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oldsmobile-digest     Tuesday, February 23 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1799



Re: 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser. Huh?
Re: build sheets
Re: 69 442...
Re: paint color combinations...
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Re: build sheets
Re: Emblem jpg's - Who needs an Edge?
Re: build sheets
Tranny swap....
Re: need help from old timers
Web Page Update
Re: Roll call. ATTENTION   Charles Dempsey
roll call
Re: What is a Weber Side Draft?
Re: need help from old timers
Re: How to take a frame off the body???
Re: Jeremy -- Pictures?
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Old Dual Quad Setup on ebay
Roll call.
Roll Call
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Re: 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser. Huh?
Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Olds digest v.s non digest
How much traffic does the G-Body list get?
Cutlass Cruiser vs Vista Cruiser (WAS 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser.)
Re: My Cutlass has a problem
RE: How much traffic does the G-Body list get?
72 DELTA 88 W/455 F/S
Re: How much traffic does the G-Body list get?
Re: Roll Call
69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay
Oldsmobile Parking
Re: Rechroming bumpers...need suggestions! (Desert Dog)
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Re: What is a Weber Side Draft?
History Museum
What does a build sheet look like.....
Re: Oldsmobile Parking
RE: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay
Rear Bushing Install ?
Re: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay
Re: 69 Olds
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Vista Cruiser on E-Bay
Re: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay
Re: Stalling Problem-'87 Cutlass
Re: What does a build sheet look like.....
Re: Rear Bushing Install ?
Re: 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser. Huh?
Re: Roll Call
Re: Oldsmobile Parking
Re: Vista Cruiser on E-Bay
Dual exhaust
Re: Oldsmobile Parking
price?
Re: Dual exhaust
RE: Dual exhaust
Re: History Museum
Re: Dual exhaust
RE: Dual exhaust
RE: Dual exhaust
RE: price?
Re: price?
RE: Dual exhaust

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:59:08 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser. Huh?

A Cutlass "Wagon" was on the 4 door 116" wheelbase frame and had no vista
roof, the vista cruiser was on a 121" wheelbase frame and had the glass vista
roof......not many no that the Vista had its own frame different from the
rest.    Hot Rod Harry....see my" 69 Vista Bruiser"at  
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">1973 Olds Cutlass 455
4speed</A>  under  MY MUSCLECARS OF THE PAST

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:03:33 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: build sheets

Lost Forever, unless the owner before you got it!  
Places to check..  under carpet....under and behind rear seat....under front
seats....above gas tank(must drop to find)....above glove box......in interior
kick panels....in door panels....in headliner...Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:31:27 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: 69 442...

will work on it saw a 70 hardtop in witchita KS for 3000 seemed solid and
indeed numbers match no W hood or wing just a solid 442 will post contact
info if desired also saw a fake 69 442 W-30 at a showroom in lenexa KS for
13900 it is clean though good luck on your projects and have fun...KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: 69 442...


>
>You get a great deal, if you know where I can get a solid numbers matching
'69
>442 for $1,300 U.S. then please let me know :)  I'd grab it so quick the
guy
>wouldn't know what happened.
>
>Remember that the $5,000 he is talking about is about $3,350 in "real"
money
>and the $1,300 you paid in 1995 would be worth $1,900 today if you had it
in a
>mediocre mutual fund.
>
>Kerry Kroger wrote:
>>
>> well FWIW I bought my all "ORIGINAL" "NUMBERS MATCHING" 69 442 for 1300
in
>> california in 1995 it has a 350 2bbl (NOT ORIGINAL) but came with the
>> "ORIGINAL" 400 verified and complete but with spun main bearing non posi-
>> type "O" with 4.? gears runs 4000rpm at 80mph the body was rust free with
>> well weathered but original cameo white paint
>> have yet to find the build sheet but continue to look also had a few
extra
>> parts in the trunk like two air cleaners extra hood grilles and hockey
>> sticks
>> the interior had no problems until it got to the midwest and experienced
a
>> winter, its first, the drivers seat cracked in the middle it also has a
>> couple of strange things for options RED wells no it isnt a w-30 it also
has
>> a power seat (drivers side) and no air which seems wierd no air but a
power
>> seat
>> the original AM- pushbutton radio and an 8-track would like to find an
AM/FM
>> original if anyone has one let me know Also I will probably use desert
dog
>> for the bumpers seems to be well recommended......Adios...KK
>
>--
>
>Cliff Simpson
>mailto://csimpson@ucalgary.ca
>'69 442,400,th400,3.31p (Kermit)
>http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:33:05 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: paint color combinations...

Got em will transcribe and post if you want if not send a private note and
will e-mail you a scan of the pages...KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Darren King <KingD@sx.com>
To: 'olds' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 1:37 PM
Subject: paint color combinations...


>Is there a reference for what paint/interior color combinations
>were available for what year?  I'm looking for the 1969 year,
>model 442.  I couldn't find it in the FAQ on 442.com
>
>Darren King

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:09:54 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

In a message dated 2/22/99 8:13:42 AM Central Standard Time,
Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM writes:

<< Yep, got mine about a week ago.  I was very impressed and honored to be
 part of an exclusive group of what must be only 200,000 or so Hot Rod
 Magazine subscribers.
 
 I didn't even bother to keep the stickers....
  >>
  hahahaa....and if you reply by midnight tonight...you have won a garranteed
prize of a mini  jam box! or $2,000,000 in cash!

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:16:15 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: build sheets

If you did not find them in the areas I said then I guess Olds Factory workers
were doing their job that day....I think they are suppose to discard the build
sheets as they went down the line...most would just toss them in the car as
they were being built. Dont feel bad if you cant find it. Most cars I have had
didnt have them either. Try and find the original dealer and see if they have
old files put up in storage somewhere, I have done that with some success.
Good Luck!
    Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:23:21 -0500
From: Aaron D Eoff <sheep542@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Emblem jpg's - Who needs an Edge?

