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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, November 2 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1584



Re: New Purchase
Re: New Purchase
Re: 455 running very rich... Questions about adjusting Holley car b.
Re: New Purchase
Re: Newbie Head Questions
ADMIN: List Problem (now fixed)
Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet
Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers
Re: T3 repros?
Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet
Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet
Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers
W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods
Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers
Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers
CONVERTIBLE LOCKS++?
Re: head grounds to what?
Front Springs, '72 Cutlass
Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet
Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods
Re: Front Springs, '72 Cutlass
Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods
Re: W-25 Hood Replicas
Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods
Re: Front Springs, '72 Cutlass
ARRRRGH!
Re: Lou's rant
Re: ARRRRGH!
Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods
no heat
Re: T3 repros?
Re: no heat
Search for parts..!!!
Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet
Re: T3 repros?
[Fwd: [Fwd: Rear End Color ?]]
Hagerty Insurance
Gear Ratios
Re: ARRRRGH!
Re: ARRRRGH!
Re: (no subject)
Re: Gear Ratios
OCA Web Site Updated
Re: Hagerty Insurance
Re: wheels
Re: Holley Projection
looking for Boyd
Re: ARRRRGH!
Re: ARRRRGH!
UNBOUNCE:  vintage olds parts resources
Re: ARRRRGH!
Re: phone  ,,,
Another Newbie Head Question(s)
Question about timing?
Re: OCA Web Site Updated
Horn Button
Re: Hagerty Insurance
'74 H/O decals
Re: Hagerty Insurance
Re: '74 H/O decals
Re: Question about timing?
Interior? Color?
Re: best 3A repl.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:19:58 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: New Purchase

to install an internal reg in place of an external requires you to unplug
the regulator. jumper the positive post to the field wire or get a pigtail
from the parts store and put it in place of the original that is all that is
necessary to do this and you get a higher amp alternator in the deal.....KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Austin Schroeger <austin@lsol.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: New Purchase


>I'm pretty limited in this answer, however HotRod or Super Chevy or Chevy
>High Performance (can't remember which one it was) had an article about
>swapping an external regulated alternator with an internal one.  The mag
was
>a few months ago  Sorry i can't remember which magazine.  Maybe someone
else
>knows?
>
>Austin J. Schroeger
>Manitowoc, Wisconsin
>http://www.g-body.org / http://members.lsol.net/austin
>austin@g-body.org / austin@lsol.net
>Home ICQ: 16380613 / Work ICQ: 7328959
>1984 Monte Carlo SS (400+ HP / 406CI)
>
>
>>it is probably a early 71 with a externally regulated unit. They are
>getting
>>hard to find, but it is pretty easy to swap in a internally regulated one.
>>
>

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:22:40 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: New Purchase

well the internal reg stuff wont fit in the external case or vice versa
- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Brown <Elric@dclink.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: New Purchase


>
>
>
> I was told by the previous owner that an
>>replacement Altenator is literally impossible to find.  >Dan Gerow
>>dgerow@student.stonehill.edu
>
>
>I thought I had run itno the problem with my 72 Supreme, but it was a
matter
>of looking at the alternators the guys had ( I ended up getting mine at
>Parts America).
>Mine has an external regulator, but when they rebuild the alternators they
>use the cases for either, so you may end up with an external regulator
>alternator, with an original internals case and vice versa.  Get the thing
>bench tested it will be able to tell you.  also it doesnt matter if the
plug
>is on top or in back the positioning just depends on the case they used.
>you may even have to get a new plug as they ised the connections for either
>or, depending on what they had.  Its a difficult process to find it but
they
>have them it might just not look like yours on the outside.
>The rebuilds are also sort of universal as some cars have a separate ground
>wire running to the alternator.  just use the hook ups you need and dont
>worry about the other connections.
>
>Chris Brown
>72 Cutlass Supreme
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:12:35 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: 455 running very rich... Questions about adjusting Holley car b.

Thomas P. Smith wrote:

> Although the secondaries do have idle discharge ports (known as four
> corner idle) there is no external mixture adjustment for the secondary idle
> circuit.

        Gosh, I'm replying to myself.  I'm schizophrenic...and so am I.  
Anyway, I
must correct myself.  Model 4160 carbs (those with a metering plate) don't have
external secondary idle adjustments, as I said above.  However, model 4150 
Holleys
(those with a metering block, as opposed to plate) do have secondary idle 
mixture
adjustments.  But, in that case, there would be a screw on either side of the 
rear
of the carb, just like the front.  This gives a total of four idle mixture 
screws.
With that self correction made, I will try to lay low and not beat this thread 
into
the earth.
- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:16:52 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: New Purchase

> I'm pretty limited in this answer, however HotRod or Super Chevy or Chevy
> High Performance (can't remember which one it was) had an article about
> swapping an external regulated alternator with an internal one.  The mag was
> a few months ago  Sorry i can't remember which magazine.  Maybe someone else
> knows?

