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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, February 13 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1772



Re: Parts interchangability 68 C/S S
Re: Parts interchangability 68 C/S S
Re: Chevrolet 350
Re: street 350 recipe..
Re: 1032 Oldsmobile - Need Advice
Re: Chris sommerville
Pictures on List
455 roller rocker arms
H or X crossover pipe?
MSD Ignition?
Re: 455 roller rocker arms
Re: H or X crossover pipe?
Re: Drag Racing expertise needed
Re: Olds Club of Fla swap meet at Old Town
Re: 455 roller rocker arms
Re: Muscle Car Fan (was:Chevrolet 350)
Re: 1032 Oldsmobile - Need Advice
Rust Free 72 Conv. Shell Needed
Re: 455 roller rocker arms
Re: Need help w/ ignition problem.
Re: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?
Re: 455 roller rocker arms
Atlantic City new meeting place!!
Re: Chevrolet 350
Re: why are we talking about Chevys?
Need Radio/Please Help
Re: why are we talking about Chevys?
Re: cast iron welding....
Re: why are we talking about Chevys?
what your car says about you
Re: street 350 recipe..
Re: ICQ - - - - Who has it? I do too
307's in 442's
Re: Bad Crank Reply.
Re: ICQ - - - - Who has it? I do too
post to list;  72 Olds
Collector Car financing
Re: ICQ - - - - Who has it? I do too
1970 Cutlass F/S
Re: need distributor info
Re: why are we talking about Chevys?
Re: what your car says about you
Ink
Re: 1970 Cutlass F/S ( 2nd post)
badges
Re: Collector Car financing
Re: 455 roller rocker arms
Re: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?
Re: 1932 Olds Prices (Garys questions)
Re: 1970 Cutlass F/S ( 2nd post)
Mondello  was Re: 455 roller rocker arms
Re: why are we talking about Chevys?
RE: why are we talking about Chevys?
Re: why are we talking about Chevys?

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:41:28 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts interchangability 68 C/S S

Almost everything is interchangeable, except for the hood, and crome around
some places. All body pannels are, and steerwheels are, the"S" had the same
hood and interiror pattern as the 442, as the Supreme had its own. Hope this
helps you out.
Kelly Erickson
1966 Cutlass Holiday Coupe
1968 Cutlass Supreme (dads)
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/Olds442z/

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:49:31 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Parts interchangability 68 C/S S

>Was there a C/S in 68? (I cant find a C/S in my 68 Olds Shop manual and
>the FAQ are kinda thin on this too.)
>
>If there was a C/S in 68, does it have the same body style then the
>Cutlass S?? Does it have the same headlights, taillights, steering wheel
>etc.? What (body) parts don't interchange?


Yes there was, that's what mine is.  All the sheet metal interchanges and
the C/S and S models have the same roofline.  The differences are in the
trim and the hood.  The S and 442 have the same hoods while the C/S
has cut out vents at the rear edge of the hood and no fake chrome vents.
On the rest, the tail lights are different, the C/S has one large rectagular
chrome piece while the S/442 have two small ones.  The other major
difference is the side trim, as the S/442's have the trim run along the top
of the fender, the C/S runs about 6" from the bottom of the car, from
bumper to bumper.  Also, the C/S doesn't have the stainless wheelwell
trim, but the 1" wide trim that runs from bumper to bumper follows the
body line an inch or so in from the wheelwell.  Basically having a C/S
sucks because all the parts I need are not only 68-only items, but
Supreme only items, while guys with a S/442 get all the repro parts!
Ain't life a female dog sometimes?


BTW George, isn't your car a burgundy/maroon color?  Gonna keep
that color?  It looks like the same as my C/S.
Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:01:46 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

Jason;
Don't want to continue this thread, is it possible that those were mid
years options?? Don't really know, I bought mine off the floor 1st or 2nd
week of new car showing. Beats me.
Lou
- ----------
> From: jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 7:58 PM
> 
> 
> No 427's but they had 396's and 350's!

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:00:28 -0500 (EST)
From: hurst455@webtv.net (Corey Putnam)
Subject: Re: street 350 recipe..

The Edelbrock proformer cam and intake would probabily be the easiest
way to meet your needs.

Corey Putnam 75 455 Hurst/Olds                 H/OCA # 0915A.OCA #
031264                                               

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:08:16 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: 1032 Oldsmobile - Need Advice

That is nice!
Lou

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> From: Beach324@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: 1032 Oldsmobile - Need Advice
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 8:57 PM
> 
> Brian:  Here's a picture of the '32 Olds.  I think it is a beautiful car
> considering it's all original and in such great shape.
> 
> Larry
> 

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:07:17 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Chris sommerville

Drew;
He went to England, Peter and I stayed home, (for a while), southeast Asia
is very nice in the summer months!
Lou

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> From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Chris sommerville
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 8:50 PM
 
> Unless you're the Commander in Chief.  

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:04:21 EST
From: Beach324@aol.com
Subject: Pictures on List

Denney:  And the Rest of the List Members

Yes.  My posting of the .jpg on the list was an accident as my immediate
follow-up posting of apology acknowledges.   I subscribe to other lists which
operated "reply" switch completely opposite of the Olds list.   When I "reply"
to other mail I've received from other lists the reply goes directly to the
person I'm responding to NOT TO THE WHOLE LIST.  If I want to reply to the
whole list I have to purposefully route the email that way.  To me that seems
the better way of setting up a list to avoid just what I did.  The Olds list
operates this reply button differently it seems.  To punish myself for my
heinous error I have "UNSUBSCRIBED" from the Olds list.  I'll not trouble the
group again with the 1932 Olds.

