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oldsmobile-digest     Tuesday, December 15 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1667



Heater Core Problem
Re: oil pumps and restrictors
RE: crankshaft drilling/adaptor bearing
Re: 8000 rpm 350 [425]
MAKING WEB PAGE, READ
Re: MAKING WEB PAGE, READ
Re: MAKING WEB PAGE, READ
'72 Custom Cruiser parts needed
16" rims and tires for a '70 442
I'm Back & '64 Olds Question
Re: Olds in Movies
Re: FARGO
Christmas Greetings!
69 H/O #922
Re: Why no Victor intake for the Battens?
Re Translator needed
Re: G body brakes
Re: best place to buy battery sheet metal
Re: G body brakes
Re: Translator needed
Re: Why no Victor intake for the Battens?
Re: Heater Blower Relay (a thread off of 
Re: Olds problem
Re: Nice weather
about your site
Re: Wanted! a set of Batten Heads
Re: Re: 700R4 tranny w/not shift to 3rd @WOT
Re: ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A 73 CUTLASS S 455/4SPD?
Re: FARGO
Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: 70-72 W-30 Hood Stripes]]]
Re: Re: 700R4 tranny w/not shift to 3rd @WOT
your site
PF-31 Oil Filters
Re: parts car, session 5
H/O "D" Heads
Re: Translator needed
Re: H/O "D" Heads
Re: 68 442 convert found?
Re: 68 442 convert found////
Re: H/O "D" Heads
Re: Attn Joe P. Re: Heater Blower Relay (a thread off of "70 A/C Wiring")
Re: 68 12 bolt
Re: 68 12 bolt
Re: The "Goober" with the Cutlass
Re: ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A 73 CUTLASS S 455/4SPD?
Re: FARGO
Oops
hood hinge 
Re: 8000 rpm 350 and some parameters
Stop the FARGO thread!
Re: 8000 rpm 350 and some parameters
Re: 8000 rpm 350 [425]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:22:13 EST
From: DLSCOTIN@aol.com
Subject: Heater Core Problem

I have a 1965 Oldsmobile Cutlass Convertable. This weekend I tried to change
the heater core and ran into a problem. I was able to get the 5 nuts of the
core blower case and the one directly below the blower. I could not get the
screw on top above the blower out. Do I have to take off the fender or is
there an easier way to get at that last screw?

Please help, Thanks

John

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:34:40 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: oil pumps and restrictors

Since Chris knows some of my history with high volume oil pumps in an Olds, I
will post this for everyone's benefit.
When I built the current engine in my car back in '84, I did not know anything
about restrictors.  I did know about lifters clattering in the previous 455
with a stock pump after a high RPM blast.  Lack of oil supply would let the
lifters collapse occasionally.  The new engine received a high volume pump to
prevent lifter collapse.  The pump cured that problem as I have not had a
lifter collapse due to oil starvation since.  I do have another problem
though.  If I get one quart low on oil the gauge will start fluctuating a
small amount at highway speed.  The pump is trying to empty the pan of oil.  I
never had this problem with a stock pump.  As long as I have 5 quarts in the
system, the engine "seems" to have enough oil.  In reality it probably is
close to the danger zone at all times.  As for help with Chris' dilemma, I
would recommend a high volume pump with restrictors for a high winding 350.
The restrictors should keep the pump from emptying the pan, but still let
enough oil flow to the top end during a hard run.  I think you need to find a
balance between the extremes of the stock vs. high volume pumps.  The
restrictors will let you do that with a high volume pump.

Just my $.02
Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:52:22 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: RE: crankshaft drilling/adaptor bearing

You trim off a small amount (about 3/8 in. leaving about 5/8 of tip) so the
shaft does not bottom out against the un-drilled crank and the new bearing
sets in the recess that the torque converter nose would normally set in.  The
shortened shaft then goes into the new bearing.  Quite simple and painless.
You just have to use this type of bearing with the circumcised tranny.

I would guess this fix will be applicable to all GM engines since the manual
transmissions and the torque converters
for automatics generally fit everything anyway.  I looked at these bearings
last summer at Dick Miller's display in Springfield and said, "gee, why didn't
I think of that".   Greg Rollins has also supplied info about these and is a
fellow list member so I would go to him for the parts as a first choice.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

2:52 pm est

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:14:24 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: 8000 rpm 350 [425]

Okay, so now what about 350 Vs. 425.  Can the 425 spin fairly high as well
(like 6000) with not too much work.  I have another 455 core and have a hard
time finding a 425 but if I ever ran into one, will it spin high.  I like
350s but for heavy cars 425s have more cubes.

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:20:49 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: MAKING WEB PAGE, READ

I am finally in a process of making a web page for my cars.  I would like to
include a few people form this list.  IF anyone wishes that his/her link be
included, PLEASE speak up now.  I have no problem with adding anyone.  Igor.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:13:25 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: MAKING WEB PAGE, READ

Igor T. '81 DRB 455 wrote:
> 
> I am finally in a process of making a web page for my cars.  I would like to
> include a few people form this list.  IF anyone wishes that his/her link be
> included, PLEASE speak up now.  I have no problem with adding anyone.  Igor.

Sure Igor, you can include me, what is your address?

- -- 
***********
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
***************************
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (350 V-8 4 bbl)
1975 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (250 I-6 1 bbl)
1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (350 V-8 2 bbl)
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4 bbl)
*******************************************
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
*******************************************

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:10:01 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: MAKING WEB PAGE, READ

>Sure Igor, you can include me, what is your address?


No problem. I don't know yet.  When I get my page done, I will either put it
on Geocities or by Internet Provider Server.  I have to check with the
space, etc. of both.

