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oldsmobile-digest      Friday, September 4 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1464



availability of Convertible glass rear window?
Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script
Re: dumb question
Re: OIL PRESSURE GAGE
Re: dumb question
Re: dumb question
Re: availability of Convertible glass rear window?
Re: Fuel pump blockoff?
What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Re: OIL PRESSURE GAGE
C-4
Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965
Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script
Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script
Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script
Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script
Re: C-4
RE: Oil Pressure / Oil Cooler
car show-Englishtown, NJ
Re: car show-Englishtown, NJ
Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965
Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965
Re: cheaper olds books!
Finish line
Englishtown
Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965
Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965
Re: Englishtown
Re: Finish line
Re: Finish line
skewed artwork was Re: Finish line
Fender Skirt needed
Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
in despair for: trunk floor
Re: Underhood fiberglass mat
Synthetic 15W-50?
Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
Re: Jeep/Olds/ignition ?
Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
how to lap valve seats / fuel question
Re: My City
66 Toro -- look familiar to anyone... (was: Oldsmobile Parts Supp ly info)
Re: Synthetic 15W-50?
Re: Underhood fiberglass mat
installing sport mirrors
Re: Underhood fiberglass mat
Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965
Re: installing sport mirrors
Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Re: Synthetic 15W-50?
Re: how to lap valve seats / fuel question
Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Re: installing sport mirrors
Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
69 88 to 72 98 , rear bumber change
The General's store
Re: Sport Mirrors
Re: The General's store
Re: OIL PRESSURE GAGE
Olds
Re: Finish line
Re: 69 88 to 72 98 , rear bumber change
Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Cutlass
car show
Re: Jeep/Olds/ignition ?
73 - 76 Parts
Re: Jeep/Olds/ignition ?
Re: 73 - 76 Parts
Re: [Toro] 66 Toro -- look familiar to anyone... (was: Oldsmobile Parts Supp ly
info) 72 Supreme Re: Finish line 350 to 455 swap Re: Synthetic 15W-50?

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Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:11:27 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: availability of Convertible glass rear window?

I looked at a 73 delta 88 Convertible today.
the convertible top had a glass rear window in it, but it was cracked.
This was the first convertible I've seen with a glass window instead of
a plastic one. Are these hard to find replacements for?
The car was only $900 and Really caught my eye :)

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:16:34 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script

To add a true story to this from 'round here, today a guy got 22 years for
killing someone in a DUI accident.  Crossed the median and hit another vehicle
head-on doing about 65 MPH, for a total impact speed of over 120 MPH.  After
the accident this guy acted as if nothing was wrong, wait until Bubba gets
ahold of him.............

Take Care, and Be Safe (Please!),
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:26:35 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: dumb question

Bruce,

My 70 Cutlass Supreme SX came with that combination from the factory, along
with a 2.56 rear gear.  She'd do over 120 given enough space to let her loose
(dry lakes in California, supervised time trials).

Just a little nugget o'info, Take Care!
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:44:34 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: OIL PRESSURE GAGE

Wayne,

I thought someone else had responded, but since not, I will (sorry I didn't
sooner).  First, try to tighten the clip on the sender wire to the sender
itself, see if you can get to fit tighter.  Also, look over carefully the wire
from the sender to the harness feed-through.  One little break inside the
insulation might do this, if so, you'll have to replace the wire.

If you need any other help with this, E-mail me directly.

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 04:27:07 -0700
From: "Dieter R Schafer" <dieter@3-cities.com>
Subject: Re: dumb question

What do you think is a fair price for a 70 Cutlass  thinking of getting one
from a  around the couner from me!
Dieter R. Schafer
77 Olds Toronado, Owner
ICQ # 5180073 Or ICQ # 15373222

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 04:39:43 -0700
From: "Dieter R Schafer" <dieter@3-cities.com>
Subject: Re: dumb question

I do not think it is such dumb question Just paid $100.00 for a car that
only had 89,000 miles on it and the old lady just wanted it out of her yard!
 and I did asked questions about it!
 Apairtentley you are not a old  person ???????
 Dieter R. Schafer
77 Olds Toronado, Owner
ICQ # 5180073 Or ICQ # 15373222

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:56:24 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: availability of Convertible glass rear window?

In a message dated 98-09-03 00:28:00 EDT, you write:

<< I looked at a 73 delta 88 Convertible today.
 the convertible top had a glass rear window in it, but it was cracked.
 This was the first convertible I've seen with a glass window instead of
 a plastic one. Are these hard to find replacements for?
 The car was only $900 and Really caught my eye :)
  >>

New rear glass will run between  $200-400 installed, depending on where you
get it from, but readily available.
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:19:35 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Fuel pump blockoff?

 I heard once that when removing the fuel pump, one must be careful to not
"let the cam pin fall out when removing the fuel pump eccentric".  What
the?
    I've replaced a few fuel pumps in Olds engines, and nothing ever fell
out.  Is the fuel pump eccentric just the name for the long arm that sticks
in the block?
   Question is, can't I just remove the pump and bolt on a block off plate
in its place and be done with it?  Thanks.
_________________

I think we're confusing two different things here.  First, on _Chevy_
motors there is a fuel pump pushrod which will fall out of the block when
you remove the pump.  Olds has nothing like this, so don't worry about it.

