
oldsmobile-digest        Friday, March 5 2004        Volume 01 : Number 4804



A 2-5/8" gauge bracket
Bracket URL
Re: squeeky belts
Re: Front Lower Control Arms
Re: Motor mounts
Re: Mass. Emissions [getting way OT]
Re: Front Lower Control Arms
Re: Cloyes hex adjust chain
Re: Mass. Emissions [getting way OT]
Re: joke parts site
Re: Motor mounts
Re: Front Lower Control Arms
Re: Mr. Gasket Intake Gasket Numbers, Questions
Re: Motor mounts
Re: Mr. Gasket Intake Gasket Numbers, Questions
69 442 W-30 Water Pump casting #'s???
RE: Motor mounts
Re: Cloyes hex adjust chain
Re: Front Lower Control Arms
Re: Mr. Gasket Intake Gasket Numbers, Questions
Re: Motor mounts
Re: Mass. Emissions [getting way OT]
ADMIN: UNBOUNCING posts, etc.
Re: small to big block swap plus header confusion
Tri-Power more fuel efficient?
RE: 69 442 W-30 Water Pump casting #'s???
Re: Cloyes hex adjust chain
Re: Tri-Power more fuel efficient?
Wanted:  '69 Ragtop

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:56:17 -0600
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: A 2-5/8" gauge bracket

All,
	A little while ago, I wrote about creating a bracket to hold my (4)
gauges.  I created some extras at work, and have a few to sell if anyone is
interested.
	I'm working on uploading the pix to my web page now, but the damn
software is locking up.  So if you would like to see (2) pix of the BRKT,
drop me a note.


Steve Reed 
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice 
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode) 
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine) 
Austin, TX 
http://www.sreed.0catch.com/html/cars.html

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:42:48 -0600
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: Bracket URL

All,
	Here is the URL of the BRKT I wrote about earlier.

http://www.sreed.0catch.com/html/for_sale.html

Steve Reed 
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice 
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode) 
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine) 
Austin, TX 
http://www.sreed.0catch.com/html/cars.html

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:53:52 EST
From: Flipx99@wmconnect.com
Subject: Re: squeeky belts

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I do have the 307. But the thing is, it doesn't squeak all the time. Just 
randomly and then for only 20 seconds tops. It doesn't squeak when I drive down 
the road. Although I do think it may have something to do with tighten the P/S 
pump belt. I do notice slight sqeak after several consecutive turns.

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lthough I do think it may have something to do with tighten the P/S pump bel=
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:15:36 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Front Lower Control Arms

> will arms from 64-72 Chevelles, El Camino's... fit my '71 Cutlass Supreme?


Yes.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:17:38 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Motor mounts

Sealed Power.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


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To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 5:24 PM
Subject: Motor mounts


> List
> I'm in need of a pair of motor mounts for my '70 Cutlass Supreme w/ a 455.
> Can anyone tell me who or where to get them from please.
> Thank you
> Leigh Tenenholtz
>

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:47:23 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Mass. Emissions [getting way OT]

On a previous post, a Lister stated that NJ emission tested cars from 1984
and up. Intuitively, that makes since, due to the winter salt damage that
eats up cars. I'd wager there are a great many more pre-'84 cars running
around Arizona than NJ. That's the stupid rational members of our
legislature give for testing everything from '67 and up.

Today, I had the emissions test done on our '97 Pontiac Trans Sport. On the
flip side, it's really a joke. The test really does nothing, for anyone with
a tenth of a brain can circumvent the test. All the test does is check for
fault codes in the onboard computer. If an engine fault code shows up, the
vehicle automatically fails the emissions test, without a tailpipe test
being run. Then the owner must take the vehicle to a repair shop to be
fixed, or fix it himself, if he has the knowledge.