        The FAQ at http://www.en.com/users/thall/olds/oldsfaq.htm has a very
good and complete how-to for the external to internal regulator alternator
conversion.
- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:17:19 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Newbie Head Questions

Jason Adcock wrote:
  (snip) I have a few questions:
> 
> 1)  How do you know if the head has hardened valve seats?  Joe said that the 
head had been off the
> block at least once because there was an after-market head gasket on there.  
Is there a possibility
> that hardened valve seats were installed?  How would I find out?
> 
> 2)  The valve seals on the exhaust valves were all crispy and flaky.  So, 
we'll just put new seals
> in all the valves.  Question:  how do I find out what color they are?  It's 
a #4 head off a hi-comp
> '67 330.  Will all the 330 heads (#4) have the same seals?
> 
> 3)  Any information anyone could give me about this head would be great.  
The FAQ doesn't have the
> valve head diameters.  All I found out is that they're 60cc chambers.



Jason,

Question #1:  Hardened valve seats are a press-in 
insert.  You'll be able to recognize if this procedure
has been performed on the 67 heads by the pressed in 
ring(s) in the chamber.  If the seats are part of the
casting, hardened seats have not been installed.

Question #2:  The original valve stem seals color
codes are black on the intakes and white on 
the exhausts.  All 67 330's use the same stem seals.     

Question #3:  Intake valve diameter is 1.875"
And the exhausts are 1.562"
 
 
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:31:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: List Problem (now fixed)

Any posts made between approximately 0930 EST and 1200 EST Monday probably
never made it to the list (can't be sure about the digest though). A
problem here at Chebucto caused all messages to bounce. Sorry for the
inconvenience. 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:41:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet

- ---Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> 
> With all the questions/answers regarding adjusting a Holley, how about
> adjusting the lean/rich mixtures for a QuadraJet (I assume that is
what
> I have in my 68 442).


- -------------------------------------------------------
That's an easy one. They are adjusted the same way as the Holley. The
two mixture screws on the front/base of the carb. Now, I know that I
will be corrected here if I am wrong, but a good starting point is to
turn them in all the way and then back them out 2 and a half turns.
That will get you within a close range considering everything is still
stock. Then I just played with mine for a while. I took it out in the
country and played with it till I found a setting that it ran good at.
My Quad is a little unique to I guess. I found out that mine actually
has a screw that allows you to adjust the secondary mixture as well. I
have never played with that one, but I plan on it after I get bigger
jets in my Quad.
==
Rock-Man's Page
http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass "S"
1986 Honda Accord DX

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:43:16 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers

     Greg, you stated that these new shocks are shorter travel than the
originals...they are not. I used the originals as a means to measure for the
correct fitting shock. The stroke (travel) of the aftermarket shocks are
identicle to the originals in every way, except that the overall diameter of
the new shocks are thinner. I guess that the smaller diameter is due to them
being "gas charged" instead of the "normal" design.OH!, The new shocks are
Gabriel Heavy Duty Gas Charged with VST Technology.

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:46:54 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: T3 repros?

   I guess that the T3's are worth what someone would pay for them...me, I
wouldn't pay more than about $5 a peice for them.haha. The FoMoCo script
lights on our '66 showcar Mustang are worth about 1 point a peice in a show,
and worthless on the street. My opinions of course.

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:57:04 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet



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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:01:14 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet

...a good starting point is to turn them in all the way and then back them
out 2 and a half turns...
___________

Yep, but just be very careful when turning them in.  Go gently and do not
force them once they bottom to prevent damage.

===============

...I found out that mine actually has a screw that allows you to adjust the
secondary mixture as well...
___________

Where is this screw?  Is this a later Q-jet with some sort of additional
adjustment?  The only secondary mixture adjustment I'm aware of involves
changing the metering rods or the hanger.  Are you possibly talking about
the APT (adjustable part throttle) screw, which works on the primary side
power piston height?  If in fact you do have a secondary adjustment screw,
that would be interesting.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:04:03 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers

  Greg, you stated that these new shocks are shorter travel than the
originals...they are not. I used the originals as a means to measure for
the
correct fitting shock.
____________

Are your originals in fact OEM Delcos, or are they perhaps other
aftermarket 68-72 shocks installed by a previous owner?  Or (and this would
make the most sense), have the aftermarket suppliers designed in the longer
travel to accommodate both the early and later A-bodies with one part
number?  I don't see where the longer travel of the early shocks would hurt
the 68-72 cars in any way.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:10:43 -0500
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods

Here's some news for all,

	We just got word from GM that the approval and the first run for the 
W/Z
manifolds is complete. They will be completely finished with the first run
soon and we will have them available (in pairs only) by the beginning of
December.  The price will be $299.00 a pair plus shipping. The first run
will be 100 pairs and we will not be able to adjust date codes on them. We
are taking orders (no money down) now for delivery for Xmas. 
	The other interesting note is that we exclusively will have a REAL OAI
hood for the 70 and 71-72 cars by January or February. These are IDENTICAL
in ALL aspects to the originals and will have the steel frame and screens
on them. Prices are not set in stone but look for them to be around
$850-900 for a brand new hood. The manufacturer is setting up for the molds
now. Some good Oldsmobiling news.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts
(757)474-0869

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:22:23 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers

I am pretty sure that these were the original shocks, Joe. I had to cut them
out with a torch. They had no markings on them that I could make out, due to
severe rust and years of "funk" on them. They had absolutely no resistance
left in them at all. Also, they would barely slide out through the access hole
in the bottom of the A-arm, and the new ones fit easily. I am satisfied with
the performance of the new shocks. On another note...aren't the rear shocks a
major support for the rear end. As I recall on the GM A-bodies, all that is
required to remove the rear springs, is to remove the rear shocks and raise
the body up and let the rear springs basically "fall" out. I mean, they are
only held in place by a bottom spring mount...nothing secures the top of the
spring, but the weight of the car.Right?

