
oldsmobile-digest      Thursday, April 29 2004      Volume 01 : Number 4872



Re: Overhaulin'
Re: Overhaulin'
RE: Overhaulin'
RE: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????
Re: sending unit
RE: Overhaulin'
Re: Lifter noise
Re: Overhaulin'
Re: Paintless Dent Repair
Re: Last Olds!!!!!
Re: sending unit
Re: Last Olds!!!!!
Re: Paintless Debt Removal
Fw: [Oldsmobile Cutlass Owners Club] Hurst Hatches
RE: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????
RE: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????
RE: Paintless Dent Repair
gas tank sending unit
Re: Oh, the Humility...
1970 right hand mirror
Re: Last Olds!!!!!
<sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: 1970 right hand mirror
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
RE: Paintless Dent Repair
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: 1970 right hand mirror
Re: Paintless Dent Removal
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
RE: urgent request: AC Delco fuel pump part #
TH200C torque converter
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP
Re: Paintless Dent Repair

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:14:13 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Overhaulin'

Is the show that makes you think your car got re-poed?
Pat Swanton
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Jon442@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Overhaulin'


> I thought the Chebby turned out awesome, but I know what you're saying. It
> might almost feel as if you had been violated in some way, like getting
your
> house broken into. At least it looks like Foose & Co. do quality work,
unlike
> some of the other shows I have seen. I'm looking forward to see the Elky
next
> week.
>
> Jon Wessel
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:22:10 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Overhaulin'

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In a message dated 4/28/2004 4:18:51 PM Central Standard Time, 
swannys78@adelphia.net writes:
Is the show that makes you think your car got re-poed?
They have some kind of excuse for taking your car. One episode, they took a 
kid's truck, telling him it had been impounded because of too many parking 
tickets. The Chevelle they took under the ruse of using it in a TV commercial for 
a new kind of wax.

Jon Wessel

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:27:08 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Overhaulin'

I've actually been thinking about sending them pictures of my El Camino.


- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of swanny
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:14 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Overhaulin'

Is the show that makes you think your car got re-poed?
Pat Swanton
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Jon442@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Overhaulin'


> I thought the Chebby turned out awesome, but I know what you're saying. It
> might almost feel as if you had been violated in some way, like getting
your
> house broken into. At least it looks like Foose & Co. do quality work,
unlike
> some of the other shows I have seen. I'm looking forward to see the Elky
next
> week.
>
> Jon Wessel
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:26:28 -0400
From: james.zito@ps.ge.com
Subject: RE: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????

>From Steve H
Anybody ever hear of "CDP" OLDSMOBILE PERFORMANCE ENGINES in Columbia,
Connecticut?? Web site's at
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatalog/oldsmobilengines.html

Not sure I'd trust anybody charging big bucks like that and only giving me a
POS Fram oil filter.......

Jim
69 conv 442 
will never have fram again

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:40:59 -0400
From: james.zito@ps.ge.com
Subject: Re: sending unit

  Hey Mike,
   did you try www.InLineTube.com   ???
john orr

John,

After having a bad experience with inline a$$holes I would never buy
anything from them again.  In fact I would hire a machine shop and pay 3x
the cost if there was something that they were the only available source
for.  I know that there are others on this list that would agree with me.
They are a lying bunch of scum suckers, and I will elaborate if you would
like me to with exactly what they did to me.

Jim
69 442 conv

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:44:23 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Overhaulin'

I think you're just buying into a little bit of show business there. They
couldn't do it w/o the owner's permission unless they wanted to get sued by
the owner and face criminal charges for auto theft.


- -----Original Message-----

They have some kind of excuse for taking your car. One episode, they took a
kid's truck, telling him it had been impounded because of too many parking
tickets. The Chevelle they took under the ruse of using it in a TV
commercial for a new kind of wax.

Jon Wessel

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:31:28 -0400
From: "Ernie Johnson" <bigej@pivot.net>
Subject: Re: Lifter noise

I have a problem. I have a 1950 Olds  V8. Since my last oil change it has
developed a lifter noise. Is there an oil additive or something that will
cure
this problem short of pulling the engine down.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The early Olds Rockets had an oiling problem in the rocker area and lots of
wear is not unusual in the rocker and shaft area.
You could try another oil change with a quart of transmission fluid in place
of one quart of oil and run the car for a 100 miles or so, but I really
doubt that a lifter is causing the noise.
Pull the rocker covers and remove the rocker arm assembly (very easy) and
carefully check the rockers for wear.  Typically they will wear into the
shaft, and where the valve stem contacts them.  Also it is likely that the
pushrods will be worn (the top will be almost like a pencil tip) into the
rockers.
The only cure is to replace the worn parts and make sure all the oil
passages are clear.  Those engines get very little oil up top (although with
today's lubricants and clean passages you shouldn't hasve any trouble) and
were typically sludged up real good which made the problem even worse.

