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oldsmobile-digest        Sunday, May 16 1999        Volume 01 : Number 1960



Re: My clock is alive!
C.B. Witt, Olds Homecoming, blah blah blah was: Intro, items available
Re: Intro, items available
Gainsville track
Control Arm Bushes (was:front end clunk)
Re: What went wrong?
Re: Intro, items available
Power Window Blues
Thank You Linda Vaughn.................
Re: UNBOUNCE: Who repairs Delco radios?
Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors
That you Dan? was: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors
Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors
Re: Control Arm Bushes (was:front end clunk)
Re: Wasps! (Don't try this!)
Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors
Wanted: Olds W/ Stick Shift
Re: Power Window Blues
Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors
Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors
Harmonic Damper
X-man Bolt Snapped! :(
trunk lid emblem install?
Olds items 5/99, exc. Literature
Re: H*LP - Engine noise
Re: trunk lid emblem install?
misc., wasps, sounds, lower ends
Re: X-man Bolt Snapped! :(
test, ignore me!
More Noises -- Engine, Tranny?
Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.
Re: X-man Bolt Snapped! :(
Re: Just Wondering
Hood Alignment Tips
Re: trunk lid emblem install?
Olds Literature 5/99
Re: Wasps! (Don't try this!)

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:51:34 EDT
From: LOUS69W30@aol.com
Subject: Re: My clock is alive!

In a message dated 5/15/99 11:12:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mbloomer@mindspring.com writes:

<< I tried it and it shook the clock a 
 couple times and it started ticking.  Hallelujah!   >>
Good job Mike.  Its amazing the little things that will make us happy.

Lou Principe
69 442 W-30

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:52:49 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: C.B. Witt, Olds Homecoming, blah blah blah was: Intro, items available

Hi Chris!

<< I am currently negotiating the purchase of a Harley Davidson, so if I can
 unload a few items I may get to KEEP the HD too. Consequently, you readers 
may
 take 50% off the prices I have put forth as reasonable asking prices, thru 
say
 6/30/99 anyhow. I got about 100 items worth mentioning, another 100 piddly
 items, and about 10ft of shop manuals. >>

We missed you so much that...well, Greg Rollins and Ken Snyder went to the 
digest, if not entirely unsubbing.
If that tells you anything.

Also need to mention to all that if Chris does not have, he prolly knows 
about it and mebbe where to get. I am sure there are enough needs to keep you 
in Harley land.
(potatoe-potatoe-potatoe-potatoe!  whee!)

Incidentally, SOM and Karl will be near the Witt homestead in Lansing for the 
Oldsmobile Homecoming on June 19th(?) and are dying to see what goodies 
you'll be offering this year. It's still held near the Power & Light building?

And if Karl fails to buy stuff that he needs before 6/30/99, it is because 
there is this other swap meet in Texas the week following Homecoming! Joy!

Also, for the recently added members, Mr. Witt is recognized and respected by 
many of the older listmembers, and many, including Karl have enjoyed doing 
buisiness with him.

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:56:22 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Intro, items available

Chris,

Bring on da parts.

Mark Hahn
75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
Cincinnati, Ohio

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:56:40 -0400
From: "B. Vosburgh" <bob442@svic.net>
Subject: Gainsville track

Hey guys , got the motor back together we had to sleeve # 4 cyl. and new
after market rods. car ran flaw less last night it ran 11.58 1st run .
any way, I ran threw the competition and took home the trophy. if my
math is right it should have put me in first place on points.Last week I
ran the mini van and ran, get this 3 rounds. any way i hope the olds
gods where looking down on me when I put the motor together this time .I
will put some street miles on it this week and open her up next
weekend.    Butch  68   442   post

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:57:26 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Control Arm Bushes (was:front end clunk)

Where would "shims" be in the control arms, and how could I tell if some
were missing?

And how much would I expect to pay a good mechanic to replace control arm
bushings on both wheels? From what I've seen here on the list, it's not
something I would try myself on a weekend.

Thanks folks.

drc

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:04:07 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: What went wrong?

Hot plugs could give you ping, but more likely it's timing. Setting points
gap changed your timing, you gotta go back and check it.

Didja leave the vacuum line off the advance?
Drop a Gummy Bear in the distributor?

drc

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:10:22 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Intro, items available

Welcome back. Your name comes up whenever the list gets outa hand ("Where's
Chris W when you need him?").

drc

- --------------------------------------------------
>I am cynical and will not hesitate to call on the carpet anyone who claims
>their 307 makes 478 HP [it HAS happened here...].


Yuh, mine only makes 450 ;-)

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:25:50 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Power Window Blues

My driver's side power window keeps comming off the track. Had it apart
twice already, gotta do it again today.

grrrrrrrr...POS

Thing is, I don't see anything wrong in there. Replaced the plastic clip
that holds the rearward edge into the channel, and even replaced the channel
itself. The front edge guide looks perfect, but somehow the window comes out
of it then gets jammed against its side.

What the hell am I missing here? It just doesn't look that complicated.

drc

4 door 85 Delta.

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:24:24 -0400
From: "Mike Dziadik" <dziadik@mindspring.com>
Subject: Thank You Linda Vaughn.................

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Just thought I'd share this...........

I went to the drag races with the mission to finally meet Linda Vaughn =
if by chance she was there.=20

Well she was so I finally got that chance yesterday at the Southern =
National's Drag Race in Comerce, Ga. She is really a class act. One of =
the nicest people you'll ever meet. Funny too. Her mom was also there.

My son and I had our pictures taken with her, and a little bit later, as =
I had worn my Oldsmobile Centennial shirt I bought at Lansing, I had her =
sign my shirt while I was wearing it, and my son took a picture. She was =
so funny. She commented that "That was the right kind of shirt to be =
wearing", and then when she was signing the shirt she goes "Oh, this =
little guys heart is going a mile a minute. Must be a 4 speed". She =
asked if I saw her in Lansing, and asked if I was going to the various =
Olds Performance Nationals that were happing this Summer.

I had meant to bring my recent copy of JWO that had the Hurst Hairy Olds =
and a photo of her w/ Gentleman Joe to sign and had left in such a hurry =
I forgot it. I'd also thought about bringing my Hurst Hairy Olds model =
for her to sign. Oh, well maybe next time.

If you ever get a chance to meet her, defintely do it. For those of you =
who have you already know how nice she is.

When the photos are done and scanned I'll post them on my site.

Mike (from the digest) Dziadik
dziadik@mindspring.com


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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:33:20 -0700
From: tarzan@foxinternet.net
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Who repairs Delco radios?

