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oldsmobile-digest      Wednesday, August 5 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1408



Choke on a performer intake
Re: EGR blockoff
Re: POSI NEEDED
Re: 200R4 info
Re: Choke on a performer intake
Re: How fast?
Re: How fast?
65-67 400-425
Re: 200R4 info
More Stuff
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Re: 200R4 info
aftermarket shifter and bench seat
1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}
Re: News Item
Re: engine swapping
Re: 200R4 info
Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}
Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}
Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}
Re: Olds Smokey
diesel swap
Re: aftermarket shifter and bench seat
Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}
Re: SPRINGS 67 f85 425bb
Re: POSI NEEDED
RE: Fuel Lines for a 425 1966
Attn: OCA Members! (Important) (fwd)
UNBOUNCE: diesel swap
Olds books.....
Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}
Package Tray Redux
Re: POSI NEEDED
who has the best "kung-fu" ?
need help
Re: EGR blockoff
Re: need help
Re: Things to do!
Re: How fast?
68-69 Rallye Pack
Cutlass Sierra '86
Re: EGR blockoff
Re: How much $$$ 4 Ram-Air Setup
F28
Re: Things to do!
Re: need help
Re: ATTENTION LIST MEMBERS!!!
Re: How much $$$ 4 Ram-Air Setup
Leaky Windshield (was: How do I remove windshield from 74 98)
UNBOUNCE: F28 Touring

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:57:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Welsh <dlwels@yahoo.com>
Subject: Choke on a performer intake

Just finishing up on the '69 350 rebuild. One small problem, the
original choke spring and housing doesn't fit in the hole in the new
performer intake manifold.  What is the best, easiest, cheapest (any
option of the three is OK) way to replace the original choke?  I
really don't much care for manual chokes and don't have the cash for a
new carb.  Any suggestions?




==
Dave Welsh  dlwels@yahoo.com
1553 Read Road
Janesville, Wisconsin 53546
(608) 756-4352

'70 Cutlass S "on the way"
'69 Cutlass "soon to be parts car" Supreme
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:51:16 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: EGR blockoff

EGR  Exhaust Gas Recirculator
Helps Performance when tuned right, reduces pinging, lowers emissions.
Tried it on my old 83 CS Brougham as well.
my.02
>>>Brett
____________

Sorry, Brett, but I must disagree.  The primary purpose of EGR (as was
correctly pointed out in a prior post) is to dillute the incoming air/fuel
mixture with exhaust gas to make combustion less efficient (and cooler) and
thus lower emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOX).  A reduction in pinging
is a coincidence, but by no means does EGR improve performance.  Making
combustion less efficient never helps.  Unfortunately, reducing NOX
requires methods which are exactly the opposite of those required to reduce
CO and HC (both of which are reduced by making combustion _more_
efficient), resulting in a delicate balancing act on the part of
automakers.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:58:20 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: POSI NEEDED

In a message dated 98-08-05 15:51:58 EDT, you write:

<< Guys! Guys! Guys! Take it easy.... I'm looking in Jeg's right now, and i
 see a 12-bolt posi by AuburnGear for 65-72 4.10-up for $380. Unless you
 want original, I think this is the closest you'll get. >>


question......... you can only get the posi with a gear ratio of 4.10 and
up???

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible
http://members.aol.com/Cnvrt67/index.html

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:55:58 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 200R4 info

Wait a minute Joe,

The 1970 GTO was available with a 455 rated at the same 500 lbs...
...but nobody will build a 200-4R (or a 700-R4 for that matter) that
they will guarantee behind the torque....

Brent Pinkstaff
_______________

Brent,

You win the contest as the first to have his/her chain yanked.  No dissing
of Ponchos really intended (except for the one Andy Green owns), but as you
point out, the 200R4 won't live behind anything with that much torque.
Just a little tongue in cheek criticism...

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:04:04 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Choke on a performer intake

Just finishing up on the '69 350 rebuild. One small problem, the
original choke spring and housing doesn't fit in the hole in the new
performer intake manifold.  What is the best, easiest, cheapest (any
option of the three is OK) way to replace the original choke?  I
really don't much care for manual chokes and don't have the cash for a
new carb.  Any suggestions?

==
Dave Welsh
___________________

Dave,

Not being familiar with the Performer, does it have the long, skinny
opening with a bolt hole at either end for use with the 70-up style choke
tube?  If so, and I assume you're using your original divorced-choke style
carb, you've got a problem.  Your options are:

1)  Manual choke
2)  New carb with integral (coil-type) choke
3)  Convert your existing carb to a later integral choke.

You've discounted the first two, and I'm not sure if your existing carb has
all the provisions for accepting the coil choke.  This obviously requires
some trial and error fitting and a rebuild of your carb.  You'll need to
find a junkyard carb with the correct choke provisions and try to swap it
to yours.  This is possible, but as I noted there are no guarantees.

Sorry.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:08:04 -0500
From: "Brett Wilson" <bwilson@dmotorworks.com>
Subject: Re: How fast?

I don't know of a link to a chart on the internet just yet but will search
for one.
It is related to metal wearing out at cold temperatures.  Simple but
important, running at 180° is optimal.  but in a colder state (North) a car
with a 160 thermo will run at 160°.  my car runs at 180-190°.  It used to
run at 160° then I talked with an expert machinist and he explained the
effects of lower or higher temperatures.  At higher Temperatures the engine
makes less power (above say 200°) at lower temperatures(like 180°) it tends
to make it's peak power, at 160° it makes a little less than at 180°.
At 160° cylinder wall wear is 25% greater than that of the 180° mark. at
200° it was 15% less than at 180°.  the line on the chart tapered flat at
about 230°.  If you have ever noticed more efficient newer cars run about
210°- 230°.  It is just harder to make the engine run better at these
temperatures (on older ones).  that is why most old cars stay in the
180°-190° range.
I hope this helps.
If I am misinformed or misunderstood, please tell me
>>>Brett Wilson.


