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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, October 17 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1556



Re: Cowl color?
Plastic Metalizing
Diesel parts needed
Duramex Metalbond - good, bad, indifferent?
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
RE: Gutless Cutlass??
olds list
Re: engine weight, another question
Re: possible parting out (70 cs)
intake manifold
Re: intake manifold
intake manifold
Re: Gutless Cutlass?? + Poisoning Cats
Re: olds list
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Re: intake manifold
Signing off for the weekend!!!
Re: New Olds Engine
rice grinders
olds list
Re: Gutless Cutlass?? + Poisoning Cats
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Parts, new
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Transmission
Vacuum Line Replacement
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Re: Gutless Cutlass?? + Poisoning Cats
Re: Transmission
Re: intake manifold
Re: Plastic Metalizing
RE: rice grinders
Olds 403
Re: Parts, new
RE: rice grinders
Re: Olds 403
Re: Olds 403
Re: Transmission
Re: engine weight
79 hurstolds dualgate shifter fs
Cutlass '76 parts
Re: Vacuum Line Replacement
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
grille cont.
dual quads?
Re: Parting out 84 H/Oand sell 4  complete 6/8sH/Os.
Re: grille cont.
Observation
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:13:05 EDT
Re: grille cont.
Re: Observation
Re: rice grinders
Re: Transmission
Re: grille cont.
Re: grille cont.
Re: need source for jetaway pan gasket
Re: 68 olds 442
Re: Observation
RE: rice grinders
emblem locations
Re: grille cont.
Re: Observation
What year model seats are in my '68 442???
RE: rice grinders
Re: rice grinders
Re: What year model seats are in my '68 442???
Re: Observation
Honda owners don't wanna see this
Re: Observation
motor
Re: Observation

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:07:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Cowl color?

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, MB0 wrote:

> Is the cowl color on a 69 Cutlass supposed to be body color, or the same
> satin black used on a black dash and firewall. I suppose it wouldn't

Satin black.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:13:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
Subject: Plastic Metalizing

Does anyone know of a reputable place to do re-chroming of plastic parts?

Thanks

Al Varhus
Columbus, Ohio 
http://www.infinet.com/~avar
http://www.infinet.com/~avar/olds.html
Oldsmobile Club of America # 29111
  Mid Ohio Chapter #136
  Gem City Rockets  
  

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:17:56 -0400
From: Jim Donoghue <jdonogh1@ford.com>
Subject: Diesel parts needed

I am trying to find some parts to finish a project of mine. I have a
1982 Cutlass Supreme, and a 4.3L V-6 diesel engine I am trying to put in
it. If anyone has any of the following parts, or knows where I may be
able to find them, let me know.
I need:
A/C compressor and Vacuum Pump bracket
Alternator Bracket(s)
Serpentine Belt Tensoiner
Fan Shroud
Engine Mount Brackets (strange, the brackets bolt to the engine and the
rubber-filles 'mount' part bolts to the frame)
I am also 'collecting' any other misc parts, junk, etc for this car
(trying to create a 'stockpile - O - diesel junk').
The biggest problem with this is that the parts are specific to the V-6
diesel, and none of the 350 diesel parts I have loads of will work.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:23:15 +0000
From: MB0 <MB0@americancentury.com>
Subject: Duramex Metalbond - good, bad, indifferent?

Has anyone heard of, or had experience with using Duramex Metalbond? I
was told by body shop owner that it was a good alternative to welding.
Apparently it bonds metal to metal. I was thinking of using it to adhere
patch panels over  two 3 inch holes that were lovingly carved into the
lower portion of my dash for speaker placement.

As always, Thanks!
Mike Baugher
69 Cutlass S convertible
mb0@americancentury.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:47:33 PDT
From: "scott slater" <slater442w30@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

YEAH screw those little cake boys driving around in their honda cars 
with loud stereos and annoyingly loud exhaust tips (you know the ones 
that increase noise so these boys think they have real cars).  I prefer 
a fast real car that has more going for it than a loud stereo and gold 
wheels.  I own a 70 Olds Cutlass Supreme and a 78 Olds Cutlass Supreme 
Both have 350 Olds engines in them and yet I still have kids at school 
in riceburners making fun of my car.  They either laugh at how old it is 
or say things like "my honda can outhandle your car" But I say that my 
cars handle good for how old they are and for what they may lack in 
cornering they make up for in performance so they could never keep up 
close enough behind my cars to watch how they handle.  So I will keep my 
OLDSMOBILES and hope you will too and spread the word on how 
underestimated these cars really are!