HI,
There is an ac delco radio repair shop in seattle. i think its on lake
union. DAN

Greg Beaulieu wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:   Frank Iezzi <fiezzi@gcfn.org>
> Subject: Who repairs Delco radios?
>
> Olds friends,
> Does anyone have first hand info on who repairs Delco radios?
> Any help greatly appreciated.  I have a stereo radio, but one
> channel (side) is out...
> Thanks in advance for any help/info!
> Frank Iezzi
> Columbus OH
> OCA 5594
> 69 Cutlass 'S' W-31
> and others

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:40:18 -0700
From: tarzan@foxinternet.net
Subject: Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors

HI YA JAMES,
what kind of price do you want for the 70 olds 442 carb? let me know,im
interested,DAN

James244@aol.com wrote:

> I have a 70 442 carb for sale, it needs to be rebuilt and has a heli-coil in
> the fuel inlet. The carb # is 7040251, The Mirrors are in good shape and have
> had the old paint removed, with all screws & bolts for installation. Please
> email me for more info at James244@aol.com
>
> Thanks
> James Newton
> 69 442 4 spd
> 86 442

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:56:38 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: That you Dan? was: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors

Hi Dan!

Sorry, I just dont answer the Qjet@aol.com mail as often as I should as it 
means logging on under a different name = a separate telephone call.

<<  The carb # is 7040251, >>

You had the 1975 carb, right?
The carb# 7040251 is listed in my big ACDelco book as being correct for the 
plain old 455cid cars, with 7040255 for 4 4 2's with 350 and 7040253 in 4 4 
2's with 455cid. The W-30 cars had 7040256 for MT and 7040258 for AT. A W-33 
got 7040257.

Now, the -251 carb could mean a dealer-optioned Cutlass 4 4 2, if that was 
possible in 1970.

And of course, as it is for a 455, it should work well on a genuine 4 4 2's 
455.

But that's just what I think.

And I am not an expert.

K

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:04:04 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors

Sorry, gang!

Warnt paying attention.

<< I have a 70 442 carb for sale, it needs to be rebuilt and has a heli-coil 
in the fuel inlet. The carb # is 7040251 >>

Nope.
Both the FAQ and the ACDelco bulletin karl is looking at now says it ain't so.
All ordinary non-Toro 455 got 7045251
Toro was -252
4 4 2 was -255 and -253 (350 and 455 respectively)
W-30s were -256 MT and -258 AT
W-33 was -257

Now the car could have been a dealer-option 4 4 2, if that was possible in 
1970.
But that still dont make it a 4 4 2 carb.

Because the performance carbs are different.
7040255 and 7040256 do not have power pistons or metering rods.
Just a slight difference, huh?

Sorry, din't mean to harsh on anyone.
Just happens that documentation exists for this hallucination.

Good morning.

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:24:15 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Control Arm Bushes (was:front end clunk)

____I________I_____    -------control arm shaft   the two uprights are the
bolts the shims should be
v                                        v          on the bolts a few on
each you can see them under the hood
  v                                     v
    v                                  v
       v                              v
          v                         v
             v                     v
                v                 v
                    v            v
                       v       v
                          v  v
                            O --- Ball joint









- ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Cullen <david.cullen@snet.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 7:57 AM
Subject: Control Arm Bushes (was:front end clunk)


> Where would "shims" be in the control arms, and how could I tell if some
> were missing?
>
> And how much would I expect to pay a good mechanic to replace control arm
> bushings on both wheels? From what I've seen here on the list, it's not
> something I would try myself on a weekend.
>
> Thanks folks.
>
> drc
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:46:46 -0400
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Wasps! (Don't try this!)

Matt Cremean wrote:

> Bob Valentine wrote:
> >
> > drop them INSTANTLY, and you get to watch them wiggle & die for about 5
> > minutes.   Light'em up for more fun!
>
> Wow, what a great list to be on, huh? list. Bob, you're a sick man! Just
> kiddin. I thought it was pretty funny myself! *bzzzzzzz* *splash* *help
> me help me!* *death!* :-)

Well, as long as we're takin' up BW on this...a long time ago when I was
young and more stupid than I am now, I discovered the coolest, most exciting,
and most dangerous method for flying insect removal.  Fill up a pump sprayer
that can shoot a long stream with gasoline.  Hold a lighter, such as a Zippo,
in front of it and you've got one MEAN flamethrower!  You can blow wasps,
yellowjackets, bees...any flying insect...out of the air instantly.  Leaves
them writhing on the ground, scorched and wingless.  I've taken out whole
wasps nests in broad daylight in very short order.  Of course, when the
nozzle of your sprayer catches fire...well, let's just say don't let that
happen.

BTW, I've grown up and am much kinder and gentler.  I wouldn't ever recommend
this.  I, especially, would never use it for getting rid of wasps in your
Olds.  Tennis ball cannons with tennis balls doused in lighter fluid wouldn't
be smart, either. :-)  This public service announcement has been brought to
you by:
- --
Thomas P. Smith
  1971 Cutlass S: 350 Rocket/TH350/Edelbrock OL4B/dual exhaust/
        sometimes Q-Jet, sometimes Holley/Mallory Unilite Conversion.
  1988 Plymouth Voyager 3.0:  Ummm...Let me think of something.

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:08:14 EDT
From: James244@aol.com
Subject: Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors

Hi ya Dan,
First, Karl is correct in the fact that it is a 70 455 carb, not a 442 carb. 
I messed up and didn't check my list before I made the post. If you are still 
interested, I'll take $100 for the carb. I'm also open to trades or partial 
trades.
Thanks
James

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:08:54 -0400
From: Howie <qcquad@cuny.campuscwix.net>
Subject: Wanted: Olds W/ Stick Shift

If anyone knows of a 65 to 73 Cutlass with a stick for sale please
reply. Condition is not a factor, actually the worse the better (I've
been known to save many a car from the crusher).
Howie.

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:55:32 -0500
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Power Window Blues

>My driver's side power window keeps comming off the track. Had it apart 
>twice already, gotta do it again today.

Did you buy the car like that, or is this a problem that has only recently
developed?

Do you have manuals?  It might not help (although detailed, the drawings
are definately not photographs), but then again it couldn't hurt.

Is the spacer at the top of the door (with the black fuzzy stuff that runs
against the inside of the window) adjusted correctly (I can't describe
"correctly", but I know it when I see it)?

If all else fails, I would suggest going to a junkyard, finding an 85 Delta
4-door that no one has torn apart yet, and taking pictures and detailed
notes.  If you're REALLY hardcore, take a battery with you and use it to
run the window motors.  Alternatively, you could just take the other side
apart, although then you have to a) reverse everything in your mind, which
may not be that big of a deal, and b) put it back together, which
definately IS a big deal.  Just remember, 2-doors are MUCH worse.

>grrrrrrrr...POS

Now now!

>What the hell am I missing here? It just doesn't look that complicated.

Oh brother, if I had a dollar...
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Brian Ammons             ICQ - 3585737
MIS Major - UT Austin  b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu
2903 Breeze Terrace    http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ammons/
Austin, TX 78722          Home:	 (512) 236-8088 (Austin)
                                              (713) 776-2110 (Houston)
1984 Oldsmobile          Pager:	 (512) 483-8056
	Delta 88  RB                   (713) 318-5938
		4-door
"The Party Barge"
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:11:53 EDT
From: James244@aol.com
Subject: Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors

Thank you for catching my goof up Karl, I forgot to check my list before I 
made the post. This is a standard 70 455 MT or AT carb (#7040251).
Regards
James Newton 

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:59:54 -0500
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: 70 442 carb for sale & 70 Sport Mirrors

SOM wrote:
>Nope.
>Both the FAQ and the ACDelco bulletin karl is looking at now says it ain't
so.
>All ordinary non-Toro 455 got 7045251
>Toro was -252
>4 4 2 was -255 and -253 (350 and 455 respectively)
>W-30s were -256 MT and -258 AT
>W-33 was -257

Now, I don't know jack about carbs, but the above is troubling...in 1970,
you couldn't get a 350 in a 442.

