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Re: ~We~Need~an~Oldsmobile~Big~Body~Club~
What Cam for my 66 98 Conv? 
Share the Love man!
Re: f/s shifter cables source?
Re: brake booster color?/vs plateing?
Re: Wheel adapters
Re: 1965 442 Experts
Re: Wheel adapters
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1981
Wholesale Source for Eng Gaskets?
RE: Master cylinder question
Down Web Page
Re: What Cam for my 66 98 Conv? 
72 98 4dr, Changing front speakers
Re: Welding Cab corners
Re: Share the Love man!
Re: interesting query
Re: Off Topics
Re: Wholesale Source for Eng Gaskets?
Wanted: '66 Olds chassis & body service manuals.
Re: Wanted: '66 Olds chassis & body service manuals.
RE: Wanted: '66 Olds chassis & body service manuals.
Re: 1950 Olds for sale
Re: Welding Cab corners
Re: 1965 442 Experts
RE: OFF TOPIC POSTS - Delete if your tired of this string!
A LITTLE GOLF ANYONE?
Re: Off Topics
Windshields
Re: Jets and M Rod for a 403.
Re: Windshields
Re: 70 Cutlass dashboard removal
Need info on '67 442/Cutlass
'67 Delta 88 2DHT For Sale!
'61 Econoline pickup question (NON OLDS)
Re: Break Dust Problem.
Off topic but important
79 Cutlass or parts for sale
Re: Off topic but important
Re: Off topic but important
Re: Brake Dust Problem.
Re: Break Dust Problem. 
Re: Need info on '67 442/Cutlass
Re: Wheel adapters
Re: Off topic but important
Re: Off topic but important
Re: Off topic but important
Re: Off topic but important
Re: Off topic but important
Alternators
OK, An Olds post for a change
New Olds'
WOT :-)
Surface rust on PSI plate
carburator q
Re: New '67 Cutlass Convert. owner

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 05:24:50 GMT
From: "Chris Rivier" <crivier@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ~We~Need~an~Oldsmobile~Big~Body~Club~

Hi Big Car Guys,

Personally, I like the list inclusive of us Big Bodies.  How about just 
creating a chat on ICQ or a agreed upon domain, i.e. Yahoo or Hotbot for Big 
Car Discussions.  One advantage with ICQ is, you can call the other people 
on your list while they are online to see if they are available to chat, or 
just send a message.

Looks like it could be a good start...
Chris Rivier~66 Delta 88
R. Kevin Noon ~66 Dynamic 88 Convertible~Dynamic-saurus Rex
Dave Brown
Karl SOM&KA
Clayton Pierce

What do you guys think?

Happy Cruisin',

Chris Rivier
Austin,TX
'66 Delta 88  Sporting a New Gold Coat...website soon.
'88 Festiva   ZIPPY 166K Lil' Parts Hauler.
'81 Corolla   El Zombie...does not die.  Sis' car.


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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:32:44 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: What Cam for my 66 98 Conv? 

So, my 98 convertible is getting it's motor rebuilt. Spun a bearing dontcha
know. S'o.k., had blowby and mismatched cylinder pressures for years. 

Originally a 425, now ported and polished 455, with a Holley 3310, HEI, &
factory duals, it's cam choosing time again. This time I'm treating it to
roller rockers too! Sounds good, wonder if I'll feel the difference. 

Last time I rebuilt it (in '87) the builders incorrectly (I think) installed
a Toro cam. It was eventually changed when we figured out it was for the
wrong lifter bank angle. It ran o.k. at high RPM's but couldn't idle for
sh*t. This was before the Olds list (BTOL) and I was unschooled in the ways
of lifter bank angles. Recall that in the early years of the 425/455 Olds
used both 39 degree and 45 degree lifter bank angles.

Problemo is, I can't remember what lifter bank angle my 66 Big Block is.
Anybody know? I have an Engle cam card on which I wrote the note that 66
Toro cam didn't fit. I also wrote 39 degree LBA. But I don't know whether
that described the wrong or right cam. Anybody know what lifter bank angle
the Toro's used? If the Toro cam was wrong for my motor at 39 degrees --
voila -- we have an answer... 

If not, data on which angle block I've got, or how to determine would help.
Maybe the casting # behind the water pump...? If memory serves the lifter
diameter or lifter hole diameter had clues to this puzzle too...

Last time I got an RV cam, but didn't really choose it. Always had the
feeling that I might have done better. I'm looking for a slightly warmer
than stock motor. Now's that time. I'm looking for a smooth idle, good low
end power, don't need much beyond 4500 RPM. I don't really wind it out.
After all, it's a 98. What suggestions for a cam do you all have? 

Look forward to hearing from you. I'll bet there's lots of opinions on this
one. For starters, I'm kind of thinking a Starfire profile... but then you
probably all know that story. 

cheers,
cf

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:05:12 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Share the Love man!

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impressed by the members willingness to trust a complete stranger.  We =
all send parts and money back and forth without a blink.  We have even =
given out personal phone numbers and addresses. JUST DONT POST NO DAMN =
OFF TOPIC QUESTIONS!!!!!!   AHHHHH GRRR!!!
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all off topic with our fascination with Oldsmobile,  because it aint a =
Chebby!
I am willing to help with any questions I think I can.   Ask me anything =
from cubic inches to "how do I get pecker tracks out of a wedding =
dress?".  Thats my 2 cents.  Sorry but I had to do it.
meso@pamlico.net
Steve
North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:38:34 EDT
From: Socalolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: f/s shifter cables source?

Try the dealer I bought 5 the other day.

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 06:05:27 -0400
From: "Wayne Schwartz" <wschwart@cgocable.net>
Subject: Re: brake booster color?/vs plateing?

Thanks Cliff.  Wayne

- -----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: brake booster color?/vs plateing?


