
oldsmobile-digest      Monday, October 25 2004      Volume 01 : Number 5070



425 V8 Blolws Oil Out of Filler Tube
RE: convertible Pump House Routing, 1970
Re: 1970 C/S Ragtop Wiper to Firewall Question
Re: 425 V8 Blolws Oil Out of Filler Tube
Re: Picture Links & Info: Weird Holley Carbs
Re: Picture Links & Info: Weird Holley Carbs
SWP THM400
1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings
Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings
425 V8 Blows Oil Out of Filler Tube
Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings
Re: Yoko or Kumho?
Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings
Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings
M-22, or no?
Re: M-22, or no?
Re: M-22, or no?

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:59:21 +0000
From: Oldscarguy@comcast.net
Subject: 425 V8 Blolws Oil Out of Filler Tube

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My 1966 Olds 98 has recently developed a problem where the engine pumps oil out through the breather cap on the oil filler tube.  It first occurred as I was driving on the highway from Texas to Kansas.  It does not loose much at first, but once the engine is warm, it comes out at a greater rate.  The engine was rebuilt about 16000 miles ago.  There are no leaking gaskets.  The PCV valve is not stuck and it pulls good vacuum.  The breather cap on the passenger side valve cover is not plugged.  I tested the compression to check for blow-by, but all cylinders seem good between 120-135 psi.  Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this to happen?

Thanks,
Tim Bender
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<DIV>My 1966 Olds 98 has recently developed a problem where the engine pumps oil out&nbsp;through the&nbsp;breather cap on the oil filler tube.&nbsp; It first occurred as I was driving on the highway from Texas to Kansas.&nbsp; It does not loose much at first, but once the engine is warm, it comes out at a greater rate.&nbsp; The engine was rebuilt about 16000 miles ago.&nbsp; There are no leaking gaskets.&nbsp; The PCV valve is not stuck and it pulls good vacuum.&nbsp; The breather cap on the passenger side valve cover is not plugged.&nbsp; I&nbsp;tested the compression to check for blow-by, but all cylinders seem good between 120-135 psi.&nbsp; Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this to happen?</DIV>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:20:31 -0400
From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
Subject: RE: convertible Pump House Routing, 1970

I am about to attach the motor & pump to the body today, and was 
wanting to know if it matters which hoses should go from the bottom of the 
pump to the bottom of the Ragtop Frame pump pistons/cylinders?

***The flexible hose are each different sizes, so the question lies being 
does it matter to which port on the hydraulic motor the lines are connected?

- -------------------------------------------
Only if you want the top's motion to match the engraving on the
switch............

Jim
69 442 conv
I'll be glad when I get to sh*t which hose where......

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:01:02 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 1970 C/S Ragtop Wiper to Firewall Question

Steve,

> QUESTION>>  There is a large DIA copper ground TAB/STRAP going from the
> motor down to one of the anchor points.  Should I be putting an internal
or
> external toothed washer on this one bolt to make use of the wiper's ground
> strap?
> I don't recall how this went together.


I looked on the '65 Vista Cruiser that has a dual speed wiper and a washer
on top the wiper motor. The ground strap "appears" to be under the top half
of that grommet. I also looked in the '65 shop manual. I'm guessing the
center metal portion of the grommet makes contact with the ground strap, the
head of the bolt makes contact with the center metal portion, and the bolt
threads make contact with the body. There is no lock washer of any kind
against the strap. Is this the same as your '70?

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:11:17 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 425 V8 Blolws Oil Out of Filler Tube

Tim,

> My 1966 Olds 98 has recently developed a problem where the engine pumps
oil out through the breather cap on the oil filler tube.  It first occurred
as I was driving on the highway from Texas to Kansas.  It does not loose
much at first, but once the engine is warm, it comes out at a greater rate.
The engine was rebuilt about 16000 miles ago.  There are no leaking gaskets.
The PCV valve is not stuck and it pulls good vacuum.  The breather cap on
the passenger side valve cover is not plugged.  I tested the compression to
check for blow-by, but all cylinders seem good between 120-135 psi.  Does
anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this to happen?


