
oldsmobile-digest        Sunday, August 3 1997        Volume 01 : Number 782



Re: BB heads
Junkyard Visit
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Oil Pan-- Centennial swap spots
Upholstery Question
Re: "F" Stamping
Re: Oil Pan-- Centennial swap spots
Re: Auction prices...
FS - '65 conv boot
Re: Differential ID & swap
Gas Cap?
overheating at hwy speeds
'69 Posi rear end
Re: Brake Part Question
Re: Auction prices...
Battery ?
Re: Battery ?
Re: Battery ?
Motor needed
Re: Battery ?
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Auction prices...
Toro engine for 455 build
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Toro engine for 455 build
Re: Junkyard Visit
Re: Toro engine for 455 build
Good 350s...help please, advice needed.
Re: '69 Posi rear end
Re: BB heads
Re: Differential ID & swap
Re: Upholstery Question
Blower won't Blow
J heads
Re: FUSICK CLOSED?
Starfire running again
Re: FUSICK CLOSED?
Re: J heads
Auction stuff...
1980 holiday 88
Re: Auction prices...
Re: "F" Stamping
Re: Battery ?
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.
Re: Blower won't Blow
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Auction prices...
oldsmobile parts
Re: Auction prices...
Re: Battery
Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.
Re: Upholstery Question
Re: Brake Part Question
Aurora powered Fiero 
Re: Auction stuff...
Re: Aurora powered Fiero
[Fwd: Re: Battery]
Remove please
W Machine question
Re: W Machine question
Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:45:45 +0600
From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Subject: Re: BB heads

>Is it possible to put BB heads on a 350?

Possible, but not reccomended.  The heads should physically bolt onto the
block but the intake would not line up without some serious modification.
And the compression would be all goofed up.  The larger compression chamber
of the BB heads are too big, you'd end up with something like 6:1
compression.  I think that I read in the FAQ that BB valves are overkill on
a small block, unless you're turning some major revs.  

Greg Pruett
72 Vista Cruiser 
67 Cutlass Supreme

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:35:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Junkyard Visit

Visited Ross Salvage today looking for parts for my Delta. Found a few 
things but more interesting was what is out in the yard.

He has a '70 Cutlass convert that is admittedly very, very rough, but is
parting out, if there is anything useful left on it (grilles and headlight
bezels, possibly, that might be all). Also a '67 Cutlass convert, very
rough. A new addition is a '72 Vista Cruiser, equally rough but with lots
of good parts. He has already pulled the 3.08 posi and apparently has
turned down $500 Cdn. for it. Also has a 455. Some pieces are left,
including grilles that looked OK. If anyone is interested in specific
things let me know. This stuff is all in Nova Scotia. 

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:46:14 -0500
From: "jones" <jones@morgan.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

. If anyone would like to know the 
> average and highs/lows for their particular Olds, please let me know and 
> I will publish here...
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
I would like to know what it says about out 66 Delta 88 Convertable. I have
never seen another one for sale so I dont have much to compare to. We
bought it for $3,500 in November and I haven't had to do much to it since.
It is a # 3 car ( in my opinon anyway). 
Thanks in advance 
Waler

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:51:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Oil Pan-- Centennial swap spots

kevin,what are you trying to sell now? not another pick up is it?, are you
going to lansing?   steven. w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:56:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Upholstery Question

If anyone out there is familiar with the upholstery business, I have a 
question.

We've all seen the upholstery kits for the '68-72 A-body cars. Are there 
similar kits (or, I suppose, GM pieces) for later-model cars like my '78 
Delta? How would you go about re-upholstering something like this so that 
it looks factory? 

What about the headliners? How would you go about replacing or repairing 
that "panty cloth" material they used?

Just curious more than anything. 

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:06:54 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: "F" Stamping

- ----------
> From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: "F" Stamping
> Date: Saturday, August 02, 1997 12:00 PM
> 
> 
> Bob.....where do I look for the F code.....can I see it without pulling
> the engine.  Wayne

Wayne the F code I speak of is behind the Flywheel or Flexplate usually on
the right upper side
So you would have to remove the engine to read the Stamping

Bob

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 14:04:41 -0400
From: Rick Anderson <randerson@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Oil Pan-- Centennial swap spots

Kevin Hoopingarner wrote:
> 
> I ran across a rather odd looking oil pan the other day and wondered what it
> came off of.  The pan is somewhat offset with respect to the block.  Shifted
> to what to the drivers side of the car if I'm not mistaken.  It also has a
> crank scraper that channels the oil off of the crank back to the sump area
> of the pan.  It then has a windage try near the sump.  The plumbing for the
> pick up is also rather odd with several extensions which lower it deeper
> into the pan.  The engine is a 68-72 455ci that was in a boat.  I was
> wondering if anyone has seen anything like this before.  (Is this a toro pan??)
> 
> Also,  does anyone know how much vendor/swap spots are in Lansing this
> year???  Are any left??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kevin Hoopingarner
> '70 Olds 442 W-30
> Findlay OH.

It sounds like a circle track (oval racing) pan.  It was offset so even
with the centrifugal(sp?) force due to driving in a circle the oil pump
would always have plenty of oil to suck on.

