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oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, February 18 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1788



Re: Gas Mileage
Roll Call
Authentic "C" head
Re: Gas Mileage
Arizona Assistance Please
Re: SB Olds Head bolts
Aluminum 215 on Ebay
Re: roll call
SB Offy Dual Quad on Ebay
Give The Gift Of Love
Re: Oil Pressure Gauge Problems (copper)
Re: Authentic "C" head
Re: SB Olds Head bolts
Re: SB Olds Head bolts
Re: Roll call
Re: Roll call
Re: Roll Call/Mark Cornea
Re: Roll call - calling Joe P.
roll call
Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
roll call
Re: Muffler/Resonator?
RE: FS 66-69 Cutlass/4-4-2 parts
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
RE: Resto $$
Re: Resto $$
Re: Roll Call
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Re: Roll Call
Re: roll call 
C chamber heads
77 Hurst Prototype FS
Re: Cut off tool
Wanted-Front End for 74 Cutlass S/442
Re: Brighter lights?
RE: interior swap
RE: Screen Saver Pics
Re: FS 66-69 Cutlass/4-4-2 parts
Re: Roll Call
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Re: Roll call
What A Body radiator for a '71 VC?
SPRING---Training
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Conv't Top Replacement
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Re: Screen Saver Pics
Re: What A Body radiator for a '71 VC?
Re: Roll call
Re: Resto $$
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:06:05 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

Igor wrote:

>And last, how "deep" down was your foot on that trip.  If you are even
>touching the secondaries (which you probably are with the roller 307, drove
>one on a trip, I know), that would explain it.
> 

What does the fact (and I'm not even sure that it IS a fact) that it's a
"roller 307" have to do with anything? (Note that I really have no idea, as
opposed to "You're full of shiitte...")

"Rollers" mean that you have "roller rockers", correct?  It was my
understanding that roller rockers were desirable, is this not so?  What
other types of rockers could one have?  

What does this roller/non-roller setup have to do with hydraulic/solid/???
lifters?  I ask only for information...
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:39:23 -0800
From: mitzm@earthlink.net
Subject: Roll Call

Hans Naepflin, Manhattan Beach, CA, 36 year old Aerospace Engineer.  My 70
Cutlass Supreme convertible has been my daily driver since 1983 and now has
256000 miles and is due for some sprucing up.  I'm open to recommendations
for really good quality mechanical or body shops in the LA, preferably
south bay area.

Mitzm@mail.earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:37:31 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Authentic "C" head

I have a set of '69 'C' heads, Toronado style, still for sale.

OH, and a '70 Cutlass S hood and a few other odds & ends.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

1966 Toronado, 1967 Delta 88 Custom, 1972 Vista Cruiser, 1972 Cutlass
Supreme Convertible

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:42:42 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

>What does the fact (and I'm not even sure that it IS a fact) that it's a
>"roller 307" have to do with anything? (Note that I really have no idea, as
>opposed to "You're full of shiitte...")

>"Rollers" mean that you have "roller rockers", correct?  It was my
>understanding that roller rockers were desirable, is this not so?  What
>other types of rockers could one have?

Roller LIFTERS.  Those lifters roll over a cam (ball end) instead of slide
like a hydraulic (metal lifter bouncing up and down as the cam rotates).
This is better because of less ware and tare and less noise.  When Olds
introduced Roller motors, it was in order to eliminate cam failure and quiet
the motor down.  (this is what I heard, so not necessarily what it is).  I
don't think they had roller rockers.  I don't remember seeing them when I
changed a valve-cover-gasket (did it ONLY ONCE and it worked fine, used
Silicon).

All things equal, roller motors are better.  They make less friction, so
more power.  They also last a long time and run quiet.  HOWEVER, in 307s
case, it also got cheaper (more pollution controlled) heads, worst exhaust
system and worst exhaust manifolds.  In short, I think, they made for more
loss then only the advertised 10 HP.  Why?  My '81 307 Delta and my '81 307
Regency (heavier, propane) with twice the mileage will absolutely pulverize
my dads friends '85 Delta with 55,000 miles (Vs. 250,000 on the Delta 307,
~160,000 for the Regency).  That '85 Delta is the one I took on a trip and
it has a roller motor.  It had little power, both my '81s are much better
with their 307s.  Maybe the '85 just sucks, but I did drive an '84 once and
it too was gutless.  I mean it is not a huge difference, but take my Delta
for example.  It had a 3-speed (and 2.41) so it revved at 2000 at 60 mph. My
Regency has the OD and it revs lots lower and therefore makes me keep the
foot down all the time.  But you have a Th350, so I guess it does not apply.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:46:36 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Arizona Assistance Please

I will herein admit I haven't read ALL of the recent roll call posts.  Are
there any Zoni Olds list-ers out there?  I have a great lead on much needed
parts outta Arizona near the New Mexico border - Patagonia - and am without
a means to get at them (the whole lot of Vista Cruisers is for sale).  

