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oldsmobile-digest          Saturday, 31 May 1997       Volume 01 : Number 702

Re: To ponder...
[Fwd: Re: fuel guage problem]
Re: '65/Delta 88
Shields Up!  We Are Under Attack!! (Non Olds)
a big electrical problem for me
[Fwd: FW: 69 Convertible]
Re: Convertible parts
Re: Michael Brady
B.C. Olds Club Show
Looking for olds links
[none]
re: racial slurs
Re: Some Questions
Re: Saving Old Cars
rock-n-roll fantasy
ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)
Re: WTB: Olds Spindles/Wheels/Master Cylinder
Re: How do you build a hot tank?
Re: To ponder...
Chat room difficulties.
re: racial slurs
Re: Motor Mount question
Re: TESTING Do not READ
Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)
Re: Motor Mount question
Re: Holley carbs; Re: Everyone read!!
Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)
Re: Chat room difficulties.
Re: TESTING Do not READ
Re: Some Questions
ADMIN: from Marty (fwd)
ADMIN: another message from marty (fwd)
ADMIN: Oldsmobile Wins Another
ªoldsmobile
Re: Dual conversion exhaust:
Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)
Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)
Re: ADMIN: Oldsmobile Wins Another
Is it worth it?
Re: ADMIN: Oldsmobile Wins Another
Re: engine paint
Re: ** parts for sale**
Re: '65/Delta 88
Re: Salvage yard adventures
Re: Address for chat room needed
Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)
Get me off of this List!!!!!
Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)
Re: oldsmobile info
Mac. Fuel Pump
1961 98 Sport Sedan Parts Wanted
Remove Oldsmobile
Re: Convertible parts
Cruise after the SuperNats.....
Re: Your Opinion Please:
Re: Motor Mount question
Days of our Lives saga
Re: Cruise after the SuperNats.....

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From: slick442@webtv.net (slick442)
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:58:44 -0300
Subject: Re: To ponder...

I enjoyed the automobile humor!!  Thanks for making my day complete!!
*smile*

Rosemary
(Red) 1972 442

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From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:57:44 -0300
Subject: [Fwd: Re: fuel guage problem]

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I had exactly the same problem a few weeks ago when installing my ralley
pac in my 69 442.  I removed the circuit board, cleaned it up due do
corrosion and resoldered the loose pins......and it worked.  Lucky I
guess.

Wayne Schwartz

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At 12:11 AM 5/30/97 -0300, you wrote:
>i have a 71 cutlass convertible that has the factory idiot lights/fuel guage
>cluster.the guage is reading about a half tank over full(car only has about a
>quarter tank).i dissasembled the unit,tightened all connections.i noticed
>that if i unplugged the cluster,manually moved the needle down,when i plugged
>it back in,would again rise to the same area.i disconnected the sending unit
>in the trunk and it wasn't affected.
>any ideas/thoughts....any help would be greatly
>appreciated...thanks...djv442@aol.com
>

        Check the brown wire going to the top of the sending unit for a
short. This will make it read full or over full all the time. I've
experienced this one first hand, when I ran out of gas and had to push it 4
blocks.

Jim Chermack




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From: STARFIRE65@aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:10:27 -0300
Subject: Re: '65/Delta 88

I own 2 65 Starfires. Last year I sold my 65 Delta 88 .Many of the parts were
interchangable. I love going to car shows and being the only one with a
cherry 65 Starfire Red with a white interior. I have incountered some
interesting problems with my olds. One was I thought I needed to replace the
right front brakedrum. Tried turning it and the problem got worse. I found
out from an oldtimer that I needed to turn the drum with the wheel still
attached. It worked. Seems the hub seperates from the drum slightly when the
wheel is off. If turned it will go out of round.

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From: tchurchill@draper.com (Timothy A. Churchill)
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:11:34 -0300
Subject: Shields Up!  We Are Under Attack!! (Non Olds)

Some very strange things have been occuring over the past hour, and
I have a sneaking suspicion others are experiencing the same....

First, I received an e-mail from the MajorDomo, telling me that it
couldn't *ns*scr*b* me because it couldn't find my address
'tchurchill@draper.com'.  Especially odd because I didn't ask to be.
I continued to receive e-mail from the list, so I didn't worry *too* much,
other than to forward it to Greg.

Then, I see a reply to the fake Mondello post & racial slur thread,
from a non-existant draper address.  And this racial slur-laden post smacks
of those by the (supposedly banned) perpertrator of the originals.

Now, I see the Olds traffic has slowed to a standstill; so I'm worried
that this lunatic, with a little addressing knowledge, has decided to
take his warped sense of revenge on all the list memebers by *ns*scr*b*ng
them, one by one.  I *think* I survived because of the weird firebreak
address scheme we have in place here...

If anybody is out there, let me know.

And may any Olds he owns turn on him like Christine... :)



Tim Churchill
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'67 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible, a.k.a. 'Big Red'
'89 Cadillac Fleetwood, a.k.a. 'Der KinderWagen'
'91 Mazda Protege, a.k.a. 'The Next Car to be Replaced'

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From: "Joe \"Guiseppi\" Ferrero" <ferrero@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:14:19 -0300
Subject: a big electrical problem for me

I have a 1948 olds, and it is a 6 volt system.

when I turn on my headlights, the amp-meter drops below 0 (almost -30 on
the dash gauge) and the battery doesn't recharge by the car's electrical
system.
(I didn't realize this until one evening, when I turned the headlights on,
the car died)

The 6 volt battery is a new battery.

I ran jumper wires directly from the generator and the field (on the
generator) to the generator and field on the voltage regulator, and the
Battery on the voltage regulator to the positive battery terminal.  My
multi-meter read 7.3 volts but no amps.

CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME GET MY BATTERY TO CHARGE WHEN I DRIVE IT??  WHAT
DO I DO?

