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oldsmobile-digest          Sunday, 6 October 1996       Volume 01 : Number 322


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From: jzeilman@stlouis.cp.lucent.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 11:51:00 -0300
Subject: Re: seatbelts and parts wanted

For all interested:

In the back of Cars and Parts magazine, there is an add for Seat Belt 
assemblies:
Seat Belt assemblies
Call 410-381-6700 or FAX 410-381-6703 for information.
Andover Automotive
PO Box 3143CP, Laurel, MD 20709

Hope this helps,

Jeff Zeilmann
SMTP:jzeilman@stlouis.cp.lucent.com
'68 Cutlass Supreme, '69 Cutlass S Convertible

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From: jzeilman@stlouis.cp.lucent.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:06:00 -0300
Subject: Anyone in my Area?

Just curious to see if there is anyone on the list that is in the St. Louis 
area?  So far, the closest I have seen is our IL neighbors from the Windy 
City.  I do have an Uncle who lives in Bartlett (on the outskirts of 
Chicago) and I do get up to see him usually once a year.  Next time I do, 
probably not anytime this year, I will have to meet up with you Chicagoians. 

<snip>
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of 
cigarettes, it's dark and were wearing sunglasses.....Hit it!"

Jeff Zeilmann
SMTP:jzeilman@stlouis.cp.lucent.com
'68 Cutlass Supreme, '69 Cutlass S Convertible

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From: "David Brown" <dbrown@mcis.bsd.uchicago.edu>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:27:55 -0300
Subject: Re: Chicago Area Olds Meet 

It has been busy here.  I plan to be there Sunday.

David Brown          OCA #27978         (312) 702-9157
    Check out: www.442.com      www.oldsmobile.com
               FAQ version 2.0 due soon!

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     Okay, I plied through the messages confirming attendance.  Here is the 
     list of comfirmees as I know it.  Ed Ekstrom sent a message that he 
     hasn't gotten e-mail from the Olds list for a while.  Hopefully he can 
     attend also.  I am copying him on this directly, as well as Jeff 
     Easton. 
     
     Andy Green and family
     Dave Wilk and family
     Jeff Easton
     Rick Kromeich
     Dave Brown (I think)
     Ed Eksrom (???)
     Brett Chaveriat 
     
     
     To reiterate the plan, we will meet at the Schaumburg Fuddrukkers on 
Sunday

     Oct. 6 (this Sunday) at 3 PM.  We will meet in the parking lot.  I will 
     include directions below, for those who missed it.

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From: jzeilman@stlouis.cp.lucent.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:16:00 -0300
Subject: Johnny Lightning Toros

Hey all,

I went to several of the Toys 'R Us stores here in St. Louis and was lucky 
enough to grab up all the remaining Johnny Lightning Toros they had before 
they got rid of them.  For anyone interested, I have four extra black 
(series 3) Toros, and two copper (series 4) Toros that I would be willing to 
sell/trade.  I would very very much prefer to trade for any color '69 
442/H/O, but will sell them if no one has that to trade for.    I am going 
to bring them to the monthly meeting of our local Archway Olds club chapter 
on Tuesday, but thought I'd give you folks first crack at 'em.  Please mail 
me with any responses.

Jeff Zeilmann
SMTP:jzeilman@stlouis.cp.lucent.com
'68 Cutlass Supreme, '69 Cutlass S Convertible

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From: Mike Hall <mikehal1@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 19:08:49 -0300
Subject: Re: movie

Charley Buehner writes:
>Actually, from what I've heard, the only damage to that car (it was a real
>442, by the way) was the headlights and windshield.  The rest was special
>effects and/or stunt double *(hopefully a chevelle painted to look like
>it?)*  Anyway, that's the word I've heard, that they didn't really wreck the
>car.

I was at a local R&D shop over North of Mt. Clemens and saw lots n lots 
of red 442 pictures in their lobby. This company did three cars for 
Demolition Man. I never asked if they were authentic 1970 442's... two of 
the cars were for the stunts, the other was there to look pretty...


Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: mikehal1@ix.netcom.com
Teleflex E-Mail: TFX!TFXTROYMI!TFXTROYPO!mikeh@tfx.attmail.com
The Oldsmobile Stable:    
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

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From: DrkSole@aol.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:45:40 -0300
Subject: Re: Anyone in my Area? 

In a message dated 96-10-05 13:05:10 EDT, you write:

>
>Just curious to see if there is anyone on the list that is in the St. Louis 
>area?  So far, the closest I have seen is our IL neighbors from the Windy 
>City.  I do have an Uncle who lives in Bartlett (on the outskirts of 
>Chicago) and I do get up to see him usually once a year.  Next time I do, 
>probably not anytime this year, I will have to meet up with you Chicagoians.

>
><snip>
>"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of 
>cigarettes, it's dark and were wearing sunglasses.....Hit it!"
 74 Dodge Monaco sedan. 440
>
>Jeff Zeilmann
>SMTP:jzeilman@stlouis.cp.lucent.com
>'68 Cutlass Supreme, '69 Cutlass S Convertible
>
>
>

Is Des Moines closer than Chicago?
 DrkSole
 73 Cutlass Supreme
 67 Delta 88 (coming soon) 

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From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:44:23 -0300
Subject: Car Show

Fat Fender Fans:

National Street Rod Association 
9th Annual Southeast Street Rod Nationals
9-6 October 18th & 19th, 9-2 October 20th
1,350 pre-1949 street rods expected

Florida State Fairgrounds
Highways 301 & 92, Tampa
Admission $10 & 3$, Parking $3, 
Info: Jerry Kennedy 303-776-7841

Anybody going?  Bob?

