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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, February 22 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1796



Re: Overdrive tranny with Hurst dual gate?
Frame-Off
Re: Frame-Off
Re: Rechroming bumpers...need suggestions!
Re: re gauges 86 salon-list
RE: re gauges 86 salon-list
Re: [Re: Resto $$]
Subscribe Oldsmobile
Re: Roll Call (better late than never)
Re: Roll Call (better late than never)
Re: Roll Call 
Last Call for "Roll Call"!
new name
Re: Frame-Off
Re: re gauges 86 salon-list
new 71 owner
Re: re gauges 86 salon-list
Roll Call
Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#67388848: Rare Factory Chrome 
Airc...
Re: Roll Call
Re: CCC Feedback Quadrajet -- fast idle & air cleaner question.
Re: new 71 owner
Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#67388848: Rare Factory Chrome 
Airc...
Roll Call
RE: Roll Call
550? was: Last Call for "Roll Call"!
Re: Frame-Off
Need stereo help again please....
1969 442 Trunk Molding
unsubscribe
[none]
Stripes!!!  Bill Murrey
Differential Oil
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: Differential Oil
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: Roll Call
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
help
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: carb
RE: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Retro Rockets Ignition Upgrade
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: Retro Rockets Ignition Upgrade
Re: Differential Oil
Re: twilight sentinel
Re: Frame-Off
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: TIME OUT
wheel backspacing
How to take a frame off the body???
Roll Call
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
'37 Olds Owner (fwd)
UNBOUNCE: 550? was: Last Call for "Roll Call"!
Re: Roll Call
Roll Call
Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!
Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: W-30 Production Totals(65 "442"code)
Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!
Roll Call
Re: (65 and 66 "442"code)
72 Cutlass Parts Needed.
Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!
Re: 72 Cutlass Parts Needed.
Hot Rod Power Club
Re: 72 Cutlass Parts Needed
My Classic Car Episode
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Re: My Classic Car Episode
Re: Roll Call
emails
Re: Hot Rod Power Club
Re: How to take a frame off the body???

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:59:28 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Overdrive tranny with Hurst dual gate?

Mike;
Wheels match perfect, 442 and all, will keep you all informed, thanks.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Mike Rothe. <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Overdrive tranny with Hurst dual gate?
> Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 5:40 PM

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:21:47 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Frame-Off

Always been curious about this part of restoration:

<snip>
>
>3.  Lift body off chassis
>


Ummm....how does one go about that? Four big dudes grab & lift? A sky hook?

Where do you put a car body once it's off.. on cinderblocks? Railroad ties?

drc

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:39:15 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: Re: Frame-Off

List,
           I attached my engine hoist to the
seat belt mount bolts and put bricks on the
front floor pan to act as counter weights.
Once detached and the frame out from under
I  lowered it onto the wooden frame 
I had prepared with large (about 2")
wheels and pushed it out of the the way.


The General

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:17:06 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Rechroming bumpers...need suggestions!

I had both bumpers on my 68 442 straightened and replated here in
Lubbock, TX for about $250 each.  This was 4 years ago.  The rear was in
great core condition, minor pitting and one small ding.  The front was
awful, the "V" above the hood release was inverted and torn.  The bumper
had even stretched a little around the mounts.  Aside from welds inside
the front bumper, both are show quality.  At that time, they did not
stock the correct bolts.  I got those from Year One.

They were replated by Plains Electro-Plating, (806)-763-9308

Jeff Carter
blue442@webtv.net

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:27:39 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: re gauges 86 salon-list

I have that problem too, but haven't solved it yet.  My gauges came from
a 87 Salon.
Brian.


terry moore wrote:
> 
> I have an 86 salon,the problem is when it's cold,the gas and volt
> gauges don't work untill it heats up inside the car or I whack the
> dash in the right spot.
> The problem I think may be the printed circut board.    Has anyone had
> this problem and solved it.
> 
> _________________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:44:20 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: re gauges 86 salon-list

Open it up and solder all thr clip connections.  You can tell by looking at
them that the connection isn't great and if the metal contracts (like when
it's cold) the connection coul deasily be lost.  You have to pull the whole
cluster out to do this, which isn't really that hard, just a bit of a pain.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.bdzi.com/timesavers.htm
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Brian Shankle
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 1999 12:28 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: re gauges 86 salon-list


I have that problem too, but haven't solved it yet.  My gauges came from
a 87 Salon.
Brian.


terry moore wrote:
>
> I have an 86 salon,the problem is when it's cold,the gas and volt
> gauges don't work untill it heats up inside the car or I whack the
> dash in the right spot.
> The problem I think may be the printed circut board.    Has anyone had
> this problem and solved it.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:36:52 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Re: Resto $$]

'Not sure about the similarity from year-to-year, but what I'm looking for are
things like: correct routing and connection points of battery cables, plug
wires; correct orientation and mounting of coil, appearance of horn relay,
alternator, brake booster, brake reservoir; routing and connection of vacuum
hoses; clamps used for radiator, heater hoses, connections from valve covers
to air cleaner, etc.  This engine has been played around with a lot and my
goal is showroom correct, in set up and colors. Have seen several photos, but
none are complete or comprehensive enough to cover all of the above.  Any help
appreciated...

Scott 
71 442 Conv 

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:54:41 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Subscribe Oldsmobile

subscribe oldsmobile

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:55:42 -0500
From: "DENNEY KEYS" <dkeys@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Roll Call (better late than never)

Although it's late, I'll add my info (that's what happens when you spend a
lot of time out of town AND you are on the digest)...