You stated your engine was rebuilt 16K ago. Is this the first long trip
she's been on? The small baffle below the oil fill tube that prevents oil
from being whipped up toward the fill tube by the timing chain could have
been left out during engine assembly. If so, and this trip was the first
long one she's been on, accumulated oil being forced up against the oil fill
cap finally leaked out and the air stream from the grill/radiator/fan blew
it back on the engine. I've seen this happen just like that before. There
are 2 solutions. Replace the oil fill tube with one that uses a twist on cap
and use a solid, non-breathing oil cap. However, your present oil cap lets
fresh air into the crankcase. If that cap is replaced with a solid one, you
would have to provide fresh air from the other valve cover that doesn't have
a PCV valve. Pull the timing cover off and install the missing oil
deflection baffle.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:01:48 -0500
From: Brian Toberman <BrianToberman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: Picture Links & Info: Weird Holley Carbs

Yes those are governors, the carbs are specifically built for medium 
duty truck engines, they're governed to max. at  between 2500 and 4000 
RPM depending on the engine and truck .


>Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:30:09 -0400
>From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
>Subject: Re: Picture Links & Info: Weird Holley Carbs
>
>Ken,
>
>Great find for that price!
>
>Are those items on the side of the carb governors of some kind?
>
>  
>

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:22:58 EDT
From: KS7RACING@aol.com
Subject: Re: Picture Links & Info: Weird Holley Carbs

In a message dated 10/24/04 9:05:01 PM Central Daylight Time, BrianToberman 
writes:
- -- Yes those are governors, the carbs are specifically built for medium duty 
truck engines, they're governed to max. at  between 2500 and 4000 RPM 
depending on the engine and truck . --

Hey, thanks for that info!  I looked at them in depth last night and saw some 
really interesting things they did.

I still thought it was odd that the primary system doesn't have idle 
adjusting screws like other Holleys do, but the secondary side does.  There's no 
provision for a power valve in the secondary metering block, it's part number 7115 
on all four.  My hopes are that I can do some slight modifications to these 
blocks and use them to convert 4160 carbs to 4150 carbs, and possibly use one on 
a double-pumper for a four-corner-idle conversion.  Chelsea's RX-7 has a 
small Holley on it (4160) and I want to be able to tune the secondaries with 
standard Holley jets.  With the float bowls that have the "quick change" provision 
on them I won't even have to remove the bowl!

The secondary vacuum actuator is odd, too.  It must be part of the governor 
as well, it has a provision to deactivate the vacuum diaphragm by venting the 
engine vacuum to the atmosphere.  It's a small vacuum diaphragm sitting just 
behind the secondary actuating diaphragm and it's connected to another vacuum 
diaphragm (that is connected to the primaries, surely another part of the 
governing system) by a small copper line.  The small vacuum diaphragm has a needle 
and seat in it like a Rochester-type carb, when this opens it allows the vacuum 
above the secondary diaphragm to be vented through a small filter.

I'm going to have to get something at the library dealing with industrial 
engines and see if I can find more info about these carbs.  Interesting!

Take Care,
SrA Ken Snyder
Kansas City, Kansas

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:38:45 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: SWP THM400

Some of those SWP trasmissions have no speedo 
output, but that can be fixed by using another case.  On 
the street, an electronic switch pitch controller really 
puts that SWP to work, maximizing performance, 
economy, and smoothness.  Bruce Roe

24 Oct 2004 Paul Kelleher <pjkell@earthlink.net> writes:
>  I would be interested in the Th400 and the switch pitch 
> converter.  

