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oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, November 15 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1603



JWO
Killer 442?
Re: Engine compartment fire (Ch*evy)
Re: JWO
HELP! Rear End Color? -- Still looking for the answer
Saturday repairs.
Olds build up!
Re: Saturday repairs.
HEI swap
Re: another question-batteries
list
Re: another question-
G-Body Mailing List Homepage
RE: Re-vamped Web Page
OAI vacuum motor
FS:  '57-'67 Olds Parts
Re: OAI vacuum motor
Fwd: Re: 68-75+ Olds Parts
Re: JWO address
replacing brake hose
How to score a Q-jet while Yarde-ing
Re: a goooddd day! (kinda long)
1972 455 Ga heads for $50, part II
Re: replacing brake hose
Re: another question
Parts and info needed
Re: replacing brake hose
Re: replacing brake hose
Re: Saturday repairs.
14x7 All Chrome SS1 Q
G-Body Mailing List Announcement.
Re: 14x7 All Chrome SS1 Q
Re: Olds build up!
1972 455 HP specks.
Ga VS J heads
RE: 1972 455 HP specks.
RE: Ga VS J heads
RE: Ga VS J heads
Re: Couple of Questions (different dude) (fuel?)
Re: Ga VS J heads
Valve job update! (fwd)
Re: 1972 455 HP specks.
Re: JWO
Re: another question
Re: FAQ
Re: 75, "The Deerslayer"

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:29:57 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: JWO

Would someone send me the e-mail address for the JWO?  Please don't tell me
to look in my JWO.  If I had gotten mine this month, I'd look it up in
there.  Thanks in advance.  Peter.

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:32:06 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: Killer 442?

My step dad keeps on telling me about a "killer 442" made in 65 66 or 67. It
had a 425 390hp engine, but i dont belive him, does anyone know about this?
thanks
Kelly

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:39:38 EST
From: KASOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Engine compartment fire (Ch*evy)

In a message dated 11/14/98 3:20:44 PM Central Standard Time,
PETTRIX@prodigy.net writes:

<< What was the cause of the fire and how hot did it get? Did the windshield
 crack or dash burn? >>

 There was no damage to anything behind the firewall.  However every thing in
the engine compartment is roasted.  We are not sure what caused the fire.  My
friend said he smelled gas right before he noticed a fire.  So we are thinking
that mabye a gas leak started it.  Would this fire have ruined all of the
engine seals? 

Thanks for all the advice people have given.

Keith 

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:58:54 -0600
From: Doug Newman <newmand@WCBI.com>
Subject: Re: JWO

Peter wrote:
	
	Would someone send me the e-mail address for the JWO?  Please
don't tell me to look in my JWO.  If I had gotten mine this month, I'd
look it up in there.  Thanks in advance.  Peter.


	Peter, try jwo@primary.net   I faxed OCA at (517) 663-1820, and
Marsha Nicholas emailed me and told me that she'd sent me a replacement
copy of JWO.  The issues being sent to members with the first-class mail
option accidentally got sent bulk-rate.  She told me this had been
corrected for next month.  

	Hope this helps,

	Doug Newman         OCA # 30311
	Columbus, MS         1987 442

	http://www.442.com/newman.html                1987 442
	http://www.442.com/newmantape.html          Centennial Tape Ad
	

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:57:13 -0600
From: Dan Williams <442much@plutonium.net>
Subject: HELP! Rear End Color? -- Still looking for the answer

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Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                     68 442 Convertible


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Do you have any ideas?  Nobody seems to know the answer.  The more I
look into this, I am inclined to think that the rear ends were natural
(including the sway bar).

- -Dan

- ----------
I have a question about the correct color of the rear end in my 68 442.
I always assumed it was Semi or Gloss black for the rear diff and
axles.  However, I have seen several painted natural.  I looked at an
article in MCR by Jeff Lilly (June/July 97), about detailing a 67 442
chassis, and the rear end is painted cast blast, with the axle housings
being bare steel.  The article also mentions Curt Anderson as a National

authority on 67 442s who aided in the resto.  According to How to
Restore Your Muscle Car it lists gloss black as the correct color for
the differential and Natural for the axles.  Both these sources are very

respected people in the field.  I still tend to think the entire section

should be Semi Gloss black.  Anybody know the answer?


- --
Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                     68 442 Convertible



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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:29:45 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Saturday repairs.

Today I swapped the edelbrock intake off my 350 in the 71 to put it on 
the 403 in 72.  The 72 has bet out of commision lately because of a 
severe engine noise on the pass side.  I noticed that a pushrod on the 
drivers side was lose so I looked under the valve cover and found that a 
rocker arm strap had broken and the rocker arm had losed up thus causing 
the noise.  I have owned 5 oldsmobiles and this is the first time I have 
ever had this problem. Has anyone else had this happen.  I guess it is 
just normal wear and tear but it struck me as odd.  Especially since the 
noise seemed to come from the pass side.



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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:39:05 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Olds build up!

Well I am about to rebuild the original 350 in the 71.  I am going to 
install the Performer RPM kit that I have on a 403 in my garage onto it.  
I have the complete RPM kit except for the heads. I also have a set of 
Harland Sharpe Roller Rockers.  I have a couple of questions.  The first 
has anyone used the rpm heads?  I was told by Edelbrock this summer that 
you could run it on a small block. I talked to Joe Mondello (yes he 
sometimes answers tech line questions himself)and he said that the heads 
on the 71 were good heads (I gave him the casting #'s)should I just use 
these or should I shell out the bucks for the rpm heads? Teh second 
question is what brand of pistons I should use. I need at least 9.5 to 1 
compression.  I am thinking of use forged TRW. Has anyone used these? 
Are there better one availible?
Thanks

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:52:49 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Saturday repairs.

In a message dated 11/14/98 4:32:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

<< I noticed that a pushrod on the 
 drivers side was lose so I looked under the valve cover and found that a 
 rocker arm strap had broken and the rocker arm had losed up thus causing 
 the noise.  >>

What are these called? Bridges? I have seen one on a 260 break. They are
cheap..I think 5 bucks for a rocker arm/bridge combo. Dorian

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:03:38 EST
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: HEI swap

today i did the normal HEI swap.  well, not so normal.  i replaced the
computer controlled HEI with a vacuum advance one.  the v'a dist came out of a
77 403.  does anyone know if the vacuum advance will cause pinging?  i haven't
driven the car yet.  if it does ping, does anyone recommend buying an
adjustable vacuum advance kit?

mikeytvb@aol.com
70 442 w/455

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:27:10 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: another question-batteries

Bob Blanchard wrote:

> It probably is a solenoid problem (luckily they are cheap).
> I also need a HUGE battery with the 403, a 875 CCA, they are not cheap :(

I always stuff the largest battery (CCAwise anyway) into the car that I
can find.  I have never found it hurts anything except my bank account
for a few extra dollars.  A few other things to check would include a
short in the wiring putting a slow drain on the system, battery with a
bad cell (yes even in new ones from time to time), and one time I even
had a bad connection in the glove compartment switch that left the
little light in it on 24/7.  Of course there is always the wiring splice
that has gone bad over a periof of time.  Could be a lot of other things
I can't think of right now.  Good luck in your search...

