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oldsmobile-digest     Sunday, September 27 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1510



Re: digest reply (a/c comp)
Re: Fw: OLDS-CUTLASS-F-85 1962 Convertable
streering pump ID
Re: String re-visited
Re: Tapes of the Olds show from speed vision.
Re: Need a posi!!!
Re: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?
Re: Should I buy?  (G-body price q)
Hurst Shifter Info Needed
Re: digest reply (a/c comp)-R-12
Re: Tri-power off-idle was: Non Olds
Re: Of W and SE, SF, SG, SH was "The Q That Would Not Die!"
72 cutlass S
1959 air-matic suspension manual
Re: Hurst Shifter Info Needed
rear end
Everyone lists their cars
RE: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?
last call for list member discounts
RE: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?
Beating a dead horse..
Re: [Toro] Beheading
Paging Tom Millard
1966 F85
re: spares
1 of 78??!!
Re: Firenza GT
Re: 1966 F85
Re: 1 of 78??!!
Re: 1 of 78??!!
15th anniversary edition
Re: Aurora rentals?
RE: 1 of 78??!!
Re:  Everyone lists their cars
Re:  RE: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?
Re: Info needed on 69 442
Re:  15th anniversary edition
Re: rear end
UNBOUNCE: Olds Cutlass Supreme 3.4 1991
UNBOUNCE: ISO 72 Cutlass S
UNBOUNCE: [Toro] Beheading
Re: 15th anniversary edition
Aftermarket Radio
Re: Aftermarket Radio
KEYS?
Re: Aftermarket Radio
Re: KEYS?
Re: 1 of 78??!!
Re: Everyone lists their cars
RE: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Aftermarket Radio
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
RE: Everyone lists their cars
RE: Everyone lists their cars
RE: Everyone lists their cars
Re: last call for list member discounts
Re: Info needed on 69 442
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:15:45 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: digest reply (a/c comp)

Joe, I've tried various and sundry replacements for r-12.  The only
substantial and permanent success came from 134-a.  We've tried three
alternatives to r-12 with very bad results.  Relentless puking of
compressors was yhe foremost of these.  We use Pennzoil products in the shop
exclusively.  Last year our rep was pushing Frigic as the world's a/c
salvation, but he hasn't said squat about it this year.  I'll ask him what
the corporate experience has been, now that Frigic has some age on it.  I'll
report again when I've talked to him.  We've had good success with
converting to 134-a from r-12.  Easy to do, good results, low cost.  Peter.

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:26:16 EDT
From: Toronado68@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fw: OLDS-CUTLASS-F-85 1962 Convertable

I don't rreally know what the price would be,  those car never gained much
appreciation like the 64-70 cutlasses, Anyway, try car & parts magazine. They
list those prices according to the car's condition. When you come with a
price, please klet me know. I maybe interested in purchasing it.
you can e-mail me at TORONADO68@aol.com
Thanks   R.E.Oletta

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 08:59:59 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: streering pump ID

how can one tell the difference between 73-74 power steering pumps
and 75-76 power steering pumps?

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:00:11 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: String re-visited

it would be called a flex additive or a flex agent and would be made by the
paint manufacturer of your choice remember use the same brand
throughout......kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary J. Couse: Cutlass IROC-SS <gjcouse@francomm.com>
To: Oldsmobile@Chebucto. Ns. Ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 11:00 PM
Subject: String re-visited


Some time back there was a string about a paint additive that modifies the
paint to a more flexible state for parts that are plastic. On a fresh, (200
miles or so), paint job I'm noticing a few spiderweb cracking going. What
was that product('s) name?

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom

gjcouse@francomm.com <mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:14:39 EDT
From: BigCrawdad@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tapes of the Olds show from speed vision.

I would like one copy.
Thanks
Ron Crawford
69 442

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:27:49 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: Need a posi!!!

they cost about 450 and are available from california differential the
address eludes me right now but will post it tomorrow..kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: StafRT007@aol.com <StafRT007@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 5:12 PM
Subject: Need a posi!!!


>Does anybody have or know where I can get a 3-series posi for a 1970 "O"
type
>12 bolt?  I know they aren't common but somebody has got to have one
they're
>willing to part with.
>
>Thanks
>
>Ryan

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:30:24 -0400
From: "RC Hellebuyck" <mrhell@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?

>Someone asked me if I could scan the special Olds keys I have.  I'll
>proably have access to the scanner tomorrow, so just let me know where to
>send the image.  Igor?  someone else?
>
>Ray


Hi Ray,  I'd like to see a picture of those keys.  Send to:
mrhell@sprynet.com        Thanks.

=====================================================
RC Hellebuyck  -  1971 4-4-2 covt.  -  OCA Member #30213
See my car and 44 other Olds' at:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mrhell

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:51:52 EDT
From: JCRASH7@aol.com
Subject: Re: Should I buy?  (G-body price q)

In a message dated 9/26/98 2:13:17 AM Central Daylight Time, buehner@lyrea.com
writes:

> > I know for sure that it is between 84-88
>  > Built 350 (Edelbrock heads, carb, etc...)
>  > THM350 Trans
>  > 3.73 Limited slip rear end
>  > Good paint with a couple minor rust spots
>  > Don't know about rims or tires
>
>  If all the above are correct, then the actual question should read "~WHEN~
>  should I buy!?!?"  But.  Odds are it's a bit misrepresented.  Perhaps a 350
>  chev, with Edelbrock valve covers.

