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oldsmobile-digest    Wednesday, February 17 1999    Volume 01 : Number 1784



Re: Roll Call
'57 Super 88 FS East (SF) Bay
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: Need help(want to be on G-body list)
Re: Nash Bridges
CCC Feedback Quadrajet -- fast idle
Re: Cutlass front end
Re: Rip off
Re: Rip off
Re: Ebay:is that an authentic "C" head?
Re: Roll Call
Re: 433?
Re: NOT a Ripoff!
Re: Brighter lights?
Re: Roll Call
I Hate to Do This, Folks...
Re: day dreaming
Re: BAD American Cars
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: Ebay:is that an authentic "C" head?
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: Brighter lights?
LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL CAR...
Re: Parts FS
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: Ebay:is that an authentic 
Re: Roll Call
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: Gas Mileage
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call/BRENT ARDO OUR NEW MENTOR!
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call/BRENT ARDO OUR NEW MENTOR!
Sorry list, i just got alittle pissed off
Re: interior swap
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: Roll Call
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: interior swap
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: interior swap
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: WANTED 1966 Cutlass
Re: WANTED 1966 Cutlass
Re: Brighter lights?
Re: Pushrods (non- Ch*tty or Sommerville) was: Roller Rockers.
Re: WANTED 1966 Cutlass
Re: Put me in traction.
Re :  Roll Call
MAIL LIST
Re: Seatbelt/shoulder harness
Got Crack?
Re: Got Crack?
Re: roll call
Re: Sorry list, i just got alittle pissed off
Re: Got Crack?
Re: Roll Call
Roll Call
Sorry
Re: Roll Call
Re: Sorry
re:  Roll call
Re: Roll Call
Re: Sorry
Re: BB Intake
Re: Gas Mileage
Re: Roll Call
Re: Sorry
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:05:30 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Tim Wurtz wrote:
> 
> Tim Wurtz
> Boise Idaho
> Own a Auto and Truck Salvage Yard in boise.
> 
> Olds Cars I Own
> Way to many to list

Tim, you're my hero, man.  I've only got 4 Cutlass types and 1 GS455. 
Always wished I had a salvage yard to play in instead of messing with
people's tax problems.  One of my friends owns the largest one in my
area.  Lots of fringe benefits as I see it.

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:50:45 PST
From: "Mike Sealey" <rocket98for69@hotmail.com>
Subject: '57 Super 88 FS East (SF) Bay

Found this for sale in the Contra Costa Times, which mainly covers burbs 
about 30-40 miles east of San Francisco:

Oldsmobile '57 Super 88, 2dr. Sedan, J2, nice, $4500.  Bruce 
(925)373-0382.

I know nothing about the car beyond what I (and now you) read here.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:14:59 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Hey Drew, I'm not THAT far away..........over here on the eastern side of KS,
where not everyone likes Bob Dole or Jayhawks.............!

Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas (not far from the new Kansas International Speedway, open
in 2001!)
Aircraft Mechanic
Owner of A/Q Wiring Service (and only employee), providing aircraft quality
electrical and electronic systems installation and repair for the local racing
community.
70 Cutlass Supreme SX
71 Cutlass 'S' stock car
72 Cutlass autocross racer project
77 Cutlass 442 stock car project
80 Starfire GT

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:21:09 EST
From: WMACHINES@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Mark Prince
Millwright at National Steel- Great Lakes Steel Mill
Detroit Michigan
31 years young
Two 72 442 W-30's with "X's" in the vin
94 Cutlass Supreme 4 dr SL
90 Quad 442
71 Cutlass Supreme
72 Cutlass S
70 SX
two 72 442's one small block one big block

cost 16 grand to restore the Saddle Bronze Olds  
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/WMACHINES/LINK2.html">W MACHINES 72 W30 LINK
</A> 
I pay 184.00 a year from Haggerty insurance to cover my car up to 25,000.

W MACHINES

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:23:00 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Need help(want to be on G-body list)

> Can anyone help me on specifics on how to be added to the G-body list.  I
> am a bit computer illiterate.  detailed help would be gretaly appreciated.
> 

Click here:

http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

Then scroll down about a screen or so.  On the left side you'll see a text 
box. 
Simple as that :)

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:27:40 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nash Bridges

Even Though I thin Cuda's are cool. THIS IS NOT A DODGE LIST.   If you 
cuss about chevy's SHUT up about DODGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:32:40 -0500
From: EJ <oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: CCC Feedback Quadrajet -- fast idle

Is the fast idle(cold) setting still basically choke and mechanical
settings on a feedback QJ ?  Or does the computer control the cold
engine speed thru the TPS or something ? 

Ever since I got my 85 Toro, there has been no fast idle when cold.
Tried tinkering with the choke adjustments, no luck.  Never had this
problem on a regular non-feedback QJ.