On the other hand, if you are planning to use an electric fuel pump on your
Olds, you may be tempted to leave the fuel pump eccentric off.  This is the
stamped steel cam which goes on the front of the cam gear and which works
the mechanical fuel pump.  This eccentric has a tab which fits into the
locating pin hole in the cam gear and which thus prevents this locating pin
from vibrating out (and thus allowing the cam gear to freewheel on the
cam).  The message is that even if you don't plan to run a mechanical pump,
you _must_ install the fuel pump eccentric when installing the timing gear
to properly retain the pin.  If you haven't had the front cover of the
engine off, don't worry about it, just pull the mechanical pump and use an
electric.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:29:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: hitson@leadbelt.com (roger hitson)
Subject: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

Must be something widely known, but not by me.

reh

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 06:45:48 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: OIL PRESSURE GAGE

> The needle of my oil pressure gage (69 Cutlass ralley pac) has
> started fluctuating rapidly from engine start-up until the engine
> warms up and then it stabilizes to indicate a normal pressure
> reading.  The fluctuation is aggrevated if I'm driving on a rough
> road and when accelerating.

I would certainly check the connection at the sending unit first,
as well as the condition of the sending unit itself. Everything
else in the circuit is usually pretty stable, but the sending
unit is riding on the engine, pretty rough at the best of times.
It's not at all unusual for the sending unit to fail after a few
years. If it's wet with oil on the outside, it's history.

I agree with what the other posts said Re: diagnosis. You should
be able to get to the bottom of this.

- -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:47:46 -0400
From: RAY.COSTANZO@firstunion.com
Subject: C-4

TO: Softswitch.OAS
CC:
FROM: RAY.COSTANZO@TAOFUN1
SUBJECT:  C-4

   C-4 is an explosive, like that flew down the elevator shaft in DieH
   ard.  Or it's also a F*rd auto trans.  I din't read the thread, so
   I guess someone was talking about one of these two things.

















































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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 06:51:01 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965

> The big problem with a car that old {trust me here!:(  } is
> that nearly everything is shot under the front end.  Control arm
> bushings, ball joints, shocks, springs, inner and outer tie rod
> ends, wheel bearings, center link, idler arm...  Add it all up,
> and you're ~easily~ into it for $500+.
[...]
> ~Most~ reputable shops would have sent you right back out the
> door a year ago, saying "I won't touch it" unless they are
> allowed to fix everything correctly, which happens to be a ~lot~
> of Benjamins...

Very true. But for the do-it-yourselfers in this circumstance,
what one replacement would give the most immediate improvement?
I'm thinking tie rod ends or idler arm. Just wondering...

- -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:32:24 -0400
From: "Johnny Gage" <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script

OK...  my turn...  and my 2 cents worth...  People like this really p*ss me
off.  Three years ago, a 17 year old boy drove into a small neighborhood at
approx 80 miles an hour, and his BAC was about three times the legal limit
in virginia.  He hit a woman as she was walking down the street.  SAhe wasnt
in a car, he just smeared her.  My crew did everything we could, and it
wasn't enough.  She died in front of her husband, AND her two kids.  They
witnessed it.

This kid got a slap on the wrist, and is now a med student at UVa.  This is
one instance where if I had gotten ahold of him, he would not be among the
living right now.  He has shown no real remorse for this, and in fact really
doesn't give a d*mn.  This kind of thing makes me sick.  And it frightens
me.

Oh...  I'll stop ranting now...
- -----Original Message-----
From: KS7RACING@aol.com <KS7RACING@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script


>To add a true story to this from 'round here, today a guy got 22 years for
>killing someone in a DUI accident.  Crossed the median and hit another
vehicle
>head-on doing about 65 MPH, for a total impact speed of over 120 MPH.
After
>the accident this guy acted as if nothing was wrong, wait until Bubba gets
>ahold of him.............
>
>Take Care, and Be Safe (Please!),
>Ken Snyder
>Kansas City, Kansas
>

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:29:51 EDT
From: Supafli50@aol.com
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

C-4 is a for of military explosive.  Is in a form like putty but is detenated
with an electrical charge.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 07:35:09 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script

> This kid got a slap on the wrist, and is now a med student
> at UVa.  This is one instance where if I had gotten ahold
> of him, he would not be among the living right now.  He has
> shown no real remorse for this, and in fact really doesn't
> give a d*mn.  This kind of thing makes me sick.

There is always the civil suit; if the victim's family isn't
suing this jerk for a bazillion dollars, I'd like to know why.
Cases like this are what land sharks were invented for.

- -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:41:37 -0600
From: Edward Pittman <edward@gdar.org>
Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script

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My turn. This is a bad joke only, so don't hate me for this.

It's about this guy I ran into who would have been a former coworker of a woman
who once almost lived next door to me. One day he was speeding through a school
zone, going at least 163.678 mph in his sidepipe-equipped 1978 Mustang II. He
was high on paint thinner and had been shooting up Sterno since early that
morning. He plowed through a crosswalk and turned 23 Campfire Girls into road
paste. Not only did he express no remorse, he laughed maniacally when told of
his deed and began leaping about like a deranged elf in the inexorable grip of
a jar-of-Tang-sized sugar buzz. When we arrived on the scene he was rolling
about in what was left of the girls. We put him in the van, drove out to the
country, hung him from a tree by parts I shall not name, and played "piņata"
for a while with him using tire irons and tree branches while singing "Camptown
Races" (accompanied by some terrific flamenco guitar playing by my coworker,
Schmedly) and telling ghost stories. This story is true. Really.

