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oldsmobile-digest      Tuesday, February 2 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1747



Re: Radio in! (Wires)
test
Re: So Sayeth the Lord!  (Was Re: Non olds related)
Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.
Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild
Re: Bondurant School Uses Olds!
Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild
Advice
Re: Wipers
Re: More Work!
Re: More Work!
Re: Radio in!
Re: My Classic Car Olds
RE: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.
Re: Advice
head gaskets and oil ring bite the dust
Re: Radio in!
Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild
Re: Radio in!
Re: Wipers
Repro OAI Hood
Re: Bile was: How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE Olds 
related.....!
Re: Caravan to Dallas was: My Classic Car Olds
Re: Repro OAI Hood
Power Antenna Problem
Re: Repro OAI Hood
73 Cutlass Supreme stripe
Re: Repro OAI Hood
test
Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild
Re: Repro OAI Hood/1972 Cutlass
UNBOUNCE: Power Antenna Problem
Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.
Re: Advice
Re: who to trust
Re: Pot metal repair/plating
Victor Olds Intake
interior use question 
Performance improvements of 1 vs 3 angle valve job.
Re: 73 Cutlass Supreme stripe
Re: interior use question
Olds History Center
Re: Advice
Re: tranny lines and disc brakes
Re: Repro OAI Hood
Re: Olds History Center
Interchanging Crankshaft
Re: Caravan to Dallas was: My Classic Car Olds
2 convertible for parts or whole
Re: Olds History Center
Re: J-2 intakes
Re: One Boxed Ctrl Arm (1970)
Re: interior use question 
US body Source (was Re: Repro OAI Hood)
[none]
Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.
bucket seat base
Thank you.
Re: olds history center
Re: J-2 intakes
Re: J-2 intakes
Re: Interchanging Crankshaft
Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.
RE: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.
Re: Repro OAI Hood
Re: 73 stipes
unsubcribe
68 Cutlass Supreme (Was Re: Horsepower TV)

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:12:59 -0600
From: Eric <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Radio in! (Wires)

On the wiring, more than likely you're new player needs memory (always
live) and switched (on igntion/acc) power. Unfortunately, most need both
power sources to make noise.  I like to use the power for the cigarette
lighter, as it's facotry, fused, and right below the stereo, and easy
way to grab constant live power for your newer stereo (isn't it cool how
much smaller they are now?)  The factory AM radios didn't need memory,
and have no always live wire for you to use.

On oldies, of all the old discs I have (70+, even though they're older
than me), you never get those Tunes on AM anyways......  At least not
here....

Eric
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/copper.shtml  <-- Recent new stereo as well,
and LOVING it


Darren King wrote:
> 
> I managed to get a cheap am/fm cassette unit for free so
> I set out to install this baby in the 79 Cutlass Salon.
> Unfortunately, when I removed the AM radio, I found that
> someone had done some home wiring so there was no
> harness or 'plug' connector.  So I set out to do some splicing.
> After I hooked up the wires, I found that I had power to the
> unit as the lights would come on but I couldn't make the tape
> play or fast forward.  I went to look at how it was wired up in
> my truck and I noticed that someone had run a wire directly
> from the fuse block to the radio.  So I pulled this wire out and
> tried it in the Cutlass and it worked!
> 
> I don't really understand why it worked...all I know is I don't have
> to listen to am oldies anymore...yeah!  Does this sound right?
> I figured that the wires to the am radio wouldn't be enough to
> power the tape player.
> 
> Darren King

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:18:30 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: test

Ignore this
Sorry if I had stuff bouncing around.  Not sure what happened...

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:19:54 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: So Sayeth the Lord!  (Was Re: Non olds related)

>> <<  Laws of physics prohibit Donkeys to be faster than 442's. It's in the
>> bible. >>
>  ^^^^^
>Must be in the OLDS Testament, eh?

DOH! <g>
________________________________________________
Bob Barry  	    MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels/

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:38:08 -0500
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@pa.net>
Subject: Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.

I would like a site for buyers and sellers on the list.
I know Bryceman and other's available ... but I 
always seach the list first. 

Ken Swick
swickka@pa.net

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:54:28 EST
From: Oldsfire@aol.com
Subject: Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild

Its time to go thru it again.  And maybe the tranny to!!

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:48:47 EST
From: R4C442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bondurant School Uses Olds!

Hi Barb!
    I'm a graduate of Bondurant (Oct. of 92) School and I can say only that
the money meant absolutely nothing compared to the RUSH!
                                                                    Ron Forsee
                                                                    65
442-Meister

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:01:16 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild

Chris Fair wrote:
> 
> Olds heads,
> I'm in need of your advice. I'm thinking about whether it's time to redo the
> 455 in my 98 in time for Summer99.
> 
> What's wrong:
> <snip> I'm suspicious that this rattle is more serious than the rocker 
> pedastel and might leave me stranded somewhere. So I'm not driving it much.