Input ?
TIA
EJ
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                               The "Fleet"
1979 Pontiac "Olds organ donor" Trans Am T-tops Rebuilt Olds 6.6L 403 
     4bbl-TH350 Performer Cam and Intake.....going into the Calais
     For Sale. 
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais T-Tops 5.0L 307 4bbl-TH350-2.14 gears K+N.....
     soon to be 6.6L 403 4bbl, and hopefully some better "rear" gears
1985 Olds Toronado 5.0L 307 4bbl-AOD(newly acquired Sept. 98). 
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0L 302 EFI HO-AOD-3.27 gears
     inner fender baffle removed-K+N.
1992 Ford F-250 Reg-Cab 4WD 7.5L 460 EFI-E4OD Auto-3.55 gears.
     3-inch converter-dual outlet flowmaster 3 chamber.
     Complete K+N(no more factory air-box)-ADS Super Chip-Spitfires-
     Accel Super Coil-Cap-Rotor & 8.8 wires.
1994 Toyota Camry Sedan 4-banger-(Wow we could have had a V6!)-"mili
     -liter"-AOD. K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!) 
     My SO's rider

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:29:20 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Cutlass front end

> Do you know of any web sites or person that could tell me if a flat front
> 86 or 87 cutlass front end would fit on my friend's 81 swoop nosed Cutlass.

Why, yes, as a matter of fact...  The 87-88 nose will bolt right on, as far as 
I
can tell, and I'm looking at an 87 nose that came off an 85 and is going on an
83...  Nose top and bottom stay together as a unit, fenders, hood, and bumper
can all swap.

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:30:37 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Cancel the check and move on!!! Shit do you not have something better to 
do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:33:48 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rip off

sORRY !!!!!! No mather what you think the post office is not that 
bad!!!!!  UPS maybe!!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:52:43 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Ebay:is that an authentic "C" head?

well it was on H/O, all big cars with 455s and toros I believe
- -----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Jacquillard <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Ebay:is that an authentic "C" head?


>I believe that the red was from the late 60's Toro's, anybody confirm?
>T.J.
>
>Kerry Kroger wrote:
>>
>> could be off a late 60s 455 they tended to have them and were red...KK
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: KarlAunan@aol.com <KarlAunan@aol.com>
>> To: Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 1:20 PM
>> Subject: Ebay:is that an authentic "C" head?
>>
>> >Single head,
>> >At first look, red color looks wrong, cannot positivly spot "C" in
picture
>> of
>> >head.
>> >
>> >Anyone?
>> >
>> >is this a "C" head?
>> >
>> >SOM
>> >
>> >&KA

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:25:22 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

In the signature, baby...but I don't have any money, so I can't answer that
question...
- -------------------------------------------------------------
 Brian Ammons		 Universal Internet # (ICQ) - 3585737
 MIS Major - UT Austin	 b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu
 2903 Breeze Terrace	 http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ammons/
 Austin, TX 78722	Home :	(512) 236-8088 (Austin)
 1984 Oldsmobile		(713) 776-2110 (Houston)
	Delta 88	Pager:	(512) 483-8056
 	  4-door		(713) 318-5938	
- -------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:37:09 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 433?

Yea 90% of the people out there know nothing about engines.  They pay 
some loser $300 buck and they think they have the best engine in the 
world!!!!!!


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:54:18 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: NOT a Ripoff!

can also vouch for a fellow by the name of roger green in OK I think he was
timely and low priced good guy
- -----Original Message-----
From: Thomas P. Smith <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 6:42 PM
Subject: NOT a Ripoff!


>With all the discussions lately about folks getting ripped off, I
>figured I'd change the tone and comment on  good experiences I've had
>with long distance purchasing.  I bought an HEI distributor off the
>442.com website (all the junkyards in the area were too pricey).  The
>man's name was Randy Banks in Cresco, IA and he took care of me.  It was
>all by e-mail, which can be risky, but the item was in fine shape, just
>as he described, and he was VERY quick about shipping.
>
>A few months earlier, I bought a Q-jet from a Don Cohen in Brockton,
>Massachusetts, again through 442.com, and this was equally pleasant.
>He's a sweet old gent who just got a computer and even asked me e-mail
>questions when I called him on the phone. He even extended his own money
>back guarantee if I didn't like the carb.  Well, that wasn't necessary,
>as I was quite pleased.  BTW, he's got more Olds parts.
>
>I know there are crooks out there, but, gratefully, they're not all like
>that.
>
>--
>Thomas P. Smith
>1971 Cutlass S 350
>smithtp@ix.netcom.com
>
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:39:19 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Brighter lights?

>Who out there in Olds Land has some info on making your light brighter.


Reag the new car craft!!!!  If it works for head lights it will work for 
side markers!!!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:45:03 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

OldsRokkit@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Just curious...how many Oldsmobilers do we have here, where y'all from, and
> what do you do to pay the restoration/gas/insurance/tire bills?  

Well, I'll jump in here also.

Don Sowers
Nicholasville, Ky
Corporate president (and janitor) of Don E. Sowers & Associates Ltd. 
Unfortunately (for me) I am in the tax and accounting field and have
been for the past 28 years.
Oldest guy I've seen so far at 50, but a good memory of what things were
like in the 60s and 70s and trying to hold back the aging process.
Genuine car nut that drives my wife crazy with my 17 cars currently, 4
of which are Oldsmobiles, 1 GS455, 5 Lincolns, 3 Thunderbirds, 1
Firebird, 2 RX7's and a BMW. 

Olds selection-				and a stepchild-
69 S convertible 4spd			1971 GS455 convertible
70 Supreme convertible
72 Hurst w/sunroof
72 S (currently for sale)

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:41:46 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: I Hate to Do This, Folks...

