
oldsmobile-digest     Wednesday, January 14 2004     Volume 01 : Number 4742



Found a set of RH alt'r BRACKETS, and 750 and 800 CFM core CARBS
Fw: STOP ORDER
Fw: STOP ORDER
Re: Fw: STOP ORDER
Re: Fw: STOP ORDER
RE: STOP ORDER
Headers for 1970 98
[Fwd: Headers for 1970 98]
RE: [Fwd: Headers for 1970 98]
Re: reminder to be cautious with email scammers
Cleaning numerous bolts
Diesel engine broken crank but still worth it 
Re: Diesel engine broken crank but still worth it
Re: Cleaning numerous bolts
RE: Sunscreen
Re: Sunscreen
Re: Cleaning numerous bolts
Re: Cleaning numerous bolts
03 Nationals Pics in Hemmings
Re: Sunscreen
Re: Stop Order
Re: 03 Nationals Pics in Hemmings
Re: Stop Order
Re: Stop Order
Re: Headers for 1970 98

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:36:37 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Found a set of RH alt'r BRACKETS, and 750 and 800 CFM core CARBS

Greetings, this fine Tuesday morning!

Yesterday I found a few more items I had to have.

1) Olds Diesel 350 engine. Parting it out now, it's a junker. Saving grace: 
RH alternator mounts intact. Special boltstuds for heads in 1/2" size. Water 
pump boltstuds. That's about it I guess, the rest can go back for scrap when 
I haul next. Might possibly be a DX block, have not ck'd that yet, so may 
have roller lifters setup. Interested parties inquire within.

2) 1987 corvette carb, 750 CFM QJet core. Already on ebay.

3) 1989 GM truck carb, 800 CFM core. Also on ebay. Now, normally I do not 
buy C type carbs, corvette or not, but it's been so long since I saw ANY 
carbs, and these looked GOOD considering. Bonus, one is a Corvette 
application. Yippee.

Here's all the items on ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=*the*rocketscientist&since=30&sort=8&rows=25

Thanks for stopping by to ck it out.

If you care, here's what happens when low-feedback person violates the rules 
and bid w/o contacting me first:
http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws3/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=2453221525

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:49:09 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Fw: STOP ORDER

List,

The latest version of the Nigerian, et al, E-mail computer scam.

The next post is my reply. This crap is just too much. If everyone lashed
back at these bastards that way, they'd get just as much spam as they send
out.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Francis" <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
To: <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:17 AM
Subject: STOP ORDER


> FROM JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
> CHIARMAN INDEPENDENT CORRUPT PRACTICES COMMISSION
> HERITAGE PLAZA ABUJA NIGERIA
> E-MAIL:justice_philip2000@yahoo.com
>
> DEAR SIR,
>
>       AUTOMATIC STOP ORDER ON THE RELEASE OF YOUR OUTSTANDING
>                        CONTRACT PAYMENT
>
> THIS  IS TO FORMERLY INFORM YOU THAT I JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
> ,
> CHIARMAN INDEPENDENT CORRUPT PRACTICES COMMISSION IS THE PERSON WHO IS
> MAKING IT PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO RECEIVE YOUR PAYMENT FROM
> THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT AFTER CONCLUDING YOUR CONTRACT SATISFACTORILY.
>
> THE  REAL CAUSE OF IT, IS BECAUSE SOME TIME IN THE PAST YOUR SO CALLED
> LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES CAME TO MY OFFICE  TO SOLICITE FOR MY HELP IN
> ORDER TO FINALIZE YOUR CONTRACT PAYMENT, WHICH I DID WITH THE AGREEMENT
> THAT THEY WILL PAY ME MY SERVICE CHARGE AFTER HELPING THEM, BUT DO YOU
> KNOW WHAT HAPPEN AT LAST,THIS YOUR AGENTS REFUSED VEHEMENTLY TO PAY ME MY
> SERVICE CHARGE WHICH NECESISTATE ME TO PLACED AN AUTOMATIC STOP ORDER
> PENDING WHEN YOU WILL CONTACT ME FOR YOUR PAYMENT
>
> BE YOU ADVISE THAT BASE ON MY POSITION IN GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA TODAY I
> HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL AND PRESIDENTIAL FIAT/POWER TO RELEASE OR NOT TO
> RELEASE EVERY PAYMENT. BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA HAS
> GIVEN ME THE POWER TO THOROUGHLY CONDUCT INVESTIGATION ON EVERY CONTRACT
> PAYMENT BEFORE EVER IT CAN BE RELEASE TO THEIR VARIOUS BENEFICIARIES, MY
> PROFILE SPEAKS VOLUME OF WHAT I CAN BE ABLE TO DO, AND REMEMBER THAT
> WITHOUT ME NOBODY CAN EVER RELEASE YOUR PAYMENT.
>
> I DECIDED TO CONTACT YOU BECAUSE YOUR PAYMENT HAS BEEN LINGERING FOR A
> VERY LONG TIME NOW  WITHOUT ANY FORSEEN PROGRESS, BUT IF YOU STILL NEED
> THIS PAYMENT KINDLY CONTACT ME UPON THE RECIEPT OF THIS IMPORTANT AND
> URGENT MESSAGE.
>
> IF YOU ARE WILLING I AM READY TO HELP YOU OUT FOR YOUR  AGENTS HERE HAS
> NO PRESIDENTIAL MANDATE TO EFFECT YOUR PAYMENT.
>
> THANKS FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED COPORATION
>
> YOURS  FAITHFULLY,
> JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
>
> NOTE: REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL :justice_philip2000@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:50:05 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Fw: STOP ORDER

