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oldsmobile-digest      Friday, November 13 1998      Volume 01 : Number 1600



Re: Fullsize Grille ID
RE: Package Tray Fabric?
FYI (Insurance)
Re: 4sale non olds
Re:  bubba parts/ 69 conv.
Re: FYI (Insurance)
Re: decoding
Divorced vs. Integral choke survey.
Fwd: ??? 62-63 Dynamic 88?
Re: Divorced vs. Integral choke survey.
Painting question
Re: Fullsize Grille ID
(no subject)
Re: Painting question
Re: Metal In Oil Part III
Date:	Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:07:58 -0500
Re: Painting question
Cutlass Net up and running again!!
Re: Painting question
Re: Painting question
Re: value
Re: Parts needed for 70 442
Re: Instant Messenger 
Re: Metal In Oil Part III
Re: Parts needed for 70 442
Flywheel
Re: UNBOUNCE: Re: last night's 455 teardown /  Cam Question
Non Olds, help
Re: Package Tray Fabric? 
RE: Non Olds, help
RE: Package Tray Fabric? 
Re: Package Tray Fabric?
Re: Non Olds, help
Re: FYI (Insurance)
I got it :-) 4-sale :-(
New Webpage address
Re: I got it :-) 4-sale :-(
Re: Olds List Centennial Video
cshankle@home.com
a cabling we will go
Re: Olds List Centennial Video
Cutless Door.
Re: Q-Jet Rebuild info. was: I got it :-) 4-sale :-(
I have a 75 S (Re: Cutless Door.)
Re: Instant Messenger (non-olds, sorry)
Re: Cutless Door.
TIES?!? OLDS?!?
Re: Instant Messenger (non-olds, sorry)
Re: value
Re: value
Re: ??? 62-63 Dynamic 88?
Re: UNBOUNCE: '91 Cutlass 3.4L
Re: TIES?!? OLDS?!?
Re: Cutless Door.
UNBOUNCE: Flywheel
Dual Bail Master Cylinders
1992 Olds med. Quasar Blue
Re: Dual Bail Master Cylinders
Re: Parts needed for 70 442
Re: 1992 Olds med. Quasar Blue
Re: G-tech pro indorcements?
valve cover paint
Cutlass Front Bumper
Re: Parts needed for 70 442
Replacement body panels advice
RE: valve cover paint
build sheet
Re: Replacement body panels advice
Re: build sheet
Repro Door Panel Suppliers??
Plastic Inner Fender Suppliers??
Re: Instant Messenger (non-olds, sorry)
Hot Rod Trivia

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:08:55 -0500
From: CCAC Network User cgc74 <cgc74@unix1.ccac.edu>
Subject: Re: Fullsize Grille ID

Greg,
For '85 Only the Delta 88 Royale Brougham coupes and sedans and LS
sedans had the grid grill as on the '80 98.  Base Delta 88 Royale and
Custom Cruiser had a grille composed of four chrome rectangles stacked
on top of each other.  '86 Custom cruiser Wagons went to a grid design
but with fewer grids than '85 Delta Broughams.  I believe this was also
the case in '87.  '88-'90's had finer mesh design.  Hope that helps
- -Chris Carlson

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
> 
> I know that the '85 Delta 88 used the large-grid chromed grille that was
> originally used on the '80 98. Did this grille carry on in the Custom
> Cruiser wagons after that? There's a nice-looking CC here that has it and
> I'm wondering if it is an '85 or other year. Thanks!
> 
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:23:58 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Package Tray Fabric?

> thanks for noticing, correct terminology keeps the amount of
> info we all have to remember down. 

It's really called the package tray? I always heard warnings about
how you _weren't_ supposed to put stuff back there since obviously
if you stop suddenly, it'll get airborne and whack you in the back
of the head.

>> This is the rather loose weave which covers the flat surface 
>> just beneath the rear window.

BTW, am I right in thinking that cars with no rear speakers got
a solid material back there; only those with rear speakers in the
back had the loose-weave stuff, which disguised the holes without
muffling the sound...?

- -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:28:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: FYI (Insurance)

To all list members,

Well, I finally got what I had wanted out of that girl's insurance
agency. But, I have a little bit of advice to give out to everyone. If
you are restoring a classic and can't afford to carry full coverage,
keep your receipts! Her agency had based the value of my baby as if it
had never been touched since 69. He said that it looked "nice" in the
picture, but he said that any 200 dollar paint job can look nice. So,
I had to prove to them that it had been restored. The dates on the
receipts proved to them that it had not been on the road that long.
They wanted to settle for $1,700 but I got them to give me a check for
the total cost of the parts and labor for a total of $2,131.23.
Granted, that is only a 400 dollar difference, but it still is 400
bucks that I did not believe I should have to pay since it wasn't my
fault! She was in the wrong and she got cited for it! But, I got what
I wanted and I am happy! I hope that no one has to go through this,
but just in case, keep your receipts!

Finally content,
Del




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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:12:07 -0600 (CST)
From: hitson@i1.net (roger hitson)
Subject: Re: 4sale non olds

>For Sale
>By Owner
>Complete Set Of
>Encyclopedia
>Britannica
>Excellent Condition
>No Longer Needed
>Wife Knows Everything
>
Holy sh*t, Ron man. ROFLMAO

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:02:27 EST
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re:  bubba parts/ 69 conv.

well the list member looking for parts for a 69 conv. (a 98), please reply to
me privately, i lost your email and may have some thing that interest you.
steven,  w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:38:47 -0500 (EST)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: FYI (Insurance)

At 06:28 AM 11/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
>To all list members,
>
>Well, I finally got what I had wanted out of that girl's insurance
>agency. But, I have a little bit of advice to give out to everyone. If
>you are restoring a classic and can't afford to carry full coverage,
>keep your receipts! Her agency had based the value of my baby as if it

Man, you should see the file of receipts I have for my '68 442. I didn't bag
up all the bolts like I should have when we were taking things apart, but I
got every receipt related to this whole project, that's for sure. <Got
receipts for all those new bolts, too. ;-) >

I refuse to add up all my receipts until the car is done. It'll be too
depressing unless I have that finished project to look at and comfort me.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:54:48 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: decoding

That's interesting because the sales brochure for the 1969
car shows the F-85 as available in sports coupe only.  (If
anyone is interested they can go to
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson and follow the links to see
it)  The last page shows what body styles were available in
what models and only lists sports coupe under F-85.