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:27:53 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 65 thru 67 font shock absorbers

 As I recall on the GM A-bodies, all that is
required to remove the rear springs, is to remove the rear shocks and raise
the body up and let the rear springs basically "fall" out. I mean, they are
only held in place by a bottom spring mount...nothing secures the top of
the
spring, but the weight of the car.Right?
___________

Pretty much.  The upper end of the springs sits in a frame pocket and is
held there by the weight of the car (and the shock on full extension of the
rear suspension).  There are two lower mount configurations.  66 and
earlier cars use a flat lower perch with plate bolted over the lower coil
to retain the spring.  67 and later cars use a formed spring perch which
fits into the lower coil (which is a reduced diameter).  There is no bolt;
the weight of the car again is used to retain the spring.  In either case,
unbolting the shock and jacking the car will usually cause the springs to
fall out.  Sometimes, however, so muscling of the rear end housing is
required - possibly for taller-than-stock towing package springs, for
example.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:04:55 EST
From: ChazToone@aol.com
Subject: CONVERTIBLE LOCKS++?

Looking for information on how to replace the convertible top locks (latches?)
on a 1971 Cutlass Supreme.  While I'm on the subject of ragtops, I've noticed
that the molding around the top, where the boot slips under, seems to be
getting loose.  Any suggestions for tightening??

Charlie Toone
ChazToone@aol.com
1971 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:00:47 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: head grounds to what?

>Back of passenger side head of my 350 has a small ground strap attached. 
>Assume it connects to something on firewall, but most likely looking bolt to 
>connect seems to have some plastic between what would be end of ground strap 
>& firewall. Doesn't seem like it would be much of a ground. (BTW, is an A/C 
>equipped car).
>

It should bolt directly to the firewall.

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:12:40 -0700
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: Front Springs, '72 Cutlass

I'm finishing up the front-end rebuild on my '72 Cutlass Supreme, and I'm
wondering if there are supposed to be any "doughnut" cushions on the tops of
the springs.  I know on the rear, there are cushions on the tops of the
springs, because I replaced them last year.  There was only a piece of one
left, and otherwise I wouldn't have even known they were supposed to be
there.  There's no remains on the front, but from what was left on the back,
it doesn't surprise me.

Thanks,
Blaine

P.S. - Anyone know who's got the best fender "dogleg" patch panels for '72
Cutlass?

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:25:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet

> Where is this screw?  Is this a later Q-jet with some sort of
additional
> adjustment?  The only secondary mixture adjustment I'm aware of
involves
> changing the metering rods or the hanger.  Are you possibly talking
about
> the APT (adjustable part throttle) screw, which works on the primary
side
> power piston height?  If in fact you do have a secondary adjustment
screw,
> that would be interesting.
> 
> Joe Padavano
> padavano.joe@orbital.com
> 
> 66 442
> 68 W-30
> 69 H/O
> 69 442
> 70 W-30
> 
- -------------------------------------------------------

It may in fact be the APT screw. I was told that the secondaries could
be adjusted by this screw from a local speed shop here. It has a small
brass screw on the top of the carb....I believe that it is on the
front left of the carb. (When looking at the carb from the
front/Primaries first) When you remove the small brass screw, I guess
that there is another screw down in the port that you can adjust the
mixture. Is this the APT screw? I can't remember for sure, but I do
know that it was a later 70's carb. If memory serves me, maybe around
the 78 era......

Del 

==
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1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass "S"
1986 Honda Accord DX

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:24:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods

- ---Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net> wrote:
>
> Here's some news for all,
> 
> 	We just got word from GM that the approval and the first run for
the W/Z
> manifolds is complete. They will be completely finished with the
first run
> soon and we will have them available (in pairs only) by the
beginning of
> December.  The price will be $299.00 a pair plus shipping. The first
run
> will be 100 pairs and we will not be able to adjust date codes on
them. We
> are taking orders (no money down) now for delivery for Xmas. 

- -------------------------------------------------------

Maybe a stupid question, but what are the W/Z manifolds?

Del
==
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http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass "S"
1986 Honda Accord DX

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:18:20 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Front Springs, '72 Cutlass

B. Sanders wrote:
> 
> I'm finishing up the front-end rebuild on my '72 Cutlass Supreme, and I'm
> wondering if there are supposed to be any "doughnut" cushions on the tops of
> the springs.  



