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oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, February 11 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1766



56 Hood wanted
Re: Slightly used 307 cam.
looking for used 425 flywheel
Re: Sheet metal thickness-68 442
C-Head Question
66 Rally Pac
where for 2.5" Cutlass Exhaust Downpipe?
Re: 75 H/O T-Top Gaskets
Re: hagerty insurance
Re: Headlight Surgery - Temp Gone
455 assembly expertise
Re: speaking of dual snorkel
Re: cad plating-eastwood ? to the list
Re: LISTEN TO THIS C...
Fw: FS:SHOP MANUALS
For Sale:           1969 Oldsmobile Toronado  
OLDS '68 NINETY-EIGHT
Re: Olds only show and go
The dual snokel incident
Re: Olds only show and go
Re: 39 degree 425 and 455 pushrod difference
Date:	Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:58:36 -0800
Re: Chevrolet 350
Re:  39 degree 425 and 455 pushrod difference
Re: Rocker Pedestal Shims
Re: modifying a dual snorkel
What Would a Fair Price Be?
Re: hagerty insurance
Re: OLDSMOBILE vs OLDS W-455 intakes
Re: Rocket 350
Re: Headlight Surgery - Temp Gone
Re: 75 H/O T-Top Gaskets
Virtual Car Show
Re: 455 assembly expertise
Re: 39 degree 425 and 455 pushrod difference
Re: Rocker Pedestal Shims
Re: Chevrolet 350
Re: TADA!!! Yipee!! Now what?
Re: Non olds: what the heck is E-bay?
Re: C-Head Question
Re: Chevrolet 350
Drew is back and looking for a nice 76-88 Olds to drive this summer
Re: LISTEN TO THIS C...
Re: Chevrolet 350
NEW CAR CRAFT 
Re: Olds only show and go
Re: where for 2.5" Cutlass Exhaust Downpipe?
Re: The dual snokel incident
Re: The dual snokel incident
MINT 1978 Olds 98 F/S Near Houston, TX
Re: Smokey & Bandit experts???
Re: Chevrolet 350
Re: 455 assembly expertise
Re: Drag Racing expertise needed
Re: NJ rumor was RE: Inter State Emission testing?
Re: TADA!!! Yipee!! Now what?
Re: Chevrolet 350
window rattles
Re: Chevrolet 350
Re: window rattles
Re: Drag Racing expertise needed
Re: Chevrolet 350
Re: Chevrolet 350

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:37:11 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: 56 Hood wanted

Forwarding from my Olds club....not on list, reply in person if you can
help. Thanx

drc

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reed <treed@gw.uscs.edu>


>I am looking for a hood for a 1956 Olds.  Got any leads?
>
>Thanks
>Tom Reed
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:59:21 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Slightly used 307 cam.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary Couse <gjcouse@francomm.com>


> Anyone have a suggestion for the largest, (or second largest as a little
>safety zone), cam & lifters either standard or roller to put in a stock but
>good '86 - 307 "Y" engine.

The 86 would be a roller type - if you want a used one, your best bet would
be the factory 442 cam (in terms of availability). Your G-Body buds?

>I would like a little lump in the idle if
>possible.

Mondello lists one for $300 - his RH 614 - 0.510 / 0.520 (lumpa lumpa).

Comp Cams has one too:
part # 42-000-8,  valve lift 0.480 / 0.512
grind # olds 3106/3050 hr112+4
Price:  $254.47

<snip>
> Lately, I've seen a few used cam & lifter packages in the neiborhood of
>$50-$60. That sounds about right for my needs.

Std cam sure, roller.....doubt it.

drc

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:47:15 -0500
From: Jonathan Parke <jonparke@together.net>
Subject: looking for used 425 flywheel

anybody got a used 425 flywheel for sale

or perhaps one I can use for a few days for a dyno test in Memphis?

please e-mail me privately,

TIA

jp

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:02:36 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Sheet metal thickness-68 442

Jeff, I can't give you a gauge nimber, but most any 110 volt mig machine is
going to stitch sheet metal with absolutely no problem.  I've seen body men
sew chassis rails with a 110 machine.  We have a 220 volt Snap-On machine at
the shop.  Both gross over kill and expensive.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: blue442@webtv.net <blue442@webtv.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:37 PM
Subject: Sheet metal thickness-68 442


Hello Oldsfolk,
Can anyone tell me what gauge sheet metal is on my 68 442?  In my quest
for a better Olds and even more garage clutter I've decided to buy a
welder. More specificly, I'm looking for one best "tuned" for the
fenders & quater panels.

I'm looking at the Craftsman wire welders, because of availability and
price. (read: Sears Card :-)

TIA
Jeff Carter
blue442@webtv.net

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:22:16 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: C-Head Question

Hi,
   Let's say I have a 455 with a slightly hotter than stock cam and other
mild performance mods, would I notice any difference by upgrading my 2"
valve C-heads to 2.07"? Would the performance gain be worth the cost of the
upgrade? This would be in a typical street car with street gearing and
tires. Thanks,
Gene

>the best of all the "non-exotic" factory heads.  Note that the C heads came
>in both big and small valve versions (2.00" vs. 2.07" intake).

