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oldsmobile-digest      Thursday, August 28 1997      Volume 01 : Number 823



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Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: drop top update
Re: Toro Truck
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: I'm back, with many responses (fwd)
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: Re[2]: DBL scoop air cleaner
My trip to Lansing
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
FW: My trip to Lansing
Kicked off?
Two new additions to the driveway
Re: '84 H/O rough idle.
87 olds cutless siera
87 Oldsmobile Cutless Siera
Re: Joe Padavano:  History Ctr. Address
Julian Show
Re: New(er) Starfires
Car Sightings, non Olds
Re: Car Sightings, non Olds
Re: 70 442 seatbelts
Re: 70 442 seatbelts
Re: Repo OAI hoods Think twice
Tranny fluid & Oil light ???
Re: What are 72-81 F-bodies again?!
Re: Tranny fluid & Oil light ???
E-Mail messages
Re: '84 H/O rough idle.
Re: '84 H/O rough idle.
Re: '82 out of gas
Remove
New addition to driveway
Re: 70 442 seatbelts
Re: Still Another Lansing Story (short)
Re: Repo OAI hoods Think twice
Re: drop top update
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: '68-'69 Olds Parts for sale
Re: Joe Padavano:  History Ctr. Address
Re: E-Mail messages
Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics
Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics
Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics
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Re: '68-'69 Olds Parts for sale
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Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing
Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics
So long for now but not goodbye
FW:Please forward to List Admin

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:31:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay9624@aol.com
Subject: remove



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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 07:34:20 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

 Dan,

They were first built as 1962's beginning in March of 1962.  I believe that
all of these were automatics as mine is.  The 1963's were built all year, &
I have seen more 4-speeds than automatics.

 I understand that the turbo didn't work as well on the 4-speed as it didnt'
have the cushion of the torque converter to smooth out the torque flow when
the 'trubo came on".   There is a lot of turbo lag w/4-barrel like action
from low rpm's to a rush at about 2000 rpm up through 5000, & then it starts
all over again as the slow automatic shifts to the next gear.  Several have
described it as a row boat type action.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama




>Drew,
>
>Yes, there was.  It was over in one of the distant lots.  It was tan with a
>white top.  It was a '63 (which was the only year of the Jetfire, wasn't
it?
>
>
>Dan

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 07:45:15 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: drop top update

Patton,

 I'd like to see one.  I have a Dodge that will need some work this winter.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama




Rocketteers,
A while back there were questions about bleeding the pump and the
hydraulic system. I just came across a kit in a (Indian chief) catalog. I
made one
two years ago from a diagram in the Fisher Body Manual and it worked well.
Kit cost is $17.00. I will post to individuals who are interested.

The General.

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 07:47:35 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Toro Truck

 Hans,

That sounds like my kind of custom car.  I'd love to see some pictures.
Send them on.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama


>
>I went home got the camera and snapped off some shots.  It looks pretty
cool
>with a ratty old V*tt* parked on the bed. I don't have a web page but can
Email
>pics if somebody wants em or can post them for the public.
>
>Hans
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 97 20:54:49 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

>2.  1971-1976 Custom Cruiser Station Wagon.

There was a extremely clean 75' Station Wagon in Lot GG on Saturday. It
was the only one that I saw, beautiful wagon...


Michael R. Hall                                Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Oldsmobile Stable:
     1971 Oldsmobile 442, A Work In Progress...
     1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S, 14.27 @ 97.18 mph
     1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm, the classy one...

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 07:56:51 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

 Clayton,

Of course, I'd love to see that picture.  I have only actually seen 3 cars
ever.  One is my own, 1 '63 4-speed at the Atlanta BOP show in 1981, &one
'63 in a junque yarde.  I have all the emblems from the junque yarde one.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama




>I believe that I may actually have gotten a picture of it.  I'll find out
>in a few days when I get my film back (can't afford that 1 hour stuff).  I
>KNOW I got pictures of a Starfire or two, but I think I got the Jetfire
>too.  If I've got the pic.  I'll get it scanned and post it asap as final
>proof that there actually was one of these cars there :-)
>
>Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
>Clayton Pierce,

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 97 19:37:54 -0500
From: "padavano.joe" <padavano.joe@Orbital.COM>
Subject: Re: I'm back, with many responses (fwd)

David Brown wrote:

> Unusual 442 for sale
Maybe the Olds History Center could shed some light on this car.

     OK, I'll bite.  How do I contact the Olds History Center?  I really
     would like to chase down the story on this car.

     Joe Padavano
     padavano.joe@orbital.com

     66 442
     68 W-30
     69 H/O
     70 W-30

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:19:13
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

At 03:15 PM 8/27/97 -0400, you wrote:

>> Yes, there was.  It was over in one of the distant lots.  It was tan with a
>> white top.  It was a '63 (which was the only year of the Jetfire, wasn't
it?
>
>So did anyone get a pic of this mysterious Jetfire?  I'd like to get a
>hold of one to give to an unfortunate soul who didn't make it to Nats.
>
>8)
>peg

No, unfortunately I do not have a good picture of it.  But it looks a lot
like a '63 Cutlass (in fact, it looks exactly like one, until you look
under the hood).  I have several photos of '63 Cutlass convertibles that
were at Lansing.


Dan


*********************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
*********************************************************
see photos of the Oldsmobile Centennial at
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/lansing/lansing.html
*********************************************************

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:20:19
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

At 03:24 PM 8/27/97 -0500, you wrote:

>Incedentally, I was looking specifically there for a car of the type I
>used to own, but couldn't find it.  No 4 door 1974 Delta 88's.  In fact, I
>don't think there were any '74 Delta 88's at all.  Don't tell me I had a
>RARE car crushed...  it was wrecked anyway... and pretty ugly at that.

The only '74 Delta I saw was the convertible H/O Indy pace car.  It was
seen driving around town quite a bit, and I'm pretty sure it was in the
parade.


Dan


*********************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
*********************************************************
see photos of the Oldsmobile Centennial at
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/lansing/lansing.html
*********************************************************

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:32:08
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

At 07:34 AM 8/27/97 -0000, you wrote:
> Dan,
>
>They were first built as 1962's beginning in March of 1962.  I believe that
>all of these were automatics as mine is.  The 1963's were built all year, &
>I have seen more 4-speeds than automatics.

