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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, November 16 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1606



Re: M22 & M21 Transmission Differences (Input Shaft Only)
455 olds and buick engines
Re: '73-'77 Cutlass Specs
(Final word) Re: 455 olds and buick engines
Interesting item on eBay web site item#41609908: 1973 Oldsmobile Chassis 
Service Manual
Re: How to score a Q-jet while Yarde-ing
Re: W-27 rear end price?
Re: M22 & M21 Transmission Differences (Input Shaft Only)
[Fwd: '65 to '66 control arm interchange/Prothane bushings]
Re: 72 442 Question
Re: 72 442 Question
Re: 72 442 Question
killer 442
Nobody? (wind wing)
Re: Nobody? (wind wing)
Re: Harry's Pull and Save
Automobile followup
Re: 455 Lower Radiator hose
Another site you'll enjoy
Parts Question
Re: more pictures up
FS: '68 H/O
RE: Parts Question
RE: Nobody? (wind wing)
Re: How to score a Q-jet while Yarde-ing
WTB:  '37 or '38 Coupe
Mandrel bent exhaust
Re: Harry's Pull and Save
Re: Parts Question
Classic Olds List
Re: Nobody? (wind wing)
Re: Nobody? (wind wing)
Re: Classic Olds List
Power door lock  wiring
Re: Power door lock  wiring
Re: [Fwd: '65 to '66 control arm interchange/Prothane bushings]
Must check out for a while
Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?
Re: Parts Question
Re: replacing brake hose
Re: the olds 455 is the same engine of the 455 buick? thanks
Re: killer 442
Re: killer 442
Re: Parts Question
Re: replacing brake hose
vent window removal (if not interested, delete)
Headers
RE: Coker Wheel
Re: requested info
Re: JWO address
Re: replacing brake hose
Olds Ads

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:01:37 -0500
From: "Mark Cornea (R)" <mcornea@ford.com>
Subject: Re: M22 & M21 Transmission Differences (Input Shaft Only)

Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:
> 
> My '70 W30 came with a M20 and I changed it to a M22,...I had to locate a
> "shifter mounting plate" this was NOT the same, M22 tail shaft is longer
> which positioned the shifter further back, resulting in, different plate
> and, a shorter drive shaft.
> ___________
> 
> Actually, the shifter mounting plate is not an M20 vs M22 distinction, it's
> a model year distinction.  I'm not sure of the exact year (I want to say
> 1973, but I'm not 100% sure), but the tailhousing holes were relocated.
> Same year M20s and M22s have the same shifter plates and mounting holes.
> 
> Joe Padavano
> padavano.joe@orbital.com

	Joe,
	The M22 that I have is from a "71 W30 that I parted out years ago, but
the shifter and plate were gone. ... The 2 plates that I have are
completely different and are not interchangeable.  Interesting stuff!?
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
               Mark Cornea (Dr. Decal)  OCA# 4903
                             1970 W30 (red)

                     <mailto:drdecal@wwnet.net>
                     <mailto:mcornea@ford.com>

                    Visit http://www.drdecal.com
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:02:00 -0200
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gibran_Curtiss_Salom=E3o?= <gibran@smtp.mj.gov.br>
Subject: 455 olds and buick engines

sorry about my question. 
i readed the all olds faq this weekend and really , these engines arent
the same.
the faq will help me to answer many questions. congratulations to you
that help to mount the entire faq.

i deleted all emails after readed, so , i dont know who told me to use
my brain to see that the olds are olds and buicks are buicks. 
here is a paralel question. i m proud owner of a 1993 Pontiac TransAM.
and this is specially for that person who told for me to use my brain.
chevys are chevys, and pontiacs are pontiacs. but MY LT1 engine is
identical to the camaros.
i dont want to create fight because the answer i gave, but as user of
Camaro Bulletin Board for about 2 years and i never received an aswer
like that. 
that things happen

sorry if my brain doesnt works fine.




Gibran Curtiss Salomão
55-61-234-3965
gibran@mj.gov.br
icq:13807962
pontiac.homepage.nu
pontiac webring webmaster

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:38:00 EST
From: MNManiac@aol.com
Subject: Re: '73-'77 Cutlass Specs

In a message dated 11/16/98, 10:18:05 AM, oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
<<Anybody know any specs for '73-'77 Cutlass coupe and sedan.  I know that
two doors had a 112" wheelbase and four doors had a 114" wheelbase.  I
am looking for width, overall length, luggage capacity, fuel capacity,
legroom, headroom and shoulder room.  Any help is appriciated.  Thanks>>

I had a '77 once-upon-a-time (best car I ever owned.)  Fuel tank was 22
gallons.

- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:49:45 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: (Final word) Re: 455 olds and buick engines

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sorry about my question...

Gibran Curtiss Salom
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=E3o
__________

No need to be sorry, that's how we learn.  This is an easy and common
mistake to make (assuming that all GM engines are the same), as Ford an=
d
Chrysler have always used the same engines across all car lines.  While=
 GM
also does this now with "corporate engines", back in the 60s each GM
division had it's own unique engines.  As a result, GM had four differe=
nt
350s, four different 454-454s, and five (count 'em) 400s (B, O, P, and =
two
from Chevy, a big block and a small block).  Interestingly, these cars =
all
shared a common Chevy straight six, although Pontiac added it's own uni=
que
SOHC head to the Chevy block.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70W-30
=

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:56:13 -0400
From: mahahn@fuse.net
Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#41609908: 1973 Oldsmobile 
Chassis Service Manual

I saw this item for sale at eBay, the world's largest personal trading 
community, and thought that you might be interested.

