
oldsmobile-digest       Thursday, June 17 2004       Volume 01 : Number 4921



Re: Void coverings in engine compartment
Re: hifting on Turbo 200 questions
Brake line woes revisited.
RE: Void coverings in engine compartment
Re: Void coverings in engine compartment
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #4920
RE: Void coverings in engine compartment
Moron stupid reproduction parts
Re: hifting on Turbo 200 questions
Re: Basement Buried Treasures (and I could use some T-3 info)
Re: Brake line woes revisited.
Re: Carter Fuel Pump
Re: Carter Fuel Pump
Re: Brake line woes revisited.
Re: Brake line woes revisited.
Re: Brake line woes revisited.
Re: Brake line woes revisited.
Re: Brake line woes revisited.
Re: Carter Fuel Pump
rechroming
hifting on Turbo 200 questions
Brake line woes revisited.
Re: Brake line woes revisited.

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:32:47 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Void coverings in engine compartment

These are called splash shields, or A frame shields.  Fusick automotive in 
CT sells excellent repros for your '67, part # FCD3, for $27.50/pair, with 
the attaching clips. In fact, I just installed a set on our '67 Cutlass 
Supreme convert yesterday.  Exact fit.

Phone # is 860-623-1589, or try       www.fusick.com


Joe Varley
      AZ

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:00:32 -0400
From: Joe Vahabzadeh <king_v@mindless.com>
Subject: Re: hifting on Turbo 200 questions

At 11:50 PM 06/15/2004 -0500, Bruce wrote:
>You are really living dangerously, a 455 driving a THM200.

Um, he's using a 200-4R, not a 200.  The former isn't nearly as weak as the
latter, though admittedly I wouldn't put a bone-stock version of the 200-4R
behind a big block.


	- Joe Vahabzadeh

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:36:21 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Brake line woes revisited.

Hello list,
Does anyone know of a website or manufacturer for complete, bent brake lines
for my '78 Cutlass. I need the line from the prop valve to the rear
junction. It runs the whole length along the frame, over the top of the
upper rear control arm. The threading into the prop valve is different from
regular brake lines. I'd rather get the whole line so I don't have to put
lines together and end up with a squishy pedal.
TIA
Pat Swanton.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:39:28 -0700
From: "67Oldz" <67@oldsmobile.net>
Subject: RE: Void coverings in engine compartment

That is great. Thnx.
What about the other ones like on the sides of the radiator? Is there a
complete kit? Does fusick have website? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Joe & 
> Gloria Varley
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:33 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Void coverings in engine compartment
> 
> These are called splash shields, or A frame shields.  Fusick 
> automotive in CT sells excellent repros for your '67, part # 
> FCD3, for $27.50/pair, with the attaching clips. In fact, I 
> just installed a set on our '67 Cutlass Supreme convert 
> yesterday.  Exact fit.
> 
> Phone # is 860-623-1589, or try       www.fusick.com
> 
> 
> Joe Varley
>       AZ
> 

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:55:57 -0400
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: Void coverings in engine compartment

     look next to the phone number?!?!?!
john
67 cutlass supreme 4 speed

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "67Oldz" <67@oldsmobile.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Void coverings in engine compartment


> That is great. Thnx.
> What about the other ones like on the sides of the radiator? Is there a
> complete kit? Does fusick have website? 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
> > [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Joe & 
> > Gloria Varley
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:33 PM
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: Void coverings in engine compartment
> > 
> > These are called splash shields, or A frame shields.  Fusick 
> > automotive in CT sells excellent repros for your '67, part # 
> > FCD3, for $27.50/pair, with the attaching clips. In fact, I 
> > just installed a set on our '67 Cutlass Supreme convert 
> > yesterday.  Exact fit.
> > 
> > Phone # is 860-623-1589, or try       www.fusick.com
> > 
> > 
> > Joe Varley
> >       AZ
> > 
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:55:28 EDT
From: ChazToone@aol.com
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #4920

In a message dated 6/16/2004 1:19:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
oldsmobile-digest-owner@chebucto.ns.ca writes:
Some time back, someone posted  a link to a really useful website with 
details on how to identify specific  years of T-3 headlamps.
 