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:33:31 -0500
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: 66 Rally Pac

Hey everyone

	I have been doing a lot of research on my 66 W-30 Track Pac and found 
out
from a long conversation with the original owner that the car did not
originally come with it. So I have decided to sell the complete setup with
wiring harness and all. This is a personal deal and not the business. It is
in beautiful condition and may need the printed circuit board repaired. If
anybody is interested please E-mail me directly. It is not cheap. For all
the 67 people looking for one this looks the same but the dash wiring
harness is completely different than the 67 model.

Jim Chermack
66 442 W-30 Track Pac
66 442 Race Car
98 Intrigue

(757)474-0869

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:38:25 -0500
From: Jonathan Parke <jonparke@together.net>
Subject: where for 2.5" Cutlass Exhaust Downpipe?

I'm using cast mainfolds on my 425 EFI project and would like to find a
shop that can make 2.5" exhaust pipes from  the manifolds to the mufflers.
I'd like to have 'em mandrel bent and I've tried all over... no luck.  Did
find a shop in Long Island named Cooks that can bend them using a die that
puts very little reduction in the pipe on the bends, but I'd prefer
mandrel.  Also he'd have to make them from seeing an existing pipe as he
doesn't have any patterns.  Tried Gardners (who told me about Cooks) but
they are only into making original looking exhausts.

Any experience, leads or thoughts?

BTW Torque Tech in Georgia has got mandrel bent for after the muffler and
can sell me 90?s & 45?s that I could cut and weld for the down pipes, but
my concern with that approach is that there will be slag etc. on the inside
of the pipe that will restictive.

Any opinions/experience on this?

TIA,

jp

mailto:jonparke@together.net

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:01:44 EST
From: Joeytada@aol.com
Subject: Re: 75 H/O T-Top Gaskets

Good luck on your search for T-top gaskets. I haven't been able to find any.
I'm going to try to build the carrying cases but I need a good one to copy
from. If I rememeber correctly they were made of a plastic cardboard type of
material.  I'll let the list know if I get them made.

Keith
'75 Hurst/Olds

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:17:57 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: hagerty insurance

Mike-
No mileage restriction and they had no problem with daily use  of the car???
Scott
71 442 Conv

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:30:41 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Headlight Surgery - Temp Gone

 God bless all you great people going in for surgerys. Let's all say a prayer
for them if the spirit moves you. My wife is going in on 2/22 for major
surgery it will be her fourth in the last 2 yrs. 
Rich
1969 442 W-30

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:38:23 -0500 (EST)
From: GMcNeil@webtv.net (Gregory McNeil)
Subject: 455 assembly expertise

 I am a novice engine builder looking for valve train assembly advise.I
had the short block prof. assembled and I have already torqued down the
heads and the cam and timing gears installed.The cam is a Compcams
260H-10 and I am using stock springs,rocker arms,and pushrods.The only
other valvetrain I have assembled was on a small block chevy,and I'm
sure I didn't assemble it right.Any and all assembly and
adjustments(torque specs,lash,etc)would be GREATLY appreciated.
          THANK YOU

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:51:31 -0500
From: Rebel1 <rebel1@raex.com>
Subject: Re: speaking of dual snorkel

Mike,
    I like the way you think - I robbed a set of single air scopes from a Crown
Vic - the scopes go up and over the rad support on the Ford - but look like 
they
are going to work really nice flipped upside down under my bumper -
unfortunately, the dual snorkel air cleaner was already gone but I've got 
enough
single snorkle ones around that I'll just add a second snorkel to one of those!
As a point of reference for everyone - the mid 70's air cleaners are offset
forward to clear the HEI - yet still retain the large diameter filter.  Just
food for thought....
Todd Daenzer
All the toys put away for the winter...


Mike Bloomer wrote:

> Personally, I would just fabricate my own as the cheapest method.  The only
> advantage to using a stock one is if you use the flapper valves for warm up.
> All you would have to do is take a single snorkel one, cut off the snorkel,
> and make your snorkels (does anybody else think that work is absurd?)
> from 1/16" or 1/32" sheet steel and your in business.  Plus they would
> flow better since you could make them huge.  As for something you could
> find easily, check out the mustang/t-birds/cougars that were carb'd.  The
> HO versions all had dual snorkels, I believe.  Didn't the monte carlo ss'
> have em too?
>
> Mike Bloomer
> mbloomer@mindspring.com
> ICQ# 19113713
> http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/
>
> >Does anybody have a line on a dual snorkle that would be easily and cheaply
> I
> >might ad, for the olds? At this juncture, any make of dual snorkle as long
> as it
> >fits under the hood, sucks up the air, and cleans it too would be great.
> Like
> >the beginer of this thread I too am looking at a home made OAI system, but
> my
> >car being a 68 442, i have to go under the hood. Later I'll put scoops on
> and
> >with my 4l80E w/ gearvendors (dreaming now!) and 3.73... we're flying...
> (End of
> >dreams due to money problems...)
> >
> >Ben

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:59:49 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: cad plating-eastwood ? to the list

Joe P. once mentioned that the painted cad tends to look like a paint job, no
matter what you do. After that, I looked closely at a couple of cad paint jobs
and must agree that, unless you do the orange, green and silver mist coats
exactly right, you're gonna know it's paint!  I have another friend who uses
"Cadillac Gold", and although it doesn''t pass as yellow cad, it looks real
good on the booster and the brake reservoir cover...
Scott
71 442 Conv

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:11:26 -0600
From: Mark <greenmm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: LISTEN TO THIS C...

