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oldsmobile-digest      Monday, February 15 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1778



SV: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Rip off
Conv't Top Replacement $$
1 455 New Motor Mount 4sale
Re: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)
Re: BAD American Cars 
Re: BB Intake
Re: Nash Bridges
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)
Re: My Page now has pictures!
Re: BAD American Cars 
Re: Rip off
Re: Master Lou
Re: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)
Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale
Re: Who is Tamraz? (was Re: ds682 anyone ????)
Re: Nash Bridges
Re: It's ALIVE!!!
Junkyard Finds
Parts List - March
Re: Rip off
Re: My Page now has pictures!
Re: Part numbers
Re: Nash Bridges
Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale
Re: Rip off
Re: Nash Bridges
RE: New member, and a small prob(long)
Re: Part numbers
Re: Nash Bridges
RE: Rip off
Re: Heater Core
Re: Rip off
Re: Rip off
Re: Heater Core
Re: Rip off
Re: Rip off
Re: Rip off
RE: Rip off
Re: Rip off
RE: Heater Core
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
The Thickness of the Springtime Thread
Re: Rip off
Re: welding exhaust divider
Re: A Tale of Two Cars
Re: The Thickness of the Springtime Thread
RE: Heater Core
Re: welding exhaust divider
433?
Re: welding exhaust divider
RE: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)
speaking of ripoff
We Have an Olds Hater
Re: It's ALIVE!!!
re: Nash Bridges
Brighter lights?
address?
Re: The Thickness of the Springtime Thread
clocked
Re: clocked
Re: Rocket? Kettering.
Re: The Thickness of the Springtime Thread
# 6 heads on a 455
Re: speaking of ripoff
Re: speaking of ripoff
Re: # 6 heads on a 455

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:59:47 +0100
From: "Trond-Jarle Pedersen" <trondped@c2i.net>
Subject: SV: A Tale of Two Cars

> I still can't spell Hundai, or am refusing to learn, OOPS thats a Korean
> car isn't it. 


Ahh the magnifisent Korean car`s
I used to sail on a  ro/ro ship and i can tell you one thing:
the absolutly worst thing we knew was to pic up cars in korea.
after driving them out in the US ore Europa we had to have the
flippers(thats the filipin crew) to sweep the decks for parts and lose
bolts that had falen off the "cars".This was in the early 90 but i dont
think they have gotten so mutch better.
My mom both a sangyoung 4wd witch was supose to have a mercedes drivetrain.
No way that a mercedes drivetrain is that weak.
After studying the owners manual it says there that its prodused in korea
with german blueprints. 
Why dont it says so in the comersial????
Go figure...




  
Trond-Jarle Pedersen
ICQ:15898213
mailto:trondped@c2i.net

69 F-85

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:10:45 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

>Don't believe everything your hear about prices.


My family checked and test drove.  I did not "hear it" but rather had the
salesmen work it out.

>I have a 1997 Toyota Avalon 6-cyl (only way it comes), airbags,
>anti-lock brakes, power-everything, overdrive, etc.  and I paid $21,500
>NOT $30,000 Brand New.  Our T-100 (brand new) sticker price was 29,900
>and we paid 21,000.


That is a good price, but Toyota is not the most expensive.  I was talking
about CAN. dollars just in case you were not.  If you were, it is a good
price, but if not then multipy that by 1.5 and you will get what I said.
Anyway, after looking we decided to buy a used Intrepid which was 6 monts
old and had a little less then 20,000 miles for $16,000 NO TAX (which is 7%
+ all the new car taxes).  The same girlfriends mom bought a new one and she
had a few options we did not (mag wheels, driving lights, ground-effects).
She paid $20,900 and after 30 month lease she gave it back with 15,000 miles
on the odometer and no troubles.  BUT, that is because of the pampered
15,000 miles.  Give it another 30,000 and the trans might be toast.

>You need someone to help you buy your next car.  Sounds like you could
>have saved even more on that Intrepid!!!


Like I said, it was 16,000.  My next car will be like my '81, $1500 bucks,
need nothing, has everything, cost nothing to run (more then 1/2 the price
of gas, 2.56 rear + OD) and I will get rid of it when I starts getting
problems, by which time it will cost me about $5 per month for a big, roomy,
luxury car.  And best of all, I will be SAFE.  I hung around a body shop
doing some work for about 4 months and have seen enough.  Don't start
another debate about new Vs. old safety I really don't care what people will
say.  I have seen enough Hondas and Toyotas, Nissans and Subarus there.  I
have also seen GM and Chrysler products, in every size.  Me and all the
people that worked there mutually agree that bigger is better, and Japanese
cars just don't have the "bigger" part.  There was an old guy who worked
there and who has been in that trade for about 30 years.  He drives and
loves VW, but he said that my '81 Vs. any Japanese car is like 3to1 in
strength, despite what the books say.  BUT, again, like I said, I have seen
enough to have MY own opinion.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:24:54 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Rip off

To all;
The guy I am looking for is Tom Palasty, he's from Vassar, Michigan, he's
not on the list, told me he got my name from a friend who IS on the list.
He told me his buddies name was Dennis, who IS on the list. He has not
cashed my check but it's been three months since I sent it to him for a
left front grille for the 75 Cutlass Supreme. If anyone knows him I would
appreciate if you would mention that to him please, either send me the
grille or the check back. Have not heard a word since Nov., hate to drive
that far to get arrested, but not many choices left. Patience is not a
virtue I possess when money is involved. Any help would be appreciated,
maybe he's snowed in, I hope so, for all our sake!
Master Lou
lbiggs@intertek.net
PS Takes a lot, but.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:40:12 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Conv't Top Replacement $$

I was wondering what people paid to have their convertible tops replaced on
a 70-72 442. Was the work satisfactory and did the top look and last? I
have heard prices from $400 - $1500 (includes top & Labor). 
What things should I watch out for?


Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:41:49 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: 1 455 New Motor Mount 4sale

I have 1 NEW 455 motor mount for sale for 70-72 "A" body Olds. I bought the
mount and never used it because I installed 350 mounts. Asking $10.00 plus
shipping...RESPOND PRIVATE!!

Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:32:23 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)

Please Don't, No Mud Flaps either.

- ----------
> From: carl g <cngtwo@yahoo.com>
> To: olds list <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 2:11 PM
> 
> 
> i have recently bought a 84 cuttlass and would like to see what it
> would look like with a bra on the front. i was just wondering if
> anyone could email me a photo of a cuttlass with a bra on it so i can
> see if i like how it looks.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:32:18 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: BAD American Cars 

That's exactly what was "wrong" with my mom's old Ciera wagon.  It was a
fine car, and ran great, but ALWAYS had electrical problems.  There were
just too many bugs in the system...I guess the EE/CS people were napping
that year.  :-)

Even with all the computerized stuff on my 307, it still runs like a top,
because the motor design is 20 years old and the suspension technology is
age-old.  When my friend totalled his Probe, we ran into a rock cliff (on
*my* side of the car as it was...) and as it slammed into the cliff, an
out-jutted rock caught the right-rear tire and tore it away.  Those little
Probes have independent suspension on all four corners, and the right-rear
suspension just ripped off the car, twisting the unibody in the process.  I
do have to say that both of us walked away without a scratch, but the car
ended up being totalled.  There's no way a steel axle (like we have) would
have ripped apart like that...the car would have been tossed around, but it
would have been in one piece, unlike the Probe.

Fuel injection is nice, and there's lots of performance potential, but I
just prefer my rock-solid 750-cfm 4-bbl. and 8-cylinder engine.  :-)

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Igor T. '81 DRB 455 <igor455@home.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 5:55 PM
Subject: BAD American Cars

>electronics stuff is.  Heat/Cold, static, etc.  Add this unproved, new (and
>complex) technology to the small, lightweight, also unproved engine and it
>is bound to suck.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:46 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: BB Intake

In a message dated 2/15/99 1:41:10 PM Central Standard Time, shang@connect.net
writes:

<< Anyone have a pre-72 (non EGR) intake for a BB they need to sell or get
 rid of? I want to get my 455 going this weekend and everyone is out of
 the Performer. Please respond privately. (shang@connect.net) Looking to
 spend around $40 (+shipping) or less.
  >>


Hey, we might have one around the shop...we are in DeSoto so you may just be
able to drive down here and get one

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:34:40 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Nash Bridges

>Mike;
>4 speed first gear was 2.66, 727 was 2.45 + torque multification (may not
>be a word) though the converter, missed the thread.

Yeah, I *don't* think that's a word...I think you mean multi*p*lication.
:-)

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:38:17 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

I had 279,000 on a 1976 TA w/400ci engine, burned less then a half quart
per 3000 miles, ran like a champ, and would smoke a Porsche Carrera up to
110 mph, never been apart, rocker gaskets, and three water pumps only. Oh,
sorry I changed plugs and rebuilt the carb once.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Igor T. '81 DRB 455 <igor455@home.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:44:49 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)

Low Rider??? have a Hula Girl in the back window.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Master Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:23 PM
> 
> Well, I don't have a photo, but I've seen it before and it loos prett
cool.
> the bra has the twin grill them to go along, and it's alright.  The car i
> saw it on was an 86 Cutlass that had every single add on you could think
of,
> ie. bra, leather mirror covers, curb feelers, 45 degree mudflaps, Mexican
> style antenna, ground effects, wing, rear window louvers, window tint,
> illuminated hood ornament, windshield banner, and a bunch of other stuff.
> It was the most terrible looking Cutlass I have ever seen. In DC, imagine
> that.  But the bra was cool.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:45:44 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: My Page now has pictures!

Ok.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Gutlass66@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: My Page now has pictures!
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:29 PM
> 
> get me the midi of oh canada, and i'll put it on.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:44:27 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: BAD American Cars 

There's no way a steel axle (like we have) would
>have ripped apart like that...the car would have been tossed around, but it
>would have been in one piece, unlike the Probe.


Just look how much our axles weigh. They have to be strong.  When I swapped
a rear-end I had to take the old axle out and put a new one in by my self.
Carry it from the back-yard into the garage and the other way as well. That
was fun.

>Fuel injection is nice, and there's lots of performance potential, but I
>just prefer my rock-solid 750-cfm 4-bbl. and 8-cylinder engine.  :-)


Yes, very nice when it all works.  I have to mention my dads Intrepid again,
but that is because it is the most recent FI car I have done anything with.
I know that some of the mid 80s Chryslers had electronic problems and even
my uncle had a few with his '89 Grand Sierra (350) and his '96 Sierra (4.3,
I think).  The Intrepid had no problems like that so far.  I guess they are
improving, but the Intrepid is still young, but it is older then the '95
truck.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:42:34 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rip off

In a message dated 2/15/99 5:27:03 PM Central Standard Time,
lbiggs@intertek.net writes:

<< To all;
 The guy I am looking for is Tom Palasty, he's from Vassar, Michigan, he's
 not on the list, told me he got my name from a friend who IS on the list.
 He told me his buddies name was Dennis, who IS on the list. He has not
 cashed my check but it's been three months since I sent it to him for a
 left front grille for the 75 Cutlass Supreme. If anyone knows him I would
 appreciate if you would mention that to him please, either send me the
 grille or the check back. Have not heard a word since Nov., hate to drive
 that far to get arrested, but not many choices left. Patience is not a
 virtue I possess when money is involved. Any help would be appreciated,
 maybe he's snowed in, I hope so, for all our sake!
 Master Lou
 lbiggs@intertek.net
 PS Takes a lot, but.
  >>


That prick called me at home,a week ago, last Sunday morning...he was given me
hell for not trusting him to send him money order ~"up front" ~for a restored
65 steering wheel. He really tried to make me sound like an A**hole for not
trusting him. Anyway he said I would have the wheel by wednesdayand when I see
it, I can send him $75 and I still haven't seen it . I probably never will. I
hope I see him at the "nats". I will make ~HIM~ feel like the real A**HOLE!

