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oldsmobile-digest      Wednesday, July 15 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1369



Re: Convertible top installation
Any Olds list member in IN or close?
console and dualgate
Re:Performance mods
Fw: Distibutor ID
Re: :)Ala rednecks wreck alot of GRAND AMS-OLDS content too:)
Re: olds parts in CA
Windshield Header Covering Material
Re: Fw: Distibutor ID
Re: Trans cooler lines...
Running hot!!! Problem solved
For sale: Olds Rear End / TH-350
Re: lowering a delta
UNBOUNCE: Re: [1964 F-85/CUTLASS] (fwd)
UNBOUNCE: R.E.O. FLYING CLOUD (fwd)
Paging Rick Copithorne
Re: Timing problem (no marks)
Re: Oldsmobile dealer ship sign
Re: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI
Re: Windshield Header Covering Material
Non-Olds, sorry
Olds Rocket Round-Up 1998
Didn't see you at Willie's Burgers..
spark plug gaps
Re: Any Olds list member in IN or close?
screensaver pics
Info on a Massachusetts Event
Re: Fw: Distibutor ID
Muffler recomendations
RE: Muffler recomendations
Cutting/heating srpings
nationals !!!
Re: Cutting/heating srpings
Re: Cutting/heating srpings
No Mail lately
carb/gas
HELP!!
Re: Fw: Distibutor ID
Re: Performance mods
[none]
"Channeling", was re: Cutting/heating srpings
[none]
Re: Muffler recomendations
Spindles, was re: Cutting/heating srpings
Treasure Hunt
RE: Muffler recomendations
'72 CS CONV. PIN STRIPING
Re: 73 Olds Omega
Re: Any Olds list member in IN or close?
Re: Muffler recomendations
NON-OLDS: MS Word humor
Re: Muffler recomendations
??Distance to Nationals
Re: Oldsmobile dealer ship sign
Re: Running hot!!! Problem solved
Re: Spindles, was re: Cutting/heating srpings
Re: Info on a Massachusetts Event
Re: Muffler recomendations
Re: test
leaning
Re: Muffler recomendations
Re: leaning
[none]

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:01:06 EDT
From: <JCutlass@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Convertible top installation

I wish you luck on your top, however from personal experience, I suggest you
find a reputable qualified installer locally. Recently replaced top on a 68
Cutlass, or should I say made several educated and determined tries. Kicked my
butt, and several mechanically inclined friends and family. The critical part
seemed to be the attachment of the three seperate parts to the three part tack
strip that attaches in the trunk under the belt line ( the chrome trim strip
behind the back seat). All this must be stapled together then bolted up before
you stretch it up and over to the front. It seems impossible to adjust it once
you get it close. Close ain't good enuf. More art than technical. If you ever
figure out how to get the proper measurments and adjust around the curves at
the rear windows, please let me know! BTW, my material with glass window and
weatherstrip ran about $600 (from Brothers) and I was happy with the quality
(40 oz.) Install only was $300, with other quotes up to $550
Good luck   Tim in Okla

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:16:43 EDT
From: <DKlauber@aol.com>
Subject: Any Olds list member in IN or close?

I am interested in a car that is for sale in IN.   If anyone lives in IN and
has the knowledge and time to inspect the car for me, I would be willing to
pay a reasonable fee.  Please reply to me at DKlauber@aol.com
Thanks David

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: console and dualgate

Hey gang, unable to reach owner of yard where the dualgate and console
are. Don't have the cost, need some input on what this is worth.
Willing to go get for someone, but currently have late models, and
haven't priced early model stuff for a few years. Don't want to pick
this up unless it's something someone can use. Currently can't afford
to purchase and then just ride it out hoping someone might need.
Really hate to leave it in the yard, these things aren't being made
anymore and this one is in really good shape. Console is Black.
Thanks,
John




==
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1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-Moonroof-307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index-7.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
 mailto:super442@yahoo.com


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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:34:26 EDT
From: <LawLyndEr@aol.com>
Subject: Re:Performance mods

Please help, I own a 1983 Buick Electra with the 307 Oldsmobile engine. The
problem is that the car just does'nt have any guts.  I would like to change
the gears to something like 3:42's and either change the 307 out for a 350
Olds or do performance mods to the 307.  I will be keeping the emission
control systems intact. and would keep the stock exhaust system.  Any ideas to
help the trans would be also helpful.  I also currently own a 91 caprice
w/Police package and would like to get at least the same straight line
performance of the Chevy in the Buick (I realize the handling would not be
there) unless someone knows of any suspension mods that can made that would be
appreciated also.   Thanks to all for any help!!!

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:38:57 -0700
From: "Corey Day" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Fw: Distibutor ID

Subject: Distibutor ID


>I am working on a 455 in a 68 Delta 88 the Distributer is marked 1111289
and
>doesn't seem to match any of
>the listings in the FAQ:
>
>>From the Olds FAQ
>424    1111291     Olds '68 8-455, 9.0 comp w/trans ign.
>425    1111288     Olds '68 8-455, 9.0 comp w/o trans ign.
>426    1111292     Olds '68 8-455, 10.25 comp w/trans ign.
>427    1111935     Olds '68 8-455, 10.25 comp w/o trans ign.
>
>I am trying to determine information like above??
>
>Corey Day
>70 Cutlass S -455
>dayc@ix.netcom.com
>www.netcom.com/~dayc/
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:42:43 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: :)Ala rednecks wreck alot of GRAND AMS-OLDS content too:)

Compare it to this Charley
http://www2.catalina-inter.net/~mrada/olds/scarlet/scar3.jpg

Do you think mine is a late model steering wheel?

