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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, October 26 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1572



Re: TH350 replacing a Jetaway
Re: Book
door jamb bolt
Problem with other two barrels resolved.
Re: muffler question
Re: TH350 replacing a Jetaway
Aussie based Olds
Re: door jamb bolt
Re: Mondello catalog
Re: 1984 Hurst F/S
Olds Club of America Web Site
Flow Master mufflers
RE: Water Pump Gone
Ram air
Cards with your Olds on them!!!!!
Re: Water Pump Gone
Re: Water Pump Gone
Re: TH350 replacing a Jetaway
Re: 1984 Hurst F/S
Re: Flow Master mufflers
Re: Ignition Improvements? Tranny Improvement? ET's Improvement?
Re: Muffler Question
Re: Muffler Question
1985 307 w/200 4R tranny
FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
To:	olds list <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
The Vista Cruiser's back on "That '70s Show"!
RAM AIR
Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
PERFORMANCE
Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
Re: Water Pump Gone
Subscribe to list
Re: PERFORMANCE
open element air cleaner
Re: Water Pump Gone
1981 vs. 1985 307
307 build-up
exhaust 1985 442
Re: open element air cleaner
Re: 1987 olds cutlass engine buid up
Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
Re: open element air cleaner
Re: 1987 olds cutlass engine buid up
RE: 307 build-up
RE: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
Re: open element air cleaner
Re: open element air cleaner
Re: door jamb bolt

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:02:22 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: TH350 replacing a Jetaway

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I don't have any experience with the Jetaway trans but the BOP (or OPB)=20
TH350 you refer to just means that the Olds, Pontiac, and Buick all =
share=20
the same bellhousing pattern and therefore the same TH350, at least in=20
the case.  The main variable to look for is the length of the tailshaft. =
 TH350's
came in several different tailshaft lengths, so you have to measure the=20
Jetaway for overall length and see if you can find a TH350 the same =
length
to alieveate the driveshaft length question.  On the kickdown cable =
issue
the easiest thing to do is to find one in a junkyard and pull the whole =
thing
(cable, carb bracket, etc.) from a vehicle w/a TH350 since the cable =
won't
come w/the new trans.  The part about using the carb base from a later =
car
is so you can hook the kickdown cable to the carb which you can modify =
your
original if your a little inventive.  Personally I would change the =
trans then the=20
engine which may be a little more work but if you have problems it will =
make
it easier to get things sorted out.  Just make sure that the shop that =
does=20
this swap is high quality and they should be able to figure most things =
out=20
on thier own.  You also might want to think about going ahead and =
replacing
things like u-joints while you've got it apart especially if the 455 is =
going to=20
be stout.  Better to be safe than sorry.

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net

    -----Original Message-----
    From: John H. Edmonds III <edmonds@UU.NET>
    To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
    Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 10:47 PM
    Subject: TH350 replacing a Jetaway
   =20
   =20
    Hey all,=20
        I have been researching this swap for quite some time, and I =
still have some unresolved issues, so I am asking for anyone's =
assistance. The car in question is a 1967 Cutlass Supreme Convertible =
with the 330/320 4 barrel in front of a Jetaway.=20

        1. What exactly do I need as far as linkage is concerned to make =
the transition from the Jetaway to the TH350? 442.com says to use a =
carburetor base from a 68-70 model with the 350 V8. Can the existing =
throttle linkage be modified to utilize this base? USA Parts in =
Manassas, VA (which is near me) sells rebuilt carburetors for different =
Olds models, and they do sell a 4 barrel for a 1970 350. If I bought =
this carburetor, would it have the necessary base that I need?=20

        2. B&M Racing sells a BOP TH350 in their catalog with a 6 inch =
tail shaft. Would this transmission work in my situation? Or should I =
get a used Olds TH350 and have it rebuilt?=20

        I eventually want to replace the 330 with a 455, so this leads =
to...=20

        3. Instead of just putting in the TH350 behind the 330, should I =
just wait until I have a 455 that is ready to be swapped in and do both =
at the same time?=20

     =20
        I want it to be known that I am not a mechanic in any way, shape =
or form, so I am going to have some shop in my area (northern Virginia) =
do this work for me. Thus, I am going to have to describe exactly what I =
want done as far as the conversion from the electric kickdown Jetaway to =
the mechanical TH350 to the person(s) performing the swap.=20

        I realize that these are a lot of questions, but I am new to the =
game of modifying older cars, so I need assistance from those with =
experience, which, since I have been subscribing to this list, appears =
to be all of you. Any words of wisdom, opinions, suggestions and the =
like will be greatly appreciated  (if this swap has already been dealt =
with in detail before on this list, feel free to reply to my personal =
address).    =20