>
>Now the car could have been a dealer-option 4 4 2, if that was possible in 
>1970.
>But that still dont make it a 4 4 2 carb.

Again, no dealer-optioned 442s.  But is it POSSIBLE that you're looking at
a 1972 datasheet?
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Ammons             ICQ - 3585737
MIS Major - UT Austin  b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu
2903 Breeze Terrace    http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ammons/
Austin, TX 78722          Home:	 (512) 236-8088 (Austin)
                                              (713) 776-2110 (Houston)
1984 Oldsmobile          Pager:	 (512) 483-8056
	Delta 88  RB                   (713) 318-5938
		4-door
"The Party Barge"
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:11:58 -0400
From: Howie <qcquad@cuny.campuscwix.net>
Subject: Harmonic Damper

I need to change the balancer on a friend's non-Olds. The trick is that
it has no center bolt to pull it down. Can anyone recommend a way to get
it on with out beating the blazes out of it?
Thanks
Howie

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:16:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: X-man Bolt Snapped! :(

Subject line says it all... trying to replace the leaky x-man gasket on
the Delta today. Passenger side, center bolt was not moving. Doused it
with penetrant, waited an hour, then snapped the !@#$%^%#@! thing,
probably flush with the head from the look of it. This despite being a new
bolt 7-8 months ago when the thing was replaced and my explicit
instructions to the mechanics to use anti-seize ("Oh yeah, we always do
that!"). No evidence of same. 

How badly screwed am I? Is it possible to get one of these out with the
head still on the motor in the car? Can't see how you'd get a drill in
there for an easy-out. I feel absolutely cursed with this thing!
Grumble...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
   --- Olds List Admin Instructions at: http://oldslist.tsx.org ---
             &  http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner/listfaq.htm

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: trunk lid emblem install?

  I'm in need of some suggestions of how to install my Cutlass emblem
on my trunklid.  I have no idea how to get the retainer clips in the
back.  This is a 1970 Cutlass 'S'.  I was thinking of shooting silicone
in the holes and a thin layer on the back of the emblem.  If you've put
one of these emblems on, I sure would like to hear how you did it.

Thanks,
  Stefan
  1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
  70Cutlass@Beer.com
_____________________________________________________________
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Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:43:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Olds items 5/99, exc. Literature

>>>>>>   Rocket Science List of Goodies newly available 5/99  <<<<<<
SALE - SALE - Thru 6/30/99, TAKE 50% OFF the PRICES SHOWN !!! SALE - SALE

Abbreviations: NOS = New Old Stock; WNOS = Shelf Worn NOS;
RNOS= Rusty NOS. DNOS= Dirty NOS.
New = No evidence of use or installation, may not be true GM part. ,
"~" = about, approximately.
UBU = Used, but Still Usable, a core to rebuild; needs less work, you win.
VA = Vacuum Advance model # and degrees of advance.
VLU= Very little Use- shows signs of installation, but promises long life.
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Arranged more or less alphabetically by Item, exc. w/ Radios listed last.
"YEAR" is best guess based on information available.
.
Price-Year-Cond-Item, Desc. etc.
.
10  ??  NOS  ??, P/N? 32251, looks like transistor, on bakelite mount.
                2-flat terms. "T-O-D 32251 C-J 4 F53 48T"
20 many Used AC compressors, long style, quantity 2.
60 77-8 NOS  AIR PUMP, on board leveling system, w/ brkt. 2 flat terminals.
               5044864  PN on label, & "213"
100 <74 Used ALTERNATOR, ext. reg. type. NO NUMBERS: any application.
40 <69? NOS? ALTERNATOR, ext. reg., 1100680, 42A, ink date 9A21,
                "4E20" stamped. No pulley.
10 many NOS  BEARING RACE, Front Wheel Bearing, F85. S6.
10 many NOS  BEARING, App'n?, w/ race.  "LM 48548" ? and "48510" race.
10 many NOS  BEARING, front wheel, NDH brand.  "M12649", 21.4 x 50mm.
10 many NOS  BEARING, front wheel, with race.  "M12649"
10  ?   New  BELT, 13T351, Make?, app'n ?  Small, skinny
10  ?   New  BELT, GM 399591, Make?, app'n ?  "MM W2K"
10  ?   New  BELT, GM 9433674, Dayco, app'n ?  380 x 62mm
10  ?   New  BELT.  0.380 x 60.0, "GM 9433670 CY DAYCO 5-9773 4:M:10"
10  ?   New  BELT.  0.380 x 52.5, "GM 9433655 CH DAYCO 5-7778 3:K-1"
10 <76  NOS  BOLT, battery hold-down. 5/16"-18 NC x 9.8" long,
                T shaped lower end.
30 66   NOS  BUSHINGS, rubber, set of 4, Toronado rear spring mount.
10  ?  WNOS  BUTTON, "Rear Release", yellow button, electrical, w/ bracket.
10 >73? NOS  BUZZER?, 6 blade terminals, 14036201.  1x2.8x2.5"
40  ?  WNOS  CANISTER, CO2, for inflating SPace Save spare tire, before
               "Temporary Use" spares. Gr. 5.880, date 3/78?, 9.0 oz.
200 69  NOS  CARB, 2V, #7029156. 1969 350-2V, all exc. Still has air horn
               protector. GASKET with SLOTS factory installed! PROOF!
300 ??  NNOS CARB, Holley 4V 650? spread-bore double pumper
50  73  Fair CARB, Qjet #7043252-3482-RC= '73 Toronado 455. CJ sec. rods.
40 70's Used CLOCK, P/N 2632172 on label, analog dial type. 2.2x4.4" hole
               w/ 1x0.2" arc in top.  "2858029" stamped in steel back.
40 70's WNOS CLOCK, P/N XJ2872546 on label, "Regency" analog with odometer
               type digits. 2.1x3.6" hole.
20 misc used COMPRESSION gage, antique- "Hastings Steel-Vent" by Peerless
               Instrument Co.
20  ?  Used  COURTESY LAMP ASS'Y, Toronado, overhead.  Large center lite &
               2 switched side spots.
20 78? WNOS  COURTESY LITE, under dash, w/ all wire.
200 73? NOS  CRUISE CONTROL kit, P/N 983374. Toronado, w/ inst's [413973].
               "Gr. 3.880", w/ all parts: stalk, on/off sw., brkts, etc.
50 72?  NOS  CRUISE MODULE. Cnxns: Speedo cables, vacuum, electric.
               P/N "25030560 11990P RB"
200 68  UBU  DIST'R, 1111468-8D15 = 1968 400 AT all incl. W30  Bronze paint.
120 69  UBU  DIST'R, 1111932-9B5 = 969 400 HC SMT exc. W30 No paint left.
               VA=210-16 [should be 408-12]
50  71  UBU  DIST'R, 1112033-1M13:1971 or 2? 455 (exc. E-body [Toro])
               Tuneup label OD,OF,OG,OJ,OK. VA=408-24
60  72  UBU  DIST'R, 1112106-1L12 = 1972 350 exc. QJ,Qk,QD. VA=407-24
100 73? UBU  DIST'R, CHEVY, big block? 1112097-3C15: 1973 Core, tight, oily.
               Next # up is Corvette
10  ?  Used  DRIER, A/C, sealed.
40 73+  NOS  EGR Valve, "4720 CDU 17084720-266-32N"
60  ?   NOS  FAN CLUTCH, thermo, very HD. Code "OM", 1.5" offset.
10 <68 RNOS  FILTER, PCV, fits pre-68 Rocker arm covers Some ext'l rust,
               ok inside.
1  many NOS  FITTINGS, vacuum, misc.  Some w/ orifice [red T's].
150 <67 NOS  FLASHER kit. Flarestat, 4-way, add on to pre-67 cars. New In Box.
               Inst's for F85/ Full Size/ Toronado.  Gr. 2.575, P/N 982703.
10  ?   NOS  FUSE, A/C system, 6551258.  3-flat terms
10 ~78? New  GASKET, door mirror, 9829670,  Black, rubbery.
50 many NOS  GROUND STRAP, body to engine.
20  ?  DNOS  HARNESS, wire, trailering?  Cnxns: Flat-4x-round terms,
               T-4x-blade, Round-4x-blade, Loose White gnd wire.
20  ?  DNOS  HARNESS, wire, trailering? 8779440  Cnxns: Flat-4x-round terms,
               T-2x-blade male, T-2x-blade Fem., T-2x-blade, Loose Wh gnd wire.