>Why would the engine wear out with a 160degree thermostat? Why would the
>cylinder walls especially wear out? I'm just curious. I have a 160
>thermostat in my 455 and it runs at 180degrees. Stuck in traffic it may
>climb to 185.
>Pettrix@prodigy.net
>
>----------
>> From: Brett Wilson <bwilson@dmotorworks.com>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: How fast?
>> Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 2:17 PM
>>
>> I hope that thermostat is a 180 not a 160. at 160 your engine really
>wears
>> out (cylinder walls especially) also your efficiency is down quite a
>bit...
..

>> Not familiar with Robert shaw  330-160.   Probably a 330-180.

{{ guess not}}

>> >>>Brett
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: KWhite5590@aol.com <KWhite5590@aol.com>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 1:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: How fast?
>>
>>
>> >Mr. Martin I will have a comparison that you can use soon.
>> >I have an 83' Cutlass with a slightly modified 307.
>> >1. Accele Super Coil
>> >2. K+N Filter charger
>> >3. High flow PFP catalytic converter
>> >4. Maremont cat-back dual exhaust with Thrush Cal -Turbo mufflers
>> >5. Home built Ram Air induction
>> >6. Turbo 350c trans with B+M shift kit
>> >7. Robert Shaw  Hi-performance 160 thermostat
>> >8. Z-28 15x7 wheels with BFG 245-50-15 Euro Radial tires
>> >9. 16 degrees base timming
>> >10. and last but not least 2.14 rear gear ratio
>> >I have had the up to 130 mph, but not yet done any foot times.It seems
>as
>> that
>> >the power band on my engine is higher. After 35-40 the flat out flies.
>When
>> >doing 60 and I  open the throttle it gives my neck a nice snap back to
>the
>> >headrest of my Recaros'.The car grunts as good as my wifes' 85 305 TPI
>> Trans-
>> >am.I'll post the info in about one week.Hope it helps you out.

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:24:12 EDT
From: <KWhite5590@aol.com>
Subject: Re: How fast?

Its 160. I use the 180 during the winter months. As far as wear goes the
engine runs at 20 to 30 degrees above the opening temp on the thermostat.With
the mods that I have done the car runs better than most cutlass' with 250k
miles them.no major repairs than replacing the water pump. I still get 18
miles to gal. on the highway.

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:29:07 -0400
From: Mike.Blankenship@medaphis.com (Blankenship, Mike)
Subject: 65-67 400-425

Anyone ever build a high performance 65-67 400 or 425 for moderate drag
racing. If so any recommendations on cam, compression, intake ect. would   be
helpful.  Do the cranks have to be drilled for 4 speed on these   motors?

Thanks

Mike
66 442
70 442 W30
70 GTO Judge RAIV
71 Cutlass S
71 442 Convt

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 13:35:26 PDT
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 200R4 info

Joe,

>You win the contest as the first to have his/her chain yanked.

Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do I get!?  What do I get!?

>No dissing
>of Ponchos really intended (except for the one Andy Green owns)

Now let's be fair here. You definitely SHOULD be dissing the Pontiac
I've got sitting on the side of my house. I'm going to have to send you
pictures so that we can stop this uncalled for discrimination against my
car!

>but as you
>point out, the 200R4 won't live behind anything with that much torque.

That's what I love about both of my favorite makes! Gobs and gobs of
transmission snapping torque (snapped a TH-350 in two, literally, with
my 1st LeMans)!!!

And wait a minute...come to think of it both Pontiac and Olds were able
to pull ALMOST as much flow out of the exhaust side as most Briggs and
Straton engines!!!!

Talk about similarities!

Brent Pinkstaff
'70 Cutlass S (Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass poo)


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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:45:18 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: More Stuff

Hi awl.

First I like to quickly say thanks to all that responded to my last posting
of garage stuff forsale.  I must say I was a little overwhelmed by the huge
reponse.  I have replied to most of you with what I  have.  If for any
reason you don't hear from me very soon, please send me a reminder letter.
I had over 60 reponses in 2 days.  It has taken a bit to straighten things
out.

Anyway I have some more stuff

73-76 Rear sway bar  $25
68-72 rear Sway bar  $50
71 - 72 white interior rear panels for a supreme. In very good condition,
both sides, upper and lowers
Full set of 72 tailights in the housings still $50
A blue convertible back seat $40
An Olds 4 speed Bellhousing  $50
A heater blower box with blower motor (rust free metal)  $20

Also I have a lot of heater controls if anyone looking for them.

More oddball stuff to come, as I clean out things more

Later All

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:55:21 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 200R4 info

>You win the contest as the first to have his/her chain yanked.

Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do I get!?  What do I get!?
_______________

How about shreds of a grenaded 200R4?

===============

>No dissing
>of Ponchos really intended (except for the one Andy Green owns)

Now let's be fair here. You definitely SHOULD be dissing the Pontiac
I've got sitting on the side of my house.
________________

Not to start a my-car's-uglier-than-your-car thread, but...

