
oldsmobile-digest        Friday, April 9 2004        Volume 01 : Number 4849



Re: long time owners....
1998 Silhouette Engine wanted F/S
FS: 1965 330-2V Stick Shift Engine
FS: 1968 Toronado 455 Engine
Advice on 71 Cutlass 455 Rebuild
PH30 and PH25 Oil Filters
Clear Coat question
FS: 1964 Cutlass Hardtop Parts Car and many parts
name that part
Re: Advice on 71 Cutlass 455 Rebuild
FS: 1982 Cutlass Supreme (essentially parts, but can move)
Re: name that part
Man seeks  65 Cutlass parts
PPG Bronze Engine paint results with PIC link
FW: 60/40 bench seat
Re: Advice on 71 Cutlass 455 Rebuild
RE: name that part
Re: Broke An A-Arm today... 
Sell the GM? Not likely. Get another, sure... 
Re: name that part
Tempus Fugit!
Re: name that part
RE: name that part
different listing for misc pcs - not an "auction" now
Re: Tempus Fugit!
RE: name that part
FS: 1966 Cutlass 3.08 Open Rear Axle
Re: lower console
Re: 1964 Cutlass Hardtop Parts Car and many parts
69 Ram Rod with 70 W31 FS
Re: name that part
Re: 1964 Cutlass Hardtop Parts Car and many parts
Re: FS: WHAT A STEAL!  complete 1969 442 drivetrain. Rebuilt 400, big valve C's

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:26:36 -0400
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: long time owners....

nope, but by god your close....  :-)  
john
67 cutlass supreme



> I've had my 65 442 convt for 10 days now.  Did I win? :)
> 
> Eric

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:30:16 -0400
From: "Eric Holcombe" <eholcombe@engineeringservicesgroup.com>
Subject: 1998 Silhouette Engine wanted F/S

Hello all. My '98 Silhouette GLS has succumbed due to a stopped up catalytic converter. The motor still runs but has a mortally wounded knock. I'm in need of a replacement engine if anyone has a lead. I think I have to have a '98 for all the electronics to match - otherwise I can do some swapping.  I will be selling it for trade-in value after repair or to anyone here as-is if interested. It's pewter with tan leather, 122k miles. 50k miles on GM SERTA transmission (if you've been around a while, you know my ordeal on the tranny), tow option (cooler and wiring, but no hitch), almost new Michelin X radials, excellent interior, good exterior, never wrecked. I'm second owner and have all service records since birth. Also have the 3-volume service manuals. Pictures available upon request. Located near Knoxville, TN. I'll sell it as-is for $3500 (Come on Andy, you could use a parts car... ;o) ) I'm selling because I bought a pop-up camper - just not comfortable towing a 2300 lb (unloaded) camper with the van.

> Please email direct with any leads/inquiries to: eholcombe@engineeringservicesgroup.com
> 
> Eric "hey, I'll still have my 442" Holcombe

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:17:31 -0400
From: Gene Gatti <64f-85@comcast.net>
Subject: FS: 1965 330-2V Stick Shift Engine

Hi Guys,
    I have a decent running 330-2V engine that was pulled from a 1965 
f-85 that I would like to sell. It includes the flywheel, pressure 
plate, clutch and bellhousing. I pulled this a couple of years ago and 
cleaned and painted it. I had installed it in my '64 project car but 
then ended up buying a nicer '64 Cutlass instead. Since then the engine 
has been sitting on a custom made engine dolly in my climate controlled 
garage. It turns over nicely and should still run okay. Before I pulled 
it this engine ran smoothly without noises or leaks except for the 
normal seepage that you would expect from a used engine.
    I am asking $300 for it including the stand but you would need to 
pick it up near Atlantic City. I have a hoist so loading it on your 
truck would not be a problem. If interested please reply privately.
Thanks,
Gene
64f-85@comcast.net

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:34:04 -0400
From: Gene Gatti <64f-85@comcast.net>
Subject: FS: 1968 Toronado 455 Engine

