is within GM's specs,doesn't mean
total accuracy,shall we say,"Close enough for govt. work" :)
==
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-Moonroof-307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/PatsCar.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
 mailto:super442@yahoo.com


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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:26:46 PDT
From: "flynt myrick" <f_myrick@hotmail.com>
Subject: Transmission ID Code

List members,
  What is the correct code for a 1973 442 automatic transmission?  It
should be two letters that begin with "O".  What other information is
given on the transmission ID tag on a turbo 400?  Is the build date of
the transmission given on the ID tag?
  Any information will be appreciated.

Flynt Myrick
f_myrick@hotmail.com
http://www.hotmail.com


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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:09:53 -0500
From: Tom Williams <tjwilli@megavision.com>
Subject: 455 motor

HI All,
   I am going to look at a rebuilt 455 tommorow, and would like some
input. I am not the smartest Oldsmobile individual by any stretch. The
young man selling the motor and car is not familiar with Oldsmobiles.
The car was giving to this individual due to a payment owed him. The 455
has the J heads, is bored .30 and is running aftermarket Holley carb and
aftermarket intake. The rear is posi but he is not sure if 3:23 or what.
The motor is sitting in a 1979 Cutlass, it also has a rebuilt tranny and
B@M shifter. Is the J heads a good set to have? He is asking and will
not take any less than $500.00
Thanks in Advance for any responses to my questions.

Thanks,
Tom
Than

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:44:25 -0400
From: "Roger Nienberg" <s002rwn@discover.wright.edu>
Subject: Olds Heads

	I was wondering if anyone knows where I might find a set of aluminum 
heads
for a Olds 350. They can be new or used. A cheap price would be nice but I
not expecting one.


Roger Nienberg
Glandorf, OH
69' Cutlass S Convertible
90' Camaro RS

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:45:54 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: 455 motor

At 06:09 PM 7/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>HI All,
>   I am going to look at a rebuilt 455 tommorow, and would like some
>input. I am not the smartest Oldsmobile individual by any stretch. The
>young man selling the motor and car is not familiar with Oldsmobiles.
>The car was giving to this individual due to a payment owed him. The 455
>has the J heads, is bored .30 and is running aftermarket Holley carb and
>aftermarket intake. The rear is posi but he is not sure if 3:23 or what.
>The motor is sitting in a 1979 Cutlass, it also has a rebuilt tranny and
>B@M shifter. Is the J heads a good set to have? He is asking and will
>not take any less than $500.00

The intake, carb and shifter are worth almost $500.

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:02:31 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: 350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds

Do the 350 Diesel's use exhaust manifolds that will bolt up to the gas
engines? And since they run true dual exhaust (I think) HOW do they run it?
Are the maifolds single outlet on both sides? Thanks, Dorian

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:02:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Welsh <dlwels@yahoo.com>
Subject: New cam bearings?

 

We are now in the process of upgrading our '69 350 rocket.  We are
adding an Edelbrock Performer intake and cam along with new timing
gears and chain.

Question: When do you need to replace cam bearings?  We weren't
planning on removing the crankshaft or the rods.  Are we safe to use
the old cam bearings.  They look a little rough, not really pitted.

Please send responses by direct e-mail since I am on the digest and
need an answer soon.

TIA


==
Dave Welsh  dlwels@yahoo.com
1553 Read Road
Janesville, Wisconsin 53546
(608) 756-4352

'70 Cutlass S "on the way"
'69 Cutlass "soon to be parts car" Supreme
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:26:07 EDT
From: <MrExMt@aol.com>
Subject: WANTED: Radiator top plate

Hi to all on list,
I need a 4 core radiator top plate for a '70. Please e-mail me with cost &
condition. Thank you!
Leigh Tenenholtz
mrexmt@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:33:00 -0700
From: "Chuck Cole" <coleboys@fbo.com>
Subject: Hello!  I am an Olds fanatic!

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fluid)...SSII wheels, Black with red interior... paint and upholstery =
new...  not "restored" in the classic sense, but a very nice looking and =
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:26:31 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: New cam bearings?

