
oldsmobile-digest      Friday, October 29 2004      Volume 01 : Number 5076



Re: UNBOUNCE: '70 Cutlass S Tread
RE: 56 Olds Brake Drums?
Re: For those of you in AZ W/$$ to burn...
Wide Band o2 Sensor
SWP THM400
RE: 1970 cutlass 's' holiday coupe in Australia
Re: Wide Band o2 Sensor
RE: 56 Olds Brake Drums?
Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine
Re: 1970 cutlass 's' holiday coupe in Australia
Re: Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine
Re: Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine
RE: 56 Olds Brake Drums?
Re: Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine
FW: winning notification!!!!!
WTB: BBO headers, any size/condition, cheap, in the Northeast
Re: For those of you in AZ W/$$ to burn...
RE: Carb choices at high altitude
Re: FW: winning notification!!!!!
UNBOUNCE: '56 Super 88 Moldings Needed in Germany
Carb choices at high altitude

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:53:12 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: '70 Cutlass S Tread

At 12:34 AM 10/29/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>At 05:25 PM 10/28/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Unfortunately the wheels and tyres fitted are not legal in this 
>>>state. In order to make wheel and tyre modifications in WA I need 
>>>to know the factory front and rear wheel track (distance measured 
>>>across the vehicle from centre of tread to centre of tread) of this 
>>>car.
>>
>>
>>Can anyone here even comprehend a government that dictates what wheels 
>>and tires one can put on their car?

Come to think of it, our very own US DOT has innumerable rules and
regulations for vehicles to be sold here. We just don't notice them often
because we're acclimated to vehicles built to those specs.

SteveH

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:24:09 -0400
From: Cutlass7276@netscape.net
Subject: RE: 56 Olds Brake Drums?

Greg Tjosvold <tjosvold@polar7.com> wrote:

>I'm trying to track down front brake drums for my 1956 Holiday S88 HT as 
>mine have been ground too thin. I've tried Fusick and USA Parts Supply. 
>Anyone out there have any? Know where I can get them (aftermarket OK)?
>
>Anyone know what years/vehicles these same drums were used?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Nanook

>>>.
Hello 
How thin are the drums?
They can be turned smooth and over sized linings installed on your shoes,,,,you do still have your shoes?
"D.V. Aldos" on Fraser Street Van.(I think its at 18th ave) can do this for you.
Good luck!
Randy H.
Maple Ridge B.C.
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:49 -0700
From: Joe & Gloria Varley <carcouple@cox.net>
Subject: Re: For those of you in AZ W/$$ to burn...

Damn, I'm eliminated too.

Joe Varley
      AZ

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:21:27 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: Wide Band o2 Sensor

Gene, 

A gauge that can tell what ratio of air to fuel you engine is 
getting would be very useful, esp if it can respond to very 
fast changing situations.  Don't be deceived that the early 
(Narrow Band) oxygen sensors can do this over any wide 
range.  But the Wide Band OXygen sensor could.  

They are used most on fuel injection, where tuning is 
electronic.  But they work on carbs too.  

Some things like this have been available for kilobucks, 
to labs etc with the money.  But a dozen years ago some 
lower priced sensors came out, and several years ago 
the amateurs figured them out.  The electronics are not 
difficult, and now a lot of units are available for minimal 
hundreds, or build your own.  They use either the German 
or Japanese sensor.  

There are a lot of variations in different WB units.  Some 
have built in logging, some a digital interface to your PC 
laptop, some a digital display.  WIth 4 decades in 
electronics, I built a display that was highly intuitive 
and responsive to difficult changing situations (definitely 
NOT digital).  It has been quite well received by 
do-it-yourselfers, and I use it a lot.  Contact me for details.

Bruce Roe  bcroe@juno.com

28 Oct 2004  Gene Gatti <64f-85@comcast.net> writes:
> Hi Bruce,
>   Can you elaborate on your wideband o2 sensor? Enquiring 
> minds want to know!

> Gene
> 
> >I have built a lot of tools when the official one cost hundreds 
> >(or thousands, can you say wide band O2) of $.  

