From: oldsmobile-digest <oldsmobile-digest-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: oldsmobile-digest@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile-digest@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 9:13 PM
Subject: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1546



oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, October 11 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1546



Site with oodles of parts yards
Gainsville track
Re: Impact wrenches
Re: disk brake VS drum brake stuff
Re: NEW
Re: Gainsville track
Re: Gainsville track
Re: Karls Roch page.
Re: Gainsville track
Re: Karls Roch page.
Re: Gainsville track
RE: Gainsville track
Re: Gainsville track
Re: Karls Rochester Page
Web pages - Non Olds
Re: Gainsville track
Re: Gainsville track
Re: Web pages - Non Olds
More Disc brake conversion Q's
What Karl means by - Non Olds
Re: Need Valve covers was Disk brake vs. drum brake
Re: is this a junkyard or amusement park....same difference.
Re: Karls Roch page.
Re: Karls Roch page.
Re: is this a junkyard or amusement park....same difference.
Re: another cry for H**P
Re: Gateway computers, non-Olds
Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's
Re: 86 442 production #'s
Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's
rear end
Re: Need Valve covers was Disk brake vs. drum brake
Parts Manuals on ebay
RE: rear end
Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's
Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's
Re: Trunk molding
80's Cutlass in a hurter of a movie
Re: Impact wrenches
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 05:14:54 -0400
Re: rear end
Re: Parts Manuals on ebay/hershey
An idea to reduce noise level on list (Was Re: What Karl means by - Non Olds)
Re: POR-15 {Who sells it}
Re: Impact wrenches
Re: An idea to reduce noise level on list (Was Re: What Karl means by - Non
Olds)
Car Craft - No 14" Rims??
An idea to reduce noise level on list
My visit to the "Volo 4-4-2"
how to hotwire a 66 Delta 88?
Re: Impact wrenches
Re: Impact wrenches
Re: Impact wrenches
Re: Can any one Identify this Olds?
Re: UNBOUNCE: Need Engine ID
Re: An idea to reduce noise level on list
Paging Doug Kitchner
Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's
SSII/SSIII Wheels
I bought it !!!!   86 442
New Thermo
Re: Impact wrenches
Olds 455
Delta 88 saves Pierce Brosnan!
86 442...slight damage
Re: One mans conquest with an Oldsmobile.
Re: 80's Cutlass in a hurter of a movie
RE: Can any one Identify this Olds?
Re: Impact wrenches
Re: disk brake VS drum brake stuff
Re: Suspension
Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's
Re: Disc brake boosters
Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:14:56 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Site with oodles of parts yards

Check out this parts yards site. Lists many different parts yards in many
states...!!!

           http://autop.com/yards_all.html


Mike....





I go flying..........
...................so high,
.....................................when I'm stoned.
                                                "Harry Chapin..."

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:36:04 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Gainsville track

Ran to second place broke out. Dialed a 11.62 ran a 11.61 lost to a 14
sec chity
      butch 68 442  post

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:41:03 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

<< Recent posts have reminded me that I want an impact wrench some day. My
question is, are the electric ones worth having? My air compressor is too
small to handle air tools >>

I've never had good luck with the electric ones.
You can get a compressor that will run air tools for about $200.
If it puts out 5 CFM@90 PSI it will run most things except an
air drill.

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:50:10 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: disk brake VS drum brake stuff

>            1.    What is the difference between 67-72 disk and drum power
>brake boosters

there seems to be no difference.

>            2.   Can I bolt a disk brake master cylinder to me drum brake
>unit and have it function .......

People have done it, I wouldn't. I'd replace the booster while doing the
disk brake swap(its old and 1/2 the car is torn apart anyways).


>            3.    I have a proportioning valve - combo style - should I
>mount on frame or below MS

the frame is fine for stock exhaust, but not for headers

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:00:59 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: NEW

Thanks for the websites

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:06:00 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gainsville track

Too bad. Where is the Gainsville track?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:15:35 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Re: Gainsville track

Gainesville florida    north central of state   butch


Monkey2351@aol.com wrote:

> Too bad. Where is the Gainsville track?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:18:53 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Karls Roch page.

In a message dated 98-10-11 09:48:12 EDT, you write:

<< Karl, I clicked on your address today twice.  Both times I was told the
page
no longer exists.  S'up dat?  Peter.  >>

Karl accessed it with AOL and NetNav4.

FC dont seem to like aol much but NetNav has been much better.

FC also seems to have growing pains, like the email sys is down until God only
knows and the HTML browser needs a good "talking to" with a large blunt
object, and...

And to other FC "tenants", #858 is Vacant property!!!

Yah, already contacted support on that.

Incidentally, as of about 4-5am central time, a Rochester search did not turn
the page up although Karl did have the meta tags in...

Gotta find a way to get the searchers to find this.

Keep trying and lemme know.

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:39:10 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gainsville track

I race a souped up 442 at The Englishtown Raceway Park!

What do you race?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:40:09 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Karls Roch page.

How do you create a website?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:47:34 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gainsville track

In a message dated 98-10-11 12:41:22 EDT, you write:

<< I race a souped up 442 at The Englishtown Raceway Park!
  What do you race? >>


Auto part bill collectors!

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
Got Roch?
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:48:45 -0400
From: "Gary J. Couse: Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: Gainsville track

I'm supprised your not attending the swap meet this weekend.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com

'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

<>-----Original Message-----
<>From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
<>[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Monkey2351@aol.com
<>Sent: Sunday, October 11, 1998 12:39 PM
<>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
<>Subject: Re: Gainsville track
<>
<>
<>I race a souped up 442 at The Englishtown Raceway Park!
<>
<>What do you race?
<>

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:52:50 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gainsville track

Gary-
I have pneumonia!

