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oldsmobile-digest     Friday, September 18 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1493



RE: olds engine in truck?
FW: HELP
Re: Rochester disassembly
Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass
Remove Me From List
Door differences
Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass
Re: alternator wire, snip snip
Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass
Re: Buying/shipping cars long distance
RE: Parts interchange from an 84 t-type
unsubscribe
RE: 82 GN's
Re: Guage package
engine covers
Re: Olds list opinion wanted
Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass
Lightweight fans & hp
Re: block thread messed up! Suggestions?
Long Distance Hauling
Re: Carb Problems
shipping
Re: car prob?? was Re: Kane County, IL show & swap & car prob??
Wiper motor
Soylent Ocean Scraaaaaaape.
Re: Olds list opinion wanted
Re: Wiper motor
Re: Long Distance Hauling
Re: The Pinging 307
Re: 14" wheels with discs?
Re: Long Distance Hauling
Re: Windshield Antennas
Re: olds engine in truck?
Re: '69 Antennas
UNBOUNCE: Rocket Assistance Needed in Az.
UNBOUNCE: Door Interchange?
Re: engine covers
Re: Mallory Dual Point Problem in 69 CS
Re: UNBOUNCE: Rocket Assistance Needed in Az.
Re: Buying/shipping cars long distance
Re: Windshield Antennas
Re: Windshield Antennas
Re: UNBOUNCE: Door Interchange?
1971 442 4Sale and Parting 69
Parts 4 Sale
Restoration parts.
Re: Windshield Antennas
T3'S
Re: Buying/shipping cars long distance
Re: '69 Antennas
Re: olds engine in truck?
JWO?
Re: JWO?
Re: JWO?
Re: Restoration parts.
ATTENTION ALL HOME OWNERS!!!
Cutlass Poo at Centennial Cruise(MD)
re: virus stuff
Re: T3'S
HELP tranny jumps between 2nd and 3rd
Re: engine covers
Re: still overheating
Re: T3'S

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:25:17 -0400
From: "Fields, Brent (SE_ENG)" <fieldsb@valeo.sylvania.com>
Subject: RE: olds engine in truck?

I don't know if you could use them, but in the mid '70's when Chevrolet made
the Diesel available on the trucks that was the Olds engine.  I had a buddy
back in high school whose dad had bought a diesel Chevy truck and after the
engine blew up he put a 350 Olds in it's place.  Motor mounts may work
better than out of a car anyway.
You'll need a different transmission though unless you have a dual BOP/Chevy
bolt pattern transmission.
Brent Fields
LS2000 Design Group Leader
ValeoSylvania
1231 A Ave North
Seymour IN, 47274
Phone (812)-524-5340		Fax (812)-524-5397
www.fieldsb@valeo.sylvania.com <mailto:www.fieldsb@valeo.sylvania.com>


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Mikeytvb@aol.com [SMTP:Mikeytvb@aol.com]
	Sent:	Thursday, September 17, 1998 6:21 PM
	To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
	Subject:	olds engine in truck?

	i was wanting some info on an oldsmobile engine in a chevy truck.
the truck
	is a 68 c-10.  the engine of choice is a 403.  th-350, 3.73 rear.
are there
	any major problems with this combo?  do i need to make any special
exhaust
	pieces to hook up the olds manifolds to a chevy duel exhaust system.
also, do
	i need to make a shorter or longer drive shaft?  i think i will get
a set of
	cutlass frame mounts and weld them to the truck frame.  any info
would e
	greatly appriciated

	mikeytvb@aol.com
	68 c-10

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:28:00 -0500
From: "Telzrow, Terry N" <TerrenceN.Telzrow@Energizer.com>
Subject: FW: HELP

> ----------
> From: 	Telzrow, Terry N
> Sent: 	Friday, September 18, 1998 9:18 AM
> To: 	'oldsmobile@checbucto.ns.ca'
> Subject: 	HELP
>
> IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP ME??????????????????
>
>
> TO WHOM:
>
> 	MY DAUGHTER, AGE 19, JUST ENROLLED INTO NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY,
> FLAGSTAFF ARIZONA.
> 	SHE DROVE HER CAR, 1980 OLDS CUTLASS V8, (WITH ONLY 38,000 MILES ON
> IT) 2000 MILES FROM CLEVELAND OHIO TO FLAGSTAFF, AZ WITH NO PROBLEMS. THE
> FIRST FEW DAYS SHE CALLED ME AND SAID THE CAR WAS HAVING PROBLEMS GOING UP
> HILLS -- NO POWER. I TOLD HER TO TAKE IT TO THE OLDS DEALER. SHE DID AND
> WAS TOLD HE DIDN'T WANT TO WORK ON IT HE WAS TOO BUSY. SHE TOOK THE CAR TO
> ANOTHER SERVICE LOCATION AT OLDS RECOMMENDATION. THEY CONCLUDED THAT THE
> CATALYTIC CONVERTER WAS PLUGGED (MAKES SENSE). SHE HAD THE CONVERTER
> REPLACED. NEXT DAY THE CAR STOPPED ON THE HIGHWAY. ACCORDING TO HER IT
> JUST "QUIT". AAA CAME OUT AND GOT THE CAR STARTED. SHE TOOK THE CAR BACK
> TO THE GARAGE AND NOW THEY ARE TELLING HER IT NEED A NEW CARBURETOR -
> ESTIMATE $500.00.
> 	IS THERE ANYONE IN THAT AREA WHO COULD CONFIRM THIS DIAGNOSIS?  I AM
> 2000 MILES AWAY. WHAT IS THE ADVICE FROM MY OLDS COLLEAGUES??
>
> 							TERRY TELZROW
> 	
> terryn.telzrow@energizer.com
>
> 	p.s. My daughter's name is:
>
> 		Gretchen Telzrow
> 		520-523-7518
>
> 	Service garage:  Hurst Firestone, Flagfstaff Arizona
>
>

