
oldsmobile-digest      Friday, September 12 1997      Volume 01 : Number 843



455 Rebuild Parts
Re: 455 Rebuild Parts
70 442 parts needed
Re: UNBOUNCE: Re: Tire Size 
Getting Published
Re: 8 Track player question
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #842
403 Carb on 455
Re: MUFFLERS
Re: UHV system
More on mufflers
Re: 455 Rebuild Parts
Re: 455 Rebuild Parts
Re: wanted: ram air
ADMIN: Attn. Digest Subscribers
Re: 8 Track player question
Re: Olds sale
Re: 455 Rebuild Parts
Re: Rough Idle Question
Re: Oldsmobile Wheels
Re: U-joint Strap for '70 SX
Re: Rough Idle Question
'67 Cutlass Supreme Convertible  for sale/ good price
questions
Duals on Delta 88....
Rockit talk
My visit to Lansing
Re: 1958 Olds 88 (fwd)
Needed - 61 98 interior light lenses
Re: Testing Heater Cores?
test
Power window switch - 61 98
Re: new to list
Re: advice on purchasing '70 442
Olds Aluminum Heads
Oldses FS in Gainesville, FL
RE: 70 Rallye Info Needed!!!
funny looking bracket
Re: 455 Rebuild Parts

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:21:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: 455 Rebuild Parts

Am rebuilding a '70 455 to install into my '68 442.  Any recomendations as to
parts suppliers for the needed hard parts--pistons, bearings, gasket sets
etc.?  I realize that Brothers/YO/Fusick carry this stuff,  but at "boutique"
prices. Same Mondello.

Any engine builders out there who can point me in the right direction?

Coupe King
San Pedro, CA

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:50:38 -0700
From: Erik Nowacki <enowacki@titan.com>
Subject: Re: 455 Rebuild Parts

At 04:21 PM 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Am rebuilding a '70 455 to install into my '68 442.  Any recomendations as to
>parts suppliers for the needed hard parts--pistons, bearings, gasket sets
>etc.?  I realize that Brothers/YO/Fusick carry this stuff,  but at "boutique"
>prices. Same Mondello.
>
>Any engine builders out there who can point me in the right direction?
>
>Coupe King
>San Pedro, CA
>
>
I recently rebuilt a 68 455 for my VC.  I got the Performer intake from
Summit, the cam and oil restrictors from Mondello, the rest came from PAW.
I was pleased with the speed and service I got from these vendors.  I got
the right parts in the first delivery, no problems.

Parts wise, the project set me back about $900.

Good luck with the build.

Erik Nowacki
San Diego
72 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:29:30 -0400
From: Ed Burger <eburger@sagelink.com>
Subject: 70 442 parts needed

    I jsut brought home my new (to me, anyway) '70 442.  It needs a
couple of parts someone around here might have:

front grille (left and right sides)
rear bumper
any rubber door/window seal pieces
steering wheel (either a black '70 wheel or the Ralley wheel)

It probably needs some other stuff too, so if you have any '70 442
parts, please email me.

Thanks,
Ed

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:28:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Olds8873@aol.com
Subject: Re: UNBOUNCE: Re: Tire Size 

Hey Gary.......My 1968 OldsDelta88 had  Hx78x14 as standard equipment....psi
being 28lbs for the rear and 30psi for the front. They recommend jx78x14 as
optional, I would imagine the same for the early 60's as well.    


Olds8873

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:29:26 -0400
From: tgstoner@umich.edu
Subject: Getting Published

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Mike Rothe wrote:
> I'm curious to know, is there anyone else out there who's had stuff
> published either in magazines, videos, articles, etc.?  I'm sure there
> is.  Too much knowledge on this list.

*************************

Mike,

If you've been an OCA member for 10 years or more, check out your copy of
the February, 1988 issue of JWO for my article "The Aerotech Story -
Chapter 3", or the October, 1988 issue for my artilces "Oldsmobile Team
Makes Extra Effort" and "American Challenge at Watkins Glen".  There were
other Oldsmobile racing articles and reports on Hurst/Olds Club activities
which I sent to Dennis during that era and which he published, but those
are the only ones which I have copies of in my files here at work.