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:39:24 -0800
From: "Mike Jones" <mike@gleep.com>
Subject: '72 Custom Cruiser parts needed

Prezados gentlemen. They forgive me for sending this in Portuguese
language. I
possess a Oldsmobile 88 Station Wagon " Custom Cruiser " 1972, V-8 455.
Here in
Brazil she is very difficult to keep it therefore, beyond the difficulty
with the
importations and, for tartar itself of an old vehicle, the proper importers
in do not supply
catalogues to them of parts spare. I acquired this vehicle in 02/08/82 and
I have true
passion for it. I always looked for to keep twirling it, with original
parts. 
Pra if to have an idea of the found difficulties, this carriage used tires
L 78-15
BFGoodrich. With very cost, I obtained to acquire the tires P-76 HR 78-15
FB SC
Pirelli, manufactured here exactly in Brazil for exportation. It occurs
that already it has
10 long years I try to buy them and the Pirelli informs that does not
manufacture them
more. Thus, not only with the tires, I have found difficulties to acquire a
new Carburetor
Rochester 4-Jet, therefore the importer informs that they do not
manufacture them more,
as well as others some item, as the electric dumping back glass. They exist
half to acquire them?
Exists a catalogue of parts to be supplied? How to acquire it? 


It will be that for some caridosa soul exists there that can translate this
email? I wait that
yes and I consider as a miracle of Christmas. 
I wait, if possible, a reply! 
Happy Christmas to the all and wonderful a 1.999 

biratã Cobra Kaiser Leite cobra@goldnet.com.br Is Jose of the Black River -
São
Paulo - Brazil 

I know the babelfish.altavista.digital.com translator isn't that great, but
it can come in handy sometimes.

Looks like he is also interested in a backglass too.
Darn, I have the # of a '71 Custom Crusier here in town!  It would have the
glass, but it's got a 2bbl instead of the Q-jet.  Several trips to local
yards would fix that.  Would 235/70VR15s be close to the stock size?  I
know of a shop that is about 2 hours drive from here that sells used tires
from law enforcement vehicles (hence the V rating) 
Usually, after the CHP runs over a nail, they discard the tire, this dude
gets a hold of them, patches them from the inside, and re-sells them. 

Mike Jones
'78 Delta 88
mike@gleep.com
 
(sorry if this has been translated already)

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 07:52:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: Edwin Burger <erb22@yahoo.com>
Subject: 16" rims and tires for a '70 442

Hello!

I was considering putting 16" rims and tires on my '70 442.  What is
the maximum size rim/tire combo I can fit without cutting anything? 
If anyone has pictures of thier car with 16" rims, please send them to
me.

Thanks,
Ed


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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:09:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Kimberly Ann Wandrey <kaw0006@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Subject: I'm Back & '64 Olds Question

Hi Guys and Gals!

I really missed you! I took my final from h@!! this evening and wrapped up
the semester from $#@!. I hope you all and your Oldsmobabies are doing
well. :) 

I have a chance to purchase a '64 Olds F-85 for $200. It runs
(barely) but I have a fresh 350 to drop in it. My questions so far are:

1. Are they easy to get parts for (like the front end, brakes etc). I have
a 350 I can use, and I know about those parts. :) 

2. This may seem like a strange question, but how did it handle in the
rain? Driving Junior in the rain can be quite adventurous because Junior
loves to hydroplane and we have had a few too many adventures going around
and around (alright, I can hear the women driver jokes already! ;) ) and I
want to buy something that is not as much of a handful in the rain. 

The '64 would make a cool driver, and I have most of the parts for the
initial rebuild/restore already. I know I was supposed to get  a truck,
but if this deal goes through, I will be buying the best vehicle I can! :)

Thanks bunches in advance and take care!

Love and Happy Holidays, 
Kim Wandrey & Junior ('72 Cutlass Supreme) soon to be retired, I hope! :)
Dallas, Texas
Member OCA & NTOC
Come see us at the Lone Star Nationals in '99! :)  

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 03:00:12 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Olds in Movies

At 02:36 PM 12/12/98 , you wrote:
>well you are off by a year on the judge its a 70
>396 was right


Oooohhhh....I went to high school with Esteban Powell, who played "Carl"
(the blonde fish with the attitude), and I have seen that move about a
million times....and I would hasten to say that "Melba Toast" (Wooderson's
Chevelle) was a 454.

Tragically, my copy is in Houston, and the transcript
(http://home.clara.net/maverick/dazed/) doesn't mention displacement, but I
could have sworn...

E-mail me privately if you think that there are those who would object to
this "non-Olds" (but still B-I-T-C-H-I-N') content...


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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:40:31 -0600
From: "Ryan Hehn" <ryanh@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: FARGO

><< *sigh* I hate to interupt the list like this, but I saw the movie when
>it first came out. Still haven't seen the whole thing. I am from
>Fargo, North Dakota. I know of all the areas where they shot that
>movie. BUT, we do not talk like they have us talking! I don't know
>where they got that accent from, but in my opinion, it makes us all
>look stupid up here. Just PLEASE, don't judge Fargoan's because of
>this movie! We do not talk like that "Don'tchya know eh?"
>
>Del
>== >>
>
>I used to work for a tele-survey company, we did a project where we called
all
>over Canada, and I did encounter that accent a lot.  Maybe they were
looking
>too far south.
>
>DrkSole96
>73 Cutlass Supreme

Give me a break, I'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba (120 miles north of Fargo) and
we *DO NOT* talk like they do in the movie.  I've been into North Dakota and
Minnesota numerous times and they speak very much like we do.  Fargo was a
severe exaggeration if anything...  We can only be accused of using 'eh'
from time to time. (huh?)

