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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, February 20 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1793



Re: A/C setup
Re: handling
Re: My Cutlass has a problem
Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?
RE: Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?
where can i find headlight fuesable links? what do they look like?
Re: Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?
Olds FAQ - preliminary
Roll Call
Re: twilight sentinel
Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?
Re: ADMIN: Bookmark This Please!!
Re: Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?
Re: twilight sentinel
Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?
Re: Is '72 455 Cutlass down pipe similar to 455 Buick?
Body Work Book Suggestions
Re: Roll Call
Re: Olds display cabinet
Re: Convertables, was Re: *I* Like 73-77 Cutlii,
Seeking Car + Parts
Re: twilight sentinel
Re: Was Roll call - Calling all Web Page links 
W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!
Re: Cut off tool
Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?
Re: Conv't Top Replacement $$
Re. Roll Call
Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?
'83 Custom Cruiser Wipers
Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!
[none]
Re: Roll Call
Re: twilight sentinel
Re: My Cutlass has a problem
Will you please take us off your mailing list!
Re: Cut off tool
cars wanted
RE: Will you please take us off your mailing list!
Re: My Cutlass has a problem
Rare 72 HurstOlds poster
th2004r?
Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?
Re: Carb Question
Rompin 75 Was Screen Saver Pics update
Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!
Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!
Re: Will you please take us off your mailing list!
roll call
1989-1991 OLDS 88
Fw: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!
Re: th2004r?
FAQ Update
Re: where can i find headlight fuesable links? what do they look like?
Rechroming bumpers...need suggestions!
Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!
Thanks From Dr. Bob (fwd)
Thanks From Dr. Bob
Still need E-address assisst - Karoe@ ??
68 fiberglass bumpers
Re: FAQ Update
Re: Will you please take us off your mailing list!
Re: Still need E-address assisst - Karoe@ ??
Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:05:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: A/C setup

- ---Efton March <eftonm@crss.gar.esys.com> wrote:
>
> I know most of us want to keep our cars fairly stock looking, but
has anyone
> converted their A/C to use the new type of freon?  Can you use the
original
> compressor and most other original parts?  I'll be looking at fixing
mine in
> the 72 S in the not to distant future...
> 
> Efton March
> 72 Cutlass S
===================================
I believe that you can still run all your original parts, but you will
need to have all of the seals and stuff inside the pump changed. As
far as I know this is all it needs. I could be wrong though!
==
Rock-Man's Page http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
rockman20@yahoo.com
1986 Honda Accord DX
1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
1981 John Deer Snowmobile
197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:16:48 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: handling

In a message dated 2/19/99 3:53:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Myassachafin@webtv.net writes:

<< any sugg.on how to tighten my suspension i have an 84 cutlass which too
 much body roll
 
 thanks >>

      Rear anti-sway bar, thicker front anti-sway bar, and stiffer springs,
new shocks. Dorian

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:19:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: My Cutlass has a problem

- ---Thomas Jacquillard <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net> wrote:
> I also have a flex fan and when I step on it I get a squeal also. I
have
> done everything I could think of but I never thought of the fan
causing
> this. How could it? I am running a 68 455 in a 68 cutlass Supreme.
> LMK, T.J.
===============================
Not sure why this happens. The only logical explanation I could think
of is that the fan is trying to suck in too much air which causes a
lot of load and the belts just can't keep up. I never had a problem
with this before I had the flex fan and I have never found anyone else
with the same problem until now. If you find a way to fix it, please
let me know!!!! I was down to thinking about changing all the pulleys?
I dunno!
==
Rock-Man's Page http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
rockman20@yahoo.com
1986 Honda Accord DX
1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
1981 John Deer Snowmobile
197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:44:47 -0600
From: cdemps@lsumc.edu (Dempsey, Charles)
Subject: Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?

Hi List,

I'm looking for an intake manifold for my '76 CS project. I have been
offered a Holley Street Dominator for small block Olds. It's in another
state, so I can't go look at it, and the current owner doesn't know much
about it. He does say that it has an EGR block off. 

Are these intakes any good? Would an Edelbrock Performer be a better
choice?

Will they work with a Q-Jet?

Thanks,
Charles

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:45:36 -0600
From: "Johnson, Samuel" <SJohnso6@allstate.com>
Subject: RE: Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?

Personally I like the Holly Street Dominator better then the Edelbrock.  I
tried both on my 403 motor and the Street Dominator gave me way more top end
and about the same amount of torque on the low end.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dempsey  Charles [SMTP:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca]
> Sent:	Friday, February 19, 1999 12:44 PM
> To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca; cdemps@lsumc.edu
> Subject:	Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I'm looking for an intake manifold for my '76 CS project. I have been
> offered a Holley Street Dominator for small block Olds. It's in another
> state, so I can't go look at it, and the current owner doesn't know much
> about it. He does say that it has an EGR block off. 
> 
> Are these intakes any good? Would an Edelbrock Performer be a better
> choice?
> 
> Will they work with a Q-Jet?
> 
> Thanks,
> Charles

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:50:57 -0800 (PST)
From: carl g <cngtwo@yahoo.com>
Subject: where can i find headlight fuesable links? what do they look like?

i can't find the fuse able links for the headlights on my 84 cutlass.
what do they look like? where are they located? such a simple thing
headlights that just stopped working are giving me so much problems,
it is driving me nuts. thank you


 

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:50:42 -0600 (CST)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?

Charles,

I have a holley street dominator on my 350 which i did not crank yet. 
You can see the manifold pretty good on my homepage (see address below).

