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oldsmobile-digest      Thursday, August 13 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1425



Re: Your flamed!
Re: Trans fluid leak
Re: OLDS NEON
Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme
Re: Parts and info needed for 70 W-30
Re: Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme
Re: Your flamed!
Some e-mail etiquette
Re: Olds model Stuff
G-Body Seat Question.
Re: Olds model Stuff
Re: Parts and info needed for 70 W-30
RE: Olds model Stuff
Re: G-Body Seat Question.
Re: Trans fluid leak
Re: Parts and info needed for 70 W-30
Re: Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme
Re: Your flamed!
Re: G-Body Seat Question.
Re: Trans fluid leak
RE: Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme
Magnum Rockers
Magnum Rockers
Re: Trans fluid leak
Re: Thrashing to get ready...
Re: Magnum Rockers
Re: W-30 Automatics (was HP question)
Re: Magnum Rockers
Re: G-Body Seat Question.
RE: G-Body Seat Question.
Re: W-30 Automatics (was HP question)
circa 1950 to 1953 mechanical pencil for sale (fwd)
Cheap 442 Convert ads
Re: W-30 Automatics (was HP question)
A great injustice?
Re: Olds Nascar
Re: fender patch panels
Carbs.
Re: Cheap 442 Convert ads
Re: Some e-mail etiquette
Re: A great injustice?
Re: Trans fluid leak
Re: A great injustice?
Re: G-Body Seat Question.
Re: Your flamed!
wow
Thanks : blown tailight  fuses fixed
Re: Trans fluid leak
Re: A great injustice?
Re: Distributor Woes
Re: wow
Gross vs Net(SAE) HP
Re: Olds Nascar
1962 olsd f85

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:44:19 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@ee.net>
Subject: Re: Your flamed!

I agree.  My 75 H/O (350/TH-350) before I ripped it apart for a resto was 
slower
than a 4cyl mustang.  Even my 80 442 (350/TH-350) is slow.  After having LT1 
and
driven LS1 powered cars, if it don't run mid to low 13's in the 1/4 stock, it 
is
slow :-)

Jason Labay (jlabay@ee.net)   Akron, OH
98 Silverado C2500     88 Trans Am GTA
75 Hurst/Olds W-25    80 Olds 442 W-30
72 Cutlass Supreme Drag Car

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From: Ed Binnix <comid@jellico.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Your flamed!


>My wife had a '74 Cutlass 350/350 back in the early eighties. Her father had
>maintained it meticulously since new. Yes . . . SLOW!
>

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:54:41 -0400
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@pa.net>
Subject: Re: Trans fluid leak

Had this happen with 69 Cutlass ... turned out I had bad seal at dipstick
hole ... coupled with an over fill
Ken Swick
swickka@pa.net

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:57:46 EDT
From: <RICH6986@aol.com>
Subject: Re: OLDS NEON

you should make a cutlass sign i would buy that one    Rich
81,82,85 cutlass supreme

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:03:46 -0400
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@pa.net>
Subject: Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme

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I have chance to buy 78 Cutlass Supreme ... SS wheels
very nice body ... great interior
307 pw / pdl / pdb / ps / power seats / no air  ... price $ 1200

I have no idea of price for very clean 78 Cutlass Sup. Any ideas?
Ken Swick
swickka@pa.net

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 98 12:11:27 -0500
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: Re: Parts and info needed for 70 W-30

Joe,
Instead of setting a target date of 60+ days, try something unreasonable
like September 13, the day of the Capitol City Rockets Show @ Templeton
Oldsmobile in Vienna, VA ;-)
That way you can REALLY get your shorts in a bind and not worry 'bout the
Hot Rod Power Tour, 'cause the car would already be done ahead of schedule

<hee, hee, hee.....snicker, snicker>

If anyone needs info 'bout the above mentioned show, check out
http://www.oldsclub.org and click on "Local Events" to see Oldsmobile
events across the country.

Brad Nicholson - OCA's WebGuy
brad442@erols.com

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:17:28 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme

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I'd buy it in a minute for that price. I've got a homeless 455!  ;-)
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:21:13 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Your flamed!

In a message dated 98-08-13 11:42:42 EDT, you write:

<< I agree.  My 75 H/O (350/TH-350) before I ripped it apart for a resto was
slower than a 4cyl mustang.  >>

My apologies to Ibiggs!

I have communicated off and on with J Labay and his "say so" reinforces your
statements somewhat!

But I will have to ask here:

Why is a 1975 Cutlass Supreme reputed to be slower than a rock while a 1976 w
a/c gots some excuse for b@lls??

Its not the Rear axle diff, is it?

SOM
&KA

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:38:06 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Some e-mail etiquette

Please trim your replys to include enough of the message to convey the original
poster's thoughts, subject, etc.