================

And wait a minute...come to think of it both Pontiac and Olds were able
to pull ALMOST as much flow out of the exhaust side as most Briggs and
Straton engines!!!!
________________

LOL!

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 14:18:56 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: aftermarket shifter and bench seat

Has anyone put a aftermarket floor shifter in a car with a bench seat?
I seem to have enough room and even a B&M cable unit would seem to be easier
and cheaper than finding replacment '66 colum linkage and safty switches.

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 15:33:22 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}

My friend is looking at a windshield for a 1971 Cutlass S 2-door.  He
bought a 1971 Buik Skylark (or maybe Skyhawk?) 4-door.  Does anyone know
if this is a possible wind-shield doner??

Also, the car has front-discs that I can get for cheap/free, will these
fit my 1971 Cutlass S 2-door??

Thanx

Eric
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/gobstop.shtml
mailto:big_olds@hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 17:40:35 EDT
From: <DEOVIVERE@aol.com>
Subject: Re: News Item

In a message dated 98-08-05 11:19:00 EDT, you write:

<< Apparently this is the bi-annual GM reorg. >>


I wonder how the recent strike impacted the decision.  Economists are
attributing a significant part of the recent downturn in economic growth to
that strike.  Major impact!

Tom

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 14:44:42 PDT
From: "Keith Reese" <supakeef@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: engine swapping

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>I am swaping a 455 instead of a 307 in my '81 Delta 88.  The 307 and
350
>are same external size so all should be same.  If you have a 455
complete
>from a car, then you are okay, couse you will have all the big-block
>mounting brackets for accesories.  If you don't, then by just buying
the
>remanufactured motor, you will have to buy a few little things.
>
>Any 455 pan will fit, but make sure if the TORONADO pan will fit your
car.
>I am not sure, but I think your 350 pan may fit as well.  Check.
>
>The waterpump should be a direct swap over to a 455 from 350, but by a
new
>one.  Same for the fuel pump.  They are cheap and a worth the money.
>
>The alternator and power-steering and AC will swap from the 350, but
you
>need those big-block mounting brackets (cheap at scrap yards).
>
>Your cab will swap no porblem, you may have to rejet it though for more
>CIDs ($5 or so for jets) and retune it.  This is simple
>
>The distributor is identical from the 455 and 350 so no problems there.
>
>You will need, however, a Intake manifold.  The 350 one would NOT fit.
>Your options here are to get a '72-'76 EGR manifold (don't unless you
need
>emissions or can't find any other), pre '72 with no EGR.  These two can
be
>found on the scrap yards and are dirt cheap.  The other option is
Edelbrock
>Performer 455 aluminum intake.  A good intake (a whole lot lighter then
>stock, some 30LBS or so) but you wallet would have to be heavy couse
they
>are about twice the price of those SB Chevy ones.  Unless you have
money or
>want a top notch motor, don't bother.  You can always change it later.
>Vary easy on OLDS.  And the stock one would set you back $10 bucks
instad
>of $400 Can.
>
>Fan clutch and assebly should be fine from the 350.  But since the 455
is
>taller, you may have to shim your fan shroud for clearance.  No
problem.
>
>You need to get frame mounts for a 455 so that your engine sits
properly.
>Then you may not need to modify the fan shroud, should be fine.  Again,
>simple and cheap.
>
>You COULD use your stock exaust manifolds but I would not.  At least
get
>some BB exaust manifolds (can do this when you look for a intake
manifold
>at scrap yard).  But if you can afford, RUN headers.  Sounds lots
better,
>free HPs as well.  Here you can pick up a whole lots of HPs from a big
>block AND fuel economy as well.  From a scrap yard, BB exaust manifolds
are
>cheap, like $5 each.
>
>Just by the new belts.  They are not worth the headake, and since you
will
>be droping a fresh nice 455, how would it look to put used belts in.
>
>This is all I can think of now.  Sounds like lots of work but DON'T get
>discouraged.  It now big deal and is all cheap.  You would like the new
>motor lots.  Other then what I listed (or missed) everything should be
a
>easy no problem bolt on.  Cruise, trans lines, etc.  If you have any
>questions let me know.  Good luck.
>
>Igor Todorovic, UofC
>1981 Delta 88 (455/TH400, 255/60/15 BFG, 2.41limited slip(soon change))
>1981 98 Regency (every option, 307/200r4/propane)
>1976 Delta 88 (now parts car, was 455)
>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360, RVcam, 4:10 gears, tire smoker, king off the
line)
>1995 Intrepid (3.3L, dads car, okay, but no Delta)
>
>----------
>> From: Chris Kugler <talcarol@erie.net>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: engine swapping
>> Date: Monday, June 08, 1998 2:05 PM
>>
>> I have some more questions about what I can swap from my 1977 350 to
a
>455.
>> I've been thinking about getting a remanufatured 1972 Olds engine
from
>> Marshal.
>> Could I swap the alternator?  What about the power steering stuff?
What
>> about the fan and the fan clutch?  Could I use some of the same
belts?
>If
>> I were to get this engine all I would get is the block, heads, oil
pump,
>> and internal workings.  Would any 455 oil pan fit? I'd get a new
water
>> pump. If you think of anything else let me know.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris Kugler
>> 1977 442
>
>Dear Chris,
             i now own a '72 cutlass and just feel in love wit' the
whole restoration idea...but i need to know if a '70 engine will fit in
a '72 body....i looked for the knowledge everywhere but to no
evail....please e-mail me wit a answer...
                                          Thankx a heap,
                                                         Keef


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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 14:51:50 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 200R4 info

> No dissing of Ponchos really intended (except for the one
> Andy Green owns), but as you point out, the 200R4 won't
> live behind anything with that much torque.