Denney Keys
Mitchellville, MD
Engineer with NASA, Goddard Space Flight Center
Oldsmobiles (and other vehicles) owned currently:
>1966 Cutlass Convertible
>1971 Cutlass Supreme SX
>1973 Cutlass S 442
>1995 Cutlass Supreme SL (Wife's car)
>1999 Bravada
>1966 Corvette Coupe
>1994 Corvette Convertible
Which can all be seen at;
http://hometown.aol.com/drivevette

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:27:55 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call (better late than never)

ok, ok, ok already!...sheeeeesh!

Collyn Eastham

Fulltime: Routeman for Earthgrains Baking Company (breadman!)
Parttime: Restoration consultant for S.W.A.T. (Southwest Auto Trimmers) 

Cars I own,
93 Ford Lightning
93 Ford Thunderbird SC
65 Cutlass Holiday Coupe
65 442 Holiday Coupe
65 Pontiac GTO Post
(2) 65 Pontiac GTO Coupes One tri-power, one 4bl
(2) 64 Pontiac GTO Coupes 
64 Pontiac GTO Convertible
65 Shelby GT-350
65 Mustang Fastback GT (K-code)
66 Mustang Coupe (a ~REAL~ Candyapple Red w/red interior)

My wife Melissa is a Gold Card Judge and Mustang Restoration specialist for 64
1/2 thru 66 Mustang/Shelby. 

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:35:26 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call 

Since Greg said it's OK...

Kurt Heinrich
Frederick, MD
Married
2 boys (Oldsnuts)
Drill Dept Manager, Automata Int'l (PCB manufacturer)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
95 Aurora 
OCA# 30442

*****************************************************
* visit my home page at http://www.erols.com/old442 *
*****************************************************

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:35:38 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

Last call for Roll Call.

To date I've only logged 201 unique Olds List member responses. A far cry
from the near 550 we have registered with the list. I do realize that many
are probably digest members. And I'm sure that many of them may not get a
chance but to glance their accumulated digest(s) occasionally. What ever
your status to the list, If you would like to be included in a current list
of members and their primary info, please respond to either the list or
directly to myself. If you previously have posted your "Roll Call" info
please do not respond again. We're looking for age, cars, living location,
and income source (Jobs?) that support your hobby (or habit) of Olds Cars.
If you wish to include family info, that's fine too. It's interesting to see
all the different employment talents and where we are all from. I'm
unofficially collecting all Roll Call posts and will assemble a final List
in say about 3 weeks. This is sufficient time for even the remotest member
to have viewed the request and respond. If you would prefer not to post (for
what ever reason) but do wish to be included in the final list, you may
respond directly to me at:

gjcouse@francomm.com

Please make sure your Subject Line states "Roll Call" whether your
responding personally to me or via a List post. Once again allow me to
remind that anyone wishing to respond to an original "Roll Call" posting,
please somehow change the subject line. This makes it a lot easier to pick
out just original entries.

Thanks all, and have a good Olds-ing week.    Gary........

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom's
Route-1, Box-615
Purling, NY 12470

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
gjcouse@cc-iroc-ss.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:48:24 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: new name

I've changed my AOL screen name in order to separate the olds-related e-mail
from the rest.  This will make my non-Olds family very happy.  So CPEARLPARK
won't be seen on the list anymore, but I'm still here.  I will now be
sparker442@aol.com.  Much more appropriate, don't you think?  Thanks for your
cooperation and continuing invaluable assistance as I continue my "Journey
with Olds"...

Scott 
71 442 Conv.

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:25:02 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Frame-Off

In a message dated 2/21/99 8:27:55 AM Pacific Standard Time,
david.cullen@snet.net writes:

<< Ummm....how does one go about that? Four big dudes grab & lift? A sky hook?
 
 Where do you put a car body once it's off.. on cinderblocks? Railroad ties?
 
 drc >>
 Sorry, not Olds, but I've got a K5 Blazer off the frame. Body completely
stripped, and set it on pallets, as they are wide enough to support it without
tipping. The hard part WILL be getting it up high enough to put back on the
frame...whoever said engine hoist to the seat belt points is a genius I must
say though!   Dorian

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:41:05 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: re gauges 86 salon-list

In a message dated 2/21/99 5:27:53 AM Pacific Standard Time,
tc_moore@yahoo.com writes:

<< I have an 86 salon,the problem is when it's cold,the gas and volt
 gauges don't work untill it heats up inside the car or I whack the
 dash in the right spot.  
 The problem I think may be the printed circut board.    Has anyone had
 this problem and solved it. >>

       Yes. Pull out the cluster, clean contacts on both ends of the plug (I
used oooo steel wool on them...dash and cluster) spread the connectors on the
dash so they are more "springy" and lightly coat both with some type if grease
(I used lubriplate) I haven't had a problem since. If that doesn't work, you
now know how to remove it, and can try soldering it...I just didn't want to go
through that trouble. I didn't have problems with mine after the cleaning and
greasing.    Dorian

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:46:32 -0800
From: "chuck manning" <chuckmanning@email.msn.com>
Subject: new 71 owner

I appreciate the advice on "grandma's" car and the more I think about it the
smarter it seems to keep it in its original condition.  But there is a few
things I NEED to do.  The car needs duel exhaust and at least some rally
wheels.  What I would like to know is how much the car is worth.  Now I can
look in the traders and classified to get an idea but those cars are pretty
hammered.  The only thing on this car is it has some rust in the lower
quarter panels and a couple of dings.   I hate to say this but I did put a
hitch on it and we tow our 71 aristocrat travel trailer with it.
    I would like to know the value of this car (or approximate value)  any
info would be helpful.  thanks......   chuck

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:51:36 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: re gauges 86 salon-list

> << I have an 86 salon,the problem is when it's cold,the gas and volt
>  gauges don't work untill it heats up inside the car or I whack the
>  dash in the right spot.
>  The problem I think may be the printed circut board.    Has anyone had
>  this problem and solved it. >>

Check this out
http://members.tripod.com/~Oldsmagnet/GuageFix.htm 




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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:50:05 -0800
From: "Greg Yonge" <gsyonge@pe.net>
Subject: Roll Call

Greg Yonge
OCA #029415
Riverside, CA
LAN Administrator & Software specialist for GE Capital.