Due to the tremendous pressure the Snyder house(s) is (are) under, I'm going
to have to sign off for a while.  I feel like I'm leaving home doing this, but
the strain of working 8 plus hours a day and then 8 more on two different
houses at the same time (trying to get one ready to sell, the other ready to
move in to) then poking my nose up to the old 'puter for an hour or two is
beginning to show.  Grace is now on hold until I get through closing on the
new house and sell this one, so opening night at Lakeside Speedway will be
tough for me -- I like to be ready when the season starts and race every night
I can.

I'm going to miss SOM letting Karl use the computer, the ongoing Vega razzing,
the new acquisitions list members pick up, the great technical info I keep and
compile for future reference, and even the side tracks list threads get off on
to -- some of them really get me to cracking up just when I need it the most.
But just like Arnold, "I'll Be Back!"

Stop by OldsLink when you can, and drop me a note if there's anything I can do
to help any of you out.  This whole thing should be winding down by the end of
March, so hopefully by then I can return to this great list.

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:40:22 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: day dreaming

>I had a vision of a Ch*vy S-10, the base junk motor had been removed, a =
>455 and 4L80 transmission had been put in it's place. 4.56 gears were =
>installed in the rear end. The grill and all the ch*vy identification =
>had been removed. In there place was the grill from an Olds SUV =
>(whatever they call that thing) which is just a S-10 based Olds, and the =
>new Olds emblems in place of the bow ties. The Ultimate parts hauler. A =

Everett Horton has one of these as his parts-chaser; done real clean, with
the front grille, the badges, SSIII's with big Delta caps, even the plastic
side-cladding. He worked at an Olds dealer, so he got all the parts over the
counter for the conversion. It's the stock V-6, though, not an Olds V-8.
Still the same, very neat truck, and very appropriate for the man!
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:40:14 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: BAD American Cars

>> >Try hitting a curb at speed with any front wheel drive!  A RWD would
>> >have, at most, a bent rim, a FWD will be up to, or in, the thousands.
 [snip]
>nailed for something like $400.  Both of them said that they though it was
>excessive and one guy (the more expensive one) thought he should have had no
>damage.  His wife had just run off of the road when she hit ice.

I do have to (well, I don't have to, but I will anyway...) relate the story
of the fate of the car I learned to drive on, a 1977 Vista Cruiser. My mom
was driving home from the store when she hit some black ice that caused the
car to spin and hit a curb. She must have been moving pretty good, because
it caused the left-front wheel to get pushed back, bending the frame and
driver's-side floorpan so bad that the gas-pedal pointed straight at the
passenger! It was 8-years old at the time, so they totalled it...<sniff>

Oh, and mom walked away without so much as a bruise.

So you can wreck a rear-wheel drive car, even an Olds, by hitting a curb.
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:40:30 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Bob Barry
Providence, Rhode Island
Assistant Professor of Theology, Providence College

1970 Cutlass Supreme SX (w/'68 Toro 455)
1969 Toronado (original 455)
1978 Buick Electra (with built Olds 403)
and a Jeep, all available for viewing at the site below:
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:42:45 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

In a message dated 2/16/99 11:17:00 PM Central Standard Time,
KS7RACING@aol.com writes:

> Hey Drew, I'm not THAT far away..........over here on the eastern side of
KS,
>  where not everyone likes Bob Dole or Jayhawks.............!

Not everyone likes KU over here, either.  At work, it's about 1/2 KU, 1/4 K-
State, and 1/4 "who cares?"

- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:40:27 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Ebay:is that an authentic "C" head?

>I believe that the red was from the late 60's Toro's, anybody confirm?
 [snip]
>> could be off a late 60s 455 they tended to have them and were red...KK
 [snip]
>> >At first look, red color looks wrong, cannot positivly spot "C" in 

No, all early Toro motors were a metallic blue. The big-car (and Hurst/Olds)
motors were red until 1970 or so.
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:45:17 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

Just because you are a stupid jealous loser doesn't mean the rest of us 
are.  You should see a car better than yours and think " I can do 
better!!!"  Being jealous  is a waste of time, like 95% of your 
posts!!!!!


>
>I hate any car better than mine, i just do, i hate every car pretty 
much then,
>lol, you'd understand if you've seen my web page, lol
>Kelly erickson


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:46:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Myassachafin@webtv.net (A Sea)
Subject: Re: Brighter lights?

bosch sells replacement lights for what you r looking for i had the same
problem, what they sell is a lens which has a replacible bulb its a h4
bulb w/ both hi &low beam it comes w/ a standard watt bulb but you can
get a higher wattage bulb i have an 84 and what a diffrence from the
org. lights 

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:39:23 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL CAR...

Hi kids...

I'm wondering if anyone on the list has ever seen the following automobile
- - last report was that it was just outside Athens, Georgia:

1969 Olds 442 Convertible
Numbers Matching
Auto w/ console
Red exterior
Red Ralleye IIs
Red interior
VIN # 344679M10000004 (Pretty cool number, right? Probably the first
convertible off the line that year...but did I put too many zeroes in there?)

