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oldsmobile-digest     Sunday, September 13 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1480



Re: Car Craft
Re: Car Craft/propane
oldsmobile 442---72 "matching number" and other stuff
Re: newbie - tire sizes
Speedo re-calibration
89 speedo problems
Re: gauges
not getting list are you down
Re: oldsmobile 442---72 "matching number" and other stuff
Re: newbie - tire sizes
SS IV wheels?
1961 Dynamic 88
RE: Body SHop in SF bay area?
Re: Saw My First Alero
new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)
Re: Speedo re-calibration
radiator removal advice
Re: Car Craft
Alero Question
Re: Car Craft/propane
Concept Car - 1954 Cutlass
test, ignore
Sat night cruise night....and BOP nats.
Re: 1961 Dynamic 88
Re: gainsville  win
Re: gainsville  win
Re: SS IV wheels?
Re: 1961 Dynamic 88
Re: Power Steering Services, anybody use them?
test
Re: 403 motor TOM
Re: Speedo re-calibration
Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)
Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)
Re: Speedo re-calibration
Storing Cars
Re: Alero Question
RE: Power Steering Services, anybody use them?
455 motors
HELLO?
Date:	Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:18:15 -0400
ADMIN: List Problems
Re: Concept Car - 1954 Cutlass
Looking for a good daily driver
RE: 455 motors
455 w/a 2.29:1 gear ratio?
Re: 455 w/a 2.29:1 gear ratio?
Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)
Re: HELLO?
Re: 455 w/a 2.29:1 gear ratio?
Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)
Re: HELLO?
include addresses
Re: Storing Cars
Re: Storing Cars
Re: 403 motor TOM
Re: Looking for a good daily driver
Re: Looking for a good daily driver
Re: HELLO?natanata@pac
SS 1 ID
Re: HELLO?natanata@pac
Re: Looking for a good daily driver
Re: Speedo re-calibration
Re: Looking for a good daily driver
Re: Storing Cars

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 09:16:01 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Car Craft

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 02:37:34 -0600 "Igor T. '81 455DRB"
<igor455@home.com> writes:
>If it does turn up to be an SS, lets all sign an angry note and dare
>them to
>print it.  I don't remember the last time they did a project like
>"Cheap
>Street Cutlass" or any other car that was not a Chevy.  Cheap Street
>Chevelle, Heavy Metal I and Heavy Metal II (really liked these two
>thought),
>LT1 60's Camaro, and so on.  Why don't they take a Cutlass, GS, GTO,
>Charger, Valiant and build it up and keep adding to it or make a Heavy
>Metal
>Delta or so.

I like that, heavy metal Delta!  Though that first Impala Heavy metal was
pretty damn cool.  That's why I stole it.  shhhh

I think that the word Oldsmobile has appearerd in Car Craft 23.78% more
oftern since Freiburger though.
They just don't realize the potential of an Olds.


 I like that Magazine and even though they are promising
>change
>I remain skeptical.
>
>Igor Todorovic
>1981 Delta 88 (455/Th400/3.23s)
>1981 Regency (307/200R4/propane)
>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JJP442@aol.com <JJP442@aol.com>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:37 AM
>Subject: Re: Car Craft
>
>
>>Me too!!!!
>>John
>>JJP442@aol.com
>>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 09:17:43 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Car Craft/propane

1981 Regency propane?  A 307 that runs on propane?

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 02:37:34 -0600 "Igor T. '81 455DRB"
<igor455@home.com> writes:
>If it does turn up to be an SS, lets all sign an angry note and dare
>them to
>print it.  I don't remember the last time they did a project like
>"Cheap
>Street Cutlass" or any other car that was not a Chevy.  Cheap Street
>Chevelle, Heavy Metal I and Heavy Metal II (really liked these two
>thought),
>LT1 60's Camaro, and so on.  Why don't they take a Cutlass, GS, GTO,
>Charger, Valiant and build it up and keep adding to it or make a Heavy
>Metal
>Delta or so.  I like that Magazine and even though they are promising
>change
>I remain skeptical.
>
>Igor Todorovic
>1981 Delta 88 (455/Th400/3.23s)
>1981 Regency (307/200R4/propane)







>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JJP442@aol.com <JJP442@aol.com>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:37 AM
>Subject: Re: Car Craft
>
>
>>Me too!!!!
>>John
>>JJP442@aol.com
>>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:16:16 -0600
From: "Marshall A. Priest" <miss_connie@email.msn.com>
Subject: oldsmobile 442---72 "matching number" and other stuff

Hi,
    Can you folks give me some guidelines on restoring a 72 442?
The motor seems weak.  It's the original 350.  Will I destroy the value of
the car if I replace the motor with a NEW 350?  As far as I know at this
time I still have the option of rebuilding the original.  However, I can
only do one or the other.
The car I have has been painted and I hope/plan to restore it to the
original Green and White colors.  Does anyone have any pictures of this
original color ?(int, ext, motor compartment)
Does anyone know where I can get a set of the rally wheels?  Can the rally
wheels be repainted to match the green body paint?
Does anyone live in the Colorado Springs area and wish to help this
no-nothing get the restoration project into gear?  I could very much use a
coach?
Aside from my love for the car I haven't any ideal what the "value" might be
in two to three years once the car is restored is 100%.  How much is the
value impaired if I use the reproduction parts Vs original?  I can't really
imagine ever selling the car, but who know what bills might come down the
line in years to come.
While I very much enjoy the list mailings. It would be easier for me to sort
the mail if you could respond to me directly at Marshall@Priest.com
Thanks
Marshall A. Priest
Colorado Springs

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 09:46:36 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: newbie - tire sizes

>I am a newbie to this list and have been lurking for a couple of weeks
>now. I recently bought an '84 delta 88 royale coupe. It's in excellent
>condition for its age - interior is flawless, exterior no rust, paint very
>good original shape.

