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oldsmobile-digest       Sunday, October 19 1997       Volume 01 : Number 912



Re: where to buy por-15
Re: Still cold start problems
Re: any really fast olds out there??
crank journals
Re: where to buy por-15
build sheet decoding
Trainy Lines FIXED!!
wire colors - what's what?!
Lansing Video:  Fifth Update
Re: Batton head search
Under-the-carpet finds
Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?
Carpet Fuzzies
Re: Interesing Info on W41s
New find, future hunt?
'64 98 for sale
Olds Questions
build sheet decoding 2
Hydro Boost Brake Problems
"Good Samaritan"  (gone bad...)
Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?
Re: leaky trans lines
Re: Message
MORE 403 clues
Re: want to trade my edelbrock performer
Re: 442's at Lansing on the Bridge & hot starts
Mid 80's Cutlass Guage problems
H*lp with '77 403?
69 442 Zone Dealer Announcement Car
[FWD] '68 442 for sale
Re: Interesing Info on W41s
Olds Questions
Re: Leaky Trans Lines
Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?
Re: Upholstery
Test
Re: VIN Locations (was: original frame?)
Re: Oil Plug size, 72 to 75 455 (9/16 to 7/8)
Slow Email
Re: Leaky Trans Lines
Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?
Re: crank journals
Re: '66 D88, Engine?
Re: Olds go-fast parts
Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?
Exhaust, rallye-pac, paint
Re: Any Olds guys in IL??
Hello, thought you should see this
Re: "Good Samaritan"  (gone bad...)
Re: Still cold start problems
Re: 69 442 Zone Dealer Announcement Car
[none]
Re: "Good Samaritan"  (gone bad...)
Re: New find, future hunt?
Re: Olds Questions
Re: Slow Email
PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:51:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: DEOVIVERE@aol.com
Subject: Re: where to buy por-15

In a message dated 97-10-17 22:55:30 EDT, you write:

<< Can anyone tell me where to buy por-15. >>


You can get the stuff direct from POR-15 Inc.  Their number is 1800-77-POR15.

You might also want to consider Eastwood's Corroless Rust Stabilizer
(1800-345-1178).

Anyone out there have experience on which works best?

Tom Simmons
 70 SX W-32 (soon)
 71 SX (for sale)
 65 Cutlass (driver)

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 06:16:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Still cold start problems

just a thought , but have you considerd your fuel pump itself ?   if the
diaphram inside is weak or torn it could be letting the gas bleed back down
into your tank.   this is rare, but has happened.  steven. w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 06:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: any really fast olds out there??

mark, yes i would like to see the specs. on your motor.  would also like to
build up a fast car , as you have.     thinking about a w-31, or w-30,  have
both.  by the way is yours an auto or standard ?     steven. w30442cs@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:14:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lmcmcsc@aol.com
Subject: crank journals

 I have polished my journals using 320 paper then 400 paper soaked in oil the
journals are very smooth even when i run my fingernail over it . Is this
sufficient or should i go even smoother. It is a olds 400 N crank that was
balanced  with only about 2000 miles but been sitting in my garage ( upright)
for about 2 years . seems to be in excellent shape.

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:12:44 -0400
From: "Brian Lorway" <blorway@rust.net>
Subject: Re: where to buy por-15

Purchased my POR-15 from Year One. 800-950-9503

Regards,
Brian

1970 4-4-2 W-30, 4-Speed
1971 4-4-2 W-30, Convertible
OCA ª 028157
- -----Original Message-----

>Can anyone tell me where to buy por-15.

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:40:37 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: build sheet decoding

As I pulled apart my carpet today, I found the build sheet of my car.
Well, at least what is left of it.  I found a very small portion of the
upper-right corner.  It has the vinª and other stuff.  Could you please
tell me what the other stuff is.
20  Exhaust   EL
21  Fan Clutch   C6-OR
22  Fan Pully    KF
23  Vac Fittings  C
and under the vinª is
DP
SEQ
NO.  138374 40 0189

and info will be greatly appreciated
thanks
Brad
70 442

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 17:24:07 -0500
From: "Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician" <KRUMWIEDE@mis.highland.cc.il.us>
Subject: Trainy Lines FIXED!!

Thank you all for your suggestions with my trans line problems. I
first tried using hoses to coulple them together, but I think either
the TH-400 trainy or the 2000 stall converter, or both, were just to
much pressure for the rubber to handle, kept blowing them out. I was
able to get the metal flang adapter thingies, (sorry if I loose you
in my high tech talk :) got em bolted on today, and am now pulling
0-60 in 7.34 sec. Thanks again for all your suggestions.

P.S. Of course, I am going to contiue to try and make that 0-60
better. :)

- -------------------------------------------------------
Mike Krumwiede - MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Phone (815) 235-6121
Mailto:Krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
- -------------------------------------------------------
"Every man dies...not every man really gets a chance to live"

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:24:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: LlordXero@aol.com
Subject: wire colors - what's what?!

I've got an 1985 CS and I've installed a JVC CD player.. In the dash I've
only got the bare wires coming out, the previous owner had cut off the
harnesses just to make it difficult... I'm having a bit of trouble figuring
out which wires are hot, which are illumination, power antenna lead, etc...
if anyone's got this info on the color configuration (since it appeared to
have changed since 1985) I'd be much appreciative.. thank you much...

p.s. - I've already tried the owner's manual and chiltons..

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 17:26:29 -0500
From: dnewman@wcbi.com (Doug Newman)
Subject: Lansing Video:  Fifth Update

Hi everybody,
                       I just wanted to post a quick note to let everyone
know that I'm still working on the Centennial Video.  I just received two
more tapes Oct. 17, and I'm planning on getting started within the next
week.  (Work keeps getting in the way... :-)   Thanks again for all the
interest shown so far, and also a big thanks to all who've contributed raw
video to the project.

Doug Newman
Columbus, MS
1987 442

http://www.442.com/newman.html   (Updated by Bryceman 9/18/97)
http://wcbi.com


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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:36:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: DocOlds723@aol.com
Subject: Re: Batton head search

<< I am looking for a set of steel Batton heads.  >>
> Dave, they are actually aluminum.  I live near Batten, they are located in
> Romulus Michigan.  They sell the bare casting heads for 1800.00.
> that means no machining yet and no springs or valves

By far, most of them are aluminum. Actually, they did make some (granted
quite rare) steel heads. They are the same castings as the aluminum ones. I
know most ask "why steel???". I have my reasons.

