
oldsmobile-digest      Saturday, March 27 2004      Volume 01 : Number 4833



Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?
Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?
RE: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?
Test------
Re: 1969 option codes
Re: Test------
RE: Test------
Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?
Re: Test------
Re: Taiwan Grommets not so good
Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?
Re: Test------
RE: Mike's Quadra-bog solved?
1968 Cutlass Value
Re: 1968 Cutlass Value
Re: 1969 option codes
RE: 1968 Cutlass Value
RE: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM
Re: shift handle
Re: shift handle
ebay 70 W30
Re: 1968 Cutlass Value
Re: Test------
Re: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM
Re: M14 pix- 1968 CSM
Re: shift handle
Re: shift handle
Re: 1969 option codes
Pushrods
Re: Pushrods
67 442 Headliner trim retainer
[Fwd: great weekend]

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:33:32 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?

I don't think my posts are making it through....

Steve Reed check out  www.bobspeedometer.com 

Let me know if this gets through please. 
Thanks..
Pat Swanton....

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Reed" <ssreed@direcway.com>
To: "Olds" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:17 PM
Subject: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?


> All,
> Who repairs and calibrates the rallye pack gauge sets?  I've got to
> get the clock working in mine, and should have the tachometer calibrated,
> and the speedometer as well.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Steve Reed
> '96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
> '70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
> '68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
> Austin, TX
> http://www.sreed.0catch.com 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:41:21 -0500
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?

Steve Reed wrote:

> All,
> 	Who repairs and calibrates the rallye pack gauge sets?  I've got to
> get the clock working in mine, and should have the tachometer calibrated,
> and the speedometer as well.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Steve Reed
> '96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
> '70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
> '68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
> Austin, TX
> http://www.sreed.0catch.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Steve
    Try clocksandgauges.com They did really nice reasonably priced work 
for me
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:45:33 -0600
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: RE: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?

Pat,

> > All,
> > Who repairs and calibrates the rallye pack gauge sets?  I've got to
> > get the clock working in mine, and should have the 
> tachometer calibrated,
> > and the speedometer as well.

> > Thanks!

> > Steve Reed


> I don't think my posts are making it through....
> 
> Steve Reed check out  www.bobspeedometer.com 
> 
> Let me know if this gets through please. 
> Thanks..
> Pat Swanton....

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.


Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com 

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:38:58 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Test------

Can someone tell me if this went through? 

Thanks
Pat Swanton..

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:00:38 -0700
From: Cliff Simpson <csimpson@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: 1969 option codes

Gerow, Daniel R. wrote:
> 
>  A gentlemen recently contacted me with some questions regarding option
> codes "PL5" and "Y64" for 1969 Olds A bodies.  He needs to know what these
> codes are and why it's so difficult to locate any info on them.  If my
> memory serves me correctly, PL5 was for wide oval raised letter tires 

From: http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/69_large/442Equip.jpg

PL5 - Tires, F70 x 14" Blackwall Wide-Oval Polyester-Cord-With raiesed 
white letters

No idea what a Y64 is though, sorry.
- -- 

Cliff "It's not Y64, it's why not 64?" Simpson
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/TheOldsZone.html

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:04:34 -0500
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: Test------

yes Pat, loud and clear
john
67 cutlass supreme
Subject: Test------


> Can someone tell me if this went through? 
> 
> Thanks
> Pat Swanton..
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:06:42 -0500
From: "David J. Duffner - Trofeoworld.com" <oldslist@trofeoworld.com>
Subject: RE: Test------

>-----Original Message-----
>From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
>[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of swanny
>Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:39 PM
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Test------
>
>Can someone tell me if this went through? 
>
>Thanks
>Pat Swanton..

	5x5 here...

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:57:37 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?

Does anybody know where I could get a rallye pack gauge set for my g-body? I
need one for my '78 and for my '86
Thanks for any info......
Pat Swanton.


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Reed" <ssreed@direcway.com>
To: "Olds" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:17 PM
Subject: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?


> All,
> Who repairs and calibrates the rallye pack gauge sets?  I've got to
> get the clock working in mine, and should have the tachometer calibrated,
> and the speedometer as well.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Steve Reed
> '96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
> '70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
> '68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
> Austin, TX
> http://www.sreed.0catch.com
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:08:33 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Test------

Thanks John.

