
oldsmobile-digest    Wednesday, November 10 2004    Volume 01 : Number 5087



RE: Misc 70 Cutlass issues
RE:: 69 Cutlass front bumper
Boston Auto Show
Re: Boston Auto Show
Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged
RE: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged
Water Pump, diagnostics 101
RE: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged
Re: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged
vehicle addition - its a truck so non-olds of course...
RE: Misc 70 Cutlass issues
Re: vehicle addition - its a truck so non-olds of course...
Re: vehicle addition - its a truck so non-olds of course...
UNBOUNCE: '74 Olds Omega
UNBOUNCE: 1966 Starfire
Re: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFTOlds 330 Forged
RE: Response to your question for item #4502660932 - GTO CARB RARE

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 18:07:29 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: RE: Misc 70 Cutlass issues

> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:51:01 -0500
> From: "David Popadic" <davepopadic@core.com>
> Subject: Misc 70 Cutlass issues
> 
> 
> 2) Can anyone email me the following - the wiring diagrams 
> for the dash, interior, and front end including engine.

Here's a link to some wiring diagrams:

http://www.oldspower.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11914

They are for a '71, but they should be fairly close to the '70 model.

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:09:06 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: RE:: 69 Cutlass front bumper

Don't know where you are located, but I had lots of stuff done by Paul's 
Chrome Plating in Mars, PA while I lived in Ohio.  I hear they are still 
around and doing a good job for the $$.

Joe Varley
     AZ

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:09:10 -0500
From: "Daniel R. Gerow" <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
Subject: Boston Auto Show

Yo,

Took an impromptu trip to the Boston Auto show this evening and returned 
with some pictures for your enjoyment:

http://megatron.stonehill.edu/images/bostonautoshow04/

Gotta say, the Chevy SSR still gives me goosebumps, minus the chinsey "GM 
Grade" interior.  Caddy XLR was cool too, but again with the interior.  I 
think the Infiniti GS coupe has the most comfy seats of any car on the road. 
The Nomad concept made an appearance, which was interesting.  Oh, and if 
anyone wants to buy me a Mercedes Benz CL55 AMG for Christmas, well, that 
would be pretty cool and I'd say your all right in my book! :)

Enjoy,

 ~ Dan

PS - As before, server is limited to 10 connections, so be patient if ya 
can't get there.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Daniel R. Gerow
'70 W-31 Post 4spd
dgerow@stonehill.edu
http://www.oldsrocket.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:45:21 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Boston Auto Show

Nice cars, but way out of my price range. I'll have to stay with my old Olds
iron.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel R. Gerow" <dgerow@stonehill.edu>
To: "Olds List" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: Boston Auto Show


> Yo,
>
> Took an impromptu trip to the Boston Auto show this evening and returned
> with some pictures for your enjoyment:
>
> http://megatron.stonehill.edu/images/bostonautoshow04/
>
> Gotta say, the Chevy SSR still gives me goosebumps, minus the chinsey "GM
> Grade" interior.  Caddy XLR was cool too, but again with the interior.  I
> think the Infiniti GS coupe has the most comfy seats of any car on the
road.
> The Nomad concept made an appearance, which was interesting.  Oh, and if
> anyone wants to buy me a Mercedes Benz CL55 AMG for Christmas, well, that
> would be pretty cool and I'd say your all right in my book! :)
>
> Enjoy,
>
>  ~ Dan
>
> PS - As before, server is limited to 10 connections, so be patient if ya
> can't get there.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Daniel R. Gerow
> '70 W-31 Post 4spd
> dgerow@stonehill.edu
> http://www.oldsrocket.com
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:59:17 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged

>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>To: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
>CC: RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>Subject: Payment for #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged Date: Wed, 10 
>Nov 2004 09:55:47 -0500
>
>from: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
>
>hello seller,
>
>                    thanks a lot for the quick reply so get back to me 
>witgh ur contact name address and all ur full detail to send you the cheque 
>as soon as possible and ik will like to imform you that i will send you an 
>sum of $5,000.00 and as soon as u rceeive the cheque in hand i want u to go 
>to any nearest casshing point and cash the money remove $2,000.00 and wire 
>me the remaining $3,000.00 so  send me ur full info imm...........
>===================
>nO PROBLEM!
>Please send the money ASAP, it is urgently needed.
>Can you overnight express the money?
>Others also want to buy htis item, I am turning down several offers each 
>day!
>
>Oh, the payment MUST be a certified bank check, to ensure that it is good!
>-----------------------
>Chris Witt
>1303 W. Miller Rd.
>Lansing MI 48911
>
>RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>
>Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
>Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:07:33 -0500
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged

Take this SOB for a ride and a half and keep us posted.  These jerks need to 
be led on a wild goose chase, just to waste their time.



