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oldsmobile-digest       Thursday, July 31 1997       Volume 01 : Number 778



73 0lds rocket
Re: 68-72 car parts
parts wanted
Re: What do I do?
Re: weather stripping recomendations
Re: 73 0lds rocket
Re: 73 0lds rocket
Re: Hurst Dual Gate shifter
Re: weather stripping recomendations
Re: ADMIN: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Great Sex!!!!!
Re: My current happenings.... (was: Union, IL car show & list meet)
Re: 70 442 convertible 4-speed
Re: Oldsmobile Day
Re: rear qtr panel for 65 Jetstar I
Re: NE Ohio OCA and Jason's job ;-)
Latest JWO
Re: Latest JWO
Re: weather stripping recomendations
Re: What do I do?
Re: weather stripping recomendations
Re: weather stripping recomendations
Re: rear qtr panel for 65 Jetstar I  and lansing travel advice
58 Olds FS - Photos
re: H/O - Hearse
Re: Part needed
Re: 58 Olds FS - Photos
Re: weather stripping recomendations
Add me to the Lansing List
BUILDING 455
Re: 58 Olds FS - Photos
Door locks
Re: BUILDING 455
Re: rear qtr panel for 65 Jetstar I
Re: Door locks
Re: Drag radials
UNBOUNCE: Lansing List
Re: Latest JWO
Re: 1970 w-30 4-speed
OCA Web Page Updated (New Software)
Re: Drag radials
Re: Oldsmobile Day
Re: 70 442 convertible 4-speed
Re: w-30 ID
Re: Rear wing
LANSING LIST
Re: H/O -- Hearse
RE: What a Day for a Rocket Ride
68 442 Taillamp Bezels
Re: dream car
RS liquidation?
69 hood scoop decals
Jokes?

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:06:56 -0700
From: Wayne & Linda McKenna <wamlmbmckenna@sprintmail.com>
Subject: 73 0lds rocket

I need some type of digram of the vacum hoses I don't know where they
go.
please help so that I can get my olds on the road.write at
fkjw67e@prodigy.com
Thanks Ryan

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:21:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: chris w burge <cburge@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu>
Subject: Re: 68-72 car parts




  I am looking for a Dual gate shifter for my 72 s convt.  please drop
me a line.

thanks
cburge

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:26:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: chris w burge <cburge@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu>
Subject: parts wanted



  I am looking for a dual gate shifter, i already hsve the console.
If you got one please send me some information.


thanks a bunch

chris b

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:39:31 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@nfs.aisf.com>
Subject: Re: What do I do?

Hi all,

Well yesterday I tried to put the new window lacing on my 68 442 SC that
I had on my 68 442 HT.  I really loved the stainless/aluminum (whatever)
trim from the HT better than the rubber/metal inserted version on the
SC.  One problem.  It didn't fit.  I guess the post got in the way.  I
didn't want to cut or jimmy the piece on.  I still have to have the
"B" pillar post molding to fit.  Has anyone done this type of retro-
fitting?

Also Is the "A" pillar post moldings from a HT compatible with a SC?
The screw holes didn't seem to line up.

Let me know.

Chris Sparks

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:29:59 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: weather stripping recomendations

At 09:11 AM 7/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I need to replace the door and trunk weather stripping on my 70 442.
>I'm looking for some recomendations from those who have done this
>before.  I'm leaning towards soff seal.  Any tips or tricks?
>
>mike
>

Mike

        Go with Metro Moulded. You will like this stuff better. Soft Seal
makes their weatherstrips too hard. Plus the price is the same or better.

Jim Chermack

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:26:27 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: 73 0lds rocket

 Wayne & Linda,

I have a 1973 shop manual & can scan parts of it.  What model, engine, &
transmission combination do you have?  Do you have AC?

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

- -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne & Linda McKenna <wamlmbmckenna@sprintmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@ccn.cs.dal.ca <oldsmobile@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 7:17 PM
Subject: 73 0lds rocket



>I need some type of digram of the vacum hoses I don't know where they
>go.
>please help so that I can get my olds on the road.write at
>fkjw67e@prodigy.com
>Thanks Ryan
>

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:26:27 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: 73 0lds rocket

 Wayne & Linda,

I have a 1973 shop manual & can scan parts of it.  What model, engine, &
transmission combination do you have?  Do you have AC?

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

- -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne & Linda McKenna <wamlmbmckenna@sprintmail.com>
To: oldsmobile@ccn.cs.dal.ca <oldsmobile@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 7:17 PM
Subject: 73 0lds rocket



>I need some type of digram of the vacum hoses I don't know where they
>go.
>please help so that I can get my olds on the road.write at
>fkjw67e@prodigy.com
>Thanks Ryan
>

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:30:37 -0400
From: Mike Rothe <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Hurst Dual Gate shifter

mike
> do know you of any one who might have top plates or access to,say factory
> rep.  maybe they could be of help. any one with info. please reply.
>              steven.   w30442cs@aol.com

Steve, sorry to say, but no.  I have no idea who would have the top
plates.  This would be an Olds item anyway.  Sorry.

Mike Rothe

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:47:29 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@nfs.aisf.com>
Subject: Re: weather stripping recomendations

Jim & Joanne Chermack wrote:
>
> At 09:11 AM 7/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >I need to replace the door and trunk weather stripping on my 70 442.
> >I'm looking for some recomendations from those who have done this
> >before.  I'm leaning towards soff seal.  Any tips or tricks?
> >
> >       mike
> >
>
> Mike
>
>         Go with Metro Moulded. You will like this stuff better. Soft Seal
> makes their weatherstrips too hard. Plus the price is the same or better.

Go with Brothers (which uses Metro) and get a life time warranty.


Chris Sparks

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:49:22 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Great Sex!!!!!