Thanks for the info.


Dan


*********************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
*********************************************************
see photos of the Oldsmobile Centennial at
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/lansing/lansing.html
*********************************************************

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:37:28
From: "Daniel A. Gulino" <gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

At 08:54 PM 8/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>2.  1971-1976 Custom Cruiser Station Wagon.
>
>There was a extremely clean 75' Station Wagon in Lot GG on Saturday. It
>was the only one that I saw, beautiful wagon...

If this was tan in color, then I think I saw it, too, but it wasn't a
Custom Cruiser.  There was a mid-70s Cutlass Cruiser, and I think this is
what this car was.  These were based on the Cutlass and had the taillights
and so forth _in_ the rear bumper, which was an arrangement I never thought
looked good.  If there was a Custom Cruiser, I missed it.  Lot GG is where
my car was, so I spent considerable time there.



*********************************************************
Dan Gulino
gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
1975 Delta 88 Convertible
*********************************************************
see photos of the Oldsmobile Centennial at
http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/lansing/lansing.html
*********************************************************

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:52:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Sugarmans <sugarman@berkshire.net>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: DBL scoop air cleaner

On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, padavano.joe wrote:

>
>      Nope, sorry.  The closest thing would be the 68-69 O.A.I. air cleaner,
>      but that one has straight ends on the snorkels (to allow the hoses to
>      fit over ends) and actuators on the snorkels for the hot air flappers.
>      The Sugarman mystery air cleaner looks like the ones used on mid-60s
>      GM musclecars from other divisions.  It is _not_ an Olds unit.  I had

Update on the mystery:

Got an email from my son today.  He reminded me that when the bought the
car there were under-the-bumper air scoops and hoses to this this dbl
scoop air cleaner.  The air scoops were added in the '70s by a PO.  (The
PO butchered the wheels wells for the air hoses. <groan>)

My son traded the air scoops, for more important parts, to a guy who works
in a junk yard here in western MA who has a w-30 sitting in a barn at his
home.

Since the air scoops were added after the fact, I would guess the air
cleaner was, as well.  Besides, since those of you who know say that this
air cleaner is not Olds - who am i to argue.  :)

There is no evidence of thermostatically controlled valves of any kind on
the scoops.

His other air cleaner has the long, flared air scoop with the Thermac (?)
valve with vacuum line and the breather hose from PCV valve on the side.
This is more like the air cleaner I had on my 69 Cutlass S, if I remember
correctly.

Nevertheless, the dbl scoop air cleaner does look good. ;)

don sugarman

sugarman@berkshire.net

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:55:52 -0400
From: "Kerr, Brian (R)" <Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com>
Subject: My trip to Lansing

Well Thursday morning I painted my first car (not an Olds but good practice)
and due to the usual delays in getting out of Ontario, (traffic, border
crossing, and in general, just not getting the lead out..) we did not arrive
in Lansing until after 9 pm Thurs, so figured there was little point in
trying to get to the List meeting. Instead we bought a Lansing map ( after
getting lost) and tracking down the CottonWood Campground to get settled in
for the night. The trooper that stopped me on I 69 to explain that while
pulling a trailer over 750 lb on Michigan highways the speed limit is 55,
not 70, didnt help us get there on time either. I suppose that if I hadnt
been doing 80, it may not have been as much of a concern. Instead I had to
post a $50 cash bond and I have 10 days to contact this number etc.
etc.etc......

I did however, run into Everett Horton at the Western BBque, and Cliff
McFarlane at the Randy Travis concert. I wont go into the show details as
our other members have done a fine job of reporting thier adventures. The
Saturday night show was great, the old Oldsmobile TV ads were interesting
however long, and the fireworks from the Oldmobile seating area were
amazing, and we headed home Sunday worn out and very happy that we 'were
there' and took part this unique bit of history.

Sorry I missed the group, but glad to here that people had a good time.

Brian Kerr
Beverley Moon

Cambridge Ontario
69 Cutlass Conv

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:44:54 -0700
From: mapsrus@juno.com (Brett J Lucas)
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

Here is another car that I did not see in Lansing.  A 1959 Olds Fiesta
Wagon.  My dad bought one in 1959 from the factory in Lansing....

Brett


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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:00:04 -0400
From: "Kerr, Brian (R)" <Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com>
Subject: FW: My trip to Lansing

 ----------
From: Kerr, Brian (R)
To: 'Olds List'
Subject: My trip to Lansing
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 1997 9:44PM

Well Thursday morning I painted my first car (not an Olds but good practice)
and due to the usual delays in getting out of Ontario, (traffic, border
crossing, and in general, just not getting the lead out..) we did not arrive
in Lansing until after 9 pm Thurs, so figured there was little point in
trying to get to the List meeting. Instead we bought a Lansing map ( after
getting lost) and tracking down the CottonWood Campground to get settled in
for the night. The trooper that stopped me on I 69 to explain that while
pulling a trailer over 750 lb on Michigan highways the speed limit is 55,
not 70, didnt help us get there on time either. I suppose that if I hadnt
been doing 80, it may not have been as much of a concern. Instead I had to
post a $50 cash bond and I have 10 days to contact this number etc.
etc.etc......

I did however, run into Everett Horton at the Western BBque, and Cliff
McFarlane at the Randy Travis concert. I wont go into the show details as
our other members have done a fine job of reporting thier adventures. The
Saturday night show was great, the old Oldsmobile TV ads were interesting
however long, and the fireworks from the Oldmobile seating area were
amazing, and we headed home Sunday worn out and very happy that we 'were
there' and took part this unique bit of history.

Sorry I missed the group, but glad to here that people had a good time.

Brian Kerr
Beverley Moon

Cambridge Ontario
69 Cutlass Conv

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:14:29 -0600
From: orthsd-r@juno.com (David A Orth)
Subject: Kicked off?

No messages in two days...  something is wrong.
Help, I'm starting to shake from withdrawls from "THE LIST".