>This was for the 1980 Cutlass Edge package that gave the stainless strip 
across
>the roof and C-pillars.  Don't know much more about 'em than that.
Apparantly a
>dealer-installed package, as far as I know, 1980 only.

My 1977 Cutlass S has that stainless steel strip across its roof. I've tried
for a long time to find out if its anything special or not. Any info from
anyone on the list would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

Aaron

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:21:58 EST
From: GHeath4138@aol.com
Subject: Re: build sheets

thanks

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:28:04 EST
From: Email4GMan@aol.com
Subject: Tranny swap....

Hello fellow Olds entusiasts.....

Been away from the list for 8 months, and just now getting back into my '64
Dynamic 88 Convertible.  It is blessed (cursed) with a Slim-Jim transmission
that I would dearly love to swap out.  Has anyone swapped one out before?  The
TH400, can it be interchanged?  How much modification would be required for
any other tranny?  Thanks for all your help, and I am glad to be back on the
digest.

Sincerely,

Gary M. Manton

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:57:20 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: need help from old timers

you bet they had one when I was in school it is a rather worthless gadget
big and clunky you dont need it to setup a distributor but since you have
one just apply twelve volts to your HEI and hook up a dwell meter etc. and
have fun
- -----Original Message-----
From: Worthington, David L <david_worthington@reyrey.com>
To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 1:18 PM
Subject: need help from old timers


>
>
>I hope I can employ the help of the list members that are "a wee bit older"
>(decide amongst yourselves if this applies to you.  I know it applies to
Ron
>Forsee).
>
>Last friday, I was given a Sun distributor machine.  An OLD one.  5ft. tall
>and weighs about 150 lbs.  At the top of the machine, it has carlines
listed
>with advance specs. The newest one listed is 1955!  Going on that nugget of
>information, I'd say it was built that year.  Yes, it's made for 6 volt
>setups with points.  It lights up and works, but i only use HEI, so I'm
>going to switch it over to 12v and make it HEI-compatible.
>
>I've also got an engine analyzer made in the late 60's (?) that has a
>leakdown tester, scope, vacuum gauge, dwell meter, a/f ratio monitor, etc.
>Quite useful!  Only downside it that it takes up a lot of garage space.
>
>Question:  Is "SUN" still in business?  I've got a SUNpro Super Tach II
made
>by Actron.  Actron has a web site http://www.actron.com/sunhome.htm that
has
>some analyzers.  Is this the same company?   I'm looking for more info on
>this machine and am out of ideas as to where to look.
>
>Any of you ever run one of these distributor machines?
>
>Olds content:  I used the engine analyzers a/f ratio meter to adjust my
>cutlass for the emissions test.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave Worthington
>
>

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:51:51 -0600
From: "CD Smalley" <notdadsw41@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Web Page Update

Hi Guys,

I'm a long time lurker on the Olds list.  Most of my time recently has been
spent on the QuadFourm-L and the 9C1 list.  Anyway, I've been spending alot
of time updating my site and would like some more input.  The site is
dedicated mostly towards my W41 but I've also included some other rare Quad4
powered Oldsmobiles.  I know that most of you care too much for any of the
newer cars. But, please take a look and let me know what you think.  No need
to clog up the list please reply off list if possible.

Thanks

Cecil Smalley
1991 W41
1989 9C1
http://home.att.net/~notdadsw41/

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:50:50 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll call. ATTENTION   Charles Dempsey

Hi, Charles. About your 73 H\O. you say " it`s next " . What did you mean? Did
you want to get rid of it? If so, please let me know. I`m looking for another.
Thanks.  Dennis     W451973@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:45 
From: "John Carri" <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: roll call

Hi all,
       My response to the roll call follows. I'm fairly new
to this list (am in digest mode), have received some very
helpful advice and info from listees, and have been able to
help out a few folks with some of the odd bits of info
stuck in my head. Great to have all of you cyber-friends!

- -John Carri


- ------------------------------------------------------------
Name          : John Carri

Age           : 35

Location      : Los Angeles, California

Job           : Engineer; my degree is in Physics, I work in
                the R&D dept of a firm that builds
                professional audio equipment, so I get to
                fiddle with electronics,acoustics,physics,
                mathematics, computer programming,
                machine-shop work, woodworking and whatever
                else is needed to get the job done, its lots
                of fun!

Personal Info : Married, no kids, my wife is a wonderful
                person, and she supports my interest in
                25+ year old cars that are junk to most folks.
                We just bought our first house, with a GARAGE!
                (Sing the happy,happy,joy,joy song with me!)

Pets          : Rufus the cat, white with orange patches, who
                supervises whenever I rebuild a carb or do some
                other automotive chore indoors

Other hobbies : Playing guitar, snorkelling

Cars owned    : 1) Plymosaurus Rex,(Rex for short), my 1973
                 Plymouth  Roadrunner. He's got the 340 engine,
                 727 auto trans, second car I ever owned and 
                 the one I've put the most blood,sweat and
                 tears into.
              
                2) Roger, my 1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme. My daily
                 driver, bought less than a year ago, and the car
                 I've worked most on recently. I like Roger more
                 every month we commute together.   

                3) Tracy, my wifes 1994 Mercury Tracer. She wants
                a 68 Mercury Cougar or a 71-73 Plymouth Cuda
                instead. Some day...           

                4) Wallace The Loach, a 1985 Plymouth Colt. Yes,
                its as much fun to drive as a bullock-cart in a
                swamp, but it got me to work for a year and took
                me on visits to my wife back before she was my
                wife.
                
                5) 1984 Olds Cutlass Ciera. My wifes former car.
                Good drivetrain, good interior, new cyl head, newly
                done radiator and cat, looks like hell, lots of 
                dents, dings, faded paint, stuck power windows, air
                doesn't work any more. Anyone on this list want a
                reliable but ugly beater for $350? Contact me at
                jcarri@alesis1.usa.com. Los Angeles area.
 

