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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, February 15 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1776



Parts Wanted
ISO: Chrome Valve Covers
gas tank insulation
Re: gas tank insulation
Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale
Re: Parts Wanted
Re: Rocket? Kettering.
Re: 455 roller rocker arms
Re: Bye, gone racing
Re: Rocket? Kettering
Re: ds682 anyone ????
Need Front Right Brake Drum
Re: Cam For 330
Re: Who is Tamraz? (was Re: ds682 anyone ????)
Re: gas tank insulation
[84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?
SSI wheels
NASCAR ON DISCOVERY
Re: Part numbers
Re: SSI wheels
Re: 425 [.842"/39 degree] and 455 pushrod difference
Re: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S
Re: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S
442 vs. 844
Re: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S
Re: SSI wheels
Hurst/Olds vs. Hurst/International
Custom Olds
Re: 54 cutlass?
RWD 80 Cutli (was:Re: NASCAR Configurations)
Re: [84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?
Re: [84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?
Updated Pictures.
My Page now has pictures!
Nash Bridges
[none]
RE: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Olds sighted in Nashville
Paging Jim Zito
RE: T-Top Gaskets
Re: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?
Re: [84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?
Re: 24 Rules????  B*llsh*t !!!!!
Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale
Re: welding exhaust divider
Hood Stripes
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: Hood Stripes
Re: Rocket????
Re: what your car says about you
Re: ISO: Chrome Valve Covers
Re: ISO: Chrome Valve Covers
RE: New member, and a small prob(long)
Re: SSI wheels answered
RE: A Tale of Two Cars
Valve Cover Question
Re: tires
88 Toronado Trofeo'
Re: Part numbers, Intake Runners, Cam Bank Angle, The Spanish Inquisition
Re: Part numbers, Intake Runners, Cam Bank Angle, The Spanish Inquisition
Re: 88 Toronado Trofeo'
Re: Burnouts (TEMP SPARES)

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:37:45 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: Parts Wanted

Need for my 69 442.  Chrome shifter plate for automatic transmission
console (indicates shift pattern).  Also chrome tail light housings.
Don't need lenses or reflectors.  Chrome must be VG to excellent.
Contact me privately.  Wayne Schwartz

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:46:47 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: ISO: Chrome Valve Covers

Hey lists,

I'm a-lookin' for some chrome valve covers now, for the 330 heads.  One of
them is lookin' pretty good, and will look GREAT topped with chrome V/Cs.
Thing is, I don't know how long it'll be before these parts actually come
together as an engine, so I'm not goin' expensive here.

Does anyone have used chromies, possibly a little warn from racing or
whatever, that they'd be willin' to sell?

Thanks!

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:05:16 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmail@webtv.net (mark sopp)
Subject: gas tank insulation

i would use a roofing product called storm and ice shield.it has
adhesive on one side it is identical in appearance to the original
mateial.

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:14:03 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: gas tank insulation

> i would use a roofing product called storm and ice shield.it has
> adhesive on one side it is identical in appearance to the original
> mateial.

Where can you get that stuff?  I'm sure they don't have big supplies of
that here in Florida.  Sounds interesting.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:10:01 -0600
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale

>anyone have the paint number or a colour that is close. I have done this
>with a set of 14" chrome rims and it worked out well, but black is not hard
>to match.

Here's a clipping from a previous post, should be what you're after:


A couple of weeks ago someone asked about the gold color on their 442
wheels.  I have found a perfect match in a standard spray can so that you
don't have to buy a quart from the auto parts store.  The paint code is
GM-294 (Dupli-Color) Camel Metallic.  It comes in the standard small spray
can.

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:10:52 -0600 (CST)
From: The Great One <cujmn4@panther1.pen.eiu.edu>
Subject: Re: Parts Wanted

Olds List,
  I am looking for a tail light for a 1994 Cutlass Supreme Convertable.
It's for the passenger side if any one has one or knows at least a good
price for one let me know.
Thanks,
Joe Novak
1987 Olds Cutlass Salon
1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme Convertable
www.pen.eiu.edu/~cujmn4


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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:18:24 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rocket? Kettering.

The book Oldsmobile sent out to all OCA members for the 100th anniversary
(Setting The Pace) actually shows a prototype 1949 V-8 with "Kettering Power"
on the rocker covers and says that Olds nixed this idea and came up with
"Oldsmobile Rocket".

But Kettering did have a building named in his honor in the Olds complex in
Lansing, they also show the plaque that dedicates it.

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:17:52 -0500
From: toddmorr@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: 455 roller rocker arms

>You heard wrong.  Harland Sharp requires rocker stud holes be drilled out
>and tapped.
>Check out the Comp Cams Magnum roller tipped rocker arm ass.(part
#1-442-16)
>I think its like $250 or there abouts from Summit Racing (1-800-230-3030)
>and comes with everything u need.   Roller tip rockers, studs, hardened
>pushrods, guild plates.  Keep in mind these are not full roller as the
pivot
>point is still a ball, but the tips are roller and it provides you with
the
>ability to adjust your valve train and eliminates the stock "bridge".  I
ran
>a set of these all last year with no problems.  A simple bolt on.  Just
yank
>the valve covers and have at it.  Prob take an hour or two to do the
>install.

I installed this very kit more than a year ago.  All above is true.  I'm
quite satisfied, although I'm told for extreme use the stock size studs
aren't as strong as the 7/16 studs you'd have to drill with the Harland
Sharpe setup.  For street use and occassional Ford spankings this kit is
fine.  The directions with the kit were Chevy generic: rather than a half
turn, with Olds you need to tighten the rocker nut 3/4 to a full turn for
correct preload.  You also must use Locktite or the nuts work loose.  The
kit also works just fine with stock valve covers.

Todd Morris
71 442

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:36:33 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bye, gone racing

<<I'm complied by the junior AARP to root for Earnhardt, I'm too young for
seniors, too old for Gordon.  Kinda makes one like a teenager, not a kid but
can't drink either.>>

The posting remind me of a line from a song on a local band's debut album
(yep, I remember those, still have a lot of them):

"Older than I used to be, younger than I'm gonna be, fewer things puzzled me
then when I was young"

My wife's a die-hard #3 fan.  Me, I haven't had a favorite on the track since
4/1/93 -- still miss that guy from Wisconsin...............  Now, I'm a #7 fan
- -- the #7 is the one on Grace.  Auto Racing -- because baseball, football,
basketball and tennis all only require ONE BALL.

