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oldsmobile-digest      Friday, January 15 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1718



all wheel drive Olds?
9000 rpm Olds
Snow on roofs
Re: Coil Ground Answers!
Re: 9000 rpm Olds
Re: You're kidding, right
Re: all wheel drive Olds?
Re: You're kidding, right
RE: You're kidding, right
RE: You're kidding, right
Re: You're kidding, right
Water, water everywhere
RE: You're kidding, right
daily drivers..(was restored vs beaters)
carb spacer..
Weather
RE: You're kidding, right
Re: Weather
Re: '94 Cutlass Timing Chain
Rear-End Experts, here is one for ya!!
Re: You're kidding, right
Re: all wheel drive Olds?
Re: WANTED: Oldsmobile Commercial (fwd)
speedo error
Re: 79 98 Transmission
Re: Rear-End Experts, here is one for ya!!
Re: Weather
Re: speedo error
Re: speedo error
RE: You're kidding, right
Re: SCREEN SAVER
RE: SCREEN SAVER
Re: speedo error
RE: Weather
4X4 olds
Re: kidding, multi cut's
Re: kidding, multi cut's
Re: 79 98 Transmission
307 and a 700-r4
Trailer "Queens" (Was beater..)
Reclinig bucket seats for Cutlass"S"
RE: You're kidding, right
47 Olds info
Big Car Question-'65 98 wheelcovers
Edelbrock Victor
RE: Big Car Question-'65 98 wheelcovers
Good For Greg & His Trailered Car
Re: speedo error
Stocks, Bonds and Mutual Funds Are BORING...
UNBOUNCE: '76 Delta For Sale
UNBOUNCE: 307 and a 700-r4
UNBOUNCE: 47 Olds info
Re: Rear-End Experts, here is one for ya!!
RE: WANTED: Oldsmobile Commercial (fwd)
Resto shop in Cleveland
RE: carb spacer..
Paging Andrew Green
Chicago area Oldsmonuts
Re: Water, water everywhere
Robert-Shaw Thermo?
RE: Robert-Shaw Thermo?
Price for Delta 88 Wagon
RE: speedo error
SV: Weather
Re: Price for Delta 88 Wagon
Batten Vs. Edelbrock Heads

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:02:16 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: all wheel drive Olds?

How hard would it be to make an all wheel drive Delta? Has anyone ever
modified an Olds to FWD? Just curious. It would be great in the snow!
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv. (duals of course)

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:24:04 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: 9000 rpm Olds

Last night on speed channel, I was watching off shore racing.  The
commentator was talking to a racer about their new engine combination and
how the racer was planning to go for a new record for of shore boats in the
flying kilometer.  Now just for a quick point, most of these boats run twin
454 chevies with blowers, or real built 350 chebies.  The racer said that
he has switched to the new OLDSMOBILE engine, that is revving to 9000 rpm's
and will allow him a top speed of 180 mph.  
Has anyone any info on this new type of OLDS motor. Like what size is it or
how it stays together at 9000 rpm's.  Did anyone else see the show from the
beginning and know more?


Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:30:35 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Snow on roofs

Just a reminder to those unfortunate people without garages and storing
their convertibles outdoors.

The roof of a convertible can crush with the weight of snow.  A friend lost
his roof and interior pieces when his roof caved in last year.  There had
been a heavy snow fall and when he went to work the next day he noticed a
much flatter pile on the car.  There was only 2 feet on the roof when it
caved.  So with the beautiful storm as us northerners are having, remember
to brush the roof of that rag top off once and a while.

Later guys

Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:24:29 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Coil Ground Answers!

Hang on a sec!
 
 >    The coil case does not have to be grounded, if this would be the case,
 > you would get shocked every time you touch the coil housing when the
 > engine is running.  The grounding is handled by the ignition module.

When was the last time you got a shock from touching your engine block while
it was running? Or is HEI so very different from points systems that
superhuman Karl has the sheer will to fully grasp his oil filler cap (which
MUST be at ground as the oil on the filler tube creates a capacitance effect
to correct for any loss in conductivity) and remove it while the engine is
running?

I do agree that a coil case should not need to be grounded. Factory coil was
vound to block by a metal band, but case was a primitive plastic coating.
Current Super Coil is a modern plastic coating. If these needn't be at
ground....

Still wondering about that "shock" comment......

SOM

&KA

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:22:09 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 9000 rpm Olds

Bob,

I would bet it is an Aurora V8 derivative.  Quite successful in the IRL the
last few seasons.

Regards,
Fred

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 2:19 PM
Subject: 9000 rpm Olds


>Last night on speed channel, I was watching off shore racing.  The
>commentator was talking to a racer about their new engine combination and
>how the racer was planning to go for a new record for of shore boats in the
>flying kilometer.  Now just for a quick point, most of these boats run twin
>454 chevies with blowers, or real built 350 chebies.  The racer said that
>he has switched to the new OLDSMOBILE engine, that is revving to 9000 rpm's
>and will allow him a top speed of 180 mph.
>Has anyone any info on this new type of OLDS motor. Like what size is it or
>how it stays together at 9000 rpm's.  Did anyone else see the show from the
>beginning and know more?
>
>
>Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
>Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:30:45 -0500
From: tchurchill@draper.com (Timothy A. Churchill)
Subject: Re: You're kidding, right

Chris Smetana is Mad as Heck:

> I hopped on the interstate on my way to work today, and shortly after
> driving (a few miles) I noticed on one of the houses that sets along the
> interstate and is accessible by like a Frontage Rd. or similar a 79 or 80
> Cutlass resting on a 4x4 chassis.  I thought, man that's wrong.  Why did you
> do that.

Because this is 'Murrica, and you still do pretty much what you want,
regardless of what the nay-sayers claim... seriously, i've seen 4wd G-Bodies
before.  At least 2 here in the Commonwealth.

I wonder.  In Indiana, would the beastie have to meet emissions for a Cutlass,
or for whatever the drivetrain& 4x4 frame came from?  In MA, it would be exempt
anyway because it's over 15 years old.

I dunno how wrong it is; it could be that whoever's doing this saved the
Cutlass body from the crusher.  All I know is, driving down the beaches,
chasing schools of stripers & bluefish, a 4x4 Cutlass would be a helluva
lot classier ride than what I see these days (read:  Subarus, Pathfinders,
4Runners, etc.)



