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oldsmobile-digest       Sunday, August 30 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1456



Re: What colors for '68 headlight buckets??
Re: What colors for '68 headlight buckets??
Re: Water Pump
Re: Swap Meet help
Re: Year 1 Motor Mount Question
Tune-up Screw-up
Re: 86 Salon overheating update..........
Re: 86 Salon overheating update..........2
Re: Water Pump
Re: Norm Oil Pressure??
Re: Year 1 Motor Mount Question
Re: Mission Fast Street Impossible CAM-AM
W-31 authenticity check
'63 Dynamic 88 for parts
Re: Norm Oil Pressure??
Re: Norm Oil Pressure
Re: Found; Cast Crank Pulley ????
Re: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965
Re: will it work?
Re: will it work?
Re: Water Pump
In Pictures...
Re: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965
Re: will it work?
Aluminum heads <Gainesville>
Hood Springs
Re: W-31 authenticity check
Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>
Re: Hood Springs
RE: will it work?
Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>
Misc. Olds Stuff for Sale
Re: Some questions
Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>
Re: Some questions
Late model rear end markings
Engine ID
RE: Speedo head
Floorpans for 71 delta 88
RE: Floorpans for 71 delta 88
Salem Car Show
Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>
Cheap yet good W25 or W35?
RE: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965
79 Delta for sale
Re: Speedo head
Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>
Re: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965
Re: Some questions
heads   1/8 mile
Re: Salem Car Show
Re: Hood Springs
Peter Bausch (sp?) was Re: will it work?
Anybody have specs for 70 350 2bbl?
Re: Peter Bausch (sp?) was Re: will it work?
Re: heads   1/8 mile
1984 hurst olds
Re: Misc. Olds Stuff for Sale
Re: Some questions
Re: 2 bbl to 4 bbl Conversions; Whad'ya think?
UNBOUNCE: Engine ID
Re: Peter Bausch (sp?) was Re: will it work?
Re: Anybody have specs for 70 350 2bbl?
Re: heads   1/8 mile
Re: 86 Salon overheating update..........3
Found in paper

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 19:18:49 -0500
From: Dan Williams <442much@plutonium.net>
Subject: Re: What colors for '68 headlight buckets??

Krylon, Dull Aluminum is a near perfect match.


C. Casteel wrote:

> Going to give a try with repainting mine...
>
> I assume flat black for black areas.  What shade of silver/gray? What is the
> closest to this in the run of the mill spray paints at the hardware store?
>
> Thanks again in advance,


- --
Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                     68 442 Convertible

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:07:54 -0700
From: Mr Ada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: What colors for '68 headlight buckets??

Dan Williams wrote:

> Krylon, Dull Aluminum is a near perfect match.
>
> C. Casteel wrote:
>
> > Going to give a try with repainting mine...
> >
> > I assume flat black for black areas.  What shade of silver/gray? What is 
the
> > closest to this in the run of the mill spray paints at the hardware store?

I went with argent (got it specially made into a spray paint) and didn't bother
with black area (left it argent).  Not original, however, I do like it.  I may
proceed to spray the grille the same argent color.

Chris Sparks

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 00:35:22 +0000
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Water Pump

I just went through this on my last road trip with my 86 Cutlass.  It is
pretty straight forward.  I would take the fan shroud and lower crank pulley
off.  I had a hard time getting to the lowest two bolts on the water pump. I
took the pulley off and it was easy.  You also have to take the alt, p/s,
a/c, and air pump lose.  I would replace the hose between the pump and
intake also while I have the pump off.  If you have any question feel free
to e-mail me direct. hope this helps. Good luck.




At 08:06 PM 8/29/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Water pump on the 307 is making some really funky noises. The factory manual
>shows replacing it as pretty much straight forward. Anyone know of hidden
>"gotcha's" that I should watch out for?
>
>tnx
>
>drc
>
>
>
Clarence
86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
San Antonio

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:56:04 EDT
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Swap Meet help

hay chermac...glad i could set you straight on the dates...

do you have enough passes...i have some extras


jeff

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:20:17 -0400
From: "Jim & Joanne Chermack" <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Year 1 Motor Mount Question

To Steve and all,

    There is no difference in these years. 69-72 455/400 cars all use the
same mounts. We have lots of them. 66-68 400 cars used a diffent mount that
is very hard to get. They are different. They have the same bolt spacing as
the 330/350 mounts.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts



- -----Original Message-----
From: Reed, Steve <sreed@cp.varco.com>
To: 'Olds' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 4:33 PM
Subject: Year 1 Motor Mount Question


>While looking thru my Year One catalog today, I noticed that the motor
>mount P/N: 508N "Fits 1969 400 & 1969-72 455 V8 models.  Fits LH or RH.
>Aftermarket.  Note:  This mount will not fit 1970 442 455 models."
>(Catalog #R325, Pg. 112)
>
>Why would this mount not work on '70 4-4-2's?  What makes the 70 4-4-2
>mounting different?
>
>Steve Reed
>'70 4-4-2 Ragtop
>Austin, TX
>
>

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:38:49 -0400
From: dk0009@epfl2.epflbalto.org (Douglas Kitchener)
Subject: Tune-up Screw-up

How _not_ to tune up your Olds... I tender this to both lists in the hope that
someone else will avoid this mistake!

A friend of mine, who has a '71 Cutlass S (white/blue int), asked me to help 
her
 tune it up last Saturday.  She does a lot of her own work, and knows what
she's doing... is not afraid to tackle anything, and in fact, did quite a lot
of the cosmetic restoration on this car.  But it had been awhile since she had
done a tuneup (her bro-in-law is a professional mechanic at the Buick dealer
here, and he did the last one), plus, she doesn't have a dwell meter or timing
light, so I was happy to help out.