Larry

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:12:08 -0500 (EST)
From: GMcNeil@webtv.net (Gregory McNeil)
Subject: 455 roller rocker arms

OLDSHEADS;
I've heard a bit of bad press about stock 455 rocker arms and bridges,so
i'm considering installing roller rockers.I'd like to do this with as
little machining as possible.(preferably none,don't want to disassemble
the top end.)I've heard Harland Sharp makes a kit that dosen't require
any.

    Any one care to comment?    

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:18:48 -0500 (EST)
From: hurst455@webtv.net (Corey Putnam)
Subject: H or X crossover pipe?

Has anyone out there ran an X crossover pipe? I have heard (and read)
that they do free up more power than the H type but  it makes your
exhaust sound like crap.If this is true,was it just the mufflers that
were being used,or does it affect all equally?  

Corey Putnam 75 455 Hurst/Olds                 H/OCA # 0915A.OCA #
031264                                               

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:28:34 -0600
From: Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com>
Subject: MSD Ignition?

Has anyone had any performance comparisons from a HEI to a Multiple Spark
Discharge ignitions?

Does the MSD (not the company MSD, just the technology!) ignitions actually
help?  Do they reduce emissions?  Do they improve fuel economy?  Do they may
more HP?

Thanks!
Thomas Martin
80 Turbo Trans AM
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:08:14 -0500
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: 455 roller rocker arms

>I've heard a bit of bad press about stock 455 rocker arms and bridges,so
>i'm considering installing roller rockers.I'd like to do this with as
>little machining as possible.(preferably none,don't want to disassemble
>the top end.)I've heard Harland Sharp makes a kit that dosen't require
>any.

>   Any one care to comment?

You heard wrong.  Harland Sharp requires rocker stud holes be drilled out
and tapped.
Check out the Comp Cams Magnum roller tipped rocker arm ass.(part #1-442-16)
I think its like $250 or there abouts from Summit Racing (1-800-230-3030)
and comes with everything u need.   Roller tip rockers, studs, hardened
pushrods, guild plates.  Keep in mind these are not full roller as the pivot
point is still a ball, but the tips are roller and it provides you with the
ability to adjust your valve train and eliminates the stock "bridge".  I ran
a set of these all last year with no problems.  A simple bolt on.  Just yank
the valve covers and have at it.  Prob take an hour or two to do the
install.

Ken
olds442@en.com

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:32:05 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: H or X crossover pipe?

The exhaust note get quieter.(do to the improved balance of exhaust gases) Not
crapier. <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">Hot Rod Harrys
1973 Cutlass</A> 

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:46:08 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Drag Racing expertise needed

Larry;
This was a rod letting go, let the piston hit the head, alum you might
know, and then broke in two, welded itself to the crank and proceeded to
get the block, cam, Milodan oil pan and pick up, and ended up trashing the
headers on one side. Was power timing the ign @ 3:00am before we left town,
the dist. had weights but only enough tension to let you start the engine
then it was full advance, crew guy hit the kill switch but kept the
throttle open when we were done, engine tried to run on, (14.7 comp ratio),
backfired, and ran backwards for a rev or two. I was worried but it was too
late to put in another engine. Apparently the rod was cracked and broke at
about 6500. Couldn't tell unless it was Magnafluxed. Hell, I was going to
set another Natl record. It was a super engine, all the factory guys were
supposed to be there, I was going to put on a big show, I did, oiled the
left lane for an 1/8 mile. Got on the cover on Natl Dragster, ink is good,
even BAD ink. To soon old, too late smart.
Lou   

- ----------
> From: Larry Pegg <nurelic@primenet.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Drag Racing expertise needed
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 9:18 PM
> 
> I have heard that cracking the block is a fairly common thing when
hooking
> up race car type power.  How about a front motor plate anyone ever use
one?

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:48:30 -0500
From: "Bill Gochenour" <bill@neisys.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Club of Fla swap meet at Old Town

About this Old town thing...when exactly is it scheduled for? Is anyone from
the list planning to attend?

Thanks!

Bill "3STICKS"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rothe. <hurstolds@xtalwind.net>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: Olds Club of Fla swap meet at Old Town


>> Does anyone have directions to the swap meet and car show this weekend in
Old
>> Town?
>
>If you're heading down the road of life in Orlando, (this would be
>Interstate 4) you want to go on the south side of the big O, and get off
>at the exit for Route 50 EAST.  If you go west, you go to Disneyworld.
>Don't go that way. (don't remember the exit number, I always just take
>50 East all the way in)  Go about two stop lights down after getting off
>the highway and look to the right.  Amusement park looking place with a
>ferris wheel out front.  Can't miss it.  LOTS o' FUN!  Parking could
>suck, so get there early!
>
>Mike Rothe
>

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:45:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Re: 455 roller rocker arms

Greg. and all on list.  I would be curious about
the roller rocker with no- mods thing.  If anybody knows, please pass it
on!

Kevin
Dr-Olds@webtv.net

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:50:55 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: Muscle Car Fan (was:Chevrolet 350)

The only thing that might tempt me away from my 442 is Don Johnson's 71 Hemi
Cuda convertible.  Check it out on Nash Bridges (Friday nights, 10:00, CBS).
This car gets more air time than any other car on TV and it deserves it!
Gorgeous, chrome yellow on white!!!!  And I think there were only about 20 of
'em built. Anyone else hear those numbers?  I saw one advertised recently for
$45K.
Scott
71 442 Conv

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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:02:01 -0500
From: Brian Shankle <cshankle@home.com>
Subject: Re: 1032 Oldsmobile - Need Advice

That is a really beautiful car.  If I had the money to spend on
something like that I would buy it, and I am really not into those kinds
of cars.  THis one would definitely be an exception.
Brian.

