
oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, January 10 2004     Volume 01 : Number 4737



RE: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!
Re: The latest and Greatest Year-1 Discount Code (20%)
RE: ABS Brake Bleeding?
RE: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!
Re: Balancers' Timing Marks vary! [Specifics, boring, yawn]
Re: Balancers' Timing Marks vary! [Specifics, boring, yawn]
Brianne Re: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!
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RE: Brianne Re: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!
Fwd: 1964 Olds  I  CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!
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Re: Fwd: 1964 Olds  I  CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!
Re: The latest and Greatest Year-1 Discount Code (20%)
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RE: ABS Brake Bleeding?
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:18:13 -0500
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!

Now that is way cool!  Do they offer a four speed model?



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser





>From: "Daniel R. Gerow" <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
>Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Subject: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!
>Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 00:36:15 -0500
>
>All,
>
>After a four month wait, my 1/18th scale Rallye 350 from Exact Detail came
>today!  Man, their models are beyond cool.  They did a very good job
>reproducing the car in mini-me scale.  Engine bay and interior details are
>excellent, all the OAI stuff is there.  Undercarriage is great too.  
>Working
>suspension, doors, hood, trunk, seatbelts, visors, and the seat backs fold
>down too.  I love the individual brake and gas lines...AND, the hood locks
>are even in the correct (horizontal) unlocked position too!  Overall an
>excellent model.
>
>I took some quick pics for y'all to peruse. Follow this link:
>http://megatron.stonehill.edu/images/
>There are 7 images, filenames are: ed_rallye01.jpg - ed_rallye07.jpg
>
>While you're there, I posed some pics from the Boston Auto Show (in the
>"bostonautoshow03" folder, surprise surprise) so feel free to peep 'em.
>
>Rock on,
>
>  ~ Dan
>
>------------------------------
>Daniel R. Gerow
>'70 W-31 4spd post
>dgerow@stonehill.edu
>http://www.oldsrocket.com
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>

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:31:24 -0600
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: Re: The latest and Greatest Year-1 Discount Code (20%)

Chris,

- - ----- Original Message ----- 
>> All,
>> The latest and greatest discount code is:  Blue4.  Hurry!  Sale ends
>> Wednesday January 14

>How much % discount is this for?

The subject line of the emails says it all:

>Subject: Re: The latest and Greatest Year-1 Discount Code (20%), 2004.


Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
'98 Honda Civic (For Sale!!)
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:37:38 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: ABS Brake Bleeding?

>Just curious since we're on the thread of brake fluid, and bleeding
>if there are any special requirements when bleeding an ABS vehicle?

I wondered the same thing about my '93 SSEi, for which I have the factory 
manuals, and they make no real distinctions in brake-bleeding procedure as 
compared to non-ABS cars. What you're bleeding is the primary plumbing 
between the master cylinder and the wheels; the ABS plumbing is a slightly 
different part of town.

There is a separate procedure for cycling the ABS pump to flush the ABS 
lines but I must admit I didn't read that in much detail.

(...and in the True Confessions Department: when I replaced the master 
cylinder last summer, I did very thoroughly bench-bleed the master before 
installing it, but didn't actually bleed the lines themselves after 
reconnecting them -- I did cap them while they were disconnected -- and 
pedal was still nice and solid afterwards. But jeez, I really should bleed 
the system just to get that old fluid out sometime.)

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:41:12 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!

>I took some quick pics for y'all to peruse. Follow this link:
>http://megatron.stonehill.edu/images/
>There are 7 images, filenames are: ed_rallye01.jpg - ed_rallye07.jpg

*boggle*

Wow... impressive. Many many years ago I used to build 1/25-scale kits to a 
high level of detail (got a few trophies for my efforts), but this one, as a 
commercial model, looks stunning.

I missed the beginning of this topic but were they using an Olds 
listmember's car as a prototype for this model, or what? Was it yours?

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:48:40 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Balancers' Timing Marks vary! [Specifics, boring, yawn]

The 330 crank hub with the timing mark aligned with the
keyway is for AC equipped engines, because the balance weight is opposite.
The 330 crank hub with the timing mark about 90 degrees to the right of the
keyway is for non-AC engines, because the balance weight is about 90 degrees
to the timing mark.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com
===============
For the following, I will use RH/LH as the car's, and CW vs. CCW as facing 
backwards to car- facing engine from front.

