
oldsmobile-digest       Saturday, July 31 2004       Volume 01 : Number 4970



Re: 350 OK for Daily Driver?
Re: Without Driving off a Cliff
Re: Without Driving off a Cliff
Re: 350 OK for Daily Driver?
Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
Chattering Wiper help
Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
Looking for Daniel R. Gerow
Re: Without Driving off a Cliff
Re: Without Driving off a Cliff
350 OK for Daily Driver?
Re: Looking for Daniel R. Gerow
Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
Re: Q-jet IDing websites...
Re: Chattering Wiper help
RE: Chattering Wiper help
Re: Without Driving off a Cliff
Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
Re: Chattering Wiper help
RE: 65 numbers matching - or not?
Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
Olds show CT Sunday
FW: YOUR PAYMENT INFO REQUIRED/455 Oldsmobile RACING ENGINE.
Re: Olds show CT Sunday
Last Chance Sale

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:30:02 -0600
From: eric <aksoe1@sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: 350 OK for Daily Driver?

Always had the bigger 98's, but I just got a 1980 98, 350 in it.  It is 
faster an better running and better running then the 78 88 with a 403 
(which had problems).  It is the wife's car, and works great.  No race 
car, but NOT sluggish.  Mileage is above 20MPIG, but I think a tune-up 
would keep it reasonable.  Add a T2004R, and I'm positive it could 
meat/beat 25MPIG.

My .02:
With a big car (76 and older), Horrible choice.  I had better luck and 
better power and better MPG's with 455's.  After the 76 when the size 
went down, the 350 works great, and its a far cheaper and more common 
motor.  But, I still own only 455's for me (serious, I own nothing else).

Cheers

Eric




Dave Cullen wrote:

>Anybody have experience with the stock 350 4bbl in 77-80 Olds B or C Bodies?
>Did it perform well for daily driver use? Climb hills without a whimper?
>Terrible gas mileage?
>
>The 307 in my Delta is about to turn 200K miles and it's tired. Won't hold
>highway speeds up long hills. I wanna put a 350 in it but I don't want to go
>through the effort if it'll still be a POS. My needs are (1) reliability (2)
>economy and (3) emissions friendly. The late model smogger motors (A.I.R.
>heads and low compression) will allow a stealth install that'd fool all but
>the most Olds savvy inspector. I don't have time or inclination to tweak the
>ECM to adapt anything radical. I don't want to spank ricers.
>
>I only have one car - a big grey Oldsmobile. If the 350 won't fill my needs,
>then there's a Saturn or Frod in my future. Please help me decide.
>
>drc
>
>
>  
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:57:43 -0700
From: Kevin & Casey Olund <kcolund@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Without Driving off a Cliff

> I guess, with more cubic inches I will burn same more gas anyway, but I will
> try to get the best mpg from the beast.

Remember too....alot of poor mileage in the city is spent at idle waiting for a light.

> BTW - you mean a TH200-4R , right?

Yes.

> 
> What tires do you use?

BFG 255 60 15's on rear, 235 60 15's on front. All on 7" rims.
 

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:22:42 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Without Driving off a Cliff

At 06:22 PM 7/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Interstingly enough, My vacuum is far less on this under load 
>than my old carb (2 inches). However, with the proper linkage 
>the shifting is OK (I still am trying to get lower shifts).

The manifold vacuum will depend upon how far the secondaries open. I found
that before bending the secondary flapper tang, the lowest vacuum I could
get at WOT was about 2.5"; after bending the tang, the vacuum now drops
almost to zero.

>For timing, I'm using a 1980 HEI Distributor, untouched, but way 
>advanced of stock (+ an adjustable vacuum advance).  I want to get a 
>recurved one, but I'm still learning on this.

This implies you're not using the computer?

>As for carbs , I ordered a set of jets today, so I'm going to lean out 
>my primary's some more.  From what I hear, any-speed drivability starts 
>to suffer as you go away from the stock jets.  However, I only care 
>about power at WOT, and highway mileage, so as long is it kind of runs 
>at anything else, I'll learn how to deal with it (after all, you likely 
>cant have everything).

Rejetting the primaries won't do much, if anything, for WOT. The secondary
rods are removable without disassembling a Q-jet since they hang from the
secondary hanger which is mounted in between the two secondary air flappers
(or doors).