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:59:03 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Karls Rochester Page

In a message dated 98-10-10 10:59:43 EDT, you write:

<< Looks like a great start.  But, what's up with that graphic on the home
page?  Looks like two or three of my cars.  Peter. >>

LATE REPLY; Karl knew little HTML. Used stock Home Builder  (ALL templates
Sucked [somehing that should be mentioned on RT, not here] !!)

In an attempt to make an attempt at cool-ness Karl tried to select a stock
photo.
(pshhhhht!)
Only one Karl liked was the Formula collision. Too many pristine formula one
or indy cars in the stock pix.

BTW I booted the site in 10sec, but Prolly cached on the Maelstrom.

Got access to a fax machine that could double as a scanner, so IF Karl
recieves permission, Exploded diagrams are not out of reach.....

This could be ~VERY~ cool.

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:06:44 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Web pages - Non Olds

This is non-Olds and IS being sent privately

This is a subject to inquire of your ISP.
(Internet Service Provider)
Not for the Olds list.
The digest folks don't need it.

K

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:06:08 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Re: Gainsville track

I run an old grannys car  {at least the thats what the competition calls
it }
   68 442 post 455 auto  4.11 gears

Monkey2351@aol.com wrote:

> I race a souped up 442 at The Englishtown Raceway Park!
>
> What do you race?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:16:38 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gainsville track

Is yours a convertible?
What is your highest speed ever reached?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:17:11 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Web pages - Non Olds

What do you mean?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:26:27 EDT
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: More Disc brake conversion Q's

will a disc brake set-up off a 69 cutlass fit my 67 cutlass convertible with
no probelems??? if it wont.....what is diffrent?

Thanks
Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible (being painted as we speak)

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:38:24 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: What Karl means by - Non Olds

In a message dated 98-10-11 13:19:46 EDT, you write:

<<  What do you mean? >>

What do I mean by yes?
What do I mean by no?
What do I mean by no, no, no...?
What do I....

(Insert the obligatory 50 ton weight)

Bear with Karl here, NOT slamming you!!

The "welcome" message you recieved when you were accepted to the Oldsmobile
mailing list server specified that the content of Email postings should
concern Oldsmobiles and that Emails where the entire content would consist of
"Yeah, I agree!" or similar trivial content is frowned upon.

In short Non-Oldsmobile content.

Do you see the massive footer at the bottom of this post?

People who subscribe to the Oldsmobile digest (oooh, hope this does not
subscribe me! Greg??) get approximately 4 emails in three days. Each one is
just over 60K in Emails. Karl not recall the average # of posts per digest,
but call it 45 or so. The digest is all posts "back to back" or top to bottom
really. 45 different footers is a LOT of garbage in your Email.

While Karl is at it, one other thing that is VERY important that is also in
the welcome message. DO NOT send image files to Oldsmobile@chebucto !!!!
Because when this happens, the digest gets nuked with ASCII garbage which is
the plain text interpretation of the photo.

But as long as Karl is scribing, tell us about your Olds- year, options
condition, time in the 1/4....

Stil not "harshing" you.
Just know how it feels to get a LOT of crap on the digest!

SOM

&KA

SOM = "Soylent" Ocean Mist (factory color)
1965 Dynamic 88 Celebrity Sedan
Http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html
Got Roch?
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:42:46 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Need Valve covers was Disk brake vs. drum brake

In a message dated 98-10-11 13:18:54 EDT, you write:

<< 350 smallblock engine >>
1975 car...

Actually, Dave Brown might be the person to contact.

Factory lettering on the vc's was in block letters and script.

Dave has been collecting different vs's and is in the best position to say
what years had what script.

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:57:46 EDT
From: "Norm Baier" <nbaier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: is this a junkyard or amusement park....same difference.

Where was this wonderful place, and what was the name? I'm in Woodstock,
GA, but if the yard is in the Atlanta Metro area, it's not too far for
me! TIA

Norm Baier
Woodstock, GA

66 442
72 CS convert

- ----Original Message Follows----
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:01:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: is this a junkyard or amusement park....same difference.
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca


- ----Hi Gang,
        Found an interesting junkyard today....they actually charge
$1.00 admission !!! This place is really cool though...nice paved
parking lot, posted prices (cheap), porta-pottys throughout the yard,
even an engine hoist....in the yard in case you need it !!! Lotsa
G-bodys and Deltas :)
        OK...Olds content....what I scored....digital dash cluster
from a Regal (still has the turbo V-6 in it), a like new set of 85
grilles, 2 late model Ralley Pacs (left the 78-80 one there), a near
perfect brown/dk Burgundy console, and even a set of end caps for my
"dealer" T-tops in Topless....4 end caps...$1.00+ tax!!! What a deal :)
      Going back next weekend....at least one late sport wheel
(leather wrapping about shot, but all intact )lotsa griiles, even some
of those little chrome seat thingys for the reclining buckets....if
anyone needs anything hit me direct with wish list and top price (they
didn't have the price listing printed to give out yet), and I'll keep
my eyes out.....it was soooooo nice....this yard only had like 3
Camaros....and can't say that I saw a single Gran Damn....:)





==
John McJunkin ( The Sman ) mailto:super442@yahoo.com
  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:58:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu>
Subject: Re: Karls Roch page.

