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oldsmobile-digest    Wednesday, November 11 1998    Volume 01 : Number 1598



Re: Web page up!!!
Re: Insurance
Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
Re: Holiday
Re: Insurance
Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
Uneven Rear
Re: Holiday, non Olds, bear with us please
Re: DeskTop Dyno
ADMIN Re: DeskTop Dyno
Why am I Blue?
Fw: Holiday, non Olds, bear with us please
Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
Re: TBI
4sale non olds
Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
Parts
Regal hood/spoiler on Cutlass?
Re: Uneven Rear
Desktop Dyno
Olds List Centennial Video
Re: Desktop Dyno
Re: Hurst Olds Vista Cruiser?
RE: Interior Painting
Re: November JWO mystery solved...
Re: Hurst Olds Vista Cruiser?
Re: Uneven Rear
decoding
Re: Uneven Rear
RE: Value of 1962 Star Fire Convert.
Re: ADMIN Re: DeskTop Dyno
Re: Interior Painting
Re: Olds Ads
UNBOUNCE: Value of '62 Starfire Convert?
UNBOUNCE: '85 Cutlass Parts FS
Re: ADMIN Re: DeskTop Dyno
Re: TBI
Re: UNBOUNCE: '85 Cutlass Parts FS
cat converter
last night's 455 teardown /  Cam Question
Re: decoding
Re: TBI
Re: no heat
Re: no heat
Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:52:13 -0500
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Web page up!!!

>> > Greetings olds heads.
>> >
>> > I finaly got a page up :-) its just for you gays!
>>
>> Well, I'm not gay, but what the heck... I'll go check it out anyway... ;)
>
>Heh heh...  Must be a loosely translated shorthand combination between guys
and
>gals...   Wait, I guess that makes a little too much sense.....  ;)
>
>That car is just ~way~ too cool!!!


That observation Charlie, is ~way~ too cool to!!!!
ROTFLMAO
==============================================
Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
==============================================

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:49:37 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Insurance

The odds that they will check numbers is very long, indeed.  The odds they
are going to inquire, longer still.  The odds they give a flying rat's @ss,
longer yet.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
To: Oldsmobile E-mail Ring <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:32 AM
Subject: Insurance


>I really hate to bother the list with this whole insurance bit again,
>I am sorry. So, please e-mail any responses privately. I was wondering
>if insurance companies are going to consider my car less valuable
>since it is a 69 but it has a 70 engine in it. I talked to the agent
>yesterday and found out on where they were coming up with the $2,000
>value they have on the car. That is book value of a car that has never
>been touched since 69! So, he told me that now I have to prove that
>the car was just redone. (Thank god I kept ALL the receipts!) But, as
>I was going through this, I came across the ones from when I had the
>block baked and the cylinders honed and it says that it was on a 70
>Olds 350. This brought fear into me thinking that they are going to
>see that and say that since my engine isn't the original, the car
>isn't worth anything. Can someone out there set my mind at ease?
>
>Thanks,
>Del
>
>
>
>
>==
>Rock-Man's Page
>http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
>rockman20@yahoo.com
>1986 Honda Accord DX
>1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
>1981 John Deer Snowmobile
>197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:52:57 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

Back in the OLD days (Hack, Cough) we used to wire them open with a coat
hanger so they wouldn't restrict exhaust flow.  The wealthier among us would
weld them open.  Someone pass me a fresh Depends.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor??? Hmm . . .


>In the OLDs days, we called them heat risers, only happens on REAL dual
>exhausts. Bi Metal spring on right hand exhaust manifold connected to
>restrictor plate, works just like a mechanical choke, much more
>sophisticated nowadays.
>Lou Biggs
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>
>
>----------
>> From: DonziKel@aol.com
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
>> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 11:05 PM
>>
>> My 1966 CUtlass does the same thing. When you start it, only steam comes
>out
>> of the left pipe. After running for about 10 minutes, both pipes are
>steaming.
>> My dads 68 CUtlass does it, my moms Chrysler does it (318 2bbl :P) and my
>dads
>> chevelle does it. My friends Trans Am does it too, so yeah, its stock i'd
>say.
>> Kelly Erickson
>> 1966 CUtlass, 54 Super 88, soon to have a 66 4-4-2 with a 455:)
>> www.angelfire.com/wa/Olds442z/index.html

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:59:46 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Holiday

Semper Fi Lou.  Everyone in my shop has at least one S.E. Asia tour of duty
under his belt.  No R.E.M.F.'s, either.  All combat vets.  It's a dangerous
place for a liberal.  Peter, aka, it wouldn't do for me to be in charge boy.
We'll lift a glass to the brothers tomorrow.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: Olds List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 6:33 PM
Subject: Holiday


>Everyone have a good one, one day off in the middle of the week is nice,
>Should do this every week. Any vets out there, welcome home brothers! Any
>Vets out there, welcome home brothers!
>Lou Biggs
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>
>PS Andy, not to belabor the thread on taillights sockets, just sharing my
>mess ups. Crimping is like my golf game, no matter what the tools at hand,
>it still sucks.
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:22:34 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Insurance