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:26:27 -0400
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Rochester disassembly

    Brandon:

    I have a Q-jet in my lap right now as I'm giving these isnstructions,
so you know this is real-time! You shouldn't need to force it but it can
be a bit tricky.  Position yourself so you're facing the primary side.
First, remove the small retaining clip holding the choke rod in the choke
lever at the top of the carb.  Next, work the choke rod free from the
choke lever.  The rod should now only be attached to the actuating lever
down inside the carb.  Now, rotate the choke linkage on the outside of the
carb (it looks like a counterweight) to raise the choke rod to it's
highest postion.  Hold the choke linkage in this position with your left
hand and wiggle the choke rod with your right hand and at the same time
try to to rotate it counterclockwise to free it from the lower actuating
lever.  It may help to lean the carb a bit to the left so gravity can help
you out a bit.  Also, it may help to rotate the choke linkage back and
forth slightly to help work the rod free from the lever.  How did I do
with my own instructions?  I've removed and reinstalled the choke rod
about eight times in the few minutes I've been typing this, so it should
work.  BTW, spray some carb cleaner down the recess where the choke rod
attaches to the lower lever to remove varnish, etc, that just tends to
glue it all together.  Have fun.

Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350

WI02 Rutschmann Brandon M. AO2 wrote:

> I have a 4bbl rochester and I would like to know if there is an easy
> way to remove the choke horn linkage that goes down inside the
> carbureator.  I have removed it once and it was almost impossible and
> I almost broke the linkage.  I need to remove it so I can get to the
> fuel bowl to change out the primary jets and metering rods.  Thank you
> for your help Brandon

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:47:04 +0100
From: DIKU@novo.dk (DIKU)
Subject: Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass

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Jeremy:

I have a 1978 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham.  It was my first car and I've had
it for 14 years. My husband and I restored it, but with a few updates.

I only know of '78's to come with either a V6 or a V8 (260), possibly a 307, 
I'm
not sure of the 307.  My car came with the 260cid.  When it started to make a
lot of internal noise at 140,000 miles.  We put in it a 350cid engine from a
1970 cutlass.  We bored it out to 30 over, put in a mild cam, valves, lifters,
etc.  Basically did the whole engine over.  It did have the original 350 tranny
(slushbucket) in it.  We took that out and in a 4 speed saginaw tranny.  We 
went
to a junk yard and got the clutch pedal assembly from a later 80's model camaro
and fitted it in with a little customizing.  We took off the column shift and
put the shifter on the floor.  It came out good.  It's almost road-ready.

But getting back to you...I would buy this car.  Sounds pretty decent.  Someone
may have put the 350cid in.  You may want to contact a Olds dealer to see if
they have records of what engines came in that year car.  Even if you kept it 
to
daily drive it would be worth it.  I know '78's aren't much in demand for
restoring, but I know we've had a hard time finding parts for ours.

Good luck with your endeavor.  Just wanted to let you know my experience with 
my
'78 cutlass.

Let me know how you make out.

Diane (diku@novo.dk)
Princeton, NJ
1978 olds cutlass




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Subject: found a '78 350cid cutlass
Author:  BIGJERMES@aol.com at Internet
Date:    9/18/98 12:50 AM


riding down the road today i passed a black cutlass with a for sale sign in
the windshield.  since i was looking for another daily driver, i stopped and
took a look.  the guy who owned the car came out and started telling me a
little about it, and the car seems pretty nice.  original 350 OLDS engine,
TH350 tranny,  column shift, black vinyle interior, black exterior w/red
pinstripes.  original car, paint and interiorwise.  the only new things on
there is 4 new white letter tires, rebuilt tranny, and the guy has a dash
cover to put in. when i asked the guy how much he was asking, he said hed take
6 or 700 bucks.  hmm....  i wouldnt mind having this car, it runs, and i just
flat out like it.  so i think ill give him an offer of around 500 bucks, and
ill let him decide if he really wants to get rid of it quick. what do you guys
think?  good idea or bad?  how many '78 cutlasses came with an olds 350
engine?  i figure if i buy the car, put $500 into it, drive it for a year or
so, i can maybe sell it for $800.  this will accomplish my primary goal, which
is to work on my present '78 cutlass.
tell me what ya think
jeremy
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:00:37 -0400
From: Matt Clark <hazmatt@tiac.net>
Subject: Remove Me From List

Please remove me from the list.

Thanks
hazmatt@tiac.net

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:07:12 -0500
From: <Michael_Baugher/MO/americancentury@americancentury.com>
Subject: Door differences

Could someone let me know if there's a difference between the hardtop and
convertible doors in 69?  I'm trying to locate one for a conv. and want to
get the right door.

Thanks very much.

Mike Baugher
69 Cutlass S conv

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:24:31 -0500
From: tonwald@eta.k12.mn.us (Tony Waldner)
Subject: Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass

>riding down the road today i passed a black cutlass with a for sale sign in
>the windshield.  since i was looking for another daily driver, i stopped and
>took a look.  the guy who owned the car came out and started telling me a
>little about it, and the car seems pretty nice.  original 350 OLDS engine,
>TH350 tranny,  column shift, black vinyle interior, black exterior w/red
>pinstripes.  original car, paint and interiorwise.  the only new things on
>there is 4 new white letter tires, rebuilt tranny, and the guy has a dash
>cover to put in. when i asked the guy how much he was asking, he said hed take
>6 or 700 bucks.  hmm....  i wouldnt mind having this car, it runs, and i just
>flat out like it.  so i think ill give him an offer of around 500 bucks, and
>ill let him decide if he really wants to get rid of it quick. what do you guys
>think?  good idea or bad?  how many '78 cutlasses came with an olds 350
>engine?  i figure if i buy the car, put $500 into it, drive it for a year or
>so, i can maybe sell it for $800.  this will accomplish my primary goal, 
which
>is to work on my present '78 cutlass.
>tell me what ya think
>jeremy


Jeremy --

in 1978 the only engines that were available were the 231 V6 Buick, the 260
V8 Olds, and the 305 Chevy.  The 350 Olds was only available in the '79 H/O
and the very rare '80 442.  To be sure on an engine's originality, just
check the VIN stamping on the block just under the left head at the front.
I really doubt that this is a factory 350 Olds set up.

