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looking for "perfect 10" plate
Re: 85 442 Performance
CC-IROC-SS Site.
Re: door jamb bolt
Re: The Goat Guy in OK (Was Re: Oldsmobile Resto...)
Re: looking for "perfect 10" plate
Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?
Re: Check your vents
Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?
Olds Survey
Re: Olds Survey
Re: 442 W30 Delta
Re: Disc brake upgrade
Florida BOP event
Re: 403 heads..best?
List of things I think are wrong
Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?
Grille restoration
Re: Rear Springs
Car Craft G-Body Article
Re: 85 442 Performance
Re: Disc brake upgrade
Re: Parts
Re: Rear Springs
Re: olds manuals
RE: 70-72 442 Black Dash Pad
tires
Re: 403 heads..best?...alum int.
here is any easy question
Re: value of 66 Delta 88 4 door?
re:olds survey
Re: List of things I think are wrong
Re: Cam Bearing Spun??
Re: tires
Re: open element air cleaner
Re: tank size
re:olds survey
Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?
Re: Olds Survey
Re: tank size
of carpets and consoles
Re: of carpets and consoles
Re: Air cleaners
RE: tires
Re: Disc brake upgrade( Go Joe !)
Olds At Top .... Tied With (puke, puke) T*y*ta
HEY!  Need a g-body s*bsciber!
Re: Olds Survey
[none]
76 Delta 88
Re: 1985 307 w/200 4R tranny
Re: Olds Survey
Radiator Replacement
Re: 70 442 AND PARTS FOR SALE
re:olds survey
Re: Olds Survey
Re: Radiator Replacement
Aluminized Exhuast System
Re: Aluminized Exhuast System
Re: Radiator Replacement
The severe knocking/pinging solution!

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:25:24 EST
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: looking for "perfect 10" plate

Hey list I've been looking all over for a "oldsmobile 442 the perfect ten"
plate to put on the front of my olds tower(97 F250 4x4) so that i can make it
a little better off and make it think that it is a oldsmobile. Thats what it
really wants, it told me.... ha ha no i don't need to be commited. Anyone have
a spare or know of where i can get one. If so please let me know Thanks Chris

CHRIS SOMMERVILLE
69 442SC
70 442HC (FOR SALE)
70 W31
AND A FEW MORE PARTS FOR SALE!!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:33:30 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: 85 442 Performance

>    I have an '85 442 w/a 307 & a 200 4R tranny. What engine modifications
>can I make in order to get more HP without spending a fortune?
>


Frank -

Your 85 442 is already pretty much maxed out for a 307:
a) You have a respectable cam (.440 lift)
b) 442's came with not-too-shabby 3.73 gears
c) the 85 still had 5A heads (the better 307 heads)
d) factory cat-back dual exhaust
e) dual snorkle air cleaner

Yes you an improve on any of these. Cams are available from lots of sources.
Bigger exhaust might help a little but not major. Gears definitely, but rear
ends aren't cheap. The Edlebrock 3711 intake will fit that motor, about
$200.

What else? Porting & polishing heads?.....TRW makes 9.5:1 pistons for
it.....

For the money, swapping a 350 in there is the best overall improvement you
can make. You can even keep the computer controls. People on this list have
done it. After that the sky's the limit. As long as you're willing to part
with your first-born...

drc

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:37:22 -0500
From: "<GJC> Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: CC-IROC-SS Site.

Hello all.

I am making broadly available to both lists, the CC-IROC-SS site. The site
is fledgling and undergoing regular changes as I write more info to be
included. A second "detail" photo shoot will be completed soon and included
in the site there after. While the sites scans aren't great, you can get a
feel for the IROC-SS project/offering.

I am offering this pre-view site release to both lists at this time. Austin
has also posted the link on G-body.org. Take a look. Make suggestions,
offers of graphic help accepted. Send flames/praise personally please
mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com. Let's not clog the lists with this thread.

The site should go public on Friday Nov. 2nd. A lot of work needs take
place. It will get much better as it expands and better, more detail scans
are posted...

Couse Custom Cutlass,
'86 CC-IROC-SS-#1 = "Quincy"
http://members.tripod.com/~cousecustoms/

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   G.J.C
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:25:27 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: door jamb bolt

In a message dated 10/26/98 9:21:47 PM EST, rocco0@home.com writes:

<< It's Rocco Vita From Woodbridge, Ontario, Canada. The bolt that was
 stripted if it is the striker pin buy a new piece. But if the new piece
 does not thread properly the plate inside the door post will need to be
 replaced od retapped. >>

What ended up happening was that the hole in the door jamb was rotted thus
rendering tightening the bolt ineffective. As a quick fix, I cut a length of
steel brace, drilled a hole to accommodate the bolt, and secured it to the
frame. It works great, but looks like h*ll. I guess I'll have to weld
something in its place.
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:38:31 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Goat Guy in OK (Was Re: Oldsmobile Resto...)

I've used him for a rear bumper and window innards. The parts were fine.
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv,

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:34:02 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: looking for "perfect 10" plate

> Hey list I've been looking all over for a "oldsmobile 442 the
> perfect ten" plate
[...]
> Anyone have a spare or know of where i can get one.