A Q-jet will fit. It is a single plane manifold! It is not really made 
for dayly drive and you will have some loss on the low rpm range though 
it will be better in the high rpms. The only reason I put it on is 
because I got it for free and needed a 4bbl intake. I would rather go for 
a performer because that one has a wider rpm range for dayly driving.
 
Only exception why to buy a dominator would of course be if you drag race 
or if you drive mainly interstate and you want it to fly in higher rpms 
when you hit the pedal. 

I don't know about EGR, havent put the carb on yet. The manifold also 
has a slight tilt to the front on the carb surface to level the carb 
when you start at the line and the front of the car comes up! (This just 
shows once more that this is more of a drag race intake then anything 
else. It is looking awesome though!)
  
BTW: How much is the guy asking for his dominator? (I am sure I will sell 
mine at some point, would be good to have an idea.) 

Hope this helps! Good Luck.

Regards, George
- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 cdemps@lsumc.edu wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> I'm looking for an intake manifold for my '76 CS project. I have been
> offered a Holley Street Dominator for small block Olds. It's in another
> state, so I can't go look at it, and the current owner doesn't know much
> about it. He does say that it has an EGR block off. 
> 
> Are these intakes any good? Would an Edelbrock Performer be a better
> choice?
> 
> Will they work with a Q-Jet?
> 
> Thanks,
> Charles
> 

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:11:02 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Olds FAQ - preliminary

For those who want to look, there's an unfinished, and in the process of
being updated copy of the FAQ at
http://www.ameritech.net/users/dlbrown/oldsfaq.htm. Graphics are missing
because Ameritech only gives 2MB, unless you sign up for their
business-type accounts. I'll being moving to inil.net pretty soon as
they give 20MB for their common accounts. I'll let the list know.

In terms of new and updated items compared to the 4.1 release, I'm
pretty sure the "updated" and "new" markers on the TOC page are correct.

The update has been taking longer than expected (that never happens,
right?). I also have to get off my duff (fudd in shelbyville) in terms
of contacting others to help out.
- --
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
          Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
http://www.442.com   OR   http://www.en.com/users/thall
Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
           ftp://arl.arizona.edu/lists/olds

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:14:50 -0800
From: pipe <banner@kwom.com>
Subject: Roll Call

Hello everybody

My dad gave me my first car a 74 Olds 98. Been hooked since.

?James Aiello 32yrs old
?Originally from Youngstown Ohio, moved to
?Wheaton Illinois in1986 (just west of Chicago)
?Not Married, Yet!
?Network Administrator / Graphic Artist
?In need of a Garage!
74 98 4 door 455 duel exhaust. white top, red interior and red exterior (My
fathers Oldsmobile)
74 98 4 door parts car runs great
70 Cutlass conv. rust bucket. front clip off. just wheels and frame sticking
out.
71-2 Cutlass shell rust free. will donate sheet metal to conv.
70 442 455 auto hardtop rust free, needs restoring
96 Dodge Ram sport 1500 4x4. trans spewed its guts last week. thinking about
    selling it and driving a olds.

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:29:06 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: twilight sentinel

In a message dated 2/19/99 12:55:50 PM EST, cshankle@home.com writes:

<< My friend wants to add the twilight sentinel to his 85 Delta 88. 
 Someone said something before about this being part of another package,
 but who remembers.. >>

Hi Brian,
It was me. I bought the unit from my Olds dealer for $72. In includes a
daytime running lights option. I hooked up my drl's to my parking lights
instead of my low beams. They stay on all day at low power (4v) and the
sensors turns the low beams on at dusk. It's a great unit and straight forward
installation.( nine wires color-coded for GM vehicles). If You can't find it,
E-mail me and I'll get you the #.
Bruce 
75 Delta 88 conv. (duals of course)

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:44:14 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@UCALGARY.CA>
Subject: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?

Since there were several web designer types in the Roll Call I thought I would
ask, is there a way to pass a JPG file name to a HTML document and have the
document display it?  This would really help me make my Olds web pages look
better.

TIA
- -- 

Cliff Simpson
mailto://csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442,400,th400,3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:23:27 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Bookmark This Please!!

I sent the boy instructions was very polite too! what does he want for me to
send the note too?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Oldsmobile <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:08 PM
Subject: ADMIN: Bookmark This Please!!


>
>We have had a lot of difficulty lately with people being troublesome when
>they want to remove themselves from the list. I know Charley Buehner has
>instructions on his web page, and now Mark Thurman has set up another page
>too.
>
>I'd suggest you point your browser there, take a look, and then bookmark
>the page for future reference.
>
>The address is: http://unsub.tsx.org
>
>Many thanks to Mark for the assist!
>
>Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:10:24 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Holley Street Dominator manifold specs?

I have both for sale (street dominator and performer). $125 each

- -----Original Message-----

>
>Hi List,
>
>I'm looking for an intake manifold for my '76 CS project. I have been
>offered a Holley Street Dominator for small block Olds. It's in another
>state, so I can't go look at it, and the current owner doesn't know much
>about it. He does say that it has an EGR block off. 
>
>Are these intakes any good? Would an Edelbrock Performer be a better
>choice?
>
>Will they work with a Q-Jet?
>
>Thanks,
>Charles
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:13:49 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: twilight sentinel

Ah, now I remember.  I think he is more interested in the lights staying
on with a timer after the car has been shut off.  I may have to get that
installed on my car, however.
Thanks
Brian.