Like so, perhaps:
1964 was only year for any RH timing marks [yet 64-w/AC used LH side? 
Milton?]
Therefoer for that application timing mark is about 90' CCW from key. 
[aligned w/ key, for AC?]

For engines with LH timing tab [driver's side], there were 2 possible 
configurations.
LH-00 = Timing mark right about in line with keyway, and
LH-11 = Timing mark about 11 degrees CCW of the keyway

Furthermore, there are al least 3 different diameters of Balancer.
Sm = 330 2-bbl, also much later 307 and 403, etc. - no rubberized outer ring 
at all.
Med = The common 350, 455 unit that you can still get from GM
   with smooth 1-OD rubberized outer ring
Lg = Thin or stepped OD outer ring, such as used on 330-4bbl, 425, 68-70 
350's and W31's

And, there are width diffences [fore-aft dimension of the outer ring] but 
let's not go there just yet.

I know the following from looking at parts on hand [admittedly no 1964 
parts]
- -Key on crank is pretty much right directly in line with #1/2 rod journals.

- -330-2bbl balancer [1965?] is type Small OD, LH-00; bears PN? 388243 cast 
in.

- -330-4bbl [known 1967 issue] is Large OD, LH-11; bears "1950-2" cast into 
weight backside.

- -455/350 common is also Large OD, LH-11

- -425 [unknown vinatage]  is Large-OD, Type LH-00 [unless its ring has spun 
to conveniently
   more or less exactly there].

- -In every case, the counterweight [which does vary in size] is _almost_ 
exactly
     right across from the keyway, but it's centered a little bit CW [maybe 
10 deg]
    The offset appears to be the same in each case, but no measurements made 
yet.

- -Strangely, the 330 balancer has a WIDER or LARGER counterweight
    than the very similar 425 Large-OD balancer.

- -a 425 Large/LH-00 unit bears PN? 382355 cast into the rear face of the 
center hub.

- -I have *almost* some of every type timing tab. I know there are versions 
for Med+Lg-OD vs.
    SM-OD; also LH-00 and LH-11 type [latter very common]. Not sure if every 
possible
    permutation of the 2 or 3 OD's and 2 timing mark vs keyway are on hand.

So far we have about 8 possible varieties of timing setup and thus timing 
tab 0-mark location, not te mention variations in timing tab material and 
shape, or Diesel configurations. [Eight comes from RH-LG-OD, RH-Sm-OD, and 
LH 00 or 11 degree offsets x each of three possible diameters- Lg, Med., 
Small.

Such complications, it's adanged wonder we ever got any of them right.
And that's all I can say on the subject at this time.
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:11:27 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Balancers' Timing Marks vary! [Specifics, boring, yawn]

> For the following, I will use RH/LH as the car's, and CW vs. CCW as facing
> backwards to car- facing engine from front.


No. The front of the car is the front of the engine.
The right side head is the passenger side, starboard.
The left side head is the driver side, port.

The non-AC hub has the timing mark about, not quite, 90 degrees to the right
of the keyway. The timing mark on the AC hub is aligned with the keyway. I
don't know about 307s, since I don't have any. The three 403s I've got all
have regular harmonic balancers with rubber mounted outer rings. I've never
seen a plain crank hub on a 403, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist,
even though I believe a plain crank hub on factory 403 is completely
foolhardy. There is way too much potential internal harmonics in a 403 to
try to get away with using a simple crank hub. Even in 330s, there's enough
internal harmonics that a crank hub will *not* prevent fatigue breaking of
the 1/2" front crank bolt on a 330 crank so equipped. I've broken 2, until I
switched to a 190,000 psi tensile strength allen cap screw. Those same
harmonics will also fatigue break the four 5/16" bolts that hold on the
crank pulley on a 3/4" bolt 330 crank. That's happened to me once and was
caught before severe damage occured. The fix was replacement of those 5/16"
bolts with allen cap screws. The 3/4" front crank bolt has proven to be too
massive to fatigue break. Mass always does win.


> Like so, perhaps:
> 1964 was only year for any RH timing marks [yet 64-w/AC used LH side?


I don't know exactly what you just said. '64 AC had the compressor on the
right side of the engine, just like other Olds second gens.


> For engines with LH timing tab [driver's side], there were 2 possible
> configurations.


Not for '64-'66 specifically.


> LH-00 = Timing mark right about in line with keyway, and


That's a '64-'66 330 crank hub.


