
oldsmobile-digest      Sunday, October 10 2004      Volume 01 : Number 5051



Re: Non Olds Humor
what's a '64 442 worth?
Block rear face F-whatever cast-in ID
Valve Clearance?
Is my pic too dark in this eVil ad?
Re: Is my pic too dark in this eVil ad?
Is my pic too dark in this eVil ad?
what's a '64 442 worth?
RE: what's a '64 442 worth?
Re: what's a '64 442 worth?
Re: Valve Clearance?
Re: Non Olds Humor
Re: Non Olds Humor
'77 442 for sale.
Re: Non Olds Humor
Re: Non Olds Humor
Some Cop humor.
Re: OCA volunteers
Re: Non Olds Humor
[none]
Re:
Re: Re:

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 03:45:51 -0400 
From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such things as
Dakotas and Neons........

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:56:14 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: what's a '64 442 worth?

Milton, others

friend considering purchase of 2nd owner 1964 442
All indicatons are that it is a real 442
Correct stabilizer bar in the front
It's a 3237 model I think- 2 dr hardtop.
Has rubber perches for rear snubbers that MT cars got.
MT and console all in order
Had has what we in MI call "minor" rust- mouse sized holes but not coon 
sized.
Was whitish, now red, no rust visible on quick glance.
trunk floor pan replaced according to the paperwork.
Runs great, stops well for 4-wheel drums. Very pretty overall, some wear and 
tear on the interior and such

Too far from stock to be "unrestored"
Too far from pretty to be show car as is.
VERY restorable.
Worst rust I saw was floor supports had gotten clogged drain holes, and so, 
at each end, maybe 1/2 to 1" of metal was questionable. [Typically 6-8" of 
metal is GONE there on MI car]

Front end rebuilt some time ago, new clutch recently.

Engine- has been out about 3 times.
One pinhead put wrong cam in, excess lift ran to coil bind, broke rocker 
shaft support, etc.
That was fixed by subsequent rebuild.
Running 8cc pistons at .030 over size now.
No seat belts  :-(
but, bolts are there- can be added.
Dash is nice, whole interior is Looks Good at First Glance

Pic or 2 upon request.

No sales of such things to go by for pricing- hella rare though.
Man is seeking $15k, I think for 15K, one could get a nice convertible of 
later years.
Then again, that's not the original 442 then.

Input?

Please cc direct to me, as I am on digest.

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:14:29 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Block rear face F-whatever cast-in ID

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:34:19 -0400
From: "Dan Roethel" <droethel@rogers.com>
Subject: Block stamping numbers

I was looking at the back of my 69 455 block and noticed the stamping F4
68. Since the 69 model year is released in the fall of 68 does this explain 
the
stamping? The 69 car and block are made in 1968 therefore the stamping on 
some parts
should say 68? Is this correct?
=========================
That "68 F4" thing I have found on blocks up thru 1972 or so
Based on the latest best rumor I have- that the F-whatever thing is nothing 
more than the ID of the foundry box the block was cast in, that sounds 
right. When they started making 455's in 1968 model year, they modified or 
made new foundry boxes, and some were thus dubbed "68..."

It certainly has no direct tie to a 1968 casting or 1968-69 model year only.

Sure would love to find the guy that put them F-whatevers there, and ask him 
how he knew which to put when [what's it all MEAN, man?!]

PS that's not "stamped" into the block, it's an embossed or raised cast-in 
ID. It helps to clarify things. The VIN derivative, that's -stamped- in.

CBWitt

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:44:25 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Valve Clearance?

Anybody know the valve clearance of, specifically, an '86-'90 307 
small block VIN Y? I'm wondering how close my open valves came to 
my pistons when the timing chain failed  ;o(((

At what valve lift does valve-to-piston interference occur on ANY 
Olds V8 with a non-working timing chain? That is, do the valves ever 
hit the pistons with a slipped/snapped timing chain??

Thanks,
SteveH



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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:51:27 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Is my pic too dark in this eVil ad?

or is it just my computer?