>
>Wayne Schwartz wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in comments too.  Coincidently I just picked up a new
booster
>> tonight and will probably use the Eastwoods paint on it since I don't
live
>> near a good plating shop.  Anyone got Eastwoods 1-800 number.  I don't
have
>> a catalogue.
>
>http://www.eastwoodco.com/ or,
>Customer Service Representative: 1-800-544-5118 or,
>Order over the Phone by Calling: 1-800-345-1178 or,
>mailto:orderhelp@eastwoodco.com
>--
>
>Cliff "Surfer" Simpson
>mailto:csimpson@ucalgary.ca
>'69 442/400/th400/3.31p (Kermit)
>http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html
>

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:00:04 -0500
From: Wyatt <Wyatt@jobax.net>
Subject: Re: Wheel adapters

Harrell17@aol.com wrote:

> Back in the "Good Ol Days" when I was a kid you could buy adapters to change
> wheel bolt patterns, like 5 hole to 6 hole, Ford to Chevy, etc. Does anyone
> know where those can still be found. I have a set of SSII wheels I would like
> to put on my 65 Chevy pickup. Thanks, Jim

I tried a pair of these on a 55 ch*vy many years ago and did not like them.  
They
creaked and groaned every time I turned the wheel.  They move the center line 
of
the wheel out, which has the same effect as too much offset.
The load on those little plates is tremendous and I did not trust them to hold 
up
very long.  Dad had a set on a dune buggy with no problems, but it was a whole
bunch lighter than the 55.  Your truck is no light weight either.
I would suggest having the drums and axles drilled to accept the 5 bolt 
pattern.
It might cost a little more, but it will be safe.

My $.02
Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:07:34 EDT
From: Four42much@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1965 442 Experts

In a message dated 99-05-27 01:16:10 EDT, you write:

<< I am in the process of detailing me 65 and I have a few questions I hope 
some of you guys my have the answers to.
 
   1.. What type of Battery cables are original?  Slip ring or bolt style? >>
 Answer = Bolt Style

2.. What color are the add on items on the engine?  Like the brackets for the 
P/S Pump, the Pump itself, the battery try, radiator supports, etc....Are 
they gloss or semi gloss black?
Answer = Semi for everything except the Battery tray is Gloss

 3.. Did the 65 442 have  a hood blanket?
Answer = Yes (hood insulater)

4.. Was there a spare tire cover?
Answer = yes, round card board cover (hounds tooth)

 5.. How many decals were used under hood and in the trunk?  What type and 
where?


Answer (hood) = positive/negative battery decal(goes on top of radiator 
support by battery)
                         ...was a tag on top of radiator support for 
antifreeze info held on by a little clip...not reproduced

Answer (trunk) = jacking instructions, jack storage, posi decal if equipped 
.....many different locations....take a look at your next carshow or buy an 
original road test of the car...thats the best for this kind of info....

Good luck...Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:19:17 EDT
From: Moparrp@aol.com
Subject: Re: Wheel adapters

the reason it is hard to find those is because they  had a lot of problems 
with breaking. if you really want those on your truck update to a 5 lug rear 
end and change front drums or convert to front disc brakes. there are a lot 
of conversion kits for all makes of trucks. you can still find them at swap 
meets too if you really want the adapters

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:34:49 -0400
From: Jim Olson <jolson@edzone.net>
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #1981

Please pass this on...

I have a 1983 Chev Malibu Station Wagon with a 1983 Olds 307 engine and
trans, which are both in fairly good condition, but the car's junk. I
also have a 77-9 Olds 350 engine only that needs a valve job, otherwise
the motor was very strong when I pulled it out.

I need to get rid of these as soon as possible. I'm in Shepherd, MI
which is an hour north of Lansing right on US27.

I'll take $250 for the car w/extra motor, and for another $150 I have a
floor shifter, console and bucket seats (blue) from the 1985 Cutlass
Supreme I parted out last fall.

OR

I'll trade what I have for a fair condition anything GM (within reason)
in the Central Michigan area. Chevy, Olds, Buick, Pontiac, I don't care,
I just need some more wheels.

If you're interested, please email me at jolson@edzone.net as soon as
possible. I need another car quickly.

Thanks!

Jim...

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:44:29 -0400
From: "Ken Swick" <swickka@pa.net>
Subject: Wholesale Source for Eng Gaskets?

I think this was batted around some months ago ...
But does anyone know of a wholesale source for 
Engine gaskets ... parts ... pistons, cams etc.

I'm on my third Olds engine rebuild ... two for myself
one for a friend. Teo Engines waiting .
I didn't mean to do this many rebuilds .... 
but ... I kinda like it.

What I don't like is NAPA prices for gaskets.
Any ideas ... on a wholesaler

Ken Swick
swickka@pa.net

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 05:50:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rock Man <rockman20@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Master cylinder question

- --- Master Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com> wrote:
> What?  What are you talking about?  I don't want to
> get buffed with a wire
> wheel!  And I'm not looking shabby.  Oh, wait a
> minute.  Master cylinder, I
> thought you said Master Costanzo.  Sorry about that.
=============================

*LOL* Well.....you could probably use a little
shave....

Anyways, I talked to Mark and I have decided that I am
going to go about it the long way. I am going to be
spraying the whole firewall with POR-15 so it will
have to come off anyways. The one thing that I wasn't
thinking about though was the clear coating. Thinking
about the brake fluid....normal clear coat wouldn't
hold up. I know that someone asked this before but I
didn't see a reply. Anyone used the clearcoat from
RestoMotive? (Makers of POR) Maybe I will have to
contact them and see how well this product would hold
up to brake fluid. Thanks again for everyone that
helped me out on this.

Del
===
Rock-Man's Page http://www.angelfire.com/nd/RockMan
rockman20@yahoo.com
1986 Honda Accord DX And a 1969 Olds Cutlass "S"
1985 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler And a 1983 Honda Big Red 3-wheeler (For Sale)
1981 John Deer Snowmobile And a 197? Massey Ferguson Snowmobile
(I like things in pairs! *LOL*)
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:48:57 -0400
From: "Meyer, Erich" <EMeyer@mdsctl.com>
Subject: Down Web Page

To all list members Kevin's Web page (http://members.home.net/kgrant442/)
was removed by accident by Rogers@Home <mailto:Rogers@Home>  hopefully
 it will be back soon.
All e-mail sent to kgrant442@home.com <mailto:kgrant442@home.com>  will be
bounced back to you.