Wow, sure looks familiar.  I have ~no~ information about how many others out
there are like it.  Since the Olds cap is on it, I'd wonder, since mine came
with a Buick cap.  But I don't know.  Cool to see, though.  I think yours has a
deeper dish, too.  Can't really tell.  Had to go out for ~research~ see...  
Took
the Rockit out to a buddy's house (drank some beers and watched Conspiracy
Theory on the dish.  He has AC, food, and beer, so ~of course~ I jumped at the
offer!) anyway, decided to take the Rockit, last minute whim, and repaved
portions of the Fairview streets...  2 tracks at a time.  :)  Oil smoke or not,
I ~still~ like the way that 425 runs.   When it does.  ~Almost~ uncontrollable
power!  Heh heh.  Of course, if it ran ~right~ it'd be a bit more controllable,
but it can launch into an abusive and gratuitous display of horsepower at any
desired moment ;)

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:53:16 EDT
From: <Socalolds@aol.com>
Subject: Re: olds parts in CA

Jukka,
Send me your address and SASE and I will send you maps of every junk yard
within 100 miles of Hesperia. There must be 20 +. I've been to all of them
many times.
Dennis

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:10:37 -0500
From: Lloyd Ferguson <ferguson@1stnetusa.com>
Subject: Windshield Header Covering Material

Does anyone know of a replacement source or how to repair the grained vinyl
covering on the windshield header (where the top header seal mates to) of a
Cutlass convertible?  Mine has a couple of spots whrere it is won through
to the metal underneath.


Lloyd Ferguson
ferguson@1stnetusa.com

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:34:14 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Distibutor ID

Corey Day wrote:

> Subject: Distibutor ID
>
> >I am working on a 455 in a 68 Delta 88 the Distributer is marked 1111289
> and
> >doesn't seem to match any of
> >the listings in the FAQ:
> >
> >>From the Olds FAQ
> >424    1111291     Olds '68 8-455, 9.0 comp w/trans ign.
> >425    1111288     Olds '68 8-455, 9.0 comp w/o trans ign.
> >426    1111292     Olds '68 8-455, 10.25 comp w/trans ign.
> >427    1111935     Olds '68 8-455, 10.25 comp w/o trans ign.
> >
> >I am trying to determine information like above??
> >
> >Corey Day
> >70 Cutlass S -455
> >dayc@ix.netcom.com
> >www.netcom.com/~dayc/
> >
> >
> >

 Corey,
According to the 1968 Chassis Manual, 1111289 fits all 455 HC (Full size
models) except W-34 and K66.  (W-34 is the Force-Air system for Toros, and
K66 is the UHV system).

Although not listed in the chassis manual, 1111289 was also used on the 68
Hurst/Olds with A/C.

- --
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:15:45 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Trans cooler lines...

Would wrapping the lines with a thermo-shield tape help out any? I just
cant reroute those lines without coming in contact with the headers. The
furthest I can get the lines away from the headers would be about 1/2 to 1
inch away.

- ----------
> From: AceFace007@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Trans cooler lines...
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 4:35 PM
>
> This is bad. It kind of contradicts having a cooler at all if the fluid
being
> led back into the trans is getting heated up again and then eventually
you
> will cause it to vapor lock, much like a fuel line.
>
> Willie
> '57 Olds Super 88

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:30:09 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Running hot!!! Problem solved

Well I bought a non-thermo clutch fan and installed it. I put the
thermostat in facing 90 degrees wrong, so that may have been the problem. I
corrected it and now the car runs about 165 - 180 stuck in traffic. A big
difference from the 210 it was running.

 Is a non-thermo clutch better than a thermo clutch??

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:39:42 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: For sale: Olds Rear End / TH-350

I have an Olds 2.73 rear end (drum to drum - open) for sale. Came out of a
72 442 Convt. and was in perfect working order when pulled. Asking
$75.00....

 Also have a TH-350 from a 72 442. The trans worked when it was pulled but
was very leaky. Torque convertor is also included. Asking $50.00....

Located in the south-side Chicago land area. I need the room. E-mail me
privately if interested..

Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:39:08 -0600
From: "Igor" <todorovb@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: lowering a delta

I have variable rate springs in the car (came when I bought it.  I don't
know how good they are).  Yes the ride is stiffer and is good.  Handles
better too, looks great.  When you cut the coil you make it stiffer.  It
works out great cause you get a nicer look and better handling (cornering).
  BUT, make sure you don't go too nuts on it.  Do a little at the time even
if it takes a couple of days.  Also, when you cut the springs, remember
that heat takes out elasticity and they become crap fast, so best is to cut
by hand with hack saw, but who would bother with that.  I used a thin
grinder wheel, bucket of water and a little cut at a time, then submerge to
cool.  Torch cutting would kill the springs.  Igor.

