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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, September 5 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1466



Re: National Automotive Lines!
Springs 'n' Things
Re: Synthetic 15W-50?
Starfire comes home
Re: The General's store
[none]
Re: My City
86 Salon update....overheating
Re: The General's store
I am seeking for parts for my 70 olds 98 LS
Re: National Automotive Lines!
Re: Olds in a movie
Re: Cutlass trunk floor...
Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Sport Mirrors: Part II
72 Cutlass Supreme parts
RE: 72 cutlass supreme 2/d ht
Re: 72 Cutlass Supreme parts
Re: Sport Mirrors: Part II
Mail Woes
unsubscribe olds digest
Re: Mail Woes
list removal
Re: MAYBE W-32?
Re: Starfire comes home
1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88
Re: Sport Mirrors: Part II
Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Re: Proms
Re: how to lap valve seats / fuel question
Toro List Classifieds
Re:  guage cluster inquiry, g body
Re: Good plug wires..??????
Re: Sport Mirrors: Part II
Ken Snyder Racing Pages Updated!
Re: MAYBE W-32?
'79 Cutlass Supreme
Shifter parts
Re: '79 Cutlass Supreme
Re: HI FROM GA>>>
Re: What's c-4? and stuff
Re: power brake unit
Re: Journey With Olds
Englishtown
Re: 72 Cutlass Supreme parts
Re: Starfire comes home
Englishtown
New Parts
Web Page update
Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
Chrome valve stem caps
Re: What's c-4? and stuff
Need parts-63 Olds
Re: Web Page update
Re: Englishtown
Still need intake/carb
73 H/O. New 26 year old baby.
Re: What's c-4? and stuff

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:03:08 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: National Automotive Lines!

In a message dated 98-09-04 16:51:35 EDT, you write:

<< 4 shocks and outer tie rod ends! >>

Shocks??

I'll have to examine my catalogue more closely.....

SOM
&KA

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:17:17 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Springs 'n' Things

In a message dated 98-08-05 18:55:53 EDT, you write:

<< Contact Springs & Things, 717-672-9413, I received a complete set for my
 66 yesterday, cost me $144.00 for all 4, including shipping! >>

My thanks to; floridarealtor@worldnet.att.net (Toby Blom).

I have ordered a set for SOM that will be a few $$ less with shipping....

I can't wait!!!!
And neither can I!!!

SOM
&KA

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:21:03 -0500
From: Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Synthetic 15W-50?

I cannot speak for Mobil 1, but Amsoil has one of the highest shear
strengths you can get in a motor oil.  Yes, synthetic is far superior to
any petroleum oil ever made.

I can start my 455 Pontiac at 20 degrees F with 20W50 synthetic much
easier than 10W30 petroleum, or should I say, I CAN start it!  When I
first switched to synthetic, I noticed that my part throttle pinging
went away, and that was in Oklahoma summer heat and 10:1 compression, I
used Mobil 1 5W30.  Synthetic has all better properties!!  The Amsoil
20W50 made more HP compared to 10W30 Petroleum too!

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:26:06 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: Starfire comes home

Got the 66 Starfire from body&paint with new windows
front & rear. Edged by shiny fresh-buffed stainless steel trim.

It's big. Very big. Seems bigger than the 66 98 convertible,
but I can't figure out quite why. Probably because the 98's
been there since I was 2 and this is new. Or maybe because
the top is made of metal not fabric. Or because you could
play tennis on the expanse of hood.

Autumn Bronze paint. Looks like rust metallic really. Interesting
variant on red and brown. Y'know some of those really awful
Kustom Kolors? It's kinda like that, but not quite. Thank god.

Started reattaching  the pot metal trim last night and realized
this process isn't that different from decorating a christmas
tree. I was surprised how fast it went last night. The trim is
in great shape too.

My girlfriend has taken to calling it the musclecar. I'm not a
big fan of this name because of the C*maro-in-permanent-
primer connotation.

Anybody have ideas on how I can explain that this was not a
musclecar? I think of this car as far more luxurious & refined.
But then, maybe it isn't. Starfire stories anyone?

Question: Does anybody make an adapter for 15" wheels that
would allow me to keep using the 14" wheel hubcaps? I like
the 'caps that are on it, but I want disk brakes too.

glad to have the new toy home,
cf

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 14:39:37 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: The General's store

>Can you give a synopsis of the catalogue?
>
>To wit; does he specialize in mechanical, electrical, or sheetmetal;
does he
>only provide for certain cars (e.g. 4 4 2 's) or years (e.g.
1968-1972)???
>
>>he sales ,puick,pontiak ,chevrolet,and olds ,hears the kind of stuff
he has,emblems for about all,marker and parking lamps & parts for sum,
taillamps & lenses,headlamps & hardware,interior stuff,
w/s wipers & washers and parts,gauges & hardware,locks,clutch and trany
parts,mirrors & hardware,bumpers,fenders (70 72 cutlass)
fender mldgs,door hardware ,1/4 panels (70 72)
engine bay stuff,

50's to 80s

i hope that helps


  My  -------   -------
            /  |
           /   |
          /     ------
         /            |
        /             |
       /        ------    DELTA 88
Ryan D Beck
           Riviera72sss@hotmail.com


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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:46:50 -0500
From: "Hill" <hill@imagin.net>
Subject: [none]

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 14:54:20 PDT
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: My City

Hi guys,

You could have the local graffiti artists paint your parts cars in wild
colors and call it ART.

