
oldsmobile-digest      Friday, November 12 2004      Volume 01 : Number 5088



dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)
spark plug selection
R-12 replacement
Re: spark plug selection
Re: R-12 replacement
Convertible top in New Jersey
Re: R-12 replacement
frame located - thank you
Mr G. intake gasket
Re: Mr G. intake gasket
Re: Mr G. intake gasket
Re: Mr G. intake gasket
Re: frame located - thank you
Re: Mr G. intake gasket
Re: frame located - thank you
Re: Mr G. intake gasket
Seeking my Part Numbers Excel File
Re: frame located - thank you
Nigerian "too much money" scam...
Re: spark plug selection
Re: Nigerian "too much money" scam...
Re: Mr G. intake gasket

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:46:05 -0600
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: dual engine Toro - 4501979523 (Ends Nov-12-04 164847 PST)

OK, no more reading about  2 engine cars.  I went to 
see this one in person, just down the road from me.

Just like it says, its an 81 Toro with 188 MILES on the 
odometer.  To bad the interior wasn't covered, because 
its pretty dirty.  Might clean up, though.  

Basically the front frame from about a 70 Toro, complete 
with 455 engine, THM425 trans, and differential has 
replaced the rear frame of the 81.  The trunk area was 
gutted.  The rear was stretched 14" so that the rear seat 
would still be intact.  Adapter plates like my 79 Eldo connect 
81 style half shafts to the early differential.  There is no 
place for a rear set of torsion bars, so coil over shocks 
are used in back.  One set couldn't hold that weight, so 
a second set of springs is welded into the frame.  A lot 
of nice body work was done to put a big radiator under 
the trunk lid.  A heat exchanger visible in the rear will 
cool the rear transmssion using engine coolant.  Up 
front, the 5.0L was replaced with another 455.  

All this was pretty well engineered and executed.  The 
essentials are all in place.  But that's as far as it got.  
The project has been passed along for a couple dozen 
years, while the first couple people working it died.  
There is a HUGE amount of completion work before 
it could hit the street.  Each rear fender has a custom 
made gas tank needing mounting and plumbing.  The 
exhaust system is just temporary.  The engine 
accessories are a mess, no air cleaners.  No props 
to keep the hood or trunk open.  Throttle and shift 
linkage to rear engine missing, as is any wiring
and instruments.  Rear sway bar (was a front) not 
connected.  Back seat area is all apart.  Don't know 
about the brakes.  The front engine area needs work 
too, 81 emissions parts don't connect to a 455.  

So there you are.  A potentially blindingly fast 4 wheel 
drive car is looking for someone to make it work.  The 
455s are supposedly rebuilt, but no paperwork details.  
The lowest axle ratio available is a 2.73, which will 
red line it around 140 mph.  That could be raised with 
a POWER DRIVE 57:65 chain set in the trans like I 
use (for gas mileage).  Big time and bucks have been 
spent on it, but its future is uncertain.  I could imagine 
just converting it back to a front drive, BRAND NEW 81 
Toro (stretched for a far bigger trunk), but even that 
would no longer be easy.  

Maybe with a couple EFI 5.0L engines, the over drive 
transmissions, 2.2 ratio axles, and some nitrous, 
that car could still be very fast, have more top end, 
and could actually have affordable gas mileage.  
Hmmm.

Bruce Roe

> >From: "CutlassS" <CutlassS@halun.com>

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=45019
79523&category=31865 

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:47:37 -1000
From: "Chris Brown" <olds-supreme72@hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: spark plug selection

For those of you running performance engines, I currently have just finished
building a Olds 350 with the performer RPM power package and #7 heads, with
@10.1 compression and HEI.  I am having a problem finding the right plug to
run, due to either compression, or the load from the cam.  Does anyone have
any suggestions, what has anyone used for similar setups.

Thanks in Advance,
Chris Brown

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:37:03 -0800
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: R-12 replacement

Hi fella's:

              I have a question about aftermarket refrigerants. I was going
to buy some R-12 off of  E-bay to bolster my dwindling supply. I was taken
a-back, where- upon, wouldn't you know it, the mighty EPA has now made it
impossible for the "shade trees" to recharge our own air-conditioning
systems.I can no longer buy it off e-bay any more unless I can cough up the
proper certified license. I have been "shooting" my own cars up for years,
and now I can't.

