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oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, January 31 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1744



RE: Primming of Engine
Re: Bench to Buckets Swap????????
Re: 66-400 Price
Re: Got the Toro
600 Holly on a 455
Re: Primming of Engine
Bondurant School Uses Olds!
Re: Bench to Buckets Swap????????
Re: A Good Book
Front End
break in the weather/A.I.R. pump
header site
Re: Quarter Panel Installation Expensive?
engine rebuild..main bearing caps
Re: Parts FS
Re: [Priming and an idea(Was Re: Vaseline Talk / Engine Rebuilding / Priming)]
OCA Web Site Update ('99 Nat's Logo!!)
Non Olds (Web Resource)
FS: 1975 olds conv delta 88
Re: Need a solution to my Key problem
Who's parts?
Re: '79 Olds W-30
Re: 600 Holly on a 455
'72 H/O intake casting #'s
Eastwood Co
web page
Re: Where is everybody?
repair manuals
Re: Where is everybody?
Adara scanner (non olds)
Re: break in the weather/A.I.R. pump
Fwd: Jason Doby Project
Re: Need suggestions for a personalized plate ('68 442 conv.) 
Re: Have 2 Olds Convertibles......
Re: engine rebuild..main bearing caps
project
Date:	Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:02:16 PST
Rod Knock
Edelbrock Performer 455
Re: Rod Knock
Rod Knock
My Classic Car Olds
UNBOUNCE: Need '71 Delta Service Manual
Got the Toro, need a manual
spam
Re: Adara scanner (non olds)
How about...(Re: suggestions for a personalized plate) 
Re: How about...(Re: suggestions for a personalized plate)
Working on Max...vacuum schematic
Wipers
Re: Wipers
Interesting item on eBay web site item#61197697: 1968 Oldsmobile 98 Convertible
Re: Edelbrock Performer 455
Re: [Re: Wipers]
Urgent! HEI weights: which way?

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:53:07 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Primming of Engine

And to rub some oil around the top of the new filter, on the gasket part of
it.  And don't be a gorilla when you tighten an oil filter!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Mike Bloomer
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 6:26 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Primming of Engine


Only trick there is to fill the new filter with oil so that when you fire
the motor it takes less time to get oil press.  If you have a vehicle
with a horizontal filter you can't do this though.  A regular olds
oil filter will hold 1/2 to 3/4 of a quart, depending on how long you
let the oil soak in.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/



>I.m new to this car stuff and I am finding the list very imforative. I
>read with interest the discussions on primming after a rebuild.  Do you
>suggest anything special after a oil and filter change?

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:07:44 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bench to Buckets Swap????????

In a message dated 1/30/99 1:52:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dr-Olds@webtv.net
writes:

<< Yep, it says
 the outer tracks will fit on the existing studs and
 they have a bracket-  P/N  DL108 which is
 a set of brackets for both buckets for mounting
 the inside tracks.  This catalog lists them at
 $27 per pair, but it might be last years book.
 1-800-950-9503.   >>


I have the Fall 98 catalog and they are still in there at the same price.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:58:23 -0500
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: 66-400 Price

Where u located at rob van vleet?

olds442@en.com

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:04:19 EST
From: StepHydro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Got the Toro

In a message dated 99-01-30 17:49:24 EST, you write:

> Ray:
>  Do have a father, RE message other day, enjoy talking and F*cking with you,
>  take care guy!
>  Lou
>  PS Tell me more on the Tornado/year/etc


Lou,

I can't decode the above..Name's Don and dad's dead.

Totonado is a 68, standard, nothing fancy as far as equipment. the body is
sound, with just one bit of rust in front of the left rear wheelwell. There is
another spot that has been repaired above theright rear, but it semms to have
been from a dent rather than rust. 

Max has all the old car symptoms, leaking vacuum, oil, exhaust, and gas :-).
Electrical system is held together with baling wire, AC doesn't work, couple
power windows don't work, no panel lights. Transmission slightly judders if
you get on it hard in first (I've heard that a half pint of alcohol in the
tranny sometimes fixes that for a while???

Half the paint is primer, but I intend to do a paint job really soon, so I'm
not fussed about that.  Steering and suspension are sound, if a bit loose.

I mean to take care of all safety issues immediately, then convenience, then
paint, then interior. I expect to keep this car forever, so I am going to do
it right.

My teenage son, when he saw it and heard the engine, just said "Dude" about 10
times ;-)

I think I'm going to like this car.

Cheers/Don

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:31:08 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: 600 Holly on a 455

My van has a non-emissions Holly 600 with manual chock.  I believe that this
is the model 1850 or something to that effect.  The van (360 MOPAR) had a
spread-bore intake so I have the adapter as well.  I pulled the car and the
adapter (which acts like a spacer as well, I guess) off the van today, and
would like to rebuild it and try it  on my 455.  I have a new Q-jet, around
700 CFM or so and since I have this holly, I would like to try it as well.
I like the q-jet, but car-crafting is all about trial and error.  So, I
would like to rebuilt this thing and give it a shot.  Always gave great
throttle response and good top end on the van (but it also had 4.10s).
Anyone ever ran this on a 455.  My RPMs never exceed 4500 ever.  Should I or
should I not try it.  Igor.

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:22:17 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Primming of Engine

In a message dated 1/30/99 6:52:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
costanzo@netcarrier.com writes:

<< And to rub some oil around the top of the new filter, on the gasket part of
 it.  >>

I always use a little wheel bearing grease on the gasket. Every gas station or
dealership I worked at did this. 

<<  And don't be a gorilla when you tighten an oil filter!>> 

Never use the filter wrench to tighten the filter, only to remove it.  Tighten
the new filter by hand only.

Just my .02

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:58:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Bondurant School Uses Olds!