I had a 78 Cutlass Supreme with a 305 Chevy and a 4-speed.  That was a very
different set up!  One of the cars that I wish I still had!  I have never
seen another one like it.  I have seen a few 260 5-speeds, but never a 305
4-speed.

Tony

70 442 W-30
70 442 W-30 convert
70 Toro GT W-34
65 Jetstar 88 w/4-speed
84 Hurst Olds
85 Cutlass Salon 455 Drag Racer
92 Seville STS

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:44:39 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: alternator wire, snip snip

>>  the wire you cut is for the idiot light.
>>  No sweat.
[...]
> Umm, several alternators ~rely~ on the idiot light to
> excite the alternator, i.e. get it to ~start~ charging.

I was kind of wondering why you felt the need to cut this
wire in the first place...?

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:56:17 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (aka Mr. Ada)" <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass

Tony Waldner wrote:

> in 1978 the only engines that were available were the 231 V6 Buick, the 260
> V8 Olds, and the 305 Chevy.  The 350 Olds was only available in the '79 H/O

Wasn't 1977 the last year of availability for the 350 Olds (aside from any H/O,
442
option)?  I believe I was told this by a service person at my local Olds
dealership.

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:00:39 -0400
From: Todd Morris <toddmorr@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Buying/shipping cars long distance

Well, Joe I suppose I'm a little naive but I when I bought my 442 from a guy in
Georgia several years ago I just trusted him.  We had several conversations on
the phone, he sent pictures, I had done a lot of searching and was fairly
confident of what I was getting.  I simply mailed him a cashier's check, which
he got before the transport company picked up the car, and 3 days later the car
was delivered.  650$ from Georgia to the WAshDC area.  I guess if it were a
numbers match national show winner I would have been more careful but that
process seemed to work for what I was looking for.

Todd Morris
71 442

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:09:19 -0600
From: Arnold Alvin TSgt <ARNOLDA@SCHRIEVER.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Parts interchange from an 84 t-type

  The '82 GN is silver gray in color...  you might find some pictures of it
by looking in the Turbo Buick Website...  I have a link to it on my website
http://www.inergy.com/iraceit

  Currently there is an '82 GN for sale.. one of the 16 that was
turbocharged and the asking price is at $25,000 I believe.  Look in the
Turbo TRader for additional details.

Louie

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Oldsmagnet [SMTP:buehner@lyrea.com]
> Sent:	Friday, September 18, 1998 2:34 AM
> To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject:	Re: Parts interchange from an 84 t-type
>
> > hee hee.... "black" only...   Where is Sidney, Montana in relation to
> > Shephard, Montana?  My mother's side is from that area.
>
> Hmm...  Small world...  (big state!) :)  Not sure where Shephard is.
> Can't find
> it on the map, and haven't ever been there....  Big state, though.  Sidney
> is
> about 150 miles from Canada, and about 5 miles from North Dakota.
> ~Officially~
> the middle of ~nowhere~!!!  I live in a (really) small town 11 miles
> north...
> (Fairview - no 455, or 442 in the zip code, but I'm still looking for a
> new
> town!)  Turns out another list member has parents in the area.....  1
> block away
> from me.  Small world, way too cool!  I'll be keeping my eyes open for
> Shepard,
> though.  I'm guessing it's over in the mountains, near Kalispel???  Just a
> hunch.  Anyway, was it the 82 that was silver, then?  Or was the 83 Turbo
> Regals
> silver, when the ~didn't~ make the GN?  Been awhile, but I know there was
> silver
> there ~somewhere~ :)
>
>
> >
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gregory S. Mayes" <gsmayes@mtu.edu>
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:24:00 -0600
From: Arnold Alvin TSgt <ARNOLDA@SCHRIEVER.af.mil>
Subject: RE: 82 GN's

  I'm the resident Buick GN guy on the list...  hee hee  I desire a Hurst
Lightning Rod shifter to add to my '84 GN.  I think the interest of which
car is better looking is in the eye of the beholder.  I'll have to say this
though...  very few of you guys are running mid 12's or better with a V8 let
alone a V6 like us.  "IRACEIT" is my license plate.  Don't feel bad... I
pick on the Vette guys too!  Fiberglass assists in the digestion of all of
the Camaro and Mustango body part snacks.

  Could one of you guys find me the shifter I desire?

Louie Arnold
'84 GN
http://www.inergy.com/IRACEIT
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	S-MAN [SMTP:super442@yahoo.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, September 17, 1998 5:31 PM
> To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject:	RE: 82 GN's
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---Gary J Couse <gjcouse@mhonline.net> wrote:
>  Any takers for a shot on your web page?
>
> ----I'll take whatever you got.....and anyone else out there without a
> page....I got plenty of space.....~you~ put what ~you~ want
> there...with in reason...like nothing out of line...but cars ....what
> ever you want....
>                    hit me direct if interested..
>                Sman
> ==
> John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
> TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
> 1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
> http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
> Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
> -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts
>
> _________________________________________________________
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:12:54 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Guage package

> When i go to put the gauge cluster in my 87, how will I do it
> with the completely different engine.  Right now, I have
> mechanical oil and temp gauges. [...] I know I'll need to get
> some sending units or something, will they work with an
> Edelbrick intake.