        

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:02:01 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: What is a Weber Side Draft?

>The Weber is a tinkerer's dream.


Or nightmare depending on perspective and patience level.
When they're on they're great but when they're messed up 
it can send you to the looney bin.  Something as seemingly
simple as idle adjustments can become an all day project
balancing cyls if your dealing with enough cyls.  

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:21:16 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: need help from old timers

Somewhere, in some dark, forbidding recess of the lightning pit that is my
mind, I recall that Sun was ingested a few years ago by SNAP-ON, TOOL MAKERS
OF THE UNIVERSE.  A company consumed more by image than performance.  I mean
this only in the best way possible.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Worthington, David L <david_worthington@reyrey.com>
To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:19 AM
Subject: need help from old timers


>
>
>I hope I can employ the help of the list members that are "a wee bit older"
>(decide amongst yourselves if this applies to you.  I know it applies to
Ron
>Forsee).
>
>Last friday, I was given a Sun distributor machine.  An OLD one.  5ft. tall
>and weighs about 150 lbs.  At the top of the machine, it has carlines
listed
>with advance specs. The newest one listed is 1955!  Going on that nugget of
>information, I'd say it was built that year.  Yes, it's made for 6 volt
>setups with points.  It lights up and works, but i only use HEI, so I'm
>going to switch it over to 12v and make it HEI-compatible.
>
>I've also got an engine analyzer made in the late 60's (?) that has a
>leakdown tester, scope, vacuum gauge, dwell meter, a/f ratio monitor, etc.
>Quite useful!  Only downside it that it takes up a lot of garage space.
>
>Question:  Is "SUN" still in business?  I've got a SUNpro Super Tach II
made
>by Actron.  Actron has a web site http://www.actron.com/sunhome.htm that
has
>some analyzers.  Is this the same company?   I'm looking for more info on
>this machine and am out of ideas as to where to look.
>
>Any of you ever run one of these distributor machines?
>
>Olds content:  I used the engine analyzers a/f ratio meter to adjust my
>cutlass for the emissions test.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave Worthington
>
>

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:46:53 EST
From: Sparker442@aol.com
Subject: Re: How to take a frame off the body???

Oh,oh, Jeff.  The dreaded "mightaswell"...........
Scott
71 442 Conv.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:43:49 EST
From: Sparker442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jeremy -- Pictures?

Hey Jeremy, 

That saffron/saffron 442 sounds sweet!  Any pictures available?

Scott
71 442 Conv.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:50:59 EST
From: Moparrp@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

In a message dated 2/21/99 11:34:04 PM Central Standard Time,
Jetaway4sp@aol.com writes:

<< 
 >>
yes I got the exact letter, how many more?

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:59:01 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Old Dual Quad Setup on ebay

Not much time left (hour and a half), but the price is right ($53)
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=67675092

- -- 
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
95 Aurora 
OCA# 30442

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:15:22 -0500
From: Rebel1 <rebel1@raex.com>
Subject: Roll call.

Alright, you shamed me into it - no more sitting back deleting...

Todd Daenzer
1739 Brightwood Rd. SE
New Philadelphia, OH 44663
General Foreman @ Greer Steel Company
Metallurgial Engineer by degree...

The toys...
'69 Cutlass S convertible w/442 badging - 310 hp tied to a glide and
highway gears... :-(
'75 Cutlass Supreme project car... '70 vintage 350, TH350, and 4.88's -
Lots of fun around town but VERY HARD on tires...
'77 Ford F-150, soon to be powered by a fresh Edelbrock package 351W - that
way I can get my parts faster!
'82 Cutlass Supreme, small block, 700R4, 3.73, duals, etc.
'86 Cutlass Supreme, 307, TH350, and 2.29's :-(
And a interesting pile of parts!

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:06:47 -0400
From: Wade Hunt <wade.hunt@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Roll Call

Wade Hunt
Belle Cote 
NS.  Ca
Cmmerical fisherman`s help.
47 married with one son who just got his driver`s license.

1969 442 Red with white interior.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:13:11 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

>yes I got the exact letter, how many more?

Back when I was a subscriber, I got one which must have
been almost a year ago.  Before that I got one from Pop.
Hot Rodding that even had a little membership card in it.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:45:50 -0600
From: "Charles A. Dempsey" <cdemps@lsumc.edu>
Subject: Re: 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser. Huh?

"Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> I think somone should request the VIN off the car, and possibly inform e-bay
> of fraud if it is not as advertised. just because such a vehicle would be
> highly desireable and colud lead to a serious cah outlay.
> in fact im going ot ask the owner for the vin # now, if i get it (ever) ill
> post it to the listfor scrutiny.

I think we're talking lack of knowledge rather than fraud. The style of
the text does not lead me to believe he's intentionally trying to
mis-represent the car.

Let's not lambaste the guy and make an enemy. He has already posted
several disclaimers and besides, anybody who knows what a W-30 is ought
to be intelligent enough to ask their own pointed questions (a quote
from "The Magnificent Seven" comes to mind).

If you don't get a reply from him soon it's probably because his mail
box is full. I suspect he is in the process of learning a lot about
Oldsmobiles in general, and W-30s in particular.

Charles

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:41:15 -0500
From: "Glenn J. Martin" <martin.glenn@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Roll Call

Glenn Martin
Windsor, Ontario
age 37
Manager of Highline Mushrooms (Mushroom Growers)
72 Cutlass Supreme ( FOR SALE )
72 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:31:13 -0400
From: "Brian Smith" <smithclan@sprint.ca>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

As I only get a chance to read these lists every few days it seems, I'm
especially late in responding.

Brian G. Smith
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Auditor with Revenue Canada (I try not to let this out usually, but I feel
compelled to come out of the closet on occasions)

1971 Cutlass Supreme SX Coupe (Restored to original)
1979 Chev Caprice - mint original (semi toy and driver)
1989 Buick Park Ave - wife's car and daily driver

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:45:46 -0500
From: "Glenn J. Martin" <martin.glenn@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Olds digest v.s non digest

Can someone tell me the benifit of not getting the list in digest form?
I get two or three digests per night and scroll through the one's that
sound interesting. Am I missing anything doing this?