             My question is; have any of you fellas ever used this stuff
called "Freeze 12", the R-12 replacement? They claim that it is more
efficient than R-12, and up to 30 % colder ; and is non-flammable. I know
that some people were shooting their car's up with some kind of propane gas,
which is not a great idea. I really do not care much for R-134a , but will
switch over if I have to. I was hoping that this "new" snake oil was the
answer. Thanks in advance.

Rick Messenger

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:48:27 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: spark plug selection

Autolite 73 or 74.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Brown" <olds-supreme72@hawaii.rr.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:47 PM
Subject: spark plug selection


> For those of you running performance engines, I currently have just
finished
> building a Olds 350 with the performer RPM power package and #7 heads,
with
> @10.1 compression and HEI.  I am having a problem finding the right plug
to
> run, due to either compression, or the load from the cam.  Does anyone
have
> any suggestions, what has anyone used for similar setups.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Chris Brown
>
>

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 06:20:13 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: R-12 replacement

At 10:37 PM 11/10/2004 -0800, Rick wrote:
>Hi fella's:
>
>               I have a question about aftermarket refrigerants. I was going
>to buy some R-12 off of  E-bay to bolster my dwindling supply. I was taken
>a-back, where- upon, wouldn't you know it, the mighty EPA has now made it
>impossible for the "shade trees" to recharge our own air-conditioning
>systems.I can no longer buy it off e-bay any more unless I can cough up the
>proper certified license. I have been "shooting" my own cars up for years,
>and now I can't.

See www.imaca.org .  Certification is easy and inexpensive.



>              My question is; have any of you fellas ever used this stuff
>called "Freeze 12", the R-12 replacement? They claim that it is more
>efficient than R-12, and up to 30 % colder ; and is non-flammable. I know
>that some people were shooting their car's up with some kind of propane gas,
>which is not a great idea. I really do not care much for R-134a , but will
>switch over if I have to. I was hoping that this "new" snake oil was the
>answer. Thanks in advance.


There is a sticker on my bmw which says it was converted to Freeze 
12.  I've had no need to check the system, as it does blow very cold air.


Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:36:30 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Convertible top in New Jersey

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The rear window seems to be separating from the canvas. It's time for a new  
top.
 
Two questions for my 71 Cutlass, please.
 
Who makes the best top?
 
Who does the best installation in NJ (or PA if necessary)
 
TIA,
 
 
Bruce
75  Delta 88 Conv. (duals, of course)
72 Cutlass Conv.
56 190 SL Conv.
92  Eldo

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:39:36 -0500
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: Re: R-12 replacement

Mark Mullins wrote:

> At 10:37 PM 11/10/2004 -0800, Rick wrote:
> 
>> Hi fella's:
>>
>>               I have a question about aftermarket refrigerants. I was 
>> going
>> to buy some R-12 off of  E-bay to bolster my dwindling supply. I was 
>> taken
>> a-back, where- upon, wouldn't you know it, the mighty EPA has now made it
>> impossible for the "shade trees" to recharge our own air-conditioning
>> systems.I can no longer buy it off e-bay any more unless I can cough 
>> up the
>> proper certified license. I have been "shooting" my own cars up for 
>> years,
>> and now I can't.
> 
> 
> See www.imaca.org .  Certification is easy and inexpensive.
> 
> 
> 
>>              My question is; have any of you fellas ever used this stuff
>> called "Freeze 12", the R-12 replacement? They claim that it is more
>> efficient than R-12, and up to 30 % colder ; and is non-flammable. I know
>> that some people were shooting their car's up with some kind of 
>> propane gas,
>> which is not a great idea. I really do not care much for R-134a , but 
>> will
>> switch over if I have to. I was hoping that this "new" snake oil was the
>> answer. Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> There is a sticker on my bmw which says it was converted to Freeze 12.  
> I've had no need to check the system, as it does blow very cold air.
> 
> 
> Mark Mullins
> Tucson, Az
> 
> 
> 
> 
Hi
   I have used freeze 12. Its what is in my 80 toro. Works just fine but 
you have to be certifed to buy it too. I have been told it will mix with 
R-12 I have not tried that and probably won't
LOL
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:43:53 -0500
From: "Gerow, Daniel R." <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
Subject: frame located - thank you

To all those who rallied to help locate or provide a frame for my friend's
Chevelle project, thank you.
We were able to find one locally for cheap ($100!!).