Tim Churchill  tchurchill@draper.com  OCA #30327  Framingham, MA
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
'67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible, a.k.a. 'Big Red'
'89 Cadillac Fleetwood, new a.k.a 'Old Gold'
'98 VW Passat GLS Wagon, a.k.a. 'der Kinderwagen'

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:33:54 -0500
From: tchurchill@draper.com (Timothy A. Churchill)
Subject: Re: all wheel drive Olds?

Bruce asks:

> How hard would it be to make an all wheel drive Delta? Has anyone ever
> modified an Olds to FWD? Just curious. It would be great in the snow!

Yeah, they're called Bravadas nowadays, but the first one was called the
Hurst Hairy Olds :)

Wow, first Chris S., then Bruce.  Apparently, in winter, a young man's
thoughts turn to 4x4 Oldses... 




Tim Churchill  tchurchill@draper.com  OCA #30327  Framingham, MA
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
'67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible, a.k.a. 'Big Red'
'89 Cadillac Fleetwood, new a.k.a 'Old Gold'
'98 VW Passat GLS Wagon, a.k.a. 'der Kinderwagen'

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:28:53 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Re: You're kidding, right

For what it's worth, I think any non-standard body on a 4x4 is great.  I built 
a
'71 Br*nco with an '82 EXP body just because I could.  I understand why the
dessecration of an Olds might upset you, but for the most part, its a rather 
fun
project.  I have a friend with a Falcon on a Jeep chassis and another buddy of
mine has a monster hearse.  Its not for everyone, but its fun!

Dan Gerow
'69 4-4-2
'71 Cutlass Supreme

- --
- ---------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
- ---------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:42:52 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: You're kidding, right

> Chris Smetana is Mad as Heck:
Well, not really, just amazed at what people do some times.

> I wonder.  In Indiana, would the beastie have to meet emissions for a
> Cutlass,
> or for whatever the drivetrain& 4x4 frame came from?  In MA, it would be 
Umm, nothing.  There is no emissions testing in the Terre Haute area that I
know of.  The only part of IN that may have emissions testing is the NW,
since it's near Chicago, but I really don't know.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:51:01 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: You're kidding, right

> For what it's worth, I think any non-standard body on a 4x4 is great.  I
> built a
> '71 Br*nco with an '82 EXP body just because I could.  I understand why
> the
> dessecration of an Olds might upset you, but for the most part, its a
> rather fun
> project.  I have a friend with a Falcon on a Jeep chassis and another
> buddy 
> 
hmmm, I wonder....   If putting a car body on a 4x4 chassis is a cool
project for some, would putting a pickup down in the weeds (ie lowering it)
so it's stance is that of a car be considered the opposite?  Hmmm,  Yeah, I
know   'Get a life Chris'     Well, it is a rather slow day here at work.
> of
> mine has a monster hearse.  Its not for everyone, but its fun!
> 
now a monster hearse, that would be cool!!!

(on a more serious note)
Sorry to hear about the car Dan, but you're right, good thing no one was
hurt.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:55:36 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Re: You're kidding, right

> hmmm, I wonder....   If putting a car body on a 4x4 chassis is a cool
> project for some, would putting a pickup down in the weeds (ie lowering it)
> so it's stance is that of a car be considered the opposite?

Well, if you ask me, you can take all your lowered S-10's, C*ivic's, and
anything else short of a '49 Merc and drive off into oblivion.  Personally
higher is better.  But what do I know?  :)

> (on a more serious note)
> Sorry to hear about the car Dan, but you're right, good thing no one was
> hurt.

Thanks Chris, I appreciate it.  It happens and I'll deal.  Oh well.

- --
- ---------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
- ---------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:04:43 -0800
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: Water, water everywhere

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entire
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part of the  firewall,  behind the dash.  Any suggestions on a quick fix
until the weather breaks here in Washington would be greatly appreciated. 
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						Paul & Noelle
						66 F-85
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:07:00 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: RE: You're kidding, right

Since everyones seems to be on this one at the moment, I guess I could
share an idea I've been planning for awhile. I've got 2 '79 Jeep Wagoneer
frames that I'm gonna stack and weld together. I'll mount the drive train
in the bottom and the body on the top. I'm still searching for a donor car
body. Has to be 108 in wheelbase and so far the best I've come up with
would be a 70-81 camaro body. I couldn't butcher an Olds and a Nova and
Chevelle is to long. It's gonna be a real wild....uh oh....I-feel- the
...convultions..--starting ........dlsjoia a 
s[i], [a$^#)( _)_dsdac;dipojig[gp,sg]s.g

Ed
omega man




At 02:51 PM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, I think any non-standard body on a 4x4 is great.  I
>> built a
>> '71 Br*nco with an '82 EXP body just because I could.  I understand why
>> the
>> dessecration of an Olds might upset you, but for the most part, its a
>> rather fun
>> project.  I have a friend with a Falcon on a Jeep chassis and another
>> buddy 
>> 
>hmmm, I wonder....   If putting a car body on a 4x4 chassis is a cool
>project for some, would putting a pickup down in the weeds (ie lowering it)
>so it's stance is that of a car be considered the opposite?  Hmmm,  Yeah, I
>know   'Get a life Chris'     Well, it is a rather slow day here at work.
>> of
>> mine has a monster hearse.  Its not for everyone, but its fun!
>> 
>now a monster hearse, that would be cool!!!
>
>(on a more serious note)
>Sorry to hear about the car Dan, but you're right, good thing no one was
>hurt.
>
>Chris Smetana
>Terre Haute, IN
>http://www.abcs.com/chris/
>
>1969 W-31
>1969 4-4-2 parts car
>plus others
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:08 
From: "John Carri" <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: daily drivers..(was restored vs beaters)

> Eric (big_olds@hotmail.com) said " When's the last time you seen a > 
> Satellite or Camaro or Charger getting out on the highway monday
> morning at 6:00 AM???? 
> Doesn't often happen....

   My first car was a '74 Satelllite Custom 4-door that I bought in
1990  (I was 26 years old and had just got to the USA from India for 
graduate study, cars are expensive in India and I had never owned one 
nor even learnt to drive!). It was my daily driver until about 1994, 
when the 318 V8 needed a rebuild and I couldn't scrape together the 
money.  In 1992 I bought my '73 Road Runner (340 V8) that took over as 
my daily driver after I had to sell my Satellite. 