Things went fairly smoothly as we started.  The night before, she had removed
the points and condenser (a Delco Uniset), but she couldn't remember how to
install and wire the separate condenser and points.  I showed her the picture 
in
 the shop manual and started to install the clip which holds the condenser.
During this operation, I made a valiant (!) attempt to drop the screw down the
distributor, but she was standing by with a magnet.  Since the situation
appeared to be more properly set up for someone who's left-handed (which she
is), I suggested that she take the second shot.

Well, we finished everything up and took the car for a blast.  It was idling
fine, but when we took it out on the main street, it was breaking down badly, 
no
 power... arrgh.  Took it back to the house and checked for crossed plug wires.
 They were OK, so I decided to just start over again, intending to put the old
points back in.  After I took the distributor cap back off, I found that we had
simply double-teamed each other... she had started the screw for the condenser
clip, but neither of us tightened it down; each assumed that the other had!

Arrgh.  The screw was only in by a thread or two, and so the condenser ground
wasn't very good...

Whew!  That's all it was!

Duh...

Morals...

Make sure points and condenser are tightened down, and don't get distracted!

Rocket on!

Doug

(I'm not on the mailing list, so please copy me on any raspberries!)  :)

D

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:05:22 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@cchat.com>
Subject: Re: 86 Salon overheating update..........

Jason Adcock wrote:
>
> 215 should be normal.  A 195 thermostat isn't fully open until 222 degrees,
> so you're actually running cooler than you could be running.  I plan to put
> a high-flow 180 degree t'stat in this spring.  It should certainly be fine
> for the remainder of the year, though.

215?!?!?  No, I would say that's a little warm...

Mine likes 160-180 range, sticks like glue to that 170 mark..  I have a
160 Thermo in there now, 180 planned for the next time I gotta pull it
apart...

I don't even get 210 if I drive for an hour, and shut it off...
(shruggin) But then again, mine likes cool temps..

307 - Y (couldn't I have more ballz)
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:07:47 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@cchat.com>
Subject: Re: 86 Salon overheating update..........2

RCKTPWR@aol.com wrote:

> gauge is aftermarket..my fact gauge has no power to it !! /other gauges work
> fine. Waterpump flows OK. Will back blow the a/c condenser today. Block could
> have debris in it, dont know how long it sat before i bought it. Have a
> 6-blade flex fan on it now also. Thanks for the tips, will keep ya advised.
> Bernie

Why a 6 Blade if you don't mind my asking, and what style?  Triangular
blades, or flat bigger type blades?  Mine's got a flat bigger bladed
fan, not recommended for over 4000 RPM (My WOT shift point anyway),
sounds like a Turbo 5.0
- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:16:46 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@cchat.com>
Subject: Re: Water Pump

Dave Cullen wrote:
>
> Water pump on the 307 is making some really funky noises. The factory manual
> shows replacing it as pretty much straight forward. Anyone know of hidden
> "gotcha's" that I should watch out for?

Replaced mine a few months ago...

No problems to report...  No hidden stuff.  Pretty easy.

- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:22:39 EDT
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Norm Oil Pressure??

<< ..wouldn't shimming the
 spring in the pump (pressure spring)  cause the pump to bypass at higher PSI,
 thereby allowing you to ACTUALLY use the higher volume pump?  >>

Yes  it would .  I did this to a Pontiac 400 motor when I was in HS .  WHen I
started the motor for the first time my 80# gauge pegged!  I instaled a 100#
gauge to see what it really was and cold it would almost peg that. Well to
make a long story short I ended up pulling that pump out and put it back to
the factory spec.s  I got real tired of blowing out the  filter O-ring.  <G>

Joe Stackman

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:31:37 EDT
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Year 1 Motor Mount Question

, you write:

<<     There is no difference in these years. 69-72 455/400 cars all use the
 same mounts. We have lots of them. 66-68 400 cars used a diffent mount that
 is very hard to get. They are different. They have the same bolt spacing as
 the 330/350 mounts.

 Jim Chermack >>

THere is one difference,  the motor mount change didnt take place till mid 69
.  I learned this the hard way.

Joe Stackman

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:35:14 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mission Fast Street Impossible CAM-AM

Mark,

Have that book, and remember the pictures.  Man, that would be quite an engine
to have tucked under the hood of a 442 -- the turbo whine had to be
unbelieveable!

What I'd like to find is some good pictures of those old Can-Am cars with Olds
power in them.  Anyone?

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:59:04 -0400
From: Bill & Beth <dickinson@skow.net>
Subject: W-31 authenticity check

Well I took mike rothe's list to my W-31 and this is what I came up
with.
There is no sound deadening materal behind the rear seat and very little
under the package tray. I compared the firewall pad on my W-31 to my
cutlass-s the W-31 is way thinner. the car tag says it was made in
Lansing. It is a 4spd car, not sure what the rear end gears are, heads
are #6, aluminum intake says oldsmobile W-350, the only numbers I could
find on the Q-jet were not very clear but this is I think they are
7043250 RA then under those numbers 1493, harmonic balancer is very
thick, sport mirrors, ram air hood but missing air cleaner. The car is
yellow with black stripes and W-31 tags on front fenders, front and rear
sway bars, and boxed control arms, to my supprise it does have front
disc brakes. I thought they were drum. And the brakes are manual, the
car has dual exhaust on  it now I am not sure how to tell the difference
between dual manifolds and single. I did look at the dash and it does
have woodgrain on the lower dash and chrome edging.
Well thats what I found any more ideas. Does anyone know how to find out
previous owners of a car. I would like to find ot the history of this
car.
Thanks
Bill Dickinson

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:18:37 EDT
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: '63 Dynamic 88 for parts

Group-

Found a '63 Dynamic 88 at a local car 'donation' yard. 2dr HT, bench, air. Not
a runner. Good mostly dry body. Nice fenders, taillights. maybe bumpers, front
clip. I could probably snag the whole thing cheap--$400?--if somebody is
interested in a good parts car.