> > Bruce R

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:40:55 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: SWP THM400

I've been building these for my cars since 1986, and several 
extra get sold to others every year.  The documents are 
available to anyone interested.  You could build your own, 
but since I sell them near cost (this is a hobby, right?) and 
I get parts at quantity discounts, nearly everyone just gets 
one of mine.  Bruce Roe

28 Oct 2004  Paul Kelleher <pjkell@earthlink.net> writes:
> bcroe@juno.com wrote:
> 
> >On the street, an electronic switch pitch controller really 
> >puts that SWP to work, maximizing performance, 
> >economy, and smoothness.  Bruce Roe

> Bruce:
> Do you have a good source for the switch pitch controllers, 
> or do these represent the kind of challenges that you guys 
> who know your way around circuit boards take on?
> Paul Kelleher

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:27:36 -0400
From: "Daniel Burk" <dan@ws6transam.org>
Subject: RE: 1970 cutlass 's' holiday coupe in Australia

I spent two and a half wonderful years living in Central Australia, and left
that great country in March, 1990.

Back then we were running afoul of then-new legislation that regulated the
importation of American iron into the country. Australian government was
making it darned near impossible to comply with their rules by making us
re-engineer mirrors, convert to right-hand drive, re-engineer the headlamps
and the subsequent illumination patterns, and even retrofit amber turn
signal lamps onto classic cars like the '65 Mustang. All just to get the car
registered.

In addition, all firearms (including BB-guns) were to be officially
registered by the government.

When I started there, I was able to camp "outback" pretty much wherever and
whenever I wanted, but by late 1989, the BLM had begun fencing off huge
tracts of land, and shut down all off-roading in order to create a large
system of walking trails that were so thoughtfully created and maintained by
us motorcyclists. Nowdays, all of that land has been handed over to the
Australian Aboriginal people, who, from what I hear, now require all
non-aboriginal people to get specific permission to tresspass on that land,
by either vehicle or foot.

The country has since rounded up all firearms and taken them away from the
common folk.

We now find that the extent of governmental meddling in the Australian
people's lives is so rampant that a regular bloke in Western Australia can't
even register his car with the fitment of aftermarket wheels. I'll bet he
will even have to prove that the engine under the hood is ORIGINAL, or at
the very least does not exceed the original displacement or performance
characteristics. Lord help him if someone swapped a 455 into that Cutlass
"S" or he might NEVER get it registered!

I used to wish each and every week for a chance to re-visit Australia, but I
quit wishing about three years ago, when I began to cherish the incredible
gift of freedom we have here in the United States, and how quietly and
easily it can slip away, much like our friends down under have experienced.

Mr. Chadwick, I do not have your requested information. However, if I run
across it, I will most certainly send it your way.

Good Luck.

I hope your parliment in Canberra regains some sense of value of the
Australian independent spirit. It seems they have forgotten their history
and live only to tie each other up in a suffocating web of beauracracy and
new laws. I'll be thinking of you.
- --Dan Burk
- ------------------------------------

>Hi
>
>I live in Morawa Western Australia and have been lucky enough to =
>purchase a 1970 Olds Cutlass 'S' Holiday Coupe (especially since they =
>were never sold in Australia!!)
>
>Unfortunately the wheels and tyres fitted are not legal in this state. =
>In order to make wheel and tyre modifications in WA I need to know the =
>factory front and rear wheel track (distance measured across the vehicle =
>from centre of tread to centre of tread) of this car.  I also need to =
>know the factory original tyre size fitted to these coupes. I seem to be =
>able to find almost ever spec except these one on the net.  I believe =
>that it would have been fitted with 14 x 7 inch wheels.>
>
>Can you help me???
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:54:44 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: Wide Band o2 Sensor

Bruce,
I'd like some more information on this also. Mostly in details to make, and 
approximate cost.  I'm a mechanic, not electronics... but I do know my way 
around a circuit board.. Sounds like an interesting project.

