
oldsmobile-digest     Tuesday, November 23 2004     Volume 01 : Number 5098



the journey reaches a milestone
Re: the journey reaches a milestone
pics of my pure stock 69 W-31 engine
Re: pics of my pure stock 69 W-31 engine
Re: the journey reaches a milestone
the journey reaches a milestone
RE: the journey reaches a milestone
1966 olds 98 problems
Re: 1966 olds 98 problems
P/O 76 Cutlass 2dr, no sheetmetal
Re: 1966 olds 98 problems
Re: 1966 olds 98 problems
Re: 1966 olds 98 problems
Heater control valve
Re: Heater control valve
no brake lights
OCA buck passing ceremony still going strong
Re: no brake lights

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:58:40 -0800 (PST)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: the journey reaches a milestone

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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Earlier today I have finally accomplished a major milestone.  First a quick history lesson.  The date was June 1998 and I was in the market for a 442.  I stumbled across ads in Hemmings, JWO and Olds Today (an Oldsmobile magazine similar to USA Today) for a 69 Cutlass S W-31.  I thought to myself, no it can't be.  After I had my brother check it out, I drove up to the Chicago area, checked out the car and left a deposit with Bob Cline.  I had just purchased my 1969 Cutlass S W-31.  The car was rough since it was a Chicago car it's entire life and had seen its share of winters.  It had also been stored in a barn for the last 6 years, but all the numbers matched.  This journey though musclecar ownership would see many changes, buying a house, marriage, losing jobs, divorce, unemployment because of the economy and having to move back home.  After finally getting my life in order I decided to take the plunge.  Nov of 2003 James Aiello and myself drove down to J&S Machine to talk with Jim
 Lapikas about rebuilding the original engine for my W-31 to Pure Stock Drag Racing specs.  June of this past year Matt Crumley and myself made plans to meet up and head over to Jim's shop as my engine was ready.  To say I was excited would be an understatement.  After hearing my engine on Jim's "running stand" I was stoked.  It sounded absolutely wicked as any high winding small block with a 308 degree .474 lift cam running through headers and open exhaust should.  The next several months would see me spend a lot more money on mightaswells as I swapped back in the original rebuilt engine that I had yanked out many years and several moves ago.  And finally, a journey that has been 14 years in the making has reached THE milestone that I have waited quite a long time for.  My baby is now breathing on her own!!!!!!!!!!!  Words don't even begin to describe the excitement and jubilation I am feeling.   1000 rpm lumpy idle.  100 octane racing fuel being mixed in my
 rebuilt/recolored/restored 29255 q-jet.  The spent fumes exiting through full 2.5" Torque Tech exhaust.  It's absolute music to my ears.  Quite possible the most beautiful sound I've heard in a long time.  The next step, which will be equally exciting is the first drive.  After bleeding the brakes and doing a few minor things I hope to make the maiden voyage this coming weekend.  And you can bet your ass, I'll be repaving a small portion of pavement in Aurora, IL!!!!!
 
I will be posting a few pics, hopefully this evening and I will then send the link to the list.
 
Chris
grp442@yahoo.com
 
1969 Cutlass S W-31    SHE'S ALIVE!!!!!!!
1970 F-85  proud brother
1969 442 parts car
1970 F-85 parts car
and a whole bunch of parts for sale

