
oldsmobile-digest        Monday, August 4 1997        Volume 01 : Number 783



1964-65 442/Cutlass info update...
Trains - Not Olds-Related
Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.
headers don't fit.......
Re: Toro engine for 455 build
Formulas
Re: headers don't fit.......
Re: headers don't fit.......
Re: Formulas
$ Exchange rate
DESPERATE for paint stripe spec's!
Re: 78-88 gas cap
Re: $ Exchange rate
Return-Path: <oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> 
Re: LANSING LIST UPDATED! 
f-body disc brakes on my 67 f-85
Re: BB heads
Re: Auction stuff...
Re: headers don't fit.......
Re: 6 volt headlight
Re: $ Exchange rate
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #782
Re: headers don't fit.......
Leaky master cylinder
RE:  Auction prices, plus a ? for the list
Re: W Machine question
Re: 1964-65 442/Cutlass info update...
Re: Differential ID & swap
FS: Olds Stuff
Re: J heads
'76 Cutlass rear end help
Re: oldsmobile parts
Re: W Machine question
Re: $ Exchange rate
Please take me off the mailing list
Re: BB heads
Re: W Machine question
Re: W Machine question
Looking for '76 Cutlass driver door
Re: W Machine question
Re: Looking for replacement panels
Re: $ Exchange rate
Re: $ Exchange rate
Lansing Question!!!
Re: Leaky master cylinder
W-machines newsletter? are you intrested?
RE:  Auction prices, plus a ? for the list
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Oil Pressure and carpet/headliner color
Re: Oil Pan-- Centennial swap spots
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Lansing Question!!!
Cooked Compressor...
403 swap
Re: J heads
Olds Humour...
Re: Cooked Compressor...
Re: Olds Humour...
Re[2]: Differential ID & swap
Re: Leaky master cylinder
RWD Aurora power
Re: 403 swap
Re: W-machines newsletter? are you intrested?
W-43 Production
Re: Auction prices...
turbo 400 swap in g-body
Popular Mechanics

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 11:37:46 -0500
From: "smardale@airmail.net" <smardale@airmail.net>
Subject: 1964-65 442/Cutlass info update...

Here is a list of the individuals who own 64-65 442s/Cutlasses that have 
responded to my first message.  If you know of anyone else who owns one
of these cars (even if they aren't on the net or have e-mail), Please let
me know-- I'd be happy to help them via snail-mail if necessary.


Sean "?"           SEAN442@aol.com

"Travis Adams"     <cashmore@imt.net>

Bryceman           bryceman@442.com

Rick Copithorne    <richardc@equitrac.com>

Steve Potter       SPotter596@aol.com

Scott Martindale   smardale@airmail.net


Thanks for your time, and I'll keep you posted of developments on a regular
basis.

Scott Martindale
smardale@airmail.net
1965 442 Holiday Coupe
1965 442 Convertible

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 12:38:39 -0400
From: dk0009@epfl2.epflbalto.org (Douglas Kitchener)
Subject: Trains - Not Olds-Related

Folks...

Just remembered that a friend of mine, O-Gauge train enthusiast, had told me 
that Lionel Trains is in MI; and that they have tours!  More on this later, but 
they do have an internet site at www.lionel.com

Didn't have time to check it out; I'm late now to go get the convertible checked 
out... engine isn't running right _at all_.  More on both subjects later-

Doug 

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 11:58:43 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.

Robert Schinkel wrote:
> 
> ----------
> > From: dhamlett@mitec.net
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.
> > Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 10:08 AM
> >
> >
> > Yup, they had forged steel crank and rods in 66' .
> 
> Hey Dan
> 
> I have a 66 330 and I thought the crank was cast
> I'm not very good at determining the differance would you have the stamping
> codes for the crank
> I would appreciate it

Actually Bob, I dont have those numbers but here is an excerpt from
"Cutlass a book of information" in which the 1966 Cutlass selling points
were listed for the dealers:
________________________________________________________________________
                            POWER TRAIN
The heavy precision-machined crankshaft of forged steel (V-8) or nodular
iron (six) is dynamically balanced for smooth, quiet operation. Aluminum
alloy pistons are light and durable.  In V-8's, they're tin plated for
smoother action.  Chrome-plated rings maintain tight compression and oil
sealing.  Forged steel connecting rods have the strength to transmit
peak power to the crankshaft.
________________________________________________________________________

Hope this helps.
- -- 

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
- -----------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:00:28 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: headers don't fit.......

Fellow Rocketteers,
		I can't find headers to fit ( although the listing says so) my
455 powered 67' CS ragtop. Engine is in stock location. It should be a
direct swap
for the 330. Problem is two tubes on the driver side hit the steering
column. I tried the
hammer method but now have minimal clearance. No room for header wrap. 

						Thanks
						PATTON
"Compared too 442's all other forms of human endeavor shrink to
insignificance"

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 12:31:02 -0500
From: jrjet@mtco.com (Dot & Tim McChesney)
Subject: Re: Toro engine for 455 build

>Tim,
>       You know that you are getting a 425 not a 455 engine. Wouldn't want
>you to get it home then find out.   Steve
>1967 442
>1970 442
>1973 442
>1985 Delta 88 Royale brougham
>OCA 016050


I did know it is a 425, but the good block and heads are what I was after.
Never know maybe build a 425 instead.

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:40:26 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Formulas

A while back I asked a question on how to determine Gear ratio by the tire
Hieght and someone was kind enough to give me the formulas to calculate
tire hieght, 1/4 mile time, speed , and all kinds of neat thing 
Problem is I have deleted this information to somewhere or just misplaced
it in the computers brain(lost forever then)
Could that person or another E me the formulas Again 

Thankyou

Robert Schinkel

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 13:27:04 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: Re: headers don't fit.......

Patton wrote:
> 
> Fellow Rocketteers,
>                 I can't find headers to fit ( although the listing says so) my
> 455 powered 67' CS ragtop. Engine is in stock location. It should be a
> direct swap
> for the 330. Problem is two tubes on the driver side hit the steering
> column. I tried the
> hammer method but now have minimal clearance. No room for header wrap.
> 
>                                                 Thanks
>                                                 PATTON
> "Compared too 442's all other forms of human endeavor shrink to
> insignificance"

Does someone make headers for 66-7 330's?
- -- 

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
- -----------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 15:20:37 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: Re: headers don't fit.......

no one today makes 64-67 small block headers. I tried a pair of 68-72
headers
no dice.......