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 14:17:32 -0400
From: Al Barlow <iamoz@ime.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

At 11:46 AM 8/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>. If anyone would like to know the 
>> average and highs/lows for their particular Olds, please let me know and 
>> I will publish here...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>I would like to know what it says about out 66 Delta 88 Convertable. I have
>never seen another one for sale so I dont have much to compare to. We
>bought it for $3,500 in November and I haven't had to do much to it since.
>It is a # 3 car ( in my opinon anyway). 
>Thanks in advance 
>Waler
>
>Mike,
Can you give me the prices on the following cars?
1971 olds 442 convertible, 455 automatic, numbers matching, #2 condition.
1972 olds cutlass supreme convertible, factory air, 350 2bbl automatic,
rough shape but mostly there with solid frame. Matching numbers.

Thanks
Al

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:21:13 -0300
From: The Sugarmans <sugarman@berkshire.net>
Subject: FS - '65 conv boot

'65 Cutlass Convertible Boot (red)  -  $40 + sh

Original - Carmine Red (I think). It is in excellent condition, having
been used only about 10 or 15 times in the 5 years my parents owned the
car. When not in use, was stored in the black plastic bag it was delivered
in.  The black plastic bag has dissappeared and the 1/2 flimsy foam
padding underneath has deterioriated a little.  Of all the snaps and
moulding clips, there are only two clips missing.

Don Sugarman

sugarman@berkshire.net
FAX 413-443-7395

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:36:39 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Differential ID & swap

 Erik,

The rear axle assemblies that directly fit are 71-72 Olds F-85 station
wagons, but '68 Buick Special & Olds F85, '69-70 will interchange w/brake
cylinder differences.




>Greg,
>
> I blew out the rear end in my Vista Cruiser and checked with a friend who
>had a Hollander Interchange manual which ones would fit.  Unfortunately, I
>no longer have the list, but I do remember that there was something
>different about the VC's rear end.  There was only a limited number of
>rears that would fit.  I got a 12 bolt out of a 68 Cutlass Coupe.  If
>someone on the list has access to an interchange manual, could they please
>post which rears will fit on a 72 VC.
>
> If I were you Greg, I would do my homework before going through the
>trouble of changing rear ends.  It is a real dirty and inconvenient job.
>Not real difficult though.
>
> Question to the group:  Someone posted that H/O's all had boxed lower
>control arms in order to handle the forces caused by the rear sway bar.  My
>VC has a rear sway bar, but no boxed control arms.  Should I have them
>boxed, or would that be a waste on a car that will never see a track?

All GM cars w/sway bars I have ever seen stock had boxed control arms.  They
keep the contro arms fromn collapsing from the stress of truning corners &
attaching the sway bar.

>
>Erik Nowacki
>72 Vista Cruiser

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

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Date: 2 Aug 1997 10:55:56 PST
From: mjones@dragon.gleep.com
Subject: Gas Cap?

I notice on other cars that when you remove the gas cap you hear a
"whoosh" sound, like the pressure either relieving itself in the gas
tank or a vacuum being sucked in.  On my '78 88, I don't hear this.  The
cap was replaced with a Stant locking cap who knows when.

Mike Jones
'78 88 2dr.

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:59:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: overheating at hwy speeds

One happy result of working on cars for the summer: learned a bit more about
symptoms & causes of overheating. 2-3 times in the past month or two, there's
been a car/ truck come in with complaint of cooling system works fine EXCEPT at
hiway speeds.

Hmmmmm.... plenty of airflow *opportunity* yet overheats?

Possible cause 1: cap fails to maintain pressure, thus coolant boils at a lower
temp.

Possible cause 2: [all I worked on were this] Radiator not dumping the heat.
Typically, the radiator and/or AC condenser are 50% or so clogged with lint &
road grunge: tiny stones, bug carcasses, etc.

Solution: Ideally, new radiator. Practically- apply gnarly cleaning chemical
liberally [Mean Gree is good], wash thoroughly, from back side and front side.
Replace radiator cap on principle; it's cheap. Works wonders!
- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 15:03:39 -0400
From: dgerow@stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow)
Subject: '69 Posi rear end

I have a '69 442 that came with the standard 400 cid, 400 tranny (3 spd
auto) and a posi rear end.  The man I bought it from (orig owner.) took
out the engine and the rear end and put in a '69 350 and a "one wheel
wonder."  He gave me the 400 when I bought the car off him, but he is
reluctant to give me the damn rear.  So, in the event that I need to buy
a new one, what exactly should I be looking for and how much are we
talking for a price.  I don't want to go too insane on gearing or
anything, but I would like a nice setup.  Thank you in advance for any
help that can be provided.

- --
Daniel R. Gerow
WSHL-FM 91.3 Stonehill College Radio
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http://www2.stonehill.edu/wshl
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Homepage: http://www2.stonehill.edu/~dgerow

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:59:42 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Brake Part Question

 Nick,

All 1967 up Oldsmobiles had dual master cylinders.  I believe that the 1971
up big cars all had disc brakes in the front.  I suppose that any 1967-1970
master cylinder should fit your description.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama





>I'm sorry to say that I'm going to have to skip the disk brake swap on my
>Olds, I'll be going to school soon and don't want to to leave the car up
>here in Dallas on stands. I am going to go ahead and put in all new brake
>hardware and wheel cylinders, so that should help. I'm also going to put in
>a dual chamber master cylinder.
>
>I'd like to find out which full size Olds had front and rear drums but had
>a dual chamber master cylinder. I need one of these for a car with power
>brakes. I haven't found a parts store around here that really knows
>anything, so that is why I ask you all.