M

At 08:21 PM 10/28/2004 -0500, Bruce wrote:
>Some things like this have been available for kilobucks,
>to labs etc with the money.  But a dozen years ago some
>lower priced sensors came out, and several years ago
>the amateurs figured them out.  The electronics are not
>difficult, and now a lot of units are available for minimal
>hundreds, or build your own.  They use either the German
>or Japanese sensor.
>
>There are a lot of variations in different WB units.  Some
>have built in logging, some a digital interface to your PC
>laptop, some a digital display.  WIth 4 decades in
>electronics, I built a display that was highly intuitive
>and responsive to difficult changing situations (definitely
>NOT digital).  It has been quite well received by
>do-it-yourselfers, and I use it a lot.  Contact me for details.
>
>Bruce Roe  bcroe@juno.com

Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:18:15 -0700
From: Greg Tjosvold <tjosvold@polar7.com>
Subject: RE: 56 Olds Brake Drums?

>Hello
>How thin are the drums?
>They can be turned smooth and over sized linings installed on your 
>shoes,,,,you do still have your shoes?
>"D.V. Aldos" on Fraser Street Van.(I think its at 18th ave) can do this 
>for you.
>Good luck!
>Randy H.
>Maple Ridge B.C.

Awesome Randy. Thanks for the heads up. That would do the trick.

The things I learn each day...

Nanook the Newbie 

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:32:05 -0500
From: Karl Erik Aune <425power@ameritech.net>
Subject: Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine

or: Using 'State Of The Art' to make 40 year old equipment competitive 
for the 21st Century.

Or whatever.

So far as I am aware, there isn't very much available in 425 pistons. 
Low compression (deep dish) seems to be the only flavor out there and 
the things that Joe M stocks are apparently TRW 455 slugs with the 
compression height milled down. Yuck.
(If any of the above is incorrect, please jump in and say so)

I'll begin with the following premise:
"What I desire in a piston for my 425 will necessarily be of custom 
manufacture."
While I have no aspirations for this engine to be full-race, I do want 
it to be strip-worthy. In short; street duty is forseen but I would like 
the bottom end to be strong enough to support the demands of a 
roots-type supercharger if that opportunity should arise within the next 
40K miles on this engine. (or is that unreasonable?)
While there is some internal debate over what I want the final CR to be, 
that will be taken up by the choir invisible for the moment so that 
stage centre may be made available for another drama.

If a 425 piston must be custom, then I ought to maximize the advantages 
of customization.
In a nutshell, I should want to take full advantage of the interim 40 
years of automotive technology.

<< Piston coatings are also for extended life. The piston skirts are 
protected from cylinder wall wear, and the coating drastically cuts 
friction, making the engine more efficient. >>

Yes! Yes. Quite so, and just the sort of thing that I was looking for, 
but had not yet considered.
However, those coatings can be applied to a piston that is otherwise 
finished and ready to go in the cylinder, so coatings will be a final 
consideration.

What I am mostly "on" about is not so much re-inventing the piston so 
much as questioning what of the std 425 piston can be improved upon.

For example: Standard on a 425 piston are two top compression rings each 
in their own groove and two oil rings that share a groove with a 
'spreader' between them. Is there a better design/configuration for 
piston rings/grooves?
More grooves?
Different ring thickness?
I've heard good things about Zero-gap rings. Anyone care to comment?

So, to make an interminable post really, really short :
What do modern pistons have that mayhaps a 425 piston should?

Be groovy

K

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:31:25 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 1970 cutlass 's' holiday coupe in Australia

Dan,

Exceptionally well put. That was perfect. I salute you.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com



