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oldsmobile-digest       Monday, August 3 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1402



Olds shadow box transparency on Ebay
tranny slip/car show
Need Left Rear Axle Shaft
Garage Stuffdave
Re: UNBOUNCE: F28 Oldsmobile 6 Queries
UNBOUNCE: ISO '67 Left Rear Axle Shaft
403 olds questions
Re: Car Shows and Trophy Talk
403 crank and rods
Roller Lifters????
Re: OPC Racing This Weekend
Re: Pontiac for sale.............. here??? and 4 whl discs
Pontiac Talk
Re: Pontiac Talk
JWO
Re: Garage Stuff
Re: 75 Omega re: Paul's comment
Rear end question
rear disk brakes
wanted 1964 cutlass console,beige,withshifter and linkage(2 Sp Auto)
Dbl humped-trans. crossmember
Re: Rear end question
Re: Pontiac for sale.............. here??? and 4 whl discs
Painting front grill
A good day
Re: 403 crank and rods
PAGING MR>RANDY GIESEL
Re: 403 crank and rods
Re: Rear end question
Re: Roller Lifters????
Re: Pontiac Talk
Holley 3310 For Sale (NEW)
Re: CARB. VACUUM?
Re: Pontiac for sale.............. here??? and 4 whl discs
Re: Rear end question
Re: Pontiac Talk
[none]
Quadrajet Rebuild 84 H/O
Re: Garage Stuff
(no subject)
Re: Brakes really squishy (72 98)
Re: Bad luck
Re: MANUAL steering box
Re: Garage Stuffdave
Re: Garage Stuff
Re: Bad luck
Re: Bad luck
Date:	Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:51:10 -0400
RE: Bad luck - Good Rottwielers
Union, IL: Good Time Had by All
Re: A ? for the experts...!
Re: Bad luck
Re: A ? for the experts...!

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:49:51 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Olds shadow box transparency on Ebay

Folks,

Have just listed the following item for sale of Ebay.  Some of you may
be interested.  It has a Target Red '67 F-85 club coupe on it.  See it
at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=23901635

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:00:43 EDT
From: <KASOLDS@aol.com>
Subject: tranny slip/car show

I was at the Elkhorn WI. car show today about 75 miles from my home.  On the
way back my tranny (TH350) started sliping.  At first it was fine on the
highway and only sliped on accleration.  When I got into a town I stoped at
gas station and added some tranny fluid hoping to create more preasure.  It
didnt seem to help much, but I decided to get on the highway and try to make
it home.  It was fine for awhile on the highway, but then it started jerking a
little.  It seemed like it would slip then grab and slip and then grab again.
Finally I decided to stop and have it towed home.
     Do you think the clutch inside the tranny are slipping?  Or mabye a bad
torque converter?  Any ideas?
     It was a great car show though.  There were around 2000 cars.  The car
next to me was a awesome 68 H/O.  The guy with the Hurst/Olds said he got 1st
at nationals.  There were tons of great Oldsmobiles at the show.  Was anyone
on the list there?

Keith Schulz 70 442

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:04:42 -0700
From: "Chuck Cole" <coleboys@fbo.com>
Subject: Need Left Rear Axle Shaft

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I have a '67 Cutlass Supreme that spun the bearing on my rear axle and =
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:45:28 -0400
From: dave <dave70ss@ici.net>
Subject: Garage Stuffdave

Robert Schinkel wrote:
>
> Hi Yawl.
>
> I am in the process of clearing some space to make room for more Olds
> parts.  I have noticed that I have a overkill in some parts so I though I
> would offer some up cheap, well kinda cheap.  Anyways
>
> Windows  -  All kinds of side glass and some back glass,  there are some
> convertible 1/4 glass but its all clear.  I do have a few sets of tinted
> Hardtop glass.   If there is something special you want me to look for just
> ask.  All glass pieces are for 68 - 72 and are $10 ea.
> Seat belts  -  A whole big box full,  all kinda colors so just ask.  $3 ea.
> or ??
> Bumper Brackets  -  To many to describe all for 68-72 $15
> Seat Backs & Sides (Buckets)  Some gold , some black, some white $??
> Bucket seat Tracks -- The actual tracks the buckets attach to $??
> Convertible Rear Side panels  --  Black, blue , green, white, and I think
> brown
> Door Panels  --  A 3 foot pile I don't know what so just ask and I will dig
> Kick Panels  -- Some for AC some for not $40 for no air $75 with AC
> Upper Fan Support Brackets -- Lots, lots , lots.  But none for 4 core $5ea.
>
> All stuff plus shipping
>
> I also seem to have a large amount of engine brackets, including some AC
> stuff
>
> What I am trying to do is clear out the les important stuff so I can
> protect and store the harder to locate stuff.
>
> Let me know
>
> See ya later,I gotta go for my Sunday night drive in the Ragtop
> You know that cruise night thingy
>
> Robert Schinkel
> docbob@caninet.com
> Niagara Falls, Canada
> 905-357-4454
> 1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
do you have any taillight lenses for a 71
if so let me know

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:03:42 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: F28 Oldsmobile 6 Queries

>Can anyone help me with information about my F28 Oldsmobile 6 Tourer, which
is a vintage car probably of the 1920s era. it is supposedly the only one
registered in Australia.
>
>What year was my car made?
>
>Where can I get parts for the engine and information about restoration?
>
>It has a Tillison carburettor: is this original?
>
Rosalie,
Welcome to the list!!  Greg's right, according to the book "The Cars of
Oldsmobile" the F28 line was introduced on January 12, 1928.