>So far, this project has been a huge success, and a lot of fun, so I 
>intend to keep trying.  I figure I beat my goal of 25MPIG, so maybe I 
>can hit 30 (though I reallly doubt it).

That would be inneresting. At what speed/rpm are you obtaining 25 mpg? What
kind of gas and have you tried different suppliers?

>My next idea is some nitrous, so when you really want power, I can be 
>right up there.

Beware of those relatively-weak hollowed main webs.....  ;o(((((((

SteveH

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:33:06 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: 350 OK for Daily Driver?

At 06:30 PM 7/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>My .02:
>With a big car (76 and older), Horrible choice.

According to Standard Catalog of Oldsmobile, the '74s were the heaviest of
all time, with the '73s right behind. They began getting lighter as of '75
but were still heavy in the later years. One thing that likely helped the
later years compensate for the weight was improved aerodynamic sheet metal
styling. I suspect this is one reason they did away with rain gutters.

Several months ago, I removed the roof rack from my full-sized wagon,
hoping to gain at least 0.1 mph/0.1 second in my quarter mile trials  ;o)
While that was indeterminate since I didn't try running with and without
the rack, I did leave the rack off the car for several months after the
weather turned warm. It seemed to me that if anything, mileage might have
DECREASED by maybe 1 mpg on the highway. This would make sense because the
purpose of the wing on the back of the roof rack is to direct air sweeping
over the roof of the car, down onto the rear winder to help keep it clear
of beaded rain water and dust. And indeed and in fact, you can see that the
spoiler wing does exactly that.

In addition, however, by directing that air stream down the rear of the
car, it helps to fill in the slight low-pressure area that is created by
the sudden passing of the big full-sized wagon's body through the air. This
is the opposite of drafting, a technique with which any roundy-round race
driver is intimately familiar. The draftee (car that creates the draft) can
feel a slight lowering in speed when another car tailgates and rides in the
draft. Similarly, I believe that the roof rack spoiler helps reduce this
dead air zone behind the big wagon and thus reduces the power that would be
consumed by that dead air zone attempting to pull the wagon's body back
into the zone.

It's likely that tests conducted at over 100 mph would prove this theory
(or not) rather conconclusively; normal highway speeds of 60-70 mph is
probably hardly noticeable.

SteveH

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:05:36 -0400
From: "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com>
Subject: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400

I can pick up a used turbo 400 for a lot less than rebuilding the turbo 350
for my 69 Cutlass. Since I'm switching the 403 in the car to a 455, is the
turbo 400 the better way to go? (Local wrecker has a good used 1976  turbo
400 out of a wagon)
Any comments or experience would be appreciated. Any alterations required
when doing the swap?

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:14:41 -0500
From: Stephen Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: Chattering Wiper help

All,
	I have some "chattering" wiper blades.  They are brand new, and once
used after a few styles, the wipers seem to chatter even though there is
moisture on the windshield.
	I have replaced the wiper refills with complete G.M. blade
replacements, with the same results.

Besides the thought of using Rain-X (Which I don't like for minor windshield
precipitation) as it doesn't not wipe completely clean on the windshield.

Any thoughts?

Thank you,

Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme 
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com 

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:11:21 -0400
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400

At 10:05 PM 7/30/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>I can pick up a used turbo 400 for a lot less than rebuilding the turbo 350
>for my 69 Cutlass. Since I'm switching the 403 in the car to a 455, is the
>turbo 400 the better way to go? (Local wrecker has a good used 1976  turbo
>400 out of a wagon)
>Any comments or experience would be appreciated. Any alterations required
>when doing the swap?

Depending what kind of wagon that transmission is coming out of, it might 
have a long-tailshaft housing on the back. Now, since you're going to have 
to shorten the driveshaft anyway, that may not be a big deal. With a 
short-tailshaft housing, you could use a stock driveshaft from a 442 
without any further modifications.

Aside from adding an electronic kickdown switch to power the kickdown on 
the TH400 (and getting rid of the kickdown linkage for the old TH350), I 
don't see any problems.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:22:54 -0700
From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400

Dan:

Its good you are asking. Unless you heavily build a th350, you are much 
better off with a th400. The torque of the 455 will easily fry the th350.

Make sure the th400 is a short tail shaft model, otherwise it will not be a 
bolt in deal. If you get a long tail shaft trans, you will have to shorten 
your drive shaft. The wagons generally had the long tail shafts, as the big 
cars did. You'd want a th400 out of an A body car. You know that it is 
exchangeable between all the BOP cars. Also, a new one from Jet may be an 
option.