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:54:28 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: How much traffic does the G-Body list get?

I signed up about 3 hours ago, was confirmed, but still haven't received
anything.  Is it normally "light traffic" like this, or am I doing something
wrong?

- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

(still trying to find an Olds to drive!)

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:00:19 -0600
From: texas442 <texas442@flash.net>
Subject: Cutlass Cruiser vs Vista Cruiser (WAS 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser.)

The Cutlass Cruiser (also known as Cutlass Wagon in 1970), was built on
the Cutlass 4-dr Sedan (Wheelbase 116 inches).  The Vista Cruiser has
its own frame with a wheelbase of 121 inches.  Most of the length
difference is in the rear passenger doors.  You can see a couple of the
Cutlass Cruisers at this page:

http://www.flash.net/~texas442/wagons.html

Ali Zalzala
email:  texas442@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~texas442

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:01:42 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: My Cutlass has a problem

In a message dated 2/22/99 2:24:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, Cutw29@aol.com
writes:

<< Hey list.  I was the original sender with this problem.  I forgot to tell
you
 that the air canditioning was removed from my car about 2 years ago.  I've
 already replaced the water pump and a clutch fan.  Do you think that's
because
 there's not proper balance with the belts now?  My alternator and power
 steering are on the drivers side of the car.  So I guess by taking out the
air
 conditioning and such i created the problem. =( Thanks for the advice.
 
 Steve
 cutw29@aol.com >>

       I saw a post on this earlier from various well versed Olds fanatics. My
question then is, what about if there were no options like PS or AC? Then you
end with the alternator. I don't know if Olds ran ALL their motors the same
way belt wise, but some don't even run off the water pump if I remember
correctly. (PS comes to mind) I know you must have been able to get Olds with
nothing but an alternator up front..what then? Dorian

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:08:16 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: How much traffic does the G-Body list get?

No, We have our flurries of posts. Particularly when a dynamic topic is
poised. Tonight seems a quiet night. You do realize this is the classic list
and not the G-body list you posted to. Both lists have periods of heave
activity and somewhat quiet times.  Gary....

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom's
Route-1, Box-615
Purling, NY 12470

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
gjcouse@cc-iroc-ss.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of OldsRokkit@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 8:54 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: How much traffic does the G-Body list get?
>
>
> I signed up about 3 hours ago, was confirmed, but still haven't received
> anything.  Is it normally "light traffic" like this, or am I
> doing something
> wrong?
>
> -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-
>
> (still trying to find an Olds to drive!)
>

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:07:43 EST
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: 72 DELTA 88 W/455 F/S

 Located in Southeast Massachusetts

1972 Delta 88 2 dr with 36,000 miles, grey w black top. 455/ 4bbl no options

owned and for sale by Paul Pellitier. 1-508-675-1673   asking $4500.00

  Just got a call from this guy and I told him I would put it on the mail
list. I don't know the guy or the car. If anyone has interest I will be glad
to go look at it and give you my opinion. It is only 10 minutes from me


Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:15:18 -0600
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: How much traffic does the G-Body list get?

Hi Drew...

>I signed up about 3 hours ago, was confirmed, but still haven't received
>anything.  Is it normally "light traffic" like this, or am I doing
something
>wrong?

Nope, you're not doing anything wrong.

Listbot upgraded their servers on Feb 10, and since then things have been
pretty sporadic. They've told me that they have a "backlog" of messages and
that it will be resolved soon. So, it seems that we'll go 12 hours or so
with a few messages, and then when it's "our" turn they dump 40-50 messages
all at once.

Generally though, we generate 10-30 messages most days. We have quiet, and
busy days. There's 182 members now, and some pretty smart guys (and gals)
contributing. We've even had a couple "wars" already, but mostly good
questions and good answers.

Hang in there...you'll start getting messages soon. Thanks for your
interest. If you don't get something soon, let me know and I'll see whats
going on.

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/
 Olds G-body Mailing List    http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:16:32 -0500
From: "Mark Thurman" <Thurman@kvnet.org>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Sorry this is so late - I haven't done much emailing lately.  I crashed my
system while trying to rid myself of last weeks digest viral attachment (I'm
not very "Windows" literate).  Here it goes:

Mark Thurman
Sonora, KY
Manufacturing Engineer
Married, two kids - 3 1/2 yrs & 3 1/2 weeks
O.C.A. #029575

1970 Cutlass "S" - currently restoring
1970 Cutlass Supreme - factory sebring yellow (I hope I have the money some
day to restore this one)
1970 442 (I hope I have the patience some day to restore this one)
1970 Cutlass Supreme - parts for supreme above - "If you want THAT part, ya
gotta take the whole car"
1970 Cutlass "S" - parts for current resto and 442 - ditto
A pile of assorted parts that used to be another 1970 Cutlass

1970 Impala Sports Coupe - I love this car, too bad it's spent too many
winters outside
1992 Pontiac Bonneville - P.O.S.
1995 Chevy K1500

All of these (along with the sordid details) can be seen via -
http://thurman.tsx.org

MT

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:23:43 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay

There's a 69 H/O hood scoop on ebay right now.  I talked to the owner,
and what he described, it was a genuine one. Has the "x" fiberglass
reinforcement underneath, so I think it was a later one.  Early ones
didn't have the "x".  HOWEVER, he has a reserve on it of get this...
$450!!  Sheesh, for that price I could get close TWO of em.  But, it's
there, and yes, I bid on it, but not THAT much.

Just thought you guys and gals might want to know.

