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oldsmobile-digest       Wednesday, May 19 1999       Volume 01 : Number 1967



Re: Trunk mat question
RE:  Boring Question!
Re: Boring Question!
Rusty doors
Re: OCA Roadside Assitance Program
Re: I'm back!
Re: Trunk mat question
Re: Rusty doors
Re: Trunk mat question
Re: 1967  442 Carb. NEEDED !
20'! What??? was: EGR
1968 442 head
Re:67 442 carb needed
Re: 67 455/TH350 kickdown etc...
Non-Olds===>Microsoft??
Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??
RE: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??
Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??
Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang
Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang
Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang
Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??
Rocker Arm Shims
Re: Rocker Arm Shims
Re: Oil : Synthetic is the Best!
1964 Olds Dynamic 88 (for sale)
Re: Boring Question!
Re: Oil : Synthetic is the Best!
Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang
Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??
1998 Silhouette plastic front end vibration
Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang
Header insulation wrap
Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang
Re: Shaky Front end
aluminum vs Fe
Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang
Re: Header insulation wrap
Re: Stalwart Old 98
Re: Header insulation wrap
Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??
ICQ
Re: Oil : Synthetic is the Best!
Re: Power Window Blues
Re: Stalwart Old 98
Re: Codes, Prd #'s  etc..
Re: Digital Camera for Pix of the Cutlai-OR maybe just a better SCANNER
Re: Shaky Front end
[Fwd: ICQ]

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:32:05 -0400
From: "gjcouse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Re: Trunk mat question

Lou;

Take out the wife's Steam Iron and give the mat folded creases a light going
over with the mat setting flat on the floor. Should take those creases right
out. Let it set flat till the steam has evaporated all out of the mat. It
should remain flat then. If there is any intentional creases from the
factory that may allow the mat to hug say a step in the trunk, don't use the
iron in that area. Don't know what the interior of your trunk looks like but
that should get you a nice flat trunk mat.

If the mat seems a little small for good trunk coverage, you might try
stretching the mat material as you steam (and during air drying) iron the
mat. You might get a little extra length that was originally in the mat that
folding and shipping may have allowed to shrink a little. Good luck,
Gary....

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From: <LOUS69W30@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Trunk mat question


> In a message dated 5/18/99 3:39:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ab348@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
>
> << If it is like the repro trunk mat I bought from Fusicks it doesn't
extend
>  over that far. It is cut out in the area where the J-hook attaches so
that
>  the area under the spare is mostly just trunk floor metal, not mat.
>   >>
>
> I agree with Greg.  I just got one today from Year One.  I had to get a
68,
> the 69 is discontinued but the 68 should fit I hope.  It ends on the right
> side where the J-Hook goes and has a V-shaped notch cut out.  It was all
> folded up so I'm going to let it sit out for a few days and will put it in
> this weekend.  I think I'll let it sit out in sun first before I put it
in,
> that may help take out some of the creases. Anybody have any other ideas
on
> how to get it smooth.
>
> Lou Principe
> 69 442 W-30
>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:15:40 -0500
From: Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas.Martin@motorola.com>
Subject: RE:  Boring Question!

Bore X Bore X Stroke X .7854 X # of Cyl

OR

Bore ^ 2 X Stroke X .7854 X # of cyl
 
4.03^2*3^.7854*8=306.1344686 CID

Who won??

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:40:21 PDT
From: "Richard Nogin" <wickett66@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Boring Question!

Thanks for the info!

>

>
>Richard, the formula for engine displacement is:
>Bore X bore X stroke X .7854 X # of cyl. = cid
>Hope you bet a bunch......
>
>
>Greg Rollin
>Supercars Unlimited (Where Cutlass/4-4-2 is ALL we do!)
>Portland, Oregon  503-244-8249
>
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>http://www.supercarsunlimited.com
>
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>


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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:45:17 -0500
From: Martin Thomas-WLTM07 <Thomas.Martin@motorola.com>
Subject: Rusty doors

Looking for a set of doors for a 85 Cutlass Supreme.  Mine have appeared to
rusted beyond help, and I want to get them back into proper shape.  Anyone
have a set of rust free doors that they would be interested in selling?