There are a lot of mistakes in these things so I'll chalk
this up as another one.

jason shreve wrote:
> 
> I almost bought one about two years ago, they were availible in holiday
> coupes!!!!
> 
>  For example, I don't believe
> >you could get an F-85 Holiday Coupe in 1969.
> >
> 
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'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:55:10 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Divorced vs. Integral choke survey.

STOP!!!

DO NOT POST REPLIES TO Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca !!!

Send directly to   KarlAune@aol.com   !!!

The results and pithy anecdotes will be posted later.

Now.

Got 2 Q-jets.
1966 div choke & 1972 integral choke.
1966 one jetted right for SOM.

Got 1 intake.
For integral choke.

Would like to hear opinions for, or against use of divorced choke.

To wit: Is it worth the purchase of a div. choke intake to bebuild a 1966 carb
or is it better to re-rod and re-jet the 1972 Qjet?

Again, please do not post to the list unless your "choke story" is incredibly
funny or tragic or involves dwarves or Israeli freedom fighters.

Thanks much.

SOM
&KA

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:07:36 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: ??? 62-63 Dynamic 88?

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In a message dated 98-11-12 01:12:53 EST, jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

<< I found a 62 or 63 Dynamic 88 two door a few months back.  I can't 
 remember exactly the year. The side mirrors were monted on top of the 
 fenders, and it has a curved front winshield that curves into the roof.  
 I can get the car for around $300.  The winshield and back glass are 
 shattered.  I was scared off by this, because I would imagine the glass 
 would be hard to find and expensive.  An ideas on how much it could be 
 worth and aprox. cost of glass?  >>

Short version.
As this is a pre 1965 car, it does not have a "modern-type" engine, but an
older 394 or 371 (depends on 1962 or 1963). The Older engines are tougher to
get parts for especially because there were no 4 4 2's until 1964. With the
list and its member's sources, you should be able to locate glass at a decent
price, Karl may actually be able to aquire if a 1962 Dynamic, but cannot give
price estimate.

Furthermore, for a 1960's car to be sitting for 5 years is a bad sign.
Anticipate on replacing several crucial systems (especially if original!!!);
1) brake lines 2) gas line 3) carb (rebuild) 4) cap/rotor/plugs 5)
transmission rebuild (it is probably what is reffered to by some as a
"Junkaway" ) 6) Tires (if these are bias-ply then priority is between brake
and gas lines!!!!)

Aside from that, if all original, this could be a REALLY sweet car!

Good luck!!

SOM
&KA

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I found a 62 or 63 Dynamic 88 two door a few months back.  I can't 
remember exactly the year. The side mirrors were monted on top of the 
fenders, and it has a curved front winshield that curves into the roof.  
I can get the car for around $300.  The winshield and back glass are 
shattered.  I was scared off by this, because I would imagine the glass 
would be hard to find and expensive.  An ideas on how much it could be 
worth and aprox. cost of glass?  It is all original and has been sitting 
for a least 5 years.  Thanks for the help.



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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:31:12 -0800
From: Bob Blanchard <bob149@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Divorced vs. Integral choke survey.

At 11:55 AM 11/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>STOP!!!
>
>DO NOT POST REPLIES TO Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca !!!
>
>Send directly to   KarlAune@aol.com   !!!

Karl is the only one that could possibly benefit from info like this.
No one else could possibly use the info.

this reply nonsense is getting old. If you dont want to be on a mailing list 
sick to usenet, otherwise STOP WHINING.

(fully aware of what address this post went too)

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:33:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Painting question

Hello again list,

I have a quick question. I am going to need to replace the windshield
in my Olds. It is cracked from the accident and it also leaks so the
seal needs replacing. I will be having the rear window seal done at
the same time. Now, would it be better to have the car repainted with
the glass out so that the paint can wrap around the area where the
seal would go or to have the windows put back in and then repaint?
Just curious because I have seen cars start to peel right at the seam
where the windshield chrome and the body meet. Thanks for any advice
that can be given!

Del




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1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
1981 John Deer Snowmobile
197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:49:49 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Fullsize Grille ID

Greg,
    '84 Delta LS - '84 98 grille
    '85 Delta LS and Royale Brougham - '80 98 grille
    '86 Custom Cruiser - '81 98 grille
    '87-'90 Custom Cruiser - '82 98 grille
All used a rocket insetad of the Ninety-Eight crest in the center.
Regards,
Fred

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:35:56 -0500
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: (no subject)

unsubscribe oldsmobile

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:44:39 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Painting question

> Now, would it be better to have the car repainted with the 
> glass out so that the paint can wrap around the area where
> the seal would go or to have the windows put back in and
> then repaint?

Having the glass out would enable you to paint the sealing surface,
FWIW. You then need to get the glass back in without marking up the
nice new paint, but at least you'd have had a chance to do rust
repair and so on. I'd vote for painting before glass installation
if you've got the chance. This is the way the factory does it.  :-)

> Just curious because I have seen cars start to peel right at
> the seam where the windshield chrome and the body meet.