I used to build a lot of racing engines, and when I replaced one bearing I
replaced them all the cam bearings are cheap and shouldnt cost too much too
put in also if you are unsure of the crank bearings  you should probably
replace them too its really your call if they still have babbit on them that
is the silver surface and not showing copper
and your not doing the other bearings dont worry about them...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dave Welsh <dlwels@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 5:09 PM
Subject: New cam bearings?








We are now in the process of upgrading our '69 350 rocket.  We are
adding an Edelbrock Performer intake and cam along with new timing
gears and chain.

Question: When do you need to replace cam bearings?  We weren't
planning on removing the crankshaft or the rods.  Are we safe to use
the old cam bearings.  They look a little rough, not really pitted.

Please send responses by direct e-mail since I am on the digest and
need an answer soon.

TIA


==
Dave Welsh  dlwels@yahoo.com
1553 Read Road
Janesville, Wisconsin 53546
(608) 756-4352

'70 Cutlass S "on the way"
'69 Cutlass "soon to be parts car" Supreme
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:50:43 -0400
From: Jonathan Parke <jonparke@together.net>
Subject: Re: hey mr. auto-math man ...!

Eric here's a formula for you.

RPM = (MPH x Rear Gear x 336 x Transmission Gear) / (Tire Diameter)

Overdrive in your TH200 is 0.674.  I don't have a clue what the diameter of
your tire is so take a tape measure and measure across (not up up and down
if it's on the car because the weight will deform the tire slightly).  Take
those numbers and plug 'em in the formula above.

Other specs for you transmission can be found at
http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/oftrn.htm#TRAN  then select "Auto Transmission
Comparison"

EXAMPLE #1:

If:  MPH = 65
If:  Rear Gear = 3.42
If:  Transmission Gear = 1 (Drive Gear)
If:  Tire Diameter = 24.75"

Then:  RPM = 3017.890909 = 3018

EXAMPLE #2:

If:  MPH = 55
If:  Rear Gear = 3.42
If:  Transmission Gear = 1 (Drive Gear)
If:  Tire Diameter = 24.75"

Then:  RPM = 2553.6 = 2554

If you want to figure the MPH given a certain RPM use the following:

MPH = (RPM x Tire Diameter) / (Rear Gear Ratio x 336 x Transmission Gear 
Ratio)

If you have a spreadsheet program like Excel you can plot the range of RPMs
and MPHs for any combination you want.  In fact, you could go berserk and
spend all sorts of time on this, but then maybe you're not crazy like me.

A qualifier:

Remember these are formulas, not real life.  Torque converter slip age and
other little factors figure into the final answer.  However,  the above
will get you real close.

If math is not your thing drop me a line and I'll walk you through it.

jp

Jonathan Parke
mailto:jonparke@together.net
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible



>I have 2.56 gears in my  '88 w/200-r4 riding on pirelli
>235/40-17's  supersport   p7000's
>
>currently, at 2000rpm I'm doin' 60mph in overdrive
>[according to the newly transplanted rally guages]
>
>when I go to 3.73's w/same ovrdrv 200-r4 what rpm will i need to run that
>same 60mph  ???
>
>
>erik

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 00:48:16 +0000
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: BACK FROM ROAD TRIP

Hello everyone.  I just got back from a very long road trip. The Cutlass ran
great most of the way. Got 25.7 mpg avg.  1qt of oil evry 1200 miles(oh
well).  We drove from San Antonio to Mississippi, 640 miles Visited with my
parents. The drove to Clarksville, Tn. another 600 miles. Visited daughter,
son-inlaw and NEW GRANDDAUGHTER (21july98), Then drove to Ohio and visited
with my sister another 500 miles or so. Then retraced my tracks back the
same way. Now for the not so good time of the trip.  Water pump went out in
Clarksville and had to replace it in the hot sun (no shade in parking lot).
Lots of fun :(.  Found a good price there so that wasnt bad.

