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oldsmobile-digest      Saturday, August 8 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1414



78 cutlass wiring question..
Re: humor (non olds) / question / olds in mov
need 403 advice, need more HP
Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!
Olds screen saver
Quadrajet
Re: Olds screen saver
Re: Toro Wonderbar Radio
Olds News
Re: need 403 advice, need more HP
Re: need 403 advice, need more HP
Re: need 403 advice, need more HP
Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!
Fwd: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
Re: need 403 advice, need more HP
Re: DMR/JM Olds Nats - Who is Going Where?
Re: 69 OAI
Trust me, I am insane! was I've got to be crazy
Re: Looking for Decals - More info
86 87 Olds interior swap
Re: Looking for Decals - More info
Re: 78 cutlass wiring question.. (revised)
115 Octane Gas & Opinions
Separating out the Olds from the chaff :was the ( ! ) thing
That goregeous Texas gal....
To Greg;  Re: Miscellaneous....
ATTN: SE Mich+ NW Ohio Oldsers (maybe Indiana)
115 Octane Gas - Ethanol Questions
Finale: Looking for Decals
Karl guity here.
Im nuts...
Re:  Olds News
Re: Olds News
re: 115 octane gas - expensive
Re: Im nuts...
Re: Olds screen saver
Av Gas (Was Re: 115 octane gas - expensive)
Re: Who's married to whom
Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!
Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 15:03:46 -0400
From: Ken <olds442@en.com>
Subject: 78 cutlass wiring question..

I'm putting a 455 in a 78 cutlass.  The last motor that was in it was a
350 chevy.  The wiring is a nightmare.  Heres what I have..



lt. grey) hot with key in start and run positions
black) hot when key in start position
1red) hot always
2red) hot always


light grey would be to + side of coil
black would be to s terminal on starter
what are 1red and 2red for? back and side of alternator?

Thanks, Ken

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 15:04:49 EDT
From: <VRHMGH@aol.com>
Subject: Re: humor (non olds) / question / olds in mov

In a message dated 98-08-07 22:15:36 EDT, plh@nbn.net writes:

<< Subj:	 Re: humor (non olds) / question / olds in mov
 Date:	98-08-07 22:15:36 EDT
 From:	plh@nbn.net (Paul Hartlieb)
 Reply-to:	plh@nbn.net
 To:	VRHMGH@aol.com, oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

 MFATZII@aol.com wrote:
 >
 > This month's Playboy issue had some cool internet stuff I hadn't seen
 > before.....thought I'd pass it long...
 >
 > (_!_)        regular @ss
 > (__!__)     fat @ss
 > (!)            tight @ss
 > (_._)        flat @ss
 > (_^_)        bubble @ss
 > (_*_)        sore @ss
 > (_o_)        @ss that's been around
 > (_x_)        kiss my @ss
 > (_$_)        money out the @ss
 > (_?_)         dumb @ss
 >
 > and my favorite   (_E=mc2_)     smart @ss

  >Thought you'd get a charge out of this.
  < Yeah, those asses are pretty funny.

   > How's the new floor mats look
 in your car?
   < I'm ashamed to say that I didn't even try them out  in the car yet. I
looked for them for about 5 years, and it will probably 8 years before I get
them in the car.
   Like they are really hard to install, Ain't??

                                                        Vaughn

 Paul
 --
 Paul Hartlieb
 Myerstown, PA
 mailto:plh@nbn.net


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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 15:45:29 EDT
From: <Bb79ta@aol.com>
Subject: need 403 advice, need more HP

 Dear Motor Heads,
I have a 79 TA with a 403 / 185 hp. Heads have non adjustable rockers. I want
to work the motor to bring HP to 300 or better and still be able to get this
thing back under the original hood.  Any Suggestions??

PS  My true love is my 64 Cutlass Holiday Coupe (stock HP is 290, Go figure)
Is there any Olds events coming up in the jersey/phila area??
Thanks , Bill from South Jersey

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 15:49:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Casteel <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!

Consider checking e-mail a little more often in the future...

At 10:36 PM 8/3/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I have nearly 10,000 messages,
>How do I erase them?

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 12:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: JM <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Olds screen saver

- --Hello everyone,

          Had a crash yesterday, lost everything:(
 Can someone send me the address where I can get the screen saver that
was going around the list awhile back. Thanks,
             John




==
mailto:super442@yahoo.com           ICQ # 15391466
1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307 H.O./3.73--http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
1984 Cutlass-Moonroof--307 http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/PatsCar.html
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!



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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 16:05:20 -0400
From: Steve Ochs <Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com>
Subject: Quadrajet

Message text written by Kevin
> Perhaps I need to play with the M/C solenoid
adjustments, but then the part throttle duty cycle is already close to
70%.  Anyone have any ideas?
<

The M/C solenoid stop adjustment (the little screw and stop that limits M/C
solenoid travel) needs to be adjusted at 3000 RPM or slightly higher.  This
way you get into the main metering circuit.  With the small plug out of the
top of the air horn, you can get to the screw with very small needlenose
pliers or the proper (female slot) tool.  Adjust for approx. 50% M/C duty
cycle.

After adjusting the M/C solenoid limit stop at 3000 RPM, adjust the idle
air bleed adjustement at idle in drive as this is affected by the stop
adjustment. (This is in the small part that sticks up in right behind the
primaries under a stamped anti-tamper cover and rivets. Adjust for 55% duty
cycle.

Recheck the previous adjustment as they do interact with each other.

I successfully adjusted the Quadrajet on my 442 without touching the idle
mixture screws (didn't want cut base to get to them).

Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma, Ohio
Transmission Division (4T60/65-E & 4L60-E) - Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com
The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division

'96 DCM Impala SS (Naisso #1365)  '87 Olds Cutlass 442 (OCA #028505)

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:03:16 EDT
From: <Cnvrt67@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Olds screen saver

i would like the address too please.
Thanks

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible
http://members.aol.com/Cnvrt67/index.html

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 17:21:21 -0400
From: Jeffrey lane <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: Re: Toro Wonderbar Radio

Ooops...  oh well...  Anyone know where I CAN find a Toronado am/fm???

Paul Hartlieb wrote:
>
> Don't thank me yet, that's NOT a Toronado radio.  My mistake, I was
> seeing words that weren't there.  This radio WILL NOT fit your Toro.
> Sorry for the confusion,


- --
><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>

Jeffrey Lane, EMT-ST	ICQ#12362327

http://www.roava.net/~bladernr
bladernr@roava.net 	EMTBoy9@aol.com

Sr. Sergeant, Equipment Officer
Fort Lewis Rescue Squad, Inc.
Salem, VA

"Knowledge is power.  But power corrupts, and
corruption is a sin, so if you seek knowledge,
you will burn in hell. . ."

- ------------------Carpe Noctum------------------

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Pajak <jspajak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Olds News

     Hey folks, help out a non-list member. My friend just came over
to show me his new creation....1981 Delta 88 4 door with 73 455
transplant! (was a diesel!) One problem though:
     He has water leakage into the passenger floorboard. The glass
shop has verified the windshield is sealing correctly.
I remember someone else (Greg B?) had this problem before and the fix
was in the heater/AC box area but I forgot the specifics.
     One more question: which rearend was installed in these bodies?
What is the ring gear size?
     In other Olds news, another friend is supposed to bring his 'new'
car over today...a one owner 87 442! Supposedly clean and garage kept
with 47K miles, $5500 sounds like a deal!

==
"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2"

John Pajak
Lexington Park, Maryland

Check out our Oldsmobiles and more at
http://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak
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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:24:34 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: need 403 advice, need more HP

In a message dated 8/8/98 12:47:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Bb79ta@aol.com
writes:

<< I have a 79 TA with a 403 / 185 hp. Heads have non adjustable rockers. I
want
 to work the motor to bring HP to 300 or better and still be able to get this
 thing back under the original hood.  Any Suggestions?? >>


   The way HP was measured changed in 1972. The 403 puts out roughly 275 stock
measured the old way.(Can't remember if I figured that with dual Exhaust or
not) A better cam should put you easily over 300 hp, although torque is the
name of the game with these motors. Dorian

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:24:14 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: need 403 advice, need more HP

At 03:45 PM 8/8/98 -0400, you wrote:
> Dear Motor Heads,
>I have a 79 TA with a 403 / 185 hp. Heads have non adjustable rockers. I want
>to work the motor to bring HP to 300 or better and still be able to get this
>thing back under the original hood.  Any Suggestions??
>

get some pre '73  350 heads for it. 403's have HUGE combustion chambers

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:29:31 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: need 403 advice, need more HP

>   The way HP was measured changed in 1972. The 403 puts out roughly 275
stock
>measured the old way.(Can't remember if I figured that with dual Exhaust or
>not) A better cam should put you easily over 300 hp, although torque is the
>name of the game with these motors. Dorian
>

how was it figured before?
Ididn't know there were different ways.

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:33:43 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!

Find, on your toolbar, the edit command. Click this and then find
"select all". Click that and after all your messages are highlighted,
go to the ever wonder working "delete". You problems will be
solved..!!!

Mike..........   (e=mc2)


____________________________________________

> Consider checking e-mail a little more often in the future...
>
> At 10:36 PM 8/3/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >I have nearly 10,000 messages,
> >How do I erase them?
>
>
>

