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oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, December 10 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1656



Re: Quadrajets/Holleys/Metering Rods/Fuel Injection/Performance/Fuel Economy/
Re: Quadrajets/Holleys/Metering Rods/Fuel Injection/Performance/Fuel 
Economy/Reliability
Re: 5.0 Mustang Vs. 455
non olds
Re: Wanted! a set of Batten Heads
Re: Olds Vrs. 305 Pontiac....
Re: 5.0 Mustang Vs. 455
Re: Wanted! a set of Batten Heads
brakes H*LP on 70 Cutlass

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:45:00 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Quadrajets/Holleys/Metering Rods/Fuel Injection/Performance/Fuel 
Economy/

>> My question is this: He said that he thought that the Quadrajet was "almost
>> like fuel injection" because of the "metering rods", and that those, with
>> the secondaries closed, only let the right amount of fuel into the process,
>> whereas a Holley just "dumps fuel in there". 

>       I don't think anyone would agree that a Quadrajet is like fuel
>injection : ) (Not me anyway) I just think there are too many differences, at
>least between MPFI, SPFI, whatever.  

He wasn't saying it was "just" like FI, just that...well, I don't really
know what.  I would guess that he was speaking "in relation to a carb that
is not as fuel efficient (while still having "acceptable" performance).
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 MIS Major - UT Austin	 b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu
 2903 Breeze Terrace	 http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ammons/
 Austin, TX 78722	Home :	(512) 236-8088 (Austin)
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	Delta 88	Pager:	(512) 483-8056
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:47:49 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Quadrajets/Holleys/Metering Rods/Fuel Injection/Performance/Fuel 
Economy/Reliability

>One solution (if the problem is not severe) is to get an in-line fuel filter
>and remove the internal one.  This will give the carb a bit more fuel
>capacity and prevent this starvation problem.  I will do this on mine
>because I have the same problem.
> 

I'm reasonably certain that the (appearantly quite small) problem is that
the original W-30 has not been gone through and optimized for his motor, as
it's only a temporay solution until Custom Carb gets their sh*t together.

Anybody else have any experience dealing with Custom Carb in California?
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 Brian Ammons		 Universal Internet # (ICQ) - 3585737
 MIS Major - UT Austin	 b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu
 2903 Breeze Terrace	 http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ammons/
 Austin, TX 78722	Home :	(512) 236-8088 (Austin)
 1984 Oldsmobile		(713) 776-2110 (Houston)
	Delta 88	Pager:	(512) 483-8056
 	  4-door		(713) 318-5938	
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:57:20 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: 5.0 Mustang Vs. 455

Saw a car from Austrailia a few years back.  Their version of
an el camino with either a riviera or Toro transaxle in the bed
with a blown dual quad motor.  Had the stock motor up front
to run the A/C, alt, etc, and to start the motor in the rear.  Talk
about wild!

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net
ICQ# 19113713
72 Cutlass S (RIP)
68 Cutlass Supreme

>>Although, imagine a '81 Delta with a 455
>>>in the front and a complete, detailed 307 in the trunk just for show.
>That
>>>would be cool.  Just joking.
>>
>>
>>No, that really would be cool.
>
>
>It would be kind of neat.  But then imagine the work.  Pull the gas tank
and
>install a remote fuel cell (a decent size one to feed the 455).  Boost the
>car so that the oil pan would not hit the rear-end.  Cut the trunk, weld
>some kind of frame to bolt on the 307.  Since you are already there, add a
>cooling system and a toronado transaxle and make it functional.  Heck, why
>put a 307 when you can have a 455.  I could turn my "daily driver" Delta
>into a 4-wheel drive, dual 455 like that Cutlass from the 70s.  Ohhh,
>dreams, dreams.  Hell, these dreams are doing a pretty good job keeping me
>from studying for my Accounting final on Friday.  I always post a lot of
>questions/comments before finals/tests.  It is some sub-concerns way of
>keeping myself from studying.  GOD DAMN OLDSMOBILES AGAIN.
>
>

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:32:09 -0500
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: non olds

       "Arnold, W D" <w.d.arnold@lmco.com>  said      ( I've been there,
done that, and
got the jeans to prove it !!! )     wow is this a monica thing
?          butch 68 442 post

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:53:49 -0500
From: Bob Dale <bctad5@toolcity.net>
Subject: Re: Wanted! a set of Batten Heads

WMACHINES@aol.com wrote:

> Hello all and one on the Oldsmobile mail list and digest.  I am in
> search of a
> set of Batten Inc cast iron heads.  They are for a good friend of mine
> that is
> going to race EZ street class in NMCA and NSCA sanction events.  So he
> wants
> to run a 455 Olds engine that has been bored and stroked to 513 cubic
> inches.
> Then add a 400hp nitrous system to it to compete.  This is how Bill
> Travato
> and Jim Craig are racing there Oldsmobiles.  Not exactly like that,
> but close.
>
> This is what the problem is, Batten made both cast iron and alum heads
> for
> Oldsmobile big blocks.  In order to run EZ street, the heads must be
> cast
> iron.
> So any help would be appreciated.
>
> W MACHINES (Mark Prince)
> wmachines@aol.com
> 72 442 W-30 race rocket
> see the car that the heads are going on at
> http://members.aol.com/wmachines/site5.html
> and look for Tom Backitis's car.

