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oldsmobile-digest      Friday, December 25 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1684



Re: Scanner for Olds Pics
Re: New Muscle Car Review Mag
4 BARREL AIR CLEANER
christmas to list
Holiday Time
(no subject)
Re: '99 Olds Nats??
Re: '99 Olds Nats??
W-27
UNBOUNCE: '34 F-34 Olds FS
Re: My cars TRACTION
Re: Scanner for Olds Pics
Re: Scanner for Olds Pics...not really Olds content<G>
Re: W-27
Date:	Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:35:45 -0500
Dec. Car Craft Mag.
Re: UNBOUNCE: "dirt-ball" spark tester
Re: Scanner for Olds Pics
Re: 4 BARREL AIR CLEANER
Re: Battery in rear wiring opinions needed.
Scanning Olds Photos
Re: 425 Crank Question
Re: 425 Crank Question
Re: 1970 442 parts car and parts for sale
Re: Scanner for Olds Pics
Re: 1970 442 parts car and parts for sale
Re: 425 Crank Question
Re: 425 Crank Question
Re: Scanner for Olds Pics
RE: 82 NOT starting
Re: 425 Crank Question
Re: 425 Crank Question
Re: Scanner for Olds Pics
RE: Scanner for Olds Pics * got them 4 sale*
Holiday
Re: '66 Brakes
Re: 468 Olds Hemi???
olds diesel
Rear Stabilizer Bar
I'm going to throw this computer put the window.
Re: Holiday
Re: Rear Stabilizer Bar
Need 1972 442 W-29 paint stripe specs
Another Case of Mistaken Identity
Pinstripe Question
Re: [Need 1972 442 W-29 paint stripe specs]
Happy Holidays

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 03:23:32 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics

best bang for the buck is the storm image wave photo scanner scans photo
quality for low cost check out their website at www.storm.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Landowski <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 11:12 PM
Subject: Scanner for Olds Pics


>I was looking for a good but not too $$$ of a scanner to scan some of my
>Olds pics to my soon to be web-site. Anyone out there with some experience
>in this field you can e-mail me....
>
>OLDS CONTENT:OLDS PICS NEED TO BE SCANNED
>
>Pettrix@prodigy.net
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:41:47 EST
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Muscle Car Review Mag

what month was this in ?   i have one of each and have been following this
subject with interest!   steven,  w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:42:45 EST
From: MrExMt@aol.com
Subject: 4 BARREL AIR CLEANER

IM LOOKING FOR A 69-69 RED 4 BARRELL AIR CLEANER IN ANY CONDITION. PLEASE E-
MAIL ME PRIVATELY WITH CONDITION & COST.
THANKS TO ALL & HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!
LEIGH TENENHOLTZ
'68 CUTLASS S CONVERT.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:50:21 EST
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: christmas to list

to all on list;  peace and good will to you and your families,   and to those
who will be traveling a safe journey.    steven,  w30442cs@aol.com
christmas to me is the smile of children and the closenest of family.
olds content; who`s going to nat`s in dallas?

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:48:52 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Holiday Time

Everyone have a safe and happy holiday.  The company I work for is making me
take the next 10 days off, paid of course, so I will be home with the wife and
kids until the 4th.  Wife and kids huh?  Maybe this is not such a great deal
after all ;)  I hope to get some things done so the Olds can move back into
the garage and out of the weather.  I have been so busy with "honey do"
repairs, the Olds has not been put to bed for the winter yet.  I am going to
uns*b for this time off so I don't shut down our e-mail system and get myself
into hot water.  See everyone next year!

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:01:06 -0800
From: Dana Cornelius <mecctazoo@gpcom.net>
Subject: (no subject)

I am located in Nebraska, have a 1934 f-34 oldsmobile for sale it is a 
complete car, restoration has been started, the car was driveable and 
complete when we started rebuild.  Have lost interest in project will 
sell with-in 30 days  for the best offer I receive. 

My e-mail address is  - meccdaco@gpcom.net

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 12:07:39 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: '99 Olds Nats??

Ken and Grace write:

<< What you need to do is drive [from Chicago] down I-35 to Kansas City and
have the St. Lou[is] crowd drive west on I-70, then link up at my place and
continue down I-35 to Texas.  I might have my new place by then........... >>

Well, now there is conflict, because that would put us due west of Tennesse
and Clayton and Lucille and Greg "have you incinerated your 260 today?"
Pruett.