20  ?   ??   HARNESS, wire, trailering? 9821248
10 76?  NOS  HARNESS, wiring, PSeat? ~55" long, with on-off-on momentary
               switch w/ round chrome stalk.  w/ VHD relay "527362" stamped
               in brkt, "6196" inked [day 196 of 1976?]
40  ?   NOS  HEATER CONTROL VALVE, hot coolant flow, vacuum operated,
               "77-18-3" 1" threads, 5/8" hose nipple @ 90 degrees, vac. port.
40  ?   NOS  HEATER CONTROL VALVE.  3/4" threads, 5/8" nipple, 4x5.5" OAD.
30  ?   NOS  HEATER, engine block, 120V AC.  Fits 1.5" freeze plug hole.
10  ?   NOS  HOLE FILLER, decorative, round, silver plastic. 1-7/8" hole.
50 70s  NOS  HOOD ORNAMENT, Toronado, 1.4 x 3.5" "T" in wings in clear
                plastic. 416329 base, "1-42062".
10 many NOS  HOSE PROTECTOR, AC, Foam rubber.  About 5" long.
20 >64? NOS  KICKDOWN SWITCH, TH400, mounts on interior throttle bracket.
               2 terminals, one mount bolt.
10 77?  NOS  KNOBS, washer, heater control, set of 3.
20 80?  New  KNOCK SENSOR?, 0144 C95N.  2-flat terms
20 80?  New  KNOCK SENSOR?, xxxx C95N.  1-flat term
10 71?  NOS  LAMP HOLDER, front side marker w/ wire and connector.
20  ?   NOS  LIGHT ASS'Y, license plate, 1.25" square lens, mtg holes
               2.75" OC. 5964785 molded in, "GM 4B SAE L73"
40 68-9 NOS  LIGHT ASS'Y, pair, rear side marker, B, C, E? Body. Bezel, lens,
               and lamp holders. "400841" bezel, 5960194 red lens.
40 many NOS  LIGHT ASS'Y, Underhood, w/conn'r & wire.
10 78?  NOS  LIGHTER & SOCKET, Round terminal.
10 71?  NOS  LIGHTER, element & knob.  Chrome grooved knob 15mm dia.
               by 17mm long.
10 ??   New  LIGHTER SOCKET.  2-flat terms.
30 81?  NOS  MAP SENSOR?, 1-vacuum port, 3 round elec. terms.
30 81?  NOS  MAP SENSOR?, 1-vacuum port, 3 round electrical terminals.
               "790 1325" [325th day of 1981?]
20  ?   NOS  MIRROR GLASS, stick-on, "Objects in mirror are closer than
               they appear"  ~7x3.25" ovalish w/ slant
200  ? Good  MIRROR, Chrome bullet shape, like 69 H/O style, but all chrome.
                Has one scratch.
40 78? Used  MIRROR, LH, remote, blue. Needs oil, still moves.
10  ?  Used  MIRROR, R. View, 2x11.5" glass, imperfect silvering.
100 >75 NOS  MIRRORS, Pair, sport style. LH is remote.  Gray primer,
               21" cable. Metric studs 3" OC
30 >74  NOS  MODULE, ignition, HEI type.
20 all  New  OIL PRESSURE SENDER, usual Olds type.
20  ?   NOS  OXYGEN SENSOR, "AFS-5P", 2-wire.  "X5412A" stamped in.
20  ?   NOS  OXYGEN SENSOR, 2-wire, AFS-16P.  "O3772V" stamped in.
20 >74  UBU  PICKUP COIL, HEI type, 6-cylinder.
20 78?  NOS  PITMAN ARM, with swivel joint, 1978? Cutlass? "7805916",
                4.75" c-c, 2.5x7" OADims. 9/16" thread on taper.
20 76?  NOS  PLATE, Instrument panel, Toronado, LH. Wood-like finish.
                6.2 x 8". Holes: Vent, Wipers, Fan, AC-Cntrls, Lites, Cruise.
20  ?    ?   POA VALVE, 2 lg, 3 small ports [2 of the 3 capped].
                ~1.8" dia. x 7" long
20 68?  NOS  POA VALVE, Frigidair 24 2 27 70 / 0668, 5910594. In orig. box.
                Label 1/2 gone, PN ended in "...52"
60  ?   Used POWER ANTENNA, 4-wire, Hex tip, 021775.  No nut or
                body mate parts.
60 >75? Used POWER ANTENNA, 4-wire, recessed threads, no bezel, extended.
60 >75? Used POWER ANTENNA, 4-wire, w/ connector. No motor cover. No body
                panel mate pc, bezel broke off.
20 66-7? Used RADIO KNOBS, misc., 3ea "Music/ Bass/ Voice" outer,
                Blank outer, Inner.
20 ~78? NOS  RADIO KNOBS, set of 6; 2 outer, 2 plain inner,
                2 very ornate inner.
10  ?   NOS  RELAY, for AC system? #547138-0269
10  ?   NOS  RELAY, for AC system? #547138-0269
10 '78? NOS  RELAY, VHD, 3-sm & 3-lg blade terms. "556551" & "8332" on bracket.
               Silver case 1.5x1.5x2.3"
10 ??   NOS  RESISTOR ass'y, HVAC blower speed regulating. Toronado?
               2.5 x 2.5" overall, 4 terminals.
10  ?   NOS  RESISTOR, HVAC blower speed regulating.
10  ?  Used  RESISTOR, HVAC blower speed regulating.
10  ?   NOS  RINGS, fuel tank sending unit fastening. 2.0" size, w/ one O-ring.