I have heard the Regal door is the same, and I don't know for sure what
years interchange, anyone know?  I don't need power stuff, but if I got it I
would not complain!  

Thanks!
Thomas Martin
80 Turbo Trans AM 400 Pontiac Power!
85 Cutlass Supreme Rocket 350 CCC
91 Bonneville LE 3800 Buick Power!

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:59:02 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: OCA Roadside Assitance Program

Um......  What?

Karl ~should~ be on the list of the Rocket Road Assistance Program as 
initiated by Doug Kitchener two or more years ago.

Given time to dig, Karl can produce a year, volume, and issue # that 
specifies Karls address and tel#. (Although Karl has since moved)

How ~exactly~ does the OCA Road Assistance Program differ from the RRAP??

SOM

&KA

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:02:32 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm back!

The prominent J.P. opined variously:

(((paraphrased)))

"Who's next"

Karl's money is on Ken Snyder.

Any takers???

Anyone?

SOM

&KA

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:25:55 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Trunk mat question

Lou;
I used a hair dryer.
Lou

- ----------
> From: LOUS69W30@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Trunk mat question
> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 8:53 PM
> I agree with Greg.  I just got one today from Year One.  I had to get a
68, 
> the 69 is discontinued but the 68 should fit I hope.  It ends on the
right 
> side where the J-Hook goes and has a V-shaped notch cut out.  It was all 
> folded up so I'm going to let it sit out for a few days and will put it
in 
> this weekend.  I think I'll let it sit out in sun first before I put it
in, 
> that may help take out some of the creases. Anybody have any other ideas
on 
> how to get it smooth.
> 
> Lou Principe
> 69 442 W-30

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:31:20 -0500
From: "Mark Tupper" <mtupper@palacenet.net>
Subject: Re: Rusty doors

> I have heard the Regal door is the same, and I don't know for sure what
> years interchange, anyone know?  I don't need power stuff, but if I got it
I
> would not complain!

Tom...the Regal doors will fit. Not positive on the years, but would imagine
that if it could come from a Cutlass, it would fit from a corresponding year
Buick... You should be safe with 81-87 at least.

- -Mark Tupper     1987 442    (OCA 30666)
 mtupper@palacenet.net     http://cyberglyphs.com/442/

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:32:37 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Trunk mat question

Lou Biggs wrote:

> I used a hair dryer.

I used gravity and time.

Chris

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:33:23 EDT
From: LOUS69W30@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1967  442 Carb. NEEDED !

In a message dated 05/19/1999 10:56:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mjsiedl@megavision.com writes:

<< Just last weekend Barb, Dave V. and I went out to Wyoming and bought a 
1967 442 from the second owner of this car.  >>

Congratulations, sounds like you got yourself a real nice car.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:40:10 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: 20'! What??? was: EGR

In a message dated 99-05-18 21:39:03 EDT, you write:

<< I disconnected the vacuum hose leading to the EGR valve on my '78 350 in 
the Delta 88.  Was told by my auto shop instructor that I should not have a 
problem with leaving the timing at 20 btdc (factory for Calif. car) due to 
the olds motor not being as sensitive as other GM engines  >>

<hallucination>

20 degrees?
Geez, did the 70's kill engine tech or what!
((1971 and 1972 excluded))

Mike,

With EGR disconnected you will run leaner.  Period.
The EGR stuff is driven by venturii vacuum from your carb.
Your primary metering rods are calibrated for use with EGR.
Getting ~hot~ engine conditions now?

Karl would like to suggest switching to a pre-1973 primary rod/jet/piston 
spring combo.
Recent studies and inquiries by Karl tend to indicate that certain rods 
tended to be matched with certain jets and certain power piston springs.

(Pontiac in particular used all manner of power piston springs in its HiPo 
offerings)

Some power piston spring kits are available from Edelbrock.

Karl typically sets timing by advncing final timing until engine pings, then 
backing off (retarding) until no ping at any RPM, especially WOT.