Can some of you please look see at this ad and see if you can make out any 
detail on the face of this antique phone?

Thanks...
fwd comments direct to me please:
     RocketScience442@hotmail.com

CBWitt

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2275733967

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:44:10 -0400
From: John Livingston <johnliving@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Is my pic too dark in this eVil ad?

It's too dark to see any detail on my screen, too.

John
'42 Bakelight Rotary

>or is it just my computer?
>
>Can some of you please look see at this ad and 
>see if you can make out any detail on the face 
>of this antique phone?
>
>Thanks...
>fwd comments direct to me please:
>     RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>
>CBWitt
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2275733967
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:56:22 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: Is my pic too dark in this eVil ad?

Nice phone.  My house had a wall mount version in 1950 (it 
was replaced with dial phone soon after).  Our number was 
22 ring 4.  You crank to get the operator, then use your 
telephone dry cells to power the conversation.  Just like the 
wooden "farm" wall phones with the mouthpiece sticking 
out.  A couple of them make a good intercome, but don't try 
to use it (without conversion) on todays' phone lines.
Bruce (designs phone equipment since 1967) Roe

9 Oct 2004  "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com> writes:

> Can some of you please look see at this ad and see if 
> you can make out any 
> detail on the face of this antique phone?

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:36:47 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: what's a '64 442 worth?

I would not pay such money for a rusty car with a 330 wanting 
premium leaded, and drum brakes, but what do I know.    Bruce Roe

9 Oct 2004 "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com> writes:

> considering purchase of 2nd owner 1964 442
> All indicatons are that it is a real 442

> Man is seeking $15k, I think for 15K, one could get a nice 
> convertible of later years.

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:53:03 -0400
From: Jack Kopf <jkopf@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: what's a '64 442 worth?

At 15k it is too expensive for a #3- to justify restoring and only 
a 15K pile of rusting litter if you don't restore it. 

For 15k you can get a decent car that someone else already spent a 
load of cash on.  



From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of bcroe@juno.com
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:37 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: what's a '64 442 worth?


I would not pay such money for a rusty car with a 330 wanting 
premium leaded, and drum brakes, but what do I know.    Bruce Roe

9 Oct 2004 "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com> writes:

> considering purchase of 2nd owner 1964 442
> All indicatons are that it is a real 442

> Man is seeking $15k, I think for 15K, one could get a nice 
> convertible of later years.

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 12:58:58 -0400
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: what's a '64 442 worth?

15k is awful high for anything with sizable rust holes, even if it may be a
442. For about a quarter of that price, you could probably find a 64 Cutlass
in better shape, drop in a 4 speed and get your 442 badges. Then again, you
won't have that "peace of mind" that it's a GENUINE 442, oh my!
If you're really willing to spend 15k on a car, go find something that needs
NOTHING, there are a lot of cars out there like that. On the plus side,
everyone's beginning to feel the Clinton recession, and it's truly a buyer's
market. I'd be willing to bet that the man won't be able to find a buyer for
anything more than 6k. It may be rare, but it's not the same kind of rare as
a 66 L69 or Hemi Cuda convertible.

Chris
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
To: <imp@theriver.com>; <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:56 AM
Subject: what's a '64 442 worth?