Unfortunately, that's the only info I can help you with. The book gives
engine size and hp, wheelbase, brake specs and that sort of information. You
probably already know that, though. It says nothing about which carburetor
was used.

I'm sure one of the other knowledgeable folks here can answer your other
questions.

Hope I helped a little.

Take care,
Randy
72 Cutlass
72 Supreme
72 H/O (my new toy)

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:14:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: ISO '67 Left Rear Axle Shaft

Not on the list, respond to coleboys@fbo.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From:	"Chuck Cole" <coleboys@fbo.com>
Subject: Need Left Rear Axle Shaft

I have a '67 Cutlass Supreme that spun the bearing on my rear axle and =
ruined the axle.  This is the axle type that does not use C clips can be =
removed w/o opening the differential...If you have info or have a posi =
to fit my car please notify me at coleboys@fbo.com

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:13:09 -0700
From: "Tim" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: 403 olds questions

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that may contain buildup information. Need info on stock production =
buildup. This motor will be run in a race car, rules mandate the engine =
must contain factory stock parts. With the exception of the 500cfm =
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:20:48 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Car Shows and Trophy Talk

i also remeber seeing the jetstar station wagon. ill agree it was a cool
looking car and it was neat to see that the guy had added every jetstar option
to it....incliding a 4-speed. but i agree that it shouldnt have one best of
class in the particular class. it was a beautiful car but like you
said...........how can a car win best of class when it never exsisted in the
first place?? i dont know....just doesnt make sence to me.
My .02


Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible
http://members.aol.com/Cnvrt67/index.html

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:19:21 -0700
From: "Tim" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: 403 crank and rods

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was wondering if someone may know what years of the small block olds =
contained a steel crank? And were there any that had steel rods in them. =
Also which small block motor would have a reasonable stout cam.  Thanks =
Tim Wurtz

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:23:10 -0700
From: "Tim" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: Roller Lifters????

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are the roller lifters and cam out of a small block diesel motor a good =
candidate for stock racing applications. What about diesel heads any =
good? I have # 7 diesel head. Thanks Tim

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:37:36 EDT
From: <R4C442@aol.com>
Subject: Re: OPC Racing This Weekend

Hey Karl!
    Precisely! If the front U-joint breaks allowing the drive shaft to fall
freely......well
does the term "pole-vault " bring an image to mind?
                                                                         Ron
Forsee
                                                                         65
442-Meister

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 23:02:50 -0400
From: Peter Flinkfelt <pftno1klr@edgenet.net>
Subject: Re: Pontiac for sale.............. here??? and 4 whl discs

Maybe so, but I was talking of the 86-87 model years. I had an 86 T/A that was 
a
4.999 liter advertised as a 5.0 TPI. They are listed as a 305 block.



Brian Ammons wrote:

> Yes it was.  In 1980 & 81 you could order the 4.9 liter turbo in either the
> Trans Am or the Formula.
>
> At 12:10 AM 8/3/98 +0000, you wrote:
> >Is this the 301 I belive it was? I think it was also offered as a turbo
> motor.
> >At 07:45 PM 8/2/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >>A 4.9L V8?  From GM?  I thought only Ford would try to label a 4.9L as a
> >>5.0L (a la the often-used-in-the-past but great--IMHO--302 cui. V8)!
> >>
> >Clarence
> >86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
> >San Antonio
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 22:55:14 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Pontiac Talk

To All List Members,

        I have to have my peace and say this. ENOUGH of the PONTIAC stuff.
This is an Olds list. If you want to talk the "P" cars go to their list. I
don't mind the occasional 403 T/A questions but there has been way too much
of the BS Firebird crap on this list. I'm sorry if this offends anybody
taking part in the exchange, but there's a reason this is a Olds list. Now
that I'm off my soap box. Sorry to all others.

Jim Chermack

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:07:23 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Re: Pontiac Talk

I couldn't have said it better myself Jim..!!!!
_______________________________________________________


> To All List Members,
>
>         I have to have my peace and say this. ENOUGH of the PONTIAC stuff.
> This is an Olds list. If you want to talk the "P" cars go to their list. I
> don't mind the occasional 403 T/A questions but there has been way too much
> of the BS Firebird crap on this list. I'm sorry if this offends anybody
> taking part in the exchange, but there's a reason this is a Olds list. Now
> that I'm off my soap box. Sorry to all others.
>
> Jim Chermack
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:06:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Padavano <joe_padavano@rocketmail.com>
Subject: JWO

>  What is the status of Journey With Olds magazine....

I just got my August issue yesterday. Still lists Penny Casteele as
editor.