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:06:51 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

scott slater wrote:
> 
> YEAH screw those little cake boys driving around in their honda cars
> with loud stereos and annoyingly loud exhaust tips (you know the ones
[snip]
> close enough behind my cars to watch how they handle.  So I will keep my
> OLDSMOBILES and hope you will too and spread the word on how
> underestimated these cars really are!
> 
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> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Damn strait! Preach it, brother! I can't wait for the first time I
totally amaze some prep while I blow his doors off! 

- -- 
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
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1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:05:19 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Gutless Cutlass??

On Friday, October 16, 1998 11:07 AM, Matt Cremean 
[SMTP:creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu] wrote:
>
> > YEAH screw those little cake boys driving around in their honda cars
> > with loud stereos and annoyingly loud exhaust tips (you know the ones
>
> Damn strait! Preach it, brother! I can't wait for the first time I
> totally amaze some prep while I blow his doors off!

I think it's been posted before, but check out {http://riceboypage.com} for 
lots of pics of these 
little econo-boxes!

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:32:34 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: olds list

I haven't been receiving my mail lately. The last time this happened (last
week) I received a note from majordomo saying my mailbox was full (it wasn't)
and I was dropped from the list. I hope this hasn't happened again. this
happened to anyone else?
Bruce 
75 Delta 88 conv

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:02:06 EDT
From: SHELTERMEN@aol.com
Subject: Re: engine weight, another question

Thanks for all the responses,
     Some pretty sad and scary stories.  I actually returned the the wheeled
stand I bought and picked up a four wheeled one.  Twenty buck difference isn't
worth that risk.  It is made by a company called Speedway, I don't think it is
by the Speedway racing products.  Has anyone had an experience with this
brand?

Tim
'68 Delmont
'76Cutlass Street Stock

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:22:53 EDT
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: Re: possible parting out (70 cs)

<<where are you located?  steven,  w30442cs@aol.com>>

ft. lauderdale, fl

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:05:53 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: intake manifold

My stock intake manifold is leaking oil and since I need to remove it, I was
thinking of replacing it with an Edelbrock Performer. Just trying to get a
little more speed off the line (who isn't?) without much modification. My
local dealer wants $265. But I rememeber someone saying that Jeggs or Summit
would be good sources for these.Can anyone tell me how to get in touch with
either of these places or where else I can try? Also $265 seems mighty high.
Is that the right price. Much obliged.
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:06:22 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: intake manifold

I got a Performer from Jegs for $205 including freight. You might be able to
order it online at their website, www.jegs.com.

Jon

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:08:52 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: intake manifold

My intake manifold is leaking oil. Since I have to take it off, I was thinking
of replacing it with an Edelbrock Performer. My local car store wants $236 for
it. That price seems high. I remember someone saying that Summit or Jeggs
carry them. Can anyone provide any info as to their address or phone #? Also,
anyone have any other ideas (without breaking the bank) as to how I can get a
little more speed off the line?
TIA
Bruce
75 Delta 88 Conv.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:20:16 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass?? + Poisoning Cats

In a message dated 98-10-16 07:14:01 EDT, you write:

<< This link should explain it all.
 http://www.billdeebs.pair.com/edit2.htm >>

Thanks for a non-bile non-me-too here.

Cutw29@aol.com is to be commended for his restraint on city streets.

Yeah, people suck!
(Karl always takes this into consideration on the road.)

He's got a spoiler on the car right?
Ask him if that is the handle he uses to put his toy away with when he is done
playing with it!

And, since he's all that, explain to him about a great new oil additive......

 <A HREF="http://www.ll.net/spider/snake.htm">Snake Oil By Chris Alexander</A>

They do say on TV that it is great stuff! Right?

<Karl disavows any knowledge of or sympathy to machinations or devious
behavior resulting from the above concepts. Nor would Karl be at liberty to
discus such notions if they did in fact exist.>


IN other news;

Would like to hear about ways a cat converter might be "killed" or "poisoned".

J. Labay (who seems unimpressed by 1966 425s  :-)}   ) has mentioned
previously that use of unleaded will put a cat to a quick death.

Would lead substitute cause a similar failure??

Can uncombusted fuel kill a cat?

And will a poisoned cat still flow properly??

Thanks much!

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html
http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:13:32 EDT
From: WOODY3781@aol.com
Subject: Re: olds list

No but this is the first mail I received since 9 this morning. This has
happened where I go all day without mail.

wood 

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:23:16 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

our Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>Damn strait! Preach it, brother! I can't wait for the first time I
>totally amaze some prep while I blow his doors off! 
>
>

It's even better to beat a honda with a station wagon.
It REALLY gets their goat.  :)

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:28:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: intake manifold

Summit 800-230-3030                          Jegs 800-345-4545

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:40:08 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Signing off for the weekend!!!

