
oldsmobile-digest      Monday, September 15 1997      Volume 01 : Number 847



no more mail
1987 Olds 442 parts
Re: E-400 motor
Re: Dr. Olds posters
Re: Dr. Olds posters
Chicago-near 455 recently?
442/Cutlasses
Re: W-MACHINES QUESTION
vendor problems
Re: wanted: 394 4V intake
troubleshooting
HEMI Olds?
Edelbrock Intake
Re: Olds sale
Re: HEMI Olds?
Trying to Find
Re: Edelbrock Intake
Re: Olds in Europe
NZ-403
UNBOUNCE: Trying to Find (71 Delta door panels)
UNBOUNCE: 1987 Olds 442 Parts
Re: Al's 71 W30 hood
Re: O.C.A. why join?
Re: Oldsmobile Division Thank you
Re: 70-72 OAI Base
Re: O.C.A.  why join?
Re: Al's 71 W30 hood
Re: RS parts cars
Re: Edelbrock Intake
Re: Oldsmobile Division Thank you
1971 Cutlass rear bumper  FS
Olds cars for sale
A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!
Octane Ratings
A better mechanical fuel pump
Re: NZ-403
Re: A better mechanical fuel pump
Re: Edelbrock Intake
'78 D-88 Parts Car?
ADULT SITE ACTION...free time..no sign-up.,.,,,.,
(`80 Cutlass) My latest set of wheels. 
Re: Edelbrock Intake
Re: HEMI Olds?
Re: (`80 Cutlass) My latest set of wheels.
Re: A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!
Re: A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!
So many Olds, so little time
86 Olds Cutlass
Parts for RC
Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale
Re: advice on purchasing '70 442
Re: 70-72 OAI Base
Re: A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!
Re: Edelbrock Intake
Re: 86 Olds Cutlass
Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:38:17 -0400
From: Paul Hoppel <p.hoppel@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: no more mail

please do not send me anymore mail

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 21:46:26 -0400
From: Steve Ochs <Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com>
Subject: 1987 Olds 442 parts

I am looking for the following parts for my 1987 442.  I need an original
carburetor (the air horn on mine is distorted).  It is a Rochester
Quadrajet #17086009.
I also am looking for mint wheels (chrome/gold).  Mine are cosmetically
excellent but I have at least one bent one.
Finally, I still see SPAM showing up in the Digest???  Obviously closing
the list didn't solve this problem????

Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma Plant
Transmission Division (4T60/65-E) - Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com
The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division

'97 Chevy Blazer LT 4x4 4.3L V6    '96 DCM Impala SS 5.7L V8 
'87 Olds Cutlass 442 307 V8        '61 GMC 1500 Fleetside 305 V6  

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:00:34 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: E-400 motor

Chris Brown Witt wrote:
 
> On the E-400 motor, Jim Chermack writes:
> -They rev higher than any other BB...

E-400???  Uhhhh, that's an Edsel motor.  Did someone change my
subsciption to the Edsel list? :)

Paul
- -- 
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 97 21:11:28 PDT
From: "chris smetana" <chris@abcs.com>
Subject: Re: Dr. Olds posters

> > Are these the same ones that Year One has in their catalog???
>                                                 ^^^^^^^Oops!  I guess that
> should say Supercars Unlimited.

Would explain why I couldn't find them in the Year One catalog.

Yep, them's the ones.  And they are cheaper too.  The lady at the RE Olds museum said they were the 'officially licensed reproducer' of these posters, or something like that.  Actually I remember looking through my Supercars catalog AFTER buying them and realizing oops.  Oh well, I did buy them at the RE Olds museum though :-)

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
chris@abcs.com

1969 W-31
plus others

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 97 21:11:28 PDT
From: "chris smetana" <chris@abcs.com>
Subject: Re: Dr. Olds posters

> > Are these the same ones that Year One has in their catalog???
>                                                 ^^^^^^^Oops!  I guess that
> should say Supercars Unlimited.

Would explain why I couldn't find them in the Year One catalog.

Yep, them's the ones.  And they are cheaper too.  The lady at the RE Olds museum said they were the 'officially licensed reproducer' of these posters, or something like that.  Actually I remember looking through my Supercars catalog AFTER buying them and realizing oops.  Oh well, I did buy them at the RE Olds museum though :-)

Chris Smetana
Terre Haute, IN
chris@abcs.com

1969 W-31
plus others

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:22:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Chicago-near 455 recently?

Am I going nuts, or was I not about to get a 455 from somwhere near Chicago
just before the Centennial? In a guy's shed... there were 3-4 of us clamoring
for it... cannot find any hint of that email now.

If it's still there, I'm still interested, if not, I'd like to be able to write
it off. Whoever it was, please email me? Or, if your old digests have it in
there? Most of it was private email.

T'anks
- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:29:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 442/Cutlasses

Just a case of myths run amok again! Every 68 and 69 442 has a 336
data plate. The story about "running out of 442 bodies so they had to
use Cutlass ones" is not true!!!!!!
John Pajak

[[ Well, actually, I have seen 1 or 2 Canadian built 68-9 Cutlasses where not
only did the body tag match the VIN series-wise, but I think the body
sequential number matched the VIN s.n. also...
- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:34:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cnvrtbl442@aol.com
Subject: Re: W-MACHINES QUESTION

In a message dated 97-09-13 00:11:01 EDT, you write:

<< Hello! I have a 1970 Cutlass w31. It has a manual transmission. On the
sales
 sheet it says that the car was equipped with a manual trans 3 speed. My
 question is how many 70 w31's were made with the manual 3 spd trans? The car
 now has a four speed in it and I was just wondering if a 3 spd is rare.
 Thanks!
 
 DROLDS350@aol.com
  >>
It probably is pretty rare that it was an original three speed. HEY
  JUST THOUGHT OF THIS>>>>I have a three speed in a car thats
 suppose to be a four speed.  We oughta switch..............TIM

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:42:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: vendor problems

as for vendor problems...

I agree that if there are any delays, known, anticipated or not, they MUST be
up front about that. It could make all the differnce- oftentimes one would
gladly pay more for fast service, other times, $ is the issue, no matter how
long it takes.

I waited over 6 months to get 030 pistons for my 330 motor back in '79 or so,
from JCWhitney. But, no one else had them even listed... so I waited. They did
keep sending me notices that the backorder was extended again. Finally, I wrote
to say, $ back sportsfans, THEN the pistons showed up. After that, they
discontinued them, and it was 10 years before I saw anyone else offering 330
pistons.