The 66 Toro and Mike


- -- 
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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From: OLDSPWR@aol.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:16:57 -0300
Subject: More on G-body crossmembers... 

I have to apologize for taking so long on replying about the dual hump
crossmembers in G-body Cutlass's.  Last week I took my 79 to the track and
got gigged on a few small things at the tech check.  Since my battery is in
the trunk and I only had it in a plastic marine case, I had to make a sealed
metal box to comply with NHRA 1996 regs...  So to make a long story short, I
wanted to race again this Sunday so I had to make a metal box... (lots of
work......)

But on to the subject, it was me who wrote the following quote:
> G-bodies used an offset cross member that only has a single hump.  A dual
 > hump one from a late 60's or early 70's GM (Cutlass, etc.) will work great
if
 > you remove 1" from both sides.  It will have to set on the bottom of the
 > frame rails instead of the top but it will work just right for the where
the
 > headers dump. 

In a effort to make my computer a little faster (like my car...) I had a
small mishap and lost all my old mail that I had saved, including the quote
from above.

So to address it again, a crossmember from a late 60's early 70's Cutlass,
Skylark, Monte Carlo, Chevelle, Lemans, etc... will work.  I bought a 73 442
as a parts car and stumbled upon mine.  But you do have to make some
modifications to make it work.  In my opinion, it is definetly worth the
effort.  The first thing you have to do is remove approx. 1" from both sides
of the crossmember.  This is required because the earlier car are slighty
wider than the 78-87 G-bodies.  As mentioned earlier, the orignal crossmember
is offset and the dual one is straight.  Therefore, the new one will not fit
in the original ones location.  Also, it will have to sit on the bottom of
the frame rail instead of the top.  There is not enough room between the top
frame rail and the floor for the dual one to sit.  You would really have to
MODIFY the floor in order for the crossmember  to fit on the top frame rail.
 I would not be hesitant about this!!!   Yes, you might think that there is
not enough strength in this spot.  But it could easily be reinforced with
angle iron or box steel....  I just have mine bolted to the bottom rail with
nothing extra added and nothing has twisted or bent.  I DO plan on
strengthing it in the near future though.  The next thing you have to do is
obtain your proper pinion angle.  In other words, make sure that the tranny
is sitting at the same level it was originally.  You can use shims, etc, to
obtain the proper level.  In anybody needs more info on this, drop me a line.
 

I hope this helped....  PLEASE drop me a line with any comments/questions and
I will be glad to help.  Remeber, this really HELPS when putting trual duals
on.  It is really worth the effort.

Tom Millard OLDSPWR@aol.com
79 Cutlass -> Street/Strip/Show 
86 442 -> Summer Driver 
79 Cutlass -> Winter Bomb

P.S. As for price, I think $50 or so from a boneyard is worth it...
   

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From: Jim Fleeson <o455@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:13:36 -0300
Subject: NEED PART HELP

Good Day Folks:
Mine was not that good, It seems that my nephew was bored today,
and decided to play baseball...
BUT..
He was using my 69 Cutlass S passenger side marker light for a ball :(..

I still can't beleive or see how but, he didn't touch the fender at all.

But the marker light is WASTED..:(

If anyone has one to get rid of I sure would appreciate it..

Let Me Know PLEASE.

Include the amount you want and how you want to send it..

Thanks In Advance..

Jim Fleeson <o455@ix.netcom.com>
1982 Cutlass Supreme (455)
1969 Cutlass S (NOW WOUNDED) :(:(:(:(:(.......

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From: Chris Urban <urbanch@magi.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 21:42:09 -0300
Subject: November Car craft

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Craft and what I surprise Joe Mondello seems to consistantly dis agree =
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From: mefco@sprynet.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:04:11 -0300
Subject: Re: Wide tires?

Nick,
I don't know about wider tires, we learned through experimenting on my buddy's 
car that 245-60's is about all you have room for on a 14 x 7 wheel.

Art Fuller

P.S. Two sets of my tires, for show, are T.A. Radials, and the car that I 
drive 
has cooper tires.

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From: Bill Gochenour <billg@sjuvm.stjohns.edu>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 07:18:43 -0300
Subject: Need Source for Eagle GT tires

I need to find a NOS sorce for Goodyear Eagle GT tires in the P215-65-R15 
size for my 83 H/O. Any ideas ? They've gotta be GT's, not GT II, or 
GT+4.

- -- 
                                                     
Bill !                                         _           _       ___  
                                             /  |        /  |    /  _  \ 
1983 Hurst/Olds 15th Aniversary Edition    /    |      /    |   |_|   | |
1986 442 The Perfect "10"                /  / | |_   /  / | |_      /  / 
1993 Chevrolet Lumina Z-34              |_____   _| |_____   _|   /  /__ 
                                              |_|         |_|   |_______|
                                        
          
      Visit http://yogi-bear.stjohns.edu/~toychest     (updated 9/23)

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From: Jim Fleeson <o455@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:35:57 -0300
Subject: NEED PART HELP

Good Day:

That Would Probably Help... Would It...   :)

Front

Jim Fleeson<o455@ix.netcom.com>
1982 Cutlass Supreme (455)
1969 Cutlass S (STILL WOUNDED) :(

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From: Roland Klinger <Roland.Klinger@bonn.netsurf.de>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:30:49 -0300
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B456_Rocket?= 

Hello all,

after restauration of the 324 rocket engine of my =B456 Holiday Coupe,=
 people
at the engine shop had to confess that they somehow lost the oil control
stick of the engine.

I wonder if someone of the Olds community sees a chance to get one. Rocket
engines are rather scarce on German junkyards <g>.

Thank you, Roland

=20

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