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oldsmobile-digest           Tuesday, 6 May 1997        Volume 01 : Number 648

Any bored artists still here?
Re: '78 Olds Delta 88, suspension tips
Re: rear differential
Netscape 4.0 Users
cleaning calcium deposit from glass
Re: 425's   (+ small V.C. reference)
1967 Service Bulletins For Sale (5/5)
1964 original colors
H/O aero & new PA tags
Re: rear differential
Re: cleaning calcium deposit from glass
Re: Stripe Options (fwd)
[none]
Back after a long break !
Re: '78 Olds Delta 88, suspension tips
What G.T.O. means
Re: New England get together
Re: New England get together
[none]
50's Olds
Re: blockhugger headers, olds
G-body interior chrome
Re: Getting the boot.
correction
Goodbye for now.
Re: Getting the boot.
Re: cleaning calcium deposit from glass
Re: HESITATION WHEN ACCELERATING/75 350/4 BBL.
Re: Testing list    Ignore and trash
1964 V.C. Hood Letters - A Challenge!

Re: HESITATION WHEN ACCELERATING/75 350/4 BBL.
Attention!!! All 70 442 W-30 owners
Re: cleaning calcium deposit from glass
Posi Differentials and Synthetic Gear Lube
GTO means....
Test: please ignore
Re: H/O aero
Clutch (fwd) & Tires
A/C Ooops
Fuel Filter Flare Nut
Re: Musclecars collectors cards
Picture of 1970 Olds Cutlass, Convertible, Red, White Top, Rally Wheels
Re: Test: please ignore
Re: New England get together
Re: Re[2]: Musclecars collectors cards
Re: H/O aero
RE:1970 OLDS VIN
steering wheel
Re: 1970 cutlass hood
Stolen 442
recommendations for 2.25 exhaust
Re: Stolen 442
Stolen 442
Rockit ran again
Re: New England get together
Re: Catalytic converter
Re: Clutch (fwd) & Tires
A/C repair
Re: Stolen 442
Re: Rockit ran again

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From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 02:31:45 -0300
Subject: Any bored artists still here?

     Hey, any of you artistically talented peoples want to try your hand at
making my high school dream car look normal?  I just found some old sketches
I'd done around 1988 or so, and had scanned onto my hard drive.  Check 'em
out, if anyone's interested.

http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner/IROCOLDS.JPG


             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

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From: mjones@dragon.gleep.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 03:11:22 -0300
Subject: Re: '78 Olds Delta 88, suspension tips

;L>------------------------------
:L>From: Eric Aksomitis <aksomi@cs.uregina.ca>
:L>Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 12:41:04 -0300
HL>Subject: Re: '78 Olds Delta 88, suspension tips
OL>On Sun, 4 May 1997 mjones@gleep.com wrote:
OL>> I've posted before, but I don't believe anybody recieved my message.  I
OL>> own a '78 Olds Delta 88 2 door coupe (350R/TH350).  I know these cars
OL>> are not very popular in the performance and handling dept. but I would
OL>> like some info on suspension tips, mostly where I can get a hold of some
OL>Yeah, but wouldn't one of those in high tune really make people look when
OL>their stairing at your tail-lights.  I've always liked those cars, but
OL>never seen one that went fast (it always amazes me how much more a 77-80
OL>88 costs then a 75-76 of the same model)
OL>>

Heh, mine was $2000, it had 61k on it (man was 82 yrs old when I bought
it :)

OL>> Also I have a few questions about the 400-425-455 big blocks, mostly
OL>> I know one will bolt into my cavernous engine bay on the stock mounts,
OL>> but what brackets should I go with if I do attempt this 'swap'?  The car
OL>> is a California car (unfortunately :P) and has a smog pump and plenty of
OL>> good...  Is it less expensive to go the 425 or the 455?
OL>A 455, in my guess, would be you're best bet, since you could probably
OL>buy a perfect running 74-76 Olds 88/98 fully loaded with working options
OL>for scrap-metal price (I know that's what they sell for here).  I believe
OL>most mounts either interchange or come with two holes for the higher 455.

OL>Remember, winning a race is 800000% more fun when your car doesn't look
OL>like it should win.

I'm not even sure if I'm doing this right, but I'll find out (replying
that is) I found out PST makes a 1" rear sway bar and a 1 1/8" front
sway bar for my vehicle, but I believe they want $160 for it, which is
too much right now, considering i'm in college and working.  I may just
end up rebuilding a small block for my 88, perhaps another 350 or maybe
a 403 but I don't care for the 403's 'windowed' main webs.

Mike Jones mjones@gleep.com

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From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:42:01 -0300
Subject: Re: rear differential

At 07:15 PM 5/4/97 -0300, you wrote:
>James do you have the figures for the 1970 axles?
>Corey D
>dayc@ix.netcom.com
>1970 Cutlass S



Corey

        Here are the 70 Codes:

3100-4400 Series (Exc. W-30, W-31, and W-27)
                 Std. Rear       Anti-Spin
2.56               R2                 R3
2.78               SA                SB
3.08               SC                SD
3.23               SE                SF
3.42                --                  SH
3.91                --                  SJ

3100-4400 Series (With W-30, W-31 W/O W-27)
3.42                --                  TM
3.91                --                  TO

3100-4400 Series (With W-27)
3.23                --                  SV
3.42                --                  SX
3.91                --                  SZ

There's your info.

Jim Chermack

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From: Thomas Martin <marttj@pcmail1.css.mot.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:25 -0300
Subject: Netscape 4.0 Users

This is not directly Olds related, but related none the less.  If you
are using Netscape 4.0 or a emailer that allow mail to be sent as HTML
or Rich Text, please turn that feature off when sending to this or any
lists.   This shows all the HTML tags that are not hidden when viewed by
most emailers.  Even Netcape 4.0, unless the entire message is written
that way.

To change this in Netscape 4.0, goto mail edit (pull down menu),
Preferences, Messages, then the first line is "By default, send HTML
messages ", Unselect this feature.


Thanks

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme 307

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From: Jim Hoekendijk <jim.hoekendijk@pi.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:12:26 -0300
Subject: cleaning calcium deposit from glass

I finally have my Vista Cruiser roof glass, from a junkyard.
Now I have one small problem. There is a stubborn deposit on them which I
can't seem to get off. I think it's calcium, from dried-up rain, but I'm not
sure.
I've tried all kind of things like i.e. vinegar, but nothing seems to work
properly. A razorblade works, but is a lot of work.
Any suggestions?