- ----------
> From: dhamlett@mitec.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: headers don't fit.......
> Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 2:27 PM
> 
> Patton wrote:
> > 
> > Fellow Rocketteers,
> >                 I can't find headers to fit ( although the listing says
so) my
> > 455 powered 67' CS ragtop. Engine is in stock location. It should be a
> > direct swap
> > for the 330. Problem is two tubes on the driver side hit the steering
> > column. I tried the
> > hammer method but now have minimal clearance. No room for header wrap.
> > 
> >                                                 Thanks
> >                                                 PATTON
> > "Compared too 442's all other forms of human endeavor shrink to
> > insignificance"
> 
> Does someone make headers for 66-7 330's?
> -- 
> 
> -----------------------------------------
>       Dan Hamlett
>       1966 Cutlass Convertible
>       1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
>       mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
>       http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
> -----------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 15:23:32 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Formulas

Yes I'm so lonely I'm reponding to my own ad 
No really folks just forget this ad I found the other list in the computer 

Thanks anyway

Bob

- ----------
> From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Formulas
> Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 1:40 PM
> 
> A while back I asked a question on how to determine Gear ratio by the
tire
> Hieght and someone was kind enough to give me the formulas to calculate
> tire hieght, 1/4 mile time, speed , and all kinds of neat thing 
> Problem is I have deleted this information to somewhere or just misplaced
> it in the computers brain(lost forever then)
> Could that person or another E me the formulas Again 
> 
> Thankyou
> 
> Robert Schinkel

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 15:35:30 -0400
From: WALKERJIM@webtv.net (Jim Walker)
Subject: $ Exchange rate

I've been following the price information on cars & parts in preparation
to eventually rejoin the merry world of Oldsmobiling. I'd really
appreciate it if someone would please give the rate of exchange between
Canadian and US $. Thanks!
/jw

Visit my homepage (currently under construction)!
http://members.tripod.com/~walkerjim/index.html

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 12:59:25 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: DESPERATE for paint stripe spec's!

I need someone to PLEASE e-mail, fax, or snail mail me the spec's for
the W-30 paint stripes on a 70 442!  The car is in the paint shop and
they are waiting for this info.
Thanks
Brad

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 14:57:59 -0700
From: Kevin O'Brien <obrienk@sunynassau.edu>
Subject: Re: 78-88 gas cap

Mike J ones asked about 78 gas cap.
btw Are 78's getting popular?

Quotes from the 78 Olds Manual:
"The fuel tank filler neck is equipped with a screw type cap. The
threaded part of the cap requires several turns counterclockwise to
remove. The long threaded area was designed to allow any remaining fuel
tank pressure to escape during the cap removal operation. A built-in
torque limiting device prevents over-tightening. To install, turn the
cap clockwise until a clicking noise is heard. This signals that the
correct torque has been reached and the cap is fully seated.

(NOTE: If a filler cap requires replacement, only a cap with the same
features should be used. failure to use the correct cap can result in a
serious malfunction of the system.)"

From the 78 manual "Fuel system diagnosis" section:
COLLAPSED FUEL TANK   	Plugged or pinched vent lines or hoses, and 			
defective cap.

Sounds like the cap seals under pressure and breaks under vacuum.
I have a 78-98 diesel with the original cap: Makes a whoosh every time I
open it even after a brief engine run. Operates just as described in the
manual. 

Kevin O'Brien 
78-98 2D

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 16:09:02 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: Re: $ Exchange rate

Jim Walker wrote:
> 
> I've been following the price information on cars & parts in preparation
> to eventually rejoin the merry world of Oldsmobiling. I'd really
> appreciate it if someone would please give the rate of exchange between
> Canadian and US $. Thanks!
> /jw
> 
> Visit my homepage (currently under construction)!
> http://members.tripod.com/~walkerjim/index.html
Although the exchange rate fluctuates a little, usually $.73US will buy
$1.00 CDN

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:25:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Roger Schultz <schultz_assoc@pipeline.com>
Subject: Return-Path: <oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> 

unsubscribe oldsmobile schultz_assoc@pipeline.com

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:00:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Hoopingarner <khooping@bright.net>
Subject: Re: LANSING LIST UPDATED! 

Added myself to the list below!!