I am NOT interested in buying it to part, but if somebody on the list is dying
for this part or that, I may be able to do a little bit of cherry picking.

Private Email to
Coupeking@aol.com
Peter

Car in SoCal area, LA Harbor.

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:29:47 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Norm Oil Pressure??

Did the motor fail?
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: DYeager535@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Norm Oil Pressure??
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 6:15 PM
>
> In a message dated 98-08-29 18:58:22 EDT, you write:
>
> << It was just that yesterday while driving home on the highway for about
>  15plus miles at 2800-3000RPM (55-65MPH). I noticed that my gauge was a
tad
>  berlow the 50 mark where it usually always is. I would say it was about
>  45pounds. Just got a little paranoid.
>   >>
>
>    heh heh..before I quit driving the 403, oil pressure at idle was
5psi..for
> 2 years. Odd thing was, 307 before it did the same thing. Changed gauges
about
> 4 times, and replaced the sending unit. At driving RPM's (anything above
idle)
> it was at least 15, never higher than 30, with 20-50W oil. Dorian

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:39:48 EDT
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Norm Oil Pressure

In a message dated 98-08-30 01:35:08 EDT, you write:

<< Did the motor fail?
 Pettrix@prodigy.net >>

   Well, probable bearing noise, but it is also a 77, unrebuilt, with unknown
mileage..It was 5 psi when I bought it. Will know what exactly it is when I
get it apart.  Dorian

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:52:13 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Found; Cast Crank Pulley ????

Karl inquires;

A cast (not stamped metal) crank pulley.
It had numbers stamped into the back which I did not write down.

Ken Snyder writes:

<< It was from an Olds?  I can't remember ever seeing one on anything I've
ever had (64-up), but there's always something to learn out there.
 How many grooves?
 Diameter?
 Standard Olds 4-bolt pattern?
  >>

Item is actually in the posession of David Brown.
(Hope he does not mind me posting, I am too curious.)

It is a 2-groove pulley approximately the same size (w/o side-by-side comp!)
as the stamped pulley on my 425.
Yup it gots the std. 4 bolt-holes.
Also, if I recall rightly, two adjacent drillings, for balancing???
But it is not a balancer!

Karl never saw one before (but prolly just dint notice on other cars).

Dave might be able to provide #s stamped into it.

Anyone have one of these????

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:55:39 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965

In a message dated 98-08-29 11:16:52 EDT, you write:

<< The convertible frame is reinforced to compensate for the loss of rigidity
when the steel top goes by-by. >>

Well I figured.

So using 2dr hdtp frame on a 4-coil spring car will incur LOTS of sway??

Wow!

I figured.

Thanks.

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:10:20 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: will it work?

In a message dated 98-08-29 19:18:02 EDT, you write:

<< changing the harmonic balancer from one engine to another may be possible
and might "work" but >>

< Did they do that at the factory? I mean install them and check the overall
balance, or however they could check it? Just curious, Dorian >

It is my understanding that may be possible to "rebalance" the V.D.
Of course, for that to work a too big v.d. would be better than a smaller one.
You can allus remove metal from a bigger one.
If you are really concerned...just pull the correct one in a yarde.
Lotsa effort, but right part!
(course you might still want the yarde part rebalanced!)

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:13:57 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: will it work?

One last thought related to the last message.

Reworking the engine;

Use of new pistons for overbore.
Notching rods for oiling.
drilling/polishing crank.

Just about anything above and other mods affect the inertial characteristics
of the reciprocating parts. Rebalancing v.d. could be a good idea.

Just a thought.

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:13:44 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Water Pump

At 08:06 PM 8/29/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Water pump on the 307 is making some really funky noises. The factory manual
>shows replacing it as pretty much straight forward. Anyone know of hidden
>"gotcha's" that I should watch out for?
>
>
It's a pretty easy job.
Just make sure the parts store gives you the right pump.
there are 5", 5.5" and 6" pumps. Parts stores (and or rebuilders)
don't always label year, AC ,non-AC pumps corectly.

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:35:09 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: In Pictures...

Sidney's big car show again today...  One Olds...  Remember the Rallye Rat?
That's it.  Sweet, ~oh so sweet~ Rallye 350, except for the bb chev. under the
hood :(  Turns out he rescued the car from the local junkyard.  More impressed,
suddenly.  Lots of nice GTO's, but...  A 68 cama*o dragger on display had the
hood propped up on the rear wing.  Airbrushed on the backside of the scoop
(where driver could see it) were the words" Wide open till you see God, then
brake!"  Liked that touch :)

After show, watched Good Will Hunting.  Good show, more vocal than you'd 
figure,
based on the great reviews it's gotten...  Anyway, the daily driver there was a
late 70's Delta (I think...  Possibly mid 70s)  Anyway, there's a nice G-body
Regal in Will's front yard, but never moves.  Towards the end of the movie, a
Nova enters the plot.  "That's gotta be the ~ugliest~ fu**ing car I've ~ever~
seen"  Best quote in history!!!!!  :)

Many great one-liners in the movie.  Not bad at all :)


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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 08:46:05 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965

Don't know about LOTS O' sway.  The frame is pretty meaty as is.  Mine has a
rectangular sheet of steel, maybe 18 inches in each direction (mebbe square?
then) welded at the crotch (giggle giggle) of the X member of the frame.  If
the coupe is missing this, it could be an easy (At least while I'm not doing
it) thing to do.  Swapping frames?  Sounds like desperation to me.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: KarlAune@aol.com <KarlAune@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965


>In a message dated 98-08-29 11:16:52 EDT, you write:
>
><< The convertible frame is reinforced to compensate for the loss of
rigidity
>when the steel top goes by-by. >>
>
>Well I figured.
>
>So using 2dr hdtp frame on a 4-coil spring car will incur LOTS of sway??
>
>Wow!
>
>I figured.
>
>Thanks.
>
>SOM
>&KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 08:51:01 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: will it work?