I have an 85 Royale 4-dr. Best daily driver I've ever owned. Love it.

> It has 80k on the clock. It has the 307Y 4bbl engine,
>runs flawlessly.

About 1/2 life left, give or take.

> I wonder if they ever offered this model with the '9'
>engine - bummer mine doesn't have it...

Nope. Only Hurst's and 442's had the '9'.

>gotta love the old boats - the thing rides like an airplane. The only
>negative to it (other than lack of a 455) is the th200c tranny, which I
>hear is notorious for failure.

Had one 200C lose reverse after only 70K miles. Had another run 190K and 17
years without a whimper. Go figure. I'm suprised your Delta didn't come with
the overdrive tranny though. My 85 did.

>The only thing it currently needs is tires. It has the stock size
>P205/75/15s on it now, which look 'wimpy' to me.

Mine uses 215/75's and also looks wimpy. I'm not sure what the width limit
is for the factory rims. There's plenty o' room in the wheel wells for more
rubber.

> Any
>ideas on how to get more power out of this engine - cheaply and easily?


The cam could be changed, and then you could add cat back dual exhaust. But
that'd have to be custom made 'cuz no one makes performance pipes for the B
body.

>ps - I have noticed many people on this list w/ similar vintage cars that
>show quite a bit of age, especially rust.

Look under the chrome trim pieces at the bottom of the doors and front
fenders. That's where the rust was hiding on mine. Rear bumper mount too.

drc

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 09:48:38 -0400
From: "Gary J Couse" <gjcouse@mhonline.net>
Subject: Speedo re-calibration

<snip>

So, as you can see, the 225/60 is about 2/3" shorter overall than the 205/70
tire.  This will affect your speedometer reading.  Without re-calibration, a
shorter tire will make your speedometer read faster.

<Q>

How about someone explaining re-calibration processes or links to this info?

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs

1986 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:06:03 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: 89 speedo problems

Hello there.
My father's a mechanic and he has come across a problem.  He's working on
an 89 Cutlass Cierra, and it has speedo problems.  For no reason, the
speedo sometimes jumps around when the car is not moving.  These cars
were the firs year for elctronically controlled speedometers.  The guage
is analog, it's the cable that was replaced with electronic things.  Does
anyone know what electronic things there are between the trans and the
speedo, or has anyone dealt with this problem?  The speedo head has been
replaced and that didn't help.  My Dad appreciates any help.

What makes my Dad cool:  He's only bought one new car in his life.  In
1980 he bought a Riviera.  He got basically all the options and created
an option of his own.  He rejected the Buick engine and specially ordered
an Olds 350 in it.   The coolest Riviera not on the road.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:08:25 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: gauges

>Can anyone tell me how to check a mechanical oil pressure gauge that is
>not in the car, without hooking it up to an engine?
>
>Jim...


You could connect the sender to an air compressor and check the gage against
the one on the compressor or against any other pressure gage you have that
can be hooked to the air line at the same time.

drc

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:08:21 -0400
From: "Rob Lewis" <fever@planeteer.com>
Subject: not getting list are you down



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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:14:11 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: oldsmobile 442---72 "matching number" and other stuff

As far as the value of this car, there's a 71 or 2  Cutlass S for sale
close by here that is _nicely_, not perfectly, restored with an asking
price of $8500.  and that's just an S

If I were you, I'd determine engine choice by how much work the rest of
the car needs.  If the car doesn't need much work, swap in the new motor,
and then _you_ can slowly rebuild the other one at your leisure.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:19:55 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: newbie - tire sizes

Hey newbie,

Carry a spare fuel pump with you.  When i had my 84 88, the fuel pump
went out on I25 in New Mexico.  While I was gone for about ten minutes
calling for a tow, some bastards smashed my window and stole all my stuff
out my car.  They also tried to steal the car, but obviously it couldn't
happen.  It's not nice to disrespect an Oldsmobile.
When I got the car, it had 137k miles on it, and it made it from Philly
to Tucson and back to Philly with no problems other than the fuel pump.
Oh yeah, and that car did ride so nice.  Better than the orseback-ride
feel of my Cutlass.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:33:21 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: SS IV wheels?

Saw an 80's Delta with sporty wheels and I wonder if they were the SSIV
type. Had really big center caps with Rockets but no red background. The
caps sorta clamped on, there were 5 spaces around each where they looked
like maybe tabs held them into slots on the wheel. There were polished trim
rings.

The car was beat and the wheels looked nasty. Kinda funky with white walls
too.

Anyone know what these are? Are they rare? I wonder if they were originally
painted, or if they could be chromed. I want some kind of chrome wheels for
my Delta but they GOTTA have red & silver Rockets.

drc

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:57:06 -0400
From: Mark Hillman <mhillman@ebtech.net>
Subject: 1961 Dynamic 88

Hi,

I'm new to the list and new to Oldsmobiles for that matter.  I recently
acquired a 1961 Olds Dynamic 88.  I believe it's a 'Holiday Coupe'.  I'm
beginning my search for info and would appreciate any tips, web sites,
FAQ's etc that would apply to this vehicle.  I need a rear window and am
wondering if the 88 shares any parts with other GM vehicles.

