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oldsmobile-digest        Sunday, July 12 1998        Volume 01 : Number 1362



Re: How many were made???
Re: Dumb-ass/no such thing as a 442 after 1972
Re: Dog Hall of Fame (incl non-GM)
Who's Who at Nats
Wiring/ 86 Salon
Re: Running hot!!!
Fond: F 85
Re: Running hot!!!
Need a 350!!!!!
[Fwd: Need a 350!!!!!]
hi
Olds Lansing Video Info.
Ever heard of the "CUT" function dummy?  USE IT!
Re: Finally got some pictures up
New Addition
Re: 1995 Cutlass (3.4 V-6)
Re: Running hot!!!
Re: Clayton's Dilemma
Re: My "problems"
Re: Finally got some pictures up
Who's Who at Nats
Re: diode needed
Re: Big 88 V6
Re: Big 88 V6
Re: need another Olds
Re: Dog Hall of Fame (incl non-GM)
am i the only one?
Identifying '70 and '71 Ram Air Hoods
Re: Finally got some pictures up
Re: Dog Hall of Fame (incl non-GM)
Re: Fwd: Back from road trip
77 cullass parts
WANTED:  69 CUTLASS CONVERTABLE FRAME
Re: Back from road trip
Re: New Addition
OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI
Re: Fwd: Back from road trip
Re: Fwd: Back from road trip
Re: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI
Re: Back from road trip
Re: Poor drivers
Re: Identifying '70 and '71 Ram Air Hoods
"72 Cutlass S Convrt. Rear End
Re: Fwd: Back from road trip
Re: am i the only one?
Re: Back from road trip
Re: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI
Re: Fwd: Back from road trip
Re: Back from road trip
Anybody need 76-77 parts
Re: "72 Cutlass S Convrt. Rear End
Tranny lines + kick down
found today in Cincinnati
Harmonic Balancer, 455
Our very own screen saver
Re: Hello! :)
RE: am I the only one?
Re: am i the only one?
350 questions

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:09:13 EDT
From: <GraphixRUs@aol.com>
Subject: Re: How many were made???

Did you ever get my e-mail  about doing a license plate for you ?
Roger Utter

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:11:52 EDT
From: <SxyIrshman@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Dumb-ass/no such thing as a 442 after 1972

hey buddy...i have a 73 442 with a 350...and even though it's no bad ass...it
came with a muncie 4 on the floor and a posi rear end....now that i have
it...it'll dust off alot of this newer (and older) crap on the road....learn
some respect....
mike 73 442	

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:15:06 -0400
From: "Daniel S. Jones" <dclover@epix.net>
Subject: Re: Dog Hall of Fame (incl non-GM)

Had one of  those too & it wasn't a whole lot better with the six!!
And don't expect much crash protection.
Dan J

Fred Orcutt wrote:

> The '78 Ford Fairmont 4-dr station wagon, with factory A/C and Pinto 4
>
> cylinder engine.  Trying to merge onto an interstate hwy was to risk
> death.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:19:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: Who's Who at Nats

The entries seem to be slowing down -- Brent was the last one to email me
a coupla days ago.  Out of our entire list, are these guys really the only
ones going??
Calling all Nats attendees:  Get me your name and other info so I can add
you and you can find each other up there!  peg@grove.ufl.edu

Name            Dates           Hotel           Car(s)
- --------------------------------------------------------
Mark Prince     7/17-7/18       none yet        72 442 W-30
Mark Cornea     7/17-7/18       none yet        70 442 W-30
Bryce Smith     7/14-7/19       Crowne Plaza    none
Chris Casteel   7/17            Comfort Inn     none
Brent Ardo	7/16-7/19	Holiday Inn	72 CS conv.
Chris Smetana	7/15-7/18	Days Inn	69 S W-31
Jim McKeague	7/15-7/18	Crowne Plaza	70 W-31 &
						70 Rallye 350
Everett Horton	7/14-7/19	Campground	61 Starfire
Kurt & Rose	7/15-7/17	Holiday Inn	90 Trofeo
Leigh Tenenholtz7/15-7/19	Crowne Plaza	68 CS conv.
Ken Brooks	7/15-7/18	Crowne Plaza	69 Hurst
Jeff		7/15-7/17	hotel-hopping	none
Jack Bazur	7/16-7/18			none
Dan Williams	7/16-7/19	Holiday Inn	68 442 conv.
Bill Reilly	7/16-7/19	Crowne Plaza	83 Cutlass Ciera
Karl Aune	7/16-7/17	unknown		Soylent Ocean Mist
Brent Fields	7/15-7/17	Comfort Suites	none

Depending on how many people add themselves, I'll update once or twice a
day so you can grab the latest list right before you all leave, whenever
that may be.

8)
peg

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:20:14 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Wiring/ 86 Salon

     How about a couple questions about wiring? : ) Are the Back up light
switch, and the neutral safety switch integral on this car? Haynes isn't clear
on this. How about the colors of the wires for the seperate switches? I
BELIEVE the Dk Blue and Green wires are the Back up switch wires? Also, since
the car WAS a 4 spd, and is now a 3 spd, should the neutral safety switch
work, or are the contacts in slightly dofferent positions? I wouldn't mind
having it work right, but as long as it starts I don't really care(I'll jumper
it if they aren't the same). I am asking this because I have NO power to the
cab. I will take the column loose and test voltage at the ignition switch
sometime this week (I hope) The starter will crank the engine over if I jumper
it, so I doubt that's the problem. Anyone else have any ideas?
     I also saw in the Alldata page, that there was a problem with the
connector that is inline in the antenna wire. I seem to get bad reception
compared to my pioneer Supertuner in another vehicle. Are the Delco radios
this vintage that bad, or is it the connector?   Dorian

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:23:28 EDT
From: <Socalolds@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Running hot!!!