Cliff Simpson wrote:

> 
> Olds content, I would like to have my 455 tested for emissions some day but I
> doubt that they would have hoses big enough to go over the trumpets. 


Actually, my '75 Delta 88 (with 455) was tested for emissions in
California.  Needless to say, the guy was not happy when I passed with
flying colors.

Mark MacDonald
1975 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale Convertible
<http://home.earthlink.net/~greenmm>

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:11:51 -0500
From: "person" <vbdeveloper@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Fw: FS:SHOP MANUALS

Found this in a newsgroup. Anybody looking?
VBDeveloper@worldnet.att.net

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- -----Original Message-----
From: Fred Gullage <fgullage@nf.sympatico.ca>
Newsgroups:
rec.autos.marketplace,rec.autos.antique,alt.autos.antique,alt.autos,alt.cars
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 6:47 PM
Subject: FS:SHOP MANUALS


> I have a number of used manufacturers automotive shop and service
>manuals for sale. Various years & makes. GM-1951 to 81;

<MAJOR NON OLDS SNIP>
> Email me your requirements to fgullage@nf.sympatico.ca ; I'll reply
>with description and cost if I have it.
>
>Thanks, Fred

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:23:50 -0500
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:46:09 -0600
From: Tom Gannon <kathygannon@sprintmail.com>
Subject: OLDS '68 NINETY-EIGHT

I am looking for a hi/low beam relay amd a window regulator for my OLDS
'68 NINETY-EIGHT. If anyone can help me out with this little delema I
would really appreciate it. As you know these parts are hard to find and
few and far between.
                                            Thankyou olds owner
P.S. If you have an air conditioning system  
or an "NINETY-EIGHT" embelem that goes to the right fender
it would really help me out also.

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:30:50 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds only show and go

In a message dated 2/9/99 10:46:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, rebel1@raex.com
writes:

<< Scott,
     I think that sounds like a cool idea - I know I'm planning on being there
 (hopefully the paint will be dry by then...)
 Todd Daenzer
 All the toys put away for the winter...
 
 
 OLDS44272@aol.com wrote:
 
 >             Does anyone else from the list plan to go to the Norwalk ohio
 > show? Maybe we can all meet somewhere?.........SCOTT
 
 
 
 
  >>

          Maybe as the show gets closer, more people will know if they can go
or not.  It has been awhile since i was at Norwalk. Is there a major location
or a know site  on the track grounds or in the area near the track (like a
Mcdonald's or something?) that we could meet at?..........Just some
ideas.........SCOTT
    90 Cutlass Supreme   ( in need of paint)

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:37:54 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: The dual snokel incident

OK, everyone convinced me not to cut up the dual snorkel unit I currently
have.

In particular I'd like to thank John Carri for your input on the air inlet
systems unit.  I sometimes wonder about some of the adds in the back of the
cars mags, especially when there is an ad for finding Russian wifes on the
same page. ;-)  Your response reminded me of an actual photo layout from the
Oct '98 Issue of CC that I had forgot about.  There is a '63 Fairlane using
that airbox, and it looks decent.  I think I'm going to inquire about that.

I'd also like to thank everyone else for the different ideas and prospects
on how to go about doing what I want to do.  Also thanks to those of you
that made offers.  I'll keep you on file for future reference.

But for now I'm not going to do anything with the one I have.  It's in safe
hands.

Bill Reilly
mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
Web Page: (Not yet)

My Garage:
'83 Cutlass Ciera
'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
'85 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:39:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: Olds only show and go

Hey all.  How far is Norwalk from Milwaukee,
or Chicago if anybody knows.  Might be interested in a road trip.

I haven't paid close attention to the details.
What kind of a show do they put on- how many
cars and such.  Also, do they have a swap meet
to go along with it?  Just curious...

Thanks all
Kevin D. Wood
Dr-Olds@webtv.net
'72 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:38:25 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: 39 degree 425 and 455 pushrod difference

I'm no expert here but is there a possibility of a different cam
height from the crank centerline?  Probably not but I'm curious.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

>  As Jim C. pointed out(in a round about way) he may have a 455 block.  As
>to reasons for the push rod difference in length:
> 1. the block angle difference
> 2. if it has the 0.921" lifters, they may also be longer(never bothered to
>measure
> mine)
> 3. variations in rocker configurations(i.e. my '65 A heads) may account
>for some
> as well as they are different than later 45 degree block pushrods.
>
>Later,
>
>Paul Brillhart
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:58:36 -0800
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:50:32 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

>well, the Oldsmobile 350 started before the Chevy 350...

As much as I'd like to believe that, the Chevy 350 was introduced on the new
1967 Camaro, when Olds was still dropping the 330 into the Cutlass.
_______________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry   MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:50:30 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re:  39 degree 425 and 455 pushrod difference

> The 425 is a 39 degree/.842" block, just like the 455s. This is why i'm
>puzzled. The only thing I can surmise is the deck is farther away from the
>crank C/L on the 425, than on the 455? The math i posted hints that this
>may be the case, and the 425 pushrods are longer..