A person I worked with that was of Swedish origin mentioned that in the past
many Swedes had immigrated to the North Dakota/Minnesota area.  He thought
it might be a play on that segment of the population.

It's good to know that there's some Olds-list guys not to far south of the
border, though...  Just keep a lid on that Red River this year please.

My Oldsmobile is running great BTW (since this message had virtually no Olds
content)...

Ryan, eh?

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:21:50 EST
From: GBodyLover@aol.com
Subject: Christmas Greetings!

Just wanted to tell everyone to have a Merry Christmas. I'm going to be off
work for the week, and nowhere near a computer, so I figure'd I wish you all
the best now. Just remember to play safe over the holidays. No drinking and
driving, or running around outside naked (unless of course you live in a warm
climate or you really like the cold!).
In any case, have a great time, and I'll talk to all of you later on!

John
P.S. to all the Car people, since it's the Christmas season, does that mean we
have to be "nice" to all the poor unfortunate souls driving around in FoMoCo
products?

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:30:40 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: 69 H/O #922

Hi folks. FYI

Got a couple pics on my web page of one of the very last documented H/Os
to be converted in 69.  It has a tranny tag number of 1922, which means
it is the 922nd W46 optioned car to roll off the assembly line.  Highest
number on record.

See it and a pic of it and the tranny tag "OH" at 

http://www.xtalwind.net/~hurstolds/rocket3.html

It's about 1/2 way down the page.  A bit rough, but historical.
Mike Rothe

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:15:00 -0500
From: David Brode <dbrode@hereintown.net>
Subject: Re: Why no Victor intake for the Battens?

> Ken,

 Gee, i wonder why Edelbrock has stopped making the intake that fits the 
Batten heads? I
bet Batten will come out with his own soon.
Dave Brode

> Subject: Re: Batten vs Edelbrock flow #s
>
> David,
>
> The limiting factor with the Batten heads are the limited intake choices.  At
> one time Edelbrock made a Victor for the Olds SB when some NASCAR teams were
> experimenting (A.J. Foyt's NASCAR team was one of them) with true Rocket
> power.  But no more, you have to keep your eyes open for one at a swap meet.
> The other choice is a fabricated tunnel-ram style intake, this works OK for
> the strip but for street and other types of racing this is no choice due to
> track rules or driveability (for the trip TO the strip!)  I wish there was a
> better selection of intakes for those heads, I bet I could get them (the
> heads) SCCA approved for my Solo I and II Prepared Cutlass.
>
> The Edelbrock heads do have the option of using the Performer RPM for SB
> Oldses since it has the additional material to port-match, but to get any
> respectably high compression ratio you'll have to go with a set of custom
> pistons with domes on them.  I'll probably get a set of Edelbrock heads when
> it looks like we'll get the project off the ground.
>
> Take Care,
> Ken Snyder
> Kansas City, Kansas
> KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:39:11 -0500
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re Translator needed

English:


              Prezados gentlemen. They forgive me for sending this in
Portuguese
              language. I possess a Oldsmobile 88 Station Wagon " Custom
Cruiser "
              1972, V-8 455. Here in Brazil she is very difficult to
keep it therefore,
              beyond the difficulty with the importations and, for
tartar itself of an old
              vehicle, the proper importers in do not supply catalogues
to them of parts
              spare. I acquired this vehicle in 02/08/82 and I have true
passion for it. I
              always looked for to keep twirling it, with original
parts. Pra if to have an
              idea of the found difficulties, this carriage used tires L
78-15 BFGoodrich.
              With very cost, I obtained to acquire the tires P-76 HR
78-15 FB SC Pirelli,
              manufactured here exactly in Brazil for exportation. It
occurs that already
              it has 10 long years I try to buy them and the Pirelli
informs that does not
              manufacture them more. Thus, not only with the tires, I
have found
              difficulties to acquire a new Carburetor Rochester 4-Jet,
therefore the
              importer informs that they do not manufacture them more,
as well as others
              some item, as the electric dumping back glass.   They
exist half to  acquire them? Exists a catalogue of parts to be supplied?
How to acquire it?

              It will be that for some caridosa soul exists there that
can translate this
              email? I wait that yes and I consider as a miracle of
Christmas.

              I wait, if possible, a reply!

              Happy Christmas to the all and wonderful a 1,999

              Ubiratã Cobra Kaiser Leite cobra@goldnet.com.br Is Jose of
the Black
              River - São Paulo - Brazil

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:17:52 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: G body brakes

In a message dated 12/14/98 2:54:28 PM EST, DYeager535@aol.com writes:

<< My question is, did ALL G-BODY GM CARS COME WITH WIMPY BRAKES? >>

Seems to me some of the newer vehicles do!  I was driving my wife's expl*rer
and nearly hit a car that stopped short in front of me. With ABS and all,
there just wasn't enough stopping power. I'll take my Delta without ABS (disc
front/drum rear-and weighs more that the f*rd) anytime!

Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv. (Duals of course)

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:20:16 +0000 (GMT)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: best place to buy battery sheet metal

George,

I can back up what Mike says. I just got done tearing off my radiator
core support. It goes down from the headlights, bends over, and then
bolts to the inner wheel-well.