Del,
I hired an attorney on one of these deals, percentage only. Still, took
almost four years to settle, came out OK, but 4 years. Couldn't fix the car
until suit was over, was it worth it? Still don't know in my own mind. Very
mixed emotions. Peter is right, they probably won't check, don't volunteer
ANY info, let them find out, bet they don't. they may know the law, don't
know cars, which is great.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Insurance
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:49 PM
> 
> The odds that they will check numbers is very long, indeed.  The odds
they
> are going to inquire, longer still.  The odds they give a flying rat's
@ss,
> longer yet.  Peter.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
> To: Oldsmobile E-mail Ring <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:32 AM
> Subject: Insurance
(snip)
 >since it is a 69 but it has a 70 engine in it. I talked to the agent
> >yesterday and found out on where they were coming up with the $2,000
> >value they have on the car. That is book value of a car that has never
> >been touched since 69! 
> >Del

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:26:12 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

Peter, 
not weld, braze. (hack, cough), you must have been rich, we couldn't afford
coat hangers, just broke the spring off with pliers.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> Back in the OLD days (Hack, Cough) we used to wire them open with a coat
> hanger so they wouldn't restrict exhaust flow.  The wealthier among us
would
> weld them open.  Someone pass me a fresh Depends.  Peter.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor??? Hmm . . .
> 
> 
> >In the OLDs days, we called them heat risers, only happens on REAL dual
> >exhausts. Bi Metal spring on right hand exhaust manifold connected to
> >restrictor plate, works just like a mechanical choke, much more
> >sophisticated nowadays.
> >Lou Biggs

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:33:35 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

Rich, hell!  Anyone in my neck of the woods with two chickens was called a
rancher!  We got our hangers from scavenging from garbage cans at the curb.
Had to cut them short in our teeth.  Drove my '55 Super 88 Holiday Coupe to
school in the snow barefoot.  Uphill both ways.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor??? Hmm . . .


>Peter,
>not weld, braze. (hack, cough), you must have been rich, we couldn't afford
>coat hangers, just broke the spring off with pliers.
>Lou Biggs
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>----------
>> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
>> Back in the OLD days (Hack, Cough) we used to wire them open with a coat
>> hanger so they wouldn't restrict exhaust flow.  The wealthier among us
>would
>> weld them open.  Someone pass me a fresh Depends.  Peter.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor??? Hmm . . .
>>
>>
>> >In the OLDs days, we called them heat risers, only happens on REAL dual
>> >exhausts. Bi Metal spring on right hand exhaust manifold connected to
>> >restrictor plate, works just like a mechanical choke, much more
>> >sophisticated nowadays.
>> >Lou Biggs
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:40:59 EST
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Uneven Rear

I finally got the Rallye on the ground sitting on all four wheels, but I have
a problem. The driver side rear sits approx. one inch lower than the passenger
side. The front end is fine. Here is what I have; new air shocks, but I have
not replaced the springs. Could it be the springs? Does anyone have any idea
where to look. The car was sitting on jack stands for about a year. I don't
want to have to put new springs in, but I might have to.
Thanks,
Jim McKeague
'70 Rallye 350
'70 Cutlass W31

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:44:06 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Holiday, non Olds, bear with us please

Peter, 
Don't tell me you were a jar head, I was a Corpsman, had to pick up all you
assholes after you started some shit way out country where you shouldn't
have been. Buttheads shot at me just trying to help, had a half inch plate
in the "Huey" that I sat on, screw sitting on you helmet, hurt your ass and
was zero protection. First thing I acquired was an M-16 with a bunch of
banana clips, (30 per), sprayed the tree line and ran away like hell! 
Coward I am, scared the piss out of me. I'll lift a glass with you guys,
will hang out the P.O.W. flag tomorrow.
Lou                                                                        
               ---------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Holiday
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:59 PM
> 
> Semper Fi Lou.  Everyone in my shop has at least one S.E. Asia tour of
duty
> under his belt.  No R.E.M.F.'s, either.  All combat vets.  It's a
dangerous
> place for a liberal.  Peter, aka, it wouldn't do for me to be in charge
boy.
> We'll lift a glass to the brothers tomorrow.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:42:35 -0800 (PST)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DeskTop Dyno

- ---GT5726@aol.com wrote:
>
>      Igor, I just recieved a cataloge with DeskTopDyno in it for
sale...price
> was 39.95 US. Company is called...

- ----Hi Gang,
          I've got the Desktop Dyno, if any one wants it hit me
privately and I can send it you.
                    Later,
==
John McJunkin ( The Sman ) mailto:super442@yahoo.com  
  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts    
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:06:03 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN Re: DeskTop Dyno

Please be advised that the Olds list is not to be a vehicle for the
distribution of unauthorized software. Since it violates a number of laws
and/or agreements it is not the policy of this list to allow bootleg
software to be distributed. Please do not use the list for this purpose. 


Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:13:41 -0500
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Why am I Blue?

????????.  What do you mean "blue".  I just got a new computer so maybe
something is screwed.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ray Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>


    Hey Igor,
    You got some new fancy font setup or something?  Why am I blue?

