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oldsmobile-digest     Wednesday, October 14 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1552



68 442 convertible
Re: Y2K Compliance of onboard computer
RE: Y2K Compliance of onboard computer
Re: Top end down to 95 from 110 :(
Re: finishing a paint job!
UNBOUNCE: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)
UNBOUNCE: Intrigue Reliability Report?
RE: 71-72 core support wanted
Re: finishing a paint job!
Re: 71-72 core support wanted
Re: UNBOUNCE: Intrigue Reliability Report?
Re: 80's Cutlass in a hurter of a movie
Re: parts/car for sale
Re: W30 FS in NY
for sale
Send me pics, privately please!
RE: 71-72 core support wanted
Wide tires on front of A-body
NON-OLDS.  ACTUALLY A FORD.
Re: Wide tires on front of A-body
RE: Wide tires on front of A-body
Re: Top end down to 95 from 110 :(
Keyless entry, non list-exclusive
Re: UNBOUNCE: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)
Re: ADMIN: Olds G-body List?
Re: Olds Weekend
Movie 442
'68 Cutlass project FS (fwd)
Re:  RE: wheel fitment on a g-body
Re:  Movie 442
Re: UNBOUNCE: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)
Re: Wide tires on front of A-body
conv spkrs
Re: Movie 442
UNSUBSCRIBE
How to start a long dormant motor?
RE: 71-72 core support wanted
Re: Olds Weekend
Re: Wide tires on front of A-body
Re: How to start a long dormant motor? 
Re: How to start a long dormant motor?
HBO Movie
Re: How to start a long dormant motor?
Re: HBO Movie
Re: Eibach springs
He Scores!!!
AWESOME SITE
Re: Movie 442
Re: 71-72 core support wanted
Re: HBO Movie
Re: HBO Movie
Re: AWESOME SITE (e-mail to BEN, regarding 455)
Re: Wide tires on front of A-body
J2 Intakes
Re: Movie 442
Re: HBO Movie
Re: Keyless entry, non list-exclusive
Re: '68 Cutlass project FS (fwd)
Re: Eibach springs
Re: HBO Movie
Re: Which tranny in an auto 66 Delta 88?
Re: How to start a long dormant motor?
Re: How to start a long dormant motor?
Re: How to start a long dormant motor?
Re: 14" Wheels
Re: G-body List Merge.
'66 tripower carbs
Re: Tire/Wheel Balance Question
RE: Tire/Wheel Balance Question
Re: Tire/Wheel Balance Question
Re: '68 Cutlass project FS (fwd)
Re: '66 tripower carbs
signing off 'till monday
Re: conv spkrs
'66 Starfire F/S - west of Chicago

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:13:45 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: 68 442 convertible

Hi all,

Did anyone hear anything about that 68 442 in Palmdale, California
selling?
Just curious.
- -- 
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:22:43 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Y2K Compliance of onboard computer

> At most, maybe if you have that ETA onboad-serves-no-real-purpose
> controls that tell you when you get there, you may lose that, I'd
> guess at worse (unlikely), you'll have to unplug the battery 
> sometime early in 2000 If the internal clock somehow fails to 
> rollover and just stops (Not likely, but again is a minor annoyance 
> that is most of the Y2k garbage anyways)

In this morning's email I found a message from my brother-in-law
saying

> Not so funny. Word is that they do not know what will happen to 
> autos built before 1994. If the computer thinks the vehicle hasn't 
> been serviced in 94 years, they aren't certain what the reaction 
> will be.

I sent a reply asking precisely which brand of vehicle that would be,
as the ones I know of calculate service intervals on the basis of 
engine cycles and elapsed time (simple counting from whenever it was
last reset) as opposed to year calculations. He said this came from
one of the guys who volunteer for charity car repair work at the local
church, and he'll ask for further details this evening, when they next
get together. I suppose this will turn out to be largely urban legend,
but it's always interesting to hear what sort of theories are floating
around out there.

- -- Andy

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:28:17 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Y2K Compliance of onboard computer

On Tuesday, October 13, 1998 4:23 PM, Andrew C. Green [SMTP:acg_o@hotmail.com] 
wrote:
>
> > Not so funny. Word is that they do not know what will happen to
> > autos built before 1994. If the computer thinks the vehicle hasn't
> > been serviced in 94 years, they aren't certain what the reaction
> > will be.

If it's anything like my dad's Grand Cherokee, it just counts ~miles~ between 
service, not time. 
 Of course, I'm sure that all systems aren't like this, but it'd probably just 
toss a code that 
said the car needs service -- one of those generic "Check Engine" deals...

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:43:31 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Top end down to 95 from 110 :(

wrong speedometer gear...just a joke!...probably has something to do with
parasitic drag
or something of that nature...just an opinion...

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:56:32 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: finishing a paint job!

I thought so too!!!!!  But, I've seen this done with satisfactory results and
was just looking for information about the technics.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:59:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Pat H <frogs442@yahoo.com>
Subject: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)

I don't know if this post will make it through, but I just have to add
a woman's poit of view. I don't belong to the list, but do read many
of them. I personally have been the proud owner of several Olds and
currently share 3 with John (S-Man). I have been by his side for 6
years now and during that time we have had a 1969, 1982, 1984 and
1985. And we both have spent numerous hours under the hood, inside and
outside the car. I can change my oil, do a tune up, or replace the
carpet or headliner. Being in my mid forties I am a lover of the older
cars as well as the newer. When I learned to drive all those years
ago, my Dad taught me valuable lessons, like how to check oil, fill
the gas tank, listening for things that didn't quite sound right with
the engine. My 21 year old daughter took auto mechanics in high
school, so that she would be able to do these things too. I have known
for a long time when something is wrong what to do, when to go for
service, etc. And am appaled at service technicians talking to me like
I have no idea what they are saying. And I tell them so. 
What I'm getting at here is this list is a world of knowledge not just
for the older cars, but the newer ones. I do think it's a good idea to
have more than one list however. But at the same time, it's a good
idea if you are interested or own more than one year to belong to both
list. Greg does a fantastic job with this one, I'm sure Mark will do
the same with his. I will continue to read the posts as I might see
something that John misses and it could be a big help to me. My dream
car is a 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass Convertible, and some day soon I will
own one, when I do I will already have knowledge that I otherwise
would not have had if it weren't for Oldsmobile Lists.
Thanks for listening.
Pat




==
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http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Froggy.html
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/PatsCar.html
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
http://www.442.com/mcjunkin.html


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:01:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Intrigue Reliability Report?