First of all get rid of the 160 thermostat and install what is recommended a
195 degree thermostat. That way the water stays in the radiator longer to cool
off. Olds engines are more efficient and run better with the recommended
thermostat.
Good luck

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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:37:19 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fond: F 85

heyall,i fond a 65,65(maybe?)F 85 (i think thats right,im not to good
with that F 85 stuff ) in my town to day ,good parts car or fixer uper,i
think the rockit has ben pulled from it ,i stopt to look at it but it
was geting dark ,so if anybody needs ,wants info ill be more than happy
to go look at it for you .

Thanks
      Ryan.

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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:59:31 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Running hot!!!

additionally the water aka: coolant stays in the block and heads longer to
absorb more heat also try using a higher rated cap ie. an 18 instead of a 15
lb as pressure increases the boiling temp also keep in mind that the gauge
reads coolant temp not cylinder head temp so it is generally a good thing to
read higher on the coolant temp as long as the thing isnt boiling over or
going dry also try a coolant catch bottle
because as the coolant expands it will be forced into the bottle and as in
cools it will contract thus pulling the coolant back into the system
so this is just something to consider...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Socalolds@aol.com <Socalolds@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Running hot!!!


>First of all get rid of the 160 thermostat and install what is recommended
a
>195 degree thermostat. That way the water stays in the radiator longer to
cool
>off. Olds engines are more efficient and run better with the recommended
>thermostat.
>Good luck

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:07:15 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: Need a 350!!!!!

Help me please!  My 71 cut slipped a rod and the engine locked up.
The engine was rebuilt 10,000 miles ago, new cam and lifter, new timing
gears and chains, new rocker arms, all gasket's replace, new battery new
alternator, new voltage regulator.  The oil was changed two days before
it loc ked up.  What could be the problem?  Is there any way to salvage
the engine?  The mechanic said it would cost me $3,300 to get a new one!
I thought that was ridiculous does anyone have a 350 for sale?
Thank you in advance
scott

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:08:42 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Need a 350!!!!!]

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>
> Help me please!  My 71 cut slipped a rod and the engine locked up.
> The engine was rebuilt 10,000 miles ago, new cam and lifter, new timing
> gears and chains, new rocker arms, all gasket's replace, new battery new
> alternator, new voltage regulator.  The oil was changed two days before
> it loc ked up.  What could be the problem?  Is there any way to salvage
> the engine?  The mechanic said it would cost me $3,300 to get a new one!
> I thought that was ridiculous does anyone have a 350 for sale?
> Thank you in advance
> scott

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Help me please!  My 71 cut slipped a rod and the engine locked up.
The engine was rebuilt 10,000 miles ago, new cam and lifter, new timing
gears and chains, new rocker arms, all gasket's replace, new battery new
alternator, new voltage regulator.  The oil was changed two days before
it loc ked up.  What could be the problem?  Is there any way to salvage
the engine?  The mechanic said it would cost me $3,300 to get a new one!
I thought that was ridiculous does anyone have a 350 for sale?
Thank you in advance
scott

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:26:15 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: hi

hello

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 00:48:42 -0500
From: Doug Newman <newmand@WCBI.com>
Subject: Olds Lansing Video Info.

		Hi folks,
		             Apologies to the digest members and the
"old(s) hands" on the list who have seen this once a month for the past
few months.  Re-posting for the influx of new list members.  If you've
already ordered, thanks again.

		             I've worked in television for a little over
ten years, and produced my fair share of weddings, fraternity rush
videos, and high school graduation videos.  During the Olds Centennial
last August, some of the list members took their cameras, and shot a
load of video of all the beautiful cars on display.  Since I didn't get
to attend, I volunteered to dub their raw video and edit it together
into an Olds e-mail list video scrapbook.  Tape was mastered on DVC,
(Digital Video Cassette) so you don't experience the video generation
loss like you do when dubbing VHS to VHS.  This is not a tape of
corporate self-praise,  and I'm not affiliated with Olds, GM, or any
other group that produced tapes.  This is strictly a car video for car
guys and ladies.  There's no narration:  every shot is edited to music.
It contains 16 songs, including Kathy Mattea's "455 Rocket" and Jackie
Brenston and the Delta Cats' "Rocket 88".  Total running time is
1:01:55.  You'll see some cars owned by list members, as well as a few
list members themselves.  (Greg Beaulieu, Bryce Smith, Jim Chermack,
plus Helen Earley and James Walkinshaw, co-authors of "Setting the
Pace".  Plus numerous shots of Linda Vaughn, Miss Hurst Golden Shifter.)
Cost is $20.00 U.S.  This includes postage.  If you do decide to order,
please include your e-mail address with your order so I can contact you
when I ship your video.  (All orders go out the day payment is received,
except Saturday.)  Snail-mail address follows, and I look forward to
hearing from anyone interested.  If you have any questions, please
e-mail me privately to keep list traffic down.  Thanks for your time.

		Doug Newman        OCA # 30311
		22 Ridge Road
		Columbus, MS   39701

		1987 442

		newmand@wcbi.com

		http://www.442.com/newman.html
		http://www.442.com/newmantape.html

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:51:04 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Ever heard of the "CUT" function dummy?  USE IT!

Oh, come on man!  It's guys like dan that create the bulk of this damn
"bandwidth" problem.  He needlessly replys with the following;

>>Enough is enough already......all this junk is definitely a waste of
bandwidth.>>


He must have bumped his head, because he then proceeds to include over 48,
count them 48, lines from  previous messages!!!  Why?  Step back and look at
your actions.

Why can't some people of this fine list learn to trim their posts!?!?
PLEASE!   Practice what you preach dan.  "Cut" out unnessesary text whenever
replying to a post!  Christ, I've been on this list for over a year now and
it seems many just don't understand or care.......TRIM THE FAT WHEN REPLYING
TO POSTS!

{I now return you to our regularly scheduled Olds list}
=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:59:35 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

{RC uses the "cut" function and deletes allot of unneeded text}


Nice looking car you have there Steve!  How come you don't leave the dual CB
antennas on?   8>)

Looks like you did a fine job restoring your 4-4-2.  Thanks for sharing it
with us.  I love to see original paperwork that came with cars.

