
oldsmobile-digest        Friday, July 25 1997        Volume 01 : Number 770



My Parts (CANADIAN prices)
Re: how do you touch up door panels?
Re: 68-72 Cutlass and 442 Parts
Re: 68-72 Cutlass and 442 Parts
Re: stock valve covers needed for 455
Re: spare tire? whats stock?
Re: 68-72 Cutlass and 442 Parts
81 Cutlass Wagon may live
Re: DASH TRIM
Re: DASH TRIM
Smoky Mountain Olds Show
Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997
RE: New exhaust...faster car?
Re: New exhaust...faster car?
Leaving for the time being..
Re: California Smog Part II
Re: Wonder Wagons
Re: California Smog Part II
Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997
Re[2]: Yesterday's HEI Woes (WAS Re: Conversion Detail)
Re: parts needed;questions
Yesterday's HEI Woes (WAS Re: Conversion Detail)
Olds Parts
Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997
Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997
Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997
Re: Ohio Construction
64 Starfire convertible
Re: How do you build a hot tank?
Re: UNBOUNCE: '62 F-85 Parts
Re: How do you build a hot tank?
Does anyone know of a marshall or Chad Sageser

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:56:51 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: My Parts (CANADIAN prices)

Following is a list of parts for sale all prices are negotiable a little. 
Trades are welcome
Preferably for complete cruise control for 1970 ONLY or NOS front or rear
bumpers for 70
442. or 70-72 Tach and Gauges

71 4 speed console Dark Green Exc.	$250.00
68 3 speed Standard Console Mint Green	$300.00
NOS Boxed Control Arms (GM)	$280.00
72 442 Grills	$250.00
70-72 NOS Wheel Well Chrome Set of 4 /1 spare	$600.00
68 Front Bumper Straight but needs rechroming	$75.00
68 Rad Cradle(support) for 3 Core (Southern)	$100.00
68 Rad Cradle(support) for 4 Core (southern)	$125.00
68 14x6 SSII rims missing a trim ring (5 in all)	$125.00
68 442 Rear bumper straight but need to be chromed (No rust)	$150.00
68 Tach and Gauges	$325.00
69 Convertible Tinted Windshield	$100.00
69 Black Dash Pad Exc.	$100.00
69 442 Grills Flawless	$250.00
69 Headlight Housing Exc.	$100.00
69 Cutlass Grills VGC	$125.00
70 Sport Steering Wheel 	$100.00
70 Sport Mirrors	$175.00
70-72 Dashes Lots and choice of colors	$75.00
69-70 442 Emblems All NOS Full Set 	$300.00
68 442 Engine Complete Carb to Pan 
Includes one of the Exhaust manifolds "Y"	$600.00
68 OG Th 400 	$150.00
70 OG Th 400	$150.00
I figure this is enough for now 
I have lots of small parts like over 150 1970 Taillight lens 
Like others it's probably hard to find parts so you might find yourself
buying a car to part so you can keep
Parts you need .   I have had to do the same .  Sadly that means I have
parted well over 20 cars in the past three 
Years including W-30's and Convertibles 
So if you find yourself needing a part Not extremely rare I might have it
So E me 
Oh Shipping is extra and all prices are CANADIAN so you Yanks figure the
40% exchange on your
dollar to figure the price for you 

Thanks All 

Robert Schinkel
1970 W-31
1970 442 Conv.
1970 Cutlass Conv.
docbob@caninet.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:58:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: DEOVIVERE@aol.com
Subject: Re: how do you touch up door panels?

You wrote:
The chrome trim, (around the woodgrain), on my door panels look peeled. 
What's the best and nicest looking way to re-do this chrome colored 
trim?

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.

I don't have a lot of experience in this, so I'm looking forward to other
answers that pop up.  I have found that a silver paint pen that I found at
Home Depot (also spotted at Wall-Mart) in the paint section does a passable
job of making me forget that the chrome has worn off the many plastic parts
of my interior that experienced any kind of regular traffic or wear over the
years.  It has restored an even and fairly metallic appearance to the chrome
that once highlighted my airvents, door panels and that little double line
that traverses my entire dash (71 Supreme).  

With the pen medium, it is easy to apply on fine, narrow, or hard to reach
places.  I would caution, however, that it doesn't blend well with remaining
chrome.  If you have a trim line that still has some chrome on it that you
want to keep, don't use the silver paint pen to try to match it, unless it
doesn't have high visibility, for the difference is noticeable.  