Also, in 1991 I moonlighted as a writer and photographer for Goodwrench
Racing Reports and traveled to several NASCAR Winston Cup and Busch Grand
National races with Dale Earnhardt and the Richard Childress Racing team.
That publication was not widely distributed outside of General Motors and
select GM dealerships, but I also shot one of the photographs which was
used on the cover sleeve of the 1991 season review video cassette which was
sold from the Goodwrench souvineer trailers the next year, so I know that
there many copies of that picture still out there in the world.  I still
have one or two tapes around somewhere which contain all the car to pits
communications by Earnhardt during races which I attended (I hooked a
VOX-equipped microcassette recorder to my headset radio), which have some
interesting exchanges.  And lots of photos and negatives.

Just bragging a bit, I guess  . . .

Tom Stoner
Oldsmobile Club of America #3943
Ann Arbor, MI
tgstoner@umich.edu

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:32:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8 Track player question

Thanks for the information on the 8 track setup! I followed all of the steps
you said! It works! The only thing that bugs me is the wood trim. It's for a
71 and my car is a 70. Thanks a lot!

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:17:36 -0400
From: WALKERJIM@webtv.net (Jim Walker)
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #842

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:24:03 -0700
From: Erik Nowacki <enowacki@titan.com>
Subject: 403 Carb on 455

Hi All,

	I just spoke to my carburetor shop (I'm not quite comfortable fiddling
with carbs yet) and they told me that the later Q-jets were significantly
improved and more tunable.

	The root of the problem is that I switched to an Edelbrock Performer
intake, which left me without any way to hook up the choke tubes on the
carb.  I now have to rev it for a couple of minutes every morning (thus my
previous post re: MUFFLERS) to my neighbors great amusement.

	The carb shop suggested that I get a Q-jet from a late 70's 403 and have
it re-jetted and equipped with an electric choke.  Is this a good way to go
or will the smog
equipped carb run out of breath on my slightly modified 455?

TIA

Erik Nowacki
San Diego
72 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:17:31 -0700
From: Erik Nowacki <enowacki@titan.com>
Subject: Re: MUFFLERS

Hi all,

	The H-pipe seems to have done the trick.  It really took the edge off the
sound.  I am quite pleased with the resulting low rumble.  If my financial
expert and neighbors start to complain, I will have to look at the Super
Turbo mufflers, but for now I think I'll leave the Terminators in there.
Thanks all for your assistance.

Erik Nowacki
San Diego
72 Vista Cruiser

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: ClancyErbs@aol.com
Subject: Re: UHV system

Jim,

Just wanted to let you know that I shipped those parts off Tuesday.  I was
pleased to hear they were the finishing touch for your car.  It's good to
know these rare pieces are going to a good home instead of siiting in my
garage gathering dust.  I also included some info I had copied from a 68
Motor manual and marked the wires on the diagram as I took them from the
motor.  Hope it aids your installation.

I too am looking forward to receiving those moldings.  They will really
compliment my car.  They will be installed on my 72 Cutlass Supreme.  I also
own a 70 442 with the W-25 setup 455 A/T console, A/C, and a 69 Cutlass
convertible.  All cars are slated for restoration and if all goes well on
this deal I hope to look to you for future parts needs.

I also told a friend I'd ask if you know where he might find a black 4 speed
console for his 70 442 and again whether or not you have a horn button for a
70 - 72 sport steering wheel.

Thanks!  Mike Erb

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:04:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: More on mufflers

I have been reading the muffler posts, and have two things to contribute.
First, I had Flowmasters on my '92 GMC dually, and they were LOUD with a
capital "L". In fact, they resonated thru the camper shell and were
intolerable. True, it did make a world of difference in throttle response,
but I couldn't handle the noise level. 