Anyone?  Anyone?  Class, Anyone?
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 Austin, TX 78722	Home :	(512) 236-8088 (Austin)
 1984 Oldsmobile		(713) 776-2110 (Houston)
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:50:39 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Parts FS

Ever heard of  A WIND SHIELD Antenna!!!!  







 Very Straight, hole where the antenna was, easily filled. 
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:52:10 -0500
From: "C Thomas" <cthomas@stny.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

Lighten up and Stop Being such an @SSHOLE to every one
LOL -Laugh out Loud .  Do Me a Favor Go Stick Your Head In a Microwave.
- -----Original Message-----
From: jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars


>
>Just because you are a stupid jealous loser doesn't mean the rest of us 
>are.  You should see a car better than yours and think " I can do 
>better!!!"  Being jealous  is a waste of time, like 95% of your 
>posts!!!!!
>
>
>>
>>I hate any car better than mine, i just do, i hate every car pretty 
>much then,
>>lol, you'd understand if you've seen my web page, lol
>>Kelly erickson
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:52:19 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ebay:is that an authentic 

i BELIEVE RED WAS 68-69!!  nOT SURE THOUGH!!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:54:23 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

OOOOPPPPPSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!   Sorry this is why you know nothing!!!  In a 
few years you will learn from you mistakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!



>Kelly Erickson
>Student At Seattle Academy of Arts and Sciences (SAAS) (its a 
highschool)


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:54:43 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

In a message dated 2/16/99 11:47:09 PM Central Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

> Just because you are a stupid jealous loser doesn't mean the rest of us 
>  are.

Aw, geez...here we go again.  *sigh*


- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:56:31 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

In a message dated 2/16/99 9:47:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

<< 
 Just because you are a stupid jealous loser doesn't mean the rest of us 
 are.  You should see a car better than yours and think " I can do 
 better!!!"  Being jealous  is a waste of time, like 95% of your 
 posts!!!!!
  >>


Constructive critisism is appreciated, I'm sure, by everyone on the list.
Being a total prick isn't. I've read many of your posts tonight and not one of
them had anything decent or intelligent to say. In my opinion this list would
be a happier place if you weren't here. Just my opinion. 

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:56:50 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

In a message dated 2/16/99 8:27:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu writes:

<< The Party Barge & I just returned from New Orleans, and I would like to
 know...WHY did I get only 12 miles to the gallon?  We're talking highway
 speeds, and we didn't have bricks in the trunk or anything...
 
 More info - the Check Engine light comes on after 10 minutes of solid
 highway driving, and the computer returns Error Code 44, which translates
 into "Lean Exhaust Indication"...this would not have a negative impact on
 fuel economy, would it?
 
 Other than the light, the car runs great at all speeds, and at idle...my
 first Delta got 12 in the city, this one seems to get it on the highway
too...
 
 1984 Olds Delta 88 4-door, 155,xxx miles on the original, no rebuild 307,
 obviously non-original TH-350, stock (I certainly assume) rear end.  New
 plugs, wires, VALVE COVER GASKETS (HI IGOR!!)...generally in pretty good
 shape, except for the miles...
 
 Oh, a guy at Tune-Up Masters told me that the Quadrajet had a "worn
 throttle shaft" - but I thought that this would only affect idle and low
 speeds...
 
 So, what's the story? >>

       Well, the worn primary throttle shaft can/will cause erratic idle
speeds, but should not afffect mileage, as you would notice greatly increased
idle speed : ) There isn't much else that will affect, I guess there would be
some vacuum leak there, but the gap is very small. If the transmission was
changed, any chance the rear gears were too? City mileage would likely stay
the same, with worse freeway mileage. 
	Supposedly running lean causes the engine to run hotter, (can anyone 
explain
how less fuel=more heat?) I guess heat could make a difference, although that
would be quite an extreme I think. Only other thing that I can think of that
could affect mileage would be the secondaries staying open, or being open too
early (IE modified/bent secondary linkage) Hows acceleration compared to like
cars you have driven?
   															
Dorian

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:58:07 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Richard Sprague
Tacoma, Washington

Cutlass442@AOL.Com

1967 "Oldsmobuick" Cutlass

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:57:46 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call/BRENT ARDO OUR NEW MENTOR!

Well may be you are not that bad?? hahahaha  Long walk on the beach?  
Hoping to pick up Fags???  Anywat at least you like Olds.  Ever though 
you think you know everything.  You know nothing!!  It will come latter.  
Give it a chance!!!



>Kelly Erickson
>Slave at Seattle Academy of Arts and Sciences, 15 years old (march), 
enjoys
>Oldsmobiles, '85 Trans Am's with Chevy 305's with 278,000miles onthem 
(its a
>joke guys), and long walks on the beach ;). I love my Cutlass, and hate 
my
>Super 88. Long live anything with a AMERICAN OHV V-8 (Old's mainly 
though)
>1966 Cutlass
>1954 Super 88
>Gutlass66@aol.com
>ICQ# 29190247


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:01:34 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

Im totaly with you, you're hella lucky i deleted that email, AND guess what,
THAT was a joke, and you're a dumb SOB. Right now, in 9th grade, can probably
outsmart you, and no 2, my car isn't that bad, right now, thoes pics are OLD,
and I'm pretty much gunna kill you if  i see you

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:01:41 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

In a message dated 2/16/99 9:55:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

<< 
 OOOOPPPPPSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!   Sorry this is why you know nothing!!!  In a 
 few years you will learn from you mistakes!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>


Like I said in an earlier post. Nothing intelligent to say. Just because he's
in High School means he knows nothing????? Sounds to me like you need to go
back to school and learn something yourself. Didn't mommy ever teach you that
if you didn't have anything nice to say then don't say anything???