For our Trans Sport, it was a stupid test. She has had 2 instances of the
"Check Engine Soon" light come on. The first time, I dropped by Myers Garage
and roger checked the codes. I had a misfire on cylinder #3 for some unknown
reason. Roger reset the computer history. 6 days ago, the same thing
happened. I stopped by and had Roger recheck the history. Cylinder #3 puked
again. He then reset the history. We're guessing I have either a dirty
injector, a bad plug, a bad plug wire, there's a TSB out on carbon buildup
on the backside of the intakes on 3.4 V6s which could be it with a piece of
carbon stopping the intake from closing once or twice, dirt in a lifter, or
maybe a couple of other things. We know it's not a coil, for one coil fires
2 cylinders, and only one cylinder had a misfire, at least as per the
onboard computer.

The point is, Roger reset the computer history. When I had the emissions
test today, I passed, because the computer history was clean. Anybody could
have done that to their '97 and later vehicle, and no one would be the
wiser. What a joke.

On the one hand, Arizona penalizes '67 to '80 vehicles with an emissions
test for a small minority of Arizona registered vehicles, and on the other
hand, Arizona runs a really stupid emission inspection for '97 and later
vehicles. What a bunch of Maroons, as Bunny from Brooklyn would say.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 05:32:44 EST
From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
Subject: Re: Front Lower Control Arms

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In a message dated 3/4/04 4:56:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, ChazToone@aol.com
 writes:

> Does anyone know the part numbers for both front lower control arms?  Also, 
> 
> will arms from 64-72 Chevelles, El Camino's... fit my '71 Cutlass Supreme?

Hi Charlie,
      Don't have the book here at work, but I can look up the GM Part Numbers 
for you when I get home tonight.  I'm pretty sure that any GM A body from at 
least 68-72 can provide you with the same control arm that you have on your 71 
Supreme.  I can check that as well and let you know for sure tonight.
Steve D

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=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 3/4/04 4:56:17 P=
M Pacific Standard Time, ChazToone@aol.com<BR>
 writes:<BR>
<BR>
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Hi Charlie,<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Don't have the book here at work, but I can l=
ook up the GM Part Numbers for you when I get home tonight.&nbsp; I'm pretty=
 sure that any GM A body from at least 68-72 can provide you with the same c=
ontrol arm that you have on your 71 Supreme.&nbsp; I can check that as well=20=
and let you know for sure tonight.<BR>
Steve D</FONT></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:13:28 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cloyes hex adjust chain

I used one of these years ago and upon cam break in the dowel pin sheared off 
the cam - spun the cam - bent 4 valves . 

Although I must say the design worked flawlessly on the engine stand to 
degree the cam in 1 degree increments. - I for one would never use one again for 
that experience. 

I'd rather go with the offset bushings or get a better chain set with 
multiple adjustment on crank gear.

Just voice of experience speaking 

Rgds
Rob Thomas

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:35:03 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Mass. Emissions [getting way OT]

