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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, February 1 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1745



Re: 73 H/O
Re: 73 H/O
Re: My Classic Car Olds
Re: Wipers
15x10 Cragar SS rims
MS Outlook Express v.1.5
Ebay: J-2 intake + carbs??
Re: header site
Re: My Classic Car Olds
How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE Olds related.....!
Re: My Classic Car Olds
Re: My Classic Car Olds
Re: My Classic Car Olds
Olds on TV
Re: Wipers
Re: Olds on TV
Re: My Classic Car Olds
20k 72 Olds 98
Re: Olds on TV
OAI Foam
haven't forgotten
72 HURSTOLDS poster
Re: OAI Foam
Re: OAI Foam
Olds in New Commercial
Re: My Classic Car Olds
Re: How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE Olds related.....!
Re: My Classic Car Olds
Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster
Re: Bench to Buckets Swap????????
Re: Olds in New Commercial
Specific vacuum question...68 Toro
Re: OAI Foam
Re: OAI Foam
tranny lines and disc brakes
Re: Bondurant School Uses Olds!
Re: tranny lines and disc brakes
RE: 72 HURSTOLDS poster
Re: OAI Foam
Re: tranny lines and disc brakes
Comp Cams 305H needs a new home.
Re: tranny lines and disc brakes
Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster
Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster
Re: Edelbrock Performer 455
Re: Olds in New Commercial
Re: Wipers
[none]
Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home.
73 C Supreme stripe
Re: Edelbrock Performer 455
More Work!
Re: tranny lines and disc brakes
Re: [More Work!]
Re: More Work!
Re: Olds in New Commercial
69-72 Convertible Frame Interchange
Re: 69-72 Convertible Frame Interchange
Re: 69-72 Convertible Frame Interchange
Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home. + Performer intake FS
Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home. + Performer intake FS
Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home. + Performer intake FS

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:42:18 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: 73 H/O

Hi, Charles. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. No Hurstolds ever came
with a 2bbl. You didnt specify if your car was an original ac car. If its an
ac car you can use the standard intake, carb off any 73-74 455 olds except a
toro. The air cleaner I believe to be the same for a 88 and 98 but I`m not
positive. I`m sorry I dont have the cast numbers for you right now. If by any
chance your car is an original nonair car, your going to have a hard time
finding the intake and aircleaner. The intake is special because it has the
PCV port in it. The aircleaner is a dual snorkal which has two air breathers,
one going to each of the valve covers, this is why the PCV port is in the
intake. these came on most  of the 4 speed motors. where are you from? stay in
touch. let me know.
dennis
w451973 

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:43:42 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: 73 H/O

sorry, the hood orniments should say oldsmobile. are in in the hurstolds club?
dennis

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:48:02 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

I agree with you I was expecting a 4-speed with console, Rally gauges, 
and a 4-barrel card  So they could play up the 4-4-2 aspects.  I loved 
seeing the car but I know that there are far better 68 442's to show.  
Even on this list I bet there are at least 5 better than that.


>I watched MCC on TNN today.  The 400, 442 featured was a very, very 
nice
>car.  However, I do have to protest in a way.  I am not saying that 
this
>Olds is not as good as any other but all I want to say is that most of 
the
>other cars they featured were not "economy" muscle cars.  440 6-pack 
with
>4.10 rear, 428 Cobra Jet Mustang, 396 Nova, etc. 



Yea this will further the Chevelle is all that attitude.  Because losers 
will now say that "I saw on TV that 442's have 2-barrel cards.  They are 
just fancy grandpa car" bullshit.  They usually so cars with Hemi's 
6-packs, 3-deuces, full blown muscle. But they show a turn-pike cruiser?  
How know's?  And Gage didn't even know to call it a turn-pike cruiser.  





 This 400 Cutlass was
>awesome, but a '70 W-30 would have been a better "contender" with the 
other
>cars mentioned.   but they should have featured more 2-bbl models from 
other
>companies or pick a W-30, 442 with no air and 3.91 rear.  The 2.56 has 
its
>pluses for sure.  Did love that car though.  The interior is great 
(especially that
>it is original), and the 400 sounded good.  No disrespect to this car, 
it
>really was great.  I guess I was just expecting a all-out-full-blown 
'68
>442.  I was expecting a 400 but not a 2-bbl, 2.56 rear and A/C.  This 
car
>was a cruiser, the other would have been haulers


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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:43:38 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Wipers

In a message dated 99-01-31 10:43:07 EST, you write:

<< the wipers on my 442 wont turn off they continue to run for about 5 minutes
then die of their own free will and accord it would seem that a relay is
sticking but
 there doesnt seem to be one the fact that they turn off on their own later
 yields a certain amount of puzzlement thought about a faulty ground or
 something like that but no soap could change the motor but would like to
 avoid that if possible not that it is difficult >>

Cannot address posible flaws, but can say that Karl is now using a wiper motor
from Supercars Unlimited (where 4 4 2 is all they do) and has no complaints as
to the wiper function... just gotta fix the washer fluid pump......

And actually, a relatively easy swap!