George

At 10:05 PM 7/30/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>I can pick up a used turbo 400 for a lot less than rebuilding the turbo 350
>for my 69 Cutlass. Since I'm switching the 403 in the car to a 455, is the
>turbo 400 the better way to go? (Local wrecker has a good used 1976  turbo
>400 out of a wagon)
>Any comments or experience would be appreciated. Any alterations required
>when doing the swap?

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:57:12 EDT
From: Roncutlass@aol.com
Subject: Looking for Daniel R. Gerow

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:52:04 -0400
From: "Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net>
Subject: Re: Without Driving off a Cliff

Hmmm, really an everyday stuff.. me, on the contrary, have installed the MSD
6A today, working nice in the end, noticeably quicker starts hot or cold (
no choke )
I still don't do any WOTs, waiting for the shift kit to be installed, I'm
afraid to burn the clutches, 1-2 takes a lot of time.
As for the leanning the mixture, be carefull, not to lean too much - The
260ci running really lean ( a carb from a smaller Chevy engine ) was close
to overheating. With the same rad, the 468 runs at 80°C all day long, sure,
in colder wheather, but is double the size anyway...
I will try to see the jets and rods soon...
thanks - Matt

> Sorry, been away a bit:
> I went with non-fancy stock pieces, although I'm still working out some
> details.  My Current Carb is off a 1982 88 (it had the T200 Cable
> Linkage on it).  I actually have never managed to top 24-25MPIG on this,
> but it needs a rebuild (just picked up the kit).  Interstingly enough,
> My vacuum is far less on this under load than my old carb (2 inches).
> However, with the proper linkage the shifting is OK (I still am trying
> to get lower shifts).
>
> For timing, I'm using a 1980 HEI Distributor, untouched, but way
> advanced of stock (+ an adjustable vacuum advance).  I want to get a
> recurved one, but I'm still learning on this.
>
> As for carbs , I ordered a set of jets today, so I'm going to lean out
> my primary's some more.  From what I hear, any-speed drivability starts
> to suffer as you go away from the stock jets.  However, I only care
> about power at WOT, and highway mileage, so as long is it kind of runs
> at anything else, I'll learn how to deal with it (after all, you likely
> cant have everything).
>
> So far, this project has been a huge success, and a lot of fun, so I
> intend to keep trying.  I figure I beat my goal of 25MPIG, so maybe I
> can hit 30 (though I reallly doubt it).
>
> My next idea is some nitrous, so when you really want power, I can be
> right up there.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> Kevin & Casey Olund wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>Kevin and Eric,
> >>What carbs - distributors - advance do you run in your cars? I'm quite
happy
> >>with my 11mpg in the city but I could have more with pleasure...
> >>TIA
> >>Matt
> >>81CS 468
> >>
> >>
>

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:58:42 -0400
From: "Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net>
Subject: Re: Without Driving off a Cliff

Ha, not small tires... I have now the 195/70/14 and as soon as I burn them
will go to 245/60/14 to keep the stock diameter and sort of a sleeper look.
BTW, your 7" rims are too narrow for those rear tires...
Sure, the red light thirst is a problem - 60HP onle to live is quite a lot,
about 3 times any ricer needs, but I really don't like oriental cars, so...
I will pay those 60HP at least for the music of the exhaust...
Must find a 200-4R down here
Thanks
Matt
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin & Casey Olund" <kcolund@shaw.ca>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Without Driving off a Cliff


> > I guess, with more cubic inches I will burn same more gas anyway, but I
will
> > try to get the best mpg from the beast.
>
> Remember too....alot of poor mileage in the city is spent at idle waiting
for a light.
>
> > BTW - you mean a TH200-4R , right?
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > What tires do you use?
>
> BFG 255 60 15's on rear, 235 60 15's on front. All on 7" rims.
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:49:18 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: 350 OK for Daily Driver?

I have had great luck with 79 350s.  Just do your maintenance, like 
timing chain, rocker pivots, rebuilt HEI, carb.  A high volume pump 
(with a larger diesel pan) will help keep oil pressure up on an older 
engine.  

One 79 Toro 350 was running fine at 215,000 miles, good compression, 
minimum oil use.  When I junked the car (the women had too many 
accidents), I found NO TRACE of a ring ridge in the cylinders.  