Take Care,
Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:01:12 -0600
From: "Charles A. Dempsey" <cdemps@lsumc.edu>
Subject: Re: Rocket? Kettering

"Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Don't know about rockets, but I know that Olds made cannons for tanks
> and tank destroyers.  The only specific one I know of is the 75mm in
> the M-24.

Hi Mike and list,

Casteele says that during WW II Olds built more than 200 different items
for the military including;

M3 75 mm and M1A1 76 mm tank and tank destroyer cannon.
M-10 tank destroyer gun tube.
20 and 37 mm cannon for P-38 and P-39 aircraft.
Crankshafts for the English Vauxhall engines used in Army field wagons.
Tank track end connectors.
B-26 bomber landing gear, cylinders, and spiders for Hamilton three 
	blade prepellers.

One photo on the lower left side of page 194 says "Oldsmobile produced a
large number of rockets which were used in a variety of applications
during the war. Here a Republic P-47 Thunderbolt was outfitted with
triple rocket launchers under each wing. The Olds-built projectiles
could be launched by bazookas and this type of weapon was very
successfully used in Southwest Pacific fighting.

The picture shows a resting P-47 with three longish tubes under each
wing. It is the only reference I know of in which Oldsmobile is said to
have made Rockets. 

Anyway, they got the name from somewhere.

Regards,
Charles

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:47:08 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: ds682 anyone ????

Hey everyone

        Year One want $132 for their's now. They have been discontinued.

Jim Chermack

At 06:06 PM 2/14/99 , you wrote:
>Year One still lists that center link in their latest catalog - $97. If
>they do not have them, Tamraz lists it for $130
>
>Stephen Hoover
>Dallas, Texas
>'70 Supreme
>
>Patton wrote:
>> 
>> List,
>> 
>>         Kristine  (67' Cutlass) has a major wobble
>> in her front end. Is the DS682 center link
>> still available from anyone - JC ???   Fusick  ???
>> 
>> Tanks
>> The General     :o{)}

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:47:00 EST
From: JRJOSEY@aol.com
Subject: Need Front Right Brake Drum

for 1963 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88.  Any suggestions, please reply by email.
Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:49:58 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cam For 330

In a message dated 2/14/99 7:30:20 PM Central Standard Time,
RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu writes:

<< 
 Cylinder bank, yes, both are 90º.
 
 Camshaft Bank Angle (measured from vertical), no, early 330's used a 45º
 CBA, while 1967 330's (reportedly) and all '68->onward Olds V-8's used a 39º
 CBA.
 _____ >>


Wrong! I have a Cutlass with a 330 and it is 39degrees. 65 400's and 425's are
45degree.

Collyn Eastham
65 Cutlass
65 442

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:53:59 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: Who is Tamraz? (was Re: ds682 anyone ????)

Tamraz's is a great supplier of Olds resto parts.
As far as I know, all they do is Cutlass/442.
I have dealt with them a few times, mostly for
small stuff, but they are very friendly people.
I live in Wisconsin, and they even offered to
meet me somewhere on their delivery route to
save me shipping on a repro ram-air hood.

Anyway- give them a call- they have a very
good catalog- not filled with many pictures or
anything, but very organized- and a lot of their
stuff is less expensive than year one.  I even
bought a few parts from them that arrived to me
still in a GM package.

They are in the Chicago area.
630-904-4500
order line: 1-800-442-4601

They will match competitors pricing too.
I don't think they have a website.

Kevin 
Dr-Olds@webtv.net
'72 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:54:46 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: gas tank insulation

Hey everyone

        We have the correct repro of the gas tank insulation. It's a 3/16
to 1/4
tar type pad. It specifically cut for these cars. They are $18.50.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts

At 09:05 PM 2/14/99 , you wrote:
>i would use a roofing product called storm and ice shield.it has
>adhesive on one side it is identical in appearance to the original
>mateial.

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:03:46 -0800 (PST)
From: carl g <cngtwo@yahoo.com>
Subject: [84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?

i just bought a 1984 cuttlas Saturday, when i was checking it out all
the lights worked fine(it was day time i did not notice the dash
lights working or not). and when i got it home i went through the
lights again and the everything was fine. i was driving the car when
it began to get dark and the headlights and dash lights would not turn
on. the turning signles and brake lights are fine. i checked all fuses
and they are fine. could it be the switch on the dash? is there
something that i am overlooking? just thought i would ask before i get
serious in to taking things apart. i have only ten days to get it
inspected and don't have much time to work on the wrong thing. any
suggestions will be greatly aprieceated.


 
 

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:07:34 -0600
From: "Tom Williams" <tjwilli@megavision.com>
Subject: SSI wheels

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:14:27 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: NASCAR ON DISCOVERY

For anyone out there now, turn on the Discovery channel if you;re into
NASCAR.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:14:06 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Part numbers

Todd

        What you have is a 57-58 J-2 Olds tri carb setup.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts

At 07:23 PM 2/14/99 , you wrote:
>I picked up a tri-power intake manifold over the weekend, but I am not
>to sure what it is for,the part number is 571145.
>I also picked up a carb to go with it( just one ) the number on it is
>7024110. I dont know if these parts are GM or not. If anyone knows what
>these parts are for please let me know,I am stumped.
>Todd Thomas
>72W30
>P.S. The manifold also has a D1 on it and the firing order 18736542.

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:16:17 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: SSI wheels

Tom

        SSI's started in 66 and went to 72. The 66-69 were all chrome, and the
70-72 were  an inch wider and used the trim ring.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts


At 10:07 PM 2/14/98 , you wrote: 
>
> I am just curious as to what years Oldsmobile used the SSI's.
> I have a set for a 1970 with the trim rings, but was wondering if they used
> them in 71 and 72.
>  
> Thanks,
> Tom

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:28:08 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: 425 [.842"/39 degree] and 455 pushrod difference

Hey all

        I just want to correct what I put out earlier. While going through
my 67
engineering documents I found that the 67 330's WERE 39 degree blocks. So that
would make it a one year item only. There is also a difference in casting
numbers. They were 64-66 381917  1, and 67 only is 394417  3. 