20  ?  DNOS  ROTOR, alternator, light surface rust. "F67 565"
20  ?   VLU  ROTOR, alternator, looks perfect.
20 76?  NOS  SEAL, 3633329, front wheel bearing?, Toronado?  Gr. 6.326
10  ?   New  SEAL, 46 x 65 mm, NS 403203
10  ?   NOS  SEAL, 47.5 x 70mm
10  ?   NOS  SEAL, CR brand, 19753, 1.93 x 2.56 x .20"  P/N 19735 or -53??
                [49.4 x 65 x 5.6mm]
10 many NOS  SEAL, CR brand. App'n unknown. 8625893  47 x 68.5mm
10 many NOS  SEAL, trans output shaft?, 8519H  45 x 70 mm
60 78   NOS  Shocks, pair, front. 22012237, "Pliacell"  Bk paint, "AJ"
               code label, "243-78" date code.
60 70? RNOS  SHOCKS, pair, Rear, Tape code HF, gray, P/N 3192328.
               "Pliacell 197 70"; 1/2" stud bottom, 2.75" OC bolts top.
20 68?  Fair SHOCKS, pair,Toro, rear airlift.  "Delco 3186 P3006D 85 68"
10 81?  New  SPARK PLUGS, set of 8 ea., R44TS8 taper seat for HEI.
10 ?     ?   SPEAKER, 3.5" round, PN 16009923
10 ?    NOS  SPEAKER, 3.5", G16003523  "...PN... 466-10 ohm 10-27 7 6"
10 ?    used SPEAKER, 3.5", round. "Excaliber Hi Fidelity"
10 ?   DNOS? SPEAKER, 4x10", G7898980  "466-10ohm 5-24-9G1"
10 ?    used SPEAKERS, P/N 16009923, 3.5" round, pair.
               "16009923 466-10ohm 1- 30- 0- 2- 1"
10 ?    NOS  SPEEDO CABLE CORE, P/N 6451067, cut to fit kit?
                "AC 615" on wrapper.
80 70s  NOS  STALK, turn signal, w/ cruise button.  Perfect chrome.
20 ?    NOS  STATOR, alternator, 55A rating. P/N 1959531, New In Box.
10 many NOS  SWITCH, BRAKE LITES. 2 flat terminals.
10 ?    NOS  SWITCH, PSeat?. On-off-on, momentary. Chrome stalk 3/8 x 3/4"
                3 heavy wires 10" long.
20 ?    New  TEMP SENDER, AC-258-M,  21mm threads, 1-flat term.
1 many  NOS  VACUUM T's, &c. Some with orifice. 872233, etc.
                3/16 x 3/16 x 1/4 typical.
20 70s  NOS  VENT, HVAC, directional fins.  About 2x4"
5   ?   Good VISOR, Toro, RH, Red, w. lighted vanity mirror.
300 66? NOS  WHEEL BEARING, LM-1049-E, Toronado, front wheel.
                2.0 x 3.25 x 2.04" ND (New Departure) brand.
10 73? Used  WIPER ARM, Toronado?, Parallel link type.  22" OAL.
40  ?   VLU  WIPER MOTOR, 2" crank arm, 3/8" ball, P/N 20276150
                "234 0 4A", "4999854" on g'box.

60   ?  NNOS WIPER MOTOR/pump ass'y, heavy "AL" dogleg, 1.75" arm,
                PN "1683709 / 51_5_3A"  P/N 1683709.
20 '70 ? NOS WIPER SWITCH, P/N 1260453, Mist-Off-Lo-Hi slider, 1.4x2.2" face.
               "1260453" cast in, "0239S" melted in plastic: Date code, day
               239 of '70?
.
- ----------------------- RADIOS & SUCH -----------------------
.
200 68 Used RADIO, AM, Wonderbar, F/R fader. 5 chrome pushbuttons.
              Model #7294753, SN 13872-38.  No knobs.
.
20 ? Used RADIO, AM/FM/8-Track. Flipper door. SN 2032197, Serv. Ret.
            #73GFMT2, FCC# 7898493. Face 2.4x4.5" [?]  No knobs, front
            comes right off. 5 PB's, Bk/Chrome tip. Cxns noted on case.
.
100 69? Used RADIO, [bands?], 5 chrome pushbuttons. Model# 7303173. No knobs.
.
100 67? Used RADIO, AM/FM, 5 chrome pushbuttons. Model# 7293653;
              SN 28293-39.  Chrome smallish knobs?
.
60  ?  Used STEREO AMP? Remote box, 3x 7x 10". Serv. Mod.# 93ET411;
              SN 3T-50102; Product# 7308153.
.
80 69? Used RADIO, AM only, 5 chrome pushbuttons. Service Model# 93APB1;
              SN 31-17603; Product# 73?7803.  No knobs.
.
80 66  Used RADIO, AM only, 5 black pushbuttons. Model# 7289373;
              SN 31985-35.  No knobs.
.
120 66 Used RADIO, Toronado, AM only, 5 chrome pushbuttons. Model# 7292643;
              SN 07810-31.  No knobs, has knob escutcheons. Face tapered
              to match dash.
.
150 ?  Used RADIO, AM/FM/8-Track/CB. Flipper door. Audiovox GM-TCBH.
              SN 7040104. Face 2.4x4.5"  No knobs. Plus: Mic w/ display &
              4 controls. No connector body, wires in disarray.
.
120 ?  Used RADIO, AM/FM, 5 chrome pushbuttons. Room for 8-track but not there.
              P/N 7898450, FCC Model GM2700. Service Return #80BFM1.
              Ret # 995992.  No knobs, dial comes right off. SN 1886280.
              Wiring shown on case.
.
200 ?  Used RADIO, AM/FM/8-Track/CB. Flipper door. Audiovox GM-TCBH.
              P/N 2022396, SN 7040104. Face 2.4x4.5"  No knobs. Plus:
              Mic w/ display & 4 controls. No conn body, wires in disarray.
.
200 ?  Used RADIO, AM/FM Stereo/8-Track. 5 black pushbuttons. Flipper door.
              Case 4x7x7.8" Shafts 5.75 OC. Cnxns noted on case. No knobs.
              Serv. Ref.#63AFMT1. SN 2011293. FCC#7895373-1. Extra 6 pin
              con'r to finned remote amp box, 2.5x5x5"
.
200 ?  Used RADIO, AM/FM/CB. 5 chrome buttons. Ctls: Sel-Squelch-AM/FM-Rad/CB.
              Case 3.5x7x7.8" Shafts 5.75 OC. Cnxns noted on case. With
              simple 4-pin MIC & CB BOX 499-8570  No knobs. Serv. Ref.
              #70BFMC1. P/N 7898220, SN 1002673. FCC#7895373-1. Extra
              6 pin connector to finned remote amp box, 2.5x5x5", with...
N/A ?  Used CB Adapter Box. 2x5.5x8.3" Cnxns to Mic, CB Ant., Radio.
              P/N 7898570, Series# 0501503. Serv. Ret.#70BCB1.
              SN 1005115. FCC#GM-CBD-20.
.
40 77  Used CB Adapter Box. 2x 5.5x 8.3" Cnxns to Mic [4-pin], CB Ant.,
              Radio [7x3 round pins, 0.6x1.6" conn'r]. Mfd date 12/76
              P/N 16000570, Lot# 23020909. Serv. Ret.#70BCB2. SN 2007212
              on sticker, K00014872 stamped in rear. FCC#GM-CBD-20.

