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oldsmobile-digest     Tuesday, November 17 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1608



grrr...
Re: Front Clip (was RE: Parts Question)
Re: dead cutlass question
intersting spotting...
RE: SSII's
Re: intersting spotting...
Re: intersting spotting...
Parts needed for 1976 98
Re: Is this a Good Story or a Sad Story?
Re: intersting spotting...
whats it worth... 1962 Star Fire Convert.
RE: 68-75+ Olds Parts
Re: Couple of Questions (different dude) (fuel?)
Carb problems was: Part Needed - Intake
Re: whats it worth... 1962 Star Fire Convert.
Re: Front Clip (was RE: Parts Question)
RE: SSII's
Re: Parts Question/front clip?
RE: SSII's
Dick Miller 2nd. annual
Need Q-jet help & parts
Re: SSII's
RE: SSII's
RE: SSII's
RE: SSII's
Slacker...
Suspension
Re: SSII's again
RE: Suspension
75 350 mods
Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?
Re: Cutlass Options/Nice rockit!
Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?
Re: SSII's
Re: Parts Question/front clip?
Re: killer 442
Re: Craftsman tools (was: replacing brake hose)
RE: Parts Question/front clip?
Re: Craftsman tools
Re: 75 350 mods
Re: only scumbags STEAL Olds parts
Re: Parts Question/front clip?
Re: Part Needed - Intake
Re: 455 Lower Radiator hose
about your site
RE: Cutlass Options/Nice rockit!
re: Rallye 350 stripes/location dimensions
Parts interchange
455 in a truck
Re: Craftsman tools (was: replacing brake hose)
SB/BB Head ID

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:59:12 -0500 (EST)
From: zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu
Subject: grrr...

Happened to take a look at the pictures that I posted on Geocities of the
'79 the other day... and noticed the little pop-up window that always
comes up on a Geocities page... it said "Sponsored in part by" then showed
a picture of a jap car... said at the side... www.acura.com

Grrr...

Oh well... it's free... can't complain too overtly... still ironic though
eh?



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     
 |  |  |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 | / \ |     
 |/   \|     1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
  \   /         (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
   \ /          http://www.442.com/pierce.html
    |        1982 Oldsmobile Cutlass Brougham
		(parts car) (307, 4bbl, TH350, 2.14:1, 90k miles)
	     1980 Rover 3500 SD1
	        (215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
     	     1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
		(260 V8, 2bbl, TH350)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/79cutlass.html
		http://www.geocities.com/Athens/4468/oldsmobile/olds.html
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:06:06 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Front Clip (was RE: Parts Question)

>> Even Karl is not certain what is meant by front clip.

Around here.....the front clip is the body section from the windshield
forward. Fenders, hood, core support, grills , bumpers etc.

Basically the whole front of the car. Engine compartment items not included.

Randy

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:09:41 -0600 (CST)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Re: dead cutlass question

Ryan,

> until it died and it would have lived a while longer provided her boyfriend
> kept the radiator full.....
Why the heck is that the boyfriends fault??? Can't women keep the 
radiatiator full???
Well at least you could say that it is the boyfriends fault because he 
did not provide your mom with the knowledge how to check and fill in 
water :)

> from under the hood.  Is the head ruined from the heat to the point of no
> revival? 
It should not be too bad, usually the heads need to be surfaced new. 
Don't junk them without having them checked.

> The reason I ask is because now I will probably get the car for
> parts.  Should I save the heads, the whole motor, the water pump,
> radiator......anything?  
You should keep everything you listed but in my op. you can forget about 
the waterpump. You can get a rebuilt one for 15 bucks so it would make no 
sense to put that thing in a new setup. 

> see almost through the frame just behind the rear wheels....  opinions
> please....
If you have a nice piece of land in front of your house (or better 
trailer...) put it right in front of the trailer and keep mowing the 
grass around the old baby, let it rest in piece and see how the grass 
grows thru those fenders. See what you can take out to use on your 
girlfriends 85 in case something brakes and don't forget to explain to 
her how to check fluid levels, <Grin> Well, if you live in one of those 
neat neigbourhoods where no car can be jacked up longer then a day, you 
could come and put it in my backjard if a trip to Louisiana ain't too 
far. (serious!)

Good luck and sorry about the loss, 
George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:14:59 -0500 (EST)
From: zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu
Subject: intersting spotting...

Saw an interesting car here in Johnson City yesterday.

It was a 1973 Cutlas... convertible!  Painted H/O gold and white... but
with no other markings of any type on it.  Did they make a standard
Cutlass Convertible in 1973?  This car seemed to be in really fine
shape... or had been fixed up properly... couldn't see any bondo spots
under the paint anywhere.  It was parked in an off-limits lot at a
factory... but was right near the road... couldn't get a really close look
at it... but I did pass it back and forth about 4 or 5 times.  Have my
camera with me today... will try and get a picture if it's still there.



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     
 |  |  |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 | / \ |     
 |/   \|     1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
  \   /         (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
   \ /          http://www.442.com/pierce.html
    |        1982 Oldsmobile Cutlass Brougham
		(parts car) (307, 4bbl, TH350, 2.14:1, 90k miles)
	     1980 Rover 3500 SD1
	        (215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
     	     1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
		(260 V8, 2bbl, TH350)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/79cutlass.html
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:38:26 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: RE: SSII's

> Oh, I should probably give a passing mention to the SSIII look-alike
wheels
> used on the FWD Cutlass Ciera and Calais cars in the early 80s.  I have
no
> idea what these were called.  Obviously, they don't fit the RWD cars.