Artist and Designer,

Chris Rivier
'66 Delta 88...The BEAST
'88 Festiva...ZIPPY 165K+@40mpg


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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:06:06 EDT
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: 86 Salon update....overheating

I put in a 180 therm in, and also 2 "prestone" flush radiator treatments, will
swap out today w/reg antifreeze and Ill try 1 bottle of  Redline water wetter.
Runs around 212, according to my gauge, 220 when sitting in NYC traffic on the
way home from work.  Doesn't boil over, and will restart when I shut it off
hot to refuel, etc.  Its fun to drive though, and I just got 4 KYB shocks to
put in it.  Olds show is tomorrow at Englishtown?????  Ill try to make it
w/the Salon.

Bernie

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:06:10 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: The General's store

Thanks Ryan, Xactly waht I wanted 2 know...

<< w/s wipers & washers and parts >>

Wiper motors???

Drat!

I just ordered one from Greg Rollin @ Supercars Unlimited!

Let Y'all know how it goes!

SOM
&KA

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:13:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dennis Sytsma <dsytsma@dc.seflin.org>
Subject: I am seeking for parts for my 70 olds 98 LS

TO: Oldsmobile news group
From: Dennis Sytsma

I own a 1970 olds 98 LS that got pretty beat up in Hurricane Andrew.  The
left front fender and left rear quarter panel is dented beyond repair.
Due to the age and condition of the vehicle, I do not want to spend very
much on it, but I would like to find replacement parts that do not cost
very much.

If you know of someone who has these parts for sale, please let me know.
I live south of Miami Floirda, so a source in south florida would be best
for me.  Big Oldsmobiles are not very popular here, so the search around
here has been unproductive.

Thanks



Dennis Jon Sytsma
1970 98 LS, 1977 Olds vista cruiser wagon
Homestead, Florida 33031-3204

sytsma@gzinc.com
http://home.gzinc.com/sytsma/

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:14:46 EDT
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: National Automotive Lines!

In a message dated 9/4/98 4:52:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jspajak@yahoo.com
writes:

<<    Hey folks! I just bought a 3 core Modine radiator for my 307 86
 Cutlass for $104, + $9.05 shipping (to MD)! I got it from National
 Automotive Lines in Indiana. I ordered it  Tuesday afternoon and it
 came Friday afternoon! Local stores wanted $144 + tax!
    >>
I paid 125 local foe my modine for my 86 Salon...just some info to pass on
Bernie NJ

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:07:28 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Olds in a movie

RAY.COSTANZO@firstunion.com wrote:

> SUBJECT:  Olds in a movie
>
>    Last night I saw a preview for a movie called Practical Magic.  A 7
>    0(?) Cutlass is in it, along with Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman.
>      That's an alright setup]
>
>    Ray Costanzo
>    87 409 Cutlass
>    ray.costanzo@firstunion.com



The only thing I can think of that would be better than Sandra Bullock in
a Cutlass, would be for me to be driving!

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 17:23:48 -0400
From: Todd Williams <todd@wvadventures.net>
Subject: Re: Cutlass trunk floor...

At 04:51 PM 9/4/98 EDT, you wrote:
>George-
>The trunk floor I have is pretty nice and will work well for you. I am in
>SoCal and will have to cut it out if interested.
>$75+ UPS
>
>Peter
>
hey will it fit a 72 cutlass supreme ? if so im very interested
Todd (todd@wvadventures.net)

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:49:02 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

Ya know, I'm sorry I started this thread.  But, as long as we're on it, an
M-60 would do it, too.  Nukes are a little excessive.  How's about calling
in supporting fire from the Missouri?  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)


>In a message dated 98-09-03 19:33:23 EDT, you write:
>
><< Composition C-4 is a non hygroscopic plastic explosive extremely stable
and
> with a detonation velocity of approximately 25,000 fps
>  >>
>Yes, but do you think it would be powerful enough to stop a chrome valve
stem
>thief? I dunno, those guys must be pretty tough to have achieved that
status.
>I think we'd better consider nuclear alternatives. Whadda ya say.
>Bruce
>75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:36:47 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: Sport Mirrors: Part II

OK, I'm a little confused.  I've gotten a couple of responses, but they're
all a little contradictory.  Will someone please set this straight for me?

Here's what my Sport mirrors are like:  Both mirrors mount to a bracket that
is supposed to be riveted onto the car door.  These are correct for '71 -
'72, correct?

Here's what the original mirror on my '72 Cutlass Supreme is like:  It is a
chrome drivers side remote mirror.  It is mounted to my door with 2
allen-head screws that, I believe, screw into 2 flatheaded round things that
drop into two holes and slide into slots, and then are tightened on the
outside by the 2 allen screws.  This, I also believe, is the way the basic
chrome mirrors on a '68 - '70 Cutlass attach.  Correct?

I've seen other '72 Supremes with the same type mirror as mine, and they
attach the same way as mine.  But other people have told me that the sport
mirror (at least on the driver's side) should attach the same way as the
original mirror.  Is it possible that GM was using the '70 type standard
remote mirrors all the way up through '72?

