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oldsmobile-digest       Saturday, May 29 1999       Volume 01 : Number 1984



Sign from above : Short Olds Story
Re: No crack dash
Re: No crack dash
Re: No crack dash
classiccutlass.com
Re: OK, An Olds post for a change
Re: Off topic but important
Re: pickle forx
Memorial day
DROPPING MOTORS (WAS Re: 600 mile engine photos)
Re: DROPPING MOTORS (WAS Re: 600 mile engine photos)
Re: 600 mile engine photos
Re: Off topic but important
Re: 15" trim rings
Re: DROPPING MOTORS (WAS Re: 600 mile engine photos)
Hammering on spindles (was: pickle forx)
Re: Surface rust on PSI plate
Re: 1965 442 Experts
Re: Surface rust on PSI plate
WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)
Re: No crack dash
RE: No crack dash
[none]
UNBOUNCE: 79 Cutlass or parts for sale
UNBOUNCE: 1968 Olds 442 For Sale
UNBOUNCE: Chicage Meet
Just Dashes are great.
Re: Chicage Meet
Re: pickle forx
Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)
OK, Karl lost that one! was: pickle forx
Is it really illegal to strangle counter people?
1964 Vista Cruiser webpage
Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)
Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)
1964 Vista Cruiser webpage, again...
NAL=OK!
Re: SHACK: Re: Post your Olds adds/links/pics/whatever here
'67-8-9 water pump shells avail
Need 78 Salon Info
Re: New Olds'
[Fwd: CLASSIC OLDS FOR SALE, ONE OWNER]
Does this company exist?
Re: Does this company exist?
Re: OK, An Olds post for a change
New Teaser Pics
Re: 600 mile engine photos
Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)
Needed:  68 Cutlass rear bumper bracket
RE: New Teaser Pics
EXHAUST MANIFOLDS
Re:phenoma find
Headers....
Re: F-85 1963
RE: Sale Places for HurstOlds
1971 442 2dr hdtop W/O moldings
Memorial day
Re: Does this company exist?
Round 19, carb problems
Re: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS
Re: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS
UNBOUNCE: 1971 442 2dr hdtop W/O moldings
Re: Round 19, carb problems
Re: 403 into 86 442

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:53:33 -0500
From: "David Popadic" <davepop@execpc.com>
Subject: Sign from above : Short Olds Story

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Here's a short story that I feel some of you may enjoy!

I have a 67 Cutlass Convertible.  I live in Racine, WI and work in =
Milwaukee.  I try to drive the car every Friday to work, weather =
permitting.  So far this year, every time I drive it to work, I have =
problems.  Nothing major, just REALLY annoying.  First Friday, the =
alternator gave out, second Friday, lost a trim ring, and this morning =
on the way to work I lost a center cap.  Like I said really annoying.  I =
drove this car to Lake Geneva and back yesterday (120+ Miles), no =
problem.  Drove this car all over the place on the weekends, no problem. =
 Drive it to work.  HUH!!!!

I think it's a sign from above NOT TO WORK ON FRIDAY!!!!!!


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:07:58 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: No crack dash

In a message dated 5/27/99 11:50:08 PM EST, Eckie@Prater.com writes:

<< I need an uncracked dash for a 75 Olds Delta 88 vert.
 Anyone know of a source? >>

Hey, if you find two.......
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv (duals of course)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:00:18 -0400
From: Mark Hahn <mahahn@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: No crack dash

JonKrisInc@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 5/27/99 11:50:08 PM EST, Eckie@Prater.com writes:
>
> << I need an uncracked dash for a 75 Olds Delta 88 vert.
>  Anyone know of a source? >>
>
> Hey, if you find two.......
> Bruce
>

Make that 3!!
Mark
75 Delta 88 Royale Convertible
(soon to be duals)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:36:52 PDT
From: "Ioannis Kouramanis" <kourama@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: No crack dash

from the parts section on www.442.com:

Just Dashes
5941 Lemona Ave.
Van Nuys, CA 91411
(800) 247-3274
Dash Fabrication / Restoration

>Hi list,
>I need an uncracked dash for a 75 Olds Delta 88 vert.
>Anyone know of a source?
>Thanks.
>Eckie Prater
>75 Olds vert
>73 Buick Electra
>73 Pontiac Catalina Safari Wagon
>
>


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:43:13 -0400
From: Darren King <KingD@sx.com>
Subject: classiccutlass.com

Good point Drew.  One thing that is missing on 442.com
is information model years after 72.  I know these cars are
not as desireable as 68-72 Cutlii but I was looking for more 
info on my 79 Salon and didn't find much on 442.com.  Maybe
Shack should expend some effort on getting tech info on
other years.  Also Cutlass wagon's! 

Darren

> David,
>
> The members of this list spent much time compiling the information
> that is in the FAQ, and it is already publicly available.  In
> addition, Bryce accepts articles, pictures, and info for inclusion on
> www.442.com.  I don't mean to rain on your parade, but 442.com has
> been around and is established.  If I have info to relate, then it's
> going to 442.com and/or the FAQ.  Centralized information is the most
> useful tool that we have as enthusiasts and restorers, and thus far, the
> focal point has been 442.com.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:44:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stefan Gadecki <sgadecki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OK, An Olds post for a change

  I know a guy who has a 73 omega 4 door.  It's in decent shape, and
he's selling it.  I saw it about 8 months ago, so I don't know if he
still has it, but if you can use anything off of it, let me know and
I'll see if he still has it.

Stefan
1970 Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe
70Cutlass@Beer.com


- --- Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com> wrote:
> In an attempt to keep this from turning into the "Off Topic" list
> I've got
> a few Olds related requests.
> 
> I need for a '74 2dr Omega the following. (All must be nice)
> 
> 2 rear bumpers
> 1 front bumper
> 2 sets of tail light trim
> 1 set of tail light lenses
> 2 sets of license plate hole trim
> 2 front fenders
> 1 fiberglass front grill piece
> black interior panels for a hatchback
> 2 sets of Omega S side stripes. (email if you want a pic of what they
> look
> like)
> Any emblems whatsoever
> Thats about it off the top of my head
> 
> And anything else that belongs on a '74 Omega is considered too. 
> 
> If anyone should happen to go yarding around anytime soon, keep any
> eye
> open and let me know if you find anything. 
> 
> Thanks and take care
> 
> Omega Man
> '74 Omega S 455/auto
> '74 Omega 455/4spd (someday)
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:48:18 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

>Sorry if it's fake, it sure came at me from the blind side.
[...]
>This came from a respected member of the ministry in my town.
>I'll stop it from my end if it's fake.

