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oldsmobile-digest    Saturday, September 12 1998    Volume 01 : Number 1478



re: car shows in Knoxville area...
ADMIN: Chebucto Down Tomorrow
ADMIN: Re: Mr President????????
UNBOUNCE: Re: oxidation and stains help???
Re: ADMIN: Re: Mr President????????
Re: Conv top cylinders
CCR/Templeton Show 9/13-Everyone Welcome!
Saw My First Alero
Re: Conv top cylinders
Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long
Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long
Olds show in Maryland?
RE: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1477
About the
carb question
Re: About the
AOL h*lp, please
Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long
Re: UNBOUNCE: Ported my Lawn mower, am I sick?
Re: AOL h*lp, please
Re: Your W-31
Frame numbers
Re: arcing problem and spark plugs readings
Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q
Re: oxidation and stains
Re: This Sunday, Kane County, IL
Re: AOL h*lp, please
Re: CCR/Templeton Show 9/13 - Who's going?
Re: AOL h*lp, please
Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q
Oil pressure/plug gap
Re: AOL h*lp, please
403 motor TOM
Re: Oil pressure/plug gap
403 motor TOM
Re: Found; Cast Crank Pulley and vin ?
newbie - tire sizes
Re: Mr President????????
Re: About the
Re: Information wanted on "subbing-out" (sub chassis mod)
Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long
Re: Towing (was: Information.. was: Toro Graveyard, revisit)
Re: newbie - tire sizes
Re: newbie - tire sizes
Any F85 knowledge?
YEAR OF MANUFACTURE OF ENGINE
Re: names
Parting '68 Toro
Re: UNBOUNCE: Ported my Lawn mower, am I sick?
'66 442 disc brake booster problem
Re: Oil pressure/plug gap
Re: '66 442 disc brake booster problem
Re: '66 442 disc brake booster problem
77 OLDS 88 Indy Pace Car FS
Re: Mr President????????
X manifolds?
on are way!!!!!!
75 Hurst/Olds for sale
Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long
Re: Big Mac's New Car
Re: Oil pressure/plug gap
Re: Setting up a OLDS website
One of the last "summer" Michigan days
Re: newbie - tire sizes
[none]
Re: Setting up a OLDS website
Re: assembly manual

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:40:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: re: car shows in Knoxville area...

There's something automotive related going on in Gatlinburg almost every
weekend... week before last there was some big show/swapmeet down there...
You might try contacting some local clubs... There's a chapter of the OCA
in Gatlinburg.  Lots of classics around that area... lots of hot rods
though...



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     work:  GQPR12E@Prodigy.com
 |  |  |
 | / \ |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 |/   \|
  \   /      1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
   \ /          (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
    |           http://www.442.com/pierce.html
	     1980 Rover 3500 SD1
		(215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:14:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Chebucto Down Tomorrow

Chebucto tells me they will be down tomorrow (Saturday) from 7AM EDT to
early afternoon. Mail sent to the list during that time may or may not
bounce back to you, but certainly will not be forwarded to the list until
after they come back online.  Hopefully there will be no problems.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:16:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Re: Mr President????????

Obviously a lot of people have strong feelings on this subject (including
me) but the Olds list is not the place to air them. Let's try to keep it
off here, OK gang?

Thanks!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:17:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Re: oxidation and stains help???

A problem with Mike's mailer; forwarding.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	<Michael_Baugher/MO/americancentury@americancentury.com>
Subject: Re: oxidation and stains help???

My dad had the same problem with his car, and for the leaf stains, he used
a paint cleaner by Meguiar's. It removes the wax (the stains actually crept
in under the wax, so no amount of washing or waxing would get rid of them),
and lets you get to the paint to remove the stains and possibly the
oxidation. Then he applied a new coat of wax, and the problem was solved.
It might not work for your car, but it's not a bad place to start.

Mike

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:27:04 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: Mr President????????

Ok Gregg


Sorry,  It won't happen again

Lets talks about 1968 Hurst/Olds' instead!!!!!!!


Vinny

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:54:07 -0700
From: Jim Bauman <jbauman@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Conv top cylinders

OLDZ69442@aol.com wrote:

>pull motor out of car dispose of brake fluid and replace with fresh brake
>fluid personal preference everyone one else is going to tell you to switch to
>dexron II

WHY WHY WHY would you choose to use brake fluid??  Brake fluid is
corrosive whereas Dexron II is not.  Imagine the mess to your paint
if the line or pump fails and leaks all over under your back seat or in the
trunk. Yuk.

As for performance, I doubt that there is a difference between
the two fluids in actual operation.

Jim Bauman
'65 98 Convertible

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:50:26 -0500
From: Brad Nicholson <brad442@erols.com>
Subject: CCR/Templeton Show 9/13-Everyone Welcome!

As with just about all Oldsmobile shows I've been to, you do not have to
be a member to attend, any and all Oldsmobile's welcome.  If you can't
bring somethin', show up and enjoy the atmosphere.

I agree w/ Drew Senko, Cory Corell, the T-shirt artist, designs great
stuff and even does shirts/event designs for other events.  A goodie
bag, dash plaque & t-shirt for $10 is a steal and the shirts are
available for separate sale usually

In the past the parts dept at Templeton is usually open and has specials
the day of the show like "PARTS AT COST" and will even special order if
not in stock, but DON'T HOLD ME OR TEMPLETON TO THAT it could be
different this year.

Look for me and my black/silver 1987 442 with a fake front MD plate "442
W-42"

Brad Nicholson  (OCA's WebGuy)
brad442@erols.com
Former President Capitol City Rockets (1995 1/2 thru 1996)
Current President Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Maryland

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:03:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Saw My First Alero

I was walking past O'Regan's Ch*v-Olds today and stopped because a '79
Lemans coupe on their used lot caught my eye (OK, OK, but we used to own
one years ago and this one had "1-owner, 58K kms" soaped on the
windshield). It was kind of tired as it turned out and not worth the 3K
they were asking, but parked nearby were 2 new Aleros, the first I've seen
in person, one 2-door and one 4-door.