I saw this program on TLC last night, the Secret World of Automobiles. 
They had a segment on the Bondurant School of Performance Driving, with
Steve Miller, the rock guitarist, as student. They use Mustangs for the
high speed stuff, but he seems to have a fleet of '77-'79 Deltas and 98s
to use in the heavy-duty anti-terrorist parts of the curriculum... how to
spin another car off the road, to nudge a roadblocking vehicle out of the
way, etc. It was no contest when the senior series took on a Honda!

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:54:28 EST
From: Sxolds455@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bench to Buckets Swap????????

Hello about the seat swap, you will need to get the inner brackets for the
bucket seat, they need to be welded or pop riveted to the floor near the
center hump. there is a difference in the brackets too, 70's are different
from 71-72 brackets, and the floor is stamped differently too, if you need a
set let me know because i have a set out of a 70 cutlass S I stripped apart.
Hope this helps you out! 

Michael (Supreme70@aol.com)

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:24:07 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Good Book

In a message dated 1/30/99 3:19:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, GaryDW30@aol.com
writes:

<< I just received a copy of: OLDSMOBILE 442 & W-Machines Restoration Guide
 Anyone who doesn't have a copy I recommend it. Lots of specs. photos and
 numbers. >>

I agree this is a very good book, however not all of the info is correct.
Always double check if you can.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:35:04 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Front End

<< I need some assistance with my front end rebuild. I have the poly
graphite bushings. I need a tear down and reassembly discussion. I'm
gonna break into it tomorrow morning, but need to get some guidance so I
don't miss a thing and get it done right. >>

Try to get the March 1999 issue of Muscle Car Review,  there is a good "How
To" article on Coil Spring/Control Arm Bushing Replacement for '64 to '72 GM
A-Body cars.  It has step by step directions with pictures.  This should be
helpful.

Also in this issue, their Collectors' Signature Series Centerfold is a 1972
Hurst/Olds with "Miss Hurst" - Linda Vaughn.  Both the car and Linda look
great.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:54:14 -0800
From: "Andrew Conkey" <andrewc@novell.uidaho.edu>
Subject: break in the weather/A.I.R. pump

The weather has mellowed out around here, so I finally got around 
to changing out a defective front choke pull off. Will see the results 
next cold start (hopefully positive results!). 
Thanks to the list for previous posts on this problem.

Now another question. My AIR pump seems to be loud. Not 
bearing noise, but like a slight exhaust leak - that comes and goes 
under computer control (very predictable under certain conditions). 
The valve cycles on and off, and appears to be working ok.The 
noise is beginning to get on my nerves though. I've had the car for 
about 6 months and put about 5k miles on it - with no change in 
the sound. Is this normal? Its not super loud, but I definitely know 
when the valve is switching on/off. I remember noticing it on the 
test drive before I bought it. The previous owner said 'yeah - it does 
that'... Its a 307Y. 

thanks!


Andrew
84 Delta 88

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:28:32 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: header site

> Hey everybody. I found an excelent site about headers. These guys pull
> no punches. It has alot and I mean alot of info on headers and header
> design. It's a good (and long) read.
>
> Shane
>
> http://www.headersbyed.com/

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:49:35 -0500
From: dclover@epix.net
Subject: Re: Quarter Panel Installation Expensive?

Well, it isn't cheap to do, at least not from who I talked to to get my
'70 Supreme done.   Went to several good, reputable body shops to see
about body work and paint to get it back on the road.   Paint real bad,
body had some rust and leaky seams in the trunk over the wheel wells,
and rusted thru areas over the rear wheel openings.  All in all, it
wasn't terrible, but thought I'd get an idea what it would cost for the
"whole thing".

The lowest price I got including replacement of both quarters, all body
work and repaint was "about" $3500.  The guy said that the quarters
replacement was adding about $2000 to the job, with the parts costing
about $900.  No doubt, it was good quality work, but it wasn't even
frame off!   All this for a daily driver...  I don' theenk so!

Ended up with fair quality repair (not great but passible for my needs)
of the exterior damage & rust and pretty decent paint job for $650. 
Body work won't last 5 years, but by then I'll hit the lottery and do it
right! ;-)

As far as the door guard, I had OEM chrome/stainless steel/pot metal
pieces with bolts and clips on mine, low on the side panels in line with
the side marker lights, not really panel "guards", just decorative.  Are
yours rubber/plastic aftermarkets?  What about easy application of a
heat gun to ease the adhesive? Or a solvent, acetone, mineral spirits?

Good luck!

Dan J.
70 Cutlass Supreme Conv
"A work in progress..."


Mike Bubb wrote:
> 
> While preparing to paint my '70 Supreme convertible, I've been
> unpleasantly
> surprised by some severe rust damage (and poor repair attempts) around
> both
> rear wheel wells.  Year One sells quarter panels, as well as just the
> sections of the quarter panel around the wheel well.
> 
> What should I expect to pay to have the panels installed?
>

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:33:57 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: engine rebuild..main bearing caps

      Hi all..need some assistance. After attempting to keep all the parts in
the order they should be, my main bearing caps got mixed up. I know the
1,2,3,4 is from front to rear, but which side (driver or passenger) is the
1,2, etc supposed to be on? I remember that the 1,2 were all on the same side,
but I assume 1 is the #1 cylinder, but I don't want to take chances....'77
403. Thanks, Dorian

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:35:15 -0500
From: toddmorr@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Parts FS

The console came with the car when I bought it, although it wasn't
installed.  The prior owner had removed it when he installed a special
hurst shifter because it wouldn't accommodate the new shifter.  My 442 is a
71.  As to parts missing, the silver trim piece is there, as is the vinyl
locking door, the top piece immediately in the front of the "armrest" is
gone, and there is nothing but a 4 inch or so square hole where the shifter
would protrude, maybe that is as designed?