It is. Just for yucks, I tracked down references to that rather unique 
phrase in the mailing address of "Perimeter Centre East", and these 
send-a-card hoaxes just came popping up like dandelions. Here's three of 
them, showing what the kid's name was in each case, and what his supposed 
age was. Strangely, each one of them did manage to get the mailing address 
correct, though.  :-)

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/7535/geobook1.html -- Craig Shirgold 
(7 yrs. old)

http://www.kellylabs.com/vintagebnet/_disc1/000001e5.htm -- Craig Sherford 
(17 yrs. old)

http://wrbu.si.edu/www/stockwell/list/text/Digest-30.txt -- Craig Shirgold 
(8 yrs. old)

Anyway, I want to apologize to Ed for jumping all over his good intentions, 
and hope you all drive carefully this weekend.

- -- Andy


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:23:11 -0400
From: Doug Ahern <doug@mail.RATH.PeachNet.EDU>
Subject: Re: pickle forx

On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 10:30:15PM -0400, Chris Brown Witt wrote:
> Better buy a cheapie "pickle fork" ball joint seperator while you're
> there.
> -------
> NO, as noted, poor steel only spreads apart, either buy a real good one, or 
do
> w/out. One great way to separate taper fit joints is to loosen nut but leave 
on

I second this!  I was in a junkyard 2 hours from home once when a cheapo
fork split apart!  luckily, I managed to do the suspension work with another
pickle fork I had with me.

many of us do our work when 1/2 of not all the parts stores are closed,
when a cheap tool breaks it can monkey a project for an entire weekend,
or evening....  maybe the only evening or weekend available for sometime
to come!

Doug

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:49:09 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Memorial day

All;
Have a great weekend, if you come through Illinois watch your butt, the man
is out big time. Cart 300 is at Gateway this weekend, they have police cars
surrounding the roads going to the track. Guess they think race fans are
speeders, no idea how they could ever think that. HA.

Lou (Master) Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
oca#31353

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:21:46 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: DROPPING MOTORS (WAS Re: 600 mile engine photos)

(SNIP)

  Like he said, probably dropped.  It a shame that
>some ASS would do something to such a nice motor.
>
>

So how many of you guys have ever dropped an engine on the floor?
I'll be the first to admit it. I'm an ASS. I knocked over a chevy 454 short 
block and took a chunk out of the garage floor. A couple years later I dropped
my completed 350 Nova motor on the floor and bent the valve cover wing
bolts and
one of the valve covers. In neither case did any internal damage happen
though. 
Damn 3 wheeled engine stands. I made that baby into a 4 wheeler and braced
the hell out of it before I put my 455 rocket on it. Hey Lou, I welded the
sh*t out of that thing! Now she rolls and turns like a dream and is much,
much more
stable.

Omega Man

'74 Omega S 455/auto
'74 Omega 455/4spd (in a year or 2)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:47:02 -0500
From: tonwald@eta.k12.mn.us (Tony Waldner)
Subject: Re: DROPPING MOTORS (WAS Re: 600 mile engine photos)

>(SNIP)
>
>  Like he said, probably dropped.  It a shame that
>>some ASS would do something to such a nice motor.
>>
>>
>
>So how many of you guys have ever dropped an engine on the floor?


Guilty as charged Gene!!!  I have dropped two engines out of the 200 or
more that I have slung.  My first was a 429 Ford with a big long C-6 behind
it as I was lowering it into a 72 T-bird.  If a snapped bolt on the sling
chain makes me an ass than I am a nicer guy than I thought!  The Ford
survived the fall, with the crank pulley putting a nice u-shaped mark in
the core support. It ran fine afterward.

Drop number 2 happened to a nice low mile 455 Toro motor that I was moving
on a fork lift. A hose on the fork hydraulic control failed and the bed
tipped forward and the motor slid off and dropped about2 feet.  Scrach one
toro oil pan and crank pulley.  A pan change, adjust oil pickup, new crank
pulley and the motor runs fine.  Ass move number two!

Thus completes my motor dropping history!

Tony (Two-time ass)

70 442 W-30
70 442 W-30 convert
70 Toro GT W-34
65 Jetstar 88 w/4-speed
84 Hurst/Olds
85 Cutlass Salon 455 Drag Racer

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:44:56 -0400
From: "gjcouse" <gjcouse@francomm.com>
Subject: Re: 600 mile engine photos

I wish you luck Corey. What a mess they made. Your right, does look like it
was drooped on its caps. Unbelievable from a shop of its claimed caliber. By
the miss-matched cap bolts, certainly not a cared about workmanship.

- -----Regards,

Gary J. Couse
Couse Custom's

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:52:50 EDT
From: Four42much@aol.com
Subject: Re: Off topic but important

Glad the mail didnt come yet....thanks for the warning on the fraud of this 
topic...
Hot Rod Harry

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:54:18 +0000
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: 15" trim rings

Hi all,

FIFTY7C@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hope the NOS rings your ordered work. Please let me know.. I ordered "NOS"
> from Fusick - no luck. They would not fit.

Have you tried the local flea markets?  I found a huge array of trim rings at
our local one.  Of course I think they have an involuntary "recycling" program
whereas you buy the rings, next week they disappear from your car, you go buy
new rings that look just like your old ones :0  Repeat and recycle.

Or, find a cattle guard on a curve and snoop around the ditches.  If you don't
find what you are looking for then you should, at least, get a couple of
hubcaps that you can trade at said market for the ring(s).  I have about 6
rings in the garage that I found in ditches.
- -- 

Cliff "Scrounger" Simpson
mailto:csimpson@ucalgary.ca
'69 442,400,th400,3.31p (Kermit)
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:57:36 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: DROPPING MOTORS (WAS Re: 600 mile engine photos)

>So how many of you guys have ever dropped an engine on the floor?