Follow the links on this website and they explain the differences on  T-3  
bulbs:

http://www.lectriclimited.com/mainpage.htm


Thanks,

Charlie  Toone
OCA Member# 22915
1971 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
1972 H/O  (w/sunroof) - for a short while
1966 F-85 - my first car - long  gone
ChazToone@aol.com
http://hometown.aol.com/chaztoone/myhomepage/index.html
 

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:08:51 -0700
From: "67Oldz" <67@oldsmobile.net>
Subject: RE: Void coverings in engine compartment

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA!!!! 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of JOHN ORR
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:56 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Void coverings in engine compartment
> 
>      look next to the phone number?!?!?!
> john
> 67 cutlass supreme 4 speed
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "67Oldz" <67@oldsmobile.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:39 AM
> Subject: RE: Void coverings in engine compartment
> 
> 
> > That is great. Thnx.
> > What about the other ones like on the sides of the 
> radiator? Is there a
> > complete kit? Does fusick have website? 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
> > > [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Joe & 
> > > Gloria Varley
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:33 PM
> > > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > > Subject: Re: Void coverings in engine compartment
> > > 
> > > These are called splash shields, or A frame shields.  Fusick 
> > > automotive in CT sells excellent repros for your '67, part # 
> > > FCD3, for $27.50/pair, with the attaching clips. In fact, I 
> > > just installed a set on our '67 Cutlass Supreme convert 
> > > yesterday.  Exact fit.
> > > 
> > > Phone # is 860-623-1589, or try       www.fusick.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Joe Varley
> > >       AZ
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:15:50 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Moron stupid reproduction parts

Stupid gas tank
woulda been better off with the CA issue Skylark grubby unit the car came 
with

Go to install the tank last night.... Get it more or less in place... to 
find that they put at the LR corner, two VENT fittings. one 1/4 open and one 
1/2" with small bleed hole.

The problem being.... the CAR thinks the SINGLE 5/16" vent hose is supposed 
to be at the FRONT RIGHT corner. NO fitting there at all. First, wel 
soldered the 1/4 hole shut, right at the back, what do ya suppose is going 
to happen upon acceleration? Then, we ran a 1/2 hose off the other fitting 
upwards into the frame area a few inches.

Still not satisfied, especially after we found, hanging on the wall, the 
loop of pipe that the car originally used for a vent standpipe, I decided to 
punch a hole in the tank in the proper place, install a nipple [pc of the 
car's original fuel line soldered in place], and hook it up factory correct. 
Rather a PITA but not impossible, with the tank in place.

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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:52:57 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: hifting on Turbo 200 questions

At Tuesday, 15 June 2004, you wrote:

>You are really living dangerously, a 455 driving a THM200.

He said a TH200-4R, not the same thing at all. 200-4Rs can easily 
be built to hold up to 750+ HP GNs.

>If you get the cable set for hard enough shifts, you could then 
>adjust speed with the governor weight/spring.  
>
>Bruce Roe

There was a web site for some vendor that described precisely how 
to set up a brandy-new 200-4R including checking the TV cable setting 
and shift speeds. I spent some time last night trying to find it 
with no success. I'll look further tonight.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:09:27 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Basement Buried Treasures (and I could use some T-3 info)

(Taking the liberty of restoring the original Subject line here...)

>>Some time back, someone posted  a link to a really useful website
>>with details on how to identify specific  years of T-3 headlamps.
>
>
>Follow the links on this website and they explain the differences
>on T-3 bulbs:
>
>http://www.lectriclimited.com/mainpage.htm

That was it! Thanks, Charlie!

According to that website, the headlamp I found does appear to be a 
1956-1957 unit, as it has an obvious pebble-grain texture behind the logo as 
shown. I'll take a closer look at it tonight when I get home.

- -- Andy

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:34:45 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.