- ----------
> From: Jason Adcock <rocketolds@vt.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: lowering a delta
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 4:28 PM
>
> Igor, are you sure that cutting the coils will make them stiffer?  The
> constant spring rate is still the same, as is the number of coils per
inch
> (or whatever the technical measurement is), so the length of the overall
> coil shouldn't matter.  So, why will the coils be stiffer?  I think the
car
> will just be lower, but not stiffer.
>
> Can anyone verify either of our claims?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jason Adcock
> mailto:jadcock@vt.edu
> http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor <todorovb@cadvision.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 3:50 AM
> Subject: Re: lowering a delta
>
>
> >Yup, even with the 255s it still looks silly.  Too much room.  One way
to
> >efectivley drop the car is to cut the coils.  You can do it 1 or .5"at
the
> >time to get to what you like.  Cutting coils will make them stiffer, so
it
> >will corner better.
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:45:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Re: [1964 F-85/CUTLASS] (fwd)

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:00:17
From: Rick Copithorne <rcopithorne@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [1964 F-85/CUTLASS]

Hey I have a 64 too and had good luck with Desert Dog Auto Parts. The guys
name is Bob and he got me a sweet looking rear valiance for the car the
was in Mint condition. He has reasonable prices and is a great guy.


> Hi, would anybody happen to have the FRONT, LEFT & RIGHT FENDER WHEEL WELL
> MOULDINGS for a 1964 F-85/Cutlass????  Or know of a place where I can pick
> them up????  Thanks!!!!



1964 Olds 442
1987 Monte Carlo SS

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:49:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: R.E.O. FLYING CLOUD (fwd)

A little out in left feld, but maybe someone can help. Not on the list,
respond directly to rubeling@rttinc.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Carsten Rubeling <rubeling@rttinc.com>
Subject: R.E.O. FLYING CLOUD

Hi! I am in possession of a 1933 or 34 R.E.O. Flying Cloud 4 door sedan
and am looking for an operators manual.  I'm a novice at this sort of
thing and looking for any info I can get.  Does your club have access to
such info?  Thanks for any help.
Sharon Rubeling

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:26:53 EDT
From: <GraphixRUs@aol.com>
Subject: Paging Rick Copithorne

Please E-mail me direct
Roger Utter

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:24:12 EDT
From: <GT5726@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Timing problem (no marks)

backfires could be caused by any number of things...retarded timing,
sticking/bent valve, worn camshaft lobe, stretched timing chain, worn timing
chain gears...Start by checking the timing itself...then do a compresion test
to check the internal condition of the motor.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:26:11 EDT
From: <MMuss@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile dealer ship sign

Where is it at and how big is it?

Thanks,

Marty

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:59:38 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: OLDSES 4 Sale in S.E. MI

Kerry Kroger wrote:
>
> ou bet I'm interested in the 70 send the phone privately
>
> >
> >and a CHERRY MINT 1970 Cutlass S. Bronze color, black top, looks
> >immaculate, if interested, i'll send you a phone #.

the phone # is 517.486.2231

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:55:58 -0400
From: "George & Joan C. Lesperance" <gal1@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Re: Windshield Header Covering Material

Hi Lloyd:  If you are very careful you might take a piece of extra material
from elewhere on you top and very carefully slip it between your metal and the
whole on the inside (underneath) if the whole is just thread bare it may do the
trick with some clear vinyl repair or if the wholes are too big you may just
have to replace the whole top.  I've used the clear vinyl repair and it does
work - it's not for show though.  Joan

Lloyd Ferguson wrote:

> Does anyone know of a replacement source or how to repair the grained vinyl
> covering on the windshield header (where the top header seal mates to) of a
> Cutlass convertible?  Mine has a couple of spots whrere it is won through
> to the metal underneath.
>
> Lloyd Ferguson
> ferguson@1stnetusa.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:01:42 -0400
From: Jim Hurd <jhurd@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: Non-Olds, sorry

List,

        Sorry for the non-olds content, but I need to pointed in the right
direction.  My uncle is selling two cars that he would like to find out what
they are worth, and how to locate people interested in these cars
(listserves, clubs/groups).  The two cars are:

1977 Dodge Power Wagon 360 V8 4x4
restored 6-7 yrs ago

1975 Dodge Monaco Royal Brougham 4dr 318 (??) V8
runs and drives, some rust, needs restoring

Again, sorry for the non-olds content.  Any info would be appreciated,
please reply directly. jhurd@neo.lrun.com




Jim H.
'87 Salon

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:03:53 -0600
From: "Kevin Meredith" <bkmeredith@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Olds Rocket Round-Up 1998

For anyone cruising through southern Alberta this weekend, don't miss THE
annual event for the Northern Lights Chapter...The 1998 Olds Rocket Round-Up
in Olds, Alberta.

Events, show and shine, parts swap run noon to 4 pm. Awards dinner 4:30 to
???.

Ya'll come.  More details at
http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/kpilidis/rocket.htm

Kevin Meredith
70 Vista Cruiser
mailto:bkmeredith@telusplanet.net
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mereditk/bkolds.htm

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:03:55 -0600
From: "Kevin Meredith" <bkmeredith@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Didn't see you at Willie's Burgers..

