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oldsmobile-digest     Monday, September 28 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1512



Re: Everyone lists their cars
RE: Original poster for "list cars"
Re: List Cars
Car Value
Re: 425 big boy
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: 72 Olds TH-350 4sale
Re: 425 big boy
Re: Original poster for "list cars"
Re: Aftermarket Radio
RE: Beating a dead horse..
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: last call for list member discounts
Disc Brake Conversion
Re: 425 big boy
Re: 83 CSB Grills needed
Re: 1970 Cutlass "S" Convertable
Re: Everyone list their cars
cars
Big Mac, Sorry Greg, non OLDS
Cars list, wives, winners, and rambling...
OFF LINE
??????????????????????????????????????
84 Delco radios
Blasting and painting
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Exaust manifolds
Re: 83 CSB Grills needed
Starter/Solenoid problems
1979 Hurst Olds W-30 T-tops black & gold
Re: List Cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Digest 1512
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: junkyard
Re: List Cars
RE: Aftermarket Radio
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
g*d* starter!
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: No one has a Bravada?
Speakers in a 67 Toro
literature
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Shade Tree Cutlass
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Aftermarket Radio
Re: KEYS?
Re: 83 CSB Grills needed
Re: "one-wire" alternators
Re: Aftermarket Radio
Re: Beating a dead horse..
Re: 425 big boy

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:34:47 -0400
From: dclover@epix.net
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

WHERE DO you guys keep this things???
Or are you not married, involved,     maybe independently wealthy,
whatever???

Dan Jones

'70 Cutlass Supreme Convertible    My son's daily driver--- 68K orig
miles--My Uncle was an Olds dealer in 1970 and this was his wifes car.
Just repainted and new top---needs interior and some exterior chrome.
Engine pretty good.

Won't list others---this is the only on that counts.

Oldsmagnet wrote:

> Sorry Greg...  I'm sure you cringe every time ~this~ subject comes
> up...  Seems
> like every couple months someone asks that question, and the list is
> flooded...
> ~BUT~, at least, it ~is~ Olds related, and is clean and flameless
> (mostly....
> with the possible exception of people listing their che*ies...  I let
> that
> slide...  Unless they list the inferiors ~first~!)  Anyway, since some
> ~are~
> keeping score, here's my bandwidth beating for the weekend:
>
> Hafta think about this for a while... Lesssseee here...  OK, newest to
> Oldsest
> ;)
>
> 83 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, 3.8L, T-tops, the "Teaser" "TEZR
> OFF" -black
> 82 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, 260, clean, needs engine, 92K -
> blue/silver
> 82 Olds Cutlass Supreme, No engine/tranny, parts car - light jadestone
>
> 81 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, no E/T, parts, stripped, burgundy
> 81 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, no E/T, parts, white, mostly intact
> 81 Olds Cutlass Supreme, "The Rockit" Big block, soon to be 455
> again...
>         All toys, see web page for more info.  Dk/lt Jadestone,
> "ROCKIT 1"
> 77 Olds Toronado, 403, loaded, complete, driver. blue
> 73 Olds Toronado.  Complete, parts (someday) miced bad.  Yellow
> 73 Olds Toronado, no doghouse, donor block for the Rockit.  White.
> Parts.
> 70 Olds Delta 88, parts, stripped, green/gold
> 69 Olds Ninety Eight, parts, totalled, no E/T gold
> 68 Olds Delta 88, Possible parts, no E/T gold
> 67 Olds Ninety Eight convertible.  One of not many...  No E/T.
> Project, yellow
> 67 Olds Toronado, No engine, loaded, "FAST FWD" (almost!) gold
> 66 Olds Toronado, No engine.  Parts green
>
> 83 Buick Turbo Regal, GN lookalike.  No tranny/carb.  black, project,
>         "TRBO LVR" someday...
> 78 Buick Century wagon - no E/T, parts, stirpped
> 71 Buick Skylark, 2 dr htp, parts car, 350, stripped - blue
> 70 Buick Skylark, 2 dr htp. parts car, complete - green
> 70 Buick GS 455, white, black stripes, "BT UR 4D" -driver
> 57 Buick Special, 4dr htp, future project, needs work!!! Blue/white
>
> 82 f*rd EXP - Red, stripped
> 82 f*rd EXP - white, complete
> 57 f*rd Fairlane - 2dr post, no E/T
>
> '97 Circle D 18' dovetail car trailer (since we're getting it ~all~
> out here! :)
> '97 Rock Runner/Car Crusher II (R/C!!! :)
>
> Oh, and ~had~ 82 Firebird, 84 Gran Prix, and 82 Mazda 626...
>
> Hmm...   ~Must~ be most of 'em...  Probably forgetting one or two.....
>
> Looking at picking up an early 80s Buick, haven't seen it yet.
> Also been working towards an 84 Cutlass, 307/T-tops.  Been planning to
> grab it
> all summer, haven't come up with the $$$.  Come winter, it might be
> tough...
>
> You can see more of most of these on my web page below
> --
> Oldsmagnet - Charley Buehner @ Sidney Montana |\      |-------|
> mailto:buehner@lyrea.com To mail direct to me |/\|=|  |   |   |
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:36:58 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Original poster for "list cars"

On Sunday, September 27, 1998 8:27 PM, Greg Beaulieu 
[SMTP:ab348@chebucto.ns.ca]
wrote: > > menu). And whatever software automatically puts in a winmail.dat 
file
in > email messages deserves to be permanently retired from here. The digests >
would be a whole lot more useful if they contained plain text messages > only.
Thanks.

I know that I've posted a few times a while back with enclosed attachments that
my mail program didn't even notice.  I didn't know I was doing it until someone
e-mailed me privately about it.
 Whenever someone on the digest mode occurs a problem like this, please notify
the sender immediately!  I'm sure I was causing lots of annoyances until
someone called me on it.  Lots of times, if the e-mail program encloses
proprietary information along with the e-mail, it filters it out upon receipt,
like mine.  I didn't know I was doing it because Outlook 97 didn't display any
attachments, even though it was including them when I sent it out.

Thanks.

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:39:40 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: List Cars

Peter:
Do not take it seriously, Enjoy your posts. Was a put on. Was not a flame
at all, only person I know thats gets flamed periodically is me, but I
don't really care. Humor, is the essence of life. If not, we're in the
Fourth Reich, even the Majordomo knows this!
Lou Biggs

- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: List Cars
> Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 6:54 PM

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:43:46 -0700
From: "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net>
Subject: Car Value

Need some help from the group. I just looked at a 1970 Delta 88 (not royale)
Convertible, Rocket 350ci, auto trans, stardard windows, new top(working), body
in very good shape, 101,000 miles. /the car is still original, has the stock
radio in working condition, clock in the dash works, dash in excellent shape,
dash courtesy works, no tilt on the wheel. Front seats are worn and need to at
some point be re-upholstered. The back seats are in real good condition, the
front left and right door panels (bottom 4/5ths) including arm rests are pretty
much shot, rear door panels on either side are fine, even the rear center seat
speaker works. The body is straight with 3 small surface rust problems, trunk 
is
in good shape, there is a dent in the right door at the front about mid level,
though barely noticeable. The only major problem is in the leading edge of the
convertible frame has some good size rust damage (not noticleable unless
closesly inspected), I believe the whole front pie!
 ce will need to be replaced.
What is a fair value on a car like this?? I appreciate any suggestions from 
you
all. Thanks, Bruce 1975 Delta 88 Convertible Royale

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:43:53 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: 425 big boy

At 08:13 PM 9/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Went yarding yesterday. Saw a 425 in a '78 Caddy. Isn't that one of ours?
>
yup it is one of ours, Cadilac put lots of Olds engines in there cars :)
I do seem to remember a caddy built 425 too,
Somewhere around 64-66 model years

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:45:39 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

At 08:34 PM 9/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>WHERE DO you guys keep this things???
>Or are you not married, involved,     maybe independently wealthy,
>whatever???
>
>
they have Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge ,,,,,,tracks of land.


sorry.

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:46:33 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Re: 72 Olds TH-350 4sale

	hi peter
  if you still have your trans for sale ,iam interested. i live in naperville
but iam familiar with the burbank area as i used to live at 81st and austin
and 83rd and narragansett  please give me your phone number again and ill call
you to set up a time to pick it up
                                       thanks
                                            jim

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:55:02 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: 425 big boy

Dave Cullen wrote:
>
> Went yarding yesterday. Saw a 425 in a '78 Caddy. Isn't that one of ours?
>
> Hmmm.....wonder if it'd fit a B-body......when the 307 breaks.
>
> drc

Caddy used 425 from '77(?) to '80(?), but I think they are of their own
design, not Olds motors.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:57:19 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Original poster for "list cars"

Greg,
Never use HTML,  been on the list about that time frame, never saw kind of
that response before. Read earlier posts I sent. I'm a pain in the a*s, but
not a butthead. Do not wish to cause a problem. In Illinois ignorance of
the law is no excuse, get ticket away.
Lou
- ----------
> From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Original poster for "list cars"
> Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 7:27 PM
>
> On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Lou Biggs wrote:
> > WE CAN ONLY DO THIS ONCE, right Greg?

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:00:25 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Radio

Peter Landowski wrote:
>
> I was looking to install an aftermarket radio in my 72 442. It has the
> original AM/FM "stereo" radio in it. I want to install a radio that will
> fit like the original WITHOUT any hacking. One that will play cassettes and
> or CDS.

You could do what I did.  I was perfectly happy with the sound quality
of the stereo in my '72.  I wanted to ad a factory 8-track anyway, and
one day I stumble upon a running parts car that had on.  It was even
black.  So I swapped it over to mine.  Now, there aren't many 8-tracks
that I'd wanna listen to, and those that I would seem to disintegrate as
soon as you try to play them, so I picked up a cassette adapter at
Carlisle to play cassettes.  Then I got a portable CD player with a
cassette adapter (you might want to remove the inner gears of the
cassette adapter, they're kinda noisey).  So now I can listen to
cassettes or CDs in both the '72 and my '67 Ninety Eight.  And I haven't
done anything to ruin the appearance of either car.  And I think they
both sound better than the stereo in my new truck.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:02:30 -0700
From: "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net>
Subject: RE: Beating a dead horse..

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Where can Tamarz parts be reched???? On the net???

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From:	DROLDS350@aol.com [SMTP:DROLDS350@aol.com]
Sent:	Sunday, September 27, 1998 5:21 PM
To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Cc:	DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject:	Re: Beating a dead horse..

	i got my complete interior from tamaraz parts they match prices so i 
saved
on shipping costs because i live  in the area
jim

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:04:23 EDT
From: KASOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

70 442
75 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 454
89 Beretta

Check out the truck, 442, and cars I have owned in the past at:
http://members.aol.com/KASOLDS/mycars.htm.

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:20:13 EDT
From: Bowtie911@aol.com
Subject: Re: last call for list member discounts

Harvey Shaw
505 Hazel Ave
Vineland, N.J.
bowtie911@aol.com
65 442

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:22:38 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Disc Brake Conversion

Well, now that I've waded through my 138 list posts for today, most of
which had something to do with listing cars, I find that I have a few
minutes to post something before its time for bed.