Hi Guys,
    I have another engine for sale. This one is a 455 that I pulled from 
a 1968 Toronado. It ran but had a knocking sound near the front. I never 
pulled it apart to investigate so I can't tell you what it was for sure. 
Anyway it is complete from the pan to air cleaner and includes the a/c 
compressor, alternator, power steering pump and custom engine dolly.
    I'm asking $400 for this one but you would need to pick it up near 
Atlantic City. I have a hoist so loading it onto your pickup would not 
be a problem. If interested please reply privately.
Thanks,
Gene
64f-85@comcast.net

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:46:40 -0600
From: eric <aksoe1@sasktel.net>
Subject: Advice on 71 Cutlass 455 Rebuild

Hello all.   I'm looking for some advice and the location of some stuff 
I can't seem to find.  I'm rebuilding a 455 for my 71 Cutlass (the 75 
455 in it now is 29 years old and showing it ).
I've read the FAQ on Cam's , heads etc, and I think I have a good grasp 
of all the Variables involved, and I have a good idea what my End goal 
is.  I'm looking for Good Power, but well below high end high $$ 
horsepower (thats why I like the 455, it doesn't need to work hard to go 
hard).

I'm using a turbo 200R4, with locking torque (ran by a manual switch).  
So far I've driven it all winter, and I love it.  So, I'm rebuilding a 
455 for it.  I have a knowledgable mechanic working on it, but I'd like 
to ask some things:

1)  I'm hoping to get 25 MPIG (22 MPAG ).  Has anyone got this with a 
light car and high gears + overdrive + locking torque.  I got 21 MPIG 
with a 75 cutlass 455, Turbo 400, so I'm hoping.

2)  Is their a spreadsheet still around for Cam sizing, I cant find it, 
but I thought someone had one.   If not any suggestions (I'm thinking a 
higher torque cam, possibly advanced 4 degrees).

3) I think I want High Torque, as RPM will be minimal, I don't expect to 
ever break 2500 to 3000, with a highway speed of around 1600 - 2000 
????  I don't have a tach, but it's the 2.23 Rear end I think with 200R4 
and lock up torque.

4) I have a 74 455 Rebuilt already, but needing a few Rocker Arms/Flex 
Plate etc, and a 71 455 (C Heads) from a wrecked 71 Cutlass.   With a 
high Torque application, are the C heads going to help me, or should I 
save those and use a set of J heads.  Also, is the 71 Block any better 
for this?

Thanx for any thoughts, pointers to documents, or similiar setups and 
experiences.

Eric Aksomitis

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:47:37 -0600
From: eric <aksoe1@sasktel.net>
Subject: PH30 and PH25 Oil Filters

Just thought I'd share this.  Where I live (Saskatchewan, Canada), I 
always end up paying $8 for a PH25 Oil Filter, where the same PH30 is 
sold for $3 or $4.  Of course these are the same filters from what I can 
see, and it really bugs me to pay over double for the same thing.

SO, I bought some PH30's instead (for Chev's), and just peeled off the 
Rubber Ring on the top, and put the smaller Olds rubber ring on.

And, its working great so far.  When replacing, a quick inspection 
reveals nothing wrong with the Gasket on the old PH25, and with the 
Gaskets peeled off, they look the same.

.02 Given

Eric Aksomitis

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:24:40 -0600
From: "DeVries, Garth" <gdevries@acs.utah.edu>
Subject: Clear Coat question

I have always done my own body work but I have not been able to get
decent paint jobs.  So a few years age I decided to try painting myself.
I definitely like using basecoat/clear coat systems.  I have gotten
pretty good with applying the basecoat but I am not very good yet with
the clear coat.  I still get runs/sags.  Anybody have any ideas what I
might be doing wrong.  I am using a Sharpe Platinum HVLP paint gun (if I
remember right it is a 1.8 mm).  I have been told to reduce the air
pressure and change the size.  I just don't' know what size to go to.
Any ideas I would appreciate it. Also, how many coats should I use?  I
definitely have better luck when I apply only two coats of clear.

Thanks,
Garth DeVries
1970 Buick GSX Stage 1
1970 Olds 442 Conv.