And, from a vendor point of view, albeit very small scale, it's really hard to
get the parts, get 'em boxed, and like this last week, get them to the shipper
in between all the rest of life. My current job precludes me getting to UPS
while they are open. Have to get parts on weekends, box them after work. Ship
thru the local supermarket.

Then, there's the checks that show up w/ minimal or no note: "here's the $"...
Uh, for what? I have about 3-4 parts deals going any week... have to first
scout parts' availability, condition, then get the $, then go back, extract
parts, ship 'em. If I did this all day every day, sure, but I have to have that
pesky "real job".

Hey, Brothers, you need a MI outpost? Lots auto parts makers around here, can
reproduce stuff! PWindow motors seem to be a hot item these days!

- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:45:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANTIQOLDS@aol.com
Subject: Re: wanted: 394 4V intake

Hi Chris
  I have a 1961 394 4bbl intake. I want $100.00 plus shipping. If it is still
need let me know

Everett OCA#1961
1-401-435-7139

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:58:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: troubleshooting

68 Power Windows:
How in the world do I get this
window back up?  I have pulled the panel and yanked on the glass.
No good.  I have tried switching the wiring around, thinking I had a
bad switch, to no avail.  I am panicing now since I have an open
car that anyone can get in to.  We won't even mention rain!

Is there anyone out there who can help me here.  I am desperate.

Chris Sparks
====================

This whole story brings up the necessity of proper troubleshooting.
After checking the obvious simple items like, is key on, is fuse OK...

1- go to where the power should be, in this case the motor.
2- take off the wires, use a light or buzzer or voltmeter to see if there is
indeed power there when it should be.
  If not, go back up the wiring harness to the next component, say, the switch.
  If so, that points the other way: to the motor itself, or perhaps the ground
circuit back to the battery.

Next step: "hotwire" the part, see if applying power makes it work. Works for
most electrical items. If you apply a known 12V to the pw motor, and it does
not work, that condemns it. If that makes it work, back to the wiring. Those
portable jump-start batteries are very handy for this.


Of course, as was pointed out, the PW windows' wires do flex a lot at the door
hinge area, and often this kind of flaw can be found by holding the switch "on"
or hotwiring [bypassing] it, and manipulating the wires: wiggle, stretch,
compress, etc. This often finds such faults.

And, of course, the gentle rap with the hammer while power is applied can often
jar the brushes into contact for one more run.

Often, such motors just need to be dismantled, cleaned, maybe new brushes
installed & the commutator cleaned up. Not difficult, just time consuming.
- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 00:13:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: HEMI Olds?

From:   HEMIOLDS@aol.com

Huh, really, this guy has a Hemi Olds?

- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:12:54 -0500
From: JR <joertexas@earthlink.net>
Subject: Edelbrock Intake

Someone had advertised an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold for a 350
here a week or two ago. I'm still looking for one.

JR
72 Cutlass S

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:14:10 -0500
From: JR <joertexas@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Olds sale

Frank (by way of Tim ) wrote:

> 
> 1970 442 ,455 ,400, disassembled,,,  1971 Cutlass S 350\350 , not
> running,,, 1972 Convertible, 455, 400, dissasembled,good top, new
> floors, new suspension, engine all new parts ,repro ramair  hood and
> wing,, needs assembly, extra 350 ,extra 455  ,garage full of parts both
> exterior and interior for 70-72 Cutlasses, damaged 70 ramair hood.2 sets
> extra rims.. Want to sell to Olds restorer\enthusiast not parts
> place.$5000obo for all or trade for 71\72 442 in decent
> shape….305-858-6758 or email plpaudio@ix.netcom.com(will not split up or
> part anything out so dont ask).....

Did anyone check into this? Sure wish *I* had the cash anbd the use of a
truck...

JR
72 Cutlass S

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 01:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: LEDZEP442@aol.com
Subject: Re: HEMI Olds?

It's just a screen name buddy.  He is looking for parts for the car he is
restoring.

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 00:42:06 -0500
From: "Lance Crouse" <DLCrouse@gte.net>
Subject: Trying to Find

I am looking for a pair of white door panels for my 1971 Olds Delta 88
convertable.  I figure it will be unlikely to find used ones so I need to
find some NOS or reproductions.
Lance

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:27:45 +0200
From: "archy van wely" <usicon@pi.net>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Intake

Does the kind of manifold have anutjing to do with the power of the
engine??
It's getting more complex every week.
Greetings from Holland. Archy
Olds delta 88 royale town sedan 1976

- ----------
> Van: JR <joertexas@earthlink.net>
> Aan: Oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Onderwerp: Edelbrock Intake
> Datum: zondag 14 september 1997 6:12
> 
> Someone had advertised an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold for a 350
> here a week or two ago. I'm still looking for one.
> 
> JR
> 72 Cutlass S

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:30:26 +0200
From: "archy van wely" <usicon@pi.net>
Subject: Re: Olds in Europe

Das ist ja toll das sie diese meeting abgereisd sind.
Auch eine oldsmobile fanaticus. 
Ich bin von Holland.
Archy olds delta 88 royale town sedan 1976

- ----------
> Van: Roland Klinger <Roland.Klinger@bonn.netsurf.de>
> Aan: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Onderwerp: Olds in Europe
> Datum: zaterdag 13 september 1997 23:38
> 
> Hello friends of Oldsmobile,
> 
> got some pictures in the net from an American Car meeting in Gent,
Belgium
> and the Meeting of the German Oldsmobile Club in Mindelheim, Bavaria to
> celebrate the Centennial.
> 
> Was kind of hard to drive those 1000 miles to the two meetings with my
´56
> 88 at a speed of 65 mph with all other people going up to 120 mph. Love
the
> smaller roads normally but that´s no use when you have to go such a long
> distance.
> 
> Look the pictures at
> 
> http://bonn.netsurf.de/~Roland.Klinger
> 
> and follow the two links at the top of the page.
> 
> Greetings, Roland Klinger, Niederkassel, Germany

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:51:17 +1200
From: harry <Km-Nuku@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: NZ-403

Hi all

Have found lotsa info regarding the 403, and am now going through the
process of sorting through it :-)

Gotta question,

Recently saw something on heads, regarding blocked cross over. Forget
where I saw it, but it was saying not to use Stainless Steel Shims, as
they deteriorate after about a year.
Whats your comments on this? It would be good to know of any other
options.

