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oldsmobile-digest        Friday, May 14 1999        Volume 01 : Number 1956



Re:  1850 holley carb
Re: Oldsmobile Frown..
HELP!  MISSING HOOD "DISC PIN!"
Re:  1850 holley carb
Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.
Need Pulleys
Q-jets and anniversaries...
Re:  warning about Brake Master Cylinders on 90's ABS cars.
Re: Oldsmobile Frown
Unsubscribe
'71 GTX vs '76 Cutlass (not really!)
Great Gifts from the Wife
Re: 1969 (Fake) H/O in Austin, TX
Parts Update
Re: heads to look for
Re: 70 DELTA88 /98 PARTS NEEDED/TESTING A CLOCK
Re: 70 DELTA88 /98 PARTS NEEDED/TESTING A CLOCK
Desperately Seeking Restoration 
Re: 70 DELTA88 /98 PARTS NEEDED/TESTING A CLOCK
OLDS for SALE
Re: Oldsmobiles & Star Wars
Anyone not own a Jump N Carry?
demolition man
Re: quadforum-l Timing Chain Oil Pressure?
Re: demolition man
Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?
Re: demolition man
Re: pollution controll
Re: quadforum-l Timing Chain Oil Pressure?
Re: Anyone not own a Jump N Carry?
Re: demolition man
Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?
Re: demolition man
Thanks Randy Geisel !!
Indy/Brickyard Tix FS (non-Olds)
Re: demolition man
points gap?demo man
Re: demolition man
Re: Spark plug wire lenght and other questions.
Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.
Re: demolition man
Re: points gap?demo man
Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?
dis.point gap?t-tops YES
point gap
Re: demolition man
Re: demolition man
Re: demolition man
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UNBOUNCE: '76 98 FS
UNBOUNCE: 1903 Olds
UNBOUNCE: Who repairs Delco radios?
UNBOUNCE: 
UNBOUNCE: Desperately Seeking Restoration

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:35:20 -0700
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Re:  1850 holley carb

>Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:50:07 -0400
>From: "phil giannotta" <henkey@mich.com>
>Subject: Holley carb

>I have a 70 supreme with a 350 4 bbl holley . There is a small set of
>numbers on the front  of the carb. All I can make out is 1850-4.  Is this a
>850 or do I need more info? 

>Thanks
>Phil Giannotta

Phil,
	I'm pretty sure the 1850 holley is a 600 CFM vacuum secondary carb.
That's what I used to have on my '74 Blazer, great carb on a 350!

- -Steve

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:50:40 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Frown..

Thank you for the tip.  I was the one asking.  I am going to give it a try.
meso@pamlico.net
Steve
North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Carri <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 12:15 PM
Subject: Oldsmobile Frown..


> John Pajak wrote:
> 
> >     Someone (sorry I forgot who) posted a message about a 70-72 bent 
> >front Cutlass bumper. That is the infamous "Oldsmobile Frown", 
> >usually a result of being towed by a sling-type tow truck.
> >     The fix costs nothing and is certainly worth a try. Insert a 2x4 
> >in the bumper slot and pick up gently on the 2x4. Alternate this 
> >treatment from side to side. You should be able to bend it back into 
> >almost perfect shape. These bumpers are actually quite flimsy and can 
> >be bent with little effort.
> >     It worked for me on my 72 442!!!!!
> ___________________________________________
> 
> 
> Great idea, John! My '72 Supreme too has the infamous bent front 
> bumper (I prefer to think of it as the Oldsmobile Sulk rather than the 
> Oldsmobile Frown) and I had no inclination to take it off and ship it 
> somewhere as all my budget is being used up trying to make my car 
> handle better. But a free fix, ahh, that's worth a try any day! Thank 
> you!
> 
> -John Carri
> '72 Supreme (with Oldsmobile Sulk)
> '73 RoadRunner (nice straight, strong bumpers you can pick the car up
>                 by!)
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:53:02 -0700
From: "M. Barberree" <eaglegrl@c-gate.net>
Subject: HELP!  MISSING HOOD "DISC PIN!"

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I borrowed my boyfriend's 1970 4-4-2 last weekend (yes, with his =
consent!).  When I got back home, I noticed that some transmission fluid =
was leaking from the car, so I attempted to raise the hood to ascertain =
the source of the leak.  Well, as you probably know, there are two discs =
on either side of the hood that must be turned about 180 degrees in =
order to release the hood latches.

I could not fully complete the necessary turning arc in order to release =
the left disc, so drove a few houses down to my neighbor's for some =
help.  Well, I shouldn't have done that... 'cause the little pin that =
holds or is in that disc fell off, and, of course, is way too small to =
find.

I need to replace this pin.  Does anyone know where I can find a pin  or =
pins, or will I need to replace the entire disc?  Where could I find =
these?

Thanks soooooo much!

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:57:21 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: Re:  1850 holley carb

Yep, the 1850 is a 600 cfm vac. secondary universal app. I had one on a 77
Camaro  350/4speed about 8yrs ago. Timing chain jumped and gave it a few
good backfires through the carb and blew out the power valve. After that
the thing would dump fuel into the engine from all 4bbls at idle. Worked ok
till the power valve thing happend. Then I never could get it to work right
even after fixing it. I gave it to a friend to play with a few years ago. I
think he's got it in a box somewhere.

Omega Man
'74 Omega S 455/auto
'74 Omega 455/4spd 




At 12:35 PM 5/13/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:50:07 -0400
>>From: "phil giannotta" <henkey@mich.com>
>>Subject: Holley carb
>
>>I have a 70 supreme with a 350 4 bbl holley . There is a small set of
>>numbers on the front  of the carb. All I can make out is 1850-4.  Is this a
>>850 or do I need more info? 
>
>>Thanks
>>Phil Giannotta
>
>Phil,
>	I'm pretty sure the 1850 holley is a 600 CFM vacuum secondary carb.
>That's what I used to have on my '74 Blazer, great carb on a 350!
>
>-Steve
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:09:12 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.