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:55:04 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: 15x10 Cragar SS rims

I've got that set of 15x10 Cragars that did not fit on my car.  They are in
good shape, but don't have a center-cap.  How much do you guys figure they
are worth.  They would fit a MOPAR I think (I don't know about FORD), as
they did not fit my Delta (5x5") and they did not fit my friends Cutlass
(5x4.75"), although they could bolt onto the smaller bolt pattern, they
could not sit on the axle nice.  So, how much should I ask for them.  Igor.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:58:34 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: MS Outlook Express v.1.5

It is olds related (in a way).  You know how the e-mail downloads into the
INBOX folder.  Since I have 3 e-mails and both my dad and my sister have
one, is there any way to set this program to download to another folder.  So
when I hit Send/Receive, my mail goes to "Igor's Folder" and the rest goes
somewhere else.  Thanks.  Both me and my sister are on lists, so it gets
frustrating.  I guess I could just use another program for my mail, but
don't really want to.  Igor.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:21:20 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Ebay: J-2 intake + carbs??

At this writing, there are 1 day and 4 hours left in the auction.

Off hand comments: 

primarily:Rear carb is differently weathered that front carb so possibly not a
correct end carb at rear.

Vacc linkage appears right but it is a bad angle for verification.

571145 is the right casting # for the intake, but the picture looks kinda like
the Chevvy intake....

just moved, or would look at mine.....

Good luck if interested.

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:39:20 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: header site

In a message dated 1/30/99 10:09:14 PM Central Standard Time,
sgibreal@nctc.net writes:

<< > Hey everybody. I found an excelent site about headers. These guys pull
 > no punches. It has alot and I mean alot of info on headers and header
 > design. It's a good (and long) read.
 >
 > Shane
 >
 > http://www.headersbyed.com/
  >>


Thanks for the link...I'll absorb the info like a sponge!

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:51:07 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

In a message dated 1/31/99 11:52:41 AM Central Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

<< I agree with you I was expecting a 4-speed with console, Rally gauges, 
 and a 4-barrel card  So they could play up the 4-4-2 aspects.  I loved 
 seeing the car but I know that there are far better 68 442's to show.  
 Even on this list I bet there are at least 5 better than that. >>


So, what ~DID~ 442 stand for in 68? 400c.i., 4 tires, and 2 doors?...hahaha!

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:07:05 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE Olds related.....!

<<<You see, I bought this car about a year ago with the reasoning that I'll
give it to my son some day. He'll be two this February. [So I have some time
to enjoy it before he starts wanting the keys]
Well anyway, at some point when he was learning to walk, someone at daycare
nicknamed him "Bruiser".>>

Don't jump the green light.
That one will prolly not last.
I only use ~"Karl Monster"~ because it was used on separate occasions by
friends who did NOT know each other. (Eerie, huh?)

Seriously, "bruiser" will be a distant memory by the early teens. Other
characteristics will materialize then.......

But that is for you as a parent to cope with..... good luck!

And now for some replies to threads that made it to the digest!

Per Olds digest #1726 and following....

Thanks Steve, but no thanks!
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Then Dave chimed in;

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<DIV>Dave,</DIV>
<DIV>I can sympathize.&nbsp; When I bought my 68 it had just had the=20
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ICQ#=20
19113713
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parts for=20
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What?
You didn't feel like going through all that garbage?
Guess what?
That was from a single digest!

Amazing what some Oldsmoholics will put up with!

#1) use plain text, always

#2) NO attachments (of any kind!!) [especially pictures]

And if this was particularly grating, then it was probably just an
hallucination.

And no this note was not meant kindly,  the digest has been getting nuked in
this fasion for EVER. No-one should have to put up with this.

Most of this waas copied from digests before Karl fled back to real-time.

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:09:58 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

We can email them on their page, myclassiccar.com, and tell them how we
feel about the not exactly fair comparison. Maybe a list member near
them could show their car.  If enough of us asked for it, maybe it will
happen.  Not trying to start a mass bombing of flaming emails, just a
thought.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:20:53 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

Plus, I did not like Denis's response when she mashed the throttle.  "Oh,
yeah, you can sort of feel that bottom end torque".  Please don't tell me
that 2-bbl and 2.56 is very, very impressive.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:41:08 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

Yes I thought the same. Why not feature the pinnacle of the 442, a 1970 442
W-30? They do that with the other makes. I like the part where they slow to
a stop and he asks the lady driver to get on it and you here a little tire
squeal. It appears as though she was shifting the automatic in manual mode.
Anyway, I think if they featured a 70 442 W-30 (conv't or hardtop) that
would do more justice to the people watching. This would show them that
Olds was a serious contender in the muscle car race. 
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: blue442@webtv.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 2:09 PM
> 
> We can email them on their page, myclassiccar.com, and tell them how we
> feel about the not exactly fair comparison. Maybe a list member near
> them could show their car.  If enough of us asked for it, maybe it will
> happen.  Not trying to start a mass bombing of flaming emails, just a
> thought.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:53:36 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Olds on TV

The My Classic Car episode did contain a dissappoiinting choice of 442's, but
at least they had an Olds on for a change.  And you must admit, it was in
beautiful shape.  The previews for next week's Horsepower TV showed a viking
blue W30 coming off the line with the front wheels up in the air.  Hopefully
that one will be more impressive!

Scott
71 442 Conv. 