Sorry to come late to this thread.  Is this engine a reman?  Or did this
thing just puke it's balancer?  If the engine is in the machine shop, the
reciprocating mass should be balanced with flywheel and balancer on.  If
this is an otherwise complete engine, in chassis, then a fresh balancer can
be hung.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: KarlAune@aol.com <KarlAune@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: will it work?


>One last thought related to the last message.
>
>Reworking the engine;
>
>Use of new pistons for overbore.
>Notching rods for oiling.
>drilling/polishing crank.
>
>Just about anything above and other mods affect the inertial
characteristics
>of the reciprocating parts. Rebalancing v.d. could be a good idea.
>
>Just a thought.
>
>SOM
>&KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:21:58 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>

Well here it is , Temp 99 humidity 95%  1st run 12.192, 2nd 11.961, 3rd
11.902,
4th 11.880. no 5th run track shut me down till proper safty equipment.
60ft went to hell,
I know it has a lot more.  it was worth the time,  the aggravation, {
the money?} well at least I think so. { the wife dont}    Butch 68 442
post

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:29:09 -0400
From: "George & Joan C. Lesperance" <gal1@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Hood Springs

Good Morning Folks:
      We are looking for new hood springs for an "A" body  1968 - 72
Oldsmobile.
       We have not tried the dealer as yet - we were wondering if
someone still makes them.
        Thanks for the help.    Joan & George

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:32:59 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: W-31 authenticity check

I am not sure how to tell the difference
> between dual manifolds and single. I did look at the dash and it does
> have woodgrain on the lower dash and chrome edging.
> Well thats what I found any more ideas. Does anyone know how to find out
> previous owners of a car. I would like to find ot the history of this
> car.

The dual exhausts for 350s were single exhaust manifolds with the
passenger side inlet from the driver's side blocked off.  So it only
LOOKS like it used to have single exhaust.  So I WASN'T dreaming about
the dash appearance.  Whew!  Thought I was getting Alzheimer's there for
a minute.  I only need to look at one car per year, so I won't get so
confused!!! :)

As far as finding previous owners, you need to first find out WHAT
STATE(S) the car was in.  From there, you can sometimes request a title
search, but it may cost a few bucks.  Don't know how far back they would
go, however.  I would FIRST try and find out from the person YOU got it
from where THEY got it, and maybe you can to a hand-to-hand search that
way.  I did this with my recently purchased car.  I found the guy that
sold it to the person I bought it from, and from him I learned the
original owner's name/phone, etc.  I got to talk to the original owner,
and found a plethora of good information, plus, since he didn't own the
car anymore and had no use for them, he gave me a couple of extra
freebie NOS parts!  So it pays to search sometimes.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:39:49 -0400
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>

>Well here it is , Temp 99 humidity 95%  1st run 12.192, 2nd 11.961, 3rd
>11.902,
>4th 11.880. no 5th run track shut me down till proper safty equipment.
>60ft went to hell,
>I know it has a lot more.  it was worth the time,  the aggravation, {
>the money?} well at least I think so. { the wife dont}    Butch 68 442
>post


It would be nice to have original times and mph to compare to the aluminum
head runs.

Thanks,
Ken

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:39:00 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Hood Springs

>       We are looking for new hood springs for an "A" body  1968 - 72
> Oldsmobile.
>        We have not tried the dealer as yet - we were wondering if
> someone still makes them.



Doesn't YEAR ONE sell these?  Don't know if they do anymore.  Works with
original ram air or non-ram air hoods.  Not for use on aftermarket
fiberglass hoods.  Part number BB4, price-34.95 per pair.
1-800-950-9503.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 06:54:15 -0700
From: "Gary Andresen (At Home - Personal e-mail address)" <gandresen@home.com>
Subject: RE: will it work?

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They aren't that expensive, so I would take the chance.  You may still
be able to buy them at your local auto parts store, or GM dealer.

If not, pretty sure Mondello carries them.

Gary Andresen

'55 Old 88 2-door Hardtop
with 455 Olds and T400
http://www.442.com/andresen.html

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:58:38 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>

old times 12.420 at 107.83 ,12.444, at107.55, 12.495, at107.07.  new 12.192 at
112.95, 11.961 at 111.17  11.902 at112.81  11.880 at 112.96          butch

Ken wrote:

> >Well here it is , Temp 99 humidity 95%  1st run 12.192, 2nd 11.961, 3rd
> >11.902,
> >4th 11.880. no 5th run track shut me down till proper safty equipment.
> >60ft went to hell,
> >I know it has a lot more.  it was worth the time,  the aggravation, {
> >the money?} well at least I think so. { the wife dont}    Butch 68 442
> >post
>
> It would be nice to have original times and mph to compare to the aluminum
> head runs.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 07:13:44 -0700
From: "Gary Andresen (At Home - Personal e-mail address)" <gandresen@home.com>
Subject: Misc. Olds Stuff for Sale

Posting this for a friend.