Thanks in advance.
- --Joe

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From: Wayne Schwartz <wschwart@iaw.on.ca>
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:10:53 -0300
Subject: [Fwd: FW: 69 Convertible]

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Richard

I too live in Southern Ontario and completed the restoration of a 69 442
soft top.  Maybe I can help out with advise in some way.  I also have
many real good contacts for new/used Olds parts in the Golden Horseshoe
area of Ontario.  I also have some parts I'll sell reasonably since I'm
going to Mustangs too.  Call me at wschwart@IAW.on.ca

Wayne Schwartz

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Help! I'm looking at buying a 69 Cutlass S convertible...

I've looked at it, and it looks in good shape...

Are there any special area I should look for for problems?
I'm not too fussy about the engine, it's the body and frame I'm worried
about.
..
Where on the car should I be looking?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Richard

P.S. If anyone in Southern Ontario has a 68-72 Cutlass for sale, cheap...
mail

me with details...


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I am currrently working on a 69 Cutlass S Convertible. I am just finishing
off a body rotisserie and am planning to remove the body from the frame in
the next couple of weeks. I have found on my car some of the places where
rust hides.
In between the body mount braces and the trunk floor - This may require more
than patches on the trunkfloor, it may need need rebuilding or replacement
of the body mount brace. This can get expensive. Get underneath and look at
the rear body mount braces.
Same as the body mount braces, there is potential for rust between the floor
pan brace and the floor pan. The only way to find this is to pull up the
carpet.
The front fenders are notorius for rust at the bottom due to plugged drain
holes, and the body metal behind the fender is also subject to the same
problems. Both of these areas are easy to fix.
 Trunk extensions are easily overlooked but are not a big deal to replace.
If the top leaks, and you have evidence of this in the carpet or door
panels, be concerned about the condition of the floor pans in the front. I
had just enough rust under my feet on  driver side that I bought half a
floor pan. $95 (Can$)
I have not got to my frame yet but it appears to be in good shape as the car
was throwing so much oil out the rear main seal it got a pretty good rust
proofing. Seems that the previous owner couldn,t bother to fix it, he just
kept pouring in more oil.
The front of the hood can be a great spot for water collection, and also
watch for rust and cracking or crushing over the hood stops. There's alot of
weight hanging out over the front resulting in a real stress point there.
One way to find out what cars are available in S Ont is to join the local
chapter of the Olds club, send me your Email address and I'll give you the
membership details. As I'm always looking for parts etc  if I come a cross
one of these cars, I'll email you direct. Its always nice to find another
Olds guy in Ontario. You can Email me direct at kerrb@basf-corp.com

Restoration of 69 Cutlass S convertible
Licence tag -    BKS  69




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From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:23:25 -0300
Subject: Re: Convertible parts

Dawn
  I have good used cylinders if that will help. You can call Fusick
Automotive in Ct at 860-623-1589  I'm sure he sells new ones.
  If a used one will do e-mail at ANTIQOLDS@AOL.COM

Everett

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From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:23:40 -0300
Subject: Re: Michael Brady

Hi Mike & Cliff
  I'm an early 60's fullsize fan also. I drive a 61 Starfire for my pleasure.
It's a 48,000 mi original, still has the original top. These cars have so
much class. Lets keep on promoting these great cars.

Everett Horton   OCA  NAOCA  GMO Chapter  Starfire Chapter  AACA

OCA ª 1961    1961 Starfire

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From: <Sherry_Soball@Douglas.BC.CA>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:32:29 -0300
Subject: B.C. Olds Club Show

Hello all!

I thought I'd take this opportunity to plug our upcoming all Olds show.  The
British Columbia Oldsmobile Club is hosting its 8th annual show 'n' shine on
Father's Day, Sunday, June 15th.  The show is held from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00
p.m. at WAterfront Park in North Vancouver on Esplanade Street, 2 blocks
west of the foot of Lonsdale Avenue.

The registration fee is a mere $10.00 Can ($5.00 for 2nd vehicle) and is
open to Oldsmobiles only.

Also, on September 19-21, the Pacific Northwest Oldsmobile Clubs (Nothern
Lights and Puget Soulnd Chapter of OCA and the B.C. Olds Club are hosting an
Oldsmobile weekend getaway on Vancouver Island in Parksville, B. C.  This
event is only open to members of the three hostin clubs or OCA members.

If anyone is interested in attending either event, contact me directly by
email for further information.

Sherry Soball
B. C. Olds Club
email:  soballs@douglas.bc.ca
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From: jim401@blbtys
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:44:20 -0300
Subject: Looking for olds links

I'm looking for any links on olds other than Brycemans page.
preferably older models.

Jim Masters

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From: "Stubblefield, Lyndall (lstu)" <lstu@chevron.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:39:33 -0300
Subject: [none]

unsubscribe oldsmobile

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From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:55:42 -0300
Subject: re: racial slurs

>if something offends you on your computer, turn it off!  or tell your mommy.
>Maybe someone needs to remove you from the list?  If you can't take it
>leave!  and telling someone that they have no right to be on thee list,
>What is this your list?  Its a public forum.  And we (being citizens of the
united
>states) have the right to express our feelings, right or wrong.

What get's me is that this guy is to dense to realize that this *is* Greg's
list, and not a public forum.  I hope we can find out who this jerk is and
get his ISP provider to drop him.  If he's at a work computer we could also
tell his boss how productive he is when he's harassing people and generally
making an ass of himself.  I get the feeling he's a kid though 'cause he has
the mentality of a 13 year old.

Greg Pruett
`72 Vista-Cruiser
`67 Cutlass Supreme

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From: grpruett@vt.edu (Greg Pruett )
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:56:07 -0300
Subject: Re: Some Questions

>Greg,
>
>Have you considered a GM TBI unit.  I know it doesn't offer nearly the
>potenial of the TBI but I would think it would be an easier swap.

