
oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, October 21 2004     Volume 01 : Number 5066



Re: speaking of license suspensions..
Re: speaking of license suspensions
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
Re: museum visit
Re: museum visit
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
Re: Air Cleaner paint-Other Air Cleaner Question
Power Steering Service - Great Supplier!
RE: Power Steering Service - [Another] Great Supplier!
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
Re: OCA judging- Received
Re: speaking of license suspensions... long winded alert...
Re: fraud
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
RE: speaking of license suspensions
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
Re: speaking of license suspensions..
2 questions
Re: 2 questions
Long rods
Yoko or Kumho?
Re: Long rods

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:45:55 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

At Wednesday, 20 October 2004, you wrote:
>The closest I've come to being arrested regarding a sticker was in 
>North Carolina. I'd been pulled for an expired inspection (the 
>officer saying, "Boy, this is way out of date!" when it was only two 
>months past). I forgot to pay the fine in time (are we seeing a 
>pattern here?) and called the court. They said to just send in the 
>dough, which I did.

I NEVER, NEVER, NEVER will ever trust any govmint employee who says 
such a thing. I want hardcopy from now on. I don't rember what convinced 
me of that any longer but words no longer impress me: only hardcopy.


>I subsequently moved to Virginia and went to apply for a driver's 
>license. They said there was an outstanding arrest warrant for me for 
>a "failure to appear"  in North Carolina. DMV was surprisingly 
>cavalier about it and gave me a number to call in Raleigh. They 
>didn't show anything outstanding and eventually sent me a latter to 
>that effect for the DMV. Good thing I hadn't been pulled over in the 
>meantime!

Soon after moving to, and registering our vehicles in Mass, I received 
a notice to report for jury duty. I'm 90% deaf in one ear, 95% in 
the other. I can't hear in courtrooms even when I'm the defendent 
;o|  So I always reply "too deaf to hear what's going on" and they 
always give me a bye. Yer sposed to have to present a doc's statement/report 
but I've never had to; gess I look so deaf and dumb, they just accept 
my word  ;o)))))  So I did the same (wrote back saying I was deaf) 
when Mass tapped me and sure nuff, I received a postcard a few days 
later officially excusing me from jury duty.

Some four-plus years later, we've moved to Connecticut and are coming 
home from the grocery one night. Someone a few cars in front slams 
on their brakes, the car in front of me stops quick-inna-hurry, and 
I stop DAMB quick-inna-hurry with front bumper less than a millimeter 
from their rear. But the car in back that had been tailgating me 
stops kinda lackadaisically and taps the rear bumper of my fullsized 
wagon. Absolutely no damage to my wagon, not even a scratch on the 
vertical bumper protectors; but the whole plastic bumper cover of 
whatever-the-hell-it-was that tapped me cracked, fell off onto the 
street, and the idiot's nose went under my bumper then when they 
released their brakes, slammed back up into the bottom side of my 
bumper. That put a really impressive-looking crease across the idiot's 
hood and both front fenders. The idiot then put her car in REVERSE 
and pulled her front end out from under my bumper, scratching and 
tearing and gouging her fenders, hood, nose, and headlight assemblies.
Now, her headlights were illuminating the pavement right in front 
of her car like it was daylight  ;o)  So that idiot needed to file 
a cop report so the cars in front of me left and I and the idiot 
waited for the cops. God only knows what she thot she was doing when 
she put her car in reverse and yanked it backwards from mine.

Cops come, start writing reports, make their radio call-in on our 
licenses, then cop walks back to me and says Mass has an outstanding 
arrest warrant for me. It seems I didn't show up for jury duty  ;
o\  ;o\  ;o\   Telling the cop I'm gonna remove my wallet from back 
pocket to fish out the hardcopy postcard from Mass showing I was 
EXCUSED from jury duty, he lets me do so. Examines it closely, calls 
it in, tells me I'm real lucky to have saved that 4+ year old postcard,
and we finish the accident reports and go home  ;o\  ;o\  ;o\

I call the damb Mass courthouse, get their FAX number, and FAX them 
a hardcopy of both sides of the postcard to get that warrant removed.
Never heard from them agin.

At least, I *HOPE* it's been removed  ;o\  Never did receive hardcopy 
that it had. Haven't been pulled over by a cop to find out the hard 
way, either.

Yanno where that postcard is right now?