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:59:58 -0500
From: "Andersons" <robertan@cfw.com>
Subject: Re: Wipers

I ran into this once before on another (unmentionable) GM car.  It seems
that on some wiper motors, there is a switch inside the motor that keeps the
power on the motor until it can cycle into "park" (so when you shut them off
at the dash, they will not remain up in the middle of the windsheild).  It's
possible for this switch to fail, intermittently, where it will turn itself
on when hitting bumps, or otherwise unexpectedly.  The only fix is wiper
motor replacement.
- -----Original Message-----
From: KarlAune@aol.com <KarlAune@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Wipers


>In a message dated 99-01-31 10:43:07 EST, you write:
>
><< the wipers on my 442 wont turn off they continue to run for about 5
minutes
>then die of their own free will and accord it would seem that a relay is
>sticking but
> there doesnt seem to be one the fact that they turn off on their own later
> yields a certain amount of puzzlement thought about a faulty ground or
> something like that but no soap could change the motor but would like to
> avoid that if possible not that it is difficult >>
>
>Cannot address posible flaws, but can say that Karl is now using a wiper
motor
>from Supercars Unlimited (where 4 4 2 is all they do) and has no complaints
as
>to the wiper function... just gotta fix the washer fluid pump......
>
>And actually, a relatively easy swap!
>
>SOM
>
>&KA
>

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:00:18 -0500
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: Olds on TV

While the blue w-30 wheels up looked cool.. the white late model rustang
(wheels wayy up) pulling 2-3 car lengths on the w-30 before mid track
didn't.. yuck


>The My Classic Car episode did contain a dissappoiinting choice of 442's,
but
>at least they had an Olds on for a change.  And you must admit, it was in
>beautiful shape.  The previews for next week's Horsepower TV showed a
viking
>blue W30 coming off the line with the front wheels up in the air.
Hopefully
>that one will be more impressive!
>
>Scott
>71 442 Conv.
>

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:08:00 EST
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

<< I agree with you I was expecting a 4-speed with console, Rally gauges, 
 and a 4-barrel card  So they could play up the 4-4-2 aspects.  I loved 
 seeing the car but I know that there are far better 68 442's to show.  
 Even on this list I bet there are at least 5 better than that.
  >>

i agree too, but in my oponion it was jsut nice seeing an olds being featured
on a show that made me happy. sure they could've pick a more rare or powerful
car but i just liked seeing a 442.

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:11:17 EST
From: DrkSole96@aol.com
Subject: 20k 72 Olds 98

Hi, I was looking through the used car lot at a local Chevy dealership,
actually I made the trip to check out a 75 Ranchero they had for sale, and
parked next to it was an immaculate 72 Olds 98 2dr.  Red with painted black
top, original rear tires, black velour interior...  about as close to showroom
new as you can get. The tag they had in the window stated it was an estate car
with only 20k miles on the odometer. Priced at $4950.  
Car's at Underdahl Chevrolet in Indianola, IA.

DrkSole96@aol.com
73 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:54:13 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds on TV

Hey Ken, I was so busy looking at the W, I didn't even notice what it was
running against. Maybe I won't watch after all.... OR, maybe the W will catch
em...

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:22:07 -0600
From: "72Hurst" <72hurst@net-email.com>
Subject: OAI Foam

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I just received my "new" OAI Air Cleaner topper and the foam came =
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the other 3 sides are the natural foam. Does the black edge get glued =
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Thanks All,

John Kreitzer  =20
72hurst@net-email.com

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:39:26 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: haven't forgotten

THis is just to let everyone know that those who put in junkyard
requests last weekend have not been forgotten.

Last weekend when I went yarding I had a few people ask me to look for
things for them, but this weekend I took a much needed mini-vacation. 
Next weekend will definitely be for junkyards, if it's not raining.  I
saved all the original messages and will get back to you around midweek
to see if these requests still stand, and will be on the lookout when I
go (hopefully Saturday)
Brian.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:43:04 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: 72 HURSTOLDS poster

hello, all of you 72 HURSTOLDS owners. I have a ? about an original dealer
wall poster of a 72 hardtop pacecar. I`ve recently aquired one from a guy who
used to work at an olds dealership in the late 60`s and early 70`s. He`s had
since they took it off the wall in 72. It`s not perfect by no means, but very
presentable. It`s about 30 by 36. Its missing about 1 square inch off each
corner from where somebody cut it from the wall. What do you think its worth?
Someone has offered me some good money for it, but I don`t know what it`s
worth. thanks.   dennis     w451973

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:54:58 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: OAI Foam

John,
The black glossy side goes up to mate with the hood screen (won't stick to
it). Yeah, the weatherstrip stuff will work fine...
Scott

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:58:11 -0600
From: "72Hurst" <72hurst@net-email.com>
Subject: Re: OAI Foam

Great, 
Thats the information I was looking for.
Thanks again,

John Kreitzer   
72hurst@net-email.com


>John,
>The black glossy side goes up to mate with the hood screen (won't stick to
>it). Yeah, the weatherstrip stuff will work fine...
>Scott

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:01:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Olds in New Commercial

I had one eye on the TV today and caught a commercial for something
(Texaco? Nascar? Not sure...) that talked about drivers who had bad luck
at Daytona. They had the Allison brothers talking about how they lost
races there in the last laps, and then they had David Pearson saying
(tongue in cheek) "that's where my girlfriend left me... I sure do miss
that car...." with the car in question being a '70 Cutlass or 4-4-2
convertible! Neat commercial.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:21:48 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

Have a 67 442, all orig, narrow white walls and all. They could have
called, gimme about 15 min with that guy and his ugly mustache would be
drooping right now!
Master Lou
lbiggs@intertek.net
PS My trunk is all orig, lining and tire cover. Watched it all the way thru
though, I'm easy.