Any help appreciated.
Mark

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:02:48 -0700
From: "Corey Day" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RE: Body SHop in SF bay area?

There are a couple in Petaluma
Let me know what kind of car you want painted and I send the contact info
fir the best choice.

Corey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Jeff & Sherie
> Stanish
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 1998 7:10 PM
> To: OLDS NET
> Subject: Body SHop in SF bay area?
>
>
> Anybody know of a 1st class body shop in the SF bay area?   I would like a
> show quality job without breaking the bank too much.
>
> Jeff Stanish
>
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:58:36 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Saw My First Alero

> No pricing yet, but I liked their looks. They seemed bigger than a
> Cavalier, I guess they are based on the Grand Am platform.

I saw an ad in today's paper.  In the Tampa, FL area, they listed the
starting price of an Alero for 16,800 U.S. but that included all the
incentives.  So I kinda figure for around 20K U.S. plus or minus, you
can get one decently equipped.  And yes, those 2 door versions are very
sharp, considering all the cars are starting to look alike again.....at
least they still remember that not EVERYONE who wants an Olds needs a
4-door.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 11:40:33 -0400
From: "derricklclark" <derricklclark@email.msn.com>
Subject: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)

I recently placed my 72 cut sup conv 455 in the shop for some much needed
repairs. I had problems finding a shop I felt comfortable with leaving my
car, so I took it to the dealer.
We all know the dealer charges more. So my question is, Should I pay new car
labor rates for an older car thats easier to repair?
 Please rspond asap, for I will picking my car up mon or tues sept 14-15.
                                                                  Thanks

peace of mind:)

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 11:40:26 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Speedo re-calibration

If you go to a transmission shop...or the dealer...give them the stock tire
size (i.e. the size the speedometer was calibrated to) and then give them
the current tire size.  They should be able to give you the proper speedo
gear...either for them to install or for you to install.  I'm sure that for
50 bucks, the tranny shop would be happy to install it for you.

Jason Adcock
E-mail: rocketolds@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary J Couse <gjcouse@mhonline.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 9:51 AM
Subject: Speedo re-calibration


><snip>
>
>So, as you can see, the 225/60 is about 2/3" shorter overall than the
205/70
>tire.  This will affect your speedometer reading.  Without re-calibration,
a
>shorter tire will make your speedometer read faster.
>
><Q>
>
>How about someone explaining re-calibration processes or links to this
info?

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:04:20 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: radiator removal advice

Hey

Well, I'll be removing my radiator today to give it a good upside-down
flushing.  If anyone has any advice or suggestions on effective flush
methods or products, or warnings of what to avoid, etc. I'd appreciate it
very much.  87 Cutlass, by the way.  Thanks!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:56:04 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Car Craft

quite a few years ago (when I was in high school) Hot rod did a build up on
a 69 cutlass s they put a 455 budget rebuild in it with a th350
a 4.10 posi 12 bolt headers and dual exhaust took it to the drag strip
and ran not unrespectable times low 13 as I recall popular hot rodding did a
g body drag car called project "O" 350 olds powered did 10's in the quarter
then they upgraded to a 455 to try for the 9's dont know if they made it
- -----Original Message-----
From: Igor T. '81 455DRB <igor455@home.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: Car Craft


>If it does turn up to be an SS, lets all sign an angry note and dare them
to
>print it.  I don't remember the last time they did a project like "Cheap
>Street Cutlass" or any other car that was not a Chevy.  Cheap Street
>Chevelle, Heavy Metal I and Heavy Metal II (really liked these two
thought),
>LT1 60's Camaro, and so on.  Why don't they take a Cutlass, GS, GTO,
>Charger, Valiant and build it up and keep adding to it or make a Heavy
Metal
>Delta or so.  I like that Magazine and even though they are promising
change
>I remain skeptical.
>
>Igor Todorovic
>1981 Delta 88 (455/Th400/3.23s)
>1981 Regency (307/200R4/propane)
>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JJP442@aol.com <JJP442@aol.com>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:37 AM
>Subject: Re: Car Craft
>
>
>>Me too!!!!
>>John
>>JJP442@aol.com
>>
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:17:28 -0400
From: jgoble@nishanet.com (Jeramy Goble)
Subject: Alero Question

Quick Question: Does anyone know when they'll offer the Alero with a manual
tranny??


Jeramy

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:25:35 -0600
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Car Craft/propane

Yup, propane.  It has 240,000kms on it and runs beautiful.  Propane is a
great fuel.  I get 20 mpg on it (200R4 and 2.56s) and propane here is 1/2
the price of fuel so like 40 mpg.  Propane also runs lots cleaner so oil
change every 7000miles, and the bottom end looks brand new.  The only thing
I think of doing is change the timing chain and cam (while I am at it).
Then maybe I will have the valve seats made for propane.  On Olds, even with
stock valves propane works great.  I would recomend this fuel to anyone.
BUT, as you can imagine, it is absolutley gutless.  It has a 1bbl propane
mixer, so no pickup.  When the tank is near empty, pressure is lower and
power is not there.  But, that is why I am making MY 'Heavy Metal' Delta.
Almost done thought, but painjob is going to cost me lots.