No pricing yet, but I liked their looks. They seemed bigger than a
Cavalier, I guess they are based on the Grand Am platform. The 2-door was
sharp-looking, though unfortunately not as neat as the concept version I
saw at Lansing last year (what a car that was! Make it, Olds!!) but still
a sharp design. The rear quarter window almost reminded me of my '68
Cutlass. :) The 4-door looked sharp too with a nice design on the rear
door to give a wide opening. What I was encouraged by was that the 4-door
actually had a bit of color inside -- sort of a Kraft caramel shade of tan
that was different and I sort of liked, whereas the 2-door had the
infamous anonymous "neutral" shade that was a pale beige. Unfortunately
the cloth material in both cases was that same awful-looking flecked
pattern fuzzy stuff that all manufacturers use these days. But maybe
there's hope yet for green or blue upholstery... think maybe they would
make up one in red brocade cloth for me? ;-)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:12:29 EDT
From: TimLeary97@aol.com
Subject: Re: Conv top cylinders

Use DOT 5 silicon brake fluid.  It costs more than regular brake fluid or
trans fluid, but it's non corrosive.  It is not harmful if it gets on paint or
vinyl.  In fact, silicon is actually a preservative for plastics.  I'll bet
lines, seals and any other internal plastic or rubber parts on the cylinder or
motor will last longer with the silicon fluid.

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:14:42 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long

85 Salon running mid 12's?  What is in this?

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:19:12 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long

EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS!  YOU BASTARD!



just kidding.  That was divine intervention from the Olds God.  You must have
done something very good to an Olds to deserve such a deal.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:27:11 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: Olds show in Maryland?

Hi.  Did someone mention something about an Olds show in Maryland on Sept.
19th?  Can someone tell me where it is and how far it is from Dover Downs?
Thanks.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:32:59 -0400
From: "Gary J Couse" <gjcouse@mhonline.net>
Subject: RE: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1477

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:47:11 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Interesting Classified Ad

In a message dated 98-09-10 15:31:19 EDT, you write:

<< 96 Special Construction 3-Wheeler. Powered by 455 Olds, Auto, air craft
alum. body, 2 seats in-line, 5 pt. harness belts, 185 est. top speed.
$4,500.
>>

Yikes!

Absolutely Insane. What's the rest of the address. Got to get me some Olds
thrills in hy-per speed.

Gary.

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:54:38 -0400
From: "Gary J Couse" <gjcouse@mhonline.net>
Subject: About the

{Snip}

I am parting out the 84 from the yard to make the old man car nice.  If
anyone needs anything, let me know.  I had this car for sale on Bryces
page, but now I need odds and ends off of it.

Tony




How much do you want for the Rearend, Trans, Shifter, + Console? Huummm...

Gary.

gjcouse@mhonline.net

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:16:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: carb question

Hi,
   Need help again....got lotsa info...but not this.
I've got a Q-jet # 17057256...believed from a '77 403.Can anyone
verify this.At any rate, I'm able to do some SERIOUS wheel spin with
NO powerbraking with "TOPLESS " now...:)
         TIA,
            SMAN
==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:36:30 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: Re: About the

Hey there.

If you have a console or bucket seats, I'll take them.  Of course no one has
such things.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:43:43 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: AOL h*lp, please

Could someone using AOL please explain to me how to create a signature file?

Also, how I do I turn off this damn flash session thing.  Every time I go to
send something, it says it is saved to send later.  I like that option, but I
don't want to use it all the time.  I figured it'd only do that if I clicked
on "send later".  How can I send something immediately without going into the
filing cabinet and reopening mail and opening up saved-to-be-sent mail and
sending it from there?
Thanks...

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Sure wish I didn't have to type this all the time...

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:02:39 -0400
From: Shawn <shawno22@erols.com>
Subject: Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long

If you are selling the parts off of the 84 Hurst, are you willing to part
with both doors???  I need a set for my 84 Supreme, badly...Let me know...

Sincerely,

Shawn
shawno22@erols.com





At 03:29 PM 9/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone!
>
>Summer is almost over and I am back on the Olds list!  I hope everyone is
>well and that a lot of happy Oldsmobiling was done by all.
>
>I did very well drag racing my 85 Salon.  I got a new 60 foot time of 1.5
>seconds.....not bad.  Still running mid 12's at around 110.
>
>My 455 Olds powered boats ran better than ever!! Lota skiing and water
racing!
>
>The W-30 convert that you guys talked me into buying is in our shop getting
>a total repaint.  What a fun car!  I really enjoyed running around this
>summer with the top dropped.
>
>The best part of summer happened at the salvage yard I worked at.  A 70
>year old man came in and wanted help putting belts on his 84 Cutlass.
>(Right away I thought ciera)  Then he told me it was a V8.  (I thought
>Supreme)  Then he said it was a fancy one with T-tops and 3 shifts. I said
>Hurst?  He said yes!  He wanted me to come to his house and help with the
>belts.  I got there, and sure enough....84 Hurst!  He bought it new and was
>very frusterated with replacing belts.  I gave him the ol' line of how I
>always wanted one of these...And guess what? We made a deal and I now own
>another 84 Hurst Olds!  For 800 Bucks!!!!
>
>This leads to my question....
>
>The 84 that I bought out of the junk yard last spring has a chrome air
>cleaner lid with one snorkel aiming to the drivers side.  The 84 that I got
>from the old man has a black air cleaner lid with 2 snorkels.  A long
>narrow one on the left and a stubby fat one on the right.   Which car has
>the correct air cleaner?
>
>I am parting out the 84 from the yard to make the old man car nice.  If
>anyone needs anything, let me know.  I had this car for sale on Bryces
>page, but now I need odds and ends off of it.
>
>Thanks for the infor on air cleaners!
>
>Tony
>
>70 442 W-30
>70 442 W-30 convert
>65 Jetstar 88 w/4-speed
>85 Cutlass Salon 455 Drag Racer
>84 Hurst Olds
>84 Hurst Olds parts car
>92 Seville STS
>
Shawn
1984 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:20:14 -0400
From: Peter Flinkfelt <pftno1klr@edgenet.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Ported my Lawn mower, am I sick?