Not on the list, respond to johnsinc@telusplanet.net if you have info.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	John Sinclair <johnsinc@telusplanet.net>
Subject: 1998 Olds Intrigue GLS

Greetings!

Where would I get a durability report on the 1998 Olds Intrigue? It's been
in production for about 14 months. So far I haven't seen any reports on
reliability, trouble spots and frequency of repair. My provincial
automobile association doesn't have the info.

Magazine write-ups on the Intrigue are good.....but only as far as road
performance, equipment, comfort,and styling are concerned. The car was
introduced in August 1997 as a new 1998 model and, consequently, has no
published durability record.

My problem is essentially a timing problem. Automobile durability reports
for the preceeding model year typically show up in the spring, which in
this case would be March 1999. My plan is to evaluate the 1999 Intrigue
now, based on its 1998 durability record, and hopefully buy the car now
instead of next March. But I dont know anything about its durability and
I'm, consequently, concerned about spending around $30,000 CDN on it. 

Thanks for your h*lp!

John 

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:07:55 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: 71-72 core support wanted

I've always wanted to ask, but I figured someone else would do it for me and
save me the embarrassment.  What the heck is the "core support", and why are
so many people wanting them?  Is this an item I should keep my eye out for
in junkyards?  I live in the southwest, and typically things that normally
rust out in the rest of the country don't here...

Blaine

> Wanted: radiator core support for a 71-72 442 in good to excellent
> condition.  Must be for a 4 core radiator.  Prefer location in Texas,
> Oklahoma, or Louisiana to avoid shipping.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:05:59 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: finishing a paint job!

I used Ditzler DXR-80 urethane hardener in the paint...like a .05:1 ratio...if
I remember correctly.:)

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:12:04 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: 71-72 core support wanted

B. Sanders wrote:

> I've always wanted to ask, but I figured someone else would do it for me and
> save me the embarrassment.  What the heck is the "core support", and why are

It the piece of metal that goes from fender to fender and houses the
radiator,
light buckets, hood latch.  Ok?

- -- 
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:19:09 EDT
From: JCRASH7@aol.com
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Intrigue Reliability Report?

Well, the Intrigue's drivetrain are the same as the Olds 88, Pont. Bonneville,
and Buick LeSabre (non supercharged versions).  Engine's the 3800 (3.8L,
231cid) Series II V6. They have good reliability records (as far as I know),
but look up those.  

Joe Sherbanenko

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:24:10 PDT
From: "scott slater" <slater442w30@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 80's Cutlass in a hurter of a movie

Yeah you don't see many like that.  I was surprised when I went to look 
at a 78 Cutlass that was advertised for 200 dollars to discover it had 
bucket seats and no air conditioning (also hard to find) I had to buy it 
and have had it for about two years.  I now have a 350 Olds out of a 70 
Cutlass in it and it has never broken down EVER!

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:59:14 EDT
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: parts/car for sale

I ment to send a e-mail and photos privately and acidently put it on the list.
I APPOLOGIZE I did not mean to clutter up the list and crash someones
computer. Please do not hate mail greg send it to me. Thanks Chris

CHRIS SOMMERVILLE
69 442SC
70 442HC
70 W31
AND LOTS OF PARTS FOR SALE!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:59:00 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: W30 FS in NY

Greg Rollin wrote:
>
> Red flag warning.  Power discs (or drums for that matter)
> were not available on a 1970 W-30 4 speed car.

Maybe the owner install an after market vacuum generator.  Who knows.

- --
Chris Sparks
______________

I'll bet it's a manual brake car with an incorrect ad.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:02:33 -0700
From: "David Seiver - Account Executive" <DavidS@AnaServe.com>
Subject: for sale

2brl with manifold (was on a 425bb) 

2 speed tranny (original off a 67 f85 runs great with drive shaft etc...

4 ssII great condition with ALL rings and triagles!




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Web: http://www.anaservehosting.com 

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:10:30 +0000
From: MB0 <MB0@americancentury.com>
Subject: Send me pics, privately please!

Would anyone who owns a 69 H/O, 442 or Cutlass please send me pictures
if your car via PRIVATE e-mail. Not only do I enjoy seeing others' cars,
but since I'm in the process of semi-restoring mine, I'd love some good
reference pics. I've seen all the pictures on Bryceman's page, and am
sure others on the list have photos they've scanned but haven't
submitted to that page.