- ----------
> From: GT5726@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

> So, what ~DID~ 442 stand for in 68? 400c.i., 4 tires, and 2
doors?...hahaha!

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:23:45 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE Olds 
related.....!

K:
Thanks for sharing that with us.
Lou
PS I know SOM didn't type that one.
- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE Olds
related.....!
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 2:07 PM

------------------------------


Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:25:07 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

Igor:
Like a wet sponge.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Igor T. '81 DRB 455 <igor455@home.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 2:20 PM
> 
> Plus, I did not like Denis's response when she mashed the throttle.  "Oh,
> yeah, you can sort of feel that bottom end torque".  Please don't tell me
> that 2-bbl and 2.56 is very, very impressive.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:29:59 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak <jspajak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster

W451973@aol.com wrote:
hello, all of you 72 HURSTOLDS owners. I have a ? about an original
dealer wall poster of a 72 hardtop pacecar. I`ve recently aquired one
from a guy who used to work at an olds dealership in the late 60`s and
early 70`s. He`s had since they took it off the wall in 72. It`s not
perfect by no means, but very presentable. It`s about 30 by 36.

**********
     Before you sell it, please take a picture and post it on the web
somewhere. That way we all can enjoy it!!
As far as value goes, I wouldn't sell it just yet. It might just be
worth more than you think!
 
==
"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2"

John Pajak
Lexington Park, Maryland

Check out our cars, trucks and a whole lot more at
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:30:30 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bench to Buckets Swap????????

you will need the mounting for the inside portion of each seat. Year One makes
a Bracket that welds to the floor. this bracket has the studs already on so
all you have to do is weld it to the floor and bolt your seats to it. This is
the same bracket i used in my '67 cutlass to switch from bench to buckets.

If i remember correctly the bracket cost was about $25.00  You could probably
make them yourself if you have the tools available to you.

Richard
Cutlass442@aol.com
1967 "Oldsmobuick" Cutlass

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:34:45 EST
From: StepHydro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds in New Commercial

How about the car at the front of the new Taco Bell commercial...the one where
the police have a guy cornered "Drop the chalupa!"?? Is that a 46 or so Olds
in front of the building right at the beginning?

Cheers/|Carron

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:44:38 EST
From: StepHydro@aol.com
Subject: Specific vacuum question...68 Toro

OK,

No one has a scanned vacuum diagram for this car, I think. Here is my
particular question.

The vacuum system has been disconnected and somewhat plugged, and I have to
operate the doors by hand. Unfortunately, the headlight doors drop of their
own accord. This is rated as a "Safety" issue. :-)

There are two large hoses coming fron the actuator to (I believe) the large
vacuum tank near the left side of the radiator. From that tank to the engine
somewhere there is a large hose with a small valve in it. There are three
small hoses, coming, I think, from the headlght switch. I believe that I can
take the tank out and fighre how to route the two actuator hoses. I don't
think I can suss out the three little ones coming from the firewall. I have
three hoses, and only one connector that fits (the one on the little valve.
The three hoses have tracers on them, red, blue, and green.

Does anyone know where these three hoses are supposed to connect?

Will you tell me?

Cheers/Carron

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:56:34 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: OAI Foam

John

        The black part goes to the outside, not glued down. The top back and
bottom are open foam.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts


At 05:22 PM 1/31/99 , you wrote: 
>
> Hey all, 
>  
> I just received my "new" OAI Air Cleaner topper and the foam came separately.
> My question is, the foam has a black coating on one edge, the other 3 sides
> are the natural foam. Does the black edge get glued down, or does it go up to
> mate with the hood? I was going to use a black weather-strip adhesive to glue
> it down with, would that work?
>  
> Thanks All,
>  
> John Kreitzer   
> <mailto:72hurst@net-email.com>72hurst@net-email.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:09:28 -0500
From: "C Thomas" <cthomas@stny.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: OAI Foam

Can someone tell me where I can get a Chrome air cleaner for a rochester 2
Barrel carb it has kind of a oval shaped base or will an air cleaner with a
round base fit it . And for my second Question___ How do I take the window
molding off from the rear window on my 85 442 IM sure I have all the tools
for the job but where do I start ? Thanx in advance
Chad Thomas
www.442.com/cthomas.html
1985 Cutlass Iroc-SS
1964 Jetstar 88

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:14:17 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: tranny lines and disc brakes

I know everyone is watching the game, but if you have a minute I have two
questions.

For the G-body guys: Are the tranny cooler lines for the 200-c and the
200-r4 bent the same?  Are the fittings for the lines in the same location
on both trannies?  I'm slowly putting the finishing touches on my Cutlass
and want to be prepared when I get to that part.