   Today my Road Runner awaits a much needed front-end rebuild while I 
drive my '72 Supreme to work every day.

   Doesn't make a difference what brand of car you like, if you enjoy 
driving it, don't leave it sitting in splendour in your garage, drive 
it and enjoy it!

   By the way when I took the heads off my 318 at 140,000 miles not 
only was there NO bore ridge, but you could still see the original 
factory 1974 cross-hatching in the cylinder bores. Mopar small blocks 
all use high-nickel iron, just like the good Olds blocks do!


- -John Carri
'72 Supreme
'73 Plymouth Road Runner

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:50 
From: "John Carri" <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: carb spacer..

   In addition to all the info provided by Joe Padavano and others, 
one of David Vizard's two "How to build horsepower" books points out 
that on most dual-plane manifolds the engine never sees more than half 
the carburetor cfm available at any one time, due to the divided 
manifold. Adding a single-hole spacer on top of a dual-plane manifold 
in effect lets the engine see both halves of the carburetor, 
increasing its apparent cfm.

   BTW, those two David Vizard books are about the best I've seen - 
every fact he mentions is documented with a dyno test or other 
objective measurement. None of this "I believe chewing gum on the 
thrust bearing will make your engine live longer because I've always 
done it that way" stuff.

- -John Carri
'72 Supreme
'73 Plymouth Road Runner

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:49:39 -0500
From: "R. Grant" <kgrant442@home.com>
Subject: Weather

Well here we go again Toronto is getting hit with another winter storm
We've had about 3 feet of snow 90cm since the 2nd of Jan. With another 20cm
or about 8"-10" of snow before Fri morning.
This is like a bad dream. We usually only get about 14" of snow in all of
Jan.
I looking forward to the end of march to send my Cutlass out to get a new
Tranie for the Posi and 3.73 gears that I had installed in the fall.

Still dreaming of spring
Kevin Grant
80 Cutlass Supreme
Brampton, Ont. Canada

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:04:56 PST
From: "scott slater" <slater442w30@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: You're kidding, right

Well I can't really say it's a sin as long as they didn't hack up a 
super nice car.  I own a 79 Cutlass supreme and I can tell you they are 
very far from rare but I still pamper mine.  I think it is a cool idea.  
My dream which I will attempt is a 1970 Vista Cruiser on a Chxvy truck 
chassis that will fit and I will add a 455 OLDS and 1 ton axles.  I also 
plan on 44 inch boggers (if you're going to build something wild might 
as well go all out huh?).  The car will either be painted bright yellow 
or the Hurst Olds wagon paint scheme.  For all you out there who care 
don't worry this project will be made out of a highly rusted and 
otherwise unuseful Oldsmobile and any really nice parts will go on my 
restored Vista Cruiser which I will also have some day.    P.S. if the 
car is yellow I will definitely keep the wood so the boys in their 
little pathetic Toyota trucks can say "I don't know what pulled me out 
but it had wood on the sides"

Well I hope I didn't offend anyone out there



Scott Slater
70 Cutlass Supreme
78 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:16:12 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Weather

And in Calgary it's +6C (43F) with a SW wind at 46KPH (29MPH).  That's a
Chinook by anyone's definition:)).  Since this morning the hills have gone from
white to almost all brown.

By tomorrow it will be spring cruising weather.  Hmmm, time to check and see
how the machine shop is doing on the 455.

"R. Grant" wrote:
> 
> Well here we go again Toronto is getting hit with another winter storm
> We've had about 3 feet of snow 90cm since the 2nd of Jan. With another 20cm
> or about 8"-10" of snow before Fri morning.
> This is like a bad dream. We usually only get about 14" of snow in all of
> Jan.
> I looking forward to the end of march to send my Cutlass out to get a new
> Tranie for the Posi and 3.73 gears that I had installed in the fall.
- -- 

Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit) (soon to be a 455 :)
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:22:28 EST
From: dpauliso@juno.com (Dave Paulison)
Subject: Re: '94 Cutlass Timing Chain

Is it a chain or a belt?  If it's a chain, it probably should've gone
longer without breaking.  If it's a belt, you went about 20,000 miles
over the recommended replacement interval (every 60,000 miles).

Dave Paulison       1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
Palm Bay, Florida   1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
dpauliso@juno.com

On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:04:41 -0500 (EST) The Viking <avar@infinet.com>
writes:
>
>Ugh.. no start.. tow to dealer ... timing chain is shot after 80,000 
>miles,
>Does anyone think this is unusual or should I complain to the dealer 
>to 
>see if they will pick up some of the cost of replacement?  It is a V-6
>3.4 l engine and has not been abused.  Seems to me the timing chain 
>shoould have lasted a bit longer.  Thanks for your opinion.
>
>Al Varhus
>Columbus, Ohio 
>http://www.infinet.com/~avar
>http://www.infinet.com/~avar/olds.html
>Oldsmobile Club of America # 29111
>  Mid Ohio Chapter #136
>  Gem City Rockets  
>  
>
>

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:23:58 -0600
From: "Michael L Johnson" <mljohns2@crnotes.collins.rockwell.com>
Subject: Rear-End Experts, here is one for ya!!

List,

I was wondering if there were any rearend experts on this list. I found a
1981 Olds station wagon with a Limited Slip rearend in it and was wondering
if this would be a direct swap with my 1980 Olds Cutlass, the whole
differential. Also, I was wondering if any one would happen to know what
gearing might be inside of that rearend, (3:73, 2:73, etc.). Apparently it
had some type of towing package installed. The car only had 89,526 miles on
it and the motor ran great, the owner had died and her husband didn't want
to deal with the up and coming front end rebuild and tranny rebuild, not to
mention that it was all rusted out. So he went out and leased a new Auruoa
instead. I couldn't see the axle code on it becuase all the tires were flat
and I couldn't get to it. I could just barely see the Limited Slip tag
hanging down from the rearend. The salvage yard only wants $70.00 for the
whole works,(proably because they don't know what it is). Also, does anyone
know if it would be fairly easy to upgrade to 3:73 gears if it only has
something like 2:73? ANY POINTERS would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks In Advance
Mike J.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:04:44 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: You're kidding, right

Indiana has no state wide inspection programs of any kind for passenger
vehicles.  Certain areas/cities do have some emissions testing and some safety
stuff for school busses and the like.  The only thing we struggle with is
getting exhaust replaced without a catalytic converter on the 75 and up cars,
but it can be done.  Either by finding a sympathetic shop or by DIY.  Car
folks in Indiana do enjoy some freedom, but it won't last forever.


Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:45:45 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: all wheel drive Olds?

In a message dated 1/14/99 1:07:38 PM Central Standard Time,
JonKrisInc@aol.com writes:

<< How hard would it be to make an all wheel drive Delta? Has anyone ever
 modified an Olds to FWD? Just curious. It would be great in the snow! >>


Just go buy an Oldsmobile Bravada...It would probably be cheaper in the long
run.

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:56:32 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: WANTED: Oldsmobile Commercial (fwd)

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
> 
> This was sent to me personally. Belgian TV is looking for some Olds TV
> ads! Can anyone assist Frank? Please respond to Frank.SEGERS@VRT.BE if you
> can provide him with what he needs. Let's get behind this, guys... might
> get us a note in the credits! :)
> 
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:43:44 +0100
> From: SEGERS Frank <Frank.SEGERS@VRT.BE>
> Subject: Oldsmobile Commercial
> 
> Dear Mr. Beaulieu,
> 
> I'm looking for old Radio- or TV-commercials featuring Oldsmobile cars.
> The Belgian Public Broadcasting Company VRT would like to use the sound
> in one of it's programs.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Frank Segers
> VRT - International Relations
> Tel: +32 2 741.38.28
> Fax: +32 2 732.61.13
> e-mail: Frank.Segers@vrt.be

Greg,

You might be able to get some assistance from the Nick at Night TV cable
channel.  They run old (or retromercials as they call them) from time to
time.  Saw a 1970 Dodge Charger aa well as a few Oldsmobile commercials
on there from time to time.  I don't have an address for them, but it
should be available somewhere.  Yes, troops I know, I watch too much
television.  Oh well!

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:23:48 EST
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: speedo error

i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get the correct speedo gear for a
th-400  with 3.23 rear end?  the car is mostly origional except the tranny was
taken to a rebuild shop and they put in a tranny from a car w/ 2.56 rear.  any
help would be greatly appriciated.  fyi  the speedo reads almost twice the
speed i'm going.

mikeytvb@aol.com
70 442 hc

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:36:46 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission

>Interesting.  Are you sure it was a '78 and not a '77 that had been
repaired
>after crash damage with '78 parts?  Can't understand why anyone would swap
>in a TH 350 in place of the TH 400 unless they wanted the TH 400 for
another
>car!


I don't really remember.  I was pretty sure at the time that it was a '78.
Anyway, the car had dual exhaust (no cats), external engine oil cooler, air
shocks, non-emissions car (but original intake), etc.  It towed but it
looked like an old taxi.  I could have been all screwed up.  Also, from the
Buick I got my rear-end from, it had a 403 and a Th350.  I am sure because I
pulled the speedo gear from it.  Also, these are Canadian cars so that might
make a difference.  All clear now.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:54:08 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Rear-End Experts, here is one for ya!!

>I was wondering if there were any rearend experts on this list. I found a
>1981 Olds station wagon with a Limited Slip rearend in it and was wondering
>if this would be a direct swap with my 1980 Olds Cutlass, the whole
>differential. Also, I was wondering if any one would happen to know what
>gearing might be inside of that rearend, (3:73, 2:73, etc.). Apparently it
>had some type of towing package installed. The car only had 89,526 miles on
>it and the motor ran great, the owner had died and her husband didn't want
>to deal with the up and coming front end rebuild and tranny rebuild, not to
>mention that it was all rusted out. So he went out and leased a new Auruoa
>instead. I couldn't see the axle code on it becuase all the tires were flat
>and I couldn't get to it. I could just barely see the Limited Slip tag
>hanging down from the rearend. The salvage yard only wants $70.00 for the
>whole works,(proably because they don't know what it is). Also, does anyone
>know if it would be fairly easy to upgrade to 3:73 gears if it only has
>something like 2:73? ANY POINTERS would be greatly appreciated.


If it came from a Cutlass Wagon, it would fit.  If it is a big car (custom
cruiser), it may not fit (I am not sure).  They came with everything from
2.29s to 3.23s (I think).  I got  a rear-end out of a late '70 Buick with a
tow package.  It was a limited slip and 3.23 ratio.  You could take the
cover off the rear and on the crown gear a ratio should be stamped on.
41:17 would equal 2.41.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:58:25 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Weather

>By tomorrow it will be spring cruising weather.  Hmmm, time to check and
see
>how the machine shop is doing on the 455.


Speak for yourself.  I am trying so hard not to drive my Delta.  I did
yesterday, only around the block.  It has no interior so I had to sit on the
bucket.  I pretty much drove it with idle only and it still got dirty.  I
hate new paint jobs.  I think I will just start driving it and to hell with
the snow and salt.  Igor.

Igor Todorovic
1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23s)

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:09:27 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: speedo error

Hi Mike,
	I believe that you need to know what size wheels you will be using 
before you
can calculate this.  Someone once mentioned that it was more accurate to
calculate the ratio between what your speedo reads and what it should read and
then apply that to you current gear to find out what you need.

	There are at least 3 ways to figure out how much your speed is out; 1) 
divide
the mileage your gauge records by the correct mileage from a speedometer
checking area on a local highway, 2) drive a constant speed accompanied by
someone with a correct speedometer, c) find a cop who will record your speed by
radar:)

Mikeytvb@AOL.COM wrote:
> 
> i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get the correct speedo gear for a
> th-400  with 3.23 rear end?  the car is mostly origional except the tranny 
was
> taken to a rebuild shop and they put in a tranny from a car w/ 2.56 rear.  
any
> help would be greatly appriciated.  fyi  the speedo reads almost twice the
> speed i'm going.
> 
> mikeytvb@aol.com
> 70 442 hc
- -- 

Cliff Simpson
csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit) (soon to be a 455 :)
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:16:37 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: speedo error

>i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get the correct speedo gear for
a
>th-400  with 3.23 rear end?  the car is mostly origional except the tranny
was
>taken to a rebuild shop and they put in a tranny from a car w/ 2.56 rear.
any
>help would be greatly appriciated.  fyi  the speedo reads almost twice the
>speed i'm going.


