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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, December 5 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1643



Re: Two Lane Blacktop
Re: Olds quotes/crashes (non- olds)
Value of '85 Olds
Re: Olds in NASCAR
Re: Value of '85 Olds
Re: Value of '85 Olds
Master cylinder swap  '66 F-85
Re: Better Horns?
Re: Small Block update?
85 Olds FS
Re: Olds 350 and High RPM's
Re: how do you get stickers off?
69 Hurst Olds Carbs.
Re: Value of '85 Olds
Re: OLDS 455 ROCKET STICKER
Re: Value of '85 Olds
Re: how do you get adhesive off vinyl top?
Re: Value of '85 Olds
Re: Two Lane Blacktop
Re: olds350 vs the 350 rocket
Brackets
fwd. 442 for sale
Re: RYAN! : Holley Manifolds For Sale
Re: insurance woes
Bumper Reconditioning
Chicago Music Video (Was Re: Olds quotes.........)
Re: Brackets
Re: Bumper Reconditioning
Re: Bumper Reconditioning
Re: Two Lane Blacktop
Re: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.
RE: Master cylinder swap  '66 F-85
Re: Two Lane Blacktop
RE: Bumper Reconditioning
RE: how do you get stickers off?
RE: Value of '85 Olds
RE: Olds in NASCAR
Re: sat party
Re: Olds quotes parts answered
Re: Lightning Rod Shifter
Re: Olds in NASCAR
Re: how do you get stickers off?
Re: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.
Re: how do you get adhesive off vinyl top?
Re: Poor idle/ Manifold deposit buildup
Re: Two Lane Blacktop
Re: Value of '85 Olds
Re: HOT ROD MOVIE
I'm finally back on the list
RE: I'm finally back on the list
Rear End Transfer
Re: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.
Re: Bumper Reconditioning
Re: Bumper Reconditioning
Re: Two Lane Blacktop
Re: Bumper Reconditioning
Re: Bumper Reconditioning

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:49:17 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Two Lane Blacktop

             If you have the  " Speedvision " channel, they have that on there
a few times a year durnig thier late night " Lost Driven-in " sat. night
movie. I have a copy of it, i'll see if i can get a hold of another VCR to
tape it, and if i can, i'll even remove the commercial. I'll add the
commercial at the end....just promise to watch them...(yeah right).......SCOTT

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:01:38 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds quotes/crashes (non- olds)

In a message dated 98-12-04 15:52:19 EST, you write:

<< I have often wondered what percentage of economy cars are really
 crap vs. what percentage were _good_ cars that were simply destined
 to be owned by people who could barely afford the _car_, let alone
 what you or I would regard as routine maintenance.  >>
           5 years ago,    I got an 82 Areis k-car for free becuase the owner
didn't want to spend the money for the carb. work it needed. So he just gave
me the car. It was a grey door.    .( must have been like an SS option, only
see 4 doors and wagons around here.) It was loaded with Chyrsler finest
options. Each front seat occupant had their very own lever to get fresh air if
they were hot. It was equipped with a rock'n 1 center mounted speaker mated to
an AM only push button radio. The best other option that this car had was the
rear defroster. When the car had a " time-out", (like on the side of the
freeway) it kept my hands warm in the winter was i pushed the car onto the
burm................    This car was decent and served it purpose to get me
around. I am glad that now i am wiser and have a bit more money to spent on
buying cars................SCOTT

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:10:27 EST
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Value of '85 Olds

Saw a rather clean 85 Olds 4 dr. today. It didn't have an ** badge on it, but
I think that's what it is. Top of the line interior, lomething like LS, and it
said some comforting words on the side...custom Brougham or some such.

Anyway, 127K miles on the 307, everything works except the cruise control. He
says it burns a bit of oil between changes, but none shows. Drives out fine,
no looseness and good brakes (1 yr. since replacement) Tires are good.

Interior is in very good condition...plush cushions in grey cloth. Has had a
paint job...charcoal grey...over two years ago. The paint looks good from 20
ft :-) but isn't really fine job. Car just looks nice. I had an 82 Buick much
like it, even the same color, and that was a good car.

Asking price is $1200 and he seems pretty solid on that. What are they worth
where you are?

Cheers/Don Carron
Rockford TN

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 14:39:25 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Olds in NASCAR

I may be incorrect but I heard they left Nascar to head to Drag Racing.

>Out of curiousity, who can give me info about Olds in NASCAR?  Like 
when did
>they leave, why?  Who drove, was the cars always Cutlasses. etc. etc.
>Thanks masterminds!
>
>Ray Costanzo
>87 409 Cutlass
>Bucks County, PA
>costanzo@netcarrier.com
>
>


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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:50:38 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Value of '85 Olds

If the car in question is a Delta 88 LS (identified by the Royale Brougham
script on the front fender, solid red tail lights, '80-'84 98 back up lamps,
and seats out of an '82-'84 98 Regency Brougham)  his asking price is not
too far off.  Expect to have to put a timing chain in it if it hasn't been
done.  I would also inquire as to whether the TH 200 4R trans has been
rebuilt.
Regards,
Fred
- -----Original Message-----
From: SpeedCom@aol.com <SpeedCom@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 5:15 PM
Subject: Value of '85 Olds


>Saw a rather clean 85 Olds 4 dr. today. It didn't have an ** badge on it,
but
>I think that's what it is. Top of the line interior, lomething like LS, and
it
>said some comforting words on the side...custom Brougham or some such.
>
>Anyway, 127K miles on the 307, everything works except the cruise control.
He
>says it burns a bit of oil between changes, but none shows. Drives out
fine,
>no looseness and good brakes (1 yr. since replacement) Tires are good.
>
>Interior is in very good condition...plush cushions in grey cloth. Has had
a
>paint job...charcoal grey...over two years ago. The paint looks good from
20
>ft :-) but isn't really fine job. Car just looks nice. I had an 82 Buick
much
>like it, even the same color, and that was a good car.
>
>Asking price is $1200 and he seems pretty solid on that. What are they
worth
>where you are?
>
>Cheers/Don Carron
>Rockford TN
>

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 18:04:57 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Value of '85 Olds

> Asking price is $1200 and he seems pretty solid on that. 