Thanks

Dave
'84 H/O

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Date: 27 Aug 97 23:08:56 EDT
From: "deirdre. reilly" <102724.635@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Two new additions to the driveway

Hey Oldsmobilers!!

First of I would like to say that I'm jealous of all those that were able to
attend the big party in Lansing.  I wish I could have gone.  I hope that every 
5
year thing works out.  That seems like a good idea.

Well, I mentioned a few weeks back that I was getting an '83 Cutlass Ciera from
a friend, I finally picked it up last week.  This is an amazing car.  It's a
Cutlass Ciera Brougham.  It aslo has the International series flags on it but
I'm not sure if that means anything inparticular.  It sat for about two years
and looked a lot more rough than I thought.  After I cleaned it up real good, 
it
still shines great (except the hood; really lacquer checked). There is only one
small rust spot about the size of a quarter and the interior is also just as
immaculte.  It has a full vinyl roof with custom installed sunroof, cruise,
Kenwood pullout (real old), and bucket seats?? with console.  It has a 4 cyl
Pontiac engine with only 90K miles, is a light brown with dark brown interior,
and is a four door.  I only paid $400 for it and have put about $5-600 more in
parts into the car, basically needed items like tires, battery, plugs, wires,
etc.  So I think I got a good deal and it has turned out to be a great commuter
and pizza delivery vehicle.

This means that I have offically retired my '85 Cutlass Supreme from active 
duty
and that hopefully work will begin soon on that.

Also, hopefully we'll be purchasing an '86 Cutlass Supreme for my younger
brother who gets his license in a few weeks.  That'll make 3 out of 4 cars in
the driveway Oldsmobiles!! I'll hopefully be getting a set of Chrome Rally rims
from the same guy for my Cultass.  I can't wait for that.

I hope I haven't bored anyone, I just wanted to share what's been going on with
me lately.

Bill Reilly
'85 Cutlass Supreme (OFFICIAL Project Car!!)
'83 Cutlass Ciera (OFFICIAL Daily Driver)
Maybe '86 Cutlass Supreme for my younger brother Sean

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:30:22 -0400
From: Mike Rothe <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: '84 H/O rough idle.

Tom Lentz wrote:
>
> In the past few weeks my '84 H/O has been running rougher and rougher,
> to the point where it almost stalled when starting from a stop
> yesterday.  I'm sort of at a loss as to where to start troubleshooting.


Shootin from the hip here, since I don't have a diagnostic tool hooked
to your car, so here goes.  Check to see if your EGR valve bolts are
tight, and if the unit is even working.  Sometimes this little dude can
give you all kinds of trouble with out even giving you a code.

Hope that's all it is....

Mike Rothe

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:01:32 +0000
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: 87 olds cutless siera

Hi,
My lovely car stalls at lights etc.
I have already replaced plugs, wires, filters. Light says: Service
engine soon.
I would really appreciate any help!
Sincerely, Al

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:19:51 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: 87 Oldsmobile Cutless Siera

Hi,
Can anyone help?
My lovely car stalls at traffic lights etc.
Have tried replacing filters, Plugs & their wires, etc with no luck.
Light comes on every now & then saying, "service engine soon".
Thanks in advance!
Sincerely, Al

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:26:24 -0500
From: dnewman@wcbi.com (Doug Newman)
Subject: Re: Joe Padavano:  History Ctr. Address

Joe Padavano wrote:

     >OK, I'll bite.  How do I contact the Olds History Center?  I really
     >would like to chase down the story on this car.

Oldsmobile History Center
920 Townsend Street
Lansing, Michigan   48921-0001

Doug Newman
Columbus, MS
1987 442

http://www.442.com/newman.html
http://wcbi.com

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:48:33 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Julian Show

Just what I need, something to haul more cars home with :-)

As for the Julian show - you can take the 5 south, all the way down to
Oceanside, then take the 78 east.  That snakes south for a short ways, then
Y's off at Ramona where you continue east.  Continue east past the Y with
the 79 and after an undetermined distance you'll reach Julian (if memory
serves its about 10-15 miles but don't hold me to it). Nice scenery!  The
show will be held from 10:00 am - 2:00 pm in the parking lot of the Valley
Independant Bank at Main & B streets.  Looks like when you come into town
on the 78, at the intersection with Main Street, you hang a right.

Look forward to having you - right now I'm just planning on taking the
Delta - she loooooves those long freeway hauls.

Hope to see you there.  Erick - hope your heart transplant goes/has gone
smoothly & you can make it as well.


Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'66 Toronado
'67 Delta 88 Custom
'69 Toronado (aka Toro II)
'72 Vista Cruiser

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:40:26 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: New(er) Starfires

Funny this little Olds should come up - there is someone on our block with
an exceptionally clean little Buick version (Skyhawk?) that keeps reminding
me I haven't seen any of its Olds cousins in a loooong while.




Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

'66 Toronado
'67 Delta 88 Custom
'69 Toronado (aka Toro II)
'72 Vista Cruiser

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:24:32 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Car Sightings, non Olds

In the last 10 days I have had two of the best car sightings ever -

In the WalMart parking lot, in a 1963-64 Ford Falcon  three little old
ladies with HATS and WHITE GLOVES  preparing to do some shopping.  This
Falcon's paint, interior & brightwork was just immaculate and appeared
original.  They stayed in it haggling over coupons or something cause I was
gonna ask her how many miles she had on it.  Then I started feeling like a
peeping tom standing there so I left.

Today, on the way to work, a 1958-60 Plymouth Fury - all glorious fins &
catseye headlights, eye-blinding chrome bumpers and gleaming paint -
piloted by, yes, you got it, a little blue haired lady who made me laugh as
she drove leaning forward gripping the wheel, eyes glued to the road, she
left them ALL at the stoplight, I mean that Plymouth was MOVING.

Then there is the other little white glove, hatted ladies I spot
periodically in another early '60's Ford with a slightly pushed in back
bumper that otherwise looks like it just rolled off the showroom floor.
Falcons were sure popular.

I think if I ever spotted an Olds like the aforementioned - I'd probably
wrap my VC around a tree gawping at it.