  Dave

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:47:04 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: Under-the-carpet finds

I pulled the old carpet out today.  It looks like it has been replaced
before.  I found some old fries, some change lots of dust, part of the
build sheet (see build sheet decoding), and a little sticker.
The little sticker interests me because it looks original.
It is orange and a 1"X1" square
At the top is says  Q MEMBER
under that is       7682148
and                 SHCA
    Approved Quality

It has some type of an upside down horseshoe design in the backround
that is white.
What is this?
Thanks
Brad
70 442

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:52:17 -0600
From: Dustin Cross <livnrt@mssl.uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?

babbott@pdnt.com wrote:
>
> I sell new Oldsmobiles, Pon*iac,B*ick,GMC, and yes even Chrys**r and I've
> got to fid a way to justify spending time reading this list .......... I'll
> make ya a helluva deal.

I'll take a brand new '68 442!!

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:58:58 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: Carpet Fuzzies

Just installed a new carpet from Year One today.  Already the carpet is
getting the new-carpet fuzzies.  I have installed other carpets where
this has happened.  Is there any way to preventor fix this problem?
I was thinking maybe a hot iron or something.
Thanks
Brad
70 442

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:30:15 -0400
From: jeff antonucci <antonj@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Interesing Info on W41s

Cecil,

My W-41 is number W41018  I guess thats pretty low.  Thanks for that
great information!

I saw a 87 1/2 calais GT Quad 4 at the Lansing centennial and I have
pictures and information on it.  It looked great!  Black w gold stripes
and wheel inlays.  Owner's name is on the car too.  The guy is from
Lansing.

I have also heard the Black W-41 rumor, but don't believe it.

Jeff Antonucci

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:33:17 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: New find, future hunt?

Went cruising around the back roads of Sidney last week, on the way to
install a satellite dish, and noticed a shop on the side of the road,
sitting next to (what appears to be) a 67 Ninety Eight 2 door hardtop.
Really caught my eye.  Been sitting there a while, it looks like.
Neighbors didn't know who owns it, but thought the prev. owner had died
and shop was for sale or possibly recently bought.  Which means the car
is likely available, too.  Possibly for cheap????   (Typing with crossed
fingers!)  It'd make quite a mate for the the 67 Convt...  Have to go
hunting sometime soon...
- --

             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@lyrea.com
             Box 524               | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Sidney, Montana 59270 | http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass 425
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "TRBO LVR" (Maybe???:)| '83 Turbo Regal
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:57:38 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: '64 98 for sale

Received this for sale notification.  Reply privately to the gentleman at
Finerr@aol.com

Usual disclaimer - don't know personally, etc.

The brother-in-law, after close to a decade and a half of ownership is
thinking about parting with his land barge. I think he bought it from the
original owner in the early 80's. It's a blue '64 Ninety-Eight, 394, 2bbl,
Roto-hydromatic (Slim Jim) trans, 4 dr, all power options (locks, windows,
trunk), AC. Original condition (including spare and manual...some paper
work). A midwest vehicle that spent it's youth traveling between Iowa and
Arizona racking up 99,000 mi. And surprisingly, it's rust free. Since I
have a computer, he asked me to see if I could fine a value for it. Thanks
for the help.

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 01:11:26 -0600 (MDT)
From: bhorn@tnc.com (Beverley Horn)
Subject: Olds Questions

I have a few of questions:

1) I have a 1970 Oldsmobile Rallye 350, I am looking for OAI hood pins (I am
not sure of there exact name) because I have one on the left side and am
missing one on the right hand side. I am worried about warping the hood if I
drive too fast. Does anyone know where I could pick up a set of these OAI
hood pins?

2) My Rallye 350 has a 403 in it. The guy I bought it from said that he
wasn't sure where the original engine was. Should I look for a 1970 Rocket
350 to put in it or should I just leave the 403 in it and supe it up? Does
anyone know where I could pick a a cheap, powerful Rocket 350 from around 1970?

3) What would be the cheapest but best hi-performance carb to put on the
403? Is the 403 a good engine to supe up?

I am only 16 so I don't want to dish out TOO much cash. But I luv my
Oldsmobiles.


Shayne Horn
1970 Rallye 350
1985 442

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:42:04 -0700
From: Brad Bowles <wolds@napanet.net>
Subject: build sheet decoding 2

...above the Fan pully and Vac Fittings is this number
BF00586

I don't know what this means either.
Thanks
Brad
70 442

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 97 23:06 EDT
From: Allen_R_MONROE@umail.umd.edu (am39)
Subject: Hydro Boost Brake Problems

Hi All
I normally don't waste much bandwidth here but I really need some assistance
with this one.

I have a 86 Custom Cruiser wagon with what I believe is a one
year only brake system. I believe it is called the Hydro-Boost brakes. It
has no vacuum booster but mounted under the master cylinder is some sort of
electric booster pump which turns on when the brakes are applied and runs
for about 1-2 seconds. The problem is that when the brakes are aplied quickly
the brake warning light and warning bells go off for about one second. If the
brakes are applied slowly no warning devices activate. The brakes seem to
work fine, they stop that barge just like they should. In a panic stop there
is no pulling and under light braking, just as smoth as silk. Just this
anoying light and bell ringing for that split second. If it was the check
engine light I would ignor it and go on my way , but it being the brakes
it's a little nerving. I have always done all of my own auto repair
including brake work, so I am no stranger to normal brake systems. This problem
seemed to start after I put rear brakes on the car, and while I was rebuilding
the rear wheel cylinders the resivor went dry. I keep wondering if I have air
somewhere in the system, I have blead everything two different times, but the
problem remains. Unfortunatly I don't have a 1986 Olds manual, they were out
of stock so I just purchased an 85 manual as I was sure there was no changes
in the car(I was Wrong). Does anyone have a manual that this system is covered
in so I can find out for sure the proper procedures for bleeding or trouble
shooting this system. Or have any of you had any experience with this before.

Thanks in advance
      Allen Monroe
1969 H/O
1973 H/O
1984 Ciera
1986 Custom Cruiser
Email===> am39@umail.umd.edu

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 02:58:21 -0400
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: "Good Samaritan"  (gone bad...)

Well, here's a story worth telling...I'm still p*ssed off about it, too.

