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oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, January 14 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1717



Blower For BB Olds
Re: Batten Vs. Edelbrock
Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
Re: 84 delta TH200c woes - revisited
I have a 76 Delta 88 for sale
Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions? (Kinda long but not really)
79 98 Transmission
Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
Selling Parts
Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is "off"?
'65 Delta 88 FS/ SoCal
Parts 4 Sale
Re: Centerforce - clutches and flywheels
71 Vista Cruiser F/S
RE: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is "off"?
Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is "off"?
Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is  "off"?
Looking for a POSI
Just a guy who who likes Oldsmobile (poem)
SCREEN SAVER
Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
Old's Web Site
RE: '94 Cutlass Timing Chain
Fwd: fwd. DONT DELETE, READ FOR DARREN
Re: 79 98 Transmission
Carb Spacer
Re: Carb Spacer
Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is	"off"?
Re: Centerforce - clutches and flywheels
Re: 79 98 Transmission
Re: Carb Spacer
I just had a real hoopy idea...
Re: 79 98 Transmission
Re: SCREEN SAVER
A new Olds fan needs info.
Re: Carb Spacer
88 Cutlass Classic F/S with T-Tops!
Re: A new Olds fan needs info.
Re: 79 98 Transmission
WANTED: Oldsmobile Commercial (fwd)
Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
Re: 79 98 Transmission
Re: Carb Spacer
Damage
Re: Carb Spacer
You're kidding, right
Parts interchange was RE: Centerforce - clutches and flywheels

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:03:24 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Blower For BB Olds

Igor,

I don't have a price sheet around here (used to, don't know where it went) but
I'm sure it's not cheap.  Dave doesn't sell junk, if he builds it you can be
sure it's top quality, and the price will reflect that.  It doesn't list one
for a BB, but give him a call and ask him or Karen about one.  Dave does a lot
with the drag boat set, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had one for them,
too.

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:17:13 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Batten Vs. Edelbrock

Mike/List,

Edelbrock probably dropped the Torker for the Batten heads due to low demand
(in contrast to another SBC intake...........) and also that after the NASCAR
Olds effort wound down most of the Batten heads were used in drag racing,
where fabricated tunnel-ram manifolds are the norm.  Dave Smith does make
tunnel-ram intakes for any Olds head and block combination from the 64 330's
to the 455's, both single and dual carb.

Alas, still no dual-plane for the Batten heads for me :-(

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:37:28 -0500
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?

Lou0118@aol.com wrote:

> I'm with you, I don't like trailer queens either.  Someone once told me 
that's
> like having full size models.

<snip>

> I plan to go to plenty of car show and cruises and I will take it to work on
> nice days in the spring, summer and fall. I bought the car to drive and enjoy
> it, not to keep it covered in the garage.
>
> That my .02
>
> Lou Principe
> 69 442 W-30

Lou,
I'd like to take exception to your statement above.
I am the proud owner of a 1975 Delta 88 Royale Convertible.
Last time I looked it was a full sized car.
I fail to see the similarity between it and a "trailer queen".
This spring, after making a few modifications to her engine, I fully expect 
her to
take on a few 5.slo's.
I plan on driving her to some shows.
I might even take her on the Power Tour.
Trailered?
Maybe when I'm dead and they trailer it to the cemetery with me in it for 
burial.

Mark Hahn

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:01:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?

On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Mark Hahn wrote:
> Lou0118@aol.com wrote:
> > I'm with you, I don't like trailer queens either.  Someone once told me 
that's
> > like having full size models.
> 
> Lou,
> I'd like to take exception to your statement above.
> I am the proud owner of a 1975 Delta 88 Royale Convertible.
> Last time I looked it was a full sized car.
> I fail to see the similarity between it and a "trailer queen".

I think Lou meant full-size "models", as in scale model kits. I'm sure he
intended no slight. How can you not love those senior cars? :)

Ah, how imprecise the written word can be sometimes! 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:05:01 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: 84 delta TH200c woes - revisited

From: Frederick Nissen <FSNissen@Worldnet.ATT.NET>
>If you do go with the 200 R4, you will want to change your rear end ratio
>immediately.  The 307 will not pull OD with a 2.41 rear end except on flat
>roads.
>Regards,
>Fred


Correctomundo. The OG trany / rear end code option in my Delta includes 2.73
gears, which are barely adequate for a Land Yaght.

drc
85 Delta 88 Royale

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:27:31 -0600
From: Shayne_Buchanan@OXY.COM
Subject: I have a 76 Delta 88 for sale

1976 Delta 88, baby blue, 118,000 miles, all original, new brakes, runs
great, ready to restore, 350 V-8. 900 obo

J. Shayne Buchanan, CPA
Senior Tax Analyst
JSBCPA1@SWBELL.NET
918-561-2978

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:34:01 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions? (Kinda long but not really)

Man, am I ever glad to be reading this stuff.  I really don't have much of a
choice right now but to use my car for everyday use.  Glad to see so many other
Olds users supporting the idea of driving the beast that drives you.  Of
course, my plan is to do a full frame-off when I get a house with garage.  At
that time I'll get another car and probably avoid snow and rain at all times
with the Cutlass.  But, you can be sure I'll drive it.