JonKrisInc@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/19/99 12:55:50 PM EST, cshankle@home.com writes:
> 
> << My friend wants to add the twilight sentinel to his 85 Delta 88.
>  Someone said something before about this being part of another package,
>  but who remembers.. >>
> 
> Hi Brian,
> It was me. I bought the unit from my Olds dealer for $72. In includes a
> daytime running lights option. I hooked up my drl's to my parking lights
> instead of my low beams. They stay on all day at low power (4v) and the
> sensors turns the low beams on at dusk. It's a great unit and straight 
forward
> installation.( nine wires color-coded for GM vehicles). If You can't find it,
> E-mail me and I'll get you the #.
> Bruce
> 75 Delta 88 conv. (duals of course)

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:13:11 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?

I answered privately...Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:20:09 -0800
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Re: Is '72 455 Cutlass down pipe similar to 455 Buick?

>I posted a question about this before (thanks Mike and others) and was
>about to order some 90's & 45's from Torque Tech to cut and weld but they
>wondered if their 2.5" down pipe for the Buick 400-455 would fit?
>
>Their catalog states those pipes are for:   '64-87 Buick GS/Skylark,
>Century and Regal and equivalent vehicles.  (A,F and G-body Vehicles)
>
>I looked at the catalog.  Things look similar, but I'm far beyond my
>experience....
>
>I assume it wouldn't be exact, but close enough to make some small
alterations?
>
>Anybody got any facts or conjecture on this?


Your best bet to finding the answer to this is to call Meineke, or stop by.
They have a list of each pipe, and could tell you if they are identical.
They used to have a catalog the size of the yellow pages (Austin, TX
anyway.....) on all the pipes available for each car.

I had my Anodized 2.5" head/front pipes bent from the Spec sheet @ Meineke.

Steve Reed
'70 4-4-2 Ragtop
Austin, TX

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:28:10 -0800
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Body Work Book Suggestions

Hey all,
	Since Igor & Brian Ammons have been discussing body work.  I was
wondering if anyone can recommend any good books or videos on body work?  I
have worked in a body shop as a gopher when I was 15-16, and helped a little
bit with friends who have done some spectacular work, but would like to
learn more.

Steve Reed
'70 4-4-2 'Ragtop
Austin, TX

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:38:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Psychotic redhead <ellwit@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

i just bought a 74 455 4brl it is yellow, white vinyl top, tan
interior 4door and in great condition, i also have a (was) a rust
bucket 73 convertible yellow, white top and tan interior too, everyone
thought (thinks) i am crazy for having 2 cars so similar. , any advise
to stop any more rusting? my father gave me the 73 it rocks!

how'd get ahold of all those cars? 


- ---pipe  wrote:
>
> Hello everybody
> 
> My dad gave me my first car a 74 Olds 98. Been hooked since.
> 
> ?James Aiello 32yrs old
> ?Originally from Youngstown Ohio, moved to
> ?Wheaton Illinois in1986 (just west of Chicago)
> ?Not Married, Yet!
> ?Network Administrator / Graphic Artist
> ?In need of a Garage!
> 74 98 4 door 455 duel exhaust. white top, red interior and red
exterior (My
> fathers Oldsmobile)
> 74 98 4 door parts car runs great
> 70 Cutlass conv. rust bucket. front clip off. just wheels and frame
sticking
> out.
> 71-2 Cutlass shell rust free. will donate sheet metal to conv.
> 70 442 455 auto hardtop rust free, needs restoring
> 96 Dodge Ram sport 1500 4x4. trans spewed its guts last week.
thinking about
>     selling it and driving a olds.
> 
> 

==



                                     --  Psychotic Redhead   
                                        :P + :) 


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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:43:15 EST
From: R4C442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds display cabinet

Hey there Aaron!
	Call Joe Pierce at Alotta Auto Parts during the day at 1-937-866-1849 
for
answers to your display case queries.
									Ron 
Forsee
									65 
442-Meister

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:13:16 -0800
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: Convertables, was Re: *I* Like 73-77 Cutlii,

Ed Binnix wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, curious I was always under the impression that Mr. Nader's saftey
> crusade along with insurance pressures played a big part in the temporary
> death of the convertable. 
<SNIP!>
> I have never read "Unsafe At Any Speed," but I thought it covered much more 
than the
> Corvair and air bags, and that one of those things was the convertable
> issue. Please, somone on the list who has read this wonderful piece of
> American literature, set us straight.

I read the book about 6-7 years ago.  He mentioned convertibles some.  I
think there was something said about windshield posts not being enough
to protect the passengers in a convertible when it rolled over....They
needed rollbars and stronger windshields.  He was also critical of car
roofs in general, saying they weren't stiff enough.  Most of the book
was about simple things:  Recessing control knobs, making the dash and
shifter layouts logical, padding the dash, eliminating glare spots,
collapsible steerign columns, side-impact beams, seat belts.  He made it
a point that the interior of a car would often survive the crash intact,
but the occupants could not survive the interior.

A lot of the book explained how negligble automakers could be, and the
corvair was his prime example.  He alleged that Chevrolet decided to
quietly ignore the fact that they could flip in a corner with no
warning.  The design they were using was cheaper so they kept it. 
(Chevy did eventually change the design.)  He also though that styling
took precedence over function and safety.  A lot of the book did make
good sense....I don't remember seeing much of that "protect people from
themselves" mentality.

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:12:01 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Seeking Car + Parts

I have someone inquiring to purchase a 1970 - 72 Cutlass. Need not be a 442.
Must be a solid restorable car. Price open.

Still looking for an original 1967 raised louver 442 hood and a drivers side
Red inner fender for same year.

Phone or e-mail directly. Contact info below.  Thanks    Gary....