That was supposed to be funny :)

Anyway, I'm about half way through my disc brake conversion.  The
driver's side is finished.  Also installed new ball joints, thanks to
the BFH slipping and ruining the threads on the lower one.  Thought I
ruined the tie rod end also (separator wasn't doint the job), but I was
able to save it with the aid of a die.

But my point to all this is that a question has come to me about those
special brake hose brackets.  When I removed all the part from my parts
car, I removed everything (well, everything except for the disc brake
pad springs in the pistons, they either weren't there or I threw them
away), including these brackets.  I don't know if I knew I was to remove
the brackets when I did so, I kind of think I did it 'cause it seemed
easier at the time than fooling around with disconnecting the hoses.
So, when I did the driver's side I took the old bracket off and
installed the disc bracket.  While doing so, I was looking at the hose
ends and looking at the brake line and thinking "Why?".  Why the
different bracket?  Why is it necessary to change the brackets when
converting?  And, why did GM have two different brackets to begin with?
They hardly look any different and it looks as though I could have used
the old bracket with the disc parts.  Or do the hoses have different
ends on them (on the bracket end)?  Guess I should check that out next
weekend.  Anyway, I'm putting them on 'cause I have 'em and I figure
there must be a reason.

Paul

'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe (Kathryn, or The Ghetto Cruiser)
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible (Josephine, or Lemon Drop)
'98 Chevy K-1500 Ext. Cab (no name)
- --
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:26:17 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: 425 big boy

> Went yarding yesterday. Saw a 425 in a '78 Caddy.

Been a while, but I'm pretty sure Caddy had their own version of the 425,
totally different critter.  Not sure what internal design was like, but it 
seems
to me they had an AC compressor where ours has an oil tube...  If that helps :)
Never heard that they were much on power, either...  although never heard that
they ~weren't~ for that matter.

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:31:46 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: 83 CSB Grills needed

> will another year fit the 83?

Naw, they're pretty rare...  gotta use 'em from either 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, or 
86
CS, CC or CSBs...  :)

Oh, let me rephrase that...  ANY Olds 2 dr Cutlass RWD G-body from 81 to 86 
will
interchange perfectly.  Get the pair though, as they changed ~looks~ between
each year/trim designation.

Often the mounting pods will break out, and render the grilles useless.  I've
plastic welded them up several times, and they seem to hold for a year or so.
Less if some jacka** tries testing the "pheasant guard" options...  (Dummies!
Almost became postal on ~one~ kid that tried that...  Told him not to push on
'em, not to even touch 'em...  So what does he do?  asks "why not" and pushes
one of em.  Crack.  Broke two of the three mounts and there it hung, limp, for 
a
week, until I got a chance to fix it...  Coulda killed him!!!!!)

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:31:28 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 1970 Cutlass "S" Convertable

Does anybody know anything about a 1970 Cutlass "S" convertable? ...This
car that they sold was supposed to be the only one produced in '70 and the
only one to be produced from the 1970-1972 era.
_________

Well, if it is indeed a Cutlass S convert, it would be the only one
produced (one of none?)  As you know, all 70-72 converts were based on the
Supreme body; I'm guessing an "S" convert would look like one of the 68-69
convertibles.  I won't say that it isn't possible, as many weird and
wonderful "abnormalities" were produced by Detroit in the 60s and early 70s
(like the documented 1966 four door 442), but I've certainly never heard of
a 70-72 "S" convertible before.  Is this perhaps a prototype?  If so, and
if properly documented, it would be worth a lot.

Here's an interesting question:  What's the VIN?  The 68-69
"fastback"-based converts used the "67" body style designation, but this
"67" was reassigned to the "notchback"-based converts in 70-72 (even though
the other divisions retained the "67" designation for their
"fastback"-based convertibles in those years).  If it were truely a
factory-built car, it would have a VIN starting 336670Mxxxxxx, whereas the
Supreme-based converts obviously had VINs like 342670Mxxxxxx.  Note that
I've assumed that anything close to a one-off _must_ have been build in
Lansing.  I would offer the thought that if the car has a Supreme convert
VIN, or an "S" VIN for any body style other than a convertible, the car has
been fabricated by someone other than Olds.

Not to be cynical, but it wouldn't surprise me to find that this really is
a Supreme convertible that has had Cutlass S emblems put on it.  I say this
because you don't have to think very long about the unique stamping dies
that would be required to build a 70 "S" convertible before you realize
that it is unlikely that the factory built one (unlike that four door 442 I
mentioned above, where all you'd need to do is install the correct
driveline and emblems).  The alternative, of course, is a substantial
amount of hand fabrication, which certainly is possible.  Maybe this was a
custom-built car for the show car circuit (along the lines of the Apollo
442 from 1969, with its four bucket seats).  More likely, however, would be
finding out that the nose has been replaced sometime in the past, and the
emblems were never changed...  Note that the 69 442 I just bought is a
"Cutlass Supreme 442" if you believe the emblems on the front fenders (yes,
the nose _was_ replaced about 20 years ago).  Definitely check it out and
let us know.

As an aside, Olds was the only GM division to build a convertible on the
"notchback" body style in 70-72.  There were obviously no Monte Carlo or
Grand Prix converts those years, and the Skylark/LeMans/Chevelle converts
_were_ based on the "fastback" body just like the 68-69 cars.  Olds was
also the only division to use the short 112" wheelbase under their
notchbacks, both the Monte and the GP were longer (I'm assuming they used
the 116" wheelbase of the 4 door cars, but somebody check me here).  You
can really see the additional length between the front wheels and the door.
Also, if you've ever looked under the hood of a Monte of that vintage, it
must have the world's longest fan shroud.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:36:32 -0400
From: Jerry Christopher <ithefunki@cchat.com>
Subject: Re: Everyone list their cars

Jerry's Short List...

87 Cutlass Supreme (F-442)

Aquiring an 83 Cutlass to make a F-Hurst
or an 85 to make another F-442...

Maybe I oughta just find a REAL 442...  heh heh.
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:44:12 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: cars

67 Cutlass hardtop - daily driver - .......M4A3E8....
67 Cutlass drop top 455 5 speed .......M36
81 F100                                           ........Deuce and a half


The General

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:47:01 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Big Mac, Sorry Greg, non OLDS

To all;
Mac did it, I was kind of rooting for Sosa, " Bazeball being betti, betti,
good to me" was great. being a St. Lou. boy,  I have to root for Big Mac
but Sosa was cool!. Hope Chi gets in the playoffs. Find out tomorrow.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:54:29 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Cars list, wives, winners, and rambling...

dclover@epix.net wrote:
>
> WHERE DO you guys keep this things???
> Or are you not married, involved,     maybe independently wealthy,
> whatever???

Well, mine have various homes...  Majority are stored at the parents' farm.
Some rest peacefully at a friends farm, and six are out in the street...  Me?
Single.  (All in unison... "Stay Intoxicated Nightly, Get......... "  Guess I'm
not as fortunate as Foxworthy's acquaintances...  Lou may consider me the 
winner
so far, but I gotta submit hands down to Peter:

> badge.  My wife's position is that I don't gamble, smoke, run around with
> other women or break dishes or bodies.  So if I want some old used car, and
> the bills are paid, she says, have at it.  Peter.

Been in the S.O. position in the past, and had my share of non-supportive
types.  Sounds like you definately got it good there.  Like most of us, my cars
are my children, and many women don't like that kind of competition.  Had one
who insisted that every minute I spent with my car (yes, ~only~ one then!!!) 
was
a minute that I stole from her.  God.  That was almost the biggest mistake of 
my
life...  Since then, my girlfriends (it seems) have gotten younger, but more
mature...  Guess there ~is~ the ability to learn after all...  Since moving to
Sidney, there hasn't been much competition between cars and women, though...
Seems like there's no time for either.  But since I'm single, I actually got
some car-stuff done today...  First free day in ages that the weather was
nice...  Amazing.  Definately feel for those down south...  hoping for the best
there!

	<> <> <> <> <> <>     B  I  G    S  N  I  P      <> <> <> <> <> <>

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:54:24 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: OFF LINE

Greg,
Are we down?
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:58:35 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: ??????????????????????????????????????

Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:59:28 EDT
From: JCRASH7@aol.com
Subject: 84 Delco radios

I have been pondering this for a while, and have decided to do it.

I know lot's of you guys out there put aftermarket stereos in your early 80's
Olds's.  My current aftermarket radio is almost as old as the stock one, so I
thought I should try to locate an original radio.

Anyway, my 84 Delta 88 came stock with an analog AM/FM stereo radio.  (Don't
remember if it had cassette, but I don't think so.)  I was looking in my
owner's manual, and found a factory Delco digital cassette deck that fits in
the factory location- (see my bad ASCII text drawing.

      _         __________________       _
     /  \        |                              |      /  \
    /     \      |                              |     /    \
     \    /      |                              |     \    /
      \_/       |_________________|       \_/

I don't want to cut, and I saw that the optional digital cassette deck has
more features than my current Panasonic, so If anyone has what I'm looking
for, please contact me privately.

Joe
jcrash7@aol.com
http://members.tripod.com/~jcrash7

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:05:22 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Blasting and painting

In anticipation of the arrival of my new 69 442, I started to sandblast and
prime the 15 x 7 SSIIIs that I got from Hans in SoCal.  Two observations:

First, I must say that, lacking a blast cabinet, I'd forgotten the simple
joys of open air sand blasting.  The dust.  The grit.  The sand in every
orifice of your body...

Perhaps I'll look for a good deal on a blast cabinet at Carlisle next
weekend.

For the record, I put the wheel in a very large cardboard box, mainly to
contain the sand.  I also had a mask and goggles, neither of which
prevented grains of sand from ending up in my teeth and eyebrows.

Second, I'd forgotten what  a b*tch it is to paint an SSIII wheel.  Even
using a small touchup gun, it's very difficult to apply paint evenly to the
myriad of surfaces while not leaving bare spots or runs.  Oh, joy.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:17:32 EDT
From: KJesk@aol.com
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

68 Olds 442 2Dr

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:24:40 -0400
From: "rkn" <rkn@ezaccess.net>
Subject: Exaust manifolds

To all,
	I went to a car show today and saw some interesting iron. I noticed 
that
there was only one Olds there, a 64 F-85. It wasn't in the best of shape
but it won a trophy anyway because it was the only one in it's class. I'm
looking foreward to finishing my '66 Dynamic 88 convertible because I'm
confident that I'll be the only one in my class also. Anyway the point of
this post isn't really about shows or trophys. I have a dilemma. Jim
Chermack has informed me that the "w" or "x" exaust manifolds won't fit my
88 because the steering box is mounted behind the A frame. Leaving no room
for a drivers side, rear ported manifold. (Right now I have the stock,
single exaust manifold set-up on the car, and with the engine mod.s I've
made it's definately not enough.) At the show today, I saw a 67 Buick
Electra 225 with a 430ci motor. The car had stock manifolds on it and they
were for a dual exaust set-up. This car also had the steering box mounted
behind the "A" frame.
My question to anyone who might be able to answer it is this: First, did
Oldsmobile ever make a manifold like the Buick, that was rear ported but
curved sharply toward the block for the 425 or 455? Second, does anyone
know if the 430 Buick manifolds will fit a 455?
	Anything anyone can tell me here would be greatly appreciated.
				Thanks in advance,
				R. Kevin Noon
				66 Dynamic 88 Convertible
				85 Delta 88 Royale Brogham

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:49:18 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: 83 CSB Grills needed

Any 81-86 grilles will fit.  86 is my favorite (thin vertical lines).
They're easy to steal off your neighbor's car.  just kiding!

