
oldsmobile-digest    Thursday, September 30 2004    Volume 01 : Number 5041



Re: Best buys/ best tools
Re: Best buys/ best tools
Re: Oil Filters / AC Delco
4.057- what the hell is that?
(no subject)
Hot strippers and such
Sue the OCA?
Rocket Science- Strange Rocket Science
Re: 67 Olds Delta 88 as a Donor?
RE: Oil Filters / AC Delco
RE: Trunk seal...or not...
Re: Oil Filters / AC Delco
(no subject)
RE: Sue the OCA?
Re: Best buys/ best tools
RE: Sue the OCA?
Gas Gauge
Re: Sue the OCA?
468ci - 13 mpg!
Re: Car Title Info.
RE: Hot strippers and such
Re: Sue the OCA?
RE: Gas Gauge
Re: Rocket Science- Strange Rocket Science
Re: Hot strippers and such
RE: Sue the OCA?
Re: Hot strippers and such
Re: Sue the OCA?
Re: Hot strippers and such

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:28:04 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools

depends  they may  haul off n slug you then buy you a beer. any way the wife  likes the idea too. 
not much left for wandering eyes to look at
Ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools


> And what is even better, when they start looking fat,,,,,,, you can actually
> say, MAN, your looking fat. Just ask all the guys! LOL.
> Rick M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools
>
>
>> the great thing about having dikes for neighbors; is they never ask you
> for squat. they fix there
>> own car, cut there own lawn and would rather do things for
>> themselves than ask a man.
>> Ron
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
>> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools
>>
>>
>> > Fella's ............, Steve said DIKEs, and my next door neighbor is
> VERY
>> > butch:  Greg is not GoNNa like this!
>> > Rick.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Steve Harrison" <k0xp@dandy.net>
>> > To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:06 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Best buys/ best tools
>> >
>> >
>> >> At 05:41 PM 9/29/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>> >> >You tool abusers know who you are.
>> >> >Get help now, before it's too late.
>> >>
>> >> Damb, I almost think he's serious  ;o(((((((((
>> >>
>> >> I use my dikes to cut my toe nails. What's being abused there?
>> >> :o)))))))
>> >>
>> >> SteveH
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:29:12 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools

me two
ron
 lol
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools


> Shoot............, I never did lern to spel.
> Rick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:03 PM
> Subject: RE: Best buys/ best tools
> 
> 
>> "Dikes" is short for "diagonal cutters".
>> 
>> John Nasta
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> 
>> Fella's ............, Steve said DIKEs, and my next door neighbor is VERY
>> butch:  Greg is not GoNNa like this!
>> Rick.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> > At 05:41 PM 9/29/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>> > >You tool abusers know who you are.
>> > >Get help now, before it's too late.
>> >
>> > Damb, I almost think he's serious  ;o(((((((((
>> >
>> > I use my dikes to cut my toe nails. What's being abused there?
>> > :o)))))))
>> >
>> > SteveH
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
>

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:32:58 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Oil Filters / AC Delco

totally astray, Steve mentioned mooning someone. I don't know. with dikes and strippers.  I must be 
in the twilight zone.
Scotty beam me up.
Ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:00 AM
Subject: Oil Filters / AC Delco


>I sent this before realizing that the thread had gone astray...  Resending
> with a more appropriate subject line.
>
> Regards,
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools
>
>
>> > Actually, the local Shell oil dealer believes AC filters are Mfged by
>> > Baldwin. I think I agree, since my Baldwin trans filter for the Trans
>> Sport
>> > was identical to the AC filter that came out, including the embossed
> part
>> > number and the patent number and a GM group number. Obviously, the two
>> > filters were completely identical.
>>
>> ----------------------
>>
>> AC Delco is the premiere reboxer these days.  I have seen some "Delco"
> parts
>> that were still in the manufacturer's box inside the AC Delco box.
>>
>> On the filters, a  lot of them are being farmed out these days.  Some of
>> that is not so bad, as I have seen some types that were obviously Champion
>> Labs or Baldwin.  Both Champion Labs and Baldwin make a nice filter.  I
> have
>> seen some others from overseas that were obviously of far lower quality.
>> The other irritation is that the fluting on the bottom of the filter where
> a
>> cup type filter wrench tries to grab has changed from the traditional
> style
>> that my Snap On filter wrenches were built for.  I have strap type filter
>> wrenches, and even a couple of those jobs that work like an old fashioned
>> kitchen jar opener, but I like the cup type better as I tend to make less
> of
>> a mess using them.
>>
>> For filters, I have switched to WIX (part of Dana / Victor) for new
>> purchases.  Still made in the USA and they fit my Snap On wrenches.  My
>> local independent parts guy carries them.  No one in my area carries
>> Baldwin.
>>
>> On a side note, if you want a new water pump for your Olds or Chebby V8,
> buy
>> an Airtex.  90% of the "Delco" new water pumps for these applications are
>> Airtex in a Delco box.  The same pump in the Airtex box is 40% less at
>> jobber cost.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:50:31 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: 4.057- what the hell is that?