Greg Beaulieu
_________________

Given that the August 98 JWO contains the minutes from the _1997_ Directors
Meeting, I'm guessing that there's just a _wee_ bit of delay between the
writing date and the mailing date.  (Though admittedly some of the other
columns appear to have been written within about the last two or three months)

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30





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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:05:40 -0500
From: "craig g broussard" <ABROUSSARD@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Garage Stuff

Robert,
    I am looking for seat belts that are
black
red
or burgundy  it is for a 62 F-85 Cutlass Convertible
Please tell me if you can help
adam
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From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 5:29 PM
Subject: Garage Stuff


>Hi Yawl.
>
>I am in the process of clearing some space to make room for more Olds
>parts.  I have noticed that I have a overkill in some parts so I though I
>would offer some up cheap, well kinda cheap.  Anyways
>
>Windows  -  All kinds of side glass and some back glass,  there are some
>convertible 1/4 glass but its all clear.  I do have a few sets of tinted
>Hardtop glass.   If there is something special you want me to look for just
>ask.  All glass pieces are for 68 - 72 and are $10 ea.
>Seat belts  -  A whole big box full,  all kinda colors so just ask.  $3 ea.
>or ??
>Bumper Brackets  -  To many to describe all for 68-72 $15
>Seat Backs & Sides (Buckets)  Some gold , some black, some white $??
>Bucket seat Tracks -- The actual tracks the buckets attach to $??
>Convertible Rear Side panels  --  Black, blue , green, white, and I think
>brown
>Door Panels  --  A 3 foot pile I don't know what so just ask and I will dig
>Kick Panels  -- Some for AC some for not $40 for no air $75 with AC
>Upper Fan Support Brackets -- Lots, lots , lots.  But none for 4 core $5ea.
>
>All stuff plus shipping
>
>I also seem to have a large amount of engine brackets, including some AC
>stuff
>
>What I am trying to do is clear out the les important stuff so I can
>protect and store the harder to locate stuff.
>
>Let me know
>
>See ya later,I gotta go for my Sunday night drive in the Ragtop
>You know that cruise night thingy
>
>
>Robert Schinkel
>docbob@caninet.com
>Niagara Falls, Canada
>905-357-4454
>1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
>

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:28:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Padavano <joe_padavano@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: 75 Omega re: Paul's comment

First, babyboo@pacbell.net wrote:

>you say "skylark" which  is incorrect. It actually was called a "skyhawk". I
>know because this was my firt car. Just my 02 cents

Then, Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com> wrote:

>actually the buick version was the apollo the skylark was an a body
>and the skyhawk was an h body ...kk

To which I must respond:

The Skylark was the Buick A-body until 1973, at which point the name was
dropped in favor of Century.  The Buick X-body was originally called the
Apollo, however the Skylark name was resurrected on the X-body in the late 70s
as part of GM's concept of downsizing nameplates by using them on smaller
platforms.  As an example, Olds brought back the F-85 nameplate on the X-body
as well, as a down-scale Omega.  Pontiac did something similar when they
assigned the Bonneville nameplate to a four door G-body platform in the early
80s.  Kerry is correct that the Skyhawk was Buick's version of the H-07 body
(along with the Monza, Starfire, and Sunbird).

A little more X-body trivia:

The first letters of the original names for the four X-body cars (Nova, Omega,
Ventura, Apollo) of course spell out N-O-V-A.

When the first Caddy Seville was released in 1975 (or was that 76?) it was
also based on the X-body platform, making this the first time all five GM car
divisions had marketed cars based on the same platform.  This, of course, let
to that rousing success, the Cimarron (sounds like a flavored coffee).

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:31:35 -0500
From: senator@itis.com (Robert F. Newbegin Jr.)
Subject: Rear end question

My '78 CS has a 10-bolt limited slip rear end (See, I didn't say P*si :-)
).  I used a formula posted on the list a while ago, and discovered that it
is probably a 3.23 or 3.27? or somewhere in that neighborhood.  (My
aftermarket tach is only accurate to the nearest 200 rpms or so, that's
why).
I was looking for numbers stamped on the axle (for ID purposes) and found
none.  My Haynes book says that an ID tag was attached with one or two of
the bolts, but it seems that is long gone.
My question is: if I open up the case (I gotta change the fluid pretty
soon), will I find any identifying numbers?  If so, where are they?  If
not, how do I find out which axle I have for sure?

TIA,
Bob          '78 CS

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:31:40 EDT
From: <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: rear disk brakes

i was wondering how hard it would be to swap some rear disks off of a '79 or
so t/a onto my g-body rearend?  is it possible?
jeremy

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:36:38 EDT
From: <Bb79ta@aol.com>
Subject: wanted 1964 cutlass console,beige,withshifter and linkage(2 Sp Auto)

Im am looking for a console for a 64' holiday coupe. It has a 2.5 speed
automatic steering column shift. I would like to change it  The car is
completely original right down to the paint and has only 40000 original miles.
This console has to be clean and the correct color for me to even consider it.
Let me know the conditiona nt the price if one is out there.  I have found
several units inculing a tc, but they are always a different color. My last
resort will be to buy one and have it professionaly died.

THANKS,
Bill from Pa. N.J.

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:37:17 -0500
From: senator@itis.com (Robert F. Newbegin Jr.)
Subject: Dbl humped-trans. crossmember

I will be putting headers on my '78 CS soon, (350 cid, TH350) and I need to
find a dual-humped trans. crossmember.  Does anyone know of an aftermarket
source?
I'd modify an old one, but I don't know how to weld.
Is anyone parting put a car with a custom crossmember?

I know *someone* has done this, I'd really appreciate the help.