Erich 84 H/O

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:54:39 EDT
From: Oldsfire@aol.com
Subject: Re: What Cam for my 66 98 Conv? 

CF, if your 425 is a 66 it has the 45 degree cam bank angle, only the toro 
425 had the 39 degree cam bank angle in 66.  In 67 all 425's went to the 39 
degree CBA.  Check with Joe Mondello at1103 Paso Robles St. Paso Robles 
Calif. 93446   (805) 237-8808    http://www.tcsn.net/mondello         He has 
a good selection of cams  for the 45 degree CBA  all are ground by Engles 
Cams.    John!!     Oldsfire@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 06:00:40 PDT
From: "Eric Aksomitis" <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: 72 98 4dr, Changing front speakers

So I pulled Big Green out for Spring, complete with deer-horn hood ornament, 
new power seats, new floor-metal, new power-window motor, everything 
important except new speakers.

So I was trying to get at the old speakers, and It looked like they just 
pull out from the top, but all I managed to do was bend the cover a little.  
Do I have to get these speakers out from the under-neath (please say no).   
I know my Cutlass speakers just come out from the top!

At any rate, any suggestions appreciated, as the plush new 60-40 6-way power 
seats really make cruising nice, if only I had some reasonable noise to 
compliment it!

At any rate, a MUST SEE hood Ornament (has since been painted white) is at:
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/pics/greenhorn/

http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/biggreen.shtml



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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 06:08:41 PDT
From: "Eric Aksomitis" <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Welding Cab corners

From what I've seen, gas migs are still better for thin metal, but people do 
use flux-core for those things, so it must be possible.  I'm just trying-out 
welding thin metal, grabbing some lessons from my Dad.  It's a little 
different than thick stuff, for example:
1) Only weld 1/4 to 1/2 inch chunks at a time (otherwise too much warpage)
2) Start away and work back to existing weld.
3) It's OK to use what would be 'bad' patterns to get the weld in without 
melting the steel, as strength is not the real concern like thick steel.

Sorry for blabbing, .02 given
Eric Aksomitis
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/

>I don't have experience on welding thin metal like that, but i can >weld 
>thick metal quite well! what do you think?


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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:40:33 EDT
From: LOUS69W30@aol.com
Subject: Re: Share the Love man!

In a message dated 05/27/1999 1:59:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
meso@pamlico.net writes:

<<  Ask me anything from cubic inches to "how do I get pecker tracks out of a 
wedding dress?" >>

I always wondered about that Steve.  Are you going to tell us how to get 
those pecker tracks out.  LOL

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:24:52 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: interesting query

All other Olds sb's use the same-stroke crank, so swapping
between 260, 330, 350, 307, 403 will not gain or lose CID, just upset the
balance....
_____

Of course, what this also means is that if you score one of the (now becoming
harder to find) forged 330 cranks, it will drop into your 350 or 403 with only 
a
rebalance and one of CBW's dual pattern flexplates.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:20:58 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Off Topics

Greg and all;
Don't know what the big deal is here....
_______

Newcomers may not realize this, but the big deal is that we all get this list
hosted for free thanks to Greg.  He created it, he administers it, and he gets
paid nothing.  While I will also occasionally stray from the central topic, the
reality is that as list traffic increases, it takes up more and more bandwidth
on the host.  At some point this may become excessive and may result in our
being asked to find a new (and I should add, not free) host.  This is the 
reason
for the continual requests to keep list traffic on topic and to take private
conversations (as in negotiations on items for sale) off the list.  As Greg
noted, a little common sense will go an awfully long way.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:38:00 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Wholesale Source for Eng Gaskets?

Ken,

I've had excellent results with National Automotive Lines (www.natauto.com).
You can request a free catalog from their web site, or you can call
800-428-4300.  Note that they carry many, many items not listed in the catalog,
so just call.  For example, I ordered a lifetime Modine four row radiator for 
my
69 442; got it three working days later, and the price was substantially lower
than any I had seen elsewhere.  Also, while you obviously have to pay shipping,
this is more than compensated by not having to pay sales tax (at least, here in
VA we have sales tax).  I've noticed that while National Automotive Lines is
_usually_ cheaper than anyplace else, occasionally a local store will have a
sale with a loss leader price.  For example, earlier this year Trak Auto had an
incredible price on Monroe gas shocks which was significantly lower than the
regular price from National.  This is an exception, but it obviously pays to
check.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:05:54 -0500
From: cdemps@lsumc.edu (Dempsey, Charles)
Subject: Wanted: '66 Olds chassis & body service manuals.

A couple of months ago I picked up a '66 Cutlass Sport Coupe (white,
330, 4bbl, bench). It had been sleeping in the owner's garage since 1985
(and looked it). I have slowly brought it back to life. Basically all it
needed was an ignition tune up, brake hydraulics, some minor carb
adjustments, and a set of tires. The paint is tired, and the AC
evaporator coil is blown, but who cares. That 330 is a revving dude!

It's time I bought a shop manual. Anybody got a '66 Olds Chassis Service
Manual, and maybe a Body Service Manual that you no longer need? A '65
might do in a pinch. Please e-mail cdemps@lsumc.edu off the list.

Thanks,
Charles

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:10:40 -0400
From: "Edward Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: '66 Olds chassis & body service manuals.

Check ebay. Service, chassis, and body manuals for all sorts of cars and
years are ALWAYS on there.

Go to: http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/category1254/index.html

Ed

- -----Original Message-----

>A couple of months ago I picked up a '66 Cutlass Sport Coupe (white,
>330, 4bbl, bench). It had been sleeping in the owner's garage since 1985
>(and looked it). I have slowly brought it back to life. Basically all it
>needed was an ignition tune up, brake hydraulics, some minor carb
>adjustments, and a set of tires. The paint is tired, and the AC
>evaporator coil is blown, but who cares. That 330 is a revving dude!
>
>It's time I bought a shop manual. Anybody got a '66 Olds Chassis Service
>Manual, and maybe a Body Service Manual that you no longer need? A '65
>might do in a pinch. Please e-mail cdemps@lsumc.edu off the list.
>
>Thanks,
>Charles
>

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:08:16 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: RE: Wanted: '66 Olds chassis & body service manuals.