As for the subject line of "Beater vs. Restored...," of course, I don't think
any Olds should remain a beater if a ray of hope exists for its resurrection.
However, if what is really meant is "Driver vs. Trailer Queen,"  well,
definitely drive the animal.  I'll also say that I'd rather see an Olds in
primer driving confidently down the road than an Olds with a
better-than-factory paint job sitting humbled on a trailer, if the trailer is
all it ever knows.

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:05:10 EST
From: BradRoss79@aol.com
Subject: 79 98 Transmission

It just occurred to me that I am not for sure what transmission is in my 79
98.   I have not really gone into much deep investigation since I bought the
car in June.
I am sure some of you on the list know.   
Thanks in advance for the Info.

Brad Ross
'79 Ninety Eight Regency
350 4bbl   Dual Exhaust

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:19:39 EST
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?

In a message dated 99-01-13 16:47:31 EST, you write:

>Subj:	 Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?
>Date:	99-01-13 16:47:31 EST
>From:	earthsci@pop.usit.net (C. Casteel)
>Sender:	oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
>Reply-to:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>
>This wasn't a blue (Camaro?) was it? Saw one at a show last weekend on
>stands with the wheels off. Thought they were trying to sell brakes or
>something...
>
>

no, this was about ten years ago,  but sure was funny!    steven,
w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:30:37 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?

In a message dated 1/13/99 6:41:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, mahahn@fuse.net
writes:

<< Lou0118@aol.com wrote:
 
 > I'm with you, I don't like trailer queens either.  Someone once told me
that's
 > like having full size models.
 
 <snip>
 
 > I plan to go to plenty of car show and cruises and I will take it to work
on
 > nice days in the spring, summer and fall. I bought the car to drive and
enjoy
 > it, not to keep it covered in the garage.
 >
 > That my .02
 >
 > Lou Principe
 > 69 442 W-30
 
 Lou,
 I'd like to take exception to your statement above.
 I am the proud owner of a 1975 Delta 88 Royale Convertible.
 Last time I looked it was a full sized car.
 I fail to see the similarity between it and a "trailer queen".
 This spring, after making a few modifications to her engine, I fully expect
her to
 take on a few 5.slo's.
 I plan on driving her to some shows.
 I might even take her on the Power Tour.
 Trailered?
 Maybe when I'm dead and they trailer it to the cemetery with me in it for
burial.
 
 Mark Hahn
  >>


Mark,

Sorry, what I meant was a "full size model toy", not a full size real car. 

Lou Principe 
69 442 W-30

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:44:03 -0800
From: "Tim Wurtz" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: Selling Parts

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:41:55 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is "off"?

Christopher,

A reputable mechanic told me never to disconnect the battery while the
engine is running.  He said it makes the alternator run full output,
and it fries them in a short while. 

Jeff Carterblue
442@webtv.net

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:54:20 EST
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: '65 Delta 88 FS/ SoCal

Oldsmonuts-

In my travels about today found an extremely clean '65 Delta 88 2 door. 83K
miles, 400 auto, a/c. Light green metallic with matching original cloth
interior. Didn't drive it, but looks to be a one owner 'little old lady' car.
Nice chrome and trim, spot of rust on the lower LFF only. Fresh paint, clean
motor with 'A' heads.

They are asking $2800 for it, but I've found this lot to be flexible. If
somebody's really interested I'd be glad to do a closer check and a drive.

Name of the fellow at the yard is George and the number is 310-768-1944.