It would probably rival what I'm trying to do in terms of perfomance and
economy.  Since it is computer controlled, it would definitly be more
efficient than a 4-bbl.  And since the caddy manifold is pretty
conventional, (I don't think it has tuned runners) it probably wouldn't flow
any better than a TBI unit with a good 4bbl manifold.

The port injection is just a pet project of mine and I want to see if I can
make it work.  That's the main reason I want to do it.  Well, that and it'll
look cool. :)

>  Check out
>Turbo City's web site (turbocity.com I believe) they offer lots of part and
>swaps for GM TBI units

Thanks, I'll have a look to see what they offer.

>Also you should be aware that you will probably need a different camshaft.
> I'm no expert on this but I have been told you need a cam with a wider lobe
>seperation(?) to work with the computer.

Yep.  The TPI c*maro camshaft is a little more conservative than what I'm
running now.  My cam is .456 lift and 218 duration@.050 lift, with 110
degrees lobe seperation.  The TPI c*m*ro is .273lift, I'm not sure what the
duration and lobe separation is.  I would guess that the ECU in your friends
truck thought that the mass airflow sensor was reading too much air intake
for the RPM it was turning, so it decided the sensor was broken.  Then the
car was stuck in limp-home mode.  When your friend changed to the
less-agressive cam the readings were more like what the ECU was used to.
Another possibility is that the ECU thought the engine was runnign too rich,
so it leaned out the mixture.  I think I can get around that though with a
few mods.  I guess we'll see.

Thanks for the info.

Greg Pruett
`72 Vista-Cruiser
`67 Cutlass Supreme

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From: "Andrew C. Green" <acg@dlogics.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:49:44 -0300
Subject: Re: Saving Old Cars

>That's it. As I understand it, the oil company pays these people a certain
>set amount ($700 is the figure I recall) for their car; if you want to buy
>it, you'll pay at least that figure. I don't know that there's really a car
>on that list that I couldn't find elsewhere for $700.

Curiously, it says the program is intended for pre-1982 cars (which is more
or less the transition year when computerized emission controls were coming
into widespread use), yet there are quite a few post-'82 cars listed.

All that aside, there is some interesting stuff between the lines. Quoting
from their listing of the rule behind it all, at

http://www.eco-scrap.com/rule.htm

> Rule 2202 provides additional flexibility to meet air quality standards in
> the South Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD). The objective of
> this rule is to reduce motor vehicle VOC, NOx, CO and PM exhaust emissions
> by issuing mobile source emission reduction credits (MSERCs) in exchange
> for the scrapping of old, high emitting vehicles.

Basically, rather than clean up the industrial pollution, businesses can buy
"credit" by scrapping cars instead of cleaning up their own output:

> If, like most companies, you are below your AVR target, Alternatives to
> Rideshare will yield great environmental benefits. SCAQMD says, "This rule
> is intended to reduce compliance costs for participating facilities."

I find it hard to believe that pollution is really being reduced here. You
have to ensure that the cars you're buying are daily drivers that actually
contribute to the pollution, for starters. If they are, what's the owner
going to do with a measly $700? Buy another beater and keep going, of course.

And just for yucks, check out some of these other listings, exactly as they
appear on the web page. Whoever's running this does not appear to be very
automotive-literate:

   1976            CHEROLET             CAPRI CLASSIC     1N39V6S172***

   1978            PLYMOUTH               HERIZION        ML44A8D117***

   1979             HONDA                  ACCORD         SMH1121***

   1976            MERCURY              GRAND MARQUIZ     6Z64A571***

   1980             TOYOTA                 CARROLA        TE725029***

   1976            CHRYSLER                CORDOVA        SS22J6R298***

   1976           CHEVROLET                ALMANZA        IM2B6C131***

   1982            MERCURY              GRAND MARKEY      1MEBP85F7CZ657***

   1978            PONTIAC                GRANDPRE        2H37U8P501***

   1978           CADILLICA                SEVIELL        6S9B8K467***

   1976              FORD                  MEVRICK        6K91L189***

   1979            MERCURY                 ZAPHER         9E35T610***

   1981              FORD                  FERMONT        1FABP21B9DK127***

   1978             BUICK                   REGEL         4G47A8Z157***

   1976             MECURY                 MONARC         6W37H540***

   1980              FORD                  MESTANG        0R04B121***

   1979             CHEVY                  COMERO         1Q87G9L611***

   1979           CHEVROLET                 LOVE          CLN1498213***

   1977            PONTIAC                 GRADPRE        2K57R7P140***


Sigh. I suppose our taxes are tied up in this somehow...

Andrew C. Green                   (312) 853-8331
Datalogics, Inc.
101 N. Wacker Drive, Ste. 1800    Internet: acg@dlogics.com
Chicago, IL  60606-7301           FAX: (312) 853-8282

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From: "citizen X" <lubepros@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:57:00 -0300
Subject: rock-n-roll fantasy

I want to make love with Jimmy page and Robert Plant
at the same time in my backyard!
Whats your rock-n-roll fantasy???
Email me
               Heather Briggs
                Moab Utah


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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:03:57 -0300
Subject: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)

As administrator of this list, I need to ask members for their indulgence
in a moment of crisis:

Folks, as noted by Tim Churchill earlier, our friend Marty from yesterday
is acting up again. He has been attempting to uns*bscribe some of us,
including me, but unsuccessfully. He has also been sending posts with
bogus return addresses to the list. What he fails to realize is that his
site is listed in the headers of the bogus messages, as Charlie B.
pointed out last night.

I would never ask any of you to mailbomb hanthorn@inwave.com .... that
wouldn't be prudent. ;-) However, I am preparing a message to go to the
postmaster at that site, which will see the account terminated. Our friend
Marty also has a web page and mail address at geocities:
nova442@geocities.com which I think will also be history when I am done
with this.