Igor,
You have your HTML turned on. If you're using Microsoft Outlook Express
(probable,since their IE 4.x is usually set up as the default with Windows
95/98).
Go to "Tools, Options, Send" and check the "plain text" box instead of the
HTML box which is the default.
In the same window, there is a list of boxes at the bottom. Uncheck the box
that says "reply to messages in the format in whiich they are sent".
Ray, you need to uncheck this box too. That's why you are "blue" :-)
Olds content.
My 69 Cutlass is being moved to Florida (from Indiana), on Dec 1. on the
same truck as the household goods. The low quote moving company is only
charging my company $995 extra for the car.
It would probably be cheaper to ship it separately but since I'm not paying,
what the heck.
==============================================
Mick Gillespie
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
==============================================

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:09:08 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Fw: Holiday, non Olds, bear with us please

- -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Holiday, non Olds, bear with us please


>Semper Fi - Do or Die.  Yeah, I was up country where I didn't belong.
First
>thing I got was an AK.  M-16 wasn't worth a flip if it got dirty.  "Click"
>is a very bad sound to hear when you've got a bad guy in your sights.  I'm
>very pleased I didn't require your professional services, and equally
>pleased you got to return, also.  Almost 56,000 did not.  I'll lift a glass
>tomorrow at 11:11 am, and think of you and all the ace boon coons that have
>gone.  Peter.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 7:44 PM
>Subject: Re: Holiday, non Olds, bear with us please
>
>
>>Peter,
>>Don't tell me you were a jar head, I was a Corpsman, had to pick up all
you
>>assholes after you started some shit way out country where you shouldn't
>>have been. Buttheads shot at me just trying to help, had a half inch plate
>>in the "Huey" that I sat on, screw sitting on you helmet, hurt your ass
and
>>was zero protection. First thing I acquired was an M-16 with a bunch of
>>banana clips, (30 per), sprayed the tree line and ran away like hell!
>>Coward I am, scared the piss out of me. I'll lift a glass with you guys,
>>will hang out the P.O.W. flag tomorrow.
>>Lou
>>               ---------
>>> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
>>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>>> Subject: Re: Holiday
>>> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:59 PM
>>>
>>> Semper Fi Lou.  Everyone in my shop has at least one S.E. Asia tour of
>>duty
>>> under his belt.  No R.E.M.F.'s, either.  All combat vets.  It's a
>>dangerous
>>> place for a liberal.  Peter, aka, it wouldn't do for me to be in charge
>>boy.
>>> We'll lift a glass to the brothers tomorrow.
>>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:49:03 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

yeah, Big blocks have em too, my dads chevelle (yeah, its a chevy) has one. My
455 has headers, so I cant be sure
Thanks
Kelly erikcson

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:03:02 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

Kelly, 
Shouldn't have them with headers. part of the exh. manifold assy.(stock)
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
- ----------
> From: DonziKel@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 7:49 PM
> 
> yeah, Big blocks have em too, my dads chevelle (yeah, its a chevy) has
one. My
> 455 has headers, so I cant be sure
> Thanks
> Kelly erikcson

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:16:38 EST
From: JJP442@aol.com
Subject: Re: TBI

Greg,
Fuel injected Olds?? Never heard of this. Can I get alittle more input??
Thanks,
John-Queens N.Y.
JJP442@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:23:25 EST
From: RGHaun@aol.com
Subject: 4sale non olds

For Sale
By Owner
Complete Set Of
Encyclopedia
Britannica
Excellent Condition
No Longer Needed
Wife Knows Everything

Ron Haun (rghaun@aol.com)
71 442 W30 Red Convert.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:25:40 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

Thats what i said, and if i didnt, i ment it
Kelly

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:34:57 -0500
From: Jim Olson <jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Parts

I still have some parts from my '85 Cutlass left if anyone's interested.
I also have pics I can send you privately. 

Central Michigan
1985 Cutlass

	Gauge package		$50
	Bucket Seats		$50/pr
	Console and shifter	$50
	77-79 Olds 350		$75
	(needs head work)
	T-top glass sections	$50/pr

I really need to get rid of these parts, and I think the prices are
fair. 

Jim...

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:34:20 +0000
From: "Joe Gerschutz" <gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu>
Subject: Regal hood/spoiler on Cutlass?

I was wondering if a 81-86 Regal cowl induction hood would fit on my 
82 Cutlass.  I don't recall ever hearing of a Regal cowl induction 
hood but this guy is advertising them.  Any ideas?  How about the 
spoiler off one.  Would that fit?

tia
Joe

PS Please email me directly unless you think the list will benefit 
from what you tell me.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:47:02 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: Uneven Rear

First thing I would look at is to make sure both springs are seated
properly.
If one spring is not all the way in the pocket that side would sit high.  If
you
have press in your air shocks let it out and see if it changes.  Seen it to
where
one shock would fill with air but the other wouldn't and would jack the one
side
of the car up.  To make sure its the springs jack the car up in the front
with
the jack in the middle (side to side) of the front crossmember.  This will
eliminate the front suspension and you can measure exactly how far off the
back is.  Then swap the rear springs and if the problem switches sides then
thats the problem.  Don't really think it would be the springs so double
check
everything you did under the back end.  If all else fails just tell everyone
that
you have the rear suspension preloaded so when your at the dragstrip it
pull straight when the front wheels come off the ground! :)

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net
ICQ# 19113713
72 Cutlass S (RIP)
68 Cutlass Supreme

>I finally got the Rallye on the ground sitting on all four wheels, but I
have
>a problem. The driver side rear sits approx. one inch lower than the
passenger
>side. The front end is fine. Here is what I have; new air shocks, but I
have
>not replaced the springs. Could it be the springs? Does anyone have any
idea
>where to look. The car was sitting on jack stands for about a year. I don't
>want to have to put new springs in, but I might have to.
>Thanks,
>Jim McKeague
>'70 Rallye 350
>'70 Cutlass W31
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:52:14 -0800 (PST)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Desktop Dyno

To all list members,
   As pointed out by Greg, getting software by this method is actually
considered illegal. For this reason I will not be sending to anyone,
as I do not wish to condone such activities.  Sorry for the confusion.
Greg, thanks for keeping us in line.
 