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:36:42 -0400
From: Gene Gatti <64f-85@comcast.net>
Subject: FS: 1964 Cutlass Hardtop Parts Car and many parts

Hi Guys,
    I have a 1964 Cutlass Hardtop parts car that I would like to sell. 
It has a lot of rust but could be restored with a lot of time and money. 
I also have a pair of rust free fenders, decent hood with minimal rust, 
inner wheel wells and numerous other parts including rally wheels, 
hubcaps, sway bars, engine parts, complete a/c setup pulled from a '65 
f-85, radiators, etc. Basically I want to clean my garage of Oldsmobile 
parts.
    I live near Atlantic City, NJ so if anyone is interested please let 
me know.
Thanks,
Gene
64f-85@comcast.net

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:42:14 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: name that part

Can anybody tell me what this is?

http://johnnasta.com/mysterypart.jpg

It's one of the parts that Ron Miller returned to me when I got my 69 El
Camino back. Given the fact that many of my parts were never returned and
many of the parts that were sent back with my car were not from my car, it's
entirely possible that it's from another vehicle.

If it is from my car, I'm guessing that when Ron pulled the left quarter
panel, he removed this piece and forgot to put it back. It looks to me like
it's supposed to support the fuel filler tube. It's about a foot and a half
long and a foot wide.

If you know what it is, please let me know.

Thanks,
John Nasta

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:50:27 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Advice on 71 Cutlass 455 Rebuild

> 2)  Is their a spreadsheet still around for Cam sizing, I cant find it,
> but I thought someone had one.   If not any suggestions (I'm thinking a
> higher torque cam, possibly advanced 4 degrees).


Crane Cams 800501 H-192/2667-2S-10,
http://www.cranecams.com/?show=browseParts&lvl=2&prt=5&Vehicle_Type=Auto&Cyl
inders=8&Engine_Make=OLDSMOBILE&Year=1970&Engine_Size=260-455%20C.I.&partNum
ber=800501&partType=camshaft ,
Cam Timing: TAPPET @.050 Lift:
Opens Closes Max Lift Duration
Intake (9) ATDC 21 ABDC 105 192 °
Exhaust 37 BBDC (13) BTDC 115 204 °
Lift: Intake @Valve 427
      Exhaust @Valve 456
SMOOTH IDLE, DAILY USAGE, FUEL ECONOMY, 1600-2200 CRUISE RPM, 7.75 TO 8.75
COMPRESSION RATIO ADVISED. BASIC RPM 1000-4000.

*Do Not* automatically advance a cam just to do it. You're second guessing
the cam manufacturer. Degree the cam in and make sure it's ground correctly.
If the specs are completely off, send the cam back for replacement with a
correct one. If it's correct, run it as manufactured. If the specs are
correct, but the whole cam is either a little retarded or advanced, pull it
back to straight up. Otherwise, leave the cam alone.


> 3) I think I want High Torque, as RPM will be minimal, I don't expect to
> ever break 2500 to 3000, with a highway speed of around 1600 - 2000
> ????  I don't have a tach, but it's the 2.23 Rear end I think with 200R4
> and lock up torque.


See above. That cam will make torque at 500 RPM. Just be certain the base
circle of the cam is compatable with stock non-adjustable rocker arms and
check for correct pushrod length. Actually, I'm a firm believer in
converting over to fully adjustable roller rocker arms for any Olds for any
application. It makes the engine more efficient and frees up a little power
by eliminating friction. That's always a good thing.


> With a
> high Torque application, are the C heads going to help me, or should I
> save those and use a set of J heads.


Do the C heads have 2 1/16" intakes? If so, use the Js. If the C heads have
2" intakes, use them. The stock heads themselves won't make any difference.
The difference in stock heads is the size of the valves. You do not want to
use 2 1/16" intake valves on your application. You want 2" intake valves.
Use whichever head has 2" intake valves.


> Also, is the 71 Block any better
> for this?


No, there's no difference in the blocks for your application. The debate is
whether or not earlier blocks have higher nickel content for maximum
strength than later blocks. You're not wanting to make 500 HP at 6000 RPM,
therefore, it doesn't matter for your application.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:04:41 -0400
From: "David J. Duffner - Trofeoworld.com" <oldslist@trofeoworld.com>
Subject: FS: 1982 Cutlass Supreme (essentially parts, but can move)

Greetings,

	Since folks are doing spring cleaning, I just remembered
my (formerly) faithful '82 CS that's doing no good sitting in
a driveway.  I've got to get this out (or at least arrangements)
by April 15th, so any interest please contact me off-list and
we'll see what we can do.  We're not talking much here, just need
to get it out of it's location and I'd rather see it with someone
who cares than hauled out to a scrapyard and flattened!