THE END

Johnny Gage wrote:

> OK...  my turn...  and my 2 cents worth...  People like this really p*ss me
> off.  Three years ago, a 17 year old boy drove into a small neighborhood at
> approx 80 miles an hour, and his BAC was about three times the legal limit
> in virginia.  He hit a woman as she was walking down the street.  SAhe wasnt
> in a car, he just smeared her.  My crew did everything we could, and it
> wasn't enough.  She died in front of her husband, AND her two kids.  They
> witnessed it.
>
> This kid got a slap on the wrist, and is now a med student at UVa.  This is
> one instance where if I had gotten ahold of him, he would not be among the
> living right now.  He has shown no real remorse for this, and in fact really
> doesn't give a d*mn.  This kind of thing makes me sick.  And it frightens
> me.
>
> Oh...  I'll stop ranting now...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KS7RACING@aol.com <KS7RACING@aol.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script
>
> >To add a true story to this from 'round here, today a guy got 22 years for
> >killing someone in a DUI accident.  Crossed the median and hit another
> vehicle
> >head-on doing about 65 MPH, for a total impact speed of over 120 MPH.
> After
> >the accident this guy acted as if nothing was wrong, wait until Bubba gets
> >ahold of him.............
> >
> >Take Care, and Be Safe (Please!),
> >Ken Snyder
> >Kansas City, Kansas
> >



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My turn. This is a bad joke only, so <B>don't hate me for this.</B>

<P>It's about this guy I ran into who would have been a former coworker
of a woman who once almost lived next door to me. One day he was speeding
through a school zone, going at least 163.678 mph in his sidepipe-equipped
1978 Mustang II. He was high on paint thinner and had been shooting up
Sterno since early that morning. He plowed through a crosswalk and turned
23 Campfire Girls into road paste. Not only did he express no remorse,
he laughed maniacally when told of his deed and began leaping about like
a deranged elf in the inexorable grip of a jar-of-Tang-sized sugar buzz.
When we arrived on the scene he was rolling about in what was left of the
girls. We put him in the van, drove out to the country, hung him from a
tree by parts I shall not name, and played "pi&ntilde;ata" for a while
with him using tire irons and tree branches while singing "Camptown Races"
(accompanied by some terrific flamenco guitar playing by my coworker, Schmedly)
and telling ghost stories. This story is true. Really.

<P>THE END

<P>Johnny Gage wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>OK...&nbsp; my turn...&nbsp; and my 2 cents 
worth...&nbsp;
People like this really p*ss me
<BR>off.&nbsp; Three years ago, a 17 year old boy drove into a small
neighborhood at <BR>approx 80 miles an hour, and his BAC was about three times
the legal limit <BR>in virginia.&nbsp; He hit a woman as she was walking down
the street.&nbsp; SAhe wasnt <BR>in a car, he just smeared her.&nbsp; My crew
did everything we could, and it <BR>wasn't enough.&nbsp; She died in front of
her husband, AND her two kids.&nbsp; They <BR>witnessed it.

<P>This kid got a slap on the wrist, and is now a med student at UVa.&nbsp;
This is
<BR>one instance where if I had gotten ahold of him, he would not be among
the
<BR>living right now.&nbsp; He has shown no real remorse for this, and
in fact really
<BR>doesn't give a d*mn.&nbsp; This kind of thing makes me sick.&nbsp;
And it frightens
<BR>me.

<P>Oh...&nbsp; I'll stop ranting now...
<BR>-----Original Message-----
<BR>From: KS7RACING@aol.com &lt;KS7RACING@aol.com>
<BR>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca &lt;oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
<BR>Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 11:30 PM
<BR>Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script

<P>>To add a true story to this from 'round here, today a guy got 22 years
for
<BR>>killing someone in a DUI accident.&nbsp; Crossed the median and hit
another
<BR>vehicle
<BR>>head-on doing about 65 MPH, for a total impact speed of over 120 MPH.
<BR>After
<BR>>the accident this guy acted as if nothing was wrong, wait until Bubba
gets
<BR>>ahold of him.............
<BR>>
<BR>>Take Care, and Be Safe (Please!),
<BR>>Ken Snyder
<BR>>Kansas City, Kansas
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:25:36 -0400
From: "Johnny Gage" <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script

There was...  and the family was awarded a couple million or so...  I
think...  at least that is what they sued for...  but the point is, this kid
gets to go to med school, and this all disappears from his record when he
turns 21, while the family will never fully recover from the loss.  Money
doesn't matter.  What price is a life, especially an innocent one.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew C. Green <acg_o@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: DON'T SPEED - Post script


>> This kid got a slap on the wrist, and is now a med student
>> at UVa.  This is one instance where if I had gotten ahold
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>
>There is always the civil suit; if the victim's family isn't
>suing this jerk for a bazillion dollars, I'd like to know why.
>Cases like this are what land sharks were invented for.
>
>-- Andy
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:43:25 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: C-4

C-4 is an explosive and by fate it makes it a VERY appropriate name for the
Ford transmission.

- -----Original Message-----

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:04:13 -0500
From: "Johnson, Sam" <SAJOHNSON@usds.com>
Subject: RE: Oil Pressure / Oil Cooler

I was on the expressway last night and I was at about 3 grand on the tack
with my 4.10's. I use a blend on synthetic and regular oil. My oil pressure
was at 50 and I was at 3 grand for about an hour too.  Must be the good oil
huh.
======================
Sam E. Johnson, JR.
>  <mailto:Cutlass403@ameritech.net> Cutlass403@ameritech.net
>1971 Cutlass S 455
>Westside! Chitown IL
17 Wins 13 Losses
======================


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Tom Lentz [SMTP:tlentz@ior.com]
	Sent:	Monday, August 31, 1998 10:06 AM
	To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
	Subject:	Re: Oil Pressure / Oil Cooler

	It has been normal in the Old's I've owned to drop about 5 lbs on
	extended freeway drives.  I say *has* because I've found a solution,
	synthetic oil.  My theory is that the oil is getting hot and the
	viscocity is breaking down, and synthetic oil doesn't do that.

	Now, the big question is was that 5 psi drop really hurting
anything?
	Probably not.

