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oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, February 6 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1757



Re: HURST OLDS
Re: She's In!!
Electrical Wiring
Re: Electrical Wiring
Re: P/S Leak (Was: Sid "Groundhog" Viscious + SOM)
Re: cat?
Re: HURST OLDS
Re: Olds 425/455 V8 in a AMC?
Re: P/S Leak (Was: Sid "Groundhog" Viscious + SOM)
Re: Got the 455 Performer
Re: HURST OLDS
collectibles
Bob Anderson's rides
Re: She's In!!
Special Plates
Re: Electric Choke
Re: She's In!!
Sport Steering Wheels.
Techie Car stuff
Re: Distributor Info: (was: Re: need distributor info)
Re: Sport Steering Wheels.
Re: Intake Manifold Install: Fel-pro
Re: Stock HEI & MSD 6AL
Re: Sport Steering Wheels.
Interesting item on eBay web site item#62109442: CLEAN 87 442 LOADED LOW 
MILES  L@@K L@@K!!!!
Re: Special Plates
Re: parts for sale
15" 80's Olds chrome rim
Re: Special Plates
source for best conv. top boot
Car from he!!
Rochester Carbs
Re: Olds' logo license plates
Re: Olds' logo license plates
Re: Special Plates
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Need_H=EBlp_from_a_ford_owner?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re: Need_H=EBlp_from_a_ford_owner?=
Re: Special Plates
Re: Inter State Emission testing?
RE: Inter State Emission testing?
Re: Inter State Emission testing?
Re: Rochester Carbs
Re: Olds' logo license plates
Re: Olds 425/455 V8 in a AMC?
Re: Rochester Carbs
Re: Special Plates
Re: HURST/OLDS PRICES
Re: Special Plates
Re: Rochester Carbs
My First 455 :  )
WANTED: '71 VC left disc brake spindle and rotor.
Re: Langrage
Re: Rochester Carbs
Re: 455 Engine (fwd)
Check these Items out for 73s for sale on the OCC 73-77site
Re: Electric Choke
Greetings, and questions..
Re: Rochester Carbs
Re: Rochester Carbs
Re: Special Plates
Re: Sport Steering Wheels.

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:16:27 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: HURST OLDS

Well I guess your out of luck no 70 Yenko's that I know of.


>
>the only way i would consider a 70 camaro over a 442 would be if it had
>YENKO painted on the car 
>
>


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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:07:15 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: She's In!!

You mean next spring, right?? For a full body off resto it can take many
years...A year is the quickest I have seen....
Pettrix@prodigy.net

- ----------
> From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: She's In!!
> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 6:39 PM
> 
> Finally found a good resto shop that can work on my baby right away. It's
50
> miles away but that's OK.  'In for a full body-off.  'Frame and body
> restoration and paint -- soup to nuts.  'Can't wait to see her when she
comes
> out!!  Should be just in time for Spring Hershey!
> 
> Scott
> 71 442 Conv.

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:10:17 -0600
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Electrical Wiring

I have a question regarding electrical wiring. If paint or overspray gets
on electrical wiring, does it make the wires more brittle or prone to
crack?? OR does it have no effect whatsoever??


Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 04:50:34 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Electrical Wiring

In a message dated 2/5/99 11:58:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
PETTRIX@prodigy.net writes:

<< I have a question regarding electrical wiring. If paint or overspray gets
 on electrical wiring, does it make the wires more brittle or prone to
 crack?? OR does it have no effect whatsoever??
 
 
 Pettrix@prodigy.net >>

      I'd like to see some responses on this too...I remember hearing
something like this...and with spray paint that adheres to/changes rust, there
must be something in there that is corrosive to plastics I would think. Whats
the "carrier" in the paint? Thinner? I don't think that is too harmful to
plastics/wire coatings is it? I try to avoid spraying anything plastic if
possible, unless it's interior pieces, which tend to be brittle already
anyways.  
                                                                              
Dorian

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 04:53:08 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: P/S Leak (Was: Sid "Groundhog" Viscious + SOM)

In a message dated 2/5/99 11:47:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, KS7RACING@AOL.COM
writes:

<< One way to check for a leak would be to have an assistant crank the wheel
hard
 to one side and watch the hoses, this is when the pressure is greatest in the
 system.  I've also heard of pumps leaking between the pump and the reservoir,
 there's an O-ring that shrinks and lets fluid leak out. >>

       I always assumed/heard that when the pump started squealing from
cranking the wheel against the "locks", it was bad, but that is the reason
why, eh? Best practice to not hold the wheel against the "locks" then? I never
have..I hate the sound : )  Dorian

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 07:11:31 EST
From: RmeCbtEngr@aol.com
Subject: Re: cat?

probally means your converter is burning out , or clogging up 

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:53:17 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: HURST OLDS

Mark
I can paint YENKO on it if that's what trips your trigger. Then will you
trade it for your 442? ha ha. 

Omega man
'74 Omega S 455

===

At 05:00 PM 2/5/99 mark sopp wrote:
>the only way i would consider a 70 camaro over a 442 would be if it had
>YENKO painted on the car 
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 08:00:23 -0500
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Olds 425/455 V8 in a AMC?

I can also attest to the power of the amc 360. I had a 79 Wagoneer with the
360 4bbl, th400 that I rebuilt with a full comp shift kit and 3.73s (Man
that thing was hard on quadratracks. 3 of 'em). That thing was a monster.
Still have everything but the rusted jeep body. Gonna mount something else
on that frame.

