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oldsmobile-digest          Saturday, 8 March 1997       Volume 01 : Number 553

Re: Iola Wisconsin Car Show
BHap-less
RE: BIRTH RECORDS!!!!
RE: Olds Marketing
Re: Well wishes
Racing Champs - Correct WWW
Re: Olds in Miniature - Racing Champions
Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...
Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...
Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...
RE: Olds Marketing
Re: Well wishes
RE: Olds Marketing
Bermuda Triangle/Header pannels...(Kinda N/O) was J.C.
Re: BHap
Re: Bermuda Triangle/Header pannels...(Kinda N/O) was J.C.
Home Page Links
"56 Olds
RE: Olds Marketing
Control Arm Bushings
Olds Centennial Club Meeting - 3/11/97 (Maryland)
Re: "56 Olds
Fuel Pump
Re: Well wishes
Re: Fuel Pump
Still in Stock
Inormation requested
Re: Well wishes
Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...
Re: Inormation requested
Re: Bad News from yesterday
HEI swap
Re: HEI swap
Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...
Re: Iola Wisconsin Car Show
Re: Well wishes
Oldsmobile Parts For Sale (New List)
production figures wanted
Re: seat cover mfrers?
Re: Subject: Re: T-3 Inquiry
Re: Still in Stock
Re: Bad News from yesterday
Re: Fuel Pump
Re: Fuel Pump
Re: seat cover mfrers?
Re: seat cover mfrers?
Dave Paulison
Re: Emergency info needed! Quick reply desired.
Floor pan installer
Re: Floor pan installer
Re: Fuel Pump
Re: TPS
Re: Well wishes and aol
Driveshaft vibrations

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From: DUKEOFBLUZ@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:42:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Iola Wisconsin Car Show

As for wether or not to go to Iola, GO, it is a very big show with so many
cars its hard to see them all, the only downside is that it is hard to find a
hotel room, most people will book thier rooms for next year when they attend
this years show.Luckily I hope to stay with a friend in Abbotsford, about a
hour away.
Hope to see you!!!
Jeffrey T. Fieldsend
Member O.C.A.
              H/OCA
               O.C.C   "Oldsmobile Cutlass Coupes 1973-1977"

75 Hurst/Olds W-25
75 Hurst/Olds W-30

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From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:47:05 -0400
Subject: BHap-less

BHap@aol.com wrote:
>
> welcome to the losers club...

We've already discussed America On Line several weeks ago.

> ...and generally have wasted a good deal of time sorting through the
> glut of junk-e-mail...

I guess the President and the Pentagon must be pretty pissed off about
now with you're being all tied up like that, huh?

> ...that actually say something useful.

Speaking of which, here's something useful for you:
Send "unsubscr*be oldsmobile" to majordomo@chebucto.ns.ca

    66 Toro
The /\   /\ and Mike

- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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From: "R.B. Short" <rbshort@barnessmithlewis.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:49:37 -0400
Subject: RE: BIRTH RECORDS!!!!

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    Sorry to take awhile to answer but :
There is a little book for sale named "How to Find Cars & Owners". It =
has some good info on researching the history of your car. It has =
several pages of general info and ideas and then goes into a =
state-by-state directory of motor vehicle agencies, what they can and =
cannot do, and how to contact them. I followed their suggestions and got =
some interesting info on my '56 Olds.
   The book is $15.00 ppd (US funds,checks, MO & MC/VISA cards accepted) =
and can be ordered from :
      Barbara Spear
      PO Box 7581
      Bloomfield, CT  06002
                                                                R.B. =
Short,  OKC,OK

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From: TELESIS.LEGTEL:JOSE TREJO[SMTP:JOSE.TREJO@pactel.com]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 1997 5:44 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: BIRTH RECORDS!!!!

      Date:  02/28/1997  03:44 pm  (Friday)
      From:  Jose Trejo
        To:  SF-CCMAIL("oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca at Internet")
   Subject:  BIRTH RECORDS!!!!

JUST CURIOUS, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS
LIST HAVE THE "HISTORY" ON THEIR CAR, SOOOOOO,
IF IT'S POSSIBLE, COULD ANYONE HELP ME FIND OUT
AS MUCH AS I CAN ON MY WOMAN????  I GOT THE
VIN ª AND THE INFO. FROM THERE, BUT BESIDES
THAT, WHAT ELSE CAN I FIND AND WHERE????
THANKS!!!!




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From: scr@msu.oscs.montana.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 22:52:31 -0400
Subject: RE: Olds Marketing

As far as being loyal to Olds customers, they tried that and it didn't work.
THe 'loyal' customer is probably in their 60's and 70's, they need to get new,
younger 'soon to be loyal' customers.
Sean Ray '89 Cutlass Supreme International

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From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@aisf.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:57:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Well wishes

Not to belabor the issue any more than it needs to be, I want thank
all of those individuals who have shown compassion and sympathy for
my situation with regards to remarks made by BHap.

I don't think anyone should be called a loser since we all are at
different learning stages in life.  The fact that those in the list
who are knowledgable (sp?) and eagerly/willingly share their
information with the rest of us, goes far and above anything I would
ever expect.  I eagerly await times when I can add some information of
my own.

IMHO, knowledge is power and with it we become winners.  I don't
really believe that people are losers, just uninformed.  In all my
years of work I have never found anyone to be a loser.  Given the
right impetous (sp?) and the right goal, anyone can achieve anything
they seek.  That is just human nature.

I feel that I have been extremely enriched by the knowledge I have
received.  The icing on the cake is that I am finding that there are
also a lot of nice people on the list (Wow what a benefit :=) [Happy
tears]).  I don't feel so stupid when talking to mechanics, who I
find at times quite skillful in misinformation, and am able to get
the work done while being cognizant of the operations involved.  A
good example was when I was leaking gas at the rubber crossover point
into the engine cavity.  The mechanic's first word was my oil pump.
When I pointed to him were the problem was, that was that.  See I was
a winner (not a whiner <pun intended>) since I knew what I was talking
about.

I am looking forward to getting beyond the accident.  I found out today
that I am being considered at fault by the idiot who hit me.  Only in
California!  Well maybe not just in California.  Maybe its time for me
to secure a lawyer.  Why can't all three parties just sit in a room and
hash it out.  Too much BS if you ask me.