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:47:35 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Master Lou

Yes Master;
lbiggs@intertek.net - no ICQ yet, but working on it.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Master Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Master Lou
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:34 PM
> 
> hey Master Lou	
> what's your email address?  And do you have ICQ?
> Rabia majora

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:46:19 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)

lol, dont forget the dingle balls

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:48:33 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale

the color that seems to match closest from my eyes anyway is ppg ddl3524
that is a lacquer and the color is silver sand poly it is a 1983 gm color
(olds incidently) and is the color I have used on mine before looks good
give it a try they can mix it in a urethane and anti chip aditives can be
added take care....KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: CARMAN442@aol.com <CARMAN442@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale


>  I have a 1969 442 with SSII wheels. Anybody out there have a stock color
#
>for the grey paint?
>          CARMAN442

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:54:42 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Who is Tamraz? (was Re: ds682 anyone ????)

more of a paddock type outfit they have a lot of very generic stuff and a
little specific stuff not very many difficult to obtain parts they advertise
in just about every section of hemmings...KK
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jason Adcock <rocketolds@vt.edu>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 5:40 PM
Subject: Who is Tamraz? (was Re: ds682 anyone ????)


>I've heard of Tamraz many times here and other places, but don't know who
>they are.  Are they a Year-One type outfit?  Do they have a website I could
>visit...and what years of Olds do they cover?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jason Adcock
>mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
>http://members.xoom.com/jadcock
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shang <shang@connect.net>
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 6:07 PM
>Subject: Re: ds682 anyone ????
>
>
>>Year One still lists that center link in their latest catalog - $97. If
>>they do not have them, Tamraz lists it for $130
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:09:22 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Nash Bridges

by the way the cuda on the show nash bridges is a fake or rather a new
manufactured custom car sort of like the ac cobra replicars kind of kool
that there is a place reproducing old iron dont cha think?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Nash Bridges


>Mike;
>4 speed first gear was 2.66, 727 was 2.45 + torque multification (may not
>be a word) though the converter, missed the thread.
>Lou
>
>----------
>> From: Mike Sealey <rocket98for69@hotmail.com>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Nash Bridges
>
>> Olds content forced in: I'm still curious as to whether the allegedly
>> available '64 442 4-door sedan is rarer than a real '71 hemicuda.
>>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:54:17 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: It's ALIVE!!!

Bill;
Whats great is you take a bunch of metal parts, put them together and it
runs, it's alive! There is a good feeling with that. 
Baron Von Frankenstein

- ----------
> From: Bill Reilly <wjreilly@erols.com>
> To: oldsmobile <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>; Olds G Body
<olds_gbody@listbot.com>
> Subject: It's ALIVE!!!

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:53:26 -0500
From: Tony Molinaro <AMOLINARO@mbakercorp.com>
Subject: Junkyard Finds

Hey guys I visited a local junk yard and found the following olds stuff

1. Complete 66 toro with engine d block and  b heads still in the car from
the quick look over i am suprised it is in a junk yard.

2. Several other model year toro's with the motor gone I think the trannys
are there.

3. The junkyard sold it but is still there, waiting for the money story, a 70
toro with 37,000 miles on it. f block, e heads. I will be tracking this one.

4.Various 68-72 a body stuff mostly beat

Let me know if you have any interest in this stuff.


Tony Molinaro
69 442 4spd

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:03:19 -0500
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Parts List - March

PLEASE!
E me direct and
I'll get back to you A.S.A.P
 
 Robert Schinkel
 docbob@caninet.com
 
 1966  B cylinder heads  (bare heads) >   $100
 
 1967  C cylinder heads with small heat riser hole>   $150
          Magnufluxed  -  complete
 
 1968

  442 grill emblem >   $40
 Nos Side marker light gaskets>   $10 all
 Ashtray Door >  $8
 Convertible top cylinders > $25 ea.
 Rear defroster switch > $20
 Motor mount heat shield > $8
 Conv. Top latches  >20.pr
 Conv. Vent windows with frames good chrome incl. glass  >$75.pr.
 Reverse light lens good condition > $10
 442 Carb  #7028251 >$100
 442 Air Cleaner w/lower tube>$75
 Intake for 442 398662 with choke> $50
 Choke pulldown only >$20
 Power Antenna Switch  >$20
 Plastic headlight doors > $225
 
 1969

 Ashtray Doors   > $8
 Convertible top cylinders > $25
 Convertible Trunk Lid rustfree  > $150 
 Hood Hinges > $20pr
 442 Ashtray door with woodgrain Exc.>$12
 Motor mount heat shield  >$8
  Conv. Top latches >$20.pr
 Vacuum trunk switch >$20
 Taillight lens and some housings >$15 ea
 442 Taillight lenses $20ea
 69-72      Power window motors >  $20ea.
 