Thanks,
Blaine

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:44:20 -0700
From: "Greg" <gjackso1@san.rr.com>
Subject: 72 Cutlass Supreme parts

Any one In SoCal with 72 Cutlass Supreme Parts for sale.  I am In San Diego
and just bought a 72 to restore.
Greg   gjackso1@san.rr.com

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 98 18:09:59 -0500
From: Jonathan Morris <jmorris@po.okc.cc.ok.us>
Subject: RE: 72 cutlass supreme 2/d ht

Well I'm not much of an expert on auto body work so I can't help
you there but as far as the gen light on your car you might try
replacing the voltage regulator.  I had the same problem on my
'72 awhile back and after checking practically everything umder
the hood trying to get that light off it ended up being the
voltage regulator.  There pretty cheap so if nothing else works
it's worth a try!!

Jon
'72 Cutlass Supreme

>===== Original Message From oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca =====
>hey guys couple of ? for ya
>1: how hard is it to put on a Vinyl Top my car had one back then and i want
>one on it now also what about the trim/molding that went around it is that
>hard to find and or get some one point me in the right direction please
>
>2:ok another thing is that trim thats above the doors may be called drip
>moldeing but not sure is that hard get  and replaced not sure but by
>looking at it looks like it welded on to the roof would like to replace it
>if i can it sure is beated up and doesnt have that good shine it any more
>
>3:  ok i put a new alternator on and a starter when i got the car the dummy
>light was on (GEN) so i put new one on and the light is still on so i
>thought id take off the + cable side going to the battery to see if the car
>would shut off and it did anyone have any ideas to what the problem is ? i
>sure dont from the looks of it its running off the battery ??
>
>4: ok last one sorry .... is it possible to take out the dummy lights and
>replace with new gauges also have the extra place where the clock goes
>because mine didnt come with one ??

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:08:37 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 72 Cutlass Supreme parts

Greg wrote:

> Any one In SoCal with 72 Cutlass Supreme Parts for sale.  I am In San Diego
> and just bought a 72 to restore.
> Greg   gjackso1@san.rr.com

What kind of parts do you need?
We're only one state away.  In Portland, Oregon.


Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:24:39 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Sport Mirrors: Part II

Blaine,
My 75 has no screws or attaching hardware visible. It's rectangular in
shape, about 5 and a quarter in width. has a bevel about halfway from front
to rear that goes around the entire mirror. this darn thing cannot be
found. I saw an old lady driving in another lane that had two of these on
her delta. Couldn't catch up to her to find out what year it was. the one I
have is perfect, problem is, I need one for the right side. Going to change
to sport.
Lou Biggs

from: B. Sanders <blaines@strata3d.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Sport Mirrors: Part II
> Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 5:36 PM
>
> OK, I'm a little confused.  I've gotten a couple of responses, but
they're
> all a little contradictory.  Will someone please set this straight for
me?
>
> Here's what my Sport mirrors are like:  Both mirrors mount to a bracket
that
> is supposed to be riveted onto the car door.  These are correct for '71 -
> '72, correct?
>
> Here's what the original mirror on my '72 Cutlass Supreme is like:  It is
a
> chrome drivers side remote mirror.  It is mounted to my door with 2
> allen-head screws that, I believe, screw into 2 flatheaded round things
that
> drop into two holes and slide into slots, and then are tightened on the
> outside by the 2 allen screws.  This, I also believe, is the way the
basic
> chrome mirrors on a '68 - '70 Cutlass attach.  Correct?
>
> I've seen other '72 Supremes with the same type mirror as mine, and they
> attach the same way as mine.  But other people have told me that the
sport
> mirror (at least on the driver's side) should attach the same way as the
> original mirror.  Is it possible that GM was using the '70 type standard
> remote mirrors all the way up through '72?
>
> Thanks,
> Blaine

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:32:06 -0300
From: "Greg B." <munccoor@fox.nstn.ca>
Subject: Mail Woes

Hi gang,

I'm posting from a different address because Chebucto appears to have nuked
the inboxes of all clients... hopefully temporarily, but for now, I can't
access my normal inbox. So if anyone needs to reach me, try this address.
Admin tasks will not get gone until the problem is fixed. I dunno if mail
to ab348@chebucto.ns.ca is bouncing or not.

Greg Beaulieu

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:58:49 EDT
From: JBRERX7@aol.com
Subject: unsubscribe olds digest

unsubscribe olds digest

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:30:20 EDT
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mail Woes

Greg-
Bet that Swissair fiasco up near Halifax has all the lines jammed...
Peter
CoupeKing@aol.com
SoCal

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:56:05 EDT
From: Claypol442@aol.com
Subject: list removal

plaese take me off this list

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:02:08 -0400
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: MAYBE W-32?

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com
Centennial Feature at http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

- ----------
> From: WMACHINES@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: MAYBE W-32?
> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 11:11 PM
>
Late in responding, but we still need to get this right:
In '70 the W-32 was the 4-bbl. version of the SX which included all of the
442 goodies except the ornamentation.