In the olden day, it seemed like they made pistons in fractonal sizes, 
4.000, 4+1/8", etc.

330's are 3+15/16... stroke is 3.385, which is no obvious fraction.

Where DO they come up with these numbers? Why 3.385" ??

Then comes the 350... apparently, they stuck with the magic number "350" 
plus or minus 1 or 2 CID, across the GM lines. Not gonna change the crank 
tooling [stroke]... so therefore the bore shall be... 4.057.

Not 4+1/16 [4.0625], Oh hell no. And the 403 is 4.351.....

Any ideas?

I guess if you are making them by the 10's of millions, and what you do sets 
the pace in the world, you can make the parts any size you want, who's gonna 
say it's not so clever?

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:03:15 -0400
From: Jay Honeycutt <jay@buseng.com>
Subject: (no subject)

signoff

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:20:12 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Hot strippers and such

From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Best buys/ best tools

Now we're talking about strippers. This list has really gone downhill since
Greg left.
=================
heh
That's good, go into the store, and ask if they have any STRIPPERS here?! 
When they deny it, show them otherwise.

I saw a can of "Fogging Oil" at the store the other day.
Hey, you guys got any FOGGING OIL in here?

Oh, can you page my brother for me? He's in here somewhere... Mike... Mike 
Hunt. Anyone seen Mike Hunt? He's here with Rich... Rich Hooker. If there's 
a Rich Hooker in the store, please come to Customer "Service", your "party" 
is waiting!
ha ha ha ha ha

Chris Witt

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:35:04 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Sue the OCA?

Let's hope that they man-up and do the Right Thing
I damn well want my 2 cent trophy

I mailed the corrections/ rebuttals to their misinformation/ list of 
demands/ notice of intent to file suit if not resolved to my satisfaction 
via certified mail on Monday. Just e-mailed the same thing. Went to OCA 
president, meet organizer [if you can call that "organized"], meet head 
judge and OCA chief judge [I suspect he got the title "chief" because of the 
Smoke Signals from burning his wacky terbaccy... 'cause he is the most 
confused and misinformed of the lot].

Should be interesting to see how fast they backpedal and arse-cover now. 
Circle the wagons!

Heck, maybe they WILL get some sense and take care of things properly.

If not... see ya in court.
I am gonna act just like them... as UN-friendly as I can be. Unless they 
change course...
It's a cryin' shame they have behaved so irresponsibly that it has come to 
this.
Politics. Bah!

Chris Witt

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:42:43 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Rocket Science- Strange Rocket Science

Have you guys seen the LDRS show that was on recently?
Large Dangerous Rockets Society

These guys are launching really big rockets
like 55 ft long
One powered by like 300 "D" engines
One guy launched a porta-potty. Seriously.
Some guys make their own engines and their own propellant.

My efforts pale in comparison.
These guys are not far from making orbital flights. Just a matter of $ and 
time.

Chris Witt
not sure what the Olds relevance is... Rocketry I guess.

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:25:17 EDT
From: Oldsfire1@aol.com
Subject: Re: 67 Olds Delta 88 as a Donor?

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I could use some parts off of the 67 Delta 88 as long as it is a 2 dr. H/T.   
 Holiday Coupe!!!
John A.
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:47:08 +0000
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg_o@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Oil Filters / AC Delco

>Actually, the local Shell oil dealer believes AC filters are Mfged by
>Baldwin. I think I agree, since my Baldwin trans filter for the Trans
>Sport was identical to the AC filter that came out, including the
>embossed part number and the patent number and a GM group
>number. Obviously, the two filters were completely identical.

Just as a data point here, I've installed several AC-Delco PF47s that were 
stamped "Made in England." No difference in quality that I could see.