This has worked for me.  I look forward to learning more from this string.

Tom Simmons
71 SX

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:54:56 +0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: 68-72 Cutlass and 442 Parts

Robert Schinkel wrote:
> 
> Before I post my good parts on the list
> I would like to ask permission
> Is this frowned upon or is this OK
> Not lots of parts just about 10 - 20 parts
> 
> Robert Schinkel

Robert,

I'd like to hear about them.  I beleive that the ground rules are that
they meet a potential need on the list & that the offer isn't repeated
every couple of days.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

P.S.  Prices must be cheap enough that I can pay w/Confederate money.

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 97 22:50:59 EDT
From: Glenn Connors <gpc442@buffnet.net>
Subject: Re: 68-72 Cutlass and 442 Parts

At 06:57 PM 7/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Before I post my good parts on the list 
>I would like to ask permission
>Is this frowned upon or is this OK
>Not lots of parts just about 10 - 20 parts
>
>
  Go ahead but please don't make it a daily post.  You might have a piece or
two that someone might need.

  Glenn
  '69 4-4-2

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:51:54 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: stock valve covers needed for 455

At 06:10 PM 7/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm looking for and original set of stock valve covers for a 1971 455 
>w/air.  (The ones with the notch for the brake booster)
>
>I have a set of Chrome valve covers that fit the same, and are in EC.  
>(The tops are flat and do NOT have "Oldsmobile stamped in them)
>
>If anyone is interested, make me an offer.
>
>RC Hellebuyck
>1971 4-4-2 covt.
>
RC

        We have a couple sets of the Notched Valve Covers. They run $50.00 pr.

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:52:53 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: spare tire? whats stock?

At 06:16 PM 7/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>My 71 4-4-2 originally had SS-I wheels on it, however the spare is a 
>SS-II wheel.  
>
>To make the car authentic, shouldn't the spare match the wheels that's 
>on it?  Or in other words, if I ordered a Cutlass back in 1971 with 
>SS-I wheels would the spare match?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>RC Hellebuyck
>1971 4-4-2 covt. 
>
RC

        Yes!

Jim Chermack

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 02:05:33 -0400
From: Stefan Gadecki <Sgadecki@student.umass.edu>
Subject: Re: 68-72 Cutlass and 442 Parts

Robert Schinkel wrote:
> 
> Before I post my good parts on the list
> I would like to ask permission
> Is this frowned upon or is this OK
> Not lots of parts just about 10 - 20 parts
> 
> Robert Schinkel

I would like to see your list, so if you don't post it, please e-mail it
to me at sgadecki@student.umass.edu
I have a '70 cutlass that could use some parts.
		Thanks, Stefan Gadecki

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 06:13:39 -0500
From: katana72@juno.com (Rob T)
Subject: 81 Cutlass Wagon may live

A couple of weeks ago, I posted my 81 wagon for sale, cheap. Well, nobody
was seriously interested, so I called a "junkman" to come and rid me of
my space waster. I figured that the car would get crushed and wasn't too
happy about that. After a brief conversation with the junkman, I found
out that he lives in an area not affected by the ridiculous emissions
test here in MN. He also informed me that he had another early 80's
Cutlass with a 350/350 set-up that had a wasted body. I guess the MN
winters had taken their toll on the beast. He also said it had no title,
so he couldn't sell it. His plans are to transplant the motor/ tranny
from the rustbucket into the wagon and possibly sell the wagon or keep
it. So, I was a little happy about that, because I just can't reason a
perfectly good car getting crushed. Just to let you peoploe know, the
Cutlass won't see the crusher, at least not in the near future.

Rob
Katana72          "It's NOT yourDaddy's Oldsmobile !!!!!    Hastings, MN
Another one cheats the Crusher!!!

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:52:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: WKBZZZZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: DASH TRIM

thank's

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:56:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: WKBZZZZ@aol.com
Subject: Re: DASH TRIM

Thanks Tom

         I'll call them.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 08:01:07 -0400
From: Jay Britt <jbritt@nas1.360.cdpd.net>
Subject: Smoky Mountain Olds Show

I was wondering if anyone on the list will be at the Smoky Mountain
Oldsmobile Show in Knoxville, TN. on August 2. This will be my first
time at this show, has anyone been to it in the past?.
I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of cool cars and maybe find a part
or two.