>Thanks!
>Nick
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 15:22:40 -0700
From: JFOWLER@capecod.net
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

Al Barlow wrote:
> 
> At 11:46 AM 8/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >. If anyone would like to know the
> >> average and highs/lows for their particular Olds, please let me know and
> >> I will publish here...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Mike
> >I would like to know what it says about out 66 Delta 88 Convertable. I have
> >never seen another one for sale so I dont have much to compare to. We
> >bought it for $3,500 in November and I haven't had to do much to it since.
> >It is a # 3 car ( in my opinon anyway).
> >Thanks in advance
> >Waler
> >
> >Mike,
> Can you give me the prices on the following cars?
> 1971 olds 442 convertible, 455 automatic, numbers matching, #2 condition.
> 1972 olds cutlass supreme convertible, factory air, 350 2bbl automatic,
> rough shape but mostly there with solid frame. Matching numbers.
> 
> Thanks
> AlHow about the price on a 69 442 conv.  It's in # 3 condition, with 
limited options.  Thanks!

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 15:31:51 -0700
From: JFOWLER@capecod.net
Subject: Battery ?

I went to fill up the tank on my 69 442 the other day, and within a half mile the 
battery completly drained. It did run rough to the station. I tried to jump it, but it 
didn't help.  I finally had to put in a different battery, and it started right up.  I 
have never had any problems with the battery and I believe it's fairly new.  The only 
thing I did different was the addition of sparkplug wire looms.  Could it have grounded 
it's self to the block through the wires?  I did notice the negative terminal was hot.  
ANY IDEAS?   

Thanks
Jim Fowler
69 442 conv.

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 15:38:59 -0700
From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Subject: Re: Battery ?

JFOWLER@capecod.net wrote:
> 
> I went to fill up the tank on my 69 442 the other day, and within a 
> half mile the battery completly drained. It did run rough to the 
> station. I tried to jump it, but it didn't help.  I finally had to put 
> in a different battery, and it started right up.  I have never had any 
> problems with the battery and I believe it's fairly new.  The only 
> thing I did different was the addition of sparkplug wire looms.  Could 
> it have grounded it's self to the block through the wires?  I did 
> notice the negative terminal was hot.
> ANY IDEAS?

Doubtfull the loom could have caused the battery to go flat.  When 
running, you're getting electrical power from the altenator -- the 
battery SHOULD be getting charged.  More likely you developed an internal 
short in the battery which dragged the alternator voltage down and caused 
the car to run like crap.
 
    66 Toro 
The /\   /\ and Mike     http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/torolist.html


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 15:47:44 -0700
From: JFOWLER@capecod.net
Subject: Re: Battery ?

Mike Frederick wrote:
> 
> JFOWLER@capecod.net wrote:
> >
> > I went to fill up the tank on my 69 442 the other day, and within a
> > half mile the battery completly drained. It did run rough to the
> > station. I tried to jump it, but it didn't help.  I finally had to put
> > in a different battery, and it started right up.  I have never had any
> > problems with the battery and I believe it's fairly new.  The only
> > thing I did different was the addition of sparkplug wire looms.  Could
> > it have grounded it's self to the block through the wires?  I did
> > notice the negative terminal was hot.
> > ANY IDEAS?
> 
> Doubtfull the loom could have caused the battery to go flat.  When
> running, you're getting electrical power from the altenator -- the
> battery SHOULD be getting charged.  More likely you developed an internal
> short in the battery which dragged the alternator voltage down and caused
> the car to run like crap.
> 
>     66 Toro
> The /\   /\ and Mike     http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/torolist.html
> 
> --
> Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
>      Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
>      (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

I put the battery on a charger the other night, and it's holding a charge.  Would the 
short indicate a bad battery?  Would it still hold a charge?

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 15:51:58 -0700
From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Subject: Motor needed

Got a from my friend Ray Dzierzek, the technical guru from GMC Motorhome 
Marketplace.  A guy he knows from Long Island, NY threw a rod in his 455 
Toro powered GMC near Scranton, PA.  He's looking for a replacement 
motor.  First choice would be a rebuilt short block but would also be 
interested in a rebuildable core, a complete running engine, or the 
engine/transaxle assembly.  Anybody in the Northeast got anything for 
sale?  Bob Barry?  Arrangements would be made for pickup.

Ray isn't on the net so please reply through either of the mail lists or 
directly to me.  TIA

    66 Toro 
The /\   /\ and Mike     http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/torolist.html


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:01:29 -0700
From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Subject: Re: Battery ?

JFOWLER@capecod.net wrote:
> 
> I put the battery on a charger the other night, and it's holding a 
> charge.  Would the short indicate a bad battery?  Would it still hold a 
> charge?