Still makes my day to see lovely original metal like that in such great
shape (& good hands).
Lisa Madsen
Anaheim, CA

My cars & their alias'
'66 Toronado (LA Woman)
'67 Delta 88 Custom  (Tizzy)
'69 Toronado (Toro II)
'72 Vista Cruiser (VC)

Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com

My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:02:14 -0400
From: Don Sowers <dstaxpro@lex.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Car Sightings, non Olds

James Thingwold wrote:
>
> In the last 10 days I have had two of the best car sightings ever -
>
> In the WalMart parking lot, in a 1963-64 Ford Falcon  three little old
> ladies with HATS and WHITE GLOVES  preparing to do some shopping.  This
> Falcon's paint, interior & brightwork was just immaculate and appeared
> original.  They stayed in it haggling over coupons or something cause I was
> gonna ask her how many miles she had on it.  Then I started feeling like a
> peeping tom standing there so I left.
>
> Today, on the way to work, a 1958-60 Plymouth Fury - all glorious fins &
> catseye headlights, eye-blinding chrome bumpers and gleaming paint -
> piloted by, yes, you got it, a little blue haired lady who made me laugh as
> she drove leaning forward gripping the wheel, eyes glued to the road, she
> left them ALL at the stoplight, I mean that Plymouth was MOVING.
>
> Then there is the other little white glove, hatted ladies I spot
> periodically in another early '60's Ford with a slightly pushed in back
> bumper that otherwise looks like it just rolled off the showroom floor.
> Falcons were sure popular.
>
> I think if I ever spotted an Olds like the aforementioned - I'd probably
> wrap my VC around a tree gawping at it.
>
> Still makes my day to see lovely original metal like that in such great
> shape (& good hands).
> Lisa Madsen
> Anaheim, CA
>
> My cars & their alias'
> '66 Toronado (LA Woman)
> '67 Delta 88 Custom  (Tizzy)
> '69 Toronado (Toro II)
> '72 Vista Cruiser (VC)
>
> Please E-Mail me at-----:  Lisa@hotglass.com
>
> My Web-Page-----:  http://exo.com/~jht/olds/
Lisa,

I've always appreciated a fine car, good food, excellent wine and lovely
women.  I have had a GTO, Corvette, Dodge Charger, Trans Am and several
Cutlass/442 types as well as a 280Z, Jensen-Healey and two RX-7s.  I
loved them all.  Those who don't enjoy a spirited car are missing out on
one of the better things in life.  A day without a convertible, sunroof
or T-tops is a blah day.  I'm glad the body shop is finally finishing up
my 90 Mark VII (24K miles) as I'm a little tired of the Town Car I use
in my business daily.  My favorite new type car has been Lincolns, but
my favorite old love belongs to Cutlass/442 styles from 69 to 72.  I
like other Olds products and other makes on an individual basis.  I JUST
LIKE MUSCLE CARS and always have.  If I had the assets and the storage I
would own hundreds of older cars.  I think that is what this list is all
about, people respecting and cherishing our automotive history.  It's a
shame some of our legislators don't understand this.  It's like when I
moved into one of the nicer neighborhoods in my area 6 years ago.  I had
my unrestored  72 Hurst sitting in the back yard while I tried to
organize the garage space.  The lady next door saw an old piece of
junk.  I saw a beautiful piece of automotive sculture.  Same car,
different viewpoint.  It is now inside in heated/cooled storage awaiting
restoring.  One day when time permits, I will start.  Sorry for the
length, but as you can probably tell this is a subject I feel very
deeply about.

Here's to our heritage.  May we keep the politicians away from it.

Don Sowers
Nicholasville, Ky

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:00:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: C191145cal@aol.com
Subject: Re: 70 442 seatbelts

Hey dave thank you for you response this clears up the mystery.  I greatly
appreciate the information.  Oh do you have  Ssnake Oyle's phone number?

Thank you Jim   NY

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:09:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: C191145cal@aol.com
Subject: Re: 70 442 seatbelts

Hey mike,  Thanks for the info. This helped me out alot.  Now that I know
what to look for I'm sure I can find it.  That always helps..   Sorry for the
delay in returning thanks.

Thanks again Jim NY

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:32:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: C191145cal@aol.com
Subject: Re: Repo OAI hoods Think twice

I called Year One and inquired about their OAI hoods.  The fellow told me
that they are not the best and he would not recommend them.. Would you
believe that?  He went on and mentioned how he had one come off his car at 70
MPH.  Different model car, same pin set up though, and same hood
manufactorer.  Its too bad someone does'nt just make the hood right.  instead
of half a....  Where did the metal frame go?? Ahhh you don't need it.   Oh
well just thought you'd like to know...

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:28:18 -0400
From: Pat McDermott <kor@thepoint.net>
Subject: Tranny fluid & Oil light ???

A couple of simple Questions.
First when I change my transmission fluid how much fluid should it take
to refill it???(350)
Secondly, my oil light keeps coming on when I start the car. It goes off
after 10 seconds or so.
It's full of oil. Any Ideas?

Thanks for any ideas.
Pat McDermott
'69 Cutlass Convertible
Ky.

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 05:51:49 -0500
From: Thomas Martin <Thomas_Martin@css.mot.com>
Subject: Re: What are 72-81 F-bodies again?!

This is a little long, but I have studied it a long time ago, have some
of the parts, and hope to do it someday.

The only cars that I have found with the larger rotors that will work on
the 70-81 F-Body and 75-80 X body is the B-Body wagon (FULL size), i.e.
The Custom Cruiser, Caprice Wagon, the Buick Estate Wagon, Cadillac
Hearse/Ambulance.  BUT you need to look for the 5 X 5 wheel bolt pattern
to find the larger brakes.  The front will measure 12 in.  All you have
to do is swap spindles and rotors.  Calipers are interchangeable, you
don't need to change them at all.  Cost is minimal, and you get approx.
33% more braking power due to greater swept area, and a longer level in
which to act upon.  The brakes have been said to come on cop cars as
well.  I will check on that.  Go to your local autoparts store and
inquire about prices for a rotor for a 1978ish wagon, they will ask you
for the rotor size.  Double check that 80 and up are the same.  GM put
the larger brakes on for a long time.  The older wagons I believe
already had them, like the 76 98 wagon, and possibly all the 76 and
older B and C bodies, at least it was an option.  A friend had a 82 267
2bbl, 115 hp slo-block wagon with the large brakes, 2.56's and OD.  Not
a trailering car at all, but it had them.  I couldn't steal them from
him, I tried!  It did brake well though.