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
(518)622-0376
Couse Custom's
Route-1, Box-615
Purling, NY 12470

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
gjcouse@cc-iroc-ss.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:13:16 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: twilight sentinel

In a message dated 2/19/99 3:20:13 PM EST, cshankle@home.com writes:

<< Ah, now I remember.  I think he is more interested in the lights staying
 on with a timer after the car has been shut off.  >>

Brian,
The lights DO stay on for up to 2 minutes after car is shut off.
Bruce

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:23:38 -0800
From: "Corey Day" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Was Roll call - Calling all Web Page links 

Hey Everyone!

I would like to setup a Web page with links to the List Members "Olds"
sites.  If anyone would like to participate please send your link directly
to my address:

dayc@ix.netcom.com

Include the text "LIST LINKS" in the Subject field. Also include a sentence
or two that describes the content of the site ex. "70-72 Olds Cutlass Site"

I will followup with the URL for the page as soon as I compile the list

Thanks

Corey
dayc@ix.netcom.com

70 Cutlass S - 455

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:38:10 EST
From: Dshack4@aol.com
Subject: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

Hi, just getting ready to purchas a 71 442 W-30, but before I do, I was
wondering what you, the experts feel this car is worth, and how many they made
with these features.  It has the following features, some are standard:  Does
anyone know the value of this car???

All numbers match (VIN,block, head, intake, carb, tranny, rear)
Air conditioning
Power Bench seats
Power windows
Cruise Control
Power steering
Power brakes
Tic-Toc-Tach
All proper W-30 emblems
Red plastic inner fenderwells
3 spd auto on column

Car is in #2 condition.  All original, garage kept, no rust, no bondo. Runs
strong and shifts smooth.

Any help on this would be great, either production numbers or estimated value.

Thanks

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:39:17 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cut off tool

In a message dated 2/17/99 11:23:17 PM Central Standard Time,
mbloomer@mindspring.com writes:

<< 
 This is somewhat Olds related since I'm looking
 for this tool to work on my Olds with but I need a
 cut off tool and I can't find what I want.  Back when
 I was doing frame work I had an air cut off tool that
 used a 4"x1/8" disc w/a 1/2" hole.  It was fairly
 lightweight and had a 90 degree head on it.  It
 was a lot more versatile and controllable than the
 ones with a straight head.  I've been searching for
 someone who sells them but no luck.  All I can find
 are the straight versions or the large, bulky ones
 intended for serious grinding.  Since I just want to 
 cut in some awkward places this won't work.  Anybody
 that can give me an exact name (we always called it
 an angle grinder) or where I can find one, I would 
 greatly appreciate it.
 
 Mike Bloomer >>
  Mac tools...Part #slp3150 Price? if you have to ask...you cannot afford
it...haha

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

I paid $209 for one

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:50:49 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?

I talked to Harry and now we'd both like an answer to this.  

What I would like to do is have a single HTML page where I could go <A
HREF="Bro_Page.html pg26_27.jpg">   Bro_Page.html would have something like
<img SRC=%1> where %1 holds the passed file name (pg26_27.jpg in this case).

I don't think there is a way using straight HTML, is it possible using
JavaScript?  I'm using frames if that makes it easier/harder.

I apologize for the non-Olds posting, I'm trying to make my Olds site clean and
manageable so I can leave it alone this summer and concentrate on the car. 
Once the engine comes back then the real work starts:)
- -- 

Cliff Simpson
mailto://csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442,400,th400,3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:04:59 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Conv't Top Replacement $$

Did it turn out good??
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: RNenno@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Conv't Top Replacement $$
> Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:31 AM
> 
> We just recently paid $475 to have ours done by a professional shop.  We
> looked into doing it ourselves, but after reading the twelve + pages of
> instructions, decided it wasn't worth it.
> 
> RNENNO@AOL.COM  

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:55:44 -0000
From: "Mike Siedlik" <mjsiedl@megavision.com>
Subject: Re. Roll Call

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HI
* Mike Siedlik (Barb)
* 37 yrs old
* Owner of COLUMBUS RADIATOR INC.
 (was in the sign business for 18 yrs) trying to get the correct decals =
made for
 the 1970 Pace Car and Ralley 350 - I'm tired of seeing decals not =
fitting right !
* Columbus Nebraska
* Cars We Own
1966 442 f-85 deluxe  Trac-Pak Car (3x2 Ram Air) Restoration started, =
will be done '99
1970 Ralley 350 (looks stock, has 455, t-400,shift kit,holeshot,3:42) my =
Ralley 455
1970 Cutlass W-31 4-speed
1970 442 Indy Pace Car (body off rest. I didn't do body, paint or trans) =
969 pt. Car.
1986 Hurst/Aero, Was Barbs Insurance Car! 165,000+ miles White/dk Blue =
int.
1997 Aurora, Barbs Insurance Car (buckets) White Diamond, Loaded+spoiler =
and bra
1969 Chevy PU
1991 Chevy Sub. =20
Had: '70 442 W-30(sold to finish Pace car
        '92 Achiva SCX RED (Barbs ins. car) sold to get Aurora

*Supplier of the 1966-69 Ram Air Hoses  THE CORRECT ONES !!

*Should be hearing on the 1968 Ram Air SCOOPS-----CORRECT PLASTIC with =
BRACKETS, still working in the stainless steel moldings. This project is =
not cheap,
theres alot of trial & errors.  Correct thickness, I can even stand on =
them! This is not ABS Plastic! So stay tuned!=20
                     =20
 I'm LOOKING for 1969 SCOOPS for correct Molds  I WILL BUY THEM OR USE =
THEM AND GIVE THE PERSON FIRST SET.     You might have seen the samples =
at the OCA Nationals

I know this is long, but I don't get on very often.   THANKS  MIKE=20

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Hoses&nbsp; THE=20
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:18:06 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?

