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oldsmobile-digest         Monday, 17 February 1997      Volume 01 : Number 520

Re: Build Sheet - Found!
Re: Forwarding Question: Need 425 & 455 info
'88 rear ends
Re: Rating Systems
Must be a Ch*vyite
66 W30
Re: 66 W30
Re: 66 W30
Re: The Meaning of 442
69 442 - For Sale
Re: The Meaning of 442
1970 W-30 Authentication
Re: '88 rear ends
Re: Build Sheet - Found!
Re: Forwarding Question: Need 425 & 455 info
Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet
Re: 1970 W-30 Authentication
Re: 1970 W-30 Authentication
Re: 66 W30
Re: 1970 W-30 Authentication
Re: '88 rear ends
455 in 85 Cutlass front springs
remove request
Re 56 olds Air Cond
Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet
Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet
Re: 66 W30

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From: Dave Paulison <dpauliso@gate.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:10:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Build Sheet - Found!

>However, there is less clean up to the shop floor each
>day if they find some place to 'hide' it in the car as it passes their
>department.

I think sometimes more than one person would hide their copy of it.  I found
two build sheets in my Olds; one under the front seat and one under the back
seat.  They're both the same.

- --
Dave Paulison                  1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
Melbourne, Florida             1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
dpauliso@gate.net

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From: olivier thibault <olivier@9bit.qc.ca>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 04:05:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Forwarding Question: Need 425 & 455 info

Brad Nicholson wrote:
>
> All,
> I got this from my reference on Bryceman's 442.com OCA Chapter page.  I AM
> DEFINITELY "NOT" THE EXPERT ON THESE QUESTIONS!  (Sometimes the best answer
is > to give the question to someone else who knows) Help them convert from >
Chevy-itis. >  ---   Brad Nicholson   OCA#18984 > | | |  1987 442 W-42 > | | |
1994 Eighty Eight LSS > |/|\|  (H) 76062.3042@compuserve.com > | | |  (W)
brad.nicholson@ssa.gov >  ---   Oldsmobile Centennial Club - MD >
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--- > --------- > From: David and Jean Nelson <nelson@olg.com> > To:
76062.3042@compuserve.com > Subject: olds ques > X-URL:
http://www.442.com/ocachapters.html > Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > My brother is showing
the Internet for the first time.  I have an > interest in working on an
Oldsmobile.  All of my previous experience is > with Chevrolets.  So, we
pulled up Oldsmobile Engine and found your > entry.  I was wondering if you
could answer some questions that I have? > > A. I have a '65 or '66 425 cu.
in. short block.  Will a '86 307 roller > cam from 442 (currently in my
possession) work/fit? > > B. Are small block (307, 330, 350, 403) heads
interchangable with the > larger block (400, 425, 455)? > > C. What are the
connecting rod lengths on 425 and 455? > > D. Are 425 and 455 pistons
interchangable? > > E. What is the deck height on the tall deck Olds? > > F.
What is the push rod length on a small and big block Olds? > > I would be
very greatful for any assistance in locating this > information.  Thanks for
your time.


Ill think i can respond to the "B" and "D" Question!

B: The difference between a small and a big block is just a few inches
more
(i think 1 or 2) for the block itself so the head will probably fit!

D: The difference between 425 and a 455 is the pi/cu!
A 455 will have more larger chamber than a 425 so the piston will be a
little larger in a 425!

Olivier
Delta 88 Royale 1976

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From: John and Elizabeth Gene <gene@cybernex.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 09:07:39 -0400
Subject: '88 rear ends

I have a '88 Custom Cruiser (full size) wagon. I have changed the engine to
a '70 350 with a lot more HP and torque. The problem is that the axle ratio
is too high (2.93) and the engine is turning about 1300 rpm at 60mph. The
are no jack rabbit launches off the line with this 4000 lbs slug car. I am
planning to install a lower ratio (3.73) ring and pinion (8.5").

Given the first gear ratio of the TH200-4R and the 3.73 axle ratio, will I
have a traction problem with an open rear?