Sounds like a decent car for the price.  If he's pretty solid on the
price, then don't expect much room for bargaining.  However, it's still
a good price.  The cruise control could be as simple as a vacuum line,
loose wire connections at the servo, a brake release switch, or most of
the time it is the turn signal stalk switch itself.  A slight pain to
replace, but it isn't horribly bad.

Either way, it's still a FAIRLY inexpensive fix, depending on what's
wrong, but switches normally run around 60 bucks or so, and you can find
a nearly identical replacement at NAPA, or of course, the GM dealer. 
The GM dealer no longer has it available in chrome, which is what yours
came with, however.  The brake release switch, (usually not the cause)
runs around 25-35 bucks at the GM dealership.

Vacuum hose reconnection is normally free, unless you have to buy a new
piece of hose, which runs about 30 cents/foot or so.

Of course, the servo unit under the hood COULD be bad, but again, not
usually the cause.  Replacements for these could cost you though.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:00:55 EST
From: Ryt2Butch@aol.com
Subject: Master cylinder swap  '66 F-85

Greetings Fellow Oldsmobilians,

I have a '66 F-85 with a bad master cylinder, single well.  I'd like to
replace it with a dual reservoir one and the requisite proportioning valve.
Anyone ever do this?  Got any tips?

Thanks.

Butch D'Ambrosio


'66 F-85
'67 Cutlass (RIP)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:05:32 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Better Horns?

K, 
Cuervo Centennial 1800, heck with the horns, get out the limes & salt!
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Better Horns?
> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 11:42 AM
 
> Got tired of Tequila?
> 
> Even Cuervo Especial??
> 
> Or disappointed with the horns??
> 
> K

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 15:05:43 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Small Block update?

What type of intake is that? It costs more than I paid for a performer 
rpm.

>3. Cost of the Holley 4175 carb is $339, the manifold is $240+/- Total
>about $580. Headers about $150, catalytic converter and new tail pipe 
at
>the local muffler shop about $200.  Total about $930.  And the job can
>be done in maybe a day, probably less, by myself. 


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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 18:11:22 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: 85 Olds FS

Speaking of 85 Oldses, I saw an 85 Delta 88 TWO door today on the way
home from work on a lot (has that TORO look).  Could not see what option
level, as far as LS or Brougham or ??.  It was only a drive-by look, but
I looked.  Again, not enough time to stop, but what I saw was a really
nice car from the road.  White with medium blue top and interior. 
Looked to have wheel covers, but the car looked very straight, and of
course, no rust was seen.  Looked to have, but can't verify yet,
original paint.  With all the retirees down here, I wouldn't be
surprised if it was owned by an elderly owner.  Have no idea on the
price, but if anyone is interested, I can definitely make it a point to
find out.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:14:24 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Olds 350 and High RPM's

Ed, 
Mine always seized, then took out the block, cam, pan, and most of the time
the headers. Oh, forgot, the piston, not having anything to hold on to,
would enlarge the combustion chamber from 168 cc's, to about a liter, give
or take 500 cc.
Lou 
lbiggs@intertek.net


- ----------
> From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Olds 350 and High RPM's
> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 11:45 AM
> 
> Mike B wrote:
> >
> >To determine what your redline should be you have to build two identical
> >motors.  Then you use a complex formula but it goes something like this.
> >Install the first motor and rev it as high as possible.  If a rod goes
> >through
> >the fender redline should be about 750 rpm below that rpm.  
> 
> 
> --------------
> 
> Oh come on now. We all know the rod will go through the bottom of the oil
> pan before it would the fender.
> 
> Ed
> The Omega man
> 
> 2 74 Omegas WITH redlines.

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:08:43 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: how do you get stickers off?

easy use a cotton ball or two and zippo lighter fluid it is essentially
naptha it will disolve most adhesives use it liberally but wash it off with
soap and water when your done...KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: how do you get stickers off?


>They make this stuff called Goo-Gone. I don't know who makes it but it
>works like a charm. Comes in a little 3 or 4 oz bottle. It's yellow in
>color. Try Wal-Mart or K-mart or one of the marts. Pretty cheap too. Takes
>sticky crap off anything.
>
>Ed
>The Omega man
>2-74's
>
>
>
>
>At 09:41 AM 12/4/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>>Hi Listers,
>>
>>Sounds like a stupid question: How do you get stickers off the chrome
>>bumpers? I have two real hard ones. The surface is really firm and the
>>glue just like concrete. They must be 20 years old. I Tried Acetone. I am
>>sure heat will work but doesn't that put a blueish stain on the chrome?
>>Any suggestions welcome!
>>
>>Another question regarding bumpers: Working on the rear end I found a
>>rust hole in the right lower end of the rear bumper... is there any way
>>to fix this or to let it be fixed??? (Don't tell me to put a STICKER on
>>it... )
>>
>>Thanks, Regards,
>>George
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>'68 Cuttlass S Conv.
>>http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
>>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 18:26:57 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.

Question for the gang here....

Someone from the list asked me about a carb for a 69 H/O.  Since I feel
pretty qualified to answer just about ANY 69 H/O construction question,
this did seem like an easy answer. These carbs were listed as Rochester
QJ's, number 7029251.  

HOWEVER, he said that some other H/O kinda guy said that all the cars
built in April and May had only the 29251 number, without the "70" in
front.  Puzzling.  I personally have never heard of this one.  The cars
were built from the last week of March (03D) to the last week of May
(05E).  So that would mean that 99% of all the 69 H/O's would have this
29251 number if this were true.  Mine was built the last week of March,
and when I purchased mine, it had a 7029251 number on the carb.  I
realize it could have been replaced, but all the H/O literature I can
find references the "70" type number.  Even the GM parts books. 
Hmmmm....