Secondly, I just got my new Car Craft, and there is an ad in there for
Flowpath mufflers. They claim to flow better than Flowmaster and to be within
1 decibel as quiet as Dynomax. Anyone have any experience with them???

Jon Wessel

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:20:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: CarrDuff@aol.com
Subject: Re: 455 Rebuild Parts

In a message dated 97-09-11 16:27:44 EDT, you write:

<< Subj:	 455 Rebuild Parts
 
 Am rebuilding a '70 455 to install into my '68 442.  Any recomendations as
to
 parts suppliers for the needed hard parts--pistons, bearings, gasket sets
 etc.?  I realize that Brothers/YO/Fusick carry this stuff,  but at
"boutique"
 prices. Same Mondello.
 
 Any engine builders out there who can point me in the right direction?
 
 Coupe King
 San Pedro, CA
  >>


  I have just rebuilt the 455 for my 71 442 W30 Conv..  I also checked out
Mondello, whose prices were just out of my budget.  I ended up getting all my
parts @ Performance Parts Warehouse (PAW) (818)998-6000. They are located in
Chatsworth, California.

  They do sell engine Kits, but I ordered several performance parts, Crower
cam, 70 spec. pistons, double roller timming chain parts and a HV oil pump.
 My total bill was around $ 550.00.  This was probably the best price I got
when shopping. All other parts I had already purchased locally.  If you order
make sure they send you a catalog which is about 800 pages thick.

Good Luck,

Steve Dietrich
  S/E PA
     71 442 W30 Conv.

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:20:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: CarrDuff@aol.com
Subject: Re: 455 Rebuild Parts

In a message dated 97-09-11 16:27:44 EDT, you write:

<< Subj:	 455 Rebuild Parts
 
 Am rebuilding a '70 455 to install into my '68 442.  Any recomendations as
to
 parts suppliers for the needed hard parts--pistons, bearings, gasket sets
 etc.?  I realize that Brothers/YO/Fusick carry this stuff,  but at
"boutique"
 prices. Same Mondello.
 
 Any engine builders out there who can point me in the right direction?
 
 Coupe King
 San Pedro, CA
  >>


  I have just rebuilt the 455 for my 71 442 W30 Conv..  I also checked out
Mondello, whose prices were just out of my budget.  I ended up getting all my
parts @ Performance Parts Warehouse (PAW) (818)998-6000. They are located in
Chatsworth, California.

  They do sell engine Kits, but I ordered several performance parts, Crower
cam, 70 spec. pistons, double roller timming chain parts and a HV oil pump.
 My total bill was around $ 550.00.  This was probably the best price I got
when shopping. All other parts I had already purchased locally.  If you order
make sure they send you a catalog which is about 800 pages thick.

Good Luck,

Steve Dietrich
  S/E PA
     71 442 W30 Conv.

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:21:35 -0400
From: Al Barlow <iamoz@ime.net>
Subject: Re: wanted: ram air

At 11:05 PM 9/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
> hi guys im looking for a 71-72 original ram air hood
>
Try this if you are really desparate. They want $1600 for the hood. I have
been looking for an original 71/72 OAI hood for quite some time but am not
willing to spend that kind of money. Their E-Mail is: IkanAuto@aol.com and
their phone is: 253-475-2624. I think their located in Washington state.
Good Luck.

Al Barlow
1971 Olds 442 Convertible
1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme Convertible (parts car)
Thomaston, Maine

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:40:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: ADMIN: Attn. Digest Subscribers

For some reason, the last few days some digest members have been posting
messages to the address "oldsmobile-digest@chebucto.ns.ca". This is
incorrect and annoys other members. The digest is configured to return
replies to the address "oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca" but I suspect a few
digest members may be selecting the wrong option in their mail software
when they reply. 

Please ensure that your replies go to the oldsmobile address, not the 
digest. Thanks!

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:38:46 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: 8 Track player question

DROLDS350@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the information on the 8 track setup! I followed all of the steps
> you said! It works! The only thing that bugs me is the wood trim. It's for a
> 71 and my car is a 70. Thanks a lot!