List,
My reply.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
To: "Philip Francis" <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: STOP ORDER


> YOU ARE A LYING, SCAMMING, CORRUPT PIECE OF TRASH. YOUR MESSAGE HAS JUST
> BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE ***FBI*** AND THE ***SECRET SERVICE*** AS A
FOREIGN
> TERRORIST CYBER ATTACK, UNDER THE AMERICAN HOMELAND SECURITY ACT AND THE
> PATRIOT ACT. BE PREPARED FOR ***DELTA FORCE*** COMING THROUGH YOUR
WINDOWS,
> CEILING, ROOF, AND YOUR FRONT DOOR LAST.
>
> _______________
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Francis" <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
> To: <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:17 AM
> Subject: STOP ORDER
>
>
> > FROM JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
> > CHIARMAN INDEPENDENT CORRUPT PRACTICES COMMISSION
> > HERITAGE PLAZA ABUJA NIGERIA
> > E-MAIL:justice_philip2000@yahoo.com
> >
> > DEAR SIR,
> >
> >       AUTOMATIC STOP ORDER ON THE RELEASE OF YOUR OUTSTANDING
> >                        CONTRACT PAYMENT
> >
> > THIS  IS TO FORMERLY INFORM YOU THAT I JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
> > ,
> > CHIARMAN INDEPENDENT CORRUPT PRACTICES COMMISSION IS THE PERSON WHO IS
> > MAKING IT PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO RECEIVE YOUR PAYMENT FROM
> > THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT AFTER CONCLUDING YOUR CONTRACT SATISFACTORILY.
> >
> > THE  REAL CAUSE OF IT, IS BECAUSE SOME TIME IN THE PAST YOUR SO CALLED
> > LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES CAME TO MY OFFICE  TO SOLICITE FOR MY HELP IN
> > ORDER TO FINALIZE YOUR CONTRACT PAYMENT, WHICH I DID WITH THE AGREEMENT
> > THAT THEY WILL PAY ME MY SERVICE CHARGE AFTER HELPING THEM, BUT DO YOU
> > KNOW WHAT HAPPEN AT LAST,THIS YOUR AGENTS REFUSED VEHEMENTLY TO PAY ME
MY
> > SERVICE CHARGE WHICH NECESISTATE ME TO PLACED AN AUTOMATIC STOP ORDER
> > PENDING WHEN YOU WILL CONTACT ME FOR YOUR PAYMENT
> >
> > BE YOU ADVISE THAT BASE ON MY POSITION IN GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA TODAY I
> > HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL AND PRESIDENTIAL FIAT/POWER TO RELEASE OR NOT TO
> > RELEASE EVERY PAYMENT. BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA HAS
> > GIVEN ME THE POWER TO THOROUGHLY CONDUCT INVESTIGATION ON EVERY CONTRACT
> > PAYMENT BEFORE EVER IT CAN BE RELEASE TO THEIR VARIOUS BENEFICIARIES, MY
> > PROFILE SPEAKS VOLUME OF WHAT I CAN BE ABLE TO DO, AND REMEMBER THAT
> > WITHOUT ME NOBODY CAN EVER RELEASE YOUR PAYMENT.
> >
> > I DECIDED TO CONTACT YOU BECAUSE YOUR PAYMENT HAS BEEN LINGERING FOR A
> > VERY LONG TIME NOW  WITHOUT ANY FORSEEN PROGRESS, BUT IF YOU STILL NEED
> > THIS PAYMENT KINDLY CONTACT ME UPON THE RECIEPT OF THIS IMPORTANT AND
> > URGENT MESSAGE.
> >
> > IF YOU ARE WILLING I AM READY TO HELP YOU OUT FOR YOUR  AGENTS HERE HAS
> > NO PRESIDENTIAL MANDATE TO EFFECT YOUR PAYMENT.
> >
> > THANKS FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED COPORATION
> >
> > YOURS  FAITHFULLY,
> > JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
> >
> > NOTE: REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL :justice_philip2000@yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:53:57 -0500
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: STOP ORDER