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:36:13 -0500 (EST)
From: OLDS72W30@webtv.net (Todd Thomas)
Subject: list

Sorry guys, but I have been away for a while, did anyone start a list
for g-body cars? If they did , what is the address?
thanks
Todd

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:40:11 -0500
From: "Poppy30" <Poppy30@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: another question-

Sounds like the battery is ng.Just because you charged it ,doesn,t mean it
took the charge.Try jumping the car.If it starts, test the charging
system.If charging system is good, replace the battery.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: another question-batteries


>Bob Blanchard wrote:
>
>> It probably is a solenoid problem (luckily they are cheap).
>> I also need a HUGE battery with the 403, a 875 CCA, they are not cheap :(
>
>I always stuff the largest battery (CCAwise anyway) into the car that I
>can find.  I have never found it hurts anything except my bank account
>for a few extra dollars.  A few other things to check would include a
>short in the wiring putting a slow drain on the system, battery with a
>bad cell (yes even in new ones from time to time), and one time I even
>had a bad connection in the glove compartment switch that left the
>little light in it on 24/7.  Of course there is always the wiring splice
>that has gone bad over a periof of time.  Could be a lot of other things
>I can't think of right now.  Good luck in your search...

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:41:47 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: G-Body Mailing List Homepage

> Sorry guys, but I have been away for a while, did anyone start a list
> for g-body cars? If they did , what is the address?

http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/ G-Body ListHome
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:05:29 -0500
From: Jason Adcock <jadcock@vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Re-vamped Web Page

On Saturday, November 14, 1998 3:13 PM, Matt Cremean [SMTP:creme1ma@cmich.edu] 
wrote:
> I just re-did my whole web page. If any are feeling brave, i'd
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/

In that light, mine's been re-done, too, if anyone'd like to take a look.  The 
Cutlass stuff is largely the same, but there's a new About Me section...and I 
finally got my resume online...just lots of visual clean-up of the site.

Thanks.

Jason K. Adcock
Blacksburg, VA
ICQ: 5860857
E-mail: jadcock@vt.edu
http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jadcock

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:11:23  -0600
From: Al Frey <alpha1@airmail.net>
Subject: OAI vacuum motor

Does anyone know where you can buy a vacuum motor for an OAI flapper door?
Mine has some how gotten a hole in the diaphram. At least the flapper is
wide open! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Al Frey e-mail me at:
Al Frey
alpha1@airmail.net

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:07:07 -0500
From: Jim or Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: FS:  '57-'67 Olds Parts

                                  C&M Classic Parts
                      1132 Chatmoss Drive, Virginia Beach, VA 23464
                            (757)474-0869, FAX (757)474-0694
                                <chermac@exis.net>
                                        OCA# 24275

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CLOSED Sunday
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                             OLDSMOBILE Restoration Parts

New arrival "Parts"
66 442 LH Fender (mint, no rust ever)  $300.00
66 Cutlass Post Coupe Rear Side Panels (black, rare w/woodgrain, nice)  $80.00
pr
66-67 Hardtop Doors (nice)  $125.00 pr
66-67 Post Coupe Doors (mint)  $150.00 pr
66 442/Cutlass Radiator Support (nice, blasted no rust)  $125.00
67 442/Cutlass Radiator Support (nice, blasted no rust)  $125.00
66-67 442 4 spd Chassis (rolling, very good cond)  $250.00
66-67 Vinyl top Moldings (mint)  $50.00 set
66 Rear Bumper Core  $55.00
66 442 W-30 Inner Ducts  $300.00 pr  
67 442 Hood (mint)   $475.00
67 442 Hood (rusty)  $85.00
64-67 4bbl A90CW (N.O.S.) Air Filters  $5.00 ea
66-67 442 Air Cleaner Pie Tin (nice) $12.00
64-72 Boxed Lower Control Arms (originals)  $150.00 pr
66 Ninety Eight (mint sheet metal and dash and trim) $500.00 for complete 
car or will part out.
66-67 Trunk Lid (very nice)  $75.00
66-67 Rear glass valance panel (mint)  $90.00
67 442 Grille Bar (orig., nice)  $45.00
66-67 Dash Pad (good, 1 tiny crack)  $85.00
66-67 Dash Insert  $35.00
66 Cutlass Dash Emblem (mint) $15.00 
66-67 Holiday 2 dr Quarter Panels (mint)  $500.00 pr
67 442 Grille (nice)  $75.00
67 Seats (front bench w/arm rest and rear, mint, black)  $350.00 
67 Hardtop door panels $50.00 pr
66-67 400 Intake Manifold  #390390  $60.00
67 442 Gauge Bezel (TH400 pattern)  $25.00
66-67 Dash Chrome Insert (nice, not perfect)  $80.00
64-65 4 Row Radiator Top Plate  $35.00
65-67 400 Pistons (std, used) $40.00 set of 8
65 442 Dash Emblem (mint, looks N.O.S.)  $60.00
53 (N.O.S.) 88/98 Hood Emblem (in box)  $125.00 
57 (N.O.S.) 88/98 Taillight Lens (1 only)  $35.00
57 (Repro) 88/98 Taillight Lens (2)  $40.00 pr
60 (N.O.S.) 88/98 RH Taillight assm. w/chrome  $145.00
66 (N.O.S.) Cutlass LH Taillight Lens (2)  $25.00 ea
67 (N.O.S.) Vista Cruiser RH Taillight Lens  $40.00
65-7? 3&4 spd Bellhousings $65.00 ea
64-69 4 Spd Console Top Plate (2 pieces, no boot, nice)  $125.00
64-66 Auto Console (black, w/wiring, nice)  $125.00
         