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> Doris M Kozlarek
> 07/24/98 08:16 AM
>
> To:   Margaret A Albanese/USAFL/BDX
> cc:
> Subject:  FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
>
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Doris M Kozlarek/USAFL/BDX on 07/24/98
> 08:17 AM ---------------------------
>
>
> Michele L Bartolomeo
> 07/23/98 12:03 PM
>
> To:   Shrita Smith/USAFL/BDX, Leslie Magee/USAFL/BDX, Anette
>       Jiosi/USAFL/BDX, Carol Williams-Pride/USAFL/BDX, Cindy
>       Ezzo/USAFL/BDX, Ana M Cantore/USAFL/BDX, Eder Romero/USAFL/BDX,
> Doris
>       M Kozlarek/USAFL/BDX, Magda Motichka/USAFL/BDX, Betty A
>       Anderson/USAFL/BDX, Sharon Textor/USAFL/BDX
> cc:
> Subject:  FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
>
> well let's see what happens-------------------- Forwarded by Michele L
> Bartolomeo/USAFL/BDX on 07/23/98 12:03 PM ---------------------------
>
>
> Jennifer Welsch
> 07/23/98 11:45 AM
>
> To:   Rose L Fejes/USAFL/BDX, Tracy Arra/USAFL/BDX, Michele L
>       Bartolomeo/USAFL/BDX
> cc:   Sherri-Lynn Wexler/USAFL/BDX, Brian Roper/USAFL/BDX, Peter
>       Kaser/USAFL/BDX
> Subject:  FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
>
> Who knows. It could happen. All you need is an e-mail and a dream.
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Jennifer Welsch/USAFL/BDX on 07/23/98
> 11:45 AM ---------------------------
>
>
> Danielle Loiero
> 07/23/98 11:36 AM
>
> To:   Hetty L Van Marwyk/USAFL/BDX, Michele Milkiewicz/USAFL/BDX, Marjorie
>       A Vankat/USAFL/BDX, Tony Montano/USAFL/BDX, Jennifer
>       Welsch/USAFL/BDX, Dawn.Carlsen @ unilever.com at
>       ~bdusafl_smtp01@flksccmta
> cc:
> Subject:  FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
>
> This is cute!
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Danielle Loiero/USAFL/BDX on 07/23/98
> 11:33 AM ---------------------------
>
>
> Christopher Brown
> 07/23/98 11:30 AM
>
> To:   Edward Jozak/USAFL/BDX, Anthony P Troia/USAFL/BDX, Susan
>       Bonin/USAFL/BDX, Paula Kasbo/USAFL/BDX, Mary Barry/USAFL/BDX, Karen
> K
>       Garceau/USAFL/BDX, Leslie A Wenke/USAFL/BDX, Danielle
>       Loiero/USAFL/BDX, NJD03 @ iaw0.attnet.or.jp at ~bdusafl_smtp01 @
>       flksccmta, CBrown8080 @ aol.com at ~bdusafl_smtp01 @ flksccmta,
>       Dawn_Brown @ usccmail.lehman.com at ~bdusafl_smtp01 @ flksccmta,
>       KDaly @ TIFFANY.COM at ~bdusafl_smtp01 @ flksccmta, THale @
> Amica.COM
>       at ~bdusafl_smtp01 @ flksccmta, SKopec @ TIFFANY.COM at
>       ~bdusafl_smtp01 @ flksccmta, freakylady @ aol.com at ~bdusafl_smtp01
>       @ flksccmta, Ben_Ribaudo @ Dell.Com at ~bdusafl_smtp01 @ flksccmta,
>       JSantumo @ Amica.COM at ~bdusafl_smtp01 @ flksccmta
> cc:
> Subject:  FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
>
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Christopher Brown/USAFL/BDX on
> 07/23/98
> 11:30 AM ---------------------------
>
> From: "Costa; Katya" <costak2 @ toysrus.com> AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01 on
> 07/23/98
>       11:23 AM
>
> To:   Christopher Brown/USAFL/BDX, "'Adriano#2'" <adriano98 @ yahoo.com>
> AT
>       ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, Brian <brw6 @ cornell.edu> AT
>       ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, Bugsie2
>  <Bugsie2 @ aol.com> AT
>       ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, "'Caracois'" <mariza_c @ hotmail.com> AT
>       ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, E-R-I-C_A
>  <njbrownys @ aol.com> AT
>       ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, "Fernando@home" <teixeira @ inreach.com>
>       AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, Ivanna a la Trump <IVANNAC @ aol.com>
>       AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, Karlita <Karla.Amory @ firstunion.com>
>       AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, "Kasinathan; Rathiga" <kasinatr @
>       toysrus.com> AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, Manny
>  <DONOSOGLOBAL @
>       classic.msn.com> AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, "'Rhonda'" <zandsrh @
>       imsint.com> AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta, Violeta
>  <vorellano @
>       tiffany.com> AT ~BDUSAFL_SMTP01@flksccmta
> cc:
> Subject:  FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
>
>
>
>
>
> Katya
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Tomporowski, Richard
> Sent:   Tuesday, July 21, 1998 11:22 AM
> To:     Harris, Allen; Valentino Davis, Michele; Costa, Katya; Rokosz,
> Kristen; DiVenuto, Donna; Hamilton, Diccon; Lowenthal, Julie; Prince,
> Gerard; 'Pignata,Gary'; 'Trivisonno, Christine'
> Subject:        FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
>
> Just in case.  I know I could use $1000.
> Rich
> x4132
>
>
> , July 20, 1998 9:12 AM
> >
> Zavaski (E-mail); Ilyse
> Rossman
> > (E-mail); John Meuse (E-mail); John Theo (E-mail); Kim Petrie
> (E-mail);
> > Kristin Foster (E-mail); Linda Cortese (E-mail); Lisa Robb (E-mail);
> Lynda
> > McKeown (E-mail); Patti Roselli (E-mail); Robert Boyd (E-mail); Steve >
> Teixeria (E-mail); Susan Pacana (E-mail); Tom Hagen (E-mail); Tricia
> Reid
> > (E-mail); Wally Brixner (E-mail); William Gallagher (E-mail)
> > Subject:      FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> >
> >  Hi All,
> >
> > It can't hurt to try...  But read the bottom.  Don't re-send it to
> someone
> > who has already received it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Susan_Regan@gillette.com [SMTP:Susan_Regan@gillette.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 3:42 PM
> > To:   pconstan@usm.maine.edu; christine.m.lindsay@Lahey.Hitchcock.ORG; >
> Patti_Taylor@gillette.com; andyMBF@aol.com; tcashman@winterwyman.com;
> > Diane_Pelski@gillette.com
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> >
> >
> > Even though I don't really believe it-it can't hurt....
> > ______________________________ Forward Header
> > __________________________________
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > Author:       Eric Ziedins at US-BOSTON-GBO01-F
> > Date: 07/15/98 9:14 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought that you could all use the money!
> >
> > ______________________________ Forward Header
> > __________________________________
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > Author:       Chuck Stever at US-BOSTON-GBO40-F
> > Date: 7/14/98 1:52 PM
> >
> >
> > I have nothing better to do so............
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Woodward, Bruce
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 11:41 AM
> > To:   Anderson, Rich; Beaulac, Tad; Bianchi, Dale; Brand, Rob;
> Cummings,
> >       Ric; Dinnie, Mark; King, Lynda; Kingsbury, Bill; Stephenson,
> John;
> > Bussiere,
> >       Chris
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jimenez, Maureen
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 9:38 AM
> > To:   Melchione, Lisa; Godin, Michael; Woodward, Bruce; Dufresne, Pat;
>
> >       Grenier, Maggie; 'Beth Clark'; 'rtrauschke'; 'Lynette Hamilton';
> 'Dave
> >       White'; 'Steve Bro.'
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> >
> > I thought you guys might enjoy an extra $1,000.00 if this happens to
> be
> > true!  -Maureen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sargent, Gina
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 1998 10:22 AM
> > To:   Golebiowski, Steven; Grendell, Les; Jimenez, Maureen; Jacobson,
> >       Carol; Kincaid, Steve; Leehy, Rod; McDonald, Ann; Murphy, Alana;
> Rogers,
>
> >       Kip; Godin, Michael; Fritschy, Mike
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gloria_Patwari@gillette.com <mailto:Gloria_Patwari@gillette.com>