Ack-ack!  Calais cars in the early 80's *were* RWD!!  :-)  Okay, no more of
that...
_________

Yes, you're right.  I wrote the sentence originally to only reference the
Ciera, then I remebered that the Calais also used these wheels.  Obviously
that was post-84, but I didn't rewrite the part about "early 80s".  I used
to own an 85 Calais 500 pace car (with the P.O.S. Iron Duke four cylinder -
please don't pass this on, since it was obviously less than 400 cu in  ;-)

Sorry if I led anyone astray

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:53:33 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: intersting spotting...

zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu wrote:
> 
> Saw an interesting car here in Johnson City yesterday.
> 
> It was a 1973 Cutlas... convertible!  Painted H/O gold and white... but
> with no other markings of any type on it.  Did they make a standard
> Cutlass Convertible in 1973?  This car seemed to be in really fine

Wow, as much as I'd like to believe it was original, there were no
production '73 Cutlass Convertibles. It must have been a kick @$$
conversion though.

> shape... or had been fixed up properly... couldn't see any bondo spots
> under the paint anywhere.  It was parked in an off-limits lot at a
> factory... but was right near the road... couldn't get a really close look
> at it... but I did pass it back and forth about 4 or 5 times.  Have my
> camera with me today... will try and get a picture if it's still there.
> 

YES! Clayton, SEND IT TO ME. This would be a great pic to post on my web
page.
THE ONE AND ONLY....1973 Cutlass Convertible!!!  Make sure you get it
from as many angles as possilbe. THANX Clayton!!!!

- -- 
***********
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
***************************
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (350 V-8 4 bbl)
1975 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (250 I-6 1 bbl)
1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (350 V-8 2 bbl)
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4 bbl)
*******************************************
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
*******************************************

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:42:36 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: intersting spotting...

It was a 1973 Cutlas... convertible!
_________

Was this truly a convertible with a folding cloth top, or simply a 73 that
someone had hacked the roof off of?  These never came this way from the
factory.  There _were_ two 74 H/O "convertibles"  - the two used at the
track as the real pace cars.  Actually, convertible is a misnomer.  These
were open cars with no roof at all.  There was a narrow section of the roof
left in place above the B pillars as a roll bar, but there was no
convertible top at all.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:50:16 -0800 (PST)
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Parts needed for 1976 98

In need of Chrome Bezel and lenses for left rear of 1976, 98.
If anyone has one they would like to sell, please reply privately.
Thank you,



==
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  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442 
1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:50 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: Is this a Good Story or a Sad Story?

The rodder was probably after the nostalgia look of the Olds engine which was
quite popular in the 50's.  As we all know, original early V-8 Olds stuff is
sadly getting hard to find.  One solution is to use early valve covers on the
ch*vy.  Size wise they are very close.  While in Lansing last year I took a
side trip to a shop that makes street rod bodies just north of Lansing.  While
I was there I noticed what appeared to be an early Olds engine in a unfinished
rod.  It was a small block ch*vy with the Olds valve covers and air cleaner
sitting on it.  I was amazed at how close dimensionally the two engines are in
that area.  A thin adapter plate would do the trick.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:08:10 -0500 (EST)
From: zcwp11@Access.ETSU.Edu
Subject: Re: intersting spotting...

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:

> It was a 1973 Cutlas... convertible!
> _________
> 
> Was this truly a convertible with a folding cloth top, or simply a 73 that
> someone had hacked the roof off of?  These never came this way from the
> factory.  There _were_ two 74 H/O "convertibles"  - the two used at the
> track as the real pace cars.  Actually, convertible is a misnomer.  These
> were open cars with no roof at all.  There was a narrow section of the roof
> left in place above the B pillars as a roll bar, but there was no
> convertible top at all.

Definitely had a fabric top... was a real convertible.  Was a very nice
conversion... wonder who it was done by?  Have seen a couple of G-body
convert's around here in the past too... but none recently.


> Joe Padavano
> padavano.joe@orbital.com
> 
> 66 442
> 68 W-30
> 69 H/O
> 69 442
> 70 W-30



    |        Peace, Goodwill, and happy Oldsmobilling,
   /|\       Clayton Pierce,
  / | \      school:  zcwp11@Access.ETSU.edu
 |  |  |     home:  the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
 |  |  |     
 |  |  |     "There's no replacement for displacement!"
 | / \ |     
 |/   \|     1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
  \   /         (RIP) (350, 4bbl, TH400, 3.73:1, 80k miles)
   \ /          http://www.442.com/pierce.html
    |        1982 Oldsmobile Cutlass Brougham
		(parts car) (307, 4bbl, TH350, 2.14:1, 90k miles)
	     1980 Rover 3500 SD1
	        (215 V8, FI, BW66, 85k miles)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/othercars.html
     	     1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
		(260 V8, 2bbl, TH350)
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/79cutlass.html
	     1965 Pontiac Bonneville Sports Coupe
		(389, 4bbl, TH400, 110k miles) "Look ma' no EGR!"
		http://lazarus.ehc.edu/~float/tempclay/bonneville.html

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:18:55 -0800
From: michael r m <miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: whats it worth... 1962 Star Fire Convert.

Hello,
I do not know if I am in the right forum so excuse me if I am. My
mother, who is her late  seventies has asked me to sell her 1962 Star
Fire convert. It was purchased new and has 86000 miles on it and is
truly the genuine thing. It is Honduras maroon metalic/maroon interior,
with a white convertible top. They originally picked up at the factory
and drove it home, to White Rock[Vancouver] B.C. Although the car has
was only used in the summer, it was driven home in the winter. It, due
to this, ended up with some rust in the rear 1/4 panel. Other than this
the car is as new. She was only going to have the rust repaired & she
ended up with a 'frame off ' resto. With this info would it be possible
to advise what the car is worth is in U.S. $$$??? I so far have not been

able to get a price as there seems to be none for sale for a comparison.

