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oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, October 18 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1558



Re: Open letter about list traffic
Re: 66 cutlass
Lou Biggs, sorry not private
Replies/traffic jams, missing, rice, etc.
RE: dual quads?
Re: Transmission
Re: emblem locations/ solution ?
CREDIT CARD PROCESSING
Convertible Well Liner
Seat Hog Rings
Re: Seat Hog Rings
Quincy Shoot.
Re: Parts, new
intake manifold question
Re: intake manifold question
Re: intake manifold question
Re: emblem locations
#1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?
'73 Rocket Rescue
Re: Open letter about list traffic
Re: Convertible Well Liner
Leaving the list for now...
Practical OLDS Majic....
Re: enough already & list traffic
Re: Open letter about list traffic
Big Day For ME
RE: Open letter about list traffic
Re: #1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?
Re: #1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?
Re: #1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?
TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs
Olds Ads
455 '80's Olds Custom Cruiser
rockingham et finals
Re: Open letter about list traffic
Re: Daytona under the lights, 8:00
turbo 400 needed
Re: Convertible Well Liner
'73 Rocket Rescue, Part II
'73 Rocket Rescue (fwd)
thanks
Re: Open letter about list traffic
442 convert
need a horn button
Updates...and a message :)
Unsubscribe
intake manifold
Re: 66 cutlass
Olds 1950 88 4 door
'58 Project Car FS
ADMIN: List Traffic & Reply-to's
I'm back.
Re: Open letter about list traffic
Parts Interchange
List

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:22:57 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

I agree that replies should be sent to the list, and i'd like to add
another reason.

My old email system where I used to work would not allow me to repply to
someome privately even if I wanted to.  Without going into detail, there
was no way for me to get the person's address unless he had it somewhere
in the post; it did not appear anywhere else!  My system administrator
forwarded all messages to me, so they were considered to all be from one
address.  Also when I hit the reply option, my posts would get sent to
Greg privately, remember ray.costanzo@firstunion.com?  What a pain in the
rear that was...  So, people at the mercy of inferior systems should also
be considered.  But also, who cares if there are a lot of posts?  That's
what we're here to do.  We can ask questions, offer advice, relate
stories, and send meaningless jokes and statements if we like.  At least
I believe it should be that way.  We're not curing cancer here, we're
talking about cars on our friggin computers.  

Also, if there are lurkers who don't like the volume, I would gladly
forward any questions you may come across if y'all decide to uns*bscribe.
 We're all willing to help in any way we can, but speaking like a
textbook all the time will kill the list's id.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:10:30 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Re: 66 cutlass

Where are you?  Does it run and have heat?

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:29:46 -0400 Ted Rollins <trollins@rfci.net>
writes:
>Selling my 66 Cutlass=$800.00
>
>

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:11:58 -0400
From: rocket409@juno.com (Ray Costanzo)
Subject: Lou Biggs, sorry not private

Lou,
I just thought I'd let you know I printed out your remember Pearl Harbor
quote and hung it up...

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:26:38 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Replies/traffic jams, missing, rice, etc.

Yikes, what a messy weekend...  So, I'll make a few comments, in order, I
guess...

Replies:  Yes, this list would cripple without any replies.  But senseless and
unnecessary replies are crippling the list, also.  Many posts ~need~ to be kept
private, since nobody really cares about the subsequent dealings of a sales
deal.  The initial sales post should be full of information, and all subsequent
should be kept private.  Same goes with all topics.  If you're sending for only
one or two individuals, send it to them.  If it's a primarily Olds topic of
interest, with like five or more probable recipients, then fine, it can stay on
the list.  

"Missing" thread.  This apparantly stems from the rice burner thread, that was
so ill fated (I hear...  I deleted ~all~ of them, without reading any...)  The
missing thread looks dangerously close to ADMIN action too, although not nearly
as bandwidth hungry as some...  This list is about Oldsmobile lovers, not 
import
lovers, not ch*vy lovers, not even buick lovers (which ~I~ happen to be, but I
keep those fairly quiet here...)  A lot of "other car bashing" is meant 
somewhat
in jest (except for the che*ies...;) although most of us are quite adamant that
Olds is number one, with no number two...  The rest fall way down in the double
digits, as far as that is concerned...  The occasional cracks here and there 
are
reasonably acceptible, while in good taste, but for the most part should be
avoided like a plague.  

"Rice Burners:"  Jeez what a mess.  Greg asked to give it a rest, and I fully
second that.  Calling each other stupid, etc... give it a rest.  None of us can
be all that dumb, we're on the best list in the world, and supporting the best
cars in the world.  All the rest should be able to go unsaid.  'Nuff said.

This list has passed the 550 mark some time ago, and that's a lot of good folks
supporting a good habit.  It's also a lot of folks to try to keep control of. 
Greg's gonna lose what hair he has left here shortly <g> if things aren't
cleaned up soon.  Much of the senseless postings, and newsgroup style flame 
wars
has prompted some of the best members to leave us, from time to time.  That's
really sad.  Lots of folks I still miss hearing from.  With lots of good things
to add.  Almost tragic, as it were...  Currently, we're averaging well over 100
messages a day, and a depressing majority of them are still posts that have no
reason to be on the list.  The me toos, the private posts, the accidental 
double
posts (don't worry, I'm just as guilty as the next guy) but they all add up. 
And they all build up.  The digest holds some 200 folks, I think.  These 200
people pay triple for every one of our senseless posts.  And the digest folks
are usually there because they don't want to deal with a full mailbox every 
day,
but can't bring themselves to leave.  Yet they get the worst of it when a
senseless post goes through, especially if the entire original post is quoted 
in
the reply.  Folks, these digest members are halfway between members, and
leaving.  Lets not p*ss 'em off any more, OK?  