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 KarlAune@aol.com wrote:
>
> http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/.index.html

Karl's page works much better WITHOUT the period in front of index.html!

Lookin' good Karl!



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
|  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
|  |  |
|  |  |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
| / \ |
|/   \|     1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
  \   /         (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
   \ /          http://www.442.com/pierce.html
    |        1980 Rover 3500 SD1
        (215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
          1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
(260 V8, 2bbl, TH350)
http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/79cutlass.html
     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:12:09 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Karls Roch page.

In a message dated 98-10-11 14:01:54 EDT, you write:

<< Karl's page works much better WITHOUT the period in front of index.html!
Lookin' good Karl! >>

S'pecially considerin it was written 'tween 2 and 6 am. Yah!

Karl gots good HTML sorces.

But the FC editor don't like  at the beginning of a HTML file!!!

Saved a LOT of pages that came back with the error "File contains no data!"
with no good reason!!

All things considered Karl could have been better off sinking money into the
Mazda back in1995...

NAH!

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:13:34 -0400
From: "person" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: is this a junkyard or amusement park....same difference.

Where, Oh Where Is This Heaven-On-Earth?????
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

'69 Olds Ninety-Eight Topless Bubba
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary J. Couse: Cutlass IROC-SS <gjcouse@francomm.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: is this a junkyard or amusement park....same difference.


Yeap, Sounds like what I imagined Olds Heaven to be like. But where's the
band and Margaritas, and ushers that take you right to that part you can't
find anywhere.

Like I've previously mentioned. I'm looking for '86 grills.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com

'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

<>-----Original Message-----<>
<>>----Hi Gang,
<>>        Found an interesting junkyard today....they actually charge
<>>$1.00 admission !!! This place is really cool though...nice paved
<>>parking lot, posted prices (cheap), porta-pottys throughout the yard,
<>>even an engine hoist....in the yard in case you need it !!! Lotsa
<>>G-bodys and Deltas :)

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:23:12 -0400
From: "person" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: another cry for H**P

Would they fit '69 455? I have C's on mine. Where are you located?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



'69 Olds Ninety-Eight Topless Bubba
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ben <olds442@primenet.com>
To: olds mail <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 12:51 AM
Subject: another cry for H**P


>Here's another cry for H**P...
>
>I MUST sell my heads also. They are not going to be used by me again and
>I will not be getting another engine for them in the near future. I want
>them to get a good home. Shout it to the mountain tops of all that you
>can reach!
>
>1 set of 'C' heads from a 68 400
>2.02/1.68 valves, guideplates, roller tipped rockers.
>valve job less than a year ago (complete 3-way job)
>I know the value of these heads aswell as the money I have put into
>them.
>I am asking 450 obo
>
>again thanks
>DESPERATE BEN!!!
>
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:28:46 -0400
From: "person" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Gateway computers, non-Olds

Just my opinion...... Why lease a Gateway??? Lease a Dell... You drive an
OLDS, you expect the best....... www.dell.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


'69 Olds Ninety-Eight Topless Bubba
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Camilli <bcam@vel.net>
To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: Gateway computers, non-Olds


If your going to lease go to Micron Computers

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ray Costanzo [SMTP:rocket409@juno.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 5:09 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Gateway computers, non-Olds

Which reminds me....
Has anyone had any experience with that lease a computer from Gateway
deal, and get trade-in value at the end of the contract, etc.  A computer
seems like the only thing logical to lease since it'll suck in a couple
of years anyway...  opinions?  Thanks
Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:07:29 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

At 01:26 PM 10/11/98 -0400, you wrote:
>will a disc brake set-up off a 69 cutlass fit my 67 cutlass convertible with
>no probelems??? if it wont.....what is diffrent?
>

yes

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:11:59 -0600
From: Matthew Mayer <mmayer@interaccess.com>
Subject: Re: 86 442 production #'s

RCKTPWR@aol.com wrote:
>
> How many 1986 442's were made? How many had the factory sunroof? Is that
> considered rare?
>
Bernie,
  Mike Rothe hit it on the head - 4,273 made.  According to Ed Stauchak
at the Olds History Museum, 937 came witht the  sunroof.  (Mine is
aftermarket, dammit!!)  Relatively rare....but a keeper either way...

- --
- ---Matt
Chicago, IL

- --------------------------------------------------------
mailto:mmayer@interaccess.com    |  VM: 800-481-1323
- --------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:46:35 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

Brent

A disc brake is exactly the same from a 69 as a 67.

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:49:07 PDT
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: rear end

Hey,

    Im looking at a 84 cutlass with a 6 in it ,and i need to know what
kind of rear end the one's with 6's had.
any info would be great.

Thanks
      Ryan.


  My  -------   -------
            /  |
           /   |
          /     ------
         /            |
        /             |
       /        ------    DELTA 88
Ryan D Beck
           Riviera72sss@hotmail.com


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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:50:32 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Need Valve covers was Disk brake vs. drum brake

Where is he at?
How much is he asking?
What kind of condition are they in?

Thanks
Jonathan

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:53:49 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Parts Manuals on ebay

Folks,

Just returned to the list after a brief hiatus for Fall Hershey.  A
friend that came to Hershey has consigned a set of '63 Olds parts books
for me to list on ebay for sale.  Starting bids are $9.99 on each one.
No reserves.  See the following sites:

Body Manual
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=35188154

Chassis Manual
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=35190120

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:00:51 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: rear end

On Sunday, October 11, 1998 3:49 PM, Ryan D [SMTP:riviera72sss@hotmail.com]
wrote:
>
>     Im looking at a 84 cutlass with a 6 in it ,and i need to know what
> kind of rear end the one's with 6's had.
> any info would be great.