K;
Will look for you, please do, but hope to be fixed by then.
Lou

- ----------
> From: KarlAunan@aol.com
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.
> Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 11:38 AM
> 
> In a message dated 99-05-12 16:14:58 EDT, you write:
> 
> << Planning on going if physical able, will let you know ahead of time.
>>
> 
> Will stop by either case.
> Seems to be on the way.
> 
> K

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:23:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.Strachan" <creature48212@yahoo.com>
Subject: Need Pulleys

Does anybody has a set of pulleys for sale that fit a
73 350 motor? I don't care if it's A/C or non A/C
(unless it matters). I currently have a three row
crank
and water pump pulleys.Alternator is two row and the
P/S is one row. I'd appreciate any help or info.

    TIA  Rick  Detroit MI.
         69 Cutlass 'S' 
     

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:16 
From: "John Carri" <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: Q-jets and anniversaries...

Thomas P. Smith wrote:

>Well, I figured I'd inform ya'll of my current tinkerin' project.  > 
>I've accumulated a few Dremel grinding and cutting attachments and 
>have begun "hogging" out one of my Q-Jets (not the numbers-matching 
>one).   Many thanks to John Carri for supplying me with info 
>pertinent to this project. 

<snipped>

>ALSO...Today (13 May) is my 10th Anniversary.  My wife is too cool.  
>Did I tell ya'll she bought me a  225 amp Lincoln Electric arc welder 
>last Christmas?  Is that love or what!
________________________________________________

Congratulations to you and Amy, Tom! Ten years of marriage is quite a 
milestone, and it is great to hear from someone who is happy after all 
those years together. Gives hope and inspiration to those of us with 
fewer years of marriage under our belts.  My wedding anniversary is 
also on the 13th, the 13th of December; in December of 1999 we'll 
celebrate our second wedding anniversary. For my last birthday I got a 
die-cast metal 1968 Hemi GTX from my wife, pretty cool of her to 
figure out something I would really like!

Olds/automotive content, air that is flowing happily in a laminar 
fashion through smooth passageways does not "whoosh"; so all those 
"whooshing" noises one hears from a Q-jet are pointers to the rough, 
jagged, sharp-edged, turbulence-inducing path that the air has to 
struggle through! Tom, maybe you can do a before-and-after "whoosh" 
test to tell you how much you're improved airflow through your carb :)

Maybe if enough of us plead with K&N they'll make a StubStack for the 
QuadraJet?  

- -John Carri
'72 Supreme
'73 RoadRunner

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:24:50 -0700
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Re:  warning about Brake Master Cylinders on 90's ABS cars.

>Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:27:30 -0400
>From: Doug Ahern <doug@mail.RATH.PeachNet.EDU>
>Subject: warning about Brake Master Cylinders on 90's ABS cars.

>My mother had a 91 Olds 98 Touring Sedan.  At around 40-50k miles,
>the brake pedal went to the floor (with no actually braking occuring).
>on the next pump of the pedal the brakes were restored.  the next day
>she had the dealer replace the Master cylinder.  The supervisor of the
>garage said the  piston in the MC developed a problem and that he
>had seen it before.   Two weeks ago, at 95k miles, it happened again the
>brake pedal went to the floor. This time, there was no second chance
>as it was during a panic stop in traffic.  with the brake pedal on the
floor
>and absolutely no braking occurring, the car smashed into a jeep.  The
>car was totaled at $7k worth of damage.

>GM has not had a recall on these MC's.  they only last 50k or so and then
>fail completely.   I wonder if GM is waiting some certain number of
fatalities
>to occur before they recall their faulty brake equipment.  total bullsh!t.

Wowza!
	I guess I should tell my mom to be careful, or prepared to use the
emergency brake on her car.  She's got a '91 Cutlass with 156K on it!
Luckily we have only had to replace the ECM in the car, besides the usual
maintenance items.

Steve Reed
Austin, TX

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:50:27 -0500
From: "Mike Bloomer" <mbloomer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Frown

>The rear bumper on the Vista Cruiser had a similar problem.  Many moons
>ago my dad used it to pull a buddy when he got stuck in the snow.  Bent
>the hell out of the back bumper.  It was easily straightented.  Two
>years ago I got hit in the passenger side quarter and the bumper got
>just as twisted and mangled as the quarter.  Peeled it rearward too.
>
>Greg Pruett


I got hit once in my 72.  The guy hit me in the right rear tire from a 90 
degree angle.  It did no damage to anything in the suspension but 
as his car slid down the side of mine he pushed in the bottom of the
quarter panel (hardly noticeable, not even a scratch) and the bumper
snagged on his plastic nose cap.  Out of the 4 bumper bolts holding
the bumper on there was only 1 left attached.  Peeled it off like a pop
top.  Imagine my 72 going down the road with the rear bumper (tail lights
and license plate too!) held on by one bolt and an army of bungee cords.

Mike Bloomer
mbloomer@mindspring.com
ICQ# 19113713
http://members.tripod.com/CutlassFreak/

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:15:08 -0700
From: dayc <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Unsubscribe

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:21 
From: "John Carri" <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: '71 GTX vs '76 Cutlass (not really!)

Don Boyd wrote:

>John, I just sold a 71 Plymouth GTX - I was never so glad to be rid 
>of a vehicle in my life!  I tell you, things on that car would break 
>so fast that they'd violate the laws of physics.  Ran like a bear, 
>but broke all the time.  
- --------------------------

      Oh, divine power out there somewhere, WHY do bad things happen
      to good people? Why, why, why?

      Don, somehow you had a Mopar lemon. Believe me, this is not par
      for the course with Mopars of that era. I've owned 3 early 70's
      Mopars ('74 Satellite Custom, '73 RoadRunner, '73 big-block
      Satellite Sebring) all of which gave me largely trouble-free
      service for thousands of miles. I've had to replace brake pads,
      I replaced 2 timing chains as a precautionary measure
      (at 140,000 miles on the 318 and 125,000 miles on the 340),
      2 water pumps (similarly high mileages), and other
      consumable items, but nothing that wasn't routine maintainance. 