80 70s Used RADIO, AM/FM, 5 chrome buttons: AM-FM-_-_-_. 12 terms,
              ID'd on case + 7 round terms in 2nd cnctr.: Bk, R, Or, Gn,
              Bu, Wh, Y. Case 1.8x4x7", shafts 5.1" OC.  P/N 16014950.
              FCC Mdl GM1400. Serv. Ret. #10XFM1. Ret # 997166. SN 1014357.
.
40  ?  Used MICROPHONE, CB. Controls: Rad/Mon/CB, Chan. Select, Squelch,
              PTT button. Channel display.  Connector: 6x3 flat blades
              0.7x1.3" overall. Mic part is1.5x2.5x4.5"
.
20  ? NOS  MICROPHONE, CB. "Delco GM". Controls: PTT button.  Connector:
              Round 5-pin. 22" coiled cord. Mic part is 1.5x2.2x2.8"
.
100 ? Used RADIO, Omega?, pushbutton AM/CB [no FM]. 1.8x 4x 7" box, plus
              dial & knobs. 1.3x5x5" CB box, PN 16005571, SN 1056003.
              Funky taped over ckt in harness. Plus: 1.3x5x5" CB box,
              PN 16002810, Serv. Ref. #90XCB1. Return #1000179. Made in Japan.
              Also, Mic w/ Rad-Mon-CB, PTT, Ch.Sel., Squelch, 1.5x2.5x4.5"
.
200 ? Used RADIO, AM/FM/CB. Mid-70's knobs, SN GM1150127. Wires cut?
              No or incorrect connector for car harness. Plus: Microphone.


- --
Chris Witt      *the* Rocket Scientist
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --
517-882-9747 eves/wknds to 11pm MI time
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:08:01 -0500
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: H*LP - Engine noise

>Sooo...let's assume you're right, and that is indeed the problem.  To make
>sure I have it right:
>
>"I have either a bad wrist pin or a bad rod bearing in #2.  By pulling the
>plug off (eliminating ignition) in that cylinder, I am causing either of
>the bad parts to not be subjected to the stress of a power stroke, and thus
>they stop making noise.  The standard up and down motion that happens
>becuase the #2 rod/piston is attached to a crankshaft that is still going
>around and around on 7 cylinders is not enough stress to cause the bad
>part(s) to make noise."
>
>I get that right?


That's right, but keep in mind that the worse the problem gets, the louder
the noise will get.  If it is a rod bearing, which is most likely, the
increased
tolerances will get to a point where pulling the plug wire will only reduce
the noise.

>Anyway to fix this (besides 50 weight oil)?...and you know I just changed
>the oil today (before I sent the first message) with 10-W30...


Well, you could rebuild the motor and have the crank turned, or you can
just buy a crank kit that has a new crank and bearings in it.  Probably
be cheaper and easier to scout around for a new motor (maybe a 350?)
and let this one ride until it blows.  For a rod knock or a wrist pin there
are no easy fixes, only patches.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:18:06 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: trunk lid emblem install?

3M emblem adhesive clear strong just sqirt it on the emblem apply to decklid
apply masking tape for a day and take off tape and there ya go, or use
barrel fasteners you put them on the emblem pegs drill the mounting holes a
little larger and just push it on...KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
To: oldsmobile mailinglist <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 11:44 AM
Subject: trunk lid emblem install?


>
>   I'm in need of some suggestions of how to install my Cutlass emblem
> on my trunklid.  I have no idea how to get the retainer clips in the
> back.  This is a 1970 Cutlass 'S'.  I was thinking of shooting silicone
> in the holes and a thin layer on the back of the emblem.  If you've put
> one of these emblems on, I sure would like to hear how you did it.
>
> Thanks,
>   Stefan
>   1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
>   70Cutlass@Beer.com
> _____________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com
>

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:17:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: misc., wasps, sounds, lower ends

>Wasps-
Rather than bang them alert, I generally cautiously open the doors, look in
all the jambs, other usual haunts, and work quietly so as not to disturb them.
I prefer to cultivate them, as a deterrent to unauthorized parts extraction
when I am not there. :-) Also, sometimes I get ground bees nesting in the
frame or such- that makes that car pretty much off limits for the year,
those bastids are MEAN and relentless.
==================
Olds bottom end strength
>One thing I'll say about Olds bottom ends, they never seem to come apart.
>They'll knock like hell but never seem to let loose.
I concur; got a 350 a while back for the 7a heads... took the heads off in
the back of the truck... Seems former owner ran the motor LONG after the
knocking started, one piston was broken right apart, another was very...
smooth from repeatedly kissing the head. Good thing it was a cheap motor.
=================
>to be by #2 cylinder (At least thats where the sound SEEMS to come from on
>mine)  I thought originally that I needed a valvejob  at first, as it seemed
>to come from inside the valvecover...
Use a $5 JC WHitny mechanic's stethescope and/or a hose to your ear to assist
in locating pesky noises...
=================

- --
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Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net (Jeff Carter)
Subject: Re: X-man Bolt Snapped! :(

Hi Greg,
I don't know how much room you have to work with, but perhaps the
manifold can assist you by acting as a guide for the drilling necessary
to use the easy out.  You might even use some tubing over the bit to
help center it in the hole, although I would not use one of my better
drill bits in this manner. :-)

Afterwards, it wouldn't hurt to use a higher grade bolt.

Good Luck!
Jeff Carter

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:53:14 -0400
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: test, ignore me!

Microsoft can burn in hell.

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:06:32 -0400
From: "Thomas P. Smith" <smithtp@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: More Noises -- Engine, Tranny?

Howdy,

I have my own "noises" post to make.  First, the engine and tranny
details are in my sig block below.  Anyway, I only get this sound after
the engine is warmed up and it's only noticeable at idle.  It's somewhat
of a knocking sound.  It's not very loud; you have to sort of listen for
it.  At first, I thought it was the engine.  When I went to check it
out, I put my hand on the oil pan to feel for vibrations. I felt them
some, but not much.  However, the vibrations feel stronger and more
direct if I put my hand on the transmission pan.  So, it feels as if the
knocking is coming from there.  Currently, both the engine and tranny
function okay.  Any ideas?

BTW, I'll be out of town come Monday morning.  So, if there are any
clarifying anwers anyone needs after then, I will get back, but it will
be a few days.  Don't hesitate to offer ideas in the mean time, though.
Thanks, ya'll.
- --
Thomas P. Smith
  1971 Cutlass S: 350 Rocket/TH350/Edelbrock OL4B/dual exhaust/
        sometimes Q-Jet, sometimes Holley/Mallory Unilite Conversion.
  1988 Plymouth Voyager 3.0:  Ummm...Let me think of something.

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:42:40 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.

