
oldsmobile-digest       Friday, April 16 2004       Volume 01 : Number 4857



Re: Anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport minivan?
Rocket Action Oldsmobile
Toro Pickup on Evil Site
new items in today
Serious 403 half built for $2000
Power valve played a role
Re: "68 Horn
Re: "68 Horn
Re: Looking for 66 4-barrel air cleaner base
Re: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s and fancy bumpers
Re: Holley Power Valves
answers arriving long before the question
Re: Toro Pickup on Evil Site
Re: 68 400 stock rings
Re: Power valve played a role
Re: 65 Cutlass swap2
Re: Toro Pickup on Evil Site
FW: Urgent Response. - Please, how can I help you? 
previous email - scamming the scammers
RE: "68 Horn
RE: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s/4-speed benches
Re: "68 Horn
Re: Holley Power Valves
RE: answers arriving long before the question
all 67 442's are....
RE: answers arriving long before the question
RE: Toro Pickup on Evil Site
Re: Toro Pickup on Evil Site
Re: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s/4-speed benches
Re: "68 Horn
Re: 68 400 stock rings

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:06:54 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Anyone done a water pump on a '96 Silhouette/Lumina/Trans Sport minivan?

you see the ba$tards at gm engineering gave you something easy now try to change the plugs. 
that takes a lot of patients and a twisted sense of humor
ron. 
> >it's not a a bad one to do remove belt guard then belt remove pulley
> >and the retaining bolts notice its position since the new one will only
> >line up in the correctly clocked position
> 
> Mission accomplished! Had only one Warner Brothers-type moment, like when 
> Wile E. Coyote runs through a batch of Acme quick-drying cement and freezes 
> in mid-stride...? See below...
> 
> Disassembly went okay and nothing was seized up, except for a brief period 
> of hammering on the pulley before it would let go of the pump pulley hub. 
> Was able to get away with only a partial drain of the cooling system by 
> removing the heater hose at the pump connections and draining it into a 
> bucket, after which a bit more gooshed out when the pump came off, but not a 
> horrendous amount, all recovered and replaced later.
> 
> Per Ron's instructions, I made sure to mark the position of the old pump 
> before removing it. I found afterwards when looking at it on the workbench 

> that there's a little triangular arrow cast into it to mark the top, 
> 12-o'clock position, and the aftermarket replacement (GMB brand in 
> PartsMaster box) had the same arrow, which made things a little easier.
> 
> Things got interesting with the gasket. Long period of careful scraping was 
> required to get the old gasket off, and it's real easy to scrape a nice 
> smooth finish _on_ the old gasket remnants, rather than scrape a nice smooth 
> finish by _removing_ the old gasket remnants. Running a finger over it is 
> not the answer; a smooth finish is not necessarily a level one. You have to 
> really squint at it with a good shop light to see the black areas where the 
> gasket leftovers remain.
> 
> So then I made sure that I knew how to align the new gasket before gooping 
> it up with KW Copper Coat (great stuff). Gooped it carefully on both sides, 
> did the new pump as well, did the sealing surface on the block, then looked 
> back at the gasket, and couldn't remember which side was facing up. Aaargh. 

> Tense couple of minutes followed as Yrs Truly frantically tried every 
> orientation of gasket on pump, trying to get all holes lined up on the 
> otherwise-perfectly-circular gasket, as the Copper Coat relentlessly set 
> itself up, getting stickier and stickier by the second...
> 
> Got it at last! The audience applauds...
> 
> Everything buttoned up nicely after that, no bolts were dropped into 
> important places, and I was able to hit the car wash @10:30 p.m. for a 
> long-overdue engine cleaning, so everything's nice and shiny once again, 
> with no leaks anywhere. Thanks to everyone on- and off-line for their help.
> 
> -- Andy
> 
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:27:43 -0500
From: "Doug Newman" <newmand@oldsgmail.com>
Subject: Rocket Action Oldsmobile

>From Mike Rothe on the G-body list.  Good tune...


Doug Newman                  1987 442              OCA # 30311
Columbus, MS                    

http://store.oldsgmail.com                             The Store    
http://newmand.oldsgmail.com                       My Home Page  

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-oldsgmail@spots.ab.ca [mailto:owner-oldsgmail@spots.ab.ca]
On Behalf Of hurstman@bellsouth.net
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:41 AM
To: oldsgmail@spots.ab.ca
Subject: Free download: Rocket action oldsmobile

I was clowning around on the web and found a song I'd never heard of
before (some of you may have, sorry if I'm late on this). It's performed
by Larry Heagle on his "Irish Hearts" CD. The name of the song is Rocket
Action Oldsmobile.