If you are worried enough that you're not driving it then that's a real
problem.  I would pull the covers and find the suspect pedestals/push rods and
replace them.  It is dead easy, cheap, and then you would know how much of the
noise is from the valvetrain.  If you do need to rebuild the whole shebang then
you would end up paying for these parts anyways.

> I can replace a worn pedastel, but with the other various problems it brings
> up the question of whether it's just time to go through it once again.
> 
> I'm kind of leaning in the rebuild direction, but wanted your thoughts on
> the +'s and -'s. I have never pulled a motor myself, but am thinking about
> tackling it because my mechanic really doesn't want to do the job. Meaning
> it will be expensive just to remove and replace the motor. Before we even
> get into rebuilding it. Also I'm not sure we could get it finished before
> Summer hits here -- May or June.

It takes a lot of time but it's not rocket science, well I guess for us Olds
people it is Rocket science :), but it's not tough, just time consuming.  You
would need to rent a hoist to pull it, get a engine stand, have the machine
work done, buy a bunch of parts, put it together using all kinds of tools, and
rent a hoist to drop it back in.  Do you have the tools (torque wrenches, ring
bands, and such) and the time?  Remember that spring is coming and the machine
shops get real busy soon.  A good one can have a wait of several months:(.

	Since you have uneven compression I assume that you did a dry/wet 
compression
test.  What were the results?  If the problems are not in the heads then you
need to rebuild and it's just a matter of when.  Since you are keeping the car
you might as well get it over with now.  If the compression problem was not in
the rings (the wet/dry results were the same) then I would pull the heads and
have them done.

> I won't be selling the car so it doesn't bother me to put say $2500 or so
> into the drivetrain. What's a realistic number for a good, mostly stock
> rebuild, R&R and tranny?

	It depends a lot on whether you need to bore or not.  I went +0.30 on 
a stock
engine and I'm in for about $1,600 U.S. right now (and I'm not done yet:(). 
Boring means that you need to spend about $270 on pistons:(.  Lots of things
add up.

> My choice is really to replace the rocker arm pivots and motor mounts and
> drive it through Summer or get going on rebuilding now.

Hmmm, need more information.
- -- 

Cliff Simpson
mailto://csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442,400,th400,3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:28:24 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Advice

To all the sages,

I must pose an age-old question which is keeping me up at night.  I have
a vehilce (non-olds) which I enjoy and is in rather nice shape.  I have
been offered a sizable amount of money for it, but I can't decide if I
want to sell.  This opportunity may not arise again in the same format,
so if I don't sell, I'm out entirely.  I don't NEED the money so to
speak, but I would do wonders to the body of my '69 4-4-2.  I realize
that there is no correct answer for this question and that you may not
be able to provide me with any sustainence, however what have your
experiences been in a situation like this.  If you would like to email
me privately to save the list, the info is below.  Also, the car in
question is on my webpage (address is below), and it's not the Cutlass.
Thanks for any and all advice.

Dan

'69 4-4-2
'71 Cutlass Supreme
'72 Gr*nd Pr*x

- --
- ---------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
- ---------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 03:04:44 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Wipers

no worries the reply was meant to be fesitious not malitious anyway thanks
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Wipers


>Hi,
>   I didn't intend to be offensive, merely humorous. Unfortunately
sometimes
>I'm the only person who gets my jokes :-) Anyway, I think the problem would
>be caused by the wiper park switch or circuit like another poster
mentioned.
>Good luck,
>TTYL,
>Gene
>
>At 07:53 AM 5/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>you must be new as most here already know my feelings on the subject of
>>punctuation the car is a 69 (comma) with rotary switch also have a spare
one
>>of those (comma) but weather still sucks (period) And the motor is easier
>>than the switch to replace (exclamation point) provided all I want to do
is
>>trouble shoot the problem(row of periods) kk thanx for the input
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:30:19 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: More Work!

Jim's correct, didn't even think of that, probably could light a small bulb
with that setup.
Lou

- ----------
> From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: More Work!
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 11:59 PM
> 
> John
> 
>         The ONLY way to go with the aluminum intakes are the composite
gaskets.
> You have yourself a real good battery with 3 different metals using the
turkey
> tray.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:27:35 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: More Work!

John:
I'd do # 2, sounds the best, sure sounds like electrolysis. What do I know,
educated guess.
Lou

- ----------
> From: John Pajak <jspajak@yahoo.com>
> To: olds_gbody@listbot.com; oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: More Work!

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:02:32 -0500
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Radio in!

