
oldsmobile-digest       Monday, April 12 2004       Volume 01 : Number 4853



Re: Toronado part needed ........
The Earnie Story
Plug, rear of LH oil gallery
More best buys: Zinc Rich Coating
Pertronix Install
Re: 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58 vapor lock?
65 442 Washer Jar
Re:more 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58
Re: trunk mount battery install
Re: Grill Parts
Re: Re:more 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58
steering gear leaky
1967 442 yellow on yellow convert
Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?
Re: 65 442 Washer Jar
Re: Re:more 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58
Re: Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?
Re: Longest owned Olds
58 vapor lock?
RE:Link to Late Owner's Manuals
Re: Bumper Rechromers? & Link to Late Owner's Manuals
Anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport minivan?
Re: That ain't no BB! Is it?
Re: FS: 1965 330-2V Stick Shift Engine
Intrigue Dashboard Question
Re: Anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport minivan?
pertronix - again
new rear end and minor work on the F-85
Re: Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?
Re: Bumper Rechromers? & Link to Late Owner's Manuals
Re: Longest owned Olds - 67 yellow on yellow option

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:38:58 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Toronado part needed ........

  try napa auto parts
  ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
  To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Toronado part needed ........


  > >         Can someone post this to the Toro list ???
  > > I need an axle shaft nut for a pre 78'. This is actually for
  > > a 75 Eldorado. The end of the axle snapped off and away
  > > went the nut. The replacement shaft has no nut.
  > 
  > Done.
  > 
  > Regards,
  > Fred
  > 

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:07:25 -0400
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
Subject: The Earnie Story

Earnie,

YUDA MAN!!!!!!

Great story.....for us 50+ guys, those back in the day stories bring
back good memories.....

Paul Tumolo
1970 442 Hardtop
OCA # 31967

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:10:16 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Plug, rear of LH oil gallery

just removed the one from the '66 330 engine tonite
it was 5/16 hex drive, not square drive
:-(
My special tool no workee
New hex key wanted to break off, too tough
no hex socket drive on hand
what's this, a Craftsman T50? With 5/16 hex stock
Put that in there with the Blue Point Impact...
Took it right on out, no problems.

Nothing like a GOOD impact wrench
and the right drive tool is nice too.

anyhow, I thought it odd that the 1966 330 had a HEX type, not square 
recess.
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:14:01 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: More best buys: Zinc Rich Coating

This stuff is great
Fence makers use it when they have to weld galvanized pipe and it's for 
outdoors use.
Available at the welding supply store. About $8 a can.
Rattle Can weighs like 2x as much as a can of paint.
Goes on real nice
Looks a lot like thick galvanized coating
I used it on heat stove and motor mount heat shield on the 1971 Cutlass 
engine project
very nice results, if not 100% perfectly factory correct finish.
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:29:02 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pertronix Install

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:54:00 -0400
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
Subject: Pertronix Install

Runa 14 gauge wire from the "IGN" spade on the fusebox to the + side of
the coil. This is a key operated 12V source.

Disconnect the resistor wire and tape it to the harness.

Works great, and you can return to stock easily.

Paul Tumolo
1970 442 hardtop
OCA # 31967
=====================
That terminal comes right out real easy after ya get the old goo out of the 
way, terminal tang is the the usual trick. Tiny screwdriver does it. NEW 
terminals available at NAPA, crimp onto your new wire  with correct tool or 
needle nose. Solder for best results, THEN crimp last ears onto insulation. 
Press into place, seal over with similar goo, I find windshield seal strip 
black goo sticks to ANYTHING, even milk jug polyethylene, and is DIRT CHEAP 
at about $3 a 20 ft roll from NAL [1-800-428-4300].

Tape ends of old wires back, run new wire to dist'r. Voila'.
Looks right
Behaves right
highest standards
easily reversed should the need ever arise.
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Chris Witt
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:05:56 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58 vapor lock?

Randy...sweet ride.....so how old is Granma and Granpa???? Good for her for
driving it!!!