Oh, boy... I still visions of that 455 on a 3-wheel hoist, _teetering_ on 2 
wheels. Fortunately it came back down again. Several morals to the story:

- -- Get a 4-wheel hoist if at all possible
- -- Put the largest-diameter wheels on it that you can
- -- SWEEP THE FLOOR; in our case the hoist hit a tiny concrete chip on the 
floor and the little left-side wheel stopped dead. The rest of the hoist 
kept on going.  :-}

- -- Andy


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:40 
From: "John Carri" <jcarri@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: Hammering on spindles (was: pickle forx)

Chris Brown Witt wrote:
<snipped>
......One great way to separate taper fit joints is to loosen nut but 
leave on threads. If spring loads it to come apart, all the better. 
Now, with a BIG hammer and a drift if necessary, smack the outer part 
SIDEWAYS, along an axis perpendicular to that of the tapered pin. With 
a big enough hammer, I have never known this manner to fail. With too 
small a hammer, no amount of hitting will loosen it.
_____________________________________

I recently replaced the lower ball-joints on my '72 Supreme, they were 
Moog units, and the instruction sheet that came in the box with each 
one specifically states that one should *never* hammer on a spindle, 
as that can cause sudden failure of the spindle later. Note that this 
advice came directly from a very respected manufacturer of suspension 
parts, who should know what they are talking about.

It is easy to start a microscopic crack or other stress-riser in a 
part by hammering on it, and this can later grow into a big enough 
crack to break the part in two.

Anyone who has experienced the loss of a wheel at high speed (I did!) 
knows that this is not a risk to be taken lightly.....

- -John put-away-the-hammer Carri
'72 Supreme
'73 RoadRunner
 

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:07:33 -0700
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Re: Surface rust on PSI plate

>Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:39:38 -0500
>From: Paul Brillhart <pbrill1@uic.edu>
>Subject: Re: Surface rust on PSI plate

>>Reed, Stephen wrote:
 
>> List,
>>         I was looking at my pressure plate this week, and since it has
been
>> in the garage it has developed some surface rust.  Besides using
>> scotchbrite, what grit sand paper would you suggest to remove this
surface
>> rust?  I have not yet tried using scotchbrite, but would like to hear any
>> advice anyone might have.
>> 
>> Thanx!
>> 
>> Steve Reed
>> Austin, TX


>Steve,

> I assume this is a new pressure plate you're talking about.  I was in
>Dallas two weeks ago for work and I can believe the humidity did that. 
>Up in Chicago, I got no surface rust on my new Center Force Dual
>Friction that was sitting in the box for 1 1/2 years before my pilot
>bearing went south forcing me to replace everything before I was going
>to(wanted to wait until my 425 was done...in the fall). 

Yes, this is exactly the same model I have.  It only has about 15 miles on
it, and about an hour on the 455.  I had to slap my '70 ragtop together real
quick to get it moved down to TX for free.  Now after having taken the
engine & transmission out to do my floor pans ~the right way~ (Long story!)
the PSI plate has developed surface rust from the high humidity down here.
(Man it was nice having a basement in NY with a dehumidifier for my part
storage!)


>Anyway, if it's
>minimal surface rust, a croakus(?sp) cloth with some thinner for
>lubrication worked well for a buddy of mine who had very high humdity in
>is basement and had his resurfaced flywheel down there for two
>years.(Always grease 'em for storage....of course it's always nice to
>wipe it off before installation.)  It may take awhile, just remember to
>evenly apply pressure, alternate in clockwise, counter clockwise and
>work it in a fashion that slowly takes the entire face down.  Don't do
>one spot at a time. His worked out fine..except that it's in a Nova(box
>on a box type Chevy.) He's running a 400 small block with a B&M Blower
>and has had the assembly runing since early Spring.

>Good luck.

>Paul

Thanx for the advice I appreciate it!

Steve Reed
Austin, TX

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:09:46 EDT
From: R4C442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1965 442 Experts

You are exactly right Paul.
										
		Ron Forsee
										
		65 442-Meister

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:18 -0700
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Re: Surface rust on PSI plate

>Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:36:49 EDT
>From: DYeager535@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Surface rust on PSI plate

>In a message dated 5/27/99 2:17:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>sreed@chatsworth.com writes:

>>< List,
>> 	I was looking at my pressure plate this week, and since it has been
>> in the garage it has developed some surface rust.  Besides using
>> scotchbrite, what grit sand paper would you suggest to remove this
surface
>> rust?  I have not yet tried using scotchbrite, but would like to hear any
>> advice anyone might have.
 
>> Thanx!
 
>> Steve Reed
	
>	Just replacing my truck clutch. It says if FLYWHEEL is rusty, just 
>take the rust off, but don't use fine sandpaper...it needs to grip the
clutch 
>disk. Dorian

Dorian,
	Yes unfortunately a blast of WD-40 didn't protect the flywheel
either.  I'll have to get that resurfaced.

Steve Reed
Austin, TX

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:22:19 -0400
From: Gene Gilpin <ggilpin@wrallp.com>
Subject: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)

>Anyone who has experienced the loss of a wheel at high speed (I did!) 
>knows that this is not a risk to be taken lightly.....
>
>-John put-away-the-hammer Carri
>'72 Supreme
>'73 RoadRunner
> 



Ok, So who else has lost a wheel driving down the road?
Back in '92 I was about a mile from my house driving this '77 Camaro I had
back then. I was doing about 50mph and felt a vibration start to come on
that was accompanied with a grinding/growing sound (tire hitting wheel
lip). Not knowing any better I assumed my rear was about to blow up so I
tried to make it to my driveway. Just as I crested the hill 1/4 mile from
the end of my driveway the vibration turned into the worst
vibrating/growling shimmy I've ever experienced and all of a sudden
WHAAAAAM!! My car jerked sideways about a foot and the left rear dropped
down and I though "WHAT THE HELL!!" I thought my rear broke in half until I
saw my rear tire heading out through a field doing about 60mph. My brake
rotor took of on its own adventure too. Well thank god for cheap $20 bolt
on slapper bars. I coasted the last 700 or 800 feet to the end of my
driveway and pulled in. Took about 1/16 inch of metal off the bottom of my
traction bar and left a nice groove in the road but at least the rear
didn't touch the ground. Marked up the wheel well but didn't rip anything
up. Of course it was raining too. Couldn't have a disaster without it
raining on top of it. So I hopped in the ol' Jeep wagoneer and up the road
I went in search of my escaped wheel and rotor. Found 'em both. Never found
even one lug nut. Make sure those lugs are torqued to spec folks. And if
you get a nasty vibration that seems to come from nowhere, pull over right
then and there and check the lugs. You won't get very far up the road
otherwise.