Please forward all posts directed towards me to the e-mail addy below.
Thanks guys and gals.
Be back Sunday night!!!!
- -- 
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:20:19 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Olds Engine

In a message dated 98-10-16 05:10:02 EDT, you write:

<<  The Shortstar has a few design changes, front mounted water pump, coil on
plugs, and multi chain direct drive cams.  Intake's driven off the crank, and
exhaust is driven via second chain from the intake. >>

Ouch! After 70K that'll be a chain swap to make a grown Oldsmobiler cry!

Does Milodon have an aftermarket replacement gear set available yet?

Shortstar?

Fat Chance! (of one of those finding its way into my garage)

SOM

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:38:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: rice grinders

I've matched up with a couple 3000gt turbo models (vr4?) at stop lights
in my 68 442.  The drivers look like they're gonna cry after getting
spanked by an old dinosaur while the're in one of the finest $40,000
sports Japan has to offer.
Also-what's with all the rice boys running Hond V-TEC embems no matter
what they in?  

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:10:52 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: olds list

subscribe oldsmobile

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:06:22 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass?? + Poisoning Cats

> J. Labay (who seems unimpressed by 1966 425s  :-)}   ) has mentioned
> previously that use of unleaded will put a cat to a quick death.

_Leaded_, I assume he meant to say... Yes, leaded can glop it up.
Not one tankful, maybe, but a steady diet will do that.

> Would lead substitute cause a similar failure??

Ummm... dunno. This question might be answered on the can of
lead substitute; check the label.

>Can uncombusted fuel kill a cat?

No... of course, it doesn't stay uncombusted once it hits the
cat anyway.

>And will a poisoned cat still flow properly??

The lead buildup can physically clog it, so I guess the answer
is No. A cat that expires from old age might still not be clogged,
but one fouled with lead might be.

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:15:10 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

That riceboy web-site is GREAT!!! IT really cracked me up!! What I see
around my neck of the woods is   Mustangs with those STUPID stickers (kid
pissing on Chevy symbol) and they tend to put Cobra emblems and Boss 302
emblems on a stock Mustang. This all brings us to the same point. Does your
car go faster because of the stickers? the answer:NO!!  You bring your 15
second Mustang and I will bring my Olds to the track. When you run you low
15's MAYBE high 14's and I run my mid 12's we can see who looks like the
fool......Someone should have an anti-Mustang website....Are their any out
there? 

Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
> To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca'; 'G-body Mailing List'
<olds_gbody@listbot.com>
> Subject: RE: Gutless Cutlass??
> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 3:05 PM
> 
> On Friday, October 16, 1998 11:07 AM, Matt Cremean
[SMTP:creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu] wrote:
> >
> > > YEAH screw those little cake boys driving around in their honda cars
> > > with loud stereos and annoyingly loud exhaust tips (you know the ones
> >
> > Damn strait! Preach it, brother! I can't wait for the first time I
> > totally amaze some prep while I blow his doors off!
> 
> I think it's been posted before, but check out {http://riceboypage.com}
for lots of pics of these 
> little econo-boxes!
> 
> Jason Adcock
> Blacksburg, VA
> ICQ: 5860857
> E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
> Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:32:17 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Parts, new

To all, 
Repaired the grille on the 75, looks bad. Maybe if I filled it (the crack)
with Bondo, sanded and repainted it. Don't know what color it is other than
alum color. Anyone know what to use or who might sell it? Better yet, does
anyone have a 75 Cutlass Supreme right side grille or seen one I could buy.
Has to be a Supreme apparently. Need a good one. Hens teeth around here! 
Car is almost a perfect 10 excepting for the grille now. I could paint both
grilles so they would look the same but all the alum colors I can find are
too bright. Looks like sh*t that color. Article in todays local newspaper
about excessive road kill this year, something to do with last years mild
winter. May take up hunting, but maybe not. Ted Nugent I'm not. Thanks to
all
 
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:51:46 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

All,
Best ones are the civics with 17 or 18 inch wheels, triple Z rated tires, 6
inch reverse rims, and a 500 watt sound system. Follow one home every nite.
Jimmy 4 cyn w/5 speed will get him every time. Did get a Porsche carrera
with the 67 442 last time I took it out. Had him about 5 car lengths up to
about 120 mph. Shut it down then because I knew the aerodynamics would get
me, plus I hate to lose. Felt too good, $45000 car against 31 year old
OLDS. Strictly stock also. Put a smile on my face would have taken a
plastic surgeon to remove. So much for road rage, although I wasn't upset.
(Disclaimer)
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
 