	Tom Lentz
	tlentz@ior.com


	

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:04:12 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: car show-Englishtown, NJ

Anybody heading out to Englishtown this Sunday. Just learned there's an all
Odsmobile/Buick Show!. Should be lots of  yummy parts. I'll be  taking the
Delta with the enormous trunk in case I see a nice 442 for sale.
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:08:39 EDT
From: SHELTERMEN@aol.com
Subject: Re: car show-Englishtown, NJ

Thanks for the info.  I'll be there!
Tim

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:11:08 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965

In a message dated 98-09-02 12:03:41 EDT, you write:

<< This does sound like a camber problem, but it could also be a toe out
problem.  If your tires are pointed outboard, the inboard edges would be
"dragging" and causing wear.  Or, it might be a combination of the two. >>

Karl forgot to mention two things. No, three.

1) Front-end damage after last alignment.

2) Previous owner replaced one of the tie rods. Maybe he even used the right
one. The tire mechs said rods looked fine (made point of asking about rod and
camber).

3) would weak springs and non-functional shocks cause bad camber when properly
aligned? Such as the ones on my car?

4) [OK actually 4 things] Manual says Toe Out probs can be due to caster,
camber (both shim conditions) or toe-in misalignment.

5) [Hah! There is NO #5!!]

Thanks!

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:14:52 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965

In a message dated 98-09-02 15:18:07 EDT, you write:

<< Depends.  If it's a smooth, constant wear, it's likely camber misalignment.
If the tread blocks on the edge of the tread are unevenly worn (leading edge
higher than trailing edge, for example), it could be toe misalignment. >>

Rrrrrrmm.

[Karl: "Tread blocks on the edge of the tread?"]

Do you mean "feathered" tread surface?

SOM
&KA

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:22:40 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: cheaper olds books!

In a message dated 98-09-02 13:09:25 EDT, you write:

<< motorbooks.com and found a bunch of nice books then i want to
barnesandnoble@aol.com >>

Karl expects Amazon.com prices to be similar to B&N@LOL.com

Plus Karl can attest to Amazon carrying the Roe carb book, a Haynes Roch book,
the TH400 book.........

SOM
&KA

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:33:09 -0500
From: "Johnson, Sam" <SAJOHNSON@usds.com>
Subject: Finish line

I went to the track for the first time yesterday, had lots of fun and ran a
good time too. My question, is where the finish line?  I was assuming that
it was the time lights but I don't know if that was right.
======================
Sam E. Johnson, JR.
>  <mailto:Cutlass403@ameritech.net> Cutlass403@ameritech.net
>1971 Cutlass S 455
>Westside! Chitown IL
17 Wins 13 Losses
======================

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:49:10 -0400
From: RAY.COSTANZO@firstunion.com
Subject: Englishtown

TO: Softswitch.OAS
CC:
FROM: RAY.COSTANZO@TAOFUN1
SUBJECT:  Englishtown

   YES]  If someone can give me directions from the JErsey turnpike, R
   iver Road, or New Hope, I'll be there.  Thanks]
   If you see a 87 Cutlass with 442 paint scheme, C*dillac Dark Cherry
    over C*rysl*r Platinum with "409 Rocket" decals where you'd expect
    to see "442", say hi to Ray.

   Ray Costanzo
   87 409 Cutlass
   ray.costanzo@firstunion.com











































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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:18:04 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965

5) [Hah! There is NO #5!!]
____________

"Our main weapon is fear.  Fear and surprise, our two main weapons..."

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:18:58 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965

Rrrrrrmm.

[Karl: "Tread blocks on the edge of the tread?"]

Do you mean "feathered" tread surface?
_____________

Yes.  A better choice of word.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:25:16 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Englishtown

In a message dated 98-09-03 12:51:35 EDT, you write:

<<
    YES]  If someone can give me directions from the JErsey turnpike, R
    iver Road, or New Hope, I'll be there.  Thanks] >>

Real easy. NJ tpke South to exit 8A. take 522 eas to Englishtown.
Bruce
75 delta 88 conv.

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:25:09 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Finish line

I went to the track for the first time yesterday, had lots of fun and ran a
good time too. My question, is where the finish line?  I was assuming that
it was the time lights but I don't know if that was right.
_____________

Actually, it's not - which leads to the fact that ET and MPH have no direct
connection in a drag race.  The finish line is exactly 1320 ft from the
starting line.  A set of photocells at the start and finish lines measure
ET (in addition to the winner, which is the first car across the line,
reguardless of the ET).  The MPH traps are a separate set of photocells,
typically 60 ft before and 60 ft after the finish line.  MPH is measured by
measuring the time it takes to cross this 120 ft trap and taking the
average MPH over that distance.  As a result, two cars with identical ETs
could have widely varying MPH if the first one shut down at the finish line
and the second one drove the car all the way through the MPH traps.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:38:55 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com>
Subject: Re: Finish line

For those who do not know.  The finish line at the drag strip is the last set
of lights in a two light set up.  In the days of old (showing age again) most
timing equipment used three sets of lights at the end.  The first and third
sets were used to determine mph, while the second set was the actual finish
line.  This style did not give an accurate mph unless the driver kept
accelerating through all the lights.  In most cases the driver would lift at
the finish giving a slower than expected mph.  The new style mentioned at the
first have two sets of lights at the end of the track.  The first set starts
the mph timer, the second set is the finish line and also pulls double duty by
stopping the mph timer.

new style        mph                finish/mph
                  o                            o
 __travel___\    I                              I
                        /    I                              I
                             o                            o

old style        mph                       finish                    mph
                  o                            o                           o
 __travel___\    I                              I
I
                        /    I                              I
I
                             o                            o
o

Dave (no Picaso) Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:48:19 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com>
Subject: skewed artwork was Re: Finish line

I apologize if my "artwork" came out bad on your pc like it just did on mine.
The diagram was suppose to resemble the lights at the end of the strip.
As I said, no Picaso.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:15:43 -0400
From: "VBDeveloper" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Fender Skirt needed

I need a left(driver's) side fender skirt for a '69 Ninety-Eight. Also,
looking for seats, steering wheel or whole steering column WITH tilt.