==
John McJunkin ( The Sman ) mailto:super442@yahoo.com  
  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
- -http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts    
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:02:39 -0600
From: Doug Newman <newmand@WCBI.com>
Subject: Olds List Centennial Video

Hi folks,
              If you've already ordered, thanks again.  (Shameless plug
follows.)  This would make a great holiday gift for that Olds fan on
your list.    :-) 

             I've worked in television for a almost eleven years, and
produced my fair share of weddings, fraternity rush videos, and high
school graduation videos.  During the Olds Centennial last August, some
of the list members took their cameras, and shot a load of video of all
the beautiful cars on display.  Since I didn't get to attend, I
volunteered to dub their raw video and edit it together into an Olds
e-mail list video scrapbook.  Tape was mastered on DVC, (Digital Video
Cassette) so you don't experience the video generation loss like you do
when dubbing VHS to VHS.  This is not a tape of corporate self-praise,
and I'm not affiliated with Olds, GM, or any other group that produced
tapes.  This is strictly a car video for car guys and ladies.  There's
no narration:  every shot is edited to music.  It contains 16 songs,
including Kathy Mattea's "455 Rocket" and Jackie Brenston and the Delta
Cats' "Rocket 88".  Total running time is 1:01:55.  You'll see some cars
owned by list members, as well as a few list members themselves.  (Greg
Beaulieu, Bryce Smith, Jim Chermack, plus Helen Earley and James
Walkinshaw, co-authors of "Setting the Pace".  Plus numerous shots of
Linda Vaughn, Miss Hurst Golden Shifter.)  Cost is $20.00 U.S., personal
check or money order.  This includes postage.  If you do decide to
order, please include your e-mail address with your order so I can
contact you when I ship your video.  (All orders go out the day payment
is received, except Saturday.)  Snail-mail address follows, and I look
forward to hearing from anyone interested.  If you have any questions,
please e-mail me privately to keep list traffic down.  Thanks for your
time.

Doug Newman        OCA # 30311
22 Ridge Road
Columbus, MS   39701

1987 442

newmand@wcbi.com

http://www.442.com/newman.html                1987 442
http://www.442.com/newmantape.html         Centennial Tape Ad

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:00:47 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Desktop Dyno

S-Man, 
Us sorry too.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
- ----------
> From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Desktop Dyno
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:52 PM
> 
> To all list members,
>    As pointed out by Greg, getting software by this method is actually
> considered illegal. For this reason I will not be sending to anyone,
> as I do not wish to condone such activities.  Sorry for the confusion.
> Greg, thanks for keeping us in line.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:00:13 -0500
From: "Brad Nicholson" <brad442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Hurst Olds Vista Cruiser?

Find a replica here at:
http://www.oldsclub.org/1998nats.htm

Brad Nicholson (OCA WebGuy)
brad442@erols.com
webguy@oldsclub.org

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:02:26 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Interior Painting

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Well, it probably appears dofferent to you.  But in this message, the font
is different and all my typings are blue.  You know as in the color.  You
are black.  Also there's some bold stuff happening.  Are you using Outlook
Express?


Ray

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Igor T. '81 DRB 455
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 1:58 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Interior Painting


????????.  What do you mean "blue".  I just got a new computer so maybe
something is screwed.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ray Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
    To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
    Date: November 9, 1998 8:35 PM
    Subject: RE: Interior Painting


    Hey Igor,
    You got some new fancy font setup or something?  Why am I blue?


    Ray

    -----Original Message-----
    From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Igor T. '81 DRB 455
    Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:31 PM
    To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: Interior Painting


    I am soon to get my car back from the body shop.  The car will be
metallic blue with silver stripes.  The interior is old, warn gold.  I would
like to change it to gray.  My dad does seats, so he will be willing to
reupholster a set of buckets (by the way, which car will buckets fit from.
A few times at the local yard I have seen the black swivel in a Cutlass or a
Regal.  Will these fit my '81 Delta).  I will change the carpet and
headliner to gray.  The door upholstery my dad can also do.  However, as far
as the plastic trim goes, is there paint that you can get to paint this.  If
so, what kind of results am I looking at.  Decent look or
look-like-it-was-painted-ugly look.  Thanks.