At 03:16 PM 7/29/97 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-07-29 05:06:41 EDT, you write:
>
><< Subj:Re: ADMIN: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Great Sex!!!!!
> Date:97-07-29 05:06:41 EDT
> From:chermac@exis.net (Jim & Joanne Chermack)
> Sender:oldsmobile-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> Reply-to:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> To:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>
> At 11:19 PM 7/28/97 -0300, you wrote:
> >
> >Don't waste bandwidth complaining about this one, gang... It's been dealt
> >with.
> >
> >Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia,
>Canada
> >
> >
> Greg
>
>         Thanks, we don't need it. Three weeks till Lansing.
>
> Jim Chermack
>  >>
>
>Hey Jim Dont Need What: The Bandwidth or the Great Sex???  (lol)
>

Either

Jim

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:54:49 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: My current happenings.... (was: Union, IL car show & list meet)

 Congratulations ot both of you.  Owning your own home is just a little
short of a lifetime of Oldsmobile restoration as far as effort is concerned.
Don't expect it to get much better either.  The only thing worse is not
owning your own home.

Let's get the home details over & get those Oldsmobiles rolling.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama




>On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 CRuper1@aol.com wrote:
>> Needless to say, I'm busy for a bit, and all this crap happened to come
about
>> in the last 3 weeks, or so, House, car, etc., so about the time you guys
are
>> partying with out me in Lansing :(, I'll be at home getting some (much
>> needed) rest, I hope....
>
>Congrats on the house! Especially the garage. I can relate... I just
>bought my first house a couple of weeks ago and everything just seems to
>rain down on your head all at once. Right now (as I type) I'm on hold
>with the power utility trying to get everything arranged... :(  I've
>already fought with the insurance company, the heating company, the
>moving company, you name it... it's a full-time job. there is a business
>opportunity here for some enterprising person to handle all this stuff
>for you and save all the headaches. I'll be moving the week after Lansing.
>
>It has only a small garage, unlike Chris' palatial setup, but assuming
>there is any momey left at all next spring and I'm not in the institute
>for the permanently deranged, that will get expanded... at least I have a
>work/utility room, so I don't have to restore parts in the apartment's
>kitchen any more... sure hope I can get my damage deposit back... ;-)
>
>Greg Beaulieu
>

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:42:14 -0500
From: "Tracey Cleeton" <tcleeton@mcmsys.com>
Subject: Re: 70 442 convertible 4-speed

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Subject: RE: 70 442 convertible 4-speed

Not too long ago someone on the list was actually wanting to sell his 70
442 conv. It was the one used for the Danbury Mint collection. They used
his car to reproduce the model cars from. I still think he is selling
it. Look in the 442.com page again. This car was read with a black top.
He even gave his URL to see pictures of it. If I come across it Ill send
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:34:04 -0400
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Day

>I didn't know that Olds day even existed, but I'll try to make
>it. by the way, this question is for anyone who can help. There was talk
>of a drag strip that was going to be put in Rhode Island, and then all of
>a sudden, I never heard anything more about it. Does anyone know the
>progress of this track, or if it will even exist? Thanks.

I'd love to make a trip up there; might even have the SX in operation by then!

As for the RI strip, it's going through the town council approvals down in
Richmond (lower part of the state, near CT on I-95), but is facing the usual
traffic/noise opposition; every once in a while, something will appear in
the Providence Journal-Bulletin, but it's not a hot news item, so I don't
know how it's faring at the moment.

There was, and still is, talk of locating one in an industrial section of
Providence itself, but there is an ancient law on the books making it
illegal to operate a "race track" facility in the city; the developers are
trying to get around this, but that's a long shot.

Needless to say, I'd love to have one in my state, rather than travelling
2-3 hours north of here. There's an oval track in Seekonk (just over the MA
border), and some oval tracks in CT nearby, but you can't run a street/strip
machine in that kind of competition... :(
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:34:09 -0400
From: Robert Barry <rbarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Subject: Re: rear qtr panel for 65 Jetstar I

>Does anyone know of a good source for a drivers side rear qtr panel for
>a 65 Olds Jetstar I that is reasonably priced  $650/pr at Fusick's is a
>little high for a 17 yr old kid's budget.

Is that $650/pair for _new_ quarter panels, or good used? Either way,
quarter panels of any sort, aside from Cutlass/442 repo panels, are going to
cost you some money. You may find them for less than $650/pair, but most
likely you'll find them for more, if you find them at all! Of course, if
these are NOS panels, then Fusick's may be undercharging you by a couple
thousand dollars... ;)
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:42:50 -0400
From: Jason Labay <z28cfi@gwis.com>
Subject: Re: NE Ohio OCA and Jason's job ;-)

At 12:36 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-07-29 21:19:15 EDT, you write:
>
><< ____________________________________________
> Jason Labay - Quality Engineer - TRW Automotive Group
> z28cfi@gwis.com  Akron, OH
> 95 DCM Impala SS.....daily driver..1/4 times  to  come
> 80 Olds 442 W-30.......show car...2nd place '97 Olds Nats.
> 75 Hurst/Olds W-25...restoration project
>  >>
>
>Weren't you one of the guys "hunting" for a job earlier this year?  (Thought
>you, and possibly one, or two other guys just got out of school, and were
>looking).  Anyways, this is the first time I've noticed the title on the
>bottom (Q.E., TRW Auto...), so what do you do there?  Anything interesting
>(car type of work)?

Yeah I was hunting for a job and still am in ways. I got this position
through "who I know" up at the TRW Valve Plant in Cleveland, OH. I am a
quality engineer in charge of the forgeing and heat treating of GM intake
and exhaust valves. Just got done inspecting a batch of Quad 4 (now known
as the Twin Cam) valves the other day. It is real neat, I get to work with
a lot of hi-tech toys, blueprints, dyno's, etc. This job isn't what I want
to do long term, since afterall I graduated with my masters in Sports
Management ;-) But it pays gets me some good experience. Notice that since
landing the job I dumped the Z/28 ;-) I had to step up and got an Impala
SS. Too bad Olds didn't put the LT1 into their B-body version of this
car....This car moves well for being a whale. Last time out I recorded a
14.87@91.13 bone stock.
____________________________________________
Jason Labay - Quality Engineer - TRW Automotive Group
z28cfi@gwis.com  Akron, OH
95 DCM Impala SS.....daily driver..1/4 times  to  come
80 Olds 442 W-30.......show car...2nd place '97 Olds Nats.
75 Hurst/Olds W-25...restoration project

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:58:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Latest JWO

Got the August issue yesterday... noted that there was a nice write-up on
the April Olds Club of Florida show, complete with pictures of longtime
list members Bob Handren (who chaired the show) and Peg O'Connor. BTW,
Peg won an award of dubious distinction... ;-)  Also noted a letter from
former list member and occasional contributor Dennis Systma re.
automotive A/C ripoffs. Plus Ralph Braun commented on the Toro list in
his column and mentioned Sparky Kalkhoff's efforts in setting it up. Was
also interested to see some of list member Everett Horton's NOS parts for
sale; Everett, is that some of the Hall's inventory you acquired?