			
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<DIV>Ladies and Gentlemen,</DIV>
<DIV>Earlier today I have finally accomplished a major milestone.&nbsp; First a quick history lesson.&nbsp; The date was June 1998 and I was in the market for a 442.&nbsp; I stumbled across ads in Hemmings, JWO and Olds Today (an Oldsmobile magazine similar to USA Today) for a 69 Cutlass S W-31.&nbsp; I thought to myself, no it can't be.&nbsp; After I had my brother check it out, I drove up to the Chicago area, checked out the car and left a deposit with Bob Cline.&nbsp; I had just purchased my 1969 Cutlass S W-31.&nbsp; The car was rough since it was a Chicago car it's entire life and had seen its share of winters.&nbsp; It had&nbsp;also been stored in a barn for the last&nbsp;6 years, but all the numbers matched.&nbsp; This journey though musclecar ownership would see many changes, buying a house, marriage, losing jobs, divorce, unemployment because of the economy and having to move back home.&nbsp; After finally getting my life in order I decided to take the plunge.&nbsp; Nov of
 2003 James Aiello and myself drove down to J&amp;S Machine to talk with Jim Lapikas about rebuilding the original engine for my W-31 to Pure Stock Drag Racing specs.&nbsp; June of this past year Matt Crumley and myself made plans to meet up and head over to Jim's shop as my engine was ready.&nbsp; To say I was excited would be an understatement.&nbsp; After hearing my engine on Jim's "running stand" I was stoked.&nbsp; It sounded absolutely wicked as any high winding small block with a 308 degree&nbsp;.474 lift cam running through headers and open exhaust should.&nbsp; The next several months would see me spend&nbsp;a lot&nbsp;more&nbsp;money on mightaswells as I swapped&nbsp;back in the original rebuilt engine that I had yanked out many years and several moves ago.&nbsp; And finally, a journey that has been 14 years in the making has reached THE milestone that I have waited quite a long time for.&nbsp; My baby is now breathing on her own!!!!!!!!!!!&nbsp; Words don't even begin to
 describe the excitement and jubilation I am feeling.&nbsp;&nbsp; 1000 rpm lumpy idle.&nbsp; 100 octane racing fuel being mixed in my rebuilt/recolored/restored 29255 q-jet.&nbsp; The spent fumes exiting through full 2.5" Torque Tech exhaust.&nbsp; It's absolute music to my ears.&nbsp; Quite possible the most beautiful sound I've heard in a long time.&nbsp; The next step, which will be equally exciting is the first drive.&nbsp; After bleeding the brakes and doing a few minor things I hope to make the maiden voyage this coming weekend.&nbsp; And you can bet your ass, I'll be repaving a small portion of&nbsp;pavement in Aurora, IL!!!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I will be posting a few pics, hopefully this evening and I will then send the link to the list.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Chris</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:grp442@yahoo.com">grp442@yahoo.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>1969 Cutlass S W-31&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SHE'S ALIVE!!!!!!!</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85&nbsp; proud brother</DIV>
<DIV>1969 442 parts car</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85 parts car</DIV>
<DIV>and a whole bunch of parts for sale</DIV><p>
	
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:26:20 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: the journey reaches a milestone

Chris,

OUTSTANDING!

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


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From: "chris smetana" <grp442@yahoo.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: the journey reaches a milestone


> Ladies and Gentlemen,
> Earlier today I have finally accomplished a major milestone.  First a
quick history lesson.  The date was June 1998 and I was in the market for a
442.  I stumbled across ads in Hemmings, JWO and Olds Today (an Oldsmobile
magazine similar to USA Today) for a 69 Cutlass S W-31.  I thought to
myself, no it can't be.  After I had my brother check it out, I drove up to
the Chicago area, checked out the car and left a deposit with Bob Cline.  I
had just purchased my 1969 Cutlass S W-31.  The car was rough since it was a
Chicago car it's entire life and had seen its share of winters.  It had also
been stored in a barn for the last 6 years, but all the numbers matched.
This journey though musclecar ownership would see many changes, buying a
house, marriage, losing jobs, divorce, unemployment because of the economy
and having to move back home.  After finally getting my life in order I
decided to take the plunge.  Nov of 2003 James Aiello and myself drove down
to J&S Machine to talk with Jim
>  Lapikas about rebuilding the original engine for my W-31 to Pure Stock
Drag Racing specs.  June of this past year Matt Crumley and myself made
plans to meet up and head over to Jim's shop as my engine was ready.  To say
I was excited would be an understatement.  After hearing my engine on Jim's
"running stand" I was stoked.  It sounded absolutely wicked as any high
winding small block with a 308 degree .474 lift cam running through headers
and open exhaust should.  The next several months would see me spend a lot
more money on mightaswells as I swapped back in the original rebuilt engine
that I had yanked out many years and several moves ago.  And finally, a
journey that has been 14 years in the making has reached THE milestone that
I have waited quite a long time for.  My baby is now breathing on her
own!!!!!!!!!!!  Words don't even begin to describe the excitement and
jubilation I am feeling.   1000 rpm lumpy idle.  100 octane racing fuel
being mixed in my
>  rebuilt/recolored/restored 29255 q-jet.  The spent fumes exiting through
full 2.5" Torque Tech exhaust.  It's absolute music to my ears.  Quite
possible the most beautiful sound I've heard in a long time.  The next step,
which will be equally exciting is the first drive.  After bleeding the
brakes and doing a few minor things I hope to make the maiden voyage this
coming weekend.  And you can bet your ass, I'll be repaving a small portion
of pavement in Aurora, IL!!!!!
>
> I will be posting a few pics, hopefully this evening and I will then send
the link to the list.
>
> Chris
> grp442@yahoo.com
>
> 1969 Cutlass S W-31    SHE'S ALIVE!!!!!!!
> 1970 F-85  proud brother
> 1969 442 parts car
> 1970 F-85 parts car
> and a whole bunch of parts for sale
>
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:36:11 -0800 (PST)
From: chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com>
Subject: pics of my pure stock 69 W-31 engine