ACTUALLY ANY CAR  ANY YEAR WITH REGURLAR REGISTRATION GETS A EMSSION TEST.
1980 AND UP GO ON THE DYNO. 97 AND UP GET THE OBDII PLUG IN TEST  SIMPLT BECAUSE THE OBDII CARS MONITER ALL SYSTEMS,INCLUDEING THE EXHAUST BASED ON THE SWITCHING RATE OF PRE AND POST CAT O2'S THE SOFT WAREW SAYS ITS GOOD TO GO.
 ON YOURE VAN CHECK FOR AIT LEAKS AS WELL. ALSO COIL PACK. I HAD ONE THAT ONLY FIRED ONE SIDE OF THE PACK
IF ITS A LEAKING INJECTOR MONITER YOURE O2 READINGS AND INJECTOR PULS WIDTH ,BLOCK LEARN AND INTERGRATOR FOR FUEL TRIM VALUES.
RON  
> On a previous post, a Lister stated that NJ emission tested cars from 1984
> and up. Intuitively, that makes since, due to the winter salt damage that
> eats up cars. I'd wager there are a great many more pre-'84 cars running
> around Arizona than NJ. That's the stupid rational members of our
> legislature give for testing everything from '67 and up.
> 
> Today, I had the emissions test done on our '97 Pontiac Trans Sport. On the
> flip side, it's really a joke. The test really does nothing, for anyone with
> a tenth of a brain can circumvent the test. All the test does is check for
> fault codes in the onboard computer. If an engine fault code shows up, the
> vehicle automatically fails the emissions test, without a tailpipe test
> being run. Then the owner must take the vehicle to a repair shop to be
> fixed, or fix it himself, if he has the knowledge.
> 
> For our Trans Sport, it was a stupid test. She has had 2 instances of the
> "Check Engine Soon" light come on. The first time, I dropped by Myers Garage
> and roger checked the codes. I had a misfire on cylinder #3 for some unknown
> reason. Roger reset the computer history. 6 days ago, the same thing
> happened. I stopped by and had Roger recheck the history. Cylinder #3 puked
> again. He then reset the history. We're guessing I have either a dirty
> injector, a bad plug, a bad plug wire, there's a TSB out on carbon buildup
> on the backside of the intakes on 3.4 V6s which could be it with a piece of
> carbon stopping the intake from closing once or twice, dirt in a lifter, or
> maybe a couple of other things. We know it's not a coil, for one coil fires
> 2 cylinders, and only one cylinder had a misfire, at least as per the
> onboard computer.
> 
> The point is, Roger reset the computer history. When I had the emissions
> test today, I passed, because the computer history was clean. Anybody could
> have done that to their '97 and later vehicle, and no one would be the
> wiser. What a joke.
> 
> On the one hand, Arizona penalizes '67 to '80 vehicles with an emissions
> test for a small minority of Arizona registered vehicles, and on the other
> hand, Arizona runs a really stupid emission inspection for '97 and later
> vehicles. What a bunch of Maroons, as Bunny from Brooklyn would say.
> 
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:34:08 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: joke parts site

>>Does anybody remember the URL of that phony parts site that lists things 
>>like Knutson valves and other mythical parts?
>
>Must be this one
>http://www.kalecoauto.com/
>Although that stuff's all real, isn't it???  LOL :-)

That's brilliant...  :-)  But whatever you do, don't select the "Stuff" link 
on the left. Apparently it leads to a CaféPress.com merchandising account 
that's now expired, and for some reason the CaféPress.com error page is a 
complete tarpit; it won't let you back out no matter what.

Otherwise, yes, great site!

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:33:46 -0800 (PST)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Motor mounts

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List
I'm in need of a pair of motor mounts for my '70 Cutlass Supreme w/ a 
455.
Can anyone tell me who or where to get them from please. 
Thank you
Leigh Tenenholtz
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Leigh,
I don't see why you can't get them at your local auto parts store or online (rockauto, oldcarnetwork to name a couple).  If you can't find them there, let me know as I should be able to get you a pair of new ones.
 
Chris
grp442@yahoo.com


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<DIV>List<BR>I'm in need of a pair of motor mounts for my '70 Cutlass Supreme w/ a <BR>455.<BR>Can anyone tell me who or where to get them from please. <BR>Thank you<BR>Leigh Tenenholtz<BR>-------------------------</DIV>
<DIV>Leigh,</DIV>
<DIV>I don't see why you can't get them at your local auto parts store or online (rockauto, oldcarnetwork to name a couple).&nbsp; If you can't find them there, let me know as I&nbsp;should be able to&nbsp;get you a pair of new ones.</DIV>
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:39:39 -0800 (PST)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Front Lower Control Arms

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Does anyone know the part numbers for both front lower control arms?  
Also, 
will arms from 64-72 Chevelles, El Camino's... fit my '71 Cutlass 
Supreme?