Jim Hoekendijk, 1964 F-85 Cutlass Vista Cruiser

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From: Jim Hoekendijk <jim.hoekendijk@pi.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:12:22 -0300
Subject: Re: 425's   (+ small V.C. reference)

Karl,

I'm the one that's (still) looking for (1964) Vista Cruiser scripts! Among
other things, like the "oldsmobile" hood letters.
Here in The Netherlands I can't get a hold of Hemming's (yet).
So, please, tell me all about it!

Jim Hoekendijk, 1964 F-85 Cutlass Vista Cruiser

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From: "Thomas G. Stoner" <tgstoner@umich.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:18:50 -0300
Subject: 1967 Service Bulletins For Sale (5/5)

I have the following Oldsmobile related item which I would like to sell:

A group of 1967 Oldsmobile Dealer Information and Dealer Technical
Bulletins:

Bulletin  Pages  Topic
67-I-2      1    1967 Pre-Delivery Inspection & Adjustment Check Sheet
67-I-4      1    Early Product Information Report
67-I-8A     1    Warranty on Power Pac Conversion Unit and Tape
Cartridges
67-I-9     1    Revision of Warranty Claim Credit Memo Form (3 copies)
67-I-10     3    Multiple Adjustments on Repair Order Warranty Claim
Forms
67-I-11     2    Automatic Temperature Control (Comfortron Tester
J-22368) (3)
67-I-12     2    Protect-O-Plate Imprint on Warranty Claim Forms (3
copies)
67-I-19     1    Carburetor Float Adjustment (1967 and Prior Models) (3
copies)
67-I-20     2    Toronado Tow Bar Assembly
67-I-21     1    Warranty Claims Returned to the Dealer for Correction
(3)
67-I-22     1    Plain Arm Bolts, Part No. 579197 in Dealer Service
Stock
67-I-24     2    Change of Warranty Validation Interval (2 copies)
67-I-25     8    Procuring Warranty Repair Service on Borg and General
                  (Westclox) Electric Clocks (3 copies)
67-I-29     1    10W40 Engine Oil
67-I-30     1    Radial Ply Tire Pressures (Toronado & 442) (2 copies)
67-I-32     1    Key Code Recording (3 copies)
67-I-33     1    Validation Requirements on 1967 Model Oldsmobiles
67-T-2      2    4MV Choke Adjustment - 1967 Toronado
67-T-3      2    Incorrect Comfortron Leakdown Plug - 1967 Toronado
67-T-5      2    98 Headlamp Door Removal
67-T-6      2    Transmission Oil Foaming - Turbo Hydra-Matic
67-T-7      2    Turbo Hydra-Matic - No Upshift Cold
67-T-9      2    Upper Radiator Hose Interference - F-85
67-T-10    11    Checking Steering Column for Accident Damage
67-T-11     1    Broken Mode Door Vacuum Valve Springs (2 copies)
67-T-12     4    Trouble Shooting UHV Ignition System K-66 Option
67-T-13     2    Hood Latch Adjustment (F-85)
67-T-14     2    Wiring Harness Interference (88 & 98) (2 copies)
67-T-15     1    Power Window Motor Replacement (1966 & 1967)
67-T-16     2    Toronado Cruise Control Dial Loose (2 copies)
67-T-17     4    Weather Checking Firestone F70-14 Red Wall Early
Production
                   Wide Oval Tires
67-T-18     3    Toronado Drive Axle Shudder (2 copies)
67-T-19     3    Substituted Engine Parts - 1967 330 Cu. In. Engines
67-T-22     2    Cruise Control Regulator Parts Kit Usage (1966 88, 98,
                   Toronado & 1967 Toronado)

77 pages of service information for 1967 Oldsmobiles, not detailed
elsewhere in service or owners manuals.  $25.00, including shipping to
any address in North America.  (5/5/97)

Notify me directly at tgstoner@umich.edu if you would like to purchase
this group of bulletins, or if you would like additional information
about them.  Thank you.

          ===
+======= | | | = Tom Stoner =======================+
|        | | |   OCA ª3943                         |
|        |/|\|   Ann Arbor, Michigan               |
|        | | |   1979 Hurst/Olds (It's for sale!)  |
|         ===    tgstoner@umich.edu                |
+==================================================+

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From: Jim Hoekendijk <jim.hoekendijk@pi.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:12:24 -0300
Subject: 1964 original colors

Greg, Paul & others,

Thanks for the info concerning the colors and ª's.
The garage that's working on my car uses AKZO ª's, but I'll find a way to
convert the given ª's (maybe somewhere on internet?).
In the ª's you've given me, what is R.M. short for?

BTW, Greg, I've allready contacted David, who found a '64 F-85. It doesn't
have the hood letters anymore..., but a lot of other usefull parts, among
which is also the hood top molding. David is really helping me out. Since I
live in Europe, there are not much junkyards with american cars, let alone a
'64 F-85.
David will sent me the goods I need.

Thanks again. I'll let you know what color I pick, I haven't made up my mind
yet!

Jim Hoekendijk, 1964 F-85 Cutlass Vista Cruiser
Jim Hoekendijk
Badhuisweg 60
7314 EE  Apeldoorn
The Netherlands
Tel:    +31 55 522 63 59
Mobile: +31 65 460 51 77
E-mail: jim.hoekendijk@pi.net

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From: "SZYMKOWSKI.FRANK" <FBS3@OAS.PSU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:29:00 -0300
Subject: H/O aero & new PA tags

FYI- I know somwone who just came from the Taladega racetrack museum
and low and behold they have an H/O aero on display.
On another note-- I just found out over the weekend that Pa has a new series
auto tag that looks like old CA black and yellow tag. It is called the
'Collector vehicle' tags. It is for cars that are mofified that would not fit
under the 'Classic' tags in Pa. The best part is that there is *NO* emissions
inspection and it can go all the way up up late models.
A slick way around late model modifieds w/o cat etc.


=============================================================================
Frank.. 90 Cutlass Ciera XC Special Edition..one of 955.. White/red sedan..
        K&N, Walker Dynomax exhaust....(driver)
        65 El Camino..327/300, black/red..frame off resto..(cruiser, show car)
        95 Plymouth Neon sedan..K&N, dohc exhaust..(wifes car)
        95 Dodge Ram 2500hd 4x4..v-10..(company truck)
=============================================================================

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From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:02 -0300
Subject: Re: rear differential

Jim,

>         Here are the 70 Codes:
> snip

May I ask for the 68 codes? :-)

Thanks in advance.