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Network Operations Engineer
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<DIV>I don't have any experience with the Jetaway trans but the BOP (or =
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    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I&nbsp;have been researching this swap for =
quite some=20
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for=20
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    Convertible with the 330/320 4 barrel in front of a Jetaway.=20
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. What exactly do I need as far as linkage is =

    concerned to make the transition from the Jetaway to the TH350? =
442.com says=20
    to use a carburetor base from a 68-70 model with the 350 V8. Can the =

    existing throttle linkage be modified to utilize this base? USA =
Parts in=20
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different Olds=20
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    carburetor, would it have the necessary base that I need?=20
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. B&amp;M&nbsp;Racing sells a BOP TH350 in =
their=20
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    situation? Or should I&nbsp;get a used Olds TH350 and have it =
rebuilt?=20
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I&nbsp;eventually want to replace the 330 with =
a 455,=20
    so this leads to...=20
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Instead of just putting in the TH350 behind =
the=20
    330, should I just wait until I have a 455 that is ready to be =
swapped in=20
    and do both at the same time?=20
    <P>&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I want it to be known that I am not =
a=20
    mechanic in any way, shape or form, so I am going to have some shop =
in my=20
    area (northern Virginia) do this work for me. Thus, I am going to =
have to=20
    describe exactly what I want done as far as the conversion from the =
electric=20
    kickdown Jetaway to the mechanical TH350 to the person(s) performing =
the=20
    swap.=20
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I realize that these are a lot of questions, =
but I am=20
    new to the game of modifying older cars, so I need assistance from =
those=20
    with experience, which, since I have been subscribing to this list, =
appears=20
    to be all of you. Any words of wisdom, opinions, suggestions and the =
like=20
    will be greatly appreciated&nbsp; (if this swap has already been =
dealt with=20
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    address).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <PRE>--&nbsp;
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(703) 206-5485


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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:04:38 -0600
From: Shang <shang@wans.net>
Subject: Re: Book

craig g broussard wrote:
>
> Has anyone bought that book that is being advertised on some of the car
> newsgroups. I believe that Vintage Parts or something like that is
> advertising it to foind parts. There is a copy of the ad below.
>
> Let me know if it is any good
>
> Adam Broussard
> 1962 Olds F-85 Cutlass Convertible


I ordered this book from Amazon.com and it is supposed to be here
Tuesday, it was $15.95. I'll let you know if it's worth anything or not.

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:57:26 -0500
From: spiceman@scottsburg.com
Subject: door jamb bolt

OL>I have been hearing this incessent squeaking noise coming from (what I thoug
OL>was) my rear window. After dismantling and retightening everything, I realiz
OL>it was the door jamb bolt. The torx screw has been stripped and I was
OL>wondering if  I can replace the bolt. Are they readily available? Can they b
OL>bought new?  does anyone have one I could buy? Much obliged.
OL>Bruce
OL>75 Delta 88 conv.
GO TO LOCAL GM DEALER PROBABLY COST ABOUT 25$
cott County Internet Access
 http://www.scottsburg.com
The Computer Age Company Inc.

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 02:03:11 -0700
From: "David Litke" <dlitke@bewellnet.com>
Subject: Problem with other two barrels resolved.

Thanks guys for the discussion and ideas on the other 2 barrels on my
Q-jet.  As I recounted my great job of putting the carb back together I
remembered that I tightened the arm, connected to the secondary air valve,
that holds the metering rods down with the rods not in and seated all the
way bending the arm.  So I pulled the arm off and rebent it where I thought
that it sould be and voila I now have no loss of power when engaging them.
Does anyone know  exactly  how this arm should be set?
I also advanced the timing 5 degrees (for living a mile above sea level)
and now I have a much quicker car that is smoother at the higher rpms.
These 350's really kick butt.  Of course the only other cars I've owned are
rice burners.   Love that American Muscle.

David Litke
72 Cutlass Supreme.

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 05:10:12 -0500
From: David Brode <dbrode@hereintown.net>
Subject: Re: muffler question

Hello,
 I helped a friend with a '34 Olds streetrod. It has a healthy 455. He
used Walker/Dynomax "Hemi" mufflers. They're a bit bigger than the
"Turbo" mufflers. It's pretty quiet.
Dave Brode
64 Cutlass

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:36:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: TH350 replacing a Jetaway

Remember that on the '69-'72 Cutlasses with TH350 the kickdown cable was
attached to the accelerator pedal, not the carb linkage. If the '67 uses a
throttle cable instead of a rod linkage for the accelerator, you might be
able to adapt a '69-'72 accelerator pedal and kickdown cable rather than
get into the hassle of changing carbs, etc. But otherwise you might need
to activate it from the carb like used on later models. Or, you could just
do without downshift cables and do it manually.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:29:40 +1030
From: "Scott Clisby" <scott@tplex.com.au>
Subject: Aussie based Olds

Guys,

I have finally got around to creating a web page with a few pics of my 60
Olds coupe (TANK-60) and my dads 60 olds 4 door (YANK-60). Some of the newer
pics of my coupe show the new cut & shut wheels. When I got the car it had
1970 buick sports rims, I recently removed the black paint outs and had the
centre cut out of these and the centres welded into an 8 inch rim. I also
bought a set of Mr Lugnut spinners to finish them off (not 100% original but
what the hell).

For those wondering about tyre sizes I'm running 235's on the front and
275/60 TA's on the rear.

Hope you enjoy the pics......

Ps. I have also included some pics of the last cruise night (held in
Adelaide - South Australia), 80 plus cars. This weekend we are going to the
second biggest car outing (500-600 cars) not too many Old's but some cool
american rides. Stay posted I'll be posting some pics after the weekend.

Scott Clisby  :-)
http://www.tplex.com.au/~scott/

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:29:45 EST
From: DUKEOFBLUZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: door jamb bolt

NAPA has them

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:30:42 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Mondello catalog

Mondello has small block parts as well as big block, tho his heart is
obviously in the 455 (the number '455' appears in many of his products' part
numbers).