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                        Bucks County, PA

On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:51:26 EDT MFATZII@aol.com writes:
>Mom has a 1983 CSB (new to her) and needs one of the grills.  I would
>like a
>pair though to make it look right.  The one that she still has is
>painted
>(inside the little squares) black and I'm not sure they all were made
>that way
>in 83.  All the ones at the junk yard are busted.......will another
>year fit
>the 83?
>
>
>Ryan (MFatzII@aol.com)
>Lincoln,   Nebraska  (Home of the Cornhuskers, too bad they suck !)
><<Turn it on, Wind it up, Blow it out, OLDS-MO-BILE>>
>
>56 88 4dr Sedan  (Project Rocket)
><A HREF="http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/rides/wieders2/">Click
>here</A>
>83 Cutlass Supreme Brougham (mom's)
>85 Cutlass Supreme Brougham (girlfriend's)
>89 Chevy Beretta CL (Ryan's  a.k.a   pool shark)
>
>
>    888            888
>  8      8       8       8
>  8      8       8       8
>    8  8           8   8         LIVES
>  8      8       8       8
>  8     8        8       8
>    888            888
>

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:27:44 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com>
Subject: Starter/Solenoid problems

I have a problem, and what I thought it was, it is not.

When I try to start, about 50% of the time, the starter spins, but does not
turn the motor over.  So I figured, ok, solenoid, simple, right?  Well, put a
new one on and guess what?  Same deal.  So according to my 1975 Ponitac, 1976
and 1985 Olds books, they say remove and repair starter.  According to the
1985 book, I have the 5MT starter.  What would be wrong if it works part of
the time, but not all of the time?   There is no missing teeth, and the
flywheel is like new (Thanks Chris!  Well taken care of!)

Ok, part 2, can I use a 455 starter on my 77 350 in a 85 chassis?   The 1976
Service manual says it is a Ultra High Performance starter.  Ok, I am
sold.....Can I use it?!?!?!?  Is it a what xxMT number is it?

Can I use the Diesel starter?  It is a gear reduction starter, it runs slower,
but more power.  Any reason to use or not use?  Would be easier to crank a
cold engine over in sub zero weather, will 4400 rpm pinion speed be enough to
start a gas V8?  The normal starter is 6000 rpm, and the Toro is 9000!!
(27MT, cannot use on normal Olds V8, sorry, I already researched that!)  My V8
starts great as it is.  Anyone try this?

I have heard that the Pontiacs and Olds use the same starter, and the Buicks
and Chevy use the same.  Can anyone confirm?  I have a 301 Turbo starter (said
to be a special high torque model according to some parts books) that I may
try.  It has a special place, so I can't lose it.  1980 Factory starter that
still works fine.

In 1991 I bought a 70 455 Pontiac starter for the high compression motor, $30
at Napa.  Anyone know if you can still get deals like that and get a good
starter?

Thanks!
Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Casteel <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: 1979 Hurst Olds W-30 T-tops black & gold

At 11:56 AM 9/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Found a 1979 Hurst Olds W-30 T-tops white & gold for sale on ebay.
>Car is located in Rockingham, NC

That black/gold one for $4450 in Clarksville, Tennessee is still advertised
in the local paper.

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:50:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Casteel <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: List Cars

Hey, I think it's great! I've used the posts to show my wife all these
people who own in excess of 6 old cars (many of which, for numerous reasons,
aren't running). Hoped it would convince her to let me pick up one or two or
three more. ;-)

Nah, didn't work.

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:54:33 -0400
From: Toby Blom <floridarealtor@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

1966 F85 Deluxe 4dr Ht
1967 F85 2 dr post cpe
1968 Cutlass conv.

Toby Blom
Ft.Lauderdale, FL

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:58:18 -0700
From: steven@purplemonkey.com (Steven Saraceno)
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

1970 442 convertible
1994 SHO ATX - Family
1993 SHO MTX - work & Autocross

Steven
Oak Park Il

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:59:43 -0700
From: steven@purplemonkey.com (Steven Saraceno)
Subject: Digest 1512

Hey, someone send me the 1512 digest it came empty!!!

Steven
70 442 convertible

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:00:47 EDT
From: DKlauber@aol.com
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

70 442 W-30 conv
94 Saab 900SE
95 Saab 900SE
probably soon to be one less Saab and a new minivan

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:05:23 -0400
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@pa.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

1966 442
1969 Cutlass S
1969 Chevy 4wd
1977 Malibu
1985 Cutlass S
1986 Audi 5000S

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:12:29 EDT
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: junkyard

In a message dated 9/27/98 6:04:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rocket409@juno.com writes:

<< Got some bucket seats and a turn signal
 stalk.  $16 total.  I recommend this place to anyone "nearby".   >>

yea, i can relate.  there is a junkyard here in south carolina where i got an
entire 12" disk brake setup off of an '80 caprice station wagon with master
cylinder for $40!!  and they pulled it all off of the car!!!  their cars are
the kind of cars you might pay 50 bucks for, tho, so i guess thats why they
are still in business.
jeremy
'78 cutlass

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:06:59 -0400
From: "Johnny Gage" <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: Re: List Cars

Hey, Peter...  you arent close to VA are you???

hehehe...  I need help doing a frame on of my 67 Toro that is  also a close
to daily driver... heheh

- -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: List Cars


>French, Yugoslavian, Italian, British or Korean builds.  But, times and
>pressures being what they are, in the past few years I've been doing more
>and more frame on restorations.  I specialize in G.M. products from 1959 to
>1971.  But, I've done older, and one or two newer.  Had I thought this was
a

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:53:21 -0500
From: "Kijowski, Stan" <SKIJOWSKI@midland.com>
Subject: RE: Aftermarket Radio

Hi Peter,
This is a very good question. Maybe when everyone gets done bashing the
"inferior" quality of Radio Shack items (personally, I have no opinion on
this subject), someone will respond with an answer to your question. I too
have heard of these conversions and seen advertisements in Hemmings,etc. and
have wondered how they look and work. Hopefully, you will receive an answer
or two from someone who has purchased or had their radio upgraded. If you
don't get an answer and decide to get your stock radio upgraded, please drop
me a line and let me know how you like it because I was looking at having
mine rebuilt to modern technology sometime this winter.  It would be nice to
hear personal experiences from someone to help me decide who to have do the
work.   Good Luck.

> ----------
> From: 	Peter Landowski[SMTP:PETTRIX@prodigy.net]
> Reply To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: 	Saturday, September 26, 1998 9:51 PM
> To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 	Aftermarket Radio
>
> I was looking to install an aftermarket radio in my 72 442. It has the
> original AM/FM "stereo" radio in it. I want to install a radio that will
> fit like the original WITHOUT any hacking. One that will play cassettes
> and
> or CDS. I heard of a company that makes radios "look" like they belong in
> the car but are actually cassette and CD palyers. Year One sells something
> similar for $290.00.
>
> Anyone out there familiar with that field? I want to install something
> that
> sounds great but looks stock (to a certain degree of course).
>
> Pettrix@prodigy.net
>

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:53:11 -0400
From: "Ulysses Melen" <Master-Stile@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:50:01 -0400
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Apologies to all those who feel put upon by this.....

67 Cutlass Convertible (driving up to Mssr. LaPierre to procure new 1/4
panel next weekend)
95 Chrysler Concorde
83 BMW 320i (my wife works at a private school, needed a status symbol)

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:05:53 -0400
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: g*d* starter!

Ok, I know this thread has gone round and round before, but as I went to
start my Cutlass this morning on my way to work, I got the single click
when I turned the key....This isn't the first time, so I knew that it
was probably a dead starter solenoid.
 So, I got out, got my handy floor jack out, and dropped the starter out
of it so I could stop at an auto parts store on my way home from
work....To make a long story short, all ok now.
  My question is this...I just put a starter in there 6 months ago, and
also 2 years before that.  I'm a pro at replacing starters by now.  What
causes this, and what can I do to prevent it?  I've been told before
that it's due to the heat from the motor.  My car does tend to run hot.
It was just recently that I learned about the virtues of lead
substitutes.  Anyway, I was thinking of fashioning some sort of a heat
shield around the solenoid.  What's a good material?  Also, anybody know
the torque specs for the starter bolts?  The very tips of the fins on
the starter gear were just a little worn.  That means that either the
starter wasn't torqued down tight enough, or my wife has been trying
again to start the car after it's already running.

TIA,

art

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:50:24 -0700
From: "John Young" <realtorjohn@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Here's mine

69 442 w-32
98 M*st*ng (Daughters)
95 K 1500 Suburban (Wife's family truckster)
95 *nf*n*t* Q 45 (Daily driver & very fast!)

John Young or realtorjohn@sprynet.com

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:56:12 -0700
From: "John Young" <realtorjohn@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: No one has a Bravada?

FYI had a 92 Bravada, just sold it, something like 215,000 miles on it. The
Olds gods must have at least noticed it!
realtorjohn@sprynet.com

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> From: Ray Costanzo <rocket409@juno.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: No one has a Bravada?
> Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 3:18 PM
>
> cool!  It shouldn't exist, no offense to Olds.
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:24:50 -0400
From: "Johnny Gage" <bladernr@roava.net>
Subject: Speakers in a 67 Toro

I was wondering something today...  the Batmobile had the front dash
speakers...  but it also has the hole and grille for the ceneter mounted
rear speaker that is in the backrest of the rear seat...  I havent been
anble to figure out how to get this open to put a speaker in it, and then
what size speaker will fit?  have you guys had and experience with this??


><> ><> ><> ><> ><> 67 Toronado  ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>

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Fort Lewis Rescue Squad, Inc.   | United Ambulance Service
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you seek knowledge, you will burn in hell. . ."

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Noctum------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:08:21 -0700
From: pettitt@juno.com
Subject: literature

i am not sure as to the information i received regarding this website,
but i have a 1940  model 60, olds coupe.  i have a need for literature or
links as to where i might get a manual or anyother literature for this
car.  i'm having problems getting brake shoes and other misc. parts.  i
would be interested to know if you can help.  thank you
joyce pettitt

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:37:08 -0400
From: "E.J." <oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

E.J.