Chris Sparks

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From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:47:10 -0300
Subject: Re: cleaning calcium deposit from glass

Hi Jim,

> I finally have my Vista Cruiser roof glass, from a junkyard.
> Now I have one small problem. There is a stubborn deposit on them which I
> can't seem to get off. I think it's calcium, from dried-up rain, but I'm not
> sure.
> I've tried all kind of things like i.e. vinegar, but nothing seems to work
> properly. A razorblade works, but is a lot of work.
> Any suggestions?

This may be a long shot, but have you tried Lime-Away?

Chris Sparks

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From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:48:21 -0300
Subject: Re: Stripe Options (fwd)

Hi Paul,

> Wow, I think I really screwed this up.  What I meant to say is that N37
> was the "standard" coupe and Y37 is the Brougham.  Evidently your car is
> correctly marked as a Y37.  The other car is question here was, I believe
> an '81.  His was marked as and N even thought it was a Brougham, which
> must have been considered an option instead of a seperate model.  Did I
> make that clearer?  My head hurts...

Were clear and take some aspirin/tylenol/whatever.  :-)

Chris Sparks

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From: Bill Gochenour <billg@sjuvm.stjohns.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:28:59 -0300
Subject: [none]

unsubscribe oldsmobile

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From: Esko Ilola <esko.ilola@tele.fi>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:22:53 -0300
Subject: Back after a long break !

Back after several weeks of general flue and vacation.

*--------------------------------------------------

Jason Labay wrote about document viruses:

> E-mail messages by themselves can't cause a virus since they are not an
> executable program. If you download an attachment file and execute it then
> you could have virus troubles.

That's true if You have an old-fashioned mail program.

The newer ones have capabilities like Java. We are currently
experiencing a virus
contamination among our word-files. These are commonly sent via email.
Once You read
an attached word document with You Word For Windows then You have
contaminated Your
documents as well. The virus is planted in the macro mechanisms of word.

It is NOT completely safe to wiew a received message especially with a
Java or other
script running browsers.

*--------------------------------------------------

Wiz wondered about the burning fluids:

> The real question is: why would mineral oil that originated in the crankcase
> burn blue, and if it originated in the a/t burn white?

If I remember right, oil creates white smoke if it is overheated but not
burned.
Propably the trans fluid can't burn for some reason and therefore
creates the
white smoke.

*--------------------------------------------------

Scott responded on emergency message:

> Give us a good question and we will give you a better answer

This should read "Give us a dumb question and we give You a wise
answer...or was it
vice versa.."

*--------------------------------------------------

Bama-Bill,
Haven't forgot the engine. Just been a lot ill. Viruses!!!!!

*--------------------------------------------------

I'm still interested on accessory parts. Would those junky 64's contain
some of
these ?

Is there a place to get new vacuum diaphgrams ?
The one that controls the fresh / circulate air flow has a leak. It
causes
a constant hissing sound under the dash. This diaphgram is special; it
has two
hoses. Propably those jardy 64's have this item ?

Don't like snakes under the dash, especially during my underdash-naps.

*--------------------------------------------------
I have read digests up to ª634 now. There is more to come after I read
the rest
of them.

- --
Esko & Anneli Ilola

Mail:  Flintstensstigen 7B5     Tel: +358 2040 3439
       01610 VANDA FINLAND           +358 40 5575 116

Email: esko.ilola@tele.fi         \\\___
                              0\\\  o  ;/\\
Oldsmobile Ninety Eight       \\        \/ \
1664 4D HT                    //////\ //\   \
Holiday Sports Sedan                // \\   \

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From: Daren@qconline.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:26:16 -0300
Subject: Re: '78 Olds Delta 88, suspension tips

OL>I'm not even sure if I'm doing this right, but I'll find out (replying
OL>that is) I found out PST makes a 1" rear sway bar and a 1 1/8" front
OL>sway bar for my vehicle, but I believe they want $160 for it, which is
OL>too much right now, considering i'm in college and working.  I may just
OL>end up rebuilding a small block for my 88, perhaps another 350 or maybe
OL>a 403 but I don't care for the 403's 'windowed' main webs.

OL>Mike Jones mjones@gleep.com

If I remember right the '77 403s have solid mains not windowed like
'78-'79s do.

Daren

O.C.A. ª23571
daren@qconline.com

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From: "SZYMKOWSKI.FRANK" <FBS3@OAS.PSU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:10:51 -0300
Subject: What G.T.O. means

Geeze- I always thought it ment G.et the T.ools O.ut. <grin>









=============================================================================
Frank.. 90 Cutlass Ciera XC Special Edition..one of 955.. White/red sedan..
        K&N, Walker Dynomax exhaust....(driver)
        65 El Camino..327/300, black/red..frame off resto..(cruiser, show car)
        95 Plymouth Neon sedan..K&N, dohc exhaust..(wifes car)
        95 Dodge Ram 2500hd 4x4..v-10..(company truck)
=============================================================================

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From: "Steve B." <steveb@thecia.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:44:59 -0300
Subject: Re: New England get together

- ----------
> At 12:44 AM 5/5/97 -0300, you wrote:
> >
> >I was just wondering if the meeting at Berejick's this Saturday was still
> >on.  I hadn't seen anything about it lately on the list.
>
> Whoa!  I hadn't been following this thread closely at all, but it just
> dawned on me why that name sounds familiar.  Check out this image, is
there
> any correlation?  I see the spelling's different, but that may not mean
> much.  I pulled this out of my Olds in
> Action (Vol.1)
>
> http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner/berejik.jpg
>
>              Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
>              500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
>              Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
>              Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
>              "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
>              "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
>      "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
>                     Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!
>
>
>
Yes, They raced stock eliminator in 68'-70', there is even a possibility
they still have that car somewhere, I know they have quite a few stashed
away!! I have a picture of the 70 car they raced, a 4 speed W-30 post
coupe....

I too was wondering if the New England get together was still happening?????

Question: I am finally getting my OAI hood painted (right now it is red
with black strips and the car is Burnt orange (I think its called
Bittersweet in Olds terminology???) and I was wondering the best way to get
the stainless trim piece off the back of my stock steel hood??? any ideas,
it is not screwed to the hood, it seems like it is just a pressed on........

Thanks in advance!!!!

- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve
71 Cutlass S 455
93 Mustang LX 5.0
e-mail: steveb@thecia.net
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: tchurchill@draper.com (Timothy A. Churchill)
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:50:32 -0300
Subject: Re: New England get together

> >I was just wondering if the meeting at Berejick's this Saturday was still
> >on.  I hadn't seen anything about it lately on the list.