> Milton, others
>
> friend considering purchase of 2nd owner 1964 442
> All indicatons are that it is a real 442
> Correct stabilizer bar in the front
> It's a 3237 model I think- 2 dr hardtop.
> Has rubber perches for rear snubbers that MT cars got.
> MT and console all in order
> Had has what we in MI call "minor" rust- mouse sized holes but not coon
> sized.
> Was whitish, now red, no rust visible on quick glance.
> trunk floor pan replaced according to the paperwork.
> Runs great, stops well for 4-wheel drums. Very pretty overall, some wear
and
> tear on the interior and such
>
> Too far from stock to be "unrestored"
> Too far from pretty to be show car as is.
> VERY restorable.
> Worst rust I saw was floor supports had gotten clogged drain holes, and
so,
> at each end, maybe 1/2 to 1" of metal was questionable. [Typically 6-8" of
> metal is GONE there on MI car]
>
> Front end rebuilt some time ago, new clutch recently.
>
> Engine- has been out about 3 times.
> One pinhead put wrong cam in, excess lift ran to coil bind, broke rocker
> shaft support, etc.
> That was fixed by subsequent rebuild.
> Running 8cc pistons at .030 over size now.
> No seat belts  :-(
> but, bolts are there- can be added.
> Dash is nice, whole interior is Looks Good at First Glance
>
> Pic or 2 upon request.
>
> No sales of such things to go by for pricing- hella rare though.
> Man is seeking $15k, I think for 15K, one could get a nice convertible of
> later years.
> Then again, that's not the original 442 then.
>
> Input?
>
> Please cc direct to me, as I am on digest.
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 13:16:42 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Valve Clearance?

regaurdless of the specs youre seeking, it dont bend valves, 
ron  
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "SteveH" <k0xp@dandy.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Valve Clearance?


> Anybody know the valve clearance of, specifically, an '86-'90 307 
> small block VIN Y? I'm wondering how close my open valves came to 
> my pistons when the timing chain failed  ;o(((
> 
> At what valve lift does valve-to-piston interference occur on ANY 
> Olds V8 with a non-working timing chain? That is, do the valves ever 
> hit the pistons with a slipped/snapped timing chain??
> 
> Thanks,
> SteveH
> 
> 
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 13:18:51 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
Ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor


> SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such things as
> Dakotas and Neons........
>

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 11:13:18 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

I confused the SRT, with Cadillac's new SRX yesterday, my
mistake........,momentary retardation on my part. Have any of you seen this
SRX thing Cadillac has made? I still don't quite know what to make of it.
Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor


> stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
> Ron
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
> To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>
>
> > SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such things
as
> > Dakotas and Neons........
> >
>
>

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 11:20:23 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: '77 442 for sale.

Happy Saturday list folks. In my local paper is a person who has a 77 442
for sale, the add reads ;"1977 Olds.442 project, runs good, needs paint &
interior work, lots of new parts, 1450$ OBO. 509-838-7042 .

Thought I would toss that into the mix for anyone who is interested.

Rick Messenger
Spokane Washington

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:42:40 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

 what to make of.
1 over priced
2 hope the warrenty never runs out
3 it will take you 3 yrs to read the owners manual
4 way too much electronics
5 on the plus leather heated seats
6 stereo system that make the ricer guys  cry.
 7 it keeps the  other countries busy makeing parts and financially stable.
   thats what i make of it.
ron 

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor


>I confused the SRT, with Cadillac's new SRX yesterday, my
> mistake........,momentary retardation on my part. Have any of you seen this
> SRX thing Cadillac has made? I still don't quite know what to make of it.
> Rick Messenger
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> 
> 
>> stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
>> Ron
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
>> To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>>
>>
>> > SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such things
> as
>> > Dakotas and Neons........
>> >
>>
>>
> 
> 
>

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 12:18:32 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

I have a customer who owns one, and from my vantage point, you better grow
another set of eyeballs some where just to read all the gee whiz stuff on
the dash. Especially while barreling down the Interstate at 80 . Now just
"where" the extra set of eyeballs should go..........., I shall leave up to
the list!

Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor


> what to make of.
> 1 over priced
> 2 hope the warrenty never runs out
> 3 it will take you 3 yrs to read the owners manual
> 4 way too much electronics
> 5 on the plus leather heated seats
> 6 stereo system that make the ricer guys  cry.
>  7 it keeps the  other countries busy makeing parts and financially
stable.
>    thats what i make of it.
> ron
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>
>
> >I confused the SRT, with Cadillac's new SRX yesterday, my
> > mistake........,momentary retardation on my part. Have any of you seen
this
> > SRX thing Cadillac has made? I still don't quite know what to make of
it.
> > Rick Messenger
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >
> >
> >> stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
> >> Ron
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
> >> To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >>
> >>
> >> > SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such
things
> > as
> >> > Dakotas and Neons........
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:08:06 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Some Cop humor.