Did see a couple nice rockets in the Clarksville/Hopkinsville area.  One
73-75 white Olds with gold and black stripes, didnt stop and look at it
close.  Saw a 78 Cutlass that was still in the works that looks good also.
Also saw a lot of other nice cars
along the 41A highway there. Also seen a few nice cars on the highway along
the trip.

Had a great time making the road trip in a Rocket.
Clarence
86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
San Antonio

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:06:12 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: In search of...

No, it's not Leonard Nimoy...

I've got a fellow OCA member who has been emailing me about trying to
find his Dad's 67 442 convertible.  We have the name of the last owner
in Pennsylvania, but that was in 1978.  We have reason to believe that
the car went to Jersey after that time.  Isn't there a site on the net
where you can go and have them run a VIN to find out who the car is
registered to.  I remember a fee being charged for this.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:09:11 -0700
From: "Chuck Cole" <coleboys@fbo.com>
Subject: Re: Hello!  I am an Olds fanatic!

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sounds like a great car...would ask $5K or more though for a nice one...
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck Cole <coleboys@fbo.com>
    To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
    Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 5:43 PM
    Subject: Hello! I am an Olds fanatic!
   =20
   =20
    I have a 1967 Cutlass Supreme 442 (Replica) with HP455, TH 400, =
Hurst dualgate, factory dual exhausts, new brake system (silicone =
fluid)...SSII wheels, Black with red interior... paint and upholstery =
new...  not "restored" in the classic sense, but a very nice looking and =
running car..If it needed fixing it was  done...all by me.   (455 is =
stock bore with 10.25:1 pistons)  Was in a 69 Toronado...engine ID says =
400hp.  Will sell only to another Olds fanatic who'll take care of it =
and not abuse it or race it.   I would like $4400.00 which just covers =
my receipts

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sense, but a=20
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pistons)&nbsp;=20
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:10:55 EDT
From: <A442OLDS@aol.com>
Subject: 4 speed wanted

Just had a TH400 go bad in my 70 442. I'm considering changing it over to a 4
speed.  Does anyone have a parts car or the required parts to change it over.
If so, please send me a price and I will get back to you.

Thanks,

Larry

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:22:24 -0500
From: JC Fredenburg <drolds@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Heads

Eldelbrock has aluminum heads that will work.....one catch , you have to
use the #7111 Preformer RPM Intake because the heads are intended for use
on a 455, your compression will aslo drop a few points depending on your
pistons.
I have "C" casting heads on my 350 along with the RPM intake, the cars runs
13.XX's all day long and is not too far from stock. I did it as a cheaper
alteritive to having my "5" castings ported, and have no regrets.
hope this helps!
Best of luck !
JC

At 07:44 PM 7/26/98 -0400, you wrote:
>	I was wondering if anyone knows where I might find a set of aluminum 
heads
>for a Olds 350. They can be new or used. A cheap price would be nice but I
>not expecting one.
>
>
>Roger Nienberg
>Glandorf, OH
>69' Cutlass S Convertible
>90' Camaro RS
>

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:58:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: W31 exhaust manifolds

On Sat, 25 Jul 1998 DROLDS350@aol.com wrote:

> I have what are believed to be 70 W31 ehaust manifolds. I am not sure if they
> are or not, I got them with the car when I bought it. Is there any way to 
tell
> what they are? The have a four and a one on them. Can somebody please tell me
> if these are the correct manifolds?

This is hearsay, since I don't have documentation, but I had always heard
that W-31 x-mans are identical to other 350 x-mans.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:03:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Cowl Tags

Not on the list; reply to GKemper248@aol.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	<GKemper248@aol.com>
Subject: cowl tags

I am considering buying a supposed 65' 442 convertible. Owner has no
documentation. The car seems original. What I want to know is, If there is any
info on the cowl tag that will help me determine if it had the 442 option?
Thanks in advance.       Glenn Kemper

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:07:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: 350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds

On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 DYeager535@aol.com wrote:

> Do the 350 Diesel's use exhaust manifolds that will bolt up to the gas
> engines? And since they run true dual exhaust (I think) HOW do they run it?
> Are the maifolds single outlet on both sides? Thanks, Dorian

Again, hearsay, but I understand that they are identical to other 350
manifolds and use a blockoff plate on the crossover inlet on the right
side.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:26:55 -0400
From: "Roger Nienberg" <s002rwn@discover.wright.edu>
Subject: Re: Olds Heads

I called Jegs catalog to ask them about the Eldelbrock heads and they said
they work but they must be machined to make the ports match up right,  Is
this true or did I get a ignorant salesperson?