Ernie Johnson
50-88
67-442

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:34:59 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Overhaulin'

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The Chevelle (3rd episode) was taken with the owner's permission. The truck 
in the first episode was not. Maybe they learned something.

Jon Wessel

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:41:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Amadei <stephen@amadei.com>
Subject: Re: Paintless Dent Repair

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 HURSTOLDZ@aol.com wrote:

> I have a great friend that owns a Paintless Dent business.  I have had

Hmmm... I do Paintless Dent Repair... when I get done pounding the panel,
all the paint is gone!  ;-)

> I would want to see him actually remove a debt from someone elses car
> BEFORE you let him do yours.  Experience in Paintless Dent removal  will

After he removes the debt from your car, I need him to remove the debt
from mine... that car payment is killing me.  ;-)

Sorry, Vinny, I had a good chuckle at your expensive, and needed to share.
;-)

					----Steve
Stephen Amadei
Dandy.NET!  CTO/CSO
Atlantic City, NJ

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:27:40 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Last Olds!!!!!

Your Welcome John.....hopefully they will have a real good story tomorrow
and Friday! So far I wasnt impressed with the coverage...but should have
known...knowing the State Journal...shitty local paper!

Wish I could be there but have prior plans that I just cant get out
of.....Wish I could thou! Would love to take my Cutty down there as a
fairwell to Olds......

But all of us here and on other lists and that have Olds...will Always keep
Olds alive!

I'm just wondering how hard it will be to get parts and how costly it will
be to get parts now!!

Tami

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:34:29 -0400
From: "John Orr" <olds330@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: sending unit

   okay then, I guess we got Jims point of view, you can always have The
General make you one... he did a great job with one he sent me to try out
for him... don't know what he would charge, you can always ask him.
john
67 cutlass supreme

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:37:46 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Last Olds!!!!!

Thats WAY kewl Joe....post the link when you get it and its in the paper!
Would love to see it!!!

Tami

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:40:00 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paintless Debt Removal

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Hey Steve

HAHAH    Man  I need some debt removal!!!

Matter o fact  I have my 22' Grady White on Ebay   

Vinny

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:41:03 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Fw: [Oldsmobile Cutlass Owners Club] Hurst Hatches

  can any one help him out
  ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "imorfitt" <imorfitt@yahoo.com>
  To: <oldsmobilecutlassownersclub@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:37 PM
  Subject: [Oldsmobile Cutlass Owners Club] Hurst Hatches


  Hey All!

  I still don't understand how I did it, but I managed to SHATTER the
  drivers' side hatch on my '76 Salon.  I am at a loss on how to
  replace it...has anyone else had this experience?  I haven't called
  any local glass shops yet, I'm hoping for a miracle I guess.  I will
  appreciate any help you can give me,  THANKS!

  Ivan



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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:54:07 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: RE: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????

At 05:26 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>>From Steve H
>Anybody ever hear of "CDP" OLDSMOBILE PERFORMANCE ENGINES in Columbia,
>Connecticut?? Web site's at
>http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatalog/oldsmobilengines.html
>
>Not sure I'd trust anybody charging big bucks like that and only giving me a
>POS Fram oil filter.......

After looking over their site and seeing that almost every make engine is
listed the same way, I doubt seriously these people really know Olds
engines, anyhow. Probly use Moneydullah's book and toss in his crap without
asking you.

SteveH

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:54:07 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: RE: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????

At 05:26 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>>From Steve H
>Anybody ever hear of "CDP" OLDSMOBILE PERFORMANCE ENGINES in Columbia,
>Connecticut?? Web site's at
>http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatalog/oldsmobilengines.html
>
>Not sure I'd trust anybody charging big bucks like that and only giving me a
>POS Fram oil filter.......

After looking over their site and seeing that almost every make engine is
listed the same way, I doubt seriously these people really know Olds
engines, anyhow. Probly use Moneydullah's book and toss in his crap without
asking you.