>Don,
>It is good to see you  back no worse for wear from your trip up north.  Do
you
>still have a working 8 track player and playable tapes, or am I the only
one?
>I did the lap around Lansing in '97 with REO Speedwagon playing on the 8
>track.
>
>Dave Wyatt
>70  4-4-2
>
No Dave, There's more 8 Tracks around than we probably know about. My
choices for Lansing were, The Doors, Eagles, Stones, Beatles, Hendrix and
that's it. That's only because they're the only ones I've found at flea
markets so far. Did have a Strawberry Alarmclock but the tape disintegrated.
Thank God.
==============================================
Mick Gillespie, Melbourne, FL
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
==============================================

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:00:32 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Olds

Chris:
Not too serious on this, kinda of a put on, (for me it was), darn lucky we
got an Olds!
Lou

- ----------
> From: Semantana Chris (ONEX) <SemantanaC@tce.com>
> To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca'
> Subject: RE: My Classic Car Olds

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:05:38 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.

I second that!  It'd be cool to have a separate list for classified.  I
think that's a better format than the internet.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Ken Swick
Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:38 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and
ratings.


I would like a site for buyers and sellers on the list.
I know Bryceman and other's available ... but I
always seach the list first.

Ken Swick
swickka@pa.net

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:10:54 -0500
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Advice

Is the P*ntiac increasing or decreasing in value? I have sold cars for
peanuts that are now worth a fortune. It kills me. I personally think the
car in question is one of the most beautiful (though heavy) bodies built by
GM.

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Comid <Comid>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 6:35 PM
Subject: Advice


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>To all the sages,
>
>I must pose an age-old question which is keeping me up at night.  I have
>a vehilce (non-olds) which I enjoy and is in rather nice shape.  I have
>been offered a sizable amount of money for it, but I can't decide if I
>want to sell.  This opportunity may not arise again in the same format,
>so if I don't sell, I'm out entirely.  I don't NEED the money so to
>speak, but I would do wonders to the body of my '69 4-4-2.  I realize
>that there is no correct answer for this question and that you may not
>be able to provide me with any sustainence, however what have your
>experiences been in a situation like this.  If you would like to email
>me privately to save the list, the info is below.  Also, the car in
>question is on my webpage (address is below), and it's not the Cutlass.
>Thanks for any and all advice.
>
>Dan
>
>'69 4-4-2
>'71 Cutlass Supreme
>'72 Gr*nd Pr*x
>
>--
>---------------------------------
>Daniel R. Gerow
>dgerow@stonehill.edu
>http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
>---------------------------------
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:12:49 -0500
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: head gaskets and oil ring bite the dust

well the old olds motor spit out the head gaskets and one oil ring
saturday night at gainsville .I guess the 028 gasket is not enough for
the edl alu heads was runing 10.75 comp . Ido not know why the oil ring
failed, but I guess i am lucky that it ran all last season with no
problems. next step is o ring the block 040 copper gasket and 060 flat
top pistons. hog out the heads to 80 cc and see what happens     butch
68 442  post

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:16:39 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Radio in!

Beatles?
Who's that, even spelt wrong.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Radio in!
> > I know I'm asking for trouble and we may get a long thread started, but
how
> > about the BEATLES!!

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:55:41 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild

Chris, you have a 455 with 100k on it, and it needs a build?  Again?  What's
wrong with this picture?  If you have a noisy lifter/rocker, replace the
rockers and bridge on the offending position,and see if that quiets your
engine.  That your trans leaks during times of protracted idleness is not
surprising.  The seal that goes around the torque converter frequently leaks
in 400 series trannies in such conditions.  When the trans is returned to
service the seal softens and re-seals.  How and where the compression has
diminished is critical data.  It would be very unusual for the rings to be
compromised in so young an engine in the absence of a profound overheat.  If
you have not run it real hot, I would look to the top end for the
compression dimunition.  This being the case, if you are not leaking the
oil, look to the stem seals for the oil consumption.  My worst oil user in a
big block is using right at one quart in a thousand miles.  In a worst case
scenario, you can grind valves, re-ring, and renew mains and rods with the
block in the frame.  Move slowly, but carry a big stick.  Peter.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:20:42 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Radio in!

Beatles?
Who's that, even spelt wrong.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > I know I'm asking for trouble and we may get a long thread started, but
how
> > about the BEATLES!!

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 03:20:10 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Wipers

thanx the car is a 69 actually thought that a ground may be the prob but the
motor still worked wierd will check the ground at the switch in the motor
housing....KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Stakin@aol.com <Stakin@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: Wipers


>, you write:
>
><< well this may seem funny because I'm laughing my butt off but the wipers
on
> my 442 wont turn off they continue to run for about 5 minutes then die of
> their own free will and accord  >>
>
>Dont know what year your 442 is but I had the same problem with my 69
>Elcamino. It turned out to be a bad ground at the switch in my case.
>
>Joe

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:23:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Repro OAI Hood

Still doing research on finding the right Repro
ram air hood to add to my 72 Cutlass Supreme.
The one suggestion that I had I have not been
able to investigate yet is for "U.S.Body Source".
I cannot locate a webpage, phone number or
anything for these guys.  I did find them in the April 91 "guide to
musclecars" magazine" which by the way- has a nice article on a white 70
W30 with yellow stripes-.  but point being, the
phone number is old.