- -------------------------
>So, now I've got some cash to fix up the 76 Cutlass 455.  How 'bout 
>some suggestions for bolt-on power that will still let me retain the 
>EGR valve (annual inspections for that stuff in AZ!) and stay 
>more-or-less smog legal? And drivable.  If I were going to change 
>heads on this beast, which heads should I be looking for in Ye Olde 
>Yards?
>
>Thanks!
_____________________

I'll leave this to the Olds experts, but as an interesting aside, I 
had an, ahem, friend who noticed the odd fact that if you pull the EGR 
valve hose off the carburetor and cap the port, for some reason the 
car gets peppier at part-throttle. Putting the hose back on once a 
year doesn't take very long....

The same friend also noticed that his once-every-two-years smog-checks 
went better if he first swapped in a stock distributor with stiff 
springs in the mechanical advance, set the ignition timing to zero 
degrees BTDC, and swapped in the stock carb which ran so lean that the 
car stalled out at every stoplight on the way to the smogcheck.  Oddly 
enough, after he got home and swapped in the distributor with lighter 
springs, adjustable vacuum advance, and more initial timing, and the 
carburetor that was actually calibrated for the engine instead of for 
smog-checks, the car ran much better. I can't explain it, it must have 
been one of those black-magic or voodoo kind of deals.

Of course, I would have called up the Feds and reported on the bum for 
actually wanting a driveable car instead of something which stalled at 
every light and had all the acceleration of a determined snail, but I 
couldn't find their phone number, and so I live today in an awful 
shame-wracked world, with nightly nightmares from the awful burden of 
guilt I carry.  Those kind EPA people just want to make my life 
better, and I let them down. Sob!

<soapbox mode on>
Interesting aside, I heard recently that only 30% of the air-pollution 
in Los Angeles actually comes from cars today. In other words, after 
the smog-Nazi's force us all to spend thousands of dollars more per 
car to get the emissions down from negligible to nothing, and the fun 
quotient down to nothing also, we'll still have a full SEVENTY PERCENT 
of all the smog we have today. Many of the sources of this pollution - 
heavy trucks, aircraft, etc - have large and powerful lobbies in 
Washington. A curious coincidence. For some reason a big diesel truck 
can legally belch the air around me full of thick, greasy, 
carcinogenic, black smoke, but anyone who owns a well-maintained, 
clean-running car made before 1985 or so is looked on as an 
eco-criminal, destroying the world for our children.
<soapbox mode off>

Okay, (pant, pant, froth at mouth) where's my Prozac?  Sorry about the 
rant, but some of the %@#$ that we have to put up with gets to me 
sometimes.

- -John Carri
'72 Supreme
'73 RoadRunner

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:57:47 -0400
From: retrorockets <retrorockets@snet.net>
Subject: Great Gifts from the Wife

To continue the great gifts from wives thread:

Several years ago my wife thought that I was spending too much time in
my shop working so she gave me a pair of headers for my '69 Corvette
which I hadn't touched in years.  This renewed both our interests in
older cars, she was kind of a gear head of sorts too.  New car styling
had no appeal to either of us.  The result - a '70 Buick GS455 daily
driver, then, a couple of years ago,  we found her dream car, a '70 442
W-30 4-speed which, by the way, I don't get to drive cause she's always
behind the wheel.  Women work in such mysterious ways.  It's wonderful
....I think.

Dude

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:54:51 -0400
From: Mike Rothe <hurstolds@duesouth.net>
Subject: Re: 1969 (Fake) H/O in Austin, TX

Ok, I wanna play too:  :)  This car was not or ever a Hurst/Olds.  Even though 
I
guess when it has the appearance of one with the scoop and spoiler.....  
Here's my
take on it....

> Body -
> 1969 Oldsmobile coupe, of the style like every 1969 H/O (non-post) - you
> would say "S" coupe, yes?

So far so good.

> Red in color

Hopefully not original.  All H/O's were white/gold stripes.

> Wing on trunk

Can be added to any 68-72 fastback.  And with heavy duty pedastal mods, to 
converts
too.

> Correct chrome bumper with cutouts and exhaust tips

Again, good thing.

> '69 H/O hood scoop - the edges of this seem very "iffy", i.e. bubbling
> around scoop/hood seam, and there's no single center-   mounted massive hole
> in the underside center of the hood for O.A.I.

It was bolt on only, and the seam was evident.  Sealed with a thin bead of 
white
body sealer caulk.  Hood hole approx 6" square with 7/16" coner holes.  No hood
liner.  Demmer cut hole looks like it was chopped in by a 6 yearold with a 
chainsaw.

> Black fenderwells - I know, no red fenderwhells on a '69 H/O, only W-30

Bingo

> 6 emblem mounting studs on inside of hood tongue - you say this is normal
> for a H/O

Depends.  the stud BOSSES are there, but the holes were never drilled on an 
H/O.
All other Cutlai had two or more of those holes drilled, either for a rocket, 
and
"S" or "442".

> On inside fender edges, chipping red paint reveals gold paint underneath -

H/Os were painted with the fender chrome INSTALLED.  In fact, all they did was 
tape
off any chrome/stainless and paint the stripes.

> VIN -
> 344879M434050
>

Right VIN type.  However 406456 was one of the last ones Demmer converted (last
documented verifiable one anyway).  The 434050 number seems a bit late, 
although you
never know.  It IS a 442 though.  Rare?  no.  comparitively anyway.  I think 
there
were like 29,000 442's made in 69?

> Fisher Body Plate
> ST69    33687LAN433030  BDY
> TR    934          75  75   PNT
>

Like you say, it ends right here.  TR 930 was on all H/Os, along with 50 50 
PNT.
(or 50-50 PNT)

Other interesting note, bottom left corner there should be a number/letter 
code for
build month/week.  Last week of March to the last week of May 69 the H/Os were
built.  03D through 05E inclusive.  Anything after this is HIGHLY unlikely.
Although a few "test" cars had earlier build dates, obviously.

> Engine -
> Blue 455
> 396021 F (with serifs on both horizontal and vertical ends)
>

70 or later model 455.  68/69 were sans serif "F"s.  Plus, I'm pretty sure it 
didn't
come originally this way.

> Interior -
> Gold in color
> Rockets on door panels
>

Rockets yes, Gold, no.

> Inoperative clutch pedal
>

No 69 H/O came factory with a clutch pedal.