If interested, please respond to Bob L Campbell [mailto:rocketbob@juno.com]


1961 98 Holiday Coupe. A beautiful car! Only 4500 built. Don't know where
to price it. 10K should be a good place to start. Watch for a pic on
Bryceman's page.

New set of 15" Boyd's wheels and new white letter / black wall tires for
sale.
$1000.00 firm.

All the chrome a '57 Olds, 2-door hardtop. $400.

A '57 Olds builder engine $300. May hang on to the JetAway trans.???

New (200 miles) Edelbrock 600 cfm AFB type carb $200.

Will take offers on all.

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 05:00:48 -0700
From: Mr Ada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Some questions

Hi all,

I was just wondering something.  Will sheet metal from a 1968 VC ?1969
work on a 1968 442.
The front fenders from either year and light buckets from the 1968 VC?

Chris Sparks

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:15:13 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>

> old times 12.420 at 107.83 ,12.444, at107.55, 12.495, at107.07.  new 12.192 
at
> 112.95, 11.961 at 111.17  11.902 at112.81  11.880 at 112.96

I would say they were good for 1/2 second or more with a few more mph,
which is a pretty good deal if you drag race.  Proof's in the pudding.
Gotta love those guy's at Edelbrock!  You may want to contact them with
this info too.  Good PR, so to speak.

Wondering though, if you DON'T do much racing, if the 1500 price tag is
worth it on a warmed over street engine.  In other words, is this band
of found power at the high end, or out of the hole?  I would summize to
say based on mph increases, it's on the high end, as expected.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:19:46 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Some questions

> I was just wondering something.  Will sheet metal from a 1968 VC ?1969
> work on a 1968 442.
> The front fenders from either year and light buckets from the 1968 VC?

From 68 VC to 68 442, all the front end sheet metal should bolt up.
Including the light buckets.  I've heard that the mounting bolt holes
from 69 to 68 for the hood hinges are a bit different though.  Never
actually tried it myself.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 07:28:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Late model rear end markings

Morning everyone,
        Well,tried out the 3000psi pressure washer on the 3.73 this
morning....it's clean NOW!!!Anyway..I got some pics of the "factory
marker codes " if anyones interested,I know some of you purist out
there like that little EXTRA touch for your cars...I'll post them when
they get'em developed....GOT to get a digital camera...oh well,go
paint pretty black and get it in...see ya'll later,
                    John



==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:51:12 -0700
From: Sal DiMaio <sollyd@mediaone.net>
Subject: Engine ID

Hi there:
I have a 71 cutlass Supreme conv. that I purchased 2 years ago. This
summer I blew a head gasket (350). When I pulled the heads, I notice the
coolant ports aren't all the same as the ports on the block. (About half
of the block ports exist on the heads) Should this be a concern? Do I
have the right heads. According to the Oldsmobile Mail List Server
Community, the heads are off a '73 - 350. I can identify the casting on
the block as 395582 but cannot see (no stamp) the number on the block to
tell if its the original block but the block is GOLD in color (71 - 350
block color).
I CAN see the oil fill stamp and it does NOT match but I know the oil
fill is not always accurate. So finally I come to the question. Do I get
heads for a 71 - 350? OR... Do I get these heads machined? I also read
the casting on the intake and it reads 411990 but has OLDSMOBILE raised
letters. Is this the correct manifold? Please help!

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 08:00:25 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: Speedo head

Peter,
This is an easy one.

All you have to do is run the cable from the cruise unit
into the speed minder speedo after physically locating it
in place of the existing (non-speedminder) speedo. Absolute
direct swap in. All the wiring is already there in the harness so
that if the ground switch works, it should simply work when
you put it in and hook up the speedo drive cable coming from
the cruise unit.

If you take the initiative to open the speed minder speedo
to reset the odometer to make it accurate to your car's
mileage let me know. This is a tricky operation and I've
had varying luck on getting the speed minder to work after
resetting this.

Cool fix. I can guarantee that.

cf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Berusch [mailto:pber710840@email.msn.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 1998 7:36 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Speedo head
>
>
> Here's a question I know someone on the list can resolve.  I
> have a '66 big
> car (98) equipped with cruise control.  I bought a parts car
> just to have
> around "in case".  The parts car came with a speed minder
> speedo.  Are these
> two mutually exclusive?  Is there any reason I could or
> should not move the
> speed minder into my "good" car?  If memory serves, Olds
> wouldn't sell a car
> with both options.  Why not?  TIA.  Peter.
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:03:42 -0400
From: Andy Mikesell <andymikesell@mediaone.net>
Subject: Floorpans for 71 delta 88

I need to replace the rear floorpans on my 71 Delta 88 convertible.  Any
advice on parts suppliers?

I tried "Oldsmobile USA Parts Supply" in VA, but they didn't have them
for my car.  I also looked through Hemmings, but didn't find anything
that seemeed to be applicable.

Thanks,
Andy
andymikesell@mediaone.net

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 08:07:03 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: Floorpans for 71 delta 88

Andy,
Good luck on this one, please let us know what you find.

My guess is your best bet is the boneyard in CA or AZ,
I'd be surprised if there was enough demand for such
floorpans to warrant reproduction. You might check to
see if Ch*vy or P*ntiac or Bu*icks have a B-body convert
from 71. If so, it is possible that those are being repro'd
and may fit your car.

cf


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Mikesell [mailto:andymikesell@mediaone.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 1998 8:04 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Floorpans for 71 delta 88
>
>
> I need to replace the rear floorpans on my 71 Delta 88
> convertible.  Any
> advice on parts suppliers?
>
> I tried "Oldsmobile USA Parts Supply" in VA, but they didn't have them
> for my car.  I also looked through Hemmings, but didn't find anything
> that seemeed to be applicable.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
> andymikesell@mediaone.net
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:25:42 -0400
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Salem Car Show

Had a great time last night.  Went to the Salem, VA weekly "get together" at
a "Fast Freddie's" joint with Greg and Mike from the list.  In all, I'd say
100-150 cars.  A few Oldsies.  A sha-weet '67 442.  And I mean BEAUTIFUL.
The plaque said that it was an original owner car and the 455's been bored
out to 461 cui.  What an awesome ride.  Mike wants that one for Christmas...