Well, at minimum you've got to remove the chrome trim. I'd guess
the cars you saw were just painted up to the edge, and no one
removed the trim 'cause it's kind of a pain to do.

- -- Andy


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:04:05 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Metal In Oil Part III

     Igor, if you are having problems with the lenght of the dipstick (you say
it's rubbing the crank), are you SURE that it is even giving you an accurate
reading of oil level?

Collyn

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:07:58 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Date:	Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:07:58 -0500

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This is as yet temporary as I have received my InterNIC conformation for
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Tripod. That may be a few more days to complete. Nonetheless it's running!

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 12470-9709

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:05:38 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: Painting question

While the glass is out have the openings painted.  Then install the glass and
leave the trim off until after the rest of the car is painted.
That way you are not installing glass over the new paint.  Also as Andy
pointed out, the chrome trim should be removed before painting
anyway.  So you would be installing the new trim after the whole car was
painted regardless.

My $.02
Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:15:18 -0500
From: "Gib Loudon" <loud5269@kettering.edu>
Subject: Cutlass Net up and running again!!

Allright everyone!  I finally got Cutlass Net up and running again.
http://www.cutlass.net .  Had some difficulties a few months ago but now its
working as good as new.  PLEASE GO CHECK OUT THE SITE and tell me what you
think.  Any Questions, Comments, or Suggestions are welcome.  I put up a
link that leads to a page about me....yes..now you can actually find out who
the Rocketman really is.  ONCE MORE:  I would like everyone to send me a
picture of their car with info about it to my email address,
(cutlass@mill.tds.net) so I can put everyones car on the web.  I don't wanna
hear any gripes about your car needing a paint job and you are embarrassed
to show it.  I need a paint job too but hey...I put mine on there.  Also If
anyone would be interested in a Cutlass Net Club with a newsletter and
possible discounts with parts stores let me know and I will see what I can
do.  But like I said check out the page and FOR GOD'S SAKE MAN!!! SIGN THE
GUESTBOOK!!   That's about all for now.  Email me back personnally...not to
the list and give me some feedback.

Gib Loudon
http://www.cutlass.net
cutlass@mill.tds.net

P.S.  I also design web sites.  If you would like one of your own....email
me and we will discuss the details.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:19:48 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Painting question

BE CAREFUL when removing the trim. I damaged a peice of front glass trim when
painting my Cutlass, and have yet to find a suitable replacement. Also, the
front and rear window channels are RUST MAGNETS!. I have even had a local
windsheild/glass place here in Dallas say they will not install glass in an
older GM car without first getting it appraised for sheetmetal work, because
"they are all rusted so bad, that the window will never seal again!"

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:38:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Painting question

  If you want the paint job to be done right, doing it with the
windows out is a better choice, especially if you are going to have
them out anyway.  It will give you a more original looking paint job.

Just my opinion,

Stefan
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe



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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:44:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: value

  Maybe you could put one of them on blocks somewhere and throw a
cover over it.  Then fix up the other one, and when you have the money
(maybe some time in the future) you can fix the other one.  That way
you can have both of them.  If you have no room for storage, go with
the one that is in better condition.  Even though the H/O will
probably be worth more (especially of you restore it) go with
whichever one you like better.  If it was me, I'd keep the '69 just
because I like the A bodies better.

Just my opinion,
Stefan
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe




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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Parts needed for 70 442

  As far as the fender goes, If it's just rusted out in the common
spot (bottom behind the wheel) just get a patch panel from Year One. 
You'll save yourself a lot of money (the patch costs about $45) and it
looks great.  It is impossible to find repro fenders for 1970 (unless
you want fiberglass), I know that from experience.  You can buy a NOS
fender from (I think) Brother's, but it costs $1200.
If you want to go used, Desert Dog Auto Salvage is a good place to
look.  The price is around $300-$400, but the fender is almost
guaranteed solid, as they're in Arizona.  I believe the web page is
www.desertdog.com  I might be wrong about that tho.  As far as I know,
the only difference between 442 and cutlass fenders is emblem
location, so if you can get a cutlass fender, It should bolt right on,
and the holes are easy to patch.

I hope some of this info will be useful,
Stefan
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
sgadecki@yahoo.com



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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:04:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger 

  I have AOL Instant Messager.  It comes with Netscape Communicator,
or you can downloaD it for free from www.aol.com    It is a very
useful tool to talk to people in real time(i.e. sell parts, talk about
OLDSMOBILES >olds content<).  It's very similar to ICQ for those who
know what that is.   My I.M. name is Phizz69 if anyone cares.  I
reccomend it to anyone.  AOL sucks, but the messenger is cool.

Just my .02 cents

Stefan
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
sgadecki@yahoo.com










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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:21:38 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Metal In Oil Part III

I believe so.  When I put 5 quarts of oil, the level is right on.  It is
just that there is quite a bit of length between the ADD mark and the
bottom.

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From: GT5726@aol.com <GT5726@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: November 12, 1998 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Metal In Oil Part III


>     Igor, if you are having problems with the lenght of the dipstick (you
say
>it's rubbing the crank), are you SURE that it is even giving you an
accurate
>reading of oil level?
>
>Collyn
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:43:37 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Parts needed for 70 442

> If you want to go used, Desert Dog Auto Salvage is a good place to
> look.  The price is around $300-$400, but the fender is almost
> guaranteed solid, as they're in Arizona.  I believe the web page is
> www.desertdog.com  I might be wrong about that tho.