>
> > [SMTP:Gloria_Patwari@gillette.com]
> >       <mailto:[SMTP:Gloria_Patwari@gillette.com]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 1998 9:38 AM
> > To:   beck@adeptinc.com; <mailto:beck@adeptinc.com;>
> > breen/cm@erieplastics.com; <mailto:breen/cm@erieplastics.com;>
> > g.lewis@dsmtpena.com; <mailto:g.lewis@dsmtpena.com;>
> > gina.sargent@nypro.com;
> >       <mailto:gina.sargent@nypro.com;>
> michelle_l_moran_at_blclimt1@Bausch.com;
> >       <mailto:michelle_l_moran_at_blclimt1@Bausch.com;>
> ppatwari@mehtacorp.com;
> >
> >       <mailto:ppatwari@mehtacorp.com;>  rha089@aol.com;
> <mailto:rha089@aol.com;>
> >
> > sppatwari@worldnet.att.net; <mailto:sppatwari@worldnet.att.net;>
> > ipl@shakespeare-mono.com <mailto:ipl@shakespeare-mono.com>
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> >
> > I talked to my corporate MIS person and I guess this is not a joke it
> is
> > the real thing.  I thought I would get you people in on the news going
>
> > around.  Please read on there is a message from Bill Gates that
> explains
> > what this is all about.
> >
> > I wish us all luck.
> > Joe Gasco
> > Quality Assurance Supervisor
> > email address gascojm@precisetech.com <mailto:gascojm@precisetech.com>
>
> > Telephone 15088291012
> > Fax 15088291088
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Wilson, Marcelle B.
> > > Sent:       Wednesday, July 08, 1998 2:38 PM
> > > To: McCroskie Jera (E-mail); Patricia Baldwin (E-mail); Patti > >
> Baldwin (E-mail); Turner, Gail F.; Lewis, Jeffrey R.; Buchanan,
> Robert
> > > R.; Baird, Doris K.; Watson, Tonya L.; Gasco, Joe M.; Akers, Ronald R.
> > > Subject:    FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Miller, Mary C.
> > > Sent:       Wednesday, July 08, 1998 1:12 PM
> > > To: Deana Shah (E-mail); Eft, Laura E.; Greg Martell (E-mail);
> > > Crowley, Vickie E.; Freeman, Diana L.; Herberger, Anita F.;
> > > 'JMackey3@aol.com'; Wilson, Marcelle B.; Elmore, John R.;
> > > 'jruud1@aol.com'
> > > Subject:    FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Carr, Kathy L.
> > > Sent:       Wednesday, July 08, 1998 12:50 PM
> > > To: Michael McGrath (E-mail); Jon Noce (E-mail); Keith Starks > >
> (E-mail); Dave Kinsella (E-mail); Campbell, Lisa M.; Hamilton, > >
> Christine M.; Hamric, Judy R.; Jackson, Cindy J.; Joyce, Elyse K.; > >
> Miller, Mary C.; Quealy, Leslie C.; Rudis, Tom C.; Swift, Tina M.
> > > Subject:    FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kathy Carr
> > > Customer Service
> > >
> > > PRECISE TECHNOLOGY INC
> > > 501 Mosside Blvd
> > > N Versailles    PA    15137
> > > PH:        412/823-2100 X 3184
> > > DID:      412/829-4118
> > > Fax:        412/823-4110
> > > E-Mail:  carrkl@precisetech.com <mailto:carrkl@precisetech.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Murdy, Christine E.
> > > Sent:       Wednesday, July 08, 1998 1:43 PM
> > > To: Allen, Michael B.; Baluch, Carrie L.; Carr, Kathy L.; Cosalter, >
> >
> Ronald W.; Deffenbaugh, Darlene B.; Dimieri, William L.; Engler, > >
> Elizabeth; Fisher, Chasity L.; Granny, Barbara J.; Judy, Darren W.; > >
> Rugare, John A.; Swift, Tina M.; Tabler, Cassandra W.; Thompson, > >
> Kimberly J.; 'plasticsales@mindspring.com'; 'doug.caro@attws.com';
> > > 'Fcannataro@Eichleay.com'; 'kovack@GKBAUM.com'
> > > Subject:    FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Conrad, Eric O.
> > > Sent:       Tuesday, July 07, 1998 5:08 PM
> > > To: Bachy, William P.; Moose, Michael A.; Amin, Jignesh; Minahan, > >
> Sara E.; Galdo, William F.; Hamric, Judy R.; Santavy, JoAnn E.;
> Myers,
> > > Terri L.; Murdy, Christine E.; Kinsey, Diane E.
> > > Subject:    FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Conrad, Shannon
> [SMTP:conras@UF9567P01.PittsburghPA.NCR.COM]
> >       <mailto:[SMTP:conras@UF9567P01.PittsburghPA.NCR.COM]>
> > > <mailto:[SMTP:conras@UF9567P01.PittsburghPA.NCR.COM]
> > <mailto:[SMTP:conras@UF9567P01.PittsburghPA.NCR.COM]> >
> > > Sent:       Tuesday, July 07, 1998 4:58 PM
> > > To: Alicia A. Knoll; Conrad, Eric O.; Crowley, Shawn; 'Daddy';
> > > Daugherty, Jason P; debra.conrad@pncbank.com;
> > <mailto:debra.conrad@pncbank.com;>  Fair, Julie
> > > Allento; Dunaway, Ken           Houston; Grant Naylor; Gray, David;
> > > Hayes, Manthie; Logan, Grady; Lori Ann Miller; Mrc647@aol.com;
> > <mailto:Mrc647@aol.com;>  Nancy
> > > Prough; Trconrad97; Vic Conrad/AG079/MONY; Virgili, Sofia
> > > Detroit
> > > Subject:    FW: FW: Microsoft message & $1000.00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > * > > > > > To:Melissa Brown
> > * > > > > > Subject:Gift from Bill Gates
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi there; this appears to be a real offer, so I'm doing my part!
>
> > > > >
> > > > > If you read below you will see the note from Bill Gates & > > > >
> Management at Microsoft.
> > > > > Basically if this messages reaches 1,000 people, everyone will
> > > receive
> > > > > $1000.00 + a windows 98 package.
> > > > >
> > > > >                See the note below - its worth it!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > >Everyone is to resend to 10 individuals.
> > > > > Please read and forward to as many friends as possible...I've
> > > checked
> > > > > this
> > > > > out and it's
> > > > > not a BS chain letter or something...Microsoft  is giving away
> > > Win98 &
> > > > > $$$
> > > > > if this reaches 1,000 people...duplicate entries don't count,
> > > > > though...So,
> > > > > please help & pass on...thanx here you  go!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >                                              BILL GATES  MESSAGE
>
> > > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > > And thank you for signing up for my Beta Email Tracking
> > > > > Application or (BETA) for short. My name is Bill Gates.  Here at
>
> > > > > Microsoft we have just compiled an e-mail tracing program that
> > > tracks
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > to  whom this message is forwarded to. It does this through an
> > > unique IP
> > > > > (Internet Protocol) address log book database. We are
> > > experimenting with
> > > > > this  and need your help.  Forward this to everyone you know and
>
> > > if it
> > > > > reaches 1000 people, everyone on the list will receive $1000 and
> a
> > > copy
> > > > >  of Windows98 at  my  expense.       Enjoy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note: Duplicate entries will not be counted. You will be
> notified
> > > > > by email with further instructions once this email has reached
> > > 1000
> > > > > people. Windows98 will not be shipped until it has been released
>
> > > > > to  the general public.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Your friend,
> > > > >           Bill Gates & The Microsoft Development Team.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---1936847063-1692349994-897003190=:66454--
> > > > > > --------- End forwarded message ----------
> > > > > > Sindy  Arnold, (404) 238-3632 or T/L 558-3632
> > > > > > Fax (404) 238-7666 or T/L 558-7666
> > > > > > Internal Mail Zip L04C9, Atlanta GA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ______________________________________________________
> > > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> > <http://www.hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > <<cc:Mail note part>>
> > > > > ______________________________________________________
> > > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www <http://www>
> <<cc:Mail
> > note part>>
> > > > > .hotmail.com
> > > > >
> > > >   <<cc:Mail note part>>
> >
> > ----------
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:41:52 EDT
From: <DYeager535@aol.com>
Subject: Re: need 403 advice, need more HP