Bob         '78 CS

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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:31:00 -0600
From: Shang <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Re: Rear end question

Robert F. Newbegin Jr. wrote:
>
> My '78 CS has a 10-bolt limited slip rear end (See, I didn't say P*si :-)
> ).  I used a formula posted on the list a while ago, and discovered that it
> is probably a 3.23 or 3.27? or somewhere in that neighborhood.  (My
> aftermarket tach is only accurate to the nearest 200 rpms or so, that's
> why).
> I was looking for numbers stamped on the axle (for ID purposes) and found
> none.  My Haynes book says that an ID tag was attached with one or two of
> the bolts, but it seems that is long gone.
> My question is: if I open up the case (I gotta change the fluid pretty
> soon), will I find any identifying numbers?  If so, where are they?  If
> not, how do I find out which axle I have for sure?
>
> TIA,
> Bob          '78 CS


Piece of cake! When you open the diff, count the number of teeth on the
ring gear and divide it by the number of teeth on the pinion gear - give
you the exact ratio.

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:39:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Padavano <joe_padavano@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pontiac for sale.............. here??? and 4 whl discs

A 4.9L V8?  From GM?  I thought only Ford would try to label a 4.9L as a
5.0L (a la the often-used-in-the-past but great--IMHO--302 cui. V8)!

Jason Adcock
_______________

Actually, Jason, the 4.9L is the Pontiac 301, available in both naturally
aspirated and turbo formats.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30





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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:04:09 -0500
From: senator@itis.com (Robert F. Newbegin Jr.)
Subject: Painting front grill

The paint on the front grill of my '78 CS is chipping off.  If I was to
pull the grill and paint the entire thing (including the chrome), would
that look horrible?  Or should I mask off the chrome part.  I thought it
might look kind of cool with the gunmetal grey custom paint job.
Any input?

Oh, yeah, any suggestions for paint brands/primers/paint strippers?

Bob         '78 CS

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Padavano <joe_padavano@rocketmail.com>
Subject: A good day

I set out this morning on a drive to central PA to snag some parts advertised
on Bryceman's classified page.  In particular, I was interested in a pair of
repro quarter panels for my 70, the previously christened "Dirty W-30" at a
great price (even after considering the gas costs for my crewcab dually).  The
seller, who was parting a Rallye, had some other stuff I was interested in,
mainly interior parts.  I arrived at the seller's home after a longer than
anticipated drive, and while I was happy to get the quarters, the other items
didn't quite trip my price/condition threshold.  Then he opened the trunk to
reveal most of the engine, a/c parts, and the car's original O.A.I. air
cleaner base and top plate.  While the air cleaner had been sandblasted and
left bare (and thus had started to rust again), it was the correct, wide
snorkle base and small diameter top plate.  This wasn't even in the ad!

Needless to say, we reached an agreement on what I considered to be a very
fair price for the cleaner; the incorrect base I had been using on my W-30 was
starting to get to me, but I couldn't bring myself to pay the big bucks for a
correct one (especially since I have the plastic O.A.I. adapter and only
needed the base).  I must admit that all the way up I was having second
thoughts as to whether it was really worth killing a beautiful Sunday driving
almost 400 miles round trip, but on the way back, I knew it had been worth it.

I compared the O.A.I. base to the one currently on my car, and the O.A.I.
snorkle appears to be about 6" wide at the base, while the regular 4bbl air
cleaners use a snorkle about 5" wide at the base.  The O.A.I. unit also has
the five drain holes in the base outboard of the air filter and the 3/4" or so
diameter hole in the bottom of the small end of the snorkle for the
evaporative canister vent hose.

One question on this:  My long gone 70 Supreme (an original Calif car) also
had this evaporative system and the hole in the air cleaner snorkle.  I
unfortunately don't have the build date for that car.  My 70 W-30 (built, of
course, in Lansing, but bought in Calif) does not have the system - the
original air cleaner is long gone, but there was no evaporative canister in
the car.  The W-30 was built during the second week of Oct, 1969.  My
question, since the system was obviously on this 70 Rallye 350, is:  was the
evap system a requirement starting Jan 1, 1970?  This would obviously explain
why my W-30 doesn't have it.

Another question for O.A.I. experts:  What is the difference between the A212C
air filter used on the non-O.A.I. cars and the A336C filter used with O.A.I.?
Given my incorrect air cleaner base currently in use, I've been using the
A212C with an aftermarket small diameter lid, all of which appears to fit
perfectly well under the plastic O.A.I. adapter.  Are the diameters of the two
filters the same?  How about the height?

Thanks

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30



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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:30:25 EDT
From: <BIGJERMES@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 403 crank and rods

In a message dated 8/2/98 10:42:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tropical@micron.net writes:

<< was wondering if someone may know what years of the small block olds
contained a steel crank? And were there any that had steel rods in them. Also
which small block motor would have a reasonable stout cam.  Thanks Tim Wurtz
  >>
well, i know the 330 small blocks had forged cranks, and as for stout cams,
you wont get any stouter than the '68-'69 w-31 cams.

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:33:23 -0400
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: PAGING MR>RANDY GIESEL

i lost your email address...could you please resend it to me.....mine is
ainode@frontiernet.net
i have the delta for sale.
thanks!

