
oldsmobile-digest      Tuesday, January 27 2004      Volume 01 : Number 4756



Re: Ground shipping
Re: Ground shipping
RE: 350 W31 forged pistons- is 2.5 thou too tight? 
RE: Ground shipping
Re: Engine Frame mounts
Re: Engine Frame mounts
A/C decal
Re: A/C decal
Re: A/C decal
UNBOUNCE: '39 rear fenders
Re: Harrison sticker
Re: Spendy 1967 Olds 400cid Lifters "957"
RE: A/C decal
RE: A/C decal - p.s.
Fw: shipping company
Re: 350 rebuild progress- crank is in, bores too small?
Re: Spendy 1967 Olds 400cid Lifters "957"
Worst Cars of All Time?
Re: Worst Cars of All Time?
Re: Worst Cars of All Time?
Re: Worst Cars of All Time?
figured it out Re: Worst Cars of All Time?
Re: Worst Cars of All Time?
Re: Worst Cars of All Time?
64 Olds Super88 394 carb question
RE: figured it out Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:49:04 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Ground shipping

fwd air ships terminal to terminal you must pick up or drop off, thats how i shipped matts 455 to chilli
ron
> 
> Forward Air,  www.forwardair.com,  best price is for terminal to terminal
> shipping, though I believe they do door to door.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> Polling the list for what has been discussed many times, but now I need
> that info, I can't recall it.
> 
> Who is the best ground shipper to use for a bare engine block?  It
> weighs about 200 lbs, and FEDEX ground has a 150lb limit.  Its coming
> from the US to Canada.
> 
> TIA,
> Ian Dixon
> Winnipeg
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:18:29 -0300
From: "Tour Op & Travel Agency Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net>
Subject: Re: Ground shipping

Right! Arrived quick and in perfect conditions. Forwar Air was the cheapest.
rgds
Matt

> fwd air ships terminal to terminal you must pick up or drop off, thats how
i shipped matts 455 to chilli
> ron
> >
> > Forward Air,  www.forwardair.com,  best price is for terminal to
terminal
> > shipping, though I believe they do door to door.
> >

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:28:43 -0600
From: "Reed, Stephen" <sreed@chatsworth.com>
Subject: RE: 350 W31 forged pistons- is 2.5 thou too tight? 

> Feeler gages says piston to bore clearance just under rings 
> is 2 to 2.5 thou.
> I thought forged pistons were supposed to be about 4-5 thou
> 
> Yet, TRW factory literature with the pistons says 2 to 2.5 thou

Just to let ya know, most of the engines that I bored and assembled in the machine shop had the piston to bore clearance of .003".

I specifically set my 445 to have .004" clearance.

What's the piston measure?  The clearance is built into the piston.  For example (And I'm sure you know this...) a 4.250" bore engine will usually have pistons that measure up to 4.247".


Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:18:50 -0600
From: "Ian Dixon" <IDixon@sbrc.ca>
Subject: RE: Ground shipping

Thanks for the info guys... I called forwardair and they unfortunately
have no stations anywhere near me (Minneapolis, MN is 600 miles to the
southeast).  Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal are about it for Canadian
service.  Vancouver dint even make the list.  Too bad.
- -Ian
Winnipeg (Aboriginal word meaning "land of low temperatures and tall
snowdrifts").

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Tour Op & Travel
Agency Trade 2000
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:18 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Ground shipping

Right! Arrived quick and in perfect conditions. Forwar Air was the
cheapest.
rgds
Matt

> fwd air ships terminal to terminal you must pick up or drop off, thats
how
i shipped matts 455 to chilli
> ron
> >
> > Forward Air,  www.forwardair.com,  best price is for terminal to
terminal
> > shipping, though I believe they do door to door.
> >

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:43:56 EST
From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
Subject: Re: Engine Frame mounts

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In a message dated 1/26/2004 2:53:02 PM Central Standard Time, 
droethel@rogers.com writes:
Does anyone have a set of 69-72 Cutlass engine frame mounts for a 455 they'd
like to sell?
Dan,  
       I'm pretty sure that the Parts Place sells these now as new 
reproductions.  Seem to remember a price of $79 or so.  I've seen used ones go for about 
this amount anyway, so if you can't find these elusive parts, try them.
Steve D