Hamilton Township(suburb of Trenton)
New Jersey
On digest, not regular
mail

                                  				
1979 Pontiac Trans Am T-tops(403 organ donor for the Calais)
     For Sale. Info at www.1pontiac.com - Bulletin Boards - Cars For
     Sale/Wanted - 79 T/A For Sale - E.J. posted Aug.29, updated Sept
     28.(sorry if i knew how to make a link directly to this i would !.
     Open to some "how-to" on it)
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais 307 K+N T-Tops (soon to be 403)
1985 Olds Toronado 307(newly acquired Sept. 98)
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0 302 HO K+N
1992 Ford F-250 Reg. Cab 4WD 460 Auto. K+N (gee,could my gas
mileage be any worse !,gotta love that big block though)
1994 Toyota (Wow we could have had a V6!) Camry Sedan 4 Banger
Auto. K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!)
(my other halves' ride, forgive me !)

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:37:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: jtherndon@webtv.net (Jeff Herndon)
Subject: Re: Shade Tree Cutlass

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Just a thought...a copy can be ordered by calling 1-800-682-TREE. You
need the episode number they give at the end of the show. If you are
really interested, maybe someone on the list taped it today and can
provide that number, or can make a copy (that would be a lot cheaper).

Jeff Herndon

86 CS 307Y


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DAMN IT!  I WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT THAT!  I MISSED IT AND NO REBROADCAST!

Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
                        Bucks County, PA


On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:33:45 -0500 "M&D Gillespie"
<mgillespie@sprynet.com> writes:
>Hey all,
>
>The ShadeTree Mechs are working on a G-Body Cutlass Power Window.
>Mick Gillespie
>1969 Cutlass Conv.
>1980 Toronado Brougham
>mgillespie@sprynet.com
>http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
>
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:03:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: jtherndon@webtv.net (Jeff Herndon)
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Making the thread a bit longer...

86 Cutlass Supreme 2dr - still a daily driver at 168,000 miles,
but...307Y burns lots of oil thanks to several overheating problems (ran
a couple of times without coolant during a Charleston SC summer five
years ago);stupid, yes, but unavoidable at the time...bad detonation at
part throttle when hot even with 93 octane...still has hot weather
problems; time for professional radiator servicing...no rust, though,
but paint is BAD...nice shiny bebuild on 200 tranny at 167,000
miles...many other problem areas like suspension bushings and long gone
headliner...affectionately known as "Gutless", but look forward changing
the name in the not too distant future.

95 Mitsubishi Mirage - wife's car...no personality (car, not wife), so
no name...want to trade in on 99 Intrigue with new "shortstar" 3.5l when
available.

Jeff Herndon

86 CS 307Y

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Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:33:42 -0400
From: Gary Standiford <phred@fwi.com>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Nice to see what everyone has. Tired of hitting the delete key, though.

Here's mine:

69 Cutlass "S" Convert. - "The Beast" to be renamed "Sunshine" when
she's finally restored back to her original color
87 Cutlass Calais - "Roonie" Wife's daily
94 Saturn SC2 - "Blackie"

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:08:10 EDT
From: David1756@aol.com
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Well, after long search, have found and bought 71 Vista Cruiser.  Nice low
mileage, with plenty of dents but very little rust.  My dream car.

Sending the money off tomorrow, and a friend is taking delivery and keeping it
for me til I can get out there to pick it up.

It won't be as fast as my 442's were, nor as powerful as the Toro's, but it is
a great old Olds.  455 2 barrel, AC, 3rd seat.

Anyone want to drive with me Denver-Chicago this November?  It will be a quick
trip across the prairies....

David Wilk
OCA 4517

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:24:43 EDT
From: KWhite5590@aol.com
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Radio

Have you checked out their home gear?
It's distinctly Pioneer.

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:12:22 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: KEYS?

uh juno cant get attachments so it sees the jpg as ascii text ie code....kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ray Costanzo <rocket409@juno.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: KEYS?


>I hate computers.  I watched my computer knowledgable friend do all the
>necessary whatever to send the scanned image.  I don't know why they
>aren't there.  The picture is somewhere in computerland.  Do you have to
>decode it or something to see it.  What do you mean the image was just
>text?
>
>Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
>                        Bucks County, PA
>On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:56:20 -0700 (PDT) S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
>writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---Ray Costanzo <rocket409@juno.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Did y'all get the key-scan?
>>> Regards to Mr. Snyder at netcarrier.
>>>
>>> Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
>>
>>>                         Bucks County, PA
>>
>>------Uh....nope...all I got was text....it ~showed~ attachment....but
>>it was just text.
>>               John
>>==
>>John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
>>TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
>>1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
>>http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
>>Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
>>-http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts
>>
>>_________________________________________________________
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>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>>
>>
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:32:51 EDT
From: KWhite5590@aol.com
Subject: Re: 83 CSB Grills needed

Ryan,
 Which side do you need? Left or right?

Kevin White
83 CSB, FE3X clone
86 CS, DD

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:17:27 -0700
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: "one-wire" alternators

well the internal regulator alts from gm ALL only require one wire you
connect to the positive post on the back in the normal way then run a jumpef
from there to the field or F terminal of the plastic connector been doin
this for years now everybody thinks it is the greatest thing wish I'd
thought to market the d*m@ things back then......kk
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 2:55 PM
Subject: "one-wire" alternators


>
>Has anyone used one of these alternators in there car?
>I am thinking about one to replace my current alternator and extenal
>regulator.
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:27:19 -0500
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Radio

What is a "stupid light"?

>
>  The one kid had a 61 falcon
>>(yes his
>>stupid light was on)
>>
>Hey, my friend's 67 390 Falcon could keep up, no stupid light in him.  As
>I type this, he may be cruising it on the Autobahn.  cool
>
>Ray Costanzo                                        87 409 Cutlass
>                        Bucks County, PA

- -------------------------------------------------------------
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 MIS Major - UT Austin	 b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu
 2903 Breeze Terrace	 http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ammons/
 Austin, TX 78722	Home :	(512) 236-8088 (Austin)
 1984 Oldsmobile		(713) 776-2110 (Houston)
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:17:15 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Beating a dead horse..

Peter, I got most of my interior from Year One. Had it expertly installed, am
100% impressed on how it came out. Its in a 70\442. Just my .02 cents


Peter Landowski wrote:

> Sorry to beat a dead horse but I must ask this question because I am
> looking to replace my interioir in my 72 442.
>
> Which company should I go with?
>
> Brothers
> Tamraz
> Parts Place
> Fusick
> Year One
>
> I am looking for quality products such as skins, conv't top, rubber......
> I don't want crap and don't want ot get ripped off. I don't want to learn
> the hard way so  by asking members on this list about experiences they had
> I can make my choice.....
>
> Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:24:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Wong <brougham@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: 425 big boy

> Went yarding yesterday. Saw a 425 in a '78 Caddy. Isn't that one of ours?

This 425 is most likely a Cadillac engine (1977-79), a descendant of the
earlier 472/500s.  Note the centrally located A6 A/C compressor,
thermostat housing on the block, forward mounted distributor, electric
choke, and 3.25" main journals <g>.  Thanks to a very high nickel content
casting, this engine is physically larger than a BB Ch*v, but weighs
within a few pounds of the SB.

Kevin Wong       mailto:brougham@geocities.com       Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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oldsmobile-digest     Monday, September 28 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1512a



Re:everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
'77 Pace Car
Subscribeoldsmobile
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Oil Viscosity
Everyone lists their cars
RE: Everyone lists their cars
Olds info
Re: 1985 442 FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Oil Viscosity
Request
List your cars....
problems again?
Re: Digest #1512
Re: Everyone lists their cars
RE: List Cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
another fan question
Re: Everyone lists their cars
425 in a Cadddy? was: 425 big boy
what color??
TEST MESSAGE - SYS ADMIN
"The Simpsons" pick a good target
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Omega Help
Re: Hail Storm
Everyone lists their cars
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Everyone lists their cars
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ADMIN: Digest 1512
Re: 1970 Cutlass "S" Convertable
Re: Request
UNBOUNCE: Looking for 1940 Olds Info
Re: Omega Help
Re: '77 Pace Car
Re: Olds info
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
RE: Tamraz, was:Beating a dead horse..
Great Car Search Site
Re: Oil Viscosity
Exhaust on H/O 1983-84
Re: Image Archive
Re: g*d* starter!
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: g*d* starter!
Re: g*d* starter!
Re: Omega Help
Re: "The Simpsons" pick a good target
Re: Big Mac, Sorry Greg, non OLDS
Re: 425 in a Cadddy? was: 425 big boy
67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool
Re: Car Value
I have the slowest 442 in history!!!!!!!!HELP!
Re: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool
Re: g*d* starter!
Re: I have the slowest 442 in history!!!!!!!!HELP!
Re: Exhaust on H/O 1983-84
Re: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool
Re: Shade Tree Cutlass
Re: Omega Help
Re: 1970 Cutlass "S" Convertable
Re: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool
'87 Olds Stock Engine
Re: Omega Help
cam info
Re: 1 of 78??!!
Re: '87 Olds Stock Engine
Re: Big Mac, Sorry Greg, non OLDS
Re: ??????????????????????????????????????
Re: cam info
More Omega Help!?!?
Re: cam info
Re: Everyone lists their cars
Re: Speakers in a 67 Toro
Jerry C's short list was: Everyone, Everything, the Spanish Inquisition
Re: '87 Olds Stock Engine
Re: List Cars
ADMIN: One More Time re. HTML
Re: Oil Viscosity
Re: '87 Olds Stock Engine
Re: I have the slowest 442 in history!!!!!!!!HELP!

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:43:53 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re:everyone lists their cars

ok ok
1970   442 completly stock and restored
1965 Fo*d Moostang being restored and sooped up
1990 Maz*a PU daily driver
1998 Hon*a  996 SuperHawk motorcycle
Babyboo

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:51:02 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Whoa list, new alero owners. Whooo eeee!

