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oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, February 18 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1789



Re: SPRING---Training
RE: SPRING---Training
Re: Roll Call
Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Re: Cut off tool
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Re: Resto $$
Olds display cabinet
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Interesting Thread (was Re: Roll call)
ROLL CALL
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Date:	Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:00:06 -0500
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
The Holy Order of Rocketeers needs YOU!
Re: Roll Call
MN Mps/St.P Yardes was roll call.
Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")
Re: Roll Call
Re: The Holy Order of Rocketeers needs YOU!
Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")
Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")
Re: The Holy Order of Rocketeers needs YOU!
70 442 conv....
Re: Roll Call
Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")
Re: Gas Mileage
67' 442 heads
Roll Call Update.
Re: Re: Roll call
Re:  Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Bye, for quite some time.
Re: Seatbelt/shoulder harness
Jason Doby Project
Re: Roll Call
Roll Call
Re: Screen Saver Pics update(73 Musclecars)
RE: roll call
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
RE: interior swap
EXHAUST MANIFOLDS
Carb Question
Re: windows arrived!
Re: What A Body radiator for a '71 VC?
Re: Carb Question
FW: interior swap
Re: Bye, for quite some time.
Re: Rip off
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: roll call
Re: Roll call
Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: Roll Call
Re: was screen Saver Pics update, now 73-77 cutlass
Re: Roll Call Update.
Re: windows arrived!
Re: BAD American Cars
Re: Conv't Top Replacement
455 in motor home
Re: Screen Saver Pics update
Re: Screen Saver Pics update

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:24:33 EST
From: Lou0118@aol.com
Subject: Re: SPRING---Training

In a message dated 02/18/1999 10:52:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jh2nlla@noblecan.org writes:

<<  Hey List,   Baseball SPRING!!!Training is underway...a sure sign that
 SPRING is near. A bit of trivia here:How many career Home Runs did
 Dave"KingKong"Kingman hit?
 Chris Smetana you are not allowed to answer!!!!
 THINK SPRING!!!!Jack
  >>
 The best number of all - 442

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:25:41 -0500
From: "Semantana Chris (ONEX)" <SemantanaC@tce.com>
Subject: RE: SPRING---Training

>      Hey List,   Baseball SPRING!!!Training is underway...a sure sign that
> SPRING is near. A bit of trivia here:How many career Home Runs did
> Dave"KingKong"Kingman hit?
> Chris Smetana you are not allowed to answer!!!!
> THINK SPRING!!!!Jack
> 
Oh, Oh, Oh (hand raised and waving confidently) .... man!!!!  :-)

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
http://www.abcs.com/chris/

1969 W-31
1969 4-4-2 parts car
plus others

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:31:52 EST
From: R4C442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Retired after 33 years with the Xerox Corporation as a technician. Doing
whatever I want whenever I want!
										
Ron Forsee
										
65 442-Meister

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:30:49 -0500
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Harry's U-Pull It in Hazelton Pennsylvania.

About 1 1/2 hours north of Reading if you go up Rte 61 to Rte 81.
About  5 1/2 hours hours from Pitt, used to take a good 4 or so hours to get
to Johnstown from Reading area.

Randy

>Where exactually is Hazelton, PA? Say in relation to
>York/Altoona/Pittsburg/Reading. I don't have a map handy right now.
>Thanks
>
>Omega Man
>'74 Omega S 455
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:34:19 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

You bet we're upset. I'm sick and tire of being treated like a second class
Oldsmobile owner because I have a 75 Cutlass. I chose that car above many of
the 67-72's I looked at. For one thing, my 75 (not stock) will eat most
anything for lunch, including other series Cutlasses. Man it ticks me off to
be have my car treated like a red-headed stepchild. I gotta tell you, the
parts houses do it, the Olds specialty houses do it, and even this list
tends to do it. The 73-75 Cutlass was sleeker looking than all of the other
years, and definitely had more creature comforts. Contrary to popular
belief, there's very little weight difference and what difference there is
comes from the Ralph Nader bumpers that they put on these cars. Maybe we
need a 73-75 series list.

Ticks me off . . . grumble, grumble . . .  keep your ol' screensaver anyway
. . . grumble, grumble . . . (kicking dirt)

- -----Original Message-----

>
><< Sorry to bother you all again, but I want to let you know the cutoff
point
> for vehicles is '72.  Due to the body style change, I would rather not
> include any '73- on models in this ss.  I hope you understand.  Again,
thank
> you everyone for the pictures.  I can't guarantee that I'll use 'em all,
but
> I do appreciate it, and I know the list does as well.  Take care!
>  >>
>
>This might get Hot Rod Harry and a few others on the list upset.  I guess
your
>next project will be the '73 - '77 models.  Thanks for your hard work.  I'm
>sure everyone one the list appreciates your efforts.
>
>Lou Principe
>69 442 W-30
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:34:31 -0500
From: "RANDY A GEISEL" <RANDYGEISEL@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Cut off tool

Snap on carries them....not sure of the price, but can ask when Jay (Snap-on
guy) stops by next Tuesday.

Randy

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:39:40 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

Better looking? Sleeker, LOL, look like land yachts! 

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:40:06 EST
From: Gutlass66@aol.com
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

Just kiddin', i like em all, as long as its  a 4bbl and RWD.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:36:35 -0600 (CST)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Resto $$

Well, are you kidding? Sure a good price! I think some body shops will 
take this for bare metal strip plus paint job labor only!

