
oldsmobile-digest      Saturday, October 9 2004      Volume 01 : Number 5050



Re: Block stamping numbers
Re: Where did they go?
Non Olds Humor
Re: Non Olds Humor
Parts/Car for sale Oklahoma City area
Recommendation to clean rust..
Re: Block stamping numbers
Re: Ratio denotation
non olds humor
Re: Non Olds Humor
Re: Non Olds Humor
Re: Recommendation to clean rust..
Re: Ratio denotation
Re: Non Olds Humor
Re: non olds humor
Converting to A/C
RE: Non Olds Humor
RE: Hello..........maybe you remember me
Re: Converting to A/C
Re: Non Olds Humor
RE: Non Olds Humor
Re: Converting to A/C
Re: Non Olds Humor
Re: Converting to A/C
non olds humor
Converting to A/C
Re: Block stamping numbers
Re: Non Olds Humor
Re: Converting to A/C

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 08:13:34 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Block stamping numbers

At Thursday, 7 October 2004, you wrote:

>Ron,
>
>>Ah, another of my hot rod's anomalies. Not only did it 
>>come with a spreadbore and PCV, but the tail-light lenses 
>>read "65". Milt, do yours read "63"?
>
>It's not a hard & fast rule, but it's not good for a repair 
>shop that isn't sure what year car they're working on to go 
>by the year embossed on the tail light lenses. Thunder and 
>the other '64 Cutlass say 64, the '65 F-85 4-door says 65, 
>the '65 Vista Cruiser says 64, and the '97 Pontiac Trans 
>Sport says 95!

I believe the year on those lens is the first production year that 
the lens was approved by the govmint (DOT??), and really has nothing 
to do with the year of the vehicle itself. I've heard another postulate 
it was the year the lens was designed but I doubt that. I've always 
forgotten to look at very early vehicles, before the DOT came into 
being, to see when that year casting first appeared.

SteveH



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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 08:31:34 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Where did they go?

At Friday, 8 October 2004, you wrote:
David Brown (where ya' at David still around?) of Chicago was 
>the compiler of the FAQ and used to keep me updated what 
>with that website I had.

He's on the Toro reflector now, believe it or not. Not very active 
but he just posted yesterday AAMOF.

>Also just an FYI  I was the one who proofread the faq originally

DAMB, what a huge job.....  my hat's off to you, Clayton; I'm not 
sure I could put that much devotion and time into doing that, as 
large as the FAQ is these days  ;o|

>Anyways though... the newest version i have is the same that 
>is on 442.com.

I still need to check: but I believe the version on Jeff Herbert's Olds
Junction site is later.

>You will be able to find another copy (all the same
>information for now though) at
>http://www.442spot.com/cpierce/oldsfaq/oldsfaq.htm

Hasn't shown up as of 0835 Friday morn  ;o(

>It definately appears that the website is not only not 
>being maintained but is also not even functioning anymore 
>(other than the index page which I would hazard a guess 
>is being used merely to help maintain ownership of the
>domain name) not a single link works.

They've recently changed ISPs for the reflector itself as teh old 
ISP became extremely non-responsive. We were getting racy spam every 
day. But there's been some problems getting the new reflector rolling 
so it's been an on-going project over the last year but I think the 
reflector's now back and running better than ever. I'm not sure about 
a web site.

>I think I saw mention not too long ago of Mike Frederick's name 

He's still our Daddy on the Toro reflector  ;o)))

>.... and Sparky (Greg) Kalkhoff(sp?) and father as well

Yep, Grandpop's still around, too  ;o)))))

>I don't know if the list itself still functions or not
>though.

Certainly does.

>The G-body list however definately functions and suprises me 
>some days with 3 times the mail of this list :-)

Gess what: some days, I get three times the G-body's traffic from 
the ELKY reflector I'm on  =====================8-O

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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:52:30 -0500
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Non Olds Humor

What's going on in the car forums?

Bentley Forums
- - - - I used the ash tray today. How do I replace it?

Camaro/Firebird Forums
- - - - My girl slept with my brother and my wife. How can I kill 'em? btw, I 
have a record and I ain't going back.