Title of item:	1973 Oldsmobile Chassis Service Manual
Seller:	emann1@webtv.net
Starts:	11/11/98 19:58:44 PST 
Ends:	11/18/98 19:58:44 PST 
Price:	Currently $2.77
To bid the item, go to:	
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=41609908


Item Description:		
	This is a chassis service manual for 1973 Oldsmobiles. Covers your 
Omega, Vista Cruiser, Custom Cruiser, Delta 88, Delta 88 Royale, Cutlass, 
Ninety-Eight, and Toronado. The book is in good condition. Winning bidder 
prepays by money order plus $3 for shipping. No reserve, good luck! 

	Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at 
http://www.ebay.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:19:19 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: How to score a Q-jet while Yarde-ing

In a message dated 11/16/98 7:26:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, hitson@i1.net
writes:

<< Lotsa early to mid eighties GM & Chevy trucks came with Q-jets (pickups, 
 K-Blazers, Suburbans)
 
 
  roger hitson  >>

      There weren't many GM vehicles that came with a 4 barrel that WASN'T a
Quadrajet. (of course since GM started using Quadrajets) Only ones I can think
of that didn't were the super high performance motors that didn't make enough
vacuum to open the secondaries.  Dorian

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:23:22 -0500
From: "Gib Loudon" <loud5269@kettering.edu>
Subject: Re: W-27 rear end price?

Hey everybody!
Um....earlier I made a post to the list about W27 rear ends that was
apparently not true.  I have been notified of my mistake and hopefully you
all read Joe's email regarding the correction.  There was a W27 produced and
were in fact very rare.  Again the list has shown how we can all learn from
the vast knowledge of such an enormous collection of oldsmobilers.  LONG
LIVE OLDSMOBILE!

I appologize for any confusion.

Gib Loudon
Cutlass Net
http://www.cutlass.net
loud5269@kettering.edu
cutlass@mill.tds.net

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:23:46 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: M22 & M21 Transmission Differences (Input Shaft Only)

In a message dated 11/16/98 6:08:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, mcornea@ford.com
writes:

<< I didn't catch all of the notes going around on the M22, M21, M20 but I
 thought I'd throw this one in. My '70 W30 came with a M20 and I changed
 it to a M22, the mounting surface and crank-to-input shaft was a direct
 bolt in (except 13 spline to 26 spline). Next, I had to locate a
 "shifter mounting plate" this was NOT the same, M22 tail shaft is longer
 which positioned the shifter further back, resulting in, different plate
 and, a shorter drive shaft. Anyway, the "shifter mounting plate" took me
 approximately 2 years to locate. ...... Just info passed a long.
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                Mark Cornea (Dr. Decal)  OCA# 4903 >>

      This would probably indicate why in the interchange manual I have, the
note reads "extension housing may need to be changed on some applications" Why
they would have used different length's makes no sense, unless vehicle to
vehicle (Olds  to Chev) shifter locations were different. Since the
transmission itself is the same length, who knows. Dorian

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:21:31 -0600
From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
Subject: [Fwd: '65 to '66 control arm interchange/Prothane bushings]

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:49:35 -0600
From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
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Hi All,

  I'm fairly sure I can do this without a hitch, but thought I'd check
with the list as well.  I've got a '65 442 and wat to upgrade the
suspension, but the lower front control arms have different diameter
bushings than '66 and up Olds.  I have a set of '66 arms and was going
to swap them in so I can get a set of polyurethane bushings from eithe
Energy or Prothane.  Do these arms have the same geometries or is there
a difference that I'm not aware of?

  Also, has anyone used Prothane bushings?  Do they squeek?

 Thanks.


Paul Brillhart

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:37:10 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 72 442 Question

So they did have a few W-30 red innder fender wells in the
beginning....This included convertibles also?
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: 72 442 Question
> Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 8:34 AM
> 
> 
> > From: Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
> 
> > ALso on a 72 442 W-30 the inner fender wells were BLACK not RED,
correct?
> > 
> 
> Some early 72's came with red inner wells, but most 72 w-30 did not have
> them. Too most people they expect not to see red wells in a 72.
> 
> My 72 w-30 rag didn't have them.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
> Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:31:03 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: 72 442 Question

> From: Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
> 
> So they did have a few W-30 red innder fender wells in the
> beginning....This included convertibles also?
> Pettrix@prodigy.net
> 
> > Some early 72's came with red inner wells, but most 72 w-30 did not
have
> > them.

> > Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
> > Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454

It was agreed upon that approximately 8 - 11 of these cars in early
production had left over 71 red wells.  It is though unclear what vehicles
they went on.

Best I can do for you

Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454




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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:44:55 EST
From: WMACHINES@aol.com
Subject: Re: 72 442 Question

In a message dated 98-11-16 12:38:40 EST, you write:

<< So they did have a few W-30 red innder fender wells in the
 beginning....This included convertibles also?
 Pettrix@prodigy.net
  >>
I heard it as a rumor, but Helen Early of the Oldsmobile History Center said
that no 72 W cars came with them.  I have yet to see any at any of the OCA
events.  

W MACHINES

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:50:41 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: killer 442

Was there ever a killer 442? 

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:54:19 -0700
From: Ben <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: Nobody? (wind wing)

Here is the question AGAIN!!! Seeing as how nobody answered my Q about
wind wings, I'll keep posting till somebody has some sort of
information. With all those who have done restorations it's hard to
believe that nobody has info on how to remove the wind wings from a 68
442. So, please share the knowledge...

Ben

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:02:27 -0800
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Nobody? (wind wing)

Ben wrote:

> Here is the question AGAIN!!! Seeing as how nobody answered my Q about
> wind wings, I'll keep posting till somebody has some sort of
> information. With all those who have done restorations it's hard to
> believe that nobody has info on how to remove the wind wings from a 68
> 442. So, please share the knowledge...