 

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:58:38 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Transmission

I have a Rallye 350 and I would like to remove the transmission crossbrace
from under the car. If I remove the two bolts on each side and the bolts that
go into the trans case, would I be able to take the brace out, or would the
transmission fall out? Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Jim  McKeague

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:53:19 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Vacuum Line Replacement

I am getting ready to put vacuum lines back on my car and was wondering where
they go. When I bought the car all the hoses had been ripped off. What hoses
connect to the carb? I have a '70 455 automatic with power brakes. I looked in
the manual and really couldn't find any solution. Can anyone out there h#lp
me?
Thanks,
Jim McKeague

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:17:13 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

While on the road in Athens, Ga. (Home to U.G.A. go dawgs), I got abusively
cut off by a Jap Trap with three young men from the University, right there
on Broad Street, in daylight, in public!  It made me cross!  They had one of
those generic three door hatchbacks that my mother says looks like a
suppository.  I put Big Blue (1970 four door 98 LS)  right, and I do mean
RIGHT on their bumper.  Like a duck on a june bug.They did everything they
could to shake me, but it wasn't a happening thing.  They wound the piss out
of that little impotent thing, but still, Big Blue was glued to their rear
bumper.  When the highway widened they would flog the crap out of their big
1800 cc motor.  Still, Big Blue was there.  Like stink on $h1t.  For fifty
miles they tried to shake me, but it was not a happening thing.  Finally, I
tired of the game.  When we turned right off the highway onto a secondary
road, they turned into the right lane and I turned into the left lane.
Their suppository was clearly at WOT.  I pulled my 4800 pound luxo-cruiser
abreast of them, waved bye-bye at them, and drilled it.  455 cubic inches
sucking through an 850 CFM bogmaster carb downshifted and hurled herself
like, oddly enough, a rocket past the riceburner.  As I left them behind, I
could clearly make out in the rear view mirror the boob in the back seat
mouthing the words, "Old man".  Wonderful vindication!  I loved it.  Peter.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:20:23 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass?? + Poisoning Cats

Uncombusted fuel will kill a cat deader'n a doornail.  Such a cat will not
flow exhaust gas worth squat.  Peter.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:29:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Transmission

- ---DROLDS350@aol.com wrote:
>
> I have a Rallye 350 and I would like to remove the transmission
crossbrace
> from under the car. If I remove the two bolts on each side and the
bolts that
> go into the trans case, would I be able to take the brace out, or
would the
> transmission fall out? Anyone have any suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Jim  McKeague
> 
- -----Jim, just place a small bottle jack or something to support the
tranny...then remove the bolts....
         later...
==
John McJunkin ( The Sman ) mailto:super442@yahoo.com  
  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:46:27 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: intake manifold

In a message dated 10/16/98 4:19:45 PM EST, Jon442@aol.com writes:

<< I got a Performer from Jegs for $205 including freight. You might be able
to
 order it online at their website, www.jegs.com.
  >>
That sounds about right. Gonna give them a call.
Thanks Jon,
Bruce

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:16:34 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Plastic Metalizing

> Does anyone know of a reputable place to do re-chroming of plastic parts?
> 
How would you like it done?  Regular vacuum metallizing is somewhat
costly for what you get back.  A thin film of generally fragile chrome. 
Which, is STILL probably better than original mostly, but I am not a big
fan of it.  Now, if you have a detailed design and intricate parts, this
is probably the best way to go however.

When it comes to general plastic parts, like knobs, vents, plastic
emblems, I use Custom Coatings in Tallahassee, FL.  They use a
COMPLETELY different process than most.  They do it the way the old H/O
emblems were done. (Had some H/O emblems redone as a matter of fact,
turned out fantastic)  They coat the piece with copper, and then chrome
it like you would a bumper.  Brilliant chrome, and you can paint it
too.  If you mess up, easy fix.  A little lacquer thinner, and you can
repaint.  Can't do that with vacuum metallizing.  The finish is hard as
a rock and maintains it's luster.

One slight drawback however.  As I mentioned with detailed parts, such
as slight indentations, fine lettering, etc, the copper plating process
sort of fills those in somewhat.  The coating is a little thicker
because of this.  This is why I recommend vacuum metallizing for
detailed parts.  The H/O emblems I had done last year aren't as razor
sharp at the edges, but still look extremely nice.  I like the idea that
they won't be corroding as quick as vacuum metallized ones will in a
short time OUTSIDE the car.  I think the H/O emblems that The Parts
Place sells are metallized in a similar manner.  Nothing beats good
chrome.  I'm getting off the beaten path here a little bit, but I'm just
trying to make comparisons.