Charles,
The books you're looking for are the 66 Chassis Service Manual and
(optionally) the Fisher Body Manual for 1966 Oldsmobiles.
I got mine from Faxon's auto literature. A quick call to (800)555-1212
(directory assistance) should help you chase down their 800 number. As I
recall they work out of San Diego, CA. I think Fusick's in Windsor Locks, CT
may have it too. 
Contact Info:
Fusick Automotive 22 Thompson Rd East Windsor Ct 06088-0655 1-860-623-1589

Not too hard to find if you look. My guess on pricing is $60-80 bucks these
days, not much more than what I paid 10-12 years ago.

The Service Manual is worth it's weight in Gold. An excellent early
investment.

cf

- -----Original Message-----
From: cdemps@lsumc.edu [mailto:cdemps@lsumc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 7:06 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Wanted: '66 Olds chassis & body service manuals.


A couple of months ago I picked up a '66 Cutlass Sport Coupe (white,
330, 4bbl, bench). It had been sleeping in the owner's garage since 1985
(and looked it). I have slowly brought it back to life. Basically all it
needed was an ignition tune up, brake hydraulics, some minor carb
adjustments, and a set of tires. The paint is tired, and the AC
evaporator coil is blown, but who cares. That 330 is a revving dude!

It's time I bought a shop manual. Anybody got a '66 Olds Chassis Service
Manual, and maybe a Body Service Manual that you no longer need? A '65
might do in a pinch. Please e-mail cdemps@lsumc.edu off the list.

Thanks,
Charles

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:09:11 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1950 Olds for sale

In a message dated 5/26/99 9:23:52 PM EST, plh@nbn.net writes:

<<  What is it?  A Convertible? Holiday Coupe?  Club Coupe?  2-door Sedan?
 > 4-door Sedan?  Standard of Deluxe model?  It all makes a difference...
  >>
It's a four door sedan. With the options, it may be deluxe. 
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv (duals of course)

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:14:07 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Welding Cab corners

I weld thin stuff all the time and all I use is flux core wire. Of course
I've also become an expert at filling in holes too. I most always get good
results. Takes patience to develop a style that works. Just don't breath
too much of that smoke. A box fan works good for that.

Omega Man





At 06:08 AM 5/27/99 PDT, you wrote:
>>From what I've seen, gas migs are still better for thin metal, but people
do 
>use flux-core for those things, so it must be possible.  I'm just trying-out 
>welding thin metal, grabbing some lessons from my Dad.  It's a little 
>different than thick stuff, for example:
>1) Only weld 1/4 to 1/2 inch chunks at a time (otherwise too much warpage)
>2) Start away and work back to existing weld.
>3) It's OK to use what would be 'bad' patterns to get the weld in without 
>melting the steel, as strength is not the real concern like thick steel.
>
>Sorry for blabbing, .02 given
>Eric Aksomitis
>http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/
>
>>I don't have experience on welding thin metal like that, but i can >weld 
>>thick metal quite well! what do you think?
>
>
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:53:37 EDT
From: R4C442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1965 442 Experts

Hey Dave!
	If you have the N98 chrome wheel option the spare cover will not 
work. As a matter of fact, the jack stowage decal from the factory was 
incorrect with this option (incidentally, the usage decal goes directly in 
the middle hole of the trunk....the stowage one just to the right in the next 
available hole.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:39:53 -0500
From: Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com
Subject: RE: OFF TOPIC POSTS - Delete if your tired of this string!

Okay....I don't speak up much but here goes.......

As long as everyone is reasonable about the amount and length of off
topic posts it actually benefits everyone.

Some of the topics that have come up about other makes of vehicles have
been of great use to me if only to learn what to look for on my Cutlass.

Also, if we really are all friends here, I want to know if you have a
baby or if your getting shipped off to war.

That's what friends are for!!!

Besides....my dad owns an outstanding '69 Lemans convertible and he
might need help with his "a" body some time.

It would only be fair to help him with one or two questions with all the
help he's given me on my Cutlass.

- -off the soap box-

Mickey

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:58:54 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: A LITTLE GOLF ANYONE?

Do you think they'd let you on the course with this and a 12 pack of Red Dog?

http://www.carnut.com/show/swap98/swp9828.jpg

http://www.carnut.com/show/swap98/swp9827.jpg


Olds content:
Got the front clip, windows and all the trim off the Omega last weekend.
Cracked my damn windshield. GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!! This weekend I
break out the wire wheel and sandpaper and get my order off to POR-15. 

Omega Man
'74 Omega S 455/auto (coming along finally)
'74 Omega 455/4spd (maybe next year)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:23:28 EDT
From: LOUS69W30@aol.com
Subject: Re: Off Topics

In a message dated 05/26/1999 10:40:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
lbiggs@intertek.net writes:

<< Don't know what the big deal is here. Aren't we all brothers? We're not
 driving Chevys. Help a guy out when he's in a bind. If not, take my butt
 off the list. I thought we were all together. Much talk about nothing. Grow
 up guys!
 Lou (Master) Biggs >>

I have to agree with my man Lou on this one.  Of course all of us "Lous" have 
to stick together. I have been on the list for maybe 6 months now and I love 
99.99% of the information that is discussed.  If there is something I'm not 
interested in I will look at it real fast and move on to the next item.

I usually don't get into a soapbox routine, however this off topic item has 
really got me going.  I feel this list is a knowledge database.  If we added 
up all of the member's years of experience working on cars, Oldsmobile and 
other brands, it would be staggering.  Why not use all of that information.  
I agree the main focus should be Oldsmobiles, but once in a while an off 
topic is OK.

Many of the things we do discuss are not directly related to Oldsmobiles. 
Just recently we had a thread about POR-15.  Does this mean we can only 
discuss it if you want to put it on an Oldsmobile frame?  We also discussed 
garage floor paint.  Does this mean you have to have an Oldsmobile in the 
garage to discuss this?

Also Andy?s story about the torsion bar adjustment was a riot.  I was 
definitely laughing out loud.  Anything that brightens your day is worthwhile 
if you ask me.

