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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, October 17 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1557



Re: grille cont.
371cid for sale
Re: rice grinders
Re: dual quads? NO! dual carb!
Re: rice grinders
Re: Honda owners don't wanna see this
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Re: Olds 403
Re: Observation
Re: Parts, new
Re: emblem locations
Re: need source for jetaway pan gasket
Re: emblem locations
Re: 79 hurstolds dualgate shifter fs
Re: What year model seats are in my '68 442???
Re: grille cont.
Re: Parting out 84 H/Oand sell 4  complete 6/8sH/Os.
Re: Honda owners don't wanna see this
Re: rice grinders
Re: Vacuum Line Replacement
Re: rice grinders (long)
TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs (NEED FAST HELP)
Re: grille cont.
ADMIN: Rice Grinders
UNBOUNCE: Cutlass '76 parts
Re: rice grinders
pwer tour site change
Porting Finishing/polishing.
Re: Parts, new
Purchasing CA. Cars
AZ & CA Olds Purchase
Front frame width
missing
Rice burner
Re: Need parts
Re: Cruise Control Fix?
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Re: emblem locations
Re: Need parts
RE: dual quads?
RE: Cruise Control Fix?
#6 Cylinder Head 4 sale
Need a garage!!
Re: rice grinders
Re: dual quads?
Re: emblem locations/ solution ?
Re: TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs (NEED FAST HELP)
CONSOLE CONTROL PANEL ASSY
Re: Olds 403
Re: AZ & CA Olds Purchase
Re: TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs (NEED FAST HELP)
Re: Rice burner
Re: emblem locations/ solution ?
Re: rice grinders
Re: rice grinders
Re: Observation
Re: rice grinders
Re: Observation
Re: Observation
Re: Tag Bracket
455 pan & windage screen
please remove me from list
Re: emblem locations/ solution ?
Re: emblem locations/ solution ?
Re: emblem locations
RE: missing
Re: Tag Bracket
66 cutlass
ADMIN: Enough Already re. Riceburners!!!!
Open letter about list traffic
Re: Open letter about list traffic
Re: emblem locations/ solution ?
Re: emblem locations
Re: Gutless Cutlass??
Re: Open letter about list traffic
Re: 79 hurstolds dualgate shifter fs
Re: Olds 403
Re: Vacuum Line Replacement
Re: Parting out 84 H/Oand sell 4  complete 6/8sH/Os.
Re: engine weight
Re: Parts, new
Re: emblem locations
Daytona under the lights, 8:00
Re: missing

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:30:22 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: grille cont.

Lou Biggs wrote:
> 
> Wood,
> I used it once before and I thought I got away with it. Any info on how to
> get Hemmings. Don't know!
> Lou

Well, you can subscribe to it or you can get it at a bookstore for about
$6.  They also have a web site, but there isn't a whole lot on it as I
remember.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:27:25 -0600
From: Anderson <ander@elpn.com>
Subject: 371cid for sale

>Subject: 371cid for sale
>
>I have a '57-'60  371cid short block, heads and chrome "rocket" rocker
covers in my garage which are of no use to me. All items match the other
also have exht mainfolds and timing cover for motor. Was looking for
455cid,but after 240mi ride bought it for kicks. for sale or trade. Neil
ander@elp.com
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:38:43 -0400
From: "Jason P. Labay" <jlabay@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: rice grinders

Yeah as much as I hate the rice scene I have to back this up.  There are 
Talons, Eclipses and Lasers here that drive to
the track, run high 10's, then drive home while still getting 20+ mpg..all 
this with a little 4 banger.  Saw one tonight
run down a 71 Cutlass that was a built drag car...tubbed, 4 link, BB Olds 
built by Mondello ( so he said), and
fiberglass panels and lexan glass. There are also VR4's here that run mid 11's 
with not so many mods. I can't stand the
damn rice scene, but I sure do respect the ones that can run with the big boys.

Jason Labay  Akron, OH jlabay@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/jlabay



>That's because V-tec is an extremely high winding fast little motor, and all 
the little Honda owners wish they had one.
I had a 94 Honda Civic Hatchback Si with V-tec and that car moved. I went to 
Vegas early in one morning (4am) with it
and cruised at 130mph, at 4000rpm, redlined at 8000(chipped), made it to Vegas 
from the Pacific Ocean(LA) in before 7am.
A friend who owns Pocket Rocket in Rosemead, Ca. built a 1.6 liter turbo'd 
V-tec that was pushing 400hp, put that on
your skateboard and find out who beats who at a stop light. Don't knock the 
car or the technology until you drive one, I
own 2 Olds (love 'em to death) but I miss my Honda, that was one bad-ass slot 
car.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:55:45 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: dual quads? NO! dual carb!

In a message dated 98-10-16 22:43:59 EDT, you write:

<< OLDS MANIFOLD, 4 bbl, dual carb setup, made by Offenhauser, $125. (914)
 237-0318 before 10pm. Yonkers
 
 Might be a bit overkill for my 307?  :P
 Wanna do that 425 up Karl? Can you say, "sluuurrp"?  >>

Or: Was that a GN passing a Hemi 'Cuda waaaay back there?

Karl believes this is not an intake for spreadbores, but 4GC or carter carbs.

BTW: Believe such was also available pre 1965 if interested, be careful.