Roger Nienberg
69' Cutlass S Convertible
90' Camaro RS

Eldelbrock has aluminum heads that will work.....one catch , you have to
use the #7111 Preformer RPM Intake because the heads are intended for use
on a 455, your compression will aslo drop a few points depending on your
pistons.
I have "C" casting heads on my 350 along with the RPM intake, the cars runs
13.XX's all day long and is not too far from stock. I did it as a cheaper
alteritive to having my "5" castings ported, and have no regrets.
hope this helps!

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:50:52 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 4 speed wanted

A442OLDS@aol.com wrote:

> Just had a TH400 go bad in my 70 442. I'm considering changing it over to a 4
> speed.  Does anyone have a parts car or the required parts to change it over.
> If so, please send me a price and I will get back to you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry

 Larry,
One thing to keep in mind regarding an automatic to manual trans conversion is
that the crank will need to be machined to accept the M/T input shaft and pilot
bearing.  This cannot accurately be done in car. You will need to remove the
crank and send it to a machine shop.  Another option is our A/T to M/T pilot
bearing adapter.  Which allows for an in car conversion.

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:00:30 -0700
From: "THOM MARTIN" <tmartin@empnet.com>
Subject: hood ornament

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:01:03 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds

In a message dated 98-07-26 21:28:33 EDT, you write:

<< > Do the 350 Diesel's use exhaust manifolds that will bolt up to the gas
 > engines? And since they run true dual exhaust (I think) HOW do they run it?
 > Are the maifolds single outlet on both sides? Thanks, Dorian

 Again, hearsay, but I understand that they are identical to other 350
 manifolds and use a blockoff plate on the crossover inlet on the right
 side.   >>

     I hope so, make good manifolds for my 403 with true duals! Thanks Greg.

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:01:50 -0500
From: "patrick derkacz" <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Subject: DMR event-455 tuning

I am getting the '69 442 conv. ready for the DMR event in august at Norwalk
and being the novice that I am I need some advice on setting this thing up.

First, I have a Holley 750 DP that is running very rich.  Can someone please
give a step by step of setting this correctly?

Also,   I just set the timing, after replacing the cam, so it has about 10
degrees initial(at idle w/o vacuum advance hooked up) and about 35 under
load(about 4000 rpm w/ vacuum advance hooked up-HEI).  Is this right?
Again, any suggestions would be appreciated.

How do you know if your distributor is curved right?  Do you change it by
changing the springs in the distributor?  How can you tell if you need
heavier or lighter springs?

I appreciate all reponses because I know I don't jack and it would probably
take me years to figure out what the list members can  tell me overnight.

Before the race what should I go through?  Should I replace and gap the
plugs? .045 right?  I just changed the oil and topped off the trans fluid
and plan on checking the rear end fluid.  Am I missing anything?

I hope my damn e-mail is working because I will be pissed if I miss any
responses.(its been snafu since last week and my ISP now has voice mail for
tech support, you leave a message and they are supposed to call you back, I
called friday and no call back yet, they are about to lose a customer, so I
suppose I may not even know if this goes out)
>
>patrickd@wwnet.com
>
>

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:12:11 -0700
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Switching to digest...

Well, after being subscribed to the real-time list since a few months
after it's creation, I'm switching to digest mode.

I'll be spending the next few weeks moving (only a few blocks, but
computer will likely not be up), so I'm not sure when I'll be able to
answer personal e-mail.

Happy Oldsmobiling!