I was thinking more along the lines of running a 350 deisel with a
blower. My problem is my yard is too small:)

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:   Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com>
> Subject: Ported my Lawn mower, am I sick?
>
> I think I need help, was rebuilding my Lawn Mower carb last night and
> got to looking at the intake manifold....Then out came the Dremel and
> some cartridge rolls, well...
>
> Do I need help?
>
> (Olds Content)  I need to find a way to get a Olds 215 or 260 on a
> riding mower, anyone got any ideas?
>
> Thomas Martin
> 85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
> 91 Bonneville LE 3800
> 80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:12:43 EDT
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: AOL h*lp, please

In a message dated 9/11/98
 9:<BR08:<BR26 PM Central Daylight Tim, Olds409@AOL.COM writes:

> Could someone using AOL please explain to me how to create a signature file?

Preferences, under "My AOL"

>
>  Also, how I do I turn off this damn flash session thing.  Every time I go
to
>
Setup Automatic AOL, under "Mail Center"

Cheers/Carron

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:12:38 -0400
From: "Chris Smetana" <chris@abcs.com>
Subject: Re: Your W-31

Hi all,
Well, I think I have found out some very interesting info about that email
I got earlier in the week.  Thanks to David Brown, I think I have pieced
together what has happened. On the 8th I noticed a car for sale ad on
442.com from an individual in Petosky, MI selling a 70 W-31 for $3K or
best.  So I emailed him requesting more info.  Several hours later I got
that email from the guy commenting about my car and he cc'd 4 people
including the owner of the 70 W-31 but used a different email address,
marknik@freeway.net, which David told me was in Petosky, MI, instead of the
one listed in the ad, which is markdark98@hotmail.com.  Then earlier
tonight I received an email from Mark Haney, owner of the 70 W-31, from the
hotmail account that is listed in the ad with some info about the car and
it was a very normal reply, unlike the email from, I'm guessing, one of his
friends.  So my guess is that one of Marks friends is acting like an ass.
Incidently the other 3 email addresses are also located in MI,
 	up.net		Baraga, MI
 	racc2000.com	Alanson, MI
 	northlink.net	Traverse City, MI
 	freeway.net	Petoskey, MI

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
work: csmetana@dowagro.com   only good thru tuesday
home: chris@abcs.com

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

- ----------
> From: Chris Smetana <chris@abcs.com>
> To: Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Fw: Your W-31
> Date: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 9:09 PM
>
> Hey all,
> I'm at home and just decided to check my email and I get this msg from
some
> moron.  I think everyone will get a good laugh out of it like I did,
> actually I haven't even read it word for word yet, just skimmed it, but
it
> will get 86'd like the rest of the email trash I receive from time to
time
> from jeleous idiots.
>
> Chris Smetana
> Terre Haute, IN
> work: csmetana@dowagro.com   may only be good for another week
> home: chris@abcs.com
>
> 1969 W-31  aka the Forrest Gump car   that cracks me up
> 1969 4-4-2 parts car
> plus others
>
> ----------
> From: wrench <cyclewheel@yahoo.com>
> To: chris@abcs.com
> Cc: Phil Jacobson <pjake@up.net>; Miles Russell <mrussell@racc2000.com>;
> Matt Russell <valve@northlink.net>; Mark Haney <marknik@freeway.net>
> Subject: Your W-31
> Date: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 1:52 AM
>
> Dude,
>     What is up with your Cutlass?  It is a parts car, or what's left of
> one.  Almost nothing on your description matches the picture.  This is
> obviously a 5 bolt rear end, the hood is wrong, the rims are wrong, and
> what's up with the Toronado paint?  Does the incorrect paint somehow make
> this rusty-wonder worth more?  Your harmonic balancer and pulleys are
bad,
> the wiring looks like Forest Gump rewired it for a Kraco cassette player,
> the quarters are shot, the door skins are bad (and it doesn't even have
> mounting holes FOR the exterior mirrors), the front fenders MIGHT be able
> to be saved, the front suspension is sagging, the interior is obviously
> shot to hell (the mice all died from the bad taste, I'm sure), and from
the
> amount of filth in the intake area of the air cleaner assembly I can see
> why it burns oil.  No Olds lover would have the balls to post a picture
> like this without an "after" set of pictures to reassure horrified
> onlookers such as myself that a car with a small amount of soul left has
> been taken in by someone who cares and will spend more than 2 hours
putting
> plugs in and clogging a leak or two.  This, however, is obviously not the
> case.  You are a sad example of a classic car owner and I really hope you
> take this e-mail to heart before decimating any more of Detroit's finest
> works of art.  Whoever sold you this car (for $200.00?) needs a swift
> ass-kicking.
>
>
>
>

>                      Take a Lesson Chris,
>

>                               Wrench
>
>
> P.S. If the car somehow is in better condition, send me some proof, and
an
> apology will be in order.
> If not, maybe I shouldn't have been so nice.
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:29:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: ttjbmm@webtv.net (todd thomas)
Subject: Frame numbers

Hi guys , got a good question for you all, I had my car up on the rack
the other day and found some numbers stamped on the frame and dont know
what they all are. The numbers are as follows: 6263667 and the letter S
(with a circle around it) 366 and then under that there is a
3   9  S2   C   R.  I know what the 6263667 is for ( frame part number)
but I dont know what the rest of them are, any help would be apprecated.
thqnks in advance.
Todd Thomas
1972 W 30

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:51:41 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: arcing problem and spark plugs readings

<snip previous stuff>

>With the cap on, the rotor is the mechanism that allows the spark to go
>in the right area.  Without the rotor, the spark will jump wherever it can
>(which happens to be what you are seeing).  From what I can tell of what
you
>are saying, you are getting exactly what you should be when the cap is off.
>
>Chris Ruper


I would agree with that except that to jump 2-1/2 inches you'd need
(theoretically) 100 thousand volts, and I don't know any ingnition that
powerful. Unless it was really humid (damp air is more conductive) or, as I
suggested, there were some conductive path in the cap that the spark could
follow.

drc

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:43:14 -0700
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q

The 2-snorkel cleaner on the one from the old man is correct.  And $800
is the steal of a lifetime!  How'd you get so lucky to wander across
*two* H/O deals in one lifetime?!?

There's a few parts I'd like off the parts car if you have them
available:
Power seat drive cables (transmission unit wouldn't hurt either)
Switch on the side of the power seat
Cruise control servo (the part under the hood)
Cruise "brain" (a black box above the gas pedal)

e-mail me with a price please!

