
oldsmobile-digest        Friday, July 2 2004        Volume 01 : Number 4939



RE: the W-31 is now legal AND my personalized IL plate
RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps
RE: Dist'r vacuum
Re: the W-31 is now legal AND my personalized IL plate
Exhaust Systems
w-31 now legal
OAI and Manifold Choices
RE: Exhaust Systems
Re: w-31 now legal
Trans Cooler Attachment Info
RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps
Re: Exhaust Systems
Re: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps
Re: w-31 now legal
Re: w-31 now legal
It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!
Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!
71 toro 455
Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!
Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!
Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!
disc brakes
Re: w-31 now legal
Re: disc brakes
RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps
RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps
Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!
Re: 3800 plastic vacuum block
Fw: '76 parts
Re: 71 toro 455
New Email address    "mearl.francis@gmail.com"
Re:B,
Re: B, C car parts

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:33:34 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: the W-31 is now legal AND my personalized IL plate

>However, I do have my temporary plate which is good for 3 months,
>so I can now drive the W-31.  The only problem with this is
>a) no insurance
[...]
>Insurance is the next major paperwork item to take care of with
>this car.  But the clock has begun.  My goal is to have her on
>the road before the end of the month.

Cool, and no flame intended here, but once it's roadworthy, please don't 
even drive to the _corner_ without insurance on it. My own nightmare 
occurred three blocks from home. (To this day I'm glad I was insured.)

- -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:46:29 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps

> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:09:18 -0700
> From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps
> 
> >"All the headaches of headers"???
> 
> How do you get to your starter? Simple in and out?

Yes, after figuring out how to do it. It won't drop straight down now since the header and oil pan don't have enough clearance for it to pass through, so it has to be slid forward and tilted to get it out; reverse the procedure to get it back in. One advantage to this is now I can "trap" it between the header and oil pan while I connect the wiring - no more trying to hold a heavy starter up with one hand while attempting to connect the wires with the other. 

> No rerouting starter wiring not to cook it?

The wires are in the factory location, routed through the tube that's attached to the frame. No melted wires in the last 22 years the headers have been on the car.


> Your motor mounts, don't they look like roasted marshmellows?

No, they do not.

> You undrhood temps, are they what they were before?

No, but that's because I now live in Phoenix where it's 117º in the shade, if you can actually find any :) Ceramic coated headers will help reduce underhood temps if that's something that really bothers you. I have never had any issues with elevated underhood temps, such as failing ignition modules, fried alternators or voltage regulators, melted belts, etc. I can honestly say that elevated underhood temps have never given me any "headaches".

> Have you done the lower suspension cotrol arms? The long bolts sometimes hit the headers.

Yes, the bolt hits the header, but just how often do you remove lower control arms? I have not had a need to remove mine since the last engine rebuild back in '90 or '91 when I also redid the suspension bushings. I figure when I pull the engine to install the big block I'll also install new polygraphite bushings while the headers are out. Even if I had to do bushing work with the engine in the car, it's a simple matter of removing the header bolts and moving the headers slightly to gain clearance for the control arm bolt. Hardly a "headache" to worry much about.


> Just a few things I'd call a headache. I had them with my 
> hooker super comps on the 68 S.
> 
> George

Well, most of these "headaches" are things that would only come into play so rarely that I wouldn't even worry about them. But that's just me. I have more issues with the rear sway bar on my car increasing the time it takes me to swap rear ends (which I do quite often), but I'm not likely to leave it off since the benefits it provides are much greater than the small inconvenience it presents at wrench time. Like the sway bar, I feel that headers provide more benefits on a daily basis than the small inconveniences they present during such things as control arm or starter R&R.

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:16:28 GMT
From: "njot33@juno.com" <njot33@juno.com>
Subject: RE: Dist'r vacuum

Advancing the ignition timing absolutely WILL help an engine run cooler.

I have a brand X 70s model in which the timing is set at 5 degrees BTDC.  In the summer it always runs hot.  If I advance the timing 5 degrees or so, it stays cool even on the hottest days.