> 3 instrument pods
>         left - stock idiot lights for (counter-clock from top) Fuel, Brake, 
Gen,
> Oil, Hot
>         center - stock speedo, calibrated to 120
>

Standard fare for 442.  Rallye Pac optional on 442 and Hurst.

> Rectangular H/O stick-on emblem (decal) on glove box door
>

Can be bought and placed instead of 442 trim plate.

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:09:36 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Parts Update

PLEASE!
E me direct and
I'll get back to you A.S.A.P
 
 Robert Schinkel
 docbob@caninet.com

I have recently picked up 11 NOS shocks - fronts and rears, I will sell all
for $140 
 
 1968

 442 "X - Y" Exhaust Manifolds > $350
 Black Dash Pad >$80
 Black Console w/wiring. no top plate >$45
 442 Air Cleaner w/lower tube > $75
 442 grill emblem >   $40
 Convertible top cylinders > $25 ea.
 Rear defroster switch > $20
 Conv. Top latches  >20.pr
 Reverse light lens good condition > $10
 442 Carb  #7028251 >$75
 442 Air Cleaner w/lower tube>$75
 Intake for 442 398662 with choke> $50
 Power Antenna Switch  >$20
 
 1969

 Radio plate (uncut)> $20
 Ashtray Doors   > $8
 Convertible top cylinders > $25
 Convertible Trunk Lid rustfree  > $150 
 442 W-30 Air Cleaner w/Scoops >$500
 442 Ashtray door with woodgrain Exc.>$10
 glove box door - black w/woodgrain>$20
 Conv. Top latches >$20.pr
 Vacuum trunk switch >$20
 69-72      Power window motors >  $20ea.
 
 1970

 Daul Gate Shifter >$75
 Nos Supreme Center of Hood Spear $100
 Nos W-30 Emblems $70pr.
 Tail light lens (Cutlass) >  $15 ea
 Tail light lens (Supreme) > $20 ea
 Lower Dash AC Vents (none 8 Track)>$100
 Rear liscense plate brackets  > $10ea.
 Nos pass. side headlight frame(plastic)>  $75
 Nos fender script "Cutlass"  >  $25 ea
 Nos Horn Contact (sport wheel)  >  $25 ea
 F85 fender script >  $30 pr.
 Dash Plaques (Plastic around gauges W/ wood grain)   >   $20
 Convertible top cylinder > $25
 Hood Hinges > $20
 Motor mount heat shield> $4
 Conv. Top latches> $20.pr
 455 heads E casting> $75
 1 NOS rear Wheel well Molding>$50
 69-72      Power window motors> $20 ea.
 
 1971 & 1972
 Front bumper directional lens> $8 ea.
 72 fender mount antenna - complete> $20
 Trunk lid script "O-L-D-S-M-O-B-I-L-E">  $20
 Dash Plaques (Wood Grain area around gauges) >$10
 Convertible top cylinders  > $25
 Rear ¼ panel supreme extensions (supremes only)>$10
 Motor mount heat shield  >$5
 Conv. Top latches  >$20.pr
  69-72      Power window motors > $20 ea.
 Sport Mirror Set >$40
 
 1973
 Carb         7043256  >$30
 455 4BBL engine missing carb & exhaust manifolds
 Factory drilled crank for 4 speed> $300

Olds Related Items
Hotwheels Redline 442 Army Staff Car C9 $150
Hotwheels Redline 442 Firechief (Blue Light) C9.9++ $60
Hotwheels Redline 442 Police Cruiser C7 $20
Hotwheels Demolition Man 442 exc. $20
Ertl 69 Hurst Olds (new in box) $35
Ertl 69 442 W-30 Gold w/Black Stripes $35
Promo 62 F-85 Cutlass exc. $50
Corgi 66 Toronado C9 $40

Shipping is extra 
Robert Schinkel   docbob@caninet.com
Niagara Falls,    Canada   905-357-4454

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:22:25 EDT
From: Four42much@aol.com
Subject: Re: heads to look for

I say to keep your car up to your state emissions specs , look for a set of 
Ka heads, they are very good breathing heads and came on some 72 W30s , 73 
455/4spd. cars and on the 73-75 Hurst Oldses with the 455(in 73 on the rare 
L77 H/O,alittle harder to find on those)  Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:08:38 -0700
From: "Peter Berusch" <berusch@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: 70 DELTA88 /98 PARTS NEEDED/TESTING A CLOCK

I've got a 70 delta 88 that is going to be taken apart.  Allegedly I have
the front bumper sold, but I don't yet have confirmation.  The bumper has
the lights in it.  If I don't hear from the buyer by, say, saturday, I'll
consider the bumper to be not sold and sell you the light, if you wish.
Peter.




>Does anyone out there know where I can find the left side park light
>assembly(includes the lens and the housing that goes onto the
>bumper)for a 1970 88/98? Also, the cigarrette lighter assembly for a
>1970 Delta88/98? Preferably in the US? Also, does anyone know how to
>test a clock to see if it works, that is not hooked up in a car? Anyone
>please help. Ed from New York.
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: EDMUND WILLIAMS <efw67@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 70 DELTA88 /98 PARTS NEEDED/TESTING A CLOCK

- --- Peter Berusch <berusch@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I've got a 70 delta 88 that is going to be taken
> apart.  Allegedly I have
> the front bumper sold, but I don't yet have
> confirmation.  The bumper has
> the lights in it.  If I don't hear from the buyer
> by, say, saturday, I'll
> consider the bumper to be not sold and sell you the
> light, if you wish.
> Peter.
> 
> Hi Peter, I am very much interested in the  front park light
assembliess in the bumper. If you don't get the bumper sold I want
them. E-mail me ASAP on this. Buy the way, what other parts do you have
for this car?  Is this car a Delta custom? Does it have the rear
quarter rocker moldings (right and left)? What if I offer you $35.00
for the park light assemblies and the rear quarter moldings plus
shipping? Please let me know what else you have. Oh, how are the front
fenders? finally tell me if this is a 2 or 4door car. Thanks, Ed in
NewYork. PS were are you located?
> 
> 
> >Does anyone out there know where I can find the
> left side park light
> >assembly(includes the lens and the housing that
> goes onto the
> >bumper)for a 1970 88/98? Also, the cigarrette
> lighter assembly for a
> >1970 Delta88/98? Preferably in the US? Also, does
> anyone know how to
> >test a clock to see if it works, that is not hooked
> up in a car? Anyone
> >please help. Ed from New York.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:39:30 -0500
From: "polychrome" <polypub@earthlink.net>
Subject: Desperately Seeking Restoration 

Greetings

I have a 1971 Olds Cutlass Convertible in need of a good restoration job.
Not some Body and fender guy that will slap paint over duct tape and give it
a 90 day warranty. But someone who truly sees the car as a classic work of
art as they were intended to be. And who would be willing to bring it back
once again to a great looking automobile. It does not have to be super show
quality just a good job done with pride for the original work.