> Regards, Paul

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:39:55 -0400
From: Cutlass7276@netscape.net
Subject: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings

Hello
This is what you dont want yer pick me up screen ta look like...
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1100143113018_1024_006.jpg 
And this is where it came from,observe the melting peels coming out the ends...
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1097565154314_1024_001.jpg 
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1097313796444_1024_002.jpg 
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1099490926542_1024_003.jpg 
Her bottom end is fine...
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1099705777148_1024_004.jpg 
we figure one more pass on the strip  / street she may have siezed the cam :O,,,sure glad buddy convinced me to stop when we did....rule,listen too yer friends.
Although any damage is not fun$ i am happy to see most other parts are fine.
Olds content,the 72 Cutlass sure looks naked,
 http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1098856956383_1024_005.jpg plz hold off on the switching her back to a Olds block comments,cost of what i need to do is enough,i could not afford to not use the good parts i have already to do the times/speed i wanna do.
Good luck!
Randy H.
Maple Ridge B.C.
 http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1025497466346_takeOff.JPG 



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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:12:33 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen cam bearings that bad. I know, I must have
led a sheltered life. Is that a Buick engine? Do you have any idea what
caused the cam bearings to fail?

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Cutlass7276@netscape.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:39 PM
Subject: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings


> Hello
> This is what you dont want yer pick me up screen ta look like...
> http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1100143113018_1024_006.jpg
> And this is where it came from,observe the melting peels coming out the
ends...
> http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1097565154314_1024_001.jpg
> http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1097313796444_1024_002.jpg
> http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1099490926542_1024_003.jpg
> Her bottom end is fine...
> http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1099705777148_1024_004.jpg
> we figure one more pass on the strip  / street she may have siezed the cam
:O,,,sure glad buddy convinced me to stop when we did....rule,listen too yer
friends.
> Although any damage is not fun$ i am happy to see most other parts are
fine.
> Olds content,the 72 Cutlass sure looks naked,
>  http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1098856956383_1024_005.jpg
plz hold off on the switching her back to a Olds block comments,cost of what
i need to do is enough,i could not afford to not use the good parts i have
already to do the times/speed i wanna do.
> Good luck!
> Randy H.
> Maple Ridge B.C.
>  http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3596099/1025497466346_takeOff.JPG
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:47:20 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: 425 V8 Blows Oil Out of Filler Tube

Oil pumped into the rocker covers comes back down 
by gravity.  The return passages on some engines can 
easily be blocked.  I would take off the valve covers and 
check it out.

Bruce Roe

24 Oct 2004  Oldscarguy@comcast.net writes:
> My 1966 Olds 98 has recently developed a problem 
> where the engine pumps oil out through the breather 
> cap on the oil filler tube.  

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:50:17 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings

At 09:12 PM 10/24/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Wow, I don't think I've ever seen cam bearings that bad. I know, I 
>must have led a sheltered life. Is that a Buick engine? Do you have 
>any idea what caused the cam bearings to fail?

It's a B*ick 430. Probly has Moneydullah cam bearing oil restrictors  :oP
It had been losing oil pressure during the last season that Slick (Randy;
aka Wandy  ;o) had it running but wasn't knocking. We had thought it was
probly a worn timing cover, which is the cover for the oil pump of B*ick
engines. Apparently not.

SteveH

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:26:13 -0500
From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Yoko or Kumho?

Hey Paul, could you turn off the HTML in yer email?
Below is what  comes through on the Digest. At least lose the images, 
it all really clogs up the works.

krw
On Oct 22, 2004, at 6:22 AM, oldsmobile-digest wrote:

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Kevin Wright                                         
krwright@sbcglobal.net
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                             
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/70Olds.html

'71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans: 
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/71_cutlass.html

Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31! 
And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :)
...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be 
parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:15:45 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings

Does NAPA have a crank balancer installation tool?? Anybody have 
the PN? Will one of those used with Ch*bbies/Frods work? I was hoping 
to be able to sand down the inside of my 307 balancer so it'd slip 
on, at least with no more than gentle tapping. But can't even get 
it started over the crank yet. Will try heating the thing in the 
oven but am afraid that may just make it seize if I get it cockeyed.


Thanks,
SteveH



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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:01:38 -0400
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: 1/2 O.T.430 Peel away cam bearings

At 08:15 AM 10/25/2004, you wrote:
>Does NAPA have a crank balancer installation tool?? Anybody have
>the PN? Will one of those used with Ch*bbies/Frods work? I was hoping
>to be able to sand down the inside of my 307 balancer so it'd slip
>on, at least with no more than gentle tapping. But can't even get
>it started over the crank yet. Will try heating the thing in the
>oven but am afraid that may just make it seize if I get it cockeyed.