Yup, right there in my wallet in my back pocket, still. I never leave 
home without it; they'll probly bury me with it still there  ;o\ 
;o\  ;o\

SteveH



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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:48:52 -0400
From: SteveH <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions

At Wednesday, 20 October 2004, you wrote:
>In Virginia Beach, we no longer have a city tax sticker. 
>And, since my Cutlass is registered as an antique vehicle, 
>I'm exempt from state inspection as well. Finally, no 
>stickers at all on the windshield.

OBOY....  if the rest of the state still does have stickers, though,
I think I'd be awfully concerned bout driving the car anywhere else.
I don't think I ever did manage to drive a car more than twice with 
an expired sticker before being pulled over by one of Fairfax's so-
called finest; they were the very pits to encounter without the right 
stickers.

SteveH



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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:21:29 -0400
From: "JOHN ORR" <jorr@paylessequipment.com>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

   again Milton,   well said....

Way too many times, the government that we have created totally forgets that
we created it, and government of the people, by the people, and for the
people becomes just a useless catch phrase.

john
67 cutlass supreme 4 speed

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:26:25 EDT
From: JonKrisInc@aol.com
Subject: Re: museum visit

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that?
 
 
Bruce
75  Delta 88 Conv. (duals, of course)
72 Cutlass Conv.
56 190 SL Conv.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:47:12 -0400
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@postoffice.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: museum visit

At 09:26 AM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
>The 2005 Cadillac STS AWD claims to have THREE differentials. What's up 
>with that?

One in each axle and one in the transfer-case. Nothing too special about 
that; the first four-wheel drive vehicles in the beginning of the 20th 
century had a central differential in addition to one in each axle, as did 
the Jeep Quadratrac in 1973 and many others since then.


_______________________________________
Bob Barry  MailTo:rbarry@providence.edu
http://home.off-road.com/~wagoneer/ 

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:52:29 -0400
From: "Zito, James A (GE Energy)" <james.zito@ps.ge.com>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

From Steve H
Never heard of that. Every state I've moved to, I've had to change
insurance carriers and they have ALL gone by my driving record wherever I
lived or had lived. That's very easy nowadays in particular since every
state shares records.


Depends on the carrier, I have been with USAA since about 89, they are
licensed to write policies throughout the US and even were able to cover me
in the ROK.  Of course they cater primarily to military folks.

Some carriers like GEIKO can't write in some states, I think they can't in
MA.

Jim
69 442 conv

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodney Kohler <srprojmgr4u@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Air Cleaner paint-Other Air Cleaner Question

While we are on this subject does anyone have a 1970
442 with a STOCK air cleaner on it? Could they send me
a picture offline @ 

srprojmgr4u@yahoo.com

What would be the color  and what is the mix. Also
what decals are on it?

In advance thank you.

Rodney K.
1970 442 Post Coupe
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>  
> I am redoing the air cleaner on my 68 H/O
>  
> Is the paint supposed to be gloss black?    or  60% 
> gloss?   
>  
> Thanks 
>  
> Vinny
> 68 H/O  with a  new  air cleaner
>  
> Rev.Vincent Buonfiglio
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:56:40 -0400
From: "Paul Tumolo" <ptumolo@comcast.net>
Subject: Power Steering Service - Great Supplier!

I had my steering box and power steering pump rebuilt by Chip Woyner. 

Great work, service, communications. 

Highly recommended!!!! 

www.powersteering.com 

417-864-6676

Paul Tumolo 

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:16:57 -0400
From: Tom Bejma <tomcb@prplastics.com>
Subject: RE: Power Steering Service - [Another] Great Supplier!

Paul,

Why not use our Mailing List discount at Steer and Gear? [see below]

> > Last year at this time I set up a discount for steering gear 
> > box rebuilds from a place called Steer & Gear in Coloumbus,
> > Ohio. I just got off the phone with him and our discount is
> > still good.  I am sending him a box for his firm feel
> > conversion and rebuild/reseal.
> > The firm feel conversion is where he changes the torsion rod, 
> > (I think thats correct) in the box.
> > He can also change the ratio if you want that.
> > 
> > The prices are:
> > 
> > Firm feel conversion and rebuild is $125.00, regular price 
> is $165.00
> > The faster ratio and firm feel rebuild is $165.00, regular $ 210.00
> > 
> > Call Tom at 1-(800) 253-4327, tell him that your from the 
> > Olds internet list.
> > 
> > Joe Walters
> > 73 H/O

I ended up with the quick ratio re-built box for $125 including shipping!
Chip gets $229 plus shipping.  Glad someone's got money to burn, it's
certainly not me.