HP and Torque beginning in 1972 are SAE figures. I am not POSITIVE where HP
and Torque were measured, but I BELIEVE it was at the drive wheels, and it was
with all accesories on. Before '72 it was BHP, block HP, measured I would
guess at the crank. If I'm mistaken, anyone please correct me, but I know that
it changed in '72. Also, according to the FAQ, bumping CR up to 9:1 or 10:1
only yields a 3% HP gain per point of CR. Unless I was racing, I wouldn't be
able to justify the expense of buying better heads, and having them reworked.
Of course that is just me though : )  Dorian

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 11:38:32 -0500
From: Dan Williams <442much@plutonium.net>
Subject: Re: DMR/JM Olds Nats - Who is Going Where?

I'll be going to the JM nats just due to the fact that they are much closer.  I
did notice the JM was putting up much more money than DM.  Regardless of who
booked which event first, it is a shame that they are on the same day.  There 
is
so little Olds action around, and this just spilts it in half.  Well, probably
not in half, because I predict more people will be in Norwalk.  Hopefully next
year there will be two separate events on two different weekends.


- --
Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                     68 442 Convertible

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 18:40:25 EDT
From: <ANTIQOLDS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 69 OAI

In a message dated 98-08-08 10:45:41 EDT, you write:

<<
 Thanks for info. I got mine from company called Best of Class in IL. Wonder
if
 Karl you refer to is same. The one's I have are exact copies and even came
 with extra lip
 molding in stainless steel.  Couldn't have been more pleased with quality...

 Rgds,
 Rob Thomas >>
No, Karl is on his own. He does other repro parts also, 70-72 console lids,
70-72 4 spd console adapters, 68-69 OAI scoup mouldings the mounting brackets
for them also the complete OAI set ups.