Ok, that's my view.  If it's vacuum metallizing you want, I've had good
luck with Mr. G's.  They put a thin clearcoat on it also to help protect
it.  It doesn't last forever, but I remember the instrument bezel and
console piece in my 71 I had them do back in 1989.  They STILL look
great.  Not perfect anymore, but it's lasting a LOT longer than the
factory stuff.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:59:45 -0700
From: "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net>
Subject: RE: rice grinders

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That's because V-tec is an extremely high winding fast little motor, and =
all the little Honda owners wish they had one. I had a 94 Honda Civic =
Hatchback Si with V-tec and that car moved. I went to Vegas early in one =
morning (4am) with it and cruised at 130mph, at 4000rpm, redlined at =
8000(chipped), made it to Vegas from the Pacific Ocean(LA) in before =
7am. A friend who owns Pocket Rocket in Rosemead, Ca. built a 1.6 liter =
turbo'd V-tec that was pushing 400hp, put that on your skateboard and =
find out who beats who at a stop light. Don't knock the car or the =
technology until you drive one, I own 2 Olds (love 'em to death) but I =
miss my Honda, that was one bad-ass slot car.
Bruce Camilli
70 Delta 88 Conv. Rocket 350
75 Delta 88 Royale Conv Rocket 455

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Sent:	Friday, October 16, 1998 2:39 PM
To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject:	rice grinders

I've matched up with a couple 3000gt turbo models (vr4?) at stop lights
in my 68 442.  The drivers look like they're gonna cry after getting
spanked by an old dinosaur while the're in one of the finest $40,000
sports Japan has to offer.
Also-what's with all the rice boys running Hond V-TEC embems no matter
what they in? =20

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:02:56 -0700
From: Andy Lawrence <lawrencj@coral.indstate.edu>
Subject: Olds 403

Hello, I am building a 79 Cutlass with a 403 engine....The engine is basically 
stock with the exception of a mild cam....Would you guies suggest the 
Performer or Performer RPM Manifold?  What would be the highest RPM be with 
the Wido Weeb Block?  I heave heard that if you keep it under 6000 you are 
alright....I also have a built 10 bolt rear end out of my 72 cutlass that i 
want to put into my 79, is that a direct bolt in using the stock 79 coutrol 
arms?

Thanx in advance.......

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:15:27 EDT
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts, new

i have a friend who has a lot of 75 cs parts, ill check for you. if he has
what you need ill give you his phone number, he lives in birch run michigan.
where are you? ide like to find a 73 vista cruiser or a cutlass s  myself.
anyone know of any? thanks.               w451973@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:19:53 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: rice grinders

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On Friday, October 16, 1998 9:00 PM, Bruce Camilli [SMTP:bcam@vel.net] wrote:
>
> on your skateboard and find out who beats who at a stop light. Don't knock 
the car or the
> technology until you drive one, I own 2 Olds (love 'em to death) but I miss 
my Honda, that was
> one bad-ass slot car.

I have no problem with the speed claims of these V-Tec cars.  I know that 
they'll whip my 84 G-body 
any day.  But, I'll still take a V8 over any 4-banger.  The mileage sucks on a 
V8 and it's 
certainly not as smooth as one of those V-Tec's, but even my smogger 307 makes 
twice the torque at 
probably 25% of the RPM (250 lb-ft @ 1600).  Anyway you put it, you don't get 
the torquey feel of a 
V8...or the speed of one unless you rev the heck outta a V-Tec.  At the very 
least, you get a nice 
rumble versus a high-pitched whine.

Of course, no offense meant towards anyone...it's just my opinion...take it 
for what it's worth. 
 :-)  I respect any car that's kept up nice...I just may not choose to own one.

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:24:33 EDT
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds 403

sorry but you will also have to move the spring perches in. i think it was an
inch or inch and a half inward on each side.    w451973 

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:22:09 EDT
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds 403

intake choice will depend on cam and other eng. mods, keep it under 6000
definetly, and you will have to use upper control arms from a 68-72 a body to
install the 72 10 bolt. had to do this when i put a 12 bolt from a 70 442 in
my brother in laws 79 hurst olds. just my $.02      thanks     w451973@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:28:56 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Transmission

the brace will let the tranny sag severely...but fall out...I doubt it.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:32:57 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Re: engine weight

hi ray
         where at in bucks county do you live? i used to live in warminster
across from william tennant high  school.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:36:16 EDT
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: 79 hurstolds dualgate shifter fs

i have a 79 hurstolds dualgate for sale. shifter is still tight but the chrome
on the handle is bad. top plate is presentable but not perfect. i have the
brackets to mount it to the floor, but NO cable or cable to transmission
brackets. sorry i dont know where to find these. hurst still rebuilds these
and you can get a new chrome handle. price is $150.00 firm plus shipping. just
want to get what i have in it. i live in lincoln park michigan just outside of
detroit. thanks. if interrested e-mail me directly please.
w451973@aol.com
p.s.   always looking for 73 hurstolds parts  thanks again