This is a divorce issue - there are 4 VC's involved (I think all are '72's)
and I can post more details when my buddy forwards me the info.  But if
nothing else, I'll be in need of help in picking up at least the tailgate
we've needed for quite awhile.

All assistance is appreciated.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

1966 Toronado, 1967 Delta 88 Custom, 1972 Vista Cruiser, 1972 Cutlass
Supreme Convertible

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:51:11 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: SB Olds Head bolts

>      Finally to the point of putting heads on the 403. I of course had the
>bolts laid out exactly like I took them out, and of course they were
>disturbed. My question is in regards to the 2 head bolts with studs on the
>ends. The Haynes manual (the one diagram that ISN'T a SB Chev) shows the
>longer of the two bolts (bigger diameter stud) on the driver side second
bolt
>from the front of the motor. (I'm only counting visible bolts...1-5 driver,
>1-5 pass. front to rear) The other stud I have no clue. Can anyone help me
>out? Thanks, Dorian

Hmmm. From what I remember when I assembled my 455 is that the stud bolts go
up to the front of the engine so that the negative battery cable can hook up
and also the A/C bracket (maybe something else too).  But I am sure you KNEW
that, so just wasting bandwidth.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:58:56 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Aluminum 215 on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=67138510

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:58:22 -0500
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: roll call

Gotcha covered Roger. I think Ray is making a list too. Any people in
particular or do you want everyone?

Randy


>Is anyone making a list of this roll call?
>I have accidently deleted several  names & would like all of them.
>Appreciate any help.
>Roger Utter

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:01:38 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: SB Offy Dual Quad on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=67964171
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:35:53 -0800
From: "f87olds" <f87olds@glblnet.com>
Subject: Re: Oil Pressure Gauge Problems (copper)

I would highly recommend going to the copper tubing.  After a recent rebuild
of my 455 and adding an oil gauge w/plastic tubing, quite a few buddies told
me to switch to copper.
That same night while cruising local Detroit strips, I noticed a drop in oil
pressure and smoke from under the hood.  The heat from my intake had melted
the plastic hose and dumped about 2 quarts of oil on the intake and sprayed
it all over the engine bay.
Was able to plug the hose and limp home luckily.  After that, changed tubing
next day, and will not make the same mistake again.
Hope my misfortune might steer you in the right direction.

Aaron Lamb
72 F-87 Cutlass
- -----Original Message-----
From: Igor T. '81 DRB 455 <igor455@home.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 12:22 PM
Subject: Oil Pressure Gauge Problems (copper)


>I have a problem with my oil-pressure gauge.  It leaks like nuts out of the
>sending hole (above Water Pump).  I am using plastic tubing, but no matter
>how I do it or what screw I use, it keeps leaking.  I was told that copper
>line would be much, MUCH better and that it would stop the leak.  Is this
>true.  If so, I am going to do it because it made a mess of my new engine.
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:48:20 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Authentic "C" head

Lisa,

What is "Toronado Style"?  Just what car it came off of?

At 10:37 PM 2/17/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I have a set of '69 'C' heads, Toronado style, still for sale.
>
>OH, and a '70 Cutlass S hood and a few other odds & ends.
>
>
>Lisa Madsen
>Anaheim, CA
>
>1966 Toronado, 1967 Delta 88 Custom, 1972 Vista Cruiser, 1972 Cutlass
>Supreme Convertible
>
>Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
>My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
>Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
>Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
>http://exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/
> 
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:45:50 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: SB Olds Head bolts

In a message dated 2/17/99 10:51:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, igor455@home.com
writes:

<< Hmmm. From what I remember when I assembled my 455 is that the stud bolts
go
 up to the front of the engine so that the negative battery cable can hook up
 and also the A/C bracket (maybe something else too).  But I am sure you KNEW
 that, so just wasting bandwidth. >>

      Hehe..friend who has a better memory than me said I wasn't using any
before anyway, so I guess it makes no diff. I will just use normal head bolts
instead I guess, since no AC. Thanks, Dorian

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:52:48 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: SB Olds Head bolts

>      Finally to the point of putting heads on the 403. I of course had the
>bolts laid out exactly like I took them out, and of course they were
>disturbed. My question is in regards to the 2 head bolts with studs on the
>ends. The Haynes manual (the one diagram that ISN'T a SB Chev) shows the
>longer of the two bolts (bigger diameter stud) on the driver side second bolt
>from the front of the motor. (I'm only counting visible bolts...1-5 driver,
>1-5 pass. front to rear) The other stud I have no clue. Can anyone help me
>out? Thanks, Dorian

Hmmm, it goes on the other side, usually as a support for the A/C bracket
that crosses over the valve cover. I gather that these studs were installed
in the same positions, whether or not the engines would actually have the
accessory brackets that would need the studs.

The best way to check is to mock up the brackets and see where those studs
are needed.
_______________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry   MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:28 -0600
From: steven@purplemonkey.com (Steven Saraceno)
Subject: Re: Roll call

Ok, I'll do it too.