They won't have one specifically for the Olds, but if you can dig up the 
specs of the kits they have, you're looking for an installation-tool that 
has a 3/4"-NF thread adapter.

Or you can make your own from a section of 3/4"-NF all-thread. Not on hand 
at Home Depot, but a better fastener place should be able to get it for 
you. If you were local to me here in Providence, I'd let you borrow mine or 
give you a chunk of all-thread to make your own (I bought a couple feet of 
it, but you only need a section about 8" long).


_______________________________________
Bob Barry  MailTo:rbarry@providence.edu
http://home.off-road.com/~wagoneer/ 

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:56:19 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: M-22, or no?

John,
         First off I'm getting to the email reply late.....But I am getting
my '70 C/S's M-22 rebuilt by the guy who did the posi carrier and 3.73 ring
gear in my daily driver.  I'll let you know what the costs were all done &
said with.  But he quoted me $200-$250 in labor and that was to replace
'The Works'.  The only difference in cost was the amount of parts mine
requires.
         1 rebuild kit (Synchros only) W/Seals, Vs. another with more parts.

I'll let you know real soon, as I just dropped with the guy Friday and
he'll be tearing it apart this weekend, so I should have it back in 2 weeks
or so.

My M-22 is also a Driver's side/left speedometer cable W/2 Drain Plugs.

Steve Reed
'68 Cutlass
'70 Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
Austin, TX
=================
Interesting....
How do you know it's an M-22?
Not to doubt you, it's just that I have heard and heard and heard but never 
SEEN an M-22.
Beginning to sound like the SMW 403 block here. Except that some books 
actually show pics of the M-22.

Anyhow, how did you ascertain that your trans is "M-22" and not say M-21 for 
SURE?
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:31:28 EDT
From: TJPROD@aol.com
Subject: Re: M-22, or no?

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John,
First off I'm getting to the  email reply late.....But I am getting
my '70 C/S's M-22 rebuilt by the guy  who did the posi carrier and 3.73 ring
gear in my daily driver.  I'll  let you know what the costs were all done &
said with.  But he  quoted me $200-$250 in labor and that was to replace
'The Works'.  The  only difference in cost was the amount of parts mine
requires.
1 rebuild kit (Synchros only) W/Seals, Vs. another  with more parts.

I'll let you know real soon, as I just dropped with  the guy Friday and
he'll be tearing it apart this weekend, so I should have  it back in 2 weeks
or so.

My M-22 is also a Driver's side/left  speedometer cable W/2 Drain Plugs.

Steve Reed
'68 Cutlass
'70  Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
Austin,  TX
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How do you know it's an  M-22?
Not to doubt you, it's just that I have heard and heard and heard but  never=
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SURE?
- -----------------------
Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller  Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell  517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home  517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most  days

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  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1 rebuild kit (Synchros only) W/Seals, Vs. anot=
her=20
  with more parts.<BR><BR>I'll let you know real soon, as I just dropped wit=
h=20
  the guy Friday and<BR>he'll be tearing it apart this weekend, so I should=20=
have=20
  it back in 2 weeks<BR>or so.<BR><BR>My M-22 is also a Driver's side/left=20
  speedometer cable W/2 Drain Plugs.<BR><BR>Steve Reed<BR>'68 Cutlass<BR>'70=
=20
  Cutlass Supreme Ragtop<BR>Austin,=20
  TX<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Interesting..=
..<BR>How do you know it's an=20
  M-22?<BR>Not to doubt you, it's just that I have heard and heard and heard=
 but=20
  never <BR>SEEN an M-22.<BR>Beginning to sound like the SMW 403 block here.=
=20
  Except that some books <BR>actually show pics of the M-22.<BR><BR>Anyhow,=20=
how=20
  did you ascertain that your trans is "M-22" and not say M-21 for=20
  <BR>SURE?<BR>-----------------------<BR>Chris Witt<BR>1303 W. Miller=20
  Rd.<BR>Lansing MI 48911<BR><BR>RocketScience442@hotmail.com<BR><BR>Cell=20
  517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.<BR>Home=20
  517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most=20
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:37:48 EDT
From: TJPROD@aol.com
Subject: Re: M-22, or no?