It's not the deck, but rather the difference in valvestem length that
accounts for the difference in pushrod length even between engines with the
same CBA.
_______________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry   MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:50:35 GMT
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
Subject: Re: Rocker Pedestal Shims

>Do any of you have any idea why someone would put 16/32's shims underneath
>my rocker arm pedestals?

Well, you usually use rocker shims to fine-tune the lifter preload when you
buy longer pushrods (one way to adjust a non-adjustable valvetrain). But,
these shims are usually on the order of .020" or .035", not .5"!

If they are there to cover up a problem, figure out what that is and get
back to parts that are somewhat closer to stock. With that 1/2" shim there,
you give the rocker pivot a fulcrum 1/2" up from where the last thread of
the rocker bolt engages the head, and thus you're more likely to break a
rocker bolt off in the head. Not fun, not necessary.
_______________________________________________
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http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:52:31 EST
From: Bbymks4@aol.com
Subject: Re: modifying a dual snorkel

                            I had a dual snorkel that came out of a Delta 88,
with a 455
                            engine. Remember that the big cars had the big
motors, and
                            alot of them had dual snorkels. (just another
option for trying
                            to find one of these things.) I would imagine that
there are
                            quite a few 73-? cars in the wrecking yards that
have the
                            duals, and they are already modified for the
H.E.I.
            
                            good luck from........Steve M.
                            
                            1-' 73 442

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:58:00 EST
From: Beach324@aol.com
Subject: What Would a Fair Price Be?

Would anyone have an opinion as to the fair value of a 1928 Oldsmobile,
4-door, with less than 25K original miles, kept in heated garage all these
years, no rust, all original, in excellent condition inside and out.  Runs
great.  Never restored.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Larry

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:54:23 EST
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: Re: hagerty insurance

he never mentioned milage.  i told him i wanted to use it to drive to and from
school every day.  he said they couldn't cover it.  so i made a comment "what
if i was driving the car to school to work on it?"  he said that would be
fine.  he asked what kind of work i do and i told him i'm restoring the car.
that's about it.

mikeytvb@aol.com
70 442 hc

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:52:47 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: OLDSMOBILE vs OLDS W-455 intakes

Tony Waldner wrote:
> 
> Hey Everyone --
> 
> Does anybody know the REAL story behind OLDSMOBILE W-455 intakes and the
> supposed OLDS W-455 intakes?  I have heard stories of the mold breaking at
> the Winters Foundry casting plant. I have also witnessed back in the mid to
> late 70s guys grinding off the MOBILE on the intakes.  I asked the guy why
> he was doing that to the intake, and his reply was very typical of the
> '70s.  "Olds" sounds more cool than "Oldsmobile"!  At the time I tended to
> agree.
> 
> I have owned 4 1970 W-30's over the years and all of mine said OLDSMOBILE
> W-455 on the intake.  I have had 2 1970 W-31's and both of these also said
> OLDSMOBILE W-350. I heard that Winters Foundry casted these manifolds in
> lots of 1000 or so. My W-30 Sports Coupe was made in October 1969 and my
> W-30 convertible was made in April 1970. Both cars have the OLDSMOBILE
> W-455 script.
> Tony
> 

Tony,

Although I do not have an answer as to the reason 
for the two 1970 W-30 intakes, the broken mold
at Winters sounds like a logical explanation.    
As near as I have been able to document, the 
manifold (406115) changed from reading 
OLDSMOBILE W-455 to OLDS W-455 in early 
December of 1969.  The earliest OLDS W-455
casting date (located on the underside
of the manifold on the exhaust cross over)
I have found is 12-5-69.  It seems they made
a whole slew of them in that time period.
As the overwhelming majority of (406115)
OLDS W-455 have casting dates between 
12-5-69 through 12-11-69.  These were
in use on 1970 W-30's sometime shortly
thereafter.  As to a specific date for
the on-car change, I couldn't say for sure.  
Although I have not personally encountered 
an original 1970 W-30 built after February
that didn't have the OLDS W-455 intake.
So your April 1970 W-30 with the early 
OLDSMOBILE W-455 lettering is a bit of a
mystery to me.      
Regarding the 1970 W-31 intake (406114).  
All of these should read: OLDSMOBILE W-350.    


Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 
Portland, Oregon  503-244-8249

Web Sire:
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com

E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:23:29 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket 350

That is a sweet engine!!  It should be worth at least $750.  Remember 
your time isn't cheap either!  

>   The situation is this:  I've got a complete 68 C/S four door hardtop 
I
>bought on a lark last week.  The engine is a sweet running 310 HP 
Rocket
>350.  I am not in the business of selling parts, so I don't have much 
of a
>clue what any of the parts could be worth.  So, in comes this guy, and 
he
>bellies up to me an' he sez, "Hey.  I'll give yez $500 for the engine".
>Sounded good to me.  So I tell another guy.  He says that $500 is not
>anywhere enough for a slick running complete engine.  I don't wish 
either of
>us to get the short end of the stick here.  What do you guys think?  
Bear in
>mind that I have to pull the engine, and that it is complete from oil 
pan to
>air cleaner.  On the by now customary tenterhooks, Peter.
>
>
>
>


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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:13:38 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: Headlight Surgery - Temp Gone

Good luck to everyone having surgery.  I hope everything goes well for each of
you and hope to see you back on the list real soon.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:34:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff & Sherie Stanish <stanishj@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: 75 H/O T-Top Gaskets

I've seen ads in Hemmings Motor News

On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Marc Leizza wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> Does anybody know where I could get the T-Top Gaskets for my 75 H/O????
> And while I'm at it, how bout a H/O digital Tach and also the H/O T-Top
> carrying cases???
> 
> Any Help would be extremely appreciated
> 
> Thanks, 
> Marco
> 

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:33:46 -0500
From: Brian Kerr <bkerr@golden.net>
Subject: Virtual Car Show

List:

My car and its story is up on Brycemans Virtual Car Show. Check it out
and tell me what you think.

