
oldsmobile-digest     Sunday, September 12 2004     Volume 01 : Number 5019



UNBOUNCE: '53 Olds engine size
Re: Headers for the 19__ Delta 88 with SBO ??
Re: UNBOUNCE: '53 Olds engine size
Re: UNBOUNCE: '53 Olds engine size
changing lockup torque converter apply speed
Re: changing lockup torque converter apply speed
Re: changing lockup torque converter apply speed
RS has the 66 442 engine E-400
Water Pumps List
67 cutlass/442 stuff free
RE: 67 cutlass/442 stuff free
Olds stuff for sale

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:46:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: '53 Olds engine size

Not on the list, respond to BBROADUS@peoplepc.com if you can assist.

Greg Beaulieu    ab348@chebucto.ns.ca    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
          Olds List Admin Info: http://oldslist.oldsgmail.com

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:   "BERNARD BROADUS JR." <BBROADUS@peoplepc.com>
Subject: oil filter conversion/engine identification

    I've got a 53 olds rocket 88, and was wondering if you could tell me 
how i could identify the size of the motor.  I'd also like to know if 
there is any way I can convert the canister oil filter to a more modern 
type oil filter.

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:45:00 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Headers for the 19__ Delta 88 with SBO ??

> So Milt; Steve H, thinks that they will fit in my car, and since the
engine
> compartment according to my eyeballs, says the Delta 88, and the 98 appear
> exactly the same. Would you venture to say then that it should work?


I don't know. I won't guess on that one.


> or if they need to be tweaked , would
> opting on a good set of un-coated be better.


If you have to dimple headers to fit an application, definitely use painted
headers, not ceramic coated. You should apply heat via a propane torch with
a MAPP tank to heat the metal to cherry red before beating with a ballpeen
hammer.


> I think my car would run sooooo
> much better with headers and duel pipes.


Any engine runs better with headers and dual exhaust.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:22:55 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: '53 Olds engine size

>     I've got a 53 olds rocket 88, and was wondering if you could tell me
> how i could identify the size of the motor.


If it's a '53 with the original engine, it's a 303.

  I'd also like to know if
> there is any way I can convert the canister oil filter to a more modern
> type oil filter.


You would have to order these items from a speed equipment shop. Offenhauser
still has # 100 oil filter by-pass adapter for '49-'58 Olds engines. Then
buy an Offy # 5877 or other brand equivalent remote single screw on oil
filter base that uses a Fram PH-8A Ford/MOPAR type oil filter. That base
mounts wherever you wish in the engine compartment. Run 1/2" oil&gas hose
from the Offy oil by-pass adapter to the remote oil filter base, and you
have gotten your engine converted to a screw on oil filter.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:39:53 -0400
From: "Roc88ket" <roc88ket@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: '53 Olds engine size

I was able to help him on both points. Hope it helps.

Just sold my '53 after 18 years.

John Sanders
'01 Aurora 4.0
'03 Aurora Final 500

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:18:16 -0700
From: "David Manly" <dmanlyr@comcast.net>
Subject: changing lockup torque converter apply speed

Hello all.

Thought I would see if anyone new of a good trans person that might be able
to help with changing the lockup torque converter apply speed. Currently it
applies at 30 - 35 mph and it would be preferable to have it apply at approx
45 mph as it lugs the engine something awful at the lower speed. This would
be a non computer controlled 81' Cutlass with a diesel, 200c trans. (yes, I
would love to have a 350c or a 200r4, although finding one complete with a
torque converter setup for a diesel is hard to find)

Years ago I had a trans shop here locally (close to Seattle, WA) that had
pretty good person, and I performed much the same on a 83' Olds Cierra with
a 4.3l diesel (TH125c). Unfortunately that person has moved on.

Thoughts?

Thanks, David

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 06:25:40 -0400
From: John Kelsey <ribspot@pop4.net>
Subject: Re: changing lockup torque converter apply speed

David Manly wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> Thought I would see if anyone new of a good trans person that might be able
> to help with changing the lockup torque converter apply speed. Currently it
> applies at 30 - 35 mph and it would be preferable to have it apply at approx
> 45 mph as it lugs the engine something awful at the lower speed. This would
> be a non computer controlled 81' Cutlass with a diesel, 200c trans. (yes, I
> would love to have a 350c or a 200r4, although finding one complete with a
> torque converter setup for a diesel is hard to find)
> 
> Years ago I had a trans shop here locally (close to Seattle, WA) that had
> pretty good person, and I performed much the same on a 83' Olds Cierra with
> a 4.3l diesel (TH125c). Unfortunately that person has moved on.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks, David
> 
> 
> 
> 
David
   Just install a toggle switch under the dash. You can keep the 
convertor from locking up at all when the switch is off. We did this a 
lot when lock up convertors first came out and people complained of the 
lock/unlock surge which happened a lot during in town driving
John Kelsey
Dayton Ohio

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:23:41 -0400
From: "ron fama" <77w30442@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: changing lockup torque converter apply speed

THE LOC UP IS CONTROLLED BY A VACUUM SWITCH MOUNTED USUALLY ON FIRE WALL.
IF MEMORY SERVES  THERE ARE DIFFERENT PART NUMBERS FOR DIFF APPLY  CALIBRATIONS
RON.
P/S CHEVY AND GMC USED THIS ALLOT ON PICK UP TRUCKS  IN THE 77-85 YR  RANGE
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Kelsey" <ribspot@pop4.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: changing lockup torque converter apply speed