It's a bluesy-type of song about his '65 98 with a 425, and it's kinda
neat. I like how he says "If you give me 40 acres, I can turn on a
dime". Here's a snippet of the lyrics:

"She burns 92 octane
premium gas.
There ain't nothin' on the road,
that I can't pass.
...I love the way that I feel
in that Rocket Action Oldsmobile."

You can download it for free at his website:
http://larryheagle.com/download.htm
(Real Media only, though)

Reminder: OldsGmail.com does not condone illegal downloading or use, but
this is from Larry's direct website and he offers it for free download.

Just passin' it along.
Mike Rothe

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:36:27 -0400
From: "Jay Britt" <jbritt67@mindspring.com>
Subject: Toro Pickup on Evil Site

Here's something to get us off the '67 C/S 442 thread.... Anyone seen this
conversion yet?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=247370617
0

Check out the cool 70's bathroom rug carpeting inside.... The seller claims
it might have been owned by "the most famous daredevil of the 70's..". Could
that be the other Evil?.


Jay Britt
OCA#29460
67 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe
99 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab
http://jbritt67.home.mindspring.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:41:27 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: new items in today

"R" intake, big block, 1970 - 72 or so, Pre-EGR, seeking $40 and shipping
more oil filter mounts, grubby, $5 seems fair.
CARB from Buick Turbo V6, with [bent] air intake adapter
CARB, electronic QJet, # not known yet, core, $20, might be good to use, 
it's pretty
Oil pan, big block, cosmetically imperfect. $20.
Brackets for PS pump from era with press-on 2-groove pulley [smog, maybe 68+ 
same] $10

LOTS more 1966 442 stuff on ebay, dash main plastic part, etc.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=*the*rocketscientist&since=30&sort=8&rows=25
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:49:49 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Serious 403 half built for $2000

Lansing man has this motor
$4000 in reciepts
Arias flat top pistons
rebuilt 4A heads
forged crank
sweet cam
half assembled, take his loss, pay half what he did at $2000 the lot.
Extra heads, Edelbrock Performer intake [needs cleaning]
2 extra 403 stock cranks too
extra un-rebuilt 4A heads too.

- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:15:40 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Power valve played a role

List:
Thankyou to all that gave me advice!
I finally got the car running.
I took the plugs out after I put in the module and let the engine evaporate
all the gas in the cylynders. Cleaned out all the plugs with the air gun.
after about 2 hrs. of breathing clean air into the cylinders she fired right
up. Now it is running so rich that the exhaust is making my eyes water. Time
to rebuild the carb. I do believe that the module had a lot to do with it
getting a good spark.
Pat Swanton.

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:23:03 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: "68 Horn

Thanks Daniel for all the help.....I havent had time to mess with the horn
yet but will let ya know what I find out!!

I got the horn relay from Advanced Auto...got the washer pump from
NAPA...but I did find out that the motor had been updated to a newer model.
Still works fine...might not be correct but its not a show car yet!!

Tami

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:31:16 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: "68 Horn

Thanks Ron for all the info.....I'll be checking it out in a bit...had to
check emails to see what needed to be done....LOL

Tami

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:44:37 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for 66 4-barrel air cleaner base

That's because a '65 uses a Rochester 4GC 4-barrel that has about a 4 1/2"
diameter air horn and the '66 uses a Q-jet with its Holley size 5 1/8" air
horn. All Carter/Edelbrock AFBs are now 5 1/8", but back in the '60s, there
were both 4 1/2" and 5 1/8" air horn AFBs. The AFB on a 300HP 327 Chevy and
the dual quads on a 425HP Chevy 409 and a Pontiac 421 Super Duty were 4 1/2"
air horn. The AFBs on a single quad 400HP 409 and the dual quads on a MOPAR
413/426 crossram Ramcharger were 5 1/8" with the MOPAR AFBs commonly
referred to as "E" series AFBs and the single 400HP 409 AFB referred to as a
"D" series. The carb on a 300HP 327 Chevy was referred to as a "C" series.
"E" series AFBs were the preferred dual quad set up of choice by most racers
using AFBs.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Penello" <albert@albertpenello.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: Looking for 66 4-barrel air cleaner base