Yeah, it might well be a 350 Chevy, all I know is that it's a 350.

Some people don't know the difference
>  between heads and covers.  They're lucky to pinpoint ~anything~ beyond that
>  large round thing...
>
>  Or, it ~could~ be a gold mine waiting to be uncoverred...  :)  Hey, ya
know,
>  that 3.73 posi's gotta be worth at least half that, eh?  Let us know more
> when
>  you see it up close and personal like.  Take down the casting numbers of
the
>  engine, etc, and keep us posted.
>
I'm a rookie-  where are the casting #'s located?

Joe

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:19:16 EDT
From: MrExMt@aol.com
Subject: Hurst Shifter Info Needed

Hi to all,
Does any one know the address or phone # for HURST. I have a shifter in need
of a rebuild & they have a life time guarantee. I cannot find them or dont
know where to look on the web.
Thanks
Leigh
'68 Cutlass S Convert

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:49:02 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: digest reply (a/c comp)-R-12

Joe,
Heard about that stuff, never seen it. Will try Penz. site. Lets us know
how it does. Blew an a/c hose on the 75, (before the deer), r-12 is getting
very scarce around here. plus the price six months ago, my cost was 24.50.
Now it's close to 40.00.
Lou Biggs
- ----------
> From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: digest reply (a/c comp)
> Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 12:09 AM

> I just found out about a new freon replacement called FRIGC-12 (or
FR-12).
> This stuff is distributed my Penzoil and is claimed to be non-toxic,
> non-flamable, and a much closer match in properties to R-12 than is
R-134.
> The oil is compatible and you don't have to flush your R-12 system before
> adding FR-12.  If you go to the Penzoil web page (www.penzoil.com),
you'll
> find a link with an 800 number, which lets you request a free video on
> converting to FR-12.  Got the video, looks simple (it always does).
Given
> that the system on my new 69 442 doesn't work now (the compressor is
> missing), I may have to try this stuff.  I'll let you know if I do.
>
> Joe Padavano
> padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
> 66 442
> 68 W-30
> 69 H/O
> 69 442
> 70 W-30

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:55:33 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Tri-power off-idle was: Non Olds

Karl,
Yes, bogs, has mechanical progressive linkage on it. I'll go through it
good and lets you know, Thanx.
Lou

- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Tri-power off-idle was: Non Olds
> Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 2:06 AM
> The 1957 J-2 sixpack was a vaccuum operated setup (Karl needs specs).
>
> The 1966 W-30 sixpack has a tricarb linkage.
>
> A "flat spot" (bog?) out of the gate.
>
> Sounds like a carb problem.
> (And you did say 2 2G+1 2GC?)
> If linkage is set correctly, then set the idle of the 2G carbs slightly
> richer.
>
> The 2G ( , C, V) carb is actually pretty nifty and has decent off-idle if
> properly set.
>
> Perhaps the linkage needs adjustment.
> (Hell, he prolly needs to rebuild all three!)
>
> 2GC carb SHOULD be opening just before 2G carbs do.
>
> If all 3 open at the same time then yah! you are gonna end up with a
massive
> flat spot.
>
> Nothing anyone can do about it.
> It is the massive air charge hitting the cylinders before of the signal
can
> draw fuel from the venturii.
>
> That is why one opens first.
>
> SOm
> &KA

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:06:05 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Of W and SE, SF, SG, SH was "The Q That Would Not Die!"

Karl,
Blame deer, otherwise I wouldn't have time to send ca ca.
I did read however, very informative.
Lou

- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Of W and SE, SF, SG, SH was "The Q That Would Not Die!"
> So, blame Lou if this tedious (I knew I should have deleted all the oil
> posts!).
>KA

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:22:38 -0400
From: Donald Marks <dmarjem@interpath.com>
Subject: 72 cutlass S

Is there any one out there in NC, SC, or VA looking to sell a 72 cutlass
"S" 2 door coup for parts.  All I need is the body (rust free or only
minor surface rust please) and possible the interior.  An engine and
trans. is not needed.  Please send response and asking price to
dmarjem@interpath.com

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:51:25 EDT
From: SIDIALI@aol.com
Subject: 1959 air-matic suspension manual

 <A HREF="aol://1722:ebay">eBay item 32378057 (Ends 09/29/98 07:40:51 PD...
</A>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:46:45 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Hurst Shifter Info Needed

Hurst Performance
8700 Brookpark Road
Cleveland, OH 44129-6899

(216) 398-8300
8:30-5:00 EST

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(days??)


Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                        Bucks County, PA

On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:19:16 EDT MrExMt@aol.com writes:
>Hi to all,
>Does any one know the address or phone # for HURST. I have a shifter
>in need
>of a rebuild & they have a life time guarantee. I cannot find them or
>dont
>know where to look on the web.
>Thanks
>Leigh
>'68 Cutlass S Convert
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:09:25 -0300
From: Wade M Hunt <wade.hunt@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: rear end

I found the rear end code on my 69 442 today.The ratio of the rear end
is supposite to be 3.57. It has a chev rear end with the code
R  F-0429k-.Can anyone tell me if this is right.
 E
The old girl started right up after not being started for a couple of
months.It hasn`t been on the road in 11 years. Motor only has less than
20000 miles on,but it sounded like it turned a bearing when I reved it a
little.This would be just my luck as I was just getting around to doing
something with the car after all these years.
                                             wade.hunt@ns.sympatico.ca

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:15:20 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Everyone lists their cars

To all:
THE LIST.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
67 442 "White Ghost"
75 CS "The Deerslayer"
91 GMC Sonoma "The Deer Hunter"
96 Gran Prix " The Untouchable"
73 Vega "The Undrivable"
PS Please no replies, good or bad

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:57:29 -0400
From: urbanch <urbanch@magi.com>
Subject: RE: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?

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I'd like one if its not too much trouble?

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From: 	Ray Costanzo
Sent: 	Friday, September 25, 1998 9:00 PM
To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: 	KEY SCANNING, IGOR?

Someone asked me if I could scan the special Olds keys I have.  I'll
proably have access to the scanner tomorrow, so just let me know where to
send the image.  Igor?  someone else?

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                        Bucks County, PA

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:12:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: last call for list member discounts

Hello all...

Everything seems to be going smoothly with getting the discounts... it
looks like everything is go and I'll be sending them a member list
Tuesday.  For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about... I've
been working on getting some discounts for list members.  Looks like I've
succeeded in getting discounts from Year One... who manufactures and
distributes restoration parts for mid to late 60's and early 70's Cutlass,
442, etc. and general applications too.  They have a catalogue dedicated
to these Oldsmobiles.  To get the discount I need your name and address
(surface mail... not e-mail).

Send all mail regarding this to float@lazarus.ehc.edu
another e-mail address of mine... to keep things seperated.

Haven't gotten as much of a response as I would have expected... just
under 60 names... if you are interested and haven't contacted me yet...
this is the last call for alkeehol... as it were... I'm sure that I'll be
able to add other names as time goes on... perhaps once a month... but the
list goes out Tuesday... surface mail.  I'll send another reminder
Tuesday.

The following are the names of those I have on the list.  If there is an
asterisk "*" nexst to your name... I need to get your mail address.
Please contact me by Tuesday if this is the case or I won't be able to add
you to the list.

Kerry Kroger*
Stephen Hoover
Darrin Johnson
Sam Johnson
Todd Morris
Matt Cremean
Bob Lavey
David Popadic
Ken Swick*
Bobby Etzel
Chris Sparks
Jay Britt
George Aigeldinger
Gib Loudon
Steven Saraceno
Gary Couse
Jose Trejo
Kyle Tilbe
Steve Utick
Darrell Frizsell
Joe Dessel
Bob Iozia*
Don Casteel
Charley Buehner
David Welsh
Karl Aune*
Don Sowers
R.C. Hellebuyck
Dan Williams
Blaine Sanders
Mike Rothe
Richard Scott
Clayton Pierce
John Kreitzer
Tim Keenan
Corey Day
Jim McKeague
Mark Hahn
Tom Reardon
Dick Compton
Ben Jacks
Tom Williams
Todd Thomas
Randy Geisel
John Pajak
Ken Snyder
Mike Shokouhi
Steve Reed
Edwin Burger*
Chris Miller
Bernie Segebade
Greg Zimmerman*
Dan Jones
Ulysses Melen
Rick Kromeich
Brian Kerr
Adam Broussard
Edward Armenta



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     work:  GQPR12E@Prodigy.com
 |  |  |
 | / \ |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 |/   \|
  \   /      1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
   \ /          (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
    |           http://www.442.com/pierce.html
	     1980 Rover 3500 SD1
		(215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:29:57 -0400
From: "Gary J. Couse: Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?

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Ray;

I'd like to take a gander at them too !

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs
gjcouse@francomm.com <mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com>

"Quincy" = 1986 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS



<>----------
<>From: 	Ray Costanzo
<>Sent: 	Friday, September 25, 1998 9:00 PM
<>To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
<>Subject: 	KEY SCANNING, IGOR?
<>
<>Someone asked me if I could scan the special Olds keys I have.  I'll
<>proably have access to the scanner tomorrow, so just let me know where to
<>send the image.  Igor?  someone else?
<>
<>Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
<>                        Bucks County, PA
<>
<>___________________________________________________________________
<>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:42:20 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Beating a dead horse..

Sorry to beat a dead horse but I must ask this question because I am
looking to replace my interioir in my 72 442.

Which company should I go with?