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:03:03 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call/BRENT ARDO OUR NEW MENTOR!

Dude, your a f*ckin' homo, its a JOKE, I make alot of JOKES, and the list
doesnt want you. I'm the youngest person on the list, and EVERYONE know's i
make jokes, and about the fag thing...I think your boyfriend needs a call
there you fudgepackin' POS

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:03:31 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Sorry list, i just got alittle pissed off

it wont happen again, as long as that homo don't say anymore stuff

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:04:44 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: interior swap

In a message dated 2/16/99 8:05:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Myassachafin@webtv.net writes:

<< I have an 84 cutlass w/ bench seats I am about to purchase buckets and a
 concole w/ shifter I never really did this kind of work, but dont get me
 wrong i know how to work on things, is it that difficult to install this
 stuff >>

	From what I have read, the 60/40 bench has exactly the same floor 
brackets as
a bucket seat car. The one piece bench will not. There are also brackets in
the console car that raises the shifter to the right level for the console,
that are welded to the transmission tunnel. I would say that these also need
to be retrieved from a console equipped car, as a non console car would not
need them, and they would be intrusive. Locating dimples for the welds/hole(s)
(for the shifter cable) are likely in the sheet metal already. To make the
setup look original, you will need the column sleeve from a non column shift
car. I have a feeling I am going to have to do this conversion when I find a
better frame/body than what my car has now, but so far, no luck finding a non
vinyl top car of the right year for the right 
price. 												
Dorian

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:06:37 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

Do me a favore and TOSS ME!!!!!!  If you don't know what that means 
"Lick my ass!!!!"""""


>Lighten up and Stop Being such an @SSHOLE to every one
>LOL -Laugh out Loud .  Do Me a Favor Go Stick Your Head In a Microwave.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 12:46 AM
>Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars
>
>
>>
>>Just because you are a stupid jealous loser doesn't mean the rest of 
us 
>>are.  You should see a car better than yours and think " I can do 
>>better!!!"  Being jealous  is a waste of time, like 95% of your 
>>posts!!!!!
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I hate any car better than mine, i just do, i hate every car pretty 
>>much then,
>>>lol, you'd understand if you've seen my web page, lol
>>>Kelly erickson
>>
>>
>>______________________________________________________
>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
>


______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:07:06 EST
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Joe Stackman
 Puyallup,Wa
 Owner/Machinst   Sumner Machine
 '68 442 , 69 442  (both post 4 speeds) other GM's 62 catalina , 98 Grand Prix
, 77 gmc 4x4
 KEY FACT: Married w/ 3 kids and avid kart racing family.....Paycheck? whats
that?

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:08:14 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

NO ONE LIKES YOU, GET THE HELL OUT OF A GOOD LIST

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:08:38 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

my bad, im sorry list, i just think this guy is a total nothing, and don't
deserve my time, or anyone elses

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:09:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Myassachafin@webtv.net (A Sea)
Subject: Re: interior swap

i have a one piece bench. is what you are saying is the buckets will not
bolt up

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:07:25 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

>Am I still here?  Filled the mailbox today and

No, *I* am here; you're over there...

And now for something completely different:

>From: "C Thomas" <cthomas@stny.lrun.com>
>Subject: Re: Roll Call
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

You just *know* that this isn't going to be any good...

>Chad Thomas 
>Upstate New York
>Currently in College
>I Drive a 1985 Cutlass 442 IROC-SS
>and A 69 Beetle 4x4 
 [snip]
>- ------=_NextPart_000_01D5_01BE5A08.2B630360
>Content-Type: image/jpeg;
>	name="Iroc-SS 2.jpg"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>Content-Disposition: attachment;
>	filename="Iroc-SS 2.jpg"
 [SSSSSSSNIP! And I mean, snip!]

So, Chad, was that a 500k JPG there? Sent to the list? Not a nice thing to
do here... :(

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:10:35 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

I guess you have not read any of his posts!!!!!





><< 
> OOOOPPPPPSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!   Sorry this is why you know nothing!!!  In 
a 
> few years you will learn from you mistakes!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>
>
>
>Like I said in an earlier post. Nothing intelligent to say. Just 
because he's
>in High School means he knows nothing????? Sounds to me like you need 
to go
>back to school and learn something yourself. Didn't mommy ever teach 
you that
>if you didn't have anything nice to say then don't say anything???
>


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:35:46 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Lisa Madsen, one of how many female Oldsmobilers?  Started at 17 yrs old &
still going at 39.  Support my hobby as an Office manager (aka adult baby
sitter), mother of five (kids) mother of four (Oldsmobiles) as follows:

1966 Toronado Deluxe
1967 Delta 88 Custom
1972 Vista Cruiser
1972 Cutlass Supreme Convertible



Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

1966 Toronado, 1967 Delta 88 Custom, 1972 Vista Cruiser, 1972 Cutlass
Supreme Convertible

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
http://exo.com/~jht/olds/banners/