Charley Buehner asks:
> Whoa!  I hadn't been following this thread closely at all, but it just
> dawned on me why that name sounds familiar.  Check out this image, is there
> any correlation?  I see the spelling's different, but that may not mean
> much.  I pulled this out of my Olds in
> Action (Vol.1)
>
> http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner/berejik.jpg

Yep, one & the same, Charley.  Berejik is the proper spelling of the name
of the Olds dealership in Needham, MA.

So anyways, *is* there still an informal thing happening there this weekend?

Tim Churchill
- -------------
'67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible, a.k.a. 'Big Red'
'89 Cadillac Fleetwood, a.k.a. 'Der KinderWagen'
'91 Mazda Protege, a.k.a. 'The Next Car to be Replaced'

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From: Bill Gochenour <billg@sjuvm.stjohns.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:18:21 -0300
Subject: [none]

subscribe oldsmobile

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From: mplowe@pepco.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:38:34 -0300
Subject: 50's Olds

O.K. 50's guys here's a few questions for you.

I went to a little car show (Congressional Olds, Rockville Maryland)
yesterday and saw three 50's models: a 53 convertible, 56 and 57 hardtop's
(both red and white).   I always liked the 57 style but when I saw them I
preferred the 56, which suprised me.  Why was this, were there a lot of
differences (or was it just the continental kit on the 57?)

The other thing is what is the story with the battery on the 53?  It said
Delco so I assume it was a battery but I never saw anything like it.  (My
father had a 48 98 convertible but all I remember about it was getting
sunburned and taking the whole side of the car off to fix the power
windows)

One non 50's question: there was a very nice 64 or 65 Cutlass there that
claimed to weigh about 3150 lbs.  Wouldn't this make it potentially one of
the fastest models?

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From: J2RKT@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:42:20 -0300
Subject: Re: blockhugger headers, olds

    Just ran out to the garage to check the manifolds that came off of the
'70 Delta Royale that donated the 455 for my F85.  The drivers side exhaust
manifold exits straight down and to the center of the engine.  I don't see
any reason why a person couldn't use two of these manifolds in a street rod
set up, the only problem i can see with running this set up is that you
wouldn't be able to run the normal Cutlass style motor mounts, fortunatly
though, the Delta Royale had front mount engine engine mounts that used a
single large bolt to hold the engine to the frame.
  Hmmmmm -- Kinda got me thinking about a '27 T sedan up in Salt Lake with  a
small block Chevy in it that's been ignored for about 10 years.  A 455 in a
2000 lb car anyone.....  anyone ????

                                     J2RKT@aol.com

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From: MROTHE <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:52:47 -0300
Subject: G-body interior chrome

I was cleaning up my 85 442 the other day, and while I was in the back
seat, to my horror, I saw the chrome coming off both rear side panel
cloth insert trim.  I took one piece out, and took the trim off.  It had
to be gently pried off, due to it being heat-stamped/glued to the velour
insert.  The trim is still in excellent shape, except for what it looks
like the mylar/chrome is shedding off.  My question of need is, how can
I get these pieces re-chromed?  The trim is of a flexible-type plastic,
and I don't think standard plastic re-chroming would work.  I figure I'm
not the only one that has run into this, since the interior doesn't see
the sun very often, and hasn't in over 10 years.  The rest of the
interior remains mint.  ANY IDEAS??????

Mike Rothe

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From: Daniel Houlton <tc75918@hpr169.mdhc.mdc.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:02:44 -0300
Subject: Re: Getting the boot.

C.R.F. wrote:
>
> At 07:04 PM 5/2/97 -0300, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Am I the only one that has been continually removed from
> >the list the last few weeks?  I've had to re-subscribed 3
> >times now.  I'll go for a two or three days when it happens
> >cause I don't know if the list is down or I've been removed
> >again.
> >
> >--Dan
> >
> >
> How is 'Little Henry' these days.
>
> The Wiz

Huh??  What or who exactly is 'Little Henry'?

- --Dan

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From: George Johnston <ab291@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:16:32 -0300
Subject: correction

I posted yesterday looking for a rear driver's side lens for a '67 Vista
Cruiser.  I posted this for a friend, and he actually needs the whole
assembly.  He is willing to buy both sides if that's how your want to do it.
Sorry for the confusion.

Mail me at:

ab291@ccn.cs.dal.ca
johnstgf@gov.ns.ca

Thanks!

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From: Andy Geeting <geetinag@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:24:18 -0300
Subject: Goodbye for now.

Hey everyone,
     Well summer is just about here and school is almost over with so I
guess I probably should sign off. Thanks for all the great info. You all
have helped me see Oldsmobiles in another light. As far as I'm concerned
there is only one make of car out there... OLDSMOBILE!!! So thanks for
everything and I'll be back after summer vacation is over. Oh yeah, I'll try
and remember to tell you all how my rearend project goes this summer. Thanks
a bunch.

Andy Geeting
'87 Cutlass Supreme
'88 Cutlass Supreme Classic Brougham
'74 Delta 88 convertible
'78 Caprice wagon
'36 Plymouth coupe

------------------------------

From: Daniel Houlton <tc75918@hpr169.mdhc.mdc.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:18:16 -0300
Subject: Re: Getting the boot.

Mike Frederick wrote:
>
> Daniel Houlton wrote:
> >
> > Am I the only one that has been continually removed from
> > the list the last few weeks?
>
> I guess Greg's out in the garage so since I do the Toro list, I'll give
> you the best answer *I* can:
>
> When Majordomo can't deliver mail, it is returned to the administrator.
> That means that if there are 80 messages a day and 5 subscr*bers can't be
> reached, Greg will get 400 extra messages bounced back to him.
>
> The problem may be temporary or "harder" messages like "Host unknown" or
> "User unknown".  I don't know about Greg, but I may let this go on for a
> couple of days but if the problem doesn't clear, I'll have to remove them
> from the list.  Of course, they can sign back up anytime.
>
> I'm pretty sure if you're being unsubscr*bed from the list, it's for one
> of those reasons.  You might want to check with your service provider and
> see if THEY're having some problems.
>

Yup, Greg did contact me and that seems to be it.  Funny thing is that
I've been on the list for about a year and I'm on other lists as well that
don't appear to be getting bounces.  I am working here on my end to see
what the problem is.

It does seem to be intermittent so if it happens again, Greg'll move me to
digest mode rather than unsub me completely.