> Furthermore, there are al least 3 different diameters of Balancer.
> Sm = 330 2-bbl, also much later 307 and 403, etc. - no rubberized outer
ring
> at all.
> Med = The common 350, 455 unit that you can still get from GM
>    with smooth 1-OD rubberized outer ring
> Lg = Thin or stepped OD outer ring, such as used on 330-4bbl, 425, 68-70
> 350's and W31's


Gak! Way to many variables here for the original question.

I'm referring solely to '64-'66 330 crank hubs. I have 6 of these hubs,
either on the cars or on the shelf. All 6 crank hubs are exactly, perfectly
identical, except for the one that came off of a '64 non-AC vehicle that has
the timing mark about 90 degrees to the right of the keyway. **Very
Important**, because '64 was the **only** year that crank hub and the odd
water pump and radiator was used. Starting in '65, *all* of the 330 crank
hubs were identical, no matter how the vehicle was equipped.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:10:48 -0600
From: "Brian Ammons" <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Brianne Re: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!

The pictures of the young lady are "not bad" either...a very beautiful
woman.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!


> Vinny et al,
>
> >How much  and where can we all get one?
>
> Exact Detail is the creator/manufacturer.  You can find them here:
> http://www.exactdetail.com/
>
> Mine was purchased through Diecast Muscle.com:
http://www.diecastmuscle.com/
>
> I believe it was about 90 beans.  Oftentimes, you can find them on eVil
for
> considerably less
>
> The General wrote:
> >Is there a problem with the exhaust ??????
> >Is the passenger side manifold incorrect ???
>
> Are you commenting on the lack of blocked off exhaust crossover?  All
their
> other models are big block cars (442s, Pace Cars, etc.) thus I think they
> just reused the "true dual" exhaust mans for this small block version.
>
>   ~ Dan
>
> -------------------------------------
> Daniel R. Gerow
> '70 W-31 4spd post
> dgerow@stonehill.edu
> http://www.oldsrocket.com
> -------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:07:07 -0500 
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
Subject: RE: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!

>Now that is way cool!  Do they offer a four speed model?

Nope, I think all their cars share the dual gate console...wish they'd make
a 4 speed though!


Andy wrote:
>I missed the beginning of this topic but were they using an Olds 
>listmember's car as a prototype for this model, or what? Was it yours?

Actually, one of the staff members at Exact Detail owns a Rallye 350 that
recently underwent a full restoration.  The ED guys documented the process
and used it to reproduce many of the base features on their '70 - '72
Cutlass line, and specifically for the Rallye model.  Personally, that whole
idea is so incredibly cool!

 ~ Dan

- -------------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
'70 W-31 4spd post
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.oldsrocket.com
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:10:39 -0500 
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
Subject: RE: Brianne Re: Exact Detail Rallye 350 is here!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Ammons [mailto:b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:11 PM
The pictures of the young lady are "not bad" either...a very beautiful
woman.

Ah yes.  I will pass along your compliments.  And she, good sir, would be my
lovely girlfriend.  The one who was kind enough to afford me one of the 1750
Rallye models produced...yah for birthday presents! :)

 ~ D

- -------------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
'70 W-31 4spd post
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.oldsrocket.com
- -------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:43:10 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: 1964 Olds  I  CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!

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Hello vinny,
       Thanks for the mail and i was able to see the pics, you have just only one of the pics. How soon can you get more pics of the car because i will like to see the engine pics most especially.
       But pls a cashiers check of $12,000 will be sent to you  pls as soon as you get it deduct yours and send the excess to my shipper who will be responsible for the shipping, you can provide me with name and address the check can be sent and also hope is in good  condition.
 
Thanks 
walter

HURSTOLDZ@aol.com wrote:
Hi Walter
 
here are all my pictures  http://photos.yahoo.com/hurstoldz     
 
Email me with any questions,  or call me  at 1 917 692-8987
 
Vinny



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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But pls a cashiers check of $12,000 will be sent to you&nbsp; pls as soon as you get it deduct yours and send the excess to my shipper who will be responsible for the shipping, you can provide me with name and address the check can be sent and also hope&nbsp;is in good&nbsp; condition.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Thanks <BR>walter<BR><BR><B><I>HURSTOLDZ@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:08:48 +0000
From: 62oldsfan@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: 1964 Olds  I  CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!