The axle has 7.5" ring gear and any of the following gear ratios:

3.8-liter V6 (gasoline) w/ TH-200-C transmission: 2.41, 3.08, 3.23
4.3-liter V6 (diesel) w/ TH-200-C transmission: 2.41
4.3-liter V6 (diesel) w/ TH-200-R4 transmission: 2.93

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://jadcock.home.ml.org

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:10:19 EDT
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

The brake booster will be too large and will be very close or not fit at all.
You may--as noted in previous posts--have to use an original non disc power
booster from a '66-7 because it's the only GM part that will fit and not hit
your valve cover.
Peter
'66 442 conv
'67 CS 400 conv
'66 442 trak pak
...ALL of the above with self installed discs.

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:28:22 EDT
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

In a message dated 98-10-11 16:12:10 EDT, you write:

<< The brake booster will be too large and will be very close or not fit at
all.
You may--as noted in previous posts--have to use an original non disc power
booster from a '66-7 because it's the only GM part that will fit and not hit
your valve cover.
>>

so when i eventually decide to put the discs on my 67..........should i just
leave the manual set-up that is now on the car on? this would then make it a
manual disc car. would this be my best bet??

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible (beng painted as we speak)

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:47:55 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Trunk molding

> Todd
>
> Sorry for not getting back to you about the chrome.  I have been
> hospitalized with kidney problems.
> I had a type of surgery this week.  As soon as I am more mobile I will
take
> the chrome off and the vinyl strip.
>
> Thanks
>
>

Sorry All This Wasn't supposed to be on open list
My  Boo - Boo



Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:46:16 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: 80's Cutlass in a hurter of a movie

> >     Im looking at a 84 cutlass with a 6 in it

Ok, it's not everyday you see the main characters in a movie driving
around in a Cutlass, I was flipping through the channels today and I
caught a glimpse of a G-body Olds driving along.   Had to stop and find
out about this.  The movie turned out to be Halloween III, which,
basically sucked, but the "stars" had to have some class in that they
were driving around in what APPEARED to be an 83 or 84 Cutlass Supreme,
which, dig this, HAD BUCKET SEATS AND CONSOLE!  Manual crank windows,
but no vinyl top.  Getting a good look at the car was tough, since they
sorta panned around a lot.

They ended up wrecking into a tree!  Dammit.  Fine looking ride too.
The guy driving got out, and I noticed the Supreme emblem behind the
opera window.  It didn't have the sport wheel though.  Couldn't tell if
it had gages or not.  It did have a strange radio in it.  It had the
woodgrain around the radio, however it had an am/fm with the knobs on
either side of the dial face, unlike those "box radios" I'm used to
seeing.

Oh well, just thought I'd pass that along.  Don't see too many Supremes
with buckets.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 05:13:40 -0400
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

Get a compressor! As far as brand. Ingersol Rand is the best impact gun I
have ever used in 20 years of wrenching.

- -----Original Message-----
><< Recent posts have reminded me that I want an impact wrench some day. My
> question is, are the electric ones worth having? My air compressor is too
> small to handle air tools >>
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 05:14:54 -0400
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 05:14:54 -0400

unsubscribe oldsmobile

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:01:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Nathyn M. Knipe" <nmknipe@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: rear end

more than likely it has a 2.41....but it doesn't necassarily have to
be...Nathyn

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Ryan D wrote:

>
> Hey,
>
>     Im looking at a 84 cutlass with a 6 in it ,and i need to know what
> kind of rear end the one's with 6's had.
> any info would be great.
>
> Thanks
>       Ryan.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:34:54 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Parts Manuals on ebay/hershey

>Just returned to the list after a brief hiatus for Fall Hershey.

Ah yes.......I visited the mud pit on Saturday.  A ton of great
cars.......felt sorry for the vendors. They must have had a dismal meet,
with all the rain and mud.

Randy

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:39:54 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: An idea to reduce noise level on list (Was Re: What Karl means by -
Non Olds)

> The "welcome" message you recieved when you were accepted to the
> Oldsmobile mailing list server specified that the content of Email
> postings should concern Oldsmobiles and that Emails where the entire
> content would consist of "Yeah, I agree!" or similar trivial content
> is frowned upon.

The noise level on this list seems to be getting ridiculous. One
change we might want to consider which would make for a painless
reduction in the number of postings is: Set replies to go to the
poster, not to the list.

Scroll through the followups and notice how many of them are
questions or comments directed at the person who posted the
original. I'm not even talking about whether they're Me-Toos,
jokes, or something more substantial; pretty often it's real
clear that the replier is talking to (or _thinks_ they're only
talking to) the original poster, not to the whole list. So let's
fix Majordomo to make that happen, and that way we won't be
drowning in hundreds of short postings.

This would not change anyone's ability to post to the list at
any time; it would only mean that when you want to direct a
short followup to the original writer, hitting Reply will still
do that for you as before, but without splattering the rest of
the list as well. Comments?

- -- Andy


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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: POR-15 {Who sells it}

I know that YEAR ONE sells it.  Don't know the price comparison, I've
never bought it, but i was looking in the catalog yesterday, and it's
in there.