> I spent two and a half wonderful years living in Central Australia, and
left
> that great country in March, 1990.
>
> Back then we were running afoul of then-new legislation that regulated the
> importation of American iron into the country. Australian government was
> making it darned near impossible to comply with their rules by making us
> re-engineer mirrors, convert to right-hand drive, re-engineer the
headlamps
> and the subsequent illumination patterns, and even retrofit amber turn
> signal lamps onto classic cars like the '65 Mustang. All just to get the
car
> registered.
>
> In addition, all firearms (including BB-guns) were to be officially
> registered by the government.
>
> When I started there, I was able to camp "outback" pretty much wherever
and
> whenever I wanted, but by late 1989, the BLM had begun fencing off huge
> tracts of land, and shut down all off-roading in order to create a large
> system of walking trails that were so thoughtfully created and maintained
by
> us motorcyclists. Nowdays, all of that land has been handed over to the
> Australian Aboriginal people, who, from what I hear, now require all
> non-aboriginal people to get specific permission to tresspass on that
land,
> by either vehicle or foot.
>
> The country has since rounded up all firearms and taken them away from the
> common folk.
>
> We now find that the extent of governmental meddling in the Australian
> people's lives is so rampant that a regular bloke in Western Australia
can't
> even register his car with the fitment of aftermarket wheels. I'll bet he
> will even have to prove that the engine under the hood is ORIGINAL, or at
> the very least does not exceed the original displacement or performance
> characteristics. Lord help him if someone swapped a 455 into that Cutlass
> "S" or he might NEVER get it registered!
>
> I used to wish each and every week for a chance to re-visit Australia, but
I
> quit wishing about three years ago, when I began to cherish the incredible
> gift of freedom we have here in the United States, and how quietly and
> easily it can slip away, much like our friends down under have
experienced.
>
> Mr. Chadwick, I do not have your requested information. However, if I run
> across it, I will most certainly send it your way.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> I hope your parliment in Canberra regains some sense of value of the
> Australian independent spirit. It seems they have forgotten their history
> and live only to tie each other up in a suffocating web of beauracracy and
> new laws. I'll be thinking of you.
> --Dan Burk

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:50:41 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine

Karl,

> I'll begin with the following premise:
> "What I desire in a piston for my 425 will necessarily be of custom
> manufacture."


Correct. However, that's really a good thing.


> In short; street duty is forseen but I would like
> the bottom end to be strong enough to support the demands of a
> roots-type supercharger if that opportunity should arise within the next
> 40K miles on this engine. (or is that unreasonable?)


No, that's not. A close friend of mine with his small block Chevy powered
Anglia has a 6-71 blower with carbs. She ran perfectly on the street.


> However, those coatings can be applied to a piston that is otherwise
> finished and ready to go in the cylinder, so coatings will be a final
> consideration.


Correct, again.


> For example: Standard on a 425 piston are two top compression rings each
> in their own groove and two oil rings that share a groove with a
> 'spreader' between them. Is there a better design/configuration for
> piston rings/grooves?
> More grooves?
> Different ring thickness?
> I've heard good things about Zero-gap rings. Anyone care to comment?


Not really. The most benefit for rings is placement of the grooves in the
optimum postion on the piston using the rings of your choice. I've heard
very good thing about zero-gap rings and may very well use them in the next
engine I build, whichever decade that may be.


> So, to make an interminable post really, really short :
> What do modern pistons have that mayhaps a 425 piston should?


Cutting the weight of the piston and pin by 40%-50%, due to superior
engineering and superior materials. That in and of itself creates more
power.

Also, a custom piston allows one to design the piston top and compression
height to the best configuration for the application.

Finally, with custom pistons, one can get free floating piston pins, which
will be worth about 1/4 HP per cylinder. It all adds up.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Subject: Re: Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:09:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Pajak <ransomeliolds@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: 56 Olds Brake Drums?

If the drums end up too thin, they will warp, or even
crack, from the heat of braking. That's why there is a
maximum inside diameter specified for the drums.

Exceed that and you may run into trouble.