I don't think the intake will know the difference. I assume you are
putting aftermarket gauges in the car? If you have a mechanical oil
gauge, it's supposed to have a plastic capillary tube which leads to
a little fitting down by the sending unit; you usually set up a Tee
fitting so you can continue to use the warning light in conjunction
with the gauge. If this was a used gauge package you got, you'll need
to find a replacement capillary tube kit for hooking up to the engine.

As for the mechanical temp gauge... is it totally mechanical? That
would also come with a big long metal tube like an oversized
thermometer that goes aaalllll the way through the firewall and
screws into the block in place of the TEMP idiot light switch. The
idiot light for TEMP is therefore not functional anymore (you can't
Tee those with the sending units; the sender must be immersed in the
coolant flow), although it will still light up when you start the car.

If your gauges are actually electrical, you need only run electrical
wires out to the engine, and use electrical sending units. Sending
units and idiot light switches use the same threads, so they are
swap-in replacements for each other.

> Do I need a computer in the car,  I would assume/hope not.

Not as far as the gauges are concerned, no.

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:23:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: engine covers

Hi Guys,

looking thru my shop manual I saw that the 68 350 had some kind of covers
over the openings on top of the block in between the lifters, right over
the cam. They look like tin covers and my block shows threads in the
location where those covers are supposed to go.

What are these covers good for? Do I need them? (The engine did not have
them when I took it apart) If I need them, where can I get them??

George

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:32:47 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Olds list opinion wanted

(combining unrelated quotes below)

> Sometimes it would be nice just to know how far this list has
> taken us.

Basically, around the world. In the past we had a collective effort
to find and ship a '64 Olds ignition switch to Esko Iola in Finland.
IIRC, we eventually found _three_ of them.

I sent a model kit and bunch of catalogs to Piotr... um... sorry,
I've lost your last name... anyway, Piotr (sp?) is in Poland. And
there's a lot more like that too...

> Sorry John...
>
> My parts are in Central Michigan.
>
> Jim...

My heart is in San Francisco. I left it there a while back.  :-)

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:52:20 -0500
From: tonwald@eta.k12.mn.us (Tony Waldner)
Subject: Re: found a '78 350cid cutlass

>Wasn't 1977 the last year of availability for the 350 Olds (aside from any 
H/O,
>442
>option)?  I believe I was told this by a service person at my local Olds
>dealership.
>
>--
>Chris Sparks


THAT IS CORRECT SIR!


The '77 Cutlass cars were in such high demand that Olds put 350 Chevy
engines in Delta 88's and saved the 350 Olds for the much more popular
Cutlass. I have only seen one 350 Olds in a 77 Delta in my 20 years of
salvage yard work.  I think that Olds even got in a little legal trouble
for not telling consumers that even though the air cleaner decal said
"Oldsmobile 350" it was in fact a Chevrolet engine.  This led to the
elimination of air cleaner decals in 1978!

Olds ran the 350 in Deltas til 1980.  Toro's got the 350 in '79 and '80 too.

Back to the '78-80 A-bodies (G-body)  I have only seen 350 Chevies in a few
El Camino's and once in a '79 Century wagon.  Otherwise it has been 305's
as top dog engines with the exception of the H/O and 442 cars of this era.
Remember,  this was the fuel shortage era!  V-6's and 260's were the norm
of the day!

Tony

70 442 W-30
70 442 W-30 convert
70 Toro GT W-34
65 Jetstar 88 w/4-speed
84 Hurst Olds
85 Cutlass Salon 455 Drag Racer
92 Seville STS

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:31:40
From: <crl6420@online.no>
Subject: Lightweight fans & hp

Hello,

I was just looking through the Summit parts catalog,
on the flex-a-lite fans. Summit says that you can
"get back up to 17 free hp€s" when switching to
electric fan. someone told me they had tested a
lightweight fan on the dyno, and the engine made 19
horsepower more than with the stock fan. (or what-
ever fan they had) i just think this sounds to good to
be true. but if this is true, it must be the "deal of the
month" at only $14.50...
what do you think ???

Chris RL, Norway
 Cutlass calais -81


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:58:50 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: block thread messed up! Suggestions?

Sorry to hear about your situation. My dad had a water pump put on by a local
Buick shop, and they RTV'd the hell out of the engine to water pump housing 
that
they broke. Dad found out 5 years later - had them replace it free!

Since it looks like a new block, you might want to make one last effort to try
some more JB Weld. Clean the area really, really well. Pick the loose stuff 
out.
Use a couple cans of brake cleaner. Get the area and the surrounding area very
clean. This will give the JB Weld the best chance at adhering to the block.

Glob in as much JB as you can and tape a small piece of wood or cardboard to 
the
block to form the smooth surface. Let it dry double the listed time for a good
cure. You don't want to do this again, so even longer is better. Install the
water pump with bolts hardly tight, just so you can mark the place for the
repaired hole. Tap and put a heli-coil in, or better yet (as someone said), put
a stud in, maybe with a heli-coil for threads.

I hope this or something else works for you. If JB works, maybe your story will
make it on the JB package.
- --
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
          Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
http://www.442.com   OR   http://www.en.com/users/thall
Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
           ftp://arl.arizona.edu/lists/olds

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:02:24 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Long Distance Hauling

If for any reason someone wants a car transported north to south.
Give me a call.  I am going that way when the snow flies.
I have a car hauler, and it will be empty, going down atleast.