Gosh I wish I can help you.  I don't even know what a wind wing is.  Are
you
talking about a rear spoiler?  If so, did you want to remove the tips?  
In all of the e-mail I have seen no one has mentioned any disassembly
process.  Maybe they are glued on?  I probably wasted bandwidth here. 
Sorry.

- -- 
Chris Sparks
68 442 SC - Frosty
68 442 HT - Scarlet
68 442 HT - Saffron
82 DRB    - Dr. "B"
http://www.catalina-inter.net/mrada

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:08:32 -0200
From: BRIAN SHANKLE <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: Harry's Pull and Save

EZ Pull and Save has a *fairly* decent selection of older cars but I
couldn't vouch for the 69-70 Olds's.  What struck me was the fact that
they had an abundance of Corvairs.  Since there seems to be a fair
amount of people from the NJ/PA region on the list, I will post the
phone # to the list.  Assuming I can find it in my stack of papers, that
is.
Brian.

person wrote:
> 
> Has anybody seen any 69 70 Ninety-Eights at any of those places???
> 
>                                        =
>                                            =
>                                                 =
> ==================================
> '69 Olds Ninety-Eight Topless Bubba======
> ====666=================999============
>          666                                 999
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BRIAN SHANKLE <cshankle@home.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 6:08 PM
> Subject: Harry's Pull and Save
> 
> >This sounds really cool--Harry's U Pull it, that is--I am in Central New
> >Jersey, and I always go to a place called EZ Pull and Save which is in
> >New Ringgold--Schuylkill County I believe.  There aren't too awful many
> >Cutlasses there and I think a great majority of the Caddy's and Delta
> >88's are diesels, but for the parts you find, you can't beat the price.
> >I would like to know more about Harry's, and the directions on how to
> >get there from Route 1, or I78 or any other main road that may come into
> >PA from New Jersey.  Also, do they have a reasonable selection of
> >Cutlass and Delta 88 cars?
> >Thanks,
> >Brian
> >86 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
> >
> >Ray Costanzo wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi there Olds folks,
> >> Two questions:
> >> 1.  I've been spending most of my time with the newly spawned g-body
> list,
> >> and I'm just wondering how things are going over here.  Is it all calm
> and
> >> cool now?  hope so...
> >>
> >> 2.  Do I remember hearing a lot of talk about q-jets coming standard on
> >> Oldses, and probably many gm's?  My brother and I are hoping to find one
> for
> >> his ScoutII, as they supposedly have a good off-road reputation, and I'm
> >> just wondering if most Oldses or GM's are likely to have them.  We'll be
> >> going to Harry's U-Pull-it, the coolest place around!
> >>
> >> Thanks for any input...
> >>
> >> Ray Costanzo
> >> 87 409 Cutlass
> >> Bucks County, PA
> >> costanzo@netcarrier.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:03:38 -0600
From: "Austin Schroeger" <austin@lsol.net>
Subject: Automobile followup

In case you all were unaware, I live near Two Rivers Wisconsin (about 6
miles away) home of M&L auto and Constant Velocity.

Constant Velocity is a car maker who makes special order dodge ram super
trucks, with viper drive lines and custom body work. (all fiberglass)

M&L is the auto company who makes the special cobra's that Jay Leno and
other celeb's buy.

In case you haven't seen Automobile Magazine lately, M&L now makes the
Romulas Preditor.  a 200MPH super car with a V-10 twin supercharged ford
motor, which (the car) was designed to compete with the McLaren F-1   HP
sponsors M&L and Constant Velocity (they use HP software to design the cars)
and HP now has a web site showing this car.

The company i work for installed their phone system, Voicemail and data
network, and I got to sit in the Preditor.  Thought you all might want to
see this.  M&L plans on USA sales in 2001 and has already sold Jay Leno a
version of this car, which has a sticker price of $350,000.  The USA market
will bring the sales price down to about $150,000.00 when it finally starts
to sell.

Anyways..  here's the URL  enjoy
http://www.hp.com/unixwork/markets/supercar/

Austin J. Schroeger
Manitowoc, Wisconsin
http://www.g-body.org / http://members.lsol.net/austin
austin@g-body.org / austin@lsol.net
Home ICQ: 16380613 / Work ICQ: 7328959
1984 Monte Carlo SS (406CI)

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:09:11 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: 455 Lower Radiator hose

In a message dated 98-11-16 00:34:30 EST, you write:

<< I was putting the lower radiator hose on my Rallye and the hose seemed
awfully loose. Aren't the radiator hoses supposed to fit snugly? This hose is
supposed to be the correct one for a 455, which is what I have. Any comments?
>>

Jim, (and all)...

When Karl swapped the timing chain on SOM back in April, he had the foresight
to order replacement hoses. (Actually had hoses before timing set was ordered.
Hoses from USA Parts Supply, timing set from Kanter).

Karl recalls difficulty with the lower rad hose.

Not 100% certain what dificulty was.
Know that length was longer that what was on there.
Know that the included clamps were to small (??????) for the application.
Think that pum end fit snug, but OK. Think Rad end was TIGHT (or too loose??)
sorry for poor memory, Karl only recalls that more effort was spent at the rad
end of the hose.
Possibly diferent makers use different tooling (right word for hoses?) to
flare the ends.
The hoses  USA Parts Supply sent Karl were actual Gate's (sp?) hoses!

Karl still keeps duct tape in SOM - to contain his Pepsi cans.

SOM

&KA
ICQ #20414415
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html
http://members.aol.com/KarlAune/rage.html

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:12:29 -0600
From: "Austin Schroeger" <austin@lsol.net>
Subject: Another site you'll enjoy

sorry, I forgot to post this with the previous message

http://www.constantvelocity.com/

Austin J. Schroeger
Manitowoc, Wisconsin
http://www.g-body.org / http://members.lsol.net/austin
austin@g-body.org / austin@lsol.net
Home ICQ: 16380613 / Work ICQ: 7328959
1984 Monte Carlo SS (406CI)

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:21:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Parts Question

Hello again list.