Tami

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:43:10 -0500
From: "Eric Beaupre" <ebeaupre@eserv.biz>
Subject: 65 442 Washer Jar

Can someone confirm that this will fit a 65 442?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7900011444

If it's slightly off that's fine, I just can't see spending $40 from a
catalog if this is close enough for my "driver" car.

Thanks
Eric

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:37:54 -0400
From: Cutlass7276@netscape.net (Randy Hermsen)
Subject: Re:more 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58

"ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net> wrote:

>Randy...sweet ride.....so how old is Granma and Granpa???? Good for her for
>driving it!!!
>
>Tami
>
>Hello
I really not sure how ole she is but i did take a pic or two more of her car today,,i shoulda got her to pose with her car,,next time..... i was doin very consistent times in the 58:)..dialed a 15.98 and ran a 15.98,,gotta love a sunny good weekend racin.... I will get a elec. pump in and she will be quicker...also gonna feed the fuel rail from both sides on the tri carbs,,,thanks Steve and Milton fer the advice a carter pump will be in hand soon.
  http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1080603434322_0411_004.jpg 
 http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1082222703355_0411_003.jpg 
> http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1082927074781_0411_006.jpg 
 http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1081107814910_0411_005.jpg 
  http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1081858614093_0411_008.jpg 
 http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1081722586443_0411_007.jpg
  http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1083391578094_0410_020.jpg 
I talked with them today again...Granpa did a 16.00 in her car,,she was runnin and dialing a 19.00,,,she never raced before...but she had a good day with her family racin!
Good luck!
Randy H.
Maple Ridge B.C.
 http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1080817933655_0411_002.jpg 

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:10:07 -0500
From: "Jeff Carter" <blue442@odsy.net>
Subject: Re: trunk mount battery install

The starter really needs to be engaged with the flexplate/ flywheel before
it starts turning.

Often installation of the ford solenoid is done by jumpering the high
current and solenoid terminals at the starter.  This sets the starter motor
spinning before it's fully engaged thus shortens the life of starter and
flywheel teeth.

I'd just get some serious welding cable, wrap at least once with convuluted
tubing, route it through the frame and secure it well to minimize abrasion.
That should be fine in a constant hot state especially with a kill switch in
the trunk.

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:51:19 -0700
From: Kevin & Casey Olund <kcolund@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Grill Parts

> 69 cutlas or what  kind of gril
> jeff
>
 
69 cutlass (not 442)

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:55:14 -0700
From: Kevin & Casey Olund <kcolund@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Re:more 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58

I like the custom tire covers!

>  http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1080817933655_0411_002.jpg 


Kevin 

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:32:35 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: steering gear leaky

William Grumblatt Jr wrote:
>I put a used power steering gear box on the 67 88 last year and now it's a 
>leaking like the original (which I still have)  Has anyone on the list 
>rebuilt their own? I have never done one, But then I never rebuilt an 
>engine before the 425. Its been 3 1/2 years and still running. (I love my 
>shop manual). Just a wondering if someone had some personal experience 
>rebuilding one. Also going to replace the power steering pump and hoses. 
>Figure It all should be done at same time. Power steering pump with or 
>without reservoir? Don't have a spare to mess with, any problems there, on 
>swapping the resevoir?
>  Bill G
>67 Delta 88 Custom
>87 Custom Wagon (not quite running yet)
Bill
    I have rebuilt one steering box about 30 years ago (I was a
dealership tech) This not an easy task and I reccommend that you find
someone in your area to rebuild it for you. Just getting the
recirculating balls back in and correct is a bear.
LOL
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio
==========
No need to get carried away
If it's just leaking, just replace the offending seal[s]
Pitman seal can be done w/o dismantling
remove what holds it
run motor, turn steering to end and hold
pressure should blow out the seal
[have catch pan ready]
Replace seal and what holds it
voila'

Reservoirs never seem to match, it's always just a teeeeeensy but different.
Watch that spacer between bracket and pump at the adjusting bolt.
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:35:12 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: 1967 442 yellow on yellow convert

From: "Ernie Johnson" <bigej@pivot.net>
Subject: Re: Longest owned Olds

[snip nice story of how the 67 came to be owned]

There was a ratty old 1967 442 convertible nearby a while back.
I looked at it one day
J head 455
Needs TLC
Yellow paint, yellow interior
would be BEAUTIFUL refreshed
Got the guy's #
Last year he says his son has it and is "fixing it up"
Hope that does not mean a Chevy 350 engine and purple paint.
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Chris Witt
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 01:01:08 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?