Peter
coupeking@aol.com
San Pedro, CA

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:04:15 EST
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: Parts 4 Sale

1969 cutlass 4-door. many good usable parts. 350 2bbl/ non factory 4-speed.
email me privately with needs. TheBlue67@Aol.Com

1" fenillic spacer plate. for a 4bbl Q-Jet. never been used. $40

Parts:
1964-67
65 cutlass hood $100
65 cutlass trunklid $100
65 cutlass convertible 6 piece stainless steel trim set. $250
64-65 power trunk release. complete $150
64-65 consle mounted tach $100
64-67 convertible visors w/ mirrors $make offer

1968-69
set of 5 SSll trim rings. real nice $75
consle. o.k.  $50 obo
69 TILT floor shift column $150
carpet, lite saddle, brand new $100
carpet, dark saddle, 2 months old $75

1970
cutlass bumper, ready to bolt on. good chrome $125
442 bumper in primer $125
consle $125
Tilt column $150
decklid $75
carpet, lite saddle, brand new $100
carpet, dark saddle, 2 months old $75

1971-72
consle $125
Tilt column $150
decklid $75
sport mirror, driver remote $40
72 rear lenses $15 a pair
carpet, lite saddle, brand new $100
carpet, dark saddle, 2 months old $75

no prices include shipping. depends on the item you are buying wether or not
you will have to pay shipping. Located in the Cleveland Ohio area. E-mail me
privately if you have any questions on anything. TheBlue67@Aol.com

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible
TheBlue67@Aol.Com

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:15:07 -0500
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: Centerforce - clutches and flywheels

>>and I still need to find a clutch fork.
>I would think (always dangerous) that GM clutch forks from the late
60s/early
>70s are all
>pretty much the same.  Olds and Pontiac used the same one in 70 A bodies.
>Does anyone have
>an interchange manual handy to check this out?
>


I'll bet they are the same too.  When yanked the motor out of the 67 442 the
little pivot point that screws into the block broke off.   Went to the
dealership to try and get one.  They discontinued the Olds part years ago.
I had him look up a 1970 Chevy pickup clutch pivot.  They still make that
one, and upon inspection it turns out its the exact same part..  Chances are
if the pivot is the same and the throw out berring is the same, the lever
will be the same.  It's amazing they dont cross reference these things.

Ken
olds442@en.com

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:32:44 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: 71 Vista Cruiser F/S

This is from a local weekly freely distributed classifieds paper.  By the
phone number, I'd say it's in or around Hilltown, PA which is in central
Bucks County, PA.  About 25 miles north of Philly.

"1971 Olds Vista Cruiser S/W 350 engine, original engine, runs very good,
one owner.  Make offer. 215-822-8162."

Now we all know how excellent those 71 350's are.  And station wagons'
values have been increasing rapidly lately...
I could probably go check the car out if anyone seriously considers buying
it.  If you need me to check it out, reply to me privately @
costanzo@netcarrier.com so I don't inadvertenly delete a publicly posted
message.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hybernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:40:02 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?

I absolutely agree. I'd rather sit tall in the seat, foot to the engine
growl and watch the heads snap trying to get a look before I'm gone with the
wind. Nor did I build Quincy to tag along in a trailered box. However, times
will exist this summer where he will need to live in a box from show to
show. Why you ask? Well, occasionally I might not be free to motor him from
show to show and no one else will drive him least he gets sold. (highly
unlikely as that will require my dead fingers being pryed free). Not to
mention as the project prototype, Quincy is far more expensive than a
production unit will be. There is also an issue as to "Provable value" and
"secure transport" as far as insurance is concerned. I can easily cover the
provable with receipts. Ever try to get collision & comprehensive on a
valued $25,000 '86 G-body? Currently I carry 2 separate insurance pollicies
on him. Quincy is also covered by other pollicies depending where he is.
Build & Paint facilities & home insurance also cover at those locations, and
Basic liability for travel, (no fault NY), and a custom written policy as to
his full coverage value.

I would love nothing more than to cris/cross the US this summer to the tunes
on the stereo and growl of the exhaust. Doing so as I head to the major
shows displaying Quincy. Sheer street level risk from the other road nuts
that could care less, dictates occasional secure transport for long
distance. I do not, nor ever will consider Quincy a "Trailer Queen" as he
will run with the best. Occasionally doing so at a few show/strip locations.
At the same token, Quincy will put many miles on in testament to road
worthiness. It's a thin line of risk. I possess a class "A" license with all
amenities including class B & motorcycle. I've spent better than 15 years
traveling this country with never an avoidable incident, driving nearly
everything imaginable. Murphy's Law will dictate that since the cargo is MY
investment, something will go wrong. There isn't a nut or screw that doesn't
have my finger print on it. Or the blood from my knuckles.

So remember, Not all transported cars are Queens. Some are Kings with the
snot to prove it. I do agree though. I'd rather drive than ride any day!
Good thing I have a few other Olds to play in...

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@CC-IROC-SS.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

G.J.C - Hanger95 Technical Support Engineer.
For free Win95-98 Support, come visit < GJC > at:
http://www.salemcounty.com/win95board/multipage1.html

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:50:48 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is "off"?

