
oldsmobile-digest        Tuesday, July 6 2004        Volume 01 : Number 4943



Re: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
Re: A-body disc brake conversion
AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}
Re: Need help id parts
upcoming H/O meet
Testing sending PLAIN text as usual
AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}
AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}
AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}
AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!!
RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps
RE: A-body disc brake conversion
1970 service manual needed
330 steel crank?
Re: 330 steel crank?
Re: NADA classic car online value guide - was "Now THAT's close to home!"
Re: 330 steel crank?
New car idiots  was: Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
Re: I need an engine for my 1970 Olds 98
short & long tranny tailshafts
Re: 330 steel crank?
Re: short & long tranny tailshafts
Re: Hazard lights
Aurora opinions?
Re: Aurora opinions?
RE: Aurora opinions?
RE: Aurora opinions?
Rain Tires (fwd)
Re: 330 steel crank?
Re: Aurora opinions?

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 01:54:28 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser

At 08:18 PM 7/5/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>What are you planning, Steve??!?

Hehe.

Hehehe.

Bwuhahahahahahaha!!!!

;o)))))))))

SteveH

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:06:53 -0400
From: "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: A-body disc brake conversion

That explains a lot.
I guess Porsche and Audi parts are a lot less then Ferrari parts!
Does anyone over here make 15" rotor kits for GM?



The guy lives in Italy.


- -----Original Message-----

Couldn't you get the same result with after market kits for a lot less
money?
Isn't Porsche German for Big Bucks?

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:23:43 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}

All,
	I just had THE BEST EXPERIENCE of my life this past week involving:

C&G Auto & Transmission
1525 Brandi Lane
Round Rock, TX
512-963-0863
512-698-5720

Owners:  Gene Chavez & Jeff Rogers.

I know this is a WORLD WIDE mailing list, but I also know that many people
lurk and gather information, and for that reason I post this email.

1st off to clarify the location, take 79 @ IH-35 (Exit 253?) and go West.
Go across the train tracks, and continue, to where the road starts to turn
to the right.  At that point Brandi Lane is on the left.  The are the 2nd
BLDG on the left.

I had the ring, pinion, axle BRGS & seals, and a posi Eaton carrier
installed in my daily driver; 9C1.  I supplied the parts, and Gene installed
them.

Gene couldn't quite get the rear end ring and pinion wear pattern to be
"perfect" (I'm not familiar at ALL with the description of wear patterns
involved), by .002".

I got Gene into contact with the direct supplier of the ring and pinion and
he spoke with the tech and got the rear end wear pattern to be perfect (no
longer .002" off).

Gene LITERALLY removed and installed and tried, and tried, to get the
correct wear pattern, and ended up removing and installing the setup a DOZEN
times, trying to get the correct pattern.

Gene got everything working perfectly and buttoned up the rear and took the
car for a spin.  He told me he took the car up beyond 100MPH and it was
smooth as silk, with no noise what so ever.

He called me up, and told me the success story, and told me to come down, as
he was pulling the cover, installing the new gasket, and was going to show
me the posi carrier and everything installed.  I had Dad drive me to the
shop, and Gene showed me the internals, and the wear pattern, and buttoned
up the rear with new gasket, posi additive, and Castrol gear oil.

LONG story short.  Gene treated me so professionally and stuck by his word
to get the parts installed.  HE STUCK FIRM TO the $350.00 INSTALL/QUOTE
PRICE, even thought the ring & pinion gave him so much trouble.

We talked a while, and he told me that he has done rears so many times it
was ridiculous, and showed me pictures of his past race cars, and of course
the "When I was younger" stories {No offense meant}.

I just wanted to really recommend the shop so HIGHLY, because I haven't been
SO SATISFIED {hence the CAPS} with ANY shop in such a long time, I had to
share my experience.

I will be taking Gene my M-22 to take a look at before I install it behind
my killer 455 for my 1970 C/S.

I will also have Gene do the same (Ring, pinion, & carrier) to my Cutlass.