</hallucination>

SOM   <---Silent Ocean Mist

&KA   <---  Thinks that cement is more interesting than people realize

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:42:47 -0400
From: Pete Kraft <pkraft@worldpath.net>
Subject: 1968 442 head

I am looking for a cylinder head for: 1968 442 conv. 400cid, no W-30, ps/pb, 
no ac, auto
Please reach me at:  Pete Kraft
                               65 Skyline Dr
                               Gilford, NH 03246
                               603-527-7634
                               pkraft@worldpath.net

Thanks!

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:24:50 -0500
From: "Walker" <pwalker@megavision.com>
Subject: Re:67 442 carb needed

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   Mike,

Sounds like a very nice car. Hope you get it all together soon.
I'll have to get down to the shop sometime to chat.

John

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:44:32 -0500
From: "Walker" <pwalker@megavision.com>
Subject: Re: 67 455/TH350 kickdown etc...

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 I do have the kickdown hooked up. It requires a mid 70's q-jet with the =
appropriate kickdown
hookup and the bracket for the cable. Can usually be found in junkyards =
on early 80's- late 70s GM cars.
I used a Mr. Shift NOYOYO shift kit, red stripe vacuum =
modulator(adjustable with small srewdriver)
available at Napa.You do dont need to do anything to the driveshaft, and =
so far the th350 has held up just fine.
Properly built, they will handle quite a bit of torque without any =
problems. Hope this helps. I may put=20
in a th400, but only because i got it cheap, along with the 425 that was =
bolted to it.

John

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:01:41 -0700
From: BC <beastmaster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:14:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??

*sigh* Another one?
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:19:35 -0400
From: "Lamonday, John C" <john.c.lamonday@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??

This is a HOAX.

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> Date: 5/11/99 1:37 PM
> From: Esparza, Enrique
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > > > > > > > > I don't know how true this is, but it's worth a shot.
> > > > > > > Netscape and AOL have recently merged to form the largest
> internet
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> > > Microsoft has introduced a new email tracking system as a  way to keep
> > > Internet Explorer as the most popular browser on the market.  This
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> > > is a beta test of the new software and Microsoft has generously
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> > > they give it to, you will be given an additional $3.  For every person
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> > Windows > > users because the email
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> > > Windows > > 95
> > > and 98.
> > > > > > > I know you guys hate forwards.  But I started this a
> > > month ago because I was very short on cash.  A week ago I got an email
> > > from Microsoft asking me for my address.  I gave it to them and
> > > yesterday I got a check in the mail for $800.  It really works.  I
> > wanted
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:20:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??

All virus warnings and forwarded chain mails with whatever content are 
not what the list is for. This is stated in the list rules. Please do not 
send these kind of messages. 

George

- ---------------------
'68 Cuttlass S Conv. 
- ---------------------

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> From: Susana Muratalla
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> From: Esparza, Enrique
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Esparza, Enrique; Gutierrez, Debbie; Lopez, Janet; Reed, Oceania; Ruiz,
> > Lisa
> > Subject:      FW: FW: Netscape & AOL - PLEASE FORWARD
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> > Ruiz, Lisa; Serret, Cari; Young, Karyl
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> > > > > > > > > I don't know how true this is, but it's worth a shot.
> > > > > > > Netscape and AOL have recently merged to form the largest 
internet
> > > company in the world.  In an effort to remain at pace with this giant,
> > > Microsoft has introduced a new email tracking system as a  way to keep
> > > Internet Explorer as the most popular browser on the market.  This email
> > > is a beta test of the new software and Microsoft has generously offered
> > > to compensate those who participate in the testing process.  For each
> > > person you send this email to, you will be given $5.  For every person
> > > they give it to, you will be given an additional $3.  For every person
> > > they send it to you will receive $1. Microsoft will  tally all the
> > > emails produced under your name over a two week period and then email
> > > you with more instructions.  This beta test is only for Microsoft
> > Windows > > users because the email
> > > tracking device that contacts Microsoft is embedded into the code of
> > > Windows > > 95
> > > and 98.
> > > > > > > I know you guys hate forwards.  But I started this a
> > > month ago because I was very short on cash.  A week ago I got an email
> > > from Microsoft asking me for my address.  I gave it to them and
> > > yesterday I got a check in the mail for $800.  It really works.  I
> > wanted
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:12:49 -0400
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang

>I know this isn't Olds related, however, has anyone seen one
>of those new Mustang Cobra's with 450+ HP?  I think this
>thing could blow the doors off of anything we have.
>


You mean the new Mustang Cobra can beat anything -YOU- have.  There are afew
very fast Oldsmobiles on this list..