Thanks,

Charlie Toone
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Charlie,
Sorry, I don't have the part numbers, but 64-67 A-body interchange (pretty sure but some 64 and 65 may be different or I'm thinking of uppers) and 68-72 A-body interchange (very sure).  I've got a pair of lowers from a 71 LeMans that will work if you are looking for some.  I can even rebuild them with brand new MOOG rubber bushings and ball joints and either paint them or get them powdercoated.  Hit me privately if interested.  I'm currently rebuilding a pair of uppers and lowers from a 66 if anyone is interested.
 
Chris
grp442@yahoo.com


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<DIV>Does anyone know the part numbers for both front lower control arms?&nbsp; <BR>Also, <BR>will arms from 64-72 Chevelles, El Camino's... fit my '71 Cutlass <BR>Supreme?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Charlie Toone<BR>--------------------------</DIV>
<DIV>Charlie,</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry, I don't have the part numbers, but 64-67 A-body interchange (pretty sure but some 64 and 65 may be different or I'm thinking of uppers)&nbsp;and 68-72 A-body interchange (very sure).&nbsp; I've got a pair of lowers from a 71 LeMans that will work if you are looking for some.&nbsp; I can even rebuild them with brand new MOOG rubber bushings and ball joints and either paint them or get them powdercoated.&nbsp; Hit me privately if interested.&nbsp; I'm currently rebuilding a pair of uppers and lowers from a 66 if anyone is interested.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Chris</DIV>
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:09:58 EST
From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mr. Gasket Intake Gasket Numbers, Questions

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Hi Guys,
       Sorry to bring this up again, but I thought I filed the information 
the first time I saw it here on the List, and now, when I need it, I can't seem 
to be able to find it.  I need the part number for a Mr. Gasket intake 
manifold gasket.  Seem to remember that there are two available, is that correct?  I 
also need to know the part number for a guide plate for a 3/8 inch pushrod.  
These are going on my Edelbrock aluminum heads, if that makes any difference.  
I am also using a Port-O-Sonic aluminum intake.
Thanks,
Steve D

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=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Hi Guys,<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sorry to bring this up again, but I tho=
ught I filed the information the first time I saw it here on the List, and n=
ow, when I need it, I can't seem to be able to find it.&nbsp; I need the par=
t number for a Mr. Gasket intake manifold gasket.&nbsp; Seem to remember tha=
t there are two available, is that correct?&nbsp; I also need to know the pa=
rt number for a guide plate for a 3/8 inch pushrod.&nbsp; These are going on=
 my Edelbrock aluminum heads, if that makes any difference.&nbsp; I am also=20=
using a Port-O-Sonic aluminum intake.<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
Steve D</FONT></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:23:20 -0500
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: Motor mounts

   Milton,
    Sealed Power?
john 
67 cutlass supreme


> Sealed Power.
> 
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:35:33 -0500
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Mr. Gasket Intake Gasket Numbers, Questions

Does this help?
Pat.

http://www.mrgasket.com/Brands.aspx?BrandID=1



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From: <NUOLDSMAN@aol.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Mr. Gasket Intake Gasket Numbers, Questions


> Hi Guys,
>        Sorry to bring this up again, but I thought I filed the information
> the first time I saw it here on the List, and now, when I need it, I can't
seem
> to be able to find it.  I need the part number for a Mr. Gasket intake
> manifold gasket.  Seem to remember that there are two available, is that
correct?  I
> also need to know the part number for a guide plate for a 3/8 inch
pushrod.
> These are going on my Edelbrock aluminum heads, if that makes any
difference.
> I am also using a Port-O-Sonic aluminum intake.
> Thanks,
> Steve D
>

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:36:07 EST
From: James244@aol.com
Subject: 69 442 W-30 Water Pump casting #'s???

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I'm replacing the water pump on my car and I'm not sure if it still has the 
original one. The casting # is 404847 and seems to be about 6.5 inches tall, 
the car is a 4 spd with 4.33 gears and no a/c. Does anyone know the correct 
casting #'s for these cars? Would 68 & 69 share the same parts?


Thanks for your help!