Huh
no kidding
Edelbrock "O4B" intake
I thought only Offy made O4B's and OL4B's

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36474&item=2472949889&rd=1

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:30:01 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 65 442 Washer Jar

Eric,

I'm sorry, but that jar on eBay is ****not**** even remotely like the
windshield washer jar for a '65 Olds A-body. I've got a brand new one
sitting on my carport shelf. That jar looks more like an aftermarket
universal coolant recovery tank.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Beaupre" <ebeaupre@eserv.biz>
To: "OLDS List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:43 PM
Subject: 65 442 Washer Jar


> Can someone confirm that this will fit a 65 442?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7900011444
>
> If it's slightly off that's fine, I just can't see spending $40 from a
> catalog if this is close enough for my "driver" car.
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:36:01 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Re:more 62 Cutlass rear eng. pics/58

Wow, that transmission pan is sure low to the ground on the '62 Cutlass.

Wow, again. Now we know what Randy looks like!

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:45:53 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?

Chris,

That's correct. The O4B is Edelbrock. Offy is very different. Personally, I
didn't like the Edelbrock O4B when I used them decades ago. That's how I
discovered Offy was better. A stock cast iron '65-'66 big block intake with
the plenum milled out to match the base of a Holley or AFB and a 1" spacer
worked better than an O4B.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:01 PM
Subject: Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?


> Huh
> no kidding
> Edelbrock "O4B" intake
> I thought only Offy made O4B's and OL4B's
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36474&item=2472949889
&rd=1
>
> -----------------------
> Chris Witt
> 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> Lansing MI 48911
>
> RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>
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> Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:01:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Longest owned Olds

Well, Ernie, I guess your message made it through this time. :) Great
story. I wish I had seen your car at Lansing. I love that '67 yellow
interior, and I've never seen one in a car other than one with yellow
paint.

I was visiting Boise, Idaho in the summer of '96, and encountered a '67
convertible in a parking lot in yellow with the yellow interior. While I
was busy drooling over it the owner came out. I regret now not making him
an offer to buy it on the spot. What a unique car.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: J Pajak <ransomeliolds@yahoo.com>
Subject: 58 vapor lock?

- --- "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
wrote:
Buy a Carter 100 GPH electric fuel pump that is self
regulated at 7 psi...no
regulator needed. Mount it as close to the gas tank
as possible. Run a 10
gauge wire back to it. Use at lease a 3/8" fuel line
to the carbs. A 1/2"
line would be better.

*************************
I believe that's the #4594 Carter Pump. Same one I
have on the 72 W30. I have mine as a pusher, mounted
near the tank, and I still have the original
mechanical pump on the engine. Low 13s back to back,
no problems in the heat.




=====
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http://jspajak.tripod.com

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:50:38 -0400
From: "Eric Holcombe" <eholcombe@engineeringservicesgroup.com>
Subject: RE:Link to Late Owner's Manuals

<I'm wondering about copyright violations for putting those on the web but
<have never seen any copyright notices in the CSMs. Haven't looked in the
<owner's manuals.

That's a GM site. I don't think the copyright is an issue. Apparently you would normally need an invitation or registration to enter from the homepage - without your helpful link of course. You can navigate around to recall notices as well, but you can't see which vehicle it's for without opening the file.

Thanks for the info. Now if you'll just track down those CSM's please....