If someone posts a question about another brand what's the big deal.  
Remember - There Are No Stupid Questions.

Off the soap box

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:29:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Windshields

On Thu, 27 May 1999, Gene Gilpin wrote:
> Got the front clip, windows and all the trim off the Omega last weekend.
> Cracked my damn windshield. GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!! This weekend I
> break out the wire wheel and sandpaper and get my order off to POR-15. 

Don't have what happened to me happen to you when you go to get the
windshield replaced... watch them like hawks if you possibly can.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
   --- Olds List Admin Instructions at: http://oldslist.tsx.org ---
             &  http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:32:31 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jets and M Rod for a 403.

In a message dated 99-05-26 15:32:38 EDT, you write:

<<  72 jet with a 43K rod in my Q-jet that sits on my 
 newly rebuilt 403 (@ 0.030 over = 409CID) SB, and the engine is 
 definitely running lean.  I don't want to overheat this new engine, so 
 I think a rejet is in order.  I've heard that 73 (thanks Fred) is the 
 stock jet (non-CA) for this engine at sea level.  Although I can play, 
 would 74 jet/45K metering rod sound about right as a start point?  
 This car (1982 Toro) will be a daily driver. >>

Karl would think your start point should be 72 jet with 43K rod.
Change only one (1) thing at a time!!
Changing more will only make any gains or losses vague as to cause.

17051350 is the part # for the metering rod used in late federal 1977 Toro 
403's, and 73 was the matching jet.
Dunno if ...350 is a 50K rod or what.

Good luck!

SOM

&KA

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:39:19 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Windshields

Don't worry, I do it myself. I've done it a couple times before. Just got a
little impatient on this one. First one I ever cracked. DANGIT!! Anyone
pulling their own windshield be carefull and PATIENT! It don't take much
pressure on the edge to start a crack. And all you have to do is tap on
that crack to make it longer. 

Omega Man



At 02:29 PM 5/27/99 -0300, you wrote:
>On Thu, 27 May 1999, Gene Gilpin wrote:
>> Got the front clip, windows and all the trim off the Omega last weekend.
>> Cracked my damn windshield. GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!! This weekend I
>> break out the wire wheel and sandpaper and get my order off to POR-15. 
>
>Don't have what happened to me happen to you when you go to get the
>windshield replaced... watch them like hawks if you possibly can.
>
>Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
>   --- Olds List Admin Instructions at: http://oldslist.tsx.org ---
>             &  http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm
>
>

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:09:19 -0400
From: Tee_Templeton@tivoli.com
Subject: Re: 70 Cutlass dashboard removal

Thanks to everyone for their answers on this.  This was my first use of a
mail list and it was extremely helpful.

I've only got one speaker hole in the front.  I've seen offers for two
speakers on a single speaker structure for stereo.  Any comments on those?
It looks like it would be convenient for installing.  Do they sound good or
is it better to try to rig up something yourself?  Also, what do you do for
back speakers in a convertible?

Thanks, Tee
NC

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:18:14 -0400
From: dgerow@stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Need info on '67 442/Cutlass

Hello all,

    I've decided to sell my '69 442 outright and save up for a '67 442
or Cutlass.  I enjoy the longer, boxier body style of the 67's much more
than those on the 68-72's.  What should I be looking for in the 67's.  I
know the Cutlass came with an optional 330, and the 442 had a
400/TH400.  I'm more versed in the 68's and on, so if anyone could send
me some info, I'd appreciate it.  Just things like know problems to look
for, certain little culprits unique to this year.  Thanks again.

Dan Gerow

'69 442
'72 Grand Prix

- --
- ---------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
Computer Support
Systems Administrator
Stonehill College
320 Washington Street
Easton, MA 02357
dgerow@stonehill.edu
- ---------------------

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:27:45 -0700
From: Mark A Janda <schnehe@juno.com>
Subject: '67 Delta 88 2DHT For Sale!

I am selling a 1967 Oldsmobile Delta 88.  It has the 425 High Compression
engine, 4bbl carb, and dual exhaust,   The upholstery, carpets, and vinyl
top have been redone.  It has 86k orig. miles although the title doesn't
reflect that.  It has the original gold paint and it is in pretty good
condition, although it does have some parking lot rash type dings on the
doors.  It is in great original condition.  You can see a picture of it
at www.442.com/janda.html.  I am sacrificing it for $3500 obo.  If you
are interested, contact me directly at schnehe@juno.com, because I am not
on the mailing list.  I am located in Chandler, AZ. 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:42 
From: "John Carri" <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: '61 Econoline pickup question (NON OLDS)

In order to ask this question in the appropriate venue, I joined the 
Fordnatics mailing list and posted my question there, but never got a 
reply. I'm hoping the friendly folks on the Olds list will help me 
out. Please reply privately, off-list, so as not to annoy anyone. 


My father-in-law owns a 1961 Ford Econoline pickup. He's owned it for 
something like 35 years. It's white, no body damage, complete, in 
pretty good running condition - he drives it to work occasionally - 
and with only small amounts of very light surface rust in a few places 
(it's a California vehicle). It has a 1971 200 CID inline-6 engine 
with a 1-bbl carb in it now (the original engine was a 144 CID 
6-cylinder with mechanical lifters). The transmission is a 3-speed 
manual.  The interior is not original in that the upholstery was done 
by my father-in-law. 

For various reasons, the owner is looking to sell this truck, provided 
it goes to someone who will appreciate it and treat it well. Anybody 
know ballpark values for what it's worth?  Any information would be 
appreciated, as I'm not familiar with classic Ford vehicles.

The vehicle is in the Los Angeles area, if anyone is interested in 
taking a look at it, email me off the list and I'll put you in touch 
with the owner.

TIA for any information.

- -John Carri
jcarri@alesis1.usa.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:47:56 EDT
From: LOUS69W30@aol.com
Subject: Re: Break Dust Problem.