If anyone can recommend anyone in the MidWest who does such work, they can
save yet another classic from an early and untimely grave. Along with my
eternal gratitude and appreciation.

Please contact me, Brian at:

polypub@earthlink.net

Thanks

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:04:54 -0700
From: "Peter Berusch" <berusch@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: 70 DELTA88 /98 PARTS NEEDED/TESTING A CLOCK

- -----Original Message-----
From: EDMUND WILLIAMS <efw67@yahoo.com>
To: OLDS GENERAL MOTORS <OLDSMOBILE@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 11:11 AM
Subject: 70 DELTA88 /98 PARTS NEEDED/TESTING A CLOCK


>Does anyone out there know where I can find the left side park light
>assembly(includes the lens and the housing that goes onto the
>bumper)for a 1970 88/98? Also, the cigarrette lighter assembly for a
>1970 Delta88/98? Preferably in the US? Also, does anyone know how to
>test a clock to see if it works, that is not hooked up in a car? Anyone
>please help. Ed from New York.
>
>_________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:56:34 -0400
From: "Erik Gertsen" <ainode@frontiernet.net>
Subject: OLDS for SALE

1973 Delta 88 Royale 4 dr sedan , A/C, AM, 4 bbl Rochester, very strong 455,
133k , not abused, no knocks, ticks. tranny same great condition. cracked
frame, great interior and doors/hood/chrome, new tires/ brake disks, new
master cylinder , water pump, not run for 5 months, some rust, car is
covered, all manuals. Great donor for 442 / Cutlass/ Omega engine project.
Need to sell immediately.
 Located in Middletown, NY. phone 914-726-3566 after 7 pm. Thanks for all
the support from the list members for this car, its been a battle but i have
to give it up. Cheers guys.

Erik Gertsen

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:43:53 -0700
From: paul freeman <pfreeman@tmlp.com>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobiles & Star Wars

ya right (LMAO)

Brian Ammons wrote:
> 
> The Party Barge and I camped out for tickets last night...I'll trade
> someone two tickets, opening day, at the newest theatre in Austin for a 455.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Brian Ammons             ICQ - 3585737
> MIS Major - UT Austin  b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu
> 2903 Breeze Terrace    http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ammons/
> Austin, TX 78722          Home:  (512) 236-8088 (Austin)
>                                               (713) 776-2110 (Houston)
> 1984 Oldsmobile          Pager:  (512) 483-8056
>         Delta 88  RB                   (713) 318-5938
>                 4-door
> "The Party Barge"
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:48:57 -0400
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: Anyone not own a Jump N Carry?

If not, go get one now!


Ray Costanzo
87 409 Cutlass
84 3.8 Calais
Bucks County, PA
mailto:costanzo@netcarrier.com
http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:03:44 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: demolition man

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Hi all on list
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:21:11 -0500
From: Mike Taylor <miket@interaccess.com>
Subject: Re: quadforum-l Timing Chain Oil Pressure?

Joe,

The timing chain tensioner does have a dedicated, pressuruzed feed from
the oil system.  I do not know how sensitive it is to low oil pressure,
and what happens when oil pressure is to low though...

Mike Taylor


> 
> quadforum-l
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I bought my 90 Cutlass Supreme, 30K, 2.3 "D" Quad4, slightly more than a
> month ago and it had a problem with the timing chain.  The timing chain was
> replaced about two weeks ago by a garage that does business with the car lot
> I bought from.  The car sounded quiet and ran great after the repair.
> 
> Since then I've only put on about 150 miles.  Over the past few days a
> sound, very much like the tinny metallic sound I heard before, has been
> getting louder from under the hood.  I called the garage last night and he
> said that it might be low oil pressure causing my trouble; that the new
> timing chain tensioner needed good oil pressure to work correctly and I
> should bring the car back next week for him to look at.
> 
> I checked the oil and the level is good (although it looks dirty).  The oil
> pressure gauge shows high when cold and drops to about the 1/4 range when
> the car is warm.
> 
> Is this guy pulling my chain (pun intended)?  Any feedback appreciated.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Contact list-owner rlynker@mindspring.com with any questions or problems.

- -- 
Mike Taylor
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Lane/5887

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:32:46 EDT
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Re: demolition man

What station?
Jim

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:46:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bob Valentine <ravalent@liii.com>
Subject: Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?

Not a flame, but rather just a general question/comment:

Why is there all this trying to transplant longtail 400's into A-bodies?
Around here, the short tail units are one of the most common trannies -
it's the longtails that are hard to find!

The short tails are common in tons of mid 70's to mid 80's Cads, Pontiacs,
Buicks, and (of course) Olds.  It's usually easier to find a good 400 than  
a good 350 unit at most yards here.   Hell, I've got two in my backyard
that I'll probably never use.

