
oldsmobile-digest      Wednesday, April 28 2004      Volume 01 : Number 4871



Last Oldsmobile production Date 4/29/04 -RIP-
Oh, the Humility...
This just in... 68 442- not, and a GEM.
1974 CSM f/s
Re: Last Oldsmobile production Date 4/29/04 -RIP-
RE: Oh, the Humility...
CDP Olds Perf Engines???????
RE: lifter noise
Re: Last Olds!!!!!
Re: 72 455 Engine, exhaust manifold paint and fasteners advice
Re: 330 Olds heads
lifter noise, 1950 V8
RE: lifter noise
Re: Oh, the Humility...
Re: lifter noise, 1950 V8
1970 Cutlass passenger side mirror
Launching a 58 pic.
Re: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????
Where to buy Hotchkiss?
urgent request: AC Delco fuel pump part #
Re: urgent request: AC Delco fuel pump part #
RE: 72 455 Engine, exhaust manifold paint and fasteners advice
RE: Where to buy Hotchkiss?
sending unit
Worst Buy: Harbor Freight $80 24V Cordless Impact
Re: sending unit
Re: Oh, the Humility...
RE: Worst Buy: Harbor Freight $80 24V Cordless Impact
1970 Cutlass Headlight Buckets?
Paintless Dent Repair
Re: Paintless Dent Repair
Re: Last Olds!!!!!
paintless dent removal
Appropriate thing to happen 1 day before Olds is history
Re: Oldsmobile SSll and SSlll
Re: Paintless Dent Repair
Overhaulin'
Re: Overhaulin'

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:48:40 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Last Oldsmobile production Date 4/29/04 -RIP-

Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:02:09 -0400
From: "James Savnik" <j.savnik@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Last Oldsmobile production Date

FYI
The last Oldsmobile to be built is scheduled to be on Thursday April 29,
2004 at the Lansing assembly plant. It will be a Final Edition Alero, to be
donated to the REO Museum.
===================
Huhm
Wonder if there's any chance that we local folks who have time can stop by 
and watch it die?
Any sort of ceremony or anything?
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:06:05 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Oh, the Humility...

Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:14:10 -0700
From: "Karl Sup" <droldslives@hotmail.com>
Subject: Oh, the Humility...

Why, oh why, must people put Chevy engines in perfectly good 1984 Cutlasses?
And they wonder why drugs and alcohol impair reason? :-) Check it out...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2475938394&category=6405

If the link doesn't work, it's EBay Item 2475938394

Karl Sup
Mesa, AZ
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That's the second most ridiculous use of a Cutlass I have ever seen. 
Stylin'... I guess. Rides... like shit. Oh, and a CHEVY 350 engine, gosh 
however did they find one of THEM? Whew! That's hella-rare! That must put 
out over 400 HP [smaller Type C horses, though].  Nice end-of-era Olds logos 
in the rear seat upholstery. Now, where's the early 1900's fancy crest Olds 
Logo? Any rockets? Blowtie emblem under the hood? Proud of that? Oy.
- -----------------------
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:14:26 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: This just in... 68 442- not, and a GEM.

So, I go to view a "1968 442" that's in the paper. No trans, buckets gone, 
console gone.. etc.
Post coupe
has "a motor"

It's out a ways.
CONVENIENTLY nearby a 69 Vista I been trying to get for a year or three now.
Get there to find fender says "442" - VIN says "Cutlass"
Body tag says "MIA"
R. Bumper says "Cutlass"
C-type 2.73 open diff says "Canadian 350-2bbl car"

I decide to buy a pile of parts.
Taillites all broken
I grab wheel trims, switches, window cranks, whatever's loose or comes off 
easy.

Turns out not much more painful to buy the whole car. So, I do.
LF fender OK, has numerals, might be correct even.
Post doors super-nice, who but me has one?
windshield OK. Dash pad OK, dash plastic CUT for radio :-(
Hokey work everywhere. Chrome in a can all over varous parts.

Oh, has tilt steering [column shift, no shift lever]
No steering wheel at all. Aftermarket adapter on the stub.
MANUAL drum brakes
Black plastic fender liners though

Stripping it for parts.
Hood is there, rusty underside though.
Oh, the engine that it comes with... 1974 smogger 350, half rebuilt.