Igor Todorovic
1981 Delta 88 (455/Th400/3.23s)
1981 Regency (307/200R4/propane)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ray Costanzo <rocket409@juno.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Car Craft/propane


>1981 Regency propane?  A 307 that runs on propane?
>
>Ray Costanzo
>87 409 Cutlass
>
>Rocket409@juno.com
>
>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 02:37:34 -0600 "Igor T. '81 455DRB"
><igor455@home.com> writes:
>>If it does turn up to be an SS, lets all sign an angry note and dare
>>them to
>>print it.  I don't remember the last time they did a project like
>>"Cheap
>>Street Cutlass" or any other car that was not a Chevy.  Cheap Street
>>Chevelle, Heavy Metal I and Heavy Metal II (really liked these two
>>thought),
>>LT1 60's Camaro, and so on.  Why don't they take a Cutlass, GS, GTO,
>>Charger, Valiant and build it up and keep adding to it or make a Heavy
>>Metal
>>Delta or so.  I like that Magazine and even though they are promising
>>change
>>I remain skeptical.
>>
>>Igor Todorovic
>>1981 Delta 88 (455/Th400/3.23s)
>>1981 Regency (307/200R4/propane)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: JJP442@aol.com <JJP442@aol.com>
>>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>>Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:37 AM
>>Subject: Re: Car Craft
>>
>>
>>>Me too!!!!
>>>John
>>>JJP442@aol.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:36:13 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Concept Car - 1954 Cutlass

There was some mention recently of the Cutalss concept car.  I've just
posted a picture of it on my web page if anyone is interested.

http://www.erols.com/old442/conc-cut.jpg

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
OCA# 30442

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:36:01 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: test, ignore

Sent to "olds"

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 11:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sat night cruise night....and BOP nats.

Morning everyone,
        Last night we got to take "Topless" to cruise night...got to
cruise with the V-8....much better. Did a little 5.slow hunting...:).
Had prolly 200+ cars there (pics coming soon). Even had a nice attempt
at a 70 W-31...black,white stripes,though not totally  correct.
The rear spoiler was mounted about 4" too high, wrong spoiler to boot.
The guy tried to pass the car off as all original....not good. Think
he got kinda ticked when  I said "I didn't know they put "Sun" tachs
and CD players in 'em in "70" :)
        Had a good turnout over all, about 10 Olds out there, one 66
442 obviously all original, not touched....nice rust everywhere, torn
interior...but he IS working on it this winter....4-speed car, next
year this car will prolly look nice, some 67's, 70 convert, 68
convert., and a "70....Dark charcoal met, Shaved door handles....but
at least this kid was enjoying the car and not passing it off as orig.
         Lots of G-body offerings too, some GN's, Monte SS, Olds too.
I'll post some pics when they get developed.
       Bop southern Nats is next week in Commerce...anybody here in Ga
going? They're having a car show, drag racing <GM muscle vs. GM
muscle...ah what a thought :)>, and a swap meet.
               Later,
                     SMAN




==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:07:33 -0400
From: "bill" <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Subject: Re: 1961 Dynamic 88

I have a 1961 98 Sport Sedan.  It can be quite fun getting parts for the
car, such as trim parts.  Mechanical parts are, for the most part, easily
obtained.  If you are not familiar with Hemmings Motor News, I highly
suggest you pick up a copy at a local well supplied newstand.  Also, join
the OCA and NAOC as they both have magazines with vendors in them.  Also,
the OCA has local chapters.

Glass can be obtained through Hemmings, Cars and Parts, etc.  or at shows
like Carlise and Hershey both in PA and coming up soon.  I suspect your
glass is the same as a Chevy, Pontiac, or Buick.  Mine has the wraparound
rear windshield and looks the same as the Pontiac and Buick of that year
although I do not know for cetain that it will fit.  (Doesn't seem like they
would make that type different for each line so guess yours would also be
the same for equivalent model.)  Another book to obtain is the Hollander
Interchange Manual which shows what goes with what.

Drop me a line at my email and we can discuss further.  Also where are you
located?

Bill Pritchett
lewman@mindpulse.com


- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Lewman <Lewman>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 10:51 AM
Subject: 1961 Dynamic 88


>
>Hi,
>
>I'm new to the list and new to Oldsmobiles for that matter.  I recently
>acquired a 1961 Olds Dynamic 88.  I believe it's a 'Holiday Coupe'.  I'm
>beginning my search for info and would appreciate any tips, web sites,
>FAQ's etc that would apply to this vehicle.  I need a rear window and am
>wondering if the 88 shares any parts with other GM vehicles.
>
>Any help appreciated.
>Mark
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:40:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: gainsville  win

- ---"B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net> wrote:
>
> Well we made it to the final round last night and got first place
> trophy. The olds realy has its sh t together .It was turning 7.42 at
> 92.02 in the 1/8 and 1.67 60 ft .it kicked ass on dot street legal..
> lethel to the fords and chevys   Butch 68 442 post
>
> Butch,
      Congrats on the 1st place!!!Does this mean shortly I might get a
Burnout/launch pic?:)
        SMAN

==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:56:53 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: gainsville  win

B. Vosburgh wrote:
>
> Well we made it to the final round last night and got first place
> trophy. The olds realy has its sh t together .It was turning 7.42 at
> 92.02 in the 1/8 and 1.67 60 ft .it kicked ass on dot street legal..
> lethel to the fords and chevys   Butch 68 442 post

congrats butch! that's an inspiration to those of us who have our cheap
bracket build-ups (or expensive...) still sitting unmolested in our back
yards or driveways! It's great to know that an Olds is finally on top,
isn't it?