Jim Chermack
66 442 W-30
66 442 Race Car

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:20:54 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S

Kurt Heinrich wrote:
> 
> Was just at the store thumbing through an auto trader type mag and found
> this:
> 
> 1970 Cutlass S Rallye 350
> 4 speed, 3.71 posi, restored in '98
> W31, W27, W45 (?) A/C
> Protect-O-Plate, buildsheet
> $10,500
> 708-572-4477  Williston, ND
> 
> Anyone care to try and document a Rallye 350 W-31 and prove they really
> exist?




Although something like eleven Rallye 350's 
were alleged to have been equipped with the
W-31 package, I have to question the contradictions
with this one.  A/C was not available on a W-31.
And even though A/C was available on the Rallye 350, 
(W-45) it was not available with a 3.91 posi (I'm 
assuming that 3.71 was a typo).  3.23 was the lowest 
ratio available with A/C.  While the W-27 aluminum 
rear was available only with the W-30 and W-31 options, 
the 3.23 (Code SV) W-27 was available only on W-30's 
with A/C and TH400's.   
Would be interesting to see that build sheet.....          


Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 
Portland, Oregon  503-244-8249

Web Site:
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com

E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:44:22 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S

I guess I will call to find out...will let you know..Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:47:10 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: 442 vs. 844

"Announced in February, 1980, the International Scout "844" is designed to
offer operating economy coupled with a low initial pricce.  The "844"
translates into: 8-cylinder engine, 4-speed transmission, and 4-wheel drive.
It has an estimated 21 MPG fuel consumption.  A five year/100,000 mile
warranty package is also included."

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:55:12 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S

The number of the 70 Rallye 350/W31 has a different area code, its (630) and
its a buisness number with a recording...I will try again later, Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:59:27 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: SSI wheels

Sounds cool. Anybody got a decent set of SSI's
with trim rings for sale, at a reasonable price?
I have 15 SSIII's now and wouldn't mind a second set to change the look
every once in 
a while...

Kevin

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:03:38 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: Hurst/Olds vs. Hurst/International

"International's "Shawnee Scout" has been selected as the 1980 SCORE
official vehicle.  Announced February, 28, 1980, this model was developed in
cooperation with Hurst Performance Products as a high style street and off
road performance vehicle.  The Shawnee Scout features a unique roof and
integral roll bar, with removable roof panel.  A rear storage area is
protected by a lockable tonneau cover."

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:09:41 -0600
From: senator@mail.chorus.net
Subject: Custom Olds

Ok, I'm getting that bug again, the one that makes me want to buy a new car
and "improve" it.  The only thing different this time is that I want a
newer car.  As in late 80's and up.  My dream right now is to take a
decent, rear-wheel drive olds and see if I can wedge in a 350, along with a
bunch of minor bells/whistles.  Of course, this is mostly fantasy, and I
probably won't do it anytime soon.

Any particular models that would lend themselves to this?

Bob
'78 CS

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:15:39 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: 54 cutlass?

>> Im sorry guy's,but i don't know alot about cutlass's(i dont have one)
>> but this guy  my frand know say's he has a 54 cutlass.i did'int think
>> thay made them that fare back,and he wants me to fine him part's for 
>> it(being the olds man that i am : )
>
>1954, either a "88", a "Super 88", or a "98", no cutlass'

Not production, no; but the Cutlass name was applied to a number of
Oldsmobile Motorama show cars through the fifties. Of course, unless that
friend's friend managed to buy one of those show cars (this was before
mandatory crushing of show-cars, so some survive to this day), then he's
either got a '64 Cutlass or something, or a '54 88/98. 

Either way, maybe you should go take a look at the car; if this man's memory
is as bad as it sounds, perhaps you can convince him that he already agreed
to sell you the car for $350. ;)
- ---
Bob (takin' my official sig off this one...)

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:21:44 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: RWD 80 Cutli (was:Re: NASCAR Configurations)

For your first idea you would have to match up wheelbases, track
width, and overall length.  While you can do some mod's to make
up for an exact match on the numbers this can quickly become
more trouble than it's worth.  The other problem is that you would
have to completely cut out the entire floor, as it sits very low in the
car and you don't have room for the frame rails, and the rest of the
floor wouldn't match up to the frame contours.  Basically, more
trouble than it would be worth to do it right.

The second idea is where I would go, and have contemplated this
seriously myself and a lot of what I came up with would carry over.
First, you can do it a bit at a time to make it more affordable.
Borrowing a bit from factory cars will make parts more affordable,
and easier to find.  For instance, you could get a G body rearend
and arms, make your own crossmember and brackets to mount
the G body arms in what would be thier factory locations.  It would
kind of follow the same basics as a Pro Street tub job as far as
frame rails and crossmembers, but would have a street 4 link.
If you do the work, the materials would be very cheap.  Drive it
around with FWD and the rear axle till your ready to do the front
half of the job.  For the front, cut out the fenderwells and the struts
along with them and use A/G/F body arms and spindles with your
own frame rails that run all the way back to the rear crossmember.
Tie it all in to the rockers and you'd have a light, well handling car
that would be the ultimate sleeper.  Would be a lot easier with a
cage to stiffen everything up but can be done otherwise.  The thing
about this idea is that you can keep most of the stock floor.  The parts
you would have to modify would be the trans tunnel, and to cut
channels for the frame to go through from front to rear.  After the
padding and carpet are in, you'd never know the diff.  Let me know
and I'll send you some pics of what I'm talking about.  If you've got
the space and the metalworking tools, I figure that the chassis part
could be done for under $2K easy.  That's counting the prices for
the suspension pieces used.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

>
><< Not being the type to leave a car factory  >
>
>               This is a good topic. I have been planning to convert my 90
>Cutlass Supreme to a rear wheel drive. I think it would be neat to have a
455
>power "w" body.  I am have not won the lottery or anything ( at least i
don't
>think i have), so i will plan this out and actually do this when i get
another
>car to replace it. There is 2 lines of thought in doing this. First, find a
GM
>car with a simialar wheel base and width, and just drop the 90 body on it.
Of
>course, connecting the steering and other details would need to be worked
out.
>Plan two is have a square tube frame special for the body. I know some
circle
>track guys, so finding somebody to made a frame should not the a problem. I
>have no idea yet what kind of labor that would be . I like this idae alot.
I
>feel it would be a fun project. I don't plan to make it a Pro-street full
>blown, rac only car. I would like to keep the cars
street-able.........SCOTT

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:32:19 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?