Brothers
Tamraz
Parts Place
Fusick
Year One

I am looking for quality products such as skins, conv't top, rubber......
I don't want crap and don't want ot get ripped off. I don't want to learn
the hard way so  by asking members on this list about experiences they had
I can make my choice.....


Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:57:46 -0700
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: [Toro] Beheading

Douglas Kitchener wrote:

> Toroids,
> Had a cell call earlier from Sparky up in moose (badger?) country, updating 
me
> on the beheading of the Flamer.

All,

I'm back from the shop, all in once piece, a few skinned knuckles, some
scratches, an aching back, and PLENTY of dirt under my fingernals!

I must say, that pulling the heads wasn't even half as bad as I thought it 
would
be! (: Evidently many of you had more faith in me than I did myself,
ability-wise, and you were correct. A Piece of Cake! Well, let's just say I got
REALLY lucky and leave it at that.

I pretty much followed the manual and with a few pointers from the List's 
engine
God's, it was pretty text book. No snags or surprises. Bing, bang, boom, and I
had it all part.

I took at least 20 pictures so far, and I will shoot at least that many more as
I slap this puppy back together and make it a winter FAQ project.

OK....here are the findings:

1. ALL cylinders in tact and looking good! (no holes) YIPPI!
2. All cylinder walls smooth as a babies butt (no scoring and barely a
detectable ridge). 3. Valley, although devoid of chunks/debris was fairly full
of black, clay-like crud. 4. Valves slid right out of the head when spring was
removed (only did a few cylinders).

On the offending #7 cylinder: The intake valve looked to be perfect. Although,
the exhaust valve was fairly pitted and obviously leaked. It looked like it was
hitting the seat ok, but the porous nature of the valve lip has to be the
problem. No broken springs found, however, I do believe they were all pretty
weak.

No obvious open areas in head gaskets. Although that could be hard to tell.

So, I cleaned everything up with mineral sprirts, scraped off all the crud with
a putty knife, cleaned out the rusty crud in the water holes/returns and
cleaned the tops of the cylinders off with an air gun wire wheel deal.
Everything shines like new!

Everything was blown out with air nozzle. I approached this with almost 
surgical
suite cleanliness. GREAT care was taken not to let any dirt or junk fall into
the valley or cylinders. Each cylinder was stuffed with rags as I worked on
them, one at a time.

I squirted oil in each bucket and spun the engine over by the harmonic balancer
a few times to coat the cylinder walls, as I may not be able to get the heads
back and on for a week, more likely two or more.

So, heads off to the shop Monday for the valve job and exhaust manifolds to be
decked (major warpage there!)

All in all I was quite pleased with how it went. It's not too terribly hard, 
but
it does take time. Being the first time I ever have done this alone or with
anyone else for that matter, I don't mind telling you all, my knees were a
knockin' the whole time. (;

So far so good! Now, getting it back together and running will be another saga
I'm sure!

Thanks for all the he*p and support. Much appreciated as always. You guys (and
gals) are great!!!

PS...Please remember, I'm not on the Olds List at this time.

Sparky
- --
Greg "Sparky" Kalkhoff                        See the Sparkmobile
Toronado Chapter Webmaster               http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
Toronado FAQ Page Administrator
http://www.Toronado.org

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:53:19 -0500
From: Doug Newman <newmand@WCBI.com>
Subject: Paging Tom Millard

Sorry to do this over the list...

Tom,  I tried mailing you direct Friday, but got an "undeliverable"
return receipt.  Could you mail me direct?

Thanks,

Doug Newman         OCA # 30311
Columbus, MS         1987 442

newmand@wcbi.com

http://www.442.com/newman.html
http://www.442.com/newmantape.html

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:16:16 -0700
From: MIKE ROBE <icebear@sprint.ca>
Subject: 1966 F85

To anyone,

Next month I'm taking my '66 F85 off the road, and I'm finally going to
start doing the frame up restore I've been planning to do for the past 4
years. I live in Vancouver and I found it difficult to find parts and
info on older cars. Maybe I didn't look hard enough because I've been
putting off this project for a long time. I need to find body mounts
because the original ones are as thin as a dime now. Also I need window
sash moldings (2 door), both tail lights (one got burned by a bad
tailpipe) and is it still possible to get OEM headliner and carpet?
I'm not going to do a complete restore, too expensive and time
consuming. It's going to be a custom job, because I want to get rid of
the original 330 short block and the two speed tranny. (Somebody put
pollution heads on the engine before I had the car.) I'm planning on
putting a 350 in it coupled to a standard tranny.
Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Roger - email icebear@sprint.ca

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:15:20 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: re: spares

Ran up on and bought a complete 1966 98 two door Holiday.  It hasn't run in
ten years so it has been relegated to being a parts car for Redzilla.  It
can donate at least one of everything.  Paid three hundred for it.  Feeling
somewhat smug, too.  And I'm gonna keep it.  Peter.

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:23:51 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: 1 of 78??!!

At the Fast Freddies weekly show this evening, I saw a great looking '71 442
W-30 convert.  Claimed 112 made, his was an automatic version--1 of 78, the
plaque said.  Is this car really that rare?
 Everything was completely original...the red fenderwells look great!