Here's where it gets a bit interesting.  Kurt Karch, the H/O advisor
never heard of this either, but when he checked HIS carb number, it was
29251.  Needless to say, he was surprised as well.

Ok, what's the deal?  Anyone got any skinny on this?  Joe Padavano, if
you're reading this, what's YOUR carb number?  This perplexes me, since
I've NEVER seen one.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:28:48 EST
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: Value of '85 Olds

In a message dated 12/4/98
 4:<BR53:<BR19 PM Central Standard Tim, FSNissen@worldnet.att.net writes:> If
the car in question is a Delta 88 LS (identified by the Royale Brougham
>  script on the front fender, solid red tail lights, '80-'84 98 back up
lamps,
>  and seats out of an '82-'84 98 Regency Brougham)  his asking price is not
>  too far off.  Expect to have to put a timing chain in it if it hasn't been
>  done.  I would also inquire as to whether the TH 200 4R trans has been
>  rebuilt


Fred,

You've nailed the model. Neither the engine nor the trans. has been gone into.
He did mention that acceleration was sluggish. Maybe a symptom of stretched
timing chain? Do these things break catastrophically? This car has to go 1000
miles on its "shakedown", but thereafter will lead a rather sedentary life.

Cheers/carron

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:30:27 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: OLDS 455 ROCKET STICKER

In a message dated 12/4/98 10:34:44 AM Central Standard Time, igor455@home.com
writes:

<< Does anyone know where I can get a set of Air-Cleaner lid stickers that
say:
 OLDSMOBILE ROCKET 455.  Thanks. >>



    Year One has them...less than $40, I think

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:36:39 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Value of '85 Olds

The chains tend to jump time rather than break in my experience.  Usually
there is no head damage.  On most low compression Olds V8s the valves just
miss the pistons when the chain lets go.  I have heard of some that bent
valves when the chain went, but these were ususlly high compression, had
milled heads, or tossed the chain at a relatively high rpm.
Regards,
Fred
- -----Original Message-----
From: SpeedCom@aol.com <SpeedCom@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Value of '85 Olds


>In a message dated 12/4/98
> 4:<BR53:<BR19 PM Central Standard Tim, FSNissen@worldnet.att.net writes:>
If
>the car in question is a Delta 88 LS (identified by the Royale Brougham
>>  script on the front fender, solid red tail lights, '80-'84 98 back up
>lamps,
>>  and seats out of an '82-'84 98 Regency Brougham)  his asking price is
not
>>  too far off.  Expect to have to put a timing chain in it if it hasn't
been
>>  done.  I would also inquire as to whether the TH 200 4R trans has been
>>  rebuilt
>
>
>Fred,
>
>You've nailed the model. Neither the engine nor the trans. has been gone
into.
>He did mention that acceleration was sluggish. Maybe a symptom of stretched
>timing chain? Do these things break catastrophically? This car has to go
1000
>miles on its "shakedown", but thereafter will lead a rather sedentary life.
>
>Cheers/carron
>

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:38:06 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: how do you get adhesive off vinyl top?

Gary, 
my 75 vinyl top was covered with ???, Mom used to Armorall it when it was
covered with dust, turned a whitish color, like your shower stall, could
not remove it, went to have it replaced. GOOD upholsterer told me to scrub
it with a semi soft brush and enamel reducer, worked like a champ, hit it
with a couple of coats of silicone, looks like a new top. Would think it
would cut tape adhesive, I really sauced it down, worried more about the
sh*t running down, then the top. In fact, the detail shop guy thought I had
it replaced with a new one.
Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net


- ----------
> From: <GJC> CC-IROC-SS <gjcouse@francomm.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: how do you get adhesive off vinyl top?
> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 12:56 PM
> 
> In a slant to the bumper goo, How does one remove the remaining adhesive
> from 2 months of masking tape adhered to a vinyl top. Caustic cleaners
> remove the vinyl color and provade the vinyl integrity. Potions like
Armor
> all and sun of a gun are useless to lubricate and separate the adhesive
> grip. Heat is not a useful factor as vinyl deformity may result. Any
> suggestions?
> 
> -----Regards,
> 
> Gary J. Couse
> Couse Customs
> mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com
> 
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> Personal ICQ Communication Center:
> http://wwp.mirabilis.com/5209322
> 
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> CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
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> Project Questions To:
> mailto:cc-iroc-ss@CC-IROC-SS.com
> 
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> For free Win95-98 Support, come visit <GJC> at:
> http://www.salemcounty.com/win95board/multipage1.html
> mailto:techsupport@salemcounty.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Green
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 12:15 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: how do you get stickers off?
> 
> 
> > How do you get stickers off the chrome bumpers?
> [...]
> > I am sure heat will work but doesn't that put a blueish stain
> > on the chrome?
> 
> As the others said, you can use a hair dryer to soften it up. The
> heat it generates is nowhere near what the bumper reaches when
> you're parking in the sun on a hot day.
> 
> I use a plastic spatula to push the sticker off while the heat
> is on it, then mineral spirits to dissolve whatever glue is left.
> Wax when you're done. This works great on those stupid dealer
> stickers (like, say, a Dodge dealer who insists on putting his
> Dodge sticker on the back of an Olds, so it says to the whole
> world, "I BOUGHT IT USED" :-)
> 
> -- Andy
> 
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:44:24 EST
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: Value of '85 Olds

In a message dated 12/4/98
 5:<BR38:<BR53 PM Central Standard Tim, FSNissen@Worldnet.ATT.NET writes:>  I
have heard of some that bent
>  valves when the chain went, but these were ususlly high compression, had
>  milled heads, or tossed the chain at a relatively high rpm.
>  Regards,


Like on the way to Houston :-)

Thanks for the tip, Fred.

Cheers/carron

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:41:34 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Two Lane Blacktop

In a message dated 12/4/98 2:27:02 PM Central Standard Time, Lou0118@aol.com
writes:

<< Speedvision has a good show on at 8:00 pm on Thursday - American Muscle
Car.
 
 One of the programs was about the 442.
 