Beach324@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Brian:  Here's a picture of the '32 Olds.  I think it is a beautiful car
> considering it's all original and in such great shape.
> 
> Larry
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:04:59 -0500 (EST)
From: mputz@interhop.net (Mike Putz)
Subject: Rust Free 72 Conv. Shell Needed

Does anyone know where I could get a Rust Free 72 Supreme convertible shell?

I have a lot of work to do on mine and it may be easier to replace it.

Thanks if you can help.

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:08:53 -0500
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: Re: 455 roller rocker arms

List,

        I purchased a set of bolt-on no
mods required roller rockers from Mondello.
Easy set up and adjustment....

My two cents
The General     :o{)}

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:14:50 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Need help w/ ignition problem.

Agree with Peter, sounds that way.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Peter Berusch <pber710840@email.msn.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Need help w/ ignition problem.
> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 8:56 AM
> 
> If your run or start problem is sensitive to the position of the key,
could
> it be you have a faulty ignition switch?  Peter.

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:20:07 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?

There is a fill plug in the pump.  Be careful not to overfill, lest you
induce a leak, or a faster leak, since if you had no leak your system would
not be low.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
To: Olds list <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:04 AM
Subject: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?


>I misplaced my fischer body manual and I can't remember where the fluid is
>added for the conv. top.  I took out the rear seats and can get to the
pump,
>but can't find the resevour (sic).  I can clearly see air bubbles in the
>lines when putting the top down.
>
>-greg z
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:20:14 EST
From: Oldsfire@aol.com
Subject: Re: 455 roller rocker arms

How about some adjustable rockers like SB chevys??  Crane, Daytona turbo cams
and possibly Competition cams makes them!!  Check with some of your parts
stores to see!!

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:31:53 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Atlantic City new meeting place!!

I was there today and the Auction block area is too crowded. So lets all meet
around 11:00 at the Thorton  Restoration Area. You cant miss it. Its in the
car area and he has 4 Unbelievable restored Oldsmobile 442s there. A 67 conv.
442....66 L69 442.....70 W30.....68 Hurst Olds ....they always sell for around
35 to 50 grand!!!

 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html">Hot Rod Harrys 1973
Cutlass</A>

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:38:27 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350

All:
This thread should die, BUT, I was buddies with Dick Harrell, i.e. ( MR.
CHEVROLET), Nicky Chev from Chitown, (backwards "N"),  he had a race shop
in town, about 5 minutes from my place, only 427s in his camaros he put in
himself, after 1969 it was a different story, Yenko, Bill Allen Chev from
Ks City, and many more. Does anyone remember his 66 chevy II, wheelstanding
show car, well it wasn't meant to wheelstand, I helped build it, we screwed
up and moved the rear wheels TOO far up, took it out on the Great River
Road and scared the living hell out all the other drivers that nite, it was
impossible to drive so he made a trick car from it, but it was a Chevy and
more people drive them then anything else. He made money with it.
Lou
PS Sorry Greg but this is interesting.
PPS Never heard of a copo before 1969 but I am often wrong too.
 
- ----------
> From: jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Chevrolet 350
> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 7:20 AM
> 
> This violates the gm engine rule.  I have NEVER heard this before.  I 
> would have to have a better source that peterson before I believe that.  
> No peeing yet!!!!

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:39:52 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?

Igor;
Your fault.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?
> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 7:57 AM
> 
> It's all Igor's fault
> 

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:41:34 -0500
From: Tim Lauro <tlauro@infinet.com>
Subject: Need Radio/Please Help

Can anyone help me find a factory AM/FM Stereo for a 1971 or 1972
Cutlass Supreme??

Please reply privately to me at tlauro@infinet.com.  I'm looking to
purchase one for this specific set of model years.  Any potential sales
of one or links/pointers to where I can track one down would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

tim lauro
Columbus, OH

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:40:49 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?

yeah, damn you Igor ;)
Lets talk about hondas, i need to make fun of somthing

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:01:04 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: cast iron welding....

Ed;
You can sew (weld) cast iron cold, but it warps, thats the reason for the
heat treatment, I've seen it done with no problems, but it's 50/50 chance
it might, we have done it with race car engine blocks but they were align
bored, and trued up after the welding.
Lou 

- ----------
> From: Ed Binnix <comid@jellico.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: cast iron welding....
> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 9:59 AM
> 
> The way I understand it you have to heat the cast iron up to about 900
> degrees. At least that's what the machine chop told me when they welded
> mine. That's all I know about it.
 

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:54:37 EST
From: CARMAN442@aol.com
Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?

  If we start to talk about Mopars I think i'll have to unsubscribe! Maybe
next we can talk about the President's acquittal.

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:08:56 -0800
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: what your car says about you

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Some of these are very true
     
   

  What Does Your Car Say About You?
 
  Buick Park Avenue: I am older than 34 of the 50 states
 
  Cadillac Deville: I am a very good Mary Kay Salesperson
 
  Chevrolet Camaro: I enjoy beating up people
 
  Chevrolet Cavalier coupe: I start 11th grade in the fall
 
  Chevrolet Chevette: I like seeing people's reactions when I tell them I
have a 'vette.