Thanks again,

 ~ Dan

- -------------------------------------
Daniel R. Gerow
'70 W-31 4spd post
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.oldsrocket.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:07:59 -0800
From: Kevin & Casey Olund <kcolund@shaw.ca>
Subject: Mr G. intake gasket

Sorry to beet a dead horse here.

I'm about to put the Mr G. composition gasket on my olds. I drive the car daily and it is getting close to freezing up
here in the AM. Should I drill or cut holes in the gasket for the exhaust cross-over?

Also, what about the turkey tray....some say cut it and use it for an oil baffle. What is the preferred method of those
of you who have done the job?

Kevin

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:25:45 -0500
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: Mr G. intake gasket

   don't worry about it, it will burn through in a few months anyway...
john
67 cutlass supreme 4-speed

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:58:10 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Mr G. intake gasket

> I'm about to put the Mr G. composition gasket on my olds. I drive the car
daily and it is getting close to freezing up
> here in the AM. Should I drill or cut holes in the gasket for the exhaust
cross-over?


With a basically stock engine and living in a cold winter state, I'd open up
the gasket for the exhaust crossover. It's probably wiser in the long run.


> Also, what about the turkey tray....some say cut it and use it for an oil
baffle. What is the preferred method of those
> of you who have done the job?


I will never use the turkey tray, even on a bone stock engine. I use only
the Premium Ultra-Seal Mr. Gasket intake gasket, 5845 for a small block and
5846 for a big block. I throw away the rubber front and rear seals and use a
heavy bead of The Right Stuff to seal the front and rear of the intake
manifold.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:23:14 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: Mr G. intake gasket

At 02:58 PM 11/11/2004 -0700, Milton wrote:
>I will never use the turkey tray, even on a bone stock engine. I use only
>the Premium Ultra-Seal Mr. Gasket intake gasket, 5845 for a small block and
>5846 for a big block. I throw away the rubber front and rear seals and use a
>heavy bead of The Right Stuff to seal the front and rear of the intake
>manifold.

Since you're throwing away the rubber seals, wouldn't these gaskets be 
interchangeable?


Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:35:24 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: frame located - thank you

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Anyone got a 62 Starfire convert  frame????
 
Rev.Vincent Buonfiglio
Pillars of Faith Tabernacle,  Pastor;
Victorious Overcomers Support Group
Substance Abuse Program,  President and Director
_1-800-DRUGWAR_ (http://victoriousovercomers.net/) 

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:51:43 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Mr G. intake gasket

> Since you're throwing away the rubber seals, wouldn't these gaskets be
> interchangeable?


Except the big block heads have much bigger intake ports than the small
block heads. Putting on the wrong gasket could cause a small problem.

That's why Olds racers in '68 to '75 usually used "C" big block heads on
their 330-350 small blocks, as long as the rules allowed the head swap. Don
Mann's 330 with C heads in a '65 Club Coupe redlined at 8500, and he shifted
his 4-speed at 8000. The engine was making close to 2 HP per cubic inch on
gasoline. That was 1972. Traction was limited by '70s tire technology.
Still, the 330 ran a flat 10 seconds.

I'm thinking C heads should be used on 403s.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:01:11 -0500
From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: frame located - thank you

> Anyone got a 62 Starfire convert  frame????

Vinny,

Note that the Starfire was based on the 88.  Expand your search to include
88s.  I'd also wager that '61-'64 would all interchange as the wheelbase was
the same and the year to year changes were largely body and interior.

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:23:10 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Mr G. intake gasket

At 04:51 PM 11/11/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm thinking C heads should be used on 403s.

Other than the obvious loss of compression (looks like over a point, only
part of which can be made up with thinner head gaskets and shaving them;
and the head bolt holes have to be enlarged to 1/2"), I wonder what C's
would do on a 307....  ===============8-O The valves would be horribly
shrouded, if they'll even go into the bore at all. Damb  ;o(((((((((
Hmmm.... 1.995 + 1.625 = 3.62", not including the spacing between them.
Bore of a 307 is 3.80" compared to 3.938" for a 330 ;o((((((

But IF..........