Any advice, help or assistance in dealing with this idiot would be
appreciated. And no, I'm not parting out anything -- except Marty's
accounts, which should be dismantled when we're done with him. Thanks for
putting up with this foolishness to date.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: Dan Lacey <lacey@dsea.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:07:29 -0300
Subject: Re: WTB: Olds Spindles/Wheels/Master Cylinder

>Hey Dan,
>Didja find a source for _unused_ 70 big olds disk brake rotors? This has
>been driving me nuts.
>
>
>Vat's da secret?
>
>
>thanks
>cf


Martin Bros.  (714) 857-0158 FAX (714) 857-0123
14120 Culver DR ªE
Irvine CA 92604

$45 11.5" Rotor NEW (no bearing etc.)

These should not be difficult to find since they told me that they fit "a
whole bunch of cars". This is not a specialty store, but is a private parts
outlet (i.e. not PepBoys, NAPA, etc). If you want them, they'll ship 'em.

As I stated somewhere in my ramblings, these guys claim to be able to get
an OEM part for any part of the brake system (EXCEPT SPINDLES!!!!).
I have been procrastinating big time on those because I don't want to buy
spindles sight-unseen...


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* THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY  *       Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )        *
*                           *       Dainippon Screen Eng. of America    *
* LEFT BLANK                *       3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.             *
*                           *       Santa Ana, CA. 92704                *
*************************************************************************

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From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:11:09 -0300
Subject: Re: How do you build a hot tank?

At 09:40 PM 5/28/97 -0300, you wrote:
>How do you build a hot tank???

Hmm.  I suppose you start out at a military surplus site.  How much work
would it be to stuff a couple blown 455's in a tank?  Would it be legal to
keep the guns attached?  Hmm.  This could be interesting...

Oh!  You mean a heated tank for cleaning big iron parts.  Oh, s**t.  Here
you had me excited ;)



             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:19:09 -0300
Subject: Re: To ponder...

>Did they have us in Mind when they named these things?
>P. O. N. T. I. A. C.  =  Putting Oldsmobiles Near Top In All Catagories
>C. H. E. V. R. O. L. E. T. =  Cutlass Has Every Victory Regardless Of Leads
>Ever Taken
>F. O. R. D.  =  Forever Oldsmobile, Reigning Dictator
>D. O. D. G. E. =  Discrediting Oldsmobiles Doesn't Gain Equality
>Just a little Friday Afternoon humor....


Mmmmm.  I like!  Thanks!



             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

From: KarlAunan@aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:23:09 -0300
Subject: Chat room difficulties.

Yes I believe someone else complained about a Netscape failure.

The only problem that I had was when I was using the old AOL browser. I saw a
message that said I could not access the chat room because the browser  could
not read JAVA. This is corrected for with the AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 which
includes compatability with Microsoft's Internet Explorer and reads 32 (?)
bit grahic, etc. If Net Nav is not capable of reading Java, that might be the
problem (there must be an upgrade available by now.

Karl Aune

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From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:31:28 -0300
Subject: re: racial slurs

>if something offends you on your computer, turn it off!  or tell your mommy.

Snipping of Dave's politically incorrect, and possibly offensive (to some)
posting...

I agree in part with a lot of these comments, I think these names are all
in how they're interpreted.  However the need for interpretation would be
gone if the slurs were completely left out.  On this list, there is no such
thing as a spic, cracker, nigger, kike, etc.  We are all numbers, and
little more.  Every one of us is black (printed on a white background)
unless using Telnet to read my mail.  In that case, you're all yellow, up
against a black background.  I think it's really neat to have members here
from all across the world meeting and discussing items of similar interest
(namely Olds)  To try and suggest that some of you (or us) are better than
others due to ethnic background is nonsense, plain and simple.  Prejudice?
Damn straight I am.  I think ~anyone~ who enjoys an Oldsmobile is miles
above anyone who doesn't.  Many of the impressions of ethnic backgrounds is
derived from local positions they are subjected to, and has nothing to do
with skin color.  And certainly has nothing to do with Oldsmobile.

Anyway, enough of that.  I'll leave any more on the subject for Greg.

Hmm.  Now where is this soap box supposed to go?



             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

From: "Suzanne Rousseau" <ewok@clarkston.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:36:29 -0300
Subject: Re: Motor Mount question

- ----------
> From: Kerr, Brian (R) <Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com>
> To: 'Olds List' <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Motor Mount question
> Date: Thursday, May 29, 1997 10:29 PM
>
>
>      I purchased a 69 cutlass convertible that had the 350 replaced by a
455
> from a 71 442 (also has C heads and headers) The motor mounts were shot,
so
> I ordered new ones. The distributor ordered them from Year One and they
> arrived  as part ª 508N  Does anyone know if these are the right mounts
for
> the combination that I have? I am also having a hard time getting the
> distributor out. Is there some trick to it or is it just plain stuck?
>
> Brian Kerr
> 69 Cutlass Conv

On my 455, the old oil pump driveshaft began to round-off, and became
wedged in the socket in the distributor - making it hard to remove. It
might be hard to get into a good position to pull hard on the distributor
if the hood is on the car.  [...thinking of the F*rds and M*p*rs with front
mounted distributors...but no way, not worth all the other troubles  :)   ]

Paul Rousseau

------------------------------

From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:35:17 -0300
Subject: Re: TESTING Do not READ

> Robert Knowles wrote:
> >
> > testetstetstetstetstetstetstetest
>
> ...and you would be testing your spell-checker?
>
>     66 Toro
> The /\   /\ and Mike

He *said* not to read it!

