
oldsmobile-digest     Thursday, November 27 1997     Volume 01 : Number 975



3 on tree continued..
Re: hello
Re: Misc. Items found
Re: Odd parts for '72 442 needed
Hooker Cat-back system
Re: 455 in a pickup
Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale 
TEST
Fwd: Rear Drum Upgrade on '67 CS
Fwd: Chrome Bumpers
Re: 307->409
Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale 
Re: car humor
Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers
Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers
PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale 
Re: Outsiders 2 Cents
Re: Outsiders 2 Cents
Re: Speakers - MAYBE an Olds Subject
Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers
Re: Speakers - MAYBE an Olds Subject
Re: [Fwd: Magazine]
'67 442 with 455 and 200r4 transmission
Re: Power Steering Gear Swap
Re: Minor Things
Oldsmobile Diesel 350 Mondello stroker parts for sale.
Re: Power doors
Re: ADMIN: reply to whoever
Re: ADMIN: reply to whoever (watch your toes!)
Re: Impulsive Decisions
Re: On the way to Work...
Re: A-body interchange and big brakes
big block motor question
Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers
Re: Speakers - MAYBE an Olds Subject
Buick-GN web site
Re: Buick-GN web site
Re: Buick-GN web site
Re: partsvoice
Re: Power Antennas
metal thingy
403/ 68 w/th350 B.S>
toro oil pan removal
1969.5 442
'70 Olds 88
Re: ADMIN: reply to whoever
UNBOUNCE: 1969 442
Re: '67 442 with 455 and 200r4 transmission/ Edelbrock Mani
Stroking an Olds?
Re: Grill
Re: '70 Olds 88
Re: Rear Drum Upgrade on '67 CS
Re: Power Antennas
EGR question
Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #946

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:40:28 -0500 (EST)
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: 3 on tree continued..

   everett,saw where you answered the article on 3 on the tree...
      did you see the article about the 77 vista cruiser....

         looking foward to seeing the pictures.... thanks jeff

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:45:53 -0500 (EST)
From: DEOVIVERE@aol.com
Subject: Re: hello

In a message dated 97-11-26 21:34:50 EST, you write:

<<  tom, hi any word on the right side 70 mirror?
      what kind of deal can we make on the LH side
 
     thanks   jeff.....
  >>

Hey guys -

You could send this private conversation privately, you know.  Using each
other's email addresses and not the list's will save bandwidth and the
trouble for the rest of us of deleting what doesn't concern us.

Thought I'd toss in this $.02 while everyone is kicking up dust on proper
list etiquette.

Thanks

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:50:07 -0500 (EST)
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Misc. Items found

   how much for the 71 442 own man     

       thanks olds guy   atl ga.....

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:55:19 -0500 (EST)
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Odd parts for '72 442 needed

did you find a window reg yet  olds guy can help


    jeff  atl  ga....

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Date: 26 Nov 1997 20:22:24 PST
From: mjones@gleep.com
Subject: Hooker Cat-back system

Has anybody modified the hooker cat-back system for the A-G body to fit
on a B-body before?  I'd like to experiment with it on my '78 Delta 88.

Mike Jones
'78 Delta 88

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:39:30 -0500
From: Trevor Lee <lee@mergetel.com>
Subject: Re: 455 in a pickup

> I'm toying with the idea of puttin a 455 into my '80 ch*v (ducking in anticipation of
> flames!)   I was wondering if anyone had done a similar project?   I'm mostly wondering
> about the motor mounts, if the Olds ones will just bolt up or if I'll have to do some
> "moderfercations"    I think I have a t400 from a deisel lined up if I do the swap