Second question:  I put my new 12" disc rotors on the Cutlass today.  They
probably won't be used for a couple of weeks.  Is there anything I could put
on them to keep them from rusting while it's just sitting there?  How about
WD-40 or silicone spray?  Will it damage the discs?

Thanks,

Bill Reilly
mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
Web Page: (Not yet)

My Garage:
'83 Cutlass Ciera
'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
'85 Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:38:32 -0600
From: <barbw@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Bondurant School Uses Olds!

I didnt see the program (dont have cable) but, not that anyone cares, I live
about 5 minutes from the Bondurant School of High Performance Driving.  A
friend of mine in Chicago won the Illinois lottery a few years ago.  He was
interested in taking a high performance driving class over there and asked me
to get the information about the different packages offered by Bondurant (for
which he'd get a driving package for me too).  The best deal for the money
was the 3 day package.  He decided not to do it at all because it was too
much money!!  I was really looking forward to that class and was most
disappointed that the plans never materialized.  I guess winning millions of
dollars sometimes does strange things to people.

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> I saw this program on TLC last night, the Secret World of Automobiles.
> They had a segment on the Bondurant School of Performance Driving, with
> Steve Miller, the rock guitarist, as student. They use Mustangs for the
> high speed stuff, but he seems to have a fleet of '77-'79 Deltas and 98s
> to use in the heavy-duty anti-terrorist parts of the curriculum... how to
> spin another car off the road, to nudge a roadblocking vehicle out of the
> way, etc. It was no contest when the senior series took on a Honda!
>
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:55:28 -0500
From: Rebel1 <rebel1@raex.com>
Subject: Re: tranny lines and disc brakes

Bill,
    Do NOT put any type of rust preventative on the disks - it will become
embedded in the pads during first use and will glaze over your rotors!  This
will in turn lead to poor braking performance and excess heat build up which
will warp the rotors!  If they get a little surface rust on them it won't
hurt...
Hope this helps!
Todd Daenzer
All the toys put away for the winter...
As a side note I clean all breaking surfaces with electric motor cleaner prior
to use to insure that there is no oil on there!

Bill Reilly wrote:

> I know everyone is watching the game, but if you have a minute I have two
> questions.
>
> For the G-body guys: Are the tranny cooler lines for the 200-c and the
> 200-r4 bent the same?  Are the fittings for the lines in the same location
> on both trannies?  I'm slowly putting the finishing touches on my Cutlass
> and want to be prepared when I get to that part.
>
> Second question:  I put my new 12" disc rotors on the Cutlass today.  They
> probably won't be used for a couple of weeks.  Is there anything I could put
> on them to keep them from rusting while it's just sitting there?  How about
> WD-40 or silicone spray?  Will it damage the discs?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Reilly
> mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
> Web Page: (Not yet)
>
> My Garage:
> '83 Cutlass Ciera
> '84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
> '85 Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:05:40 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: 72 HURSTOLDS poster

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of John Pajak
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 1999 6:30 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster
>      Before you sell it, please take a picture and post it on the web
> somewhere. That way we all can enjoy it!!
> As far as value goes, I wouldn't sell it just yet. It might just be
> worth more than you think!


I absolutely agree. Chances are that buyer you mentioned has a buyer'(s)
willing to go a lot higher than he quoted you. Do snap a shot for the web.
Besides that might net you others interested in the item.

- -----Regards,

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Couse Custom's

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:06:47 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: OAI Foam

If I remember correctly, the flush mount rear quarter glalss on the '81 and
up 2 door G bodies has the chrome trim as part of the window assembly.  G
body guys??  Brad Nicholson??
Regards,
Fred

- -----Original Message-----
From: C Thomas <cthomas@stny.lrun.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: OAI Foam


>Can someone tell me where I can get a Chrome air cleaner for a rochester 2
>Barrel carb it has kind of a oval shaped base or will an air cleaner with a
>round base fit it . And for my second Question___ How do I take the window
>molding off from the rear window on my 85 442 IM sure I have all the tools
>for the job but where do I start ? Thanx in advance
>Chad Thomas
>www.442.com/cthomas.html
>1985 Cutlass Iroc-SS
>1964 Jetstar 88
>
>

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:09:12 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: tranny lines and disc brakes

Put anything you want on the discs, WD 40, oil, vaseline.  Just be sure to
clean it off with cab cleaner or brakeclean before installing the pads.  DO
NOT get it on the pads, while the rotors are not absorbent, the pads are.
Regards,
Fred

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Reilly <wjreilly@erols.com>
To: Olds G Body <olds_gbody@listbot.com>; G Body Org <gbody@listbot.com>;
oldsmobile <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 7:12 PM
Subject: tranny lines and disc brakes


>I know everyone is watching the game, but if you have a minute I have two
>questions.
>
>For the G-body guys: Are the tranny cooler lines for the 200-c and the
>200-r4 bent the same?  Are the fittings for the lines in the same location
>on both trannies?  I'm slowly putting the finishing touches on my Cutlass
>and want to be prepared when I get to that part.
>
>Second question:  I put my new 12" disc rotors on the Cutlass today.  They
>probably won't be used for a couple of weeks.  Is there anything I could
put
>on them to keep them from rusting while it's just sitting there?  How about
>WD-40 or silicone spray?  Will it damage the discs?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill Reilly
>mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
>Web Page: (Not yet)
>
>My Garage:
>'83 Cutlass Ciera
>'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
>'85 Cutlass Supreme
>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:09:52 -0600
From: Shang <shang@connect.net>
Subject: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home.