The voltage regulator can also cause this.  My '86 CSB got a brand new
alternator that was bad right out of the box, so that IS a possibility. 
Most places like Auto Zone will test them for free.
Brian.

C. Casteel wrote:
> 
> O.K.
> 
> Got kind of warm around here today, so I fired up the car and drove around
> the block. When I got back, I disconnected the pos. battery terminal while
> the car was running and it died.
> 
> Always heard that if a car did this, it had a bad alternator. In this case,
> the alternator is brand new.
> 
> Additional thoughts?
> 
> TIA again.
> 
> Christopher K. Casteel, P.E.
> EARTH SCIENCE ENGINEERING, LLC
> Clarksville, Tennessee
> (931) 645-8008
> (931) 645-0237
> earthsci@usit.net

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:54:14 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is "off"?

In the Haynes manual for my '74 and '76 Volvo's and my '93 Sentra they
say that when you remove the neg cable with the engine running, to turn
on the headlights, I guess it is meant to offset some of that load, or
make the alternator used to pulling a heavy load, so it's not
immediately slammed with full output all at once.  Anybody know more
about this?
Brian.


blue442@webtv.net wrote:
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> A reputable mechanic told me never to disconnect the battery while the
> engine is running.  He said it makes the alternator run full output,
> and it fries them in a short while.
> 
> Jeff Carterblue
> 442@webtv.net

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:54:08 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch is  
"off"?

take the car to a action auto (if you have thoes), they will test the whole
electrial system for free

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:30:29 EST
From: MrExMt@aol.com
Subject: Looking for a POSI

 
 Hi all,
 I'm looking for a '68-70 10 bolt ring gear, 12 bolt cover posi carrier unit
with 2.93-3.23 gears for my '68 cutlass. Any help will be appreciated!  E-mail
me privately please.   Thank you
 Leigh Tenenholtz 
mrexmt@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:15:43 EST
From: Bbymks4@aol.com
Subject: Just a guy who who likes Oldsmobile (poem)

        I wrote this last year.

                                        Just a guy who likes Oldsmobile

               If I could have a wish, I'd build me a car, so I could go to
places. near and 
   far, and not just any old car will do, it's got to be a legendary car, of
which there are
   just a few, it's got to be an Oldsmobile 442. If I only had one, it would
make me 
   smile, as I would proudly drive it, mile by mile. American made, and made
with 
   pride, this would be a car, that's a really sweet ride. The only car I know
that could
   make me feel this way, I just bought the other day. So now when I'm sitting
there
   behind the wheel, I sure am glad I got an Oldsmobile. It's got a 350 rocket
with
  dual exhaust, this is a car that can get you lost. It's got a four barrel
carb, and a
  low rearend, tell me what kind of picture, does this send. It's got white
stripes, and
   it's painted black, I'm sorry now, but I'm never going to give it back. the
year it was
   built was ' 73 I now think that it was made, just for me. the car is not
perfect, but I 
   have no fears, it will be with money, and a couple of years.....
                                              Written by Steve M.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:43:47 -0500 (EST)
From: jhbII <jh2nlla@noblecan.org>
Subject: SCREEN SAVER

            MY 2 cents or words for the H/O screen saver
F***ING COOL!!!!!!!                                  

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:47:10 -0500
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> I think Lou meant full-size "models", as in scale model kits. I'm sure he
> intended no slight. How can you not love those senior cars? :)
>
> Ah, how imprecise the written word can be sometimes!
>
>

Greg,
Yeah I thought of that after I sent the post.
No "slam" intended Lou.

Mark

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:33:59 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Old's Web Site

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Hi all,
Well, I've finally got my site up to a decent standard and have added it
to my sig file as some may have noticed.  I would just like to =
publically
announce that it's up and running with a bunch of pics of my old 72=20
I'm always talking about.  So for those of you that are interested,=20
curious, or merely bored, have at it.  If you got any constructive=20
comments let me know, as this is my first page and I'm still learning.
Much thanks to John McJunkin for all his help setting this up and=20
putting me on his burnout page. =20

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

PS I'm doing the F body spindle swap to my 68 in the spring and=20
will take pictures so that I can build a page for those who have shown
interest in it.  My little service to the list :)

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:41:43 PST
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: '94 Cutlass Timing Chain

Hi,

I would check you query against your maintenance manual.  Some manuals 
recommend replacing it 60-90K.  The closer you get to 90K, or past, the 
more likely it is going to break.