I know that there are very few convertibles around, for other than hers,

I have only seen one other in all the years she has owned it. I do know
that there were supposedly 7149 built. They must have mainly been sold
in the U.S.  It was an import at the time. They paid $7500.00 for it
new. Then again I bought my first new car, a 1963 Impala, 300 hp. 4
speed et. for $3400.00 on the road, from the same dealer ship. The Olds.

was over twice the price. Hey... when Suzuki Fire Fly's are selling for
over $11000.00 what is the car worth in relation...a couple of million.!

I wish & pigs fly eh! Any way, things have sure changed and certainly
not for the better. Point.... would really appreciate some input if
possible, including  where a good place to advertise it would be. Again
excuse me if I am in the wrong forum. If so, please advise whom I could
direct this message to. Thanks.
Kindest Regards
Michael R. Melenchuk
Ph.{604} 530-7309     E-mail....miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca   [ P.S.] Can
e-mail photos

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:01:03 -0700
From: "B. Sanders" <blaines@strata3d.com>
Subject: RE: 68-75+ Olds Parts

>  do u reply when someone e-mails you?how about those side marker
> lights? do u
> still have them? do u want to sell them?help me out.
>  give me a call or e-mail me
>        (305) 821-8297
>        cnc40@aol.com
>        70 cutlass conv.

Jim has been really bad at responding to his e-mails lately.  I wrote him a
month and a half ago and ordered a part, and he never responded with the
total.  So I wrote him again a month ago, then again 2 weeks ago, and he
still hasn't responded.  I guess he just doesn't want to do business with me
any more...

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:28:27 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Couple of Questions (different dude) (fuel?)

In a message dated 98-11-15 10:36:18 EST, you write:

<< .... and I do have the filter before the fuelpump (opposite your advice) in
hopes of maybe prolonging the life of the pump .... >>

[hallucination begins]

Karl currently uses an in-line filter before the fuel pump.
Also believe that this helps the fuel pump some..

BTW - good idea to change this filter more often than necessary, as a filter
which has caught debris becomes a flow restriction........

However, have recently mused that perhaps ideal setup is with filters before
and after pump, to catch any debris from decay in the fuel pump, metal
fittings......

[hallucination ends.... ]

SOM
&KA

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:28:26 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Carb problems was: Part Needed - Intake

In a message dated 98-11-16 20:21:09 EST, you write:

<< The problem is that Once upon a time, when the mechanic screwed up my early
model 455 block, they replaced it with the later model 455.  Normally no
biggie...Well not until my Carb died.  I scraped up the money to get it fixed
but found 
 out that since it is an early Qjet there isn't any real way to get the choke
hooked up and working properly. >>

OK, gotta ask.
What is so different now than before when it worked?
Did the carb get replaced with an earlier Q-jet?

<< I had the option of rigging the choke which solution would have me cut
through my air cleaner, purchase a new carb (that will fit the intake), or
purchase a new intake to match the carb...Since the carb was just rebuilt and
I really don't want something rigged (not to mention a whole in the
cleaner)...That leaves 
 me with one option.... >>

Of those options, Agree that you should avoid damaging air cleaner shroud. New
(old) intake is easiest.

Still a little confused here.
You have been tooling around in a later 455.
So carb worked in this setup.
Then carb died.

Was carb rebuilt???
Or was it exchaned as a core for a rebuilt carb??

Or what is suddenly different??

Karl is hoping that perhaps a choke part might be located for you rather than
shipping a 70-pound intake!

Good luck!

K

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:37:52 -0600 (CST)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Re: whats it worth... 1962 Star Fire Convert.

Right forum. For the price, look in old cars price guide a little 
magazine sold in bookstores.

George
- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, michael r m wrote:

> Hello,
> I do not know if I am in the right forum so excuse me if I am. My
> mother, who is her late  seventies has asked me to sell her 1962 Star
> Fire convert. It was purchased new and has 86000 miles on it and is
> truly the genuine thing. It is Honduras maroon metalic/maroon interior,
> with a white convertible top. They originally picked up at the factory
> and drove it home, to White Rock[Vancouver] B.C. Although the car has
> was only used in the summer, it was driven home in the winter. It, due
> to this, ended up with some rust in the rear 1/4 panel. Other than this
> the car is as new. She was only going to have the rust repaired & she
> ended up with a 'frame off ' resto. With this info would it be possible
> to advise what the car is worth is in U.S. $$$??? I so far have not been
> 
> able to get a price as there seems to be none for sale for a comparison.
> 
> I know that there are very few convertibles around, for other than hers,
> 
> I have only seen one other in all the years she has owned it. I do know
> that there were supposedly 7149 built. They must have mainly been sold
> in the U.S.  It was an import at the time. They paid $7500.00 for it
> new. Then again I bought my first new car, a 1963 Impala, 300 hp. 4
> speed et. for $3400.00 on the road, from the same dealer ship. The Olds.
> 
> was over twice the price. Hey... when Suzuki Fire Fly's are selling for
> over $11000.00 what is the car worth in relation...a couple of million.!
> 
> I wish & pigs fly eh! Any way, things have sure changed and certainly
> not for the better. Point.... would really appreciate some input if
> possible, including  where a good place to advertise it would be. Again
> excuse me if I am in the wrong forum. If so, please advise whom I could
> direct this message to. Thanks.
> Kindest Regards
> Michael R. Melenchuk
> Ph.{604} 530-7309     E-mail....miglenda@bc.sympatico.ca   [ P.S.] Can
> e-mail photos
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:21:30 -0500
From: Jim Olson <jolson@edzone.net>
Subject: Re: Front Clip (was RE: Parts Question)

Coming from a body shop/ salvage background when I was growing up,
around here the term "front clip" means you unbolt the sheetmetal from
the cowl and take the whole front section off in one piece. Whether or
not the bumper is included is usually up to the people making the deal. 