It *might*.  Batteries can do some stange things.  Internal shorts are 
often caused by a chuck of scale from the plates falling off and shorting 
a cell.  Could even be intermittant.  No problems with the replacement 
battery in the car?  Throw the old one back in and see what happens -- 
but keep the other battery in the trunk.   ;)

    66 Toro 
The /\   /\ and Mike     http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/torolist.html


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:01:42 -0400
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

At 10:50 PM 8/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I went to the Meadowbrook Invitational Car Auction over here in Rochester 
>Hills, MI tonight. When I was there I picked up the "1997 Edition 
>Collectible Vehicle Auction Results & Collector's Guide". This book is 
>published by Kruse International. If anyone would like to know the 
>average and highs/lows for their particular Olds, please let me know and 
>I will publish here...
>
>Regards,
>Mike


How about for a 1975 Delta 88 convertible?


Dan



************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:49:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Douglas J Harkema" <harkema2@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

How about a 1970 cutlass supreme convertible  #'s match 350 2bbl 77,000 orig
between a 2 and 3 condition

Thanks
Doug H


> > At 10:50 PM 8/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >I went to the Meadowbrook Invitational Car Auction over here in Rochester
> >Hills, MI tonight. When I was there I picked up the "1997 Edition
> >Collectible Vehicle Auction Results & Collector's Guide". This book is
> >published by Kruse International. If anyone would like to know the
> >average and highs/lows for their particular Olds, please let me know and
> >I will publish here...
> >
> >Regards,
> >Mike
>
>
> How about for a 1975 Delta 88 convertible?
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> ************************************************
> Dan Gulino
> gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
> http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
> 1975 Delta 88 Convertible
> ************************************************
>

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:00:09 -0500
From: jrjet@mtco.com (Dot & Tim McChesney)
Subject: Toro engine for 455 build

Well went out and looked the toro engine over and deal for it.  They
started out
wanting 250 for it but got it for 100 and I pull it. Pretty happy with it
so far.  I will end up there next sat. to finish pulling it. heres what I
got, its a 67 toro, odometer reads 006517.0. Block #389244D, has C heads,
Vin #396877m614417. The car looks in good condition , bodys straight and
still on bias ply tires. All the car is still there except the engine its
mine.

 Any body interested in the other parts on the car it is located in
northren, central IL.  Blackstone Auto Salvage, Blackstone IL.
815-672-7616.

I dont have the address to the toro list if some one could pass this one on
to them.

Tim McChesney

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:06:10 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

Mike Hall wrote:
> 
> >yes what's the average for a 1967 cutlass convertible?   thanks
> 
> Only one 1967 car is listed for this, unfortunately.
> 
> A 1967 Cutlass Supreme Convertible, #3 condition, SOLD for $5,500.

If it in fact was #3 condition, they stole it at that price.
- -- 

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:08:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: SRB442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Toro engine for 455 build

Tim,
       You know that you are getting a 425 not a 455 engine. Wouldn't want
you to get it home then find out.   Steve
1967 442
1970 442
1973 442
1985 Delta 88 Royale brougham
OCA 016050

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:10:32 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: Re: Junkyard Visit

Also a '67 Cutlass convert, very
> rough. 

Meaning rust?  I need a frame from a 66-7 convertible (rust-free)
- -- 

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 17:44:20 -0700
From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Subject: Re: Toro engine for 455 build

Dot & Tim McChesney wrote:
> 
> I dont have the address to the toro list if some one could pass this 
> one on to them.

Done.  And it's toro@armchair.mb.ca

    66 Toro 
The /\   /\ and Mike     http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/torolist.html


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 19:44:57 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.

Hey gang,

I want to get a junkyard 350 from an Olds, tear it apart, and really
spice it up when I put it back together. I've decided against using my
73 350 because of it being from the beginning of the "Smog V8's" era.
FAQ says my heads are crappy anyways. I was thinkg about finding a 68-69
350 and building that up. I have read that they have great compression
and are not wussies. Would this be a good idea. I can get one complete
for $280. I was also thinking about getting the W-31 cam for it, 308
dur. But then I read about that whole power breaks deal and became a
little worried. What d'y'all think?
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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:53:18 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: Re: '69 Posi rear end

Daniel R. Gerow wrote:
> 
> I have a '69 442 that came with the standard 400 cid, 400 tranny (3 spd
> auto) and a posi rear end.  The man I bought it from (orig owner.) took
> out the engine and the rear end and put in a '69 350 and a "one wheel
> wonder."  He gave me the 400 when I bought the car off him, but he is
> reluctant to give me the damn rear.  So, in the event that I need to buy
> a new one, what exactly should I be looking for and how much are we
> talking for a price.  I don't want to go too insane on gearing or
> anything, but I would like a nice setup.  Thank you in advance for any
> help that can be provided.
> 
> --
> Daniel R. Gerow
> WSHL-FM 91.3 Stonehill College Radio
> ------------------------------------
> http://www2.stonehill.edu/wshl
> ------------------------------------
> Homepage: http://www2.stonehill.edu/~dgerow


Let me know of your findings.  I have been searching for a new, used,
rebuilt, or aftermarket rear end for about a year now, and can't find
one for a reasonable price.
Thanks
Brad
70 442

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:56:20 -0400
From: Robert Barry <RBarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: BB heads

>Is it possible to put BB heads on a 350?