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:33:23 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Carb Problems

In a message dated 98-09-17 19:53:58 EDT, you write:

<<  I tried to adjust the idle screws and I just can't get it to idle
correctly.  It sounds like it is too rich and it smells of unburned fuel at
the exhaust. While rebuilding I
 Cleaned the varnish off the primary needles with a scotch brite(r) pad.  I
believe this changed the jet setting to dump too much fuel in my carb. >>

Brandon,
Your metering rods play no part in idle or off-idle fuel flow.
So if your car accellerates fine and runs good at speed, then rods are OK.

For my 2GC the proper idle setting is;
1) turn screws all the way in
2) back both out 4 turns
3) adjust slightly to taste (usually tastes bad)
4) nothing (sorry)

Other info is helpful.
What year carburetor is it?
Does it have integral or divorced choke?
Is the choke operating properly?
Does the motor die at idle?
Did you replace needle & seat?

There is an adjustment for setting the floats for proper level by (shudder)
bending them.
Is this one of the things you did?

To others: is it likely that this is caused by a float allowing fuel level in
bowl to get too high?

SOM
&KA

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:40:24 -0500
From: "Brett Wilson" <bwilson@dmotorworks.com>
Subject: shipping

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Consolidated freight is the company that wanted the $200.
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:46:15 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: car prob?? was Re: Kane County, IL show & swap & car prob??

In a message dated 98-09-17 21:12:54 EDT, you write:

<< Actually, it's the oxygen that causes the flaking, hence, the term
oxydation. >>

What he said, Karl not metallurgist.
(but did know a good one!)

Actually, I do not have the potential tables in front of me to tell you how
zinc(?) might corrode compared to iron. IF pot metal is zinc. Flaking could be
because of oxidation, crystalline properties (prolly not as an alloy most
like), perhaps the oxidation/alteration of one component of alloy, i.e. only
copper out of copper-zinc blend due to some kind of leaching process ....

(boy is karl ever reaching there!)

SOM
&KA

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:49:21 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Wiper motor

Got it yesterday.

Looks Xactly like four I have.

Did you mention no washer pump?

No matter, I got two.

Actually the initial prob was no soft parts avail to replace the rubber
bellows-pump that actually pumped the fluid....

But Thanks Much!!

Karl Aune

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:52:00 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Soylent Ocean Scraaaaaaape.

So I was just about to go to Pep Boys to pick up 2 shocks for the front so I
do do the swap this morning.

And just as I passed a point where I was closer to my home, it happened.

Dropped the muffler.

Really loud too, must be a hole somewhere.

So I scraped home and grabbed the hacksaw.

Of course I will check to see if I can do a short term patch.

This rules out Bloomington for me.
Sorry guys.
I was reeeeeeally hoping it would hold out a little longer.
Guess I am going to dualies sooner than I thought....

SOM
&KA   <---starting the airflow calculations for the exhaust

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 13:48:29 EDT
From: "Matthew A. Cremean" <creme1ma@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Olds list opinion wanted

I think this list has taken us very far. It has sure helped me learn tons of th
ings that I wouldn't have otherwise know. The people on this list have ESPECIAL
LY helped me. I think it's a very unique learning tool, or service.



- ---Matt Cremean
       - working on a horrible e-mail system

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:10:37 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com>
Subject: Re: Wiper motor

>Actually the initial prob was no soft parts avail to replace the rubber
>bellows-pump that actually pumped the fluid....
GM dealers used to keep these on hand for repairs to non-working washer pumps.
Since this design was used up until very recently, they should have the kits
available.  Dealers were the only source at one time, so I don't know of any
other possibilities.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:16:33 EDT
From: SIDIALI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Long Distance Hauling

Hey, this could be something.  I saw an ad for a '60 dynamic88 parts car in
Wisconsin.  Let me have a chance to call the ad placer and see what's up.

Alex Killian
Mobile, Al (on the Gulf Coast)
'60 Dynamic88
'68 Cutlass s Convertible

p.s.  I was junkyard crawling and found my old '65 Cutlass 2-door post coupe:
330-4v, jetaway, console shift with vacuum guage, bucket seats....very much
rougher than when I had it.  Kinda sad, but also '67 98 luxury sedan, with
intact 425 4-v, and seemingly complete, though crazed body.  The '65 is at
Dean Brother's Salvage in Eight-Mile, AL, and the 98 is at Wilmer Garage and
Salvage, in Wilmer, AL.  The Wilmer garage also had a complete '70 cutlass
2-dr hardtop, with some dents in the front clip.  Does anyone else in this
area know of other worthwile vehicles?

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:23:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: hitson@i1.net (roger hitson)
Subject: Re: The Pinging 307

Tom Lentz wrote:

...get a 3/8 " drill &....

Thanks from me too. Almost every time I presume to give advice, I discover I
should've just listened. Hmmmm. Think I'd learn by now........

roger hitson

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:41:24 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 14" wheels with discs?

Chris,

When you say that your disc brake swap required 15" wheels, did you try the
later (70-up) disc brake 14" wheels with the different contour on the rim?
I don't know about the full-size cars, but the A-bodies definitely have 14"
rims which will clear factory discs (but obviously not aftermarket discs
like Baer).  The problem is that up until the late 60s, drum brake cars
received wheels which will not clear the caliper, but disc brake cars used
a 14" wheel with a recontoured rim which provided more clearance on the
backside for the caliper.  Note that this is the case for plain steel
wheels as well as the SSIs.  I would guess that this is the case for the
big cars as well.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:08:03 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Long Distance Hauling

Robert Schinkel wrote:
>
> If for any reason someone wants a car transported north to south.
> Give me a call.  I am going that way when the snow flies.
> I have a car hauler, and it will be empty, going down atleast.