Can't comment on prices. ALL performance stuff seems expensive to me.

His $24 manual is highly recommended for anyone building a motor. Lots of
tips & tricks from someone who's done it all before. Some of it
controversial. What annoys me about it tho is that he references his own
part numbers a lot when describing his methods.

drc

ICQ# 21805347

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:32:59 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Re: 1984 Hurst F/S

HEY, I'm very interested in the car. I'm here in NY. If you can please maybe
obtain some more info about the car and possibly a picture, I'd greatly
appreciate it. Thanks so much



- -----Original Message-----
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 1:33 AM
Subject: 1984 Hurst F/S


>Local newspaper had the following in the classifieds:
>
>1984 Hurst/Olds limited Edition, T-tops,lightning rods, rear spoiler,
>engine and transmission rebuilt, all mechanics new.  $2,200 or best
>offer.  502 570-0144 days
>
>This car is located somewhere in the western half of Ky.  Usual
>disclaimers apply.  Just thought someone might be interested.

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 98 08:21:21 -0500
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: Olds Club of America Web Site

Fill in shameless plug here:

To the new members of the list and the rest of the list:

The Oldsmobile Club of America has a web site at:
http://www.oldsclub.org

Alot of info about the club can be found there, including the good old
membership application form. There are even exerpts from JWO.  Upcoming
updates on Nov 1, 1998 include:

COMPLETE REVAMPING OF THE SITE!
New links.
Photos of the 1998 OCA National Meet
Info about the 1999 & 200 National Meet (2000 has a new location!)
Easy search club listings
New Oldsmobile History section! (Indy 500 Pace cars)
Send e-mail to various parts of the OCA
Whatever else I can get done between now and Sunday Morning ;-)

If you want your web site listed there, just send me the URL, your name,
OCA# & Expiration date.  Send them to brad442@erols.com or
webguy@oldsclub.org.

There hasn't been many updates recently due to trying to learn Microsoft
FrontPage98 and doing the OCA membership software rewrite and my local OCA
chapter stuff. Later

 -----  Brad Nicholson (OCA's WebGuy)
|  |  | OCA# 18984
|  |  | 1987 442 W-42
|  |  | 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
|  |  | President, Oldsmobile Centennial Club (Maryland Chapter of OCA)
|  |  | Oldsmobile Centennial Club Web Site: http://www.erols.com/brad442/occ
| /|\ | H: brad442@erols.com
|/ | \| W: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
|  |  | OCA: WebGuy@oldsclub.org
 -----  Oldsmobile Club of America Web Site: http://www.oldsclub.org

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:41:17 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Flow Master mufflers

I have a 1985 Cutlass 442 with a 307 engine and a 200 4R tranny. I would
like to install Flow master mufflers on it. Can anyone tell me how much more
HP I will get by doing so, and how will it increase my performance.

                                                            Thanks,

                                                            Frank

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 05:37:14 -0800
From: "Gary Andresen (At Home - Personal e-mail address)" <gandresen@home.com>
Subject: RE: Water Pump Gone

The water pump went a few weeks ago on the '69 Olds 455 that I have
in my '55 Olds.

Went to my local auto parts store and he found two pumps that looked
very similar.  Said he would have to order it and then checked with
another local store (Monument auto parts in Dublin, CA) who said they
had some in stock.  Drove over and picked it up.  Brand new, not rebuilt.

They are out there.  Local stores are usually more helpful, especially if
they recognize you.
 
Gary Andresen

'55 Old 88 2-door Hardtop
with 455 Olds and T400
http://www.442.com/andresen.html


- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of M&D Gillespie
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 1998 5:48 PM
To: Oldsmobile List
Subject: Water Pump Gone


Well, We took the 69 Cutlass up to Indianapolis today to see
a movie. Got within a few blocks of home on the way back and
a loud scraping noise statred up under the hood. Stopped
real quick to check it out and it looked like the fan was
going to come off. The noise stopped though and I decided to
try and make it home. Got it to the house and in the garage
and checked it closer. The wobble was coming from the
waterpump shaft. I assume the bearing is shot.
Local AutoZone was open but claimed that the pump wasn't
available. Called Summit and they had one for a 71 to 77 350
without A/C. They say it will fit so I ordered it. I've
heard a lot of stories on the List of people getting a
waterpump that was supposed to fit, only to find the nose
was too long (or short).
Does any one know if the part Summit sells will/or will not
fit a 69 350 without A/C?
TIA
==============================================
Mick Gillespie
1969 Cutlass Conv.
1980 Toronado Brougham
OCA# 29770
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
==============================================

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:44:59 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Ram air

Is it possible to install RAM air into a 1985 Cutlass 442 w/307 and 200 4R
tranny and if so who can I contact about getting the necessary parts.

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:01:37 EST
From: DUKEOFBLUZ@aol.com
Subject: Cards with your Olds on them!!!!!