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:22:04 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang

Ken wrote:

> You mean the new Mustang Cobra can beat anything -YOU- have.  There are afew
> very fast Oldsmobiles on this list..

Ok then what HP is your engine and what are the times from 0 to 60 and
1/4 mile?

Chris

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:31:28 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang

I just check and that was the Ford Saleen Mustang, 
not the Cobra.

This Mustang has 495 HP, 0 - 60 in 4.6 seconds and
1/4 mile at 122 mph.  Didn't give time for the 1/4
though.

This is definitely faster than my 442 and it is
even faster than a stock 1968 H/O.

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:38:52 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??

OH GOD NOT MORE BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:42:52 -0700
From: BOYD DONALD R <drboyd@srpnet.com>
Subject: Rocker Arm Shims

I've got a 455 boat engine that's about to get shimmed, seeing as how the
valve job was goofed up.  

Allegedly competent mechanic A tells me he won't do it, and wouldn't
recommend it.

Allegedly competent mechanic B says he does it all the time, no sweat.

Any facts, rumors, innuendo, wild rantings or opinions?  TIA!

Don Boyd
76 Cutlass 455

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:48:01 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Rocker Arm Shims

will work but it takes time to get it right if you have no choice well .....
if you can get it modded for adjustable rockers that is the way I would
go.....KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: BOYD DONALD R <drboyd@srpnet.com>
To: 'Olds List' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 3:42 PM
Subject: Rocker Arm Shims


> I've got a 455 boat engine that's about to get shimmed, seeing as how the
> valve job was goofed up.
>
> Allegedly competent mechanic A tells me he won't do it, and wouldn't
> recommend it.
>
> Allegedly competent mechanic B says he does it all the time, no sweat.
>
> Any facts, rumors, innuendo, wild rantings or opinions?  TIA!
>
> Don Boyd
> 76 Cutlass 455
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:47:12 -0500
From: cdemps@lsumc.edu (Dempsey, Charles)
Subject: Re: Oil : Synthetic is the Best!

"Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net> wrote:

> We did an experiment on my buddies 455 Olds.

Without considering whether synthetic oil is better than mineral oil,
there are a couple of problems with this procedure.

1. The experimental conditions are not identical, the viscosity of the
two oils is not the same, and the relief valve and oil filter are two
(of many) uncontrolled variables.

2. Remember that one data point does not constitute a trend.

Can 12 miles and three launches really cause significant oil break down?
I'd have bet long odds against it.

Charles

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:47:52 EDT
From: DOBRIEN173@aol.com
Subject: 1964 Olds Dynamic 88 (for sale)

394ci rocket,
4 door, good condition,,,driveable
all original,,88k miles
will sell for reasonable offer?
car is in atlanta , georgia,,,,,

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:51:45 EDT
From: CUTLASS442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Boring Question!

Stock Bore and stroke of a Ford 302 is  4.002 x 3.00 which equals 301.9 which 
rounds up to 302.

Bore this .030 and you now have a bore of 4.032 and a stroke of 3.00 which 
equals 306.4 and this rounds down to 306


Richard
1967 "Oldsmobuick" Cutlass

<< Ok this is not olds but I have a bet riding on it.  QA friend has a 68 
 Cougar XR7 with a 302.  He took the engine to the shop and it needed to be 
 bored .030  or 30 over which ever way you like it.  The question is what 
 would that make the cid?  I say aroung 306 to 312 max.  He says around 330.  
 What do you guys think.  Thanks!!!
 
  >>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:05:07 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Oil : Synthetic is the Best!