Is it a actual chain or belt type?  It is kind of a toss, if you ask me.  
Remember, the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.  Make an issue of it if you 
feel it warrants it.  At the very least you could get a discount, at the 
worst, you will have to pay the full amount to fix it.

Just my $.02,

Chris Rivier
Austin,TX
'66 Delta 88...The BEAST is BACK!
'88 Festiva...ZIPPY 166K LAWN ORNAMENT!


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> >>>>>>> >>>  where I attend Bethel Park High School and participate
in 
> >>many
> >>>>>>> >>> sports.
> >>>>>>> >>> I have severe ostriopliosis of the liver. (My liver is 
> >>>extremely
> >>>>>>> >>>  inflamed).  Modern Science has yet to find a cure. 
Valley
> >>>>>>> >>> Children's Hospital has agreed to donate 7 cents to the 
> >>>National 
> >>>>>>> >>>Diesese
> >>>>>>> >>> Societyfor every name on this letter. Please send it
around 
> >as
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:28:55 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission

>'79 Ninety Eight Regency
>350 4bbl   Dual Exhaust


Th350 tanny.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:52:29 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Carb Spacer

Can someone explain to me what exactly a Carb spacer does and if it is worth
it.  From what I gathered so far, it is supposed to take away a bit of
bottom end and help up top.  Is this true?  How exactly does it work? and
lastly, does it introduce any driveability problems?  All I can think of is
increased velocity so better bottom end.  Explain.  Igor.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:07:45 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Carb Spacer

Hi Igor,

They work very well on most large V-8s, and moves the power range up in
rpms.  Might help a bunch with your car & traction.  I think they keep
more fuel in suspension.  A 1/2" spacer really perked up my motor's
throttle response.   Just check for hood clearance.

Jeff Carter
blue442@webtv.net

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:34:49 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: <2nd clue> Can something discharge a battery when switch 
is	"off"?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>


>In the Haynes manual for my '74 and '76 Volvo's and my '93 Sentra they
>say that when you remove the neg cable with the engine running, to turn
>on the headlights, I guess it is meant to offset some of that load, or
>make the alternator used to pulling a heavy load, so it's not
>immediately slammed with full output all at once.  Anybody know more
>about this?
>Brian.
>


The battery acts as a voltage "clamp", or limiter, by putting a load on the
alternator. Without it, the regulator can go "open loop", turning the
alternator on full. Some alternators can reach 18 volts in this mode, which
will toast radios, interior lights, and electronic ignitions. Turning on the
headlights would usually be enough load to substitute for no battery.

drc

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:06:50 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: Centerforce - clutches and flywheels

>little pivot point that screws into the block broke off.   Went to the

I bought two of them a few years ago when I needed a new one for my car.  I
was afraid they would discontinue them.  Good to hear they are still available
for the time being.  With the hydraulic actuated clutches in the newer
vehicles, it may not be long before some of these parts disappear completely.
Better stock up now.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:17:03 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission

Brad,

All '79 98s except the Diesels were equipped with TH 400s.

Regards,
Fred

- -----Original Message-----
From: BradRoss79@aol.com <BradRoss79@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:13 PM
Subject: 79 98 Transmission


>It just occurred to me that I am not for sure what transmission is in my 79
>98.   I have not really gone into much deep investigation since I bought
the
>car in June.
>I am sure some of you on the list know.
>Thanks in advance for the Info.
>
>Brad Ross
>'79 Ninety Eight Regency
>350 4bbl   Dual Exhaust
>

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:16:14 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: Carb Spacer

Jeff Carter wrote:
>>They work very well on most large V-8s, and moves the power range up in
rpms.  Might help a bunch with your car & traction.  I think they keep
more fuel in suspension.  A 1/2" spacer really perked up my motor's
throttle response.   Just check for hood clearance.<<

I had the same results from a one inch spacer on my old 289 fairlane that I
drag raced.  One other thing to check is compatibility between the spacer and
the intake.  There are two spacer configurations, open and divided.  The open
ones are just that,  one big hole that is to be used on a single plane intake.
The divided ones have four sperate holes, like the throttle plate of the carb,
and are meant to be used on a dual plane intake.  You can use the four hole
version on any intake, but the open style should only be used on a single
plane for best results.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:47:14 -0800
From: Shawn Holwegner <shawn@holwegner.com>
Subject: I just had a real hoopy idea...

I recently purchased the '84 Cutlass on ebay (yup the one for $250), and
I was considering the options on what to do with it [ol blue, my '85 supreme
is going to be as stock as possible, but this car I have other plans]


I was thinking of trashing the 200c in it and tossing in a Richmond Gear
6 Speed. Any ideas on this? Has anyone done this?