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:01:34 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>
Subject: Re: Latest JWO

>Got the August issue yesterday... noted that there was a nice write-up on
>the April Olds Club of Florida show, complete with pictures of longtime
>list members Bob Handren (who chaired the show) and Peg O'Connor. BTW,
>Peg won an award of dubious distinction... ;-)

...and that would be...?

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@dlogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:05:59 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: weather stripping recomendations

At 12:47 PM 7/30/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Jim & Joanne Chermack wrote:
>>
>> At 09:11 AM 7/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> >I need to replace the door and trunk weather stripping on my 70 442.
>> >I'm looking for some recomendations from those who have done this
>> >before.  I'm leaning towards soff seal.  Any tips or tricks?
>> >
>> >       mike
>> >
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>         Go with Metro Moulded. You will like this stuff better. Soft Seal
>> makes their weatherstrips too hard. Plus the price is the same or better.
>
>Go with Brothers (which uses Metro) and get a life time warranty.
>
>
>Chris Sparks
>

Go with Brothers. RIGHT! If you can get them to ship it.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:09:18 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: What do I do?

At 10:39 AM 7/30/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Well yesterday I tried to put the new window lacing on my 68 442 SC that
>I had on my 68 442 HT.  I really loved the stainless/aluminum (whatever)
>trim from the HT better than the rubber/metal inserted version on the
>SC.  One problem.  It didn't fit.  I guess the post got in the way.  I
>didn't want to cut or jimmy the piece on.  I still have to have the
>"B" pillar post molding to fit.  Has anyone done this type of retro-
>fitting?
>
>Also Is the "A" pillar post moldings from a HT compatible with a SC?
>The screw holes didn't seem to line up.
>
>Let me know.
>
>Chris Sparks
>

Chris

        All that stuf is different between the coupe and post cars. None of
it will interchange.

Jim Chermack

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:25:03 -0700
From: "Chris Sparks (Mr. Ada)" <sparks@nfs.aisf.com>
Subject: Re: weather stripping recomendations

Jim & Joanne Chermack wrote:

> Go with Brothers. RIGHT! If you can get them to ship it.

I got my shipment.

Chris Sparks

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:39:54 -0400
From: tchurchill@draper.com (Timothy A. Churchill)
Subject: Re: weather stripping recomendations

> Jim & Joanne Chermack wrote:
>
> > Go with Brothers. RIGHT! If you can get them to ship it.
>
> I got my shipment.
>
> Chris Sparks

I've heard some folks on the list complain about this vis-a-vis
Brother's before.  FWIW, the couple of times I've ordered stuff from them,
the parts were delivered quite promptly.  Granted, I've ordered more
frequently from Fusick's and year One, but that's more because of parts
than anything else.

Just my 2 Bars of Gold-Plated Latinum,



Tim ( 18 days Until Vacation & Counting ) Churchill
- -------------
'67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible, a.k.a. 'Big Red'
'89 Cadillac Fleetwood, a.k.a. 'Der KinderWagen'
'91 Mazda Protege, a.k.a. 'The Next Car to be Replaced'

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:45:11 -0500
From: dhamlett@mitec.net
Subject: Re: rear qtr panel for 65 Jetstar I  and lansing travel advice

Rick Anderson wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a good source for a drivers side rear qtr panel for
> a 65 Olds Jetstar I that is reasonably priced  $650/pr at Fusick's

Fusick has 65 Jetstar quarter panels???  Geez, I'd better go back and
take a second look at them.
- --

- -----------------------------------------
      Dan Hamlett
      1966 Cutlass Convertible
      1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
      mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
      http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
- -----------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:05:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Sugarmans <sugarman@berkshire.net>
Subject: 58 Olds FS - Photos

Okay,  I took some photos of the 1958 Olds 88.  Open the following
pictures:
http://www.berkshire.nte/58olds01.jpg      Front
http://www.berkshire.nte/58olds02.jpg      Side

Don't know how long I can keep these pictures on the server.  I'm running
out of allocated space.  :-(

Don Sugarman

P.S.  My son't '69 442 can be viewed at
http://www.berkshire.nte/69olds02.jpg


sugarman@berkshire.net
FAX 413-443-7395

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Date: 30 Jul 97 18:05:09 EDT
From: "deirdre. reilly" <102724.635@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: re: H/O - Hearse

Someone wrote:

<I don't know how rare they were, but according to my sources, Olds made
Hearses, Ambulances, and in 68, limousines.

During these years, a Ninety-Eight was in the 8400 or 8600 series, but I
think it's safe to assume that these 68-70 specialty cars were based on
Ninety-Eights.

In 71, the 88's were in the 5400, 6400, or 6600 series; the model number on
the 71 ambulance and hearse would make you think that they are based on an
88.  I don't really know.>

My response:

 I'm pretty sure these "professional" autos were all based upon the Olds 98.
Someone recently mentioned a Vista Cuiser ambulence also so that could be
another possible Olds to look for. Olds (as well as the other makes) only
provided the front "half" of the car on a stretched frame.  Then they would 
ship
that assembly to a different company that specialized in the neccesary
modifications.  I believe a company called Cotner-Bevington converted the Olds.
I'm not sure how many Oldsmobile were converted but from what I can tell not
many were.  The popular cars to convert were the caddy's and lincolns.