Yes, the Volo Auto Museum (http://www.volocars.com/) has that
in their bookstore; I saw it a couple weeks ago. Their number
is (815) 385-3644.

- -- Andy

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:40:25 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?

> My good friend went to look at a 69 Cutlass. The original
> owner said it was a rare option. It had Cutlass emblems and
> GMO emblems on both fenders.  It was not a W-31   It did
> have a 350 in it   and it also had (check this out) Red
> inner wheel wells in the REAR.

That doesn't sound original; the front red ones were plastic,
IIRC. What you saw there must have been painted by somebody...?
Not my area of expertise, though, so I'm staying out of that.

The "GMO" reference probably refers to the "Gallant Men of
Olds" advertising jingle from that era; they had "GMO" dealer
option packages which included custom emblems, and it sounds
like you've found one.

This sounds similar to the "Six Knights of Olds" dealer packages
seen on cars in the south and west. What part of the country is
this in? I'm guessing either the Midwest or New England areas.

- -- Andy

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:45:26 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Check your vents

> The knockout was still in tact and the key had some black overspray
> on it. It must've inadvertantly been dropped into the duct sometime
> during assembly.

Well, the painting process occurs long before the key ever appears.
Perhaps the steering column was replaced at some time? Does its color
match the overspray on the key? Having had two theft repairs done
after thieves broke the steering column on my cars, I know they'll
paint the replacement parts (collar and shift bowl) to match, and
perhaps the key caught a little paint at that time...?

- -- Andy

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:55:20 +0000
From: MB0 <MB0@americancentury.com>
Subject: Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?

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I'm no expert by any means, but the description sounds a little fishy.
Sounds like the owner might be trying to sell  the "Gullible Moron
Option."

just my 2 cents - maybe less


Mike Baugher
69 Cutlass S convertible

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:22:15 -0500
From: CCAC Network User cgc74 <cgc74@unix1.ccac.edu>
Subject: Olds Survey

Auto Web is conducting a survey of the best cars built at thier website.
Don't forget to vote Olds.  Fans of those other cars won't know what hit
them when they see Olds results rocket ahead(pun intended)
go show your support for Olds at:
http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi

- -Chris Carlson

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:33:28 -0800
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Olds Survey

CCAC Network User cgc74 wrote:

> http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi

C'mon and vote.  Oldsmobiles are at 1%

- --
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:49:28 EST
From: MegaDelta@aol.com
Subject: Re: 442 W30 Delta

Well, I'd go for a metallic silver.  That really accents your chrome if it's
in good shape.  Or maybe a glossy black w/ red pinstripes.  With the black,
you could do a little dechroming...  But blue sounds good too.

- ---------------------------------
Joe Sherbanenko
Burnsville, MN
G-body List and general email go to- jcrash7@aol.com
Olds list email- megadelta@aol.com
http://members.tripod.com/~jcrash7
ICQ#- 4856181
- ---------------------------------

> I am thinking metallic blue with silver stripes (any other
>  suggestions)

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:52:09 -0600
From: bloom9@juno.com (CHARLES F KEMP)
Subject: Re: Disc brake upgrade

Brian, you're are correct, Joe Padavano is a guru. Since I save almost
all his posts here is the one you need.

Mike,

Ken Snyder has some good ideas about adapting stock car parts for the
street.  Here are some alternatives designed for street use.

HO Racing went belly up a few years back.  Their F-car spindle conversion
did two things for the A-body.  First, it was a way to adapt 11" disc
brakes which were relatively plentiful.  Second, the F-car spindles are
3/4" taller than the A-body spindles, which results in a change to the
roll
center of the car and a corresponding improvement in handling.
Unfortunately, when using the stock A-body control arms as HO Racing did,
you quickly run out of shim adjustment for camber.  The upper arm shafts
end up very far inboard, and while yours cleared your 350, they likely
won't clear a 455 or headers.  In addition, you're putting one heck of a
bending load on those bolts that retain the shaft to the frame.  The
aftermarket offset shafts help this somewhat, but it still is not the
ideal
solution.

As you've pointed out, Hotchkis sells tubular upper control arms which
are
designed to correct this problem.  These arms are shorter than stock to
accommodate the taller spindles.  Global West also sells a similar
product,
however in my opinion the Global West parts are much stronger and better
made.  I bought these for my 66.  Note that either company's A-arms allow
you to use the F-body or B-body spindles.  Both are the same height and
use
the same ball joints, however the B-body spindles are available with 11"
or
12" discs, whereas the F-body parts only came with the 11" brakes.
Calipers are the same.  Note that while the B-body rotors use the 5 x 5"
lug bolt pattern, the F-car rotors use the same 5 x 4 3/4" bolt pattern
as
the A-bodies.  The good news is that the F-car rotors can be used on the
B-car spindles, and the 91 Z/28 with the 1LE brakes actually used 12"
rotors.  Thus, you can get the correct size rotors with the correct bolt
pattern from any parts store.  The only problem is that these 91 rotors
use
metric lugs, so you'll need to replace them with the usual 7/16" A-body
lugs.