My cable is having difficulties with the weather

Thank you for replying.
Pat Swanton
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: Test------


> yes Pat, loud and clear
> john
> 67 cutlass supreme
> Subject: Test------
> 
> 
> > Can someone tell me if this went through? 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Pat Swanton..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:36:28 -0600
From: David Brown <dbrown@mh1.uchospitals.edu>
Subject: Re: Taiwan Grommets not so good

Call Dal @ 800-362-9494, lockitup@bright.net. He doesn't reem on shipping.

22532566  Olds V-8 valve cover grommet for breather    1.55
385283    Olds V-8 valve cover grommet for PCV valve   4.38

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:53:14 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?

Steve,
I made a mistake in the link....

www.bobsspeedometer.com 


I missed an 's'

Pat Swanton
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Reed" <ssreed@direcway.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: Rallye Pack Tachometer Calibration?


> Pat,
> 
> > > All,
> > > Who repairs and calibrates the rallye pack gauge sets?  I've got to
> > > get the clock working in mine, and should have the 
> > tachometer calibrated,
> > > and the speedometer as well.
> 
> > > Thanks!
> 
> > > Steve Reed
> 
> 
> > I don't think my posts are making it through....
> > 
> > Steve Reed check out  www.bobspeedometer.com 
> > 
> > Let me know if this gets through please. 
> > Thanks..
> > Pat Swanton....
> 
> Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
> 
> 
> Steve Reed
> '96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
> '70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
> '68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
> Austin, TX
> http://www.sreed.0catch.com 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:36:39 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Test------

Thankyou 
Pat Swanton
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David J. Duffner - Trofeoworld.com" <oldslist@trofeoworld.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: Test------


> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
> >[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of swanny
> >Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:39 PM
> >To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> >Subject: Test------
> >
> >Can someone tell me if this went through? 
> >
> >Thanks
> >Pat Swanton..
> 
> 5x5 here...
> 

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:29:14 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: RE: Mike's Quadra-bog solved?

At 08:20 AM 3/26/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>I had some galvanized flashing that I thought about cutting and 
>installing over the crossover ports, but I talked myself out of it. 
>Maybe next time.  I really expected the gaskets to come with a 
>couple of metal block of plates.

Metal plate will burn through after awhile, even stainless steel. The only
thing that lasts are plugs of one type or another.

SteveH

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:39:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Crumley <crumleym_50@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1968 Cutlass Value

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.  I have a
quick question.
There is a 68 Hardtop Cutlass for sale.  The owner
states that it has not been on the road since 92 I
believe.  He says it's a California car that was
brought to Missouri in 86 and stored since 92 when his
buddy spun a bearing in the 455.  Apparently the
fenders need patched and that is the only rust repair
needed.  It's a bench seat, non-A/C, power drum brake
car.  It has a turbo-350 with an open rear.  He said
the rear gear is 3.50 something but I don't think so. 
I don't know if that is correct.  I have not seen the
car.
Asking price is $3000 with a ready to run Buick 455
and the Olds 455 with the spun bearing.  He said $2500
if I don't need the motors.
Is this a fair price?  I went online to Cars & Parts
website and the value for a #5 car $400, #4 car is
$1200, #3 $2900.  My gut feeling says $1500-$2000.  
Thanks for any input.

Matt
St. Louis


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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:52:44 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: 1968 Cutlass Value

Matt,
Sounds a bit high to me, but then I'm cheap.  For comparison, we have a 
good looking '68 locally.  137K miles, new paint and good interior, well 
maintained at $5200.  The 455 was not the original engine for that car either.

M

At 04:39 PM 3/26/2004 -0800, Matt wrote:
>Hope everyone is having a good weekend.  I have a
>quick question.
>There is a 68 Hardtop Cutlass for sale.  The owner
>states that it has not been on the road since 92 I
>believe.  He says it's a California car that was
>brought to Missouri in 86 and stored since 92 when his
>buddy spun a bearing in the 455.  Apparently the
>fenders need patched and that is the only rust repair
>needed.  It's a bench seat, non-A/C, power drum brake
>car.  It has a turbo-350 with an open rear.  He said
>the rear gear is 3.50 something but I don't think so.
>I don't know if that is correct.  I have not seen the
>car.
>Asking price is $3000 with a ready to run Buick 455
>and the Olds 455 with the spun bearing.  He said $2500
>if I don't need the motors.
>Is this a fair price?  I went online to Cars & Parts
>website and the value for a #5 car $400, #4 car is
>$1200, #3 $2900.  My gut feeling says $1500-$2000.
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Matt
>St. Louis

Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:30:21 +0000
From: 62oldsfan@comcast.net
Subject: Re: 1969 option codes

> If my
> memory serves me correctly, PL5 was for wide oval raised letter tires (no?)
Y
es.  PL5 - Tires, F70 x 14" Blackwall Wide-Oval Polyester-Cord -  With raised 
white letters. W31 required. V-8 model. . .$89.52 on F-85 and Cutlass S models.