	Stats:

	1982 Cutlass Supreme 2DR
	Has a V6, dropped in (poorly) by the previous owner but is
           easily overhauled and did work fine when the vehicle was in motion.
	Exterior:  Bumpers - forget it.  Both rusted out but may be of use.
		Main Body - rust in quarters but the doors, trunk lid & hood are
			in reasonable shape.
		Front Clip - solid, but grilles are shot.  Some trim in good
shape.
		Glass:  All glass in excellent shape (unless something's
happened
			in storms since last I checked, which was recently).
		Insignias:  Eh, has them all but not in the best condition.
		Trim:  Around glass, good to excellent.  Around wheelwells,
nope.
	Interior:  Split bench seat in reasonable condition.
		Rear seat in excellent condition.
		Dash has sunfade, but certainly recoverable.
		Steering wheel/column in good condition.
		Other interior parts in decent shape but the headliner fabric is
			not worth the effort.  Rear deck has sunfade but is not 
			damaged as I can recall.
	Wheels:  Aftermarket rims(?) but the tires are shot so you'd need others
		or a flatbed to get this thing out.
	Undercarriage:  I haven't been under there in a long time, rockers are
		(or at least were) in solid shape as was the frame, which was 
		stunning for the amount of rust in the body panels.

	So, if this is of interest please contact me offlist at the address in
this e-mail and we'll go from there.  No pics, can't get them easily at this
point before the deadline but I can give it a shot.  Clear title, easily 
transferable and have a Notary handy to deal with that if needed.  Vehicle
hasn't moved in a long time, just for disclosure's sake.
	
	Thanks,

      David J. Duffner
      Editor
      TrofeoWorld.com

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:07:26 -0600
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: name that part

John Nasta wrote:

> Can anybody tell me what this is?
> http://johnnasta.com/mysterypart.jpg

If you send it to me I will name it George, and I will hug it and pet it 
and squeeze it ...

On a more serious note, isn't it just a kickpanel that is photographed 
upside down?
- --

It's time to realize that if you ain't got it by now then you ain't 
gonna get it.

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:10:46 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Man seeks  65 Cutlass parts

Please contact seeker DIRECTLY if you can assist.
================================

>From: "evmartinson" <evmartinson@comcast.net>
>To: <RocketScience442@hotmail.com>
>Subject: 65 Cutlass parts
>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:08:00 -0700
>
>Hi
>
>I am looking for some parts for a 65 Cutlass Holiday coupe
>
>mounting brackets for A/C compressor and alternator if it is relocated.
>
>Outer bumper brackets for the front and rear.
>
>"T" handle shifter parts- the top handle complete
>
>might you have any of these items
>
>Erik
>evmartinson@comcast.net

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:10:35 -0500
From: "Eric Beaupre" <ebeaupre@eserv.biz>
Subject: PPG Bronze Engine paint results with PIC link

Here she is.  Before/After of the engine as well as the engine bay and a
shot of the car.  I'm not real sure what the paint shade is supposed to look
like but from various pictures I've seen as well as period literature it
looks about right.

http://www.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=492644621105

- --
Eric Beaupre

Engineering
eServ LLC
8200 N Allen Rd
Peoria, IL 61615
ofc: 309-691-4957 X1034
fax: 309-691-4960
cel: 309-453-3895
eml: ebeaupre@eserv.biz

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:34:18 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: FW: 60/40 bench seat

>From: "Dave Townsend" <dtownsend@efficient-eng.com>
>To: <RocketScience442@hotmail.com>
>Subject: 60/40 bench seat
>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 11:55:09 -0400
>
>looking for a 60/40 bench seat with arm rest. Buckskin color
>for 77 cutlass.
===============
No got here...

List folks?