        Dustin, I am next to positive that you WILL have to do some mods to get the Oldsie
mounting brackets to bolt to the Chevy frame....reason I say this is this:  I just did the
exact opposite kind of swap that you wanna do - I put a Bigblock Chevy motor into my '76
Olds Cutlass.  When I yanked the 403 Oldsie motor from the bay, I discovered about a dozen
holes on either side of the crossframe memeber (picture:
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/pics/htms/pic14.htm).  In the picture, the mounts on
the back of the crossframe (closest to the firewall) are the 403 mounts.  The Chevy mounts
used the front-most holes.  In my '76 Chevy Monte Carlo (same year as the Cutlass) I cannot
see any other holes on the frame other than the ones used to mount the 305 mounts (standard
Chevy mounts).  I'm not completely sure if the trucks of this era were the same in
principle, but the reason that the Chevy frame doesn't have the extra holes for brackets
such as Oldsmobile is because the Chevy cars always came with only Chevy engines (as far as
I'm aware, correct me if I'm wrong).  However, the Oldsmobile/Buick/Pontiacs did have
engines from other divisions (like Chevy) put into them, hence the reason for all the
mounting holes in my Oldsmobile frame, but not in the Chevy frame.

> for pulling trailers, projects, f*rds, ect.  I figure with a 455,t400,4:10s the ch*v
> will be almost acceptable     I will have to make a new grill with a "rocket" emblem so
> I can ditch the "bowtie"  ;)

        Sounds like a nice project, Dustin.  Just be careful and make sure that the race car
you're TOWIN' is faster than the vehicle you're towin' it with!!  =B)
- --
Trevor Lee (aka Screech), Owner - TL Tech
Rat-Powered '76 Cutlass Supreme Brougham
http://www.mergetel.com/~lee/cutlass/
mailto:lee@mergetel.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:25:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon442@aol.com
Subject: Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale 

Jim, please keep me in mind if you get some W and Z exhaust manifolds...

Jon Wessel
jon442@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:33:19 -0500 (EST)
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: TEST

...just to see how long it takes for this to post...

CoupeKing

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:35:18 -0500 (EST)
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Rear Drum Upgrade on '67 CS

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Forwarded message:
Subj:    Rear Drum Upgrade on '67 CS
Date:    97-11-25 13:08:52 EST
From:    COUPE KING
To:      oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

Am now rebuilding the rearend/susp on my '67 convert. Took the 12 bolt 3.08
to Hooper's in Sun Valley to rebuild and convert to Posi--$250 seemed pretty
reasonable.

Now while I'm at it, I want to bolt on some larger rear drums to complement
my new front discs. But roaming the local Pick-your-Part can't seem to easily
find the bigger brakes with a proper compatible bolt pattern for the backing
plates.

Anybody out there "been there, done that" can tell me where to look?

Thanks
Peter Sliskovich
CoupeKing@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:36:25 -0500 (EST)
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Chrome Bumpers

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Forwarded message:
Subj:    Chrome Bumpers
Date:    97-11-25 23:35:31 EST
From:    COUPE KING
To:      oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca

Just got back my '68 442 rear bumper from Mike Aldana. Beautiful work, and
reasonable price. Am very satisfied.

CoupeKing

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:56:09 +1300
From: "Dave.T.Smith" <Km-Nuku@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: 307->409

BIGJERMES@aol.com wrote:
> 
> sorry, but no other olds block can be bored to the size of the 403.  not even
> the diesel 350 blocks 403s can be somewhat safely bored to .40 over 

Now that you've mentioned the 350 dx blocks, what is the max that they
can be bored out to?  The reason I ask is that a while back there was an
interesting thread about the 350 diesel blocks and modified 425 steel
cranks making some big cubes.  Did I get this right?  Can anyone clarify
this?  If this motor can be made, it would be a good project.....

Thanx


- -- 
Dave.T.Smith
403 Old's
39' Chev
N.Z.

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:11:49 -0500
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: Re: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale 

At 11:25 PM 11/26/97 -0500, you wrote:
Jon

        Not a problem. Are tehy for a show car or street car? What condition
do you want/need?

Jim Chermack

>Jim, please keep me in mind if you get some W and Z exhaust manifolds...
>
>Jon Wessel
>jon442@aol.com
>

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:16:17 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: car humor

Geo Prism - My mom and dad bought this for me.

Chevy Blazer/GMC Jimmy - Hey, 2.8s are purrfect motors.

Dodge Grand Monaco - I want MY share of the road.

Ferrari (Any of them) - I own this road.

Mazda RX7 - I am renting this road.

Mazda MX6 - Who says I can't pretend I own this road.

Pontiac Grad Prix Wide Track - Wider is better.