Thanx
Dave
403 Olds

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 08:35:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: Trying to Find (71 Delta door panels)

Not on the list as far as I know, so reply directly...

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	"Lance Crouse" <DLCrouse@gte.net>
Subject: Trying to Find

I am looking for a pair of white door panels for my 1971 Olds Delta 88
convertable.  I figure it will be unlikely to find used ones so I need to
find some NOS or reproductions.
Lance

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 08:41:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 1987 Olds 442 Parts

This bounced, though I know Steve is a member. Not sure why.

BTW, the spam level has gone down, but one still gets thru occasionally. 
I don't know why because most of it is getting trapped and, as you can 
see, non-member posts do get turfed. Hmmm...

Greg Beaulieu        ab348@chebucto.ns.ca        Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	Steve Ochs <Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com>
Subject: 1987 Olds 442 parts

I am looking for the following parts for my 1987 442.  I need an original
carburetor (the air horn on mine is distorted).  It is a Rochester
Quadrajet #17086009.
I also am looking for mint wheels (chrome/gold).  Mine are cosmetically
excellent but I have at least one bent one.
Finally, I still see SPAM showing up in the Digest???  Obviously closing
the list didn't solve this problem????

Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma Plant
Transmission Division (4T60/65-E) - Steve_Ochs@compuserve.com
The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division

'97 Chevy Blazer LT 4x4 4.3L V6    '96 DCM Impala SS 5.7L V8 
'87 Olds Cutlass 442 307 V8        '61 GMC 1500 Fleetside 305 V6  

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 08:30:31 -0400
From: Al Barlow <iamoz@ime.net>
Subject: Re: Al's 71 W30 hood

At 08:22 PM 9/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>----------
>> From: Al Barlow <iamoz@ime.net>
>> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: Al's 71 W30 hood
>> Date: Saturday, September 13, 1997 12:27 PM
>> 
>> At 01:21 AM 9/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> >My big quest is an original OAI (ram
>> >air) hood for my 71 442. I think I have E-Mailed everyone in the U.S.
>
>Obviously no one has e-mailed me........I know of someone who has a 72 ram
>air hood in their garage.  Stress cracks on the corners of the scoops, but
>that's "normal".  Pretty good shape.  Not rotted.  He said he'd sell it to
>me for 950.00.  If someone wants it really bad, I can probably still get it
>for that.  Let me know, and we'll go from there.
>
>Mike Rothe
>
Mike,

I remember you mentioning this hood to me back when I first started looking
for one and you did not think the person would sell it. I am interested in
the hood. Do you have a general idea on what would it might cost to ship
this hood to Thomaston, Maine? 
Thanks,
Al Barlow
1971 Olds 442 Convertible
1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme Convertible (parts car)
Thomaston, Maine

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:07:24 -0400
From: mrhell@m1.sprynet.com
Subject: Re: O.C.A. why join?

Thanks Steve and Dan!  I'm still considering joining OCA.  

I know the feeling of "talking for hours" about Olds' with people you just 
meet.  It's fun!  Since I bought my car, (June 97), it still amazes me how 
nice most "car people" are.  I've been in many different kinds of clubs in the 
past, (good and bad), and so far the nicest people are classic car people!

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:11:19 -0400
From: mrhell@m1.sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Division Thank you

Wow, that's really cool they did that!  I made Lansing but didn't register.  
Wish I would have. :(

RC Hellebuyck
1971 4-4-2 covt.

==============================================================================

On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, FREDALL@aol.com wrote:
>I got a package yesterday from the Oldsmobile Centennial Team. In it was my
>Centennial plaque and oter goodie stuff that I did not expect to receive. I
>was unable to attend the Lansing show even though I had registered many
>months ago.
>
>I think it was above the responsibility of the Team to forward my plaque etc.
>
>
>Thank you Oldsmobile and the Centennial Team. It wasn't as good as being
>there but it helped.
>
>Fred Allard   FREDALL@aol.com
>

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:44:39 -0400
From: "Robert Schinkel" <docbob@caninet.com>
Subject: Re: 70-72 OAI Base

Steve 

Does your new breather from Brother's have a piano type hinge on the door ?
Just want to know

Robert Schinkel
1970  442  Conv.
1970  W-31 4 sp
1970  Cutlass Conv.  (13.4 et)

- ----------
> 
>    BTW, subsequent to the Brothers Auto conversation held here, I did get
my
> OAI air cleaner top the other day.  Very nice piece.  I looks very
original
> including the part #'s.  I saw an original @ Summer Carlise and this one
> looks identical.  The asking price for the original was $650.00.  The
only
> thing that does not look original,  and maybe Steve Kenny can verify this
for
> me, is the screw and nut attaching the vacuum arm to the flapper door. 
This
> screw has a pan head slotted screw with a nylon locknut on it ????
> 
> Steve Dietrich
>   S/E PA
>     71 442 W30 Conv.

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 21:19:20 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: O.C.A.  why join?

 I don't want to be contrary to Dan - would I ever do that? - but, while I
enjoy magazines, that can't be the primary reason for joining anything.
While I almost never sell anything, I am always interested in parts &
services for my delelics even if I can't afford nearly all that I envision.
Probably the most important part of any club is the membership.  I am a part
of OCA because of the wonderful people in it.  Without them there is no club
nor much reason for the $30 fee.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama




>At 09:43 PM 9/12/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>I was just curious, why should one join the O.C.A.?  I been thinking
>>about joining for some time and would like to know more.  When I bought
>>my car, it came with some back issues of Journey With Olds.  Nice
>>monthly "newsletter" plus, free ads. (I have a OCA brochure already)
>
>The primary benefit is the monthly magazine you mention, Journey with Olds,
>which has articles about Oldsmobiles and such (obviously!) and an extensive
>classified section with strictly Olds-related cars, parts, and services.
>As an OCA member, you can place an ad for free.  You also get the
>priviledge of joining one of their many chapters.  You can't be a member of
>a chapter unless you are first a member of the OCA.  Most of the chapters
>are geographical (North Texas, Western New York, Mid-Ohio, that sort of
>thing), but there is a small but growing number of chapters that are
>national and are devoted to a particular model.  For example, there's a
>Toronado chapter, a Starfire/Jetstar I chapter, a 1957 Chapter, and a
>Performance Chapter.  You can, of course, belong to more than one chapter,
>and each usually has a nominal yearly dues ($10?) and a monthly magazine or
>newsletter.
>
>There is also the yearly OCA Nationals, which will be held in Springfield,
>Illinois next July.  I'm not sure if you must be a member of OCA in order
>to be able to participate in the show.
>
>The dues aren't exactly cheap ($30 per year for third-class postage, $40 if
>you want your JWO mailed first-class), but I think it's generally worth it.
>
>
>Dan
>
>
>*********************************************************
>Dan Gulino
>gulino@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
>http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/rides.html
>1975 Delta 88 Convertible
>*********************************************************
>see photos of the Oldsmobile Centennial at
>http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~gulino/lansing/lansing.html
>*********************************************************
>

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 21:24:32 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Al's 71 W30 hood

 I love this conversation.  I am the guy who found one of these hoods 3
years ago & sold it to a friend for $75.