Everett  OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 18:49:24 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Trust me, I am insane! was I've got to be crazy

In a message dated 98-08-08 08:52:12 EDT, you write:

<< With the 6 clyinder, the battery is kind of small.  Will it
 hurt anything to use the battery from my '85 Cutlass just for this one
 time?  This battery is slightly bigger in size. >>

I suggest a long term investment.

Unless you have every intention of replacing the battery tray or placing dual
1000CCA batts in parallel in the trunk for racing ballast.

You may recall a long posting featuring me tearing out my hair because my
battery leaked from the bottom until not enough charge to start the car.

I fear that even a slight base size difference will place undue stress on the
bottom of the battery.

Remember; those suckers are HEAVY!

I figure that I must have damaged my batt by placing it on the ground while
tinkering. I just did not notice that I placed it atop a pebble or some such.

Plus the possibility of leaking acid in not good.

Acid will short low voltage current very easily.
Such as EPROM circuitry.

Just a few thoughts.

BTW Congrats on someone finding a Buehner-priced Olds!

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 18:53:45 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for Decals - More info

In a message dated 98-08-08 12:30:04 EDT, you write:

<< try jim osborne reproductions sorry dont have contact info right now. >>

Actually.
It was J Osborne Repro that I was thinking of.
I just wanted to make sure Doc Decal had been tried.

I know for a fact that Osborne has those decals.
I looked them up in the catalogue that he sent me with the 1929-49 GM
interchange manual that I bought from him.

Call him at (770) 962-7556

or visit:

www.osborne-reproduction.com

Hope you can forgive me for the wait.

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 19:07:22 -0400
From: tw@acsworld.net (Troy A Wyland)
Subject: 86 87 Olds interior swap

Hi I have an 86 olds Cutlass Supreme and I just bought an 87 Olds
Cutlass Salon. Im thinking about taking out the interior out of the 87
and putting it in the 86. Know will all the gages hook right up and work
right or not?
The 87 has theRallye cluster ( thats what I like about it ) I hope
someone will reply with the correct info. The 87 also has power windows
and locks ( like that too ) .Let me know whats all involved. Thanks
Troy  A.

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 18:35:31 -0500
From: Dan Williams <442much@plutonium.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for Decals - More info

>

Karl,

Thanks for the info.  Actually it is www.osborn-reproduction.com for the web
site.  I figured it real quick (you had an extra e).  However, there is not
very much info on the site.  Can you tell me how much shipping is for the 2
decals that I need.  If I order them from the Paddock, the shipping is nearly
$9 for $6 in decals!  Also, will he refund your $5 catalog order with a
purchase?

- -Dan

>
>
> Call him at (770) 962-7556
>
> or visit:
>
> www.osborne-reproduction.com
>
> Hope you can forgive me for the wait.
>
> SOM
> &KA


- --
Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                     68 442 Convertible

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 19:29:35 -0400
From: Ken <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: 78 cutlass wiring question.. (revised)

I ripped out all the hacked wiring.  All thats left is what Olds put there.

Comming from the firewall I have the following:

(thick wires)
Light Pink
Pink
Red+Red (attached, goes to solonoid)

(thin wires)
Brown
Light Brown
Green

Does anyone have a 78 Cutlass wiring schematic handy? I'm pretty sure I
have the thick wires accounted for, it's the thin ones that are giving me
fits...

Ken

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:34:10 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: 115 Octane Gas & Opinions

Chris wrote:

<Well isn't this a gas-gas mixture?>

Yes, in a matter of speaking.  Some people are very reluctant to run any of
the ethanol-equipped gasoline available at the pumps.  That's another matter
of opinions, and as you wrote:

<Oh don't tempt me with the remaining part of that line! :-)>
NYA, NYA, NA-NYA, NYA!!!!!!!!!!!!  :-)

We're really having too much fun here lately...............

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:47:30 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Separating out the Olds from the chaff :was the ( ! ) thing

In a message dated 98-08-07 22:02:28 EDT, you write:

<< Now for the question.....Why is it that a starter has to turn the motor so
 many times in order for the car/truck to start, but when (pretend the battery
 is dead and no cables are available) you push start the car/truck it seems to
 fire up way faster? >>

Because you need a new starter.
Or a batt with more CCA.

With my (unfotunately) new (read remanufactured) starter and 1000 CCA Die
Hard, Soylent fires up right away. Except for slight vapor lock when hot.

She ALWAYS starts, quickly, just 5-10 secs longer hot.
(((When the battery is good,and I have the right starter and...)))
<sigh>

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:47:33 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: That goregeous Texas gal....

Here is how silly I am;

Early in my work week.......

(Actually, if I am at work it is always Early!)

Anyway, I mentioned that one thing I do is test materials for PCB's?

Well, on this day I found out that if PCB's are detected, we put a tiny yellow
label on th sample jar.
The label says: danger; contains PCB's - or something similar.

So I noticed that these labels were not numbered. So nobody will miss one!
(heheheh)

So I take one and put it dead center.....on my forehead!

But what was really funny was that nobody wanted to say;
"Hey, Karl, do you know that you have a yellow thing on your forehead?"

They just kinda discussed it among themselves before one actually mentioned it
to me.

And I says; "Oh, sure, I put it there!"

[[PCB's are bad because the dissolve VERY easily in animal fat. Therefore man,
who is atop the food chain, can acquire PCB's through his food, water,
air......There is little documented about the effects of PCB's. The real
danger is of "Biomagnification". Which means accumulation of huge quantities
of PCB's in you body though the food chain!]]