These have not actually voiced interest in the (apparently) Mega-caravan, but
am more than willing to accomodate them.

Perhaps this is a good time to mention: is there anyone lurking or on-list
that will not be driving but would still like to be a passenger in the
caravan?
And can ~almost~ gaurantee someone will be going back that way....

SOM ~is~ a 4dr hdtp.

Room for three...well two more, gotta reserve room for the cooler fulla Pepsi.
Yup, another addiction.
Gotta be alert on the road.

After all, cant ignore the Olds folk who still own Vegas.....

SOM

&KA

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 12:07:44 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: '99 Olds Nats??

Yes.

The 1999 caravan sounds like a mammoth road trip.

Karl and I just want everyone to realize that touring the midwest to
convenience others en route will require additional days on the road.

Karl and I could probably make it to TX in 40 hrs or less.
I have no serious problems, and I do ~not~ know when HE sleeps!
(if at all!)

I believe Karl plans to take the entire week off, from June 20 to 26, plus the
following Sunday and Monday to ensure adequate travel time.

We just want everyone (like Mr. Biggs) to know that they should plan on
(waking up with hangovers, because Karl arrived on Sunday) traveling on
Monday, staying at a hotel Monday night, being on the road all day Tuesday,
and staying at a hotel in the Irving, Texas(Dallas/Ft. Worth area).

Incidentally, it is noteworthy to mention; JFK flew from Fort Worth to Dallas,
because of a rivalry between the two cities. It would have been an insult to
Dallas for him to be driven from one to the other.

And no, I was not forged, nor was Karl born at that time, though we both
recognize a great loss to this country.

SOM

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:09:56 -0600
From: steven@purplemonkey.com (Steven Saraceno)
Subject: W-27

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Got the cover off with the razor knife, thanks to everyone for their =
suggestions.  I'm happy to report it's a 3.42, exactly what I was hoping =
for (couldn't find the code).

Another question.  Does anyone know if and where I can get a support for =
the rear.  I forgot what it is called but it mounts to the housing and =
then to the axles and keeps the axles from bending away from the =
aluminum center.  They were made for Dana's but I'm not sure if there is =
one for the GM 12 bolts.  Any suggestions, do I even need one with a =
mild W-30 engine.

Steven
70 W-30 convertible.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 13:18:20 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '34 F-34 Olds FS

Not on the list; respond to mecctazoo@gpcom.net if interested. Might be a
nice Christmas present for someone!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Dana Cornelius <mecctazoo@gpcom.net>
Subject: (no subject)

I am located in Nebraska, have a 1934 f-34 oldsmobile for sale it is a 
complete car, restoration has been started, the car was driveable and 
complete when we started rebuild.  Have lost interest in project will 
sell with-in 30 days  for the best offer I receive. 

My e-mail address is  - meccdaco@gpcom.net

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:58:46 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: My cars TRACTION

Well, one thing I would like to note:
ALWAYS use a Stop-watch and standard test track before trying to get a
different shift pattern!  It usually 'feels' like you're going faster
when you shift late, but not always so, especially in an olds as light
as yours with a 455/3.23's!  If you can, race beside a "control" car who
always shifts the same way to, as it may shock you as to what actually
works.  On my car (75 Cutlass, 455, 2.73, no powerhouse) I could gain by
shifting earlier, but the ONLY way to tell is to try against a
measurable test to see.

One cheap way to get a higher shift: crimp / disconnect modulator valve
vacuum line (NOT really a good idea, more of a joke)...

As an afterthought, though, you probably want Drive to give you a
smooth, easy on things acceleration, and manual shifts for racing....