- --Dan

------------------------------

From: sammy williams <bd5av8r@whidbey.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:34:18 -0300
Subject: Re: cleaning calcium deposit from glass

Jim Hoekendijk wrote:
>
> I finally have my Vista Cruiser roof glass, from a junkyard.
> Now I have one small problem. There is a stubborn deposit on them which I
> can't seem to get off. I think it's calcium, from dried-up rain, but I'm not
> sure.
> I've tried all kind of things like i.e. vinegar, but nothing seems to work
> properly. A razorblade works, but is a lot of work.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Jim Hoekendijk, 1964 F-85 Cutlass Vista Cruiser
that substance is called "lime". go to walmart or k-mart or a
supermarket....get some lime-a-way or CLR....in a gray bottle then
wearing gloves and following directions on the bottle these products
will literally eat the lime off the surface. you could try some steel
wool also. good luck s.williams

------------------------------

From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:01:08 -0300
Subject: Re: HESITATION WHEN ACCELERATING/75 350/4 BBL.

DJV442@aol.com shouted:
>I HAVE A 75 OLDS CUTLASS S W/350/4 BBL.CAR HAS LOW MILEAGE,RUNS SUPER EXCEPT
>FOR A HESITATION AROUND 2000RPM...WILL RUN SMOOTH UP TO THIS POINT AND BEYOND
>2500RPM.

There's a little pigtail-like lead in the distributor that jumps the
gap from the side of the distributor to (what used to be called) the
breaker plate, which rotates with the vacuum advance. This has been
known to break inside its insulation, with the broken ends still
touching except when the plate rotates to just the right angle. It'll
look fine, but flunk a continuity test if you test the wire while
rotating the breaker plate manually. Check it out.

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@dlogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

------------------------------

From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@aisf.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:10:12 -0300
Subject: Re: Testing list    Ignore and trash

Ignore and trash

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:17:58 -0300
Subject: 1964 V.C. Hood Letters - A Challenge!

Gang,

Among all of us here, there must be *someone* who has access to a
junkyard somewhere that has a set of good hood letters for Jim's '64
Vista. Or maybe someone has a set stashed away somewhere.

Last year we were able to pull off a minor miracle for Esko in Finland by
getting him an ignition switch for this car... Jim is in the Netherlands and
could really use our help. What I'm thinking is this: let's make it into a
project for the list (and improve international relations here to boot) and
see if we can hook up a few different resources to come to his assistance. I
had a chrome shop ruin some diecast pieces on me also one time and I know how
he feels. It's almost like they have been stolen from you.

What do you think?

Jim's contact info:
Jim Hoekendijk, 1964 F-85 Cutlass Vista Cruiser
Jim Hoekendijk
Badhuisweg 60
7314 EE  Apeldoorn
The Netherlands
Tel:    +31 55 522 63 59
Mobile: +31 65 460 51 77
E-mail: jim.hoekendijk@pi.net


Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

From: jeff <jwc3354@acs.tamu.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:32:47 -0300
Subject:

suscribe oldsmobile

------------------------------

From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 03:56:13 -0300
Subject: Re: HESITATION WHEN ACCELERATING/75 350/4 BBL.

>I HAVE A 75 OLDS CUTLASS S W/350/4 BBL.CAR HAS LOW MILEAGE,RUNS SUPER EXCEPT
>FOR A HESITATION AROUND 2000RPM...WILL RUN SMOOTH UP TO THIS POINT AND BEYOND
>2500RPM.I HAVE REBUILT THE CARB,REPLACED CAP/ROTOR/WIRES/PLUGS AND CHECKED
>FOR ANY VACUUM LEAKS AND CHECKED FOR ANY OBVIOUS PROBLEMS.TIMING HAS BEEN
>SET,REPLACED FUEL FILTER,PVC VALVE AND CHECKED VACUUM ROUTING.DOES ANYONE
>HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS/SOLUTIONS?
>I HAD A 78 442 W/260/2BBL.WITH THE SAME PROBLEM BUT ENDED UP SELLING IT
>W/PROBLEM UNRESOLVED.THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY
>ADVICE/TROUBLESHOOTING HELP.I HAVE WORKED ON A LOT OF THESE VEHICLES BEFORE
>AND CAN USUALLY FIND PROBLEMS BUT NOT HAVING ANY LUCK W/THIS ONE...P/S....THE
>WORK I'VE DONE ON THIS HAS IMPROVED PROBLEM A LOT BUT IS STILL
>THERE....THANKS AGAIN...DJV442
>
>

I don't think anyone's replied to this yet so I'll make a suggestion or two.

All I can think of offhand is to change the points if you haven't since the
problem started.  If  they're worn out or burned they can cause trouble.  It
could possibly be worn distributor bushings, they're known to cause all
kinds of freaky problems.  You could swap the distributor if you have an
extra one lying around and see if that helps.  Otherwise check the
distributor shaft for exessive play.  If it seems worn you might consider a
replacement.  A rebuilt points-distributor can be had for around $40.
Rebuilt HEIs run about $90 I think.

Anyone else have any ideas?

Greg Pruett
`72 Vista-Cruiser
`67 Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

From: "Stubblefield, Lyndall (lstu)" <lstu@chevron.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:04:09 -0300
Subject: Attention!!! All 70 442 W-30 owners

I am looking for this car, not just any car but the one with the
following VIN

VIN:  344770M201645

If you currently own this car or know of it whereabouts please contact
me via email at lstu@chevron.com or lrstubble@paranet.com

Any help that you can provide would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks it advance for your help,

Desperately Seeking

------------------------------

From: kozhill@titanlink.com (Jo-Anne Hillier)
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:02:42 -0300
Subject: Re: cleaning calcium deposit from glass

How about CLR cleaner or steel wool.
Scott
kozhill@titanlink.com

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From: BobH592058@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:04:46 -0300
Subject: Posi Differentials and Synthetic Gear Lube

FWIW I put Mobil 1 in the "C" posi rear currently in the SX and it made the
most gawdawful banging noises you could imagine.  This would occur after
running on the straight highway and then stopping and making a turn.  After a
loud "clang" it wouls loosen up and be OK until you did the same routine
again.

I added the GM additive and it went away. So my experience is that Mobil 1
needs the GM additive for use in posi rears.

Bob Handren        OCA/OCFª 7728
'67 W-30 Modified     '70 SX Convertible
Oviedo, FL

Handren Associates, Inc.
FDA Medical Device Regulatory Affairs
Laser/Optical Radiation Safety
(407)365-6385

------------------------------

From: BobH592058@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:01:19 -0300
Subject: GTO means....

<<I remember asking my dad, "what does G.T.O. stand for?"  He
replied, "Get Them Oldsmobiles".  After yesterdays discussion I now
understand why he said that.  >>

I remember kidding a buddy with a "Goat" that it was actually a
recommendation -

"Go To Olds."