A good friend of mine and a fellow member of OCA has started her own business.
She made  cards for our car club and they look GREAT!!! , below is a letter
about her business, Thanks,, Jeffrey T. Fieldsend
Board of Director, OCC- Oldsmobile Cutlass Coupes

I have posted a sample and a link to her web site here,
http://members.aol.com/DUKEOFBLUZ/index6.html

Dear Olds 
Lovers,									

I have been making these beautiful Full Color "Car Business Cards" for members
of our local car club. I thought you might be interested in some of the
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:40:49 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Water Pump Gone

>> Does any one know if the part Summit sells will/or will not
>> fit a 69 350 without A/C?
[...]
> I'd have my doubts.

Me too. A car with A/C will have the evaporator sitting in front
of the radiator, which could force the radiator to sit slightly
further back. A water pump for an A/C-equipped car may have a
shorter front pulley shaft than a non-A/C equivalent, since the
fan would need to be slightly further back to clear the radiator.

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:48:29 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Water Pump Gone

Previously I wrote:

> A car with A/C will have the evaporator sitting in front
> of the radiator, which could force the radiator to sit slightly
> further back.

*gack*  I meant the _condensor_, not the evaporator. The condensor
is sitting in front of the radiator. If the evaporator was up
there, you'd be having a bunch of other problems instead.  :-)

OTOH, using the air conditioner to cool the radiator would be a
great strategy, I think. Wonder why no one's ever thought of it.

(Pause here while three hundred Olds list members all leap for
their Reply buttons...  :-)

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:42:53 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: TH350 replacing a Jetaway

Remember that on the '69-'72 Cutlasses with TH350 the kickdown cable was
attached to the accelerator pedal, not the carb linkage. If the '67 uses a
throttle cable instead of a rod linkage for the accelerator, you might be
able to adapt a '69-'72 accelerator pedal and kickdown cable rather than
get into the hassle of changing carbs, etc. But otherwise you might need
to activate it from the carb like used on later models.
_________

Unfortunately, the 67s use a rod-style throttle linkage, so adapting the
kickdown cable is not very straighforward.  A better solution is to get the
bracket and cable from a mid-70s Olds, where the kickdown _is_ activated
off the carb's throttle lever.  This is real easy to adapt (the bracket
should bolt on using the back two bolts holding the carb to the manifold.
You will either need to adapt the throttle plate from a Q-jet that has this
provision (since the throttle lever on that carb will have the necessary
provision for attaching the kickdown cable) or you'll need to adapt
something to your existing carb.  If you have a non-original Q-jet on the
car now, it may already have the necessary provision.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:23:00 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: 1984 Hurst F/S

Frank Montero wrote:
>
> HEY, I'm very interested in the car. I'm here in NY. If you can please maybe
> obtain some more info about the car and possibly a picture, I'd greatly
> appreciate it. Thanks so much.

It would be best if you called the seller direct.  They may have access
to the net from their end, but I couldn't send a picture if I had it.
Don't have a scanner or appropriate camera yet, but I'm looking.  If you
find out where it is, I might be able to go take a look depending on
work load, distance, etc.

Don Sowers

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:29:29 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Flow Master mufflers

Frank Montero wrote:
>
> I have a 1985 Cutlass 442 with a 307 engine and a 200 4R tranny. I would
> like to install Flow master mufflers on it. Can anyone tell me how much more
> HP I will get by doing so, and how will it increase my performance.
>
>                                                             Thanks,
>
>                                                             Frank

I don't know about more power, but they sound really good. I've got
three chambers on my '73, when it idles, it's kinda soft, but when you
get on it, people can hear you coming.

- --
*************
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
**************************************************

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:32:44 -0500
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition Improvements? Tranny Improvement? ET's Improvement?

.  First
the timing chain.  Generic, name brand, dual, gear drive?  Whats the
best bang for the buck?

I'm running an Edelbrock double roller and is had 50K miles on it with
no timing variation.  When I build my big block, I'm going to use a
Coyles true roller, more $$, but I hear it's a real nice setup.

I buy everthing from Summit.  I just learned that Pep Boys auto parts
can get most of the stuff in the Summit or Jegs catalogs and match
their cost!

As for the HEI, I just did this and it works way better than my
Mallory Unilite/MSD setup that I had.  From summit, get an MSD-6
ignition box (I got the 6AL because it has a rev-limiter).  Get the
MSD HEI coil ($72) but it fits in the cap so  you don't need an
external coil).  Get the Summit advance kit ($4.50).  Taylor Spiro-pro
wires ($42), and new plugs.  Get the MSD extension wire to plug the
MSD into the HEI.

From the autoparts store, get a high quality HEI cap and rotor with
brass terminals.

The MSD-6 box has a wire harness that plugs into the HEI pickup, you
take the module and condenser out, they're not needed.

After I did this, replacing my $200 Mallory Unilite, Blaster coil, and
MSD setup, I went from 10 to 14MPG and the car has way more throttle
response.

- -greg

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:36:52 -0500
From: "Gregory Zimmerman" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question

I've been running Walker dyno-max superturbos (2 1/4") for six years
and they still sound great and don't have any rust on them.  Not bad
for $35 each.

- -greg

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:51:47 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler Question

wouldn't Flow Masters increase performance though??????


- -----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Zimmerman <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Muffler Question


>I've been running Walker dyno-max superturbos (2 1/4") for six years
>and they still sound great and don't have any rust on them.  Not bad
>for $35 each.
>
>-greg
>
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:54:07 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: 1985 307 w/200 4R tranny

How can I increase performance and HP without having to refinance my
home????