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:44:55 -0400
From: Paul White <oldslist@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: the W-31 is now legal AND my personalized IL plate

Shoot,
In Virginia you have to have insurance before they will give you ANY 
tags, even antiques. You guys got it made in Illinois....

paulbunyan

grp442@yahoo.com wrote:

> So, I took half a day yesterday to spend it at the local BMV (always a 
> fun time).  I needed to get a sticker for my trailer, FINALLY get an 
> IL drivers license and then apply for an IL title and plates for the 
> W-31.  I'll skip the stories about the 2 rather unhelpful people I 
> talked to and go right to the title/registration for the W-31.  An 
> attractive woman auditor was helping me, so that was a plus.  She 
> looked at the tax form and said nice car, I replied thanks.  I found 
> out some interesting things regarding IL personalized plates.  You 
> can't start with "W", those signify handicapped.  So that throws out 
> like half my choices (have about a dozen).  I also found out for a 
> passenger car plate you can't start with a number either.  
> Personalized plates for a B class truck CAN start with a number.  
> DOH!!!  So throw out a few more of my choices.  But Tina (her name is 
> Tina in case you were wondering) said she could check to see if my 
> choices were available.  COOL!!!!!  Finally something good about the 
> IL process.  Indiana is sooooooo much easier in this area, I think.  
> So my choices in order of preference are 1. "OAI 69"  2. "I B STK 2"  
> 3. "ITSA W31".  I should be getting a letter in about 2 weeks stating 
> which choice I received.  Then in approx 2 months I'll get the 
> plates.  However, I do have my temporary plate which is good for 3 
> months, so I can now drive the W-31.  The only problem with this is a) 
> no insurance b) the original engine isn't in (at least not yet).  But 
> hopefully James Aiello lets me come over this weekend and start that 
> process.  I also asked Tina what advantages there are to getting an 
> antique vehicle plate.  Well, there really aren't any other than the 
> plate is good for 5 years.  I asked if this plate means I'm exempt 
> from emissions testing and she replied no.  :-(    But, she did let me 
> in on a little secret.  I can talk to my insurance agent and get 'show 
> car' insurance and this would exempt me from emissions testing.  Hmm, 
> interesting.  Insurance is the next major paperwork item to take care 
> of with this car.  But the clock has begun.  My goal is to have her on 
> the road before the end of the month.  Although, I may not get a few 
> items back from the powder coater in time and I haven't even called 
> them to see about a time frame.  So we shall see.
>  
> Chris Smetana
> grp442@yahoo.com <mailto:grp442@yahoo.com>
>  
> 1969 Cutlass S W-31   now legal to be on the roads
> 1970 F-85   always been legal, but have to pass emissions by end of 
> the month.
> 1969 442 parts car
> 1970 F-85 parts car
> plus a whole mess of parts for sale
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:50:40 -0400
From: "David Popadic" <davepopadic@core.com>
Subject: Exhaust Systems

With all this talk of headers and such, it got me thinking.  I've been 
thinking about replacing my leaking single exhaust for awhile.  I'm 
looking for a fairly simple bolt-in system (if such a thing even exists)
.  I have a 67 Cutlass (convertible) with an 1978 Olds 350 (from a 98).  
What I would like is something that is fairly quiet while cruising but 
makes alittle (not tons) noise during fast acceleration.  Looking for 
headers/exhaust suggestions?

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:56:23 -0400
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: w-31 now legal

Shoot,
In Virginia you have to have insurance before they will give you ANY 
tags, even antiques. You guys got it made in Illinois....

In Ohio all you have to do is sign an affadavit stating you have 
insurance. Everyone signs whether they have insurance or not. We have an 
e-check and proof of insurance could easily be required at the same time.
John Kelsey
Dayton ohio

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:07:31 -0400
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
Subject: OAI and Manifold Choices

Ian,

The Eddy Performer WILL NOT FIT an Olds Ram Air hood.

The only aftermarket intake that fits is the Eddy O4B. That is it.

Trust me, I spent a lot of time on this!

Paul Tumolo, Principal
Edusult Performance Systems
6 Clark Street
Medway, MA 02053
Office: 508-482-0184
Mobile: 508-789-8191
E-mail: ptumolo@comcast.net
Website: www.edusult.com
 

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:07:58 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Exhaust Systems

The Flowmaster systems are very easy to install. They are usually happy to
swap out the 30s for 50s if you want a system that is not as loud. I have
the 50s and like them. They have a deeper sound than the 30s IMO.

John Nasta



- -----Original Message-----

With all this talk of headers and such, it got me thinking.  I've been
thinking about replacing my leaking single exhaust for awhile.  I'm
looking for a fairly simple bolt-in system (if such a thing even exists)
.  I have a 67 Cutlass (convertible) with an 1978 Olds 350 (from a 98).
What I would like is something that is fairly quiet while cruising but
makes alittle (not tons) noise during fast acceleration.  Looking for
headers/exhaust suggestions?