IF ANYONE NEEDS A REAR OR TRANNY DONE, SEE THESE GUYS!!  I am thrilled at
the quality and professionalism of the job and mechanics/owners.

If anyone wants further details, feel free to drop me a note privately too!

Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:27:41 -0400
From: "M. Gillespie" <mick442@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Need help id parts

> I scored a small parts load. I need help identifying what they came from.
If
> anyone can help I would appreciate it.
> Thanks
> Joe
> http://community.webshots.com/album/159597034QabElU

Valve Covers:1973 Olds V8, (just bought a pair of these for $10 CDN)

Air Cleaner: 1970 442, (but it could apply to other years too).

Gauges: They look like 68 or 69 non Rally Pack

Tissue Dispenser: I know Olds had it as an option but I can't tell you what
this one's from.

Mick Gillespie
1969 442 Conv. (clone)
1980 Toro
http://members.rogers.com/mick442/oldspage.htm

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:29:39 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: dstaxpro@infionline.net
Subject: upcoming H/O meet

Just a quick hit to see who is going to try and make the trip to Indy this coming weekend for the H/O meet, and to see what is going on when on Saturday.  I'm thinking of making a day trek out of Saturday, as it is only a couple hundred miles from my humble abode here in central KY.  As usual, nothing valuable is ready to get on the road yet, so I'll have to drive one of those off brand cars.  If they keep having them every 5 years or so maybe I'll have something to make the run with in another show or two..... but that is another story within itself.  

Anyway, I remember seeing that my bud Chris Smetana (sp?  yes I am getting older and the memory fades) is going to go, but I don't remember any other of the troops that have jumped up and mentioned their road plans.  I suspect Rando the Geisel (aka the PA Flash) is still trying to become a member of the retail establishment and is therefore still collecting empty pop bottles from the roadsides of the Keystone state for the deposit money, so I doubt he will make the trek from that metropolis of the east, Honey Brook.  But I was also wondering about Dave Worthington, the guys from the Detroit drag racing  constituency and the other guys who have the misfortune to talk or meet me over the years from this forum.  If anyone would like to do so, it would be kind of neat to meet as many as possible from the list.  Also, if anyone has a list of activities (or a web site to send me to) for the meet, I would appreciate a hit from you.  At the moment I don't know if the spousal unit (as a friend of mine calls her) is coming with me or not, but I suspect I will leave Nicholasville early Saturday and try to get to Indy early so I can cause as much confusion and consternation as possible before rolling back to the Bluegrass state.  As for identification purposes, I'll be the tall, fat guy will glasses and a beard driving the white Benz with gold H/O stripes on it in an attempt to blend in with all of the other white cars of a more distinguished heritage.  Probably be wearing a KY blue t-shirt and a smile and drooling over the first 72 H/O I see...  

Look forward to meeting those who make the trek..........

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:35:46 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: Testing sending PLAIN text as usual

All,
	I upgraded my home box this weekend, and restores my M$-Lookout
contact list.  I'm hoping it sends plain text to the Olds list, as it
should.

Anyone who see it's first please shoot me a reply to confirm to this or ,y
previous post on Austin Rear end shops.

Thanx,

Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme 
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com 

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:40:29 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}

All,
	I just had THE BEST EXPERIENCE of my life this past week involving:

C&G Auto & Transmission
1525 Brandi Lane
Round Rock, TX
512-963-0863
512-698-5720

Owners:  Gene Chavez & Jeff Rogers.

I know this is a WORLD WIDE mailing list, but I also know that many people
lurk and gather information, and for that reason I post this email.

1st off to clarify the location, take 79 @ IH-35 (Exit 253?) and go West.
Go across the train tracks, and continue, to where the road starts to turn
to the right.  At that point Brandi Lane is on the left.  The are the 2nd
BLDG on the left.

I had the ring, pinion, axle BRGS & seals, and a posi Eaton carrier
installed in my daily driver; 9C1.  I supplied the parts, and Gene installed
them.