I did a little research on this subject a few months ago when I was at school
surfing the web and stumbled upon the Grim Rides homepage.  I think having a
Hearse Olds would definately be cool!!  I believe Clayton Pierce (who's not on
the list right now) found one of these a few months ago and was thinking of
buying it.  Does anyone know if he did??

I hope this sheds a little light on the subject.

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme
'83 Cutlass Ciera (coming soon)

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:30:35 -0400
From: "Terry Teague" <dawgs@conninc.com>
Subject: Re: Part needed

Lloyd W. Culp wrote:

>  There is a 1967 Olds Delta 88 that I find is available for parts in a
>
> junque yarde near me.  I have to get an antenna base for someone & a
> trim
> part for Lisa.  It is a nice complete car.  Possibly the connector is
> on
> this car.  I hope that those who need parts will contact me as I have
> lost
> some messages in changing to MS from Netscape.
>
> Bill Culp
> Decatur, Alabama
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: W30442CS@aol.com <W30442CS@aol.com>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 1997 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Part needed
>
> >looking for your plug-66> toro.  steven.  w30442cs@aol.com
> >

Bill it was me that wanted the antenna...... the teardrop shaped one
with the black base. I have the mount in the fender all I need is the
screw on antenna. Thanks let me know> Terry Teague
1968 Delta Custom
dawgs@conninc.com

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:39:20 -0500
From: "John M Dodd" <jmdodd@mychoice.net>
Subject: Re: 58 Olds FS - Photos

 I think these are the links you wanted to list.....
http://www.berkshire.net/~sugarman/58olds01.jpg
http://www.berkshire.net/~sugarman/58olds02.jpg
http://www.berkshire.net/~sugarman/69olds02.jpg



BTW I Love that 58...It's a beauty...

John

From: The Sugarmans <sugarman@berkshire.net>
To: Olds List <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 5:06 PM
Subject: 58 Olds FS - Photos



>Okay,  I took some photos of the 1958 Olds 88.  Open the following
>pictures:
>http://www.berkshire.nte/58olds01.jpg      Front
>http://www.berkshire.nte/58olds02.jpg      Side
>
>Don't know how long I can keep these pictures on the server.  I'm running
>out of allocated space.  :-(
>
>Don Sugarman
>
>P.S.  My son't '69 442 can be viewed at
>http://www.berkshire.nte/69olds02.jpg
>
>
>sugarman@berkshire.net
>FAX 413-443-7395
>

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:27:29 -0400
From: hhzimmerman <hhzimmerman@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: weather stripping recomendations

Mike Schlottman wrote:
>
> I need to replace the door and trunk weather stripping on my 70 442.
> I'm looking for some recomendations from those who have done this
> before.  I'm leaning towards soff seal.  Any tips or tricks?
>
>         mikeI got mine from Year One.  The door stripping popped right on, 
use
some yellow weather strip adhesive on the ends.

Oh, on the trunk, make sure you don't cut the ends too short where they
meet together.  don't ask.....

- -greg

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:31:28 -0400
From: "John Richmond" <richmond@tir.com>
Subject: Add me to the Lansing List

Add me to the Lansing List, just made reservations this
past weekend.

Richmond, John     Farfield Inn West   8/22-23    72 442

John Richmond
richmond@tir.com
Warren, MI
72 442/455

- ----------
> From: Cliff McFarlane <mcfrlan@bconnex.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: LANSING LIST UPDATED!
> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 1997 8:42 PM
>
> Hello everyone, I'm just adding one more name!
>
> Cliff McFarlane
> 62 Starfire conv
> 63 Starfire coupe
>
>
> Well here's the list:
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >   NAME                 HOTEL               DATE           CAR
> >   ====                 =====               ====           ===
> > Adams, Tom           Kellogg Center       8/21-24   66 Delta conv
> > Allen, Joseph        Cottenwood CG        8/20-24   57 88 J/2 conv
> > Beaulieu, Greg       Hampton Inn          8/18-23   none
> > Bicker, Steve        Quailty Suites       8/19-24   67 442
> > Blankenship, Mike    Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
> > Bradley, Terry&Barb  Regent Inn           8/20-24   71 Cutlass 70 W-30
> > Brown, David         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   77 Delta 88
> > Chermack, Jim        Marriot East         8/18-25   67 442 W-30
> > Cornea, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   70 442 W-30
> > Cremean, Matt        Blissfiend, MI       8/21      73 Cutlass Supreme
> > Culp, Bill           Park Inn Int         8/21-24   62 Jetfire
> > Easton, Jeff         Fairfield Okemos     8/20-22   70 442
> > Forsee, Ron          Hampton Inn          8/20-24   65 442
> > Glista, Nikki        Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   68 Cutlass conv
> > Glista, Richard      Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   68 442
> > Gulino, Dan          Sleep Inn            8/20-24   75 Delta 88 conv
> > Hall, Mike           Holiday Inn West     8/21-24   72 Cutlass S
> > Harkema, Doug        Holt, MI             all       70 Supreme conv
> > Hartlieb, Paul       Marriot East         8/19-23   67 98
> > Hendley, Daren       Ramada               8/20-24   none
> > Hirtle, Don          Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Horton, Everett      Sheraton             8/19-23   61 Starfire conv
> > Horton, Gordon       Sheraton             8/19-23   71 Supreme conv
> > Johnson, Ernie       Ramada               8/20-24   67 442
> > Kitchner, Doug       Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   70 Supreme conv
> > Lamb, Aaron          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   72 Cutlass
> > Loban, John          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-24   63 Starfire conv
> > McFarlane, Cliff     Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   63 Starfire
> > Melen, Ulyess        Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   71 Cutlass S
> > Nicholson, Brad      Best Western         8/19-24   94 LSS
> > O'Connor, Peg        Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   none
> > Penny, Steve         Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Prince, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   72 442 W-30
> > Prince, Michael      Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   70 Cutlass S
> > Pritchett, Bill      Radisson             8/20-23   61 98
> > Roberts, Rick        Clubhouse Inn        8/22      72 H/O
> > Ruper, Chris         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   none
> > Senko, Drew          Sheraton             8/20-23   71 Supreme conv
> > Schinkel, Rob        Red Roof Inn         8/21-22   none
> > Smetana, Chris       BW Govenors          8/20-24   possibly a 72 S
> > Smith, Brian         Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Smith, Bryce         Days Inn             8/18-23   none
> > Soball, Dave         Motel 6 Central      8/20-24   55 98
> > Stewart, Sandy       Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Thomas, Robert       Clubhoue Inn         8/22      69 442 W-32
> > Westlake, Steve      Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   63 98
> > Williams, Dan        Hampton Inn          8/20-24   68 442 conv
> > Williams, Danny      Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
> > Wilson, Jim          none                 8/19-24   64 Starfire
> > Wyatt, Dave          BW Govenors          8/20-24   70 442
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> > LIST TOTAL = 50 People

