
oldsmobile-digest         Friday, May 7 2004         Volume 01 : Number 4881



RE: looking for interior "post" trim
RE: Vent window cranks
Subject: 1970 442 - hood release cable assbly 
Re: New member to the stable, 1966 Dynamic 88 convertible
RE: Official Date of Last Olds Produced
Re: OldsmobileForums.com
RE: looking for interior "post" trim
Re: Anyone have access to AllData or Olds Tech Bulletins? (Intrigue)
Quick question, more freon fun...
RE: Anyone done [an intake manifold gasket] on a '96 Silhouette?
Re: Quick question, more freon fun...
Re: Quick question, more freon fun...
RE: Vent window cranks
Re: Vent window cranks
69 Rear marker bezels on evilbay
Re: 69 Rear marker bezels on evilbay
Re: 69 Rear marker bezels on evilbay

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Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 17:37:05 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: RE: looking for interior "post" trim

You could always try this '57 bmw. 
http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/bmw600.html
It has a front door (quite literally) and 1 door in the rear passenger side.

M

At 01:34 PM 5/6/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Saturn has a car with one door on one side and two on the other.
>
>John Nasta

Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 17:41:19 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: RE: Vent window cranks

I suspect that the 1040 Oldsmobiles are rather rare these days?  Or did 
they come with a SMW 403?

M

At 12:35 PM 5/5/2004 -0400, John Nasta wrote:
> From what I can tell, vent window regulators for GM from the 1040s to the
>1960s seem to always be specific to right or left side.

Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 22:49:46 EDT
From: Oldsparts@aol.com
Subject: Subject: 1970 442 - hood release cable assbly 

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I have a few of the cables with the interior release handles that are new for 
$95

Thanks
Steve
800-442-PART
Click on Http://Oldsparts.com/BAPcatalog.pdf  to get our latest catalog

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 07:21:34 -0400
From: "Dave Cullen" <david.cullen@snet.net>
Subject: Re: New member to the stable, 1966 Dynamic 88 convertible

Either 65 or 66 in the light blue color is one of the prettiest cars ever
made in my opinion. Such wonderful body lines. Congrats.

>  It has a
> 1971 Ga 455 engine, suppose to run.

Didn't they come with 425's?

drc

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 07:49:49 -0400 
From: Tom Bejma <tomcb@prplastics.com>
Subject: RE: Official Date of Last Olds Produced

Just missed it! :-(  It's in the archives now.

Did anyone save a copy and can you forward it to me?

Thanks,
Tom Bejma
Harrison Twp., MI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew C. Green [mailto:acg_o@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:03 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Official Date of Last Olds Produced
> 
> 
> >What was the date when the last Oldsmobile came off the 
> assembly line? Was 
> >it April 29th?
> 
> That's correct. This link here:
> 
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-ap-oldsmobiles-end,
> 1,3394367.story
> 
> will take you to a (currently free) story about it. (Once it 
> drops into the 
> Tribune archives after somewhere between 1-4 weeks, you'll 
> have to pay to 
> retrieve it, so snag a copy now if you want to keep it.)
> 
> If the link above wraps badly on your screen, this shorter 
> version will take 
> you to the same place:
> 
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?E2BD11B38
> 
> -- Andy
> 
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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:05:17 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: OldsmobileForums.com

Well Jay, I just joined....dont know how much I'll be posting as summer is
very busy for me....as it is with most people!

Tami

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:34:37 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: looking for interior "post" trim

>You could always try this '57 bmw. 
>http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/bmw600.html
>It has a front door (quite literally) and 1 door in the rear passenger 
>side.

Right, and in fact Anderson BMW in Crystal Lake has a mint, restored one in 
their showroom. If you thought it looked strange on the website, you should 
see one in person. (e.g. When you open the front, um, door, the whole 
steering column has to swing out of the way along with it; see 
http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/images/bmw600-07.jpg for an example)

Somehow I can't see GM managing to build something this unusual without 
having it fall apart after 3,000 miles...  :-(

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:38:22 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone have access to AllData or Olds Tech Bulletins? (Intrigue)

>The only thing is a recent vibration in the brake system (rotor warp)
>that started suspiciously soon after I had the dealer rotate the tires.
>I watched the guy use an air wrench on the lugs but assumed he
>had a torque stick. Apparently not.

Idiot. (No, no, not you... :-)

>I hope rotors are covered under warranty.

Regardless of that, get thee out to the garage with a torque wrench and 
re-torque the lug nuts right now in the proper manner. I can tell you from 
personal experience that you can alleviate some of the warpage (if not all 
of it) by retorquing to relieve (or maybe re-equalize) some of the stresses. 
Not all the warpage is permanent, and you've got nothing to lose by trying.

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 11:26:08 -0400
From: Joe Vahabzadeh <king_v@mindless.com>
Subject: Quick question, more freon fun...

All,

	Well, I've got the potential to legally get some cans of freon now, as I
finally got off my lazy duff and got my certification.


	Now, here's the deal.  There's apparently two brands of it.  One's just
straight R-12, and the other is R-12 with some leak-detector dye in it.
Both cans are the same size.

	But, the leak detector one is MUCH cheaper.  $25 compared to $39 for the
straight freon.  Not to mention I can potentially get this stuff for a
notable percentage off.

	Am I really getting only a little more than half a normal freon charge
with a can of the stuff with leak-detector, or is it actually a good deal?

	It's not just going into the beater, I'm figuring I might use it in
another vehicle as well.

	Advice?

	Thanks in advance.