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As promised, here is the URL to the two latest engine pics
 
http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0874.JPG
 
http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0894.JPG
 
 
Chris
grp442@yahoo.com
 
1969 Cutlass S W-31  SHE'S ALIVE!!!!!!
1970 F-85  proud brother
1969 442 parts car
1970 F-85 parts car
plus a hole mess of parts for sale

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<DIV>As promised, here is the URL to the two latest engine pics</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0874.JPG">http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0874.JPG</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0894.JPG">http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0894.JPG</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Chris</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:grp442@yahoo.com">grp442@yahoo.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>1969 Cutlass S W-31&nbsp; SHE'S ALIVE!!!!!!</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85&nbsp; proud brother</DIV>
<DIV>1969 442 parts car</DIV>
<DIV>1970 F-85 parts car</DIV>
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:02:37 -0600
From: Brian Ammons <b_ammons@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: pics of my pure stock 69 W-31 engine

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pretty

At 08:36 PM 11/21/2004 -0800, you wrote: 
>
> As promised, here is the URL to the two latest engine pics
>  
>
> <http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0874.JPG>http://grp442.20megsfree.com/10
> 0_0874.JPG
>  
>
> <http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0894.JPG>http://grp442.20megsfree.com/10
> 0_0894.JPG
>  
>  
> Chris
> <mailto:grp442@yahoo.com>grp442@yahoo.com
>  
> 1969 Cutlass S W-31  SHE'S ALIVE!!!!!!
> 1970 F-85  proud brother
> 1969 442 parts car
> 1970 F-85 parts car
> plus a hole mess of parts for sale
>
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pretty<br>
<br>
At 08:36 PM 11/21/2004 -0800, you wrote: <br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>As promised, here is the URL to the two latest
engine pics<br>
 <br>
<a href="http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0874.JPG">http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0874.JPG</a><br>
 <br>
<a href="http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0894.JPG">http://grp442.20megsfree.com/100_0894.JPG</a><br>
 <br>
 <br>
Chris<br>
<a href="mailto:grp442@yahoo.com">grp442@yahoo.com</a><br>
 <br>
1969 Cutlass S W-31&nbsp; SHE'S ALIVE!!!!!!<br>
1970 F-85&nbsp; proud brother<br>
1969 442 parts car<br>
1970 F-85 parts car<br>
plus a hole mess of parts for sale<br>
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:58:01 -0600
From: Branson Sparks <bsparks@gosparkle.net>
Subject: Re: the journey reaches a milestone

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
Congratulations, you deserve it. It's been a long time coming.

- --Branson

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:33:57 -0600
From: bcroe@juno.com
Subject: the journey reaches a milestone

Great, lets see some 1/4 mile and 0-60 numbers.  You live in Aurora?  

Bruce Roe, Aurora, IL

21 Nov 2004 chris smetana <grp442@yahoo.com> writes:
> 1000 rpm lumpy idle.  100 octane racing fuel being mixed in 
> my rebuilt/recolored/restored 29255 q-jet.  The spent fumes 
> exiting through full 2.5" Torque Tech exhaust.  It's absolute 
> music to my ears.  Quite possible the most beautiful sound 
> I've heard in a long time.  The next step, which will be equally 
> exciting is the first drive.  After bleeding the brakes and doing 
> a few minor things I hope to make the maiden voyage this 
> coming weekend.  And you can bet your ass, I'll be repaving 
> a small portion of pavement in Aurora, IL!!!!!
>  
> I will be posting a few pics, hopefully this evening and I will then 
> send the link to the list.
>  
> Chris

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:14:35 -0500
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: the journey reaches a milestone

Lay down some rubber for me!  I know the feeliings you are having.  Enjoy 
every moment.



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:21:34 +0000
From: Oldscarguy@comcast.net
Subject: 1966 olds 98 problems

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Hello,

I am writing to discribe some problems which my 1966 Olds 98 is experiencing.  
First, the heater in the car puts out nice heat, but causes the windows to fog up.  I turned on the defroster, but that only fogs the car up faster.  
Second, the windshield wipers will sometimes not want to turn off completely after use.  They will just move up and down about 10 degrees, but never stop, unless I turn the car off and restart it.
Third, does anyone know where I can get a windshield wiper switch with the knob and bezel.