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:56:26 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS

Do flow masters increase performance at all or do they just sound good. Some
tell me they do increase performance others tell me they don't. What's the
final verdict??????

Can anyone tell me who manufactures Flow Master mufflers??????

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 1980 09:29:18 +0000
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS

Flow master makes them they in and of themselves do not increase performance
they do however have less back pressure allowing your engine to vent its
waste gasses in a more expeditiouus manner Walker makes a welded muffler
(that is the term for these boxes) called a race magnum that works and
sounds better than a flowmaster......KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Frank Montero <parc@erols.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 3:52 PM
Subject: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS


>Do flow masters increase performance at all or do they just sound good.
Some
>tell me they do increase performance others tell me they don't. What's the
>final verdict??????
>
>Can anyone tell me who manufactures Flow Master mufflers??????
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 1980 09:31:17 +0000
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
Subject: To:	olds list <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>

this is to those whom ordered the video of the speedvision episode on the
442 the tape is on its way never fear just have been very busy working and
such will have them in the mail by the end of the week sorry.............KK

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:37:37 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS

Can you tell me exactly which welder muffler it is your speaking about. I
just might install those instead of flow masters. You say there better than
flow masters. Can you please describe in more just why there better than
flow masters????


                                    THANKS SO MUCH

                                    FRANK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS


>Flow master makes them they in and of themselves do not increase
performance
>they do however have less back pressure allowing your engine to vent its
>waste gasses in a more expeditiouus manner Walker makes a welded muffler
>(that is the term for these boxes) called a race magnum that works and
>sounds better than a flowmaster......KK
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Frank Montero <parc@erols.com>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 3:52 PM
>Subject: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
>
>
>>Do flow masters increase performance at all or do they just sound good.
>Some
>>tell me they do increase performance others tell me they don't. What's the
>>final verdict??????
>>
>>Can anyone tell me who manufactures Flow Master mufflers??????
>>
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:46:00 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: The Vista Cruiser's back on "That '70s Show"!

The '69 Vista Cruiser is alive and well on "That '70s Show". I was
afraid they might have only rented it for the pilot episode and
then lost it again.

It had a major role last night when the kids went out cruising and
discovered a beer keg. Later on the fathers go out hunting for them
in Dad's Toyota in the hopes of finding them and the station wagon...

(paraphrasing from memory)

Dad #2: They could be anywhere. Needle, meet haystack...

Dad #1: Oh, come on: They left in a wood-paneled ocean liner.
        We'll find them!

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:56:19 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: RAM AIR

is it possible to install RAM air into a 1985 Cutlass 442 w/a 307 & 200 4R
tranny and if so can anyone tell me what parts I will need and what company
manufactures them. Thank you!!!

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:29:18 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS

>Can anyone tell me who manufactures Flow Master mufflers??????

Um, the Flowmaster Muffler Company?  :-)  Here's their website:

http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:06:53 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: PERFORMANCE

I'm having a problem getting anything to increase performance on my 1985
Cutlass 442 w/a 307 and 200 4R tranny. People tell me there's virtually
nothing I can do to increase performance. I don't believe that.
If anyone has any ideas can you please help.

FRANK

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:04:04 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS

I have a pair of the DynoMax Race Magnum mufflers. They DON'T have chambers
like Flowmasters do(Hp loss due to the exhaust having to make turns). The
Dynomax are a straight through design that makes more power. EVERY "Mustang
Dork" out there has the Flowmaster on their car. THIS IS THE BIGGEST REASON
NOT TO GET THEM ON YOUR CAR. The Flowmaster produces a "high shrill" sound
while the Dynomax produces a "low bear like sound" which complements the
olds motor so much more. Be different and get the Dynomax race magnums
(jegs sells them for about $50.00  a piece), I have athe 2 1/2 inch with
the angled pipe(meaning you can see through the muffler to the other side
but the pipe is on an angle - In center/ Off center - ).

Leter (no offense to Olds owners who have Flowmasters on their cars ( AS
LONG AS THE MOTOR IS AN OLDS MOTOR) if not then you must be burned at the
stake!!!
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: Frank Montero <parc@erols.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
> Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 10:37 AM
>
> Can you tell me exactly which welder muffler it is your speaking about. I
> just might install those instead of flow masters. You say there better
than
> flow masters. Can you please describe in more just why there better than
> flow masters????
>
>
>                                     THANKS SO MUCH
>
>                                     FRANK
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
>
>
> >Flow master makes them they in and of themselves do not increase
> performance
> >they do however have less back pressure allowing your engine to vent its
> >waste gasses in a more expeditiouus manner Walker makes a welded muffler
> >(that is the term for these boxes) called a race magnum that works and
> >sounds better than a flowmaster......KK
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Frank Montero <parc@erols.com>
> >To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 3:52 PM
> >Subject: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
> >
> >
> >>Do flow masters increase performance at all or do they just sound good.
> >Some
> >>tell me they do increase performance others tell me they don't. What's
the
> >>final verdict??????
> >>
> >>Can anyone tell me who manufactures Flow Master mufflers??????
> >>
> >

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:51:51 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: Water Pump Gone