Regards, George

- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Peter Landowski wrote:

> Would the following price be fair for a LABOR (parts not included) only
> restoration??
> 
> Take entire car and strip paint to bare metal
> Take off front core support, fenders, doors, hood, trunk, dash, interior
> (shell of car on frame is left)
> Take out front window and reseal it
> Take out entire conv't top assembly and reinstall
> Spray primer and new paint and get the car as STRAIGHT as an arrow
> Paint on W-30 hood and body stripes
> Put back all doors, panels, interior, chrome,etc..
> Re-install all electrical, dash,etc..
> Re-install motor/trans
> Car now has mirror-like straight paint and all doors,trunk, hood has been
> aligned and on the car
> Car is now in "show" condition where I believe it can easily win best
> paint,etc...
> And other misc. items I can't remember now
> 
> All for $3200  labor only(parts not included)
> 
> A good price???
> Pettrix@prodigy.net
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:00:05 EST
From: R4C442@aol.com
Subject: Olds display cabinet

Hey gang,
	I know where an Olds display case/cabinet/tower whatever you might 
call it
exists.It stands about 7 ft tall by 3 ft wide and about 18 in deep. It has a
storage compartment in the lower half with three shelves which are accessed by
opening a door. It is painted some sort of tan/gold (probably an actual
available car color). A raised and chromed "OLDSMOBILE' is on the facia and
the entire unit is tastefully pin-striped with a dark maroon color. The guy
wants $50 for it but shipping may be fairly costly because of the unit's size
and weight (approx 100 lbs.) I am in Dayton, Ohio. Let me know if you are
interested.
											
Ron Forsee
											
65 442-Meister

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:02:25 EST
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

In a message dated 2/18/99 11:36:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
comid@jellico.com writes:

well, you have to understand these things, and let them go.  i know how you
feel, heck, your car is closer to meeting the wants of the list than mine is!
i drive a '78 cutlass, and here a while back the guys with the g-bodys had to
get another list because this list "was intended for pre '77 cars".  however,
i was just fine with everybody being on one list.  i dont mind the guys with
the '30something olds as well as the guys with the '77 oldses.  there will
always be majorities of preferences.  im guessing most guys on this list
have'69-72 cutlasses.  anyways, you have to overlook these things.  maybe
there will be a screensaver dedicated to the years where your car would fit
in.i think its great that anyone is making a screensaver, regardless of years,
i like to see oldsmobiles, so im not going to start bashing anyone because
they dont mention or like my car.  
jeremy
BIGJERMES@aol.com

<< You bet we're upset. I'm sick and tire of being treated like a second class
 Oldsmobile owner because I have a 75 Cutlass. I chose that car above many of
 the 67-72's I looked at. For one thing, my 75 (not stock) will eat most
 anything for lunch, including other series Cutlasses. Man it ticks me off to
 be have my car treated like a red-headed stepchild. I gotta tell you, the
 parts houses do it, the Olds specialty houses do it, and even this list
 tends to do it. The 73-75 Cutlass was sleeker looking than all of the other
 years, and definitely had more creature comforts. Contrary to popular
 belief, there's very little weight difference and what difference there is
 comes from the Ralph Nader bumpers that they put on these cars. Maybe we
 need a 73-75 series list.
 
 Ticks me off . . . grumble, grumble . . .  keep your ol' screensaver anyway
 . . . grumble, grumble . . . (kicking dirt)
  >>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:17:35 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

Yea, talk about being a minority. Seems I'm the only Omega guy on the list.
You don't see me P-ing and moaning about putting one in the screensaver.
Sure would be nice though......

Omega Man
2-'74 Omegas







At 12:02 PM 2/18/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/18/99 11:36:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>comid@jellico.com writes:
>
>well, you have to understand these things, and let them go.  i know how you
>feel, heck, your car is closer to meeting the wants of the list than mine is!
>i drive a '78 cutlass, and here a while back the guys with the g-bodys had to
>get another list because this list "was intended for pre '77 cars".  however,
>i was just fine with everybody being on one list.  i dont mind the guys with
>the '30something olds as well as the guys with the '77 oldses.  there will
>always be majorities of preferences.  im guessing most guys on this list
>have'69-72 cutlasses.  anyways, you have to overlook these things.  maybe
>there will be a screensaver dedicated to the years where your car would fit
>in.i think its great that anyone is making a screensaver, regardless of
years,
>i like to see oldsmobiles, so im not going to start bashing anyone because
>they dont mention or like my car.  
>jeremy
>BIGJERMES@aol.com
>
><< You bet we're upset. I'm sick and tire of being treated like a second
class
> Oldsmobile owner because I have a 75 Cutlass. I chose that car above many of
> the 67-72's I looked at. For one thing, my 75 (not stock) will eat most
> anything for lunch, including other series Cutlasses. Man it ticks me off to
> be have my car treated like a red-headed stepchild. I gotta tell you, the
> parts houses do it, the Olds specialty houses do it, and even this list
> tends to do it. The 73-75 Cutlass was sleeker looking than all of the other
> years, and definitely had more creature comforts. Contrary to popular
> belief, there's very little weight difference and what difference there is
> comes from the Ralph Nader bumpers that they put on these cars. Maybe we
> need a 73-75 series list.
> 
> Ticks me off . . . grumble, grumble . . .  keep your ol' screensaver anyway
> . . . grumble, grumble . . . (kicking dirt)
>  >>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:20:53 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

Someone wrote:
<< You bet we're upset. I'm sick and tire of being treated like a second class
 Oldsmobile owner because I have a 75 Cutlass. I chose that car above many of
 the 67-72's I looked at. For one thing, my 75 (not stock) will eat most
 anything for lunch, including other series Cutlasses. Man it ticks me off to
 be have my car treated like a red-headed stepchild. I gotta tell you, the
 parts houses do it, the Olds specialty houses do it, and even this list
 tends to do it. The 73-75 Cutlass was sleeker looking than all of the other
 years, and definitely had more creature comforts. Contrary to popular
 belief, there's very little weight difference and what difference there is
 comes from the Ralph Nader bumpers that they put on these cars. Maybe we
 need a 73-75 series list.
 