Thanks,
Tim Bender
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<DIV>Hello,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am writing to discribe&nbsp;some problems which my 1966 Olds 98 is experiencing.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>First, the heater in the car puts out nice heat, but causes the windows to fog up.&nbsp; I turned on the defroster, but that only fogs the car up faster.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>Second, the windshield wipers will sometimes not want to turn off completely after use.&nbsp; They will just move up and down about 10 degrees, but never stop, unless I turn the car off and restart it.</DIV>
<DIV>Third, does anyone know where I can get a windshield wiper switch with the knob and bezel.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Tim Bender</DIV></body></html>

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:48:17 -0500
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: 1966 olds 98 problems

At 09:21 AM 11/22/2004, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am writing to discribe some problems which my 1966 Olds 98 is 
>experiencing.
>First, the heater in the car puts out nice heat, but causes the windows to 
>fog up.  I turned on the defroster, but that only fogs the car up faster.

You probably have a pinhole leak in your heater-core. A fine mist of 
antifreeze is condensing on your glass. What you describe is a textbook 
example of just such a leak.

>Second, the windshield wipers will sometimes not want to turn off 
>completely after use.  They will just move up and down about 10 degrees, 
>but never stop, unless I turn the car off and restart it.

The contacts for the park mechanism of the wipers may be sticking. The 
solution would be to either remove the cover and clean the contacts with 
some fine sandpaper or an ignition file, or replace the motor and its relay 
(I believe they were integral in '66).

>Third, does anyone know where I can get a windshield wiper switch with the 
>knob and bezel.

There is a good chance that Everett Horton will have one; he has a large 
stash of NOS and used parts for the big cars:

ANTIQOLDS@aol.com

He's on this mail list, but may miss this post so a direct e-mail is best.


_______________________________________
Bob Barry  MailTo:rbarry@providence.edu
http://home.off-road.com/~wagoneer/ 

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:21:34 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: P/O 76 Cutlass 2dr, no sheetmetal

Rubber bumper fillers
glass
350 engine, trans
column shifter bench seat red interior
Dash
etc.

Just in yesterday
Strike while the iron is hot!
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Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:48:18 -0500
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: 1966 olds 98 problems

At Monday, 22 November 2004, you wrote:

>Hello,
> 
>I am writing to discribe some problems which my 1966 Olds 98 
>is experiencing.  
>First, the heater in the car puts out nice heat, but causes 
>the windows to fog up.  I turned on the defroster, but that 
>only fogs the car up faster.

Your heater core is leaking. You'll either have to find a replacement 
or remove the old one and get it rebuilt. If you're running antifreeze,
you should have smelled it by now. Check the carpet on the passenger 
side up high, just underneath the dash and make sure the coolant 
has not been dripping through the ducting onto the carpet and thus 
the floorboards.

>Second, the windshield wipers will sometimes not want to 
>turn off completely after use. They will just move up and 
>down about 10 degrees, but never stop, unless I turn the 
>car off and restart it.

This sounds like a poor or broken ground strap on the wiper motor.
Or, the bolt over the ground strap may have broken, as happened 
to me on my 1988 full-sized wagon. If the strap looks OK, there is 
probably corrosion between the strap and wiper motor housing, or 
the strap and firewall.

>Third, does anyone know where I can get a windshield wiper 
>switch with the knob and bezel.

Can't help with that, sorry.

SteveH



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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:30:02 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 1966 olds 98 problems

Tim,

> First, the heater in the car puts out nice heat, but causes the windows to
fog up.  I turned on the defroster, but that only fogs the car up faster.


The heater core is leaking. Coolant vapor is being circulated in the car's
atmosphere, causing the windows to steam. On defrost, the coolant vapor is
being blown directly onto the windshield, making it worse. It doesn't take
much of a leak. Just seeping seams are enough. You should be able to smell
and/or taste antifreeze inside the car when the heater is on. The heater
core needs to be replaced.


> Second, the windshield wipers will sometimes not want to turn off
completely after use.  They will just move up and down about 10 degrees, but
never stop, unless I turn the car off and restart it.


The cam inside the wiper motor may be excessively worn?


> Third, does anyone know where I can get a windshield wiper switch with the
knob and bezel.


Fusick's may have one. http://www.fusick.com/

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:41:08 EST
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1966 olds 98 problems

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In a message dated 11/22/2004 1:29:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
imp@theriver.com writes:

The  heater
core needs to be replaced.



A quick fix is to add stop leak to your rad. That will cure the  problem.

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:32:37 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Heater control valve

Can anyone cross reference a P/N for me and see if it will fit my '68 400?