Hope to see you there,
Jay Britt
OCA#29460
'67 Cutlass Supreme
'89 Cutlass Calais Quad4

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:52:14 -0500
From: "Easton,Jeffrey" <Jeff.Easton@abbott.com>
Subject: Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997

From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>

>I've got a proposal for a get-together this year;

>... The 7th annual Vintage Transport Extravaganza at
>the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IL.
>... on Sunday, August 3rd they're having the 7th Annual
>Transport Extravaganza, at which they invite collectors of all
>sorts of transportation, especially cars, to bring their stuff
>and display it there.

>Best of all, if you bring a car to display, you get in free.

>So what I propose is that we meet there. We not only get to meet
>each other, but also see a lot of _other_ antique Oldsmobiles,
>perhaps sign up a few more Olds fans for the mailing list, and
>generally have a blast looking at cars, trains and whatever else
shows up.

Count me in.  Is there anyway we can park together?  Maybe we
should set a time to meet at the entrance or somthing.

- -Jeff
jeffrey.easton@add.ssw.abbott.com

1970  442  4-Speed

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 08:56:52 -0400
From: "Proietto, Fernando [Ontario]" <Fernando.Proietto@ec.gc.ca>
Subject: RE: New exhaust...faster car?

Matt,
	one thing for sure, people will here you coming. That might
contribute to that fact that you will go faster although, this exhaust
system you're going to put on should give you about 10-15% more power
over all over stock form. Did you say that you already had duals?
Remember that  '73 Cutlasses used a catalytic converter, which tends to
prevent more horse power. As for resonators, I don't think you have them
on a '73 Cutlass, just mufflers. 

Fernando Proietto
Systems Analyst - Informatics

Environment Canada
Ontario Region - Monitoring & Systems Branch
4905 Dufferin St. 
Downsview, Ontario
M3H 5T4

> ----------
> From: 	Matt Cremean[SMTP:ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu]
> Sent: 	Thursday, July 24, 1997 6:27 PM
> To: 	Oldsmobile List
> Subject: 	New exhaust...faster car?
> 
> Hey guys (and gals),
> 
> 	Well, my pappy went and picked up my Heddman Hedders today while
> I was
> at one of my two jobs. I got a pair of Flowmasters in my garage. They
> will all come togethor (hopefully Saturday) on 2 1/2" stainless pipes.
> (woo-hoo!) I hope this system will be worth it, for all the money I'm
> spending! Will these make my car faster? Even just a little? It has
> stock 2" pipies, manifolds and resonators (i think?). I should get a
> good power boost right?
> -- 
> 

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:15:49 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: New exhaust...faster car?

Proietto, Fernando [Ontario] wrote:
> 
> Matt,
>         one thing for sure, people will here you coming. That might
> contribute to that fact that you will go faster although, this exhaust
> system you're going to put on should give you about 10-15% more power
> over all over stock form. Did you say that you already had duals?
> Remember that  '73 Cutlasses used a catalytic converter, which tends to
> prevent more horse power. As for resonators, I don't think you have them
> on a '73 Cutlass, just mufflers.

Yes, I already have dual exhaust, but 73's did not have Cattys. They
man-dated them in 75, but some started using them in 74. I know that
they started using EGR in 73. And I thought Resonators were just a
smaller kind of muffler. Mufflers are generally BIG right?

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:13:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: NotDads442@aol.com
Subject: Leaving for the time being..

Hi All,

I will be *ns*bscribing for the time being.  I will be leaving on vacation
for awhile and don't want my mailbox to overflow.  

We are headed to the Brickyard 400 in Indy.  Anybody else going?  E-mail me
privately and maybe we can hook up while there.

Gotta Go
Cecil
1991 W-41

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:29:46 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: California Smog Part II

We have made up a form.  If you don't catch the post along with these, let
me know & I'll forward the address.

Lisa

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:35:58 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Wonder Wagons

I have only seen him at our other Sept. show up here in Yorba Linda.  If
he's there again this year I'll see if he's going to the Julian run.  If
he's not there, maybe our secty. can direct me to him personally, etc. and
I can check on when & where he'll be.

Will keep you posted.