Mustang (Chevelle) forums
- - - -Some punk kid in a Civic tried to race me.

Monte Carlo forums
- - - -Why do I keep getting pulled over, it ain't stolen yo.

Civic forums
- - - -Some punk kid in a Mustang tried to race me.

VW Bug forum
- - - - The Save the Earth concert was a success (pics)

Yugo Forum
- - - - When's the last time yours ran?

Lamborghini forum
- - - - Wind noise around 210MPH

Miata forums
- - - - Some redneck jackass in a Chevy Tahoe just ran over my car (pics)

Chevy Tahoe forum
- - - -Miata stuck in my undercarriage. How do I safely remove it? (pics)

Pontiac Fiero forum
- - - - Just bought a new flame retardant suit (pics)

BMW 7-series forum
- - - - Where to get service on my Rolex?

Cadillac forum
- - - - Problems parallel parking at bingo.

Chevy Suburban Forum
- - - - Is the price of gas going down anytime soon?

Buick Forum
- - - - Is Medicare or Medicaid right for me?

Delorean forum
- - - - Just got back from the future and blew a head gasket. Please help. I'm 
from 1985.

Crown Victoria forum
- - - - How come people never pass me on the highway?

Honda Accord forum
- - - - Mom is giving me the car. Looking for some cheap, used 18 inch rims.

Toyota Echo forum
- - - - Do our cars use AAA or AA's?

Ferrari forums
- - - - Need suggestions about a business trip to Colombia. Want to get in and 
out fast.

Porsche forums
- - - - Tire just went flat. Is it best to trade or sell the car myself?

Saturn forums
- - - - Roman candle landed on my fender. Melted and need to replace.

Jaguar forum
- - - - Is the carbon fiber dash kit group-buy still on?

Mercedes forum
- - - - My wife and her stink hole lawyer are trying to ruin me in divorce 
court. How do I get them both killed and not get in trouble with my medical 
board?

Mini forum
- - - - Just flipped the Cooper after seeing The Italian Job. Suing the movie 
company. (pics)

Dodge Viper forum
- - - - I frightened myself on the way home from work yesterday. How to get 
pee stains out of the leather?

McLaren F1 forum
- - - -Some punk kid in a F16 tried to race me.

Dodge Minivan forum
- - - - Where's the best place to post the soccer schedule so I don't forget 
where I'm supposed to be?

Hummer forum
- - - - Had a fender bender today. 24 hurt, 10 killed. Do I have to get the 
black touch-up paint from the dealer? He's 25 miles away. That's $35 in gas.

Fiat forum
- - - -Hello? Am I the only member?

Subaru WRX forum
- - - - I hate cops. Got ticketed for drifting in the Walmart parking lot.

Chevy pickup forum
- - - - How do I git the dried tobacco juice stains off the side of mah truck?

SRT Forums
"Will this void my warranty"

RX7 Forums
- - - - 13B Groupbuy full, stop PM'ing me.

DSM Forums
- - - -Transmission Groupbuy Full stop PM'ing me

Supra Forums
- - - -Head to big to fit in car, should have bought a Targa.

Vette Forums
- - - -Why did I pay $50k for something with a Cavalier steering wheel?

Ford 2.3 forums
- - - -Help! Replaced everything, still doesn't start!




Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:02:02 -0400
From: "David Popadic" <davepopadic@core.com>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

That was priceless.... :)