Bob Handren        OCA/OCFª 7728
'67 W-30 Modified     '70 SX Convertible
Oviedo, FL

Handren Associates, Inc.
FDA Medical Device Regulatory Affairs
Laser/Optical Radiation Safety
(407)365-6385

------------------------------

From: "Robert J. Lavey" <rjlavey@rmci.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:08:05 -0300
Subject: Test: please ignore

I received NO emails from the list today which seems a bit weird.  I'm just
testing to see if this gets through and returns to me.
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From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:17:42 -0300
Subject: Re: H/O aero

At 09:29 AM 5/5/97 -0300, you wrote:
>FYI- I know somwone who just came from the Taladega racetrack museum
>and low and behold they have an H/O aero on display.


All this recent talk about the H/O Aero packages has me drooling (again...
I'd finally managed to get that stopped, but here we go again...  :)  Does
anyone have access to ~ALL~ of the following three items?  Camera, Scanner,
and H/O Aero????  The scanner may be optional, as the prints could be mailed
to one of us that have one...  I've never seen one of these kits, and I'd be
really anxious to check it out.  I'm sure many other A/G body Olds owners
would love to see one, as well (or several...)


             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

From: Nascarnut5@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:18:16 -0300
Subject: Clutch (fwd) & Tires

A few questions about my 1991 Quad442, W41.  (190 hp Quad 4, with 5 speed
Trany)

I have a question to you about clutches.  What is their normal life time?
 I'm pretty ruff on mine, just because I bought the car to play in, not to
baby it.  Don't get me wrong, I don't abuse, just use it for what it is meant
to do.  I now have 46,000 miles, and I am wondering when I will be replacing
it.

Also....I'm do for some tires, I don't think the "factory" Goodyear Eagle
GT+4's will be on my car again.  I've already replaced them once.  I'll be
buying my 3rd set in a month or so.  (23,000 miles per set is pretty bad if
you ask me.)  What  brand/size do you recommend?  (I just wish my wheels were
bigger than the 14" that is stock, but I have no intention of changing the
wheels out, for the "stock" reason.)  The stock size is: P215/60R14.  Would
changing the size of the tire be a bad idea?  I'd like a little bigger if I
could.  I've lost traction lately, and they are getting pretty bald, almost
bald that is.

Thanks!
Steve  (Nascarnut5@aol.com)
(1991 Olds Quad442, W41 & 1992 Olds Cutlass Supreme Conv.)

------------------------------

From: Matthew Mayer <mmayer@spoiler.interaccess.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 21:20:57 -0300
Subject: A/C Ooops

While looking under the hood at my O2 sensor, I crack a hard plastic
(and very brittle..) vacuum line.  Checking my service manual, I find
that it one of the A/C vacuum hoses.  But I really can't discern what it
feeds vacuum to.  There are two, a violet and a grey.  I broke the
Grey.  I think it's for the water valve.  Is there such a thing as an
"in-line connector" for hard vacuum lines??  Or am I scr**ed and have to
replace the whole thing?

Thanks!
- --
- ---Matt
'86 442
- --------------------------------------------------------
mailto:mmayer@interaccess.com    |  VM: 800-481-1323
remove the "spoiler" for replies |
- --------------------------------------------------------

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From: Matthew Mayer <mmayer@spoiler.interaccess.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 21:23:15 -0300
Subject: Fuel Filter Flare Nut

I finally got my flare nut wrenched today.  Figured I would attack my
fuel filter.  I liquid wrenched it and let it sit, but it still wouldn't
budge.  I don't want toi try anymore as I think I am on the verge of
permanently screwing up the nut.   anyone have any other ideas/tips on
how to get that sucker loose??  (I know, spend the $25 and have a REAl
mecahnic do it....but that's too easy...)
Thanks!

- ---Matt
'86 442
- --------------------------------------------------------
mailto:mmayer@interaccess.com    |  VM: 800-481-1323
remove the "spoiler" for replies |
- --------------------------------------------------------

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From: Lance Mackey <lamackey@sns-acccess.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 21:08:01 -0300
Subject: Re: Musclecars collectors cards

At 06:01 PM 5/4/97 -0300, you wrote:
>
>The mall I work at had a baseball card "sidewalk sale" thing going on this
>weekend.  I'm not into collecting them but looked around for anything car
>related and found a 1992 edition of Musclecars collector cards that
>covers 1964-1974.  Out of the 100 card set, 8 Oldsmobiles are included.
>Not a bad representation I think.  Here is what they included:
>
>1964 Cutlass 442
>1966 Cutlass 442
>1968 442
>1969 Cutlass W31
>1969 Hurst 442
>1970 Rallye 350
>1971 442 W30
>1972 Hurst/Olds
>
>The cards are pretty cool.  They have a picture of the car on the front
>and on the back give engine and tranny options and production ªs with 0-60
>and 1/4 mile times with a brief description of the car. I got two complete
>sets out of the box and enough leftovers of the Olds to put in a frame
>all for only $13.
>Probably be a cool "spirit" item for shows!
>
>Bill Reilly
>'85 Cutlass Supreme

The 1991 Series has 101 cards, 12 of which are engines (no olds) and
includes 4 Oldsmobiles:

'68 Hurst/Olds
'69 Hurst/Olds
'70 W-30 (brown w/ black stripes)
'70 W-30 (orange w/ black stripes)



Happy Cruzin'

Lance Mackey
lamackey@3rdplanet.com
http://www.3rdplanet.com/~lamackey/hurst_hp.html ('68 Hurst/Olds website)

'67 Supreme post UHC 330
'68 Hurst/Olds (original family)
'59 Chevy Viking
'63 Nova 400
'69 Camaro SS396
'70 Camaro 350/300hp
'86 Camaro 502 (original owner)

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From: "Edward J. Buss" <edjbuss@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 21:12:14 -0300
Subject: Picture of 1970 Olds Cutlass, Convertible, Red, White Top, Rally
Wheels

I own a 1970 Olds Convertible as described above.  It has black interior.
I don't care if the picture has white or black interior.  I am looking for
a professional, production, glossy picture.  If anyone know where I could
purchase a picture, please let me know.  I have downloaded some but the
quality in not very good.
Thanks for your help,
Ed

------------------------------

From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:09:16 -0300
Subject: Re: Test: please ignore

On Mon, 5 May 1997, Robert J. Lavey wrote:

> I received NO emails from the list today which seems a bit weird.  I'm just
> testing to see if this gets through and returns to me.