Do the parking lights come on when you flip the switch?  If
not, then it's 90% chance it's the switch.  If they do, then it's 
a wiring problem somewhere.  It's liable to have a fuse link
in the dash somewhere but when they go out it usually takes
out the entire light system including the interior lights.  To
help track things down if it's not the switch test for voltage
on each of the fuses, and going into the switch.  You can
also jump across the switch to eliminate it or do an ohm check
across the contacts to make sure you don't have an open.
I'm just throwing out ideas here as there's no set way to track
down wiring.  

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/


>i was driving the car when
>it began to get dark and the headlights and dash lights would not turn
>on. the turning signles and brake lights are fine. i checked all fuses
>and they are fine. could it be the switch on the dash? is there
>something that i am overlooking? just thought i would ask before i get
>serious in to taking things apart. i have only ten days to get it
>inspected and don't have much time to work on the wrong thing. any
>suggestions will be greatly aprieceated.

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:42:45 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: [84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?

In a message dated 2/14/99 7:06:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, cngtwo@yahoo.com
writes:

<< i just bought a 1984 cuttlas Saturday, when i was checking it out all
 the lights worked fine(it was day time i did not notice the dash
 lights working or not). and when i got it home i went through the
 lights again and the everything was fine. i was driving the car when
 it began to get dark and the headlights and dash lights would not turn
 on. the turning signles and brake lights are fine. i checked all fuses
 and they are fine. could it be the switch on the dash? is there
 something that i am overlooking? just thought i would ask before i get
 serious in to taking things apart. i have only ten days to get it
 inspected and don't have much time to work on the wrong thing. any
 suggestions will be greatly aprieceated >>

       I had this problem in my '86 Cutlass. The VERY thin ceramic piece in
the headlight switch had cracked in half...I replaced it with a dime-a-dozen
wrrecking yard headlight switch (which I made sure WASN'T broken) and haven't
had a problem since. Dash,headlights, and interior "brightness" are of course
all controlled with the switch, so it sounds likely that is the cause. If it's
not, you aren't out a lot of money, it doesn't take but 5 minutes to change,
and you can always use a spare : )   Dorian

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:25:10 -0500
From: EJ <oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Updated Pictures.

For anyone who is interested, I updated/added some of my car pictures.

Click on the link in my signature below

EJ
- -- 
"EJ"  In Hamilton Township, New Jersey, suburb of Trenton
On digest where availabile, not regular mail
http://members.tripod.com/Olds_luvr/photoalbum/photoalbum/index.html
E-Mail: oldsluvr@bellatlantic.net
                               The "Fleet"
1979 Pontiac "Olds organ donor" Trans Am T-tops Rebuilt Olds 6.6L 403 
     4bbl-TH350 Performer Cam and Intake.....going into the Calais
     For Sale. 
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais T-Tops 5.0L 307 4bbl-TH350-2.14 gears K+N.....
     soon to be 6.6L 403 4bbl, and hopefully some better "rear" gears
1985 Olds Toronado 5.0L 307 4bbl-AOD(newly acquired Sept. 98). 
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0L 302 EFI HO-AOD-3.27 gears
     inner fender baffle removed-K+N.
1992 Ford F-250 Reg-Cab 4WD 7.5L 460 EFI-E4OD Auto-3.55 gears.
     3-inch converter-dual outlet flowmaster 3 chamber.
     Complete K+N(no more factory air-box)-ADS Super Chip-Spitfires-
     Accel Super Coil-Cap-Rotor & 8.8 wires.
1994 Toyota Camry Sedan 4-banger-(Wow we could have had a V6!)-"mili
     -liter"-AOD. K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!) 
     My SO's rider

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:36:47 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: My Page now has pictures!

okok, Finaly, my Cutlass is online!! Check out the pictures at
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/Olds442z/ and click on the 1966 Cutlass link.
Kelly Erickson
1966 Cutlass
1954 Super 88
Gutlass66@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:46:17 PST
From: "Mike Sealey" <rocket98for69@hotmail.com>
Subject: Nash Bridges

I believe '71 hemicuda convertible production was actually 7; forget
how the 4-speed to TF727 ratio broke down.

I drive a cab in San Francisco and see the Cudas regularly during
location filming.  (The TV show uses several, maybe 4 or 5.)

Bad (depending on your outlook) news: the Nash Bridges cars are all
originally 318 cars that have been converted into extremely convincing
replicas.  I guess a real one is too valuable for this.

Olds content forced in: I'm still curious as to whether the allegedly
available '64 442 4-door sedan is rarer than a real '71 hemicuda.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:53:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Victor Hernandz <d_ablo81@yahoo.com>
Subject: [none]

 I HAVE A 1981 CUTLASS SUPREME. I'M TRYING TO PUT T-TOPS. IS THERE
ANYONE SELLING SOME, AND HOW DO I GO ABOUT ON INSTALLING THEM
_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:47:43 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: Rallye 350 W-31 F/S

> 1970 Cutlass S Rallye 350
> 4 speed, 3.71 posi, restored in '98
> W31, W27, W45 (?) A/C
> Protect-O-Plate, buildsheet
> $10,500
> 708-572-4477  Williston, ND
> 
> 
This caught my eye.  Hot Rod Harry said the area code should be 630 and the
one listed is 708, but that is not Williston, ND.  630 and 708 are the
Chicago area.  Last time I checked ND was not really in the Chicago area.
Oh well.  I would be interested in what Hot Rod Harry finds out, especially
after Greg Rollin stated availability w/ and w/o certain options.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:16:00 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

I came out good on my one and only Chrysler product, the insurance company
paid me more than I could sell it for after my son totaled it.  It was a 95
Neon with air conditioning trouble and non working cruise control.  I had
tried to trade, but as you say, it is a Chrysler product and is not worth
squat a trade time.  Never again will I buy one of their vehicles.

My 1970 Olds has well over 100,000 miles and I have ran it hard, but it is
like a Timex, "takes a licking and keeps on ticking".