Gene couldn't quite get the rear end ring and pinion wear pattern to be
"perfect" (I'm not familiar at ALL with the description of wear patterns
involved), by .002".

I got Gene into contact with the direct supplier of the ring and pinion and
he spoke with the tech and got the rear end wear pattern to be perfect (no
longer .002" off).

Gene LITERALLY removed and installed and tried, and tried, to get the
correct wear pattern, and ended up removing and installing the setup a DOZEN
times, trying to get the correct pattern.

Gene got everything working perfectly and buttoned up the rear and took the
car for a spin.  He told me he took the car up beyond 100MPH and it was
smooth as silk, with no noise what so ever.

He called me up, and told me the success story, and told me to come down, as
he was pulling the cover, installing the new gasket, and was going to show
me the posi carrier and everything installed.  I had Dad drive me to the
shop, and Gene showed me the internals, and the wear pattern, and buttoned
up the rear with new gasket, posi additive, and Castrol gear oil.

LONG story short.  Gene treated me so professionally and stuck by his word
to get the parts installed.  HE STUCK FIRM TO the $350.00 INSTALL/QUOTE
PRICE, even thought the ring & pinion gave him so much trouble.

We talked a while, and he told me that he has done rears so many times it
was ridiculous, and showed me pictures of his past race cars, and of course
the "When I was younger" stories {No offense meant}.

I just wanted to really recommend the shop so HIGHLY, because I haven't been
SO SATISFIED {hence the CAPS} with ANY shop in such a long time, I had to
share my experience.

I will be taking Gene my M-22 to take a look at before I install it behind
my killer 455 for my 1970 C/S.

I will also have Gene do the same (Ring, pinion, & carrier) to my Cutlass.

IF ANYONE NEEDS A REAR OR TRANNY DONE, SEE THESE GUYS!!  I am thrilled at
the quality and professionalism of the job and mechanics/owners.

If anyone wants further details, feel free to drop me a note privately too!

Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:48:56 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}

All,
	I just had THE BEST EXPERIENCE of my life this past week involving:

C&G Auto & Transmission
1525 Brandi Lane
Round Rock, TX
512-963-0863
512-698-5720

Owners:  Gene Chavez & Jeff Rogers.

I know this is a WORLD WIDE mailing list, but I also know that many people
lurk and gather information, and for that reason I post this email.

1st off to clarify the location, take 79 @ IH-35 (Exit 253?) and go West.
Go across the train tracks, and continue, to where the road starts to turn
to the right.  At that point Brandi Lane is on the left.  The are the 2nd
BLDG on the left.

I had the ring, pinion, axle BRGS & seals, and a posi Eaton carrier
installed in my daily driver; 9C1.  I supplied the parts, and Gene installed
them.

Gene couldn't quite get the rear end ring and pinion wear pattern to be
"perfect" (I'm not familiar at ALL with the description of wear patterns
involved), by .002".

I got Gene into contact with the direct supplier of the ring and pinion and
he spoke with the tech and got the rear end wear pattern to be perfect (no
longer .002" off).

Gene LITERALLY removed and installed and tried, and tried, to get the
correct wear pattern, and ended up removing and installing the setup a DOZEN
times, trying to get the correct pattern.

Gene got everything working perfectly and buttoned up the rear and took the
car for a spin.  He told me he took the car up beyond 100MPH and it was
smooth as silk, with no noise what so ever.

He called me up, and told me the success story, and told me to come down, as
he was pulling the cover, installing the new gasket, and was going to show
me the posi carrier and everything installed.  I had Dad drive me to the
shop, and Gene showed me the internals, and the wear pattern, and buttoned
up the rear with new gasket, posi additive, and Castrol gear oil.

LONG story short.  Gene treated me so professionally and stuck by his word
to get the parts installed.  HE STUCK FIRM TO the $350.00 INSTALL/QUOTE
PRICE, even thought the ring & pinion gave him so much trouble.

We talked a while, and he told me that he has done rears so many times it
was ridiculous, and showed me pictures of his past race cars, and of course
the "When I was younger" stories {No offense meant}.