Jim...

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:18:29 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: SSII's

- -----Original Message-----
Padavano.Joe@orbital.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 9:30 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: SSII's

Ok Joe, answer/description accepted. Now, was there ever an SS-I wheel? And
what of the SS wheels with Chrome trim ring, what's their origin?

- -----Regards,

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Couse Customs
Rt-1, Box-615
Purling, N.Y.
   12470

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:20:18 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts Question/front clip?

In a message dated 11/17/98 7:24:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, KarlAune@aol.com
writes:

<< Even Karl is not certain what is meant by front clip. >>
  
      When I say front clip, I mean everything besides drive train that is
forward of the firewall...fenders, hood, radiator, core support, header panel,
grille, and bumper. Thats the way the yards here sell them, and that is what
constitutes a complete front clip to them.  
                                                                              
Dorian

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:32:34 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: RE: SSII's

Ok Joe, answer/description accepted. Now, was there ever an SS-I wheel? And
what of the SS wheels with Chrome trim ring, what's their origin?

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
____________

SSIs were made from 1966 to 1971 (72?) and are basically Magnum 500s (as
used on various Chevies, Fords, and Chryslers).  These come in several
flavors.  The original SSIs (66-70?) were 14 x 6, all chrome (with black
painted insets between the "spokes"), and _do not_ clear disc brakes.  In
1970 or 71 there were 14 x 7 versions of the SSI which were painted silver
and used trim rings.  These _do_ clear discs.  I believe there were also
all chrome versions of these wheels, but unfortunately I'm not sure of
their exact useage.

Not sure what you mean by "the SS wheels with Chrome trim ring".  Are you
refering to the 71 SSIs, or something else?

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:39:55 -0500
From: "Mark Cornea (R)" <mcornea@ford.com>
Subject: Dick Miller 2nd. annual

Received the following message from Dick Miller Racing today, advising
that he has secured a block of 45 rooms for the weekend of his 99' race.
Would highly recommend to any that would like to attend that you make
your reservation now before there all gone.

	Amerihost motel Fri/Sat rooms
	351 Milan Ave. (SR 250)
	Norwalk OH 44857

	August 14th &15th (Sat/Sun)

	(419) 663-3501

	$100.00 + tax

	Must reference "DMRT" to get block rate before August 1st.  Any
questions call Julie at  Dick Miller Racing (901) 794-2834.  Several of
us are already booked there and as in years past we will be caravaning
down on Saturday as a group. Let's give Dick a good showing again in '99
and demonstrate our support for his event as a club, whether it be show
or go... make plans to attend now.

         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
               Mark Cornea (Dr. Decal)  OCA# 4903
                             1970 W30 (red)

                     <mailto:drdecal@wwnet.net>
                     <mailto:mcornea@ford.com>

                    Visit http://www.drdecal.com
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:58:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Frank Iezzi <fiezzi@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
Subject: Need Q-jet help & parts

Hello Olds List.

A few questions as I try in vain to get the Oldes ready for winter here in
Ohio.  

First, I need some parts for my 69 Cutlass, door panel clips
(metal), orig horns, rear package shelf (black)...
how about a wiring diagram or info on the orig wiring for the AM and/or
AM-FM radio (I believe I have one of each). Car was purchased in 1981
without factory radio...

Also need a Q-jet for a '66 442 4-speed??  Anyone??  or the part number and
a reputable place which rebuilds Q-jets (I heard about the Carb Shop in
CA, anyone confirm or not...  and an address please.

Lastly, I've lost the keys to my 66 Toro, refresh my memory, is the door
and ignition key the same?  Which one is easier to remove and take to a
locksmith?  BTW, the car is unlocked (but garaged).

As always, any and all help appreciated.
I read a few digest each week to keep my Olds juices flowing so to speak,
but I mostly lurk.  Thanks to all who have replied off-line on previous
questions.  It is very much appreciated.

I had e-mailed Mr Chermack, is he still selling parts in Virginia Beach?
My e-mail was never answered, but didn't bounce that I know.

Everyone have a great week!

Merry Oldsmobiling
Frank Iezzi
Columbus OH
66 442
66 Toro
69 Cutlass 'S'
86 442
and a few others

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:19:00 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: SSII's

OK, since nobody else mentioned it I will.  The Texas 442
site has picture of most of these wheels at
http://www.flash.net/~texas442/wheels.html  The SS-I, SS-II
and SS-III are all there for comparison.

" CC-IROC-SS" wrote:
> 
<snip>
> Ok Joe, answer/description accepted. Now, was there ever an SS-I wheel? And
> what of the SS wheels with Chrome trim ring, what's their origin?
<snip>

- -- 

Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:18:14 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: SSII's

Thanks Joe. You cleared it up as well as identifying the different styles
better than I've heard/read. The trim ring question I believe you answered
with:

<Snip>
>In 1970 or 71 there were 14 x 7 versions of the SSI which were painted
silver and used trim rings.  These _do_ clear discs.