> Looking for a 66 Olds Cutlass/442 air cleaner base for a 4-barrel car. I
> guess my dad, back in the day, needed to use a 66 air cleaner base so it
> would fit a Holley carb. Apparently the 65 base is to small but the 66
base
> works (?) I need a replacement. Condition doesn't matter so long as it's
> functional.
>
> Please e-mail me at albert@albertpenello.com
>
> Thanks!
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:32:48 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s and fancy bumpers

John,

It was back in Missoura in 1967. My 18 year old friend ordered the car from
Ketchum Olds in Independence, MO, and had great fun with her for 6 months,
eating a lot of the competition alive on the strip, before he was drafted.
He didn't come back from Viet Nam. His parents sold the car. I have no idea
where she went.

His car also had a bench seat, with the shifter handle curved forward
correctly to clear the bench seat from the factory. Now before anyone jumps
out of their chair, I drove 2 different brand new 442s that had 4-speeds and
bench seats.

The first was also from Ketchum Olds. Those of you who have read my written
history of Thunder know that I fell in love with the '64 Olds A-body body
style when I first saw it at the national Olds new car announcement show at
the Music Hall in Kansas City in the early Fall of '63. Later, by accident,
I made friends with a young salesman at Ketchum Olds. In mid-Spring of '64,
he called me one day to come by Ketchum and test drive his new demo. She was
a '64 442 in a 2-door F-85 sedan body, no chrome, target red outside with
red interior, black rubber floor covering, and a bench front seat. She
weighed exactly 3200 pounds and ran like a F-104 Starfighter. That's also
exactly the reason I insisted that I get Thunder down to 3200 pounds,
considering all of the mods that added weight to her.

Next year in '65, the last year of operation of the former Howard-Willey
Chev-Olds, now Kahan Chev-Olds, as an Olds dealership, Kahan received a '65
442 on a stock order that was identical to that '64 I test drove except for
the 400 engine, 2-tone exterior of target red bottom and white top, and
black interior. Again, the 4-speed shifter was perfectly curved to go over
the bench seat. Homer Yount, the new car get-ready man, and I thoroughly
"tested" that 442. She outperformed every single 396 Chevelle, 427 Impala,
and 427 'vette we had seen through Kahan.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:53 AM
Subject: RE: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s and fancy bumpers


> Who is this individual? Where is this car?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Then how did an individual in 1967 buy something else? That something else
> was a bare-bones 442 in a 2-door F-85, which was rolled off the car
> transporter from whatever GM plant or railroad yard. The lightest body,
with
> no options and deletes, and power to sell.
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:39:02 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Holley Power Valves

> for the guys running holley they work well and i know you swear by them
but holley does allow alot of tuneing  for application's. problem is most
guys have no clue what pump cams,springs ect to fine tune it with. which
creats a bigger problem.


That's why I will only mess with Holley double pumpers, for they give far
less trouble than the vacuum controlled secondary Holleys. I won't swear by
Thunder's 850 DP, because I mostly swear at it, particularly when the
accelerator pump diaphragms leak. I can't wait until I can put the dual quad
AFBs on her, which I should have done 25 years ago.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:43:16 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: answers arriving long before the question

List,

I anyone have any problems receiving answers long before receiving the
question? Today, it seems really bad from chebuto.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:50:22 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Toro Pickup on Evil Site

So who's going to tell this character it's not Olds factory but some custom
car shop conversion? Looks like it might be well done, but not factory, no
matter who owned it.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Britt" <jbritt67@mindspring.com>
To: "Oldsmobile List (E-mail)" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:36 PM
Subject: Toro Pickup on Evil Site


> Here's something to get us off the '67 C/S 442 thread.... Anyone seen this
> conversion yet?
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=247370617
> 0
>
> Check out the cool 70's bathroom rug carpeting inside.... The seller
claims
> it might have been owned by "the most famous daredevil of the 70's..".
Could
> that be the other Evil?.
>
>
> Jay Britt
> OCA#29460
> 67 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe
> 99 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab
> http://jbritt67.home.mindspring.com
>
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:04:22 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 68 400 stock rings

Sealed Power ring set #E-298X. Any auto parts store should be able to get
them. Info is out of the 2000 Sealed Power ring catalog. Also, your standard
bore is 3.8700". For a 3.8750" bore, Sealed Power shows 6 different ring
sets that will fit your pistons and standard bore. Yes, they would be
0.0050" over, but that's an easy file fit for only 5 thousands.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "RobV" <rv@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 7:14 AM
Subject: 68 400 stock rings