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:53:49 EST
From: S61starfir@aol.com
Subject: Re: Engine Frame mounts

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In a message dated 1/26/2004 5:50:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
NUOLDSMAN@aol.com writes:
Dan,  
       I'm pretty sure that the Parts Place sells these now as new 
reproductions.  Seem to remember a price of $79 or so.  I've seen used ones go for about 
this amount anyway, so if you can't find these elusive parts, try them.
Steve D
   I've seen the ones from Parts Place, they look pretty good just don't know 
haw they fit.

Everett  OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:13:58 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: A/C decal

I need the Harrison blue decal that is on the A/C box under the hood on a 
'72 442.  Does anybody know where to get this decal/sticker?  Fusick does 
not have them, and Year  One does not have it on line.  Car is going in for 
paint later in the week, and I want to assemble everything soon to 
re-assemble the car when it comes home.

Thanks,

Joe Varley

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:24:41 +0000
From: mmullins2000@comcast.net
Subject: Re: A/C decal

Joe,
USA Parts Supply lists P/n ADO249 as Harrison Air Cond Evap. Box Decal @ $3.60.
http://www.usapartssupply.com

M

- --
mark@marineaviation.org
> I need the Harrison blue decal that is on the A/C box under the hood on a 
> '72 442.  Does anybody know where to get this decal/sticker?  Fusick does 
> not have them, and Year  One does not have it on line.  Car is going in for 
> paint later in the week, and I want to assemble everything soon to 
> re-assemble the car when it comes home.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe Varley
> 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:27:12 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: A/C decal

Joe & Gloria Varley wrote:

> I need the Harrison blue decal that is on the A/C box under the hood on 
> a '72 442.  Does anybody know where to get this decal/sticker?  ...

I'd try Mark at http://www.drdecal.com/

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:11:35 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '39 rear fenders

Not on the list, respond to lighthouse_072003@yahoo.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:   Robert E <lighthouse_072003@yahoo.com>
Subject: rear fenders

Hello my name is Robert, i'm trying to restore a 1939 Oldsmobile but have
not been able to find the rear fenders or the the front hood. Do you know
of any places were I get them made metal or fiberglass or used. 


signature Robert

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:51:19 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Harrison sticker

I found the Harrison sticker/decal for the '72 442.  Dr. Decal has 
them.  Forgot to look there.  I do need a mint turn signal lever for the 
car. If anybody knows of a place with repros, let me know.

Joe Varley
     AZ

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:31:08 -0500
From: King V <king_v@mindless.com>
Subject: Re: Spendy 1967 Olds 400cid Lifters "957"

At 10:56 AM 01/26/2004 -0500, SteveH wrote:
>one them; but I'm curious. And how bout the Olds 262 V6 dissel (was 
>there really such an engine???).

Yes.  If I'm not mistaken, it was used in front-drive cars, maybe the
Cutlass Ciera?  Can't remember the application, but it does exist.

	- Joe Vahabzadeh

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:39:54 -0500
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: A/C decal

Old Car Network has it for $3. I just love those guys!

John Nasta



- -----Original Message-----


Joe,
USA Parts Supply lists P/n ADO249 as Harrison Air Cond Evap. Box Decal @
$3.60.
http://www.usapartssupply.com

M

- --
mark@marineaviation.org
> I need the Harrison blue decal that is on the A/C box under the hood on a
> '72 442.  Does anybody know where to get this decal/sticker?  Fusick does
> not have them, and Year  One does not have it on line.  Car is going in
for
> paint later in the week, and I want to assemble everything soon to
> re-assemble the car when it comes home.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Varley
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:45:09 -0500
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: A/C decal - p.s.

p.s. it's not listed on the web site yet, but I can get you one if you want
it.

John Nasta



- -----Original Message-----
From: John Nasta [mailto:email@johnnasta.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:40 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: A/C decal

Old Car Network has it for $3. I just love those guys!