I got my insurance check on Sat. and I started tearing the bent
wreckage that use to be the front of my baby off. I was wondering if
anyone knew the name of this part. It has the lower radiator support
and then it goes up to where the headlight assemblies mount to. It has
the top shelf where the hood bumpers and the upper radiator support
bolt to. It also has the hood latch mechanism attatched to it. What is
the name of this part? I tried calling it a front clip and everyone at
the salvage yard thought that I meant from the windshield up. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Del




==
Rock-Man's Page http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
rockman20@yahoo.com
1986 Honda Accord DX
1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
1981 John Deer Snowmobile
197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
_________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:19:24 -0500 (EST)
From: zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu
Subject: Re: more pictures up

Ooops... sorry all... wrong address... should be:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/4468/oldsmobile/olds.html

You can't capitalize the "O" in Oldsmobile... it was a typ-o.

On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu wrote:

> Put some more pics of the '79... a burnout... and some other stuff up...
> they are at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/4468/Oldsmobile/olds.html
> 
> Tell me what you think...
> 
> BTW, the '83 isn't a h/o contrary to what it says on the door... but it
> does have an h/o drivetrain!
> 
> Will organize these pics into a better webpage eventually... but right now
> have no time...
> 
> 
> 
>     |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
>    /|\       Clayton Pierce,
>   / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
>  |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
>  |  |  |     
>  |  |  |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
>  | / \ |     
>  |/   \|     1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
>   \   /         (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
>    \ /          http://www.442.com/pierce.html
>     |        1982 Oldsmobile Cutlass Brougham
> 		(parts car) (307, 4bbl, TH350, 2.14:1, 90k miles)
> 	     1980 Rover 3500 SD1
> 	        (215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
> 		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
>      	     1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> 		(260 V8, 2bbl, TH350)
> 		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/79cutlass.html
> 	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
> 		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
> 		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:42:38 -0700
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: FS: '68 H/O

If you haven't seen the ad yet, my good Olds buddy is selling his '68 H/O.
He doesn't have internet access, so I'm advertising it for him.

Here's what I know about the car:

96,000 original miles, was restored 13 years ago, and has been stored ever
since.  Previous owner worked at Olds dealership and restored it using all
GM NOS parts.  The complete front end is all NOS sheet metal.  The red inner
fenders are even NOS, and look great.  The bumper scoops are NOS, as well.
The original motor spun a bearing, so car currently has a '70(?) 455 in it
that runs great.  All other parts are numbers matching.  Original numbers
matching motor is available.  Seat covers were redone in non-original (but
very nice) velour.  This is the only incorrect part of the car.  One of the
bumper scoop trim pieces is missing (he might have it, I don't know, but
it's not on the car).  Other than that, everything is correct and complete.
This car has been well taken care of.  It has not been butchered and made
into a drag racer.  Southern Utah, where the car is located, is a semi-arid
desert climate, and there is no rust in this car.  It is very straight and
solid.  It has 3:90 posi, PS, PB, non A/C.  With all the NOS parts on this
car, it is almost like new.  He needs to sell it quick, before he changes
his mind.  It's priced at $12,000.  Car runs and drives great, but if you
want the original block, you'd have to bring a trailer.

If interested, call Mike at work, (435)673-3606 or at home, (435)634-0517.

He can tell you more about the car than I can, since he owns it.

Thanks,
Blaine

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:08:17 -0500
From: Fernando.Proietto@ec.gc.ca
Subject: RE: Parts Question

It's referred to as the front rad support.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Rock Man [SMTP:rockman20@yahoo.com]
> Sent:	Monday, November 16, 1998 2:22 PM
> To:	Oldsmobile E-mail Ring
> Subject:	Parts Question
> 
> Hello again list.
> 
> I got my insurance check on Sat. and I started tearing the bent
> wreckage that use to be the front of my baby off. I was wondering if
> anyone knew the name of this part. It has the lower radiator support
> and then it goes up to where the headlight assemblies mount to. It has
> the top shelf where the hood bumpers and the upper radiator support
> bolt to. It also has the hood latch mechanism attatched to it. What is
> the name of this part? I tried calling it a front clip and everyone at
> the salvage yard thought that I meant from the windshield up. Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Del
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ==
> Rock-Man's Page http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
> rockman20@yahoo.com
> 1986 Honda Accord DX
> 1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
> 1981 John Deer Snowmobile
> 197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
> 1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
> _________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:09:01 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: Nobody? (wind wing)

<SNIP>

my Q about wind wings


<GJC>

Could he mean door mounted "Vent Windows"?

- -----Regards,

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Couse Customs
Rt-1, Box-615
Purling, N.Y.
   12470

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For free Win95-98 Support, come visit <GJC> at:
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mailto:techsupport@salemcounty.com



- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Ben
Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 1:54 PM
To: olds mail
Subject: Nobody? (wind wing)


Here is the question AGAIN!!! Seeing as how nobody answered , I'll keep
posting till somebody has some sort of
information. With all those who have done restorations it's hard to
believe that nobody has info on how to remove the wind wings from a 68
442. So, please share the knowledge...

Ben

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:37:13 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: How to score a Q-jet while Yarde-ing

In a message dated 98-11-16 12:23:56 EST, you write:

<<  There weren't many GM vehicles that came with a 4 barrel that WASN'T a
 Quadrajet. (of course since GM started using Quadrajets) Only ones I can
think
 of that didn't were the super high performance motors that didn't make enough
 vacuum to open the secondaries.  >>

Most of the obvious performance cars will have been picked over for the
Quadrajet.
It was not that Karl found no spead bore intakes.....
Just no Q-Jets.
Well, there was one.
In the 1969 98 that am sending pics to Vdeveloper of.
'cause one hood hinge is frozen down.....