*harrumph*  I missed this at first, but let me say that a
couple of times when I've really tromped on it and that
supercharger kicked in, I've scared the bejeezus out of
myself. I expect the car to be a nice little collectible
in the near future when most of the others have been wrapped
around trees by their lead-footed owners. This, after all,
is one reason the 442s are so sought after, n'est-ce pas?  :-)

- -- Andy

P.S. When I bought it at 59K miles, it already had its second
transmission installed... don't think it's a 200R4, though...

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 14:57:19 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}

> My friend is looking at a windshield for a 1971 Cutlass S 2-door.
> He bought a 1971 Buik Skylark (or maybe Skyhawk?) 4-door.  Does
> anyone know if this is a possible wind-shield doner??

I believe he'll find that they're different rake angles. The
2-doors tend to be swoopier than the 4-doors and wagons. Tell
him to measure the height of the windshield (not vertical height,
but the distance from top edge to bottom edge). I think he may
find that the 4-door glass is a couple inches shorter than the
2-door glass.

> Also, the car has front-discs that I can get for cheap/free,
> will these fit my 1971 Cutlass S 2-door??

That might be a possibility...?

- -- Andy

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:01:15 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}

Wow, talk about response time!!

What exactly would you recomend measuring (Distance between top and
bottom or length of galss, taking into acount curves..)

Andrew C. Green wrote:
>
> > My friend is looking at a windshield for a 1971 Cutlass S 2-door.
> > He bought a 1971 Buik Skylark (or maybe Skyhawk?) 4-door.  Does
> > anyone know if this is a possible wind-shield doner??
>
> I believe he'll find that they're different rake angles. The
> 2-doors tend to be swoopier than the 4-doors and wagons. Tell
> him to measure the height of the windshield (not vertical height,
> but the distance from top edge to bottom edge). I think he may
> find that the 4-door glass is a couple inches shorter than the
> 2-door glass.

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 15:11:35 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}

> What exactly would you recomend measuring (Distance between top and
> bottom or length of glass, taking into acount curves..)

Not the length (width), but the distance from the top molding to
the bottom molding. Just pick the middle of the windshield and
measure from its top edge down to its bottom edge. I don't think
you need to be all that precise; I think you'll find the 2-door
is significantly different from the 4-door in that measurement.
If it isn't exactly the same, you can't exactly stretch it to
fit, right?  :-)

- -- Andy

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:24:27 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Smokey

  We need more info.  Like, what kind of car is the 455 in?  What kind of
455 is it?  In what conditions does it/does it not smoke.  Peter

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:28:12 EDT
From: <RU2L8@aol.com>
Subject: diesel swap

I have seen on the site that others have performed a swap. I love my 1982 Olds
98 to death but it seems to just have one problem after another with the
diesel. Please give me as much info as possible on the needed parts and tips
as you can so I can pull her in the garage and ride in comfort again.
By the way to answers replied, do you know how hard this defined subject
matter is to find? It took me 1 hour on the searcher dogpile!

	THANX!

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:39:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: John <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: aftermarket shifter and bench seat

- ---Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone put a aftermarket floor shifter in a car with a bench seat?
> I seem to have enough room and even a B&M cable unit would seem to
be easier
> and cheaper than finding replacment '66 colum linkage and safty
switches.
>


- --Bob,
    Shouldn't be too much trouble,just be sure NOT  to bind  the
cable.Most B&M's come with a cable long enough to give you some slack,
so as long as you don't interfere with dash or seat , you'll be
ok.BTW, can recommend the Z-Gate.

               Later,John
==
mailto:super442@yahoo.com           ICQ # 15391466
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73--http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
1984 Cutlass-Moonroof--307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/PatsCar.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!



_________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:37:05 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}

Andrew C. Green wrote:
> If it isn't exactly the same, you can't exactly stretch it to
> fit, right?  :-)

Two words, Duct Tape

Just Jokes

Eric
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:02:16 -0400
From: Toby Blom <floridarealtor@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: SPRINGS 67 f85 425bb

Bob Blanchard wrote:
>
> At 10:59 AM 8/4/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >I got $100 for a set (4) of stiff springs for my 67 f85 w/a 425bb. I need
> >front and rear and will wire the money but the springs must be GOOD!
> >Please help!
> >
> Not to rain on your parade, but $100 probably isn't going to do it .
> After alot of searching I found a pair of front springs for a small block for
> $120, and that was a good price.

Contact Springs & Things, 717-672-9413, I received a complete set for my
66 yesterday, cost me $144.00 for all 4, including shipping!
Toby

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 19:08:23 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: POSI NEEDED

Cnvrt67@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-08-05 15:51:58 EDT, you write:
>
> << Guys! Guys! Guys! Take it easy.... I'm looking in Jeg's right now, and i
>  see a 12-bolt posi by AuburnGear for 65-72 4.10-up for $380. Unless you
>  want original, I think this is the closest you'll get. >>
>
> question......... you can only get the posi with a gear ratio of 4.10 and
> up???

No, they also list one for 3.07 and up.

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
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         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
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http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:09:37 -0300
From: Raul Martinez <rmart@satlink.com>
Subject: RE: Fuel Lines for a 425 1966

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Thanks Karl

- -----Mensaje original-----
De:	KarlAune@aol.com [SMTP:KarlAune@aol.com]
Enviado el:	Jueves 23 de Julio de 1998 20:12
Para:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Asunto:	Re: Fuel Lines for a 425 1966

Hi Rual!