I cannot speak for the El Camino, but the F-Body NEVER got the 12in
brakes factory until the 1LE (87ish), BTW It has been said that 1LE
front rotor will work on the older 70-81 cars, I suspect that it will
only for 1980-81.  The 1LE rear rotor is the same part number as the
79-81 Firebird rear disc.  Check standard brakes for both cars and see
if the rotors are the same.  GM started a Metric affinity from 77 on, in
1980 they got to suspensions.  The 80 inner wheel bearings are said to
be larger (less warranty trouble), and the tie rods went to a metric
taper.  I have an 80, but have not idea if this is true.   I think
something else was metric, but can't remember what.  I'm sure someone
will remember.  The 80 and up brakes (from the wagon) are the best, but
77 to 79 are the most compatible with the older cars to retrofit.  If
you can, make sure you find calipers that are 2 3/8 in or larger
pistons, the smaller cars are 2 in.  This will result in less pedal
pressure (according to my brake handbook) due to a more even force
exerted on the brake pads.
The rear disc on the F-Bodies from 79-81 was a 2in piston, the 76-78
Eldorado's (Never saw a Toro with, but rumored to be an option!  Someone
let me know!) have the larger 2 3/8 in, like the front brakes)

Thomas Martin
85 Cutlass Supreme 307

>>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:22:24 -0700
>>From: Erik Nowacki <enowacki@titan.com>
>>Subject: Re: What are 72-81 F-bodies again?!
>
>>At 11:27 AM 8/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>>I'm upgrading my '65 442 A-arms to the Hotchkis tubular arm system.  They
>>>recommend upgrading to 72-81 F-body spindles and 11"-12" rotors when doing
>>>the switch. I should know this, but I've been up for over 36 hours already,
>>>and can't think all that clearly. I THINK this family includes the El
>>>Camino
>>>and the corresponding cars.  If so, of these types of vehicles, which would
>>>have the bigger 12" rotors?!
>>>
>>Scott,
>
>>The F-bodies are the Camaro and the Firebird.  The El Camino, I believe,
>>was built on a Chevelle chassis and would therefore be an A body.
>
>>Erik Nowacki
>>San Diego
>>72 Vista Cruiser
>
>------------------------------
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:36:48 -0400
From: Howie <qcquad@cuny.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Re: Tranny fluid & Oil light ???

according to my book the th350 takes 10qts of fluid, i believe this
includes the converter too. they also recommend a filter/fluid change
every 2 years. i do it every 50,000mi. i never noticed my th350's taking
10 qts. how i did it was to add 2 qts then fire the car up and add to
the fill line on the stick.
as for the oil light, it sounds like your loosing the prime in the
filter. i don't know what kind of  engine you have so its hard to say.
but check the filter make sure it is tight and the correct one for that
motor for that year. the sender could be clogged and sending a false
indication to you. it could also be the begining of oil pump problems,
but i doubt it

Howie
71 olds cutlass supr

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:03:18 -0500
From: "O. Temple Ascue Jr." <tas147@airmail.net>
Subject: E-Mail messages

Take me of your computer list.  I don't want anymore of these messages.

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:49:28 -0400
From: Howie <qcquad@cuny.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Re: '84 H/O rough idle.

i had an 86 monte with a 4.3 tbi. the sensors gave me fits. the computer
only faults a sensor when its out of limits. a sensor can be in limits
and send false reading to the computer. i recommend to start by
checking/ replacing the oxygen sensor because you say it happends when
the computer switches to closed loop. another sensor to look into is the
coolant temp sensor. i'm assuming the computer acts much like a computer
for fuel injection

Howie

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 07:42:35 -0400
From: "Terry E Teague" <dawgs@conninc.com>
Subject: Re: '84 H/O rough idle.

Hello all I have had a simular experience witn a Buick try checking the
MAT sensor....it acted the same way and when I unscreewed the mat it was
fried .

Terry Teague
68 DELTA CUSTOM

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:23:43 -0700
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: '82 out of gas

Hi all,

I haven't mentioned this following item since I really wasn't a big
deal, however, It is annoying:

When my car (82 DRB) is approximately 1/2 full of gas in the tank my
"Low Fuel" light comes on.  It is activated when I take a turn too
sharply.  Can't figure it out.  I know I have plenty of gas.

Any thoughts.


Chris Sparks

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 08:40:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: World87058@aol.com
Subject: Remove

Cool list But I have no time.

Brian

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 08:01:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: bryceman@442.com
Subject: New addition to driveway

Greetings all. I have been pining over a '65 Vista Cruiser here in town for
about a year and a half. A local car collector owned it and was looking to
thin out his '60s vehicles since he is mainly a late 40s & 50s guy.
With the S-10's appearance and mechanical condition getting worse every
day, I decided to unload it and get the VC.
 The cruiser's in fair shape and will make a good daily driver. It is
target red with red interior and an alpine white headliner. It has a power
bench seat in front, anti-spin diff., power tailgate window and the
optional chrome luggage rack. Even came with the original window sticker.
Looks real good with the ET style mags off the S-10 mounted on it.
Cant wait to take it camping, no more setting up the tent for me. Just fold
the seats down, toss in the air matress and crash. Thats what I call a
sport utility vehicle. I should have pictures posted in the Brycemobiles
section next week.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Oldsmobiles!
'66 Dynamic 88 B07 Apprehender
'65 442 Post Coupe
'65 Vista Cruiser
'72 H/O Pace Car Replica
Email: bryceman@442.com  URL: www.442.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 08:14:14 -0500
From: david wyatt <Wyatt_David_L@LILLY.COM>
Subject: Re: 70 442 seatbelts

Jim in NY,
I do not have an address for Ssnake Oyl available this morning.  They
run ads in Hemmings Motor News, Musclecar Review, and many other
publications.  I do know that they have been in business for a number of
years.  Good luck in your search.