(You see, I figured that I does contain some PCB's, so.....)

Heck, I have detected PCB's in the samples that left chromatograms that were
much better than the PCB standards that we use to calibrate the detectors!

But the real reason for this missive is to see how interested you are in
"chatting"?

Go to www.lyrea.com/~buehner

Then click on the bold text:"RocketTalk! Come in and chat about your Olds!"

I will show up after approx 9pm cst tonite (Sat) likely others will be too.

Karl should have something bawdy to say but real tired now.

K

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:47:32 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: To Greg;  Re: Miscellaneous....

Uh, Greg?

Was that a bit much?

I have actually gotten positive responses, but was that..well ... within
bounds?

You will let me know if I stray from the golden path?

TIA

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 19:53:59 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: ATTN: SE Mich+ NW Ohio Oldsers (maybe Indiana)

Would anyone happen to know where there might be a OldsmoShell to buy? I
need an Olds with not too much rust, a decent body, a th400, driveshaft,
rear end, no motor, and a decent interior. BASICALLY, I'm looking for a
driveable car with no motor. I have a 455 project in the making and I
need a car to put it in, for relatively cheap. I can't scrape up a
junkyard car, they've all been picked apart. I know where I could get
one, but it would be my last resort. It has a th350, and we all know
that it won't be able to take that kind of torqe for very long, and I
don't need another trans rebuild staring at me.
- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
         777777 33333
            77      33
Cutlass    77    3333   Supreme
          77        33
         77     33333
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:59:19 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: 115 Octane Gas - Ethanol Questions

Fred brings up an interesting bit of information -- I didn't know that amounts
of ethanol in gas over, say 10% will cause valve damage.  I'm curious as to
how and why this happens.

I remember there being a sanctining group for stock cars in the upper midwest
was requiring their race cars to run an ethanol-mixed fuel.  The group is
called the Mid-American Stock Car Series and I think the fuel was called
Zecol.  Anyone out there with any more info on these?

I know there's a difference between ethanol and methanol as far as
composition, but is there a difference in how they would affect an engine's
internals?  The reason I ask this is there are thousands of racers out there
on race courses (mostly dirt tracks) that race on straight methanol weekly.  I
know methanol doesn't burn as hot as gas and it usually takes a lot more
methanol to power a race car, these guys usually have fuel cells that are 22
gallon size and up.

Questions, Questions, Questions..........................

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:00:54 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Finale: Looking for Decals

The ONLY reason this is going public is to elucidate others;

<< ... there is not very much info on the site.  >>

Karl not known.
Been busy, fuel line & wiper motor.

<< Can you tell me how much shipping is for the 2 decals that I need.  If I
order them from the Paddock, the shipping is nearly $9 for $6 in decals!
Also, will he refund your $5 catalog order with a purchase? >>

I see nothing *obvious* to indicat that $5 is refundable.
Too bad. If I recall, there is a price on the Jeg's catalogs, but got lots and
was charged once - mebbe.

OK that was an air cleaner rear and a/c frigidaire for 1968 442 conv?

The catalogue separates by year, so easy to find.

the "400 cu in 4-V" decal (shroud top?) is $10
the 400-4V "Keep your GM all GM" decal is $3
there is a "air cleaner service inst decal PCV" for $2.50

the "Frigidare air cond comp decal red" is $3.50

A 1968 convertible top manual is also available for $6.

As are similar manuals for 1942-49, 56, and 1962-68.

The catalogue is 163 pages and gots lots.

Sorry, Mark!

SOM
&KA




 > www.osborne-reproduction.com

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:02:18 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Karl guity here.

Yup.

Very late for me.

Most of that stuff shouda been private!

Bad Karl!

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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 02:02:43 +0200
From: "TRONDJARLE PEDERSEN" <trondped@c2i.net>
Subject: Im nuts...

Well some off you might remember my: i give up post... every thing semed so god
until yesterday. I was going to gett the insuranse mony and ewerything well
someone obiosly caled the cops, they have mesured my brake marks lokked at the
cars and figured out that the speed was at least 109,4? km (some fany computer
program) SO i gett: a 2000nok(260us$) ticet. no insuranse mony but i do keep my
lisens. so i will be using my 69 f85 as a daily driver,in the winter,on ice,on
salted roads(some off them anyway). Well wish me luck.

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:16:07 EDT
From: <JJP442@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Olds News

What does that 2+2=5 thing mean???

JJP442@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:23:31 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Olds News

2+2=5.  A conundrum wrapped in a mystery.  Philosophers have passed hundreds
of hours contemplating and debating this very hismotality while cruising
Pleasant Hill Road in their 98 convertibles.  Most, the sagest in the group,
agree that it don't mean squat.  The position of the remaining savants is
that it's a trap.  Peter

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 20:49:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: re: 115 octane gas - expensive

re: the expense of high octane gas

I don't know about in your area but around here... I can get small
airplane fuel from the local backwoods airport (low-lead 105+ octane I
think) for in the neighborhood of 1.30 to 1.50 / gallon.  I don't run it
very often... but sometimes I have in some of the older cars I've had...
ran it once in the Pontiac... ran great... low lead was probably good for
it too... Don't think they are supposed to sell it for use in a vehicle...
but normally they'll sell it to you in an approved container (gas can).



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     work:  GQPR12E@Prodigy.com
 |  |  |
 | / \ |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 |/   \|
  \   /      1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
   \ /          (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
    |        1980 Rover 3500 SD1
		(215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:57:30 EDT
From: <KarlAune@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Im nuts...