8)
peg

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From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:40:03 -0300
Subject: Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)

> Any advice, help or assistance in dealing with this idiot would be
> appreciated. And no, I'm not parting out anything -- except Marty's
> accounts, which should be dismantled when we're done with him. Thanks for
> putting up with this foolishness to date.

Olds Federation ready to accept mission, fearless leader.  Say the word
and it shall be done.  *Nobody* messes with Rocketeers -- especially
Rocketeer listies!!
Let us know how we can help, other than the fact that we'd *never* do
something imprudent like mailbombing..... ;)

8)
peg

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From: "Suzanne Rousseau" <ewok@clarkston.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:46:13 -0300
Subject: Re: Motor Mount question

> One of two things will happen: either the oil pump drive rod will loosen
up,
> and you'll be able to pull out the distributor alone, or (more likely),
the
> washer retaining the oil pump drive rod will come loose or break, and
settle
> in the bottom of your oil pan. If the second happens, don't worry, the
> washer will just sit there, perhaps adding to the stuff already clogging
> your oil pump screen, but not enough to hurt anything, and you can just
drop
> the driveshaft back into the block (the rod will stay in place fine
without
> the washer).

Too bad this post didn't come around about a year ago.....

I had the same problem and dropped those washers into my oil pan.  I had
the entire engine compartment assembled, but decided it was necessary to
remove the engine to retreive the parts from the pan.  Ack!!  Took about a
week to remove/replace everything.

I guess that's what it takes to learn....

Paul Rousseau
*1967 442

------------------------------

From: Richard Staley <rstaley@FastLane.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:40:34 -0300
Subject: Re: Holley carbs; Re: Everyone read!!

Dan Lacey wrote:
>
> >Well let me change my posture a bit, I was a little frustrated when I
> >made that post. Edelbrocks are extremely adjustable and Edelbrock
> >furnishes all the parts you need to adjust it. I personally do not know
> >how to tune one real well (so learning what to do applies to me too
> >:))and I do a Holley. For me, I could never get the Edelbrock to perform
> >like my Holley. the Edelbrock just never seem to provide enough gas.
> >>From what I did see on tuning the Edelbrock, it looked like it would
> >take a lot of BS to get it whipped into shape, when I have almost
> >everything I need to tune my Holley up in a Trick Kit and can have it
> >done in 15 minutes. I also know how to make a Quadrajet run real well
> >also, but compared to Holley, it takes ALOT of work. I think the point I
> >was trying to make was that the guy was bashing Holley's out of
> >ignorance. Then again, carb selection is a lot like cam selection,
> >everyone's got their favorite and they will force it down your throat
> >till the second coming.
>
> Well, that is exactly what is happening to me! One of the guys I work with
> put an Edelbrock 650 on his ZZ3 (350 cu.in.). He spent alot of time tuning
> in this carb. I mean he "tuned" it in tho. He has O2 sensors just behind
> the manifolds (installed with the new exhaust). He plotted the carb
> response curves for all the control settings and then picked his parts from
> the Edelbrock tuning kit.
>
> He also doesn't put up with minor problems like slight hesitation at any
> point. He has buried the speedo with no problem. This is a serious machine!
> It is being prepped for the Silver State Challenge.
>
> Anyway, now that he has gone to the trouble of understanding how Edelbrock
> carbs work, I'm kinda stuck with a local expert!
>
> I have to get rid of the Rochester that I have. It was rebuilt by the Carb
> Shop, and still doesn't run great. Hesitation from a stand-still (which
> could be the old distrib.). I have what I think is a lean surge just before
> the secondaries kick in. This car gets terrible gas mileage!
>
> Gotta do something this year. I will probably put a new intake manifold on
> with the carb., and Edelbrock has those too...
>
> How big a carb does a 425 need???
>
> *************************************************************************
> * THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY  *       Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )        *
> *                           *       Dainippon Screen Eng. of America    *
> * LEFT BLANK                *       3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.             *
> *                           *       Santa Ana, CA. 92704                *
> *************************************************************************
Was it the Carburetor Works in New York?

  RS
'70 442 4-speed W-25

------------------------------

From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:48:02 -0300
Subject: Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)

At 07:03 PM 5/30/97 -0300, you wrote:
>
>As administrator of this list, I need to ask members for their indulgence
>in a moment of crisis:
>
>Any advice, help or assistance in dealing with this idiot would be
>appreciated. And no, I'm not parting out anything -- except Marty's
>accounts, which should be dismantled when we're done with him. Thanks for
>putting up with this foolishness to date.
>

Yes, I agree.  Maybe the FCC would have something to say about the
situation?  I'd assume that using other's names electonically (and
tracably) would constitute some sort of fraud.  Would criminal charges be
in order?  ~Could~ criminal charges be in order???  :)  I see he's using a
hotmail address now, too.  Perhaps hotmail.com should be notified as well.
I say nuke the guy.  This is entirely too much.  Hmm.  If ~supposedly~ only
a handful of people have access to the server he uses, then perhaps only a
handful would be affected if something, uh, bad were to happen to it?
Anyone good with viruses?  Ooh, now I'm starting to sound evil.  Not good.
I don't think we want him catching the Toro virus, then we'd hear even more
from him.  Hmm.  From his homepage, we could likely determine some of their
customers, and alert ~them~ to the actions involving the company they're
supporting.  I think there are several types of toast available for this
situation.  I kinda like grape, but in this case, I'd settle for anything
that's burnt to a crisp...  :)



             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:04:45 -0300
Subject: Re: Chat room difficulties.

At 07:23 PM 5/30/97 -0300, you wrote:
>Yes I believe someone else complained about a Netscape failure.