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html
http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:39:07 -0400
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: rice grinders

hmm, who said the vr4 is the best japan has to offer? pity the thought. I
have to  agree with that other guy, dont knock it till you drive it because
some of those cars (NSX,anyone?) will lay waste to just about anything.
watch out for supercharged civics to, they can push over 400 hp. Olds
content: but my delta is easier to fix. heh


- ----------
> From: blue442@webtv.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: rice grinders
> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 5:38 PM
> 
> I've matched up with a couple 3000gt turbo models (vr4?) at stop lights
> in my 68 442.  The drivers look like they're gonna cry after getting
> spanked by an old dinosaur while the're in one of the finest $40,000
> sports Japan has to offer.
> Also-what's with all the rice boys running Hond V-TEC embems no matter
> what they in?  
> 

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:41:26 -0400
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Honda owners don't wanna see this

oh thats mature.

- ----------
> From: blue442@webtv.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Honda owners don't wanna see this
> Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 12:15 AM
> 
> Hondas are GIRL CARS. Probably every other front driver I have ever seen
> is too.
> You don't have to have a flashy extension of your manhood, but American
> rear drive V-8's are and always will be simply the best.
> 

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:59:39 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

Hi gang!

Believe it or not, I think that any A or G body could be made to handle at
least as good as these so-called "racers" that somehow never see fit to try
their luck at an autocross event.  Granted, they have a much shorter wheelbase
and in slightly prepared trim they might have a power-to-weight ratio
advantage, but a bit of good old Rocket ingenuity and some time spent
optimizing the chassis components would wind up out-running them on most any
course I've ever ran on, and there's been some real small, tight courses here.

They think they do so well, then why is it that in SCCA competition the C
Street Prepared (where most of these so-called "racers" would wind up) cars
never beat the E Street Prepared cars (where all the similarly prepared A and
F bodies would be)?

Consider this:  one of my upcoming projects is going to be a C Prepared (not
Street Prepared) 72 Cutlass 442 replica.  Unlimited compression, dry sump
oiling system, 780 Holley on top of a 350 that will be good to over 7000 if
need be, through a 4-speed eventually to 12" wide 16" tall wheels with true
road racing slicks (less than 2" of sidewall).  No riceboy will ever get close
enough to me time-wise to even know what blew him away - let him call THAT
Cutlass gutless!  I'll be slugging it out with the american pony cars from GM
and that F-word company along with the most exotic Corvairs you'd ever want to
see.  Am I crazy, this would seem like quite a daunting task for a heavier and
longer full-frame car.  Nah, I think with a lot of R&D on the suspension and
careful part selection we'll be able to be competitive - and no riceboy will
beat us, guaranteed!

Let them talk, if they ever want to prove it look up a local SCCA autocross
event and challenge them to even show up.  Heck, take your Oldsmobiles out and
learn what it takes to tame an autocross course, it's relatively inexpensive
and can be done on street tires!

(soap box mode OFF)

Take Care all,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
ks7racing@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:23:48 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds 403

HI ANDY, I MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE. FIRST WE WILL DEAL WITH THE
INTAKE. AN EDELBROCK 3711 PERFORMER INTAKE WILL DO JUST FINE. YOU HAD SAID YOU
INSTALLED A MILD CAM, SO YOU SHOULD BE OK. SECOND YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO REV
THE MOTOR PAST 5400 RPM. OLDSMOBILES ARE TORQUE MOTORS NOT HIGH
WINDERS,THIRDAS FOR THE 72 10-BOLT REAREND. I'M NOT SURE IF ITS A DIRECT BOLT
IN, YOU CAN MEASURE BOTH REARENDS FROM BACKING PLATE TO BACKING PLATE. IF THEY
ARE BOTH THE SAME LENGTH IT CAN BE USED WITH SOME MODS. NEXT MEASURE THE
MOUNTING PADS FROM  PAD TO PAD, IF THERE ARE EXACT THEN IT MAY FIT. ALSO I
HAVE FOUND THAT USING A REAREND FROM ANY 81 TO 87  442, GRAND NATIONAL/T-TYPE.
AND MONTE/SS HAVE 373GEARS IN THEM MAKING FOR A GOOD START. BESIDES MONTE
CARLO/SS ARE BECOMING A DIME DOZEN IN SCRAP YARDS LATELY.OR ANOTHER NEAT TRICK
IS TO INSTALL AN AFTERMARKET POSI UNIT FROM AUBURN GEAR, THEN INSTALL AIR
BAGS. PRELOAD THE RIGHT REAR AXLE WITH THESE BAD BOYS AND THEY PLANT MORE TIRE
TO THE GROUND EVENING OUT THE LEFT SIDE WITH THE EFFECT OF HAVING A REAL POSI.
BESIDES IT MAKES THOSE CHEVY GUYS CRINGE WHEN THEY SEE A HOPPED UP
OLDS.ESPEACIALY FROM THE REAR. GOOD LUCK. I HOPE I HELPED YOU OUT AS WE OLDS
GUYS NEED TO STICK TOGETHER. IF YOU NEED ANY ANOTHER INFO DROP ME A LINE. PAUL
MAIERS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:14:07 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Observation

NEED PARTS LET ME KNOW.

PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:26:41 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts, new

HI THERE, I MAY BE OF SOME HELP TO YOU. I'M A PARTS LOCATOR I SPECIALIZE IN
THE OLDSMOBILES. DROP A LINE WITH THE PARTS YOU NEED. THANX, PAUL MAIERS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:58:10 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations

SORRY MIKE I WASN'T READING THE WHOLE PAGE. I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:53:16 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: need source for jetaway pan gasket

LARRY LET ME SEE WHAT I CAN COME UP WITH I LOCATE HARD TO FIND OLDS PARTS.
PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:56:48 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations

MIKE I MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. LET ME KNOW WHAT YEAR THE CAR IS AND I'LL GET
THE RIGHT LOCATIONS OF THE EMBLEMS FOR YOU.

PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:39:11 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: 79 hurstolds dualgate shifter fs

HI THERE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR 73 HUSRT OLDS PARTS LET ME KNOW. I DO SOME
PARTS LOCATING FOR THE HARD TO FIND OLDSMOBILES AND SPECIALTY PARTS FOR OTHER
MUSCLE CARS. THANX PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:03:50 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: What year model seats are in my '68 442???

CHECK OUT WWW.OLDSPARTS.COM THEY HAVE PICTURES OF OLDS SEAT THAT YOU CAN MATCH
UP.

PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:47:18 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: grille cont.

HEMMINGS.COM THEY HAVE A WEBSITE CHECK IT OUT

PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:18:21 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parting out 84 H/Oand sell 4  complete 6/8sH/Os.

WHAT PARTS AVAILABLE LET ME KNOW, LOOKING FOR DOORS FOR 85 442. PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:11:13 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Honda owners don't wanna see this

OH YEAH CAN WE GET SOME TORQUE MONSTERS  STOMPING THE STREETS HALLOWEEN IS
COMING.HERE,HONDA ,HONDA ,HONDA!

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:49:40 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: rice grinders

GO JOE! NOT THE HAND CLEANER.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:41:40 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Vacuum Line Replacement

HEY CHECK OUT WWW.AUTOSITE.COM IT HAS ONLINE SERVICE MANUALS, THANX PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:44:26 -0600
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: rice grinders (long)

Kicking But in a 442 is certainly great, but my '81 Delta 88 4door sure
surprised a lot of people.  I have just finished the engine and put it in.
The car looked rough.  Faded gold paint, ugly wheels (although wearing
255/60/15 BFGoodirch TAs), cracked windshield, rumbly exhaust (although this
is good, but some people may look at the car and just assume a hole in
muffler).  Anyway, looked terrible (is being painted metallic blue and
silver stripes on hood/trunk).  Only the new dual big pipes, good standing
suspension, exhaust note and new tires hinted.  Had three experiences (only
drove it for a week but took every chance I got).  Camaro 350, new VTEC
Accura Integra and a Ford T-bird SC.

While I was standing at the light, the Camaro 350 (early 90s) pulled up.  I
(and my friend in the car) looked at him, and when he looked back, I started
edging rapidly.  He smiled, and all was on.  My engine had 2 days on it and
120 miles but I could not resist.  When the light went green,  pedal went
down and the show began.  We both spun the tires a lot, but mine was
distinctively long and smokier.  I was ahead by about 3-4 feet during this
burnout, but once my car hooked, I pulled away strong, and constantly kept
pulling away in every gear.  By about 80 mph (dbl. the posted speed limit) I
had him about 4 car lengths.  At the next light, he rolled down the window
and we started talking.

As for the rice-burning Integra goes, I lit a good patch and pulled away
from him at a traffic light in down-town area at night, and then loosing him
in the traffic.  I had three people in my car and he had four total (inc.
two hot chicks).  Anyway, a few minutes later, he passes us with traffic.  A
few seconds later, we pass the major intersection passing him.  I see him
come out and go after me.  Ahead of us, a long 1.5 mile uphill three lane
road with no lights or traffic.  I see him coming fast in my mirror.  Just
as he goes to pass, I floor it.  Because he had some speed, he equals me.
Then, we watch his eyes water as I pull away like he is standing still.  By
about 110 mph, I was a good 7-10 car lengths in front.  He can still look at
my car as a POS, but when a new expensive sports car bought for him by his
dad gets killed by a '81 Delta with no paint built by me for the first time,
now that is a site.

The T-bird SC ( a nice looking car), I did not notice, but when the light
went green, I hear a loud tire spin and see him starting to rocket off.  I
punch it, tires break loose in middle of intersection, hook and then I catch
him and pull away.  After that he quits.

Being 20 and this my first engine (and all my money), I tried so hard no to
step on it when I fist took it out.  But the motor ran so good on my initial
settings, after about 2 blocks (maybe less) of my garage, I had to step on
it.  Just could not resist and let it break in.  After that, all else is
history.  The third day, I get pulled over for stunting.  Can't wait till
the car is done, I put my Cragar SS rims on again and go cruise (15x10s +
15x8s) Igor.

Igor Todorovic

1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23 posi)
1981 Regency 98 (307/2004t/propane)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:55:08 -0600
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs (NEED FAST HELP)

I just got a set of TRW variable rate Heavy Duty springs for a Custom
Cruiser to put on my '81 Regency.  I also got a set of Gabriel VST shocks,
in hopes of correcting my shot shocks and maybe improving handling a bit.
Anyway, since my Delta is in a body shop and I can't look , I forget this
important step. ARE THE var. rate rear coil springs installed with the
compressed side (the one with coils closer together) up or down.  I can't
remember for the life of me.  Got my old cruddy stuff off, now I have to
reinstall, so HELP ASAP.  Thanks.  Igor.

Igor Todorovic

1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23 posi)
1981 Regency 98 (307/2004t/propane)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:43:48 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: grille cont.

LOU ARE YOU LOOKING FOR PARTS? LET ME KNOW.
                             