Dave Wyatt
70  4-4-2

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:55:30 -0400
From: mrhell@m1.sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Still Another Lansing Story (short)

I then turned to my 15 month old son strapped in his car seat in
the back seat of the H/O coupe and said "Say good-by to the pretty lady".  This
"encounter" was the highlight of my one day visit to Lansing.

========================================================================

LOL! Too bad the boy won't remember that moment. :)  Glad you got to go to
Lansing.  I was only able to go one day myself, (sudden death of a friend), but
I'm sure glad I did.  Can't wait till 2002!

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:59:01 -0400
From: mrhell@m1.sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Repo OAI hoods Think twice

>I called Year One and inquired about their OAI hoods.  The fellow told me
>that they are not the best and he would not recommend them.. Would you
>believe that?  He went on and mentioned how he had one come off his car at 70
>MPH.>

Hats off to this guy! :)  Too bad more guys in the parts business aren't this
way.

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:42:35 +0900
From: James Zito <jimzito@soback.kornet.nm.kr>
Subject: Re: drop top update

I own a 69 442 conv and already know that it needs new hoses so i'd
appreciate the diagram.

thanks
Jim
69 442

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 97 10:10 EDT
From: turley@symplex.com (Mike Turley)
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

>Did you see any Jetfires?  I never saw one, and at least expected one to be
>in the parade.  Bill Culp, I blame you for the fact that I did not see a
>Jetfire this year!  You owe us one next year!  ;-)
>
>I admit that I didn't make it to the lot where the early 60's cars would
>have been on display.  Were there Jetfire's there?
>
>--
>Drew


Drew,

I did see one '62 Jetfire, it was driving down Grand Ave. on Thursday
morning.  I never saw it again.  It was white with a red interior.

Interesting Jetfire side note:

I attended the Olds Homecoming Show in Lansing on June 14 of this year.
There was a metallic copperish colored '63 Jetfire there.  It had just
recently received a complete restoration (all turbo stuff intact).
White interior, 4-speed, immaculate car.  Came in on a trailer.
It was for sale.  Asking price 12K.

My brother and father were very interested in this car, and talked to the
owner at great length.  They were, however, second in line.

One guess as to who was first?  Time's up!  Mr. Darwin Clark.

So, I believe Mr. Clark owns a beautiful '63 Jetfire.

One other comment; this car had one of the coolest exhaust notes I've
ever heard.

Mike Turley     '66 442
turley@symplex.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 97 08:11:37 -0500
From: brad.nicholson@ssa.gov
Subject: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics

While in Lansing I picked up a free magazine @ the Quality Dairy, "Michigan
Traveler".  They have alot of stories on Olds' 100th and the cover car is a
Jetfire.  Anyway I'll 'reprint' some neat things from it from time to time.
Here's the first cute article:
==========================================================================
Lyrics to "In My Merry Oldsmobile"

Young Johnny Steele has an Oldsmobile
He loves a dear little girl.
She is the queen of his gas machine,
She has his heart in a whirl.
Now, when they go for a spin, you know,
She tries to learn the auto, so,
He lets her steer, while he gets her ear,
And whispers soft and low.

Come away with me Lucille,
In my merry Oldsmobile.
Down the road of life we'll fly,
Automobubbling, you and I.
To the church we'll swiftly steal,
Then our wedding bells will peal,
You can go as far as you like with me,
In my merry Oldsmobile.

Music by Gus Edwards,  Lyrics by Vincent Bryant

 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson
| | | 1987 442 W-42
|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
| | | Oldsmobile Club of America ª18984
 ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Chapter of OCA
(W) brad.nicholson@ssa.gov   (H) brad442@erols.com
Personal Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442
OCC Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/occ
OCA Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/oca

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:15:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

Actually, I'm pretty sure I did see one of these.  It WAS a Fiesta, and it
was either a '59 or a '60, I'm not sure which.  It was on the road
downtown that was lined with cars to show (the one running east-west)
somewhere between the Rite Aid and the Tobacco shop.  It was white and
looked original (unrestored or in the process of being restored).  Greg
Pruett might remember more details.

Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
Clayton Pierce,
zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu
the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com

On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Brett J Lucas wrote:

>
> Here is another car that I did not see in Lansing.  A 1959 Olds Fiesta
> Wagon.  My dad bought one in 1959 from the factory in Lansing....
>
> Brett
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:16:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Geo679@aol.com
Subject: Re: '68-'69 Olds Parts for sale

what    kind of motor and $ for it. Interested in rocket 350 or larger. let
me know as soon as possible. Geo679@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:25:19 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: Joe Padavano:  History Ctr. Address

At 11:26 PM 8/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Joe Padavano wrote:
>
>     >OK, I'll bite.  How do I contact the Olds History Center?  I really
>     >would like to chase down the story on this car.
>
>Oldsmobile History Center
>920 Townsend Street
>Lansing, Michigan   48921-0001
>
>Doug Newman
>Columbus, MS
>1987 442
>
>http://www.442.com/newman.html
>http://wcbi.com
>
>.-  Hi Doug,
     Did I send you a message by mistake?
     I need info!
     Sincerely, Al
>
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:25:34 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: E-Mail messages

At 02:03 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Take me of your computer list.  I don't want anymore of these messages.
>
>
>.-
>
>  ME TO!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:22:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Clayton Pierce <zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu>
Subject: Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics

On Thu, 28 Aug 1997 brad.nicholson@ssa.gov wrote:

> Lyrics to "In My Merry Oldsmobile"
>
> Come away with me Lucille,
                    ^^^^^^
AH YES!!!!  I knew I named my car right :-)


> In my merry Oldsmobile.
> Down the road of life we'll fly,
> Automobubbling, you and I.
> To the church we'll swiftly steal,
> Then our wedding bells will peal,
> You can go as far as you like with me,
> In my merry Oldsmobile.
>


Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
Clayton Pierce and
Lucille the 1984 Cutlass Supreme
(350, 4bbl, TH375 (built), 2.41:1 open, 74k miles)
who is now sporting a really cool ram rod 350 sticker from Mark
Cornea on her breather.