Well I better get back to work, I sure went on and on....

Later friends...

Chris Sparks
68 442 (She says hi too)

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From: BRAD.NICHOLSON@ssa.gov
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:05:35 -0400
Subject: Racing Champs - Correct WWW

     All,
     Sorry for the F*rd-up.  Here is the correct WWW address for Racing
     Champions Die Cast Cars

     www.racingchamps.com

     If you think my typing is bad, I'm the editor of 2 Olds newsletters
     also.  Thank God my wife knows how to spell (The unofficial
     editor/spellchecker in the family)

      ---
     | | | Brad Nicholson   OCAª18984
     | | | 1987 442 W-42
     |/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
     | | | 76062.3042@compuserve.com
      ---  Oldmobile Centennial Club - MD

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From: "Thomas Stoner" <tgstoner@mailgw2.pmr.med.umich.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:15:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Olds in Miniature - Racing Champions

Brad Nicholson (BRAD.NICHOLSON@ssa.gov) wrote:

> . . .They have a web page @ www.racingchampions.com

To which Kurt Heinrich (old442@erols.com) replied:

> I tried this URL and it didn't work....

*******
Kurt and Brad,

I had problems finding Racing Champions' WEB page too.  I did find
however that http://www.racingchamps.com worked.  Despite that, I
didn't find any information about a 1969 442 model about to be
introduced there however.  I hope that this helps.

          ===
+======= | | | = Tom Stoner =======================+
|        | | |   OCA ª3943                         |
|        |/|\|   Ann Arbor, MI                     |
|        | | |   1979 Hurst/Olds (It's for sale!)  |
|         ===    tgstoner@umich.edu                |
+==================================================+

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From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:08:36 -0400
Subject: Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...

Certain AOL intelligentsia may want to bail here, since there is
little-to-no Olds content following:

>Anyway, the thing had bad head gaskets (almost finished with that)
>and a smashed header pannel.  Now, J.C. Whitney has them in their catalog
>for something like $135.  Sounds almost too good to be true, when the
>junkyard wants more than that.  I was just wondering if anybody else has
>ever bought one from these guys, and if so how the quality was.  My main
>concern here is that the thing wont fit right, or it will be one of thoes
>"trim to fit" jobs that will never fit right now matter how much you
>"trim".

I would guess it will be a repro part. I'd pass, simply because you can
find genuine ones in the junkyard very easily (given the model year you
are looking for, plus all the other years that used the same part), and
if you get really lucky, you'll even find a replacement that's already
painted the right color. Stranger things have happened...

>That
>was back when I had a '71 Super Beetle, and I ordered a small fortune of
>stuff form Whitney, all of which was late (to the tune of a month or
>more), most was this cheap Brazillion stuff that was just basically junk
>(bumper that rusted in two weeks, seals that split in 3 months, etc).

Well, last I heard they were still building entire new Beetles down
there. You might have even been sold OEM parts, FWIW...

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@dlogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

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From: tchurchill@draper.com (Timothy A. Churchill)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:56:55 -0400
Subject: Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...

> Certain AOL intelligentsia may want to bail here, since there is
> little-to-no Olds content following:

The same AOL uninformedian need not continue reading:

<JCW anecdote and good advise by Andy snipped>

> >That
> >was back when I had a '71 Super Beetle, and I ordered a small fortune of
> >stuff form Whitney, all of which was late (to the tune of a month or
> >more), most was this cheap Brazillion stuff that was just basically junk
> >(bumper that rusted in two weeks, seals that split in 3 months, etc).

An old friend o' mine once had a '67 Beetle, which started out as a nice
cream-colored unrestored car, and ended up as a J.C. Whitney-ized
flared-fendered multi-carbed two-tone (blue-n-white) travesty.  $$$ in
the thousands were spent on Whitney parts, all of which were cheaply made.

For instance, the 'ah-oo-gah' horn, bolted on just in front of the driver's
door - -- which Whitney claimed added 5 - 10 H.P. to the car :) -- had
unsightly rust after 3 mos.

> Well, last I heard they were still building entire new Beetles down
> there. You might have even been sold OEM parts, FWIW...

This is a continuing thread on rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled, the feasability
of bringing Beetles made these days in Mexico into the US (the consenus is
no, BTW -- they don't come close to DOT safety or emissions stds).
Not sure if VW itself is manufacturing them, or if they just sold the dies &
such to some Brazilian/Mexican concerns, sort of like Fiat did with Lada and
Yugo.

Olds Content:  Big Red has a Whitney convt. top installed by the p.o.
Although it has no tears, it looks cheap.  Real cheap.  Methinks it's a bit
too small for the frame, as I have trouble getting a good seal in the front,
even with the brand new seal I put in.  Once I get the top front bow I picked
up last week refinished, I'll bolt it onto Big Red so I can get a *nice* top
installed.




Tim Churchill
- -------------
'67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible, a.k.a. 'Big Red'
'89 Cadillac Fleetwood, a.k.a. 'Der KinderWagen'
'91 Mazda Protege, a.k.a. 'The Next Car to be Replaced'

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From: John Schumacher <jd.schumacher@baylordallas.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:40:53 -0400
Subject: Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...

Scott R Clark wrote:

> P.S.--Has anybody ever ordered a carpet set for their classic Olds
> from them?

I have ordered several carpets from them.  The cheaper is cheaper, but I
recommend the "CUSTOM-MOLDED carpet" $109 or $129.  It comes with
insulation on the bottom side and shaped (molded) for the floorboard of
your car.  The kickpad in sewn in the correct place, and a dimmer
grommet is included too. They are dropped ship them from the factory and
little trimming required to install.  I perfer 1 piece, but 2 piece are
available.
Even ordering by credit card, expect to wait 2 weeks.  It's worth the
wait for me.  I've ordered and installed carpet in my 3 oldsmobiles, a
69 ElCamino SS, 71 Cutlass S, 67 and a 76 Chevy pickup, and a 78 GMC
truck. They all turned out great!