Igor, I don't know if you are connected with the Calgary gang of Olds nuts
from the Northern Lights Oldsmobile Chapter.  Last night, about 15 Calgary
Olds owners met at Willie's on MacLeod Trail for a few hours. 69,70 and 72
convertables, an 83 15th anniversary Hurst, my rusty Vista Cruiser. Even had
a fellow with a 72 4door hardtop with 13K original miles and an early 50's
Olds 98.

Let me know if you're interested and I'll keep you up to speed on the next
meeting...

Kevin.

Kevin Meredith
70 Vista Cruiser
mailto:bkmeredith@telusplanet.net
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mereditk/bkolds.htm


> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Igor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 1:39 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: lowering a delta
>
>
>
> I have variable rate springs in the car (came when I bought it.  I don't
> know how good they are).  Yes the ride is stiffer and is good.  Handles
> better too, looks great.  When you cut the coil you make it stiffer.  It
> works out great cause you get a nicer look and better handling
> (cornering).
>   BUT, make sure you don't go too nuts on it.  Do a little at the
> time even
> if it takes a couple of days.  Also, when you cut the springs, remember
> that heat takes out elasticity and they become crap fast, so best
> is to cut
> by hand with hack saw, but who would bother with that.  I used a thin
> grinder wheel, bucket of water and a little cut at a time, then
> submerge to
> cool.  Torch cutting would kill the springs.  Igor.
>
> ----------
> > From: Jason Adcock <rocketolds@vt.edu>
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: lowering a delta
> > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 4:28 PM
> >
> > Igor, are you sure that cutting the coils will make them stiffer?  The
> > constant spring rate is still the same, as is the number of coils per
> inch
> > (or whatever the technical measurement is), so the length of the overall
> > coil shouldn't matter.  So, why will the coils be stiffer?  I think the
> car
> > will just be lower, but not stiffer.
> >
> > Can anyone verify either of our claims?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jason Adcock
> > mailto:jadcock@vt.edu
> > http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Igor <todorovb@cadvision.com>
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 3:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: lowering a delta
> >
> >
> > >Yup, even with the 255s it still looks silly.  Too much room.  One way
> to
> > >efectivley drop the car is to cut the coils.  You can do it 1 or .5"at
> the
> > >time to get to what you like.  Cutting coils will make them stiffer, so
> it
> > >will corner better.
> >
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:07:40 -0700
From: "Joe Carey" <jcatgktw@email.msn.com>
Subject: spark plug gaps

Last week I installed new Rapid-fire plugs in my 87 442.  I did not look at
the manual before purchasing the plugs.  The guy at the counter gave me
plugs gapped at .045 but the manual says to use .060.  Is this going to
cause me any problems now or later? it is running really good at the moment.

Thanks
Joe   87  442

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:04:38 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Any Olds list member in IN or close?

Where in Indiana is the car?

Mark Hahn
75D88C

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:39:07 EDT
From: <RICH6986@aol.com>
Subject: screensaver pics

for anyone who wants to send me pics of there cars for the screen saver i am
making dont send it in mime format my computer doesnt like that so if you
could send them either as jpg or just tell me where to look on the net that
would be better and if you have already sent me some in mime try sending it
again in a jpg
                                                     thanks Rich Fernandez
                                            81,82,85 cutlass supreme

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:44:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Info on a Massachusetts Event

  On August 22 there will be a car show/swap meet in North Hampton, MA
at the Tri-County Fairgrounds.  Free admission, not sure what the fees
are for entering a car.  I'll be there, and I just wanted to let
everyone in the New England area know that this show is going on.
I'll update when I get more info.

Stefan
sgadecki@yahoo.com
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:08:32 -0700
From: "Corey Day" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Distibutor ID

Greg-

Thanks, I would assume that HC stands for high compression(10.25)?

Corey Day
70 Cutlass S -455
dayc@ix.netcom.com
www.netcom.com/~dayc/

- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Distibutor ID


>
>
>Corey Day wrote:
>
>> Subject: Distibutor ID
>>
>> >I am working on a 455 in a 68 Delta 88 the Distributer is marked 1111289
>> and
>> >doesn't seem to match any of
>> >the listings in the FAQ:
>> >
>> >>From the Olds FAQ
>> >424    1111291     Olds '68 8-455, 9.0 comp w/trans ign.
>> >425    1111288     Olds '68 8-455, 9.0 comp w/o trans ign.
>> >426    1111292     Olds '68 8-455, 10.25 comp w/trans ign.
>> >427    1111935     Olds '68 8-455, 10.25 comp w/o trans ign.
>> >
>> >I am trying to determine information like above??
>> >
>> >Corey Day
>> >70 Cutlass S -455
>> >dayc@ix.netcom.com
>> >www.netcom.com/~dayc/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> Corey,
>According to the 1968 Chassis Manual, 1111289 fits all 455 HC (Full size
>models) except W-34 and K66.  (W-34 is the Force-Air system for Toros, and
>K66 is the UHV system).
>
>Although not listed in the chassis manual, 1111289 was also used on the 68
>Hurst/Olds with A/C.
>
>--
>Greg Rollin
>Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
>http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
>E-mail: supercars@transport.com
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:05:29 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com>
Subject: Muffler recomendations

The turbo mufflers that were installed on my 4-4-2 last year are rattling.
Yes, they sound like h*ll at idle and are making all kinds of leaking and
other noises.  Before I get real mad and replace them with glasspacks, I would
like to get some feed back on mufflers that seem to last a while.  One year
and less than 5000 miles seems a little soon to me.  I do want something
fairly quiet as I do like to hear the factory radio while driving.