1969 Cutlass S Convertible w/ factory 4 spd.
1997 Aurora
1992 Achieva SC 5spd

1965 442 Convertible (not mine, but in the family!)

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:08:28 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#67388848: Rare Factory 
Chrome Airc...

In a message dated 99-02-21 10:45:17 EST, you write:

> 
>  I saw this on eBay - any '66 442 4-speed owners out there?  According to
the 
> description
>  this air cleaner was only available on the the '66's...

Waiting for Jim Chermack or Greg Rollins' comments on the item.

Does not sound like a dealer or original 3x2 shroud so must be for normal Q-
jet carbs on 1966 4 4 2's.

(Yeh, noticed item earlier than the original post)

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:09:52 -0500
From: "Robb Nevins" <nevinsr@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

>At 05:53 PM 2/16/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Just curious...how many Oldsmobilers do we have here, where y'all from,
and
>>what do you do to pay the restoration/gas/insurance/tire bills?  I'll
start:
>>
>>Drew A. Durigan
>>Hays, Kansas
>>Midday personality on Mix103FM, one of three co-owned Radio, Inc. stations
>>here in Western Kansas.

Robb Nevins
Charlotte, Michigan
1964 F-85 Cutlass 2-door Sport Coupe
Firearms Technician, Michigan State Police
nevinsr@voyager.net

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:17:26 -0500
From: Steve Ochs <Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: CCC Feedback Quadrajet -- fast idle & air cleaner question.

Message text written by INTERNET:oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net
>What is this extra filter for ?<

Absorbs fuel vapors from carb. while vehicle is parked - contains charcoal
I believe

Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma, Ohio
Transmission Division (4T60/65-E & 4L60-E) - Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com
The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division

'96 DCM Impala SS (Naisso #1365)  '87 Olds Cutlass 442 (OCA #028505)

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:20:21 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: new 71 owner

By your description now and before on the list and without really seeing the
car I will give you a price range between 2000 and 3,200 to be fare. Dont sell
her, enjoy! Hot Rod Harry <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">
1973 Olds Cutlass 455 4speed</A> 

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:25:36 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#67388848: Rare Factory 
Chrome Airc...

Karl & all

        From what I was able to gather, it is a 4 spd open air cleaner that was
used on 66-67 stick cars.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts
66 442 W-30
66 442 Race Car



At 04:08 PM 2/21/99 , you wrote:
>In a message dated 99-02-21 10:45:17 EST, you write:
>
>> 
>>  I saw this on eBay - any '66 442 4-speed owners out there?  According to
>the 
>> description
>>  this air cleaner was only available on the the '66's...
>
>Waiting for Jim Chermack or Greg Rollins' comments on the item.
>
>Does not sound like a dealer or original 3x2 shroud so must be for normal Q-
>jet carbs on 1966 4 4 2's.
>
>(Yeh, noticed item earlier than the original post)
>
>SOM
>
>&KA

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:33:48 EST
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Roll Call

Dennis Baker
Clovis, CA (central Ca.)
Custom Home Builder
Capt. AFRes.
Oldsmobiles I own:
3-68 Hursts (2 for sale)
1-68 Cutlass conv. 4 spd
1-69 Hurst
1-70 SX
1-70 Ralley 350
1-71 Supreme Conv.
2-72 Supreme Conv.
1-72 442 Conv.
1-72 Vista Cruiser (FOR SALE-$2200) Nice optioned car
1-84 Hurst 

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:48:11 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Roll Call

You have 13 Oldsmobiles.  That kicks ass.  Got a daughter who would come
with a dowery?

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.bdzi.com/timesavers.htm
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo
- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Socalolds@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 4:34 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Roll Call


Dennis Baker
Clovis, CA (central Ca.)
Custom Home Builder
Capt. AFRes.
Oldsmobiles I own:
3-68 Hursts (2 for sale)
1-68 Cutlass conv. 4 spd
1-69 Hurst
1-70 SX
1-70 Ralley 350
1-71 Supreme Conv.
2-72 Supreme Conv.
1-72 442 Conv.
1-72 Vista Cruiser (FOR SALE-$2200) Nice optioned car
1-84 Hurst

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:49:12 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: 550? was: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

In a message dated 99-02-21 14:37:34 EST, you write:

> To date I've only logged 201 unique Olds List member responses. A far cry
>  from the near 550 we have registered with the list.

There are only some 336 that subscribe to the  real time list.

At least one of those is also on the digest, but no names (Joe P.) will be
mentioned.

Karl thinks members have some right to anonymity, but will mention some not
heard from.

Esko and Anelli Illola (sp?) are apparently still on the digest and deserve
honorable mention, in bygone days a listmember aided them in aquiring a
replacement 394 for their 1964 Dynamic 88.

They live in Finland. (Now ~that~ makes the above noteworthy!)

Furthermore this is a good time for karl to ask for a moment of silence for
"the Wiz".
Karl did not know him by name during the time that Karl and he subscribed to
the list, but for a great while the Wiz was a great source of Olds wisdom that
set the overall atmosphere for the list where Karl is concerned. The "Wiz"
unsubscribed for a vacation during which there apparently was an accident,
subsequent Emailings were less cohererent than normal and ceased shortly
thereafter (partialy based on word-of-mouth from G. B.)