> 
> 
> What's going on in the car forums?
> 
> Bentley Forums
> - - - I used the ash tray today. How do I replace it?
> 
> Camaro/Firebird Forums
> - - - My girl slept with my brother and my wife. How can I kill 'em? 
btw, I
> have a record and I ain't going back.
> 
> Mustang (Chevelle) forums
> - - -Some punk kid in a Civic tried to race me.
> 
> Monte Carlo forums
> - - -Why do I keep getting pulled over, it ain't stolen yo.
> 
> Civic forums
> - - -Some punk kid in a Mustang tried to race me.
> 
> VW Bug forum
> - - - The Save the Earth concert was a success (pics)
> 
> Yugo Forum
> - - - When's the last time yours ran?
> 
> Lamborghini forum
> - - - Wind noise around 210MPH
> 
> Miata forums
> - - - Some redneck jackass in a Chevy Tahoe just ran over my car 
(pics)
> 
> Chevy Tahoe forum
> - - -Miata stuck in my undercarriage. How do I safely remove it? 
(pics)
> 
> Pontiac Fiero forum
> - - - Just bought a new flame retardant suit (pics)
> 
> BMW 7-series forum
> - - - Where to get service on my Rolex?
> 
> Cadillac forum
> - - - Problems parallel parking at bingo.
> 
> Chevy Suburban Forum
> - - - Is the price of gas going down anytime soon?
> 
> Buick Forum
> - - - Is Medicare or Medicaid right for me?
> 
> Delorean forum
> - - - Just got back from the future and blew a head gasket. Please 
help. I'm
> from 1985.
> 
> Crown Victoria forum
> - - - How come people never pass me on the highway?
> 
> Honda Accord forum
> - - - Mom is giving me the car. Looking for some cheap, used 18 inch 
rims.
> 
> Toyota Echo forum
> - - - Do our cars use AAA or AA's?
> 
> Ferrari forums
> - - - Need suggestions about a business trip to Colombia. Want to get 
in and
> out fast.
> 
> Porsche forums
> - - - Tire just went flat. Is it best to trade or sell the car myself?
> 
> Saturn forums
> - - - Roman candle landed on my fender. Melted and need to replace.
> 
> Jaguar forum
> - - - Is the carbon fiber dash kit group-buy still on?
> 
> Mercedes forum
> - - - My wife and her stink hole lawyer are trying to ruin me in 
divorce
> court. How do I get them both killed and not get in trouble with my 
medical
> board?
> 
> Mini forum
> - - - Just flipped the Cooper after seeing The Italian Job. Suing the 
movie
> company. (pics)
> 
> Dodge Viper forum
> - - - I frightened myself on the way home from work yesterday. How to 
get
> pee stains out of the leather?
> 
> McLaren F1 forum
> - - -Some punk kid in a F16 tried to race me.
> 
> Dodge Minivan forum
> - - - Where's the best place to post the soccer schedule so I don't 
forget
> where I'm supposed to be?
> 
> Hummer forum
> - - - Had a fender bender today. 24 hurt, 10 killed. Do I have to get 
the
> black touch-up paint from the dealer? He's 25 miles away. That's $35 
in gas.
> 
> Fiat forum
> - - -Hello? Am I the only member?
> 
> Subaru WRX forum
> - - - I hate cops. Got ticketed for drifting in the Walmart parking 
lot.
> 
> Chevy pickup forum
> - - - How do I git the dried tobacco juice stains off the side of mah 
truck?
> 
> SRT Forums
> "Will this void my warranty"
> 
> RX7 Forums
> - - - 13B Groupbuy full, stop PM'ing me.
> 
> DSM Forums
> - - -Transmission Groupbuy Full stop PM'ing me
> 
> Supra Forums
> - - -Head to big to fit in car, should have bought a Targa.
> 
> Vette Forums
> - - -Why did I pay $50k for something with a Cavalier steering wheel?
> 
> Ford 2.3 forums
> - - -Help! Replaced everything, still doesn't start!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Wyatt
> 70  4-4-2
> 67 Vista Cruiser
> 
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 07:16:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Crumley <crumleym_50@yahoo.com>
Subject: Parts/Car for sale Oklahoma City area

I was reading the paper today and found some ads to
pass along.  I have my mornings free so I can look at
anything for someone, here it goes:

3 motors 330-455 $250 ea.  Fenders/doors/bumpers (10)
$75-$250, 2 pair of A body buckets (doesn't state
year) $175  phone # 405-214-8510

1970 455 with trans. $400 405-771-3199

1968  Cutlass sport coupe restored to orig. $9k. 
(lotta money for plain Cutlass IMHO)

My parts for sale:

72 442 cutout bumper w/lenses  (straight, needs
chrome) $150
GA Heads from 72 Toro $225
72 Toro oil pan $60
72 Toro Dist. $10
72 Toro water pump (core) $10
73 455 cast crank $125

All of my parts are in Oklahoma City.  Pics are not
available at this time b/c we just moved.  Chris
Smetana can attest to the parts since he hauled the
motor from Chicago for me.  Hit me off the list with
questions.