> In a message dated 98-08-28 18:24:18 EDT, you write:
>
> << > > Yes, duals were optional in 72 on the 350, though you didn't get a
> cutout
>  > > bumper unless you had a big block.  W-31 production stopped in 1970,
>  >
>  > Maybe W-32?
>
>  W-32 was 69 only.  In 1972, you either got the non-cutout bumper with
>  the 442, or you got the 455 engine, either version, W-30 or not, which
>  included the rear cutout bumper.  If you ever see a STOCK 72 442 with
>  the cutouts, rest assured it came from the factory with some sort of
>  455.
>
>  Mike Rothe >>
> W-32 was the option code for the 1970 and 1971 SX built on the Cutlass
Supreme
> body. It came standard with a 455 two or option 4 barrel carb, FE3
suspension
> and cutout rear bumpers with SX tags on the fenders.
>
> W MACHINES (Mark Prince)

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:53:28 EDT
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Starfire comes home

In a message dated 9/4/98 5:29:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cfair@FairIsaac.com writes:

<<
 Anybody have ideas on how I can explain that this was not a
 musclecar? I think of this car as far more luxurious & refined.
 But then, maybe it isn't. Starfire stories anyone?

 Question: Does anybody make an adapter for 15" wheels that
 would allow me to keep using the 14" wheel hubcaps? I like
 the 'caps that are on it, but I want disk brakes too.
  >>
Hi Chris
   Enjoying the update on the Starfire, keep up the good work, seems like your
headed in the right direction.
   The Starfire is known as a "Luxury Sports Car" that was what the ads read
when they first came out in 1961.
    As for using your 14" wheel covers on 15" wheels, I know a guy who did
that with his 1960 S-88 Conv.  He got a set of 15" trim rings and attached his
wheel covers to the trim rings. I am not exactly sure how he attached them but
it worked well. If you need further info let me know.

Everett  OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:43:20 -0400
From: becker@research.moore.com
Subject: 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88

Bill Becker@MOORECORP
09/04/98 10:43 PM
I'm trying to locate someone who may be able to use parts from my 67 Olds
Delmont 88.   I plan to scrap it soon if there's no one who needs parts
from it.  It has a 330 engine & Jetaway Trans (w/ factory switch pitch
converter).  It has a black interior with excellent door panels.  Much of
the exterior stainless trim is in very good condition.   You may want to
advise any of your members who may be interested.   You can email me at
becker@research.moore.com or call me at 716-684-2600 or 716-439-8340.

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 22:53:47 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Sport Mirrors: Part II

B. Sanders wrote:
>
> Will someone please set this straight for me?

Well, OK, since you asked nicely...

> Here's what my Sport mirrors are like:  Both mirrors mount to a bracket that
> is supposed to be riveted onto the car door.  These are correct for '71 -
> '72, correct?

That's what the mirrors are like I removed from a '71 and installed a
little while ago on my '72.

> Here's what the original mirror on my '72 Cutlass Supreme is like:  It is a
> chrome drivers side remote mirror.  It is mounted to my door with 2
> allen-head screws that, I believe, screw into 2 flatheaded round things that
> drop into two holes and slide into slots, and then are tightened on the
> outside by the 2 allen screws.  This, I also believe, is the way the basic
> chrome mirrors on a '68 - '70 Cutlass attach.  Correct?

Sounds correct.  My '72 originally had a standard mirror and I converted
to a remote, then I converted the remote over to dual sports.  Some
people just can't be satisified...

> I've seen other '72 Supremes with the same type mirror as mine, and they
> attach the same way as mine.  But other people have told me that the sport
> mirror (at least on the driver's side) should attach the same way as the
> original mirror.

I don't think that's true.

First of all, to remove your current mirror, turn those allen heads
CLOCKWISE.  There are tightening/loosening from the other side, so you
have to do the opposite of what you would normally do.  But I wouldn't
remove the mirror until you have the door panel off and have the
cable/control ready to come out of the door, unless you've got another
person with you designated to hold the loose mirror while you do
everything else.

One you have the mirror removed, you will see two small holes where the
new bracket screws will go.  I think it would be wise at this time to
make a reversible template to use on the other door.  I didn't do that
and had to remove the mirror again to make a template.  'Course, my
passenger mirror wasn't ready to be installed at the same time and I
didn't want the holes there before the mirror, so I didn't have much
choice, tho I could have done the template ahead of time.  Anyway...

Feed the cable through the hole in the sport gasket (make sure to use
the sport mirror gasket, as the standard remote gasket in different) and
attach the bracket on top of the gasket.  The screw hole on the bracket
end will face the rear of the car.  Slip the front of the mirror base
over the front of the bracket and put the screw in the rear of the base
into the rear of the bracket and your done.  Install the cable in the
tabs that the old cable was in.  Make sure the window clears the cable.

On the passenger side, drill the holes, follow the same procedure,
except there no cable to worry about.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 19:39:07 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

shes too far away unless the offenders are 30 miles from the coast however
we could use thomahawks but close air support would be my forte with
conventional armament and having experience in such matters I would be happy
to lase the target for you if you can pinpoint their stronghold but with any
luck a delta team can rescue the valve stem caps prior to the air
engagment...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)


>Ya know, I'm sorry I started this thread.  But, as long as we're on it, an
>M-60 would do it, too.  Nukes are a little excessive.  How's about calling
>in supporting fire from the Missouri?  Peter.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JonKrisInc@aol.com <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 8:50 AM
>Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)
>
>
>>In a message dated 98-09-03 19:33:23 EDT, you write:
>>
>><< Composition C-4 is a non hygroscopic plastic explosive extremely stable
>and
>> with a detonation velocity of approximately 25,000 fps
>>  >>
>>Yes, but do you think it would be powerful enough to stop a chrome valve
>stem
>>thief? I dunno, those guys must be pretty tough to have achieved that
>status.
>>I think we'd better consider nuclear alternatives. Whadda ya say.
>>Bruce
>>75 Delta 88 conv.
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:58:11 -0500
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: Proms

Steve & All,

A little more "non-scientific" proof for ya. I just got a set of Steve's
proms
today. Took the 442 out on an old back country road, and did some
informal "seat of the pants" testing myself.