I'm feeling grouchy today after weeding through three digests per day to which
there was about 2/3 excess wordage. Thanks you.
- --
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
          Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
http://www.442.com   OR   http://www.en.com/users/thall
Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
           ftp://arl.arizona.edu/lists/olds

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:40:33 EDT
From: <CRuper1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Olds model Stuff

In a message dated 8/13/98 6:11:03 AM EST, kerryk@MCI2000.com writes:

<<

 >I'm looking for a ERTL 69 hurst model and can't find one. If anyone knows
 of
 >one let me know. Thanks Chris

  >>

Ertl made these, but they went Out Of Production a few years ago (five, or
more, maybe).  You can still find them at some of the hobby shops (some even
on-line) that carry older models.  You will pay a little more than a brand
new, current production model, but if that is what you want....  You should be
able to find them in the $15-20 range with no problems, and actually you can
get them for less if you look some.  Also try the toy, and hobby shows/swap
meets and you can find them there also.

Chris Ruper

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:00:03 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@viperlink.net>
Subject: G-Body Seat Question.

Question for anyone that can answer, or has a junk yard near by to
confirm or deny...

I am working on converting my 87 Cutlass from 60/40 Split Bench to
Bucket seats.  Though the high back buckets in the Cutli are nice, and
I'd love to use them, in my area, they are scare in the yards...
However, the seats from a late 70's early 80's Camaro/Firebird in the
high back rounded bucket seat look like they would fit.

Here's my question..

Has anyone dropped a set of Camaro seats (not 84-on up) onto the Cutlass
seat mounts?

If not, has anyone gotten any measurements from said seats?  My Cutlass
appears to have a 15X15 mounting area (studs on each corner) or at least
a round about 15X15, I went junk yard hopping this morning, and turned
up about 6 Camaros, none with seats, and 3 F-Birds 2 missing seats, and
one with a bench?!?!?!?  All the rest around here are 84 on up...
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:16:27 -0400
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Re: Olds model Stuff

Hey all...

At the Toys R Us here in Easton, MA there is a readily available supply of the
Ertl cars.  Presently I can get:

    '69 H/O  white/gold
    '69 4-4-2  Black w/ white stripes
    '69 4-4-2  Silver w/ red stripes

Of course they have a bunch of other makes, but who would want those anyway?
Let me know if anyone is interested... You can email me privately at:
dgerow@stonehill.edu

dgerow@student.stonehill.edu

CRuper1@AOL.COM wrote:

> In a message dated 8/13/98 6:11:03 AM EST, kerryk@MCI2000.com writes:
>
> <<
>
>  >I'm looking for a ERTL 69 hurst model and can't find one. If anyone knows
>  of
>  >one let me know. Thanks Chris
>
>   >>
>
> Ertl made these, but they went Out Of Production a few years ago (five, or
> more, maybe).  You can still find them at some of the hobby shops (some even
> on-line) that carry older models.  You will pay a little more than a brand
> new, current production model, but if that is what you want....  You should 
be
> able to find them in the $15-20 range with no problems, and actually you can
> get them for less if you look some.  Also try the toy, and hobby shows/swap
> meets and you can find them there also.
>
> Chris Ruper

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:22:31 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Parts and info needed for 70 W-30

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> Within the last month or two, somebody (I think it was a person on the
> list) offered me one of these, the flexible plastic chrome kind out of a

I thought these pieces were metal.

Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:20:35 -0400
From: "Etzel, Bobby" <Bobby.Etzel@GSC.GTE.Com>
Subject: RE: Olds model Stuff

I did a search for Olds and found the following information. You can do your
own search to see the pictures at:

http://marketplaza.com/cgi-bin/scodb.cgi/s=evers&uid=8666&a=c&c=&n=Automobil
ia/

61402 55 Oldsmobile 98 Starfire Convertible 43rd Scale Die Cast $6.25
8113 18Th Scale 69 OLDS W30 RETIRED PRODUCT STILL IN STOCK $24.65
7260 18TH SCALE 69 HURST OLDS DIE CAST $24.65
4075 CARRYING CASE Plastic $10.00
4549 STO-N-GO PLAY SET $15.00
T 2729 OLDS ENGINE BLUE $1.55
R 7362 SUPER CLEAN OLDS PRO STOCK $7.85
8232 69 OLDSMOBILE 442 $7.30
8232 69 OLDSMOBILE 442 $7.30
T 481 1.64 BUICK OLDS CADDY SEMI $34.25
8113N 1.18 69 OLDS W30 $18.25
6268 1.25 66 OLDS 442 W30, COMING $7.60
7848 18th Scale 69 Olds 442 Die Cast $24.65
R 2564 Hurst Hairy Olds with Linda Vaughan, Coming $13.30
P35 San Francisco, CA '69 Olds Police Car $4.25

A lot of nice "toys", but still no 70 W30  die cast. :-(

Bobby

70 442 Escape Back to the.....Past



	-----Original Message-----
	From:	B. Sanders [SMTP:blaines@strata3d.com]
	Sent:	Thursday, August 13, 1998 11:38 AM
	To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
	Subject:	RE: Olds model Stuff



	> << plus they had one which was gold
	>  with black stripes. >>
	>
	> Dammit !  I can't find this anywhere..........
	>
	> Ryan (MFatzII@aol.com)

	Oh bother.  I feel it my duty to reveal my favorite toy source to
the world.
	I've been keeping this a secret for too long now.  It's time I share
the
	wealth.