I was sitting downstairs in my house, watching Aspen Extreme on TV.  It
was 1:40am, and I had just nicely nodded off to sleep on the couch, when
I heard someone tap on the window.  I woke up, looked over, and went
back to sleep.  Then, I heard someone *knock* on the window fairly
sharply...so I went over and opened it.

There stood a friend of mine (good friend), and six other people (I knew
them all).  They had just come from a party down the road, and they had
been into a good-sized jug of whiskey, too.  It turns out that the
designated driver had now consumed close to a dozen beer, and was ready
to drive them home, which was about 10-15 miles away.  Mark was the only
sober one (my good sleddin' buddy), and he was the one that came up and
banged on the window, because he was more than a little concerned about
everybody riding with a drunk driver.  Now, I've had five of my friends
involved in drunk driving accidents, two seriously hurt, and one
killed.  Of course, I wasn't prepared to let them go with the drunk
driver, so everybody piled into the back of my '78 Delta.  There was
seven of us in total (only one over the legal limit), which was a lot
safer than riding with a driver who's completely s**tfaced.

After driving at 60mph for 10 rural miles, I stopped to drop off the
first person.  I had my window down, and when I stopped, I could smell a
sweet smell...(but I had a girl sitting almost on my lap, who wasn't too
hard on the eyes, and I thought that was her...)  Once the person got
out, I saw a good sized cloud of smoke/steam billow out from under the
hood, followed by sizzling...yep, you guessed 'er!  I got everybody out
of the car, shut her off, and popped the hood, which *was* a dangerous
thing to do...anyway, there was a stream of coolant coming out of the
upper rad hose, about three inches from the block.  After dropping
everybody off at the same place, I headed straight home, but first I
stopped in at the local Subway (where I work), and got a pail of cold
water, and filled the rad and overflow...I left five minutes later, and
headed straight for home.  I drove for about two miles, and stopped to
check the coolant level...the overflow was empty, and I couldn't touch
water through the rad cap (I wouldn't trust the idiot light, neither!).
Since I had about 1/4 of a mile to go (on flat land), I pushed the car
home...not what I'd call easy work, but I did it.  Since my driveway is
hideously steep, I left it at the bottom...

I got a bucket of cold water from my house (now 2:25am), filled the
system, and drove it up the driveway, but now the GEN light was glowing
cherry red!  Could that coolant have shorted out my alternator?  If so,
would letting it sit help it at all?  I don't think I heard the belt
slipping...

Isn't that just a little ironic?  I try and help out my friends who were
in a jam, and I end up damaging my car, burning both hands (I forgot to
mention that), and losing fresh Prestone that was in for only 1600km!
(not to mention a bottle of stop-leak!)

When I finallly got inside, I was furious...a situation like that could
p*ss the Pope off...but, I just try to remind myself this:  if I hadn't
have done this, they could've been killed, because that driver was
pretty much wasted when he left...

I know I'm p*ssed off, and I know I have a right to be, but I don't want
to consider the alternative...

S. Dave Ward

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)=>no coolant
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)=>no gas
'91 GMC 4x4  (305 TBI) =>...why didn't I take the truck!

P.S.--Here's the part I still can't believe...it's now 2:52am, and I
have to get up at 7:30 for work tomorrow!

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:57:49 -0500
From: dnewman@wcbi.com (Doug Newman)
Subject: Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?

babbott@pdnt.com wrote:

>I sell new Oldsmobiles, Pon*iac,B*ick,GMC, and yes even Chrys**r and I've
>got to fid a way to justify spending time reading this list .......... I'll
>make ya a helluva deal.

Tell the marketing weenies at Olds to produce a RWD, two-door Aurora with a
442 appearance and handling package, and you'll have more business than you
can stand :-)  (Oh, and tell them to put a rocket emblem on the front cap
instead of that new "Lansing Lexus" logo they've gone to...)  No flames
intended - just venting at Corporate America.

Doug Newman
Columbus, MS
1987 442

http://www.442.com/newman.html   (Updated by Bryceman 9/18/97)

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:18:41 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: leaky trans lines

> >  I seem to have sprung a leak in my trainy lines when I was doing my
> >  engine swapout in my 77 cutlass, anyone know a quick fix for this or
> >  do I have to "persuede" them in and out of my engine.
> >
> >  - >>
>
> That's simple just solder them. real easy. just get one of those little
> propane torches and some flux and solder and your all set.
> ====================
>
> Hmmmm.... solder? to lines with oily trans fluid in/on them? don't think so.

Please stay away from the solder!!!
A few months back, I was putting on a fan shroud.  This required moving
the radiator about an inch - no big deal, right?  WRONG.  It seems that
one of the trans lines had a crack at a bend that a previous owner
soldered.  Guess what, that movement cracked the solder joint.  I drove
about 60 miles before I found out, luckily I was not stranded, but I did
loose about 2 quarts of ATF.

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 07:54:02 -0700
From: James Thingwold <jht@exo.com>
Subject: Re: Message

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 00:06:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: MORE 403 clues

Dang, I forgot...

The 77 Toro was built in Lansing. Has cruise, separate conventional mechanism.
Other oddity I noticed: The temp sensor, driver's side, front of intake
manifold, has a SCREW-ON connector. Unscrewed, it revealed more or less normal
old 1/4" flat tab connectors. But the screw-on connector is similar to
military, aviation, other extreme applications.

Helps pin down what this disk was for?
- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:50:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: WMACHINES@aol.com
Subject: Re: want to trade my edelbrock performer

In a message dated 97-10-17 22:48:30 EDT, you write:

<< I want to trade my edelbrock (455) performer intake for a torker intake >>

WHY????, Unless you are building an engine that horsepower band is
from 4000 to 6500, stay with the performer.  Its made for torque at low end
with good midrange and if you are looking for more top end, add a 1 inch
carb spacer plate.

W MACHINES

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:45:14 -0400
From: jeff antonucci <antonj@erols.com>
Subject: Re: 442's at Lansing on the Bridge & hot starts

DROLDS350@aol.com wrote:
>
> Thanks! I have headers on my olds. does that make a difference? I don't know
> if I talked to you. Where did you say you could get a heat shield? Do you by
> any chance have a scanner? I was wondering if you could scan some of the
> pictures of my car over to me. Thanks!

My scanner is up and I have the pictures finally.  Which car is yours
and how and in what format should I send you the pictures?

Jeff.