Olds Content: Thank the good lord it wasn't the Omega :)

Omega Man
'74 Omega S 455/auto
'74 Omega 455/4spd (in my mind)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:24:39 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: No crack dash

In a message dated 5/28/99 9:39:58 AM EST, kourama@hotmail.com writes:

<< Just Dashes
 5941 Lemona Ave.
 Van Nuys, CA 91411
 (800) 247-3274
 Dash Fabrication / Restoration
  >>

I spoke to them. They sent me a brochure showing what a professional job they 
do but they want $650. Eeeeowww! Hey, maybe if we can get for or five jobs 
for them, they might drop the price. Anyone have any pull with them?
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv (duals of course)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:43:21 -0500
From: Mickey.Womack@ULTRAK.com
Subject: RE: No crack dash

If this does happen let me know cause I need mine done and so does my
dad.

Mickey
1968 Cutlass "S" Conv

Dad
1969 Lemans Conv

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	JonKrisInc@aol.com [SMTP:JonKrisInc@aol.com]
> Sent:	Friday, May 28, 1999 1:25 PM
> To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject:	Re: No crack dash
> 
> In a message dated 5/28/99 9:39:58 AM EST, kourama@hotmail.com writes:
> 
> << Just Dashes
>  5941 Lemona Ave.
>  Van Nuys, CA 91411
>  (800) 247-3274
>  Dash Fabrication / Restoration
>   >>
> 
> I spoke to them. They sent me a brochure showing what a professional
> job they 
> do but they want $650. Eeeeowww! Hey, maybe if we can get for or five
> jobs 
> for them, they might drop the price. Anyone have any pull with them?
> Bruce
> 75 Delta 88 conv (duals of course)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:40:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: [none]

First of several, respond to schnehe@juno.com if interested.

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Subject: '67 Delta 88 2DHT For Sale!
From:	Mark A Janda <schnehe@juno.com>

I am selling a 1967 Oldsmobile Delta 88.  It has the 425 High Compression
engine, 4bbl carb, and dual exhaust,   The upholstery, carpets, and vinyl
top have been redone.  It has 86k orig. miles although the title doesn't
reflect that.  It has the original gold paint and it is in pretty good
condition, although it does have some parking lot rash type dings on the
doors.  It is in great original condition.  You can see a picture of it
at www.442.com/janda.html.  I am sacrificing it for $3500 obo.  If you
are interested, contact me directly at schnehe@juno.com, because I am not
on the mailing list.  I am located in Chandler, AZ. 

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:41:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 79 Cutlass or parts for sale

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	brain@luis.yourwebhost.com
Subject: 79 Cutlass or parts for sale
Reply-To: brain@mail.jbrain.com

Supreme Brogham 79 (260 Engine)

Dark blue exterior/light blue interior.

Engine and brake work needed.

Rally wheels/stereo/amps/extra interior parts/factopry moonroof.

Selling asis or for parts.

If anyone wants a part, please reply to me personally (so as not to clog up
the list), and let's talk.

We are in Omaha, NE.

Reason:   car needs TLC, and I cannot provide it at this time.  I am hoping
that one of you fine folks will decide to fix up a 79 Olds Cutlass at some
point in the future and will fix up a nice blue one with a sunroof.  Then, in
10 years, when you are done with the car, and would like to sell your restored
79, look me up, because I would like to buy it.

:-)

Jim

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Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!      -Me-
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:42:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 1968 Olds 442 For Sale

Respond to m_alexander@infoserve.net if interested.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Mark Alexander <m_alexander@infoserve.net>
Subject: 1968 Olds 442 For Sale

I have a 100% complete and stock, fully loaded '68 442 that needs some
restoration.  The trouble is I don't have the facility nor the time to
work on it.  Anyone in the Vancouver B.C. area interested in restoring a
beautiful car can contact me via email.

Mark Alexander

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:43:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Chicage Meet

Assumed to be on the list at a different address; forwarding.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"Joe Centanni" <jacentan@mail.icongrp.com>
Subject: Chicago meet

How many folks here are in the Chicago area?
And of you how many of you have heard of Blue Top on Rt. 41 in Highland, IN?
Lets pick a day and set up a meet.......Like a Sat nite so we can squeeze
out the 5.slows*L*.....Any takers?
Theres also Duke's and a cruise nite in Downer's Grove lets start an olds
following at the local haunts.....
Yeah or nay, lets pick a day
Later
Jeremy 87 442

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:58:26 -0700
From: Chris Fair <cfair@FairIsaac.com>
Subject: Just Dashes are great.

These guys are great. They've done both my dashes and perfectly. 

my 2 cents
cf

- -----Original Message-----
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com [mailto:JonKrisInc@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 11:25 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: No crack dash


In a message dated 5/28/99 9:39:58 AM EST, kourama@hotmail.com writes:

<< Just Dashes
 5941 Lemona Ave.
 Van Nuys, CA 91411
 (800) 247-3274
 Dash Fabrication / Restoration
  >>

I spoke to them. They sent me a brochure showing what a professional job
they 
do but they want $650. Eeeeowww! Hey, maybe if we can get for or five jobs 
for them, they might drop the price. Anyone have any pull with them?
Bruce
75 Delta 88 conv (duals of course)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:14:47 PDT
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Chicage Meet

>How many folks here are in the Chicago area?
[...]
>There's also Duke's and a cruise nite in Downer's Grove.
>Let's start an Olds following at the local haunts.....

Just as a data point, there's also a get-together in Rolling Meadows, IL, 
every Friday evening. I've seen upwards of a couple-dozen cars there, all 
brands. It's in a large parking lot on the north side of Kirchoff Road, a 
little less than a mile east of the Kirchoff exit from northbound Route 53. 
Look for the McDonald's and turn in there.

- -- Andy


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:20:01 -0500
From: Bryceman <bryceman@442.com>
Subject: Re: pickle forx

>many of us do our work when 1/2 of not all the parts stores are closed,
>when a cheap tool breaks it can monkey a project for an entire weekend,
>or evening....  maybe the only evening or weekend available for sometime
>to come!