Blaine,

There are no insulators used on the front springs.
Don't forget when installing the front springs, 
be sure to align the tang of the spring with the 
hole in the lower control arm.

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:31:29 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods

>Maybe a stupid question, but what are the W/Z manifolds?
>
>Del

I was wondering the same thing.

"pairs"?

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:29:09 -0500
From: Jeff Mullenix <muxx@exis.net>
Subject: Re: W-25 Hood Replicas

      If you contact Jim at chermac@exis.net he will be able to get you an
original GM maufactured hood in or around early spring.  These will be
manufactured and licensed by GM thru C&M Classic parts.  They will be
identical in every aspect to the original dies.  Also GM W/Z manifolds will
be available for shipping somewhere around early Dec 98. 

        Jeff

85 442
72 Cutlass Supreme
70 Conv 4 spd


At 04:14 AM 11/2/1998 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>---Shang <shang@connect.net> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the repost, forgot to edit the subject..
>> 
>> Has anyone bought a W-25 replica hood from US Body Source? I am
>> wondering how difficult it is to "modify" for the from moldings.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Stephen Hoover
>> Dallas, Texas
>> '70 Supreme
>> 
>------No big deal...just drill the holes and bolt on. Sometimes they
>get back logged and get a little slow, but be patient, and you'll get
>a nice hood in the end. I've installed several of their hoods, and
>always been happy with them.
>                  Later,
>==
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>  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
>TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
>1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:32:30 -0500
From: Jeff Mullenix <muxx@exis.net>
Subject: Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods

W/Z Exhaust manifolds for the big block 455 engines (68 - 73 or 74)
They will be nice.  Real nice used ones cost about that much.

      Jeff


85 442
72 Cutlass Supreme
70 Conv. 4 spd


At 02:31 PM 11/2/1998 -0800, you wrote:
>
>>Maybe a stupid question, but what are the W/Z manifolds?
>>
>>Del
>
>I was wondering the same thing.
>
>"pairs"?
>
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:48:08 EST
From: Lars81541@aol.com
Subject: Re: Front Springs, '72 Cutlass

On the subject of suspension, when replacing rear shocks on a 77 Cutlas
Supreme do you have to support the rear axle?

Jeff

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:32:25 -0500
From: "Shpud" <shpud@hotmail.com>
Subject: ARRRRGH!

Hi,
This is about the third time I've written to the list asking for help with my 
car. I 
know I'm new here, yeah, so I'm a little young too (17), but hey! How else am 
I 
going to learn if no one is willing to help me? If none of you have a '67 
Delmont 
88, or know nothing about them, or are personally unwilling to help me at 
least 
lead me to someone, or someplace with manuals even that IS willing. I really 
like my Olds and I just can't figure out what I have to do to get one of you 
to at 
least respond to me.

From Spruce
67 Delmont 88
- ----------------------------------------------------
If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 1206779
If you don't have ICQ you can page me through:
* My Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1206779 (go there and try 
it!)
* Or you can send me e-mail to 1206779@pager.mirabilis.com
- ----------------------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:43:00 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Lou's rant

Mick, 
Sorry about the door. This one just flipped me out. I should be better then
that.
Lou

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:25:28 EST
From: Lars81541@aol.com
Subject: Re: ARRRRGH!

Spruce
Sorry I can't help ya out... I don't know anything about that car.  You might
try a local auto parts store to see if they have any repair manuals.
Chilton's manuals are really good... or you might be able to go to an Olds
dealership and get an old manual from them for around $40

Jeff

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:30:47 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: W/Z Manifolds and OAI Hoods

>         The other interesting note is that we exclusively will have a REAL 
OAI
> hood for the 70 and 71-72 cars by January or February. These are IDENTICAL

HEE HEE!  Great news.  I remember a long time back we all were THINKING
of trying to get this done.  What a GOOD Oldsmobile day!...

Mike Rothe

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:30:20 -0500
From: "Rob Lewis" <fever@planeteer.com>
Subject: no heat

I changed the water pump on 78 Olds 88 350 in summer no problems.
Now I have no water circulating.I can pull the heat hose off the firewall
while
running and no water.
I'm thinking faulty water-pump.Or what.

Rob

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:17:47 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: T3 repros?

- ----------
> From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: T3 repros?
> Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 8:22 PM
> 
> GT5726@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > Year One has em...I have five of them...4 on the 442 and one on the
cutlass
> 
> What are the good used ones worth?  I've seen several of them in the
> yards the last few weeks.  Kind of have to vote with Mike Rothe though,
> I like a little more light in front of me.  Must be the old people thing
> again.

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:35:43 EST
From: Lars81541@aol.com
Subject: Re: no heat

this may sound stupid, but have you checked the coolant level?
also should check for leaks, and clogs... and pressure check if you have the
equipment

Jeff

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:45:40 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Search for parts..!!!

Posting this for someone else..!! Can anybody help find these parts????????