In 1988, were all full size GM cars using the same rear end? If so, were
there other years that would fit this car?

I presume a limited slip rear would be more effective in handling the
torque of the new engine. Is it possible to find any limited slip rear unit
within these parameters and install it in my Olds rear end?

How does one tell the difference between a good used limited slip unit and
a worn out piece of garbage? Does it pay to buy new?

Thanks,

John
+================================+
| John and Elizabeth Gene        |
| mailto:gene@cybernex.net       |
| http://www2.cybernex.net/~gene |
+================================+

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From: Lloyd Culp <bculp@hiwaay.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:32:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Rating Systems

C.R.F. wrote:
> >Ray,
> >
> >Hershey is sponsored by the AACA.  Only 25 year-old stuff is allowed
> >there.  Carlisle was set up for the ones who had newer items for sale.
> >I have never been to either one although Hershey is much the larger.
> >Carlisle is plenty large.  They both  sound nice.
> >
> >Bill Culp
> >Decatur, Alabama
> >
> >
> No, Bill
>
> That isn't the rule.  Anything and everything is allowed at Hershey, even
> though it is an AACA sponsored meet, actually it is the local chapter's
> meet, even though it's one AACA home town territory.
>
> The Wiz

Wiz,

I realise that it is not possible to police such a massive meet very
well, but antiques are the rule.  This is also the site of the AACA
Eastern Nationals & AACA National rules apply.  The reason for Carlisle
is the restrictions at Hershey.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

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From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:06:23 -0400
Subject: Must be a Ch*vyite

Found this in the classifieds on Brycemans page.  Should we clue him in?

Date Posted 2/7/1997 - I am looking for a 1968-1972 olds 442 with a 396
or above. No
convertibles please. It doesnt need to be very restored, but it does
have to be driveable.
PGambrell@aol.com Birmingham, Alabama

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From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:08:40 -0400
Subject: 66 W30

I was thumbing through Hemmings and saw two ads for '66 442 W30s.  Don't
recall the exact prices but one was around $25K and the other was around
$42K.  They were owned by the same person.  Question is, if someone
owned _2_ of these, why would they Sell them???

Kurt
71 442

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From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:40:44 -0400
Subject: Re: 66 W30

At 10:08 AM 2/16/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I was thumbing through Hemmings and saw two ads for '66 442 W30s.  Don't
>recall the exact prices but one was around $25K and the other was around
>$42K.  They were owned by the same person.  Question is, if someone
>owned _2_ of these, why would they Sell them???
>
>Kurt
>71 442

Kurt

        The man who owns these cars is Jim Stoleman. He owns Stoleman
Oldsmobile in Alexandria Virginia. Great guy. I don't know why he would want
to sell them, but hes got a 70 W-30 4spd conv. and two or three more W-30's
not including hid small 66-67 collection. These cars are gorgeous.

Jim Chermack
70 Cutlass SX W-32
72 442 >

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From: Escape442@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:23:10 -0400
Subject: Re: 66 W30

In a message dated 97-02-16 09:17:10 EST, you write:

>I was thumbing through Hemmings and saw two ads for '66 442 W30s.  Don't
>recall the exact prices but one was around $25K and the other was around
>$42K.  They were owned by the same person.  Question is, if someone
>owned _2_ of these, why would they Sell them???
>
>Kurt
>71 442

  For  $ 67,000, If you can get it, why not? they are just cars. There is an
awfull lot you could do with that money. Like double it! in a sound
investment. Then when you have a nestegg, you can go back and buy another one
for $20,000.  I always cringe when I see an ad for a car: $30,000 INVESTED,
sell for $10,000. EXCUSE ME, you did NOT invest it, you spent it!  Ed
  Escape442@aol.com

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From: Escape442@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:34:24 -0400
Subject: Re: The Meaning of 442

I know that most of you who read this list know this, however, I still come
across someone who says: Four Fourty Two!  There is no better way to display
your ignorance!  If your not sure, ask, but for God's sake get with the
program! FOUR-FOUR-TWO!
Ed   Escape442@aol.com

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From: "Craig J. Smith" <craigs@dancris.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:36:11 -0400
Subject: 69 442 - For Sale

In case anyones interested,

There is a 69 442 convertible for sale at Desert Valley Auto Parts in
Phoenix, AZ.  The car is white w/ a white top and blue interior.  It
appears to be in good condition but I didn't check it out.  I believe
the asking price is $9,800.  Their phone number 602-780-8024.