Kevin Hoopingarner   Lansing Cottonwood Campground Site 29B  8/19-24

At 09:21 PM 7/28/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello everyone, well since I'm such a nice guy (Well....I like to think
>so!) I decided I'd type this entire list out one more time. I'd like to
>ask everyone who does not have a copy of this list to please print it
>out if you want it, it takes a very long time to type, thanx in advance, 
>
>Cliff McFarlane 
>62 Starfire conv
>63 Starfire sport coupe	
>
>Well here's the list:
>________________________________________________________________________
>  NAME		       HOTEL	           DATE		  CAR
>  ====		       =====	           ====		  ===
>Adams, Tom	     Kellogg Center       8/21-24   66 Delta Convertible
>Allen, Joseph	     Cottenwood CG        8/20-24   57 88 J/2 conv
>Beaulieu, Greg	     Hampton Inn          8/18-23   none
>Bicker, Steve	     Quailty Suites       8/19-24   67 442	
>Blankenship, Mike    Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
>Bradley, Terry&Barb  Regent Inn           8/20-24   71 Cutlass, 70 W-30
>Brown, David         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   77 Delta 88
>Chermack, Jim        Marriot East         8/18-25   67 442 W-30
>Cornea, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   70 442 W-30
>Cremean, Matt        Blissfiend, MI       8/21      73 Cutlass Supreme
>Culp, Bill           Park Inn Int         8/21-24   62 Jetfire
>Easton, Jeff         Fairfield Okemos     8/20-22   70 442
>Forsee, Ron          Hampton Inn          8/20-24   65 442	
>Glista, Nikki        Holiday West         8/19-24   68 Cutlass conv
>Glista, Richard      Holiday West         8/19-24   68 442
>Gulino, Dan          Sleep Inn            8/20-24   75 Delta 88 conv
>Harkema, Doug        Holt, MI             all       70 Supreme conv
>Hartlieb, Paul       Marriot East         8/19-23   67 98
>Hendley, Daren       Ramada               8/20-24   none
>Hirtle, Don          Hampton              8/18-23   none
Hoopingarner, Kevin   Cottonwood Campground8/19-24   None
>Horton, Everett      Sheraton             8/19-23   61 Starfire conv
>Horton, Gordon       Sheraton             8/19-23   71 Supreme conv
>Johnson, Ernie       Ramada               8/20-24   67 442
>Kitchner, Doug       Holiday West         8/19-24   70 Supreme conv
>Lamb, Aaron          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   72 Cutlass 
>Loban, John          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-24   63 Starfire conv
>McFarlane, Cliff     Holiday West         8/19-24   63 Starfire coupe
>Melen, Ulyess        Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   71 Cutlass S
>Nicholson, Brad      Best Western         8/19-24   94 LSS
>O'Connor, Peg        Holiday West         8/19-24   none
>Penny, Steve         Hampton              8/18-23   none
>Prince, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   72 442 W-30
>Prince, Michael      Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   70 Cutlass S
>Pritchett, Bill      Radisson             8/20-23   61 98
>Roberts, Rick        Clubhouse Inn        8/22      72 H/O
>Ruper, Chris         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   none
>Senko, Drew          Sheraton             8/20-23   71 Supreme conv
>Schinkel, Rob        Red Roof Inn         8/21-22   none
>Smetana, Chris       BW Govenors          8/20-24   possibly a 72 S
>Smith, Brian         Hampton              8/18-23   none
>Smith, Bryce         Days Inn             8/18-23   none
>Soball, Dave         Motel 6 Central      8/20-24   55 98
>Stewart, Sandy       Hampton              8/18-23   none
>Thomas, Robert       Clubhoue Inn         8/22      69 442 W-32
>Westlake, Steve      Holiday West         8/19-24   63 98
>Williams, Dan        Hampton Inn          8/20-24   68 442 conv
>Williams, Danny      Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
>Wilson, Jim          none                 8/19-24   64 Starfire
>Wyatt, Dave          BW Govenors          8/20-24   70 442
>________________________________________________________________________
>LIST TOTAL = 49 People
>
>

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:04:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: f-body disc brakes on my 67 f-85

I was given a very tired 81 pontiac formula, what do I need to do to put the
disc brakes on my 1967 F-85. my address is RCKTPWR@AOL.COM ......THANX

PS. THE FORMULA ONLY HAS A 6CYL,  NEED ANY PARTS???

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:16:10 -0500
From: katana72@juno.com (Rob T)
Subject: Re: BB heads

Yes it is, BUT........... from what I understand, the pushrod guide holes
need to be drilled out to 7/16" . I'm not sure about the valve seals, but
that info can be found out by contacting Jim Chermack. He knows someone
in the Va. Beach area that has done this (to wondrous satisfaction). I
would consider this guy better than Mondello. 
Rob 

Katana72          "It's NOT yourDaddy's Oldsmobile !!!!!    Hastings, MN
On Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:05:09 -0500 Matt Cremean
<ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu> writes:
>Is it possible to put BB heads on a 350?
>-- 
>**********************************
>Matt Cremean
>+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
>CreamerSoftİ Software
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
>+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
>1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
>**********************************
>

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:38:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gail Adams <gadams@remc7.k12.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Auction stuff...

I like mine alot!  Looking forward to the Lansing Show.  The 66 has been 
selected for the parade!  I hope it doesn't overheat.  It really doesn't 
like parades
Tom Adams

On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, jones wrote:

> >
> > For Waler: 66 Delta 88 Convertable
> > Sorry, none shown...
> I should have known, I never have seen another one of these for sale or
> otherwise.  I wonder if I am the only one that likes these cars or if they
> are just not many left?
> Walter
> 

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 17:07:01 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: Re: headers don't fit.......

Patton wrote:
> 
> no one today makes 64-67 small block headers. I tried a pair of 68-72
> headers
> no dice.......
> 
> ----------
> > From: dhamlett@mitec.net
> > To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> > Subject: Re: headers don't fit.......
> > Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 2:27 PM
> >
> > Patton wrote:
> > >
> > > Fellow Rocketteers,
> > >                 I can't find headers to fit ( although the listing says
> so) my
> > > 455 powered 67' CS ragtop. Engine is in stock location. It should be a
> > > direct swap
> > > for the 330. Problem is two tubes on the driver side hit the steering
> > > column. I tried the
> > > hammer method but now have minimal clearance. No room for header wrap.
> > >
> > >                                                 Thanks
> > >                                                 PATTON
> > > "Compared too 442's all other forms of human endeavor shrink to
> > > insignificance"
> >
> > Does someone make headers for 66-7 330's?
> > --
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >       Dan Hamlett
> >       1966 Cutlass Convertible
> >       1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
> >       mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
> >       http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
> > -----------------------------------------

What about 400 bb headers?
- -- 

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
- -----------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:22:42 -0400
From: "bill " <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Subject: Re: 6 volt headlight

Hemmings Motor News is probably your best source for something like that. 
Also, check with people in your area who own Model A's and similar cars as
I am sure they have the same problems.

- ----------
> From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> To: Lewman
> Subject: 6 volt headlight
> Date: Thursday, July 31, 1997 11:35 PM
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a source for antique lightbulbs?  I have a 1929 Olds 2 
> Dr with a 6 volt electrical system and on of my lightbulbs has the low 
> beam burnt out.  Is there a source for these things?
> 
> Bob Neumann
> 
> 1929 2 DR
> Garage full of 1970 w-30 parts.

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:39:59 -0400
From: "bill " <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Subject: Re: $ Exchange rate

Try visiting this site

http://www.dna.lth.se/cgi-bin/kurt/rates/rates?CAD+USD

- ----------
> From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> To: Lewman
> Subject: $ Exchange rate
> Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 4:26 PM
> 
> 
> I've been following the price information on cars & parts in preparation
> to eventually rejoin the merry world of Oldsmobiling. I'd really
> appreciate it if someone would please give the rate of exchange between
> Canadian and US $. Thanks!
> /jw
> 
> Visit my homepage (currently under construction)!
> http://members.tripod.com/~walkerjim/index.html

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 19:04:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: MLyons8884@aol.com
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #782

In a message dated 97-08-03 12:38:09 EDT, you write:

<< oldsmobile-digest-owner@chebucto.ns.ca >>
I have tired to unsubscirbe with no luck.  Please remove me from this list
Chris
MLyons8884@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:59:34 -0700
From: "Suzanne Rousseau" <ewok@clarkston.com>
Subject: Re: headers don't fit.......