So... Karl  looking for a Qjet (pre 73!!!) with integral choke.
Specific year and jetting or original application not an issue, so long as
integral choke.

Have a 72 with damaged non-essential parts.

BTW would also appreciate if anyone with a Qjet with integral choke and has
their shop manual, and shop manual has images of integral choke (exploded is
better!) would kindly contact Karl privately @ KarlAune@aol.com 
Would like to arrange faxing of diagrams.

Thanks much!

SOM
&KA

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:45:38 -0700
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: WTB:  '37 or '38 Coupe

A buddy of mine is looking for a '37 or '38 (preferably '38) 2-door coupe
Chevy, Buick, Olds, or Pontiac body in good condition.  Car must be in
Western US, close to Utah.  He's willing to travel if necessary.  Prefers
CA, NV, AZ, or UT car with little rust.

E-mail me if you have anything of interest, and I'll contact him with the
info.

Thanks,
Blaine
blaines@strata3d.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:56:30 EST
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Mandrel bent exhaust

Anyone on the list know where I can get mandrel bent 2 1/2" head pipes and 2
1/4" tailpipes for a '72 Cutlass? 

Jon

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:36:16 -0200
From: BRIAN SHANKLE <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: Harry's Pull and Save

EZ Pull is probably about 45 minutes south of Hazleton.  I remember on
my maiden voyage there I drove through Hazleton and saw what I believe
to be Harry's but I couldn't find how to get to it....
	Anyway, EZ Pull is in New Ringgold, on hwy 895.  Now that I know
better, I come in from Allentown and pick up 309 North, drive for a long
time through the mountains, and then make a left onto 895.  At this
intersection there is a small strip mall with a pizza place and (I
think) an Exxon Station.  On the other side is a Mobil Station and
across the street there is a house or two with a rusted old 68 or 69
Camaro in the side lawn.  You would want to take 895 right between the
Mobil and the rusted Camaro's house.  Drive for about ten minutes and on
the left you will see a salvage yard (which looks pretty good and
actually borders on EZ Pull, but they are only open until 12 on
Saturdays)  Just past that yard there is a narrow road to the left. 
take that up the hill, and go left at the T-intersection.  About 1/4
mile down you will see a gate and a sign off to the side that says
"Closed for Bad Weather".  This is the place.  There is a $1.00
admission fee and you have to be 18 to enter.  Again, most of the good
stuff is stripped already, and there are a lot of FWD cars, but for what
you find, the prices are great.  Doors for $25, Sway Bars for $6, and so
on.  Most of the cars seem to be minimally rustd, which is suprising! 
Hope this helps oyu and anyone else looking for a good junkyard.
Thanks,
Brian.

Ray Costanzo wrote:
> 
> Well, i didn't go this weekend, as originally planned.  (I found a Salon to
> buy instead, cool!).  I just remember however that it's the Hazleton exit
> off of I-81.  It may have been exit number 40, can't remember.  I know it's
> right in the vicinity of where (PA)309 intersects with it.  Many Oldses
> there, about 200 or so, I'd say.  Mostly FWD's, but a decent number of
> Cutlasses.  Most of them had the good stuff stripped already, but i was only
> there once and from what I gather they have a decent amount of turnover.
> So, it's all about timing.
> I've heard of EZ pull, where is that?
> 
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass
> Bucks County, PA
> costanzo@netcarrier.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of BRIAN SHANKLE
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 1998 3:08 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Harry's Pull and Save
> 
> This sounds really cool--Harry's U Pull it, that is--I am in Central New
> Jersey, and I always go to a place called EZ Pull and Save which is in
> New Ringgold--Schuylkill County I believe.  There aren't too awful many
> Cutlasses there and I think a great majority of the Caddy's and Delta
> 88's are diesels, but for the parts you find, you can't beat the price.
> I would like to know more about Harry's, and the directions on how to
> get there from Route 1, or I78 or any other main road that may come into
> PA from New Jersey.  Also, do they have a reasonable selection of
> Cutlass and Delta 88 cars?
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 86 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
> 
> Ray Costanzo wrote:
> >
> > Hi there Olds folks,
> > Two questions:
> > 1.  I've been spending most of my time with the newly spawned g-body list,
> > and I'm just wondering how things are going over here.  Is it all calm and
> > cool now?  hope so...
> >
> > 2.  Do I remember hearing a lot of talk about q-jets coming standard on
> > Oldses, and probably many gm's?  My brother and I are hoping to find one
> for
> > his ScoutII, as they supposedly have a good off-road reputation, and I'm
> > just wondering if most Oldses or GM's are likely to have them.  We'll be
> > going to Harry's U-Pull-it, the coolest place around!
> >
> > Thanks for any input...
> >
> > Ray Costanzo
> > 87 409 Cutlass
> > Bucks County, PA
> > costanzo@netcarrier.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:12:47 EST
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts Question

Del-
What you need is called a core support.
Peter

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:44:58 -0700
From: william goodnight <idaholc@primenet.com>
Subject: Classic Olds List

The recent string on "filters" mentions a 
G-body list and a Classic Olds list.  Which one is this?  I used to see
more 50's olds stuff, but now it is mainly post 70 stuff.  Am I missing a
better list?
Bill Goodnight
Goodnight & Associates, Inc.
idaholc@primenet.com
1014 E. Franklin
Boise, Idaho
(208)345-0158

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:50:27 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Nobody? (wind wing)

Ben wrote:
> 
> Here is the question AGAIN!!! 