Craig Smith

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From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:52:34 -0400
Subject: Re: The Meaning of 442

>I know that most of you who read this list know this, however, I still come
>across someone who says: Four Fourty Two!  There is no better way to display
>your ignorance!  If your not sure, ask, but for God's sake get with the
>program! FOUR-FOUR-TWO!

I allways tell people who mess up the 442 name that it sounds just as stupid
as calling a porche 911 a nine-one-one.


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From: John and Robin Whitcore <retrotek@phoenixat.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 08:22:33 -0400
Subject: 1970 W-30 Authentication

Does anyone know of a way to positivley ID a genuine 1970 W-30 car? I
know in '71 you would find an "x" in the VIN. Are there any tell tale
ways like this for a 1970 model?
.......j

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From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 04:54:52 -0400
Subject: Re: '88 rear ends

>Given the first gear ratio of the TH200-4R and the 3.73 axle ratio, will I
>have a traction problem with an open rear?
You'll have some traction problems.  My 3.08 open diff with a 400 trans and
3000 stall converter would burn rubber about 5 feet beforer it'd hook up(72
350 engine).  I was running 225-70R14 tires at the time and the
Vista-Cruiser weighs maybe 4600 lb with me and gas in it.  The 200-4R I'm
running now only has the 1500 stall converter so the car won't chirp the
tires anymore. Especially after changing to 235-70 R15 tires.  Considering
your car is lighter, and has a more powerful engine,  with 3.73s there's
gonna be some spin.
>
>In 1988, were all full size GM cars using the same rear end? If so, were
>there other years that would fit this car?

I couldn't tell you.
.
>I presume a limited slip rear would be more effective in handling the
>torque of the new engine. Is it possible to find any limited slip rear unit
>within these parameters and install it in my Olds rear end?

Consider a $59 set of airbags if you really want traction but can't find a
limited slip rearend.  I've never used them but other people who have say
they're the next best thing.  You can use them to load one side of the axle
on takeoff and it's supposed to really make a difference.  They can also be
used to level the rear suspension for towing or stiffen the suspension up to
improve handleing.

Also if you have about $300 to burn you can really improve takeoff with a
high-stall converter in conjunction with the 3.73 gears.  My TH-400 had a
higher first gear than the 200-4R but it would take off much faster than the
200-4R.  The difference was in the converters, the 400 had a 3000 stall
converter while the 200-4R has a 1500 stall.   There are high-stall 200-4R
converters availible with the lockup feature so that you can get decent
economy with them too.  If you use a high-stall converter you will need a
transmisson cooler.  A trans cooler would be a good idea even if you don't
get the high stall converter.

Greg Pruett
`72 Vista-Cruiser

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From: "JOSEPH_W. BARKER" <BARKERJO@mailserv1.ferris.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:05:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Build Sheet - Found!

Is the number 370791 the same as the six digit number on the motor
block?  I've seen some olds V-8s with approx. the same number.