At Tuesday, 13 January 2004, you wrote:

>List,
>My reply.
>
>Milton Schick
>1964 442 Cutlass
>imp@theriver.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
>To: "Philip Francis" <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:46 AM
>Subject: Re: STOP ORDER

You just confirmed, to these Nigerian scammers, that your e-mail 
addy is valid; and further, that it is possible to get some kind 
of human response by sending e-mails to your addy  ;o(((((((

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER EVER respond to any of these e-mail scams from 
an e-mail addy that you value and want to keep, because that addy 
will be added to exponentially-more scammers "valid addies" list 
every day. You will soon be forced to either dump that addy or put 
up with spam filters that will require maintenance forever-more to 
check for valid e-mails and to dump the spam.

Sorry, Milton...

SteveH



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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:04:57 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fw: STOP ORDER

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Hahah

Go get em, Milton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Delta Force    : )

Vinny

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:06:35 -0500
From: "David J. Duffner - Trofeoworld.com" <oldslist@trofeoworld.com>
Subject: RE: STOP ORDER

Miltie,

	You sent it back to the bogus address
that it 'allegedly' came from.  I'd venture
a guess that your reply will either fly off
into oblivion or bounce back at you.

	Note the Yahoo account at the bottom 
of the e-mail, that's where the scamhound 
has a box.  Yahoo refuses to handle any complaints,
so every con artist in the World has an e-mail
box there.  I've filed countless complaints
to Yahoo over the years for various problem
e-mails, nothing ever happens.  Had clients 
and friends - same thing, same results.

	Send it again, worth the vent, but 
to the address at the bottom.  Beware, many
times these aren't even real scams but SpamLords
gathering reply e-mails as valid for selling
spam lists to others.  So a reply might trigger
floods of garbage to your inbox as well.  If you
have an 'I don't care about it' e-mail address
like a Hotmail, I'd send it from there instead.