I ran a set of 0-80mph runs just with myself, a stopwatch, and a close eye
on the ditches...only one run had to be aborted because a deer tried to
commit suicide. <g> Anyway...trying to stay on the road, watch the tach,
speedometer and the stopwatch (told ya it wasn't scientific) here's what
I ran: 0-80mph

Stock chip: 22.93 secs
Hypertech chip: 20.64 secs
Steve's "E" chip: 19.5 secs

I didn't have chip carriers for the custom proms, but the "E" chip worked.
I was unable to get a good connection with the "F" chip, so wasn't able
to test that. I could've tightened the pins, but decided to wait so I didn't
ruin the chip. (my luck)

Considering that I'm not a "racer", there was a noticeable difference in
performance. With the stock & Hypertech chip it took awhile to hit the
80mph mark...with the custom chip, it was still pulling rather quickly.

I feel it was a ridiculously low price to pay to shave over THREE
seconds off the time. (Thanks, Steve!) I highly recommend them.
BTW, I was running 92 Octane (Citgo) gasoline, and had no
pinging problems either.

- -Mark Tupper    1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net        http://www.cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 23:00:56 EDT
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: how to lap valve seats / fuel question

, you write:

<< I once heard you should do it in rough and then fine grain. It does not
 tell the grain size on the tube... Should I just polish the seats until
 they look good and stick to the one grain I have? Anybody has experience
 with that straight forward method?>>

Personally  I would go out and find the clover leave compound.  comes in 2
grits , start with the coarse then finish with the fine.  Keep lapping till
you get a nice grey seat on the valve and the seat.  This is in no way a
replacement for a grind but it wont hurt.

 <<Also, I know, I could find this in FAQ, but can you tell me again: Do I
 have to go for leaded fuel with my original #5 heads from 1968? What
 additive do you recommend applied in which manner?>>

Yes  you sure do,  go with any "Lead substitute" and folow there directions.
Bardahl is the one I generally recomend FWIW

Joe Stackman
  >>

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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 23:36:02 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Toro List Classifieds

All,

The Toro List Classified page is now 100% up and running. I had a few glitches,
but all is fixed now!

Just to reiterate, if you had an ad running with the old version, you MUST
re-place the ad with the new current software. This is now an 'interactive'
program (thanks to Dave Voorhis) that allows YOU to place/amend/delete the ad
at will!

http://www.toronado.org/classifieds

Please keep track of your ads and manage them appropriately. ONLY
Toronado/Trofeo/Aurora ads will be kept, OR any ads tangible to such. However,
if you have a 442/HO/ W-34/Cutlass and are looking for a 425/455 (and parts or
whatever) out of a Toro (etc etc), feel free!

Any questions, concerns, and/or feedback, contact me privately, I reply to
EVERYONE (sooner or later...usually later)  (;

Long Live Oldsmobile!

Sparky

- --
Greg "Sparky" Kalkhoff                          See the Sparkmobile
Toronado Chapter Webmaster                http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
Toronado FAQ Page Administrator
http://www.Toronado.org

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:36:31 EDT
From: JJP442@aol.com
Subject: Re:  guage cluster inquiry, g body

I've seen plenty of Cutlass' with gauge clusters including 4drs with column
shift so.. it's not that unusual
JJP442@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 00:40:55 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@cchat.com>
Subject: Re: Good plug wires..??????

krzy4evr@usit.net wrote:
>
> List..............
>
> I need a couple of suggestions on the best kind of plug wires to
> install on my '86 442. I don't want a good brand of Advance Auto crap
> either. I want a really good brand name plug wire that will give me
> maximum performance for the money. Also, shocks..!! Are the Monroe
> Sensatracs as good as they are billed to be???

I have Accel Spiral Coil 8.8 wire in mine...  I like them, sorta..  <G>
The wires themselves are cool, and did help over all performance, but
due to my impatience, I bought the "make your own" wires, and they had
the 90 Degree plug boot on them...  GRRRRR...  Now my Driver's Last
piston (by firewall) has a habit of coming loose...  Otherwise, GREAT.
I'd buy another set...  I am looking at the Accel 300's now.

Sensatrac:  Two THUMBS up!  I got them in the rear, and had them in the
front.  The rear is firm.  Doesn't bobble over bumps either.  The front
when I got the car were worn, and had seen better days..  But even as
worn as they were, were still good...  Now I have Gabriel VST in the
front (Gabriel's version of Sensatrac I am told) and the front holds
perfectly.  No bounce, period.
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:40:52 EDT
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sport Mirrors: Part II

Blaine,
71 and 72 sport mirrors mount differently than 70 sport mirrors. You will need
to use small sheet metal typescrews to mount both brackets. Then secure the
mirrors to these brackets using the holes located through the  front of the
pedestals. These screws are a little different than your typical screws so use
the correct ones. Hopefully you bought the mirrors, mounting pads, brackets,
and screws together.
Dennis

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:41:44 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Ken Snyder Racing Pages Updated!