Lisle makes a set that includes the ball joint and tie rod forks and
they're designed to attach to an air hammer. They make front end work a
cinch, like a hot knife through butter (most of the time). I think I found
my set at Sears.


Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
J. Bryce Smith
Email: bryceman@442.com
Web: http://442.com

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:20:49 EDT
From: Supafli50@aol.com
Subject: Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)

Happened to me at 70 mph on I-35,  luckily I caught it before the whole wheel 
flew off. Just lots of smoking tires and I ended up in a grassy center median.


Matt
88 Olds Cutlass Supreme Int.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:46:58 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: OK, Karl lost that one! was: pickle forx

In a message dated 99-05-28 15:18:56 EDT, you write:

<< Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles! >>

Sigh!

While Karl is glad that the Bryce-ster is no longer a near-nonentity on 
list....

Karl did wager that Dr. Barry would be the next to re-appear.

And, in all fairness, the Mighty Bryce did not uns(u)b as did others who are 
still missed.

Easy to decide how to spend time between the Olds list and the Apprehender, 
huh?

SOM

&KA

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:07:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: blue442@webtv.net (Jeff Carter)
Subject: Is it really illegal to strangle counter people?

I went to my least favorite local yard about eight years ago in search
of an irrelevant part.  At that time they had two 68 converts and a nice
68 442 hardtop wasting away in the farthest section of the yard.  As one
of the converts was obviously a parts car, I asked about some trim
items.  The clerk denied the cars were even there.  After a short while
he admitted they were there but said the owner had plans for them.  I
respected that.  Even so I checked on them every time I called looking
for whatever item.  "Not for sale" was their response each time.

I went back today in search of another irrelevant part.  After I found
it and not the Olds, I asked about them.  "Aw, we crushed all that old
stuff last year" the clerk tells me.  He didn't know how much I like
cars and how little I care for that attitude.  ARRRRRG!

From now on persons like him are "counter people" to me.  It seems to
have a double meaning.   

Thanks for tuning in.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:02:47 +0200
From: "Jim Hoekendijk" <Jim.Hoekendijk@wxs.nl>
Subject: 1964 Vista Cruiser webpage

Just put up my first edition of my Olds homepage.
It's probably a bit to heavy, sound and big images...
I'll keep working on it!

Jim Hoekendijk
The Netherlands.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:42:35 -0400
From: "Randy Geisel" <Rocket455@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)

> Ok, So who else has lost a wheel driving down the road?

I had the left rear axle pull out in my 70 Cutlass. Luckily I wasn't going
but 30 mph or so. I was a stupid 17 year old that decided to drive the car
with a bent axle tube. C clip gave way and I learned a valuable lesson. No
harm, no foul.

Nobody could figure how I got tire tracks on my drivers door. Ha

Randy

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:52:46 -0400
From: "Fred Blumenauer" <blumenau@symbol.com>
Subject: Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)

Lost  the front left wheel off my 65 Ford Econoline at 65mph many years ago.  
Not much in front for protection, but luckily I guess I had enough weight in 
the rear to soften the landing.  Turned out I didn't have the correct lugs for 
the unilug rims.  Another story of  youth and stupidity.

Fred
blumenau@symbol.com
(3-62 Olds F-85s in various states of disrepair)

>>> "Randy Geisel" <Rocket455@worldnet.att.net> 05/28/99 04:42PM >>>
> Ok, So who else has lost a wheel driving down the road?

I had the left rear axle pull out in my 70 Cutlass. Luckily I wasn't going
but 30 mph or so. I was a stupid 17 year old that decided to drive the car
with a bent axle tube. C clip gave way and I learned a valuable lesson. No
harm, no foul.

Nobody could figure how I got tire tracks on my drivers door. Ha

Randy

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:49:55 +0200
From: "Jim Hoekendijk" <Jim.Hoekendijk@wxs.nl>
Subject: 1964 Vista Cruiser webpage, again...

eeeh, How could I forget? The URL is http://home.wxs.nl/~jimhoek

Jim Hoekendijk,
The Netherlands.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:07:03 -0400
From: "John Pajak" <jspajak@us.hsanet.net>
Subject: NAL=OK!

Joe P wrote:

I've had excellent results with National Automotive Lines (www.natauto.com).

*******
I'd like to second that recommendation. I've bought several items from them
and the prices are low and the delivery is quick!

John Pajak
http://drive/to/pajak

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:40:13 -0500
From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: SHACK: Re: Post your Olds adds/links/pics/whatever here

More info, qualified by experience, on the Internet, can only be a good
thing.

I put the copyright on the FAQ so the Olds Mailing List might be
credited if the information was used verbatim or referenced in some
means. Just to give credit (the list) where credit is due.

I've tried not to duplicate what Bryce has on 442.com, and to put links
in to other sites which contain or supplement the content of the FAQ.
There's only a smattering of worthwhile sites listed in the FAQ. Make
good use of any number of search engines to find the ton of other sites.

- --
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         www.inil.com/users/dlbrown/oldsfaq.htm
          Oldsmobile Mailing List FAQ 4.1 at:
http://www.442.com   OR   http://www.en.com/users/thall
Conserve bandwidth, get the zip file for local viewing:
    ftp://ftp.neurobio.arizona.edu/ftp/lists/olds

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:03:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: '67-8-9 water pump shells avail

just found a small qty of '67-8-9 HDC coolant pump shells, ID's
dot-384783    one ea., day 284
Circle-384786 day 334
Circle-400268 days 131, 144
Circle-400269 days 281, 316, 108, 345

These are bare castings, a bit beat up, may need new nipples [Nat'l Auto. Lines
has those], no shaft or impeller. Rebuild with yours' guts to have THE CORRECT
pump for your car, make a nifty table lamp, whatever.

I think $10 would get one to your door. Any interest at all?

Also got an AL diesel intake lower half that has been experimented on- port to
#5 welded shut, some gizmoadded to #7 port... injection hole plugged with AL
plug. Factory experimental? who knows? Make into a 4x2V intake maybe- AL welds
real easy... ports look very very skinny & narrow for an Olds though...


- --
Chris Witt      *the* Rocket Scientist
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --
517-882-9747 eves/wknds to 11pm MI time
Email text only please, No MIME, no attachments, no pictures.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:40:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Need 78 Salon Info

Have soon opportunity to buy very low mileage [<50k] '78 Salon.

I am thinking... gages, AL hood, buckets, console, 350 motor [maybe 403].