Erik Gertsen

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:33:03 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: 403 crank and rods

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As far as I know all Olds small blocks had steel rods the 330 is the =
only one with a steel crank and it has to be used with the proper =
flywheel/flexplate and the W-31
is as good as it gets for cams the specs were very close to those of the =
68 hurst olds as I recall...kk
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    To: oldsmobile <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
    Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 7:25 PM
    Subject: 403 crank and rods
   =20
   =20
    was wondering if someone may know what years of the small block olds =
contained a steel crank? And were there any that had steel rods in them. =
Also which small block motor would have a reasonable stout cam.  Thanks =
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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:45:42 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Rear end question

easier just lok at the edge of the ring gear and read the two numbers
they will be in the format of XX-XX ring -pinion divide the big one by the
little one and voila.....kk
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From: Shang <shang@wans.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Rear end question


>Robert F. Newbegin Jr. wrote:
>>
>> My '78 CS has a 10-bolt limited slip rear end (See, I didn't say P*si :-)
>> ).  I used a formula posted on the list a while ago, and discovered that
it
>> is probably a 3.23 or 3.27? or somewhere in that neighborhood.  (My
>> aftermarket tach is only accurate to the nearest 200 rpms or so, that's
>> why).
>> I was looking for numbers stamped on the axle (for ID purposes) and found
>> none.  My Haynes book says that an ID tag was attached with one or two of
>> the bolts, but it seems that is long gone.
>> My question is: if I open up the case (I gotta change the fluid pretty
>> soon), will I find any identifying numbers?  If so, where are they?  If
>> not, how do I find out which axle I have for sure?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Bob          '78 CS
>
>
>Piece of cake! When you open the diff, count the number of teeth on the
>ring gear and divide it by the number of teeth on the pinion gear - give
>you the exact ratio.
>
>Stephen Hoover
>Dallas, Texas
>'70 Supreme

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:46:36 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Roller Lifters????

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no...kk
the heads are no good either...kk
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    Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 7:29 PM
    Subject: Roller Lifters????
   =20
   =20
    are the roller lifters and cam out of a small block diesel motor a =
good candidate for stock racing applications. What about diesel heads =
any good? I have # 7 diesel head. Thanks Tim

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 00:34:18 -0500
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Pontiac Talk

It was about to die anyway, Jim.

At 10:55 PM 8/2/98 -0400, you wrote:
>To All List Members,
>
>        I have to have my peace and say this. ENOUGH of the PONTIAC stuff.

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:47:41 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Holley 3310 For Sale (NEW)

Selling a Holley model#3310 that has been used for no more than 2 months...
Features:
750cfm
Vacuum Secondaries
Manual Choke
Power Valve Blow-Out Protection

Works perfectly..Was taken off of a 350 Rocket...Just like new...
$120.00
Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: CARB. VACUUM?

>I need help with the vaccuum lines. Can someone send me a diagram
>please? I have just installed a Q-jet on my 68 Toro 455. The Carb. is
>#17056240. I need to know where to hook-up the vaccuum lines to the
>carb. I know this has been covered, but now I need it. Please send me
>anything you have to my e-mail address. (tjacquillard@clds.net)
>thanx, T.J.

As you probably know by now, that's not the original carb for that car
(original would be a #7028252). The #17056240 is the carb used on the
full-size 49-state Buick 455 in 1976, and will have more hose connections
(specifically for the vapor canister) than the original carb. It will have a
ported vacuum port on the front, up and to the driver's side, which can be
run to the distributor advance. The large tube from the top casting is the
bowl vent line to the charcol canister, and should not be plugged up. You
can just cap whatever else you don't need.

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:02:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Pontiac for sale.............. here??? and 4 whl discs

>Nope, got it from the factory Pontiac Firebird/Trans Am manual.
>
>> Is this the 301 I belive it was? I think it was also offered as a turbo
motor.
>> At 07:45 PM 8/2/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> >A 4.9L V8?  From GM?  I thought only Ford would try to label a 4.9L as a
>> >5.0L (a la the often-used-in-the-past but great--IMHO--302 cui. V8)!

The Pontiac 301 (4.9L) actually the same bore and stroke dimensions as the
Ford 302 and Chevy Z-28 302 did: 4.00"x3.00". Some magazine (Car and
Driver?) was adamant about that Ford motor being a 4.9L in reality, and
listed it as such in its road tests. Oddly enough, that Chevy motor with
those same dimensions built as an overbored 283 was referred to as a "301".

Whatever the case, the Olds 307 does make the 5.0L cut, with room to
spare... (mandatory Olds content)

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:43:23 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Rear end question

In a message dated 98-08-02 23:46:31 EDT, you write:

<< Piece of cake! When you open the diff, count the number of teeth on the
 ring gear and divide it by the number of teeth on the pinion gear - give
 you the exact ratio.

 Stephen Hoover
 Dallas, Texas
 '70 Supreme
  >>

Even easier..look for the numbers stamped on the outside edge of the ring
gear..on all GM ring gears...two of them will be the ring and pinion tooth
counts. Divide big # by small  #.   Dorian

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 03:25:48 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Pontiac Talk

>         I have to have my peace and say this. ENOUGH of the PONTIAC stuff.
> This is an Olds list.