Anybody have a current catalog or any recent
good/bad experience with their Olds hoods?

Thanks a Million, and two cents each.

Kevin

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:26:33 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Bile was: How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE 
Olds related.....!

K:
Is SOM of the Male or the Female persuasion?
Lou
- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Bile was: How about.... and miscellaneous that apparently ARE
Olds related.....!

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:28:53 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Caravan to Dallas was: My Classic Car Olds

K:
In unless something silly happens.
Lou

- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Caravan to Dallas was: My Classic Car Olds

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:44:53 -0500
From: "Dan" <dsm137@gti.net>
Subject: Re: Repro OAI Hood

I believe I might have a good hood for a 71 or 72...I believe it has louvers
but I must check....Interested????
Dan.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin D. Wood <Dr-Olds@webtv.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 7:25 PM
Subject: Repro OAI Hood


Still doing research on finding the right Repro
ram air hood to add to my 72 Cutlass Supreme.
The one suggestion that I had I have not been
able to investigate yet is for "U.S.Body Source".
I cannot locate a webpage, phone number or
anything for these guys.  I did find them in the April 91 "guide to
musclecars" magazine" which by the way- has a nice article on a white 70
W30 with yellow stripes-.  but point being, the
phone number is old.

Anybody have a current catalog or any recent
good/bad experience with their Olds hoods?

Thanks a Million, and two cents each.

Kevin

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:58:17 -0500
From: Bill Bussell <photographer@tcon.net>
Subject: Power Antenna Problem

The power antenna on my 87 Olds Custom Cruiser stopped working after I
drove through a snow storm on a cold night.  I guess that I did not
notice the antenna being stuck open when I turned the car off that night
in a hotel parking lot.  I did not see a fuse on the fuse block for the
antenna.  Is there a hidden fuse? This is the second power antenna in
172,000 miles.  My dad had it replaced when he owned the car.  Do I have
to unbolt the bottom of the fender to get to the unit?

Bill Bussell
Speedway, Indiana

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:18:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: Repro OAI Hood

Thanks for the offer Dan.  I have a couple of
standard hood to get rid of myself, but this time
I want a reproduction Ram Air hood.  I would
happily settle for a nice used one if somebody
wants to part with one for a few hundred bucks..

Ha Ha Ha Ha.  Funny, hey?

That's why I'm going with a reproduction.  Might as well.  So far I have
a motor from a 68 Delta 88 rebuilt for fun, a long tail TH400 from a 67
Delta 88, a driveshaft from a who knows what-
at least partially from the same '67- (just try
to find u-joints to match the unknown), and last but not least a P*nt**c
GTO rearend 3.55 posi.
I didn't have a lot of cash when I put this combo
together, but it does a great job!

My car is a Mutt.  But I still wouldn't trade it for
anything.

Kevin 
1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme 88 GTO

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:16:10 EST
From: DrkSole96@aol.com
Subject: 73 Cutlass Supreme stripe

I got my package of info back from the Olds History Center, according to them,
my car originally came painted Moss Gold with a beige stripe.  The car was
repainted red before I purchased it, but I am going to have it repainted after
the rust on the car is fixed up.  Anyway, I've looked through all the 73 sales
brochure I have, looked through the assembly manual, and watched all the 73
commercials, and the only Olds I saw with a stripe, other than the 442-H/O was
the Omega, which had a 1-2"stripe running along the upper edge of the fenders
to the rear quarters.  Is this what the stripe on the Cutlass Supreme would've
looked like?  I think it's pretty snazzy, and'll probably have it put on my
car anyway, but I'd like to know if this is what the original looked like.
Thanks,
DrkSole96@aol.com
73 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:21 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Repro OAI Hood

forget it, i had one and it was total crap. couldnt fit the chrome along the
rear and the front over the grills. this was in 1990 maybe they`ve improved.
try ASC, sorry dont have their info.  good luck.    dennis    w451973

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:21:02 EST
From: DrkSole96@aol.com
Subject: test

test

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:19:55 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild

I would just like to echo Cliff's comments about digging further into
diagnosing the engine problems with more tests.  If the problems
are in the heads you can take care of everything pretty easy and
cheap.  The bad motor mounts will also do nothing for the rough
idle but make it worse.  As far as the leaking trans, a common
cause is the tailshaft seal leaking because of corrosion on the
driveshaft yoke.  If the car sat for a while the yoke can rust and
when you drive the car the yoke moves in and out of the trans as
you go over bumps.  This will tear up the seal so that when you
park it ATF drains out the back of the trans, especially if the car
is parked uphill.  Most of what you describe very likely could be
easy fixes as long as the compression problem is in the heads
and not the rings.  If the problem is in the heads, that's something
that is fairly straightforward for a novice to do.  Basically boils down
to R&R with the machine shop doing the actual valve work.  Saves
you a bundle of money too!