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:59:42 -0400
From: "VBDeveloper" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info

I have purchased some rubber and interior trim from them. Quality is OK,
but what a selection of hard to find trim and such.
	Allan

- ----------
> From: Jason Adcock <rocketolds@vt.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 08:47 PM
>
> I haven't had any experience with this place.  Has anyone else on the
list?
> I do live right near there, so I might see if they have a showroom or
> something, when I go back home, that is.
>
> Jason Adcock
> mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
> http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: krzy4evr@usit.net <krzy4evr@usit.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 6:40 PM
> Subject: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
>
>
> Jason..............
>       Do you have any input on this place? Did you have any dealings
> while living in No. Va??? Also, do they offer a catalog?? Heck, I'll
> just give 'em a call tomorrow...!!!
>
>
> Never mind...!!
>
> Mike.............
> ************************************************************
> > This is a pretty good supplier for parts - I was able to get a number
> > for brightwork pieces and other parts for my convertible.
> >
> > Oldsmobile USA Parts Supply LTD.
> > 8595L Euclid Avenue
> > Manassas, VA  22111
> > (703) 335 1935 - voice
> > (703) 335 0904 - fax
> >
>
>
>
> "The best way to predict the future is to create it...."

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:23:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: in despair for: trunk floor

Hi Guys,

I am pretty desperate... I was ordering a one piece trunk floor at year
one and they are out of stock. Can be 4 weeks until they get them in
again. I have to finish the trunk floor before I put the gas tank back!

Does anyone know another place where they sell 1 piece trunk floors for a
68 cutlass?
Plese help, I feel like I will get stuck otherwise, or have to pull the
gas tank twice!

Thanks, George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv.
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:29:49 PDT
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Underhood fiberglass mat

Try Metro Moulding

later,


Chris Rivier
'66 Delta 88...The BEAST
'88 Festiva...ZIPPY 165K+@40mpg


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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:41:11 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Synthetic 15W-50?

I tried to find synthetic oil in the 15W-50 area of weight. I could only
find MObil with 15W-40 weight at Pep Boys. IS there a Mobil 15W-50 or a
Castrol 15W-50 synthetic, if so, which would be a better buy.
Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:45:12 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info

> From: Jason Adcock <rocketolds@vt.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info
> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 08:47 PM
>
> I haven't had any experience with this place.  Has anyone else on the
list?
> I do live right near there, so I might see if they have a showroom or
> something, when I go back home, that is.
>
> Jason Adcock
____________-

Jason,

They have a showroom in Manassas, which I visited a few weeks ago.  They
are primarily a Cadillac supply house which has branched out into the
Oldsmobiles.  Their selection and sources are about the same as those of
most other Olds vendors, however their prices appeared to be higher than
those of Fusick or Year One.  The one advantage, of course, is that I can
drive there and pick the items up, avoiding the shipping charges.  I was a
little disappointed when I went there to get some metallic blue engine
paint for a 455.  I had called and specifically asked if this was the
correct metallic color, and they told me yes.  When I got there, the sales
person I dealt with did not seem to know his product very well, and when
whe tried out the paint, it turned out to be the later non-metallic blue,
not the correct 70-72 color.  Needless to say, I was disappointed, but
again, I'm glad that I was able to drive there and check it out before
buying.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:00:23 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info

Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:

> I was a little disappointed when I went there to get some metallic blue
> engine
> paint for a 455.

I am a little confused.  Were Olds engines really painted glossy when they
firstcame out?  I look at my Frosty's engine and yet I can tell it is bronze,
however,
it doesn't look metallic or shiny.  Help me out here.

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:24:29 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Jeep/Olds/ignition ?

The firing order on my 56, 324cid is different than that of other motors in
that I think mine is 18736542 and most others start out 183 or 184 or
something.  I was told that  Olds motors are different than chevy.
- ----------

Yep, that's the order, 7 and 4 transposed from the 18436572 order of later 
Old's
V-8s.
- --
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
          Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
http://www.442.com   OR   http://www.en.com/users/thall
Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
           ftp://arl.arizona.edu/lists/olds

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:27:32 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info

I am a little confused.  Were Olds engines really painted glossy when they
firstcame out?  I look at my Frosty's engine and yet I can tell it is
bronze,
however,
it doesn't look metallic or shiny.  Help me out here.

- --
Chris Sparks
___________

Yes, your 400(s) should be a gloss metallic bronze.  Naturally, time and
heat have dulled the paint.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:41:57 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info

Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:

> Yes, your 400(s) should be a gloss metallic bronze.  Naturally, time and
> heat have dulled the paint.

Do you have any color specs for this color?

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:50:29 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info

> I haven't had any experience with this place.  Has anyone else
> on the list?

No, but this is usually the point where I jump in with the web
page URL for whatever we're talking about...   :-)

http://www.usapartssupply.com/default.htm

Worth a visit; there are some nice photos there.

Their email address is usaparts@usapartssupply.com

- -- Andy


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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:19:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: how to lap valve seats / fuel question

Hi Guys,

Currently I am redoing the heads. (Lapping valve seats and put in new
valve gaskets). I bought some valve seats paste at AutoZone. It only
comes in one grain size.
I once heard you should do it in rough and then fine grain. It does not
tell the grain size on the tube... Should I just polish the seats until
they look good and stick to the one grain I have? Anybody has experience
with that straight forward method?