Joe Barker
84 Cutlass Calais RWD

> > >>The body number on my trim tag (on the cowl) is 370791 and the
> > >>sticker on the door jam says the car was built 02-70 so, assuming these
> > >>two body numbers should match, it would appear that I have the build
> > >>sheet for a car that was built a couple thousand units _later_ !
> > >>
> > >>I also found some pieces of broken safety glass under the seat on
> > >>the passengers side.  Looks like the passenger window was broken
> > >>out sometime in the past.  Hmmm.
> > >
> > >Ah, well, perhaps your car was broadsided in the past, and they
> > >welded in a portion of floor from a donor car built after yours,
> > >and its build sheet came along for the ride. Encouraging thought,
> > >no doubt... :-)
> >
> > Or maybe nobody looks at those sheets. They could have been randomly
generated.. > > > > "Hey Joe! This car doesn't have a build sheet! Gotta
extra one!?" > > > > > >
************************************************************************* > >
* THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY  *       Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )        * > >
*                           *       Dainippon Screen Eng. of America    * > >
* LEFT BLANK                *       3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.             * > >
*                           *       Santa Ana, CA. 92704                * > >
************************************************************************* > > >
> > > > > > > >

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From: "C.R.F." <wizkid@inlink.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:59:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Forwarding Question: Need 425 & 455 info

>>
>> D. Are 425 and 455 pistons interchangable
>>

>
>Ill think i can respond to the "B" and "D" Question!
>
>B: The difference between a small and a big block is just a few inches
>more
>(i think 1 or 2) for the block itself so the head will probably fit!
>
>D: The difference between 425 and a 455 is the pi/cu!
>A 455 will have more larger chamber than a 425 so the piston will be a
>little larger in a 425!
>
>Olivier
>Delta 88 Royale 1976

Both the 425 and the 455 have the same bore (4.125") so the principal
difference is in the stroke, 3.98" vs 4.25" pi/ci not withstanding.

The cylinder head bolt pattern is the same on all, however there are two
different bolts ie, 7/16" and 1/2" so it might be difficult to bolt a head
with a 7/16" bolt hole to a block with a 1/2" hole to receive the bolt.
Also combustions chambers would not necessarialy be very compatiable.

The Wiz

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From: Dan Williams <dr_olds@pitnet.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:29:45 -0400
Subject: Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet

That works great for me.  Now anyone want to pick a regular time/day to
meet there?


>
> I registered a channel called #Oldsmobile on DALnet mIRC so if anyone comes
> to DAL make sure you drive by and say hello.  If you have any suggestions
> on what I should do with the # e-mail me or find me on the channel, I am
> Saltuc (Cutlass spelled backwards, cool huh).  Hope to see you all there.
>
> Tracy McKee
> 75 Cutlass Supreme
> mckeet@discover-net.net

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From: SRB442@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:26:08 -0400
Subject: Re: 1970 W-30 Authentication

In a message dated 97-02-16 12:26:53 EST, you write:

<< Subj:	1970 W-30 Authentication
 Date:	97-02-16 12:26:53 EST
 From:	retrotek@phoenixat.com (John and Robin Whitcore)
 Sender:	oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
 Reply-to:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
 To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

 Does anyone know of a way to positivley ID a genuine 1970 W-30 car? I
 know in '71 you would find an "x" in the VIN. Are there any tell tale
 ways like this for a 1970 model?
 .......j

 Hi,
      I am not an expert on 1970 442's but am restoring one now. I believe
all the W-30 cars had disc brakes, F-heads,red inner fender wells,alluminum
intake,OW trans,the carbs were different number 7040258 I think. they would
either have 3.42 or 3.91 twelve bolt axle depending if it had A/C or not and
I think it would have to be built in Lansing. The 72 W-30's were the ones
with X in the Vin. I believe this is accurate but may be off a little. If I
were buying a W-30 I would want some original paper work
 If I were spending a lot of money.       Steve






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From: Frank Gonzalez <PLPAUDIO@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:20:02 -0400
Subject: Re: 1970 W-30 Authentication