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:51:50 -0400
From: "Pat" <pdooley@gte.net>
Subject: Cutlass '76 parts

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:02:45 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Vacuum Line Replacement

> I am getting ready to put vacuum lines back on my car and was 
> wondering where they go.

Somebody may have already faxed you a service manual diagram
by now, but if not, there is a Chilton manual devoted to
nothing but emissions and vacuum hose routing diagrams. If you
can find an auto parts place with a service manual library,
they may have a copy of the thing.

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:17:58 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

Peter, 
Really a good show!
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??
> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 6:17 PM

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:36:17 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: grille cont.

All, 
Really need help here, snow is coming. Would like to complete the car and
put away before that crap flies. State of Ill has a huge salt budget. All
one would ever need+.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:43:20 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: dual quads?

 Found the following add in a paper that services Ct, Mass, and N.Y. ;

OLDS MANIFOLD, 4 bbl, dual carb setup, made by Offenhauser, $125. (914)
237-0318 before 10pm. Yonkers

Might be a bit overkill for my 307?  :P

Wanna do that 425 up Karl? Can you say, "sluuurrp"?

drc

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:38:32 EDT
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parting out 84 H/Oand sell 4  complete 6/8sH/Os.

Mike, 
Are you talking about the 84 HO. If so, it's suppose to be complete except my
friend wants to keep the wheels and trans. He's kinda cooky for parting out
stuff he does'nt want. His parent left him tons of $$ and he's spoiled.
What are you interested in? Do you live in Ca?
Dennis

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:49:48 EDT
From: WOODY3781@aol.com
Subject: Re: grille cont.

Lou,
Please don't use the "S" word, I think I am going to be ill! Before going
bondo have you checked Hemmings?

wood 

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:54:04 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Observation

All, 
Can tell who the old dudes are because no one else is on line on Fri or Sat
nites, Gee I am,  makes me ??? OLD?? Boy I hope not!  Still breathing, at
least so far. Have a good one.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:55:20 -0400
From: "<GJC> Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:13:05 EDT

<Snip>

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:13:05 EDT
From: WOODY3781@aol.com
Subject: power tour site change

For those interested I heard that the site has been changed from Rockland CC
to Anthony Wayne Park. Double check please.

wood


<GJC>

Wood; Where did you hear this? What did you hear? Please respond privately.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
  
'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

Oldsmobile G-Body Mailing List -
http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody

Once a member, post to:
olds_gbody@listbot.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:58:15 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: grille cont.

Wood,
I used it once before and I thought I got away with it. Any info on how to
get Hemmings. Don't know!
Lou
> From: WOODY3781@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: grille cont.
> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 9:49 PM
> 
> Lou,
> Please don't use the "S" word, I think I am going to be ill! Before going
> bondo have you checked Hemmings?
> 
> wood 

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:15:10 EDT
From: WOODY3781@aol.com
Subject: Re: Observation

makes you OLDS

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:38:24 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: rice grinders

Since we're all telling fish stories about our street racing conquests, I
have to recount an experience in my very first 442, a 68 that I actually
rescued from a wrecking yard while in high school.  I spent three years
going through the car, which still had a 400/TH400 and an open rear (of
unknown ratio).  Had a carful (myself, wife #1-to-be, and another couple)
and went up against a Masarati Merak on a rolling start (carrying only the
driver).  We had been playing cat-and-mouse, and had come up to a long
straight stretch of road.  I glanced over and noticed him downshift.  I
banged the shifter into low, tromped on it, and never looked back.  Yeah,
the Merak is only a V-6 (unlike the V-8 Bora), but it still cost an order
of magnitude more than my humble 442, and with the full passenger load,
likely weighed about half.  Needless to say, this older gentleman was a tad
upset at being wasted by a muscle car (the 68 was only about 9 years old at
the time).