OK, let me step out on a limb with a generalization.  Most evaporators are
crammed in the area between the radiator and grille with the radiator located
in the same spot for either A/C or Non-A/C vehicles.  I have yet to see one
with the radiator moved to the rear for evaporator clearance.
Of course this applies to American cars and trucks, not any "furrin stuff" as
they known to do weird things.  I am not saying it is not possible that some
have been moved, just that I have never witnessed this.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:25:11 -0500
From: "Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician" <krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us>
Subject: Subscribe to list

Could someone refresh my memory on where to go to re-subscribe to the
list? It has been a while and cant remember how I got on here to
begin with. Thanks in advance
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Krumwiede
MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Freeport IL
Fax 235-6130
krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"
"Asumption is the fools path to failure"

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:31:49 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: PERFORMANCE

>I'm having a problem getting anything to increase performance on my 1985
>Cutlass 442 w/a 307 and 200 4R tranny. People tell me there's virtually
>nothing I can do to increase performance. I don't believe that.
>If anyone has any ideas can you please help.


I had a '81 307 that I tried a bunch of stuff with and here is what will
work.

The absolute best thing that you could do is get better rear gears.  Since
you have a 442, chances are that they are 3.73s.  Even so, you could go with
4.10s or 4.30 or 4.56 gear.  With overdrive you would still have decent
cruise RPMs.  This will give you the best performance for dollar.  If they
are not 3.73s, this is a absolute must.  I had 3.23s in my '81 Van before
they got changed to 4.10s.  3.23s are good gear (have this on my 455) but
still the difference was phenomenal.  Otherwise (I believe this is the 7A or
6A roller motor), the other thing that you should do is get headers and dual
exhaust with GOOD turbo mufflers (like Dynomax).  This will help a bit.
Things like recurving your timing or rejeting your car is cheap but not
quite as effective on the 307.  A higher stall converter would be a good
idea, but again a 442 should have a 2000 stall or so in the fist place.
Shift kit is cool, but performance increase is not that great, although if
you can shift faster you go faster, plus it crimps the tires on shifts so
that is cool as well.  Being the '85 motor, parts are rather limited.  Other
then these mods, there is nothing else I know of that would make a huge
difference (except NITROUS). My dads friend just bought a '85 Delta 88 with
60,000 miles and a 6A head motor and 2004r trans.  It is absolutely gutless.
My '81 307 Delta would have eaten in alive (now with 455).  Even my 1 barrel
propane mixer '81 Regency that is propane powered can kick its but.
Anything more then this and you have to get into working on the motor.
E-mail me if you have any questions igor455@home.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:35:08 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: open element air cleaner

Can someone tell me if open element air cleaners cause your car to burn more
gas? This is a rumor I heard. And also who makes the best open element air
cleaner?????????????????????????

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:40:46 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Water Pump Gone

> >> Does any one know if the part Summit sells will/or will not
> >> fit a 69 350 without A/C?
> [...]
> > I'd have my doubts.
>
> A water pump for an A/C-equipped car may have a
> shorter front pulley shaft than a non-A/C equivalent,

        Believe it or not, my Year One catalog indicates the water pump
for all models (A, B, C, and E bodies) WITH A/C is actually longer than
the pump for A and E bodies without A/C.  Go figure. :-)

        Anyway, Mick Gillespie's original post asked if the pump from
Summit for '71 through '77 cars without A/C would fit his '69 car, which
also does not have A/C.   My earlier response brought up the point that
Supercars Unlimited lists different part numbers for '68-'70 cars
without A/C and '71-'72 cars, also without A/C.  So, I'd be cautious
about the Summit pump; I have no idea, myself.


Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:40:23 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: 1981 vs. 1985 307

My dads friend bought a '85 Delta 88 two weeks ago with 60,000 miles, 307 6A
heads, 200-4R trans and single exaust of course.  He had new pipe and
muffler put in from converter back with no resonator.  I know that the rear
gear on this is probably a 2.41 or 2.56 that my Regency has with OD.  My '81
Regency has a original 307 with 150,000 miles, it has the OD, it is propane
powered, 2.56 geared and heavier then the Delta.  My '81 Delta had a 250,000
mile 307, 4-bbl, th250 and 2.41 posi.  Both of my '81s could destroy the '85
in a acceleration run anywhere in the power band.  The '85 is simply
gutless.  I know about the roller motor and smaller ports, but the
advertised power difference was only about 10hp, so then how come that every
'84 and '85 307 I have ever driven is gutless.  What else is there that is
choking these motors.  Thanks.  Igor.

noise.

Igor Todorovic, UofC

1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23s)
1981 Regency (307/2004r/propane)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:56:17 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: 307 build-up