Omega Man
'74 Omega S 455





At 06:32 PM 2/5/99 EST, you wrote:
>i have a jeep with a 360 amc v8.  it has edelbrock intake, cam, lifters, and
>carb on it and it'll outrun most of your olds'.  it only has a 3spd stick,
>3.92 rear, and 33 bfg.  when those back barrels kick in you can really feal
>it.  
>
>mikeytvb@aol.com
>70 442 hc
>btw: it's a 78 cj-5
>
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 08:14:12 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmail@webtv.net (mark sopp)
Subject: Re: P/S Leak (Was: Sid "Groundhog" Viscious + SOM)

i noticed today some power steering fluid on thesteering box and hoses
on my 70 442it was not redone when i did car in 94.this is driven very
little.i intend to repair this myself.can someone give me an outline to
follow and any info that the service manual might miss. thanx

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:21:46 -0500
From: "Jim & Sharon Brady" <bradyiii@shore.intercom.net>
Subject: Re: Got the 455 Performer

Igor,
    Please, call me Jim.  I replaced my stock cast iron intake and stock
cam.  I also had to replace an exhaust valve and am in the process of
getting a new drivers side exhaust manifold to get rid of the exhaust leaks.
I am not running headers.  2 1/4 dual exhaust, exhaust manifolds with turbo
mufflers.  Since this car is a cruiser my rear gears are 2.73.  I am more
concerned with passing power and higher speeds.  The performance so far
seems fine but I only have about 80 miles on the rebuild so I won't know
enough until the engine is broken in and I seal up the exhaust.  I replaced
the timing chain, cam, intake, oil pump and one exhaust valve.  After
setting the timing and adjusting the carb it runs great.

Jim Brady
1973 Olds Delta88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/JimDelta.html
bradyiii@shore.intercom.net
>
>>Igor,
>>    I just did this a week ago so I will tell you what I did.  By the way
I
>>installed the Edelbrock manifold and cam(214/224 @.050 and 0.474/0.496
>lift)
>>as a combo.
>
>
>James,
>
>What did you replace and how much of an improvement did it make.  Are you
>running headers, and if not, what kind of exhaust.  What about gears.
>Thanks.  Igor.
>

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:41:31 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: HURST OLDS

well maybe you could paint baldwin motion on it?
- -----Original Message-----
From: jason shreve <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: HURST OLDS


>Well I guess your out of luck no 70 Yenko's that I know of.
>
>
>>
>>the only way i would consider a 70 camaro over a 442 would be if it had
>>YENKO painted on the car 
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:47:39 -0600
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: collectibles

well I finally got the peachstate 69 crimson 442- w-30 it is nice but the
fenderwells are black and it has stripes on the deck lid but oh well also
picked up the amt hurst olds model at the same swap meet there was only one
olds gut there but did see several j-2 tripowers and a couple of dual quad
setups managed to find a 69 8-track player that wasnt too badly broken it
was cheap  well that is the swap report from here now back to your regularly
scheduled programming......KK

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 08:39:59 -0600
From: Joe Gutierrez <joe_gut@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Bob Anderson's rides

I see a few folks on the list have seen Bob Anderson's $2400 72 h/o -
that's one rough car.  While visiting with Bob at his place, he told me
that he has 40 or so completed Olds in his garage at home.

Did anyone notice that the 72 H/O poster (w/Linda Vaughn) in the recent
issue of Muscle Car magazine says the owner is Bob Anderson?  It looks
like the picture was taken on the Campbell Causeway in Tampa, so maybe
it is the same Bob's car?

Can anyone confirm that this is the same Bob Anderson?

Joe Gutierrez
joe_gut@ix.netcom.com
71 442 conv't
72 H/O ht

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:47:11 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: She's In!!

Well, up front they're telling me 7 weeks, but we'll see what happens...
Scott 
71 442

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:49:43 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Special Plates

You guys have been real creative with other such requests for suggestions.
Let's try this...  In Massachusetts, I can get a 6-character plate, but it
must begin with 2 letters, then any combo of 4 other characters.  What would
be good for a 71 442 convertible (Viking Blue)?
Scott
71 442 Conv

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:56:18 -0500
From: "Jim & Sharon Brady" <bradyiii@shore.intercom.net>
Subject: Re: Electric Choke

John,
    Wow, here is the kicker:  I got the choke off of a spare Q-jet that I
got at a swap meet.  I was told the carb came from a mid 70's Cadillac.  I
can get you the carb # if you think it will help.  By the way, I live on the
other side of the bay in Md.  Can't believe there is enough room for all
your cars west of the Chesapeake!

Jim Brady
1973 Olds Delta88 Royale Convertible
http://members.tripod.com/~SuperOlds/JimDelta.html
bradyiii@shore.intercom.net
>"James E. Brady III" <James.E.Brady.1@gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
><SNIP>
>I had the hot air choke too and had to go with an electric choke.
>That worked out great since I wanted to do it anyway.  I utilized the
>same housing just swapped in the electric choke cover and plug the hot
>air hole.
>
>**********
>James,
>     Which electric choke cover did you use? I assume it was for a
>later GM application ...which did one?
>
>Thanks
>
>==
>"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2"
>
>John Pajak
>Lexington Park, Maryland
>
>Check out our cars, trucks and a whole lot more at
>http://members.tripod.com/~JSPajak
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:05:13 -0500 (EST)
From: throckmail@webtv.net (mark sopp)
Subject: Re: She's In!!

scott,my car took 560 hours in the shop and another 2 weeks to get
everything right.remember,things that sound too good to be true,usually
are.i would get a schedule and scope of work from the shop.i did major
body work,so it took longer.dont let this shop rip this car apart and
tell you it is going to cost twice as much and take a lot longer. next
thing you know they will be offering to buy the car from you.i am not
trying to discourage you,just passing on the knowledge of my
expreience.good luck

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:16:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Dr-Olds@webtv.net (Kevin D. Wood)
Subject: Sport Steering Wheels.