TIA,
Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2 (hear it rattle in Springfield on Friday)

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:24:37 -0500
From: "Johnson, Sam" <SAJOHNSON@usds.com>
Subject: RE: Muffler recomendations

I like Flowmasters myself!   Never had a problem and they last a long time
and they do not rust.

Peace

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	David L Wyatt [SMTP:WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, July 15, 1998 9:05 AM
> To:	Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject:	Muffler recomendations
>
> The turbo mufflers that were installed on my 4-4-2 last year are rattling.
> Yes, they sound like h*ll at idle and are making all kinds of leaking and
> other noises.  Before I get real mad and replace them with glasspacks, I
> would
> like to get some feed back on mufflers that seem to last a while.  One
> year
> and less than 5000 miles seems a little soon to me.  I do want something
> fairly quiet as I do like to hear the factory radio while driving.
>
> TIA,
> Dave Wyatt
> 70  4-4-2 (hear it rattle in Springfield on Friday)
>

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:04:42 -0400
From: "Robert Handren" <rhandren@gate.net>
Subject: Cutting/heating srpings

Since I'm on the digest I risk that this has already been answered or
commented upon but since there is a safety issue I felt I should butt in.

A spring and a torsion bar (a la M*p*r designs) are essentially the same
thing. One is straight, the other is bent into a coil. If you shorten the
torsion bar it will be more difficult to twist it because there is less
material to twist. Cutting a coil accomplishes the same thing and it will be
stiffer. Springs are rated in lbs/in of deflection. Cutting the coil will
increase this value. An easy demonstration is to take two paper clips. Leave
one full length, cut the other in half. Bend both so that you have "handles"
at each end. See which one is easier to twist. The shorter one is a lot
tougher. Also, the more coils (the longer the torision bar) for the same
diameter wire, the softer the spring. So cutting one coil from a spring with
10 twists will have less effect than cutting one coil from a spring with 8
twists.

Safety note: NEVER HEAT COIL SPRINGS TO LOWER A CAR!

Springs are tempered steel. Heating destroys the temper and can make the
metal brittle. It can definitely ruin your day (and maybe your life) if you
hit a bump and the spring breaks. The only safe methods of lowering are
cutting coils and dropped spindles. (I haven't heard of anyone "channeling"
a modern car lately.) Of the two, dropped spindles retain the factory
designed front end geometry. Buy spindles only from reputable well known
companies. Again, your life and well being could depend on it.

Nuff said.

(For those age challenged folks who don't remember or know the old
customizing methods of the 50's, channeling is where you make channels into
the car/truck body so that it can be reinstalled on the frame at a lower
position. This leaves the frame, suspension and drive train in the stock
configuration. It's a very big job frequently requiring a new floor pan,
modified fire wall, etc. to clear the trans, drive shaft and engine. Not
easy or cheap but it really changes the appearance of the car dramatically.
Appears to be a lost art these days.)

Bob Handren

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:39:06 -0000
From: "erik HILL" <ehill@gowebway.com>
Subject: nationals !!!

how does one go about collecting their goody bag and related items if
you've pre-registered and cannot make it to the show ???



erik
'88 cutlass

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:00:44 EDT
From: <R4C442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Cutting/heating srpings

Hiya Bobby!
    I think the modern custom dudes call  that "slamming" now. Can you see
through the smoke yet?
                                                               Ron Forsee
                                                               65 442-Meister

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:07:42 -0500
From: "Brett Wilson" <bwilson@dmotorworks.com>
Subject: Re: Cutting/heating srpings

Channeling has now been taken up by many low-riders and other custom cars as
"Body Dropping" it costs a pretty penny to get this done now, I think about
3,000.00 for a 60's cutlass.(probably the easiest).  Looks awesome though.
Brett Wilson
67 Cutlass Convertible

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Handren <rhandren@gate.net>
To: Olds List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 10:04 AM
Subject: Cutting/heating srpings