> But pls a cashiers check of $12,000 will be sent to you  pls as soon as you 
> get it deduct yours and send the excess to my shipper who will be responsible
> for the shipping, you can provide me with name and address the check can be
> sent and also hope is in good  condition.

Maybe you should have him contact your "overseas representative", a certain Mr. Witt in Lansing, MI...

Paul

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 22:11:45 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: 1964 Olds I CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!

>>But pls a cashiers check of $12,000 will be sent to you  pls as soon as 
>>you
>>get it deduct yours and send the excess to my shipper who will be 
>>responsible
>>for the shipping, you can provide me with name and address the check can 
>>be
>>sent and also hope is in good  condition.
>
>Maybe you should have him contact your "overseas representative", a certain 
>Mr. Witt
>in Lansing, MI...

I think first you should string him along enough to get the contact info of 
his "shipper," who obviously is in on the scam.

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:28:08 -0500
From: Joe Vitek <joevitek@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: 1964 Olds  I  CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!

HURSTOLDZ@aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello vinny,
>        Thanks for the mail and i was able to see the pics, you have just
> only one of the pics. How soon can you get more pics of the car because i

>>etc.<<

I don't get it. Vinny is selling a car, the guy is gonna send a cashier's
check to Vinny and then Vinny will send the balance to the shipper? For the
shipment of the car to the guy?

What'd I miss?

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'81 Supreme (soon to be FE3-X clone MS'ed road racer)
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:08:13 GMT
From: geo.aigel@netzero.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: 1964 Olds  I  CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!

I don't get it. Vinny is selling a car, the guy is gonna send a cashier's
check to Vinny and then Vinny will send the balance to the shipper? For the
shipment of the car to the guy?

What'd I miss?

Yup. He will send much more than the shipping usually costs. Then after he wired $ to the 'shipper', he will realize that the cashiers' check he got from the buyer was fake. Then the bank will take the money back out of his account and he will be short whatever he sent to the 'shipper'. It is a pretty mean scam, taking advantage of the fact that people think cashier's checks are 'safe'. Unfortunately they are not. 

If you get overpaid with a cashiers check and need to forward money elsewhere, it is 100% a scam. 

George

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:37:17 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: Sunscreen

......hmmmmmmmm.........80 degrees today, and through the 
weekend.  Hmmmmm...the Cutlass convert top will be down all 
weekend..........now where did I put the sunscreen?????????

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:27:30 -0500
From: "Erwin Mendoza" <olds6887442@hotmail.com>
Subject: test

I hope I made it :)



Erwin Mendoza
OCA# 29671
Rallye 350 Chapter(gone but not forgotten)
87 442 (gone as of 10/02/03)
68 442
Edison, NJ
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:38:19 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sunscreen

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It will go down to 4* tonite  with a high tomorrow of 16*

Where did I put my gloves???


Vinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:39:33 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: test

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:10:52 -0500
From: "Erwin Mendoza" <olds6887442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: test/Back again

Hello folks! My name is Erwin Mendoza some of you may remember me some may 
not.................oh well..............I used to belong here back in 
98-99, that seems so long ago, lots has changed for me, I'm now married, I 
bought my parents place and 2 months ago we had our first baby, my 87 442 is 
long gone and now in Warwick, NY and my 86 Cutlass Supreme (GN look-a-lke) 
was sold in 12/01 and is in Clifton, NJ which paid for the engagement ring 
I'm glad to be back


Erwin Mendoza
OCA# 29671
Rallye 350 Chapter(gone but not forgotten)
87 442 (gone as of 10/02/03)
68 442
Edison, NJ
mailto:olds6887442@hotmail.com

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:17:39 EST
From: HotRodHarrys@aol.com
Subject: Re: test/Back again

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Hi buddy...hope all is well with the growing family!!!  Give my best to Anna 
and Sara!

Harry
www.HotRodHarrys.com
Another 2003 Mustang Cobra

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e growing family!!!&nbsp; Give my best to Anna and Sara!<BR>
<BR>
Harry<BR>
<A HREF=3D"www.HotRodHarrys.com">www.HotRodHarrys.com</A><BR>
Another 2003 Mustang Cobra</FONT></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:23:54 -0500
From: Joe Vitek <joevitek@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: test/Back again

Erwin Mendoza wrote:
> 
> my 86 Cutlass Supreme (GN look-a-lke)
> was sold in 12/01 and is in Clifton, NJ which paid for the engagement ring

Ah, so that's why you aren't on the G-list anymore...