Hey List,

	I just picked up a rebuilt 455 that had a Comp Cams 305H cam and
matching Comp Cams Magnum lifters in it. The cam was lubed up and
installed, but the motor was never fired, so this cam/lifters is brand
new unused. I simply cannot use a cam this large in my application, but
it seems like a waste to junk it. I have the cam, lifters, and a high
energy series timing chain I'll sell to anyone who wants a big nasty cam
for their Olds for $50 + shipping.

The numbers on this cam are: 253deg@.050 lift & .540 lift.

Respond to me privately if you are interested.

Thanks 

Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:18:52 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: tranny lines and disc brakes

Hi Bill,
  I wouldn't put any oil or silicone on the rotors for fear of contaminating
the pads. Besides the rotors will be polished nicely upon first use of the
brakes. TTYL,
Gene


>
>Second question:  I put my new 12" disc rotors on the Cutlass today.  They
>probably won't be used for a couple of weeks.  Is there anything I could put
>on them to keep them from rusting while it's just sitting there?  How about
>WD-40 or silicone spray?  Will it damage the discs?

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:36:19 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster

thanks, guys. only problem is-I dont have any way of scanning it, or even a
picture of it. I dont really want to sell it, but I could use the money for my
project.    dennis 

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:58:48 -0500
From: "C Thomas" <cthomas@stny.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster

If you want to get the most out of it put it for sale on ebay. a lot of
Oldsmobile stuff goes thru their everyday
like hard to find stuff www.ebay.com
Later
Chad Thomas
www.442.com/cthomas.html
- -----Original Message-----
From: W451973@aol.com <W451973@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: 72 HURSTOLDS poster


>thanks, guys. only problem is-I dont have any way of scanning it, or even a
>picture of it. I dont really want to sell it, but I could use the money for
my
>project.    dennis

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:42:15 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Performer 455

One thing to keep in mind is in your quest for better handling, that taking
wieght off the front of the car is as good as adding wieght to the rear as
far as weight transfer goes.  The aluminum intake would give you a
huge weight benefit and would be a key step in moving weight from the
nose to the rear, if your truly serious in trying to acheive off the line
traction.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/



>I just checked the FAQ and it says there that the Edelbrock Performer is
>good in terms of weight-saving, but not that much improvement over the
stock
>intake.  I have a '70 442 intake (non-EGR) and I found a Performer in the
>local paper.  It says "never used" and it is not cheap but significantly
>cheaper then new.  I am wondering weather to get it or not, but would not
>want it if it gave little or none performance difference.  For you guys
with
>this intake, is it worth it.  New (here in Canada), it costs $429.  This
guy
>is asking $300 and I think I would take it for $250 or so.  Is it worth it
>or not?  Any difference at all, how much and where.  Thanks.  Igor.
>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:09:55 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds in New Commercial

In a message dated 1/31/99 6:04:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ab348@chebucto.ns.ca writes:

<< I had one eye on the TV today and caught a commercial for something
 (Texaco? Nascar? Not sure...) that talked about drivers who had bad luck
 at Daytona. They had the Allison brothers talking about how they lost
 races there in the last laps, and then they had David Pearson saying
 (tongue in cheek) "that's where my girlfriend left me... I sure do miss
 that car...." with the car in question being a '70 Cutlass or 4-4-2
 convertible! Neat commercial.
  >>
 It's a VISA credit card commercial, talking about the Daytona 500.  You know,
how only VISA is accepted there.  Was real cool at the end when I thought it
was a Cutlass.  I replayed it in slo-mo and sure enough it was.  

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 07:53:05 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Wipers

you must be new as most here already know my feelings on the subject of
punctuation the car is a 69 (comma) with rotary switch also have a spare one
of those (comma) but weather still sucks (period) And the motor is easier
than the switch to replace (exclamation point) provided all I want to do is
trouble shoot the problem(row of periods) kk thanx for the input
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Wipers


>At 06:55 PM 5/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>well this may seem funny because I'm laughing my butt off but the wipers
on
>>my 442 wont turn off they continue to run for about 5 minutes then die of
>>their own free will and accord it would seem that a relay is sticking but
>>there doesnt seem to be one the fact that they turn off on their own later
>>yields a certain amount of puzzlement thought about a faulty ground or
>>something like that but no soap could change the motor but would like to
>>avoid that if possible not that it is difficult but it is pretty wet and
>>cold out and the shop is occupied with another project any ideas?
>
>
>Yeah, use some punctuation! It may not fix your wiper problem but your
notes
>will be easier to read :-) But seriously, what year is your car? Perhaps
the
>switch is bad?
>TTYL,
>Gene
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:44:32 -0600
From: C K <bloom9@juno.com>
Subject: [none]

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:47:35 PST
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home.

I would like to buy your cam.i could not "Respond privately "I don't 
have you address.