Todd Morris
Mgr. High End System Sales
8/262-1658 or 301-803-1658, or fax -2865
6710 Rockledge Drive, Bethesda, MD 20817



"jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com> on 01-30-99 04:19:21 PM

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Subject:  Re: Parts FS








>console, black, missing some parts, $75
What pieces are missing, What year is it for?  I am interested in buying
it.

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Date: 30 Jan 99 19:12:06 PST
From: Jon Hart <hartjon@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Priming and an idea(Was Re: Vaseline Talk / Engine Rebuilding / 
Priming)]

I have seen oil priming systems for engines but mainly in diesel applications.
Cold start is tough but with the proper oil viscosity and a good oil pump wear
is minimized. I don't feel idling is as bad as start up because the enine is
running. Heat does build up but that is handled by the cooling system. Look at
police cars and cabs. They idle extensively but with the proper maintenence
they run for many miles.

Jon Hart
83 98
98 Malibu
72 Chevelle


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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:09:16 -0500
From: "Brad Nicholson" <brad442@erols.com>
Subject: OCA Web Site Update ('99 Nat's Logo!!)

All,
Just updated the OCA Web Site at
http://www.oldsclub.org

The logo for the 1999 OCA nationals is there BEFORE BEING PRINTED IN JWO!!!
ALL registration forms are available there as well as hotel info, event
schedule, etc.

As usual, send me criticizms or compliments.  I'm getting a handle on
Microsquishes BackPage98.  Thanks to everyone who sent advise, it was Theme
related.

BTW - OCA membership director says thet the email for her at the web site
helps her out and responds back within 2-3 days usually about MEMBERSHIP
questions.

Next update will have 1998 Nationals pictures and more Olds history.

Later

 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson (OCA's WebGuy)
| | | webguy@oldsclub.org
|/|\| brad442@erols.com
| | | 1987 442
 ---  1996 Eighty Eight LSS

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:50:52 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Non Olds (Web Resource)

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This can be considered somewhat Olds related  but often there=20
are posts on the list asking for URL's to various companies.  I
ran across the SEMA links page which has just about any
aftermarket company you can think of listed.  Best part is it's
searchable and alphabetized so looking a company up is very
easy.  I find myself using it all the time and it has some pretty
obscure stuff in it so your bound to find what your looking for.
Heres the link:

http://www.sema.org/hyperlinks/

Just thought I'd share since things have been so slow.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/


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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:59:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: FS: 1975 olds conv delta 88

From the newsgroups...

If interested, contact them directly.

>1975 olds conv delta 88 nice car color red white top$3,500
>> E-mail rr7286@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:17:02 EST
From: Dave Paulison <dpauliso@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Need a solution to my Key problem

I agree, it's very interesting.  My Olds has one key for the ignition &
doors (the square headed key) and another for the glovebox & trunk (the
oval headed one).  Most other GM cars I've seen also have this feature. 

Dave Paulison       1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
Palm Bay, Florida   1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
dpauliso@juno.com

Rebel1 <rebel1@raex.com> writes:
>Rock Man,
>    That's kind of interesting... my '69 has a different key for the 
>trunk
>than the doors, as did my '70 Cutlass S.

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:17:02 EST
From: Dave Paulison <dpauliso@juno.com>
Subject: Who's parts?

Someone posted a list of some parts they had for sale and I accidentally
deleted it.  Please send me privately the list of parts you had for sale.
 A few I can remember are a Muncie with a bad 2nd gear cluster for $150,
some bucket seats for $50.  Hopefully you know who you are!

Thanks!

Dave Paulison       1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
Palm Bay, Florida   1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
dpauliso@juno.com

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:08:27 PST
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: '79 Olds W-30

Hi Jim,

Welcome to the Olds list.  When you check out the Olds get the vin or 
Vehicle Identification Number.  You can find a breakdown of the vin code 
at Bryceman's site.  www.442.com

It will help you know what the car really is, specific model (SX, 
Supreme, etc.).  I hope this list proves informative to you as it has 
for me.

Happy Cruisin', 

Chris Rivier
Austin,TX
'66 Delta 88...The BEAST is BACK!
'88 Festiva...ZIPPY 166K LAWN ORNAMENT!


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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:09:26 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: 600 Holly on a 455

Well, I have a 650 Holley Double Pumper on a 330, so I'd say its too little,
just my 2 c.
kelly
1966 Cutlass

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:03:18 -0500
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: '72 H/O intake casting #'s

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Can someone please tell me what the correct intake for a '72 H/O should =
be?

According to the FAQ intake # 404521 was used with AT and MT trannys =
from '70 -'72, while number 407567 was for MT only trannies.=20

I want to put the correct intake on my '72 H/O (non-W-30). It has a =
Torker on it now. I have a 455 out of a '71 Delta 88 that I was going to =
swap the intake from, but the intake casting # is 407567.......I know it =
wasn't a stick shift car.

Is the FAQ wrong or is this not the original intake on the delta motor?

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:23:11 EST
From: GaryDW30@aol.com
Subject: Eastwood Co

Visited Eastwood Co. site last night for the first time.
Perhaps I'm the only one who has had this problem, but my system crashed.
I tried again today, same result! I was using Netscape 4.5
I also tried today using AOL 4.whatever, and the same problem, crashed big
time.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? How did you solve it?
What might I be doing wrong?

Gary

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:54:14 -0500
From: "R. Grant" <kgrant442@home.com>
Subject: web page

I would like to say that I have put my first web page up, most of it is
still under construction need to get some more pics.  If you would like to
see it you can get to it at

http://members.home.net/kgrant442

Thanks
Kevin Grant
80 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:21:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Larry <kajrav@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Where is everybody?