>Can 12 miles and three launches really cause significant oil break
>down? I'd have bet long odds against it.

...and I'm not sure I'd equate viscosity breakdown with "oil breakdown"; the 
fact that it gets thinner at high temperatures doesn't in itself mean that 
the engine will be harmed. It's metal-to-metal contact that you should worry 
about; a film of oil is what's protecting it, and that film is pretty tough.

Yes, the synthetic may retain its viscosity better at high temperatures, but 
I think there's a little more to engine protection than just that: for 
example, whether the additives break down, whether dirt is kept in 
suspension long enough to be filtered out, that sort of thing.

- -- Andy


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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:29:19 -0400
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang

>Ken wrote:
>
>> You mean the new Mustang Cobra can beat anything -YOU- have.  There are
afew
>> very fast Oldsmobiles on this list..
>
>Ok then what HP is your engine and what are the times from 0 to 60 and
>1/4 mile?
>
>Chris


Keep in mind my Olds is not even close to being the fastest car on the list,
but I would clean a Saleen's clock.  I had to break out my May 1999 Motor
Trends issue to look up the 99 Saleen s351 (yep the 490 horse one).  MT
magazine tested the Ford in question and came up with a 13.0 at 111 mph 1/4
mile(price as tested $57,500).  My 78 Gutlass was running 12.20 at 110 in
the 1/4 mile last year(price as tested $3500).   I was running a more or
less stock motor with bone stock heads, a hotter cam, holley carb,
aftermarket ignition, 3500 stall converter.  This year I have switched to
aluminum heads, flat top pistons, much hotter cam. The car length I would
have beat him by last year will be afew car lengths this year.  Afew of the
list members are running mid 11 1/4 miles.  Those Oldsmobiles would leave a
Saleen pilot scartching his head and wondering why he spent all that money..
Please dont play the handling card as we are talking raw acceleration here..

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:30:47 EDT
From: Oldsmobeav@aol.com
Subject: Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??

Isnt it enough I own the brooklyn bridge?

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:42:47 -0500
From: Norm Karlson <nkarlson@wordtech.com>
Subject: 1998 Silhouette plastic front end vibration

Hi all,
 
First time on your list. 
 
I have a Red 67 Cutlass Convertible (64K) and a 1998 Silhouette - Guess
which one is in the garage??
 
I mention the 67 to let you know I like the product but am experiencing
a problem I need some help.
 
When driving the Silhouette at 70mph I get a front end vibration that
can be heard inside but not felt. Not steering nor metal front end. It's
the plastic lower front end (cowling). If you all have ever gone to a
dealer and grabbed hold of a new one in the lot, they all are the same
and are as loose as a goose.
 
Well, It has been into the dealer three (3) times and he is getting
frustrated. He now says to drive it hard till it either breaks or falls
off...and I don't really agree with his solution.  
 
Anyone got any ideas? Anyone know if this is a common problem and if
there is a fix out there less than 50 speed screws or total replacement.
Still under warranty so I don't want yet to apply my own fix.
 
I am planning a long trip here in 2 weeks and don't want to drive like
grand-ma. 
 
Any help is appreciated
 
Best Regards
 
Norm Karlson
nkarlson@wordtech.com 

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:49:25 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang

Ken wrote:

> magazine tested the Ford in question and came up with a 13.0 at 111 mph 1/4

Well that isn't all that good for the Mustang.  My 442 stock was around
14.0
seconds I believe for the 1/4 mile.

> have beat him by last year will be afew car lengths this year.  Afew of the
> list members are running mid 11 1/4 miles.  Those Oldsmobiles would leave a
> Saleen pilot scartching his head and wondering why he spent all that money..

Well I stand corrected!  Viva la Oldsmobiles!!!!!!!!!

Chris

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:02:18 EDT
From: Knightvd@aol.com
Subject: Header insulation wrap

Has anyone used that insulation wrap that they sell for headers?  How does it 
hold up?  Is it hard to work with?  How bad does it look?  

I was thinking of using this stuff to help reduce the heat under the hood.  
I've heard it insulates significantly better than ceramic coating.