John Schumacher
NTOCª254
OCAª021151
64 D88
69 442
74 Supreme

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From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:54:48 -0400
Subject: RE: Olds Marketing

At 09:52 PM 3/7/97 -0500, you wrote:
>As far as being loyal to Olds customers, they tried that and it didn't work.
>THe 'loyal' customer is probably in their 60's and 70's, they need to get
new, >younger 'soon to be loyal' customers. >Sean Ray '89 Cutlass Supreme
International

Well, I'm 30, and I currently own two Oldsmobiles and my other car is
*powered* by an Oldsmobile, my mother owned an Oldsmobile (that I learned to
drive in), I helped my friend in high-school buy and build a couple of
Oldsmobiles, so I'd have to say that I'd be a candidate for a "loyal
customer". They just don't seem to want to give me a chance.

Maybe if they come out with a decent motor in the Intrigue (and call it the
Cutlass Supreme...), then we can start talking. I won't go with an Olds,
however, that is simply a 160hp V-6 powered 4-door sedan that gets 23mpg
city/30mpg highway; that's not an Oldsmobile, that's an "everycar".

Give me something distinctive, something unique; DAMMIT, OLDS, GIVE ME AT
LEAST *ONE* GOOD REASON TO BUY A CAR FROM YOU!

Sorry to shout...
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:04:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Well wishes

As far as I can recall the pearls of wisdom that spilled from BHap's
keyboard were the first the list was graced with from that particular
(l)user... and also the last, since they unsubbed themselves immediately
thereafter. Ignore such silliness please.

Actually it's almost just as well since it seems a bunch of AOL accounts
have gone south today. Never seen so many bounced messages and I've had
to unsub several members who are/were on AOL.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:21:08 -0400
Subject: RE: Olds Marketing

On Fri, 7 Mar 1997 scr@msu.oscs.montana.edu wrote:
> As far as being loyal to Olds customers, they tried that and it didn't work.
> THe 'loyal' customer is probably in their 60's and 70's, they need to get
new, > younger 'soon to be loyal' customers. > Sean Ray '89 Cutlass Supreme
International

I tend to think otherwise. All you have to do is look around at all the
people here and around your town with the early-80s G-body Cutlasses.
Don't think you'll find to many of them in their 70's.

Customers become loyal when they find a product that gives them some
benefits that are valuable to them. Traditionally in the case of Olds it
was a combination of things, among which were:

- - engine design
- - power
- - reliability
- - value for money, i.e. a nicely trimmed and styled vehicle compared to
the mainstream brands for not much extra cost
- - build quality
- - balanced performance
- - technical innovation
- - a combination of luxury and sportiness
etc. etc.

Olds lost their way in the 80s when GM products became corporatized and a
lowest-common denominator philosophy prevailed. In their new products,
they've tried to resurrect some of the qualities that made them
successful in the past, but to me they lack the distinction to set them
apart from other GM products (except for the Aurora but they're not in my
price range). Plus they are very much clones of the successful Hondas,
Toyotas, etc. but have the same lack of character and fail to tell me
anything that indicates they are an American car.

I really do think there is a market for a American-style car. A little
chrome, a little flash, and a little color isn't a bad thing. I really
don't want to spend $25K to sit in a taupe or gray-colored plastic 4-door
cocoon that looks like everything else on the road. Wouldn't it be a gas
to see a new car in a showroom that had a multi-toned interior in shades
of blue or green or red or parchment, with maybe a little chrome or silver
thrown in for good measure?

It might as well be Olds but somehow I doubt we'll ever see it.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: Scott R Clark <mickeyd@selway.umt.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:31:30 -0400
Subject: Bermuda Triangle/Header pannels...(Kinda N/O) was J.C.

First off, let me say thanks for the responses on this stuff.

> Certain AOL intelligentsia may want to bail here, since there is
> little-to-no Olds content following:

Actually, the Olds content for this is the fact that I'm selling
this Buick to finance further work on my Olds.  I'm hopeing to get at
least $1700 out of it, and all of it is going in my '60.
I hope to get the parts for my front end rebuild, brakes, body and
trim stuff, and hopefully exhaust and maybe even a paint job (hey, I can
be optomistic can't I?  ;)

> >and a smashed header pannel.  Now, J.C. Whitney has them in their catalog
> >for something like $135.  Sounds almost too good to be true, when the
> >junkyard wants more than that.  I was just wondering if anybody else has
>
> I would guess it will be a repro part. I'd pass, simply because you can
> find genuine ones in the junkyard very easily (given the model year you
> are looking for, plus all the other years that used the same part), and
> if you get really lucky, you'll even find a replacement that's already
> painted the right color. Stranger things have happened...

Well, actually I've already tried that.  For some reason *all*
(not just some, but all) of the '82 to '85 Buicks in the local yards
either have a header pannel that is in worse shape than mine, or no pannel
at all.  Only the Buicks, it seems like there are hundreds of Chubby
Celebrity and Cutlass Ciera pannels out there.

The best I could find was
an '84 that was busted in half right in the middle, and had a hole for a
hood ornament that my '82 dosn't have.  And they want $50 for it!!!  So,
at best, I'd have to brush up on my fiberglass repair, fill the ornament
hole, and paint the thing.  I *really* wanted to find a good pannel in the
yard, but they just are'nt there.  I tried a web parts locator,and they
found a good one (silver/complete with grill, etc) for...$275!!  OUCH!
(That was the yard that wanted more than Whitney) If
I were going to keep this car, I would think about it, but since I'm just
going to sell it I'm trying to keep the cost down.  After all, the more
money I put into it, the less I can spend on my Olds.  :)

Anyway, thanks again for the tips.  If anybody else has any
tips/advice on what to do, let me know, I'm always open to sugestions!

Scott
1960 Oldsmobile Rocket 98

------------------------------

From: "Tracey Cleeton" <tcleeton@mcmsys.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:10:21 -0400
Subject: Re: BHap

- ----------
> From: Death <dldeathe@mail.pittstate.edu>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: BHap
> Date: Friday, March 07, 1997 12:40 PM
>
>   BHap, you need to pull your head out of your anus and get
> some fresh air.

What he said...

------------------------------

From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:15:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Bermuda Triangle/Header pannels...(Kinda N/O) was J.C.