Just my .03 (Inflation, what can you get for .02 these days)

Eric Aksomitis
mailto:big_olds@hotmail.com
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/


Igor T. '81 DRB 455 wrote:
> 
> Okay so it is no secret that my car can't hook.  I just encountered a funny
> thing, though.  I noticed that my car was quite a bit slower (feeling) when
> I left the shifter in D as opposed to manually shifting it.  It seamed to me
> that it took a lot longer to get to 4000 RPM then when I do it manually.
> Today, I finally figured it out (and no, I am not stupid).  The car shifts
> in 2nd right after launch (after it destroys the tires) and then uses 2nd.
> gear to accelerate.  I noticed that in first at WOT launch, tach goes to
> 4000 RPM and stays there and I have to manually shift ASAP after hook up
> (2days, 5hours, 15minutes,.... later).  I am barley moving when I shift.
> What can I do to get the trans to stay in first at WOT when shifter is in D.
> Thanks.
> 
> Igor Todorovic
> 1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23s)

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:00:05 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics

If you can get a scanner that has TWAIN support and then download Paintshop Pro
from the web.  True the PSP is only an evaluation version but there are ways
around that and it is very powerful and supports all sorts of files (including
the big 3: JPG, BMP, and GIF).  Included is an animated GIF creator that I used
to "morf" my before and after pictures of my car into an animated gif.

Paint Shop Pro has been around for forever so there are tutorials on the Web
about how to use it to create cool effects.

Peter Landowski wrote:
> 
> I was looking for a good but not too $$$ of a scanner to scan some of my
> Olds pics to my soon to be web-site. Anyone out there with some experience
> in this field you can e-mail me....
> 
> OLDS CONTENT:OLDS PICS NEED TO BE SCANNED
> 
> Pettrix@prodigy.net

- -- 

Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit) (soon to be a 455 :)
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 12:53:49 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics...not really Olds content<G>

I responded to this privately, but since everybody else is doing it...

>Isn't the available pic formats a function of the software? You are
absolutely
>correct that JPEG is the most convenient and universal transfer format.

This has already been correctly answered...file formats are a function of
software only.  So make sure that the software that comes with the scanner
is halfway decent (any halfway decent i.e. not Joe Bob's Scanner Corp.
scanner will have halfway decent software, at least halfway decent enough
to support JPEGs.)

>
>If you have a PC (I mean, not a Mac), then be sure you get a TWAIN-compatible
>scanner. Then you will be able to scan a convertible file which will make
>.bmp,.jpg,.tif,.gif, and who knows what else, depending upon the power of
your
>software package.

This is slightly off-base. TWAIN is a scanner communication standard that
was established so software manufacturers would not have to support every
individual scanner on the market...they could just code to the TWAIN
standard, hope that the consumer would be bright enough to buy a TWAIN
scanner, again hope that the scanner manufacturer made it truly TWAIN
compliant (as opposed to just putting another acronym on the box), and
hopefully that would be the end of it.

TWAIN has nothing to do with file formats (again, because file formats are
software-controlled, and TWAIN is a hardware standard), it has to do with
what software will work with what scanner (basically, if a piece of
software supports TWAIN-conforming scanners, then it will support basically
any scanner on the market today).  Note also that TWAIN is a parallel-port
standard, and not the route that I recommended (SCSI is, by far, the W-30
of the PC bus world...OLDS CONTENT WITHOUT EVEN TRYING!)
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:44:51 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: W-27

>Another question.  Does anyone know if and where I can get a support for the
>rear.  I forgot what it is called but it mounts to the housing and then to
>the axles and keeps the axles from bending away from the aluminum center.
>They were made for Dana's but I'm not sure if there is one for the GM 12
>bolts.  Any suggestions, do I even need one with a mild W-30 engine.

>Steven
>70 W-30 convertible.


Steven,

LPW makes a differential cover that acts
as a girdle for the carrier.  They offer
an upgrade cover which has two struts that 
connect the ends of the axle tubes to the 
cover.  The problem is they are not available
for the O axle.  And if they were, the end
bracket for the strut must be welded onto the
end of the axle tube (Which I doubt you want
to do to a W-27).  In addition, the struts
will cause interference with the stock shock
location.  To answer your question if such a 
devise is required, I would say no.  However,
I would NOT suggest using slicks or any kind
of super sticky street tires with a W-27.  
BTW, isn't a "mild W-30" a contradiction of
terms? ;-)      
 

Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
503-244-8249

Web site:
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com

E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:35:45 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Date:	Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:35:45 -0500

Unsubscribe

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:51:48 EST
From: MFATZII@aol.com
Subject: Dec. Car Craft Mag.