 Ticks me off . . . grumble, grumble . . .  keep your ol' screensaver anyway
 . . . grumble, grumble . . . (kicking dirt)

I think the screen saver is cool and it should only have those years and if
someone,maybe myself, wants to make a screen saver for 73-77 so be it. I have
had all of the year Oldsmobiles and Yes I do own a very rare 73 Cutlass
455/4spd.Yes the weight difference is only about 150 to 200 pounds and the
lengths are almost equal and yes they are real fast cars from the factory when
ordered that way. but come on! they definitely are not the nicest looking cars
compared to the 68-72s! So the earlier years will always be more popular.
Thats just the way it is, I love them all!
  Hot Rod Harry...http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html.....my 73s webpage

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:40:42 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Interesting Thread (was Re: Roll call)

I think this has been a particularly interesting thread, especially since I
haven't been s#bscribed for a half-a-dozen months here.  It's real cool to
see where everyone lives and what their passions are, in the non-Olds realm.

But to be completely honest, <whisper> I'm surprised you *haven't* stopped
it Greg </whisper>.  :-)  But, I'm glad you haven't...it will do us all good
to learn each other's background.

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Roll call


>Normally I would stop this stuff, but I've learned that they are sort of
>like the common cold: if you don't take any action it lasts 14 days, but
>if you fight it right from the start it takes 2 weeks to disappear. And
>besides, it's been a while, there are lots of new folks, and maybe if we
>got to know each other better there would be less of the bickering that
>has clouded our sunny dispositions of late. That's my story, and... well,
>you know... ;-)

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:43:36 -0500 (EST)
From: jhbII <jh2nlla@noblecan.org>
Subject: ROLL CALL

      Hi List,   Here I go
Jack Bazur
Landscape Designer/Installer
LaOtto,In.
OLDSMOBILES: MANY!!!!! including
68 442 conv.[purchased the day "WE" were married,26 years ago
68 H/O
69 H/O
70 W-30 [bamboo gold]
70 W-31 post [bamboo gold]
70 RALLYE 350 [YELLOW!!]                                          Who ever
is keeping "track"of this,PLEASE try and  post it when completed.
THANKS, Jack                                              

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:49:26 -0500
From: "Jason Adcock" <rocketolds@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

Regardless of your personal kin-ship (sp?) with your car, they're just not
as popular as the older ones.  Doesn't mean our cars are any less of an
Olds, though.  I'll bet your '75 would take just about any car on campus
around here...certainly mine...and that's cool -- to us.  To the parts guys,
if they can't make a profit because of lower demand, they're not goin' to
repro the parts.  I've got an '84 G-body...who here has one of them?  Who
makes parts for 'em?  Very few places even deal with G-bodies right now,
because they're just not as popular, or even needing resto parts...they're
gettin' there, though.  Car Craft pointed out that they're relatively light
and you can get them for a song.  In stock grocery-getter form, most of
them'd be late for their own funeral, but you can easily slap in a 403 and
run with a lot of the A-body guys...except for *your* A-body it sounds like.
:-)

As with everything else in the world, it all comes down to economics...there
just aren't as many folks with '73-'87 restos right now, so the pickin's
slim.  Once the '73-'77 A-bodies start retiring, more folks'll start
rebuilding them and you'll have parts-a-plenty to pick at.  Folks will start
doing screensavers for them, too.  :-)

Jason Adcock
mailto:rocketolds@vt.edu
http://members.xoom.com/jadcock

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ed Binnix <comid@jellico.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update


>anything for lunch, including other series Cutlasses. Man it ticks me off
to
>be have my car treated like a red-headed stepchild. I gotta tell you, the
>parts houses do it, the Olds specialty houses do it, and even this list
>tends to do it. The 73-75 Cutlass was sleeker looking than all of the other
>years, and definitely had more creature comforts.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:00:06 -0500
From: "Eckart, Douglas A. SFC" <eckartd@emh.gordon.army.mil>
Subject: Date:	Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:00:06 -0500

unsubscribe oldsmobile-digest eckartd@emh.gordon.army.mil

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:27:54 -0600
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

OK...me too.

Mark Tupper
Portage, WI
Lead VB Programmer/Software Designer, Equinox Interactive

Olds G-Body List Administrator

Age: 35

1987 442 (Black/silver) w/astro-roof

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/
 Olds G-Body Mailing List    http://cyberglyphs.com/gbody/

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:31:58 EST
From: EDZX6@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Eddie Martin (30)
Miami, FL
Electronics tech (civilian) / Army reservist (machinist) / former Navy
aviation mech
USS Saratoga Desert Storm VET
72 Cutlass S   conv / 4spd
(daily driver blue w/ black top)

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:45:26 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: The Holy Order of Rocketeers needs YOU!

In a message dated 99-02-17 16:32:13 EST, you write:

> currenntly US Navy LT
>  Soon to be looking for work.....anybody know of any openings for an 
> aerospace
>  engingeering trained, diver with explosive ordnance disposal experience?
>  69 442 conv

Hmmm,

Sounds like a perfect candidate!
The Holy Order of Rocketeers (THOR) is in need of able, experienced bodies for
"shock troops" !

There are, you see, a certain number of non-Olds vehicles roaming about
unhindered.

This is an intolerable situation!

So, you see, it is quite clear, that Karl has an overactive imagination....

(Do not worry, still working on the Olds quote from the Bible.....)
((gonna be ~funny~))

SOM

&KA

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:47:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Stefan Gadecki
Chicopee, MA
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe

Student- Computer Programming Major
Part time job- Instrumentation Technician/database programmer at Rexam
Graphics South Hadley division  
==

     Stefan
     1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
     70Cutlass@Beer.com

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:49:57 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: MN Mps/St.P Yardes was roll call.

>  > Nope,  John's Auto parts in Minneapolis.  You are refering to Viking Auto
>  >Salvage. They are really great guys. A couple of brothers run it name Tony
>  >and Buford Faust.
>  
>  Yeah, Viking.  That's the one.  

Not a local, but have occasion to be there once in a great while.

Could you post the adresses of these places?

Thanks!