I was wondering if anyone as well has 'converted' their shell into a T-Top...
I realize this is something I most certainly wouldnt want to tackle myself,
I wouldnt want to be responsible if it didnt seal correctly or if i miscut...

Rather than doing the stock thing and dropping a 454 into her, I was thinking
of just using a 403 since itd be very easy and I could eventually drop a 454
if I was so inclined.

(This project above wouldnt take too long to do, but due to my lack of funds
and my lack of available tools, it'll most probably be done in a period 
over the next year)

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:40:08 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission

- -----Original Message-----
From: Igor T. '81 DRB 455 <igor455@home.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission


>>'79 Ninety Eight Regency
>>350 4bbl   Dual Exhaust
>
>
>Th350 tanny.

Igor,

'77-'79 Delta 88s with the 350 "R" engine commonly came with the TH 350 (the
200 was a possibility as well, but not too common).  All '78 and '79 98s
with either gas engine (350 or 403) came equipped with the TH 400, as did
most '77 models.  The TH 350 was used in some '77 98s and Electras.  All I
can figure is that they had a production capacity problem  with the 400 in
'77 as the large intermediates were still being built.

Regards,
Fred
>
>

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:57:32 -0600
From: "Michael L Johnson" <mljohns2@crnotes.collins.rockwell.com>
Subject: Re: SCREEN SAVER

Where can I see this screen saver at? Is it able to be downloaded?

Mike Johnson




jhbII <jh2nlla@noblecan.org> on 01/13/99 11:43:47 PM

Please respond to oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

To:   oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
cc:
Subject:  SCREEN SAVER




            MY 2 cents or words for the H/O screen saver
F***ING COOL!!!!!!!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:06:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: A new Olds fan needs info.

List,

Well, I met this person not too long ago and he is on the look out for
a 4-4-2. He asked me this question and I figured I would turn to the
list of knowladge to see if I could find an answer for him. Here it
is.....

===================================================
Del

I do have a question for you after all.  I am looking
at a 68 442 W30
convertible.  It is my understanding that the last 6
digits of the VIN number
should be stamped on a pad on the front of the engine
block on the drivers
side just below the head.  I am looking at 2 cars that
seem to be all correct
except for that matching number.  Do you know if they
really had those numbers
matching in 68?  Anything you can know or can find on
this I would greatly
appreciate.  
Bob
==================================================
I will let him know of any information the list can give. Thanks!

Del




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1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:06:56 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Carb Spacer

Can someone explain to me what exactly a Carb spacer does and if it is
worth
it.
_________

The answer, as always, is "it depends."  All normally-aspirated engines can
be tuned for power production at certain RPM ranges by varying the length
and diameter of the intake and exhaust tracts.  This is why you want tuned
headers and also why most new engines use long tuned runners on their EFI
systems.  As a general rule of thumb, longer, smaller diameter intake and
exhaust tracts equate to more power and torque at lower RPM; shorter and
larger tune for higher RPM.

The addition of a carb spacer is effectively changing the intake tract.  As
others have pointed out, this is further effected by the type of intake;
single and dual plane intakes will respond differently to spacers.  An
individual runner spacer on a dual plane intake will usually result in
tuning the engine for more torque and more low-end power, possibly at the
expense of high-end power.  Using an open spacer on a dual plane intake
will actually have the opposite effect, as you will have effectively opened
up the intake to "see" more volume.

There are, however, many second order effects which can skew the results
one way or another.  For example, if your intake positions the carb too
close to the floor of the intake, you may have a problem with fuel droplets
condensing out when they hit the floor before making the turn into the
runners.  A spacer may help this problem and thus improve engine response.
Similarly, your intake and carb combination may have a reversion problem; a
spacer may tune the intake tract to eliminate the problem at the RPM range
at which you usually drive (of course, if you don't currently have a
reversion problem, the addition of the spacer may cause one).  Finally, the
addition of a spacer may help to isolate the carb from intake manifold heat
and thus further improve performance.  The bottom line is that the benefits
of using a spacer (and the optimum thickness and configuration of spacer to
use) are very dependent on the car in question (intake type, cam, gears,
tire diameter, RPM range, etc).  The results obtained from using a specific
spacer on a specific car in no way definitively indicate how a spacer will
work on any other specific car.  You can get a rough idea, but ultimately
this is a trial and error process.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:26:25 PST
From: "Ray Costanzo" <ray_in_pa@hotmail.com>
Subject: 88 Cutlass Classic F/S with T-Tops!

This is from a photo add in the Auto Shopper in Montgomery County, PA.  
Near Philadelphia.