     Last time I checked there were 338 subsc*ibers and I think that
that includes digest mode too.  It seems that things slow down on the
weekends.  I suppose that everyone is working on their cars. :) Things
seem to pick up by monday night.




- ---"Kevin D. Wood" <Dr-Olds@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> Ok this may not be directly an Olds question,
> but here goes...
> 
> WHERE IS EVERYBODY!
> 
> I just joined this list a few days ago and the first
> couple of days I got bomb-biggidy-barded with
> email, and now on this fine, sunny Saturday
> everybody is gone!
> 
> Much Happiness Olds Folks.
> 
> A new subscriber- with high hopes,
> 
> Kevin D. Wood
> Hartford, WI
> Dr-Olds@webtv.net
> or kevwood@webtv.net
> 
> )<<{{}}'>
> 
> 

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:41:02 -0800
From: keith miller <nkm@uswest.net>
Subject: repair manuals

i am looking for a 71 delta 88
factory repair manual. any help
would be appreciated.
keith miller

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:27:09 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Where is everybody?

ok ok ok 

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:01:40 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Adara scanner (non olds)

Has anyone ever used an Adara scanner? I'm thinking about getting one to
help me finaly get a web page up.

Thanks

Shane

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:50:46 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak <jspajak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: break in the weather/A.I.R. pump

Andrew Conkey <andrewc@novell.uidaho.edu> wrote:
Now another question. My AIR pump seems to be loud. Not 
bearing noise, but like a slight exhaust leak - that comes and goes
under computer control (very predictable under certain conditions).
The valve cycles on and off, and appears to be working ok.The noise is
beginning to get on my nerves though. I've had the car for about 6
months and put about 5k miles on it - with no change in 
the sound. Is this normal? 

>Yep. It's normal. Both my 86 Cutlass and my 87 442, as well as my
Mom's 86 Cutlass, make this same sound from the AIR pump. Thank Uncle
Sam. Or turn up the stereo. :)




==
"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2"

John Pajak
Lexington Park, Maryland

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:47:56 EST
From: GraphixRUs@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Jason Doby Project

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In a message dated 1/24/99 2:31:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, JP OLDS write=
s:

<< Subj:=09macoca min.
 Date:=091/24/99 2:31:11 PM Eastern Standard Time
 From:=09JP OLDS  (sec.MACOCA)
 To:=09GraphixRUs
 CC:=09A442luvr

Olds list members:
None of you are  probably interested in our minutes but   the list of part=
s
needed for the Jason  Doby Project  might be of interest  - I hope.
 
                                                    Minutes of MAOCA
                                                      January 16, 199
Old Business:
 The Doby Project is progressing. The frame & under side of the  body is 8=
0%
sand blasted and is in the beginning stages of being put back together.  F=
rom
this point forward, any and all help on the project is needed and apprecia=
ted.
Cash donations by any club member or business is greatly appreciated as we=
ll..
Money is needed to help with incidentals that we need while working on the
car.  The following
 parts/systems are needed for the Doby Project. Please see what you can do=
 to
 sponsor parts or a system for the car.
 
 UNDER HOOD:
 fire wall pad, Fan clutch, wiper motor, 3 row radiator, motor mounts, bat=
tery
 tray, wiper blades, transmission mount 
 
 ELECTRICAL:
 engine wiring harness, head lamp harness, alternator, battery, battery ca=
bles
2 gauge, 
 
 BODY:
 front and rear bumpers, outside door handles, fender chrome, lock sets an=
d
 keys, all weather strips, windshield with antenna, sill plates, LF fender
patch
 panel, metal hood, hood hinges, Cutlass S grills, front fender eye brow
 molding, Cutlass S script for fenders and trunk. 
 
 INTERIOR
 black interior kit, window crank handles, inside door handles, turn signa=
l
 switch lever, black carpet and insulation pads, rear package tray, black
 headliner, black seat belts
 
 BRAKES:
 front and rear brakes shoes and drums, spring kits, brake lines (front),
wheel
 cylinders
 
 PAINT:
 2 gallons of primer, gallon of POR-15, 2 gallons black acrylic enamel pai=
nt,
 body caulk
 
 SUSPENSION:
 upper control arm bumpers, front and rear springs, 442 rear sway bar, rea=
r
axle
 seals, center link and idler arm, 
 
 RADIOS ETC:
 front and rear speakers, radio, 
 
 WHEELS AND TIRES:
 14=94 SS II wheels, tires, center caps, front wheel bearings and seals 
 
 New Business:
 *Charlotte Show...Again this year we will have approximately 35 to 40 car
 spaces available for our members.  Reserve your space soon. Last year all
 spaces were taken. That means that more people are interested and our gro=
up
 is increasing. 
 *It is now time for the nomination of new officers. Please either nominat=
e
 someone for office or express your wishes if you would like to serve as a=
n
officer
 of the club. Notify either an officer of the club or Roger Utter of your
 nomination. All nominations will be put to the club membership for a vote=
.
 Currently all officers are still serving their terms. 
 