I sold my extra '71/'72 unit at last year's Nationals in Atlanta.  Maybe
someone on the list has a '70 for parts/for sale that they'd be willing
to swap faceplates on.  I'd have switched with you had I not already
sold mine, sorry.

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:40:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Olds8873@aol.com
Subject: Re: Olds sale

Hey Frank....Do you have any old vacuum controlled cruise controls available?
Please reply....thanks.

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:22:04 -0700
From: "Forrest Johnson" <johnson@edisongroup.com>
Subject: Re: 455 Rebuild Parts

COUPEKING@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Am rebuilding a '70 455 to install into my '68 442.  Any recomendations as to
> parts suppliers for the needed hard parts--pistons, bearings, gasket sets

> Coupe King
> San Pedro, CA


I rebuilt both a 455 and a 350 this year.  I made an effort to get to
know the locally owned parts store.  Great guys to talk with.  When it
came time to buy parts, they turned out to beat everyone else, hands
down.  Some parts were less, some were more, but the less was worth 
keeping the $$$ at home.

just something to keep in mind,

Forrest Johnson

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:01:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Wong <brougham@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: Rough Idle Question

Hi Mike,

> I have a rough idle in my '78 Delta 88 (350/TH350) and it hesitates
> during gentle acceleration.  The exhaust makes a lumping sound, but I
> have not touched the exhaust one bit.  It is a little low on power,
> seems like when I want to get on the freeway it is not pulling the
> advance it needs.  I use 89 and 92 octane gasoline.

I've noticed that when the spark is too retarded (such as when a vacuum
advance unit has failed), the exhaust note takes on a deeper, throbbing
character at low engine speeds, since ignition occurs closer to when the
exhaust valve opens.  The vacuum advance unit is primarily for fuel
economy and doesn't come into play during WOT operation, so the failure of
this device should not decrease the maximum power output of the engine.
On the other hand, it would make light throttle driving more responsive.
In my observation, a disconnected vacuum advance shouldn't induce a
hesitation, but this would be dependent on spark timing, idle speed, etc.

BTW, is your '78 350 completely stock?  It should be able to run just fine
on 87 octane fuel.  I just recurved the distributor on a friend's '77 350.
He claimed he had to use premium (92 octane) only.  The engine now feels
more responsive, does not ping (even with the EGR disconnected), all 
while consuming 87 octane fuel (a savings of ~$6 Cdn per tankful over 92).

Kevin Wong       mailto:brougham@geocities.com       Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:36:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Olds8873@aol.com
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Wheels

Absolutely, Joe.............I have a 1973 98 & I've got baby moons with chevy
chrome reverse's on it...!!

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:18:18 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: U-joint Strap for '70 SX

 This sounds similar to the problem I had when transplanting a 70 GTO
rearend into my 69. The cutlass U joint wouldn't nest fully into the pinion
yoke and it seemed to be narrower then the original cutlass pinion yoke. The
result was, I couldn't get it fully engaged. Took out the GTO pinion yoke
and figured I would have to machine about .7mm off each side for clearance.
Turned out that the yoke was so filled with crud and rust, that it looked
like solid metal. Once I figured this out it was easy to clean up the yoke,
and Voila, the u-joint matched right up. don't know if this is your problem
or not but it sure struck a cord. I was stumped as to why the parts only
seemed to "almost" fit up.
Hope this is of some help.

Mick Gillespie, Columbus, Indiana
69 Cutlass S convertible
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

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From: Robert Barry <RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Sunday, September 07, 1997 11:36 PM
Subject: Q: U-joint Strap for '70 SX



>The (one) original u-bolt that holds the u-joint to the rear pinion is too
>corroded to use, but I can't seem to find the proper replacements. I got a
>pair yesterday, but the nuts aren't engaging fully on the bolt. Does anyone
>have a manufacturer and part # for one of these U-bolts, or good luck
>replacing them with a U-bolt designed for something else?
>_______________________________________________________
>Dr. Robert Barry  MailTo:RBarry@Sequent1.Providence.Edu
>Theology Dept, Providence College, Providence, RI 02918

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:00:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Olds8873@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rough Idle Question

mike....one other thing I forgot to mention is your vacuum lines, the most
troubling one being the vacuum to the transmission . How is the tranny
shifting?