Chebucto Net seems to have been having some mail problems today. I sent a
message at lunchtime that still hasn't made it here. And like others, no
mail from others most of the day today. Hopefully the lost messages will
come through soon.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

From: Barnacle Bill <wreilly@acad.bryant.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:34:53 -0300
Subject: Re: New England get together

On Mon, 5 May 1997, Charley Buehner wrote:

> At 12:44 AM 5/5/97 -0300, you wrote:
> >
> >I was just wondering if the meeting at Berejick's this Saturday was still
> >on.  I hadn't seen anything about it lately on the list.
>
> Whoa!  I hadn't been following this thread closely at all, but it just
> dawned on me why that name sounds familiar.  Check out this image, is there
> any correlation?  I see the spelling's different, but that may not mean
> much.  I pulled this out of my Olds in
> Action (Vol.1)
>
> http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner/berejik.jpg

I believe the car in the picture was most likely owned by this dealership.
I spelled the name wrong that's why it didn't match up.  They have an Olds
performance parts store next to the dealership.  I'm not to familiar with
them though.  Maybe someone actually native to New England could offer
some more info.

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

From: Barnacle Bill <wreilly@acad.bryant.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:41:49 -0300
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Musclecars collectors cards

On Mon, 5 May 1997, Barnacle Bill wrote:

>
> I was looking a little closer at those cards and the 1971 W30 is the only
> one out of the 8 that has a real license plate on the front.  It's a NY
> plate that says 71W30.  It also has an OCA license plate frame!! Is it
> possible that the ownwer is on this list?  Or does anyone know who this
> car belongs to?  Just curious.
>
> Bill Reilly
> '85 Cutlass Supreme
>
>

------------------------------

From: Barnacle Bill <wreilly@acad.bryant.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:39:04 -0300
Subject: Re: H/O aero

On Mon, 5 May 1997, Charley Buehner wrote:

>
> All this recent talk about the H/O Aero packages has me drooling (again...
> I'd finally managed to get that stopped, but here we go again...  :)  Does
> anyone have access to ~ALL~ of the following three items?  Camera, Scanner,
> and H/O Aero????  The scanner may be optional, as the prints could be mailed
> to one of us that have one...  I've never seen one of these kits, and I'd be
> really anxious to check it out.  I'm sure many other A/G body Olds owners
> would love to see one, as well (or several...)
>
I have a picture of an 87 442 with this kit, I suppose I could scan this
too while I'm still at school, and send it to Bryce along with those
pictures of the cards. I have some photocopies of the original press
release but I don't think those would scan well.

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme

------------------------------

From: mtpoole <mtpoole@concentric.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:47:00 -0400
Subject: RE:1970 OLDS VIN

THE VIN IS FOR A 1970 CUTLASS HOLIDAY COUPE V-8

MICHAEL POOLE
1970 CUTLASS SX W-32

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From: Richard Staley <rstaley@FastLane.NET>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:45:53 -0300
Subject: steering wheel

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From: mtpoole <mtpoole@concentric.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:48:18 -0400
Subject: Re: 1970 cutlass hood

mtpoole wrote:
>
> my 1970 cutlass hood stick up in both corner near windshield
> Is there any fix for this problem?
>
> michael poole
> 1970 cutlass sx w-32

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From: "j kimball" <jdkim@lvdi.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:14:01 -0300
Subject: Stolen 442

I want ask the help of fellow Olds fans in the Las Vegas (and Southwest US)
areas to be on the look out for my black/silver '86 442 which was stolen on
5-3-97.  It is all orig. and can be recognized because of having tint on
side windows but none on the rear window.  NV License ª FZB 095,  VIN
1G3GK4794GP369613.  It was my 16th birthday present and I am heartbroken!!!
 If you do see this car, please call the LV police. Thanks.

------------------------------

From: "Easton,Jeffrey" <Jeffrey.Easton@add.ssw.abbott.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:25:58 -0300
Subject: recommendations for 2.25 exhaust

Got the rear lube and tranny lube changed out Sunday
w/ mobil 1.  Put the GM additive in the rear.  Seems
to be working normally.  No major leaks... Yet.

So today I take it out for a cruise and what happens
a few blocks from home?  Drivers side exhaust pipe
falls off.  Looks like it rusted around the flare
enough to let it fall out of the clamp.  Guess
the appraiser was correct last week when he noted
an exhaust leak. :-)

Anyway, the pipes and "sears special" mufflers
are pretty rusted up so its probably a good time
to investigate a new exhaust system.  Since the
exhaust manifold dump measures out to approx 2.25",
any recommendations on a good mandrel bent 2.25"
system that fits; a) stock exhaust manifolds,
b) stock location of mufflers, and c) stock
exits to allow welding on trumpets?

BTW, didnt someone here on the list float the
idea of having some larger diameter trumpets made?
What ever happened to that?

Since the exhaust manifolds are around 2.25",
why would you want bigger pipes?  Who has a
convincing argument for 2.5" pipes? :-)

- -Jeff
jeffrey.easton@add.ssw.abbott.com

1970 442 4-speed (with the "loud" option)

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From: Richard Staley <rstaley@FastLane.NET>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:34:07 -0300
Subject: Re: Stolen 442

j kimball wrote:
>
> I want ask the help of fellow Olds fans in the Las Vegas (and Southwest US)
> areas to be on the look out for my black/silver '86 442 which was stolen on
> 5-3-97.  It is all orig. and can be recognized because of having tint on
> side windows but none on the rear window.  NV License ª FZB 095,  VIN
> 1G3GK4794GP369613.  It was my 16th birthday present and I am heartbroken!!!
>  If you do see this car, please call the LV police. Thanks.