Thanks!

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:34:09 -0700
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Re: oxidation and stains

Try some rubbing compound.  I prefer Meguairs "Fine Cut Cleaner, #2",
Followed by their "High Tech Yellow Wax, #26".  Once the finish is
clean, wax it every couple months with the #26 and once a year with
their "Cleaner/Wax".

The #2 brought back the horribly faded, stained, red finish on our '78
truck.  It was like a miracle, I couldn't believe how it turned out.  My
SO (she drives the truck) asked if I got it painted. . .

Tom.

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:57:30 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: This Sunday, Kane County, IL

In a message dated 98-09-11 16:24:58 EDT, you write:

<< The neatest part came at the end when the took a disassembled ford model A
and put it back together in less than two minutes and drove it 50 yards.
Anybody else on the list going? >>

To put my car together in two minutes?

Not me.

It takes me about that long to sort out which way my water pump goes on.

Would you post locale of fairgrounds?

Sorry, at Bloomington Centre?

What is easy way to find?

If (want to) Karl goes, mut arrive, leave early.

Got 4 nice springs to play with.

Thanks much.

K

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:05:37 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: AOL h*lp, please

In a message dated 98-09-11 22:23:46 EDT, you write:

<< > Could someone using AOL please explain to me how to create a signature
file? >>

When Karl bothered with that stuff, he sent an Email to Karl containing only
what he desired as a footer.
Then Karl saved same in "favorite places" (you click on the "heart" icon that
looks more like a red sock).

When scribing a missive, Karl would call up saved footer, copy and paste.

But the prob is, IMHO, it gets too lengthy, so when you use flashsessions, and
send several emails at once, the meek digest folk get NUKED with 5 Emails in
succession with the exact same footer, plus all the internet routing garbage
that the real-time folks ignore.

Not fun.

For example;

Karl Aune
and Soylent Ocean Mist
1965 Dynamic 88 Celebrity Sedan
Members; OCA, IVOC
KarlAune@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html
Director of World Domination, Inc. a division of Microsoft.

"Sic, semper ductapus!"
  -[ Thus, always use duct tape! ]



'Nuff said.

SOM
&KA

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:06:44 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: CCR/Templeton Show 9/13 - Who's going?

> I'll be at the CCR/Templeton Show Sunday, anyone else going?
> ...
>
> Brad Nicholson
> OCA's WebGuy
> brad442@erols.com

The Blue/Gray Chapter will be sending two constituents.  Since I've got
one of the steering knuckles half ripped off of the convertible, I'll
have to bring the 98 (it's big and Turquoise, you won't miss it).  My
buddy, Vaughn will have his '72 Cutlass S 4-speed there (blue with a
white top and hood stripe).  See you there.  Brad, we're leaving around
7am, won't be able to meet up with your group, but appreciate the offer.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:17:41 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: Re: AOL h*lp, please

In a message dated 98-09-11 22:24:06 EDT, SpeedCom@aol.com writes:

<< > Could someone using AOL please explain to me how to create a signature
file?

 Preferences, under "My AOL" >>

Call me an idiot, but I don't seem to be able to find this option.

Ray Costanzo
47 809 Cutlass

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:12:15 -0400
From: Jim Olson <jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q

Tom, is the cruise control stuff different on an 85 S?

Jim...

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:25:32 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: Oil pressure/plug gap

The other day, I widened my plug gap from .050 to .060.  After doing so, my
oil pressure seems about 5-7 psi higher on average.  Is this normal?  Does
this means that the plug is kicking the piston down harder and the engine is
producing more power?  I didn't really notice a difference.

Can anyone reccomend (sp?) what my plug gap should be?  10.5:1 compression in
a 403 with lumpy cam.  Thanks

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:33:51 EDT
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: AOL h*lp, please

In a message dated 9/11/98
 10:<BR27:<BR57 PM Central Daylight Ti, Olds409@aol.com writes:

>  Preferences, under "My AOL" >>
>
>  Call me an idiot, but I don't seem to be able to find this option.

No, Ray,

I'm sorry. I assumed you were using AOL 4.0. I'll bet you have 3.0, eh?

There is still a preferences, but I don't remember which heading. Maybe  some
3.0 user can help.

By the way, do you know how to get online help from an aol tech? It is in the
help (keyword) area, but I can't remember what it looks like in 3.0.

Cheers/Carron

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:34:10 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: 403 motor TOM

Hey Tom,

Any continued discussion about 403 engine should be sent to this address.  My
First Union account is getting on my nerves, so I'm doing the 100 free minutes
of AOL for a while.  See ya.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:35:12 EDT
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: Oil pressure/plug gap

In a message dated 9/11/98
 10:<BR28:<BR42 PM Central Daylight Ti, Olds409@aol.com writes:

> The other day, I widened my plug gap from .050 to .060.  After doing so, my
>  oil pressure seems about 5-7 psi higher on average.  Is this normal?  Does
>  this means that the plug is kicking the piston down harder and the engine
is
>  producing more power?  I didn't really notice a difference.

Ray,

Whatever you do, DON'T lower the air pressure in your tires until you've set
that gap back down!!! :-)

Cheers/Carron

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:35:34 EDT
From: Olds409@aol.com
Subject: 403 motor TOM

Hey Tom,

Any continued discussion about 403 engine should be sent to this address.  My
First Union account is getting on my nerves, so I'm doing the 100 free minutes
of AOL for a while.  See ya.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:11:34 EDT
From: CS81w350@aol.com
Subject: Re: Found; Cast Crank Pulley and vin ?

   I've got a cast crank pulley on the 350 in my car.  I was under the car
trying to find the timing mark on the harmonic damper.  There is supposed to
be a line on it, isn't there?  First time I have ever messed with timing,
anyway the engine is currently in an '81 cutlass.  Originally car had 350
diesel - previous owner switched to gas 350 - three months after I bought the
car it threw a rod and a cheap rebuilt long block was installed.  I have
always wondered where exactly this engine came from, so coincidentally I also
recently did my best to read the number off of the block.

question 1: What can someone tell me about 36X205428 which I understand is
part of the vin stamped on my block.

question B: How can I find the timing mark that indicates tdc on #1 piston on
a 350 olds?

question III: I have seen some of the rocker covers that have OLDSMOBILE
stamped in them.  Was there anything special about these engines or were these
rocker covers used during certain years?