Yugo - I want a cheap classic in the making.

Pontiac LeMans (Mid 80's) - See also, Yugo

Honda CRX - It may be little but these 15 inch speakers sound great in
it.

Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer - I MIGHT just have to 4WD over a strip of
dirt someday.

Pontiac Sunfire - Mom said I could borrow her car.

Suzuki Samari - This 4WD really flies!

Fiat - I LOVE my dependable Jag XJ6
- -- 
             		    Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__, 	     1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:28:32 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers

Beverley Horn wrote:

> I have an 1985 Cutlass 442. I have 2 10-inch sub-woofers, an amp running
> them, 

I don't want them anymore, infact, I am selling them in my 77 Mustang
II, 2 Pioneer Competition Free Air 10s mounted on baffle board...  I did
like the feel, but it's not my style anymore.

> and I also have 3" speakers in the front and 6x9's in the rear. The
> 6x9's are Pioneer,

Whose 3s??  And how would you rate??  If you blew them before reading
this message, would you use them again?  

Pioneers....  Same as above, and what number "Way" are they, 1-Way,
2-Way, 3 or 4 Way?  Would you use them again as well?

> and my deck is a Panasonic Rebel Gear Deack. This system

No thanx..  I got a Kenwood in and running, the first CD Player I've
loved totally, and would replace it with the same model in a heart beat!
<G>  It's got some outrageous power and looks awesome..  Powered the 2
10s alone for a while....

> overall sound quality. I recommend it to you very much. It also won't creep
> into your wallet to bad. 

That's been my fear...  I'm giving it a one shot deal, no playing
around, one set and that's it....  Until I blow em.

- -- 
             		    Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__, 	     1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:30:22 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers

John Pajak wrote:

> Question! How do you get the 6x9s in the back deck? I thought the rear
> openings are 4x10 in the G body cars. I need new speakers in my 86 and
> if the 6x9s could be installed ~easily~ I'd do it!

I will put them in, and make 'em work...  <G>  I currently have 1 4X10
Delco and one 6 1/2 3Way Pioneer sandwiched on the mouting bracket in
there...  It is an tight fit, but it works.
- -- 
             		    Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__, 	     1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:35:29 -0500
From: Jim & Joanne Chermack <chermac@exis.net>
Subject: PARTS: 442/Cutlass Parts For Sale 

                                        C&M Classic Parts
                                      1132 Chatmoss Drive
                                    Virginia Beach, VA 23464
                                         (757)474-0869 or
                                      <chermac@exis.net>
Hours:  Mon-Fri  6:00 pm - 10:00 pm, Sat 9:00 am - 6:00 pm, Sunday Closed
We accept all major Credit Cards. VISA, M/C, Amer. Express, and Discover.
New Parts:
Lots of new reproduction parts will be coming out in January. 
____________________________________________________________________ 
64-66 Auto Floor Shifter (T handle type, complete minus T )  $100.00
65-(early) 66 Plain Full Wheel Covers (4, mint)  $30.00 
66 F-85 Deluxe Wheel Well Moldings (3, mint, missing RF)  $90.00 (3)
66-68 Bucket Seat Backs (2) and Sides (4) (metal, nice, black)  $75.00 all
66 Cutlass Tail Light Bezels (very good)  $85.00 pr
67 4 spd Speedometer Adapter (3.42 gears & 4spd)  $45.00
67 Cutlass Plain Full Hubcaps (4, mint)  $30.00
67 Plain Cutlass Holiday Hardtop interior door panels and rear sides (very
nice, blue/green) $85.00 set of 4
68-69 Cutlass "S"/442 Wheel Well Moldings (nice, 3)  $90.00 (3)
69 Turn signal Lens (nice)  $35.00 pr
69 Backup Lens (mint)  $25.00 pr
69 Cutlass RH Grille (nice, used)  $40.00
69-72 LH "W" Manifold (pitted)  $85.00
70-72 Lower A/C Vents (for 8 Track car, mint, black)  $90.00 pr 
70-72 Dash Pad and Dash Plastic (radio area, green, mint)  $185.00
66-67 Toro Dual Snorkel Air cleaner  (mint) $50.00
67-68 Big Cars AM/FM Stereo (nice, works well)  $95.00
75-8? Starfire Sport Steering Wheel (Tan)  $35.00
64-72 330/350 Exhaust Manifolds (nice sets)  $40.00 set
69-72  Bench Seat Headrests (black, mint)  $45.00 pr
68-72 Arm Rest Pad Bases (front, black)  $20.00 pr
68-72 Arm Rest Pad Bases (rear, post coupe, black)  $20.00 pr
68-72 Rear Defrost  (no switch)  $30.00
68-72 2 Door Chassis (coupe, solid)  $300.00 (you arrange shipping or pickup)
69-72 Column Shift Steering Column (plain)  $45.00
69-70 Console Shift Steering Column (non-tilt)  $100.00
64-72 Power Window Motors  (excellent cond) $50.00 ea
68-72 LH Convertible Pillar Post Molding (interior side, nice, black)  $35.00 
68-72 Power Steering setup  (complete)  $60.00
70 350 engine "7" heads (9000 miles, 10.0 comp, 328 stick cam)  $500.00
70 LH/RH Hood "L" moldings (few small pits under side, nice chrome) $85.00 pr
70-72 455 Engine Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $40.00 pr
68-72 350 Engine Mount (NEW, Made in USA)  $38.00 pr
64-72 Jetaway/TH350, 4 Spd Muncie Trans Mount (NEW, made in USA)  $14.00 
67-72 TH400 Trans Mounts (NEW, made in USA)  $17.00 ea
(6) Hurst Wheels 14x6 (5 on 4 3/4) nice  $2300.00 
70-75 Sport Steering Wheels (black, nice centers, complete)  $130.00 ea
70-71 Buick GS Ram Air cleaner (nice)  $155.00
72 Buick GS Ram Air cleaner (mint restored)  $200.00
Bumper Bracket sets ALL years  $25.00 pr