PAUL MAIERS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:36:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Rice Grinders

OK, gang, a little bit of this stuff is fun, but it looks like we've
passed that point. Let's put a cap on this discussion -- at least the
parts slagging others. Thanks!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:39:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Cutlass '76 parts

Not on the list, respond to pdooley@gte.net if interested.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"Pat" <pdooley@gte.net>
Subject: Cutlass '76 parts

'76 cutlass- parting out/Interior burgundy,bumpers, dual exhaust cross =
member, swivel seats, lightning rods dash... etc. Tampa
Rick

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:30:46 EDT
From: Pjolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: rice grinders

HEY NICE GOING. YOU PROBABLY GOT SOME RICE RODEO YA-HOO UPSET. THATS OK CAUSE
I'LL PUT ANY OF MY THREE TOYSMOBILES TO A RICE EATING SUSHI SPITTING CONTEST
ANY TIME.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:22:14 EDT
From: WOODY3781@aol.com
Subject: pwer tour site change

The phone number to call for the site change is Rockland Community College
914-574-4000. New location is Anthony Wayne State Park on the back side of
Bear Mountain, north end of Palisades Pkwy. This info courtesy of our Chevy
brothers.

wood

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:35:36 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Porting Finishing/polishing.

In a previous post about porting (or similar alteration or finishing work)
someone mentioned buffing (or similar action) with newspaper.

I understand that newsprint is not a particularly smooth surface, and will
should not scrratch metal, but how exactly does one apply it?

Do you wrap the sander/polisher wheel with newspaper?

What was meant there?

Thanks!

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html
http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:22:27 +0000
From: krzy4evr@usit.net
Subject: Re: Parts, new

May I offer a polite suggestion here for the 
following list member....!!!!!!

         "KILL THE CAPS....!!!"   and please read the  List netiquette I sent 
you 
via private e-mail...!!!

Mike..............................




From:          Pjolds@aol.com

HI THERE, I MAY BE OF SOME HELP TO YOU. I'M A PARTS LOCATOR I SPECIALIZE IN
THE OLDSMOBILES. DROP A LINE WITH THE PARTS YOU NEED. THANX, PAUL MAIERS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:32:52 -0400
From: "Robert Collins" <collins@peterboro.net>
Subject: Purchasing CA. Cars

Is there anyone on the list that has bought a car (Olds I hope) in
California and brought it back to Ontario Canada?  I am going west in
November and plan on buying a car and returning it to Ontario.  You can
reach me privately if you wish, my email address is   
collins@peterboro.net

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:46:24 -0400
From: "Robert Collins" <collins@peterboro.net>
Subject: AZ & CA Olds Purchase

Are there any members on the list that live in either of these states that
would be willing to contact me with information on purchasing a vehicle? 
Please contact me at my email adress collins@peterboro.net, as I have
several questions I would like answered.
Thanks

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:47:28 -0400
From: "Robert Collins" <collins@peterboro.net>
Subject: Front frame width

Can anyone provide me with the width of the front frame of a 66 Cutlass.  I
need the width between the frame horns where the bumber assembly is bolted
to the frame.  Maybe someone could also give me the measurements of a 68 to
72 Cutlass.  I am going to AZ & CA and somewhere out there is an Olds with
my name on it, I just have to find it.
Thanks

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:35:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: jalkara <jalkara@whidbey.net>
Subject: missing

why is it that the guy missing his honda makes me look at 6 pages of
gibberish at the bottom of the message?

olds content,  i think i will go put some ugly black marks on the ground
with the 442 today as it will be dry here today, or maybe go put some
really ugly black marks with the 47.

47rocket98

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:51:10 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Rice burner

They have import night the first saturday of every month here at
Gainsville. I have not seen a 10 sec. one yet, maybe if they could keep
the drive train together might hit mid 11s.
 the drivers seem to not care about anything but themselfs, and sure as
hell are a breed of there own.
                        Butch  68  442 post

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:01:47 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Need parts

In a message dated 10/15/98 10:55:46 PM EST, Ondacouch@aol.com writes:

<<  Right side rear view door mirror >>
Bill

If you go to the Atlantic city car show in February I know you will find a
right side rear view mirror. You might even find some other stuff. Atlantic
City is one of the best car shows in the New England/Mid Atlantic part of the
U.S.

Monkey

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:03:09 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cruise Control Fix?

In a message dated 10/15/98 10:56:22 PM EST, david.cullen@snet.net writes:

<< >Has anyone had a "jumpy" cruise control?  It feels like it's sticking
 somewhere.  Like I said, it >>
drc

Does this apply to the speedometer too.

Monkey

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:08:59 EDT
From: Monkey2351@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

In a message dated 10/16/98 1:12:42 AM EST, Cutw29@aol.com writes:

<<  Anyway he drives some Civic or something that sounds like a
 "REALLY STRONG VACUUM CLEANER" as I said to him. >>

Most of the new rice burners are "REALLY STRONG VACUUM CLEANER."I fully agree.

Monkey

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:38:33 EDT
From: "Norm Baier" <nbaier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: emblem locations

Hi Mikey,

I was whipping out my Olds books to look up the locations, when I 
realized that those specs (you know, "x" inches up from and "x" inches 
over from...) weren't there! I coulda swore they were. Is it in the 
Assembly Manual... ONE I don't have? Could any responders, post where 
that's documented? Thanks!