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:10:10 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: w-31 now legal

NH....live free or die

All you need is a bill with your address on it, and $$

Pat Swanton
Winchester NH
1978 Cutlass Supreme
http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Kelsey" <ribspot@pop4.net>
To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: w-31 now legal


> Shoot,
> In Virginia you have to have insurance before they will give you ANY 
> tags, even antiques. You guys got it made in Illinois....
> 
> In Ohio all you have to do is sign an affadavit stating you have 
> insurance. Everyone signs whether they have insurance or not. We have an 
> e-check and proof of insurance could easily be required at the same time.
> John Kelsey
> Dayton ohio
> 

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:18:11 -0400
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
Subject: Trans Cooler Attachment Info

I also found a way to connect an aftermarket trans cooler to the GM hard
>lines without using any rubber hose or clamps.....

OK......

Parker Hannifin part number PAR 48IFHD-5-4

Parker Hannifin part number PAR 203-4-6

You will need 2 of each. Total cost of $4.60

HTH




Paul Tumolo, Principal
Edusult Performance Systems
6 Clark Street
Medway, MA 02053
Office: 508-482-0184
Mobile: 508-789-8191
E-mail: ptumolo@comcast.net
Website: www.edusult.com
 

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:28:00 +0000
From: 77w30442@comcast.net
Subject: RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps

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on my 455 the starter was easy to change. from what i have been told the headers of coarse make more power but the difference depends on the  engine's potential. i wont argu headers are a bitch at times espeacealy when r&r trans. but i like the look.
take care 
ron
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> At 06:09 PM 6/30/2004 -0700, you wrote: 
> > 
> >>"All the headaches of headers"??? 
> > 
> >How do you get to your starter? Simple in and out? 
> 
> Mine was. 
> 
> >No rerouting starter wiring not to cook it? 
> 
> No more than the usual routing to clear the cast iron guys and pipes. 
> 
> >Your motor mounts, don't they look like roasted marshmellows? 
> 
> Mine never did. 
> 
> >You undrhood temps, are they what they were before? 
> 
> Hood?? you use a hood?? :o))))))) 
> 
> >Have you done the lower suspension cotrol arms? The long bolts sometimes 
> >hit the headers. 
> 
> Mine didn't. 
> 
> >Just a few things I'd call a headache. I had them with my hooker super 
> >comps on the 68 S. 
> 
> AHHhhh... I was thinking bout my ole '64 and '66 Goats with the 421s, way 
> back yonder in the medieval '70s :o))))))) 
> 
> SteveH 
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:35:00 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Exhaust Systems

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In a message dated 7/1/2004 1:53:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
davepopadic@core.com writes:

I have a  67 Cutlass (convertible) with an 1978 Olds 350 (from a 98).  
What I  would like is something that is fairly quiet while cruising but 
makes  alittle (not tons) noise during fast acceleration.  Looking for  
headers/exhaust suggestions?



I put on Thorley's. Ceramic coated inside and out. Fit well, tuck under  real 
tight. About $550 from Summit racing. I've got Flowmasters. Sounds good  too.
 
Bruce
75  Delta 88 Conv. (duals, of course)
72 Cutlass Conv.
56 190 SL Conv.
92  Eldo

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:38:57 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps

I put Hedmans on my '78 11 years ago.
The starter is tight, but its not that bad. I've been in tighter spots
changing exhaust manifold gaskets on a V6 Fiero.

I'd rather do the sarter/transmission combo any day.

For future thought on headers, and if you worry about gasket leaks, use 2
steel embossed gaskets. 11 years and no leaks.

I also recommend a "good" header with 14 gauge tubes, and 5/16 inch
flanges.....

Contrary to popular belief, saving $$$ in this area is not a good idea.

This is my humble opinion and just that.