> Good morning folks,
>
> I am having trouble finding the stock rings for a 68 400 with no
> overbore/stock bores.  Advanced Auto seems to be providing rings that are
> too large, may be 30 over rings.  Any suggestions on where I can order the
> correct stock rings?
>
> Thanks!
> Rob
>
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:10:17 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Power valve played a role

Okay, if the module was down on spark output and the carb was flooding, no
start. That makes sense.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:15 PM
Subject: Power valve played a role


> List:
> Thankyou to all that gave me advice!
> I finally got the car running.
> I took the plugs out after I put in the module and let the engine
evaporate
> all the gas in the cylynders. Cleaned out all the plugs with the air gun.
> after about 2 hrs. of breathing clean air into the cylinders she fired
right
> up. Now it is running so rich that the exhaust is making my eyes water.
Time
> to rebuild the carb. I do believe that the module had a lot to do with it
> getting a good spark.
> Pat Swanton.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:20:29 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 65 Cutlass swap2

Technically, if you swap the entire powertrain and wiring, it should work.
Wiring because a Chevy starter is on the other side from an Olds, as an
example. On the wiring, you can play it by ear, along with other lines and
hoses. You *will* need some custom work on the radiator hoses. However, the
big thing is the steel engine mounting pads on the frame. A '72 A-body frame
is a little different from a '65 A-body frame. The engine pads may be a
direct swap, but there could be some differences. That I'm not sure of.
Finally, the '64-'65 engine compartment is a little shorter than '66 and
later. Watch out for fan blade to radiator interference when you put the '72
stuff into the '65. The '72 radiator will not fit the '65, in any way,
shape, or form. You'll have to use the '65 radiator. Watch out for a
difference in driveshaft length and/or transmission yoke.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "JEFFREY LISLE" <jeffslisle@yahoo.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: 65 Cutlass swap2


> I am in the USAF in Japan with my '65 Cutlass that has an original 330
wich has seen better days and could really use a re-build, but unfortunately
there isnt any where I can get it rebuilt without paying lots of $$ or YEN.
So I came across a fellow USAF member who is selling his complete '72
Chevelle with a 350 and TH350 w/ positrack and disc brakes and I want to buy
it and swap everything over.  I think I can do it because they are both A
bodies but I want to be sure before I buy his car.   His car has a crate
engine and rebuilt tranny but the body and interior are shot so the price is
pretty reasonable.  I will keep all my drivetrain etc.. so when I get back
to the states I can swap back.  I know putting a Chevy in an Oldsmobile isnt
too popular but it will be temporary...3 years or so.  Any hints or advice
in this swap will be greatly appreaciated.  Thanks Jeff Lisle
>
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:48:16 -0500
From: OLDSmobility <OLDSmobility@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Toro Pickup on Evil Site

Jay Britt wrote:

> Here's something to get us off the '67 C/S 442 thread.... Anyone seen this
> conversion yet?
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=247370617
> 0


Now returns as 'Invalid Item'. Did anyone save pictures? I'd love to 
have seen it!

Keith

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:08:21 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: FW: Urgent Response. - Please, how can I help you? 

Dear Sir, I would be VERY happy to help you out, but you must keep my 
activities a SECRET. If my wife found out, she would take all the money!

I tried calling you, but my phone service will not let me make the call, all 
I got was static and noise. Please call me right away at the number shown 
below.

NOTE: My roommate sometimes answers the phone funny, with a joke, like 
"Pokey Pizza, can I help you?" - Iif that happens, just insist that you 
speak to me, Hugh G. Rection, in person, right away. He will direct your 
call to me.
- -----------------------
Hugh G. Rection
1303 W. Milner Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Daytime phone:  313-965-2523

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>
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:09:24 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: previous email - scamming the scammers

previous was blind cc'd to the list for your amusement

The phone number is that of the Detroit Office of the FBI.

Heh.
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Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:22:54 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: RE: "68 Horn

Tami,

A lot of good troubleshooting advice has been given, and I'd like to 
share some details from my non-functional horn experiences. 