As for the tightening-the-new-filter issue, I once saw to my amazement (and 
if someone had told me this, I wouldn't have believed them) that the 
instructions on a Sears house-brand oil filter said, as the last step of 
installing the filter, that you were supposed to _tighten_ the new filter 
_with_a_wrench_. If I hadn't read that myself, I never would have believed 
it. Incredible.

I'm not sure that Sears sells a house brand of oil filter anymore. I 
certainly hope not!

- -- Andy

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:09:17 -0500
From: "Clark, Pat" <PClark@Ignition.com>
Subject: RE: Trunk seal...or not...

I have the exact same issue on my 69 442. Doesn't seem to hurt it.
If you can figger out a way to fix it, let me know.



Pat Clark
IGNITION INC.
P 972-516-8700
F 972-516-8690


- -----Original Message-----
From: John C. Ramsey [mailto:jramsey77@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:17 PM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Trunk seal...or not...


Hello all,

  I'm in the process of de-bugging my '69 Cutlass 'S' after reassembly, and
have found an interesting issue.  I've adjusted my trunk lid until I'm blue
in the face, and it is as tight as I can make it.  Using a piece of paper, I
can tell where I'm getting decent contact between the lid and the
weatherstrip.  I've been able to get good contact at the forward edge and
the two sides, but the rear has a gap of about 1/8" in the area under the
trunk lock!!!  This is, of course, hidden by sheet metal so it is not
visible from the outside.  Has anyone else had this problem?  The trunk lid
and the sheet metal that holds the weatherstip are original to the car and
have not been tweaked or bent.

  I guess it doens't worry me too much, since I'm not likely to get water
leaks through there (the water would have to travel upward)...but it just
kind of bugs, and I'd like to fix it properly if possible.

  Any thoughts?

thanks!
John Ramsey
'69 Cutlass 'S'




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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:51:50 -0400
From: "Frederick Nissen" <fsnissen@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Oil Filters / AC Delco

> As for the tightening-the-new-filter issue, I once saw to my amazement
(and
> if someone had told me this, I wouldn't have believed them) that the
> instructions on a Sears house-brand oil filter said, as the last step of
> installing the filter, that you were supposed to _tighten_ the new filter
> _with_a_wrench_. If I hadn't read that myself, I never would have believed
> it. Incredible.

- --------------------

It depends on the application.  There are a number of filter applications
(most are imports or foreign built engines) that DO call for tightening with
a wrench.  You can have a disaster if you do not follow the instructions and
snug it up with a wrench.  This does not apply to Olds V8s, or most other GM
pushrod engines.

Regards,
Fred

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:31:49 -0500
From: SKammerer@alberto.com
Subject: (no subject)

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:33:28 -0400
From: Jack Kopf <jkopf@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: Sue the OCA?

This is sad.  You voluntarily submit your car to be scrutinized by others.
Maybe
they're not as well informed, maybe better but without malice. When the
judges don't
see it your way you want a lawyer?

This is the attitude that kills things. Why do something as innocuous as a
club meet
if you have to watch out for the trial lawyers. So the price for all goes up
and the
# of events goes down.

Get over it.

Jack

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Christopher Witt
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:35 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Sue the OCA?


Let's hope that they man-up and do the Right Thing
I damn well want my 2 cent trophy

I mailed the corrections/ rebuttals to their misinformation/ list of
demands/ notice of intent to file suit if not resolved to my satisfaction
via certified mail on Monday. Just e-mailed the same thing. Went to OCA
president, meet organizer [if you can call that "organized"], meet head
judge and OCA chief judge [I suspect he got the title "chief" because of the
Smoke Signals from burning his wacky terbaccy... 'cause he is the most
confused and misinformed of the lot].

Should be interesting to see how fast they backpedal and arse-cover now.
Circle the wagons!

Heck, maybe they WILL get some sense and take care of things properly.

If not... see ya in court.
I am gonna act just like them... as UN-friendly as I can be. Unless they
change course...
It's a cryin' shame they have behaved so irresponsibly that it has come to
this.
Politics. Bah!

Chris Witt

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:46:34 -0700
From: <postmaster@biglow.iwarp.com>
Subject: Re: Best buys/ best tools

With Rick worrying about Greg being a mounty...

>What for........, Greg's not gonna be back untill maybe ......., monday?
>But then he said he was traveling through Washington.........., Fom Seattle.
>I live in Spokane............, you don't think..............., no......, he
>can't find me . Can he.
>He's not a mounty is he?
>Rick

No..Noo Noooo!  We're not even going to go there!!!!

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:51:07 -0500
From: "Dave Wyatt" <wyattolds@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Sue the OCA?