I just got this emailed 2 minutes ago. $180.00 and 6 to 8 weeks to get it.
click on the link if anyone needs lines......
http://catalogs.dailyshopper.com/kanter/index.aspx?pagename=circularlarge&ba
tchid=179008&pagenumber=4&uniqueid=3235158
Pat Swanton

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:36 AM
Subject: Brake line woes revisited.


> Hello list,
> Does anyone know of a website or manufacturer for complete, bent brake
lines
> for my '78 Cutlass. I need the line from the prop valve to the rear
> junction. It runs the whole length along the frame, over the top of the
> upper rear control arm. The threading into the prop valve is different
from
> regular brake lines. I'd rather get the whole line so I don't have to put
> lines together and end up with a squishy pedal.
> TIA
> Pat Swanton.
>
>

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:13:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Carter Fuel Pump

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the summit number is  CRT-M6109 which probably works out to a 
manufacturers
number of M6109, that seems to be how summit does it. Yes this one does 
have
the return line
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yep, M6109 is the one I got for my 69 W-31.  Approx $31 from NAPA.
 
Paul, have you tried the new AC Delco one you posted here?  I'm VERY interested to here how it works out.  Please keep us posted, especially considering I'll have to deal with these issues next month as I swap in my newly rebuilt engine into the W-31.
 
Chris
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:51:30 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: Carter Fuel Pump

> > From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
> > To: "Oldsmobile-Digest" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:36 AM
> > Subject: Carter Fuel Pump
> >
> >
> > Got a part number?
> >
> > Does it have the return line?
> >
> > Paul Tumolo
> > 1970 442
> > OCA # 31967
>
>
> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:33:11 -0500
> From: "Allen Schwartz" <mycj@tds.net>
> Subject: Re: Carter Fuel Pump
> 
> the summit number is  CRT-M6109 which probably works out to a 
> manufacturers number of M6109, that seems to be how summit does 
> it. Yes this one does have the return line
> 
> Allen Schwartz
> A&L Enterprises
> mycj@tds.net


Just so you know for the future, that same Carter pump is available at 
your local NAPA store. No waiting for the UPS man and no shipping charges.

Kenneth 
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:52:17 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.

Pat,

> I'd rather get the whole line so I don't have to put
> lines together and end up with a squishy pedal.


I completely understand why you would want one single line, because it would
look better. However, even if you connected 12 lines together, you will
*not* get a squishy pedal, unless the connections were not tightened. If a
connection on one long line is not tight, you will get a squishy pedal.
Loose connections leak. Tight connections don't leak, no matter how many
there are.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:14:03 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.

Milton,
I trust your judgement. Thankyou.
Kanter has a complete stainless line set and completely custom bent.
Kanter wants $180.00 and it will take 6 to 8 weeks.
Would you recommend Inline Tube, or Claasic Tube instead?
TIA
Pat Swanton.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.


> Pat,
>
> > I'd rather get the whole line so I don't have to put
> > lines together and end up with a squishy pedal.
>
>
> I completely understand why you would want one single line, because it
would
> look better. However, even if you connected 12 lines together, you will
> *not* get a squishy pedal, unless the connections were not tightened. If a
> connection on one long line is not tight, you will get a squishy pedal.
> Loose connections leak. Tight connections don't leak, no matter how many
> there are.
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:43:23 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.

Pat,

> Kanter has a complete stainless line set and completely custom bent.
> Kanter wants $180.00 and it will take 6 to 8 weeks.
> Would you recommend Inline Tube, or Claasic Tube instead?


You're asking the wrong guy on that. I seldom restore anything with original
type parts. There have been several List members who have had bad things to
say about Inline Tube, I think that was the one. For me, I would just
rebuild all the steel brake lines with universal lines from the parts store,
using appropriate couplings where necessary.

I can't advise on that one.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:47:17 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.

Milton,
I remember a thread with some unhappy customers and Inline Tube. I can't
remember where I read it.
Again, Thankyou for your advice!
Pat Swanton.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.