I just wanted to really recommend the shop so HIGHLY, because I haven't been
SO SATISFIED {hence the CAPS} with ANY shop in such a long time, I had to
share my experience.

I will be taking Gene my M-22 to take a look at before I install it behind
my killer 455 for my 1970 C/S.

I will also have Gene do the same (Ring, pinion, & carrier) to my Cutlass.

IF ANYONE NEEDS A REAR OR TRANNY DONE, SEE THESE GUYS!!  I am thrilled at
the quality and professionalism of the job and mechanics/owners.

If anyone wants further details, feel free to drop me a note privately too!

Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:56:34 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!! {Sorta Long}

All,
	I just had THE BEST EXPERIENCE of my life this past week involving:

C&G Auto & Transmission
1525 Brandi Lane
Round Rock, TX
512-963-0863
512-698-5720

Owners:  Gene Chavez & Jeff Rogers.

I know this is a WORLD WIDE mailing list, but I also know that many people
lurk and gather information, and for that reason I post this email.

1st off to clarify the location, take 79 @ IH-35 (Exit 253?) and go West.
Go across the train tracks, and continue, to where the road starts to turn
to the right.  At that point Brandi Lane is on the left.  The are the 2nd
BLDG on the left.

I had the ring, pinion, axle BRGS & seals, and a posi Eaton carrier
installed in my daily driver; 9C1.  I supplied the parts, and Gene installed
them.

Gene couldn't quite get the rear end ring and pinion wear pattern to be
"perfect" (I'm not familiar at ALL with the description of wear patterns
involved), by .002".

I got Gene into contact with the direct supplier of the ring and pinion and
he spoke with the tech and got the rear end wear pattern to be perfect (no
longer .002" off).

Gene LITERALLY removed and installed and tried, and tried, to get the
correct wear pattern, and ended up removing and installing the setup a DOZEN
times, trying to get the correct pattern.

Gene got everything working perfectly and buttoned up the rear and took the
car for a spin.  He told me he took the car up beyond 100MPH and it was
smooth as silk, with no noise what so ever.

He called me up, and told me the success story, and told me to come down, as
he was pulling the cover, installing the new gasket, and was going to show
me the posi carrier and everything installed.  I had Dad drive me to the
shop, and Gene showed me the internals, and the wear pattern, and buttoned
up the rear with new gasket, posi additive, and Castrol gear oil.

LONG story short.  Gene treated me so professionally and stuck by his word
to get the parts installed.  HE STUCK FIRM TO the $350.00 INSTALL/QUOTE
PRICE, even thought the ring & pinion gave him so much trouble.

We talked a while, and he told me that he has done rears so many times it
was ridiculous, and showed me pictures of his past race cars, and of course
the "When I was younger" stories {No offense meant}.

I just wanted to really recommend the shop so HIGHLY, because I haven't been
SO SATISFIED {hence the CAPS} with ANY shop in such a long time, I had to
share my experience.

I will be taking Gene my M-22 to take a look at before I install it behind
my killer 455 for my 1970 C/S.

I will also have Gene do the same (Ring, pinion, & carrier) to my Cutlass.

IF ANYONE NEEDS A REAR OR TRANNY DONE, SEE THESE GUYS!!  I am thrilled at
the quality and professionalism of the job and mechanics/owners.

If anyone wants further details, feel free to drop me a note privately too!

Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:09:43 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: AUSTIN, TX: OUTSTANDING Rear end & Tranny Shop!!!!

{First off:  I apologize if this is a duplicating post, I'm not seeing it
appear}

All,
	I just had THE BEST EXPERIENCE of my life this past week involving:

C&G Auto & Transmission
1525 Brandi Lane
Round Rock, TX
512-963-0863
512-698-5720

Owners:  Gene Chavez & Jeff Rogers

I realize that this mailing list is not location specific, but I also know
that many people lurk and gather information, and for that reason I post
this email, as there may be local (to me) people lurking and reading....

