
oldsmobile-digest        Monday, July 5 2004        Volume 01 : Number 4942



Re: NADA classic car online value guide - was "Now THAT's close to home!"
Gap on plugs, please
Re: Hazard lights
Re: Gap on plugs, please
UNBOUNCE: H*lp with a "hole" in my 455
Re: UNBOUNCE: H*lp with a "hole" in my 455
2003 Aurora Final 500
Re: NADA classic car online value guide - was "Now THAT's close to home!"
WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
Re: UNBOUNCE: with a "hole" in my 455
Re: Now THAT's close to home!
Re: For sale 94
Lower Patch panels, Fenders,  67 A-body
Old manuals
Re: UNBOUNCE: with a "hole" in my 455
Re: UNBOUNCE: with a "hole" in my 455
Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
A-body disc brake conversion
Re: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
Re: A-body disc brake conversion
Re: A-body disc brake conversion
Re: A-body disc brake conversion
RE: A-body disc brake conversion
Re: A-body disc brake conversion
Need help id parts
RE: A-body disc brake conversion
AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}

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Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 21:47:08 -0400
From: Michael Ecker <ecker567@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: NADA classic car online value guide - was "Now THAT's close to home!"

No problem, Pat.  I'm an insurance claims adjuster by trade, so have 
some experience first hand in what these (and similar) vehicles can be 
worth if in good condition.

Interesting about the title thing....  too bad NH is so far away and the 
car is too far along to be reasonably brought back to street-legal 
trim.  Not to mention that I do not have a dealer's license.....

- -- 
Michael Ecker
Lehigh Acres, Florida
ecker567@comcast.net

1978 Cutlass Supreme - $500 purchase, being slowly fixed up
   (in line for V6-to-403 swap soon, and maybe 200-4R and gears...)

1979 Cutlass Supreme Brougham - becoming a circle track car
   (bought without title, had Certificate of Destruction so can never
    be re-registered, but will uphold the Oldsmobile name with honor)

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 00:07:49 EDT
From: Roncutlass@aol.com
Subject: Gap on plugs, please

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If anyone is on line, can you tell me the correct spark plug gap for a 1970 
Cutlass Supreme, 350/4 bbrl.  I'm using AC/Delco R45S.  I thought it was .35, 
but the parts guy says .30?  Thanks.  Trying to get these in Monday am, so 
please reply to roncutlass@aol.com     Ron

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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:20:31 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Hazard lights

Jeff,



> The 4-way flashers.


Good! It's the easy answer.

I don't think the item you need will be available in Japan or Okinawa.
You'll need someone back in the states to buy it from a good auto parts
store and ship it to you. You need an universal 4-way emergency flasher
switch set from Signal-Stat Lighting (Federal Mogul) part # 127. It mounts
under the edge of the dash. It has a red pull knob for activation that has a
red bulb in it that also flashes. There is a complete wiring harness to hook
into your existing electrical system with detailed instructions. It's very
easy to install. I have one on Thunder Lizard (1970), the '65 F-85 4-door
(1992), the '64 Cutlass (1993), and one sitting on the shelf for the past
year to install on the '65 Vista Cruiser. In the past 34 years, the design
has not changed one tiny bit. List price on the one for the Vista Cruiser
was $75.71 and dealer price was $37.82.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:23:26 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Gap on plugs, please

> If anyone is on line, can you tell me the correct spark plug gap for a
1970
> Cutlass Supreme, 350/4 bbrl.  I'm using AC/Delco R45S.  I thought it was
.35,
> but the parts guy says .30?


Ron,

If you have the original ignition system with the original compression ratio
of 10-1, use 0.030" spark plug gap. If you have something else, you may go
wider, but if it's stock, stay with 0.030".