New Repro Parts:
64-67 Battery Tray (Repro)  $30.00
66 442 Tri-Carb Linkage Kit (complete) $78.00
67 442 Grille Bar (repro)  $96.00
67 Fender Eye Brow Moldings (LH/RH, repro)  $73.00 pr
66-67 442/Cutlass Drip Rail Moldings (NEW, repro) $78.00 set
67-70 Turn Signal Levers (repro)  $26.00 ea
67-70 Tilt Levers (repro)  $26.00 ea 

New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts 1964-1972 Olds/Cutlass/442
64-72 Clutch Inspection covers (N.O.S.)  $22.00 ea
67-75 TH400 Shifter Cable Bracket (N.O.S.)  $24.00
68-75+ TH350 Shifter Cable Bracket (N.O.S.)  $24.00
68-72+ TH Torque Converter Cover (Plastic, N.O.S.)  $36.00 ea
66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea

Used Parts:
64 Cutlass/442                       
(2) 64-65 2 Bar Spinners (N.O.S.)  $50.00 pr
64-65 Conv Rear Side Panels (mixed colors good cond)  $35.00 pr
64-65 330/400 Valve Covers (nice)  $25.00 pr
64-65 Cutlass/442 Conv Rear Side Glass (mint)  $80.00 pr
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $50.00
64-65 Spinner Hubcab (dual bar, single)  $35.00
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00                                                  
Front Bumper Core  $50.00                                                   
F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00 

65 Cutlass/442
65 400 442 4-Jet Carb (rebuilt)  $175.00
65 442 Grille (nice used)  $125.00
65 Cutlass Grille (good used)  $75.00
65 442 RH Fender (no rust, small ding)  $200.00
64-65 Conv Rear Side Panels (mixed colors good cond)  $35.00 pr
64-65 330/400 Valve Covers (nice)  $35.00 pr
64-65 Cutlass/442 Conv Rear Side Glass (mint)  $80.00 pr
65 442 Air Cleaner Top (no base)  $85.00 ea
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $50.00
65 Cutlass Dash Emblem (mint)  $35.00
64-65 Spinner Hubcab (dual bar, single)  $35.00
65 Cutlass 4 Door Rear Wheelwell Die cast pieces (front)  $20.00 pr
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  LH/RH rear $15.00 ea
64-65 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (mint)  $15.00

66 Cutlass/442
66 442 Grille (good bars, nice rocket )  $200.00
66-67 SSI Wheels (nice not perfect, 5)  $250.00 set
66-67 RH "W" Exhaust Manifold (mint)  $125.00
66 442 W-30 Bumper Ducts (2 sets, new doesn't include hoses)  $600.00 set
66-67 442 Air Cleaner (2)  $85.00 ea
64-66 Auto Floor Console (Red, missing front trim, nice top plate)  $50.00
66 442 Trunk Chrome Panels  $100.00 ea 
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Emblem $10.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Molding  $20.00
66 Spinner Hubcap (Tri bar, single)  $20.00
66 Floor Shift Steering Column Collars $10.00 ea
66-67 Clocks  $40.00 ea
66 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblem (very nice)  $20.00
66 F-85 Deluxe Dash Emblem (nice)  $15.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid Molding  $35.00
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $30.00
66 Cutlass Trunk Molding (very good)  $45.00
66 Cutlass Tail Light Bezels (very good)  $65.00 pr
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00 
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
66 Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea                                  

67 Cutlass/442
67 330 cu in engine (complete)  $200.00
67 8 Track Player (nice, works?)  $75.00
67 442 W-30 "C" Heads (VG code, drilled and plugged)  $400.00 pr
67 442 Hurst Shifter for console  $65.00
67 442 W-30 UHV system (complete w/ N.O.S coil and experimental distributor) 
 $550.00
67 442 W-30 Core Support (factory stamped, bent on LH side)  $145.00
67 Front Bumper Filler Panel (mint)  $40.00
67 442/Cutlass Radiator Support (nice)  $130.00
66-67 442 Air Cleaner (2)  $85.00 ea
67 Deluxe Full Wheel Covers $35.00 set
66-67 Clocks  $40.00 ea
67 Cutlass Dash Emblem (good)  $10.00
67 Cutlass Supreme Dash Emblems (2 very nice)  $20.00 ea
67 442/Cutlass Front Bumper Guards  $15.00 pr
67 Remote Mirror (good, not great)  $20.00
67 F-85 Steering Wheel Center (good chrome) $15.00
67 Cutlass Supreme/442 Steering Wheel Centers (mint)  $35.00 
67 Fender End Caps  $30.00 pr
67 4 spd Speedometer Adapter (3.42 gears & 4spd)  $45.00
67 Plain Cutlass Holiday Hardtop interior door panels and rear sides (very
nice, blue/green) $85.00 set of 4
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $50.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $90.00 ea
67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $135.00

Big Car Parts:
66-67 Toronado Rear Bumper (very nice)  $100.00
66 Toro Batman Steering Wheel, Tilt/Tele column (black, very nice)  $145.00
62 Super 88 Tail Panel Chrome  (good)  $25.00
62 Super 88 Grille (good)  $50.00
62 Big Car (88, 98, Starfire) Front Bumper (straight, very good)  $95.00 

New reproduction parts:
Convertible Top Boots (Correct Grains for each different year)  $89.00ea
64  Black, Red, Lt. Blue, Fawn, Saddle, Turqoise, White
65  Same as 64  
66-67 Black, Red, Light Blue, Med. Blue, Bronze, Turqoise, White, Gold
68-72 Black, Red, Parchment, Lt. Blue, Teal Blue, Green Gold, Gold, Pearl,
Dk Blue, Dk. Green, Lt. Green, Lt. Saddle, Dk Saddle, Olive Green, Royal
Blue, White, Sandalwood, 

Molded Carpet Sets  $95.00 
64-67 - (Black, Red, Med. Blue, Turquoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Maroon)
68-72 - (Black, Red, Maroon, Turqoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Med. Blue, Dk. Green,
Green Gold, Lt. Green, Teal Blue, Saddle, Sandalwood)
73-77 - (Same as 68-72 except Green Gold)

Door Panels  64-72  $265.00 for a set of all 4

Seat Covers  64-72  $335.00 front and rear sets any year or color.