Eric "Intellectual property huh? - well, that's debatable" Holcombe

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:33:38 -0500
From: SKammerer@alberto.com
Subject: Re: Bumper Rechromers? & Link to Late Owner's Manuals

Steve,

Where are you located??  THE FINISHING TOUCH in Chicago does a good job, but
they are expensive.

Steve K.




Folks on another reflector I'm on are looking for both suppliers of new
A/G-body bumpers and rechromers. The Bumper Boyz have been mentioned but I
recall there's at least two others with much better reputations; can't
rember who, tho...

Thanks,
SteveH

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:14:52 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport minivan?

Has anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport minivan? 
Ours is losing coolant at an impressive rate, and although I haven't caught 
it actually dripping, the spray pattern under the hood seems pretty clearly 
to indicate that a weep hole behind the water pump pulley is leaking, and 
the spinning pulley is then hurling it all over the place. (I guess this is 
better than a leaking radiator, which I had first suspected, but which I now 
notice isn't steaming or dripping at all; it's just getting wet along with 
everything else in line with the pulleys.)

The job looks deceptively simple since the pump is up front and apparently 
easy to remove; any tips (and pricing for the part) appreciated before I 
launch into this on Thursday.

- -- Andy

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:59:27 -0400
From: robert.demuth@prudential.com
Subject: Re: That ain't no BB! Is it?

Milton wrote:

>>>
4) The engine is sucking dirt into the crankcase. Notice the air inlet to
the crankcase on the right valve cover. It's not hooked to the inside of
the
air cleaner anymore, so it isn't getting filtered air. Sooooo, dirty air is
going into the crankcase for air exchange. Not cool at all.
<<<

Actually, if that engine is anything like the 350 Olds that came in my '72
88, it's got so much blowby that it is spewing oily vapors all over the
inside of the eingine compartment.  It will pull in dirty air in a high
vacuum condition (closed throttle plates at high RPM, decelerating), but at
all other times, whether idling, steady state cruising, and especially
under hard acceleration, the absurd amount of blowby will blow oily air
right out that breather hole.  I had to unhook my breather tube from the
air cleaner assembly, after the constant flow of oily air actually PUDDLED
oil in the bottom of the air cleaner, which then soaked the air cleaner
element in oil (a do-it-yourself K&N!) and dripped all over the carb body
through the carb hole in the air cleaner ass'y.  That engine is resting in
peace now ... or more likely it was probably melted down and made in to 3
or 4 Toyotas.

Bob DeMuth.
'72 88 conv.

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:06:39 -0500
From: SKammerer@alberto.com
Subject: Re: FS: 1965 330-2V Stick Shift Engine

Gene,

I am interested in this engine for sale.  How soon would it need to be picked
up?  I live in IL and it would take some arranging to get it.  Alsoo, do you
have the pedals/shifter/tranny to go with it?

thanks,  Steve Kammerer
847-797-5632




Hi Guys,
    I have a decent running 330-2V engine that was pulled from a 1965
f-85 that I would like to sell. It includes the flywheel, pressure
plate, clutch and bellhousing. I pulled this a couple of years ago and
cleaned and painted it. I had installed it in my '64 project car but
then ended up buying a nicer '64 Cutlass instead. Since then the engine
has been sitting on a custom made engine dolly in my climate controlled
garage. It turns over nicely and should still run okay. Before I pulled
it this engine ran smoothly without noises or leaks except for the
normal seepage that you would expect from a used engine.
    I am asking $300 for it including the stand but you would need to
pick it up near Atlantic City. I have a hoist so loading it on your
truck would not be a problem. If interested please reply privately.
Thanks,
Gene
64f-85@comcast.net

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:42:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Intrigue Dashboard Question

Anyone here ever tried to do some DIY repair on an Intrigue dash? Mine has
a buzz in cold weather that apparently comes from the instrument cluster
lens area, since if you press on it the buzz goes away. It looks simple
enough to remove the black plastic bezel surrounding it, since there are 2
screws at the top holding it in. I removed those, but couldn't get the
thing to budge. Not wanting to break something, I gave up. What am I
missing (besides mechanical aptitude)? 