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 06:43:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: H*lp with a "hole" in my 455

The "h*lp" word... forwarding.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:   Peter Ferraro <petercferraro@yahoo.com>
Subject: H*lp with a "hole" in my 455

I am hoping the group could solve a mystery for me.  I purchased a 455
bare block and a N crank couple of months ago for next to nothing.  My
idea was to swap it for the 350 in my Cutlass next spring.  This winter
was going to be the time to build it up ... forged pistons, torker,
moderate cam, EB heads and etc. 
 
Upon examination of the block I found a hole .... yes a hole.  Facing the
front of the block it is to the right and above the cam hole.  It is on
the wall that would separate the timing chain area from the lifter galley. 
There is an outline of a recess that was part of the original casting and
this hole is slightly smaller than that recess.  Was a plug there
originally?  Or did someone punch it out for oil to get to the back side
of the timing chain????.  The edges of the hole are ragged (wasnt machined
out) and the hole is about an 1" in dia. 
 
My hope is to smooth out the edge of the hole with my die grinder so no
cracks propagate from it and than talk to a machine shop about repairing
it.  It is a low stress area so I am hopeful the engine is still usable. 
I have looked the block over and it seems to be the only thing wrong.  Of
course it will be magnafluxed as well as the crank.  But all cylinders and
journal mic up okay so i am hopeful it's still going to work for me. 
 
Any ideas on why it's there and advice on whether it will be a problem? 
 
thanks, 
 
Peter Ferraro
1971 Cutlass
1996 Aurora
1998 Bravada
 
OCA# 36530

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 07:22:26 -0400
From: "M. Gillespie" <mick442@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: H*lp with a "hole" in my 455

 > Upon examination of the block I found a hole .... yes a hole.  Facing the
> front of the block it is to the right and above the cam hole.  It is on
> the wall that would separate the timing chain area from the lifter galley.
> There is an outline of a recess that was part of the original casting and
> this hole is slightly smaller than that recess.  Was a plug there
> originally?  Or did someone punch it out for oil to get to the back side
> of the timing chain????.  The edges of the hole are ragged (wasnt machined
> out) and the hole is about an 1" in dia.
>
The hole is meant to be there for oil return from the heads. It is a good
idea to smooth it out and open it up for better oil return.
If you look at the top deck of the block you will see a smaller hole in the
corner of the block (4 corners actually), where the oil returns from the
heads. It's a good idea to open these up and smooth them out too. Anything
you can do to facilitate oil return from the top of the engine is a good
idea.

Mick Gillespie
1969 442 Conv. (clone)
1980 Toro
http://members.rogers.com/mick442/oldspage.htm

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:03:39 -0400
From: "Roc88ket" <roc88ket@comcast.net>
Subject: 2003 Aurora Final 500

Anyone out there happen to know of a 2003 Aurora Final 500 for sale? Looking
for one in mint condition, preferably closer to NJ.

Would settle for a regular '03 in mint condition if I had to.

John Sanders

'53 88
'01 Aurora 4.0

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:58:19 -0400
From: "Pat Swanton \"swanny\"" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: NADA classic car online value guide - was "Now THAT's close to home!"

We so-called rednecks up here that are into cars and repairing them, usually
most of  the honest ones anyway, have a friend who knows a guy that has a
favor owed by Joe Scmoe who needs something else for another .....and so on,
will work around such loop holes. We wouldn't do it for the little old lady
or the 16 year old newbie on the road, so they can just get a car on the
road.

I can understand FL laws for having that policy. There must be alot of rust
free cars that exsist there. If ones been in an accident, and it is unsafe
to drive, we won't do it either

Cheers
Pat Swanton
Winchester NH
1978 Cutlass Supreme
http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ecker" <ecker567@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: NADA classic car online value guide - was "Now THAT's close to
home!"