PL5 - Tires, F70 x 14" Blackwall Wide-Oval Polyester-Cord - With raised white
letters. . .$26.33 on 4-4-2 models.

> but I don't know what "Y64" is.  

Neither of my books (both are early issues) list a Y64.  Must have been a 
mid-year thing.  But from the looks of the other Y codes it must be some sort of
stripe or interior option.  Y60 is convenience group, Y62 is Toronado special
order paint, Y67 is deluxe interior equipment, Y69 is Toronado Custom trim, Y70
is paint stripes, Y71 is Delta 88 Custom trim, Y72 is heavy duty engine cooling
and Y73 is hood paint stripes.

Nothing on Y64 in my '70 materials, either.

Paul

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:15:07 -0600
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: RE: 1968 Cutlass Value

Matt,

> Hope everyone is having a good weekend.  I have a quick question.
> There is a 68 Hardtop Cutlass for sale.  The owner states 
> that it has not been on the road since 92 I believe.  He says 
> it's a California car that was brought to Missouri in 86 and 
> stored since 92 when his buddy spun a bearing in the 455.  
> Apparently the fenders need patched and that is the only rust 
> repair needed.  It's a bench seat, non-A/C, power drum brake 
> car.  It has a turbo-350 with an open rear.  He said the rear 
> gear is 3.50 something but I don't think so. 
> I don't know if that is correct.  I have not seen the car.
> Asking price is $3000 with a ready to run Buick 455 and the 
> Olds 455 with the spun bearing.  He said $2500 if I don't 
> need the motors.
> Is this a fair price?  I went online to Cars & Parts website 
> and the value for a #5 car $400, #4 car is $1200, #3 $2900.  
> My gut feeling says $1500-$2000.  
> Thanks for any input.
> 
> Matt
> St. Louis

I agree with what Mark replied with, it does seem a bit rich to me.  Granted
I was able to buy my '68 (seized engine, and brake system when I bought it)
for $300.00, but I know a deal like that doesn't come along every day.

The 455 is not the original engine, and the car does need some work.  The
$3,000 is definitely a bit much, and I agree with what you are willing to
offer, although I'd start @ $1,200 myself.  You can always go up, but if you
see the car, and like it, and show up with dead presidents in hand, it helps
negotiate the price you want.

BTW:  You don't have a brother Dennis in NYC do you?


Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode)
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine)
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com 

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:34:38 -0500
From: "Kurt" <wmachine@shubes.net>
Subject: RE: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM

I know you don't expect *me* to be suprised!
My '66 CSM shows what must be the same thing Ken sees.  I'll send you scans,
Milton.  Can't really match what I'm seeing there to a particular F*rd trans
in the the Hurst trans id illustrations, though.