Again, as you've correctly pointed out, the conversion requires different
ball joints.  Both companies' kits include the upper ball joint with the
arms, new lower ball joints machined to fit in your stock lower arms, and
new outer tie rod ends (that taper is different too).  The other thing is
the bushing type.  Hotchkis pushes their polyurethane bushings, while
Global West hawks their Del-A-Lum, which are solid aluminum with a Delrin
plastic liner for compliance.  Either kit can also be obtained with stock
rubber bushings.  I've heard of problems with the urethane bushings, so I
went with the Del-A-Lum.  I was obviously concerned with running a solid
aluminum bushing on the street, however after seeing the parts, I think I
made the correct choice.  The bushings are machined with lubrication
passages, and the Delrin liner does provide compliance and squeak
resistance.  Unfortunately, the car is a ways from being roadworthy, so I
can't tell you how they work.

Finally, your question about simply remachining the spindle taper is a
good
one, however the problem is the need for a special tapered cutter to get
the correct hole geometry.  Still, it seems that a cutter would be
cheaper
than the fabricated arms and specially machined ball joints.  Oh well.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

Fred Kemp (bloom9@juno.com

On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:48:38 -0600 Brian Ammons
<b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu> writes:
>At 10:46 PM 10/27/98 , you wrote:
>>Mike,
>>
>>Ken Snyder has some good ideas about adapting stock car parts for the
>>street.  Here are some alternatives designed for street use.
>
>(SNIP OF EXACTLY 554 HIGHLY INTELLIGENT WORDS OF INSIGHT INTO DISC
>BRAKE
>CONVERSIONS)
>
>>
>>Joe Padavano
>>padavano.joe@orbital.com
>>
>>66 442
>>68 W-30
>>69 H/O
>>69 442
>>70 W-30
>>
>
>Does anyone else on this list ever wonder exactly how the hell Joe got
>to
>be so smart?  I read this post, and all I could say was..."Damn".
>
>This is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of why the list reply-to default needs to
>stay
>exactly the way it is.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:02:01 -0600 (CST)
From: gnenad@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Florida BOP event

Just want to let Olds owners know about the 6th Annual Florida Finals at 
Orlando
Speedworld on 12-12-98 which is open to all BOP(Buick, Olds, Pontiac) cars and
BOP powered cars.  For more info on this event please visit
http://www.netcom.com/~gnenad .  Thanks and see you there!

George Nenadovich
Buick Performance Club
http://www.buickperformance.com
BuickPerformance List Founder&Moderator

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:06:14 -0500
From: "Frederick S. Nissen" <FSNissen@Worldnet.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: 403 heads..best?

SNIP
> was there ever a 403 with an aluminum intake stock?
  kinda funny how the 260 engines had
> intakes made out of aluminum!  if it was cheaper to use aluminum, why in the
> heck didnt they just make all the intakes out of aluminum???


As far as I know, no 403 came with a factory aluminum intake.

Aluminum was more expensive than cast iron.  The use of aluminum and
other light weight materials in the late '70s and early 80s was largely
dictated by the EPA regs then in force.  EPA tested the cars to
determine their estimated fuel efficeincy using a rather bizarre method
which analyzed tailpipe emissions rather than fuel actually used from
the tank.  A significant part of the formula was vehicle weight.  The
weight class was used rahter than actual weight.  These jumped in
intervals of 200 lbs or so.  Getting bumped from one class to another on
a particular car could make enough difference (especially if it sold
well) in the aggregate fuel economy numbers to earn the corporation a
hefty fine at the end of the model year for non compliance with CAFE.
Thus the willingness of bean counters and engineers to spend $$ on
aluminum hoods, intakes, bumper reinforcements, etc. all in an effort to
save enough pounds to keep a particular model from being kicked up a
weight class.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:10:41 EST
From: MegaDelta@aol.com
Subject: List of things I think are wrong

Hey list,

I just lost a half a quart of oil for running the car for 10 minutes
yesterday!  I'm exited..

Anyway, let me say what I think is wrong with it, in order of my noticing.  I
will also give my evidence.

- -1.  Transmission Problem.  I've known this for a while, not sure what 
exactly
is wrong.  I do know I have a bad seal, and I hear the grinding noise it
makes.

- -2.  Blown Headgasket(s). White smoke from exhaust pipe, loss of oil.  I 
don't
think the engine is burning oil, although I did smell oil, I think the oil
might be leaking out, because wouldn't the exhaust be a blueish color if it
was burning oil?

- -3.  Timing Off.  When I ran it, the engine made the car shake VIOLENTLY, and
when the hood was up, it shook from side to side so bad...

- -4.  Smoke coming from where you add the oil to the engine.  Maybe it IS
burning oil, how do I know...

- -5.  MEGA spring sag.  Over the last couple of months, they've made the car
maybe 4 to 5 inches lower.  Makes the car look meaner, so I won't bother
fixing that for a while.