Vinyl Dash Overlays (makes your wood dash areas look like carbon fiber)
$50.00 set 

Lifetime Guarantee on all correct bead window felts  $92.00 set (inner & outer)
66-67 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (correct bead type) 
68-72 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (not Supreme Coupes, correct bead) 
68-72 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv (Outers only, correct bead)  $50.00

Replacement Window Felts (Flat type)  $60.00 set (inner & outer)
64-72 Cutlass/442 (state year and model)

Glove Box Liners
64-67 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
68-69 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
70-72 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99

Qrt Seals
70-72 Cutlass Supreme & Conv Qtr End seals  $13.00 pr

Hood Insulation
64-65 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
66 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
67 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
68-70 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner (wclips)  $18.00
70-72 Cutlass Supreme Hood Liner (w/clips)  $18.00
73-77 Cutlass $28.00

Liner Clips
Round Clips  $1.00 ea
Square Clips  $1.00 ea

A-Arm Shields
68-72 Upper A-Arm dust shields  $14.99 pr

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:17:11 -0500
From: Jim or Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: OAI vacuum motor

Al

        Greg at SuperCars Unlimited has them. 

Jim Chermack

At 09:11 PM 11/14/98 , you wrote:
>
>Does anyone know where you can buy a vacuum motor for an OAI flapper door?
>Mine has some how gotten a hole in the diaphram. At least the flapper is
>wide open! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Al Frey e-mail me at:
>Al Frey
>alpha1@airmail.net

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:27:41 -0500
From: Jim or Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Fwd: Re: 68-75+ Olds Parts