 They have done the GTO, Chevelle SS, Vette, Hemi Cuda and several others.
  >>



Soo...that's why RocketTalk has been so empty lately...just a joke.

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:35:20 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: olds350 vs the 350 rocket

In a message dated 12/4/98 11:51:09 AM Central Standard Time, RICH6986@aol.com
writes:

<< I am going to put a 350 in my 82 cutlass and I got a couple of prices and
the
 difference between the 350 and the rocket was $50 and I was wondering what
the
 differences are between them.  Is the rocket better?   Any info would be
 helpfull TIA  >>


HUH?...Am I missing something? I always thought that "rocket" was just a
nickname given to any Olds motor...Kinda like "Rat" is to chevy...and
"grenade" is to ford!

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:01:05 -0500
From: "Kevin Grover" <Atvman@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Brackets

I'm looking for an alternator bracket, and a power steering pump bracket for
a 68 350.  I have a newer style GM alternator, and a Sagnaw type power
steering pump.  I don't have the original brackets, and I don't care if I
get the originals, I just need something that will work. Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:02:15 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: fwd. 442 for sale

1970 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS 4-4-2, Convertible. Engine just rebuilt. Original
interior. w-30 motor. A little body damage. Very good investment color: black
mileage: 500, $4,000.00, (281) 859-5824 tbr3604729@worldnet.att.net
Location: Houston , TX
        found this at auto trader online.com.........Sounds real
good.....SCOTT

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:06:36 EST
From: MFATZII@aol.com
Subject: Re: RYAN! : Holley Manifolds For Sale

In a message dated 12/4/98 11:47:50 AM Central Standard Time, KarlAune@aol.com
writes:

<< 
 A intake man that fits SB Olds will fit your 307.
 
 Further, aside from the 260, all BB/SB oil pans will fit, all timing chains
 will fit, and all SB cyl heads will bolt up.
 
 Just about anything that goes on the 350 wil go on your 307 (is what I
 understand).
 
 As far as buildng your 307:
 If it is a 1985 or later,  you prolly need different heads AND intake
 manifold. >>


Thanks for the info........by the by the motor is out of an 83


Ryan

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:06:29 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: insurance woes

Raht ahn bro.  Hagerty's it is.  Haverty's is OK, but only if you're looking
for a place to sit down.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew C. Green <acg_o@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: insurance woes


>> Have you tried Haverty's?  They may not hassle you.  They don't
>> bother me, so they must be easy.  Peter.
>
>I believe that should be "Hagerty's." You can find them on the
>web at http://www.hagerty.com
>
>-- Andy
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:15:59 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Bumper Reconditioning

There was a thread not too long ago about a place that would shape a bumper
and triple plate it for something like $225 plus shipping.  I think it was
Desert Dog or DVAP.  One of them.  I just got a half way decent core bumper
for Redzilla, and need to send it off to make it acceptable to her.  Who was
it that was so prominent in our discussions just two weeks ago?  Forgive the
Senior Moment.  Peter.

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:20:01 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Chicago Music Video (Was Re: Olds quotes.........)

Joe/List:

You brought back a great memory about that Chicago video for the song "Stay
The Night".  Right after that, I came into possession of a 68 Cutlass 'S'
convertible, and decided to change it to red with a black interior.  It never
happened -- the car was so trashed by the time I got it (and began REALLY
looking at it) that I decided to part out the beast and look for another one.
Someday I'll have the money, time and space to get another one and do it up
right.

Anyway, what I want to know is does anyone have a copy of this video, or know
where I can get a copy of it?  Funny, I never looked at it close enough to
tell if the car was different for the jump scene, just remember that the car
looked so cool........................

Thanks for the indulgence, and Take Care!

Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:22:24 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Brackets

>I'm looking for an alternator bracket, and a power steering pump >bracket
for a 68 350.  I have a newer style GM alternator, and a >Sagnaw type power
steering pump.  I don't have the original >brackets, and I don't care if I
get the originals, I just need something >that will work. Thanks.


I can help you out.  I have brackets off a '68 350 and '72 350. I think they
are the same but haven't checked that close. I'm dropping the 68 in my 72
Cutlass this weekend and will be removing them tomorrow.

I have an original (to the best of my knowledge, it's different than my 72
pump) '68 power steering pump if anyone needs one. I'm going to use the pump
off my '72. The pump is still on the 68 350 (89k original miles), no hoses
(guy before me cut them off). Pulley is off, but I can put one on it.

E me privately randygeisel@prodigy.net  if interested. Shipping is no
problem. I'm in PA.

Randy

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:36:48 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning

Peter, 
I paid 225.00 for mine, it sucks big time, scribe your bumper on the back,
make sure you get the same one back, they say the one I have is the one I
sent in, it was damaged on right side, this one was damaged all over, I
screwed up, I should know better, probably sold mine to someone else for
big bucks, it was cherry except for minor damage on right, chrome was
perfect, now, well, find a good place and let me know, ask if there is an
extra charge to remove blood and sh*t from bumper  after I stick it up his
a*s.
Lou 
lbiggs@intertek.net


- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Bumper Reconditioning
> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:15 PM
> 
> There was a thread not too long ago about a place that would shape a
bumper
> and triple plate it for something like $225 plus shipping.  I think it
was
> Desert Dog or DVAP.  One of them.  I just got a half way decent core
bumper
> for Redzilla, and need to send it off to make it acceptable to her.  Who
was
> it that was so prominent in our discussions just two weeks ago?  Forgive
the
> Senior Moment.  Peter.
> 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:33:16 -0000
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning

>and triple plate it for something like $225 plus shipping.  I think it was
Desert Dog or DVAP.  Who was it that was so prominent in our discussions
just two weeks ago?

It was Desert Dog.  www.desertdogautoparts.com

Randy

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:41:38 EST
From: Sprotten25@aol.com
Subject: Re: Two Lane Blacktop

can you get SPEEDVISION on dss?

Dino

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 16:31:31 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.