Steven Gerard Saraceno
Oak Park IL - just outside Chicago
Interactive media developer
married, one boy, one girl
one Olds
1970 Azure Blue 442 W-30 convertible - loaded $4,700 when new
learned to drive in my dad's 71 lime green Cutlass S - wish I still had
it.
Owned a 72 Cutlass Supreme and a 76 98 regency - biggest car I ever
drove.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:54:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Roll call

Testing my new signature file...

Greg Beaulieu
Olds List Administrator
Senior Policy Analyst, Dept. of Finance, Province of Nova Scotia

'68 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe, Scarlet with black interior, 2nd owner,
44,000 miles, always looking for new options to add!

'78 Delta 88 4-door, dark carmine metallic, the beater

As a homeowner these days, I'm trying to save my pennies for a new 2-car
heated garage for the Olds! 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:05:57 -0500
From: Mark Cornea <mcornea@ford.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call/Mark Cornea

TheBlue67@aol.com wrote:
> 
> << Had:  1971 442 w/4 speed-now in MI
>                   1972 H/O w/sunroof-now in IL
>                   1972 Supreme w/455 4 speed - TRYING TO FIND
> 
>           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>                 Mark Cornea (Dr. Decal)  OCA# 4903
>                               1970 W30 (red)
>   >>
> Mark........ i have the poster with your 72 sunroof car on it. i love the car
> and the poster. also did you happen to see the 72 4-speed supreme for sale in
> either hemmings or jwo????? i think it was in minnesota but my dad called and
> guy sold it already.
> 
> Brent
> 1967 Cutlass Convertible

	Brent, Yes I did call on it last month, saw the ad Hemmings.
 
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
               Mark Cornea (Dr. Decal)  OCA# 4903
                             1970 W30 (red)

                      mailto:drdecal@wwnet.net
                      mailto:mcornea@ford.com

                    Visit http://www.drdecal.com
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:48:44 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Roll call - calling Joe P.

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

Way to go, Greg!!  Now, JOE PADAVANO, it's your turn.  What's the scoop on
you?  Don't get quiet on us now.

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:08:10 EST
From: GraphixRUs@aol.com
Subject: roll call

I didn't save the first few names.
Has anyone kept a file?
Is there anyone here that lives near Sacremento.
Roger Utter

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:14:46 -0500
From: EJ <oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

Greetings all. Anybody been to Harry's ?. I seem to recall some mention
of this at some point, somewhere in the past. 

I see in the commercials that all cars are suppossed to be off the
ground, and they have some ridiculous amount of acerage there(thought
they might have said a 100 in the commercial). Anyway, are the cars
seperated/organized by make or manufacturer to make things easy to find?
Or should I take a sleeping bag, and expect to only be able to write
home on weekends ? ;).

TIA
EJ
- --  
"EJ"  In Hamilton Township, New Jersey, suburb of Trenton
On digest where availabile, not regular mail
http://members.tripod.com/Olds_luvr/photoalbum/photoalbum/index.html
E-Mail: oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net
                               The "Fleet"
1979 Pontiac "Olds organ donor" Trans Am T-tops Rebuilt Olds 6.6L 403 
     4bbl-TH350 Performer Cam and Intake.....going into the Calais
     For Sale. 
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais T-Tops 5.0L 307 4bbl-TH350-2.14 gears K+N.....
     soon to be 6.6L 403 4bbl, and hopefully some better "rear" gears
1985 Olds Toronado 5.0L 307 4bbl-AOD(newly acquired Sept. 98). 
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0L 302 EFI HO-AOD-3.27 gears
     inner fender baffle removed-K+N.
1992 Ford F-250 Reg-Cab 4WD 7.5L 460 EFI-E4OD Auto-3.55 gears.
     3-inch converter-dual outlet flowmaster 3 chamber.
     Complete K+N(no more factory air-box)-ADS Super Chip-Spitfires-
     Accel Super Coil-Cap-Rotor & 8.8 wires.
1994 Toyota Camry Sedan 4-banger-(Wow we could have had a V6!)-"mili
     -liter"-AOD. K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!) 
     My SO's rider

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:27:38 EST
From: GraphixRUs@aol.com
Subject: roll call

Roger Utter
I guess I am the old man here -  61 - retiring in oct.
ex yankee
presently  - Thomasville , nc
diesel mechanic in Navy in '55 to '60
Structural Steel Draftsman  - off on disability - crohns disease ( anyone
else have it ?)

Spend most of my time with my quadraplegic son & working on Jason Doby
Project.
 
I, like Mike,  think Olds is the best  engineered  auto in America.