Lisa Madsen

Heavy Metal Forever - '66 Toronado, '67 Delta 88 Custom , '72 Vista Cruiser
, '69 Toronado 

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:38:38 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: California Smog Part II

>
>A previous article had said something about internet messages 
>being sent tothe Capital or the Committee, does anyone know 
>that address?  I am from Kansas but would be more than willing 
>to lend my suppost via the net, and I could do a letter that could
> be forwarded to many car enthusiast friends that would be more
> than willing to respond to them also.....Let us know....TIM
>
>Here is the form site to send e-mail on this:

 http://exo.com/~jht/truck/sb-42/message2.html

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:12:33 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>
Subject: Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997

jeffrey.easton@add.ssw.abbott.com writes:

>> ... The 7th annual Vintage Transport Extravaganza at
>> the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IL.
>> ... on Sunday, August 3rd they're having the 7th Annual
>> Transport Extravaganza, at which they invite collectors of all
>> sorts of transportation, especially cars, to bring their stuff
>> and display it there.
>
> Count me in.  Is there anyway we can park together?  Maybe we
> should set a time to meet at the entrance or somthing.

Not necessary; you _will_ park together. The museum will allocate 
space for you all to park together, and if memory serves from last 
year, will also produce a small sign identifying the "club" 
displaying there. (BTW, what _is_ our official name???) This is 
what the "club number" is for that I will be receiving in the info
packet and which you will need to provide when you get to the gate.

So for instance, last year there was a whole bunch of Olds all
clustered together on a lawn and identified as "Illinois Olds Club"
or something like that. Then there'd be some '55-'57 Chevies a bit
further down, identified as the "Tri-Chevy Club". Go around the
corner of a train shed and here's another stretch of lawn with
'50's Oldsmobiles on it and another sign reading "Olds Club of
Iowa". You get the idea.

I imagine they'll want a ballpark idea of how many cars to expect,
though the distribution of vehicles last year was on various lawns
all throughout the grounds, so it's not like there'll be a stampede
for parking space. I'll know more as soon as the info packet arrives
tomorrow and will post the details immediately.

Now, come on! We need someone else to keep Jeff company with another
car, and watch his for him while he goes off to ride choo-choos!

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@dlogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 97 09:59:28 -0500
From: "Padavano.Joe" <padavano.joe@Orbital.COM>
Subject: Re[2]: Yesterday's HEI Woes (WAS Re: Conversion Detail)

In his continuing saga of HEI installation, Tim Churchill wrote:

I should have described the problem a bit more, the rubbing occurs right 
near the firewall, where the throttle linkage pivots on the bracket.  The 
otherside of this linkage is some sort of switch or sender, with three 
terminals on the driver's side.  Unused, of course, methinks this must've 
been used with the 2 speed tranny originally in the car, but that's just 
conjecture on my part -- someone here knows for sure, I'll wager.
     
     You are correct, the switch is intended to work the kickdown on the 
     original Jetaway.
     
     I looked at my 66, and the firewall-mounted hardware consists of two 
     parts:
     
        A bracket which bolts to the firewall
     
        The aforementioned switch, which bolts to this bracket and which    
        includes the actual pivot mechanism.
     
     As you correctly note, shimming the linkage won't help.  It does 
     appear, however, that a spacer (say, ~1/4 inch thick) could be 
     inserted between the switch assembly and the firewall-mounted bracket. 
     You may need longer bolts for this.  This should move the entire 
     switch/bellcrank assembly outboard and away from the HEI.  The only 
     possible drawback is the rod from the accelerator pedal to the 
     bellcrank - it isn't clear if shimming the switch will cause a new 
     rubbing problem.
     
     Good luck
     
     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com
     
     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30
     

     
     

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:42:20 -0400
From: Todd Morris <toddmorr@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: parts needed;questions

>The inner liner of the hoses can break down, and obstruct the flow of brake
>fluid, to the point where it is completely blocked (I had this problem with
>my Toronado). Before it gets to that point, however, a partial blockage will
>affect the proportion of the breaking pressure that one cylinder receives,
>relative to the others, resulting in a pull.

This is very true.  I had a pulling problem 2 years ago with a 70 Cutlass,
looked at all kinds of things trying to diagnose the problem and it turned out
to be a partially blocked hose.  The fluid flows fine one way but then flows
at a slower rate back towards the master cylinder when the brakes are released,
thus causing the pulling.  Externally the hoses looked fine.

Todd Morris
71 442

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:06:20 -0700
From: Christian Fair <cfair@fairisaac.com>
Subject: Yesterday's HEI Woes (WAS Re: Conversion Detail)

Just a thought, but the big cars from 65-66 used a threaded rod throttle
approach, perhaps some of these parts could be used to solve the problem.

I have an HEI in mine and the (fairly complex) throttle rod system clears
with lots of room to spare, at least an inch or so.

cf

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:13:07 -0500
From: "Vince Caldronia" <caldrovp@bmoa.swz.dupont.com>
Subject: Olds Parts

I am in need of a window regulator for a 1985 Olds Cutlass Supreme Brougham
with power windows, drivers door. 