Also saw an '83 Cutlass Supreme with a Chevy small block.  Nice sound, but
it was a Chevy.  I asked him what he had in it when he opened the hood and
he said that everything was ordered for a Monte Carlo...MC radiator, MC
headers, the whole bit.

ALSO saw a nice looking '83 H/O roll in.  The gent stepped out and our trio
kinda swarmed in.  He said that he plans to do so and so and this and that
and get new wheels and tires----new *wheels* and tires?  He had the original
15x7 SSIII's on there and that he previously sold a set for $200...TOTAL!!!
What!!!!????  Regardless, I didn't have cash on me then, so I'm still ridin'
in the 14x6 SSIII's.  Mike said he might ask how much he wants for the whole
car...you'd probably be surprised, based on this guy's previous experience
with H/O's.  This particular car was his third '83 and I don't think one of
them has been kept stock (except for this one, so far).  He had one '83 and
put a 455/700-4R into it.  He said, "oh, that 200-R4 is trash...the 700-4R
is much stronger."  Well, I've seen other thoughts on this and Greg said
that he's heard "differing stories".  Obviously, this guy has no respect for
the car itself and plans to race 'em.

All in all, a great show.  Anyone within 50 miles of Salem should seriously
consider coming down next weekend.  We might get a small Olds group going in
the parking lot there.

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:14:39 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>

B. Vosburgh wrote:
>
> old times 12.420 at 107.83 ,12.444, at107.55, 12.495, at107.07.  new 12.192 
at
> 112.95, 11.961 at 111.17  11.902 at112.81  11.880 at 112.96          butch

Well, they obviously make SOME sort of difference, and 990 is really not
ideal waether for dragging either.

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl)
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl)
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl)
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl)
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:20:00 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Cheap yet good W25 or W35?

In the future, I'll want to put a W25 hood on the 70. Does anybody have
a straight yet weathered hood for sale? It doesn't even have to have
good paint on it. Just as long as it's not hiddeously damaged.

How about a W35 spoiler? Anybody have one of those that they'd be
willing to let go for cheap, in relatively decent shape?

Just checking for the future,
- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl)
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl)
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl)
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl)
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 08:14:42 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965

Karl,
I'm pretty sure the convertible frames are all boxed from these
years and hardtop frames are open "C" channels. There are
probably other differences as well, what exactly I don't know
since the bodies all need to fit them.

Some history: AO Smith and a couple of other manufacturers
made these frames for Olds in these years. Each had their
stamp on the frame, see your chassis service manual for
more.

66 98 hardtop and 98 convert. frames are supposedly different,
at least based on both Hollander's and Mitchell's interchange
guides. What I've never figured out is just how -- my convert is
a boxed frame with a cross member just below the driver's
seat.

I'm pretty sure hardtop 98's were boxed frame too.This begs
the question: what's the difference? I know of a place with a
2 door hardtop 98 and would love to snag the frame someday
because mine has >300K miles on it and it is a little loose.

But I wouldn't want to engage in such project unless I knew
in advance that a) the hardtop frame would fit and b) I'd be
better off when finished.

thoughts?  Any one done a hardtop to convert. frame switch?

cf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: KarlAune@aol.com [mailto:KarlAune@aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 1998 4:41 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965
>
>
>
> I know this has come up before, more than once.
> So I'll post it quick.
>
> A fellow needs to replace the frame on a Dynamic88 convertible (2dr).
>
> Can he use a 2dr hdtp frame instead or is the conv frame reinforced?
>
> Thanks!
> K
>

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:31:39 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: 79 Delta for sale

List,
    My friend parked his 79 Delta after being hit head on.
He is parting it out - KC MO area - 816-224-6131   Deano

Tanks
The General

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:42:51 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Speedo head

Chris - Thanks.  I could see no reason why I could/should not do this.  I do
not have any understanding why the car could not be ordered with both cruise
and speed minder.  And, yes, I'm going to attempt to reset the mileage on
the swap-in speedo head to match the mileage on the one coming out.  Peter.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:49:46 EDT
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Aluminum heads <Gainesville>

, you write:

<< old times 12.420 at 107.83 ,12.444, at107.55, 12.495, at107.07.  new 12.192
at
 112.95, 11.961 at 111.17  11.902 at112.81  11.880 at 112.96          butch >>

Im impressed!