Finally picked up the December issue of Car Craft and saw a couple pretty cool
pics of Cutlass' doing burnouts.  One was an 83 with the front end off the
ground.  It also had a wanna be H/O paintjob/sticker package, probably didn't
have the 307 in it :)

Ryan

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 12:55:18 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: "dirt-ball" spark tester

Uh, can't you just pull one plug, hold it against the block, and look for spark
while someone cranks the car?  Or just find someone car-illiterate to hold the
wire.  If they just stare at you then you don't have spark.  If they jump and
start shaking their hand then you have good spark.  If they fall over and start
convulsing put the wire back on, close the hood, and start asking in a load
voice, "Are you all right?, what happened?, are you having a seizure?" :)

Greg Beaulieu wrote that Bill B. wrote:
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:   "Bill B." <Pianotuner@fastservice.com>
> Subject: "dirt-ball" spark tester
> 
> My disabled 82 sitting out on the curb may have a chain problem, but I
> am really hoping for a low spark possibility.  I used a 110 to 250V neon
> test light with one side clipped to a distributor plug output to check
> for evidence of spark voltage.  It did light up to tell me that
> something was happening, but I don't know if there is enough spark.
> Anyone have an idea for a "dirt-ball" spark tester that would reliably
> measure the output?
> 
> Bill Bussell

Have you checked that there is no gas in the oil from a stuck float in the
carb?  You have tried the WOT test to be sure it's not just super flooded?  How
do the plugs look?  Please do not be offended, I'm just asking.  BTW: you're
right, it doesn't sound like your fuel lines are frozen.

- -- 
Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit) (soon to be a 455 :)
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 05:13:17 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics

all scanners create a bitmap not a jpeg the software is what formats the
file to tif gif jpg bmp pcx gfx etc
- -----Original Message-----
From: RAC5419@aol.com <RAC5419@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics


>In a message dated 12/23/98 11:12:50 PM Central Standard Time,
>PETTRIX@prodigy.net writes:
>
><< I was looking for a good but not too $$$ of a scanner to scan some of my
> Olds pics to my soon to be web-site. >>
>
>I read somewhere last week that some of the cheaper scanners can't make a
jpg
>file, although there was a way to convert them to jpg. The bottom line of
the
>article was that the non-jpg files are much bigger and take forever to
>attached and send Olds pictures via e-mail. Recommend that whatever you get
it
>does it in jpg.
>
>Dick Compton
>72 442 convertible
>RAC5419@AOL.COM

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 05:10:19 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: 4 BARREL AIR CLEANER

will check with my friend in california he has one of mine where are you
located?
- -----Original Message-----
From: MrExMt@aol.com <MrExMt@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 9:43 AM
Subject: 4 BARREL AIR CLEANER


>IM LOOKING FOR A 69-69 RED 4 BARRELL AIR CLEANER IN ANY CONDITION. PLEASE
E-
>MAIL ME PRIVATELY WITH CONDITION & COST.
>THANKS TO ALL & HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!
>LEIGH TENENHOLTZ
>'68 CUTLASS S CONVERT.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 13:03:56 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Battery in rear wiring opinions needed.

Dave Cullen wrote:
> 
> <huge snip>
> Don't forget you also gotta run a similar sized cable from battery negative
> back to the engine block for ground.

Yeah, it's called the frame;)  Run a large cable from the battery - to the
frame near the trunk and a large cable from the frame to the motor at the
front.

- -- 
Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit) (soon to be a 455 :)
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 15:24:23 EST
From: GaryDW30@aol.com
Subject: Scanning Olds Photos

Seasons Greetings To All,

To anyone on the list, I'm extending this offer. I'll scan your Olds photos
into most any format you'd like, free.

If you'd like touch-ups, a print on Kodak paper, zip disk, etc. A nominal
charge to cover materials.

I've got a H-P 6250 scanner, and CorelDraw 8, and Photodraw 2000, as part of
the software to work with.

Those interested, please contact me privately.

Gary

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 12:35:33 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 425 Crank Question

What about four four deuce.