- --John Pajak 



- --- Greg Tjosvold <tjosvold@polar7.com> wrote:

> 
> >Hello
> >How thin are the drums?
> >They can be turned smooth and over sized linings
> installed on your 
> >shoes,,,,you do still have your shoes?
> >"D.V. Aldos" on Fraser Street Van.(I think its at
> 18th ave) can do this 
> >for you.
> >Good luck!
> >Randy H.
> >Maple Ridge B.C.
> 
> Awesome Randy. Thanks for the heads up. That would
> do the trick.
> 
> The things I learn each day...
> 
> Nanook the Newbie 
> 
> 
> 


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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:09:27 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Adapting modern piston tech to an antique engine

At Thursday, 28 October 2004, you wrote:

>or: Using 'State Of The Art' to make 40 year old equipment competitive 
>for the 21st Century.
>
>Or whatever.
>
>So far as I am aware, there isn't very much available in 425 
>pistons. Low compression (deep dish) seems to be the only 
>flavor out there and the things that Joe M stocks are 
>apparently TRW 455 slugs with the compression height milled 
>down. Yuck.

Dick Miller apparently also has 425 pistons; dunno what they are,
though. Check ROP for his e-mail/web addy. Last I saw, he sed the 
cost was $550/set.

SteveH



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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:22:44 -0400
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
Subject: WTB: BBO headers, any size/condition, cheap, in the Northeast

I've swapped a 455 into my '78 Jeep Cherokee, and while I can run stock 
manifolds, I'd like to try a set of headers. There is a lot of space 
between the motor and all other components, so headers designed for about 
any  chassis should work. This is a stock-spec '72 Toro motor, so I don't 
need big-tubes. In fact, since the underside of this thing is going to 
constantly muddy, appearance and fit is the last thing on my list of 
concerns. In addition, I may have to cut and reweld the pipes

If anyone has a set of sitting around taking up space that they wouldn't 
mind giving up cheap here in the Northeast, I'd come by and pick them up.

_______________________________________
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:26:33 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: For those of you in AZ W/$$ to burn...

> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:25:19 -0700
> From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
> Subject: Re: For those of you in AZ W/$$ to burn...
> 
> "Re: For those of you in AZ W/$$ to burn..."
> 
> That $$ immediately eliminates me.
> 
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com

Me, too, seeing as how I just bought a new 3 car garage with a house attached to it.
(And no, that does not mean that I now have room for more cars - I finally got enough 
garage to hold the ones I have).

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:33:03 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: RE: Carb choices at high altitude

> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:48:08 -0500
> From: bcroe@juno.com
> Subject: Carb choices at high altitude
>
> If you are serious about tuning for the street, you ought to 
> get a Wide Band OX sensor, which tells exactly how far 
> from S you actually are.  Essential for EFI, but works on 
> carbs too.   A bit expensive, there are a lot of units to 
> choose from.  I make one for myself, which I prefer to 
> the others.      Bruce Roe

Bruce,

I'm interested in your home-designed O2 sensor setup. Would you 
consider sending me the schematic and parts list?

Thanks,

Kenneth

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodney Kohler <srprojmgr4u@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FW: winning notification!!!!!