In a message dated 05/26/1999 11:51:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
gjcouse@francomm.com writes:

<< Do those plexiglass brake shields that
 slip on between the hub and wheel help at containing the dust from coming
 out through the rim vent holes? Anyone ever try these shields?  Though I'm
 sure they will also hinder brake cooling. >>

Gary,
I had an 86 P*ntiac STE with 4 wheel disks that I used those shields on.  
They definitely helped cut down on the brake dust, they didnot elimate it 
completely.  
I would recommend them.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:49:33 -0400
From: "Ed Binnix" <comid@jellico.com>
Subject: Off topic but important

I received a request from the Make a Wish Foundation. There is a 17 year old
boy named Craig Sheffield. He has terminal cancer. His wish is to get into
the Guiness Book of World Records before he dies. He is attempting to do
this by collecting the largest collection of business cards in the world.
Sounds easy except that there can be no duplication. I am sending one of
mine as well as six others that I've come by. If you can help, send your
business card (and others also) to:

Craig Shefford
c/o Children's Perimeter Center East
3200 Perimeter Center
Atlanta, GA  30345

This is not from spam. I am the original generator of this message. I got it
from a fellow member of the Middlesboro Ministerial Association. I send it
to this list because I have seen the kind of people that are members. I hope
this off-topic post does not offend anyone. If you can pass this message to
others (people you know, no spamming) who you feel might help. I would
greatly appreciate it. Time is of the essence. God bless you.
Ed

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:54:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: brain@luis.yourwebhost.com
Subject: 79 Cutlass or parts for sale

Supreme Brogham 79 (260 Engine)

Dark blue exterior/light blue interior.

Engine and brake work needed.

Rally wheels/stereo/amps/extra interior parts/factopry moonroof.

Selling asis or for parts.

If anyone wants a part, please reply to me personally (so as not to clog up
the list), and let's talk.

We are in Omaha, NE.

Reason:   car needs TLC, and I cannot provide it at this time.  I am hoping
that one of you fine folks will decide to fix up a 79 Olds Cutlass at some
point in the future and will fix up a nice blue one with a sunroof.  Then, in
10 years, when you are done with the car, and would like to sell your restored
79, look me up, because I would like to buy it.

:-)

Jim

- -- 
Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII) (online sig)
bii@mail.jbrain.com "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my employer"
Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!      -Me-
BII Home: http://www.jbrain.com          CBM Info: 
http://www.jbrain.com/vicug/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:01:31 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

I'll send him a couple.

Omega Man


At 02:49 PM 5/27/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I received a request from the Make a Wish Foundation. There is a 17 year old
>boy named Craig Sheffield. He has terminal cancer. His wish is to get into
>the Guiness Book of World Records before he dies. He is attempting to do
>this by collecting the largest collection of business cards in the world.
>Sounds easy except that there can be no duplication. I am sending one of
>mine as well as six others that I've come by. If you can help, send your
>business card (and others also) to:
>
>Craig Shefford
>c/o Children's Perimeter Center East
>3200 Perimeter Center
>Atlanta, GA  30345
>
>This is not from spam. I am the original generator of this message. I got it
>from a fellow member of the Middlesboro Ministerial Association. I send it
>to this list because I have seen the kind of people that are members. I hope
>this off-topic post does not offend anyone. If you can pass this message to
>others (people you know, no spamming) who you feel might help. I would
>greatly appreciate it. Time is of the essence. God bless you.
>Ed
>
>
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:05:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: brain@luis.yourwebhost.com
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

Not to dampen anyone's spirits, but is anyone in GA who can verify this?  The
name sounds a lot like Craig Shergood, which is an urban legend.

I encourage giving.  I just dont; want folks to bombard the hospital if it is
the wrong address or the information is incorrect.

Jim

Gene Gilpin wrote on my screen:
> 
> I'll send him a couple.
> 
> Omega Man
> 
> 
> At 02:49 PM 5/27/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >I received a request from the Make a Wish Foundation. There is a 17 year old
> >boy named Craig Sheffield. He has terminal cancer. His wish is to get into
> >the Guiness Book of World Records before he dies. He is attempting to do
> >this by collecting the largest collection of business cards in the world.
> >Sounds easy except that there can be no duplication. I am sending one of
> >mine as well as six others that I've come by. If you can help, send your
> >business card (and others also) to:
> >
> >Craig Shefford
> >c/o Children's Perimeter Center East
> >3200 Perimeter Center
> >Atlanta, GA  30345
> >
> >This is not from spam. I am the original generator of this message. I got it
> >from a fellow member of the Middlesboro Ministerial Association. I send it
> >to this list because I have seen the kind of people that are members. I hope
> >this off-topic post does not offend anyone. If you can pass this message to
> >others (people you know, no spamming) who you feel might help. I would
> >greatly appreciate it. Time is of the essence. God bless you.
> >Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 


- -- 
Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII) (online sig)
bii@mail.jbrain.com "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my employer"
Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!      -Me-
BII Home: http://www.jbrain.com          CBM Info: 
http://www.jbrain.com/vicug/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:06:20 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: Brake Dust Problem.

<< Do those plexiglass brake shields that
 slip on between the hub and wheel help at containing the dust from coming
 out through the rim vent holes? Anyone ever try these shields?  Though I'm
 sure they will also hinder brake cooling. >>
_______

The problem with these shields, as you note, is that they block cooling air to
the brakes.  Hot brakes do not stop, so given the choice, I'll go with the dust
any day.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:00:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: George <cutlass@one.camd.lsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Break Dust Problem. 

> << Do those plexiglass brake shields that
>  slip on between the hub and wheel help at containing the dust from coming
>  out through the rim vent holes? Anyone ever try these shields?  Though I'm
>  sure they will also hinder brake cooling. >>
> 
> Gary,
> I had an 86 P*ntiac STE with 4 wheel disks that I used those shields on.  
> They definitely helped cut down on the brake dust, they didnot elimate it 
> completely.  
> I would recommend them.

I wonder if those shields don't prevent the air ventilation and let the 
pads and rotors heat up more? I don't know how they are designed but I 
would let the dust be dust and give brakes all the air ventilation they 
need. I think if you get close to overheating your brakes (e.g. when 
driving downhill in the mountans) the shields may cause a problem?