Sorry this took so long.

<< Subj:	 Fuel Lines for a 425 1966
 Date:	98-07-02 18:22:24 EDT
 From:	rmart@satlink.com (Raul Martinez)>>>

<we know the next part>

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<Rmmmmmm.  I'm gonna let that one slide!>

<<< 	As an owner of a Delta 88 1966 I get .... fuel pump and carburator 
form
USA parts supply but I want to restore also the original fuel line from pump
to carb. USA hasn't and told me to build one. Seems to be 3/8"metal fuel line,
but don't know original  size or form as well as terminations for fitting on
both sides. Any help please?
 Raul
 Delat 88 1966 >>

The fuel line in my 1965 Dynamic 88 Used to be 3/8" OD (outer diameter) steel
tubing. The fittings are also standard. Anyone whom can supply you with the
tubing should also have the fittings on hand. You will require 18-30" of
tubing depending on how you route it. My fuel line (if I recall) ran up
between water pump and alternator, and to passenger's side of thermostat
housing, and frm there directly to the carb.

Due to carburetor probs, I replaced my steel tubing with 3/8 ID (??) rubber
tubing with the steel braid on the outside, and an inline see-thru gas filter.
Less probs running in hot weather.

Good Luck!

KA
&SOM

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:31:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Attn: OCA Members! (Important) (fwd)

From Brad Nicholson...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: Attn: OCA Members! (Important)

Oldsmobile Club of America
P.O. Box 80318
Lansing, MI 48908

Phone: (517) 663-1811
Fax: (517) 663-1820

http://www.oldsclub.org
Send e-mail to OCA Starting 8/10/98!

Attn: OCA Members!
Due to the recent shakeup that occurred at the '98 Nationals, I'll fill you in
on what I know.
1. CEO & JWO Editor Penny Casteele abruptly resigned from all OCA duties.
2. The editor of the NAOC magazine has been recruited to be the new JWO editor.
3. The September JWO will most likely be late if not even exists at all (like
   the '82 Corvette) There should definitely be an Oct issue to my knowledge.
4. Please note the new phone numbers for OCA, the mailing address remains the
   same, by shear luck.
5. Anyone who joined/renewed since July 1, please be patient as the paperwork
   gets shuffled to the correct people.
6. Please be patient as things get sorted out at the executive & board level.
   The situation is similar but more complicated to when Penny's husband Dennis
   suddenly passed way in '95. This time though there isn't/wasn't someone to
   immediately pick up the ball and is is being picked up in pieces REAL quick.
7. 1999 Nationals are being held in Texas, 2000 in New Jersey and 2001 in
   Colorado. (I don't have ANY specifics on any of these 3 events)
8. ANY "FREE" ads you wish to place in the NEXT JWO, please e-mail them to me 
at
   brad442@erols.com in this format:
      a. Only 1 free ad per current OCA membership number
      b. Include your OCA number in you message
      c. 25 words or less, not including name, address, phone and/or e-mail
      d. Anything over 25 words WILL BE RETURNED! NO EXCEPTIONS!

      Example as to how to send your ad:
      ==================================
      Subject: Free OCA/JWO Oldsifieds ad
      Message:

      OCA# 00001
      Ransom Eli Olds

      1902 Curved Dash Olds 442, excellent condition, 4 wheels, 4 springs,
      2 valves for the 1 cylinder. New leather seat. Only one in existence
      $1,000,000 or B/O. Ransom Ph:(517) 555-6537, email: 
DocOlds@oldsmobile.com

      e. All ads received by 6pm 8/8/98 will be forwarded to the new JWO 
editor.
      f. NO PICTURES AT THIS TIME!!! PERIOD!

9. ALL OCA stuff that Penny had was shipped to new OCA President's Greg Childs
   house and he is going thru "55" boxes of stuff as we speak! Not to mention
   that she also sent the PC, monitor, keyboard and had the OCA mail & phone
   number forwarded there until it was recently straightened out.
10.Marsha Nicholas is the Communication Coordinator for OCA, kind of taking
   over a majority of the job Penny did.

Hope this helps out some of you current and potential OCA members as to what is
going on.  I'll have updates as I get them

Brad Nicholson (OCA's WebGuy)
OCA# 18984
1987 442
1994 Eighty Eight LSS
brad442@erols.com
brad.nicholson@ssa.gov

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:37:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: diesel swap

Not on the list, respond to RU2L8@aol.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	<RU2L8@aol.com>
Subject: diesel swap

I have seen on the site that others have performed a swap. I love my 1982 Olds
98 to death but it seems to just have one problem after another with the
diesel. Please give me as much info as possible on the needed parts and tips
as you can so I can pull her in the garage and ride in comfort again.
By the way to answers replied, do you know how hard this defined subject
matter is to find? It took me 1 hour on the searcher dogpile!

	THANX!

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 19:47:40 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Olds books.....