I don't think there's a way to do this.  An HTML file is just a text
file...it doesn't get "run", it gets "read".  You'd have to use something
similar to a macro in a Word document to make this work, I think.
JavaScript could handle this, I'm sure, since there is code that runs an
actual applet.  But, becuase HTML is just a text file, there are no
provisions to read arguments, like in batch files or C++ programs (to use an
example).

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?


>What I would like to do is have a single HTML page where I could go <A
>HREF="Bro_Page.html pg26_27.jpg">   Bro_Page.html would have something like
><img SRC=%1> where %1 holds the passed file name (pg26_27.jpg in this
case).
>
>I don't think there is a way using straight HTML, is it possible using
>JavaScript?  I'm using frames if that makes it easier/harder.
>
>I apologize for the non-Olds posting, I'm trying to make my Olds site clean
and
>manageable so I can leave it alone this summer and concentrate on the car.
>Once the engine comes back then the real work starts:)

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:26:41 +0000
From: John Fletcher <fletch@postmark.net>
Subject: '83 Custom Cruiser Wipers

I have a problem with the wipers on my 83 Custom Cruiser. They are on
all the time the ignition switch is on, the only way I can turn them
off is unplugging the fuse. Could this be the wiper switch?
 Thanks
John Fletcher

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:30:47 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmon@webtv.net
Subject: Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

Like to help you out,but need a little more info.what is the mileage?,
Are the front disc brakes power or manually operated?What is the trim
combination?E mail direct if you like.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:18:47 -0600
From: "CRAIG G BROUSSARD" <ABROUSSARD@prodigy.net>
Subject: [none]

subscribe oldsmobile

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:17:58 -0600
From: "CRAIG G BROUSSARD" <ABROUSSARD@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Adam Broussard
15
student
Baton Rouge, La
1962 Cutlass F-85 Convertible

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:01:08 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: twilight sentinel

Oh, I had no idea!  That is perfect.  Well, if he doesn't get them for
himself then I will certainly get them for mine.  I know the DRL's are
automatic, but is there a switch in the car for them, especially for the
timer?  How would this mount, and is it original equipment or does it
look aftermarket-like?
Brian.

JonKrisInc@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/19/99 3:20:13 PM EST, cshankle@home.com writes:
> 
> << Ah, now I remember.  I think he is more interested in the lights staying
>  on with a timer after the car has been shut off.  >>
> 
> Brian,
> The lights DO stay on for up to 2 minutes after car is shut off.
> Bruce

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:57:46 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: My Cutlass has a problem

>---Thomas Jacquillard <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net> wrote:
>> I also have a flex fan and when I step on it I get a squeal also. I
>have
>> done everything I could think of but I never thought of the fan
>causing
>> this. How could it? I am running a 68 455 in a 68 cutlass Supreme.
>> LMK, T.J.
>===============================
>Not sure why this happens. The only logical explanation I could think
>of is that the fan is trying to suck in too much air which causes a
>lot of load and the belts just can't keep up. I never had a problem
>with this before I had the flex fan and I have never found anyone else
>with the same problem until now. If you find a way to fix it, please
>let me know!!!! I was down to thinking about changing all the pulleys?
>I dunno!


An actual belt squeal is only caused by slippage.  The reason a flex
fan will squeal is due to it's design.  At higher rpm's a clutch fan 
free wheels so the only drag on the pulley is the water pump.  With
a flex fan the amount of drag goes up with rpm since the fan is pulling
more air.  In theory a flex fan is supposed to have the blades flatten
out at higher rpm's but some are made fairly stiff so they don't flatten
out enough.  Best thing to do is go back to a clutch fan as they're 
more efficient and suck up less hp.  As far as fixing the squeal you
have to check the belts for glazing in the V groove but also the pulleys
will glaze over a period of time and get a buildup from the belt slipping.
Try using some sandpaper to get the groove back down to bare 
metal and leave it slightly rough.  Has always worked for me in the
past.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:51:33 -0000
From: "Blaine Shisler" <bcbms@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Will you please take us off your mailing list!

Will you please take us off your mailing list!

thanks, 

Blaine

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:02:20 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Cut off tool

Thanks to all for pointing me in the right direction.  Now 
I just got to go chase down the tool truck!  :)

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:31:33 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: cars wanted

Hello, all. Please help. I`m looking for a clean 73 Cutlass s body. This is
the fastback 442 style for those who don`t know.  I just got the itch to start
back into my 73 HurstOlds project. I don`t really need anything but a bare
stripped solid body. But I will defitnately consider all. I would also like a
clean high optioned 73 VistaCruiser, again, I will consider all including
74-77. I would prefer something in the lower Michigan northern Ohio area, but
i do realize I can`t have everything I want, so all help will be appreciated.
Thanks.   Dennis     w451973@aol.com         BTW: please reply privately.
thanks again

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:44:48 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Will you please take us off your mailing list!

Don't do it.  Let him figure it out for himself.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Blaine Shisler
Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 2:52 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Will you please take us off your mailing list!


