
oldsmobile-digest      Tuesday, October 13 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1551



One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)
Re: Shipping seats
RE: Shipping seats
Re: Radio Dial Lights
Re: finishing a paint job!
Re: Radio Dial Lights
Re: 455 fender braces
ignore -- test -- rule  processing
POR-15
compressors, air wrenches
Re: Need Engine ID
Re: Need Engine ID
Re: compressors, air wrenches
ADV: ... 1031 exchange help
[Fwd: Need  Some Assistance]
RE: [Fwd: Need  Some Assistance]
G-body List Merge.
W30 FS in NY
Which tranny in an auto 66 Delta 88?
Re: Which tranny in an auto 66 Delta 88?
Pics going down soon.
Re: W30 FS in NY
Olds Weekend
Re: Olds Weekend
Re: W30 FS in NY
Re: G-body List Merge.
71-72 core support wanted
Re: G-body List Merge.
Re: parts for sale
Re: Y2K Compliance of onboard computer
Re: 68 olds 442
1998 Olds Intrigue GLS
Re: UNBOUNCE: Need '64 Drums
Re: W30 FS in NY
Re: parts for sale

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat H <frogs442@yahoo.com>
Subject: One woman's opinion on Olds List(s)

I don't know if this post will make it through, but I just have to add
a woman's poit of view. I don't belong to the list, but do read many
of them. I personally have been the proud owner of several Olds and
currently share 3 with John (S-Man). I have been by his side for 6
years now and during that time we have had a 1969, 1982, 1984 and
1985. And we both have spent numerous hours under the hood, inside and
outside the car. I can change my oil, do a tune up, or replace the
carpet or headliner. Being in my mid forties I am a lover of the older
cars as well as the newer. When I learned to drive all those years
ago, my Dad taught me valuable lessons, like how to check oil, fill
the gas tank, listening for things that didn't quite sound right with
the engine. My 21 year old daughter took auto mechanics in high
school, so that she would be able to do these things too. I have known
for a long time when something is wrong what to do, when to go for
service, etc. And am appaled at service technicians talking to me like
I have no idea what they are saying. And I tell them so. 
What I'm getting at here is this list is a world of knowledge not just
for the older cars, but the newer ones. I do think it's a good idea to
have more than one list however. But at the same time, it's a good
idea if you are interested or own more than one year to belong to both
list. Greg does a fantastic job with this one, I'm sure Mark will do
the same with his. I will continue to read the posts as I might see
something that John misses and it could be a big help to me. My dream
car is a 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass Convertible, and some day soon I will
own one, when I do I will already have knowledge that I otherwise
would not have had if it weren't for Oldsmobile Lists.
Thanks for listening.
Pat




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:26:33 +0000
From: MB0 <MB0@americancentury.com>
Subject: Re: Shipping seats

Mike,
Finding GOOD buckets is a real pain in the as%, so just "suck it up" and
pay the cash to get them.  You are envied.

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                        Bucks County, PA


- --- 
I wish my wife shared your enthusiasm! HAHA

Mike Baugher
mb0@americancentury.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:41:24 +0000
From: MB0 <MB0@americancentury.com>
Subject: RE: Shipping seats

"Buy junk seats locally for less, and don't pay to have good seats
shipped -- unless you're paying like $25 for them -- because you'll just
have to repair them anyway."

OK, I'm done.

Blaine


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In which case, my current buckets will serve that purpose. I  suppose I
can tolerate them a while longer until I can justify to my wife (who's
going to have a baby any day) that I NEED those seats recovered.

Thanks Blaine


Mike Baugher
mb0@americancentury.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:14:52 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Radio Dial Lights

> Is "grain-of-wheat" a trade name or do these have a more "official"
> name/number? Don't suppose these's any chance RS would have them?

It's the generic description. RS has similar ones, but I have never
seen that type of base at RS, and I think you'll find the base comes
with the bulb, probably as some sort of circuit-board mounting.

Y'know, there are actual Delco stereo repair places out there; I took
my '79 stereo/CB-radio combination unit to one for amplifier repairs
a few years back. I think if you can find such a place, they'd have
those bulbs in stock (and probably up front because they need them a
lot). Paying them to replace the bulbs for you would cost a lot, but
you can probably just buy the parts if you feel lucky with soldering
iron skills.