Tom Bejma
Harrison Twp., MI
69 Cutlass S Convertible


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Tumolo [mailto:ptumolo@comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:57 AM
> To: Oldsmobile-Digest
> Subject: Power Steering Service - Great Supplier!
> 
> 
> I had my steering box and power steering pump rebuilt by Chip Woyner. 
> 
> Great work, service, communications. 
> 
> Highly recommended!!!! 
> 
> www.powersteering.com 
> 
> 417-864-6676
> 
> Paul Tumolo 
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:07:40 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:16:54 -0700
> From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..
> 
> And the more cars you have, the more difficult the mathematical mix. 

So are you saying we're paying more for having multiple vehicles because 
doing the math makes the agent's head hurt?

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:20:24 -0700
From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: OCA judging- Received

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:26:16 -0400
> From: "Christopher Witt" <rocketscience442@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: OCA judging- Received

> Second Place!  with 856 points!

> We'll take a nice 2nd place upon debut, and then driver her a lot instead!

Great job Chris! A second place finisher with high marks AND a driver, too! 

You, sir, are my hero. 

Kenneth
1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
Phoenix, AZ

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:00:31 -0400
From: <1979hurstolds@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions... long winded alert...

Howdy Gang...

As long as this topic has come up on the list, I'd like to ask a few
questions.  I am seriously contemplating a major move soon - well in the
next year or so.  East Tennessee has been good to me... but I've now stayed
in one spot longer than anywhere else in my life.  Well there just aren't
the jobs around here that I'd like either... still stuck delivering pizzas
as it is one of the better paying jobs in the area!  Also I'd like to go
back to school and finish up my degree at a University where the
administration actually administers instead of the type here where you fill
out 10 copies of the same paperwork before they finally file it!  Really
happened to me!  Anyways... I'm originally from the West Coast (LA born) and
I'm thinking of heading back west.  I have family in  SoCal and the Las
Vegas NV / Kingman AZ area and a couple of good friends in Seattle so these
three areas are pretty high on my list.  Well - I hate Las Vegas though so
that's out but either Flagstaff or Phoenix would be nice.  So I know there's
some guys from all these areas on the list and I'm hoping some of you could
write me privately and go over some of the particulars of vehicle
registration and hopefully also give me a few pro's and con's of your
particular city.  I'm certainly not planning on bringing my entire fleet of
vehicles cross-country... most of them will probably end up sold and I'll
use the money to help finance the move.  At least one or more will probably
end up in local dry storage (perhaps at my mother's place).  Basically the
number of cars I bring will be heavily determinate on the type of area I
move to if I move to the CITY as in the middle of town obviously having more
than one or two vehicles could get very expensive very quickly, more to edge
of town I could probably have two or three cars without too much trouble.
The best setup I think would be having a truck, a "driving" car, and my '79
Hurst.  For the truck I have my '94 Ranger... and for the "driving" car I
have either my '91 Caprice 9C1 or my '85 Delta 88.  What would be the
emmissions requirements for these vehicles?  The Hurst is 25 years old this
year... is it exempt anywhere?

I believe that Tennessee is the easiest state in the country to register a
vehicle in so I'm not used to dealing with these issues.  In Tennesse to
register a vehicle you take your title / previous registration to the tag
office... pay your fees... (about 30 dollars a year plus about 10 dollars
and also taxes on purchase price if needing a new title plus county wheel
tax sticker if applicable which is normally about 30 bucks also but they
don't have them in the county I live in).  Then BAM!  You have tags... no
inspections (except for Nashville, Memphis I think)... no proof of insurance
(but you better have it if you get pulled over by the police).  It is not
required that you keep insurance on vehicles you are not driving, but it is
required that you have insurance on any vehicle which you drive and the fine
is pretty hefty.  There is no state regulation on keeping registration on
vehicles you are not driving but there are some city / county requirement
througout the state.  In Johnson City for instance, where I used to live,
the city police can sticker a vehicle for removal if there is no
registration - they give you 10 days after its stickered before they remove
it - unless it is blocking or partially blocking a roadway or if the officer
considers it a hazard, in which case removal is immediate.  This really
isn't that big a deal though as all that's required to slap a registration
on that vehicle in Johnson City are the fees I mentioned above.  Tennessee
doesn't try to hide various taxes as fines... they make their taxes really
obvious... for instance the tax rate on purchases in Johnson City is 9.5 %!
Tennessee has been cracking down on those who are dishonest when quoting the
purchase price on a vehicle.  Now when you try to register a vehicle quoting
less than the book value of it, they hand you some paperwork that must be
filled out and signed by the previous owner detailing reasons for the low
purchase price... which can be a real PITA if you don't know the previous
owner or if the vehicles has gone a long time since last registered.  On one
car I had bought there was no way to contact the PO (I had bought it through
another individual than listed on the title) I was given this paperwork at
the tag office... I just went to the other tag office (there's two in
Washington County) and had changed the '150' on the back of the title to
'450' and they let me register it at that without the paperwork.  So I ended
up paying 30 dollars worth of taxes that I should not of by right had to pay
but was much easier than trying to track down the PO.