=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:52:28 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: New Addition

Well I revised my Oldsmobile 'family' again today.  After (prudently)
ignoring my sister's mention that there was an Oldsmobile convertible in
her apt. complex for sale for the last 2 mos. I finally asked for further
details.  After a very round about group of explanations of the car, today
we made the 2 hr trip to the desert to look the car over and see if it had
any potential.  After all he was asking $675 and around here, thats
normally bone yard material.

What I found (and bought) is a '72 Cutlass Supreme convertible, major
living dings and indents in 1 fender, door and quarter panel, all easily
repairable, faded paint.  108,000 on a 350 that once we uncrossed and re
hooked up the vac lines properly, ran good.  Trans has dirty looking oil
and apparently doesn't shift right (guessing a new filter and fluid will do
wonders on this).  Good interior and top mechanism that works, needs a new
top.  Bucket seat, column shift auto, non-console car (funny looking).  New
radiator, battery, alternator and related wiring.  Decent tires.

We haven't seen a deal like this around here in years.  Truthfully, it
seems everyone who has a convertible to sell thinks they have the crown
jewels.  I didn't pay him the full price either.   I'm glad I finally gave
in & paid attention to my sisters comments on this car~!

Started out in Oldsmobile with a '67 C/S convertible, kind of a nice idea
to be back to another one, same dang blue even.......



Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible,  '72
Vista Cruiser, '80 GMC 1/2 ton (the youngster)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:07:21 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 1995 Cutlass (3.4 V-6)

Well I have an 1994 Cutlass with the 3.4L engine. I have 50800miles on it.
The only problem I had that was motor related is the alternator went bad. I
had a friend who is a mechanic replace it(DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME) and it
took us about 3 hours to do it. The engine bays are VERY tight and I heard
that the inner timing belt which controls all 4 cams needs to be replaced
at 60,000miles. This is not a do-it-yourself home project(well most new car
repairs are not) and can cost up to $1000.00.
 I never had any other problems, never was stranded, always was reliable.


- ----------
> From: flynt myrick <f_myrick@hotmail.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 1995 Cutlass (3.4 V-6)
> Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 4:15 PM
>
>   Do any list members have any experience with the 3.4 L V-6 engine.  I
> am thinking about buying a 1995 Cutlass convertible with this engine.  I
> don't know much about it except GM last put it in the 1997's(I think).
> Is it a good engine? Any ideas?
>
> Flynt Myrick
> f_myrick@hotmail.com
> http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:16:50 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Running hot!!!

My buddy has a 70 Cutlass and it has a 455 with a 4 core radiator. He runs
about 170 moving and about 180 to maybe 195 on a real hot day stuck in
traffic. I was looking to run what he runs. Not to mention that with hotter
engine temperatures the oil thins out and your oil pressure will get lower.

- ----------
> From: Stephen Hoover <shang@wans.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Running hot!!!
> Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 1:20 AM
>
> Peter Landowski wrote:
> >
> > I just recently installed a 455 into a 72 Olds 442. The car has the 3
core
> > radiator, 160 thermostat, 9/12 compression.The car will run in the 190
- -
> > 210 degree range. It will climb a little over 210 if stuck in traffic.
> > Should I step up to a 4 core radiator. I heard 4 cores  have a 25%
better
> > cooling efficeincy.
> >  Where is a good place to buy a realiable radiator? (without costing an
arm
> > and a leg)
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
> I am not sure what temperature you are wanting, but this is not really
> "running hot". An engine needs to run at least 190 to achieve proper
> ignition and most engines run around 200 anyways. Others may disagree
> but I consider anything up to 220 to be normal. Stepping up to a 4 core
> may allow the engine to run somewhat cooler under normal driving
> conditions, but in my experience, it will not help any in traffic. Bud's
> radiator here in Dallas (Pleasant Grove) carries 4-core A body radiators
> for $209 and I believe they ship.
>
>
> Stephen Hoover
> Dallas, Texas
> '70 Supreme

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:51:37 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Clayton's Dilemma

JCRASH7@aol.com wrote:
>
> you said you were considering an 84 delta?  it will be the nicest car you'll
> ever have (if it has AC, otherwise it's an oven, especially on road trips).
> if you find one with a good interior, try to find power seats.  i'm trying to
> get at least a driver's side one for mine.

I'll throw in my $.02 here.
I had an '82 DRB (gave it away when I got the 442).  It had power
everything, except the engine.  There were two things going for the car:
1) Very roomy and comfortable for trips.
2) Extremely smooth over bumps.
There was a railroad crossing I had to go over to get to my old job that
was in terrible shape.  Everybody took that crossing at 10-15mph (or
they'd loose their oilpan).  I'd take it at 40mph  and hardly feel it.
This is not an exageration!  The car had the ride of a land yacht!  Of
course, it handled like on too :(

BTW, does anybody know when 8-track players were last available from
Olds?  The '82 DRB had a factory AM/FM 8-track unit.

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
OCA# 30442

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:13:48 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: My "problems"

Collyn says:

>after having driven the car, I noticed that when the car is at full
operating
>temp.(approx. 200*) I hear what seems to be "ratteling"/"knocking" when
>accelerating.

First thought would be timing, but...

> I am positive that the timing is correct, as I recently(as in 2
>years and 60 miles ago) gave her(Norma Jean) a very exstensive tune-up.

Better recheck timing again, 'cuz the alternatives aren't pretty. Low octane
shouldn't give you trouble unless the compression ratio is above 10:1. Maybe
throw some octane booster in there just to be sure. My experience says
noises from the block are either:

a) Advanced timing
b) Octane related ping
c) Bearings
d) Carbon in combustion chamber. Likely to cause run-on after turning off
the engine, too.

<snip>
> I would like to
>make the car as fearsome as possible, with streetability being a minor
>concern.