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 19:01:42 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Advice on 71 Cutlass 455 Rebuild

the 2004r will need some serious mods to live behind a 455
the c heads are good for high performance but need decked if you want  decent compression from ther 80cc combustion chambers.
before you  start bolting things from this to that you need to ideally figure out what youre looking for and start there.
a 455 with 3.23 gets good mpg as long as you drive it gently.
if youre going to use od trans make sure in 4th gear tcc locked up youre not lugging the engine with redicuosly low rpm's.  
ron
> Hello all.   I'm looking for some advice and the location of some stuff 
> I can't seem to find.  I'm rebuilding a 455 for my 71 Cutlass (the 75 
> 455 in it now is 29 years old and showing it ).
> I've read the FAQ on Cam's , heads etc, and I think I have a good grasp 
> of all the Variables involved, and I have a good idea what my End goal 
> is.  I'm looking for Good Power, but well below high end high $$ 
> horsepower (thats why I like the 455, it doesn't need to work hard to go 
> hard).
> 
> I'm using a turbo 200R4, with locking torque (ran by a manual switch).  
> So far I've driven it all winter, and I love it.  So, I'm rebuilding a 
> 455 for it.  I have a knowledgable mechanic working on it, but I'd like 
> to ask some things:
> 
> 1)  I'm hoping to get 25 MPIG (22 MPAG ).  Has anyone got this with a 
> light car and high gears + overdrive + locking torque.  I got 21 MPIG 
> with a 75 cutlass 455, Turbo 400, so I'm hoping.
> 
> 2)  Is their a spreadsheet still around for Cam sizing, I cant find it, 

> but I thought someone had one.   If not any suggestions (I'm thinking a 
> higher torque cam, possibly advanced 4 degrees).
> 
> 3) I think I want High Torque, as RPM will be minimal, I don't expect to 
> ever break 2500 to 3000, with a highway speed of around 1600 - 2000 
> ????  I don't have a tach, but it's the 2.23 Rear end I think with 200R4 
> and lock up torque.
> 
> 4) I have a 74 455 Rebuilt already, but needing a few Rocker Arms/Flex 
> Plate etc, and a 71 455 (C Heads) from a wrecked 71 Cutlass.   With a 
> high Torque application, are the C heads going to help me, or should I 
> save those and use a set of J heads.  Also, is the 71 Block any better 
> for this?
> 
> Thanx for any thoughts, pointers to documents, or similiar setups and 
> experiences.
> 
> Eric Aksomitis

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:14:12 -0500
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: name that part

It appears to be a shield for the filler neck.  It would prevent rocks and 
other unwanted things from beating the filler to death.  You are right in 
assuming it came out from the rear 1/4 while it was apart.  GM has used 
these in various designs for many years in vehicles with a side filler tube 
exposed to the elements.



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:25:44 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Broke An A-Arm today... 

Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:18:58 -0400
From: AnTiCr0mBi@aol.com
Subject: Re: Broke An A-Arm today...

Yeah, there's a huge design flaw in those control arms, it's happened to me
twice. Both times was at an extreme as far as suspension movement. Going in
reverse, uphill, and turning the wheels all the way to the right. I guess it 
was
just too much weight and stress on the arms. They broke (both times it was 
the
passenger side lower) very close to the ball joint. And the arms look like 
they
had been cracked before the major break. It's scary, and whenever I go 
through
my suspension, I'm welding and re-enforcing the hell out of those arms.

- - -Eric Anderson
1964 Cutlass
http://www.angelfire.com/retro/ericskars=
====================
Hmmm.....
Isn't turning motion limited by a pc of the spindle contacting the A-arm in 
that area? With power steering, driver can apply a LOT of force if the 
steering is held at extreme of travel. Which, of course, is never a good 
idea. I am wondering it that contact, complicated by motion between the 2 
pcs as the suspension moves, contributed significantly.

You get just about as tight a turn at 99% turned as you do at 100% contact 
of the travel limiting pcs... but w/o that additional stress on the parts.

Food fer thought...
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:30:28 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Sell the GM? Not likely. Get another, sure... 

I see that a lot more people on
this list have stayed true and kept their one special Olds for many, many
years.
That is very good.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com
==============
Occasionaly we get asked if we care to sell the GrinMaker
To which our reply typically involves pointing out the ear to ear grin, and 
"see this?"
No, the Grinmaker will not be sold until and unless very bad things happen 
economically.
A year or 2 of unemployment is NOT that bad.