Thanks
Vince

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:59:02 -0500
From: "Easton,Jeffrey" <Jeff.Easton@abbott.com>
Subject: Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997

>Not necessary; you _will_ park together.

Great.  Unless nobody else is going, in which case it
looks like I'll have to go over to the IVOC space and
sponge off of them...  :-)

>
The museum will allocate
>space for you all to park together, and if memory serves from last
>year, will also produce a small sign identifying the "club"
>displaying there. (BTW, what _is_ our official name???)

Oldsmobile Club of the Internet  ?  :-)  How about the Rocket AT symbol?

>Now, come on! We need someone else to keep Jeff company with another
>car, and watch his for him while he goes off to ride choo-choos!

Nah, I just need somebody to distract the officials while I pry one of
those 1500 HP prime movers out of a nearby Engine.

Now _that_ would make some torque!  :-)

- -Jeff
jeffrey.easton@add.ssw.abbott.com

1970  442  4-Speed

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:21:18 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>
Subject: Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997

>Oldsmobile Club of the Internet  ?  :-)  How about the Rocket AT symbol?

I thought we _had_ a name; I just can't remember what it is.

>Nah, I just need somebody to distract the officials while I pry one of
>those 1500 HP prime movers out of a nearby Engine.
>
>Now _that_ would make some torque!  :-)

Doubtful. You can't put that engine in your car... You could
probably put your car in the engine, however.  :-)


Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@dlogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:40:56 -0500
From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>
Subject: Re: Chicago Area Get-together 1997

I've had some email and phone inquiries already; here's a recap
of the details to date:

1) It's on SUNDAY, AUGUST 3rd.

2) It's at the Illinois Rail Museum, Union, IL, in the rolling
countryside northwest of Chicago. You take I-90 to get there.

3) It's part of their massive Transport Extravaganza Day, where 
all local and regional car clubs are invited to participate. The
place will be awash in Oldsmobiles and other marques.

4) I should be receiving an info packet tomorrow which contains a
Club Number for us. You will need to register with this number.
It entitles you to get in free (if I recall right) and display
your car in an area reserved for us.

5) You register prior to the day, not by driving up to the gate. :-)
I will have the registration info; you'll work with me on this. More
details will be coming.

6) If you want to read more about the museum, their web page is at
http://www.irm.org/ There is also a link there to a detail page
about the Transport Extravaganza Day.

7) Other contact information for the museum, from their web page:

> Recorded information is available by calling 815-923-4000 or 
> 1-800-BIG-RAIL.
>
> Antique auto and truck owners are invited to display their 
> vehicles in our 7th annual Vintage Transport Extravaganza on 
> August 3rd. For details phone 630-834-6133.
>
> For other information, including charters and group rates, 
> call the museum office at 815-923-4391 or write:
>
> Illinois Railway Museum
> P.O. Box 427
> Union, IL 60180

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@dlogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:43:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: senko@reston.ans.net (Andrew A. Senko)
Subject: Re: Ohio Construction

Doug Kitchener wrote:

> More on the Ohio road destruction-
>  
> Found a toll-free number, 1/88-TURNPIKE (1-888/876-7453) for the Ohio Turnpike, 
> and a website at www.ohioturnpike.org


I looked at the Ohio Turnpike website and it had a link to the Pennsylvania
Turnpike, "the Nation's First Superhighway", website

http://www.paturnpike.com/

They have content like Ohio's, about construction, history, etc.  Even an
article about Burma Shave signs.

I think these are really useful web sites for easterners heading to
Lansing.
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:10:56 -0500
From: "John M. Loban" <cyberpsych@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: 64 Starfire convertible

Any one looking for a 64 Starfire convt. parts car?  I just got a call
from a guy two mile away asking me if I new anybody  needing a parts
car.  The car has been in a garage for years.  It runs but has frame
rust under the drivers door.  The bumpers are in excellent shape no rust
and the front grille etc.  is all straight and in excellent shape. Body
has typical rust but everything is there.  He wants $500.00 for the
whole car.  Might consider parting out also.  I told him I would try and
get rid of it for him.  Give me a call 612-221-0202   or E-mail.  Car is
in Minnesota.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:47:49 -0600 (MDT)
From: Scott R Clark <mickeyd@selway.umt.edu>
Subject: Re: How do you build a hot tank?