                     -->   Bob Valentine  <--  
                    -->   bob@tecmark.com  <--
        "Experience varies directly with equipment ruined"

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:48:56 EDT
From: Four42much@aol.com
Subject: Re: demolition man

its on FOX......I have the big scale demolition man that shoots missles..its 
a convertible...W30 442....still in box , unopened...Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:38:38 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: pollution controll

>  AMEN MY BROTHER AMEN.  TESTIFY IT TO THEM......OH LORDY I FEEL FLUSHED.
SOMEBODY GET ME SOME WATER............OH MY...........YA MAN I AM WITH
YOU... THERE SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST TREE HUGGIN HIPPIE FREEKS AND THERE
EMISSION LAWS
> <soapbox mode on>
> Interesting aside, I heard recently that only 30% of the air-pollution
> in Los Angeles actually comes from cars today. In other words, after
> the smog-Nazi's force us all to spend thousands of dollars more per
> car to get the emissions down from negligible to nothing, and the fun
> quotient down to nothing also, we'll still have a full SEVENTY PERCENT
> of all the smog we have today. Many of the sources of this pollution -
> heavy trucks, aircraft, etc - have large and powerful lobbies in
> Washington. A curious coincidence. For some reason a big diesel truck
> can legally belch the air around me full of thick, greasy,
> carcinogenic, black smoke, but anyone who owns a well-maintained,
> clean-running car made before 1985 or so is looked on as an
> eco-criminal, destroying the world for our children.
> <soapbox mode off>
>
> Okay, (pant, pant, froth at mouth) where's my Prozac?  Sorry about the
> rant, but some of the %@#$ that we have to put up with gets to me
> sometimes.
>
> -John Carri
> '72 Supreme
> '73 RoadRunner
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:34:37 -0400
From: Jeff Verkleeren <jev114@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: quadforum-l Timing Chain Oil Pressure?

Joe

I think he is full of it!!! My car runs the same as yours about 1/4 range I
don't hear any noises. I have had problems with ticking and metallic noises
in teh past though. A common problem is the check valve between the head
and block. It can get plugged or partially clogged and restrict oil from
getting to your top end. 

Jeff


At 08:21 PM 5/13/99 -0500, Mike Taylor wrote:
>quadforum-l
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Joe,
>
>The timing chain tensioner does have a dedicated, pressuruzed feed from
>the oil system.  I do not know how sensitive it is to low oil pressure,
>and what happens when oil pressure is to low though...
>
>Mike Taylor
>
>
>> 
>> quadforum-l
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> I bought my 90 Cutlass Supreme, 30K, 2.3 "D" Quad4, slightly more than a
>> month ago and it had a problem with the timing chain.  The timing chain was
>> replaced about two weeks ago by a garage that does business with the car
lot
>> I bought from.  The car sounded quiet and ran great after the repair.
>> 
>> Since then I've only put on about 150 miles.  Over the past few days a
>> sound, very much like the tinny metallic sound I heard before, has been
>> getting louder from under the hood.  I called the garage last night and he
>> said that it might be low oil pressure causing my trouble; that the new
>> timing chain tensioner needed good oil pressure to work correctly and I
>> should bring the car back next week for him to look at.
>> 
>> I checked the oil and the level is good (although it looks dirty).  The oil
>> pressure gauge shows high when cold and drops to about the 1/4 range when
>> the car is warm.
>> 
>> Is this guy pulling my chain (pun intended)?  Any feedback appreciated.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Contact list-owner rlynker@mindspring.com with any questions or problems.
>
>-- 
>Mike Taylor
>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Lane/5887
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Contact list-owner rlynker@mindspring.com with any questions or problems.
> 

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:43:26 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: Anyone not own a Jump N Carry?

AHHHHHHHH  ewhats a jumpin carrie
meso@pamlico.net
Steve
North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: Master Costanzo <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 8:48 PM
Subject: Anyone not own a Jump N Carry?


> If not, go get one now!
> 
> 
> Ray Costanzo
> 87 409 Cutlass
> 84 3.8 Calais
> Bucks County, PA
> mailto:costanzo@netcarrier.com
> http://www.user1.netcarrier.com/~costanzo
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:48:15 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: demolition man

Sorry didnt recheck the email while watchin it.   If you haven't seen it,
rent it.  It is a good movie.  Sandra is like a babe and stuff dude.  The
horror of it all is they shot the 70 442. AHHHHHHHHHHHH******SOB****** I had
to cover my eyes and cried like a school girl.  Its all very embarassing.  I
have to go be alone now.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <DROLDS350@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Cc: <DROLDS350@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: demolition man


> What station?
> Jim
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:49:54 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?

I have one in the 72 olds that I am parting out.  It will go to the crusher
unless someone wants it.
meso@pamlico.net
Steve
North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Valentine <ravalent@liii.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?


> Not a flame, but rather just a general question/comment:
>
> Why is there all this trying to transplant longtail 400's into A-bodies?
> Around here, the short tail units are one of the most common trannies -
> it's the longtails that are hard to find!
>
> The short tails are common in tons of mid 70's to mid 80's Cads, Pontiacs,
> Buicks, and (of course) Olds.  It's usually easier to find a good 400 than
> a good 350 unit at most yards here.   Hell, I've got two in my backyard
> that I'll probably never use.
>
>                      -->   Bob Valentine  <--
>                     -->   bob@tecmark.com  <--
>         "Experience varies directly with equipment ruined"
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:50:56 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: demolition man

wow very cool where do I get one!
meso@pamlico.net
Steve
North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Four42much@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: demolition man


> its on FOX......I have the big scale demolition man that shoots
missles..its
> a convertible...W30 442....still in box , unopened...Hot Rod Harry
>

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Date: 13 May 99 20:49:18 PDT
From: Randy Hermsen <76Cutlass@netscape.net>
Subject: Thanks Randy Geisel !!

Read the dia. you sent Randy thanks a million,just confirmed what I found
tonight I took a complete wire harness out a couple weeks ago took a good look
got what I needed confirmed by your diagrams.Wont feel so bad when I turn the
key (next day or two)thought I might blow up the trhing after doin all this
work plus cash thanks again bro.
                             Randy  #3 I guess?
                               76 cutlass supreme
                                 72 cutlass supreme ( really want to work rest
of the night and turn key NOWWWWWW!!!!

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:51:47 -0400
From: J Chermack/C&M Classic Parts <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Indy/Brickyard Tix FS (non-Olds)

A friend of mine is selling her Indy (Memorial Day weekend) and Brickyard
(August 7/8) tickets for this year.  If anyone is interested, please email
me privately and I'll put you in touch with her.

Thanks!