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/


>Olds heads,
>I'm in need of your advice. I'm thinking about whether it's time to redo
the
>455 in my 98 in time for Summer99.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:30:17 -0500
From: "Dan" <dsm137@gti.net>
Subject: Re: Repro OAI Hood/1972 Cutlass

The first Cutlass I ever owned was the 72 Cutlass S. Had it twenty years
ago. Mom even had a 71 wagon. I was fortunate enough to get that high end
speed up enough to wreck two of these beauties in my youth.....what a
putz!!!! Now I have the 67 convertible.
Dan.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin D. Wood <Dr-Olds@webtv.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Repro OAI Hood


Thanks for the offer Dan.  I have a couple of
standard hood to get rid of myself, but this time
I want a reproduction Ram Air hood.  I would
happily settle for a nice used one if somebody
wants to part with one for a few hundred bucks..

Ha Ha Ha Ha.  Funny, hey?

That's why I'm going with a reproduction.  Might as well.  So far I have
a motor from a 68 Delta 88 rebuilt for fun, a long tail TH400 from a 67
Delta 88, a driveshaft from a who knows what-
at least partially from the same '67- (just try
to find u-joints to match the unknown), and last but not least a P*nt**c
GTO rearend 3.55 posi.
I didn't have a lot of cash when I put this combo
together, but it does a great job!

My car is a Mutt.  But I still wouldn't trade it for
anything.

Kevin
1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme 88 GTO

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:34:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Power Antenna Problem

Not on the list; respond to photographer@tcon.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Bill Bussell <photographer@tcon.net>
Subject: Power Antenna Problem

The power antenna on my 87 Olds Custom Cruiser stopped working after I
drove through a snow storm on a cold night.  I guess that I did not
notice the antenna being stuck open when I turned the car off that night
in a hotel parking lot.  I did not see a fuse on the fuse block for the
antenna.  Is there a hidden fuse? This is the second power antenna in
172,000 miles.  My dad had it replaced when he owned the car.  Do I have
to unbolt the bottom of the fender to get to the unit?

Bill Bussell
Speedway, Indiana

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:35:08 -0500
From: "Gib Loudon" <cutlass@mill.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.

Too all that were interested in creating the list of good and bad sellers, I
am volunteering to put up this list on Cutlass Net.  All I ask is that you
all come up with a list of dealers you have had problems with and ones you
reccomend, and I'll be happy to add them to Cutlass Net.  Just let me know.
I'm not sure who started the Idea, but if that person could contact me,
please do so using the info below.

Gib "The Rocketman" Loudon
Cutlass Net
http://www.cutlass.net
cutlass@mill.tds.net
loud5269@kettering.edu

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:32:00 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Advice

Dan,
According to your web site you already have your answer.  
The only advice anyone can give you is that you have to 
look at how you view your car.  Do you think of it as a car
or as a friend.  If it's a car, it boils down to just transportation
(nice transportation, but the same in the end).  If it's a friend
then you'll regret it forever.  Something along the lines of 
sending the dog you grew up with to the pound because you
had to move.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:36:28 PST
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: who to trust

Hi,

I cannot always do the work needed on my car.  Be it lack of tools or 
time.  I do havea a mechanic, besides me.  He is damn good, Knock on 
wood.  His name is Oscar Delpha at Del Auto, Austin, Texas.  We see eye 
to eye most of the time.  And If he cannot do the specific work, he is 
honest enough to tell me.  He also usually knows someone who can, e.g. 
electrical, do the work better or cheaper.

I guess I am lucky.

Happy Motoring,

Chris Rivier
Austin,TX
'66 Delta 88...The BEAST is BACK!
'88 Festiva...ZIPPY 166K LAWN ORNAMENT!


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:45:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Yasczak <VJTD@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Re: Pot metal repair/plating

I just checked Fusiks web site and it says that they are going to reproduce the
hood moldings and they will be available in early 199 for $150.00 for the 
pair. 
Hope this info helps.  Robb Yasczak
				
		       1969 Cutlass S
		       1969 442
		       1976 442
		       1987 Cutlass Salon
		       1998 Intrigue GLS	

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:40:43 EST
From: DocOlds723@aol.com
Subject: Victor Olds Intake

One more shot...
  Does anybody have (or know someone) with a Victor Olds Intake they are
willing to sell?
  Also, Is there enough interest out there to get a bunch of people together
to try to get Edelbrock to make a production run???

    Thanks,
       Dave

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:52:27 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmail@webtv.net (mark sopp)
Subject: interior use question 

i have a 70 442 coupe with black strato bucket seats.will the seat from
a 70 supreme convertible match exactly to my interior?

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:54:53 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Performance improvements of 1 vs 3 angle valve job.