      David J. Duffner
      VP Operations
      NWC Corporation
      NWCWEB.com
      
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
>[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Infinite 
>Space Systems, Inc.
>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:50 AM
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Fw: STOP ORDER
>
>
>List,
>My reply.
>
>Milton Schick
>1964 442 Cutlass
>imp@theriver.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
>To: "Philip Francis" <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:46 AM
>Subject: Re: STOP ORDER
>
>
>> YOU ARE A LYING, SCAMMING, CORRUPT PIECE OF TRASH. YOUR 
>MESSAGE HAS JUST
>> BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE ***FBI*** AND THE ***SECRET SERVICE*** AS A
>FOREIGN
>> TERRORIST CYBER ATTACK, UNDER THE AMERICAN HOMELAND SECURITY 
>ACT AND THE
>> PATRIOT ACT. BE PREPARED FOR ***DELTA FORCE*** COMING THROUGH YOUR
>WINDOWS,
>> CEILING, ROOF, AND YOUR FRONT DOOR LAST.
>>
>> _______________
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Philip Francis" <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
>> To: <justice_philip2004@marinersmvp.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:17 AM
>> Subject: STOP ORDER
>>
>>
>> > FROM JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
>> > CHIARMAN INDEPENDENT CORRUPT PRACTICES COMMISSION
>> > HERITAGE PLAZA ABUJA NIGERIA
>> > E-MAIL:justice_philip2000@yahoo.com
>> >
>> > DEAR SIR,
>> >
>> >       AUTOMATIC STOP ORDER ON THE RELEASE OF YOUR OUTSTANDING
>> >                        CONTRACT PAYMENT
>> >
>> > THIS  IS TO FORMERLY INFORM YOU THAT I JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
>> > ,
>> > CHIARMAN INDEPENDENT CORRUPT PRACTICES COMMISSION IS THE 
>PERSON WHO IS
>> > MAKING IT PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO RECEIVE YOUR 
>PAYMENT FROM
>> > THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT AFTER CONCLUDING YOUR CONTRACT 
>SATISFACTORILY.
>> >
>> > THE  REAL CAUSE OF IT, IS BECAUSE SOME TIME IN THE PAST 
>YOUR SO CALLED
>> > LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES CAME TO MY OFFICE  TO SOLICITE FOR MY HELP IN
>> > ORDER TO FINALIZE YOUR CONTRACT PAYMENT, WHICH I DID WITH 
>THE AGREEMENT
>> > THAT THEY WILL PAY ME MY SERVICE CHARGE AFTER HELPING 
>THEM, BUT DO YOU
>> > KNOW WHAT HAPPEN AT LAST,THIS YOUR AGENTS REFUSED 
>VEHEMENTLY TO PAY ME
>MY
>> > SERVICE CHARGE WHICH NECESISTATE ME TO PLACED AN AUTOMATIC 
>STOP ORDER
>> > PENDING WHEN YOU WILL CONTACT ME FOR YOUR PAYMENT
>> >
>> > BE YOU ADVISE THAT BASE ON MY POSITION IN GOVERNMENT OF 
>NIGERIA TODAY I
>> > HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL AND PRESIDENTIAL FIAT/POWER TO 
>RELEASE OR NOT TO
>> > RELEASE EVERY PAYMENT. BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF 
>NIGERIA HAS
>> > GIVEN ME THE POWER TO THOROUGHLY CONDUCT INVESTIGATION ON 
>EVERY CONTRACT
>> > PAYMENT BEFORE EVER IT CAN BE RELEASE TO THEIR VARIOUS 
>BENEFICIARIES, MY
>> > PROFILE SPEAKS VOLUME OF WHAT I CAN BE ABLE TO DO, AND 
>REMEMBER THAT
>> > WITHOUT ME NOBODY CAN EVER RELEASE YOUR PAYMENT.
>> >
>> > I DECIDED TO CONTACT YOU BECAUSE YOUR PAYMENT HAS BEEN 
>LINGERING FOR A
>> > VERY LONG TIME NOW  WITHOUT ANY FORSEEN PROGRESS, BUT IF 
>YOU STILL NEED
>> > THIS PAYMENT KINDLY CONTACT ME UPON THE RECIEPT OF THIS 
>IMPORTANT AND
>> > URGENT MESSAGE.
>> >
>> > IF YOU ARE WILLING I AM READY TO HELP YOU OUT FOR YOUR  
>AGENTS HERE HAS
>> > NO PRESIDENTIAL MANDATE TO EFFECT YOUR PAYMENT.
>> >
>> > THANKS FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED COPORATION
>> >
>> > YOURS  FAITHFULLY,
>> > JUSTICE PHILIP FRANCIS.
>> >
>> > NOTE: REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL :justice_philip2000@yahoo.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:21:32 -0500
From: Paul White <oldslist@netscape.net>
Subject: Headers for 1970 98