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:23:46 -0500
From: "Ian Dixon" <IDixon@sbrc.ca>
Subject: Recommendation to clean rust..

> However, rust and dirt keep
> pouring out from the "inside" (between the outer and inner
> skin) of the deck lid.  What liquid can I use to clean and stop the 
> rust on the "inside" of this panel.

>>>>>Both POR-15 and ZeroRust make rust "converter" chemicals that will
help with that. Wash it out as best you can with POR's Marine Clean
solution (mixed with hot water, with a garden sprayer). Then treat it
with a converter. If you can get to an opening with a foam brush on a
long stick or stiff wire you might be able to paint it afterward with
one of their rust paints.
Drc<<<<<

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The best rust "converter" or reduction agent is simply diluted H2P04
(phosphoric acid).  Swoosh a 50/50 mix of stock 85% (concentrated)
H2P04/water in the deck lid, and the rust is reduced to magnetite.
Treat for a couple hours - overnight and then rinse well with water.
Rust converts to black magnetite and everything is coated with phosphate
- - which inhibits any further rusting.  Paints beautifully. Phosphoric
acid can be had from Sigma Chemical (St. Louis, MO).  

Its messy, and of course the concentrated stuff is noxious.  Neutralized
with water.

An even fancier (but nastier brew by far) version that fills pits and
does the reduction of rust is a mixture of 

(volume)
.33 acetone
.33 H20
.33 conc. phosphoric acid
1 gram of ZnCL2 or ZnPo4 (zinc chloride or zinc phosphate)

Works great - I used it for the restoration of my old '50 Olds truck.
Use in a well ventilated space, use a mask with fresh air source,
gloves, etc etc.   The big downside is the mixture is horribly toxic.
   
Ian Dixon

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:32:34 -0400
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Block stamping numbers

> I believe the year on those lens is the first production year that
> the lens was approved by the govmint (DOT??), and really has nothing
> to do with the year of the vehicle itself. I've heard another postulate

Makes sense: why change the mold? Every time they change the mold, even the
writing, they have to go back to DOT and get it approved again. Doesn't make
a lot of sense, why not just use the lens that was already approved? Not
like anyone cares what is written in tiny lettering in the corner...oh,
except us!!! LOL
Chris

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:27:27 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: Ratio denotation

> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:54:24 EDT
> From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Ratio denotation

snip

> Note to CB Witt: Thanks for pointing the ratio denotation  
> inaccuracy out to me and the List.  Of course, you are right.  Notice  I did 
> not commit the same gaffe in the above tables.  Had I been more  vigilant 
> previously, the offense would not have happened, as I merely copied and  pasted 
> information that was forwarded to me by the author of the text.  I  also used 
> spell checker on this post and tried to eliminate any dangling participles and misused  
> contractions.


OK, I confess. I sent the info to Steve with the incorrectly used colons. I noticed the 
error and changed it in my copy at some point, but I guess that was AFTER I forwarded it 
to Steve. I'm sorry to be the propagator of this, as I am typically very critical of using 
proper English and correct punctuation, especially in e-mails and technical information.

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:31:04 -0400
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: non olds humor

Yugo Forum
 > - - - When's the last time yours ran?

A friend of mine is a used car buyer for a local dealership
He always says "there is no such thing as a high milage Yugo"
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:42:57 -0400
From: Joe Vahabzadeh <king_v@mindless.com>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

At 08:52 AM 10/8/04 -0500, Dave wrote:

Loved it!  Though I gotta admit to a certain level of ignorance and ask:

What's an SRT?

and

What's a DSM?