Brian Kerr
69 Cutlass Conv

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:45:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff & Sherie Stanish <stanishj@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: 455 assembly expertise

Get an Olds Chassis service manual for your year 455 engine.  What I found
in the valve train critical is the Valve stem height.  You have to check
it within tolerence. Olds doesn't have adjustment like Chevy.  Most
machine shops don't pay attention to this.

On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Gregory McNeil wrote:

>  I am a novice engine builder looking for valve train assembly advise.I
> had the short block prof. assembled and I have already torqued down the
> heads and the cam and timing gears installed.The cam is a Compcams
> 260H-10 and I am using stock springs,rocker arms,and pushrods.The only
> other valvetrain I have assembled was on a small block chevy,and I'm
> sure I didn't assemble it right.Any and all assembly and
> adjustments(torque specs,lash,etc)would be GREATLY appreciated.
>           THANK YOU
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:48:57 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: 39 degree 425 and 455 pushrod difference

Hi,
   I'm no expert either but I might know why the pushrods are a different
length. Could the camshaft have a smaller base circle that would require
longer pushrods? In some cam catalogs they state you'll need either longer
pushrods or an adjustable rocker system when installing a small base circle
cam. Just a thought,
TTYL,
Gene

At 08:38 PM 2/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm no expert here but is there a possibility of a different cam
>height from the crank centerline?  Probably not but I'm curious.

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:51:45 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Rocker Pedestal Shims

Did you mean to say 16/32?  As others have mentioned, that's 
a lot but here are some general reasons why someone may have
put shims in.  Most are related to a bad valve job.    

1)  Valves seated to high in the heads.    

2)  Wrong valves (too long)

3)  Wrong lifters (too long)

4)  Milled/surfaced the top/bottom of the head

5)  Wrong pushrods (too short)

If your not hearing the lifters clicking then it's likely that if
you pull the shims out that the valves will hang open and
never seat.  Will take a bit of detective work to determine
what the actual cause is.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/


>Do any of you have any idea why someone would put 16/32's shims underneath
>my rocker arm pedestals?
>
>My mechanic found them there, put in purposefully by the builder for a
>reason unknown to us.
>
>Look forward to your thoughts.
>
>thanks
>cf

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:48:57 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

No it wasnt, 67 and 68 Camaro's still had 327's, look it up, i got you here,
im positive

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:03:13 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TADA!!! Yipee!! Now what?

I ran into this problem putting a 400TH in a friends 79 T/A.  We pulled 
the crossmember back to the point it needed to be a drilled new holes in 
the frame.  It worked fine.




>I also broke a small part of the lip of the distributor base off. The
>transmission TH375 is NOT the same length as a TH350. The crossmember 
is too
>far forward! So, I placed a jack under the tranny while finishing the 
engine
>mount bolts. Well, I moved the car, and the jack slipped, and the
>distributor caught the trans tunnel. OOPS! Oh well...
>
>So, I have no idea what to do about the trans. I used the trans bracket 
to
>rest the tranny on..I guess I'll have to have someone come over and 
weld
>brackets to the subframe..any ideas on what to do? Any  universal trans
>mounts available?


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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:07:10 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Non olds: what the heck is E-bay?

It is very addictive.  I always try to watch the final few minutes also.  
Sometimes I don't even did on the item tell the last minute be fore it 
closes.






>Just a note to potential bidders, you should monitor the item in the 
last few
>minutes of the auction.  I bid on an item and was the high bidder for 2 
days
>only to be out-bid in the last couple of minutes.  Maybe if I was 
watching that
>one I would have upped my bid once I knew someone else was interested.
>
>It's addictive.



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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:15:01 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: C-Head Question

- ----------
> From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
>
> Hi,
>    Let's say I have a 455 with a slightly hotter than stock cam and other
> mild performance mods, would I notice any difference by upgrading my 2"
> valve C-heads to 2.07"? Would the performance gain be worth the cost of
the
> upgrade? This would be in a typical street car with street gearing and
> tires. Thanks,
> Gene

As any machine shops price would be different from my local shop all I can
say is I priced this procedure out.  It was $550.00 (Canadian) -- $380.00
US approx.



Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:10:22 -0700
From: "Larry Pegg" <nurelic@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

According to pages 19 - 20 of "Guide to GM  muscle cars" the 350 Chevy came
in 67 camaro

lp
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gutlass66@aol.com <Gutlass66@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350


>No it wasnt, 67 and 68 Camaro's still had 327's, look it up, i got you
here,
>im positive
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:07:05 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Drew is back and looking for a nice 76-88 Olds to drive this summer

Hey all,

Been off the list for a few months.  Busy times here at the radio stations
with all the holiday commercials and post-holiday odds & ends that need to be
taken care of.  But I'm back now and with a new screenname besides (hey, it's
as close to "Rocket" as I could get; all the good Oldsmobile screennames are
already taken on AOL.)