Our G-body list has been designed to reduce list traffic, in hopes that the
G-body postings can be redirected.  This seems to have helped with the message
bulk, but there's still a long way to go.  If that Rice Burner thread could 
have
been withheld, I think we'd have seen a dramatic reduction in traffic these 
past
few days, a noticable improvement.  I'm hoping to see this list get pulled back
into shape soon, so Greg can finally relax a bit (he's worked ~HARD~ folks, 
lets
give him a break already!) 

With that in mind, I'll make a public plea to ~everybody~ to ask themselves
~before~ they hit that ~send~ button a couple questions:
1.  Who am I writing to?  (Is it going to the right place???)
2.  Does ~everbody~ need to see this?  (~REALLY~, do they?)
3.  Is ~anyone~ going to misinterpret this?  (If so, correct or abort!)
4.  Most important.  Is this "OLDS" related?????  Directly???

And one other detail, if you're interested in the Olds G-body, consider
subscribing to the G-body list, and keep the main list clear of at least one
topic that always fills mailboxes.  Find us at http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

At the bottom of my sig file, I have a FAQ section for the Olds list.  Please,
check it out, too...

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:32:12 EDT
From: "Norm Baier" <nbaier@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: dual quads?

Gary, 

How is your motor set up? Are you running on the street, strictly race 
or street/strip? 

Norm Baier
Woodstock, GA

- ----Original Message Follows----
From:	"Gary Andresen (At Home - Personal e-mail address)" 
<gandresen@home.com>
To:	<oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: RE: dual quads?
Date:	Sun, 18 Oct 1998 07:47:00 -0700
Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

I am running an Offenhauser intake on my 455 with Carter AFB carbs.

Works for me.
=A0
Gary Andresen

'55 Old 88 2-door Hardtop
with 455 Olds and T400
http://www.442.com/andresen.html


- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Dave Cullen
Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 7:43 PM
To: Oldsmobile Mail List
Subject: dual quads?


 Found the following add in a paper that services Ct, Mass, and N.Y. ;

OLDS MANIFOLD, 4 bbl, dual carb setup, made by Offenhauser, $125. (914)
237-0318 before 10pm. Yonkers

Might be a bit overkill for my 307?  :P

Wanna do that 425 up Karl? Can you say, "sluuurrp"?

drc





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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:32:43 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Re: Transmission

joe as always you usually have the answer . thanks a lot for taking the time
to give me a solution. if there was a list member of the month , you would get
my vote.

                                                    thanks
                                                            jim mckeague

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:45:41 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Re: emblem locations/ solution ?

steven
 i can use this emblem info to, ifyou do it please pass it on
                                            thanks
                                                            jim mckeague

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:01:58 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Convertible Well Liner

On my 72 42 convertible the well liner which is behind the rear seat and in
the trunk is worn out. DOes anyone sell thhis piece and what must be done
to replace it? Does this get replaced when the top gets replaced??

Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:42:10 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Seat Hog Rings

On my 72 442 the seats will be re-skinned. The hog rings holding the old
skins, do they have to be cut?  I also will be replacing the foam. Do the
springs have to be replaced?


Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:46:24 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Seat Hog Rings

> On my 72 442 the seats will be re-skinned. The hog rings holding the old
> skins, do they have to be cut?  I also will be replacing the foam. Do the
> springs have to be replaced?

Normally they are cut off.  Hog rings are cheap and plentiful at an
upholstery shop.  The springs MAY need replacing only if they are worn
out or broken.  Check them first.  Should be firm, yet resilient.  9
times out of ten, it's usually the foam that gives out.  Check the
spring cross links too (holds and aligns the springs) for wear and
breakage.  If in doubt, swap em out!

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:09:13 -0400
From: "<GJC> Cutlass IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Quincy Shoot.

Well everyone.

Both the day technical photo shoot and the night brilliance shoot are, as
they say, in the can. I will have them, (it's claimed), next Friday. All
that have requested a shot or 2 will receive them that evening. That is,
barring any Murphy's Law crap.

I believe Quincy's photo's will astound you all. It went splendid. Nope, no
slinky model. There are none around to lend more sheer beauty than Quincy
posed solely tonight.

I was in awe! The photographer went nuts. I think a total of 125 or so pics
were snapped between the Two shoots.

So, off to the H. R. Power tour tomorrow. I'm charged with 9 month of
anticipation in a positive showing tomorrow. If tonight's shoot was any
indication. WOW. I shot using an archway door at my town elementary school.
We spent about One hour there and by the time we rapped it up over 50 people
showed up. This from a town that had gone to sleep. All of which had no fore
knowledge of the project. Nearly all picked their bottom lip up off the
ground. Than preceded to oooo and ahhh and ask questions???? Man it took me
another 30+ min to get out of there.