Yes, but it's a bad idea.

The large combustion chambers lower your compression ratio.

The intake ports will be mismatched with the runners on the intake manifold;
the Performer RPM has enough meat to be port-matched, but that's not worth
it for the street.

A #5-#7 head with big valves will be a better bet; when mildly ported (less
work than making an intake match the BB heads) they will flow enough for a
street 350 (sub-7000rpm), and they're readily available.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:53:52 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Differential ID & swap

Erick - My parts '72 V-C has sway bar & boxed control arms.  


Lisa Madsen

Heavy Metal Forever - '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom , '69 Toronado, '72
Vista Cruiser 

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:53:30 +0000
From: TERRANCE ROHNER <tthiel@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Upholstery Question

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
> 
> If anyone out there is familiar with the upholstery business, I have a
> question.
> 
> We've all seen the upholstery kits for the '68-72 A-body cars. Are there
> similar kits (or, I suppose, GM pieces) for later-model cars like my '78
> Delta? How would you go about re-upholstering something like this so that
> it looks factory?
> 
> What about the headliners? How would you go about replacing or repairing
> that "panty cloth" material they used?
> 
> Just curious more than anything.
> 
> Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


I just happen to own my own upholstery business. Well any good
upholstery shop should be able to reaupholster your seats the exact same
way as they are now. I have a 82 cutlass broughm and it has them plushy
seats, well them are a bitch to do and would probably cost more to have
done. At least I would charge more anyway. Well any way it would look
exactly the same if you have it done by someone who knows what there
doing. And about the head liner meterial. I've been trying to find that
meterial for along time and have had no such luck so if you happen to
run into a place that has it let me know thanks.

                          Terrance

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:21:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlassHoteI@aol.com
Subject: Blower won't Blow

Had a great two weeks in Ludington Michigan with my 1970 Cutlass convertible,
even if I did break a pushrod and bend a few others.  At least I now know for
sure that the engine was never rebuilt, and 27 year old pushrods and bridges
only go so far...

I have been having a problem with the high speed on my blower motor.  It pops
the fusible link like crazy.  The blower resistor is fine.  The car is
equipped with A/C, is there anything in that circuit that could be causing
such a high draw?

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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 21:40:49 -0400
From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Subject: J heads

I've been given a pair of rebuilt J heads with 2.07 intake valves and
1.68 exhaust.  I've been told that the J heads are not as desirable as
other heads.  They do have larger valves than some.  Can someone explain
why the J heads perform less effectively if such is the case.  My
acquaintenances can't give me a reason to back up their comments.  Wayne

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:15:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: FUSICK CLOSED?

  NO Fusick has not closed only thing maybe you wern't using the new area
code 860.
  Mike was just at my place last week and we spent most of the day together
and he bought all my 30's and 40's Oldsmobile inventory. So I'm sure it was
only a clitch that you didn't get ahold of them.

Everett Horton  OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire.


E & G Automotive
PO Box 16095
Rumford, R.I. 02916
1-401-435-7139

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:15:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Starfire running again

  October 94 I took my 49,000 mile  1961 Stafire apart to detail the engine
compartment  and the undercarriage and drivetrain.
  Then Feb 1995 I opened my own business and my Stafire got put on the
backburner. 
   Well here it is Aug 97 and Lansing breathing down my back, I started and
drove around the block after 2 1/2 years, what a great feeling. 
   Just a few little adjustment and a few little things and it will be in its
1st show Sat Aug 9th.
   Never give up you can do it.

Everett   OCA# 1961   1961 Stafire

E & G Automotive
PO Box 16095
Rumford, R.I. 02916

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:52:19 -0400
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: FUSICK CLOSED?

At 10:15 PM 8/2/97 -0400, you wrote:

>  NO Fusick has not closed only thing maybe you wern't using the new area
>code 860.
>  Mike was just at my place last week and we spent most of the day together
>and he bought all my 30's and 40's Oldsmobile inventory. So I'm sure it was
>only a clitch that you didn't get ahold of them.
>
>Everett Horton  OCA# 1961   1961 Starfire.


Everett!  The word is "glitch."  I don't think the word "clitch" can be
used in polite company!



Dan



************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
************************************************

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:26:38 -0400
From: "MROTHE" <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: J heads

J heads are OK heads for the street, as is.  I'm just wondering if someone
put the bigger valves in your heads, cause my set of J's I got layin'
around have 2" valves.  Hmmm......  The point is not that they are bad
heads, but that they were made for smog action.   And they already have
hardened exhaust seats for unleaded.  BUT, the intake ports seem a tad
smaller, and I'm not positive here, but I think the combustion chamber is a
slight bit deeper (read larger).  At least when I looked at my set of J's
and compared them with C's.  But that is just eyeballing, and may not be
true.  Never cc'd them.  The J's were not really designed for high end flow
as much as C heads, for example, straight out of the box.  Of course with a
little massaging of the ports, the J heads will and can flow quite nicely.