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama




>At 01:21 AM 9/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>My big quest is an original OAI (ram
>>air) hood for my 71 442. I think I have E-Mailed everyone in the U.S. but
>>have only found one hood that the person will not sell. Any help would be
>>appreciated. It's funny because I'm selling my set of (5) SSI's with the
>>center caps so I can put  the SSII's on my 442. I think they look much
>>better. Each to his own I guess. Good talking to you.
>>Al Barlow
>>
>>Al, there's one on a local parts car here, the experimental intake car,
>but the
>>hood inner frame is quite rusty, the chrome latches are gone, has pop
rivets
>>thru the glass to h*lp hold the frame on... needs a lot of work to be
>>presentable. And, the car is $3000 asking price. Granted, a lot of other
>parts,
>>too, but... what's a crusty old hood worth, max? I guessed $500 max for
>such a
>>part.
>>--
>>Chris  B. Witt
>>*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
>>wittchri@pilot.msu.edu
>>
>>Chris,
>I appreciate the help but I guess I'll continue to look for a reasonably
>priced and restoreable hood. I know there must be one out there somewhere.
>Al Barlow
>Thomaston, Maine
>
>

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:33:13 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: RS parts cars

Chris Brown Witt wrote:
> 
> 3/18/97
> 
> RS Parts cars on hand
> 
> > Color   Yr    Model   Mdl Spcl    Body    VIN
> > Beige   73    CSup                4dr     3J29K3M111859

Hey Chris, what color of dashboad does this have?

- -- 
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:41:26 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Intake

JR wrote:
> 
> Someone had advertised an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold for a 350
> here a week or two ago. I'm still looking for one.
> 
> JR
> 72 Cutlass S

Well, you might want to try Edelbrock themselves:

http://www.edelbrock.com

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 21:43:20 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Oldsmobile Division Thank you

 I got mine too & I was very pleased.  When I found that I could not attend,
I contacted Oldsmobile & they promised to send the mementos.  There were no
flags, but I got;

    Beautiful plaque for my wall
    Lovely large key chain w/originial Olds emblem
    CD that isn't my favorite, but very good non the less
    Nice literature set including some ads for shows
    Little stand up black card from the president of Oldsmobile
    Good black bag w/new Olds logo
    My plastic pass along w/guest pass
    Cheap dash plaque not consistant w/other items

Thank you so much Oldsmobile

Bill Culp
Decatur, Alabama




>I got a package yesterday from the Oldsmobile Centennial Team. In it was my
>Centennial plaque and oter goodie stuff that I did not expect to receive. I
>was unable to attend the Lansing show even though I had registered many
>months ago.
>
>I think it was above the responsibility of the Team to forward my plaque
etc.
>
>
>Thank you Oldsmobile and the Centennial Team. It wasn't as good as being
>there but it helped.
>
>Fred Allard   FREDALL@aol.com
>
>

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 08:33:25 -0700
From: "Mike Aldana" <maldana@digitalwave.net>
Subject: 1971 Cutlass rear bumper  FS

Have one remaining bumper. Just out of the platers, and looking very good.
$220.00 outright, plus shipping,(usually $25.00). $200.00 with exchange,
including free return shipping. Returned bumper is insured for five hundred
dollars, in case of damge. For more info, please email me direct to Mike
Aldana at              maldana@digitalwave.net      thank you

Mike Aldana
417 Encinas Ave.
calexico Ca. 92231        760-357-0713   early morning best

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:38:19 -0400
From: Al Barlow <iamoz@ime.net>
Subject: Olds cars for sale

If anyone is interested, I saw the following two ads in my local Swap or
Sell It Guide:

70 Olds Cutlass "S" rebuilt Rocket 350, bucket seats, air, auto trans, rear
quarter rust. $900.00  call - 207-897-5063 in Livermore, Maine

70 Olds Cutlass W-31, 350 with 4-speed, 12 bolt posi, ram air hood, yellow
with black stripes, new exhaust, front end, shocks, springs, very solid and
no rust. Call after 5:00pm. $4000.00  call - 207-767-0945 in Portland, Maine

Hope this helps someone.
Al Barlow
1971 Olds 442 Convertible
1972 Olds Cutlass Supreme Convertible (parts car)
Thomaston, Maine

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:51:59 -0500
From: "smardale@airmail.net" <smardale@airmail.net>
Subject: A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!

Seeing as that for all intents and purposes, Olds pulled-out of the
musclecar business over 20 years ago, and has recently quit drag-racing
sponsoring in favor of circuit racing, why not build a car that fits (or
atleast appears to fit) this new corporate direction? 

Yes, the Aurora is a nice car, and the Cutlass (yawn) etc. etc. well... Why
not build a small, nimble, >>RWD<<, (rear-engined?!!) two-seater using the
Northstar/Aurora V8 along the lines with what Porsche (Boxter), BMW (Z3),
and to a much lesser extent, Mazda has done with the Miata? I don't think
that the GM corporates would have a problem with such a car because it
wouldn't really compete with the Camaro and Firebird etc, and it could
quickly launch Olds back into the performance limelight that it hasn't
really enjoyed in almost a generation.

The new Olds-Based Shelby is a step in the right direction, but why can't
this sort of car be done in house? I know that visionary leaders like Billy
Mitchell are gone-- I just hope that the Olds Board of Directors aren't so
"Euro/Jap-Car Wannabe" minded, that they don't forget the Olds once lead the
industry in performance. With the Germans making a killing in our own
backyard, and with no American company competing, Oldsmobile could send
these guys back home packing. The opportunity is here-- I just hope that
Olds sees it and acts upon it!


Just my own .00002 cents...

Scott Martindale
smardale@airmail.net
1965 442 Holiday Coupe
1965 442 Convertible
199? Olds "Boxter"?!