Stefan
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe





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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:56:34 -0500
From: "John Kreitzer" <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

Hey,

Speaking of impact guns, the one's I have, understandably not the most
expensive on the market, but not super cheap, don't seem to have the "punch"
that they used to. I have a hard time breaking the lug nuts loose, much less
doing any serious wrenching. My compressor keeps the pressure up around 90 -
110 lbs. so I don't think thats the problem, but was just wondering if any
of you had an idea as to what could be causing the problem.
Oh yeah, Olds content, I use these guns to get the tires on and off my 72
Hurst. Back from the body shop yesterday and looking SHARP!!!!!

John
- -----Original Message-----
From: Edward Binnix <comid@jellico.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches


>Get a compressor! As far as brand. Ingersol Rand is the best impact gun I
>have ever used in 20 years of wrenching.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>><< Recent posts have reminded me that I want an impact wrench some day. My
>> question is, are the electric ones worth having? My air compressor is too
>> small to handle air tools >>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:59:10 -0500
From: "John Kreitzer" <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
Subject: Re: An idea to reduce noise level on list (Was Re: What Karl means
by - Non Olds)

Sounds like a plan to me. OOPS, was I supposed to send that privately. "Just
Kidding".
John
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew C. Green <acg_o@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 5:41 PM
Subject: An idea to reduce noise level on list (Was Re: What Karl means by -
Non Olds)


>> The "welcome" message you recieved when you were accepted to the
>> Oldsmobile mailing list server specified that the content of Email
>> postings should concern Oldsmobiles and that Emails where the entire
>> content would consist of "Yeah, I agree!" or similar trivial content
>> is frowned upon.
>
>The noise level on this list seems to be getting ridiculous. One
>change we might want to consider which would make for a painless
>reduction in the number of postings is: Set replies to go to the
>poster, not to the list.
>
>Scroll through the followups and notice how many of them are
>questions or comments directed at the person who posted the
>original. I'm not even talking about whether they're Me-Toos,
>jokes, or something more substantial; pretty often it's real
>clear that the replier is talking to (or _thinks_ they're only
>talking to) the original poster, not to the whole list. So let's
>fix Majordomo to make that happen, and that way we won't be
>drowning in hundreds of short postings.
>
>This would not change anyone's ability to post to the list at
>any time; it would only mean that when you want to direct a
>short followup to the original writer, hitting Reply will still
>do that for you as before, but without splattering the rest of
>the list as well. Comments?
>
>-- Andy
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:02:08 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: Car Craft - No 14" Rims??

I finally got my copy of Car Craft and turned straight to the G-body Builder's
Guide.  In that
guide, they have a "Nice Wheel/Tire Combo Sizes" box which lists wheel/tire
sizes that fit, nicely
I guess, into the wheelwells of G-bodies.  At the top of the list: "14-inch:
Forget it, only your
grandpa's car runs 14s."  What's with that?  IMHO, the 14" chrome SSIII wheels
are much cooler than
any of those 16" or 17" ROH, Momo, or whatever wheels they use now.  What kind
of justice do you do
to the car by putting on these super-modern rims on an almost-classic car?
Just because you can't
run the quarter in 10 seconds with 14" wheels, doesn't mean you can't look good
with 14s.

BTW, I think someone on the list (Oldsmagnet, maybe?) had a page up with the
different variations
of wheels.  I have a super crystal clear (I don't know how I did it with a
cheap scanner) picture
of an example of these SSIII's on my homepage:
http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock/cutlass/chromess3.jpg

Thanks for the soapbox space...

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://jadcock.home.ml.org

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:11:17 -0400
From: "Gary J. Couse: Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: An idea to reduce noise level on list

Please, everyone, include your e-mail address within your post. Many a time
I wish to reply privately but find no address of the poster. Some have their
e-address as there name. That works as I can type it in. No address, no
ability to privately return a response. Sorry Greg/List, no Olds content but
thought this suggestion warranted posting.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com

'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:14:16 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: My visit to the "Volo 4-4-2"

In a couple of months my wife and kids and I will be living just
a few miles from the Volo Antique Auto Museum, as we're building
a house in McHenry, IL, and this afternoon I was out inspecting
the construction, so I stopped by the museum on the way home to
get a closer look at that blue '69 W-30 that we've been talking
about here since last Thursday, when it appeared in the Chicago
Tribune Autos section.

In four display halls there they have quite a few Cutlasses, 442s
and other Olds (there was a W-31 there as well), and of all the
442s there, relatively speaking this one was the least interesting,
IMHO. Anyway, here are the details I wrote down:

VIN is 344879M210344. Window info sheet (museum's, not a factory
sticker) says it's a '69 W-30, matching numbers, a 400 4-spd, and
what it calls a "14-year-old 'customized restoration'" appraised
at $20,000, but with a "no-hassle" price of (*cough*) $18,995.
Color is blue on blue. Cragar S/S mags with Grand Am Super Wide G/T
tires, fat N50-15 size in back. Under bumper intakes look original
in installation, or at least nicely done. Numerous chrome pieces
under the hood, including some odd choices like upper A-arms, hood
hinges, rad support and A/C evaporator housing. M/T rocker covers,
MSD ignition. Front has the painted headlight doors we decided were
not correct, although they are at least neatly painted, and headlights
have those goofy chrome visors across the upper half of each light
that were so popular back in the late '70s/early '80s. Taillights
have blue dots. Sorry, I forgot to notice if it had red wheel wells.
They did not look red from above, in the engine compartment, FWIW.