I have 5  older Old's to restore for my 5 grandchildren.
64 cutlass 2-dr  ht    not running  needs restoration   will be pro street
- -455 toro
64  442  2-dr ht        not running   needs restoration  have orig running
gear
64  442  2 dr coupe   not running  needs restoration have orig running gear
65  442  2- dr ht        not running  needs restoration have orig running gear
67  442  2-dr ht         not running  needs restoration
66  cutlass conv    wifes  car - working on it
65  1/8 mi bracket car  - 1.56   60 ft  - 7.90  1/8  - bone stock 68  - 400
3.42 gear

Jason Doby Project  70 Cutlass "S",  may become a divorce issue _ not really -
Barb is a good woman.

  My  beast - 68  W-30   just needs rear bumper & bucket  covers. - had it for
5 years & haven't attended a show yet. I hope to go to Spring Charlotte with
our chapter ( Mid Atlantic Chapter Olds Club of America)
We are working  with Smokey Mountain  & another chapter on putting on the
Southeast Regional in Seviervillle, Tn. july15-17. Anyone interested in
attending - e-mail me or better yet call  :  Alan Maples  423-938-6985.  Floyd
Garrett's museum is there.  I only wish Rog II & I could go.
Sorry guys  - didn't mean this to be an autobiography.
Those of you that know me - understand .
Roger

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:36:51 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Muffler/Resonator?

It was always my understanding that a muffler was there to
do the majority of the work in "muffling" the exhaust noise.
The function of a resonator was more along the lines of 
tuning the exhaust note hence the glasspack design.
In the US resonators are fairly uncommon but most
european cars have them due to the more stringent noise
regulations.  Basically they're used to get rid of those
wierd "resonating" sounds that happen at certain rpm
when using low restriction mufflers.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/


<< is there a functional difference between
> "mufflers" and "resonators"?   >>
>
>I'd like to know the answer also. My 56 190SL has both.
>Bruce
>75 Delta 88 Conv. (duals of course)

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:47:53 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: FS 66-69 Cutlass/4-4-2 parts

> I saw the ad and was wondering if you had any good sheetmetal off the 69.
> I'm
> getting ready to jump in and do a frame off on my 442 conv.
> 
> 
Firewall, roof, driver floor pan.  That's all right now.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:08:50 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

Harry's is pretty cool. Definately stop and check out the old antique
section.  ~Lots~ of old cars, stuff you don't see around anymore.

Yeah,  all the cars are off the ground, so there is easy underneath access.
All categorized first by decade?  Like all 60-70, 70-80 cars in one area,
then broken down into make, so all cevys, olds, fords, have their own rows.
You shouldn't get lost it's not quite like they advertise.  Don't get me
wrong, it is big, but there is another yard right next to it dealing in late
model stuff.  They are affiliated with harry's but separate.  Makes for an
impressive picture though.

Plan on a good half a day even if you don't get anything.  It's so cool to
just walk around and look at all the cars.  They probably have at least one
of everything.

Entrance fee is $1.00.  Prices are real good but they get you for just about
everything attached to it.  For example.  Picked up a power seat mechanism
there.  Their price list says something like $5.00.  I get to the window,
turns out to be $15.  $5 each for left and right tracks, and $5 for the
motor.  But still a good deal IMO.

Have fun, let us know if there is anything good there.

Bill Reilly
mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
Web Page: (Not yet)

My Garage:
'83 Cutlass Ciera
'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
'85 Cutlass Supreme


- -----Original Message-----
From: EJ <oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net>


>Greetings all. Anybody been to Harry's ?. I seem to recall some mention
>of this at some point, somewhere in the past.
>
>I see in the commercials that all cars are suppossed to be off the
>ground, and they have some ridiculous amount of acerage there(thought
>they might have said a 100 in the commercial). Anyway, are the cars
>seperated/organized by make or manufacturer to make things easy to find?
>Or should I take a sleeping bag, and expect to only be able to write
>home on weekends ? ;).
>
>TIA
>EJ
>--
>"EJ"  In Hamilton Township, New Jersey, suburb of Trenton
>On digest where availabile, not regular mail
>http://members.tripod.com/Olds_luvr/photoalbum/photoalbum/index.html
>E-Mail: oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net

>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:16:21 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: Resto $$

> The car was done privately in a garage setting. It was done with me
> helping
> out(with what I can) by a friend. This included a color change and the car
> originally had minor dents and only 2 minor rust spots. The car is
> beautiful(I will soon post BEFORE/AFTER pictures) and I believe with some
> minor detailing can be a show winner. The car was not restored to
> "factory"
> specs, but was restored to a correct but some custimization. For example,
> the column and metal portion of the dash is body color as opposed to the
> "factory correct" color that would be interior color. The vinyl dash is
> black. It has a 6 speaker system inwhich the speakers are hidden in the
> rear side panels WITHOUT HACKING the panels. ETC>ETC>> 
> 
Ah, that changes things a bit.  Working out a deal with a friend definitely
helps costs.  I'd be very interested in seeing before and after pics.  And
maybe sometime this summer when I go up to Bolingbrook (SW burb of Chicago)
with my W-31 to see my brother, we can get together to so I can see it in
person.
It sounds like you got a great deal and if your happy with the results then
that's all that matters.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:18:07 EST
From: GraphixRUs@aol.com
Subject: Re: Resto $$