zcwp11@access.ETSU-Tn.Edu
the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:44:52 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics

At 08:11 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>While in Lansing I picked up a free magazine @ the Quality Dairy, "Michigan
>Traveler".  They have alot of stories on Olds' 100th and the cover car is a
>Jetfire.  Anyway I'll 'reprint' some neat things from it from time to time.
>Here's the first cute article:
>==========================================================================
>Lyrics to "In My Merry Oldsmobile"
>
>Young Johnny Steele has an Oldsmobile
>He loves a dear little girl.
>She is the queen of his gas machine,
>She has his heart in a whirl.
>Now, when they go for a spin, you know,
>She tries to learn the auto, so,
>He lets her steer, while he gets her ear,
>And whispers soft and low.
>
>Come away with me Lucille,
>In my merry Oldsmobile.
>Down the road of life we'll fly,
>Automobubbling, you and I.
>To the church we'll swiftly steal,
>Then our wedding bells will peal,
>You can go as far as you like with me,
>In my merry Oldsmobile.
>
>Music by Gus Edwards,  Lyrics by Vincent Bryant
>
> ---
>| | | Brad Nicholson
>| | | 1987 442 W-42
>|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
>| | | Oldsmobile Club of America ª18984
> ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Chapter of OCA
>(W) brad.nicholson@ssa.gov   (H) brad442@erols.com
>Personal Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442
>OCC Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/occ
>OCA Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/oca
>
>
>
>.-NO MORE MAIL PLEASE!
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:44:51 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

At 10:10 AM 8/28/97 EDT, you wrote:
>>Did you see any Jetfires?  I never saw one, and at least expected one to be
>>in the parade.  Bill Culp, I blame you for the fact that I did not see a
>>Jetfire this year!  You owe us one next year!  ;-)
>>
>>I admit that I didn't make it to the lot where the early 60's cars would
>>have been on display.  Were there Jetfire's there?
>>
>>--
>>Drew
>
>
>Drew,
>
>I did see one '62 Jetfire, it was driving down Grand Ave. on Thursday
>morning.  I never saw it again.  It was white with a red interior.
>
>Interesting Jetfire side note:
>
>I attended the Olds Homecoming Show in Lansing on June 14 of this year.
>There was a metallic copperish colored '63 Jetfire there.  It had just
>recently received a complete restoration (all turbo stuff intact).
>White interior, 4-speed, immaculate car.  Came in on a trailer.
>It was for sale.  Asking price 12K.
>
>My brother and father were very interested in this car, and talked to the
>owner at great length.  They were, however, second in line.
>
>One guess as to who was first?  Time's up!  Mr. Darwin Clark.
>
>So, I believe Mr. Clark owns a beautiful '63 Jetfire.
>
>One other comment; this car had one of the coolest exhaust notes I've
>ever heard.
>
>Mike Turley     '66 442
>turley@symplex.com
>.-
>
>   NO MORE MAIL PLEASE!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:45:01 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics

At 08:11 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>While in Lansing I picked up a free magazine @ the Quality Dairy, "Michigan
>Traveler".  They have alot of stories on Olds' 100th and the cover car is a
>Jetfire.  Anyway I'll 'reprint' some neat things from it from time to time.
>Here's the first cute article:
>==========================================================================
>Lyrics to "In My Merry Oldsmobile"
>
>Young Johnny Steele has an Oldsmobile
>He loves a dear little girl.
>She is the queen of his gas machine,
>She has his heart in a whirl.
>Now, when they go for a spin, you know,
>She tries to learn the auto, so,
>He lets her steer, while he gets her ear,
>And whispers soft and low.
>
>Come away with me Lucille,
>In my merry Oldsmobile.
>Down the road of life we'll fly,
>Automobubbling, you and I.
>To the church we'll swiftly steal,
>Then our wedding bells will peal,
>You can go as far as you like with me,
>In my merry Oldsmobile.
>
>Music by Gus Edwards,  Lyrics by Vincent Bryant
>
> ---
>| | | Brad Nicholson
>| | | 1987 442 W-42
>|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
>| | | Oldsmobile Club of America ª18984
> ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Chapter of OCA
>(W) brad.nicholson@ssa.gov   (H) brad442@erols.com
>Personal Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442
>OCC Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/occ
>OCA Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/oca
>
>
>
>.-NO MORE MAIL PLEASE!
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:45:03 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics

At 08:11 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>While in Lansing I picked up a free magazine @ the Quality Dairy, "Michigan
>Traveler".  They have alot of stories on Olds' 100th and the cover car is a
>Jetfire.  Anyway I'll 'reprint' some neat things from it from time to time.
>Here's the first cute article:
>==========================================================================
>Lyrics to "In My Merry Oldsmobile"
>
>Young Johnny Steele has an Oldsmobile
>He loves a dear little girl.
>She is the queen of his gas machine,
>She has his heart in a whirl.
>Now, when they go for a spin, you know,
>She tries to learn the auto, so,
>He lets her steer, while he gets her ear,
>And whispers soft and low.
>
>Come away with me Lucille,
>In my merry Oldsmobile.
>Down the road of life we'll fly,
>Automobubbling, you and I.
>To the church we'll swiftly steal,
>Then our wedding bells will peal,
>You can go as far as you like with me,
>In my merry Oldsmobile.
>
>Music by Gus Edwards,  Lyrics by Vincent Bryant
>
> ---
>| | | Brad Nicholson
>| | | 1987 442 W-42
>|/|\| 1994 Eighty Eight LSS
>| | | Oldsmobile Club of America ª18984
> ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - Chapter of OCA
>(W) brad.nicholson@ssa.gov   (H) brad442@erols.com
>Personal Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442
>OCC Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/occ
>OCA Web Page - http://www.erols/com/brad442/oca
>
>
>
>.-NO MORE MAIL PLEASE!
>
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:45:07 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: '68-'69 Olds Parts for sale