	- Joe Vahabzadeh

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:06:48 -0400
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

Don't know about SRT, but IIRC, DSM is "Diamond Star Motors" referring to
the Mopar/Mitsubishi venture. They made the Dodge Stealth/Mitsubishi some
other jap crap name. They're essentially the same car with different
badging.
Chris
- ----- Original Message -----
>
> Loved it!  Though I gotta admit to a certain level of ignorance and ask:
>
> What's an SRT?
>
> and
>
> What's a DSM?
>
> - Joe Vahabzadeh

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:23:36 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Recommendation to clean rust..

I have used that rust converter (resipee...,no; rezepee....,no; resupie) I
thot I new what that wurd wuz......,Hell! I can tell you this much, sure
does remove wrinkles, and black heads! HA HA HA HA!

Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Dixon" <IDixon@sbrc.ca>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 8:23 AM
Subject: Recommendation to clean rust..


>
> > However, rust and dirt keep
> > pouring out from the "inside" (between the outer and inner
> > skin) of the deck lid.  What liquid can I use to clean and stop the
> > rust on the "inside" of this panel.
>
> >>>>>Both POR-15 and ZeroRust make rust "converter" chemicals that will
> help with that. Wash it out as best you can with POR's Marine Clean
> solution (mixed with hot water, with a garden sprayer). Then treat it
> with a converter. If you can get to an opening with a foam brush on a
> long stick or stiff wire you might be able to paint it afterward with
> one of their rust paints.
> Drc<<<<<
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> The best rust "converter" or reduction agent is simply diluted H2P04
> (phosphoric acid).  Swoosh a 50/50 mix of stock 85% (concentrated)
> H2P04/water in the deck lid, and the rust is reduced to magnetite.
> Treat for a couple hours - overnight and then rinse well with water.
> Rust converts to black magnetite and everything is coated with phosphate
> - which inhibits any further rusting.  Paints beautifully. Phosphoric
> acid can be had from Sigma Chemical (St. Louis, MO).
>
> Its messy, and of course the concentrated stuff is noxious.  Neutralized
> with water.
>
> An even fancier (but nastier brew by far) version that fills pits and
> does the reduction of rust is a mixture of
>
> (volume)
> .33 acetone
> .33 H20
> .33 conc. phosphoric acid
> 1 gram of ZnCL2 or ZnPo4 (zinc chloride or zinc phosphate)
>
> Works great - I used it for the restoration of my old '50 Olds truck.
> Use in a well ventilated space, use a mask with fresh air source,
> gloves, etc etc.   The big downside is the mixture is horribly toxic.
>
> Ian Dixon
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:28:54 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Ratio denotation

Hey Ken, what about those "past participles" and "split infinitives", lets
not forget them! LOL.
Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Ratio denotation


> > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:54:24 EDT
> > From: NUOLDSMAN@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: Ratio denotation
>
> snip
>
> > Note to CB Witt: Thanks for pointing the ratio denotation
> > inaccuracy out to me and the List.  Of course, you are right.  Notice  I
did
> > not commit the same gaffe in the above tables.  Had I been more
vigilant
> > previously, the offense would not have happened, as I merely copied and
pasted
> > information that was forwarded to me by the author of the text.  I  also
used
> > spell checker on this post and tried to eliminate any dangling
participles and misused
> > contractions.
>
>
> OK, I confess. I sent the info to Steve with the incorrectly used colons.
I noticed the
> error and changed it in my copy at some point, but I guess that was AFTER
I forwarded it
> to Steve. I'm sorry to be the propagator of this, as I am typically very
critical of using
> proper English and correct punctuation, especially in e-mails and
technical information.
>
> Kenneth
> 1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
> Phoenix, AZ
>

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:32:20 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

I think the SRT is Cadillac's version of a car/suv.

Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Vahabzadeh" <king_v@mindless.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor


> At 08:52 AM 10/8/04 -0500, Dave wrote:
> 
> Loved it!  Though I gotta admit to a certain level of ignorance and ask:
> 
> What's an SRT?
> 
> and
> 
> What's a DSM?
> 
> - Joe Vahabzadeh
> 

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:30:33 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: non olds humor

Or a low milage Fiat.