I have a question regarding sport steering
wheels.  I have 2 now, but I'm not sure either
is actually from a Cutlass/442 of my year.
Question:  Where there several different color
steering wheels available in 1972?  I have one
black one- which looks to me like it might be
just a little smaller that ones I've seen, and I 
also have a Saddle colored one- same size as
the black one.  I have seen a 442 with saddle interior that had a saddle
base with a black
wheel- and button I think-.  Just wondering
what is correct.  
I currently have the saddle wheel in the car
to match my interior.   I bought both wheels
at swap meets and don't know the origin.

Thanks...
Kevin
Dr-Olds@webtv.net

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:36:50 -0500
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Techie Car stuff

Mornin' List,

I emailed the link below privately to another list member.  Then I
thought others might use it.  It's in four parts.  The link below is
part three.  Each part is quite long.  The link below talks mostly about
knocking, preignition, the effect of humidity and water injection and
much more.  It's pretty heady stuff and gave me a headache at 1:30 AM.
Of course, I can't vouch for the accuracy of it, but it's interesting
stuff, nonetheless.

http://www.landfield.com/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part3/index.html

"Keep it simple.  Abacus makers aren't worried about Y2K."
- --
Thomas P. Smith
1971 Cutlass S 350
smithtp@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:53:37 -0600
From: "Greg" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Distributor Info: (was: Re: need distributor info)

Igor, You already have an HEI, so I wouldn't waste the money on a mallory.
I would either install an MSD ignition module or an MSD-6A or 6AL.  The AL
model has the rev-limiter which is a very nice option.

The MSD module allows full voltage spark at high rpms, where it is said the
stock one runs out of juice around 4500rpms.  It's about $65 and fits inside
the distributor for a stock look.

The MSD-6A or 6AL is a big red box that you mount in the car.  i put mine up
on top of the driver side fender, facing the engine.  It not only gives a
hotter spark, but gives multiple sparks at lower rpms to eliminite misfires.
(MSD=multiple spark discharge).  The biggest noticement is in starting and
low rpm operation where my engine ran a lot better.  The MSD also is the
"brains" for the distributor and you pull all the module and stuff out of
the HEI and just hook up two wires to the magnetic pickup.

Hope that helps.

- -greg


>Okay, this is what I have:
>
>HEI (from 307), Morso curve kit (weights & springs) Right now it has one
>heavy and one medium spring.
>Accel SuperCoil and Accel wires.  The motor is a fresh 455 .030 over, 9.6
>CR.  The cam is Speed Pro: 204/214@.050 duration, .448/.472 lift.  The
>timing is set at 16 deg. BTDC @1100 RPM.  The fuel I use is Supreme and it
>has 3.23s.  What should I do to upgrade my ignition and what will IT do.
>What does a MSD box do and how.  I heard about rev. limiters in those
>things.  4600 RPM sounds good for me.  Thanks.  Igor.
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:03:08 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Sport Steering Wheels.

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Hi Kevin,
When you say smaller, are you describng the neck where it attaches to
the column? If so I bet it's from a 68 or earlier as the larger neck is
for 69 & later cars with the mandated locking column.

Anybody got one cheap for my blue 68?

Jeff Carter
blue442@webtv.net


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I have a question regarding sport steering
wheels.  I have 2 now, but I'm not sure either
is actually from a Cutlass/442 of my year.
Question:  Where there several different color
steering wheels available in 1972?  I have one
black one- which looks to me like it might be
just a little smaller that ones I've seen, and I 
also have a Saddle colored one- same size as
the black one.  I have seen a 442 with saddle interior that had a saddle
base with a black
wheel- and button I think-.  Just wondering
what is correct.  
I currently have the saddle wheel in the car
to match my interior.   I bought both wheels
at swap meets and don't know the origin.

Thanks...
Kevin
Dr-Olds@webtv.net


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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:05:43 -0600
From: "Greg" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Intake Manifold Install: Fel-pro

I'd just like to add that I've used Fel-pro's steel tub gasket kit several
times with stock and Performer intakes and never had a leak.  They include
the gasket sealers in the kit.  They use blue bushy tack stuff on the ports,
and silicone on the corners of the end gaskets.  The end gaskets have edges
and a pair of spikes that fit into the block to keep them from slipping.

- -greg

- -----Original Message-----
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Intake Manifold Install


><snip>  Never had a problem with the steel "tub" intake gaskets
>> and like the fact that it keeps the intake nice and dry.  Just take
>> your time making sure the intake is sitting square and torque
>> it down in sequence.
>==============================
>I hate to sound like a complete "newbie" here, but does anyone use any
>silicone on their intake? Is there anything special that should be
>done when mating an aftermarket aluminum intake to an old block?
>
>Del
>==
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>1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler
>1981 John Deer Snowmobile
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:13:59 -0600
From: "Greg" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Stock HEI & MSD 6AL

If you read my previous post on the subject....I highly recommend it.   Also
go with a high voltage coil, either MSD or Summit Racing.

- -greg
- -----Original Message-----
From: Reed, Stephen <sreed@chatsworth.com>
To: 'Olds' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 10:54 AM
Subject: Stock HEI & MSD 6AL


>I'm thinking about using my stock HEI unit with an MSD 6AL unit (Mostly for
>rev limiter).  Has anyone done this.  What I want to know is what's the
>point of using a brand new distributor (Besides, worn bushings, springs....
>ALL stuff I'd replace when I re-curve it)??
>
>
>Steve Reed
>'70 4-4-2 'Ragtop
>Austin, TX

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 08:16:14 PST
From: "jason shreve" <jasonshreve@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sport Steering Wheels.

My 72 Supreme is a bucket console car with sable interior and sports 
wheel.  The in interior is factory.  My sport whell has black rubber 
wheel black rubber on the button, teh only thing saddle it the bottow of 
the wheel that covers the top of the column.  Hope this helps!