1st off to clarify the location, take 79 @ IH-35 (Exit 253?) and go West.
Go across the train tracks, and continue, to where the road starts to turn
to the right.  At that point Brandi Lane is on the left.  The are the 2nd
BLDG on the left.

I had the ring, pinion, axle BRGS & seals, and a posi Eaton carrier
installed in my daily driver; 9C1.  I supplied the parts, and Gene installed
them.

Gene couldn't quite get the rear end ring and pinion wear pattern to be
"perfect" (I'm not familiar at ALL with the description of wear patterns
involved), by .002".

I got Gene into contact with the direct supplier of the ring and pinion and
he spoke with the tech and got the rear end wear pattern to be perfect (no
longer .002" off).

Gene LITERALLY removed and installed and tried, and tried, to get the
correct wear pattern, and ended up removing and installing the setup a DOZEN
times, trying to get the correct pattern.

Gene got everything working perfectly and buttoned up the rear and took the
car for a spin.  He told me he took the car up beyond 100MPH and it was
smooth as silk, with no noise what so ever.

He called me up, and told me the success story, and told me to come down, as
he was pulling the cover, installing the new gasket, and was going to show
me the posi carrier and everything installed.  I had Dad drive me to the
shop, and Gene showed me the internals, and the wear pattern, and buttoned
up the rear with new gasket, posi additive, and Castrol gear oil.

LONG story short.  Gene treated me so professionally and stuck by his word
to get the parts installed.  HE STUCK FIRM TO the $350.00 INSTALL/QUOTE
PRICE, even thought the ring & pinion gave him so much trouble.

We talked a while, and he told me that he has done rears so many times it
was ridiculous, and showed me pictures of his past race cars, and of course
the "When I was younger" stories {No offense meant}.

I just wanted to really recommend the shop so HIGHLY, because I haven't been
SO SATISFIED {hence the CAPS} with ANY shop in such a long time, I had to
share my experience.

I will be taking Gene my M-22 to take a look at before I install it behind
my killer 455 for my 1970 C/S.

I will also have Gene do the same (Ring, pinion, & carrier) to my Cutlass.

IF ANYONE NEEDS A REAR OR TRANNY DONE, SEE THESE GUYS!!  I am thrilled at
the quality and professionalism of the job and mechanics/owners.

If anyone wants further details, feel free to drop me a note privately too!


- -Steve Reed

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:51:57 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
Subject: RE: YZ exh vs. Hooker comps

While digging thru lost emails here's my thoughts....

> > For example, I know what
> > Milton will say (improve on the stock version)!
 
 
> Maybe, and maybe not!
 
 
> > 1. use the stockers - avoid all the headaches of headers.
 
 
> If you want your car to be more of a sleeper, then this 
> option could be of interest. Why? There's a company out there 
> who uses a high pressure honing slury to power hone the 
> inside of manifolds and heads to increase volume.

Yes the company is called Extrude Hone.  It's almost like a pressurized
texturized play-doh type of MATL.  It's been a while since I read a magazine
article on them, but here's some info:

http://www.extrudehone.com/oem.html

- -Steve

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:55:53 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: A-body disc brake conversion

He says he is using Porsche Cayenne brembo six piston calipers together with
a Corvette front suspension and Audi RS-4 360x32mm (14 1/4" x 1 1/4")
rotors.

When he says Corvette front suspension, I assume he means at least the
spindles. Maybe spindles A-arms and springs. Not sure. He says he will post
pictures toward the end of this month.

He says he is having a friend at a machine shop fabricate brackets for
attaching the calipers to the spindles, and also that the RS-4 rotors may
not work because they are not deep enough and don't sit flush on the
spindle.

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:05:21 -0500
From: "Ian Dixon" <IDixon@sbrc.ca>
Subject: 1970 service manual needed

All,

I recently began work on my 1970 442, and would like to find a service
manual for this year.  I'll start petitioning this list and work from
there - has anyone got one that they wish to part with?

Thanks,
Ian Dixon

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:44:22 -0400
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: 330 steel crank?