All,
Anyone know where to get headers for a 1970 98? Theres some shops around 
here thatll hook me up with a dual exhaust off the manifolds but i was 
looking for a header. If no one knows where to find ones for a 98, will 
ones for a 1970 Cutlass fit? Or something else that vintage?

paulbunyan

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:22:28 -0500
From: Paul White <oldslist@netscape.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Headers for 1970 98]

    ubject:     Headers for 1970 98
Date:   Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:21:32 -0500
From:   Paul White <oldslist@netscape.net>
To:     oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca



All,
Anyone know where to get headers for a 1970 98? Theres some shops around 
here thatll hook me up with a dual exhaust off the manifolds but i was 
looking for a header. If no one knows where to find ones for a 98, will 
ones for a 1970 Cutlass fit? Or something else that vintage?

paulbunyan

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:40:44 -0800
From: "Chris Fair" <cfair@att.net>
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Headers for 1970 98]

S'far as anyone round here knows they don't exist, except in the form of the
rare factory dual exhaust manifold which just clears the steering box. 

Cutlass 455 headers might work, but that's a long shot at best. 

Cheers,
cf 



- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Paul White
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:22 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: [Fwd: Headers for 1970 98]


    ubject:     Headers for 1970 98
Date:   Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:21:32 -0500
From:   Paul White <oldslist@netscape.net>
To:     oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca



All,
Anyone know where to get headers for a 1970 98? Theres some shops around 
here thatll hook me up with a dual exhaust off the manifolds but i was 
looking for a header. If no one knows where to find ones for a 98, will 
ones for a 1970 Cutlass fit? Or something else that vintage?

paulbunyan

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:46:19 -0800
From: Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.us>
Subject: Re: reminder to be cautious with email scammers

On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 10:08:04PM -0500, Christopher Witt wrote:
> local friend recently got his ebay acct hijacked
> I guess he or family member fell for the "dire warning, you must go to ebay 
> now to fix it [here's a link]" thing.
> 
> Roont his whole day.
> 
> Dire warnings are usually BS
> 
> Only to to ebay by YOUR route!

My father received something similar, only WRT EarthLink instead of eBay. 
Fortunately, Mozilla by default doesn't run JavaScript in email...clicking
the button in the scammers' message did nothing.

(At least he asked me if it was legit.  It only took two seconds to tell
that it wasn't.  Not getting scammed leaves you with more money to keep your
Olds in good condition. :-) )

  _/_   Scott Alfter (scott at alfter dot usTRAPEZOID minus shape)
 / v \  '77 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
(IIGS(  http://alfter.us/
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:15:46 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Cleaning numerous bolts

So, I gots me a new plan for cleaning mass quantities of Oldsmobile bolts. 
Acid dip is great, but the ones I get usually have severe grease coating 
which interferes with the action of the acid.

Buckets nest real nice, yer avg 5g buckets.

Sludge always collects in the grunge at the bottom.....

Clever Plan #1:
Nest 2 buckets. Top one is a sieve, with numerous small holes in bottom to 
let solvent and most grunge thru to bottom, where grunge can collect. Outer 
bucket contains the solvent. Agitate until you can't stand it anymore. Lift 
out sieve bucket, spray w/ brake cleaner, then air blast.

Clever plan #2: Put a series of [Olds rocker] bolts in lines thru the 
bottom/ sides of the sieve bucket... like a clothes drier drum. attach a 3rd 
bucket to gearmotor, slant at an angle, put bolts in sieve bucket, sieve 
bucket in solvent bucket, solvent bucket in 3rd bucket secured to slanted 
gearmotor, come back in a week and have nice clean tumbled items.

Clever plan #3 for larger items, too secret to discuss just yet. Should work 
wonderfully though.
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:19:33 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Diesel engine broken crank but still worth it 

partially dismantled the Diesel today. Got the alt bracketry off. Oil filter 
adapter, etc. Took #1-13 xst  mans off, to discover the rare and coveted 
BLOCKOFF PLATE for the dual exhaust setup using regular SB manifolds! Kewl! 
Worth the price of admission right there.