Later Gang...
Clayton Pierce,
1979hurstolds@earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:47:37 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: fraud

Bob,

Go to http://www.ic3.gov/ and http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp . Those 2
websites should provide you with the info you need to know.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <macs63rd@iols.com>
To: "olds" <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 3:01 AM
Subject: fraud


> Who was it that posted a web site on fraud and who to write to in the FBI
> Thanks   Bob
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:27:17 -0500
From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

On Oct 20, 2004, at 5:36 AM, oldsmobile-digest wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:41:34 -0700
> From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
> Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..
>
>> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:50:34 -0500
>> From: Kevin Wright <krwright@sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..
>>
>> Man, you Yankees sure put up with a lot of crap.
>> That kinda BS legislation would be shot down in an instant here in TX
>> (I hope!)
>
> You must not remember what went on in Texas when mandatory liability 
> insurance
> was going into effect in the '90s. There was a push for mandatory 
> insurance for
> ALL licensed drivers, even if they didn't own a vehicle! My agent said 
> they had
> non-owners policies "in the event someone drove a borrowed vehicle". 
> Now how
> ridiculous is that. Or should I say "how greedy is that". Why the heck 
> would a
> person without a vehicle, who had a license for ID purposes only, pay 
> for a policy?

But, see, there was just 'talk' of it. It didn't come to pass. For one 
thing, it would have been challenged in court eventually.
Scary enough that they even considered it, though.
Insurance has always bugged the tar out of me anyway, what with rates 
going up if you so much as sneeze in the car, and all. As others have 
said, it's a racket. I'll go farther and call it legalized, state 
supported extortion, though a necessary evil, I suppose.
>
On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...

Kevin Wright                                         
krwright@sbcglobal.net
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                             
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/70Olds.html

'71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans: 
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars/olds/71_cutlass.html

Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31! 
And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :)
...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be 
parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:46:53 -0400
From: "BsCaBl" <bscabl@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: RE: speaking of license suspensions

In ny they have a registraition sticker on the driver side and inspection
[color coded, with a big barcode] right next to it...the reg sticker has
your vin and plate [tag] number on it.. 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca 
> [mailto:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Jay Britt
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:34 AM
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions
> 
> From: John Livingston <johnliving@cox.net>
> They can be death on the stickers, it's true. I've been 
> pulled over for expired inspections (until I discovered the 
> joys of desktop publishing) and even got a $100 fine for 
> failure to display a city tax sticker
> -----
> In Virginia Beach, we no longer have a city tax sticker. And, 
> since my Cutlass is registered as an antique vehicle, I'm 
> exempt from state inspection as well. Finally, no stickers at 
> all on the windshield.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:36:35 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

Milt, I read the whole letter, and frankly my first response to myself, " it
figures, that's California for ya"! My most heartfelt condolences to you and
your family.
Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..