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Let me correct my spelling
M-22 has straighter cut gears, it has 20 degree as opposed to 45  degree=20
angle of cut on gears
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In a message dated 10/25/2004 9:01:01 AM Central Daylight Time, =20
rocketscience442@hotmail.com writes:

John,
First off I'm getting to the  email reply late.....But I am getting
my '70 C/S's M-22 rebuilt by the guy  who did the posi carrier and 3.73 ring
gear in my daily driver.  I'll  let you know what the costs were all done &
said with.  But he  quoted me $200-$250 in labor and that was to replace
'The Works'.  The  only difference in cost was the amount of parts mine
requires.
1 rebuild kit (Synchros only) W/Seals, Vs. another  with more parts.

I'll let you know real soon, as I just dropped with  the guy Friday and
he'll be tearing it apart this weekend, so I should have  it back in 2 weeks
or so.

My M-22 is also a Driver's side/left  speedometer cable W/2 Drain Plugs.

Steve Reed
'68 Cutlass
'70  Cutlass Supreme Ragtop
Austin,  TX
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Interesting....
How do you know it's an  M-22?
Not to doubt you, it's just that I have heard and heard and heard but  never=
=20
SEEN an M-22.
Beginning to sound like the SMW 403 block here.  Except that some books=20
actually show pics of the M-22.

Anyhow, how  did you ascertain that your trans is "M-22" and not say M-21 fo=
r=20
=20
SURE?
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Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller  Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell  517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home  517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most  days

_________________________________________________________________
Is  your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee=AE =20
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<DIV>Let me correct my spelling</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/25/2004 9:01:01 AM Central Daylight Time,=20
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  size=3D2>John,<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; First off I'm getting=20=
to the=20
  email reply late.....But I am getting<BR>my '70 C/S's M-22 rebuilt by the=20=
guy=20
  who did the posi carrier and 3.73 ring<BR>gear in my daily driver.&nbsp; I=
'll=20
  let you know what the costs were all done &amp;<BR>said with.&nbsp; But he=
=20
  quoted me $200-$250 in labor and that was to replace<BR>'The Works'.&nbsp;=
 The=20
  only difference in cost was the amount of parts mine<BR>requires.<BR>&nbsp=
;=20
  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1 rebuild kit (Synchros only) W/Seals, Vs. anot=
her=20
  with more parts.<BR><BR>I'll let you know real soon, as I just dropped wit=
h=20
  the guy Friday and<BR>he'll be tearing it apart this weekend, so I should=20=
have=20
  it back in 2 weeks<BR>or so.<BR><BR>My M-22 is also a Driver's side/left=20
  speedometer cable W/2 Drain Plugs.<BR><BR>Steve Reed<BR>'68 Cutlass<BR>'70=
=20
  Cutlass Supreme Ragtop<BR>Austin,=20
  TX<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Interesting..=
..<BR>How do you know it's an=20
  M-22?<BR>Not to doubt you, it's just that I have heard and heard and heard=
 but=20
  never <BR>SEEN an M-22.<BR>Beginning to sound like the SMW 403 block here.=
=20
  Except that some books <BR>actually show pics of the M-22.<BR><BR>Anyhow,=20=
how=20
  did you ascertain that your trans is "M-22" and not say M-21 for=20
  <BR>SURE?<BR>-----------------------<BR>Chris Witt<BR>1303 W. Miller=20
  Rd.<BR>Lansing MI 48911<BR><BR>RocketScience442@hotmail.com<BR><BR>Cell=20
  517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.<BR>Home=20
  517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most=20
  days<BR><BR>______________________________________________________________=
___<BR>Is=20
  your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee=AE=20
  <BR>Security.=20
  http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963<BR><BR></FONT=
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