> No problem, Pat.  I'm an insurance claims adjuster by trade, so have
> some experience first hand in what these (and similar) vehicles can be
> worth if in good condition.
>
> Interesting about the title thing....  too bad NH is so far away and the
> car is too far along to be reasonably brought back to street-legal
> trim.  Not to mention that I do not have a dealer's license.....
>
> --
> Michael Ecker
> Lehigh Acres, Florida
> ecker567@comcast.net
>
> 1978 Cutlass Supreme - $500 purchase, being slowly fixed up
>    (in line for V6-to-403 swap soon, and maybe 200-4R and gears...)
>
> 1979 Cutlass Supreme Brougham - becoming a circle track car
>    (bought without title, had Certificate of Destruction so can never
>     be re-registered, but will uphold the Oldsmobile name with honor)
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:13:32 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser

Looking for a pair of matched taillight housings from a Custom Cruiser
fullsized wagon, year unimportant, from 1980-1990. Also looking for the
OLDSMOBILE or other emblems/badges on the tailgate, front grille, etc.
Anything out there?

Thanks,
SteveH

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:13:28 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: with a "hole" in my 455

Peter,

> Upon examination of the block I found a hole .... yes a hole.
> this hole is slightly smaller than that recess.  Was a plug there
> originally?


No!


> Or did someone punch it out for oil to get to the back side
> of the timing chain????.


Olds engineers put it there for further oil drain back to the oil pan on big
blocks. There's no room on the front of a small block for that oil drain
back hole, so it wasn't used on small blocks.


> The edges of the hole are ragged (wasnt machined
> out) and the hole is about an 1" in dia.


Typical cast hole in a typical iron casting.


> My hope is to smooth out the edge of the hole with my die grinder so no
> cracks propagate from it and than talk to a machine shop about repairing
> it.


There's nothing to repair. ***Do not "repair" it***!


> It is a low stress area so I am hopeful the engine is still usable.
> I have looked the block over and it seems to be the only thing wrong.


***There's nothing "wrong"***!


> Any ideas on why it's there and advice on whether it will be a problem?


If you are going to blueprint the engine, then you will want to ensure the
fastest oil return to the engine that's possible. If so, thoroughly grind,
deburr, and polish the inside of the block and heads. Open up all oil drain
back holes to maximum size, with special attention to the interface of head
and block. That means deburring all cast holes, like the one in the front of
the block, so oil will freely flow without any hindrance. Paint the entire
inside of the heads and block with Glyptal red electric motor paint. Throw
away the sheet metal baffle over the lifters. Now, the oil will race back to
the pan. That's exactly why the hole is there. The sheet metal baffle
interferes with oil return and the front hole alleviates it to some extent.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:37:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Amadei <stephen@amadei.com>
Subject: Re: Now THAT's close to home!

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 robert.demuth@prudential.com wrote:

> >>Cool, and no flame intended here, but once it's roadworthy, please don't
> even drive to the _corner_ without insurance on it. My own nightmare
> occurred three blocks from home. (To this day I'm glad I was insured.)<<
>
> Heh ... I've got you beat.  When I was in 6th grade, my Mom and I got hit
> when pulling into our driveway!  Seems the guy coming up behind us on the
> suburban side street we lived on was unhappy with our speed and attempted
> to pass us as we left turned into our driveway.  That little 85 Chrysler
> minivan was never the same after that hit.  Don't even pull out of the
> driveway without insurance!

And in NJ, you don't even have to have an accident to be screwed.  I know
people who barely made it out of the driveway before being pulled over and
getting a big fat ticket from the cops for no insurance.  Then the next
insurance copany you get screws you for the next decade.  In fact, with
the new insurance penalties, I think the police are now entitled to shoot
you on the spot for no insurance.  Just a flash wound, though.  ;-)

					----Steve
Stephen Amadei
<Your Company Here!> CTO/CSO
Brigantine Beach, NJ

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:38:52 EDT
From: Rcktpwr2@aol.com
Subject: Re: For sale 94

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Where are you located? Does this car have ABS? Hope your kid was OK  in the 
wreck.
 
  Bernie NJ

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:49:52 EDT
From: Rcktpwr2@aol.com
Subject: Lower Patch panels, Fenders,  67 A-body

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  Bernie NJ

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:54:49 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Old manuals

All,
I got this link from mom this morning.  Thought it might be of interest to 
some.