The worst part is it'd really kill what little torque the little 307
already has. You'd only gain with breathing capability for high rpm and
with the windowed main webs of a 307, it'd be a crap shoot whether you'd
even get to find out just what the thing could do before the bottom end
exploded  ;o((((

Steve <and if pigs had wings...> H

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:34:00 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Seeking my Part Numbers Excel File

*sigh*

apparently my computer has EATEN my Parts Numbers file

Most recent verssion I have is dated 9/22/04 mod, up to 344 lines [Lifters, 
0.921 dia]

If any of you obtained that file when I offered it up, have it with more 
recent date, I would appreciate a copy.

If anyone can detail how to recover "missing" files on Winders XP, that'd be 
great.

I tried recovery of SpyBot searches, no luck
Tried looking in [my] recycle bin, not emptied lately, no luck

Tried full cpmputer search for the file name, and all .xls's in the last 
month, no luck

Next I try other users' trash cans I guess.

*sigh*

I was just about to back up again, too, 'cause I put a LOT of stuff like 
carb #'s and Dist'r #'s into it.

This sux.
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Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:00:04 EST
From: HURSTOLDZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: frame located - thank you

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Thanks Fred!
 
We have been  looking for 88/starfire  frames  
 
Not sure if any other GM frame will interchange
 
Rev.Vincent Buonfiglio
Pillars of Faith Tabernacle,  Pastor;
Victorious Overcomers Support Group
Substance Abuse Program,  President and Director
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:14:02 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Nigerian "too much money" scam...

Are you considering doing this? Boy, I would cover my 6 in every way
possible, and some of the impossible ways.
=====================
What??
What can possibly go wrong with a CASHIER's CHECK?!

:-)

www.scamvictimsUnited.com

Western Union, oh, sure, that's what they want ME to use to ship THEM the 
"extra" money back.

No ck here yet.

$2000 for a crankshaft? Where do they even get this stuff? They are not even 
paying attention to the individual scams anymore, the details are lost on 
them.

Oh, yeah, it's a "44*3*" crankshaft!!!!

- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:24:35 -0500
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: spark plug selection

r45s a/c delco  plugs
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Brown" <olds-supreme72@hawaii.rr.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:47 AM
Subject: spark plug selection


> For those of you running performance engines, I currently have just finished
> building a Olds 350 with the performer RPM power package and #7 heads, with
> @10.1 compression and HEI.  I am having a problem finding the right plug to
> run, due to either compression, or the load from the cam.  Does anyone have
> any suggestions, what has anyone used for similar setups.
> 
> Thanks in Advance,
> Chris Brown
> 
>

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:58:01 -0800
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Nigerian "too much money" scam...

If you actually get a cashiers check, and the bank excepts it, don't send
anything off until it clears. There was quite the "cashiers check" fraud
scam going on over here. These new photo copiers, and computer printing
programs are quite something now days. To bad you couldn't send them a nice
virus if it is a scam.
I am sure you know this all ready........., still, it pays to be careful.
Rick
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:14 PM
Subject: Nigerian "too much money" scam...


> Are you considering doing this? Boy, I would cover my 6 in every way
> possible, and some of the impossible ways.
> =====================
> What??
> What can possibly go wrong with a CASHIER's CHECK?!
>
> :-)
>
> www.scamvictimsUnited.com
>
> Western Union, oh, sure, that's what they want ME to use to ship THEM the
> "extra" money back.
>
> No ck here yet.
>
> $2000 for a crankshaft? Where do they even get this stuff? They are not
even
> paying attention to the individual scams anymore, the details are lost on
> them.
>
> Oh, yeah, it's a "44*3*" crankshaft!!!!
>
> -----------------------
> Chris Witt
> 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> Lansing MI 48911
>
> RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>
> Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
> Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:41:32 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Mr G. intake gasket

> >I'm thinking C heads should be used on 403s.
>
> Other than the obvious loss of compression (looks like over a point, only
> part of which can be made up with thinner head gaskets and shaving them;
> and the head bolt holes have to be enlarged to 1/2"),


The head bolt hole enlarging is no problem. Obviously, custom pistons are
required. However, CCs for C heads are nominally 80 and CCs for 4A or 4B 403
heads are 83. The 307 is the one with the problem at 64 or 67 CCs. The 330
heads were only 60 CCs, and Don did some very custom work with a piston
manufacture for his race engine. That's where I first learned the
ins-and-outs of piston design and rearranging combustion chambers,
compression heights, and piston top profiles to get what one wants.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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