> Fellow Rocketteers,
> 		I can't find headers to fit ( although the listing says so) my
> 455 powered 67' CS ragtop. Engine is in stock location. It should be a
> direct swap
> for the 330. Problem is two tubes on the driver side hit the steering
> column. I tried the
> hammer method but now have minimal clearance. No room for header wrap. 

What kind of headers do you have??  I bought Hedman Hedders for my '67 442
with a 455, and they fit fine with only minimal denting of the tubes.  Just
tell them that you have a 400, since no 455 was available in '67 (this
problem has arisen at several auto parts stores, "...But my computer
doesn't show a 455 in your car..."  Yes yes I know, it's really a 400 that
I bored 55 cubic inches over)  Many times I have been sold parts for '68-72
because I specify a 455 engine, when I need 400 parts for my '67.  The joys
of an engine swap....

Paul Rousseau
*1967 442

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 19:51:09 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: Leaky master cylinder

My 69 442 has power disc brakes.  They were converted a few years ago
using supposedly used parts from a 69.  There is a metering valve at the
master cylinder.....for 69 only I believe.  It also has a proportional
valve (original I think) located on the frame.  The master cylinder is
fairly new and looks like the type used for yrs 70-72 (rectangular).  I
have very low manifold vaccum due to a radical cam.  NOW THE
PROBLEM...The master cylinder leaks frequently from the cover.  I've
changed the cover and gasket at least twice...still leaking.  Can
someone suggest a solution to prevent the leak.  Looks like !#*?  Wayne

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:54:51 -0400
From: taxlady@sbccom.com (Sieglinde Kuzava)
Subject: RE:  Auction prices, plus a ? for the list

For Mike Hall:  auction price for 1978 Cutlass Supreme, please?

Anybody out there know if I can swap out the stock windshield wiper motor
(hi-lo only) on my '78 Cutlass Supreme for a motor and control with an
intermittent option (perhaps from a newer Olds?)  Even if this is possible,
would the new control switch fit in the stock location without having to
mangle the dash - I don't want to change the appearance dashwise but I live
in an area with lots of sprinkly rain and having to turn the wipers on,
off, on, off gets old after awhile, 'specially if you're a left-handed
driver.  TIA

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:02:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: W Machine question

On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, John Oder wrote:
> I have a 70 SX W-32 that was built in Lansing, Mich.  The person I
> bought the car from told me that all W machines were built there, but I
> have seen that some of the other list members with W machines were not.
> Could someone please give me some information on this.  Thanks,

John, one of my buddies up here has a '70 SX that is a factory W-32 car 
which was built in Linden, NJ. I wonder if the info you quoted only 
applies to the W-30 and W-31 cars?

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:01:47 -0700
From: mefco@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: 1964-65 442/Cutlass info update...

Scott,
Don't forget randy Alderfer's 64 442 convt.

Art Fuller

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:59:54 -0400
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: Differential ID & swap

>The rear axle assemblies that directly fit are 71-72 Olds F-85 station
>wagons, but '68 Buick Special & Olds F85, '69-70 will interchange w/brake
>cylinder differences.
>
>> I blew out the rear end in my Vista Cruiser and checked with a friend who
>>had a Hollander Interchange manual which ones would fit.  Unfortunately, I
>>no longer have the list, but I do remember that there was something
>>different about the VC's rear end.  There was only a limited number of
>>rears that would fit.  I got a 12 bolt out of a 68 Cutlass Coupe.  If
>>someone on the list has access to an interchange manual, could they please
>>post which rears will fit on a 72 VC.

Well, one big difference would be the width of the rear drum brake shoes
(2.5", vs. non-VC 2"). I believe that the mounting locations are the same,
but that brake size would make a difference in braking ability, so I imagine
that's why they don't recommend other rears as a direct interchange.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 20:14:22 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: FS: Olds Stuff

In todays Omaha Weird Hearld:

"1965 Olds 442 engine, $425; parting out 1965 Vista Cruiser, rust free
quarters and doors. (402)734-6510 or 731-5240"

Disclaimer blah, dont know em, blah,never talked to em, blah, etc, blah
- -- 

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
- -----------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:37:15 -0400
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: J heads

>I've been given a pair of rebuilt J heads with 2.07 intake valves and
>1.68 exhaust.  I've been told that the J heads are not as desirable as
>other heads.  They do have larger valves than some.  Can someone explain
>why the J heads perform less effectively if such is the case.  My
>acquaintenances can't give me a reason to back up their comments.

The ports on the J heads are smaller than on other heads. They can be ported
to flow well, though. Those 2.07/1.68 valves are non-standard sizes
(actually from a '72 442 MT application). If you're going to port these
heads, and they're free, there's absolutely no reason to not use them. The
combustion chambers should be the same size as virtually all other Big-block
combustion chambers: 80cc.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:40:50 -0400
From: evans1@serv01.net-link.net
Subject: '76 Cutlass rear end help

Hi, all...

I have a '76 Cutlass that we are contemplating using only for bracket/very 
limited street duty with a serious 455/TH400 setup....what rear end setup 
has anyone had good experience with, and what make/year did that setup come 
from? Thanks in advance for any help!


Mike Evans
Richland, MI
evans1@net-link.net

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:41:49 -0400
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: oldsmobile parts

>Dear sirs, I own a 1977 Olds 98 and its not going to take a whole lot of work
>to make it new again. I do need some parts and was wondering if you could
>steer me in the right direction. Any help will be appreciated. 

Well, all your mechanical and chassis parts should be available at your
local parts stores. Body parts and interior/trim parts are not reproduced,
are discontinued by GM, and therefore are only available in junkyards.