- ----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom
ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
  
'86 Custom Cutlass IROC-SS = "Quincy"

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:17:30 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts, new

In a message dated 10/17/98 4:14:20 AM EST, Pjolds@aol.com writes:

<< HI THERE, I MAY BE OF SOME HELP TO YOU. I'M A PARTS LOCATOR I SPECIALIZE IN
 THE OLDSMOBILES. DROP A LINE WITH THE PARTS YOU NEED. THANX, PAUL MAIERS >>
Paul,
Am looking for the trunk lock and spring-loaded latch cover for a 75 delta 88
conv. New if possible but I'll take what you've got.
Thanks, 
Bruce

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:12:06 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: intake manifold question

To Randy and the others who gave me advice on how to install a manifold on my
delta 88 350, I thank you. I do however have a slight problem. I purchased an
edelbrock performer #3711 (with EGR),  Although the configuration is pretty
close, there are a couple of extra (threaded) ports. Am I supposed to cap them
off (no caps were supplied) or did I buy the wrong manifold?  I'd be much
obliged if you could h*lp me out of this jam>
tia
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:21:05 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: intake manifold question

> <SNIP>close, there are a couple of extra (threaded) ports. Am I supposed to 
cap them
> off (no caps were supplied) or did I buy the wrong manifold?  I'd be much
> obliged if you could h*lp me out of this jam>

the manifolds come with threaded ports you may or may not need.  cap
accordingly.  You may need to find caps or bolts to fit.  Just make sure
you know which type of threads they are.  i.e. pipe threads for water
jackets, or straight threads for intake runner holes...

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:23:15 -0400
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: intake manifold question

oops, my bad.  intake runner ports are normally pipe thread too. 
mounting bosses usually use straight threads.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:12:31 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: Re: emblem locations

Who is this guy????

GT5726@aol.com wrote:
> 
> then just look at the old fenders...just a JOKE!!!!!!...Im am a smart 
a**...as
> for the Title 4 Title thing...did you have to do a title search to have one?

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:06:11 -0500
From: Shang <shang@wans.net>
Subject: #1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of where or not the engine can be
jacked up high enough in a '70 Cutlass chassis to get access to the #1
rod? Since my engine is goofed, I am going to attempt to do something
that I know better than to do - I am going to just repalce the bearing
on that rod (it developed a knock shortly after my rebuild) to see if I
can limp it along until I finish the 455. I would really rather not have
to pull the engine, but it looks mighty cramped up in there.


Thanks

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:58:22 -0400
From: dk0009@mail.pratt.lib.md.us (Douglas Kitchener)
Subject: '73 Rocket Rescue

{Greg, please post to the Olds list for me when you have a chance, and thanks!}

Howdy, Olds boyz and girlz-

Have just gotten home from rescuing another one... my neighbor just picked up 
a 
'73 Cutlass Supreme for $200!  I've partially adopted it... We drove it 
home... 
it's a 350-4, triple white, originally a Texas car.. some surface rust on RR 
quarter and trailing edge of decklid, backlight needs resealed, rear pkg tray 
is 
"papier mache'", exhaust leak, needs water pump, battery and TLC.  Solid and 
strong tho... you know how they are!  Got a new trans too.  Not a lot of 
options... vinyl top, Super Stocks, AM radio, A/C, and that's most of it.  It 
hadn't been washed since RE Olds was a cadet, but we just did that, fixed all 
the burned-out light blubs and scrubbed the whitewalls and it looks better 
already!  The paint is up enuf (good ol' white!) that a little wax tomorrow 
and 
the thing will be presentable.  Belonged to a series of women owners and 
suffering the ravages of 25 yrs of normal use, but nothing too serious... the 
people he got it from only paid $100 for it 3 years ago, and of course, didn't 
wanna spend the three or 400 dollars that a new battery and water pump would 
have cost them to have a garage do, on a hundred-dollar car... they had plans 
to 
junk it.  Body is solid except for beginnings of a rustout on the RR quarter 
ahead of the wheel, and the leaking around the backlight.

This neighbor knows I'm into Oldses and he's been poking around looking for 
something like this to play around with... so it's probably a keeper, 
especially 
since it dawned on us tonight that because it's 25 years old, he can put 
historic tags on it (rather than regular psgr car tags), which saves you a 
pile 
of money in Maryland, and also exempts you from the notorious state 
inspection, 
which, for some reason, only happens when the car is sold!  (As a regular 
Class 
A passenger car, a car must pass a rigid inspection before it can be tagged... 
you can get temporary tags, but only _one time_ and they're only good for 15 
daze and then you're sunk... Maryland is not a good state for car collectors!)

I'm gonna try and get him to join OCA and the Cutlass Coupes chapter...

Anyway, need some help from yas... I'm pretty familiar with most postwar 
Oldses, 
and know something about the later years of the '73-'77 series... but I have 
little or no info on the '73.  Closest thing I have is a '76 shop manual and 
that's out on loan.  This car has dual exhaust on it... in '72, you could tell 
by the engine code in the VIN whether or not duals were factory equipment... 
does the same hold true for '73?  Is there still a VIN decoder on Bryce's 
page?  
I couldn't find one for '73... VIN of this car is 3J57M3R######... I know this 
much:

  3 = Olds Div
J57 = Cutlass Supreme 2 door (weren't these called Colonnade Coupes, or
      something like that?)
  M = Lansing, I presume...
  3 = '73 model year
  R = Obviously a 350, but does that also tell if it's dual exhaust?

BTW, I haven't looked underneath it to see if it has the factory-style exhaust 
blockoff ala '72 and back 350 cars... did they do this same thing in '73?