I put a th400 from 2.56 car in a 3.23 car.  When you solve the problem, let
me know.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:01:58 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: You're kidding, right

- -----Original Message-----
79 or 80
> Cutlass resting on a 4x4 chassis.

I think that's alright.  When I'm rich, I'd like to have different types of
vehicles but have them all based on the Cutlass.  I'll have a turbo diesel
dually Cutlass for towing.  I'll have a 4x4 lifted Cutlass for rock
crawling, a streetable 4x4 Cutlass for winter driving, a drag strip only
Cutlass (that I'll tow with my dually Cutlass), my daily driver Cutlass, my
convertible Cutlass, etc. etc. etc.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hybernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:00:56 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: SCREEN SAVER

http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:22:57 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: SCREEN SAVER

Looks like the eyes of Anais Nin.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hybernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of CUTLASS442@AOL.COM
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 8:01 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: SCREEN SAVER


http://www.stonehill.edu/~dgerow

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:20:39 -0600
From: "mbloomer" <mbloomer@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: speedo error

>>i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get the correct speedo gear
for
>a
>>th-400  with 3.23 rear end?  the car is mostly origional except the tranny
>was
>>taken to a rebuild shop and they put in a tranny from a car w/ 2.56 rear.


>I put a th400 from 2.56 car in a 3.23 car.  When you solve the problem, let
>me know.


Simple solution.  Igor and Mike, just swap speedo gears with each other.
At least let the each other know the tooth count on the drive/driven gears
so you can both go down to the GM dealer and get the right gears.  Should
be just a simple driven gear/sleeve swap.

Mike B
mbloomer@gateway.net
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:48:32 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: Weather

>I pretty much drove it with idle only and it still got dirty.  I
> hate new paint jobs.  I think I will just start driving it and to
> hell with
> the snow and salt.  Igor.
>
> Igor Todorovic
> 1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23s)



	Big mistake Igor. Resist driving it. Your only reintroducing salt into 
old
wounds and new seams. Your paint will never forgive you. Nor you, forgive
yourself in a few years. Especially when your now new body starts showing
it's old age in other areas that weren't repaired this time. Let that puppy
hibernate for the winter and Growl in the other seasons. ;^P.

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@CC-IROC-SS.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:09:25 -0700
From: "Larry Pegg" <nurelic@primenet.com>
Subject: 4X4 olds

My Idea is a VC with an astro or safari drive train with a moderately high
torque eng that is as fuel efficient as I can reasonably get.  IT would be
the ultimate RV. for snow skiing and pulling a small boat to the lake.

LP.

By the way I am in the market for 215 cubic inch aluminum block parts for
the above mentioned boat.  I am ordering plans for a 12.5 foot front eng
speed boat replica.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:07 -0700
From: "Larry Pegg" <nurelic@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: kidding, multi cut's

I love it, I love it, I love it, hope you get to work on this plan till the
day you pass on to the big shop in the sky.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Master Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: You're kidding, right


>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>79 or 80
>> Cutlass resting on a 4x4 chassis.
>
>I think that's alright.  When I'm rich, I'd like to have different types of
>vehicles but have them all based on the Cutlass.  I'll have a turbo diesel
>dually Cutlass for towing.  I'll have a 4x4 lifted Cutlass for rock
>crawling, a streetable 4x4 Cutlass for winter driving, a drag strip only
>Cutlass (that I'll tow with my dually Cutlass), my daily driver Cutlass, my
>convertible Cutlass, etc. etc. etc.
>
>Ray Costanzo
>87 409 Cutlass (hybernating)
>84 Calais ($200!)
>costanzo@netcarrier.com
>http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:31:24 +0300
From: john schiffman <joschiff@flash.net>
Subject: Re: kidding, multi cut's

You have spent way too much time breathing hi octane leaded fumes!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:44:23 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <FSNissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 79 98 Transmission

>Buick I got my rear-end from, it had a 403 and a Th350.  I am sure because
I
>pulled the speedo gear from it.  Also, these are Canadian cars so that
might
>make a difference.

Igor,

403 with TH 350 was common.  I have never seen a TH 400 in a  B body from
'77 up (LeSabre, Riv ('77 & '78), 88, Bonneville, Catalina).  I have a book
that lists codes for TH 400 applications, but have never seen one.  Kind of
doubt they were built.

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:42:14 -0500
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Subject: 307 and a 700-r4

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:34:52 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Trailer "Queens" (Was beater..)

Well.....
After following this thread for the last three
or four days, I can see I'm very much in the
minority here.  Yes, you see I am a trailer queen 
owner. In addition, I am also responsible for
relegating other Cutlass/4-4-2's to the same
status.  (Oh, the shame of it all).  Perhaps I
should blame my parents.  As it was they who
long ago inflicted me with the restoration bug 
by restoring old Jaguars to concours condition.
Two of which were JCNA national champions!!
And yes, we are talking white glove stuff
here.  Now I realize this form of competition
is not for everybody, but I was surprised to
read some of the posts on this subject and
the disdain most seem to have for restored cars.  
Personally, I very much enjoy the discipline
that is required to do a correct full 
restoration.  In order to maintain accuracy,
and authenticity, a correct restoration will
in many regards require much more effort than
a restification will.  There is also a sense of 
history involved as well.  By restoration, 
one is preserving something as it was originally
created.  So what if you can't drive it every 
day.  That's not the point!  That logic is like
saying why do you have all those clothes in
your closet if you can't wear them every day.     
Don't get me wrong here.  I also enjoy 
modifying them as well.  As well as racing
them.  EVERY Cutlass/4-4-2 I've ever owned
has been down the dragstrip (except parts cars 
of course).  Our 67 4-4-2 Super/Pro ET Bracket 
car is far from stock.  And as time and money 
allow, it will continue to evolve.  
Can I drive it every day?  No.  
But once again, that's not the point.  
Apparently to some, if a car cannot be 
driven every day, it is useless.  But I
don't look at my cars as transportation 
appliances.  In a way, my cars are like
people.  In that they each have their own 
personality.  And I don't think that is
such a bad thing.