On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Scott R Clark wrote:
> Well, actually I've already tried that.  For some reason *all*
> (not just some, but all) of the '82 to '85 Buicks in the local yards
> either have a header pannel that is in worse shape than mine, or no pannel
> at all.  Only the Buicks, it seems like there are hundreds of Chubby
> Celebrity and Cutlass Ciera pannels out there.

Isn't it strange? I think junque yards are subject to mysterious forces
beyond the ability of the human mind to comprehend. For example: two years
ago when some miscreant swiped the wheel trim rings from my Olds, I
discovered that a set of late-model F*rd Tempo trim rings would make a
cheap but close substitute for the real thing. Every second Tempo I see
has these things, and there are lots of Tempos around, so the junque
yardes should be full of them, you'd think.

What I discovered after visiting at least a half-dozen yardes was
hundreds of Tempos - every one of them resting on the ground, sans
wheels. Or trim rings, of course. None of the helpful folk working in the
places were able to tell me where they went either. A continuing mystery...

But if you have a set of 14x6 SSII wheels and do find a set of Tempo
rings, they're a nice match for the Olds originals.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:24:33 -0400
Subject: Home Page Links

Hello all,

If you have a home page that you would like to have a link to from my home
page that i'm giving a badly needed update, send me a message.  The more
the merrier...

Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
Clayton Pierce,
zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu
'84 Cutlass Supreme...

------------------------------

From: chray@Logical.Net
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:25:39 -0400
Subject: "56 Olds

I have posted some pictures of my 56 Olds.  If anyone is interested they can
be found at www.logical.net/users/cttnhill.  Let me know what you think...

Ray Rettig

------------------------------

From: lacey@dsea.com (Dan Lacey)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:52:05 -0400
Subject: RE: Olds Marketing

>On Fri, 7 Mar 1997 scr@msu.oscs.montana.edu wrote:
>> As far as being loyal to Olds customers, they tried that and it didn't
work. >> THe 'loyal' customer is probably in their 60's and 70's, they need to
>>get new, >> younger 'soon to be loyal' customers. >> Sean Ray '89 Cutlass
Supreme International > >I tend to think otherwise. All you have to do is look
around at all the >people here and around your town with the early-80s G-body
Cutlasses. >Don't think you'll find to many of them in their 70's. >
>Customers become loyal when they find a product that gives them some
>benefits that are valuable to them. Traditionally in the case of Olds it >was
a combination of things, among which were:

Don't know about elsewhere, but in PA in the late 70's - early 80's, the
Cutlass was THE car to own...Everybody wanted one, or bought something that
was "just as good". It was a STANDARD.

Times may have changed, SUV's are the rage, sports cars (little) are back,
but I bet people would buy a "modern" 1979 Cutlass...


*************************************************************************
* THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY  *       Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )        *
*                           *       Dainippon Screen Eng. of America    *
* LEFT BLANK                *       3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.             *
*                           *       Santa Ana, CA. 92704                *
*************************************************************************

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From: David Nye <jdnye@norfolk.infi.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:42:27 -0400
Subject: Control Arm Bushings

Thanks for the response to my control arm bushing offering guys. They've
been sold. By the time I finish re-assembling this monster I may find
many other parts that I have no need for... I'll keep in touch.
Thanks again,
David Nye
'71 Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

From: Brad Nicholson <76062.3042@CompuServe.COM>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:40:55 -0400
Subject: Olds Centennial Club Meeting - 3/11/97 (Maryland)

Attention Maryland Oldsmobile Enthusiasts:
The next monthly meeting of the Oldsmobile Centennial Club is scheduled for
Tuesday March 11 starting at 7:00PM.  Location is Ernie Swanson Oldsmobile ,
410 North Crain Highway, Glen Burnie, MD.  If you need directions, drop me a
line. We may be a new club but there are already 20 enthusiastic members, a
cruise night at a drive-in theater & restaurant set up, discounted Olds parts,
a picnic in the works, and a great newsletter. Topics on the agenda are: 1)
current finances 2) upcoming events 3) start work on a show @ Ernie Swanson
Olds this summer 4) anything else that comes up Did I mention a deli tray,
soda & chips supplied by the dealership ! Come on out & meet fellow
enthusiasts.  All Oldsmobiles, show quality to under construction welcome.  If
you come please park down by the service bays, not in front of the showroom if
possible, they will be trying to sell cars that night and if yours is nice
enough, it may be sold by the end of the meeting.  We should be done no later
than 8:30PM.  Thanks for the bandwidth

 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson   OCAª18984
| | | 1987 442 W-42 (Currently galvanized steel grey w/ masking tape for trim)
|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
| | | 76062.3042@compuserve.com
 ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - MD (Future OCA Chapter)

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From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:42:54 -0400
Subject: Re: "56 Olds

I looked at the page,

REAL COOOL!  I'll link the page from my page if you want.  Also, you ought
to contact Bryceman about putting the pics on his site!  I'm looking
forward to seeing what progress you make on the car.

The '56 Olds is my second favorite year after the 1949 98's.
I'm always looking for either of these cars:
a '49 98
and a '56 88 (preferrably Super, but any would be cool).

If anybody know of either of these cars, in restorable condition, CHEAP,
please contact me!

Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
Clayton Pierce,
zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu

On Fri, 7 Mar 1997 chray@Logical.Net wrote:

> I have posted some pictures of my 56 Olds.  If anyone is interested they can
> be found at www.logical.net/users/cttnhill.  Let me know what you think...
>
> Ray Rettig
>
>
>

------------------------------

From: David Nye <jdnye@norfolk.infi.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:04:22 -0400
Subject: Fuel Pump

Hey Guys, I'm lookin' for a fuel pump for my '71 350 4bbl w/air(2-line).
AC has discontinued and Carter doesn't even list it any longer. Nothings
really wrong with mine, but since I'm doing an engine overhaul I'd like
to stick a new one on. Do I have a choice other than the Olds resoration
catalogs?
David Nye

------------------------------

From: Dana <dmtaylor@tiac.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:04:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Well wishes

Chris:
  Don't worry about BHap and his comments. We may all be losers but...
we are sensitive to our our friends problems. While I don't enjoy
hearing bad stories reguarding list members it makes me feel good to
know 1) you think enough about list members to share bad times with us
and 2) that the other members can relate to your trouble and feel for
you. I hope you get the insurance trouble straightened outand get your
car back 100% real soon.