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:28:59 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Mid 80's Cutlass Guage problems

Finally found a fix for my ailment.  I'd had erratic guages since I got
the car.  Never did much to figure it out till recently, but the oil,
temp, gas, and volt guages would read ~way~ off, until I'd smack the
dash.  In winter months, I'd have to smack it more often, which was
tough on cold hands...  (tach has always been fine, btw)  I finally
pulled the cluster apart, and started investigating.  The pc board that
the rallye guages "snap" into has several clips popped into the board,
and studs protruding through to the back of the housing, where nuts hold
them against points on the plastic circuit board.  These seemed a bit
loose.  I pulled it all apart and solderred all the clips to the PC
board,  then solderred the tach plug just cuz I was there.  I stuck the
board back on and tightenned the studs down ~real good~ and stuck 'er
back in.  (mind you, it took ~much~ longer to do that than to write
this...)  Problem solved.  I haven't had a single fluctuation since.
I'm a happy camper there, finally.  Almost like I have a new dash...
(wait a minute, I guess I do. Oh well...)



             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@lyrea.com
             Box 524               | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Sidney, Montana 59270 | http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass 425
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "TRBO LVR" (Maybe???:)| '83 Turbo Regal
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:48:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: H*lp with '77 403?

OK, all youse experts. My service manual collection only goes to '76, and today
I saw something that even baffled *me*. I gotta know what this is...

Went to view a crusty '77 Toronado. OK, flappy doors, no xst system, ravaged
interior, but runs good. And you know what sort of motor a '77 Toro has, right?
Sure you do. The 403. The solid main web 403, right? ;-) Whatever, it's a "good
running" 403 [see earlier list of definitions...]

Ok, to get to the point...

This here 403 had a weird thingy on the harmonic balancer, just aft of the
pulleys. Loos like a sprocket w/ dull teeth. Like a Hall-effect sensor ring.
Diameter about 1-2" greater than that of the balancer. On the driver's side is
some sort of sensor, presumably the Hall effect unit. The burning question,
then:

What IS this thing, what's it do?

No Fuel Injection, plain old HEI ignition, no electrics in the carb. So, what
would a computer do? If not for a computer's info, then why do we need such
accurate info as to crank position or speed?

btw, anyone need a cheap 403? The lady's landlord says move the car...
- --
Chris  B. Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...
wittchri@pilot.msu.edu

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:38:27 -0400
From: cm_hawk@juno.com (Clay V Merenuk)
Subject: 69 442 Zone Dealer Announcement Car

I have the Reliability Copy that came with my 69 442.
It has a list of the factory options, etc.  Under Special
instructions it reads, 1969 Zone Dealer Announcement
Car.  Does anybody know what this means?  I have
talked with the owner of the Dealership and he
remembers the car.  He said it was a showroom
floor car.  The only problem is that he got the car
when it had 2,000 miles on it and from the original
Dealership.  I am unable to get a hold of J. P, Letts
of Jim Letts Oldsmobile, Atlanta, Ga.  On the back of
 New Vehicle Warranty has the persons name and a
sales date of 11-17-69 and under that it reads Demo
10-11-68.  Could it of been a showroom floor car?  Can
anyboby help me understand what all the info. is on the
Reliability Copy?

Clay
69 442 convertible

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:16:29 -0400
From: "Bradford W. Nicholson" <brad442@erols.com>
Subject: [FWD] '68 442 for sale

From the OCA web site.  The gentleman was wondering what to ask for it.
I think it's in Canada (Greg, need another convertible ;-)
=======================================
Subject: Need Advice 68 442 Rag
  Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:09:08 -0400
  From: Rob Lewis <fever@planeteer.com>
    To: brad442@erols.com

Hi . I would like to sell my car  I aquired it in a settlement
Need to know ball park value see it at
http://toronto.planeteer.com/~fever/442.htm
The car is original except paint.
Thank you
Rob
===============================================
 ---
| | | Brad Nicholson
| | | 1987 442 W-42
|/|\| 1994 Eight Eight LSS
| | | Oldsmobile Club of America ª18984
 ---  Oldsmobile Centennial Club - MD
e-Mail: brad442@erols.com
Personal Web Site - http://www.erols.com/brad442
Official OCA Web Site - http://www.erols.com/brad442/oca

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:53:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: DGMCEWEN@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Interesing Info on W41s

I don't think this is correct. Mine from the SCX I sold last year says
P7V850. Here are production colors by ª for 1992. I will post '93 ( 500
units)  soon. This is from someone inside G.M., and they are dead accurate.


1992 total-1146 units.
                                           C41          C60            Total
81U Bright Red                        1             472              473
41U Black                               0             218             218
43U Bright Aqua                      1             196              197
16U Bright White                     1             151             152
21U Neon Blue                        1             50               51
72U Garnet Red                      2             42                44
85U Slate Grey                       0             11                11

Total                                      6             1140
            1146

C41/W41= Race Version, no a/c, Torsen LSD, ETC, ETC.
C60/W41= Street Version, Almost all of the cars sold to the Public.

P.S   If Olds makes a W41 Alero, I will drive my T-bird through the front
window of the local Ford dealer. The SCX is an awesome car, but I hate those
exploding head gaskets!



------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 01:36:35 -0600 (MDT)
From: bhorn@tnc.com (Beverley Horn)
Subject: Olds Questions

I have a few of questions:

1) I have a 1970 Oldsmobile Rallye 350, I am looking for OAI hood pins (I am
not sure of there exact name) because I have one on the left side and am
missing one on the right hand side. I am worried about warping the hood if I
drive too fast. Does anyone know where I could pick up a set of these OAI
hood pins?

2) My Rallye 350 has a 403 in it. The guy I bought it from said that he
wasn't sure where the original engine was. Should I look for a 1970 Rocket
350 to put in it or should I just leave the 403 in it and supe it up? Does
anyone know where I could pick a a cheap, powerful Rocket 350 from around 1970?

3) What would be the cheapest but best hi-performance carb to put on the
403? Is the 403 a good engine to supe up?

I am only 16 so I don't want to dish out TOO much cash. But I luv my
Oldsmobiles.