Thanks,

Vince Knight 
71 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:02:55 -0400
From: THOMAS JACQUILLARD <TJACQUILLARD@InfoAve.Net>
Subject: Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang

I have had the fun of showing a 98 Cobra that it wasn't worth the money. My '68
Supreme Hol. Cpe w/'68 Toro 455 and a th400 is no slouch. I have not had it 
down
the track yet, but it has hurt many a feelings. I had the Cobra roll up to me 
at
a light and he subsequently thought my car was nothing. Well, to his surprise,
after getting about a car length on me from the start, I was passing him by the
time he was going into third. I let off at about 100, but I had him by at least
a car length. He stopped me later that night and questioned what was under the
hood. I have put Posi in my car recently and boy has that made a difference. I
still have the original 2:78 gears in the ole 12 bolt diff, though. Anyway, I
just thought I would share that. I will soon take the car to the track and see
what it will do. But, the cobra goes in the books along with the 69 Buick
455/stage 1 that I put to rest.
T.J.

Ken wrote:

> >I know this isn't Olds related, however, has anyone seen one
> >of those new Mustang Cobra's with 450+ HP?  I think this
> >thing could blow the doors off of anything we have.
> >
>
> You mean the new Mustang Cobra can beat anything -YOU- have.  There are afew
> very fast Oldsmobiles on this list..

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:07:08 -0500
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Shaky Front end

>I need help to figure why my front end shakes when I apply the brakes at hi
>speed.  I had the rotors cut and that seem to have solved the problem but
>now the problem has resurfaced again.  what could have caused this?  Do my
>rotors need cutting again or am I using the wrong brakes?  Please help.
>
>Sam Johnson


Can you feel the brake pedal pulsating when you hit the brakes?  It should
get more intense the harder you push the pedal.  If this is the case, it's
in
your brakes.  As others have suggested look for a warped/too thin rotor as
the most likely cause.  Also check the caliper mounting.  If it's loose in
it's
slides it can cause problems.

If you don't feel anything in the pedal, or very little, you should look at
the
suspension:  ball joints, control arm bushings, or anything else that could
let the spindle shift.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:15:44 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: aluminum vs Fe

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Has anyone out there picked up a set of the new Edelbrock heads?  If so =
how good are they?  I have a set of 'C' heads that I was going to have =
rebuilt.  Will the Edelbrock heads be worth the extra cash?  I am no =
where near ready to build the motor,  but I like to dream.
The motor of my dream is streetable,  runs on pump gas,  and can be =
driven daily.  Will 10:1 slugs be able to live up to this or should I go =
to a lower compression?  I am planing a roller rocker set up.  Give me =
some ideas for cam specs.  Drive train to date is a 3.73 10 bolt posi =
rear,  and 400 trany.  Wheels are 14 inch rims with 235's?  I think.  I =
havent looked at them in awhile.  OK thats it for now, thanks.  I am =
getting carried away again.
meso@pamlico.net
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North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html

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cash?&nbsp; I am no where near ready to build the motor,&nbsp; but I =
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up.&nbsp; Give me some ideas for cam specs.&nbsp; Drive train to date is =
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:04:56 -0400
From: THOMAS JACQUILLARD <TJACQUILLARD@InfoAve.Net>
Subject: Re: 67 Cutlass vs. 97  Mustang

YES, the Saleen is a whole different can of worms. But, I would venture
to guess that there are a few here that could get it.
T.J.

Chris Sparks wrote:

> I just check and that was the Ford Saleen Mustang,
> not the Cobra.
>
> This Mustang has 495 HP, 0 - 60 in 4.6 seconds and
> 1/4 mile at 122 mph.  Didn't give time for the 1/4
> though.
>
> This is definitely faster than my 442 and it is
> even faster than a stock 1968 H/O.