I guess the point to all my babbling here
is that everybody has a vision for their own 
project.  And just because somebody else has 
a different vision for theirs, that does not
make anybody wrong.  (However I will have to 
admit that I cringe when I see a rare car
that has been turned into some kind of 
Frankenstein like creation).  And even though
sometimes I don't quite understand the thought 
process behind some peoples visions (That guys 67
Vista Cruiser down the road from here with an 
LT-something Chevy engine for example), I say 
to each his (or her) own.                  

If you would like to see a couple of "trailer
queens", check out our race car and 72 Cutlass at:

http://supercarsunlimited.com/photos/stable.html


BTW, this was not meant to flame anyone's posting
to the Beater vs Restored thread.  I just thought
the other side needed some representation.  


Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 
Portland  Oregon  503-244-8249

Web site:
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com

E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:26:01 -0500
From: Aaron D Eoff <sheep542@mindspring.com>
Subject: Reclinig bucket seats for Cutlass"S"

Anyone got any ideas where these could be found?? Just reading over my
original owners manual and saw a great picture of them. My 1977 Cutlass S
car presently has buckets seats that don't recline, seperated y a center
console.

TIA for the help!!!


Aaron

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:10:26 -0500
From: David L Wyatt <WYATT_DAVID_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: RE: You're kidding, right

Gee Chris, I keep the torch ready at home, so the next time you come up in
your truck we can lower it the traditional way!  That way you can get it as
low as some cars like you mentioned.  And won't the little lady at home be
surprised!

Dave (just say when) Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:26:24 -0800
From: Michael Hemp <histryco@redshift.com>
Subject: 47 Olds info

I'd love to hear from anyone with experience with a 47 Olds 4-Door
Hydromatic; one such beast now lives in my garage in Carmel, ready for a
renaissance. A major renaissance.

Michael K. Hemp
P.O. Box 222612
Carmel, CA 93922
Phone and Fax:(831) 624-2456

Live aloha...

Michael

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:42:46 EST
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Big Car Question-'65 98 wheelcovers

Oldsmoids-
Saw a very interesting set of wheels on a '65 98 today. Looked like alloy
wheels, aluminum heavy cast with a chrome small center cap and an Olds rocket
in a knockoff style spinner. Looked closer, and saw that it was actually a
cast aluminum cover that was bolted to the steel wheel underneath. Quite a
solid and handsome piece.
Anybody know what these were called? Any other applications?

Peter
coupeking@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:51:14 EST
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Edelbrock Victor

Ken,
 I think the intake that Edelbrock made for the Batten heads was called
a Victor.
Dave Brode
64 Cutlass


I knew that "Torker" didn't sound right, but still kept running on about it.
Must have been those times I grabbed the coil and didn't get shocked :-)

OK gang, the Victor was the intake for the SB Olds with the Batten heads.
They are out there, probably obscure swap meet material, but they're out
there.  I like the idea about Batten making their own intakes, maybe if we ask
reeeeeal nice...........

And a dual-plane for me.............

Take Care,
Ken "looking stooopid again" Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas
KS7RACING@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:24:47 -0800
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: Big Car Question-'65 98 wheelcovers

These were an early cast wheel used in 64-65 on a very limited number of
models. I think they were limited to 98's and Starfires. Cool 14's, good
design. I've only seen a few in the years I've been paying attention. I
think they don't age so well unless well cared for because most of the ones
I've seen or come across in boneyards have been pretty beat up.

Also I note that the wheels last longer than the centers. The centers must
be quite rare now. 

cf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: COUPEKING@aol.com [mailto:COUPEKING@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:43 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Big Car Question-'65 98 wheelcovers
> 
> 
> Oldsmoids-
> Saw a very interesting set of wheels on a '65 98 today. 
> Looked like alloy
> wheels, aluminum heavy cast with a chrome small center cap 
> and an Olds rocket
> in a knockoff style spinner. Looked closer, and saw that it 
> was actually a
> cast aluminum cover that was bolted to the steel wheel 
> underneath. Quite a
> solid and handsome piece.
> Anybody know what these were called? Any other applications?
> 
> Peter
> coupeking@aol.com
> 

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:31:27 -0800
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: Good For Greg & His Trailered Car

Hey Greg,
Much as I like to drive my car. I must say that was a great rebuttal. 

Sure am glad there's room for your way, my way and that guy with the 4X4
cutlass way. 

Besides if all the Olds out there were driven, we'd have nothing to compare
against as we restore our cars. 

Not into competition on that resto stuff, but hey to each his (or her) own.

Celebrate Oldsversity.

cf


Greg's response Snipped

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:42:03 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: speedo error

>Simple solution.  Igor and Mike, just swap speedo gears with each other.
>At least let the each other know the tooth count on the drive/driven gears
>so you can both go down to the GM dealer and get the right gears.  Should
>be just a simple driven gear/sleeve swap.


Aghh, we both have the same problem and the same gears.  We both need 3.23
instead of 2.56 speedo gears.  I went to my 'local' GM deler and have
received the most lousy service ever.  The guy had no clue what he was
talking about, constantly telling me to go to Mr.. Speedometer and pat $200.

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:42:03 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '76 Delta For Sale

Not on the list, respond to Shayne_Buchanan@OXY.COM if interested.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Shayne_Buchanan@OXY.COM
To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: I have a 76 Delta 88 for sale

1976 Delta 88, baby blue, 118,000 miles, all original, new brakes, runs
great, ready to restore, 350 V-8. 900 obo

J. Shayne Buchanan, CPA
Senior Tax Analyst
JSBCPA1@SWBELL.NET
918-561-2978

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:45:00 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 307 and a 700-r4

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Jonathan Hart <jehart@RTelco.Net>
Subject: 307 and a 700-r4

I am equiping a 1983 98 as a tow car. I want to replace the 200-4r =
transmission. Will a 700-r4 bolt to the 307 block? If not is there =
another overdrive unit that will bolt up? Jon Hart jehart@rtelco.net

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:46:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 47 Olds info

Not on the list; respond to histryco@redshift.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Michael Hemp <histryco@redshift.com>
Subject: 47 Olds info

I'd love to hear from anyone with experience with a 47 Olds 4-Door
Hydromatic; one such beast now lives in my garage in Carmel, ready for a
renaissance. A major renaissance.