****Lots of  66-68 Toronado Parts too.****

New Old Stock (N.O.S.) Parts for 1964-1972 Cutlass/442
_______________________________________________     
65 Cutlass/442 PO2 Deluxe Wheelcovers (N.O.S.)  $350.00
66-72 SSI Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                           
68-75 SSII/III Center Caps (N.O.S.) $36.50 ea                       
69 Cutlass RH Grilles (N.O.S.) $85.00 ea                             
70 Cutlass Supreme Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr
70-72 LH Coupe/Conv Door Skin (N.O.S.)  $200.00
70-72 Cutlass/442 LH Fenders (N.O.S. (1) left) $495.00 ea               
71-72 Turn Signal Lens (N.O.S.)  $90.00 pr                          
71-72 Stone Shields (N.O.S.) $38.00 ea                              
71-72 Headlight Housings (plastic) (N.O.S.) $80.00 pr          
71-72 Cutlass Rear Bumpers (N.O.S. (2) left) $400.00 ea               
71-75  Cutlass Fender Emblems (N.O.S.)  $19.50 ea            
72 Cutlass Supreme & Hurst/Olds Grilles (N.O.S.)  $120.00 pr

Used Parts
_______________________________________________      
64 Cutlass/442                       
RH Headlight Bezel  $15.00                                                  
Front Bumper Core  $50.00                                                   
F-85 Fender Emblem (nice)  $5.00                                      

65 Cutlass/442
65 442 Side Vents (very good)  $75.00 pr
65 442 Air Cleaner (top only, mint)  $175.00
65 Cutlass/442 Wheelwell Moldings  LH/RH rear $15.00 ea
65 425 111089 Distributor  $20.00

66 Cutlass/442
66 Turbine Full Wheel Covers (4) good  $80.00 set
66-67 Hood Hinges (nice sets)  $40.00 pr
66 Cutlass/442 Side Chrome moldings (almost complete set) Inquire
66 F-85 Post Coupe Doors (very good cond)  $90.00 ea, 170.00 pr
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (nice)   $55.00
66 F-85/Cutlass grille (good)  $35.00 
66 330 cu in 2 bbl engine (complete w/trans, 17,000 original miles)  $300.00  
66 Cutlass/442 Hood Molding  (fair cond, small crack)  $15.00
66-67 AM Radios (nice)  $30.00 ea
66-67 RH Hardtop Doors (very nice)  $90.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
66 Cutlass/442 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
Post Coupe Exterior A-Pillar Chrome Moldings  $15.00 pr                        
F-85/Cutlass Taillight Lens  $10.00 ea                                  