Hello everyone,

I just got done with the revisions of the web pages and wanted to invite all
of you to drop by.  Since there has been trouble with getting revisions done
to the ChasinRacin pages due to the death of the founder of the main site, I
also added all those pages to the AOL space.  They will be almost the same
ones that will be on ChasinRacin as soon as they can get some free time, so
you can preview them now!  If you encounter any difficulties with the pages,
please e-mail me and I will try to fix them right away, which will probably be
Monday, as we're working SCCA races in Topeka Saturday and Sunday.  Anyway,
here's the address:

http://members.aol.com/ks7racing/index.htm
or
 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/ks7racing/index.htm">Welcome To Ken Snyder
Racing @ America Online!</A>


Thanks in advance for visiting, more "in-progress" pics of Grace as soon as I
get them scanned!

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:22:38 EDT
From: WMACHINES@aol.com
Subject: Re: MAYBE W-32?

In a message dated 98-09-04 21:33:40 EDT, you write:

<< Late in responding, but we still need to get this right:
 In '70 the W-32 was the 4-bbl. version of the SX which included all of the
 442 goodies except the ornamentation. >>
Nope, it came standard with a 2 bbl.  Got the 70 book and I owned one before

W MACHINES (Mark Prince)

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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 03:00:33 -0400
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: '79 Cutlass Supreme

Hey all,

Once again, I need some wisdom thrown down from Mt. Oldsmobile.  I just
recently acquired a '79 Cutlass Supreme.  It's got a 305, TH350, no a/c,
no power anything, no options, nada.  I bought it for $250 with 87k on
the orig motor, a bad carb, no brakes, and dual glass packs.  This one
is going to be my winter car, taking the place of my '72 Grand Prix
(which is for sale, by the way).  Is there anything I should look out
for?  Any areas of interest I should know of?  Also, are there any good
sources of info. on this and/or other late 70s vehicles of its class on
the web.  Any information is greatly appreciated.  I figure, for the
money, it could go up in flames tomorrow and I woudn't be all that
upset.  Thanks in advance all.  Take care!

Dan

'69 4-4-2
'72 Grand Prix
'71 Bronco
'79 Cultass Supreme (the new kid on the block)

- --
- ---------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
WSHL General Manager
http://www.stonehill.edu/wshl
http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
- ---------------------------------

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 03:43:33 EDT
From: TomW30@aol.com
Subject: Shifter parts

 Am going to reinstall the original shifter on my '69 442 3speed automatic
TH-400. I have the black vinyl floor console and the floor mounted shifter
assembly itself. What I need is the cable that runs from the shifter to the
tranny and all the other parts that connect and guide this cable. I do not
have a schematic on this so I'm not even sure what it is I'm looking for.
(Would anyone be willing to scan this in and e-mail it to me?) I ahven't been
able to find a source for these parts. Of course it would help if I knew what
I was looking for. Does anyone know where I can find what I need (and what I
need?)?

                     All help greatly appreciated!

                                   Tom Reardon
                                    Tomw30 (private e-mail)

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 05:07:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: '79 Cutlass Supreme

- ---"Daniel R. Gerow" <dgerow@coal.stonehill.edu> wrote:
  I just
> recently acquired a '79 Cutlass Supreme.  It's got a 305, TH350, no
a/c,
> no power anything, no options, nada.  I bought it for $250 <Snipped>
 I figure, for the
> money, it could go up in flames tomorrow and I woudn't be all that
> upset.


- ----Hope it doesn't go up in flames,maybe you'll be like me and find
out that $250 car is the MOST reliable thing in the driveway.I bought
my 82 wagon as something to keep TOPLESS off the road and haul
parts...not going to touch it,leave it alone.....Yeah,right....bucket
seats,Rally Pac ,console,flowmaster exhaust......Good luck with the
car.Well,maybe the 85 is even now with NEW running gear all the way...:)
              Later,
                  John
        P.S.   Everybody have a safe and great weekend...
==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:54:07 EDT
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: HI FROM GA>>>

HAY DENNIS>>>

OLDS guy here>>>

do you have a broken AM_FM 70-2  need the face..with the switch in it...

jeff.....

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:14:09 EDT
From: MFATZII@aol.com
Subject: Re: What's c-4? and stuff

In a message dated 9/4/98 5:56:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
pber710840@email.msn.com writes:

<< Ya know, I'm sorry I started this thread.  But, as long as we're on it, an
 M-60 would do it, too.  Nukes are a little excessive.  How's about calling
 in supporting fire from the Missouri?  Peter. >>


a little 25 cal pop-gun wold work too.  Hit em in the head just right and let
the bullet play pin ball in their skull turning their brains to oatmeal fit
for the maggots........


By the way , thanks to all that has sent me the links to summit and MSD
ignition.!


Ryan (MFatzII@aol.com)
Lincoln,   Nebraska  (Home of the Cornhuskers, too bad they suck !)