I'm looking for a nice Rocket to drive this summer.  Ideally, a 76-80 Cutlass
or a 77-80 Ninety-Eight Regency.  Would also be interested in exceptionally
nice 77-80 Deltas and maybe 81-85 Deltas, 81-84 Ninety-Eights, or 81-88
Cutlasses...but would prefer the earlier models for their styling, bigger
engines, and lack of engine computers.  I can't afford a show car (I work in
radio!), so I'm just looking for a nice daily driver that I can rely on to get
me from here to there.  The nicer, the better.  Prefer an Olds 260/307/350/403
under the hood with bigger being better.  Gas is .89/gallon now, so who cares
about mileage?  No offense, but I'm NOT interested in the following: V-6
models, diesels, manual transmission cars, 78-80 Cutlass Salons
("bustlebacks"), junkers, cars that have been abused, or cars that have been
modified.  Again, I'm not looking for something to take to the track, just a
nice late 70s-early 80s Olds that I can take care of and enjoy.  Grandma's
powder blue '79 Cutlass Supreme with 40,000 miles on a 260 automatic would be
perfect here.  Also...and this might be the tough part...you gotta be within
reasonable distance of Hays, Kansas so that I can get to you.  Hope I'm not
being too picky here.  Let me know what you have!  Thanks :-)

- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-
 Midday guy on Mix 103FM
 Live audio at www.mix103fm.com

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:22:17 -0700
From: "Larry Pegg" <nurelic@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: LISTEN TO THIS C...

sickem Igor

LP
- -----Original Message-----
From: Igor T. '81 DRB 455 <igor455@home.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:39 PM
Subject: LISTEN TO THIS C...


>Today at school (University of Calgary), a group of environmentalists put a
>protest ticket on a bunch of windshields (kinda like a Parking ticket).
>Basically condemning driving, telling us that we are killing the ozone,
etc.
>I have no problem with that, BUT.....I got one and my friend got one.  I
>drive a '81 Regency which has a 307 in great shape, 2.56 gears and OD.  It
>is also PROPANE powered (and has a sticker) which makes it much more
>environment friendly then most gas car regardless of size.  My friend
drives
>a '79 GMC truck with a newer 350.  So, we decided to look around campus and
>see what cars got this sticker.  Guess what, all older, big American cars
>and all NA trucks.  Not just boats like mine, but even mid '80s and early
>'90s cars.  The only excluded NA cars were new Sunfires, Neons, GEOs, etc.
>NOT ONE JAP CRAP got this.  NOT ONE.  There is tons of them at my school
>that blow blue smoke so bad that it is difficult to drive behind them.
THEY
>DON'T POLLUTE!?  No Japanese truck got one either.  The pamphlet did not
say
>anything about the type of car, but about pollution in general.  It
>condemned ALL and ANY vehicle pollution.  SO WHY did only we get it.
>Tomorrow I am going to talk to Campus security and see who puts this up,
>then go have a little word with them.  I bet most of them drive and I bet
>the one responsible for this drives a HONDA.  Hmmm, maybe I will ask him to
>go for a race and then demolition derby against my Delta, after which we
can
>go for a sniff test and see who uses OIL.  Can't WAIT.
>
>Igor Todorovic
>1981 Delta 88 (455/th400/3.23 posi)
>1981 98 Regency (307/200-4R/propane)
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:13:31 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

according my "standard catalog of american cars" chevy didn't release or put
the 350 in ANY car until 69, so blah, and that book of yours also said the 442
started in 65, so i dont trust it

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:31:00 PST
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: NEW CAR CRAFT 

anybody see the new CAR CRAFT mag?
in the reader's ride's thare is a 64 cheby malibu wagon with a olds 455!  
it's built like a w33 ,it does the 1/4 in 14.30s.

and in the STRAIGHT SCOOP they talk about the oldsmobile numbers swap 
meet guide,it sale's for $12,well worth it.

Thanks
      Ryan. 


  My  -------   -------
            /  |
           /   |
          /     ------
         /            |
        /             |
       /        ------    DELTA 88
Ryan D Beck
           Riviera72sss@hotmail.com


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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:33:53 EST
From: WMACHINES@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds only show and go

In a message dated 99-02-10 21:33:42 EST, you write:

<<     Maybe as the show gets closer, more people will know if they can go
 or not.  It has been awhile since i was at Norwalk. Is there a major location
 or a know site  on the track grounds or in the area near the track (like a
 Mcdonald's or something?) that we could meet at?..........Just some
 ideas.........SCOTT
     90 Cutlass Supreme   ( in need of paint)
  >>
Just meet at the track.  Like I said before, test and tune on Friday and then
regular race program on Saturday (gates open at 1:00pm) and then Sunday is the
actually DMR Oldmobile Power Open.  My local club, the Street Rockets will be
at the track on Saturday to race the regular program.  Last year we had 16
cars there. The host hotel is the Amerihost Inn in Norwalk.  There are several
members from the Street Rockets that are on this list such as RPTW32@aol.com,
W451973@aol.com, F87olds@glblnet.com, Mcornea@ford.com, WMACHINES@aol.com and
so on


W MACHINES (Mark Prince)
72 442 W-30 Race Rocket
visit the Street Rockets web page 
http://members.aol.com/WMACHINES/site5.html

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:34:37 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: where for 2.5" Cutlass Exhaust Downpipe?