Okay, I am about to build my second engine (just can't help it).  It will be
the 307 that I pulled out of my '81 Delta.  The motor had high miles and the
cam timing gear stripped to a point where the chain fell off.  When this
happend the motor burned or used no oil, operation was smooth and it had
power for a 2.41 reared 307 in a big car.  Upon removal of my 5A heads, I
found that the head gasket was thick blue, like the fel-pro I used on my
455.  I will mesure the bore to determine if the motor has been bored over
(what is the stock bore please).  The ridge is almost non-existent and the
bore looks good.  I want to make a major budget motor (not like the 455), so
overbore and new pistons are out of question (especially if it was bored
over already).  I would like to change the rings (and hone of course),
change the berrings while I am at it and the oil pump.  Then, I would like
to pull the cam and lifters out of my 455 (one week of use, maybe foure by
the time I get it out) and put it in the 307.  The 455 needs a bigger cam.
The specs are 272-280AD, 204-214 @.050, 448/472 lift.  I think that this
would be okay in the 307.  Then, I heared that #5 heads from a 350 would
bump compression, but the FAQ states only 3cc decrease in Comb.Chamber over
the 5As from the 307.  What do you think.  I want about 9.5 compression if
it is possible, or atleast more then now.  Should I use original olds head
gasket and have the heads milled.  Headers would also play a big part in
this.  I don't have a car to put in in yet (well, maybe my Regency but
nahh), however my girlfriend loves the Chevy Novas from the '70s and wants
to get one.  No problem with my but all the ones we looked at had crappy
305s.  So SHE said (almost unbelivable) that she wants to buy the Nova and
get a OLDS 307 (built by me) put in.  I figure marry this girl.  So here is
my simplified question:

I want a 225HP 307 out of a '81 block.
I want a ~9.5 CR or as high as I can get with stock pistons
What heads do I use
What gears do I use with my cam
What else to do for a cheap 307

Thanks.

Igor Todorovic, UofC

1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23s)
1981 Regency (307/2004r/propane)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:04:46 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: exhaust 1985 442

I was told that upgrading my pipes from the original size to 2.5" was a
mistake because I lost a few ponies by doing so. Is this true??

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:48:56 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: open element air cleaner

Frank Montero wrote:

> Can someone tell me if open element air cleaners cause your car to burn more
> gas? This is a rumor I heard. And also who makes the best open element air
> cleaner?????????????????????????

        Frank,

        According to the Edelbrock website, an open element air cleaner will
make your carburetor run richer.  I had one for awhile and can't say my fuel
economy suffered, but it didn't get any better, either.  My car also backfired
from time to time with it.   Most people recommend K&N.  Haven't used them
myself.

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:02:46 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 1987 olds cutlass engine buid up

I built one with close to 400 hp using the edelbrock rpm kit.


>
>any info for building a 350 rocket to about 400 HP , and or tips would
>be gladly acepted.


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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:13:21 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS

DUDE,
    you mentioned DYNOMAX mufflers, where can I pick these up at and will
they increase performance like flowmasters will??


- -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS


>I have a pair of the DynoMax Race Magnum mufflers. They DON'T have chambers
>like Flowmasters do(Hp loss due to the exhaust having to make turns). The
>Dynomax are a straight through design that makes more power. EVERY "Mustang
>Dork" out there has the Flowmaster on their car. THIS IS THE BIGGEST REASON
>NOT TO GET THEM ON YOUR CAR. The Flowmaster produces a "high shrill" sound
>while the Dynomax produces a "low bear like sound" which complements the
>olds motor so much more. Be different and get the Dynomax race magnums
>(jegs sells them for about $50.00  a piece), I have athe 2 1/2 inch with
>the angled pipe(meaning you can see through the muffler to the other side
>but the pipe is on an angle - In center/ Off center - ).
>
>Leter (no offense to Olds owners who have Flowmasters on their cars ( AS
>LONG AS THE MOTOR IS AN OLDS MOTOR) if not then you must be burned at the
>stake!!!
>Pettrix@prodigy.net
>
>----------
>> From: Frank Montero <parc@erols.com>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
>> Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 10:37 AM
>>
>> Can you tell me exactly which welder muffler it is your speaking about. I
>> just might install those instead of flow masters. You say there better
>than
>> flow masters. Can you please describe in more just why there better than
>> flow masters????
>>
>>
>>                                     THANKS SO MUCH
>>
>>                                     FRANK
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@MCI2000.com>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 11:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
>>
>>
>> >Flow master makes them they in and of themselves do not increase
>> performance
>> >they do however have less back pressure allowing your engine to vent its
>> >waste gasses in a more expeditiouus manner Walker makes a welded muffler
>> >(that is the term for these boxes) called a race magnum that works and
>> >sounds better than a flowmaster......KK
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Frank Montero <parc@erols.com>
>> >To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 3:52 PM
>> >Subject: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS
>> >
>> >
>> >>Do flow masters increase performance at all or do they just sound good.
>> >Some
>> >>tell me they do increase performance others tell me they don't. What's
>the
>> >>final verdict??????
>> >>
>> >>Can anyone tell me who manufactures Flow Master mufflers??????
>> >>
>> >
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:18:01 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Re: open element air cleaner

R U sure the bask firing was due to the open element air cleaner???
- -----Original Message-----
From: Thomas P. Smith <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: open element air cleaner


>
>
>Frank Montero wrote:
>
>> Can someone tell me if open element air cleaners cause your car to burn
more
>> gas? This is a rumor I heard. And also who makes the best open element
air
>> cleaner?????????????????????????
>
>        Frank,
>
>        According to the Edelbrock website, an open element air cleaner
will
>make your carburetor run richer.  I had one for awhile and can't say my
fuel
>economy suffered, but it didn't get any better, either.  My car also
backfired
>from time to time with it.   Most people recommend K&N.  Haven't used them
>myself.
>
>--
>Thomas P. Smith
>1971 Cutlass S 350
>smithtp@ix.netcom.com
>
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:21:21 -0500
From: "Frank Montero" <parc@erols.com>
Subject: Re: 1987 olds cutlass engine buid up

Jason,
    I have an '85 442 w/a 307 & a 200 4R tranny. What engine modifications
can I make in order to get more HP without spending a fortune?