>Since I'm on the digest I risk that this has already been answered or
>commented upon but since there is a safety issue I felt I should butt in.
>
>A spring and a torsion bar (a la M*p*r designs) are essentially the same
>thing. One is straight, the other is bent into a coil. If you shorten the
>torsion bar it will be more difficult to twist it because there is less
>material to twist. Cutting a coil accomplishes the same thing and it will
be
>stiffer. Springs are rated in lbs/in of deflection. Cutting the coil will
>increase this value. An easy demonstration is to take two paper clips.
Leave
>one full length, cut the other in half. Bend both so that you have
"handles"
>at each end. See which one is easier to twist. The shorter one is a lot
>tougher. Also, the more coils (the longer the torision bar) for the same
>diameter wire, the softer the spring. So cutting one coil from a spring
with
>10 twists will have less effect than cutting one coil from a spring with 8
>twists.
>
>Safety note: NEVER HEAT COIL SPRINGS TO LOWER A CAR!
>
>Springs are tempered steel. Heating destroys the temper and can make the
>metal brittle. It can definitely ruin your day (and maybe your life) if you
>hit a bump and the spring breaks. The only safe methods of lowering are
>cutting coils and dropped spindles. (I haven't heard of anyone "channeling"
>a modern car lately.) Of the two, dropped spindles retain the factory
>designed front end geometry. Buy spindles only from reputable well known
>companies. Again, your life and well being could depend on it.
>
>Nuff said.
>
>(For those age challenged folks who don't remember or know the old
>customizing methods of the 50's, channeling is where you make channels into
>the car/truck body so that it can be reinstalled on the frame at a lower
>position. This leaves the frame, suspension and drive train in the stock
>configuration. It's a very big job frequently requiring a new floor pan,
>modified fire wall, etc. to clear the trans, drive shaft and engine. Not
>easy or cheap but it really changes the appearance of the car dramatically.
>Appears to be a lost art these days.)
>
>Bob Handren
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:27:26 EDT
From: <RCKTPWR@aol.com>
Subject: No Mail lately

Any problems w/the list?  Haven't had any mail for the last 2 days.
Bernie

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:30:21 EDT
From: <RICH6986@aol.com>
Subject: carb/gas

I have a problem with an 85 cutlass supreme when I start it up when it has
been sitting for a while all you can smell is gas its a v-6 3.8 does anyone
have any ideas on how to fix it if not a new 350 will be going into it
Rich Fernandez
81 cutlass
82 cutlass
85 cutlass

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:44:56 -0700
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: HELP!!

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 I HAVE JUST BECOME THE PROUD OWNER OF A 1966 F-85 3800 SERIES.  THE CAR IS
ALL ORIGINAL,  BUT HAS DAMAGE TO THE LEFT FRONT FENDER AND FRONT BUMPER.  I
NEED A PARTS SOURCE IN WESTERN WASHINGTON STATE.  I AM THE SECOND OWNER OF
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UNREADABLE.   I AM INCLUDING ALL INFO FROM THE CAR DATA PLATE ( PAGE 52)
OF OF MY OWNER PROTECTION PLAN BOOKLET IN HOPES THAT SOMEONE CAN HELP ME
DETERMINE WHAT I HAVE UNDER THE HOOD,  WHATS SENDING THE POWER TO THE
WHEELS,  AND WHAT OPTIONS WERE INSTALLED AT THE FACTORY.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:46:59 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Distibutor ID

Corey Day wrote:

> Greg-
>
> Thanks, I would assume that HC stands for high compression(10.25)?
>
> Corey Day
> 70 Cutlass S -455
> dayc@ix.netcom.com
> www.netcom.com/~dayc/

Your assumption is correct.
- --
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:56:28 -0400
From: Angel castrodad <angleki@prtc.net>
Subject: Re: Performance mods

 > I would like to change
>the gears to something like 3:42's and either change the 307 out for a 350
>Olds or do performance mods to the 307.  I will be keeping the emission
>control systems intact. and would keep the stock exhaust system.


	While 95% of the list will tell you to change to a 350 or go all the 
way
to a 455 (and they're probably right), I'll tell you some mods for "the
little engine that could". These mods are not that expensive compared to
internal or head work on the motor and might yeild some of that power you
want.
	Starting front to back, you might want to find a way to route an 
extension
of the air intake snorkel on the air cleaner so that it takes air from
under the front bumper. Sort of like a poor man's ram air. Then get
yourself a K&N air filter (PN 1500 , I think). Get yourself a set of Accel
or Jacobb's (am I right?) plug wires to make a connection between Rapidfire
or Splitfire spark plugas and you HEI distributor with an Accel Super Coil
on it.
	You might want to check out Hypertech for a performance chip for your 
car
although I've heard skeptisism from list members about using these chips.
For the tranny, try a Hurst Hot shift kit and Hot shift tranny fluid.
That'll perk it right up.	
	If you're gonna keep you stock exhaust, you might want to make it 
better.
Try a hi-flow cat like Dynomax's super converter and a pair of (or a single
one if you have a single muffler) Ultra flo mufflers.
	If you're gonna mess with the rear try 3.73 gears if you have a four 
speed
auto tranny or 3.23 for a three speed one.
I think all this can help you but it's only my opinion and any list member
is more than welcome to share, contribute, correct or even diss all
this...............in the proper way.

Good luck!!

Angel Castrodad
angleki@prtc.net	
'86 442---------> 307 (5A), TH-350(not my fault), 3.73 rear,
Oooh.....T-tops!!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:05:02 -0400
From: "Thomas Morrison" <tgunn99@earthlink.net>
Subject: [none]

subscribe

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:06:48 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: "Channeling", was re: Cutting/heating srpings

Bob,

Where it might not be true "channeling", we plan on lowering the SCCA Cutlass
by removing the body mounts and bolting the body directly to the frame.  In a
street driven car, this might be too harsh, but this car will definitely be
anything but street driven!