>I have a question regarding sport steering
>wheels.  I have 2 now, but I'm not sure either
>is actually from a Cutlass/442 of my year.
>Question:  Where there several different color
>steering wheels available in 1972?  I have one
>black one- which looks to me like it might be
>just a little smaller that ones I've seen, and I 
>also have a Saddle colored one- same size as
>the black one.  I have seen a 442 with saddle interior that had a 
saddle
>base with a black
>wheel- and button I think-.  Just wondering
>what is correct.  
>I currently have the saddle wheel in the car
>to match my interior.   I bought both wheels
>at swap meets and don't know the origin.
>
>Thanks...
>Kevin
>Dr-Olds@webtv.net
>


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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:16:31 -0400
From: rebel1@raex.com
Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#62109442: CLEAN 87 442 LOADED 
LOW MILES  L@@K L@@K!!!!

I saw this on eBay - thought somebody might be interesested - 54K on the clock 
blue/silver combo...
Todd Daenzer
All the toys put away for the winter...

Title of item:	CLEAN 87 442 LOADED LOW MILES  L@@K L@@K!!!!
Seller:	wsprosty@aol.com
Starts:	01/30/99 19:21:27 PST 
Ends:	02/06/99 19:21:27 PST 
Price:	Currently $2900.00
To bid the item, go to:	
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=62109442


Item Description:		
	VERY CLEAN LOW MILEAGE 1987 OLDSMOBILE 442. 307 4 BBL ENGINE,  54,000 
MILES. POWER WINDOWS, POWER SEAT, TILT, AIR, CRUISE, AM/FM CASSETTE WITH 
EQUALIZER,T-TOPS WITH THE ORIGINAL GM COVERS, PAINT GREAT, MIDNIGHT BLUE AND 
SILVER, NO RUST, NEVER HIT OR WRECKED, INTERIOR MINT, BLUE INTERIOR, REAR 
DEFOG,  NO LIGHTING RODS. RUNS GREAT.  THIS IS A NICE CAR!!!   HAPPY BIDDING

	Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at 
http://www.ebay.com

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:07:41 EST
From: OLDS44272@aol.com
Subject: Re: Special Plates

In a message dated 2/6/99 9:51:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, CPEARLPARK@aol.com
writes:

<< You guys have been real creative with other such requests for suggestions.
 Let's try this...  In Massachusetts, I can get a 6-character plate, but it
 must begin with 2 letters, then any combo of 4 other characters.  What would
 be good for a 71 442 convertible (Viking Blue)?
 Scott
 71 442 Conv >>
   

          How about 71 Dtop     for Drop top?   just a thought.......SCOTT

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:12:34 -0500
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: parts for sale

sold, sorry

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Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: parts for sale


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>
>
>>For sale:
>>
>>2~ manual steering boxes for 66-72 Cutlass. With pitman arms. One needs
>>rebuild (simple) - $50, the other is good to go - $75. The Pitman Arms are
>>not available anywhere and are worth the price by themselves.
>>
>>Holley 3310 carb freshly rebuilt - $120
>>
>>Lunati Bracketmaster cam, 224/234 @ .050, .496/.520 lift. WITH LIFTERS -
>$60
>>
>>Set of 4 SSII wheels sandblasted and painted with all hardware/trim.
>Mounted
>>on wheels are 2~ 235/60R15 and 2~ 255/60R15 Dayton Daytona GT raised white
>>letter tires with less than 3000 miles on them. All for $280. (tires alone
>>cost me $380).
>>
>>2 sets of factory steel valve covers with raised O-L-D-S-M-O-B-I-L-E on
>>them. $30 per set.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:14:24 -0500
From: Jeff Mullenix <muxx@exis.net>
Subject: 15" 80's Olds chrome rim

If anyone can be of help, I am looking for 1 - 15 inch chrome rim for my 85
442.  The one I have was bent and cracked.  Need a nice one.  Please Email
me personally for price.  New ones are to expensive. 

Thanks
Jeff

85 442
70 Cutlass Conv. 4spd

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:29:11 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Special Plates

Hi Scott,
   How about "FOUR42" or "FORE42" ?  Okay, stop laughing :-)
Gene

At 09:49 AM 2/6/99 EST, you wrote:
>You guys have been real creative with other such requests for suggestions.
>Let's try this...  In Massachusetts, I can get a 6-character plate, but it
>must begin with 2 letters, then any combo of 4 other characters.  What would
>be good for a 71 442 convertible (Viking Blue)?
>Scott
>71 442 Conv
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:30:36 -0600
From: "Greg" <zimmermangm@email.msn.com>
Subject: source for best conv. top boot

I need a new top boot (in pearl) for my '71 cutlass convertible.  Has anyone
ordered one from Year one, Brothers, Fusick, etc?  How do the qualities
differ?  Are they all made by the same people?  yadda yadda yadda...

Any info will be appreciated.

- -greg z

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:04:35 -0600
From: "Shane" <sgibreal@nctc.net>
Subject: Car from he!!