James

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d seems to be about 6.5 inches tall, the car is a 4 spd with 4.33 gears and=20=
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:37:42 -0600
From: "Ian Dixon" <IDixon@sbrc.ca>
Subject: RE: Motor mounts

Good momo supplier. US made stuff.
Ian

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   Milton,
    Sealed Power?
john 
67 cutlass supreme


> Sealed Power.
> 
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:00:30 -0300
From: "Tour Op & Travel Agency Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net>
Subject: Re: Cloyes hex adjust chain

Rob,
Thanks for the bad news! Psia krew!
I will double check the dowel pin...
Matt

> I used one of these years ago and upon cam break in the dowel pin sheared
off
> the cam - spun the cam - bent 4 valves .
>
> Although I must say the design worked flawlessly on the engine stand to
> degree the cam in 1 degree increments. - I for one would never use one
again for
> that experience.
>
> I'd rather go with the offset bushings or get a better chain set with
> multiple adjustment on crank gear.
>
> Just voice of experience speaking
>
> Rgds
> Rob Thomas

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:41:34 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Front Lower Control Arms

Chris & Charlie,

> Sorry, I don't have the part numbers, but 64-67 A-body interchange (pretty
sure but some 64 and 65 may be different or I'm thinking of uppers)


Actually, all '64-'67 interchange, regardless. The difference you're
remembering is the '64 Olds A-body uses uppers with steel bushings, which
are nearly indestructable, and in '65, Olds switched the uppers to rubber to
lower cost. However, those steel bushing uppers from '64 are the same upper
arm and will fit **all** '64-'67 GM A-bodies, including the '64 Chevelles
that didn't use them (we all know Chevy is cheap, couldn't resist that).
Back before polyurethane suspension bushings existed, a pair of '64 steel
bushing uppers gave a GM A-body superior handling over equivalent rubber
bushing uppers. I'd wager the steel bushing uppers may be slightly more
effective than polyurethane and Dur-A-Lum.

Thunder still has her steel bushing upper control arms to go along with her
poly bushing lower control arms. Those steel bushings are 133,500 miles old
and are still as tight as when she left the factory. One just has to keep
them lubed through their grease fittings.


> and 68-72 A-body interchange (very sure).


Yes!


> I've got a pair of lowers from a 71 LeMans that will work if you are
looking for some.  I can even rebuild them with brand new MOOG rubber
bushings and ball joints and either paint them or get them powdercoated.
Hit me privately if interested.


Those would work fine for Charlie.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:59:43 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Mr. Gasket Intake Gasket Numbers, Questions

Steve,


> I need the part number for a Mr. Gasket intake
> manifold gasket.


Mr. Gasket Ultra Seal Premium Intake Gasket #5845 for small block.
Mr. Gasket Ultra Seal Premium Intake Gasket #5846 for big block.


> I also need to know the part number for a guide plate for a 3/8 inch
pushrod.


You can get them from Mondello (the best ones, believe it or not) or Comp
Cams. If memory serves correctly, the Comp Cams are only for 5/16" or 3/8"
studs while the Mondellos cover 5/16", 3/8", and 7/16" studs.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:03:30 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Motor mounts

Look for the Sealed Power brand at your neighborhood auto parts store. They
should still be American made. If not, they should at least be still made to
U.S. OEM quality specs.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


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From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Motor mounts


>    Milton,
>     Sealed Power?
> john
> 67 cutlass supreme
>
>
> > Sealed Power.
> >
> > Milton Schick
> > 1964 442 Cutlass
> > imp@theriver.com
>

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:16:10 -0600
From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Mass. Emissions [getting way OT]

On Mar 4, 2004, at 6:31 PM, oldsmobile-digest wrote:

> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 17:49:05 -0500 (EST)
> From: Stephen Amadei <amadei@dandy.net>
> Subject: Re: Mass. Emissions [getting way OT]
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Kevin Wright wrote:
>
>> The more I hear from y'all, the happier I am to be in Texas...
>
> You must not live near Galvaston... I heard the inspections there are
> strict, too.