Olds8873

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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:03:35 -0400
From: "jake" <jake@ezo.net>
Subject: '67 Cutlass Supreme Convertible  for sale/ good price

           A friend's son was recently married and must sell his pride and
joy.....If you can help him out or pass on the info to another it would be
greatly appreciated.   			            	1967 Cutlass Supreme Convertible   
80% restored                                                               
                          Runs excellent		Lots of new parts,too many to
list          					 $4995 obo     call Chris Beavers at (330) 493-9391   
thanks 

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:09:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: questions

how about some info on reverse lockout linkage   i have a1970 cutlass that
needs one. i picked one up at a swap meet and am now trying to install it
   .also  i want my back up lights to work assumming the lights are in order
is there a backup light switch and where would it be  DOES THE CLUTCH SAFETY
SWITCH NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO MAKE THE BACK UP LIGHTS WORK/ ALSO THERE ARE 2
WIRES THAT GO TO THE CLUTCH SWITCH A PINK AND A YELLOW WIRE CAN ANY ONE TELL
ME WHAT WIRE GOES WHERE OR DOESNT IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE?

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:13:07 -0400
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Duals on Delta 88....

Hi all,

I know that this topic has been discussed many times, but I need a
little info on the finer aspects:

I'd like to add dual exhausts to my '78 Delta 88, which I know is
possible...I just don't know how.  Would I have to install a new
cross-member, or could I notch the existing one?  I took a close look at
the existing one, and the floorboards seem to be sculpted to accomodate
the single pipe.  That pretty much rules out a dual-hump
cross-member...(which rules out *true* duals)

Instead of running true duals, could I get the same type of deep-throat
sound out of false duals, such as splitting the single pipe into dual
behind the catalytic?  I want the car fairly loud...that's whats
prompting me to do this little project.  If I were to split the pipe
after the catalytic (or x-mem.) and run 2.5 or 3" duals back (with twin
Flowmaster's) would I get a nice, low sound from the Rocket 350?

What kind of cash would I be looking at to do this?  Yes, I know
Flowmasters are pricey, but I want a good (and free-flowing) muffler. 
Including the stainless steel pipe, what would it be worth?

The brake sys. overhaul is coming along great!  The ONLY thing I haven't
replaced is the master cylinder....don't want to, can't afford to,
either.

Any advice would be appreciated!  It doesn't seem right to have a 350
Rocket breathing through a 2" single exhaust.

Dave Ward

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)  => almost road-ready
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)  => daily driver
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)  => winter driver

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:21:49 -0500
From: Tom Williams <tjwilli@Megavision.com>
Subject: Rockit talk

Hi all,
    I was just curious to see if anyone is getting on rocket talk
lately? If so what nights and at what time is everyone getting on.

Thanks,
Tom Williams
1970W-31

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:32:17 -0400
From: "bill" <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Subject: My visit to Lansing

Sorry for being so late on my short observations.

I had a great time at Lansing.  I was on the 4th floor in the Radisson in
the front so I and my family could see the activity during the parade and
other events.

Wednesday was just awsome as I was on the street level and watched the
caravan pull in.  It was something to see as the cars were lined up to come
in with their headlights on - it just seemed to grow and grow.

The Saturday parade was too long almost.  After a while, if someone had
slipped in another brand of car, some people might not have noticed it.  50
curved dashes parading in front was something we will probably never see
again.

I knew the Hurst and muscle cars of the late 60s and early 70s would be
popular but the number of 49-50s surprised me to no end.  As I have a 1961,
I was disappointed that I only saw about 7 of them.  There should have been
at least a few hundred of them.

Found a couple of parts for the 61 but was not able to buy for the 50 and
56 at this time.