Ok, I'd like to run this engine for a while longer, but what do I expect with
175,000 miles?  I now have a service garage I can use to do an engine/tranny
swap (I was going to swap the tranny anyway) over the winter.  I'm not sure
whether I want another 307 (for the fuel economy, not great, but better than
BB), or maybe I'll step up to a 403 or maybe a 350.  If I got a 307, I'd
definitely get a VIN 9 one.  I'll get a better rear end hopefully, and then
maybe some dual exhaust.  But the reason I wrote this email is that I'm
thinking of junking this car, and starting over with my dream car, a mid 80's
Cutlass.

Looking forward to opinions,
- ---------------------------------
Joe Sherbanenko
Burnsville, MN
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Olds list email- megadelta@aol.com
http://members.tripod.com/~jcrash7
ICQ#- 4856181
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:14:17 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?

Hey Andy,

Thanks.

I figured it was a dealer option.          The car is in Minnisota.


Thanks again

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:10:19 -0400
From: "Brian Smith" <smithclan@sprint.ca>
Subject: Grille restoration

I did the same tedious job a few years ago. The closest match for paint is
Krylon  Dull Aluminum #1403. - Spray the entire grille and let it set for
about a day so the silver won't dissolve when you brush in the black. Yes ,
it is a job for the kitchen table and when your patience is at it's best. I
also used Krylon - semi-flat black for the recessed areas.
It's a bit of an art, flowing the right amount of black in the areas without
allowing the black to run up too high on the sides. Results are worth it as
the front of the car looks much fresher, as when it was new.
 Good luck!  Don't know of any other way.

Brian Smith
1971 SX

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:12:16 -0000
From: "Mike Druger" <mdruger@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Springs

I bought springs, KYB shocks and PolyGraphite bushings for the front and
rear suspension on my '71 Cutlass S from PST.  I am very happy with the
ride.   Drives like a new car, except for some new bushing squeaks.  But,
don't believe the video they sell about how easy it is to pull the bushings.

You Wrote:

...Has anyone bought the springs that pst sells?  A
>friend of mine bought his stock type from Year One and had no problems.
>Has anyone used "so called high performance springs on there olds?  What
>would be the best brand of shocks.  It is my street ride so I don't need
>drag shocks.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:54:41 -0600
From: "Austin Schroeger" <austin@lsol.net>
Subject: Car Craft G-Body Article

For those of you who don't subscribe to Car Craft, There is a Link on
www.g-body.org under the links section to go to a web page where the entire
article was scanned in.  It can be printed from there

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:21:54 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: 85 442 Performance

>For the money, swapping a 350 in there is the best overall improvement you
>can make. You can even keep the computer controls. People on this list have
>done it. After that the sky's the limit. As long as you're willing to part
>with your first-born...


The 350 is definitely my recommendation.  You can always keep the 307 in a
little corner in garage or yard (covered up of course) in case you want to
restore/sell the car.  The performance/dollar would be better with the 350.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:24:17 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: Disc brake upgrade

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</DIV>
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    <DIV>which has a taller spindle which improves front end geometry =
and</DIV>
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to do=20
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    <DIV>with my 68 Supreme but don't know and can't find a way to =
contact</DIV>
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which=20
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    <DIV>you have the spindles machined for the earlier taper and just =
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:37:21 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: Parts

uh I think you are very confused they have never been in VA they were in St
Joseph Missouri then they moved to stillwell Kansas where they are now this
is Brothers Automotive they do sell quality merchandise at not unreasonable
prices however they dont seem to deliver in a timely manner I live near the
place so I will go there to pick up my parts
that way I dont have to deal with shipping.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Todd <todd@wvadventures.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: Parts


>At 09:54 AM 10/27/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>Has anyone ever ordered from the website www.oldsparts.com? Curious if
>>they are a reliable source.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Del
>>
>Del,
>yes i have i got right and left rear 1/4 and tons of little things and also
>carpet but the shipping of the rear 1/4 was so high i drove down to
>Virginia and picked them up my self...thinking they had a show room or
>something well when i got there i could`nt find the place at first then
>found it it was a little old building with a cardboard sign duct taped to
>the window went in and 3 guys on phones and the place had papers junk trash
>laying all around also had used olds parts all over but as for the  parts
>that i got they were great just not what i had expected .
>
>Todd
>72 cutlass supreme
>>
>>
>>
>>==
>>Rock-Man's Page
>>http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
>>1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass "S"
>>1986 Honda Accord DX
>>
>>_________________________________________________________
>>DO YOU YAHOO!?
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>>
>>
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:53:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Springs

I bought new rear springs for my 69 Cutlass about a year and a half
ago. They were the stock springs and I got them from a local auto
parts store that actually stocked them.