Congrats on everything!

- --
joe vitek (on the banks of the Merrimack River, Concord, New Hampshire)
http://oldsgmail.com/
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/joevitek/index.htm
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/C3carbhackers/
'83 H/O #2981 of 3001
'81 Supreme (soon to be FE3-X clone MS'ed road racer)
'72 Kawasaki H1 500cc

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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:27:29 -0500
From: Joe Vitek <joevitek@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: 1964 Olds  I  CAUGHT ME A SCAMMER!!!!

geo.aigel@netzero.net wrote:

> If you get overpaid with a cashiers check and need to forward money
> elsewhere, it is 100% a scam.

Ah, I see. So, could one cash the check? Get the actual cash for it? Or ask
the bank to check on it as a suspected scam? Then maybe nail these a$$hoes?

- --
joe vitek

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:35:47 -0500
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: The latest and Greatest Year-1 Discount Code (20%)

D'OH! Well, I guess I don't pay as much attention as I used to. :/
Chris
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
To: "Olds (E-mail)" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: The latest and Greatest Year-1 Discount Code (20%)


> Chris,
> 
> - ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> All,
> >> The latest and greatest discount code is:  Blue4.  Hurry!  Sale ends
> >> Wednesday January 14
> 
> >How much % discount is this for?
> 
> The subject line of the emails says it all:
> 
> >Subject: Re: The latest and Greatest Year-1 Discount Code (20%), 2004.
> 
> 
> Steve Reed
> '96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
> '70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
> '68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
> '98 Honda Civic (For Sale!!)
> Austin, TX
> http://www.sreed.0catch.com
> 

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 04:31:07 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Sunscreen

At 04:37 PM 1/9/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>......hmmmmmmmm.........80 degrees today, and through the 
>weekend.  Hmmmmm...the Cutlass convert top will be down all 
>weekend..........now where did I put the sunscreen?????????

You guys are just plain mean  ;o\  ;o\  ;o\

We will remember y'all down south there next time y'all want something from
us  ;o))))))))

SteveH

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 04:57:43 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Sunscreen

look at it this way cold weather builds character,and shows our dedication to work on our favorite projects despite  temps in the teens.
so as I'm thinking of warmer weather as NJ hits a whopping 18 deg with wind chill making feel like about 3 deg. for Saturdays to do list
Ron
  
 
> At 04:37 PM 1/9/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >......hmmmmmmmm.........80 degrees today, and through the 
> >weekend.  Hmmmmm...the Cutlass convert top will be down all 
> >weekend..........now where did I put the sunscreen?????????
> 
> You guys are just plain mean  ;o\  ;o\  ;o\
> 
> We will remember y'all down south there next time y'all want something from
> us  ;o))))))))
> 
> SteveH
> 

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:16:29 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Solvent is cold! Avoid touching it! 

Danged frigid lately here
working on the 71 cutlass 350 rebuild, goind well except that half of the 
bolts and pieces I gave to the machine shop for cleaning never even saw 
solvent or soapy water.

Solvent is danged cold in this weather even if you have the propane blast 
heater going. Flame and solvent, good combo. :-)

Anyhow, they did not touch the alt bracket, so I baked that in the flame of 
the propane heater to remove gunk. Oil fill tube, too. Placed them in the 
solvent afterward. Result: clean parts, and warm solvent.

Not certain that solvent was warm yet, I decided to try a trick which worked 
really well. Using long hose pliers- the kind with a rounded tip to grip 
hoses- I dug into the bolts and items in the solvent, and whatever was 
grasped got brought up, brushed a bit, and placed in the drainage area. That 
got like 99% of the items out w/o me getting hands covered in solvent.

Before the parts hit the solvent tank, I had them in a bucket, poured the 
old grungy solvent in there, and spent about 5 minutes swishing it back n 
forth, to do as much as possible with the old used stuff.
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:35:32 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: [none]

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 10:57:15 -0700
From: "Karl Sup" <droldslives@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: need accurate W31 damper measurements

Chris,

I have an NOS W31 unit on the shelf that I can take measurements and photos
of.