M

http://www.tocmp.com/


Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:18:46 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: with a "hole" in my 455

A question, if you will, Milton. First, I haven't had a real chance to
study the innards of an Olds block, either small or big. So I dunno.

At 10:13 AM 7/5/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Throw away the sheet metal baffle over the lifters. Now, the oil 
>will race back to the pan. That's exactly why the hole is there. 
>The sheet metal baffle interferes with oil return and the front 
>hole alleviates it to some extent.

First off: the oil drain holes from the head through the deck just dump
into the corners of the lifter gallery, right? Oil then tends to fill the
"valleys" adjacent to the rearmost lifter bores before overflowing and
spilling directly downward through the opening above the camshaft, right?

The purpose of that sheet metal baffle is reduce the spray of hot oil onto
the bottom of the intake manifold, right? This oil is sprayed from both the
camshaft lobes after dripping onto the lobes from overflowing from the
"valleys" on either side of the block adjacent to the lifter bores, right?
And there's more spray from the lifters, theirselves.

What I'm wondering is whether an inverted pan over the lifters would be
better in terms of directing sprayed oil back down into those various
"valleys". The existing pan tends to collect oil which then overfills the
pan to drip, I suppose, off the rear of the pan. So eliminate the
possibility of the pan to act as a pan and make an inverted "pan" that can
have edges shaped so that oil will tend to flow and drip off the shapes
where it's wanted, such as the distributor/camshaft gear and perhaps onto
the front lifters (which obviously won't get as much oil dripped onto them
since oil would tend to flow back from the elevated front of the engine).

What hey?

SteveH

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:13:38 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: with a "hole" in my 455

> First off: the oil drain holes from the head through the deck just dump
> into the corners of the lifter gallery, right?


Right.


> Oil then tends to fill the
> "valleys" adjacent to the rearmost lifter bores before overflowing and
> spilling directly downward through the opening above the camshaft, right?


Right.


> The purpose of that sheet metal baffle is reduce the spray of hot oil onto
> the bottom of the intake manifold, right?


That's the idea, but I've never seen a need for it. The hated Chevys don't
use one, and I've never seen any oil charring. However, I've seen a lot of
oil charring with oil trapped between the top of the Olds turkey tray and
the bottom of the intake. My attitude is that oil splash on the bottom side
of an unobstructed intake doesn't stay there long enough to char and may
even bleed off a little heat.


> This oil is sprayed from both the
> camshaft lobes after dripping onto the lobes from overflowing from the
> "valleys" on either side of the block adjacent to the lifter bores, right?
> And there's more spray from the lifters, theirselves.


Okay.


> What I'm wondering is whether an inverted pan over the lifters would be
> better in terms of directing sprayed oil back down into those various
> "valleys". The existing pan tends to collect oil which then overfills the
> pan to drip, I suppose, off the rear of the pan. So eliminate the
> possibility of the pan to act as a pan and make an inverted "pan" that can
> have edges shaped so that oil will tend to flow and drip off the shapes
> where it's wanted, such as the distributor/camshaft gear and perhaps onto
> the front lifters (which obviously won't get as much oil dripped onto them
> since oil would tend to flow back from the elevated front of the engine).


Yes, that is a possibility, just as long as no oil is ever trapped between
the new built deflector pan and the bottom of the intake to char. I still
vote for the potential cooling affect of that oil splash and spray on the
bottom of the intake manifold. I like that idea.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:21:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser

Steve, last year or prior I could have gotten you everything you needed
from a local junqueyarde that had all sorts of RWD GM fullsizers,
including at least 2 Custom Cruisers, one of which was a near-mint '89
when I first saw it a couple of years back. But I was there about 6 weeks
ago and he crushed most everything. No market anymore, he said. Now he's
into mostly FWD stuff. Sad.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 17:34:44 -0400
From: "Pat Swanton \"swanny\"" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser

Greg,

The same thing is happening here in NH. The ricers are the prime market
"junkable cars" for the "new" enthusaists of ricedom. It's more or less a
fact of cashing in on the steel prices ~ I don't know what the price of
steel is today~ and the fact that these kids who own these winged wonders,
have daddies or mommies $money

Most junk yards that I have around here are not wanting to keep up space
with older cars, and if they do have them they most likely won't sell them
as a whole car.