EVERCO HEATER CONTROL VALVE PART# H1985

TIA,


Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:11:26 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Heater control valve

Mark,

H1985 fits '64-'67 V6 A-bodies with AC. The correct valve for your car is a
H1996.

However, in the illustration section, H1996 screws into the back of the
intake manifold. H1985 is a 5/8" heater hose inline valve and is also listed
as "1963-1972 GM w/AC universal, 5/8" hose." I think you can use it.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


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From: "Mark Mullins" <mark@marineaviation.org>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:32 PM
Subject: Heater control valve


> Can anyone cross reference a P/N for me and see if it will fit my '68 400?
>
> EVERCO HEATER CONTROL VALVE PART# H1985
>
> TIA,
>
>
> Mark Mullins
> Tucson, Az
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:33:25 -0500
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: no brake lights

Sorry for a non-Olds question, but I suddenly have no brake lights in my 69
el camino. There is no power getting to the brake light switch. One side
should be hot all the time. Any idea which side (orange or white wire)? I
tried a new switch for the heck of it, but of course to no avail. The fuse
is good, so I'm not sure what's going on. They worked in the past.

Thanks,
John Nasta

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:40:56 -0500
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: OCA buck passing ceremony still going strong

for your amusement/ whatever...
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Chris Witt
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>From: "Bob Casey" <yellowbird@golden.net>
>To: "Christopher Witt" 
><rocketscience442@hotmail.com>,<JourneyWithOlds@mindspring.com>
>CC: <peyancey@aol.com>
>Subject: Re: UPDATE ME? 5th notice JWO correction for the 2004 Nats- 1966 
>442 L-69 1st? BOC?
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:47:38 -0500
>
>Mr.Witt,
>
>Yes, you are entitled to see the correction in print.
>I have instructed the Meet Head Judge to expedite this entry.
>I have no control over what or when the JWO editor chooses to include
>received copy for the OCA magazine.
>I did what I felt was fair to you in getting what we felt you deserved.
>If you intended for me to get your other "notices", I did not.
>When you copy me you get the results that I can provide as the OCA Chief
>Judge and I have fulfilled that obligation to you.
>I ask that you seek info on the remainder of your concern from those in
>charge of this.
>The JWO editor would be your best choice and I have no control over the
>result.
>
>Bob Casey,
>OCA Chief Judge
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>To: <JourneyWithOlds@mindspring.com>
>Cc: <peyancey@aol.com>; <yellowbird@golden.net>
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:02 AM
>Subject: UPDATE ME? 5th notice JWO correction for the 2004 Nats- 1966 442
>L-69 1st? BOC?
>
>
> > Tic toc tic toc
> > No response is... irresponsible.
> >
> > Is correction/ publication for my 2004 Nats entry in the 12/04 issue, or
>are
> > we still having problems?
> >
> > M.r Yancey, Mr. Casey, perhaps you can spur the correct action out of 
>the
> > JWO editor?
> > 11/22/04
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 11/20
> > Daily nag, no reply as yet
> > Looks like I might need the official OCA address...
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 11/18
> > Daily nag, no reply as yet
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 11/16
> > Daily Nag, no reply yet.
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 11/15
> > >From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
> > >To: JourneyWithOlds@mindspring.com
> > >Subject: UPDATE ME? JWO publish correction for the 2004 Nats- 1966 442
>L-69
> > >1st? BOC? Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:52:47 -0500
> > >
> > >Have not heard back yet, I would appreciate an update.
> > >I am expecting the fact that my entry won an award at the 2004 Nats to 
>be
> > >published next JWO. Really should have been in the Novermber issue.
> > >
> > >Is there a problem?
> > >My phone works just fine, use the cell number please.
> > >-----------------------
> > >Chris Witt
> > >1303 W. Miller Rd.
> > >Lansing MI 48911
> > >
> > >RocketScience442@hotmail.com
> > >
> > >Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
> > >Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days
> > >
> >
> >
>

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:22:43 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: no brake lights

> Sorry for a non-Olds question,


Don't be, for I'll bet my '65 Olds shop manual wiring diagram is identical
to your El Camino.


> but I suddenly have no brake lights in my 69
> el camino. There is no power getting to the brake light switch. One side
> should be hot all the time. Any idea which side (orange or white wire)? I
> tried a new switch for the heck of it, but of course to no avail. The fuse
> is good, so I'm not sure what's going on.


Orange is power into the switch. The white wire goes to the turn signal
switch, and then routes through that switch to the brake lights. If you
don't have power on the orange wire to the stoplight switch, something has
stopped it upstream from there.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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