SOM

&KA

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:43:52 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")

Ok, I do not want to keep this going...nor do I really want to hear it.  My
reasoning behind keeping the 73's and beyond out are because:

1.) They will get their own screen saver
2.) I can only include so many pics in each.  As of right now, the test SS is 
over
6megs.  How many of you can download a  file of that size easily?  I'm on a T1,
but I know many of you may be on dial-up.

Could we all just be happy about this one.  Hey, I could make them Cheby
specific...now wouldn't that be nice....

Later,

Dan Gerow

- --
- ---------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
Computer Support
Systems Administrator
Stonehill College
320 Washington Street
Easton, MA 02357
dgerow@stonehill.edu
- ---------------------

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:49:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff & Sherie Stanish <stanishj@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

We live further south in Campbell CA (near San Jose).  We have a 1974 VW
Superbeetle; a 1969 H/O (frame-off resto in the garage!); a 1975 H/O; a
1979 H/O; a 1986 Olds 98 Regency (bought last year with 66K original
miles!); one kid, Sean; and one cat! Is there anything else anyone would
like to know?? ;)

Jeff (engineer at Lockheed Martin) & Sherie Stanish (stay-at-home mom)

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Mike Sealey wrote:

> I drive a cab in San Francisco, and live in Pacifica, 13 miles south on 
> the coast.  Sure glad this is one straight 98, 'cuz I wouldn't be able 
> to afford the caliber of bodywork it would deserve if it needed any.  
> 
> (89K original when I bought it at a vehicles-donated-to-charity auction; 
> not my fault nobody else had enough brains to outbid my $450 high 
> bid...)
> 
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> 

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:54:29 EST
From: Zitoj@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Holy Order of Rocketeers needs YOU!

So Karl,

How much does "THOR" pay?

Jim
69 442 conv

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:55:56 -0500
From: dgerow@student.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")

    My last post got cut short...the boss walked in!  Ok guys, listen up 
please.  I
have absolutely no prejudice toward any year Olds.  Honetly.  If anyone hasn't
noticed, the Screen savers are somewhat theme related.  I originally made a 
generic
Olds ss that wasn't very good.  So I got some new programs and made the H/O 
SS.  Now
I'm working on the early to mid Cutlass/442 version.  I figure, with the help 
of all
of you, I'll be able to get enough pics to do later year cutlass/442s, Omega, 
and
fullsizes as well.  Yes, its true that my personal favorties are late 60's - 
early
70's, but I'm trying to look out for everyone.  Does this make sense?  Hey, 
like I
said, I could forget about the whole thing in entirety...or you guys who have 
differnt
years and models not featured yet can hang on.  I'm not going to sell you
short...don't worry.  This is like one of those things when you try to do 
something
nice for someone, it always comes back to haunt you.....  :)
Hang on guys...

Take care,

Dan

- --
- ---------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
Computer Support
Systems Administrator
Stonehill College
320 Washington Street
Easton, MA 02357
dgerow@stonehill.edu
- ---------------------

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:04:27 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")

Keep up the great work! If you need any help making a screensaver for the
73-77s
(To keep some people happy) I"ll be happy to do some of the leg work. Dont
forget the 1978-1988s either. and dont forget the OMEGA MAN...those Omegas are
cool!!
             Hot Rod Harry from South Jersey

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:08:10 EST
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Holy Order of Rocketeers needs YOU!

In a message dated 99-02-18 13:57:47 EST, you write:

> How much does "THOR" pay?

Ummmmm......

Well, as a bona fide religious cult, we will be tax exempt.

((Except for local taxes on gasoline/deisel fuel))

And, as always, "to the victor go the spoils".
So, really, consider yourself to be working on a kind of commission.

And you should ~see~ the Vista Cruisers we will be using as transports!

Gotta cull the archives for the original T.H.O.R. posting.....it came out in
the wake of the "Heaven's Gate" sensation.

Can cults get a discount on Ebay??

SOM

&KA

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:10:56 EST
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: 70 442 conv....

     this guy i know might be selling his car.  the car is mostly restored
with exception of new interrior.  somebody offered him $11,500 and he said no.
the guy came back and offered him $12,000 for it the next weekend.  is this
price too low?
     the car is a 70 442 convertable, automatic, column shift, ac, power
brakes, steering, windows, and top.  it has new gm quarters and fenders on it.
all the chrome is brand new.  has ssll rims with new chrome all around.  the
car is painted factory azure blue, and has dark blue top.  90% of the car is
number matching fully documented.  it's missing origional heads, and tranny.
the engine was completely rebuilt and later model heads were installed.
tranny is a th-400.  all together there is atleast $8,000 worth of brand new
gm stuff.  if he doesn't sell it for $12,000, he is always open to offers.  i
will have some pics of the car from resto and of the car in present state.
let me know what you guys think.

mikeytvb@aol.com
70 442 hc

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:20:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave Welsh <dlwels@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Dave Welsh
Janesville, WI
Safety and Environmental Compliance Manager
70 Cutlass

==
Dave Welsh  dlwels@yahoo.com
1553 Read Road
Janesville, Wisconsin 53546
(608) 756-4352

'70 Cutlass S 
'69 Cutlass Supreme parts car
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:22:56 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Making Amends (was "Screen Saver Pics update")

OOh yea baby!. I can help too. I have a MASSIVE collection of muscle car
mags of all kinds and a scanner. Let me know what you need. I got it!
Including some of those AWESOME Omegas! BTW, How long does it take to put
one of those screensavers together? Is it pretty involved?

Omega Man
'74 Omega 455rocket




At 02:04 PM 2/18/99 EST, you wrote:
>Keep up the great work! If you need any help making a screensaver for the
>73-77s
>(To keep some people happy) I"ll be happy to do some of the leg work. Dont
>forget the 1978-1988s either. and dont forget the OMEGA MAN...those Omegas
are
>cool!!
>             Hot Rod Harry from South Jersey
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:38:20 -0600
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

Yes, time for a new O2 sensor. The engine computer senses a lean
condition (based upon sensor inputs), so it will try to compensate by
richening the mixture. But the computer's sensors are reporting that the
lean condition is persisting, so it richens the mixture more, up to it's
pre-programmed limits. Then it sets the code 44, "Lean Exhaust
Indication". The computer is being tricked into thinking a lean
condition exists because a bad sensor is giving it bad data. Garbage in,
garbage out. Try a new O2 sensor before "adjusting" elsewhere.