Just found this link, you might want to check it out....

http://www.tiac.net/users/ikrakow/olds.htm

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:36:04 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}

the 4 door A bodies have a taller glass than the 2 door the windshield wont
fit dont even bother to try get a 2 door windshield any A body 70-72 will
work these years have the antenna in glass if thats not a concern the 68-69
will fit too...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: 1971 Cutlass windshield {possible Bui*k doner}


>Andrew C. Green wrote:
>> If it isn't exactly the same, you can't exactly stretch it to
>> fit, right?  :-)
>
>Two words, Duct Tape
>
>Just Jokes
>
>Eric
>http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:58:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Package Tray Redux

A couple of years ago I replaced the package tray on the Cutlass. Not
realizing how big a job it was, I didn't do it very well and it eventually
warped. Last month I picked up a new one at Fusick's and today was the day
it got put in. Geez, what an awful job, took the better part of all day.
Needed to remove the entire rear seat assembly, the interior side panels,
the armrests and the rear speaker. The bottom seat cushion was a real pain
to remove, just didn't want to come out. No build sheets anywhere either,
but one interesting note: discovered that the seat was manufactured on
Nov. 6/67 and the car was delivered to the original owner on Nov. 27/67.

The new tray required a bit of fiddling to get it to sit properly as the
fit is very tight. And the spray adhesive really didn't want to hold the
lip very well. But it all eventualy went in, and the bonus is that since I
bought a mesh tray, the speaker grill is no longer needed.  Unfortunately
on the way home I discovered that the rear speaker doesn't work anymore,
hopefully a simple problem I'll tackle tomorrow. As a bonus, having all
that rear upholstery out gave me a chance to give it a total cleaning and
the seats and panels now look like new. Plus I discovered that 2 of the 3
tabs that are supposed to hold the door opening lace in place were
actually spot-welded closed during production and not doing their job, so
I was able to fix that.

In the never-fails dept.: this job was done at my pal Brian's place, and
it was a very hot day. Near the end, I'm covered in filth from the seat
underlayment, I'm sweating, bleeding, and laying on my back in the trunk
with my legs hanging out, trying to get the speaker hooked up while
cursing and fiddling with the T-nuts that hold it -- not a very nice
position. You wouldn't want anyone to see you when you're like that,
right? Suddenly I hear a female voice: "That doesn't look very secure.
(giggle giggle) If someone closed that trunk lid you'd be trapped in there
forever." I contort myself around to see this absolutely gorgeous young
lady who is a friend of theirs, who must have been quite taken aback by
the sight of all this. I'm afraid I must not have made a very good first
impression, as attempts at flirting thereafter went nowhere. :( The story
of my life. Ah well, at least I have a nice new package tray. And
hopefully, she'll be back some other time. :)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:47:51 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: POSI NEEDED

the pinion stem is .001 inch smaller and only has 27 splines I think
this would preclude the swap however I am going to try it anyway
could work...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Padavano.Joe@orbital.com <Padavano.Joe@orbital.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: POSI NEEDED


>Guys! Guys! Guys! Take it easy.... I'm looking in Jeg's right now, and i
>see a 12-bolt posi by AuburnGear for 65-72 4.10-up for $380. Unless you
>want original, I think this is the closest you'll get.
>
>--
>*************
>Matt Cremean
>_________________
>
>Sorry, Matt, but I'm sure that the 12 bolt setup in Jeg's is a Chevy (aka
>Type C).  It's not interchangeable with a Type O 12 bolt unless you swap
>out the entire axle housing.  As an example, the Chevy 12 bolt uses an
>8.875" ring gear, while the Olds uses an 8.5" ring gear.  More importantly,
>the Chevy actually uses 12 bolts to hold the ring gear to the carrier
>(coincidentally, there are also 12 bolts on the cover), while the Olds uses
>only 10 bolts on the ring gear (despite having 12 on the cover).
>
>As an aside, someone at Carlisle was selling a "12 bolt" and asking big
>dollars.  I pointed out that this was an _Olds_ 12 bolt, not a Chevy, with
>it's corresponding 10 bolt ring gear.  The seller was not amused.
>
>One other question.  Has anyone ever figured out how close the ring and
>pinion in the Type O 12 bolt is to the one in the 71-up corporate 10 bolt?
>Both have 8.5" ring gears held on with 10 bolts.  Is there some way to
>adapt the later gears to the earlier (67-70) Olds 12 bolt housing?
>
>Joe Padavano
>padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
>66 442
>68 W-30
>69 H/O
>70 W-30
>
>

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:06:57 -0000
From: "erik HILL" <ehill@gowebway.com>
Subject: who has the best "kung-fu" ?

who can decipher this vin code ?

2g3gm51a8h2338893


thanks

erik

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: John <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: need help

Hey gang,
Anyone have any suggestions where I might find the (I think) RPO
decal, the one under the trunk lid of most G-Bodies. Where would this
be located on my '82 G body wagon?
Thanks
John




==
mailto:super442@yahoo.com           ICQ # 15391466
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73--http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
1984 Cutlass-Moonroof--307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/PatsCar.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!



_________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:58:31 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: EGR blockoff

the earlier post was mine this never made much sense to me the automakers
were supposed to reduce nox hc and co so they managed to create an
arrangment that only met with a happy medium and no real effect then they
bolted on a cat which restricted the exhaust and reduced efficiency even
more then the oil companies stepped in and charged more for unleaded
gasoline which never had lead until they put it there go figgur...kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM <Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: EGR blockoff


>EGR  Exhaust Gas Recirculator
>Helps Performance when tuned right, reduces pinging, lowers emissions.
>Tried it on my old 83 CS Brougham as well.
>my.02
>>>>Brett
>____________
>
>Sorry, Brett, but I must disagree.  The primary purpose of EGR (as was
>correctly pointed out in a prior post) is to dillute the incoming air/fuel
>mixture with exhaust gas to make combustion less efficient (and cooler) and
>thus lower emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOX).  A reduction in pinging
>is a coincidence, but by no means does EGR improve performance.  Making
>combustion less efficient never helps.  Unfortunately, reducing NOX
>requires methods which are exactly the opposite of those required to reduce
>CO and HC (both of which are reduced by making combustion _more_
>efficient), resulting in a delicate balancing act on the part of
>automakers.
>
>Joe Padavano
>padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
>66 442
>68 W-30
>69 H/O
>70 W-30
>
>

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 17:18:52 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: need help

i think it would be under the carpat by the spare tire.