Most of you fella's have probably figured out by now that I love a good
laugh. I thought this was pretty good, so I am passing it along. Enjoy!
Rick Messenger

"Relax, the handcuffs are tight because they're new. They'll stretch out
after you wear them awhile."

"Take your hands off the car, and I'll make your birth certificate a
worthless document."

"If you run, you'll go to jail tired."

"Can you run faster than 1,200 feet per second? In case you didn't know,
that is the average speed of a 9mm bullet fired from my gun."

"So you don't know how fast you were going. I guess that means I can write
anything I want on the ticket, huh?"

"Warning! You want a warning? Ok., I'm warning you not to do that again or
I'll give you another ticket."

"The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or
not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?"

"Fair? You want me to be fair? Listen, fair is a place where you go to ride
on rides, eat cotton candy, and step in cow s**t."

"Yeah, we have a quota. Two more tickets and my wife gets a toaster oven."

"In God we trust, all others we run through NCIC."

"Just how big were those two beers?"

"No sir we don't have quotas anymore. We used to have quotas but now we're
allowed to write as many tickets as we want."

"I'm glad to hear the Chief of Police is a good personal friend of yours. At
least you know someone who can post your bail."

"You didn't think we give pretty women tickets? You're right, we don't. Sign
here."

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:16:00 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: OCA volunteers

At 09:14 AM 10/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
......
>>How could folks with that level of competency possibly have innacuracies in 
>>judging? That just does not seem possible.
>
>It's really very simple, and you even alluded to it in an earlier e-mail
>where you said you would have been happy, yourself, to have helped judge
>several years with which you're familiar. OCA judges are VOLUNTEERS: they
>are recruited from the general membership and those who can be at any
>particular show. Thus, their expertise, familiarity with any particular
>vehicle, and competency can vary widely. In his e-mail, Mr. Casey, himself,
>said he was running around trying to line up the judges early that morning.
>SteveH
>================
>I see. I see... that as further evidence of incompetence. 'Cause, I never 
>heard word one about anyone seeking volunteers for judging. Therefore, they 
>did a poor job of getting the word out. It's not like I was MIA or 
>elsewhere. I guess when you work with volunteers, you takes what you can 
>get, it's not like you can punish them by firing them.

I just received the October issue of the New England Olds Club newsletter.
There's an article by a guy who drove his car from Connecticut to Minnesota
for judging, and he's somewhat critical of some aspects of the judging, as
you can read from the excerpt below:

"... yeah I know I am a brave man to let my wife hit the mall with a credit
card, but it was part of the deal. She'd be sitting by the car on Froday
for judging as I judged other classes. The deal did NOT includ cleaning or
waxing or polishing of any type, I'll need to work on that next year.

"The seminars started Thursday night and proved quite informative.......
.........
"I have judged shows on the local and regional level and felt that I really
needed to step up and judge the Nationals. While this was my first
experience, I can only hope it isn't my last. I am sure that being a head
judge carried a lot of responsibility and certainly a lot of things that
must be organized but was floored by what seemed to be a total lack of
organization. I know my wife was glad that the judging started a bit
slow.... otherwise she might have missed it entirely! I certainly could
have used the additional time to get my car a little more presentable.

"ABout 11AM we finally got to our class and started to take a look at what
was there. Most of the cars were spectacular, a few others well.....  there
always needs to be something to compare the good cars to. My judging team
decided to work through lunch, and we finished about 2:40. So much for only
spending 10 minutes on each car! Overall it was an enjoyable experience and
if I make it to the next couple Nationals I'll probably judge again as I
doubt I'll be taking my car to the West coast or to Texas. .... One idea
that I loved and hopefully will be followed at future nationals is the
return of EVERY judging sheet to the owner! Judging in itself I think needs
to be a bit more level in terms of what constitutes a 1st, 2nd and 3rd
place car. There were some cars in the Senior classes that were far
inferior to most of the cars in the Junior classes. Look for a little more
on my take on judging in future issues...."