Interior has underdash Suntune gauges and a Sun SuperTach stuck in
the right-hand pod where a TicTocTach would go. An aftermarket tape
deck, no brand visible, was installed. (What _is_ it with those cheesy
aftermarket tape decks that seem to be stuck into almost every nice
old dash as if by federal law?) Odometer shows 78K. But the feature
which induced the most cringing (and perhaps was added after that
supposed $20K appraisal) was a cheap pop-up sunroof carved into the
roof. Yuck.

So hopefully this will clarify things a little. The semi-annual
auction there is on October 24-25, although I don't know if this
car will be on the block. Frankly there were a _lot_ of others
I would buy before this one; don't let my description of this one
make you think it's not worth a visit out there!

- -- Andy

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:20:33 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: how to hotwire a 66 Delta 88?

Ok, I am not going to steal this car, it is in my junkyard and it has the
Hi-Comp 425 engine that I plan to put in my 72
Cutlass.  I have never tried to peel the column or hotwire a car with an
ignition on the dash. How can I get the car
started ~without~ messing up the dash? The dash in this Delta is in A-1 mint
shape and I do not want to destroy it.  I
have no keys for the car. I would really prefer a way to remove the ignition
lock from the dash than cut the wiring
harness if possible. Thanks.

Jason Labay  Akron, OH jlabay@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/jlabay

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:41:12 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

At 05:13 AM 10/11/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Get a compressor! As far as brand. Ingersol Rand is the best impact gun I
>have ever used in 20 years of wrenching.
>
>
I agree. I have a 450ft/lb Ingersol Rand gun and it has never failed to do
the job.

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:45:23 -0600
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

Probably the bore wear allowing too much blowby.  I'm not sure if these
things have rings or not.  Maybe you could re-build it:)

I assume that you have been putting air gun oil in once in a while.

Cliff

John Kreitzer wrote:
>
> Speaking of impact guns, the one's I have, understandably not the most
> expensive on the market, but not super cheap, don't seem to have the "punch"
> that they used to. I have a hard time breaking the lug nuts loose, much less
> doing any serious wrenching. ...

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:50:58 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

At 05:56 PM 10/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey,
>
>Speaking of impact guns, the one's I have, understandably not the most
>expensive on the market, but not super cheap, don't seem to have the "punch"
>that they used to. I have a hard time breaking the lug nuts loose, much less
>doing any serious wrenching. My compressor keeps the pressure up around 90 -
>110 lbs. so I don't think thats the problem, but was just wondering if any
>of you had an idea as to what could be causing the problem.

how much air is it moving at 90-100 PSI?

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:56:23 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Can any one Identify this Olds?

Wow that twin turbo Olds looks awesome!! Let alone a 455 can produce 500+
lbs of torque, now add 2 turbos, you may be looking at 700+. That would be
1 insane ride. Hope the tbottom end would hold up....
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: Jonathan Parke <jonparke@together.net>
> To: oldsnet <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Can any one Identify this Olds?
> Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 10:06 AM
>
> Rich Inacker (a fellow list member) recently sent me this link
> http://www.voicenet.com/~rinacker/2turbo/ to some great pictures of an
> interesting 67 Cutlass he saw.  From what he could see it had an Olds 455
> block, E heads with twin turbochargers (non-intercooled) dumping into
what
> appeared to be a stock Olds manifold modified for multi-port fuel
> injection.
>
> Any body know this vehicle and how to get in touch with owner?
>
> Also check out the rest of Rich's site (
http://www.voicenet.com/~rinacker
> ).  Very nicely done!
>
> jp
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:57:40 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Need Engine ID

With those numbers I would say that is not a 455 block FOR SURE. I doubt it
if is even an Olds block. may be Pontiac or Buick.....
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Cc: ander@elpn.com
> Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Need Engine ID
> Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 5:18 AM
>
> >
> >         Ijust got back from Albuquerque, I bought a motor block and
heads
> > for 50 bucks. The guy I bought it from said it was a "ROCKET 455". I
have no
> > idea how to tell. It has the following casting numbers on the top rear
of
> > the motor
> >  "CFD 568928". I also got the valve covers they say OLDSMOBILE ROCKET
chrome
> > ofcourse. and fit the heads which have the casting number "14" and no
other
> > markings.    Any and all will be a great h*lp!
> >                                         Neil Anderson
>
> Hmmmmm....sounds like a Pontiac motor to me. I seem to remember seeing a
> Pontiac engine in a drag car with this number on the heads. 421 maybe?
>
> --
> *************
> Matt Cremean
> mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
> 1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
> 1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
> 1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
> 1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
> **************************************************

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:55:55 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: An idea to reduce noise level on list

> Please, everyone, include your e-mail address within your post. Many
> a time I wish to reply privately but find no address of the poster.

Oh, yuck. Good point; that includes me on my Hotmail account (which
is acg_o@hotmail.com, BTW). Never got around to setting up a .sig
file, unfortunately.

This is something which would be taken care of automatically by
Majordomo, of course, once it's configured the Olds list postings
to be Reply-to-poster instead of Reply-to-list.

- -- Andy
...who promises to get his .sig file set up Real Soon Now  :-}

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:05:31 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Paging Doug Kitchner

If Doug is currently on the list, please mail me privately.
If someone has his e-mail handy, please forward it to me.

TIA

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
OCA# 30442

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:14:46 -0400
From: "Frederick S. Nissen" <FSNissen@Worldnet.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

Monkey2351@aol.com wrote:
>
> Brent
>
> A disc brake is exactly the same from a 69 as a 67.