Thanks a lot!
Mike Baugher
mb0@americancentury.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:07:30 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: RE: 71-72 core support wanted

What the heck is the "core support", and why are
so many people wanting them?
___________

The core support is the metal piece that goes across the front of the car
and supports the headlights, grille, and radiator (hence the term "core
support" - it supports the radiator core).  It also serves to hold the
front of the front fenders and the hood latch.  They are in high demand for
two reasons.  First, being at the front of the car they tend to get tweaked
in accidents.  Second, acid dripping from the battery tends to cause them
to rust out directly under the battery tray.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:30:50 -0500
From: Brett Chaveriat <brett@mcs.com>
Subject: Wide tires on front of A-body

I am about to install 15x7" SS-IIIs on my 72 Cutlass.  I would
like to put 255-60R15 tires on it.  I am a little concerned about 
rubbing in the front wheel well.  Anybody running this size tire on
a wheel with the same offset as the SSIIIs?  Any problems?  Any source
for hot deals for BF Goodrich Radial TAs in Chicago or via mail order? 
Better than Tire Rack or NTB?  A buddy and I can mount them, and then 
I can get them balanced at the alignment shop, so a high mounting/
balancing cost may not discourage me.  

- --


Brett Chaveriat

1972 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

mailto:brett@mcs.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:40:35 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: NON-OLDS.  ACTUALLY A FORD.

Sorry to do this, but I know that there are SOME of you crazy guys/gals
out there that somehow think that Ford had the better idea, which, was
proved wrong of course!  (just kidding)

Anyway, there's a guy at work who asked me if I knew anyone interested
in a 351 Cleveland engine with a C-6 auto tranny.  Ran when pulled, he
needs to move it out of his garage.  $300 takes both.  If I were a Ford
kinda guy, I'd already have it. (Why couldn't it have been a W-31
engine?)  I can get details if anyone is interested.  I don't know
anything else about it.  It's on the Gulf Coast of FL, about 80 miles
north of Tampa.  He also knows of a pretty straight 74 Ranchero (uck)
that needs some TLC.  Starter is froze.  Been sitting for a long time. 
Again, I don't know much details.  I think it was around $500.  E-mail
me privately at hurstolds@xtalwind.net if interested.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:48:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Wide tires on front of A-body

- ---Brett Chaveriat <brett@mcs.com> wrote:
>
> I am about to install 15x7" SS-IIIs on my 72 Cutlass.  I would
> like to put 255-60R15 tires on it.  I am a little concerned about 
> rubbing in the front wheel well.  Anybody running this size tire on
> a wheel with the same offset as the SSIIIs?  Any problems?  Any source
> for hot deals for BF Goodrich Radial TAs in Chicago or via mail
order? 
> Better than Tire Rack or NTB?  A buddy and I can mount them, and then 
> I can get them balanced at the alignment shop, so a high mounting/
> balancing cost may not discourage me.  

- ----You might get away with it, but I'd go for 235/60/15's....I know
those will fit .
==
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  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:39:22 -0600
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: Wide tires on front of A-body

> Any source
> for hot deals for BF Goodrich Radial TAs in Chicago or via mail order?
> Better than Tire Rack or NTB?

Summit Racing actually stocks most sizes of BFG Comp TA's.  The shipping, I
believe is free, but they charge a small handling charge of like $4/tire.  I
don't remember exactly.  But be SURE your tires are going to fit BEFORE you
order them, because if you have to send them back, you'll have to pay
shipping, and it's a grundle.  The tires I got were cheaper than Tire Rack,
and I saved about $40 on shipping (which Tire Rack would have charged me).
Unfortunately they were the wrong size, and it cost me $40 to ship them
back.  So in reality, I paid $40 to look at 4 tires, store them in my house
for 3 weeks (which stinks up the whole house, btw), then lug them to the UPS
dock.  I could have used that $40 for better things.

So, if you're absolutely sure of the size you want, I'd recommend ordering
from Summit.  You'll get them quite a bit cheaper than you will at any local
tire shop.  But if you're unsure, I'd buy them from a tire shop.  Most tire
shops will mount the tires up and take them back if they don't fit.  Summit
won't take them back if they've been mounted up, and I'm sure the Tire Rack
wouldn't either.  Also, if they don't have your tire in stock at Summit,
you'll have to wait about 3 weeks.

Blaine

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:46:37 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Top end down to 95 from 110 :(

Did you replace the torque converter, or not reconnect the lock-up wires?
 Is your top speed limited by how fast you'll turn your engine, or by how
fast the car will actually stop accelerating at?
Sorry to end with a preposition...

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:42:33 EDT DUKEOLDS@aol.com writes:
>Hey all...
>
>I rebuilt my trans this summer.  Now my top speed is only 95mph.  It 
>used to
>be 110mph.  Anyone have any ideas about what happened?  Neither I or 
>my
>mechanic can figure this out.
>Thanks
>

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:24:01 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Keyless entry, non list-exclusive

Altough I have a g-body, my question is addressed to the common
automotive knowledge-base.

I have a keyless entry system in my car that has the ability to also pop
the trunk.  However, my remote does not have that button.  Does anyone
know if there is a code on the box or the remote I could use to order a
new remote with that button?  I'm REALLY trying to avoid having to rip
the box out of the car.  It's a 95 GM Goodwrench system purchased through
a Cadillac dealership.  Any ideas?  Thanks!!!!!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:07:51 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)

O
 I personally have been the proud owner of several Olds

Let me know when you two split up.  I love you!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

(just kidding, sorry...)

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:40:54 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Olds G-body List?

>
- ---I enjoy the list the way it is, with minor exceptions
- ---I've been able to gather alot of input from list members

I'd like to echo these words...