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser




>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT 
>Olds 330 Forged
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:59:17 -0500
>
>>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>>To: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
>>CC: RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>>Subject: Payment for #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged Date: Wed, 
>>10 Nov 2004 09:55:47 -0500
>>
>>from: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
>>
>>hello seller,
>>
>>                    thanks a lot for the quick reply so get back to me 
>>witgh ur contact name address and all ur full detail to send you the 
>>cheque as soon as possible and ik will like to imform you that i will send 
>>you an sum of $5,000.00 and as soon as u rceeive the cheque in hand i want 
>>u to go to any nearest casshing point and cash the money remove $2,000.00 
>>and wire me the remaining $3,000.00 so  send me ur full info 
>>imm...........
>>===================
>>nO PROBLEM!
>>Please send the money ASAP, it is urgently needed.
>>Can you overnight express the money?
>>Others also want to buy htis item, I am turning down several offers each 
>>day!
>>
>>Oh, the payment MUST be a certified bank check, to ensure that it is good!
>>-----------------------
>>Chris Witt
>>1303 W. Miller Rd.
>>Lansing MI 48911
>>
>>RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>>
>>Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
>>Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
>>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:56:36 -0800
From: "John Holt sr" <johnlholtsr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Water Pump, diagnostics 101

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>
<P>I believe there should also be a fan relay switch, usually located on the firewall or fender well, or radiator core support. The coolant sensor should tell the relay when to signal the fan to come on. Here is a test you can perform yourself with a voltmeter or an idiot light, You can check the fan by running a 10gauge wire direct from 12 v source to non black wire connection on fan motor, you can disconnect the wire connection at the . Fan should come on, if not, you can probe the wire(stick sharp point into wire carefully, trying not to&nbsp;damage wire)&nbsp;from the sensor to the relay with an idiot light, (has a sharp point like a screwdriver with a light in the handle and a ground wire that needs to be grounded),, if when engine reaches operating temp, you dont get 12v to the relay, I believe you have a bad sensor, if you do have 12v coming to relay, then measure the wire coming out of relay going to fan motor, same thing, if you have 12v going in, but none coming out of the relay, then relay is suspect,,, </P>
<P>If anyone sees an error in this, by all means speak up,,,</P>
<P>relays usually cost 10-15$, sensor usually a little more, like 20$.</P>
<P>hope this helps...</P>
<P>Let us know what you find out , ok?</P>
<P><BR>John </P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV></div></html>

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:16:25 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: RE: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged

Lot of time spent, though, and almost certainly nothing (either legally or
monetarily in Chris' favor) will come from it.

Not that I don't approve, I just wonder who's wasting whose time.

At 11:07 AM 11/10/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Take this SOB for a ride and a half and keep us posted.  These jerks need to 
>be led on a wild goose chase, just to waste their time.
>
>
>
>Dave Wyatt
>70  4-4-2
>67 Vista Cruiser
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>>Subject: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT 
>>Olds 330 Forged
>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:59:17 -0500
>>
>>>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>>>To: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
>>>CC: RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>>>Subject: Payment for #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged Date: Wed, 
>>>10 Nov 2004 09:55:47 -0500
>>>
>>>from: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
>>>
>>>hello seller,
>>>
>>>                    thanks a lot for the quick reply so get back to me 
>>>witgh ur contact name address and all ur full detail to send you the 
>>>cheque as soon as possible and ik will like to imform you that i will send 
>>>you an sum of $5,000.00 and as soon as u rceeive the cheque in hand i want 
>>>u to go to any nearest casshing point and cash the money remove $2,000.00 
>>>and wire me the remaining $3,000.00 so  send me ur full info 
>>>imm...........
>>>===================
>>>nO PROBLEM!
>>>Please send the money ASAP, it is urgently needed.
>>>Can you overnight express the money?
>>>Others also want to buy htis item, I am turning down several offers each 
>>>day!
>>>
>>>Oh, the payment MUST be a certified bank check, to ensure that it is good!
>>>-----------------------
>>>Chris Witt
>>>1303 W. Miller Rd.
>>>Lansing MI 48911
>>>
>>>RocketScience442@hotmail.com
>>>
>>>Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
>>>Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:27:36 -0500
From: <1979hurstolds@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged

Gee Chris... these guys like you for some reason!  Give 'em hell.