Will you please take us off your mailing list!

thanks, 

Blaine

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:43:50 -0500
From: Thomas Jacquillard <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net>
Subject: Re: My Cutlass has a problem

Mike Bloomer wrote:
> 
> >---Thomas Jacquillard <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net> wrote:
> >> I also have a flex fan and when I step on it I get a squeal also. I
> >have
> >> done everything I could think of but I never thought of the fan
> >causing
> >> this. How could it? I am running a 68 455 in a 68 cutlass Supreme.
> >> LMK, T.J.
> >===============================
> >Not sure why this happens. The only logical explanation I could think
> >of is that the fan is trying to suck in too much air which causes a
> >lot of load and the belts just can't keep up. I never had a problem
> >with this before I had the flex fan and I have never found anyone else
> >with the same problem until now. If you find a way to fix it, please
> >let me know!!!! I was down to thinking about changing all the pulleys?
> >I dunno!
> 
> An actual belt squeal is only caused by slippage.  The reason a flex
> fan will squeal is due to it's design.  At higher rpm's a clutch fan
> free wheels so the only drag on the pulley is the water pump.  With
> a flex fan the amount of drag goes up with rpm since the fan is pulling
> more air.  In theory a flex fan is supposed to have the blades flatten
> out at higher rpm's but some are made fairly stiff so they don't flatten
> out enough.  Best thing to do is go back to a clutch fan as they're
> more efficient and suck up less hp.  As far as fixing the squeal you
> have to check the belts for glazing in the V groove but also the pulleys
> will glaze over a period of time and get a buildup from the belt slipping.
> Try using some sandpaper to get the groove back down to bare
> metal and leave it slightly rough.  Has always worked for me in the
> past.
> 
who's got one cheap, complete set-up would be needed, mine was missing
when I bought it 4 years ago.
lmk, T.J. (TJACQUILLARD@CLDS.NET)

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:51:24 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Rare 72 HurstOlds poster

Hello, all. I have a rare 72 H\O poster that I want to sell. this is not mint.
it`s about 30 by 36 inchs. it is missing peices off each corner. I know this
is not mint, but it is very rare, so at this time I am taking offers. If I
don`t recieve any decent fair offers I will probably put it on ebay. I`m
offring this to the list members first. you can see it at:
http://members.aol.com/WMACHINES/Hurstolds.html   so take a look and email me
privately. I`ll give it a week. next friday I will decide what to do with it.
I`m not trying to make a killing. I just want a fair price. good luck and
thanks.  dennis                              w451973@aol.com
BTW: any ?s just feel free to ask. thanks 

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:57:22 -0800
From: "Andrew Conkey" <andrewc@novell.uidaho.edu>
Subject: th2004r?

Stephen,

How is that 200-4r holding up to the 455? Did you do any major 
upgrades? How long has it been behind the 455? I am 
contemplating this swap with my '84 delta 88 w/ 307. How 
difficult/expensive was the A/C swap to R134A?

thanks...

Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:07:37 -0600
From: <shang@connect.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Stephen Hoover 
Age: 24 
Dallas, Texas
1970 Cutlass Supreme 455;TH-2004R;R134A A/C

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:11:30 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?

yes there is. go to any web page with pics, and go to view source..... in
thre you will see lots of stuff, but every once in awhile youll see somthing
like "car1.jpg"
copy that with copy and paste, paste it to  your page source (in whatever
rpgoram youre using). put in the name of YOUR picture, and save the page
html.
then when you upload the changes, also upload the picture you put into the
html file. save it to the SAME folder. this way it wil display when your
page opens up.
:)
or go to my page for details......
www.frontiernet.net./~ainode

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 2:44 PM
Subject: Is there a way to pass an arg to an HTML Oldsmobile page?


>
>Since there were several web designer types in the Roll Call I thought I
would
>ask, is there a way to pass a JPG file name to a HTML document and have the
>document display it?  This would really help me make my Olds web pages look
>better.
>
>TIA
>--
>
>Cliff Simpson
>mailto://csimpson@ucalgary.ca
>'69 442,400,th400,3.31p (Kermit)
>http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:14:08 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Carb Question

> A 750c.f.m. is a little too much for a stock 350, Don't put it on. I would
> lean on about a 600 c.f.m. for cruising and low end torque.

This is an astute observation.  However, the Q-Jet is a little bit of a
different animal. Witness, for example, GM's usage of them on 307's, and
305's.  The secret is in the small primaries (smaller than the primaries in a
600 CFM Holley) which optimize low and mid range.  The secondaries are
important, as well, in the Q-Jet's applicability to engine sizes that,
according to the CFM charts, are way too small for the Q-Jet's CFM rating.
The key here is in the mechanically operated throttle and the air valve that
responds to engine demand, and is not directly linked to the secondary
throttle.  The fuel flow in the secondaries responds to air valve position,
not secondary throttle position.  These features make the secondaries, in
theory, very much like a variable-venturi carburetor.  These two things: small
primaries and the air valve secondaries, have allowed the Q-Jet's usage on a
wide variety of engine sizes.

Now, to be sure, on a 350, let alone a 307, the engine demand may never get to
a point where the secondary air valve completely opens.  But this is the
beauty of the Q-Jet: it effectively limits the carb's CFM to whatever the
engine needs.  All this assumes proper adjustment and calibration, of course.


- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:05:58 EST
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Rompin 75 Was Screen Saver Pics update

Hey Id like a pic of it anyway.  Sounds like my kinda rocket.

<< So I won't be in a screen saver (though it certainly has the
 visual appeal) ;-). >>

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:11:14 EST
From: Dshack4@aol.com
Subject: Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

Below is all the info on the car that I have.  Still don't know the complete
trim package and colors.  I need to buy myself all the necessary decoding
books.  Below is everything I got off the car.  As far as my research went,
the numbers matched all reference.  It also has the red inner fenderwells
(plastic)  I wasn't sure if the 71's had them or not.  The books say yes, but
a good friend said no!!!

Mileage is 48,000, not sure if it is 148,000, I haven't had the opportunity to
look at all the paperwork.  Looking at the great condition, I would have to
say that it is 48,000.