>
>>
>>>
>>>                                           C&M Classic Parts
>>>                        1132 Chatmoss Drive, Virginia Beach, VA 23464
>>>                                 (757)474-0869, FAX (757)474-0694
>>>                                         
>>> <<mailto:chermac@exis.net>chermac@exis.net>
>>>                                                OCA# 24275
>>>
>>> Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm,  Sat 9:00 am - 3:00 pm,  Sunday Closed
>>> *We accept all major Credit Cards. VISA, M/C, Amer. Express, and Discover.*
>>>
>>>
>>>                                          OLDS Restoration Parts
>>>  
>>> New arrival "Parts"
>>> 70 W-30 Intake (Early w/ Oldsmobile W-455) date code 11/13/69  $575.00
>>> 69 Cutlass Supreme 2 Door Hardtop (straight mint Calif. body, no rust, 350
>>> 4 bbl, tilt, A/C, 83,000 miles) $1800.00 or will part-out.
>>> 64-72 Boxed Lower Control Arms  (originals) $150.00 pr
>>> 68 LH Post Coupe Door (very nice)  $65.00
>>> 69 442/Cutlass Hardtop Doors (mint)  $150.00 pr
>>> TH350 W/shift kit  $125.00
>>> 12 Bolt "O" Type Anti-Spin Rear 2.78:1 ratio (Drum to Drum)  $275.00
>>> 68-72 4 spd Trans Tunnel Adapter Plate  $25.00
>>> 70-72 Chrome Side Marker Lights (good cond)  $60.00 set
>>> 71-72 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $45.00
>>> 70-72 Heater Control Panel (nice)  $35.00
>>> 68-75+ Auto Trans Flex Plates  $35.00
>>> 68 Hood Hinges  $50.00 pr
>>> 70 OAI Hood (nice, 2 small stress cracks)  $750.00 
>>> 70-72 SSI Wheels (4) $200.00 set
>>> 70-73 SSII/III Wheels (5)  $250.00 set
>>> 70-73 SSII Wheels (4, off 72 H/O with orig paint.) $200.00 set
>>> 70-75 Sport Steering Wheel (mint wheel lots of grain, black, with hub and
>>> center)  $225.00
>>> 83-84 Hurst Olds Lightning Rod shifter assm (no cable, nice)  $280.00
>>> 307-403 Edelbrock Performer Intake (nice)  $100.00
>>> 69-72 Seat Backs & Lower Sides (nice orig, black or tan)  $80.00 set
>>>  
>>> New Repro Parts:
>>> 70-72 Dash Chrome Bead (new)  $58.00 ea
>>> 67-70 Turn Signal Levers (repro)  $26.00 ea
>>> 67-70 Tilt Levers (repro)  $26.00 ea 
>>> 67-75 TH400 Shifter Cable Bracket (Repro)  $28.00
>>> 68-72 License Plate Bracket (Repro)  $26.50
>>> 68-70 W-31 Cam Kits (w/lifters & lube)  $132.00
>>> 68-72 1/4 Glass Chrome Moldings (Repro)  $92.00 pr
>>> 69-72 Rear Spoiler (3 piece repro)  $255.00
>>> 70-72 Hood Pin Kits (NEW, original supplier, complete) $115.00
>>> 71or72 442 Grille Numeral Sets (repro, either year)  $34.00 set
>>> 71-72 442 Hood Emblem (repro, Non OAI) $20.00
>>>  
>>> New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts 1964-1972 Olds/Cutlass/442
>>> 68 (N.O.S.) Cutlass/442 Turn Signal Lens (front, 2 prs)  $35.00 pr
>>> 72 (N.O.S.) Cutlass Supreme, H/O LH grille $50.00
>>> 68-72 W-30 Stick Cam .475 lift/ 328 dur. (N.O.S. in box)  $275.00
>>> 68-72+ TH Torque Converter Cover (Plastic, N.O.S.)  $36.00 ea
>>> 66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
>>> 68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
>>> 68-7? Under Hood Light kits (N.O.S.)  $40.00 ea
>>> 69-72 442 Trunk Numeral Sets (N.O.S.) $50.00 set
>>> 69-70 442 Hood Numeral Sets  (N.O.S.) $50.00 set
>>> 69-72 442 Fender Numeral Sets (N.O.S.) $38.00 set
>>> 70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
>>> 70-72 Hurst Dual Gate Shifter Cable (N.O.S.)  $55.00
>>> 70-72 OAI Air Cleaner Springs (N.O.S)  $5.00 ea
>>> 71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr  
>>> 71-72 Front Grille Plastics (N.O.S)  $35.00 ea                        
>>> 72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
>>> 73-75 (N.O.S.) Cutlass "S", 442,  H/O RH Qtr Panel  $350.00
>>> 75-77 (N.O.S.) Cutlass Supreme Header Panel  $150.00
>>> 73-77 Cutlass/442/Hurst Wiper Switch (N.O.S.)  $22.00
>>>  
>>> USED PARTS:
>>> 68 Cutlass/442
>>> 68 8 Track Player (needs work, nice unit, housing broken)  $45.00
>>> 68 Front Bumper (nice w 2 small dings)  $125.00
>>> 68 442 Rear Bumper (very nice) $250.00
>>> 68 442 Air Cleaner Heat tube assm (2 pieces)  $30.00
>>> 68-69 442 Glove Box Door (black)  $18.00
>>> 68-69 442/W-30 400 Intake Manifold  $50.00
>>> 68 Cutlass/442 Backup Lens (nice)  $22.00 pr
>>> 68 Trunk Vinyl Top Molding & Plate  $25.00
>>> 68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
>>> 68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $75.00
>>> 68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00              
>>> Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set                               
>>> 68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00                     
>>> 68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $25.00
>>> ea                                            
>>> 68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea                                
>>> 68-72 B-Pillar Molding Sets (black, mint) $27.50 pr 
>>>
>>> 69 Cutlass/442
>>> 69 Cutlass, H/O, 442 Dash Woodgrain (mint orig, minus ash tray)  $30.00 
>>> 69 Cutlass/442 Conv trunk lid (mint)  $150.00
>>> 68-69 442 Glove Box Door (black)  $18.00
>>> 69 Front Bumper (no pits, bent from tow truck)  $85.00
>>> 69 Hood Tongue $20.00
>>> 68-69 442/W-30 400 Intake Manifold  $50.00
>>> 69 Turn Signal Lens (nice)  $25.00 pr
>>> 69 Front Grille Center Filler (between grilles)  $8.00
>>> 69 Full Hubcaps (nice)  $35.00 set
>>> 68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
>>> 69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
>>> 69-72 Hood Hinges  $40.00 pr
>>> 69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $25.00 pr
>>> 69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $25.00 pr
>>> 68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $45.00 set                                 
>>> 69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
>>> 69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $55.00 ea
>>> 69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $25.00 ea
>>>
>>> 70 Cutlass/442
>>> 70-72 Floor Console (regular auto, black, complete)  $100.00
>>> 70 442/SX Cutout Rear Bumper (nice rechrome, not perfect)  $275.00
>>> 70 Hood Tongue $40.00
>>> 70 Front Bumper (core)  $85.00
>>> 70 Fender Eybrows (nice, no pits)  $45.00 pr
>>> 70 RH Rally 350 grille (repaired, nice)  $75.00
>>> 70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
>>> 70 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr
>>> 70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $100.00
>>> 70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
>>> 70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea             
>>> 70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00                                    
>>> 69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00                                
>>> 70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr         
>>> 70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $70.00                                  
>>> 70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
>>> 70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens (restored)  $17.00 ea
>>> 70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens (restored) $23.00 ea
>>>
>>> 71 Cutlass/442
>>> 70-72 Floor Console (regular auto, black, complete)  $100.00
>>> 70-71 Cutlass Supreme Side Marker Lights (mint)  $60.00 set
>>> 71 Cutlass "S" Grilles (nice used)  $100.00 pr
>>> 71 LH Cutlass Supreme Grille (nice)  $85.00
>>> 70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $30.00 pr
>>> 71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
>>> 71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
>>> 70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea 
>>> 71 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr
>>>
>>> 72 Cutlass/442
>>> 70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $30.00 pr
>>> 70-72 Floor Console (regular auto, black, complete)  $100.00
>>> 71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
>>> 72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00                                  
>>> 72 Headlight Bezels (restored) $50.00 pr            
>>> 72 Tail Light Lens  $13.00 ea
>>>
>>> 73 and Newer and Big Car Parts:
>>> Late 73-74 Olds HEI distributors (non cumputer, w/cap and coil)  $45.00 ea
>>> 73-75 442 Console and Shifter (Maroon)  $90.00
>>> 73-77 Omega Floor Shift Tilt  $65.00
>>> 75 Omega Front Fenders (very nice pair)  $180.00 pr
>>> 75 Omega Bucket Seats (nice, maroon cloth)  $85.00 pr
>>> 72 Delta 88 Qtr End caps  $25.00 pr
>>> 72 Delta 88/ Ninety Eight Owners Manual (nice) $5.00
>>>  
>>> New reproduction parts:
>>> Convertible Top Boots (Correct Grains for each different year)  $89.00ea
>>> 64  Black, Red, Lt. Blue, Fawn, Saddle, Turqoise, White
>>> 65  Same as 64  
>>> 66-67 Black, Red, Light Blue, Med. Blue, Bronze, Turqoise, White, Gold
>>> 68-72 Black, Red, Parchment, Lt. Blue, Teal Blue, Green Gold, Gold, Pearl,
>>> Dk Blue, Dk. Green, Lt. Green, Lt. Saddle, Dk Saddle, Olive Green, Royal
>>> Blue, White, Sandalwood, 
>>>
>>> Molded Carpet Sets  $95.00 
>>> 64-67 - (Black, Red, Med. Blue, Turquoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Maroon)
>>> 68-72 - (Black, Red, Maroon, Turqoise, Gold, Dk. Blue, Med. Blue, Dk.
>>> Green,
>>> Green Gold, Lt. Green, Teal Blue, Saddle, Sandalwood)
>>> 73-77 - (Same as 68-72 except Green Gold)
>>>
>>> Door Panels  64-72  $265.00 for a set of all 4
>>>
>>> Seat Covers  64-72  $335.00 front and rear sets any year or color.
>>>
>>> Vinyl Dash Overlays (makes your wood dash areas look like carbon fiber)
>>> $50.00 set 
>>>
>>> Lifetime Guarantee on all correct bead window felts  $92.00 set (inner &
>>> outer)
>>> 66-67 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (correct bead type) 
>>> 68-72 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv Window Felts (not Supreme Coupes, correct bead) 
>>> 68-72 2 Dr Hardtop/Conv (Outers only, correct bead)  $50.00
>>>
>>> Replacement Window Felts (Flat type)  $60.00 set (inner & outer)
>>> 64-72 Cutlass/442 (state year and model)
>>>
>>> Glove Box Liners
>>> 64-67 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
>>> 68-69 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
>>> 70-72 Glovebox Liner w/clips  $15.99
>>>
>>> Qrt Seals
>>> 70-72 Cutlass Supreme & Conv Qtr End seals  $13.00 pr
>>>
>>> Hood Insulation
>>> 64-65 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
>>> 66 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
>>> 67 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner  (w/clips)  $18.00
>>> 68-70 Cutlass/442 Hood Liner (wclips)  $18.00
>>> 70-72 Cutlass Supreme Hood Liner (w/clips)  $18.00
>>> 73-77 Cutlass $28.00
>>>
>>> Liner Clips
>>> Round Clips  $1.00 ea
>>> Square Clips  $1.00 ea
>>>
>>> A-Arm Shields
>>> 68-72 Upper A-Arm dust shields  $14.99 pr
>>
>

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:18:56 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: JWO address

 peter   jwo address
 jwo@primary.net

good meeting...how did John's car turn out???

hope he liked it...

the car (ford Taurus) will be there mon..Tim the wrecker driver will give you
the
key please keep it for me...thanks again 

Jeff...