Well put...  With that in mind, let me just mention quickly that today while
yarding I found a really cool hood, that I'm suspecting belongs to a Firebird.
Just the hood, lying on the ground, two older W-30 style scoops sweeping
foreward leading to two ~large~ holes in the front, apparantly missing some
grillework parts...

OK now, Jim, before you  (or anyone else) gets too excited about my tongue in
cheek timing on this hood, let me just add one detail.  I set it over top of my
83's hood, and I have to say it looked really cool, with ~lots~ of potential.
The hood is about the same width as the Cutlass, but a little longer.  I can 
see
me going back there sometime and getting the hood, (for cheap) with cut-n-paste
intentions.  It looks like it would blend well with the Olds hood.  And for a
much better $$$ than the W-30 hood John has posted (which is ~really~ cool)  I
took a picture of the hood (after I took it off my car - wasn't thinking...) 
and
I'll post it when I get them developed, just in case anyone can identify it.  I
would need a positive ID of the hood before beginning, so I could know where to
look to find the grillework stuff that is missing from those two large holes.
The guys I was with suspected a mid/late 70's T/A, but the hood seemed to
~light~ to me, more consistant with the newer style body panels.  I just don't
know.

Anyway, enough Pontiac crap on this list.

Oh, yeah.  One more thing...  This roll of film has several shots of my buddy
doing a burnout (in his GTO) - I'll send ya scans, John ;)

OK, I think I got enough of the non-Olds stuff out of the way now...  Thank 
God,
since my Backspace key quit working right, and I'm having one hell of a time
typing this right now!!!

More weekend news tomorrow, when I wake up...

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 04:34:12 -0500
From: "M. Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 06:32:13 -0400
From: "Gilbert Russell" <russellg@ezol.com>
Subject: Quadrajet Rebuild 84 H/O

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Okay some help here.   I think my carb need to be replaced or at least
rebuilt judging from the fuel seeping out of the pump lever.  I went to the
local parts store and was informed that a rebuilt carb for my baby would
cost 500.00.  You got to be kidding! I can buy a whole car for that much.
I've never rebuilt a carb before how difficult is the job.  Does any one
else have any suggestions or have one they want to sell.  the carb number is
17084554.

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:06:51 EDT
From: <TomW30@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Garage Stuff

  Am interested in a set of those seat belts. Black for my '69 442. You can e-
mail me at my own address: Tomw30.

                            Thanks,
                                Tom Reardon

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 08:17:15 -0400
From: Ted Loranz <tloranz@acumeter.com>
Subject: (no subject)

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:56:36 EDT
From: <JonKrisInc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Brakes really squishy (72 98)

In a message dated 98-07-31 17:26:43 EDT, you write:

<< Would a 1974-1976 Full-sized Olds be the same as 1972, Because I have
 lots of those for free?? >>

Eric,
I have a 75 Delta 88 C0nv. Where are these cars? I am interested parts. Where
are you located?
Bruce
75 Delta 88 Conv.

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 03:57:49 -0700
From: Mr Ada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Bad luck

Hi all,

Well if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any.  This weekend a
neighbor, I am very sure
it was, vandalized my beloved Frosty.  On my passenger side rear quarter
panel I found a
very deep gash.  Enough to bend the metal in a little.  There are also
some other scratches which I think can be buffed out.  I've got the
police in on this and hopefully they can do
something about it.  They didn't believe me a week ago that this guy
threatened to do damage
to my personal property.

It sure bummed me since people just can't keep their hands off my car!
Does anyone know of any deterrent devices that will keep people away?
I am getting fed up with all this
repairing I keep doing.

Thanks,

Chris Sparks

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:18:22 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: MANUAL steering box

I might Bob, the 442 convertible I have started to part has one
But I will be unable to check for another 2 week, that is the next time i
am planning to go north for a bit

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)


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> From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: WTB: MANUAL steering box
> Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 12:29 PM
>
>
> Anyone have a 64-70 manual steering box in good shape?

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:25:13 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Garage Stuffdave

Yes lots of tailights too
E me private so we don't waste the others time

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)


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> From: dave <dave70ss@ici.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Garage Stuffdave
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 8:45 AM
>
> Robert Schinkel wrote:
> >
> > Hi Yawl.
> >
> > I am in the process of clearing some space to make room for more Olds
> > parts.  I have noticed that I have a overkill in some parts so I though
I
> > would offer some up cheap, well kinda cheap.  Anyways
> >
> > Windows  -  All kinds of side glass and some back glass,  there are
some
> > convertible 1/4 glass but its all clear.  I do have a few sets of
tinted
> > Hardtop glass.   If there is something special you want me to look for
just
> > ask.  All glass pieces are for 68 - 72 and are $10 ea.
> > Seat belts  -  A whole big box full,  all kinda colors so just ask.  $3
ea.
> > or ??
> > Bumper Brackets  -  To many to describe all for 68-72 $15
> > Seat Backs & Sides (Buckets)  Some gold , some black, some white $??
> > Bucket seat Tracks -- The actual tracks the buckets attach to $??
> > Convertible Rear Side panels  --  Black, blue , green, white, and I
think
> > brown
> > Door Panels  --  A 3 foot pile I don't know what so just ask and I will
dig
> > Kick Panels  -- Some for AC some for not $40 for no air $75 with AC
> > Upper Fan Support Brackets -- Lots, lots , lots.  But none for 4 core
$5ea.
> >
> > All stuff plus shipping
> >
> > I also seem to have a large amount of engine brackets, including some
AC
> > stuff
> >
> > What I am trying to do is clear out the les important stuff so I can
> > protect and store the harder to locate stuff.
> >
> > Let me know
> >
> > See ya later,I gotta go for my Sunday night drive in the Ragtop
> > You know that cruise night thingy
> >
> > Robert Schinkel
> > docbob@caninet.com
> > Niagara Falls, Canada
> > 905-357-4454
> > 1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
> do you have any taillight lenses for a 71
> if so let me know