John Nasta



- -----Original Message-----


Joe,
USA Parts Supply lists P/n ADO249 as Harrison Air Cond Evap. Box Decal @
$3.60.
http://www.usapartssupply.com

M

- --
mark@marineaviation.org
> I need the Harrison blue decal that is on the A/C box under the hood on a
> '72 442.  Does anybody know where to get this decal/sticker?  Fusick does
> not have them, and Year  One does not have it on line.  Car is going in
for
> paint later in the week, and I want to assemble everything soon to
> re-assemble the car when it comes home.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Varley
>

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:36:54 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Fw: shipping company

  this is a company i was told to use when shiping to minniapolis mn
  ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Edwardo Hernandez" <dowaldo@webtv.net>
  To: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:00 AM
  Subject: Re: shipping company


  > 
  > Ron,
  > 
  > It was Manna Freight Systems, Inc
  > 2440 Enterprise Drive
  > Mendota Heights, MN  55120
  > (651) 905-7500
  > 
  > Have this guy send me a email.
  > 
  > I'm just getting to checking my emails for the day after snow blowing.
  > 
  > Ed
  > 
  > 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:06:10 -0500
From: james.zito@ps.ge.com
Subject: Re: 350 rebuild progress- crank is in, bores too small?

> Ultrasonic may be the way to go but where you'd get one of those is quite
> beyond me ;o\

CBW ever hear of eBay???

Jim
69 442 conv
and tongue planted firmly in cheek!!

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:14:40 -0500
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Spendy 1967 Olds 400cid Lifters "957"

Any roller-cammed Olds diesel wiill have the .921" lifters, as well as
roller 307. Roller-cammed is the 350DX, flat-tappet is 350D. I believe the
same terminology applies to the 260, and the 262 (if you can find one!!)

V6 Diesel was optional in G-body as well, circa 81-82-83? Only available for
a few years. But it was supposedly the most advanced diesel engine to come
out of the family, though I don't know why?? GM did do an experiment
"hotrodding" the 262 in a Ciera, and it bested the performance of the gas
version by a wide margin, so they say.

Chris
- ----- Original Message -----
> At 10:56 AM 01/26/2004 -0500, SteveH wrote:
> >one them; but I'm curious. And how bout the Olds 262 V6 dissel (was
> >there really such an engine???).
>
> Yes.  If I'm not mistaken, it was used in front-drive cars, maybe the
> Cutlass Ciera?  Can't remember the application, but it does exist.
>
> - Joe Vahabzadeh
>

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:12:42 -0500
From: "Mike Evans" <mevans@jasnetworks.net>
Subject: Worst Cars of All Time?

Hey,

How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars of all time?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0

I know they weren't legendary quality, but gee wiz......on a list that
includes Pintos, Vegas, and Yugos?

Mike Evans
Richland, MI
'76 Cutlass S/461
www.time-save.com/cutlass.htm

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:06:49 -0500
From: "Fred Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

> How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars of all time?
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0
>
> I know they weren't legendary quality, but gee wiz......on a list that
> includes Pintos, Vegas, and Yugos?

- -----------------------

Other than the large number that came with Diesels, I can't imagine how
except for sheer ignorance on the part of the writer.  The Olds gas V8
versions of these cars had among the best repair history  and retained value
ratings of any cars made in the era.  Overall a damn good car.  I'd take one
above most cars made since.

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:11:36 -0500
From: "Fred Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

> How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars of all time?
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0


- --------------------

If you go the Forbes web site MSNBC snatched this from
(http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/26/cx_dl_0126feat.html) and click on view
results for the poll, you will see that the Olds is down around 2% in the
tally.  The readers are not as stupid as the columnist.

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:19:59 -0600
From: "Brian Ammons" <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

Yes, I don't really understand that either.  If they're going to put that
group in there, it would probably read '77 - '85...I don't know why they
would exclude the first two years, or the last...also, about not having
"legendary quality" - I still see a whole sh*tload of these on the road.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Evans" <mevans@jasnetworks.net>
To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: Worst Cars of All Time?