Oh, one more thing. This motor had the NIFTIEST little factory gadget. 
Teensy bracket that bolts to an xst man bolt and HOLDS THE DIPSTICK GUIDE 
TUBE STILL. I have fabricated such before, was unaware that GM alread had 
the part. Can anyone look up the PN for such a beast? GUESSING year 1985 or 
so.
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:43:06 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: Diesel engine broken crank but still worth it

Christopher Witt wrote:
> 
> ... This motor had the NIFTIEST little factory gadget. 
> Teensy bracket that bolts to an xst man bolt and HOLDS THE DIPSTICK 
> GUIDE TUBE STILL. 

That's the Dipstick heater, it makes sure the dipstick is at, or near, 
the exhaust manifold temperature :)))

Gets push gas station attendants every time.

Related story, the wife stopped the Intrigue for gas and had the oil 
checked and topped up.  Three days later the oil light came on.  Yep, 
gas station monkey didn't replace the filler cap. :((  Anyone need an 
oil soaked hood insulation blanket for a '99?
- --

Cliff "Why no, I didn't know that it was hot." Simpson & Kermit
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:48:44 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cleaning numerous bolts

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Clever Plan #4
Place grungy bolts in sieve, place in fireplace for twenty minutes. Grunge 
burns off. Immediately drop bolts into bucket of cold water. Cleaned and 
tempered, one easy step.

Bruce
75 Delta 88 Conv. (duals, of course)
72 Cutlass Conv.
56 190 SL Conv.
92 Eldo

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:06:46 -0500
From: "Christian Sager" <chris.sager@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Sunscreen

AHHHHH!

Its 20 some odd degrees here!

:-)

Christian

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Joe & Gloria
Varley
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:37 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Sunscreen

......hmmmmmmmm.........80 degrees today, and through the 
weekend.  Hmmmmm...the Cutlass convert top will be down all 
weekend..........now where did I put the sunscreen?????????

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:14:25 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Sunscreen

Back down to 0' tonight, by the weekend will be below 40" with the
windchill--------no sun so no need for sunglasses.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Sager" <chris.sager@cox.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: Sunscreen


> AHHHHH!
>
> Its 20 some odd degrees here!
>
> :-)
>
> Christian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Joe & Gloria
> Varley
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:37 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Sunscreen
>
> ......hmmmmmmmm.........80 degrees today, and through the
> weekend.  Hmmmmm...the Cutlass convert top will be down all
> weekend..........now where did I put the sunscreen?????????
>
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:44:37 -0800
From: Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.us>
Subject: Re: Cleaning numerous bolts

On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 04:15:46PM -0500, Christopher Witt wrote:
> So, I gots me a new plan for cleaning mass quantities of Oldsmobile bolts. 
> Acid dip is great, but the ones I get usually have severe grease coating 
> which interferes with the action of the acid.
> 
> Buckets nest real nice, yer avg 5g buckets.
> 
> Sludge always collects in the grunge at the bottom.....
> 
> Clever Plan #1:
> Nest 2 buckets. Top one is a sieve, with numerous small holes in bottom to 
> let solvent and most grunge thru to bottom, where grunge can collect. Outer 
> bucket contains the solvent. Agitate until you can't stand it anymore. Lift 
> out sieve bucket, spray w/ brake cleaner, then air blast.

Your local homebrew (beer) supply store might be able to help out on this
front...what you describe sounds exactly like a "Zapap" lauter tun.  While
most stores wouldn't sell these (other designs work better for homebrewing
purposes, and the design was proposed as something you'd build yourself to
get into all-grain brewing inexpensively), another gadget that most will
have is a false bottom.  They're available in plastic or stainless steel in
several sizes.  Instead of spending an hour or two drilling hundreds of
small holes in the bottom of a bucket, you can spend a few minutes cutting
out a hole in the bottom and place the false bottom over the hole.  That'll
do what you want, and the plastic ones ("Phil's Phalse Bottom" is the most
common) are inexpensive.

You might even be able to get away with just sticking the false bottom in a
bucket and sloshing the cleaner and parts around on top of it.  Dissolved
crud will get trapped under the false bottom, while the clean parts will sit
on top of it.