<GJC>
I do believe these are what I was referencing to earlier.

- -----Regards,

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Couse Customs
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Purling, N.Y.
   12470

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:47:25 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: SSII's

On Tuesday, November 17, 1998 3:19 PM, Cliff Simpson 
[SMTP:csimpson@ucalgary.ca] wrote:
>
> OK, since nobody else mentioned it I will.  The Texas 442
> site has picture of most of these wheels at
> http://www.flash.net/~texas442/wheels.html  The SS-I, SS-II
> and SS-III are all there for comparison.

Alright...just to be an @ss here...  :)

What did the '69 H/O use then?  Were they 15" versions of the SSII?  Or were 
they SSIIIs?

Thanks.  :)

Jason K. Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-mail: jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:03:16 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: RE: SSII's

What did the '69 H/O use then?  Were they 15" versions of the SSII?  Or
were
they SSIIIs?
__________

They had argent centers, so technically they were SSIIs (well, that plus
the fact that the designation "SSIII" hadn't been invented in 1969).  Many
dealers and owners painted the centers Firefrost Gold (or a facsimile
thereof), which IMHO looks better on the H/O, but all came from the factory
in argent.  Obviously, these are the only factory-built bolt-in center SS
wheels with a chrome rim; and of course all are 15 x 7.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:05:01 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Slacker...

Alright...just to be an @ss here...  :)

Jason K. Adcock
__________

Geeze, Jason, don't you, like, have to attend class or something?  ;-)

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:23:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Yasczak <VJTD@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Suspension

I have decided to rebuild the front end of my 1987 Cutlass Salon as well as put
KYB Shocks and possibly Eibach springs all around.  I will be using the PST
Super Polygraphite rebuild kit.  My question is were are Eibach springs sold? 
I have checked their web site and only have their number.  Also is it correct
that the Regal or Monte Carlo springs are the correct ones to order?  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.  
			
			Robb Yasczak	vjtd@grove.iup.edu
			
			1969 Cutlass S Conv.
			1969 442
			1976 442
			1987 Cutass Salon
			1998 Intrigue GLS

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:54:47 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: SSII's again

In a message dated 98-11-17 09:14:14 EST, you write:

<< Are they bolt-on centers or not?  All SSIIs (and some SSIIIs) were bolt-on.
 All snap-in center wheels are SSIIIs.  In addition, all 14x6 bolt-on center
 wheels are SSIIs (made in 68-69 only).
 >>
                 I have some 14x8 rims with bolt on centers. They look like
SSII. Can anyone tell me what they were off of? I can check the rim maybe of a
code or something?.......THANKS.........Scott

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:59:06 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: Suspension

Behalf Of Robert Yasczak

My question is were are Eibach springs sold?
I have checked their web site and only have their number.  Also is it
correct
that the Regal or Monte Carlo springs are the correct ones to order?

<GJC>

I have purchased Eibach springs
PN# 3803.140 PK
from a company on Long Island NY, called AUTOTREND. Bought mail order from
them for $319.34. Don't remember physical address. I believe they were
stated to be El Cam*no version. I believe I originally called Eibach and
they directed me to AUTOTREND for the single purchase. Eibach dosn't sell
public direct. Eibach will be the official CC-IROC-SS spring supplier.

- -----Regards,

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Couse Customs
Rt-1, Box-615
Purling, N.Y.
   12470

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:21:26 -0500
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: 75 350 mods

 Hi list:

Since it has become too cold here to be driving my 75 Delta 88
convertible. I have put her to bed for the winter. I would like to take
advantage of this forced downtime to perform a few maintenance
operations and a few performance modifications.

 The maintenance will consist of a freshly rebuilt Q-Jet,and a new
Holley Dominator intake(thanks KS), a new timing chain and gears, and
new springs and shocks.(the old girl is looking a little saggy in the
rear)
I was thinking that as long as I am diving in this far, why not look for
new heads also. I would like to boost the compression on this engine.
 So I am asking if anyone would have a pair of #3 or #4 heads I could
purchase.
 I was also wondering if #10 heads from a 260 would bolt up to my
engine. And if so would anyone have a pair of these heads available for
purchase? (btw i have a 350 w/#8 heads)
 I am always open to suggestions from this marvelous group of Olds
enthusiasts.
 Thanks for your time and Merry Oldsmobileing,

 Mark Hahn
 75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
 Cincinnati, Ohio

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:46:03 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?

Ha! Just reminded me of the time when I looked at a for sale by owner 80
something Cutlass a while back.

Him: "Yep, V-8 and I just tuned it up myself. It's a 270 or something
like that." Me: "How come there's only six wires on the distributor cap
and six spark plugs?"

- -- 
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Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:57:36 -0200
From: BRIAN SHANKLE <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: Cutlass Options/Nice rockit!