 *The board of directors of the OCA  has voted that a chapter of the OCA
cannot sponsor or provide alcoholic beverages at any functions. 
 
 meeting adjourned
Julian Hilton

 To the Olds List participants : ANYONE donating either parts or money wil=
l be
recognized by Mid Atlantic Chapter Olds Club of America at the presentatio=
n.
  There willl be t.v. radio & news paper coverage  \when it is presented t=
o
Jason.  .
   Anyone  wishing to donate will receive a receipt for taxes  and can sen=
d
their contribution , parts or money to :  
  Britt Lineberger
  1310 Victor Street
  Greensboro, N.C.
  27407

  Britt is the preees. of  MACOCA.
 I want to thank Greg for the use of space to get this out to all of you.
 Roger Utter
  OCA # 27353                                                  


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                                                   Minutes of MAOCA
                                                     January 16, 1999

Members Present:
Julian Hilton       =09Britt Lineburger
Glenn Williamson=09Paul Pankoff
Kay Hilton=09            Guy Jack
Roger Utter=09            Reggie Needham
Stan Potoezey          

Old Business:
The Doby Project is progressing. The car is 99% sand blasted and is in the
beginning stages of being put back together.  From this point forward, any=
 and
all help on the project is needed and appreciated. Cash donations by any c=
lub
member or business is greatly appreciated as well.. Money is needed to hel=
p
with incidentals that we need while working on the car.  The following
parts/systems are need for the Doby Project. Please see what you can do to
sponsor parts or a system for the car.

UNDER HOOD:
fire wall pad, Fan clutch, wiper motor, 3 row radiator, motor mounts, batt=
ery
tray, wiper blades, transmission mount 

ELECTRICAL:
engine wiring harness, head lamp harness, alternator, battery, battery cab=
les
2 gauge, 

BODY:
front and rear bumpers, outside door handles, fender chrome, lock sets and
keys, all weather strips, windshield with antenna, sill plates, LF fender
patch
panel, metal hood, hood hinges, Cutlass S grills, front fender eye brow
molding, Cutlass S script for fenders and trunk. 

INTERIOR
black interior kit, window crank handles, inside door handles, turn signal
switch lever, black carpet and insulation pads, rear package tray, black
headliner, black seat belts

BRAKES:
front and rear brakes shoes and drums, spring kits, brake lines (front), w=
heel
cylinders

PAINT:
2 gallons of primer, gallon of POR-15, 2 gallons black acrylic enamel pain=
t,
body caulk

SUSPENSION:
upper control arm bumpers, front and rear springs, 442 rear sway bar, rear
axle
seals, center link and idler arm, 

RADIOS ETC:
front and rear speakers, radio, 

WHEELS AND TIRES:
14=94 SS II wheels, tires, center caps, front wheel bearings and seals 

New Business:
*Charlotte Show...Again this year we will have approximately 35 to 40 car
spaces available for our members.  Reserve your space soon. Last year all
spaces were taken. That means that more people are interested and our grou=
p
is increasing. 
*It is now time for the nomination of new officers. Please either nominate
someone for office or express your wishes if you would like to serve as an
officer
of the club. Notify either an officer of the club or Roger Utter of your
nomination. All nominations will be put to the club membership for a vote.
Currently all officers are still serving their terms. 
*An increase in club dues to $12.00 per year per member will be implemente=
d
to help defray cost of club business. 
*The board of directors of the OCA  has voted that a chapter of the OCA ca=
nnot
sponsor or provide alcoholic beverages at any functions. 

meeting adjourned



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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:07:27 -0500
From: "rkn" <rkn@ezaccess.net>
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for a personalized plate ('68 442 conv.) 

Just my $.02.    My Dad belonged to an outfit in WW2 called the 20th
engineers. He had a personalized plate made up as such: 20THENGR. Being in
North Carolina, most everyone he knew who saw it said it looked like it
represented 20 the n*gger. Obviously this was unacceptable, so he altered
the TH with markers so that it looked exactly like 20th engr. Well, it took
about a week before a state police officer stopped him and told him that
that was illegal and either fix it or pay a fine. So my dad dropped it all
together. Since NC has changed to one plate since this incedent he now has
a special plate for the front that was made by his association. (20th
combat engineers ass'n. of WW2). 
	Anyway, the point I'm trying to get at is that it is illegal to alter 
tags
on a car, so...since your plates have been altered you're opening the door
for the police to stop you. It may never happen but it's something you
should be aware of.
				Happy Oldsmobiling
				R. Kevin Noon
				66 Dynamic 88 Convertible
				85 DRB (for sale...cheap)

- ----------
> From: jhbII <jh2nlla@noblecan.org>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for a personalized plate ('68 442 conv.) 
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 9:56 AM
> 
>        Hi List, My Dad and I have the same name so "our" licence plate
reads
> JHB'S HO. Thats not are "Ladies" we are talking about either!!!!!We added
> the apostaphe with a marker and it looks SWEET as Hell!                In
> the state of Indiana, "HO" cannot be used so "69 HO" was out of the
> question. In the state of Michigan,"69" can not be used in a personalized
> plate so "WE" went with the Michigan plate. The state did call one last
time
> before the making of the "plate" for an explanation of what "JHBS HO"
stood
> for! Plate arrived 2 days before Christmas,what a present!
> My suggestion,68RGTOP or 442CONV or just 68 442. Hope nobody else has
your
> plate already after you have made your decision. Happened to us with our
72
> conv. GOOD LUCK, Jack

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:19:56 -0500
From: "rkn" <rkn@ezaccess.net>
Subject: Re: Have 2 Olds Convertibles......

If you should decide to part out the 64. I may be interested in the back
seat. That is if a 64 seat will fit in a 66. Keep me posted.
				R. Kevin Noon
				66 Dynamic 88 Convertible
				85 DRB (for sale...cheap)

- ----------
From: Tim Wurtz <tropical@micron.net>
To: Oldsmobile Group <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Have 2 Olds Convertibles......
Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:34 PM

I have aquired two Oldsmobiles, Both are convertibles. 