- -- Andy

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:18:58 -0400
From: "James E. Brady III" <James.E.Brady.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: finishing a paint job!

>with enamel paint you use a reducer and "optional" hardener
>if you didnt use the hardened,, dont try to wet sand it
>
If you are using Dupont paints I strongly recomend the Special Pack 2000
hardener.  It is $60 and treats one gallon.  If you follow the directions
exactly you will get a glass looking finish.  The regular hardeners are a
must but the paint job will look okay without hardener it probably will be
less resistant to scratching.  Good Luck.

Jim Brady

1973 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/JimDelta.html

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:34:24 -0400
From: Jim Olson <jolson@edzone.net>
Subject: Re: Radio Dial Lights

Hobby shops would also be a good source for the miniature lights. They
are used widely on model train and doll house applications.

Jim...

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:00:36 EDT
From: "Norm Baier" <nbaier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 455 fender braces

Very interesting! Never occured to me to make my own. Thanks!

Norm Baier
Woodstock, GA
66 442
72 CS Convert.

- ----Original Message Follows----
To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
From:	Glenn Connors <gpc442@buffnet.net>
Subject: Re: 455 fender braces
Date:	Tue, 13 Oct 98 1:56:14 EDT
Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

At 03:29 PM 10/12/98 EDT, you wrote:
>On a related topic... does anyone know where these braces might be 
>available... NOS 
>
>or repro? TIA
>


       If your referring to the tubular braces at the bottom front of 
the
fender to the forward support, you can make them yourself rather
inexpensively.  All you need to do is go to your local hardware store or
home supply store and purchase a length of 1/2" metal conduit for wiring
runs.  Using a vise, crush the ends flat at the appropriate angles (may 
take
a couple of tries at it to get the desired angles).  If you have an old
support piece to work with, it would probably be easier to replicate the
angle of the two bends you'll need to make in it.  I would suggest using 
a
couple of small pieces of wood between the vice jaws and the tubing so 
you
don't mark it up.  After you get the right bends formed drill your bolt
holes in both ends and either file or gring the corners off the ends to
round them. Then sand the galvanized finish down to a smooth surface and
spray paint them Satin Black.  Looks just like the original.


      Glenn
      '69 4-4-2




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:06:22 -0400
From: "Brumm, Bruce" <bdbrumm@ldmtech.com>
Subject: ignore -- test -- rule  processing

just testing, folks;  have to keep both lists separate in the Inbox now!

Bruce D. Brumm
bdbrumm@ldmtech.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:25:56 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: POR-15

A couple of things I'd like to pass on about this product.

Use a foam brush to apply where you need a nice smooth surface. Almost
looks like it was sprayed! The very small celled, two piece, glued on
the side, dull in color brushes work best. The one piece, shiny brushes
pale in comparison. Or use a china bristle brush. The cheap poly bristle
brushes leave lots of bristle marks - best to avoid them.

Use Xylol or Xylene to thin and cleanup instead of lacquer thinner. It
appears to make the paint flow easier, and works better at eliminating
brush marks. Another benefit of Xylol is it will not cause the foam
brush to swell, like lacquer thinner will.

I found Xylol to not harm the polycarbonate lenses in my glasses - your
mileage may vary!! Painting with the POR-15 and not changing my glasses
was pretty stupid! It's amazing how little dots of the stuff get
everywhere when your being so careful and taking your time! Now I've got
a $38 glass Wal-Mart pair for crawling under the car, general wrenching
and POR-15 painting.

Dryed POR-15 is easier to remove from oily skin than dry. Maybe putting
some hand/skin lotion on your face, hand and arms might help if you
don't cover up.

- -- 
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:41:39 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: compressors, air wrenches

I'd suggest buying the largest you can afford, within reason. A vertical
is the way to go. Much easier to transport, move around and store. Takes
less floor space. Dual voltage is nice, as is a twin cylinder model.

If you can afford it, I'd get the Craftsman 40 gallon vertical. 6 or 6.5
hp motor, dual voltage. It can run just about tool. It costs less than
the 33 gallon 6 hp twin cylinder 220 model I bought two years ago. With
a Craftsman Club discount, it's a pretty good deal, in my opinion.

