
oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, January 17 2004     Volume 01 : Number 4745



455 Fuel Injection?
Re: 455 Fuel Injection?
Re: Headers for 72 88 (was 70 98)
Re: fan clutch 81CS
Re: 455 Fuel Injection?
RE: turn signal switch
Re: 455 Fuel Injection?
Re: Headers for 72 88 (was 70 98)
Re: Headers for 1970 98 - enlighten the A-body guys .........
Re: 455 Fuel Injection?
Re: turn signal switch
Re: turn signal switch
Re: turn signal switch
More stuffs in today - MT setup, DIY AT 455 block + Crank
man seeks door for 71 Cs
Replace 371 with 455?

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:57:50 -0800
From: Greg Tjosvold <tjosvold@polar7.com>
Subject: 455 Fuel Injection?

Are there after-market fuel injection kits available for the 455? 

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:14:17 +0000
From: joevitek@comcast.net
Subject: Re: 455 Fuel Injection?

> Are there after-market fuel injection kits available for the 455? 

In a word... no. Not turnkey, anyway. You can put your own together if you do the manifold fab.

The Torker for the 455 would prolly be the easiest to fab the fuel rail and injector setup. Then you could get any of the aftermarket controllers.


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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:04:43 -0500
From: robert.demuth@prudential.com
Subject: Re: Headers for 72 88 (was 70 98)

Fred N. wrote:
>>>>>
...'71-'76 was a completely different car with a forward mounted steering
linkage.  Lots of off the shelf headers work just fine, as do all sorts of
readily available manifolds.
<<<<<

and Milton wrote:
>>>>>
... Hooker Super Competition '71-'75 Delta 88 400-455 #3101 (1 3/4") and
3202 (1
7/8")
Hooker Competition (a cheaper header) '71-'75 Delta 88 400-455 #3902 (1
3/4")

If you have a small block, the 1 3/4" headers would fit, but they will hang
down about 1 1/2" too low and will drag over curbs and other interesting
objects. It's because of the difference in deck height between a small
block
and big block.
<<<<<

I should have clarified my question ... I have a 350, and I'd like to avoid
the 1 1/2 inch hang-down syndrome.  Those Hooker units also are listed for
the BBO Cutlass/VC, '65-'75, (as are Hedman 58150), so I wonder if the 350
units for the SBO '68-'77 Cutlass (Hooker 3107, or Hedman 58060) would work
with my 350 B body?

Bob DeMuth.
'72 88 conv
'96 Impala SS
'95 Ram 1500 4x4

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:39:11 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: fan clutch 81CS

matt
 hit me privatly with the aplication for the clutch fan. if you want i can get you a 4 seasons after market .
i can ship with other parts.
i will sell it to you for what it cost me.
new 4 seasons hd cooling $50.00 it is the  thermastatic type
money is not a problem if you want me to cover it for now
let me know
ron
> All that is nice, but... the price of a HD clutch is so high! 70 to 90 usd,
> and it can blow or stop working in less than 1 year....
> BTW, nice shop! Once I saw a shop with electrical motors and shoes on the
> same window, shoes for ladies they were!
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >    matt if you can not find a clutch fan assy. there
> >    a ford 302 clutch fans use same dia hub and bolt spaceing as the olds
> 350 so i would say it's the
> > same on a 260
> >   i found out they fit when my brand new  a/c delco clutch fan blew apart
> on a road trip to iowa.
> > what fun it was useing parts from other manufactures  cars to get the car
> out of some small a$$ town
> > in p.a. off rt 33
> >   knew i was in trouble whe sign read,
> >   auto repairs,used parts,  tackle and bate, also carry amunition.
> >   as soon as i found a larger town with auto parts store and dealer ship,
> replaced rad,shroud and
> > fan,with clutch hub. and hood  from local bone yard.
> >   ron
> >
> >
> 

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:40:22 -0700
From: Oldsmagnet <oldsmagnet@oldsmagnet.com>
Subject: Re: 455 Fuel Injection?

>>Are there after-market fuel injection kits available for the 455? 

http://www.rancefi.com/ManifoldsforSale/olds4.htm

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:11:31 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: turn signal switch

>does anyone know where i can find a turn signal switch for a 1960 super
>88.keith.

Me, no, not specifically, but do you have the GM part number for it? If not, 
you might want to try to turn up its number first, then you can do some 
more-specific Internet Googling for it (e.g. eBay, 
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com, other places like that).

Very unscientifically, ISTR that there were pretty much only four basic 
designs of turn signal switch used by GM across the board for umpty-zillion 
years: pre-1968, with or without tilt column, and post-1967 (when the 
column-mounted four-way flasher button was added), again with or without 
tilt column, so I don't think your search should be too horrendous for you.

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:08:34 -0500
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: 455 Fuel Injection?

   well that makes my old Rochester look pretty good!  almost 4 grand....
john
67 cutlass supreme



> >>Are there after-market fuel injection kits available for the 455? 
> 
> http://www.rancefi.com/ManifoldsforSale/olds4.htm
> 
> -- 

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:18:39 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Headers for 72 88 (was 70 98)

Bob,

> I should have clarified my question ... I have a 350, and I'd like to
avoid
> the 1 1/2 inch hang-down syndrome.  Those Hooker units also are listed for
> the BBO Cutlass/VC, '65-'75, (as are Hedman 58150), so I wonder if the 350
> units for the SBO '68-'77 Cutlass (Hooker 3107, or Hedman 58060) would
work
> with my 350 B body?