So, there it is: an essay by one volunteer judge at the Nationals.

>To mis-quote from Tom Sawyer:
>"If I was as ignorant as that, I wouldn't let on..."
>
>Maybe next time I can be an incompetent official or nitpicking judge. :-)

The problem is that the whole system depends upon folks who can BE there,
and also know enough about the classes to feel competent to volunteer their
services as judges. I'm sure there have to be a few bad apples in the bunch
but similarly, the impression I get is that most of the judges do the best
that they know how, with what they know about the class they're judging.

>"Meathead Judge"
>Hey, that's THEIR term!

If these folks were paid and not volunteers, I'd go along with that. But it
sure sounds to me like they try to do the best they can. I don't think
classifying them all as Meathead Judges does anyone any good.

SteveH

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 20:51:36 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

at least on star can dial  911 after they crash it, cuz  they were watching the tv and gabbing on 
the cell phone and watching there navigation sys.
Ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor


>I have a customer who owns one, and from my vantage point, you better grow
> another set of eyeballs some where just to read all the gee whiz stuff on
> the dash. Especially while barreling down the Interstate at 80 . Now just
> "where" the extra set of eyeballs should go..........., I shall leave up to
> the list!
>
> Rick Messenger
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>
>
>> what to make of.
>> 1 over priced
>> 2 hope the warrenty never runs out
>> 3 it will take you 3 yrs to read the owners manual
>> 4 way too much electronics
>> 5 on the plus leather heated seats
>> 6 stereo system that make the ricer guys  cry.
>>  7 it keeps the  other countries busy makeing parts and financially
> stable.
>>    thats what i make of it.
>> ron
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
>> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>>
>>
>> >I confused the SRT, with Cadillac's new SRX yesterday, my
>> > mistake........,momentary retardation on my part. Have any of you seen
> this
>> > SRX thing Cadillac has made? I still don't quite know what to make of
> it.
>> > Rick Messenger
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
>> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:18 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>> >
>> >
>> >> stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
>> >> Ron
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
>> >> To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such
> things
>> > as
>> >> > Dakotas and Neons........
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 22:26:24 -0300
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: [none]

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Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 18:26:11 -0700
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or shaving ,or applying lipstick, or eating a bowl of Corn Flakes. Do you
suppose with all those air bags, that a person would still "jelly" up their
pants in a head on?

Rick
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor


> at least on star can dial  911 after they crash it, cuz  they were
watching the tv and gabbing on
> the cell phone and watching there navigation sys.
> Ron
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>
>
> >I have a customer who owns one, and from my vantage point, you better
grow
> > another set of eyeballs some where just to read all the gee whiz stuff
on
> > the dash. Especially while barreling down the Interstate at 80 . Now
just
> > "where" the extra set of eyeballs should go..........., I shall leave up
to
> > the list!
> >
> > Rick Messenger
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >
> >
> >> what to make of.
> >> 1 over priced
> >> 2 hope the warrenty never runs out
> >> 3 it will take you 3 yrs to read the owners manual
> >> 4 way too much electronics
> >> 5 on the plus leather heated seats
> >> 6 stereo system that make the ricer guys  cry.
> >>  7 it keeps the  other countries busy makeing parts and financially
> > stable.
> >>    thats what i make of it.
> >> ron
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> >> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >>
> >>
> >> >I confused the SRT, with Cadillac's new SRX yesterday, my
> >> > mistake........,momentary retardation on my part. Have any of you
seen
> > this
> >> > SRX thing Cadillac has made? I still don't quite know what to make of
> > it.
> >> > Rick Messenger
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> >> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:18 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
> >> >> Ron
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
> >> >> To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such
> > things
> >> > as
> >> >> > Dakotas and Neons........
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 23:05:16 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re:

look at it this way with all those computers the vehicle knows impact is imminent  and it 
automatically calls there lawyer  and takes pic for law suite to follow.
Ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:26 PM