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:45:22 EDT
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: SS IV wheels?

In a message dated 9/13/98 10:35:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
david.cullen@snet.net writes:

<<
 Saw an 80's Delta with sporty wheels and I wonder if they were the SSIV
 type. Had really big center caps with Rockets but no red background. The
 caps sorta clamped on, there were 5 spaces around each where they looked
 like maybe tabs held them into slots on the wheel. There were polished trim
 rings.

 The car was beat and the wheels looked nasty. Kinda funky with white walls
 too.

 Anyone know what these are? Are they rare? I wonder if they were originally
 painted, or if they could be chromed. I want some kind of chrome wheels for
 my Delta but they GOTTA have red & silver Rockets.
  >>
   These super stock wheels were used on 1977-85 Delta's They are a 15X7 wheel
and the Ornament snaps on just like the smaller ornaments used on the 1975-88
Cutlass's. Those larger ornament cover the lug nuts and were discontinued June
of 1998. I have these wheels  on my Oldsmobile Pickup  (S-10)  and on my 1971
Vista Cruiser, they are nice looking and allow for the larger tires


Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:29:06 EDT
From: SIDIALI@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1961 Dynamic 88

Mark,
  I am a new owner of a '60 Dynamic.  If you find anything, let me know, I'll
do the same.
Alex Killian
'60 Dynamic88 Sedan
'68 Cutlass Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:09:30 EDT
From: DEOVIVERE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Power Steering Services, anybody use them?

In a message dated 98-09-12 22:23:01 EDT, you write:

<< Has any one used Power Steering Services Springfield MO.
 to rebuild their Steering Gearbox?
 Pleased with their work? etc?

 Jeff Stanish >>


Jeff

I bought a 12:1 ratio steering box in June for my 65 Cutlass from the guy
there (I forget his name right now) and found him to be very informative and
prompt.  He answered all my questions and gave me a product that I have but
praise for.  The improvement to the handling of my car was marked (of course I
also put in front discs, 1 1/4 sway bar, 480 pound springs, complete front end
kit, and offset upper control arm shafts).  I consider the box I got from him
to be one of the key parts of my new suspension.  It makes all the difference
in the world.

Tom Simmons
65 Cutlass/442 clone
70 SX W-32

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:36:31 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: test

sent to actual address
3:24

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:29:05 -0400
From: Don Casteel <dcasteel@gcnet.net>
Subject: Re: 403 motor TOM

Hi, I have a '37 Olds Coupe and I'm going to put a "403" engine in it and make 
a
streetrod.  The engine is out of a '77 Toro.  I have a 350 and a 400 auto 
trans,
I'm not sure yet which one I'm going to use.  Do you have any information you
could share with me on building up the 403?  I want an engine that will be
dependable to drive, but one with good pep too!  Thank you!
Don

Olds409@aol.com wrote:

> Hey Tom,
>
> Any continued discussion about 403 engine should be sent to this address.  My
> First Union account is getting on my nerves, so I'm doing the 100 free 
minutes
> of AOL for a while.  See ya.
>
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass





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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:45:04 EDT
From: KWhite5590@aol.com
Subject: Re: Speedo re-calibration

how about this.

 Here is a link to <A HREF="http://www.speedometershop.com/">The Speedometer
Shop. Wholesale and retail in...</A> . Any one with Speedo problems check this
place
out.

Kevin White
83 CSB, FE3X clone
86 CS

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:56:38 EDT
From: Sx455@aol.com
Subject: Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)

In a message dated 98-09-13 11:37:57 EDT, you write:

<<  I had problems finding a shop I felt comfortable with leaving my
 car, so I took it to the dealer. >>
you need to ask around (friends,co-workers ,even call a local car club) there
should be a trustworthy independent garage in your area. taking your car to a
dealer is not the answer, those mechanics in the shop probably know less about
your older car than you do! most larger dealers will only have one or two true
techs and then a bunch of other guys who are basically just parts replacers.
ive worked in dealerships before and know how there system ticks ,theyve got
to have those low pay scale parts replacers to pay that healthy overhead . i
own a independent repair shop and word of mouth has been my best advertising
tool for many years! ask around, most people will be quite frank about their
experiences with garages! sx455

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:30:45 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)

I WOULD NOT take it to a dealer, for 2 simple facts. First the mechanics
are mostly trained with NEWER vehicles and so that type of expertise is NOT
needed for your car. Second the labor charge will drain your wallet of $$$.
Take it to a place where the place is clean(that is a sign that the owner
and mechanics are neat and meticulous). Get an estimate on what will be
done to it. Also ask if they warranty the work.