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:07:38 -0400
From: "Thomas Morrison" <tgunn99@earthlink.net>
Subject: [none]

subscribe  tgunn99@earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:21:56 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Muffler recomendations

I put a pair of dyno-max mufflers. These mufflers are aluminum so they last
alot longer than normal steel. They are fairly quiet especially if running
a full exhaust and tailpipes.

- ----------
> From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com>
> To: Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Muffler recomendations
> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 9:05 AM
>
> The turbo mufflers that were installed on my 4-4-2 last year are
rattling.
> Yes, they sound like h*ll at idle and are making all kinds of leaking and
> other noises.  Before I get real mad and replace them with glasspacks, I
would
> like to get some feed back on mufflers that seem to last a while.  One
year
> and less than 5000 miles seems a little soon to me.  I do want something
> fairly quiet as I do like to hear the factory radio while driving.
>
> TIA,
> Dave Wyatt
> 70  4-4-2 (hear it rattle in Springfield on Friday)
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:20:33 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Spindles, was re: Cutting/heating srpings

I saw the mentioning of dropped spindles and thought I'd add my cent-and-a-
half.  The local roundy-round racers are always looking for the spindles off
of some years and models (late 60's) of P-word Catalinas.  They say these
lower the car quite well and have a seperate steering arm, like the 70-72 A-
body spindles.  I've heard them also mention that some late 60's Olds models
have a spindle that is similar, just that they are made to use a different
caliper.  I personally know that early 70's C-word (and possibily Oldses)
spindles don't have a bolt-on steering arm, these are the ones we have on our
stock car.

The different spindle heights of various GM cars would be something that would
benefit many people looking to lower their respective cars, anyone have any
information about this?

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:27:46 -0700
From: Erik Badzinski <erikreb@netbridge.net>
Subject: Treasure Hunt

Hello all,

Just thought everyone would like to know what I found in my car today
while cleaning it:

Protect-o-Plate
'72 Oldsmobile Owners Manual
'72 Oldsmobile Emmission Control System
'72 Oldsmobile Consumer Information
'72 Oldsmobile New Vehicle Warranty
and a '72 Oldsmobile Pre-Delivery Check List Sheet

All in great condition!! I was stoked!!

Erik B.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:35:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Muffler recomendations

- ---"Johnson, Sam" <SAJOHNSON@usds.com> wrote:
>
> I like Flowmasters myself!   Never had a problem and they last a
long time
> and they do not rust.
 -----Original Message-----
> > From:	David L Wyatt [SMTP:WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com]


I agree 100%!!Flowmasters come in 1,2,3 chamber designs.To say the
least 1 chambers are LOUD,2 chambers nice rumble(muffled slightly more
with converter), 3 chambers REAL quiet.Mine have been on my Black car
for about 5 years,no problems ,all my cars,including Frogs442's 91 GMC
van,not LOUD but nice Rumble.
    FLOWMASTER,no exceptions,my .02
                  John
==
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index.html
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73 http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html
1984 Cutlass-Moonroof-307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/index-7.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
 mailto:super442@yahoo.com


_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:47:02 -0700
From: "David E. Cohen" <thunder@onr.com>
Subject: '72 CS CONV. PIN STRIPING

Does anyone have detailed pictures of the pin striping that you can
e-mail me or is there a web site of the pin striping of a 1972 CS CONV?
Mine just got her first coat of fresh paint and looks sssweet, but I
neglected to take pictures beforehand!

Thanks for a reply.

David

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:01:50 -0600
From: "William E. Wall" <wwall@ixi.net>
Subject: Re: 73 Olds Omega

Thanks for the info on my Omega.  Is there a way to find out how many were
made with my options?  Thanks again!!

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:58:39 EDT
From: <Mr57olds@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Any Olds list member in IN or close?

In a message dated 98-07-15 00:20:02 EDT, you write:

<< If anyone lives in IN and
 has the knowledge and time to inspect the car for me, >>

I live in Northern In. near Ft Wayne. I am leaving for nationals in
Springfield Thur Morn.   If close I would look at car next week.
'54 olds
'57 olds
'64 cutlass conv
'64 cutlass ht
'98 intrigue

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:45 EDT
From: <GT5726@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler recomendations

Flowmasters are a little more exspensive(usually around $50.00 a peice) , but
they are aluminized and last forever!...Not to mention the sound is awesome!

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:53:34 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: NON-OLDS: MS Word humor

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Hi all,

Sorry for the non-olds e-mail, however, it really is funny.

- --
Try this:

  1) In MS Word type "I'd like to see you naked" without the quotation marks.

  2) Highlight the phrase and select Thesaurus from the Tools menu (shift
F7).