Regards, George 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:30:40 -0500
From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
Subject: Re: Need info on '67 442/Cutlass

Daniel R. Gerow wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
>     I've decided to sell my '69 442 outright and save up for a '67 442
> or Cutlass.  I enjoy the longer, boxier body style of the 67's much more
> than those on the 68-72's.  What should I be looking for in the 67's.  I
> know the Cutlass came with an optional 330, and the 442 had a
> 400/TH400.  I'm more versed in the 68's and on, so if anyone could send
> me some info, I'd appreciate it.  Just things like know problems to look
> for, certain little culprits unique to this year.  Thanks again.
> 
> Dan Gerow
> 
> '69 442
> '72 Grand Prix
> 
> --
> ---------------------
> Daniel R. Gerow
> Computer Support
> Systems Administrator
> Stonehill College
> 320 Washington Street
> Easton, MA 02357
> dgerow@stonehill.edu
> ---------------------
Dan,

I had a '67 442 with a 425 and Turbo 400.  Don't know how the 425 got
there, but it kicked.  Also, the rear axle was a 3:55 posi...ran strong
and was nice on the highway.  It was a hard top, not a coupe and I took
off the vynal(?sp) top as I preferred the look of the lines on the hard
top.  Watch out for rust behind the rear window and in fron of the trunk
lid.  Mine was an Illinois car and we salt everything from December to
April, beware of rust around the rear portion of the car.  Otherwise,
she had power brakes, steering and a console.  If not for the
bondo(looked nice painted, but needed to be retouched) and the auto
trans, I'd still be driving it.  I think the '67 is the best lookin of
the '64-'67 crowd(I also had a '66 f85).  I love my '65, but it is more
of a transitional body style from the early sixties factory racers to
the sleek-topped '66&'67's.  Good luck finding one in rust free
condition.

Paul

'65 442 4-speed

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:36:37 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Wheel adapters

Dave;
Did a set on a different make, turned out real nice. Welded the new studs
to the back side of the flange rather then try to machine the little
splines in it. Much cheaper. Did have adapters on the front and hit a hard
bump and the tire hit the frt. fender lip. Didn't hurt the tire but tore up
the fender pretty good. Any good machine shop can do it.
Lou
- ---------
> From: Wyatt <Wyatt@jobax.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Wheel adapters
> The load on those little plates is tremendous and I did not trust them to
hold up
> very long.  Dad had a set on a dune buggy with no problems, but it was a
whole
> bunch lighter than the 55.  Your truck is no light weight either.
> I would suggest having the drums and axles drilled to accept the 5 bolt
pattern.
> It might cost a little more, but it will be safe.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:39:58 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

>I received a request from the Make a Wish Foundation.

No you didn't.

>There is a 17 year old boy named Craig Sheffield.

No there isn't.

>He has terminal cancer.

No he doesn't.

Okay, you get the point. This one is so old it's got whiskers on it. Let's 
just stop it right here. You can check with any representative of the 
Make-a-Wish Foundation on this one; here is one official statement on the 
matter, from http://www.wish.org/missouri/chain_letter.htm:

>The chain letter that is still circulating about a
>sick child named Craig Shergold, Sherwood or Shurford
>who is requesting business cards is a hoax. Craig, now
>17, is alive and well in England and has not made such
>a request. This solicitation is not connected with Make-A-Wish,
>even though some of the letters include our name. Please
>stop the chain if it comes across your desk. Callers may
>listen to a message explanation by calling the Make-A-Wish
>of America at 1-800-215-1333, ext. 184.

- -- Andy


_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:53:40 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

I guess some people got nothing better to do than to start crap like this.
Damn near got me.

Omega Man





At 12:39 PM 5/27/99 PDT, you wrote:
>>I received a request from the Make a Wish Foundation.
>
>No you didn't.
>
>>There is a 17 year old boy named Craig Sheffield.
>
>No there isn't.
>
>>He has terminal cancer.
>
>No he doesn't.
>
>Okay, you get the point. This one is so old it's got whiskers on it. Let's 
>just stop it right here. You can check with any representative of the 
>Make-a-Wish Foundation on this one; here is one official statement on the 
>matter, from http://www.wish.org/missouri/chain_letter.htm:
>
>>The chain letter that is still circulating about a
>>sick child named Craig Shergold, Sherwood or Shurford
>>who is requesting business cards is a hoax. Craig, now
>>17, is alive and well in England and has not made such
>>a request. This solicitation is not connected with Make-A-Wish,
>>even though some of the letters include our name. Please
>>stop the chain if it comes across your desk. Callers may
>>listen to a message explanation by calling the Make-A-Wish
>>of America at 1-800-215-1333, ext. 184.
>
>-- Andy
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
>

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:00:47 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

Ed;
A worthwhile cause, see, this should be posted. We cannot be that rigid.
Lou
PS One is on its way
- ----------
> From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Off topic but important
> Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 2:01 PM
> 
> I'll send him a couple.
> 
> Omega Man
> 
> 
> At 02:49 PM 5/27/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >I received a request from the Make a Wish Foundation. There is a 17 year
old
> >boy named Craig Sheffield. He has terminal cancer. His wish is to get
into
> >the Guiness Book of World Records before he dies. He is attempting to do
> >this by collecting the largest collection of business cards in the
world.
> >Sounds easy except that there can be no duplication. I am sending one of
> >mine as well as six others that I've come by. If you can help, send your
> >business card (and others also) to:
> >
> >Craig Shefford
> >c/o Children's Perimeter Center East
> >3200 Perimeter Center
> >Atlanta, GA  30345
> >
> >This is not from spam. I am the original generator of this message. I
got it
> >from a fellow member of the Middlesboro Ministerial Association. I send
it
> >to this list because I have seen the kind of people that are members. I
hope
> >this off-topic post does not offend anyone. If you can pass this message
to
> >others (people you know, no spamming) who you feel might help. I would
> >greatly appreciate it. Time is of the essence. God bless you.
> >Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:02:49 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