Mike Rothe. wrote:
> 
> Question for the gang here....
> 
> Someone from the list asked me about a carb for a 69 H/O.  Since I feel
> pretty qualified to answer just about ANY 69 H/O construction question,
> this did seem like an easy answer. These carbs were listed as Rochester
> QJ's, number 7029251.
> 
> HOWEVER, he said that some other H/O kinda guy said that all the cars
> built in April and May had only the 29251 number, without the "70" in
> front.  Puzzling.  I personally have never heard of this one.  The cars
> were built from the last week of March (03D) to the last week of May
> (05E).  So that would mean that 99% of all the 69 H/O's would have this
> 29251 number if this were true.  Mine was built the last week of March,
> and when I purchased mine, it had a 7029251 number on the carb.  I
> realize it could have been replaced, but all the H/O literature I can
> find references the "70" type number.  Even the GM parts books.
> Hmmmm....
> 
> Here's where it gets a bit interesting.  Kurt Karch, the H/O advisor
> never heard of this either, but when he checked HIS carb number, it was
> 29251.  Needless to say, he was surprised as well.
> 
> Ok, what's the deal?  Anyone got any skinny on this?  Joe Padavano, if
> you're reading this, what's YOUR carb number?  This perplexes me, since
> I've NEVER seen one.
> 
> Mike Rothe




Mike,

The 7029251 was also used on 1969 4-4-2's with
automatics (exc. W-30 and W-32).  And I have
seen this number abbreviated on them as well.
Although not just on ones date coded in     
April and May.  I've also seen them with  
the full 7029251 number without a date code
stamping.           
The date code on the carb (if present) 
will usually be approx. one month prior to 
the build date of the car.  Did you by chance 
get the date codes off the full and short 
numbered carbs? 


Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
503-244-8249

Web site:
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com

E-mail: supercars@transport.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:52:36 -0800 
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: Master cylinder swap  '66 F-85

Some things to consider
1) Think about doing your soft brake hoses just for safety at the same time.
Maybe hardlines too if they look suspect.

2) Carefully check the clearance of the dual circuit master against the
inner fender well. You may need to persuade the fender with some hammer
blows. Both my 66 big cars
needed this when I swapped in dual circuit masters.  The best thing to do
would be to find a master which has engine side outputs, but I don't think
Olds ever used these in
factory applications. Be sure that the bore of the master you select is the
same as the one you're replacing. 

3) Go to a junkyard and get a dual circuit hardline junction block. There
are old and new styles. Old is a rectangular block and was used from 67 or
so up to the early 70's. New (maybe 1973 and later) is rounder on the
corners. The piece you're looking for is square and has two inputs and three
outputs with an electrical switch in the middle. When properly wired to your
brake light, this switch will warn of loss of pressure during a problem.

4) Get an adjustable proportioning valve. Wilwood makes these and Jeg's has
'em. Maybe $50. Plumbing this in is the hardest part of the job, but it will
allow you to control the pressure to the rear brakes after the swap. This is
important because you want the front / rear bias to be correct. Can't recall
now just which should lock up first. 

6) I think pedal feel will be better if you use a brake booster which was
made for a dual circuit master. I'm in the market for one now, so I can't
confirm this. 67 and up is what you're looking for. 

Great swap. It will increase your confidence in your brakes. Especially good
if you do this _and_ put on front disks at the same time. Wow. What stopping
power.

cf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryt2Butch@aol.com [mailto:Ryt2Butch@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 3:01 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Master cylinder swap '66 F-85
> 
> 
> Greetings Fellow Oldsmobilians,
> 
> I have a '66 F-85 with a bad master cylinder, single well.  
> I'd like to
> replace it with a dual reservoir one and the requisite 
> proportioning valve.
> Anyone ever do this?  Got any tips?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Butch D'Ambrosio
> 
> 
> '66 F-85
> '67 Cutlass (RIP)
> 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:50:36 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Two Lane Blacktop

In a message dated 98-12-04 19:44:43 EST, you write:

<< can you get SPEEDVISION on dss?
 
 Dino
  >>
         YES!!    but it is part of some kinda package from direct TV. I think
i pay like 9.99 extra a month for Speedvision. It seems they have more shows
about boats and planes than cars and motorcycles, at least when i turn it
on......SCOTT

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:55:16 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: Bumper Reconditioning

That would be me. Following is a snip of e-mail with Bob. Many on the list
have dealt favorably with him.

<Snip>

To restore YOUR solid bumper cores, no matter how smashed or dented, is
$225.00
each with a full three year guarantee!

Sincerely,
Bob
Dog Auto Parts
http://www.desertdogautoparts.com
1-708-409-1040


- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs
mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com

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Personal ICQ Communication Center:
http://wwp.mirabilis.com/5209322

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For free Win95-98 Support, come visit <GJC> at:
http://www.salemcounty.com/win95board/multipage1.html
mailto:techsupport@salemcounty.com


- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Peter Berusch
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 7:16 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Bumper Reconditioning


There was a thread not too long ago about a place that would shape a bumper
and triple plate it for something like $225 plus shipping.  I think it was
Desert Dog or DVAP.  One of them.  I just got a half way decent core bumper
for Redzilla, and need to send it off to make it acceptable to her.  Who was
it that was so prominent in our discussions just two weeks ago?  Forgive the
Senior Moment.  Peter.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:12:06 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: how do you get stickers off?

ZIPPO FLUID

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of George
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 10:41 AM
To: OldsML
Subject: how do you get stickers off?



Hi Listers, 

Sounds like a stupid question: How do you get stickers off the chrome 
bumpers? I have two real hard ones. The surface is really firm and the 
glue just like concrete. They must be 20 years old. I Tried Acetone. I am 
sure heat will work but doesn't that put a blueish stain on the chrome? 
Any suggestions welcome!