1. 1973 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Convertible
2. 1964 Oldsmobile Jetfire 88 Convertible
 
I am either gonna part the cars or sell them as a whole.
Anyone Interested can contact me. Thanks Tim Wurtz

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:01:37 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: engine rebuild..main bearing caps

Dorian

        You sound like your talking about the rod caps not the main caps. The
1357 should be on the drivers side and the 2468 are on the passenger side. If
you mains are the ones messed up start at the #5 cap and look at where the
number is. All the others will correspond to the same side for the numbers.
Also look at the tang alignment of the bearings in the caps. They should be on
the same side.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts 

At 08:33 PM 1/30/99 , you wrote:
>      Hi all..need some assistance. After attempting to keep all the parts in
>the order they should be, my main bearing caps got mixed up. I know the
>1,2,3,4 is from front to rear, but which side (driver or passenger) is the
>1,2, etc supposed to be on? I remember that the 1,2 were all on the same side,
>but I assume 1 is the #1 cylinder, but I don't want to take chances....'77
>403. Thanks, Dorian

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:37:13 EST
From: GraphixRUs@aol.com
Subject: project

 Sorry  guys,
the Jason Doby car is a  70  "S".
Jason sants it  triple black.
Thanks all. 
Roger

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:02:16 PST
From: "mike jones" <sspazzer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Date:	Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:02:16 PST

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:03:30 PST
From: "mike jones" <sspazzer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Rod Knock

My mom's 1990 Custom Cruiser with a 307 Roller motor is making an 
audible
knocking sound, seems to be coming from the bottom of the motor.  I'm
thinking this is rod knock.  It has been driven twice with no oil, which 
is
the reason I believe it is knocking.  The car just turned 101k on the 
odo
as well.  I'm not looking to sell it, the trans has been rebuilt, and 
the
body and interior are still nice.  I know a 350 will bolt right up, I am
worried about passing CA smog.  I'd like to put a stock 70s 350 in there
(does not need any aftermarket items, stock will suffice) and retain all
functioning emissions systems (including the carb, will put in a pair of
secondary rods from an olds 350).  We do have a service manual, which
should make swapping the motors easy.  I'd probably use a pair of 3A 
heads,
and a late 70s 350 (don't want a hot rod here, just something faster 
than
the 307 roller).  Exhaust system is stock currently.  I can get 2.5"
mandrel bent exhaust for the '94-96 Impala SS for around $60-80.  I know
that almost everything will interchange on the motors.  May use a diesel
starter on this badboy.  

	Don't know where the replacement motor will come from, however.  I may 
go
to a wrecking yard, and give a bearing and re-ring to a junker 350, or
might go spend $450 or so on a running 350 and replace the oil pump for
good measures.  

Please reply via my e-mail addy, Mike@Gleep.com because I am using the
digest format.

Thank you
Mike Jones
'78 Delta 88 (350/Th350/104k)
'90 Custom Cruiser (307/TH2004R/101k)


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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 01:43:35 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Edelbrock Performer 455

I just checked the FAQ and it says there that the Edelbrock Performer is
good in terms of weight-saving, but not that much improvement over the stock
intake.  I have a '70 442 intake (non-EGR) and I found a Performer in the
local paper.  It says "never used" and it is not cheap but significantly
cheaper then new.  I am wondering weather to get it or not, but would not
want it if it gave little or none performance difference.  For you guys with
this intake, is it worth it.  New (here in Canada), it costs $429.  This guy
is asking $300 and I think I would take it for $250 or so.  Is it worth it
or not?  Any difference at all, how much and where.  Thanks.  Igor.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 01:58:04 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Rod Knock

>I know a 350 will bolt right up, I am
>worried about passing CA smog

So will a 455, 425 or a 403 :-), but forget emissions.

I think that your best bet is a '73 350 with a set of 7a heads from a '72.
That way your CR will get bumped a little for power.  I don't know about
emissions, but at least a '72 motor with those 7a would be the best choice.

As for the Impala exhaust, it will not bolt up to Olds exhaust manifolds.
However, with little fabrication (should be really cheap) to get it to bolt
on to the olds manifolds, it should work well.  Custom built 2.5" dual
exhaust with a cross-over pipe, mufflers and tail-pipes would not be that
expensive either (this is what I have on my Delta), but if you are on a
serious budget, the SS exhaust is probably your best bet.  Again, I don't
know about emissions.  If I were you, a 350 should be welcome improvement.
However, unless you get excellent singe exhaust bent, I would definitely go
duals at any cost.  On my friends 350 (Chevy) and on my 455 it made a huge
difference over stock.  With the 350, 200-4R and duals, traction will be a
little new-found problem.  Have fun.

Igor.

1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23s)
1981 Regency (307/200-4R/2.56)

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 22:33:19 -0800
From: "Mike Jones" <mike@gleep.com>
Subject: Rod Knock

	My mom's 1990 Custom Cruiser with a 307 Roller motor is making an 
audible
knocking sound, seems to be coming from the bottom of the motor.  I'm
thinking this is rod knock.  It has been driven twice with no oil, which is
the reason I believe it is knocking.  The car just turned 101k on the odo
as well.  I'm not looking to sell it, the trans has been rebuilt, and the
body and interior are still nice.  I know a 350 will bolt right up, I am
worried about passing CA smog.  I'd like to put a stock 70s 350 in there
(does not need any aftermarket items, stock will suffice) and retain all
functioning emissions systems (including the carb, will put in a pair of
secondary rods from an olds 350).  We do have a service manual, which
should make swapping the motors easy.  I'd probably use a pair of 3A heads,
and a late 70s 350 (don't want a hot rod here, just something faster than
the 307 roller).  Exhaust system is stock currently.  I can get 2.5"
mandrel bent exhaust for the '94-96 Impala SS for around $60-80.  I know
that almost everything will interchange on the motors.  May use a diesel
starter on this badboy.  