GOT ME FOR SURE.
Lou

- ----------
> From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Off topic but important
> Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 2:53 PM
> 
> I guess some people got nothing better to do than to start crap like
this.
> Damn near got me.
> 
> Omega Man
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:39 PM 5/27/99 PDT, you wrote:
> >>I received a request from the Make a Wish Foundation.
> >
> >No you didn't.
> >
> >>There is a 17 year old boy named Craig Sheffield.
> >
> >No there isn't.
> >
> >>He has terminal cancer.
> >
> >No he doesn't.
> >
> >Okay, you get the point. This one is so old it's got whiskers on it.
Let's 
> >just stop it right here. You can check with any representative of the 
> >Make-a-Wish Foundation on this one; here is one official statement on
the 
> >matter, from http://www.wish.org/missouri/chain_letter.htm:
> >
> >>The chain letter that is still circulating about a
> >>sick child named Craig Shergold, Sherwood or Shurford
> >>who is requesting business cards is a hoax. Craig, now
> >>17, is alive and well in England and has not made such
> >>a request. This solicitation is not connected with Make-A-Wish,
> >>even though some of the letters include our name. Please
> >>stop the chain if it comes across your desk. Callers may
> >>listen to a message explanation by calling the Make-A-Wish
> >>of America at 1-800-215-1333, ext. 184.
> >
> >-- Andy
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________
> >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
> >

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:17:38 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

In hindsight, I didn't mean to flame the poster personally, but please, 
folks, regardless of whether or not the topic is Olds related (I'm not 
getting into _that_ one again :-) if you're just forwarding something that 
came to you from elsewhere, at least make some sort of effort to verify it 
first. A simple AltaVista search will turn up tons of references on this 
one.

A more thorough explanation of this hoax and all its variants can be found 
right off the Make-A-Wish Foundation's main web page -- these chain letters 
have qualified for their very own link now -- at:

http://www.wish.org/home/frame_chainletters.htm

Okay, back to Olds now!  :-)

- -- Andy


_______________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:40:26 -0500
From: "Peter Landowski" <PETTRIX@prodigy.net>
Subject: Alternators

I bought an AC Delco alternator and it had a bad internal voltage
regulator.  I thought AC Delco was the top of the line alternator. Why is
there not a company that can make a new and reliable alternator anymore?

Pettrix@prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:44:31 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: OK, An Olds post for a change

In an attempt to keep this from turning into the "Off Topic" list I've got
a few Olds related requests.

I need for a '74 2dr Omega the following. (All must be nice)

2 rear bumpers
1 front bumper
2 sets of tail light trim
1 set of tail light lenses
2 sets of license plate hole trim
2 front fenders
1 fiberglass front grill piece
black interior panels for a hatchback
2 sets of Omega S side stripes. (email if you want a pic of what they look
like)
Any emblems whatsoever
Thats about it off the top of my head

And anything else that belongs on a '74 Omega is considered too. 

If anyone should happen to go yarding around anytime soon, keep any eye
open and let me know if you find anything. 

Thanks and take care

Omega Man
'74 Omega S 455/auto
'74 Omega 455/4spd (someday)

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:56:49 -0700
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: New Olds'

List,
	I was just looking over the new cars available by Olds and while
browsing thru the web pages, I didn't see that any were available with a
manual transmission.  Does Olds make ~any~ car now available with a manual
transmission?  I'm a die hard stick shift guy, and hate to see the automatic
transmission as the only option in cars now.

Steve Reed
Austin, TX

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:57:00 -0500
From: "Hitson, Roger" <HITSOR@mail.dmh.state.mo.us>
Subject: WOT :-)

A newbie on the Toro list was having trouble with common acronyms. He said
he asked his wife what she thought WOT meant, 'cause she was a more
experienced internet user. After pondering the question, she replied she
thought it might mean "wife out of town" (I think she's been in too many
chat rooms). When the guy posted this back to the Toro list, somebody else
replied that it didn't mean that, but probably did occur more often when
wife out of town.

Well, I thought it was funny.

roger

 

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:16:16 -0700
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Surface rust on PSI plate

List,
	I was looking at my pressure plate this week, and since it has been
in the garage it has developed some surface rust.  Besides using
scotchbrite, what grit sand paper would you suggest to remove this surface
rust?  I have not yet tried using scotchbrite, but would like to hear any
advice anyone might have.

Thanx!

Steve Reed
Austin, TX

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:22:17 +0200
From: Trond-Jarle Pedersen <olds69@online.no>
Subject: carburator q

evening olds nuts.
a friend of mine has a 403 (79)
this baby needs a new carb.
he ordered from a local parts store and got a holly 4011
didn't fit w the ram air.
so he sent it back.
now he is ordering a stock replacement
only thing is that the parts clerk says its for an 79 tornado??
her is the number:17059253 (there is also another nr:1649b7a)
soooooo could you please tell me abut this.
the clerk said it was a 725cfm for a tornado ???

Trond

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:35:36 -0400
From: "Dan" <dsm137@gti.net>
Subject: Re: New '67 Cutlass Convert. owner

Welcome to the '67 convertible club!!!! The things I would watch for would
be the upper radiator hose and the belts. I would definitely bring extra's
along with me. Also points and distrubutor cap & rotor might not be a bad
idea to carry around and also some tools to put these items on if necessary.
Make sure to check the upper hose often, as it tends to rub on the fan
shroud and maybe the alternator mounts. Good luck!!!
Dan
1967 Cutlass Convertible.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Pont4Door@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 10:43 PM
Subject: New '67 Cutlass Convert. owner


> Hello listers...
>
> I have just purchased a 1967 Cutlass Convertible...75,000mi, Jetaway, p/s,
> and cold fact. air.
>
> I will be taking delivery of the auto mid June.  It is in Pennsylvania,
> though a Fla car, and I am in San Francisco.
>
> My question to the experts is thus...
>
> What should I look for prior to making the cross country drive?  I am
> interested in any known weak spots for this auto.  It appears to be in
> overall great shape, NO rust, straight body, mint interior, very well
taken
> care of.  Still, (expletive) happens.
>
> I appreciate any and all info, and look fwd. to utilizing this mailing
list
> fully.
>
> Cheers...Stephen Sims
>
> 1962 Pontiac Starchief Four Door Vista (was little old lady's car)
> 1986 Olds Cutlass Cruiser (Sally Suburban)
> Soon 1967 Olds Cutlass Convertible...ROAD TRIP !!!!!!
>

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