Is this correct, can anyone add things to look for... those AL wheels for
instance.

Reply also direct to me please, digest takes days to catch up with sometimes.

- --
Chris Witt      *the* Rocket Scientist
Lansing, MI :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
- --
517-882-9747 eves/wknds to 11pm MI time
Email text only please, No MIME, no attachments, no pictures.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:33:34 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: New Olds'

Reed, Stephen wrote:
> 
> List,
>         I was just looking over the new cars available by Olds and while
> browsing thru the web pages, I didn't see that any were available with a
> manual transmission.  Does Olds make ~any~ car now available with a manual
> transmission?  I'm a die hard stick shift guy, and hate to see the automatic
> transmission as the only option in cars now.
> 
> Steve Reed
> Austin, TX

I thought some of the Aleros were coming through with manual trans.

Paul
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Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:02:47 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: [Fwd: CLASSIC OLDS FOR SALE, ONE OWNER]

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Forwarding this ad that was sent to me privately.  Thought someone might
be interested.

Paul
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:50:59 EDT
Subject: CLASSIC OLDS FOR SALE, ONE OWNER
To: JoJo442@aol.com
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I have a 1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme Coupe, 350,v-8 rocket, 4bbl, Turbo-Hydra 
Matic 350 Transmission, with 442 Appearance & Handling package I ordered in 
1972.  I have decided to sell, so I am contacting Olds Collectors. Everything 
is original. I have the original papers also. The motor was removed in 1981 
(121,916 miles) & I ran another motor till 1988 (148,034 miles) when I 
replaced the original motor after rebuilding it. the car now has 156,339 
miles. So the original motor since being rebuilt has 8,305 miles on it. The 
interior is perfect. The drivers side has some rust spots. I am asking 
$7,500. If anyone is interested I can be reached at: E-Mail  BEdw77@aol.com 
or Brenda J. Edwards  295 Tuttle Rd, Rural Hall, N.C., 27045 (which is 15 
miles north of Winston-Salem,N.C. Or Phone 336-969-6664


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:14:55 -0400
From: "Randy Geisel" <Rocket455@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Does this company exist?

Has anyone heard of this company? A Little Different, Ltd.

There are some H/O parts on a certain auction sight ;-) that I e-mailed the
seller about. She told me they were made by the above company and that they
were licensed back in the mid  to late 70's to repro H/O parts. I can't
understand why a company would be licensed to make repros for 70's ear H/O's
that soon after production. Does anyone know if this company existed or am I
getting my chain yanked?

TIA,
Randy

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:21:39 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Does this company exist?

Randy Geisel wrote:
> 
> Has anyone heard of this company? A Little Different, Ltd.

Yeah.

> Does anyone know if this company existed or am I
> getting my chain yanked?

I remember reading their ads in Hemmings a few years back.  Couldn't
have been mid to late '70s, I was just a little kid then...

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
Myerstown, PA
mailto:plh@nbn.net

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:49:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim-Bow@webtv.net (James M)
Subject: Re: OK, An Olds post for a change

I need a hood for a 73 omega. If anyone has or knows where i can get
one, please let me know. Any help would be appr.

Jim-Bow   73 Omega

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:20:29 -0600
From: Oldsmagnet <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: New Teaser Pics

Some new pics scanned in real quick.  Check out
http://members.tripod.com/~Oldsmagnet/lazy.htm

Sorry for such a looooong load time, but I stuffed a lot of stuff there.  Gotta
hit the road here pretty quick, so I didn't get too fancy.  Got my "new" 73 Riv
in there, too, for a taste of what it looks like.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:21:23 -0400
From: "Ken" <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: 600 mile engine photos

>> The first one I put together lasted about 50 passes down the 1/4 mile.
>
>What happened to make it last only 50 passes.

You snipped the next sentence.  Motor was fine, but racing season was over
so I took it apart.  Its a strip only car.  New berrings, new pistons and
rods, new heads, new cam, springs, rockers, retainers, locks, pushrods. Car
got a new shifter and new front brake lines.  The stock lines were routed
too close to the headers. I pulled the old 8" converter off the transmission
and all the stuff inside it fell to the bottom.  I was bit upset seeing as
it was just rebuilt.. so add a new torque converter to the list..


Ken

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:42:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim-Bow@webtv.net (James M)
Subject: Re: WHEELS FALLING OFF (WAS Re: Hammering on spindles)

Years ago i had a 63 pont. bonneville 2dr. one that came with 421
tri-power, 4 speed, 390 rear. I was coming around a long clover leaf
about 70 miles an hour, and the right rear wheel came off.Riped up my
quarter panel, scared the hell out of me.The wheel came passed me on the
drivers side doing about what seemed to be about 100 miles an hour, hit
the jersey wall on intestate-695, bounced into on coming traffic, missed
everybody, and rolled about 1/8 mile down the road. I jacked the car up,
took 2 lugs and studs off left side, put them on right side and drove
home real slow. Next day replaced studs and lugs, and had to get 2 new
shocks. Come to find out someone tried to steal my mags, thats why lugs
were loose.

Jim-Bow   73 Omega

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:43:03 -0500
From: Dan Williams <442much@home.com>
Subject: Needed:  68 Cutlass rear bumper bracket

I need a left hand side rear bumper bracket for a 68 cutlass/442.

TIA,

Dan

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Marion, IA                             68 442 Convertible

       (+)------------------------------------(+)
        |  http://www.442.com/williams68.html  |
       (+)------------------------------------(+)

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:44:30 -0400
From: "Master Costanzo" <costanzo@netcarrier.com>
Subject: RE: New Teaser Pics

Nice Buick!  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Oldsmagnet
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 10:20 PM
> To: G-Body List; Oldsmobile Mailing List
> Subject: New Teaser Pics
> 
> 
> Some new pics scanned in real quick.  Check out
> http://members.tripod.com/~Oldsmagnet/lazy.htm
> 
> Sorry for such a looooong load time, but I stuffed a lot of stuff 
> there.  Gotta
> hit the road here pretty quick, so I didn't get too fancy.  Got 
> my "new" 73 Riv
> in there, too, for a taste of what it looks like.
> 
> -- 
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:07:39 EDT
From: Shogun60@aol.com
Subject: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS

WHATS A BROTHER GOT TO DO TO GET SOME OLDS 442 EXH MANIFOLDS AROUND HERE? I 
HAVE A 455 C.I. WITH TURBO 400 TRANNY. BEST PRICE SO FAR IS $495. MORE THAN 
WHAT I WANT TO PAY BUT WOULD RATHER NOT GO TO HEADERS. ANY IDEAS ON IF 
NON-442 MANIFOLDS WOULD WORK?
THANKS.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:07:35 -0500
From: "patrick derkacz" <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Subject: Re:phenoma find

Not that there was any doubt but I can confirm Chris Witts posts on this
subject earlier this week.  The gentlemen does have a duelie toro and a 68
42 w/ an experimental olds motor, 1 of 10 he says, Chris forgot to mention
his 68 hurst olds and the chop top and shortened vista cruiser he is working
on.  He had a bunch of parts for a '68, no rally packs or steering wheels
thou.