Jim & Joanne Chermack wrote:

> OK all.  Here's a list of mine:
>
> 67 442 W-30 Track Pac 4 spd (Antique Pewter)
> 66 442 W-30 Track Pac 4spd (Black)
> 66 442 L-69 Tri-Carb 4 spd (Tropic Turquoise)
> 66 442 Race Car (Resale Red)
> 98 Intrigue (Silver)
> 99 Alero (Blue)
>
> Jim Chermack

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:09:03 -0700
From: babyboo@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Hey  Charley, it's no wonder why they call you "The Olds Magnet".
You make me proud to be an Olds owner.{ Insert teardrops here.}

Oldsmagnet wrote:

> Sorry Greg...  I'm sure you cringe every time ~this~ subject comes up...
Seems > like every couple months someone asks that question, and the list is
flooded... > ~BUT~, at least, it ~is~ Olds related, and is clean and flameless
(mostly.... > with the possible exception of people listing their che*ies...  I
let that > slide...  Unless they list the inferiors ~first~!)  Anyway, since
some ~are~ > keeping score, here's my bandwidth beating for the weekend: > >
Hafta think about this for a while... Lesssseee here...  OK, newest to Oldsest 
>
;) > > 83 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, 3.8L, T-tops, the "Teaser" "TEZR OFF"
-black > 82 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, 260, clean, needs engine, 92K -
blue/silver > 82 Olds Cutlass Supreme, No engine/tranny, parts car - light
jadestone > 81 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, no E/T, parts, stripped, 
burgundy >
81 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham, no E/T, parts, white, mostly intact > 81 Olds
Cutlass Supreme, "The Rockit" Big block, soon to be 455 again... >         All
toys, see web page for more info.  Dk/lt Jadestone, "ROCKIT 1" > 77 Olds
Toronado, 403, loaded, complete, driver. blue > 73 Olds Toronado.  Complete,
parts (someday) miced bad.  Yellow > 73 Olds Toronado, no doghouse, donor block
for the Rockit.  White.  Parts. > 70 Olds Delta 88, parts, stripped, 
green/gold >
69 Olds Ninety Eight, parts, totalled, no E/T gold > 68 Olds Delta 88, Possible
parts, no E/T gold > 67 Olds Ninety Eight convertible.  One of not many...  No
E/T.  Project, yellow > 67 Olds Toronado, No engine, loaded, "FAST FWD"
(almost!) gold > 66 Olds Toronado, No engine.  Parts green > > 83 Buick Turbo
Regal, GN lookalike.  No tranny/carb.  black, project, >         "TRBO LVR"
someday... > 78 Buick Century wagon - no E/T, parts, stirpped > 71 Buick
Skylark, 2 dr htp, parts car, 350, stripped - blue > 70 Buick Skylark, 2 dr 
htp.
parts car, complete - green > 70 Buick GS 455, white, black stripes, "BT UR 4D"
-driver > 57 Buick Special, 4dr htp, future project, needs work!!! Blue/white 
> >
82 f*rd EXP - Red, stripped > 82 f*rd EXP - white, complete > 57 f*rd Fairlane 
-
2dr post, no E/T > > '97 Circle D 18' dovetail car trailer (since we're 
getting
it ~all~ out here! :) > '97 Rock Runner/Car Crusher II (R/C!!! :) > > Oh, and
~had~ 82 Firebird, 84 Gran Prix, and 82 Mazda 626... > > Hmm...   ~Must~ be 
most
of 'em...  Probably forgetting one or two..... > Looking at picking up an early
80s Buick, haven't seen it yet. > Also been working towards an 84 Cutlass,
307/T-tops.  Been planning to grab it > all summer, haven't come up with the
$$$.  Come winter, it might be tough... > > You can see more of most of these 
on
my web page below > -- > Oldsmagnet - Charley Buehner @ Sidney Montana |\
|-------| > mailto:buehner@lyrea.com To mail direct to me |/\|=|  |   |   | >
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:02:04 -0700
From: "Mike Jones" <mike@gleep.com>
Subject: '77 Pace Car

Would like Info on the '77 Delta 88 Pace car please, any info would do,
seems like I'm just turning up dead ends in search engines.

Would especially like to know drivetrain appointments.

Mike Jones
'78 Delta 88

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:07:19 EDT
From: HCoons2818@aol.com
Subject: Subscribeoldsmobile

HCoons2818@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:15:54 -0500
From: Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

1980 Turbo Trans AM, Pontiac 400  (The fun car, was my Domino's driver!)
1985 Cutlass Supreme, Rocket 350 Power, CCC controlled.... (My daily
driver)
1991 Bonneville LE 3800 (the wife's daily driver)

I am looking for a 1976 98 Regency, need a nice family car for trips,
safer than nearly anything else out there, and enough room to take
EVERYTHING the wife wants on a trip.....And my stuff!
My goal is to rebuild the 98, THM700 R4 or THM200 4R, 3.23 gears,
Anti-Spin, 455, dual exhaust.  Should be a start for 22 mpg goal for
highway....And still tow 7000 lbs!

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:50:45 -0500
From: Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Oil Viscosity

According to the 1985 Service Manual (Olds, of course!)

5W30 is for 60 degrees F and COLDER
10W30 is for all ranges above I think 0 degrees F
30W is for 30 degrees F(0C) and warmer

10W40 was determined to cause too many warranty service problems with
ring deposits.  To make a 10W perform as a 40W, it has more VII,
Viscosity Index Improvers, which to make a quart of oil with higher
performance, there is less real oil, therefore less to protect your
engine.  Additives DO NOT protect, they simply help the oil protect
better, but there is less oil available and more additives.

I do believe IF mileage NOT taken into account, GM would much rather
have you running 30W in the summertime, and 10W30 in the cold, else,
nothing.  With straight 30, there is less additives than just about
anything.  My Turbo Trans AM mandated 30W in all temps over 30, and only
when the temp was to be below 30 for extended time switch to 10W30.
5W30 was not recommended under ANY circumstances.  Only 2 oils were
approved.  This is for 1980/81.  There was a separate owners manual for
the turbocharged engine.

In 1985, 10W30 is the recommended oil for all driving ranges.  5W30 is
asking for trouble, it mentions NOT FOR EXTENDED HIGHWAY USE somewhere
also.  A friend of mine got to junk his Esc@rt after pulling a trailer
from St. Louis to Alabama in summer heat.  The book told him 5W30, he
used it, and it cost him.  But, hey, it was a good thing, one less
Esc@rt on the roads!!

I run 0W30 Synthetic, but I would never dream of using even 5W30
petroleum in anything I own.  Heck, I won't run petroleum oil in
anything I own!  My lawn mower even has 0W30 synthetic!!

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:18:17 EDT
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: Everyone lists their cars

Chris Sommerville
69 442 SC
70 442HC
70 W31
96 Grand Prix
98 Ford F150

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:20:39 -0500
From: "Johnson, Sam" <SAJOHNSON@usds.com>
Subject: RE: Everyone lists their cars

1971 Olds Cutlass S
1994 Ford Escort LX
1995 Ford Thunderbird

======================
Sam E. Johnson, JR.
>  <mailto:Cutlass403@ameritech.net> Cutlass403@ameritech.net
>1971 Cutlass S 455
>Westside! Chitown IL
21 Wins 13 Losses 1Tie
======================

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:32:10 EDT
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: Olds info

Found a great site for prod info and vehicle ident numbers.
Http://www.442.com/tech.html

Ron Haun
71 442 W30
Orchard Park, NY

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:47:17 -0400
From: "FRANK MONTERO" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Re: 1985 442 FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- -----Original Message-----
From: JJP442@aol.com <JJP442@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: 1985 442 FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Didn't you get the posting about location of the "for sale " item?
>John, Queens N.Y.
>JJP442@aol.com
>

LOCATION IS AROUND EXIT 53 OFF LONG ISLAND EXPRESSWAY!!!!!!!!

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:01:48 -0400
From: Denney Keys <denney.j.keys.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

My List:

1966 Cutlass Convertible
1971 Cutlass Supreme SX
1973 Cutlass S 442
1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
1966 Corvette Coupe
1994 Corvette Convertible
1991 Ford Exploder (the winter beater)

Denney Keys

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:22:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: hitson@i1.net (roger hitson)
Subject: Re: Oil Viscosity

>GM has flip-flopped on this issue through the years.
>10W-40
>then 10W-40 was EVIL and would void the warrenty
>10W-30 was then best,
>and I guess with your car SAE 30 was "The oil"
>
Lotsa new GM's now recommend 5W30. Go figger.

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:34:16 EDT
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: Request

To my Oldsmobile friends, on Sept. 16TH, 1985 my son Wayne
was killed by John Justice trying to commit sucide by ramming
his car at over 100 miles per hour into the rear of my son's
car, a 1965 Mustang, waiting at a stop light. He had just
stabbed his family to death, his mother, father and brother.
After he has served on 13-1/2 years of his sentence he wants to get an early
parole. I'm asking you to write to the parole board
telling them he should not get paroled and to serve his FULL sentence behind
bars and not get paroled.
The address to wrtite to is:
New York State Division of Parole
97 Central Avenue
Albany, New York 12206
In the letter ref the following: Din#87B0385, NYSID#5517594H

Thank you
Ron Haun (rghaun@aol.com)
Orchard Park, NY
71 442 W30

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:12:58 -0600
From: Arnold Alvin TSgt <ARNOLDA@SCHRIEVER.af.mil>
Subject: List your cars....

  I'm the resident '84 Buick Grand National owner...  love all cars.  Still
looking for a Lightning Rod Shifter to fit my 200 R4 trans... one of you
guys out there has one... now give it up!!!!

Louie Arnold
'84 GN
http://www.inergy.com/iraceit

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:29:23 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: problems again?

hello? (blow, blow) Is this thing on? What's the deal? Where's the mail?
- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:43:17 -0700
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: Re: Digest #1512

What's up with the digest?  I didn't get number 1512, all I got was the
following (from "oldsmobile-digest-owner ??".  Could anyone forward
#1512 to me?

Thanks.

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

oldsmobile-digest-owner@chebucto.ns.ca wrote:

> End of oldsmobile-digest V1 #1512*********************************

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:19:39 -0400
From: tchurchill@draper.com (Timothy A. Churchill)
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Tim Churchill        OCA #30327           Framingham, MA
- ------------------------------------------------------------
'67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible, a.k.a. 'Big Red'
'89 Cadillac Fleetwood
'98 Passat GLS Wagon -- I told y'all that the Mazda was the next car
                        to be replaced! :)

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:11:09 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: List Cars

Guess, I'll post just to complete this item.

66 98 Convert (The Red Car)
66 Starfire (No name yet, currently referred to as the "rebound" car)

cf

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:26:51 -0400
From: John Burris <jburris1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

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87 Cutlass Supreme Brogham (oh boy do I wish I could find another one of
these babies!)
90 Ford Taurus (soon to be pawned off on some poor unsuspecting soul)
69 Fiat 124 Sedan (with original vinyl roof - and shifter that flies out
of the gearbox when you shift into 3rd)
83 Honda Accord Electric 144V (85% complete conversion - just got to get
the insurance issues worked out)
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:32:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: hitson@i1.net (roger hitson)
Subject: another fan question

Are" torque limiting " fans another name for the kind of fan clutch that
engages/disengages at certain RPM's?

roger hitson

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:38:24 -0400
From: "George & Joan C. Lesperance" <gal1@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Hi Guys:  We have a couple too!!!!
                         1969 442 W-30 Sports Coupe   Automatic, column
                         1969  F-85                                 Air
                         1989 Suburban
                                        O.K. buy for now Joan

S-MAN wrote:

> Here they are:
>        1982 G-body Cutlass Wagon
>        1984 Cutlass Brougham
>        1985 Cutlass "Topless"
>
> ==
> John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
> TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
> 1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
> http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
> Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
> -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:01:53 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: 425 in a Cadddy? was: 425 big boy

In a message dated 98-09-27 20:11:43 EDT, you write:

<< Went yarding yesterday. Saw a 425 in a '78 Caddy. Isn't that one of ours?
>>

It had Olds markings?
I would assume that you ID'ed it right.