	Look here:
	
http://marketplaza.com/cgi-bin/scodb.cgi/s=evers&uid=8666&a=s&p=13962/

	If this link doesn't work, let me know.

	Blaine

	P.S. - I've ordered from these guys several times (this is where I
got my
	die cast '69 H/O) and have never had a problem.  Enjoy...  Oh, they
also
	have the '66 Cutlass 1:24 plastic model kit, too, though I don't
know if
	they have it in stock yet.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:33:27 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: G-Body Seat Question.

I don't know, but if you really want to blow someone's mind, put the bench
seat in the firebird after you take out the buckets. You'll start a three
day thread on the Pontiac page: "Bench in Bird?" :-)

If you really like the seats, it's not difficult to mount almost any seat in
any car as long as they will physically fit. I know guys that have put Dodge
Conquest seats in their A-bodied cars. No real problem. There can't be that
much difference in the Camaro/Firebird seat well and the Cutlass. I wish I
could be more help. Good luck.

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Comid <Comid>
Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 1:05 PM
Subject: G-Body Seat Question.



>However, the seats from a late 70's early 80's Camaro/Firebird in the
>high back rounded bucket seat look like they would fit.
>
>Here's my question..
>
>Has anyone dropped a set of Camaro seats (not 84-on up) onto the Cutlass
>seat mounts?
>
>If not, has anyone gotten any measurements from said seats?  My Cutlass
>appears to have a 15X15 mounting area (studs on each corner) or at least
>a round about 15X15, I went junk yard hopping this morning, and turned
>up about 6 Camaros, none with seats, and 3 F-Birds 2 missing seats, and
>one with a bench?!?!?!?  All the rest around here are 84 on up...
>--
>                - Jerry Christopher -
>IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
>       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI
>

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:46:11 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Trans fluid leak

In a message dated 98-08-12 15:28:40 EDT, you write:

<< 've had the yoke seal on the tail housing (TH400) leak when my car was
 parked pointed _up_ a hill.  The seal had worn a grove in the yoke, so
 installing a new seal didn't solve the problem; a new yoke did solve the
 problem.

 Was your car parked uphill or downhill?

 Bob
  >>

My car was parked uphill with the front end towards the top of the driveway.
There was a pretty good amount of trans oil on the ground and the car was only
there for about three hours. I'm still baffled.(BTW I have a TH400 also.
What's involved in replacing the yoke?)
Tia
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:04:17 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Parts and info needed for 70 W-30

Joe,
Instead of setting a target date of 60+ days, try something unreasonable
like September 13, the day of the Capitol City Rockets Show @ Templeton
Oldsmobile in Vienna, VA ;-)
That way you can REALLY get your shorts in a bind and not worry 'bout the
Hot Rod Power Tour, 'cause the car would already be done ahead of schedule

<hee, hee, hee.....snicker, snicker>
__________________

Geeze, Brad, at least Paul Hartlieb was going to give me until Sept 20 for
the Blue/Grey chapter meet!

BTW, don't think I haven't forgotten either show.  My completion schedule
will attempt to have interim completion stages that would at least allow
the car to be driveable to these shows.  And we all know that schedules are
_always_ met or beaten...

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:16:00 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@ee.net>
Subject: Re: Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme

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Just be sure to check the rear frame for rot.  We have a mint looking 78 =
Cutlass Supreme in our tow yard.  When you look underneath the car the =
rear frame is nearly all rotted away :-( Sounds like a decent price if =
the undercarriage is intact.

Jason Labay (jlabay@ee.net)   Akron, OH
98 Silverado C2500     88 Trans Am GTA
75 Hurst/Olds W-25    80 Olds 442 W-30
72 Cutlass Supreme Drag Car
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    very nice body ... great interior
    307 pw / pdl / pdb / ps / power seats / no air  ... price $ 1200


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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:18:44 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@ee.net>
Subject: Re: Your flamed!

My 75 H/O has the 2.56 open rear, could be part of the problem.  It just felt 
so
slow..that is why I am not in a hurry to restore it :-)

Jason Labay (jlabay@ee.net)   Akron, OH
98 Silverado C2500     88 Trans Am GTA
75 Hurst/Olds W-25    80 Olds 442 W-30
72 Cutlass Supreme Drag Car


>Why is a 1975 Cutlass Supreme reputed to be slower than a rock while a 1976 w
>a/c gots some excuse for b@lls??
>
>Its not the Rear axle diff, is it?