Shouldn't be any more strict than the other metro areas of TX - 
Dallas/Ft.Worth (where I am), Houston, El Paso, etc.
But then, both of my drivers, a '79 RX-7 and the '70 Cutlass are now 
exempt, and my wife's 2000 Astro is unmodified, so what do I know? :)
I've certainly never heard of anyone in TX ever getting stopped by the 
cops or a ticket for anything emissions-related.
And I was referring more to the living conditions than vehicle 
inspection. I note, however, that MA's cutoff is 20 years, while TX's 
is 25 years... '79s just became exempt here.
>
>> How do you people stand to live in such expensive, crowded, 
>> restrictive
>> environments?
>
> Well, actually, I live in the geographic center of the North East
> Metropolitan area... just outside of the pine barrens (No, I am NOT a
> piney).  They aren't called barrens because they are crowded... and 
> it's
> not all that expensive.  Perhaps compared to Bupyong, Korea, but not in
> the US.  But we do get stuck with oppressive laws and inspections 
> because
> of the other end of Jersey.
>
> I'm not knocking other areas of the country (except Cali... ;-) ), 
> because
> they're nice to visit the great open spaces, but I can't imagine living
> 100 plus miles from a major city.
>
> Then again, one day it might get urban in the pines... and I'll have to
> find a better place.

I am urban - believe it or not, there are cities in TX! :D I'm right 
between Dallas and Ft, Worth in the aptly-named Mid Cities area. I can 
be in the country in about 30-45 minutes, though, if need be.
I'm sure it's nice up there in the pines in summer and spring, but I 
can't stand cold. 'S why I stay down here. Any further north and I 
start shivering... frankly, I'd rather be even further south during 
winter, though this year has been exceedingly mild. It's going to be 
60s this weekend!

> 					----Steve
> Stephen Amadei
> Dandy.NET!  CTO/CSO
> Atlantic City, NJ
On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...

Kevin Wright                                         
krwright@sbcglobal.net
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                             
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/70Olds.html

'71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans: 
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/71_cutlass.html

Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31! 
And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :)
...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be 
parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:45:22 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: UNBOUNCING posts, etc.

Recently the volume of spam I'm receiving at my mail address has become
unmanageable. Because this address has been around for 10 years and is all
over the net, I assume I'm on every spam list imaginable. The same holds
true for the oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca address. 

Because of that, I am simply not reading many messages that land in my
inbox. If your post to the list does not appear, assume it bounced due to
M*ME/HTML encoding since that is the reason 99% of the time. Similarly,
until this situation changes I likely will not be unbouncing non-member
posts. 

Sorry, but I'm amazed the net hasn't collapsed under the volume of junk
email if I'm any indication.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:56:59 -0600
From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: small to big block swap plus header confusion

I've seen some that managed to mangle this myth and claim that their 
headers won't fit Cutlass 'S' models.
Can't remember who that was...

krw
On Mar 4, 2004, at 6:31 PM, oldsmobile-digest wrote:

> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:58:55 -0500
> From: "Daniel R. Gerow" <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
> Subject: Re: small to big block swap plus header confusion
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> If I've learned *anything* from my time spent with these gentlemen 
> it's the
> good old "Cutlass Supreme has an offset engine" story.  I cannot 
> recall the
> chronicle of this wive's tale (perhaps someone could re-enlighten 
> me/us) but
> I know that no matter what header manufacturer you speak to, they will 
> tell
> you their products will not fit a Supreme model Olds because it has 
> some
> type of "offset" engine...riiiight.  It is indeed a farce to even 
> think this
> would be so.  Get yourself a decent set of headers and they will fit.
>
>   ~ Dan
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Daniel R. Gerow
> '70 W-31 Post 4spd
> dgerow@stonehill.edu
> http://www.oldsrocket.com
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...