Norm Baier
Woodstock, GA

- ----Original Message Follows----
From:	Mikeytvb@aol.com
Date:	Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:31:22 EDT
To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: emblem locations
Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

i was wondering if there are any sources that tell the exact locations 
of body emblems?  the car has new fenders on it and we need to know 
where to drill holes.  the car is a 1970 442 convertable non/w-30. we 
need the both fenders and trunk lid locations.  i have tried several 
olds books and have found nothing.  i was just wondering if you guys had 
any clue about this one....

mikeytvb@aol.com




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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:42:54 EDT
From: Ondacouch@aol.com
Subject: Re: Need parts

Monkey,

   Thanks... Bill

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 07:47:00 -0700
From: "Gary Andresen (At Home - Personal e-mail address)" <gandresen@home.com>
Subject: RE: dual quads?

I am running an Offenhauser intake on my 455 with Carter AFB carbs.

Works for me.
 
Gary Andresen

'55 Old 88 2-door Hardtop
with 455 Olds and T400
http://www.442.com/andresen.html


- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Dave Cullen
Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 7:43 PM
To: Oldsmobile Mail List
Subject: dual quads?


 Found the following add in a paper that services Ct, Mass, and N.Y. ;

OLDS MANIFOLD, 4 bbl, dual carb setup, made by Offenhauser, $125. (914)
237-0318 before 10pm. Yonkers

Might be a bit overkill for my 307?  :P

Wanna do that 425 up Karl? Can you say, "sluuurrp"?

drc

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:39:35 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Cruise Control Fix?

On Saturday, October 17, 1998 9:03 AM, Monkey2351@aol.com 
[SMTP:Monkey2351@aol.com] wrote:
>
> Does this apply to the speedometer too.

Not really...once I'm up to speed, the speedometer stays pretty solid.  But, 
like Bob Anderson said 
to me, it only takes a slight variance to throw the cruise into convulsions.

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:01:50 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: #6 Cylinder Head 4 sale

I have one #6 cylinder head for sale. It was from a 1970 350 Olds. This is
a good core with no cracks. Price of $50.00. I am located near Chicago,
IL..

E-Mail privately...


Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:03:39 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Need a garage!!

I will be repainting my 72 Olds and I need a garage to rent out to do some
of the work. If you know of any let me know. I am located on the south-side
of Chicago.


E-Mail me privately...

Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:21:46 EDT
From: MFATZII@aol.com
Subject: Re: rice grinders

Turbo Supra  is also a quickie, but I wouldn't own a foreign car for all the
rice in china........

Ryan

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:25:21 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: dual quads?

In a message dated 98-10-17 11:22:35 EDT, you write:

<< I am running an Offenhauser intake on my 455 with Carter AFB carbs.
  Works for me.  >>

Sure it is KEWL!

Just wanted to point out dint think Offy made twin stacks for spreadbores.
The advertisement that started this did not actually say "Q-Jet" or "Quad"
more to correct Mr. Cullen and to keep him from pestering me about it as Karl
do happen to have about #125 lying aroun here ... somewhere. Must be in my
work boots.

Ick.

Well, ... mebbe it'll stop glowing later...

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html
http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:29:07 EDT
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations/ solution ?

hey mikey, i just happen to have a frt. clip and rear deck lid from a 442
without the emblems .  i could measure the holes and send the info. along to
you if it helps.               steven,   w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:30:14 -0400
From: Kevin Hoopingarner <khooping@bright.net>
Subject: Re: TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs (NEED FAST HELP)

Igor,

Install the tight coils to the top.

Kevin Hoopingarner
'70 Olds 442 W-30
Findlay OH.

Igor T. '81 455DRB wrote:

> I just got a set of TRW variable rate Heavy Duty springs for a Custom
> Cruiser to put on my '81 Regency.  I also got a set of Gabriel VST shocks,
> in hopes of correcting my shot shocks and maybe improving handling a bit.
> Anyway, since my Delta is in a body shop and I can't look , I forget this
> important step. ARE THE var. rate rear coil springs installed with the
> compressed side (the one with coils closer together) up or down.  I can't
> remember for the life of me.  Got my old cruddy stuff off, now I have to
> reinstall, so HELP ASAP.  Thanks.  Igor.
>
> Igor Todorovic
>
> 1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23 posi)
> 1981 Regency 98 (307/2004t/propane)
> 1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:04:21 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: CONSOLE CONTROL PANEL ASSY

I was thinking on getting the casting from this assembly on top of the
center console (auto trans, 69 Cutlass), rechromed.  Mine is
pitted....but ouch!! The rechroming is really expensive.  Does anyone
have an A-1 chrome panel for sale.  Same thing for the chrome tail light
housings. Don't need the lenses or the rear housing.  Wayne

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:51:21 EDT
From: Brewracer@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds 403

Please remove me from this list

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:47:49 EDT
From: DKlauber@aol.com
Subject: Re: AZ & CA Olds Purchase

I am in Phoenix, AZ.   David
OCA #30416
1970 442 W-30 conv.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:07:19 -0500
From: Shang <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Re: TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs (NEED FAST HELP)

Igor T. '81 455DRB wrote:
> 
> I just got a set of TRW variable rate Heavy Duty springs for a Custom
> Cruiser to put on my '81 Regency.  I also got a set of Gabriel VST shocks,
> in hopes of correcting my shot shocks and maybe improving handling a bit.
> Anyway, since my Delta is in a body shop and I can't look , I forget this
> important step. ARE THE var. rate rear coil springs installed with the
> compressed side (the one with coils closer together) up or down.  I can't
> remember for the life of me.  Got my old cruddy stuff off, now I have to
> reinstall, so HELP ASAP.  Thanks.  Igor.
> 
> Igor Todorovic
> 
> 1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23 posi)
> 1981 Regency 98 (307/2004t/propane)
> 1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)


They go up.