Mike Rothe

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:00:53 -0500
From: "Robert Collins" <collins@peterboro.net>
Subject: Oldsmobile Parking

List
I have read the roll call reply with interest and I see many of the members
have 5 and 6 Oldsmobiles.  My question is where to keep them all?  I am sure
there are some interesting storage solutions out there.  I would like to
know what you have done as I will reach the saturation point sometime this
year and would like to know what others have done to overcome this problem.

TIA
Bob

Robert Collins
collins@peterboro.net

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:16:49 -0600
From: Alma Clark <ascddc@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Rechroming bumpers...need suggestions! (Desert Dog)

got a shop here in houston can rechrome just about any
bumper(chrome)1-2wk service guarenteed I've got 3front & 3rear bumpers
ready to go $175.00 exchange or $225.00 outright

C. Casteel wrote:
> 
> He's got a web page which I think you can get to from 442.com. He's actually
> located in Chicago. He keeps an ad in Hemmings too I think.
> 
> I bought bumpers for my '68 442 and, for the cost of $250 each (with core)
> and receiving the new bumpers within a week of shipping my old ones, am very
> pleased. I'd suggest you at least give him a call.
> 
> At 05:14 PM 2/20/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >Got an address or phone #? TIA
> >Lou
> >
> >----------
> >> From: C. Casteel <earthsci@POP.usit.net>
> >> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> >> Subject: Re: Rechroming bumpers...need suggestions!
> >> Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 4:46 PM
> >>
> >> Desert Dog is hard to beat.
> >>
> >> Go to 442.com to get his number.
> >>
> >> At 01:29 AM 2/20/99 EST, you wrote:
> >> >Any good references on rechroming of 71 442 W-30 bumpers?  You get what
> >you
> >> >pay for, so be honest with your quotes and personal experiences!!!  You
> >guys
> >> >are great!
> >> >
> >> >Thanks, David
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:17:06 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

In a message dated 2/22/99 12:34:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Jetaway4sp@aol.com writes:

<< I feel like such a lucky guy. A couple of days ago I received some special
 mail inviting me to become a founding member of the new HOT ROD Power Club.
>>

I must have really been lucky, I got that junk in the mail about 6 months ago.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:10:15 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: What is a Weber Side Draft?

Rock Man wrote:

> Okay, another dumb question here. But, if these are so adjustable, why
> aren't they used more today? I would think that something that could
> be tuned like a snowmobile or a motorcycle carb would be great!

My guess would be what Mr. Bloomer mentioned in his post.  Sometimes the
more you can mess with, the more you can mess up!  Also, these are foreign
carbs and the internals are probably quite expensive. Some of the
replaceable internals are miniature assemblies themselves.  Although the
idea of being able to tailor a single carb to so many applications is
kinda cool, it could also run into bucks to get the right combo.

Tom
- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:29:38 EST
From: GHeath4138@aol.com
Subject: History Museum

Does anyone know if the history museum move yet?

Grover 
1970

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:32:29 EST
From: Dshack4@aol.com
Subject: What does a build sheet look like.....

and what does it have on it?  All the options...all the build data..., please,
some insite on this.  I have to find this damn thing, and want to know what it
looks like!  I already know all the places to look (thanks to the list), but
why is it so important to have???


Thanks a bunch
"Shack" 

David Shackleton
hopefull owner of a 71 442 W-30
Virginia Beach, VA

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:45:16 -0500
From: Rebel1 <rebel1@raex.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parking

Bob,
    My solution was to buy an old farm house with a "bank barn" - the barn is 
32
x 44 and being that it is built into the hillside, I've got to levels of 
storage
to play with!
Todd Daenzer
All the toys put away for the winter...

Robert Collins wrote:

> List
> I have read the roll call reply with interest and I see many of the members
> have 5 and 6 Oldsmobiles.  My question is where to keep them all?  I am sure
> there are some interesting storage solutions out there.  I would like to
> know what you have done as I will reach the saturation point sometime this
> year and would like to know what others have done to overcome this problem.
>
> TIA
> Bob
>
> Robert Collins
> collins@peterboro.net

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:50:06 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay

In my search for an original 67 442 raised louvered hood I've run up against
a high price of $700 in pristine shape.    Gary....

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom's
Route-1, Box-615
Purling, NY 12470

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
gjcouse@cc-iroc-ss.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Mike Rothe.
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 9:24 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay
>
>
> There's a 69 H/O hood scoop on ebay right now.  I talked to the owner,
> and what he described, it was a genuine one. Has the "x" fiberglass
> reinforcement underneath, so I think it was a later one.  Early ones
> didn't have the "x".  HOWEVER, he has a reserve on it of get this...
> $450!!  Sheesh, for that price I could get close TWO of em.  But, it's
> there, and yes, I bid on it, but not THAT much.
>
> Just thought you guys and gals might want to know.
>
> Mike Rothe
>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:51:30 -0600
From: Dan Williams <442much@plutonium.net>
Subject: Rear Bushing Install ?

I'm installing new bushings in my rear end.  I was going to use a ball
joint, u-joint, brake anchor pin press (basically a large c-clamp with
cups) to install the bushings.  However, this tool doesn't work because
there is not enough clearance for the receiver cups.  What else can I
use to install these bushings?  I have heard there is some sort of
driving attachment for air hammers, but I have never seen any.  Is it
possible to "beat" them in if I freeze the bushings for several days?

- -Dan
- --
Dan Williams                            442Much@plutonium.net
Marion, IA                                68 442 Convertible

       (+)--------------------------------------------(+)
        |  http://www.442.com/williams68.html  |
       (+)--------------------------------------------(+)

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:56:43 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay

In a message dated 2/22/99 6:20:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
hurstolds@xtalwind.net writes:

<< 
 There's a 69 H/O hood scoop on ebay right now.  I talked to the owner,
 and what he described, it was a genuine one. Has the "x" fiberglass
 reinforcement underneath, so I think it was a later one.  Early ones
 didn't have the "x".  HOWEVER, he has a reserve on it of get this...
 $450!!  Sheesh, for that price I could get close TWO of em.  But, it's
 there, and yes, I bid on it, but not THAT much.
 