> > It has been proven over and over again,
> > those who want to drive without what the law requires will. Just like
> those
> > who think that they can drive drunk with no problem will. Heck, over
here
> > the DUI problem is so bad that even when the hard cores get their cars
> taken
> > away, all they need is another 250$ for some POS, and they are back on
the
> > road again,. no law except incarceration stops them.
>
>
> Okay, since we're using up bandwidth and jawboning about stupid government
> and its failure to serve the public, I'll throw this one at you.
>
> It even has Olds content, for Glen loved to ride in Thunder Lizard. I also
> taught him to be a crack shot, just like my parents and Uncle Russ did
with
> me.
>
> You see, there are more 9/11s than one might know.
>
> 1730, 11 September 1994, Murphys, CA. - My 11 year old grandson, Glen
> William Brascugli McCormick Hirsch, was wearing his Boy scout uniform and
> riding his bike to his monthly Boy Scout meeting. He was 4 feet outside
the
> right of the shoulder of the roadway, plenty of distance away from normal
> traffic. He knew how to be safe.
>
> An individual was cruising down the road in a Ford Bronco, with 3 cars
> trailing him. They would be the primary witnesses. The individual had a
DUI
> conviction 8 years prior, but we all know he just hadn't been caught since
> then. People who drink and drive never stop their drinking and driving. He
> was drinking a mixture of 50% Sprite and 50% Tequila from a mason jar. His
> previously smoked MJ joint butts were rolling around under his front seat.
>
> He saw Glen riding his bike. He fixated on Glen. He drove toward Glen. He
> drove through Glen at 45 MPH. Glen was killed.
>
> He recoiled reacted and lost control and crashed in the median. An
off-duty
> Murphy's cop just happened to be at the convenience store on the other
side
> of the road. The cop took the driver into custody and secured the mason
jar
> for the California Highway Patrol.
>
> When this happened, I was on my way to Las Vegas and the 1994 Soldier of
> Fortune Convention. When I got to the hotel, the staff told me to call
home,
> instantly. Mary told me what happened. She and Glen's stepdad's parents
were
> immediately flying to Murphys. I was to stay in Vegas until Sunday morning
> and then fly to Murphys.
>
> After I talked to Mary, I called the Tucson Police Department. It was then
> 2215. I told the desk Sargent that I needed to contact my close friend,
> Marty Fuentes, the best damn traffic detective in the American Southwest.
> Marty is the man responsible for getting the penalty for death by DUI
raised
> to Second Degree Homicide in Arizona. Marty called me at the hotel 15
> minutes later.
>
> Marty contacted CHP the next day and offered his help. They accepted. The
> bottom line of the case was this:
> First, the driver was dead-to-rights. Way too many witnesses and the
> physical evidence was monumental.
> Second, if this DUI accident had happened in Arizona, Marty knew he could
> charge the driver with Second Degree Homicide and make it stick. That
meant
> a minimum sentence upon conviction of 25 years. In Arizona, one must serve
> 85% of their time before being eligible for parole.
> Third, however in California, the charge was only vehicular manslaughter,
> which is less of a charge than standard manslaughter. Maximum sentence
upon
> conviction was only 4 years. In California, one only has to serve 50% of
> their time before being eligible for parole.
>
> So, the driver was convicted. He had been held in the county jail for 6
> months before his trial. But then, the sentencing hearing was to be 3
months
> later. The rumor was the judge was going to impose only 2 years. We
started
> a letter writing campaign to demand 4 years. I'll brag. I got letters sent
> from staff and faculty at the University of Arizona where I worked. I got
> letters sent from NASA. I got letters sent from Picatinny Arsenal, Dover,
> NJ. And finally, I got letters sent from both Charlie Company, 3rd
> Battalion, 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) and 5th Special Forces
Group
> Command Staff.
>
> When Mike, Glen's stepfather, met with the county prosecutor, he wanted to
> know just who-in-the-Hell Mike knew, for the prosecutor had a stack of
> letters from all over the country demanding Glen's murderer get the
maximum
> sentence of 4 years. There were 375 letters for one 11 year old boy.
>
> On the day of the sentencing hearing, Glen's entire Boy Scout troop showed
> up in uniform to observe. Everyone in law enforcement was on the same page
> and in line and the unified request to the judge was a sentence of 4
years.
> The judge was even given the 375 letters. It didn't matter. The judge
> sentenced Glen's murderer to 2 years, counted the 9 months time served,
and
> he was out in 3 months, with 50% time served, and on parole for one year.
I
> was a bit concerned I had taught Glen's mother, Beth, too well, but she
did
> not go hunting with her 9mm. Maybe that's it. I did teach Beth too well,
> including the code of Honor my Uncle Russ taught me. So, she didn't go
> hunting.
>
> Way too many times, the government that we have created totally forgets
that
> we created it, and government of the people, by the people, and for the
> people becomes just a useless catch phrase.
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> imp@theriver.com
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:53:24 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

Excellent thought, however most of them aren't even that smart. Now it's the
computer and all the geewhiz Ins. statistical info that has been programmed
in from the time of Jesus to now. Only it's you that gets Crucified this
time if you answer one of the questions wrong on the ( theirs no wrong
answer Mr. Schopen) Ins. application form!
Rick Messenger
76 98 LS Coupe
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From: "Schopen, Kenneth" <kenneth.schopen@medtronic.com>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..


> > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:16:54 -0700
> > From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
> > Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..
> >
> > And the more cars you have, the more difficult the mathematical mix.
>
> So are you saying we're paying more for having multiple vehicles because
> doing the math makes the agent's head hurt?
>
> Kenneth
> 1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible
> Phoenix, AZ
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:05:10 -0700
From: "Rick & Roxanne" <aremessenger@icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

I just re-newed my "driving privilege" license, and just for the heck of it
grabbed a Washington State drivers law handbook. Things have changed since I
last read the book. Now, if you get pulled over for even a light out, and
they ask for you Ins. card, and you can't prove Ins.; they suspend your
license, and fine the hell out of you, and can even require you to take the
exam over again. And there are some more teeth in this as well, but I won't
bore you any more.

Did you get hurt any Joe?

Rick Messenger
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe & Gloria Varley" <carcouple@cox.net>
To: <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..


> Damn, what a timely subject.  This morning I was driving our company '01
> Chevy 3/4 ton van, and an illegal, driving his bosses POS Ford pickup
> pulling a POS landscape trailer changed lanes and trashed the van.  He
> wiped out the L door, LF fender, removed the front bumper, cut up both
> front tires, bent the LF wheel, bent the suspension, and broke the
> windshield.  I stopped, he stopped in front of me, and when I was quickly
> talking to the guy behind me who witnessed it all and said the guy changed
> lanes and hit me, the jerk took off.  Not knowing the front wheels were
> pidgeon- toed and the bumper was hanging by 2 bolts in the street, I
jumped
> back in and chased him in traffic.  Must have been a
> sight............bumper dragging in the street, sparks flying, tires
> squealing while trying to "fight" each other.  Anyway, I caught him 3
> blocks later, witness followed and gave me his info.  The cops asked him a
> question and he answered in English, but when they asked him for license,
> registration, and proof of insurance all they got was "No hable Englais",
> or some such shit. Cop was really getting pissed with the guy and then I
> told the cop it was a hit and run, that it happened 3 blocks away.  Cop
> grabbed him, cuffed him and stuffed him---felony hit and run. The van has
> about $3,500.00 in damage, is in the body shop, and I get to pay our
> $500.00 deductible, unless the truck owner pays for the damages, like he
> said he would.  Yeah, riiiiiiiight!!
>
> Anyway, this is my 4th time with an illegal hitting me. One destroyed my
> '64 F85 wagon which was totally original, and had won a 1st in the
original
> at the OCA Nats a month before.  Got hurt in that one.  Another hit my
> father in law head on after running from an accident and killed him in
'99.
> Point is, I wish AZ was stricter on these morons with no insurance. They
> buy insurance, get tags, and cancel the insurance.  When I hear your
> stories of other states, I am sorta envious of how tough they are in other
> states.
>
> Joe Varley
>       AZ
>
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:51:25 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Re: speaking of license suspensions..

At 05:03 AM 10/20/2004 -0400, John Livingston wrote:
>They said to just send in the dough, which I did.

Years ago, my wife got a ticket in South Carolina, right as we were moving 
to Oklahoma.  She called the court, who could find no record of her ever 
receiving a ticket, but said "send in the money anyway". Yeah, right.  Just 
over a year later, she was arrested in Oklahoma for driving on a suspended 
license from SC.

SteveH wrote:
I NEVER, NEVER, NEVER will ever trust any govmint employee who says such a 
thing.