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:50:08 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Transmission

I have a Rallye 350 and I would like to remove the transmission crossbrace
from under the car. If I remove the two bolts on each side and the bolts
that
go into the trans case, would I be able to take the brace out, or would the
transmission fall out? Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Jim  McKeague
_____________

Well, the tranny won't fall out, because you won't be able to budge that
crossmember with the weight of the tranny still resting on it.  You will
need to put a floor jack under the transmission and jack it up enough to
just take the weight off the crossmember.  Do this after removing all the
bolts (two on each end of the crossmember and two in the center attaching
the crossmember to the transmission mount).  Don't worry, nothing will fall
out yet because the crossmember actually sits on the lower flange of the
frame rails.  At this point, you'll also need to disconnect the emergency
brake cable, as this passes though the crossmember.  Undo the double nut at
the adjustment point near the crossmember on the driver's side and unhook
the link on the other side.  You may also need to drop one or both of the
exhaust pipes to get the crossmember out, as the pipes run under the
crossmember.  Place the jack under the transmission's oil pan and put a
block of wood between the jack and the oil pan.  I use a 2x4 or 2x6 which
is a little bit wider than the width of the trans pan, so that you actually
bear on the sides of the pan (otherwise, you run the risk of denting the
pan).   Jack the tranny up almost all the way to the floorboard, then angle
the crossmember to get it out of the frame rails.  Note that if the car has
been previously jacked up using a floor jack under the open section of the
frame rail (_not_ the recommended location, but it happens), the lower
flange of the frame may be bent upwards and will cause the crossmember to
wedge against the floorboard.  In this case, a liberal application of the 2
lb sledge does wonders.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:12:28 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: grille cont.

Lou Biggs wrote:

> Wood,
> Any info on how to
> get Hemmings. Don't know!
> Lou

Lou,
Hemmings Motor News:
 www.hemmings.com

You can usually pick up a copy at most major book stores
i.e. B. Dalton, Barnes & Noble, etc.  Also available at
magazine stands.  Look for the 1" thick magazine with a paper bag
looking cover.

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:24:08 EDT
From: WOODY3781@aol.com
Subject: Re: grille cont.

Lou,
I have made a couple of purchases from two places I found in Hemmings, West
Coast Sheet Metal and Desert Valley Auto Parts(did I spell it right or is this
something you have after dinner?). I can get you the numbers and I was sure I
had the web address of Hemmings, have to get it tomorrow at work as this is
where I place my orders because they are both out west. 
 

wood

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:14:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry <kajrav@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: need source for jetaway pan gasket

- ---Doug Ahern <doug@mail.RATH.PeachNet.EDU> wrote:
>
> 
> I'm having trouble finding a source for a jetaway pan gasket and
filter
> for 64 olds.  I tried napa, bumper-to-bumper, autozone, parts plus,
> basically every parts store in the area...  most don't list a part 
> or its listed as unavailable and unorderable.


     I don't know if the 67 jetaway is the same as the 64 but I bought
one at the local parts store not too long ago.  It was a Fram FT1014. 
Like I said I don't know if it will fit but it might be worth a try.

                                                       Larry 
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:13:04 EDT
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: 68 olds 442

Jeff,
What year parts are these for, 68or 69 442? If so I may have some.
Dennis 

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:32:20 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Observation

Woody, 
Dad had a 1953 Super 88, OLDSMOBILE was written on the front grille, really
part of the front bumper assy. The "S" fell off. Fits right in!
Lou
> From: WOODY3781@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Observation
> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 10:15 PM
> 
> makes you OLDS

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:20:22 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: RE: rice grinders

built a 1.6 liter turbo'd V-tec that was pushing 400hp,
__________

While that's a very impressive specific output, it's clearly not something
you'd want to drive on the street.  I'm guessing this same engine was
hard-pressed to develop a torque peak of over 200 ft-lbs.  In addition,
this kind of high specific output always comes at the expense of engine
flexibility.  The useable power band is what, between 7000 and 8000 RPM?

Contrast this to a 70 455 Olds.  400 HP and 500 ft-lbs of torque, _stock_!
Even more importantly, the torque for this engine looks like Kansas; it's
always above _400_ ft-lb between 1200 and 5300 RPM!  This engine will run
100,000 miles with no problems, idle all day long in traffic with the A/C
on, and still give you outstanding performance in a reasonable weight car.
Now, take the money that was spent squeezing the last couple of ponies out
of the Honda, and put that same amount into the big block.  No, you won't
come close to the Honda's 250 hp/liter, but even at a more realistic 90
hp/liter, you'll be making close to 700 HP - and something like 700+ ft-lb
of torque.  And this will be a much less radical engine in terms of
modifications and driveability.  Torqure still rules on the street.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:31:22 EDT
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: emblem locations

i was wondering if there are any sources that tell the exact locations of body
emblems?  the car has new fenders on it and we need to know where to drill
holes.  the car is a 1970 442 convertable non/w-30.  we need the both fenders
and trunk lid locations.  i have tried several olds books and have found
nothing.  i was just wondering if you guys had any clue about this one....

mikeytvb@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:37:24 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: grille cont.