> Hey,
>
> How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars of all time?
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0
>
> I know they weren't legendary quality, but gee wiz......on a list that
> includes Pintos, Vegas, and Yugos?
>
> Mike Evans
> Richland, MI
> '76 Cutlass S/461
> www.time-save.com/cutlass.htm
>

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:29:59 -0600
From: "Brian Ammons" <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: figured it out Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

After finding and viewing the slideshow that highlights each car, we see
that the Deltas make the list solely as punishment for the 350 Diesel.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Evans" <mevans@jasnetworks.net>
To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: Worst Cars of All Time?


> Hey,
>
> How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars of all time?
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0
>
> I know they weren't legendary quality, but gee wiz......on a list that
> includes Pintos, Vegas, and Yugos?
>
> Mike Evans
> Richland, MI
> '76 Cutlass S/461
> www.time-save.com/cutlass.htm
>

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:34:10 -0500
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

At Tuesday, 27 January 2004, you wrote:

>Hey,
>
>How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars 
>of all time?
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0
>
>I know they weren't legendary quality, but gee wiz......on 
>a list that includes Pintos, Vegas, and Yugos?

THAT does it: I'm swearing off NBC forever. Ain't gonna take no crap 
from ahole mediahounds like that, myself.

The more I watch and see media, the more they turn me off. This morning,
those two idjits on the cable weather channel managed to get me 
to click the TV off before the "Local on the 8's" even came around 
because they kept saying "..... you'll find......  we'll be finding.
..." and all those kinds of inept repeated comments. Instead of 
talking halfway professional, they seem to think cuteness will endear 
them to me. Forget em, the way they make my ears turn red with embarrassment 
to hear grownups talk so childishly has completely turned me off 
weather.com. MSNBC was already in that not-so-rarified group but 
now, I'll MAKE SURE I never watch NBC on TV again. And they'll hear 
about it, too.

SteveH



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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:53:59 -0800
From: Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.us>
Subject: Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 09:12:42AM -0500, Mike Evans wrote:
> How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars of all time?
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0

Slashdot linked to the original article at Forbes.  Their comments WRT the
88 appeared to be aimed mostly at the Olds diesels, which weren't installed
in just the 88.  They also saw fit to slam the V8-6-4, which was (IIRC)
never installed in any Olds.

Getting car advice from Forbes seems to be about as smart a move as getting
home-improvement advice from Hot Rod magazine. :-)

  _/_   Scott Alfter (scott at alfter dot usTRAPEZOID minus shape)
 / v \  '77 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
(IIGS(  http://alfter.us/
 \_^_/  rm -rf /bin/laden

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Subject: 64 Olds Super88 394 carb question

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:45:28 -0500
From: "Kurt" <wmachine@shubes.net>
Subject: RE: figured it out Re: Worst Cars of All Time?

Figures.  Very simply, that is irresponsible reporting.  So Cadillac should
make the list, too (with their 4/6/8).

Kurt mailto:wmachine@shubes.net
http://wmachines.shubes.net
'65 Jetstar 1 (4-speed)       '66 442 Sport Coupe (Tri-Carb, 4-speed)
'67 442 Convertible (4-speed) '69 442 Convertible (3-speed manual)
'92 Achieva SCX W-41(5-speed) '99 Expedition (no-speed)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Brian Ammons
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:30 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: figured it out Re: Worst Cars of All Time?
>
>
> After finding and viewing the slideshow that highlights each car, we see
> that the Deltas make the list solely as punishment for the 350 Diesel.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Evans" <mevans@jasnetworks.net>
> To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:12 AM
> Subject: Worst Cars of All Time?
>
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > How does the '79-'84 Delta 88 make this list of worst cars of all time?
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=4063790&p1=0
> >
> > I know they weren't legendary quality, but gee wiz......on a list that
> > includes Pintos, Vegas, and Yugos?
> >
> > Mike Evans
> > Richland, MI
> > '76 Cutlass S/461
> > www.time-save.com/cutlass.htm
> >
>
>

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