Peter, 
 Been there done  that . 
 This Jason Doby Project  lacks only 10 bolts from being a frame off.
 It was just the body shell of a 70 Cutlass "S" 2 dr ht, donated by  Rusell
Doss in     greensboro. Only the right front fender & right door were
salvagable but it was a place to start .
  I have been working in my little two car garage on it since last august.
What a pain sand blasting the frame & underbody on jack stands. I am now
working on the rear  patch panels.
 I still need both front fender  patch panels - anyone have them they can
donate?
 I had to fabricate the rears & I am NO SHEET METAL MAN.
  I sure hope Jason likes it.
  Some of you guys on this list have been a big help, donating even a lighted
inide mirror, outside mirors , COMPLETE RECONDITIONED  AC system , etc.  Keep
it coming. Auto Zone  -- complete ( except springs ) suspension  rebuild
components. 
 Chris Sommerville - list  member - has been a help -radiator core support &
other  small items.
  We need a black , split front bench seat & rear seat or at least new cover .
  Our regional director  , Glenn Williamson has been in contact with Joe
Mondello &  we hope wook is progressing on the engine & trans  _ donated by
Joe  as far as we know at present.
  Anyone or organization will be recognized . Plans are for   TV & newspaper
coverage. We have no "presentation date" yet. It will depend on the parts
donations & & the monetary donations. In all reality it will probably be
Spring Charlotte  2000 unless we get real lucky. & can make Fall Charlotte
1999.
  Anyone interested in  contributing  or needing more info can contact :
  Britt Lineberger
  1310 Victory St.
  Greensboro, nc
  27407
  336-294-4343 
   or   e-mail  me.

 I  have had a couple  of negative commeints about doing  a resto  of an Olds
for a young man that started out with a Buick. My only comment is - it's the
kid not the car.
 Again ---  Thanks to Mr. Greg Beaulieu for  his putting up with all this.
 Thanks  list
Roger Utter

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:28:21 +0000
From: Robert Lavey <rjlavey@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

At 05:53 PM 2/16/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Just curious...how many Oldsmobilers do we have here, where y'all from, and
>what do you do to pay the restoration/gas/insurance/tire bills?  I'll start:
>
>Drew A. Durigan
>Hays, Kansas
>Midday personality on Mix103FM, one of three co-owned Radio, Inc. stations
>here in Western Kansas.

Bob Lavey
Boise, Idaho
1968 442 Convertible
1968 442 Sport Coupe
Firmware Engineer, Hewlett-Packard Company (Color LaserJet Division)

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ----
 Robert J. Lavey			mailto://rjlavey@uswest.net
 13243 W. Dahlia Dr.			Home:  (208) 939-5418
 Boise, ID  83713-1302			Fax:   (208) 939-5452
- 
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-

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:35:56 -0500
From: Uncle Pete <pteubel@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

At 07:14 AM 2/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Greetings all. Anybody been to Harry's ?. I seem to recall some mention
>of this at some point, somewhere in the past.

I go there at least 3 times a year (its 6 hrs from me).  Yes, they have an
incredible amount of cars.  Not much in the way of pre-70 cars, but LOTS of
80s-90s cars.  They're prices are VERY reasonable.  Everything is flat
rate......REGARDLESS of condition.  Sometimes you can find an old gem.  I
picked up an engine and tranny for my '51 98 for $100.  Also got ALL trim &
brightwork for my '82 98 for $15.....I mean *ALL*.

If you ge there, plan to make it a whole-day affair.  Bring a lunch or they
have a snackbar (w/hot foods) right in the yard.


Uncle Pete
'51 98
'82 98
'86 Ciera

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:46:10 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

Where exactually is Hazelton, PA? Say in relation to
York/Altoona/Pittsburg/Reading. I don't have a map handy right now.
Thanks

Omega Man
'74 Omega S 455

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:48:18 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

north eastern Pa.   Hot Rod Harry from South Jersey

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:56:30 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Dave Wyatt
Dana, IN
44 years young
Compliance Technician for Eli Lilly & Co.
With Lilly since May 1973
70 4-4-2 since October 1973
One wife since November 1974
Two boys since 1982 an 1985



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 99 09:03 EST
From: Allen_R_MONROE@umail.umd.edu (am39)
Subject: Re: roll call 

OK, since Greg did it, then I'll go ahead too.


Allen Monroe
Teaching Lab Coordinator  Physics Department. University Of Maryland
37, Married with five Kids

69 H/O
73 H/O
84 Ciera 3.8L MPFI
86 Custom Cruiser
and several other no-name brands
 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:13:19 -0600
From: "Johnson, Samuel" <SJohnso6@allstate.com>
Subject: C chamber heads

Anybody in the Chicago land area have any C chamber heads for sale?