I need two(left and right) grilles for a 1979 olds cutlass supreme I
have two sets available to me but they're junk! I'm having trouble finding
them.please e-mail if you can help.

 howell3@roanoke.infi.net

 (540)389-0329  Salem Va

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:36:28 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about adjusting QuadraJet

> It may in fact be the APT screw.

        The APT screw is located in the front center area of the throttle
body.  It is a horizontal screw that is hidden behind a pressed-in plug.
It works by pre-setting the height of the power piston in it's bore.  It's
factory set and does not change with engine operation.

> I was told that the secondaries could be adjusted by this screw from a
> local speed shop here.

        I gotta side with Joe P. here.  After scouring numerous Q-Jet
diagrams, both non-electronic and electronic, all I see for the
secondaries is the same type of metering rod setup as has always been
used.  I guess it could be some really customized setup, but that wouldn't
be stock.  BTW, the Q-Jet doesn't have a secondary idle circuit like a
Holley.  It only has idle discharge ports on the primary side.

> It has a small brass screw on the top of the carb....I believe that it
> is on the
> front left of the carb. (When looking at the carb from the
> front/Primaries first) When you remove the small brass screw, I guess
> that there is another screw down in the port that you can adjust the
> mixture.

        Can't say for sure what this is but are you sure this isn't an
electronic Q-Jet from the early '80's?  There were a couple of plugs on
the top of those (though more centered) that, when removed, allowed
adjustment of the mixture control (M/C) solenoid.  However, I think these
plugs were pressed-in, not screwed in.  Though, I guess a screw-in plug
could have been installed as a field replacement. Even if the carb is
electronic, the secondary metering rods are not controlled by the M/C
solenoid.  Also, I think APT was obsoleted when the Q-Jets went
electronic.

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:53:52 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: T3 repros?

OOPS! SORRY.
Lou
.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:13:19 -0600
From: Dan Williams <442much@plutonium.net>
Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Rear End Color ?]]

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I have a question about the correct color of the rear end in my 68 442.
I always assumed it was Semi or Gloss black for the rear diff and
axles.  However, I have seen several painted natural.  I looked at an
article in MCR by Jeff Lilly (June/July 97), about detailing a 67 442
chassis, and the rear end is painted cast blast, with the axle housings
being bare steel.  The article also mentions Curt Anderson as a National
authority on 67 442s who aided in the resto.  According to How to
Restore Your Muscle Car it lists gloss black as the correct color for
the differential and Natural for the axles.  Both these sources are very
respected people in the field.  I still tend to think the entire section
should be Semi Gloss black.  Anybody know the answer?

TIA,

- -Dan
- --
Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                     68 442 Convertible



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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:20:26 -0600
From: "John Kreitzer" <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
Subject: Hagerty Insurance

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Hey all,

Anybody out there had any experiences with Hagerty Insurance. As I =
normally do, I sent in my premium today for it, and am now investigating =
the company after the fact, but if anyone out there has had any dealings =
with this company (good or bad) please let me know. A friend of mine was =
thinking about using them for his 72 Supreme and was wondering.=20

TIA

John=20
72 Hurst/Olds=20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Anybody out there had any =
experiences with=20
Hagerty Insurance. As I normally do, I sent in my premium today for it, =
and am=20
now investigating the company after the fact, but if anyone out there =
has had=20
any dealings with this company (good or bad) please let me know. A =
friend of=20
mine was thinking about using them for his 72 Supreme and was=20
wondering.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:29:17 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Gear Ratios

Need to change out the rear end in my 71 442.  I think I have something in the
upper 3's or low 4's, but I doubt it's original.  Checked my speedo with one
of those local cops' radar indicators on the side of the road and my speedo
reads about 5 mph higher than the roadside readout. Anyway, what I need to
know is if anyone knows the ratios that would have been available on a 71, so
I can pick one.  I want a highway rear end vs. the hole shot I have now.

Got lots of great advice on my last post on this subject, and sorry to sound
repetitive, but we didn't specifically cover the ratios that were available in
1971.  Thanks again.

Scott
71 442 Conv.

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:40:07 -0500
From: "Dan" <dsm137@gti.net>
Subject: Re: ARRRRGH!

Well sir, what seems to be the immediate problem????
I am sure one of us may be able to help if ya spell it out. Many very grand
people out here on this list for certain, and the knowledge is of abundance.
Dan.
'67 yellow convertible
the saffron man is still looking for seats covers made of that saffron if
any one can help!!!!
- -----Original Message-----
From: Shpud <shpud@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 6:19 PM
Subject: ARRRRGH!


Hi,
This is about the third time I've written to the list asking for help with
my car. I
know I'm new here, yeah, so I'm a little young too (17), but hey! How else
am I
going to learn if no one is willing to help me? If none of you have a '67
Delmont
88, or know nothing about them, or are personally unwilling to help me at
least
lead me to someone, or someplace with manuals even that IS willing. I really
like my Olds and I just can't figure out what I have to do to get one of you
to at
least respond to me.

>From Spruce
67 Delmont 88
- ----------------------------------------------------
If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 1206779
If you don't have ICQ you can page me through:
* My Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1206779 (go there and
try it!)
* Or you can send me e-mail to 1206779@pager.mirabilis.com
- ----------------------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:53:57 -0500
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: ARRRRGH!