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:36:05 EDT
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rice burner

Go get them Butch!!!!!!!


Chris Sommerville
69 442 SC
70 442HC
70W31
AND LOTS OF PARTS FOR SALE!!!!!!!

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:53:31 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: emblem locations/ solution ?

> hey mikey, i just happen to have a frt. clip and rear deck lid from a 442
> without the emblems .  i could measure the holes and send the info. along to
> you if it helps.     

Steven,

Why just send it to ONE person.  You know, this information can be
invaluable for anyone else doing a restoration too.  This is the sort of
information that should somehow be incorporated into the FAQ, since
sometimes you have to replace a fender with a non-442 one.  And for
those folks replacing Cutlass or F-85 fenders, how about some of the
folks who have access to those do some measuring up as well.  The
assembly manuals show the drawing number to refer to, but without the
original blueprints, we probably will never know.

Just an idea.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:01:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: rice grinders

The 3000GT is ONE OF the finest Japan has to offer.  I guess a
supercharged Civic could be kinda fast-but has anybody got a
supercharged Olds out there?  About the NSX, my handy Motor Trend mag
shows it runs a SEA LEVEL CORRECTED 14.3 and has a base price of
$84,500. It may handle great, but it couldn't even come close to keeping
up with my Oldsmobile.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:06:00 -0400
From: Jim Olson <jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: rice grinders

Greg, 

When did this turn into a Japanese car list?

Just wondering...

Jim...

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:07:56 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Observation

Don, 
Have some good equip there, enjoy them, good luck at the junk yard. You
beat me by a month, Nov, I'll be 50, scary thought!  I guess Daddy's Olds
is actually mine or yours. Pizza and beer is good for the soul, around here
it's BEER and fish, beer in caps, do you think we should start our own
list, the "Over the hill gang". we could have discounts on Geritol and
Viagra, subsidized by AARP or similar org. Just kidding, don't feel a day
over 48. Get those Olds' running, we have to blow the doors off all these
kids. Ha!  Enjoyed your reply, don't want to turn the list into a chat
room, Greg will turn off the key. Good luck, S.I.T.
Lou                                                                        
                                                                      
- ----------
> From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Observation
> Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 12:28 AM

> Likewise, Lou, and yes I am one of the older ones I guess, at 49 (well
> actually 50 next Friday, but what the heck that's next week).  Went out
> for pizza and beer, a Friday night tradition older than I am.  Good news
> is I went out into the garages and cleaned all the boxes, etc off the 69
> and 70 Cutlass convertibles and took a look to see what they need for
> the boneyard expedition tomorrow.  Got to sit in them for the first time
> in years, and yes, I got a bad case of I wannas.  I wanna fix this one,
> I wanna fix that one.  Just felt REALLY GOOD to sit in a Cutlass bucket
> seat again,  D@^n I've missed that and didn't really realize it.  But
> things are looking up, cause we junking tomorrow!!!!  Didn't realize how
> solid my 69 S was until today.  Needs a lot of things and probably a
> total motor rebuild, but it's paid for, it's inside, and it's MINE! 
> WHAT A START!!!!  If my kids behaved as well as my cars life would be
> much simplier.  Everyone have a good weekend.  I've found some parts for
> my BMW, Buick GS, and the Cutlai.  Been a h@!! of week.  Now where did I
> put the stuff I need to rob the bank to pay for all this.........

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:10:53 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: rice grinders

Mom, cherry pie, and Olds', remember Pearl Harbor
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
.

- ----------
> From: Jason P. Labay <jlabay@neo.lrun.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: rice grinders
> Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 12:38 AM
> 
> Yeah as much as I hate the rice scene I have to back this up.  There are
Talons, Eclipses and Lasers here that drive to
> the track, run high 10's, then drive home while still getting 20+
mpg..all this with a little 4 banger.  Saw one tonight
> run down a 71 Cutlass that was a built drag car...tubbed, 4 link, BB Olds
built by Mondello ( so he said), and
> fiberglass panels and lexan glass. There are also VR4's here that run mid
11's with not so many mods. I can't stand the
> damn rice scene, but I sure do respect the ones that can run with the big
boys.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:13:54 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Observation

Yes, 
1975 right side Cutlass Supreme grille in good cond.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
> From: Pjolds@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Observation
> Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 2:14 AM
> 
> NEED PARTS LET ME KNOW.
> 
> PJOLDS

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:25:43 -0400
From: jgoble@nishanet.com (Jeramy Goble)
Subject: Re: Observation

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I'll make another observation. We have probably the most powerful stock =
automobiles left on the roads. Take my 69 Toronado. About 400 HP since =
the rebuild, torque that will rip your head off and two tons of GM steel =
that will eat-mash-chew-push-any other auto in or out of the ditch. And =
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those rice cookers you can by at Waldomart. I love being 46.=20
Hope I can make it to 69 to match the Toronados year.=20
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:21:20 EDT
From: Bowtie911@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tag Bracket

Looking for a front tag bracket for my 65 442. My front bumper apparently has
never had a tag on it, no holes for one. In New Jersey need front tag. 
bowtie911
65 442

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:29:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: 455 pan & windage screen

Could anyone please recommend to me a good fitting oil pan, with windage
screen and boxed or trap door type pickup?   I'd like to  get a new one
if possible, and have had good luck with Hamburgers brand but don't have
a catalog for them.  Is it true that the windage screen bolts on to the
main studs? I heard  the 460 Ford models by ARP work even better.
Vacation calls but I'll check back wed or thurs.  Have a good weekend
everybody!