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:23:55 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@ee.net>
Subject: Re: G-Body Seat Question.

I never put f-body seats into my Olds, but I have found Cavalier bucket seats 
to
fit and they are nice. Mustang buckets will fit also.  Also they are ultra 
light
weight.  What amazed me is how the 85 Cavalier seats bolted up perfect to the
floor of my 72 Cutlass.  I have too much time on my hands when I am at the
towyard :-)

Jason Labay (jlabay@ee.net)   Akron, OH
98 Silverado C2500     88 Trans Am GTA
75 Hurst/Olds W-25    80 Olds 442 W-30
72 Cutlass Supreme Drag Car

>If not, has anyone gotten any measurements from said seats?  My Cutlass
>appears to have a 15X15 mounting area (studs on each corner) or at least
>a round about 15X15, I went junk yard hopping this morning, and turned
>up about 6 Camaros, none with seats, and 3 F-Birds 2 missing seats, and
>one with a bench?!?!?!?  All the rest around here are 84 on up...

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:34:56 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Trans fluid leak

In a message dated 98-08-13 13:47:38 EDT, you write:

<< My car was parked uphill with the front end towards the top of the
driveway.
 There was a pretty good amount of trans oil on the ground and the car was
only
 there for about three hours. I'm still baffled.(BTW I have a TH400 also.
 What's involved in replacing the yoke?)
 Tia
 Bruce
 75 Delta 88 conv.
  >>
     Bruce, if the case isn't cracked there are approx. only 10 places for
that transmission to leak from, and half of them are not likely. Get
underneath, wipe the transmission off, drive around for about ten minutes,
park it uphill again, and crawl underneath and watch (if it leaks as fast as
it sounds) Dipstick and cooling lines are the most common spots in my book,
and the dipstick leak can run down the top of the trans (above the pan anyway)
for a distance, so it may not look like it is leaking from there.
     If your car has a slip yoke (just splines on the output shaft) on the
rear, the transmission must be completely disassembled. If it's a regular
yoke, there is a bolt in the center which holds it to the output shaft. I
personally haven't seen a groove worn in the output shaft or yoke, but I don't
doubt it could happen.  Dorian

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:36:14 -0400
From: "Weaver, Stanleigh G" <Stanleigh.Weaver@PHL.Boeing.com>
Subject: RE: Value of 1978 Cutlass Supreme

> 	I have chance to buy 78 Cutlass Supreme ... SS wheels
> 	very nice body ... great interior
> 	307 pw / pdl / pdb / ps / power seats / no air  ... price $ 1200
>
__________________________________________________________

Jason,
I checked http://www.kbb.com and the trade-in values are as follows:

	Fair condition $545 (see page for condition description)
	Good condition $750
	Excellent condition $850

Keep in mind that these are what you could expect to get from a dealer
on a trade-in which is usually lower than buying/selling to or from
individuals.  Also, I wasn't sure of all the options or current mileage
which could change the numbers. An excellent site for determining car
value is http://www.edmunds.com however, Edmunds does not cover anything
older than 1988. hope this helps.
> 	 
>

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:44:24 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Magnum Rockers

I bought the Magnum Rocker kit from Summit for my soon to be built 455.
Mondello says the pushrods are wrong in this kit. I've seen guys on the list
that have used this kit. I'll admit that I'm suspect of some of the things
Mondello's shop says (i.e. we've got the only Edelbrock Performers cause
they're being discontinued). I suspect in this case that they want to be the
only company that sells the "right" pushrods, by declaring that everyone
else's are wrong. What are your experiences with the Comp Cams kit out there
in Oldsmoland?

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:44:24 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Magnum Rockers

I bought the Magnum Rocker kit from Summit for my soon to be built 455.
Mondello says the pushrods are wrong in this kit. I've seen guys on the list
that have used this kit. I'll admit that I'm suspect of some of the things
Mondello's shop says (i.e. we've got the only Edelbrock Performers cause
they're being discontinued). I suspect in this case that they want to be the
only company that sells the "right" pushrods, by declaring that everyone
else's are wrong. What are your experiences with the Comp Cams kit out there
in Oldsmoland?

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:00:26 PDT
From: "Robert Lavey" <rjlavey@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Trans fluid leak

The driveshaft must be removed from the rear end (unbolted), and then
the driveshaft/yoke assembly will slip out of the tailshaft of the
transmission.  You may get a bit of fluid leak out of the tailshaft when
you pull out the yoke.  Inspect the seal and the yoke before removing
the yoke from the driveshaft, as removing the yoke from the driveshaft
is not an easy task.  Mine had a definite groove worn in the yoke where
the tailshaft seal rode.  There were a couple of other suggestions
posted as to what to look for when you've got the yoke out, too.

Replacing the yoke involves removing the u-joint from the yoke and the
driveshaft and reinstalling a u-joint on the driveshaft and a different
yoke (available from your friendly neighborhood salvage yard).