Well, that domain doesn't exist, although AltaVista says it used to
read "I am out of business" as of last August; it's registered to
the Desert Dog Supply Company in Arizona. However, there is a
http://www.desertdogautoparts.com that might fit the bill. Only weird
thing with that URL is that a reverse trace on the phone number shows
that the guy lives on Boeger Avenue in Westchester, IL, not exactly
Arizona territory. But IIRC, somebody else here said that he does
business over the Internet and drop-ships the parts from Arizona, so
maybe this will help.

- -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:16:38 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Flywheel

Is there anyone out there with a spare flywheel thye would be willing to
get rid of
Please E me if you do

Thanks

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:34:50 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Re: last night's 455 teardown /  Cam Question

be glad to the lift is .478 duration 292 deg advertised have the complete
specs if you want them good cam sounds good and runs respectably put one in
a 350 early high compression engine and it turned 14.00
in the quarter stock everything but the cam 2.78 gears would have done a lot
better with more gear...KK
p.s. still working on the videos will get them out to you guys as soon as I
can havent cashed any checks yet...KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Oldsmobile <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 4:52 AM
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Re: last night's 455 teardown / Cam Question


>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: John Barnett <john@jb-net.com>
>Subject: Re: last night's 455 teardown /  Cam Question
>
>> After finally getting to the camshaft...I saw on the distributor end of
the
>> cam "ERSON TQ-20H"
>> Any help on finding out the lift/duration numbers???
>___________________________
>
>Amazingly enough, I found an Erson catalog that
>I've had since 1989.  I never
>used one of their cams, but I have used their
>forged aluminum roller rockers.
>They do list some cams with dual profile.  Anyway,
>here's the details on your
>camshaft:
>
>>From book - "The performer. Super mid range and
>top end power. Acceptable
>idle and low end power plus fuel economy.  Good
>driveability."
>
>Valve Lift  : .478
>Duration    :  292 deg
>Dur @ .050  :  214 deg
>Timing      :  IO=39 IC=73 EO=81 EC=31
>
>Hope this helps! -John
>
>64 D88
>69 442
>71 VC
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:14:37 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Non Olds, help

Would anyone know where to find retail and whsle, prices on 1986 Che*y
s-10, Guy I work with just got creamed by some guy, insurance co already
giving him the run around. 1986 S-10, reg bed, V6, 5 speed, bare bones.
Want to total, but can't find anywhere on the net that goes back that far.
truck has no rust, high mileage, average body, high miles, but mechanically
real good shape, Any info appreciated. tia.

Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:33:12 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Package Tray Fabric? 

Ray, 
they do make two kinds of coverings, didn't think is was that bad.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Ray Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Package Tray Fabric? 
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 6:58 PM
> 
> Yeah, nice usage of correct terminology there...

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:32:54 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Non Olds, help

Lou, 

Go to www.kbb.com  Kelly Blue Book, the standard.  Goes back to 1978.

Ray 

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Lou Biggs
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 6:15 PM
To: Olds List
Subject: Non Olds, help


Would anyone know where to find retail and whsle, prices on 1986 Che*y
s-10, Guy I work with just got creamed by some guy, insurance co already
giving him the run around. 1986 S-10, reg bed, V6, 5 speed, bare bones.
Want to total, but can't find anywhere on the net that goes back that far.
truck has no rust, high mileage, average body, high miles, but mechanically
real good shape, Any info appreciated. tia.

Lou Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:36:32 -0500
From: "Ray Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Package Tray Fabric? 

huh?
What's that?

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Lou Biggs
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 6:33 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Package Tray Fabric? 


Ray, 
they do make two kinds of coverings, didn't think is was that bad.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Ray Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Package Tray Fabric? 
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 6:58 PM
> 
> Yeah, nice usage of correct terminology there...

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:42:22 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Package Tray Fabric?

Andy,
Correct!
Lou
- ----------
> From: Andrew C. Green <acg_o@hotmail.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Package Tray Fabric?
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 8:23 AM

> BTW, am I right in thinking that cars with no rear speakers got
> a solid material back there; only those with rear speakers in the
> back had the loose-weave stuff, which disguised the holes without
> muffling the sound...?
> 
> -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:50:20 EST
From: RICH6986@aol.com
Subject: Re: Non Olds, help

or you can go to   www.autobytel.com click on research then trade in values
then just foollow what it tells you to do if its an 86 s-10 blazer w/ nothing
the value is around 
1200              							
												
Rich

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:05:11 -0500
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: FYI (Insurance)

Contentment is a condition devoutly to be wished.  We all feel good for you.
Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
To: Oldsmobile E-mail Ring <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:29 AM
Subject: FYI (Insurance)


>To all list members,
>
>Well, I finally got what I had wanted out of that girl's insurance
>agency. But, I have a little bit of advice to give out to everyone. If
>you are restoring a classic and can't afford to carry full coverage,
>keep your receipts! Her agency had based the value of my baby as if it
>had never been touched since 69. He said that it looked "nice" in the
>picture, but he said that any 200 dollar paint job can look nice. So,
>I had to prove to them that it had been restored. The dates on the
>receipts proved to them that it had not been on the road that long.
>They wanted to settle for $1,700 but I got them to give me a check for
>the total cost of the parts and labor for a total of $2,131.23.
>Granted, that is only a 400 dollar difference, but it still is 400
>bucks that I did not believe I should have to pay since it wasn't my
>fault! She was in the wrong and she got cited for it! But, I got what
>I wanted and I am happy! I hope that no one has to go through this,
>but just in case, keep your receipts!
>
>Finally content,
>Del
>
>
>
>
>==
>Rock-Man's Page
>http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
>rockman20@yahoo.com
>1986 Honda Accord DX
>1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
>1981 John Deer Snowmobile
>197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:31:48 EST
From: Sprotten25@aol.com
Subject: I got it :-) 4-sale :-(