    Igor Todorovic

    1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)
    1981 Regency (307/th2004r/propane)
    1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)

    igor455@home.com

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font is=20
different and all my typings are blue.&nbsp; You know as in the =
color.&nbsp; You=20
are black.&nbsp; Also there's some bold stuff happening.&nbsp; Are you =
using=20
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<P><FONT size=3D2>Ray </FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<B>On=20
Behalf Of</B> Igor T. '81 DRB 455<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 10, =
1998=20
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Interior=20
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<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Ray Costanzo &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:costanzo@netcarrier.com">costanzo@netcarrier.com</A>&gt;<B=
R><B>To:=20
    </B><A =
href=3D"mailto:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca">oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca</A>=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca">oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca</A>&g=
t;<BR><B>Date:=20
    </B>November 9, 1998 8:35 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>RE: Interior=20
    Painting<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D320243003-10111998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>Hey Igor,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D320243003-10111998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D320243003-10111998><FONT =
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    face=3DArial size=3D2>You got some new fancy font setup or =
something?&nbsp; Why=20
    am I blue?<BR><BR>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>Ray </FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">oldsmobile-owner@chebucto=
.ns.ca</A>=20
    [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Igor T. =
'81 DRB=20
    455<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 09, 1998 12:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =

    oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Interior=20
    Painting<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>I am soon to get my car back from the body shop.&nbsp; The car =
will be=20
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    gold.&nbsp; I would like to change it to gray.&nbsp; My dad does =
seats, so=20
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which car=20
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The door=20
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what kind=20
    of results am I looking at.&nbsp; Decent look or=20
    look-like-it-was-painted-ugly look.&nbsp; Thanks.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>Igor Todorovic</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)</DIV>
    <DIV>1981 Regency (307/th2004r/propane)</DIV>
    <DIV>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><A href=3D"mailto:igor455@home.com">igor455@home.com</A>=20
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:26:29 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: November JWO mystery solved...

In a message dated 98-11-08 19:51:05 EST, you write:

<< 
  >>
glad the mystery is solved i miss my jwo


jeff  in atl ,ga

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:47:43 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Hurst Olds Vista Cruiser?

At 01:12 PM 11/10/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I was on the internet not too long ago and found some of the coolest 
>pictures of Vista Cruisers I have ever seen.  Although these wagons 
>already kick ass someone has what appears to be Hurst Olds Vista 
>Cruisers.  They are either 71 or 72 and sport the famous white and gold 
>Hurst striping and one says press on the front fender and the other has 
>medical director printed on the fender.  The car with medical director 
>also says official pace car on the side.  Now I would like to know if 
>the pace car version actually was a pace car

It was real. I think 2 were made

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:41:23 -0500
From: Brian Kerr <bkerr@golden.net>
Subject: Re: Uneven Rear

Move the car around some, bounce it up and down a few times, make sure nothing 
is
hanging up in the suspension, and check for 200 pounds of tools all on one 
side of
the trunk. If everything is ok, loosen the upper and lower arm bolts, and rear
bolts, adjust car to proper ride ht and retorqe everything to specs.

Brian Kerr
69 Cutlass Conv

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:26:17 EST
From: Sprotten25@aol.com
Subject: decoding

I just went on Drew's web sight. Their i found my vin says my car is a 69
cutlass v-8 sports coupe. On the driver's door there is a sticker that says
f-85 is this wrong?
I belive this car to be all original. 

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:04:58 -0600
From: Shang <shang@connect.net>
Subject: Re: Uneven Rear

Brian Kerr wrote:
> 
> Move the car around some, bounce it up and down a few times, make sure 
nothing is
> hanging up in the suspension, and check for 200 pounds of tools all on one 
side of
> the trunk. If everything is ok, loosen the upper and lower arm bolts, and 
rear
> bolts, adjust car to proper ride ht and retorqe everything to specs.
> 
> Brian Kerr
> 69 Cutlass Conv


I agree with checking the car over for weighted items and level ground,
but I do not believe there are any adjustments available at the control
bolts. Car ride height should be entirely determined by the springs.

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:21:22 -0800
From: michael r m <miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: Value of 1962 Star Fire Convert.

Hello,
I do not know if I am in the right forum so excuse me if I am. My
mother, who is her late 7 seventies has asked me to sell her 1962 Star
Fire convert. It was purchased new and has 86000 miles on it and is
truly the genuine thing. It is Honduras maroon metalic/maroon interior,
with a white convertible top. They originally picked up at the factory
and drove it home, to White Rock[Vancouver] B.C. Although the car has
was only used in the summer, it was driven home in the winter. It, due
to this, ended up with some rust in the rear 1/4 panel. Other than this
the car is as new. She was only going to have the rust repaired & she
ended up with a 'frame off ' resto. With this info would it be possible
to advise what the car is worth is in U.S. $$$??? I so far have not been
able to get a price as there seems to be none for sale for a comparison.
I know that there are very few convertibles around, for other than hers,
I have only seen one other in all the years she has owned it. I do know
that there were supposedly 7149 built. They must have mainly been sold
in the U.S.  It was an import at the time. They paid $7500.00 for it
new. Then again I bought my first new car, a 1963 Impala, 300 hp. 4
speed et. for $3400.00 on the road, from the same dealer ship. The Olds.
was over twice the price. Hey... when Suzuki Fire Fly's are selling for
over $11000.00 what is the car worth in relation...a couple of million.!
I wish & pigs fly eh! Any way, things have sure changed and certainly
not for the better. Point.... would really appreciate some input if
possible, including  where a good place to advertise it would be. Again
excuse me if I am in the wrong forum. If so, please advise whom I could
direct this message to. Thanks.
Kindest Regards
Michael R. Melenchuk
Ph.{604} 530-7309     E-mail....miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca   [ P.S.] Can
e-mail photos