I envy that situation. I'm sure the list can advise you how to make a 400
into a Street King.

drc

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:08:18 -0600 (MDT)
From: Steve Utick <sutick@mt.net>
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, RC Hellebuyck wrote:

> {RC uses the "cut" function and deletes allot of unneeded text}
>
>
> Nice looking car you have there Steve!  How come you don't leave the dual CB
> antennas on?   8>)

Well, it was tempting....  But....  You know...

> Looks like you did a fine job restoring your 4-4-2.  Thanks for sharing it
> with us.  I love to see original paperwork that came with cars.

Yea, with the help of everyone on the list, I found the build sheet here a
couple of weeks ago inside the back of the passengers side seat.  I'd been
looking for it in the past, but never thought to look there until I got on
this list.  The car still needs a bunch of work, but after building my
house, money is kind of tight.  It doesn't look to bad for now though.
Thanks for the compliments.

- -------------------------
Steve Utick
From the Heart of MONTANA
sutick@mt.net
http://www.mt.net/~sutick
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:25:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: Who's Who at Nats

Tom Williams sent some names of people who will be driving to Nats from
Nebraska, although they are not listies.  Maybe we can convince them to
s*bscr*be, eh?  :)

Name            Dates           Hotel           Car(s)
- --------------------------------------------------------
Mark Prince     7/17-7/18       none yet        72 442 W-30
Mark Cornea     7/17-7/18       none yet        70 442 W-30
Bryce Smith     7/14-7/19       Crowne Plaza    none
Chris Casteel   7/17            Comfort Inn     none
Brent Ardo	7/16-7/19	Holiday Inn	72 CS conv.
Chris Smetana	7/15-7/18	Days Inn	69 S W-31
Jim McKeague	7/15-7/18	Crowne Plaza	70 W-31 &
						70 Rallye 350
Everett Horton	7/14-7/19	Campground	61 Starfire
Kurt & Rose	7/15-7/17	Holiday Inn	90 Trofeo
Leigh Tenenholtz7/15-7/19	Crowne Plaza	68 CS conv.
Ken Brooks	7/15-7/18	Crowne Plaza	69 Hurst
Jeff		7/15-7/17	hotel-hopping	none
Jack Bazur	7/16-7/18			none
Dan Williams	7/16-7/19	Holiday Inn	68 442 conv.
Bill Reilly	7/16-7/19	Crowne Plaza	83 Cutlass Ciera
Karl Aune	7/16-7/17	unknown		Soylent Ocean Mist
Brent Fields	7/15-7/17	Comfort Suites	none
Preston Oder 	7/15-7/19      Holiday Inn	70 442
Kelly Logan  	7/15-7/19      Holiday Inn	71 CS Conv.
Tom Williams 	7/15-7/19      Holiday Inn	70 CS SX

Three more days to go.  Sounds like everyone's agreed on meeting at
Everett Horton's swap space, although no time is set up yet.  I'll see if
I can dig out my schedule later and suggest some times.

8)
peg

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:40:07 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: diode needed

>Tech america  800-877-0072 has diodes in axial cases from 50 v @ 6 amps:

>you can parallel two of  these to get 12 amps  @ 25 volts.

That would be 12 A @ 50 v. Voltage rating doesn't change when paralleling
diodes, as long as both are the same.

>Or go for
>the dual diode config in a transistor style case for 50v @ 16
>amps---plus you can heat sink it if you need to.

Kind of delicate for automotive applications. Small leads, soldering,
heatshrink, etc.

> Or call Newark
>Electronics (800-4-NEWARK), or Allied (800-433-5700)

Good sources if you know a part number. Got a Motorola catalog?

>or a local decent
>electronics store--not radio shack--should be able to help you.
>


Actually, Radio Shack p/n 276-1185 would be fine (I think that's a "current"
part no. - heh heh). It's a 25 amp bridge rectifier. There's 4 diodes in it,
you only need to use 1 of them. Mounts with a #10 screw, has an insulated
case, has 1/4 inch quick-connect terminals. And if one section ever burns
out, there's 3 more as spares.

drc

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:43:25 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Big 88 V6

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bussell <photographer@trader.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 1:35 PM
Subject: Big 88 V6


>I have an 82 Delta 88 with a V6.
> I just broke the
>90 degree plastic elbow that connects the valve cover to the air
>cleaner.  Will I have trouble finding a replacement?
>
>Bill Bussell


I have seen them at Pep Boys - I think it's a pretty standard item.

drc

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:43:13 -0500
From: Bill Bussell <photographer@trader.com>
Subject: Re: Big 88 V6

I asked about finding a plastic elbow too quickly. I located the part
with a trip to my friendly Autozone store. I too find myself buying many
parts at Autozone.  My last big purchase was a new three core radiator
for my 87 Custom Cruiser at a cost of $108. I replaced this in the
parking lot of my employer located 55 miles from home.  Some home owners
near the office wanted to send me to the environmental police.

The performance of the V6 in the 82 Delta 88 is nothing great, but it
gets you there.  My dad bought the Delta new with a price of about
$10,000.  I have toyed with the idea of an engine swap.  I need to
determine if the transmission is compatible with a V8.

Bill Bussell
Speedway, Indiana

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:09:09 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Re: need another Olds

Sorry to hear about Grey Mine.

Kinda reminds me of the Soylent Ocean Mist saga.

Update;

Karl is staying at the Red Roof Inn Thu, Fri, and POSSIBLY Sat.
16, 17, (18?)

Thanks much.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:07:32 EDT
From: <Orangetrak@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Dog Hall of Fame (incl non-GM)

Nope, you're all wrong. My father had a company car, a '76 Plymouth Volare,
170ci Slany Six, 1 barrel carb, 4 door, A/C, 2.21 gears. We could'nt get it
spin it's tire while power-braking, uphill, in a moss covered gutter. My Dad's
deisel Rabbit beat it by 2 length's in what had to be the world's slowest drag
race.     Doug

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:19:26 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: am i the only one?

am i the only one that go's to rockit talk?i go thare alot and nobody is
thare,maybe its just me and my luck.