The gem?
That engine's oil fill tube
Stamped 4xxx442

How cool, I finally found the Oil Fill Tube stamped "...442"
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Chris Witt
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:15:50 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: 1974 CSM f/s

so, no one needs the 1974 version of the Chassis Service Manual?

Info pretty much the same for 1973 thru 1976. Engine info all identical.
Wiring similar.
Good condition.
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Chris Witt
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:14:39 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Last Oldsmobile production Date 4/29/04 -RIP-

At 09:48 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>FYI
>The last Oldsmobile to be built is scheduled to be on Thursday April 29,
>2004 at the Lansing assembly plant. It will be a Final Edition Alero, to be
>donated to the REO Museum.
>===================
>Huhm
>Wonder if there's any chance that we local folks who have time can stop by 
>and watch it die?

What are you, morbid or sumpin???  ;o\  ;o\  ;o\

SteveH

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:20:55 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Oh, the Humility...

I especially liked the 6x9s casually perched on the package tray.

What does "3 flip" mean?

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:38:45 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????

Anybody ever hear of "CDP" OLDSMOBILE PERFORMANCE ENGINES in Columbia,
Connecticut?? Web site's at
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatalog/oldsmobilengines.html

Thanks,
SteveH

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:00:49 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: RE: lifter noise

If your engine is in good condition and has had oil changes on a proper 
schedule, you probably have some dirt in a lifter.  At worst you have a 
collapsed lifter.  I would change oil and use 1 quart can of Rislone with 
the oil.  It will clean up the lifters is that is the problem.  If not, 
time to replace the lifter or all the lifters, depending on overall engine 
condition.

Joe Varley
      AZ

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:03:54 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Last Olds!!!!!

Thanks for the link to the Lansing Journal.

One of the local papers came by today and wrote an article on my thoughts 
on the demise of Olds.  They took pictures of me with the '67 C/S convert 
and the '98 Aurora with the   OLDS  license plates.  I'm sure that the 
article will make me sound like a doofus the way they edit , pick and 
choose what they want.

Joe Varley
       AZ

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:15:58 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 72 455 Engine, exhaust manifold paint and fasteners advice

I have all manner of engine fasteners, correctly marked heads, all the right 
stuff, now nice and clean too. And, sorta-organized at long last. Engine 
lifting U-bracket, crank keys, drilled oil gallery plugs, oil slingers, 
distributor hold downs, crank snout bolts, vacuum fittings, water necks, 
etc.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46098&item=2474131925&ssPageName=STRK:MESSO:IT

Please do not hesitate to call for your needs or email.

the xst bolt locks are available via GMpartsdirect.com for like $3.41 each? 
Use 3-4 per engine.
PN 399423

Stainless is better, but not "correct". Your call there.
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:19:00 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 330 Olds heads

From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
Subject: Re: 330 Olds heads

Hi Guys,
       I have a set of Olds heads, number 4's.  What does the number stamped
on the front mean?  It is: W531300G.  Thanks for any help you can give on 
this.
Steve D
=================
like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33617&item=2473294580&ssPageName=STRK:MESSO:IT

That's the engine application code
all set forth in the Chassis Service Manual
I believe the W.....G means 4bbl high compression version. The 531300 is 
that engine's sequential number, pretty useless now.
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Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:22:17 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: lifter noise, 1950 V8

Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:47:11 EDT
From: BPF920@aol.com
Subject: lifter noise

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I have a problem. I have a 1950 Olds  V8. Since my last oil change it has
developed a lifter noise. Is there an oil additive or something that will 
cure
this problem short of pulling the engine down.
=================
Maybe a rocker adjustment?
Replace worn rocker parts?
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 03:24:43 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: RE: lifter noise

At 08:00 PM 4/27/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>If your engine is in good condition and has had oil changes on a proper 
>schedule, you probably have some dirt in a lifter.  At worst you have a 
>collapsed lifter.  I would change oil and use 1 quart can of Rislone with 
>the oil.  It will clean up the lifters is that is the problem.  If not, 
>time to replace the lifter or all the lifters, depending on overall engine 
>condition.

The early generation of Olds V8s used rocker shafts that wore rather badly.
My granddad once was going to give me a '63 Dynamic 88 with a 394 but we
found it had quite a bit of noise from the rockers. Investigation revealed
both rocker shafts had grooves deeply worn where the rockers ride. I tried
finding other shafts from other 394s in Granddad's Yarde but finally had to
settle for a pair that still showed over 0.06" wear under some rockers. The
wear on the shafts in the car I was to drive home was much deeper under
several rockers, most of the way through the shaft.