Maybe tell 'em there is not Western Union anywhere near you live... but you
are willing to send a check back to them but you need their address :-)
Then get out the ol' printer and print a really fake looking check... like
with a 3 digit account number or something ;-)  Then after sending it to
them if they reply saying anything about the fake check you'll know it was a
good address so you can contact the authorities in their country with that.

Or maybe its the ultra rare "TWO PIECE" shaft :-) that um... twists together
in the center ;-)
and so since it must be mailed buried within several feet of jewlers rouge
(of course) your shipping price was actually larger than the difference in
their check :-)

Just thoughts.

Later...
Clayton

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:34:06 -0500
From: <1979hurstolds@earthlink.net>
Subject: vehicle addition - its a truck so non-olds of course...

Howdy Gang...

 Just bought this thing the day before yesterday... couldn't resist...
would'a been a deal at twice the price.
http://www.442spot.com/cpierce/misc/78f250/78f250.html

Its a 1978 F-brand F250 Explorer 3/4 ton with a Stahl Utility bed.  P.O. is
unfortunately in a nursing home now (couldn't even remember owning it from
the sound of it) but I bought it from his brother who was happy to see it go
to someone who'll use it.  Lets see... big block... auto... its an A/C
truck... ps, pb, dual tanks (good thing cuz its a gas guzzler), solid and
pretty straight except for the passenger side fender (but I have a spare)
and some of the diamond plate in the central portion of the bed (very easily
replaced).  Also has a cracked winshield but got a brand new one with the
parts.  Its been several years since its been driven regularly... but has
still had a good 100 to 200 miles put on it in the last two years.  I drove
it around about 3 hours yesterday and it never missed a beat but could use a
tune up... and definately needs some exhaust work.  I paid 300 for the truck
and another bill for more spare parts than I'll probably ever need like two
sets of fenders... 3!! sets of inner fenders... probably three or four core
supports... wheels... rotors... alternators... ps pumps... several good
radiators... nice bumpers... several of every piece of trim & door panels
etc. etc. etc. (the side compartments are full of parts as well as the bed
too) all right out of dry storage.  Should be much easier to haul around
OLDSMOBILE parts in than my Ranger is ;-)

 Anways... back to the world of Oldsmobiles...

 Later Gang...
Clayton Pierce
1979hurstolds@earthlink.net

 1969 Cutlass S Holiday Coupe
1979 Hurst/Oldsmobile W30 (white/gold)
1984 Cutlass Calais (T-tops)
1985 Delta 88 Royale Brougham Coupe

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:02:24 -0800 (PST)
From: John Pajak <ransomeliolds@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Misc 70 Cutlass issues

Here's a link to some wiring diagrams:

http://www.oldspower.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11914

They are for a '71, but they should be fairly close
to the '70 model.

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

****************
Be careful. GM changed a few of the wire assignments
at the firewall connection between the different model
years! 


=====
John Pajak

http://jspajak.tripod.com


		
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Do you Yahoo!? 
Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. 
www.yahoo.com 
 

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:05:33 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: vehicle addition - its a truck so non-olds of course...

At 12:34 PM 11/10/2004, you wrote:
>Howdy Gang...
>
>  Just bought this thing the day before yesterday... couldn't resist...
>would'a been a deal at twice the price.
>http://www.442spot.com/cpierce/misc/78f250/78f250.html
>
>Its a 1978 F-brand F250 Explorer 3/4 ton with a Stahl Utility bed.

MAN, that's one UGLY truck!

I love it! :)

I picked up an F-250 for hauling stuff around; paid twice as much as you 
paid for yours, but mine's a '97 and a small-block. It will make 
parts-acquisition incredibly easy from now on for you... :)


_______________________________________
Bob Barry  MailTo:rbarry@providence.edu
http://home.off-road.com/~wagoneer/ 

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:06:53 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: vehicle addition - its a truck so non-olds of course...