Very Nice Rockit pictures!  I like the console that retains the column
shift.  I have often thought of taking the passenger side of my split
bench seat out and replacing it with the console and another driver's
seat for the passenger side (I have the Brougham seats with the extra
padding-never seen them as buckets but would be cool) and retaining the
column shift, maybe plugging the shifter hole with an equalizer or some
other equally impressive piece of stereo equipment.  Any thougths on
this?
Brian
86 Cutlass Supreme Brougham

Oldsmagnet wrote:
> 
> > I would like to know what sort of rare, or at least not so common,
> > options were availible on the '86 Cutlass Supreme Brougham.
> 
> Well, one of the less common options that comes to mind is the fender mounted
> indicator lamps (of which I've seen ~two~ ever.)  Yes, the rear interior 
lights
> are fairly common, at least on T-top cars.  Not sure if they ever went in
> solid-roofed cars, though.  If you're looking for total option bonanza, check
> out my Rockit on my web page (below)  I've got just about everything in it...
> Most were ~not~ offerred as factory options, though...  Ya might post the
> question to the G-body Olds list, too, if you're on it.  (Or if not, I can 
for
> you, or you can join, or whatever....  :)
> 
> I've got a picture ~somewhere~ of the indicator lights, if you want, I can 
dig
> it up, scan it, and post to a web page...
> --
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:50:17 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?

maybe remember the chevy was a 267, the olds a 260, the buick  well they
didnt play this game, uh caddy ? oh well who cares uh dont know, Joe?
- -----Original Message-----
From: MNManiac@aol.com <MNManiac@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: '80 Cutlass w/ a 268 engine?


>In a message dated 11/16/98 5:01:42 PM Central Standard Time,
kerryk@CWIX.com
>writes:
>
><< the 268 engine was a pontiac product they traded for the 260 olds engine
> more strange but true tales...KK >>
>
>Wasn't that a 265? I remember in the early 80s, every GM division had it's
own
>"mini-8."  Olds 260, Chevy 267, Pontiac 265.  Buick, of course, was the
>division that made the 231 V-6 and was pushing it hard...so they didn't
have a
>"mini-8."
>
>-Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:38:25 -0500
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: SSII's

wow, look what I started with just one dumb question...

Mine are bolt on centers...as for my friends, some are Olds cognizant,
some are not even time/location cognizant.....My wife does know the
difference between SSII's and SSIII's though.  Now all I need to do is
teach her the difference between rare and well-done.....

Art
67 Cutlass

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:42:32 -0500
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: Parts Question/front clip?

was just at my mechanic's this morning...speaking of front clips...he
put an entire 65 Delta 88 front clip on to a 66...was almost exactly the
same, except for the front bumper being a little different...

Art
67 Cutlass

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:46:03 -0500
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: killer 442

he has a garage..and he has maybe 10 cars for sale....not a real big
operation

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:09:45 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: Craftsman tools (was: replacing brake hose)

yeah joe that is handy as the dickens on sunday afternoon but I have
duplicates of everything from just about every supplier mac, snap-on, matco,
wright, s&k
proto, craftsman, cornwell (now defunct), master mechanic, and even thorsen
all are guaranteed for life
some are very expensive but still the amount of skin and damaged parts saved
have been worth it and given the funds I would replace them all with the
equivalent snap-on products  now   before you all send me hate mail I will
say it again the snap on has never ruined a bolt a fitting a nut or a part
the others have let me down on numerous occasions as well as the odd broken
tool I also have never broken a snap-on tool
and have used and abused them as well as the others
I dont own stock in the company but with the amount of tools I have bought I
could have purchased a good chunk...........KK
also I realize not everyone can afford snap-on and that craftsman are very
good tools for the money I wouldnt use their ratchets or snap-on for that
matter the handels dont fit my hands (too small) need fat ones like S&K for
that just an opinion the aviation industry uses snap on almost exclusively
for a reason...KK
69-442
69-W-31(rip)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:18:29 -0800
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: Parts Question/front clip?

I've often wondered whether this was possible. Well whaddya know.

Isn't it great that in those days GM considered tweaking the taillights and
bumpers a redesign? 

This is great news for us rebuilders/restorers because it dramatically
increases the range of donor cars from which we can pick the very best bits
to make our cars even better.

For example, my 66 Starfire has an HEI and internally regulated alternator.
Along with a monster Caddy vacuum reservoir to drive the vacuum door locks
and trunk release.

Much is possible swapping among Olds years or among GM makes if you have
some idea of what will fit....

Cool, no?
cf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Hoffman [mailto:oldsctls67@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 2:43 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Parts Question/front clip?
> 
> 
> was just at my mechanic's this morning...speaking of front clips...he
> put an entire 65 Delta 88 front clip on to a 66...was almost 
> exactly the
> same, except for the front bumper being a little different...
> 
> Art
> 67 Cutlass
> 

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:27:46 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Craftsman tools

> that just an opinion the aviation industry uses snap on almost exclusively
> for a reason

Isn't that what rockets have to do with?  Aviation?  They sure know how
to fly!!!

Snap-on is probably one of the best quality tools, but if you're just a
weekend wrencher, then Craftsman certainly fits the bill.  I've had
both, and I can tell you that I HAVE rounded off bolts with snap-ons,
but not nearly as often as with Craftsman.  If I were to make my living
using tools, then snap-on would be the hand tool of choice.  Ok, I've
said my piece.  Let's move on to something more useful now.
Opinions.
Mike Rothe

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:26:24 -0500
From: Rebel1 <rebel1@raex.com>
Subject: Re: 75 350 mods

Mark,
    Physically the 260 #10 heads will bolt on to your 350 in place of the #8
heads, but....  you probably don't want to do that.  The #10 heads have half
size runners - the port is square instead of rectangular - which I beleive
was done to help the 260 make some torque.  The valves are also smaller on
the #10 heads - don't remeber how much smaller though...  IMHO, I think you
will be disappointed with the results.
Todd Daenzer
'69 rag top - 310hp tied to a 'glide :-(
'75 Supreme - project car....
'82 Supreme - SB, 700R4, 3.73's - Grin!
'86 Supreme - V-8 - daily driver...