P. S.    I just looked in my Chilton manual and the timing mark is on the
pulley isn't it?

TIA

Matt Pokorny
CS81w350@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:20:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrew Conkey <andrewc@uidaho.edu>
Subject: newbie - tire sizes

Hello all

I am a newbie to this list and have been lurking for a couple of weeks
now. I recently bought an '84 delta 88 royale coupe. It's in excellent
condition for its age - interior is flawless, exterior no rust, paint very
good original shape. It has 80k on the clock. It has the 307Y 4bbl engine,
runs flawlessly. I wonder if they ever offered this model with the '9'
engine - bummer mine doesn't have it... It was very well maintained. You
gotta love the old boats - the thing rides like an airplane. The only
negative to it (other than lack of a 455) is the th200c tranny, which I
hear is notorious for failure. Mine seems to be fine, however.

I have had the car for about a month now. So far have installed new front
shocks, guages (oil pressure, temp, amps, tach), and bought a factory
service manual. The next thing will be stereo. It had the original factory
*AM* radio in it!

The only thing it currently needs is tires. It has the stock size
P205/75/15s on it now, which look 'wimpy' to me. I would like to get as
much performance as possible out of it, so am debating putting on wider
tires. I am looking at P225/70/15s as a replacement. They would be about
an inch wider and 1/4 inch taller - hopefully not enough to drastically
change the speedo reading. Does anybody have any ideas on this change?
Will there be a 'noticeable' improvement? Any reason *not* to do this? Any
ideas on how to get more power out of this engine - cheaply and easily?

Thanks for any input.

ps - I have noticed many people on this list w/ similar vintage cars that
show quite a bit of age, especially rust. This olds is a replacement for a
'79 ch*vy caprice wagon (original low output 305 2bbl/th350) I got for
nothing 11 years ago. That car has 180k on it and spent 15 years in the
midwest. Needless to say, there isn't much left of it, but it always runs!
I am always amazed at how good a shape the olds is in! Of course they
don't salt the roads around here either (north idaho).

Andrew Conkey

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:08:33 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Mr President????????

whats the diff? then it was geri ford...........you can get up now mr
president...............
- -----Original Message-----
From: SpeedCom@aol.com <SpeedCom@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Mr President????????


>There is a real difference this time. *Now* the president would be Albert
>Gore. I have recently become one of clinton's fondest supporters.
>
>Cheers/Carron
>
>
>In a message dated 9/11/98
> 3:<BR36:<BR55 PM Central Daylight Tim, HURSTOLDZ@aol.com writes:
>
>> I thought all you Americans might like this
>>
>>
>>   ... it could come back to bite you.
>>
>>  A quote during the infamous Watergate scandal:
>>
>>  "Yes, the president should resign.  He has lied to the American
>>  people, time and time again, and betrayed their trust.  He is
>>  no longer an effective leader.  Since he has admitted guilt,
>>  there is no reason to put the American people through an
>>  impeachment.  He will serve absolutely no purpose in
>>  finishing out his term; the only possible solution is for
>>  the president to save some dignity and resign."
>>  >
>>        - William Jefferson Clinton, 1974.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:25:43 -0400
From: "Steve C" <cutlass@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: About the

cancel subscription
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary J Couse <gjcouse@mhonline.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 8:55 PM
Subject: About the


>{Snip}
>
>I am parting out the 84 from the yard to make the old man car nice.  If
>anyone needs anything, let me know.  I had this car for sale on Bryces
>page, but now I need odds and ends off of it.
>
>Tony
>
>
>
>
>How much do you want for the Rearend, Trans, Shifter, + Console? Huummm...
>
>Gary.
>
>gjcouse@mhonline.net
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:28:35 -0700
From: "John Young" <realtorjohn@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Information wanted on "subbing-out" (sub chassis mod)

Joe, both are now building "street" chassis with asociated strength, weight
and suspensions. Art is building replacement early truck chassis at 2X4
1/8th wall or better rect tubing to replace old rusted and outdated
chassis. I ran into the product in "Street Rodder".
realtorjohn@sprynet.com
69 442 W-32

- ----------
> From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Information wanted on "subbing-out" (sub chassis mod)
> Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 10:14 AM
>
> Don, uh Joe, oops sorry I got lost in the thread....i should read more
> carefully. There is also  WWW.cachassisworks.com. he might have something
> also. These guys are pros, so they won't be the cheapest, just the
> best.Good hunting
> realtorjohn@sprynet.com
> 69 442 W-32
> ______
>
> No prob, but I'd be cautious about using something from Chassisworks or
> Morrison on the street.  Their products are geared primarily towards drag
> racing, with the result that the most strenuous cornering this hardware
is
> designed to do is to turn onto the return road at the end of the quarter
> mile.  Most of their stuff it based on Mustang II front suspension
designs.
> The street rod crowd has been marketing subframe and IFS kits for a long
> time, starting with adapting the Jag XJ6 front end (it comes off on a
> bolt-on crossmember.  Many of these fat-fendered cars have big blocks and
> weigh about as much as an A-body (if not more).  I'd be skeptical of
using
> a drag race front end on one of these on the street.
>
> Joe Padavano
> padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
> 66 442
> 68 W-30
> 69 H/O
> 70 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:33:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Yasczak <VJTD@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long

is the the wing still in good shape with both tips still on it.  if so how much
do you want for it?  I may be interestd in it.