><< They I should do that!!! Then I could say yes everytime someone asks 
me 
> if I had a 442 in it I could say YES!!!!!!!!!!  Does anyone else get 
> that question.  Seems people think there was a 442 cid engine.
>  >>
>How about the other comment I think we hear.
>
>"Oh thats a nice four forty two you have".
>
>Lou Principe 
>69 W-30
>
>


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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 13:55:52 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: 425 Crank Question

Or stupid me, I'm following a foreign car made in some Barvarian country and I
say "Jeeze, you'd think they could come up with a name for that car not just a
bunch of numbers."  Wife just stares at me until I go Doh! :))

jason shreve wrote:
> 
> What about four four deuce.
> 
> ><< They I should do that!!! Then I could say yes everytime someone asks
> me
> > if I had a 442 in it I could say YES!!!!!!!!!!  Does anyone else get
> > that question.  Seems people think there was a 442 cid engine.
> >  >>
> >How about the other comment I think we hear.
> >
> >"Oh thats a nice four forty two you have".
> >
> >Lou Principe
> >69 W-30
> >
> >
> 
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

- -- 

Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit) (soon to be a 455 :)
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 15:01:13 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Re: 1970 442 parts car and parts for sale

Would this steering column fit my '67 Cutlass convertible. If not, does anyone
know which years will fit a '67.

TIA
Shane Gibreal

SOMMERVLLE@aol.com wrote:

> I have just picked up a 1970 442 parts car with good quarters small holes but
> would make excellent patches(around the wheel wells soild southern car)call
> for more  info. 4 core radiator support in good shape little rust $150 or 
best
> offer. floor shift colum, black in good shape $50 OBO,one that needs paint
> $40. front and rear bumper cores in decent shape 50 for both with all lenses
> and lights $75. rear quarter glass in great shape $50 for pair. rear window
> $50. front sway bar $25. 1970 442 frame SOLID $100, car has a few other 
things
> on it and in good shape e-mail with your needs and will let you know about 
the
> condition. I am in Fayetteville NC (910)487-1540. Thanks Chris

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 15:57:40 -0600
From: Mark <greenmm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics

I personally have an Info model.  If you have never heard of Info its
because it was the cheapest one I could find.  And guess what, it scans
great.  Better than I had hoped.  The software lets me crop my images
and I can easily transport my images into L-View ( a great shareware
program I recommend downloading that lets me change pics to BMP or GIF
or JPEG) or any of my Office 98 programs ( the slide maker or Word or
Excel).  The only real thing you need to worry about is the scanning
resolution (in my opinion).  The salesperson told me the scanner was not
the best (no easy way to turn on and junk).  I easily access my scanner
from my START menu and still dont know what he was talking about.  My
Info sscans normal sized pages and I love it, especially since it only
cost around $100 over some 6 months ago. Good luck in your search.

  As for Olds content, my images are on the internet.
<http://home.earthlink.net/~greenmm>
and click on the Oldsmobile Delta 88 (or rather the writing)

Mark MacDonald
1975 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Rotale Conv.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:03:12 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 1970 442 parts car and parts for sale

Shane wrote:
> 
> Would this steering column fit my '67 Cutlass convertible. If not, does 
anyone
> know which years will fit a '67.
> 
> TIA
> Shane Gibreal




Shane,

As far as a direct bolt-in goes, the 67 columns 
will fit just that.  1967 only.  66 and older
models do not feature the collapsible shaft.
And they use different wiring for the signals, etc.
The neutral safety switches are also different
configurations.  The 68 column is shorter, but 
perhaps could be adapted using some of the 67 parts.  
The same would apply to the 69-72 columns,
but you would have two ignition lock cylinders.
As the 69 and up models cylinder is located in
the column.

 
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
503-244-8249

Web site:
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com

E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:10:20 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: 425 Crank Question

Yes, a 425 crank in a small block will work. If you get a 350 Block, put a 425
crank in it, .030 over, you get 454inches. It will work, so keep with the
ideas

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:11:51 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: 425 Crank Question

It wasnt a 442 the 442ci in was in, it was a Cutlass S

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:16:59 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics

No, Scaners dont scan into a format, the program you use to scan. Gifs are
smaller than jpgs anyways, either will be fine for email and webpages.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:24:36 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: 82 NOT starting

> -----Original Message-----
>
> 
> Igor would tell you to pull the motor and drop a 455 in it.
> 

Igor is wise then.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 16:36:36 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: 425 Crank Question