This neighbor knows I'm into Olds and he's been poking around looking for 
something like this to play around with... so it's probably a keeper, 
especially 
since it dawned on us that because it's 25 years old he can put historic tags 
on 
it, which saves you a pile of money in Maryland, and also exempts you from the 
notorious state inspection, which, for some reason, only happens when the car 
is 
sold!  (As a regular Class A passenger car, a car must pass a rigid inspection 
before it can be tagged... you can get temporary tags, but only _one time_ and 
they're only good for 15 daze and then you're sunk... Maryland is not a good 
state for car collectors!

Please reply privately, I'm not on the list just now...

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Doug Kitchener
dk0009@mail.pratt.lib.md.us

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:02:53 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

>WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    I personally like to see the
>responses of others to a post.

Please tell me how this.....

>Hey!  I live in Hilltown, about twenty minutes from Warminster.  You
>don't live there anymore?

....is something that has to be shared with all of us? And with a subject
line carried over from a previous post, on a matter that may be too
interesting to delete without reading first?

Spare me.

drc

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:06:51 EDT
From: JDess@aol.com
Subject: Re: Convertible Well Liner

Hi,
  I just replacd the top on my 72 convert.  The well liner was replaced also
(at extra cost).  The job turned out great.
 Joe Dessel

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:24:54 EDT
From: CRuper1@aol.com
Subject: Leaving the list for now...

Well guys, as much as I hate to do it, I'm uns*bscribing from the list.  I
have a lot of things going on in the next few days (including me being out of
town fro two days) so I'm going to sign off for now.  I'm also in a quandary
in terms of what I will do in a week, or so when things slow down.  With the
quantity of messages on this list, and my growing list of things I need to do
around here, I think I'll be giving the G-body list a try (since my only car
is an '81 Cutlass).

If anybody needs to contact me, please do so at my usual address...
CRuper1@aol.com

If I stay on the other list, and don't re-sub. here...  I just want to say a
quick thanks to Greg, for starting the list, and putting up with all the
problems the list can bring unto him.  And also to all the list members.  I've
gained a lot of information from everyone, and it's been great talking cars
(especially Oldsmobiles..).

Take care all,
Chris Ruper

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:28:14 EDT
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Practical OLDS Majic....

      I got conned into going to see the new movie Practical Majic, the movie
was kinda sappy, but it did have a few scences of a nice looking 70 or 71
Supreme convertiable. The first shot of the car was from over the driver
shoulder, driving at night. I could tell by the round knobs on the front of
the radio that it was at least an Oldsmobile ( or at least i hoped the movie
would have some kinda treat for me too see).   Just a comment..........SCOTT

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Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:07:48 -0400
From: Gary Standiford <phred@fwi.com>
Subject: Re: enough already & list traffic

Two things to say.

First, thank you Greg. I was getting very tired of hitting the delete
key.

Second, (Olds content here) I'm getting ready to do my first project
car. She's a '69
Cutlass S Convertible, and I have garnered a significant amount of
information that I can use by receiving the "reply to"s and following
the threads. If list members responded to the originator of the message,
I wouldn't have 100+ messages on my hard drive to reference when I
wanted to. Granted, some messages should be sent direct to the
individual, but that can easily be remedied by everyone considering what
the e-mail is about and whether the entire list needs to see the message
or not. And my apologies for the long message.

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:43:08 -0400
From: Bill <dickinson@skow.net>
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

You said it Ray.
The rest of you ever heard of delete??

oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca wrote:

> I agree that replies should be sent to the list, and i'd like to add
> another reason.
>
> My old email system where I used to work would not allow me to repply to
> someome privately even if I wanted to.  Without going into detail, there
> was no way for me to get the person's address unless he had it somewhere
> in the post; it did not appear anywhere else!  My system administrator
> forwarded all messages to me, so they were considered to all be from one
> address.  Also when I hit the reply option, my posts would get sent to
> Greg privately, remember ray.costanzo@firstunion.com?  What a pain in the
> rear that was...  So, people at the mercy of inferior systems should also
> be considered.  But also, who cares if there are a lot of posts?  That's
> what we're here to do.  We can ask questions, offer advice, relate
> stories, and send meaningless jokes and statements if we like.  At least
> I believe it should be that way.  We're not curing cancer here, we're
> talking about cars on our friggin computers.
>
> Also, if there are lurkers who don't like the volume, I would gladly
> forward any questions you may come across if y'all decide to uns*bscribe.
>  We're all willing to help in any way we can, but speaking like a
> textbook all the time will kill the list's id.
>
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass
> Bucks County, PA
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:52:17 EDT
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: Big Day For ME

    Just to let everyone know....i recently had my 16th birthday on October 4.
I got my liscense last tuesday. So i am now officially a liscensed driver in
the state of Ohio. Right now im toolin around in a 80 Ch*vy Malibu that is my
winter beater. By the end of next week though (olds content here), ill have my
67 cutlass convertible to drive until the first snow. I cant wait!!!!! the car
is being painted right now but unfortunatly it blew a transmission line being
backed off the trailer. No biggie. Cant wait though.

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:56:56 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Open letter about list traffic

On Sunday, October 18, 1998 12:43 AM, Bill [SMTP:dickinson@skow.net] wrote:
> You said it Ray.
> The rest of you ever heard of delete??

The big problem with posting frivolous e-mail, like Charley said, is the 
digest folks.  Sure, we 
could send out bunches of me-too posts and hey-where-do-you-live posts.  
Unless you're an 
established parts dealer (like Jim Chermack), it's no one's business where you 
live *except* for 
the buyer/seller of the certain part(s).