I just got the deal of my life i traded a 79 monte carlo (running) for a 75
H/O. The bad part is I have to sell my 69 sports coupe cutlass. It has some
problems; rust around front (I have a brand new one) and back glass.I belive
it to be all original. I will be scanning pic's soon. e-mail me if interested.
SPROTTEN25@AOL.COM
the car is in shreveport la. make offer
   
Thanks 
Dino 
69 cutlass
75 H/O                

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:59:34 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: New Webpage address

http://kellys-oldsmobile.iscool.net
Cool, eh?
Kelly Erickson
1966 Cutlass, 442 and 54 Super 88

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:37:03 -0200
From: BRIAN SHANKLE <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: I got it :-) 4-sale :-(

Anybody got any ideas where I can find a comprehensive, yet easy to
understand set of instructions for the first-time quadrajet (or any
other carb for that matter) rebuilder?  I have tried 442.com and I feel
that I may need something a little more basic to start with.  Any ideas?
Brian
86 Cutlass Supreme Brougham

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:44:42 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Olds List Centennial Video

>Hi folks,
>              If you've already ordered, thanks again.  (Shameless plug
>follows.)  This would make a great holiday gift for that Olds fan on
>your list.    :-) 


Just had the chance to watch mine. Nice job, Doug.

drc

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:43:22 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: cshankle@home.com

What part of the country are you in ??????????

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:41:53 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: a cabling we will go

List,
        I finally got the shifter cable sorted out in my
67' Cutlass with TH400 - after many tries and a near
miss (oh sooo close) with help from SU (Greg) I
used a Pontiac cable and a Pontiac bracket with
slightly elongated bolt holes. The shifter and console
are now in the proper place and new cable should last the
rest of her life. Thanks to all who contributed.....


The General

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:04:57 -0600
From: Doug Newman <newmand@WCBI.com>
Subject: Re: Olds List Centennial Video

Hi Dave,
	      You wrote;

	Just had the chance to watch mine. Nice job, Doug.
	
	Thanks!  Glad you enjoyed it...

	Doug N.  

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:52:01 -0500
From: "Ron or JoAnn Hengerer" <Rhengerer@email.msn.com>
Subject: Cutless Door.

I need a right side door for my 74 Cutless S.  I've located one in a scrap
yard for $100.  They will probably ship it to me but the guy isn't sure if
there is a mirror on it or not.  I don't think I want it without the mirror.
Didn't the Cutless Supreme come with a right side mirror.

Thanks Ron

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:52:04 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Q-Jet Rebuild info. was: I got it :-) 4-sale :-(

BRIAN SHANKLE wrote:

> Anybody got any ideas where I can find a comprehensive, yet easy to
> understand set of instructions for the first-time quadrajet (or any
> other carb for that matter) rebuilder?  I have tried 442.com and I feel
> that I may need something a little more basic to start with.  Any ideas?

    Most folks will tell you to get Doug Roe's "Rochester Carburetors"
published by HP Books.  It is very comprehensive and understandable.  I got
mine at a Kroch's & Brentano's bookstore in a mall.  I didn't even have to
order it.  I would think most other large bookstores should have it.  Maybe
Amazon.com has it, too.  It is also available from Year One and Summit
Racing Equipment.  In addition, the Haynes Manuals series now has a guide to
Rochester carbs.  Can't vouch for it, though.  I've never read it.  It is
available at many chain auto parts stores (Auto Zone, Pep Boys, etc.)   Even
the rebuilding instructions that come with the rebuild kits have some good,
basic info.  But it's pretty sketchy.  BTW, Q-Jets aren't very hard to
rebuild.  Just be patient.  Have Fun

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:24:29 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmich.edu>
Subject: I have a 75 S (Re: Cutless Door.)

Ron or JoAnn Hengerer wrote:
> 
> I need a right side door for my 74 Cutless S.  I've located one in a scrap
> yard for $100.  They will probably ship it to me but the guy isn't sure if
> there is a mirror on it or not.  I don't think I want it without the mirror.
> Didn't the Cutless Supreme come with a right side mirror.
> 
> Thanks Ron

I have a 75 S parts car, it is located in Toledo, OH. Contact me
privately if you can use parts.

- -- 
***********
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
***************************
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (350 V-8 4 bbl)
1975 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (250 I-6 1 bbl)
1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (350 V-8 2 bbl)
1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4 bbl)
*******************************************
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
*******************************************

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:24:42 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger (non-olds, sorry)

What is it????


>I've got it, screen name TStarkey1
>
>Tom Starkey - '68 Cutlass Supreme
>
>Matt Cremean wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry about the waste,
>> But I was just curious as to who has this. I know Karl has it, along
>> with most people on AOL, but who else?
>> 
>> BTW- my name is CSupreme73 if anyone wants to get ahold of me.
>> --
>> ***********
>> Matt Cremean
>> mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
>> ***************************
>> 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (350 V-8 4 bbl)
>> 1975 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (250 I-6 1 bbl)
>> 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S (350 V-8 2 bbl)
>> 1983 Ch*vrolet C*price (305 V-8 4 bbl)
>> *******************************************
>> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
>> *******************************************


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:25:55 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cutless Door.

Hey Ron, Its CutlAss, and I have no idea about any Olds over 1972.
Kelly Erickson
http://kellys-oldsmobile.iscool.net
1966 Cutlass, 442 and 54 Super 88

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:26:44 -0700
From: Ben <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: TIES?!? OLDS?!?