Dint know you could mount Olds BB in caddys.
Dint the caddies stock a 440 at one time.....

Hmmmmmmm  :)

SOM
&KA

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:05:07 EDT
From: RICH6986@aol.com
Subject: what color??

My 82 cutlass supreme has a that little vinal top on the end of the roof and
between the vinal and the rest of the roof theres this little trim that goes
around it both the trim and the vinal are a dark blue color and I have look in
a number of places to try to find the right  color   heres the question does
anyone know what the # color it is the closest i came is gm 290 midnight blue
but it still doesnt really look same anybody have any ideas   TIA      
Rich			
82 cutlass supreme
85 cutlass supreme (soon to be parts car) :(

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:20:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: David Potter <potter@csuite.ns.ca>
Subject: TEST MESSAGE - SYS ADMIN

TESTING

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:19:36 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: "The Simpsons" pick a good target

Last night's episode of The Simpsons had a scene where Nelson
Muntz takes his air rifle into his backyard for a little target
practice on an old car they've got up on blocks. Turns out that
it's a Z-28, a 1970 1/2 or 1971 vintage (the year with the open
grille and little corner bumperettes on the front). Thought the
Olds list would enjoy that little detail.  :-)

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:50:22 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Here's mine:

75 Delta 88 conv
56 Mercedez-benz 190SL
58 Corvette
49 MGYT
99 Explorer (sorry, the wife, you know)
Bruce

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:49:43 PDT
From: "Avery Plank" <oldsomega73@hotmail.com>
Subject: Omega Help

Well I'm new to the mailing list and just found a 73 Omega for sale in
Chicago (I'm in Houston) It's at a dealership and they are asking $995
for it, and I went ahead and put down $200 for them to hold the car.  I
am going to have a friend look at it for me, but is there anything I
should tell him to look for specifically? The car has a 350, auto,
working a/c, ps, pb.... it's gold with a brown top, and comes complete
with 81k miles.  I think it has some rust, seeing as it is from Chicago.
I've never had to deal with this problem and don't know if it would be
worth repairing this car. I love the way these cars look, but I'm not
sure if I'm getting a good deal or not.  Any help would be appreciated.

Avery Plank

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:01:46 EDT
From: Supafli50@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hail Storm

I know what you mean.  We had a hail storm in Duluth, Mn and everyones cars
and houses recieved major damage.  I hid my Olds under a gas station canopy
and missed most of it.  Hail started small and grew up to tennis ball size.
This would have been murder to my new paint job.
Matt
88 Olds Cutlass Supreme IE

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:13:23 -0400
From: "Mark Cornea (R)" <mcornea@ford.com>
Subject: Everyone lists their cars

Here's mine:
		1970 W30 4 speed  (#75 matador red)
		1996 F250 crew cab Diesel  (red)
		1997 Expedition  (white)

       ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
          Mark Cornea (Dr Decal) `70 W30 stick ~ Red (of course)

                              <mailto:drdecal442@aol.com>
                              <mailto:mcornea@ford.com>

                         Visit <http://www.drdecal.com>

            OCA# 4903
       	    OPC# 14
       ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:21:01 EDT
From: AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Everyone lists their cars

74 442 W/455
72 442 CONV W/ TPI CHEVY,PAXTON,NOS.
90 S10 BLAZER
93 SUZUKI KATANA

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:34:17 -0400
From: "Worthington, David L" <david_worthington@reyrey.com>
Subject: Everyone lists their cars

66 cutlass ragtop
66 cutlass hardtop parts car
69 442
78 cutlass (no eng/trans) soon to be bracket car
82 cutlass 350/350/2.41 (ex diesel) 304,000 miles - daily driver
83 cutlass V6 (crap) no car should ever leave the factory painted brown
84 H/O (need drivers side spoiler tip)
87 cutlass salon 307-y/200-4r/2.56 gear (bad fuel economy rolling roadblock)
85 Blazer
87 LeSabre
16' triaxle trailer

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:42:09 -0400
From: Jim Olson <jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Can we please stop listing our cars now? I'm getting tired of deleting
dozens of messages with people's cars only listed...

Jim...

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:37:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Digest 1512

It appears that Chebucto had a problem last night and digest #1512
contains nothing. It was in parallel with another problem though, and Olds
mail was held up most of last night and today. I suspect that most of what
would have been in #1512 will appear in the next edition. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:41:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: 1970 Cutlass "S" Convertable

Logically, if there was a '70 "S" convertible it would have different
quarter panels without the kickup at the top of the rear fenders near the
c-pillar. Instead it would have the "swoops" that the fastback body style
had above the rear wheels. Maybe someone welded a pair of fastback
quarters on to it?

BTW, the '69-'72 GP had a 118" wheelbase, not the 4-door 116" one... dunno
about the Monte Carlo.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:42:54 EDT
From: WOODY3781@aol.com
Subject: Re: Request

If we never write another letter we need to write this one. I walk down this
same road
and it will always be there. Condolences to the Haun clan, I know it only
seems like yesterday...

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:44:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Looking for 1940 Olds Info

Not on the list, respond to pettitt@juno.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: literature
From:	pettitt@juno.com

i am not sure as to the information i received regarding this website,
but i have a 1940  model 60, olds coupe.  i have a need for literature or
links as to where i might get a manual or anyother literature for this
car.  i'm having problems getting brake shoes and other misc. parts.  i
would be interested to know if you can help.  thank you
joyce pettitt

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:51:01 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Omega Help

> Well I'm new to the mailing list and just found a 73 Omega for sale
> in Chicago (I'm in Houston) It's at a dealership and they are asking
> $995 for it, and I went ahead and put down $200 for them to hold the
> car.

"Hold" the car? I'd say you just about bought it.  :-)  With all due
respect to the Olds name, this is basically a Chevy Nova, and in the
Chicago area you don't usually find mint ones of that age. Hopefully
this car spent most of its life under cover or in a different part
of the country. I've lived here in Chicago since that car was new,
and I'm feeling a bit rusty myself.

Which dealer is this, anyway? Got an address? I'd be pessimistic on
this one; it'd have to be really impressive to justify its price and
the cost of getting it all the way down to Houston.

- -- Andy
>


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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:52:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: '77 Pace Car

On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Mike Jones wrote:
> Would like Info on the '77 Delta 88 Pace car please, any info would do,
> seems like I'm just turning up dead ends in search engines.
> Would especially like to know drivetrain appointments.

I believe these were all 403s with automatics, I assume TH-350s. They were
neat-looking cars, I saw a couple at Lansing last year. A very red
bucket-seat interior with console jumped out at you. I found one or two
for sale on the net over the last year, in fact it seems a few were in JWO
the last few months. I would love to have one.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:55:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Olds info

> Found a great site for prod info and vehicle ident numbers.
> Http://www.442.com/tech.html

Uhhh, yeah... this is the web site maintained by Bryceman who was one of
the early members of our list (and is still here), and contains a lot of
info contributed by members of this mail list. Not meant as a put-down,
just thought it worth pointing out that a lot of the stuff you see there
had its start here.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:57:07 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@efortress.com>
Subject: Re: Disc Brake Conversion

> Why is it necessary to change the brackets when
>converting?  And, why did GM have two different brackets to begin with?
>They hardly look any different and it looks as though I could have used
>the old bracket with the disc parts.  Or do the hoses have different
>ends on them (on the bracket end)?  Guess I should check that out next
>weekend.  Anyway, I'm putting them on 'cause I have 'em and I figure
>there must be a reason.
>
Some hoses (i think 72) woundn't fit.
The disk brake hoses I got would fit the drum brackets, BUT
they would fit in several ways unlike the disk brackets that i did end up
using.
If you are going to use the drum hose brakets, for safteys sake mount the
hoses
to the caliper first, them the braket. this way you will be sure not to
have twisted
hoses.

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:08:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: hitson@i1.net (roger hitson)
Subject: RE: Tamraz, was:Beating a dead horse..

>Where can Tamarz parts be reched???? On the net???
>
Telephone 800 442 4601

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:59:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Great Car Search Site

I think I originally leaned about this here, but it's worth repeating; if
you are looking to buy a used car, check out:
http://www.traderonline.com

It's the web page of the Auto Trader magazine people and you can search
the entire US for cars. They have nearly 500,000 cars listed right now,
and it's fun to put in some pretty rare criteria (i.e. 1971 SX
convertible) and see what comes up.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:11:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: hitson@i1.net (roger hitson)
Subject: Re: Oil Viscosity

>According to the 1985 Service Manual (Olds, of course!)
>
>5W30 is for 60 degrees F and COLDER
>10W30 is for all ranges above I think 0 degrees F
>30W is for 30 degrees F(0C) and warmer
>
Key words: 1985 service manual

I can tell you with great confidence that several (not all) '88 & newer GM
products recommend 5W30 right on the filler cap

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:03:24
From: <crl6420@online.no>
Subject: Exhaust on H/O 1983-84

Hello, can someone tell me more about the exhaust
pipes on the H/O.
are there two pipes all the way back with a muffer
for each, or two pipes into one muffer with two
outletts ?

Also...
i understand that the shift points, at WOT are:
1-2 5200, 2-D 4900, D-OD 4400.
whats you speed at these shift points ?

Thanks for your time.

Chris RL, No

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:11:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: dsenko@UU.NET (Drew Senko)
Subject: Re: Image Archive

> I am interested in setting an Olds Image archive that would show fine
> examples of the various models and options of each year(65-72).  If anyone
>
> Corey Day
> dayc@ix.netcom.com


Corey,

There is already a fine image archive on Bryceman's page at
www.442.com.  I suggest that rather than try to create your own, why
not just link to this site?  He's already got the archive and he's got
the easy-to-remember URL (www.442.com).

- --
Drew Senko
http://members.aol.com/drewinva

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:13:25 EDT
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: Re: g*d* starter!

try using a remote starter solenoid.  like a f*rd type.  summit sells the kit
for around $20.

mikeytvb@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 98 15:09:20 -0500
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

Mine:
1987 442 W-42 (weekend cruiser)
1994 Eighty Eight LSS (daily driver)
Wife's:
1996 Grand Caravan (redesigned Silohuette hadn't come out yet :(

 -----  Brad Nicholson (OCA's WebGuy)
|  |  | OCA# 18984
|  |  | 1987 442 W-42
|  |  | 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
|  |  | President, Oldsmobile Centennial Club (Maryland Chapter of OCA)
|  |  | Oldsmobile Centennial Club Web Site: http://www.erols.com/brad442/occ
| /|\ | H: brad442@erols.com
|/ | \| W: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
|  |  | OCA: WebGuy@oldsclub.org
 -----  Oldsmobile Club of America Web Site: http://www.oldsclub.org

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:46:02 -0700
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:33:21 EDT
From: StafRT007@aol.com
Subject: Re: g*d* starter!

