To:	Jeffrey A Easton/ADD_LAKE_HUB/ADD_HUB/ADD/US
cc:	 
From:	gbbea000 @ mail.cycor.ca@INTERNET1 @ ABTLAB
Date:	10/28/96 05:37:43 PM
Subject:	oldsmobile-digest V1 #345


oldsmobile-digest         Monday, 28 October 1996      Volume 01 :
Number 345


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From: buehner@cis.nmclites.edu (buehner)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 06:02:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Newbie

And
>what can I do about my gearing/rear end?  When I hit 60mph on the
>highway the engine is already doing 3600rpm--not a good thing for a 25
>year old engine.  Any suggestions?

  How 'bout a 2 month old engine :)  Then you can share with us the rest
of your stories about what five point slow you cooked today!!!
Seriously, as for the rearend, if your looking to keep it original, I'd
leave it alone.  You might try taller tires if it's really a problem, as
this would bring your 60mph/rpm down a bit.  If you're looking for
changes, a different rear end would help out on the highway, but you'll
likely lose some of the street performance you're used to.   I'm not
sure what numbers were dealing with, but I'll cite two rearend ratios as
an example.  My '81 came with a 260 V8 and 2.29 rearend.  It could go
150 without breaking a sweat (~Not with the 260 :)~)  The drawback was
that it took forever to get to 30 miles per hour.  After that, it took
off like a rocket is supposed to (which is when it earned its
nickname...)  On the other side of the continuum, take for instance a
4.11 (which I ~don't~ run) This rearend will allow you to make fantastic
zero to 60's, but can max out your RPM at a very low speed.  (i.e. your
car won't go over 100 or so)  I'm guessing that you're falling somewhere
around 3.55 range or so, just a guess.  Other list members will likely
have an exact spec for you, and will quickly correct my speed errors
(since I'm only generalizing) and they may have more suggestions.
   The bottom line (from me, anyway) is that it would really depend on
what you want your car for.  If you want to have a strong performing
street car that can smoke everything, I'd leave it the same.  If you
want something to drag race everywhere, you might go lower (higher
numerically)  If you want to do more highway driving, you may go to a
taller gear (lower numerically) how much lower would depend on what kind
of economy you want to achieve, and how much performance you are willing
to sacrifice.
     There, a lot of babbling, for absolutely no information.  I feel
like I'm a politician!   I don't know.  Maybe it'll help out a little.
Good luck, and keep us posted.  As always, if there are questions, feel
free to ask, you're likely to get ~some~ kind of response!  :)


      Charley Buehner       | "buehner@cis.nmclites.edu"
      Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
      Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
      "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass 425
      "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
             (Real Cars Don't Wear Bowties!)

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From: "Roger M. Borlase" <BORLASE@gordonc.edu>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:08:58 -0400
Subject: RE: Newbie

Jeff,

>delta 88 swap.  Couple of questions--does anyone else have a '72? And
>what can I do about my gearing/rear end?  When I hit 60mph on the

I have a '72 Cutlass Cruiser.  I can't help you with your rear end
problem (I have a lame open 2.73).

Roger Borlase

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From: "Robert J. Lavey" <rjlavey@rmci.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:18:41 -0400
Subject: Crankshaft/Pilot bearing

I've just finished disassembling a '69 455 that will replace the broken
400 in my '68 442.  The crank is one of the N pieces but doesn't seem to
be ready for installation of a pilot bearing.  Short of removing the 400
from the 442 and checking its crank, how can I determine if the crank
needs cut for a pilot bearing?  What is the diameter/depth of the hole
in the rear end of the crank?


Thanks,
Bob

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 Robert J. Lavey                         email: rjlavey@rmci.net
 13243 W. Dahlia Dr.                     Home:  (208) 939-5418
 Boise, ID  83713-1302                   Fax:   (208) 939-5452
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 Robert J. Lavey                         email: rjlavey@rmci.net
 13243 W. Dahlia Dr.                     Home:  (208) 939-5418
 Boise, ID  83713-1302                   Fax:   (208) 939-5452
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From: DESIMONEP@aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:40:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Mondello address?