Robert, I would be a bit disappointed if it were empty going back north.
That might be considered a wasted winter.  :)

Which way do you go down and back (major roads)?  What part of Fla do
you wind up in?  Just curious if you travel I-75 or I-65 or some other
route.

Don Sowers
Nicholasville, Ky

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:01:56 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Windshield Antennas

>if I have the antenna in the windshield.
>or just a acase of the same windshield fitting multiple years.
>
>When did this option become available?

I believe it was 1970.......atleast my 70 Cutlas S did.

FWIW, I just had a new windshield, (tinted w/antenna) installed in my 72
H/O.  Cost $159 included tax and they came to my house to install it.

Randy

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:14:20 EDT
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: olds engine in truck?

In a message dated 98-09-18 09:27:03 EDT, you write:

<< I don't know if you could use them, but in the mid '70's when Chevrolet
made
 the Diesel available on the trucks that was the Olds engine.  I had a buddy
 back in high school whose dad had bought a diesel Chevy truck and after the
 engine blew up he put a 350 Olds in it's place.  Motor mounts may work
 better than out of a car anyway.
 You'll need a different transmission though unless you have a dual BOP/Chevy
 bolt pattern transmission.
 Brent Fields >>

Probably answers the "why dual pattern transmission" question eh? I have seen
the later model (81-87) Chev trucks with the Olds diesel too..theres one in
the wrecking yard close to me.  Dorian

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:45:53 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: '69 Antennas

Question for Mike Rothe/Jon Wessel or other 69 H/O experts.  Was the power
antenna available on the H/O?  It seems to me that it would hit the wing.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O (w/manual antenna)
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:50:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Rocket Assistance Needed in Az.

Not on the list; respond to TerrenceN.Telzrow@Energizer.com if you can
assist. If I was a guy in the Flagstaff area I'd volunteer for this duty
in a heartbeat... ;-)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"Telzrow, Terry N" <TerrenceN.Telzrow@Energizer.com>
>
> TO WHOM:
>
> 	MY DAUGHTER, AGE 19, JUST ENROLLED INTO NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY,
> FLAGSTAFF ARIZONA.
> 	SHE DROVE HER CAR, 1980 OLDS CUTLASS V8, (WITH ONLY 38,000 MILES ON
> IT) 2000 MILES FROM CLEVELAND OHIO TO FLAGSTAFF, AZ WITH NO PROBLEMS. THE
> FIRST FEW DAYS SHE CALLED ME AND SAID THE CAR WAS HAVING PROBLEMS GOING UP
> HILLS -- NO POWER. I TOLD HER TO TAKE IT TO THE OLDS DEALER. SHE DID AND
> WAS TOLD HE DIDN'T WANT TO WORK ON IT HE WAS TOO BUSY. SHE TOOK THE CAR TO
> ANOTHER SERVICE LOCATION AT OLDS RECOMMENDATION. THEY CONCLUDED THAT THE
> CATALYTIC CONVERTER WAS PLUGGED (MAKES SENSE). SHE HAD THE CONVERTER
> REPLACED. NEXT DAY THE CAR STOPPED ON THE HIGHWAY. ACCORDING TO HER IT
> JUST "QUIT". AAA CAME OUT AND GOT THE CAR STARTED. SHE TOOK THE CAR BACK
> TO THE GARAGE AND NOW THEY ARE TELLING HER IT NEED A NEW CARBURETOR -
> ESTIMATE $500.00.
> 	IS THERE ANYONE IN THAT AREA WHO COULD CONFIRM THIS DIAGNOSIS?  I AM
> 2000 MILES AWAY. WHAT IS THE ADVICE FROM MY OLDS COLLEAGUES??
>
> 							TERRY TELZROW
> 	
> terryn.telzrow@energizer.com
>
> 	p.s. My daughter's name is:
>
> 		Gretchen Telzrow
> 		520-523-7518
>
> 	Service garage:  Hurst Firestone, Flagfstaff Arizona
>
>

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:53:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Door Interchange?

I thought Mike was on the list, but this bounced, so respond directly to
Michael_Baugher/MO/americancentury@americancentury.com if you know the
answer.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	<Michael_Baugher/MO/americancentury@americancentury.com>
Subject: Door differences

Could someone let me know if there's a difference between the hardtop and
convertible doors in 69?  I'm trying to locate one for a conv. and want to
get the right door.

Thanks very much.

Mike Baugher
69 Cutlass S conv

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:54:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: engine covers

On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, George wrote:
> looking thru my shop manual I saw that the 68 350 had some kind of covers
> over the openings on top of the block in between the lifters, right over
> the cam. They look like tin covers and my block shows threads in the
> location where those covers are supposed to go.
>
> What are these covers good for? Do I need them? (The engine did not have
> them when I took it apart) If I need them, where can I get them??

My  '68 had these too... some kind of oil baffle. If you use the turkey
tray intake manifold they won't be needed (and the gasket won't fit). I
wouldn't worry about it.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:53:28 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Mallory Dual Point Problem in 69 CS

Ken,

I'm not totally sure about the dwell spec, but I suspect that it is
probably the usual 30 degrees of a normal V8.  The trick, however, is that
with a dual point distributor you must set the dwell on each set of points
_individually_.  The way you do this is to put a piece of cardboard between
the contacts of one set of points, then set the others to 30 degrees.  Swap
the cardboard to the other set and repeat.  That's right, 30 degrees dwell
on each set of points when checked individually.  Note that if the number
turns out to be something other than 30, the procedure is still the same.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:57:06 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Rocket Assistance Needed in Az.