Two times I had horn issues: 
 The first was a broken spring in the steering column that maintains 
pressure on the bottom circular contact in the horn button base. This 
spring loaded contact pressing on the circular contact is what allows the 
steering wheel to turn more than 360 degrees and still maintain the horn's 
electrical contact. I used the spring out of a Bic pen to fix that one.
 
 The second horn problem was caused by a broken push rivet in the horn button 
itself on my sport wheel. The button would move, but the flex between the 
internal parts due to the broken rivet prevented the electrical contacts 
from touching. I discovered that replacements for those tiny nylon push 
rivets are impossible to find, but the push rivets that hold the console 
upper and lower sections together are nearly the right size (I think it was 
SteveD who saved the day by supplying those).

Good luck in your troubleshooting,

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:47:06 -0400
From: "Kurt" <wmachine@shubes.net>
Subject: RE: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s/4-speed benches

4-speeds (and 3-speed floor shifts)with bench seats are not exactly rare.
In '67 bench seats were a no cost option, as in '66 on the Cutlass models
that the 442 was avaiable on.  In '66, all Club Coupe and F-85 Deluxe 442s
had bench seats.  Buckets were not available on F-85s.

And yes, references are available on request.
Kurt mailto:wmachine@shubes.net
http://wmachines.shubes.net
'65 Jetstar 1 (4-speed)       '66 442 Sport Coupe (Tri-Carb, 4-speed)
'67 442 Convertible (4-speed) '69 442 Convertible (3-speed manual)
'92 Achieva SCX W-41(5-speed) '04 Expedition (no-speed)




> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Infinite Space
> Systems, Inc.
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:33 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s and fancy bumpers
<snip>
> His car also had a bench seat, with the shifter handle curved forward
> correctly to clear the bench seat from the factory. Now before
> anyone jumps
> out of their chair, I drove 2 different brand new 442s that had
> 4-speeds and
> bench seats.
<snip>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:50:34 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: "68 Horn

Ok....I didnt have to much time to work on the horns....it does have horns
and they seem to be hooked up...will work on that tomorrow...I hope! Didnt
get around to trying jumping the horns...sorta speak!

Had to do some painting on the underneith of the car and got the wipers and
the washer working. Replaced the wiper blades and tried them out...works
GREAT!!! I am so excited about this.....lol

The battery did end up draining but I might not have had it charged up
enough last night. It started right up but than after a few times turning it
on and off it died...so had to recharge the battery...that took
sometime....it doesnt spark/arch when I take the postive termonal off the
battery and try to rehook  it....so I am guessing I dont have a short??

But have another question about the horn relay switch.....sorta.....Did the
'68 Cutty come with a buzzer(that works threw the horn relay switch) that
when the door was open and the key was in the ignition it would buz???

Thanks again all for the help!! It means alot to me....hubby is willing to
help me all I want...but am trying to do as much as I can myself and with
the help of the list!!

Tami

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:05:45 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Holley Power Valves

Ron,
personally, I'd rather run Edelbrock too. $$ is a factor for now and I need
to get it running back to when it had some power.......Thanks for your help.
Pat Swanton.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Holley Power Valves


> the power valves mostly go bad after it has spit back threw carb.
personally i hate holley carbs, any company that has a book called how to
fix holley goof ups says alot.  i prefer my edelbrock's but if a stock 4bble
is done correctly and i mean set up according to youre engines personal
demands you just cant beet it.
> for the guys running holley they work well and i know you swear by them
but holley does allow alot of tuneing  for application's. problem is most
guys have no clue what pump cams,springs ect to fine tune it with. which
creats a bigger problem. unfortunitly i can not use the inspection dyno any
more to set the cars up. a 1969 426 charger broke it. the warrenty covered
it thank god because it was a 2500.00 part the car broke.
> any way while rebuilding it you may want to play with the jets and ect to
get more out of it.
> ron
> > Ron,
> > It could be the carb too. I'm getting a rebuild kit for it today too.
> > It's a manual choke and I had to disconnect the choke pulloff in order
to
> > start it Saturday. Is it possible that the last time I ran it Sat. that
the
> > engine and carb being warm then, and now that it was cold on the next
start
> > that power valve deteriated?
> > Thanks.
> > Pat Swanton.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: Holley Power Valves
> >
> >
> > >   if its flooding from stuck floats or no spark  you should smell gas.
> > >   also check to see if choke is stuck shut or open.
> > >   ron
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
> > >   To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:26 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: Holley Power Valves
> > >
> > >
> > >   > Pat,
> > >   >
> > >   > > Could it be a messed up power valve?
> > >   >
> > >   >
>
> > >   > A blown power valve won't prevent the engine from starting and
> > running.
> > >   > It'll just be rich.
> > >   >
> > >   > You said it ran fine Saturday, someone picked up the car and
delivered
> > it to
> > >   > you on Monday, and now it won't run. Is that correct?
> > >   >
> > >   > Could the condenser, either on a points distributor or on a HEI
> > distributor,
> > >   > have failed and is shorting the ignition to ground? Is there any
signs
> > of
> > >   > tampering with the engine? Could someone have played a trick and
> > changed the
> > >   > firing order on the plug wires by rearranging them? Don't laugh at
> > that one.
> > >   > There's a reason some of my hoods are locked.
> > >   >
> > >   > Milton Schick
> > >   > 1964 442 Cutlass
> > >   > imp@theriver.com
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:02:16 -0400
From: "Christian Sager" <chris.sager@cox.net>
Subject: RE: answers arriving long before the question