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:18:14 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: Olds sighted in Nashville

List,

        I almost forgot this one. Just
10 minutes into my trip to Nashville I 
caught a glimpse of a 66' Cutlass post
car - silver (pewter ?) hardtop - real
clean - looked bone stock - anyone have
an idea  ????


The General     :o{)}

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:30:12 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: Paging Jim Zito

Is Jim Zito still on the list? (jimzito@uriel.net)
Back in August he emailed me saying he wanted some parts off my 4-4-2 parts
car, but there was no hurry as he would be in Korea until Feb.  Well I
emailed him a couple days ago and it bounced back to me, unknown user.  If
you are still on the list Jim or if anyone knows his whereabouts, let me
know, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:20:01 -0500
From: Marc Leizza <mleizza@solidworks.com>
Subject: RE: T-Top Gaskets

THANKS, ILL GIVE IT A SHOT.

MARCO

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Jeff & Sherie Stanish [SMTP:stanishj@svpal.org]
	Sent:	Thursday, February 11, 1999 9:31 PM
	To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
	Subject:	Re: T-Top Gaskets

	Try PH 513-471-1409  after 6pm out of hemmings also try the
www.442.com
	and www.Hurstolds.com  and www.oldsclub.org see what you can find
out.

	On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Thomas P. Smith wrote:

	> 
	> 
	> Marc Leizza wrote:
	> 
	> > Yesterday, I asked about T-Top Gaskets for a 75 H/O and I got a
reply back
	> > saying that a place called "Kanters" should have them and that
they
	> > advertise in hemmings but I couldn't find them.  Does any one
know who and
	> > where they are????
	> 
	> I have one of their catalogs around the house here someplace, but
can't find
	> it.  It's one of Murphy's Laws.  "Any car parts catalog or
automotive
	> reference manual will be become hopelessly lost at the moment you
need it."
	> However you can find them at http://www.kanter.com  You can order
a catalog
	> from their website.  It will take a few weeks to get the catalog.
	> 
	> --
	> Thomas P. Smith
	> 1971 Cutlass S 350
	> smithtp@ix.netcom.com
	> 
	> 
	> 

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:35:50 -0600 (CST)
From: Donald B Cart <dcart@micro.ti.com>
Subject: Re: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?

 I must've missed the first part of this thread. Any advice for draining
the fluid without makink a mess ? One of the hydraulic arms seems to have
a leak and I'm thinking about replacing it. Any tricks to removing the
hoses from the hyd. arm ?

Thanks
Don
72 Cutlass Conv

- ----- Begin Included Message -----

>From oldsmobile-digest-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca  Fri Feb 12 22:56:10 1999
Return-Path: <oldsmobile-digest-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:50:56 EST
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?

Greg,
Here's what to do to refill your conv. top pump.
1. Remove the rubber plug in the side of the pump
2.  Insert a rubber hose into the hole and into a jar filled with trans fluid.
Make sure the hose stays submerged in the fluid and that it fits tightly into
the pump.
3. Run the top up and down several(5-10) times. Watch the fluid level.
4. When you're satisfied with how it works, remove the hose and allow the
fluid to run  out of the pump till it stops. The correct fluid should be at
the bottom of the fill hole.
5.  Replace the plug and enjoy the  ragtop.
Dennis 

- ----- End Included Message -----

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:01:18 PST
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [84 cut] headlights and dash lights went out?

> I was driving the car when it began to get dark and the headlights
> and dash lights would not turn on. The turn signals and brake lights
> are fine. I checked all fuses and they are fine. Could it be the
> switch on the dash?

Usually you would work your way from the outside in; the dash 
lighting gets its power from the exterior lighting circuit 
(headlamps excluded), so that if the exterior lighting fails 
(such as due to a short that blows its fuse), your dash lights 
will go out as well. The idea is that then you'll notice a 
problem and go fix it. Headlamps are on their own circuit which
is protected by a circuit breaker in the switch. There are no 
fusible links involved.

Having said all that, if neither your headlamps nor other exterior
lamps (markers, taillamps, etc.) are working, I'd home in on the
dashboard headlight switch right away, because that's about the only
part that the headlamps and everything else have in common.

If your headlamps are working but nothing else is, check the wiring
for your outside lighting first, especially inside the trunk where
exposed wiring can get damaged. At this point, though, I'd expect
to find a blown fuse in the fusebox and you said they're all fine,
so I guess I lean more towards a bad dash headlight switch here.

- -- Andy


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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:00:29 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 24 Rules????  B*llsh*t !!!!!

       AMEN!!!!!
       CARMAN442

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:08:46 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale

  I have a 1969 442 with SSII wheels. Anybody out there have a stock color #
for the grey paint?
          CARMAN442

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:20:00 -0600
From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
Subject: Re: welding exhaust divider

David Brode wrote:
> 
> To  David,
>  I think there is quite a risk in welding up the divider. Cast tends to
> crack when cooling after being welded, unless done in an oven.
> There is a water jacket under the exhaust port floor. You can cut the
> exhaust side of the head back .175" or so, which 'brings" the divider
> out flush with the rest of the exhaust flange. I've done this and it
> works
> well, although sometimes you need to slot the header/manifold holes
> and move it up, or otherwise modify the header.
> 
> I think brazing is a bit safer if you choose not to cut the head back.
> You can buy large [apx 1/4"X1/4"] "rods" of cast iron
> [for gas welding cast iron], which can be fitted and brazed into place.
> 
> Dave Brode
> 64 Cutlass
> [with exhaust side cut .175" on "C" head, crossovers poured with
> aluminum]


Dave,

 How about heliarcing?  The shop that did my crank says they'll heliarc
the center divider.  Then they'll port the exhausts to get rid of the
slag buildup and mill the exhaust-gasket mating area...for $100-125.