Now, if only I could fix up the hardtop version.
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:32:31 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: name that part

At Thursday, 08 April 2004, you wrote:

>John Nasta wrote:
>
>> Can anybody tell me what this is?
>> http://johnnasta.com/mysterypart.jpg

Looks to me a lot like the plate mounted next to the filler tube 
that keeps spilled gas from dribbling on the hot tailpipe. I believe 
my '83 M*libu wagon has one very similar as its exhaust pipe comes 
out the left side right underneath the filler door.

Whether that's the correct one for your '69 Elky, I couldn't say.

SteveH



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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:35:15 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Tempus Fugit!

Tempus Fugit!
=====
John Pajak
=================
John, what's the point of cursing like that here in this forum?! There might 
be kids reading this stuff!

What you got agin' Tempests or Pontiacs, anyhow?

:-)

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:48:32 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: name that part

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Left-handed cheese straightener, right?

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:56:35 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: name that part

I would say that it's definitely not a kick panel. It's a stamped steel
piece. I guess I'll just chuck it. Even the guys on the Chevelle list
couldn't ID it, so it's probably not from my car. I'm sure somebody is
wondering where it went the same way I'm wondering where so many of my parts
went.

John Nasta



- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Cliff Simpson
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:07 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: name that part

John Nasta wrote:

> Can anybody tell me what this is?
> http://johnnasta.com/mysterypart.jpg

If you send it to me I will name it George, and I will hug it and pet it
and squeeze it ...

On a more serious note, isn't it just a kickpanel that is photographed
upside down?
- --

It's time to realize that if you ain't got it by now then you ain't
gonna get it.

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:11:55 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: different listing for misc pcs - not an "auction" now

This is how I *meant to* list the misc. cleaned items:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46098&item=2472843568&ssPageName=STRK:MESSE:IT

Please stop by, take a gander, and give me some feedback?
No feedback yet, but I do not see on the digests anywhere my post seeking 
input either.

Is it confusing? At least now you can buy right away, and not have to wait 
until an "auction" ends.

You can see a closeer pic of the results of the cleaning process too.
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: J Pajak <ransomeliolds@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tempus Fugit!

- --- Christopher Witt <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Tempus Fugit!
> =====
> John Pajak
> =================
> John, what's the point of cursing like that here in
> this forum?! There might 
> be kids reading this stuff!
> 
> What you got agin' Tempests or Pontiacs, anyhow?
> 
> :-)
> 
> -----------------------
> Chris Witt
> 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:00:20 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: name that part

Thanks Dave & Steve,

It's nice to know that I'm still discovering the extent of the damage that
Ron did to my car. I guess it's kind of mo-Ron-ic to leave a piece like that
out.

Fuel on a hot exhaust pipe is a serious concern. I guess when I stop for gas
I'll have to let the car cool down for an hour before pumping. Thanks Ron!
What's going to be the excuse for this foul-up? Is he going to claim that I
wanted it that way, or that $9k isn't enough money to justify returning the
car in such a way that it wouldn't cause a fire?

John Nasta



- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Dave Wyatt
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:14 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: name that part

It appears to be a shield for the filler neck.  It would prevent rocks and
other unwanted things from beating the filler to death.  You are right in
assuming it came out from the rear 1/4 while it was apart.  GM has used
these in various designs for many years in vehicles with a side filler tube
exposed to the elements.



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:35:04 -0700
From: "Karl Sup" <droldslives@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: 1966 Cutlass 3.08 Open Rear Axle

**List Special**
Complete 1966 Cutlass rear axle with control arms. Missing drums. 3.08 open 
Arizona pit-free axle.
Finally decided... "What am I hanging on to this for still??"

Best offer over $100. Hit me off list at droldslives@hotmail.com
No cost to palletize it. Shipping extra of course. :-)

I also have a complete 1969 442 drivetrain. Rebuilt 400, big valve C heads, 
WZ, 7029253 carb, 1111933 distributor, 398662 intake, Rebuilt TH400 (OG) and 
rebuilt 3.42 posi (TM). $2500 obo

Thanks for looking!!
Karl Sup
Mesa, AZ

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 20:13:50 -0500
From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: lower console

On Apr 7, 2004, at 10:42 PM, oldsmobile-digest wrote:

> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 05:02:58 EDT
> From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
> Subject: Re: lower console
>
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> In a message dated 4/6/04 12:48:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> kcolund@shaw.ca
>  writes:
>
>> I am looking for a non cracked door for the console on my 69. Since I 
>> don't
>> have your e-mail address, If you have one
>> can you contact me at kcolund@shaw.ca
>
> Kevin,
>       Sorry but all the consoles that I have are for 70-72 cars.  Not 
> sure if
> the doors are interchangeable from 69's to later years.  Anyone else 
> know?
> If they are I have a couple extras.
> Steve D

This is a different Kevin - just so happens I need a console door for a 
console that I picked up a few years ago.
How much?
>
On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...