 Chevrolet Corvette: I am having a mid-life crisis

 Chevrolet El Camino: I am leading a militia to overthrow the government

 Datsun/Nissan 280Z: I have a kilo of cocaine in my wheelwell

 Dodge Aries: I teach third grade special education and I voted for George
Bush

 Dodge Durango: I will not be caught dead in a Ford Explorer

 Dodge Neon: I cannot stand the Macarena

 Ford Crown Victoria: I enjoy having people slow to 55 mph and change lanes
when I pull up behind them

 Ford Explorer: I will not be caught dead in a minivan

 Ford Mustang 5.0: I slow down to 85 in school zones

 Ford Mustang 2.3: I avoid Yugos and VW microbuses at the stoplights

 Ford Tempo: I teach fourth grade special education and I voted for Bil
Clinton

 Honda Civic: I just graduated and have no credit at all

 Honda Accord: I lack originality and am basically a lemming

 Hyundai Accent: I delivered pizza for years in order to get this car

 Infiniti Q45: I am a physician with 17 malpractice suits pending

 Jaguar XJS V-12: I am so rich I will pay $60,000.00 for a car that is in
the shop 280 days of the year

 Lexus LS400: I am the lawyer suing the owner of the Infiniti Q45

 Lincoln Navigator: I don't bother comparing gas prices

 Lincoln Town Car: I live for bingo and covered dish suppers

 Mercury Grand Marquis: I live for bridge and covered dish suppers

 Mercedes 600SL: I will beat you up if you ask me for an autograph

 Mercedes 600SEL: I have a daughter named Buffy and a son named Biff

 Mazda Miata: I do not fear being decapitated by an eighteen-wheeler

 MGB: I am dating a mechanic

 Nissan Altima: I don't know what it means, either

 Nissan 300ZX: I have yet to complete my divorce proceedings

 Oldsmobile Cutlass: I just stole this car and I'm going to make a
 fortune off the parts

 Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser: I get carsick driving minivans

 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Diesel: I am on the EPA's Ten Most Wanted List

 Plymouth Neon: I enjoy the Macarena

 Pontiac Trans Am: I have a switchblade in my sock

 Porsche 928: I am dating big-haired women who would otherwise be
 inaccessable to me

 Range Rover: I do not care about J.D. Powers or his surveys

 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow: I think Maggie Thatcher is a touch too Whig for
me

 Saturn SL1: I hope someday to make it to a gathering in Spring Hill

 Saturn SL2: I made it to a gathering in Spring Hill

 Volkswagen Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns

 Volkswagen Jetta: I enjoy putting out engine fires

 Volkswagen Microbus: I am tripping right now

 Volkswagen New Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns

 Volvo 740 Wagon: I am afraid of my wife



					Paul & Noelle
					'66 Cutlass ( still for sale )


  

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pay $60,000.00 for a car that is in the shop 280 days of the =
year<br><br> Lexus LS400: I am the lawyer suing the owner of the =
Infiniti Q45<br><br> Lincoln Navigator: I don't bother comparing gas =
prices<br><br> Lincoln Town Car: I live for bingo and covered dish =
suppers<br><br> Mercury Grand Marquis: I live for bridge and covered =
dish suppers<br><br> Mercedes 600SL: I will beat you up if you ask me =
for an autograph<br><br> Mercedes 600SEL: I have a daughter named Buffy =
and a son named Biff<br><br> Mazda Miata: I do not fear being =
decapitated by an eighteen-wheeler<br><br> MGB: I am dating a =
mechanic<br><br> Nissan Altima: I don't know what it means, =
either<br><br> Nissan 300ZX: I have yet to complete my divorce =
proceedings<br><br> <b>Oldsmobile Cutlass: I just stole this car and I'm =
going to make a<br> fortune off the parts<br></b><br> <b>Oldsmobile =
Cutlass Cruiser: I get carsick driving minivans<br><br> Oldsmobile Delta =
88 Diesel: I am on the EPA's Ten Most Wanted List</b><br><br> Plymouth =
Neon: I enjoy the Macarena<br><br> Pontiac Trans Am: I have a =
switchblade in my sock<br><br> Porsche 928: I am dating big-haired women =
who would otherwise be<br> inaccessable to me<br><br> Range Rover: I do =
not care about J.D. Powers or his surveys<br><br> Rolls Royce Silver =
Shadow: I think Maggie Thatcher is a touch too Whig for me<br><br> =
Saturn SL1: I hope someday to make it to a gathering in Spring =
Hill<br><br> Saturn SL2: I made it to a gathering in Spring Hill<br><br> =
Volkswagen Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns<br><br> =
Volkswagen Jetta: I enjoy putting out engine fires<br><br> Volkswagen =
Microbus: I am tripping right now<br><br> Volkswagen New Beetle: I still =
watch Partridge Family reruns<br><br> Volvo 740 Wagon: I am afraid of my =
wife<br><br><br><br>&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;Paul &amp; =
Noelle<br>&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;&#009;'66 Cutlass ( still for sale =
)<br><br><br> &nbsp;<br><br></p>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:13:48 -0800
From: "Peter Berusch" <pber710840@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: street 350 recipe..

John, If you would like a nice, tractable driver, then duals for sure, and a
low end torque cam.  A hydraulic lifter cam of the towing variety, or one
slightlymore aggressive, depending upon your exhaust note desires.  If tou
don't plan to live at the upper end of the rev range, breathingshould be
very adequate.  You have a decent rear axle ratio now, so you can leave that
alone.  My '71 Cutlasswas a two barrel car.  I went to duals, a modest cam
and a four barrel.  Good power, good noises, easy driver.  I had a 2.50
series gear in the back.  The 3.08 was just what was needed to wake the old
car up.  Peter.
- -----Original Message-----
From: John Carri <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 2:48 PM
Subject: street 350 recipe..