>Hey gang,
>Anyone have any suggestions where I might find the (I think) RPO
>decal, the one under the trunk lid of most G-Bodies. Where would this
>be located on my '82 G body wagon?
>Thanks
>John
>
>>



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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:31:38 EDT
From: <RPTW32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Things to do!

If your lucky enough to be in Detroit on Sat. 8/15 the Woodward Dream Cruise
is that
day. This is the mega cruise of the country. Last year estimated over 500,000
people
attended. Woodward is a main North/South road that was famous for the street
racing and cruising of late 50's thru early 70's.  Then head down to Norwalk
raceway
in Ohio (about 1.5 hrs. S.E. of Detroit) for the Dick Miller Olds Natl's.

This will be a weekend to remember.

Rgds,
Rob Thomas
69 442

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:55:23 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@ee.net>
Subject: Re: How fast?

I only have ran 1/4 mile times with my stock 80 442. With 94,000 miles 
currently
its best is 15.73 @ 86 with a 2.119 60ft.  It has a TH-350 with a 2.73 open
rear.

Jason Labay (jlabay@ee.net)   Akron, OH
98 Silverado C2500     88 Trans Am GTA
75 Hurst/Olds W-25    80 Olds 442 W-30
72 Cutlass Supreme Drag Car

>
>Anyone have any numbers to compare to?  I would like to see how it
>compares to a 80's 442/HO and other 307/350/403/425/455 G-Bodies.
>Anyone run 2.14's?
>
>Thomas Martin
>85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
>91 Bonneville LE 3800
>80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac
>

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:55:55 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: 68-69 Rallye Pack

Hi Awl

I just got  68 - 69 Rallye pack.   I like to pass it on to someone who
might be looking for it.
They Tach and Guages are in good condition
$275 plus a bit for shipping

Later

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:57:56 EDT
From: <Bkornell@aol.com>
Subject: Cutlass Sierra '86

Dear olds-Experts etc.
I have an Oldsmobile Cutlass Sierra '86 that is in less than mint condition.
It has a little rust on edges, the starter doesn't work very well, although
the car still starts after a couple tries. The engine smokes a bit sometimes &
the oil has to be checked bi-weekly.
I have to sell it before I go to college.  I live in Toledo, OH, a haven for
cheap automobiles...etc.
How much should I ask? Any guess..
E-mail me @ bkornell@aol.com
Please!!!!,
An ignorant oldsmobilian

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:05:55 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@ee.net>
Subject: Re: EGR blockoff

- -
>Tough to say; I'd bet you'd get more pinging under certain conditions, and
>unless you rejet your carb, you won't experience any performance increase
>(improvement in driveability, perhaps).

I get pinging now, but only when I run the engine hard down the track a couple
of times. I notice the slight ping on the return road.  Every other time it
never pings..this is on gas as low as 86 octane sometimes.  Currently my EGR is
there, but no vacuum like is hooked to it where it is supposed to be, I got the
car that way.  I checked the inner valve and it is not frozen up. > >JFTR, the
EGR doesn't get in the way of the valvecovers, and when painted >satin black it
blends in nicely with all the other things on the engine.

Oh it gave me fits putting the Edelbrock valve covers on my 350.  Had to move a
few brackets to get the valve cover in under it.  To me it is an eye sore in a
nice engine compartment.  I blocked off the EGR valves on my 93 Z28 and 95
Impala SS with no troubles...but those were Chevy motors, wasn't sure if the 
EGR
played a bigger/lesser function on the Olds motor.  Thanks!

Jason Labay (jlabay@ee.net)   Akron, OH
98 Silverado C2500     88 Trans Am GTA
75 Hurst/Olds W-25    80 Olds 442 W-30
72 Cutlass Supreme Drag Car
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/7565

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:08:43 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: How much $$$ 4 Ram-Air Setup

Peter Landowski wrote:
>
> How much is a Ram-Air setup from a 72 Olds worth? It includes the base and
> the plastic flapper door assembly also. All is in great condition and
> original.
> Pettrix@prodigy.net

Only about $5, but since I'm such a nice guy, I'll give you $10 and pay
the shipping.
- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
OCA# 30442

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:14:05 EDT
From: <BStaley442@aol.com>
Subject: F28

Hope i am sending this message to the right person, it looks like your message
went to a few people before it got to us.

Your F28 Tourer is a 1928 Oldsmobile, and the Touring is pretty rare, but
there is an Oldsmobile club in Australia and a gentleman named david margetts
has oldsmobiles of this era.  We used to run a club called the Registry, it
was only for 28,29, and 30 Oldsmobiles and Vikings.

The correct carburetor should be and U1 Schebler, the tllotson may work.  What
kind of shape is the car in?  We have a freind in OHIO, USA that has a 29
Touring that is completely restored.  We have a 28 sedan, 29 sedan, 30 sedan,
a 28 deluxe roadster, a 28 sport roadster,  54 olds, 55 olds, 66 toronado, 69
cutlass 442 convertible, 71 cutlass convertible.  (nuts right?)

we have several items that may help you, we sell copies of the service and
repair book, and parts book, and 28 and 30 service bulletins.  We'll try to
help with any quesitons you have too.