Rick Messenger
Spokane Washington
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Kelsey" <ribspot@pop4.net>
To: "olds list" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:31 PM
Subject: non olds humor


> Yugo Forum
>  > - - - When's the last time yours ran?
> 
> A friend of mine is a used car buyer for a local dealership
> He always says "there is no such thing as a high milage Yugo"
> John Kelsey
> Dayton Ohio
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:42:42 -0400
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Converting to A/C

My 71 Cutlass is non-A/C. I'd like to convert it to A/C, since if I drive it
down to Miami, it would probably be unpleasant as a daily driver in the city
without it. I was wondering if anyone has ever converted to A/C before, and
if it's an incredibly hard task?

Thanks,
Chris

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:40:47 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Non Olds Humor

As long as we're sharing jokes...

Two weeks ago was Mike's 45th birthday and he wasn't feeling too good that
morning. He went to breakfast knowing his wife would be pleasant and say
"Happy Birthday!" and probably have a present for him.

As it turned out, she didn't even say good morning, let alone any happy
birthday. He thought, well, that's wives for you, the children will
remember.

The children came in to breakfast and didn't say a word. So when he left for
the office, he was feeling pretty low and despondent.

As he walked into his office, his secretary Janet said, "Good morning Boss.
Happy Birthday!" and he felt a little better that someone had remembered.

Mike worked until noon, then Janet knocked on his door and said, "You know,
it's such a beautiful day outside, and it's your birthday, let's go to
lunch, just you and me."

Mike said, "By George, that's the greatest thing I've heard all day. Let's
go!" They went to lunch.

They didn't go where they normally go; instead they went out to a private
little place. They had two martinis and enjoyed lunch tremendously.

On the way back to the office, she said, "You know, it's such a beautiful
day. We don't need to go back to the office, do we?"

Mike said, "No, I guess not."

She said, "Let's go to my apartment."

After arriving at her apartment she said, "Boss, if you don't mind, I think
I'll go into the bedroom and slip into something more comfortable"

She went into the bedroom and, in about six minutes, she came out carrying a
huge birthday cake followed by Mike's wife, children, and dozens of his
friends, all singing Happy Birthday.

And Mike just sat there ----

on the couch ----

naked.

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:49:00 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Hello..........maybe you remember me

Welcome back to the list Erwin!

John Nasta

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:52:01 -0400
From: "Chris Carson" <fastcarson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Converting to A/C

I'm also aware that the hole in the firewall will need to be partially
welded up? Additionally, the bracketry on the 455 is already set-up for a/c
with the alternator on the driver's side, making it that much easier.
I figured that since people are throwing out their a/c parts all the time in
the name of "hot rodding" that the parts wouldn't be that expensive to
procure? :)
My goal for my car is to make it the ultimate cruiser with as many creature
comforts as possible :) Would have been nice to start with something with
all the options, but I work with what I have, and besides, it gives me
something to do!
Chris

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:16:12 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

Since most of us who write in to the list are fella's........, and since
it's Friday........., and it's joke time. Will Rogers once said that there
are 4 kind of men.

1. Those men who make mistakes.
2. Those men who learn from their mistakes.
3. Those men who learn from the mistakes of others.
                    AND
4. Those men who have to Pee on the electric fence for themselves.

I always thought this was shocking, but non-the-less true.

Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: Non Olds Humor


> As long as we're sharing jokes...
>
> Two weeks ago was Mike's 45th birthday and he wasn't feeling too good that
> morning. He went to breakfast knowing his wife would be pleasant and say
> "Happy Birthday!" and probably have a present for him.
>
> As it turned out, she didn't even say good morning, let alone any happy
> birthday. He thought, well, that's wives for you, the children will
> remember.
>
> The children came in to breakfast and didn't say a word. So when he left
for
> the office, he was feeling pretty low and despondent.
>
> As he walked into his office, his secretary Janet said, "Good morning
Boss.
> Happy Birthday!" and he felt a little better that someone had remembered.
>
> Mike worked until noon, then Janet knocked on his door and said, "You
know,
> it's such a beautiful day outside, and it's your birthday, let's go to
> lunch, just you and me."
>
> Mike said, "By George, that's the greatest thing I've heard all day. Let's
> go!" They went to lunch.
>
> They didn't go where they normally go; instead they went out to a private
> little place. They had two martinis and enjoyed lunch tremendously.
>
> On the way back to the office, she said, "You know, it's such a beautiful
> day. We don't need to go back to the office, do we?"
>
> Mike said, "No, I guess not."
>
> She said, "Let's go to my apartment."
>
> After arriving at her apartment she said, "Boss, if you don't mind, I
think
> I'll go into the bedroom and slip into something more comfortable"
>
> She went into the bedroom and, in about six minutes, she came out carrying
a
> huge birthday cake followed by Mike's wife, children, and dozens of his
> friends, all singing Happy Birthday.
>
> And Mike just sat there ----
>
> on the couch ----
>
> naked.
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:31:31 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: RE: Non Olds Humor