- ---jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good Question, i am going to change my springs and shocks on my 72
> cutlass supreme soon.  Has anyone bought the springs that pst sells?
 A
> friend of mine bought his stock type from Year One and had no
problems.
> Has anyone used "so called high performance springs on there olds?
What
> would be the best brand of shocks.  It is my street ride so I don't
need
> drag shocks.
>
> >
> >
> >I am getting new rear springs on my 72 Supreme this weekend.
> >Questions tho, because Im looking for a slightly stiffer ride.
> >1. Is there a difference between 442 springs and regular Cutlass
> springs.
> >2. Will 442 springs fit on my supreme.
> >3. Is there a different set of springs for a Supreme.
> >4. what is the feasibility of Station Wagon springs?
>
>
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1986 Honda Accord DX

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:03:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: olds manuals

Jukka,

Check with a place called "Automobilia" They may have a shop manual
for you. That'w where I found mine for my 69 Olds. The number is (904)
737-8600 or toll free (800) 997-7998

Del




- ---Jukka Kujala <oldsmo88@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> Has anyone got shop manual for full-size 1963 oldsses or place where
can
> I find it?
>
> Jukka
>
>
>
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>

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1986 Honda Accord DX

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:07:09 -0800
From: "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net>
Subject: RE: 70-72 442 Black Dash Pad

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be knowledgeable about Oldsmobile parts and was able to get me my door =
panel for my 75 and a armrest bases for my 70, he also filled me in on =
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Bruce
70 Delta 88 Conv.
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:40:44 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: tires

Anyone know the largest tire I can put on my car without modifing thew wheel
wells.
I now have 235 70's. I'd like 255 60's or 295's. would they fit?
Tia
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:44:33 EST
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: 403 heads..best?...alum int.

In a message dated 10/28/98 11:07:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
FSNissen@Worldnet.ATT.NET writes:

<<
 As far as I know, no 403 came with a factory aluminum intake.
  >>
Just to clear things up, it has an aftermarket intake.
Bernie

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:53:39 EST
From: RICH6986@aol.com
Subject: here is any easy question

I have a couple of rims for my cutlass they are chrome black centers and one
of them is a little rusty I was wondering if you can repaint the chrome,
before i wanted out and just bought another one      			
TIA
												
Rich

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:15:15 PST
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: value of 66 Delta 88 4 door?

Anyone know the range of values for a 66 Delta 88 4 door with a 425 Hi
Comp? From mint to poor? Only has 41K miles.
Thanks

Jason Labay  Akron, OH jlabay@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/jlabay
===================================================================

Hi Jason,

I have a '66 Delta88 Celebrity 4-door Sedan.  I love it.  It drives
great.  Mine has about 100K and still in fair shape.

If the car is in good shape--daily driver with decent body it should be
between $600-800  low end and $2000 on the high end.  If it is between
daily driver and immaculate--$2000-$4500.  And upward to $7500 for
excellent.

More accurate prices can be found in Old Car Price Guide.  I have a
Spring issue, but not handy at the moment.

Feel free to e-mail me, if you have any questions about the '66D-88.  I
will help you if I can.

Happy Cruisin',

Chris Rivier
'66 Delta 88...The BEAST is BACK!
'88 Festiva...ZIPPY 166K and dead.  Savin' up for a tranny.


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:42:38 EST
From: RICH6986@aol.com
Subject: re:olds survey

>http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi
>C'mon and vote.  Oldsmobiles are at 1%

oldsmobiles are up to 7% tied w/ ch*vy everyone must vote. them toy*ta and
hond* things are in the lead with 13%.   We cant let that happen.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:52:44 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: List of things I think are wrong

With all those problems I would get rid of the engine and tranny.  307 can
do way more then 175,000 miles, so I don't know what is wrong with yours.
If your body and interior is in good shape, DONT get rid of that car.  I
have a '81 Delta 4-door that I put the 455 and th400 in as well as 3.23 rear
end.  I too wanted my dream "80s" Cutlass.  I like the Cutlasses, however I
drove a few when my friend was buying a car (he did buy a '86 Cutlass
Salon).  My Delta has the F-41 suspension as well as big 255/60/15 tires all
around.  Even driving the F-41 Cutlasses, one 442 and a few normal
cutlasses, I came to the conclusion that none handled, rode or had as much
room/comfort as my Delta.  Now, with the 455, dual exhaust, big tires and
Cragar SS rims (and a new coming paint job) my Delta looks much better then
most Cutlasses around.  Not to mention that I could leave most of them in my
dust.  Granted, a good, worked on Cutlass with a 455 will blow me away
(lighter car), but they are rare.  However, I have not seen a '80s Delta
that was turned into a hot rod.  This is Original and cool.  If, however,
the body and rest of the stuff is trashed, get a Cutlass.  Put a 455 in one
of those, 3.73 rear gears and good tires.  You would be the
king-of-the-hill.

Igor Todorovic

1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)
1981 Regency (307/200-4r/propane)

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:52:12 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Re: Cam Bearing Spun??