For some reason, at the time, it never occurred to me to buy a NEW pair of
rocker arm shafts from a dealer; I bet they would have been less than $20
each and since that was in 1972, they were probably still available right
off the shelf, too  ;o(((((

SteveH

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:32:54 -0400
From: "Vertech" <vertech@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Oh, the Humility...

Hello list !

Hhmmm, lookin'  at his Cutty's colors suddenly reminds me we're only a month
away from fishin' season in Quebec...


The car... : http://i17.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/ba/55/a5_3.JPG

And a lure... :
http://www.mepps.com/mepps/library/lures/productinfo.asp?ID=510&Origin=Lures
&Uniq=537


After all,   **MAYBE**   he has good taste ;-))))   !!


Keep on list'in !


Yves Lafreniere
La Tuque, Quebec

'76 Delta 88   [455]

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:07:23 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: lifter noise, 1950 V8

At 11:22 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>I have a problem. I have a 1950 Olds  V8. Since my last oil change it has
>developed a lifter noise. Is there an oil additive or something that will 
>cure
>this problem short of pulling the engine down.
>=================
>Maybe a rocker adjustment?

No rocker adjustment, IIRC... at least, not on the '60s 394s I played with
but possibly, I spose, on the early '50s 303.

>Replace worn rocker parts?

That's what I suspect.

SteveH

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 01:01:45 EDT
From: Roncutlass@aol.com
Subject: 1970 Cutlass passenger side mirror

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I am finally ready to install my rally mirrors on my 70 ragtop.  It has never 
had a passenger mirror and has a standard chrome drivers side mirror.  I 
think I read notes last year on the digest that the passenger was mounted a little 
furthur forward or back than the drivers side?  Anyone have any measurements? 
 If you could e-mail me at roncutlass@aol, that would be real helpful.

PS, I recently got some great advice, pictures and manuals from you guys on 
installing power windows.  This list is a great bunch of Olds guys.  Thanks,   
Ron


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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 01:49:05 -0400
From: Cutlass7276@netscape.net (Randy Hermsen)
Subject: Launching a 58 pic.

Hello
 http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1084542799804_0427_001.jpg 
Best time so far ..
15.87 @ 86.34 and thats Deep Staging!
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:36:24 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????

IIRC Steve, you live in eastern NH? CDP is about 130 miles from me. I live
in western NH near VT. I was looking through thier website,  and thier HP
looks rather exspensive.
Pat Swanton.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Harrison" <k0xp@dandy.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: CDP Olds Perf Engines???????


> Anybody ever hear of "CDP" OLDSMOBILE PERFORMANCE ENGINES in Columbia,
> Connecticut?? Web site's at
> http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatalog/oldsmobilengines.html
>
> Thanks,
> SteveH
>
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:52:45 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Where to buy Hotchkiss?

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I want to buy some adjustable upper trailing arms for my Cutlass. Where's the 
best place to buy Hotchkiss products?

Jon Wessel

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:59:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: urgent request: AC Delco fuel pump part #

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Fellow Oldsmoholics,
Because I haven't planned accordingly, I'm now about to enter a quandry.  My W-31 engine is currently being assembled and one of the last few items I need to procure is the correct AC Delco fuel pump.  This morning I just called a local store that carries AC Delco, but they didn't have any listings prior to 1970.  Unfortunately, my original pump fuel is over at a friends and I may or may not be able to get to it tonight depending on his schedule.  Sooooo, what I'm wondering is if anyone has a parts book or knows the correct AC Delco part number for the fuel pump on a 1969 Cutlass S W-31.  It's a 350 4bbl obviously and it has a return line, so there are  3 connections because in essense it's using an a/c fuel pump.  I'm planning on making a few phone calls and also trying to search online but if anyone can help me out please cc me at grp442@yahoo.com as I'm on digest.  Thanks very much in advance.
 