Mark,I think I recently spied a set forsale at www.442.com in the parts
forsale section. Can`t remember if they were cast iron or not but may
have been. Good Luck, B.D.

Bob-69 Cutlass S 455/400

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:17:23 -0500
From: Bob Dale <bctad5@toolcity.net>
Subject: Re: Olds Vrs. 305 Pontiac....

Igor T. '81 DRB 455 wrote:

> >THats all it is, his rearend, and his 5speed is really low (high #),
> the
> thing
> >ran just under 15 sec at open drags at SIR, just an edelbrock
> performer
> intake
> >and a 600cfm ( i think) qjet, ramair (its homemade), and a kn filter.
>
> That is a pretty good time.  I have a '81 Dodge MaxiVan (got it for
> free
> from girlfriends dad as a parts hauler, van looks rough but works
> great).
> Anyway, it has a 367 motor and a 727 trans.  Motor was rebuilt about
> 50,000
> miles ago with a RV cam and holly 600.  It has 4.10s (used to tow a
> 29').
> It is far from a street machine but is pretty damn good off the line.
> Most
> people have a difficult time to keep up with the huge rust-bucket.  I
> love
> those 4.10s but they yield poor mileage and lousy top speed.  Power is
>
> awesome, though.  I once had it at 5600 RPM in third (about 115 mph).
> It
> must have been airborne couse I could not feel the road anymore (this
> was in
> the country).  This was at 2:00AM and my friend in his '79 GMC (mild
> 350,
> 3.73s) observed from behind as a huge cloud of smoke belted from the
> tailpipe.  I COULD SEE IT IN THE MIRROR AT NIGHT.  Motor ran great
> after
> that.  I never respected MOPARs (dads '95 Intrepid blues) but have a
> different opinion now.  Anyway, my point is that this Van would be
> nothing
> if it were not for those 4.10s.  My dream is 4.10s and a TH700R4 in my
>
> Delta.  If I could hook the tires, it would definitely haul ass.

   Igor,
   With the much lower 1st gear in the 700R4 and the 4:10s you`d really
have some traction problems then. Re-Engineered rear suspension and 30+"
slicks may be in order!
   I`m considering the 700R4 as well but will likely keep my 3:36s. It`s
tuff trying to split the difference but look at the fun yer havin.

Bob-69 Cutlass S 455/400

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:21:54 -0500
From: Bob Dale <bctad5@toolcity.net>
Subject: Re: 5.0 Mustang Vs. 455

Igor T. '81 DRB 455 wrote:

> >Although, imagine a '81 Delta with a 455
> >>in the front and a complete, detailed 307 in the trunk just for
> show.
> That
> >>would be cool.  Just joking.
> >
> >
> >No, that really would be cool.
>
> It would be kind of neat.  But then imagine the work.  Pull the gas
> tank and
> install a remote fuel cell (a decent size one to feed the 455).  Boost
> the
> car so that the oil pan would not hit the rear-end.  Cut the trunk,
> weld
> some kind of frame to bolt on the 307.  Since you are already there,
> add a
> cooling system and a toronado transaxle and make it functional.  Heck,
> why
> put a 307 when you can have a 455.  I could turn my "daily driver"
> Delta
> into a 4-wheel drive, dual 455 like that Cutlass from the 70s.  Ohhh,
> dreams, dreams.  Hell, these dreams are doing a pretty good job
> keeping me
> from studying for my Accounting final on Friday.  I always post a lot
> of
> questions/comments before finals/tests.  It is some sub-concerns way
> of
> keeping myself from studying.  GOD DAMN OLDSMOBILES AGAIN.

   Local guy has built 455 Toro transaxle in VW. One sick ride.

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:21:16 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: Wanted! a set of Batten Heads

>
>Mark,I think I recently spied a set forsale at www.442.com in the parts
>forsale section. Can`t remember if they were cast iron or not but may
>have been. Good Luck, B.D.
>
>Bob-69 Cutlass S 455/400
>
Yep, posted on the 7th and their iron too!  Guy wants $1500 though.
Are they really worth that much?

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net
ICQ# 19113713
72 Cutlass S (RIP)
68 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:36:46 -0500
From: "James E. Brady III" <James.E.Brady.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: brakes H*LP on 70 Cutlass

>Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:53:44 -0500
>From: "jackkopf" <jackkopf@email.msn.com>
>Subject: Re: brakes H*LP on 70 Cutlass
>
>Chk the adjustment of the rear drum brakes and fronts if not disc. Also
>inspect
>the pads and the brake hose's (especially on a 29yr old car).
>jk
Matt,
	Sounds like you have air in your brake lines.  You need to 'bleed' your
brakes.  This is accomplished by opening the bleed valve at each brake.  It
should be a 3/8" fitting and should be done from farthest wheel from the
brake booster to the closest.  These fittings may be frozen so you may want
to squirt them with penetrating oil first.  How is the manifold working?
Installed yet?  I ordered a HEI distributer from Jim Chermack on a Wed. and
it was there be Fri.!  Thanks alot Jim, take car Matt.

Jim Brady

>- -----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmich.edu>
>To: Oldsmobile List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: December 8, 1998 7:07 PM
>Subject: brakes H*LP on 70 Cutlass

1973 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
bradyiii@shore.intercom.net
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/JimDelta.html

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