Mark Hahn wrote:

>  Hi list:
>
> Since it has become too cold here to be driving my 75 Delta 88
> convertible. I have put her to bed for the winter. I would like to take
> advantage of this forced downtime to perform a few maintenance
> operations and a few performance modifications.
>
>  The maintenance will consist of a freshly rebuilt Q-Jet,and a new
> Holley Dominator intake(thanks KS), a new timing chain and gears, and
> new springs and shocks.(the old girl is looking a little saggy in the
> rear)
> I was thinking that as long as I am diving in this far, why not look for
> new heads also. I would like to boost the compression on this engine.
>  So I am asking if anyone would have a pair of #3 or #4 heads I could
> purchase.
>  I was also wondering if #10 heads from a 260 would bolt up to my
> engine. And if so would anyone have a pair of these heads available for
> purchase? (btw i have a 350 w/#8 heads)
>  I am always open to suggestions from this marvelous group of Olds
> enthusiasts.
>  Thanks for your time and Merry Oldsmobileing,
>
>  Mark Hahn
>  75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
>  Cincinnati, Ohio

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:24:15 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: only scumbags STEAL Olds parts

on the same note someone recently relieved me of my outside rearview mirror
on the 69 442 came out of work and it was gone......KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: S-MAN <super442@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 9:56 PM
Subject: only scumbags STEAL Olds parts


>
>
>
>
>
>Hi everyone,
>          I have a friend that has a 76 Delta 98 , today some scum bag
>decided they needed the left hand chrome tail light bezel more than he
>did. This was very upsetting, so if anyone else has one....and
>possibly a tail light for same, please contact me direct at :
>super442@yahoo.com
>
>       TIA, John
>
>==
>John McJunkin ( The Sman ) mailto:super442@yahoo.com
>  ICQ # 16956740      Lithia Springs, Ga.
>TOPLESS--1985 Cutlass--frog442's 84---my 69 442
>1982 Cutlass Cruiser Wagon(g-body)--soon to be V-8 !
>http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/
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>-http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/Burnouts
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:34:47 -0500
From: Arthur Hoffman <oldsctls67@home.com>
Subject: Re: Parts Question/front clip?

Purists frown on that sort of stuff...but what the hell!  I do what I
want to my car to make it as kewl as possible.  There are certain lines
I won't cross..such as aluminum intake manifolds and racing cams...but a
442 hood is gonna look pretty kewl on my regular old Cutlass...

Art

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:05:29 -0500
From: "rkn" <rkn@ezaccess.net>
Subject: Re: Part Needed - Intake

Laura,
	I have an intake off of a 71 455. The ID# is 410448. There is also a 
D2 B
under the ID#.
If this would be of any help to you let me know. 
					R. Kevin Noon
					66 Dynamic 88 Convertible
					85 Delta 88 Royale Brougham
					rkn@ezaccess.net

- ----------
> From: Shadow Fox <ladykitsu@hotmail.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Part Needed - Intake
> Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 8:15 PM
> 
> Greetings everyone - 
>    I just figured I would go through quickly and ask around here (even 
> though I have it listed on 442.com).  I need to purchase an intake 
> manifold for a 455...The kicker is that it has to be from one *earlier* 
> than the one that is currently on there which I looked up on the FAQ as 
> being made between 70 & 72 (ID #404521)...The problem is that Once upon 
> a time, when the mechanic screwed up my early model 455 block, they 
> replaced it with the later model 455.  Normally no biggie...Well not 
> until my Carb died.  I scraped up the money to get it fixed but found 
> out that since it is an early Qjet there isn't any real way to get the 
> choke hooked up and working properly.  I had the option of rigging the 
> choke which solution would have me cut through my air cleaner, purchase 
> a new carb (that will fit the intake), or purchase a new intake to match 
> the carb...Since the carb was just rebuilt and I really don't want 
> something rigged (not to mention a whole in the cleaner)...That leaves 
> me with one option....
> 
> Can anyone help????
> 
> Thanks
> Laura
> 
> ______________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:16:56 -0500
From: "rkn" <rkn@ezaccess.net>
Subject: Re: 455 Lower Radiator hose

Jim,
	I don't know about the top plate question, but I ran into a similar
problem replacing a water pump on a 70 Cutlass 350. There were three
different water pumps for the car. First difference was in the pilot for
the fan, which I didn't discover until I was re-installing the fan. So I
took it off and went back to the parts store. The next water pump fit the
fan just fine, but as I was attempting to put the lower radiator hose back
on...guess what. It was too sloppy. So I took that pump off and went back
to the store. This time we got it right. But I had a backache for three
days.
	The moral of this little story is that if there are so many different
water pumps for one motor, there has to be different hoses also. This may
be your problem too.
					R. Kevin Noon
					66 Dynamic 88 Convertible
					85 Delta 88 Royale Brougham

- ----------
> From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: 455 Lower Radiator hose
> Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 8:02 PM
> 
> 
> > From: DROLDS350@aol.com
> > 
> > 	I was putting the lower radiator hose on my Rallye and the hose 
seemed
> > awfully loose. Aren't the radiator hoses supposed to fit snugly? This
> hose is
> > supposed to be the correct one for a 455, which is what I have. Any
> comments?
> > 	Also, does anyone know if there is a difference in top plates for 
the
> > radiator between a 455 or a 350? I have a 4 core radiator.
> > Thanks,
> > Jim McKeague
> > http://members.aol.com/DROLDS350/W45.html
> > 70 Rallye 350
> > 70 Cutlass W-31
> 

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:26:08 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Cutlass Options/Nice rockit!