When I bought my '67 C/S, I had a friend and his girlfriend drive it home on
the interstate, about a 3 hour trip, I followed in my van. When we got home I
went around the whole car just to check it out some more and noticed that
between all four tires there were only seven lug nuts left on the car, (and
yes we made sure they were tight before we left) some had vibrated off the
studs and others the studs had completely broken off. So I asked my friend how
bad it was shaking on the drive home, "Drove great, didn't notice any shaking,
went straight down the road." Remember this!
Later I trailered the car to K.C. to get it back halved. Couple days later my
chassis guy calls and said my frame was rusted completely through and all the
way around behind the drivers side front wheel. Easy fix since he was putting
a new 2x3 frame in any way.
I still can't believe the car actually made it all the way home without flying
apart when I first bought it.
The guy that drove my car home had just graduated from a tech school with an
auto body degree so I thought I would take him with me to physically check out
the car to make sure it was worth the whopping $500.00 asking price. Well
obviously he didn't have a clue as to what he was doing or looking for because
not only was the frame rusted through but I later learned that both quarters
had been replaced by just welding new panels over the rusted ones, twice, yes
three full layers of rear quarter panels, and about 10 pounds of bondo. It
actually looked pretty good from the outside. Me or my body man could not
believe that someone would do repairs like that. Not only that but the wheel
openings were off 1 1/2" from one side to the other.
Anyway 9 months and several thousand dollars later I had a nice car with new
J.C. Whitney quarters (junk) in primer but no paint. My car and particularly
those rear quarter panels just about put my body man in the loony bin. He did
get a hernia pushing my car in and out of his shop (a 3000 lb. car with a
spool and 16.5" wide meats doesn't want to move real easy). After all that, he
pretty much gave up and the car is still in primer. I've got everything ready,
engine tranny, electronics, etc. etc., just have to get it all put in and it
should be ready to race in a couple of months.
Just to get this out of the way. The reason I didn't check out the car myself
is because 14 1/2 yrs. ago I broke my neck playing high school football and
have been in a wheelchair since. Makes it a little tough to crawl in the trunk
and under the car.
Back to my buddy and his girlfriend that drove the car home for me. I think I
figured out why he didn't feel the car vibrating. For much of the trip home I
couldn't see his girlfriends head. Hmmmmm. You figure it out?!?!

Tired,
Shane

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:05:59 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Rochester Carbs

hey i didnt know if the rest you knew this, but apparently auto zone carries
rebuilt rochesters (stock) w/no core charge for $177.00 each. i think that
souns liek a good price , and they get a 1 yr waranty too. Si there somting
i any be missing here?
Erik

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:53:01 -0500
From: CCAC Network User cgc74 <cgc74@unix1.ccac.edu>
Subject: Re: Olds' logo license plates

Are you talking about the ones w/ the eighties style rocket logo and
Oldsmobile script?  I got one like that last summer for $5.  They were
available in black with gold rocket and script or white with red rocket
and script.  It was at a place called the Parts a Rama it comes around
once a year to the Fairgrounds in Butler Pennsylvania.  I'm sure there
is something similar in other parts of the country. 
- -Chris C 

Shane wrote:
> 
> Hey everybody,
> I found a set of Olds logo license plates for sale on ebay. I have bid
> up to $22.00 and am still out bid.
> My questions; How much are these worth, are they still made and if so
> where can I get a set?
> I want to put them on my drag '67 Cutlass.
> 
> Thanks,
> Shane

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:06:51 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds' logo license plates

In a message dated 2/5/99 4:01:47 PM Central Standard Time, sgibreal@nctc.net
writes:

<< Hey everybody,
 I found a set of Olds logo license plates for sale on ebay. I have bid
 up to $22.00 and am still out bid.
 My questions; How much are these worth, are they still made and if so
 where can I get a set?
 I want to put them on my drag '67 Cutlass.
  >>


I bought a set from ebay for $5...so hold out and try another day!!!!!. I also
recieved a "free" set that have Buick Grand National on them. Yuck!( But
better than 5.0)

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:05:54 -0600
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Special Plates

How about the obvious, like BLU442?  About the only good one I
can think of with all those restrictions.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/


>You guys have been real creative with other such requests for suggestions.
>Let's try this...  In Massachusetts, I can get a 6-character plate, but it
>must begin with 2 letters, then any combo of 4 other characters.  What
would
>be good for a 71 442 convertible (Viking Blue)?
>Scott
>71 442 Conv

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:26:56 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Need_H=EBlp_from_a_ford_owner?=

Sorry, to be non-Olds here, but does anyone on this list own a 67 Mustang or
Falcon with an FE bug block?  If so, could you please email me.  Thanks!

Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
84 Calais ($200!)
costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:31:09 EST
From: GT5726@aol.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re: Need_H=EBlp_from_a_ford_owner?=

In a message dated 2/6/99 1:26:29 PM Central Standard Time,
costanzo@netcarrier.com writes:

<< 
 Sorry, to be non-Olds here, but does anyone on this list own a 67 Mustang or
 Falcon with an FE bug block?  If so, could you please email me.  Thanks!
 
 Ray Costanzo
 87 409 Cutlass (hibernating)
 84 Calais ($200!)
 costanzo@netcarrier.com
 http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo >>


I don't own one, but I am married to a Mustang gold card judge and I can ask
her any questions that you might have. 

Collyn Eastham
65 442
65 Cutlass

And the others are~ALL~ Fords...64 1/2 , 65, 66, and a 69 GT-500KR

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:00:01 +0100
From: hezzo <442@swipnet.se>
Subject: Re: Special Plates

Why not check out  these custom plates for ideas!
(fakes of course).

 http://hem2.passagen.se/hezzo/oldsr.html
 http://hem2.passagen.se/hezzo/oldsrr.html

hezzo
goteborg
sweden
70" 442 conv

http://hem2.passagen.se/hezzo/Index.htm


CPEARLPARK@aol.com skrev:

> You guys have been real creative with other such requests for suggestions.
> Let's try this...  In Massachusetts, I can get a 6-character plate, but it
> must begin with 2 letters, then any combo of 4 other characters.  What would
> be good for a 71 442 convertible (Viking Blue)?
> Scott
> 71 442 Conv

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:32:14 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Inter State Emission testing?

ALL:
Which State has on the license plates, "LIVE FREE OR DIE", must not be
Arizona.
Lou

- ----------
> From: barbw@uswest.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Inter State Emission testing?
> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 8:29 PM
> Lou:
> 
> The equipment that measures the emissions and snaps the picture of the
license
> plate is strategically positioned just a very few feet away from the
point where
> traffic has only one lane to either enter or exit the freeway and thus
each car
> must pass in very close proximity to the equipment in single file and far
enough
> away from the other traffic already on the freeway.  There are cables
connected
> to the equipment which originate from a white van that is parked off the
right.
> You would be totally amazed at how many Phoenix residents dont know about
smog
> dog.  Based on my observation from watching these morons screw up traffic
when
> these vans are on the ramps, it appears they think the vans are for photo
radar
> and not emissions!  Yeah, big brother is definitely too big in Arizona.
> 
> Barb

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:42:17 -0500
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: Inter State Emission testing?