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:21:39 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN Re: DeskTop Dyno

Sorry, you are right.  Won't happen again.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: November 10, 1998 6:08 PM
Subject: ADMIN Re: DeskTop Dyno


>
>Please be advised that the Olds list is not to be a vehicle for the
>distribution of unauthorized software. Since it violates a number of laws
>and/or agreements it is not the policy of this list to allow bootleg
>software to be distributed. Please do not use the list for this purpose. 
>
>
>Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:22:41 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Interior Painting

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Yes.  Your message looks normal except blue.  Outlook express and win98.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ray Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
    To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
    Date: November 10, 1998 8:04 PM
    Subject: RE: Interior Painting
   =20
   =20
    Well, it probably appears dofferent to you.  But in this message, =
the font is different and all my typings are blue.  You know as in the =
color.  You are black.  Also there's some bold stuff happening.  Are you =
using Outlook Express?
   =20
   =20
    Ray=20

    -----Original Message-----
    From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Igor T. '81 DRB 455
    Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 1:58 AM
    To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: Re: Interior Painting
   =20
   =20
    ????????.  What do you mean "blue".  I just got a new computer so =
maybe something is screwed.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Ray Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
        To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
        Date: November 9, 1998 8:35 PM
        Subject: RE: Interior Painting
       =20
       =20
        Hey Igor,
        You got some new fancy font setup or something?  Why am I blue?
       =20
       =20
        Ray=20

        -----Original Message-----
        From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Igor T. '81 DRB 455
        Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:31 PM
        To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
        Subject: Interior Painting
       =20
       =20
        I am soon to get my car back from the body shop.  The car will =
be metallic blue with silver stripes.  The interior is old, warn gold.  =
I would like to change it to gray.  My dad does seats, so he will be =
willing to reupholster a set of buckets (by the way, which car will =
buckets fit from.  A few times at the local yard I have seen the black =
swivel in a Cutlass or a Regal.  Will these fit my '81 Delta).  I will =
change the carpet and headliner to gray.  The door upholstery my dad can =
also do.  However, as far as the plastic trim goes, is there paint that =
you can get to paint this.  If so, what kind of results am I looking at. =
 Decent look or look-like-it-was-painted-ugly look.  Thanks.
       =20
        Igor Todorovic
       =20
        1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)
        1981 Regency (307/th2004r/propane)
        1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
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    </B>Ray Costanzo &lt;<A=20
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    <P><FONT size=3D2>Ray </FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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    [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Igor T. =
'81 DRB=20
    455<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 10, 1998 1:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =

    oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Interior=20
    Painting<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>????????.&nbsp; What do you mean =

    &quot;blue&quot;.&nbsp; I just got a new computer so maybe something =
is=20
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original=20
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Ray Costanzo &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:costanzo@netcarrier.com">costanzo@netcarrier.com</A>&gt;<B=
R><B>To:=20
        </B><A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca">oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca</A>=20
        &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca">oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca</A>&g=
t;<BR><B>Date:=20
        </B>November 9, 1998 8:35 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>RE: Interior=20
        Painting<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D320243003-10111998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
        size=3D2>Hey Igor,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D320243003-10111998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D320243003-10111998><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        face=3DArial size=3D2>You got some new fancy font setup or =
something?&nbsp;=20
        Why am I blue?<BR><BR>
        <P><FONT size=3D2>Ray </FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =

        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">oldsmobile-owner@chebucto=
.ns.ca</A>=20
        [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Igor =
T. '81=20
        DRB 455<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 09, 1998 12:31 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Interior=20
        Painting<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>I am soon to get my car back from the body shop.&nbsp; The =
car will=20
        be metallic blue with silver stripes.&nbsp; The interior is old, =
warn=20
        gold.&nbsp; I would like to change it to gray.&nbsp; My dad does =
seats,=20
        so he will be willing to reupholster a set of buckets (by the =
way, which=20
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have=20
        seen the black swivel in a Cutlass or a Regal.&nbsp; Will these =
fit my=20
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gray.&nbsp;=20
        The door upholstery my dad can also do.&nbsp; However, as far as =
the=20
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this.&nbsp;=20
        If so, what kind of results am I looking at.&nbsp; Decent look =
or=20
        look-like-it-was-painted-ugly look.&nbsp; Thanks.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV>Igor Todorovic</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)</DIV>
        <DIV>1981 Regency (307/th2004r/propane)</DIV>
        <DIV>1981 Dodge MaxiVan (360/727/4.10s)</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><A href=3D"mailto:igor455@home.com">igor455@home.com</A>=20
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:41:33 EST
From: DKlauber@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds Ads

Have not seen the post yet.  Do you have any 70 W-30 ads? Thanks
David OCA #30416	
70 442 W-30 Conv  

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:43:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Value of '62 Starfire Convert?

Not on the list, respond to miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca if interested.
Everett H., this sounds like a nice companion to your '61...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	michael r m <miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: Value of 1962 Star Fire Convert.