I just bought the Craftsman 600 ft/lbs air gun (600 reverse, 450
forward). Compared it with the Ingersol Rand model. Same thing, $10
cheaper, twice the warranty (2 year). On a certain credit card, that's
three years. Where's that harmonic balancer bolt I need to loosen . . .
- -- 
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:47:45 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Need Engine ID

Sounds like a '49 - '64 Olds Rocket block. 303, 324, 371 or 394. Not a
455. That casting number is similar to these early blocks.

Does it have a 1 1/8 type fractional number by the casting number? If
so, what is it?

Did it include an air cleaner? What is written on it? Is the oil fill
tube angled or straight?

At the rear of the block, does it have a 6-7" in length bellhousing?
Does it have an intake with runners that are open between the runners
and lifter valley? Does it have a sheet metal shield in front of the
front-most intake runners? Does it have a 3" (front to rear) timing
chain shelf? These things indicate an early rocket engine.

A 455 will have a letter ID code (about 1" high) near the right (some
near the center) of the timing shelf. The heads will have a letter ID
code on them, driver's - near rear of alternator, passenger - near
firewall. Any of these (including a number instead of letter) indicate a
later (260, 307, 330, 350, 400, 403, 425, 455) rocket block.

- -- 
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:13 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Need Engine ID

Sounds like a '49 - '64 Olds Rocket block. 303, 324, 371 or 394. Not a
455. That casting number is similar to these early blocks.
_________

That was my thought, especially given the valve covers that say "OLDSMOBILE
ROCKET".  Only the early motor valve covers were stamped with this script.
The later (73-75) script valve covers just say "OLDSMOBILE".  Also, how
many bolt holes are on each valve cover?  455s will use 10 bolts each,
while the early V-8s only used 4, I think.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:50:57 -0600
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: compressors, air wrenches

I second the bigger is better suggestion.  Compressors come in at least
2 flavours.  
One is low pressure/high volume for painting and the other (more common)
is high 
pressure/low volume.  If you have a large enough tank the low volume one
will
also do for painting even large items like an entire car.


David Brown wrote:
> 
> I'd suggest buying the largest you can afford, within reason. ...

Cliff Simpson
'69 442/400/th400/3.23p

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:46:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "bball@exchangecom.net" <bball@exchangecom.net>
Subject: ADV: ... 1031 exchange help

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:03:04 -0400
From: "E.J." <oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Need  Some Assistance]

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I'm going to try and post this again, and hope i get some sort of
response. Could someone who's "been there and done that", at least give
me some input/feedback on some traansporters. I would really appreciate
it, thanks.

EJ
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 11:15:48 -0400
From: "E.J." <oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net>
Reply-To: oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net
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Greetings all fellow automotive enthusiasts.
I'm one of those generally quiet "side-line-digest-observers", that 
lurks about here.

I need to expand my "automotive field of vision", close to 1100 miles
!!!!.

Meaning, i'd like to know if anyone on the list is, and or knows someone
close to Oconto Falls 
Wisconsin. 

I'm going to be pricing flights into and out of Green Bay(Oconto Falls
is supposed to be approx. 
30 miles north of Green Bay).
I'd like to avoid the expense of flying out there, if at all possible,
considering this car does
not run and will have to be transported back to New Jersey. I'm
"guestimating" this will cost 
close to a $1000, above and beyond whatever i actually end up paying for
it.

So, i guess i'm wondering if someone could check this car out, as a
favor, and or even someone i 
can pay within reason to do so, whether it be on a private and or
professional/business level. 

I'm in the Trenton, New Jersey area(close to Phila and NYC) and would be
more than happy to return
a similar favor to someone in the future. 

I'm not looking to make this a major inconvenience for someone, so if
your not relatively 
close to Oconto Falls, i would'nt want to bother you. 

Also, any info and or recomendations on a transporter ?  Cheap is always
good for the wallet, 
but at the same time, i don't want someonewho's gonna leave there with a
"# 3" kind of car, 
and show up at my door with a now "# 5" car, and deny damaging anything
if you know what i mean.