New Hampshire.  Also the only state that does not recognize MLK day as a
holiday.

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Lou Biggs
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 3:32 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Inter State Emission testing?


ALL:
Which State has on the license plates, "LIVE FREE OR DIE", must not be
Arizona.
Lou

- ----------
> From: barbw@uswest.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Inter State Emission testing?
> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 8:29 PM
> Lou:
>
> The equipment that measures the emissions and snaps the picture of the
license
> plate is strategically positioned just a very few feet away from the
point where
> traffic has only one lane to either enter or exit the freeway and thus
each car
> must pass in very close proximity to the equipment in single file and far
enough
> away from the other traffic already on the freeway.  There are cables
connected
> to the equipment which originate from a white van that is parked off the
right.
> You would be totally amazed at how many Phoenix residents dont know about
smog
> dog.  Based on my observation from watching these morons screw up traffic
when
> these vans are on the ramps, it appears they think the vans are for photo
radar
> and not emissions!  Yeah, big brother is definitely too big in Arizona.
>
> Barb

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:47:50 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Inter State Emission testing?

Sorry Peter:
Changed my mind, not moving to Gawga now, looks like it's N.H.
Lou
- ----------
> From: Master Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Inter State Emission testing?
> Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 2:42 PM
> 
> New Hampshire.  Also the only state that does not recognize MLK day as a
> holiday.

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:39:06 EST
From: DYeager535@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

In a message dated 2/6/99 10:07:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
ainode@frontiernet.net writes:

<< hey i didnt know if the rest you knew this, but apparently auto zone
carries
 rebuilt rochesters (stock) w/no core charge for $177.00 each. i think that
 souns liek a good price , and they get a 1 yr waranty too. Si there somting
 i any be missing here?
 Erik >>

        I guess it depends on if thats a CCC carb or not. You can get a Q-jet
out of a wrecking yard for $25, a rebuild kit for less than $20, and have it
rebushed for less than $50, or do it yourself for about $10. As little work as
it takes to rebuild them, $177 sounds high to me...then again the Edelbrock
ones are +/- $450. Dorian

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:55:51 -0500
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Olds' logo license plates

Hi Collyn,
    If you want to get rid of those Buick GN plates, my uncle might want
them because he just bought an '87 GN. Let me know.
Thanks,
Gene


>
>I bought a set from ebay for $5...so hold out and try another day!!!!!. I also
>recieved a "free" set that have Buick Grand National on them. Yuck!( But
>better than 5.0)
>
>Collyn Eastham
>65 442
>65 Cutlass
>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:47:36 PST
From: "Mike Sealey" <rocket98for69@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Olds 425/455 V8 in a AMC?

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:59:39 -0600 (CST), "Thomas Martin" 
<Thomas_Martin-WLTM07@css.mot.com> writes:


>Got a friend with a 1990 AMC/Jeep Grand Wagoneer with a poor excuse for 
a
>5.8L V8 called a 360.  AMC not ChryCo 360.  He wants more power, and 
finding
>a 401 for a reasonable cost has proven useless, even here near Kenosha!  
So,
>if all else fails drop in a 7.5L Olds Rocket Motor!!  It would move the
>beast of a 4X4 much better and more efficient than a 360 or 401, and 
have
>more than enough power to tow through the Rockies.  
>
>Has anyone any knowledge or advice on doing this swap on a 4X4?  The 
trans
>is a 727 with AMC pattern.  I would like to see a THM350 or prefer a 
THM400
>in its place.

Seems to me some of the later pre-AMC (Kaiser) Wagoneers used a Buick 
350 with some form of TH behind it.  These woulda been '69 to about 
'71-'72.  Can anyone confirm or correct me on this?

Surprised y'all are so unhappy with the existing 360; I've had AMCs with 
360s and have been most happy.  (Happier, of course, with 401s, but like 
you said try and find one today.)  But I agree with the beauty of an 
Olds 455 in one.  Looking forward to hearing more.

BTW Wagoneers with 327 V8s use AMC (*not* Ch*vy) 327s and I believe the 
automatics were Borg-Warner units.

Mike Sealey
'69 Ninety Eight Holiday Sedan

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:24:17 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

In a message dated 99-02-06 13:07:53 EST, you write:

<< hey i didnt know if the rest you knew this, but apparently auto zone
carries
 rebuilt rochesters (stock) w/no core charge for $177.00 each >>

Q-jets?
Dual-Jets?
Vara-Jets?  (shudder)

Is $177 a flat rate, or is it a statement in the form "as low as $177.00", and
will they provide you with a rebuild to your specs, or only "what is in their
computer." ?

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:39:37 EST
From: KarlAune@aol.com
Subject: Re: Special Plates

In a message dated 99-02-06 09:51:25 EST, you write:

<< I can get a 6-character plate, but it must begin with 2 letters, then any
combo of 4 other characters.  What would be good for a 71 442 convertible
(Viking Blue)? >>

So, you have already thought of VBL442, and similar...

How about;

ICUNRV    - nah, too obscure

NTWRTY   - nope, requires imagination

TQMSTR   -  assumes too much about others intelligence.

 -  MOBILE   - where (-) is electrical tape. Sometimes blunt is best.

TORQUE -  again, makes assumptions, but might be within grasp of most

VIK BLU -  because it is.

DRPTOP - ditto.

And if you were wondering, yah, there ~is~ something missing from my
suggestions.

Karl assumes most folk can read "4 4 2" on the emblems and do not need to
check the licence plate to verify authenticity.