Do you have a specific question. Is it peculiar to Delmonts or an Olds
big car general question? Does it concern engine or drive train? Or
possibly about the body or interior?
Even if you cannot obtain specific information about your particular
car, enough expert Olds men and women are on this list that you should
be able to obtain good answers to general questions.

Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
Cincinnati, Ohio

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:48:15 -0500
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Gary

        Sorry about the late return of your question. The 67 442's will ALL
have
"C" heads on them. There are identified by a large letter "C" near the front
spark plug on the drivers side and near the firewall on the passenger side.
Restored these cars can bring up to $15,000 if done perfectly.

Jim Chermack

At 03:41 PM 10/15/98 , you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>    I'm not very knowlageable on Olds. or domestic cars at all, but I'm
>looking for some help. I have a '67 Cutlass Supreme here with a 442
>10.5 to 1 compression ratio. I'm looking for heads. It's very confusing
>with A,B,C, ect.. heads avalible. Can anybody tell me what heads I need
>or how to identify the heads I have. It's a convertable and I'm also
>wondering about it's value. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks
>Gary Snyder

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:04:25 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Gear Ratios

Hi Scott,
	have you looked at the Oldsmobile FAQ?  It's at
http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/oldsfaq.htm  

	There is a section that talks about rear end codes.  If you
don't know where to look to find it then please reply to
me.  

	There is also a section on how to be sure of your ratio. 
You jack up the car and spin the wheels while counting the
revolutions of the driveshaft.  This is the easiest way to
be sure (the other way is to pull the cover and count
teeth).

	I hope this helps

CPEARLPARK@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Need to change out the rear end in my 71 442.  <snip> 
> Got lots of great advice on my last post on this subject, and sorry to sound
> repetitive, but we didn't specifically cover the ratios that were available 
in
> 1971.  Thanks again.
> 
> Scott
> 71 442 Conv.

- -- 

Cliff Simpson
csimpson@acs.ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:02:41 -0500
From: "Brad Nicholson" <brad442@erols.com>
Subject: OCA Web Site Updated

OK I finally got around to redoing the OCA Web Site w/ FrontPage98.  I need
the lists opinions on it but remember these things I'm correcting this week
to upload on Sunday.
1. Counter doesn't work, problem at the server
2. Putting backgrounds this week on ALL pages
3. Scanning as we speak more picture's of the '98 Nationals and creating
thumbnails for quicker preview
4. I'm new to this dang package by Microsquish
5. Trying to figure out the "Navigation Bot" for the left side of the page.
I'll appreciate all ideas/critisisms/etc.
Oldsmobile Club of America Web Site - http://www.oldsclub.org
BTW, you Florida/Goergia/Louisianna folk check out the bottom of the events
page for a BOP event in December in Florida.
Later
Brad Nicholson
OCA's WebGuy
brad442@erols.com or webguy@oldsclub.org

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:09:01 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Hagerty Insurance

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I have Hagerty insurance for three of my cars.  Fortunately, I have had =
losses, therefore no claims.  If you don't have a claim then the =
insurance just lays there like a sodden lump.  But, they did cover =
me......   Peter.

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lump.&nbsp;=20
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:14:39 -0500
From: "Jim & Sharon Brady" <bradyiii@shore.intercom.net>
Subject: Re: wheels

I doubt they will fit.  First of all the bolt pattern.  Ours is 5(lugs) on
5(inches).  Late model front wheel drive is something like 5 on 4.5.  Second
of all the offset will place the tire too far in the wheel well.  I just got
some wheels from a van I am parting out.  They are Carrol Shelby Aluminum
wheels from an '83 Chevy conversion van.  Any full-size Chevy or BOP wheel
should fit.

Jim Brady
1973 Olds Delta 88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/JimDelta.html

>
> I need to know if alloy wheels from a late model FWD Cutlass will fit on
> my 75 Delta 88.
>
> TIA
>
> Mark Hahn
> 75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
> Cincinnati Ohio

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:14:51 -0500
From: "Jim & Sharon Brady" <bradyiii@shore.intercom.net>
Subject: Re: Holley Projection

>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:10:19 +0100
>From: "Trond Pedersen" <trondped@c2i.net>
Do you still have it?  Want to sell it?  How much?

Jim Brady
1973 Olds Delta 88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/JimDelta.html


>Subject: SV: Holley Projection
>
>>Does anyone have any experence with Holley's projection systems?  I'm
getting
>>tired of messing with the carb on my 75 H/O.
>>Keith
>
>Been there, done that.
>I used the 670cfm analog injection w/closed loop on my 350 in a 80 cutlass
worked out just fine.
>I also put it over to the 455 when i change the engine in it. didnt get to
try it out and adjust it to its max sense the car died (but i think it was
to small )
>
>By the way is ewery body getting double messages or is it just my
server????
>
>Trond-Jarle
>mailto:trondped@c2i.net
>icq:15898213
>
>69 f85 sc
>86 cheby pickup
>

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:22:05 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: looking for Boyd

List,
        Has anyone out there talked to Boyd
Parker from Houston lately ?????    Have lost
contact with him - he posted a few items for sale.
I have his address but not a phone number ???