67 Cutlass/442
66-67 Hood Hinges (nice sets)  $40.00 pr
67 442 Chrome Air cleaner (late version with no snorkel, nice)  $100.00
67 Cutlass Jetaway Trans (low miles, w/switch pitch converter)  $125.00
67 Cutlass/F-85 Grille Bar (very nice, no cracks, good chrome)  $45.00
67-69 Power Antenna assm (nice, no switch)  $45.00
67 400 442 #1111042 Distributor  $35.00
66-67 Rear Side window lower U-seals (new, Metro Moulded)  $18.00 pr
67 W-30 Core Support (Factory stamped, bent on drivers side)  $225.00
67 Cutlass Hood (mint)  $100.00
67 Cutlass Fender Emblems (nice)  $10.00 ea
67 Plain Cutlass Fender Rockets (nice)  $5.50 ea
67 Rear Defrost setup (w/switch)  $45.00
66-67 AM Radios  (nice)  $30.00 ea
66-67 RH Hardtop/Conv Doors (very nice)  $90.00 ea
66/67 Repro Radio Delete Plates (perfect repro)  $40.00
66/67 Repro Heater Delete Plates  (perfect repro)  $40.00  ($78.00 set)
67 F-85 Rear Bumper (very good condition)  $75.00
67 Front Bumper (straight, core)  $70.00
67 Cutlass Headlight Bezels (nice)  $50.00 pr
67 442 Trunk Lids (clean)  $90.00 ea
67 442 Pie Tin Decal  $3.00
67 RH Fender (small metal patch panel, straight)  $165.00

68 Cutlass/442
68-69 Cutlass/442 Post Coupe LH Door  $85.00
68 Turn Signal Lens (mint)  $12.00 ea
68 Cutlass Rear Bumper (core)  $75.00
68-69 14x6 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
68-69 Power Antenna Assm (no switch, has adapter, needs mast)  $25.00
68 AM Radio  $25.00
68  8-Track Unit (housing cracked, needs plastic one)  $65.00
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel  4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-72 Cutlass S LH Rear Side Glass (clear)  $35.00              
Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set                               
68 Cutlass/442 Std Horn Button (black, nice)  $7.00                     
68 Air Cleaner Stove Pipe (pipe only)  $10.00                              
68-72 Rear Hood Molding  $40.00 ea                                            
68-72 Cowl mouldings  $25.00 ea                                
68-72 B-Pillar Molding Set (black, mint) $27.50 pr 

69 Cutlass/442
69 Rallye Pack (Gauge side only)  $75.00
69 442 RH Grille (nice) $50.00
69 Cruise Control Switch and Bezel  $25.00
69 Radiator Core Support 3 Row (mint, no rust holes)  $150.00
69 Tail Light Bezels (nice, pit free)  $135.00 pr
69 Trunk Lid (Conv, nice)  $175.00
69 Headlight Bezels  $60.00 pr
69 Lower Dash (radio area)  (nice)  $35.00
69 C/S Side Moldings (mint, no pits)  $15.00 ea
68-69 Driver Side Remote Mirror (good)  $45.00
68-69 LH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
68-69 RH Quarter Panel 4 door (mint)  $135.00
69 Cutlass/442 Doors 2 dr Hardtop (mint pair)  $200.00 pr / $110.00 ea
69-72 Hood Hinges  $40.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Chrome  $25.00 pr
69-70 "S" Hood Louver Moldiings  $25.00 pr
68-72 Windshield Molding Sets  $45.00 set                                 
68-72 Fastback Rear Window Molding Sets  $45.00 set
69-72 Floor Shift Steering Column (very good)  $95.00
69 LH Top Fender Moldings (excellent) $35.00
69 RH Fender (small nickel sized hole)  $200.00
69 Rear Bumper (V05 rub strip) one small ding  $135.00
69 Front and Rear 4 Doors  (small dings, no rust) $55.00 ea
69 4 Door Panels (Gold, cloth, nice)  $25.00 ea