Chris Smetana
grp442@yahoo.com
1969 W-31
1970 F-85
1969 442  parts car
1970 F-85 parts car
plus a whole mess of parts for sale

		
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<DIV>Because I&nbsp;haven't planned accordingly, I'm now about to enter a quandry.&nbsp; My W-31 engine is currently being assembled and one of the last few&nbsp;items I need to procure is the correct AC Delco fuel pump.&nbsp; This morning I just called a local store that carries AC Delco, but they didn't have any listings prior to 1970.&nbsp; Unfortunately, my original pump fuel is over at a friends and I may or may not be able to get to it tonight depending on his schedule.&nbsp; Sooooo, what I'm wondering is if anyone has a parts book or knows the correct AC Delco part number for the fuel pump on a 1969 Cutlass S W-31.&nbsp; It's a 350 4bbl&nbsp;obviously and it has a return line, so there are&nbsp; 3 connections because in essense it's using an a/c fuel pump.&nbsp; I'm planning on making a few phone calls and also trying to search online but if anyone can help me out please cc me at <A href="mailto:grp442@yahoo.com">grp442@yahoo.com</A> as I'm on digest.&nbsp; Thanks very much in
 advance.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Chris Smetana</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:grp442@yahoo.com">grp442@yahoo.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>1969 W-31</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85</DIV>
<DIV>1969 442&nbsp; parts car</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85 parts car</DIV>
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:09:30 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: urgent request: AC Delco fuel pump part #

Chris, maybe this will help you. Good luck!
Pat Swanton.

http://www.acdelco.com/html/catalog/index_auto.htm
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "chris smetana" <grp442@yahoo.com>
To: "oldslist" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: urgent request: AC Delco fuel pump part #


> Fellow Oldsmoholics,
> Because I haven't planned accordingly, I'm now about to enter a quandry.
My W-31 engine is currently being assembled and one of the last few items I
need to procure is the correct AC Delco fuel pump.  This morning I just
called a local store that carries AC Delco, but they didn't have any
listings prior to 1970.  Unfortunately, my original pump fuel is over at a
friends and I may or may not be able to get to it tonight depending on his
schedule.  Sooooo, what I'm wondering is if anyone has a parts book or knows
the correct AC Delco part number for the fuel pump on a 1969 Cutlass S W-31.
It's a 350 4bbl obviously and it has a return line, so there are  3
connections because in essense it's using an a/c fuel pump.  I'm planning on
making a few phone calls and also trying to search online but if anyone can
help me out please cc me at grp442@yahoo.com as I'm on digest.  Thanks very
much in advance.
>
> Chris Smetana
> grp442@yahoo.com
> 1969 W-31
> 1970 F-85
> 1969 442  parts car
> 1970 F-85 parts car
> plus a whole mess of parts for sale
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:41:14 -0500
From: "Mike Schlottman" <mschlott@spe.org>
Subject: RE: 72 455 Engine, exhaust manifold paint and fasteners advice

Chris, who has stainless exhaust locks?  Are they the same design as the original?

    mike

Mike Schlottman
Sr. Systems Administrator
Society of Petroleum Engineers
222 Palisades Creek Drive 
Richardson, TX 75083
972-952-9382


 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Christopher Witt [mailto:rocketscience442@hotmail.com]
 > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:16 PM
 > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
 > Subject: Re: 72 455 Engine, exhaust manifold paint and 
 > fasteners advice
 > 
 > 
 > I have all manner of engine fasteners, correctly marked 
 > heads, all the right 
 > stuff, now nice and clean too. And, sorta-organized at long 
 > last. Engine 
 > lifting U-bracket, crank keys, drilled oil gallery plugs, 
 > oil slingers, 
 > distributor hold downs, crank snout bolts, vacuum fittings, 
 > water necks, 
 > etc.
 > 
 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&cate
gory=46098&item=2474131925&ssPageName=STRK:MESSO:IT

Please do not hesitate to call for your needs or email.

the xst bolt locks are available via GMpartsdirect.com for like $3.41 each? 
Use 3-4 per engine.
PN 399423

Stainless is better, but not "correct". Your call there.
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:39:08 -0400
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
Subject: RE: Where to buy Hotchkiss?

>From: Jon442@aol.com
>
>I want to buy some adjustable upper trailing arms for my Cutlass. Where's
the best place to buy 
>Hotchkiss products?

How about http://www.hotchkis.net ?

They *just* revamped their website (much better than before) and you can
actually purchase products directly from the site now.  Their "find a
dealer" page is not yet complete or functional.