>It wasnt a 442 the 442ci in was in, it was a Cutlass S

Ohh.  Well anyway, if it were a 442 then it would work great.  Close enough.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 15:26:59 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 425 Crank Question

Gutlass66@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Yes, a 425 crank in a small block will work. If you get a 350 Block, put a 
425
> crank in it, .030 over, you get 454inches. It will work, so keep with the
> ideas



As pointed out earlier, the big block crankshaft's
main journals are too large to fit in a gas 350
(without extensive block/crank work).  A big block
crank will fit the diesel 350 with some modifications
to the block to allow for the larger counterweights.
Regardless, a 350 bored .030 with a 425's crankshaft
would yield a displacement of 417 cubic inches.

 
Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
503-244-8249
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 16:57:35 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Scanner for Olds Pics

You're correct, the format is the software's responsibility not the hardware. 
Note:
	GIF's are limited to 256 colours
	GIF's can have a transparent background
	GIF's can be animated
	JPG's have adjustable lossey (you lose resolution and/or colours)
compression.  This means you can choose how much to compress the image and then
see if you notice the quality degradation.  The more compression the more
quality loss.  Some images are simpler so they compress better this way.

My general rules,
	if (animated image) or (transparent background) or (few colors) then 
		GIF
	else
		JPG
	end if

I originally scanned all my images in and saved them as TIF's and converted
them to GIF's and put them on my page.  With high colour monitors you could see
the color gradations (because of only having 256 colours) so I re-scanned them
and saved them as JPG's immediately.  Much nicer.	

Oldsmobile content, my Olds looked crappy as a GIF image.  Merry Christmas
everyone, may we all get NOS parts under the tree.

Gutlass66@aol.com wrote:
> 
> No, Scaners dont scan into a format, the program you use to scan. Gifs are
> smaller than jpgs anyways, either will be fine for email and webpages.

- -- 
Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit) (soon to be a 455 :)
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 17:22:25 -0800
From: "Bruce Camilli" <bcam@vel.net>
Subject: RE: Scanner for Olds Pics * got them 4 sale*

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70 Olds Delta 88 Convertible 350ci
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 20:48:12 +0000
From: ejhufnagel1@juno.com (Edward J Hufnagel)
Subject: Holiday

Merry Christmas to all.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 20:25:54 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: '66 Brakes

Here's the question: will a complete power disc brake set up from a '69-'72
A-body bolt
on to '66? I guess I  would get complete spindles, knuckles, everything
between the ball
joints -- and try to get everything else brand new.
____________

Chris,

Chris Smetana has provided most of the details, but here are a few
additonal things to look out for:

Master cylinder/power booster:  The early-style small diameter power
booster will not work with the dual-reservoir master cylinder due to the
length of the pushrod (it's longer on the early boosters).  You can
disassemble your early booster and rebuild it with a shortened pushrod,
however the length of the pushrod is critical for proper brake functioning,
so unless you can get the exact measurement and have access to a machine
shop, this is probably not a good choice.  The large diameter booster from
a 67 works with the dual-reservoir M/C, will bolt up to all 64-67 A-bodies,
and it _will_ clear the valve covers on a 330 or other small block Olds.  I
can't say for sure if it will clear a big block (the "notched" covers may
be required, or it may not fit at all - I just don't have any experience
here).  You can also go with the aftermarket small diameter boosters (a la
Mondello and others), but be aware that they are not necessarily a direct
bolt-in.

Brake line flare nuts:  GM, in an attempt to prevent the incorrect
connection of brake lines on the assembly line, tried to make every
different connection a unique thread size.  As a result, GM used some
non-standard flare nut fittings on the brake lines going to the M/C and
proportioning valve.  When I say non-standard, the male thread on the nut
is not necessarily the same one that you'd get if you went to an auto parts
store and bought a flare nut for that size tube.  The result is that when
you get the disc setup and proportioning valve from the donor car, be sure
to get all the mating flare nuts.  You may need to reuse some of them.  In
a pinch, you can also get adapters from most well-stocked auto parts
stores, but this is a less than sanitary solution, due to the added chance
of leakage.