Pretend this is normal customer service.  Asking louder doesn't
necessarily mean you'll get a response.  We can answer that question. 
If you give me a while to thumb through my body manual here, I can tell
you step by step on how to remove the side vent window.  I gotta run in
a bit, but can answer it when I get back.

Mike Rothe

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:49:13 -0500
From: THOMAS JACQUILLARD <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net>
Subject: Re: Nobody? (wind wing)

Chris Sparks wrote:
> 
> Ben wrote:
> 
> > Here is the question AGAIN!!! Seeing as how nobody answered my Q about
> > wind wings, I'll keep posting till somebody has some sort of
> > information. With all those who have done restorations it's hard to
> > believe that nobody has info on how to remove the wind wings from a 68
> > 442. So, please share the knowledge...
If you are talking about the wing windows in the front doors, then maybe
I can help a little. It's been a long time so bear with me. First thing
is that you must take off the door panel, arm rest, and handles. Then
take off the insulating panel and you should be able to see the mounting
bolts for the front window rail. this is the rail betwenn the wing and
door window. I can't remember if you have to take out the door window or
not, but I remember it being easier if you do. Once you take off the
door panel and insulator it should be apparent as to how it comes out.
If not, E-mail me privately.
T.J.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:57:07 -0600
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: Classic Olds List

Bill,

>G-body list and a Classic Olds list.  Which one is this?  I used to see
>more 50's olds stuff, but now it is mainly post 70 stuff.  Am I missing a
>better list?

I'm sorry about the confusion...and no this is *the* list. :-)

Those of us on the Olds G-body List refer to this list as the "Classic"
list... not so much as for the type of Oldsmobiles discussed, but because
it's the classic Oldsmobile list. Best of the breed so to speak. :-) It's
just a coincidence that the main focus is also classic Oldsmobiles.

This list is for any Oldsmobile, regardless of year, model, or "classic"
status.

Hope that helps clear things up.

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/
 Olds G-body Mailing List    http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:57:24 -0400
From: "Brian Smith" <smithclan@sprint.ca>
Subject: Power door lock  wiring

I am going to install power door locks in my 71 Cutlass SX. I am gettng the
actuators and switches but not able to obtain the wiring harness with them.
I am told the lock actuators for these cars (70-72 A bodies) have the same
type of big round connectors as do the power window motors. My question is
how late were these large type of connectors used. Did the 73-77 A bodies
and 71-76 B&C bodies use them? I would then obtain a harness from one of
those series of cars. My 79 Caprice has the square type of connector to the
lock solenoid in which there are two small metal  terminals, so they changed
the type of solenoid/actuator at least by 77 for the new big cars. Any other
suggestions?

Thanks
Brian
71 Cutlass Supreme SX

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:26:54 EST
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Power door lock  wiring

In a message dated 11/16/98 5:03:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
smithclan@sprint.ca writes:

<< 
 I am going to install power door locks in my 71 Cutlass SX. I am gettng the
 actuators and switches but not able to obtain the wiring harness with them.
 I am told the lock actuators for these cars (70-72 A bodies) have the same
 type of big round connectors as do the power window motors. My question is
 how late were these large type of connectors used. Did the 73-77 A bodies
 and 71-76 B&C bodies use them? I would then obtain a harness from one of
 those series of cars. My 79 Caprice has the square type of connector to the
 lock solenoid in which there are two small metal  terminals, so they changed
 the type of solenoid/actuator at least by 77 for the new big cars. Any other
 suggestions?
 
 Thanks >>
   1975 was the last year they used that plug, in 1976 the terminal ends on
the power window motors are different.

Everett    OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:49:01 -0500
From: Rebel1 <rebel1@raex.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: '65 to '66 control arm interchange/Prothane bushings]

I've got them on my '82 supreme and love them - they do squeak occationally
in the spring after the car has sat for the winter, but other than that I
haven't heard a noise.  Just for reference I've got the full poly set on my
car including the sway bar mounts - no grease fitting either...
Todd Daenzer
'69 rag top - 310hp tied to a 'glide :-(
'75 Supreme - project car....
'82 Supreme - SB, 700R4, 3.73's - Grin!
'86 Supreme - V-8 - daily driver...


Paul Brillhart wrote:

> Subject: '65 to '66 control arm interchange/Prothane bushings
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:49:35 -0600
> From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
> Organization: ERC
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> References: <U17058.911209476@UICVM>
>
> Hi All,
>
>   I'm fairly sure I can do this without a hitch, but thought I'd check
> with the list as well.  I've got a '65 442 and wat to upgrade the
> suspension, but the lower front control arms have different diameter
> bushings than '66 and up Olds.  I have a set of '66 arms and was going
> to swap them in so I can get a set of polyurethane bushings from eithe
> Energy or Prothane.  Do these arms have the same geometries or is there
> a difference that I'm not aware of?
>
>   Also, has anyone used Prothane bushings?  Do they squeek?
>
>  Thanks.
>
> Paul Brillhart

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:55:21 -0400
From: D Frizsell <dfrizsell@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject: Must check out for a while

Just a quick word to let all who might be looking for me know that I am
going to have to check of the list for a while. We have become majorly
understaffed here at work and I have no time here or in the afternoons to
keep up right now. As a result I will most likely be starting a new job. It
is an upgrade...Woohoo!!  I know I am working on some projects for some of
you currently so don't worry, I will remain in contact with you. If anyone
needs me for any reason or wants some Olds Art, you can reach me through
the web sight at
www3.wcu.edu/~dfrizsell

or simply email me at
dfrizsell@wcu.edu

Thanks and I hope to be back soon!!

D-man

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:57:59 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?

the 268 engine was a pontiac product they traded for the 260 olds engine
more strange but true tales...KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?