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:27:51 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Garage Stuff

Craig,  I did mention the seatbelts were only for 68-72 cars
Do you care what year the belts come from
And do you want bucket seat sets or bench sets

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)


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> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Garage Stuff
> Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 11:05 PM
>
> Robert,
>     I am looking for seat belts that are
> black
> red
> or burgundy  it is for a 62 F-85 Cutlass Convertible
> Please tell me if you can help
> adam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 5:29 PM
> Subject: Garage Stuff
>
>
> >Hi Yawl.
> >
> >I am in the process of clearing some space to make room for more Olds
> >parts.  I have noticed that I have a overkill in some parts so I though
I
> >would offer some up cheap, well kinda cheap.  Anyways
> >
> >Windows  -  All kinds of side glass and some back glass,  there are some
> >convertible 1/4 glass but its all clear.  I do have a few sets of tinted
> >Hardtop glass.   If there is something special you want me to look for
just
> >ask.  All glass pieces are for 68 - 72 and are $10 ea.
> >Seat belts  -  A whole big box full,  all kinda colors so just ask.  $3
ea.
> >or ??
> >Bumper Brackets  -  To many to describe all for 68-72 $15
> >Seat Backs & Sides (Buckets)  Some gold , some black, some white $??
> >Bucket seat Tracks -- The actual tracks the buckets attach to $??
> >Convertible Rear Side panels  --  Black, blue , green, white, and I
think
> >brown
> >Door Panels  --  A 3 foot pile I don't know what so just ask and I will
dig
> >Kick Panels  -- Some for AC some for not $40 for no air $75 with AC
> >Upper Fan Support Brackets -- Lots, lots , lots.  But none for 4 core
$5ea.
> >
> >All stuff plus shipping
> >
> >I also seem to have a large amount of engine brackets, including some AC
> >stuff
> >
> >What I am trying to do is clear out the les important stuff so I can
> >protect and store the harder to locate stuff.
> >
> >Let me know
> >
> >See ya later,I gotta go for my Sunday night drive in the Ragtop
> >You know that cruise night thingy
> >
> >
> >Robert Schinkel
> >docbob@caninet.com
> >Niagara Falls, Canada
> >905-357-4454
> >1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
> >
>

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:38:20 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Bad luck

Geeese sorry to hear Chris
Ever think of getting a Rott Whieler, or a charming little Pit Bull

I know the feeling I too have a recent vandalism to my Convertible
I know it my nabour but haven't caught him yet.
But If I ever come home to find him in the yard, a song just popped to
mind.
A thumpen I will do, A thumpen I will Do, Hi ho then Brake his nose, A
thumpen I will do



Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)


- ----------
> From: Mr Ada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Bad luck
> Date: Monday, August 03, 1998 6:57 AM
>
> Hi all,
>
> Well if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any.  This weekend a
> neighbor, I am very sure
> it was, vandalized my beloved Frosty.  On my passenger side rear quarter
> panel I found a
> very deep gash.  Enough to bend the metal in a little.  There are also
> some other scratches which I think can be buffed out.  I've got the
> police in on this and hopefully they can do
> something about it.  They didn't believe me a week ago that this guy
> threatened to do damage
> to my personal property.
>
> It sure bummed me since people just can't keep their hands off my car!
> Does anyone know of any deterrent devices that will keep people away?
> I am getting fed up with all this
> repairing I keep doing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Sparks
>

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:36:38 EDT
From: <W30442CS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Bad luck

yes, A VERY BIG DOG! , let it take a bite outta crime!  just be sure to post
guard dog sign near it so your covered against law suits.    steven,
w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:51:10 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Date:	Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:51:10 -0400

Last night at my cruise night I gave a dodge boy the happiest night in a
long time
He had a 70 charger and I asked him if he wanted another dual snorkel
breather for the thing
There regular value is up and around $150 to $200 but I said come over this
week and you can have it for $25.
I feel that what comes around goes around, and I have had a gentleman do a
similar thing 2 years ago
He came up to me and said "I have an aluminum intake in the trunk of my
car, if you want it just give me $100".  And Yep it was a 70 W-30 intake,
latter he called me and said he had a new set of Exhaust manifold for the
car and some other small parts.
So he made my day and I help make someone else's.  Anyways The dodge stuff
was making the yard look like a scrap yard.
Oh and that W-30 intake was sold to a friend of mine on this list for a
mere $625
I got it at a deal, no need in gouging the heck out of his wallet
Oh that was $625 Canadian about $450 for you Yanks

Just thought I would share that
See ya awl

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 07:56:10 -0600
From: "Kevin Meredith" <bkmeredith@telusplanet.net>
Subject: RE: Bad luck - Good Rottwielers

We have three Rotti's: Frankie,Cedrick and Buford. No strangers come around
when me, the cars or my kids are out in the yard...and they are the Greatest
of companions!

