
oldsmobile-digest     Saturday, November 6 2004     Volume 01 : Number 5083



Re: East Coast Ryders
Re: East Coast Ryders
Seeking 64 D88/J88 parts
Re: Seeking 64 D88/J88 parts
Re: East Coast Ryders
Re: East Coast Ryders
Re: East Coast Ryders
Re: East Coast Ryders
69 Cutlass front bumper
425 Magnetic Oil Drain Plug?????
Re: East Coast Ryders
Re: East Coast Ryders
Re: East Coast Ryders
Re: 425 Magnetic Oil Drain Plug?????
dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)
RE: dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)
Re: dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)
Re: 425 Magnetic Oil Drain Plug?????

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:28:47 -0500
From: "Pat Swanton \"swanny\"" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

At least you don't need a jack to change your oil! Hell you could even 
probably pull a tranny with out a jack. :p

Another waste of a Cutlaii

Cheers
Pat Swanton
Winchester NH
1978 Cutlass Supreme
http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: East Coast Ryders


> I'm not even sure how to preface this one, but I thought everyone would 
> get
> a kick out of this:
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01667.htm
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01668.htm
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01669.htm
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01670.htm
>
> If you peruse the rest of the site you'll see many a "Cutlass, Monte 
> Carlo,
> and Regal, man" so the song goes...
>
> Let me save everyone the trouble:  "What's wrong with kids today?!" :)
>
> Rock on,
>
> ~ Dan
>
> -------------------------------------
> Daniel R. Gerow
> '70 W-31 4spd post
> dgerow@stonehill.edu
> http://www.oldsrocket.com
> ------------------------------------- 

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:36:07 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

I don't mind the car, but there's a few too many speakers, and I can't stand
the wheels for one second.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: East Coast Ryders


> I'm not even sure how to preface this one, but I thought everyone would
get
> a kick out of this:
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01667.htm
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01668.htm
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01669.htm
>
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01670.htm
>
> If you peruse the rest of the site you'll see many a "Cutlass, Monte
Carlo,
> and Regal, man" so the song goes...
>
> Let me save everyone the trouble:  "What's wrong with kids today?!" :)
>
> Rock on,
>
>  ~ Dan
>
> -------------------------------------
> Daniel R. Gerow
> '70 W-31 4spd post
> dgerow@stonehill.edu
> http://www.oldsrocket.com
> -------------------------------------
>

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:31:26 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Seeking 64 D88/J88 parts

Gotta be one out there SOMEWHERE

Man seeks REAR BUMPER, LR wheel opening trim
Mine is mangled AND rusty.

Car is the 4dr 1964 Jetstar 88, same bumper as Delta/ Delmont 88, must be 
1964 though.

This is the feller that sold me the '69 VC this week.
- -----------------------
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:50:26 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Seeking 64 D88/J88 parts

Chris,

> Car is the 4dr 1964 Jetstar 88, same bumper as Delta/ Delmont 88, must be
> 1964 though.


Deltas start in '65. For '64, the big car line-up is Starfire, Jetstar 1,
Jetstar 88, Dynamic 88, Super 88, and Ninety-Eight.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:56:33 -0800
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

Here is an old fart comment for you; " I can hear the thumpa, thumpa ,thump,
right through the picture on my computer" , and it makes me want to "spit
up". I hate the wheels, and the colors, other than that.............., not
too bad, the Buick is mighty nice.

Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders


> I don't mind the car, but there's a few too many speakers, and I can't
stand
> the wheels for one second.
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
> To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:47 PM
> Subject: East Coast Ryders
>
>
> > I'm not even sure how to preface this one, but I thought everyone would
> get
> > a kick out of this:
> >
> >
http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01667.htm
> >
> >
http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01668.htm
> >
> >
http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01669.htm
> >
> >
http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01670.htm
> >
> > If you peruse the rest of the site you'll see many a "Cutlass, Monte
> Carlo,
> > and Regal, man" so the song goes...
> >
> > Let me save everyone the trouble:  "What's wrong with kids today?!" :)
> >
> > Rock on,
> >
> >  ~ Dan
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> > Daniel R. Gerow
> > '70 W-31 4spd post
> > dgerow@stonehill.edu
> > http://www.oldsrocket.com
> > -------------------------------------
> >
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:26:37 -0500
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

Well.....It's NOT the way I would do my Cutty or want one done...BUT..at
least they are keeping the Cutty alive...you have to give them that!