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:15:37 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: Octane Ratings

From what I know, The higher the octane rating of gas, the more
resistance it has to burn.  But does higher octane burn quicker/more
efficiently that low octane in equal conditions?

	I am asking this because I have a very low compression 455.  With high
compression, you are supposed to run high octane to prevent
pre-detonation.  So with low compression, would it be easier for the car
to spark low octane, thus giving me a more efficient and powerful
engine?

Thanks
Brad
70 442

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:18:38 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: A better mechanical fuel pump

I am looking for a better mechanical fuel pump than a stock
replacement.  I plan on a mild nitrous kit and would like some advice on
this.  
	On my current fuel pump, there are two lines coming from the tank to
the pump.  Is one a return line?  How does that work?  Will aftermarket
pumps have this return line?

Thanks
Brad
70 442

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: Re: NZ-403

edelbrock now sells the plugs that block the exhaust from entering the intake
manifold.  i don't know how much money they are yet, but i will let you all
know as soon as i find out.

mikey tvb@aol.com
73 cutlass w/403

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:42:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mikeytvb@aol.com
Subject: Re: A better mechanical fuel pump

holley makes a couple styles of fuel pumps for olds.  i am not sure about
what hook up's they have though.  you might try looking in a jegs catalog for
more info.

mikey tvb@aol.com
73 cutlass w/403

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:29:06 -0500
From: JR <joertexas@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Intake

Matt Cremean wrote:
> 
> JR wrote:
> >
> > Someone had advertised an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold for a 350
> > here a week or two ago. I'm still looking for one.
> >
> > JR
> > 72 Cutlass S
> 
> Well, you might want to try Edelbrock themselves:
> 
> http://www.edelbrock.com

Well, the idea was to find a used one so I don't have to fork out $170 +
shipping for a new one...

JR
72 Cutlass S

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 15:49:11 -0400
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: '78 D-88 Parts Car?

Hello all, 

I just got back from a car show/swap meet, with lots of assorted Olds
goodies.  I picked up all sorts of Olds memorabilia, such as a '78 Olds
line-up booklet, a couple cheap hats, and numerous bumper stickers...

Anyway, I found a decent Delta 88 parts car;  decent 403, good TH-350,
2.73 rear end (welded to posi), average interior, and a few rust
blisters on the doors.  Both bumpers are shot, the tires are worn to the
belts, and the dash is destroyed (only speedo remains).  The car is also
a stripper;  manual locks, windows, no air, no tilt/cruise, nothing. 
The color scheme doesn't do much for me either;  medium brown with light
brown interior.

The car runs and moves fine...it was certified five or six years ago. 
What would this car be worth (in Canadian $)?  It would be nice to have,
but it's not a necessity to me.

If someone could tell me what it's worth, I'd appreciate it.  

Does anybody else want it?

S. Dave Ward

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 16:43:57 -0700
From: Greg Pruett <grpruett@vt.edu>
Subject: (`80 Cutlass) My latest set of wheels. 

Brought home another Olds yesterday.  Just had to tell everyone about
the latest reason for my parents to threaten to throw me out the house.
:)  I was browsing the classifieds Thursday when I ran across an
intriuging ad that read: 1980 T-top oldsmobile, needs motor, $125. 
Since I had been toying with the idea of gettind a T-top daily driver
for awhile, I decided it was worth a look at least.

After a 50 mile cruise up the interstate I managed to find where the car
was located and looked it over.  I was pleasantly surpised to find a
Cutlass Calias with no visible body rot, and a staight body exept for
some K-mart rash and a dent in the door.  Most of the door dent can be
taken out with a decent whack from the inside of the door.  Further
checking with a magnet has revealed no bondo work.  All glass and lenes
were present and intact.  I was also impressed with the options: Cutlass
Calias, T-tops, power windows, reclining bucket seats, console shifter &
TH350, ralley gauges,3-spoke sporty steering wheel, AC, V-8, & handling
package.  The motor was removed and lying under a tarp 'cause the guy
who had it was going to replace it with a Buck 400 he had lying around. 
He said he changed his mind and decided to put the buick mill in an old
truck and sell the olds.  The alledged reason for removing the original
V-8: jumped time.

The car did have some glaring bad points.  Mainly the rattle can primer
job dappled with various areas of blue.  (car was originally a deep blue
color BTW)  The interior has been *ravaged* by the sun.  The bucket seat
upholstery is crubling,(foam's still good) as is the door panel
upholstery.  It's amazing how much better shape the back seat is in. 
All that sunlight through the T-tops really did in the bucket seats
before their time.  Dash is cracking, and the carpet is badly faded. 
Passenger inside door handle is missing as is the inside trim piece for
the center bar of the T-top.  Car has been smoked in so the headliner is
sagging.  The engine is a 260. :( 

So after sleeping on it and making sure my parents wouldn't mind another
car hanging around, I called the seller back Friday afternoon and told
him I'd take it.  I might try and use the original 260, but I have my
doubts as to whether the little engine is worth trying to keep.  I hear
they're terminally underpowered, and I do like some zip.  Probably my
best option is to use the `70 350 motor that is presently in my `67
cutlass.  The `67 will be getting a heavily modified 350 based on a
diesel block, so it won't be needing the one it has now.  Maybe I can
rebuild the `67's engine to put in the `80 and then slap a timing chain
on the 260 and put it in the `67 to keep it mobile 'till I get a motor
built up for it.  Even if I have to use *all* of the original smog
equipment, I should at least pick up some low end torque with the 350
engine.  I might go for true duals, I think VA will let you run dual
catylists on a car that originally came with only one.  That way I could
have some relatively free-flowing exhaust and still pass smog.  (No
sniffer test in this part of the state)  

But anywayz, if I put in a motor, replace the brake pads, replace any
worn front end pieces, shampoo the carpets and put some wal-mart
slipcovers on the front seats I should be good to go.  Even if it does
have a bad case of the uglies.  Hopefully by spring it'll be roadworthy
so it can ease the burden on the Vista Cruiser, which gets driven at
least 350 miles a week when school's in.  I'll probably paint the little
Cutlass sometime in the early summer of `98.  This all means that
progress on the `67 will be halted for a few months. :(  But it probably
would be anyway, since it needs body work and painting and it's too cold
after october to do that anyway.  This also means that my mom has
informed me that if I drag home another "junk" car, I'll be sleeping in
it. ;)


Greg Pruett
`72 Vista Cruiser
`67 Cutlass Supreme
`80 Cutlass Calias

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 16:47:28 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Intake

JR wrote:
> 
> Well, the idea was to find a used one so I don't have to fork out $170 +
> shipping for a new one...