This seems a little extreme to me.  I realize there was a ton of money and 
effort put into your car, but going to court over a "lost" judging sheet, 
among other things, does seem a little excessive.

Sounds to me like it might be a good time to bury the hatchet and give the 
OCA another chance to do it right before going for the throat.  This might 
be time to pop open a cold one, polish the car, and relax.



Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2
67 Vista Cruiser





>From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Sue the OCA?
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:35:04 -0400
>
>Let's hope that they man-up and do the Right Thing
>I damn well want my 2 cent trophy
>
>I mailed the corrections/ rebuttals to their misinformation/ list of 
>demands/ notice of intent to file suit if not resolved to my satisfaction 
>via certified mail on Monday. Just e-mailed the same thing. Went to OCA 
>president, meet organizer [if you can call that "organized"], meet head 
>judge and OCA chief judge [I suspect he got the title "chief" because of 
>the Smoke Signals from burning his wacky terbaccy... 'cause he is the most 
>confused and misinformed of the lot].
>
>Should be interesting to see how fast they backpedal and arse-cover now. 
>Circle the wagons!
>
>Heck, maybe they WILL get some sense and take care of things properly.
>
>If not... see ya in court.
>I am gonna act just like them... as UN-friendly as I can be. Unless they 
>change course...
>It's a cryin' shame they have behaved so irresponsibly that it has come to 
>this.
>Politics. Bah!
>
>Chris Witt
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:59:28 -0400
From: "David Popadic" <davepopadic@core.com>
Subject: Gas Gauge

For a few months now, the gas gauge on my 67 Cutlass has been acting 
strange.  During ANY accelration, the gauge will drop anywhere 1/4 to 
1/2 mark and then go back to normal reading.  I could understand if it 
happened in heavy accleration and the gas in the tank would move 
dramatically, but it happens if I'm going 55 mph and then give it 
alittle gas (not floor it) to get up to 60mph.

Any ideas?

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:02:44 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sue the OCA?

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Chris,
Relax. Doesn't matter what they think. Your car is the trophy!
 
 
Bruce
75  Delta 88 Conv. (duals, of course)
72 Cutlass Conv.
56 190 SL Conv.
92  Eldo

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:12:55 -0400
From: "Tour Op & Travel Agency Trade 2000" <travelchile@manquehue.net>
Subject: 468ci - 13 mpg!

good news guys - my last city driving experience was again very good -
13mpg! Looks I have an economy car instead of 7.8l V8 iron...
I wonder what will happen when I install the big Ed Performer RPM Qjet... I
hope the extra power will help me forget the less mpg..
rgds
Matt
81CS

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:20:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodney Kohler <srprojmgr4u@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Car Title Info.

These sites are great, however do you check your older
Oldsmobiles? Seems the older cars do not have enough
digits in the VIN? Anyone have any clues?
RK
- --- ftfunnyfarm <ftfunnyfarm@voyager.net> wrote:

> Just thought I would pass this info on to you all!!
> Just in case no one has
> these sites!
> 
> Tami
> 
>   www.titlechecker.com
> 
> 
> 
>  www.consumerguide.com
> 
> 
> 
>  www.eztitlesearch.com/
> 
> 
>
http://www.autocheck.com/consumers/gatewayAction.do?siteID=759
> 
> 
> 



		
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:18:58 -0400
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
Subject: RE: Hot strippers and such

That's like going into a hardware store and asking the guy where his "caulk"
is (gotta pronounce it just right). Then tell him you plan to do a lot of
caulking and you want to you want to make sure you have the right caulk for
the job, etc...

John Nasta



- -----Original Message-----

I saw a can of "Fogging Oil" at the store the other day.
Hey, you guys got any FOGGING OIL in here?

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:53:03 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Sue the OCA?

damm chris. relax. its a cheap trophy, is it really worth all this discontentment.
why do you need a trophy to prove the car is the way its supposed to be.
just my 2 cents.
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:35 AM
Subject: Sue the OCA?