Unfortunately, I didn't see any local Olds list members' showing...  :-(

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:12:49 -0400
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: Firenza GT

Okay, Ken , can you help this guy?

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com
Centennial Feature at http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

- ----------
> From: LowRide420 <zeus@pathwaynet.com>
> To: wmachine@en.com
> Subject: Firenza GT
> Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 10:36 PM
>
> I have an 87 Olds Firenza GT.  It seems to me that you worship
> Oldsmobile so i was hoping you could help me out here.  I really want to
> upgrade my Firenza to Mustang and Camero Status.  actually above them..
> cuz they annoy me thinking they are all that.  Is there a turbo charger
> i can get for the 2.8 liter V-6??  or anything that will boost
> horsepower?.
> -dave-
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:32:05 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 F85

At 06:16 PM 9/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>To anyone,
>
> It's going to be a custom job, because I want to get rid of
>the original 330 short block and the two speed tranny. (Somebody put
>pollution heads on the engine before I had the car.) I'm planning on
>putting a 350 in it coupled to a standard tranny.
>Any advice would be appreciated.
>

Its a pretty easy swap, I did it on my '66.
match the motor mounts to the car.
You might want to invest in a remote transmission filter kit.
I is quite a job to pull a th350 pan off once it is in a 66 car.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:29:05 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: 1 of 78??!!

At 09:23 PM 9/26/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At the Fast Freddies weekly show this evening, I saw a great looking '71
442 W-30 convert.  Claimed
>112 made, his was an automatic version--1 of 78, the plaque said.  Is this
car really that rare?

Oh I'm sure he could have made it much rarer if he got pickier about options.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:32:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: ttjbmm@webtv.net (todd thomas)
Subject: Re: 1 of 78??!!

Yes the car is that rare, it is 1 of 78 made, but my book (442 &
w-machines restoration guide) says that there was only 110  1971 442 w30
cutlass supreme convertibles made. I hope this answers your question.
Todd Thomas
1972w30

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:41:32 -0700
From: "Wade Wilkins" <naturechasers@hamilton.net>
Subject: 15th anniversary edition

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:42:31 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@cchat.com>
Subject: Re: Aurora rentals?

David1756@aol.com wrote:
>
> Auroras are available in Los Angeles from National Car Rental.  Rented one
> last spring.  It was great.  They can be found on the Emerald Aisle in  small
> numbers, but probably, if still in the fleet, as a premium car.

Heh heh...

Actually fleeted as a "D" Class..  That's Upper Premium, Lower Luxury
Class.  Last Spring they were new to us, and we didn't anticipate them
entering the fleet in large numbers...  Nor did we anticipate the Park
Avenue, and the Catera...  But we got them, and we still carry them.
But not as a "P", upclassed to a "D"

- --
                - Jerry Christopher -
IRC - EFNet:IThEFunKI - #SouthCarolina -#Olds - #Ford
       HTTP://Members.Viperlink.Net/IThEFunKI

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:44:23 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: 1 of 78??!!

On Saturday, September 26, 1998 2:29 PM, Bob Blanchard
[SMTP:bob149@efortress.com] wrote: > > Oh I'm sure he could have made it much
rarer if he got pickier about options.

Options?  His had a full 25 factory options, all still intact.  A/C, dual-gate,
rallye pac, etc.
 Very clean car.

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:03:05 EDT
From: JJP442@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Everyone lists their cars

My List:
1983 15th Anniversary Hurst Olds
1987 442

John, Queens, N.Y.
JJP442@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:07:43 EDT
From: JJP442@aol.com
Subject: Re:  RE: KEY SCANNING, IGOR?

Ray
I'd like one too please
John- Queens N.Y.
JJP442@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:49:38 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Info needed on 69 442

Joe, I've got a good idea for you.  Why not leave all insignia off and
fool everyone at the light, then smoke 'em BAD at the green?  I can
remember when the early SS Chebby lovers did this in St. Louis circa
1964,5,6.

69 442
________

Well, I'm certainly a big fan of sleepers, as my first car was a 68 Vista
Cruiser with a 425 that would embarrass the heck out of Mustangs and
Camaros (circa 1975-76).  This particular 69 442, however, is
numbers-matching, so I feel like I've got to keep it pretty much stock.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:12:26 EDT
From: JJP442@aol.com
Subject: Re:  15th anniversary edition

What are you looking for??
John- Queens N.Y.
JJP442@aol.com
83 H/O
87 442

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:13:21 -0500
From: Stephen Hoover <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Re: rear end

Wade M Hunt wrote:
>
> I found the rear end code on my 69 442 today.The ratio of the rear end
> is supposite to be 3.57. It has a chev rear end with the code
> R  F-0429k-.Can anyone tell me if this is right.
>  E
> The old girl started right up after not being started for a couple of
> months.It hasn`t been on the road in 11 years. Motor only has less than
> 20000 miles on,but it sounded like it turned a bearing when I reved it a
> little.This would be just my luck as I was just getting around to doing
> something with the car after all these years.
>                                              wade.hunt@ns.sympatico.ca


My book shows code "RF" to be an anti-spin (posi) "C" axle w/3.31 gears

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:29:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Olds Cutlass Supreme 3.4 1991

Not on the list, respond to forwine@cgocable.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"Peter van der Wijngaard" <forwine@cgocable.net>
Subject: Olds Cutlass Supreme 3.4 1991

Hi everyone,

I bought the O2 sensor which I want to replace, but with repair manual etc
in one hand I have looked and looked and I cant find it can someone give me
a detailed description on how to replace it and where to find it.