Any help ???


The General

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:44:25 EST
From: Juz440@aol.com
Subject: Re: ARRRRGH!

For help in regards to the saffron seats for the 67 convertible: Contact Troy
Thornton of Thornton Restorations in Telford, PA.  I know he just bought the
material for one he is restoring and sent the material out to someone to make
the covers for the seats.

Bob

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:45:55 EST
From: Juz440@aol.com
Subject: Re: ARRRRGH!

Just found Telford Restorations phone number: (215) 257-6070

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:54:08 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE:  vintage olds parts resources

I doubt this is the same Steve Park who races in Nascar but you never
know... respond to sparks@ida.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Steve Park <sparks@ida.net>
Subject: vintage olds parts resources

    Trying to restore a 1932 Oldsmobile straight 8 four door Patrician.
Do you have any resources that I might be able to tap to acomplish this
restoration?

Any information appreciated
Thanks
Steve

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:30:24 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: ARRRRGH!

I've got a '67 Delta Custom coupe and a '67 Delta convertible, essentially
what you have in your Delmont.  I also have what has been described by those
with a sense of politesse as a smattering of ignorance.  But, what I don't
have is a feeling for what it is you want to know.  If you pose a question,
I will endeavor to answer it, if I have that answer.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Shpud <shpud@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 6:19 PM
Subject: ARRRRGH!


Hi,
This is about the third time I've written to the list asking for help with
my car. I
know I'm new here, yeah, so I'm a little young too (17), but hey! How else
am I
going to learn if no one is willing to help me? If none of you have a '67
Delmont
88, or know nothing about them, or are personally unwilling to help me at
least
lead me to someone, or someplace with manuals even that IS willing. I really
like my Olds and I just can't figure out what I have to do to get one of you
to at
least respond to me.

From Spruce
67 Delmont 88
- ----------------------------------------------------
If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 1206779
If you don't have ICQ you can page me through:
* My Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1206779 (go there and
try it!)
* Or you can send me e-mail to 1206779@pager.mirabilis.com
- ----------------------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:25:21 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: phone  ,,,

peter...larry clark's # is 770  947-7789

andrew coards # is 770  577-3233

I will call from landis to end of 2nd page and also 3rd page...

thanks for the help..

krause sounded good..? if it's N/L material....

jeff.....

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:37:25 +0000
From: "Joe Gerschutz" <gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu>
Subject: Another Newbie Head Question(s)

	While Jason is asking about heads I thought I might as well too.  I 
have 3a heads on my stock 77 350 and understand that that are not 
very good/ free flowing.  

I would like to replace these with better ones, but which ones?  I'm 
not talking new ones from Mondello or anything like that, but ones 
say off a early 70s 350.  What number should I look for (ie 7a)?  

How much work will need to be done on them to make them useable? 
I don't want to pay to have them reworked and machined and all, so I 
was thinking rockers/springs/valves/pushrods.  Does this sound right? 

Will any mods need to be made on my engine?  
Everything will still bolt up no problem right?  

Also, does anyone have any heads for sale that are the ones I would 
benefit most from?  

Do you all (or y'all for y'all down south) think that heads is the 
best performance mods to make right now on the stock 350? 

I know that a lot of questions, so thanks in advance for any 
response. 

Joe

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:40:28 -0600
From: Matthew Bremmer <bremmer@otter.cray.com>
Subject: Question about timing?

I have a question about timing.   Basically I bought a 1978 Cutlass
Supreme with what I believe is a 305 V8 in it.  I checked the timing and
it set to 0 degrees.  My service manual for 1978 Oldsmobiles says it
should be set to 4 degrees.  I set it to 4 degrees.  Why would someone
retard the timing this much?  Could they do this to hide something wrong
with the engine?  What are your ideas?

Thanks,

Matt

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:41:14 -0600
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: OCA Web Site Updated

Brad,

I think the new format is great!

Just so you know... I've been using FrontPage98 since it came out.

Many of the "server-side" functions, like the built in counter, won't work
unless the server that hosts the web site has the FrontPage extensions
installed. BTW, the server extensions take up about 19MB of server space.
:-(

The Cyberglyphs site is hosted on http://www.aitcom.net/  It's not a bad
service, but with only 25MB for the basic FP plan, it only gives 5-6MB to
play with. The mail server can be sporadic too... but it gives you an idea
about the FP extensions.. If you want/need any help, just ask... I'm no
expert, but I can usually figure things out... and if you want to test
something on a server with the extensions, I'd be happy to set up an area
for you. :)

And if your server *does* have the extensions...well...nevermind. :)

Also, THANK YOU for getting my link(s) up. We're voting on the graphic for
the G-body list this week, and we should have a decision by Friday... I'll
send you a link when it's official. :)

Again...I really like what you've done...nice work.