Another question regarding bumpers: Working on the rear end I found a 
rust hole in the right lower end of the rear bumper... is there any way 
to fix this or to let it be fixed??? (Don't tell me to put a STICKER on 
it... )

Thanks, Regards, 
George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:15:45 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Value of '85 Olds

Sounds like a completely typical mid 80's GM.  That price is fair.  You're
getting a reliable piece of transportation that isn't a beater.  But beyond
that it doesn't really have anything going for it other than the
Oldsmobileness.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo



- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of SpeedCom@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 5:10 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Value of '85 Olds


Saw a rather clean 85 Olds 4 dr. today. It didn't have an ** badge on it,
but
I think that's what it is. Top of the line interior, lomething like LS, and
it
said some comforting words on the side...custom Brougham or some such.

Anyway, 127K miles on the 307, everything works except the cruise control.
He
says it burns a bit of oil between changes, but none shows. Drives out fine,
no looseness and good brakes (1 yr. since replacement) Tires are good.

Interior is in very good condition...plush cushions in grey cloth. Has had a
paint job...charcoal grey...over two years ago. The paint looks good from 20
ft :-) but isn't really fine job. Car just looks nice. I had an 82 Buick
much
like it, even the same color, and that was a good car.

Asking price is $1200 and he seems pretty solid on that. What are they worth
where you are?

Cheers/Don Carron
Rockford TN

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:17:09 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Olds in NASCAR

Well, they kick ass in drag racingm but I'd much rather see them in NASCAR.
It'd be real cool seeing the Aurora (though it'd probably be the Intrigue)
with fat slicks at all corners.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo



- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of jason shreve
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 5:39 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Olds in NASCAR


I may be incorrect but I heard they left Nascar to head to Drag Racing.

>Out of curiousity, who can give me info about Olds in NASCAR?  Like
when did
>they leave, why?  Who drove, was the cars always Cutlasses. etc. etc.
>Thanks masterminds!
>
>Ray Costanzo
>87 409 Cutlass
>Bucks County, PA
>costanzo@netcarrier.com
>
>


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:19:00 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: sat party

 peter....don't fprget your check book...auction tomorrow.....night....

see you sat .... jeff

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:27:41 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds quotes parts answered

 karate  kid...

I know i have an nos tail lt r-side for 75 omega....

cheap.....also  grills for 81 & 83 omega..

thanks   jeff...

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:30:34 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning Rod Shifter

where dod you get a blower setup for a 455?!

- -----Original Message-----

it now sports a 1025 HP blown 455 and
>special 400 tranny with duel gate shifter,, Thanks Norval
>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:36:03 -0800
From: "Corey Day" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Olds in NASCAR

Now it seems that they also have left drag racing, their presence is not as
it was a few years ago.

I also think that the something like the 2 door Alero would be nice to see
out on the oval tracks.

Corey D
dayc@ix.netcom.com
1970 Cutlass S - 455
- -----Original Message-----
From: jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Olds in NASCAR


>I may be incorrect but I heard they left Nascar to head to Drag Racing.
>
>>Out of curiousity, who can give me info about Olds in NASCAR?  Like
>when did
>>they leave, why?  Who drove, was the cars always Cutlasses. etc. etc.
>>Thanks masterminds!
>>
>>Ray Costanzo
>>87 409 Cutlass
>>Bucks County, PA
>>costanzo@netcarrier.com
>>
>>
>
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:32:53 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: how do you get stickers off?

cheapest and easiest - WD40. Peel as mich as you can and spray it. Works on
those dealersip stickers on paint to. No, it will not hurt the paint.

- -----Original Message-----

>
>Hi Listers,
>
>Sounds like a stupid question: How do you get stickers off the chrome
>bumpers? I have two real hard ones. The surface is really firm and the
>glue just like concrete. They must be 20 years old. I Tried Acetone. I am
>sure heat will work but doesn't that put a blueish stain on the chrome?
>Any suggestions welcome!
>
>Another question regarding bumpers: Working on the rear end I found a
>rust hole in the right lower end of the rear bumper... is there any way
>to fix this or to let it be fixed??? (Don't tell me to put a STICKER on
>it... )
>
>Thanks, Regards,
>George
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>'68 Cuttlass S Conv.
>http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:37:18 -0800
From: "Corey Day" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.

What is the CFM rating on this carb?

Corey D
dayc@ix.netcom.com
1970 Cutlass S - 455
- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.


>Mike Rothe. wrote:
>> 
>> Question for the gang here....
>> 
>> Someone from the list asked me about a carb for a 69 H/O.  Since I feel
>> pretty qualified to answer just about ANY 69 H/O construction question,
>> this did seem like an easy answer. These carbs were listed as Rochester
>> QJ's, number 7029251.
>> 
>> HOWEVER, he said that some other H/O kinda guy said that all the cars
>> built in April and May had only the 29251 number, without the "70" in
>> front.  Puzzling.  I personally have never heard of this one.  The cars
>> were built from the last week of March (03D) to the last week of May
>> (05E).  So that would mean that 99% of all the 69 H/O's would have this
>> 29251 number if this were true.  Mine was built the last week of March,
>> and when I purchased mine, it had a 7029251 number on the carb.  I
>> realize it could have been replaced, but all the H/O literature I can
>> find references the "70" type number.  Even the GM parts books.
>> Hmmmm....
>> 
>> Here's where it gets a bit interesting.  Kurt Karch, the H/O advisor
>> never heard of this either, but when he checked HIS carb number, it was
>> 29251.  Needless to say, he was surprised as well.
>> 
>> Ok, what's the deal?  Anyone got any skinny on this?  Joe Padavano, if
>> you're reading this, what's YOUR carb number?  This perplexes me, since
>> I've NEVER seen one.
>> 
>> Mike Rothe
>
>
>
>
>Mike,
>
>The 7029251 was also used on 1969 4-4-2's with
>automatics (exc. W-30 and W-32).  And I have
>seen this number abbreviated on them as well.
>Although not just on ones date coded in     
>April and May.  I've also seen them with  
>the full 7029251 number without a date code
>stamping.           
>The date code on the carb (if present) 
>will usually be approx. one month prior to 
>the build date of the car.  Did you by chance 
>get the date codes off the full and short 
>numbered carbs? 
>
>
>Greg Rollin
>Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
>503-244-8249
>
>Web site:
>http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
>
>E-mail: supercars@transport.com
>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 19:36:22 -0800
From: Ted Griffin <griffint@govst.edu>
Subject: Re: how do you get adhesive off vinyl top?