Kevin Wright                                         
krwright@sbcglobal.net
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                             
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/70Olds.html

'71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans: 
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/71_cutlass.html

Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31! 
And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :)
...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be 
parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:47:35 -0800
From: Greg Tjosvold <tjosvold@polar7.com>
Subject: Tri-Power more fuel efficient?

I've always thought putting a tri-power set up (3x2) on my 56 Olds would be 
cool, but was afraid that it would use too much gas compared to my single 
four barrel. On a show I was watching earlier this week they said just the 
opposite is true. Is that right?

If I can get cool _and_ better gas mileage (especially in the city), I'm 
there! :-)

'Best,

Nanook

P.S. Should I be looking for an Offy manifold? I don't think tri-power was 
a factory option until '57 was it?

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:40:57 -0700
From: "Karl Sup" <droldslives@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: 69 442 W-30 Water Pump casting #'s???

James,

The correct water pump number to go along with your KA coded water pump 
pulley would be: 400268/400269/400289. I believe the real part number is 
400269, but due to casting deformities the number can look like anyone of 
the numbers I listed.

The KA pulley MUST be used with this water pump along with the KB crank 
pulley.

1968 and 1969 W30, W31 and H/O's (non-AC) used the same part number.

Best Regards,
Karl Sup
Mesa, AZ
69 H/O #89
69 W31 S Post (1 of 106)
62 Starfire Convertible *FOR SALE*


>From: James244@aol.com
>Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: 69 442 W-30 Water Pump casting #'s???
>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:36:07 EST
>
>I'm replacing the water pump on my car and I'm not sure if it still has the
>original one. The casting # is 404847 and seems to be about 6.5 inches 
>tall,
>the car is a 4 spd with 4.33 gears and no a/c. Does anyone know the correct
>casting #'s for these cars? Would 68 & 69 share the same parts?
>
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>James

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:09:16 EST
From: RPTW32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cloyes hex adjust chain

In a message dated 3/5/04 12:37:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
travelchile@manquehue.net writes:

<< 
 Rob,
 Thanks for the bad news! Psia krew!
 I will double check the dowel pin...
 Matt >>


Matt

you may be ok with this - from what I was told the one I had was the 
first design and they supposedly changed it somehow afterwards. I know the 
dowel pin was pretty long on the set I had and it just wasn't enough clamping 
force I guess on the center cam bolt to hold 

up to you - 

Rgds
Rob

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:27:01 -0800
From: Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.us>
Subject: Re: Tri-Power more fuel efficient?

On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 12:47:35PM -0800, Greg Tjosvold wrote:
> I've always thought putting a tri-power set up (3x2) on my 56 Olds would be 
> cool, but was afraid that it would use too much gas compared to my single 
> four barrel. On a show I was watching earlier this week they said just the 
> opposite is true. Is that right?

I picked up the Hemmings Book of Oldsmobiles recently:

http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/shop.detail/productid/491

The article on the '57 Fiesta with J-2 said that it got fairly decent
mileage in normal driving because normal driving would use only the center
carb.  In normal use, you'd get mileage comparable to a single 2-bbl carb. 
The extra carbs only opened up on WOT (or near-WOT).  

The owner of the car said the front and rear carbs tend to get gunked up
with varnish due to disuse, which ends up limiting the whole setup's
usefulness.

  _/_   Scott Alfter (scott at alfter dot usTRAPEZOID minus shape)
 / v \  '77 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
(IIGS(  http://alfter.us/
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:46:20 -0600
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: Wanted:  '69 Ragtop

Greetings all!
	I have met a friend at the body shop where I had my sheet metal work
done last year, who is looking to find a car from his younger days.
	He is looking for a straight bodied 1969 Olds Ragtop.  If anyone has
any leads on one, please drop me a note.  He is willing to get an out of
state car, and is looking for something with a straight body, but can have
no tranny or engine, or just need fixing up.

Thanks,


Steve Reed 
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice 
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop (In Reassembly mode) 
'68 Cutlass Supreme (Seized Engine) 
Austin, TX 
http://www.sreed.0catch.com/html/cars.html

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