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:54:24 -0500
From: jrjet@mtco.com (Dot & Tim McChesney)
Subject: BUILDING 455

Hi All,

I have rejoined the list after being gone for awhile. I am the happy owner of a
71 Cutlass Convertible, 74 Supreme. I am currently in Central IL, Peoria to
be exact. Have wife and 2 great boys that love the cars ( yea!!).

I am writing to ask for ideas and success stories about 455's. My
Convertible has recently disowned one of its conrods.  I would like to
rebuild with more power, it was a '76 vintage engine and lacked
performance.  New engine will get 2x4's, wife gave me the intake for
Christmas. I would like to keep it streetable but still have 400+ h.p.  I
have a line on a '66 425 out of a Toro that has "c" heads, if I got them -
any word on porting and putting in the larger valves,
recomendations on type of valve.

I am in the planning stages not the spending stage so any suggestions welcome.

Tim

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:51:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Sugarmans <sugarman@berkshire.net>
Subject: Re: 58 Olds FS - Photos

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, John M Dodd wrote:

>  I think these are the links you wanted to list.....
> http://www.berkshire.net/~sugarman/58olds01.jpg
> http://www.berkshire.net/~sugarman/58olds02.jpg
> http://www.berkshire.net/~sugarman/69olds02.jpg

Thanks, John.

He's right, folks.

BTW, on the VW list members are 'volks' not folks.  Does that make Olds
list members Olds folks, so people who have lots of Oldses have Olds folks
homes and people with Oldses and VWs are Olds volks?

Don Sugarman
Household stable of vehicles (too many!):
Current:                           Past (rating, mileage when sold):
'69 442 (ª1 son's)                 '69 Cutlass S (best, 127,800)
'85 Custom Cruiser (MIL's)         '72 Vista Cruiser (great 113,000)
'92 Bravada                        '82 Omega (worst car!, 35,000)
'94 LSS                            '82 Custom Cruiser (great, 137,000)
'71 VW Campmobile (ª2 son's)
'74 Fiat X-1/9 (ª2 son's)
'89 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (For Sale)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:51:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Roger Schultz <schultz_assoc@pipeline.com>
Subject: Door locks

I have a '72 Olds 442 convertible.  The inside door handles attach to the
lock mechanism via a splined shaft that in turn is attached to an assembly
that mounts to the door with three bolts.  Over time, the spring has
weakened such that all of the door handle's throw is simply taken up winding
the spring with no throw left to actually unlock the door.  Reaching out the
window in the rain to unlock the door has become very tiresome!  All of the
door lock mechanisms I've found in junkyards have had this same malady to
greater or lesser degrees due to age.

All A-bodies must have this problem.  Has anyone fixed it by preloading the
spring, replacing the spring, or whatever?  Is there someone out there who
will fix mine for $?

Nick Davis
schultz_assoc@pipeline.com
415/999-0431
fax:  415/966-1245

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:54:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Roger Schultz <schultz_assoc@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: BUILDING 455

As you may already know, a catalog from Joe Mondello is an absolute must for
a project like this.  Though he doesn't work cheap, I'd simply send off the
heads to him with instructions to make them "right" -- valves, porting, etc.

Nick Davis


At 05:54 PM 7/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I have rejoined the list after being gone for awhile. I am the happy owner of 
a
>71 Cutlass Convertible, 74 Supreme. I am currently in Central IL, Peoria to
>be exact. Have wife and 2 great boys that love the cars ( yea!!).
>
>I am writing to ask for ideas and success stories about 455's. My
>Convertible has recently disowned one of its conrods.  I would like to
>rebuild with more power, it was a '76 vintage engine and lacked
>performance.  New engine will get 2x4's, wife gave me the intake for
>Christmas. I would like to keep it streetable but still have 400+ h.p.  I
>have a line on a '66 425 out of a Toro that has "c" heads, if I got them -
>any word on porting and putting in the larger valves,
>recomendations on type of valve.
>
>I am in the planning stages not the spending stage so any suggestions welcome.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:56:48 -0400
From: Rick Anderson <randerson@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: rear qtr panel for 65 Jetstar I

dhamlett@mitec.net wrote:
>
> Rick Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know of a good source for a drivers side rear qtr panel for
> > a 65 Olds Jetstar I that is reasonably priced  $650/pr at Fusick's
>
> Fusick has 65 Jetstar quarter panels???  Geez, I'd better go back and
> take a second look at them.
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------
>       Dan Hamlett
>       1966 Cutlass Convertible
>       1995 Cutlass Supreme SL
>       mailto:dhamlett@mitec.net
>       http://www.mitec.net/~dhamlett
> -----------------------------------------
according to the catalog I got from fusick's  they have 1 pr of orig.
full size 2dr olds rear qtr panels at $650/pr   I'm on a budget and
building a driver, I don't care if they are real or not or if they came
off a car as long as they haven't been in an accident and are already
covered in Bondo (done quite poorly i might as well add) and are lacking
a rust hole as the current one is.   I also don't need a pair  just the
driver's side.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:02:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Sugarmans <sugarman@berkshire.net>
Subject: Re: Door locks

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Roger Schultz wrote:

> window in the rain to unlock the door has become very tiresome!

I'm confused.  You drive your car in the rain?  ;-)



sugarman@berkshire.net
FAX 413-443-7395

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 97 19:31:23 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Drag radials

>I was wondering if anybody has used the BF Goodrich drag radials on
>there Olds???? I was at the track last Wednesday and didn't notice
>anyone running them....

