
oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, January 31 2004     Volume 01 : Number 4760



Grundy Insurance
KE Pulley
WAS Re: figured it out Re: Worst Cars of All Time?  NOW See the 4 00G isn't the dog 
Re: Edelbrock O4B - Distributors
RE: KE Pulley
man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 
Re: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 
Re: 68-72 Metal Dash
Re: KE Pulley
81CS getting better
Cruise control help
'76 Cutlass Supreme Rear bumper needed
The latest & greatest Year One discount code
Re: Cruise control help
Interior Metal Painting
cruise control repair
Re: Interior Metal Painting
Re: Interior Metal Painting
Re: Rear Springs
Re: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 
66 C/S trunklid 4 door - convertible interchange? Tranny in 66???
Re: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 
RE: 66 C/S trunklid 4 door - convertible interchange? Tranny in  66???
Re: Interior Metal Painting
carbon removal

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:16:52 -0500
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
Subject: Grundy Insurance

I have been using Grundy for the past 4 years. Good folks to deal with,
and the price and service is excellent. I had one small claim that was
handled quickly and with no hassle. I recommend them.

Paul Tumolo
1970 442 hardtop
OCA # 31967

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:19:34 -0500
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
Subject: KE Pulley

Thanks for all the replies. So far, I still don't know what this pulley
fits. I can tell you that it does not fit a 70 442 with A/C and P/S.
The neck is very long. 

If anyone else has a parts book and can look it up, it would be
appreciated.

Paul Tumolo
1970 442 Hardtop
OCA # 31967

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:27:56 -0500
From: james.zito@ps.ge.com
Subject: WAS Re: figured it out Re: Worst Cars of All Time?  NOW See the 4 00G isn't the dog 

>From KingV:
That may be so, but I'm wondering if the 8/6/4, even running on all 8
cylinders, might not be competing for worst power-per-displacement ratio.
disp		fuel 	horsepower	torque		compres	bore x
stroke
- - -------	-----	----------	----------	-------
- -------------
8 - 368	4 bbl	150 @ 3800	265 @ 1600  	8.2:1  	3.800 x 4.060
8 - 368	FI	145 @ 3600 	270 @ 2000	8.2:1		3.800 x
4.060

and not to mention competing with the late-400 Olds V8 for worst case of
undersquaring.  A slightly worse bore/stroke (.938 Olds vs .935 Cad) than
the Olds.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- --------------------------

See the 400G isn't the worst engine ever designed by GM 
I was right all along!!!!!!!

Jim
69 442 conv
with 400G

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:31:05 -0500
From: robert.demuth@prudential.com
Subject: Re: Edelbrock O4B - Distributors

If you want HEI and it won't fit, don't forget this:

http://www.davessmallbodyheis.com/

I think there are a few listmembers running these?

Bob DeMuth.
'72 88 conv.
Some other stuff

>>>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:03:04 -0500
From: "W-Machines" <W-Machines@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock O4B

You can use the stock distributor with a petronix ignition, which is what I
have on the 98 or switch over to the MSD billet distributor.  Its costly
though.
regards
WMACHINES (Mark Prince)
<<<

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:28:22 -0500
From: Tom Bejma <tomcb@prplastics.com>
Subject: RE: KE Pulley

It wouldn't happen to be a chrome plated pulley that was on e*ay recently
would it?

Tom Bejma
Harrison Twp., MI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Tumolo [mailto:ptumolo@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:20 AM
> To: Oldsmobile-Digest
> Subject: KE Pulley
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the replies. So far, I still don't know what 
> this pulley
> fits. I can tell you that it does not fit a 70 442 with A/C and P/S.
> The neck is very long. 
> 
> If anyone else has a parts book and can look it up, it would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Paul Tumolo
> 1970 442 Hardtop
> OCA # 31967
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:38:53 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 

Will this oil filter mount fit a 1952 304 olds engine? If so please email me 
at
kc_huff@comcast.net
Sincerely
David G. Huff
=============
Not a chance
Totally different engines
I do have a 1960 394 engine
but I think they take a spin on filter housing or something.