Peter Landowski wrote:

> What would cause a cam bearing to spin and seize itself to the cam journal
> itself? This is on a 455 and on the middle cam journal.
>
> Pettrix@prodigy.net

could be oiling problem, bearing could be too tight not allowing enough oil to
get between bearing and cam journal

i spun a bearing on my drag motor on the 2nd pull on the dyno but the engine
builder said it was because of the 700 pound springs for the .714" lift cam
and stock hardness bearings. he sent me some cryogenic (frozen to make them
much harder) bearings to solve the problem

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:56:11 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: tires

I have 255/60/15 BFG on my '81 Delta 88.  I am sure that 275/60 would fit no
problem.  Also, 295/50s might fit.  The '76 Delta I had I believe would fit
the same, if not more.

Igor Todorovic

1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)
1981 Regency (307/200-4r/propane)

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:02:41 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Re: open element air cleaner

Rock Man wrote:

> Since we are on the subject of this, what does everyone think of the
> K&N air filter cover they have out? I saw it once in Summit I believe.
> It replaces the air cleaner top. To me it seems like a good idea since
> the air is being sucked in from the top now. Am I wrong?
>

sounds like a good idea to me, i think i am going to try it out

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:11:59 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Re: tank size

David Seiver - Account Executive wrote:

> Can anyone tell me the size or capacity of mt gas tank?
> 1967 cutless f85
>

16 gallons i believe

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:19:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: re:olds survey

Can you vote more then once? I already put in my vote for Olds, but if
I can vote again, I will go back daily if I have to! We gotta show em
that the Oldsmobiles aren't going to go unnoticed!




- ---RICH6986@aol.com wrote:
>
> >http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi
> >C'mon and vote.  Oldsmobiles are at 1%
>
> oldsmobiles are up to 7% tied w/ ch*vy everyone must vote. them
toy*ta and
> hond* things are in the lead with 13%.   We cant let that happen.
>

==
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http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass "S"
1986 Honda Accord DX

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:27:04 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: anyone here ever hear of a 69 Cutlass GMO?

> I'm no expert by any means, but the description sounds a little
> fishy. Sounds like the owner might be trying to sell the "Gullible
> Moron Option."

No, no, it really did exist and I don't doubt that he is looking at
a real one; it's just that it's not exactly sought-after in the same
manner as, say, a W-30 or W-31. There may well have been only 1600
made, or whatever that number was, but that was only because enough
dealers chipped in to have 1600 Cutlasses optioned and stickered as
"GMO" editions. I'm pretty sure the GMO thing carried on through at
least 1974 here in the Chicago area.

- -- Andy


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:48:28 -0800
From: "John Young" <realtorjohn@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Survey

I voted, did you?? Olds@10% and counting...rice rockets i.e. H*nd* & T*y*t*
at 12%. Go get 'em.
realtorjohn@sprynet.com
69 442 W-32

- ----------
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>

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:02:29 -0500
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: tank size

My 67 Cutlass has an 18 gallon tank....

art

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:00:32 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: of carpets and consoles

List,
        I am continuing my interior work.  The car was converted to a
console
shifted TH400. How did the factory work the carpet around the shifter ???
carpet down first - shifter on top - cut the carpet to fit ????


Tanks
The General

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:12:03 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: of carpets and consoles

 How did the factory work the carpet around the shifter ???
carpet down first - shifter on top - cut the carpet to fit ????
____________

Shifter wants to be bolted directly to the metal floor pan.  The carpet is
cut to fit around the shifter later.  The console goes on after that and
covers the edges.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:20:18 +0000
From: "Joe Gerschutz" <gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu>
Subject: Re: Air cleaners

Hey guys, sorry to bring up this air cleaner thread one more time,
but I was looking up K&N on the net, and came  across a UK page that
listed lower fuel consumption as a result of K&N. After reading all
the previous threads on this subject,  I wrote them about this and
got this reply.  Maybe you guys could write him and give the
technical reasons.  Then again I was probably wrong in the first
place.  Thanks. Joe
Heres the reply:

>Hello,
>Your recent email to one of our UK dealers has been forwarded onto
>me at K&N Filters (Europe) Ltd.
>Can you please explain exactly why a K&N Filter will cause increased
>fuel consumption?
>I look forward to your reply.

>Regards

>Chris Smith <kn@kn.u-net.com>
>K&N Filters
>******************************************
>Chris Smith
>Marketing Supervisor
>K&N Filters (Europe) Ltd. England
>******************************************

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:08:26 -0500
From: "<GJC> Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: tires

I have 235-60-15" and 255-60-15" on CC-IROC-SS-#1. I wouldn't go any larger
as this rigid suspension develops maxim tire flex. I've never touched down a
tire and they are in the tire well. A fact that even one size larger would
prove a hard cornering touch down of the sidewall.

- -----Regards,

   G.J.C
Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs
ICQ# 5209322
518-622-0376
mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com

Couse Custom Cutlass,
'86 CC-IROC-SS-#1 = "Quincy"
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- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of JonKrisInc@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 3:41 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: tires


Anyone know the largest tire I can put on my car without modifing thew wheel
wells.
I now have 235 70's. I'd like 255 60's or 295's. would they fit?
Tia
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:16:54 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Disc brake upgrade( Go Joe !)