------------------------------

From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:10:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump

Hey David,

Can you not get one at a regular parts store?  I very recently had no
problem at all getting one for my '74 350 4bbl.  I just bought mine at
Advance as I recall.  Is there really that much difference between that
one and a later one?

Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
Clayton Pierce,
zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu

On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, David Nye wrote:

> Hey Guys, I'm lookin' for a fuel pump for my '71 350 4bbl w/air(2-line).
> AC has discontinued and Carter doesn't even list it any longer. Nothings
> really wrong with mine, but since I'm doing an engine overhaul I'd like
> to stick a new one on. Do I have a choice other than the Olds resoration
> catalogs?
> David Nye
>
>

------------------------------

From: David Nye <jdnye@norfolk.infi.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:08:00 -0400
Subject: Still in Stock

My most recent trip to the Olds dealer led me to some pieces that are
still available from Olds fopr a '71-'72 Cutlass, FYI
power steering pump kit
fan shroud
exhaust manifold tab locks
firewall grommets

More to come,
David Nye
'71 Cutlass Supreme Rag-Top

------------------------------

From: Kipp_Norris@valdez.k12.ak.us (Kipp Norris)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:10:14 -0400
Subject: Inormation requested

I've been lurking for a while.  It seems like you folks are quite
knowledgeable, and I hope someone can offer some advice.  Here goes:  I own a
50 Olds, Rocket 88, it says "futuramic" on the side.  Its a two-door hard top.
 I bought it from my grandmother in 1979.  It has just over 100K miles on it
and ran fairly smoothly when I moved to Alaska 6 years ago.  It has been
outdoors since then (back home on the farm), yet I believe it is a very
restorable car.  I'm pretty good with woodworking, but I don't think I could
do this job justice.  What kind of money am I looking at in having it restored
proffesionally?  It would require some body work (a dent in each fender) a
paint job, no real rust problems, the electrical needs redone, and the
interior would some work.  Is this question even answerable having not seen
the car?  Where do I start?  What is it's value as is (ball park)?   Thanks.

K. Norris.


- --

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-
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From: theogns <theogns@avana.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:08:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Well wishes

I was dissappointed in one reader on the list who
> callously wrote this:
>
> Subject: your loss
>    Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:38:20 -0500 (EST)
>    From: BHap@aol.com
>      To: sparks@wanchai.aisf.com
>
> sorry to hear about your loss - but this is supposed to be like a
> tecnical page - not a soap opera......
>
> I don't feel that I abuse the bandwidth and I try to be very respectful
> of others on this list.

I must answer this. Sure the majority of what we discuss is of a tech
nature. However, this is an OLDSMOBILE list. Owning an Oldsmobile is an
EXPERIENCE. That is what is being shared here. If the powers to be all
of a sudden said "There will be technical discussions only" I for one
would leave. Tech discussions are boring usually. I had a '69 Cutlass
destroyed in a wreck, I know what you are going through. I lost mine
forever.

Danny

------------------------------

From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 22:02:37 -0400
Subject: Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...

At 04:40 PM 3/7/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Scott R Clark wrote:
>
>> P.S.--Has anybody ever ordered a carpet set for their classic Olds
>> from them?
>
>I have ordered several carpets from them.  The cheaper is cheaper, but I
>recommend the "CUSTOM-MOLDED carpet" $109 or $129.  It comes with
>insulation on the bottom side and shaped (molded) for the floorboard of
>your car.  The kickpad in sewn in the correct place, and a dimmer
>grommet is included too. They are dropped ship them from the factory and
>little trimming required to install.  I perfer 1 piece, but 2 piece are
>available.
>Even ordering by credit card, expect to wait 2 weeks.  It's worth the
>wait for me.  I've ordered and installed carpet in my 3 oldsmobiles, a
>69 ElCamino SS, 71 Cutlass S, 67 and a 76 Chevy pickup, and a 78 GMC
>truck. They all turned out great!

I'll second this.  I've ordered carpets for my '64 and '75 Olds's from
Whitney, and I've not been disappointed. Everything has been cut and fits
well, and I appreciated the kickpad and dimmer grommet.  The only real
cutting I've had to do has been for the dimmer switch.


Dan


************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
************************************************

------------------------------

From: PHartlieb@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 22:11:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Inormation requested

In a message dated 97-03-07 19:18:26 EST, you write:

>  Is this question even answerable having not seen
>  the car?  Where do I start?  What is it's value as is (ball park)?
  Thanks.

Can't give you restoration estimates, as I've yet to incur any myself.  But I
can tell you that if you're gonna put money into a '50 Olds, a Holiday Coupe
is the way to go.  '50 was the first year for the Holiday Coupe on the 88
body.  These are extremely desireable to Olds folks who appreciate that era.
 These don't often come up for sale in nice condition.  My guess would be
that a restored example would be worth somewhere in the neighborhood of
$12000 to $15000.  Dan Gulino can tell you what he shows in his value guide
for one of these.  Hear me, Dan?

Can you tell if it's a Deluxe body or a standard body?  I would tell you that
on the body plate but I guess that's a little out of the way for you.

Paul

------------------------------

From: PHartlieb@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 22:11:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Bad News from yesterday

In a message dated 97-03-07 09:55:31 EST, you write:

>  I am on pins
>  and needles worrying about who will be found at fault.  I certainly
>  wasn't at fault.  One good thing though is that the person who started
>  this whole mess is with the same insurance company.

Chris

Been there.  Done that.  Sounds like the deductible will be waived, but it
may end up being a 50/50 thing.  That's what happened to me, even though the
kid stopped his car on the yellow line in the middle of road.  Hope you can
make out better than I did.

Paul
fingers crossed

------------------------------

From: "John M. Loban" <cyberpsych@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:37:45 -0400
Subject: HEI swap

Want to switch to HEI in my 394 '63 olds.  Anybody know what year and
model GM distributors will work?  Of course the air cleaner will have to
be modified or changed and new primary wire run to distributor.  Any one
know??????  Thanks

------------------------------

From: theogns <theogns@avana.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:48:35 -0400
Subject: Re: HEI swap

John M. Loban wrote:
>
> Want to switch to HEI in my 394 '63 olds.  Anybody know what year and
> model GM distributors will work?  Of course the air cleaner will have to
> be modified or changed and new primary wire run to distributor.  Any one
> know??????  Thanks

Can you use a distributor from a '64? If so Year One sells a drop in
device that will convert a points ignition to breakerless.