Thanks
>

>Hey List,
>
>	I just picked up a rebuilt 455 that had a Comp Cams 305H cam and
>matching Comp Cams Magnum lifters in it. The cam was lubed up and
>installed, but the motor was never fired, so this cam/lifters is brand
>new unused. I simply cannot use a cam this large in my application, but
>it seems like a waste to junk it. I have the cam, lifters, and a high
>energy series timing chain I'll sell to anyone who wants a big nasty 
cam
>for their Olds for $50 + shipping.
>
>The numbers on this cam are: 253deg@.050 lift & .540 lift.
>
>Respond to me privately if you are interested.
>
>Thanks 
>
>Stephen Hoover
>Dallas, Texas
>'70 Supreme
>



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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:49:58 EST
From: DrkSole96@aol.com
Subject: 73 C Supreme stripe

I got my package of info back from the Olds History Center, according to them,
my car originally came painted Moss Gold with a beige stripe.  The car was
repainted red before I purchased it, but I am going to have it repainted after
the rust on the car is fixed up.  Anyway, I've looked through all the 73 sales
brochure I have, looked through the assembly manual, and watched all the 73
commercials, and the only Olds I saw with a stripe, other than the 442-H/O was
the Omega, which had a 1-2"stripe running along the upper edge of the fenders
to the rear quarters.  Is this what the stripe on the Cutlass Supreme would've
looked like?  I think it's pretty snazzy, and'll probably have it put on my
car anyway, but I'd like to know if this is what the original looked like.
Thanks,
DrkSole96@aol.com
73 Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:57:57 EST
From: Oldsfire@aol.com
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Performer 455

Igor, the edelbrock performer is a very good manifold,  work much better on my
66 425 than the stock cast iron one.  That price is high but it may be ok for
Canada!!1

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:36:31 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak <jspajak@yahoo.com>
Subject: More Work!

     Well, after a successful time replacing instrument panel bulbs
(except for the console for now) on the 87 442, I replaced the
heater/AC control bulb on Mom's 86 Supreme Brougham. No problem.
     But, I did check under the hood and found that the intake gasket
is LEAKING COOLANT, right at the juncture of the head and the intake,
at the passenger side front. It's a 307 Y motor with about 95K miles...
     I had the same problem on the my 70 442 W30 which also has a
factory aluminum intake (of course!). The steel gasket just corroded
away around the water passages! I wonder if electrolysis between the
steel gasket and the aluminum manifold causes this problem? BTW I have
never had an intake gasket fail on an Olds engine with a cast iron
intake!
     QUESTION: which way should I go on this gasket replacement?
1) Use the stock steel 'turkey tray' gasket.
2) Use composition gaskets and trim the tray part off of the original
gasket and stuff it under the intake so I still have the heat
dissipating qualities under the intake?
     I used option (2) on the 70 W30; however whn I put the rebuilt
307 in my 86 I used option (1)
     Thoughts?

==
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Lexington Park, Maryland

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 01:00:22 -0800
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: tranny lines and disc brakes

Bill Reilly wrote:
> 
> I know everyone is watching the game, but if you have a minute I have two
> questions.
> 
> For the G-body guys: Are the tranny cooler lines for the 200-c and the
> 200-r4 bent the same? 

FWIW I swapped a 2004R in place of the TH375 in my Vista Cruiser and the
cooling lines went in pretty easily.  They may have needed slight
re-bending but nothing like ~some~ cooling lines I've fought before.  As
far as I can tell all the Hydra-Matics had the cooling lines in
basically the same location.
 
> Second question:  I put my new 12" disc rotors on the Cutlass today.  They
> probably won't be used for a couple of weeks.  Is there anything I could put
> on them to keep them from rusting while it's just sitting there?  How about
> WD-40 or silicone spray?  Will it damage the discs?

A couple of weeks?  I don't think it's anything to worry about.  Rotors
rust all the time, after a few stops the pads buff them clean.  In my
experience they clean up pretty quickly just from use.  I've never read
an owners manual that says anything special should be done to brake
disks if the car is going to sit for any legnth of time.  If they're new
they probably already have an anti-corrosion coating....Otherwise they'd
rust in the box on the parts store shelf.

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: 31 Jan 99 22:55:46 MST
From: RSTOMN <restoman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [More Work!]

oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca wrote:
     Well, after a successful time replacing instrument panel bulbs
(except for the console for now) on the 87 442, I replaced the
heater/AC control bulb on Mom's 86 Supreme Brougham. No problem.
     But, I did check under the hood and found that the intake gasket
is LEAKING COOLANT, right at the juncture of the head and the intake,
at the passenger side front. It's a 307 Y motor with about 95K miles...
     I had the same problem on the my 70 442 W30 which also has a
factory aluminum intake (of course!). The steel gasket just corroded
away around the water passages! I wonder if electrolysis between the
steel gasket and the aluminum manifold causes this problem? BTW I have
never had an intake gasket fail on an Olds engine with a cast iron
intake!
     QUESTION: which way should I go on this gasket replacement?
1) Use the stock steel 'turkey tray' gasket.
2) Use composition gaskets and trim the tray part off of the original
gasket and stuff it under the intake so I still have the heat
dissipating qualities under the intake?
     I used option (2) on the 70 W30; however whn I put the rebuilt
307 in my 86 I used option (1)
     Thoughts?