Cheers.
Pat Swanton
Winchester NH
1978 Cutlass Supreme
http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps


> on my 455 the starter was easy to change. from what i have been told the
headers of coarse make more power but the difference depends on the
engine's potential. i wont argu headers are a bitch at times espeacealy when
r&r trans. but i like the look.
> take care
> ron
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > At 06:09 PM 6/30/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>"All the headaches of headers"???
> > >
> > >How do you get to your starter? Simple in and out?
> >
> > Mine was.
> >
> > >No rerouting starter wiring not to cook it?
> >
> > No more than the usual routing to clear the cast iron guys and pipes.
> >
> > >Your motor mounts, don't they look like roasted marshmellows?
> >
> > Mine never did.
> >
> > >You undrhood temps, are they what they were before?
> >
> > Hood?? you use a hood?? :o)))))))
> >
> > >Have you done the lower suspension cotrol arms? The long bolts
sometimes
> > >hit the headers.
> >
> > Mine didn't.
> >
> > >Just a few things I'd call a headache. I had them with my hooker super
> > >comps on the 68 S.
> >
> > AHHhhh... I was thinking bout my ole '64 and '66 Goats with the 421s,
way
> > back yonder in the medieval '70s :o)))))))
> >
> > SteveH

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:24:28 -0400
From: Paul White <oldslist@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: w-31 now legal

We used to be like that in VA till 9/11...those assholes screwed it up 
for EVERYBODY!!!!

swannys78@adelphia.net wrote:

>NH....live free or die
>
>All you need is a bill with your address on it, and $$
>
>Pat Swanton
>Winchester NH
>1978 Cutlass Supreme
>http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "John Kelsey" <ribspot@pop4.net>
>To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 1:56 PM
>Subject: w-31 now legal
>
>
>  
>
>>Shoot,
>>In Virginia you have to have insurance before they will give you ANY 
>>tags, even antiques. You guys got it made in Illinois....
>>
>>In Ohio all you have to do is sign an affadavit stating you have 
>>insurance. Everyone signs whether they have insurance or not. We have an 
>>e-check and proof of insurance could easily be required at the same time.
>>John Kelsey
>>Dayton ohio
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:35:07 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: w-31 now legal

~snip~We used to be like that in VA till 9/11...those assholes screwed it up
for EVERYBODY!!!!~snip~

We're not even done getting screwed.....We still have to spend billions of
dollars rebuilding the friggin desert......

Too political, and my apologies.......

Cheers.
Pat Swanton
Winchester NH
1978 Cutlass Supreme
http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:15:59 -0500
From: OLDSmobility <OLDSmobility@cableone.net>
Subject: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!

Hey all! Just thought I'd let you know that at 9:19 AM this morning, my 
wife Mary and I became the proud parents of a perfect little baby boy!

It was a major surprise, since we were told during the ultrasound 
several months ago that we were going to have a girl! We'd picked out a 
girl's name and purchased several little girl outfits to bring her home 
from the hospital in...so you can imagine our surprise when we 
discovered some....uh....'extra plumbing' on the new little one. We had 
to enlist the help of family to go on a clothing run, so we'd have 
something appropriate to dress him in for the pictures and the ride home.

So anyway....Jacob Scott was 7 lbs. 4 oz and 20-1/2" long and is a 
perfect little baby boy. He's got light-colored hair and blue eyes, just 
like his older brother Trevor (who's almost 2). Mom and Jake are doing 
great and will most likely get to come home tomorrow.

Life is good!!

Keith

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:24:59 -0400
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!

Congratulations! Many more years of saving for college!
Just don't sell the Olds. LOL

Pat Swanton
Winchester NH
1978 Cutlass Supreme
http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "OLDSmobility" <OLDSmobility@cableone.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!


> Hey all! Just thought I'd let you know that at 9:19 AM this morning, my 
> wife Mary and I became the proud parents of a perfect little baby boy!
> 
> It was a major surprise, since we were told during the ultrasound 
> several months ago that we were going to have a girl! We'd picked out a 
> girl's name and purchased several little girl outfits to bring her home 
> from the hospital in...so you can imagine our surprise when we 
> discovered some....uh....'extra plumbing' on the new little one. We had 
> to enlist the help of family to go on a clothing run, so we'd have 
> something appropriate to dress him in for the pictures and the ride home.
> 
> So anyway....Jacob Scott was 7 lbs. 4 oz and 20-1/2" long and is a 
> perfect little baby boy. He's got light-colored hair and blue eyes, just 
> like his older brother Trevor (who's almost 2). Mom and Jake are doing 
> great and will most likely get to come home tomorrow.
> 
> Life is good!!
> 
> Keith
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:51:00 EDT
From: Sm7442@aol.com
Subject: 71 toro 455

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         In case anyone interested my bother has 71 toro 72 thousand miles 
for sale kind of rusty not terrible been sitting for 5 yr charged battery and 
started up good for that amount of time in garage.Car located in ohio has holley 
carb on it?? 455 also still has oe qjet that goes with it 

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:46:28 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!