 1970
 
 Tail light lens (Cutlass) >  $15 ea
 Tail light lens (Supreme) > $20 ea
 Nos 455 Oil Dipstick tubes  > $20
 Lower Dash AC Vents (none 8 Track)>$80
 Dual Gate Shifter(shifter only)>$100
 Rear liscense plate brackets  > $10ea.
 Nos pass. side headlight frame(plastic)>  $75
 8 Track Complete (E me for details)>$100
 Nos fender script "Cutlass"  >  $25 ea
 Nos Horn Contact (sport wheel)  >  $25 ea
 F85 fender script >  $30 pr.
 Dash Plaques (Plastic around gauges W/ wood grain)   >   $20
 Convertible top cylinder > $25
 Hood Hinges > $15
 Motor mount heat shield> $5
 Conv. Top latches> $20.pr
 455 heads E casting> $100
 1 NOS rear Wheel well Molding>$50
 69-72      Power window motors> $25 ea.
 
 1971 & 1972
 Front bumper directional lens> $8 ea.
 72 fender mount antenna - complete> $20
 Tail light lens > $10 ea.                    
 Trunk lid script "O-L-D-S-M-O-B-I-L-E">  $20
 Dash Plaques (Wood Grain area around gauges) >$10
 Convertible top cylinders  > $25
 Hood Hinges   >$15
 Rear ¼ panel supreme extensions (supremes only)>$10
 Motor mount heat shield  >$5
 Conv. Top latches  >$20.pr
  69-72      Power window motors > $20 ea.
 
 1973
 Carb         7043256  >$40
 455 4BBL with crank drilled for 4 speed> $350

1974 & 75
Southern Fenders > $75ea.
442/Hurst Hood > $150 exc.

Shipping is extra 
Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:52:41 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rip off

hehe, If i see him, i'll kick him in the nuts, i hate people like that, he
shouldnt reperduuce anyways

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:49:09 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: My Page now has pictures!

find it lou, i want it, lol

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:16:27 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Part numbers

is the carb a holley or a rochester 2gc
- -----Original Message-----
From: Todd Thomas <OLDS72W30@webtv.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 6:25 PM
Subject: Part numbers


I picked up a tri-power intake manifold over the weekend, but I am not
to sure what it is for,the part number is 571145.
I also picked up a carb to go with it( just one ) the number on it is
7024110. I dont know if these parts are GM or not. If anyone knows what
these parts are for please let me know,I am stumped.
Todd Thomas
72W30
P.S. The manifold also has a D1 on it and the firing order 18736542.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:00:25 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Nash Bridges

Jason;
I'm a mechanic, not an English major, if spell check doesn't pick it up I'm
in deep doo doo Thanks buddy!
Lou.

- ----------
> From: Jason Adcock <rocketolds@vt.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Nash Bridges
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 5:34 PM
> 

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:45 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: 15" Olds rims 14" for sale

In a message dated 2/15/99 3:56:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, kerryk@CWIX.com
writes:

<< AM >>
year one has the pait

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:04:31 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Collyn:
You can ride with me, visitation is on Saturday. Burial on Sunday.
Lou

- ----------
> From: GT5726@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Rip off
> That prick called me at home,a week ago, last Sunday morning...he was
given me
> hell for not trusting him to send him money order ~"up front" ~for a
restored
> 65 steering wheel. He really tried to make me sound like an A**hole for
not
> trusting him. Anyway he said I would have the wheel by wednesdayand when
I see
> it, I can send him $75 and I still haven't seen it . I probably never
will. I
> hope I see him at the "nats". I will make ~HIM~ feel like the real
A**HOLE!
> 
> Collyn Eastham
> 65 442
> 65 Cutlass

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:59:26 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Nash Bridges

yeah, next will be a 70 W-30 convert, and a 66 w-30

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:19:49 +0000
From: Ben Markert <radu@ciris.net>
Subject: RE: New member, and a small prob(long)

At 11:08 AM 2/15/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Your loose steering can be fixed by removing the steering box and having
>it reworked (about 200$).
>
>Mickey
>'68 Cutlass "S" 350 Convertible

Meant loose as in I have to spin the wheel about 60 times(or so it seems)
to turn a corner, then another 60 times to bring it back. 

Ben Markert, aka Lord Radu Lykan

'68 Cutlass "S" 350, 4bbl, auto: Lila

THM homepage - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5290

The Xena Page - htpp://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2050

emails: radu@ciris.net , radu16@hotmail.com

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:22:43 -0500 (EST)
From: OLDS72W30@webtv.net (Todd Thomas)
Subject: Re: Part numbers

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:16:27 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
Subject: Re: Part numbers
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is the carb a holley or a rochester 2gc
- -----Original Message-----
From: Todd Thomas <OLDS72W30@webtv.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 6:25 PM
Subject: Part numbers


I picked up a tri-power intake manifold over the weekend, but I am not
to sure what it is for,the part number is 571145.
I also picked up a carb to go with it( just one ) the number on it is
7024110. I dont know if these parts are GM or not. If anyone knows what
these parts are for please let me know,I am stumped.
Todd Thomas
72W30
P.S. The manifold also has a D1 on it and the firing order 18736542.



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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:29:43 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Nash Bridges

Kerry:
Cool I agree.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@CWIX.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Nash Bridges
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:09 AM
> 
> by the way the cuda on the show nash bridges is a fake or rather a new
> manufactured custom car sort of like the ac cobra replicars kind of kool
> that there is a place reproducing old iron dont cha think?
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:30:45 -0500
From: "Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Rip off

Yeah!
Let's create a vendetta list and then kick some ass at nationals.  I do
nothing wrong ever, so my name can be kept off that list please sirs and
ma'ams.  Thank you , drive through.