                                            P.S. What were the specs on a
1973                                                  403? (Compression, hp?)
Shayne Horn
1970 Rallye 350
1985 442

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:32:34 -0400
From: Kurt Heinrich <old442@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Leaky Trans Lines

> >  I seem to have sprung a leak in my trainy lines when I was doing my
> >  engine swapout in my 77 cutlass, anyone know a quick fix for this or
> >  do I have to "persuede" them in and out of my engine.
> >
> >  - >>
>
> That's simple just solder them. real easy. just get one of those little
> propane torches and some flux and solder and your all set.
> ====================
>
> Hmmmm.... solder? to lines with oily trans fluid in/on them? don't think so.

Please stay away from the solder!!!
A few months back, I was putting on a fan shroud.  This required moving
the radiator about an inch - no big deal, right?  WRONG.  It seems that
one of the trans lines had a crack at a bend that a previous owner
soldered.  Guess what, that movement cracked the solder joint.  I drove
about 60 miles before I found out, luckily I was not stranded, but I did
loose about 2 quarts of ATF.

- --
Kurt Heinrich  (mailto:old442@erols.com)
71 442         (see it at http://www.442.com/heinrich.html)

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:27:02 -0600
From: Charley Buehner <buehner@lyrea.com>
Subject: Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?

babbott@pdnt.com wrote:
>
> I sell new Oldsmobiles, Pon*iac,B*ick,GMC, and yes even Chrys**r and
> I've
> got to fid a way to justify spending time reading this list ..........
> I'll
> make ya a helluva deal.

Don't see any ch*vy's there.  Must be a good business...  But what's
with the mopar stuff?  (Move Over, Pontiacs Are Racing!)
- --

             Charley Buehner       | mailto:buehner@lyrea.com
             Box 524               | mailto:charley@rocketship.com
             Sidney, Montana 59270 | http://www.lyrea.com/~buehner
             "Rockit 1"            | '81 Olds Cutlass 425
             "BT UR 4D"            | '70 Buick GS 455
     "TRBO LVR" (Maybe???:)| '83 Turbo Regal
                    Real Cars ~Don't~ Wear Bowties!

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:39:10 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: Upholstery

Clbitz@aol.com wrote:
>
> I'm in need of some upholstery information for my front seats.
> I have a 1988 Olds Touring Sedan.
> GM upholstery book show leathers on my bucket seats but not the inserts.
> The inserts have a texture (pattern holes).
> I have the 18 way power seats.
> Thanks
> Roger Bitzer

The name for the perforated leather inserts in your seats is called
"Morocco grain".  This leather was also used in the Toronado Trofeo and
the Cutlass Ciera International Series.  It was available in Dk Sapphire
Blue, Med Gray, Dk Garnet Red (T/S and Trofeo) and Dk Claret (Ciera).

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

If there is no God, who pops up the next Kleenex in the box?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:06:20 -0700
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Test

Test

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:03:29 -0500
From: "Daren & Laurie Hendley" <daren@revealed.net>
Subject: Re: VIN Locations (was: original frame?)

- -----Original Message-----
From: padavano.joe <padavano.joe@Orbital.COM>
>       I've also heard
>     (but not verified) that the VIN is stamped into the firewall somewhere
>     below the heater box (anyone got the front end off and want to
>     check

Couldn't find it on my '65. The front end is off and I have wire brushed and
repainted the fire wall. If the number stamping was done lightly I could
have wire brushed it off. There is two sets of four numbers about 3-4"
towards the center of the car from the tag on the fire wall but they don't
mach the VIN.

Daren

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:46:01 -0700
From: Eric Aksomitis <big_olds@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Oil Plug size, 72 to 75 455 (9/16 to 7/8)

No, I know of 2 74's and over 5 75's and 76's, 455's and 350's, all of
which take a 9/16 socket to drop the oil , and they are all OLDS
engines, this I am very sure of!  Maybe the oil plug doesn't take a
standard size (whatever they had at the plant in the closest pile,
maybe?)  Something to find out, though, I propose

David Brown (the Olds FAQ compiler) wrote:
> ----------
> My '77 takes a 7/8" socket. I think all Olds V-8 oil pans use a 7/8"
> socket. Maybe the '75 has an aftermarket plug? Some sort of magnetic
> plug? Could it be that the '75 has a Pontiac 400 in it (that was used in
> 1975 88's and 98's, I beleive).

- -------------Self Promo V3.0--------------------------
Eric Aksomitis  http://www.cs.uregina.ca/~aksomi
mailto:big_olds@hotmail.com   See it all, click above
- ------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:15:56 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Slow Email

To All,

Has anyone else noticed that that it's been really slow the last day or so?
Or is it just me?

Jim Chermack

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:18:05 -0500
From: "Mike Krumwiede MIS Technician" <KRUMWIEDE@mis.highland.cc.il.us>
Subject: Re: Leaky Trans Lines

I did get it fixed, I thought I put the post out there the other day,
I was able to use a metal tubing flaring kit and that took care of
it, the rubber hose's kept bursting from pressure, even the fuel line
hose, figured it was the combination of the TH-400 and the 2000 stall
converter were just to much for the rubber hose.

- -------------------------------------------------------
Mike Krumwiede - MIS Technician
Highland Community College
Phone (815) 235-6121
Mailto:Krumwiede@mis.highland.cc.il.us
- -------------------------------------------------------
"Every man dies...not every man really gets a chance to live"

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:22:35 -0500
From: Flipper <phillil@redoak.heartland.net>
Subject: Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?

At 04:52 PM 10/18/97 -0600, you wrote:
>babbott@pdnt.com wrote:
>>
>> I sell new Oldsmobiles, Pon*iac,B*ick,GMC, and yes even Chrys**r and I've
>> got to fid a way to justify spending time reading this list .......... I'll
>> make ya a helluva deal.
>
>I'll take a brand new '68 442!!
>
>
 I'll take a brand new '67 442!!!

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:26:33 -0400
From: Mike Rothe <MROTHE@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: crank journals

>  I have polished my journals using 320 paper then 400 paper soaked in oil the
> journals are very smooth even when i run my fingernail over it . Is this
> sufficient

If they're smooth, then that's what you want. MINOR nicks, scratches
that you can't catch your fingernail on won't hurt anything.  You have
to be sure you don't remove a lot of material, since obviously you only
open up the bearing clearances as you go.  And also if it is a factory
nitrided crank.  Not that it will hurt anything, but the nitriding is
very thin, and a good polishing can take it away.  Clean the crank
inside and out REALLY well afterwards, for obvious reasons.  I did the
same my 455 crank, but used 400 followed by 600.  Haven't had any
problems at all, and the bearing clearances remained tight.
Good luck.