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:06:34 -0400
From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport minivan?

> Has anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport
minivan?

> launch into this on Thursday.

- --------------------

A few minutes before your message arrived, I found a full set of shop
manuals for these while looking for another book in the pile of boxes that
have yet to be unpacked from a move.  I can xerox the relevant pages and
mail them, or fax them if you want.  Not sure if snail mail will arrive in
time.  I would scan them, but I'm on dial up and the scans end up being very
large files if they are to be legible.

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: pertronix - again

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got no response the first time, so trying again.  anyone ever bought a pertronix?  if so where did you get it and for how much?  Thanks.
 
 
Greetings all,
I'm looking to pick up a pertronix ignitor (1181LSCC) and was wondering 
who carries it at the cheapest price.  I know Jegs and Summit have them 
for $74.95 (and I believe one of them has free shipping, need to double 
check)  I also found a place in Missouri that lists them on ebay 
starting at $54.50, but I need 2 and when I called, buying them outright they 
are $79 each.  And they don't plan on listing anymore until sometime 
next week.  Sooooo, I'm back to shopping around and would like to know 
who's got the best deal on them.
 
TIA
Chris
grp442@yahoo.com
 
1969 W-31  motor will be ready next month
1970 F-85
1969 442 parts car
1970 F-85 parts car
plus a whole mess of parts for sale



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<DIV>Greetings all,<BR>I'm looking to pick up a pertronix ignitor (1181LSCC) and was wondering <BR>who carries it at the cheapest price.&nbsp; I know Jegs and Summit have them <BR>for $74.95 (and I believe one of them has free shipping, need to double <BR>check)&nbsp; I also found a place in Missouri that lists them on ebay <BR>starting at $54.50, but I need 2 and when I called, buying them outright they <BR>are $79 each.&nbsp; And they don't plan on listing anymore until sometime <BR>next week.&nbsp; Sooooo, I'm back to shopping around and would like to know <BR>who's got the best deal on them.<BR> <BR>TIA<BR>Chris<BR><A href="http://us.f808.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=grp442@yahoo.com&amp;YY=40462&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0&amp;view=a&amp;head=b">grp442@yahoo.com</A><BR> <BR>1969 W-31&nbsp; motor will be ready next month<BR>1970 F-85<BR>1969 442 parts car<BR>1970 F-85 parts car<BR>plus a whole mess of parts for sale<BR></DIV><p><hr size=1><font face=arial size=-1>Do
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:34:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: new rear end and minor work on the F-85

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Greetings all,
 
Well this weekend I picked up my new toy.  I will now be running under my 69 W-31 a 68 TW coded factory 31 spline 4.33 posi rear end.  Internally it's all ready to go as it's had a fresh rebuild.  New bearings, new seals, 300 pound S spring to replace the factory 200 pounder.  I just need to add my brakes and polygraphite bushings to the housing and she's all set.
 
I also started some minor work on the 70 F-85.  The front bumper was bent and had a rust hole from a previous accident which happened before I bought the car, so I decided to remove it as I have a straight solid core to put on.  Of course another benefit was to figure out why the hood was always difficult to close.  Well, I knew the tongue was hitting the bumper so thats fixed now.  But I also found out the latching mechanism needs to be greased.  The little "thingy"  (technical term) wasn't hitting the racheting latch mechanism thingy (another technical term) so everytime the hood was shut the latch wouldn't catch.  Now I just need to find my white lithium grease and she should be good to go.  Now I just need to figure out whether I want to remove the bumper brackets from the frame or just install the good bumper.  The rear pan head bolts started spinning, so they are shot and I need to cut/drill them out and replace with something else.  Or, I can chance it and just tighten the
 bumper brackets with the forward mounting hardware since they came out fine.  This bumper had to have been replaced at one time previously as the stainless capped bumper bolts that you see from the exterior all came out waaaaay too easy, not that I'm complaining.  And this is on a car that spent its entire life in Minnesota.
 