  Paul Brillhart

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:33:45 -0500
From: Jeff Howell <howell@bbt.com>
Subject: Hood Stripes

Can soemone tell me if original hood stripes are painted or are they a decal?
Jeff

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:35:12 EST
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

In a message dated 2/14/99 12:03:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Dan442Olds@aol.com writes:

<< I just pray that The Lord will grant me the good sense to never have
anything
 to do with Chrysler again.  I probably would have ended up in a padded room
if
 I didn't have the 442 to drive.
 Thanks,
 
 Dan442olds
 
    >>
my wife tried to talk me into getting a chrysler the last time we bought a
car. she said , hey!  look how much cheaper they are!  i said yea , and guess
how much cheaper it will resell for !      need less to say we went GM again.
steven, w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:48:38 -0800
From: "Tim Wurtz" <tropical@micron.net>
Subject: Re: Hood Stripes

Painted.........
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Howell <howell@bbt.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 7:33 AM
Subject: Hood Stripes


>Can soemone tell me if original hood stripes are painted or are they a
decal?
>Jeff
>
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:59:12 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket????

<snip>
>the term Rocket would apply to any and all Oldsmobile V-8 engines. I'm just
>glad that we don't have to refer to our powerplants as a rodent, reptile or
>an enormous mammal :-) We got a cool nickname; ROCKET! 


I once saw a Cobra eating a Rat that had Elephantitis!. Then a Rocket flew
overhead.

Omega Man
'74 Omega S 455 ROCKET!!

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:37:05 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: what your car says about you

I haven't beaten up very many people.

Omega Man
'74 Omega S
'70 Camaro




At 05:08 PM 2/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
> 
>Some of these are very true
>    
>  
>
> What Does Your Car Say About You?
> 
> Buick Park Avenue: I am older than 34 of the 50 states
> 
> Cadillac Deville: I am a very good Mary Kay Salesperson
> 
> Chevrolet Camaro: I enjoy beating up people
> 
> Chevrolet Cavalier coupe: I start 11th grade in the fall
> 
> Chevrolet Chevette: I like seeing people's reactions when I tell them I
>have a 'vette.
>
> Chevrolet Corvette: I am having a mid-life crisis
>
> Chevrolet El Camino: I am leading a militia to overthrow the government
>
> Datsun/Nissan 280Z: I have a kilo of cocaine in my wheelwell
>
> Dodge Aries: I teach third grade special education and I voted for George
Bush
>
> Dodge Durango: I will not be caught dead in a Ford Explorer
>
> Dodge Neon: I cannot stand the Macarena
>
> Ford Crown Victoria: I enjoy having people slow to 55 mph and change lanes
>when I pull up behind them
>
> Ford Explorer: I will not be caught dead in a minivan

>
> Ford Mustang 5.0: I slow down to 85 in school zones
>
> Ford Mustang 2.3: I avoid Yugos and VW microbuses at the stoplights
>
> Ford Tempo: I teach fourth grade special education and I voted for Bil
Clinton
>
> Honda Civic: I just graduated and have no credit at all
>
> Honda Accord: I lack originality and am basically a lemming
>
> Hyundai Accent: I delivered pizza for years in order to get this car
>
> Infiniti Q45: I am a physician with 17 malpractice suits pending
>
> Jaguar XJS V-12: I am so rich I will pay $60,000.00 for a car that is in
>the shop 280 days of the year
>
> Lexus LS400: I am the lawyer suing the owner of the Infiniti Q45
>
> Lincoln Navigator: I don't bother comparing gas prices
>
> Lincoln Town Car: I live for bingo and covered dish suppers
>
> Mercury Grand Marquis: I live for bridge and covered dish suppers
>
> Mercedes 600SL: I will beat you up if you ask me for an autograph
>
> Mercedes 600SEL: I have a daughter named Buffy and a son named Biff
>
> Mazda Miata: I do not fear being decapitated by an eighteen-wheeler
>
> MGB: I am dating a mechanic
>
> Nissan Altima: I don't know what it means, either
>
> Nissan 300ZX: I have yet to complete my divorce proceedings
>
> Oldsmobile Cutlass: I just stole this car and I'm going to make a
> fortune off the parts
>
> Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser: I get carsick driving minivans
>
> Oldsmobile Delta 88 Diesel: I am on the EPA's Ten Most Wanted List
>
> Plymouth Neon: I enjoy the Macarena
>
> Pontiac Trans Am: I have a switchblade in my sock
>
> Porsche 928: I am dating big-haired women who would otherwise be
> inaccessable to me
>
> Range Rover: I do not care about J.D. Powers or his surveys
>
> Rolls Royce Silver Shadow: I think Maggie Thatcher is a touch too Whig
for me
>
> Saturn SL1: I hope someday to make it to a gathering in Spring Hill
>
> Saturn SL2: I made it to a gathering in Spring Hill
>
> Volkswagen Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns
>
> Volkswagen Jetta: I enjoy putting out engine fires
>
> Volkswagen Microbus: I am tripping right now
>
> Volkswagen New Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns
>
> Volvo 740 Wagon: I am afraid of my wife
>
>
>
>&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;& Noelle
>&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;'66 Cutlass ( still for sale )
>
>
> 
>
> 

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:44:40 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: ISO: Chrome Valve Covers

Jason Adcock wrote:
> 
> Hey lists,
> 
> I'm a-lookin' for some chrome valve covers now, for the 330 heads.  One of
> them is lookin' pretty good, and will look GREAT topped with chrome V/Cs.
> Thing is, I don't know how long it'll be before these parts actually come
> together as an engine, so I'm not goin' expensive here.
> 
> Does anyone have used chromies, possibly a little warn from racing or
> whatever, that they'd be willin' to sell?

Are the covers for 330 heads the same as 350/455 heads?  If so then this is for
sale on eBay:
"Chrome V8 oil pan and valve covers for 350-455 Olds. Aftermarket pieces in
good used condition - although not perfect. Would be perfect for someone
building a race motor where perfect chrome is not important. The two pictures
show the two valve covers and the oil pan. Note the splash baffle in the pan
and the clearance humps in the pan (ie. will fit a 455). Package price includes
two valve covers and one oil pan. (Please note - these are not perfect, but
very usable and should sell cheap - no reserve.) Shipping cost $10"

Currently at $27.50 + $10.00 shipping.
- -- 

Cliff Simpson
mailto://csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442,400,th400,3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:49:30 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: ISO: Chrome Valve Covers

Yep, they're the same, and in fact, someone's selling some Moroso ones, just
the valve covers; current bidding is at somethin' like 12 bucks.  I was just
tryin' to see if someone on the list here has got them, so I didn't have to
mess with watchin' the bidding.  :-)

Thanks.