P.S.  75-80 mph through the desert at 105 degrees with the A/C on for
three hours (on the way to a concert at George, Washington), and the '84
H/O ran at a top temp of 200 degrees, usually around 190-195.  Not a
hiccup.  Man I love Oldsmobiles (and my 180 degree high-flow t-stat
too)!

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:31:11 -0500
From: JC Fredenburg <drolds@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Heads

Yes, you have to have the INTAKE machined, not the heads , It is a very
straight foward thing....what you are basically doing is port matching the
350 manifold to the 455 gaskets.

At 09:26 PM 7/26/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I called Jegs catalog to ask them about the Eldelbrock heads and they said
>they work but they must be machined to make the ports match up right,  Is
>this true or did I get a ignorant salesperson?
>
>
>Roger Nienberg
>69' Cutlass S Convertible
>90' Camaro RS
>
>Eldelbrock has aluminum heads that will work.....one catch , you have to
>use the #7111 Preformer RPM Intake because the heads are intended for use
>on a 455, your compression will aslo drop a few points depending on your
>pistons.
>I have "C" casting heads on my 350 along with the RPM intake, the cars runs
>13.XX's all day long and is not too far from stock. I did it as a cheaper
>alteritive to having my "5" castings ported, and have no regrets.
>hope this helps!
>
>

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:40:19 -0400
From: "Roger Nienberg" <s002rwn@discover.wright.edu>
Subject: Re: Olds Heads

Thanks for your input.

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:42:58 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: 350 Diesel Exhaust Manifolds

At 08:02 PM 7/26/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Do the 350 Diesel's use exhaust manifolds that will bolt up to the gas
>engines? And since they run true dual exhaust (I think) HOW do they run it?
>Are the maifolds single outlet on both sides?

They used a a block off just like the rest of Olds small block manifolds.
Chevy/GMC truck dealers used to carry the the block-ff piece but i think it
has been
discontined.

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:43:06 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 65 Posi 4 Sale

Robert Handren wrote:

> Contrary to another post the "O" didn't come out
> until 67 and not immediately. My 67 came with a "P". "B" was for the
> non-performance applications. Smaller pinion gear stem diamater. Otherwise a
> lot of "B" and "P" parts interchange.
> Bob Handren

 Robert,
The O axle was introduced in late 1966 and was installed in most 1967
performance axle applications (3.42 thru 5.00). Although 66 and 67 W-30's
received the special cone style P axle with the four pinions.  The GM parts
books will verify my previous statement.  We also sell alot of our O axle
overhaul kits and Anti-Spin clutch kits for 67 applications with their original
differentials.  Although your 67 may not have been equiped with an O axle, most
were.

- --
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:02:56 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 455 motor

The "J" heads were the WORST flowing Olds heads for the big block. "J"
stand for JUNK. Don't get it... It's probably a butchered motor.
Pettrix@prodigy.net

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> From: Tom Williams <tjwilli@megavision.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 455 motor
> Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 6:09 PM
>
> HI All,
>    I am going to look at a rebuilt 455 tommorow, and would like some
> input. I am not the smartest Oldsmobile individual by any stretch. The
> young man selling the motor and car is not familiar with Oldsmobiles.
> The car was giving to this individual due to a payment owed him. The 455
> has the J heads, is bored .30 and is running aftermarket Holley carb and
> aftermarket intake. The rear is posi but he is not sure if 3:23 or what.
> The motor is sitting in a 1979 Cutlass, it also has a rebuilt tranny and
> B@M shifter. Is the J heads a good set to have? He is asking and will
> not take any less than $500.00
> Thanks in Advance for any responses to my questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
> Than

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:30:03 EDT
From: <AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Proportioning valve

In a message dated 98-07-26 16:52:31 EDT, you write:

<< So, are you saying that this is the valve that my '72 Cutlass Supreme
 convertible with power disc brakes (without outside air induction) would
 use?  I'll be converting mine over to discs soon and will be needing a
 new proportioning valve.  My current one has been exposed to the
 atmosphere since removing if from a parts car sometime around '91.  I'm
 sure it isn't usable anymore.  I didn't think they were available as new
 parts anymore. >>
master power also makes them out of brass

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