Michael K. Hemp
P.O. Box 222612
Carmel, CA 93922
Phone and Fax:(831) 624-2456

Live aloha...

Michael

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:32:51 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Rear-End Experts, here is one for ya!!

The easiest way to determine actual gear ratio for sure is take the cover
off, count the number of teeth on the ring and pinion. Divide the ring # by
the pinion #. The answer is your actual gear ratio. Be a good idea to
change the gear oil anyway. Also the easiest way to determine if you got a
limited slip or not. raise both rear tires off the ground and rotate one.
If the other rotates in the same direction you have a limited slip (posi),
If it rotates opposite way it's an open rear (one legger). But I'm sure
about everyone knows that one already. 

Ed
Omega man

'74 Omega S 455
'74 Omega 455/4sp








At 04:23 PM 1/14/99 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>List,
>
>I was wondering if there were any rearend experts on this list. I found a
>1981 Olds station wagon with a Limited Slip rearend in it and was wondering
>if this would be a direct swap with my 1980 Olds Cutlass, the whole
>differential. Also, I was wondering if any one would happen to know what
>gearing might be inside of that rearend, (3:73, 2:73, etc.). Apparently it
>had some type of towing package installed. The car only had 89,526 miles on
>it and the motor ran great, the owner had died and her husband didn't want
>to deal with the up and coming front end rebuild and tranny rebuild, not to
>mention that it was all rusted out. So he went out and leased a new Auruoa
>instead. I couldn't see the axle code on it becuase all the tires were flat
>and I couldn't get to it. I could just barely see the Limited Slip tag
>hanging down from the rearend. The salvage yard only wants $70.00 for the
>whole works,(proably because they don't know what it is). Also, does anyone
>know if it would be fairly easy to upgrade to 3:73 gears if it only has
>something like 2:73? ANY POINTERS would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks In Advance
>Mike J.
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:55:03 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: WANTED: Oldsmobile Commercial (fwd)

> Greg,
> 
> You might be able to get some assistance from the Nick at Night TV cable
> channel.  They run old (or retromercials as they call them) from time to
> time.  Saw a 1970 Dodge Charger aa well as a few Oldsmobile commercials
> on there from time to time.  I don't have an address for them, but it
> should be available somewhere.  Yes, troops I know, I watch too much
> television.  Oh well!
> 
http://www.nick-at-nite.com
It's the wife's favorite channel

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:23:38 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: Resto shop in Cleveland

Hi all,
I got an email the other day from an individual in Cleveland, OH, Scott
Branch if I recall, I do remember it was Scott B.  Anyway, when he signed
the message, under his name was Classic Auto Restoration.  I'm just
wondering if anyone has heard of this place and if so what have they heard?
Thanks.

Chris (slowly searching for resto shops) Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:29:38 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: carb spacer..

>    In addition to all the info provided by Joe Padavano and others, 
> one of David Vizard's two "How to build horsepower" books points out 
> that on most dual-plane manifolds the engine never sees more than half 
> the carburetor cfm available at any one time, due to the divided 
> manifold. Adding a single-hole spacer on top of a dual-plane manifold 
> in effect lets the engine see both halves of the carburetor, 
> increasing its apparent cfm.
> 
> 
So is this also the reasoning, on dual plane intakes, to remove or grind
away part of the divider or plane if you will, like say a half an inch, from
the intake where the carb sits.  (I think someone already mentioned this is
a recent most.)  I thought I heard that Mondello recommended this also.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:42:49 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Paging Andrew Green

If you're back on the list, give me a hit privately if you would.  Your
address went to the cyberspace landfill when my email archives
self-destructed.

Don Sowers
Nicholasville, Ky

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:52:01 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Chicago area Oldsmonuts

Apparently a trip to the Chicago area is going to happen this coming
week.  Just wonder who's up that general direction.  The way it looks
now is I'm going up this Sunday for a week or so.  Unless someone has a
better route, it looks like Lexington, Ky to Louisville to Indianapolis
to northern Chicago.  If anyone has a better idea please reply to me
directly.  Thanks.  As for Olds content, I doubt very many of them will
be out of their nice warm garages this time of year.

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:08:47 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Water, water everywhere

In a message dated 1/14/99 3:13:39 PM EST, MURPH2@prodigy.net writes:

<<  found the entire
 drivers side floorboard covered in water,  leak appears to be on the upper
 part of the  firewall,  behind the dash.  >>

Immediate fix-park the car on a hill with the fromt facing down.

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:39:13 -0800
From: Chris & Robin Miller <cya442@san.rr.com>
Subject: Robert-Shaw Thermo?

I am looking for the part number for a Robert-Shaw thermostat for a 455
Olds BB.  I haven't had any luck finding one of these thermostats out
here in SoCal so if I have the part number maybe Summit racing can
locate one.  They don't seem to think that Robert-Shaw makes one for the
Olds but I know there are people on this list who have used them.
Thanks again.

- --
Chris Miller
'68 442
San Diego, CA
mailto:cya442@san.rr.com

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:44:09 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: Robert-Shaw Thermo?

Isn't it 330-999.  Where 999 is the temp you want, like 180 degrees would be
330-180.  And I believe the original replacement would be 330-192.  I'm
about 75% sure this is the part number.

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:25:55 -0500
From: Andy Mikesell <andymikesell@mediaone.net>
Subject: Price for Delta 88 Wagon

I have the opportunity to purchase a workhorse daily driver and need to
know if the price is fair. The details:

Olds Delta 88 wagon
power everything
78 K miles
No rust
$2100

What engine is typically in these cars?  The 307?  What should I look
out for?  Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

- - Andy

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:26:01 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: speedo error

I've had the same problem with my local dealer. "OK, what color gear do you
want? We don't have a conversion chart!" They couldn't even tell me the
tooth count per color. That might be the 18 yr old behind the counter not
knowing the GM software. I went from 2.14 to 3.08 in the rear and know I'm
about 15 mph high on the Speedo. There is two gears in the trany. The
trany's drive gear and the cables driven gear. There is a tooth range
associated to the trany's drive gear. In my case, I'll pull Quincy's speedo
cable from the trany ad increase by a few teeth the cables driven gear. That
is if It's not already at the largest gear for the trany's drive gear. I(f
that's the case the trany drive gear also needs changing as well.