	Don't know where the replacement motor will come from, however.  I may 
go
to a wrecking yard, and give a bearing and re-ring to a junker 350, or
might go spend $450 or so on a running 350 and replace the oil pump for
good measures.  

Please reply via my e-mail addy, Mike@Gleep.com because I am using the
digest format.

Thank you
Mike Jones
'78 Delta 88 (350/Th350/104k)
'90 Custom Cruiser (307/TH2004R/101k)

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 03:07:52 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: My Classic Car Olds

I watched MCC on TNN today.  The 400, 442 featured was a very, very nice
car.  However, I do have to protest in a way.  I am not saying that this
Olds is not as good as any other but all I want to say is that most of the
other cars they featured were not "economy" muscle cars.  440 6-pack with
4.10 rear, 428 Cobra Jet Mustang, 396 Nova, etc.  This 400 Cutlass was
awesome, but a '70 W-30 would have been a better "contender" with the other
cars mentioned.   I have no problem with the 442 featured as it really is a
great car that I would kill to own (130 MPH is one thing that is really
attractive), but they should have featured more 2-bbl models from other
companies or pick a W-30, 442 with no air and 3.91 rear.  The 2.56 has its
pluses for sure.  Although from what I have seen, my '81 Delta with 455
would kill this car off the line but would loose like crap in the top-end.
But then again, I could put back my 2.41 posi and have very similar runs as
that 400.  Did love that car though.  The interior is great (especially that
it is original), and the 400 sounded good.  No disrespect to this car, it
really was great.  I guess I was just expecting a all-out-full-blown '68
442.  I was expecting a 400 but not a 2-bbl, 2.56 rear and A/C.  This car
was a cruiser, the other would have been haulers.  I like both (2.41 on my
Delta were really cool on the free-way, nothing like my rev-unhappy 3.23s).
Long live BB Oldses.  Igor.

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:15:16 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Need '71 Delta Service Manual

Not on the list; respond to nkm@uswest.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	keith miller <nkm@uswest.net>
Subject: repair manuals

i am looking for a 71 delta 88
factory repair manual. any help
would be appreciated.
keith miller

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:25:13 EST
From: StepHydro@aol.com
Subject: Got the Toro, need a manual

Would someone please help me determine what sort of manuals I should get for
maintenance/restoration on my "new" 68 Toro?

If there aren't any current production books (unlikely to get one from Haynes,
I suppose :-) where should I look to find an original one?

Cheers/Carron

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:10:20 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: spam

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:11:57 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Adara scanner (non olds)

Never even heard of the brand.  I did considerable research and enjoyed much
scorn and derision from wife and children, but when it was over, I got a
Hewlett Packard.  Quick scans, easy to use, accurate color, built like a
tank, great software, self installs.  Got it from an internet site called
Buycomp.com.  PC magazine is on line.  You can go there and read reviews on
twenty five or thirty scanners.  Any questions?  E-mail me privately.  Will
try to help.  Go Falcons!!  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Shane <sgibreal@nctc.net>
To: Olds' List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 8:44 PM
Subject: Adara scanner (non olds)


>Has anyone ever used an Adara scanner? I'm thinking about getting one to
>help me finaly get a web page up.
>
>Thanks
>
>Shane
>

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:51:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "C. Casteel" <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
Subject: How about...(Re: suggestions for a personalized plate) 

At 09:07 PM 1/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Just my $.02.    My Dad belonged to an outfit in WW2 called the 20th

Thanks for everyone's input. 

My wife reminded me of one that I think I'm going to use. 

You see, I bought this car about a year ago with the reasoning that I'll
give it to my son some day. He'll be two this February. <So I have some time
to enjoy it before he starts wanting the keys>

Well anyway, at some point when he was learning to walk, someone at daycare
nicknamed him "Bruiser".

So I think that'll be my first choice: BRUISER.

I sorta think it'll look somewhat appropriate on the back of a triple black
442 conv. with a 455 under the hood. What do you guys (and girls) think?

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:07:25 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: How about...(Re: suggestions for a personalized plate)

   C. Casteel wrote>>>>My Dad belonged to an outfit in WW2 called the 20th

Thanks for everyone's input. 

My wife reminded me of one that I think I'm going to use. 

You see, I bought this car about a year ago with the reasoning that I'll
give it to my son some day. He'll be two this February. <So I have some time
to enjoy it before he starts wanting the keys>

Well anyway, at some point when he was learning to walk, someone at daycare
nicknamed him "Bruiser".

So I think that'll be my first choice: BRUISER.

My 69 Vista Cruiser I named Vista "Bruiser" , good choice.See that 69 at my
webpage under "History Area" Hot Rod Harry from NJ 
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">1973 Olds Cutlass 455
4speed</A> click on the blue area

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:23:45 EST
From: StepHydro@aol.com
Subject: Working on Max...vacuum schematic

This isn't the most important group of repairs I have to make, but it may be
the easiest.

The vacuum system is trashed on my 68 Toro. While waiting for advice on books
to get, could someone email me the vacuum schematic to the car?

The entire headlight actuator tubing array has been disconnected, so the doors
must be operated by hand. I don't know if they *can* close by
gravity/vibration, but I suspect the possibility. So, to me this looks like a
safety issue.

TIA and cheers/Carron

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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 18:55:51 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Wipers

well this may seem funny because I'm laughing my butt off but the wipers on
my 442 wont turn off they continue to run for about 5 minutes then die of
their own free will and accord it would seem that a relay is sticking but
there doesnt seem to be one the fact that they turn off on their own later
yields a certain amount of puzzlement thought about a faulty ground or
something like that but no soap could change the motor but would like to
avoid that if possible not that it is difficult but it is pretty wet and
cold out and the shop is occupied with another project any ideas?