 Just thought you guys and gals might want to know.
 
 Mike Rothe
  >>


For those of us who don't know about E-Bay it might be helpful if they had the
web address and Item Number.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:49:51 -0600
From: "Dan & Peggy Dillabaugh" <housemvr@netnitco.net>
Subject: Re: 69 Olds

Rocket man I would like to thank you for all of your help. I needed alot of
it back in November and you were by far the most help I ended up getting a
$4,000 check in the mail.


                                              Joe
- -----Original Message-----
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: 69 Olds


>> I have a 69 Olds Cutlass convertible with a 350.  I was in an
>accident about 2 months ago when a man blew a stop sign and hit me.
>Now I'm having problems because I can't get a value for the car & I
>can't find parts.  My whole front end is crashed in.  I need fenders,
>bumper, hood ect.  Can anyone help me?  Thanks!       Joe
>
>
>Joe,
>
>I was in the same situation for my 69 Olds also. Except for it was a
>female who failed to yield when making a left hand turn. Let me tell
>you this, grills are hard to find and they are expensive! I have not
>been able to find anyone with bumpers though. There is a yard here in
>North Dakota that says that they have a bumper, but it needs
>rechroming. The name of the yard is Weaklies and they are in Grand
>Forks, ND. The number is (701) 772-2112. You can also try
>http://www.paddockparts.com they have a catalog for the Cutlass's.
>Good luck on getting an estimate! Also good luck on getting an
>appraisal if you need one! I have been messing with my claim for over
>a month now and it still isn't settled! Her insurance company is
>trying to state the value of my car according to the NADA book. That
>says that my car is only worth $2,000. But, in all reality it is about
>$3,700 to $4,500 in value. Just don't let the insurance screw ya over!
>Good luck in the parts!
>
>Del
>
>PS If you find anything, drop me a line and let me know if there are
>more of those! I need all the grill pieces, light bezels, and
>headlight fillers. Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>==
>Rock-Man's Page
>http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
>rockman20@yahoo.com
>1986 Honda Accord DX
>1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
>1981 John Deer Snowmobile
>197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:54:08 EST
From: OLDZ69442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

Watch out for that outfit.  They have had a Hunting club for years.  Their
real goal is to retail books and videos, etc. to their members at huge
profits.  
I wouldn't join if they paid me the $29.95.

Bob Iozia
Brick NJ
'69 442
'70 442
'67 Cutlass Cvt.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:01:43 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Vista Cruiser on E-Bay

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=69861106

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:10:48 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: 69 Hurst Olds Hood Scoop on ebay

> 
> For those of us who don't know about E-Bay it might be helpful if they had 
the
> web address and Item Number.

item 69719850 sorry folks.

www.ebay.com

search word "hurst"...all sorts of cool stuff comes up

Mike Rothe

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:03:08 -0500
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: Stalling Problem-'87 Cutlass

Sharon, I'm forwarding your problem to the "Olds List" to put the best
minds in the business at work for you.
Okay, guys, if you reply make sure you at least copy Sharon, as she is not
on the list!
(Sorry it took so long to get to this, Sharon)

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com   
Centennial Feature at http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

- ----------
> From: Kurt Shubert <kshubert@apk.net>
> To: Kurt Shubert (E-mail) <wmachine@en.com>
> Subject: FW: 
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 10:21 AM
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	SharonG@Exabyte.COM [SMTP:SharonG@Exabyte.COM]
> Sent:	Wednesday, February 17, 1999 9:44 AM
> To:	Kurt Shubert
> Subject:	RE: 
> 
> I hope you have time to answer this, you sound very knowledgeable about
> Oldsmobile's and my parents have a problem with their 1987 Olds Cutlass
> Supreme SW  For over a year they have had a problem with the car just
> stopping absolutely dead.  It can happen on the highway at 60 mph or in
town
> at 30 mph.  They lose ALL power, no lights, no brakes, no steering,
nothing.
> It usually starts right back up.  They have taken it to 5 different
> mechanics, including an Olds dealer, been charged for diagnostic testing
> which didn't show anything wrong, have had every tune up available, spent
> lots of money, and no one can figure out WHY this happens!  My Mom is 79
> years old and terrified to drive the car anymore, and can't afford to
trade
> it in.  Have you ever run across something like this?  If you can offer
any
> help at all it would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you so much.
> 
> Sharon Grucelski
> 1-800-447-3920 X7855
> sharong@exabyte.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Shubert [mailto:kshubert@apk.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 6:06 AM
> To: 'sharong@exabyte.com'
> Subject: 
> 
> 
> Thanks for visiting my webpage!
> 
> Whatcha need help with?
> 
> Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com   
> Centennial Feature at http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
> '65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
> '66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
> '66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo
> 

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:25:36 -0400
From: Matt Cremean <creme1ma@cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: What does a build sheet look like.....

Dshack4@aol.com wrote:
> 
> and what does it have on it?  All the options...all the build data..., 
please,
> some insite on this.  I have to find this damn thing, and want to know what 
it
> looks like!  I already know all the places to look (thanks to the list), but
> why is it so important to have???
> 
> Thanks a bunch
> "Shack"
> 
> David Shackleton
> hopefull owner of a 71 442 W-30
> Virginia Beach, VA

You can see a picture of one on my web page. Go to the 73 page, then
under Build Sheet.

- -- 
***********
Matt Cremean
mailto:creme1ma@cmich.edu
***********************
'70 Olds Cutlass 'S'
'73 Olds Cutlass Supreme
'75 Olds Cutlass 'S'
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/
*******************************************

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:35:57 +0000
From: Robert Lavey <rjlavey@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Bushing Install ?