           After reading Joe response, i too was impressed. It seems either
some people out here been through the trial and error ( and lots of cash)
method or just plain have access to some great info!!....I have been on the
list for a few weeks now and know this will be helpful when i get another
Cutlass, now that i'll be able to care for one......SCOTT

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:25:09 -0700
From: "Fred Orcutt" <f_m_o@email.msn.com>
Subject: Olds At Top .... Tied With (puke, puke) T*y*ta

We're now in first place on autoweb in the voting for the best made
automobile, at 12% of the total votes cast.  We're a percentage point ahead
of H*nda, but tied with T*y*ta.  Hey, c'mon, these guys bombed Pearl Harbor,
for crissake!

Cast your votes for American steel and muscle, at:

http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:32:43 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: HEY!  Need a g-body s*bsciber!

Hey all!  Could someone who's on the g-body list send me the info for
s*bscribing.  I've switch email accounts and I can't get to my old one
(since my brother took the lap-top to Texas...)  Thatnks!
send it to:  costanzo@netcarrier.com


Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:44:52 -0500
From: Gasman24 <stulk@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Olds Survey

Chris Sparks wrote:
>
> CCAC Network User cgc74 wrote:
>
> > http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi
>
> C'mon and vote.  Oldsmobiles are at 1%
>
 LOL no there not! Just went there and voted we're up to 13% and
leading! Be sure to go there and vote.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:01:55 -0800 (PST)
From: non-ya non-ya <c__b__@yahoo.com>
Subject: [none]

Hey list,
I am just know starting interest into rebuilding old muscle cars, and
would like to start off with a 70 convert. olds 442.  Anyone know
where I can start looking to find one?  I would prefer one that still
runs but not necessary.

Thanks,
cb, south ga








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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:11:57 EST
From: Dan442Olds@aol.com
Subject: 76 Delta 88

Saw this in the local newspaper.  Know nothing more about it. Usual
disclaimers apply.



Oldsmobile
$4,500
1976'76 OLDS Delta 88 Royale - like new classic, Only 20,000 miles,
fully equipped, a/c, new tires, truly amazing! $4,500. Private owner,
806-669-2820

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:23:14 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: 1985 307 w/200 4R tranny

- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve C <cutlass@citlink.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: 1985 307 w/200 4R tranny


>with other various minor improvements . But after the motor was broken in
at
>around 2000 miles in was put on a dyno and we found 292 HP and 345 ft lbs
of
>torque out of the 307.

Rock n' Roll, Steve! A 307 worthy of the Rockets on the wheels!

drc

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:33:18 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Olds Survey

Oldsmobile now in the lead by 2%. This list is awsome in it's power.

drc

Vote at:

http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:47:14 -0800
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Radiator Replacement

Since I'm going to be replacing the waterpump on my 69 Cutlass, and I'll be
moving it to Florida in a few weeks, I'd like to upgrade the radiator at the
same time.
Currently, I have a two row core and a three row will fit with no changes. I
think one of the aluminum versions will fit too but any I've seen have been
outrageously priced.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best way to go: get it re-cored with
a three row at a rad shop, mailorder replacement, or just get one from an
auto supply store. I'm looking for a good price but performance and
availability are the top prioroties. I only get back to Indiana on
occasional weekends so whatever I do, I have to fit it into one weekend.
Thanks in advance.
==============================================
Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:42:45 -0500
From: THOMAS JACQUILLARD <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net>
Subject: Re: 70 442 AND PARTS FOR SALE

SOMMERVLLE@aol.com wrote:
>
> OK list I'm thinning it out and have a few items left and need to move them 
so
> make me some offers and we will work on them. I still have a lot of good 
stuff
> in the yards around here and will act as the middle man (person to be
> politically correct) just let me know. Thanks Chris If you are interested
> please e-mail me privately at
> SOMMERVLLE@AOL.COM  or call (910) 487-1540 home or (910) 396-5420 work ask 
for
> SSG Chris Sommerville (I'm in the Army, located in Fayetteville NC) all parts
> are priced without shipping
> all of this stuff is subject to trade need some 69 442 parts, and always
> looking for another 442.
> MY STUFF
> 1970 442 south carolina car, has some rust and dents but is a solid start. Is
> a bench seat, auto on the column 455 AC car. Has the wrong year 455 in it but
> know where the original 455 is located at. Car has potentialwas green on 
green
> w/ black leather interior. Have pictures and can e-mail on request want $1000
> OBO
>
> ladder bars and mounts for GM A body $75
>
> new 4 core radiator for 68-72 442 used one month $150
>
> flowmaster exhaust from the header collectors to exit behind rear wheels  
good
> shape $75
>
> set of "C" heads pulled off of a running motor I would say that they need to
> be gone through $100
>
> set of "8" heads off of a running motor $75
>
> picking up a 1969 C/S parts car in decent shape has a #5 headed 350 and a
> turbo 400 e-mail for needs
>
> Junkyards, will act as the middle man and I will have to get a price from the
> yard for you.
> 1968 442 some small items no nose has a "C" headed 400 and auto trans 
(Sitting
> for some time)wants about 800 for motor trans and rear
>
> 1966 or 67 F85 (2, one is a post car) and cutlass mostly stripped now some
> parts left
>
> several 1969 and 70-72 cutlass's 2 and 4drs
>
> 1971 442 been stipped inside and doors are gone rest of car in decent shape
>
> several 455's most with G and J heads. one E motor
>
> 2 sets of T-Tops for 1979 and newer cutlass's good shape
>
> several 73-77 cutlass and 442's
>
> TONS of G body stuff in great shape