By the way, what type of work are you having done to your car? If you live
in the Chicago-land area, I know of a few great mechanics, including
myself(pat myself on the back).
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: derricklclark <derricklclark@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)
> Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 10:40 AM
>
> I recently placed my 72 cut sup conv 455 in the shop for some much needed
> repairs. I had problems finding a shop I felt comfortable with leaving my
> car, so I took it to the dealer.
> We all know the dealer charges more. So my question is, Should I pay new
car
> labor rates for an older car thats easier to repair?
>  Please rspond asap, for I will picking my car up mon or tues sept 14-15.
>                                                                   Thanks
>
> peace of mind:)
>
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:25:05 EDT
From: GChris1511@aol.com
Subject: Re: Speedo re-calibration

Gary on the cars that I have been involved with the dealer calibrated the
speedometer in his shop.  This involved putting the car on a treadmill like
device operating it to a known value, then looking at the speedo to see what
it read.  When the numbers did not match he changed a gear in the tranny
connected to the speedo cable.  They used a gear with more teeth to slow and
use a gear with less teeth to pick up the speedometer as I remember.
Hope this answers your question.
Jerry C

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:17:03 -0500
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Storing Cars

Hi everyone,

Since it's a particularly slow day on the list...

I've been reminded by the weather that winter is not too
terribly far away. And it's getting to be time for those of
us in the rust belt to put our prized possessions away
until spring.

This has probably been covered countless times, but
since it's my first winter on the list, I was just wondering
what storage tips you guys have to get the maximum
protection for you cars. In the past, I've just driven it into
the garage, put a car cover over it, and said "see ya
next year". I'm sure this isn't the *best* way to store an
automobile, especially an Oldsmobile. :-)

So, what should I do? Remove battery, tires...any tips
would be appreciated.

Thanks,

- -Mark Tupper    1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net        http://www.cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:24:28 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@cchat.com>
Subject: Re: Alero Question

Jeramy Goble wrote:
>
> Quick Question: Does anyone know when they'll offer the Alero with a manual
> tranny??

I am hearing mid-99 model year...

It will only get the 4-Cyl though...  :(

I was kinda hoping for a Supercharged 3800 w/ 5Spd...  Now wouldn't that
turn some heads!!!
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:53:36 -0500
From: "Kijowski, Stan" <SKIJOWSKI@midland.com>
Subject: RE: Power Steering Services, anybody use them?

very pleased with work and how friendly he was. i was very surprised  and
happy with the changes in response in steering.

> ----------
> From: 	Jeff & Sherie Stanish[SMTP:stanishj@svpal.org]
> Reply To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: 	Saturday, September 12, 1998 9:07 PM
> To: 	OLDS NET
> Subject: 	Power Steering Services, anybody use them?
>
> Has any one used Power Steering Services Springfield MO.
> to rebuild their Steering Gearbox?
> Pleased with their work? etc?
>
> Jeff Stanish
>
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:53:14 -0500
From: Tom Williams <tjwilli@megavision.com>
Subject: 455 motors

I am intrested in some information on 455's. I am looking at a 1970 455
that needs a rebuild but was in decent shape when pulled from the car.
The 70 has the E heads on it. I am also looking at a 1975 455 with the J
heads and has a pretty fresh rebuild on it now. The 70 455 will take
$200.00 to buy and the 75 will take $150.00 to buy.
I do know the 70 has much better heads and also higher compression.
My question is, does the older 455's have much thicker cylinder walls
than say a 75 455? and or can you build up the 75 455 with out many
problems or no?
I think I am just going to buy both of them, but for now I am looking
for just a good driver motor for the 70 CS I have and feel the 75 would
be suffice if I put in HEI, Aluminum Intake, and a good Holley or
Edelbrock carb for now.
I do know ahead of time that many olds enthusiast hate the J heads, but
this can be fixed latter, you still will have a boat load of torque in
the motor good flowing heads or not.

Thanks for any and all answers,

Tom Williams
70 CS

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:53:04 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: HELLO?

If this gets to the list, could some please respond to me privately and
tell me?  Thanks!

Rocket409@juno.com

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:18:15 -0400
From: "Gary J Couse" <gjcouse@mhonline.net>
Subject: Date:	Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:18:15 -0400

Anyone see the Oct. edition of Hot Rodding? Pg. 32-33 is a spread on Jim
Martino's 1970 442. It's sharp. It's Pro Stock - Show with (aurg) a ch*vy
454 supercharged rat in it. Hey, Why, oh why, great Olds God, Did you not
compel him to blow a 455...

Gary.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs
1986 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:01:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: List Problems

As I expected -- as happens every time they do an upgrade here -- Chebucto
is having tons of problems following a system change. Most of the time I
can barely log on and system performance has slowed to a crawl. So my
admin duties will be limited the next little while. Please try to manage
things on your own as much as you can.

They are saying a week or so to sort things out, and have asked us to
limit mail volume during that time. So I'm asking, please think before you
post, limit unnecessary quoting in follow-ups, and generally do what you
can to keep volume down. Thanks!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:03:50 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Concept Car - 1954 Cutlass

Kurt Heinrich wrote:
>
> There was some mention recently of the Cutalss concept car.  I've just
> posted a picture of it on my web page if anyone is interested.
>
> http://www.erols.com/old442/conc-cut.jpg

I know it's an Olds, but......eww. No thanks. Something about that huge
hatch and the large fins just isn't too tasty.

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:03:26 EDT
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Looking for a good daily driver

I am getting ready to get another car, and I want somethig distinctive. Older
...maybe pre '80, Olds would be nice, but not necessary. Must be a clean
daily-driver type with AC, but not a rare high-dollar type car. I just don't
want something that I'll see driving toward me on the road every day.