Joe Stackman

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:50:34 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965

The convertible frame is identical to the hardtop frame save for some
additional gusseting to add rigidity and reduce flex.  all dimensions are
the same, all bolt hole locations are the same.  Since the frame rails are
as thick as my old girlfriend's thigh, I wouldn't anticipate too much grief
with the frame, but you could always add some gussets in any suspect area
(like center of X at frame center, where factory added it).  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965


>Karl,
>I'm pretty sure the convertible frames are all boxed from these
>years and hardtop frames are open "C" channels. There are
>probably other differences as well, what exactly I don't know
>since the bodies all need to fit them.
>
>Some history: AO Smith and a couple of other manufacturers
>made these frames for Olds in these years. Each had their
>stamp on the frame, see your chassis service manual for
>more.
>
>66 98 hardtop and 98 convert. frames are supposedly different,
>at least based on both Hollander's and Mitchell's interchange
>guides. What I've never figured out is just how -- my convert is
>a boxed frame with a cross member just below the driver's
>seat.
>
>I'm pretty sure hardtop 98's were boxed frame too.This begs
>the question: what's the difference? I know of a place with a
>2 door hardtop 98 and would love to snag the frame someday
>because mine has >300K miles on it and it is a little loose.
>
>But I wouldn't want to engage in such project unless I knew
>in advance that a) the hardtop frame would fit and b) I'd be
>better off when finished.
>
>thoughts?  Any one done a hardtop to convert. frame switch?
>
>cf
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: KarlAune@aol.com [mailto:KarlAune@aol.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 1998 4:41 AM
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Convertible vs. Hardtop Frames:1965
>>
>>
>>
>> I know this has come up before, more than once.
>> So I'll post it quick.
>>
>> A fellow needs to replace the frame on a Dynamic88 convertible (2dr).
>>
>> Can he use a 2dr hdtp frame instead or is the conv frame reinforced?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> K
>>

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:53:04 EDT
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Some questions

 you write:

<< from 69 to 68 for the hood hinges are a bit different though.  Never
 actually tried it myself. >>

I can verify that,  Yes the hood hinges and the mouting  ARE different between
68 and 69  .  the 68 hinges also dont open as far so mixing a 68 fender on one
side and  a 69 on the other doesnt fly.

Joe Stackman

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:59:19 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: heads   1/8 mile

 old times for 1/8  7.885 at 87.35   7.891 at 87.06  7.951 at 86.64  new
times 1/8
7.596 at 90.26    7.566 at 90.98    7.551 at 91.01             Butch 68
442  post

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:09:51 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Re: Salem Car Show

**************************************************************

I just want to ad a huge "ditto" to all of Jason's comments on the
Salem car show. Wonderful experience for the ultimate car lover.!!
Great time, really good turnout and weather was the utmost. Hope to
see more list members come on over to Salem Va and experience the
evening. Hopefully in a year or so, I can be a willing participant in
the show with my '86 442 instead of just one of the crowd..!! What
are dreams for???????  Nice meeting Jason and Greg and hope we can
get together again and do it again.The only thing lacking wasthe need
for more Olds to show up.!!

later.....
Mike
'86 442
'86 Supreme
'71 Monte


**********************************************************************

> From:          "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>

> Had a great time last night.  Went to the Salem, VA weekly "get together" at
> a "Fast Freddie's" joint with Greg and Mike from the list.  In all, I'd say
> 100-150 cars.  A few Oldsies.  A sha-weet '67 442.  And I mean BEAUTIFUL.
> The plaque said that it was an original owner car and the 455's been bored
> out to 461 cui.  What an awesome ride.  Mike wants that one for Christmas...
                           < Previous message edited>
> All in all, a great show.  Anyone within 50 miles of Salem should seriously
> consider coming down next weekend.  We might get a small Olds group going in
> the parking lot there.
>
> Jason Adcock




 "The best way to predict the future is to create it...."

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:51:19 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hood Springs

In a message dated 98-08-30 09:43:23 EDT, you write:

<< We are looking for new hood springs for an "A" body  1968 - 72 Oldsmobile.
>>

<< Doesn't YEAR ONE sell these?  >>


A pretty sad state of affairs when Ch*tty people can build a brand new 1968
Catamaran from the frame out, and I gotta hope that some Ch*tty repro company
actually makes hood hinges for a 1966 (or similar) year Ch*tty 2 in order to
aquire new ones.
(Though the one I got outta the yard works well enough now...)

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:55:57 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Peter Bausch (sp?) was Re: will it work?

In a message dated 98-08-30 08:55:17 EDT, you write:

<< Sorry to come late to this thread.  Is this engine a reman?  Or did this
 thing just puke it's balancer?  If the engine is in the machine shop, the
 reciprocating mass should be balanced with flywheel and balancer on.  If
 this is an otherwise complete engine, in chassis, then a fresh balancer can
 be hung.  Peter. >>

I believe what is needed is willa 307 vib.dmpr worlk on 403.

Karl thinks not.

K

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:30:35 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Anybody have specs for 70 350 2bbl?

I'd just like to see if anyone has some horsepower and torque numbers
for such a unit. That's what my 70 S has been nicknamed, "The Unit".


- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl)
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl)
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl)
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl)
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:03:16 EDT
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Peter Bausch (sp?) was Re: will it work?

In a message dated 98-08-30 12:58:11 EDT, you write:

<< I believe what is needed is willa 307 vib.dmpr worlk on 403.

 Karl thinks not. >>

     I already know that a damper from a High Performance (442, Hurst) 307 IS
the same as a 403 damper. However, I have a standard 307 damper, and am
wondering what harm this would do, except more felt vibration.  Dorian

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:05:09 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: heads   1/8 mile

In a message dated 98-08-30 12:02:16 EDT, you write:

<<  old times for 1/8  7.885 at 87.35   7.891 at 87.06  7.951 at 86.64  new
 times 1/8
 7.596 at 90.26    7.566 at 90.98    7.551 at 91.01             Butch 68
 442  post  >>

You prolly posted this before, but what is the diameter of the primaries in
your headers.
(if you run headers)
I am just trying to get an idea of where the peak of your torque curve is.

TIA

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:09:13 EDT
From: BADBO21791@aol.com
Subject: 1984 hurst olds

I WOULD LIKE SOME INFO ON OLDS PARTS ...THANKS

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:13:17 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Misc. Olds Stuff for Sale

In a message dated 98-08-30 10:14:15 EDT, you write:

<< '57 Olds builder engine $300. May hang on to the JetAway trans.??? >>

I anticipate bulding a 371 (it is a 371, right??) for an ongoing J-2 project.