Joanne Chermack
(wife of) C&M Classic Parts
'98 Intrigue

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:01:54 -0700
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: demolition man

steve harris wrote:
> 
> Hi all on list
> The demolition man is on tv tonight!   There is a 442 guest staring on
> this one.  It has a tragic ending tho.  They put the 442 to his
> death :(        ........ooooops sorry didn't mean to give away the
> end.

At what point does the 442 die?  I saw it get shot, jumped, smashed and
scraped but it was still more or less in one piece.  I heard it got
blown up in the movie, but never saw the part where it happens.

On a related note, where did they get the lame-o engine sound effects
for that thing?  Definitly not the bellow of a rocket 455.  The 260 in
my Calais sounds meaner than that thing did.  They must have used a BMW
V-8 sound effect or something like that.  Just wasn't nearly mean
enough.  

Come to think of it, I heard no Q-Jet BAUF either when Sandra Bullock
punched it.

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser 
67 Cutlass Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais
73 98 LS

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Date: 13 May 99 20:33:25 PDT
From: Randy Hermsen <76Cutlass@netscape.net>
Subject: points gap?demo man

Good evening list members need points gap info for 72 350 rocket got no book
till maybe this weekend...how wide the gap??? in demo man the olds has t-roofs
in first shots then no t-roofs later takes????lol
                   Randy
                      76 cutlass supreme
                        72 saturn gold cutlass supreme conv.
          T.I.A.

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:09:15 -0400
From: "steve harris" <meso@pamlico.net>
Subject: Re: demolition man

DUDE THEY SHOT IT MAN.  DO YOU NOT FEEL THE PAIN........AAAHHHHHHH.  It may
have had a holey carb.  That is why you did not hear the
***BOG****CHOKE***PUKE** then the acceleration of the motor that qudrajunk
will produce.:)
meso@pamlico.net
Steve
North Carolina
ICQ#26466860
http://members.xoom.com/DR_OLDS/442index.html
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: demolition man


> steve harris wrote:
> >
> > Hi all on list
> > The demolition man is on tv tonight!   There is a 442 guest staring on
> > this one.  It has a tragic ending tho.  They put the 442 to his
> > death :(        ........ooooops sorry didn't mean to give away the
> > end.
>
> At what point does the 442 die?  I saw it get shot, jumped, smashed and
> scraped but it was still more or less in one piece.  I heard it got
> blown up in the movie, but never saw the part where it happens.
>
> On a related note, where did they get the lame-o engine sound effects
> for that thing?  Definitly not the bellow of a rocket 455.  The 260 in
> my Calais sounds meaner than that thing did.  They must have used a BMW
> V-8 sound effect or something like that.  Just wasn't nearly mean
> enough.
>
> Come to think of it, I heard no Q-Jet BAUF either when Sandra Bullock
> punched it.
>
> Greg Pruett
> 72 Vista Cruiser
> 67 Cutlass Supreme
> 80 Cutlass Calais
> 73 98 LS
>

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:07:52 -0400
From: "Randy Geisel" <Rocket455@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Spark plug wire lenght and other questions.

 
> 5) Another question, should there be heat shields on both motor mounts?  

Just one, on the left side I think. 

Randy

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:19:06 -0500
From: riksab@postoffice.swbell.net
Subject: Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.

HELLO,i'm keeping a close eye on this thread,i live in K.C.Missouri i drive a
69 98
and want to go to irving TX.in june for the meet
Q;.
1.Is this indeed a caravan of oldsmobiles going to irving?
2.what day will the train be in K.C?
3.I've never been to a national meet,Which days are the most enjoyable?
4.I'm not a O.C.A member do i still get good treatment from
hotels,parking,admission?
any reply would be helpful in planning!
thanx,
CHRIS.-1969-98 2dr.holiday hardtop.

Lou Biggs wrote:

> K;
> Will look for you, please do, but hope to be fixed by then.
> Lou
>
> ----------
> > From: KarlAunan@aol.com
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: Great Midwestern Caravan of 1999.
> > Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 11:38 AM
> >
> > In a message dated 99-05-12 16:14:58 EDT, you write:
> >
> > << Planning on going if physical able, will let you know ahead of time.
> >>
> >
> > Will stop by either case.
> > Seems to be on the way.
> >
> > K

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:47:04 -0700
From: Greg Pruett <gregp@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: demolition man

steve harris wrote:
> 
> DUDE THEY SHOT IT MAN.  DO YOU NOT FEEL THE PAIN........AAAHHHHHHH.

Yeah, that doesn't exaclty buff out, does it?  :)

If it make you feel any better, the car they shot up was a bondo-ed up
cutlass with 1 good side, and a 350 motor I believe.  I read a magazine
article about the cars in the movie.  If I remember correctly they used
3 cars.  One actual 442 in pristine shape for the beauty shots where
Stallone and Bullock jumped in and out.  One was a nice cutlass with
some 442 badges that did all the tire squealing and airborn stuff.  The
third car was the bondo buggy that got shot up and smashed. 

>  It may
> have had a holey carb.  That is why you did not hear the
> ***BOG****CHOKE***PUKE** then the acceleration of the motor that qudrajunk
> will produce.:)

Hope that doesn't start another Q-jet VS Holley thread.  It happens from
time to time you know. :)

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser
67 Cutalss Supreme
80 Cutlass Calais
73 98 LS

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:39:22 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: points gap?demo man

plug gap should be .045" and Demo man......T-Tops? uh........no I have the
video NO t-tops at all trust me.......but whatever you are drinkin I'll take
a double..........KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Hermsen <76Cutlass@netscape.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:33 PM
Subject: points gap?demo man


> Good evening list members need points gap info for 72 350 rocket got no
book
> till maybe this weekend...how wide the gap??? in demo man the olds has
t-roofs
> in first shots then no t-roofs later takes????lol
>                    Randy
>                       76 cutlass supreme
>                         72 saturn gold cutlass supreme conv.
>           T.I.A.
>
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:41:37 -0500
From: Kerry Kroger <kerryk@cwix.com>
Subject: Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?

its because it came withe 455 with the complimentry delta 88 or 98 styled
carrying case and attached transmission......KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Valentine <ravalent@liii.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Turbo 400 long tail in A-body?