I think many of the issues that arise on the management/administration of this 
list is to 
accommodate the digest members.  For example Ray's whole dadgum post was 
included in the reply (as 
well as his sig *and* Juno's sig) just to say, "you said it Ray".  Certainly, 
none of us real-time 
members read through those four lines that Juno puts there, but for the digest 
members, 4 lines 
times probably 40 posts per day from free e-mail subscribers equals 160 lines 
of unrelated text. 
 Of course these folks can't keep their mail system from attaching this lines 
at the bottom of the 
list, but one certainly *doesn't* have to include them in your reply.  The 
only text I included in 
*this* e-mail is the sender's e-mail address (in case someone would like to 
e-mail him/her a 
private reply) and the relevant text.

If list traffic were reduced by 25% or so, life would be much better for the 
digest folks.  Not 
only would their e-mail be faster to download, but they wouldn't have to wade 
through lots of posts 
that us real-time members might nonchalantly delete.  Greg's right...list 
traffic probably *does* 
need reducing.  For the 3 or so years that *I've* been on this list, Greg's 
done a super job of 
managing a list that was home to anywhere from 100 to 500 Olds fanatics, 
worldwide.  We're trying 
hard to mimic Greg's actions on the G-body list, just because we think he's 
done a fine job 
managing *this* one.  Thanks for the bandwidth...

Jason Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-Mail: jadcock@vt.edu
Web: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:23:27 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: #1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?

At 10:06 PM 10/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone have first hand knowledge of where or not the engine can be
>jacked up high enough in a '70 Cutlass chassis to get access to the #1
>rod? Since my engine is goofed, I am going to attempt to do something
>that I know better than to do - I am going to just repalce the bearing
>on that rod (it developed a knock shortly after my rebuild) to see if I
>can limp it along until I finish the 455. I would really rather not have
>to pull the engine, but it looks mighty cramped up in there.
>
>
>
At least on a '66 chassis (with a small clock)
it is possible to do it. You need to lift the engine quite a bit,
you might have to remove the distributor for cleraance.

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:34:38 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: #1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of where or not the engine can be
jacked up high enough in a '70 Cutlass chassis to get access to the #1
rod?
________

Yes you can (Todd Morris recently pulled the oil pan with the engine in the
car), but in my opinion, by the time you get the oil pan off, you're only a
couple of bolts away from having the engine out anyway.  I think one of the
first steps in the oil pan removal sequence is "Remove transmission".

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:52:24 +0000
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: #1 Rod - Can I get to it while the motor is in the car?

>Yes you can (Todd Morris recently pulled the oil pan with the engine in the
>car), but in my opinion, by the time you get the oil pan off, you're only a
>couple of bolts away from having the engine out anyway.  I think one of the
>first steps in the oil pan removal sequence is "Remove transmission".
>

When I dropped a 5/16" socket in the engine (did I just admit that?)
I managed to get the oil pan off with the engine in the car, without 
taking the tranny off. the key is that the #1 cylinder must be in the
 up position, this gives you the clearance to get the pan out after you 
drop it.

the hardest part it getting it back on :(
I will never do it again, it was a 4 hour job.
I think it took me an hour to pull out my 330.

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:46:53 -0600
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: TRW Variable Rate Coil Springs

Well, got those TRW springs and Gabriel VST shocks on my Regency (rear).
WOW, what a difference.  A little stiffer ride, much, much smoother and
stable.  Just a great combo.  I can't wait to do the fronts, I think they
will be good.  Currently they are stock springs with Monro Sensatrack
shocks.  I will just replace the springs.  Any suggestions.  I guess I could
go with TRWs again.  What I want is the stiffest spring the front will take,
but not to lift the car up too much.  The rear springs I ordered were for
the  '77-79 Custom Cruiser w/403/th400, HD cooling and tow package.  I got
the stiffest ones they had.  Had the guy compare the load difference for CC
and the 98, and the CC ones were stiffer, so I got them.


igor455@home.com
Igor Todorovic

1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23 posi)
1981 Regency 98 (307/2004t/propane)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:19:29 -0400
From: Toby Blom <floridarealtor@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Olds Ads

Guys / Gals, I'm Tired, and its late.....but.....
just came home from a local event in Ft.Lauderdale, and managed to by
125 Olds ads ( full page ) mounted in cardboard, in plastic bags....,
cost me a cutlass and a half....
got from 1943 to 1973, lots of toronado ads....
everything in mint condition

If you want one, mail me wath youre lookng for, and I'll check
$ $7.00 pr. ad, including regular postage.
Give me a week, and I'll post what I have

Toby

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:55:31 -0600
From: "Igor T. '81 455DRB" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: 455 '80's Olds Custom Cruiser

Man, I did it again.  I had another vision.  I don't know what it is with me
and big cars.  Delta, Regency now Custom Cruiser.  Drove by one Custom
Cruiser for sale ('80s, '81 I think), white, nice paint job and tinted
windows.  The paint job appeared to be brand new, no molding or anything on
yet.  So this is what I thought:

Buy the car
Build a good 455 (for propane)
Get a built 200-4r or 700-r4, 12 inch converter
some 3.73 gears in a 8.5 " posi
put headers (good luck finding some, I could not for my '81 Delta)
dual 2.5" pipes, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers, balancer tube
dual tailpipes coming out just after the rear end on each side (chrome tip
of course)
then drive as a sleeper for a few weeks, embarrass Camaros and 5.0s
now, get a 1" lower stiff suspension, awesome shocks, polyurethane bushings,
TA front sway bar, stock rear sway of a F-41 Delta
set of 16 x 10s and 16 x 8s kick-but wheels
275 tires for back, 255 for front
upgrade brakes, disks in back
leave its superclean lines (on this one)
decent stereo, super loud and mean horn (just in case)
good interior (this one looked great, gray in color)
Grant steering wheel
....the rest for you to add