BTW, picked up the aluminum heads today, can't wait

patrickd@wwnet.com

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:23:07 -0500
From: "James L. Brownfield" <olzracer@peaknet.net>
Subject: Headers....

Hi all,

I've got a 78 Cutlass that I drag race. It has a 455, Turbo 400, 3800
stall, and 9 inch with 4.10s. This car right now is equipped with small
block headers, because at the time that was all that was available. I
just got a set of  Hooker competition headers, made for the big block.

Right now the car runs 11.80s @ 110 mph, I think the mph should be
higher. When I ported the heads, I raised the ceiling on the exhaust
ports about 1/8 inch. With these small block headers I'm sure there
blocking at least 3/8 inch of the port.

Has anybody already gone through this change? I guess my question is,
what can I expect to gain.

I was thinking 11.50s, does this sound reasonable?

Thanks for the input.

Jim

68 Hurst/Olds
78 Cutlass

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:41:28 -0400
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: F-85 1963

Forwarding another car for sale, just in case someone might be
interested.  It looks pretty nice from the pics he sent.  ALL 14 OF
THEM!  I'll forward them privately if someone wants to see them, but
they'll take forever to download!

Paul

Mike Nigus wrote:
> 
> If you are interested my mother has a 1963 Olds F-85 wagon that she is
> the 2nd owner of. Her Aunt was the original owner, she bought the car new
> in Council Bluffs, Iowa from McIntyre Olds-Cadillac Inc. I have all papers
> and records for oil changes, lub, ect. It has 27,000 actual miles, Red 
> with white top, red interior, original seatcovers and carpet. Stored 
> inside. VIN#631M64238, Gross Wt. 2868, Motor ID#631M74238. It has power 
> steering, power brakes, clock, push button AM radio, power rear window, 
> factory floormats, seatbelts, V-8 2 bl carb,whitewall tires, new battery,
> new master cyl. No tears or wear on seats, no pits or dings in any of the 
> chrome except for small pits in chrome around fender wells, minimal amount 
> of rust, one very small pit in front windshield but no cracking, chrome 
> wind deflectors on back. It does not have power side windows, power seats,
> power door locks, or air cond. I would think the car would be in # 2 
> condition, located in Northeast Kansas, Hiawatha on US 36 Hwy. Asking 
> $5,000 but will consider serious offers. If you might be interested or
> know of anyone who is, please contact me at liquor@midusa.net or call
> 785-742-3387 Nigus Retail Liquor, 606 N1st, Hiawatha, Kansas 66434.
> e-mail photos to follow. I also have 70 color photos, close ups and
> long shots of car and interior that I can snail mail to you, but I would 
> like them returned if your not interested.
> Thanks, Mike Nigus

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:48:11 -0500
From: "Dan Schein" <schein@mailroom.com>
Subject: RE: Sale Places for HurstOlds

Im there now! Cool site, thanks.

- -Dan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Four42much@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 6:28 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Sale Places for HurstOlds
>
>
> Go to    http://members.aol.com/cutlascoup/index.html....or click
> on the blue
> area
> <A
> HREF="http://members.aol.com/cutlascoup/index.html">CUTLASCOUP's Home Page
> </A>       Hot Rod Harry
>

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:17:08 -0700
From: melgies@uniserve.com
Subject: 1971 442 2dr hdtop W/O moldings

im in desperate need of one left rear wheel opening molding but would
consider all 4 if they are perfect or NOS or whats the deal on repros?
Regards Mel G.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:23:57 -0500
From: "Lou Biggs" <lbiggs@intertek.net>
Subject: Memorial day

This is definitely not Olds related. 

Memorial day!, We should think of all the men and women who have gone
before us that provide us with the fact that we have a Memorial Day. Many
lives were sacrificed so we could have fun and get an extra day off. Not to
be a party pooper but less we forget those that are NOT driving their Olds'
this weekend. This is for the Canadians too, they paid their rent also.
Best wishes and God bless to all those who are not with us today.

Lou (Master) Biggs
lbiggs@intertek.net
oca#31353
PS I could be driving a Zis
PPS Now we can party!

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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:09:24 -0500
From: "Kerry Kroger" <kerryk@freewwweb.com>
Subject: Re: Does this company exist?

yes they were in florida somewhere the operators name was cary something,
the repro parts they did were very good and they were licensed but due to
the limited market at the time they went bye bye, .........KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Geisel <Rocket455@worldnet.att.net>
To: Olds <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 8:14 PM
Subject: Does this company exist?


> Has anyone heard of this company? A Little Different, Ltd.
>
> There are some H/O parts on a certain auction sight ;-) that I e-mailed
the
> seller about. She told me they were made by the above company and that
they
> were licensed back in the mid  to late 70's to repro H/O parts. I can't
> understand why a company would be licensed to make repros for 70's ear
H/O's
> that soon after production. Does anyone know if this company existed or am
I
> getting my chain yanked?
>
> TIA,
> Randy
>
>

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:28:52 -0600
From: "Jeff Newman" <newsance@netzero.net>
Subject: Round 19, carb problems

Man oh man. Am now up to 18 repair shop visits, and almost two months
without a properly running car.

Is an '84 park avenue with an olds 307, which is why I am questioning his
list.

Problems: Will hesitate and backfire BIG time  at part throttle whenever it
is cold. It is so bad it has trouble moving on hills, as the engine will cut
out and eventually stall under any load from a stop. It does this until it
has been driven half an hour or so. Full throttle will always cause it to
cut out off the line, but works fine when it is punched with the car running
over 15 mph. When it is warm, it drives fine, with the exception of flooring
it off the line.