   In an earlier posting I asked the list for suggestions
on hopping up the stock 350 in my '72 Supreme, but there
was only one lone response. (Same thing happened with my
seat-belt upgrade question, seems like at times I have
different interests from my fellow listees!)
interested in strong acceleration
up past 90 mph or so (the point at which the friendly LAPD
starts to reenact the Rodney King tapes if they catch you).
What I'm hoping for is at least 250 net horsepower without
killing significant amounts of my low rpm torque, which
seems like a reasonable goal. My car has a 3.07 rear and
a TH350, 26.7" tall tires, and the stock 350/Quadrajet
with single exhaust.

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:21:00 EST
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: ICQ - - - - Who has it? I do too

My ICQ # is 4686557

Bernie   NJ

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:35:36 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: 307's in 442's

I want to compile some data for a web page on 307's and I need to put to bed
the question of whether 85 and 86 442's were equipped with roller motors (7A
heads) or standard motors (5A heads).

Any one who might have one of these babies, couldja kindly lemme know what's
under the hood?

Thanks.
drc

david.cullen@snet.net

p.s. could someone pass this to the G-Body list fo' me? Moocho Grassyass.

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:12:32 -0600
From: "Charles A. Dempsey" <cdemps@lsumc.edu>
Subject: Re: Bad Crank Reply.

> Darn straight there is, call the Better Business Bureau.  Create a 
> record on this guy/shop
- --snip-----
>  BUT you will be helping other people out there.

I wish I thought so. I have taken the (not inconsiderable) time and
effort on several occasions to report crooked dealers and shops to the
BBB. The fact is, if the shop puts up a good front you don't think to
check their rating before you're in too deep, and nobody else does
either. The BBB will arbitrate a settlement, but it's "he said she
said", and no skin off their nose if you don't agree.

In the long run they kept my money and I wasted my time. My sole comfort
is that *all* of the shops I've had disagreements with are now out of
business. I'd like to say that it was due to the number of bad reports
they recieved through the BBB, but I have good reason to believe that it
was simple word of mouth that did them in. I helped there too.

Pay with a credit card if you can. It gives you a lot more options. Visa
in particular is very responsive to complaints.

Charles

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:56:24 -0800
From: "noelle r murphy" <MURPH2@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: ICQ - - - - Who has it? I do too

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What the he double hockey sticks is an ICQ?

						Paul & Noelle
						'66 Cutlass ( still for sale )
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:49:02 EST
From: DIVGENENT@aol.com
Subject: post to list;  72 Olds

I am rebuilding a 1972 Olds 350 Rocket...
Any tips on where to get an updated rear main seal
to get away from the rope type seal 
supplied with motor kits??

Reply to DIVGENENT@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:59:17 -0600
From: "Tom Williams" <tjwilli@megavision.com>
Subject: Collector Car financing

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Hi List,
    I am curious as to some feedback from some of the members on the =
list who have used local bank or SL financing for your collector car. I =
have never used any local bank financing on an old collector car, mainly =
because I have never owned any so called expensive ones.

I am curious as to what the banks or SL's feelings generally are towards =
the older cars. I would think that some loan officers would want to fall =
out of the chair when you say that you are needing $6000-$12000.00 for =
an older car.
I am asking for some feedback because we just spent a load of money =
remodeling our house and sure enough I find a very nice 72CS Convertible =
for sale here locally about 1 month after we finished the house. The car =
is a standard CS convertible but has power steering, power brakes, air , =
tilt wheel, cruise, power windows, locks, power seat, AM/FM and cut out =
bumper. The car is excellent condition and everything works. I would not =
get to excited if they were asking $12000.00-$15,000.00 but they need to =
sell the car and are asking $5900.00 so I am getting the itch to get the =
car bought.

Thanks in advance for any info on this subject.

Tom

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want to=20
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for an=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am asking for some feedback because we just spent =
a load of=20
money remodeling our house and sure enough I find a very nice 72CS =
Convertible=20
for sale here locally about 1 month after we finished the house. The car =
is a=20
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wheel,=20
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car is=20
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they=20
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asking=20
$5900.00 so I am getting the itch to get the car bought.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks in advance for any info on this =
subject.</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:08:57 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: ICQ - - - - Who has it? I do too

Its like AOL instant messanger

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:47:05 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: 1970 Cutlass F/S

         I have received this in my e-mail .This is a co-worker of my wife. I
hope to see this car this week end. I also plan to take some pictures of the
car and post to my ever changing web site.  If there is anyone out there
interessted in this car in this price range, e-mail privately and I can
connect you to the seller. ................SCOTT


    <<1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass...immaculate condition...about  30,000 miles
(currently in storage)...absolutely no rust....350 rocket....received from
my 83 year old aunt...has been garage kept.....original parts...looks like it
just came out of the showroom...$6500....>>

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:43:11 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: need distributor info

EDZX6@aol.com wrote:

> I just got my jeg's catalog in the mail and noticed that they have for sale
> (at a great price) remanufactured Mallory distributors. Is anyone on the list
> using one of those Unilite dist. If so, how are they? Do you need to mount 
the
> coil separately?

I'm very sorry to respond so late to this question.  Anyway, I've known three
people who have them and all swear by them.  One guy had a 2-door Galaxie 500 
(I
think a '67) and he loves his.  I also work currently with a guy who has a '69
Firebird who thinks it's "fantastic" and another who has an absolutely 
screamin'
and heavily modified '76 Corvette who also stands by his Unilite.

Over on the Classical Pontiac BBS there is a bit of discussion about them and 
some
ideas there are that most of the problems seem to be voltage related. 
According to
the Mr. Gasket FAQ (Mr.Gasket now owns Mallory) the Unilite requires 7-9 volts,
measured at the coil positive terminal, when wired directly to the coil. This 
is
the same as points.  So, my guess is if it is installed with a straight 12V 
input
and the  ballast resistor or resistance wire is omitted, it may burn the unit
out.  Yes, it uses a separately mounted coil.  When done correctly, it seems to
work great.