Kurt mailto:wmachine@shubes.net
http://wmachines.shubes.net
'65 Jetstar 1 (4-speed)       '66 442 Sport Coupe (Tri-Carb, 4-speed)
'67 442 Convertible (4-speed) '69 442 Convertible (3-speed manual)
'92 Achieva SCX W-41(5-speed) '04 Expedition (no-speed)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Infinite Space
> Systems, Inc.
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:27 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM
>
>
> That sure sounds like a Ford top cover 3-speed. Is there any way you could
> scan that and send it to people as a jpg?
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:44 PM
> Subject: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM
>
>
> > Listmembers,
> >
> > While looking at my 1968 CSM (trying to check for a possible correlation
> from
> > 1968 to 1969 options) I cam across an unusual manual transmission: Heavy
> Duty
> > 3-Speed, available in:
> >
> > 1) All the "A" Bodies except Vista Cruisers. Optional Heavy-Duty with
> Floor
> > Shifter for F-85, Cutlass and Cutlass Supreme (M-14), Standard for 442.
> > 2) 54 (Delmont 88), 64 (Delta 88), and 66 (Delta 88 Custom) Series,
> Standard
> > with Column Shift.
> >
> > In the manual it looks to have a 9-bolt cover on the top of the
> transmission
> > and no "cover" like the Muncies and Saginaws have on the side.
> The shift
> > levers (mostly on the covers of the other transmissions) come
> through the
> case on
> > the side but without a cover to remove.  They devote all of
> seven pages to
> it,
> > and it appears to have a standard bolt pattern to the bellhousing.
> >
> > They go on to say that they can be ID'd by 2-inch high letters on the
> > right-hand side of the extension housing: DA for the big cars,
> DB for the
> rest.
> >
> > By 1970, this same particular transmission is only available in the big
> cars
> > (extension housing code DA) and the "M-14" 3-Speed for the
> A-Bodies looks
> more
> > like a Saginaw or Muncie.
> >
> > Could this be our illustrious "Brand F" manual transmission?
> >
> > Take Care,
> > SrA Ken Snyder
> > Kansas City, Kansas
> >
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:53:31 -0500
From: "Joe Gutierrez" <joe_gut@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: shift handle

Ron,

The Parts Place sells the mounting brackets along with tons of stuff you
can't get elsewhere.  I've bought my dual gate brackets and other items from
them several times with great results.

thepartsplaceinc.com

Hard to use catalog but good parts.

Joe Gutierrez
Ft. Lauderdale FL
71 442 conv't
72 Hurst/Olds ht
2002 Corvette Conv't


> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:51:31 -0500
> From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: shift handle

> I have one out of my 72 convertable, since i'm swapping it to a dual gate
one > > day if I could find
> the correct mounting brackets
> Ron

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:09:30 -1000
From: "Christopher Brown" <Olds-Supreme72@hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: Re: shift handle

what are you asking for it??
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: shift handle


> I have one out of my 72 convertable, since i'm swapping it to a dual gate
one day if I could find
> the correct mounting brackets
> Ron
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Brown" <Olds-Supreme72@hawaii.rr.com>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:57 AM
> Subject: shift handle
>
>
> > Does anyone happen to have a 72 or compatible shifter handle for a
Cutlass
> > Supreme with auto and console?  Mine seems to have broken in half.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris Brown
> >
> >
>
>

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:12:39 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: ebay 70 W30

WOW !!!!!
NICE RESTO !!!!!!
Where's the PCV ?!?!?!?!?!
I DO NOT SEE IT on the intake manifold, is that not a factory intake 
?!?!?!?!?!
Is that engine U-bracket really supposed to be engine color on a W30 
?!?!?!?!?
If not, what is the correct finish ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Damn, is that seller happy with exclamation POINTS !!!!!!
I get all excited just reading the ad 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:51:35 -0800
From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: 1968 Cutlass Value

Matt:

I think your gut feeling is correct.

Note that california cars, where I am, do generally not have rust in the 
fender bottoms. I would be suspicious of the CA car / storage story. 
Nevertheless, it probably has less rust than other examples in that area. 
Note that the A body has one notorious, hard to repair area of rust. Under 
the chrome piece in the windshield cowl / dash area. You need to check 
there for rust. I have seen horrible things in that area...

A th350 isn't worth much with a 455 in front of it.

Sounds like the car is quite a basket case. Why not spend a few grand more 
and start with a 442 restoration. A car that has matching numbers, and dump 
your money into something that will have somewhat of a value, after  you 
are done. A non matching 455 equipped cherry cutlass won't cut it, if you 
ever have to sell the car. Unfortunately (or fortunately in many other 
cases) these aren't chevy's, where you can sell anything for big $, 
original or not.