Mark;
Not that I patronize such ignoble venues, but for a friend or guest I would
suffer though the ordeal. After all, what are buddies for?
Lou

- ----------
> From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.
> Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 5:56 PM
> 
> Lou Biggs wrote:
> 
> >  I know where to get good food
> > and definitely all the topless joints!!!!!!!
> > Lou
> 
> I assumed that was a given.
> 
> Mark

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:28:22 -0500
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: X-man Bolt Snapped! :(

>How badly screwed am I? Is it possible to get one of these out with the
>head still on the motor in the car? Can't see how you'd get a drill in
>there for an easy-out. I feel absolutely cursed with this thing!
>Grumble...


Greg,
You can get it drilled, but you need a 90 degree drill.  As to where you 
could get one without buying one, I have no clue.  

BTW, have any luck with your "rumble" problem?

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:12:56 -0500
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Just Wondering

>I swear this is true... must be kismet or something... but the last
>listing of subscribers I got a week or so back showed 330 regular list
>members and 260 digest memebers. Must be a small-block list... ;-)


Now you know, when Joe P. reads all the weekend mail on Monday,
he's gonna start a subscription drive.  Where's he gonna find the 
people to bump those numbers up to 403/400?  ROFL

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:53:37 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Hood Alignment Tips

	I have the hood on the car now, and need to get it aligned. Could 
someone out there please provide me with some tips on how to align it?
Thanks,
Jim McKeague
1970 Rallye 350
1970 Cutlass S W-31
1996 Aurora
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:01:25 -0500
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: trunk lid emblem install?

>  I'm in need of some suggestions of how to install my Cutlass emblem
>on my trunklid.  I have no idea how to get the retainer clips in the
>back.  This is a 1970 Cutlass 'S'.  I was thinking of shooting silicone
>in the holes and a thin layer on the back of the emblem.  If you've put
>one of these emblems on, I sure would like to hear how you did it.
>
>Thanks,
>  Stefan


When I had the trunklid repainted on my 72 I had to remove the 
"Cutlass" script from the lower right corner which sounds like
what your talking about.  It was held in by special clips.  Basically,
you push the clips in the holes, then push the script posts through the 
clips.  Now, where you would get this clips is beyond me.  I think I got
new ones from Year One, but that was quite a few years ago.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:21:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Olds Literature 5/99

>>>>>>   Rocket Science List of Goodies newly available 5/99  <<<<<<
SALE - SALE - Thru 6/30/99, PRICES AS SHOWN !!! SALE - SALE
=========================================================================
..>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  All items OLDSMOBILE unless otherwise noted.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Abbreviations: CSM= Chassis Service Manual. ETM= Electrical Troubleshooting
Manua
l. "New Product Service Information" is typically predecessor to CSM &
ETM, to be discarded after those are obtained. Based on most service info
from previous year's CSM.
NOTE: Some Fisher Body Manuals may not apply to "all body styles" as
claimed here, sometimes the E body was not included, as stated inside
the manual; this was not discovered until partway thru the cataloging.
Will check for this case if/when necessary.

Arranged more or less by year or estimated year. I think these prices are
reasonable, feel free to offer less or negotiate bulk purchase.