Also deserving mention is Jeff Easton, who has been compiling the archives
from the Oldsmobile digests.

Have not really been paying that much attention, but wish to also give
"noteworthy" status to Clayton Peirce, R.C. Hellebuck (sp?), David Brown, Drew
Senko, Dr. Barry (who did make roll call but bears mentioning as well as ..)
Jim Chermac, Chris Brown Witt (the Rocket Scientist, and not a current
susscriber), Tom Stoner, Tom Lentz, and many onther voices that have become
silent though they "lurk" on the digest.

Yes, Karl fails to mention many on the digest who have been mainstays on the
Oldsmobile "list".

Wish to make special mention of the recent notables; Ken Snyder, Greg Rollins,
Tom Smith, and Lou Biggs, among many, many others.

The last is as great a source of non-Olds-related as Olds-related material,
but then, so was the "Wiz".

In fond memory.

Karl Aune

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:01:20 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: Re: Frame-Off

>whoever said engine hoist to the seat belt points is a genius I must
>say though!   Dorian


        List,
                This worked on my drop-top. It might be a bit tricky
with a hardtop.....

The Geni    ummmm  I mean The General   :o{)}

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:12:08 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: Need stereo help again please....

Is there a list for stereo's that anyone knows of?!

So, if there's anyone out there who is experienced in recording in the
digital domain, please e-mail me @ costanzo@netcarrier.com .  Thank y'all.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.bdzi.com/timesavers.htm
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:15:59 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

        HELP!!!
          The trunk molding on my 1969 442 has a rather large dent in approx.
2x.5in. Anybody have any ideas as to where I can have it repaired if it is
indeed repairable.     
          Rich
           Moscow,Pa.

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:19:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Psychotic redhead <ellwit@yahoo.com>
Subject: unsubscribe

 
 
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:17:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Psychotic redhead <ellwit@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:23:15 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Stripes!!!  Bill Murrey

On right now Comedy Central, DSS#255  I know there's a few "classic" show fans
out there.

Olds content.  For those who have watched closely...  During the openning Cab
scene, Murrey cuts off a car in traffic that ~almost~ looked like an early 80's
Toro from the front end.  Except it looked like a wagon!  It only showed a 
split
second of it, so I couldn't identify it.  Anyone got it recorded, or notice
before?

Anyways, for those who love this classic, it's on right now :)
- -- 

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:39:31 -0500
From: "Mick Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Differential Oil

Just did a much needed gasket change on my diff. cover. Where the heck is
the filler plug? I found a set screw type plug on the pass side that has a
socket head something like an Allen screw. The trouble is it's square. What
kind of wrench fits this and how do I pour oil in a hole that's parallel to
the ground????
TIA.
==============================================
Mick Gillespie, Melbourne, FL
69 Cutlass Conv.
80 Toronado Brougham
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
==============================================

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:35:58 EST
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

??
None of the '69 442's I've ever seen had trunk moldings. Now '69 Supremes did,
and '68 442's did, but not any '69 442's.
Peter
coupeking
'69 CS
''69 442 rag
'68 442
'67 CS rag
'66 442 eag
'66 442 L69 
(roll call?..)

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:43:13 EST
From: MrExMt@aol.com
Subject: Re: Differential Oil

Mick
use your 3/8 ratchet, put an extension on it & it will fit the square. To
refil I put a 8 inch piece of hose that will fit the fill hole & tape it to
the bottle of oil. Just put it in the hole & tip it up to fill. Also I jack up
the rear pass. side of the car for more clearance.
Good luck!
LEIGH TENENHOLTZ
'68 Cutlass S Convert.

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:44:32 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

  Molding 1969 442 has a very thin I believe stainless molding that runs
across the bottom of the trunk. This piece is unique to the 442. It is only
about a half inch thick.
        Rich

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:44:35 -0500
From: "John Richmond" <richmond@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

John Richmond
Warren, MI
Computer Programmer
Currently doing contract work at DaimlerChrysler

72 442 455
See my car on my home page http://www.tir.com/~richmond

Member of Oldsmobile Street Rockets of Detroit
http://members.aol.com/WMACHINES/site6.html

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:54:04 EST
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

Rich-
that's an optional molding that not all 442's had. Nice piece, and probably
straightenable as it's stainless steel. Might put a 'Parts Wtd' ad on
Bryceman's page.
Peter

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:00:29 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

   Peter I did that and I got I can't afford prices as high as $500. Thats why
I'm  asking if anybody knows a shop that would be able to repair my piece.
   Rich

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:02:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Psychotic redhead <ellwit@yahoo.com>
Subject: help

does anyone know how to unsubscribe? please. 
==



                                     --  Psychotic Redhead   
                                        :P + :) 


_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:02:45 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

I think most body shops can help.  We had a piece of stainless
straightened that had been snagged by a car washer and bent out 90
degrees.  The body shop made it look OK but you can still see some
"wrinkles" where it was straightened.

After you get the dent massaged out polish the item with jewelers rouge
and it will be a shiny as chrome and look much nicer than most 30 year
old stainless.  

BTW: I thought this was standard not optional on the 442's.  It's a rare
piece and if you need another one it will be imperfect or pricey.  I had
an ad on the 442 site for months and I had two offers, a dented one for
$25 or a "show quality" one for $275.  I bought the dented one and I'll
be fixing it just like you are.

CARMAN442@aol.com wrote:
> 
>         HELP!!!
>           The trunk molding on my 1969 442 has a rather large dent in approx.
> 2x.5in. Anybody have any ideas as to where I can have it repaired if it is
> indeed repairable.
>           Rich
>            Moscow,Pa.