Excuse my ramblings.

Bill Pritchett
lewman@mindpulse.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:34:56 -0400
From: "bill" <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Subject: Re: 1958 Olds 88 (fwd)

Also, note that they have a web site but since my hard disk crashed I do
not have its address.

Bill Pritchett
lewman@mindpulse.com

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> From: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> To: Lewman
> Subject: Re: 1958 Olds 88 (fwd)
> Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 11:02 AM
> 
> 
> Regarding Rebuild part for Olds engine:
> 
> Recently came across USA Parts supply in VA (703) 335-1935.
> Ordered their 1941-1975 Olds Catalog, which is quite complete.
> Their prices seem good too.
> 
> Gary Andresen
> 
> 
> Chris Brown Witt wrote:
> > 
> > Hope one of you can assist this lady.
> > I told her the usual: Join OCA, get a Hemming's, write to Olds history
Center
> > [forgot the address though]. Consult the FAQ. Sent her Franklin Graf's
ad from
> > the latest JWO- he does 50's Rocket motors.
> > 
> > What else can we do for her? Give her a nice welcome email if you can,
eh?
> > 
> > > We've just purchased a 1958 Olds 88 that our teen-age son wants to
> > > restore.  It is in good shape body-wise, but we've pulled the
> > > motor/transmission.  Supposedly it is a 271?  and we haven't found
> > > anyone that has a reuild kit or parts to fit.  We thought maybe we
would
> > > just replace.  Can this motor be made to run and is it really
> > > expensive.  We though we would be better off changing it to something
> > > more popular so parts would be readily available.    Anyway I'm
trying
> > > to find out info.  Please help a worried mom!
> > >
> > > Also how can I get information on how many of these cars are known to
> > > exist today?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.  This is my work e-mail.  If you would prefer
to
> > > send a message to my hom it is RStan14950aol.com.
> > >  Thanks, Jean Stanley
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > Chris  B. Witt
> > *the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
> > wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:54:02 -0400
From: "bill" <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Subject: Needed - 61 98 interior light lenses

On the way out to Lansing, my son reached up to turn the interior light on
and the plastic lens cover cracked due to old age.  These are the lenses
that are on either side of the car just behind the front seat in the
headliner.  I have a 61 98 sport sedan (4 door hardtop).

Mike Fusick does not have them.  Does anyone know if Buick, Pontiac,
Cadillac, or Chevrolet used these same lenses?

Thanks for the help.  I will be looking at Carlise and Hershey.

Bill Pritchett
lewman@mindpulse.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:50:54 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Testing Heater Cores?

 You need to test the core pressurized with air at 20 PSI (roughly) While
pressurized, put it under water. It shouldn't leak more than 5cc per minute.
This is about one small bubble every 3-4 seconds. A more accurate way is to
catch the bubbles in a graduated beaker. The amount of water displaced by
the bubbles of air can be read off the beaker graduations.
If you get a larger leak and can see where it comes from, it can easilly be
repaired with regular lead/tin solder and a good flux.

Mick Gillespie, Columbus, Indiana
69 Cutlass S convertible
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Fair <cfair@fairisaac.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 10:27 PM
Subject: Testing Heater Cores?



>
>
>Does anyone know a good way to pressure test a heater core? Mine started
>leaking today and I have one in the garage, but I recall that it leaked
>too. Is there a good way to pressure test one out of the car? I mean short
>of pulling it out, starting the motor, getting it warm and waiting for it
>to spray?
>
>headed for a radiator shop I guess...
>cf
>

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:03:50 -0500
From: Tom Williams <tjwilli@Megavision.com>
Subject: test

test

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:01:25 -0400
From: "bill" <lewman@mindpulse.com>
Subject: Power window switch - 61 98

Also, forgot to add, anyone know of a source for a power window switch for
my 1961.

Bill Pritchett
lewman@mindpulse.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:11:55 -0500
From: "M&D Gillespie" <mgillespie@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: new to list

 Welcome,
Glad to see another 69 convertible on the list. I love mine too.