  _/_   Scott Alfter (scott at alfter dot usTRAPEZOID minus shape)
 / v \  '77 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
(IIGS(  http://alfter.us/
 \_^_/  rm -rf /bin/laden

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:24:26 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Cleaning numerous bolts

At 04:15 PM 1/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Clever plan #2: Put a series of [Olds rocker] bolts in lines thru the 
>bottom/ sides of the sieve bucket... like a clothes drier drum. attach a 3rd 
>bucket to gearmotor, slant at an angle, put bolts in sieve bucket, sieve 
>bucket in solvent bucket, solvent bucket in 3rd bucket secured to slanted 
>gearmotor, come back in a week and have nice clean tumbled items.

..... and there'll be no threads left on the bolts since they've been
grinding against one another  ;o\

Seriously, I don't see what the big deal is about hand-cleaning them.
Doesn't take that long. Sounds like machines to be invented when there's no
market, like that Gates character does up in the northwest  ;o\  ;o\  ;o\

SteveH

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:31:36 -0500
From: "Jay Britt" <jbritt67@mindspring.com>
Subject: 03 Nationals Pics in Hemmings

The latest issue of Hemmings Motor News features almost six pages of
pictures from the 2003 Nationals in Cincinnati. A few are even in color!.
One thing that jumped out at me was a '67 4-4-2 on Page 49. The caption
states:

"This is a highly unusual and very rare piece. It's a 1967 Cutlass 4-4-2,
one of four modified by Hurst to sell Oldsmobile on the Hurst/Olds concept,
and powered by the 455-cu.in. four barrel Toronado engine. This gem belongs
to Douglas Alsip of Cincinnati."

Ok, the 455 reference could be a typo (425?), but the Hurst mods caught my
attention. Does anyone remember this car, or possible could have seen it at
Nats?. This wasn't any relation to the "Hurst Hustler" car, was it?.


Jay Britt
OCA#29460
67 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe
99 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab
http://jbritt67.home.mindspring.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:48:51 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Sunscreen

  well at least nj is supposed to get snow for thursday, at least  i can get paid to plow.then take
my atv out and play
  ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
  To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Sunscreen


  > Back down to 0' tonight, by the weekend will be below 40" with the
  > windchill--------no sun so no need for sunglasses.
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Christian Sager" <chris.sager@cox.net>
  > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:06 PM
  > Subject: RE: Sunscreen
  >
  >
  > > AHHHHH!
  > >
  > > Its 20 some odd degrees here!
  > >
  > > :-)
  > >
  > > Christian
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
  > > [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Joe & Gloria
  > > Varley
  > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:37 PM
  > > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
  > > Subject: Sunscreen
  > >
  > > ......hmmmmmmmm.........80 degrees today, and through the
  > > weekend.  Hmmmmm...the Cutlass convert top will be down all
  > > weekend..........now where did I put the sunscreen?????????
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  >

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:50:21 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Stop Order

I find it amazing that everyone of you missed the entire point of what I
sent out.

First, that Nigerian scam E-mail had a very new twist. It accused the
recipient of defaulting on a contract. The writing and content was
hilarious.

So, I hit the idiots with my piece of over the top humor. I thought it was
funny.

As to any worry of answering a piece of spam and getting more spam, well, I
ran my own experiment and sent "remove me" notices to any type of spam that
ever entered my inbox. I did it for at least 6 months. It never made any
difference to the volume of spam I received.

I'm not going to worry about it. I had more fun with my form of offbeat
humor.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:56:39 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 03 Nationals Pics in Hemmings

> "This is a highly unusual and very rare piece. It's a 1967 Cutlass 4-4-2,
> one of four modified by Hurst to sell Oldsmobile on the Hurst/Olds
concept,
> and powered by the 455-cu.in. four barrel Toronado engine. This gem
belongs
> to Douglas Alsip of Cincinnati."


My knee-jerk, gut reaction is the car is a fraud. First, it wouldn't be a
455. At the remote best case, it would have to be a 425. And what's the big
deal about a Toronado engine? If it's supposed to be a Hurst/Olds promo, why
not a 425 based on the W30? I don't know what to say. At this late date, 36
years after the fact, there's no documentation available to prove it.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:45:21 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Stop Order

At 10:50 PM 1/13/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>I find it amazing that everyone of you missed the entire point of what I
>sent out.
>
>First, that Nigerian scam E-mail had a very new twist. It accused the
>recipient of defaulting on a contract. The writing and content was
>hilarious.