I have tried three times to send you pictures of my car. They keep
getting sent back with error codes. I guess this server is screwing up
again. It even locked up my in-box. I will try again, but for now I
wanted to find out if we could also strike a deal on that exhaust you
have. I have some local police who do not like the fact that my exhaust
doesn't extend out from under the car. I already have Flowmasters, all I
need is the rear tail pipes. What size is the pipe? LMK, and I have not
heard from the guy about the fender yet.
TTYL, T.J.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:47:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: re:olds survey

Olds is in 1st place, but we still need to get more votes!!





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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:53:04 -0800
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Survey

Olds now at 15%; leading by three. Doesn't this make you feel powerful? :-)
>Vote at:
>
>http://www.autoweb.com/company/horn.awi
==============================================
Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:50:31 -0500
From: "Chris Brown" <Elric@dclink.com>
Subject: Re: Radiator Replacement

Mike,
Last year I upgraded from a 2 to 3 core radiator on my 72 Supreme, I got it
from parts america for about 80 bucks with a lifetime warranty (they had it
in stock).  The car runs alot cooler now, which in turn helped its
performance.  I wasnt in any shape to spend the money on an aluminum one.
They also make 4 core, but I think you have to special order them.

Chris Brown
72 Cutlass Supreme
- -

>
>Since I'm going to be replacing the waterpump on my 69 Cutlass, and I'll be
>moving it to Florida in a few weeks, I'd like to upgrade the radiator at
the
>same time.
>Currently, I have a two row core and a three row will fit with no changes.
I
>think one of the aluminum versions will fit too but any I've seen have been
>outrageously priced.
>Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best way to go: get it re-cored
with
>a three row at a rad shop, mailorder replacement, or just get one from an
>auto supply store. I'm looking for a good price but performance and
>availability are the top prioroties. I only get back to Indiana on
>occasional weekends so whatever I do, I have to fit it into one weekend.
>Thanks in advance.
>==============================================
>Mick Gillespie
>69 Cutlass Conv.
>80 Toronado Brougham
>mgillespie@sprynet.com
>http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
>==============================================
>
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:03:43 -0600
From: texas442 <texas442@flash.net>
Subject: Aluminized Exhuast System

Hello,

This week, the UPS man delivered the Aluminized Exhaust kit that I
ordered for the '71 442.  Can someone tell me how I can confirm that
what I received is indeed "Aluminized"?  The exhaust pipes and mufflers
that I received look like they are plain "bare" steel without any
special finish on them.

Ali

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:08:52 -0800
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Aluminized Exhuast System

Can someone tell me how I can confirm that
>what I received is indeed "Aluminized"?  The exhaust pipes and mufflers
>that I received look like they are plain "bare" steel without any
>special finish on them.


If they are aluminized, they'll have a greyish/silver aluminum color. You
can scrape it off easily with a knife, Plain carbon steel will be much
darker in color.
==============================================
Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
==============================================

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:16:33 -0600
From: Shang <shang@connect.net>
Subject: Re: Radiator Replacement

> Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best way to go: get it re-cored with
> a three row at a rad shop, mailorder replacement, or just get one from an
> auto supply store. I'm looking for a good price but performance and
> availability are the top prioroties.

> Mick Gillespie

What I did was to take my original three core to the local radiator shop
and they re-cored it with a 3-core high efficiency core that is supposed
to be as effective as a 4-core. I didn't have any cooling problems
before, so I did not notice any improvements in cooling. I had this done
because I plan to put in the 455 next year.

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:31:44 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: The severe knocking/pinging solution!

     Today I discovered  the cause for the knocking/pinging sound from my 65
Olds.
It was caused from a faulty Bendix spring in the starter. The spring was
broken , allowing the gear to slide into the flexplate upon acceleration. I
was certain that it was a cracked flexplate or worn u-joints. I first replaced
both the front and rear u-joints. I then replaced the transmission mount( I
saw that it was deteriorated). Next, I tightnened the tourque convertor bolts.
While I was tightening these bolts, I noticed some fresh metal scratches on
the flexplate teeth. I , just outta dumb luck, stuck a screwdriver up into the
opening of the starter and noticed that the gear was free to move back and
forth. BINGO!....I found the problem!
     As a reminder for others...If you own a 330c.i. Olds from 64 to 67 and it
has the 10 1/4:1 compression pistons, the motor requires a hi-tourque starter.
You can tell the difference between a hi-tourque and a "regular" small block
starter by where the copper conductor exits the rear of the starter. It will
be on the end of a extension on the back of the solinoid, if it is a hi-
tourque unit, due the extra windings in the motor.

Collyn
65 Olds

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