List- anyone can assist this guy- please contact him directly at

khuff02@attbi.com

Milton?

- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

_________________________________________________________________
Find high-speed ‘net deals — comparison-shop your local providers here. 
https://broadband.msn.com

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:55:21 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 

I don't know.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
To: <khuff02@attbi.com>
Cc: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:38 AM
Subject: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine?


> Will this oil filter mount fit a 1952 304 olds engine? If so please email
me
> at
> kc_huff@comcast.net
> Sincerely
> David G. Huff
> =============
> Not a chance
> Totally different engines
> I do have a 1960 394 engine
> but I think they take a spin on filter housing or something.
>
> List- anyone can assist this guy- please contact him directly at
>
> khuff02@attbi.com
>
> Milton?
>
> -----------------------
> Chris Witt
> 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> Lansing MI 48911
>
> RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>
> Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
> Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Find high-speed ‘net deals — comparison-shop your local providers here.
> https://broadband.msn.com
>
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:57:57 -0800 (PST)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 68-72 Metal Dash

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Does anyone know if the metal portion of the dash from the windshield 
to the
instrument cluster is the same for 68-72 Cutlass? My 69 Cutlass metal 
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yep, all 68-72 would be the same.  good luck replacing/fixing that too, it's a PITA
 
Chris
grp442@yahoo.com
 
http://gloryrestoparts.20megsfree.com/
 
 
 
 


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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:57:13 -0500
From: "The General" <patton442@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: KE Pulley

Hey Paul and list,

        Are all three grooves "attached", is there about a 1/4 space between
the
first two grooves.....

The General


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
To: "Oldsmobile-Digest" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:19 AM
Subject: KE Pulley


> Thanks for all the replies. So far, I still don't know what this pulley
> fits. I can tell you that it does not fit a 70 442 with A/C and P/S.
> The neck is very long.
>
> If anyone else has a parts book and can look it up, it would be
> appreciated.
>
> Paul Tumolo
> 1970 442 Hardtop
> OCA # 31967
>
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:20:39 -0300
From: "Tour Op & Travel Agency Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net>
Subject: 81CS getting better

After driving her for a while the mpg go up and the performance goes up...
the best. Mpg arrive to 15 and the power is bigger as well.till not a rocket
but not so lazy anymore. I guess that after 1 yrs of almost no use is not so
abnormal.
I wonder which solution will ive me the best mpg: the ECU working with the
E2ME carb, or rather the std dualjet with HEI - with no ECU inluence? I
think the last suloution could be better, as the ECU will try to mantain
14.7 to 1 A/F ratio wheras the carb could be tunned to be on the lean side
rather...any thoughts?
I have no problem with the cats or any modifications to the engine if not
the 4.5% of CO and 800HC ppm. I can even take the EGR out.
rgds to all
Matt

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:23:37 -0500
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
Subject: Cruise control help

Rec'd personally.  Please reply to olds442@snip.net NOT to the list.

> I own a 1971 Olds 442 that came with factory Cruise Control.  My proeblem
is when I purchased the car all the hoses were disconnected from the
transducer assembly and I had no problem except the cruise did not work.
> 
> Since then I have restored the car.  Someone sent me the GM wiring diagram
for the criuse control and I hooked up the hoses correctly.  However since
then it still does not work and it snapped two speedomoter cables (the part
broken was the cable from the transmission to the transducer).
> 
> It seems like its o.k. for a while, then the transducer jams and snaps the
plastic end off the cable.
> 
> I cannot seem to find anyone who knows anything about the unit as not too
many cars came with cruise contral and the service manual I have is no help.
> 
> I hope you can help.
> Bill Berenato Sr.


Thanks,

 ~ Dan

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Daniel R. Gerow
'70 W-31 4spd post
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.oldsrocket.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:11:59 -0600
From: Rick Kromeich <wlrk06@email.mot.com>
Subject: '76 Cutlass Supreme Rear bumper needed

Ran into a guy at lunch today looking for a very clean rear bumper for a
76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham.
He is in the Chicagoland area.  Any leads, please forward them to me and
I will pass along.  Not looking to make anything on this myself, just
trying to hook up a fellow enthusiast.