56 88 4dr Sedan  (Project Rocket)
<A HREF="http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/rides/wieders2/">Click here</A>
85 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
89 Chevy Beretta CL


    888                888
  8      8           8       8
8          8       8           8
  8      8           8       8
    8  8               8   8           LIVES
  8      8           8       8
8          8       8           8
  8     8            8       8
    888                888

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:58:02 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: power brake unit

>The membrame in my power brake unit is gone,..........Is there an easy way
to overhaul the thing (with the strong spring in it and all).  or is it much
better and easier to put a new unit on ?>


Ron, you could choose either method.  In my case when my booster went, I
wanted a "better than new" looking brake booster.  My was redone by "Steve
Gregori".  I strongly recommend him!  He does excellent work.  Rebuilds and
replates brake boosters to original appearance.  He was also very helpful
with my many questions over the phone before I sent my booster to him.
Steve Gregori - Phone:  #209-875-0290

"Supercars Unlimited" also has rebuilt boosters they sell.   Phone:
#503-244-8249


If you only want to fix your booster for mechanical reasons, it would
probably be a little cheaper to buy one from a local parts store, Napa etc..

Good luck!
=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:47:22 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Journey With Olds

JWO is only available as a monthly membership newsletter through the OCA.
There is an article or two that gets posted on the OCA web site from time to
time, but that doesn't even scratch the surface.

{join OCA!  support your interests in Oldsmobile's}

=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:18:28 -0400
From: RAY.COSTANZO@firstunion.com
Subject: Englishtown

TO: Softswitch.OAS
CC:
FROM: RAY.COSTANZO@TAOFUN1
SUBJECT:  Englishtown

   Well, this sucks.  The show is today, and I volunteered to work tod
   ay before I knew it.  Does someone know the time frame of this show
   ?  The earliest I could arrive would be 4:00.  Would it be worth th
   e 2 hour trip and all?

   Ray Costanzo
   87 409 Cutlass













































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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:40:25 -0700
From: "Greg" <gjackso1@san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 72 Cutlass Supreme parts

For starters I need a complete front Grill including rock guard, front
bumper, and a set of rally II wheels.
Thanks Greg.

- ----------
> From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: 72 Cutlass Supreme parts
> Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 4:08 PM
>
>
>
> Greg wrote:
>
> > Any one In SoCal with 72 Cutlass Supreme Parts for sale.  I am In San
Diego
> > and just bought a 72 to restore.
> > Greg   gjackso1@san.rr.com
>
> What kind of parts do you need?
> We're only one state away.  In Portland, Oregon.
>
>
> Greg Rollin
> Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
> http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
> E-mail: supercars@transport.com
>
>

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:40:00 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Starfire comes home

>
>Anybody have ideas on how I can explain that this was not a
>musclecar? I think of this car as far more luxurious & refined.
>But then, maybe it isn't.


Not musclecar, maybe "Orca" the Killer Whale.
Eat 'em alive, Oldsmobile!

drc

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:15:30 -0400
From: RAY.COSTANZO@firstunion.com
Subject: Englishtown

TO: Softswitch.OAS
CC:
FROM: RAY.COSTANZO@TAOFUN1
SUBJECT:  Englishtown

   Will there be drag racing?

   Ray Costanzo
   87 409 Cutlass
















































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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:46:07 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: New Parts

Hi Awl.

Got some new parts to offer you awl.

70-72 442/rallye rear spoiler.  With all mounting studs $350
73 - 75 442/HO Hood $250  rust free VGC.
74 - 75 Cutlass/442 fenders $150ea.  Southern

Thanks and talk later


Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:57:45 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Web Page update

Hello,
I have just updated my Olds page. I have added a few new Rallye resto
pictures. I also have a chat room, bulletin board and '98 national pictures.
If you stop by, please sign my guestbook!!
http://members.aol.com/DROLDS350/W45.html
Thanks,
Jim McKeague
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/DROLDS350/W45.html">DR OLDS350's Home Page</A>

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:51:13 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: What's c-4? (was re: Chrome valve stem caps)

Perhaps a neutron bomb, it would perserve the car and the neighhood, but so
much for the people. Maybe if you built this cadium bunker, covered it with
barium you might survive. Enough of this.
Lou Biggs

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:22:14 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Chrome valve stem caps

Another option for saving the fate of your chrome valve stem covers
would be go to your local salvage yard, hire the services of a very
ferocious Pit Bull junk yard dog, tie him to the bumper of your Olds
with just enough rope to reach all four wheels and go inside to bed
and worry not..!!! (Must be 18 yrs or older to try this)

Mike..................
Ironto Va



> Perhaps a neutron bomb, it would preserve the car and the neighhood, but so
> much for the people. Maybe if you built this cadium bunker, covered it with
> barium you might survive. Enough of this.
> Lou Biggs


 "The best way to predict the future is to create it...."

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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:04:14 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: What's c-4? and stuff

> Ya know, I'm sorry I started this thread.
> How's about calling in supporting fire from the Missouri?  Peter.
>
> let the bullet play pin ball in their skull turning their brains
> to oatmeal fit for the maggots........
>
> Perhaps a neutron bomb, it would perserve the car and the neighhood,
> but so much for the people.

Jeez, what a demented crew!  Hmm...  Maybe just taking the caps off wasn't such
a "stupid" idea after all?????  :)

> Enough of this.

Sounds like the voice of reason...  Finally :)
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:11:29 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Need parts-63 Olds

Forwarding from a friend today, don't know much about the car (just what's
quoted below...)  Anyone here have any parts leads for him?