Danny

------------------------------

From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 23:47:07 -0400
Subject: Re: J.C. you know who quality Q...

At 10:02 PM 3/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At 04:40 PM 3/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Scott R Clark wrote:
>>
>>> P.S.--Has anybody ever ordered a carpet set for their classic Olds
>>> from them?
>>
>>I have ordered several carpets from them.  The cheaper is cheaper, but I
>>recommend the "CUSTOM-MOLDED carpet" $109 or $129.  It comes with
>>insulation on the bottom side and shaped (molded) for the floorboard of
>>your car.  The kickpad in sewn in the correct place, and a dimmer
>>grommet is included too. They are dropped ship them from the factory and
>>little trimming required to install.  I perfer 1 piece, but 2 piece are
>>available.
>>Even ordering by credit card, expect to wait 2 weeks.  It's worth the
>>wait for me.  I've ordered and installed carpet in my 3 oldsmobiles, a
>>69 ElCamino SS, 71 Cutlass S, 67 and a 76 Chevy pickup, and a 78 GMC
>>truck. They all turned out great!
>
>I'll second this.  I've ordered carpets for my '64 and '75 Olds's from
>Whitney, and I've not been disappointed. Everything has been cut and fits
>well, and I appreciated the kickpad and dimmer grommet.  The only real
>cutting I've had to do has been for the dimmer switch.
>
>
>Dan
>
Hey Guys

        I want to inject my 2 cents worth. If you're going to spend that
kind of money purchase your carpets from Auto Custom Carpets. I've purchased
8-10 sets from them.The fit and finish is outstanding. Plus the usually sell
for about $89-95. They pay attention to the details.

Jim Chermack
70 Cutlass SX W-32
72 442

------------------------------

From: David1756@AOL.COM
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 01:10:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Iola Wisconsin Car Show

It's a huge show in a very small town.  And it is alot of fun.  Wisconsin is
beautiful in the summer.  Impossible to find a place to stay nearby too.  I
might try to go if not busy if anyone else on the list is interested.  Work
schedule may make Lansing difficult so this might be a nice substitute.

David Wilk
still looking for a Vista Cruiser
but will settle for?? as long as it's olderOldsmobile
and daily driveable...

------------------------------

From: mike.blankenship@medaphis.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:41:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Well wishes


This F-Head must own a 70 W30.

Mike
66 442
69 H/O
70 W30
71 442 Convt
_____________________________________________________________________________

Well it was worth the effort - but in the future - I'll go
>to real sources of information and not a bunch of losers and wannabe's
>
>BHap

------------------------------

From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 03:49:48 -0400
Subject: Oldsmobile Parts For Sale (New List)

The following is a list of Olds parts for sale.

64 Cutlass/442
(1) 64 V-8 Fender Emblem (good used)  $5.00
Grille Assm     $75.00
RH Headlight Door    $25.00
F. Bumper Core    $75.00
RH Tail Lens    $5.00ea
LH Tail Lens    $5.00ea
Tail Light Bezels (used) $15.00 ea
Steering Wheel Center   $10.00

65 Cutlass/442
(1) 65 V-8 Fender Emblem (good used)  $5.00

66 Cutlass/442
Headlight Doors    $45.00pr

67 Cutlass/442
400/425 NOS Fuel Pump    $50.00
Headlight Doors NOS   $125.00pr (cutlass)
(2) 67 Deluxe Full Wheel Covers  $15.00ea

67 Toronado
Dash Gauge Bezel   $55.00
Rear Glass    $50.00
Package Tray    $25.00

68 Cutlass/442
RH Headlight Plastic   $100.00ea
Headlight Doors    $5.00ea
Trunk Chrome Molding   $50.00set
Rear Bumper Core    $65.00 (cutlass)
Rear Window Moldings   $40.00set
(4) 68 Std. Full Wheel Covers  $75.00 set

68 Toronado
Headlight Vacuum Actuator    $50.00
Headlight Switch     $10.00
Dash Gauges    $10.00ea
Front Bumper    $75.00
Rear Bumper    $75.00
Turn Signal Lens   $65.00pr
Radiator Top Plate   $35.00

69 Cutlass/442
Headlight Doors   $50.00pr
Hood Tongue   $15.00
Hood Hinges   $20.00pr
LH Tail Light    $20.00
4 Row Radiator Top Plate   $75.00
Black Inner Fenders    $80.00pr

70 Cutlass/442
(1) 69-70 Front Rocket  $10.00
(1) 70 Trunk Lock Rocket (nice)  $10.00
(1) 14x7 HD Steel Wheel  (for dog dish caps) $20.00
Hood Tongue   $20.00ea
Headlight Doors   $55.00pr
Hood Hinges  $20.00pr
442 Post Door Panels   $40.00pr
Cutlass S Grilles   $50.00pr
Rear Upper Control Arms   $50.00pr
455 Distributor ª1111978 (2nd design)   $25.00
455/425/400  Offenhauser 2-4bbl. low rise intake w/2 carter 550 cfm carbs.
(Complete setup w/ linkage) $350.00
70 Cutlass "S" Side Moldings (set) $135.00
70 AM/FM Mono w/amp $85.00
70-72 Power Disc Brake Booster w/ master cyl. $75.00 as is
($135.00 rebuilt & detailed)
70-72 Bumper Bracket Sets $40.00 set

72 Cutlass/442
New '72 Main Dash Woodgraining Kit  (around radio area)  $20.00
(4) 72-74 Deluxe Wheel Covers (nice) $50.00set
72 Cutlass Supreme Side Moldings (set) 135.00
Boxed Lower Control Arms  $60.00pr
Dash Pads (A/C car, 2 black)   $125.00ea
Edelbrock Performer 350 Intake (fits all small block except 260 )  $100.00