Also, I know, I could find this in FAQ, but can you tell me again: Do I
have to go for leaded fuel with my original #5 heads from 1968? What
additive do you recommend applied in which manner?

Thanks, George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv.
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:45:16 EDT
From: GraphixRUs@aol.com
Subject: Re: My City

I had the same problem for a while.
I called the dude at the city govn't & told him they would have to atake me to
court.
I bought a tarp , put it over the car , & said - now - you tell me what is
under the tarp, it could be lumber for remodeling.
Haven't heard anything about it since.
My &.02
maybe it will help.
Roger

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:08:03 -0400
From: "Brumm, Bruce" <bdbrumm@ldmtech.com>
Subject: 66 Toro -- look familiar to anyone... (was: Oldsmobile Parts Supp ly
info)

Check this out...I thought this car looked familiar.
(Note the license plates in the photo (Wisconson).  )
http://www.usapartssupply.com/default.htm


Why, this is the Toro of Greg Kalkhoff as seen at the link below.
<http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html>
Hope they had permission to use the photo!
They may be reached at usaparts@usapartssupply.com.
66 is my favorite year for Toronados.
Bruce D. Brumm
bdbrumm@ldmtech.com
'86 Olds Cutlass Salon (307-Y, t-tops, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:37:58 EDT
From: R4C442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Synthetic 15W-50?

Not only is there a 15W-50 Mobil 1, but it is currently on sale for $21.95 at
"Auto Zone" stores. The price includes 5 qts. and a filter (BB Olds # is
M1-203). The sale lasts until the end of September.
                                                                   Ron Forsee
                                                                   65
442-Meister

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:52:43 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Underhood fiberglass mat

Mine too, but none close to the center, thats what worries me, thanks.
Lou

You wrote
- ---------
> From: Dave Cullen <david.cullen@snet.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Underhood fiberglass mat
> Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 8:36 PM
>
>
>
> >Underhood mat is starting to look ragged. I know it's pinned, but what
> >holds the center up,
>
> On mine, the hood insulation is held in with plastic snap-buttons that
have
> really big heads.
>
> drc

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:55:48 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: installing sport mirrors

What's involved in installing a set of Sport mirrors on a '72 Cutlass
Supreme that didn't originally come with them?  My car originally came with
a drivers side remote mirror, and I want to install a drivers side remote
Sport mirror.  do they use the same mounting holes, or do I have to make new
holes or modify the existing ones?  Any help installing the passenger side
sport mirror would also be appreciated.

Thanks,
Blaine

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:02:19 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Underhood fiberglass mat

Glenn, thanks for the post, I was leaning that way but wanted some "been
there, done that",help. I spent all my life trying to remove weight, not
add more. A new beginning for me. PS this is on the 75, the 67's still
looks good.
Lou Biggs

- ----------
> From: Glenn Connors <gpc442@buffnet.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Underhood fiberglass mat
> Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 9:58 PM

>   Replaced the hood insulation on my car with the correct retainers.  I
knew
> that over time the original equipment 2" sqr. clips wouldn't hold that
> insulation over time so I did as you suggested and used a spray adhesive
> and, it not only looks good, but is very fuctional.
>
>
>   Glenn
>   '69 4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:07:10 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Tire Wear Q - 1965

Karl,
What Oldsmagnet says. He's correct. Has to be camber angle.
              Lou Biggs

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:03:14 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: installing sport mirrors

What's involved in installing a set of Sport mirrors on a '72 Cutlass
Supreme that didn't originally come with them?  My car originally came with
a drivers side remote mirror, and I want to install a drivers side remote
Sport mirror.  do they use the same mounting holes, or do I have to make
new
holes or modify the existing ones?  Any help installing the passenger side
sport mirror would also be appreciated.

Thanks,
Blaine
___________

Blaine,

The sport mirror will use the existing holes on the driver's side,
including the provision for the remote control cables.  You'll need to
drill holes on the passenger side.  Use the gasket as a template and simply
position the gasket at the same location as it is on the driver's door.
Drill the two holes for the studs and install the nuts from inside the
door.  Be sure to use a dab of silicone sealer on the edges of the drilled
holes to seal them from moisture.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:11:37 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

Plastic explosive, easily shaped, I.E. See Caddyshack movie w/Bill Murray.
Lou Biggs

You wrote
- ----------
> From: roger hitson <hitson@leadbelt.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 8:29 AM
>
> Must be something widely known, but not by me.
>
> reh

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:53:50 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Synthetic 15W-50?

mobil makes 15w50 and castrol makes a 20w50 both cost about the same the
mobil would be my choice they have been doing synthetic the longest
.......kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:43 AM
Subject: Synthetic 15W-50?