70 Cutlass/442
70-72 Rallye Pack (Tach only, works needs needle end)  $125.00
70 Std Auto console neutral safety switch w/bracket  $65.00
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 Power Lock Solenoids (electric)  $35.00 ea
70-72 14x7 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70-72 RH Door (Coupe/Conv)  $110.00
70-72 Wide Chrome window moldings (with sweepers)  $50.00 set
70 350 4 bbl Stick engine (complete, minus carb runs great)  $275.00
70 FLAT Fender RH (small metal patch panel installed nice)  $300.00 
70 Cutlass Supreme Door Panels (black mint) 4 for $100.00
70 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr
70 Cutlass Supreme Hood (excellent)  $115.00
70 442/SX/Rally 350 Rear Cutout Bumper (CORE)  $110.00
70-71 Halo Vinyl Top Molding sets no "L " moldings (mint) $55.00 set
70-72 455 Std. Iron intake manifold (auto cars)  $55.00
70-72 Std. Auto Console Shift Lens  (repro)  $23.00 ea (backordered)
70-72 Vista Cruiser Tailgate Switch Bezels  $5.00 ea             
70 RH Sport Mirror Shell  $40.00
70 F-85 Horn Button (cheap style wheel, excellent)  $10.00
70 Oldsmobile Options Folder  $5.00                                    
69-70 C/S Front Hood Rocket (nice)  $12.00                                
69-70 "S" Hood Chrome Vents  $25.00 pr                                        
69-70 "S" Hood Vent Moldings  $25.00 pr                                        
70 "S" Pillared Coupe Door Panels (good cond)  $40.00 pr         
70 Cutlass Rear Bumper Core  $90.00                                  
70-72 Black A/C Dash Pads  $100.00 ea                  
70-72 Glove Box Doors  $15.00 ea
70-72 RH Fender (has small patch panel)   $185.00                               
70 Cutlass 'S' Tail Light Lens   $17.00 ea
70 Cutlass Supreme Tail Light Lens  $23.00 ea

71 Cutlass/442
70-72 Rallye Pack (Tach only, works needs needle end)  $125.00
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 Power Lock Solenoids (electric)  $35.00 ea
70-72 14x7 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70-72 RH Door (Coupe/Conv)  $110.00
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
71-72 Fender RH (small metal patch in bottom)  $185.00
71 C/S Door Panels (white w/pwr windows)  $40.00 pr
71-72 W-455 Aluminum intake ((2) 1/8th in repaired cracks) $675.00
71 350 4 bbl Engine (complete, carb to pan, runs excellent) $250.00
71 Cutlass Full Wheel Covers  $30.00 set
71-72 Sport Mirrors (excellent cond)  $90.00 pr 
71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
71 Front Rocket Emblem (nice)  $5.00
70-72 C/S LH/RH Side Glass  $25.00 ea 
71 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr

72 Cutlass/442
70-72 Rallye Pack (Tach only, works needs needle end)  $125.00
70-72 LH Fender (dimpled, nice)  $185.00
70-72 Power Lock Solenoids (electric)  $35.00 ea
70-72 14x7 SSII Wheels (set of 5)  $200.00
70-72 C/S Quarter End Caps (nice) $40.00 pr
70-72 RH Door (Coupe/Conv)  $115.00
71-72 Power Lock Switches  $12.00 ea
71-72 Power Window Switches (nice)  $25.00 (4) button,  $10.00 singles
71-72 10 Bolt 2.56:1 (open rear)  $75.00
71-72 Sport Mirrors (excellent cond)  $90.00 pr 
72 Cutlass/442 Owners Manual  $7.00                                  
71-72 A/C Fan Shroud (correct ribbed type)  $55.00
72 Headlight Bezels  $50.00 pr            


Jim Chermack
OCA #24275

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:40:00 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: Outsiders 2 Cents

Kerr, Brian (R) wrote:

> To Greg:
> RE: The Quad 4 thread.  Bounce one of those boneheads and make an example of
> him, and see how long the rest of them keep it up.