> Let's hope that they man-up and do the Right Thing
> I damn well want my 2 cent trophy
> 
> I mailed the corrections/ rebuttals to their misinformation/ list of 
> demands/ notice of intent to file suit if not resolved to my satisfaction 
> via certified mail on Monday. Just e-mailed the same thing. Went to OCA 
> president, meet organizer [if you can call that "organized"], meet head 
> judge and OCA chief judge [I suspect he got the title "chief" because of the 
> Smoke Signals from burning his wacky terbaccy... 'cause he is the most 
> confused and misinformed of the lot].
> 
> Should be interesting to see how fast they backpedal and arse-cover now. 
> Circle the wagons!
> 
> Heck, maybe they WILL get some sense and take care of things properly.
> 
> If not... see ya in court.
> I am gonna act just like them... as UN-friendly as I can be. Unless they 
> change course...
> It's a cryin' shame they have behaved so irresponsibly that it has come to 
> this.
> Politics. Bah!
> 
> Chris Witt
> 
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:58:42 -0600
From: "John C. Ramsey" <jramsey77@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Gas Gauge

I'd clean the ground on your gas gauge and make sure that you're getting
good contact.  I'm not sue that this is the cause of your problem but it's a
relatively easy place to start.  The ground should be a wire attached to the
body from the top front of your gas tank.  This is usually the culprit for
gas gauge problems, but it is certainly not unheard of for a sending unit to
go bad.

Hope this helps!
John Ramsey
'69 Cutlass 'S'

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of David Popadic
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:59 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Gas Gauge


For a few months now, the gas gauge on my 67 Cutlass has been acting
strange.  During ANY accelration, the gauge will drop anywhere 1/4 to
1/2 mark and then go back to normal reading.  I could understand if it
happened in heavy accleration and the gas in the tank would move
dramatically, but it happens if I'm going 55 mph and then give it
alittle gas (not floor it) to get up to 60mph.

Any ideas?

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:02:41 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket Science- Strange Rocket Science

> Some guys make their own engines and their own propellant.


That's what my friend, Allen Britt, and I did in high school ('60-'64). A
solid fuel engine with 250 pounds of thrust, thrust duration 4.5 seconds,
vehicle velocity of Mach 3. The fuel was pure 60% potassium nitrate and 40%
powdered sugar melted together in a very large pot and poured into the
engine casing around the round center mandrel for the burn bore. I still
have the engine.

At the UofA, one of our NASA projects for about 5 years was hybrid rocket
engine research, fuel in one physical state and oxidizer in a different
physical state. We didn't launch anything, but we did build several small
scale hybrid rocket engines for research. We got to the point where we could
throttle the engine thrust up and down, just like a car engine or an
aircraft engine.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:23:24 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: Hot strippers and such

I thought about this all last nite, and today. Since I got a good "rubbing"
about my Fram fettish. I should come clean.

My name is Rick Messenger, and I am a Framaholic ;  I feel so much better
now.
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: Hot strippers and such


> That's like going into a hardware store and asking the guy where his
"caulk"
> is (gotta pronounce it just right). Then tell him you plan to do a lot of
> caulking and you want to you want to make sure you have the right caulk
for
> the job, etc...
>
> John Nasta
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I saw a can of "Fogging Oil" at the store the other day.
> Hey, you guys got any FOGGING OIL in here?
>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:25:00 -0500
From: "Michelle Angus" <mangus@neb.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Sue the OCA?

Hey Jack,

     If the OCA would just man up and give Chris his score sheet like
everybody else got, and quit being so darn pig headed, this wouldn't
have to go like this.  I don't believe in grabbing for the lawyers
unless nessacary, but if they had just listened and understood in the
first place, everyone would be happy, and Chris could make the
corrections to his car, and wouldn't feel like he wasted his time and
money.
     It is the OCA's attitude towards this whole situation that I  find
disturbing. 

    Just my 2cents worth, take it or leave it.

John

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Jack Kopf
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:33 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: Sue the OCA?

This is sad.  You voluntarily submit your car to be scrutinized by
others.
Maybe
they're not as well informed, maybe better but without malice. When the
judges don't
see it your way you want a lawyer?

This is the attitude that kills things. Why do something as innocuous as
a
club meet
if you have to watch out for the trial lawyers. So the price for all
goes up
and the
# of events goes down.

Get over it.

Jack

- -----Original Message-----
From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
[mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Christopher Witt
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:35 AM
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Sue the OCA?


Let's hope that they man-up and do the Right Thing
I damn well want my 2 cent trophy

I mailed the corrections/ rebuttals to their misinformation/ list of
demands/ notice of intent to file suit if not resolved to my
satisfaction
via certified mail on Monday. Just e-mailed the same thing. Went to OCA
president, meet organizer [if you can call that "organized"], meet head
judge and OCA chief judge [I suspect he got the title "chief" because of
the
Smoke Signals from burning his wacky terbaccy... 'cause he is the most
confused and misinformed of the lot].