>I tried to find synthetic oil in the 15W-50 area of weight. I could only
>find MObil with 15W-40 weight at Pep Boys. IS there a Mobil 15W-50 or a
>Castrol 15W-50 synthetic, if so, which would be a better buy.
>Pettrix@prodigy.net
>

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:56:57 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: how to lap valve seats / fuel question

the compound you need is called clover it comes in a can with two sides it
is oil mixed and contains two grits I would stay away from the permatex in
the tube it is too course...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
To: OldsML <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 1:23 PM
Subject: how to lap valve seats / fuel question


>
>Hi Guys,
>
>Currently I am redoing the heads. (Lapping valve seats and put in new
>valve gaskets). I bought some valve seats paste at AutoZone. It only
>comes in one grain size.
>I once heard you should do it in rough and then fine grain. It does not
>tell the grain size on the tube... Should I just polish the seats until
>they look good and stick to the one grain I have? Anybody has experience
>with that straight forward method?
>
>Also, I know, I could find this in FAQ, but can you tell me again: Do I
>have to go for leaded fuel with my original #5 heads from 1968? What
>additive do you recommend applied in which manner?
>
>Thanks, George
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>'68 Cuttlass S Conv.
>http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:41:08 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

Composition C-4 is a non hygroscopic plastic explosive extremely stable and
with a detonation velocity of approximately 25,000 fps
it is used by the military for all manner of explosive demolition generally
packed in 1# blocks and it is detonated with a common #5 blasting cap which
can be electrically detonated or a fuse can be used
the explosive can be burned safely just like wood just dont try to stomp it
out.....kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Supafli50@aol.com <Supafli50@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)


>C-4 is a for of military explosive.  Is in a form like putty but is
detenated
>with an electrical charge.

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:35:14 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: installing sport mirrors

ME TOO,
Lou Biggs

- ----------
> From: B. Sanders <blaines@strata3d.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: installing sport mirrors
> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 4:55 PM
>
> What's involved in installing a set of Sport mirrors on a '72 Cutlass
> Supreme that didn't originally come with them?  My car originally came
with
> a drivers side remote mirror, and I want to install a drivers side remote
> Sport mirror.  do they use the same mounting holes, or do I have to make
new
> holes or modify the existing ones?  Any help installing the passenger
side
> sport mirror would also be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Blaine

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 18:40:34 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parts Supply info

Andrew C. Green wrote:
>
> > I haven't had any experience with this place.  Has anyone else
> > on the list?
>
> No, but this is usually the point where I jump in with the web
> page URL for whatever we're talking about...

Just got a package from them today.  Only one thing wrong... they BILLED
me correctly, obviously, but evidently, the schmuck packing the items
can't tell the difference between a 69 Hurst/Olds foam air cleaner seal
and a 70-72 W-30 air cleaner seal.  ARRGH!!!  I wanted the FAT one.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:45:26 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: 69 88 to 72 98 , rear bumber change

Hi all, I just found a possible new home for my 69 88 Bumper, but my 72
98 Rear Bumper is not that good, and I'd like to know if the 69 88 fits,
as that means I would obviously keep it!

Also, I know price is a relative thing, but what's a "Pretty Good Shape"
Rear Bumper off a 69 88 realistically worth, I'm not interested in
gouging anyone, but I really don't have a clue ($10, $20, $50, $100,
$600, $1500 ?????)

Eric
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/car_08.shtml  <-- Car in question

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:58:58 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: The General's store

Hey!
 i just want to a swapmeet and fond this guy,"The general's store"
he sales olds parts ,and i have a catalog of his ,some good stuff.
do you guy's/gals know of this guy? if this is old new's forgive me.


Thanks
      Ryan.


  My  -------   -------
            /  |
           /   |
          /     ------
         /            |
        /             |
       /        ------    DELTA 88
Ryan D Beck
           Riviera72sss@hotmail.com


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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:10:20 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Sport Mirrors

Oldsmagnet,
Do you sell new sport mirrors, if not, what years would fit my 75 Cutlass.
Can't find a right side mirror to match the left. Plus, every Olds I see
has the sport mirrors as standard equip. Mine is factory but it does not
match anything I see driving around. NOTHING MATCHES MY LEFT MIRROR!
                                                      Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:11:11 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: Re: The General's store

It's not me - the nerve of someone using someone else's name as a
handle.....

The General

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:23:10 EDT
From: GChris1511@aol.com
Subject: Re: OIL PRESSURE GAGE

Sounds like the suction strainer is blocked.  When cold the oil is thicker and
not flowing to the pump.  Then the bumps and accelerating also sounds like
pump cavitation I would not operate this engine until the problem is
identified.  If convenient try new gauge and gauge pressure line first.  I
don't believe in shooting the messenger (the gauge in this case) but getting
to the pump is difficult enough that I would want to know the instrumentation
was telling the truth.  Hope this helps.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:43:43 -0700
From: greg <gjackso1@san.rr.com>
Subject: Olds

I just baught a 72 Cutlass Supreme I intend to restore it where do I
begin and how do I find out what the original factory equipment was?
Greg

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:20:29 EDT
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Finish line

In a message dated 98-09-03 12:34:34 EDT, you write:

<< I went to the track for the first time yesterday, had lots of fun and ran a
 good time too. My question, is where the finish line?  >>

Exactally 1/4 mile from starting line........

Usually track has a cone in middle of track between lanes or some other type
of marker besides a line that is at the end.

What kind of ET did you get down to ?

Rgds,
Rob Thomas

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:46:22 EDT
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: 69 88 to 72 98 , rear bumber change

In a message dated 98-09-03 19:08:51 EDT, you write:

<<
 Hi all, I just found a possible new home for my 69 88 Bumper, but my 72
 98 Rear Bumper is not that good, and I'd like to know if the 69 88 fits,
 as that means I would obviously keep it!
  >>
68-69 88 bumpers interchange, but any other year.


Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:48:50 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

how much for the C-4?????