Mike Rothe

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:42:50 +0000
From: Paul Hartlieb <plh@nbn.net>
Subject: Re: '66 D88, Engine?

Tom Lentz wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone here could tell me what engine I'm likely to
> find in this thing?  The FAQ says 400, 425, 330 were available as engines 
that
> year.

Can't tell you this for certain because I don't know what the "D" is.
If it's a Delta, it should have the 425.  But if it's a Dynamic then it
may have the 330, as the 425 was optional on these.

> Is it likely to have the 39 or 45 degree cam bank angle, and which
> lifters?

Have no idea, don't the all have hydraulic lifters, tho?

Paul
- --
Paul Hartlieb
plh@nbn.net
'67 Ninety Eight Holiday Coupe
'72 Cutlass Supreme Convertible

If there is no God, who pops up the next Kleenex in the box?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:44:19 -0500
From: "babbott@pdnt.com" <babbott@pdnt.com>
Subject: Re: Olds go-fast parts

Dave Smith, does he manufacture or sell or both...............phone??

- ----------
> From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
> To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Olds go-fast parts
> Date: Saturday, October 18, 1997 1:54 PM
>
> At 09:50 AM 10/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >Is there anyone else besides Mondello and Dick Miller that specialize in
> >Olds go-fast stuff? I've heard some of you guys mention someone else,
but I
> >don't remember who.
> >
>
> DAVE SMITH

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:42:29 -0500
From: "Daren & Laurie Hendley" <daren@revealed.net>
Subject: Re: Anybody want to buy a new Olds?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Doug Newman <dnewman@wcbi.com>
>
>Tell the marketing weenies at Olds to produce a RWD, two-door Aurora with a
>442 appearance and handling package, and you'll have more business than you
>can stand :-)

I was at Wal-Mart the other looking through a mag (P.M.?) and it had an
article claiming that Caddy is changing two of it's cars to RWD because
according to their statistics luxury car buyers want RWD not FWD. With Olds
going after rice burner upscale/luxury cars hopefully they'll follow Caddy.
I'm not holding my breath though!

>(Oh, and tell them to put a rocket emblem on the front cap
>instead of that new "Lansing Lexus" logo they've gone to...)  No flames
>intended - just venting at Corporate America.
>
Rocket trying to burst Olds new image?

Daren

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:14:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Exhaust, rallye-pac, paint

Hi Everyone,
I would like to decode my exhaust manifolds.
Left
1 at the top
38001LH D4 (139)

Right
398704YRHD5142

They are supposed to be off of a 1970 cutlass w-31. The car has headers on it
now. are they the correct ones for a w31 350?


Rallye-Pac

Is it possible to hook up rallye gauges to a non rallye pac dash? What do you
need to do? Is the wiring already there?

Paint

Is it possible to get sebring yellow paint? Where can you get it? How much
does it cost?

Regarding Rallye350 Stripes?

Is it possible to get a stencil kit and paint the stripes on?

Thanks,
Jim
DROLDS350@aol.com
Naperville, Illinois

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:17:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: DROLDS350@aol.com
Subject: Re: Any Olds guys in IL??

Jim McKeague
Naperville, Illinois

------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:32:26 +0000
From: clarence wirtz <cw63nova@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: "Good Samaritan"  (gone bad...)

>
>>
>Isn't that just a little ironic?  I try and help out my friends who were
>in a jam, and I end up damaging my car, burning both hands (I forgot to
>mention that), and losing fresh Prestone that was in for only 1600km!
>(not to mention a bottle of stop-leak!)
>
>When I finallly got inside, I was furious...a situation like that could
>p*ss the Pope off...but, I just try to remind myself this:  if I hadn't
>have done this, they could've been killed, because that driver was
>pretty much wasted when he left...
>
>I know I'm p*ssed off, and I know I have a right to be, but I don't want
>to consider the alternative...
>
>S. Dave Ward
>
>'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)=>no coolant
>'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)=>no gas
>'91 GMC 4x4  (305 TBI) =>...why didn't I take the truck!
>
>P.S.--Here's the part I still can't believe...it's now 2:52am, and I
>have to get up at 7:30 for work tomorrow!
>


Dave,

I know it dosent seem fair, but you did do the right thing.  A car (even an
OLDS) is replacable at a price.  Friends are not once they are gone they are
gone for good.

I am glad to see that their are still people out there who care about the
things like that.


GOOD JOB!!!

Clarence
86 Cutlass 4dr 307 o/d

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:07:33 -0700
From: "David, Terri and Rob" <hoagie@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: Still cold start problems

W30442CS@aol.com wrote:
>
> just a thought , but have you considerd your fuel pump itself ?   if the
> diaphram inside is weak or torn it could be letting the gas bleed back down
> into your tank.   this is rare, but has happened.  steven. w30442cs@aol.com


steve,
as a general rule if the diaphram is bad...it will leak out of
the bottom of the pump...so...I would find it highly unlikely that the
diaphram would be punctured and not leak.......of course...it may
be leaking...
Hoagie

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:05:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: 69 442 Zone Dealer Announcement Car

In a message dated 97-10-19 14:01:11 EDT, you write:

<< I have the Reliability Copy that came with my 69 442.
 It has a list of the factory options, etc.  Under Special
 instructions it reads, 1969 Zone Dealer Announcement
 Car.  Does anybody know what this means?  I have
 talked with the owner of the Dealership and he
 remembers the car.  He said it was a showroom
 floor car.  The only problem is that he got the car
 when it had 2,000 miles on it and from the original
 Dealership.  I am unable to get a hold of J. P, Letts
 of Jim Letts Oldsmobile, Atlanta, Ga.  On the back of
  New Vehicle Warranty has the persons name and a
 sales date of 11-17-69 and under that it reads Demo
 10-11-68.  Could it of been a showroom floor car?  Can
 anyboby help me understand what all the info. is on the
 Reliability Copy?
  >>
Oftentimes when a new model comes out, the factory will allocate one or two
cars per dealership so that every dealer has the opportunity to have one. And
usually, the cars will be ordered by Zone personnel instead of the dealer.

It appears that your car was ordered by the Zone, and intended for that
dealer to have on hand on Announcement Day, which is the "official" day that
the new models are introduced.