I have had the same trouble here

Christian

P.S. I feel better now that its not just me

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Infinite Space
Systems, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:43 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Cc: Greg Beaulieu
Subject: answers arriving long before the question

List,

I anyone have any problems receiving answers long before receiving the
question? Today, it seems really bad from chebuto.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:08:25 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: all 67 442's are....

OK, an actual citation or 2 !!!
Thanks, Patton and Nasta

I will submit
I was wrong
Those cars I saw with huge white taillites, er, backup lites and 442 trim 
musta been home-built.

Milton's having wishful memory discontinuities [unless he can get us the 
actual car's owner phone # by chance, and we can verify VIN as not-338xx... 
and a real 442... in which case Milton and I come back right in yer FACE, 
mister...]

I might even change the ad wording.

NAH!
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:47:09 -0500
From: "Eric Beaupre" <ebeaupre@eserv.biz>
Subject: RE: answers arriving long before the question

I've posted messages that haven't went through for over 4 hours before.  I
know I had one last week or earlier this week take that long.  But if there
are answers before questions it must be sending certain posts to some
members quicker than others and not just the entire post being delayed.

Odd....
Eric

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Infinite Space
Systems, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:43 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Cc: Greg Beaulieu
Subject: answers arriving long before the question


List,

I anyone have any problems receiving answers long before receiving the
question? Today, it seems really bad from chebuto.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:48:06 -0500
From: "Eric Beaupre" <ebeaupre@eserv.biz>
Subject: RE: Toro Pickup on Evil Site

I just viewed it.  Try pasting that last "0" on the end of the url before
punching the enter key.

Eric

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of OLDSmobility
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:48 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Toro Pickup on Evil Site


Jay Britt wrote:

> Here's something to get us off the '67 C/S 442 thread.... Anyone seen this
> conversion yet?
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=247370617
> 0


Now returns as 'Invalid Item'. Did anyone save pictures? I'd love to
have seen it!

Keith

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:20:41 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Toro Pickup on Evil Site

Keith,


> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=247370617
> > 0


Add the 0 behind the 7. It caught me the same way.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:26:36 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: '67s - 2 & 4bbl F-85s/4-speed benches

> Buckets were not available on F-85s.


Of course, F-85s always had bench seats and bucket seats were reserved for
the Cutlass.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:07:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: "68 Horn

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, ftfunnyfarm wrote:
> But have another question about the horn relay switch.....sorta.....Did the
> '68 Cutty come with a buzzer(that works threw the horn relay switch) that
> when the door was open and the key was in the ignition it would buz???

Yep. The buzzer is in the relay.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:04:43 -0400
From: "RobV" <rv@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: 68 400 stock rings

Milton,

Thanks for the reply.  Advance Auto got us ring set #E-251X which are way
too big, but they say THAT is the correct ring set.  They are so far off,
there is no way you can file them, or anything. Maybe with your
recommendation of #E-298X, that will conclusively resolve the problem.  I
will get right on it.

Thanks!
Rob
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 68 400 stock rings


> Sealed Power ring set #E-298X. Any auto parts store should be able to get
> them. Info is out of the 2000 Sealed Power ring catalog. Also, your
standard
> bore is 3.8700". For a 3.8750" bore, Sealed Power shows 6 different ring
> sets that will fit your pistons and standard bore. Yes, they would be
> 0.0050" over, but that's an easy file fit for only 5 thousands.

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