In a message dated 98-08-08 20:08:03 EDT, you write:

<<  they have mesured my brake marks lokked at the cars and figured out that
the speed was at least 109,4? km (some fany computer program) SO i gett: a
2000nok(260us$) ticet. no insuranse mony but i do keep my lisens. >>

Trond?

Point out that your vehicle does NOT have anti-lock brakes!

Most modern cars do.
The driver of a caddy ahead of me on the leftmost lane on I-294 (a four-lane
highway with a rather quick pace) was not paying attention is stop-and-go
traffic. He braked VERY suddeny.

I had thought that i was maintaining a safe distance, but I never saw a car
stop so suddenly.
What made it worse was that he pulled onto the left shoulder.

The moment that I saw his brakelights, I stomped on it.
(Incidentally, I believe this to be the moment that I  *broke* a brake drum!)

With 4 drums locked up, I started sliding.
But the caddy was getting closer!
So I went to the left shoulder!
But the caddy did too!

So I could only try yo go between him and the wall!
The following happens while still sliding to the tune of complaining
vulcanized rubber.

Karl flings steering wheel to left!
Aaaaah! Concrete wall divider is getting too close!

Karl flings wheel to right!
Aaaah! SOM getting too close to caddy!

Karl flings wheel to left!
Aaaah! Wall!

Karl flings wheel to right!
Aaah! Caddy!

Karl flings wheel to left!
Wall!

Karl flings wheel to right!
Caddy!

Karl flings wheel to.....



Soylent Ocean Mist comes to rest.

Karl, through instinct and skill, has managed to not strike another vehicle,
or wall.

SOM is within 3" of both!

Karl did feel bad for the three passengers.

Their average age was 51.

Karl was driving the carpool that day.
One was his boss!

Boss was impressed!
"How could you have missed.......?"

Trond!
You are not nuts!
But it is true that Norway does inspect vehicles and will not let the "fail"
cars on the road.
But it is UNFAIR that you should be prevented from driving a car that does not
have antilock brakes!

Let the list know if there is a way we can help.

After all, Norway has a pop. of a scant 4-5 million.
This list has gotta be 4-5 hundred.

I say we can whip 'em easy!

(Or something)

Yah. here I go again, overthrowing small countries!

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 21:05:10 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Olds screen saver

Me Too

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454
1970 442 Convertible  (PARTING OUT)


- ----------
> From: JM <super442@yahoo.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Olds screen saver
> Date: Saturday, August 08, 1998 3:53 PM
>
> --Hello everyone,
>
>           Had a crash yesterday, lost everything:(
>  Can someone send me the address where I can get the screen saver that
> was going around the list awhile back. Thanks,
>              John
>
>
>
>
> ==
> mailto:super442@yahoo.com           ICQ # 15391466
> 1985 Cutlass-----T-Tops--307
H.O./3.73--http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
> 1984 Cutlass-Moonroof--307
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/PatsCar.html
> 1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be 403!
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>

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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 21:15:23 EDT
From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
Subject: Av Gas (Was Re: 115 octane gas - expensive)

Clayton,

Here's what I know about running aviation gas:

It has additives that normal gas doesn't, primarily due to the enviroment it
has to operate in (high altitude, very cold thin air).  I don't remember
hearing anything about any potential trouble using the stuff, just remember
this from a racing publication and an article about different fuels available
for racing and their composition.  I wouldn't think using a little now and
then would cause any trouble, but if I used it in Grace at the track where we
have a specific fuel rule and they asked for a sample which turned up those
other additives, then I'd be in trouble.

Hope this helps.  Take Care!
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 21:26:46 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Who's married to whom

James Thingwold wrote:

> Oh haha - I get the same thing from the other gender!  As I was sitting
(SNIPPING A LITTLE HERE)
> Sure wish I had a garage I could USE!!

My place has a two car up and almost a three car down, but I can't sit
inside any of them because of all the furniture, clothes, etc that are
heaped around and on them.  Part of this is due to my motherinlaw moving
up here about 4 years ago us bringing 99% of her things up here to let
her go through from time to time.  That seems to be the only thing in
short supply as we have about 4 of everything else.  I do have three of
my four Cutlass/Hurst Oldsmobiles inside, but the other on unfortunately
resides outside.  I still don't have the heart to part it out.  Somebody
PLEASE buy it so I can continue to look for other parts cars.  It's a 72
S 2 dr with 85k or so miles on it.  Not perfect, a real solid old car
for $2,200 or so.

Don Sowers
Nicholasville, Ky

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 21:32:48 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!

Christopher Casteel wrote:
>
> Consider checking e-mail a little more often in the future...
>
> At 10:36 PM 8/3/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >I have nearly 10,000 messages,
> >How do I erase them?

One might consider using the delete button a time or two, don'tcha
think?

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 21:37:27 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Far to many messages...can't keep up...help!!!

krzy4evr@usit.net wrote:
>
> Find, on your toolbar, the edit command. Click this and then find
> "select all". Click that and after all your messages are highlighted,
> go to the ever wonder working "delete". You problems will be
> solved..!!!
>
> Mike..........   (e=mc2)
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> > Consider checking e-mail a little more often in the future...
> >
> > At 10:36 PM 8/3/98 -0400, you wrote:
> > >I have nearly 10,000 messages,
> > >How do I erase them?

Sorry, but I got to thinking about this one.  I'm on several lists,
Oldsmobile, RX7, GS Buick and was on the BMW  a while back.  But anyhow,
being on three lists currently with high traffic, I only received about
800 messages in a recent three day period when I was sick and didn't
bother checking the email.  To accumulate 10,000 would take SEVERAL days
at that rate.  Just a passing thought.

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