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/
 Olds G-body Mailing List    http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:48:27 -0500 (EST)
From: "Douglas J Harkema" <harkema2@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Horn Button

Anyone have a black horn button for 70's sport steering wheel?

Anyone know where i can get one?

Thanks
Doug Harkema
70CS Conv't

Holt, MI

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:46:33 -0500
From: "Brian Lorway" <lorway@home.net>
Subject: Re: Hagerty Insurance

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Both my 4-4-2's are insured through Hagerty. They were highly =
recommended to me by more than one person when I was deciding who to =
insure with. I have not needed to make any claims.

Regards,
Brian

1970 4-4-2 W-30, 4-Speed
1971 4-4-2 W-30, Convertible
1987 GN (WE2)
OCA # 028157
www.wmachines.com
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From: John Kreitzer <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
Anybody out there had any experiences with Hagerty Insurance.

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1970 4-4-2 W-30, 4-Speed<BR>1971 =
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:53:04 -0600
From: James Menne <menne@bytehead.com>
Subject: '74 H/O decals

Hi List,

	I'm looking for a stripe kit for my '74 H/O. I checked "The Parts 
Place" in Chicago but was told the decals were not available at this time. Has 
anyone done business with "Auto Decals Unlimited "   from the Phoenix area? 
And what were the results?

Thanks 
Jim Menne 

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:57:03 -0600
From: "John Kreitzer" <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Hagerty Insurance

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I was refereed to them also by a very reputable person, (my Body Shop =
man). What I found rather surprising is, the amount of coverage you get =
for the dollar. One of the few good values left out there. Just hope =
they're there when (God Forbid), I would need to make a claim.=20

John

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    Regards,
    Brian
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    1970 4-4-2 W-30, 4-Speed
    1971 4-4-2 W-30, Convertible
    1987 GN (WE2)
    OCA # 028157
    www.wmachines.com
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    From: John Kreitzer <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
    Anybody out there had any experiences with Hagerty Insurance.

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    claims.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1970 4-4-2 W-30, 4-Speed<BR>1971 =
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:59:56 -0600
From: "John Kreitzer" <john.kreitzer@gte.net>
Subject: Re: '74 H/O decals

I bought my stripes for my 72 H/O from them, it took quite a while, (several
months) to get them, they were quite reasonable in price,  and now that
they're on the car they look really good.

John


>Hi List,

>I'm looking for a stripe kit for my '74 H/O. I checked "The Parts Place" in
>Chicago but was told the decals were not available at this time. Has
>anyone done business with "Auto Decals Unlimited "   from the Phoenix
>area? And what were the results?

>Thanks
>Jim Menne

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:01:14 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: Question about timing?

Straight to your question, it sounds like the last guy didn't disconnect
the vacuum advance when they set the timing.  If it was only off by 4 
degrees I wouldn't worry too much and enjoy the extra power.  Would
you believe that a brand new Olds 350 my shop built for a local claimer
class the guys running the car broke in the motor with the timing set at
somewhere around 25 degrees initial?  Then had the nerve to demand
that we warranty it.

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net
ICQ# 19113713
72 Cutlass S (RIP)
68 Cutlass Supreme
 
>I have a question about timing.   Basically I bought a 1978 Cutlass
>Supreme with what I believe is a 305 V8 in it.  I checked the timing and
>it set to 0 degrees.  My service manual for 1978 Oldsmobiles says it
>should be set to 4 degrees.  I set it to 4 degrees.  Why would someone
>retard the timing this much?  Could they do this to hide something wrong
>with the engine?  What are your ideas?

>
>Thanks,
>
>Matt
>

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:13:02 -0500 (EST)
From: "Douglas J Harkema" <harkema2@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Interior? Color?

I amplanning on replacing the interior in my 70 convertible.  The question is
what companies would you suggest for the parts?  seat covers door panels
basically everything.

The other thing is the color.  My car is supposed to be saddle.  But it looks a
lot darker than the pictures I have seen of saddle.  What gives?  Is Saddle
light brown or Dark brown  Mine seems darker.

Will parts companies send me samples?

Thanks
Doug Harkema
70 CS Conv't
Holt, MI

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:20:14 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: best 3A repl.

What is your ultimate goal?  Do you just want the most bang for the
buck around town or are you working your way toward grander 
plans?  Your motor is a low compression (8.0:1) unit and the 3A's 
have a 74cc chamber.  If you went with either a 5, 6, 7, or 7a (note
small "a") they have 64cc chambers which would bump up your 
CR which in turn would give you more power.  If you surface the 
heads to shave off another 2cc's that would put you right at 9:1.  
That would give you a power boost by itself but you still need the 
intake and exhaust system capable of moving more air.  If you 
have stock single exhaust that would probably negate any gains
you make.  Before I go any further and step on my d*ck, I'll let the 
other guys extoll the virtues of the flow characterstics of the different
heads.  I want to hear this too since the only non stock thing on my
68 is a set of 3A heads and I've given up on finding a cheap set of
5's but I still want my CR back!

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net
ICQ# 19113713
72 Cutlass S (RIP)
68 Cutlass Supreme

  

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