At Thursday, 01 July 2004, you wrote:

>Hey all! Just thought I'd let you know that at 9:19 AM this 
>morning, my wife Mary and I became the proud parents of a 
>perfect little baby boy!

Congrats!

Every one of our three came during the midnight shift  ;o\  The first 
two started out in late afternoon/early evening then dragged the 
ordeal out into the early morning hours. #3, though, was in a bigger 
hurry and only took 3 hours from start to appearance  ;o)

SteveH



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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:20:50 -0400
From: "John Orr" <olds330@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!

  Keith,  
  I am with the rest of them "Congratulations!"  
john 
67 cutlass supreme 4-speed

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:06:00 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!

congrats
sincerly
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "OLDSmobility" <OLDSmobility@cableone.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!


> Hey all! Just thought I'd let you know that at 9:19 AM this morning, my 
> wife Mary and I became the proud parents of a perfect little baby boy!
> 
> It was a major surprise, since we were told during the ultrasound 
> several months ago that we were going to have a girl! We'd picked out a 
> girl's name and purchased several little girl outfits to bring her home 
> from the hospital in...so you can imagine our surprise when we 
> discovered some....uh....'extra plumbing' on the new little one. We had 
> to enlist the help of family to go on a clothing run, so we'd have 
> something appropriate to dress him in for the pictures and the ride home.
> 
> So anyway....Jacob Scott was 7 lbs. 4 oz and 20-1/2" long and is a 
> perfect little baby boy. He's got light-colored hair and blue eyes, just 
> like his older brother Trevor (who's almost 2). Mom and Jake are doing 
> great and will most likely get to come home tomorrow.
> 
> Life is good!!
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: JEFFREY LISLE <jeffslisle@yahoo.com>
Subject: disc brakes

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Will '72 A-body power disc brakes fit on '65 Cutlass w/ power drums?  I have the whole set-up to swap over. Thanks Jeff

		
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:13:50 -0500
From: "JBS" <jbschuren@houston.rr.com>
Subject: Re: w-31 now legal

driving these cars.... you'll end up appreciating the work being done :)


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "swanny" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: w-31 now legal


>
> ~snip~We used to be like that in VA till 9/11...those assholes screwed it
up
> for EVERYBODY!!!!~snip~
>
> We're not even done getting screwed.....We still have to spend billions of
> dollars rebuilding the friggin desert......
>
> Too political, and my apologies.......
>
> Cheers.
> Pat Swanton
> Winchester NH
> 1978 Cutlass Supreme
> http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78
>
>

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:21:23 EDT
From: S61starfir@aol.com
Subject: Re: disc brakes

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In a message dated 7/1/2004 9:01:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeffslisle@yahoo.com writes:

Will '72 A-body power disc brakes fit on '65 Cutlass w/ power  drums?  I have 
the whole set-up to swap over. Thanks  Jeff



    I know of two people who have done it and it worked  fine
 
 
Everett   OCA# 1961   1961  Starfire

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:45:34 -0700
From: geo.aigel@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps

>Well, most of these "headaches" are things that would only come into play 
>so rarely that I wouldn't even worry about them. But that's just me.

That's exactly what a headache is to me. Doesn't show up often, is a side 
effect that I can try to ignore, but it is just extra pain that I can not 
easily factor in. I just wanted to help folks to understand what potential 
header headaches are. I hate nothing more than if things don't come apart 
or go together easy or as intended by the original design. It is a trade 
off and I understand why people have a headache every now and then for an 
extra 30 horse! ;) The header opinions are a re-occurring battle on this 
list. Too bad Padavano is gone, I always could raise hell with him! It 
became a game in the end...

George

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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 03:47:37 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps

At 07:45 PM 7/1/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Too bad Padavano is gone, I always could raise hell with him! It 
>became a game in the end...
>
>George

DANG.... so YER the turkey that chased him off  ;o\  ;o\  ;o\

j/k, George  :o)

SteveH

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:53:31 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: It's a girl!...no, wait...it's a BOY!!

Congratulations, Keith.


Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:59:44 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: 3800 plastic vacuum block

At 01:26 PM 6/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>All,
>
>There is on the top of the intake near the MAF unit a plastic vacuum block
>with 4 tubes on it.  At least on the C-code 3800 motor, don't know if it's
>changed later on.  Also appears to be identical on the 3300 V6.
>
>Being plastic, they get brittle.  Being clumsy, I have a tendency to do
>damage to it while accessing other things.
>
>I've got a very rushed patch-job done so that it doesn't leak for now, but
>it's ugly.
>
>Does anyone sell these things new?  Are they available in metal?  Or is it
>junkyard only?