==
"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2"

John Pajak
Lexington Park, Maryland

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Stock gasket,fresh-antifreeze+plenty of corrosion
inhibiter works.Also re-torque intake bolts every
so often and make sure all mating surfaces are not
warped or corroded. Thread sealer on the bolts too.
I've had w-30 intake leak in the same area to but
that was after 15 years!




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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 00:59:15 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: More Work!

John

        The ONLY way to go with the aluminum intakes are the composite gaskets.
You have yourself a real good battery with 3 different metals using the turkey
tray.

Jim Chermack

At 12:36 AM 2/1/99 , you wrote:
>     Well, after a successful time replacing instrument panel bulbs
>(except for the console for now) on the 87 442, I replaced the
>heater/AC control bulb on Mom's 86 Supreme Brougham. No problem.
>     But, I did check under the hood and found that the intake gasket
>is LEAKING COOLANT, right at the juncture of the head and the intake,
>at the passenger side front. It's a 307 Y motor with about 95K miles...
>     I had the same problem on the my 70 442 W30 which also has a
>factory aluminum intake (of course!). The steel gasket just corroded
>away around the water passages! I wonder if electrolysis between the
>steel gasket and the aluminum manifold causes this problem? BTW I have
>never had an intake gasket fail on an Olds engine with a cast iron
>intake!
>     QUESTION: which way should I go on this gasket replacement?
>1) Use the stock steel 'turkey tray' gasket.
>2) Use composition gaskets and trim the tray part off of the original
>gasket and stuff it under the intake so I still have the heat
>dissipating qualities under the intake?
>     I used option (2) on the 70 W30; however whn I put the rebuilt
>307 in my 86 I used option (1)
>     Thoughts?
>
>==
>"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2"
>
>John Pajak
>Lexington Park, Maryland
>
>Check out our cars, trucks and a whole lot more at
>http://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:35:01 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Olds in New Commercial

Was wondering what lucky dog that belonged too.  Nice commercial:-)  Now if
they'd just have mentioned it was an Oldsmobile!!


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

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Vista Cruiser, '80 GMC 1/2 Ton

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:19:31 -0800 (PST)
From: "R. Coons" <rcoons@u.washington.edu>
Subject: 69-72 Convertible Frame Interchange

	I am contemplating replacing the frame on my 1972 convertible.  
The car spent half its life in the snow belt and is suffering the
consequences. I didn't realize how bad it was until this weekend.  I was
under the car changing the oil, and I noticed a bulge on the bottom of the
frame rail about six inches behind the front wheel.  I pushed on it with
my thumb and made a nice 1" hole in the frame!  I spit out the rust, got a
beer, went online and found a decent 1969 convertible frame for sale in my
area.  So, can anyone tell me if the 1969 frame a direct swap with the
1972?  If not, what year frames will interchange with a 1972 convertible?

Thanks

Greg Coons
1972 Cutlass Convertible
1972 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:28:00 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: 69-72 Convertible Frame Interchange

In a message dated 1/31/99 11:20:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rcoons@u.washington.edu writes:

<< I am contemplating replacing the frame on my 1972 convertible.  
 The car spent half its life in the snow belt and is suffering the
 consequences. I didn't realize how bad it was until this weekend.  I was
 under the car changing the oil, and I noticed a bulge on the bottom of the
 frame rail about six inches behind the front wheel.  I pushed on it with
 my thumb and made a nice 1" hole in the frame!  I spit out the rust, got a
 beer, went online and found a decent 1969 convertible frame for sale in my
 area.  So, can anyone tell me if the 1969 frame a direct swap with the
 1972?  If not, what year frames will interchange with a 1972 convertible?
 
 Thanks >>

     Greg, according to Hollanders, Olds F-85 frames from=68 (conv), 69, 70
(conv), and 71-72 are exact interchanges, along with Buicks and Tempests of
the same years. All 2 doors of course. Dorian

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:32:04 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: 69-72 Convertible Frame Interchange

And Chevelle COnvert, Frames are the same. GM used the same frame for all A
bodies, thats why they are all A bodys. They also have many other exhangeable
parts (mainly suspension). 
Kelly Erickson
1966 Cutlass
1954 Super 88
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/Olds442z/

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 01:43:37 -0600
From: <shang@connect.net>
Subject: Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home. + Performer intake FS

That'll teach me to post things I thought no one would want and then go
to bed. :) 8 responses total and 3 of them were within 15 minutes of my
original post. I'll never figure you guys out, and I love it! :) Gene
Gatti "won" as his response had the earliest timestamp on it, but thanks
to all that responded. :) 


Hmmm, maybe I'm on to something here....anyone want to buy a Performer
intake for small-block? Less than 500 miles of use and hasn't been
modified at all. $100 + shipping :)


Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Supreme + a nice new 455 ;)
.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:44:32 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home. + Performer intake FS

I would like to buy it, but I'm buying a HOlley Intake form Ken Snyder, sorry.
I might buy a RPM later, if you have one, lmao
Kelly Erickson
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/Olds442z

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:46:25 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Comp Cams 305H needs a new home. + Performer intake FS

But the cam, what is it?

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