SteveH

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:50:11 -0700
From: "Jeff and Sherie Stanish" <stanishj@svpal.org>
Subject: RE: Paintless Dent Repair

We had a dent about the size of a dollar coin removed from my otherwise
perfect 1984 98 (it was supposed to be repaired before the paint guys
painted it, but somehow missed it!).  Unless you know just where to look,
and the light is just right, you can't tell the difference.  This was our
first experience with this type of dent removal.  A friend in the Nor-Cal
Olds Club suggested it.  It was a chain establishment, too.  I waited while
they did it, and it didn't take long.  Now my big, boaty car looks great!
(At least on the outside--the upholstery is quite another thing!)

Sherie Stanish
Campbell CA

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of kc
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:25 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Paintless Dent Repair


Hello

I've found this mailing list to be extremely informative, although my car
doesn't come close to being the vintage or classic status of the vehicles
usually discussed here (it's a 1995 Cutlass Supreme convertible).

However, I was wondering if I could tap into your collective experience. I'd
like to know if any of you have had any experience having paintless dent
repairs made. If so, were you happy with the results? The above mentioned
car has a few dents and dings that I would like to have fixed.

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:10:53 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: gas tank sending unit

I get my sending units from old gas tanks.  sometimes the length or 
orientation is wrong, a compression fitting on the tube can line 
things up like the original.  I also rework the arm so you can 
actually believe what the gauge says all the time.  Bruce Roe

28 Apr 2004  "Mike Morrissey" <oxfarm@oregontrail.net> writes:

>     I'm having a hard time finding a sender that is both affordable 
> and available. One source wanted $240, and Year One wants 
> $159, while Brothers is only $149.99... I also found a coupla 
> places that sell 'em for $59, but they're backordered.

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:36:22 -0500
From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Oh, the Humility...

What really clinches it for me is the custom installation of the 4x10s  
on the rear deck - NOT. All that time and effort, and they just set the  
speakers on the package tray?
I'd really love to see the quality of the work on the extended control  
arms needed to fit those ridiculous rims. You know, I'd actually admire  
the work if they'd actually fit the wheels inside the fenders. *That*  
would be custom!

krw

On Apr 28, 2004, at 4:06 PM, oldsmobile-digest wrote:

> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:06:05 -0400
> From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Oh, the Humility...
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:14:10 -0700
> From: "Karl Sup" <droldslives@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Oh, the Humility...
>
> Why, oh why, must people put Chevy engines in perfectly good 1984  
> Cutlasses?
> And they wonder why drugs and alcohol impair reason? :-) Check it  
> out...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> ViewItem&rd=1&item=2475938394&category=6405
>
> If the link doesn't work, it's EBay Item 2475938394
>
> Karl Sup
> Mesa, AZ
> ===========
> That's the second most ridiculous use of a Cutlass I have ever seen.
> Stylin'... I guess. Rides... like shit. Oh, and a CHEVY 350 engine,  
> gosh
> however did they find one of THEM? Whew! That's hella-rare! That must  
> put
> out over 400 HP [smaller Type C horses, though].  Nice end-of-era Olds  
> logos
> in the rear seat upholstery. Now, where's the early 1900's fancy crest  
> Olds
> Logo? Any rockets? Blowtie emblem under the hood? Proud of that? Oy.
> - -----------------------
> Chris Witt
> 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> Lansing MI 48911
On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...

Kevin Wright                                          
krwright@sbcglobal.net
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                              
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/70Olds.html

'71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans:  
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/71_cutlass.html

Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31!  
And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :)
...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be  
parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:45:36 EDT
From: Roncutlass@aol.com
Subject: 1970 right hand mirror

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OK, everyone is asking me to send them any info that I might get.  Someone 
out there must have dual mirrors, can you just measure both and give us the 
distance from the front of the door to the leading edge of the mirror.  Thanks 
very much.    Ron

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:08:05 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Last Olds!!!!!

>From the Lansing State Journal article:

"The world's largest automaker decided in December 2000 to get rid of the
Oldsmobile brand."


That says it all, especially the "get rid of" part!

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:15:29 -0700
From: "Karl Sup" <droldslives@hotmail.com>
Subject: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

I think we should all coordinate a time tomorrow... drive up to the nearest 
Saab dealer in our Oldsmobiles and honk our horns for an hour. :-) Bring 
liberal amounts of 'GM SUCKS' signs.