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:20:43 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Olds Weekend

HEY! Did I miss a post about this event prior to it?!?!?!?!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:09:01 EDT NjOlds@aol.com writes:
>         Hey List !  I went to the 14th annual Oldsmobile Performance 
>Weekend
>at Englishtown, NJ Raceway Park this weekend and it was great.  I took 
>a lot
>of pics, raced my Olds., m

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:47:41 -0700
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Movie 442

There is a great looking 71 or 72 442 in the movie on HBO right now. I think
it's a Karate Kid sequel.
Red with black W30 stripes, W25 ram air hood. White bucket seat interior.
Plenty of close-up shots so far.
==============================================
Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
==============================================

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:54:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: '68 Cutlass project FS (fwd)

I got this privately, no idea of details or location, but thought I should
send it along...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Claude1972@aol.com
Subject: Car

Hi,
    Saw your picture @442.com
I have a 68 like yours. except it is a project car, no were near complete.  If
anyone asks you if you know where one is for sale. Please send them my way.
Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:01:24 EDT
From: JJP442@aol.com
Subject: Re:  RE: wheel fitment on a g-body

Gary,
What size rims did you use with those 255 60 15's???

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:13:35 EDT
From: JJP442@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Movie 442

They barbequed it towards the end of the movie!!!
Still have nightmares about it.
JJP442@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:16:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)

- ---Ray Costanzo <rocket409@juno.com> wrote:
>
> 
> O
>  I personally have been the proud owner of several Olds
> 
> Let me know when you two split up.  I love you!


- ----Only if I get that 68 convertible. :) Thanks for the compliment -
I really do enjoy the list(s) too. 
Pat
==
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  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:43:33 EDT
From: RAC5419@aol.com
Subject: Re: Wide tires on front of A-body

In a message dated 98-10-13 18:50:54 EDT, you write:

<< --Brett Chaveriat <brett@mcs.com> wrote:
 >
 > I am about to install 15x7" SS-IIIs on my 72 Cutlass. 
>snip
 One reply:
 ----You might get away with it, but I'd go for 235/60/15's....I know
 those will fit . >>

I have 245/60/15 Dunlop GT Qualifiers purchased by previous owner. Haven't
driven it much, but have no problems with rubbing. 

Dick Compton
1972 442 convertible

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:44:41 -0400
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: conv spkrs

Does anybody know where one would put rear speakers in a 67
convertible?  I just noticed in my YearOne catalogue that they sell
speaker mounting boxes...I just wonder where they go!  

art

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:20:19 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Movie 442

> 
> They barbequed it towards the end of the movie!!!
> Still have nightmares about it.

Yeah, some people cry if the hero dies at the end of a movie.  I know
how they feel now.

The BEST part of the movie, other than the car itself, is when he asks
the heroine if she liked his car ("It's an Oldsmobile 4-4-2."), and
tells about how he rescued it from the junkyard and completely restored
it and he loves it (sound hauntingly familiar?).  She says something
like 'Why?  It's just a CAR."  And he replies with "JUST a car?  Is
Michael Jordan just a basketball player?  Is Wayne Gretsky JUST a hockey
player?  No, they're GREAT, just like this car!"   LOVE THAT LINE!

Sorry, I digress,
Mike Rothe

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:10:12 -0700
From: "Corey Day" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE

Please remove me from this list

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:29:07 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: How to start a long dormant motor?

Today after I did a title search and tracked down the previous owner of this 
66 Delta 88 I am pulling the 425 out of, I
found out some interesting stuff.  It hasn't ran since 1979, this guys grandpa 
just parked it behind the garage and it
sat there for years til the cops towed it for no registration and abandonment. 
He also says that the 44,100 on the
odometer is actual.  So..how do I go about firing this motor up that has sat 
dormant nearly 20 years? This is my first
time starting a long dormant motor and don't want to screw it up so I can't 
use it in my 72 Cutlass Supreme. Thanks

Jason Labay  Akron, OH jlabay@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/jlabay

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:35:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: RE: 71-72 core support wanted

At 06:07 PM 10/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
>What the heck is the "core support", and why are
>so many people wanting them?

>two reasons.  First, being at the front of the car they tend to get tweaked
>in accidents.  Second, acid dripping from the battery tends to cause them
>to rust out directly under the battery tray.
>

And, to my knowledge, no one is making reproductions at this time. 

Year One does have a patch panel for the part beneath the battery tray for
'71s & '72s (maybe '70s-don't remember), usually the first place to rust out.

My '68 had done that. Although Year One's panel was for the later cars, we
tried it on the '68 anyway, figuring I had nothing to lose. I must say the
body may did a good job as he "made" it fit and I now have a solid core
support. Face it, if you find one in a junk yard, the safe money's that
they've rusted also.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:49:39 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds Weekend

Hey Guys!


As for the weekend  is was ok.   Just ok.           There were 3 parts
vendors.

I do have a question...............  Where were all the FAST oldsmobiles???

I was a little bit disappointed,  but the rain and all musta been the cause.


Vinny
68 Hurst/Olds
62 Starfire

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:17:46 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Wide tires on front of A-body

Brett,

I run BFG 255/60R15s on all four corners of my 69 H/O on the original H/O
wheels (which are 15 x 7 SSIIIs with chrome rims) with no problems.  I've
recently priced T/As for my 69 442, and so far Costco (formerly Price Club)
is the cheapest.  I've been looking for 245/60-14s for the front and
255/60-15s for the back, and mounted and balanced, out the door, with VA
state sales tax (4.5%), they are $297 for the four tires.  BTW, their
mounting and balancing cost is only $7.50/tire.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:49:22 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: How to start a long dormant motor? 

>


Change the oil and filter.
Pull the distributor and run the oil pump counter-clockwise
with a drill and 5/16" socket (make sure you don't drop it in the pan.
remove the valve covers an oil the rocker arms (running the oil pump 
won't get oil to move up the pushrods without the engine runnig).

This should prevent damage, but you will still end up replaceing most gaskets
and maybe a waterpump.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:12:43 EDT
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: How to start a long dormant motor?