Mick Gillespie, Columbus, Indiana
69 Cutlass S convertible
mgillespie@sprynet.com
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mgillespie/oldspage.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: ClancyErbs@aol.com <ClancyErbs@aol.com>
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca <oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: new to list



>Hello everyone!  Wanted to take a moment and say hello.  My husband Mike
and
>I are new to this list and he is the Oldsmobile enthusiast and I tolerate
it
>:)
>He is an autobodyman and painter so we have lots of Oldsmobiles sitting in
>our yard!  My last threat to him was that before he can buy anymore "fixer
>uppers" that he has to get rid of something so what does he do?!  He buys
me
>my first Oldsmobile, a beautiful 1969 cutlass convertable with only 70,000
>original miles.  Its gorgeous and he did not have to get rid of anything! I
>tend to be much more tolerant now.  Anyways, MY car is a cherry and I plan
on
>keeping it original (like Mike would give me a choice) but I would like to
>get a radio with FM (mine is only AM).  Let me know if there is one
available
>out there!  Oh by the way, Mikes cars consist of a 1970 442, 1972 Cutlass,
>1972 Vista Cruiser, and 1971 Cutlass.  AND lots of miscellaneous parts
>throughout my basement and his garage!  We enjoy reading through these
>letters and now if I could just teach Mike to type he'd be able to join you
>all!
>
>Judy
>

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:16:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: advice on purchasing '70 442

maybe; carb,air cleaner,intake,   what does it have now?,  steven.
w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:26:54 -0700
From: "Forrest Johnson" <johnson@edisongroup.com>
Subject: Olds Aluminum Heads

Follows is the info I have gathered from the Edelbrock BBS (
http://www.edelbrock.com/ ) regarding the Aluminum Heads. 
Posted on Edelbrock's  BBS

Fri Feb 21 10:27:20 PST 1997

T.Gabel, T., thanks for your nice comments. Here are the current
nomenclature per Edelbrock's #6052 Oldsmobile Aluminum Heads: similar to
factory 455 "C" castings; no heat crossover; 2.072 intakes and 1.680
exhaust valves (spread approximately .050); updated intakes and exhaust
ports; adequate material for race porting; 75cc combustion chamber;
relocate spark plug closer to exhaust valve; raise exhaust port floor to
remove "dead" area; maintain a minimum of 1.800 installed spring height
and possible change from shaft to stud rocker valve train. Oldsmobile
350's like 70 cc chambers, 455's like 80cc: 75cc splits the difference.
Thanks, Ralph.

Wed Jul 23 13:58:32 PDT 1997

Ken Snyder, Hi Ken. We are going to make a Performer RPM style
Oldsmobile head. We are in the developing stages, it probably won't
happen until the spring or summer of 1998 for production. Joe Mondello,
Mr. Oldsmobile, or Dr. Oldsmobile is communicating with us on this. The
heads will have the 455 large intake port, and yes, they will fit t he
350 block, but it's going to be a combustion chamber volume question and
etc. You can direct your inquiries directly to me. Thank you for your
inquiry. We're glad to be of help...Smitty.


A later mail describes the heads as 77cc.  I am still waiting for
updated specs and an approximate price.

Forrest  Johnson
Johnson@edisongroup.com
Fjohnson@intervoice.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:25:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Peg O'Connor" <peg@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: Oldses FS in Gainesville, FL

Hi guys --

Just FYI, in today's Gainesville Sun, the following are for sale:

Olds 98, 1977.  Auto, AC, power brakes and power windows.  Beige interior.
Nice-looking car.  Must see to appreciate.  $700 negotiable.
352-379-8093.

Olds Cutlass Supream [ed note:  obviously this person is *not* an
Olds lover :)] 1986. 2DR, V8, AC, 114K miles, great
condition.  Priced to sell now at $1900.  352-336-2229.

Olds Delta 88 1983.  V8, auto, AC, well-maintained, recent paint, great
condition.  $2500/best offer.  352-466-4841.