I now wish I would have kept the '78s and '79s i've had as parts cars.

Cheers
Pat Swanton
Winchester NH
1978 Cutlass Supreme
http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Beaulieu" <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser


> Steve, last year or prior I could have gotten you everything you needed
> from a local junqueyarde that had all sorts of RWD GM fullsizers,
> including at least 2 Custom Cruisers, one of which was a near-mint '89
> when I first saw it a couple of years back. But I was there about 6 weeks
> ago and he crushed most everything. No market anymore, he said. Now he's
> into mostly FWD stuff. Sad.
>
> Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
>           Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com
>
>

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:18:56 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser

At 06:21 PM 7/5/2004 -0300, you wrote:
>Steve, last year or prior I could have gotten you everything 
>you needed from a local junqueyarde that had all sorts of RWD 
>GM fullsizers, including at least 2 Custom Cruisers, one of 
>which was a near-mint '89 when I first saw it a couple of years 
>back. But I was there about 6 weeks ago and he crushed most 
>everything. No market anymore, he said. Now he's into mostly 
>FWD stuff. Sad.

Yeah, I know; it's the same almost anywhere now.

I took the wife to WallyWorld and waited for her in the car in the parking
lot. While sitting there reading a novel, some guy and his wife walked past
on the way to their own gigantic SUV (afterward, I turned around to see
what THEY had; not that I really gave the least bit of shooey). It took me
a few seconds to realize what the guy said as he passed me; but it was "Get
a new car, idiot,".

I'm fast approaching my limit of tolerance for the attitudes of people
around here.

I was sitting in my 1988 BBA; that's new enough for me. If I'd heard him
the first time, I would have responded something like:

"No monthly payments;
low insurance payments;
anything that hits me will get totaled while I'll drive away;
20 mile per gallon gas mileage;
250,000 mile reliability; and 
I can fix it myself IF it does break!"
;o\  ;o\  ;o\


SteveH

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:10:22 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: A-body disc brake conversion

There's a guy on the Chevelle list saying that he is putting Porsche Cayenne
calipers and Audi 15" rotors on a 68 Chevelle. If he can do it, you can do
it to a Cutlass too. Just figured I'd throw it out there. Sounds like it
oughta be able to make you go slow really fast.

John Nasta

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:18:58 -0400
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser

What are you planning, Steve??!?

Chris
- ----- Original Message ----- 

> Looking for a pair of matched taillight housings from a Custom Cruiser
> fullsized wagon, year unimportant, from 1980-1990. Also looking for the
> OLDSMOBILE or other emblems/badges on the tailgate, front grille, etc.
> Anything out there?
> 
> Thanks,
> SteveH

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:29:42 -0400
From: "John Orr" <olds330@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: A-body disc brake conversion

hey john,
  I would like to hear more about that swap!
john
67 cutlass supreme

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:28:18 -0400
From: "Randy Geisel" <rocket455@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: A-body disc brake conversion

> There's a guy on the Chevelle list saying that he is putting Porsche
Cayenne
> calipers and Audi 15" rotors on a 68 Chevelle.

Did he give any details such as year/s of the donor parts? Any mods?

Curious minds want to know.

Randy

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:56:14 EDT
From: Rcktpwr2@aol.com
Subject: Re: A-body disc brake conversion

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What about the original list or website for the B-body disc brake swap?  
Anyone have the info or know of that website? Thanks,
 
  Bernie

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:06:33 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: A-body disc brake conversion

Unfortunately I deleted his original email. I'll have to look for the
details in what he said threaded into someone's reply (hopefully). I'm sure
there will be more discussion about it. People are already bugging him to
post pictures. I'll forward the important info to this list.