Chris,

I won last months drawing.... Another scam aroooo
- --- Christopher Witt <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> oh, man, is this my lucky day, or WHAT?
> I thought yesterday was good!
> Please, tell me how exactly I can claim this great
> prize
> Keep this secret though!
> -----------------------
> Chris Witt
> 1303 W. Miller Rd.
> Lansing MI 48911
> 
> RocketScience442@hotmail.com
> 
> Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or
> leave message.
> Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> >From: "international lotteries"
> <intnlotto103@hotmail.com>
> >To: intnlotto103@hotmail.com
> >Subject: winning notification!!!!!
> >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:08:58 -0300
> >
> >From Euro-Afro-American-Sweepstake Lottery
> >Headquarters: 1a, Bexon Court Carlton
> >Nottingham shire Nottingham NG4 1SQ Essex
> >United Kingdom
> >Customer Service: 580 NCA 85914
> >Ref: EAASL/941OYI/04
> >Batch: 12/25/DC34
> >EMAIL:intn_lotteries@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >                   CONGRATULATIONS WINNING
> NOTIFICATION
> >
> >We happily announce to you the draw of the
> Euro-Afro- American Sweepstake 
> >Lottery International programs held on the 13th
> oct. 2004 in Essex United 
> >Kingdom. Your e-mail address attached to ticket
> number: B9564 75604545 188 
> >with! Serial number 97560 drew the winning:
> 01/10/11/18/19/46, which 
> >subsequently won you the lottery in the 2nd
> category. You have therefore 
> >been approved to claim a total sum of US$820,000.00
> (Eighty Hundred and 
> >Twenty Thousand United States Dollars) in cash
> credited to file 
> >KPC/9080118308/02.This is from a total cash prize
> of US $1100,000,00 
> >Million dollars, shared amongst the first One
> Hundred and thirty (130) 
> >lucky winners in this category world-wide.
> >Please note that your lucky winning number falls
> within our Afro booklet 
> >representative office in Africa as indicated in
> your play coupon. In view 
> >of this, your US$820,000.00 (Eight Hundred and
> Twenty Thousand United 
> >States Dollars)would be released to you by Absa
> Bank South Africa.
> >
> >Our  agent will immediately commence the process to
> facilitate the release 
> >of your funds as soon as you contact him. All
> participants were selected 
> >randomly from World Wide Web site through computer
> draws system and 
> >extracted from over 10,000,00 companies. This
> promotion takes place 
> >annually. For security reasons, you are advised to
> keep your winning 
> >information confidential till your
> >claims is processed and your money remitted to you
> in whatever manner you 
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> >
> >This is part of our precautionary measure to avoid
> double claiming and 
> >unwarranted abuse of this program by some
> unscrupulous elements. Please be 
> >warned. To file for your claim, please contact our
> corresponding agent in 
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> quick and urgent release 
> >of your fund, contact information is as follow: -
> >
> >Dr.MOFE DAMIJOH  (Esq.)
> >E-mail: zuma007@hotmail.com
> >Direct Line: + 27 835 229 103
> >
> >Please be informed that all winning must be claimed
> on or before 20th 
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> with our designated 
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> >with our agent,please keep us
> >informed.
> >Sincerely,
> >Mrs. Teresa Allan.
> >United Kingdom Zonal Co-coordinator.
> >National Lottery
> >United Kingdom
> >
> 
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:43:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '56 Super 88 Moldings Needed in Germany

Not on the list, respond to ralf.nietiet@dsd-industry.com if you can
assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: moldings for 1956 olds super 98
From:   Ralf Nietiet <ralf.nietiet@dsd-industry.com>

Dear Members,

In 1992 my dad and me have aquired a 1956 built super 98 olds sedan in 
Cincinnati. We shipped the car to Germany in the same year and after his 
retirement in 2002 my dad started to refurbish the car. He completely 
dismanteled it. The body was removed from the frame and all parts have 
been cleaned and overhauled. The body which was in a terrible shape is now 
brushed with the original coulor and the car looks super and could almost 
be identified as new. Still missing for a perfect body however are new 
moldings. Almost every molding has scratches and is damaged. 
 
To date I was not able to identify somebody who could help me in finding 
moldings for our car. I'am glad to have accessed your club and hope that 
one of your members can help us out.

We would be very grateful for any response to solve our problem.

With kind regards 

Ralf and Willi Nietiet
_____________________________
Phone: +49 201 818 2315 /5175
Mobil: +49 175 7268674
Fax:+49 201 818 5294
ralf.nietiet@ferrostaal.com 

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:44:52 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: Carb choices at high altitude

You can see a home version WB at

   http://www.diy-wb.com   

If you get one working, Ihave a couple minor upgrades to it. 
I recommend also getting my display which works with it.  

Bruce Roe

29 Oct 2004  "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com> writes:
> > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:48:08 -0500
> > From: bcroe@juno.com
> > Subject: Carb choices at high altitude
> >
> > If you are serious about tuning for the street, you ought to 
> > get a Wide Band OX sensor, which tells exactly how far 
> > from S you actually are.  Essential for EFI, but works on 
> > carbs too.   A bit expensive, there are a lot of units to 
> > choose from.  I make one for myself, which I prefer to 
> > the others.      Bruce Roe
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> I'm interested in your home-designed O2 sensor setup. Would you 
> consider sending me the schematic and parts list?

> Kenneth

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