I am totally sorry about the car I will be on the lookout for your
classic

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From: "j kimball" <jdkim@lvdi.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:38:23 -0300
Subject: Stolen 442

I want to ask the help of fellow Olds fans in the Las Vegas (and Southwest
US) areas to be on the look out for my black/silver '86 442 which was
stolen on 5-3-97.  It is all orig. can be recognized because of having tint
on side windows but none on the rear window.  NV License ª FZB 095,  VIN
1G3GK4794GP369613.  It was my 16th birthday present 11 years ago and I am
heartbroken!!!  If you do see this car, please call the LV police.  Thanks.

jdkim@lvdi.net

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From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:54:48 -0300
Subject: Rockit ran again

     Well, since there's little going on here today, I'll tell ya'all that
the Rockit drove again today.  I put an AFB on there (cuz I'm running out of
Q-jets!  Damn project cars!:)  and finally got 'er to fire up.  Drove it up
on the lawn and hosed all of the avionic fecal material (bird s**t) off of
it :(  Didn't get too carried away, since I still can't drive it (still
knocks, misses, and smokes out the driver's side)  Started it again, and
parked it back on the street.  Apparantly the poor car was trying to let me
know how much she missed being driven, cuz I couldn't shut the engine off!
Turn the key, and the accessories shut down, but the engine kept running,
and the charge light came on.  Fought with that a while, finally pulled the
coil + wire.  Figured that wouldn't be too good for battery life, so I
pulled the alarm out and checked it over.  It's fine.  Put it all back.
Finally narrowed it down to my aftermarket choke thermostat under the hood.
Apparantly got zapped somewhere in the procedure, and was backfeeding juice
to the ignition system.  Started the car, turned the key back off, went out
(with wire cutters in hand :) and snipped one of the choke wires.  Engine
shut off.  Everything happy.  Saga over...  Started it again a few more
times, and it's all ok (well, except for the knocking, etc...)  so I shut
'er down and went inside to eat.  Everyone should be impressed, I have five
cars outside, and now there are four of them that I can jump into at any
time, start 'em, and drive away (Oh, except for one flat tire.  Better fix
that.  ~Actually~ I ~can~ start it, and drive away, it'd just look kinda
funny...)  My fifth one is just missing a battery, and it'd be ready to go,
as well.  (well, actually a battery, heater motor, and title, but that's a
whole different subject...  It's also got a battery drain (part of why
there's no battery there:) so I have to address that, too.  Still making
preparations for the two new additions to the street out front.  (One of
which will ~not~ be able to start or run...  EVER:(  The other should for a
while...

Enough for now...  I'll check in later to see if anyone's alive on the list
(It sure is quiet....)




             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

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From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:51:16 -0300
Subject: Re: New England get together

There is no meeting at Berijiks this weekend  this weekend is Great Woods
Swap Meet

The Berijik Olds Show is Sunday June 1st

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From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:56:46 -0300
Subject: Re: Catalytic converter

Hi all,

Does anyone know of a good catalytic converter that will pass smog
and yet be free flowing enough to give some power back to my 82
Delta Royale Brougham 305?

Let me know

Chris Sparks
68 442
82 DRB

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From: IRONMAN <jev114@psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 00:22:46 -0300
Subject: Re: Clutch (fwd) & Tires

At 08:18 PM 5/5/97 -0300, you wrote:
>A few questions about my 1991 Quad442, W41.  (190 hp Quad 4, with 5 speed
>Trany)
>
>I have a question to you about clutches.  What is their normal life time?
> I'm pretty ruff on mine, just because I bought the car to play in, not to
>baby it.  Don't get me wrong, I don't abuse, just use it for what it is meant
>to do.  I now have 46,000 miles, and I am wondering when I will be replacing
>it.

Fellow Quad 4 Owner
it's hard to put a time fram on a clutch, b/c after all clutch life is
directly related to how you drive-you slip it or pop it, or take it easy.
who knows! it is possible to wear a clutch out in a week or less if you
slip it to much. is it slipping now? or just losing its grab. i had a
centerforce clutch in my Q4, and the thing grabbed like you wouldn't
believe...didn't last tho. another friend of mine had a centerforce that
blew after around 3000 miles, and this kid *rarely* abused the car at all.
shattered the thing into many pieces. so if you do replace it don't buy
centerforce. a Quad 4 performance whop advised me to only put the GM heavy
duty clutch for the HO in my car. so that's what i have and it works great.


>Also....I'm do for some tires, I don't think the "factory" Goodyear Eagle
>GT+4's will be on my car again.  I've already replaced them once.  I'll be
>buying my 3rd set in a month or so.  (23,000 miles per set is pretty bad if
>you ask me.)  What  brand/size do you recommend?  (I just wish my wheels were
>bigger than the 14" that is stock, but I have no intention of changing the
>wheels out, for the "stock" reason.)  The stock size is: P215/60R14.  Would
>changing the size of the tire be a bad idea?  I'd like a little bigger if I
>could.  I've lost traction lately, and they are getting pretty bald, almost
>bald that is.

can't really say much about the tires...my tires last roughly 5months
(abuse) or 5000 miles. but i can tell you if you go to a bigger tire(larger
diameter) you'll lose some of your precious gear ratio (3.94 for W-41).
there was a detailed tire discussion a few days ago on here...but i think
it was more related to political bashings than anything else. i've heard
good things about dunlop for performance.

Q4 nut

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From: "John M. Loban" <cyberpsych@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 00:29:02 -0300
Subject: A/C repair

Here is a question for any air conditioning experts out there:  my
system was discharged on my '63 olds about 4 years ago.  What should I
do prior to trying to re-charge it.  I need a new compressor(re-built)
and one person mentioned that I should have the suction throttling valve
rebuilt and replace the receiver/dryer.  Any advice appreciated.

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From: Lloyd Culp <bculp@hiwaay.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:26:15 -0300
Subject: Re: Stolen 442

j kimball wrote:
>
> I want to ask the help of fellow Olds fans in the Las Vegas (and Southwest
> US) areas to be on the look out for my black/silver '86 442 which was
> stolen on 5-3-97.  It is all orig. can be recognized because of having tint
> on side windows but none on the rear window.  NV License ª FZB 095,  VIN
> 1G3GK4794GP369613.  It was my 16th birthday present 11 years ago and I am
> heartbroken!!!  If you do see this car, please call the LV police.  Thanks.
>
> jdkim@lvdi.net

We are always sorry to hear of such a thing.  At least they have
excellent taste.  Of course, any 442 always attracts my attention.  I
will look even harder now.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

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From: Lloyd Culp <bculp@hiwaay.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:31:26 -0300
Subject: Re: Rockit ran again

Charley Buehner wrote:
>
>      Well, since there's little going on here today, I'll tell ya'all that
> the Rockit drove again today.

<snip of Charley's usual material>

  Still making
> preparations for the two new additions to the street out front.  (One of
> which will ~not~ be able to start or run...  EVER:(  The other should for a
> while...
>
> Enough for now...  I'll check in later to see if anyone's alive on the list
> (It sure is quiet....)
>
>
>              Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
>              500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
>              Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
>              Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
>              "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
>              "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
>              "FAST FWD" (Soon)     | '67 Toronado 425
>                      Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

Charley,

With a life like yours & that collection, Montana must be quite a place
to visit.  Is the state legislature taking up a collection for your
removal at this graduation you are always talking about?  You aren't
planning on moving South are you?

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

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