Thanks and have a great weekend!
- -Rick
72 Cutlass Supreme Conv't
72 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:00:39 -0600
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: The latest & greatest Year One discount code

All,
	The latest & greatest discount thru Year One is 20% off of items, except for discount-exempt items.


The code is:  Stuck4


Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:59:25 -0500
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Cruise control help

I'd like to know something about this, too -why not CC the list?
Thanks,
Chris
- ----- Original Message -----

> Rec'd personally.  Please reply to olds442@snip.net NOT to the list.
>
> > I own a 1971 Olds 442 that came with factory Cruise Control.  My
proeblem
> is when I purchased the car all the hoses were disconnected from the
> transducer assembly and I had no problem except the cruise did not work.
> >
> > Since then I have restored the car.  Someone sent me the GM wiring
diagram
> for the criuse control and I hooked up the hoses correctly.  However since
> then it still does not work and it snapped two speedomoter cables (the
part
> broken was the cable from the transmission to the transducer).
> >
> > It seems like its o.k. for a while, then the transducer jams and snaps
the
> plastic end off the cable.
> >
> > I cannot seem to find anyone who knows anything about the unit as not
too
> many cars came with cruise contral and the service manual I have is no
help.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:28:50 -0600
From: "Tim Wagor" <twagor@cox.net>
Subject: Interior Metal Painting

I'm getting ready to repaint all the exposed metal (interior) pieces such as
steering column and the metal part of dash (that the pad attaches on). The
car is a '71 cutlass.

It appears that originally, the paint finish was lacquer semi-gloss or satin
finish. I want it to resemble the original finish when I am done.
What paints have worked the best for achieving the best outcome? Some say
the best match is with rattle can paint. Any good advise on this will be
appreciated.
Thanks Tim

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:59:44 -0500
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: cruise control repair

Hi all
    I have used and outfit called instrument repair services. Their web 
site is clocksandguages.com. They can repair a cruise control unit among 
other things. I have had a couple of things (not a cruise unit) repaired 
by them and found them quick,capable and honest.
LOL
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:01:38 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Interior Metal Painting

By far, use an air brush gun, dupont mixes well and cleans up easy. But if
you go spray bomb, I use Krylon or Dupli Color. I've done a lot of steering
colmns and krylon holds up the best against keys and such.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Wagor" <twagor@cox.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: Interior Metal Painting


> I'm getting ready to repaint all the exposed metal (interior) pieces such
as
> steering column and the metal part of dash (that the pad attaches on). The
> car is a '71 cutlass.
>
> It appears that originally, the paint finish was lacquer semi-gloss or
satin
> finish. I want it to resemble the original finish when I am done.
> What paints have worked the best for achieving the best outcome? Some say
> the best match is with rattle can paint. Any good advise on this will be
> appreciated.
> Thanks Tim
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:10:35 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: Interior Metal Painting

Tim,
I used Krylon Semi-gloss.  Not sure exactly how close of a match it is, but 
it reasonably matched the  35 yr old faded and scratched paint that was 
already there.

M

At 03:28 PM 1/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm getting ready to repaint all the exposed metal (interior) pieces such as
>steering column and the metal part of dash (that the pad attaches on). The
>car is a '71 cutlass.
>
>It appears that originally, the paint finish was lacquer semi-gloss or satin
>finish. I want it to resemble the original finish when I am done.
>What paints have worked the best for achieving the best outcome? Some say
>the best match is with rattle can paint. Any good advise on this will be
>appreciated.
>Thanks Tim

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:08:44 -0800
From: Kevin & Casey Olund <kcolund@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Rear Springs

Thanks for the spring info Milton. 

Kevin 

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:31:21 -0500
From: "Roc88ket" <roc88ket@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 

Normally there is a guy who advertises an adapter for a spin off filter in
JWO but he does not have an ad in the January newsletter. I've seen his ads
all over the place. I would try a search in Hemmings' website.