Hey!   what does C-4 really have to do with Chrome valve stem caps???   Or
this Olds e mail????   hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 18:18:51 -0700
From: greg <gjackso1@san.rr.com>
Subject: Cutlass

I just baught a 72 Cutlass Supreme to restore. Where do I start and how
do I find out what the original configuration of this vehicle.
Greg

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 21:49:50 EDT
From: Socref6211@aol.com
Subject: car show

major phila chev-olds dealer looking to have an all yr chev olds show in sept
- -oct of 2000 in conjunction with 2000 model year announcement could use help
from a local olds club to draw as big a showing as possible as we can park
over 1000 cars outsdie and about 50 more inside the building. would like to
get started on plans asap any one interested get back to socref6211@aol.com
thanks

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:07:33 EDT
From: MFATZII@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jeep/Olds/ignition ?

sooooo, is there an MSD ignition kit for my motor out there  (1956 324 bored
60 up 4bbl)  ?  The auto parts stores around here don't
know...............@#&$%#@ OPEY TAYLOR TOWN !



Ryan (MFatzII@aol.com)
Lincoln,   Nebraska  (Home of the Cornhuskers, too bad they suck !)

56 88 4dr Sedan  (Project Rocket)
<A HREF="http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/rides/wieders2/">Click here</A>
85 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
89 Chevy Beretta CL


    888                888
  8      8           8       8
8          8       8           8
  8      8           8       8
    8  8               8   8           LIVES
  8      8           8       8
8          8       8           8
  8     8            8       8
    888                888

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:12:41 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: 73 - 76 Parts

Hi List Members

I picked up some 74 442 body panels, they are southern.  I got a hood, two
fenders, the 1/4's a trunk lid, and a windshield.   I got them cheap and
will pass the whole lot to someone who want them all.
I will seperate the bits.

Something I need to ask, what years do the full 1/4's fit.

I know the 442/Hurst hood interchanges with 73 - 75.
The fenders interchange with 74 - 75
The deck lid interchanges with 73 - 76?
The windshield ????? I need help with
And the !/4's????

Any help appreciated

Thanks

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:16:58 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jeep/Olds/ignition ?

Opie Taylor?

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:42:07 EDT
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: 73 - 76 Parts

In a message dated 9/3/98 10:15:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
docbob@caninet.com writes:

<< ething I need to ask, what years do the full 1/4's fit.

 I know the 442/Hurst hood interchanges with 73 - 75.
 The fenders interchange with 74 - 75
 The deck lid interchanges with 73 - 76?
 The windshield ????? I need help with
 And the !/4's????

 Any help appreciated
  >>
The 1/4's fit 74-75
the windshield 73-76 2dr only

Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:09:00 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: [Toro] 66 Toro -- look familiar to anyone... (was: Oldsmobile 
Parts
Supp ly info)

Brumm, Bruce wrote:
>
> Check this out...I thought this car looked familiar.
> (Note the license plates in the photo (Wisconson).  )
> http://www.usapartssupply.com/default.htm
>
> Why, this is the Toro of Greg Kalkhoff as seen at the link below.
> <http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html>
> Hope they had permission to use the photo!
> They may be reached at usaparts@usapartssupply.com.
> 66 is my favorite year for Toronados.

Bruce,

Yeah, that pic has been up there a few years almost now. I order from them
ocassionally and always mention that they have my car on their web page (kinda
hinting at a nice discount), but they just say "OH! That's a nice car" and
leave it at that. No I did not give them permission to use it, nor did they ask
if they could. But, that's ok....it's kinda flattering and for all general
purposes, it is pretty much public domain anyway.

Now, If I see that picture on a MASS produced calander all over the place, you
better believe I would have my hand out for residuals!  (:

Sparky
- --
Greg "Sparky" Kalkhoff                               See the Sparkmobile
Toronado Chapter Webmaster                     
http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
Toronado FAQ Page Administrator
http://www.Toronado.org

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:14:33 -0700
From: "Greg" <gjackso1@san.rr.com>
Subject: 72 Supreme

I just bought a 72 cutlass supreme to restore.  How do I find out what the
original configuration from the factory.
Greg

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:32:01 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Finish line

What track did you go to  and what type of car and times did you run?
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: RPTW32@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Finish line
> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 7:20 PM
>
> In a message dated 98-09-03 12:34:34 EDT, you write:
>
> << I went to the track for the first time yesterday, had lots of fun and
ran a
>  good time too. My question, is where the finish line?  >>
>
> Exactally 1/4 mile from starting line........
>
> Usually track has a cone in middle of track between lanes or some other
type
> of marker besides a line that is at the end.
>
> What kind of ET did you get down to ?
>
> Rgds,
> Rob Thomas

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:42:50 -0500
From: Tom Williams <tjwilli@megavision.com>
Subject: 350 to 455 swap

Hi all,
   I have a 1970 Cutlass Supreme bucket seat car. The original motor is
a 350 and is not running. I was thinking of putting in a 455, and would
like to know if there is a lot of difficulty in this. I do know of a
person here locally who has a 71 Supreme who did the same thing and did
not have to change much to do this. I was informed that it would be
difficult from an Olds person here locally, yet at the same time the
other gentleman who has the 71 said it would fit right in, is there any
difference in the motor mounts ect... from a 70 to a 71 or 72?
Thank you in advance for any answers to this question.

Tom

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:40:29 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Synthetic 15W-50?

The mobil is about $3.99 a quart. Is it really worth it? How about the
synthetic blend that is 1/2 oil and 1/2 synthetic oil? Fully synthetic oil
will not thin out in high heat?
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Synthetic 15W-50?
> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 4:53 PM
>
> mobil makes 15w50 and castrol makes a 20w50 both cost about the same the
> mobil would be my choice they have been doing synthetic the longest
> .......kk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:43 AM
> Subject: Synthetic 15W-50?
>
>
> >I tried to find synthetic oil in the 15W-50 area of weight. I could only
> >find MObil with 15W-40 weight at Pep Boys. IS there a Mobil 15W-50 or a
> >Castrol 15W-50 synthetic, if so, which would be a better buy.
> >Pettrix@prodigy.net
> >

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