Hi Dan,

At 08:51 PM 2/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm installing new bushings in my rear end.  I was going to use a ball
>joint, u-joint, brake anchor pin press (basically a large c-clamp with
>cups) to install the bushings.  However, this tool doesn't work because
>there is not enough clearance for the receiver cups.  What else can I
>use to install these bushings?  I have heard there is some sort of
>driving attachment for air hammers, but I have never seen any.  Is it
>possible to "beat" them in if I freeze the bushings for several days?

I've done this to 2 cars during the past year.  I have
a ball joint tool that I, too, hoped to use, but ran
into the same problem you did.  I used an air chisel
with a blunt attachment to remove the bushings, and I
used a length of steel pipe, several large _thick_
washers, and a _long_ grade-8 bolt.  I don't remember
the exact sizes/lengths of the pieces, but you need
pipe of a diameter that will fit over the small end
of the bushing and slightly longer than the bushing,
some _thick_ washers that don't fit into the pipe,
some _thick_ washers that do fit into the pipe, and
a bolt that is longer than the pipe's length plus
the bushing's length.

To install the bushings, install the bushings in the
housing, put the smaller washers on the bolt, and the
bolt through the bushing so the threaded end extends
through the bushing and the housing.  Place the pipe
over the housing opposite the bushing, put the larger
washers on the bolt, and install a nut.
Tightening the nut will cause the bushing to
be pulled through the housing and into the
pipe.

There are pictures, descriptions, and a much better
explanation of this procedure in the July 1994
issue of Performance Musclecars (which I'd be glad
to scan and send to you).

I bent several bolts, and several washers, but it
actually worked.  I only spent about an hour doing
the second car, after spending _lots_ more time than
that cussing and the first one!

Bob

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ----
 Robert J. Lavey			mailto://rjlavey@uswest.net
 13243 W. Dahlia Dr.			Home:  (208) 939-5418
 Boise, ID  83713-1302			Fax:   (208) 939-5452
- 
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-

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:37:33 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmon@webtv.net
Subject: Re: 1970 Olds W-30 Vista Cruiser. Huh?

Contacted seller, he posted addendum and lightened up on claim of
W30.Current bid @$1875.00.reserve not met.I asked how many miles on
car/no response.I dont know how much he thinks this car is worth,but 2
years ago I passed on one,in nicer shape with 54k on 1 owner car for
$2500.00

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:37:57 -0500
From: "Jim and Sharon Brady" <bradyiii@shore.intercom.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Here goes:
Jim Brady 30 years old
Network Engineer by day and Amatuer Auto Technician by night and weekends.
Olds:
1973 Delta 88 Royale Convertible,  455 Q-jet dual exhaust
Others:
1963 Chevy Belair 327cid w/super t10 4speed,  purchased new by Grandfather
in Oct. 1962
1971 F100 Pickup 360cid  4barrel, dual exhaust 4speed w/granny low
1987 Monte Carlo SS
1992 Pontiac Grand Am w/5speed

Married with 2 daughters.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:37:48 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parking

In a message dated 2/22/99 9:20:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
collins@peterboro.net writes:

<< List
 I have read the roll call reply with interest and I see many of the members
 have 5 and 6 Oldsmobiles.  My question is where to keep them all?  I am sure
 there are some interesting storage solutions out there.  I would like to
 know what you have done as I will reach the saturation point sometime this
 year and would like to know what others have done to overcome this problem.
  >>
     I am good friends with a body shop owner ( read free, secure parking )
and a auto repair shop owner. The auto repair place i eat lunch at every day
because the shop is located across the street from where i work.  So, i can
park 1 or two cars at both places.  The advantage of the auto body shop is
that i get to part out the wrecked cars that he purchases to rebiuld other
cars. If i am really desperate, the father in-law has a 5 car garage ( dirt
floor) and about 2 acres of land.  You'd be surprised how fast a tree grows
through the engine compartment of and old race car!!.....Scott

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:46:38 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Vista Cruiser on E-Bay

      In Regards to the car on Ebay....this was added at the bottom of the
add....Seems he must have gotten an e-mail box full of questions......SCOTT   


    <<ATTENTION!!! I need to clarify something on this car. On the original
build sheet, where it speaks of the engine, it does NOT say w-30. It says
Rocket 455 V8. I'm thinking this car has the W-30 engine because of the
extrememly high compression and the fact that the engine compartment sticker
indicates it is to be timed to w-30 specifications. I could be wrong, in this
assumption. If anyone can tell me how to tell for sure, engine stamp or
something, I would be gratefull. Sorry, if anyone would like to retract thier
bid I will understand. I should not have put W-30 on the build sheet list, it
was not my intention to be misleading. Thanks, Mark... 


- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- --
On 02/22/99 at 14:17:24 PDT, seller added the following information:
What I'm saying here is I cannot gaurentee that this engine is a W-30. All
things point to this being the case, but I cannot be 100% sure yet. If I find
out more info on it, I'll post it. Sorry about all the addendums. Mark... 

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:53:42 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Dual exhaust

Hi all,

What is the best way to put duals under a G body cutlass without
molesting too much of the original exhaust work and keeping a single
cat?

Thanks,
Brian.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:56:45 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Parking

What's worse is when you've decided that the car is junk and you have to
remove it from around the tree (big 4x4).