SRB442@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-02-16 12:26:53 EST, you write:
>
> << Subj:        1970 W-30 Authentication
>  Date:  97-02-16 12:26:53 EST
>  From:  retrotek@phoenixat.com (John and Robin Whitcore)
>  Sender:        oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
>  Reply-to:      oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>  To:    oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>
>  Does anyone know of a way to positivley ID a genuine 1970 W-30 car? I
>  know in '71 you would find an "x" in the VIN. Are there any tell tale
>  ways like this for a 1970 model?
>  .......j
>
>  Hi,
>       I am not an expert on 1970 442's but am restoring one now. I believe
> all the W-30 cars had disc brakes, F-heads,red inner fender wells,alluminum
> intake,OW trans,the carbs were different number 7040258 I think. they would
> either have 3.42 or 3.91 twelve bolt axle depending if it had A/C or not and
> I think it would have to be built in Lansing. The 72 W-30's were the ones
> with X in the Vin. I believe this is accurate but may be off a little. If I
> were buying a W-30 I would want some original paper work
>  If I were spending a lot of money.       Steve
>
>
>
>
>
70 would have the numbers 44 in vin for 442 and to be a W car, it would
have have to
be built in Lansing plus the options that Steve wrote down.
Frank
70 442
71 442 W30 convt
72 Cutlass S

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From: HUEY442@aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:24:33 -0400
Subject: Re: 66 W30

There seemed to be a lot of confusion a few years back about the existence of
1966
W30s. They did exist and 54 units were produced at the factory. There were a
small
number of dealer installed kits. The air pleniums are probably the rarest
item in the
Olds parts bin. The original factory units had a # stamped on the left air
inlet on the
plenium (ie #1 through #54) the inlet on the dealer installed kit did not
have this
stamping. I was fortunate to have owned one of the orignal cars back in 1966
and
raced it in southwestern Ohio.
As to why the guy would want to sell them?.  Maybe because they cost about
$3500.00 new.


   Thanks
   "HUEY"


   "HUEY"


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From: mefco@sprynet.com
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:49:23 -0400
Subject: Re: 1970 W-30 Authentication

Look for the OW transmission with the cars VIN # on it.

Art Fuller

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From: Kevin Wong <yu135008@yorku.ca>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:55:12 -0400
Subject: Re: '88 rear ends

> I have a '88 Custom Cruiser (full size) wagon. I have changed the engine to
> a '70 350 with a lot more HP and torque. The problem is that the axle ratio
> is too high (2.93) and the engine is turning about 1300 rpm at 60mph. The

With the converter locked up, you should theoretically be at 1400rpm @
60mph.  BTW, did you retain the stock 307 carburetor and distributor?

> In 1988, were all full size GM cars using the same rear end? If so, were
> there other years that would fit this car?

As far as I know, full-size GM cars of this era came with 7.5" and 8.5"
rear ends.  Cars without heavy-duty options usually came with the
smaller ring gear.  The only full-size car I know of that came from the
factory with 3.73 gears is an early '90s Cadillac Brougham with the 7000lb
towing package.

I agree with Greg's suggestion of using a torque converter with a higher
stall speed, as the stock 1500rpm stall is rather low.  Maybe a rear gear
change won't be necessary after this modification.

Kevin Wong

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From: Howdy <y5x5a5jv@coastalnet.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:04:56 -0400
Subject: 455 in 85 Cutlass front springs

A couple of months ago, I put 307 springs in the front of my 85 Cutlass
(original motor: 231 V-6) on the advice I got on this service.  The
original problem I had was the front end was way too low...(The airdam
was almost hitting the ground and it was difficult to get a floorjack
past the airdam to jack up the front end)  Since I put the 307 springs
in, the front end sits way too high for my liking and I have lost that
jaunty "cool" stance that was stock for the mid 80s Cutlass.  Before I
go too far, I did hose this whole swap up by never lowering the rear-end
to stock ride height during the whole process of selecting
springs...therefore my judgement of too low was based on a car who's
rear end was a good 14" or so higher than where it belongs.  Oops!  The
big question, is anyone out there running a 455 in a mid 80s Cutlass
with 231/3.8 springs (26" tires in the rear) with no problem and a
foreward rake?  Or, can anyone suggest a spring for the front end that
gives me stock appearance and decent clearance?
Thanks!
Brian Kennedy
85 Cutlass/455
"Old Blue"