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:13:29 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: interior swap

In a message dated 2/16/99 10:10:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Myassachafin@webtv.net writes:

<< 
 i have a one piece bench. is what you are saying is the buckets will not
 bolt up
  >>


If you are looking to put Bucket seats in place of a Bench seat Year One has
brackets for this swap. cost is about $25. Its a weld in bracket and your
buckets will bols in. I did it in my '67


Richard
Cutlass442@AOL.COM
1967 "Oldsmobuick" Cutlass

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:15:30 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

my posts asshole? my posts? excuse me, but it seems that i put all my money
and free time into oldsmobiles, and i think of everyone on the list as
friends, and i hope they think of me the strackame time, everyonce inwhile, i
stray off task ever so often, but everyone, or most everyone puts me back on,
and if you dont like it, get your scummy ass off the list, and thanks everyone
for puttin' up with me
Kelly Erickson
1966 Cutlass
1954 Super 88
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/Olds442z/

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:17:35 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

In a message dated 2/16/99 10:11:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

<< 
 I guess you have not read any of his posts!!!!! >>
 I've read all of them. Just as everyone else on the list. You're a smart @ss
and there isn't any need for it here. 

Please go here......   majordomo@chebucto.ns.ca  ........ and type
"Unsubscribe oldsmobile jasonshreve@hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:17:58 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

*thinks the same as me, sorry

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:21:16 -0800
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: WANTED 1966 Cutlass

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					Paul & Noelle
					'66 cutlass ( still for sale )
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:23:35 -0800
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: WANTED 1966 Cutlass

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Chad Thomas,

		I am a dope,  here is the address

murph2@prodigy.net

				Paul & Noelle

				'66 Cutlass
				
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:23:05 EST
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Brighter lights?

Hella    also offers a kit    It uses the new type  bulbs in an old style
headlight assembly.  I havent  tried them though  just saw them.  Sylvania
also offers a xenon halogen bright light   again  havent tried them 

Joe

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:13:59 -0800
From: mitzm@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Pushrods (non- Ch*tty or Sommerville) was: Roller Rockers.

Joe,  I think you neglected to mention that push rods are actually loaded
in almost purely axial loading and no bending.  The bending stiffness does
enter into the axial compression load capability in that it controls
buckling.  I'd venture to guess that pushrod tubes are sized for minimum
weight limited by column buckling.  If anbody has dimensions for a push
rod, length, OD, ID, material; I'll calc it out.

Interesting small world sidenote:  In about 1986, I was a newly graduated
mechanical engineer at Hughes Aircraft company in El Segundo.  When I
mentioned to someone that I drove a 70 Cutlass convertible, they said I
ought to talk to Joe Padavano, a project engineer on the same floor of the
same building, "He's got a whole fleet of em...".  I talked with Joe
briefly but he seemed to lose interest when  he found out I only had a 350!
Shortly thereafter I transfered to another area and didn't here from him
again until a couple of years ago when he shows up on this mailing list .

Hans Naepflin
(also a "Rocket Scientist")
___________

Pushrods are hollow tubes to reduce the reciprocating weight of the
valvetrain.  One of the limiting factors in how high you can rev the motor
before valve float is the weight (and therefore inertia) in the valvtrain.

The one thing you need to understand is that strenght and stiffness are two
very different things.  Strength is the ability of a material to resist
failure through fracture or shear and (for a given material) is primarily a
function of cross sectional area.  Stiffness is the ability of an item to
resist bending loads and again, for a given material, is a function of not
only cross section area but also cross section shape.  The further away
from the center that the material is placed, the stiffer the item is.
That's why (for the same cross sectional area) an "I" beam is stiffer in
bending than a solid bar, though both would have the same strength.

The stiffness of a cylindrical column (as in, a pushrod) increases in
proportion to diameter to the fourth power, but weight only goes up with
diameter squared.  The result is that virtually all of the stiffness of the
pushrod comes from the material at the outside, so it only makes sense to
remove the material in the center.  Since strength, (both tensile and
compressive), only goes with the cross sectional area, you can see that a
solid pushrod with the same strength as a tubular one will have
significanly less diameter and thus less stiffness.  Conversely a solid
pushrod with the same bending stiffness as a tubular one will weigh
significantly more.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

Mitzm@mail.earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:25:27 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: WANTED 1966 Cutlass

In a message dated 2/16/99 10:22:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
MURPH2@prodigy.net writes:

<< 
 		I am a dope,  here is the address
 
 murph2@prodigy.net
 
 				Paul & Noelle
 
 				'66 Cutlass
 				 >>


thats ok MURPH. the address is up top in the header......lol

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:25:49 EST
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Put me in traction.