At 06:40 PM 10/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>And Mike just sat there ----
>
>on the couch ----
>
>naked.

Which of the Mikes that we know was this???

:o)))))))))))))))))))))

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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:35:06 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: Converting to A/C

At 06:52 PM 10/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm also aware that the hole in the firewall will need to be partially
>welded up? Additionally, the bracketry on the 455 is already set-up for a/c
>with the alternator on the driver's side, making it that much easier.
>I figured that since people are throwing out their a/c parts all the time in
>the name of "hot rodding" that the parts wouldn't be that expensive to
>procure? :)
>My goal for my car is to make it the ultimate cruiser with as many creature
>comforts as possible :) Would have been nice to start with something with
>all the options, but I work with what I have, and besides, it gives me
>something to do!

Don't forget that besides the heater box, you'll also have to install
inside ducting. And that'll require you to change the dash to some extent,
not to mention rebuilding the whole underside of the dash. I don't envy you
 ;o|

You might be far better off trying to find an underdash add-on unit; there
used to be quite a few of those in the '60s and even into the '70s. But
I'll admit I haven't seen one for many, many moons. I had one, myself, that
a friend gave me but I never used it. When I escaped California, I left it
in Dad's garage and eventually, the friend reclaimed it  ;o((((((((

SteveH

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 19:48:47 -0400
From: "ftfunnyfarm" <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

<And Mike just sat there ----on the couch ---naked.>


Damn and I missed that!!!

Tami
; }

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 17:48:44 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Converting to A/C

Steve, you are truly a renaissance man. I have NEVER appreciated any "hot
rod" that was not comfortable. There should be a category in the "Olds" club
for the "Comfy" hot rod.
I admit it, I am a Pussy, and proud of it!  LOL.,
Rick Messenger, 76 98 LS coupe
Spokane Washington
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Harrison" <k0xp@dandy.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Converting to A/C


> At 06:52 PM 10/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >I'm also aware that the hole in the firewall will need to be partially
> >welded up? Additionally, the bracketry on the 455 is already set-up for
a/c
> >with the alternator on the driver's side, making it that much easier.
> >I figured that since people are throwing out their a/c parts all the time
in
> >the name of "hot rodding" that the parts wouldn't be that expensive to
> >procure? :)
> >My goal for my car is to make it the ultimate cruiser with as many
creature
> >comforts as possible :) Would have been nice to start with something with
> >all the options, but I work with what I have, and besides, it gives me
> >something to do!
>
> Don't forget that besides the heater box, you'll also have to install
> inside ducting. And that'll require you to change the dash to some extent,
> not to mention rebuilding the whole underside of the dash. I don't envy
you
>  ;o|
>
> You might be far better off trying to find an underdash add-on unit; there
> used to be quite a few of those in the '60s and even into the '70s. But
> I'll admit I haven't seen one for many, many moons. I had one, myself,
that
> a friend gave me but I never used it. When I escaped California, I left it
> in Dad's garage and eventually, the friend reclaimed it  ;o((((((((
>
> SteveH
>

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:50:07 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: non olds humor

8 Oct 2004  John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net> writes:
> Yugo Forum

> A friend of mine is a used car buyer for a local dealership
> He always says "there is no such thing as a high milage Yugo"

You just redefine "high", the decimal point a position 
to the right.  Bruce Roe

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:57:27 -0500
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: Converting to A/C

I totally agree with Steve.  I have installed many of these 
(freon 12) units; minimal fuss and pretty decent cooling.