 ~ Dan

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'70 W-31 4spd post
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.oldsrocket.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:53:10 -0700
From: "Mike Morrissey" <oxfarm@oregontrail.net>
Subject: sending unit

Hiya, folks!
    I think there has been some discussion of this in the past, but I guess
i wasn't paying attention...
    My '69 442 ragtop was leaking gas from the top of the tank, so I pulled
the tank to have a look. It appeared to be loose hose connections, so I
tightened them (two tubes), and when I went to replace the sending unit
wire, I found that I had uprooted the connection from the unit. OOops! So,
now I need a sending unit. And the leak continues.Must be the gasket.
    I'm having a hard time finding a sender that is both affordable and
available. One source wanted $240, and Year One wants $159, while Brothers
is only $149.99... I also found a coupla places that sell 'em for $59, but
they're backordered.
    Can anyone help me? I'd prefer to save the big money for a top! Thanks
in advance,
Mike in Baker City, Oregon
'98 intrigue
''72 suburban
'69 442 ragged-top
'69 vista "Vista-Carouser"
and the rest of the "Obsolete Fleet"

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:07:00 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Worst Buy: Harbor Freight $80 24V Cordless Impact

I knew it had to be a pc of crap.
Had to try it anyhow.
Saw a Snap-on unit remove lug nuts lickety split one day, man, that's cool
Saw guy dismantling transes at the scrap yard one day with one. Worked 
great.
How nice it would be to be able to remove PS pulleys in the field, leave the 
pump on the car.

On sale, too, not $100, only $80
Bring it home, charge it the recommended 1.5 hours.
Pull trigger, it goes.
OK, test it... dang, no PS pumps with nut handy
Aha, alternator!
Get 15/16 socket on tool, apply to nut, hold fan with gloved hand, pull 
trigger...

NOTHING. Motor attempts to spin, but does not. Hardly any tork.
Pull tool off, spins freely in the air.
Grab socket, easily stops the socket with no trouble. No chance of damage to 
hand.
What a wimpy pc of CRAP
I just knew it was gonna be a copy of a copy
Looks the same outside, but parts inside just do not do what they should
Just like a no-name air impact.
Might spin, might make noise, DOES NOT ACTUALLY LOOSEN anything.
This wuss tool could not even remove a spark plug, on its best day.

Back to the store it went.
If any of y'all are considering trying it, save yourself the time.
Now, where to get an affordable one that _works_?
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:22:14 -0400
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: sending unit

  Hey Mike,
   did you try www.InLineTube.com   ???
john 
67 cutlass surpreme

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:35:07 -0400
From: robert.demuth@prudential.com
Subject: Re: Oh, the Humility...

Scott A. wrote:

"The wheels and paint look like ass, too (even worse than the
22" wheels from the "rollin' in my Cutty" thread a while back)."

LOL!  I was gonna write in with something along those lines ... I was the
one who took the pictures and started the "rollin'" thread.  The car I saw
can't hold a candle to this eBay monstrosity, although it still takes the
prize for "bling bling rims on a s-itty car."
(http://www.geocities.com/rld96bbb/daytona04) ... the thing had rust
bubbling out all over it.  Although horrifically garish, the eBay car looks
as though it's had some serious coin distastefully plowed into it, not just
a few grand worth of rims slapped on it.

Bob DeMuth.
'72 88 conv.
some other stuff

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:42:24 -0400
From: "Eric Holcombe" <eholcombe@engineeringservicesgroup.com>
Subject: RE: Worst Buy: Harbor Freight $80 24V Cordless Impact

<Back to the store it went.
<If any of y'all are considering trying it, save yourself the time.
<Now, where to get an affordable one that _works_?

You already know this but, when it comes to power tools, you usually get what you pay for. Harbor Freight does usually have enough info on the packaging (FLA, torque, etc.) that you can see how wimpy the stuff is compared to say a Milwaukee or DeWalt "equivalent".

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:19:43 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: mitzm@earthlink.net
Subject: 1970 Cutlass Headlight Buckets?

My right headlight bucket assembly is all screwed up from a long ago accident (before I got the car).     The adjusters are broken and the stainless retainer ring has ears broken off and some of the self tapping screws  I've got it sort of jury rigged to work and look OK but I'm in the market for a replacement.     This is the part from the headlights back to the radiator supports tha incorporates the adjusters and the headlight retainer rings.  A couple of questions.

Are 71,72 the same as 70?   Maybe 69?  Are Buick Skylarks of the era possibly the the same?   Seems like others ought to interchange.   I want to bump up my probability of finding it in the pick-a-parts.

What would this part be called on ebay, should I need to go that way?