Cheers, George

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:23:53 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Test------

Read you 5 x 5.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 2:38 PM
Subject: Test------


> Can someone tell me if this went through?
>
> Thanks
> Pat Swanton..
>
>

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:32:15 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM

Okay, Kurt.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt" <wmachine@shubes.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM


> I know you don't expect *me* to be suprised!
> My '66 CSM shows what must be the same thing Ken sees.  I'll send you
scans,
> Milton.  Can't really match what I'm seeing there to a particular F*rd
trans
> in the the Hurst trans id illustrations, though.
>
> Kurt mailto:wmachine@shubes.net
> http://wmachines.shubes.net
> '65 Jetstar 1 (4-speed)       '66 442 Sport Coupe (Tri-Carb, 4-speed)
> '67 442 Convertible (4-speed) '69 442 Convertible (3-speed manual)
> '92 Achieva SCX W-41(5-speed) '04 Expedition (no-speed)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> > [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Infinite Space
> > Systems, Inc.
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:27 PM
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM
> >
> >
> > That sure sounds like a Ford top cover 3-speed. Is there any way you
could
> > scan that and send it to people as a jpg?
> >
> > Milton Schick
> > 1964 442 Cutlass
> > imp@theriver.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <KS7RACING@aol.com>
> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:44 PM
> > Subject: Unusual 3-Speed In CSM
> >
> >
> > > Listmembers,
> > >
> > > While looking at my 1968 CSM (trying to check for a possible
correlation
> > from
> > > 1968 to 1969 options) I cam across an unusual manual transmission:
Heavy
> > Duty
> > > 3-Speed, available in:
> > >
> > > 1) All the "A" Bodies except Vista Cruisers. Optional Heavy-Duty with
> > Floor
> > > Shifter for F-85, Cutlass and Cutlass Supreme (M-14), Standard for
442.
> > > 2) 54 (Delmont 88), 64 (Delta 88), and 66 (Delta 88 Custom) Series,
> > Standard
> > > with Column Shift.
> > >
> > > In the manual it looks to have a 9-bolt cover on the top of the
> > transmission
> > > and no "cover" like the Muncies and Saginaws have on the side.
> > The shift
> > > levers (mostly on the covers of the other transmissions) come
> > through the
> > case on
> > > the side but without a cover to remove.  They devote all of
> > seven pages to
> > it,
> > > and it appears to have a standard bolt pattern to the bellhousing.
> > >
> > > They go on to say that they can be ID'd by 2-inch high letters on the
> > > right-hand side of the extension housing: DA for the big cars,
> > DB for the
> > rest.
> > >
> > > By 1970, this same particular transmission is only available in the
big
> > cars
> > > (extension housing code DA) and the "M-14" 3-Speed for the
> > A-Bodies looks
> > more
> > > like a Saginaw or Muncie.
> > >
> > > Could this be our illustrious "Brand F" manual transmission?
> > >
> > > Take Care,
> > > SrA Ken Snyder
> > > Kansas City, Kansas
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:03:44 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: M14 pix- 1968 CSM

> attached, per your rqst!
> All this time, a Ford thing in my library, I never noticed it!


Chris & List,

>From your attachments, it looks like a Ford T&C, Hurst trans code 336, 9
bolt top cover, fully synchronized 3-speed, in use from '65 up in all V8
Mustangs.

My '85 Hurst catalog was a little more detailed than the online website.

I sure wish I had a driveline, yoke, U-joint catalog. I sure would like to
know how Olds hooked up the driveshaft to the trans.

Oh well.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:05:59 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: shift handle

  make a offer i have no idea what its worth
  ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Christopher Brown" <Olds-Supreme72@hawaii.rr.com>
  To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:09 PM
  Subject: Re: shift handle


  > what are you asking for it??
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
  > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 2:51 AM
  > Subject: Re: shift handle
  > 
  > 
  > > I have one out of my 72 convertable, since i'm swapping it to a dual gate
  > one day if I could find
  > > the correct mounting brackets
  > > Ron
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: "Christopher Brown" <Olds-Supreme72@hawaii.rr.com>
  > > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:57 AM
  > > Subject: shift handle
  > >
  > >
  > > > Does anyone happen to have a 72 or compatible shifter handle for a
  > Cutlass
  > > > Supreme with auto and console?  Mine seems to have broken in half.
  > > >
  > > > Thanks
  > > > Chris Brown
  > > >
  > > >
  > >
  > >
  > 

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:07:03 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: shift handle

  thanks
  ron----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Joe Gutierrez" <joe_gut@ix.netcom.com>
  To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:53 PM
  Subject: Re: shift handle