> Pat,
>
> > Kanter has a complete stainless line set and completely custom bent.
> > Kanter wants $180.00 and it will take 6 to 8 weeks.
> > Would you recommend Inline Tube, or Claasic Tube instead?
>
>
> You're asking the wrong guy on that. I seldom restore anything with
original
> type parts. There have been several List members who have had bad things
to
> say about Inline Tube, I think that was the one. For me, I would just
> rebuild all the steel brake lines with universal lines from the parts
store,
> using appropriate couplings where necessary.
>
> I can't advise on that one.
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
>
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:54:32 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.

>Milton,
>I remember a thread with some unhappy customers and Inline Tube. I can't
>remember where I read it.

It was here on the Olds list, in fact, but I believe it was a dispute over 
power steering hoses, not brake lines. The lengths of rigid pipe that were 
swaged on the ends of the hoses were turned in the wrong directions for the 
model of Olds that they'd been ordered for. I'm sure the aggrieved party 
will be updating us shortly...  :-)

- -- Andy

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:06:36 -0400
From: Michael Ecker <ecker567@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Carter Fuel Pump

By the way gang, I checked with Summit and the part# for the Carter fuel 
pump without the return line fitting is M6108 (the one with the return 
line is M6109.  Just thought this might help someone.  I definitely plan 
to order one myself.

Michael Ecker

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:50:05 -0400
From: "sherman f higgins" <goodfoot@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: rechroming

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:53:21 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: hifting on Turbo 200 questions

16 Jun 2004  SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net> writes:

> He said a TH200-4R, not the same thing at all. 200-4Rs can easily 
> be built to hold up to 750+ HP GNs.

Well yes, if you spend enough money on your THM200R4, it 
might be half as strong as the THM400 always oem with a 455.

Bruce Roe

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:52:43 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: Brake line woes revisited.

If you are buying stainless lines, here is what I found.  The idea 
is never to replace them again.  But the steel fittings corrode 
onto the stainless tube, and twist the end off when you try to 
replace parts like hoses and cylinders.  My solution is to 
REQUEST stainless steel fittings (you have to ask for them).  
Be sure and ask them to write it on the order; ask if there is 
an extra charge.  Otherwise they will just pretend they didn't 
hear you.  You can check everything with a magnet; I don't 
think the one into the prop valve is avilable in stainless, but 
that one should not require service.     

Bruce (SS brake and exhaust pipes, got tired of replacing) Roe

16 Jun 2004 "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net> writes:
> Milton,
> I trust your judgement. Thankyou.
> Kanter has a complete stainless line set and completely custom bent.
> Kanter wants $180.00 and it will take 6 to 8 weeks.
> Would you recommend Inline Tube, or Claasic Tube instead?
> TIA
> Pat Swanton.

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:14:36 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Brake line woes revisited.

Thanks Bruce. It makes perfect sense, I just hope the next time will be when
I do a frame off resto.....LOL
Pat Swanton.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <bcroe@juno.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 12:52 AM
Subject: Brake line woes revisited.


> If you are buying stainless lines, here is what I found.  The idea
> is never to replace them again.  But the steel fittings corrode
> onto the stainless tube, and twist the end off when you try to
> replace parts like hoses and cylinders.  My solution is to
> REQUEST stainless steel fittings (you have to ask for them).
> Be sure and ask them to write it on the order; ask if there is
> an extra charge.  Otherwise they will just pretend they didn't
> hear you.  You can check everything with a magnet; I don't
> think the one into the prop valve is avilable in stainless, but
> that one should not require service.
>
> Bruce (SS brake and exhaust pipes, got tired of replacing) Roe
>
> 16 Jun 2004 "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net> writes:
> > Milton,
> > I trust your judgement. Thankyou.
> > Kanter has a complete stainless line set and completely custom bent.
> > Kanter wants $180.00 and it will take 6 to 8 weeks.
> > Would you recommend Inline Tube, or Claasic Tube instead?
> > TIA
> > Pat Swanton.

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