Hi list,
	well I talked to the shop today and it was nothing but bad news.  The E
heads I already had done by a different shop have only a 1 angle valve
job done.  He also said that the springs are stock, probably the
original ones, and have 60 lbs. force at the seat.  He says I need a 3
angle grind, and new Crane springs (90-110 lbs.. at the seat).

	I asked how much he wanted to port the exhaust bowls, grind off the
A.I.R. bumps, and smooth out the exhaust side.  He said $200 U.S.  That
along with the $100 springs and whatever (don't have the numbers right
here) for the 3 angle job is going to blow my budget.  I have to
remember that I'll need a torque convertor, a carb, a heater core, and a
ignition module before I'll be able to run the car.  

	So the question is, how much will a 1 angle valve job hold me back? 
I'm thinking that I have to get the springs because I really don't want
to break an old spring and drop a valve.  I'm only going to be running a
CS1023 cam (214/224, 472/.496) so I don't think the springs need to be
much better than stock.  Maybe I could just go with new springs and then
get the car running this year.  Next year I could get the C heads done
including porting and swap them and put on a Performer.  That would
rock.

	And a second question, how much would a 1975 Q-jet be different from a
1970 Q-jet?  If I take a 1975 Q-jet and get the appropriate rods and
jets for a 1970 can I make it work for this engine?  The 1975 carb is
from an unknown engine at the wreckers.  I just need to start saving
money somewhere or I'll never be able to afford finishing this beast.

	I know, I know, probably dumb questions and I should look in the FAQ
but I haven't had much luck with this sort of thing in the FAQ.

TIA
- -- 
Cliff "the stone" Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:56:01 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: 73 Cutlass Supreme stripe

The only stripe that I can find for the Cutlass Supreme would be pin striping
and thats it. The Cutlass "S" was available with a dual patterned stripe
around the wheel wells , similar to the 442 side striping. But if the original
owner was persistant enough he of she could probably get any stripe they
wanted.Hot Rod Harry <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">1973
Olds Cutlass 455 4speed</A> 

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:03:18 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmail@webtv.net (mark sopp)
Subject: Re: interior use question

i got my question back. was there a answer sent or do they come back as
file copy?

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:07:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Olds History Center

Reading message regarding Olds History Center and I am curious about
it... I'm new to
these parts and all the tools available out there.
How does one go about getting info on the history of his car?  Is there
a service that will do this, and what does it cost?
Thanks.
Kevin

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:09:33 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: Advice

Very nicely put, Mike.  People look at me very strangely (and probably
rightly so) when I say I lost my best high school friend in an accident
during my first semester at college. The sympathy turns to strange looks
when I tell them it was an 85 Honda Accord.  Really a beautiful car,
even if it was a Honda.  As a parting lesson however, the car taught me
not to go 70 on a mud slicked highway with bad tires.  I could still
have that car today, luckily no one was hurt, except for my best friend,
who was totaled.
Brian.

Mike Bloomer wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> According to your web site you already have your answer.
> The only advice anyone can give you is that you have to
> look at how you view your car.  Do you think of it as a car
> or as a friend.  If it's a car, it boils down to just transportation
> (nice transportation, but the same in the end).  If it's a friend
> then you'll regret it forever.  Something along the lines of
> sending the dog you grew up with to the pound because you
> had to move.
> 
> Mike Bloomer
> mbloomer@mindspring.com
> ICQ# 19113713
> http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:27:56 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: Re: tranny lines and disc brakes

Just wanted to say thanks, for all the reponses to my questions.  I
appreciate it.

Bill Reilly
mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
Web Page: (Not yet)

My Garage:
'83 Cutlass Ciera
'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
'85 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:25:27 EST
From: Onebil2mny@aol.com
Subject: Re: Repro OAI Hood

In a message dated 2/1/1999 8:25:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, W451973@aol.com
writes:

<< forget it, i had one and it was total crap. couldnt fit the chrome along
the
 rear and the front over the grills. >>

I did have a problem with the rear molding.....  but they tell you that this
needs to be ground down to make the molding fit.  I don't know about the front
moldings as I remade the molding area when I modified the hood to properly
align with the front of the car (71-72 OEM hoods seem to fit badly here too).

Bill K

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:32:57 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Olds History Center

From a earlier post:

Here's what you have to do to get info.

Send $15.00 check made out to Oldsmobile Division to:

Oldsmobile History Center
920 Townsend Street
Lansing, MI 48921

The recording says you have to include a mail stop number, which is
48911104. I guess you put that in the address (2nd line) or somewhere on
the
envelope.

You need to include your vin number and a pencil rubbing of your cowl
tag.
(firewall plate according the the recording)

I believe the jury is still out as far as what they send you back.