==========
 More info - the Check Engine light comes on after 10 minutes of solid
 highway driving, and the computer returns Error Code 44, which
translates
 into "Lean Exhaust Indication"...this would not have a negative impact
on
 fuel economy, would it?
- ----------
Sounds to me like it's time for a new oxygen sensor.  Check the air
filter too.  Mightaswell price a 455 swap.  Just ask Igor. :-)

- --
David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu
          Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
http://www.442.com   OR   http://www.en.com/users/thall
Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
           ftp://arl.arizona.edu/lists/olds

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:40:23 -0800
From: gary snyder <gary@saaborama.com>
Subject: 67' 442 heads

Hello,

    I'm sorry but I am a bad note keeper. I can't remember if you are
the person I e-mailed a couple of months ago for a pair of used '67 442
heads. If you are please write me back and if you are not sorry for
bothering you.
Thanks,
Gary Snyder
Saab-O-Rama
Gary@saaborama.com
2335 Soquel Dr.
Santa Cruz, CA 95065
831-479-7890

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:54:25 -0500
From: "Gary Couse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Roll Call Update.

As of this moment I collected 157 original responses to the Roll Call
starting from the very first request. Still a far cry from 500+ but growing.
Anyone else wishing to be included please respond as the others have so
well. Use the subject "Roll Call" so that others wishing to by-pass these
posts can easily identify and delete them. Thanks again Greg.....

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom's
Route-1, Box-615
Purling, NY 12470

ICQ# 5209322
gjcouse@francomm.com
gjcouse@cc-iroc-ss.com

Custom Conversion Prototype:
CC-IROC-SS-#001 =  "Quincy"
http://www.CC-IROC-SS.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:07:09 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Roll call

In a message dated 2/18/99, 5:55:08 AM, oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca writes:

<<Testing my new signature file...

Greg Beaulieu
Olds List Administrator
Senior Policy Analyst, Dept. of Finance, Province of Nova Scotia>>


Whew!  Guess that means I'm not gonna get yelled at for starting this "roll
call" thread :-)

- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-
 Midday guy on Mix103FM
 Live audio at: www.mix103fm.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:13:19 EST
From: OldsRokkit@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: Screen Saver Pics update

In a message dated 2/18/99, 12:23:02 PM, oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca writes:

<< Yes I do own a very rare 73 Cutlass
455/4spd.Yes the weight difference is only about 150 to 200 pounds and the
lengths are almost equal and yes they are real fast cars from the factory when
ordered that way>>

Wasn't a lot of the performance loss due to the stricter emissions
requirements for 73-74?  Before catalytic converters when they added on all
that junk that choked off the motors, especially the bigger ones?

- -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:19:37 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Bye, for quite some time.

Well, folks, something's come up (tenure denied) that I'm going to have to
work on overturning in one respect or another. This means I'll be off all
lists indefinitely, starting immediately.

Hate to leave, but it's a matter of survival.
________________________________________________
Bob Barry  	    MailTo:RBarry@Providence.Edu
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels/

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:28:41 -0600
From: "Tim Oden" <toden@mastnet.net>
Subject: Re: Seatbelt/shoulder harness

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:51:11 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Jason Doby Project

Hi Guys,
   I've seen references to the Jason Doby Project but am not sure who Jason
Doby is. Could someone please fill me in? Thanks,
Gene

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:43:07 -0500
From: "Chris Urban" <urbanch@magi.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Chris Urban

69 442 Conv
72 Hurst
69 Drag car 9.7's

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:50:28 -0500
From: Bill <dickinson@skow.net>
Subject: Roll Call

Bill Dickinson
Skowhegan Maine

I work in our family owned Variety store in Fairfield Maine
My toys,
66 F-85 330 auto  A/C  car
67 442 hdtp 455 4spd
67 442 convertible 4spd resto project
70 Cutlass S 350 auto console
70 Cutlass F-85 455 4spd 4:56 rear.  fun!
70 Cutlass W-31 4spd

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:04:52 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update(73 Musclecars)

In a message dated 99-02-18 15:15:27 EST, you write:

<< Wasn't a lot of the performance loss due to the stricter emissions
 requirements for 73-74?  Before catalytic converters when they added on all
 that junk that choked off the motors, especially the bigger ones?
 
 -Drew in Windy Western Kansas-
  >>
Go to my web page and get ready for a surprise as to what Olds still had in
73.
here is my link   http://members.aol.com/magsurv/index.html

Performance was still very hot ! 73 Cutlass' with the equipment that my car
came with from the factory turned  0 to 60 times in the 6s and the 1/4 mile in
the14.80s. Thats bone stock with the 455-Ka heads/4 speed, stock tires and
factory tuning.Which at the time was not up to par what an Olds should be
tuned to. So a well prepped 73 like mine could easily turn low 14s and maybe
dip into the 13.90s range in the 1/4 mile with the right gearing and M&H
racemasters tires.

I will stop there..dont get me going...I have owned some hot musclecars and I
have to say that the 73 I have is a true factory musclecar.....I have had 11
second 1/4 mile prototype cobra m_stangs and 13 sec. Ram Air IV  P_ontiac GTOs
and 13 Sec. 
 396 SS Che_elles, and the list goes on and on.    

  As for cats in 73..not until 75 did they use them and single exhuast in most
models do to the expense of cats at the time for GM.73s just had the EGR . The
motors are the same as the 71s and 72s except the 455/4spd in 73 had big
valved Ka heads.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:35:19 -0800
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: roll call

O.k., I'm in
Chris Fair, 33, single in name only, SF Bay Area, CA.
 