In a message dated 98-09-18 15:51:55 EDT, you write:

<< FIRST FEW DAYS SHE CALLED ME AND SAID THE CAR WAS HAVING PROBLEMS GOING UP
 > HILLS -- NO POWER >>

mmm..sounds like a vacuum leak to me. I'd check all the hose lines first.
Bruce

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:55:58 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Buying/shipping cars long distance

I ran into the same problem
with giving the shipping company the check.  They then have the $ and the
car!
___________

Yes, I've thought about that, however they have a check or money order made
out to the seller, and a car with a title made out to you, so...

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:01:15 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Windshield Antennas

I have been pricing a new windshield for my '69 and everyplace I phone asks
if I have the antenna in the windshield.  I have the rear mounted electric
but was windering if the windshield mounted was really an option that year
or just a acase of the same windshield fitting multiple years.

When did this option become available?


Lloyd Ferguson
________________

1970 was the first year for the windshield antenna, but you are correct,
the same windshield will fit the 68-69 cars as well.  I actually converted
my first 68 442 to a windshield antenna to clean up the outside of the car.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:08:59 EDT
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: Re: Windshield Antennas

do they make windshield antennas for say a 67 cutlass convertible?????
Just curious

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:14:10 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Door Interchange?

Could someone let me know if there's a difference between the hardtop and
convertible doors in 69?  I'm trying to locate one for a conv. and want to
get the right door.
___________

Conv and Holiday coupe (2 door HT) used the same doors, however there is
one difference.  You will need to transfer the wedge plate from the
convertible door the the hardtop door.  This is the small plate on the
inside back edge of the door (above the door latch) which wedges against a
similar part on the door jamb when the door is closed to help combat
sagging of the body.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:18:52 EDT
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: 1971 442 4Sale and Parting 69

1971 442 hardtop
455/TH-400
buckets
consle
disc brakes
posi
no A/C
car is blue with white interior. very solid body. would need minor body work
for it to be mint. 58,000 original miles. motor is not running. its been
garaged last 10 years.
will not part out.
$3500

Parting out a 1969 cutlass. many good usable parts. un-original 4-speed car.
inquire if you need parts, ill let you know.

located in cleveland ohio, email me privately if interested. TheBlue
67@Aol.Com

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:18:47 EDT
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: Parts 4 Sale

1970 Ram Air hood. Excellent condition. one small stress crack that would be
very easy to fix. $650
OAI Air cleaner. Repro never been used. $350

If you buy both........ill give ya the hood and cleaner for $800. NO SHIPPING
ON THE HOOD

1" fenillic spacer plate. for a 4bbl Q-Jet. never been used. $40

Parts:
1964-67
65 cutlass hood $100
65 cutlass trunklid $100
65 cutlass convertible 6 piece stainless steel trim set. $250
64-65 power trunk release. complete $150
64-65 consle mounted tach $100
64-67 convertible visors w/ mirrors $make offer

1968-69
set of 5 SSll trim rings. real nice $75
consle. o.k.  $50 obo
69 TILT floor shift column $150
carpet, lite saddle, brand new $100
carpet, dark saddle, 2 months old $75

1970
cutlass bumper, ready to bolt on. good chrome $125
442 bumper in primer $125
consle $125
Tilt column $150
decklid $75
Fenders......inquire about price
carpet, lite saddle, brand new $100
carpet, dark saddle, 2 months old $75

1971-72
consle $125
Tilt column $150
front bumper. nice chrome $75
decklid $75
sport mirror, driver remote $40
72 rear lenses $15 a pair
carpet, lite saddle, brand new $100
carpet, dark saddle, 2 months old $75

no prices include shipping. depends on the item you are buying wether or not
you will have to pay shipping. Located in the Cleveland Ohio area. E-mail me
privately if you have any questions on anything. TheBlue67@Aol.com

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible (in the body shop)

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:17:59 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Restoration parts.

Wasn't there some talk recently either in the JWO or Thunder and
Lightning about the possibility of the return of some obsolete parts
such as the Lightning Rods/top plate, etc. as restoration parts by GM?
What ever happened with that?

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:15:56 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Windshield Antennas

do they make windshield antennas for say a 67 cutlass convertible?????
Just curious

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible
__________

Not that I'm aware of.  Just the 68-72 cars.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:25:30 EDT
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: T3'S

Anyone know if new T3 headlights are still available?
Ron Haun (rghaun@aol.com)
71 442 W30 Convert.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:34:22 -0400
From: Ray Moriarty <rmoriarty@blairinc.com>
Subject: Re: Buying/shipping cars long distance

One of the cars I purchased long distance was transacted Mexican-Standoff
style via FedEx. The owner sent the title out by FedEx and called me with
the tracking number. At that point I sent him a certified check and gave
him that tracking number. This all took place weeks before the car was
moved, so I actually owned (and insured) the car for the transport.

Ray


At 10:25 AM 9/17/98 -0400, Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:
>I'm looking for a little advice from anyone who's done this.  Specifically,
>if I'm using a transport company to deliver the car, how have people
>handled the cash transaction with the seller?  Do you give a certified
>check to the transport company, who in turn hands it to the seller when the
>car is picked up?  Any experiences on the list?

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:33:05 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: '69 Antennas

> Question for Mike Rothe/Jon Wessel or other 69 H/O experts.  Was the power
> antenna available on the H/O?  It seems to me that it would hit the wing.

VERY good question!  Never thought about that one before, because I've
never seen one WITH a power antenna.  Best guess, I would say that it
couldn't be had with the W-46 option, although just about any other
convenience option could have been ordered.  Unless you drilled a hole
in the end of the wing.....hmmm...

This will require some research to be sure....but like Joe mentioned,
the wing would be a limiting factor.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:39:40 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@lilly.com>
Subject: Re: olds engine in truck?