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: ISO: Chrome Valve Covers


>Are the covers for 330 heads the same as 350/455 heads?  If so then this is
for
>sale on eBay: ...

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:08:09 -0600
From: Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com
Subject: RE: New member, and a small prob(long)

Your loose steering can be fixed by removing the steering box and having
it reworked (about 200$).

Mickey
'68 Cutlass "S" 350 Convertible

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ben Markert [SMTP:radu@ciris.net]
> Sent:	Saturday, February 13, 1999 1:21 PM
> To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject:	New member, and a small prob(long)
> 
> Hello to all, I thought I might as well introduce myself. I'm new to
> this
> list, but not mailing lists, I was part of an AMC list for the better
> part
> of almost 2 years. Im a 17 year old from South Texas, and I drive a
> '68
> Cutlass "S", all original, with new seat upholstery. I bought it for
> $700
> from a guy my dad works with. I love this car! The loose power
> steering is
> something to get used to though. I have a small question about this
> car.
> The brakes on it, the pedal sinks a little less then halfway before
> the
> brakes grab. I have replaced the master cylinder/power booster because
> both
> were bad. Before I did, it had barely any pedal, and I was scared to
> drive
> it on the freeway. Im still kinda wondering about the brakes, even
> though
> my dad tried to assure me that Oldsmobiles never have great brakes by
> telling me the pedal on his '66 4-4-2(does anybody know EXACTLY what
> Olds
> meant that to stand for?????) was never really there. Im skeptical
> about
> this. Could someone tell me what the problem, if any, is? I have bled
> this
> system about 30 times. Also theres a small pipe coming off the exhaust
> that
> connects to the aircleaner, for whatever reason. Could someone tell me
> what
> that is for, and do I need it? I have some heads from a '70 4-4-2,
> that
> have original Micky Thompson valve covers, and I want to use them(the
> heads
> are from a 350), but they are too tall to fit under the pipe running
> from
> the exhaust to the aircleaner. She still has the original 310HP
> 350-4bbl,
> but the original automatic was blown up and replaced by a turbo-350.
> Also
> if its not too much trouble could someone give me the torque rating
> for
> this engine? Thank you all, and I hope I have a good time on this
> mailing list.
> 
> Ben Markert, aka Lord Radu Lykan
> 
> '68 Cutlass "S" 350, 4bbl, auto: Lila
> 
> THM homepage - http://www.geocities.com/SilconValley/Park/5290
> 
> The Xena Page - htpp://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2050
> 
> emails: radu@ciris.net , radu16@hotmail.com

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:08:32 EST
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: SSI wheels answered

 tom   jeff in atl,Ga  haven't seen your name on in a while  yes ss 1 wheels
used 67-72..

jeff

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:24:14 -0600
From: Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com
Subject: RE: A Tale of Two Cars

we own 2 new Toyotas (yeah, I know....Japanese) and 1 Oldsmobile ('68
Cutlass).........

I can't recommend any new American car over a Toyota or Honda..........

my dad has 2 Buicks which are both a piece of cr@p - he's redeemed by
the '69 Lemans convertible in the third garage

if you have to buy new............japanese are still better

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Igor T. '81 DRB 455 [SMTP:igor455@home.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, February 14, 1999 2:03 AM
> To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject:	Re: A Tale of Two Cars
> 
> 
> >Today is a great day in my life.  I finally got rid of my 1994
> Chrysler
> >Concord.  In September 1993 I bought it and my sister bought a 1994
> Cutlass.
> >Her car still runs great and aside from oil changes, only a wire that
> shorted
> >out and kept the transmission in low gear has been the only trip to
> the
> shop.
> >It has over 110,000 miles on it.  Still runs like new.
> 
> Been there, still there, have same problems.  My dad has a '95
> Intrepid with
> almost 60,000 miles on it.  It is a 3.3L.  Aside from TONS of annoying
> rattles, cheap plastic, no soundproofing, etc, etc, the tranny in the
> car is
> no good.  No extended warranty though, so that is a problem now.  The
> local
> shop said $2000 CAN to rebuild and "modify" the trans.  Dodge dealer
> is no
> way as they are jerks.  As for the motor, no problems yet.  It runs
> great.
> I just changed the water pump (minor leak) but other then that, I like
> it.
> It has no torque (nothing like the 455, not even like the 307) but
> that is
> okay as it is well geared for a family car.  It is sad because my dad
> uses
> my '81 Regency with more then 250,000 KMs on the odo (and all
> original) to
> go on high-way trips as his trans starts to slip terribly after 5 or 6
> hours
> on the high-way.  The '81 98 is propane powered so he gets a better
> ride,
> more room and BETTER fuel economy.  I only paid $1500 bucks for this
> car
> with great body, great motor and everything else.  Can't keep a good
> olds
> down.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:27:32 -0000
From: "dayc" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Valve Cover Question

>This weekend I attended the 50th National Roadster at the Cow Palace in San
>Francisco, not very many Olds machines but I did find several Olds
>powerplants.  On one I noticed some Edelbrock valve covers that had a
finned
>top with the Edelbrock name on it and "OLDS" in a circle.  Are these
>available anymore?
>
>I also scored a Johnny Lightning version of Joe Schubeck's Hurst Hairy Olds
>quite cool - http://www.johnnylightning.com/showstoppers/showstoppers2.html
>
>Corey Day
>dayc@ix.netcom.com
>www.netcom.com/~dayc/
>70 Cutlass - 455
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:31:04 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: tires

>>
1) B.F. Goodrich Radial T/A RWL vs. Goodyear Eagle GT ROWL
<<

Yeah, that's the way it is around here sometimes, too, although not as
harsh.  I got a reduction for no fire extinguisher...not sure about the
tires, though.  Does anyone know what tires (brand, style) came on my car
originally?  They're listed on the window sticker as:

"QHW TIRES P205/70R14 SB RAD W/LTR 146.00"

I see there thay they're white letter tires, but were they Firestones or
Goodyears, or what?  RWL or ROWL?  FWIW, this is on a 1984 Cutlass Calais w/
F41.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!  :-)

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:12:10 -0500
From: Marc Leizza <mleizza@solidworks.com>
Subject: 88 Toronado Trofeo'

I have no use for these any more since my Trofeo' was stolen.