Del


> >The place it is rusted out is basically just around the battery
tray. I 
> >think this is not what you mean with radiator support, is it?
> >
> Sorry George but I just went out and looked on my 68 and that
> is the core support.  Runs behind the headlights, kicks out at 45
> degrees, and then runs flat under the batt.  Someone good at 
> fabricating could replace that section for you (possibly even use
> the other side off an equally trashed core support).  The problem
> is that if that person is not you will probably cost as much as
> replacing it anyway.  Really like the idea of using the pass side
> to fix the drivers side, though.
> 
> Mike B

==
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1986 Honda Accord DX
1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
1981 John Deer Snowmobile
197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:26:13 -0500
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: G body brakes

I'll take my Delta without ABS (disc
>front/drum rear-and weighs more that the f*rd) anytime!


Thats a tough one.. that Explorer is pretty heavy.. specially if u have the
4 door flavor.

Ken

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:38:50 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Translator needed

> I wait that yes and I consider as a miracle of Christmas.
> I wait, if possible, a reply!

I haven't seen a challenge like this for finding parts since
we all tried locating Esko Iola's '64 Olds ignition switch and 
shipped it to Finland. Anyone have those parts sitting around?
(carburetor, tires and rear-window glass, I think...?)

- -- Andy

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:36:19 -0800
From: "bobetta stewart" <bstew@netcnct.net>
Subject: Re: Why no Victor intake for the Battens?

The victor jr intake can be used with a appox 2 in plate , this is useful
for port matching. I have this set up and it works good. 68 442 post
backhalfed ,  runs 10.47 and 127 at the track. This is on the rev liminter
as it is turning 6800. Any ? just ask chuck ziegler

- ----------
> From: David Brode <dbrode@hereintown.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Why no Victor intake for the Battens?
> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 3:15 AM
> 
> > Ken,
> 
>  Gee, i wonder why Edelbrock has stopped making the intake that fits the
Batten heads? I
> bet Batten will come out with his own soon.
> Dave Brode
> 
> > Subject: Re: Batten vs Edelbrock flow #s
> >
> > David,
> >
> > The limiting factor with the Batten heads are the limited intake
choices.  At
> > one time Edelbrock made a Victor for the Olds SB when some NASCAR teams
were
> > experimenting (A.J. Foyt's NASCAR team was one of them) with true
Rocket
> > power.  But no more, you have to keep your eyes open for one at a swap
meet.
> > The other choice is a fabricated tunnel-ram style intake, this works OK
for
> > the strip but for street and other types of racing this is no choice
due to
> > track rules or driveability (for the trip TO the strip!)  I wish there
was a
> > better selection of intakes for those heads, I bet I could get them
(the
> > heads) SCCA approved for my Solo I and II Prepared Cutlass.
> >
> > The Edelbrock heads do have the option of using the Performer RPM for
SB
> > Oldses since it has the additional material to port-match, but to get
any
> > respectably high compression ratio you'll have to go with a set of
custom
> > pistons with domes on them.  I'll probably get a set of Edelbrock heads
when
> > it looks like we'll get the project off the ground.
> >
> > Take Care,
> > Ken Snyder
> > Kansas City, Kansas
> > KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:51:15 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Heater Blower Relay (a thread off of 

> I've been puzzling about the possibility of replacing the AC
> switch with a non AC switch as well as using the non AC resistor
> and ditching the blower relay.
>
> Your point about diverting the high current draw away from the
> switch makes sense.
>
> However, I wonder.
>
> Is the non AC switch heavier duty than the AC so that it can take
> the higher current draw?

Given your point that non-A/C systems don't use the relay, I was
wondering what else would be the reason. It's been ages since I
had one of those control panels apart, but is it possible that
there's a second switch in there on the A/C MAX setting which
also triggers the HI speed? Perhaps it was cheaper to engineer
lighter switches for the control which would then trigger a relay
under the hood, connected by lighter, cheaper wiring between
switch and relay than the fat gauge required otherwise.

In any event, I would retain the high-speed bypass relay because
the dash switches _do_ melt and I've replaced a couple. Without
the relay you also need to run fat wiring all the way to your
dash and back out again. If you don't like the look of the relay
under the hood, I would just relocate it somewhere else, such as
next to the horn relay, wherever that is.

And someone also mentioned that the A/C fan _sounds_ more powerful
than the non-A/C equivalent, even though it's the same blower. I'd
guess that the different ducting between A/C and non-A/C cars might
have something to do with it, plus the MAX A/C setting recirculates
the air inside the car and sounds a lot noisier while doing it.

- -- Andy


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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:53:40 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Olds problem

> My 87 cutlass ciera is starting then sputtering out 5 seconds
> later. If I rev the engine it will start on the second or
> third try.
> -----------------------------------------
> Choke stuck? Fuel filter clogged? Water in the gas?

I vote for clogged fuel filter, especially if it's an injected
engine. It takes too long to get fuel pressure up. Has the
filter been replaced recently? At all?

If replacing the filter doesn't help, the pump might be tired...

- -- Andy

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 07:07:57 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nice weather

The performer does, the rpm does not.

>Does it hit even with an edelbrock intake?
>
>JoeB
>
>
>On Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:20:16 EST Gutlass66@aol.com writes:
>>Not quite sure if you know this, but an Edelbrock Carb wont fit on a 
>>Olds
>>without a spacer, the linkage thingie hits the manifold.
>>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:26:25 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Re: Wanted! a set of Batten Heads

WMACHINE,

I have a set of aluminum Batten heads on my drag car. I am not aware that 
Batten
makes a set of iron heads for the Olds. Just looked through my '97 catalog and
there are no iron versions listed. Saw the post about ones for sale on 442.com,
are they a Batten casting or just stock heads modified by Batten. One more 
thing
if they are the same as my alum. versions you'll have to have custom headers 
built
or at least the flanges, they don't have the same size exhaust ports. But I'm 
sure
you all already knew that.