If you could be more specific as to what your car needed, we could probably
be more helpful.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:00:47 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: W Machine question

At 10:02 PM 8/3/97 -0300, you wrote:
>On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, John Oder wrote:
>> I have a 70 SX W-32 that was built in Lansing, Mich.  The person I
>> bought the car from told me that all W machines were built there, but I
>> have seen that some of the other list members with W machines were not.
>> Could someone please give me some information on this.  Thanks,
>
>John, one of my buddies up here has a '70 SX that is a factory W-32 car 
>which was built in Linden, NJ. I wonder if the info you quoted only 
>applies to the W-30 and W-31 cars?
>
>Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>

For all:

        The SX W-32's weren't made with hand assembled engines like the
W-30's and W-31's. That's why you'll see them made in other plants just like
regular 442's That's the same engine as the W-32 in the SX. About some of
the other W's. The Toro's were all built in Lansing then so even the W-34's
will all be Lansing cars, but the W-33 Delta's could have benn from any
plant just like the SX's. Just my $.02.

Jim Chermack 

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:54:12 -0400
From: Ken <olds442@en.com>
Subject: Re: $ Exchange rate

Wayne Schwartz wrote:
> 
> Jim Walker wrote:
> >
> > I've been following the price information on cars & parts in preparation
> > to eventually rejoin the merry world of Oldsmobiling. I'd really
> > appreciate it if someone would please give the rate of exchange between
> > Canadian and US $. Thanks!
> > /jw
> >
> > Visit my homepage (currently under construction)!
> > http://members.tripod.com/~walkerjim/index.html
> Although the exchange rate fluctuates a little, usually $.73US will buy
> $1.00 CDN

 Speaking of exchange rates.. I'm going to Toronto towards the end of
the week. Does anyone know how it works if I charge stuff on my Visa
from a U.S. Bank?

Ken

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:12:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: SAdelstein@aol.com
Subject: Please take me off the mailing list

I am grateful for the advice that I have received from the mailing list, but
now after a few months of the mailing list I please ask that I be taken off
the mailing list.  Thank you.

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:16:54 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: BB heads

Matt,

        You'll need to have the block tapped out to 1/2 inch head bolts to
secure the big block heads. Some of the later small blocks had these, so
it's very easily done. Of note, this will drop your compression ratio about
one full point or more depending on head selected to go on the small block.
The 350 can handle them, but anything smaller these heads are way too big.
If your hoping up your 330 then put a set of 71-72 "7A" cylinder heads on
it. These have bigger valves than your 330 and are compatible with unleaded
gas. The ports are a little larger also. This will give you the smaller
combustion chamber and bigger valves. Another thing, if you put big block
heads on a small block you must use a Edelbrock Preformer RPM or a W-31
intake manifold for the extra meat in the port area for sealing. If you have
any other question please ask.

Jim Chermack  


>Yes it is, BUT........... from what I understand, the pushrod guide holes
>need to be drilled out to 7/16" . I'm not sure about the valve seals, but
>that info can be found out by contacting Jim Chermack. He knows someone
>in the Va. Beach area that has done this (to wondrous satisfaction). I
>would consider this guy better than Mondello. 
>Rob 
>
>Katana72          "It's NOT yourDaddy's Oldsmobile !!!!!    Hastings, MN
>On Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:05:09 -0500 Matt Cremean
><ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu> writes:
>>Is it possible to put BB heads on a 350?
>>-- 

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:12:46 -0500
From: John Oder <jaoder@navix.net>
Subject: Re: W Machine question

Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada) wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> > 70 Cuda Conv. 383
> 
> A fellow coworker's husband is dying (literally :-) to have this car.
> Any chance of selling it?
> 
> Chris Sparks
Sorry it would be too hard to find a replacement, this is the only Vert
that I had seen.  Now that I have got one I have seen a couple of
others, there was only about 1100 Barracuda convertabiles made, and
about 560 of these where Cuda's.  Mine is a Cuda clone, it came from the
factory as a 383 2/bbl which there were 59 produced, it would probably
be worth a little more to a collector if I would put it back stock but
I  don't think I'll ever do it, I like it better the way it is fixed up
now. 

John

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:15:38 -0500
From: John Oder <jaoder@navix.net>
Subject: Re: W Machine question

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, John Oder wrote:
> > I have a 70 SX W-32 that was built in Lansing, Mich.  The person I
> > bought the car from told me that all W machines were built there, but I
> > have seen that some of the other list members with W machines were not.
> > Could someone please give me some information on this.  Thanks,
> 
> John, one of my buddies up here has a '70 SX that is a factory W-32 car
> which was built in Linden, NJ. I wonder if the info you quoted only
> applies to the W-30 and W-31 cars?
> 
> Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Greg,

I might well be, I am just going by what the previous owner told me
about W machines.

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:22:32 -0400
From: evans1@serv01.net-link.net
Subject: Looking for '76 Cutlass driver door

Anyone have any information leading to the whereabouts of a solid driver 
door for a '76 Cutlass S?  I would consider a solid frame that needs 
reskinning, but I'd prefer a complete rustfree unit *of course!*.  Car is a 
two-door, no power windows or locks....thanks for the help!


Mike Evans
Richland, MI
evans1@net-link.net

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:17:17 -0500
From: John Oder <jaoder@navix.net>
Subject: Re: W Machine question

Jim & Joanne Chermack wrote:
> 
> At 10:02 PM 8/3/97 -0300, you wrote:
> >On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, John Oder wrote:
> >> I have a 70 SX W-32 that was built in Lansing, Mich.  The person I
> >> bought the car from told me that all W machines were built there, but I
> >> have seen that some of the other list members with W machines were not.
> >> Could someone please give me some information on this.  Thanks,
> >
> >John, one of my buddies up here has a '70 SX that is a factory W-32 car
> >which was built in Linden, NJ. I wonder if the info you quoted only
> >applies to the W-30 and W-31 cars?
> >
> >Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
> >
> >
> 
> For all:
> 
>         The SX W-32's weren't made with hand assembled engines like the
> W-30's and W-31's. That's why you'll see them made in other plants just like
> regular 442's That's the same engine as the W-32 in the SX. About some of
> the other W's. The Toro's were all built in Lansing then so even the W-34's
> will all be Lansing cars, but the W-33 Delta's could have benn from any
> plant just like the SX's. Just my $.02.
> 
> Jim Chermack
Thanks for clearing that up for me Jim.

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:32:11 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for replacement panels

At 04:31 PM 6/19/97 -0300, you wrote:
>I am restoring a '65 F-85 convertible and I can't seem to find anyplace
>that has patch panels for the rear quarters. I was wondering if anyone knew
>where I could locate them. Thank you 
>
>Jason
>lwolf@skypoint.com
>

Jason

        I have a friend that has a 65 Cutlass Conv. shell with a great
passenger side quater. He would want $450.00 for it plus shipping. This is
the whole quarter.