In a message dated 10/13/98 11:52:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bob149@uswest.net writes:

<< running the oil pump 
 won't get oil to move up the pushrods without the engine runnig). >>
are you sure?  seems like when i did my engine i did what you just said, and i
got oil to squirt out of the pushrods and onto the floor.  (no valve covers on
the engine at the time) but maybe im wrong.....  	 
jeremy

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:27:08 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: HBO Movie

Can anyone tell me what the name of the movie was that had the red 71-72
442 in it? THe movie is a Karate Kid Sequel or something. 

Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:23:38 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: How to start a long dormant motor?

>are you sure?  seems like when i did my engine i did what you just said,
and i
>got oil to squirt out of the pushrods and onto the floor.  (no valve
covers on
>the engine at the time) but maybe im wrong.....  	
>jeremy
> 
Somtimes it can, but usually it will just leak out of the top of the lifters.
The up and down movment helps pump oil up to the vavletrain.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:27:39 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: HBO Movie

At 11:27 PM 10/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me what the name of the movie was that had the red 71-72
>442 in it? THe movie is a Karate Kid Sequel or something. 
>

The next karate kid

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:19:29 -0600
From: "Travis Adams" <olds442@mcn.net>
Subject: Re: Eibach springs

Igor,

    I have a limited experience with these springs.  I installed a set with
Monroe GP shocks on a friends 85 Mustang GT back in 93.  The difference in
handling was unbelievable!  I watched him beat the pants off a newer Porsche
going through the Berkley Tunnel (San Francisco area).  I was driving a
brand new Eclipse and could not come close to keeping up.  Bottom line is if
the quality is still as good today I would pay the price.  One other option
you may want to consider is Hotchkis Performance.  They have a lot of stuff
for your car and I have heard some good things about them.  I just bought an
entire suspension system from them for my 65 442 but it is in the middle of
a frame off restoration so it may be awhile before I can give any personal
feedback on them.

Travis Adams
65 442 Sports Coupe

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:57:31 -0500
From: bloom@mail.gorilla.net
Subject: He Scores!!!

Hello all. A while ago I wrote the list that here in the Tulsa,OK area '67
Cutlass and 442 parts
were scarce. So, I have been watching the papers pretty close for a "parts"
car.

Well, I found one. The add said there was an extra engine and the car "runs
good". So I call the 
guy up and he tells me the car belongs to his uncle but he can't drive
anymore. He says the body
is straight and if I want, I can drive it. So I go a 'callin.

The car is a '67 Cutlass S! It has a '72 350ci with the jetaway tranny. PS,
PB and AC. It's a 
Club Coupe(post) with black vinyl interior, front bench seat. It has the
original Am/Fm radio!
The paint is gold with the top white(no vinyl top). It came with an extra
rear bumper! Also, the 
original 330ci. He pulled the 330ci because it was smoking and put in the
350ci.

On the down side, there is one rust hole on the bottom of right fender and
another on bottom
of right quarter panel. The head liner has one small hole, although the
rest is in excellant shape.
The AC compressor, condensor, hoses and air vents are missing. The rear
bumper has a small dent(thus
the extra one). The paints pretty faded(but for the price I expected it). 

All in all, I'm real glad to have found this car and to have bought it. The
car is really in to 
good a shape to part it, so I guess I'll have to keep looking for a "parts"
car. :)

Fred K. (bloom@gorilla.net)
Tulsa,OK. area
'67 442
'67 Cutlass S
'67 Cutlass
		44   44  44   44  222222
		44   44  44   44   2  2
		4444444  4444444   2  2
		     44       44   2  2
		     44       44  222222
	

- --
IMail Server for Windows NT. Evaluation version.
Copyright (c) 1995-98 Ipswitch, Inc. http://www.ipswitch.com/

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:05:16 -0700
From: Ben <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: AWESOME SITE

This has all sorts of OLDS content. Lots of other content, but it's a
wealth of info/parts!
I just found a site listed on Netscapes auto pages. It's
http://www.gillys.com
cool site. and has 10 acres of cars. Not many olds, but I'm sure you can
ask him about any part and he should be pretty reasonable. He even lists
what cars and years he has. Liked the site from the start and happy that
he specialized in classic cars.
Enjoy,
Ben

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:22:20 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Movie 442

Mike Rothe. wrote:
SNIPPING A LITTLE HERE....

> player?  No, they're GREAT, just like this car!"   LOVE THAT LINE!
> 
> Sorry, I digress,
> Mike Rothe

I would disagree with you, Mike.  It seems you are waxing poetically, so
to speak.  :)

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:35:21 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: 71-72 core support wanted

C. Casteel wrote:
> 
> At 06:07 PM 10/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >What the heck is the "core support", and why are
> >so many people wanting them?
> 
> >two reasons.  First, being at the front of the car they tend to get tweaked
> >in accidents.  Second, acid dripping from the battery tends to cause them
> >to rust out directly under the battery tray.
> >
> 
> And, to my knowledge, no one is making reproductions at this time.
> 
> Year One does have a patch panel for the part beneath the battery tray for
> '71s & '72s (maybe '70s-don't remember), usually the first place to rust out.
> 
> My '68 had done that. Although Year One's panel was for the later cars, we
> tried it on the '68 anyway, figuring I had nothing to lose. I must say the
> body may did a good job as he "made" it fit and I now have a solid core
> support. Face it, if you find one in a junk yard, the safe money's that
> they've rusted also.