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        /             |
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:26:35 -0700
From: "Joseph Aguilar" <aguilars@pacbell.net>
Subject: Identifying '70 and '71 Ram Air Hoods

Hello,

I need some help.  How can one distinguish a 1970 Ram Air Hood from a 1971
Ram Air Hood?  Also how could you tell a reproduction from an original for
both of those years?  Thanks in advance.

Joseph

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:40:16 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Finally got some pictures up

Yea I'm in agreement, nice looking ride.

GT5726@aol.com wrote:

> It's a nice looking car!...I'm just curious ...why didn't you repaint it 
"Lime
> Green"?...Just a joke!

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:47:19 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Dog Hall of Fame (incl non-GM)

Try a Renault Dauphine - I drove the drive wheel up onto a Sunday edition of
the N.Y. Times, put the shifter in first, held the clutch in and revved the
snot out of it.  At max R's I slid my foot off the clutch.  The car stood
still as the rear wheel gathered steam spewing out page after page of that
august publication.  When, finally, rubber met the road, the most pitiful
"peep" imaginable emitted from the tortured tire and the engine stalled !
It was, in all fairness, more powerful than the Renault 2 - CV I won in a
crap game at school.  The CV designation is a French contraction for
cheveaux, which translates into English as horse.  All that one was missing
was a leash.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Orangetrak@aol.com <Orangetrak@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Dog Hall of Fame (incl non-GM)


>Nope, you're all wrong. My father had a company car, a '76 Plymouth Volare,
>170ci Slany Six, 1 barrel carb, 4 door, A/C, 2.21 gears. We could'nt get it
>spin it's tire while power-braking, uphill, in a moss covered gutter. My
Dad's
>deisel Rabbit beat it by 2 length's in what had to be the world's slowest
drag
>race.     Doug

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:55:04 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: Back from road trip

Just a note, I drive a big rig for a living and I think that when i've got
another big rig on my a** i'll move to the right and let em pass. I think that
cars that think there being cute and deciding there going to be the hiway 
police
and dictate the speed that  everyone behind them is going to do is rude and 
also
stupid. Have you ever seen a car rearended by a big rig? Not a pretty sight. 
All
i'm saying is yeild the rightaway to vehicles that want to go faster than you.
IT doesn't matter what your driving, its just the way its should be. Just my
thoughts.

JCRASH7@aol.com wrote:

> Subject: Re: Back from road trip
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:02:40 EDT
> From: JCRASH7@aol.com
> To: buehner@lyrea.com
>
> Oh-  I forgot one thing.  In Wisconsin earlier today, I was being tailgated 
by
> a semi who decided he had to go 990 mph.  I was passing a bunch of slow cars,
> and I was going 72 or so, which was over the limit anyway.  He then turned on
> his brights, which didn't bother me because I had my shades on, so I slowed
> down to 55 (the limit was 65).  He didn't like that, so he decided he had to
> be about a half an inch from the bikes, and when I was done passing, he flew
> by me, and he saw one of my fingers flying out my open window (you know which
> one).  I then noticed it was an Oldsmobile truck!  It was a promotional 
truck
> for the Alero, and I thought that was the most ironic thing.  I also noticed
> there was no "How'm I driving?" sticker on his truck.  I am going to call the
> Alero hotline (1-877-ALERO-4-U), and bitch at them for fun.
>
> Joe

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:05:51 EDT
From: <TMitch1767@aol.com>
Subject: 77 cullass parts

I NEED THE REAR QUARTER FILLER PANEL`S FROM SIDE TO SIDE
E-MAIL ANY POSSIBLE  FIND`S

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:13:48 -0400
From: "Gib Loudon" <cutlass@mill.tds.net>
Subject: WANTED:  69 CUTLASS CONVERTABLE FRAME

ATTENTION LIST MEMBERS:
A friend of mine is in desperate need of a frame for his 68 442
convertable.....when I say frame I mean the actual frame not the convertable
top frame.  Anyway, from what I have been told, the frames on the 68 thru 72
cutlass convertables were exactly the same.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
If you have or know someone who has or even think you might have seen one at
a yard or something, please let me know and get a price for me.  Please
reply to this message privately using the email address here at the bottom.
Thank you.

Gib Loudon
cutlass@mill.tds.net

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:16:39 EDT
From: <JCRASH7@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip

<< All i'm saying is
 yeild the rightaway to vehicles that want to go faster than you >>

I couldn't get over to the right, and when the truck driver turned on his
brights to try and blind me, I was just a little pissed off.

Joe

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:22:25 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: New Addition

Where do I get one of those. In fact i'll take two.
from,babyboo@pacbell.net|1970\442

James Thingwold wrote:

> Well I revised my Oldsmobile 'family' again today.  After (prudently)
> ignoring my sister's mention that there was an Oldsmobile convertible in
> her apt. complex for sale for the last 2 mos. I finally asked for further
> details.  After a very round about group of explanations of the car, today
> we made the 2 hr trip to the desert to look the car over and see if it had
> any potential.  After all he was asking $675 and around here, thats
> normally bone yard material.
>
> What I found (and bought) is a '72 Cutlass Supreme convertible, major
> living dings and indents in 1 fender, door and quarter panel, all easily
> repairable, faded paint.  108,000 on a 350 that once we uncrossed and re
> hooked up the vac lines properly, ran good.  Trans has dirty looking oil
> and apparently doesn't shift right (guessing a new filter and fluid will do
> wonders on this).  Good interior and top mechanism that works, needs a new
> top.  Bucket seat, column shift auto, non-console car (funny looking).  New
> radiator, battery, alternator and related wiring.  Decent tires.
>
> We haven't seen a deal like this around here in years.  Truthfully, it
> seems everyone who has a convertible to sell thinks they have the crown
> jewels.  I didn't pay him the full price either.   I'm glad I finally gave
> in & paid attention to my sisters comments on this car~!
>
> Started out in Oldsmobile with a '67 C/S convertible, kind of a nice idea
> to be back to another one, same dang blue even.......
>
> Lisa Madsen
> Anaheim, CA
>
> '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom, '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible,  '72
> Vista Cruiser, '80 GMC 1/2 ton (the youngster)
>
> Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
> My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
> Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
> Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
> http://exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:32:47 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI

There are a couple here in Blissfield,

A black 1976 Cutlass Salon, column shift, 350, dual exhaust, 11?000 mi,
black/maroon, $1500. Looks like a good project. Show me some interest
and I'll send a phone #.

and a CHERRY MINT 1970 Cutlass S. Bronze color, black top, looks
immaculate, if interested, i'll send you a phone #.