 I have seen a couple running around Lansing,Michigan looking like this
one...well maybe not as "bright"....lol

Thanks for sharing

Tami

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:18:10 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

At 09:26 PM 11/5/2004 -0500, Tami wrote:
>Well.....It's NOT the way I would do my Cutty or want one done...BUT..at
>least they are keeping the Cutty alive...you have to give them that!


One might as well suggest that Rap is keeping music alive... LOL


Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:23:39 -0500
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

"One might as well suggest that Rap is keeping music alive... LOL"



Now Mark...I wouldnt go that far.....LOL

Tami

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:44:09 -0600
From: Mark Robson <msrobson@ens.net>
Subject: 69 Cutlass front bumper

My 69 Cutlass front bumper is bent.  No, I didn't do it.  It was that 
way when a got the car.  The body shop guy says that it looks like 
someone pulled it out of a ditch, as it is pulled out a bit.  He is 
unable to correct the problem (bend it back). 

I e-mailed Midwest Restoration Parts, they thought "to rechrome the 
bumper would be $250.00 that will cover most ding and dent removal."

Does anybody have any history with Midwest Restoration Parts?

Does $250 sound reasonable?

Any other thoughts?

Mark - 1969 Cutlass S Convertible

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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 04:59:50 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: 425 Magnetic Oil Drain Plug?????

So, I just acquired a 425 pan from one of our more illustrious members, and
it's got this humungous drain plug with the 8-point (octagon) wrench
"goes-into", see here:
http://members.dandy.net/~k0xp/Oldsmobile/425_Pan_Cleaned_Up-a.jpg

Problem is, it doesn't have a magnet on it. I want a magnet on my drain
plug. Does anybody happen to make one that'll fit these pans??? I don't
know what size that bung is yet, will take it out after the paint dries
tomorrow:
http://members.dandy.net/~k0xp/Oldsmobile/425_Pan_Painted-a.jpg

Thanks,
SteveH

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:12:21 -0800
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

Ya right..........., and I suppose that one day some one will compose a
Polka for the Ballet; Or liturgical Country music composed by Muzak.
Mark........, dude , you have had enough sun now. HA
Rick
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Mullins" <mark@marineaviation.org>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders


> At 09:26 PM 11/5/2004 -0500, Tami wrote:
> >Well.....It's NOT the way I would do my Cutty or want one done...BUT..at
> >least they are keeping the Cutty alive...you have to give them that!
>
>
> One might as well suggest that Rap is keeping music alive... LOL
>
>
> Mark Mullins
> Tucson, Az
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:56:16 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

that car is ugly.
he should put the drugs  and boom box away and strip car and fix what he has done
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders


> Here is an old fart comment for you; " I can hear the thumpa, thumpa ,thump,
> right through the picture on my computer" , and it makes me want to "spit
> up". I hate the wheels, and the colors, other than that.............., not
> too bad, the Buick is mighty nice.
> 
> Rick Messenger
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders
> 
> 
>> I don't mind the car, but there's a few too many speakers, and I can't
> stand
>> the wheels for one second.
>>
>> Milton Schick
>> 1964 442 Cutlass
>> imp@theriver.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
>> To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:47 PM
>> Subject: East Coast Ryders
>>
>>
>> > I'm not even sure how to preface this one, but I thought everyone would
>> get
>> > a kick out of this:
>> >
>> >
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01667.htm
>> >
>> >
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01668.htm
>> >
>> >
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01669.htm
>> >
>> >
> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01670.htm
>> >
>> > If you peruse the rest of the site you'll see many a "Cutlass, Monte
>> Carlo,
>> > and Regal, man" so the song goes...
>> >
>> > Let me save everyone the trouble:  "What's wrong with kids today?!" :)
>> >
>> > Rock on,
>> >
>> >  ~ Dan
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------
>> > Daniel R. Gerow
>> > '70 W-31 4spd post
>> > dgerow@stonehill.edu
>> > http://www.oldsrocket.com
>> > -------------------------------------
>> >
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:56:56 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders

good for running imports over
Ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Swanton "swanny"" <swannys78@adelphia.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: East Coast Ryders