Please e-mail me privately if you can help, with the exception of the
transporter info and 
recomendations. The transporter stuff is probably something everyone can
benefit from.


Thanks To All In Advance
			"EJ".


			





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"EJ"
Hamilton Township(suburb of Trenton)
New Jersey
On digest, not regular
mail                                                 
                  
                                  				
1979 Pontiac Trans Am T-tops(403 organ donor for the Calais)
     For Sale. Info at www.1pontiac.com - Bulletin Boards - Cars For 
     Sale/Wanted - 79 T/A For Sale - E.J. posted Aug.29, updated Sept
     28. and Oct. 1(sorry if i knew how to make a link directly to this 
     i would !, open to some "how-to" on it). Try this ...
    
http://www.1pontiac.com/cgi-bin/1pontiac-cgi/webbbs1-cgi/config.pl?read=3492
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais T-Tops 5.0L 307 4bbl-TH350-2.14 gears K+N 
     (soon to be 6.6L 403 4bbl-Performer Cam(mild) and Intake).
1985 Olds Toronado 5.0L 307 4bbl-AOD(newly acquired Sept. 98). 
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0L 302 EFI HO-AOD-3.27 gears
     inner fender baffle removed-K+N.
1992 Ford F-250 Reg-Cab 4WD 7.5L 460 EFI-E4OD Auto-3.55 gears.
     3-inch converter-dual outlet flowmaster 3 chamber.
     Complete K+N(no more factory air-box)-ADS Super Chip-Spitfires-
     Accel Super Coil-Cap-Rotor & 8.8 wires.
1994 Toyota Camry Sedan 4-banger-(Wow we could have had a V6!)-"mili
     -liter"-AOD. K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!) 
     My SO's rider

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:22:22 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Need  Some Assistance]

Took me about $1,400 to get a car from San Francisco to Amsterdam about 2
years ago, including insurance.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: E.J. [mailto:oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 9:03 AM
> To: toro@armchair.mb.ca
> Cc: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: [Fwd: Need Some Assistance]
> 
> 
> I'm going to try and post this again, and hope i get some sort of
> response. Could someone who's "been there and done that", at 
> least give
> me some input/feedback on some traansporters. I would really 
> appreciate
> it, thanks.
> 
> EJ
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> 

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:47:24 -0400
From: "Gary J. Couse: Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: G-body List Merge.

To all that have become members to the cross platform G-Body@listbot.com
list, please be advised that we are merging with the Mark Tuppers Olds list.
You will need to s*bscribe directly to that list at:
http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/ and uns*bscribe from the cross platform
version. I will than shut it down.

Let's all rally together to make the OLDS G-body list the best we can. After
all, we all do drive the best auto's in the world!

Don't think I'm biased do ya.

Mark; Congrats on our new G-body list. I'm by your side should you need any
help at all.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
 ÿ
'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:52:53 -0400
From: Todd Morris <toddmorr@us.ibm.com>
Subject: W30 FS in NY

There is an interesting 70 W30 for sale in Rochester NY, advertised in
TraderOnLine.  4 sp, no A/C, acqua colored, original paint, 60K miles he says,
numbers match, PDB, PS, no rust, interior is clean, basically an unrestored
original in fine running shape, or so he says.  $6500.  Strikes me as
potentially a good deal.  Can anyone near Rochester NY take a look at it and
report back?

Todd Morris
71 442

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:58:29 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: Which tranny in an auto 66 Delta 88?

What tranny would be in a 66 Delta 88 with a Hi-Comp 425? The shift indicator shows it is a 3 speed auto.  I am assuming
it is a TH-400. This a good tranny to keep with that motor for performance use? Thanks.

Jason Labay  Akron, OH jlabay@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/jlabay
98 Silverado C2500
80 Olds 442 W-30
75 Hurst/Olds W-25
72 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:10:43 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Which tranny in an auto 66 Delta 88?