Misc: 1986/87  88/98 Wire Wheel Covers   $125.00set

**** New stuff to list****
(1) 64 F-85 Fender Emblem (nice) $15.00
65?-70 B&C Body Rear Coil Springs (almost new)  $40.00 pr
68-72 B-Pillar Molding Set (black, mint) $50.00 pr
68-72 Windshield Chrome Trim $45.00 Set
68 442 Hood Louver Set $50.00 set (3)
68 Front Hood Molding (small scratch, no pitts)  $15.00
68-69 Left Quarter Panel (whole thing to roof, no rust w/inner wheelwell)
$325.00
68-72 Lower Control Arms  (Oval Bushings)  $65.00 ea (used)  $120.00 ea
(rebuilt)
69-70 442/Cutlass S Hood Louvers $50.00 pr
69-70 442 Cutlass S Hood Louver Bezels $40.00 pr
12 Bolt Posi Ch*vy Rear 3.73:1 or 4.10:1 (Posi rebuilt)  $550.00
70-72 Trunk Chrome Finish Molding  $35.00 ea
70-72 Factory 8-track (black, works) $145.00
70-72 Dash Clocks  $20.00 ea
70-72 Dash Block Off  $5.00 ea
71-7? 10 Bolt 2.73:1 Open Rear End  $125.00
71-7? 10 Bolt 2.73:1  Anti-Spin Rear End   $350.00
Rear Hood Molding  $50.00 ea
Cowl/Windshield mouldings  $35.00ea
T-3 Headlight Sets $30.00 set (nice working used)
14x7 SSII Wheel Set (4) (bolt on cap) $200.00 set
14x6 SSIII Wheels (newer snap on cap)  $25.00ea


P.S.  We have more parts in stock, and more coming! Also looking at
reproducing the difficult to locate 70-72 Auto Trans Console Indicator.
I have about 30 orders already. I'm looking to get 50 before I repop them.
$24.00 ea new. Let us know if your interested.

Jim Chermack
'70 Cutlass SX W-32
'72 442
Virginia  Beach, VA
(757) 474-0869

------------------------------

From: CHRIS MATTHES <CDOGG73@ELKNET.NET>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:14:58 -0400
Subject: production figures wanted

Can anyone tell me, or tell me how to find out how many cars were made
with the same options as mine...

I have a 73 cutlass s, with the 350/350 which is really common, I know,
but my car has the rally hood, power brake delete, and radio delete, as
it was special ordered or something, so I was told by the old guy who
sold it to me...

Also, the jacking instructions sticker in the trunk is the 70-72 sticker,
does this mean anything worthwhile?

thanks

Chris Matthes
CDOGG73@elknet.net

------------------------------

From: "bemet" <bemet@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:04:48 -0400
Subject: Re: seat cover mfrers?

I need to recover the seats (pearl white) of my 71 W30 conv
I've called
Year One- they sell PUI (?)
Brothers - they sell their own brand
Fusick- they sell ICP
SuperCars- they sell Crown

Does anyone have experience with any of these brands or sellers in terms of
color and fit. Any suggestions? Thanks.

------------------------------

From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:57:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: T-3 Inquiry

The color varies - it goes dark yellow-orange occasionally.  Heck, I don't
ever drive it at night so theres big gaps in time between using them.  I
haven't checked the bulb yet - will see about it - but I'm still taking
Dave up on his offer.

Thanks -

Lisa Madsen

Heavy Metal Forever - '67 Delta 88 , '72 Vista Cruiser , '72 Vista Cruiser
project

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:57:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Still in Stock

Thanks - thats valuable info to alot of us (and saves us from asking!!!)

Looking forward to hearing more.....

Lisa Madsen

Heavy Metal Forever - '67 Delta 88 , '72 Vista Cruiser , '72 Vista Cruiser
project

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:57:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Bad News from yesterday

I settled for State Farm's Classic coverage for my Delta although the
wording on what they cover is still a bit ambiguous....

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Take care -

Lisa Madsen

Heavy Metal Forever - '67 Delta 88 , '72 Vista Cruiser , '72 Vista Cruiser
project

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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From: "C.R.F." <wizkid@inlink.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:02:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump

At 08:04 PM 3/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey Guys, I'm lookin' for a fuel pump for my '71 350 4bbl w/air(2-line).
>AC has discontinued and Carter doesn't even list it any longer. Nothings
>really wrong with mine, but since I'm doing an engine overhaul I'd like
>to stick a new one on. Do I have a choice other than the Olds resoration
>catalogs?
>David Nye
>
>
A couple of months ago I bought one, a brand new AC from the Ch*vy dealer
around the corner from where I live.  It's hard to imagine that they've been
discontinued since then.

The Wiz

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From: SRB442@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:23:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump

In a message dated 97-03-08 09:09:21 EST, you write:

<< At 08:04 PM 3/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
 >Hey Guys, I'm lookin' for a fuel pump for my '71 350 4bbl w/air(2-line).
 >AC has discontinued and Carter doesn't even list it any longer. Nothings
 >really wrong with mine, but since I'm doing an engine overhaul I'd like
 >to stick a new one on. Do I have a choice other than the Olds resoration
 >catalogs?
 >David Nye >>

 Try your local A/C Delco dealer. I just got one for my 70 442 with A/C and
it was right on the shelf. I have found out over the years that just because
the parts guy says they don't have it or can't get it is not always true. I
have had someone at a parts store tell me they don't have it and talk to
someone else and all of a sudden they have it in stock. My parts book lists
68-74 4 BC part number 7035031. I would think that is very common. If you
don't want stock you could always get a chrome holley mechanical for around
$50.
                                                        Steve
67 442
70 442
73 442
85 Delta 88 Royale Brougham

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From: jeff antonucci <antonj@erols.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:01:53 -0400
Subject: Re: seat cover mfrers?

I bought my pearl white covers from Specialty Olds in Florida they had
the best prices, and gave me a choice between PUI and ICP.  I chose PUI
because they were the only one of the two who offered matching head rest
covers.  I am very happy with the quality of the seat covers so far, but
the door panel chrome trim was not perfect.

Jeff.

70 442 Conv.
91 Calais 442  W-41

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From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:21:55 -0400
Subject: Re: seat cover mfrers?