The only reason I can think they were engineered to use the reduced voltage is
that the Unilite distributor and the Unilite conversion for points came out as 
an
aftermarket electronic ignition system to replace breaker point systems.  So, 
it
just made wiring simpler to use the existing wiring.  Just a guess on my part.

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:05:58 -0700
From: "Larry Pegg" <nurelic@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?

Amen!
LP
- --

>
>why has a thread about Chevy engines become the longest running thread
>

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:15:03 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: what your car says about you

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hey, i only put out the engine in my jetta once!!!!
Erik
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: noelle r murphy=20
  To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 8:08 PM
  Subject: what your car says about you


  =20
  Some of these are very true
     =20
   =20

   What Does Your Car Say About You?

   Buick Park Avenue: I am older than 34 of the 50 states

   Cadillac Deville: I am a very good Mary Kay Salesperson

   Chevrolet Camaro: I enjoy beating up people

   Chevrolet Cavalier coupe: I start 11th grade in the fall

   Chevrolet Chevette: I like seeing people's reactions when I tell them =
I have a 'vette.

  Chevrolet Corvette: I am having a mid-life crisis

  Chevrolet El Camino: I am leading a militia to overthrow the =
government

  Datsun/Nissan 280Z: I have a kilo of cocaine in my wheelwell

  Dodge Aries: I teach third grade special education and I voted for =
George Bush

  Dodge Durango: I will not be caught dead in a Ford Explorer

  Dodge Neon: I cannot stand the Macarena

  Ford Crown Victoria: I enjoy having people slow to 55 mph and change =
lanes when I pull up behind them

  Ford Explorer: I will not be caught dead in a minivan

  Ford Mustang 5.0: I slow down to 85 in school zones

  Ford Mustang 2.3: I avoid Yugos and VW microbuses at the stoplights

  Ford Tempo: I teach fourth grade special education and I voted for Bil =
Clinton

  Honda Civic: I just graduated and have no credit at all

  Honda Accord: I lack originality and am basically a lemming

  Hyundai Accent: I delivered pizza for years in order to get this car

  Infiniti Q45: I am a physician with 17 malpractice suits pending

  Jaguar XJS V-12: I am so rich I will pay $60,000.00 for a car that is =
in the shop 280 days of the year

  Lexus LS400: I am the lawyer suing the owner of the Infiniti Q45

  Lincoln Navigator: I don't bother comparing gas prices

  Lincoln Town Car: I live for bingo and covered dish suppers

  Mercury Grand Marquis: I live for bridge and covered dish suppers

  Mercedes 600SL: I will beat you up if you ask me for an autograph

  Mercedes 600SEL: I have a daughter named Buffy and a son named Biff

  Mazda Miata: I do not fear being decapitated by an eighteen-wheeler

  MGB: I am dating a mechanic

  Nissan Altima: I don't know what it means, either

  Nissan 300ZX: I have yet to complete my divorce proceedings

  Oldsmobile Cutlass: I just stole this car and I'm going to make a
  fortune off the parts

  Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser: I get carsick driving minivans

  Oldsmobile Delta 88 Diesel: I am on the EPA's Ten Most Wanted List

  Plymouth Neon: I enjoy the Macarena

  Pontiac Trans Am: I have a switchblade in my sock

  Porsche 928: I am dating big-haired women who would otherwise be
  inaccessable to me

  Range Rover: I do not care about J.D. Powers or his surveys

  Rolls Royce Silver Shadow: I think Maggie Thatcher is a touch too Whig =
for me

  Saturn SL1: I hope someday to make it to a gathering in Spring Hill

  Saturn SL2: I made it to a gathering in Spring Hill

  Volkswagen Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns

  Volkswagen Jetta: I enjoy putting out engine fires

  Volkswagen Microbus: I am tripping right now

  Volkswagen New Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns

  Volvo 740 Wagon: I am afraid of my wife



  Paul & Noelle
  '66 Cutlass ( still for sale )