Kevin Wright                                         
krwright@sbcglobal.net
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                             
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/70Olds.html

'71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans: 
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/71_cutlass.html

Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31! 
And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :)
...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be 
parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:50:19 -0400
From: "Randy Geisel" <rocket455@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 1964 Cutlass Hardtop Parts Car and many parts

> Basically I want to clean my garage of Oldsmobile parts.

Quick, get the smelling salts!!  Gene...have you gone off the deep end? LOL

Don't sell 'em, just move 'em into the house...just ask my wife about the
carb she found while cleaning off the top of the entertainment center. Never
thought she'd find it behind that big speaker....dang!

Randy

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 22:20:21 -0400
From: "73H/O OLDSRIP" <jtmwalt@netsync.net>
Subject: 69 Ram Rod with 70 W31 FS

Hi all,

I haven't seen this but have talked to the guy a couple times today. I am
not in a position to add to the Olds stable this summer so I am passing this
along.

The car runs strong now, claims with brake work can be driven. the engine
has been  varafied to be a 70 W31 with special balancer. The bad part is the
intake, carb, air cleaner and dist. are gone. Has a edelbrock inake and
carb. Has the orig trans. and 12 bolt rear, This is a Canadian car so it
should be the cheby rear. The aluminum cover is not there.
the vin is 3448791151836, engine # is 395558 2,  #6 heads.
The body is complete and in fair to good shape. trunk floor bad, figure on
floor pan repair/replacement depending on degree of restoration. He says
very restorable.
I don't know this guy but he seems straight forward, he has a few classic
Pontiacs.
This was/is his cousins car.

Asking 2k firm, located in Western NY State.
If interested call Eric at  (716) 681-3451

Good luck

Joe Walters
73 H/O

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 22:55:04 -0400
From: "Roc88ket" <roc88ket@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: name that part

It looks a lot like the pan (shield)  on my '53 88 that attaches to the
bottom of the frame right under the starter.

John Sanders

'53 88
'01 Aurora 4.0


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
To: "Chevelle List" <chevelle-list@chevelles.net>; "Olds Mailing List"
<oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: name that part


> Can anybody tell me what this is?
>
> http://johnnasta.com/mysterypart.jpg
>
> It's one of the parts that Ron Miller returned to me when I got my 69 El
> Camino back. Given the fact that many of my parts were never returned and
> many of the parts that were sent back with my car were not from my car,
it's
> entirely possible that it's from another vehicle.
>
> If it is from my car, I'm guessing that when Ron pulled the left quarter
> panel, he removed this piece and forgot to put it back. It looks to me
like
> it's supposed to support the fuel filler tube. It's about a foot and a
half
> long and a foot wide.
>
> If you know what it is, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> John Nasta
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:16:46 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: 1964 Cutlass Hardtop Parts Car and many parts

Randy, yer gonna get us in legal trouble!!! Where is the disclaimer??? 
(Dont' try this at home!)

M

At 09:50 PM 4/8/2004 -0400, Randy wrote:
>just ask my wife about the carb she found while cleaning off the top of 
>the entertainment center. Never
>thought she'd find it behind that big speaker....dang!

Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:20:18 EDT
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: FS: WHAT A STEAL!  complete 1969 442 drivetrain. Rebuilt 400, big valve C's

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In a message dated 4/8/2004 7:41:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
droldslives@hotmail.com writes:
I also have a complete 1969 442 drivetrain. Rebuilt 400, big valve C heads, 
WZ, 7029253 carb, 1111933 distributor, 398662 intake, Rebuilt TH400 (OG) and 
rebuilt 3.42 posi (TM). $2500 obo


HEY KARL         THIS SOUNDS AWESOME<    MORE DETAILS PLEASE!!!!

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