Well, I too would agree that is normally the case.  But today I saw
something that I didn't think possible.  A guy at a yard in Lexington
gave me a lead on a yard that handled old cars about 15 miles away, and
since it was close and my parts hunting buddy was riding with me, we
went and took a look.  Turns out the only Cutlass in the yard in my time
zone was a 70 Cutlass S with a good body on it and good glass.  It had a
perfect hood on it as best I could tell and the only visible rust was
coming through on the bottom of the driver's door.  The front fenders
had bubbles of rust coming through at the bottom, but were very clean
otherwise.  The driver's quarter has been repaired as it contained some
bondo.  The decklid was bent and unusable.  It did have a good
replateable rear bumper and I think the front was also good.  All glass
except the driver's rear looked perfect except someone had tinting
installed on it.  The passenger door had  been bumped in the middle, but
a good bodyman should be able to use it.  Under the hood looked
unbelievably good for a car of this area.  I didn't see any rust
anywhere under the hood.  The seats, steering column and some of the
dash parts were gone.  The engine was also not to be seen but could have
been available since I didn't ask about it.  I got some prices on some
of the parts in case anyone was interested.  Had I found the car before
the salvage yard did I don't think it would have been parted out. 
Really strong condition for central Ky on the whole.  Anyone interested
in any of this stuff can email me direct to keep Greg from going crazy.

Don Sowers
Nicholasville, Ky

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:42:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: HBO Movie

Try Demolition Man,I think it has a 71 W-30

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:50:09 EDT
From: Cutw29@aol.com
Subject: Re: HBO Movie

No, It's a W-30 in Demolition Man.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:54:36 -0600
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: AWESOME SITE (e-mail to BEN, regarding 455)

Ben,
I don't know if you remember but you plugged in the specks I gave you to the
D. Dyno once.  I am considering getting two different cams here.  I was
wondering if you have time if you could plug their numbers in to tell me
what I would get approximately.  Thanks.

The cams are:
CAM1
Duration @.050   214-224;  ADV.. Dur.  272-282;  Valve lift  .472-.496;
Intake Centerline 110;

CAM2
Duration @.050   224-234;  ADV.. Dur.  286-296;  Valve lift  .496-.520;
Intake Centerline 110;

If you don't remember my motor specks, here they are:
'76 Block, 455 .030over, 10:1CR cast pistons, with my J-heads about 9.5CR,
ported and polished exhaust side (inc. removal of EGR bump and opening up of
exhaust valve), stock smaller valves (2.000 intake I think), cast rings,
true DBL. roller timing, .10 under mains, .20 under throws, the intake is
the model  'L'  404521  '70-'72  455 4V AT and MT. 442, SX, 88, 98's. Except
W-30. Iron.;
the carb is 4-bbl Rochester of a '70' 442, no emissions or anything, 790 cfm
flow, the exhaust is stock '76 BB manifolds, dual 2.5" exhaust, 2.25"
dynomax super turbos, 2.25" tailpipes, balance-tube.  Rear is 8.5" 10-bolt,
3.23s posi, 12 inch converter, stage 2 shift kit.  The current cam is
260-272 AD, .448-.472 lift.  Thanks a lot.  Sorry, I forgot your e-mail,
mine is igor455@home.com .  I think that the CAM1 would be a better choice
for streetability and use with stock valvetrain.  The current cam runs out
of revs just before 4000.  I would like it to pull to 5000.  Now pulls great
to 3000, okay to 4000, nothing more.  Also, now it has no traction.  Thanks.
Igor.

Igor Todorovic
1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23s)
1981 Regency (307/propane/th2004r)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:18:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Wide tires on front of A-body

245/60/15's BFG TA's will rub on the outer side during max effort run
from Johnny stuff but have had no damage yet.  This is with standard
offset wheels.

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:12:56 -0400
From: "Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: J2 Intakes

Private non list member has Two 1957 J2 manifolds for sale.
One is the bear manifold. The other has Three primary carbs and linkage.
Owner hasn't set price but is interested in (he said) the Bowtie Air Cleaner
for this setup/era. Will settle for A Cadil*c or Ponti*c though prefer Olds
versions. Minor damage acceptable as he will refurbish air cleaner. Anyone
want to swap?

Ok, need to get more info/specs but has a complete Iskaterrian (spelling),
solid cam shaft, solid lifters, and roller rockers.

I also notices 2 or 3 Older Eldebrock Aluminum BB intakes with EGR block
offs. Circa remains verification.

We're 30 mi. South of Albany NY for shipping reference. Reply personally off
the list.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
  
'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:55:00 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: Movie 442

>They barbequed it towards the end of the movie!!!
Not really.  The did barbecue a Supreme.  After the initial explosion the
camera angle does get to the back side of the car after a while.  The shot
does not last long, but long enough to show the burning car was a stand in.
The Supreme roof line gives it away.  The movie was the 3rd Karate Kid movie.

Demolition man used a 70 w-30.  That car and its stand in cars were featured
in Musclecar Review a few years ago.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:29:51 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: HBO Movie

Can anyone tell me what the name of the movie was that had the red 71-72
442 in it? THe movie is a Karate Kid Sequel or something.

Pettrix@prodigy.net
____________

It's Karate Kid 3 (or is it 4?) and I believe the car is a 70, not a 71-72.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:33:41 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Keyless entry, non list-exclusive

> I have a keyless entry system in my car that has the ability to
> also pop the trunk.  However, my remote does not have that button.
> Does anyone know if there is a code on the box or the remote I could
> use to order a new remote with that button?

My experience is only with the '93 system which uses the ALDL
connector under the dash for programming, but I'm not sure your '95 
has the same connector.

Anyway, generally speaking, the car learns the remote code rather 
than the other way around, so there's nothing to stop you from 
programming two cars to respond to the same remote, for example. (In 
your case it doesn't even sound like they gave you the right remote; 
if you're sure the system you purchased can also pop the trunk, it 
doesn't make much sense for them to provide a remote without that 
button.) 