Some of my Olds pals over here in Detroit Metro are running them and to
the best of my knowledge are very satisfied with their performance. These
W-30's are 11 to 12 something second quarter milers (don't remember the
exact numbers). I can't speak on the wear issue, haven't heard anything
to that effect. I am planning on picking up a pair for my Cutlass. I
don't put any more than 3000 miles a year on the car so I will report on
the wear later on. The Olds will also be raced a couple of times a year
as well...

I noticed in one of their ads (BF Goodrich) that a guy won the 1996 NMCA
(Stock ET) at 9.51 sec/146 mph on these street radials (with a Chevelle
SS 454 boo-hiss;-). Anyway, looks like its performance is not in
question...


Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Oldsmobile Stable:
     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 380 horses of pure Mondello fun...
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:54:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Lansing List

Here's a new one on me... majordummy doesn't like the phrase "add m*"...

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:"John Richmond" <richmond@tir.com>
Subject: Add m* to the Lansing List

Add m* to the Lansing List, just made reservations this
past weekend.

Richmond, John     Farfield Inn West   8/22-23    72 442

John Richmond
richmond@tir.com
Warren, MI
72 442/455

- ----------
> From: Cliff McFarlane <mcfrlan@bconnex.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: LANSING LIST UPDATED!
> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 1997 8:42 PM
>
> Hello everyone, I'm just adding one more name!
>
> Cliff McFarlane
> 62 Starfire conv
> 63 Starfire coupe
>
>
> Well here's the list:
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >   NAME                 HOTEL               DATE           CAR
> >   ====                 =====               ====           ===
> > Adams, Tom           Kellogg Center       8/21-24   66 Delta conv
> > Allen, Joseph        Cottenwood CG        8/20-24   57 88 J/2 conv
> > Beaulieu, Greg       Hampton Inn          8/18-23   none
> > Bicker, Steve        Quailty Suites       8/19-24   67 442
> > Blankenship, Mike    Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
> > Bradley, Terry&Barb  Regent Inn           8/20-24   71 Cutlass 70 W-30
> > Brown, David         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   77 Delta 88
> > Chermack, Jim        Marriot East         8/18-25   67 442 W-30
> > Cornea, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   70 442 W-30
> > Cremean, Matt        Blissfiend, MI       8/21      73 Cutlass Supreme
> > Culp, Bill           Park Inn Int         8/21-24   62 Jetfire
> > Easton, Jeff         Fairfield Okemos     8/20-22   70 442
> > Forsee, Ron          Hampton Inn          8/20-24   65 442
> > Glista, Nikki        Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   68 Cutlass conv
> > Glista, Richard      Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   68 442
> > Gulino, Dan          Sleep Inn            8/20-24   75 Delta 88 conv
> > Hall, Mike           Holiday Inn West     8/21-24   72 Cutlass S
> > Harkema, Doug        Holt, MI             all       70 Supreme conv
> > Hartlieb, Paul       Marriot East         8/19-23   67 98
> > Hendley, Daren       Ramada               8/20-24   none
> > Hirtle, Don          Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Horton, Everett      Sheraton             8/19-23   61 Starfire conv
> > Horton, Gordon       Sheraton             8/19-23   71 Supreme conv
> > Johnson, Ernie       Ramada               8/20-24   67 442
> > Kitchner, Doug       Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   70 Supreme conv
> > Lamb, Aaron          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   72 Cutlass
> > Loban, John          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-24   63 Starfire conv
> > McFarlane, Cliff     Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   63 Starfire
> > Melen, Ulyess        Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   71 Cutlass S
> > Nicholson, Brad      Best Western         8/19-24   94 LSS
> > O'Connor, Peg        Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   none
> > Penny, Steve         Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Prince, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   72 442 W-30
> > Prince, Michael      Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   70 Cutlass S
> > Pritchett, Bill      Radisson             8/20-23   61 98
> > Roberts, Rick        Clubhouse Inn        8/22      72 H/O
> > Ruper, Chris         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   none
> > Senko, Drew          Sheraton             8/20-23   71 Supreme conv
> > Schinkel, Rob        Red Roof Inn         8/21-22   none
> > Smetana, Chris       BW Govenors          8/20-24   possibly a 72 S
> > Smith, Brian         Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Smith, Bryce         Days Inn             8/18-23   none
> > Soball, Dave         Motel 6 Central      8/20-24   55 98
> > Stewart, Sandy       Hampton              8/18-23   none
> > Thomas, Robert       Clubhoue Inn         8/22      69 442 W-32
> > Westlake, Steve      Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   63 98
> > Williams, Dan        Hampton Inn          8/20-24   68 442 conv
> > Williams, Danny      Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
> > Wilson, Jim          none                 8/19-24   64 Starfire
> > Wyatt, Dave          BW Govenors          8/20-24   70 442
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> > LIST TOTAL = 50 People

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:58:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Latest JWO

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Andrew C. Green wrote:
> >Got the August issue yesterday... noted that there was a nice write-up on
> >the April Olds Club of Florida show, complete with pictures of longtime
> >list members Bob Handren (who chaired the show) and Peg O'Connor. BTW,
> >Peg won an award of dubious distinction... ;-)
>
> ...and that would be...?

In the interests of list decorum I'll let Peg announce the name of the
award if she chooses to... don't want to cast any aspersions on her fine
name... ;-)

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:44:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: BMAN6771@aol.com
Subject: Re: 1970 w-30 4-speed

hey,i was wondering what a dual gate-complete is goin for these days?????

brent
1967 cutlass conv (being restored)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:07:37 -0400
From: "Bradford W. Nicholson" <brad442@erols.com>
Subject: OCA Web Page Updated (New Software)

All,
The "Official" Oldsmobile Club of America Web Site is up and running at
http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca

If you have a link to it, please double check it as the old addresses of
http://www.erols.com/brad442/ocahome.htm
http://www.erols.com/brad442/ocahome.html
http://www.erols.com/brad442/OCAHome.htm
http://www.erols.com/brad442/OCAHome.html
...are incorrect.  There is a detour that will redirect the viewer to
the correct address.

