
oldsmobile-digest        Sunday, May 23 2004        Volume 01 : Number 4899



Re: Head bolt torque?
Neat Intrigue Accessory
Rear axle question
Re: Rear axle question
Re: Total Number of Olds produced
anybody live in PA
Re: Total Number of Olds produced
425 D Block
RE: 56 windshield wiper assembly
RE: 56 olds rear window glass
Off Topic - S10 Transmission Problem (cont).

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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:38:16 -0500
From: "Allen Schwartz" <mycj@tds.net>
Subject: Re: Head bolt torque?

I had everything checked at the shop when I pulled them off the first time,
just in case

I feel real stupid right now. I just realized when I pulled the motor apart
I was in such a hurry I forgot to drain the radiator first. When I pulled
the head off (passenger side first) can you guess what happened? That's
right, I dumped a ton of antifreeze down the header. Guess which side has
been smoking
  After noticing there was a puddlew of antifreeze on the garage floor I
realized the only place it could have come from was the collector tube.
After running it awhile and after a short spin it is not smking anymore.
  I was so relieved this morning when I got back from my ride that I forgot
to check the oil to see if I was still "making oil" so I have to go out and
check now. I hope not. If it is I have to pull the timing cover off and
check in there. It is the only other place it could be getting in other than
a crack which is last resort. I have a good feeling though, especially after
talking to my father about the intake.
Allen Schwartz
A&L Enterprises
mycj@tds.net
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Head bolt torque?


> Allen,
>
> > > MIlton, I bought the heads new. Out of the box they were at 9.9
> > compresion. I wanted 10.5 so I could still run premium so there was not
> much
> > removed. I have the exact number somewhere but can't remember off had.
The
> > heads were done at rocket racing performance and they told me there
wasn't
> > enough taken off to need the intake cut.
> >
>
>
> Okay.
>
>
> > > Right off hand, I can only think of 2 ways to get antifreeze in the
> > exhaust
> > > that are engine related. Either the head gasket has a major leak and
the
> > > engine is sucking coolant out of the head gasket into the engine, or
> there
> > > is a crack in a head or cylinder wall that's letting the engine suck
> > coolant
> > > in.
> >
> >
> > I don't even want to consider this right now Milton,yes I may be in
denial
> > but I like it here
>
>
> :-)
>
>
> > I had heard stories of edelbrock torkers being shiped with the angle
wrong
> > so I had it checked just in case
>
>
> That I hadn't heard before. That would be real bad quality control.
>
>
> > First time around I used the reds, this time I used the fel pro 1155
that
> is
> > recomended for them. This gets expensive at 60 bucks per head gasket
>
>
> Okay, everything sounds right. ???
>
> If Edelbrock has had quality control problems on intakes, what if the
heads
> were a little short? What if the heads came with too much material milled
> off the bottom, throwing the intake manifold bolts off? No one would
> normally notice and only checking it would verify it.
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:31:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Neat Intrigue Accessory

Thanks to list member Jim Savnik, I picked up a neat idea. I ordered the
"3.5" emblem that is used on the 3.5 liter Aurora decklid and is the same
font as the "INTRIGUE" lettering on the decklid. It goes on the lower left
side of the decklid, neatly balancing the "Oldsmobile" nameplate on the
right side. Looks like it was made to go there. I recommend it! 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:26:12 -0400
From: Michael Ecker <ecker567@earthlink.net>
Subject: Rear axle question

I'm waiting for confirmation, but may have available an '86 Monte rear 
end w/ 4.11 gears but no posi.  I know this was not a stock gear ratio 
so likely rear was rebuilt at some point (or at least had the gears 
swapped out).  Thought it would give the 3.8 a little help in the '78 - 
this is a limited use vehicle at this point with a 350 or 403 and 200-4R 
planned as future upgrades.  Price for the rear (if still available) is 
$300 complete.

Any pros/cons?  Will the axles from the '78 7.5" rear fit the '86 Monte 
rear (asking due to the different stud sizes - SAE vs metric)?

I know.......  4.11 is a little steep for a street driven vehicle - 
would rather find a 3.42 or 3.73 rear from a T-type or 442 or SS, but 
they are almost impossible to find around here.  Speedo calibration will 
be another issue also, but there is a local speedo shop so would 
probably just take it there and let them do their magic.

Input welcomed!

Michael Ecker

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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 00:30:56 -0400
From: Joe Vahabzadeh <king_v@mindless.com>
Subject: Re: Rear axle question

At 09:26 PM 05/22/2004 -0400, Michael Ecker wrote:
>I know.......  4.11 is a little steep for a street driven vehicle - 
>would rather find a 3.42 or 3.73 rear from a T-type or 442 or SS, but 
>they are almost impossible to find around here.  