Factory air on the other hand, is a really scary conversion.

Bruce Roe

8 Oct 2004  Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net> writes:

> You might be far better off trying to find an underdash 
> add-on unit; there used to be quite a few of those in 
> the '60s and even into the '70s. 

> SteveH

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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 20:43:11 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Block stamping numbers

> Milton, that's not what I've seen.  The lens carry the number of only the
> first model year used if the lens was used for more than one model year,
but
> they do carry the number of the same model year.


Correct, that's what really is going on, I think. That first year is the
design year for the lens. However, you can't imagine how many mechanics
would order parts based on the year stamped on the tail light lenses,
instead of what year the car actually was. I distinctly remember arguments
with repair shops because we sent them the correct parts as they ordered,
but the parts were wrong, because they had the year wrong from reading the
tail light lens.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 00:38:31 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Non Olds Humor

oops, so how did he look wearing the cake,
now the look on his face was priceless just curious who was more surprised?
Ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Non Olds Humor


> As long as we're sharing jokes...
> 
> Two weeks ago was Mike's 45th birthday and he wasn't feeling too good that
> morning. He went to breakfast knowing his wife would be pleasant and say
> "Happy Birthday!" and probably have a present for him.
> 
> As it turned out, she didn't even say good morning, let alone any happy
> birthday. He thought, well, that's wives for you, the children will
> remember.
> 
> The children came in to breakfast and didn't say a word. So when he left for
> the office, he was feeling pretty low and despondent.
> 
> As he walked into his office, his secretary Janet said, "Good morning Boss.
> Happy Birthday!" and he felt a little better that someone had remembered.
> 
> Mike worked until noon, then Janet knocked on his door and said, "You know,
> it's such a beautiful day outside, and it's your birthday, let's go to
> lunch, just you and me."
> 
> Mike said, "By George, that's the greatest thing I've heard all day. Let's
> go!" They went to lunch.
> 
> They didn't go where they normally go; instead they went out to a private
> little place. They had two martinis and enjoyed lunch tremendously.
> 
> On the way back to the office, she said, "You know, it's such a beautiful
> day. We don't need to go back to the office, do we?"
> 
> Mike said, "No, I guess not."
> 
> She said, "Let's go to my apartment."
> 
> After arriving at her apartment she said, "Boss, if you don't mind, I think
> I'll go into the bedroom and slip into something more comfortable"
> 
> She went into the bedroom and, in about six minutes, she came out carrying a
> huge birthday cake followed by Mike's wife, children, and dozens of his
> friends, all singing Happy Birthday.
> 
> And Mike just sat there ----
> 
> on the couch ----
> 
> naked.
> 
> 
>

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 00:19:05 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Converting to A/C

Chris,

Go to http://www.hotrodair.com/index.html . There's another vendor, Classic
Air maybe, but for some reason it's not in favorites.

Converting a non-AC car to AC with all factory parts is a real pain. The
add-on units would be better. Actually, there's an advantage to add-on AC
units that I really like.

When you start your factory AC car, it takes awhile for the cold air to cool
off all of that factory sheetmetal and ducting and actually deliver cold air
to the passengers. With an add-on underdash AC unit, it gets cold instantly.
I like that a lot better.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


> My 71 Cutlass is non-A/C. I'd like to convert it to A/C, since if I drive
it
> down to Miami, it would probably be unpleasant as a daily driver in the
city
> without it. I was wondering if anyone has ever converted to A/C before,
and
> if it's an incredibly hard task?

> I'm also aware that the hole in the firewall will need to be partially
> welded up? Additionally, the bracketry on the 455 is already set-up for
a/c
> with the alternator on the driver's side, making it that much easier.
> I figured that since people are throwing out their a/c parts all the time
in
> the name of "hot rodding" that the parts wouldn't be that expensive to
> procure? :)
> My goal for my car is to make it the ultimate cruiser with as many
creature
> comforts as possible :) Would have been nice to start with something with
> all the options, but I work with what I have, and besides, it gives me
> something to do!

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