>BTW Torque Tech in Georgia has got mandrel bent for after the muffler and
>can sell me 90?s & 45?s that I could cut and weld for the down pipes, but
>my concern with that approach is that there will be slag etc. on the inside
>of the pipe that will restrictive.
>
>Any opinions/experience on this?

I've done this for cars I've tubbed that got 3" to 3 1/2" systems as
theres not really any other way to do it.  As long as you do the fitting
right, and your competent with either a MIG or TIG there will be no
slag inside the pipes.  Can't remember what car this is going into
but Flowmaster sells 2 1/2" exhaust system for 64-74 A bodies that's
mandrel bent for $280.  This is a header back kit, but would cut down
on a lot of fitting.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:45:14 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: The dual snokel incident

Hey,  Whats wrong with Russian mail order brides?????????????????












OK  I am kidding

Vinny

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:49:11 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: The dual snokel incident

yeah, i think my mom is one of them

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:53:51 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: MINT 1978 Olds 98 F/S Near Houston, TX

Found this in the Auto Trader Online.  Someone needs to grab this one!  I
would, if I could get to it:

1978 OLDSMOBILE 98 REGENCY, BABY BLUE WITH WHITE VINYL TOP, BLUE VELOUR
INTERIOR. ALL POWER OPTIONS, TILT, CRUISE, PW, PDL, PWR SEAT. 36,000 ORIGINAL
MILES. SECOND OWNER. EXCELLENT CLASSIC VEHICLE. $3600. (281) 487-7796
Location: Pasadena, TX


- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-
 Midday guy on Mix 103FM
 Live audio at www.mix103fm.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:00:07 EST
From: Onebil2mny@aol.com
Subject: Re: Smokey & Bandit experts???

In a message dated 2/9/1999 10:13:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

<< I know t/a's with the 400 are 4-speeds, but wasn't the bandit Auto?  My 
 memory fails me. >>


some of the cars used were....   like the one for the burn out seen.  Also,
you can ocasionally catch him shifting.  but otherwise it was an auto car

Bill K

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:02:48 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

Nope!!!  1968 for the 350 olds!! 1967 for 350 chevy.  When was the last 
350 olds?  1979 I think!!!!!!!!


>
>well, the Oldsmobile 350 started before the Chevy 350...
>


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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:47:45 -0800
From: Greg Rollin <supercars@transport.com>
Subject: Re: 455 assembly expertise

Gregory McNeil wrote:
> 
>  I am a novice engine builder looking for valve train assembly advise.I
> had the short block prof. assembled and I have already torqued down the
> heads and the cam and timing gears installed.The cam is a Compcams
> 260H-10 and I am using stock springs,rocker arms,and pushrods.The only
> other valvetrain I have assembled was on a small block chevy,and I'm
> sure I didn't assemble it right.Any and all assembly and
> adjustments(torque specs,lash,etc)would be GREATLY appreciated.
>           THANK YOU



Gregory,

Since the stock Olds V8 valvetrain has no means 
of adjustment, it is as simple as just torque the 
rocker stand bolts down at 25 ft lbs.  If your new 
lifters have no oil in them, you'll be able to 
torque them down regardless of the position of the
cam.  Just bring both bolts on the stand down at 
the same rate.  In the case of the lifters being      
full of oil, you should bring each cylinder to TDC 
before tightening the bolts.  The reason for the
different procedures is that a lifter without oil
will have only the resistance of the plunger spring
to depress.  With a lifter that is full of oil you 
will have to overcome the pressure built up within.
Bringing the cylinder to TDC will ensure that you do
not have one valve open.  Which when tightening the 
stand will put the rockers and stand in a bind and 
can break or fracture the stand.  You would also need 
to tighten the open valve side of the stand down very 
slowly as to bleed off some of the oil in the lifter 
so as not to risk bending a pushrod.
Since there is no means of adjustment with the stock
setup, it is imperative that you check the lifter
preload.  There are many factors that can and will
change the preload (i.e. head gasket thickness,
surfaced heads/block, improper valve job, different
cam profiles, etc.).  The first thing you need to 
check the valve stem height.  Lay a straight edge
across the top of the valve stems.  With a proper
valve job, there should be no more than only a few
thousandths between them.  If they are all over the
place, I would suggest taking the heads back to
the machine shop and have them equalized.    
(It always amazes me how often "machinists" tend
to overlook this).  If the stem heights are equal,
then bring a cylinder to TDC.  Tighten down the
bolts until you achieve zero lash.  (Zero lash is
the point when tightening down the rocker stand that
the rocker just makes contact with the push rod 
and the valve stem, and any further tightening of
the bolt is met with resistance).  Now with a 
feeler gauge, measure the distance between the 
cylinder head and the bottom of the stand.  
Most lifters optimum operating range is .020 
to .040 preload (except Speed-Pro and some 
others so be sure to check the mfgs spec.).  
Preload is the amount of lifter plunger travel 
after zero lash.  To achieve the proper preload, 
you may need to shim the stand or grind the stand.
In either case, be sure to shim or remove the 
SAME AMOUNT from both legs of the stand.
  