NOT ME!!! <G>  I have already stepped outta that ring...  I would rather
waste bandwith on what I can do to my Cutlass, than making it out to be
the baddest ride around...  It ain't, not in motor, not in looks...  BUT
IT'S MINE!!!!!!  
- -- 
             		    Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__, 	     1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:43:53 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: Outsiders 2 Cents

Tom Starkey wrote:

> > By the way, MY car can leak tranny fluid faster than any of yours!
> 
> Does it beat my old car's record of a Quart every 2 days?  Mine leaked
> in the front, in the back, on the sides, outta the pan you name it....
> Even the pan had a little pin hole in it...  Kind cool when you had it
> idling..
 
> I think I'm REAL close!  I haven't been measuring how much fluid, just how many bags > of Kitty Litter it takes to soak up all the fluid!

I gave up on the kitty litter, and just parked in the grass..  I must
say, I haven't had to mow my front yard parking spot in quite a few
months... 

I only know it took 1 per 2days cause every two days I had to add a
quart to make it move...  It's bad when you start the car, and it
doesn't move, drop a quart in and BAM, on you go...  And at anypoint, I
COULD pull the dipstick, and be LOWER than full...  <G> I was even to
the point of adding tranny sealer instead of tranny fluid... Blew the
mechanic that rebuilt it's mind when he dropped the pan and blue tranny
fluid came out!!!

> Tom S
> 
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             		    Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__, 	     1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:47:43 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: Speakers - MAYBE an Olds Subject

Andrew A. Senko wrote:

> I just can't comprehend the need for this many subwoofers of this size in
> one car.  Am I alone in this view?

Same here, that's why I have no intention of dropping a box in the
trunk, and plopping big bucks down on an amp to run them.
- -- 
             		    Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__, 	     1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 01:22:47 -0500
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers

Jerry Christopher wrote:
> 
> I am looking for "Awesome" speakers for an 87 Cutlass Supreme 2dr, and I
> am running into a little snag...  Well two actually.
> 
> 1. FRONT Speakers....  How do they come outta their little hiding
> hole???
> 
> 2. Dealers try to push THEIR money brand...  I like the Pioneer 4-Way
> 6x9s, but I can't listen to them in my car before I buy them, as well as
> a preference to the Infiniti front speakers (3 1/2???)  
Can someone with
> experience with the 6X9 class of speakers give a novice a hand...

You're talking to him!  

I've got a pair of Sony XS6953's in the back of my Delta 88, and their
quite possibly the best 6x9 on the market.  It's got the *liquid cooled*
titanium tweeter (3-way), not the "other" kind titanium tweeter. I'm
running them off of a Sony EXM-502 amp, which makes the extra clarity
even more noticeable.  Even though they can handle up to 140 watts each,
the 100x2 amp will crank you right outta the car.

I'm running a pair of Sony 33's (3.5") up front, and they're great for a
$90.00 speaker.  I was going to go with a split component set, but I'm
not that crazy about cutting holes in my doors.  My front factory
speakers are up on the dash, right in front of the windshield, so the
new ones mounted in the stock place, with no visual difference from the
originals.  They can handle up to 40 watts, so I'm just running them off
the deck..(30 watts)...the amp would explode them.

I've been the Pioneer route for 6x9's, and I haven't been that impressed
with them...I listened to them for hours on end in the store, and they
sounded great, but they sounded "flat" in the car.  The reason I bought
them is because they were about 40% cheaper than the Sony 6953's.  They
sounded fairly decent off the deck, but once I put power to them, the
sound quality diminished.  

I've got nothing against Pioneer...I've got a DEH400-H Pioneer CD deck,
which is worth about $550 (CDN).  I'm certainly impressed with it.  But
for speakers, I swear by Sony...they've got the best sound quality I've
ever heard, especially their 6x9's.  If you're looking for a decent amp
to run the 6x9's, the Sony 2501 would do you just fine.  It's the same
wattage as mine (100x2 peak watts), which does a great job.  Unless
you've got more $$$ laying around, stay away from the Sony EXM
series...(which I have).  You'd be perfectly happy with the 2501.