Olds Omega 1978.  Runs and looks good.  AC broken.  $425.  Chris.
352-376-8291 leave message.

If anyone has interest in these cars, I can go check 'em out for you.

8)
peg
'78 Cutlass Calais (Red Mine)
'86 Cutlass Supreme (Grey Mine)

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:41:37 -0600 (MDT)
From: bhorn@tnc.com (Beverley Horn)
Subject: RE: 70 Rallye Info Needed!!!

Was that car that they tested in the 1/4 mile a 4 speed or an automatic?,
And what was the rear-end in the car they tested?

Shayne Horn
70 Rallye350





>I have a report on the Rallye 350 for Car Life Road Test from May 1970.
>It reported a ¼ time of 15.27 at 94.33 MPH.  The 0-60 time was 7.0 sec.
>The engine is a 350 ci 310 hp 390 torque at 3200 rpm. The base price was
>$3253 and the tested price was $3814. 
>
>Options were:
>
>Rear deck spoiler    $74
>Heavy Duty radiator $21
>Power Disk Brakes $64
>Power Steering $105
>Radio $70
>Anti-Spin Axle $42 
>(3.42:1) Standard with the 4 speed 
>Four-Speed transmission  (M-21) $185
>Tires were G70-14 fiberglass bias belted
>
>You could get the 3.91:1 (G88) with the 4-speed also.
>
>The 2.78:1 was standard for the automatic and could be ordered with the
>following:
>
>2.56:1 (G96)
>2.78:1 (std)
>3.08:1 (G90)
>3.23:1 (G91)
>3.42:1 (G92)
>3.91:1 (G88)
>
>Now a story. I have a friend (Paul) who brought a 70 Rallye 350 in 1970.
>I brought a 70 442 4-speed. He was always wanting to race the 442. I
>don't know why we never did, we were young and crazy. Anyway, I told him
>I would take him for a ride in the 442 and if he still wanted to race we
>would go get his Rallye 350. We went to the on-ramp of I-20 and let it
>go. This car had no air, not many options and would run in the low 14s
>and high 13s around 102 to 104 MPH. It may not seem like a lot, but Paul
>never did want to race the 442.
>
>I like the Rally 350 and would like to have one also. Paul and I are
>still friends and I would love to drive over to his house and let him
>drive it. Maybe we could even have that race.
>
>
>Bobby
>
>70 442 Escape Back to the....Past
>
>See my present 442 and the above 442 at:
>
>http://home1.gte.net/betzel/BE.html  
>
>
>
>
>	-----Original Message-----
>	From:	bhorn@tnc.com [SMTP:bhorn@tnc.com]
>	Sent:	Thursday, September 11, 1997 1:18 AM
>	To:	oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>	Subject:	Re: 70 Rallye Info Needed!!!
>
>
>	Were the Rallye's fast cars? How were they for performance? Does
>anyone have
>	1/4 mile times or anything? I have a Rallye350 that I just
>bought. I t has a
>	4 speed Hurst in it...I think that was stock. And I would like
>to know what
>	kind of rear end was on it? Anyone know? 
>
>	Shayne Horn
>	70 Rallye350
>

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:43:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: funny looking bracket

R C Hellebuyck
  This funny looking bracket you are looking for is a 'relay bellcrank
bracket' group 3.885 pt# 406876 fit 70-72  Cutlass V-8 4 bbl.
   I have this bracket NOS  $25.00 includes priority mail. You can let me
know if you still need it via private e-mail. I take credit cards.

Everett  OCA#1961   1961 Starfire

   PS
    I also have that 'nipple' you are looking for except its on a 71 455
manual transmission intake manifold. I cant seperate them, I'm sure you
understand.

Thanks   Everett

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:05:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Olds8873@aol.com
Subject: Re: 455 Rebuild Parts

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PAW is probably the best and only supplier you should consider.I've had good
luck with them & I've heard great things froms co-horts about them.



Olds8873
W L Taylor 
1973 Olds Delta 88 Convt.

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