Jon Wessel

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 97 11:08:33 PDT
From: Don R Brower <bhouse@seanet.com>
Subject: [none]

could sombody please stop me!!!!!!!!!! I know this topic has been hit on
before but (I have CRS) could someone please tell me what spindles
(year and make) can I hang on the front of my 66 cutlass to give me
disc brakes I know going fast is fun but stopping makes it so you can
savor the flavor.
                                              thanks
                                         Don Brower
                                         66 cutlass
                                         66 F85 DLX

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:14:32 -0600
From: Dustin Cross <livnrt@mssl.uswest.net>
Subject: Re: "Good Samaritan"  (gone bad...)

Dave Ward wrote:
>
> Isn't that just a little ironic?  I try and help out my friends who were
> in a jam, and I end up damaging my car, burning both hands (I forgot to
> mention that), and losing fresh Prestone that was in for only 1600km!
> (not to mention a bottle of stop-leak!)
>
> When I finallly got inside, I was furious...a situation like that could
> p*ss the Pope off...but, I just try to remind myself this:  if I hadn't
> have done this, they could've been killed, because that driver was
> pretty much wasted when he left...

you did the right thing, I'd rather swap an engine than go to a funeral!!
sounds like it was just bad timing the car probably would have done it anyway
shortly.

Dustin

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:26:28 -0600
From: Dustin Cross <livnrt@mssl.uswest.net>
Subject: Re: New find, future hunt?

Charley Buehner wrote:
>
> Went cruising around the back roads of Sidney last week, on the way to
> install a satellite dish,

lot easier than working on cars isnt it?

> sitting next to (what appears to be) a 67 Ninety Eight 2 door hardtop.

Quit Buying cars!!    I'm getting behind!!  I havent gotten a new one since 
last
spring thought I had a good buyer for the body of that '70 98 I was looking at
but he was in VA. so it was a little bit expensive to get a whole car out there

going to Havre Thurs to pick up the '89  HOPING it is done  HOPING it is done
right HOPING  after dropping another 3 K on that shiney overpriced FWD it might
actually get me laid!!

Tyler Smith called this morning, he just got a job in seattle puting TV cable 
in
the ground    pay is excellent   thinking I might be able to take a break from
school for what this job pays.

Did you have a chance to look for that install manual for the Code CSM?   I'm
hoping to put that in this weekend

Later
     Dustin

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:33:32 -0700
From: "David, Terri and Rob" <hoagie@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: Olds Questions

Beverley Horn wrote:
>
> I have a few of questions:
>
> 1) I have a 1970 Oldsmobile Rallye 350, I am looking for OAI hood pins (I am
> not sure of there exact name) because I have one on the left side and am
> missing one on the right hand side. I am worried about warping the hood if I
> drive too fast. Does anyone know where I could pick up a set of these OAI
> hood pins?
>
> 2) My Rallye 350 has a 403 in it. The guy I bought it from said that he
> wasn't sure where the original engine was. Should I look for a 1970 Rocket
> 350 to put in it or should I just leave the 403 in it and supe it up? Does
> anyone know where I could pick a a cheap, powerful Rocket 350 from around
1970? > > 3) What would be the cheapest but best hi-performance carb to put on
the > 403? Is the 403 a good engine to supe up? > > I am only 16 so I don't
want to dish out TOO much cash. But I luv my > Oldsmobiles. > >
P.S. What were the specs on a > 1973
403? (Compression, hp?) > Shayne Horn > 1970 Rallye 350 > 1985 442


Beverly
the hood pins are available from Year One...Partª AS105 at 49.00
a set you can call them at 1-800-950-9503...(I know that number by
heart) as for the motor...what brain surgeon stuck that mill in
there...wow...he dropped the value threefold....a window sticker and
numbers matching motor would help the value alot..but some things you
just can't change....if it were me..I would try to find a suitable
nostalgia motor..something more in date with the car...the 1970 rallye
350 had a strong mill (noted in the specification and feature manual) as
a L-74 350 cu. in. 350 H.P. high compression engine with 3.23 standard
rear axle..and if it has the ridged D-35 sports mirrors...those are VERY
cool....if its a good ª3 to ª4 car its worth putting some extra effort
to make it more inline with the times in which it was built....Hoagie

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:55:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: W30442CS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Slow Email

jim , yes  it seem`s to be a little slow lately.   steven.  w30442cs@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 01:44:34 -0400
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale

                                        C&M Classic Parts
                                      1132 Chatmoss Drive
                                    Virginia Beach, VA 23464
                                         (757)474-0869 or
                                      <chermac@exis.net>
Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm, Sat 9:00 am - 6:00 pm, Sunday Closed
We accept all major Credit Cards. VISA, M/C, Amer. Express, and Discover.
New Parts: ____________________________________________________________________
66 442 Grille w/Bar (nice)  $200.00
66 442 W-30 Core Support  (nice) $150.00
66 442/Cutlass Rear Bumper (rechromed, nice) $300.00
66 442 LH/RH Fenders (no rust)  $550.00 pr
67-69  3 Spd. Auto Console (black, complete, nice)  $175.00
69 TH400 (OG Code) HP rebuild  (less than 200 miles) $500.00
69-72  Bench Seat Headrests (black, mint)  $45.00 pr
68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $85.00
68-72 350 Exhaust Manifolds (nice sets)  $40.00 set
68-72 Arm Rest Pad Bases (front, black)  $20.00 pr
68-72 Arm Rest Pad Bases (rear, post coupe, black)  $20.00 pr
68 Turn Signal Lens (mint)  $12.00 ea
68-69 14x6 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
68-69 Power Antenna Assm (no switch, has adapter, needs mast)  $35.00
68-72 Rear Defrost  (no switch)  $30.00
68-72 2 Door Chassis (coupe, solid)  $300.00 (you arrange shipping or pickup)
69-72 Column Shift Steering Column (plain)  $45.00
69-70 Console Shift Steering Column (non-tilt)  $100.00
64-72 Power Window Motors  (excellent cond) $50.00 ea
68-72 LH Convertible Pillar Post Molding (interior side, nice, black)  $35.00
68-72 Power Steering setup  (complete)  $60.00
70-72 Power Lock Solenoids (electric)  $35.00 ea
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
70-72 14x7 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
70-72 455 Engine Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $40.00 pr
68-72 350 Engine Mount (NEW, Made in USA)  $38.00 pr
64-72 Jetaway/TH350, 4 Spd Muncie Trans Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $14.00
67-72 TH400 Trans Mounts (NEW, made in USA)  $17.00 ea
70-75 Sport Steering Wheels (black, nice centers, complete)  $150.00 ea
Bumper Bracket sets ALL years  $25.00 pr