Try peanut butter.  (Preferrably non-chunky)  My wife uses it for all
sorts of stickers on delicate stuff.  Whatta you got to loose?  If it
don't work,.... eat it.  :-)

Andrew C. Green wrote:

> > In a slant to the bumper goo, How does one remove the remaining
> > adhesive from 2 months of masking tape adhered to a vinyl top.
>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:46:12 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Poor idle/ Manifold deposit buildup

In a message dated 12/4/98 11:46:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
gerschjt@flyernet.udayton.edu writes:

<< OK guys, I can't take this anymore.  I have passively usurped all 
 this information on this as I could.  I've tried everything I can 
 think of.  My car will not idle until warmed up (even then the idle 
 is not great).  It will fast idle roughly then die out.  Put it in 
 gear . . .stalls out.  This is a 77 350/350 combo I put in an 82 CSC. 
  I used everything off the 350 (carb, dist., etc.).  I rebuilt the 
 carb (new gaskets and such) this past weekend to no avail.  I 
 tightened the carb studs down to specs (or at least tried....130 
 ft.lbs on the long bolts...i broke two off in the manifold!  Is 130 
 right?) to try to eliminate vacuum leaks there.  I thing it may be is 
 vacuum lines.  I have no idea where they all go.  They were all mixed 
 up when I bought the engine.  Does anyone have a 77 350 carb 
 (4bbl. Q-jet) that is willing to help me out here?  I need to know 
 physical the location of the physical port on the carb and where it 
 leads to, ie. front vacuum break.
   	Also while I had the carb off I noticed inside the manifold 
 straight down under each primary there are holes about 1.5 cm dia.  
 This were all crusted over, on side down to a hole the size of a 
 pencil.  Is this important?  Is this some heat/vacuum/EGR thing, or 
 is it for the intake gas mixture?  Is my whole manifold probably like 
 this?  
 
 TIA
 JOE >>

     Joe, got a 77 quadrajet on my 403. If you need help with it, let me
know..kinda in a rush now..(but the front vacuum break should be plumbed into
the port right next to it..the nipple on the break points almost right to it)
I know what you are talking about in the manifold...stupid things have two
different size nuts at the bottom..actually broke a socket taking them off.
They ARE EGR "things" and the machine shop working on my motor told me I could
remove them with no harm...removing EGR on my motor also. I used brass plugs
to fill them, but one seemed to be an odd size..just rethreaded the plug as I
forced it in. Oh well, not like it will fall out.  Dorian

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:45:49 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Two Lane Blacktop

In a message dated 12/4/98 2:12:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, cshankle@home.com
writes:


<< Not much Olds talk here, but Gene mentioned the movie Two Lane Blacktop
 in a recent post.  I have been looking for that movie forever, and since
 it was made before I was, I have never seen it.  All the gearheads seem
 to love it though, and I am sure I would be no exception.  Any help on
 finding a copy of this would be greatly appreciated.
 Brian. >>

Brian,
 Better yet is a movie called HOT ROD. Lot's of street and street racing. Bad
boy in movie has 68 442 that starts out as street car and by end of movie has
blower and dual quads . Paint job on car is definately out of the late 60's
early 70's but that was also before your time it sounds like. (Had to be there
during the era to appreciate)

Rgds,
RobThomas
69 442

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:59:37 EST
From: SpeedCom@aol.com
Subject: Re: Value of '85 Olds

In a message dated 12/4/98
 7:<BR17:<BR20 PM Central Standard Tim, costanzo@netcarrier.com writes:>
Sounds like a completely typical mid 80's GM.  That price is fair.  You're
>  getting a reliable piece of transportation that isn't a beater.  But beyond
>  that it doesn't really have anything going for it other than the
>  Oldsmobileness.

Pretty much the way I feel. It is good solid transportation, not excitement.

However, I'm also looking at another car that HAS got something going for it
*in addition* to Oldsness :-) And I'm not going to say anything else until I
get a deal made. <VBG>

Cheers/Carron

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:05:42 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: HOT ROD MOVIE

Whow . just realized I guess I better start looking at the screen when typing
instead of fingers as the last msg. about this movie should have said lots of
Street & strip racing and the bad boy has a 69 not 68.  Long week today.

Rgds
Rob Thomas

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:06:21 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: I'm finally back on the list

Hello fellow listmembers!!!

Well, after a few month hiatus from the list, I'm finally back.  My younger
brother took the old computer to college with him and it took my mother and
me awhile to buy a new one and get hooked back up to the net.  I see not
much has changed in the fact that I've only been on the list about an hour
or so and I've already got 30+ messages.

So anyway, I think I'll reintroduce myself since it seems like there's a lot
of new people.

My name is Bill Reilly, and I currently own 3 Oldsmobiles, but it didn't
start out that way.  I started my collection with my pride and joy, a 1985
Cutlass Supreme that I bought used in 1994.  It was well kept car and only
had 55,000 miles on it.  It has most options, including the 307, buckets and
a console.  I used it as a daily driver and pizza delivery car for the next
4 years.  It still looks decent but has seen better days.  It currently has
@120K miles on it, however, it's been up on blocks for the past ten months
as it undergoes an engine and tranny swap.  Then it heads to the body shop
for a complete face lift, including a rare set of 1988 Hurst areo ground
effects and a US Body source W30 hood. Now if I could only get it
running!!!!

What was supposed to be a quick engine swap (a stock 455) has turned into a
major rehab and upgrade that started out as a small might-as-well.  I've
upgraded the front suspension with a Herb Adams sway bar, PST springs, KYB
shocks, PST poly bushings, Hotchkis upper A-arms, and GM 12 inch discs.  I
also had the power steering rebuilt with the fast ratio gearing, detailed
the engine compartment and front 1/3 of the frame, and am stuck right now
without the proper crossmember for my transmission.  So, I have no idea when
it's going to be done since my current job keeps me pretty busy and with
winter setting in, I probably won't be able to work on it for awhile.