In a message dated 96-10-25 21:46:19 EDT, you write:

> Well, It just so happens that Katanasan Has the answer:
>
>  Mondello Performance Products, Inc.
>  8166 Orion Blvd
>  Van Nuys, Ca. 91406
>  818-994-6910
>
>  The booklet that I have is for a GM 350 Diesel Covesion Kit and is
fairly >  old. Hope the address is still current.

Hello,

I just talked to them yesterday, they're coming out with a new catalog
in 2-3 weeks, $9.00. Also they have some type of technical reference for
$24.00.

(805) 237 8808
(805) 237 8814 Fax
(800) 252 2527 toll free

Mondello Performance
1103 Paso Robles St.
Paso Robles, CA 93446

Phil De Simone
desimonep@aol.com

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From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 17:50:39 -0400
Subject: Hot Wheel Fans

>From http://www.nascar.com/

Mattel, Inc., the world's largest toy company, announced that its Hot
Wheels brand of toy vehicles will sponsor Kyle Petty to race in the
NASCAR Winston Cup Series in 1997.  Petty will return to Petty
Enterprises as a driver/car owner carrying the Hot Wheels sponsorship.

In addition to the Petty sponsorship, Hot Wheels will introduce a line
of die-cast cars, trucks and playsets, marketed under the Team Hot
Wheels Pro Racing brand name. Each vehicle will feature "Team Hot
Wheels" drivers and sponsors including 16 of the most respected names
in racing such as Terry Labonte, Mark Martin, Ted Musgrave, Ernie
Irvan, Jeff Burton, Bill Elliott, Sterling Marlin, Geoff Bodine, Bobby
Hamilton, Jeremy Mayfield and David Green. The Pro Racing line includes
innovative vehicles and track systems for kids as well as authentic die
cast replicas for collectors.

And...  we're off!  ...to Toys-R-Us!

The 66 Toro and Mike


- --
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     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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From: aq302@detroit.freenet.org (Art E. Heckman)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:38:50 -0400
Subject: Replacing 350 trans. with a 200-4r trans

           Lately I've read where some of you guys have put 200-4r
trans. into your Oldsmobiles. What converter did you use? Will a stock
lock-up converter work? If so, how can I engage the lock-up feature of
the 200-4r trans. I have a 455 in my 66 442 and would like to get
better gas mileage from it. It is mostly used for street use.
                      Thanks in advance,
                           Art Heckman

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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 16:36:13 -0400
Subject: Toro and Olds Digests

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From: "bill" <bill281@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:48:35 -0400
Subject: Re: id for motor

Thanks but no numbers were there.


- ----------
> From: JOSEPH_W. BARKER <BARKERJO@mailserv1.ferris.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: id for motor
> Date: Saturday, October 26, 1996 1:00 AM
>
> BILL,
>
> Check the side of the block by looking up from under the car.  The
> c.i.d. or liters should be cast into the block.  They should be in
> the middle section of the block under the exhaust manifolds.
>
> Olds fan forever,
>
> Joe Barker
> barkerjo@mailserv1.ferris.edu
>
> 84 Cutlass Calais Supreme RWD
>

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From: Ken Michetti <program@planet.eon.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 16:01:11 -0400
Subject: oldsmobile 1946

Looking for drivers door window cranking regulator, 46 olds 4 door.
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From: OLDSPWR@aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:33:22 -0400
Subject: 78 & up Cutlass Gauges FOR SALE

I have 2 sets of "Rallye Pak" factory gauges for 78 and up Cutlass's for
sale.  They come with a tach, 85 mph speedo, water temp, oil pressure,
volt meter, & gas gauge.  I also will include instructions on how to
install them if you are replacing the common sweep speedometer.
Installation is very straight forward and the only thing else you have
to do is get the correct sending units (The instructions include the GM
part #'s).  I might be able to get the original sending units.  I can
also get a factory tach delete plate if anybody wants to run an
aftermarket tach.