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:27:17 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Heater Core

James, I have the same noise in my '70 442.  If I clamp off either hose, the
noise goes away.  Greg Rollin thinks that the control valve may be at fault,
or that an in line restrictor may have failed.  My core is original, though.
I have heard of after market cores producing this result.  It is not air in
the core, but coolant rushing through it that creates the sound.  To confirm
this, see if you can modulate the sound by moving the heater lever on the
dash.  I am working toward a solution for this situation, albeit in a
desultory fashion.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Quinn, James <JBQUINN@ZoneAutomation.com>
To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 1:15 PM
Subject: Heater Core


>Hi,
>This is weird and I'm wondering if anybody has any idea what's going on
>here.
>
>I just installed a mew heater core in my 69 Vista Cruiser. It went pretty
>smoothly. The heater core was an after market and fit pretty well once I
>messed with the brackets that hod it down.
>
>Here's the problem. After hooking the hoses up, I refilled the radiator and
>started the car. So far, everything's cool. Then later I go take it for a
>ride I get this whirling sound emanating from the heater box. I can feel it
>vibrate more and more with increased RPM's. Does anybody have a clue as to
>what is making this noise? Could it be an air bubble that is whirling
around
>inside the core? If so, how do I get rid of it? Any help would be awesome
>
>Thanks,
>Jim

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:41:40 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Ray;
You are a prince among men, no question there. The guy hasn't cashed my
check, so he's not a bad guy yet. God forbid he do dat! I just want a
grille, not part of him, but I will get something, one way or the other.
East St. Louis boy talking now. Darn shame we can't just bs and not have
this kind of thing.
Lou
- ----------
> From: Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Rip off

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:39:45 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Three months, and he has not cashed the check?  Put a stop order on that bad
boy, and get your grill elsewhere.  Maybe he's dead.  If so, he's not going
to send you your part ever.  The 911 call rules.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
To: Olds List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:25 PM
Subject: Rip off


>To all;
>The guy I am looking for is Tom Palasty, he's from Vassar, Michigan, he's
>not on the list, told me he got my name from a friend who IS on the list.
>He told me his buddies name was Dennis, who IS on the list. He has not
>cashed my check but it's been three months since I sent it to him for a
>left front grille for the 75 Cutlass Supreme. If anyone knows him I would
>appreciate if you would mention that to him please, either send me the
>grille or the check back. Have not heard a word since Nov., hate to drive
>that far to get arrested, but not many choices left. Patience is not a
>virtue I possess when money is involved. Any help would be appreciated,
>maybe he's snowed in, I hope so, for all our sake!
>Master Lou
>lbiggs@intertek.net
>PS Takes a lot, but.
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:45:48 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Heater Core

Peter;
If it's all coolant, it really shouldn't make noise, really sounds like
trapped air, but I am no expert here at all.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Heater Core
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 9:27 PM

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:48:54 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Peter;
15 bucks to stop payment, his *ss isn't worth that, I'll wait a tad.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Rip off
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 9:39 PM
> 
> Three months, and he has not cashed the check?  Put a stop order on that
bad
> boy, and get your grill elsewhere.  Maybe he's dead.  If so, he's not
going
> to send you your part ever.  The 911 call rules.  Peter.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:44:46 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rip off

Hi, Lou. This is Dennis, I saw your post and called Tom. I told him to get off
his ass and at least call you to get this straight`nd out. I am sorry about
this, he`s never given me any problems. Had I known this would happen, I would
have never told you about him. I was surprised to see my name on the list, and
to hear that happened. If you need his phone number again just email me
privately.   Dennis     w451973@aol.com  

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:47:50 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rip off

Hey, Collyn, This is Dennis,  this isnt the same guy, he isnt into 65`s. youve
got your numbers crossed.     w451973

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:50:38 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Rip off

I didn't catch the orginal post.  it was you that got ripped off, perhaps?
Well, if he hasn't cashed the check yet, maybe he never got it.  And he
thinks you were dicking him around and vice versa.  I just got a bill back
in the mail a few days ago that I had sent out about 2.68 months ago.  The
post office put it in  an envelope and sent it back to me.  They pay bulk
rate postage.

Rabia Majora

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Lou Biggs
Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 7:42 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Rip off


Ray;
You are a prince among men, no question there. The guy hasn't cashed my
check, so he's not a bad guy yet. God forbid he do dat! I just want a
grille, not part of him, but I will get something, one way or the other.
East St. Louis boy talking now. Darn shame we can't just bs and not have
this kind of thing.
Lou
- ----------
> From: Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Rip off

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:55:22 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Dennis;
Appreciate the help, as I said, he has not cashed the check, so i'm home
free so far, no grille, and no response makes one wonder, seemed like a
nice guy at the time.
Lou

- ----------
> From: W451973@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Rip off
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:44 PM
> 
> Hi, Lou. This is Dennis, I saw your post and called Tom. I told him to
get off
> his ass and at least call you to get this straight`nd out. I am sorry
about
> this, he`s never given me any problems. Had I known this would happen, I
would
> have never told you about him. I was surprised to see my name on the
list, and
> to hear that happened. If you need his phone number again just email me
> privately.   Dennis     w451973@aol.com  

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:12:24 -0800
From: "Quinn, James" <JBQUINN@ZoneAutomation.com>
Subject: RE: Heater Core

Peter,
Thanks for the input. This is the first time I've ever come across something
like this. I'm hoping to figure it out since the noise is fairly annoying.
If I figure something out, I'll let you know.