JIm Chermack
C&M Classic Parts 

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:31:55 -0400
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: $ Exchange rate

At 09:54 PM 8/3/97 -0400, you wrote:

> Speaking of exchange rates.. I'm going to Toronto towards the end of
>the week. Does anyone know how it works if I charge stuff on my Visa
>from a U.S. Bank?
>
>Ken

I've heard that this is usually the _best_ way to make a purchase in a
foreign country.  The bank who issued your Visa can usually get a better
exchange rate than you could personally trying to convert your U.S. dollars
to foreign and then paying cash.  When you get your bill for your Visa from
your bank, you will write a check to the bank in U.S. dollars.  The bank
changes the U.S. dollars into the foreign currency and then makes the
payment to the foreign store you made the purchase at.  So it's in the
bank's interest to get the best rate of exchange.  And you don't have to
hassle with exchanging money and carrying it around.  


Dan


************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
************************************************

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:42:49 -0400
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Re: $ Exchange rate

Ken wrote:
> 
> Wayne Schwartz wrote:
> >
> > Jim Walker wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been following the price information on cars & parts in preparation
> > > to eventually rejoin the merry world of Oldsmobiling. I'd really
> > > appreciate it if someone would please give the rate of exchange between
> > > Canadian and US $. Thanks!
> > > /jw
> > >
> > > Visit my homepage (currently under construction)!
> > > http://members.tripod.com/~walkerjim/index.html
> > Although the exchange rate fluctuates a little, usually $.73US will buy
> > $1.00 CDN
> 
>  Speaking of exchange rates.. I'm going to Toronto towards the end of
> the week. Does anyone know how it works if I charge stuff on my Visa
> from a U.S. Bank?
> 
> Ken

Hi Ken,

Just charge away, and let Visa do all of the work for you.  When I was
in the U.S. a few years ago, my parents ran up a large Visa bill, and
the currencies were automatically calculated.  If you were to spend
$375.00 Canadian (in one shot), your statement would read:

$273.75	($375.00 CDN @ $0.7325 USD)

I'm from Canada, which helps, and so does having a bank manager for a
mother.

S. Dave Ward   (Peterborough, Ontario, CANADA)

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:46:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Lansing Question!!!

Hello Olds Fans,
       I'm debating with my son wether I should take my 1970 Cutlass w31 in
the caravan from Illinois to Lansing! My son says that I should go for it,
but I'm not sure! Will there be help in the caravan? I'm in the OCA and they
gave me a little info but I'm worried about that also! What about when we
park our cars at night? It would be easy for someone to steal parts from my
engine! Will there be security at the hotels?

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:47:06 -0400
From: "Terry Teague" <dawgs@conninc.com>
Subject: Re: Leaky master cylinder

Wayne Schwartz wrote:

> My 69 442 has power disc brakes.  They were converted a few years ago
> using supposedly used parts from a 69.  There is a metering valve at
> the
> master cylinder.....for 69 only I believe.  It also has a proportional
>
> valve (original I think) located on the frame.  The master cylinder is
>
> fairly new and looks like the type used for yrs 70-72 (rectangular).
> I
> have very low manifold vaccum due to a radical cam.  NOW THE
> PROBLEM...The master cylinder leaks frequently from the cover.  I've
> changed the cover and gasket at least twice...still leaking.  Can
> someone suggest a solution to prevent the leak.  Looks like !#*?
> Wayne

  Wayne do you by chance have a chrome cover on the master cylinder?  I
f not don't put one but you might try changing the cover for another one
and see if this helps.

Terry Teague
68 Delta Custom

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:48:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: W-machines newsletter? are you intrested?

Hello, a fellow owner of Oldsmobiles and I have decided to make a monthly
newsletter dedicated to the W-machines. Are you intrested? Tell me about what
you think and what you would like to see!

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 97 22:50:06 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: RE:  Auction prices, plus a ? for the list

For Sieglinde Kuzava: 1978 Cutlass Supreme

78' Cutlass Supremes not shown but 78' Cutlass Coupes are...

High: $7,500
Low: $5,600
Average: $6,366.67 



Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Oldsmobile Stable:
     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...    
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:11:02 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

Mike Hall wrote:
 
> A 1968 Olds 98 Two Door Convertible, #3 condition, SOLD for $45,000.
> 
> That's right, SOLD for 45 grand! The buyer had put the reserve at $8,300,
> guess the new buyer made his day...and #3 condition to boot, strange...
> It was a 455 car as well...

OK, I've got a '67, so this is territory where I feel safe in treading.

I think it's safe to say that there is NO '68 98 convertible (especially
a #3) that is worth $45K.  This is obviously a typo.  I heard of a low
mileage, one owner that was just purchased locally for $4000.  It's on
its way to the Netherlands.

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:06:52 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Oil Pressure and carpet/headliner color

mjones@dragon.gleep.com wrote:

> 2.  My Delta has a Carmine interior.  I need a new headliner and carpet,
> because the headliner is sagging and the carpet is torn up.  What color
> closely matches Carmine?  In my J.C. Whitney catalog some of their kits
> have "Firethorn Red" and "Red" and "Maroon/Burgandy"..  I am totally
> lost on this one, due to the fact the Calif. sun has worn the finish off
> a number of my interior panels (probably will repaint to original
> color).
> 
> Thank you
> Mike Jones
> '78 88 2Dr.

We had a '77 Cutlass Supreme that had a Firethorn interior.  I believe
it's very similar to the Carmine that I have seen in the '78s and '79s.

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:13:37 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Oil Pan-- Centennial swap spots

Kevin Hoopingarner wrote:
 
> Also,  does anyone know how much vendor/swap spots are in Lansing this
> year???  Are any left??

Hu Vandervort, President of the NOAC and involved with planning of the
Centennial told me yesterday that there are appox. 400 vendors scheduled
to be in Lansing.

He did not tell me if there are any spaces left.  Call Steve DeNovi. 
He's in charge of the swap meet.

Paul 
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:25:51 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

Mike Hall wrote:
 
> 1960 Super 88 Convertible (#2), $77,750 (Guess we need to keep our eyes
> open for these...)

I think you need a book.  I don't see any reason why even a 98
convertible would go for $77K.  They aren't THAT rare or THAT desirable.