Newsgroup info will be going up soon, along w/ merchandise info.
There really isn't much change visually, but it has been redone using
HotDog Pro v3, the old on was done w/ Adobe PageMill 2.0 beta.  Hot Dog
is much better.
http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca

If it gets approved by the oCA board of directors in Lansing, there
should be a www.oldsclub.com up soon!

Later and see ya in Lansing!!!
- --

 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson
| | | 1987 442 W-42
|/|\| 1994 Eight Eight LSS
| | | Oldsmobile Club of America ª18984
 ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - MD
e-Mail: brad442@erols.com
Personal Web Site - http://www.erols.com/brad442
Official OCA Web Site - http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:20:45 -0400
From: "Steve B." <steveb@thecia.net>
Subject: Re: Drag radials

Brad Bowles wrote:
>

> I know several people at the track (sears point) that run the drag
> radials and none of them like them.  They don't grip, they wear fast,
> and cost more that the others.  Most people say, for the best "street
> legal" tires, the M&H tires are the way to go
> Brad
> 70 442

Interesting, I have a set of M&H's now and I don't like them for the
street because they are basically grooved drag slicks..I want to get
away from them cause they have tubes and are not radials...They do stick
like glue though....

Thanks for the Response!!!

Steve
71 Cutlass S 455
93 Mustang LX 5.0

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:46:19 -0400
From: "Steve B." <steveb@thecia.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Day

Robert Barry wrote:
>
> >       I didn't know that Olds day even existed, but I'll try to make
> >it. by the way, this question is for anyone who can help. There was talk
> >of a drag strip that was going to be put in Rhode Island, and then all of
> >a sudden, I never heard anything more about it. Does anyone know the
> >progress of this track, or if it will even exist? Thanks.
>
> I'd love to make a trip up there; might even have the SX in operation by 
then!
>
>
> _______________________________________________________
> Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
> Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

Great!!! I hope to see you guys up there... If you need more info or
directions drop me a line...

Steve
71 Cutlass S 455
93 Mustang LX 5.0

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:50:02 -0700
From: mefco@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: 70 442 convertible 4-speed

Tom,
Production figures for 70 442 convertible 4 speed was 529. I have one with
36,000 original miles.

Art Fuller
mefco@sprynet.com

p.s. This past weekend when I went to my buddy's shop to work on my frame off,
he had a red car like the one described above, with factory air. I have no idea
how many of those were made.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:55:13 -0700
From: mefco@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: w-30 ID

Keith,
If you don't have a build sheet, look for an OW transmission with the car's VIN
on the drivers side.

Art Fuller
mefco@sprynet.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:00:42 -0700
From: mefco@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Rear wing

Brad,
It sounds like you have a reproduction wing. The originals had three studs, not
two. The assembly manual shows exactly how to mount the spoiler.

Art Fuller
mefco@sprynet.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:57:25 -0400
From: Cliff McFarlane <mcfrlan@bconnex.net>
Subject: LANSING LIST

Adding yet another name!

Cliff McFarlane
62 Starfire conv
63 Starfire coupe
________________________________________________________________________
>    NAME                 HOTEL               DATE           CAR
>    ====                 =====               ====           ===
> Adams, Tom           Kellogg Center       8/21-24   66 Delta conv
> Allen, Joseph        Cottenwood CG        8/20-24   57 88 J/2 conv
> Beaulieu, Greg       Hampton Inn          8/18-23   none
> Bicker, Steve        Quailty Suites       8/19-24   67 442
> Blankenship, Mike    Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
> Bradley, Terry&Barb  Regent Inn           8/20-24   71 Cutlass 70 W-30
> Brown, David         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   77 Delta 88
> Chermack, Jim        Marriot East         8/18-25   67 442 W-30
> Cornea, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   70 442 W-30
> Cremean, Matt        Blissfiend, MI       8/21      73 Cutlass Supreme
> Culp, Bill           Park Inn Int         8/21-24   62 Jetfire
> Easton, Jeff         Fairfield Okemos     8/20-22   70 442
> Forsee, Ron          Hampton Inn          8/20-24   65 442
> Glista, Nikki        Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   68 Cutlass conv
> Glista, Richard      Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   68 442
> Gulino, Dan          Sleep Inn            8/20-24   75 Delta 88 conv
> Hall, Mike           Holiday Inn West     8/21-24   72 Cutlass S
> Harkema, Doug        Holt, MI             all       70 Supreme conv
> Hartlieb, Paul       Marriot East         8/19-23   67 98
> Hendley, Daren       Ramada               8/20-24   none
> Hirtle, Don          Hampton              8/18-23   none
> Horton, Everett      Sheraton             8/19-23   61 Starfire conv
> Horton, Gordon       Sheraton             8/19-23   71 Supreme conv
> Johnson, Ernie       Ramada               8/20-24   67 442
> Kitchner, Doug       Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   70 Supreme conv
> Kobinsky, Jeff&Patti Days Inn             8/20-22   86 98
> Lamb, Aaron          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   72 Cutlass
> Loban, John          Clubhouse Inn        8/20-24   63 Starfire conv
> McFarlane, Cliff     Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   63 Starfire
> Melen, Ulyess        Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   71 Cutlass S
> Nicholson, Brad      Best Western         8/19-24   94 LSS
> O'Connor, Peg        Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   none
> Penny, Steve         Hampton              8/18-23   none
> Prince, Mark         Clubhouse Inn        8/19-24   72 442 W-30
> Prince, Michael      Clubhouse Inn        8/20-23   70 Cutlass S
> Pritchett, Bill      Radisson             8/20-23   61 98
> Richmond, John       FairField Inn West   8/22-23   72 442
> Roberts, Rick        Clubhouse Inn        8/22      72 H/O
> Ruper, Chris         Best Western-Midway  8/19-24   none
> Senko, Drew          Sheraton             8/20-23   71 Supreme conv
> Schinkel, Rob        Red Roof Inn         8/21-22   none
> Smetana, Chris       BW Govenors          8/20-24   possibly a 72 S
> Smith, Brian         Hampton              8/18-23   none
> Smith, Bryce         Days Inn             8/18-23   none
> Soball, Dave         Motel 6 Central      8/20-24   55 98
> Stewart, Sandy       Hampton              8/18-23   none
> Thomas, Robert       Clubhoue Inn         8/22      69 442 W-32
> Westlake, Steve      Holiday Inn West     8/19-24   63 98
> Williams, Dan        Hampton Inn          8/20-24   68 442 conv
> Williams, Danny      Red Roof Inn         8/20-24   none
> Wilson, Jim          none                 8/19-24   64 Starfire
> Wyatt, Dave          BW Govenors          8/20-24   70 442
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> LIST TOTAL = 52 People

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:15:06 -0500
From: theogns <theogns@avana.net>
Subject: Re: H/O -- Hearse

>
> So before you start planning your "final ride", perhaps you should track
> down a 68 limo for your daily rides now.  Keep an Olds ambulance in the
> garage for emergencies.