> David Manly wrote:
> > Hello all.
> > 
> > Thought I would see if anyone new of a good trans person that might be able
> > to help with changing the lockup torque converter apply speed. Currently it
> > applies at 30 - 35 mph and it would be preferable to have it apply at approx
> > 45 mph as it lugs the engine something awful at the lower speed. This would
> > be a non computer controlled 81' Cutlass with a diesel, 200c trans. (yes, I
> > would love to have a 350c or a 200r4, although finding one complete with a
> > torque converter setup for a diesel is hard to find)
> > 
> > Years ago I had a trans shop here locally (close to Seattle, WA) that had
> > pretty good person, and I performed much the same on a 83' Olds Cierra with
> > a 4.3l diesel (TH125c). Unfortunately that person has moved on.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > Thanks, David
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> David
>    Just install a toggle switch under the dash. You can keep the 
> convertor from locking up at all when the switch is off. We did this a 
> lot when lock up convertors first came out and people complained of the 
> lock/unlock surge which happened a lot during in town driving
> John Kelsey
> Dayton Ohio
> 
> 

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:39:41 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: RS has the 66 442 engine E-400

cook_robert@yahoo.com has first dibs at this time. Others may choose to take 
a number, get in line.

My brother says he will come up offa his for $600
E block, BV B heads, intake, presume no carb.
No xst mans
Prolly has flexplate on it. No MT flywheel for sure.
Used core motor.
I can ship Roadway or ABF freight, call them for price quote. Add $50 for 
palletizing and delivery to their terminal in Lansing.
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Chris Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:17:14 -0400
From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
Subject: Water Pumps List

I am about halfway thru the near-canonical list of Olds V8 Water Pumps

So far, we see:

There can be variations of boss-ID, part number, and crucial sizes.
Nothing is absolute.

Most 5.1" pumps have the larger 2.0" inlet nipple; excptions are #2 and #1

Most 5.6" pumps have the smaller 1.8" or 1+3/4" inet nipple; exceptions 
include "X"

All 6.1" pumps [thus far] have the 1.8" inlet.
6.1" pumps boss-ID vary: 4 [very common], 3, and "O" are all present.

Excel sheet available to those who need it, after I get done going over the 
ones I have in the garage. Inquire privately or I may never see it.
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1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

RocketScience442@hotmail.com

Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message.
Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:21:11 -0500
From: "Michelle Angus" <mangus@neb.rr.com>
Subject: 67 cutlass/442 stuff free

Since I received no interest when I tried to sell these things, lets see
if any one wants to just come pick them up. All items are for pickup
from my home. I will not ship free stuff. If nobody has spoken up for
them by Wednesday the 15th, they will go into the scrap hopper at work,
to be sent and recycled into a Honda or a Datsun for all I care.

67 442 hood
pair of hardtop doors with softray glass
trunklid
cowl panel with screen
power drum master cylinder/booster/combo valve setup


Save this stuff now, or see it go to the scrapper. Then you can complain
about how hard it is to find these parts later.

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:29:03 -0400
From: "Kurt" <wmachine@shubes.net>
Subject: RE: 67 cutlass/442 stuff free

Okay, but where are you?

Kurt mailto:wmachine@shubes.net
http://wmachines.shubes.net
'65 Jetstar 1 (4-speed)       '66 442 Sport Coupe (Tri-Carb, 4-speed)
'67 442 Convertible (4-speed) '69 442 Convertible (3-speed manual)
'92 Achieva SCX W-41(5-speed) '04 Expedition (no-speed)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Michelle Angus
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:21 PM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: 67 cutlass/442 stuff free
>
>
> Since I received no interest when I tried to sell these things, lets see
> if any one wants to just come pick them up. All items are for pickup
> from my home. I will not ship free stuff. If nobody has spoken up for
> them by Wednesday the 15th, they will go into the scrap hopper at work,
> to be sent and recycled into a Honda or a Datsun for all I care.
>
> 67 442 hood
> pair of hardtop doors with softray glass
> trunklid
> cowl panel with screen
> power drum master cylinder/booster/combo valve setup
>
>
> Save this stuff now, or see it go to the scrapper. Then you can complain
> about how hard it is to find these parts later.
>
>

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:49:09 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Olds stuff for sale

List,

I need to sell some stuff.

1) Exhaust manifolds as follows:

384784 RH from '66 425 big car. = $10.00
417754 RH from 403. = $10.00
411961 LH with very good heat stove from 403. = $15.00
398704 RH with badly rusted heat stove from 350. = $10.00
380001 LH from 350. = $10.00

2) Opticlean bottle and mounting bracket from a '65 A-body. Bottle is still
75% full. The 2 labels are mostly gone. = $10.00

3) '70 Olds 350 engine core with #6 heads. = $200.00

4) '68-'69 Olds 350 engine core with #5 heads. = $200.00

5) TH350 from a '77 Pontiac Grand Lemans 4-door, no converter. = $50.00

6) TH350 from a '77 Pontiac Firebird with converter. = $75.00

(I don't have a way to ship items 3 & 4. So I guess people in Arizona or
driving through would only be interested. I could ship items 5 & 6, but it
would be interesting.)

7) New gasoline hydrometers: two for aviation gas API 59 to 71. = $10.00
each

8) Sealed Power (new) RC-140 valve rotators, full set of 16 for an Olds
engine. = $20.00

9) Sealer Power (new) V1942 1.625" stainless steel Olds exhaust valve, one
only. = $4.00

10) Murray (new) #209606 AC condenser, 14" x 26". = $60.00

11) Clock block-off plate for '64-'65 A-body, excellent condition, two
different styles. = $2.00 each

12) Set of '65 A-body 14" hubcaps, some small dents. = $20.00

13) Acquiring a pile of Olds valve covers and accessory mounting brackets.
If you need something, I might have it.

Shipping is extra on all of the above.
Money orders or cashier's checks for payment.
Please respond privately.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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