- -- 
Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:09:22 EST
From: GHeath4138@aol.com
Subject: Re: carb

YES

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:10:59 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

I do believe I saw an ad today on 442.com for this molding. Think it was $60
but not positive.   Gary.....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of CARMAN442@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 5:16 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 1969 442 Trunk Molding
>
>
>         HELP!!!
>           The trunk molding on my 1969 442 has a rather large
> dent in approx.
> 2x.5in. Anybody have any ideas as to where I can have it repaired if it is
> indeed repairable.
>           Rich
>            Moscow,Pa.
>

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:23:47 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Retro Rockets Ignition Upgrade

    Anybody out there upgrade their ignition with a retrorocket upgrade kit?
I've seen it advertised on Bryceman's page and it sounds pretty good. But
before I spend the money I'd like to have some good news about it.
              Rich
               1969 442

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:31:01 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

Just covers the bottom edge.  You only see about 1/4" of it all across
the bottom.  Used only on 442 and Hurst/Olds in 1969. (the H/O WAS
actually a 442 to start with)

>   Molding 1969 442 has a very thin I believe stainless molding that runs
> across the bottom of the trunk. This piece is unique to the 442. It is only
> about a half inch thick.

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:34:21 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

> that's an optional molding that not all 442's had. 

Standard on all 69 442s, along with the paint stripe right above it that
went across and then around the tail light openings.  I think you may
have been able to delete the paint stripe, but not the molding.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:37:01 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Retro Rockets Ignition Upgrade

Rich

        Every points car I have has a Ignitor in it. They are great and he's
asking a very fair price for them. Took 15 minutes to install.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts
66 442 W-30     
66 442 Race Car

At 06:23 PM 2/21/99 , you wrote:
>    Anybody out there upgrade their ignition with a retrorocket upgrade kit?
>I've seen it advertised on Bryceman's page and it sounds pretty good. But
>before I spend the money I'd like to have some good news about it.
>              Rich
>               1969 442

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:37:56 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Differential Oil

Mark

        Use a 3/8 rachet extension.

Jim Chermack


At 05:39 PM 2/21/99 , you wrote:
>Just did a much needed gasket change on my diff. cover. Where the heck is
>the filler plug? I found a set screw type plug on the pass side that has a
>socket head something like an Allen screw. The trouble is it's square. What
>kind of wrench fits this and how do I pour oil in a hole that's parallel to
>the ground????
>TIA.
>==============================================
>Mick Gillespie, Melbourne, FL
>69 Cutlass Conv.
>80 Toronado Brougham
>mgillespie@sprynet.com
>http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm
>==============================================
>

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:40:01 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: twilight sentinel

In a message dated 2/19/99 7:04:09 PM EST, cshankle@home.com writes:

<<  I know the DRL's are
 automatic, but is there a switch in the car for them, especially for the
 timer?  How would this mount, and is it original equipment or does it
 look aftermarket-like? >>

Brian,
Everything is controlled by a black box which mounts under the dash. I mounted
mine on the steering column with those plastic tie wraps. There is a button on
the box that allows you to set the lights cutoff from 0 to about two minutes.
Since it's hidden, no one can tell its there. I'm thinking about putting one
on my 56 Benz.
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv. (duals of course)

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:00:36 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Frame-Off

Well, you can see what I did at:
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/69_large/Swap1.jpg 
We removed all the connecting hardware and then jacked the body up
enough to get a 4"x4" under the body at the top of the curve that goes
over the axle.  Then we jacked up the front of the body and propped the
4"x4" up on saw horses.  Then we went back and jacked the rear 4"x4" up
enough to put saw horses under it.

I'm not saying this is the best way, I think the General's may be
better, it's certainly cooler :)

I would never put anything heavy on cinderblocks, they are not very
strong.  Railroad ties would probably be very good.

Dave Cullen wrote:
> 
> Always been curious about this part of restoration:
> 
> <snip>
> >
> >3.  Lift body off chassis
> >
> 
> Ummm....how does one go about that? Four big dudes grab & lift? A sky hook?
> 
> Where do you put a car body once it's off.. on cinderblocks? Railroad ties?
> 
> drc
- -- 

Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:07:48 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

The molding along the bottom edge of the trunk is real hard to find.  Keep 
looking
till you find someone to repair it.  Try the ads in Hemmings.  You'll look a 
long
time before you find another.  Wayne Schwartz

COUPEKING@aol.com wrote:

> ??
> None of the '69 442's I've ever seen had trunk moldings. Now '69 Supremes 
did,
> and '68 442's did, but not any '69 442's.
> Peter
> coupeking
> '69 CS
> ''69 442 rag
> '68 442
> '67 CS rag
> '66 442 eag
> '66 442 L69
> (roll call?..)

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:16:25 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: Re: TIME OUT

I meant to add a note with this message.  I'm unsubscribing for now.  The 
traffic on
this site has just gotten to be too much. Just too many members and too many
messages.....especially with all the "role calls".  I restored by 69 442 with 
lots of
good help from members.  Thanks Guys.

Wayne Schwartz
69 442 convertible

Wane Schwartz wrote:

> The molding along the bottom edge of the trunk is real hard to find.  Keep 
looking
> till you find someone to repair it.  Try the ads in Hemmings.  You'll look a 
long
> time before you find another.  Wayne Schwartz
>
> COUPEKING@aol.com wrote:
>
> > ??
> > None of the '69 442's I've ever seen had trunk moldings. Now '69 Supremes 
did,
> > and '68 442's did, but not any '69 442's.
> > Peter
> > coupeking
> > '69 CS
> > ''69 442 rag
> > '68 442
> > '67 CS rag
> > '66 442 eag
> > '66 442 L69
> > (roll call?..)