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From: Larry Glover <"glo-mar@nanaimo.ark.com"@nanaimo.ark.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:21:53 -0400
Subject: remove request

please take my name and email address off your list
thankyou

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From: Gail Adams <gadams@remc7.k12.mi.us>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:12:07 -0400
Subject: Re 56 olds Air Cond

I was reading messages earlier from someone who was wondering @ the A/C
manifold on the 56 Olds.  I deleted the original message accidentally so
I don't know where to respond.  I have had some success fabricating a
working replacement from defroster nozzles from a mid 80's GM car.  I
remember that I used 2 of them, duct tape, and a table saw.  I tried for
a long time to find a NOS but couldn't.  I did see one at the Olds
Homecoming in Lansing a couple years ago.  I don't remember much, but I
do recall understanding why they didn't last very long-very fragile.  If
you need more info my e-maili is gadams@remc7.k12.mi.us.  Phone is
616-846-4694 (mich)
Tom Adams

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From: "Tracy McKee" <mckeet@discover-net.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:46:20 -0400
Subject: Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet

- ----------
> From: Dan Williams <dr_olds@pitnet.net>
> Subject: Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet
 > That works great for me.  Now anyone want to pick a regular time/day to
> meet there?

Tuesday nights after 7:00 work great for me. There are other times that I'm
on but that works best for me. How does that work for everyone else???
Tracy McKee
75 Cutlass Supreme
mckeet@discover-net.net

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From: "jones" <jones@morgan.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:02:05 -0400
Subject: Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet

- ----------
> From: Tracy McKee <mckeet@discover-net.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet
> Date: Sunday, February 16, 1997 8:46 PM
>
>
>
> ----------
> > From: Dan Williams <dr_olds@pitnet.net>
> > Subject: Re: #Oldsmobile on DALnet
>  > That works great for me.  Now anyone want to pick a regular time/day
to
> > meet there?
>
> Tuesday nights after 7:00 work great for me. There are other times that
I'm
> on but that works best for me. How does that work for everyone else???
> Tracy McKee
> 75 Cutlass Supreme
> mckeet@discover-net.net
> What time zone?

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From: Lance Mackey <lamackey@sns-access.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:00:09 -0400
Subject: Re: 66 W30

At 08:24 PM 2/16/97 -0400, you wrote:
>There seemed to be a lot of confusion a few years back about the existence of
>1966
>W30s. They did exist and 54 units were produced at the factory. There were a
>small
>number of dealer installed kits. The air pleniums are probably the rarest
>item in the
>Olds parts bin. The original factory units had a # stamped on the left air
>inlet on the
>plenium (ie #1 through #54) the inlet on the dealer installed kit did not
>have this
>stamping. I was fortunate to have owned one of the orignal cars back in 1966
>and
>raced it in southwestern Ohio.
>As to why the guy would want to sell them?.  Maybe because they cost about
>$3500.00 new.
>
>
>   Thanks
>   "HUEY"
>
>
>   "HUEY"

Just to throw a little ethyl on the fire, a friend of mine is the original
owner of a '66 W-30 which was built in L.A., not Lansing. His car is the
original L.A. Autoshow car, and was thrown together at the L.A. plant just
for the show. He has all of the original paperwork, and during the '60s
raced the car in the SoCal area. It was featured in Hot Rod magazine during
that time frame. I've been trying to get him to write down his
recollections, but he doesn't seem too interested.  Just shows that the
factory did just about anything you can imagine, if the whim or need
presented itself.


Happy Cruzin'

Lance Mackey
lamackey@3rdplanet.com
http://www.3rdplanet.com/~lamackey/hurst_hp.html ('68 Hurst/Olds website)

'67 Supreme post UHC 330
'68 Hurst/Olds (original family)
'59 Chevy Viking
'63 Nova 400
'69 Camaro SS396
'70 Camaro 350/300hp
'86 Camaro 502 (original owner)

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