Shane Gibreal

WMACHINES@aol.com wrote:

> Hello all and one on the Oldsmobile mail list and digest.  I am in search of 
a
> set of Batten Inc cast iron heads.  They are for a good friend of mine that 
is
> going to race EZ street class in NMCA and NSCA sanction events.  So he wants
> to run a 455 Olds engine that has been bored and stroked to 513 cubic inches.
> Then add a 400hp nitrous system to it to compete.  This is how Bill Travato
> and Jim Craig are racing there Oldsmobiles.  Not exactly like that, but 
close.
>
> This is what the problem is, Batten made both cast iron and alum heads for
> Oldsmobile big blocks.  In order to run EZ street, the heads must be cast
> iron.
> So any help would be appreciated.
>
> W MACHINES (Mark Prince)
> wmachines@aol.com
> 72 442 W-30 race rocket
> see the car that the heads are going on at
> http://members.aol.com/wmachines/site5.html
> and look for Tom Backitis's car.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:29:20 EST
From: AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: 700R4 tranny w/not shift to 3rd @WOT

In a message dated 12/14/98, 11:04:12 AM, oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
<<
are you sure it is 3rd?
700r4's WILL NOT shift into 4th (overdrive ) at WOT
>>
im sure, i hit second gear and thats it my revs hit 6000 rpm and sit there on
the rev limiter 

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:38:53 EST
From: AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com
Subject: Re: ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A 73 CUTLASS S 455/4SPD?

i have a 74

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:41:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FARGO

> I used to work for a tele-survey company, we did a project where we
called all
> over Canada, and I did encounter that accent a lot.  Maybe they were
looking
> too far south.
- ------------------------------------

Too far North. Canada does have that accent a lot. But, we are just
below Canada. Actually, Fargo is on the very Eastern border of North
Dakota and located just a hair south of the middle of the border line.
(Make any sense? *LOL*)

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Date: 15 Dec 98 07:44:33 PST
From: bruce suess <restoman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: 70-72 W-30 Hood Stripes]]]

oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca wrote:
I have a question for you then if you are a painter by trade. Is it not
true in Base/Clear coat systems, let's say DuPont ChromaBase, that 2-3
coats of clear is maximum you should have sprayed. I heard anything more
than that can make the paint crack. 

Second question is when you wet sand a car, how many coats of clear do you
remove? IF you sprayed it with 2 coats, will only 1 then remain?
Pettrix@prodigy.net

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> From: bruce suess <restoman@netscape.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: 70-72 W-30 Hood Stripes]]
> Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 11:12 AM
> 


 >2 good questions

>1st 1.Croma-Base/clear is exellent prod. I have never
seen it crack or check in 15 years of use even with
multi color graffix 5-10 coats of clear.I use MINIMUM
of 3 full wet coats on non metalics twice that w-met.

>2nd 1.You must plan ahead for agressive color sanding
you can lose half or more of the clear coat to remove
ALL moderate orange peel.[varies greatly ]w-shop temp+
humidity.Sand through to the base coat and your in a 
world of hurt.You must leave enough clear for proper
U-V protection.Hope this helps.

restoman.  
> right way to do it.I am painter by trade.
> 
> restoman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >>Use 3-M "fine line" masking tape in 1/8 for the corners
> >I just did the stripes on my 70 442 convrt. In base-clear
> >and there sooo perfect.You will be real disapointed 
> >with stencil results.
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:35:08 EST
From: AGUY4RUMLI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: 700R4 tranny w/not shift to 3rd @WOT

In a message dated 12/14/98, 11:25:28 AM, oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
<<I also had the exact same problem with it staying in 2nd at WOT. It cost me
a lot of races.  I had to get it into 3rd by letting off of the pedal.
Drove me nuts. I had the tranny o'hauled and it still did it!  But only
after it warmed up.  I am guessing a sticky valve body. When I took it to
the strip I disconnected the Throttle Pressure cable and shifted manually.
Try that and see if that works for you.>>
Thanks alot tony. I was thinking of doing this but i was afraid it would hurt
the tranny. Did you talk to someone about disconnecting the cable?Well if i
ever solve this problem ill let you know.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:03:20 -0600
From: "Dave Rench" <renchd@krause.com>
Subject: PF-31 Oil Filters

I was curious to see what the list had to say about these.  As someone
mentioned they are out of production.  Several years ago my father heard
that they had stopped production and went on a mission to buy every filter
he could find (He has a 65 4-4-2 Convertible with a 68 H-O 455) to ensure a
supply for himself and my brother and I (72 4-42 and 70 W-31 respectively).
 Being something of an overachiever, he ended up with 300+ filters.  He has
sold some off through OCA (Journey with Olds ads) and to some Olds vendors.
 

I don't know how many he still has, but it is a good bet that he has at
least 40-50 that he would be willing to sell if anyone is interested.  If
you are interested, e-mail me off list.  I'll be seeing him over the
holidays and can relay any requests.  I don't remember exactly what he was
asking for the filters, I believe it was in the $8-$10 range.  What I was
told about the filter is that it has a higher bypass pressure and being
longer it holds more oil. I do know that it may not fit with some headers
due to it's length.

Dave

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:02:33 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: parts car, session 5

What was actually wrong with this car? You have gotten many parts from 
it?  Was is wrecked or something?



