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Subject:	oldsmobile-digest V1 #351


oldsmobile-digest         Sunday, 3 November 1996      Volume 01 :
Number 351


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From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:18:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Resto  Tips  .....

> > Joe Ferrero wrote:
> > > Put that guitar to good use!!!
> > > 2 people and a guitar string make a great windshield removal tool!
> >
> > Mike Frederick wrote:
> > Send the guitars to me; I send all the strings you need back to you.


> Jeramy Goble wrote:
> I bet a piano wire would work well.

Send the pianos to Sparky

The 66 Toro and Mike


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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From: PHartlieb@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:27:26 -0400
Subject: Grace...

Wanted to let you all know that I caught the beginning of Grace Under
Fire the other night, by accident, and the car in the beginning credits
is a '65 Bonneville.

Paul

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From: "Gregory G. Kalkhoff" <gkalkhof@execpc.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:34:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Grace...

PHartlieb@aol.com wrote:
>
> Wanted to let you all know that I caught the beginning of Grace Under
Fire > the other night, by accident, and the car in the beginning
credits is a '65 > Bonneville.

Paul,

Yeah, I saw it!  At least it's a GM product!  (sigh)

Sparky
- --
Greg Kalkhoff                             See the Sparkmobile
AKA  "Sparky"                       http://www.442.com/kalkhoff.html
Milwaukee, WI

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From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (MR DREW A DURIGAN)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:44:02 -0400
Subject: ECM Problems

>Be careful not to overlook the obvious.  So many of those are
nothing worse
>than bad connections.  I'd first pull the plug and inspect/tighten
all those
>little terminals in there.  If that does nothing, then I'd look at
the ECM.

Thanks, Charley.  It IS a bad connection, but I'm not sure whether
it's on the inside or the outside of the "box."  When the engine
light is on, I can reach over and press in on the box, and the light
will go off & idle speed will return to normal.  But as soon as I let
go, the light returns & the engine starts racing again. This is DAMN
frustrating!

(I've never worked with one of these, so I have no idea what
connections are made to it.  Can't see anything from underneath, just
the box itself.  Now I know why I never bought a computerized car
before!)

- -Drew-

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From: "Tom Lentz" <tlentz@teknon.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:56:57 -0400
Subject: Re[2]: Intake Gaskets

     I ended up buying the Fel-Pro gasket, it was cheapest ($21.99) and
     I've used it before on my 260 (although the motor puked 6 months
     later).  One note, I saw that Edelbrock says not to use the Fel-Pro

     Permatorque Blue intake gasket with their intake because it won't
seal
     with the alum. intake.  Since my H/O has an alum. intake too, I
     thought it best to get the regular gasket.

     Since I gotta have it apart, I'm going the whole nine yards--flush
     cooling system, using the new DexCool coolant, installing a
     freeze-plug block heater, and I might even get an Edelbrock intake.

     In one of the car magazines, sometime in the Spring of '95, they
did a
     Mondello 455 buildup.  During which, Mondello says to dimple the
front
     and rear rails where the rubber strip goes with a center punch for
     better sealing.  Has anyone tried this?  Does it apply to small
blocks
     too?

     Tom.


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_________________________________ Subject: Re: Intake Gaskets Author:
oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca at INTERNET Date:    11/1/96 11:03 PM

BTW, I am just about to replace the gasket (again) on my new motor (the
temp one) and I will use the Fel-Pro one again.  Detroit's was fine,
but Fel-Pro included a tube of sealant of some sort, that you use on
the water jacket areas, and around the intake ports, to help selaing,
along with the ridged areas around the intake ports, which squish to
proper size when torqued.

Chris.


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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:24:06 -0400
Subject: Q-Jet Mixture Screw Setting

Just curious... anyone recall offhand roughly how many turns out their
Q-jet mixture screws are set? In playing with mine, I start with the
recommended 2 1/2 turns and it will idle somewhat roughly at that
setting. Playing with it I can get a pretty smooth idle at about 4 to 4
1/2 turns, which seems like a lot to me, but then again, what do I know?
 Maybe that's normal...


Greg Beaulieu        ab348@ccn.cs.dal.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia,
Canada

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:34:34 -0400
Subject: Bargains!

I was at our local Canadian Tire store (like Western Auto) yesterday and
 they were having a clearance sale in a huge tent out in the parking
lot. Aside from a mountain of soap dishes, general hardware, etc.,
there were a few things of interest (all prices Canadian $, approx.
$0.75 US):

Hurst/Mr. Gasket shift kits for a TH350/375... they had a whole stack of
 these, regular price $39.95, sale price $20.00, package sez fits
'68-'80 (Made me wish I had a TH350)

A whole bunch of "tune-up kits" consisting of rotor, points and
condensor, $7 (I bought a couple of these, hope they are the right ones
- they appear to be)

>From the MotorMite "Help" line, probably about 100 steering column
coupler sets, the round rubber/fiber disc that mounts between the end of
 the steering column and the steering box, with bolts, etc., $5 (I
bought one of these too, "just in case...")

Lots of other interesting stuff there, including hundreds of cans of
spray automotive lacquer at half-price, unfortunately all of it in GM
Sedona Tan... why they would order so much of one color is a mystery...
but it was fun to poke around among all this stuff regardless.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@ccn.cs.dal.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia,
Canada

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From: John and Elizabeth Gene <gene@cybernex.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:25:33 -0400
Subject: freeze out plug size

I own a Olds 1970 Rocket 350 engine. I need to install a engine block
heater. My local auto parts dealer told me to find out what size freeze
out plug is in this engine because his catalog only lists engine block
heaters by size not by automobile manufacturer or engine. I will be
removing the exhaust manifolds very soon and this will add in the ease
of installation of the engine block heater. I was planning to install it
on the drivers side of the engine, in the front, behind the power
steering pump. I need to know what the size of this freeze out plug. Is
this a good location? Is there is a better location, if so where is it
and what is the size of that freeze out plug?
+==========================+ | John and Elizabeth Gene  | |
mailto:gene@cybernex.net | +==========================+

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From: Aaron Neumann <neumann.12@osu.edu>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:42:49 -0400
Subject: Fan clutch/water pump prob.