Thanks, everyone, I'll try hemmings.
Lou

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:43:38 -0400
From: jgoble@nishanet.com (Jeramy Goble)
Subject: Re: Observation

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I old relative to my son who is 18 and my daughter is 27. I usually stay =
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Besides I can write the other buddies on line like you. I usually keep =
an eye on mail all Friday evening as I 'm usually up till 2-3 am.=20
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Reggie Goble

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:41:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: What year model seats are in my '68 442???

Can anyone give me some pointers to identify what year seats these are? I
guess they could be '68s, but would have then been recovered with a
different material. They certainly don't match the rear seat which, in turn
matches the seat covers I got from Year One. I suspect the rear seat is
original, so will be keeping all eyes peeled for that build sheet when the
back seat comes out.

<This has been a dilema I'v been aware of since the start of this whole
thing, just haven't worried about it until now as it's getting close to time
to bring back the interior.>

If it's determined these seats are from a different year, I'll be in the
market to trade. Btw, they don't have headrests.

Thanks,

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:46:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: RE: rice grinders

YES!!!  You sir, are a good man.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:59:51 -0400
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Re: rice grinders

God bless you!!  Be safe, be good, be fast and kick a**

blue442@webtv.net wrote:

> I've matched up with a couple 3000gt turbo models (vr4?) at stop lights
> in my 68 442.  The drivers look like they're gonna cry after getting
> spanked by an old dinosaur while the're in one of the finest $40,000
> sports Japan has to offer.
> Also-what's with all the rice boys running Hond V-TEC embems no matter
> what they in?

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:57:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: What year model seats are in my '68 442???

68 seats had no headrest as did later years, and the seat release is on
the outer side of the seatback.  Year One's catalog has good, clear
pictures of the seat covers.  (800) YEAR-ONE

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:02:06 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Observation

Jeramy,
Feel better now, # one son now 28, we're probably about the same age. Same
thing, after all week fri is time to unlax. Wife watches tube, I fool with
computer. I'm usually busy as heck on sat and sun, so fri is big nite. Have
to go, soups on. have a great week end.
Lou
From: Jeramy Goble <jgoble@nishanet.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Observation
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 10:43 PM

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:15:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Honda owners don't wanna see this

Hondas are GIRL CARS. Probably every other front driver I have ever seen
is too.
You don't have to have a flashy extension of your manhood, but American
rear drive V-8's are and always will be simply the best.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:25:21 +0000
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Observation

At 11:02 PM 10/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Jeramy,
>Feel better now, # one son now 28, 

Sounds familar, youngest is in the Army in Clarksville, Tn.  Boy it sure
sneeks up on you.  OLDS Content, Cant wait to drive Cutlass up to see
grandaughter for Christmas.
Clarence
86 Cutlass 4DR 307 O/D 2.56's
San Antonio

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:58:03 EDT
From: COOTER6968@aol.com
Subject: motor

I am looking for an early 70;s 350 needing to be rebuilt    thanks


                            Dave

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:28:46 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Observation

Lou Biggs wrote:
> 
> All,
> Can tell who the old dudes are because no one else is on line on Fri or Sat
> nites, Gee I am,  makes me ??? OLD?? Boy I hope not!  Still breathing, at
> least so far. Have a good one.

Likewise, Lou, and yes I am one of the older ones I guess, at 49 (well
actually 50 next Friday, but what the heck that's next week).  Went out
for pizza and beer, a Friday night tradition older than I am.  Good news
is I went out into the garages and cleaned all the boxes, etc off the 69
and 70 Cutlass convertibles and took a look to see what they need for
the boneyard expedition tomorrow.  Got to sit in them for the first time
in years, and yes, I got a bad case of I wannas.  I wanna fix this one,
I wanna fix that one.  Just felt REALLY GOOD to sit in a Cutlass bucket
seat again,  D@^n I've missed that and didn't really realize it.  But
things are looking up, cause we junking tomorrow!!!!  Didn't realize how
solid my 69 S was until today.  Needs a lot of things and probably a
total motor rebuild, but it's paid for, it's inside, and it's MINE! 
WHAT A START!!!!  If my kids behaved as well as my cars life would be
much simplier.  Everyone have a good weekend.  I've found some parts for
my BMW, Buick GS, and the Cutlai.  Been a h@!! of week.  Now where did I
put the stuff I need to rob the bank to pay for all this.........

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