  I was just looking at 442.com parts for sale....  
1) 330 steel crank, needs to be polished, and reworked...   400.00
  is it me, or does that seem a bit high????
john
67 cutlass supreme

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:52:56 -0400
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 330 steel crank?

> 1) 330 steel crank, needs to be polished, and reworked...   400.00
>   is it me, or does that seem a bit high????

Welcome to the world of Oldsmobile.

Chris

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:06:00 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: NADA classic car online value guide - was "Now THAT's close to home!"

> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:53:56 -0400
> From: Michael Ecker <ecker567@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Now THAT's close to home!
>
> Pat, try this link:
>
> http://www2.nadaguides.com/Values/ValueTrim.asp?UserID=52082BF360676&DID=38171&wSec=2&wPg=1205&CategoryId=11&MakeId=1134&Year=1978&ColorId=
>
> In really good condition, these cars still command a premium - well worth the small cost of insurance.
> 
> - -- 
> Michael Ecker
> Lehigh Acres, Florida
> ecker567@comcast.net

There's something hokey with that pricing guide. It shows that a '71 Supreme convertible with a 455 is worth MORE than a '71 Supreme convertible with the SX package, which IS a 455. So, both cars with a 455 and the plain jane one is worth more than the special ordered SX. Yeah, right.

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:15:19 -0400
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: 330 steel crank?

chris,
   don't you sell those, and how much do you get for yours? Not looking just
wondering
john

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:23:23 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: New car idiots  was: Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser

> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:18:56 +0000
> From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
> Subject: Re: WTB: Taillight Housings, Emblems from Custom Cruiser
> 
> 
> I took the wife to WallyWorld and waited for her in the car 
> in the parking lot. While sitting there reading a novel, some guy and his 
> wife walked past on the way to their own gigantic SUV (afterward, I turned 
> around to see what THEY had; not that I really gave the least bit of 
> shooey). It took me a few seconds to realize what the guy said as he passed me; 
> but it was "Get a new car, idiot,".
> 
> I'm fast approaching my limit of tolerance for the attitudes of people
> around here.
> 
> I was sitting in my 1988 BBA; that's new enough for me. If 
> I'd heard him the first time, I would have responded something like:
> 
> "No monthly payments;
> low insurance payments;
> anything that hits me will get totaled while I'll drive away;
> 20 mile per gallon gas mileage;
> 250,000 mile reliability; and 
> I can fix it myself IF it does break!"
> ;o\  ;o\  ;o\
> 
> 
> SteveH

I used to hear that all the time back when my car was 15 years old or so. Folks always thought of my Cutlass as an old junky car and suggested that I get a new one. One co-worker thought I was spending a fortune on gas to drive 120 miles a day round trip to work in a car that got 12 mpg. I informed him that it was paid for, my monthly gas cost $150, and monthly insurance was $20 - and HE drove a car that had a $340 monthly note + new car insurance rates + gas. He saw my point after that. Now that my car is 33 years old I guess it has crossed over some magical line into the "desirable" range as I now get a lot of folks saying what a nice car it is. Hrumph. Same car, many, many years later, and NOW people like it. Shows what the typical person out there knows about real cars.

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:59:05 -0500
From: SKammerer@alberto.com
Subject: Re: I need an engine for my 1970 Olds 98

Paul,

Does it have to be a '70 engine? Are you loking for a long or a short block?
Where are you located?

I have a '72 in Chicago area.

Steve K.



455

rocket455@worldnet.att.net wrote:

>What size engine are you looking for?
>
>Randy
>
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:29:27 -0400 
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
Subject: short & long tranny tailshafts

All,

Happy Belated Independence Day to one and all!

I have been entertaining some tranny questions recently and found another
hole in my Oldsmobile Data Center (TM) specifically with the difference in
tranny dimensions due to short and long tail shafts.  What's the difference
in length between TH350 and 400 short/long units?  If one has a long tail
shaft tranny from a B Body car destined for an A Body, can the tail shaft be
swapped out for it's shorter brethren w/o much difficulty or is the only
option in using that tranny to cut the driveshaft?  And if swapping is not
an option, does the crossmember need to be relocated?  Lastly, did any A
Bodies come with long tail shaft units?  See, I'm confuzzled!