What tranny would be in a 66 Delta 88 with a Hi-Comp 425? The shift
indicator shows it is a 3 speed auto.  I am assuming
it is a TH-400. This a good tranny to keep with that motor for performance
use? Thanks.
___________

Yep, should be a TH400.  1966 was the first year for the TH400.  Positive
ID by the tranny pan, which looks kinda like the state of Texas if you
squint (OK, that's a stretch, but it's the only GM trans with such an
irregular pan.  Most others are rectangular or rectangular with a corner
cut off).  TH400 is probably the foremost performance automatic out there.
A stout piece in stock form, and tons of beef up parts available.  Only
problem with the B-car version is the long tailshaft.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:16:24 -0700
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Pics going down soon.

... Gosh, my first cross-post. . .

I'm almost out of space on my ISP account and will be deleting a few
things to make room for more.

If you haven't seen them already and wish to do so, go check out the
Puget Sound and Northern Lights OCA Chapter's Olds Weekend at Grand
Coulee Dam.  http://www.ior.com/~tlentz/coulee.html

Pics will be going down soon!

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com
http://www.ior.com/~tlentz

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:50:26 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: W30 FS in NY

Todd Morris wrote:

> There is an interesting 70 W30 for sale in Rochester NY, advertised in
> TraderOnLine.  4 sp, no A/C, acqua colored, original paint, 60K miles he says,
> numbers match, PDB, PS, no rust, interior is clean, basically an unrestored
> original in fine running shape, or so he says.  $6500.  Strikes me as
> potentially a good deal.  Can anyone near Rochester NY take a look at it and
> report back?
>
> Todd Morris
> 71 442

Red flag warning.  Power discs (or drums for that matter)
were not available on a 1970 W-30 4 speed car.

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:09:01 EDT
From: NjOlds@aol.com
Subject: Olds Weekend

         Hey List !  I went to the 14th annual Oldsmobile Performance Weekend
at Englishtown, NJ Raceway Park this weekend and it was great.  I took a lot
of pics, raced my Olds., made some friends, and won some prizes.  I put the
first bach of pics on my web page http://members.xoom.com/NjOlds.  I'll put
the rest up in a few days.  BTW my car ran real crappy, I'm almost ashamed to
say what I ran.!  
R/T 1.013 Bad     1/4 mile 19.023s @ 72.34mph (really bad).  I found out why
the Olds. was so slow,  I left it in O/D and I had about 80-100 lbs. of weight
in the trunk (STUPID). Oh well, maybe next time. 

Enio Perdomo
' 87 Olds CSB
http://members.xoom.com/NjOlds

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:24:39 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Olds Weekend

NjOlds@aol.com wrote:
> 
> R/T 1.013 Bad     1/4 mile 19.023s @ 72.34mph (really bad).  I found out why
> the Olds. was so slow,  I left it in O/D and I had about 80-100 lbs. of
> weight in the trunk (STUPID). Oh well, maybe next time.

The car shouldn't engage overdrive until to reach a constant speed.  I
know
with "Dr. B" the OD won't engage until I left off of the pedal at speeds
beyond
45 mph.  Maybe you need an adjustment here, aside from not knowing what
kind
of car you drive.  I don't think 80-100 lbs of weight in the trunk would 
result in substantially slow times.  Just my $0.02.

- -- 
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:25:47 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: W30 FS in NY

Greg Rollin wrote:
> 
> Red flag warning.  Power discs (or drums for that matter)
> were not available on a 1970 W-30 4 speed car.

Maybe the owner install an after market vacuum generator.  Who knows.

- -- 
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:33:01 -0500
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: G-body List Merge.

Fellow listers,

First, I'd like to take the time to apologize to Gary for starting *another*
G-body list... most of us on the "new" list, were busy preparing it, and we
missed Gary's announcement. I'd also like to apologize to The List for any
confusion, especially those that have joined up with Gary.

Please bear with us during our growing pains.


We are pleased though, that Gary, and his members, have taken the steps to
merge the two lists into one, and combine our efforts into making a working
G-body list, as an extension of The List.

>Let's all rally together to make the OLDS G-body list the best we can.
After
>all, we all do drive the best auto's in the world!


Thanks for the support... :)

>Don't think I'm biased do ya.

Nope...just smart. :)

>Mark; Congrats on our new G-body list. I'm by your side should you need any
>help at all.

Thanks Gary, but I'm not in this alone (thankfully)...and it looks like
there will be plenty of work to go around. We all have a stake in this, and
any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.