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:20:03 -0800
From: "Steve Elijah" <selijah@eznet.com>
Subject: replacing brake hose

Passenger side front brake hose where it meets the metal brake line under
the fender is Rusted Frozen! I could probably unhook the brake hose clip
from the frame but I dont know where that would get me.

I have applied liquid wrench to no avail.  Any other idea for getting that
upper connection loose?  Any special tools or methods I might try? Is it
time for the vice grips and muscle?

72 Vista-Cruiser

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:21:12 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: How to score a Q-jet while Yarde-ing

In a message dated 98-11-14 18:12:29 EST, you write:

<<  I'm just wondering if most Oldses or GM's are likely to have them.  We'll
be
 going to Harry's U-Pull-it, the coolest place around! >>

Going to a Qjet.

There are actually two topics there, adapting a Qjet for use on the vehicle
and finding an appropriate Qjet.

But you asked the latter so the former goes in a separate post.

Rochester carburetors do have a good reputation.
The Quadrajet was in fact very advanced for its time.

However, Karl has found that the Qjet was available mostly as a performance
option on most 65-72 cars.
"Performance" cars (4 4 2, Toronado, 98) came with them stock.

Karl says that because he was looking for a 1969-72 Qjet today.

Never saw so many 2 barrel carbs before.

No experience with the other GM makes, but Caddy's may have used them more
often than B-O-P cars.

Best bet is the 98 model or mebbe a Delta for those years.
Do not know about the 73- on Models.

Usually a Q-jet on Toronados, but the divorced choke may be as a problem as
the choke rod may be too short for use with any other application.

Hope you find a nice one!

SOM
&KA

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:20:37 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: a goooddd day! (kinda long)

everett.. how much longer will you have this e mail address


jeff...

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:45:32 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: 1972 455 Ga heads for $50, part II

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So I pulled out the 455.  I got it, the alternator and a newer starter =
for $65 Canadian.  Not bad.  The 455 is complete and looks like an =
original.  The valvecovers leaked bad and gunked-up the motor, but the =
gaskets were changed.  The odometer on the old huge 98 said 57,000 =
miles, I assume 157,000.  As long as the 455 in not cracked anywhere and =
never rebuilt, it should make for a good core.  I have 30 days to return =
it if anything bad.  When I get my 307 disassembled and off the stand, I =
will put the 455 on and take a look.  May even get away with just a =
re-ring.  I think was a good deal, took 1 hour to pull out and another =
one to put in my old van.  Igor.



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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:53:50 -0500
From: "Poppy30" <Poppy30@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose

Use a good line wrench & heat fitting with torch.When fitting starts to
glow, work it back and forth while watching that line is not twisting.When
fitting is moving without line twisting,work it while spraying with alittle
lube.BE CAREFUL NOT TO START A FIRE AS MOST SPRAYS ARE FLAMABLE!KEEP
SOMETHING HANDY TO EXTINGUISH FLAMES.Other option is to replace the line
also.
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From: Steve Elijah <selijah@eznet.com>
To: olds list <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 10:25 PM
Subject: replacing brake hose


>Passenger side front brake hose where it meets the metal brake line under
>the fender is Rusted Frozen! I could probably unhook the brake hose clip
>from the frame but I dont know where that would get me.
>
>I have applied liquid wrench to no avail.  Any other idea for getting that
>upper connection loose?  Any special tools or methods I might try? Is it
>time for the vice grips and muscle?
>
>72 Vista-Cruiser
>

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:59:15 -0700
From: Ben <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: another question

Okay, sounds like (from my many experiences) the solenoid. In my 62 F-85 and 
my 68 442,
When this happens pull the starter and remove the solenoid. The cheapest and 
quickest
fix is to pull the ceramic cover off the solenoid and there is a copper 
contact disk.
Press it down and remove the C-clip. Turn the disk over (making sure it's 
clean and not
heavily pitted) and replace C-clip. Reassemble and you should be back on the 
road. If
this doesn't fix it, then check the cranking amps of the battery and the guage 
of the
cable. I have the 400 in my 68 and with about 10.5:1 I need THICK cables, a 
massive
battery and a good contact on that disk (gets pitted really quickly after a 
summer of
120+ degree weather in AZ) Otherwise buy a rebuild kit or a replacement 
solenoid and
just switch them out. I'd keep the old one for that disk in the future may 
come in
handy...

Ben

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 23:06:00 -0500
From: "Arnold, W D" <w.d.arnold@lmco.com>
Subject: Parts and info needed

Hello Folks,
I am new to the list so be kind to me this is my first time....
I have a  '72 442 and I need some STUFF...

3.90,4.11,4.33 (8.5)gears or complete limited slip rear end.

3000-3500 stall converter

info on filling exhaust heat risers.

Thank you and have a good evening,
Donny in Dallas,GA
72 442 (13.242et going for 11.99et)

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:06:11 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose

>I have applied liquid wrench to no avail.  Any other idea for getting that
>upper connection loose?  Any special tools or methods I might try? Is it
>time for the vice grips and muscle?
>
>72 Vista-Cruiser

It's time for flare wrenches and muscle.
Sometimes when they are that rusted no matter what tool you 
use you will twist the steel line and have to replace it.

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:07:28 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: replacing brake hose

At 10:53 PM 11/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Use a good line wrench & heat fitting with torch.When fitting starts to
>glow, work it back and forth while watching that line is not twisting.When
>fitting is moving without line twisting,work it while spraying with alittle
>lube.BE CAREFUL NOT TO START A FIRE AS MOST SPRAYS ARE FLAMABLE!KEEP
>SOMETHING HANDY TO EXTINGUISH FLAMES.Other option is to replace the line
>also.

just remember that brake fluid is flammable also.

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:08:55 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Saturday repairs.

>What are these called? Bridges? I have seen one on a 260 break.

Pivots.

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 23:15:43 EST
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: 14x7 All Chrome SS1 Q

this is just purely for my knowledge so......... what exactly could you get
the 14x7 all chrome ss1 on? i have heard that they were only available on 71
sx's.....is this true? or could it be ordered on other modles???

thanks

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible (being made road worthy)
see it at: http://members.aol.com/theblue67/main.html

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:36:04 -0600
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: G-Body Mailing List Announcement.

Hey everyone...

Just wanted to keep everyone informed on the progress of the Olds G-body
mailing list.

As most of you know some of us started the list just 34 days ago. Today, I'm
pleased to announce that we have our 100th subscriber.