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:17:43 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: 77 Hurst Prototype FS

LEAD FOR CAR FORSALE! Prototype 77 Hurst Olds. Appeared in many 77 car
magazine articles. High performance 403,worked auto.,3.42 posi rear,true dual
exhaust,Special T-Roof,tach,rear spoiler,front end,original hand painted
stripes.Still titled in Hurst name! 44,000 miles.All original car. One of a
kind. Asking 10,000 Owners email is KEV442@AOL.COM   His phone number is
732-363-4543...............
                                    Hot Rod Harry   can be seen on my webpage
in the 73-77 Garage area     http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:30:18 EST
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cut off tool

i have one , and i got it from blue point,  there part of the snap-on company.
they do work great!  i got mine off the tool truck one day when it came by the
local tire shop. i used to have an account with them and would meet them there
to pay, or pick up new tools.   hope this helps.  steven, w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:34:24 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Wanted-Front End for 74 Cutlass S/442

Need a Header Panel or whole front end of a 74 Cutlass S , 442 , Hurst Olds.
Must be in good condition. Hot Rod Harry from South Jersey

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:43:55 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Brighter lights?

> These are the lights with removable bulbs inside of the larger
> glass fixture. If you get a rock chip you replace the outer part,
> if you burn out a bulb you replace the small inner bulb.  They are
> _not_ sealed beam.

Whoa, all bets are off, then. I'm sure you can find high-power bulbs
that would max out the headlight switch circuit breaker. Adding a
relay was a good idea.

As for off-the-shelf halogen sealed-beams, though, those will swap
in to older cars just fine.

- -- Andy

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:59:58 -0600
From: Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com
Subject: RE: interior swap

I'm going to jump in with a question while you guys are all looking at
the brackets for these seats.

I have a 68 cutlass conv with bench seats (50/50 split).  I'd like to
keep them that way.  But right now I can't get the passenger side to
engage into a hold position.....makes for some exciting rides if your
the passenger.


Any advice??

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	DYeager535@aol.com [SMTP:DYeager535@aol.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, February 17, 1999 9:09 PM
> To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject:	Re: interior swap
> 
> In a message dated 2/17/99 7:02:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> kgrant442@home.com writes:
> 
> << I put buckets and a console in my 80 Cutlass the problem is you
> need the
>  brackets off the floor of a donor car. If your car has a 60/40 spilt
> bench
>  you should be able to put the seats in without any problem but you
> will
>  still need the brackets for the console. Also you will need to put
> them in
>  the right location on your car so you won't have problems with the
> shifter
>  cable. If you would like any other information let me know.
>  
>  Kevin Grant >>
> 
>        Kevin, I may tackle a similar project at a later date...my
> question is
> about the floor brackets for the seats, from a one piece bench, to the
> buckets. Are the "plates" (I assume they have welded nuts
> w/reinforcement to
> the floors for the brackets) that hold the brackets there for bench
> AND
> buckets, or did you have to rig it up yourself?  Dorian

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:03:31 -0600
From: Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com
Subject: RE: Screen Saver Pics

What format do you need??  bitmaps.....jpg.....????

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	dgerow@coal.stonehill.edu [SMTP:dgerow@coal.stonehill.edu]
> Sent:	Wednesday, February 17, 1999 10:05 PM
> To:	Oldsmobile List
> Subject:	Screen Saver Pics
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Well, I promised a new screen saver a while ago and I'm on it.
> However,
> I am trying to get the best pics possible.  That is where you all come
> in.  I need pictures of the following years:
> 
> Pre '66
> '68
> Any decent Rallye 350 pics
> 
> Remember, this one will be a 442/Cutlass themed screen saver, so all
> you
> full-size fiends, I'll get to you later.
> Lastly, I know beggars cannot be choosers, but aesthetically speaking,
> please make sure the pics are decent and clear.  I am VERY particular
> about my source images.  The larger they are the better.  I start at
> over 1024x768 and work my way down.  So, I implore any of you out
> there
> who can hook me up with some images to do so.  As soon as I'm done,
> I'll
> post it on my webpage and you can have your fill.
> 
> And as always, PLEASE make sure that all pictures come to be
> privately.
> I'll take any and all comment and ??'s as well.
> 
> Thanks for your time and concern.
> 
> Dan Gerow
> 
> '69 4-4-2
> '71 Cutlass Supreme
> 
> --
> ------------------------------------
> Daniel R. Gerow
> dgerow@stonehill.edu
> http://www.stonehill.edu/wshl
> http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
> ------------------------------------
> 

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:00:23 EST
From: Zitoj@aol.com
Subject: Re: FS 66-69 Cutlass/4-4-2 parts

Chris,

Thanks for the quick answer, those parts are all ok on my hulk....
Thanks,

Jim

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:57:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Efton March <eftonm@crss.gar.esys.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

OK, here goes:

Efton March
Oracle DBA
Raytheon Systems Company, Garland, TX

72 Cutlass S (Hopefully to the body shop in the next few days!)
93 Jeep Cherokee Sport (my daily driver - formerly my wife's car)
96 F*rd Aerostar (kidmobile and my wife's current ride)

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:07:42 EST
From: Zitoj@aol.com
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

Anybody got a street address for this place?