I'd rather have a new one. Who knows what kind of condition a used one
in "good shape" is in? But, if you're on a tight budget, or don't want
to spend that kind of money, I see your point. I guess I'm lucky because
I don't have to spend money on house payments, etc... But, I did see a
lot of stuff I wanted to purchase this summer, but the thought of my
Cutlass burnin the tires of and blowin by 5.0's made me think twice.

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 16:57:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: LEDZEP442@aol.com
Subject: Re: HEMI Olds?

HEMI OLDS is not interested in a dual point.  He needs a rev-pol.  

The screen name HEMI OLDS is in reference to the W-43 experimental engine
that never went into production.

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 18:50:36 -0400
From: Jason Labay <z28cfi@gwis.com>
Subject: Re: (`80 Cutlass) My latest set of wheels.

Greg Pruett wrote:
> 
> Brought home another Olds yesterday.  Just had to tell everyone about
> the latest reason for my parents to threaten to throw me out the house.
> :)  I was browsing the classifieds Thursday when I ran across an
> intriuging ad that read: 1980 T-top oldsmobile, needs motor, $125.
> Since I had been toying with the idea of gettind a T-top daily driver
> for awhile, I decided it was worth a look at least.

You probably already did, but check the rear frame over and behind the
rear wheels on both sides. These cars are notorious for rotting bad
here. My 80 has the beginnings of rust there. I have seen 87's with
frames totally rotted away there. BTW, good choice getting an '80 :-) 
- -- 

********
Jason Labay (z28cfi@gwis.com)  Akron, Ohio
Quality Engineer - TRW Automotive Group - Valve Division
1995 DCM Impala SS.....my dream car come true
1980 Olds 4-4-2 W-30.....show car..one of 346 produced
1975 Hurst/Olds W-25.....restoration project 
1985 Chevy S-10 Blazer 4X4......work truck

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:56:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: BMAN6771@aol.com
Subject: Re: A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!

well...olds does have a new sportscar comming out soon. it's called the alero
and its a very sharp car. when you see it i think you'll be impressed.

thats my $.02
brent
1967 cutlass ragtop

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:32:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: FREDALL@aol.com
Subject: Re: A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!

I'll take one Aurora 4 seater Coupe today. My choices I am looking at are:
      Volvo C70
      BMW 328is
      Lexus SC 300
      Acura CL 3.0
      Mercedes CLK 320
      Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
      Buick Riviera Supercharged
      
If I could get the Aurora coupe...... if not today but maybe tomorrow I would
wait.


Any ideas Oldsmobile

Fred Allard   57 Super 88

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 20:42:41 -0500
From: Mike Hall <oldsmike@flash.net>
Subject: So many Olds, so little time

I just came back from Virginia's Eastern Shore. The DelMarVa Peninsula 
for those in the know, this peninsula on the ocean side of Chesapeake Bay 
has portions of three states; Delaware, Maryland and Virginia (hence 
DelMarVa). It is one of the oldest parts of the country and very hard to 
get to (being a peninsula and all). A little town near us, a place called 
Onandacock, VA (spelling?) was founded in the 1600's. I think it was 
1680, almost 100 years before the ratification of our Constitution. My 
wife and I on the antique front found a dining table, ONE PIECE, approx. 
7 feet long and 3 and a half foot tall, made completely out of TEAK! The 
10 grand price tag was out of my league but the craftsmanship and carving 
was incredible and all out of one piece of wood... Did I mention we also 
went looking for Olds' while we were there? Guess I better get to that :-)

Olds' Everywhere....

First off, like to plug a car I drove in Virginia Beach on Virginia Beach 
Boulevard. Darn near got that Toro Fever I've heard so much about. It was 
a 1968 Toronado with great solid sheet metal, all original interior 
(excellent for a 30 year old car), a C-head 455, drove it, loved it, the 
$2500 price was more than fair but an awful risk for a daily driver for 
the next two years... The guy selling it is John Zilinsky. His home phone 
is 919-453-0548. This would be a great restoration project, wish I could 
have taken it home. The Oldsmobuilding is first though...

I did end up buying a 1987 Olds Eighty-Eight Custom Cruiser. White with 
plastic woodgrain, blue interior and everything works. The car is in 
great shape and I drove it back to Michigan via the Allegheny Mountains 
in Pennsylvania and never missed a beat. I took it home for $2500. The 
wagon is equipped with this 5.0 L Olds engine, 4 barrel equipped, one can 
assume a 307 is what resides in the engine bay. Da*n, they put a lot of 
emissions crap on those cars back then. This wagon has a serious lack of 
usable horsepower problem. All opinions on how to repair this issue are 
EXTREMELY welcome.

Well, that about raps it up, still scratching my sunburn and drove lots 
in lots of Olds' on the trip. There were a ton of cars on the peninsula 
and their rust free condition, hoo-boy! I will be going back to buy more 
as time goes on I'm afraid...

Till next time,
Mike


Michael R. Hall: OCA #17903                    Ortonville, Michigan
Home E-Mail: oldsmike@flash.net
The Ever-Growing Oldsmobile Stable:
1971 Oldsmobile 442    
1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass S
1987 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Custom Cruiser
1991 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight Royale Broughm

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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 80 13:42:04 -0800
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: 86 Olds Cutlass

Are there any performance add ons for the 86 307 y code?  I have a good 
running Cutlass would just like more performance out of it.  It has the 
307 4bbl o/d trans, and 2.46 gears if I rember correct. It is real 
sluggish out of the hole. I dont know if they were ever any performance 
offered for them. This is my first OLDS and have been very happy with it.

Thanks for any info.

Clarence

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:54:28  -0400
From: scott or sharon <jerdan@erols.com>
Subject: Parts for RC

RC Hellebuyck,

I called to check on your parts request today and the guy, Gary, told me that
he did not have either the exhaust manifold shroud or the cruise control
parts.  Sorry I didn't get back with you sooner but between school and him
away from his house it took till today to speak with him.