We just wanted to say thanks to both lists for the support.

We'd also like to invite any new members of the Classic list to join up if
you have any interest in G-body specific questions. (even if you don't) ;-)

If you're interested stop by http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

Thanks!

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:15:40 EST
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: 14x7 All Chrome SS1 Q

Brent,
The all chrome SS1's were only available in 71 and could be ordered on any
style    A-body.
Dennis 

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:24:57 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds build up!

Jason,

Here's my take on some points you brought up.

1) Using the Edelbrock heads will leave you with lower compression numbers due
to the larger combustion chamber size on them.  However, with the TRW W-31
replica pistons you might wind up with something near the 9 to 1 you're
looking for.  I haven't done the math on this possibility yet, so I'm not
sure.  I know when I get a set for my SCCA race car (350 powered) we'll be
going with some custom pistons from Dave Smith Engineering, since the rules we
will be running under concerning compression ratio are fairly open.

2) As for the TRW pistons, I use them in my NASCAR Shortrack Series engines.
We have a 11 to 1 ratio limit, and with a slight mill on the heads and some
Dave Smith head gaskets we should be as close as we dare.  You just have to be
careful that you don't wind up with too much compression for street driving,
if that's what you're interested in.  If not, have at it!

Hope these help you out.  Take Care!
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
ks7racing@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:00:13 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: 1972 455 HP specks.

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:11:50 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Ga VS J heads

How much if any are the Ga heads better then Js.  I just got a '72 455 with
the Ga heads, and wonder how much better these are then the Js.  Thanks a
lot.

Igor Todorovic

1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:17:38 -0500
From: "Arnold, W D" <w.d.arnold@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: 1972 455 HP specks.

hey Igor,
The stock motor in a 1972 88  has a net HP of 225 with the small valve heads
and a net HP of 270 with the big valves.  I know there was only a slight, if
any, difference in the cam. The carb was calibrated slightly higher ( a
little more CFM) for the 2.07 valve heads.
It's probably safe to assume the lesser of the 2 but, I wouldn't worry about
stock ratings make it like you want it.
Go ahead and spend a little on a cam that you can hear( you will love it ),
and pick up some good heads ( B or C ).
I agree with you on saving money on the bottom end by hoping for just a
re-ring.

DON'T even think about the J heads... (You're gonna make me puke...)
  
Later days,
Donny 

> ----------
> From: 	Igor T. '81 DRB 455[SMTP:igor455@home.com]
> Reply To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: 	Sunday, November 15, 1998 2:00 AM
> To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 	1972 455 HP specks.
> 
> I don't believe that no one knows what the HP/torque output was for a '72
> 455 in the 98 Regency.  Ga heads, non-EGR.  What about cam specks. 
> Thanks.
> 

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:26:27 -0500
From: "Arnold, W D" <w.d.arnold@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: Ga VS J heads

The horsepower ratings dropped about 20-30 net HP from the Ga to the J heads
and that was the basic change from 72 to 73.
In gross HP ( the way most folks like to think >> cause it's a bigger
number..hee hee) that's more-or-less 32-45 HP difference.

I'd say please don't start backing up and consider using the J heads.
Try to find some B or C's and use you're Ga's as a trade in core.

I can buy a SET of C's here in Jawjuh already machine and ready to bolt on ,
except for a little bit of pocket porting, for $120 with NO exchange.

I'll get you a pair if you can't find them for that where you are.....

Hope this helps.
Donny A.  

> ----------
> From: 	Igor T. '81 DRB 455[SMTP:igor455@home.com]
> Reply To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: 	Sunday, November 15, 1998 2:11 AM
> To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 	Ga VS J heads
> 
> How much if any are the Ga heads better then Js.  I just got a '72 455
> with
> the Ga heads, and wonder how much better these are then the Js.  Thanks a
> lot.
> 
> Igor Todorovic
> 
> 1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)
> 

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:50:52 -0500
From: "Arnold, W D" <w.d.arnold@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: Ga VS J heads

Hey Igor,
I just checked my books about the cam specs on your motor and I don't have
them listed.
Maybe Bryce has them somewhere in his stuff.

After reading what I sent to you a few minutes ago, it almost sounded like I
was trying to 'flame' you.  I did not mean to sound so harsh. Please bring
it to my attention if I sound like I'm flaming any of you. 
Now, on to the good stuff..

As far as the heads go, out of the box they are gonna flow within 5% of each
other with the stock cam and carb(According to Joe M and 442.com).  The
potential of the heads get increasingly better with earlier year heads.  So,
the Ga's are probably a bit better than the J's and the F's are a bit better
than the G's and so on. If this is what you want to use, they will prob.
work fine for a street motor.  Joe Mondello has said that the best heads to
use for a 455 are the 'B' or 'C'
  

I had to learn this the hard way on a motor I built a few years back and
just don't want to see others make the same mistake that I did.

Hoping we can help each other, 
Donny A

> ----------
> From: 	Igor T. '81 DRB 455[SMTP:igor455@home.com]
> Reply To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: 	Sunday, November 15, 1998 2:11 AM
> To: 	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 	Ga VS J heads
> 
> How much if any are the Ga heads better then Js.  I just got a '72 455
> with
> the Ga heads, and wonder how much better these are then the Js.  Thanks a
> lot.
> 
> Igor Todorovic
> 
> 1981 Delta 88 4dr (455/th400/3.23s)
> 

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:47:52 EST
From: CCRR12@aol.com
Subject: Re: Couple of Questions (different dude) (fuel?)

Erik,

You might check your float level in the carb. Regulator should be set at 5-7
lbs.

Randy in Okla
57 88 J2

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:25:51 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Ga VS J heads

>I had to learn this the hard way on a motor I built a few years back and
>just don't want to see others make the same mistake that I did.


What do you mean you made a mistake.  Did you change heads and notice a big
difference.  I just installed my fresh, full rebuild 455, 9.5CR, mild cam (a
little to small) in my '81 Delta.  It came out of a '76 and has J heads on
it.  I could not find any better heads, and even these Ga heads were
anything other then Js I could get.  The car still has stock EGR intake
(although a non-EGR and non-emissions carb, EGR not hooked up).  I just got
a intake from '70 442 that I will install on my motor.  It has stock exhaust
manifolds, with dual 2.5" pipes, balancer tube, Dynomax mufflers and 2.25"
tailpipes.  I only ported the exhaust side on the Js (which really opened up
that chamber).  The car has TH400, 12-inch converter and 3.23 posi.  It
HAULS ASS.  For a big Delta 88, sub 7 sec. 0-60 traction limited time is
pretty good.  The tires are 255/60/15s.  Even so there is almost no traction
in first gear.  The motor is strong, despite the Js.  If you take the same
motor as it was in the '76 Delta and the way it is now, it must feel twice
as strong.  My car is over 4000 lb..  This "new" Ga head 455 I got I plan to
slowly rebuild.  Probably much the same way as I did my current one, new
pistons, grind crank, etc., unless I don't have to.  I will try to take a
bit more time to do this one and maybe spend a bit more money to make it
better.  If I find some better heads, I will get them.  If I could only run
headers on my car, that would be great.  What kind of cam do you run.