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:29:01 -0600
From: "Greg" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: wheel backspacing

I was looking at American Racing's Baja aluminum wheels in 16x8 possibly for
my '71 cutlass.  I noticed the backspacing is 4.5".  If I remember right
isn't that what the 14x7 rally wheels are?  If I go with an inch wider
wheel, is that the correct backspacing I'll need?

I can the wheels for $105 each, and they don't look to bad either...

- -greg

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:38:42 EST
From: Dshack4@aol.com
Subject: How to take a frame off the body???

List

Is it hard (once you have the doors, hood, fenders, etc) to get the body off
of the frame??  I know that is the best way to restore a vehicle, but I may
not be able to afford that right now.  The car is in condition two, high three
at the very worst.  What is another way I can go about restoring the vehicle
without taking it off the frame.  I figured that if I removed the main body
components that it wouldn't be too expensive, and I could do one at a time.

Need your input!

P.S.  Thanks to all who have responded to all my questions on production
numbers and resto tips for this 71 W-30.

David

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:03:37 -0500
From: "Michael A. Evans" <evans1@net-link.net>
Subject: Roll Call

Squarely falling under the heading of better late than never:

Mike Evans
General Manager, Peterson Spring-Three Rivers Division
Age 36

1976 Cutlass S 462 Tricarb
1996 Taurus SHO

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:22:05 +0300
From: john schiffman <joschiff@flash.net>
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

My '69 442 coupe trunk lid has that part on and the double line pin
strip above that piece.  Screws on from inside trunk.  Good luck.



John Schiffman
Arlington TX

P.S. Will we see you at the summer nationals in Irving Texas?

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:40:07 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1969 442 Trunk Molding

   Would love to attend the OCA nationals but the work schedule and the
distance won't allow it,
.   Anyone else have an idea on how to repair the trunk molding or someone to
do it for me.
          Rich Grega
           Moscow, Pa.

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:47:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: '37 Olds Owner (fwd)

Received this personally... contact Daygo4Red@aol.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:37:05 EST
From: Daygo4Red@aol.com
To: ab348@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: '37 Olds Owner

I am the owner of a '37 Oldsmobile business coupe and in search of parts.  I
was wondering if your website could be helpful to me.  Or do you know of any
internet websites that could help me find parts.  Thanks for your
assistance..........Denis


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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:58:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 550? was: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

This bounced, but is worthy of note. 

Some of us (like me) have less than totally fond memories of Cliff Feiler,
a.k.a. the Wiz, but he did make things lively. Also, don't forget his
foil, Mike Frederick, along with Andy Green, Bob Handren, and Bill Culp. 
Lots of good memories. 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: 550? was: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

In a message dated 99-02-21 14:37:34 EST, you write:

> To date I've only logged 201 unique Olds List member responses. A far cry
>  from the near 550 we have registered with the list.

There are only some 336 that subscribe to the  real time list.

At least one of those is also on the digest, but no names (Joe P.) will be
mentioned.

Karl thinks members have some right to anonymity, but will mention some not
heard from.

Esko and Anelli Illola (sp?) are apparently still on the digest and deserve
honorable mention, in bygone days a listmember aided them in aquiring a
replacement 394 for their 1964 Dynamic 88.

They live in Finland. (Now ~that~ makes the above noteworthy!)

Furthermore this is a good time for karl to ask for a moment of silence for
"the Wiz".
Karl did not know him by name during the time that Karl and he subscribed to
the list, but for a great while the Wiz was a great source of Olds wisdom that
set the overall atmosphere for the list where Karl is concerned. The "Wiz"
unsubscribed for a vacation during which there apparently was an accident,
subsequent Emailings were less cohererent than normal and ceased shortly
thereafter (partialy based on word-of-mouth from G. B.)

Also deserving mention is Jeff Easton, who has been compiling the archives
from the Oldsmobile digests.

Have not really been paying that much attention, but wish to also give
"noteworthy" status to Clayton Peirce, R.C. Hellebuck (sp?), David Brown, Drew
Senko, Dr. Barry (who did make roll call but bears mentioning as well as ..)
Jim Chermac, Chris Brown Witt (the Rocket Scientist, and not a current
susscriber), Tom Stoner, Tom Lentz, and many onther voices that have become
silent though they "lurk" on the digest.

Yes, Karl fails to mention many on the digest who have been mainstays on the
Oldsmobile "list".

Wish to make special mention of the recent notables; Ken Snyder, Greg Rollins,
Tom Smith, and Lou Biggs, among many, many others.

The last is as great a source of non-Olds-related as Olds-related material,
but then, so was the "Wiz".

In fond memory.

Karl Aune

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:59:32 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

In a message dated 2/21/99 3:48:16 PM Central Standard Time,
costanzo@netcarrier.com writes:

> You have 13 Oldsmobiles.  That kicks ass.  Got a daughter who would come
>  with a dowery?

Hey, me too!  Throw in a late 70s Olds and I'll take the daughter off your
hands!


- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:56:41 -0500
From: "William Pritchett" <wjpritchett@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Roll Call

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Process Team Leader, Frame Relay - AT&T
Whitehouse Station, NJ

1950 Olds 4 door sedan
1956 Olds=20
1961 98 Sport Sedan

also, 1957, 68, 72 Chevrolets
1954 MG TF



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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:15:20 EST
From: Oldsmobeav@aol.com
Subject: Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

Steve Potter
Portland, oregon
37 bus coupe
65f85 deluxe transitioning from v6 to 400/t400 

both in primer
Insurance Investigator
A novice just looking to learn as much as I can.