Thanks a million.

Peter

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:32:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: ISO 72 Cutlass S

Not on the list, respond to dmarjem@interpath.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Donald Marks <dmarjem@interpath.com>
Subject: 72 cutlass S

Is there any one out there in NC, SC, or VA looking to sell a 72 cutlass
"S" 2 door coup for parts.  All I need is the body (rust free or only
minor surface rust please) and possible the interior.  An engine and
trans. is not needed.  Please send response and asking price to
dmarjem@interpath.com

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:39:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: [Toro] Beheading

More in the continuing saga of Sparky's Toro, you can congratulate him at
gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com  :)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: [Toro] Beheading

Douglas Kitchener wrote:

> Toroids,
> Had a cell call earlier from Sparky up in moose (badger?) country, updating 
me
> on the beheading of the Flamer.

All,

I'm back from the shop, all in once piece, a few skinned knuckles, some
scratches, an aching back, and PLENTY of dirt under my fingernals!

I must say, that pulling the heads wasn't even half as bad as I thought it
would be! (: Evidently many of you had more faith in me than I did myself,
ability-wise, and you were correct. A Piece of Cake! Well, let's just say
I got REALLY lucky and leave it at that.

I pretty much followed the manual and with a few pointers from the List's
engine God's, it was pretty text book. No snags or surprises. Bing, bang,
boom, and I had it all part.

I took at least 20 pictures so far, and I will shoot at least that many
more as I slap this puppy back together and make it a winter FAQ project.

OK....here are the findings:

1. ALL cylinders in tact and looking good! (no holes) YIPPI!

2. All cylinder walls smooth as a babies butt (no scoring and barely a
detectable ridge).

3. Valley, although devoid of chunks/debris was fairly full of black,
clay-like crud.

4. Valves slid right out of the head when spring was removed (only did a
few cylinders).

On the offending #7 cylinder: The intake valve looked to be perfect.
Although, the exhaust valve was fairly pitted and obviously leaked. It
looked like it was hitting the seat ok, but the porous nature of the valve
lip has to be the problem. No broken springs found, however, I do believe
they were all pretty weak.

No obvious open areas in head gaskets. Although that could be hard to tell.

So, I cleaned everything up with mineral sprirts, scraped off all the crud
with a putty knife, cleaned out the rusty crud in the water holes/returns
and cleaned the tops of the cylinders off with an air gun wire wheel deal.
Everything shines like new!

Everything was blown out with air nozzle. I approached this with almost
surgical suite cleanliness. GREAT care was taken not to let any dirt or
junk fall into the valley or cylinders. Each cylinder was stuffed with
rags as I worked on them, one at a time.

I squirted oil in each bucket and spun the engine over by the harmonic
balancer a few times to coat the cylinder walls, as I may not be able to
get the heads back and on for a week, more likely two or more.

So, heads off to the shop Monday for the valve job and exhaust manifolds
to be decked (major warpage there!)

All in all I was quite pleased with how it went. It's not too terribly
hard, but it does take time. Being the first time I ever have done this
alone or with anyone else for that matter, I don't mind telling you all,
my knees were a knockin' the whole time. (;

So far so good! Now, getting it back together and running will be another
saga I'm sure!

Thanks for all the he*p and support. Much appreciated as always. You guys
(and gals) are great!!!

PS...Please remember, I'm not on the Olds List at this time.

Sparky
- --
Greg "Sparky" Kalkhoff                        See the Sparkmobile
Toronado Chapter Webmaster               http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
Toronado FAQ Page Administrator
http://www.Toronado.org

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:42:19 -0700
From: "Wade Wilkins" <naturechasers@hamilton.net>
Subject: Re: 15th anniversary edition

Center caps & emblems, thanks
- -----Original Message-----
From: JJP442@aol.com <JJP442@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: 15th anniversary edition


>What are you looking for??
>John- Queens N.Y.
>JJP442@aol.com
>83 H/O
>87 442
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:51:03 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Aftermarket Radio

I was looking to install an aftermarket radio in my 72 442. It has the
original AM/FM "stereo" radio in it. I want to install a radio that will
fit like the original WITHOUT any hacking. One that will play cassettes and
or CDS. I heard of a company that makes radios "look" like they belong in
the car but are actually cassette and CD palyers. Year One sells something
similar for $290.00.

Anyone out there familiar with that field? I want to install something that
sounds great but looks stock (to a certain degree of course).

Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:04:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Radio

- ---Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> I was looking to install an aftermarket radio in my 72 442. It has the
> original AM/FM "stereo" radio in it. I want to install a radio that
will
> fit like the original WITHOUT any hacking. One that will play
cassettes and
> or CDS. I heard of a company that makes radios "look" like they
belong in
> the car but are actually cassette and CD palyers. Year One sells
something
> similar for $290.00.
>
> Anyone out there familiar with that field? I want to install
something that
> sounds great but looks stock (to a certain degree of course).
>
> Pettrix@prodigy.net
>
>
- -----Last time I checked those were either Pioneer or Kenwood based
units....I know the ones advertised in Hemmings are....
                Sman

==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:49:53 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: KEYS?

Did y'all get the key-scan?
Regards to Mr. Snyder at netcarrier.

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                        Bucks County, PA

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:48:13 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Radio

RULE NUMBER ONE:

NEVER BUY AUDIO EQUIPMENT FROM AN AUTOMOTIVE SOURCE.

It is rare to find a quality brand iin any automitive catalog or store.
You need to go to a car stereo source.

I am amazed at how some people can completley build a car from the ground
up, build a 700 horspower small block in their garage in two days, do all
bodywork and paint theirselves, and everything else that is involved.
And then, they go ahead and put in some piece of crap audiovox stereo.
Why?  Because it's in Summit, I suppose.  And for some reason, those who
can build cars never seem to be able to understand how to properly wire
and install a stereo.

Ray's opinions:

Alpine, Kenwood, Eclipse, Sony, Clarion:  yes
Pioneer: maybe
JVC, panasonic, audiovox, sanyo, sparcomatic: no

And never EVER buy anything from Radio Shack!

Actually, I just picked up a 12 volt cooling fan there today for my amps.
 damn hypocrite.

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                        Bucks County, PA
On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:04:49 -0700 (PDT) S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>---Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to install an aftermarket radio in my 72 442. It has
>the
>> original AM/FM "stereo" radio in it. I want to install a radio that
>will
>> fit like the original WITHOUT any hacking. One that will play
>cassettes and
>> or CDS. I heard of a company that makes radios "look" like they
>belong in
>> the car but are actually cassette and CD palyers. Year One sells
>something
>> similar for $290.00.
>>
>> Anyone out there familiar with that field? I want to install
>something that
>> sounds great but looks stock (to a certain degree of course).
>>
>> Pettrix@prodigy.net
>>
>>
>-----Last time I checked those were either Pioneer or Kenwood based
>units....I know the ones advertised in Hemmings are....
>                Sman
>
>==
>John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
>TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
>1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
>http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
>Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
>-http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts
>
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:56:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: KEYS?

- ---Ray Costanzo <rocket409@juno.com> wrote:
>
> Did y'all get the key-scan?
> Regards to Mr. Snyder at netcarrier.
>
> Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass

>                         Bucks County, PA

- ------Uh....nope...all I got was text....it ~showed~ attachment....but
it was just text.
               John
==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:13:28 -0400
From: "Johnny Gage" <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: Re: 1 of 78??!!

Sorry Jason...  I was at home washing the car, and putting a couple things
back together, and I had to go run a call...  ended up being a long one...
you prolly saw us go by...  I was in teh back ding the CPR and stuff...  I
kinda sniffled as we went by, I would much rather have been there with you
guys, than where I was, doing what I was doing...

Glad you had fun tho...

Jeff
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
To: 'Olds List' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 8:35 PM
Subject: 1 of 78??!!


>At the Fast Freddies weekly show this evening, I saw a great looking '71
442 W-30 convert.  Claimed
>112 made, his was an automatic version--1 of 78, the plaque said.  Is this
car really that rare?
> Everything was completely original...the red fenderwells look great!
>
>Unfortunately, I didn't see any local Olds list members' showing...  :-(
>
>Jason Adcock
>Blacksburg, VA
>E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
>Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock
>

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:16:21 -0400
From: "Johnny Gage" <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Ohhh...  cant resist!

92 Saturn SL1 "Anne Marie"
81 Monte Carlo  "Mozart"
85 E-150 Van "The Tank"
and last, but certainly not least:


1967 Olds Toronado Deluxe "Blue Thunder" Or "The Batmobile"

- -----Original Message-----
From: JJP442@aol.com <JJP442@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars


>My List:
>1983 15th Anniversary Hurst Olds
>1987 442
>
>John, Queens, N.Y.
>JJP442@aol.com
>

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:06:02 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Everyone lists their cars

Alright, alright...these aren't ALL mine, but cars in my immediate 
family...with
nicknames I'm making up right now.  :-)

1984 Cutlass Calais Coupe (known simply as "The G-Body")
1988 Jeep Cherokee Chief (known as the XJ--actually the correct term for you
Jeep afficionados) 1992 Ford Crown Victoria (known as the "Cop Car") 1996 Jeep
Grand Cherokee (known as the ZJ)

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:15:09 EDT
From: MFATZII@aol.com
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Radio

In a message dated 9/26/98 10:42:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
rocket409@juno.com writes:

<< Ray's opinions:

 Alpine, Kenwood, Eclipse, Sony, Clarion:  yes
 Pioneer: maybe
 JVC, panasonic, audiovox, sanyo, sparcomatic: no
  >>

don't forget....