Should be interesting to see how fast they backpedal and arse-cover now.
Circle the wagons!

Heck, maybe they WILL get some sense and take care of things properly.

If not... see ya in court.
I am gonna act just like them... as UN-friendly as I can be. Unless they
change course...
It's a cryin' shame they have behaved so irresponsibly that it has come
to
this.
Politics. Bah!

Chris Witt

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:58:11 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: Hot strippers and such

The first step, is admitting you have a prolem.... LOL

M

At 04:23 PM 9/30/2004 -0700, Rick wrote:
>My name is Rick Messenger, and I am a Framaholic ;  I feel so much better
>now.

Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:21:07 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Sue the OCA?

on the note about oca, im not pleased about a few of there so called rules.  and second they really 
offer spit.
they axed the ralley 350 club in nj. so now i have to join a club in another state. and for a olds 
club to be reconized by them they  have to follow oca guid lines, and pay $. thats what it boils 
down too. funny since oca axed the ralley 350 club we have not had a sponsored olds day here in 
nj.where is oca.
i missed the part about not giveing him his score sheet. that is b/s. but once again they make and 
break the rules its okay. chris you can retaliate by writeing every car mag, even  write a letter in 
the oca home town paper. be a thorn in there ass.  and by all means do not expect fair judgement 
next round.
just my 2 cents
ron
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michelle Angus" <mangus@neb.rr.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: Sue the OCA?


> Hey Jack,
>
>     If the OCA would just man up and give Chris his score sheet like
> everybody else got, and quit being so darn pig headed, this wouldn't
> have to go like this.  I don't believe in grabbing for the lawyers
> unless nessacary, but if they had just listened and understood in the
> first place, everyone would be happy, and Chris could make the
> corrections to his car, and wouldn't feel like he wasted his time and
> money.
>     It is the OCA's attitude towards this whole situation that I  find
> disturbing.
>
>    Just my 2cents worth, take it or leave it.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Jack Kopf
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:33 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: Sue the OCA?
>
> This is sad.  You voluntarily submit your car to be scrutinized by
> others.
> Maybe
> they're not as well informed, maybe better but without malice. When the
> judges don't
> see it your way you want a lawyer?
>
> This is the attitude that kills things. Why do something as innocuous as
> a
> club meet
> if you have to watch out for the trial lawyers. So the price for all
> goes up
> and the
> # of events goes down.
>
> Get over it.
>
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Christopher Witt
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:35 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Sue the OCA?
>
>
> Let's hope that they man-up and do the Right Thing
> I damn well want my 2 cent trophy
>
> I mailed the corrections/ rebuttals to their misinformation/ list of
> demands/ notice of intent to file suit if not resolved to my
> satisfaction
> via certified mail on Monday. Just e-mailed the same thing. Went to OCA
> president, meet organizer [if you can call that "organized"], meet head
> judge and OCA chief judge [I suspect he got the title "chief" because of
> the
> Smoke Signals from burning his wacky terbaccy... 'cause he is the most
> confused and misinformed of the lot].
>
> Should be interesting to see how fast they backpedal and arse-cover now.
> Circle the wagons!
>
> Heck, maybe they WILL get some sense and take care of things properly.
>
> If not... see ya in court.
> I am gonna act just like them... as UN-friendly as I can be. Unless they
> change course...
> It's a cryin' shame they have behaved so irresponsibly that it has come
> to
> this.
> Politics. Bah!
>
> Chris Witt
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's
> FREE!
> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
>
> 

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:23:58 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Hot strippers and such

now beat youre head  against the wall and repeat i will only use a/c delco on my gm car.lol
i used to like hastings but had one clogg, then purilator blew appart, baldwin was the ticket.
ron
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Hot strippers and such


>I thought about this all last nite, and today. Since I got a good "rubbing"
> about my Fram fettish. I should come clean.
> 
> My name is Rick Messenger, and I am a Framaholic ;  I feel so much better
> now.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Nasta" <email@johnnasta.com>
> To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 2:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Hot strippers and such
> 
> 
>> That's like going into a hardware store and asking the guy where his
> "caulk"
>> is (gotta pronounce it just right). Then tell him you plan to do a lot of
>> caulking and you want to you want to make sure you have the right caulk
> for
>> the job, etc...
>>
>> John Nasta
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> I saw a can of "Fogging Oil" at the store the other day.
>> Hey, you guys got any FOGGING OIL in here?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
>

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