		Robb Yasczak  	 VJTD@GROVE.IUP.EDU

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:33:00 -0700
From: "John Young" <realtorjohn@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Towing (was: Information.. was: Toro Graveyard, revisit)

Joe, I remember that picture vividly, I had an argument with my dad about
Toros being front wheel drive! (I guess we're about the same era)
realtorjohn@sprynet.com
69 442 W-32


- ----------
> From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Towing (was: Information.. was: Toro Graveyard, revisit)
> Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 10:53 AM
>
> Did toros use a rear axle?
> ____________
>
> Yupper.  Gotta hold the back of the car off the ground somehow.
>
> The Toro rear axle (not to be confused with the lawnmower of the same
name)
> was a simple beam affair on leaf springs.  Makes a pretty good trailer
> axle, too...
>
> Speaking of holding the back of the car off the ground, does anyone else
> remember an article in Pop Mechanics (?) back in the late 60s (?) about
> trailer towing?  The lead-in photo, to demonstrate the benefits of an
> equalizer hitch, was a Toro towing a large trailer.  Thanks to the
> equalizing hitch, they were able to actually remove the rear wheels from
> the car!
>
> Joe Padavano
> padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
> 66 442
> 68 W-30
> 69 H/O
> 70 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:30:30 -0400
From: "Steve C" <cutlass@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: newbie - tire sizes

If you do not want to effect the speedometer then the acceptable tire sizes
you can upgrade to are 215/70R15 or 225/60R15 both of theses sizes will keep
your speedo fairly accurate
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Conkey <andrewc@uidaho.edu>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 12:25 AM
Subject: newbie - tire sizes


>
>Hello all
>
>I am a newbie to this list and have been lurking for a couple of weeks
>now. I recently bought an '84 delta 88 royale coupe. It's in excellent
>condition for its age - interior is flawless, exterior no rust, paint very
>good original shape. It has 80k on the clock. It has the 307Y 4bbl engine,
>runs flawlessly. I wonder if they ever offered this model with the '9'
>engine - bummer mine doesn't have it... It was very well maintained. You
>gotta love the old boats - the thing rides like an airplane. The only
>negative to it (other than lack of a 455) is the th200c tranny, which I
>hear is notorious for failure. Mine seems to be fine, however.
>
>I have had the car for about a month now. So far have installed new front
>shocks, guages (oil pressure, temp, amps, tach), and bought a factory
>service manual. The next thing will be stereo. It had the original factory
>*AM* radio in it!
>
>The only thing it currently needs is tires. It has the stock size
>P205/75/15s on it now, which look 'wimpy' to me. I would like to get as
>much performance as possible out of it, so am debating putting on wider
>tires. I am looking at P225/70/15s as a replacement. They would be about
>an inch wider and 1/4 inch taller - hopefully not enough to drastically
>change the speedo reading. Does anybody have any ideas on this change?
>Will there be a 'noticeable' improvement? Any reason *not* to do this? Any
>ideas on how to get more power out of this engine - cheaply and easily?
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>ps - I have noticed many people on this list w/ similar vintage cars that
>show quite a bit of age, especially rust. This olds is a replacement for a
>'79 ch*vy caprice wagon (original low output 305 2bbl/th350) I got for
>nothing 11 years ago. That car has 180k on it and spent 15 years in the
>midwest. Needless to say, there isn't much left of it, but it always runs!
>I am always amazed at how good a shape the olds is in! Of course they
>don't salt the roads around here either (north idaho).
>
>Andrew Conkey
>
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:02:11 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: newbie - tire sizes

- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Conkey <andrewc@uidaho.edu>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 12:21 AM
Subject: newbie - tire sizes

>Hello all
>
>I am a newbie to this list and have been lurking for a couple of weeks
>now...

Welcome to the list, Andrew.  First off, unfortunately, the 9 motor was not
offered in the Delta 88.  It'd probably make a decent performer out of it!
Alas, it was only offered in the Hurst/Olds for that year.  Rumor has it
that some late 80's Cadillacs had the 9 307, but that's not verifiable.
Anyway, the TH-200-C is a good tranny, just watch the reverse.  If you put
it into reverse and it waits about a second before "banging" into gear, you
might be looking at a rebuild soon.  Mine did it (84 Cutlass/307/TH-200-C)
at about 90,000 miles.  Neither the previous owner or I were hard on it...it
was just time for it to go, I guess.  Anyway, it's rebuilt now and it runs
better than ever.

>P205/75/15s on it now, which look 'wimpy' to me. I would like to get as
>much performance as possible out of it, so am debating putting on wider
>tires. I am looking at P225/70/15s as a replacement.

For the tires, those 225/70R15's sound good.  You might look into
225/65R15's, if you can find them.  If you really want an accurate speed
reading, the 70 series tire might be a touch tall (in 225mm width).  Also,
if it really handles like an airplane, may I suggest a swaybar bushing
replacement?  Even new factory rubber bushings do wonders for the handling
without much compromise on the ride handling.

I hope we can be of help in the future...

Jason Adcock
E-mail: rocketolds@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:08:13 -0800
From: Dirk Ayala <dayala@mail.bethel.wednet.edu>
Subject: Any F85 knowledge?

Hello,
     I just bought my first project car , which happens to be a '68 Olds
F85.
I needed a car fast, and I wanted a project with a V8.
I happened upon an Olds enthusiast who was restoring several project's
himself,
and had the F85 to unload for  $500.00 as is.
I listened to it run & decided I to work on an Oldsmobile.
     Well, I picked up a magazine trying to get some tip's to bringing
my 250 hp Rocket 350 up to it's potential, I just want it to be a fun
driver , but I've got the taste for some oomph now also.
So, my basic question is, any suggestion's?
Any response would be appreciated.
                                                              A new Olds
fan,

Dirk A.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:54:48 +1000
From: Goodsex <BIKESHOP@bigpond.com>
Subject: YEAR OF MANUFACTURE OF ENGINE

SIR IHAVE A 350 DIESEL FITTED IN MY LOCALLY  PRODUCED PICKUP MADE  BY GENERAL
MOTORS HOLDEN AUSTRALIA  INEED TO KNOW THE YEAR OF MANUFACTURE OF THE ENGINE I
CANT GET ANY SENSE OUT OF ANYONE HERE IN AUSTRALIA AS TO WHAT YEAR OR WHERE
ICAN SOURCE PARTS COULD YOU PLEASE HELP THE ENGINE NO IS
3AM247187 ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED CHRIS WITE SERPENTINE VICTORIA
AUSTRALIA OR YOU CAN E/MAIL US BACK ON
BIKESHOP@BIGPOND.COM

THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE US IN THIS MATTER .

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:14:56 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: names

David L Wyatt wrote:
>
> Sorry, but the bottom of the barrel bowtie was the Biscayne, then Bel Air,
> Impala, and later on Caprice was the top of the line.