Proportioning valve:  GM used two different valve configurations, the
integral and the separate.  The separate design was used from 67-70, and
usually takes the form of a valve mounted below the master cylinder and
plumbed in series with the rear brake line between the M/C and the brass
distribution block.  Typically cars using this separate proportioning valve
used the same distribution block as the drum cars.  Starting in 1971, the
proportioning valve was combined with the distribution block (and the brake
warning light switch, which was also located in the drum brake distribution
block) into a single housing which mounted to the frame near the starter.
As has been discussed here before, there are a number of different
proportioning valves, each calilbrated for a specific application (2 dr, 4
dr, wagon) due to the differences in weight distribution.  Unless you can
get one from a donor car of the same configuration as yours, you may find
it easier to go with an aftermarket adjustable proportioning valve.  Note
that you _will_ need to do some experimentation on valve adjustment if you
choose this route; this testing must be done in a safe area (empty parking
lot, for example).  If you go the adjustable route, do not use a factory
proportioning valve.  Instead, use the drum brake distribution block and
plumb the adjustable proportioning valve in series in the line to the rear
brakes; it can be located on either side of the distribution block.

Distribution block location:  If you plan to run headers at any time,
locate the distribution block somewhere other than the stock location on
the frame rail.  If the car is an automatic, I've found the top of the
frame rail below the M/C to be a good location.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 20:48:36 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: 468 Olds Hemi???

Did Oldsmobile ever make a 468 big block...
________

Nope.  If you bore a 455 0.060" oversize, you'll get a 468.  I suspect that
someone did this and painted the hood accordingly.  Also, Olds never
released a hemi motor (other than the Quad 4) though the W-43 four-valve
hemi 455 experimental motor is well documented.  None of these parts were
ever available to the public.  I'm also not aware of any aftermarket hemi
heads for an Olds motor.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@rbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 21:48:45 EST
From: HCarn@aol.com
Subject: olds diesel

What trans was usually bolted to this in the 82 wagons?

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 22:50:03 EST
From: BradRoss79@aol.com
Subject: Rear Stabilizer Bar

Hello, and Merry Christmas to everybody!

	I have a 1979 Ninety-Eight Regency coupe and have been thinking about 
putting
a rear stabilizer bar on it. I have seen them on a few similar cars (LeSabres,
Caddys, and other cars of that vintage) and was wondering if they are easy to
put on or if any of you know where, or what cars I can get one from that would
fit my car.
I think my car would look really cool with a stabilizer bar on it, plus my
handling may be improved a little.  For those who are interested, My car has
57,000 miles on it, 350-2bbl and is Willow Green with White Landau top and
Green cloth interior.  I have added 2" dual exhausts with chrome tips and it
looks and sounds great!
	Thanks in advance for any and all of your information.
Brad.
1979 98 Regency
1971 Delta 88 Royale hardtop
1971 Delta 88 Custom Town Sedan
1959 Cadillac Hearse (boo!)

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 23:27:55 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: I'm going to throw this computer put the window.

I am so close to killing a Microsoft employee.  I've asked for assistance in
the past, but now i really need it.  Anyone who is using OUTLOOK 98,
PLEASE(!!!) email me.  Merry Christmas!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:18:04 EST
From: MMBJL@aol.com
Subject: Re: Holiday

and to all a good night					

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 01:57:28 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Stabilizer Bar

Brad,

Are you sure you have a 350 two barrel?  All factory Olds 350 gas engines in
'79 were equipped with Quadrajets.

Rear sway bar is easy to add on.  The best is the 24mm unit common on the
F-41 (handling package) or 9C1 (police option) Caprice.  This is also found
on various Buicks, Pontiacs and Cadillacs built between '77 and '96.
Measure your front bar.  If it is 26mm or greater, adding the rear bar is a
good idea.  If it is smaller than 26mm, upgrade the front bar as well.