VIN:  344871M137445
Bock casting #:  396021 F
Heads:  letter H, 409160
Intake:  letter A, 407570, raised letters "Olds W-455"

Body Tag (as shown on the tag):

						  Body by Fischer	
				ST 71	 34487LAN269745    BDY
				TR 940	                  49   B    PNT
						 01C

Options and features:

Column 3 speed automatic
AC (ice cold!!!)
Power brakes
Power steering
Cruise control
Power windows
Power bench seat
8 Track
All the 442 options (tic-toc-tach, etc...)
W-25 hood

My biggest concerns and questions were on all the power options.  Why would
someone order a performance car like a W-30 with all the horsepower robbing
accessories???  Also, I cannot figure out the "body by Fischer" tag that I
included above.  I have been told that the lower body color should be antique
jade (#49) and the "B" is ???  The car has a black vinyl top right now.  I
have yet to find the build sheet, and I could not get the actual VIN numbers
off the block as the accessory brackets were in the way.  There was also a
numeric code on the oil fill tube, which was hard to read, but looked like
"1145100" (the last zero could have been a 6 8 or 9, it was really hard to
see.

Please, when you get the time, tell me what you think of this car, and what
you think it is worth.  The only real problem is the paint (it is red with
black stripes now).  

Thanks a million for all your time and help!!!

David

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:04:21 -0500
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

>VIN:  344871M137445

> ST 71 34487LAN269745    BDY


Oh knowledgeable ones,

Am I wrong or shouldn't the last six digits on the cowl tag and vin match?
Granted, I only have '72's now and don't recall my 71's, but something looks
odd to me!

And why would anyone order a W-30 with a column shift?

I replied to David privately with the code break down.

Randy

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:53:23 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Will you please take us off your mailing list!

These people must have A.D.D.   Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:58:18 -0800
From: "Andrew Conkey" <andrewc@novell.uidaho.edu>
Subject: roll call

O.k. what the heck... As I am now fully addicted to the list and ever 
contemplating hot rod mods to the potential hot rod I never had as 
a teenager....

Andrew Conkey

Job Captain (construction project manager) / Intern Landscape 
Architect, Architectural & Engineering Services, Facilities, 
University of Idaho

Moscow, Idaho, USA

'84 Olds Delta 88 Royale Coupe, 307/TH200c - soon to be? 85k, 
recent addition to replace the chevy, now in the doghouse due to 
tranny problems...

'79 Chevy Caprice wagon 305 2 BBL/TH350 loaded, 182k, - don't 
ask - I learned to drive on this car. I remember when the old man 
brought it home brand new. Smelling that new car smell and 
playing with the radio when young enough to have minimal concept 
of a driver's license. It's basically shot (rust-from the midwest), but 
always runs, never left me stranded, will probably grow daisies in it 
some time soon, currently serves as back-up, junk hauler, couldn't 
ask for a better car - it was free... ...hmmm maybe I should 'restify'  
it... currently uninsured, rotting in driveway for the winter...

'85 Toyota 4runner 22RE/5 speed, 162k, gutless but fun - 
removable top - the convertable I never had, makes the Olds seem 
*powerful*. Sig other's primary daily driver to drive while I get stuck 
in the driveway.... 

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:01:10 EST
From: Mackslim@aol.com
Subject: 1989-1991 OLDS 88

I was wondering if anyone could give some advice on restoring my 1989 olds 88.
What I really need is a parts source.  My e-mail address is Mackslim@aol.com.
Any help would be appreciated.  
P.S. I am currently working on the interior.
Thanks

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:09:24 -0500
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Fw: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

Don't bother replying. Another one of my misconceptions. The neighbors think
I'm nuts too. Running around at 1:00 am looking under the hoods with a
flashlight. ;)

Randy

>>VIN:  344871M137445
>
>> ST 71 34487LAN269745    BDY
>
>
>Oh knowledgeable ones,
>
>Am I wrong or shouldn't the last six digits on the cowl tag and vin match?
>Granted, I only have '72's now and don't recall my 71's, but something
looks
>odd to me!
>
>And why would anyone order a W-30 with a column shift?
>
>I replied to David privately with the code break down.
>
>Randy
>

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:12:04 EST
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: th2004r?

In a message dated 2/19/99 10:01:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
andrewc@novell.uidaho.edu writes:

<< Stephen,
 
 How is that 200-4r holding up to the 455? Did you do any major 
 upgrades? How long has it been behind the 455? I am 
 contemplating this swap with my '84 delta 88 w/ 307. How 
 difficult/expensive was the A/C swap to R134A?
 
 thanks... >>

well, im not stephen, but my dad has this exact setup in one of his '67 442s.
performer 455 with 2004r & 3.08:1 gears.  tranny is still living, but when he
first got it in there, i remember it chirping 3rd gear.  i dont know if he
adjusted th tv cable or anything, but now it doesnt chirp 3rd.  it will chirp
second still, however.  always nice firm shifts into every gear, too.  the car
isnt raced, just driven every once in a while.  just thought id add that in...
jeremy
BIGJERMES@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:13:20 -0800
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: FAQ Update

I for one have appreciated all the previous and present hard work that
David Brown has put into the FAQ's.   

Thanks Dave - hey, missed your Roll call - still Mr. Delta?


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

1966 Toronado, 1967 Delta 88 Custom, 1972 Vista Cruiser, 1972 Cutlass
Supreme Convertible

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
Subscribe To : Lisa's Classic Oldsmobile Bulletin Board Mailing List:
Lisa's Oldsmobile FREE Banner Exchange
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:25:26 EST
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: where can i find headlight fuesable links? what do they look like?