Hope this helps.


Greg Rollin
Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!) 
Portland, Oregon  503-244-8249

Web site:
http://www.supercarsunlimited.com

E-mail: supercars@transport.com

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:03:00 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Drag Racing expertise needed

How exactly are you figuring out the time from the mph?  I'm
mistified by this.  What those numbers tell me is that he is 
slow launching off the line which eats up time, but on top end
it's pulling hard thus the high mph.  I don't see how you can
predict a fuel shortage problem off of two numbers since there
could be other reasons for the car dying on top end as you
suggest.  I'd be willing to bet the major improvement in ET's
would be in the 60 ft times and not in the top end.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

>Also just a quick point for Eddy.
>
>94.63 work out to 14.30 second in the 1/4 mile.
>If you are only going 14.63 this says you are having a fuel shortage
>problem.  This repair  will net you a better ET alone.  
>Try to work with what you have first, maybe.  There seem to be room for
>inprovement in your car as it sits.
>
>
>Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:03:12 EST
From: Onebil2mny@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJ rumor was RE: Inter State Emission testing?

In a message dated 2/9/1999 10:37:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SemantanaC@tce.com writes:

<< Since the GTO Nats are in New Jersey this year and they have rather
 stringent emissions laws, there was the rumor that all people driving their
 goats into NJ would be checked at the border.  If you didn't pass, you
 didn't pass, literally.  You wouldn't be allowed to drive the car into the
 state.  Whether there's any truth to this or any part of this rumor I don't
 know.  But, like I said it was a rumor. >>


Only problem is that these cars would have to meet the requirements of their
year of manufacture....   easy enough!

Bill K

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:06:21 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TADA!!! Yipee!! Now what?

I used the 350 crossmember in my friends T/A  for his 400th.  Just 
pulled it back and drilled new holes!

>> So, I have no idea what to do about the trans.
>_______
>
>I'm no F-body expert, but it sure seems to me that at least some second 
gen
>F-cars used TH400s (same length as your TH375).  For example, I've 
gotta
>believe that the 70 big block Camaros and the SD-455 Trans Ams at a 
minimum
>used the TH400 (along with probably every big block T/A ever made).  
Are
>these crossmembers available from the F-body supply houses, or in 
wrecking
>yards?
>
>Joe Padavano
>padavano.joe@orbital.com
>
>66 442
>68 W-30
>69 H/O
>69 442
>70 W-30
>
>
>
>


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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:08:28 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

In a message dated 2/10/99 11:06:31 PM Central Standard Time,
jasonshreve@hotmail.com writes:

> Nope!!!  1968 for the 350 olds!! 1967 for 350 chevy.  When was the last 
>  350 olds?  1979 I think!!!!!!!!

1980, I think...in the 88s & 98s, plus the W-30 option in the Cutlass
1979 was the last year for the 403
1988 was the last year for the 307 (Cutlass Classic)

- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-
 Midday guy on Mix 103FM
 Live audio at www.mix103fm.com
  

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:10:14 -0800
From: "Andrew Conkey" <andrewc@novell.uidaho.edu>
Subject: window rattles

I think this subject came up a while ago, but not relative to delta 
88s. The driver's window in my '84 coupe rattles when closing the 
door, and lately seems to be worse when driving than 6 mos ago. 
Is this a common problem? Any simple fix? These are NOT power 
windows, if that matters...

thanks
Andrew
84 Delta 88

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:09:40 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

teh chevy 350 came out in 69, why do all the 68 chevelles and camaros have
327s?

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:22:43 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: window rattles

It all depends.  Could be several different things, some
of which are just adjustments and others require parts
from the Automotive Salvage Recycling Center.  The
only way to know for sure is to pull the door panel and
take a look.  If you can move the glass side to side then
you can usually adjust the felt guides.  Forward/back 
movement is usually a worn out pivot or roller.  Be 
careful before you start adjusting because everything is
adjustable and you don't want to make things worse.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:24:34 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Drag Racing expertise needed

As was suggested by Ken, I would suspect the motor being dragged
down by the weight of the car compounded by the small cid.  This is
something you don't really have to worry about in an auto but an easy
thing to try is to slip the clutch off the line a bit.  If the stumble is
less
noticeable while still pulling hard, you know the cause and can
work on a solution.  BTW what are your 60 ft times?

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

>I'm using 25" tall tires now, and when I launch the tires stick! The
problem
>I'm having is that it seems like it doesn't matter at what RPM I launch the
>car has the same problem. The car seems to stumble of the line, I don't
have
>this problem on the street where at 3000 RPM the wheels go up in smoke. I
>realize that at the strip there's a lot more traction but I can't figure
this
>stumbling out. I even installed jet ext on the carb thinking that maybe it
>wasn't getting fuel but no luck. Any ideas??
>
>Eddie

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:26:42 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

Your right, they did have 327's.........and 302's and 350's and BB's.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

>No it wasnt, 67 and 68 Camaro's still had 327's, look it up, i got you
here,
>im positive

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:31:03 EST
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

In a message dated 2/10/99 9:20:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, Gutlass66@aol.com
writes:

<< 
 teh chevy 350 came out in 69, why do all the 68 chevelles and camaros have
 327s? >>


i must have an odd-ball.......my '68 chevelle has a 307.........lol

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