I know exactly what you're getting at. I've seen the crossover in the header
listings. There are 2 explanations. First, no one at Hooker may have ever
bothered to try a set of 3107 or 3901 headers on a '71-'75 Delta, because
the perception was only the installation of a big block would be a
performance option and would sell. That's typical short-sightedness. I can
promise you that today's Hooker is *not* the Hooker of 1975. Hooker lost
some of their soul when they were bought by Holley. Second, there could be
some specific bends and curves put into the A-body headers that would cause
interference, but they could be hammered and cut and rewelded out. You would
just have to take the risk and try to make a set of 3107 or 3901 headers
work.

I tried to make a set of 3901 headers work on a '64 A-body, and had to give
up. With some modification, I got the left side on. I gave up on the right
side. I just didn't have the tools here that I needed, and I was dismayed to
have to rebuild/reweld 3 of the primary tubes. The crossmember was in the
way.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:38:16 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Headers for 1970 98 - enlighten the A-body guys .........

Bob & List,

I'm getting dyslexia of the brain. I said:

> It would be a miracle if it did fit, but two determining factors will be
any
> interference from the previously mentioned steering box and the relative
> location of the engine supporting crossmember. That crossmember is located
> farther to the rear in a '68 and up A-body as compared to a '64-'67
A-body.
> That's why there's sometimes a different header listing for '64-'67 and
> '68-'72, particularly with a big block using primaries of 1 7/8" or
larger.


I meant to say:

**That crossmember is located further to the front in a '68 and up A-body**

That makes the primary tubes of the header loop farther forward in relation
to the header flange, which generally prevents '68 and up A-body headers
from fitting into a '64-'67 A-body engine compartment, unless one can beat
their brains out with mods to make the headers fit. A '68-'72 engine
compartment is much longer than a '66-'67, and a '66-'67 engine compartment
is a little longer than a '64-'65, but the crossmember stayed in the same
place.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:41:49 -0500
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: Re: 455 Fuel Injection?

Enough Said. I could save/buy another Olds
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:52:12 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: turn signal switch

  try napa auto parts they carry some weird things
  www.napa.com
  ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
  To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:11 PM
  Subject: RE: turn signal switch


  > >does anyone know where i can find a turn signal switch for a 1960 super
  > >88.keith.
  >
  > Me, no, not specifically, but do you have the GM part number for it? If not,
  > you might want to try to turn up its number first, then you can do some
  > more-specific Internet Googling for it (e.g. eBay,
  > http://www.gmpartsdirect.com, other places like that).
  >
  > Very unscientifically, ISTR that there were pretty much only four basic
  > designs of turn signal switch used by GM across the board for umpty-zillion
  > years: pre-1968, with or without tilt column, and post-1967 (when the
  > column-mounted four-way flasher button was added), again with or without
  > tilt column, so I don't think your search should be too horrendous for you.
  >
  > -- Andy
  >
  > _________________________________________________________________
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  > https://broadband.msn.com
  >

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:01:24 -0600
From: OLDSmobility <oldsmobility@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: turn signal switch

ron fama wrote:

>   try napa auto parts they carry some weird things
>   www.napa.com
>   ron


The URL you posted takes you to a software company. The one you need is 
at http://www.napaonline.com

Keith

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:10:39 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: turn signal switch

   oops, 
  i knew it didnt look right
  ron
  ---- Original Message ----- 
  From: "OLDSmobility" <oldsmobility@cableone.net>
  To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 7:01 PM
  Subject: Re: turn signal switch


  > ron fama wrote:
  > 
  > >   try napa auto parts they carry some weird things
  > >   www.napa.com
  > >   ron
  > 
  > 
  > The URL you posted takes you to a software company. The one you need is 
  > at http://www.napaonline.com
  > 
  > Keith
  > 
  > 
  > 

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:37:55 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: More stuffs in today - MT setup, DIY AT 455 block + Crank

Can hardly keep up with the flow here
Transes all spoken for I guess, friend of my brother's neighbor...

Today came:
1976 455 block with Nodular AT crank. AT-only block, F9, std bores, new cam 
bearings, crank needs polish.

J heads for the above, need valve job, 1 xst valve missing.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Manual Trans setup from "1968 GTO"
Except that the trans ID's as
1973 Cutlass [Lansing built Olds anyhow- 33Mxxxxxx VIN]
M20 wide ratio [best used with 3.55 and numerically lower gears]
dual-groove Fine spline input, TH400 sized output
2.56 1st gear ratio

Pedals assembly with Clutch disengaged starter safety switch

Z-bar, funky split design, with actuating rod [long]

Bellhouse with fork [not installed, not 10% sure it's correct...]

Shifter, with round handle stem/ stalk and Hurst handle
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Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:36:17 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: man seeks door for 71 Cs

reply directly to HIM please!!!

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Chris Witt
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>From: rockhoundrob2003@yahoo.com
>To: rocketscience442@hotmail.com
>Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2454361729
>Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:10:49 PST
>
>Hello,
>I am desperate for a 71 cutlass 2 door, drivers side door.  Is there any 
>chance that you can help me?  If not and you can direct me to someone that 
>can, i'd be very greatful.
>thanks,
>Vergee
>--------------------
>
>
>Question from:           candee*knight
>Title of item:           STEERING COLUMN floor shift 70 71 72 Olds 442
>Seller:                  *the*rocketscientist
>Starts:                  Jan-14-04 08:12:57 PST
>Ends:                    Jan-21-04 08:12:57 PST
>Price:                   Starts at $34.42
>To view the item, go to: 
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2454361729
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:35:41 -0800
From: Greg Tjosvold <tjosvold@polar7.com>
Subject: Replace 371 with 455?

Has anyone out there put a 455 where a 371 engine used to be? Any 
tips/warnings? I think I've decided on a 455 for my rod project now that I 
know that fuel injection is available (albeit very expensive).

'Best,

Greg

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