Okay, here's the scoop. I'm working on updating this guys web page and
the olds list is one of the test subjects! Now comes the OLDS part. What
saying, quoptes, even pics would you like to be on these ties? Great for
gifts! Specially with Christmast around the corner. If there is a big
enough response I'll put a section specially for OLDS!!! Shoot! You
could even use these to advertise J&C or Supercars!!!! Just a few
thoughts, but I wanted Olds to have the biggest and FIRST influence on
the tie market as I am involved in it. If you even have suggestions for
the site please feel free to comment! It's open for discussion! Just
keep the bandwidth down and email me privatly with all thoughts, hints,
and suggestions. If you want (I'm sure it can be done easily) you could
put the pic of your car or even your dream car on one! Check out the
site http://www.digitaldune.com/~acutec/
Thanks, and Happy Oldsmobiling!
Ben
62 Olds F-85 (http://www.primenet.com/~olds442/forsale.html)
68 Olds 442
C heads forsale, COMPLETE

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:31:16 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger (non-olds, sorry)

Me (Kelly Erickson) has AOL (kinda obvious). My screen name is Donzikel, so
you Olds guys, IM me, I never get to talk to anyone about cars :(
Kelly ERickson
1966 Cutlass 330 4bbl
1966 4-4-2 455 2x4bbl
1954 Super 88 324.4 4bbl

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:33:04 -0500
From: "Steve C" <cutlass@citlink.net>
Subject: Re: value

Does anybody know what the value of a 1985 Olds 442 with T-Topps and fully
loaded is worth. The car is in mint condition with only 1500 miles on the
completly rebuilt and bluprinted 307.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: value


>
>  Maybe you could put one of them on blocks somewhere and throw a
>cover over it.  Then fix up the other one, and when you have the money
>(maybe some time in the future) you can fix the other one.  That way
>you can have both of them.  If you have no room for storage, go with
>the one that is in better condition.  Even though the H/O will
>probably be worth more (especially of you restore it) go with
>whichever one you like better.  If it was me, I'd keep the '69 just
>because I like the A bodies better.
>
>Just my opinion,
>Stefan
>1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:43:46 EST
From: DonziKel@aol.com
Subject: Re: value

8grand?

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:46:17 -0500
From: Cliff McFarlane <mcfrlan@bconnex.net>
Subject: Re: ??? 62-63 Dynamic 88?

Hello. Wether this car is a 62 or 63 it will have a 394 if it is the
correct motor. The 394 was used on all big cars from 59-64 and is hard
to find parts for now. If you can remember if the car had a sort of oval
shaped brake lights then it is a 62 but if it had really square brake
lights its a 63 (maybe that wil help you remember). As for the windows
in the car a buddy of mine ordered a new front windshield for his 63
Ninety-Eight from Standard Auto Glass a year or so ago and I think it
cost him somewhere around $600 (Canadian) for it. If the drivers mirror
is mounted on the fender that usually means that it is a power mirror,
but the passenger mirror shouldn't be on the fender, it should be on the
door or else the car has incorrect mirrors. If you have anymore
questions or anything about the car send me an e-mail privately and I
hope I can help you. Good luck.

Cliff McFarlane - Tottenham, Ontario, Canada
1962 Ninety-Eight - (parts)
1962 Starfire conv. - (in restoration)
1962 Starfire htp - (parts)
1963 Starfire htp - (future project)
1963 Starfire htp - (restored) http://www.442.com/mcfarlane.html
1963 Starfire conv. - (parts)
1957 F*rd Fairlane 500 conv. - (restored)
________________________________________________________________________
jason shreve wrote:
 
I found a 62 or 63 Dynamic 88 two door a few months back.  I can't
remember exactly the year. The side mirrors were monted on top of the
fenders, and it has a curved front winshield that curves into the roof. 
I can get the car for around $300.  The winshield and back glass are
shattered.  I was scared off by this, because I would imagine the glass
would be hard to find and expensive.  An ideas on how much it could be
worth and aprox. cost of glass?  It is all original and has been sitting
for a least 5 years.  Thanks for the help. 
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:46:53 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: '91 Cutlass 3.4L

Check the power stering fluid or the pump!!!!!!!


>
>Just wondered my olds stalls now and then and i noticed that it happens 
only
>when I take a turn,does anyone know what causes this???
>
>Thanks
>
>Peter (simonp@cgocable.net)
>
>
>


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Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:48:10 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: TIES?!? OLDS?!?

Well, you do know that there already is an Olds necktie, right? By Ralph
Marlin... bought mine at Lansing in '97. Nice tie. Even licensed by GM.
Blue background, and all sorts of drawings of things like a '53 Fiesta,
'59 98, '49 88, '71 4-4-2, and others... suppose we could always use
another though. Put a '68 on there...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:20:38 -0500
From: "Todd M.Williams" <todd@wvadventures.net>
Subject: Re: Cutless Door.

At 07:52 PM 11/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I need a right side door for my 74 Cutless S.  I've located one in a scrap
>yard for $100.  They will probably ship it to me but the guy isn't sure if
>there is a mirror on it or not.  I don't think I want it without the mirror.
>Didn't the Cutless Supreme come with a right side mirror.
>
>Thanks Ron
>
>
>
>

Ron i have a 74 442 im waiting to part it out till next weekend but if the
door will work on yours.. let me know if you want it does have the sport
mirror on it and has glass and if you need the door panel there still
on...there white

Todd

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:00:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Flywheel

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject:  Flywheel

Is there anyone out there with a spare flywheel thye would be willing to
g*t rid of

Please E me if you do

Thanks

Robert Schinkel
docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls, Canada
905-357-4454

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:04:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Dual Bail Master Cylinders

Anyone know if he dual bail style m/c used on power disk brake cars from
(I think) '67 to '69 are still available anywhere? I see in the Supercars
catalog and others that only the single bail style is offered. I would
like to get the dual bail type when I convert my '68.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:15:10 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: 1992 Olds med. Quasar Blue

How many are familiar with the GM paint on a 1992 Olds (Cutlass Supreme)
called Medium Quasar Blue? I was looking to paint my 72 442 convertible
this color with white stripes. All opinions are welcomed, good or bad.


Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:12:33 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: Dual Bail Master Cylinders

Greg,
Jim Chermack can get them all day long for around $20.  The EXACT look
you are needing.  Plus, importantly, functions as original.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:15:59 EST
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts needed for 70 442

In a message dated 11/12/98 4:47:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
acg_o@hotmail.com writes:

<< www.desertdogautoparts.com that might fit the bill. Only weird
 thing with that URL is that a reverse trace on the phone number shows
 that the guy lives on Boeger Avenue in Westchester, IL, not exactly
 Arizona territory. But IIRC, somebody else here said that he does
 business over the Internet and drop-ships the parts from Arizona, so
 mayb >>
   Bob Cline owner of Desertdog Autoparts lives in Illinois, he makes regular
trips to Az and buys truckloads of rust free parts.I have delt with him and he
is honest and reasonable on his prices. He has ads on WWW.442.COM



Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:19:39 -0500
From: "jlabay" <jlabay@neo.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 1992 Olds med. Quasar Blue

That is a nice color.  It was also on the 94+ F-bodies known as Meduim
Quasar Blue Metallic.  I am planning to paint my 72 Cutlass Supreme Dodge
Viper Blue with white stripes.

Jason Labay

How many are familiar with the GM paint on a 1992 Olds (Cutlass Supreme)
>called Medium Quasar Blue? I was looking to paint my 72 442 convertible
>this color with white stripes. All opinions are welcomed, good or bad.
>
>
>Pettrix@prodigy.net
>
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:24:05 -0500
From: Joe & Toni Artwell <tjf26@gte.net>
Subject: Re: G-tech pro indorcements?

Gregory Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> Anyone out there personally use or witness a G-tech pro?  How do the
> results compare with real world drag strip times?
>
My friend bought one and it works great. Worth the money! It is accurate
also. I saw an article in one of the car mags, can't remember which, but
it said that it is highly accurate. Only thing you have to watch is
where you use it. My fiend got a $140.00 ticket because of it.
                               Joe

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:35:30 -0500
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: valve cover paint

Man, I just painted a plain set of Olds valve covers with wrinkle finish
black paint. They look AWESOME! I highly recommend this treatment. I looks
really cool on accessory brackets as well. You have to follow the directions
EXACTLY as written or it won't wrinkle. Makes plain valve covers look really
high dollar.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:38:48 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Cutlass Front Bumper

Hey list. Contacted Bob of Desert Dog about a supply of bumpers for the
CC-IROC-SS conversions. Thought the list might be able to use the contact.
Highlights follow:

<Bob>

A nice used 1986 Cutlass front bumper assembly is $125.00.

<GJC>

Apparently you misunderstood. I'm looking not for nice but for a whole lot
of excellent. You won't scare me on price but I do need a constant supply.
Can supply straight cores. Can be sent if you rechrome/exchange. I have a
"nice" bumper on the prototype. Looking for "new" quality bumpers or
rechroming service.

<Bob>

To restore YOUR solid bumper cores, no matter how smashed or dented, is
$225.00
each with a full three year guarantee!

Sincerely,
Bob

http://www.desertdogautoparts.com/">Desert Dog Auto Parts
1-708-409-1040

<GJC>

This exchange was about Olds G-body bumpers. However Bob did relent that
most years can be handled so I'm sending this to both lists.


- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs
Purling, N.Y.
 12470-9709

mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com

ICQ# 5209322
Personal ICQ Communication Center
http://wwp.mirabilis.com/5209322

Couse Custom Cutlass Prototype,
CC-IROC-SS-#00001 =  "Quincy"
http://members.tripod.com/CC_IROC_SS/
Soon to be: www.CC_IROC_SS.com

Oldsmobile Club of America
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:41:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: Re: Parts needed for 70 442

I bought rechromed bumpers for my '68 442 from Bob for $250 each exchange.
Mine went out to him on a Thursday, new ones were on my door step Wed. I
couldn't be happier with the new ones. There may be "better" bumpers
outhere, but I, a novice, cannot tell the difference. I'd recommend him.

I've bought parts from Everett also. Couldn't be happier with him too...


><< www.desertdogautoparts.com that might fit the bill. Only weird
> thing with that URL is that a reverse trace on the phone number shows
> that the guy lives on Boeger Avenue in Westchester, IL, not exactly

   Bob Cline owner of Desertdog Autoparts lives in Illinois, he makes regular
>trips to Az and buys truckloads of rust free parts.I have delt with him and he
>is honest and reasonable on his prices. He has ads on WWW.442.COM
>
>
>
>Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire
>
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:55:45 -0500
From: "jlabay" <jlabay@neo.rr.com>
Subject: Replacement body panels advice

I am trying to find the best and cheapest source for body repair panels.  My
1972 Cutlass Supreme needs lower fender patch panels, rear 1/4 lower patch
panels (only at very bottom of rear), and a right rear outter wheel housing
replacement panel.  Quality isn't really important as long as the price is
good.  This 72 is going to be a strip/cruise car and will hardly if ever see
a car show.  Only place I have founds so far is Oldsmobile USA parts supply.

Jason Labay
98 C2500
80 Olds 442 W-30
72 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:57:33 -0500
From: "<GJC> CC-IROC-SS" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: valve cover paint

I would think that after a reasonably short period of run time, that the
wrinkle finish paint texture would become quite a grease collector. Not a
flame, just an assessment. Keep the gumout handy and good luck.