The 350 would take at best 9 sec to get 2 tons up to 60 mph with a 
switch pitch trans.  I changed to 403s 2 decades ago, with duals got 
0-60 down to 7.5 sec, 91mph in the 1/4 mile.  They seem to last 
about as well as the 350s.  My 1980 Olds 88 has 315,000 miles, still 
working for a living.  Easily the best car I ever owned.  Bruce Roe

30 Jul 2004  "Roc88ket" <roc88ket@comcast.net> writes:
> My dad's '78 Electra 350-4BBL went 300,000 miles. Best car the 
> family  ever owned.

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Greg Beaulieu" <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>

> > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Dave Cullen wrote:
> > > Anybody have experience with the stock 350 4bbl in 77-80 Olds
> > > B or C Bodies?
> > > Did it perform well for daily driver use? Climb hills without a 
> > > whimper?   Terrible gas mileage?
> >
> > My departed '78 Delta had a 350 Rocket. It was a pretty good fit 
> > for that car. I never had any complaints about power although I 
> > wasn't looking for high performance out of it, but it never seemed 
> > strained. Truth be told it didn't seem all that much different from 
> > the 403 in my Electra, although I think the rear gear in the Electra 
> > was a lower numeric ratio so that might have had something to 
> > do with it. My 350 was typical Olds i.e. always started, always ran 
> > well, and had a leaky exhaust manifold. Gas mileage didn't seem
> > too bad, considering the size of the car. Can't see it being
> > too different from the 307.
> >
> > If you can find a suitable donor, I wouldn't hesitate.
> >
> > Greg Beaulieu 

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:03:07 -0500
From: "Doug Newman" <newmand@oldsgmail.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for Daniel R. Gerow

Roncutlass@aol.com wrote:

<Danny, lost your e-mail address.   If anyone knows it please let me
know.
Thanks, roncutlass@aol.com>
 
This should work, Ron:  mailto:dgerow@stonehill.edu

Hope this helps, 


Doug Newman                  1987 442              OCA # 30311
Columbus, MS                    

http://store.oldsgmail.com                             The Store    
http://newmand.oldsgmail.com                       My Home Page   

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:35:04 -0500
From: Bruce Roe <bcroe@juno.com>
Subject: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400

A 350 has no business behind a big block; its marginal 
for a 403.  Get a 77 or later THM400 with the short tail, 
from any Cad or 403 car.  The long tail can be changed
out, but complete disassembly is required.

The trans support will need to move back, and the 400 
needs a larger yoke; the short one will allow the same 
drive shaft. 

Bruce Roe

30 Jul 2004  "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com> writes:
> I can pick up a used turbo 400 for a lot less than rebuilding 
> the turbo 350 for my 69 Cutlass. Since I'm switching the 403 
> in the car to a 455, is the turbo 400 the better way to go? 
> (Local wrecker has a good used 1976 turbo
> 400 out of a wagon)
> Any comments or experience would be appreciated. Any 
> alterations required when doing the swap?

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:29:55 -0400
From: "Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net>
Subject: Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400

People say, the TH400 eats a lot more gas... how right it is?
Matt

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Roe" <bcroe@juno.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:35 PM
Subject: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400


> A 350 has no business behind a big block; its marginal 
> for a 403.  Get a 77 or later THM400 with the short tail, 
> from any Cad or 403 car.  The long tail can be changed
> out, but complete disassembly is required.
> 
> The trans support will need to move back, and the 400 
> needs a larger yoke; the short one will allow the same 
> drive shaft. 
> 
> Bruce Roe
> 
> 30 Jul 2004  "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com> writes:
> > I can pick up a used turbo 400 for a lot less than rebuilding 
> > the turbo 350 for my 69 Cutlass. Since I'm switching the 403 
> > in the car to a 455, is the turbo 400 the better way to go? 
> > (Local wrecker has a good used 1976 turbo
> > 400 out of a wagon)
> > Any comments or experience would be appreciated. Any 
> > alterations required when doing the swap?
> 

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:38:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank Fellman <frank.fellman@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Q-jet IDing websites...

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Hi, Karl!
 
7041251 was [is] a '71 455, as our Vista Cruiser should've had;
however, it's stuck with a 7041250 from a 350.  (Speaking of
which, Tim and Judy-- how's that project coming along?)
 