  =20




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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:MURPH2@prodigy.net" title=3DMURPH2@prodigy.net>noelle r =
murphy</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca"=20
  title=3Doldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 12, 1999 8:08 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> what your car says about you</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;<BR>Some of these =
are very=20
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Does Your=20
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of the=20
  50 states<BR><BR>&nbsp;Cadillac Deville: I am a very good Mary Kay=20
  Salesperson<BR><BR>&nbsp;Chevrolet Camaro: I enjoy beating up=20
  people<BR><BR>&nbsp;Chevrolet Cavalier coupe: I start 11th grade in =
the=20
  fall<BR><BR>&nbsp;Chevrolet Chevette: I like seeing people's reactions =
when I=20
  tell them I have a 'vette.<BR><BR>Chevrolet Corvette: I am having a =
mid-life=20
  crisis<BR><BR>Chevrolet El Camino: I am leading a militia to overthrow =
the=20
  government<BR><BR>Datsun/Nissan 280Z: I have a kilo of cocaine in my=20
  wheelwell<BR><BR>Dodge Aries: I teach third grade special education =
and I=20
  voted for George Bush<BR><BR>Dodge Durango: I will not be caught dead =
in a=20
  Ford Explorer<BR><BR>Dodge Neon: I cannot stand the =
Macarena<BR><BR>Ford Crown=20
  Victoria: I enjoy having people slow to 55 mph and change lanes when I =
pull up=20
  behind them<BR><BR>Ford Explorer: I will not be caught dead in a=20
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zones<BR><BR>Ford=20
  Mustang 2.3: I avoid Yugos and VW microbuses at the =
stoplights<BR><BR>Ford=20
  Tempo: I teach fourth grade special education and I voted for Bil=20
  Clinton<BR><BR>Honda Civic: I just graduated and have no credit at=20
  all<BR><BR>Honda Accord: I lack originality and am basically a=20
  lemming<BR><BR>Hyundai Accent: I delivered pizza for years in order to =
get=20
  this car<BR><BR>Infiniti Q45: I am a physician with 17 malpractice =
suits=20
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a car=20
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lawyer=20
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son=20
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complete=20
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car and=20
  I'm going to make a<BR>fortune off the parts<BR></B><BR><B>Oldsmobile =
Cutlass=20
  Cruiser: I get carsick driving minivans<BR><BR>Oldsmobile Delta 88 =
Diesel: I=20
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the=20
  Macarena<BR><BR>Pontiac Trans Am: I have a switchblade in my=20
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otherwise=20
  be<BR>inaccessable to me<BR><BR>Range Rover: I do not care about J.D. =
Powers=20
  or his surveys<BR><BR>Rolls Royce Silver Shadow: I think Maggie =
Thatcher is a=20
  touch too Whig for me<BR><BR>Saturn SL1: I hope someday to make it to =
a=20
  gathering in Spring Hill<BR><BR>Saturn SL2: I made it to a gathering =
in Spring=20
  Hill<BR><BR>Volkswagen Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family=20
  reruns<BR><BR>Volkswagen Jetta: I enjoy putting out engine=20
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now<BR><BR>Volkswagen=20
  New Beetle: I still watch Partridge Family reruns<BR><BR>Volvo 740 =
Wagon: I am=20
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:06:58 -0500
From: "R. Grant" <kgrant442@home.com>
Subject: Ink

I was wondering if any of you Oldsnuts had ever thought about or considered
getting a Olds related tattoo or something related to your car. About 3
years ago I had the Olds logo from my 80 Cutlass tattooed on my arm I was
wondering if I was the only nut out there that had something like this done.
If you have a picture of any tattoos related to Olds I would like to put
them up on my site.

Thanks
Kevin Grant
80 Cultass Supreme
http://members.home.net/kgrant442/
kgrant442@home.com

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:18:12 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1970 Cutlass F/S ( 2nd post)

I   >>   I have received this in my e-mail .This is a co-worker of my wife. I
hope to see this car this week end. I also plan to take some pictures of the
car and post to my ever changing web site.  If there is anyone out there
interessted in this car in this price range, e-mail privately and I can
connect you to the seller. ................SCOTT


    <<1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass...immaculate condition...about  30,000 miles
(currently in storage)...absolutely no rust....350 rocket....received from
my 83 year old aunt...has been garage kept.....original parts...looks like it
just came out of the showroom...$6500....>>


         I forgot to mention that the car is located in Cleveland Ohio

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:38:34 -0500
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: badges

I'm looking for four of the badges from the new Oldsmobiles. The ones that
are an "O" with the rocket launching through it. I believe they started with
'97 or '98 models. I need the chrome ones (might consider gold) from the
fenders, trunk lid, etc from a wrecked car. If anyone knows where some of
these are, or comes across some in a yard, I'll buy them from you.

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:44:18 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Collector Car financing

Tom Williams wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>     I am curious as to some feedback from some of the members on the

Snipping a bit here...

> $12000.00-$15,000.00 but they need to sell the car and are asking
> $5900.00 so I am getting the itch to get the car bought.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any info on this subject.

Tom,

Well, it's tax season so let's do some tax planning here.  No matter how
you go about this deal, if you can finance the car's purchase price with
the equity in your house it will probably be tax deductible.  If you
finance it on your car only, it definitely won't be unless it's used as
a business vehicle.  A lot of loan officers will allow you to use the
equity AND your car to get the loan assuming you will under the 20%
limit the bank/credit union requires as equity in your residence to keep
from having to pay mortgage protection insurance premiums until the
equity amount exceeds 20% of the appraised value.  The mortgage
protection insurance actually covers the lender not the borrower in case
of a repossession, so the idea is to keep a 20% equity to reduce the
outlay.  Now there are a few other requirements for this type of
transaction, but if you qualify and can deduct the interest legally, why
not.  Talk to the man and see what the options are.  Good luck on the
car.  

One word of caution about the above.  Although I am a tax accountant,
the above is a generalization and different circumstances sometimes give
different results so you need to check with your OWN accountant/advisor
for your particular situation.  Also the above would probably only apply
to U.S. tax returns.  I am only bringing the topic up to try and help
take a few bucks out of Uncle Sam's pocket and into yours.  A little
prior planning is usually better than a later "I wish I had ..."

Don Sowers
Nicholasville, Ky

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:50:08 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: 455 roller rocker arms

In a message dated 2/12/99 6:11:40 PM Central Standard Time, patton@ComCAT.COM
writes:

<< 
         I purchased a set of bolt-on no
 mods required roller rockers from Mondello.
 Easy set up and adjustment....
 
 My two cents
 The General     :o{)}
  >>


Yeh, and so did my friend. When he noticed that he had ~3~ bent
pushrods...Mondello charged him $160 for ~3!~ replacements...WHAT A
BARGAIN!!!!!

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:50:56 EST
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Where's conv. top hyd. fluid go?