Anybody within 250 miles of Knoxville TN have anything interesting for sale?

Cheers/Carron

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:08:30 -0400
From: "Gary J Couse" <gjcouse@mhonline.net>
Subject: RE: 455 motors

Fess up a contact for either engine you choose not to take. I'll stand in
line.

Gary

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Couse Customs

1986 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS

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<>-----Original Message-----
<>From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
<>[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Tom Williams
<>Sent: Sunday, September 13, 1998 7:53 PM
<>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
<>Subject: 455 motors
<>
<>
<>I am intrested in some information on 455's. I am looking at a 1970 455
<>that needs a rebuild but was in decent shape when pulled from the car.
<>The 70 has the E heads on it. I am also looking at a 1975 455 with the J
<>heads and has a pretty fresh rebuild on it now. The 70 455 will take
<>$200.00 to buy and the 75 will take $150.00 to buy.
<>I do know the 70 has much better heads and also higher compression.
<>My question is, does the older 455's have much thicker cylinder walls
<>than say a 75 455? and or can you build up the 75 455 with out many
<>problems or no?
<>I think I am just going to buy both of them, but for now I am looking
<>for just a good driver motor for the 70 CS I have and feel the 75 would
<>be suffice if I put in HEI, Aluminum Intake, and a good Holley or
<>Edelbrock carb for now.
<>I do know ahead of time that many olds enthusiast hate the J heads, but
<>this can be fixed latter, you still will have a boat load of torque in
<>the motor good flowing heads or not.
<>
<>Thanks for any and all answers,
<>
<>Tom Williams
<>70 CS
<>

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:18:42 PDT
From: "Justin Brickey" <cutlass260@hotmail.com>
Subject: 455 w/a 2.29:1 gear ratio?

I am in the process of dropping in a 455 into my '79 Cutlass. It has the
2.29:1 gear ratio with limited slip.  What will this combo result in?
Smoked tires, or what?

Justin Brickey
'79 Cutlass Supreme Brougham

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:25:53 EDT
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: 455 w/a 2.29:1 gear ratio?

In a message dated 98-09-13 21:23:46 EDT, you write:

<< I am in the process of dropping in a 455 into my '79 Cutlass. It has the
 2.29:1 gear ratio with limited slip.  What will this combo result in?
 Smoked tires, or what?
  >>

 Broken axles?? I'm not sure..had the 2.29 against my 403, pinion bearing went
bad, probably not from the motor though...that 455 might push the limits of
these rear ends, especially that high gear ratio. (GREAT on the freeway
though!)  Dorian

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 09:33:00 -0400
From: Andy Mikesell <andymikesell@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)

FYI - I just had my carb tuned here in MA at a local station for $45 / hour.
They charged for one hour, but it probably took 15 mins.  Then again, the tune
is perfect.
- - Andy

derricklclark wrote:

> I recently placed my 72 cut sup conv 455 in the shop for some much needed
> repairs. I had problems finding a shop I felt comfortable with leaving my
> car, so I took it to the dealer.
> We all know the dealer charges more. So my question is, Should I pay new car
> labor rates for an older car thats easier to repair?
>  Please rspond asap, for I will picking my car up mon or tues sept 14-15.
>                                                                   Thanks
>
> peace of mind:)

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:26:18 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: HELLO?

Yea, I see ya. And all the other "test" posts.

Ray Costanzo wrote:

> If this gets to the list, could some please respond to me privately and
> tell me?  Thanks!
>
> Rocket409@juno.com
>
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass
>
> Rocket409@juno.com
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:32:47 -0700
From: natanata@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 455 w/a 2.29:1 gear ratio?

Hi....I'm getting your email to the above address....I've already
reported this to the main address..Or, is this the way this service
operates? I really don't want a copy (or original) of everybody's
posting.

Perhaps you could check the board t see if your posting is on there.
>From what I remember, it said it would take about 4 days for the posting
to show up.

Confused,

Katy

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:34:23 -0700
From: natanata@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: new labor rates ( 60 $ per hour)

Hi

Don't know why, but I'm getting your email to above add. I just
subscribed....

Can't figure this out. I'm getting avalanched with all the postings.

Could you write them and tell them.. I already did.

Thanks,
Katy

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:39:55 -0700
From: natanata@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: HELLO?

Hi Ray

Can you tell me if the email you sent is TO the oldsmobile WEB SITE?
AND, am I supposed to be getting copies of this? If so, I'm getting 20
at least every half hour. I thought I just subscribed to a discussion
BOARD.....not email from the whole country.

Any way....I got it

Thanks,
Katy

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:37:49 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: include addresses

I don't know if it's only my system, but some people's addresses do not
appear and are not available for private reply.  And now with Chebucto
looking for a fight, it'd be better send 1 on 1 as often as possible.  So
if y'all could include addresses in your sig's, it'd be cool.  Especially
g-body and 403 guys!

a spelling bee is on espn2

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:27:56 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Storing Cars

My car sat in a storage garage over this past summer (gasp!) in Tucson.
I didn't even put my windows up.  Then while I was until I got back to my
car I had nightmares of rats and birds' nests in my car.  I didn't sleep
all summer.

It was fine though, praise the Lolrds.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

Rocket409@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:25:22 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Storing Cars

Don't bring it up too soon!
When i store my car, I just disconnect my battery and wash it real good
before.  Maybe I should leave a layer of dirt on it as a protective
shell. ha
Draining coolant is a good idea, perhaps.