>My car was parked uphill with the front end towards the top of the
driveway.
>There was a pretty good amount of trans oil on the ground and the car
was only
>there for about three hours. I'm still baffled.(BTW I have a TH400
also.
>What's involved in replacing the yoke?)
>Tia
>Bruce
>75 Delta 88 conv.
>


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:24:55 EDT
From: <GT5726@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Thrashing to get ready...

a short block is an engine, minus heads...long block is , basically, a
complete engine minus external boltons....carb, ignition...manafolds...etc etc

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:35:39 -0400
From: Todd Morris <toddmorr@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Magnum Rockers

Mondello is full of it.  I've got that exact kit, installed last summer
in my 455.  Quite pleased with it.  The included pushrods were entirely
acceptable....

Todd Morris
71 442

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:45:21 -0400
From: tgstoner@umich.edu
Subject: Re: W-30 Automatics (was HP question)

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:
> Nope.  The 1966 W-30s were all 4 spd cars.  I seem to recall that the AT
> _was_ made available in 67, and I know for sure that 68-up W-30s had a
> TH400 option.  This is the OW trans, which has the different clutch plate
> arrangement from the other TH400s.

******************
Joe,

Are you certain about this?  My 30 year old recollection from those days is
that the W-30 was first available with an automatic transmission in 1970 at
the earliest.  My first car was a '68 442 and I'm pretty certain that the
only "flavors" available that year were the 290 horsepower low-compression
"turnpike cruiser" which had an automatic, the 325 horsepower
high-compression automatic version, the 350 horsepower manual transmission
version (3-speed standard, wide or close ratio 4-speed optional), and the
360 horsepower W-30 which was a 4-speed only offering.  I might still have
the litereature in my collection to confirm this and also to give us the
information on the 1969s as well.  Is it worth digging out?

Tom Stoner
Oldsmobile Club of America #3943
Ann Arbor, MI
tgstoner@umich.edu

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:40:35 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Magnum Rockers

>I bought the Magnum Rocker kit from Summit for my soon to be built 455.
Mondello says the pushrods are wrong in this kit. What are your experiences
with the Comp Cams kit out there in Oldsmoland?



Ed,
I have the rocker kit in my 72 350 along with the 280H cam, performer rpm
intake and 750 cfm Edelbrock carb.

The pushrods are 1/4" longer than the standard pushrods. (atleast on the
350)

One warning........loctite the studs!  I had both studs in the #5 cylinder
backout while going down the track.  Bent both pushrods. My fault, in a
hurry to get kit in and to the track.

I haven't had any problems since then.

Randy

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:44:37 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: G-Body Seat Question.

>
>If you really like the seats, it's not difficult to mount almost any seat
in
>any car as long as they will physically fit.

That's the truth!!!!! My 72 Cutlass had a pair of Hyundai bucket seats in it
when I bought it.

Randy

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:52:29 -0500
From: "Smetana, Christopher" <csmetana@dowagro.com>
Subject: RE: G-Body Seat Question.

>
>I never put f-body seats into my Olds, but I have found Cavalier bucket seats
>to fit and they are nice. Mustang buckets
>will fit also.  Also they are ultra light weight.  What amazed me is how the
>85 Cavalier seats bolted up

A word of caution if you decide to use Mustang buckets, I assume you
mean 87-93 cars.  I understand the seat frames have a tendancy to bend
so it looks like someone 'from the ghetto' or something was driving, ie
meaning leaning to one side (sorry, not meaning to sterotype, but that's
the only way I could think of to describe it).  If the Mustang seats do
fit, then I don't see why any of the aftermarket buckets for a Mustang,
like Flofit or Recaro, could be considered ... well unless price is a
consideration.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
work: csmetana@dowagro.com
home: chris@abcs.com

1969 W-31 currently under the knife for tranny work
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:09:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: W-30 Automatics (was HP question)

I can confirm (because I've driven the car) that W-30s were available
with the TH-400 in 1968. The one that's in these parts was (until last
winter) a bench seat/column shift car, but the owner switched it over to
buckets/console/floor shift.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:12:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: circa 1950 to 1953 mechanical pencil for sale (fwd)

  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
  Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.

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Thought some of you might have some spare cash in your pocket for
something like this... respond to Dave at joydavid@gateway.net if this is
something you can't do without.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: joydavid <joydavid@gateway.net>
Subject: circa 1950 to 1953 mechanical pencil for sale

I have a gold colored mechanical pencil for sale 1/2 of pencil is clear
plastic with a full model 50 to 53 year auto in floating oil base so as
you use the pencil the car moves forward and backward.  Originally a give
away from Berman Sales in Sharpsburg, Pa. Again not quite sure of the
year, might be 48 to 50 also.  Any interest for a collector, please e-mail
or pass on to anyone who may be interested.  I've never seen one at any
pen or pencil shows in years.

would like to get $28.00 plus $2.00 shipping, also have an AMOCO permalube
service and a Federal rocolene oil pencils with real oil encased in the
plastic also, on those two the price would be 18.00 each plus $2.00 for
shipping.  If you are still interested in the olds pencil or all, let me
know.