Jim 

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Peter Berusch [mailto:pber710840@email.msn.com]
		Sent:	Monday, February 15, 1999 7:27 PM
		To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
		Subject:	Re: Heater Core

		James, I have the same noise in my '70 442.  If I clamp off
either hose, the
		noise goes away.  Greg Rollin thinks that the control valve
may be at fault,
		or that an in line restrictor may have failed.  My core is
original, though.
		I have heard of after market cores producing this result.
It is not air in
		the core, but coolant rushing through it that creates the
sound.  To confirm
		this, see if you can modulate the sound by moving the heater
lever on the
		dash.  I am working toward a solution for this situation,
albeit in a
		desultory fashion.  Peter.
		-----Original Message-----
		From: Quinn, James <JBQUINN@ZoneAutomation.com>
		To: 'oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
		Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 1:15 PM
		Subject: Heater Core


		>Hi,
		>This is weird and I'm wondering if anybody has any idea
what's going on
		>here.
		>
		>I just installed a mew heater core in my 69 Vista Cruiser.
It went pretty
		>smoothly. The heater core was an after market and fit
pretty well once I
		>messed with the brackets that hod it down.
		>
		>Here's the problem. After hooking the hoses up, I refilled
the radiator and
		>started the car. So far, everything's cool. Then later I go
take it for a
		>ride I get this whirling sound emanating from the heater
box. I can feel it
		>vibrate more and more with increased RPM's. Does anybody
have a clue as to
		>what is making this noise? Could it be an air bubble that
is whirling
		around
		>inside the core? If so, how do I get rid of it? Any help
would be awesome
		>
		>Thanks,
		>Jim

		

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:14:41 EST
From: Stakin@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

Ok I wasnt going to chime in on this but I cant resist anymore.  After looking
at several new cars ,everything from an Aurora to a zx3 and everything
inbetween , we bought a 98 Grand Prix.  I love this car and it is everything
and more that an import is in my opinion.  American cars have come a long way.
I would have bought the Trans Am drive if it had seating for 5  :-) 

Joe Stackman
62 catalina
68 442
69 442
74 cutlass
77 GMC 4x
98 Grand Prix 

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:26:03 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: The Thickness of the Springtime Thread

Well Y'Olds,
It's the middle of February, and for those of us who live in areas with
season changes, the most blessed one is soon to arrive.  Soon it will be
time to get away from these damn computers and start turning some wrenches
again.  I am looking forward to it hard.  I'm just wondering if the season
change will mean more posts or fewer.  I haven't really had much to say on
the list in a while other than some meaningless comments (see surrounding
paragraph), and I haven't really been reading many of the posts.

Hopefully with the onset of the season of rebirth, there will be mass
amounts of Olds knowledge being slung around again and cool stories about
what cool things we all are doing to our cars when the weekend comes, etc.
I've got lots of plans for my car this season, of which I will probably get
at least 5-7% of actually accomplished.  I don't anticipate getting that
450% raise I put in for.  But as long as I can still do burnouts all Spring,
Summer, and Fall, I'll be a happy Oldsmobiler.  And that bastard groundhog
is lucky he didn't see that damn shadow.  I would have kicked his ass!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:48:53 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Dennis:
Replying to list because of all the noise I made over this, Tom just
called, and said" he was working seven days a week, and just didn't have
time to send the grille", I replied " no sweat, just keep in touch, hate to
be uninformed about my business", thanks for all your help. Hope it's fixed
now, will stay in touch. So far, so good. Thanks again for your help.
Lou
 
- ----------
> From: W451973@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Rip off
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:44 PM
> 
> Hi, Lou. This is Dennis, I saw your post and called Tom. I told him to
get off
> his ass and at least call you to get this straight`nd out. I am sorry
about
> this, he`s never given me any problems. Had I known this would happen, I
would
> have never told you about him. I was surprised to see my name on the
list, and
> to hear that happened. If you need his phone number again just email me
> privately.   Dennis     w451973@aol.com  

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:50:10 -0500
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: welding exhaust divider

My .02 here. If a reputable machine shop is willing to weld the center
divider without any real reservations then I think it irrelevant for
amateurs (like myself) to question whether it's possible. Machinists perform
what I would consider miraculous on a regular basis. They tend to know what
will warp, crack, or otherwise destroy cast iron, steel, aluminum,
molybdenum, magnesium, and probably uranium (just kidding). I never gave it
a second thought when my machinist agreed to weld the center divider on my
heads. He said it was a pain to do because of the heating and welding and
heating and welding. But nothing to fear.
- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Comid <Comid>
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: welding exhaust divider


>
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>From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
>To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Subject: Re: welding exhaust divider
>Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:32:17 -0600
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>Yeah; If they will do it, I would do it.
>Lou
>
>----------
>> From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: welding exhaust divider
>> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 9:20 AM
>>  How about heliarcing?  The shop that did my crank says they'll heliarc
>> the center divider.  Then they'll port the exhausts to get rid of the
>> slag buildup and mill the exhaust-gasket mating area...for $100-125.
>>
>>   Paul Brillhart
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:49:13 EST
From: Dan442Olds@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Cars

In a message dated 2/15/99 7:19:58 PM Central Standard Time, Stakin@aol.com
writes:

<< Ok I wasnt going to chime in on this but I cant resist anymore.  After
looking
 at several new cars ,everything from an Aurora to a zx3 and everything
 inbetween , we bought a 98 Grand Prix.  I love this car and it is everything
 and more that an import is in my opinion.  American cars have come a long
way.
 I would have bought the Trans Am drive if it had seating for 5  :-) 
  >>
If anyone out there is tall (I'm 6'5") and needs lots of legroom, drive a
Grand Prix.  It's got more than any Caddy, Lincoln, or Lexus.  If there are
any Aggies out there, be sure to move the seat all the way back.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:51:16 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Thickness of the Springtime Thread

In a message dated 2/15/99 8:27:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
costanzo@netcarrier.com writes:

<< It's the middle of February, and for those of us who live in areas with
 season changes, the most blessed one is soon to arrive.  >>
     Last Thursday-- Cleveland ohio, high temp 65 degrees= washing car in
jeans and t-shirt.         Last Saturday-- shoveling 3 inches snow away from
the side door.. = welcome to Cleveland and stupid lake effect snow!!     I
have been fixing up the house. When spring arrives, i'll be riding my Suzuki
GS 850 L motorcycle!!!.......