So far, the feedback quadrajet  has been taking apart and put back together
three times, two new tps sensors, a new mixture control solenoid, new
accelerator pump, needle and seat, etc. Solenoid dwell on time averages to
50%, with a dwell reading of 30-31. This is spec for this carb.

Ignition system has been completely revuilt, new plugs, wires, rotors, coil,
and even an ignition module. The ECM appears to be functioning normally.

Any ideas on what is causing this? I haven't checked to see if the ontime of
the m/c changes with a lean engine condition (vacuum leak) or rich (rag
stuffed into carb).

The shop guys are going nuts, I am going nuts....

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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:21:25 -0500
From: "Kerry Kroger" <kerryk@freewwweb.com>
Subject: Re: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS

check the parts for sale on 442.com and look on E-Bay and maybe check with
Jim Chermac and maybe turn off the caps lock...KK
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Shogun60@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 10:07 PM
Subject: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS


> WHATS A BROTHER GOT TO DO TO GET SOME OLDS 442 EXH MANIFOLDS AROUND HERE?
I
> HAVE A 455 C.I. WITH TURBO 400 TRANNY. BEST PRICE SO FAR IS $495. MORE
THAN
> WHAT I WANT TO PAY BUT WOULD RATHER NOT GO TO HEADERS. ANY IDEAS ON IF
> NON-442 MANIFOLDS WOULD WORK?
> THANKS.
>

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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 05:49:04 -0400
From: Gene Gatti <jerseydevil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS

Hi KK,
  
*** Tongue in Cheek Mode ON ***

Oh yeah, a guy that never uses punctuation is correcting someone else for
using all caps. Now I've seen it all :-)

*** Tongue in Cheek Mode OFF ***

Just kidding,
Gene



At 12:21 AM 5/29/99 -0500, you wrote:
>check the parts for sale on 442.com and look on E-Bay and maybe check with
>Jim Chermac and maybe turn off the caps lock...KK
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Shogun60@aol.com>
>To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 10:07 PM
>Subject: EXHAUST MANIFOLDS
>
>
>> WHATS A BROTHER GOT TO DO TO GET SOME OLDS 442 EXH MANIFOLDS AROUND HERE?
>I
>> HAVE A 455 C.I. WITH TURBO 400 TRANNY. BEST PRICE SO FAR IS $495. MORE
>THAN
>> WHAT I WANT TO PAY BUT WOULD RATHER NOT GO TO HEADERS. ANY IDEAS ON IF
>> NON-442 MANIFOLDS WOULD WORK?
>> THANKS.
>>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:01:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 1971 442 2dr hdtop W/O moldings

Not on the list; respond to melgies@uniserve.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	melgies@uniserve.com
Subject: 1971 442 2dr hdtop W/O moldings

im in desperate need of one left rear wheel opening molding but would
consider all 4 if they are perfect or NOS or whats the deal on repros?
Regards Mel G.

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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 07:29:07 EDT
From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Round 19, carb problems

In a message dated 99-05-29 01:21:34 EDT, you write:

<< Problems: Will hesitate and backfire BIG time  at part throttle whenever it
 is cold.  >>

So when did the problems start?

SOM

&KA

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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:17:56 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: 403 into 86 442

>I'll be putting my 77-79 403 into my 86 442 in about 2 weeks. I was told
that
>a 307 HO chip would allow me to use the 307 computer,

If your 442 was a non-roller 307, the chip should be OK.

> but I should re-jet the
>307 carb for the 403. I know it will be a bolt in swap, just curious about
>the details.

Pasted below is a saved post from Kevin Wong, who did the swap with a 455.
Good luck with yours.

drc
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

From a post dated 8/8/98

Most of my changes came from "Rochester Carburetors" by Doug Roe.
The 455 was initially started using all the stock 307 settings.  Since
this engine has an Edelbrock camshaft, low speed vacuum characteristics
changed dramatically from stock, so it was necessary to adjust the
idle screw and ILC plunger to open the throttle much more (in the order of
3 whole turns) so the engine could idle.  Although it would run
satisfactorily with these settings, the off-idle vacuum ports were out of
alignment with respect to the throttle blades, so devices like EGR or
the fuel vapour recovery system could potentially function (it didn't
however) at idle due to the vacuum signal.  In any case, I followed
the advice in the aforementioned book and drilled a 3/32" hole in each
primary throttle blades.  Now that the idle position of the throttle
blades was closer to stock, the off-idle discharge slots were not able to
feed as much mixture, and the small "smogger" idle discharge ports weren't
able to deliver the required amount of fuel at idle vacuum levels (in
drive) despite backing the needles all the way out.  I drilled out this
holes to 0.094", which is close to what was used with pre-emissions
Quadrajets.  My current idle mixture setting is 4.5 turns, which produces
about a 60% M/C duty cycle at idle (700 RPM) in drive.  Each time the
position of the throttle blades was changes, I had to readjust the TPS and
reset the ECM.

Initially, I installed (fairly rich) "DG" secondary metering rods in place
of the pathetic "DD" rods (they don't make them much leaner!).
Using O2 sensor values only as a guide during WOT (they're not too
responsive this far from a stoichiometric mixture) and subsequently
reading the spark plugs, it appeared that it was leaning out slightly,
above 4000 RPM.  I purchased an AC-Delco rebuild kit and a new float
assembly (the 10.5 year old carburetor was previously untouched).  I set
the float to 8/32" instead of 11/32".  As per Doug Roe's book, I drove the
secondary air bleeds inwards so they protruded 1" below the air horn.  The
inlet valve was already of the 0.135" variety, as was the replacement that
came with the rebuild kit.  Then, I installed a set of brand new "AU"
secondary rods.  The mixture now is a touch on the rich side under 3500
RPM, and seems OK at 5000 RPM.  Oh, and I bent the secondary air valve
stop to allow "full" travel.  Down the road, I'll probably modify the
linkage so the secondaries open a bit sooner, since some leanness (quite
minor) is felt at the point just before they are set to open.  I don't
know if larger primary jets are available for electronic Q-jets (they have
a "76" on them).  Perhaps I need to play with the M/C solenoid
adjustments, but then the part throttle duty cycle is already close to
70%.

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