The reason for this is, as you thought, due to engine heat.  I have been
dealing with this for the past year and now I finally have a set up that
works.  First of all, if your car runs hot then go to the junkyard and get a 4
core radiator (doesn't have to be out of a Cutlass, mines out of a hearse!)
Wrap the starter in header wrap (heat shields might work, but I'd do this
along with it) and install a ford solenoid.  Your car will run cool, start
even when heat soaked and go though fewer starters.  Hope this helped.

Ryan

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:40:10 EDT
From: StafRT007@aol.com
Subject: Re: g*d* starter!

oh I forgot to tell you, don't bother buying Summit's so-called "aftermarket"
remote solenoid, all it is is a regular ford solenoid with their label on (and
an expensive price tag)  Just go to the part store and ask for an early ford
solenoid (ford only makes two kinds, early and late).  Good luck.

Ryan

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:08:45 PDT
From: "Olds Omega" <oldsomega73@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Omega Help

The Name of the dealer is Granger Oldsmobile... Anyway, I know that a
Omega is VERY similar to the Nova, as well as the Buick Apollo, Pontiac
Ventura... they are GM cousins. Same with the Cutlass, Skylarks, and
Chevelle's were. (Not to mention the first letters spell NOVA,
NovaApolloVenturaOmega)  Anyway, I really like the way these cars look.
Only thing I'm wondering now is if I NEED new body panels will Nova
panels work?  Anybody know?



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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:25:24 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: "The Simpsons" pick a good target

Andrew C. Green wrote:
>
> Last night's episode of The Simpsons had a scene where Nelson
> Muntz takes his air rifle into his backyard for a little target
> practice on an old car they've got up on blocks. Turns out that
> it's a Z-28, a 1970 1/2 or 1971 vintage (the year with the open
> grille and little corner bumperettes on the front). Thought the
> Olds list would enjoy that little detail.  :-)
>
> -- Andy
>
> ______________________________________________________
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Yeah, that was cool!! I thought it looked familiar from the back, then I
saw the characteristic front and saw Z28 on the grille. Bout LMAO!!!!

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mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
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1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:19:27 EDT
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Big Mac, Sorry Greg, non OLDS

In a message dated 9/28/98 1:38:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lbiggs@intertek.net writes:

<<  Hope Chi gets in the playoffs. Find out tomorrow.
 Lou Biggs >>No one will beat the YANKEES !!!!!!

Bernie    Congrats to BIG MAC !!!!

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:12:38 -0400
From: "VBDeveloper" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 425 in a Cadddy? was: 425 big boy

How do you ID an engine from markings? All I can find on mine is a serial
number on the oil filler pipe. I have a service manual, but the only thing
in there is a Serial number and Code locations. Code sticker(!) is missing
form my oil filler pipe.The car is a '69 Ninety-Eight. Thanks.

- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 425 in a Cadddy? was: 425 big boy
> Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 01:01 PM
>
> In a message dated 98-09-27 20:11:43 EDT, you write:
>
> << Went yarding yesterday. Saw a 425 in a '78 Caddy. Isn't that one of
ours?
> >>
>
> It had Olds markings?
> I would assume that you ID'ed it right.
>
> Dint know you could mount Olds BB in caddys.
> Dint the caddies stock a 440 at one time.....
>
> Hmmmmmmm  :)
>
> SOM
> &KA

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:27:36 EDT
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool

Im looking for the tool that removes the front coil springs. Any good
sources??

Bernie

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:39:02 EDT
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: Re: Car Value

Check out "OLD CARS PRICE GUIDE" at any book store.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:41:12 EDT
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: I have the slowest 442 in history!!!!!!!!HELP!

I just recently installed these things into my '65....Edelbrock Performer RPM
intake and Cam/Lifter kit, Edelbrock Performer Carburetor, Mallory Unilite
Distributor, MSD Blaster2 coil, Accel 8.8 wires, new AC 46s plugs(gapped at
.35...I think), I still have the original "Jet-Away" with it's "infamous"
converter, and the rear gears are supposed to be 3.23:1. My 60' time was
2.87!!!!!!!, and my eighth mile was 11.27!!!!!!!! My boss was there with his
Geo Storm and he ran a 10.15!!!!!!! I can not even break the tires loose on a
slick surface!!!!!!! I NEVER had to change out of 1st gear...LOL...could it be
that rear gears were changed during it's lifetime? My cruise speed at 70mph is
2700rpm.I was gaining on my bosses Geo, but he had me by 2 car lenghths or
better when we hit the end of the 8th. I have a friend at work who is willing
to give me a BOP TH-350 and converter...is this a suitable swap?...should I
run some "real" gears in the back?...this isn't a daily driver....and Im so
ammbarrased, that Im considering going to the Dealer and buying a
Z-28/SS!!!!!!!  HELP!!!!!!!!!

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:42:53 EDT
From: RICH6986@aol.com
Subject: Re: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool

i  tried using an external and an internal spring compressor and for the front
it was much easier to use an internal  they have them at most of the auto
parts places that i go to i think they also have them online at jcwhitney and
summit and probably a bunch of other places      Hope this helps   Rich
82,85 cutlass supreme

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:47:06 EDT
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: Re: g*d* starter!

Had a hi-torque starter built for my 442, have headers so bought a solenoid
shield from Year One, did the trick, starts fine now.

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:49:48 EDT
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: Re: I have the slowest 442 in history!!!!!!!!HELP!

First, gears get you down the road.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:50:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Nathyn M. Knipe" <nmknipe@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Exhaust on H/O 1983-84

the exhaust on the H/O and/or 442's run into a single cat and then split
into two pipes the rest of the way back......Nathyn

On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 crl6420@online.no wrote:

> Hello, can someone tell me more about the exhaust
> pipes on the H/O.
> are there two pipes all the way back with a muffer
> for each, or two pipes into one muffer with two
> outletts ?
>
> Also...
> i understand that the shift points, at WOT are:
> 1-2 5200, 2-D 4900, D-OD 4400.
> whats you speed at these shift points ?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Chris RL, No
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:51:02 EDT
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: Re: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool

Probable rent them at a NAPA or use them free when you buy new springs at PEP
BOYS auto parts.

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:57:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Nathyn M. Knipe" <nmknipe@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Shade Tree Cutlass

i am not sure if what you guys are talking about is the window
motor.....but if it is..perhaps this will help.....i too have a
temperamental window motor in my 83 cutlass...it really likes to go
down...but doesn't like to go up...so i decided to rip it out...you take
the door panels off obviously....then once you look at the motor you will
see there is no way to reach the bolts you need to get too to pull the
motor....so if you look on the metal around the motor...you will see some
indents....about where the bolts you need to get too are....i drilled
these out...and that gave me access to my motor...(at least I had
indents...others might have the holes already there....) when you pull the
motor...have someone hold the window so you don't break it...Nathyn

On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Jeff Herndon wrote:

> Just a thought...a copy can be ordered by calling 1-800-682-TREE. You
> need the episode number they give at the end of the show. If you are
> really interested, maybe someone on the list taped it today and can
> provide that number, or can make a copy (that would be a lot cheaper).
>
> Jeff Herndon
>
> 86 CS 307Y
>
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:01:31 -0400
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Omega Help

Olds Omega wrote:

> Anyway, I really like the way these cars look.
> Only thing I'm wondering now is if I NEED new body panels will Nova
> panels work?  Anybody know?

        Back when I was still a Chevy guy, I had a '71 Nova.  Anyway, I'm
gonna go out on a limb and say that most panels from Novas, Venturas,
Omegas, and Apollos of the same year will interchange.  Some exceptions
will be the front fascia and grilles.  As a matter of fact, I once replaced
the windshield on my Nova with one from a Pontiac Ventura.

        Hope this helps,

        Thomas P. Smith
        1971 Cutlass S 350

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:22:33 EDT
From: Cutw29@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1970 Cutlass "S" Convertable

The ad that I saw read that this car was 1 of 1 and that it was sold to a
private owner for an "undisclosed amount".  How hard would it be to take a
regular 1970 Cutlass "S" and turn it into a convertable?  I think that it
would be pretty tough.  I really didn't believe that this car was made but I
just wanted to see if any of you guys had either seen or heard of it.  Has
anybody made a convertable out of a 70-72 Cutlass "S" or seen one that has
been made?

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:47:34 -0400
From: "Dan" <dsm137@gti.net>
Subject: Re: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool

Usually any catalog has spring compressors. Even Whitneys has 'em! Sears too
all the places ya can think of.
Dan.
'67 yellow convertible
dsm137@gti.net

- -----Original Message-----
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com <RCKTPWR@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 4:37 PM
Subject: 67 A-body and/or 81-88 G-body coil spring remove tool


>Im looking for the tool that removes the front coil springs. Any good
>sources??
>
>Bernie
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 08:33:21 -0500
From: David Harms <dph0569@flash.net>
Subject: '87 Olds Stock Engine

Hi, i recently bought an '87 olds 2 door cutlass salon, and am having some
trouble determining the engine that is in it.

I've talked to some people on the internet and we all THINK it is a 307, i
know for sure that it is 5.0L v8.  The thing is something weird happened, i
wanted to buy an aluminum Intake Manifold for it, but edelbrocks (#3711)
are listed for '85 & earlier, so i called up summit to see if they could
give me a reason why it wouldn't fit a '87 307, they told me it was because
olds switched to center bolt valve covers that year so it wouldn't fit, i
went out side to check my engine, and welp No center bolts =], and some
guys on the internet agreed, they had never seen and olds with center
bolts, just SBC's.  So my question remains, do i in fact have a Olds 307,
and if so who makes performance parts that will fit that year?

O yeah the 8th digit of my vin number is a Y in case it helps

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

	-Thanks
	-David

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:44:55 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Omega Help

> Anyway, I really like the way these cars look.
> Only thing I'm wondering now is if I NEED new body panels
> will Nova panels work?  Anybody know?

It depends on _which_ panels and what year. Using your '73 as an
example, my Hollander book here lists the front fenders for '73 and
'74 as interchanging with Buick Apollo and Pontiac Ventura II, but
specifically _not_ with Nova. The hood for your '73 (and '74) will
not interchange with _anything_, so try not to bend it.  :-)

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:52:26 EDT
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: cam info

does anyone have anything to say about a comp cams 280h cam?  what kind of
powerband does it have in a sbo?    is it a good cam or is the performer rpm
better?

mikeytvb@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:58:54 -0400
From: "VBDeveloper" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 1 of 78??!!