 
> I've been given a pair of rebuilt J heads with 2.07 intake valves and
> 1.68 exhaust.  I've been told that the J heads are not as desirable as
> other heads.  They do have larger valves than some.  Can someone explain
> why the J heads perform less effectively if such is the case.  My
> acquaintenances can't give me a reason to back up their comments.  Wayne

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 2 Aug 97 23:48:40 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Auction stuff...

Sorry, the listings are very general with only the condition, engine, 
reserve and place of auction (sale) shown. The averages column are all 
cars regardless of condition... also the condition is in parenthesis i.e. 
(#3). The listings are specific for the car however, as in Al's case, he 
asked for the 72' Cutlass Supreme and there is only one listing for that 
car, there are seven listings for Cutlass convertibles which I did not 
include... FYI, Mike

For Chris Sparks: 1968 442 Sports Coupe
High: $14,100 (#2)
Low: $4,740 (#2)
Average: $8,730

For Steven: 70 rallye 350 h-coupe
Sorry, none shown...

For Steven: 70 w31 4spd. h-coupe
High: $15,250 (#3)
Low: $14,250 (#3)
Average: $14,750

For Steven: 71 442 h-coupe
High: $11,000 (#2)
Low: $11,000 (#2)
Average: $11,000

For Waler: 66 Delta 88 Convertable
Sorry, none shown...

For Al: 1971 Olds 442 convertible
High: $6,250 (#2)
Low: $6,250 (#2)
Average: $6,250

For Al: 1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme Convertible
High: $7,800 (#2)
Low: $7,800 (#2)
Average: $7,800

For Dan Gulino: 1975 Delta 88 convertible
High: $13,500 (#3)
Low: $3,000 (#3)
Average: $7,166.67

For Doug Harkema:1970 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
High: $14,500 (#3)
Low: $6,400 (#3)
Average: $9,550

For JFOWLER: 1969 442 Convertible
Sorry, none shown...

Enjoy,
Mike


Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Oldsmobile Stable:
     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...    
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:59:27 -0400
From: "John S.Shelp" <shelpj@noln.com>
Subject: 1980 holiday 88

I have a 1977 Delta 88. I would like to add the 1980 holiday 88 wheels to
my car. is any selling the wheel I need 4, and will they fit my car?????

John Shelp

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:09:09 -0300
From: joseph b duncan <jbduncan@iquest.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

Mike,  What are the price ranges for a 1955 Olds Super 88, 4dr HT, AT.
Orginal condition, 43,000 miles.  Not quite a #2 but a very very good #3.
Looks good, runs good.  I have one that I'm thinking about selling.  Thanks
for your help.

Joe


At 10:50 PM 8/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I went to the Meadowbrook Invitational Car Auction over here in Rochester 
>Hills, MI tonight. When I was there I picked up the "1997 Edition 
>Collectible Vehicle Auction Results & Collector's Guide". This book is 
>published by Kruse International. If anyone would like to know the 
>average and highs/lows for their particular Olds, please let me know and 
>I will publish here...
>
>Regards,
>Mike
>
>
>Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
>Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
>The Oldsmobile Stable:
>     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...    
>     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
>     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:11:57 -0700
From: "Suzanne Rousseau" <ewok@clarkston.com>
Subject: Re: "F" Stamping

- ----------
> From: Robert Schinkel <docbob@caninet.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: "F" Stamping
> Date: Saturday, August 02, 1997 8:40 AM
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Have a question about the F code on the rear of the 455 engines
> In FAQ its mentioned that F5 and F6 have higher nickel content 
> In a mondello article I read he mentioned that the lower F0 F00 F1 and so
> on up
> to F4 were the better block to use for performance

I believe that the FAQ also says that the F-F4 blocks can be bored up to
.110-.125 over with a sonic check, probably making them more desireable for
performance - because you know the saying "there's no replacement for
displacement"

So the F5 and F6 may be stronger, but they can't take as much overbore,
therefore limiting their potential displacement.

If I remember right, my '70 Toro engine is an F4, but that's just what I
think...   I'll never know until I get the chance to build it how I want it
built.

My $.02

Paul Rousseau
*1967 442

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 00:50:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: DJV442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Battery ?

i would check the ground cable going to the motor for corrosion/broken
conductors...would cause a hot negative cable...and may intermittently not
start/seem dead...hope this helps...djv442@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:25:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cnvrtbl442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

In a message dated 97-08-02 08:14:32 EDT, you write:

<< As I peruse the 1968 section, what's this?
 
 A 1968 Olds 98 Two Door Convertible, #3 condition, SOLD for $45,000.
 
 That's right, SOLD for 45 grand! The buyer had put the reserve at $8,300, 
 guess the new buyer made his day...and #3 condition to boot, strange... 
 It was a 455 car as well...
  >>
THAT HAS TO BE A MISPRINT!!!  15,000 maybe?  No one in his right mind wou....

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 03:17:18 -0400
From: "Patton" <patton@ComCAT.COM>
Subject: Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.