I've had Netscape Communicator 4.0 (Beta4) crash dozens of times on me now.
 It usually leaves a message on Trumpet about failing to call WSACleanup,
or something like that.  Sometimes when I close Netscape, it won't leave
the system (control-alt-delete shows the program as still running, even
though it's gone)  I think it's just a beta problem for me.  I have no idea
(computer literacy problem) about what a core dump is.  I don't know if
that's what's happening to me or not.  It worked fine for me for quite a
while when no one else was on the channel.  Last night when there were six
or seven, I crashed out at least six times.  The last time it was fatal.  I
had to reboot the computer, and I couldn't get back onto the server after
that.  I ~know~ no one else was online.  It just has problems.  I'll be
~soooo~ happy when I get to my ~new~ home.  24-33.6 dialups.  Sure beats
our ~one~ 28.8, three 14.4's, and one 9600!!!


             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

From: Charley Buehner <buehner@cis.nmclites.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:58:49 -0300
Subject: Re: TESTING Do not READ

At 07:35 PM 5/30/97 -0300, you wrote:
>> Robert Knowles wrote:
>> >
>> > testetstetstetstetstetstetstetest
>>
>> ...and you would be testing your spell-checker?
>>
>>     66 Toro
>> The /\   /\ and Mike
>
>He *said* not to read it!


Hmm.  I see ~you~ read it too, eh Peg???  :)

God, can't ~any~ of us follow directions anymore?  Hmph!   ;)



             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@cis.nmclites.edu
             500 4th Ave.          | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Box 1255              | Montana State University-Northern
             Havre, Montana 59501  | http://cis.nmclites.edu/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass ~Dead 425~
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "FAST FWD" (Soon)   | '67 Toronado 425
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

From: Chris Fair <ChrisFair@fairisaac.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:29:15 -0300
Subject: Re: Some Questions

Greg,
For the benefit of the rest of us who've kicked this around, how much do you
figger on spending and is the Holley package (to be EO'd on Ca. any day
now...) a good alternative?

Would love to digitally FI my 66 455 (rebuilt, bigger o.k.?), but have the
general impression that this is a $2,000 affair by the time you're done
getting multiport injectors, CPU, thermo,O2, MAP, MAF sensors, fuelpump,
return line, etc., etc.

Can you give me any good news? Other than the injector spary duration and
mapping the physical procedures for converting your 350 shouldn't be too
different from my 455.

Care to shed some light?
cf

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:49:59 -0300
Subject: ADMIN: from Marty (fwd)

First there was this, in repsonse to my message to his ISP...

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:58:06 -0300
From: Hanthorn <hanthorn@inwave.com>
To: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: from Marty

Hey I said I was sorry for using vulgar language! Now this shit with me
supposedly hacking mail...? I do not Know what the hell you are talking
about. I was cut off from the list and I asked why.  Simple answer you
gave me, I realized what I did and left it as that. This stuff now being
sent to my home computer is bogus. The computer at work is also ran
through inwave, and my "friends" at work also can log on in my name (I
do it to check my mail) I am a body man, I Prep material to be painted.
I have friends that are in college for marketing, computer programming
and whatever. I also recive email from Bill Clinton and Bob Hope telling
me I won the lottery or that I'm selected for a govt. test project.  Ya
I realize who does it, And I know who did this. I am sure I will here
about it tonight when we go out. As of contacting my internet service,
what ever you deem necessary.  I'm going through the same shit you are.
I don't know what they sent but I'm sure I will find out.
My letter last night was honest and sincere.
Please forward this to the list.
Marty

------------------------------

From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:50:57 -0300
Subject: ADMIN: another message from marty (fwd)

... Then there was this after his ISP contacted him....

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:17:40 -0300
From: Hanthorn <hanthorn@inwave.com>
To: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: another message from marty

I just recieved a call from Inwave and they told me messages were sent
from Hotmail.  My younger brother has an account there as digger?? And
seeing that this may have something to do with it. we were given two
options 1. cut off or 2. knock it off She explained to me that mail was
being sent from here and hotmail. I will talk (beat) to him and settle
this.  I am very sorry for the trouble that has been caused. I GARANTEE
this will not happen again. And I can no longer blame my friends at
work, because you were right, they were sent from here.
Marty

------------------------------

From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:58:49 -0300
Subject: ADMIN: Oldsmobile Wins Another

I've received 2 follow-ups from our friend's ISP admin staff in response
to my reporting of the actions here today. He has been placed on the
shortest of leashes -- and apparently the only reason he hasn't been
terminated is that there is some question as to whether the messages came
directly from him or from a hotmail account used by his brother but
accessed via his account. One more whisper of a problem and the plug is
pulled. This time, I hope it is fixed for good.

In reading his messages, I get the impression he is telling the truth and
regrets what happened in his name. It may not have been done by him
directly but instead by someone with access to his PC. Hopefully it will
teach the value of controlling one's logon ID and password.

Thanks for putting up with all of this nonsense.

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

From: "Suzanne Rousseau" <ewok@clarkston.com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 22:21:03 -0300
Subject: ªoldsmobile

Hey oldsmobilers:

I wasn't able to make the scheduled session yesterday cuz I was working,
but how about one tonight?  If not, no problem....

Paul Rousseau
*1967 442

------------------------------

From: Robert Barry <RBarry@sequent1.providence.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:29:25 -0300
Subject: Re: Dual conversion exhaust:

At 09:06 PM 5/28/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Check your crossmember, it may already be a "dual hump" crossmember.
>Some single exhaust cars had them; my Olds does.

This only applies to pre-'75 cars; 1975 and after, a catalytic converter was
mandatory, and all cars had a single exhaust, yes, even the ones with "dual
outlets". In order to save money, only one crossmember, designed for a
single exhaust, was used.