The reason why I said propane is that my experience with this fuel is great
(my '81 Regency)  It is 1/2 the price of regular here, prolongs engine life,
passes any emissions, if build high-compression, its 105 octane rating
great, so excellent power can be made, burns clean and cool, much reduced
maintenance, and so on.  Oil can last long time and be good (had mine in the
Regency for over 10,000 miles, and changing it today.  Plugs almost never
need changing.  Super clean.  Negative, well can't really park in garage.
That is all.  It is my belief that when you build an engine, if you build it
for propane, run a good mixer (like a good carb) and same power can be made
as for a gas engine, only at a lot lower price.  I wish I went this way on
my Delta.  Think about it, my Regency gets 20-24 mpg on highway, depending
on speed/road, but never below 70 mph.  That is like 50 mpg on fuel.  (here
propane .21 cents per litre, regular fuel .50 cents)  Can't ever beat that
on a car of that size and comfort.  My Regency has every option, so it is
not light either.  This Custom Cruiser would make one hell of a high-way
ride and/or camping vehicle or tow vehicle.  I wish.  The truth is, I could
afford the car, get a 455 and half-way through engine machining and parts I
would be broke.  Not even done my Delta yet, with similar modifications.
Some day my friends, some day.  I think someone should make a kick-ass Olds
Wagon to rip apart some Chevys and Fords.  PLEASE. Igor.

Igor Todorovic

1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23 posi)
1981 Regency 98 (307/2004t/propane)
1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

igor455@home.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:48:41 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: rockingham et finals

anyone from the list going to the finals it is only 1/8 mile.I an going
going to run in sportsman, I have been running street legal but have to
run in sportsman, I guess the olds is to fast for street legal in the
1/8 for rockingham. the rules seem to change at different tracks .car
runs 7.30s in 1/8 but cut off is 7.50 for dot at rockingham so
Gainesville moved me to sportsman .I guess  we go with the flow   Butch
68  442  post

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:50:53 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

I am with you  I like to hear from all ..   Butch

GT5726@aol.com wrote:

> WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    I personally like to see the
> responses of others to a post. If everyone relpies directly to a postee, then
> the theard stops at that point! (and curious others that like to learn from
> others suggestions, like myself, get left out in the cold)

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:51:37 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Re: Daytona under the lights, 8:00

Tooooo  bad

Ray Costanzo wrote:

> Don't forget!  TNN
> Let's see Earnhardt get this one too!
>
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass
> Bucks County, PA
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:19:01 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: turbo 400 needed

List,

            I am delierb....deleeberat........thinking about using a  short
shaft TH400 for part
of my winter project.  If anyone has one in the PA-NJ area please get back
to me.


Tanks
The General           patton@comcat.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:53:35 -0400
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Convertible Well Liner

It's sold by Fusick in Conn.  You can Email them at dj442@ix.netcom.com  and
yes, it's best done in conjunction with the top.  Peter.

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:54:01 -0400
From: dk0009@mail.pratt.lib.md.us (Douglas Kitchener)
Subject: '73 Rocket Rescue, Part II

Greg, once again for the Olds list, if you would, and thanks!

Hey, Olds list-

When I logged out last night after sending the original post about the '73 
Cutlass my neighbor just bought, I did a little research in my _'72_ shop 
manual.

Turns out that I made an error in my VIN decoding (which was done from [a 
failing] memory!)... the car's VIN is 3J57M3R.

At least some of the engine coding appears to have carried over from '72 to 
'73, 
because the M is in the engine code position, and for '72 at least, designates 
a 
350/4 with dual exhausts (which is what this car has).  The second 3 is for 
model year '73, and the R is the plant code, which turns out to be Arlington 
Texas... so it looks pretty certain that this is a factory dual-exhaust car, 
which I think may be kinda unusual!

So, I guess I answered my own question!  :)

Regards,

Doug Kitchener

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:08:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: '73 Rocket Rescue (fwd)

Doug Kitchener asked me to pass this along. Turns out he later figured out
that this is in fact a factory dual-exhaust car, which is one of the
questions he was asking here.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Douglas Kitchener <dk0009@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
Subject: '73 Rocket Rescue

Howdy, Olds boyz and girlz-

Have just gotten home from rescuing another one... my neighbor just picked
up a '73 Cutlass Supreme for $200!  I've partially adopted it... We drove
it home... it's a 350-4, triple white, originally a Texas car.. some
surface rust on RR quarter and trailing edge of decklid, backlight needs
resealed, rear pkg tray is "papier mache'", exhaust leak, needs water
pump, battery and TLC.  Solid and strong tho... you know how they are! 
Got a new trans too.  Not a lot of options... vinyl top, Super Stocks, AM
radio, A/C, and that's most of it.  It hadn't been washed since RE Olds
was a cadet, but we just did that, fixed all the burned-out light blubs
and scrubbed the whitewalls and it looks better already!  The paint is up
enuf (good ol' white!) that a little wax tomorrow and the thing will be
presentable.  Belonged to a series of women owners and suffering the
ravages of 25 yrs of normal use, but nothing too serious... the people he
got it from only paid $100 for it 3 years ago, and of course, didn't wanna
spend the three or 400 dollars that a new battery and water pump would
have cost them to have a garage do, on a hundred-dollar car... they had
plans to junk it.  Body is solid except for beginnings of a rustout on the
RR quarter ahead of the wheel, and the leaking around the backlight. 