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:30:23 EDT
From: Brewracer@aol.com
Subject: please remove me from list

please remove me from list.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:30:25 EDT
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations/ solution ?

In a message dated 98-10-17 14:57:53 EDT, you write:

>Steven,
>
>Why just send it to ONE person.  You know, this information can be
>invaluable for anyone else doing a restoration too.  This is the sort of
>information that should somehow be incorporated into the FAQ, since
>sometimes you have to replace a fender with a non-442 one.  And for
>those folks replacing Cutlass or F-85 fenders, how about some of the
>folks who have access to those do some measuring up as well.  The
>assembly manuals show the drawing number to refer to, but without the
>original blueprints, we probably will never know.
>
>Just an idea.
>
>Mike Rothe

ok by me, i have enough parts cars years and models that i could probably help
out a few people.  question is how to post it so as to not disrupt others on
the list.  suggestions anyone?   steven,  w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:39:12 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: emblem locations/ solution ?

> ok by me, i have enough parts cars years and models that i could probably 
help
> out a few people.  question is how to post it so as to not disrupt others on
> the list.  suggestions anyone?   steven,  w30442cs@aol.com

I volunteer to post it on my webpage for now.  I'm not sure where to
send it for inclusion onto the FAQ.  

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:05:17 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations

Building a "clone" , ehhh?...You gave yourself away when you asked for the
trunk location as well as the location for the new fenders...haha...Don't be
ashamed, I am building a fake as well...Only mine is MUCH faster than a real
one!

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:07:44 -0700
From: "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net>
Subject: RE: missing

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Your too closed minded so you wouldn't be able to understand and you  need to 
take a math course, 6 pages???

- -----Original Message-----
From:	jalkara [SMTP:jalkara@whidbey.net]
Sent:	Saturday, October 17, 1998 5:36 AM
To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject:	missing


why is it that the guy missing his honda makes me look at 6 pages of
gibberish at the bottom of the message?

olds content,  i think i will go put some ugly black marks on the ground
with the 442 today as it will be dry here today, or maybe go put some
really ugly black marks with the 47.

47rocket98


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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:23:43 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tag Bracket

my 65 is an original front rear tag car...and it has no bracket on the
front...just two holes in the bumper

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:29:46 -0400
From: Ted Rollins <trollins@rfci.net>
Subject: 66 cutlass

Selling my 66 Cutlass=$800.00

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:43:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Enough Already re. Riceburners!!!!

Geez Louise, why is it that this subject always deteriorates into a
flame-fest?!? It's deja vu all over again; the same thing happened a
couple of years ago. I'm going to do the same thing now that I did then:
anyone who continues this subject from this point forward is gone. Same
with anyone who uses this list for insults, jingoisms, or other useless
posts. 

Take it to the newsgroups if you want to do that. I'm NOT going to put up
with it here!

Continue at your own peril. Enough said.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:48:01 EDT
From: LooseCanno@aol.com
Subject: Open letter about list traffic

 GREG, et al:

PLEASE reconsider the "Reply-to" setting on list postings!

Replies really should go back to the sender, not to the list.  Anyone who has
valuable input for the list will take the time to address (or forward)  a
useful response to the list address, and frankly it's easier to respond
personally to message if a reply to the sender (and not the list) is
automatic.

I'm sending this message to the whole list because I think something MUST be
done - I will have to unsubscribe otherwise.  If you take this one step it
will reduce list traffic by 80%!!

By the way, I only got 16 responses (through the list) from pjolds in the last
18 hours - if someone could check their mailbox and let me know if there were
MORE than 16....

Erik

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:07:38 -0500
From: Shang <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

LooseCanno@aol.com wrote:
> 
>  GREG, et al:
> 
> PLEASE reconsider the "Reply-to" setting on list postings!
> 
> Replies really should go back to the sender, not to the list.  Anyone who has
> valuable input for the list will take the time to address (or forward)  a
> useful response to the list address, and frankly it's easier to respond
> personally to message if a reply to the sender (and not the list) is
> automatic.
> 
> I'm sending this message to the whole list because I think something MUST be
> done - I will have to unsubscribe otherwise.  If you take this one step it
> will reduce list traffic by 80%!!
> 
> By the way, I only got 16 responses (through the list) from pjolds in the 
last
> 18 hours - if someone could check their mailbox and let me know if there were
> MORE than 16....
> 
> Erik



I just want to share my thoughts on this subject. I do not think that
changing the reply to sender is a good option for this forum. There are
many times when a person will post a question, that many silent masses
want to know also. Either because they need to know and haven't asked
yet or they are just curious. If we implement the reply to sender
format, I think we will just start seeing the same questions asked over
and over again or "me too" posts - because I think a lot of people want
to see the answer. 

Would it be more feasible for us to move to a web based bulletin board
system like the Chevelle page? 
(www.chevelles.com/cgi-bin/forum/Ultimate.cgi)

I agree that the endless masses of email and seeing 10 reponses all
saying the same thing is difficult to deal with. By using a web based
BBS, everyone can see the daily activity, and see the responses
immediatly and do not have post reduntant answers - plus the members are
free to browse at their convience and leisure, as opposed to "wading'
through mountains of email.