I work for a scoring systems company. We build statistical decision tools
for banks and others to predict human behavior. Banks use our tools to do
preapproved credit cards, instant credit and loan decisions, among other
things.

My Olds'
66 98 Convertible -- Dad's car 320K miles, bout 210K mine Red, Black top,
black interior. This one is tweaked with HEI, disk brakes, stereo, etc. plus
most of the factory options including a sometimes functional factory cruise
unit.

66 Starfire Coupe -- New project, Autumn Bronze, soon to be white interior,
originally red, A/c car, 455/TH400. Now has most of the toys including power
windows which I just put in. 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:31:05 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

Dang, you guys are uptight. I thought it would be obvious to everyone that
my post was in good humor. I added the last line to try to make that clear.
While the lack of *everything* for 73-77 cars is frustrating, I don't really
get ticked off about much of anything. I do however, think that the lines of
the 73-75 are much better than the 67-72 series cars. That's my opinion. Oh,
and I'd love to get my hands on an Omega!  I have to admit that 76-77
Cutlass got too boxy for my taste. Though they began to improve in the
G-body. By 82, I think they too, became a much better looking car than the
67-72 series. I think the big fat tall grills on the 71-72 are butt ugly.
But then, that's my opinion. All in good humor boys (and girls?).

- -----Original Message-----

>
>Yea, talk about being a minority. Seems I'm the only Omega guy on the list.
>You don't see me P-ing and moaning about putting one in the screensaver.
>Sure would be nice though......
>
>Omega Man
>2-'74 Omegas
>
>
>At 12:02 PM 2/18/99 EST, you wrote:
>>In a message dated 2/18/99 11:36:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>comid@jellico.com writes:
>>
>>well, you have to understand these things, and let them go.  i know how
you
>>feel, heck, your car is closer to meeting the wants of the list than mine
is!
>>i drive a '78 cutlass, and here a while back the guys with the g-bodys had
to
>>get another list because this list "was intended for pre '77 cars".
however,
>>i was just fine with everybody being on one list.  i dont mind the guys
with
>>the '30something olds as well as the guys with the '77 oldses.  there will
>>always be majorities of preferences.  im guessing most guys on this list
>>have'69-72 cutlasses.  anyways, you have to overlook these things.  maybe
>>there will be a screensaver dedicated to the years where your car would
fit
>>in.i think its great that anyone is making a screensaver, regardless of
>years,
>>i like to see oldsmobiles, so im not going to start bashing anyone because
>>they dont mention or like my car.
>>jeremy
>>BIGJERMES@aol.com
>>
>><< You bet we're upset. I'm sick and tire of being treated like a second
>class
>> Oldsmobile owner because I have a 75 Cutlass. I chose that car above many
of
>> the 67-72's I looked at. For one thing, my 75 (not stock) will eat most
>> anything for lunch, including other series Cutlasses. Man it ticks me off
to
>> be have my car treated like a red-headed stepchild. I gotta tell you, the
>> parts houses do it, the Olds specialty houses do it, and even this list
>> tends to do it. The 73-75 Cutlass was sleeker looking than all of the
other
>> years, and definitely had more creature comforts. Contrary to popular
>> belief, there's very little weight difference and what difference there
is
>> comes from the Ralph Nader bumpers that they put on these cars. Maybe we
>> need a 73-75 series list.
>>
>> Ticks me off . . . grumble, grumble . . .  keep your ol' screensaver
anyway
>> . . . grumble, grumble . . . (kicking dirt)
>>  >>
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:36:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: RE: interior swap

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com wrote:
> I have a 68 cutlass conv with bench seats (50/50 split).  I'd like to
> keep them that way.  But right now I can't get the passenger side to
> engage into a hold position.....makes for some exciting rides if your
> the passenger.

I'm not sure I understand... I know of no '68 Cutlass with a split bench.
Is it a later-model retrofit? It sounds as though the whole seat is
moving, in which case I assume it is a retrofit and perhaps the adjustment
mechanism is not installed correctly or needs adjustment.

If it is just the backrest, then possibly I misread your message. The
backrest on the '68 is locked via a stout metal loop on the seat bottom,
obscured by the backrest when upright, which engages a v-shaped catch in
the seat back. I think the catch has a tension spring in the mechanism to
hold it in the locked position.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
 ---- Olds List Admin Instructions found at: http://unsub.tsx.org ----

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:45:21 PST
From: "scott slater" <slater442w30@hotmail.com>
Subject: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS

I own a 78 Cutlass Supreme that I recently put a 350 Olds out of a 70 
Cutlass in and I have a problem with the exhaust manifold on the 
passenger side.  The car has dual exhaust and it works pretty good 
except when you put the car into reverse the pipe rubs on the frame 
causing a terrible rumble and leak noise.  My brother claims there are 
two different shaped manifolds for 350 Olds engines. If anyone else 
knows if this is true or how to fix it with what I've got please let me 
know.

Scott Slater
78 Cutlass Supreme
70 Cutlass Supreme


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:56:33 -0600 (CST)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Carb Question

Hi Olds-Listers!

A buddy gave me his older (about 5 jears old) 4 bbl Edelbrock carb. It is 
NOT a performer series. It seems to be a Rochester as far as I can guess. 
It is mostly brass color with a bolted on Edelbrock tag. He sais it is a 
750cfm. Anybody can tell me what kind of carb this may be? Where can I 
get more info about this carb? 

Would you put this on a 350 (all stock except intake)? It seems to be in 
very good shape and he ran it without probs until last week on his BB 
chebby. 

Thanks, George
- --------------------------------------------------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
http://estimator.camd.lsu.edu/georg/sparetime/olds.html
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:07:05 EST
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: windows arrived!

Lance,your welcome, no problem I still love you LOL Chris

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:50:35 -0500
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: What A Body radiator for a '71 VC?

