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oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, February 7 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1758



Need help w/ value.
RE: Greetings, and questions..
Re: Sport Steering Wheels.
Re: Need help w/ value.
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Re: Rochester Carbs
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:38:37 -0500 (EST)
From: hurst455@webtv.net (Corey Putnam)
Subject: Need help w/ value.

While I was searching for a 455 this last week, I ran across a 425 w/ a
steel crank,(of course)and C heads. The bore and main and rod jurnals
are all standard. I was wondering if anyone could help me find a
ballpark figure for what this engine might sell for. Thanks
P.S. I also have a nice 74 442 for sale, more on that if anyone is
interested.  

Corey Putnam 75 455 Hurst/Olds                 H/OCA # 0915A.OCA #
031264                                               

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:56:51 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Greetings, and questions..

Hey Norm.  Welcome.

Hi all..
I'm a member of the F-Body-Classic list..have been on there for over two
years now...
Was the proud owner of a 68 Firebird Convertible, and am currently restoring
a 79 T/A.

I just bought a 77 T/A for a motor donor. The engine is a 403 Olds. I am not
familiar with Olds engines at all. The engine has 4A heads on it, and
appears stock. I don't have the numbers handy for the engine, but I can get
them later tonight. The engine has the stock q-jet carb on it, along with
stock iron manifold. Here are my questions..

1. What is the hp rating of this engine?
about 180, Adcock knows all the exact specs.  I think he has it all
memorized for fun. Torque is around 320 though!  That's the beauty of
Oldsmobile, they say, screw horsepower, let's go for torque.


2. Compression ratio?

8.0 or 8.5  Why am I answering this if I don't know the exact answer?  Well,
what's the difference between 8 and 8.5.  Basically, the anser is "low".
3. What type of heads can I put on to up the compression ratio. This will be
a daily driver, but I want a little oompf. Someone mentioned 7A and 5A
heads.

Yes.  But that is 7a not 7A.  There's a difference.  7A's are found on 85
and up 307's.  Or is it 86 and up?  7a's are from 72 350.  When you look at
the head, the "a" is actually capital, but it's small compared to the 7.
Those heads on a a stock 403 will give you approx. 9.8:1.



4. A good cam recommendation?

I like my cam.  Of course, the only thing I can compare it against is a
stock 403.  So, who knows if mines good or not.  All I know is that my car
is pretty fast and it's reliable and it's definitely okay for a daily
driver.


I don't want to dump too much money into this engine...basically some minor
add-ons..as soon as I finish this car, I'm selling it and getting another 68
Firebird.

If you don't want to dupm a lot of money in it, just get some gears.  That
403 is already torquey and doesn't need to be built.  Maybe throw on an
Edelbrock intake and carb so it looks cool and is easier to sell.

Thanks for replies in advance!
sure.
See ya.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

Norm (What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?) Muelleman
ICQ: 3156478
norm806@dialnet.net

View my webpage at: http://members.dialnet.net/norm806
Updated 1-28-99

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:41:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: Sport Steering Wheels.

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Looks like I have my winner.  I have a couple
of Starfire Wheels.  Mine both have the molded stitching as mentioned.
I thought they were about an inch smaller...  They do look nice in the
matching color...  Thanks to all those who
responded.

I don't have an original car, and I don't have an
original wheel, so I can deal with that!  I have
been saving the black wheel in case I ever decided to change interiors-
but what do you suppose it would be worth?  Any opinions are
welcomed.  The wheels in is pretty nice shape-
with a little bit of wear from normal driving- no
cracks- and the button is pretty near mint.  I don't have the bracket
that holds the button to the wheel, but I have seen it in one of the
resto
catalogs.

Thanks guys.

Kevin
Dr-Olds@webtv.net


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All 70-72 sport steering wheels are black and the same size. The 1975-80?
Starfires used a very similar wheel but it was color coded and about an inch
smaller in diameter. The smaller ones also have a molded stiching around the
inside edge that the 70-72 black ones don't have.
  I have a green smaller one on my Vista Cruiser that has a green interior it
looks neat also has the green horn button on it.

Everett  OCA# 1961  1961 Starfire   1971 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:56:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: Need help w/ value.

As long as we are asking values- what do you
think about this one...  I bought my 72 Supreme
from a guy about 3 years ago.  It had a "rebuilt
455" in it.  The guy couldn't get it to run.  I messed with the carb and
timing for a day or so
and gave up- and put my already great running
rebuilt motor into the car, where it still is.  A year later I got bored
and dug into the other 
motor.  What I found was iritating. All new parts
everything was spotless.  Looks like they used
the original pistons, and I have no idea what kind of work was done to
it, but it looked right, 
except the cam was installed 180 degrees off.
The timing marks were just not aligned right.

Since that time, I have stolen the pushrods,
and rocker assemblies- for a top half freshening
up of my current motor.  I also noticed the Holley Carb on it was used,
and was leaking gas from the throttle area someplace.  Other
than that, I think all parts are still there.

What I do know about it is-  It has a stock 4bbl
manifold, J heads- I'm guessing it is a 73 motor.
Has a Crane Cam- older grind- I called them
and they gave me the specs based on the P/N
cch284-2-nc  491-518 lift  282-290 duration.
The motor is torn down to the short-block.  All
parts are organized and boxed carefully.

What is this worth, based on the fact that I don't
know what machine work was done and by whom?  The cam is definitely new-
the engine
still had assembly lube present- and was never
fired.  I was going to keep it as a spare, but considering I am storing
it in borrowed space,
I'm ready to reconsider.  Anybody want to take
a chance on it?  Make an offer.  (I am in Hartford, WI- suburb of
Milwaukee, and I don't
have a way to deliver.  Also appreciate any opinions on worth.

Kevin D. Wood
Dr-Olds@webtv.net

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:47:36 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:52:19 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

In a message dated 2/6/99 6:32:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ainode@frontiernet.net writes:

<<  (when you floor it,
 it bogs and stalls, does not shift down to a lower gear). >>

       Thats not a primary function of the carb itself (the downshifting).
That has to do with the transmission kickdown, and I'm assuming this is a
TH350 trans, with the detent (kickdown) cable mounted to the throttle linkage
on the carb. Sounds like the detent isn't working correctly to me. If your
secondary air valves open too much too early, this can cause a bog. Dorian

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:57:30 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

ok illget it right for all ya....... it has a 455, 4 bbl. i dont know what
trans it has. the secondaries are always open. the passing gear has never
been engaged by me, cos i cant! the arb is dirty as heck too.
ok ther we go.
thanks
Erik
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To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs


>In a message dated 2/6/99 6:32:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>ainode@frontiernet.net writes:
>
><<  (when you floor it,
> it bogs and stalls, does not shift down to a lower gear). >>
>
>       Thats not a primary function of the carb itself (the downshifting).
>That has to do with the transmission kickdown, and I'm assuming this is a
>TH350 trans, with the detent (kickdown) cable mounted to the throttle
linkage
>on the carb. Sounds like the detent isn't working correctly to me. If your
>secondary air valves open too much too early, this can cause a bog. Dorian
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:51:33 -0500
From: "Jeanne Laroche" <jlaroche@together.net>
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1757

Hi, its me again, the over spray will not hurt the wires or affect them in
anyway.

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