Greg,
Here's what to do to refill your conv. top pump.
1. Remove the rubber plug in the side of the pump
2.  Insert a rubber hose into the hole and into a jar filled with trans fluid.
Make sure the hose stays submerged in the fluid and that it fits tightly into
the pump.
3. Run the top up and down several(5-10) times. Watch the fluid level.
4. When you're satisfied with how it works, remove the hose and allow the
fluid to run  out of the pump till it stops. The correct fluid should be at
the bottom of the fill hole.
5.  Replace the plug and enjoy the  ragtop.
Dennis 

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:00:10 -0500
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: 1932 Olds Prices (Garys questions)

Gary Couse wrote:
> 
> Hello family,
> 
> I did see that attached Pic of the 1932 Olds that apparently came through
> the list. Let me say, (with rolled up newspaper in hand), Bad Larry, Bad
> Larry. No pics through the list.
> 
> OK, That's now done. Ahhh, "I feel much better". So, to the list. I was just
> thinking (Oh No) about what that particular 1932 4 door went for new?
F series (6 cylinder) 4 door sedan base price was $955. 6139 built.
F series (6 cylinder) 4 door Patrician sedan base price was $990. 2367
built.
L series (8 cylinder) 4 door sedan base price was $1055. 1776 built.
L series (8 cylinder) 4 door Patrician sedan base price was $1090. 2364
built.
BTW, all engines were straight.  The 8 cylinder models had 2 windshield
wipers, while the 6 cylinder models only had 1.

> Was there any options from either Olds or the dealer?
Whitewall tires, 5 wheels $7.50
Whitewall tires, 6 wheels $9.00
Accessory group one (front & rear bumpers, electric clock,spare whel
lock and radiator cap lock) $33.00
Chromium plated hood doors $12.50
Rear spare tire cover (black) $12.00
Rear spare tire cover (body color) $13.00
"Trunk", actually a luggage rack (black) $30.00
"Trunk", actually a luggage rack (body color) $32.00
Fitted luggage was also available for the "trunk"

> What motor'(s) & transmissions might have been available?
6 cylinder bore of 3.32, stroke of 4.13, 213cid, 74hp.
8 cylinder bore of 3, stroke of 4.25, 240cid, 87hp.

> Had synchronized Trans evolved by then?
The synchromesh 3 speed was the only available transmission.  This was
first offered in 1931.

> What spark control and carbs were available then?
6 cylinders had a single throat Stromberg downdraft carb.
8 cylinders had a Duplex downdraft carb.

> Can't tell in this pic, but were AM radios available in 1932?
Nope

> Are those steel or wooden spoke rims?
Wooden, although wire was available.

> Were White wall tires available in 32?
See options

> Was Black the only color?
No, there were a lot of colors available.

> Is that a face in the hub caps, or some aspect of cap attachment?
It's a chrome hub with the Olds logo.
 

- -- 
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)
95 Aurora 
OCA# 30442

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:12:30 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: 1970 Cutlass F/S ( 2nd post)

OLDS44272@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I   >>   I have received this in my e-mail .This is a co-worker of my wife. I
> hope to see this car this week end. I also plan to take some pictures of the
> car and post to my ever changing web site.  If there is anyone out there
> interessted in this car in this price range, e-mail privately and I can
> connect you to the seller. ................SCOTT
> 
>     <<1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass...immaculate condition...about  30,000 miles
> (currently in storage)...absolutely no rust....350 rocket....received from
> my 83 year old aunt...has been garage kept.....original parts...looks like it
> just came out of the showroom...$6500....>>
> 
>          I forgot to mention that the car is located in Cleveland Ohio

If it's a ragtop I'll be there in about 45 minutes.  I'm only about 350
miles away.  :)

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:24:25 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Mondello  was Re: 455 roller rocker arms

Hi Guys,
   It's me again. Collyn's response to the rocker arm thread reminded me of
something that's been bothering me. Now before I start let me state that I'm
not bashing Mondello, merely confused about a few things. About a month ago
I called and ordered the Tech Manual and asked if I could get a parts
catalog with it. The girl said that I could have one for $9 but it would be
last year's because the new ones aren't ready yet. So I figured I'd order
the old one and they'd send a new one when it was ready. She said sure again
for another $9 dollars. So then I asked if the catalog cost was deductible
from the first order. Again she said sure but only $5. So now let me get
this straight, I spend $18 on catalogs and get reimbursed $5 on my first
order. Again she says (you guessed it) sure but only if the order exceeds
$100. So that got me thinking that his parts prices must be so cheap that he
needs to make a profit on catalog sales to cover his overhead. Then I see
that three pushrods cost $160 and I only need what like $850 worth of them
to do my motor. Man at that rate I'll need to apply for a home equity loan
just to build the top end. 
   So what's the scoop on Mondello? I'm sure that he forgot more than I'll
never know about Oldsmobiles but I get the feeling that he's looking to
retire early. I mean just put yourself in my place. I'm new to Olds motors
and don't find what I need in the free Summit and Jeg's catalogs so I call
Mondello expecting similar treatment. I did order the new catalog whenever
it's ready though.
TTYL,
Gene

>Yeh, and so did my friend. When he noticed that he had ~3~ bent
>pushrods...Mondello charged him $160 for ~3!~ replacements...WHAT A
>BARGAIN!!!!!
>
>Collyn Eastham
>65 442
>65 Cutlass
>

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:32:18 EST
From: Dan442Olds@aol.com
Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?

So we can use our delete buttons when the same questions are answered and beat
to death so many times that they end up in 2 word e-mails.  Sometimes I wonder
if there is a contest to see who will be THE LAST ONE to answer a post.

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:44:06 -0500
From: <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: why are we talking about Chevys?

me too!

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Dan442Olds@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 11:32 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?


So we can use our delete buttons when the same questions are answered and
beat
to death so many times that they end up in 2 word e-mails.  Sometimes I
wonder
if there is a contest to see who will be THE LAST ONE to answer a post.

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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:50:00 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: why are we talking about Chevys?

me too!!!

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