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:22:35 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: Header insulation wrap

The stuff is easy to work with,  and works the best(I think).  The price is
right,  but the stuff looks like 20,000year old mummy wraps.
meso@pamlico.net
Steve
North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Knightvd@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: Header insulation wrap


> Has anyone used that insulation wrap that they sell for headers?  How does
it
> hold up?  Is it hard to work with?  How bad does it look?
>
> I was thinking of using this stuff to help reduce the heat under the hood.
> I've heard it insulates significantly better than ceramic coating.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vince Knight
> 71 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:20:08 -0500
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Stalwart Old 98

>  My little baby girl (17 years old) was out in my 69 98 LS hardtop (The
>Hornet).  Wet, dark night.  A car darted out from a side street, another
>driver veered to avoid the intruder and piled into the rear of The Hornet.
>The Ford that hit The Hornet was wreckered off.  The Hornet's rear bumper
is
>mis-aligned and the quarter panel has a smush.  But, Little Girl drove off
>and came home.  She said "Dad, this car is built like a tank".  I told her
>that that is why she was in it.  C bodies rule.  Peter.


Is this the infamous "walking girl" that wanted to trade in the 70 442?

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:24:39 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Header insulation wrap

yup used it on a 69 camaro but concept is the same dont even try to wrap it
nicely unless the headers are off the car if you take your time it looks
fine holds up great it is basically fibreglass
cloth use clamps at both ends of the strips and it will hold on just fine it
doesnt necessarily keep underhood temps down but it helps save plug wires on
the slomaro but each one of those are wrapped in a similar firebraid...KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Knightvd@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 6:02 PM
Subject: Header insulation wrap


> Has anyone used that insulation wrap that they sell for headers?  How does
it
> hold up?  Is it hard to work with?  How bad does it look?
>
> I was thinking of using this stuff to help reduce the heat under the hood.
> I've heard it insulates significantly better than ceramic coating.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vince Knight
> 71 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:27:37 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??

you too? wait a minute I think youve been had when did you buy it? i think I
got it when I was 21 that was 10 years ago or thereabouts you are claiming
ownership of my bridge!


requisit olds content, still working toward the installation of the 455 in
the 69 442
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Oldsmobeav@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Non-Olds===>Microsoft??


> Isnt it enough I own the brooklyn bridge?
>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:32:02 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: ICQ

Hi all,

Have any of you looked into ICQ?  I have a handle and will
be glad to mutually share it.  It is great for detecting
friends on the net.....

Later gators....

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:34:01 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Oil : Synthetic is the Best!

the film is only 2 mils thick has a very big guy with a sledge hammer trying
to push the crankshaft through it so I would say that viscosity breakdown at
high temp is an issue but I will use non dinosaur derived oil until my dying
day when I tore down an engine that had run its entire life on synthetic and
at 100grand it looked just like the day I originally sealed it up I was sold
and this was a racing engine so the 100,000 is just an estimate but one
season lots of burnouts and a bunch of
bonzai 1/4 mile passes approximately 100,000 miles worth of hard wear I have
now decided that synthetic works far better than dino and will continue to
use it and no dinosaurs were harmed in its manufacture....LOL....KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew C. Green <acg_o@hotmail.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: Oil : Synthetic is the Best!


> >Can 12 miles and three launches really cause significant oil break
> >down? I'd have bet long odds against it.
>
> ...and I'm not sure I'd equate viscosity breakdown with "oil breakdown";
the
> fact that it gets thinner at high temperatures doesn't in itself mean that
> the engine will be harmed. It's metal-to-metal contact that you should
worry
> about; a film of oil is what's protecting it, and that film is pretty
tough.
>
> Yes, the synthetic may retain its viscosity better at high temperatures,
but
> I think there's a little more to engine protection than just that: for
> example, whether the additives break down, whether dirt is kept in
> suspension long enough to be filtered out, that sort of thing.
>
> -- Andy
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:37:34 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Power Window Blues

>>Then come on over and we'll have a beer lookin' at it. Maybe a couple.
>
>Well hell.  Where are you?  I just reloacted to Houston for the summer...
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -


Connecticut. But if I ever get to come out that way on business......
We can toast B-Bodies.

drc

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:36:55 -0700
From: "Peter Berusch" <berusch@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Stalwart Old 98