> I have a friend who owns a '63 Olds Holiday.  He's looking for some body
> trim parts.  He needs the elbow shaped chrome trim piece above the vent
> window for the passenger side,,, the "Holiday" insignias,,, and the plastic
> trunk ornament.  Any ideas????


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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:30:07 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Web Page update

> I have just updated my Olds page. I have added a few new Rallye resto
> pictures. I also have a chat room, bulletin board and '98 national pictures.
> http://members.aol.com/DROLDS350/W45.html

Jim, looks pretty good!  Couple minor notes, though.  The "bigw31.jpg" link on
the start page links back to itself.  Don't know if that's an oversight or not,
if there's some other page that's ~supposed~ to be taking folks to.

Also, a note on the Parachat room (and this is ~only~ a point, not a request or
suggestion, just a point to consider)  I see yours is linked as #W45CHAT  Is
this a licensed, registerred site?  (They wanted something like $70 a ~month~ 
to
license their chat applet!)  If it's the shareware/unlicensed version, I'm 
under
the impression that they don't keep track of it's position(s) much at all.
Which means that you could, at your discretion and whim, change the page source
to make yours channel #RocketTalk, as can anyone else, thereby hosting the chat
applet on your page, but also simultaneously linking up with any other
RocketTalk chatters, ~most~ of whom are list members.

As said, only a thought, but at times when people try deciding which one to go
to, that would eliminate any need for concerns on their parts.  Also boost
~both~ pages' visits, possibly (make 'em look busier, at least...)  On the same
token, I could change mine to channel #W45CHAT, and work the same.  I've given
others the go-ahead to put up a #RocketTalk channel of their own, though, and
wouldn't want to cut that up.  I don't know if anyone's ever taken up that
offer, but it's there to use.

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:23:19 EDT
From: SHELTERMEN@aol.com
Subject: Re: Englishtown

Ray,
  Just got back.  It's an Olds, Buick, Pontiac show.  There are very few
"show" cars.  It's mostly drag racing.  Plenty of Buicks around.  Maybe 15
Olds'.  No part vendors.  If you want to watch drag racing it's pretty good.
If your looking for parts don't waste your time.
Tim
'68 Delmont
'76 Cutlass Street Stock

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:25:14 EDT
From: SHELTERMEN@aol.com
Subject: Still need intake/carb

I'm still looking for a 4v intake and carb for a '68 350.  Anyone have one
they want to  part with?

Tim
'68 Delmont
'76 Cutlass Street Stock

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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 19:56:57 -0500
From: "Charles A. Dempsey" <cdemps@lsumc.edu>
Subject: 73 H/O. New 26 year old baby.

Hi Folks,

I've got a new 26 year old baby. She's a white '73 Hurst/Olds. I've got
a .jpg of her at
<http://gradsch.shreveport.lsumc.edu/Gradsch/Physiol/73ho/73horf.jpg>

I don't know all the story on this one yet. It was bought new by a kid
who seems to have taken good care of it, except that he rode it hard
(sounds like me :-). He claimed mid 13s in the quarter. The engine broke
in 1979 and he put it in the barn. I retrieved the car yesterday.
Curiously, mice have *not* eaten the wiring and the upholstry.

The car's got 68K on the odometer and from the pedals and seats it looks
real. Everything I've checked is original except the engine. The car has
an assortment of stickers in the trunk like "Hooker Headers", "Crower
Cams", etc. What I know about the engine is;

1. 1972 vintage 455 with Ga heads.
2. Edelbrock Torquer intake.
3. Big Ugly Holly Carb.
4. Yellow (Accel?) coil and coil wires.
5. Tube headers, probably Hooker.

There's two problems with the car;

1. The Previous Owner said the car "was making a tapping sound and when
I revved it up it died". The motor is free. The oil is emulsified with
water, and it leaked from somewhere when I pulled the car up on the
trailer.
2. There's some rust around the vinyl top. Everything else is solid.

So I've got two questions;

1. Is it worth trying to go back with an original '73 motor considering
that it will never be numbers matching, or build something mildly wild.
I've got a line on an inexpensive 455 with marine heads.

2. Anybody know where I can get a repair panel for the vinyl top area?

Thanks in advance for any replies. As usual, please cc: to
cdemps@lsumc.edu since I'm subscribed in digest mode.

If you'd like to see some more pix, take a look at;
the right rear
<http://gradsch.shreveport.lsumc.edu/Gradsch/Physiol/73ho/73horr.jpg>
the front
<http://gradsch.shreveport.lsumc.edu/Gradsch/Physiol/73ho/73hof1.jpg>
the engine
<http://gradsch.shreveport.lsumc.edu/Gradsch/Physiol/73ho/73hoengine.jpg>
the ugly carb
<http://gradsch.shreveport.lsumc.edu/Gradsch/Physiol/73ho/73hocarb.jpg>
 the left rear
<http://gradsch.shreveport.lsumc.edu/Gradsch/Physiol/73ho/73holr.jpg>
and the vinyl top rust
<http://gradsch.shreveport.lsumc.edu/Gradsch/Physiol/73ho/73hovinyltop.jpg>

Hope I got this right. No way to check in advance.

Charles

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:46:26 EDT
From: Supafli50@aol.com
Subject: Re: What's c-4? and stuff

hey,  thanks for stopping the madness and using my idea.  Still works and I
still have my caps./
Matt

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