Karl Sup
Mesa, AZ
============
Braggart!
Well, yeah, I have a 4A block, and have laid hands on the 455 hemi, and have 
seen an experimental tri-carb intake and siamesed 455 block! so there!

but seriously, Supercars' web page numbers is enough to get me started...
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:09:40 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: RE: ABS Brake Bleeding?

the sequence depends on the way the system is split
example most us cars  use front chamber on master for front brakes
rear chamber  rear brakes
 some imports front chamber left front right rear
              rear chamber  right front  left rear
 diagnoly splitting system
 another point is type of fluid  most us and imports use  dot 3-5 
but some mfg's use mineral oil, rolls Royce loves it
did i mention we work on anything and every thing. currently doing  heads on ferrarie, they don't use head gaskets 
ron  
> >Just curious since we're on the thread of brake fluid, and bleeding
> >if there are any special requirements when bleeding an ABS vehicle?
> 
> I wondered the same thing about my '93 SSEi, for which I have the factory 
> manuals, and they make no real distinctions in brake-bleeding procedure as 
> compared to non-ABS cars. What you're bleeding is the primary plumbing 
> between the master cylinder and the wheels; the ABS plumbing is a slightly 
> different part of town.
> 
> There is a separate procedure for cycling the ABS pump to flush the ABS 
> lines but I must admit I didn't read that in much detail.
> 
> (...and in the True Confessions Department: when I replaced the master 
> cylinder last summer, I did very thoroughly bench-bleed the master before 
> installing it, but didn't actually bleed the lines themselves after 
> reconnecting them -- I did cap them while they were disconnected -- and 
> pedal was still nice and solid afterwards. But jeez, I really should bleed 
> the system just to get that old fluid out sometime.)
> 
> -- Andy
> 
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:12:02 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Need a Door

ask local wrecking yard to lok at hollinder interchange manual, i saw it on line some wher as well
ron
> Can anyone at least tell me if there is a difference in doors between the
> two tail styles.  Long 1/4 (supreme and conv.)  vs. the fast back
> 
> Aaron
>  http://www.aaron.trucksforsale.com/cutlass/
> 
> 
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,  I'm new to the list.  Actually I was on it a couple years ago
> until
> > I
> > > > went off to college but now I'm back.  Anyway,  I'm in desperate need
> of
> > a
> > > > pass. door for a 70 Cutlass Supreme.  If anyone has one or knows where
> I
> > > can
> > > > find one I'd appreciate it.
> > > >
> > > > Aaron
> > > > http://www.aaron.trucksforsale.com/cutlass/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:46:31 -0800 (PST)
From: jayandcindy@webtv.net (Jay and Cindy Bognar)
Subject: windshield wiper chattering

I seem to remember hearing about tightening the spring that is in the
hollow part of the arm.  The tension puts more force on the
arm-to-window, if I recollect correct.
Jay Bognar OCA
digest
72 Cut Sup
95 Aurora
86 442

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:57:23 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: OAI Hood Question

Not on the list, respond to dallassweet@netzero.net if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:   "dallassweet" <dallassweet@netzero.net>
Subject: 70 Cutlass S

I own a '70 Cutlass S (will 25 years in May) and recently decided to get =
it restored. It was equipped with the W25 hood but I never had the cold =
air box. I bought a cold air box a few years ago but have never used it. =
When the restoration man looked at the car he commented that he had =
never seen the hood with a screen attached to it on it's undeneath side. =
I never gave it a second thought, I always figured that the screen was =
stock. It forms to the hood and covers up about half of it.

Could you tell me if the screen was a stock? I have looked at several =
pictures but have not been able to find a picture of a bottom of the W25 =
hood.

Thanks!


Dallas Sweet
625 East Sage Brush St
Gilbert, AZ 85296-2330

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:39:35 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Sunscreen

Southern NH -10' below 0, wind chill factor........-30'
below...brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sunscreen


> look at it this way cold weather builds character,and shows our dedication
to work on our favorite projects despite  temps in the teens.
> so as I'm thinking of warmer weather as NJ hits a whopping 18 deg with
wind chill making feel like about 3 deg. for Saturdays to do list
> Ron
>
>
> > At 04:37 PM 1/9/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> > >......hmmmmmmmm.........80 degrees today, and through the
> > >weekend.  Hmmmmm...the Cutlass convert top will be down all
> > >weekend..........now where did I put the sunscreen?????????
> >
> > You guys are just plain mean  ;o\  ;o\  ;o\
> >
> > We will remember y'all down south there next time y'all want something
from
> > us  ;o))))))))
> >
> > SteveH
> >
>

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