BTW, I've found the following to be an excellent resource for keeping my 
Ford going:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php




_______________________________________
Bob Barry  MailTo:rbarry@providence.edu
http://home.off-road.com/~wagoneer/ 

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:16:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '74 Olds Omega

Not on the list, respond to everflowingevil@yahoo.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:   al azif <everflowingevil@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1974 Olds Omega

Hi there,
 
I hope I'm sending to the right person. I just bought a 74 Olds Omega in
great shape (brown) with 71K orig miles and a rocket 350 engine. I wanted
to confirm if this car would make a good muscle car fixer upper. I don't
know much about it and thought it would be cool to fix up a car that's
more unknown on the streets. Any help would be greatly appreciated. It has
a single exhaust and my first mission will be to put on a dual exhaust if
possible. I guess in cars anything is possible. I hope to hear from you
soon with any helpful tips or information and thank you very much!! 
 
Frank.

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:17:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 1966 Starfire

Not on the list, respond to dyadon@ttaiky.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: 1966 Oldsmobile Starfire
From:   "David Yadon \(TTAI\)" <dyadon@ttaiky.com>

I bought one of these from my uncle. He was the second owner,he
purchased in 1985(?) from an older lady. It had 29000 miles on it and
now has @200000. To the best of my knowledge the only thing ever done to
the engine was valve cover gaskets, fuel pump, and general tune-up. It
has the 425ci. (super rocket I think) and Turbo 400 trans. The body is
in VERY good shape for a 40 year old car. My question is: is this
vehicle worth anything at all? I've been asking $2000 and can't even get
an offer on it. Thanks for your time.

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:13:23 -0800
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFTOlds 330 Forged

I second Dave's motion! All in favor say...................,

Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 -
CRANKSHAFTOlds 330 Forged


> Take this SOB for a ride and a half and keep us posted.  These jerks need
to
> be led on a wild goose chase, just to waste their time.
>
>
>
> Dave Wyatt
> 70  4-4-2
> 67 Vista Cruiser
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> >To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> >Subject: Wheee! I got $2000 for a 330 crank!!! #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT
> >Olds 330 Forged
> >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:59:17 -0500
> >
> >>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
> >>To: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
> >>CC: RocketScience442@hotmail.com
> >>Subject: Payment for #4500958084 - CRANKSHAFT Olds 330 Forged Date: Wed,
> >>10 Nov 2004 09:55:47 -0500
> >>
> >>from: carpart_intmotor1@doramail.com
> >>
> >>hello seller,
> >>
> >>                    thanks a lot for the quick reply so get back to me
> >>witgh ur contact name address and all ur full detail to send you the
> >>cheque as soon as possible and ik will like to imform you that i will
send
> >>you an sum of $5,000.00 and as soon as u rceeive the cheque in hand i
want
> >>u to go to any nearest casshing point and cash the money remove
$2,000.00
> >>and wire me the remaining $3,000.00 so  send me ur full info
> >>imm...........
> >>===================
> >>nO PROBLEM!
> >>Please send the money ASAP, it is urgently needed.
> >>Can you overnight express the money?
> >>Others also want to buy htis item, I am turning down several offers each
> >>day!
> >>
> >>Oh, the payment MUST be a certified bank check, to ensure that it is
good!
> >>-----------------------
> >>Chris Witt
> >>1303 W. Miller Rd.
> >>Lansing MI 48911
> >>
> >>RocketScience442@hotmail.com
> >>
> >>Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
> >>Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:13:42 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Response to your question for item #4502660932 - GTO CARB RARE

"REALLY rare for a GTO, considering that Olds used '250's numbers and 
Pontiac
used '260's and '270's..."

your books dont speak over experience.
==============
Say what??
You DARE to queston *the* Rocket Scientist?!
You useless insolent cur!

Son, that is not JUST book learning...
That IS experience, many years of it, too.

No Pontiac ever got a '25x carb from the factory.

If you choose not to correctly advertise your carb, fine, be that way. But 
don't you even dare try to "correct" me on Oldsmobile numbers and 
applications. I *wrote* the book, sir. For more gory details, please visit 
the FAQ files via www.442.com- not error-free, but dang sight better than 
pure BS.

Here's a link to pretty accurate carbs' applications info:

http://www.blake.com/oemcarbs/olds.htm

Which a simple Google search on the Ultra rare 7028254 carb always finds.

Glad I could be of assistance.
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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