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> or shaving ,or applying lipstick, or eating a bowl of Corn Flakes. Do you
> suppose with all those air bags, that a person would still "jelly" up their
> pants in a head on?
>
> Rick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>
>
>> at least on star can dial  911 after they crash it, cuz  they were
> watching the tv and gabbing on
>> the cell phone and watching there navigation sys.
>> Ron
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
>> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>>
>>
>> >I have a customer who owns one, and from my vantage point, you better
> grow
>> > another set of eyeballs some where just to read all the gee whiz stuff
> on
>> > the dash. Especially while barreling down the Interstate at 80 . Now
> just
>> > "where" the extra set of eyeballs should go..........., I shall leave up
> to
>> > the list!
>> >
>> > Rick Messenger
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
>> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:42 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>> >
>> >
>> >> what to make of.
>> >> 1 over priced
>> >> 2 hope the warrenty never runs out
>> >> 3 it will take you 3 yrs to read the owners manual
>> >> 4 way too much electronics
>> >> 5 on the plus leather heated seats
>> >> 6 stereo system that make the ricer guys  cry.
>> >>  7 it keeps the  other countries busy makeing parts and financially
>> > stable.
>> >>    thats what i make of it.
>> >> ron
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
>> >> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:13 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I confused the SRT, with Cadillac's new SRX yesterday, my
>> >> > mistake........,momentary retardation on my part. Have any of you
> seen
>> > this
>> >> > SRX thing Cadillac has made? I still don't quite know what to make of
>> > it.
>> >> > Rick Messenger
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
>> >> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:18 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
>> >> >> Ron
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
>> >> >> To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on such
>> > things
>> >> > as
>> >> >> > Dakotas and Neons........
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 20:35:23 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Re:

I gotta ask, what would the lawyer submit for evidence? The Computer, the
shaver, the bowel of spilled Corn Flakes, the lipstick.............., or
(Gasp) the jellied up underwear?  Because frankly, they don't give much of a
rip about you........, just who is going to pay them.

Rick
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:05 PM
Subject: Re:


> look at it this way with all those computers the vehicle knows impact is
imminent  and it
> automatically calls there lawyer  and takes pic for law suite to follow.
> Ron
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:20

> >
> > or shaving ,or applying lipstick, or eating a bowl of Corn Flakes. Do
you
> > suppose with all those air bags, that a person would still "jelly" up
their
> > pants in a head on?
> >
> > Rick
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >
> >
> >> at least on star can dial  911 after they crash it, cuz  they were
> > watching the tv and gabbing on
> >> the cell phone and watching there navigation sys.
> >> Ron
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> >> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:18 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >>
> >>
> >> >I have a customer who owns one, and from my vantage point, you better
> > grow
> >> > another set of eyeballs some where just to read all the gee whiz
stuff
> > on
> >> > the dash. Especially while barreling down the Interstate at 80 . Now
> > just
> >> > "where" the extra set of eyeballs should go..........., I shall leave
up
> > to
> >> > the list!
> >> >
> >> > Rick Messenger
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> >> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:42 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> what to make of.
> >> >> 1 over priced
> >> >> 2 hope the warrenty never runs out
> >> >> 3 it will take you 3 yrs to read the owners manual
> >> >> 4 way too much electronics
> >> >> 5 on the plus leather heated seats
> >> >> 6 stereo system that make the ricer guys  cry.
> >> >>  7 it keeps the  other countries busy makeing parts and financially
> >> > stable.
> >> >>    thats what i make of it.
> >> >> ron
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> >> >> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:13 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >I confused the SRT, with Cadillac's new SRX yesterday, my
> >> >> > mistake........,momentary retardation on my part. Have any of you
> > seen
> >> > this
> >> >> > SRX thing Cadillac has made? I still don't quite know what to make
of
> >> > it.
> >> >> > Rick Messenger
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> >> >> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:18 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> stands for , Squirrel Ran Turbocharger.
> >> >> >> Ron
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> >> From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
> >> >> >> To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> >> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:45 AM
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > SRT is Dodge's "high" performance package, has been found on
such
> >> > things
> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > Dakotas and Neons........
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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