Haven't been watching this thread weave it's way, but it depends on what
year bowtie you are discussing.  The Bel Air name first showed up in
1953, the Impala didn't make an appearance until the 1959 models and the
Caprice line began in 1966.  On the others I really don't remember.
Guess my age is showing just to remember this much.  But then again if I
can remember it I guess my age isn't showing all THAT much, huh?  My
grandfather had a 4 dr 1953 Bel Air and my father had a 1967 Caprice.
Funny some of the things that hang with you as the years pass.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:13:11 EDT
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Parting '68 Toro

About 6 weeks ago I mentioned to this list a '68 Toro here in SoCal I was set
to buy and would be parting. Well, I finally got it.

I'll be keeping the engine but the rest will go and reasonably.

Dry car, nice body, glass, rear bumper and trim. 8track, chrome wheels, power
windows, new radiator and brake parts (booster, calipers and rotors). Blue
exterior and Tan interior.

Email Privately to

Coupeking@aol.com

Peter Sliskovich
San Pedro, CA

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:25:20 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Ported my Lawn mower, am I sick?

Kerry Kroger wrote:
>
> use a dry sump and mount it on its back make a crank adapter for the blade
> you may need fuel injection and    wait a minute what am I saying we both
> may need help now......

You are only sick if you are trying attach a V8 or a 4 or 6 with a
turbo.  Anything less than 200 horse is a go cart with a mower blade!
:)  I have been threatening to try and drop a 455 into one just to see
how long it would take to mow my 3/4 acre or so of lawn.  If it doesn't
rain here pretty soon there won't be anything to mow anyway.  Wonder
what the qtr numbers would be on a built normal aspired 455 on a 317
John Deere lawn tractor.  Tim the Tool Man would be proud......  Let's
see, about 600 or so hp and about 1,000 pounds of weight including
driver, etc.........

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:24:46 EDT
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: '66 442 disc brake booster problem

List-
Have just put discs onto the front of '66 442 and now I find that the booster
hits my valve covers.

Can't just switch to the original 'notched' valve covers cuz they're too short
to cover my snazzy roller rocker setup.

I need a smaller booster but one that will work for my discs. Smaller
diameter.

Anybody ever seen this problem before? Any other GM applications that will
fit? Any and all ideas appreciated-

TIA

Peter
CoupeKing

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:26:12 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure/plug gap

You mean spark plug gap? Wow that sounds strange. I don't think that spark
plug gap could increase oil pressure by 5-7pounds. If this is true I will
give it a try.....
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: SpeedCom@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Oil pressure/plug gap
> Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 10:35 PM
>
> In a message dated 9/11/98
>  10:<BR28:<BR42 PM Central Daylight Ti, Olds409@aol.com writes:
>
> > The other day, I widened my plug gap from .050 to .060.  After doing
so, my
> >  oil pressure seems about 5-7 psi higher on average.  Is this normal?
Does
> >  this means that the plug is kicking the piston down harder and the
engine
> is
> >  producing more power?  I didn't really notice a difference.
>
> Ray,
>
> Whatever you do, DON'T lower the air pressure in your tires until you've
set
> that gap back down!!! :-)
>
> Cheers/Carron

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:39:26 EDT
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: '66 442 disc brake booster problem

In a message dated 9/12/98 1:26:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, COUPEKING@aol.com
writes:

<< Have just put discs onto the front of '66 442 and now I find that the
booster
 hits my valve covers.

 Can't just switch to the original 'notched' valve covers cuz they're too
short
 to cover my snazzy roller rocker setup.

 I need a smaller booster but one that will work for my discs. Smaller
 diameter.

 Anybody ever seen this problem before? Any other GM applications that will
 fit? Any and all ideas appreciated-

 TIA >>

dad has a booster and master cylinder off of a '79 or so trans-am on his '67
442.  works fine, but im not sure about your valve covers, his are stock.  he
has front disk brakes off of a '69 camaro, i think.
jeremy

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:47:04 EDT
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Re: '66 442 disc brake booster problem

Did he have to modify the '79 Trans Am setup at all? or was it a bolt on?
Peter

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:16:43 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: 77 OLDS 88 Indy Pace Car FS

Local Auto Trader has the following in it:

1977 Olds 88 Indy Pace Car, original 54k miles, 403 engine, all numbers
match, 90% origianl, needs restored, can drive car anywhere $3,500 OBO
513 724-5569  Located in central Ohio somewhere. The ad didn't say
where.

Standard disclaimers apply.  Hope someone can help this poor orphan find
a good home.  I have no idea how many were made as my book doesn't say.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:58:02 -0600
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Mr President????????

At least you guys have an interesting president.  Here in Canada, our Prime
Minister Cretien (not sure how to even spell his name) is never to be heard
from or about.  I bet that even if he tried (and I bet he does) he could not
get any intern to talk to him.  Just joking.....

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 03:07:06 -0700
From: "Mike Jones" <mike@gleep.com>
Subject: X manifolds?

	I have a friend who tells me he has found a left hand X manifold from a
'71 Delta 88, with a 455 2bbl and
_SINGLE_ exhaust.  This manifold does not have a divider between the ports,
and from what I have been told, the GM part number does not match any that
are listed in the FAQ.  Any ideas?  I'll be getting the PN from him soon.

Mike Jones

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:06:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: ttjbmm@webtv.net (todd thomas)
Subject: on are way!!!!!!

see you soon!!!!
well maybe not that soon !!!!
love you!!!
mary

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:34:49 EDT
From: DUKEOFBLUZ@aol.com
Subject: 75 Hurst/Olds for sale

very nice shape ,, runs great,, black with gold stripes,, A\C,, tilt,, t-
tops,, $6000
815-965-5242
Rockford ,IL

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:59:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: I'm Back and 84 Hurst Olds Q Sorta long

Is this Hurst being parted the same one with no title and steering column
discussed several weeks ago? (i.e. potentially HOT).

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 05:14:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Big Mac's New Car

- ---Mikeytvb@aol.com wrote:
>
> cardinal red 62 vette, convertable.    wow, i have got to learn how
to hit
> home-runs.
>
> mikeytvb@aol.com
>
- -----But a 62 (I know...62 hr's).....I'd go for 98!!!
            SMAN
==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:21:23 EDT
From: TimLeary97@aol.com
Subject: Re: Oil pressure/plug gap

If your idle speed increased when you changed the spark gap, that would be the
likely cause of the change in oil pressure.