TIA,

 ~ Dan

- -------------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
'70 W-31 4spd post
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.oldsrocket.com
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:03:56 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 330 steel crank?

Unless 330s in salvage yards are becoming extinct, it's high, IMHO.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: 330 steel crank?


>   I was just looking at 442.com parts for sale....
> 1) 330 steel crank, needs to be polished, and reworked...   400.00
>   is it me, or does that seem a bit high????
> john
> 67 cutlass supreme

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:12:15 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: short & long tranny tailshafts

Dan,

Go to http://www.tciauto.com/tech_info/trans_dims.htm .


> I have been entertaining some tranny questions recently and found another
> hole in my Oldsmobile Data Center (TM) specifically with the difference in
> tranny dimensions due to short and long tail shafts.  What's the
difference
> in length between TH350 and 400 short/long units?  If one has a long tail
> shaft tranny from a B Body car destined for an A Body, can the tail shaft
be
> swapped out for it's shorter brethren w/o much difficulty or is the only
> option in using that tranny to cut the driveshaft?  And if swapping is not
> an option, does the crossmember need to be relocated?


Most of your questions will be answered there. Be careful so as to not
confuse the "B" and "C" dimensions. TH350s actually have 6", 9", and 12"
tailhousings, and TH400s have "C", "D", and 13" tailhousings. However, the
13" tailhousing uses a different transmission mount, so stay away from that
one. The TH400 case is 3" longer than a TH350 case, so that tells you right
there the crossmember is going back. Actually, depending on the tailhousing,
the crossmember will go back 6 9/16" or 7 9/16", as per the chart. There is
one swap situation where the driveshaft will be the same length and another
where it will be almost the same length and may work without modification.
Otherwise, the driveshaft will be rebuilt. Yes, the tailhousings and output
shafts can be swapped around on TH400s.

Thunder Lizard uses a 9 1/2" long tailhousing on her TH400, which I'm going
to assume is the "D" tailhousing. Her crossmember was moved back 7 1/4" from
the mounting holes for the 4-speed, which is a little shorter than what's
indicated on the chart above, but it may have something to do with the way I
determined the correct position for her. I simply put the crossmember
outside the framerails, bolted it up to the tailhousing, and then marked the
location for the new holes on the bottom of the frame, equidistant from the
original holes (of which there were 4 on each side, presumably for different
engine/transmission combinations).

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:03:47 -0500
From: SKammerer@alberto.com
Subject: Re: Hazard lights

Jeff,

If you are looking for  "flashers", they were an option in 1965 called
Flare-Stat.  Try contacting  Gene Gatti, email address:  64f-85@comcast.net,  he
had a beleive a NOS set for a '64 which should be a match your '65.  Also, it
should be a plug in addition, no rewiring involved.

Hope this helps,

Steve K.



Hi all.  I have an odd question.  I am living in Japan with my '65 Cutlass and
in order to get my car registered it needs hazard lights!  So before I rip into
my wiring I figured I would see if someone had an easy solution on how to do
this.  Any help?  Jeff

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:32:31 -0500 
From: "Clark, Pat" <PClark@Ignition.com>
Subject: Aurora opinions?

Guys,

Lady up at my work has a 1995 Aurora for sale. Dark green, some scratches
and marks, 60K miles. Traction control. Interior looks nice with leather.
Window seals look kinda worn. Needs two tires. Haven't driven it yet but I
did start it up. Idle won't stay level. Revs up continuously from 600 to
1000 as it sits. She is asking 4K for it, might take $3800 if I am lucky.
Any comments on the idle or the price?

Thanks,

Pat Clark
IGNITION INC.
P 972-516-8700
F 972-516-8690

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:30:53 -0500
From: SKammerer@alberto.com
Subject: Re: Aurora opinions?

Pat ,

Try this link for the idle question.  the question may have already been asked.

Steve K.