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:07:44 EST
From: DKlauber@aol.com
Subject: Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

OK...OK
David Klauber
Physical Therapist
Phoenix, AZ.
OCA# 30416
70 442 W-30 conv
94 Saab 900SE
95 Saab 900SE
waiting on 99 Honda Odyssey

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:01:51 -0500
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Kurt Shubert, Sales Manager, Alcon Industries, Inc.
Rose Shubert, Data Collector, Preventative Maintenance Program, Ford Motor
Company

Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com   
Centennial Feature at http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:22:01 EST
From: RNenno@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

OK, better late than never:

Rob Nenno
Tarpon Springs, FL
Owner - pest control company

1970 Cutlass Supreme Convertible (red/white)

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:38:02 -0500
From: "W-MACHINES" <wmachine@en.com>
Subject: Re: W-30 Production Totals(65 "442"code)

4V for '65 (like 5V for '66) signify 442 body trim.  Remember, this is a
body code plate and only have codes that pertain to body differences.
BTW, these particular codes are exclusive to Lansing built cars.  442s were
build in other plants that use other codes.


Kurt & Rose   wmachine@en.com   
Centennial Feature at http://www.en.com/users/wmachine/wm.html
'65 Jetstar 1 4-speed                   '70 Toronado GT W-34 4-sale
'66 442 Sport Coupe 4-speed       '92 Achieva SCX W-41
'66 442 F-85 Deluxe factory L-69  '90 Trofeo

- ----------
> From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: W-30 Production Totals(65 "442"code)
> Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 9:53 AM
> 
> I dont know about the VIN or Data plate info to verify if its a
W30(Lansing)
> and thats it.
> But for the 65 442 guys I know a way to tell if they are real by the Data
> Plate........... are you ready...there is a "4V" on the data plata
signifying
> the side scoop for the 442 emblem...I have found so many fake ones out
there
> that way...everyone thinks you can tell just by the frames being
different .
> Anyone can also add swaybars and correct grilles etc....Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:19:53 -0600
From: Albert Meyer <Olds@AustinTX.net>
Subject: Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

Albert Meyer
Network Administrator - Austin Internet

68 98 Convertible - half restored.
67 Plymouth Belvedere - was done restoring it when someone ran a red light
and totalled it for me - now it gets us around while the Olds is being
worked on. Ugly but still runs (knock on wood).
'68 98 Convertible 455 - Still looking for a parts car
Austin, Texas mailto:Olds@AustinTX.net

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:29:56 EST
From: Jetaway4sp@aol.com
Subject: Roll Call

Lurking on the list for 2 years, which is a lot of deleting!

Randy Ruark, 44
Owner/Operator-  Chain (3) of Music & Movie Stores since 1981
Edmond (Okla City), Oklahoma
Married, with 5 year old Tonka fan

1957 Olds 88 Golden Rocket Holiday Coupe J/2, since 1975
		Will be at Nationals in Dallas
1949 Ford F-1 Pickup
1992 Lexus SC400
1993 Range Rover (for sale)

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:56:57 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: (65 and 66 "442"code)

Its ashame the other plants didnt use that code for the 65 and 66, how come
64s didnt use that code if its a code for 442 trim and not just a code for the
side scoop markings that 66 and 65 442s came with. This stuff is so much
fun...how ya doing Kurt!  Cant wait to see that 65 Jetstar in Jersey 2000.
         Talk to ya later...Hot Rod Harry 
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">1973 Olds Cutlass 455
4speed</A> 

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:38:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: 72 Cutlass Parts Needed.

Looking for the following.  Let me know if you
can help.  Email privately with your best price.

1972 AM/FM Stereo Radio
8-Track Player- Saddle Color a bonus, but not
necessary.  Prefer working unit.

Need a piece of ductwork for upper middle vent
on Air Cond. car.  This is the piece that screws to the dash right
behind to vent assembly.  If
I am correct, the part number 404734 should
be printed on it.  Got the part number from the
assembly manual...

Please Please Please let me know if you
have these for sale.  I have to remove the dash
this spring either way, and it would sure help to
have all the parts ready to go....

Thanks
Kevin D. Wood
Hartford, WI
Dr-Olds@webtv.net

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:13:18 EST
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: Last Call for "Roll Call"!

'78 Olds cutlass- olds 355, 2004r, 3.73s
'67 Olds 442- blue hardtop showcar.  original interior, mechanicals
'67 Olds 442- yellow convertible showcar.  455, 2004r, saffron yellow/saffron
yellow
'97 Olds LSS- white w/ leather
jeremy
BIGJERMES@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:29:40 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: 72 Cutlass Parts Needed.

I have an air duct with part no.399408...I think its for a 69 w/ac.....I dont
know if it will work...its the big piece that goes to the heater.
                        Hot Rod Harry 
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">1973 Olds Cutlass 455
4speed</A> 

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:28:23 EST
From: Jetaway4sp@aol.com
Subject: Hot Rod Power Club

I feel like such a lucky guy. A couple of days ago I received some special
mail inviting me to become a founding member of the new HOT ROD Power Club. I
am so excited, that I just had to share this moment with my friends. For your
reading pleasure the following is a copy of my special invitation. Underlining
is theirs.