So, for all interested.. you can subscr*be to the Olds G-body List by
signing up at:
http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

Once you are subscr*bed and verified, you can post messages to:
olds_gbody@listbot.com

Hope to see *all* of you there...

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:19:27 -0500
From: "Darrin Johnson" <xdarrinj@ti.com>
Subject: 71-72 core support wanted

Wanted: radiator core support for a 71-72 442 in good to excellent
condition.  Must be for a 4 core radiator.  Prefer location in Texas,
Oklahoma, or Louisiana to avoid shipping.

Darrin Johnson
xdarrinj@ti.com
djohnsn@ibm.net

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:20:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: G-body List Merge.

I would also like to offer my thanks to Gary and Mark and all those who
worked so quickly to get this idea off the ground. I was incredibly
impressed at how fast things came together for not only one, but 2 lists.
Well done, and good luck. Any h*lp/advice I can give, feel free to ask.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:27:28 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: parts for sale

Chris

Do you want to sell a 442

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:25:11 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Y2K Compliance of onboard computer

At most, maybe if you have that ETA onboad-serves-no-real-purpose
controls that tell you when you get there, you may lose that, I'd guess
at worse (unlikely), you'll have to unplug the battery sometime early in
2000 If the internal clock somehow fails to rollover and just stops (Not
likely, but again is a minor annoyance that is most of the Y2k garbage
anyways)

Just guessing,
Eric Aksomitis
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/eric.shtml

Philip Calvert wrote:
> 
> I own a 1989 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme that has a digital dashboard.  I
> would like to know if the onboard computer is Y2K compliant.  If not,
> does it even need to be in order to operate effectively  on 1/1/2000?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phil Calvert

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:34:21 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: 68 olds 442

Jeff

There is a worked Pontiac rebuilt engine up in Jersey. Tell me if you want it.
I can get it to you

Monkey

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:37:54 -0700
From: John Sinclair <johnsinc@telusplanet.net>
Subject: 1998 Olds Intrigue GLS

Greetings!

Where would I get a durability report on the 1998 Olds Intrigue? It's been
in production for about 14 months. So far I haven't seen any reports on
reliability, trouble spots and frequency of repair. My provincial
automobile association doesn't have the info.

Magazine write-ups on the Intrigue are good.....but only as far as road
performance, equipment, comfort,and styling are concerned. The car was
introduced in August 1997 as a new 1998 model and, consequently, has no
published durability record.

My problem is essentially a timing problem. Automobile durability reports
for the preceeding model year typically show up in the spring, which in
this case would be March 1999. My plan is to evaluate the 1999 Intrigue
now, based on its 1998 durability record, and hopefully buy the car now
instead of next March. But I dont know anything about its durability and
I'm, consequently, concerned about spending around $30,000 CDN on it. 

Thanks for your help!

John 

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:46:10 PDT
From: "adam olson" <olson_adam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Need '64 Drums

Try giving J deCristopher a call he has an ad in hemmings motor news. He 
carries many brake parts. I got a set of drums for my 65 vista cruiser 
from him for about $80 a drum plus shipping.
Adam Olson
Greenfield, Wi

>From oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca Sat Oct 10 12:29:51 1998
>Received: by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id <33357-8594>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 
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>Date:	Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:29:00 -0300 (ADT)
>From:	Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
>To:	Oldsmobile <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Subject: UNBOUNCE: Need '64 Drums
>Message-ID: 
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>Not on the list, respond to Jose.Trejo@pactel.COM if you can assist.
>
>Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From:	Jose.Trejo@pactel.COM
>Subject: Drums
>
>Does anyone have or know of any place where I can get some drums for a 
1964
>F-85/Cutlass????  Like an idiot, I went through mine.......AGAIN!!!!  
Also,
>the front right and left fender wheel well mouldings......though right 
now
>the drums are A LOT more important!!!!.  Thanks.
>
>


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:46:29 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: W30 FS in NY

Todd

What is the address of the w30 in Rochester?

Monkey

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:53:51 EDT
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: parts for sale

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Sure want to sell my 70 442, take a look at the pics and lets talk, Thanks
Chris 910 487-1540

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