>
>
>
>
>
>---Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net> wrote:
>>
>> At 02:29 PM 11/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> >I have a chance to buy a 1980 Cutlass crown Royal fro $2000.  I never
>> heard of
>> >this car before.  It has buckets and a console.  It also has a wide
>stainless
>> >steel trim piece going over the roof.  The guy selling it told me
>it had an
>> >experimental engine that olds was trying out that year, a 268 v8.
>Anyone
>> ever
>> >heard anything about this car or engine?
>>
>> I havn't heard of a 268. My first guess is that it has the standard
>260cid V8.
>> I can't imagine GM adding 8 cid to the 260 when that was also the
>first year
>> of the 307.
>
>-----a thought....don't know if you actually talked to the guy or not,
>but if it was an ad,you know how some of these people who set-up or
>take the ad in tend to missunderstand or misquote....maybe it was
>supposed to be 260 V-8.....or maybe the guy just doesn't know any
>better...and you know, those experimental engines are rare, and tend
>to make the car worth more <g>
>just a thought, but if it is something special, keep us updated:)
>             Later,
>>
>>
>
>==
>John McJunkin ( The Sman ) mailto:super442@yahoo.com
>  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
>TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
>1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
>http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
>Check out my Burnout page-send me pics of your's and I'll add it
>-http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:05:58 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts Question

souds like you are describing the-core support
w451973

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:23:50 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose

NEVER use a lube of anykind on a brake hydraulic fitting EVER. Use a good
line wrench on both sides and work it that way if you have silicone brake
fluid available you can use that as a penetrating lube when I say a good
line wrench I mean a Snap-On not a craftsman or buffalo or any other lesser
brand the snap on will not slip.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Poppy30 <Poppy30@email.msn.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose


>Use a good line wrench & heat fitting with torch.When fitting starts to
>glow, work it back and forth while watching that line is not twisting.When
>fitting is moving without line twisting,work it while spraying with alittle
>lube.BE CAREFUL NOT TO START A FIRE AS MOST SPRAYS ARE FLAMABLE!KEEP
>SOMETHING HANDY TO EXTINGUISH FLAMES.Other option is to replace the line
>also.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Elijah <selijah@eznet.com>
>To: olds list <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 10:25 PM
>Subject: replacing brake hose
>
>
>>Passenger side front brake hose where it meets the metal brake line under
>>the fender is Rusted Frozen! I could probably unhook the brake hose clip
>>from the frame but I dont know where that would get me.
>>
>>I have applied liquid wrench to no avail.  Any other idea for getting that
>>upper connection loose?  Any special tools or methods I might try? Is it
>>time for the vice grips and muscle?
>>
>>72 Vista-Cruiser
>>
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:29:16 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: the olds 455 is the same engine of the 455 buick? thanks

oops sorry Joe must have been sleeping when I wrote tha t was working nights
then. Got any coffee?...KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM <Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: the olds 455 is the same engine of the 455 buick? thanks


>Sorry to beat this into the ground, but for the sake of correctness, let me
>address the following:
>
>===============
>
>no no no, no there is little similarity between the two they share  bore
>and
>stroke dimension that is it....KK
>_________
>
>Actually, the Olds 455 has a bore of 4.125" and a stroke of 4.250".  Do the
>math, and you'll find that it actually displaces a little over 454 cubic
>inches.
>
>The Buick 455 has a bore of 4.313" and a stroke of 3.900".
>
>===============
>
>...They are both 455ci, but they share almost nothing in common (the Olds
>is a hellofalot
>better...
>_________
>
>You're right, they share nothing other than the distributor cap and the
>bellhousing bolt pattern, but I suspect that the short-stroke 425 Olds fans
>on the list might take exception to your last comment.  Note that with the
>Stage 1 heads and this revving ability, the Bufords tend to do quite well
>in the quarter mile.  The infamous Stage 1 Buick vs. Hemi GTX upset years
>ago in Muscle Car Review (or whatever they were called at the time) is
>still talked about.
>
>Joe Padavano
>padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
>66 442
>68 W-30
>69 H/O
>69 442
>70 W-30
>
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:33:53 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: killer 442

At 01:50 PM 11/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Was there ever a killer 442? 

Most are tame, and only bite when provoked.
Don't trust the W-30's though, they are a little twichy. 
:)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:50:42 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: killer 442

> >Was there ever a killer 442?

Lest we forget the 68/69 Hurst/Oldses. 34487 (or a few 34467's) is in
the VIN.  They were a 442 in wolf's clothing....SNARL....hahaha.

Mike Rothe

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:42:33 -0500
From: Jim or Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Parts Question

Del

        Most people call it a radiator support or a core support.

Jim Chermack

At 02:21 PM 11/16/98 , you wrote:
>Hello again list.
>
>I got my insurance check on Sat. and I started tearing the bent
>wreckage that use to be the front of my baby off. I was wondering if
>anyone knew the name of this part. It has the lower radiator support
>and then it goes up to where the headlight assemblies mount to. It has
>the top shelf where the hood bumpers and the upper radiator support
>bolt to. It also has the hood latch mechanism attatched to it. What is
>the name of this part? I tried calling it a front clip and everyone at
>the salvage yard thought that I meant from the windshield up. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>Del
>
>
>
>
>==
>Rock-Man's Page http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
>rockman20@yahoo.com
>1986 Honda Accord DX
>1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
>1981 John Deer Snowmobile
>197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
>1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:55:14 -0500
From: Jim Olson <jolson@edzone.net>
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose

Kerry, 

I would have to argue the point on the Craftsman wrenches. I love my
SnapOns, and normally wouldn't buy anything else, but my Craftsman
wrenches and Allen brand wrenches are very dependable. 