                                            Thanks;
                                                FRANK
- -----Original Message-----
From: jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: 1987 olds cutlass engine buid up


>I built one with close to 400 hp using the edelbrock rpm kit.
>
>
>>
>>any info for building a 350 rocket to about 400 HP , and or tips would
>>be gladly acepted.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:17:57 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: 307 build-up

On Monday, October 26, 1998 12:56 PM, Igor T. '81 455DRB 
[SMTP:igor455@home.com]
wrote: > > (what is the stock bore please).

3.800"

> to pull the cam and lifters out of my 455 (one week of use, maybe foure by
> the time I get it out) and put it in the 307.

Not sure about your 455, but remember the 307 of that vintage uses the smaller
.842" dia. lifters.

> would be okay in the 307.  Then, I heared that #5 heads from a 350 would
> bump compression, but the FAQ states only 3cc decrease in Comb.Chamber over
> the 5As from the 307.  What do you think.  I want about 9.5 compression if
> it is possible, or atleast more then now.

You'd have to probably mill the heads or use a thinner gasket if you wanted 
more
compression than 3cc's will give you.

> get a OLDS 307 (built by me) put in.  I figure marry this girl.

Yes, marry her immediately!  :-)

> I want a 225HP 307 out of a '81 block.

Mmmm...maybe.  Might cost a little bit, though.

> I want a ~9.5 CR or as high as I can get with stock pistons

Again, the #5 heads (from 350) and a nice thin gasket would probably be the
cheapest way to do it.

> What heads do I use

The #5's sound like a nice choice, if you can find them cheap.  Why are you
specifically looking at that 9.5:1 CR?  You could probably stick with the stock
heads (maybe port them slightly) and put in a nice cam.  The stock 307 has
8.5:1 compression (taken right from the shop manual) so if you put in a nice
thin gasket and a nice cam, you should be pushing 180 HP with just those mods
and the increased compression.  Maybe the Edelbrock intake and headers/exhaust
and you should be over 200 HP.

> What else to do for a cheap 307

Get a cam for the '9' motors, or maybe one with slightly larger lift.  Y cam is
.400" lift (int. and exh.) and the 9 is .440" lift (int. and exh.).  If you
want to keep the computer, you probably shouldn't put in anything more than a
.450" lift.

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:21:07 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: FLOW MASTER MUFFLERS

On Monday, October 26, 1998 1:13 PM, Frank Montero [SMTP:parc@erols.com] wrote:
> DUDE,
>     you mentioned DYNOMAX mufflers, where can I pick these up at and will
> they increase performance like flowmasters will??

DUDE, goto http://www.summitracing.com and order a free catalog.  And, PLEASE,
trim replies...  :-)

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:31:23 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: open element air cleaner

Frank Montero wrote:

> R U sure the bask firing was due to the open element air cleaner???

        Pretty sure.  My low end acceleration was poorer, too.  I mean, it's
like this:  Closed air cleaner...things okay.  Open element...intermittent
backfiring and poorer acceleration from a stop or low speeds; better higher
speed, though.  Back to closed air cleaner...things okay again.  Of course,
this was way back when I first got into this stuff and all I did was put on the
air cleaner...no other changes to equalize things.  I eventually just decided
the type of driving I did didn't warrant the open air cleaner, and I liked the
thermostatic switch and heat tube of the stock cleaner for colder weather.  So,
I never tried to make it work.

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:54:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: open element air cleaner

I am running a 14" Edelbrock open air cleaner on my 69 Cutlass. I have
never tried the closed one. The car came with this air cleaner. I
guess that I haven't really noticed any fuel economy problems. But, as
for my case, I am having the problem of the carb running lean. I have
the Edelbrock Performer cam and intake on it. I had a local speed shop
see if they could adjust the carb and he said the only thing I could
really do is put bigger jets in. So in my case, I am running too lean.
If this is due to the air cleaner, I dunno, but I just wanted to add
my 2 cents in.

Del
==
Rock-Man's Page
http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass "S"
1986 Honda Accord DX

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:57:37 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: door jamb bolt

You are talking about the bolt that the rear of the Door 'Clamps'
around??

This is a VERY bitter subject to me.  $35 Dollars from local dealership
for a cheap Bolt with a bushing and washer on it!! (Bolt is low-grade,
nothing fancy, either..)

Really, the torx screw doesn't matter, as most people just use
vice-grips on the bolt.  Is the bushing worn out??  Given the prices I
could find, I'm investigating building my own (all that ever wears out
is the bushing..)  I believe with today's plastics, you could get a
tuffer bushing anyways.  The parts are semi-universal and dime-a-dozen
at wreckers..  Let me know what you find in aftermarket prices!

BTW, without even seeing it, you have a NICE car!

Eric
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/biggreen.shtml

JonKrisInc@aol.com wrote:
>
> I have been hearing this incessent squeaking noise coming from (what I 
thought
> was) my rear window. After dismantling and retightening everything, I 
realized
> it was the door jamb bolt. The torx screw has been stripped and I was
> wondering if  I can replace the bolt. Are they readily available? Can they be
> bought new?  does anyone have one I could buy? Much obliged.
> Bruce
> 75 Delta 88 conv.

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