Last night, on a dark country road in the middle of nowhere around
midnight, my fan clutch decided that it was through and locked up.
Surprising, since it only has maybe 15-20 thousand miles on it.  I
nursed it to my apartment (15 miles) and inspected the damage.  I
discovered a coolant leak from what appears to be where the water pump
shaft attaches to the main pulley...wierd since I would think that if
the bearings were bad in the pump, that the coolant would come out that
little hole designed for that specific purpose. The leak is relatively
small (I'd say it drained a little less than a half gallon in that 15
miles).  I plan on running it for an extended period of time after I
right this, and if it leaks more, than I'll have answered my question
below.

The water pump has maybe 15,000 miles on it, not much, but there is the
slightest wobble in the fan assembly that I think could wear out the
bearings prematurely.  I'm not sure where the wobble comes from...if the
pulley is slightly off kilter or if the water pump shaft was a lemon.

Here's my question.  Is there anyway that this coolant leak could be
just temporary as a result of the fan clutch going?  What I want to hear
is that I can just replace the fan clutch and the leak will cease and
everything will be honky dory.  I don't want to replace the dang water
pump again.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Aaron

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|  |  | Aaron Neumann St. Marys, OH  *
|  |  | neumann.12@osu.edu           *
| /|\ | 72 Delta 88 Royale Conv.     *
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From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:55:42 -0400
Subject: MUCHO For Sale

>From the Sunday Tampa Tribune:

     "OLDS 1970 Cutlass Conv-New paint, top & carpet, a/c, PDB, pw,
      ps, am/fm, 8-track, great condition.  $7000/obo.  813-832-4839"

     "OLDS 1971 442 455 engine, ps/pw/ac, new tires, runs great.
      $4800obo  813-651-1442"

     "OLDS 1972 Hurst Indy Pace Car, Big blk. A/C,ps,pb,auto.
      $12,500 obo.  813-251-2885 days or 791-3015 eves."

     "OLDSMOBILE Cutlass parts 1968-72.  Body & int. converts, htps.
      $5-$250  352-688-8199"

Get yer checkbooks out!

The 66 Toro and Mike


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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From: Dave Paulison <dpauliso@gate.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:12:03 -0400
Subject: Re: MUCHO For Sale

>     "OLDSMOBILE Cutlass parts 1968-72.  Body & int. converts, htps.
>      $5-$250  352-688-8199"

Where is area code 352?  I may give this guy a call...
- --
Dave Paulison                  1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
Melbourne, Florida             1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
dpauliso@gate.net

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From: idaholc@primenet.com (William Goodnight)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:31:53 -0400
Subject: Garage Advice Wanted

I have nearly completed a house for my Olds (49 Club Coupe).  I need
advice on a couple of features.

1)      I have heard various arguments for flourescent and for
incandescent lighting.  Also recently, an aquaintance suggested halogen
for intensity and supplemental heat.  Any suggestions?

2)      I will want to vent the garage in the future for painting.  Any
suggested sources for wall mount power vents that are sealed for
combustion prevention?

idaholc@primenet.com

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From: George Torch <curiousg@crown.icongrp.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:41:57 -0400
Subject: 1962 Hydramatic 3 speed

I own a 62 Dynamic 88 that I've been using as a daily driver for about
3 years.  Two days ago the transmission took a dump.  Its the original 3
 speed hydramatic coupled to the 394.  I'd like to get this car back on
 the road as soon as possible.  Are there any other more common
transmissions that will fit up to the 394 without major modifications?
If not, does anyone know were I can get the entire control valve body or
 a working trans?  I live in NW Indiana and would be willing to travell
 several hundred miles.
                            George Torch
                       curiousg@crown.icongrp.com

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From: Dennis Sytsma <dsytsma@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:32:17 -0400
Subject: Re: the city vs your car

Hello Drew;
Same in South Florida (Homestead). Need current tag. Cannot get tag
without insurance. Hence no inactive cars on property if your nieghbors
report you to big brother.  If car is in garage and/or you have good
rlations with your neighbors, no problem.  Unfair, not sure.  My
neighbor is a AMC fan, he has half a dozen AMC cars in his yard, along
with construction equipment. none of it in use.  But he is the worlds
best person to have as a neighbor when you need help.  I think every
case has factors to consider.


Dennis Sytsma
dsytsma@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us


On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, MR DREW A DURIGAN wrote:

> >>Lots of cities have laws to tow cars away if
>  - car hasn't moved in X days,
>  - car is not drivable
>    (this can mean anything from immobile, aka up on blocks,
>     to not leagal to drive, as in your seatbelt is too tattered
>     or whatever other silly reason someone wants to give)
>  - car is not currently licensed/inspected, <<
>
> This is a perfect example of the gradual erosion of private property
> rights in this country.  Used to be that, unless you were endangering
> or blatantly disturbing your neighbors, what you did on your own
> property was your own damn business.  Now, the government has license
> to come onto YOUR property and remove YOUR property (car) if it
> doesn't meet the standards that THEY have imposed.  Pretty pathetic
> when you stop and think about it, isn't it?
>
> (Stepping off the political soapbox...)
>
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>
>
>

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