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:26:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Back from road trip

I'm just catching this thread now, and based on what I've seen, there is
some irresponsible driving on part of some.

But, based on a trip I made last week, it makes me wonder why people have to
drive in the left lane when they are obviously slower than other traffic?
Case in point, while driving towards Chattanooga, TN (in the '85 Cutlass, by
the way,-guess that makes this "Olds content"), I had to pass 4 cars in a
line who would not yield the left lane. I know the left lane is smoother,
etc, but there is a thing called safety. If people want to speed, that
really should be there right (and ticket, when caught). The right lane is
for slower traffic. Period. One becomes slower traffic when someone else
faster shows up. Period.

On the return leg back home to Clarksville, with much more traffic, it took
forever for me and several other drivers to get around this idiot in the
left lane (driving a T-bird!). When I finally got the opportunity to get
over into the right lane and pass, I took the time to pull up beside his old
lady in the passenger seat, slow down to even with his speed, and give them
both a look that could kill, then speed back up to my cruising speed to go
home.

By the way I was driving about 76 mph in a 70 mph interstate system
(calculated to make it a tough decision for the Trooper to go after me,
besides, many others travel much faster).

I can only imagine how frustrating these drivers make it for truckers. Quick
lane changes are not wise in a big truck.

You know the old saying about dogs and porches, if you can't run with the
big ones, stay out of the way.

Two cents for free, what a deal!



At 08:55 AM 7/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Just a note, I drive a big rig for a living and I think that when i've got
another
>big rig on my a** i'll move to the right and let em pass. I think that cars
that

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:30:53 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: Back from road trip

Thank you, Now i'll get off my soapbox, because I know this is going to spark 
up
alot of  comments from other list members.

C. Casteel wrote:

> I'm just catching this thread now, and based on what I've seen, there is
> some irresponsible driving on part of some.
>
> But, based on a trip I made last week, it makes me wonder why people have to
> drive in the left lane when they are obviously slower than other traffic?
> Case in point, while driving towards Chattanooga, TN (in the '85 Cutlass, by
> the way,-guess that makes this "Olds content"), I had to pass 4 cars in a
> line who would not yield the left lane. I know the left lane is smoother,
> etc, but there is a thing called safety. If people want to speed, that
> really should be there right (and ticket, when caught). The right lane is
> for slower traffic. Period. One becomes slower traffic when someone else
> faster shows up. Period.
>
> On the return leg back home to Clarksville, with much more traffic, it took
> forever for me and several other drivers to get around this idiot in the
> left lane (driving a T-bird!). When I finally got the opportunity to get
> over into the right lane and pass, I took the time to pull up beside his old
> lady in the passenger seat, slow down to even with his speed, and give them
> both a look that could kill, then speed back up to my cruising speed to go
> home.
>
> By the way I was driving about 76 mph in a 70 mph interstate system
> (calculated to make it a tough decision for the Trooper to go after me,
> besides, many others travel much faster).
>
> I can only imagine how frustrating these drivers make it for truckers. Quick
> lane changes are not wise in a big truck.
>
> You know the old saying about dogs and porches, if you can't run with the
> big ones, stay out of the way.
>
> Two cents for free, what a deal!
>
> At 08:55 AM 7/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >Just a note, I drive a big rig for a living and I think that when i've got
> another
> >big rig on my a** i'll move to the right and let em pass. I think that cars
> that

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:31:56 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI

How much for the 1970 S ?

Matt Cremean wrote:

> There are a couple here in Blissfield,
>
> A black 1976 Cutlass Salon, column shift, 350, dual exhaust, 11?000 mi,
> black/maroon, $1500. Looks like a good project. Show me some interest
> and I'll send a phone #.
>
> and a CHERRY MINT 1970 Cutlass S. Bronze color, black top, looks
> immaculate, if interested, i'll send you a phone #.
>
> --
> *************
> Matt Cremean
> mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
>          777777 33333
>             77      33
> Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
>           77        33
>          77     33333
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
> **************************************************

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:34:13 EDT
From: <JCRASH7@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip

Ok, everyone is saying I was going slow.  I was hovering around 72-74, and it
was a 65 zone.  I was going fast, and I couldn't get over to the right.  I was
mad at the guy because he was tailgating me, and that is dangerous and stupid.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:54:00 -0700
From: Eric Spence <ericsp@mail.ocis.net>
Subject: Re: Poor drivers

I think that one of the biggest causes of some of the poor (or more of) drivers
is the type of roads the average person drives on now compared to 20 or 40 
years
ago.  Most places have four or more lanes with interstate highways that get us
from A to B at a high speed.  Going back years ago, we had roads that were two
lanes and lots of curves.  Drivers in those days had to be better not faster in
order to navigate especially in the winter.  Take the average drive from today
and put them on the road of yesterday and they are wetting their pants.  120 on
the straight and 40 on the corners.

Also in my opinion, the drivers of today are getting worse every year because
all they have to do is go fast, not drive well and unfortunately, they are the
ones teaching the new drivers.  Each generation gets faster and worse drivers.
I have taught all mine on back roads first, then highways, then city.  They
learned what real driving was and what their restrictions were and what it 
takes
to keep the car on the road and what is required to get it stopped before they
got to go fast!

Just my 2 cents!

C. Casteel wrote:

> I'm just catching this thread now, and based on what I've seen, there is
> some irresponsible driving on part of some.