If  you dont want to modify the car  try a set of Hop Stop upper control arm
kits  available from Edelbrock.  THese use to be in the H/O racing catalog as
hop stop bars.  Edelbrock also offers a replacement lower control arm but I
honestly dont know if they change the geometry or not

Joe

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:28:57 -0800
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re :  Roll Call

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Paul Harsany
Bremerton,  Wa.
Unemployed

82 Cutlass Supreme Brougham loaded,  blew motor sold it for 50 bucks ( dumb
!ss )
66 Cutlass 2 dr.  Holiday Coupe

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:27:28 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: MAIL LIST

Boy , by the sound of it im glad i missed that one. heheh.
"ignorance is bliss"


Erik Gertsen   
Rusty Delta 88 "Moby"

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:43:46 -0800
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: Seatbelt/shoulder harness

Mike Bloomer wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> This was a topic of conversation a while back and the
> popular consensus was that the simplest way to achieve
> this without significantly altering your car would be to use
> late model seats that incorporate the seat belt into the seat.

Which reminds me, I though I saw some in a buick a couple of weeks
ago....  A few days ago I'm pretty sure I saw some in a new(98) Buick
Riviera. (Passed it in a parking lot)  I also saw them in a 4-door...A
park avenue I think.

> If I remember correctly you could mount the retractors in the
> space between the headliner and the roof, though it would
> be tight.

I've though of getting the newer type that keeps the belt all in one
retractor.  It'd be a lot cleaner, it'd just be in the way of the rear
seat passengers.  For now I can live with the tight shoulder belt, I
just slide sideways out of it if I need to reach something.  

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme 
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:41:04 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Got Crack?

Paging  Mr.Shreve.


Erik Gertsen
P.S. I hear theres a Citroen 2CV for sale, you may want to buy that so that
no one from the olds list can ever identify you.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:44:04 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Got Crack?

Thanks guys for backin' me up, And I'm sorry to the whole list for  having to
put up with me, you guys are GREAT!

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:45:36 -0600
From: Joe Novak <cujmn4@pen.eiu.edu>
Subject: Re: roll call

Uh Oh,
  Looks like I just wandered into one of those AOL chat rooms where one
guy comes in just to B!TCH & P!$$ everyone off.  I better get outta'
here quick!
- --
Joe Novak
1987 Olds Cutlass Salon
1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme Convertible
cujmn4@pen.eiu.edu
www.pen.eiu.edu/~cujmn4

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:47:58 EST
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sorry list, i just got alittle pissed off

OK  guys   you can  take this to private E-mails  now  this kinda thing really
dont need to be on the list.  right?

Joe Stackman

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:53:43 EST
From: Bbymks4@aol.com
Subject: Re: Got Crack?

                And what makes you think that you won't be in just as much
trouble
                as the other guy that started this thing? Most likely he's
going to get 
                tossed off  for swearing, as it is forbidden on this list.
Does that give 
                you the right to swear back? I don't think so, I think it
would have been 
                better to leave that one alone.        Just my
opinion......Steve M.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:59:46 -0800
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

CUTLASS442@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/16/99 10:11:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:
> 
> <<
>  I guess you have not read any of his posts!!!!! >>
>  I've read all of them. Just as everyone else on the list. You're a smart @ss
> and there isn't any need for it here.

I believe the correct term is dumb @ss.  If he's not he either needs to
sober up or quit letting the children post to the list.

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:06:31 -0600
From: <barbw@uswest.net>
Subject: Roll Call

Another female Oldsmobiler:

Barbara Wojtczak
Corporate Paralegal
Chandler, Arizona

No Children; One Oldsmobile:
'76 Cutlass Salon

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:05:36 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Sorry

Again, I'm sorry for swearing and all that....I'm a bad boy

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:07:06 -0800
From: "M. Lias" <mlias@thegrid.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Mike Lias
Loan Originator (Mortgage Company)
Huntington Park, CA (Los Angeles County)
Age: 25

'86 442 (Stock)

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:08:18 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sorry

and i wont do it again, ok?

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:18:23 -0600
From: Ike <tiger80@linknet.net>
Subject: re:  Roll call

Ike House
general dentist
Haughton, Lousiana (suburb of Shreveport)

Currently Olds-less but undergoing a year-long mid-life crisis to rectify
the situation.  Searching for a '76/'77 442, '72 H/O HT or SX for a daily
driver in driving distance.
Geaux Tigs!
Ike

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:07:37 -0600
From: <shang@connect.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Stephen Hoover 
Age: 24 
Dallas, Texas
1970 Cutlass Supreme 455;TH-2004R;R134A A/C
.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:15:34 EST
From: Bbymks4@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sorry

                   self control, it comes with age....

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:12:17 -0600
From: <shang@connect.net>
Subject: Re: BB Intake

I want to pickup the manifold from you if you can verify you have one.
Let me know.

Thanks

Stephen

GT5726@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/15/99 1:41:10 PM Central Standard Time, 
shang@connect.net
> writes:
> 
> << Anyone have a pre-72 (non EGR) intake for a BB they need to sell or get
>  rid of? I want to get my 455 going this weekend and everyone is out of
>  the Performer. Please respond privately. (shang@connect.net) Looking to
>  spend around $40 (+shipping) or less.
>   >>
> 
> Hey, we might have one around the shop...we are in DeSoto so you may just be
> able to drive down here and get one
> 
> Collyn Eastham
> 65 442
> 65 Cutlass
.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:25:01 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

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Hi Brian,

Sounds to me like it's time for a new oxygen sensor.  Check the air
filter too.  Mightaswell price a 455 swap.  Just ask Igor. :-)

Jeff Carter
blue442@webtv.net


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Hi kids...