SOM

&KA

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:40:48 EST
From: DKlauber@aol.com
Subject: Re: HURST/OLDS PRICES

March old car trader has a 69 with 40k original miles for $24,500.  Dealer
selling is Randy Blythe's 1-800-297-4298.  I know nothing else about the car
or the dealer.  
David 70 442 W-30 Conv

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:49:35 EST
From: CPEARLPARK@aol.com
Subject: Re: Special Plates

Hey Hezzo, thanks for the ideas.  'Cool 70!!  Are there many Olds's in Sweden?
I especially like the elevator version of "Highway Star" playing in the
background!
Scott
71 442 conv.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:52:33 -0600
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

K:
Been there, done...., for 177.00 they will supply you with a supposed
rebuilt Q jet, close to OEM for your car, not to your spec, but supposed to
be specs. equivalent to the carb your car came with, they are built on an
assembly line, person "A" puts in jets, person "B" puts in metering rods,
person "C" whatever, these people don't know what the parts do,  they just
put them in, and so on and so on!  I have purchased several from them,  but
get a good carb book and reset ALL the setting like they are supposed to
be, they seem to work good after that. Usually all the parts are good, 
just need resetting. Float levels are always way off. Never had one work
out of the box, but after tweaking they are not bad at all. Very clean
though!!!
Lou

- ----------
> From: KarlAune@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs
>
> Is $177 a flat rate, or is it a statement in the form "as low as
$177.00", and
> will they provide you with a rebuild to your specs, or only "what is in
their
> computer." ?
> 
> SOM
> 
> &KA

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:23:36 PST
From: "Ryan D" <riviera72sss@hotmail.com>
Subject: My First 455 :  )

Hey List,

    I just got my First olds 455,shortblock ,it was magnaflux,hot tanked 
,the hol'9,bord .30 over.Is there anyway i can run the #er's
  To find out what year it is?i do know it's a F0 Block,is that good?

Thanks for your Time.




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            /  |
           /   |
          /     ------
         /            |
        /             |
       /        ------    DELTA 88
Ryan D Beck
           Riviera72sss@hotmail.com


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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:01:34 -0600
From: "Charles A. Dempsey" <cdemps@lsumc.edu>
Subject: WANTED: '71 VC left disc brake spindle and rotor.

Hi list,

I got the VC home and apart. The spindle and rotor are chewed up real
good. I need some replacement parts.

This is a '71 "A" body. I have verified that big car parts won't fit
(pity, I've got a '71 disc brake Caprice sitting in the shop. Anybody
need a big car disc setup?). The parts guys in town say the  part is
found on;

Buick Special, 67-72. Apollo, 73-74.
Chevrolet Camaro, 67-69. Chevelle, 67-72. Monte Carlo, 70-72. Nova 68-74
Pontiac Firebird, 67-69. Grand Prix '69-72. LeMans 72. Tempest
'67-71. 	       Ventura '71-'74.
GMC Sprint '71-'72
Olds F-85 '67-72. Omega '73-74.

I don't know what year Vista Cruiser (other than '71) these parts were
used on. My '71 shop manual. says that front discs were standard on the
VC in '71 and optional on other A bodies.

If you've got one of these (or think you might) please e-mail. If you
post to the list please cc:cdemps@lsumc.edu because I'm subscribed in
digest mode, but I'd like to keep up with this.

Also, the disc brake is mounted off of an adapter on this year VC. I
ahve considered the possibility that the drum and disc spindles might be
the same except for the adapter, and it might be possible to install a
drum brake spindle using my (still good bolt on) adapter. If you have
more data on this please e-mail. The spindles look similar in the shop
manual drawings.

Thanks,
Charles

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:52:38 -0600
From: C K <bloom9@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Langrage

Igor wrote:
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:52:26 -0700
From: "Igor T. '81 DRB 455" <igor455@home.com>
Subject: Re: Language.

Sorry.  I usually never post language on the list (maybe twice in 2
yrs.),
it is just that the dipstick really got me mad because it is a piece of
junk.  There is nothing worst then finding metal floaters in the oil of a
brand new engine.  No excuse.  I will try to be 'correct' from now on.
Using nice words, though, is not nearly as descriptive of ones feeling as
those...ughh...other words.  Igor.

Excellent Igor!

Fred Kemp
bloom9@juno.com
Tulsa, OK area
'67 442, Cutlass S and Cutlass

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:17:41 -0500
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

well i asked specifically for a carb for my delta, and it uses a q jet. its
supposedly a rebuilt to stock config.
i was jsut checking this, becasue my carb is such a pain (when you floor it,
it bogs and stalls, does not shift down to a lower gear). the second
butterfly seems to be open alot more often than it sohlud, like always.
maybe somone could instad give me some tips on what maybe it could
be......... beasue i cant afford a rebuild ($250+). so thats why i jumped on
that $177 dollar thing.
Erik
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To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs


>In a message dated 99-02-06 13:07:53 EST, you write:
>
><< hey i didnt know if the rest you knew this, but apparently auto zone
>carries
> rebuilt rochesters (stock) w/no core charge for $177.00 each >>
>
>Q-jets?
>Dual-Jets?
>Vara-Jets?  (shudder)
>
>Is $177 a flat rate, or is it a statement in the form "as low as $177.00",
and
>will they provide you with a rebuild to your specs, or only "what is in
their
>computer." ?
>
>SOM
>
>&KA
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:40:30 -0600 (CST)
From: blue442@webtv.net
Subject: Re: 455 Engine (fwd)

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Congrats Ryan, I think that's as good as it gets.  Here's one of Jedi
Padavano's old posts on the issue.  Kinda like him using the force for
the good of Oldskind even though he's not screwing off at the office.