Karl Sup
Mesa, AZ

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:25:50 -0700
From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: 1970 right hand mirror

Ron, I measured both the C/S with a single chrome mirror and the 442 with 
the dual sport mirrors. I measured from the farthest edge forward that you 
can find on the door. That edge is on a round spot, about an inch lower 
than where the mirror sits. You will know what I mean if you look at the door.

11 3/8" For the lh chrome mirror on the cutlass
10 1/2" For the lh sport mirror on the 442
10 5/8" For the rh sport mirror on the 442 (I think the uncertainty may 
well be 1/8")

What does this mean? 70 and 71 *should* be the same. The holes are probably 
in the same spot between the chrome and the sport mirrors. I would think 
that the difference in measured length to the leading edge of the mirror 
stems from the different shape of the mirror base.

So, your main question really is, if the mirror to the RH side is 
positioned further forward or backward. It sure looks like on the sport 
mirrors that's not the case and it *should* therefore not be the case on 
the chrome mirrors either. I would put my mirror symmetric to the driver's 
side.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you need any more measurements!

George

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:26:36 -0700
From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

In my book, the last olds was made in 72, and if not then, it was in 87 
(?), when the last RWD car left the line.

George

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:40:53 -0700
From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: Paintless Dent Repair

So, does this work on the typical 'parking lot' door dings that you get 
from ruthless drivers slamming their door into the side of your car? I have 
about 3 dings in each of my doors from this. The dents are not very deep, 
there is no paint cracking but the dent is not round, rather than a groove, 
reflecting the shape of the door that created it ... If you look at it from 
the side at an angle it is very obvious and very annoying.

Where did you take your's in Campbell, Sherie?

Cheers, George

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:40:06 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Jay Britt <jbritt67@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

Since Grand Am's will be rolling down the same assembly line as the last Olds, maybe we should go to the closest Pontiac dealership instead.

- -----Original Message-----
I think we should all coordinate a time tomorrow... drive up to the nearest 
Saab dealer in our Oldsmobiles and honk our horns for an hour. :-) Bring 
liberal amounts of 'GM SUCKS' signs.

Karl Sup
Mesa, AZ

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:46:55 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

totaly agree
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl Sup" <droldslives@hotmail.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:15 AM
Subject: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP


> I think we should all coordinate a time tomorrow... drive up to the nearest
> Saab dealer in our Oldsmobiles and honk our horns for an hour. :-) Bring
> liberal amounts of 'GM SUCKS' signs.
>
> Karl Sup
> Mesa, AZ
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:46:26 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

insted  we just should tel genaral motors to stick up there a--.
the company makes no sense, first  the dump the caprice send ford more biz. then dump olds the oldes
us car mfg. probably as a wash for there loss in the space program. then dump the f body once again
saying buy a corvette or a mustang. mustang is cheaper and not plastic. guess gm will be getting a
thank you card from ford. now the gto is comeing back in a front wheel drive version if im correct .
i just ignor genarl morons any more.
just my 2 cents
ron
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From: "Jay Britt" <jbritt67@mindspring.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP


> Since Grand Am's will be rolling down the same assembly line as the last Olds, maybe we should go
to the closest Pontiac dealership instead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> I think we should all coordinate a time tomorrow... drive up to the nearest
> Saab dealer in our Oldsmobiles and honk our horns for an hour. :-) Bring
> liberal amounts of 'GM SUCKS' signs.
>
> Karl Sup
> Mesa, AZ
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:16:34 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

Saab, they got thier noses so far in the air, they wouldn't even know why we
are doing it. SAAB, anybody know the acronym for that?
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Britt" <jbritt67@mindspring.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP


> Since Grand Am's will be rolling down the same assembly line as the last
Olds, maybe we should go to the closest Pontiac dealership instead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> I think we should all coordinate a time tomorrow... drive up to the
nearest
> Saab dealer in our Oldsmobiles and honk our horns for an hour. :-) Bring
> liberal amounts of 'GM SUCKS' signs.
>
> Karl Sup
> Mesa, AZ
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:18:15 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

At Thursday, 29 April 2004, you wrote:

>In my book, the last olds was made in 72, and if not then, 
>it was in 87 (?), when the last RWD car left the line.
>
>George

BZZZTTTTT... last RWD Olds of the non-overinflated jellybean style 
was 1990 with the Custom Cruiser. Last RWD passenger car of ordinary 
proportions was the 1988 Cutlass Supreme Custom Brougham. Both of 
these had V8s (although the wimpy corporate-Olds wimpy 307).

I has no idea of the '90s jellybeans like Aurora, Alero, whatever 
those things were. And don't want to.