Dear Founding Member Nominee,
	Today, you have a position that others can only envy, because Founding 
Member
rank is by invitation only.
	From today onward, you will stand out among enthusiasts as someone 
special.
	Your rank as a Founding Member of the Hot Rod Power Club singles you 
out for
respect and recognition.
	As the club grows in the future, your pioneering status will become 
more
admired. Can you imagine what it will be like to have been a founding member
of the NHRA, IHRA or Nascar?
	You will have a future filled with special buying privileges, distinct
advantages, and major personal benefits.
	But don't delay...we can only hold you guaranteed spot for 14 days. 
After
that, we will have to pass your opportunity on to the next nominee.
	Welcome, and congratulations!
											
Very truly yours,
											
Gary Duncan
											
Executive Director


Note: Oh yeah, and the dues are only $ 29.95 a year. 

Has anyone else on the list been nominated for such an enviable position?

PS: My 5 year old did like the free stickers enclosed, until he figured out
they wouldn't stick to his Cool Tools toolbox.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:33:33 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: 72 Cutlass Parts Needed

 I know now thats not the part you need..if you do I have it ..sorry
early morning mind not working...Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:35:56 EST
From: Jetaway4sp@aol.com
Subject: My Classic Car Episode

 Did anyone else catch this weekend's episode of My Classic Car on TNN?

See the ORIGINAL 72 Firebird?  Everything was 'original' ad nauseum !  Storage
queen deluxe! What's the use of owning a muscle car if you don't drive it?
This car still had the original shocks and tires! 

Geez!  I thought the guy was going to say it had the original crankcase oil
!!! 

Randy in Oklahoma
57 88 J/2

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:39:01 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

In a message dated 2/21/99 9:34:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Jetaway4sp@aol.com writes:

<< I feel like such a lucky guy. A couple of days ago I received some special
 mail inviting me to become a founding member of the new HOT ROD Power Club. I
 am so excited, that I just had to share this moment with my friends. For your
 reading pleasure the following is a copy of my special invitation.
Underlining
 is theirs.
 
 Dear Founding Member Nominee,
 	Today, you have a position that others can only envy, because Founding
Member
 rank is by invitation only.
 	From today onward, you will stand out among enthusiasts as someone 
special.
 	Your rank as a Founding Member of the Hot Rod Power Club singles you 
out for
 respect and recognition.
 	As the club grows in the future, your pioneering status will become 
more
 admired. Can you imagine what it will be like to have been a founding member
 of the NHRA, IHRA or Nascar?
 	You will have a future filled with special buying privileges, distinct
 advantages, and major personal benefits.
 	But don't delay...we can only hold you guaranteed spot for 14 days. 
After
 that, we will have to pass your opportunity on to the next nominee.
 	Welcome, and congratulations!
 											
Very truly yours,
 											
Gary Duncan
 											
Executive Director
 
 
 Note: Oh yeah, and the dues are only $ 29.95 a year. 
 
 Has anyone else on the list been nominated for such an enviable position?
 
 PS: My 5 year old did like the free stickers enclosed, until he figured out
 they wouldn't stick to his Cool Tools toolbox. >>

       Yeah, got that too. Wonder where they got my name from? I only get two
auto mags. Must be one of them. I'm gonna try it out I think. I have a feeling
I'm not going to be testing 4 brand new tires, but hey, who knows until you
try? Dorian

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:40:44 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

yep, I have been elected for that club and for the Motor Trend one too...WOW!
I must be really special to get two. The same wonderful price also...LOL   Hot
Rod Harry

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:44:48 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: My Classic Car Episode

Hey now!..easy goin there.....My car has only 8,900 orig miles and everything
is orig. that came on the car 
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">1973 Olds Cutlass 455
4speed</A> . I do agree though that Musclcars should be driven as they were
intended to be. But every once in awhile there are exeptions. That why there
are other musclecars out there you can drive that have more miles on them. It
would be ashame to just start driving the real low mileage ones after all
those years of the orig. owner trying to take care of the car,..Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:50:40 -0600 (CST)
From: senator@mail.chorus.net
Subject: Re: Roll Call

All right, I am a 17 year old hotel worker (future bartender, then
mechanical engineer, hopefully desiging cars).

1978 Cutlass Supreme (350cid, TH-350, 3.43(?) Lim. Slip Diff.)

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:04:42 EST
From: Bbymks4@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Power Club

             So, if you're a founding member then.........How come you have to
pay
 dues?    Where do the dues go to?   To the founding, founding, founding,
founderer?
  and what do you get for that $29.95 other than the privlage of saying that
you were
  one of the first to join the "Hot rod power club" of which there are
probably 
  hundreds of hot rod clubs across the country.....(grumble grumble
grumble....)
  I just must be upset because I wasn't asked to become a member......(sniff)
 Just as well, because I don't have a hotrod.......All I have is a muscle
car.....
  Later from......Steve M.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:03:47 -0500
From: "Brian Lorway" <lorway@home.net>
Subject: Re: How to take a frame off the body???

I removed the body on my GN with four simplex jacks and some assorted
timbers. I raised it approx. 12" above the frame and then installed six
11/2" x 11" pipes where the body mounts to the frame. Got some threaded rod
and large flat washers and mounted the body tight to the frame with the
pipes between the two. This allows you to work on the frame and the bottom
of the car easily. It also allows you to transport the vehicle easily for
the trip to the media blasting facility. I never did have a need to
completely roll the frame clear of the body, I was able to paint the frame
and underside of the body without any difficulty. If you want to see some
pics of this method take a look here
http://www.rust.net/~blorway/itsasix.htm

Regards,
Brian

1970 4-4-2 W-30  4 speed
1971 4-4-2 W-30  convertible
1987 GN (WE-2)
OCA #028157
www.wmachines.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dshack4@aol.com To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 7:42 PM
Subject: How to take a frame off the body???
>Is it hard (once you have the doors, hood, fenders, etc) to get the body
off
>of the frame?

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