Anyway, Karl, from what I've seen, the final "1" represents 455
service, a "0"-- a 350 carb.
                                                hth,               Phantom455
 
(in response to your wonderings/suppositions contained in the below site)
=====================================================
 
<snip>

On the subject of related websites, it appears some domains do not check 
for domain inactivity....

  http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/rochcode.html


Wow. I'd love to have that kind of spare time again......

 

 

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<DIV>Hi, Karl!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>7041251 was [is] a '71 455, as our Vista Cruiser should've had;</DIV>
<DIV>however, it's stuck with a 7041250 from a 350.&nbsp; (Speaking of</DIV>
<DIV>which, Tim and Judy-- how's that project coming along?)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Anyway, Karl, from what I've seen, the final "1" represents 455</DIV>
<DIV>service, a "0"-- a 350 carb.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hth,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Phantom455</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(in response to your wonderings/suppositions contained in the below site)</DIV>
<DIV>=====================================================</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&lt;snip&gt;<BR><BR>On the subject of related websites, it appears some domains do not check <BR>for domain inactivity....<BR><BR>&nbsp; <A href="http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/rochcode.html">http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/thurlow/858/rochcode.html</A><BR><BR><BR>Wow. I'd love to have that kind of spare time again......</DIV>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:45:38 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Chattering Wiper help

Steve,

Did you replace the whole blade assembly, or just the refills? Sometimes,
the bow arc in the blade structure gets weak, and a new blade fixes the
problem. Also, the spring in the arm itself could be weak and not holding
the refill tight enough to the glass. If that's the case, you would have to
replace the arm. On a new - old car, I always initially replace the entire
arm and blade with new ANCOs with the wind deflector, which also helps to
keep the refill tight against the glass to prevent chattering.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com



- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Reed" <ssreed@direcway.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:14 PM
Subject: Chattering Wiper help


> All,
> I have some "chattering" wiper blades.  They are brand new, and once
> used after a few styles, the wipers seem to chatter even though there is
> moisture on the windshield.
> I have replaced the wiper refills with complete G.M. blade
> replacements, with the same results.
>
> Besides the thought of using Rain-X (Which I don't like for minor
windshield
> precipitation) as it doesn't not wipe completely clean on the windshield.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Steve Reed
> '96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
> '70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
> '68 Cutlass Supreme
> Austin, TX
> http://www.sreed.0catch.com
>
>

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:53:31 -0500
From: Stephen Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: RE: Chattering Wiper help

Milton,

> > All,
> > I have some "chattering" wiper blades.  They are brand new, 
> and once 
> > used after a few styles, the wipers seem to chatter even 
> though there 
> > is moisture on the windshield.
> > I have replaced the wiper refills with complete G.M. blade 
> > replacements, with the same results.
> >
> > Besides the thought of using Rain-X (Which I don't like for minor
> windshield
> > precipitation) as it doesn't not wipe completely clean on 
> the windshield.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Steve Reed

> Steve,
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
> Did you replace the whole blade assembly, or just the 
> refills?

The entire blade ASSY; G.M. as well as Anco.

> Sometimes, the bow arc in the blade structure gets 
> weak, and a new blade fixes the problem. Also, the spring in 
> the arm itself could be weak and not holding the refill tight 
> enough to the glass. If that's the case, you would have to 
> replace the arm. On a new - old car, I always initially 
> replace the entire arm and blade with new ANCOs with the wind 
> deflector, which also helps to keep the refill tight against 
> the glass to prevent chattering.
> 
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com

I'M clueless, as I've never experienced this when replacing the assembly.


Steve Reed
'96 9C1
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme 
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com 

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:14:30 -0700
From: Kevin & Casey Olund <kcolund@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Without Driving off a Cliff

> BTW, your 7" rims are too narrow for those rear tires...

It's on the narrow side of recommended limits but still okay. I however plan on widening the rear rims to 8" (someday).

Kevin 

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:58:34 -0700
From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400

>People say, the TH400 eats a lot more gas... how right it is?

Matt:

It is likely, that it uses more gas. How significant is another question. I 
think people are more worried about it robbing power. So, if you had a 
small block that's mildly hopped up, you'd avoid the th400. As far as gas 
mileage goes, if you have a 455 you can't be trying to hunt down that last 
1/2 gallon. My 442 uses more gas than my c/s, but I have much more fun with 
it too. Unless you keep your foot out, it won't make much of a difference...