Jeff Carter
blue442@webtv.net


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...I installed an engine in it when I was in high school, it is supposedly
a 455.  I pulled a F5 off of the rear of the engine and a 3 and a 338 by
the distrobuter
hole.  Any info on this?  I am looking for year and size and if this is
what I want.  Thanks.
                        Ron.
_______

Ron,

I assume the "F5" came from the flywheel face of the engine.  That sounds
like a later model 455 block, say 1973-75.  To absolutely ID the block as a
455, look at the shelf just behind the water pump, where the oil fill tube
is located.  You should find the cast numbers "396021" on the passenger
side and a larger letter "F" or "Fa" on the driver's side.  To ID the year,
find the VIN derivative number, which is located on a pad just below the
cylinder head on the front left side of the engine (below the number one
spark plug location).  This number should take the form of "35Mxxxxxx"
where:

3 = Oldsmobile division
5 = year of manufacture (3 = 1973, 4 = 74, 5 = 75, 6 = 76)
M = location of manufacture (M = Lansing, X = Kansas City, etc)
xxxxxx = last six digits of VIN of car that motor originally came in

Are the heads on the motor those that it originally came with?  If so, you
will likely find the raised letter J on the heads by the number one and
number eight spark plugs.  These are the 1973-76 smog heads.

Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:00:44 EST
From: RARE73OLDS@aol.com
Subject: Check these Items out for 73s for sale on the OCC 73-77site

Record 73
Name: James canning
Website: 
Referred by: Just Surfed On In
From: Boston
Time: 1999-02-06 22:10:57
Comments: I am selling the following brand new GM 73 supreme items; -grills
100$ a side,I have a left and a right -left lower directional housing 100$.
- -left lower diretional housing for a "S",442 100$ -lower center piece that
goes between grills 100$ -tail light lens 40$ -metal decal for an AC heater
control panel 35$ -Door wheatherstipping;It takes 2 pieces to do 1 door,a door
piece and a window piece.I have 2 door pieces 170$ apiece and 2 window pieces
145$ apiece enough to do 1 whole car.All for 550$ -front licence plate bracket
50$ The following are used 73 parts in like new condition; -"S" Hood with the
2 metal grates on either side 250$ -Trunk lid 150$ -Auto console with shifter
200$ -Rally gauge,temp,oil,fuel,150$ -Tan swivel buckets 100$ apiece  
 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/CUTLASCOUP/index.html">CUTLASCOUP's Home Page
</A> go to that page and click on view guestbook. Its the first person #73 

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:31:12 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak <jspajak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Electric Choke

Jim & Sharon Brady <bradyiii@shore.intercom.net> wrote:
John,
     Wow, here is the kicker:  I got the choke off of a spare Q-jet
that I got at a swap meet.  I was told the carb came from a mid 70's
Cadillac.  I can get you the carb # if you think it will help.  By the
way, I live on the other side of the bay in Md.  Can't believe there
is enough room for all your cars west of the Chesapeake!

**********
Thanks Jim. I also found out that a lot of 231 V6 2bbl applications
also use the electric choke. BTW there's plenty of room here for more
cars, although I guess I have enough right now!

 

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:26:45 -0600
From: "Norm Muelleman" <norm806@dialnet.net>
Subject: Greetings, and questions..

Hi all..
I'm a member of the F-Body-Classic list..have been on there for over two
years now...
Was the proud owner of a 68 Firebird Convertible, and am currently restoring
a 79 T/A.

I just bought a 77 T/A for a motor donor. The engine is a 403 Olds. I am not
familiar with Olds engines at all. The engine has 4A heads on it, and
appears stock. I don't have the numbers handy for the engine, but I can get
them later tonight. The engine has the stock q-jet carb on it, along with
stock iron manifold. Here are my questions..

1. What is the hp rating of this engine?
2. Compression ratio?
3. What type of heads can I put on to up the compression ratio. This will be
a daily driver, but I want a little oompf. Someone mentioned 7A and 5A
heads.
4. A good cam recommendation?

I don't want to dump too much money into this engine...basically some minor
add-ons..as soon as I finish this car, I'm selling it and getting another 68
Firebird.

Thanks for replies in advance!

Norm (What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?) Muelleman
ICQ: 3156478
norm806@dialnet.net

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Updated 1-28-99

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:49:16 EST
From: RmeCbtEngr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

being an Autozoner (i work there),  i can tell you that all our carbs are
rebuilt to factory specs, and are set to go right out of the box.

BUT AS FAR AS PRICES !!!!!!!!!	 The price will vary from place to place 
(hell
the store 7 miles from mine are all differant prices )  the price is set by
the local competion available and our Holley's and Edlebrocks are alot less
than $400.00
 more like  219.00-299.00  in lousiville 

 sorry just had to answer 

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:00:04 EST
From: RmeCbtEngr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rochester Carbs

check the mounting gasket, and bolts,  souynds like another car i worked on
that would not kick in passing gear, and  would almost die if the secondaries
opened up 

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:12:49 -0600
From: "James Moore" <panman638@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Special Plates

4-4-dose
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From: OLDS44272@aol.com <OLDS44272@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Special Plates


>In a message dated 2/6/99 9:51:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
CPEARLPARK@aol.com
>writes:
>
><< You guys have been real creative with other such requests for
suggestions.
> Let's try this...  In Massachusetts, I can get a 6-character plate, but it
> must begin with 2 letters, then any combo of 4 other characters.  What
would
> be good for a 71 442 convertible (Viking Blue)?
> Scott
> 71 442 Conv >>
>
>
>          How about 71 Dtop     for Drop top?   just a thought.......SCOTT
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:24:42 EST
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sport Steering Wheels.

All 70-72 sport steering wheels are black and the same size. The 1975-80?
Starfires used a very similar wheel but it was color coded and about an inch
smaller in diameter. The smaller ones also have a molded stiching around the
inside edge that the 70-72 black ones don't have.
  I have a green smaller one on my Vista Cruiser that has a green interior it
looks neat also has the green horn button on it.

Everett  OCA# 1961  1961 Starfire   1971 Vista Cruiser

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