What I suggest you do is find out what the procedure is to program 
your car ('95 Cadillac?) for a new remote control. (On my '93, you do 
it by jumpering the bottom left ALDL socket to the top right, then
pressing any _one_ button on your remote precisely once. The car 
can learn up to two different remotes.) Then borrow a remote 
transmitter from anyone having a comparable one with a trunk release, 
program your car for it and see if the trunk now works. If so, you 
know what to buy. I understand those little key fobs can be up to 
$100, however.  :-(

Good luck...

- -- Andy

______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:45:59 EDT
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: '68 Cutlass project FS (fwd)

Greg, The guys name is mike and it is a 68 442, was going to buy the car but
funds went the wrong way for me. Is a GREAT deal and would make a good project
for some one on the list. He is located in Jasper Al. If I can help some one
let me know. Thanks Chris

CHRIS SOMMERVILLE
69 442SC
70 442HC FOR SALE
70 W31
AND LOTS OF PARTS FOR SALE!!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:47:38 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Eibach springs

I am converting a Cutlass to 442 specs, and just read a post about these
springs. Do they make the car ride rougher? Do they lower the car any?

Thanks,

Jon

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:57:52 -0500
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: HBO Movie

- -----Original Message-----
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM <Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: HBO Movie


>It's Karate Kid 3 (or is it 4?) and I believe the car is a
70, not a 71-72.
>
No, This one definitely had the round signal lights. I never
did get a good view of the taillights, so it could be a
hybrid like the one someone on the List just bought. My
guess is it's a 71 though, because it didn't have a black
grille.
===================================================
Mick Gillespie
1969 Cutlass S Conv.
1980 Toronado Brougham
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
mgillespie@sprynet.com

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:04:45 -0400
From: "Frederick S. Nissen" <FSNissen@Worldnet.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Which tranny in an auto 66 Delta 88?

Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:
> 
> What tranny would be in a 66 Delta 88 with a Hi-Comp 425? 
> ___________
> 
> Yep, should be a TH400.  1966 was the first year for the TH400.  Positive
> ID by the tranny pan, which looks kinda like the state of Texas if you
> squint (OK, that's a stretch, but it's the only GM trans with such an
> irregular pan.  Most others are rectangular or rectangular with a corner
> cut off).  TH400 is probably the foremost performance automatic out there.
> A stout piece in stock form, and tons of beef up parts available.  Only
> problem with the B-car version is the long tailshaft.
>

Close, but not quite, Joe.  TH 400 came out in the '64 Cadillac.  Olds
got it on the 88 and 98 in '65.  '65 - '67 Olds had the desirable switch
pitch converter. 
Regards,
Fred

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:04:37 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: How to start a long dormant motor?

Your right, smae with me. By priming and turning the motor by hand WILL get
oil to the top end. You just have to prime it for awhile.
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: How to start a long dormant motor?
> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 11:12 PM
> 
> In a message dated 10/13/98 11:52:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> bob149@uswest.net writes:
> 
> << running the oil pump 
>  won't get oil to move up the pushrods without the engine runnig). >>
> are you sure?  seems like when i did my engine i did what you just said,
and i
> got oil to squirt out of the pushrods and onto the floor.  (no valve
covers on
> the engine at the time) but maybe im wrong.....  	 
> jeremy

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:34:15 -0600
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: How to start a long dormant motor?

Would shooting some WD-40 in the cylinders help?  I used to
work with a mechanic 
and he suggested shooting motor oil in through the spark
plug holes.

I would think that some kind of lubricant would help prevent
damage to the rings
when they first travel over any surface rust on the cylinder
walls.  Might also 
help any rings that have formed improper attachment to the
wall let go instead 
of breaking up.

Of course the other items are a must.

- -- 

Cliff Simpson
'69 442/400/th400/3.23p (Kermit)

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:10:25 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: How to start a long dormant motor?

I found out that adding a few ounces of DOT 3 brake fluid to the oil for
initial startup will help to restore the shribbled up gaskets  to shape...of
course you need to flush the motor and refill with good quality motor oil upon
completion.

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:16:41 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: 14" Wheels

In a message dated 98-10-13 01:42:07 EDT, you write:

<< 15'' wheels allow more clearance for disc brakes. Also, better, speed
rated, soft compound tires don't come in 14''sizes.  Lastly, 14'' tires do
have a somewhat smaller contact patch than 15'' wheels of comparable width.
We're not even gonna start on looks.. >>

Karl now has 15" wheels and 235p70r15 tires on an Oldsmobile that was bought
in April of 1997 (?? poor memory) with 14" wheels and BIAS-ply tires!

1) The bigger tires increased the ride hight, and Karl likes.

2) The taller tire increases my total gearing by a bit.

3) I can see my patchwork exhaust clearly.  8-(  }

Except for a part of the inner fender that rubs on the tire when the wheels
are turned FAR to the right because that patch has rusted, cracked and bent
out (towards the tire!) the 235's fit perfectly on the 1965 full-size.

Finally! 
Adequate protection for the chrome oil pan from the days when karl did not
know that the pan from any 307 would fit!!!

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html
http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:53:38 -0500
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: G-body List Merge.

Greg,

Gosh, it's awfully quiet around here! ;-)

>Well done, and good luck. Any h*lp/advice I can give, feel free to ask.
>Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

Thanks for the support...remember this is really *your* accomplishment. :)

We appreciate the offer for h*lp, and wouldn't mind you looking over our
shoulders while we get started. Hey, I thought these things were supposed to
manage themselves...HA! ;-)

Currently we have 34 people on the list (~6% of this list) and we're looking
for many more. If anyone is at all interested please stop by
http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/ and sign up.

Thanks!