TIA,
Jim
69 442 conv

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:12:34 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Roll call

Way to go, Greg!!  Now, JOE PADAVANO, it's your turn.  What's the scoop on
you?  Don't get quiet on us now.
______

Well, you know, I was refraining from joining in on this thread, just
waiting for Greg to put a stop to the waste of bandwidth, but since _HE'S_
jumped in...

Joe Padavano
Clifton, VA
Program Manager, Space Systems Group, Orbital Sciences Corporation

1966 442 Convert (Numbers-matching, PW, PSeat, Tilt, L-69  - Currently a
bare shell with body-off in process)
1968 W-30 Holiday Coupe (Numbers-matching, PW, PSeat, Tilt, UHV, 4 spd,
4.33:1)
1969 H/O (PS and PDB _only_)
1969 442 Holiday Coupe (Numbers-matching, A/C, PDB, 3.23:1 Posi)
1970 W-30 Holiday Coupe (the notorious "Dirty W-30" - 4 spd, PDB, and needs
lots of work)
1985 Chevy Crewcab Dually 4x4 (201K miles, 454, about to be sold)
1999 Chevy Crewcab Dually 4x4 (Loaded, 454, and less than two weeks old!)

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:49:37 -0600
From: cdemps@lsumc.edu (Dempsey, Charles)
Subject: What A Body radiator for a '71 VC?

Hi List,

My '71 Vista Cruiser 455 project is moving along nicely. I got the new
left spindle installed Sunday (Thanks Jim) and she's back on all four
feet.

While replacing the water pump last night I discovered that the radiator
is not correct. It is a 2 row with a heater hose nipple (currently
plugged) just below the filler cap. The numbers "7 37 57" appear on a
little metal tag below this nipple. Two questions;

1. What radiator is correct for a '71 VC 455 air, and what year/model
car am I likely to find one in? Anybody got one? I want a 4 row.

2. What does this weird thing I've got fit? I never saw an Oldsmobile
that had a heater hose running back into the radiator.

If you reply please cc:cdemps@lsumc.edu.

Thanks,
Charles

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:50:45 -0500 (EST)
From: jhbII <jh2nlla@noblecan.org>
Subject: SPRING---Training

     Hey List,   Baseball SPRING!!!Training is underway...a sure sign that
SPRING is near. A bit of trivia here:How many career Home Runs did
Dave"KingKong"Kingman hit?
Chris Smetana you are not allowed to answer!!!!
THINK SPRING!!!!Jack

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:51:30 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

In a message dated 02/18/1999 12:12:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dgerow@coal.stonehill.edu writes:

<< Sorry to bother you all again, but I want to let you know the cutoff point
 for vehicles is '72.  Due to the body style change, I would rather not
 include any '73- on models in this ss.  I hope you understand.  Again, thank
 you everyone for the pictures.  I can't guarantee that I'll use 'em all, but
 I do appreciate it, and I know the list does as well.  Take care!
  >>

This might get Hot Rod Harry and a few others on the list upset.  I guess your
next project will be the '73 - '77 models.  Thanks for your hard work.  I'm
sure everyone one the list appreciates your efforts.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:48:25 -0600 (CST)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Conv't Top Replacement

Dear Olds-Friends, 

talking about tops: 

I received a new top from the former owner of my car. It seems to be in 
single "canvas" peaces! It seems it has to be sewn together! Is this 
normal?? Does this mean that it was cheap and installation will be more 
$$? 

Scary...

Regards, George


- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:10:22 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

In a message dated 02/18/1999 8:47:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ggilpin@wrallp.com writes:

<< Where exactually is Hazelton, PA? Say in relation to
 York/Altoona/Pittsburg/Reading. I don't have a map handy right now.
 Thanks
  >>
 It's in Eastern PA.  Not too far from where Routes 80 and 81 meet.  Maybe an
hour south of Scranton and 2 hours north of Harrisburg.  This is a guess just
by looking at the map.  Hope this helps.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:06:50 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics

Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com wrote:

> What format do you need??  bitmaps.....jpg.....????

Sorry, pics can be in any format you got.  Prefferably JPG or PSD.  Thanks!

Keep 'em coming...I need mucho pre '66!

Dan Gerow

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:17:37 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: What A Body radiator for a '71 VC?

Do yourself a favor and go buy a new radiator.  Finding one to fit may not be
hard, but finding one that is good will be.
The shops have listings that go back many years and will know what one fits
your car.  I just purchased a new 3 row Modine radiator for my '81 m*libu for
$125 plus sales tax.  It is close to the same size as the A body radiator, so
the price should be close.  I know that is somewhat less than they usually
sell for around here, but I got mine from West Radiator in Indianapolis,
Indiana at 317-780-9378.  I have purchased from them before and got the same
type of great deal.  It beats the locals $200+ prices.  FWIW, I had my
original 1970 radiator re-cored at a local shop so I could keep my original
tanks.  It cost me $100 for a new 3 row core.  I chose that route as all the
new radiators come equipped with auto trans. coolers which I don't need or
want.