- --
Eric Spence
ericsp@mail.ocis.net
Kamloops, BC, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:42:29 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Identifying '70 and '71 Ram Air Hoods

there will be "notches" above both grille sections on the 71 the 70 will be
straight from the tongue to the edge...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Aguilar <aguilars@pacbell.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 8:21 AM
Subject: Identifying '70 and '71 Ram Air Hoods


>Hello,
>
>I need some help.  How can one distinguish a 1970 Ram Air Hood from a 1971
>Ram Air Hood?  Also how could you tell a reproduction from an original for
>both of those years?  Thanks in advance.
>
>Joseph

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:53:50 EDT
From: <JDess@aol.com>
Subject: "72 Cutlass S Convrt. Rear End

  Hi,
  I'm new to this list but have been an Olds fan for better than 45 years.  My
Automotive knowledge is really nothing to brag about.
  I have a '72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible with a 350 engine and a2 barrel
carb.
  I'd like to change a couple of things but need some advice so I don't screw
the car up.
  1.  The rear end seems geared very low, any suggestions as to what a "good"
ratio would be for my set up/.  I want to use the car as a summer road car.
Also, how's the best way to tell what I have now?
  2.  I'd like to pep the car up a little.  What would be the best way to do
this?  A 4 Barrel Carb., Duals?  Anything else?  Any other suggestions?

  Thanks
  Joe Dessel
   Endicott, NY

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:12:16 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: Back from road trip

I'm not condoning <sp> the actions of this trucker, but if you had been in
my way, going slower than the flow in the left lane, well, truck or
not, I would have let you know really quick to either pull over or
catch a good view of the bugs on the front of my vehicle. Nothing burns me more
than people who think they can police the interstates themselves and
hold up traffic that isn't afraid to run the left lane in the "go"
position..!! If you want to cruise and watch the scenery go by, well,
take an alternate route. There has to be an old highway somewhere
that the interstate replaced. Even if you do have the nerve to run
your 72-75 mph and someone wants to pass, pull over and let them
rock. Don't try to do the job that the state troopers are put out
there to do..!!

Enjoy your next trip..!!

Mike
'86 Supreme
'86 442
'71 Monte
______________________________________________________________________
> > Oh-  I forgot one thing.  In Wisconsin earlier today, I was being tailgated
by > > a semi who decided he had to go 990 mph.  I was passing a bunch of slow
cars, > > and I was going 72 or so, which was over the limit anyway.  He then
turned on > > his brights, which didn't bother me because I had my shades on, 
so
I slowed > > down to 55 (the limit was 65).  He didn't like that, so he decided
he had to > > be about a half an inch from the bikes,  <snipped>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:01:51 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: am i the only one?

At 08:19 AM 7/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>am i the only one that go's to rockit talk?i go thare alot and nobody is
>thare,maybe its just me and my luck.
>
I've gone there a few times but it is ussualy empty .

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:10:22 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip

At 12:34 PM 7/12/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Ok, everyone is saying I was going slow.  I was hovering around 72-74, and it
>was a 65 zone.  I was going fast, and I couldn't get over to the right.  I
was
>mad at the guy because he was tailgating me, and that is dangerous and
stupid.
>

If you were going 7-9 mph over the posted limit there was no real need for
you to pick a
different lane. the guy in the truck was the idiot , not you.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:06:31 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI

ou bet I'm interested in the 70 send the phone privately
- -----Original Message-----
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
To: Oldsmobile List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 9:32 AM
Subject: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI


>There are a couple here in Blissfield,
>
>A black 1976 Cutlass Salon, column shift, 350, dual exhaust, 11?000 mi,
>black/maroon, $1500. Looks like a good project. Show me some interest
>and I'll send a phone #.
>
>and a CHERRY MINT 1970 Cutlass S. Bronze color, black top, looks
>immaculate, if interested, i'll send you a phone #.
>
>--
>*************
>Matt Cremean
>mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
>+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
>         777777 33333
>            77      33
>Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
>          77        33
>         77     33333
>+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
>**************************************************

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:21:09 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Back from road trip

At 01:12 PM 7/12/98 +0000, you wrote:
>I'm not condoning <sp> the actions of this trucker, but if you had been in
>my way, going slower than the flow in the left lane, well, truck or
>not, I would have let you know really quick to either pull over or
>catch a good view of the bugs on the front of my vehicle.

Has everyone  slipped a cog lately?  You are a dnager to everyone on that
highway.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:27:47 -0700
From: Eric Spence <ericsp@mail.ocis.net>
Subject: Re: Back from road trip

I do not know what the laws are in your state, but in BC Canada, it says that
you will travel in the RIGHT lane unless passing.  Driving in the left lane
unless you have to is an invitation to more head on accidents where the 
opposing
traffic lanes do not have any dividers or media.  Less stress of maintaining a
higher speed as well.  You may not smell the flowers in the right lane, but you
can see them!  Don't get me wrong.  I like driving fast, but only use the left
lane for passing!

Bob Blanchard wrote:

> If you were going 7-9 mph over the posted limit there was no real need for
> you to pick a different lane. the guy in the truck was the idiot , not you.

 --
Eric Spence
ericsp@mail.ocis.net
Kamloops, BC, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Anybody need 76-77 parts

Hi gang,
        Just got a call about a 76-77 Cutlass,I'm betting 77 because
it's supposed to have a 403.Can't turn it down for the price,I'm going
to go see it tomorrow,Any body need anything specific?Let me know
direct if so,We'll see if we all can get some CHEAP parts.
      Later,John



==
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index.html
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-----Moonroof--307
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
 mailto:super442@yahoo.com


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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:50:50 -0400
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: "72 Cutlass S Convrt. Rear End

1.  The rear end seems geared very low, any suggestions as to what a
"good"
>ratio would be for my set up/.  I want to use the car as a summer
road car.

Depends.  For highway use and lots of driving, I'd recommend a 3.08
limited slip rear end.  For fast acceleration, but high rpms on the
highway, go with a mid range like 3.42 or 3.73.  I had 2.56, changed
to 3.73 (too high for the freeway), and switched to 3.08.