Guys,

Lady up at my work has a 1995 Aurora for sale...
Any comments on the idle or the price?

Thanks,

Pat Clark
IGNITION INC.
P 972-516-8700
F 972-516-8690

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:04:45 -0500 
From: "Clark, Pat" <PClark@Ignition.com>
Subject: RE: Aurora opinions?

Steve, I didn't see the link you referenced.

Pat Clark
IGNITION INC.
P 972-516-8700
F 972-516-8690


- -----Original Message-----
From: SKammerer@alberto.com [mailto:SKammerer@alberto.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:31 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Aurora opinions?







Pat ,

Try this link for the idle question.  the question may have already been
asked.

Steve K.



Guys,

Lady up at my work has a 1995 Aurora for sale...
Any comments on the idle or the price?

Thanks,

Pat Clark
IGNITION INC.
P 972-516-8700
F 972-516-8690

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:59:34 -0500
From: SKammerer@alberto.com
Subject: RE: Aurora opinions?

Oops,.. try these:

http://www.oldsmobileforums.com/forums/index.php?showforum=2,
or:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=364,
or:
                                                                                 
                                                                                 
                                                                                 
                    http://geocities.com/aurorapride/ACNA.html                   
                                                                                 
                                                                                 





Steve, I didn't see the link you referenced.

Pat Clark
IGNITION INC.
P 972-516-8700
F 972-516-8690


- -----Original Message-----
From: SKammerer@alberto.com [mailto:SKammerer@alberto.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:31 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Aurora opinions?







Pat ,

Try this link for the idle question.  the question may have already been
asked.

Steve K.



Guys,

Lady up at my work has a 1995 Aurora for sale...
Any comments on the idle or the price?

Thanks,

Pat Clark
IGNITION INC.
P 972-516-8700
F 972-516-8690

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:57:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Rain Tires (fwd)

Steve sent this to me, not the list... forwarding.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:50:52 -0500
From: Steve Reed <ssreed@direcway.com>
To: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Rain Tires

All,
	I was wondering if anyone has had any personal experiences (Good &
Bad, of course) with any particular 'rain' tire recently.
	I used to have (and still do actually, I just don't own her)
Goodyear Eagle Aquatred's on my daily driver Honda.

I'm curious if anyone has found a better 'summer' tire if you will, that
still performs real well.


Steve Reed
'96 9C1 Chevy Caprice
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
'68 Cutlass Supreme 
Austin, TX
http://www.sreed.0catch.com 

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:41:42 -0500
From: "Jeff Carter" <blue442@odsy.net>
Subject: Re: 330 steel crank?

I picked one up from Chris Witt for fifty bucks + shipping if memory serves.

Nya nya nya nya na na!

Jeff  :-)

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:57:53 +0000
From: roc88ket@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Aurora opinions?

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Pat,
Two causes of the idle issue.
1- Bad fuel pressure regulator, cheap fix, very common
2- More prevelant on the newer Auroras is the crank sensor needs to be reprogrammed.

John Sanders

'53 88
"01 Aurora 4.0
Looking for '03 Aurora

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> Guys, 
> 
> Lady up at my work has a 1995 Aurora for sale. Dark green, some scratches 
> and marks, 60K miles. Traction control. Interior looks nice with leather. 
> Window seals look kinda worn. Needs two tires. Haven't driven it yet but I 
> did start it up. Idle won't stay level. Revs up continuously from 600 to 
> 1000 as it sits. She is asking 4K for it, might take $3800 if I am lucky. 
> Any comments on the idle or the price? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Pat Clark 
> IGNITION INC. 
> P 972-516-8700 
> F 972-516-8690 
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<P>Pat,</P>
<P>Two causes of the idle issue.</P>
<P>1- Bad fuel pressure regulator, cheap fix, very common</P>
<P>2- More prevelant on the newer Auroras is the crank sensor needs to be reprogrammed.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>John Sanders</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>'53 88</P>
<P>"01 Aurora 4.0</P>
<P>Looking for '03 Aurora</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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