OTOH, an earlier crossmember can be adapted to be used in a later chassis.
_______________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:42:32 -0300
Subject: Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)

BTW, I have some nice GIFs of SPAM if anyone would like copies.   ;)

    66 Toro
The /\   /\ and Mike


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

------------------------------

From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:40:12 -0300
Subject: Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
>
> I would never ask any of you to mailbomb hanthorn@inwave.com .... that
> wouldn't be prudent. ;-)

However, just in case: http://www.junk.com/anonmail.html

    66 Toro
The /\   /\ and Mike


- --
Michael R. Frederick, CEO           Edison3, Incorporated
     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

------------------------------

From: Lloyd Culp <bculp@hiwaay.net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:41:52 -0300
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Oldsmobile Wins Another

Greg Beaulieu wrote:
>
> I've received 2 follow-ups from our friend's ISP admin staff in response
> to my reporting of the actions here today. He has been placed on the
> shortest of leashes -- and apparently the only reason he hasn't been
> terminated is that there is some question as to whether the messages came
> directly from him or from a hotmail account used by his brother but
> accessed via his account. One more whisper of a problem and the plug is
> pulled. This time, I hope it is fixed for good.
>
> In reading his messages, I get the impression he is telling the truth and
> regrets what happened in his name. It may not have been done by him
> directly but instead by someone with access to his PC. Hopefully it will
> teach the value of controlling one's logon ID and password.
>
> Thanks for putting up with all of this nonsense.
>
> Greg Beaulieu

Greg,

Please don't tell me that this is over.  I was just getting to enjoying
the evening.  Nobody wants me to have any fun.  Darn!

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama

P.S. I suppose that I should thank you anyway.

------------------------------

From: Daren@qconline.com
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:57:48 -0300
Subject: Is it worth it?

I personally would keep it. If you have insurance on it I would think
you should get at least $3-4k for the settlement and hopefully they wont
want a lot for you to keep it (if they total it). In the long run you
will be happy you kept it even though it wont be the same ªs matching
car. To return it to original (looking) or into a fire breather is a
question you need to ask yourself. What do you want? I have a th350
tranny out of a '72 442 it needs rebuilt and possible some big block
parts you can have if you choose to go that route. If I remember right
you said you live in Las Vegas area which wouldn't probable be worth
paying the shipping charges to go that far, but if your driving to
Lansing in August Iowa would be on the way or I could take them to
Lansing.

Daren

O.C.A. ª23571
daren@qconline.com

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From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 23:34:03 -0300
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Oldsmobile Wins Another

On Fri, 30 May 1997, Lloyd Culp wrote:
> Greg,
>
> Please don't tell me that this is over.  I was just getting to enjoying
> the evening.  Nobody wants me to have any fun.  Darn!
>
> Bill Culp
> Decatur, Alabama
>
> P.S. I suppose that I should thank you anyway.

Bill, I suppose if things are *really* slow in Decatur tonight, I could
forward some of the dozens of biunced messages I got from undeliverable
accounts... ;-)

You're welcome... :)

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

------------------------------

From: James244@aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:01:35 -0300
Subject: Re: engine paint

1st of all, the correct engine color for a 69 442 400 CID is bronze (which
you can get from Year One or any of the other suppliers). The correct color
for a 350 is gold, and for the 68-69 H/O (455) the correct color is red. I
hope this helps with your decision.

James
86 442
69 442

------------------------------

From: James244@aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:02:22 -0300
Subject: Re: ** parts for sale**

LOL     LOL     LOL LOL...........ROFLMAO..........

------------------------------

From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:28:01 -0300
Subject: Re: '65/Delta 88

Jusuf R. Odang wrote:
>
> I have been on the list exactly for 10 days now and I read ( literally )
> every words on all incoming mails but how come I have never encountered/read
> any info on '65/Delta 88 at all ???
> Is there anybody out there who has '65/Delta88 and who kind enough willing
> to share any info on '65/D88 with me ??????
> Very much appreciated.

Jusuf

The full size Oldses have a very loyal, but rather small following.  I
have a '67 Ninety Eight, which is similar to your Delta 88.  I would be
glad to share with you what I know, which may not be a whole lot, but I
don't know what you are looking for.

I'm here if you need me.

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:53:28 -0300
Subject: Re: Salvage yard adventures

DATIC@aol.com wrote:
> they just got
> in a 66 Starfire, mostly complete except for a crunched rear corner.

Do you remember if this was a bucket seat car or a bench seat car?

Paul


- --
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:36:35 -0300
Subject: Re: Address for chat room needed

mrada wrote:

> Why can't I get this html file to work for me?  I keep getting
> core dumps out of Netscape.
>
> Chris Sparks

Chris

I'm using Netscape and not having trouble.  Maybe it has something to do
with your server?  I did get a Java error message last night.  But it
worked just fine a few minutes ago.

Paul

- --
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 23:34:50 -0300
Subject: Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)

> > I would never ask any of you to mailbomb hanthorn@inwave.com .... that
> > wouldn't be prudent. ;-)
>
> However, just in case: http://www.junk.com/anonmail.html

Whoops . . . . I forgot the anonymous part when I sent all my messages to
him.  :)

8)
peg

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From: Karl <kdavlin@bigfoot.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:09:42 -0300
Subject: Get me off of this List!!!!!

I've been trying to get off of this list for weeks now!!!!!