The one you have now is probably out of a GM pick up truck.  They had the
return from the heater hose going to the radiator in place of the water pump.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:20:58 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Roll call

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM wrote:
> Well, you know, I was refraining from joining in on this thread, just
> waiting for Greg to put a stop to the waste of bandwidth, but since _HE'S_
> jumped in...

Heck, after the week I've had here, this seems pretty minor. :)

Normally I would stop this stuff, but I've learned that they are sort of
like the common cold: if you don't take any action it lasts 14 days, but
if you fight it right from the start it takes 2 weeks to disappear. And
besides, it's been a while, there are lots of new folks, and maybe if we
got to know each other better there would be less of the bickering that
has clouded our sunny dispositions of late. That's my story, and... well,
you know... ;-) 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:21:02 -0500
From: Doug Ahern <doug@mail.RATH.PeachNet.EDU>
Subject: Re: Resto $$

There is a lot to consider when looking for someone to do auto restoration.
When you go to the shop, express interest in the other cars he's working
on.  Ask to take a closer look and inspect his in-progress-work in process.

See if you can talk to others he's don't restos for.

As far as the W-30 stripes go, ask him how he is going to go about that,
and if he has ever done it before.  if you want to show it, it'll need to
be exact.  Where will he get the stripe kit, and measurements.  

single stage or dual stage paint? (dual stage has a base coat then a 
clear top coat).  

does $2300 include paint and materials? 

$2300 is a good price for all that work.  Its a low price too.  You might
expect to be out of car for 3-4 months minimum.

The most important thing is that you trust the shop, and you've seen their 
finished products and their work-in-progress.  

If its taking longer than he initially quotes you, don't get too upset,
be patient.  In body work, good things come to those who wait.  If he says
14 days, and you start called everyday begining day 13,  he isn't going to be
happy, and you want him to be happy.

who is it?  perhaps someone else here on this list has had work done by
him in the past... 

good luck,
Doug

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:22:23 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

E-Z Pull and Save is just 20 miles south of there.  It is a decent yard
which is broken up just like you say, but it may be necessary to bring a
sleeping bag and a light toolbox, since it is on the side of a
mountain.  Good stuff there, but mostly stripped already.  I got a
working power antenna there for $7.00, so sometimes it may be worth the
drive (just over two hours).  I would like to know more about Harry's as
well.  I know it has been on the list before, but I just don't
remember.  Bad part is, I think I was one of the ones to bring it up....
Brian.

EJ wrote:
> 
> Greetings all. Anybody been to Harry's ?. I seem to recall some mention
> of this at some point, somewhere in the past.
> 
> I see in the commercials that all cars are suppossed to be off the
> ground, and they have some ridiculous amount of acerage there(thought
> they might have said a 100 in the commercial). Anyway, are the cars
> seperated/organized by make or manufacturer to make things easy to find?
> Or should I take a sleeping bag, and expect to only be able to write
> home on weekends ? ;).
> 
> TIA
> EJ
> --
> "EJ"  In Hamilton Township, New Jersey, suburb of Trenton
> On digest where availabile, not regular mail
> http://members.tripod.com/Olds_luvr/photoalbum/photoalbum/index.html
> E-Mail: oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net
>                                The "Fleet"
> 1979 Pontiac "Olds organ donor" Trans Am T-tops Rebuilt Olds 6.6L 403
>      4bbl-TH350 Performer Cam and Intake.....going into the Calais
>      For Sale.
> 1984 Olds Cutlass Calais T-Tops 5.0L 307 4bbl-TH350-2.14 gears K+N.....
>      soon to be 6.6L 403 4bbl, and hopefully some better "rear" gears
> 1985 Olds Toronado 5.0L 307 4bbl-AOD(newly acquired Sept. 98).
> 1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0L 302 EFI HO-AOD-3.27 gears
>      inner fender baffle removed-K+N.
> 1992 Ford F-250 Reg-Cab 4WD 7.5L 460 EFI-E4OD Auto-3.55 gears.
>      3-inch converter-dual outlet flowmaster 3 chamber.
>      Complete K+N(no more factory air-box)-ADS Super Chip-Spitfires-
>      Accel Super Coil-Cap-Rotor & 8.8 wires.
> 1994 Toyota Camry Sedan 4-banger-(Wow we could have had a V6!)-"mili
>      -liter"-AOD. K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!)
>      My SO's rider

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:25:44 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

From the crude map given on my junkyard price sheet, I would guess it to
be about an hour north of Reading.  Maybe a little more.
Brian.

Gene Gilpin wrote:
> 
> Where exactually is Hazelton, PA? Say in relation to
> York/Altoona/Pittsburg/Reading. I don't have a map handy right now.
> Thanks
> 
> Omega Man
> '74 Omega S 455

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