>Also, how's the best way to tell what I have now?

There's a two letter code on the front of the axle tube, look that up
in the service manual for the ratio.

>  2.  I'd like to pep the car up a little.  What would be the best
way to do
>this?  A 4 Barrel Carb., Duals?  Anything else?  Any other
suggestions?
>
For a cheap solution, get a cast iron 4bbl intake manifold and a
quality Q-jet carburator (from the Carberator shop, or an Edelbrock
version) or a 600cfm Edelbrock performer carb.  For a few more $$$,
get an Edelbrock performer aluminum intake to save some weight.

Dual exaust will make a big difference too.  Keep your manifolds to
keep it simple and have a shop that custom bends 2 1/4" aluminized
pipe make up a system.  Include a crossover or H-pipe, and some good
mufflers (Walker dynomax superturbos or flowmasters).

Use an open element 14x3 aircleaner to get the engine breathing
better.  Make sure the ignition is up to snuff.  An electronic
distributor helps reliablity.

Bump up the timing to 12 or 14 degrees with 93 octane fuel.  Just make
sure the motor doesn't ping.

After that, you will have a lot more power.  A mild torque converter
(2000 or 2200 stall) will help acceleration.  If you still need more,
go with a mild cam, lifters, timing chain, roller rockers...etc.  I've
done it all, if you need more info, just ask.

- -greg

>  Thanks
>  Joe Dessel
>   Endicott, NY

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:50:26 -0600
From: "Igor" <todorovb@cadvision.com>
Subject: Tranny lines + kick down

I swithced from th250 to th400 in my '81 Delta.  Since I will use a trans
cooler, can I just use rubber lines from tranny to cooler to rad and back
to trans instead of the solid ones.  My solid ones are shot.

Also, since the TH250 is cable kick-down and TH400 is electric, I was
wondering what I have to do or rather where I have to hook-up the downshift
on the car.  I have the cable that went from trans to engine compartment,
but that is it.  Where does it hook-up.  Thanks.

Igor Todorovic, UofC
1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 3.23 limited slip)
1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the line)
1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:52:46 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: found today in Cincinnati

Oldsmobile Cutlass Conv. 1967. Nice solid car. Yellow. New tires. $2900.
Call 513-608-8654.

Oldsmobile Toronado 1973. New batteryery, runs, rust. Needs breaks,
muffler. $650/obo. Phone:513- 221-1275

Pulled these out of the newspaper. You're on your own.

Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Royale Conv.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:46:42 -0600
From: "Igor" <todorovb@cadvision.com>
Subject: Harmonic Balancer, 455

I cranked my balancer to the specifed 120ft-lb torque.  But, it still looks
like it could go back about 1/4 inch or so.  Maybe that 1/4 inch is normal,
I don't know.  What should I look for.  Thanks.

Igor Todorovic, UofC
1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 3.23 limited slip)
1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the line)
1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:52:57 -0400
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Our very own screen saver

Hey all,

I was just thinking.  Would anyone like a screen saver for the list
members, or anyone interested in oldsmobiles?  I have the software to
make screensavers, and with you help and permission, I could put one
together using pics ouf our rides.  Perhaps we could put a link to it on
442.com.  Let me know that  you think of the idea by emailing me at my
personal address so as to not take up list space.
You can reach me at both dgerow@stonehill.edu and
dgerow@student.stonehill.edu
If its a go, start sending pictures of your cars with any information
you'd like posted.  Make sure the pictures are at least 640 x 480 in
dimension - any format will do.  Send the clearest ones you have.
That's all for now - take care all!

Daniel R. Gerow
Computer Support Systems Administrator
Stonehill College

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:03:22 -0500
From: bloom@mail.gorilla.net
Subject: Re: Hello! :)

Kim,
  Welcome and good luck on the interior. Do you by any chance give lessons
to other
Olds lovers wives on how to become interested in cars. All I get is, "no
way,I might
get dirty":p

At 12:18 AM 7/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello Everyone!
>
>I am new to the list. I have been lurking around for a few weeks, and I
>really enjoy your posts! :)
>
>I am Kim Wandrey and I have a 72 Cutlass Supreme which was my Grandparents
>car and is now my daily driver. I have had the car for 10 years and am in
>the process of restoring the interior. It has a 350 that has been rebuilt
>and is very peppy! ;) (Kim gets into trouble from time to time, but its
>worth it!! Hehe!)
>
>I do my own oil changes and tune ups. I know the parts of the motor, but
>still trying to learn what they all do. :) The only dusting I do is to
>other cars. Weeeee! :)
>
>Have a great trip to Nationals for those of you going. (I was supposed to
>go but step family incorporated decided on other plans. ;( ) Take care,
>and have a great weekend! :)
>
>Kim & Junior ('72 Cutlass Supreme)
>kaw0006@jove.acs.unt.edu
>
>
Fred K. (bloom@gorilla.net)
Tulsa,OK. area
'67 442
'67 Cutlass
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:14:45 -0700
From: "Gary Andresen" <gandresen@home.com>
Subject: RE: am I the only one?

I have tried it several time, but nobody was there.

Someone needs to set specific times that people should check.

Gary Andresen
Pleasanton, CA
'55 Olds 88 running 455

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Ryan D
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 1998 8:19 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: am i the only one?



am i the only one that go's to rockit talk?i go thare alot and nobody is
thare,maybe its just me and my luck.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:16:20 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: Re: am i the only one?

Bob Blanchard wrote:
>
> At 08:19 AM 7/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >am i the only one that go's to rockit talk?i go thare alot and nobody is
> >thare,maybe its just me and my luck.
> >
> I've gone there a few times but it is ussualy empty .
I wiil go on, how do I get there?
scott

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:21:30 -0500
From: Gregory Howze <"ghowze@primary.net"@primary.net>
Subject: 350 questions

I have a locked 350 please tell me where I can get a rebuilt one, the
guy who's shop I took it to told me it would cost $3300 to get it
rebuilt, isn't that steep?
scott

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