George

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:30:20 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Chattering Wiper help

> The entire blade ASSY; G.M. as well as Anco.
> I'M clueless, as I've never experienced this when replacing the assembly.


Steve, you didn't say if the chattering occurred only when the car is
stopped or while cruising down the road. Did you use the ANCO blades that
have the upward curved wind deflector, which puts air pressure force on the
blade while one is driving down the road, to keep the refills firmly pressed
into the glass? If so, I simply don't know why you are having a problem. If
you didn't use the wind deflector blades, maybe that's the problem, unless
there's a weird deposit on the surface of your windshield.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:46:26 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: 65 numbers matching - or not?

Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:56:28 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: RE: 65 numbers matching - or not?

>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:37:45 -0400
>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>Subject: 65 numbers matching - or not?

snip

>Prefix Letter - 6 digit number - Suffix Letter [or lack thereof]
>
>Our 1966 442 head is V 108137 T = V for 442 application 400 engine, T 
>suffix for Tri-power

So, Mr. Witt, possessor of great knowledge (and possibly a secret decoder
ring), what would the head stamping (see I paid attention) on my '67 400
tell you? Specifically, what would the suffix letter mean?

V 217039 G

Always eager to learn more.

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ
================
Tells me... it's time for you to invest in that Chassis Service Manual!
$40-50 or so, and WELL WORTH IT.

But, to be more helpful right away... Yeah, the V...G stamping means 400 
4bbl 442 engine in 1967.
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:17:41 -0500
From: Bruce Roe <bcroe@juno.com>
Subject: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400

There is nothing inherent about a THM400 that uses a 
lot of gas, attribute that to the engines they are bolted 
to.  Most economy relates to the torque converter.  A 
lower stall converter will slip less and waste less gas. 
So a THM400 with a 13" converter can get better mileage 
than a THM350 with a 12".  A Switch Pitch 400 with a 
dual range (performance/economy) converter will 
definitely improve mileage a couple points over a fixed 
compromise converter, and has more performance 
available to boot.  

A lockup clutch converter can eliminate these loses, so 
it can make a (rather small) difference.  So can an 
overdrive trans, for the same axle ratio.  To do apples to 
apples, these units should be compared to the modern 
version of the 400, the 4L80E.  However, a Switch Pitch 
can come close to a 4 speed in performance & economy, 
using an appropriate lower number axle raio.  I cruise 
at 60 mph at 2000 rpm, in a 2 ton car capable of 91mph 
in the 1/4 mile with switch pitch and a 2.41 axle.

The 400 IS heavier, about 215 lb complete.  And the 
rotational inertia of the bullet proof internals is more too. 
These factors will only show up racing if you are worried 
about several decimal places, and are really 
unmeasureable for economy.  

Bruce (uses only switch pitch 400s) Roe

31 Jul 2004  "Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net> writes:
> People say, the TH400 eats a lot more gas... how right it is?
> Matt
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Roe" <bcroe@juno.com>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:35 PM
> Subject: Turbo 350 vs Turbo 400
> 
> 
> > A 350 has no business behind a big block; its marginal 
> > for a 403.  Get a 77 or later THM400 with the short tail, 
> > from any Cad or 403 car.  The long tail can be changed
> > out, but complete disassembly is required.
> > 
> > The trans support will need to move back, and the 400 
> > needs a larger yoke; the short one will allow the same 
> > drive shaft. 
> > 
> > Bruce Roe

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:00:15 EDT
From: Roncutlass@aol.com
Subject: Olds show CT Sunday

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Trying to remember the name of the dealership in CT that the Olds show is at 
Sunday.  If anyone knows, please let me know.
Thanks.  Ron    ps Dan, thanks for the reminder!!  roncutlass@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:03:36 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: FW: YOUR PAYMENT INFO REQUIRED/455 Oldsmobile RACING ENGINE.

Where's my payment?
Other buyers are waiting
you snooze, you lose.
Chris
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++


>From: james cole <carlinkautos2004@yahoo.com>
>To: Christopher Witt <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>Subject: YOUR PAYMENT INFO REQUIRED/455 Oldsmobile RACING ENGINE.
>Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:49:29 -0700 (PDT)
>
>DEAR Christopher Witt,
>                 I have just finalized payment issues with my customer this
>evening for the ENGINE,
===============
Oh, good, I need to sell that ENGINE, and would really very much like to 
give you the business. Not many ENGINES like that around, you know.


and he has informed me that he is expecting
>a refund payment of a vehicle that he had earlier ordered and paid
>for about a month ago, but the order was later cancelled, because
>when the agent went to pick up the vehicle, he inspected the order
>and discovered that vehicle was not in any good condition, so the order was
>cancelled, and then the he filed in, for a refund of his money.
=============
I am sorry to hear of your misfortune. I assure you, your experience with me 
will not be at all like that.