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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:18:46 -0600
From: "Dave Rench" <renchd@krause.com>
Subject: H/O "D" Heads

Since I'm in a posting mood....  My father bought a 455 H/O motor in 1970
(I think it's a '68 motor) to put in his 65 4-4-2 to replace the original
400 (yes he still has the 400).  He had the 455 rebuilt a few years ago and
was told that the "D" heads had some cracks in the valve seat area.  He
bought another set of heads, not D's, and had them installed.  Since then
the H/O heads have been collecting dust.  Is it a difficult repair to fix
heads with this problem?  It seems like a waste to have a desirable set of
heads collecting dust if they can be repaired.   

Dave

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:28:01 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Translator needed

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Andrew C. Green wrote:
> I haven't seen a challenge like this for finding parts since
> we all tried locating Esko Iola's '64 Olds ignition switch and 
> shipped it to Finland. Anyone have those parts sitting around?
> (carburetor, tires and rear-window glass, I think...?)

I agree with Andy; this sure would be a nice gesture to do especially
given the season. Might be useful to actually have someone who could write
back in Portugese though and confirm some details. Anyone out there?

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:30:07 -0600
From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
Subject: Re: H/O "D" Heads

Dave Rench wrote:
> 
> Since I'm in a posting mood....  My father bought a 455 H/O motor in 1970
> (I think it's a '68 motor) to put in his 65 4-4-2 to replace the original
> 400 (yes he still has the 400).  He had the 455 rebuilt a few years ago and
> was told that the "D" heads had some cracks in the valve seat area.  He
> bought another set of heads, not D's, and had them installed.  Since then
> the H/O heads have been collecting dust.  Is it a difficult repair to fix
> heads with this problem?  It seems like a waste to have a desirable set of
> heads collecting dust if they can be repaired.
> 
> Dave


Dave,


  If you're looking into getting them fixed, Batten has a guy called
"Dr. Vulcan" who does nothing but fix cracks in heads.  Look up their
number at 442.com and call them for an indication of how many cracks can
be reasonably fixed and cost.



Paul Brillhart

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:37:40 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 68 442 convert found?

Yea I think I have decided to let this one pass and look for another.  I 
believe (with help from Joe) it would be a extreme project. I am going 
to look for one in a little better shape I guess.  It will be hard to 
find one with all of these options though.

>           Good point. I take my Chevy friend with me when i look at
>Oldasmobiles to buy. He can help go over the car without being blinded 
by the
>fact  like " ohh, it is a convertable, it can't need THAT much work)  
Finally, depending on the price of the car, could you
>take that money and buy another car in better shape that might just 
need some
>mechainal work?.......Just lots to about, but you must be real about 
what it
>will take to get it back on the road.........Good luck   SCOTT


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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:40:30 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 68 442 convert found////

Believe me if it were cheap I would have already bought it. He wants 
$1500.

>             The other thing, this car could be a potental parts car if 
you
>get it cheap enough....or have another convert. lined up to buy....just 
a
>thought......SCOTT


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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:46:43 -0500
From: "Mark Cornea (R)" <mcornea@ford.com>
Subject: Re: H/O "D" Heads

Paul Brillhart wrote:
> 
> Dave Rench wrote:
> >
> > Since I'm in a posting mood....  My father bought a 455 H/O motor in 1970
> > (I think it's a '68 motor) to put in his 65 4-4-2 to replace the original
> > 400 (yes he still has the 400).  He had the 455 rebuilt a few years ago and
> > was told that the "D" heads had some cracks in the valve seat area.  He
> > bought another set of heads, not D's, and had them installed.  Since then
> > the H/O heads have been collecting dust.  Is it a difficult repair to fix
> > heads with this problem?  It seems like a waste to have a desirable set of
> > heads collecting dust if they can be repaired.
> >
> > Dave
> 
> Dave,
> 
>   If you're looking into getting them fixed, Batten has a guy called
> "Dr. Vulcan" who does nothing but fix cracks in heads.  Look up their
> number at 442.com and call them for an indication of how many cracks can
> be reasonably fixed and cost.
> 
> Paul Brillhart

	Dave,
	Here's there phone number: (734) 946-9850
 
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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                             1970 W30 (red)

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:35:31 +0000 (GMT)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Attn Joe P. Re: Heater Blower Relay (a thread off of "70 A/C 
Wiring")

> >However, I wonder.
> 
> >Is the non AC switch heavier duty than the AC so that it can take the
> >higher current draw?
> 
> Mike B (mbloomer@gateway.net) responded:
> 
> >OK going out on a limb here.  What's the possibility of the non AC
> >cars not having the same "high" speed as the AC cars.  All non AC
> >cars I've seen don't have a blower that really kicks like the AC
ones,
> >though they are the same part #.
> 
- -------------------------------------------

Okay guys, I am really going on a limb here. Someone PLEASE correct me
if I am wrong. It is all in with that relay. The relay is sending out
to the blower motor the full grunt of juice. (Just like putting the
Radio Shack power source to it) This allows the company to run only a
small current through the swith to the relay. To back this up, take a
starting system. A small wire goes from the ignition swith tho the
starter relay. But, what kind of wire comes off the relay? A HUGE ONE!
This way the company saves money on the ignition switch and wiring.
Without that relay they would have to have a mondo switch and they
would have to run that huge wire all the way into the car and back
out. Make any sense?