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:12:34 EDT
From: "Norm Baier" <nbaier@hotmail.com>
Subject: '66 tripower carbs

Anyone have the carb #'s for the '66 tri-power carbs? They aren't 

listed in the FAQ that I can tell. Are they in any way similar to the 

Pontiac tri-power carbs, or other GM 2bbls then available? TIA

Regards,
Norm Baier
Woodstock, GA
reply to: nbaier@hotmail.com


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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:28:05 -0400
From: "Thomas Q. Bartee" <tbartee@mitre.org>
Subject: Re: Tire/Wheel Balance Question

Hi all, I solved the poor tire/wheel balance problem, rides a lot smoother
now.  Found out that I had uneven tread wear on at least one of the tires
(the passenger rear tire), which I would guess was due to a failed shock
which I recently replaced.  I looked all over Northern Virginia for someone
who had the balancing adapter that centers the wheel using the stud holes
and no one around here has it.  Apparently at one time that was a more
common way to balance wheels but nowadays they are nowhere to be found (at
least around here).  I did find a local store with a knowledgable person
who owned a set of SSIIIs and was able to balance the wheels with a "back
cone" balance where the rim is put on the machine with the back of the
wheel facing the balance machine (instead of the front).  The technician
said that the wheels should balance fine this way and with new tires the
total weights that are required for a proper balance shouldn't usually be
more that 1.5 ounces total (for inside and outside).  All 4 of my wheels
required less than the expected 1.5 ounces total so they appear to be OK.
Now, I've got a proper balance (finally) with some good tires and a smooth
ride.

Moral of the story:

1) ask for "back cone balance."

2) be suspicious of bad balance if you have large weights on your SSIIIs
with good tires.


>
>Thanks, everyone, for the replies on this.  Conclusions seem to be:
>
>1) Problem is likely not the SSIII wheels themselves,
>2) Best way to proceed is to find a shop with the balancer adapter that
centers the stud holes and try rebalancing.
>
>I'll try rebalancing with the adapter before I consider other options
(like different wheels and tires).
>
>
>>My questions are: has anyone had any problems with balancing tires on the
>>SSIII wheels?  Would I likely get a better ride if I swapped for another
>>type of wheel?  Any other things I should check?  I don't suspect the front
>>alignment is bad since the tire wear is even across the front tires.
> 

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:32:24 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Tire/Wheel Balance Question

On Wednesday, October 14, 1998 1:28 PM, Thomas Q. Bartee 
[SMTP:tbartee@mitre.org] wrote:
>
> Moral of the story:
>
> 1) ask for "back cone balance."
>
> 2) be suspicious of bad balance if you have large weights on your SSIIIs
> with good tires.

I don't think I've ever had a smooth ride on my car, I also have SSIII's.  The 
Firestones were real 
bad...the BFG's are better, but still not great.  Thanks for the details...I 
was gonna go get them 
re-balanced soon, I'll take your e-mail with me.

Thanks!

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:00:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Tire/Wheel Balance Question

One old style balancer was a bubble balancer-you put the wheel with
mounted 
tire on its back on the machine and lined the bubble up with crosshairs.
Not very accurate but the operator did a good job it worked fine for
around town. On a spin balancer you can get a better balance.

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:24:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: '68 Cutlass project FS (fwd)

I'm looking for a few parts-hope you can help. I need 68 exhaust
mainfolds #389269 "X" LH and #398706 "Y" RH.  I don't really care about
#"S matching stuff but I'd like to match them to my "C" casting heads
with no center port divider. Also, I need rear bumper hangers. I think
68 & 69 would be the same, but I need the exhaust hanger tab provision,
and I'm afraid that might be exclusive to cars with exhuast cutouts in
the bumper. 
                  Thanks -Jeff Carter TX

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:36:19 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: '66 tripower carbs

Norm Baier wrote:

> Anyone have the carb #'s for the '66 tri-power carbs? They aren't
>
> listed in the FAQ that I can tell. Are they in any way similar to the
>
> Pontiac tri-power carbs, or other GM 2bbls then available? TIA



Norm,

The 66 4-4-2 Tri-Carb (L-69 and W-30) numbers are:
Front  7026055
Center  7026056
Rear  7026057

I'm not much up on Pontiac stuff to say for sure, but
I believe they use a different throttle linkage than the 4-4-2.
Although the Pontiac carbs and linkage could probably
be adapted if you are not concerned with originality.

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:47:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: signing off 'till monday

Hi Guys, 

will be gone fishing 'till monday. (Red Fish Rodeo).

Unfortunately my Cutlass project will rest but the weekend after that it 
finally will get its heart put back in! Also there will be some engine 
pics on the web soon. 

So long, take care, George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:12:27 -0400
From: "VBDeveloper" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: conv spkrs

I mounted mine on the little shelf right behind the seat, where the
seatback mounts are. The shelf is at the top of that wall. It's only about
1" wide, but that was enough. Also, I mounted a sub-woofer where the old
speaker was in the middle of the seat. 

- ----------
> From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: conv spkrs
> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 09:44 PM
> 
> Does anybody know where one would put rear speakers in a 67
> convertible?  I just noticed in my YearOne catalogue that they sell
> speaker mounting boxes...I just wonder where they go!  
> 
> art

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:14:38 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: '66 Starfire F/S - west of Chicago

I found this in a local paper and called on it to get this information.
It's not mine, I don't know the seller, etc.

'66 Starfire (hardtop coupe of course)
35,000 or 135,000 miles
red exterior, w/black interior, w/white headliner (original interior)
rebuilt trans
rebuilt engine - completely rebuilt - $2600 in receipts
1000 miles on rebuild
new master cylinder, tires
no A/C
Owned 3-5 years by current owner. Was owned by WI Dells Starfire
collector previously.

Exterior shows a couple of rust bubbles near rocker panels.
Couple of scratches here and there.

Located on west side of Aurora, IL. 630-907-0332. Asking $4500 or best
offer. Owner will drive to meet someone to show car.

- -- 
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