  > Ron,
  > 
  > The Parts Place sells the mounting brackets along with tons of stuff you
  > can't get elsewhere.  I've bought my dual gate brackets and other items from
  > them several times with great results.
  > 
  > thepartsplaceinc.com
  > 
  > Hard to use catalog but good parts.
  > 
  > Joe Gutierrez
  > Ft. Lauderdale FL
  > 71 442 conv't
  > 72 Hurst/Olds ht
  > 2002 Corvette Conv't
  > 
  > 
  > > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:51:31 -0500
  > > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
  > > Subject: Re: shift handle
  > 
  > > I have one out of my 72 convertable, since i'm swapping it to a dual gate
  > one > > day if I could find
  > > the correct mounting brackets
  > > Ron
  > 
  > 

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:07:48 -0500
From: Larry <kajrav@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: 1969 option codes

Gerow, Daniel R. wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
>  A gentlemen recently contacted me with some questions regarding option
> codes "PL5" and "Y64" for 1969 Olds A bodies.  He needs to know what these
> codes are and why it's so difficult to locate any info on them.

   Is the interior gold?  It could possibly be a special order 
vinyl/cloth interior.

Larry

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:08:41 -0500
From: "Christian Sager" <chris.sager@cox.net>
Subject: Pushrods

Seems I have broken pushrod in my 403.  The engine only spins to 6K (rev
limited) and has double valve springs but nothing crazy.

The pushrod only had 1200 miles on it and was the fancy kind that's the
tube with the balls welded on the end.  

Anyone else have any weird experiences with pushrods like this?  Any
Advice?

Christian

P.S.  The pushrods are all custom length as this is a 403 SB with BB C
heads on it.

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:53:26 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Pushrods

Christian,

> The pushrod only had 1200 miles on it and was the fancy kind that's the
> tube with the balls welded on the end.
>
> Anyone else have any weird experiences with pushrods like this?  Any
> Advice?


I regret to say this, but that style of pushrod is *not* the fancy kind. A
pushrod with pivot balls welded onto the ends is a low-cost OEM design. The
good pushrods have ends that have a actual shank that goes inside the
pushrod tube. The ends are a press-on fit. The ends aren't going anywhere.
That's the only reliable way to get a long hardened end to run inside the
groove of a pushrod guide plate.

You may have used something like Crane's Energizer Performance Pushrods
http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&lvl=3&prt=97 , which are
inferior to Crane's Chromemoly Steel Pushrods
http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&lvl=3&prt=95 .

Look at http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Products/Pushrods/ and notice the
different types of ends for pushrods. The pressed in pushrod end is always
far superior to the welded ball, which can break off, just like what
happened to you.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:25:09 -0500
From: "Stephen Bicker" <sbicker@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: 67 442 Headliner trim retainer

Hi All,
I read this list all the time but have not posted in while. Most questions
are answered before I can help.
I am getting ready to finish installing the headliner in the 67 442 I am
finishing and ran into a snag. This car had no headliner in it when I bought
it 15 years ago. There must be a retainer strip of metal on the front top of
the windshield area and one around the back window area top and sides. This
strip is wear the finish moulding clips around (like a door edge guard clips
on a door) after the headliner is glued to it. I looked at my other 67 442
but with the headliner in place its hard to tell what it looks like. Does
anyone have a 66-67 2 dr hardtop parts car that they would be willing to
sell these parts and the retainers that hold them in place to me? I imagine
these parts don't go bad and don't know why they were removed other than the
roof was caved in pretty good at one time. I would really appreciate some
help on this. Thanks a lot
Steve Bicker
67 442
67 442 (project X)
70 442
70 Cutlass Race Car
73 442
http://66.67.15.102  My Web Page

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 16:40:11 -0500
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: [Fwd: great weekend]

- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: great weekend
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 16:39:40 -0500
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
To: toro list <thelist@toronado.net>

Hi all
    What a great weekend in southern Ohio! 70's lots of sun wonderful to
be outside. Well in the garage but the overhead doors are open. I worked
on my 80 most of the day. Installed a new choke houseing on the carb The
old one had been butchered and held together with sheet metal screws.
Choke setting was impossible. Goodbye AIR it sure is a lot nicer working
under the hood without all that unnecessary (imho)plumbing. Received and
installed new vertical weatherstrips (between the door glass and the 1/4
windows. The da*n carb is now flooding, must have disturbed the float
level Oh well I needed something to do next weekend anyway. By the way I
did change oil and filter twice in just under a thousand miles and it
seems to have cleaned things up really well. The oil on the dipstick now
looks like its just been changed instead of turning black almost
instantly. Got the speedo working on the 70 again. All in all just a
great day
Thing spring
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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