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:30:05 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Setting up a OLDS website

>I'm looking for some advice.>
I am working at getting a current copy of MS Frontpage, and that should be
good start, but I sure could use any advice you may have on getting a
relatively inexpensive web site started and maintaining it going forward.>


Hi Jeff,

I'm no "expert" either but I designed and still maintain two different web
sites for businesses as well as my own personal web site.  I also use the
Frontpage software and recently just upgraded to the "98" version.

The main thing to remember is to keep the graphic file sizes down!  Be sure
to compress the images after scanning.  Personally, I prefer to save
pictures as ".jpg" files instead of ".gif" files.  .jpg's seem to use less
space sometimes and tend to load faster.  You don't want the end user to get
bored while waiting for pictures to load.  Try to use "Thumb nails" when
possible.

Same goes for the fancy stuff like marquees and background sounds, etc.
There's nothing wrong with using these things just as long as the page loads
fully in under let's say 60 seconds for example.  Having said that, my
personal web site is on that border.  It takes a little while to load, but
not too long.  Feel free to visit my site!  It might give you an idea or
two.  If not, you'll at least have fun while your there!  Try to use the MS
Explorer browser to get the full impact of my site.

the "Oakbud Bar":     http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

Hope this helps you!  Good luck Mr. Webmaster.    8>)

=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:10:55 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: One of the last "summer" Michigan days

After many attempts over the last three weeks, I finally took the car for a
ride last night!  What was an absolute gorgeous night in Michigan and a nice
way to cap-off this summer.  Clear, no wind or heavy traffic and perfect
temperature for shorts and an open Hawaiian shirt.

Top down, radio on and I was gone.  Ahhh....the joys of owning a classic
Oldsmobile!  I don't know about you guys and gals, but when I drive my 4-4-2
I'm in a whole different dimension of the world.  Relaxed, happy and glad to
be alive!   Oh course I'm just a rider.  I let the car go wherever she
wants.  Turn here, turn there, open the 4 barrel here, take that 35 mph
curve at 50 there.  Once I ended up almost an hour from home.  Some of the
best drives are the ones with no set destination.  Just go..... "that way".

If this is how retirement is, then BRING IT ON!  8>)

=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:55:44 -0700
From: "ANDREW CONKEY" <ANDREWC@UIDFM.DFM.UIDAHO.EDU>
Subject: Re: newbie - tire sizes

Hey thanks, Jason. I will look into the 65 series. I checked
out your homepage - nice job. I noticed your factory tach
has a 4500RPM redline. Do you have the exact redline figures
for that engine?

My reference to the airplane handling - the thing handles
great for a boat! It is exactly as long as my full-size
caprice wagon, but there's no comparison in the handling.
The olds doesn't 'wallow' around fast curves at all. Its
still very tight. (The wagon has been relegated to official
beaterdome - too depressing to work on anymore!!!)

...Andrew

<<< "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>  9/11 10:02p >>>
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Conkey <andrewc@uidaho.edu>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 12:21 AM
Subject: newbie - tire sizes

>Hello all
>
>I am a newbie to this list and have been lurking for a
couple of weeks
>now...

Welcome to the list, Andrew.  First off, unfortunately, the
9 motor was not
offered in the Delta 88.  It'd probably make a decent
performer out of it!
Alas, it was only offered in the Hurst/Olds for that year.
Rumor has it
that some late 80's Cadillacs had the 9 307, but that's not
verifiable.
Anyway, the TH-200-C is a good tranny, just watch the
reverse.  If you put
it into reverse and it waits about a second before "banging"
into gear, you
might be looking at a rebuild soon.  Mine did it (84
Cutlass/307/TH-200-C)
at about 90,000 miles.  Neither the previous owner or I were
hard on it...it
was just time for it to go, I guess.  Anyway, it's rebuilt
now and it runs
better than ever.

>P205/75/15s on it now, which look 'wimpy' to me. I would
like to get as
>much performance as possible out of it, so am debating
putting on wider
>tires. I am looking at P225/70/15s as a replacement.

For the tires, those 225/70R15's sound good.  You might look
into
225/65R15's, if you can find them.  If you really want an
accurate speed
reading, the 70 series tire might be a touch tall (in 225mm
width).  Also,
if it really handles like an airplane, may I suggest a
swaybar bushing
replacement?  Even new factory rubber bushings do wonders
for the handling
without much compromise on the ride handling.

I hope we can be of help in the future...

Jason Adcock
E-mail: rocketolds@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:27:37 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Setting up a OLDS website

Jeff,

I've got to go along with RC here, keep it respectably simple, yet imaginative
enough to grab people's attention.  Heck, have fun with it -- your imagination
is about all that limits you.

As for software, I've been using AOLPress, (since I'm a real cheap bastard)
and it works fine for me.  But Mr. Hellebuyck has a killer site -- after I got
a newer browser that supported sound on web pages his was the first one I went
to that "spoke" to me, and that alone grabs your attention.  But the rest
keeps your attention, and that's exactly what they should do.

For an example of my limited capabilities, stop by my web pages at:
http://members.aol.com/ks7racing/index.htm

Take Care,
Ken

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:44:29 -0500
From: Dan Williams <442much@plutonium.net>
Subject: Re: assembly manual

Not trying to argue or anything, but those assembly manuals are missing pages.
I have copies out of another assembly manual that has the factory striping 
info.
Those pages are missing out of Mark's friends manual.  As I said before, his
copies are much better than the others.

Another comment I have on this subject is the Chevy manuals seem to be much
better than the Oldsmobile ones.  They are much more complete and the quality 
is
better.

- -Dan


>   I got a much better version from a friend of Mark
> > Cornea's.  I have also seen other ones that the two that I own ('68) and
> > they all seem to be missing different pages.
> >
>
>
>         Dan,
>                 A buddy of mine has a set of the green originals, he ran just
a few > sets for the Olds meet in Springfield and they went fast. His ARE the >
complete set for "A" body. > >


- --
Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                     68 442 Convertible

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