"Kevin D. Wood" wrote:
> 
> Reading message regarding Olds History Center and I am curious about
> it... I'm new to
> these parts and all the tools available out there.
> How does one go about getting info on the history of his car?  Is there
> a service that will do this, and what does it cost?
> Thanks.
> Kevin

- -- 
Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:33:53 -0800
From: "Tim Wurtz" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: Interchanging Crankshaft

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:35:58 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Caravan to Dallas was: My Classic Car Olds

- -----Original Message-----
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
<snip>

>make the
>trip.  Is New Jersey in the forecast for 2000?  I don't know yet.
<snip>

Yep, The year 2000 Olds Nats is gonna be right here in My back yard,  NJ!!
I believe they changed the actual location though.  They were having
problems with the hotel I think.  I don't forsee any problems with attending
that Nationals. ;-)

I want to go to Dallas ~sooo~ bad, but I don't think the Cutlass will be
done, yet again.  It's a little early this year, and Just too far to sqeeze
into one one week's worth of vacation.

I'll hopefully have the Cutlass done for the Hot Rod East Coast Power Tour.
Any dates set for that yet??  It was late summer/early fall last year,
right?

Bill Reilly
mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
Web Page: (Not yet)

My Garage:
'83 Cutlass Ciera
'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
'85 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:36:47 -0800
From: "Tim Wurtz" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: 2 convertible for parts or whole

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:44:48 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds History Center

If the phone #s have not change for the History Center they are 517-885-1502
                                                                              
517-885-1503
       address is Oldsmobile History Center
                        Mail Stop 489-111-040
                        920 Townsend Street
                        Lansing MI. 49021      hours are 7am to 11am

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:55:29 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: J-2 intakes

The J-2 will fit on the 371 and on the 394.


Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454




- ----------
> From: Erik Gertsen <ainode@frontiernet.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: J-2 intakes
> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 2:23 PM
> 
> what engines do those fit on? small block only?     i saw those j-2's on
> ebay....... and i wondered .
> 
> Erik Gertsen-
> 

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:56:03 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: One Boxed Ctrl Arm (1970)

I have one 
$20 plus shipping
If interested E me

Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454




- ----------
> From: Reed, Stephen <sreed@chatsworth.com>
> To: 'Olds' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: REQ:  One Boxed Ctrl Arm (1970)
> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 4:14 PM
> 
> Looking for one boxed control arm, don't care if it's rusty as the one I
> have is.  Please reply if you can help me out one part at a time
> 
> Thanks everyone!
> 
> Steve Reed
> '70 4-4-2 'Ragtop
> Austin, TX

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:59:28 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: interior use question 

Nope they won't match.
Coupes have a different cover pattern then convertibles.  the convertible
has a four large square pattern where the coupe has two rows of buttons
going vertically and roles going horizontal.
But they will fit and work until you have the coin to reupholster..

Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454




- ----------
> From: mark sopp <throckmail@webtv.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: interior use question 
> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:52 PM
> 
> i have a 70 442 coupe with black strato bucket seats.will the seat from
> a 70 supreme convertible match exactly to my interior?
> 

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:58:13 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: US body Source (was Re: Repro OAI Hood)

Anybody have a current catalog or any recent
good/bad experience with their Olds hoods?

Thanks a Million, and two cents each.

Kevin


FYI, catalog is about one  year old.
US Body Source
9009 CR 325
Hampton, FL 32044-9720
(352)468-2203
Monday-Thursday 9:00-4:30, Friday 9:00-3:00

Bill Reilly
mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
Web Page: (Not yet)

My Garage:
'83 Cutlass Ciera 
'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
'85 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:23:29 -0500
From: "Gib Loudon" <cutlass@mill.tds.net>
Subject: [none]

subscribe oldsmobile

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:26:01 -0500
From: "Gib Loudon" <cutlass@mill.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.

Too all that were interested in creating the list of good and bad sellers, I
am volunteering to put up this list on Cutlass Net.  All I ask is that you
all come up with a list of dealers you have had problems with and ones you
reccomend, and I'll be happy to add them to Cutlass Net.  Just let me know.
I'm not sure who started the Idea, but if that person could contact me,
please do so using the info below.

Gib "The Rocketman" Loudon
Cutlass Net
http://www.cutlass.net
cutlass@mill.tds.net
loud5269@kettering.edu

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:31:09 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmail@webtv.net (mark sopp)
Subject: bucket seat base

does anyone have a passenger side bucket seat base for a 1970 black
strato unit used in 442 models in perfect condition.also,does anyone
know where to get the pigskin pattern vinyl used on these units?

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:56:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Thank you.

I have posted question in the past few days about Repro OAI Hoods,
Exhaust Systems
and the Olds History Center.  You guys do a
very nice job on this list.  

Gardner Exhaust came highly recommended
and I spoke to Eric Gardner today.  For $350 they will give you a
complete system aluminized inside and out, including all original
hangers and even some sealer that was originally used at the factory.  I
was very impressed.  He asked me to mention that they are now
reproducting a
cap to close off the exhaust crossover to convert from single to dual
exhaust.  I will buy
a system from him before spring, and will pass on how it goes.