1. What radiator is correct for a '71 VC 455 air, and what year/model
car am I likely to find one in? Anybody got one? I want a 4 row.

2. What does this weird thing I've got fit? I never saw an Oldsmobile
that had a heater hose running back into the radiator.
_____________

I've had good success installing a four-row radiator in the 68-72 A-body
cars.  Simply order the correct four-row for your car (should be about $250
brand new with a lifetime warranty).  Assuming you currently have a
two-row/three-row core support and top plate, you'll need to modify the
brackets that hold the radiator.  I've done this by temporarily removing
the rubber cushions from the top and bottom brackets and straightening out
the forward leg of each bracket to accommodate the wider radiator tanks.  I
straighten the forward bracket so that the radiator can't slide rearward
into the fan.  The cushions can be reinstalled and the new radiator dropped
into place.  There is sufficient friction to retain the radiator even with
the straightened leg on the bracket.  This isn't concourse, but it beats
the alternative of trying to find the correct four-row core support and top
plate.  (Why doesn't anyone repro the wider brackets?)

As for the current radiator in the car, many GM applications use this
configuration.  You are correct in noting that the A-body cars do not use
this configuration.  For example, my 85 Chebby truck has the heater hose
fitting in the passenger-side tank of the radiator.  Simply plugging the
unused nipple is an acceptable (if unsightly) way to use this radiator.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:10:07 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Carb Question

George wrote:

> It is mostly brass color with a bolted on Edelbrock tag. He sais it is a
> 750cfm. Anybody can tell me what kind of carb this may be? Where can I
> get more info about this carb?

It is a QuadraJet.  They are made by Magnetti-Marelli, aka, Weber USA, and
sold by Edelbrock.  Supposedly they are a "refined" Q-Jet.  They are so close
to the original Q-jet, however, that they qualify as an original replacement
carb.  Edelbrock is a good source of info and parts.  However, you cannot buy
directly from Edelbrock.  You need to go through a distributor, like Summit.
It is most likely 750 cfm.  Edelbrock also sells an 850 cfm Q-Jet.

> Would you put this on a 350 (all stock except intake)? It seems to be in
> very good shape and he ran it without probs until last week on his BB
> chebby.

Sure.  I've got an original Rochester Q-jet on my car.  Keep in mind,
however, that these are Chevy-style Q-jets.  So, the throttle linkage will be
Chevy-style.  Also, the fuel inlet will be different from an Olds, which
comes straight in from the front.

- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:34:01 -0600
From: Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com
Subject: FW: interior swap

> I feel dumb but here goes.....this is what I know.
> 
> The "seat of the bench seat is one whole seat...........only the back
> is split (50/50) so you can crawl in the back from either side.
> 
> When I use the lever under the drivers side to adjust the seat -
> forward and back - it "catches" into place on the drivers side but not
> on the passenger side.
> 
> Does that help?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	
> Sent:	Thursday, February 18, 1999 3:36 PM
> To:	
> Subject:	RE: interior swap
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com wrote:
> > I have a 68 cutlass conv with bench seats (50/50 split).  I'd like
> to
> > keep them that way.  But right now I can't get the passenger side to
> > engage into a hold position.....makes for some exciting rides if
> your
> > the passenger.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand... I know of no '68 Cutlass with a split
> bench.
> Is it a later-model retrofit? It sounds as though the whole seat is
> moving, in which case I assume it is a retrofit and perhaps the
> adjustment
> mechanism is not installed correctly or needs adjustment.
> 
> If it is just the backrest, then possibly I misread your message. The
> backrest on the '68 is locked via a stout metal loop on the seat
> bottom,
> obscured by the backrest when upright, which engages a v-shaped catch
> in
> the seat back. I think the catch has a tension spring in the mechanism
> to
> hold it in the locked position.
> 
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia,
> Canada
>  ---- Olds List Admin Instructions found at: http://unsub.tsx.org ----

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:45:38 -0500
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Bye, for quite some time.

Robert Barry wrote:
> 
> Well, folks, something's come up (tenure denied) that I'm going to have to
> work on overturning in one respect or another. This means I'll be off all
> lists indefinitely, starting immediately.
> 
> Hate to leave, but it's a matter of survival.

Robert,

Sorry to hear this.  (Not as disappointed as you and the family I'm
sure.)  Maybe you should try a Baptist university instead as good old
Prov U doesn't seem to appreciate you enough.  If you do, don't mention
my name or they will probably throw rocks at you.  Is there anybody you
need a contract put out on or turned in to IRS that will help grease the
wheels of tenure for you?  Do me one favor if you would.  Keep in touch
with me from time to time and let me know how things are going for you.
My email keeps screwing up so I lose a lot of archives if they aren't
papered.  And you know what happens to a lot of loose paper over a
periof of time.  Should something happen good down this way I'll try to
enlighten you.  OBVIOUSLY if you make a trek down this way, Cincinnati,
Louisville, Lexington, Ashland, Dayton or so let me know and I'll try to
make it also.  Take care of yourself and the ladies.  Good luck.  If I
can help you, let me know.  Later.......