But all told it was a good weekend.
 
Chris
grp442@yahoo.com
1969 W-31  soon to be 4.33 geared
1970 F-85  soon to have a straight front bumper
1969 442 parts car
1970 F-85 parts car
plus a whole bunch of parts for sale


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<DIV>Greetings all,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Well this weekend I picked up my new toy.&nbsp; I will now be running under my 69 W-31 a 68 TW coded factory 31 spline 4.33 posi rear end.&nbsp; Internally it's all ready to go as it's had a fresh rebuild.&nbsp; New bearings, new seals, 300 pound S spring to replace the factory 200 pounder.&nbsp; I just need to add my brakes and polygraphite bushings to the housing and she's all set.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I also started some minor work on the 70 F-85.&nbsp; The front bumper was bent and had a rust hole&nbsp;from a previous accident which happened before I bought the car, so I decided to remove it as I have a straight solid core to put on.&nbsp; Of course another benefit was to figure out why the hood was always difficult to close.&nbsp; Well, I knew the tongue was hitting the bumper so thats fixed now.&nbsp; But I also found out the latching mechanism needs to be greased.&nbsp; The little "thingy"&nbsp; (technical term) wasn't hitting the racheting latch mechanism thingy (another technical term) so everytime the hood was shut the latch wouldn't catch.&nbsp; Now I just need to find my white lithium grease and she should be good to go.&nbsp; Now I just need to figure out whether I want to remove the bumper brackets from the frame or just install the good bumper.&nbsp; The rear pan head bolts started spinning, so they are shot and I need to cut/drill them out and replace with
 something else.&nbsp; Or, I can chance it and just tighten the bumper brackets with the forward mounting hardware since they came out fine.&nbsp; This bumper had to have been replaced at one time previously as the stainless capped bumper bolts that you see from the exterior all came out waaaaay too easy, not that I'm complaining.&nbsp; And this is on a car that spent its entire life in Minnesota.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But all told it was a good weekend.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Chris</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:grp442@yahoo.com">grp442@yahoo.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>1969 W-31&nbsp; soon to be 4.33 geared</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85&nbsp; soon to have a straight front bumper</DIV>
<DIV>1969 442 parts car</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85 parts car</DIV>
<DIV>plus a whole bunch of parts for sale</DIV><p><hr size=1><font face=arial size=-1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:55:53 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?

edelbrock has made a torker 2  recently  good threw 7000 rpm they eliminated the ctr bolt holes to give beter radias to center ports. is anyone running this intake? its a race only because its range is around 3000 rpm.
ron
> Chris,
> 
> That's correct. The O4B is Edelbrock. Offy is very different. Personally, I
> didn't like the Edelbrock O4B when I used them decades ago. That's how I
> discovered Offy was better. A stock cast iron '65-'66 big block intake with
> the plenum milled out to match the base of a Holley or AFB and a 1" spacer
> worked better than an O4B.
> 
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:01 PM
> Subject: Edelbrock made Offenhauser intakes?
> 
> 
> > Huh
> > no kidding
> > Edelbrock "O4B" intake
> > I thought only Offy made O4B's and OL4B's
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36474&item=2472949889
> &rd=1
> >
> > -----------------------
> > Chris Witt
> > 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> > Lansing MI 48911
> >
> > RocketScience442@hotmail.com
> >
> > Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.

> > Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
> >
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> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:56:31 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Bumper Rechromers? & Link to Late Owner's Manuals

At Monday, 12 April 2004, SKammerer@alberto.com wrote:

>Steve,
>
>Where are you located??  THE FINISHING TOUCH in Chicago 
>does a good job, but they are expensive.

I'm in Connecticut but I'm not the one looking; I'm just trying to 
pass on names of places that folks like.