JL Audio, Polk, Nakamichi :yes
Pyramid, Kraco, SAAB, FORD, Jenson :no

The thing to remember here is that everybody has their own opinions on what to
own...  I have several different brands of components.  I built a system to
fit "my style of listening"  Brands don't make much difference in what I'm
about to say......My system consists of a digital deck where from there I ran
the front leads into an eq (2 in four out on the eq) and the rear leads to an
amp that has a bridgable third capability.  The fader on the stereo controls
the amount of frequency sent to the eq  or the amp  (whichever I want the most
sound from)  The fader on the eq fades from the front (Factory speakers  with
add on tweeters and the proper crossovers or "caps" as some people call them)
and the rear of the car (deck mounted Blaupunkt 6x9's)  Fading on the stereo
(when turned towards the rear) enhances and increases the sound the amp
delivers to the 3- 12" subs. Then just for kicks the 10 disc changer is
mounted where the glove box used to be........all of this of course is in the
Beretta but the stereo in the 56 will be soon updated from the detatch face
cassette and 6x9's to something a little louder.

As for Olds content....I had a guy tell me that my car would never be a hot
rod....and another couple of guys tell me that NO Olds could keep up with his
Monza (sb 350 bored .40 and an Holley 850 bla bla bla)  Wish some of you guys
from the list were there to help me out.  The one kid had a 61 falcon (yes his
stupid light was on)

Oh well I still can't wait to cruise around town making a lot of noise and
atleast TRY to blow the doors off people..........

Ryan (MFatzII@aol.com)
Lincoln,   Nebraska  (Home of the Cornhuskers, too bad they suck !)
<<Turn it on, Wind it up, Blow it out, OLDS-MO-BILE>>

56 88 4dr Sedan  (Project Rocket)
<A HREF="http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/rides/wieders2/">Click here</A>
85 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
89 Chevy Beretta CL


    888            888
  8      8       8       8
  8      8       8       8
    8  8           8   8         LIVES
  8      8       8       8
  8     8        8       8
    888            888

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:17:28 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

My List:

1962 Olds Starfire
1968 Hurst/Olds

Elmont, NY

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:22:11 EDT
From: MFATZII@aol.com
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Pool Shark's list


56 88 4dr Sedan  (My Project Rocket)
<A HREF="http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/rides/wieders2/">Click here</A>
83 Cutlass Supreme Brougham (mom's)
85 Cutlass Supreme Brougham (girlfriend's)
89 Chevy Beretta CL (Mine)


MFatzii@aol.com    Ryan

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:23:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Casteel <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: RE: Everyone lists their cars

'68 442 convertible (body shop now, who knows when it'll come out)
'85 Cutlass Supreme (one owner)
'98 Silhoutte (wife's ride)
'95 Pontiac Bonneville SLE (for sale)

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:24:40 -0700
From: "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net>
Subject: RE: Everyone lists their cars

1975 Delta 88 Royale Convertible 455ci
1994 Chevrolet Silverado Crew Cab Dually Extended bed 454ci

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:02:05 -0400
From: "John H. Edmonds III" <edmonds@UU.NET>
Subject: RE: Everyone lists their cars

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1967 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible
1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:07:02 EDT
From: SIDIALI@aol.com
Subject: Re: last call for list member discounts

Alex Killian
p.o. box 50035
Mobile, AL 36605

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:24:46 -0700
From: "John Young" <realtorjohn@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Info needed on 69 442

I'll try to measure this week!
realtorjohn@sprynet.com
69 442-W32

- ----------
> From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Info needed on 69 442
> Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 6:49 PM
>
> Joe, I've got a good idea for you.  Why not leave all insignia off and
> fool everyone at the light, then smoke 'em BAD at the green?  I can
> remember when the early SS Chebby lovers did this in St. Louis circa
> 1964,5,6.
>
> 69 442
> ________
>
> Well, I'm certainly a big fan of sleepers, as my first car was a 68 Vista
> Cruiser with a 425 that would embarrass the heck out of Mustangs and
> Camaros (circa 1975-76).  This particular 69 442, however, is
> numbers-matching, so I feel like I've got to keep it pretty much stock.
>
> Joe Padavano
> padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
> 66 442
> 68 W-30
> 69 H/O
> 69 442
> 70 W-30

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:27:55 -0700
From: "Mike Lias" <mlias@thegrid.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:24:57 -0400
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

1981 Vokswagen dasher Diesel
1966 Mercedes 250s (for sale)
1986 Volkswagen Jetta GL
1973 delta 88 455 (sadly for sale)

- ----------
> From: JJP442@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re:  Everyone lists their cars
> Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 10:03 PM
>
> My List:
> 1983 15th Anniversary Hurst Olds
> 1987 442
>
> John, Queens, N.Y.
> JJP442@aol.com

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