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:58:56 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: RE: Heater Core

I had the same noise problem with my 72 Supreme 455. Somebody at some
point had
removed the vacuum controlled valve which 
feeds coolant through the heater core.  It made
an annoying vibrating water sound.  I removed
the pipe fitting that they put in it's place and
installed a correct vacuum valve which is controlled by the heater
control switch- that
fixed the problem completely...

Good Luck
Kevin
Dr-Olds@webtv.net

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:06:40 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: welding exhaust divider

Got my "D" head dividers welded up and the area smoothed and milled all
for around 75 bucks.  They heated the heads first.  Looks good. 

Mike Rothe

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:15:31 -0500
From: Gasman24 <stulk@bellsouth.net>
Subject: 433?

Hi list,

I was surfing around the big 'ol www last night and ran across this guys
page, and he had a few pics of his car ('79 T/A) with a 403 in it.
Anyway in the info about his car it was stated that the 403 was bored to
433 cid. Can that be done to a 403? I e-mailed the guy for some info, he
said it was the same engine. Anyway I'm just wondering about that, seems
that the cylinder wall would be pretty thin for an over-bore like that!
Any thoughts?
Scott <stulk@bellsouth.net>
ICQ# 9201151

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:50:15 EST
From: WMACHINES@aol.com
Subject: Re: welding exhaust divider

In a message dated 99-02-14 19:15:39 EST, you write:

<< To  David,
  I think there is quite a risk in welding up the divider. Cast tends to
 crack when cooling after being welded, unless done in an oven.
 There is a water jacket under the exhaust port floor. You can cut the
 exhaust side of the head back .175" or so, which 'brings" the divider
 out flush with the rest of the exhaust flange. I've done this and it
 works
 well, although sometimes you need to slot the header/manifold holes
 and move it up, or otherwise modify the header.
 
 I think brazing is a bit safer if you choose not to cut the head back.
 You can buy large [apx 1/4"X1/4"] "rods" of cast iron
 [for gas welding cast iron], which can be fitted and brazed into place.
 
 Dave Brode
 64 Cutlass
 [with exhaust side cut .175" on "C" head, crossovers poured with
 aluminum] >>
Actually, brazing produces more heat than welding does.  The constant heat you
have on the surface in order to melt the brazing stick is high.  With welding
you use a cast iron welding rod and make one pass and let cool.  Before you
atempt this you must preheat the hole head.   Put it in a oven and heat it to
300 degrees.  Than weld it.

W MACHINES (Mark Prince)
72 442 W-30 with welded center dividers

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:08:09 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: RE: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)

Carl;

I once saw a Cutlass with a Bra on. Because of the slope of the grille area
of the front end, the Bra flapped constantly above 20 MPH. The guy tried
several things to tie the Bra to the sides of the grille opening with no
luck. When the guy finally pulled the Bra fully off it had ruined the paint
on the urethane bumper cover because of flapping and rubbing. Unless they
have come out with better attachments/contour since last summer, than......

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom's
Route-1, Box-615
Purling, NY 12470

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
gjcouse@cc-iroc-ss.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of carl g
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:11 PM
> To: olds list
> Subject: any one have photo of cutlass with bra (84 style)
>
>
>
> i have recently bought a 84 cuttlass and would like to see what it
> would look like with a bra on the front. i was just wondering if
> anyone could email me a photo of a cuttlass with a bra on it so i can
> see if i like how it looks.
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:19:42 -0500
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: speaking of ripoff

A while back I posted a story about how I got taken for a bunch of green
backs. I want to give you all another name to beware of. The names this guy
goes by are: Stefan Defimone, Steven Difimone, Steven DiAngelo, and Paul
DeLuca. BEWARE, BEWARE BEWARE. He has several E-mail addresses and and
snail-mail addresses. I just found out this information from the Postal
Inspector in Rhode Island. He's ripping people off everywhere. He especially
preys upon those looking for specialized merchandise (like Olds stuff).

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:32:03 -0500
From: "Steve Cea" <cutlass@citlink.net>
Subject: We Have an Olds Hater

He is talking about the picture of my 85 Olds 442 on 442.com lets all send
him a big Olds cheer his e-mail is JYanesh@aol.com . Pleas do me the favor
of sending this ford person an e-mail

Thanks
Steve C
1985 Olds442
- -----Original Message-----
From: JYanesh@aol.com <JYanesh@aol.com>
To: cutlass@citlink.net <cutlass@citlink.net>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 8:50 PM
Subject: Your Car


>Your Car still looks like it is worth 300 bucks !! Paint it black and tint
the
>windows !! Then it is worth 7000 bucks !Here is a real car !!!!
> For Sale
>
>1990 Mustang GT 5.0 Conv. 25th Anniv.
>
>4,352.5 Miles! Original
>Custom 5-Bar rims &Goodyear Racing Tires
>ProFlow Air System Intake
>K & N Filter Charged
>PST Suspension
>Front/Rear Sway Bars
>Stabilizer Bar
>Custom Made Door Panels & Trunk Panels
>Hurst Shifter
>Avital Alarm
>Leather Interior
>Headers
>Modified Gearing
>Lowered Springs
>Alpine CDA-7930 CD Player
>Alpine ERE-G180 EQ
>4 10" JBL Subwoofers
>All JBL Highs and Mids
>JBL Amps.
>All Factory Parts Owned Including Tires And Rims
>All Receipts
>And Pictures !!!!!
>E-Mail Me
>
>
>Asking $15,900
>
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:36:46 -0500
From: "Bill Reilly" <wjreilly@erols.com>
Subject: Re: It's ALIVE!!!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Biggs <lbiggs@intertek.net>
>Bill;
>Whats great is you take a bunch of metal parts, put them together and it
>runs, it's alive! There is a good feeling with that.
>Baron Von Frankenstein


Boy, do I finally know what you mean.  I've always putzed around with my car
and was satisfied when I was able to complete one of the small jobs I've
done.  This was my first major undertaking of any type.  It gets a little
scary at times.  I'm not the most knowledgeable, and I'm not the most
patient type of guy either.  Sometimes that can lead to problems.  But, I've
learned to take my time and also do lots of research and ask lots of
questions before I tackle the next step.  And it definately pays off in the
end.