Thanks,
SteveH



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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:02:29 -0700
From: Paul Kelleher <pjkell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Longest owned Olds - 67 yellow on yellow option

Great and inspiring story Ernie.
I also have a 67 yellow on yellow convertible.  When I acquired the car 
(1987) the original "Action Line 6" was as tired as the paint and 
interior finish.  The car was so slow and ugly we called it the "Banana 
Slug" and the "Gutless Cutlass".  I eventually replaced the drivetrain 
with a 350/TH350 from a '70 Cutlass.  The interior is still in the early 
stages of rehabilitation (ie new parts on a shelf, car in a million 
pieces).  Since this will never be a show car resoration, I thought 
about changing the interior and exterior colors to something more 
traditional.  It was hard to imagine how the yellow on yellow would look 
in a finished state.  As a matter of convenience, I decided to go with 
the original yellow on yellow scheme, so I am pleasantly surprised to 
hear from list members how much they like the look  I hope mine turns 
out as well as Ernie's.

Ernie Johnson wrote:

>Hi Everyone
>
>I may not qualify as "the longest owned Olds" on this list but my 442 and I
>have had quite a relationship with my 442.
>
>First to introduce myself,  I've been a member of this list for almost since
>its beginning.  In the early days I used the name "Elephant engine Ernie"
>from the 70's 442 advertising as a name and participated fairly actively.
>In the past few years I switched to the digest and have joined in very
>rarely.  This list is a wonderful resource with an amazing amount of Olds
>knowledge available.
>
>Now to the Olds relationship.  Sometime in the spring of 1967 a black 442
>hardtop coupe arrived at the dealership where I was working as an mechanic.
>This car was beautiful, black with a yellow pin stripe and a very unusual
>bright yellow vinyl interior!  In 1967 Olds had a convertible option that
>consisted of a bright yellow exterior and vinyl interior.  It was a really
>striking car and our dealership had sold a couple of these.  The yellow
>interior was added as an option part way thru the model year for black cars,
>but my car is the only one that I have ever seen equipped this way in all
>these years.
>
>When this car arrived I just had to "set it up"!  My boss liked me because I
>was an enthusiastic young mechanic who would take on all the "new"
>technology that the older mechanics shunned (like automatic temperature
>control A/C).  As a reward for my enthusiasm, whenever any new neat car came
>in I was allowed to "set it up" which include among other things a road
>test.  And that's how this 4 speed little coupe and I started our
>relationship.
>
>The car was sold on May 31 1967 to a regular customer, a fellow a few years
>older than I, that brought it back to me for its regular servicing.  (Most
>of the 442 and W-31 customers requested me because the service department
>for the most part consisted of people used to the needs of Cadillac and full
>sized Olds customers and regarded the performance folk as a minor irritant.
>I was really into the performance type of car and again my boss was pleased
>and encouraged my relationship with these folk because he looked at these
>new customers as plus business).
>
>Early 1969 this customer traded the car in on a new 88 and on March 26, 1969
>the car became mine.  For four years it was my primary car (excluding
>"winter-beaters") and saw me through countless street races, some legitimate
>1/4 & 1/8 mile campaigns, a marriage (still have that wife too) and all sort
>of adventures.  In 1973 the car had a little over 100,000 miles on it and I
>figured it was time to trade.  Trouble was, I couldn't find anything I liked
>as much to replace it!  So I bought a new Cutlass and kept the 442 as sort
>of a Sunday driver.
>After that new Cutlass I was fortunate enough to have a job for many years
>that allowed me my choice of Oldsmobiles and some Cadillacs for my personal
>use as a job benefit so the car retained its status as a Sunday toy through
>all these years.
>
>We drove the car out to Lansing's 100th party and today it is still sitting
>in its honored spot in my garage.  What is really neat about this little
>story is,, about six or seven years ago the original owner looked me up and
>offered me a deal.  All his ownership paper work for a ride!
>
>So now I have the warranty "Protect-a-plate" in my name (the car had a five
>year warranty and when I bought the car the warranty was transferred to me),
>his ownership papers, and mine, and the car.
>
>Thanks for listening.
>
>Ernie Johnson
>67-442
>50-88
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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