Brian

OLDS44272@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/22/99 9:20:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> collins@peterboro.net writes:
> 
> << List
>  I have read the roll call reply with interest and I see many of the members
>  have 5 and 6 Oldsmobiles.  My question is where to keep them all?  I am sure
>  there are some interesting storage solutions out there.  I would like to
>  know what you have done as I will reach the saturation point sometime this
>  year and would like to know what others have done to overcome this problem.
>   >>
>      I am good friends with a body shop owner ( read free, secure parking )
> and a auto repair shop owner. The auto repair place i eat lunch at every day
> because the shop is located across the street from where i work.  So, i can
> park 1 or two cars at both places.  The advantage of the auto body shop is
> that i get to part out the wrecked cars that he purchases to rebiuld other
> cars. If i am really desperate, the father in-law has a 5 car garage ( dirt
> floor) and about 2 acres of land.  You'd be surprised how fast a tree grows
> through the engine compartment of and old race car!!.....Scott

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:02:46 -0800
From: truric@imag.net
Subject: price?

i am toying with the idea of selling my 1972 442 i was just looking for
some kind of idea what it might be worth i don't really want to sell but
sure could use the money right now
anyway:
1972 442  flame orange 455 auto leather interior  ss wheels new dual ex
and brakes some rust in the trunk lid front fenders and quater panels but
nothing major solid trunk and floor pan  pw/pb/ps/pl  interior light group
100000 miles got lots of pics if interested just looking for a ruff idea in
cnd dollars if possiable
thanks in advance 
rick 
1972 442

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:03:06 -0600
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: Dual exhaust

>What is the best way to put duals under a G body cutlass without
>molesting too much of the original exhaust work and keeping a single
>cat?


Probably the easiest way is to go to the dual outlet exhaust from a 442 or
H/O. That is if you can find the proper exhaust hangers, or fabricate your
own. The original style exhaust is available from Walker (original OEM
manufacturer). I've replaced mine with this system and love it. Jason Adcock
has converted his 84 Calais to this system as well, and seems to be pleased.
:-)

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:10:36 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Dual exhaust

You can order a "replacement" cat-back exhaust system from Walker.  They
manufactured the exhaust for 442's and you can still get the setup with high
flow mufflers and all the pipes and correct hangers you need from the cat
back.  I believe it's around $200.  It's good for a few horsepower and
sounds real good too.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.bdzi.com/timesavers.htm
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Brian Shankle
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 10:54 PM
To: Olds_gbody@listbot.com; oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Dual exhaust


Hi all,

What is the best way to put duals under a G body cutlass without
molesting too much of the original exhaust work and keeping a single
cat?

Thanks,
Brian.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:09:50 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: History Museum

They have moved!!! but are still unpacking...Hot Rod Harry

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:10:25 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Dual exhaust

Yeah, I do love it.  There's still an issue with the catalytic converter
sealing at the front, but that's the fault of the new cat, not the system.
The Walker system is HIGHLY recommended by me and Mark...anyone else have
the Walker on their G-body?

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tupper <mtupper@palacenet.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>;
Olds_gbody@listbot.com <Olds_gbody@listbot.com>
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Dual exhaust


>Probably the easiest way is to go to the dual outlet exhaust from a 442 or
>H/O. That is if you can find the proper exhaust hangers, or fabricate your
>own. The original style exhaust is available from Walker (original OEM
>manufacturer). I've replaced mine with this system and love it. Jason
Adcock
>has converted his 84 Calais to this system as well, and seems to be
pleased.
>:-)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:15:15 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Dual exhaust

FYI-The Walker system comes with all the proper hangers, making the swap a
joke.  Maybe you have to order the hangers separately actually; I don't
remember.  But they've got them.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.bdzi.com/timesavers.htm
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Mark Tupper
Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:03 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca; Olds_gbody@listbot.com
Subject: Re: Dual exhaust


>What is the best way to put duals under a G body cutlass without
>molesting too much of the original exhaust work and keeping a single
>cat?


Probably the easiest way is to go to the dual outlet exhaust from a 442 or
H/O. That is if you can find the proper exhaust hangers, or fabricate your
own. The original style exhaust is available from Walker (original OEM
manufacturer). I've replaced mine with this system and love it. Jason Adcock
has converted his 84 Calais to this system as well, and seems to be pleased.
:-)

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:15:40 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Dual exhaust

Whoops, double posting.  Sorry about that.

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Master Costanzo
Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:11 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: Dual exhaust


You can order a "replacement" cat-back exhaust system from Walker.  They
manufactured the exhaust for 442's and you can still get the setup with high
flow mufflers and all the pipes and correct hangers you need from the cat
back.  I believe it's around $200.  It's good for a few horsepower and
sounds real good too.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.bdzi.com/timesavers.htm
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Brian Shankle
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 10:54 PM
To: Olds_gbody@listbot.com; oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Dual exhaust


Hi all,

What is the best way to put duals under a G body cutlass without
molesting too much of the original exhaust work and keeping a single
cat?

Thanks,
Brian.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:16:12 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: price?

$50.  But, I'll give you $55.

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of truric@imag.net
Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:03 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: price?


i am toying with the idea of selling my 1972 442 i was just looking for
some kind of idea what it might be worth i don't really want to sell but
sure could use the money right now
anyway:
1972 442  flame orange 455 auto leather interior  ss wheels new dual ex
and brakes some rust in the trunk lid front fenders and quater panels but
nothing major solid trunk and floor pan  pw/pb/ps/pl  interior light group
100000 miles got lots of pics if interested just looking for a ruff idea in
cnd dollars if possiable
thanks in advance 
rick 
1972 442

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:19:44 EST
From: Bbymks4@aol.com
Subject: Re: price?

             I'll go $60.00 (American)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:28:27 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Dual exhaust

I think everyone's got Walker on his G-body since they've been making all
exhaust systems for GM for years.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.bdzi.com/timesavers.htm
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Jason Adcock
Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:10 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca; Olds_gbody@listbot.com
Subject: Re: Dual exhaust


Yeah, I do love it.  There's still an issue with the catalytic converter
sealing at the front, but that's the fault of the new cat, not the system.
The Walker system is HIGHLY recommended by me and Mark...anyone else have
the Walker on their G-body?

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tupper <mtupper@palacenet.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>;
Olds_gbody@listbot.com <Olds_gbody@listbot.com>
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Dual exhaust


>Probably the easiest way is to go to the dual outlet exhaust from a 442 or
>H/O. That is if you can find the proper exhaust hangers, or fabricate your
>own. The original style exhaust is available from Walker (original OEM
>manufacturer). I've replaced mine with this system and love it. Jason
Adcock
>has converted his 84 Calais to this system as well, and seems to be
pleased.
>:-)

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