> Not a flame, but rather just a general question/comment:
>
> Why is there all this trying to transplant longtail 400's into A-bodies?
> Around here, the short tail units are one of the most common trannies -
> it's the longtails that are hard to find!
>
> The short tails are common in tons of mid 70's to mid 80's Cads, Pontiacs,
> Buicks, and (of course) Olds.  It's usually easier to find a good 400 than
> a good 350 unit at most yards here.   Hell, I've got two in my backyard
> that I'll probably never use.
>
>                      -->   Bob Valentine  <--
>                     -->   bob@tecmark.com  <--
>         "Experience varies directly with equipment ruined"
>
>
>

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Date: 13 May 99 21:52:34 PDT
From: Randy Hermsen <76Cutlass@netscape.net>
Subject: dis.point gap?t-tops YES

Kerry I need distributor point gap not dwell no meter yet 
     I have video also from gift for three weeks since I bought 72 conv.
rewind to beginning of cutlass scenes you will see out line of installed
t-tops in car next scenes no t-tops ...only one beer so far tonight
thanks,,,wife just told me ...oh well Ill let her tell you Kricket meet
Kerry.....Hey Kerry
Kricket here, he probly put me on because I type faster then him. lol

But the part where there is T-Tops is when he is jumping off the roof of the
Cutlass and onto the cop car. That is where you will see T-Tops, then later,
the next time you see the car there is no T-Tops. 
lol
ok he told me to just send this off.
So have a good one. 

        Randy 76 Cutlass Supreme
              72 Cutlass Supreme Conv.


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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:03:16 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: point gap

List,

            As long as I can remember the point
gap was "a matchbook cover" ............
actually .017 --------------

The General

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:37:42 EDT
From: Four42much@aol.com
Subject: Re: demolition man

In a message dated 5/13/99 11:46:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
meso@pamlico.net writes:

<< wow very cool where do I get one!
 meso@pamlico.net >>
They are around...I bought mine new for 20 bucks but now they are up to 70 to 
90 dollars in unopened boxes....Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:30:34 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: demolition man

At what point does the 442 die?  I saw it get shot, jumped, smashed and
scraped but it was still more or less in one piece.  I heard it got
blown up in the movie, but never saw the part where it happens.
________

Actually, if you look closely, all the bullet holes are in easily replaceable
parts like the headlights and the windshield.  The blown up 442 you're thinking
of is likely the scene in Karate Kid XXVII, or something like that.

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:32:42 -0400
From: Padavano.Joe@Orbital.COM
Subject: Re: demolition man

DUDE THEY SHOT IT MAN.  DO YOU NOT FEEL THE PAIN........AAAHHHHHHH.  It may
have had a holey carb. ...
______

Yep, after being shot at, it definitely had a "holey" carb...

Joe Padavano
padavano.joe@orbital.com

66 442
68 W-30
69 H/O
69 442
70 W-30

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:37:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Olds Club

First of a bunch; respond to lmp@cyberis.net if you know. 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	lmp <lmp@cyberis.net>
Subject: club

We own a Oldsmobile and are trying to locate the club closes to our
area.  We live in Eugene, OR.  (The Willamette Valley)

Any h*lp.  Thank you.

Linda Perkins

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:40:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '76 98 FS

Not on the list; respond to poke@clinton.net if interested.

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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Poke <poke@clinton.net>
Subject: 1976 Olds

Having lost my storage space, I would like to sell my 1976 Olds  98. Its
a 4door hardtime with 68k miles, in excellent shape


  poke@clinton.net

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:41:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 1903 Olds

An interesting one; respond to dneu@ptdprolog.net if you can assist.

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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Dusan Neumann <dneu@ptdprolog.net>
Subject: 1903 Olds

Gentlmen,

my friend in England owns 1903 Oldsmobile. He would like to trace the
history of this car. The car was registered in New York.
 It has a round plaque   "Registered ........... Motor vehicle Law"
"No.31222 New York"
Can anybody advice where he can find some answers?

Thanks

Dusan Neumann

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:42:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Who repairs Delco radios?

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Frank Iezzi <fiezzi@gcfn.org>
Subject: Who repairs Delco radios?

Olds friends,
Does anyone have first hand info on who repairs Delco radios?
Any help greatly appreciated.  I have a stereo radio, but one
channel (side) is out...
Thanks in advance for any help/info!
Frank Iezzi
Columbus OH
OCA 5594
69 Cutlass 'S' W-31
and others

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:43:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 

The "H*LP" word... forwarding.

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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"M. Barberree" <eaglegrl@c-gate.net>
Subject: H*LP!  MISSING HOOD "DISC PIN!"

Hi.  Melissa, here. =20

I borrowed my boyfriend's 1970 4-4-2 last weekend (yes, with his =
consent!).  When I got back home, I noticed that some transmission fluid =
was leaking from the car, so I attempted to raise the hood to ascertain =
the source of the leak.  Well, as you probably know, there are two discs =
on either side of the hood that must be turned about 180 degrees in =
order to release the hood latches.

I could not fully complete the necessary turning arc in order to release =

the left disc, so drove a few houses down to my neighbor's for some =
help.  Well, I shouldn't have done that... 'cause the little pin that =
holds or is in that disc fell off, and, of course, is way too small to =
find.

I need to replace this pin.  Does anyone know where I can find a pin  or =
pins, or will I need to replace the entire disc?  Where could I find =
these?

Thanks soooooo much!

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:44:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Desperately Seeking Restoration

Not on the list; respond to polypub@earthlink.net with suggestions.

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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: Desperately Seeking Restoration 
From:	"polychrome" <polypub@earthlink.net>

Greetings

I have a 1971 Olds Cutlass Convertible in need of a good restoration job.
Not some Body and fender guy that will slap paint over duct tape and give it
a 90 day warranty. But someone who truly sees the car as a classic work of
art as they were intended to be. And who would be willing to bring it back
once again to a great looking automobile. It does not have to be super show
quality just a good job done with pride for the original work.

If anyone can recommend anyone in the MidWest who does such work, they can
save yet another classic from an early and untimely grave. Along with my
eternal gratitude and appreciation.

Please contact me, Brian at:

polypub@earthlink.net

Thanks

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