Anybody got one they'd like to part with?

Thanks,  Hans

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:24:31 -0500
From: "kc" <clemke@email.toast.net>
Subject: Paintless Dent Repair

Hello

I've found this mailing list to be extremely informative, although my car
doesn't come close to being the vintage or classic status of the vehicles
usually discussed here (it's a 1995 Cutlass Supreme convertible).

However, I was wondering if I could tap into your collective experience. I'd
like to know if any of you have had any experience having paintless dent
repairs made. If so, were you happy with the results? The above mentioned
car has a few dents and dings that I would like to have fixed.

Our town has both Dent Wizard and Dent Doctor franchises. Both gave me
pretty much the same quote. So, all things being equal, I'm just curious if
the process yields the wonderful quality repairs that the advertising claims
it does.

Kenn

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:32:18 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paintless Dent Repair

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The paintless dent repair is pretty amazing stuff. The biggest qualifier is 
that the paint can't be broken or cracked. If not, a good dent man should be 
able to take out most any dent. Dents on body lines are tough, though. Call 
around to the new car dealerships and see who they use. That should give you an 
idea of who does quality work.

Jon Wessel

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:38:14 -0400
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: Re: Last Olds!!!!!

ftfunnyfarm wrote:

> I'm in the Lansing area and they are running some articles about that end of
> Oldsmobile...I'm planning on buying the paper the next few days to keep
> those articles.
> 
> I'm sure if anyone wanted to read them they would be at www.lsj.com
> But not real sure as I havent tried yet to see if they are online.
> 
> It's a very sad week.....but am glad I have a piece of the history...in more
> ways than one!
> 
> Tami
> 
> 
> 
> 
Tami
     Thanks for the link. Everyone (even those of us on dial-up) should 
take a few minutes and check out the photo gallery
thanks again
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:42:14 -0400
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: paintless dent removal

Snip--I'm just curious if the process yields the wonderful quality 
repairs that the advertising claims it does.

Kenn
    I have no personal experience to share with you on this but I have a 
good friend who is the used car manager for a local dealership and they 
use it all the time. Ask around the lots in your area and you should be 
able to see some finished products.
LOL
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:49:24 +0000
From: brad442@comcast.net
Subject: Appropriate thing to happen 1 day before Olds is history

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/3246722/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265806&dppid=68701

It looked like a clean Eighty-Eight (note rims in photos)

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:25:30 -0500
From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile SSll and SSlll

Man, if they would just make those in 16" or 17"... 15 x 10 is nice,  
though.

krw
On Apr 26, 2004, at 10:24 PM, oldsmobile-digest wrote:

> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:32:44 -0400
> From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
> Subject: Oldsmobile SSll and SSlll
>
> There has been a lot of threads about Olds SSll and SSlll wheels  
> lately. I
> just thought I'd add this link.
>
> http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp? 
> itemType=PRODUCT&R
> S=1&itemID=9171&keyword=62152
> Pat Swanton.
>
On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...

Kevin Wright                                          
krwright@sbcglobal.net
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                              
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/70Olds.html

'71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans:  
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/71_cutlass.html

Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31!  
And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :)
...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be  
parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:25:24 -0400
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paintless Dent Repair

Hey Ken

I have a great friend that owns a Paintless Dent business.  I have had him remove some dings from my 1968 Hurst/Olds and he did an excellent job.

I did autobody professionally for 10 years  and I cannot tell where the dents were.

I would caution you though,    large dents will not come out.   Also   I would want to see him actually remove a debt from someone elses car BEFORE you let him do yours.  Experience in Paintless Dent removal  will be what matters.  See how many years he has been doing this work.

Vinny
1968 Hurst/Olds

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:53:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Overhaulin'

Anyone see this series on TLC last night? I have mixed feelings. The
subject was a '71 Ch*velle. Chip Foose & co. took a pretty ordinary car
and in 7 days turned it into a mild custom with the help of a lot of $$$.
I liked some of what they did, but other things made me wonder how I'd
react if that happened to my car. In the end I suppose I could just sell
it and buy something else...

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:02:50 EDT
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Overhaulin'

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I thought the Chebby turned out awesome, but I know what you're saying. It 
might almost feel as if you had been violated in some way, like getting your 
house broken into. At least it looks like Foose & Co. do quality work, unlike 
some of the other shows I have seen. I'm looking forward to see the Elky next 
week.

Jon Wessel

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