One set is from 78-79 without the optical sensor and the other set has
the optical sensor.  Price: $50.00 + SH

Tom Millard OLDSPWR@aol.com
79 Cutlass -> Street/Strip/Show
86 442 -> Summer Driver
79 Cutlass -> Winter Bomb

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From: R4C442@aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:16:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Flames are high tonight!!! was: BB Olds vs BB Chevy

Hey Charlie!
    I hate to say this,but Chevy had a V-8 in 1914 & 1915. There's one
on display at the Henry F*** Museum in Dearborn. God I hated to say
that!


R4C442  65-442meister

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From: "Robert J. Barry" <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:56:51 -0400
Subject: Re: id for motor

At 01:48 PM 10/27/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks but no numbers were there.
[snip]
>> BILL,
>>
>> Check the side of the block by looking up from under the car.  The
>> c.i.d. or liters should be cast into the block.  They should be in
>> the middle section of the block under the exhaust manifolds.

Aside from being difficult to see, these are not found on earlier
engines. One other thing you can provide us with is the number or letter
cast on the lower-left corner of the head, to the left of the #1
sparkplug (a number for small-block heads, or a letter for big-block
heads).

- -----------
- - Bob Barry
- - 1969 Std. Toronado & 1970 Cutlass Supreme SX (the 455 big-block
boys) - - 1978 Electra Limited Coupe (409 Olds SMALL-block powered!)

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From: "bill" <bill281@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:49:16 -0400
Subject: id for motor

Thanks but there were no numbers


bill.
1982 CUTLASS

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From: CRuper1@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:58:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Is the BB Olds lighter than BB Chevy

In a message dated 96-10-24 23:27:48 EDT, you write:

<< Maybe you would like my contacts at the Defiance, Ohio engine
 plant  >>

Been there......, it's ben awhile though, was selling tools to them when
I lived in Ohio.

Chris.

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From: kissrulz@gnn.com (Craig Dobbins)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:46:45 -0400
Subject: (ANOTHER) '72 Olds Cutlass FOR PARTS

Hi,
  I am the same guy who listed the first '72 Olds Cutlass for
parts.  There happened to be another one that I just found in the
Buffalo News (Buffalo, NY).  I just thought I'd list the phone # of
the guy who has it incase anyone out there would like to call and
ask about the car.  The ad reads "OLDSMOBILE 1972 Cutlass whole or
parts, best offer.  (716) 853-1914."  Good Luck to any of those who
are interested.  If anyone is still interested in parts from the
one near my house, just send mail back to me.  I'm going to talk to
the guy who owns it this week.

Craig Dobbins.

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From: "Timothy A. Churchill" <tac3550@egbsun1.draper.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:17:58 -0400
Subject: Re: some car humor

Brad suggests:

> Hey Tim, Have you thought of 'Mac' for a nickname for the Fleetwood?
It > would sound kinda tough like 'Big Red'(Non-Sexist?) and maybe bring
back > memorys from the Seventy's and Eighty's music scene. Just a
thought.....

Hey, I like it!  Then I can play my 'Rumors' CD in it all the time...

And, as far as 'Big Red' goes, what's sexist about it??  I just might be
a Cornhuskers fan, or perhaps I'm really, *really* into that cinnamon
flavored gum from 10 years ago :) ...or perhaps I call it that cuz when
the top is down, the Spanish Red exterior and bright red interior make
it look really red, and kinda big... :)



Tim (Who Thinks Fleetwood Mac Went Downhill After Bob Welch Left)
Churchill - ------------- '67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible,
a.k.a. 'Big Red' '89 Cadillac Fleetwood, nickname yet to be determined
'91 Mazda Protege, a.k.a. 'The Next Car to be Replaced'

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