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs
Purling, N.Y.
 12470-9709

mailto:gjcouse@francomm.com

ICQ# 5209322
Personal ICQ Communication Center
http://wwp.mirabilis.com/5209322

Couse Custom Cutlass Prototype,
CC-IROC-SS-#00001 =  "Quincy"
http://members.tripod.com/CC_IROC_SS/
Soon to be: www.CC_IROC_SS.com

Oldsmobile Club of America
http://www.oldsclub.org

For free Win95-98 Support, come visit GJC at:
http://www.salemcounty.com/win95board/multipage1.html
G.J.C - Hanger95 Technical Support Engineer
mailto:techsupport@salemcounty.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:11:03 -0800
From: "Greg" <gjackso1@san.rr.com>
Subject: build sheet

Hay Guys could you give me some Ideas where to look for my build sheet in
my 72 Cutlass Supreme I have run out of ideas.
Greg

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:13:58 -0500
From: "Todd M.Williams" <todd@wvadventures.net>
Subject: Re: Replacement body panels advice

At 10:55 PM 11/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I am trying to find the best and cheapest source for body repair panels.  My
>1972 Cutlass Supreme needs lower fender patch panels, rear 1/4 lower patch
>panels (only at very bottom of rear), and a right rear outter wheel housing
>replacement panel.  Quality isn't really important as long as the price is
>good.  This 72 is going to be a strip/cruise car and will hardly if ever see
>a car show.  Only place I have founds so far is Oldsmobile USA parts supply.
>
>Jason Labay
>98 C2500
>80 Olds 442 W-30
>72 Cutlass Supreme



Jason 
i have 72 cutlass supreme
where is the rust at on the 1/4`s like by the side marker light ?
mite be able to help out with the panels depending where your rust is at on
the 1/4`s

i got 1/4 panels from Oldsmobile USA parts supply.right and left sides
think they were 200 a piece now heres the problem i ran into ..the 1/4 that
was on the car wasnt really bad but just around the wheel well ..well i
bought these anyways drove down to va and picked them up cause shipping was
so much it was cheaper for me to drive and get them since they was the full
lenth 1/4 s well when i gave them to my body man he was little up set
because they are the ones that are made to lay over top of your old 1/4
that are on the car allready(which i told them i didnt want them if thats
what they was but anyways) so what he did was cut out the bad part around
the wheel well and then copyied that patern on to the new ones and wielded
them on and also put new inner fenders so what im trying to say is i have
the remaining 1/4 panels right and left sides minus about 8 inches above
the wheel wells if these would be any good to you let me know  i was going
to just store them in case someone would hit the car in the years to come
Oldsmobile USA parts supply.

Todd           todd@wvadventures.net

72 Cutlass Supreme (picking it up from body shop tues dec 1 after a long wait)

74 442 (for sale come and get it)

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:22:39 -0500
From: Jeff Mullenix <muxx@exis.net>
Subject: Re: build sheet

Greg,

     This info can be good.  Inside the front/rear seats. Shoved in the
springs, above the gas tank, inside the frame of the car, under the carpet,
under the package tray, door panels and rear side panels, up in under the
dash etc.  Hope this will help.  I have found some strange places and that
not all cars had them.  But many I have had has.   Good hunting.

      Jeff 

At 08:11 PM 11/12/1998 -0800, you wrote:
>Hay Guys could you give me some Ideas where to look for my build sheet in
>my 72 Cutlass Supreme I have run out of ideas.
>Greg
>
>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:17:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff & Sherie Stanish <stanishj@svpal.org>
Subject: Repro Door Panel Suppliers??

I would like to know if it is worth the extra cost of buying assembled
door panels versus just the door panel skin.  Any
experiences/recommendations would be appreciated.

This is for a 1969 442.

Thanks,

Jeff

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:18:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff & Sherie Stanish <stanishj@svpal.org>
Subject: Plastic Inner Fender Suppliers??

Does anybody have any experience buying repro plastic inner fenders?  Any
experience/recommendations would be appreciated.

This is for a 1969 442.

Thanks,

Jeff

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 00:28:45 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger (non-olds, sorry)

Well here, if you love Oldsmobiles, you are one of us. Not too many women
out there who like to talk about musclecars, especially Olds. So consider
yourself above the rest. It is a hobby that transcends gender and race. If
you like to get turn a wrench and get dirty or just like to drive them,
your in the group. So sit down and enjoy the ride!!! Glad to have you
here!!! Are all 3 cars you listed yours? 
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: DonziKel@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Instant Messenger (non-olds, sorry)
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 8:31 PM
> 
> Me (Kelly Erickson) has AOL (kinda obvious). My screen name is Donzikel,
so
> you Olds guys, IM me, I never get to talk to anyone about cars :(
> Kelly ERickson
> 1966 Cutlass 330 4bbl
> 1966 4-4-2 455 2x4bbl
> 1954 Super 88 324.4 4bbl

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:41:15 EST
From: CCRR12@aol.com
Subject: Hot Rod Trivia

Do you recognize the following song?

Here is a song for you men and you women
You listen to the words of this song
You men
Imagine you are just gettin' off on Friday afternoon
You done worked a hard week
And you're gettin off and you're ready to go outside
You get in your car
It's all cleaned up
You get out and you get on the straight highway
You press your footfeed down to the floor
And it's roarin' down the highway
You're feelin' good cause you got a lot of motor under your wheels
You head to see your woman
Yeah, when you get there to see your woman
You screech up in the driveway
You walk out and you get up to her
And you tell her one thing
You say
"Momma, I got a HOT ROD"

Who knows the band or artist who performed this ditty?

I am sure Joe Padavano and Don Sowers know this one. Just give the others a
chance before you quote the year and name.

Randy in Oklahoma
57 88 J2

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