At 08:04 AM 3/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I need to recover the seats (pearl white) of my 71 W30 conv
>I've called
>Year One- they sell PUI (?)
>Brothers - they sell their own brand
>Fusick- they sell ICP
>SuperCars- they sell Crown
>
>Does anyone have experience with any of these brands or sellers in terms of
>color and fit. Any suggestions? Thanks.
>

Hey All,

        A friend of mine was in the business for a long time and I've used
several different manufacturers over the years, but they vary based on year
which one is better.

IPC= Crown these are the same. Excellent for all models except 68-69
perforated styles. Then you want PUI there imbossing isn't as deep, and look
much better. If I remember IPC did do some years of the original stuff. Hope
this helps.

Jim Chermack
70 Cutlass SX W-32
72 442

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From: BobH592058@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:46:40 -0400
Subject: Dave Paulison

I apologize for posting this to the list but I can't think of another way.

Dave Paulison:  been trying to e-mail you for three days.  They bounce saying
your mailbox is full.

Bob Handren

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From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:17:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Emergency info needed! Quick reply desired.

Wiz,

I had my car at CARX the other day and the news was what I expected, I need a
master cylinder, BUT

I've got diff oil leaking into the right side rear brake area.
I guess this means I've got a bad seal inside the diff housing right?
Look, are these seals something that I can replace myself without any fancy
tools, or should I take it to a shop?

That is, providing that I can find the part stamping on the tupe in order to
reference the correct part numbers, and I remember E-conversation about how
this could be anywhere. I am not in the mood to look for it but...

Thanks in advance

Karl Aune
Chicago IL
1965 Dynamic 88 (425)

(usual witticism about duct tape)

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From: Aaron D Eoff <sheep542@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:29:29 -0400
Subject: Floor pan installer

Need any inforamtion from olds owners who can recommend someone to install a
floor pan on a 1977 Olds cutlass. I Have had the pan for 2 mos. and every
place i have been to wants to do cut it up or use something else
altogtether. I live in northern NJ and  I am willing to travel if necessary.
The floor pan is actually for an El Camino or Chevelle 73-77. I Bought it
based on reccomendations from this list which proved to be very helpful.
Thanks in advance to all the responders.

AAron

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:55:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Floor pan installer

On Sat, 8 Mar 1997, Aaron D Eoff wrote:
> Need any inforamtion from olds owners who can recommend someone to install a
> floor pan on a 1977 Olds cutlass. I Have had the pan for 2 mos. and every
> place i have been to wants to do cut it up or use something else
> altogtether. I live in northern NJ and  I am willing to travel if necessary.

I would look for a body shop in the area that is run by someone who is
into the old-car hobby. Check with a few local car club members or go to
a cruise night and ask for recommendations. I got lucky here and found a
good body-and-paint shop run by a good guy who's into restoring old cars
himself. His prices are the same as everybody else's; he's just a whole
lot more sypathetic to working with the old stuff. I'm certain there's a
similar sort of place near you. Good luck.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:59:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump

On Sat, 8 Mar 1997 SRB442@aol.com wrote:
> << At 08:04 PM 3/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>  >Hey Guys, I'm lookin' for a fuel pump for my '71 350 4bbl w/air(2-line).
>  >AC has discontinued and Carter doesn't even list it any longer. Nothings
>  >really wrong with mine, but since I'm doing an engine overhaul I'd like
>  >to stick a new one on. Do I have a choice other than the Olds resoration
>  >catalogs?
>  Try your local A/C Delco dealer. I just got one for my 70 442 with A/C and
> it was right on the shelf. I have found out over the years that just because
> the parts guy says they don't have it or can't get it is not always true. I
> have had someone at a parts store tell me they don't have it and talk to
> someone else and all of a sudden they have it in stock. My parts book lists
> 68-74 4 BC part number 7035031. I would think that is very common. If you
> don't want stock you could always get a chrome holley mechanical for around
> $50.

Sorry for a dumb question, but where does the second line on a 2-line
fuel pump come from? And what is it's purpose? Any advantage to
converting to one?

When we did the 4-barrel switchover on my '68 last year we didn't change
the fuel pump, and it seems fine, but now I'm wondering...

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: James Pindar <jp@webspan.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:51:24 -0400
Subject: Re: TPS

Etzel Bobby wrote:
>
> Jim, this is just a thought, try cleaning/replaceing the idle control valve.
I > dont know where it is located on the Quad4. I dont have any doc's on this >
engine. It is a valve that controls the idle, from the computer, and can get >
carboned up. This part can cause the trouble you are haveing. > > Bobby >
Bobby and Jim, I tried that and, alas, it didn't work

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From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 14:26:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Well wishes and aol

Firstly, my belated condolences to Mr. Sparks on the injury of his
Oldsmobile. Get well soon. Please let us know if you require info on
availability of parts for repairs (junque yards,et.c).

Secondly, I want to address the issue of aol'ers with poor attitudes. You are
absolutely right, there are altogether too many of them who are either
childish or children. The offender who was discussed earlier possessed an
attitude that is in fact common to many occupant of the various "chat rooms".
Although this is indeed a sad state of affairs, not much can be done about
it, viz. the number of people who still Email in caps. Please don't think
less of me for being a member, rather feel for me in that I am more likely to
interact with other aol'ers.

Thirdly, I want to thank everyone again for being so helpful. I often feel
that I am taking advantage of you all, as you are (collectively) very
helpful, even though my queries often interrupt ongoing threads. I feel
particularly foolish when my problem's solution is outlined in an FAQ or some
part of www.442.com.

Well that's all for now, gotta work on the diff.

Looking forward to the possibility of meeting many of you in Lansing.

Karl Aune
Chicago, IL
1965 Dynamic 88

(this space for duct tape)

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From: Timothy Carl Hietpas <thietpas@csd.uwm.edu>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:47:25 -0400
Subject: Driveshaft vibrations

Help,

Last weekend I replaced the factory u-joints because there was over 110k
miles on them.  Now when I am doing 50 to 60mph I get a huge buzzing
noise and the car starts to slightly shimmy.  What did I do wrong when
installing the new u-joints?

Tim
thietpas@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu
1987 Olds 442

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