The Party Barge & I just returned from New Orleans, and I would like to
know...WHY did I get only 12 miles to the gallon?  We're talking highway
speeds, and we didn't have bricks in the trunk or anything...

More info - the Check Engine light comes on after 10 minutes of solid
highway driving, and the computer returns Error Code 44, which translates
into "Lean Exhaust Indication"...this would not have a negative impact on
fuel economy, would it?

Other than the light, the car runs great at all speeds, and at idle...my
first Delta got 12 in the city, this one seems to get it on the highway too...

1984 Olds Delta 88 4-door, 155,xxx miles on the original, no rebuild 307,
obviously non-original TH-350, stock (I certainly assume) rear end.  New
plugs, wires, VALVE COVER GASKETS (HI IGOR!!)...generally in pretty good
shape, except for the miles...

Oh, a guy at Tune-Up Masters told me that the Quadrajet had a "worn
throttle shaft" - but I thought that this would only affect idle and low
speeds...

So, what's the story?
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:40:12 -0800
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Greg Pruett
Salem, VA

Occupation:  Professonal student

1972 Vista Cruiser:  "Yellow Submarine"  Daily driver, over 200 000
miles 350/2bbl TH2004R  Here's an old picture: 
http://home.talkcity.com/HotRodRd/greg28/

1967 Cutlass Supreme:  Rough project car, currently no name, pictures,
or engine/tranny worth mentioning. :)

1980 Cutlass Calais:  Project car, T-tops.  260/2bbl prone to
spontaneous combustion, has a future as a boat anchor.  Working title:
"Lazarus".  Will eventually recieve a more potent engine and become the
daily driver.

Other cars:
`81 Diesel Caprice:  Parts car, given to me by a neighbor, hidden in the
woods.  (Don't tell mom! :)
`77 Malibu 4-door:  No engine/tranny, for sale reeeeeeal cheap!
`72 Chevy Vega: Somebody just take it!  You Can have it!  Over 200 000
miles, rusted out in approximately 2 weeks after it was parked in `81. 
Engine was rebuilt just before it was parked.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:43:56 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Sorry

self control, it comes with age....

And goes at a much older age...   :)

I don't think Kelly acted too badly given the circumstances, I know when this
guy flamed me awhile back I was tempted to get brutally vulgar...  (Fortunately
the backspace key wasn't malfunctioning....)  And his first post ~was~
censorred, which got ~another~ flame...  I'd be a little p##sed, too.  Shoulda
been taken private, but shouldn't have been called for in the first place, his
post was not out of line, and JS's flame was uncalled for.  And starting in a
redundant roll-call thread, I think Kelly telling this guy to "shut t%$ @#$^ 
up"
is the least of the concerns.  I'd assume Greg's more concerned with a thread
asking every one of the 500 or so members to respond to it, rather than a
flaming profanity issue.  However, since ~both~ are now going on at the same
time, I reckon he's a tad stressed.  (Hang in there, Greg, it'll be over in a
week or two :{ )  Only to start again in two months...   
Kelly, hang in there, man.  And Jason?  Lighten up!

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:50:20 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

And just to waste my personal share of bandwidth on this subject, I'm present
and accounted for.  You can see all my cars on my web page, linked below, I'm
27, with a Bachelors Degree in Automotive Technology.  I'm a straight male, and
also enjoy walks on the beach, usually staggering looking for firewood, but
enjoyable, nonetheless.  I love Olds and Buicks, and hate chevys...  My 
opinion,
deal with it, let the flame wars be ended!
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http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner See my homepage |\ |=|  |   |   |
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:50:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Larry <kajrav@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Larry Grebey
Plains, PA.
Machinist


10 Oldsmobiles, lots of parts, and one understanding wife.





- ---OldsRokkit@aol.com wrote:
>
> Just curious...how many Oldsmobilers do we have here, where y'all
from, and
> what do you do to pay the restoration/gas/insurance/tire bills? 
I'll start:
> 
> Drew A. Durigan
> Hays, Kansas
> Midday personality on Mix103FM, one of three co-owned Radio, Inc.
stations
> here in Western Kansas.
> 

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 03:06:44 -0800
From: "f87olds" <f87olds@glblnet.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Aaron Lamb
Track Maintenance - Great Lakes Steel
Detroit -BABY!!
26 yrs. (still considered punk by some)
Member of the OLDSMOBILE STREET ROCKETS OF DETROIT

72 F-87 Cutlass
(Yes, an F-87.  An F-85 with a few more options, like carpeting instead of
rubber matting, but still less options than an S)

Other options:  non-hidden wipers, deluxe seatbelt package, power benchseat

Car is originally from Canada.  I purchased it from Rob Schinkel from
Niagara Falls, Canada, who is on the olds list, about three years ago.
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From: OldsRokkit@aol.com <OldsRokkit@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 3:00 PM
Subject: Roll Call


>Just curious...how many Oldsmobilers do we have here, where y'all from, and
>what do you do to pay the restoration/gas/insurance/tire bills?  I'll
start:
>
>Drew A. Durigan
>Hays, Kansas
>Midday personality on Mix103FM, one of three co-owned Radio, Inc. stations
>here in Western Kansas.
>

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