Friends with Oldsmobiles

Brenda and Butch
in
Indiana, USA

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:17:23 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Things to do!

David Popadic wrote:
>
> My work is sending me to Detroit for a week and was wondering what's
> there to do.  I will, naturally, be going to Lansing and stopping at
> the Musuem.  How good is the Musuem?  Is there anything else I should
> be looking to do in either Detroit or Lansing (Car related, of
> course!, ok. not necessarily car related since I'll be taking the
> wife).  I'm coming from Southeast Wisconsin (and am driving) in case
> there is anything else on the way that somebody can tell me to stop
> and check out!
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dave
> 1967 Cutlass Convertible

While in Dearborn, don't forget the Henry Ford Museum.  Even the wife
should like that, not all car stuff there).  Also, the Lionel Visitors
Center is in nearby Mt. Clemons.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:35:05 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: need help

John wrote:
>
> Hey gang,
> Anyone have any suggestions where I might find the (I think) RPO
> decal, the one under the trunk lid of most G-Bodies. Where would this
> be located on my '82 G body wagon?
> Thanks
> John

I'm thinking this would either be in the spare tire well/lid area
somewhere, or in the 3rd seat/storage compartment area somewhere.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:31:41 -0400
From: mark potwora <mepot@iinc.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION LIST MEMBERS!!!

Gib Loudon wrote:

> HEY GUYS AND GALS,
>
> CUTLASS NET HAS FOUND A NEW HOME!!!!!
>
> As of today, my homepage has a new home!  I recently signed up for a hosting
> service and got my own domain name.  Now, instead of typing all the crap and
> waiting for the my university's server to take you there, you can just type
> the following....
>
> http://www.cutlass.net
>
> Now is that easy or what????   I want to add pages for all of you fellow
> list members to have pictures of your cars and info obout them.  If you are
> interested, send me a private email and I will hook you up.  Don't worry....
> I'm not charging any money, I'm just trying to have a place on the web where
> all of us OLDSMOBILE fans can show off their stuff.  Also, If you want to
> have a homepage or website, feel free to contact me and we can work
> something out.  Please check out the site and make sure everything is
> working fine.  Thank you.
>
> Gib Loudon (a.k.a. "The Rocketman")
> 1969 Cutlass "S" Holiday Coupe
> ("Reb Thunder")
> Check out Cutlass Net at:
> http://www.cutlass.net
> cutlass@mill.tds.net

  Could you please take me off the list.....I cant take these long email
downloads
thank you,
mepot@iinc.com

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:40:36 -0700
From: Rick <truric@imag.net>
Subject: Re: How much $$$ 4 Ram-Air Setup

At 09:08 PM 8/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Peter Landowski wrote:
>>
>> How much is a Ram-Air setup from a 72 Olds worth? It includes the base and
>> the plastic flapper door assembly also. All is in great condition and
>> original.
>> Pettrix@prodigy.net
>
>Only about $5, but since I'm such a nice guy, I'll give you $10 and pay
>the shipping.
>--
>Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
>71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
>OCA# 30442
>
>*****************************************************
>* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
>*****************************************************
> hey im a nicer guy i'll give you $10
and pay the shipping

rick
1972 442

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:49:13 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Leaky Windshield (was: How do I remove windshield from 74 98)

<snip>  It now has rust on the inside roof frame, and every time I
>hit a bump
>rust rains down on me! Not good when you are trying to impress the
>girlfriend.
>Thanks
>
>James Aiello
>____________
>
>Bad news, James.  It sounds like you may have the dreaded pinchweld rust
>problem.  On this vintage car, GM used spring clips to retain the chrome
>trim around the windshield.  These clips are retained by snapping over
>welded studs projecting from the edge of the metal around the windshield
>opening.  Unfortunately, installation of the clips can scratch the paint,
>resulting in rust. <more snip>

Ummm....my 85 Delta leaks too. Had a windshield guy re-do the sealant goop
but it still leaks. If the problem is the clip pins, I had a thought.....can
they be repaired from ~inside~ the car? I'm gonna do the headliner soon,
maybe I can seal the rust holes from inside? Hmm?

drc

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 22:56:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: F28 Touring

Appears not to be on the list, respond to BStaley442@aol.com

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	<BStaley442@aol.com>
Subject: F28

Hope i am sending this message to the right person, it looks like your message
went to a few people before it got to us.

Your F28 Tourer is a 1928 Oldsmobile, and the Touring is pretty rare, but
there is an Oldsmobile club in Australia and a gentleman named david margetts
has oldsmobiles of this era.  We used to run a club called the Registry, it
was only for 28,29, and 30 Oldsmobiles and Vikings.

The correct carburetor should be and U1 Schebler, the tllotson may work.  What
kind of shape is the car in?  We have a freind in OHIO, USA that has a 29
Touring that is completely restored.  We have a 28 sedan, 29 sedan, 30 sedan,
a 28 deluxe roadster, a 28 sport roadster,  54 olds, 55 olds, 66 toronado, 69
cutlass 442 convertible, 71 cutlass convertible.  (nuts right?)

we have several items that may help you, we sell copies of the service and
repair book, and parts book, and 28 and 30 service bulletins.  We'll try to
help with any quesitons you have too.

Friends with Oldsmobiles

Brenda and Butch
in
Indiana, USA

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