(I plan on putting J-2 371 into an early f-85 2dr!)
As this is going to be more of a "hot rod" the correct transmission is not
necessary.
I will prolly opt for TH-400 anyway.

So:
What do you mean by "builder" engine, and where are you located?

Perhaps I should mention.
I can get a 371 from a yarde that is only 2 hours away.
Prolly more work on that as it has sat long.
But then Mebbe I'll consider that a spare!

Thanks!

Karl Aune
KarlAune@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:13:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Some questions

- ---Stakin@aol.com wrote:
>
>  you write:
>
> << from 69 to 68 for the hood hinges are a bit different though.
Never
>  actually tried it myself. >>
>
> I can verify that,  Yes the hood hinges and the mouting  ARE
different between
> 68 and 69  .  the 68 hinges also dont open as far so mixing a 68
fender on one
> side and  a 69 on the other doesnt fly.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------Not
trying to make you mad Stan-------------
- ------------------------------------------------------
Prolly get flamed for this,but here goes anyway...

- ----So you're basically telling us you've never learned how to drill
holes? :) And if it's a show car,never heard of filler....or a
welder...come on guys,that's ONE of the things hot rodding was built
on....Neccessity is the mother of Invention....and yes sometimes it
CAN be a mother@$#%^&  :)
   I did it on mt 69 drivers fender...just use the 69 fender to make a
template,careful measurements here...transfer to the other
side(opposite direction)
drill holes,if youre really concerned about"original" look, your nut
can be welded it the inside of the fender(I did),and all is
good.....or you can always mortgage your house for some NOS ones....
        My .02,
               John
==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:17:57 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: 2 bbl to 4 bbl Conversions; Whad'ya think?

In a message dated 98-08-28 19:13:05 EDT, you write:

<< Karl - I've still got the 2 bbl intake manifold, carb and air cleaner from
 my '71 Cutlass 350.  Any interest?  Peter.  >>

Karl just realized.

This is prolly DualJet, right?

Uh-Uh.

Karl looking for 2G, 2GC, 2GV carbs.
'sides, Dualjet prolly not fit my car!

Thanks anyway!

K

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:19:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Engine ID

Not on the list, respond to sollyd@mediaone.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Sal DiMaio <sollyd@mediaone.net>
Subject: Engine ID

Hi there:
I have a 71 cutlass Supreme conv. that I purchased 2 years ago. This
summer I blew a head gasket (350). When I pulled the heads, I notice the
coolant ports aren't all the same as the ports on the block. (About half
of the block ports exist on the heads) Should this be a concern? Do I
have the right heads. According to the Oldsmobile Mail List Server
Community, the heads are off a '73 - 350. I can identify the casting on
the block as 395582 but cannot see (no stamp) the number on the block to
tell if its the original block but the block is GOLD in color (71 - 350
block color).
I CAN see the oil fill stamp and it does NOT match but I know the oil
fill is not always accurate. So finally I come to the question. Do I get
heads for a 71 - 350? OR... Do I get these heads machined? I also read
the casting on the intake and it reads 411990 but has OLDSMOBILE raised
letters. Is this the correct manifold? Please help!

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:18:55 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Peter Bausch (sp?) was Re: will it work?

Say whut?
- -----Original Message-----
From: KarlAune@aol.com <KarlAune@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 12:58 PM
Subject: Peter Bausch (sp?) was Re: will it work?


>In a message dated 98-08-30 08:55:17 EDT, you write:
>
><< Sorry to come late to this thread.  Is this engine a reman?  Or did this
> thing just puke it's balancer?  If the engine is in the machine shop, the
> reciprocating mass should be balanced with flywheel and balancer on.  If
> this is an otherwise complete engine, in chassis, then a fresh balancer
can
> be hung.  Peter. >>
>
>I believe what is needed is willa 307 vib.dmpr worlk on 403.
>
>Karl thinks not.
>
>K

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:28:48 EDT
From: Edokuhl@aol.com
Subject: Re: Anybody have specs for 70 350 2bbl?

my 73 delta 350 2bbl  is at 160 hp as for tourque well maybe 225-250

                                      edo

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:36:12 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Re: heads   1/8 mile

They are 1 7/8 ,  do you know something thet I should?

KarlAune@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 98-08-30 12:02:16 EDT, you write:
>
> <<  old times for 1/8  7.885 at 87.35   7.891 at 87.06  7.951 at 86.64  new
>  times 1/8
>  7.596 at 90.26    7.566 at 90.98    7.551 at 91.01             Butch 68
>  442  post  >>
>
> You prolly posted this before, but what is the diameter of the primaries in
> your headers.
> (if you run headers)
> I am just trying to get an idea of where the peak of your torque curve is.
>
> TIA
>
> SOM
> &KA

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:44:00 EDT
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: 86 Salon overheating update..........3

In a message dated 8/29/98 11:08:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ithefunki@cchat.com writes:

<<
 Why a 6 Blade if you don't mind my asking, and what style?  Triangular
 blades, or flat bigger type blades?  Mine's got a flat bigger bladed
 fan, not recommended for over 4000 RPM (My WOT shift point anyway),
 sounds like a Turbo 5.0
 - >>
My fan clutch was bad, so I went w/it instead. Your right, it does sound like
sh*t. Im gonna try a fan clutch again....I found a 6 blade alum fan for a fan
clutch the other day. Not sure where its from. Bought Prestones chem flush,
doing it today. Will keep ya updated,
Bernie

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