	- Joe Vahabzadeh

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 08:35:57 -0700
From: "John Holt sr" <johnlholtsr@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Anyone done [an intake manifold gasket] on a '96 Silhouette?

FYI, A word of caution
On fuel injected engines, I would use caution adding the stop leak to 
cooling systems. Keep an eye on your temp gauges, you may notice surging or 
extreme fluctuations of the needle in the gauge. This would be caused by the 
stop leak coating the temp sensor and or the thermistat causing faulty 
readings to be displayed. I had this happen to me when I tried to cut 
corners instead of replacing a heater core and the only way to get things 
right again was to replace the heater core and the coolant sensor and the 
thermistat.



John

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:02:15 -0400
From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Quick question, more freon fun...

> Now, here's the deal.  There's apparently two brands of it.  One's just
> straight R-12, and the other is R-12 with some leak-detector dye in it.
> Both cans are the same size.
>
> But, the leak detector one is MUCH cheaper.  $25 compared to $39 for the
> straight freon.  Not to mention I can potentially get this stuff for a
> notable percentage off.
>
> Am I really getting only a little more than half a normal freon charge
> with a can of the stuff with leak-detector, or is it actually a good deal?

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Depends on the price difference.  I suspect the leak detector is just an oil
charge with some red dye in it, or maybe fluorescent if it is more recent
vintage.  This stuff is OK, but I would not use more than one can of it in a
system unless I was very confident that it needed the oil charge.  Too much
oil is not good.  It is possible to charge just the R-12 from most of these
cans.  Leave the cans upright near where you are going to work for several
hours to let the oil settle (read on the can to make sure it does not have a
dip tube in the can).  Then with as little jostling as possible, charge with
the can upright.  I got a good deal on some of this a few years ago.  The
cans I got were made by Sercon.  About 65% - 70% freon, the rest oil and red
dye, but I paid well under half what the rate was for plain R-12.

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 13:14:30 -0400
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: Re: Quick question, more freon fun...

Joe Vahabzadeh wrote:
> All,
> 
> 	Well, I've got the potential to legally get some cans of freon now, as I
> finally got off my lazy duff and got my certification.
> 
> 
> 	Now, here's the deal.  There's apparently two brands of it.  One's just
> straight R-12, and the other is R-12 with some leak-detector dye in it.
> Both cans are the same size.
> 
> 	But, the leak detector one is MUCH cheaper.  $25 compared to $39 for the
> straight freon.  Not to mention I can potentially get this stuff for a
> notable percentage off.
> 
> 	Am I really getting only a little more than half a normal freon charge
> with a can of the stuff with leak-detector, or is it actually a good deal?
> 
> 	It's not just going into the beater, I'm figuring I might use it in
> another vehicle as well.
> 
> 	Advice?
> 
> 	Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 	- Joe Vahabzadeh
> 
> 
Joe
   I bought some straight R-12 on e-bay recently. averaged about $13.00 
per lb. You migght give it a try
LOL
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:15:47 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Vent window cranks

>Yup, Clockwise (while staring blindly at the crank handle) will open either 
>side vent window.

Ah. So they are unique to each side (their Open rotation of the _output_ 
shaft must be clockwise in one case, counterclockwise in the other), which 
explains the R/L designations on the part numbers. Now I can go on to be 
confused by something else instead...  :-)

- -- Andy

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:48:12 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Vent window cranks

This is getting too weird.



> >Yup, Clockwise (while staring blindly at the crank handle) will open
either
> >side vent window.
>
> Ah. So they are unique to each side (their Open rotation of the _output_
> shaft must be clockwise in one case, counterclockwise in the other), which
> explains the R/L designations on the part numbers.


No, that logic doesn't work.

On '64-'65 A-bodies with flip lock wing vents, the right door window
regulator crank operates counter-clock-wise to lower the window and
clock-wise to raise the window. The left door window regulator crank
operates clock-wise to lower the window and counter-clock-wise to raise the
window. They are reversed. If it were possible to swap the 2 regulators to
opposite sides, the directions of rotation would be reversed for lowering
and raising.

It doesn't make sense the vent regulator cranks in a vehicle don't operate
in the same pattern as the door window regulator cranks. You stated the
correct part numbers say there is a left and right. I wonder if the right
side vent regulator has been replaced with a left side vent regulator, if
the 2 regulators will interchange and work correctly. Right side vent
regulators may no longer have been available as new and the previous owner
used a left side assembly.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 19:58:16 -0400
From: "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com>
Subject: 69 Rear marker bezels on evilbay

I've been following some NOS rear side marker bezels on evilbay. The winning
bid $256.99!!!!!!
After paying $3.50 for a gallon of  regular gas up here in the Great White
North I guess it was a steal of a deal!
Amazing how valueable Olds stuff is now that they stopped making them.

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 20:06:43 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: 69 Rear marker bezels on evilbay

I realize they have stopped making the Olds....but its silly that prices
have gone up so much on parts....I mean they still have parts and I'm sure
they will still make parts....right???

Tami

Keeping my Olds under lock and key...never out of my sight

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Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:36:42 -0400
From: "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: 69 Rear marker bezels on evilbay

I realize they have stopped making the Olds....but its silly that prices
have gone up so much on parts....I mean they still have parts and I'm sure
they will still make parts....right???

I believe they stock parts for 10 years after a vehicle is produced. You
could usually get parts for 20 years in the good old days.
With the production stop on the Olds line it will be interesting how long
Olds specific parts are available.
35 year old chrome bezels are another story.

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