John Nasta



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> There's a guy on the Chevelle list saying that he is putting Porsche
Cayenne
> calipers and Audi 15" rotors on a 68 Chevelle.

Did he give any details such as year/s of the donor parts? Any mods?

Curious minds want to know.

Randy

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:28:56 -0400
From: "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: A-body disc brake conversion

There's a guy on the Chevelle list saying that he is putting Porsche Cayenne
calipers and Audi 15" rotors on a 68 Chevelle. If he can do it, you can do
it to a Cutlass too. Just figured I'd throw it out there. Sounds like it
oughta be able to make you go slow really fast.

Couldn't you get the same result with after market kits for a lot less
money?
Isn't Porsche German for Big Bucks?

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:40:57 -0400
From: "Joe" <w30442@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Need help id parts

I scored a small parts load. I need help identifying what they came from. If
anyone can help I would appreciate it.
Thanks
Joe
http://community.webshots.com/album/159597034QabElU

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:42:47 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: A-body disc brake conversion

The guy lives in Italy.


- -----Original Message-----
 
Couldn't you get the same result with after market kits for a lot less
money?
Isn't Porsche German for Big Bucks?

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 20:46:19 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}

All,
	I just had THE BEST EXPERIENCE of my life this past week involving:

C&G Auto & Transmission
1525 Brandi Lane
Round Rock, TX
512-963-0863
512-698-5720

Owners:  Gene Chavez & Jeff Rogers.

I know this is a WORLD WIDE mailing list, but I also know that many people
lurk and gather information, and for that reason I post this email.

1st off to clarify the location, take 79 @ IH-35 (Exit 253?) and go West.
Go across the train tracks, and continue, to where the road starts to turn
to the right.  At that point Brandi Lane is on the left.  The are the 2nd
BLDG on the left.

I had the ring, pinion, axle BRGS & seals, and a posi Eaton carrier
installed in my daily driver; 9C1.  I supplied the parts, and Gene installed
them.

Gene couldn't quite get the rear end ring and pinion wear pattern to be
"perfect" (I'm not familiar at ALL with the description of wear patterns
involved), by .002".

I got Gene into contact with the direct supplier of the ring and pinion and
he spoke with the tech and got the rear end wear pattern to be perfect (no
longer .002" off).

Gene LITERALLY removed and installed and tried, and tried, to get the
correct wear pattern, and ended up removing and installing the setup a DOZEN
times, trying to get the correct pattern.

Gene got everything working perfectly and buttoned up the rear and took the
car for a spin.  He told me he took the car up beyond 100MPH and it was
smooth as silk, with no noise what so ever.

He called me up, and told me the success story, and told me to come down, as
he was pulling the cover, installing the new gasket, and was going to show
me the posi carrier and everything installed.  I had Dad drive me to the
shop, and Gene showed me the internals, and the wear pattern, and buttoned
up the rear with new gasket, posi additive, and Castrol gear oil.

LONG story short.  Gene treated me so professionally and stuck by his word
to get the parts installed.  HE STUCK FIRM TO the $350.00 INSTALL/QUOTE
PRICE, even thought the ring & pinion gave him so much trouble.

We talked a while, and he told me that he has done rears so many times it
was ridiculous, and showed me pictures of his past race cars, and of course
the "When I was younger" stories {No offense meant}.

I just wanted to really recommend the shop so HIGHLY, because I haven't been
SO SATISFIED {hence the CAPS} with ANY shop in such a long time, I had to
share my experience.

I will be taking Gene my M-22 to take a look at before I install it behind
my killer 455 for my 1970 C/S.

I will also have Gene do the same (Ring, pinion, & carrier) to my Cutlass.

IF ANYONE NEEDS A REAR OR TRANNY DONE, SEE THESE GUYS!!  I am thrilled at
the quality and professionalism of the job and mechanics/owners.

If anyone wants further details, feel free to drop me a note privately too!

Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com 

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