This neighbor knows I'm into Oldses and he's been poking around looking
for something like this to play around with... so it's probably a keeper,
especially since it dawned on us tonight that because it's 25 years old,
he can put historic tags on it (rather than regular psgr car tags), which
saves you a pile of money in Maryland, and also exempts you from the
notorious state inspection, which, for some reason, only happens when the
car is sold!  (As a regular Class A passenger car, a car must pass a rigid
inspection before it can be tagged... you can get temporary tags, but only
_one time_ and they're only good for 15 daze and then you're sunk...
Maryland is not a good state for car collectors!) 

I'm gonna try and get him to join OCA and the Cutlass Coupes chapter...

Anyway, need some h*lp from yas... I'm pretty familiar with most postwar
Oldses, and know something about the later years of the '73-'77 series...
but I have little or no info on the '73.  Closest thing I have is a '76
shop manual and that's out on loan.  This car has dual exhaust on it... in
'72, you could tell by the engine code in the VIN whether or not duals
were factory equipment... does the same hold true for '73?  Is there still
a VIN decoder on Bryce's page?  I couldn't find one for '73... VIN of this
car is 3J57M3R######... I know this much: 

  3 = Olds Div
J57 = Cutlass Supreme 2 door (weren't these called Colonnade Coupes, or
      something like that?)
  M = Lansing, I presume...
  3 = '73 model year
  R = Obviously a 350, but does that also tell if it's dual exhaust?

BTW, I haven't looked underneath it to see if it has the factory-style
exhaust blockoff ala '72 and back 350 cars... did they do this same thing
in '73? 

Please reply privately, I'm not on the list just now...

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Doug Kitchener
dk0009@mail.pratt.lib.md.us

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:22:56 -0700
From: gary snyder <gary@saaborama.com>
Subject: thanks

unsubscribe oldsmobile gary@saaborama.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:51:12 -0500
From: <barbw@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

I am one of the generally silent members of the list.  Unless I am able to 
provide
the sender with the info he or she is seeking, I don't respond, altho do enjoy 
(and
have learned things from) reading the posts even if some of them are responses 
to
responses.

One member wrote that it is no one's business where anyone lives.  If this 
list was
strictly a "how to fix that particular mechanical problem on your car" list, 
that
would very much be true.  However, in addition to repairing vehicles, members
frequently buy, sell, trade and transport vehicles and parts as well as attend 
auto
related events throughout the entire U.S. as well as in some other countries.  
That
being the case, knowing if there are members in particular cities or states has
relevence.

In order to reduce list traffic, I would like to suggest that if it is not
administratively difficult to do so, a membership directory of some type be
created.  If a member has a question that relates to a specific state or to a
problem or topic previously raised by a specific member, a directory search 
may be
done by name or state of residence to obtain the desired e-mail address(es).

Example 1, a member recently inquired if anyone on the list lived in Arizona.  
I
live in Arizona and had a search mechanism been available,  he would have been 
able
to obtain the info he needed to contact me directly via e-mail, his questions 
would
have been presented during that first e-mail, he could have received the
information he needed faster and the other 99.99% of the membership who don't 
live
in Arizona would never have had to read or delete that message unless no one 
on the
list lived anywhere near Arizona.

Example 2:  If a member recollects that someone on the list named Barb once 
had a
question, problem, solution, information about, whatever, regarding something 
of
importance to that member, a search of the directory for anyone named Barb 
would
have, once again, provided that member with the needed information without
bothering the rest of the people on the list.

Just some food for thought.

Barb


B. Vosburgh wrote:

> I am with you  I like to hear from all ..   Butch
>
> GT5726@aol.com wrote:
>
> > WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    I personally like to see the
> > responses of others to a post. If everyone relpies directly to a postee, 
then
> > the theard stops at that point! (and curious others that like to learn from
> > others suggestions, like myself, get left out in the cold)

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:57:32 EDT
From: REman57@aol.com
Subject: 442 convert

i am looking to obtain a 64-72 442 convertible. i have a 1994 ford f-150
flareside to
trade . truck is loaded and mint ( 4x4,auto , a/c, 45k miles) truck is worth
14-15k.
am looking for car of the same value. NO PROJECTS PLEASE!!!
email at RE man57@aol.com or call (508) 559-0659

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:17:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Douglas J Harkema" <harkema2@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: need a horn button

Hi

I'm looking for a black sport steering wheel horn button

Anyone got one for sale?
How Much?

The other day at the gas staion A 87 salon pulls up and I ask is it for sale.
Anyway she says soon

I gave her my number
Hope she calls

Blue SSIII T-tops 307 full power  135,000 Miles
Anyone have an idea what the car is worth?