New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts for 1964-1972 Cutlass/442
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66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea
69 Cutlass RH Grilles (N.O.S.) $85.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
70-72 Cutlass/442 LH Fenders (N.O.S. (3) left) $495.00 ea
71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr
71-72 Stone Shields (N.O.S.) $38.00 ea
71-72 Headlight Housings (plastic) (N.O.S.) $80.00 pr
71-72 Cutlass Rear Bumpers (N.O.S. (4) left) $400.00 ea
71-75  Cutlass Fender Emblems (N.O.S.)  $19.50 ea
72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr

Used Parts
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64 Cutlass/442
RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00
Front Bumper Core  $50.00
F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00

65 Cutlass/442
65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  $10.00 ea
65 Hood Molding (fair cond)  $10.00
65 425 111089 Distributor  $20.00

66 Cutlass/442
66  400/425 "B" dash 1 heads (66 Big Block) Big Valves (bare) $250.00
66  Cutlass/442 Side Chrome moldings (almost complete set) Inquire
66 442 Side Mount Tach (maroon, works, nice)  $245.00
66 F-85 Post Coupe Doors (very good cond)  $125.00 ea, 220.00 pr
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00
66 F-85 Trunk Lid  (nice)  $120.00
66 330 cu in 2 bbl engine (complete w/trans, 17,000 original miles)  $300.00
66 Cutlass/442 Hood Molding  (fair cond, small crack)  $15.00
66-67 AM Radios (nice)  $30.00 ea
66-67 RH Hardtop Doors (very nice)  $130.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
66 Cutlass/442 Full Turbine Hubcaps (very, very nice)  $200.00 set
Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea

67 Cutlass/442
66-67 Rear Side window lower U-seals (new, Metro Moulded)  $18.00 pr
67 W-30 Core Support (Factory stamped, bent on drivers side)  $225.00
67 W-30 Track Pac Core Support (nice, cutouts)  $300.00
67 W-30 Inner Ducts (originals, mint)  $300.00 pr
67 400 442 intake manifolds ª390390  $90.00 ea
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
67 Rear Defrost setup (w/switch)  $55.00
66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $30.00 ea
66-67 RH Hardtop/Conv Doors (very nice)  $130.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
67 F-85 Rear Bumper (very good condition)  $75.00
67 442 Grille Bar  (good)  $30.00
67 442 Hood (some rust)  $85.00
67 Front Bumper (straight, core)  $70.00
67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $55.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $130.00 ea
67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $3.00
67 442 Chrome Trunk Panel (excellent)  $135.00
67 442 Tail Light Bezels (some pitting)  $60.00 pr
67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $200.00

68 Cutlass/442
68 AM Radio  $25.00
68  8-Track Unit (housing cracked, needs plastic one)  $65.00
68 Hood Hinges  $55.00 pr
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00
Rear Window Molding Sets  $85.00 set
68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00
68 Air Cleaner Stove Pipe (pipe only)  $10.00
68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $40.00 ea
68-72 Cowl mouldings  $35.00 ea
68-72 B-Pillar Molding Set (black, mint) $27.50 pr

69 Cutlass/442
69 Cruise Control Switch and Bezel  $25.00
69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
69 Tail Light Bezels (nice, pit free)  $155.00 pr
69 Trunk Lid (Conv, nice)  $200.00
69 Bucket Seats (black)  $50.00 pr
69 Headlight Bezels  $60.00 pr
69 Lower Dash (radio area)  (nice)  $45.00
69 C/S Side Moldings (mint, no pits)  $20.00 ea
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
69 Cutlass/442 Doors 2 dr Hardtop (mint pair)  $300.00 pr / $160.00 ea
69-72 Hood Hinges  $50.00 pr

69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $35.00 pr

69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $35.00 pr

68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $65.00 set
68-72 Fastback Rear Window Molding Sets  $85.00 set

69-72 Floor Shift Steering Column (very good)  $100.00
69 Cutlass/442 Front Bumper (good cond) $100.00
69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $250.00
69 Rear Bumper (V05 rub strip) one small ding  $135.00
69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $75.00 ea
69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $40.00 ea

70 Cutlass/442
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70-72 RH Door (Coupe/Conv)  $125.00
70-72 Wide Chrome window moldings (with sweepers)  $100.00 set
70 350 4 bbl Stick engine (complete, minus carb runs great)  $275.00
70 FLAT Fender RH (small metal patch panel installed nice)  $300.00
70 Cutlass Supreme Door Panels (black mint) 4 for $100.00
70 Sport Mirrors (1 set left)  $155.00 set
70 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $125.00
70 442/SX/Rally 350 Rear Cutout Bumper (CORE)  $110.00
70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $75.00
70-72 Std. Auto Console Shift Lens  (repro)  $23.00 ea
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea
70 RH Sport Mirror Shell  $40.00
70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00
69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00
69-70 "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $35.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $35.00 pr
70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr
70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $100.00
70-72 Black A/C Dash Pads  $120.00 ea
70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
70-72 RH Fender (has small patch panel)   $200.00
70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens   $17.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens  $23.00 ea

71 Cutlass/442
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70-72 RH Door (Coupe/Conv)  $125.00
71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
71-72 Fender RH (small metal patch in bottom)  $250.00
71 Bucket Seats (need recovering, white, plastic rough)  $35.00 pr
71 C/S Door Panels (white w/pwr windows)  $40.00 pr
71-72 W-455 Aluminum intake ((2) 1/8th in repaired cracks) $675.00
71 350 4 bbl Engine (complete, carb to pan, runs excellent) $250.00
71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
71-72 Sport Mirrors (excellent cond)  $100.00 pr
71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
71 Front Rocket Emblem (nice)  $5.00
70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea
71 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr

72 Cutlass/442
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70-72 RH Door (Coupe/Conv)  $125.00
71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
71-72 10 Bolt 2.56:1 (open rear)  $75.00
71-72 Sport Mirrors (excellent cond)  $100.00 pr
72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00
71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
72 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr

We will be at the AACA swapmeet on the 15th of November in Chesapeake VA.

* Due to the rarity of some parts, we reserve the right to make market
adjustments on prices without notice.

Jim Chermack
OCA ª24275

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