Dave Ondulick

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:34:37 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: Cheap 442 Convert ads

In my search for a Convertible project, I came across these seemingly
excellent deals.  Unfortunately, they are way too far away from me...
(Usual disclaimer applies)

1968 OLDSMOBILE 442 convertible, 400 motor, 350 transmission, was 4-speed,
have setup, new paint, carpet, weather strips, suspension, all orog., except
wheels & exhaust, nice driver, getting married, must sell, $1000 or best
offer, 941-505-1673.
Location: Punta Gorda, FL

1969 OLDSMOBILE 442 CONVERTIBLE, project CAR, tired of working on it, many
many new parts, minus motor and transmission, $850 LOUISVILLE (330)454-4890
525-RC-33WO01-35
Location: Louisville, OH

- -Blaine

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:30:58 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: W-30 Automatics (was HP question)

> Are you certain about this?  My 30 year old recollection from those days is
> that the W-30 was first available with an automatic transmission in 1970 at
> the earliest.

Joe and Greg are right on the money, as usual.  I don't recall the code
for the 67, but I passed on what seemed to be an all original, auto
equipped 67 W-30 years ago (one of those "wish I had done differently"
things).  As for certain that the 67 in fact WAS available with an
auto...not 100% sure.  But for certain, the OW coded TH400 was the
tranny of choice for the 68 W-30/H-O, and the 69-71 W-30s.  69 H/O used
an "OH", but was ORIGINALLY slated for the OW until a last minute
change.

Reflections...
Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:32:07 -0400
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: A great injustice?

Hey all,  I need some opinionated advice.

I just started doing some work on my '69 442.  Presently, its and all
original, matching numbers car...and that's great.  I'm not sure what
route to go however...and I know this was a topic on the list a while
back.  I guess it all goes back to the restoration vs. modification vs.
restification.  I want to keep the 400 in it, no 455 for me.  I plan to
have the car be a "summer driver" and that's it.  A few shows here and
there, the stip on Saturday night...it's not going to be a trailer
queen, drag racer, or daily driver. I hope you get the hint.  Now would
I be doing a great injustive by outfitting the car with a rear
spoiler...you 69 H/O type or I believe it was titled the W-35 option
(don't crucify me if I'm wrong on this one)?  Now, the car will stay the
orig. royal Tropy blue color with the parchment white roof and
interior...but I just think the spolier makes it look excellent.  I know
this is totally a matter of opinion...but I trust you guys...what do
y'all think?

Thanks alot

Daniel R. Gerow
68 4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:16:17 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Nascar

could have been dale earnhardt at one point he drove a mid 70s olds
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ed Binnix <comid@jellico.com>
To: Olds list <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 8:13 AM
Subject: Olds Nascar


>I'm helping a friend of mine duplicate a '75 Nascar Winston Cup Cutlass. I
>know nothing about Nascar earlier than the mid-eighties. Does any one know
>who was driving Oldsmobiles on the Cutlass platform in '75? Where can I
find
>pictures of these cars?
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:23:10 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: fender patch panels

not that I'm an originality freak but the fibreglass usually doesnt fit
worth cr*p and they lack durability they crack pretty quick then they dont
have any structure in them to speak of so the cracks will play connect the
dots with the mounting holes...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ed Binnix <comid@jellico.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: fender patch panels


>go fiberglass! $259 :-)
>(just trying to get flamed from the originality freaks)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>To: Comid <Comid>
>Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 11:08 AM
>Subject: Re: fender patch panels
>
>
>>
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>>Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:54:20 -0400
>>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>>From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
>>Subject: Re: fender patch panels
>>X-Orcpt: rfc822;"|/csuite/etc/majordomo/wrapper resend -l oldsmobile -h
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>>Precedence: bulk
>>Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>>
>>>I'm getting my 1970 Cutlass 'S' repainted pretty soon.  I've been
>>>looking for a set of fenders (mine are rusted out in the comon spot),
>>>but reproductions are not to be found, NOS is way too expensive, and
>>>any used ones that I could get have had damage in the same area.  I've
>>>decided to go with patch panels.  Where have any of you gotten patch
>>>panels, and what were the results?  I think I saw some in Year One for
>>>about $85 for the pair.  Either that or does anyone have a set of rust
>>>free fenders that you'd like to get rid of for a reasonable price?
>>
>>Just be aware that the patch panels don't include any of the inner
>>structure of the fender (which usually rusts right along with the outer
>>surface), so that might have to be fabricated for extra $$.
>>
>>You might try Auto Body Specialties in Middlefield, CT. They carry
>>rust-free used fenders for around $300. I thought this was too high, until
>>I found out what NOS fenders were going for... :(
>>__________________________________________________________
>>Bob Barry                MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
>>1969 Toronado-  See at http://www.toronado.org/drbob69.htm
>>1970 Cutlass Supreme SX  and  1978 Electra  and  a
>>1988 Grand Wagoneer which can be seen at-
>>http://www.off-road.com/~ifsja/readers/wagoneers/barry.htm
>>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:43:32 -0400
From: Steve Ochs <Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com>
Subject: Carbs.