Hello,
I do not know if I am in the right forum so excuse me if I am. My
mother, who is her late 7 seventies has asked me to sell her 1962 Star
Fire convert. It was purchased new and has 86000 miles on it and is
truly the genuine thing. It is Honduras maroon metalic/maroon interior,
with a white convertible top. They originally picked up at the factory
and drove it home, to White Rock[Vancouver] B.C. Although the car has
was only used in the summer, it was driven home in the winter. It, due
to this, ended up with some rust in the rear 1/4 panel. Other than this
the car is as new. She was only going to have the rust repaired & she
ended up with a 'frame off ' resto. With this info would it be possible
to advise what the car is worth is in U.S. $$$??? I so far have not been
able to get a price as there seems to be none for sale for a comparison.
I know that there are very few convertibles around, for other than hers,
I have only seen one other in all the years she has owned it. I do know
that there were supposedly 7149 built. They must have mainly been sold
in the U.S.  It was an import at the time. They paid $7500.00 for it
new. Then again I bought my first new car, a 1963 Impala, 300 hp. 4
speed et. for $3400.00 on the road, from the same dealer ship. The Olds.
was over twice the price. Hey... when Suzuki Fire Fly's are selling for
over $11000.00 what is the car worth in relation...a couple of million.!
I wish & pigs fly eh! Any way, things have sure changed and certainly
not for the better. Point.... would really appreciate some input if
possible, including  where a good place to advertise it would be. Again
excuse me if I am in the wrong forum. If so, please advise whom I could
direct this message to. Thanks.
Kindest Regards
Michael R. Melenchuk
Ph.{604} 530-7309     E-mail....miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca   [ P.S.] Can
e-mail photos

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:45:26 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '85 Cutlass Parts FS

Respond to Jim Olson <jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu> if interested.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Jim Olson <jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Parts

I still have some parts from my '85 Cutlass left if anyone's interested.
I also have pics I can send you privately. 

Central Michigan
1985 Cutlass

	Gauge package		$50
	Bucket Seats		$50/pr
	Console and shifter	$50
	77-79 Olds 350		$75
	(needs head work)
	T-top glass sections	$50/pr

I really need to get rid of these parts, and I think the prices are
fair. 

Jim...

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:44:37 -0800 (PST)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN Re: DeskTop Dyno

Again sorry about all this. If anyone is interested you can get a
"demo" at the following: http://www.mrgasket.com/serioust.htm
I will not be sending out copies, you can get from this site. 
Greg, my apologies again.





==
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  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:51:43 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: TBI

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 JJP442@aol.com wrote:
> Fuel injected Olds?? Never heard of this. Can I get alittle more input??

I don't know much about it but I'm sure others here do. The first Sevilles
used an Olds Rocket 350 with a unique fuel injction system. It apparently
had some control-system problems. Other than that I don't know much about
them. The one in the junqueyarde looked pretty complete.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:29:24 -0500
From: Jim Olson <jolson@edzone.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: '85 Cutlass Parts FS

Greg, 

I unsubscribed with my old address jolson@remcen.ehhs.cmich.edu and
re-subscribed with my new address, jolson@edzone.net - can you check to
see why it bounced me?

Thanks for such a super job you guys do here...

Jim...

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:23 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: cat converter

Heard something rattling around the other day. Seems it's the cat
converter.Something must have cooked inside there and broken off. Is there any
way to remove it without re welding?
tia
Bruce 
75 Delta 88 conv.

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:05:06 -0500
From: "Worthington, David L" <david_worthington@reyrey.com>
Subject: last night's 455 teardown /  Cam Question

Hey folks,

I tore into the 455 for next year's race vehicle and found out a previous
owner had a passion for Erson products, namely dual valvesprings / lifters /
cam / valve covers....  

After finally getting to the camshaft...I saw on the distributor end of the
cam "ERSON TQ-20H"
Any help on finding out the lift/duration numbers???  I'm running into a
dead end.  Jegs and Summit dont sell erson stuff... the only other place I
knew of that sold Erson was Super Shops and they thankfully went out of
business.  I usually wont use erson cams because they seem like chevy
patterns copied to an olds blank.  No split duration and lift.


Thanks in advance

Dave Worthington
(havent had any luck in finding my stolen 2x4 intake and carbs yet)

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:28:07 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: decoding

I just went on Drew's web sight. Their i found my vin says my car is a 69
cutlass v-8 sports coupe. On the driver's door there is a sticker that says
f-85 is this wrong?
I belive this car to be all original.
_________

No, it is correct.  The terms Sport Coupe and F-85 are not mutually
exclusive.  Sport Coupe refers to the body style, which is a two door sedan
- - in other words it has metal frames around the door windows (also refered
to as a "post" car due to the vertical metal posts between the door side
glass and the rear quarter glass).  Also available was the Holiday Coupe,
which is more commonly known as the two door hardtop.  With the side
windows rolled down, there is no vertical post on the hardtops.

The F-85 designation is the name of the model, and is related to the trim
level.  Olds used a variety of model names, starting with the F-85, which
was the bottom of the line (ie, the least expensive model in the Cutlass
line), followed by the Cutlass, Cutlass S, Cutlass Supreme, and 442.  All
of these models used the same basic body shell, differing in the trim
levels, plushness of the interior, and engine choices.  Not all body styles
were available with all models, by the way.  For example, I don't believe
you could get an F-85 Holiday Coupe in 1969.