I'd be inclined to agree with Steve. (except in SC)


Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: JEFFREY LISLE <jeffslisle@yahoo.com>
Subject: 2 questions

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Hi all,
My first question is about my convertible plastic window.  It is foggy and I cant see out of it, I tried mequirs plastic cleaner and polish it cleaned it a little but still cant see!  Does any one make a glass window replacement for the 65 Cutlass?  Or is there some miracle to getting a faded platic window clear again?  
2nd I have a 350 Chevy in my Cutlass (I know boo, but I am in Okinawa, Japan and a Olds motor is hard to come by) I think the motor is 1972 since I got it out of a 72 Chevelle, any way I am trying to time it perfect and was wondering if any one had a good timing setting?  The weather/ elevation here is the same as in Florida.  Or do I just have to play with it till it runs right?  Ok I have 1 more question, does anyone have a good 65 Cutlass front bumber that could ship to Japan?  Thanks Jeff

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:40:11 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: 2 questions

> I am trying to time it perfect and was wondering if any one had a good
timing setting?  The weather/ elevation here is the same as in Florida.  Or
do I just have to play with it till it runs right?


Start out at 8 degrees advanced and then play with it until she runs right.
Check to see if you are running manifold vacuum or ported vacuum to the
vacuum advance on the distributor. You want the vacuum advance *not*
activated when you set the initial timing. You can tell quickly by
disconnecting the vacuum line to the distributor and see if the engine idle
changes and if the timing mark moves on the crank. If it does, you have
manifold vacuum. If it doesn't, you have ported vacuum off of the carb.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@therivber.com

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:57:58 -0700
From: Mark Mullins <mark@marineaviation.org>
Subject: Long rods

It's been about 3 weeks since we had any discussion on long rods.  I found 
more good reading in the following article:

http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/cam-tech-c.htm

(plz excuse the mopar content)

Mark Mullins
Tucson, Az

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:48:18 +0000
From: Steve Harrison <k0xp@dandy.net>
Subject: Yoko or Kumho?

I need four new tires for my '83 'Bu wagon. I've got four 14" stock wheels
and two Olds 15" SSIIIs, so can either go four 14" pencil erasers or two of
them plus a pair of something like 205/75 or 215/70-15s. Tirerack.com's
prices on Yokos and Kumhos are reasonable but they only have a good
selection of those sizes in Avid Touring. Kumho only has a good selection
in the Touring A/S 795 series.

Anybody had experience with those series on A/G bodies? I'm looking for
mainly stock height in the front but don't mind going a bit wider or taller
in the back. Can't go real tall in the back as the present 215/75-15s come
within 1/2" of the front lower edge of the wheelwell lip  ;o\

Suggestions or comments or opinions?

I'm also looking for another pair of 15" 4-3/4"-pattern wheels, preferable
SSIIIs like I got from a '77 Cutlass Yarde car; anyone (preferably in the
New England area)?

Thanks,
SteveH

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:45:11 -0700
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <imp@theriver.com>
Subject: Re: Long rods

> It's been about 3 weeks since we had any discussion on long rods.  I found
> more good reading in the following article:
>
> http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/cam-tech-c.htm
>
> (plz excuse the mopar content)


Not a problem. They provided good examples.

Mark,

I put both the website in favorites and saved the entire article in
WordPerfect in my engine files.

It was very interesting, but it seemed the author spent more time discussing
shorter rod/stroke ratios, until he got down to the MOPAR engine examples,
which all have long rod/stroke ratios.

However, the equation concerning piston acceleration was useful. I used it
to look at the differences between both a 455 and a 425 engine. The
better/longer rod/stroke ratio and shorter stroke of a 425 had definite
advantages over a 455, even if the 455 had 7" 425 rods. I have experienced
cylinder wall flex at high RPM in a 455 bored out 0.125" before, but I
didn't realize that I had also been experiencing ring flutter with the 1/16"
compression rings that were being used. I had a 143,771 foot per second, per
second piston acceleration at 7500, using stock 6 3/4" rods. Not good at
all. Piston acceleration at 6300 with 7" rods was at the limit with 100,410
f/s/s, which is at the power peak anyway.

An Olds small block only has a piston acceleration of 71,395 f/s/s at 6000.
That's extremely good for keeping the rings stable in the big bore of a 403.

Let's see, the piston acceleration of an old 394 Olds at 7000 is 104,288
f/s/s. A 394 has a rod/stroke ratio of 1.898. I guess that illustrates one
reason the old 394 was a great drag race engine, particularly when injected
and/or blown on alcohol or nitro-methane.

Mark, this info just may be useful in the future, which just may include a
couple of Olds big block 438s (425 + 0.060") and a 409 (403 + 0.030") for
me.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
imp@theriver.com

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