John Sanders
 '53 88
'01 Aurora 4.0

The '52 had a 303.7 CI inch engine but it is refrrred to as a 303.
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
To: <khuff02@attbi.com>
Cc: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:38 AM
Subject: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine?


> Will this oil filter mount fit a 1952 304 olds engine? If so please email
me
> at
> kc_huff@comcast.net
> Sincerely
> David G. Huff
> =============
> Not a chance
> Totally different engines
> I do have a 1960 394 engine
> but I think they take a spin on filter housing or something.
>
> List- anyone can assist this guy- please contact him directly at
>
> khuff02@attbi.com
>
> Milton?
>
> -----------------------
> Chris Witt
> 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> Lansing MI 48911
>
> RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>
> Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
> Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Find high-speed ‘net deals — comparison-shop your local providers here.
> https://broadband.msn.com
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:01:16 -0800
From: geo.aigel@netzero.net
Subject: 66 C/S trunklid 4 door - convertible interchange? Tranny in 66???

List:

I have the chance to pick up a 66 CS 4 door parts car. Besides the 330 w/ 
#3 heads there isn't much. The trunklid is in decent shape. Does the 4 door 
lid fit the convertible like it does in the later years? How much do they 
generally go for, for a 66? That would be a big ticket item that would help 
me make the decision if I should get this car or not.

Real stupid question. Could you get a C/S with a th400 in 66? What did they 
come with standard? I didn't pay attention to see if it had D-2-1 or D-1 on 
the right scale of the indicator...

George

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:58:02 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine? 

> Subject: man seeks OF adapter for 1952 Olds 303 engine?
>
>
> > Will this oil filter mount fit a 1952 304 olds engine? If so please
email
> me
> > at
> > kc_huff@comcast.net
> > Sincerely
> > David G. Huff


I guess the problem is no picture. Which oil filter mount? According to the
Offy catalog, '49 to '58 Olds is the same and '59 to '64 big block Olds is
the same. I don't know what you want.

The Offy catalog on pages 41, 44, and 45 has by-pass remote oil filter
adapters for all first generation Olds engines. Is that what you want, or do
you want something to adapt a spin on oil filter directly onto your '52 Olds
block?

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:09:17 -0500
From: "Kurt" <wmachine@shubes.net>
Subject: RE: 66 C/S trunklid 4 door - convertible interchange? Tranny in  66???

Nope. Only the 2 speed Jetaway.  Interestingly, '66 was the first year for
the Supreme, and it was available *only* as a 4-dr hardtop!

Kurt mailto:wmachine@shubes.net
http://wmachines.shubes.net
'65 Jetstar 1 (4-speed)       '66 442 Sport Coupe (Tri-Carb, 4-speed)
'67 442 Convertible (4-speed) '69 442 Convertible (3-speed manual)
'92 Achieva SCX W-41(5-speed) '99 Expedition (no-speed)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of
> geo.aigel@netzero.net
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:01 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 66 C/S trunklid 4 door - convertible interchange? Tranny in
> 66???
>
>
> List:
>
> I have the chance to pick up a 66 CS 4 door parts car. Besides the 330 w/
> #3 heads there isn't much. The trunklid is in decent shape. Does
> the 4 door
> lid fit the convertible like it does in the later years? How much do they
> generally go for, for a 66? That would be a big ticket item that
> would help
> me make the decision if I should get this car or not.
>
> Real stupid question. Could you get a C/S with a th400 in 66?
> What did they
> come with standard? I didn't pay attention to see if it had D-2-1
> or D-1 on
> the right scale of the indicator...
>
> George
>
>

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:58:19 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Interior Metal Painting

Ask here:

http://www.autobodystore.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?index

drc

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:36:30 -0500
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: carbon removal

Is there any magic solvent that'll take carbon off aluminum heads and
pistons? My motorcycle service manual says scrape with a wooden tool...

drc

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