At the end of the sad season, return to storage place with a "jump and
carry" and disconnect the distributor and crank the engine until you get
oil pressure.  Then plug the distibutor back in and do one smokey burnout
out of the unit of storage.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:56:40 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: 403 motor TOM

Hey Don,
Sounds nice...
Even just a stock 403 will give you good pep, and will of course be very
dependaple.
Nothing in my 403 is stock except the crank and I've driven the car from
Philly to Tucson (about 2450 miles).  Then from Tucson to Las Vegas to do
the Hot Rod Power Tour and back to Philly and back to Philly area (about
4000 miles).  No problems with the 403 during either trip.
I also took the car to LA and Jersey, so it's been coast to coast.  (Did
a cool burnout in Beverly Hills) ;+)  I have had problems, but they're
the same problems I've had with other engines, stock and non, so...
Still being quite streetable, I have a 13 second car.  (I it could be
12's with some work and still be fine to drive) let me know what you'd
like to know.

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                                   Hilltown, PA

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:42:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a good daily driver

- ---SpeedCom@aol.com wrote:
>
> I am getting ready to get another car, and I want somethig
distinctive. Older
> ...maybe pre '80, Olds would be nice.......snip.....Anybody within
250 miles of Knoxville TN have anything interesting for sale?


- ---Ive got a couple of leads on some G-body's (78-87), hit me direct
if interested.
             SMAN
==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:00:39 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Looking for a good daily driver

How about a Y*m*h* motorcycle?  $1500   he he

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                                   Hilltown, PA

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:10:34 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: HELLO?natanata@pac

What? When I hit reply to sender only, it pulls up the Olds address?
But it says it's from "natanata@pac" no ".com" or anything though?
I didn't get any posts all day, maybe you're getting all my mail and
yours!
eh?
Now I just noticed I'm getting everything twice!
I think Chebucto is drunk.


Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                                   Hilltown, PA

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:12:05 -0700
From: mitzm@earthlink.net
Subject: SS 1 ID

I've been on the list since nearly the nearly the beginning, almost
entirely as a lurker on the digest mode. All the olds-mania is great.

I like to cruise the pick-a-part yards in the LA area every couple of
months looking for the little stuff to keep my 70 CS going and maybe
upgrade it a bit.

This last time out I came across a 14 inch SS 1 wheel with an Olds center
cap bolted on.  The wheel is all chrome except for the black painted areas,
no trim rings.  The center cap is pot metal, a bit bigger than a shot glass
and is bolted to the hole in the hub using a retainer plate on the back and
two bolts.  The style of the logo on the cap is identical to that on the
60s-70s SS IIs.  When I got it home and popped off the tire it measured out
to a 6 inch rim :( with "14x6 JK" stamped inside the rim.  Is this the 60s
SS 1 that doesn't fit disk brakes or is this a dime-a-dozen 80's wheel?
Because of the old style center cap I was thinking it was an older wheel
but the fact that it looks like it would clear disks makes me wonder.  The
Year One catalog lists the 60's as being the only 14x6 SS 1 but I suspect
there may have been a similar wheel made for the G bodies but with a snap
on center cap.

In any case, I only bought it out of curiosity and the thought that it
might be of interest to somebody else as I am about to upgrade my CS to
15x7 SS 2s with bolt on center caps.  Any body want it?

Hans Naepflin
70 CS Convertible 252000 miles and rolling!

Mitzm@mail.earthlink.net

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:04:37 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Re: HELLO?natanata@pac

Ray..You seem to be the only person having this sort of problem..!! I have been
getting and sneding mail to and from the list sucessfully all week-end..!!



Mike...............




From:          rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)

What? When I hit reply to sender only, it pulls up the Olds address?
But it says it's from "natanata@pac" no ".com" or anything though?
I didn't get any posts all day, maybe you're getting all my mail and
yours!
eh?
Now I just noticed I'm getting everything twice!
I think Chebucto is drunk.


Ray Costanzo

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:19:31 EDT
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a good daily driver

In a message dated 9/13/98
 9:<BR05:<BR04 PM Central Daylight Tim, rocket409@juno.com writes:

> How about a Y*m*h* motorcycle?  $1500   he he

No, thanks, Ray.

*Motorcycles* are made in England :-)

(or Italy)

Cheeers/Carron

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:22:52 EDT
From: GChris1511@aol.com
Subject: Re: Speedo re-calibration

Good Work Kevin!  I'd like to think that someday I'll learn to post notes with
web acess like that also.
Jerry C

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:24:02 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a good daily driver

Dunno about that.  I had a 650cc BSA.  I always thought the bike was
designed in England, but manufactured in hell.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: SpeedCom@aol.com <SpeedCom@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for a good daily driver


>In a message dated 9/13/98
> 9:<BR05:<BR04 PM Central Daylight Tim, rocket409@juno.com writes:
>
>> How about a Y*m*h* motorcycle?  $1500   he he
>
>No, thanks, Ray.
>
>*Motorcycles* are made in England :-)
>
>(or Italy)
>
>Cheeers/Carron

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:29:36 EDT
From: TimLeary97@aol.com
Subject: Re: Storing Cars

I'm happy to say I can't help you, and I don't have a clue.

Top down year round in Dallas Texas.

64 F85 Cutlass Convertible

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