If memory serves, the entire system will interchange (ie you can put the
complete '69 disc brake set up on a '67) but the systems were different
in several important ways from the factory.  Most notably, the '67 used
the 4 piston calipers, while '69 had the modern floating caliper set up.

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:13:28 -0400
From: "Mark Thurman" <Thurman@kvnet.org>
Subject: SSII/SSIII Wheels

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someone else.  Now for today's question - I found 2 SSIII wheels at the =
yard yesterday ($10 each & 1 had the cap with it - couldn't pass that =
up) but their 5 chrome bezels are different from my other 2 SSII/III? =
wheels that were on a parts car (wheels are gray and were on a '70 =
Supreme) I bought several years ago.  The 1st yard wheel is stamped =
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have (don't seem to have a full matching set of anything although my '70 =
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:23:10 EDT
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: I bought it !!!!   86 442

Went out to check it out, def gonna buy it.  Motor seized due to overheating.
Rebuilt trans w/receipts.
P/s  p/b p/sunroof  p/ant  p/trunk release  Beautiful SS II's (or are they
3's)  Nice interior.  Blue ext/grey bottom, blue int.  Hit in rear qtr, not
bad tho. I will be adding from my 86 Salon, p/seat  right side remote mirror,
fiber optic light system.  Very clean int. Eng bay spotless!! Tires are like
new, although odd. T/A radials, 215/65/15 front, 235/60/15 rear.  Oh yeh, tilt
wheel and pulse wipers.  Pontiac Mich is cool. In the 3 hrs i was there, i saw
a T/A challenger, 2 GTS vipers,  67 GT500 Shelby. 69 Z-28 camaro, 70 SS
Chevelle, 59 Caddy, 72 Challenger. No Olds
..:(  

Bernie

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:45:03 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: New Thermo

Hi list.  I was home this weekend, fixing up the car a little bit (changing 
oil, rot
ating tires,
restoring an emblem, etc.) and it was pinging heavily all weekend.  :-(  It
only happens after it's
fully warmed up, though.  I think a change to a 180-degree thermostat will help
out a lot, since
there seems to be a fine line between a ping-free temperature and one that sets
the marbles loose.
And, it seems to be around 200 or so.  I have a few dumb questions about
thermos:

1)  I bought a Stant thermostat (I had the intention of doing it this past
weekend, never got
around to it).  Will this be "high-flow" enough or should I go with a Mr.
Gasket or Robertshaw (?)
t'stat?  Does anyone run a Stant 180 and what does their car normally run?

2)  To change the thermo, all I need to do is take off the upper radiator hose
and change, right?
As long as there's no pressure in the system, I won't loose lots of coolant at
all, will I?  I
don't have a garage, so it's out in the parking lot, so I don't intend to flush
the system or
anything--just change t'stat and top 'er back off.  Is this reasonable?  Should
I just wait 'till I
get back home and have access to a real work space?  Anyone changed their
t'stat "on the run" like
this?

Thanks...the list's opinions are much appreciated!

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://jadcock.home.ml.org

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:47:40 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

Craftsman makes a really good impact wrench too.

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:49:55 EDT
From: AWILLBE@aol.com
Subject: Olds 455

I have a 79' Cutlass with 455 from earlier Olds and would like information on
decoding and locating motor mounts, etc.

Thanks
Dan

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:11:49 EDT
From: JCRASH7@aol.com
Subject: Delta 88 saves Pierce Brosnan!

Was watching "Dante's Peak", Pierce Brosnan's Suburban was stuck in the river,
a 4 door light blue 81-85 Delta 88 plunged in and smashed into them, and got
them out!

Go Rocket!

Joe

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:13:23 EDT
From: SexyGuy928@aol.com
Subject: 86 442...slight damage

Hey i'm the second owner of an 86 442 all stock w/t-tops.....the only prob. is
that it has a wrecked front end....i want to rebuild it but i was curious if
anyone knew where i could get the parts cheaper than dealer cost....its rather
high....i basically need the whole bumper area including grills, headlight
holders, shock absorbers....everything.  i'm in Clearwater, FL......if anyone
can help it would be much appreciated!!

Thanx,
Gerik

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:28:12 EDT
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: One mans conquest with an Oldsmobile.

In a message dated 98-10-11 10:18:48 EDT, you write:

<< My dad and I work on the cars together. It turns out to be very confusing
and
aggravating.  >>

    I like to work on car with my father too but i seems that i spend more
time explaining what and why i am doing than actually fixing the car. But i
guess that is all part of the Sunday time with my
father............SCOTT.......:: looking for a 55 Chevy for dad, and a 72
Supreme ragtop::

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:36:15 EDT
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: 80's Cutlass in a hurter of a movie

In a message dated 98-10-11 16:51:02 EDT, you write:

<< Ok, it's not everyday you see the main characters in a movie driving
around in a Cutlass,>>


        I have kinda started a list of movies whicj featured Oldsmobiles. I am
partial to the 72 Supreme body. One movie from HBO was called " Black Cat
Run"" the movie wasn't too bad and the car the character drag car. But then
too, Mike Brady had a 72 Supreme convertable in the Brady Bunch
movie.........life is so unfair.......SCOTT

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:46:56 -0400
From: "Gary J. Couse: Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: Can any one Identify this Olds?