Thanks
Doug

70 CS convert

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Updates...and a message :)

Hello, 
   Just wanted some opinions here....and to let you know if you're
interested...I've updated my main page, and the Topless pages. You can
now hear what Topless sounds like and what the tires sound like
<G>...~NO~ powerbraking on this one...just put to the floor :) There
is also a wav file for the "bruise"...my 84 on it's page.....one day
I'll add the wav for the wagon...even though it still has a V-6, the
Flowmaster still sounds good :)
   Also, if anyone wants to help me up date the "burnout" page...I
need lotsa A & G-bodys....and the rest of you too. :)And for you guys
on the main list reading this, I still want yours, too.....I miss
ya'll, I'm still there, just not as active,as I've been kinda busy as
of late.
    If anyone needs me, my address is the same :)
          Later,


==
John McJunkin ( The Sman ) mailto:super442@yahoo.com  
  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts    
_________________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:49:17 EDT
From: Ondacouch@aol.com
Subject: Unsubscribe

Unsubscribe oldsmobile

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:21:54 +0000
From: "Joe Gerschutz" <gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu>
Subject: intake manifold

On the subject of intake manifolds, do those Edelbrock Performer & 
Performer RPM intakes help all that much?  Do they require a tweaked 
cam to really help any?  How about other brands?  Any experience out 
there with the best setup for a 350? Thanks.

Joe
82 CSC

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:59 -0400
From: Ted Rollins <trollins@rfci.net>
Subject: Re: 66 cutlass

Ray, I'm in the western part of North Carolina, its got one hell of a
heater. The car is drove at least three times a week, I also have a 72
cutlass and a 63 chevy pickup that I drive they all have tags and
insurance on them so I need to get rid of one of them.
The car is a 2dr post 330cid engine 4bbl carb power steering, bucket
seats automatic trans.
Thanks,
Ted Rollins

Ray Costanzo wrote:

> Where are you?  Does it run and have heat?
>
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass
> Bucks County, PA
>
> On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:29:46 -0400 Ted Rollins <trollins@rfci.net>
> writes:
> >Selling my 66 Cutlass=$800.00
> >
> >
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:52:45 -0700
From: "Dee St. Jean" <the.saints@budsters.com>
Subject: Olds 1950 88 4 door

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 17:59:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: '58 Project Car FS

This came to me, know nothing about it, but I'm passing it along...
respond to jnorris@azalea.net if interested.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: john norris <jnorris@azalea.net>
Subject: project car 
 
Dear Greg, Sorry to be such a pain. I sent an e-mail about wantining to
sell a'58 olds 'project 'car.  I'm new to all this. Anyway I would like
the heading to read  ''58 olds project for sale' or something along
those lines.  Don't know, whatever you think. Have a rusty car getting
rustier I would like to get rid of. The neighbor kids are using it for
target practice. I'm sure there must be someone out there that has the
same dream my son did 10 yrs. ago when he bought it!  Thanks for all
your help. It amazes me all the e-mail I have been getting(love e-mail)
but unfortunatly none have been about wanting to buy the car.   HAVE A
GREAT WEEK-END & THANKS AGAIN    Colleen

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:13:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: List Traffic & Reply-to's

About a week ago I asked the question whether I should change the default
for replies from going to the list to the sender. I received about 40
private responses. It was about evenly split, with the no-change option
getting 2 or 3 more votes than the change option. So I've decided to not
change it.

That said, I am PLEADING with members to please, please limit the list
traffic here. There is far too much unnecessary posting and quoting. I
don't have a problem with people asking questions (even ones some might
consider dumb) or posting stories. But I do have a problem with "me too"
messages or one-line comments. And then, of course, there is the issue of
buying things and seeing the entire transaction here on the list. C'mon,
folks! We don't want to see that! TAKE IT PRIVATE.

This is about as strong a statement as I can make on the subject short of
tossing people. I may have to change the list guidelines to reduce
unecessary traffic and then enforce a much tighter set of rules, but I
really would hate to do that. I need your cooperation. Please think before
you post.

Thanks!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 17:56:19 +0100
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: I'm back.

Did I miss anything?

Olds content: Fired up The Unit this weekend. I was surprised at how
quickly it revs up considering it's only a 2bbl with a stock cam. The
305 4bbl in the Crapiece takes forever to rev up compared to The Unit.

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Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
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1975 Cutlass S Hardtop Coupe (250 L-6 1bbl) "parts car"
1973 Cutlass Supreme Hardtop Coupe (350 V-8 4bbl) "The Oldsmoslow"
1970 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe (350 V-8 2bbl) "The Unit"
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4bbl) "The Blue Taxi"
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http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:59:00 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic

I agree, 
I only know about Oldsmobiles I own, it is interesting to read some of the
replies concerning other models and problems, I was looking for a grille
and I screwed and replied to the list, my fault, will try to keep that off
of the list in the future. Totally direct posting WILL clean up the list,
it will also make it BORING!  I will make a commitment to keep my own
redundant replies and me toos off of the list and if everyone will make the
same commitment the list will heal itself! One persons opinion only, no
flames intended or implied.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                  


> From: GT5726@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Open letter about list traffic
> Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 5:57 PM
> 
> WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    I personally like to see the
> responses of others to a post. If everyone relpies directly to a postee,
then
> the theard stops at that point! (and curious others that like to learn
from
> others suggestions, like myself, get left out in the cold)

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:12:45 -0400
From: "person" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Parts Interchange

Does anybody have a parts interchange manual for '69 - '70 Ninety-Eight???
Do most parts interchange between those years?
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'69 Olds Ninety-Eight "Topless Bubba"
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 17:21:46 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: List

Sorry, I intended to make this statement on the other list, I don't save
email to hard drive unless I intend to refer to them later, throw them away
if they bother you, my old Apple lle had a delete key! Use it.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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