Del
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1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:57:35 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Re: 68 12 bolt

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Mike,

I have a 12 bolt housing 10 bolt ring gear ('O' axle) rear end in my '67
Cutlass. The only place I could find a new posi unit for it was Reider
Racing in California I believe. Their number is . It is a custom built
unit, they have al the gear and acc. you may need. I've been very happy
with mine. If I remember right it cost around $400.00.

mbloomer wrote:

>  OK so from the FAQ and some threads on the list Igather that the Olds
> 12 bolt you can't get aftermarketparts for (posi's etc.) and doesn't
> interchange internallywith the ch*vy 12 bolt.  Am I right?  Saw an add
> on442.com for a 68 12 bolt with 10 bolt internals whichthey said was
> very rare and a 68 only thing.  Hasanyone ever heard of this?  How can
> you identify oneof these.  My 68 has a 12 bolt, open carrier
> w/2.73'swhich I want to upgrade and was basically planningon just
> getting a whole new axle but does anyoneknow of a source for parts
> like posi and gears that willbolt in or can be modified to fit.  Don't
> want to hasslewith rare, expensive parts ... budget ya know.  As faras
> swapping in a ch*vy rearend, I would assume theyoke would be the same
> but does anyone know forsure? TIAMike B
> mbloomer@gateway.net
> ICQ# 19113713
> 72 Cutlass S (RIP)
> 68 Cutlass Supreme



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Mike,

<P>I have a 12 bolt housing 10 bolt ring gear ('O' axle) rear end in my
'67 Cutlass. The only place I could find a new posi unit for it was Reider
Racing in California I believe. Their number is . It is a custom built
unit, they have al the gear and acc. you may need. I've been very happy
with mine. If I remember right it cost around $400.00.

<P>mbloomer wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000000">OK so from the FAQ and
some threads on the list I</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">gather that the
Olds 12 bolt you can't get aftermarket</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">parts
for (posi's etc.) and doesn't interchange internally</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000">with
the ch*vy 12 bolt.&nbsp; Am I right?&nbsp; Saw an add on</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000">442.com
for a 68 12 bolt with 10 bolt internals which</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">they
said was very rare and a 68 only thing.&nbsp; Has</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000">anyone
ever heard of this?&nbsp; How can you identify one</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000">of
these.&nbsp; My 68 has a 12 bolt, open carrier w/2.73's</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000">which
I want to upgrade and was basically planning</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">on
just getting a whole new axle but does anyone</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">know
of a source for parts like posi and gears that will</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000">bolt
in or can be modified to fit.&nbsp; Don't want to hassle</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000">with
rare, expensive parts ... budget ya know.&nbsp; As far</FONT>as swapping
in a ch*vy rearend, I would assume theyoke would be the same but does anyone
know forsure?&nbsp;TIA<FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0>Mike B</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0><A HREF="mailto:mbloomer@gateway.net
">mbloomer@gateway.net</A></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0>ICQ# 19113713</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0>72 Cutlass S (RIP)</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0>68 Cutlass 
Supreme</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000000">&nbsp;</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:59:14 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Re: 68 12 bolt

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Mike,

I have a 12 bolt housing 10 bolt ring gear ('O' axle) rear end in my '67
Cutlass. The only place I could find a new posi unit for it was Reider
Racing, in California I believe. Their number is 313-946-1330. It is a
custom built unit, they have al the gear and acces. you may need. I've
been very happy with mine. If I remember right it cost around $400.00.

mbloomer wrote:

>  OK so from the FAQ and some threads on the list Igather that the Olds
> 12 bolt you can't get aftermarketparts for (posi's etc.) and doesn't
> interchange internallywith the ch*vy 12 bolt.  Am I right?  Saw an add
> on442.com for a 68 12 bolt with 10 bolt internals whichthey said was
> very rare and a 68 only thing.  Hasanyone ever heard of this?  How can
> you identify oneof these.  My 68 has a 12 bolt, open carrier
> w/2.73'swhich I want to upgrade and was basically planningon just
> getting a whole new axle but does anyoneknow of a source for parts
> like posi and gears that willbolt in or can be modified to fit.  Don't
> want to hasslewith rare, expensive parts ... budget ya know.  As faras
> swapping in a ch*vy rearend, I would assume theyoke would be the same
> but does anyone know forsure? TIAMike B
> mbloomer@gateway.net
> ICQ# 19113713
> 72 Cutlass S (RIP)
> 68 Cutlass Supreme



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Mike,

<P>I have a 12 bolt housing 10 bolt ring gear ('O' axle) rear end in my
'67 Cutlass. The only place I could find a new posi unit for it was Reider
Racing, in California I believe. Their number is 313-946-1330. It is a
custom built unit, they have al the gear and acces. you may need. I've
been very happy with mine. If I remember right it cost around $400.00.

<P>mbloomer wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000000">OK so from the FAQ and
some threads on the list Igather that the Olds 12 bolt you can't get 
aftermarketparts
for (posi's etc.) and doesn't interchange internallywith the ch*vy 12 
bolt.&nbsp;
Am I right?&nbsp; Saw an add on442.com for a 68 12 bolt with 10 bolt internals
whichthey said was very rare and a 68 only thing.&nbsp; Hasanyone ever
heard of this?&nbsp; How can you identify oneof these.&nbsp; My 68 has
a 12 bolt, open carrier w/2.73'swhich I want to upgrade and was basically
planningon just getting a whole new axle but does anyoneknow of a source
for parts like posi and gears that willbolt in or can be modified to fit.&nbsp;
Don't want to hasslewith rare, expensive parts ... budget ya know.&nbsp;
As far</FONT>as swapping in a ch*vy rearend, I would assume theyoke would
be the same but does anyone know forsure? TIA<FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT 
SIZE=+0>Mike
B</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0><A HREF="mailto:mbloomer@gateway.net
">mbloomer@gateway.net</A></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0>ICQ# 19113713</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0>72 Cutlass S (RIP)</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=+0>68 Cutlass 
Supreme</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000000"></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:04:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Bryceman <bryceman@442.com>
Subject: Re: The "Goober" with the Cutlass

>I downloaded the redneck mov clip from 442.com and was wondering if
>anybody can tell me what that's from. I'd like to see the whole thing!