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:56:09 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Wipers

At 06:55 PM 5/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>well this may seem funny because I'm laughing my butt off but the wipers on
>my 442 wont turn off they continue to run for about 5 minutes then die of
>their own free will and accord it would seem that a relay is sticking but
>there doesnt seem to be one the fact that they turn off on their own later
>yields a certain amount of puzzlement thought about a faulty ground or
>something like that but no soap could change the motor but would like to
>avoid that if possible not that it is difficult but it is pretty wet and
>cold out and the shop is occupied with another project any ideas?


Yeah, use some punctuation! It may not fix your wiper problem but your notes
will be easier to read :-) But seriously, what year is your car? Perhaps the
switch is bad? 
TTYL,
Gene

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:08:20 -0400
From: rebel1@raex.com
Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#61197697: 1968 Oldsmobile 98 
Convertible

I saw on eBay - thought someone might be interested - bidding was at $575 the 
last I saw it...
Todd Daenzer
All the toys put away for the winter...

Title of item:	1968 Oldsmobile 98 Convertible
Seller:	jsalinardi@home.com
Starts:	01/27/99 20:30:42 PST 
Ends:	02/03/99 20:30:42 PST 
Price:	Currently $575.00
To bid the item, go to:	
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=61197697


Item Description:		
	1968 Oldsmobile 98 Convertible.  If broken image icon appears, see 
description and pictures of car at   
http://members.home.net/jsalinardi/jsalinardi.html   Sorry for the 
inconvenience.  Please note that a LOW reserve has been placed on this 
convertible.  
Big block 455 4 bbl., 102,000 miles.  Loaded with options including A/C 
(doesn't work).  Runs well and can be driven the way it is, but needs some 
mechanical and body work typical of an old car.  Transmission was rebuilt a 
few years ago and only has several hundred miles on it.  I have a straight, 
rust free drivers fender and wheel well to replace the rusted and battery acid 
eaten originals.  Also have a gorgeous replated rear bumper to replace the 
rusted original.  Interior is black and nearly perfect.  A goo cleaning is all 
that is needed to make the interior perfect.  Top is good, was replaced 
recently, but the back glass has seperated from the top material (may need new 
top).  Top pads, cables and rear well liner were replaced a few years ago - so 
they are in great condition.  Floors are solid, trunk floor is getting weak in 
several spots - will need small patches welded in.  The quarters have small 
(about 2") rust holes at the lowest corner behind the wheel.  The doors !
 appear to be solid.  Passenger fender has rust in lowest portion behind the 
wheel.  The car is remarkably straight - which is very notable on a car of 
this size.  In general, the car can be driven as you restore it and is a good 
starting point for a restoration.  

Please understand that this is  general description and I can not describe 
each and every minute detail about the car, so if you plan on bidding, please 
ask me questions and understand that this is a 30 tyear old car and there may 
be things wrong with it that I don't know exist.  Please do not mistake this 
car as you can buy and drive anywhere right away - it does and will need 
work.  It should be considered a car that someone will go completely through 
from top to bottom and restore.  Only someone with old car experience should 
consider buying.  If you are that person, good luck bidding.  If you just 
think it would be neat to own an old convertible - do me a favor and don't 
bid.  Buyer arranges and pays all shipping costs.  Note:  being 30 years old, 
there is no title for this car (and one is not required by the Dept. of Motor 
Vehicles).  The buyer will receive a bill of sale from me - which is all you 
will need to register the car.  Good luck bidding.



	Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at 
http://www.ebay.com

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:10:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Performer 455

Igor.  You are right about the Edelbrock not
making much difference.  It is not a big difference.  I bought a used,
clean one for $100us because I couldnt resist.  I painted it
stock olds engine blue, and the paint is actually
holding up better than on the stock manifold.
It is a huge savings in weight and I'm glad I
bought it, but don't expect much in the way of
power gains.  Maybe just a little smoother, maybe...  If you try hard
enough and really want
to see a difference, maybe you can get yourself
to believe it!  Either way, they are very nice intakes.

Kevin D. Wood
1972 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: 31 Jan 99 08:50:53 PST
From: Jon Hart <hartjon@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Wipers]

oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca wrote:
At 06:55 PM 5/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>well this may seem funny because I'm laughing my butt off but the wipers on
>my 442 wont turn off they continue to run for about 5 minutes then die of
>their own free will and accord it would seem that a relay is sticking but
>there doesnt seem to be one the fact that they turn off on their own later
>yields a certain amount of puzzlement thought about a faulty ground or
>something like that but no soap could change the motor but would like to
>avoid that if possible not that it is difficult but it is pretty wet and
>cold out and the shop is occupied with another project any ideas?

_____________________

If your car is a later model 442 thy this--My 83 98 had teh same problem.
There is a govenor switch in the motor that turns the wipers on and off. You
must take off the washer pump to access it. Any good AC Declco retailer will
carry it. They will need to know wheter or not the wipers have a delay
function.

Jon Hart



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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:30:08 -0600
From: "Greg" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Urgent! HEI weights: which way?

I'm took out my summit racing HEI weight and spring advance kit and I'm
putting in a Crane Cams adjustable vaccuum advance and spring kit.  They
call for the stock weights and I can't figure out how they go together.

The center part and both weights are stamped with numbers.  Looks like they
all face down, but I'm not sure.  Also, the center piece has two small
bumps, one on each side.  Do they face the thick part of the weights or the
thin side of the weights?

With all the numbers facing down, and the bumps of the center piece facing
the thick part of the weights, it looks exactly opposite of the picture in
the directions.  Isn't that supposed to be right since Olds distributors run
backwards from Chevys?

Can anyone tell me if I'm putting it together right?  I'll be sitting around
until I get a reply.

thanks,
greg z

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