At 10:16 AM 8/28/97 -0400, you wrote:
>what    kind of motor and $ for it. Interested in rocket 350 or larger. let
>me know as soon as possible. Geo679@aol.com
>.-
>
>NO MORE MAIL PLEASE!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:45:12 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: '68-'69 Olds Parts for sale

At 10:16 AM 8/28/97 -0400, you wrote:
>what    kind of motor and $ for it. Interested in rocket 350 or larger. let
>me know as soon as possible. Geo679@aol.com
>.-
>
>NO More mailplease!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:45:17 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: '68-'69 Olds Parts for sale

At 10:16 AM 8/28/97 -0400, you wrote:
>what    kind of motor and $ for it. Interested in rocket 350 or larger. let
>me know as soon as possible. Geo679@aol.com
>.-
>No more mail!
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:45:20 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: Cars Not Seen at Lansing

At 10:15 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Actually, I'm pretty sure I did see one of these.  It WAS a Fiesta, and it
>was either a '59 or a '60, I'm not sure which.  It was on the road
>downtown that was lined with cars to show (the one running east-west)
>somewhere between the Rite Aid and the Tobacco shop.  It was white and
>looked original (unrestored or in the process of being restored).  Greg
>Pruett might remember more details.
>
>Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
>Clayton Pierce,
>zcwp11@Access.ETSU-Tn.Edu
>the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
>
>On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Brett J Lucas wrote:
>
>>
>> Here is another car that I did not see in Lansing.  A 1959 Olds Fiesta
>> Wagon.  My dad bought one in 1959 from the factory in Lansing....
>>
>> Brett
>>
>>
>
>.-No more mail please!
>
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:45:21 -0300
From: Al Atlas <ala@cruzio.com>
Subject: Re: In My Merry Oldsmobile - Lyrics

At 10:22 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>On Thu, 28 Aug 1997 brad.nicholson@ssa.gov wrote:
>
>> Lyrics to "In My Merry Oldsmobile"
>>
>> Come away with me Lucille,
>                    ^^^^^^
>AH YES!!!!  I knew I named my car right :-)
>
>
>> In my merry Oldsmobile.
>> Down the road of life we'll fly,
>> Automobubbling, you and I.
>> To the church we'll swiftly steal,
>> Then our wedding bells will peal,
>> You can go as far as you like with me,
>> In my merry Oldsmobile.
>>
>
>
>Peace, Goodwill, and Happy Oldsmobilling,
>Clayton Pierce and
>Lucille the 1984 Cutlass Supreme
>(350, 4bbl, TH375 (built), 2.41:1 open, 74k miles)
>who is now sporting a really cool ram rod 350 sticker from Mark
>Cornea on her breather.
>
>zcwp11@access.ETSU-Tn.Edu
>the_rocketeer@rocketmail.com
>
>.-
>          No more mail please!
>

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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:06:10 -0400
From: mrhell@m1.sprynet.com
Subject: So long for now but not goodbye

Hello all,

The wife and I are taking some R&R, (first real vacation in almost 4
years).  I'll be unsubscribing later tonight, but hope to come back on
the list in a week or so.

"Type" to you all later!  :)

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 00:38:57 -0400
From: "Kerr, Brian (R)" <Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com>
Subject: FW:Please forward to List Admin

 Could someone please forward this message to Greg B, as I have been unable
to access anything other than the list, and this is causing me some major
problems at work.
Thankyou
Brian Kerr
69 Cutlass S conv
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From: Wang, Louise T.
To: Kerr, Brian (R); Robinson, Darrin
Subject: stuck and non-deliverable  Internet messages to Toronto
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 12:31PM
Priority: High

Brian:

Please note that there are many Internet email messages
stuck in our Intermail machine and could not be delivered
or forwarded to your Ms Mail mailbox due to incorrect address.
Those non-deliverable Internet messages have been deleted
this morning.

Please inform your sender (oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca)
to correct your Internet address from
Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com  to Kerrb@basf.com
and then resend the email to you if necessary.

To test sending Internet email from your Ms Mail mailbox to an
Internal  Ms Mail Internet address at BASF Corp.,
the email user must set up the X.400 address as follows:

/c=us/a=telemail/p=basf/dda.type=rfc-822/dda.value=User_ID(a)basf.com

  where
  User_ID = your unique "User ID" (usually last name + first name initial)
            specified in the BASF Master Directory (BMD) or
            Corporate Phone Directory of Phoneline application,
            (e.g.  SmithJ(a)basf-corp.com)

  Note: Both basf.com and basf-corp.com will work, but basf.com is
preferred.
        Remember to change @ to (a).

So you could set up your test Internet address in your Personal Address Book
as follows then test sending email to that address:

/c=us/a=telemail/p=basf/dda.type=rfc-822/dda.value=Kerrb(a)basf.com

Please further questions or comments, please contact your local
Ms Mail Administrator - Darrin.  Thanks.


Darrin:

At your earliest convenience, would you please remind your email
users that the correct Internet address format is User_ID@basf.com

Hopefully, it will minimize the Internet mail failures.

An extracted copy of the stuck/non-deliverable Toronto Internet email
messages
is included below for your reference.

Any further comments or questions, please let me know.  Thanks.


Regards,
Louise Wang
Global Email Administrator at NTI/RP, BASF Corp.

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      toronto.basf-corp.com
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.21954-2               21 hrs, 55 mins
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                  to Jamie.Apfelbeck@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.22127-0               21 hrs, 53 mins
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                  to Dan.Harris@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.22414-0               21 hrs, 49 mins
                  from oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca (0)
                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.22811-2               21 hrs, 41 mins
                  from oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca (0)
                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.23098-0               21 hrs, 38 mins
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.23712-0               21 hrs, 31 mins
                  from oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca (0)
                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.23988-2               21 hrs, 27 mins
                  from chris.cullen@stoneweb.com (0)
                  to John.Salchli@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.24985-2               21 hrs, 14 mins
                  from oldsmobile-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca (0)
                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.25034-1               21 hrs, 14 mins
                  from Daniel_Scott4@xn.xerox.com (0)
                  to Andrew.Carkner@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
            msg.25195-1               21 hrs, 11 mins
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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                  to Brian.Kerr@toronto.basf-corp.com (1) pend
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