1988 Cutlass Supreme Classic $25 per week or $3995
V8, auto w/OD, ps, pb, air, dual p-seats, p-lcks, pwin, tilt, cassette, 
t-tops(!), plush int. 1/2 vinyl top, American Racing rims, new 
inspection.


This car has it all apparently.  I'll race y'all to it.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass 
84 Calais winter beater
costanzo@netcarrier.com
ray_in_pa@hotmail.com weekdays, until this damn bank gets a better email 
system!

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:27:33 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: A new Olds fan needs info.

It is my understanding that the last 6 digits of the VIN number should be
stamped on a pad on the front of the engine block on the drivers side just
below the head.  I am looking at 2 cars that seem to be all correct except
for that matching number.  Do you know if they
really had those numbers matching in 68?
___________

Del,

Yes, all 68-up cars had the number stamped.  If the car is a true W-30,
this VIN derivative will take the form of 38Mxxxx where:

3 = Oldsmobile division
8 = 1968 model year (another number here indicates that it isn't a 1968
motor)
M = Lansing built (all W-30s were built in Lansing, so any other letter
indicates that it can't be a W-motor - though an M by itself doesn't prove
that it's a W-motor either)
xxxxxx = the last six digits of the VIN of the car in which the motor was
originally installed.

If the motor has a number stamped which doesn't match the above, it's a
non-original motor from another car.  If it doesn't have any number stamped
at all, it could be one of two things.  First, it could be a
dealer-installed factory service block, which would come without a VIN
derivative.  The dealer should have stamped the new block with the VIN
derivative, but may not have.  The other possibility is that it's a 65-67
block (ie, a short-stroke 400 or a 425), as these motors did not have the
VIN derivative stamped on the block.  Note that obviously this latter
option can be checked by looking at the block casting letter ("D" for the
425, "B" or "E" for the 400 - as opposed to "G" for the correct 68
long-stroke 400).

Unfortunately, on a car this old, the probability is high that the motor
has been replaced.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:43:50 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission

>'77-'79 Delta 88s with the 350 "R" engine commonly came with the TH 350
(the
>200 was a possibility as well, but not too common).  All '78 and '79 98s
>with either gas engine (350 or 403) came equipped with the TH 400, as did
>most '77 models.  The TH 350 was used in some '77 98s and Electras.  All I
>can figure is that they had a production capacity problem  with the 400 in
>'77 as the large intermediates were still being built.


Opps.  Sorry.  I got confused cause when I was looking for a cross-member
and other parts, I ran into a lot of late '70s Buicks with Th350s and one
'78 98 that had a 403 (I checked the motor, it was a gas 403) and a Th350.
Must have been a swap.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:54:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: WANTED: Oldsmobile Commercial (fwd)

This was sent to me personally. Belgian TV is looking for some Olds TV
ads! Can anyone assist Frank? Please respond to Frank.SEGERS@VRT.BE if you
can provide him with what he needs. Let's get behind this, guys... might
get us a note in the credits! :)

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:43:44 +0100
From: SEGERS Frank <Frank.SEGERS@VRT.BE>
Subject: Oldsmobile Commercial

Dear Mr. Beaulieu,

I'm looking for old Radio- or TV-commercials featuring Oldsmobile cars.
The Belgian Public Broadcasting Company VRT would like to use the sound
in one of it's programs. 

Thanks,

Frank Segers
VRT - International Relations
Tel: +32 2 741.38.28
Fax: +32 2 732.61.13
e-mail: Frank.Segers@vrt.be

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:01:36 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Beater vs. Restored: Opinions?

In a message dated 01/14/1999 12:48:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mahahn@fuse.net writes:

<< Greg Beaulieu wrote:
 
 > I think Lou meant full-size "models", as in scale model kits. I'm sure he
 > intended no slight. How can you not love those senior cars? :)
 >
 > Ah, how imprecise the written word can be sometimes!
 >
 >
 
 Greg,
 Yeah I thought of that after I sent the post.
 No "slam" intended Lou.
 
 Mark
  >>

Mark,

No Problem.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:40:42 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission

>Opps.  Sorry.  I got confused cause when I was looking for a cross-member
>and other parts, I ran into a lot of late '70s Buicks with Th350s and one
>'78 98 that had a 403 (I checked the motor, it was a gas 403) and a Th350.
>Must have been a swap.


Igor,

Interesting.  Are you sure it was a '78 and not a '77 that had been repaired
after crash damage with '78 parts?  Can't understand why anyone would swap
in a TH 350 in place of the TH 400 unless they wanted the TH 400 for another
car!