You may be able to find one that'll work in the plastic blister HELP!!
packages at yer local parts store. They do have half a dozen packages with
all types of different type of plastic adapters like these.

If I really get in a crunch for something like this, I make my own by
soldering together pieces of steel brake line or fuel tubing, or preferably
copper tubing.

SteveH

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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 06:45:34 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Fw: '76 parts

any one have use for  these parts
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe & Gloria Varley" <carcouple@cox.net>
To: <77w30442@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:23 AM
Subject: '76 parts


> Hi Ron,
> 
> Just read a bunch of postings on the Yahoo '73-77 Cutlass pages.  I don't 
> have time for another list, so could you please mention that I am parting a 
> mostly rust free AZ  '76  Y76 car.  Soft stuff gone, but some nice sheet 
> metal, and almost all mechanicals still there.  It will go to the junkyard 
> pretty soon.  I hate to see rust free quarters, floors, gas tanks, etc go 
> to the yarde when I read about guys bitching because they can't get 
> quarters, doors, etc for their 73-77's.
> 
> Car is near Phoenix.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe Varley
>      AZ
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:15:38 -0400
From: Paul White <oldslist@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: 71 toro 455

Im interested in the motor if it does run. Is it still for sale?

paul

Sm7442@aol.com wrote:

>          In case anyone interested my bother has 71 toro 72 thousand 
> miles for sale kind of rusty not terrible been sitting for 5 yr 
> charged battery and started up good for that amount of time in 
> garage.Car located in ohio has holley carb on it?? 455 also still has 
> oe qjet that goes with it 

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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:16:22 -0400 
From: Mearl Francis <Mearl.Francis@TRACO.COM>
Subject: New Email address    "mearl.francis@gmail.com"

Can you change my Email Address on the list to: mearl.francis@gmail.com
Thank You
Mearl

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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:46:35 EDT
From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
Subject: Re:B,

 

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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:50:53 EDT
From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
Subject: Re: B, C car parts

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Hi Guys,
       Wasn't someone looking for a lower control arm for a big car a few 
months ago?  Here is an ad from 442.com with a bunch of parts for the big cars.  
They look to be NOS too:         
6/28/2004 I purchased a number of Olds parts a while back and there were some 
1971/72 - 88 and 98 front end parts in the mix. Most all od these parts are 
NOS and have never been on a car. There is some light surface rusting but all 
are in very good shape. Galvanized brake splash shields Part # 344024RH 4ea, 
Part # 344023LH 3ea, Knuckle/spindal Part # 3961262R 3ea & 3961261 L 4 ea, 
Caliper Part # 18005037 2ea & 5474052 L 1ea, Rotor 6274216 3ea, Lower Control arm 
Part # 343539 L 2ea. I also have a number of ball Joints both upper and lower. 
Please call and we can work out a fair price. Jerry renellja@sbcglobal.net 
805-490-2854 Ventura CA AD#52336 
Contact Jerry if interested.
Steve D

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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wasn't someone looking for a lower cont=
rol arm for a big car a few months ago?&nbsp; Here is an ad from 442.com wit=
h a bunch of parts for the big cars.&nbsp; They look to be NOS too:&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  <BR>
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l" LANG=3D"0"> I purchased a number of Olds parts a while back and there wer=
e some 1971/72 - 88 and 98 front end parts in the mix. Most all od these par=
ts are NOS and have never been on a car. There is some light surface rusting=
 but all are in very good shape. Galvanized brake splash shields Part # 3440=
24RH 4ea, Part # 344023LH 3ea, Knuckle/spindal Part # 3961262R 3ea &amp; 396=
1261 L 4 ea, Caliper Part # 18005037 2ea &amp; 5474052 L 1ea, Rotor 6274216=20=
3ea, Lower Control arm Part # 343539 L 2ea. I also have a number of ball Joi=
nts both upper and lower. Please call and we can work out a fair price. Jerr=
y <A HREF=3D"mailto:renellja@sbcglobal.net">renellja@sbcglobal.net</A> 805-4=
90-2854 Ventura CA AD#52336 </B><BR>
Contact Jerry if interested.<BR>
Steve D</FONT></HTML>

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