Now toss a properly metered major whiff of nitrous and you can easily attain
1,000+ HP. Problem is getting and keeping the ground grip.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com

'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

<>-----Original Message-----
<>From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
<>[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Peter Landowski
<>Sent: Sunday, October 11, 1998 7:56 PM
<>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
<>Subject: Re: Can any one Identify this Olds?
<>
<>
<>Wow that twin turbo Olds looks awesome!! Let alone a 455 can produce 500+
<>lbs of torque, now add 2 turbos, you may be looking at 700+. That would be
<>1 insane ride. Hope the tbottom end would hold up....
<>Pettrix@prodigy.net
<>
<>----------
<>> From: Jonathan Parke <jonparke@together.net>
<>> To: oldsnet <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
<>> Subject: Can any one Identify this Olds?
<>> Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 10:06 AM
<>>
<>> Rich Inacker (a fellow list member) recently sent me this link
<>> http://www.voicenet.com/~rinacker/2turbo/ to some great pictures of an
<>> interesting 67 Cutlass he saw.  From what he could see it had
<>an Olds 455
<>> block, E heads with twin turbochargers (non-intercooled) dumping into
<>what
<>> appeared to be a stock Olds manifold modified for multi-port fuel
<>> injection.
<>>
<>> Any body know this vehicle and how to get in touch with owner?
<>>
<>> Also check out the rest of Rich's site (
<>http://www.voicenet.com/~rinacker
<>> ).  Very nicely done!
<>>
<>> jp
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:52:11 -0500
From: "John Kreitzer" <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Impact wrenches

Good question on how much air the compressor's moving, how does one go about
checking this.

John

- --->>Speaking of impact guns, the one's I have, understandably not the most
>>expensive on the market, but not super cheap, don't seem to have the
"punch"
>>that they used to. I have a hard time breaking the lug nuts loose, much
less
>>doing any serious wrenching. My compressor keeps the pressure up around
90 -
>>110 lbs. so I don't think thats the problem, but was just wondering if any
>>of you had an idea as to what could be causing the problem.
>
>how much air is it moving at 90-100 PSI?
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:31:47 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: disk brake VS drum brake stuff

            1.    What is the difference between 67-72 disk and drum power
brake boosters
            2.   Can I bolt a disk brake master cylinder to me drum brake
unit and have it function .......
            3.    I have a proportioning valve - combo style - should I
mount on frame or below MS


Tanks
The General
__________

Answers:

1.  While there have been different part numbers, I've never found a
functional difference between them.  I've converted several cars, and the
disc M/C bolts right up and works fine.

2.  Yes, see above

3.  When you say combo style, I assume you mean the 71-up valve that
incorporates the proportioning valve and distribution block in one casting.
This was designed to bolt to the frame, and while there is no functional
reason why you couldn't mount it under the M/C, if you do you'll need to
route both front lines and the rear line all the way up to the
proportioning valve.  On the other hand, if you mount it in the stock
location on the frame rail, you won't be able to install headers.  If you
plan to retain the stock exh manifolds, I'd leave it in the stock location.
If you plan to run headers, you'll need to relocate it and reroute the hard
line anyway, so it's your call.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:21:00 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Suspension

try a front swaybar from a 70-80 transam or z28, look for the 1.375 dia.
_________

This post had a lot of good advice, however there's one thing.  Adding a
larger front bar without also upgrading the rear bar will make the car
_understeer_ even more than it does now.  The front and rear bars must be
upgraded as a set to get optimum handling from the car.  Unfortunately,
there are no larger factory rear bars that I'm aware of (the Trans Am rear
bar is different), and aftermarket is your only option.  Unfortunately,
they are big bucks.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:49:17 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

Brent

A disc brake is exactly the same from a 69 as a 67.
______

Uh, no, not quite.  67-68 used the rare four-piston calipers, while the
69-ups used the floating single piston calipers.  The spindles for either
_will_ fit all 64-72 A-body cars, however.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:36:48 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Disc brake boosters

After conferring with Bill LaPierre, I am using the stock drum booster from
my
'66 for it's disc brake conversion. Steve Gregori is rebuilding it for me
now,
and he says it's a common usage.
_______

Peter,

I assume you've found someone to rebuild the 66 booster with a later style
pushrod.  The problem is that the 66-earlier boosters have a pushrod that
sticks out further into the single circuit master cylinder used in those
years.  The dual circuit M/Cs require a shorter pushrod, as used on the 67
boosters.  The 67s, however, are much larger in diameter than the 66s.  We
put a 67 booster in Tom Simmons' 65 Cutlass, with a 330, and thanks to the
small block, obviously had no clearance problems.  A big block will likely
need the notched covers.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:45:15 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: More Disc brake conversion Q's

will a disc brake set-up off a 69 cutlass fit my 67 cutlass convertible
with
no probelems??? if it wont.....what is diffrent?

Thanks
Brent
_______

Brent,

Everything from the spindles out will bolt up with no problems.  The ball
joints and tie rod ends use the same taper from 64-72.  You _will_ require
later wheels that clear the disc brakes.  Any SSII/SSIII or the later
(70-up) SSIs will work, as well as plain steel wheels from 69-up.  The disc
M/C will bolt up to a 67 booster.  You'll obviously need to incorporate the
disc proportioning valve.  Fortunately, the 69 uses a separate
proportioning valve, so you can retain the original distribution block on
your 67.  If you're lucky, you may be able to reuse the hard lines from the
69 between the M/C and the distribution block.  You'll also need the frame
brackets they retain the front hoses to the frame.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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