Kevin Meredith
70 Vista Cruiser
82 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
mailto:bkmeredith@telusplanet.net
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mereditk/bkolds.htm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Robert Schinkel
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 1998 7:38 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Bad luck
>
>
>
> Geeese sorry to hear Chris
> Ever think of getting a Rott Whieler, or a charming little Pit Bull
>
> I know the feeling I too have a recent vandalism to my Convertible
> I know it my nabour but haven't caught him yet.
> But If I ever come home to find him in the yard, a song just popped to
> mind.
> A thumpen I will do, A thumpen I will Do, Hi ho then Brake his nose, A
> thumpen I will do
>
>
>
> Robert Schinkel
> docbob@caninet.com
> Niagara Falls, Canada
> 905-357-4454
> 1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)
>
>
> ----------
> > From: Mr Ada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: Bad luck
> > Date: Monday, August 03, 1998 6:57 AM
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Well if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any.  This weekend a
> > neighbor, I am very sure
> > it was, vandalized my beloved Frosty.  On my passenger side rear quarter
> > panel I found a
> > very deep gash.  Enough to bend the metal in a little.  There are also
> > some other scratches which I think can be buffed out.  I've got the
> > police in on this and hopefully they can do
> > something about it.  They didn't believe me a week ago that this guy
> > threatened to do damage
> > to my personal property.
> >
> > It sure bummed me since people just can't keep their hands off my car!
> > Does anyone know of any deterrent devices that will keep people away?
> > I am getting fed up with all this
> > repairing I keep doing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris Sparks
> >
>

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 07:17:09 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Union, IL: Good Time Had by All

Gorgeous weather yesterday for the 8th Annual Transport Extravaganza
at the Illinois Rail Museum in Union, IL. Am nursing some moderate
sunburn and tired legs from walking around viewing some 600 or so
cars of various vintage. Olds was somewhat underrepresented, at
least raw number-wise, but we had some nice cars out there.

I've seen more of Jeff Easton's 442 (three viewings) than I have
of Jeff Easton (once), and it was there again holding up the good
name of Olds and drawing a lot of attention, even when parked next
to an extremely red '67 (?) 442 convertible. Also in the vicinity
was a '73 W-30 and '74 H/O Pace Car, the latter sporting a 100th
Anniversary window flag, and a very nice '67 Toro in bright white.

Last year's '75 airbag-equipped Delta 88 didn't show this year,
nor did Soylent Ocean Mist, to our regret. Anyway, photos were
taken and I'll try to wangle some webpage space on our site when
the prints come back so we can all take a look...

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:21:49 EDT
From: <RICH6986@aol.com>
Subject: Re: A ? for the experts...!

the only problem i have had like that was with my 81 cutlass supreme when ever
i woould shut off the car all i would here is a loud noise coming from what i
thought was the a/c turns out it was the motor for the power antenna that went
up and down the belt broke so the motor just kept going try to raise it killed
2 batteries before i figured out what it was however is you dont have this
kind of anteenna then just ignore this message if you do have one that may be
it if it is just go to your fuse box and find the wire for the antenna and
pull it out that will stop it until you get a chance to fix it still havent
fixed mine yet
Rich
81,82,85 cutlass supreme

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 07:36:15 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Bad luck

Robert Schinkel wrote:

> Geeese sorry to hear Chris
> Ever think of getting a Rott Whieler, or a charming little Pit Bull

Thanks for the support.  I think it is time for me to build a 4 car garage.

> A thumpen I will do, A thumpen I will Do, Hi ho then Brake his nose, A
> thumpen I will do

I hear ya!

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 10:55:37 -0400
From: oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net
Subject: Re: A ? for the experts...!

Just a little more food for thought.....and info for everybody in the
future...on the "dead battery subject"...bout' 2 years ago my 84 Calais
kept killing the battery......I was unable to find the source for close
to a week....and it was an intermittent problem too....some days it kept
a charge...some days it did'nt....I can't even remember what led me to
the problem....but it turned out to be the trunk light.....it was'nt
shutting off.....it's my understanding that there's some sort of
mercury(no..not as in F*ord..L*ncoln..M*ercury...chuckle..) switch in
there....??????....Well....I took the bulb out and never really bothered
to actually find the switch and fix it right....probably should though.
These were'nt like the Oldses of the 60's and early 70's with the the
little "box type" light switch, that was usually located on the left
hand side and triggered by the up and down movement of the trunk hinge.
One of these days I'll page thru my shop manual and figure it out. Till
then......

- --
Thanks    And     Thanks     And     My        Take
      A      Or         To      Or     .02         Your
       Lot     ...        All     ...     Cents        Pick....
							       ....
                                                                   ..

         ....................... E.J. .......................
                                  				
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais 307 K+N T-Tops (soon to be 403)
1979 Pontiac Trans Am T-tops (403 organ donor for the 84 Olds)
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0 302 HO K+N
1992 Ford F-250 Reg. Cab 4WD 460 K+N (gee,could my gas
mileage be any worse !,gotta love that big block though) Auto.
1994 Toyota (Wow we could have had a V6!) Camry Sedan 4 Banger
K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!) Auto.
(my other halves ride, forgive me !)

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