?> My customer now intends use this his refund to pay for this your ENGINE
>that he now wants to buy. Due to company policy and book keeping,
>this refund payment which he is expecting, can only be made out in
>this one whole amount, that is the full amount which he paid
>before,because the company policy only allows a refund payment in one
>cashier check, so he has to instruct for the check payment to be
>drawn to you. So he has informed me that payment will get to you in a
>cashier check.
=============
I understand. That happens a lot. I get a lot of customers that want to buy 
a car or an ENGINE with cashier's check. As long as the funds are US dollars 
on a US bank, we should be good to go.


>He is expecting a refund payment of $11,800, When payment gets to
>you, you are required to deduct the cost of your ENGINE which is
>$5,500 and return his remaining balance of $6,300. back to the
>customer for him to be able to offset shipping charges, tax and other
>commission charges.
===========
As I mentioned, I prefer the BUYER to take care of all the shipping 
arrangements.


After all payment has reached you and balance
>sent back to my customer, the agent will come for pick up, while you
>send the receipt and other title papers to my client via courier.
>You are required to forward your payment information (1) name,
>(2)address and (3) phone number for payment to be made to you
>immediately.
>Thanks,
>MR.JAMES
>DM CARLINK INC...........
=====================
Here's my contact info

Please provide me with your contact info as well.

I look forward to meeting you in person one day to see what use you devised 
for the this ENGINE.
- ----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days


>   <rocketscience442@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>We have a customer interested in purchasing your RACING ENGINE for the
>price of $5,500.
>Please acknowledge our offer and indicate the present position of the
>item (send pictures in different views so we can access the face value
>of the order)
>On comfirmation we will instruct the buyer, to have the funds remitted
>to your account as soon as possible. We will arrange a pick up of the
>(item ), once payment is confirmed by you the seller.
>Thanks,
>JAMES
>===============
>James- Not a problem- how many pictures do you want?
>I look forward to doing business with you
>I prefer that the buyer take care of all shipping arrangements.
>

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:26:24 -0500
From: "Doug Newman" <newmand@oldsgmail.com>
Subject: Re: Olds show CT Sunday

Roncutlass@aol.com wrote:

<Trying to remember the name of the dealership in CT that the Olds show
is at Sunday.  If anyone knows, please let me know.>

>From the New England Olds Club website at http://www.neolds.com/, down
towards the bottom of the page:

August 1st All Olds Car Show, Schaller Auto Body
Behind Schaller Honda
New Britain, CT

The Show Flyer and Registration Form links are at the bottom of the ad.

Hope this helps, 


Doug Newman                  1987 442              OCA # 30311
Columbus, MS                    

http://store.oldsgmail.com                             The Store    
http://newmand.oldsgmail.com                       My Home Page

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:10:41 -0400
From: Gene Gatti <64f-85@comcast.net>
Subject: Last Chance Sale

Hi Guys,
     I want to get rid of my '64 Cutlass project car and a couple of 455 
engines. If nobody buys them soon I'll be sending them to the junkyard. 
I'd hate to do that but I'm tired of looking at them. I'm located in 
South Jersey near Atlantic City and you would need to pick them up. 
Here's what I have:

1964 Cutlass Hardtop project car with good, rust free fenders and a 
decent hood. It would need a complete restoration. Also included is a 
bunch of used parts such as an entire AC system from a '65 Cutlass and a 
set of used small block headers. Also some starters and alternators and 
etc. This car is towable with a tow-bar. I want $200 for this lot.

1968 455 engine that was removed from a boat. It started life as a 
factory crate motor but is now disassembled and has some rust in a 
couple of bores. Includes an 'N' crank and small valve C-heads. $100

1968 455 removed from a Toronado. Complete from pan to air cleaner and 
ran decent when pulled but made a knocking sound. $200

Big valve C-heads (one pair) which look to be in good shape. $100

Please rescue these treasures from the hungry crusher :-)
Thanks,
Gene
64f-85@comcast.net

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