Quincy should be getting a Richmond Gear 6 Sp. trany. Haven't yet discussed
the speedo cable drive with them. I will probably setup an adjustable
magnetic pickup for the gauges, (digital & analog).

Actually I need brave the ice in NY today and will be near the dealership.
Will see if I can get the parts manager to pull-up a conversion/color
chart or formula. If successful, I'll re-type and post it later this
evening. Your real need at this point is to pull that speedo cable from the
trany to see your color gears and tooth count. I've yet to do this and don't
know if the gear is all colored plastic or just dotted with a color. I'll
ask to look at a few gears and assess.

Stay tuned, later family.

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@CC-IROC-SS.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com
Project Forum Delphi Site:
http://www.delphi.com/cc_iroc_ss

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:28:44 +0100
From: "Trond Pedersen" <trondped@c2i.net>
Subject: SV: Weather

 
> And in Calgary it's +6C (43F) with a SW wind at 46KPH (29MPH).  That's a
> Chinook by anyone's definition:)).  Since this morning the hills have
gone from
> white to almost all brown.
> 
> By tomorrow it will be spring cruising weather.  Hmmm, time to check and
see
> how the machine shop is doing on the 455


Brrrrrrrrrr 
- -29C 
But: the SUN is BACK :-)
saw it first time today sinse 24 nov.
6 hole minutes.
Hmmm spring time sone.
were is my credit card?
Summit here i come:-)

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:34:23 -0500
From: Andy Mikesell <andymikesell@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Price for Delta 88 Wagon

Oh yeah - it's a 1988.

Andy Mikesell wrote:

> I have the opportunity to purchase a workhorse daily driver and need to
> know if the price is fair. The details:
>
> Olds Delta 88 wagon
> power everything
> 78 K miles
> No rust
> $2100
>
> What engine is typically in these cars?  The 307?  What should I look
> out for?  Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
>
> - Andy

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:45:40 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Batten Vs. Edelbrock Heads

All, Please maximize your preview window for proper layout;

Ken Snyder wrote:
<Snip>
I like the idea about Batten making their own intakes, maybe if we ask
reeeeeal nice...........

<GJC>
Ah Ken,
Batten does make their own manifolds. Following is an excerpt from Brian
Nutter at Batten:

<Snip-Brian>
Our heads come with 1/2" head bolts.  We currently
section our 455 manifolds or do sheetmetal intakes for small blocks.  Our
runner and plenum design is for multi-wove reflection and a tuned best RPM
of 6,500.  Best power is from 5,500 - 7,500.  Our heads will only be
available in aluminum.
$795 Bare Each
$2,495 with Manley Severe Duty Valves, Titanium Retainers, Roller Springs,
Etc.
$3,195 Super Mod Ported
$3,795 Full Port
$550 Batten Intake
Brian Nutter

<GJC>
The Battens are drilled with the larger 1/2" hole Vs. the smaller head bolt
holes in the Edelbrock heads that require drilling to fit a SB 403 ci Olds.
When I asked him about Batten heads on a 403ci, Brian's response was:

<Snip-Jose R. Elias>
Also, I'm afraid the 403's better bore size would be
a poor trade off for the lack of bottom-end strength.  Honestly, I won't
sell a 400+ horsepower 403 to a customer.  Talk to you soon.

<GJC>
Now don't flame Brian for this statement. They just prefer their hard work
to survive beyond the SB's open webs.

Flow data direct from both companies:

          Edelbrock:                          Batten:

      valve lift @ Flow
      .100"    67-67/54                      250 with 3 Angle
      .200"  131-131/102                     290 Super Mod
      .300"  195-195/137                     325 Full Port
      .400"  245-247/163                     350 with Flow Development
      .500"  278-256/179                     Brian didn't give
      .600"  268-259/188                     dyno info as sending
      .700"  xxxxxxxxxxxxx                   a promo pack via mail.

Now, in discussing the head comparison between manufactures, Jose R. Elias
replied:
<Snip - Jose>
My $0.02 on the Edelbrock Heads.  I am a mechanical engineer in the
aerospace industry, but also a partner in an automotive machine shop
dedicated to build race engines.  We have lots of experience with many makes
of engines and many of our customers are record holders in NHRA Stock,
S/Stock and Comp eliminator.

I have seen the heads and they have too many bad things about them.  Also,
my experience with Edelbrock castings is bad; they have lots of core shift
and porosity.  We have repaired many of these heads.  If you are interested
in using an aluminum head, I will like to suggest that you use the Batten
Aluminum Olds head.  Since you plan to use EFI and a big block, Batten also
has a great single plane intake with provisions for injectors.

<GJC>
So it seems if your considering aluminum heads for your olds powered project
your choice will be determined by:

A: Your targeted power output
B: Your Induction scheme
C: Your ability to fabricate  (Exhaust)
D: Your budget.

I have heard from actual owners in both camps and have had mention about
Edelbrock early casting problems. Likewise a lack of SB single plane
manifold. BTW, anyone notice that recently Jegs and others aren't listing
the BB torker manifold? I've got an e-mail in to Edelbrock about the Olds BB
torker

For those that don't recall, I'm setting up a dual stage tuned port 16
injector EFI on Quincy. While I can effect this on either the Batten, or
Edelbrock-Torker manifolds, the recent lack of a BB torker manifold listing
has me?  Anyone have any direct Edelbrock info on the BB Torker?

Cost factors;

Battens will certainly run better that x2 an Edelbrock setup. But than they
have been at the Olds head game quite a while. They are also willing/able to
fabricate custom manifolds for specific applications. Yes big $$$. Edelbrock
could care less beyond push it out the door, let them (US) worry about the
application problems.

Since I've got to fabricate custom SS turbo headers I'll go with the Batten
setup. Yeah, big $$ but when the prototype engine is complete, I'll have a
proven reliable engine top end to work with.

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Customs

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@CC-IROC-SS.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com
Project Forum Delphi Site:
http://www.delphi.com/cc_iroc_ss

G.J.C - Hanger95 Technical Support Engineer.
For free Win95-98 Support, come visit < GJC > at:
http://www.salemcounty.com/win95board/multipage1.html

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