I wouldn't know whether it was a "new twist" or not; the LAST thing I'll
ever knowingly do is open a spam e-mail.

>So, I hit the idiots with my piece of over the top humor. I thought it was
>funny.

It was; but it didn't make any difference one way or the other except to
confirm that your e-mail address is, indeed, a valid target. You're
certainly not going to turn them off; they're just going to keep sending
you spam, hoping that sooner or later, they'll nail you with one of their
schemes and get rich quick from you  ;-|

Some of these spam e-mails contain scripts that automatically send a
message back to them to let them know that their e-mail was opened and so
the address is valid. They know then that they can keep sending stuff to
that address because their spam IS being opened and read, which is the wet
dream of all spammers. And they'll sell that address to other spammers,
creating even more spam. That's why it's a crummy idea to use an html
e-mailer and have the preview pane open. Plain-text e-mailers don't
automatically execute these scripts so there's nothing going back: their
spam simply disappears into an e-mail addy (like mine) and there's never
any kind of acknowledgement from my addy whether my addy is valid or not.
I'm a black hole to spammers, they never know whether I'm getting their
stuff or not but since I delete it all unread, they also never get any kind
of reply.

>As to any worry of answering a piece of spam and getting more spam, well, I
>ran my own experiment and sent "remove me" notices to any type of spam that
>ever entered my inbox. I did it for at least 6 months. It never made any
>difference to the volume of spam I received.

That's another of their favorite tricks: by responding to "remove me"
links, you're again confirming that your e-mail addy is valid and their
e-mail is, indeed, being read.

The best way to fight spam is to simply ignore it. Turn off your preview
pane, set your e-mailer to plain-text only, examine the subject line and
sender of each e-mail, and delete the spam without bothering to open it.
There's just no other way to fight it except to ignore it. They couldn't
care less what antispam laws are passed, in any country of the world,
because they're always sending from some anonymous account that can't be
traced easily.

>I'm not going to worry about it. I had more fun with my form of offbeat
>humor.

I get my jollies from tearing up all the little spam mailings from the
electric, gas, and phone companies then mailing them right back
:o)))))))))  It really POs me that these monopolistic utilities spend so
much money on useless advertising and gimmicks. If they concentrated on
delivering their products instead of trying to get me to buy more of their
useless trash, my own costs for their products would be lower. And who
knows: if natural gas, electricity, or phone service was cheaper, I just
might use more of it, eh  ;o\  But nooooooo..... they have to spend
millions of dollars each year having those useless full-color brochures and
pamphlets created and mailed to all their captive customers, all the while
lying through their teeth to state regulators that their rising costs
REQUIRE an increase in their fees and prices.

SteveH

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:59:57 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Stop Order

  you go get em milton
  ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
  To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 12:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Stop Order


  > I find it amazing that everyone of you missed the entire point of what I
  > sent out.
  > 
  > First, that Nigerian scam E-mail had a very new twist. It accused the
  > recipient of defaulting on a contract. The writing and content was
  > hilarious.
  > 
  > So, I hit the idiots with my piece of over the top humor. I thought it was
  > funny.
  > 
  > As to any worry of answering a piece of spam and getting more spam, well, I
  > ran my own experiment and sent "remove me" notices to any type of spam that
  > ever entered my inbox. I did it for at least 6 months. It never made any
  > difference to the volume of spam I received.
  > 
  > I'm not going to worry about it. I had more fun with my form of offbeat
  > humor.
  > 
  > Milton Schick
  > 1964 442 Cutlass
  > imp@theriver.com
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:42:11 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Headers for 1970 98

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In a message dated 1/13/2004 12:26:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
oldslist@netscape.net writes:
Anyone know where to get headers for a 1970 98?
I just put Thorly headers on my '72 350. Got em from Summit. Ceramic coated 
inside and out. About $530. Sounds, looks feels and runs great.

Bruce
75 Delta 88 Conv. (duals, of course)
72 Cutlass Conv.
56 190 SL Conv.
92 Eldo

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