Now I have to get the rest of it buttoned up, and maybe I will be able to
take it for a spin soon!!  I can't wait!

Bill Reilly
mailto: wjreilly@erols.com
Web Page: (Not yet)

My Garage:
'83 Cutlass Ciera
'84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
'85 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:31:10 -0500
From: Brian Kerr <bkerr@golden.net>
Subject: re: Nash Bridges

I think it would be difficult to match the rarity of existing '71 Hemi
Cudas with many Olds models. I read in Muscle Car Review that there are
only 3 known in existance. Next to the 68-72 Olds A body, I have to
confess that the early 70's Cudas and Challengers strike a spot close to
my heart.

Brian Kerr
69 Cutlass Conv

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:40:39 -0700
From: Ben <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: Brighter lights?

Who out there in Olds Land has some info on making your light brighter.
Since I had to put a diode in line of my voltage reulator there is a bit
less volatage (due to no stray voltage) going to the lights. Is there a
relay setup out there that will allow me to run more power to my lights
in sense making them brighter? Tinkering onwers want to know

Ben

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:40:42 -0700
From: Ben <olds442@primenet.com>
Subject: address?

Whom has the MAJORDOMO address? I need to UnS&B and reS&B under my new
email account... Please forward privately
olds442@primenet.com
olds442@digitaldune.net

Ben

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:42:21 EST
From: TheBlue67@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Thickness of the Springtime Thread

Im in the cleveland area too. Its crazy here. Winter is pissing me off, ive
got cabin fever. go to school all day then have to stay in a hot sweaty
wrestling room for 2 more hours a day. it sucks but the state tourney is
coming up. once that is over with the ole 67 will be one the way to my house
to be enjoyed daily. cant wait to get it and start doin those things that 16
year old kids do ;)

Brent
1967 Cutlass Convertible

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:44:20 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: clocked

List,
        My clock rebuild project is complete - 
it runs great and keeps perfect time - after
24 hours it is right on - Instrument Services
conversion kit - around $50.00

The General    :o{)}

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:49:32 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: clocked

What kind of car was the clock in?

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:50:02 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Rocket? Kettering.

>"The Cars of Oldsmobile" (Casteele) says that
>Oldsmobile made rockets during WW II.
>


heh heh - I betcha they made an awsome noise and went like hell.

drc

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:54:43 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: The Thickness of the Springtime Thread

>It's the middle of February, and for those of us who live in areas with
>season changes, the most blessed one is soon to arrive.  Soon it will be
>time to get away from these damn computers and start turning some wrenches
>again.  

Some of us already have.  Rebuilt and lowered the suspension
on an S-10 today.  Olds content:  Trial run to make sure all 
power tools are fully functioning for the upcoming suspension
rebuild/F spindle swap on the 68 Supreme.  Just waiting for
that tax check to come back so I can spend the money.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:01:16 EST
From: CChand4644@aol.com
Subject: # 6 heads on a 455

As I was tearing down my 455 (in a 70 cutlass) to repair oil leaks, I noticed
it had #6 heads,CFD/859.
It also has a competition cam with roller tappets. The only number I could
find was 4842 on the push rod guides. 
The main problem I have with the car is timing at idle(mild backfiring) and
some pre spark ignition without octane boost.  
Is this small block head on a BB a good combination? 
I think it would have too much compression with the 64cc heads.
Do I need to install BB heads, or will this combination work?
I did notice that the intake manifold ports were much larger than the small
block head ports.  This did not appear efficient.
Overall the engine runs well.
Chris.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:17:16 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of ripoff

that name sounded familiar, so I checked on my "book of contacts"

I got a call from a guy named Stefan DeSimone, about an H/O air cleaner
he had.  Sounded weird when he started talking about "plastic" parts on
the shroud.  Needless to say, I didn't send him any money.

he listed a number of 401-455-9425 and his 'parent's" address of
117 Boston Post Rd No. 283
Waterford, CT 06385

Hope they nail him

Mike Rothe

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:25:24 -0500
From: "Mike Rothe." <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of ripoff

> that name sounded familiar, so I checked on my "book of contacts"
> 
> I got a call from a guy named Stefan DeSimone, about an H/O air cleaner
> he had.  Sounded weird when he started talking about "plastic" parts on
> the shroud.  Needless to say, I didn't send him any money.

Oh yeah, here's what REALLY turned me off.  he squirmed big time when I
asked him to send pictures of it.  I was suspicious then.  I told him
I'd call back, and when I did, I got a beeper number.  what a slime.  I
guess he figured I wasn't THAT desparate, cuz he never called back.

Ended up buying one from Tony Molinaro (list member).  He's a real great
guy.  He sent me pictures and everything.  Very good to talk to also.  

Mike Rothe

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:15:55 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: # 6 heads on a 455

Not a good combo at all, this car must have run like sh_t! Go find a pair of
big block heads and everything should be fine then . Hot Rod Harry

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