SteveH



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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:25:08 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: 1970 right hand mirror

Ron, Both of my '78s from the body line at the beginning of the door to the
base of the 'sport' mirror is 11.5 inches. Hope this helps.
Pat Swanton
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Roncutlass@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:45 PM
Subject: 1970 right hand mirror


> OK, everyone is asking me to send them any info that I might get.  Someone
> out there must have dual mirrors, can you just measure both and give us
the
> distance from the front of the door to the leading edge of the mirror.
Thanks
> very much.    Ron
>

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:23:35 EDT
From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paintless Dent Removal

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In a message dated 4/28/04 2:09:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
clemke@email.toast.net
 writes:

> I've found this mailing list to be extremely informative, although my car
> doesn't come close to being the vintage or classic status of the vehicles
> usually discussed here (it's a 1995 Cutlass Supreme convertible).
> 
> However, I was wondering if I could tap into your collective experience. I'd
> like to know if any of you have had any experience having paintless dent
> repairs made. If so, were you happy with the results? The above mentioned
> car has a few dents and dings that I would like to have fixed.

Kenn,
      I have had a couple of cars and trucks fixed in this manner and have 
enjoyed great success every time.  I found my paintless dent removal guy at the 
local car dealership, and waited while he performed his magic.  I actually 
watched him take a few dents out of a car sitting right on the lot.  You couldn't 
tell there was ever a dent when he was finished!  He did the same thing to my 
vehicles.  A neighbor had a guy take a dent out caused by his irate wife who 
kicked both doors in on his Chevy pickup.  They were both huge and came out 
with no problems.  So look around at the local car dealerships and find someone 
that will let you watch them work.  I've found that it also helps lower the 
final bill if you offer to pay cash with no paperwork.
Good luck,
Steve D

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:15:22 -0400
From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

> In my book, the last olds was made in 72, and if not then, it was in 87
> (?), when the last RWD car left the line.

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The last Olds V8 RWD car was built in 1990, not 1987.  Remember the last of
the square style Custom Cruiser wagons?

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:24:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Brooks <deaconblue1969@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

I was told by the product manager for the Intrigue
that Oldsmobile's Engineering Department was disbanded
in 1977.  To me, that would date the demise of a great
marque - it is only marketing from that point on.

Bill

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:45:00 -0500
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: urgent request: AC Delco fuel pump part #

Chris,

More than likely, the "exact" part you need is no longer being made.  You 
will probably end up using the listing for the 70 (and any other year) that 
has the return line.  The last time I replaced my fuel pump (not an AC) we 
found limited choices and it came down to two pump choices.  One with a 
return line and one without, for all Olds V8's.  AC may offer more options, 
but then again.......

Glad to hear things are moving along with the W-31.  I may get back to work 
on the Vista some day if Mike ever gets his stuff out of the way.  Of course 
it's house repair season, so who knows.

Keep us posted on the W-31 progress.



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:58:58 -0400
From: Jim Donoghue <jim@smithy.com>
Subject: TH200C torque converter

The torque converter in my olds diesel is making noise during no-load
conditions when in gear. The noise is loudest when the car is warm and
you're coasting in town (25mph or so). Where does one obtain a new or
rebuilt torque converter from? Is the stall speed of the diesel torque
converter the same as the gas one?

Other than the noise, the car seems to drive fine. But, last time this
happened, the trans died unexpectedly, and I was left with a torque
converter full of metal shavings. I'd like to repair it before this
happens and the transmission is ruined.

Thanks for your help.

Jim

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:07:45 +0000
From: 62oldsfan@comcast.net
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

> 
> I was told by the product manager for the Intrigue
> that Oldsmobile's Engineering Department was disbanded
> in 1977.  

Probably as a reward for coming up those great 5.7 Diesel engines...

Paul

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:11:02 +0000
From: 62oldsfan@comcast.net
Subject: Re: <sniff> Oldsmobile RIP

> The last Olds V8 RWD car was built in 1990, not 1987.  Remember the last of
> the square style Custom Cruiser wagons?

So, the Custom C@prices last built in '92 don't count?

Paul

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:35:34 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paintless Dent Repair

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In a message dated 4/29/2004 3:45:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net writes:
So, does this work on the typical 'parking lot' door dings that you get 
from ruthless drivers slamming their door into the side of your car? I have 
about 3 dings in each of my doors from this
That is exactly what it is for!

Vinny

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