By the way, I still have a few parts available:
*central michigan area*

'85 Cutlass Supreme 
Front Clip - $75
Blue Bucket seats - $50
Front Bumper - $25
Rear bumper - $20
Blue console & floor shifter - $50
Rally Gauge package - $50
77 350 w/ bad valve - $75

If you want pics, I have them available to email to you personally.

Jim...

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:02:58 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: vent window removal (if not interested, delete)

Ok, here we go.  First, you have to remove the door window and regulator
assembly. (these are held on by bolts around the shafts that protrude
from the door sheetmetal)

Remove the vent frame to door panel bolts.  Two up under the front and
rear right below the vent window on the inside of the door.  The rear
bolt holds the trim pad retainer.

Take out the vent window lower frame adjusting stud.  It's about 1/4 the
way down from the top of door, toward the front.

Then the division channel lower adjusting stud needs to be removed. 
It's directly under the vent window, near the bottom of the door.

The instructions say to lift the vent assembly upward, then rotate it so
that the division channel lower attaching bracket clears the beltline
adjacent to the rear guide.  This means you need to tilt in in slightly,
then rotate the FRONT of the vent window outward, to allow the bracket
to clear.

Hopefully this will help.  These instructions are for the Sport Coupe,
in other words, the framed doors.  If you have the "hardtop" style, with
no frame, it's even easier.

If you have the hardtop style, let us know, and I can go through that
process too.

I decided to post this publicly, since there may be some of you out
there that need to do this, but aren't sure where to start.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:17:44 EST
From: Cutw29@aol.com
Subject: Headers

I just have a quick question for you guys.  I have a set of headers for my 350
that I want to clean up.  Can you sandblast headers?  A few people I've talked
to have said yes and a few have said no, so I'll leave it up to you guys.  Any
answers would be greatly appreciated.

Steve O
CutW29@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:29:39 -0500
From: Boccadifuoco_Roy_A@bns.att.com
Subject: RE: Coker Wheel

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I went on the Coker web-site and clicked on the vintage wheel and rim
icon.  The picture shown under SSII definitely looks like an all chrome
SSIII.  When I called Vintage Tire, the number listed below, they said
that the SSIII were too new and had no information like bolt pattern
that's why what you see is listed under SSII.  I believe that the all
chrome version of the SSII is the SSIII that we all know & love.  =20

Since they had no information on the SSIII, can anyone who knows for
sure let me know what the bolt pattern is on a SSIII.  Is it the same as=

a SSII?  If so then you can buy these so-called SSIIs in all chrome for
$135 apiece in a 15X8 and paint the inserts and have yourself a repro
SSIII.  According to Vintage, the way to measure bolt pattern is to pick=

a bolt hole and measure from the center of that hole to the center of
the 3rd hole-you would skip the second hole.

By the way, I asked if these were done by the original manufacturer and
was told they were not, but that they were made to O.E.M specs which is
evident in the photo.

Thanks,
Roy Boccadifuoco
boccadifuoco@att.com

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      Wow...in response to a bunch of e-mail about repro-ing the SSIII
      wheels, I went =20
      to http://www.coker.com and they do in fact have them.  Click on
      Vintage Wheels =20
      and they're there...listed under Oldsmobile SSII, not SSIII.  They=

      look a =20
      helluva lot like my SSIII's, but can't always tell by the
      pictures...look to be =20
      all chrome, though (no beauty ring).
      =20
      Worth checking out!
      =20
      Jason K. Adcock
      Blacksburg, VA
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:30:10 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: requested info

peter   now you have my address..Jill called and requested it....

decided to bring taurus to my house..so i could check it out and possibly do
more at 
my leasure...thanks so much for the offer really appreicated...

I know i have a trans and motor...needs heater core..A/C inop..

power windows all work as does radio...

side windows at pull a part $10 each w/s $25 have you ever removed a w/s from 
a junk car???


jeff...

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:34:30 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: JWO address

sorry.

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:33:08 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose

well without hashing this beyond belief the snap-on wrench has a feature
called flank drive it applies pressure to the flat of the bolt nut fitting
or whatever and will not slip and round off the corners the craftsman and a
few other brands have a similar feature now but it is not as good and will
slip...KK
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From: Jim Olson <jolson@edzone.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose


>Kerry,
>
>I would have to argue the point on the Craftsman wrenches. I love my
>SnapOns, and normally wouldn't buy anything else, but my Craftsman
>wrenches and Allen brand wrenches are very dependable.
>
>By the way, I still have a few parts available:
>*central michigan area*
>
>'85 Cutlass Supreme
>Front Clip - $75
>Blue Bucket seats - $50
>Front Bumper - $25
>Rear bumper - $20
>Blue console & floor shifter - $50
>Rally Gauge package - $50
>77 350 w/ bad valve - $75
>
>If you want pics, I have them available to email to you personally.
>
>Jim...

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:38:58 -0700
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: Olds Ads

Found these ads. Usual disclaimers apply.
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Car  1971, Oldsmobile Cutlass, 79K miles, $450/OBO

Options  Exterior Color - Black
Interior Color - Black
8-cyl.
Two Door
Automatic Transmission

Description  350 engine runs good, needs minor repair. $450. or best offer
call after 6:pm weekdays

(815) 232-7716
Freeport, Illinois 61032

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Car  1966, Oldsmobile Toronado, 90K miles, $400/OBO

Options  Interior Color - Black
8-cyl.
Air Conditioning
Power Windows
Classic Car
Two Door
Automatic Transmission

Description  This Tory is a somewhat rough but very restorable car that can
be started and driven ( not legally ) and could be a real peach with the
application of some TLC. I don't have time to work on it, so please help
preserve this handsome piece of American history. ( This car is priced WAY
below it's actual value. I can't store it where it is any longer.)

(315) 476-7197
Syracuse, New York 13207


See picture here:
http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P188+C14+A0+R371864+Q152470333

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