In a message dated 2/19/99 1:52:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, cngtwo@yahoo.com
writes:

<< i can't find the fuse able links for the headlights on my 84 cutlass.
 what do they look like? where are they located? such a simple thing
 headlights that just stopped working are giving me so much problems,
 it is driving me nuts. thank you
  >>
hmm.. dont think they have fusible links....   try looking at your fuses.  
jeremy
BIGJERMES@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:29:10 EST
From: Dshack4@aol.com
Subject: Rechroming bumpers...need suggestions!

Any good references on rechroming of 71 442 W-30 bumpers?  You get what you
pay for, so be honest with your quotes and personal experiences!!!  You guys
are great!

Thanks, David

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:01:17 EST
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

David,
First of all, the "B" is for a black vinyl top- and it seems correct. Given
all the other options, which weren't that uncommon to find on a performance
car,  its value is close to $9K+. Of course it hinges on what the paint and
body look like.  But sounds like a solid $9K+.  One owner I hope, if not no
big deal.  Anyone can fake a W-30 but it requires some knowledge. But the only
way to tell a true 71 W-30 is with a build sheet. If the price right -GO FOR
IT!
Dennis

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:01:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Thanks From Dr. Bob (fwd)

Dr. Bob Barry sent this in response to some of the messages to the list
that I forwarded to him. A good guy. Hope things work out for him.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
 ---- Olds List Admin Instructions found at: http://unsub.tsx.org ----

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>

Thanks for collecting those responses; it's nice being appreciated. 

I'll be beginning the appeals process next week, and it will take some time.
I don't know how it will ultimately turn out, but I'm hopefully optimistic.
I'll keep you updated. 

BTW, AFAIK I'm still reachable via e-mail; they haven't pulled the plug on
that. In the worst-case scenario, I'll have a contract for the next academic
year; unfortunately, in academia it takes at least that long to get a job.
Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Either way, I'll survive. Give the list my best, and no matter what happens,
I *will* be back!
_______________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry   MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:04:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Thanks From Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob Barry sent this in response to some of the messages to the list
that I forwarded to him. A good guy. Hope things work out for him.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>

Thanks for collecting those responses; it's nice being appreciated. 

I'll be beginning the appeals process next week, and it will take some time.
I don't know how it will ultimately turn out, but I'm hopefully optimistic.
I'll keep you updated. 

BTW, AFAIK I'm still reachable via e-mail; they haven't pulled the plug on
that. In the worst-case scenario, I'll have a contract for the next academic
year; unfortunately, in academia it takes at least that long to get a job.
Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Either way, I'll survive. Give the list my best, and no matter what happens,
I *will* be back!
_______________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry   MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:52:05 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Still need E-address assisst - Karoe@ ??

Just picked the Majordummy's brain for subscribers.

569 Oldsheads (including Dr. Barry)

Many familiar "names" that have not been heard from recently.

Hello you-all!

But not who Karl was looking for.

Looking for an address for a guy (mebbe named Kyle ??) from the Boulder,
Colorado area who was apparently lurking for a while on the digest but does
not seem to be a current subscriber.

All that can be remembered is:

Karoe@ ....

(if that is even close!)
Anyone else been in touch with him??

Thanks

K

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:22:30 -0500
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: 68 fiberglass bumpers

just recieved my bumpers from bodyparts unlimited ( tel.905-857-6345)
the quality seems ok, they need a lot of prep before they can be
painted. all in all i give them a 6 compared to other companys like U.S.
body source. they both weigh in at 5lbs. each  . I know my 442 will love
this new addition.                butch  68   442  post

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:21:03 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: FAQ Update

In a message dated 99-02-20 04:20:28 EST, you write:

<< I for one have appreciated all the previous and present hard work that
 David Brown has put into the FAQ's.   
 
 Thanks Dave - hey, missed your Roll call - still Mr. Delta?
 
 
 Lisa Madsen
 Anaheim, CA >>


I second that...thanks again Dave !!

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:41:40 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Re: Will you please take us off your mailing list!

In a message dated 2/20/99 3:09:28 AM Central Standard Time,
RARE73OLDS@aol.com writes:

> These people must have A.D.D.   Hot Rod Harry

Nope.  Just lazy.  Don't want to bother doing it themselves.


- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:39:12 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Still need E-address assisst - Karoe@ ??

Mmmmmmph.  Sounds kind of syrupy to me.  No bells, though.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: KarlAunan@aol.com <KarlAunan@aol.com>
To: Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 3:56 AM
Subject: Still need E-address assisst - Karoe@ ??


>Just picked the Majordummy's brain for subscribers.
>
>569 Oldsheads (including Dr. Barry)
>
>Many familiar "names" that have not been heard from recently.
>
>Hello you-all!
>
>But not who Karl was looking for.
>
>Looking for an address for a guy (mebbe named Kyle ??) from the Boulder,
>Colorado area who was apparently lurking for a while on the digest but does
>not seem to be a current subscriber.
>
>All that can be remembered is:
>
>Karoe@ ....
>
>(if that is even close!)
>Anyone else been in touch with him??
>
>Thanks
>
>K

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:52:39 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmon@webtv.net
Subject: Re: W-30 Production Totals, a little help here!!!

Here is the values listed in 2/99 Cars and Parts price guide 1971 442
#3@$7200
#2@$12,800
#1@$18,000                       add 40% for W 30 package.The question
becomes,Is it a W30?The only sure fire way to tell is with a build
sheet. As I stated in previous post,it must have manual front disc
brakes to be a W30 .Secondly the car is not numbers matching,block # vs.
VIN.Finally on value,as you can see above,and from description,it sounds
like car is somewhere between a #2and#3. The car like antthing else, is
worth someone is willing to pay for it. If yu like the car,buy it,but
dont let anybody bull**** you on  what the car is.there are too many
guys on this list that know what there talking about.Nice move posting
your question here.Good Luck

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