Only if my stable were large enough. Still I may plan on a Hearse with a
W-30 455, duals, 4 spd and OAI. Thanks for the info.

Danny

'70 4-4-2 The Experience
'70 4-4-2 W-30
'70 4-4-2

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:07:08 -0400
From: Jason Adcock <adcockjk@erols.com>
Subject: RE: What a Day for a Rocket Ride

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I hear that!  I just go the Cutlass back this evening from the =
speedshop.  It was getting a makeover (PST front end suspension kit).  =
Those polygraphite bushings REALLY make a difference!!!!!  I also needed =
an idler arm, so the steering is tightened up, too.  MAN, it runs great! =
 Even better after a nice wash...

 Jason Adcock
 OCA ª028044
 adcockjk@erols.com

 1984 Cutlass Calais RWD V8
 75K Miles, CC1, F41, LV2, N66
 http://www.erols.com/adcockjk/jason/cutlass.html
 Also viewable through http://www.442.com

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From:david wyatt [SMTP:Wyatt_David_L@LILLY.COM]
Sent:Tuesday, July 29, 1997 8:29 AM
To:oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject:What a Day for a Rocket Ride

After suffering through the heat and humidity last week here in Indiana,
I woke up this morning to a very pleasant 62 degrees, sunshine and a
expected high of 82.  My thoughts immediately turned to the 4-4-2 and
how nice it would be to drive it to work.  I smiled all the way here!=20
And now it sits in the lot waiting for me at the end of the work day,
something else to look forward to.  The only bad part was getting out
and walking in to the office.
=09
Getting ready for Lansing,
Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 02:56:19 UT
From: "Daniele Scopone" <DrOldsmo@msn.com>
Subject: 68 442 Taillamp Bezels

What is the proper paint color for the tail light bezels for the
68.....somebody please let me know!!  Please Email me at:

DrOldsmo@msn.com

Thanks

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:35:12 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: dream car

I've got a couple of larger ones for my 'larger' family.  Check out my web
page (P.S. No Toronado pictures yet).


Lisa Madsen

Heavy Metal Forever - '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom , '72 Vista Cruiser
, '69 Toronado

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:53:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: RS liquidation?

Wife says life sucks real bad right now, so I have to sell of some of my toys.

These are mostly stuffs that I would not even sell if I did not have to.

'83 Jeep CJ7, w/ hardtop. New motor & tires. Works great. $2000

'68 Toronado, runs, looks OK, new master cyl., needs more brake work. Dark
green with dark green interior. Chrome wheels which would fit disk
brakes if this car had them, which it does not. PW, PSeat, Tilt&Tele, 8-track
player. Hole where radio was. Many newer parts- shocks, etc. Good exhaust. 
Needs
vinyl top replaced, will be very presentable driver. Currently has a nice '67
Toro 425 with '72 Toro heads & intake. $1000 as is, or $600 w/o that motor but
w/ its original C-head 455, which needs a refreshing.

Street dominator intake for the small block, fits HEI, $50.

Edelbrock OL4B intake for the small block, massive runners, probably does not
fit HEI, would make a killer 403 intake, $100.

Newish Edelbrock spread-bore carb, used for 6 months. Slightly tarnished, but
otherwise perfectly serviceable, $100.

NOS carb, '69 442 MT exc. W30, ª7029253. Absolutely new, never bolted on,
perfect. Was asking $400, what I paid for it. Will sell for $300, or make an
offer.

Set of 4 SSI wheels, correct "695C" code. No center caps. Light rust here &
there. Fairly pretty as is, should be repainted for a real nice car. $200.

Misc. W/Z xst manifolds, all with some flaws, broken ear or crack at the center
divider, etc. $20 each.

'68 Toro 455 motor, complete core motor less carb. $200, you pick it up here in
mid-MI. No, it does not have the forged crank, that's a rumor circulated by
reprobates.

'70 455 motor, complete core motor less carb. $100, you pick it up here.

403 motor, said to run, pan was off to look for the elusive "Solid Main Webs",
true condition unknown, $100. you pick it up.

403 motor, complete with xst manifolds, carb. My personal motor for years. Ran
great last time it was fired up in my 67 Cutlass. $200. You pick it up.

- --
Chris  B. Witt
1303 W. Miller Rd
Lansing, MI 48911

517-882-9747

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:16:24 -0400
From: Mike Rothe <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: 69 hood scoop decals

I don't usually do this but:

For sale

69 "H/O 455" hood scoop decals.  Closest match to original.  Had 'em
made from originals on my hood scoop.  Gold metallic with black
outline.  Premium materials used, premasked for easy application.
$23/set, check or money order.  Satisfaction guaranteed.  Individually
numbered sets.

Mike Rothe
728 Palm Drive
Aiken, SC 29803

e-mail mrothe@prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:39:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Jokes?

1- I missed the joke that stirred up such controversy here about 2-3 weeks ago,
can someone fwd it to me?

2- Here's one that even a kid can appreciate:

Why does a chicken coup have two doors?

Because if it had 4 doors it'd be a chicken SEDAN.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

3- Obligatory Olds content:
I must be thankful that as yet, things are not so bad that I have to sell off
the W30's with all their paraphernalia, the tri-carb intake setup, etc.
- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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