Brian,
I've thought of the same thing, but the offset head-restraint poses a
cu$tomizing problem.
Must agree about the niceness of the brougham seats.  I loved my Brougham;
it too was an 86.

I've also considered cutting the 20% of the 60% seat and having two 40%'s,
but that too would require  a lot of stitch work...

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA
costanzo@netcarrier.com


- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of BRIAN SHANKLE
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 1:58 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Cutlass Options/Nice rockit!



I have often thought of taking the passenger side of my split
bench seat out and replacing it with the console and another driver's
seat for the passenger side

Brian
86 Cutlass Supreme Brougham

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:50:39 -0500
From: "Mark Thurman" <Thurman@kvnet.org>
Subject: re: Rallye 350 stripes/location dimensions

<snip> >if the assembly manual gives pertinent dimensions of the stripe
location. If it isn't in there, is there anything available??>


Mark,
my cutlass assembly manual shows the stripe locations on pages 398 & 399
(original dwg: part # 404411 pg104 &106) these are in the back of my book
(total # of pages = 405, right before the pace car striping info).  Mine
aren't good enough quality to scan or they'd be on their way....sorry.

mt

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:59:05 -0500
From: "person" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Parts interchange

I now have access to parts interchange info all makes and models 65-79.
E-Mail me privately VBDeveloper@worldnet.att.net



                                       =
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                                                =
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'69 Olds Ninety-Eight Topless Bubba=========
====666=================999============
        666                                  999

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:23:59 -0800
From: Tom Lentz <tlentz@ior.com>
Subject: 455 in a truck

I've got (actually, the SO drives it) a '78 Chevy truck with an Olds
350.  There's *plenty* of room to fit a 455 under there should I so
desire, it would easily bolt in.  The 350 is getting pretty tired, and
I'm contemplating it...  On the other hand, that 350 has pulled plenty
of stumps and truck/trailer loads of heavy stuff without breaking a
sweat.  It's amazing how that 5300lb truck can get up and go when you
stomp on it from 50mph or so.  I imagine it probably has pretty low
(numerically) gears for the low-revving diesel.

Anyhow, it's a '78 diesel truck that's been converted.  The diesel was
an Olds block, so the swap is pretty simple.  They come with TH400
trannies with a BOP pattern already because a diesel engine doesn't make
vacuum to run the vacuum modulator on a TH350.

There's some wiring to figure out converting from the diesel, and you'll
need a carb and distributor too (duh).  On the plus side, they have the
hydroboost braking system so you could run as rowdy of a cam as you want
and not loose the power brakes, and the (big!) radiator has a built-in
oil cooler!

Tom Lentz
tlentz@ior.com

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:30:34 -0500
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Craftsman tools (was: replacing brake hose)

Like you, I think I have every brand of tool ever made, from Snap-On to
Taiwan industries. There's no wrench better than a snap-on wrench. There's
no wrench more EXPENSIVE than a Snap-On wrench. I settle for Matco (still
expensive), Mac (same thing), and Craftsman. At least with Craftsman, I
don't have to chase down a truck or wait a few days to get my broken tools
replaced. I HAVE broken MANY MANY MANY Snap-On tool, though not nearly as
easily as some other brands. Interestingly enough, the Snap-On dealer
scrutinizes my broken tools and sometimes gives me trouble on the
replacement: "You were using it as a pry bar weren't you?"  "No but I did
bludgeon and stab a snide, smart-aleck tool dealer with it." That works.
I feel like with the price of professional quality tools, you should be able
to beat them with a 10 lb. sledge hammer if you want to (and still get them
warranteed). Sears NEVER EVER questions how I broke it. They through it in a
box and give me a new one. My .02 from someone who has made my living with
my tools.
- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Comid <Comid>
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Craftsman tools (was: replacing brake hose)


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>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:09:45 -0600
>From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
>Subject: Re: Craftsman tools (was: replacing brake hose)
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
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>yeah joe that is handy as the dickens on sunday afternoon but I have
>duplicates of everything from just about every supplier mac, snap-on,
matco,
>wright, s&k
>proto, craftsman, cornwell (now defunct), master mechanic, and even thorsen
>all are guaranteed for life
>some are very expensive but still the amount of skin and damaged parts
saved
>have been worth it and given the funds I would replace them all with the
>equivalent snap-on products  now   before you all send me hate mail I will
>say it again the snap on has never ruined a bolt a fitting a nut or a part
>the others have let me down on numerous occasions as well as the odd broken
>tool I also have never broken a snap-on tool
>and have used and abused them as well as the others
>I dont own stock in the company but with the amount of tools I have bought
I
>could have purchased a good chunk...........KK
>also I realize not everyone can afford snap-on and that craftsman are very
>good tools for the money I wouldnt use their ratchets or snap-on for that
>matter the handels dont fit my hands (too small) need fat ones like S&K for
>that just an opinion the aviation industry uses snap on almost exclusively
>for a reason...KK
>69-442
>69-W-31(rip)
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:31:06 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: SB/BB Head ID

     Just got off the phone with the machine shop..my heads are pretty
rough..lots to fix them up..has a pair on the shelf.. SAYS they are '71 455,
but I don't know..the numbers he gave me (said he couldn't read them all
easily) were=   6    409 100     
        09100G    I looked in the FAQ, and a number (the 6) denotes SB,
correct?? However, the other numbers are not listed in the FAQ. If he gave me
the correct numbers, what would these heads be expected to do on my .60 over
403? I still want the daily driver, as long as it isn't over 9.0 to 1 CR I
don't care. Any help from any of you Olds Geniuses would be appreciated!
Dorian

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