For sale:
1988 Toronado Trofeo' owners manual and Rear view Mirror with light sensor.

Best offer for each or both

Marco

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:29:36 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Part numbers, Intake Runners, Cam Bank Angle, The Spanish 
Inquisition

Hope Y'all can bear with, only time for one post.

> 571145.
>  I also picked up a carb to go with it( just one ) the number on it is
>  7024110. I dont know if these parts are GM or not. If anyone knows what
>  these parts are for please let me know,I am stumped.
>  Todd Thomas
>  72W30
>  P.S. The manifold also has a D1 on it and the firing order 18736542.

Todd,
No question it is a J-2 intake.
Odd coincidence: the carb application # that you have (from a 283 Ch*tty) is
exactly the same one that Karl has nearly completed rebuilding (won't be
complete untill the proper jets are aquired). Yes it is a good carb to use as
center carb, but some explaining first....

(and a pizza to check on...)
(and Karl needs beer....)

The J-2 intake fits 371cid blocks and 1957-58 heads ONLY. Have heard of it
being ~adapted~ for similar applications, but Karl is reluctant to perform
non-reversible operations on antiques. 

The J-2 intake is a dual-plane intake that used a vacuum-actuated linkage. The
center carb provided all idle and off-idle. At a centre carb throttle plate
angle of something like 68' (degrees) the vacuum linkage would actuate, and
open the end carbs, which operate at WOT only.

The linkage, if complete, is worth more than the bare intake, but probably not
as much as a set of correct end carburetors. Not to mention air cleaners, or
correct Air cleaner shroud (covered all three).

Scared you yet?

Good news:
Rebuid kits for your carb are still available.
Karl is using a rebuild kit from BFIC (in CA) (818) 841-7887
Have the application code ready.

Use of vacc linkage is realistically out of the question.

However, the use of three carbs with mechanical linkage is not out of the
question.
As you have noticed, the intake runners are closest to the end carbs.
Intuitively (for Karl anyway) this makes it more sensible to make the end
carbs (of three idle-contributing carbs) the major suppliers of fuel/air at
idle, especially at cold start. [objections welcome!] Only problem is that 2G
jets are not easy to come by, especially for odd-ball applications like
modified J-2 intakes. Karl has part #s and sizes for ~correct~ carbs and jet
sizes (separate publication from manual mentioned below) but does not now have
time to search for same.

Karl has a 1958 Shop Manual and has faxable (or mail-able) photocopies of
pertinent carb & intake pages. Please contact privately, Email address listed
in footer.

So, basically, use of the J-2 intake is planning a hot-rod.

Karl had planned on use of the resultant 371 in a 1961-4 F-85 (light car, more
zip!), but there will apparently still be a motor mount problem. Have heard
from good sources (on this list) that pre-65 motors are harder to install in
1965-on cars than the reverse operation.

But am still gonna try for a 62 F-85.

Good Luck!

Whoops, no time for the other subjects, on to part II !

SOM

&KA

KarlAunan@aol.com (for now)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/index.html

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:49:39 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Part numbers, Intake Runners, Cam Bank Angle, The Spanish 
Inquisition

OK..... part II

More tech stuff.

Karl has a BB intake from a '76 Delta.
Intake runners are 2.28" x 1.22" at exit.
Area is 2.78"

J-2 intake is 1.88" x 1.19"
Area is approx 2.23"

Curious to know if anyone has numbers for 330, 350, 307 (A4 and A5), and even
400.

Speaking of which, J.C., ....

So 1966 "B" blocks were 39' blocks?
Or only for 1965 400cid "B" blocks?
Or was "B" a 1965-only block?

Also: Karl ~DID~ see a "1A" block in an F-85 at last years Olds Homecoming.
Can anyone verify years this was available?
No sources have yet confirmed, (owner was not seen).

But then Karl saw a "5" block in a 1965 4 4 2 whose placard said "400cid...."

Anyone?

SOM

&KA

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:58:55 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: 88 Toronado Trofeo'

Marco,

About your rear view mirror with light sensor...is that the kind that dims
automatically with headlights from the rear?  If so, how does it mount to
the windshield, just with glue, or is it mounted to the roof somehow?  Also,
do you know what kind of hookups it requires?  It'd be very interested in
retro-fitting it into my '84 Calais (RWD) if it only requires a power hookup
to work.

Thanks, Marco!

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Marc Leizza <mleizza@solidworks.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 1:22 PM
Subject: 88 Toronado Trofeo'


>I have no use for these any more since my Trofeo' was stolen.
>
>
>For sale:
>1988 Toronado Trofeo' owners manual and Rear view Mirror with light sensor.
>
>Best offer for each or both
>
>Marco

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:58:03 -0800
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Re: Burnouts (TEMP SPARES)

>Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:07:46 -0700
>From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
>Subject: Burnouts (TEMP SPARES)

>Me and a couple of my friends put a set of temp spares on a '86 Cutlass and
>tried a bunch of burn-out.  MAN, did they ever smoke.  We left a 50 foot
>THICK line (one only, though) with the little 305 which can't really spin
>the tires even a bit with stock 205/75/14s.  TONS of smoke.  We did it in a
>mall parking-lot, on a deserted part.  Had a few people (guys in nice
>trucks) show up and comment about it.  Never saw much use for those cheap
>spares, but I guess I have found their true meaning.  It was awesome.  I
>would be scared of putting those pizza-cutters on my 455 Delta.  With the
>posi, we could get awesome smoke, but might blow the engine.

This reminds me of when I was 16 and working @ Meineke in the afternoons
after High School.  There was this '70's Impala which had the rear brakes
wasted, needed everything.  So the rear shoes, springs, etc... were
disassembled, waiting for parts to arrive.  They never came in that day, and
for some reason instead of keeping the car inside the building that night it
was stored outside.  Well the guy that drove it out there backed it up,
dropped it in drive and Power-Braked (Mind you just the fronts were working
anyway) and proceeded to smoke the ENTIRE parking lot, until a ~BANG~.
everyone went running out (Trying not to laugh too hard) and the guy had
smoked the tires so bad, one of them blew!.  Man that was one of the
funniest moments I can recall.

Just thought I'd share the humor


Steve Reed
'70 4-4-2 'Ragtop
Austin, TX

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