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From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 23:35:06 -0300
Subject: Re: ALERT!!!: Let's Make Toast... ;-)

> > I would never ask any of you to mailbomb hanthorn@inwave.com ....
that
> > wouldn't be prudent. ;-)
>
> However, just in case: http://www.junk.com/anonmail.html

Whoops . . . . I forgot the anonymous part when I sent all my messages to
him.  :)

8)
peg

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From: Patrick Derkacz <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:14:25 -0300
Subject: Re: oldsmobile info

Paul Hoppel wrote:
>
> i have a 1969 olds 442 and i am putting finishing touches on the engine.
> could you tell me what color gold the engine is and were i could get the
> paint. my car is a1969 442 convertible. thank you for you
> help                                         Paul Hoppel  Amherst NY

Go to your local auto paint supply store and order:
 DAR 2657 SC
 Andes Copper Poly

If you order a pint (About $30) you can get about 2 spray cans and a
little left over.  The store can put it in a spray can for you

Patrickd@wwnet.com
1969 442 Convertible

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From: "Luke Hogan" <hogan442@c-gate.net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 14:30:59 -0300
Subject: Mac. Fuel Pump

  Hi guys,          This is to update you guys on what kind-of
luck i've been having with the Olds. For starters i had a noise that
sounded like a bad lifter or a worn rocker arm strap or a bad valve seat .
Well none of this was the problem, i did go ahead & pull the motor to fix
all the problems that i came across such as the cam walking back & forth &
the oil pump pick-up sceen coved with gasket material & adhesive plus one
end of the cottor pin that holds the oil press. spring in the pump. After
all this work & future prevention measures i still have this noise that
i'am begining to think is coming from the fuel pump.            Has anybody
had a fuel pump make a noise like this before? If so what to do to stop the
problem, short of buying a new one? Thank for your time & h*lp. Luke

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From: "bill " <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:36:18 -0300
Subject: 1961 98 Sport Sedan Parts Wanted

For my 1961 98 Sport Sedan (4 door hardtop)

1.  I am looking for a battery hold down
2.  Does anyone know where I can get the rubber moldings and gaskets for
around the windows, etc.  The Sport Sedan is slightly different from the
normal 4 door hardtop.  Mike Fusick and some of the other vendors I have
contacted do not have it.  There is one hope if Buick or Pontiac made an
equivalent and someon has the part number so I could possible cross it
over.

lewman@mindpulse.com

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From: Richard <raf@cmpu.net>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:39:21 -0300
Subject: Remove Oldsmobile

Remove Oldsmobile

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From: Patrick Derkacz <patrickd@wwnet.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:42:06 -0300
Subject: Re: Convertible parts

Dawn Roode wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me where to get just a cylinder for the convertible of
> my 68 Cutlass?  Everywhere I look for new parts you need to buy the
> whole kit (cylinders and lines), and I've had no luck at the junkyards
> -- plus, would rather have new, anyway.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated (especially now that "top down"
> weather is finally here on the east coast...!)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Dawn
> dawnr@curtco.com
> 68 Cutlass convertible

I have an extra one from a '69 cutlass which i would be willing to sell
if your inerested.

Patrickd@wwnet.com
1969 442 convertible

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From: ar713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zuccaro)
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:36:30 -0300
Subject: Cruise after the SuperNats.....

Jason - don't go to the fairgrounds - go to 224
in Boardman for the cruise!  They are cruising til
2 am or so.  Olds was well represented - probably
about 15-20 Cutlass/442/Hurst Olds there.  Literally
thousands of people all over - kinda like a circus!

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From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 02:01:40 -0300
Subject: Re: Your Opinion Please:

At 10:42 AM 5/30/97 -0300, you wrote:
> Jim
>
>          Go to a manual steering box. If you use the old power steering box
> you'll have a hard time turning it at slow speeds. The manual box is lighter
> than the other too. So you have two benifits. Weight and loss of static drag
> on the engine.
>
> Jim Chermack

Yea, Thats What I Thought To..

What Make - Model Will Work With The Original Steering Set-up
Changing All The Steering Is Not Exactly What I Was Thinkg Of...

Thanks

Jim

        Any A-body GM will do. Look for a 68-72 to snatch one from. Older
ones work but you'll crank forever to turn it. The only thing you have to
change is the box and the Pitman Arm. Make sure you get that with your
steering box.

Jim

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From: James & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 02:01:41 -0300
Subject: Re: Motor Mount question

At 02:29 AM 5/30/97 -0300, you wrote:
>
>     I purchased a 69 cutlass convertible that had the 350 replaced by a 455
>from a 71 442 (also has C heads and headers) The motor mounts were shot, so
>I ordered new ones. The distributor ordered them from Year One and they
>arrived  as part ª 508N  Does anyone know if these are the right mounts for
>the combination that I have? I am also having a hard time getting the
>distributor out. Is there some trick to it or is it just plain stuck?
>
>Brian Kerr
>69 Cutlass Conv
>
Brian

        NO! These are the ones that require the big block frame mounts. If
you want to use your existing frame mounts you need the 350 engine mounts
partª NG109. If you want to pursue the big block frame mounts then keep the
ones you have.

Jim  Chermack

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From: "Frank" <frank@trident.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:31:52 -0300
Subject: Days of our Lives saga

- ----------
To Greg Beaulieu:
Have been following the soap opera with Marty and have no idea how you can
handle some
of this crªp but I am glad you do.On behalf of all of us thanks for all
your hard work.
Frank Gonzalez
70 442
71 442 W30 convt
72 Cutlass S
90 LSC s\e

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From: "Jason Labay" <z28cfi@gwis.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 04:24:56 -0300
Subject: Re: Cruise after the SuperNats.....

Curious, will they be cruising Saturday night also? If so I will head out
there as long as it is not raining hard. I watched all the cars caravan out
there today from my house near 224. Had to be 100+ pass by.

Sorry, I know this should have been private but I couldn't retrieve Linda's
e-mail address with my crappy e-mailer....
- --------
Jason Labay  Akron, Ohio (z28cfi@gwis.com)
93 Z/28...patriot red, A4, G92, PEG2
80 Olds 442 W-30
75 Hurst/Olds W-25


- ----------
>
> Jason - don't go to the fairgrounds - go to 224
> in Boardman for the cruise!  They are cruising til
> 2 am or so.  Olds was well represented - probably
> about 15-20 Cutlass/442/Hurst Olds there.  Literally
> thousands of people all over - kinda like a circus!
>

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