>>  My little baby girl (17 years old) was out in my 69 98 LS hardtop (The
>>Hornet).  Wet, dark night.  A car darted out from a side street, another
>>driver veered to avoid the intruder and piled into the rear of The Hornet.
>>The Ford that hit The Hornet was wreckered off.  The Hornet's rear bumper
>is
>>mis-aligned and the quarter panel has a smush.  But, Little Girl drove off
>>and came home.  She said "Dad, this car is built like a tank".  I told her
>>that that is why she was in it.  C bodies rule.  Peter.
>
>
>Is this the infamous "walking girl" that wanted to trade in the 70 442?
>
>Mike Bloomer


  Exactamente.  And the 442 remains undisturbed and comfortable in my death
like grip.  Peter.

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:51:34 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Codes, Prd #'s  etc..

Robert McCarthy wrote:
> 
> Where do you get all this info....

The trim info came from the '65 Color and Upholstery Album, the option
info came from an article in the May '93 issue of JWO (I keep trying to
put this issue away, but this question seems to come up about once a
month here lately).  

> Good job you get an A+ from me,

Thanks, maybe I could go into this professionally?

> if you are ever in the Boston area

Well, the last time was 1986.

> gimme a shout I owe you a beer.

Never acquired a taste for the stuff, but thanks anyway.  Feel free to
send money. ;)

>      V-V - paint code for Almond Beige, upper and lower
>      Bingo !  (kinda a lame color if you ask me but it'll stay)

Well, I was gonna keep my thoughts to myself, but my first thought was
"Beige????".  Maybe they thought it complimented the Copper motor.  But
since everything seems to be correct here, I would be inclined to leave
alone, too.  I have a friend that had a '64 Cutlass convertible that WAS
this shade of beige.  I kinda liked it.  And the top matched perfectly. 
He didn't like it and painted it a later GM maroon metallic.  He didn't
like that and finally settled on white.  I liked the beige the best out
of all three.  But it's not very "sporty", is it?

>      Got tinted glass (very light tint and green strip across top
>      of windsheild)
>      Got power windows and power seat, drivers side only

I'm no expert, but I would think that the power seat is a scarce option
for an A-body.

> No emblems on the grill or rear (is this right?)

According to the Product Selling Manual there should be an emblem on the
trunk.  Not only should there be an emblem on the grille, but the 442s
had a special grille assembly, not shared with other F-85s.  Also says
something about special headlight pods, but I don't know how true that
is.

>      Looks like you hit the nail on the head.  Thanks alot, looks
>      like my 442 has never been molested, and has some cool
>      options.

That it does.  I think the power options and lack of console (and the
paint color) are all pretty interesting.

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:52:26 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Digital Camera for Pix of the Cutlai-OR maybe just a better 
SCANNER

For as often as I take pictures, it's cheaper for me to just pay the $3.95
extra to get the Kodak "Pictures On Disk" option when I have the film
developed. Takes a day or so longer, but any of the places that develop film
do it. They give you .gif pics of every shot, and a nifty thumbnail viewer
utility.

drc

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:00:59 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Shaky Front end

>I need help to figure why my front end shakes when I apply the brakes at hi
>speed.  I had the rotors cut and that seem to have solved the problem but
>now the problem has resurfaced again.  what could have caused this?  Do my
>rotors need cutting again or am I using the wrong brakes?  Please help.


Rock Man also said the same thing:

>My Honda use to have the same shake. I bought new rotors
>and they worked fine, but it is starting it again. I
>think it may be a worn drive shaft on the passenger
>side though that causes the shake now though.

You could have a stuck caliper. What happened to me is that the caliper on
one side became clogged with pieces of rubber from a deteriorated brake
hose. The piston wouldn't retract after letting off the brakes. Constant
contact with the rotor made it get hot and warp. Did the same thing again
until I changed caliper and hoses.


drc


>Sam Johnson
>71 Cutlass 455
>95 Ford Thunderbird
>

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:03:13 -0700
From: Chris Sparks <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: [Fwd: ICQ]

Sorry forgot a link.....


http://www.mirabilis.com/

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