$--Years--Cond--Item Description, size, etc.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
5   all   Exc   Delco-Remy "Fundamentals of Eletricity & Magnetism".
                 36pp, 0.1"     General info
5   all   Exc   Delco-Remy "Energizers & Batteries". 19pp, 0.1"
                    General info, Incl. misc 1976 Serv. Bulletins 1B-115, etc.
5  <64    G     Delco-Remy "Delcotron 1-D series Generator & the Charging
                    Circuit". [Early unit with external regulator]
                    0.2" General info.
5  >68    F     Oldsmobile Turbo Hydra-Matic 350, Theory of Operation,
                    Technician's Reference Manual, No. 908. 0.2"
                    All TH350 trans.
5   ??    G     Oldsmobile Air Conditioning Manual, No. 110. 0.2" thick
                  C-60 & C-61 [Comfortron], Toronado AC shut-off switch.
2  <72    Exc   NAPA manual, "Brake System", ACT #5. 0.1" thick. General info
2  <72    Exc   NAPA manual, "Cooling System", ACT #6. 0.1" thick. General info
5  <72    Exc   NAPA manual, "Engine & Fuel System", ACT #1. 0.2" thick.
5  <72    Exc   NAPA manual, "Power Train System", ACT #4. 0.1" thick.
3  <72    Exc   NAPA manual, "Chassis & Suspension System", ACT #3. 0.1" thick.
3   76    Exc   MOTOR's "Auto Problem Solver, the essential glove compartment
                   guide." 66pp., 6x 9.2x 0.2" General info
20 50-72  G     How to Keep Your Volkswagon Alive, a manual... for the
                   compleat idiot," by John Muir. Spiral bound. 0.6" thick
                   Sedan, Ghia, Transporter.
5  <67    G/F   Automotive Air Conditioning by Boyce Dwiggins. 0.8" thick.
                   General AC systems book, no particular model.
25  68    G     Fisher Body Manual. All body styles.
25  69    G/F   Fisher Body Service Manual. 0.9" thick. All body styles.
40  70    G     Chassis Service Manual. 1.8" thick. All Oldsmobiles.
40  71    VG    Chassis Service Manual. 1.6" thick. All Oldsmobiles.
40  72    VG    Chassis Service Manual. 1.7" thick. All series.
40  72    Good  Fisher Body Service Manual. 1.0" thick. All body styles.
40  73    G     Chassis Service Manual. 1.7" thick. All series.
40  73    G     Chassis Service Manual. 1.7" thick. All series.
5   74    G/F   Service & Overhaul Manual, Chevy Vega. 1.1" thick
20  74    G-F   Chassis Service Manual. 1.7" thick.     All series.
40  74    Exc   Fisher Body Service Manual. 1.2" thick. All body styles
                   exc. E & T [?].
40  75    G/VG  Chassis Service Manual. 1.6" thick. All series.
30  75    Exc   Fisher Body Service Manual. 1.2" thick. All body
                   styles Exc. E & T [?].
40  76    VG    Chassis Service Manual. 2.1" thick. All Olsmobiles.
40  76    Exc   Fisher Body Service Manual. 1.2" thick. All Exc. K & T Styles.
30  <76   VG    MOTOR Auto Repair Manual. 39th edition. 2.1" thick
                  Misc. US cars.
30  77    G    Chassis Service Manual. 1.7" thick. All series.
10  77    VG   Diagnosis & Repair Manual. 0.5" thick.
                  Olds, Pontiac, Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, GMC.
10  77    VG   Diagnosis & Repair Manual. 0.5" thick.
                  Olds, Pontiac, Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, GMC.
10  <77   VG   Diesel Engine Service Manual. 0.2" thick. All Olds
                  5.7L V8 Diesels.
40  <77   Exc  MOTOR Auto Repair Manual. 40th edition. 1.9" thick Misc. US
cars.
50  78   G/VG  Chassis Service Manual. 2.0" thick. All series.
30  79    G    Fisher Body Service Manual. 1.0" thick.
                  GM E-body cars [Toronado, etc.]
20  79    F    Fisher Body Service Manual. 1.0" thick. Cover mangled 40%
                  All Series Except E & T bodies
10  79    G    New Product Service Information Manual 901. 0.5" thick.
                  All series
10  79    VG   New Product Service Information. 1/2" thick. Includes internal
                  papers detailing wiring development, names, etc. All series.
40  80    Exc  Chassis Service Manual. 2.3" thick. All Exc. Omega
10  81    VG   Electrical Troubleshooting Manual, sideways bound. 0.7" thick.
                  Cutlass, 88/98, Toronado.
5   81  V.Exc  Chassis Service Manual, 1.25" thick. Omega
2   81    Exc  "1981-3.8L V-6 Engine Operation", 15pp, 0.1" All w/ 3.8L V6
5   81    Exc  Fisher Body Service Manual. 0.8" thick.   All Exc. T & X Styles.
10  81    G    New Product Service Information Manual 101. 0.5" thick.
                   All series
5   81    G    Chassis Service Manual, Pontiac T1000. 1.1" thick. Pontiac T1000
5   81    UBU  Manual, CCC diagnostics. Spiral bound, 1/2" x 3.5 x 7"
5   82    Exc  Chassis Service Manual. 1.8" thick. Omega, Cutlass Ciera
5   82    Exc  Chassis Service Manual. 1.8" thick. Omega, Cutlass Ciera.
10  82    Exc  Electrical Troubleshooting Manual, sideways bound. 0.8" thick.
5   82    VG   Chassis Service Manual, Firenza. 1.2" thick. Firenza
5   82    Exc  Firenza OHC 4 cyl Engine Supplement. 3/8" thick Firenza
5   82    Exc  Service Manual Update. 0.25" thick. All Exc. Firenza
5   82    F/P  Chassis Service Manual, 1982 Chevette. 1.3". Chevette, 1982.
5   82    Exc  Passenger Car & light truck towing instructions. 5.5x 8.5x 0.2"
                  Chevy, Pontiac, Olds, Buick, Cadillac, GMC truck & coach.
40  83    Exc  Chassis Service Manual. 2.1" thick. Cutlass, Delta 88,
                  Custom Cruiser, 98, Toronado.
10  83    Exc  Chassis Service Manual. 1.8" thick. Firenza, Omega,
                  Cutlass Ciera.
10  83    Exc  Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. 1.7" thick. Firenza, Omega,
                  Cutlass Ciera, Cutlass, Delta 88, Custom Cruiser,
                  Ninety Eight, Toronado.
10  83    Exc  New Product Service Information. 0.8" thick. All Series.
10  83    Exc  New Product Service Information. 0.8" thick. All series.
5   83    Exc  Supplement to Chassis Service Manual, 0.1" thick.
                  Cutlass Ciera w/ 3.0L V6 engine.
20 81-83  VG   "Oldsmobile Service Manual", 81-83 CCC, '82-83 EFI, and
                  Diagnosis Charts. 0.3", All series.
30  84    Exc  Chassis Service Manual. 2.6" thick. Goes with ETM.
                  Firenza, Omega, Cutlass Ciera, Cutlass Cruiser.
30  84    Exc  Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. 2.2" thick. Goes with CSM.
                  Firenza, Omega, Cutlass Ciera, Delta 88, 98,
                  Toronado, Cutlass.
5   84    VG   Electrical Troubleshooting Manual Supplement. 0.1" thick.
                  All series.
40  85    Exc  Chassis Service Manual. 1.8" thick. Cutlass Supreme,
                  Delta 88 Royale, Custom Cruiser, Toronado.
30  85    Exc  Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. 1.5" thick.
                  Cutlass Supreme, Delta 88 Royale, Custom Cruiser, Toronado.
20  85    VG   Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. 1.5" thick.
                  Cutlass Supreme, Delta 88 Royale, Custom Cruiser, Toronado.
5   85    Exc  Chassis Service Manual, Volume I. 0.5" thick.
                  Firenza, Calais, Cutlass Ciera, Ninety Eight.
5   85    VG   Chassis Service Manual, Volume I. 0.5" thick.
                  Firenza, Calais, Cutlass Ciera, Ninety Eight.
5   85    VG   Chassis Service Manual, Volume II. 2.0" thick.
                  Firenza, Calais, Cutlass Ciera, Ninety Eight.
5   85    VG   Chassis Service Manual, Volume II. 2.0" thick.
                  Firenza, Calais, Cutlass Ciera, Ninety Eight.
10  85    Exc  Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. 2.0" thick.
                   Firenza, Calais, Cutlass Ciera, Ninety Eight.
15  85    VG   Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. 2.0" thick.
                   Firenza, Calais, Cutlass Ciera, Ninety Eight.
20  85    VG   New Product Service Information. 2.3" thick.
                   All series.
5   85    Exc  New Product Service Information Manual,
                   98 Regency. 1.5" thick.     Ninety Eight Regency.
5   85    VG   New Product Service Information Manual,
                   98 Regency. 1.5" thick.     Ninety Eight Regency.
5   85    VG   New Product Service Information Manual,
                   98 Regency. 1.5" thick.     Ninety Eight Regency.
5   85    VG   New Product Service Information Supplement. 63pp. 0.1" thick
                   Ninety Eight Regency.
30  86    Exc  Chassis Service Manual, Pontiac. 1.5" thick.
                   Pontiac Grand Am
10  86    VG   Cadillac Service Information Manual, Initial edition. 1.5"
                   Cadillac Cimmaron.
10  89    Exc  Buick Electrical Systems Manual, Spiral bound, 11x17x1"
                   LeSabre, Electra, Park Ave.
40 80-85  UBU  Literature, 1.5" 3-ring binder full of TSB's, Service
                   Guild training lessons, etc.



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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:26:13 -0700
From: "Peter Berusch" <berusch@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Wasps! (Don't try this!)

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.








>>
>Well, as long as we're takin' up BW on this...a long time ago when I was
>young and more stupid than I am now, I discovered the coolest, most
exciting,
>and most dangerous method for flying insect removal.  Fill up a pump
sprayer



>that can shoot a long stream with gasoline.  Hold a lighter, such as a
Zippo,
>in front of it and you've got one MEAN flamethrower!  You can blow wasps,
>yellowjackets, bees...any flying insect...out of the air instantly.  Leaves
>them writhing on the ground, scorched and wingless.  I've taken out whole
>wasps nests in broad daylight in very short order.  Of course, when the
>nozzle of your sprayer catches fire...well, let's just say don't let that
>happen.
>
>BTW, I've grown up and am much kinder and gentler.  I wouldn't ever
recommend
>this.  I, especially, would never use it for getting rid of wasps in your
>Olds.  Tennis ball cannons with tennis balls doused in lighter fluid
wouldn't
>be smart, either. :-)  This public service announcement has been brought to
>you by:
>--
>Thomas P. Smith
>  1971 Cutlass S: 350 Rocket/TH350/Edelbrock OL4B/dual exhaust/
>        sometimes Q-Jet, sometimes Holley/Mallory Unilite Conversion.
>  1988 Plymouth Voyager 3.0:  Ummm...Let me think of something.
>
>

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