Don

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:44:11 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Rip off

Ray:
Stooping to new lows here, can't believe he upset me that much, it's over,
for me at least.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Master Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Rip off

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:47:01 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Mark:
Three times, nudge, nudge.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Roll Call
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:30 PM
> 
> Lou Biggs wrote:, former Tax Accountant, Mark, hope you don't see this
years
> return, I was very creative.
> Lou,
> Don't worry. We like creativity.
> If the Olds is listed as a business vehicle you get an automatic bye from
me.
> (wink wink)
> 
> Mark

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:58:25 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Don:
Thats illegal.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Roll Call
> > Mark
> 
> Sorry Mark, but he's in a different region I think.  Now if you happen
> to run across one of my client's or (worse than that) my return, THEN we
> can sit down discuss the Olds thread of the day and sip on some suds at
> LaRosa's in Covington.  Actually I get up to the Cincinnati area from
> time to time for softball and other reasons.  Are you in the Covington
> main building or down in Erlanger in the other part?  See you on I-75.
> Later........
> 
> Don Sowers

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:04:04 -0500
From: "Dan" <dsm137@gti.net>
Subject: Re: roll call

Dan Miller    
'67 Cutlass Convertible
Saffron on Saffron
- -----Original Message-----
From: GraphixRUs@aol.com <GraphixRUs@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:40 AM
Subject: roll call


>Is anyone making a list of this roll call?
>I have accidently deleted several  names & would like all of them.
>Appreciate any help.
>Roger Utter
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:06:45 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Roll call

Greg;
Thats one of those political jobs isn't it??
Lou

- ----------
> From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Roll call
> Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 4:54 AM
> 
> 
> Testing my new signature file...
> 
> Greg Beaulieu
> Olds List Administrator
> Senior Policy Analyst, Dept. of Finance, Province of Nova Scotia

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:12:24 +0000
From: Ben Markert <radu@ciris.net>
Subject: Roll Call

Finally decided to jump in here:

Ben Markert
17y/o student @ Mary Carroll High School (my junior year! Yes!)
'68 Cutlass "S", All original(except tranny), 350 4BC, TH-350 with B&M
shift kit, stock rearend, and new upholstery.
Ben Markert, aka Lord Radu Lykan

'68 Cutlass "S" 350, 4bbl, auto: Lila

THM homepage - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5290

The Xena Page - htpp://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2050

emails: radu@ciris.net , radu16@hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:11:25 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Jeff Carter
68 Olds 442
24 years old
part-time UPS driver
Lubbock, TX

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:11:52 EST
From: SOMMERVLLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roll Call

Mark, How are things in detroit? I am getting ready to leave fort bragg for a
year or so if you want some thing from 35 th sig you need to let me know as to
what you want so i can get it for you , Thanks Chris

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:15:48 EST
From: W451973@aol.com
Subject: Re: was screen Saver Pics update, now 73-77 cutlass

come on now, harry. not the nicest looking cars? i`m sorry but i have to
dissagree with that. i believe the major reason why these cars are not as
popular as the older ones is due to availability of parts, and these cars
optioned correctly are every bit as much a musclecar as the early models. just
my 2 cents.                                          dennis
w451973

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:13:40 -0600
From: "patrick derkacz" <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Subject: Re: Roll Call Update.

Patrick Derkacz
attorney

69 442 convertible
69 442 hard top-in the middle of a frame off restoration
69 cutlass post car-sitting on the car trailer next to the house waiting its
turn

2daughters
1 wife
1dog

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:20:21 -0500
From: Thomas Jacquillard <tjacquillard@InfoAve.Net>
Subject: Re: windows arrived!

SOMMERVLLE@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Lance,your welcome, no problem I still love you LOL Chris
WATCH IT CHRIS, don't ask, don't tell, remember
T.J.

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:39:56 -0500
From: "rkn" <rkn@ezaccess.net>
Subject: Re: BAD American Cars

1. In 1973 I hit a curb with a '60 Ch*vy Impala. Sorry but the bolts that
hold the lower control arm pivot to the frame sheared clean off.
2. Got hit 40% -40% head on by a Toyota, I was in an 86 MarkVII. Both cars,
and my neck were totaled. My neck would've been no problem if the Linc*ln
had about 3" more head room, but I got lifted out of my seat, as far as the
seat belt streched and hit my head on the roof. I was almost stopped when
it happened but the Toyota was doing about 40 mph and lost control on the
ice. I must say, the Linc*ln stayed put and the Toyota bounced back about
20 feet. It's all physics.
Now I drive a Ch*vy G-20 conversion van. Lot's of head room, and my Olds is
a Convertible...head room measured in miles.
				R. Kevin Noon
				66 Dynamic 88 Convertible

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> From: Igor T. '81 DRB 455 <igor455@home.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: BAD American Cars
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 2:16 AM
> 
> >I guess the point I'm trying to make is there's always a bigger vehicle
> >out there but with the little cars almost everyone's bigger.
> 
> 
> Right ON.  However with my Regency, there is only a few bigger cars left,
> but lots of bigger trucks.
> 

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:32:13 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Conv't Top Replacement

George:
Toss that one and start from scratch, I installed two conv top w/new pads,
they are a real pain, reinstalled each one about 7 times, redoing the fit
at the tack strip,  they did not look bad to the average person but a top
installer would have rolled on the floor and these were sewn together when
I bought them. GOD, I cannot imagine trying to sew those pieces together
with any degree of accuracy. Good luck. 
Lou.  

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> From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
> To: OldsML <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>

> Dear Olds-Friends, 
> 
> talking about tops: 
> 
> I received a new top from the former owner of my car. It seems to be in 
> single "canvas" peaces! It seems it has to be sewn together! Is this 
> normal?? Does this mean that it was cheap and installation will be more 
> $$? 
> 
> Scary...

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:33:02 -0500
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: 455 in motor home

well the motor fit in the chevy frame a lot better than i expected the
exhaust fit great . the motor mounts on the frame needed to be built up
a 1/4 of inch. now the hard part, the wicked acc. set up   see ya
,.          Butch  68  442  post

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:39:32 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

Ed:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry Greg, I know no me toos on the list, but I also
have a 75 Cut. Supreme, no Supreme, no 67 442.
Lou
PS Just kidding.
PPS The bumpers will break your back, as soon as the last bolt comes out,
run like heck, your going to be crushed.

- ----------
> From: Ed Binnix <comid@jellico.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:43:01 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update

You should see one with a car cover on it, looks like a large iceberg, If
the Titanic would have hit the 75 it would have went down in about 15 sec
with no survivors..
Lou
- ----------
> From: Gutlass66@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Screen Saver Pics update
> Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:39 AM
> 
> Better looking? Sleeker, LOL, look like land yachts! 

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