Message text written by Bob Barry
> Still, though, the carb #
isn't always a firm clue as to the year of the engine.<

Yes, you are right.  What I should have originally said is the carb. number
would show what type of heads should be on the engine, which was different
depending on the year(s)

Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma, Ohio
Transmission Division (4T60/65-E & 4L60-E) - Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com
The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division

'96 DCM Impala SS (Naisso #1365)  '87 Olds Cutlass 442 (OCA #028505)

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:41:28 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Cheap 442 Convert ads

> 1968 OLDSMOBILE 442 convertible, 400 motor, 350 transmission, was 4-speed,
> have setup, new paint, carpet, weather strips, suspension, all orog., except
> wheels & exhaust, nice driver, getting married, must sell, $1000 or best
> offer, 941-505-1673.
> Location: Punta Gorda, FL


Since this one was SORTA close to me, I called.  Hold the truck, Leroy,
the price is a misprint.  The poor guy's phone's been ringing off the
hook ever since....add another 0 to that.  $10K is the actual price.
But, someone from Orlando is on their way with a truck as we spoke to
pick it up.

Oh well....

Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:46:36 EDT
From: <KWhite5590@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Some e-mail etiquette

you are grouchy... short enough?

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:10 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: A great injustice?

> I be doing a great injustive by outfitting the car with a rear
> spoiler...you 69 H/O type or I believe it was titled the W-35 option
> (don't crucify me if I'm wrong on this one)?

Here's MY suggestion.  If you're original trunk lid is in excellent
shape, then go get ANOTHER lid to poke the holes in for the spoiler.
Then, all you gotta do is switch lids when the need arises.   Just a
thought.  Remember you might have to re-adjust the spring tension
between lids if you do that.  The spoiler adds some weight.

Opinion.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:33:29 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Trans fluid leak

the yoke on these things sometimes have a small hole in the back under where
the u-joint would be for whatever reason Ive seen these suddenly start to
leak in this area the fix was to remove the driveline and fill the dimple
and small hole with jb weld after a thourough cleaning with gumout strangest
thing I ve ever seen...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Lavey <rjlavey@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Trans fluid leak


>The driveshaft must be removed from the rear end (unbolted), and then
>the driveshaft/yoke assembly will slip out of the tailshaft of the
>transmission.  You may get a bit of fluid leak out of the tailshaft when
>you pull out the yoke.  Inspect the seal and the yoke before removing
>the yoke from the driveshaft, as removing the yoke from the driveshaft
>is not an easy task.  Mine had a definite groove worn in the yoke where
>the tailshaft seal rode.  There were a couple of other suggestions
>posted as to what to look for when you've got the yoke out, too.
>
>Replacing the yoke involves removing the u-joint from the yoke and the
>driveshaft and reinstalling a u-joint on the driveshaft and a different
>yoke (available from your friendly neighborhood salvage yard).
>
>
>>My car was parked uphill with the front end towards the top of the
>driveway.
>>There was a pretty good amount of trans oil on the ground and the car
>was only
>>there for about three hours. I'm still baffled.(BTW I have a TH400
>also.
>>What's involved in replacing the yoke?)
>>Tia
>>Bruce
>>75 Delta 88 conv.
>>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:56:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: A great injustice?

Personal opinion? OK, here goes...

I really don't like the rear wing on these cars. Especially if the car is
nicely original otherwise. But the wing doesn't do a thing for me
appearance-wise anyway, regardless of the quality of the car it's on. I
wouldn't let one near my 4-4-2 (if I had one, that is...) ;-)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:58:06 EDT
From: <KWhite5590@aol.com>
Subject: Re: G-Body Seat Question.

>Has anyone dropped
I installed a set of 81 fagmero seats in my 83 ,the mero frames are narrower
than the CUTLASS rails.If you really want to use them the bolt holes will need
to be elongated on your CUTLASS mounts(rails on mero buckets also too narrow
for your studs).Please E-mail me directly if you need to know more.Also I can
probably find you Cutlass seats in my area.
Kevin
Kwhite5590@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:20:22 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Your flamed!