If you get lucky and find a 66' 67' 330 motor you will have the best
available.
Most, if not all(little fuzzy here, help me out guys) had steel cranks. I
have several
if you want to go in that direction. Externally same. Heads will need
hardened valve
seats and stainless steel valves. Good luck.     about 9.5-1 compression.
Edelbrock
makes a nice cam and manifold combo. forget the W31 cam

- ----------
> From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
> To: Oldsmobile List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.
> Date: Saturday, August 02, 1997 8:44 PM
> 
> Hey gang,
> 
> I want to get a junkyard 350 from an Olds, tear it apart, and really
> spice it up when I put it back together. I've decided against using my
> 73 350 because of it being from the beginning of the "Smog V8's" era.
> FAQ says my heads are crappy anyways. I was thinkg about finding a 68-69
> 350 and building that up. I have read that they have great compression
> and are not wussies. Would this be a good idea. I can get one complete
> for $280. I was also thinking about getting the W-31 cam for it, 308
> dur. But then I read about that whole power breaks deal and became a
> little worried. What d'y'all think?
> -- 
> **********************************
> Matt Cremean
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> CreamerSoftİ Software
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5988/creamersoft.html
> +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
> 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
> **********************************

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 05:09:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: STemple909@aol.com
Subject: Re: Blower won't Blow

Had the same problem. Check the relay. It is above the  brake booster on the
firewall.


Shawn L. Temple
72 Cutlass S
Birmingham, AL

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 97 07:17:51 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

><< As I peruse the 1968 section, what's this?
> 
> A 1968 Olds 98 Two Door Convertible, #3 condition, SOLD for $45,000.
> 
> That's right, SOLD for 45 grand! The buyer had put the reserve at $8,300, 
> guess the new buyer made his day...and #3 condition to boot, strange... 
> It was a 455 car as well...
>  >>
>THAT HAS TO BE A MISPRINT!!!  15,000 maybe?  No one in his right mind wou....


It "may" be a misprint, but judging some of the prices in here, makes one 
wonder... There is also a lot of detailed information as to why a vehicle 
sold high, sold low or somewhere in between. If you consider that the car 
may have had 100 total miles on it or was potentially owned by a famous 
person or involved in a famous event, it is much easier to understand the 
price paid.

Here is a couple of the more pricey Old's that sold this year:

1960 Super 88 Convertible (#2), $77,750 (Guess we need to keep our eyes 
open for these...)
1953 Fiesta Convertible (#2), $52,000 (Eyes open for these too.)
1953 Fiesta Convertible (#2), $47,500
1968 Cutlass Convertible (#3) $34,500  (WOW!)
1970 442 Convertible (#3) $28,000  (For a #3 ???)




Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Oldsmobile Stable:
     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...    
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 97 07:17:49 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

For Joe Duncan: 1955 Olds Super 88
High: $31,000 (#1)
Low: $9,750 (#2)
Average: $20,375


Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Oldsmobile Stable:
     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...    
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:23:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mudflap46@aol.com
Subject: oldsmobile parts

Dear sirs, I own a 1977 Olds 98 and its not going to take a whole lot of work
to make it new again. I do need some parts and was wondering if you could
steer me in the right direction. Any help will be appreciated. 
Thank you
Ed Tompkins

E-Mail: Mudflap 46 @aol.com

Home address
6549 Reynolds Rd.
Mentor, Ohio
44060

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 97 07:27:41 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Auction prices...

>There is also a lot of detailed information as to why a vehicle 
>sold high, sold low or somewhere in between.

I meant to say, "...a lot of detailed information MISSING as to why....

Sorry, haven't had my Coffee yet...
Mike


Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Oldsmobile Stable:
     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...    
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 06:28:30 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@nfs.aisf.com>
Subject: Re: Battery

Hi all,

I need to get a battery for my 68 4-4-2 (been sitting so long since the
accident that I need a new battery).  I normally go to Sears
to get one and when they punched up the information on my year/make
it didn't show the 400 engine, just 350/455.  What kind of battery with
how high a cold cranking amperage should I get?  The one I have
currently in the car is rated at 1000 amps.  In going over Sears'
batteries the highest is 750 amps.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 09:08:26 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.

Patton wrote:
> 
> If you get lucky and find a 66' 67' 330 motor you will have the best
> available.
> Most, if not all(little fuzzy here, help me out guys) had steel cranks. I
> have several
> if you want to go in that direction. Externally same. Heads will need
> hardened valve
> seats and stainless steel valves. Good luck.     about 9.5-1 compression.
> Edelbrock
> makes a nice cam and manifold combo. forget the W31 cam

Yup, they had forged steel crank and rods in 66' . Some had 9:1
compression ratio (310 HP) and others had 10.25:1 (320 HP) You can by
either piston from Kanter and the are pretty reasonable.  I am keeping
mine stock however it seem to me from the numbers (on paper at least)
you can build them to run pretty nicely.
- -- 

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
- -----------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 10:43:57 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Upholstery Question

At 01:56 PM 8/2/97 -0300, you wrote:
>
>If anyone out there is familiar with the upholstery business, I have a 
>question.
>
>We've all seen the upholstery kits for the '68-72 A-body cars. Are there 
>similar kits (or, I suppose, GM pieces) for later-model cars like my '78 
>Delta? How would you go about re-upholstering something like this so that 
>it looks factory? 
>
>What about the headliners? How would you go about replacing or repairing 
>that "panty cloth" material they used?
>
>Just curious more than anything. 
>
>Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
>
Greg

        Your on your own when it comes to those types of cars as far as seat
kits. Nobody makes them. A good upolstery shop should be able to get very
close matching it for inserts or whatever you need. Headliners are about the
same. Everyone had problems with those "panty cloth" headliners coming
unglued from the backing board. Donw here it runs about $100.00 to replace
them. That's someone doing it for you. So it's not impossible.