> 1953 Fiesta Convertible (#2), $52,000 (Eyes open for these too.)
> 1953 Fiesta Convertible (#2), $47,500

Now, there prices are fairly normal.  You know, they only built about
400 of these.  There arent' many surviving and they don't change hands
often.  A few years ago they were much higher in value.

> 1968 Cutlass Convertible (#3) $34,500  (WOW!)
> 1970 442 Convertible (#3) $28,000  (For a #3 ???)

Again, I think this book wasn't proof-read.  Why would anyone in their
right mind pay $34K for a #3 Cutlass convertible???

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:07:33 -0400
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Lansing Question!!!

DROLDS350@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hello Olds Fans,
>        I'm debating with my son wether I should take my 1970 Cutlass w31 in
> the caravan from Illinois to Lansing! My son says that I should go for it,
> but I'm not sure! Will there be help in the caravan? I'm in the OCA and they
> gave me a little info but I'm worried about that also! What about when we
> park our cars at night? It would be easy for someone to steal parts from my
> engine! Will there be security at the hotels?


If I were to bring my Olds to Lansing, I'd let you park beside me.  That
way any thief would see my car first, and then walk away, knowing that
there's nothing worth stealing...except a bag of rust.

S. Dave Ward

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:09:13 -0400
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Cooked Compressor...

Hi all,

I ran into a problem today while I was driving it in the back-40.  The
v-belts need replacing as it is--they squeal a little at start-up. 
Anyway, I've noticed a whine under the hood, and I finally isolated
it...the compressor bearings.  The A/C hasn't worked for a few years,
and I don't have the cash flow to fix it, so could I just remove the
v-belt from it?  It wouldn't hurt anything, would it?  A new compressor
would be nice, but the $$$ presents a problem.  I've got a long list of
things to fix before the A/C, such as the brake system, new rubber, and
a paint job.  Besides, that's one less v-belt I have to buy...

Any response would be greatly appreciated!

S. Dave Ward

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:13:36 -0500
From: Shang <shoover@flash.net>
Subject: 403 swap

I am thinking about buying a rebuild engine outright from PAW. How much
trouble is there involved with the motor mounts on the 403? I have a '70
Cutlass and I know that the motor has center engine mounts. When my
friend put a '77 model 400 (pontiac) in his '70 LeMans, I remember him
having to drill the frame to suit the front-style mounts. Anyone have
any info on this kind of swap?

Thanks.


Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
'70 Cutlass "S"

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:16:13 -0400
From: "Steve B." <steveb@thecia.net>
Subject: Re: J heads

Robert Barry wrote:
> 
> >I've been given a pair of rebuilt J heads with 2.07 intake valves and
> >1.68 exhaust.  I've been told that the J heads are not as desirable as
> >other heads.  They do have larger valves than some.  Can someone explain
> >why the J heads perform less effectively if such is the case.  My
> >acquaintenances can't give me a reason to back up their comments.
> 
> The ports on the J heads are smaller than on other heads. They can be ported
> to flow well, though. Those 2.07/1.68 valves are non-standard sizes
> (actually from a '72 442 MT application). If you're going to port these
> heads, and they're free, there's absolutely no reason to not use them. The
> combustion chambers should be the same size as virtually all other Big-block
> combustion chambers: 80cc.
> _______________________________________________________
> Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
> Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

When I brought my J heads to the machine shop for a valve job and a
guide replaced I found out that I had the 2.00 intakes (I didn't mic
them before I dropped them off) and in talking to the machinist I found
out that some J heads in '73 did come from the factory with the 2.07
intakes. These heads were on the Toronado's and the 442's equipped with
manual trans...

Steve
71 Cutlass S 455
93 Mustang LX 5.0

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:22:20 -0400
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Olds Humour...

While I was sitting at a stoplight today, I saw a guy sitting in a
Rustang convertible, and he was wearing a t-shirt that read:

"If it weren't for my Olds, all my tools would be rusty!"

I was less than impressed about this, and I let him know about it:  he
started saying stuff about GMC, which I was driving, and I replied with
some of my anti-Ford lines.  It was an interesting conversation:

"Garbage Man's Companion!" he says...

"Fix Or Repair Daily!"  I said...

"Can Hear Every Valve Rattle On Lifter Every Time!"

"Found On Road Dead!  Driver Returns On Foot!

When the light went green, he lit up the tires, shifted into second, and
stalled it, looking like an idiot.  Then I used my clean-up line:

"F**ked On Race Day!"

I thought that I should share this with everybody...it certainly made my
day.  A full-size 4x4 made a 5-liter look like a wind-up toy...

S. Dave Ward

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:27:50 -0400
From: "Terry Teague" <dawgs@conninc.com>
Subject: Re: Cooked Compressor...

Dave Ward wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I ran into a problem today while I was driving it in the back-40.  The
>
> v-belts need replacing as it is--they squeal a little at start-up.
> Anyway, I've noticed a whine under the hood, and I finally isolated
> it...the compressor bearings.  The A/C hasn't worked for a few years,
> and I don't have the cash flow to fix it, so could I just remove the
> v-belt from it?  It wouldn't hurt anything, would it?  A new
> compressor
> would be nice, but the $$$ presents a problem.  I've got a long list
> of
> things to fix before the A/C, such as the brake system, new rubber,
> and
> a paint job.  Besides, that's one less v-belt I have to buy...
>
> Any response would be greatly appreciated!
>
> S. Dave Ward
>
> '78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
> '85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
> '91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

   Dave if all the belt runs is the compressor   take if off no
problem...

Terry Teague
68 Delta Cusatom

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:47:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: BMAN6771@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds Humour...

way to go dave!!!!!!!

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 23:45:59 -0500
From: "padavano.joe" <padavano.joe@Orbital.COM>
Subject: Re[2]: Differential ID & swap

..Well, one big difference would be the width of the rear drum brake shoes 
(2.5", vs. non-VC 2")...
     
     I've often wondered if the difference in the brake width is 
     accommodated with different backing plates and drums, or if the axle 
     is actually a different width.  Given GM's maximum use of common parts 
     if at all possible, I'd be willing to bet that both the wheel 
     flange-to-wheel flange dimension and the axle housing width are the 
     same for VC and non-VC rear ends, with the 1/2" per side difference 
     taken up by VC-unique backing plates.  If this is true, this would be 
     an easy way to get a 25% increase in brake swept area on a 442.  
     Anybody have a VC and a tape measure handy?
     