I also own a 1983 Cutlass Ciera 4 door.  It was my daily driver for a while
until I got a company car when I started working for Makita Power Tools.  I
also recently purchased a 1984 Cutlass Supreme to be a "fun" car next
summer.  My younger brother and myself went halfs on it.  It only cost $100
and  has a somewhat dying 6 banger engine.  The body and interior are in
pretty decent shape.  I'm probably buying a '73 Cutlass with a 350 in it
after the Holidays to donate a motor and tranny to the '84.

So you can see I'm ADDICTED!!!

Well it's great to be back, and I hope everyone is doing well.

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme
'83 Ciera
'84 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:19:20 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: I'm finally back on the list

Welcome back Bill!

Hey, you sold me a guage cluster for my 87, and it still isn't in!  Ahhh!
But I'm getting another one without OD indication anyway...
Maybe I'll put it in for fun this weekend since it's like 70 degrees in PA.

Anyway, welcome back.



Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
Bucks County, PA
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

NOT IN THE DESERT

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:46:39 +0000
From: f85@juno.com (Joe R Brockman)
Subject: Rear End Transfer

I was wondering, what kind of vehicle would I be able to get a rear end
to work on my car.  It is a 66 F-85.  I was just wondering so that could
find one in a junkyard.  Any help would be great thanks.

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 22:12:58 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: 69 Hurst Olds Carbs.

No Greg, I didn't even bother to check the date codes.  But now I most
certainly will.  And my car isn't close enough to me right now to go and
look.  True, the 251 was pretty much the standard 4 bbl all around for
69.  Nothing special about it really.  These carbs DO exist, which now I
know of at least one, anyway.  My concern was with what was "correct"
for the 69 H/O, whether the 70 should be there or not.  I'm a
fact-finding sonofagun when it comes to this unique version of
Oldsmobile.

It was just "Intrigue"-ing to find this out.  I feel like I must've been
under a rock for years.  :)


> The 7029251 was also used on 1969 4-4-2's with
> automatics (exc. W-30 and W-32).

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:14:20 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning

Who did this shit to you?  Maybe, if we're real stealthy, we could
infiltrate under cover of darkness and fuck them up and get extricated
before anyone knew we were there.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning


>Peter,
>I paid 225.00 for mine, it sucks big time, scribe your bumper on the back,
>make sure you get the same one back, they say the one I have is the one I
>sent in, it was damaged on right side, this one was damaged all over, I
>screwed up, I should know better, probably sold mine to someone else for
>big bucks, it was cherry except for minor damage on right, chrome was
>perfect, now, well, find a good place and let me know, ask if there is an
>extra charge to remove blood and sh*t from bumper  after I stick it up his
>a*s.
>Lou
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>
>
>----------
>> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Bumper Reconditioning
>> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:15 PM
>>
>> There was a thread not too long ago about a place that would shape a
>bumper
>> and triple plate it for something like $225 plus shipping.  I think it
>was
>> Desert Dog or DVAP.  One of them.  I just got a half way decent core
>bumper
>> for Redzilla, and need to send it off to make it acceptable to her.  Who
>was
>> it that was so prominent in our discussions just two weeks ago?  Forgive
>the
>> Senior Moment.  Peter.
>>

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 22:28:20 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning

> Who did this s#&t to you?  Maybe, if we're real stealthy, we could
> infiltrate under cover of darkness and f@$k them up and get extricated
> before anyone knew we were there.  Peter.

(This message is posted to the list so EVERYONE gets a little reminder.)

Sorry Peter, I took the liberty of editing out the language that is a
no-no on this list.  Otherwise, I still think the message could be
understood.  Maybe it was meant for a personal reply, but ya gotta watch
it or Greg "The Terminator" will toss you off the list.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 19:30:35 PST
From: "Brent Pinkstaff" <fear_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Two Lane Blacktop

George Lucas likes to put the THX 1138 thing in just about everything. 
In the original script for Star Wars, the stormtrooper that Luke steals 
the uniform was THX1138 (in the movie it was TK421). In the movie, Luke 
says that Chewbacca is a transfer from prison block 1138. Not to mention 
his various THX production groups and companies that Lucas has around. 
Don't remember it being all that great of a movie though.

Brent Pinkstaff
'70 Cutlass S (Mr. Hankey, the Cutlass Poo)


>Yep.  The movie was actually THX 1138, the plate (limited to 6 
>letters) was
>THX 138 (hey, where else are you gonna get gems like this?)

>Joe Padavano


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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:30:11 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning

Thanks Mike.  You're right.  That message was not intended for the open
list.  It was intended to be sent covertly.  My apologies to anyone who
might have been offended by this exchange.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rothe. <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning


>> Who did this s#&t to you?  Maybe, if we're real stealthy, we could
>> infiltrate under cover of darkness and f@$k them up and get extricated
>> before anyone knew we were there.  Peter.
>
>(This message is posted to the list so EVERYONE gets a little reminder.)
>
>Sorry Peter, I took the liberty of editing out the language that is a
>no-no on this list.  Otherwise, I still think the message could be
>understood.  Maybe it was meant for a personal reply, but ya gotta watch
>it or Greg "The Terminator" will toss you off the list.
>
>Mike Rothe

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:04:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: Bumper Reconditioning

Desert Dog did yours??

At 06:36 PM 12/4/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Peter, 
>I paid 225.00 for mine, it sucks big time, scribe your bumper on the back,
>make sure you get the same one back, they say the one I have is the one I
>sent in, it was damaged on right side, this one was damaged all over, I
>screwed up, I should know better, probably sold mine to someone else for
>big bucks, it was cherry except for minor damage on right, chrome was
>perfect, now, well, find a good place and let me know, ask if there is an
>extra charge to remove blood and sh*t from bumper  after I stick it up his
>a*s.
>Lou 
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>

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