It's from the Jesco White, Dancing Outlaw video. Trust me, the clip on
442.com is the only Olds footage on the tape. If you really want to find
out more about the video here's an URL where it can be purchased...
http://www.midicity.com/tour3.html

For the record, I am not recommending this video and I don't own it, just
answering your question.


Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
J. Bryce Smith
Email: bryceman@442.com
Web: http://442.com

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:03:21 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: ANYONE OUT THERE WITH A 73 CUTLASS S 455/4SPD?

 you say you have a 74 with a 455/speed manual trans...I didnt think they made
one in 74...I thought 73 was the last year for the M20 trans

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:06:08 +0000 (GMT)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FARGO

> Give me a break, I'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba (120 miles north of
Fargo) and
> we *DO NOT* talk like they do in the movie.  I've been into North
Dakota and
> Minnesota numerous times and they speak very much like we do.  Fargo
was a
> severe exaggeration if anything...  We can only be accused of using
'eh'
> from time to time. (huh?)
> 
> A person I worked with that was of Swedish origin mentioned that in
the past
> many Swedes had immigrated to the North Dakota/Minnesota area.  He
thought
> it might be a play on that segment of the population.
> 
> It's good to know that there's some Olds-list guys not to far south
of the
> border, though...  Just keep a lid on that Red River this year please.
> 
> My Oldsmobile is running great BTW (since this message had virtually
no Olds
> content)...
- ---------------------------------------------

Yes, the "eh" does come into play in Canada. I should of clarified the
accent isn't like the movie. (My previous post to this) Cap off the
Red huh? How about we build a dam with all the broken down F*rd's and
D*dges out there? Should be enough to dam off the Red! *LOL* To make
this Olds related, I'm thinking about heading up to Canada with my
Olds when I get it done again. Maybe I will have to make a few stops
along the way.

Del 

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:33:11 -0600
From: "Dave Rench" <renchd@krause.com>
Subject: Oops

I posted two messages earlier and did not include an e-mail address to
respond directly.  The address is  renchd@krause.com.  Sorry...........

Dave

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:42:27 -0500
From: "Todd M.Williams" <todd@wvadventures.net>
Subject: hood hinge 

anyone have a hood hinge that will fit a 74 442 i need the passenger side
thanx 
Todd 

todd@wvadventures.net

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:58:10 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8000 rpm 350 and some parameters

In a message dated 98-12-14 20:48:56 EST, you write:

<< Modern metallurgy will allow that to go to 4200 fps. So we'd take that as
the first order redline. Then we'd calculate max piston acceleration *at that
RPM*. >>

At last!

This is the kind of stuff Karl stays on the list for!

Please keep the experience, knowledge and "old saw"s coming!

And thanks to  D.B., M.B., and C/C for their input!
(as well as others He may have ignored)

SOM

&KA

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:09:47 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Stop the FARGO thread!

<< I thought the folks who were talking like that (particularly the 
 pregnant lawperson) were supposed to be from Brainerd, Minnesota... >>

Yah. The Fargo setting is somewhere in a Northwoods setting with forests and
lakes and people who say "Yah". Feels like Minnesota, but allegedly takes
place in Fargo, ND.

The only Olds content is that the puke husband works for (and rips off) an
Oldsmobile dealership.

Karl has much family (both sides) in MN and never cared for the cariacature-
type accents of the characters in the movie.

OK. Karl be fair; Liked "Is it a clue?" " No, think I might throw up!" line
and the Steve Buscemi character... everything else can go.

Now!
That said, leave off!
The accents and speech patterns in the movie are cariacatures of actual
accents and Karl NEVER found them slightly amusing.
[IF you are wondering, Karl has a Chicago accent, though he does say "y'all"
on occasion]

O.K.
Now. Tan Ciera. Big deal.

Can we go back to pronouncing 4 4 2 ?

SOM

&KA

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:18:19 EST
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8000 rpm 350 and some parameters

In a message dated 12/15/98
 12:<BR14:<BR25 PM Central Standard T, KarlAune@aol.com writes:> << Modern
metallurgy will allow that to go to 4200 fps. So we'd take that as
>  the first order redline. Then we'd calculate max piston acceleration *at 
> that
>  RPM*. >>

Karl,

you are welcome. I get so much good information from this list that I am
gratified when something I post is useful.

I wish I hadn't given my tech notebook away so I could look up the formulae
for mps and pa and value for pa. They aren't difficult math and are published
in lots of places, so maybe someone will post them. As to piston accel. I
can't even remember the order of magnitude for the value.

Cheers/Carron

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:16:44 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8000 rpm 350 [425]

In a message dated 98-12-15 01:17:09 EST, you write:

<< Okay, so now what about 350 Vs. 425.  Can the 425 spin fairly high as well
 (like 6000) with not too much work.  I have another 455 core and have a hard
 time finding a 425 but if I ever ran into one, will it spin high.  I like
 350s but for heavy cars 425s have more cubes. >>

Well Igor, Karl's 425 has a good bottom end that is complimented by a S.P.
TH400 for high RPM. Unfortunately for your purposes it pulls much better at
low RPM. But then this example is a mangled single exhaust with a 2 barrel
carb. And Karl can vouch for the fact that there are almost NO (except Joe
Mondello, and that invalidates your low cost clause!) aftermarket parts for
425 motors!

Som

&KA

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