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:24:32 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Carb Spacer

I prolly should have been more specific about my spacer.  It was a 1/2"
phenolic job ported from a 4 hole to an open type, used to mate a 3310
750 square bore holley to a spread bore edlebrock intake on a 454 ch*vy.
Also cut down and radiused the center divider on the intake.  I made
sure the spacer and intake meshed with no obstructions to flow.

Didn't lose much low end, but engine response was much improved in the
higher rpms.

You can make a cheap, or free spacer from plywood. Don't know how thick
you can get plywood, but I've seen it up to 1/2".

Jeff Carter
blue442@webtv.net

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:37:57 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Damage

Hey all,

Well, Lady Winter has taken her toll.  About 2 hours ago, I was going
through a green light at an intersection and oh yes, some ass decided to
blow his red light and cut me off.  Needless to say, I went into a
powerslide, and completely broadsided a green direction sign.  Dented
the rear quarter on the passenger's side somewhat.  The worst part was
the it was on a hill, so as I was trying to get off the sign, I did more
damage the just about the entire passenger's side...it's not terribly
extensive, but it's bad.  I went from a Cutlass with no dents and bad
paint, to a Cutlass with bad dents and paint!  So,  who knows where and
how much I might be able to get  front and/or rear quarter panels for?
And, as I am selling the car once warm weather hits...it goes to the
first $1250 I see.  I guess the good thing is that no one was hurt,
however if I could ever find the guy that cut me off, and then decided
not to stop...someone would be hurt....   :)
I'm not sure what Year One has or the quality.  I've never ordered body
panels before, and the junkyards around me really don't have much to
offer.
Any info would be a highly appreciated.  And as a side note, any of you
the fall within the Winter's snowy grasp - take it easy out
there......or drive a TANK!

By for now,

Dan Gerow
http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow

'71 Cutlass (the real winter beater)
'69 4-42

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- ---------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
Computer Support
Systems Administrator
Stonehill College
320 Washington Street
Easton, MA 02357
dgerow@stonehill.edu
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:55:39 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Carb Spacer

>You can make a cheap, or free spacer from plywood. Don't know how thick
>you can get plywood, but I've seen it up to 1/2".
>
>Jeff Carter
>blue442@webtv.net
>
>
>

HA ha ha. I did that one time back when I was in highschool. Made a spacer
out of plywood. It was a '77 beater Camaro with a 350/4sp and holley 1850
carb. I remember cutting it out with a jigsaw and drill. I don't know why
the hell I did that back then, probably trying to get the air filter to
stick up through the hood or something. I remember The first time I fired
it up after putting on my brand new spacer. It ran rough for about 30
seconds, backfired through the carb and set the gas covered plywood spacer
on fire. Well, blowing on it didn't work, but scooping dirt and gravel up
off the driveway and throwing it on the intake seemed to do the trick. ha
ha ha ha. The things you do just for a little self instruction on how NOT
to do things. I think they call that 'learning the hard way'. My advice,
Don't use plywood to make a spacer. If you want a spacer, buy a good one.
They're made for what they do and they don't cost an arm and a leg.
ha ha haaaaaaaaaa

Ed 
The Omega Man

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:43:57 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: You're kidding, right

I hopped on the interstate on my way to work today, and shortly after
driving (a few miles) I noticed on one of the houses that sets along the
interstate and is accessible by like a Frontage Rd. or similar a 79 or 80
Cutlass resting on a 4x4 chassis.  I thought, man that's wrong.  Why did you
do that.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:00:03 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: Parts interchange was RE: Centerforce - clutches and flywheels

> >and I still need to find a clutch fork.
> I would think (always dangerous) that GM clutch forks from the late
> 60s/early
> 70s are all
> pretty much the same.  Olds and Pontiac used the same one in 70 A bodies.
> Does anyone have
> an interchange manual handy to check this out?
> 
I've often thought that about many items among the Chevelle, GS, GTO, 4-4-2,
etc line, since there is obviously many more items made for the Chevy lines.
I just haven't been able to 'cross reference' things amongst the Pontiac and
Olds catalogs I have.  Probably should just get a parts manual, would most
likely make it much simplier, but that would be too easy.
On a related note I just received my firewall insulation pad and underdash
insulation for my 66 GTO.  Ordered them from Year One, and they get them
from a company called R.E.M.  And on the tag it says '64-67 a-body'.  Also,
on my GTO, the air deflector that bolts to the bottom of the heater box by
the very front edge of the console on non a/c cars has a chevy bowtie emblem
molded onto it.  The GTO restoration guide I have even references this as
being possible.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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