> At least you don't need a jack to change your oil! Hell you could even 
> probably pull a tranny with out a jack. :p
> 
> Another waste of a Cutlaii
> 
> Cheers
> Pat Swanton
> Winchester NH
> 1978 Cutlass Supreme
> http://www.cardomain.com/id/swannys78
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
> To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:47 PM
> Subject: East Coast Ryders
> 
> 
>> I'm not even sure how to preface this one, but I thought everyone would 
>> get
>> a kick out of this:
>>
>> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01667.htm
>>
>> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01668.htm
>>
>> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01669.htm
>>
>> http://www.digitalwheels.net/ECR%20Images/gallery/Oct04/pages/DSC01670.htm
>>
>> If you peruse the rest of the site you'll see many a "Cutlass, Monte 
>> Carlo,
>> and Regal, man" so the song goes...
>>
>> Let me save everyone the trouble:  "What's wrong with kids today?!" :)
>>
>> Rock on,
>>
>> ~ Dan
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>> Daniel R. Gerow
>> '70 W-31 4spd post
>> dgerow@stonehill.edu
>> http://www.oldsrocket.com
>> ------------------------------------- 
> 
> 
>

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:08:05 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 425 Magnetic Oil Drain Plug?????

> So, I just acquired a 425 pan from one of our more illustrious members,
and
> it's got this humungous drain plug with the 8-point (octagon) wrench
> "goes-into", see here:
> http://members.dandy.net/~k0xp/Oldsmobile/425_Pan_Cleaned_Up-a.jpg
>
> Problem is, it doesn't have a magnet on it. I want a magnet on my drain
> plug. Does anybody happen to make one that'll fit these pans???

Should be regular 1/2" 20 thread.  Just about any parts store will
have a magnetic plug for it (even the crappy chain stores like Dead Zone,
Retard and Crap Quest).  

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 14:15:30 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)

Yeat another 2-engine HHO-esque car !?!?!

- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


>From: "CutlassS" <CutlassS@halun.com>
>To: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>Subject: eBay item 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST) - Oldsmobile  
>Toronado
>Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 12:04:28 -0500
>
>Chris check this is out!
>-harv
>
>  
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4501979523&category=31865

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:26:46 -0500
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)

Looks like a dream that turned into a nightmare, and sounds like the seller
realizes that it may be best just to part it out.

Why would 2 "brand new" 455s be bored .060 over? Sounds to me like they are
rebuilt. It doesn't look like a first-class job on any level.

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 15:36:47 EST
From: Tremendous442@aol.com
Subject: Re: dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)

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ignition. Real professional job there hey. The guy was an engineer? Hey, I am  
just a mere Journeyman Mechanic, but I feel confident I could do it better 
than  that. Of course, I would not start with that year Toro, a 66 or maybe a 67 
with  2 425's would be more like it. I would not be surprised if those engines 
are not  even rebuilt. Looks more like an aerosol overhaul to me  guys.

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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:15:26 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: 425 Magnetic Oil Drain Plug?????

At 11:08 AM 11/6/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>So, I just acquired a 425 pan from one of our more illustrious 
>>members, and it's got this humungous drain plug with the 8-point 
>>(octagon) wrench "goes-into", see here:
>>http://members.dandy.net/~k0xp/Oldsmobile/425_Pan_Cleaned_Up-a.jpg
>>
>>Problem is, it doesn't have a magnet on it. I want a magnet on my 
>>drain plug. Does anybody happen to make one that'll fit these pans???
>
>Should be regular 1/2" 20 thread.

I just measured it: it's 7/8" and a very fine thread, 20 TPI according to
the calipers.

>Just about any parts store will have a magnetic plug for it (even the 
>crappy chain stores like Dead Zone, Retard and Crap Quest).

I didn't try them, may do that tomorrow. I expect the local NAPA, which
also stocks lotsa truck parts, will likely have something. I dang near bent
up the pan, trying to break this thing loose with the 1/2" ratchet  ;o(((
It has a copper washer.

I had been thinking I could drill it out, and tap it for a standard 1/2"
type. Unfortunately, it's too thin on the inside surface to withstand being
tapped. If it could be filled with braze or weld, then that would work. A
ring magnet on the inside of the pan would work but I wouldn't be able to
clean it nor see what kinda stuff was clinging to it without dropping the
pan  ;o((((

Wonder what years 425s used this drain plug???

SteveH

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