Ed Binnix wrote:
>
> My wife had a '74 Cutlass 350/350 back in the early eighties. Her father had
> maintained it meticulously since new. Yes . . . SLOW!
>

HEY!! Mine's a '73 CS 350/350/2.73 open!! I could still walk an '87
C*ugar XR7, an '88 Blunderbird, and almost an '86 M*nte Super Slow. I
would have beat him had he had higher than 3.73 gears. I think any car
that can run faster than 17's is not slow. I might change my thinking
when I get my car back and experience 320hp/3.42 posi compared to
180hp/2.73 open.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:59:52 -0400
From: Jeffrey lane <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: wow

Ok...  I finally did it.  I have had the 67 Toro for two weeks now, and
havent been too abusive.  I havent raced anyone...  havent mashed the
gas pedal too often...  I have been really good to her...  but tonight I
had to find out...

I pulled onto my street (well it is kinda in the woods) and when I came
to the last straight stretch before the turn into my neighborhood, I
stopped.  this is a straight piece of road, roughly 200 yards long...
and it runs uphill at abotu 7 to 15 degrees...

So from a stop, I floored it...  I swear that the tires actually spun
for at least 100 yards...  if not more...  I am surprised I even have
tires left on the front...  heh heh...  what can I say, I couldnt
resist.

By the way, do any of you have a pic of a Gen 1 Toro with 255 tires on
it?  and is it bad to put 255's on them, if I am gonna go to shows and
such?

thanks y'all.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:52:23 -0400
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@pa.net>
Subject: Thanks : blown tailight  fuses fixed

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Problem is still not quite confirmed.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:07:17 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Trans fluid leak

In a message dated 98-08-13 16:51:15 EDT, you write:

<< the yoke on these things sometimes have a small hole in the back under
where
 the u-joint would be for whatever reason Ive seen these suddenly start to
 leak in this area the fix was to remove the driveline and fill the dimple
 and small hole with jb weld after a thourough cleaning with gumout strangest
 thing I ve ever seen...kk >>
     Kerry, you are right! I remember my friends Turbo 350 doing the exact
same thing. All of a sudden HUGE slick under and around the car. That's where
it was coming from. Anyone know why the hole is there?  Dorian

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:59:34 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: A great injustice?

>I be doing a great injustive by outfitting the car with a rear
>spoiler...you 69 H/O type or I believe it was titled the W-35 option
>(don't crucify me if I'm wrong on this one)?  Now, the car will stay the
>orig. royal Tropy blue color with the parchment white roof and
>interior...but I just think the spolier makes it look excellent.  I know
>this is totally a matter of opinion...but I trust you guys...what do
>y'all think?
>

I think it would look nice :)
__
Bob.
'66 Vista Cruiser
(rebuilt, not restored)

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:05:56 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Distributor Woes

>Congratulations! I wonder whether adopting the slide-hammer technique as
>the standard recommended procedure for distributor removal might save
>people on the list some grief and anguish over broken distributors. Where
>is a safe, non-damaging location to attach a slide-hammer on a distributor?

I think I am the only one here that has good luck with distrubutors.

Mine died so a went to a junk yard and got a replacement ('66 toro)
and it came right out. I just unbolted the one on my '66 330 and it came
right out.

Please, no one hit me :)

maybe its a '66 thing.
__
Bob.
'66 Vista Cruiser
(rebuilt, not restored)

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:09:43 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: wow

>So from a stop, I floored it...  I swear that the tires actually spun
>for at least 100 yards...  if not more...  I am surprised I even have
>tires left on the front...  heh heh...  what can I say, I couldnt
>resist.

Try it at a red light. The look on other peoples faces, when they see a FWD
car
Smoke the tires for about 1/2 a block, is just priceless.

watch out for cops :(
__
Bob.
'66 Vista Cruiser
(rebuilt, not restored)

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:14:08 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Gross vs Net(SAE) HP

      This is about as definitive as I could find on this subject in print.
Gross was measured on dynonometer with cool, dry air, tuned headers, and no
alternator, fan, etc. Doesn't say exactly how net is measured though. The
article goes on to say that Net HP figures are right about 80% of Gross.
Dorian

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:14:07 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Nascar

Ed,

I can't remember anyone racing a Cutlass in NASCAR before the 76 / 77 year
body style became popular, which was really after 77.  NASCAR allowed GM teams
to use older models for a few years, a practice that now never gets done,
there's just too much of a disadvantage to it.

However, some of the teams that were known to race Olds-bodied cars during
that time were:
#43 Richard Petty (like anyone didn't know that)
#2 Dale Earnhardt (Mike Curb Racing)
#3 Richard Childress (yes, Richard raced the car before hiring Dale E.)
#29? Cale Yarborough
#1 Donnie Allison
#28 Buddy Baker

along with others I can't remember right now.  Oh, there's some guy named
Snyder who raced a '77 Cutlass/442 bodied car around here in '92.  You can see
that one here:
 <A HREF="http://www.chasinracin.com/racers/ksr7/index.htm">Ken Snyder Racing
Online</A>

That's all I can think of right now.  Hope this helps.
Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:21:16 -0000
From: "MICHAEL A VAUGHAN" <MMVAUGHAN@prodigy.net>
Subject: 1962 olsd f85

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