Scott Jerdan
70 W-30 442

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:10:30 -0700
From: "J. Michael Wolfe" <boogah@en.com>
Subject: Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale

Jim & Joanne Chermack wrote:
> 
>                                         C&M Classic Parts
> 
> Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm, Sat 9:00 am - 6:00 pm
> As of September 20, we are accepting all major Credit Cards. VISA, Master
> Card, American Express, and Discover cards.
> New Parts: ____________________________________________________________________
> 66 442 Side Mount Tach (maroon, works, nice)  $225.00
> 66 F-85 Post Coupe Doors (very good cond)  $200.00 pr
> 66 F-85/Cutlass grille  (nice)  $50.00
> 66 F-85 Trunk Lid  (nice)  $125.00
> 66 330 cu in 2 bbl engine (complete w/trans, 17,000 original miles)  $350.00
> 66-67 Clutch Z-Bar  $50.00
> 66-67 Rear Side window lower U-seals (new, Metro Moulded)  $17.00 pr
> 67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
> 67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.00 ea
> 67 Rear Defrost setup (w/switch)  $50.00
> 68-72 Rear Defrost  (no switch)  $30.00
> 68-69 Rallye Pac. tach and gauges (with tach harness)  $325.00
> 69 Cruise Control Switch and Bezel  $25.00
> 69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
> 15x7 SSIII's (snap on caps no rings) 4  $125.00
> 70 Auto Console and shifter (mint, replated top plate & wood grain)  $275.00
> 70 OAI Hood (nice) 2 very tiny stress cracks at scoop  $950.00
> 70-75 Sport Wheel (black with blue center and collar)  $125.00
> 70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
> 70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $75.00
> 70-72 Std. Console Shift Lens  (repro)  $23.00 ea
> 70 Sport Mirrors (nice sets)  $155.00 set
> 70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $100.00
> 70 442/SX/Rally 350 Rear Cutout Bumper (CORE)  $110.00
> 70-72 RH Door (Coupe/Conv)  $125.00
> 69-72 Bucket Seats (need recovering)  $40.00 pr
> 69-72 Column Shift Steering Column (plain)  $45.00
> 64-72 Power Window Motors  (excellent cond) $50.00 ea
> 71 C/S Door Panels (white w/pwr windows)  $40.00 pr
> 71-72 W-455 Aluminum intake ((2) 1/8th in repaired cracks) $675.00
> 71 350 4 bbl Engine (complete, carb to pan, runs excellent) $250.00
> 68-72 Power Steering setup  (complete)  $50.00
> 71-72 8-Track Player (doesn't work)   $85.00
> 71 Cutlass/442 Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea
> Bumper Bracket sets ALL years  $25.00 pr
> 70-72 455 Engine Mounts (NEW)  $40.00 pr
> 68-72 350 Engine Mounts (NEW)  $38.00 pr
> TH350 Shift Cable Bracket  $15.00
> 
> New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts for 1964-1972 Cutlass/442
> _______________________________________________
> 66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $34.50 ea
> 68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $34.50 ea
> 69 Cutlass RH Grilles (N.O.S.) $85.00 ea
> 70 Cutlass Supreme Grilles (N.O.S.)  $110.00 pr
> 70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
> 70-72 Cutlass/442 LH Fenders (N.O.S.) $450.00 ea
> 71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr
> 71-72 Stone Shields (N.O.S.) $38.00 ea
> 71-72 Headlight Housings (plastic) (N.O.S.) $80.00 pr
> 71-72 Cutlass Rear Bumpers (N.O.S.) $380.00 ea
> 71-75  Cutlass Fender Emblems (N.O.S.)  $19.50 ea
> 72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $125.00 pr
> 
> Used Parts
> _______________________________________________
> 64 Cutlass/442
> RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00
> Front Bumper Core  $40.00
> LH/RH Taillight Lens  $8.00 ea
> F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00
> V-8 Emblem  $5.00
> 
> 65 Cutlass/442
> 65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  $20.00 ea
> 65 Hood Molding (fair cond)  $10.00
> 
> 66 Cutlass/442
> 66 Cutlass/442 Hood Molding  (good cond)  $30.00
> 66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $25.00 ea
> 66-67 RH Hardtop Doors (very nice)  $130.00 ea
> 66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
> 66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
> 66 Cutlass/442 Full Turbine Hubcaps (very, very nice)  $230.00 set
> Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $40.00 pr
> 
> LH C/S Rear side molding  $10.00
> Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
> F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea
> 
> 67 Cutlass/442
> 66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $25.00 ea
> 66-67 RH Hardtop Doors (very nice)  $130.00 ea
> 66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
> 66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
> 67 F-85 Rear Bumper (very good condition)  $75.00
> 67 442 Grille Bar  (nice)  $40.00
> 67 442 Hood (some rust)  $85.00
> 67 Front Bumper (straight, core)  $65.00
> 67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $55.00 pr
> 67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $130.00 ea
> 67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $5.00
> 67 442 Chrome Trunk Panel (excellent)  $125.00
> 67 442 Tail Light Bezels (some pitting)  $50.00 pr
> 67 RH Fender (small hole, straight)  $200.00
> 
> 68 Cutlass/442
> 68 Hood Hinges  $50.00 pr
> 68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
> 68-69 LH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $225.00
> 68-69 RH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $225.00
> 68/69 SSII 14x6 Wheels (4) mint  $160.00 set
> 68-69 Top Fender Moldings (near windshield, mint)  $40.00 pr
> 68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00
> Rear Window Molding Sets  $85.00 set
> 68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00
> 68 Air Cleaner Stove Pipe (pipe only)  $10.00
> 68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $20.00 ea
> 68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea
> 68-72 B-Pillar Molding Set (black, mint) $25.00 pr
> 
> 69 Cutlass/442
> 69 Lower Dash (radio area)  (nice)  $45.00
> 69 C/S Side Moldings  $20.00 ea
> 68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
> 68-69 LH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $225.00
> 68-69 RH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $225.00
> 68/69 SSII 14x6 Wheels (4) mint  $160.00 set
> 68-69 Top Fender Moldings (near windshield, mint)  $40.00 pr
> 69 Cutlass/442 Doors (mint pair)  $300.00 pr / $160.00 ea
> Hood Hinges  $50.00 pr
> Hood Louver Chrome  $35.00 pr
> Hood Louver Moldiings  $35.00 pr
> Windshield Molding Sets  $65.00 set
> Rear Window Molding Sets  $85.00 set
> 69-72 Floor Shift Steering Column (very good)  $100.00
> 69 Cutlass/442 Front Bumper (good cond) $100.00
> 69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
> 69 LH Fender (tiny rust hole)  $250.00
> 69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $250.00
> 69 Rear Bumper (V05 rub strip) one small ding  $135.00
> 69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $75.00 ea
> 69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $40.00 ea
> 
> 70 Cutlass/442
> 70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea
> 70 RH Sport Mirror Shell  $40.00
> 70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
> 70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00
> 69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00
> "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $35.00 pr
> "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $35.00 pr
> "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr
> Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $90.00
> Black A/C Dash Pads  $100.00 ea
> Blue Auto Shift Console  $125.00 (w/shifter)
> 70-71 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
> 70-72 RH Fender (needs patch panel)   $145.00
> 70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens   $10.00 ea
> 70-72 Cutlass S Vinyl Top rear moldings (few pits)  $8.00 pr
> 70 Cutlass Supreme Flat Hood   $125.00
> 
> 71 Cutlass/442
> 71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
> 71-72 Sport Mirrors (excellent cond)  $100.00 pr
> 71-72 Cutlass S/442 Hood Louvers (nice)  $35.00 pr
> 71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
> 71 Front Rocket Emblem (nice)  $5.00
> 71 Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
> 
> 72 Cutlass/442
> 71-72 10 Bolt 2.56:1 (open rear)  $75.00
> 71-72 Sport Mirrors (excellent cond)  $100.00 pr
> 72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00
> 72 Cutlass Supreme Side Moldings (excellent)  $110.00 set
> 71-72 Cutlass S/442 Hood Louvers (nice)  $35.00 pr
> 71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
> 
> We have a ' 71 Supreme Coupe to part out. Rough body. Good drive train. No
> disc brakes. Has A/C, good dash pad, white rear seat (good), P/S, glass,
> lots of small stuff.
> 
> Jim Chermack
> OCA #24275
> C&M Classic Parts
> Virginia  Beach, VA
> (757) 474-0869
Jim:

Re the 71 Cutlass tail light lenses, would the total be 40.00 for the
complete set ( 2 on each side) or 20.00 (10.00 for each set of 2)?

Re the 71 supreme that you are parting:
Do you have an original 4V manifold, air cleaner, and carb?

Do you have a driver side headlight bezel?

Thanks
Joe

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:13:51 -0700
From: "J. Michael Wolfe" <boogah@en.com>
Subject: Re: advice on purchasing '70 442

W30442CS@aol.com wrote:
> 
> maybe; carb,air cleaner,intake,   what does it have now?,  steven.
> w30442cs@aol.com
Steven:

My 72 has original 2v carb , manifold, and air cleaner assy.  I would
like to save the original parts and convert it to the 4V setup which
must also be factory correct. Am also looking for a set of cheap 71 tail
light lenses.

Thanks
Joe

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:24:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: CarrDuff@aol.com
Subject: Re: 70-72 OAI Base

In a message dated 97-09-14 10:26:57 EDT, you write:

 Steve 
 
 Does your new breather from Brother's have a piano type hinge on the door ?
 Just want to know
 
 Robert Schinkel
 1970  442  Conv.
 1970  W-31 4 sp
 1970  Cutlass Conv.  (13.4 et)
  >>

Robert,
 It's not a continuos piano hinge where both pieces are rolled and a rod is
inserted.  This has a rod that can be seen and it goes under and over each
piece making the hinge.

Hope that is clear !

Steve Dietrich
  S/E PA
    71 442 W30 Conv.

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:44:03 -0500
From: "Daren & Laurie Hendley" <daren@revealed.net>
Subject: Re: A new direction for Olds? How about an Olds "Boxter"?!

> well...olds does have a new sportscar comming out soon. it's called the
alero
> and its a very sharp car. when you see it i think you'll be impressed.
> 
> thats my $.02
> brent
> 1967 cutlass ragtop

Have you seen the actual production version yet? It is a lot more tame
looking than the show car, but still better looking than the underACHIEVA
it replaces in my opinion. I don't think it is considered a "sports car"
more of an entry level Olds.

Daren 

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:49:46 -0700
From: "J. Michael Wolfe" <boogah@en.com>
Subject: Re: Edelbrock Intake

JR wrote:
> 
> Someone had advertised an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold for a 350
> here a week or two ago. I'm still looking for one.
> 
> JR
> 72 Cutlass S
I believe I have one. I will get back to you tomorrow
Joe

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:17:15 -0500
From: "Daren & Laurie Hendley" <daren@revealed.net>
Subject: Re: 86 Olds Cutlass

> Are there any performance add ons for the 86 307 y code?  I have a good 
> running Cutlass would just like more performance out of it.  It has the 
> 307 4bbl o/d trans, and 2.46 gears if I rember correct. It is real 
> sluggish out of the hole. I dont know if they were ever any performance 
> offered for them. This is my first OLDS and have been very happy with it.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Clarence

With the overdrive tranny you could try some 3.55-3.73 rear gears and still
keep the rpms down at highway speeds. Rigging up an outside air induction
could help along with a freer breathing exhaust. I've never tried this but
I remember reading somewhere that most Olds V8 have the cam timing retarded
2-4 degrees, if this is true moving it straight up or advanced a couple
degrees would move the power band down a little bit. I have never played
around with cam timing so maybe somebody on the list that has can give some
info on this. Actually just replacing the timing chain could help if its
been in there for a while. A shift kit can make a noticeable difference in
acceleration. Most kits have 2-3 levels of firmness from barely noticeable
to tire chirping shifts. I've used B&M and Transgo and I like the Transgo
kit better. Try dropping the spark plug gap .005 drive the car, drop it
another .005 ... until you can notice an improvement in performance and
mileage. I had an '82 Cutlass w/3.8 V6 it liked .035 the factory gap is way
to wide. Most importantly make sure everything is in good working order
plugs, wires, cap, coil,...... Just remember the old saying "there is no
replacement for displacement"

Daren

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:54:06 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale

>Jim:
>
>Re the 71 Cutlass tail light lenses, would the total be 40.00 for the
>complete set ( 2 on each side) or 20.00 (10.00 for each set of 2)?
>
>Re the 71 supreme that you are parting:
>Do you have an original 4V manifold, air cleaner, and carb?
>
>Do you have a driver side headlight bezel?
>
>Thanks
>Joe
>

Joe

        Yes That would be $40.00 for a complete set or $20.00 per side. We
have a 4 bbl manifold air cleaner and carb. Yes we have the drivers side
headlight bezel for $15.00 ea. 

Jim Chermack
C&M Classic Parts
(757) 474-0869

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