One interesting note is that while the F-85 was the bottom of the line
model, it was also the lightest (due to the reduced trim).  It was
available with the W-31 package that year, making for a screamer of a car.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:32:11 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: TBI

Greg,
Fuel injected Olds?? Never heard of this. Can I get alittle more input??
Thanks,
John-Queens N.Y.
JJP442@aol.com
______________

Yes, Greg was correct.  Note that these EFI Olds motors were not TBI
(throttle body injected) as the subject line implies, but were, in fact,
port injected (eight separate injectors) with a central throttle body to
control air flow.  Unfortunately, this system used an analog controller,
not today's digital version, resulting in driveability problems and a bad
reputation.  I seem to recall that this was a batch fire system, where
alternating sets of four injector valves were pulsed simultaneously.  It
was _not_ a sequential port injection system.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:37:36 -0500
From: "Rob Lewis" <fever@planeteer.com>
Subject: Re: no heat

Okay took a look,heat is getting passed the valve on back of 
manifold,hose is hot going into block.Still no heat checked under
dash for hose off, didn't see anything, seems to be vaccum under there.
I guess I'm missing something.
Hose is cold to water pump.


- ----------
> From: Rob Lewis <fever@planeteer.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: no heat
> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 8:00 PM
> 
> Thank you sir I'll start checking on Sunday.
> Can't afford to let the wife get any colder.
> Let you know the story.
> Thanks
> 
> ----------
> > From: Andrew C. Green <acg_o@hotmail.com>
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: no heat
> > Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 5:46 PM
> > 
> > > Hi Andrew it is the type at the back of the block
> > > is there a name for this part.or may-be I can just by-pass it.
> > 
> > Well, it's the heater valve, and shouldn't be too hard to find;
> > I don't think there were a whole lot of different ones for Olds
> > over several years. I don't think you can bypass it real easily
> > since one end of it is screwed into the block. The replacement
> > shouldn't cost a fortune. Both Olds in our family that had the
> > block-mounted valve ('76 and '78) needed it replaced at least once.
> > 
> > > Also which way does this water flow,from water pump to heater
> > > and to manifold or vice versa.
> > 
> > Somebody check me on this but I think it flows out of the block
> > through the valve, through the heater core, then back through
> > that long return hose to the water pump. That makes the most 
> > sense to me since you want the heater to start putting out heat 
> > as soon as possible.
> > 
> > As far as testing, you might want to get a hand vacuum pump, and
> > when the engine is cold and stopped, disconnect the heater hose 
> > at the valve and see if the valve is open. I think it should be;
> > in any event, hook up the hand pump to the vacuum port and see
> > if the valve moves when you apply a vacuum to it. Sounds like you
> > are going to find that it won't budge.
> > 
> > > I'm not totally stupid just not to familiar with these air
> > > cond units.
> > 
> > Heck, no problem. In between our urban legend discussions we do
> > try to fix a few cars now and then.  :-)
> > 
> > -- Andy
> > 
> > 
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:45:33 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: no heat

Okay took a look,heat is getting passed the valve on back of
manifold,hose is hot going into block.Still no heat checked under
dash for hose off, didn't see anything, seems to be vaccum under there.
I guess I'm missing something
__________

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this thread, but from the sound
of this, it sure sounds like the heater core is plugged.  If you've already
checked it, I apologize for not paying attention, but if not, there isn't
another hot water valve in the system, so if the hose coming back to the
pump is cold, and the one to the heater is hot, you've significantly
narrowed down the possibilities.

Try pulling off the hoses and reverse flushing the core (water pressure in
from the pump side and out from the block side of the core).  Note that the
risk here is that if the core is plugged and corroded, you stand a good
chance of dislodging that corrosion and opening up a pinhole that will
start leaking.  'Course, you needed to replace the core anyway...

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:19:02 -0600
From: Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .

It is called EFE, Early Fuel Evaporation.  You can usually tell when it is
operating, it should make some change in exhaust note.  I am not using EFE
on my 85 Cutlass with a 77 350, but it does make the exhaust cross over VERY
close to the starter, enough you cannot use the big HD starter.  I want to
put it back in for clearance and also for faster warmup in the winter.  I
only drive 16 miles each way, so I am using the starter listed for the 80
Turbo Trans AM, very healthy small starter with higher speed than the
standard 307 starter.  

Anyone know what the part houses call it?  GM calls it EFE, but the
autoparts stores seem clueless to the name.  

It only operates until coolant temp reaches 65-70 degrees F.  Then it is
shut off.  Don't disconnect it, it does help, this is one that can hose you
with excessive pinging if it is routed incorrectly.  GM has a special
lubricant to lube it periodically to prevent it from sticking.  (Like anyone
does REAL preventive maintenance!)  

Thomas Martin
80 Turbo Trans AM
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800



>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:37:20 -0800
>From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
>Subject: Re: Exhaust Restrictor???  Hmm . . .
>
>At 12:05 AM 11/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>My 1966 CUtlass does the same thing. When you start it, only steam comes
out
>of the left pipe. After running for about 10 minutes, both pipes are
>steaming.
>My dads 68 CUtlass does it, my moms Chrysler does it (318 2bbl :P) and my
>dads
>chevelle does it. My friends Trans Am does it too, so yeah, its stock i'd
>say.
>Kelly Erickson
>
>this pushes exaust gasses through the intake manifold under the carb to
help 
>speed warm-up. 

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