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 07:55:01 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Valve job update! (fwd)

From Sparky Kalkoff...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Greg Kalkhoff <gkalkhof@mail.execpc.com>
Subject: Valve job update!

All you 425 shortblock (B head) folk,

I have updated my trials and tribulations re: my valve job on the '66
Dubonette. 

Mind you, folks who have been there may not be too impressed. But,
regardless, I think it's pretty cool! I tried to document this as much as
possible during a very intense situation (as in, WHAT a BUMMER!).  LOL! 

For ME, at least, this was pushing the envelope of the learning curve!  (:
MANY, MANY thanks to ALL who helped and supported me throughout this
ordeal. 

Meanwhile, please bookmark/favorite place/flag this URL, for it is not
linked to the FAQ as of yet. (I'm working on a mega FAQ on this) 

Check it out at: http://www.toronado.org/valve.htm 

All feedback and banter is ALWAYS good fodder! 

Beyond the stuck rings on #7, I feel this was advanced work of wrenching
for a rookie!. (IMHO) (; I'll save the stuck rings for another time. 


Sparky

- -- 
Greg "Sparky" Kalkhoff                      See the Sparkmobile
Toronado Chapter Webmaster             http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
Toronado FAQ Page Administrator
http://www.Toronado.org

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 07:06:40 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1972 455 HP specks.

In a message dated 11/14/98 11:02:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,
igor455@home.com writes:

<< I don't believe that no one knows what the HP/torque output was for a '72
455 in the 98 Regency.  Ga heads, non-EGR.  What about cam specks.  Thanks.
  >>

 It was=225/360, 250/375 (Dual Exhaust), or 260/380, depending on what, I
don't know. (although the first set was at lower RPM than the other two) Out
of Chiltons '69-76 repair manual. No idea on the cam specs. Dorian

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:13:28 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: JWO

Doug, thanks very much.  I look forward to my JWO every month.  When it
doesn't come, I become petulant.  Then my wife throws me out of the house.
I have to resort to a life of crime and scavenging from dumpsters for
sustenence.  The the cops come, and time behind bars ensues.  My family
loses their home, and they're hurled out on to the streets, where disease
and abuse overcome them.  They in turn must become wards of the state and
welfare sucking parasites.  Everyone's taxes go up and nation-wide
bankruptcies skyrocket, plunging the planet into the next Great Depression.
Best, I feel, that I just get my JWO on time.  Peter.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Doug Newman <newmand@wcbi.com>
To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: JWO


>Peter wrote:
>
> Would someone send me the e-mail address for the JWO?  Please
>don't tell me to look in my JWO.  If I had gotten mine this month, I'd
>look it up in there.  Thanks in advance.  Peter.
>
>
> Peter, try jwo@primary.net   I faxed OCA at (517) 663-1820, and
>Marsha Nicholas emailed me and told me that she'd sent me a replacement
>copy of JWO.  The issues being sent to members with the first-class mail
>option accidentally got sent bulk-rate.  She told me this had been
>corrected for next month.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Doug Newman         OCA # 30311
> Columbus, MS         1987 442
>
> http://www.442.com/newman.html                1987 442
> http://www.442.com/newmantape.html          Centennial Tape Ad
>

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:47:09 -0500
From: "Chris Brown" <Elric@dclink.com>
Subject: Re: another question

I would say more than likely you need a new solenoid.  At the most MAYBE a
whole new starter, but it sounds like a defective solenoid.

>
>Thanks for the help with the last few little questions, here's one more. I
can't
>get my car to start anymore, when you turn the ignition, the car clicks
every 2
>or 3 seconds, doesn't turn over and dims every light in the car to almost
non-
>existant. The other day, I cleaned the posts and terminals and charged the
>battery all up, so that seems to be fine, and I turned the ignition and
this time it
>just about turned all the way over but didn't quite make it. I read the
post reply
>from David Booker about a problem which sounded similar to mine except I
>don't seem to be getting any smoke coming from under the hood...any
>suggestions?
>
>Spruce
>----------------------------------------------------
>If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 1206779
>If you don't have ICQ you can page me through:
>* My Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1206779 (go there and
try it!)
>* Or you can send me e-mail to 1206779@pager.mirabilis.com
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:50:45 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: FAQ

Would you happen to be Elric of Melnibone?

Chris Brown wrote:
> 
> I just need to get this out, becasue alot of people have asked quite a few
> questions, and the only answer they get is to look at the FAQ.  Well, there
> is somewhat of a problem with that, as there are quite a few people who do
> not have full net access, but DO have email, and just use that.  So, telling
> people to use the FAQ will work for alot, but not all of the people who may
> or may not be on the list.
> 
> Chris Brown
> 72 Cutlass Supreme

- -- 
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
OCA# 30442

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:54:44 -0500
From: "Jim & Sharon Brady" <bradyiii@shore.intercom.net>
Subject: Re: 75, "The Deerslayer"

Lou,
    This the first I have heard of you hitting a deer.  What kind of '75 do
you have.  I hit a deer with my '73 Delta in April or May.  I only had the
car for a month or two and had just painted it.  Deer comes out of nowhere
and wham!  Deer was dead, my single repair was fixed with SuperGlue.
Details are on my Website.  This is the second Deer I have killed with an
Oldsmobile!  The first Deer I killed(with a car) was with my Dads '77
Cutlass S in 1987.  Again very little damage to that car, just busted a high
beam light.  That's two bagged Deer with Olds and five with a rifle.  Who
needs to get up at 5am and go freeze my duff off when I can simply cruise
the backroads!  Please fill me in on what happened.  If the list has already
heard this story send it to me privately.

Jim Brady
1973 Olds Delta88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/JimDelta.html
bradyiii@shore.intercom.net

>All:
>Just got it back from detail shop, fantastic!, looks better than when they
>made it. Tickled to death. Pictures forthcoming. As soon as "K" finds me a
>scanner.
>Lou Biggs
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>
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