Of course this does present other problems like a place to host it and
someone to create/administer it. The bottom line for me is that the
reply to sender option will just create a different kind of useless
email and will be even less informative and enjoyable than the list is
currently.

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:24:31 EDT
From: Brewracer@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations/ solution ?

Please remove me from list.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:45:52 EDT
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations

GT5726@aol.com writes:

<< Building a "clone" , ehhh?...You gave yourself away when you asked for the
 trunk location as well as the location for the new fenders...haha...Don't be
 ashamed, I am building a fake as well...Only mine is MUCH faster than a real
 one!
  >>
no clone here.  want to see build sheet?  how about receipts on front fenders?
if it helps i have the build sheet in front of me right now.  ask me anything
about it.  i wouldn't be ashamed of building a clone if i was.  sorry try some
of these other peoples cars.

mikeytvb@aol.com

ps:  title 4 title is the only way i race

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:18:38 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Gutless Cutlass??

very cool!

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:57:32 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    I personally like to see the
responses of others to a post. If everyone relpies directly to a postee, then
the theard stops at that point! (and curious others that like to learn from
others suggestions, like myself, get left out in the cold)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:51:35 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: 79 hurstolds dualgate shifter fs

Just thought I'd add that I came across a guy who had a few of those top
plates that he ordered years ago from Olds or whoever, still brand new in
the box.  He wanted $150 just for one of those.  I told him to go fly a
kite.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:36:16 EDT W451973@aol.com writes:
>i have a 79 hurstolds dualgate for sale. shifter is still tight but 
>the chrome
>on the handle is bad. top plate is presentable but not perfect. i have 
>the
>brackets to mount it to the floor, but NO cable or cable to 
>transmission
>brackets. sorry i dont know where to find these. hurst still rebuilds 
>these
>and you can get a new chrome handle. price is $150.00 firm plus 
>shipping. just
>want to get what i have in it. i live in lincoln park michigan just 
>outside of
>detroit. thanks. if interrested e-mail me directly please.
>w451973@aol.com
>p.s.   always looking for 73 hurstolds parts  thanks again
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:34:05 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Olds 403

I'm quite happy with the Performer RPM, no loss of low end torque and
plenty of pull all the way through.  yes, keep it under 6000!  

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:02:56 -0700 Andy Lawrence
<lawrencj@coral.indstate.edu> writes:
>
>
>Hello, I am building a 79 Cutlass with a 403 engine....The engine is 
>basically stock with the exception of a mild cam....Would you guies 
>suggest the Performer or Performer RPM Manifold?  What would be the 
>highest RPM be with the Wido Weeb Block?  I heave heard that if you 
>keep it under 6000 you are alright....I also have a built 10 bolt rear 
>end out of my 72 cutlass that i want to put into my 79, is that a 
>direct bolt in using the stock 79 coutrol arms?
>
>Thanx in advance.......
>
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:31:18 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Vacuum Line Replacement

Jim,

I'm going by my car, but it's probably the same.  
You need vacuum to go to:
- -power brake booster
- -pcv valve
- -vent control booster (if the vents were vacuum controlled in 70?)
- -vacuum advance (as above)
- -do 70 cars have a vacuum line going to the transmission?

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:53:19 EDT DROLDS350@aol.com writes:
>I am getting ready to put vacuum lines back on my car and was 
>wondering where
>they go. When I bought the car all the hoses had been ripped off. What 
>hoses
>connect to the carb? I have a '70 455 automatic with power brakes. I 
>looked in
>the manual and really couldn't find any solution. Can anyone out there 
>h#lp
>me?
>Thanks,
>Jim McKeague
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:17:12 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Parting out 84 H/Oand sell 4  complete 6/8sH/Os.

Unfortunately, I'm on the other side of the country.  I'm not into
shipping costs of transmissions and seats, so no thanks...

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:46:50 EDT Socalolds@aol.com writes:
>Ray,
>I'm in central California. Clovis to be precise. Interested?
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:50:00 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: engine weight

Hey!  I live in Hilltown, about twenty minutes from Warminster.  You
don't live there anymore?

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:32:57 EDT DROLDS350@aol.com writes:
>hi ray
>         where at in bucks county do you live? i used to live in 
>warminster
>across from william tennant high  school.
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:59:53 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Parts, new

Hey parts locator!  Can you find me a set of high-flow exhaust manifolds
that'll bolt to 72 350 (7a) heads?!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:26:41 EDT Pjolds@aol.com writes:
>HI THERE, I MAY BE OF SOME HELP TO YOU. I'M A PARTS LOCATOR I 
>SPECIALIZE IN
>THE OLDSMOBILES. DROP A LINE WITH THE PARTS YOU NEED. THANX, PAUL 
>MAIERS
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:02:41 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations

then just look at the old fenders...just a JOKE!!!!!!...Im am a smart a**...as
for the Title 4 Title thing...did you have to do a title search to have one?

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:24:23 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Daytona under the lights, 8:00

Don't forget!  TNN
Let's see Earnhardt get this one too!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:09:54 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: missing

Insults to those who are anit-rice burner are not acceptable.  It's not a
matter of being close-minded, it's seeing, considering, and realizing
it's really f***ing stupid; all of that crap.  

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:07:44 -0700 "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net> writes:
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>
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>Sent:	Saturday, October 17, 1998 5:36 AM
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>
>
>why is it that the guy missing his honda makes me look at 6 pages of
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>
>olds content,  i think i will go put some ugly black marks on the 
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