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
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68 442 SC - Frosty
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82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
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To: "Conrad, Christopher V" <christopher.v.conrad@boeing.com>
Cc: "Borenstein, Bernard S" <bernard.s.borenstein@boeing.com>
Subject: FW: MS Word
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:46:25 -0700
X-Priority: 3
MIME-Version: 1.0


Pat Swaminathan

> ----------
> From: 	Brown, Scott H
> Sent: 	Friday, June 26, 1998 12:56 PM
> To: 	Bocksch, Brian L; Larsen, William D; Reynolds, David M; Devine,
> Matthew D; Sanford, Richard C; Orlowski, Robert J; Price, Kenneth G;
> Heesen, Robert B
> Subject: 	FW: MS Word
>
> A follow on to the "unable to follow directions" one:
>
>      Try this:
>
>      1) In MS Word type "I'd like to see you naked" without the
> quotation
>      marks.
>      2) Highlight the phrase and select Thesaurus from the Tools menu
>      (shift F7)
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:32:43 -0400
From: "George & Joan C. Lesperance" <gal1@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Re: Muffler recomendations

I had the same problem with my 442.  You burn the baffels out of them.  I had
trubo mufflers and did the same thing, Walker continentals  and burned the 
fibre
glass right out of them.
The only ones that seemed to last the longest where the original factory ones
which I don't believe are available anymore.
My wife's F85 350 has turbos and they are about 5 years old. They're fine.
I put stainless mufflers on the 442 and they're OK but it is too soon to tell
for sure. It always seems to be the passenger side to go first - don't know
reason why. George

David L Wyatt wrote:

> The turbo mufflers that were installed on my 4-4-2 last year are rattling.
> Yes, they sound like h*ll at idle and are making all kinds of leaking and
> other noises.  Before I get real mad and replace them with glasspacks, I 
would
> like to get some feed back on mufflers that seem to last a while.  One year
> and less than 5000 miles seems a little soon to me.  I do want something
> fairly quiet as I do like to hear the factory radio while driving.
>
> TIA,
> Dave Wyatt
> 70  4-4-2 (hear it rattle in Springfield on Friday)

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:41:11 -0400
From: "George & Joan C. Lesperance" <gal1@MNSi.Net>
Subject: ??Distance to Nationals

Hi Folks:  A quick question -- how far is it from Detroit to
Springfield?  Joan

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:56:18 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile dealer ship sign

ohio and its about 7 feet tall

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:12:50 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Running hot!!! Problem solved

At 02:30 AM 7/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Well I bought a non-thermo clutch fan and installed it. I put the
>thermostat in facing 90 degrees wrong,

how was it 90 dgrees wrong, was it upside down?
I just put one in myself , now i'm wondering if its in wrong because it runs
about 210-220 in traffic (which is better than the 220-250  it was running
with NO
thermistat at all).

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:15:44 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Spindles, was re: Cutting/heating srpings

At 01:20 PM 7/15/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I saw the mentioning of dropped spindles and thought I'd add my cent-and-a-
>half.  The local roundy-round racers are always looking for the spindles off
>of some years and models (late 60's) of P-word Catalinas.  They say these
>lower the car quite well and have a seperate steering arm, like the 70-72 A-
>body spindles.  I've heard them also mention that some late 60's Olds models
>have a spindle that is similar,

Not sure how much this helps , but the late '60's DRUM BRAKE spindles have a
seperate bolt-on steering arm.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:43:48 EDT
From: <RICH6986@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Info on a Massachusetts Event

to the person who said that there was going to be a show in north hampton aug
22 is it north hampton or northampton
rich

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:03:02 -0400
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler recomendations

I've been running Walker Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers for almost 7
years now.  They still don't have a spot of rust on them.  they are
aluminized steel.

I would have gotten Flowmasters, but they were too much $$$.  The
dynomax are around $30 each.

They sound real good too.

- -greg

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:12:49 -0700
From: "mr. coy d. arbogast" <coyster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: test

only a test
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> From: Jukka.Kujala@outokumpu.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: olds parts in CA
> Date: Monday, July 13, 1998 10:22 PM
>
>
> Hey everybody
>
> Anybody could give me advice about olds parts near Hesperia, CA. (
> partstores, junkyards etc.)
> I€m going to be there for two weeks at the beginning of Sept.
> Any classic car meetings, e.g in Pomona, at that time?
>
> Jukka
> Finland
> Europe
>
> olds dynamic 88 €63
>
>

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:12:50 EDT
From: <RICH6986@aol.com>
Subject: leaning

85 cutlass supreme leaning to one side passenger side is lower than driver
side have replaced shocks put in new stabalizer pin kit still leans anybody
have any ideas                             thanks for any help
                                           rich
                                  81,82,85 cutlass suppreme

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:18:34 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler recomendations

In a message dated 98-07-15 10:25:42 EDT, you write:

<< I like Flowmasters myself!   Never had a problem and they last a long time
 and they do not rust. >>

Is that because they're stainless steel? Just wondering because the only way I
have found to prevent rust was to paint the inside of the exhaust with high
temp paint.
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:24:06 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: leaning

> 85 cutlass supreme leaning to one side passenger side is lower than driver
> side have replaced shocks put in new stabalizer pin kit still leans anybody
> have any ideas

My guess would be the springs.  Shocks (non-air) do nothing for ride
height, and stabalizer bushing kits don't do anything either.  Well, all
of this will make it ride nicer, but assuming nothing is bent or out of
kilter, the springs handle the height.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 05:24:16 +0900
From: *Bull*sEye* <2m45d3@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [none]


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