Jim Chermack

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 10:43:56 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: Brake Part Question

At 11:02 AM 8/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm sorry to say that I'm going to have to skip the disk brake swap on my
>Olds, I'll be going to school soon and don't want to to leave the car up
>here in Dallas on stands. I am going to go ahead and put in all new brake
>hardware and wheel cylinders, so that should help. I'm also going to put in
>a dual chamber master cylinder.
>
>I'd like to find out which full size Olds had front and rear drums but had
>a dual chamber master cylinder. I need one of these for a car with power
>brakes. I haven't found a parts store around here that really knows
>anything, so that is why I ask you all.
>
>Once I get this master cylinder, I am wondering how the brake lines are
>routed. I suppose I need to go take a good look at that brake line junction
>block thingy and see what goes where.
>
>If anyone has a really nice master cylinder like the one I described, let
>me know. If not, I'd like to know what I should ask for at the parts store.
>Thanks!
>Nick
>
>
Nick

        All Full Sized Olds and every other one since 67 has had a dual
master cylinder. If you are having problems getting one we can get all
styles and types of master cylinders out here.

Jim Chermack

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Date: 03 Aug 97 11:30:27 EDT
From: "deirdre. reilly" <102724.635@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Aurora powered Fiero 

 Joe Padavano wrote:

<the more the Fiero 
     actually cried out for an Aurora setup...>

Where did I see this done??  Maybe Car Craft, and I think it was a Caddy
Northstar engine, which the Aurora is a downsized version of (right?). Pretty
cool setup if you ask me, I think the guy put the engine up front too! Just
swapped the whole engine and transaxle in the front.  I also saw someone use an
Aurora engine in the new Pontiac Sunfire.

Just goes to show you that with a little money and some craftmanship anything
can be done.

Just to add my bit to the fantasy also, I always thought that it would be cool
to put an Aurora engine in an early 80's 2dr Omega or even a late 70's Starfire.
Imagine the looks you would get when you smoke some Camaro or 5.0 with that!!
(sigh) Maybe someday.

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme
'83 Cutlass Ciera (coming soon)
     
     

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:41:49 -0500
From: "jones" <jones@morgan.net>
Subject: Re: Auction stuff...

>
> For Waler: 66 Delta 88 Convertable
> Sorry, none shown...
I should have known, I never have seen another one of these for sale or
otherwise.  I wonder if I am the only one that likes these cars or if they
are just not many left?
Walter

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 08:44:42 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@nfs.aisf.com>
Subject: Re: Aurora powered Fiero

Bill,

> Just goes to show you that with a little money and some craftmanship anything
> can be done.
> 
> Just to add my bit to the fantasy also, I always thought that it would be cool
> to put an Aurora engine in an early 80's 2dr Omega or even a late 70's Starfire.
> Imagine the looks you would get when you smoke some Camaro or 5.0 with that!!
> (sigh) Maybe someday.

How much would it cost to do this transplant?  It seems like quite a
chunk of 
change.

Fantasy 2:  What if a person could put a modified Northstar into a "A"
body car?
Can this be done?

Oh well....

Chris Sparks

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 08:50:05 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@nfs.aisf.com>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Battery]

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Hi all,

I need to get a battery for my 68 4-4-2 (been sitting so long since the
accident that I need a new battery).  I normally go to Sears
to get one and when they punched up the information on my year/make
it didn't show the 400 engine, just 350/455.  What kind of battery with
how high a cold cranking amperage should I get?  The one I have
currently in the car is rated at 1000 amps.  In going over Sears'
batteries the highest is 750 amps.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.


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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:57:04 -0000
From: "dayc" <dayc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Remove please

Please remove me from this list
dayc@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 10:59:51 -0500
From: John Oder <jaoder@navix.net>
Subject: W Machine question

Hi All,

I have a 70 SX W-32 that was built in Lansing, Mich.  The person I
bought the car from told me that all W machines were built there, but I
have seen that some of the other list members with W machines were not.
Could someone please give me some information on this.  Thanks,

John Oder
70 Cutlass SX W-32
70 Cuda Conv. 383
73 Dodge Challenger Rallye

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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 09:09:51 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@nfs.aisf.com>
Subject: Re: W Machine question

Hi John,

> 70 Cuda Conv. 383

A fellow coworker's husband is dying (literally :-) to have this car.
Any chance of selling it?

Chris Sparks

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 12:35:33 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.

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> From: dhamlett@mitec.net
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Good 350s...help please, advice needed.
> Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 10:08 AM
> 
> 
> Yup, they had forged steel crank and rods in 66' . 

Hey Dan 

I have a 66 330 and I thought the crank was cast 
I'm not very good at determining the differance would you have the stamping
codes for the crank
I would appreciate it 

Bob
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> -----------------------------------------
>       Dan Hamlett
>       1966 Cutlass Convertible
>       1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
>       mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
>       http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
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