With overdrive, it's not too bad.  In 4th gear it's about the equivalent of
2.75 gears.

That would put you around 2250 RPM @ 60 MPH assuming you keep the
stock-size 195/75R14 tires.  Bigger tires will reduce that number.

Yes, it's definitely overkill for the lower gears, but still easily
bearable for the highway.


	- Joe Vahabzadeh

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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:26:49 -0400
From: "Ernie Johnson" <bigej@pivot.net>
Subject: Re: Total Number of Olds produced

>>BTW, the data shows that most of the Olds buyers are switching to
>>Hyundai.

>...so apparently GM will be shutting down Hyundai next. That's odd; I
didn't
>know they owned them...

Back when I stopped buying new Olds's I went to Saab.  Great cars!  Been
very happy for about 12 years.  Just read the other day Saabs general
manager is a woman named Debra Kelly-Innis..........................

Ernie Johnson

50 88
67 442

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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:32:57 -0500
From: "Bob" <macs63rd@iols.com>
Subject: anybody live in PA

Does anybody in Oldsmobile land live in or around Feasterville PA and could
look
at a car for me? email me privately.
Thanks  Bob

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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:49:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Total Number of Olds produced

On Sun, 23 May 2004, Ernie Johnson wrote:
> Back when I stopped buying new Olds's I went to Saab.  Great cars!  Been
> very happy for about 12 years.  Just read the other day Saabs general
> manager is a woman named Debra Kelly-Innis..........................

Just be glad it's not a woman named Karen Francis...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:39:25 -0400
From: "M. Gillespie" <mick442@rogers.com>
Subject: 425 D Block

Thanks to List Member Jim Murphy, I now have a 425 to build for my 69 442
convertible, (clone).

>From what I can tell from the FAQ it is almost certainly a 45 deg. CBA
block. It has .842" lifters and no drill spot. The pistons are almost
flattops. The recess is REALLY shallow.

Does anyone have any info to indicate that the possibility of a 39 deg. CBA
exists? What's the easiest way to measure it?

As I can afford it, I'll be looking for "C" heads to match the year of my
car and possibly an Offy intake manifold. Anyone have good used ones; Cheap?

My web site URL has changed again:
http://members.rogers.com/mick442/oldspage.htm

Hopefully, I'll have enough time to be more active on the List and build the
425.

Mick Gillespie
mick442@rogers.com

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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 08:53:46 +1200
From: "Greg Rotto" <grotto@es.co.nz>
Subject: RE: 56 windshield wiper assembly

Hi all I have a 56 olds Holiday Super 88 4 door pillarless and am having
problems working out how to get the windshield wiper arm assembly off the
pivot arm - appears to be a push on with a clip?? But I do not want to force
this as the stainless will chip/bend - any helpful clues would be great!!

The next problem I am having is removing the rear window glass.  I have
basically disassembled the entire door but seem to have one connection point
left which will not release the glass from the front control arm/assembly??
Has anybody done this??  This will be a mission to get back together but the
glass was cracked in a severe cold spell in Alberta many years ago and am
now doing the full resto.

Thanks

Greg Rotto

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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:10:57 +1200
From: "Greg Rotto" <grotto@es.co.nz>
Subject: RE: 56 olds rear window glass

I have a 56 olds holiday super 88 pillarless 4 door. I am having problems
removing the rear window glass.  I have basically disassembled the entire
door but seem to have one connection point left which will not release the
glass from the front control arm/assembly??  Has anybody done this??  This
will be a mission to get back together but the glass was cracked in a severe
cold spell in Alberta many years ago and am now doing the full resto.

Thanks

Greg Rotto

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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:35:16 -0500
From: Dave Popadic <davepopadic@core.com>
Subject: Off Topic - S10 Transmission Problem (cont).

After replacing the transmission I have one heck of a leak.  Can not
tell (easily) where's it's coming from.  My understand (which is
limited) could be a couple of different places:

a) when the speedo cable connects (easy to tell, isn't there)
b) where the detect cable hooks
c) where the dipstick connects
d) where the lines run into the tranny
e) front seal of the tranny (behind the converter?)
f) pan
g) where the driveshaft connects

Here's the problem.  After filling the tranny full and taking for a
drive, have a HUGE, almost steady leak, coming from the passenger's
side.  Leak will continue (regardless if the truck is running) til it
loses around 2.5 quarts and then it stops.  Can drive it (doesn't
shift very well) and will not leak.  On the passenger's side would be
the lines, detect cable and dipstick.  Which one would make the most
sense?  Dipstick?  I've check and it "feels" like it's in there
alright?  If the lines were not tighten all the way, wouldn't the leak
always?  Pan has been re-sealed and doesn't appear to the problem.

Just wanted a quick opinion before I start checking stuff.

Thanks,
Dave

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