I have narrowed down my Hood source to either Tamraz's in Chicago or The
Parts Place in Illinois also.  They both are nice companies to deal
with, and I have to believe they are selling the same hoods.  I did get
a good look
at the hood The Parts Place is selling at a swap
meet last year. (Jefferson, Wi).  Both of these
guys offered to make arrangements to transport the hoods to WIsconsin
with no additional charge.  Anybody else used on of these aftermarket
hoods with good or bad results?
I think this is the same hood Year One sells...
I will of course let everybody know what good or bad comes from my
experience as well.

Can anybody tell me what the History Center actually sends you for $15?

I will undoubtedly find more questions to ask
and I sincerely appreciate the answers thus far.
I will chime in whenever I can be of help- so
for now----- Thank you!

Kevin D. Wood
1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:04:26 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmail@webtv.net (mark sopp)
Subject: Re: olds history center

the history center sent me a letter on olds stationary with a breakdown
and description of every line on the firewall plate.it is a nice item to
have detailing the origin of the car.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:07:39 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: J-2 intakes

J-2 intakes WILL NOT fit the 394.  These intakes will only fit the 371.

Regards,
Fred


- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: J-2 intakes


>The J-2 will fit on the 371 and on the 394.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:04:28 EST
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: J-2 intakes

In a message dated 2/1/99 9:50:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, docbob@caninet.com
writes:

<< 
 The J-2 will fit on the 371 and on the 394.
  >>
Sorry to throw a wrench in but it will not fit a 394, bad experience of a
friend  ( in $$$$$)  proved it.   Sorry


Everett   OCA# 1961    1961 Starfire

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:11:48 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Interchanging Crankshaft

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    To: Oldsmobile Group <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
    Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:34 PM
    Subject: Interchanging Crankshaft
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:21:59 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.

well, if nothing else. I would like to warn everybody about this JERK on ebay.
he go`es by pontiac59. he screwed me and a couple of other people I talked to.
he has a habit of cashing your money order and forgetting to give you your
stuff, so watch out for this jerk. I DONT WANT TO START ANY e-mail campaign or
anything of the sort. just beware of him.     dennis    w451973

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:39:53 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and ratings.

I've bought stereo's, cd's. car parts, and concert tickets from people on
the net and haven't gotten screwed.  It sucks that that happened, and that
risk will always be there.  But it's important to remember that most people
are honest.  I'd feel comfortable buying anything off of someone whose name
I see on this list often, ya know?
Perhaps we should start some sort of ass-kicking secret society where it's
the duty of the closest person to go kick ass on whoever rips someone off
from this list.  And kick his ass in front of his girlfriend.  I'll take my
"posse" to anyone in the Bucks County area of PA who rips someone off.
Yeah, biotch.  Me and my homey's!  Tru dat!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of W451973@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 11:22 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Feasibility of a site with list of Olds sellers and
ratings.


well, if nothing else. I would like to warn everybody about this JERK on
ebay.
he go`es by pontiac59. he screwed me and a couple of other people I talked
to.
he has a habit of cashing your money order and forgetting to give you your
stuff, so watch out for this jerk. I DONT WANT TO START ANY e-mail campaign
or
anything of the sort. just beware of him.     dennis    w451973

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:39:27 EST
From: Oldscutaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: Repro OAI Hood

    Try everett@diomedics.com he is pretty good with all you questions. He
works for Classic Fiberglass.

Alex

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:42:34 EST
From: Bbymks4@aol.com
Subject: Re: 73 stipes

                 In my Standard Catalog of Oldsmobile, the stripe is listed as
a factory
              option at $26.00. it's shown on the ' 73 Hurst Olds, but since
it was listed 
              as an option, I think that it could have been put on any of the
Cutlass's.
              It started out as a point, just behind  the front headlights, it
then widened 
             out to about 2", once it got to the front wheels, it continued on
that way
             until it got to the rear set of wheels, and then it narrowed down
once again
             until it stopped at the rear of the car, I've seen a ' 73 Cutlass
Supreme on 
              the OCC web page that had this stripe on it. And that's all I
know,
              Best of luck from......Steve M.
              1-' 73 442 project

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:51:55 -0800 (PST)
From: cecilia laughton <laughton@silcom.com>
Subject: unsubcribe

Please take me off your mailing list for now.

Thanks,
Cecilia Laughton

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:56:10 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: 68 Cutlass Supreme (Was Re: Horsepower TV)

Omega Man/List,

The color scheme on the 442 they showed got me to remembering my first car --
a white (with black top) 68 Cutlass Supreme.  By the time I got it the car was
on it's last legs, but I still wish I'd had kept it.  But I do still have the
car that replaced it -- a light green 70 C/S SX, early model.  From 1978 until
1996 she was the everyday driver, 260,000 miles total, 140,000 on the 455, and
120,000 on the 350 I put in to take it's place until I got the 455 rebuilt
(still not done.........)

Someday, it will happen.

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

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