> Scott just wondering how are you neutralizing the lye on the parts?
> Sound like a great idea. I will probably make one for myself.  Thanks
> Terry

	Well, there are a couple ways-- One, you can take another
container full of water, and dip the parts in it, slosh them around etc.
and then dry them (this works best when the parts are small, and really
clean, like when they get cooked really good) or you can just take them to
the alley and hose them off really good.  This works pretty good to get
some of the residual chunks off the parts too.  Just be sure to dry
everything
quick, since the metal will be a clean bare surface and the water will
make it rust in a really big hurry.  Thats really about all thats needed
to neutralize it.  If you use the bucket method of rinsing them, it would
probibly be a good idea to change the water in it periodically since it
will get more and more basic as you rinse more parts, kind of defeating
the purpose :)  Anyway, hope this helps!
		
				Scott
			1960 Oldsmobile Rocket 98

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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 05:42:19 +0000
From: "LCPL JACKS AIMD/IMO3  X7402" <j3910@boxer.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: '62 F-85 Parts

> > I am in need of some help. I need some parts for a '62 Olds F-85. I
> > need the 2-brl carb rebuilt or a new direct replacement. If anyone
> > has the four barrel manifold and carb for the '62 F-85 that might be
> > an option. I am also gonna be puting an MSD coil and 6A has anybody
> > got some good word on that. I am asking for full cooperation
> > considering I am overseas right now and only have E-mail access and
> > mail.
> > 
> > thanx
> > 
> > Ben
> > '62 Olds F-85
> > '68 Olds 442
> 
> Ben,
> 
> I don't have a lead on the 2-barrel carb, but I have a 4-barrel
> manifold.  I used a Carter AFB on it for a while when I was fixing my
> turbo.  The AFB's are easily found & do perk up that 215.
> 
> Bill Culp
> Decatur, Alabama

Bill, 

How much would you like for that 4-barrel manifold, and what cfm carb 
did you use? I have figured some where about 390 cfm should be just 
right.

Ben
'62 Olds F-85
'68 Olds 442
(Persian Gulf)

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:56:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: Scott R Clark <mickeyd@selway.umt.edu>
Subject: Re: How do you build a hot tank?

> >As for a heat source, I'm looking at a couple
> >possibilites--there are heating elements that float that are designed to
> >keep livestock watering tanks from freezing in the winter, but I do'nt
> >know if they would get hot enough.  And, if they're aluminum they won't
> >work since the lye will dissolve them.  Something to think about anyway.  
> 
> How 'bout some electric hot water heater elements mounted in the lid?  Or
> since you said you fill it only 3/4 full, maybe you could mount a couple in
> a removable rack that hangs from the top of the drum and immerses the
> elements in the water.  You'd just have to make sure that you keep the
> electrical terminals *out* of the water or things will get a *lot* hotter
> than you want them. :)  I'm not sure what hot water heater elements are made
> of but I think they're copper.  Dunno what that would do in a lye solution.
> I think most big heaters use two elements, so you'd probably need two for
> your tank. 

	Good idea.  I've been thinking about a similar setup too, but I
keep forgetting to look for them when I'm at the hardware store.  There
are two holes in the lid (a "pour" hole, and a small "intake" hole to let
air into the drum as it's drained) and they look like they would work
great for running wires to the elements.  As far as putting copper into
the lye, the only thing I've seen it do is turn black, with a sort of
oxidized finish.  Since copper oxidizes green, I guess it's not that, but
maybe it's leaving some sort of deposit on it.  

> 
> You might think about putting the elements on a thermostat or timer if
> you're going to leave it unattended a long time.  (I don't know how long you
> need to keep parts in a hot tank to clean them completely.)  I'd kinda worry
> about getting things *too* hot and burning down the house or something if
> you leave it for more than an hour or so.  A fuse or circuit breaker in line
> with  the elements might not be a bad idea either.

	I've got an old time switch that I could run it through, and use
the garage circut breaker (the drum is actually out behind the gargage) if
I wanted to leave it by itself for any length of time.  I try to be around
for that sort of thing...just in case. :)


> 
> I've never tried it but it might be worth kicking the idea around and
> pricing some elements at the local hardware store.  

	Definetly.  All I need to do now is remember them when I'm at the
hardware store.
	
				Scott
			1960 Oldsmobile Rocket 98

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:00:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Does anyone know of a marshall or Chad Sageser

If anyone knows who marshall or Chad Sageser email us! We own their W-31!
Thank-you!

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