>Probably answers the "why dual pattern transmission" question eh? I have seen
>the later model (81-87) Chev trucks with the Olds diesel too..
Part of the answer, but not all.  I had a 79 GMC with an Olds 350 that was a
former diesel truck.  The TH400 was the BOP pattern only and it was the
original tranny with a short tail shaft and a bolted on rear slip yoke.  The
short front half of the dive shaft was fixed and the rear half had a slip
yoke.  That may explain the holes in the end of some of the slip yokes in
other vehicles, truck use as well as passenger cars.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:11:59 EDT
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: JWO?

OK I know that I'm going to get blasted for this but what is JWO? Thanks Chris

Chris Sommerville
69 442SC
70 442HC
70 W31
AND LOTS OF PARTS!!!!!!

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:19:46 PDT
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: JWO?

Chris,

JWO is Journey With Olds, the newletter (more like magazine really) of
the Oldsmobile Club of America (www.oldsclub.org). It's definately worth
getting if just for the classifieds. There are a lot of cars and parts
that are advertised there only. I got my '68 H/O through an ad in JWO.


Brent Pinkstaff
'70 Cutlass S (Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass poo)



>OK I know that I'm going to get blasted for this but what is JWO?
Thanks Chris
>
>Chris Sommerville
>69 442SC
>70 442HC
>70 W31
>AND LOTS OF PARTS!!!!!!
>



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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:20:31 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: JWO?

> OK I know that I'm going to get blasted for this but what is JWO?

Journey With Olds, a publication for the Olds club of America.  Free
with membership to OCA.  Get yours, join now!!!

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:30:36 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Restoration parts.

In a message dated 9/18/98 3:22:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
hurstolds@xtalwind.net writes:

<< Wasn't there some talk recently either in the JWO or Thunder and
 Lightning about the possibility of the return of some obsolete parts
 such as the Lightning Rods/top plate, etc. as restoration parts by GM?
 What ever happened with that? >>

Yeah, there was. Seems like the guy worked for GM... but haven't heard any
more about it.

Jon

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:39:41 PDT
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Cutlass Poo at Centennial Cruise(MD)

Greetings Boys and Girls (Ladies and Gents and all that),

For all of you who missed the chance to see Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass Poo
in person at the CCR Fall Show last Sunday, I have good news for you!
Don't despair, all is not lost!!

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2nd Annual Cruise Night tomorrow (Saturday) in the lovely state of
Maryland!

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For more info on the Centennial Cruise see www.oldsclub.org, call Brad
Nicholson at (410) 256-0381 or email: brad442@erols.com.



Brent Pinkstaff
'70 Cutlass S (Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass poo)


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:54:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: re: virus stuff

Since the guy who originally posted the virus warning has had his head
chewed off... I'd just like to point out that sometimes not all of these
are hoaxes.  I used to work for Prodigy Internet... and remember many a
time getting instructions on identifying and removing very simialar REAL
viruses to aid in technical support.  Many of these reports read at least
partly just like the "hoax" virus warnings that I've seen again and again
ad nauseum...  Normally certain email packages are more suseptable then
others... be wary of _unknown_ attachements if using anything from MS, or
Netscape mail or Pegasus.  Just thought I'd mention...


    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton (I use PINE email hah hah hah) Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |
 |  |  |
 | / \ |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 |/   \|
  \   /      1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
   \ /          (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
    |           http://www.442.com/pierce.html
	     1980 Rover 3500 SD1
		(215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:17:08 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: T3'S

Year One has started selling repro's.  They are located just outside
Atlanta.  No one needs to be located INSIDE Atlanta.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: RGHaun@aol.com <RGHaun@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 4:27 PM
Subject: T3'S


>Anyone know if new T3 headlights are still available?
>Ron Haun (rghaun@aol.com)
>71 442 W30 Convert.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:25:16 EDT
From: KASOLDS@aol.com
Subject: HELP tranny jumps between 2nd and 3rd

Well, I finally got my TH350 swapped to a TH400.  The tranny works well and
doesn't slip or anything.  However when I drive at average city speeds 30-40
the tranny seems to jump back and forth between 2nd gear and 3rd gear.  I can
accelerate from a stop and it will shift through all 3 gears just fine.  Then
once a reach driving speed I let of the gas.  This is when it seems to go back
into 2nd gear.  If I get back on the gas it will stay in 2nd for a few seconds
and then shift up to 3rd again.  I know my problem is not the electric
kickdown, because I unhooked and it still did the same thing.  Is this a
vacuum problem?  Is this bad for the tranny?  Has anyone had this problem?
HELP PLEASE

Thanks
Keith

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:39:24 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: engine covers

My 330 had the same cover...Im not really sure what it was for...maybe to aid
in keeping hot oil off the bottom of the intake?????Anyones guess...I had to
ditch it when I installed a performer RPM intake, as it wouldn't fit with the
intake gaskets(403 T/A). I wouldn't lose sleep over not having one...but that
is just my opinion. Collyn

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:38:32 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: still overheating

Ray, The 67 442 cooling system is like new, changed water pump once, not so
for the 75. Call it Daddy's Olds but it was Moms. She hardly drove it,
cooling system was a mess, full of rust, and particulate matter. Replaced
pump, new radiator, hoses, flushed block with cleaner. OK now but was a
real pain in the butt. I guess it was due to lack of being driven. Beats me
how a 67 could be so much cleaner then a 75.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:42:36 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: T3'S

I know that they are for sale...Year One has 'em...I have all four that were
originally installed on my 65...they are now in the boxes that my Sylvania
Halogens came in...LOL they are great for shows...but they sure do suck as far
as saftey!

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