Where did you get production figures?? I am looking for numbers for '69
Ninety-Eight Convertible

- ----------
> From: RGHaun@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: 1 of 78??!!
> Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:04 AM
>
> Dont't know where he got that 78 number, prod figures for
> 71 442 Convert. is 1304, I have a W30, tried everywhere including
> Helen Early but no one has prod fig. for W30 71 442 convets made.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:55:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Nathyn M. Knipe" <nmknipe@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: '87 Olds Stock Engine

it sounds like they are confusing the olds 5.0 with the chevy
5.0...somewhere around that year the chevy 5.0 (305) changed bolt pattern
and such....I think!   Nathyn

On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, David Harms wrote:

> Hi, i recently bought an '87 olds 2 door cutlass salon, and am having some
> trouble determining the engine that is in it.
>
> I've talked to some people on the internet and we all THINK it is a 307, i
> know for sure that it is 5.0L v8.  The thing is something weird happened, i
> wanted to buy an aluminum Intake Manifold for it, but edelbrocks (#3711)
> are listed for '85 & earlier, so i called up summit to see if they could
> give me a reason why it wouldn't fit a '87 307, they told me it was because
> olds switched to center bolt valve covers that year so it wouldn't fit, i
> went out side to check my engine, and welp No center bolts =], and some
> guys on the internet agreed, they had never seen and olds with center
> bolts, just SBC's.  So my question remains, do i in fact have a Olds 307,
> and if so who makes performance parts that will fit that year?
>
> O yeah the 8th digit of my vin number is a Y in case it helps
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 	-Thanks
> 	-David
>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:01:08 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Big Mac, Sorry Greg, non OLDS

I could have nuked ESPN Sunday for the continual interruption of the
Martinsville NASCAR race with all that crap.  If I would have wanted to watch
stickball, I would have tuned in stickball.

What Ricky Rudd did yesterday in that race was truly heroic -- not only did he
last 500 laps in one of the toughest races on the schedule in 100+ degree heat
with his suit and helmet cooling system broken, he won, and that makes 16
years in a row that he has won at least one race -- a streak that began before
either one of them was playing their game.

It also sickened me to hear some local game puke (sportscaster) call the
stickball homerun contest a race -- they wouldn't know what a race was if it
hit them in the middle of Turn 3.

Sorry, but the lack of local racing coverage and the disrespect that ESPN gave
the race yesterday really set me off.  Bet they didn't interrupt the game with
the results from Martinsville...........

Take Care,
Ken Snyder

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:56:23 -0700
From: "Tim Wurtz" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: Re: ??????????????????????????????????????

Please don't spam the subject line with a bunch of ??????? marks, Simply
just put your subject in and be curtious others. Thank you
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: Olds List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 10:39 AM
Subject: ??????????????????????????????????????


>Lou Biggs
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:59:37 -0700
From: "Tim Wurtz" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: Re: cam info

You can find the power band of this cam in the spec sheet list, before you
order it. (assuming you have'nt ordered it yet)
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com <Mikeytvb@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 2:55 PM
Subject: cam info


>does anyone have anything to say about a comp cams 280h cam?  what kind of
>powerband does it have in a sbo?    is it a good cam or is the performer
rpm
>better?
>
>mikeytvb@aol.com
>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:06:21 PDT
From: "Olds Omega" <oldsomega73@hotmail.com>
Subject: More Omega Help!?!?

Thanks for the help about the body panels... One other question is the
Omega had those MONSTER 79cc heads, so what do I do about compression?
I know Mondello has 10:1 compression pistons for those heads for that
engine, but I don't know if those heads are good enough to keep...  Of
course with the stock 8:1 compression I could always through on a turbo
and have a BIG Mitsubishi (just kidding).  Also, what are some other
easy ways to give that 350 more boost?!?

Thanks for the help



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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:35:59 -0500
From: Stephen Hoover <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Re: cam info

Mikeytvb@aol.com wrote:
>
> does anyone have anything to say about a comp cams 280h cam?  what kind of
> powerband does it have in a sbo?    is it a good cam or is the performer rpm
> better?
>
> mikeytvb@aol.com


I have the Comp Cams 270H in my '70 350 - good cam, mild rough idle (not
radical, but definetly noticeable) I lost a good deal of low-end, but
the 3.73's and the 2100 stall help considerably. The 280H should be
about the same in a BB. I think the 280H would be too much for any kind
of daily use in a small-block.

Just my $.02

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:14:36 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Everyone lists their cars

To All:
QUIT listing your cars, Greg is going to kill me! I did it once and I
thought I had got away with it. Was interesting however.
Lou Biggs

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:15:06 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Speakers in a 67 Toro

6X9 fits.  Access through upright of rear seat, not trunk.  Two little bolts
are revealed when rear seat bottom is removed.  Back out retaining bolts and
lift rear upright cushion.  All will be made clear to you at this time.
Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Gage <bladernr@roava.net>
To: Oldsmobile <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Cc: Toronado Fans <toro@armchair.mb.ca>
Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 1:48 PM
Subject: Speakers in a 67 Toro


>I was wondering something today...  the Batmobile had the front dash
>speakers...  but it also has the hole and grille for the ceneter mounted
>rear speaker that is in the backrest of the rear seat...  I havent been
>anble to figure out how to get this open to put a speaker in it, and then
>what size speaker will fit?  have you guys had and experience with this??
>
>
>><> ><> ><> ><> ><> 67 Toronado  ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
>
>Jeffrey Lane, EMT-ST                                ICQ#18716911
>                    http://www.roava.net/~bladernr
>    bladernr@roava.net               EMTBoy9@aol.com
>
>Sr. Sergeant, Equipment Officer  | EMT-ST/Driver
>Fort Lewis Rescue Squad, Inc.   | United Ambulance Service
>Salem, Virginia                             | Roanoke, Virginia
>
>"Knowledge is power.  But power corrupts, and corruption is a sin, so if
>you seek knowledge, you will burn in hell. . ."
>
>----------------------------------Carpe
>Noctum------------------------------------
>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:17:49 EDT
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Jerry C's short list was: Everyone, Everything, the Spanish 
Inquisition

In a message dated 98-09-28 13:36:51 EDT, you write:

<< Jerry's Short List...

 87 Cutlass Supreme (F-442)

 Aquiring an 83 Cutlass to make a F-Hurst or an 85 to make another F-442...
 Maybe I oughta just find a REAL 442...  heh heh. >>

NO!

Use your imagination!
Make the 87 a REAL 4 4 2 (well, true to the #s anyway)!
There's plenty of room there for a 400cid, Qjet, and true dualies...

Oh, wait, you cannot put true duals on your car.
Nevermind!

SOM

&KA

(the springs ARE an improvement!)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: '87 Olds Stock Engine

- ---David Harms <dph0569@flash.net> wrote:
>
> Hi, i recently bought an '87 olds 2 door cutlass salon, and am
having some
> trouble determining the engine that is in it.
>
> I've talked to some people on the internet and we all THINK it is a
307, i
> know for sure that it is 5.0L v8.  The thing is something weird
happened, i
> wanted to buy an aluminum Intake Manifold for it, but edelbrocks
(#3711)
> are listed for '85 & earlier, so i called up summit to see if they
could
> give me a reason why it wouldn't fit a '87 307, they told me it was
because
> olds switched to center bolt valve covers that year so it wouldn't
fit, i
> went out side to check my engine, and welp No center bolts =], and
some
> guys on the internet agreed, they had never seen and olds with center
> bolts, just SBC's.  So my question remains, do i in fact have a Olds
307,
> and if so who makes performance parts that will fit that year?
>
> O yeah the 8th digit of my vin number is a Y in case it helps
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 	-Thanks
> 	-David
>
- -------------David,
                 Well your "Y" in the VIN confirms that the car at
least came with the 140 hp 307....It sounds like it is anyways. The
problem lies in these 87 heads have smaller ports than the earlier
years....I have the same problem on my 87 307 HO ,Hope this helps.
                 Sman
==
John McJunkin  mailto:super442@yahoo.com    ICQ # 16956740
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:17:35 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: List Cars

YES!  1966 98 topdropper in (lipstick?) red!  So, there are two.  I call
mine Redzilla.  Great ride.  Peter.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: List Cars


>Guess, I'll post just to complete this item.
>
>66 98 Convert (The Red Car)
>66 Starfire (No name yet, currently referred to as the "rebound" car)
>
>cf

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:21:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: One More Time re. HTML

I think the message I sent last night about this never made it to digest
members, so I'll repeat it. Please folks, check your mail program and turn
off the option that gives HTML code to your messages. We want plain text
here, nothing else. The HTML fills up the digest with junk. Also turn off
options for automatic attachments such as cards or other things of the
sort.

Please check this if you're using mail software from Microsoft or Netscape
in particular. They seem to forget that there is other software in the
world that isn't like theirs. Thanks!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:26:42 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Oil Viscosity

Roger,
No kidding!, I use 5W30 in winter (gets a little cold in St. Lou), and 5W40
in the summer, (also gets very hot in summer), never had an oil related
problem with any of the cars.
Lou Biggs

- ----------
> From: roger hitson <hitson@i1.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Oil Viscosity
> Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 8:22 AM
>
>
> >GM has flip-flopped on this issue through the years.
> >10W-40
> >then 10W-40 was EVIL and would void the warrenty
> >10W-30 was then best,
> >and I guess with your car SAE 30 was "The oil"
> >
> Lotsa new GM's now recommend 5W30. Go figger.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:28:50 -0400
From: Jim Olson <jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: '87 Olds Stock Engine

For what it's worth, when I was trying to figure out what my Olds engine
was, I got the engine code off the block and looked it up on the net. I
did a Yahoo search on the number, and it gave me a site that had all the
engine codes, years, sizes, etc.

Jim...

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:18:53 -0700
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: I have the slowest 442 in history!!!!!!!!HELP!

GT5726@aol.com wrote:

> I just recently installed these things into my '65....Edelbrock Performer RPM
> intake and Cam/Lifter kit, Edelbrock Performer Carburetor, Mallory Unilite
> Distributor, MSD Blaster2 coil, Accel 8.8 wires, new AC 46s plugs(gapped at
> .35...I think), I still have the original "Jet-Away" with it's "infamous"
> converter, and the rear gears are supposed to be 3.23:1. My 60' time was
> 2.87!!!!!!!, and my eighth mile was 11.27!!!!!!!! My boss was there with his
> Geo Storm and he ran a 10.15!!!!!!! I can not even break the tires loose on a
> slick surface!!!!!!! I NEVER had to change out of 1st gear...LOL...could it 
be
> that rear gears were changed during it's lifetime? My cruise speed at 70mph 
is
> 2700rpm.I was gaining on my bosses Geo, but he had me by 2 car lenghths or
> better when we hit the end of the 8th. I have a friend at work who is willing
> to give me a BOP TH-350 and converter...is this a suitable swap?...should I
> run some "real" gears in the back?...this isn't a daily driver....and Im so
> ammbarrased, that Im considering going to the Dealer and buying a
> Z-28/SS!!!!!!!  HELP!!!!!!!!!

GT,
First question.  Did you run the car prior to the modifications?  If so,
how do the new numbers compare?

I'm going to assume your 65 4-4-2 has the original 400.  If so,
when you ordered your camshaft, did they clarify
that this fits the 65 400 only?
1965 400's are the only 400 to use the 45 degree
lifter angle.  If you installed a 66-69 400 cam, these have a 39
deg. angle and will cause a 65 400 to run like a two legged dog.
Next.  Did you check and set the lifter preload?
Excessive preload will also create a poor performer.

Also, what total advance did you set the Uni-Lite at?

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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