     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com
     
     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 23:39:33 -0500
From: "padavano.joe" <padavano.joe@Orbital.COM>
Subject: Re: Leaky master cylinder

My 69 442 has power disc brakes....NOW THE PROBLEM...The master cylinder 
leaks frequently from the cover.  I've changed the cover and gasket at 
least twice...still leaking.  Can someone suggest a solution to prevent 
the leak.  Looks like !#*?  Wayne
     
     Wayne,
     
     I don't know if this is your problem, but I have a unique problem with 
     the master cylinder in my Ch*vy truck which may be related.  The truck 
     uses the similar master cylinder with the large reservoir for the 
     front disc brakes and the small reservoir for the back drum brakes.  
     Keep in mind that normally, as the disc pads wear the brake fluid 
     level in the larger reservoir will go down, while the small reservoir 
     should remain at the same level.  On my truck, the small reservoir 
     looses fluid (there are no leaks in the system), while the large 
     reservoir will gain fluid until it overflows!
     
     This has had me perplexed for a long time, until I figured that there 
     must be a leak in the piston seals within the master cylinder.  What 
     must be happening is that fluid from the rear brakes must be leaking 
     past the seal at the piston and being forced into the front braking 
     circuit.  This then causes the larger reservoir to overflow, leading 
     to leaking brake fluid.  (Actually, as I write this, it occurs to me 
     that the leak could also be in the proportioning valve/brake light 
     switch block).
     
     Is your leakage from both halves of the master cylinder, or does one 
     side seem to fill up while the other loses fluid?  If this is not the 
     case, alternatives may be a cap retaining bale which has loosened up 
     (perhaps become bent out of shape), a crack in the master cylinder 
     casting, or an unevenly machined top surface on the master cylinder 
     (this could be easily checked with a straightedge and a feeler gauge).
     
     Hope this helps. 
     
     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com
     
     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 23:21:43 -0500
From: "padavano.joe" <padavano.joe@Orbital.COM>
Subject: RWD Aurora power

Fantasy 2:  What if a person could put a modified Northstar into a "A" 
body car?
Can this be done?
     
Oh well....
     
Chris Sparks
     
     Well, given enough money...  Seriously, though, Oldsmobile Motorsports 
     now has a number of parts available to mount the Aurora/Northstar in 
     the north/south configuration.  A couple of years ago at the LA auto 
     show, the Olds stand had the chassis of an IMSA car on display with an 
     Aurora bolted to a transaxle and sporting a cool looking set of 
     organ-pipe EFI injectors.  While I think it would be cool to put this 
     in an A-body, 300 hp and 300 ft-lb of torque just don't excite me 
     after driving a 455 with 370 (rated) hp and 500 ft-lb of torque.  Even 
     if you assume the Aurora engine weighs 300 lbs less than the 455, this 
     is still a 3300 lb car!  It would, however, be the closest we'd ever 
     come to owning a W-43 (the experimental, almost-put-into-production 
     four valve hemi 455 Olds from the late 60s).  On the other hand, an 
     Aurora in a G-body (replacing the 180 hp 307) might make more sense.
     
     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com
     
     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30

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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:03:39 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: 403 swap

At 10:13 PM 8/3/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I am thinking about buying a rebuild engine outright from PAW. How much
>trouble is there involved with the motor mounts on the 403? I have a '70
>Cutlass and I know that the motor has center engine mounts. When my
>friend put a '77 model 400 (pontiac) in his '70 LeMans, I remember him
>having to drill the frame to suit the front-style mounts. Anyone have
>any info on this kind of swap?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas
70 Cutlass "S"

Stephen

        It's a bolt-in swap. It has the same dimensions as a 350 small
block. All the holes are the same too. You wouldn't tell the difference
unless you knew what codes on the engine to look for.

Jim Chermack

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 97 23:59:23 -0500
From: "padavano.joe" <padavano.joe@Orbital.COM>
Subject: Re: W-machines newsletter? are you intrested?

     
Hello, a fellow owner of Oldsmobiles and I have decided to make a monthly 
newsletter dedicated to the W-machines. Are you intrested? Tell me about what 
you think and what you would like to see!
     
     I'd be interested.  Will this be electronic or paper?
     
     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com
     
     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30

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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:07:15 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: W-43 Production

Hey All

        I was talking with Ken Reese of Specialty Olds last week and he
mentioned that there should be a restored A-body chassis at the Nationals
this year with the W-43 Hemi 455 installed in it. Can't wait to see this
monster. Gotta get some pictures of that.

Jim Chermack

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 00:07:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Yorcoy@aol.com
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

70 supreme cutlass convert.

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:37:35 -0700
From: kdporter <kdporter@midwest.net>
Subject: turbo 400 swap in g-body

- -- 
Hi all,
Well they say a good build turbo 350 can handle the torque of a 455.
I learned the hard way my 455 decided to turn my t-350 into mush.The
t-350 i had was completely rebuild using all A-1 racing
internals,including a manual valve body from A-1,worked great on the
drag strip for 2 years,running 7.70s all night {1/8 mile}in my 72
cutlass.
	I installed the t-350 in my 84 cutlass when my 200m decided to go
worked great behind the original 307 for 4 months.I installed a mild
build 455 in the 84 the t-350 did good intill i took it to the drag
strip last night,i had a major traction proplems {do to 2.41 gears no
posi,street tires} the trans worked great no problems at the strip,but
on the way home about 14 miles,the trans started to make a whine about 5
miles from home by the time i got home the car would hardly move,the
trans is toast. 
	My question is this,has anyone installed a turbo 400 in a g-body? 
 Thanks for listening

70'rallye 350
84 cutlass 455 power 
kdporter@midwest.net

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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:49:49 -0400
From: dgerow@stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: Popular Mechanics

Ok, am I really late in the game here, or am I just a fool?
Anyone see the shoot out in the August Isse of Popular Mechanics between
vintage iron and them new-fangled plastic cars?  How about that W-30 eh?

- --
Daniel R. Gerow
WSHL-FM 91.3
Stonehill College Radio
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http://www.stonehill.edu
http://www.stonehill.edu/wshl
http://www2.stonehill.edu/~dgerow
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