Regards,
Fred
1977 Delta 88
1977 98 Regency
1978 Delta 88 Royale
1979 98 LS

PS -  Your '79 98 sounds like a nice car.  What is the color scheme and
option list?
- -----Original Message-----
From: BradRoss79@aol.com <BradRoss79@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 10:51 PM
Subject: Rear Stabilizer Bar


>Hello, and Merry Christmas to everybody!
>
> I have a 1979 Ninety-Eight Regency coupe and have been thinking about
putting
>a rear stabilizer bar on it. I have seen them on a few similar cars
(LeSabres,
>Caddys, and other cars of that vintage) and was wondering if they are easy
to
>put on or if any of you know where, or what cars I can get one from that
would
>fit my car.
>I think my car would look really cool with a stabilizer bar on it, plus my
>handling may be improved a little.  For those who are interested, My car
has
>57,000 miles on it, 350-2bbl and is Willow Green with White Landau top and
>Green cloth interior.  I have added 2" dual exhausts with chrome tips and
it
>looks and sounds great!
> Thanks in advance for any and all of your information.
>Brad.
>1979 98 Regency
>1971 Delta 88 Royale hardtop
>1971 Delta 88 Custom Town Sedan
>1959 Cadillac Hearse (boo!)
>

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:23:35 -0700
From: "Michael Maxwell" <michael@maxwell.cnchost.com>
Subject: Need 1972 442 W-29 paint stripe specs

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and also with two small stripes on either side of the medium thickness =
stripe. Also, I have pictures of '72 442's with no deck lid (trunk) =
striping, but the W-29 option does specify this.
The hood striping, I can probably duplicate from pictures, but a spec =
would be much better.

By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!

Any help would be much appreciated.=20

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 02:24:49 EST
From: CCRR12@aol.com
Subject: Another Case of Mistaken Identity

List,
Following the recent thread of the goober who asked if the car had a "442" in
it like his buddy had in his 'real 442'. I can relate!

A few weeks ago I pulled up to Auto Zone in my red 57 to pick up a few
supplies. As I pulled in front I couldn't help but notice the clerks and
customers looking out the window, a couple pointing at my car. As I collected
myself and prepared to get out (trying to be as cool as possible),  I saw one
guy preaching to the others and heading my way. I had just closed the door on
the car and this guy comes out of the store leading his band of listeners. He
was talking all the way. He started a circle around the car, talking how he
loved the car. Well, I am not about to get in his way, I am eating up the
attention. Continuing to talk loud enough for all of his friends to hear he
says:
	"I know everything about these cars, I am a BUICK nut, especially these
55's!"

What's a guy to do? I appreciate his interest and I don't want to embarrass
him. So I just let him look a little more and quietly slip it in that it is a
"57 Oldsmobile" and has only about 100 more horsepower than a 55' Buick.

But isn't this what driving our own style of car is all about? Don't you want
your car to be noticed? Not necessarily in arrogance, but just to be different
and have your own identity? 

I gladly accept all compliments, educated or not. Listen intently and thank
completely. Hopefully they will walk away saying, "That IS a nice car, and
those OLDS owners are regular guys."

"Everybody is ignorant, just on different subjects."  Will Rogers,1922

Randy in Oklahoma
57 88 J2

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 23:29:09 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Pinstripe Question

Any pinstripers out there? The question I have is if a pinstripe can be
fixed by sanding down the clear to get a rough finish (1500-2000 grit) and
then have a professional pinstriper take white paint and then touch up a
white line and then clear it over, wet sand and then buff? Will this work??



Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: 25 Dec 98 07:12:31 PST
From: Bruce Suess <restoman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Need 1972 442 W-29 paint stripe specs]

oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca wrote:

> --------------------------------------------- 
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> --------------------------------------------- I have a few pictures,
including the ones in the Motorsbooks International Oldsmobile Restoration
Guide, but no specs.
I have seen the body stripe detail with one small and one medium stripe and
also with two small stripes on either side of the medium thickness stripe.
Also, I have pictures of '72 442's with no deck lid (trunk) striping, but the
W-29 option does specify this.
The hood striping, I can probably duplicate from pictures, but a spec would be
much better.

By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!

Any help would be much appreciated. 

>Brothers Automotive sells Factory Blueprints
for stripes and they are very accurate

              merry x-mas

RESTOMAN

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 11:05:05 -0500
From: Gregg and Mary Ludlam <gmrocket@southport.net>
Subject: Happy Holidays

All,

Just a quick note to wish you and yours the very best of Holiday
Seasons.  May your stockings be filled with lots and lots of
Rocket-Power stuff!!!

Gregg
- -- 
Gregg and Mary Ludlam - Long Beach, NC
'67 Toronado Deluxe/'72 Cutlass S
See the Toro at http://www.442.com/ludlam.html
or at http://www.toronado.org/gregg.htm

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