Yes, Sony has the best high-end, but for low-end, I'd swear by Rockford
Fosgate.  I had two 10" RF Punch subs in my car, and it could shake the
whole car...yes, it was great, but that wasn't the type of sound I was
looking for.  Since then I've put a single 10" Crunch sub in a bass
cannon in the trunk, which is the perfect balance;  it's got great
low-end thump, which compliments the high-ends nicely...one thing I
can't stand is overwhelming bass!  I've got a second EXM-502 running
this sub, which sounds good, but it needs a little more power, and a
lower crossover.  I wouldn't suggest using a Sony amp for subs...Alpine,
Rockford Fosgate, and Phoenix Gold have thge market cornered.  But for a
high-end amp, go with Sony...you can't go wrong.

Here's what everything cost me in *Canadian* funds:

Sony EXM-502 amps:   $229.95  (x2)
Sony XS 6953 6x9s:   $180.00
Sony 33's (3.5"):    $80.00  
10" Crunch Sub:      $100.00
Bandpass Box:        $90.00

If you find the XS6953's too expensive, drop down one step...I can't
remember the part #, but I can check it out for you.  The step down from
the 6953's are still an incredible speaker, but the resolution isn't
quite as good at extreme volumes...if you rarely have the voice cranked
to ear-splitting levels, the "step-down" (still a titanium 3-way) will
still give you excellent sound quality.  They can handle 160 watts each,
which leaves lots of room for decent amp...

I've been into car audio for four years now, which doesn't really seem
like a lot, but I've installed five systems myself and listened to about
100.  I've got a system in my Delta 88, which I described, but I've also
got one in my '91 Sierra 4x4.  I had a pair of 6953's in there, along
with a 2351 Sony amp, but I sold them off to a friend of mine.

I really like working with car audio, and all of my advice is based upon
my experiece.  If you need anything else, just mail me...

- ---------------------------------------- 
S. Dave Ward   mailto:ward@ptbo.igs.net 

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

(Ennismore, Ontario, CANADA)

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 01:26:16 -0500
From: Dave Ward <ward@ptbo.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Speakers - MAYBE an Olds Subject

Jerry Christopher wrote:
> 
> Andrew A. Senko wrote:
> 
> > I just can't comprehend the need for this many subwoofers of this size in
> > one car.  Am I alone in this view?
> 
> Same here, that's why I have no intention of dropping a box in the
> trunk, and plopping big bucks down on an amp to run them.

As I mentioned before, I can't stand overwhelming bass!  (I shelled out
for two 10" RF Punch subs, ran them off of a Punch 40, which damn near
blew me outta the car...I hated it!)

Just run one high-quality 10" sub, put about 200 peak watts to it, and
you'll get enough bass to give you a well balanced sound.  I'd
concentrate more on a pair of good 6x9's...

- ----------------------------------------- 
S. Dave Ward   mailto:ward@ptbo.igs.net 

'78 Delta 88 (350 4bbl.)
'85 Delta 88 (307 4bbl.)
'91 GMC Sierra 4x4 (305 TBI)

(Ennismore, Ontario, CANADA)

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:20:15 -0500 (EST)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Magazine]

Muscle Cars bought out by Muscle Car Review in early 97.........
Bernie

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:29:36 -0500 (EST)
From: BIGJERMES@aol.com
Subject: '67 442 with 455 and 200r4 transmission

>>I'm planning on replacing a 307 with a
>>455, and am interested finding out more about your 455/200-4R combination.
>>What modifications were made, and how has it held up to the 455's torque?
>>Please reply to the Olds list, as I'm sure many subscribers would love to
>>hear more about this!

well, the 455 and 200r4 transmission will of coarse bolt up, but there was a
little difference at the crossmember.  we had to move the crossmember back
about 3" or something like that.  the transmission was rebuilt to pretty
strong standards, the guy who did it does alot of that stuff for the grand
national racers.  this thing is supposed to handle up to 600 hp and 500 ft.
lbs of torque.  so far so good on that issue.  um, still using a lockup
torque converter, (had to run a wire but no biggie) and i got a cable for an
'84 ninety eight from the local dealer.  we tried to run an adjustible unit,
but those things are more trouble than thier worth!  the original shifter in
the floor works fine without any mods.  it goes into low with no problems.
 the 455 thats in front of the thing has 9:1 comp, forged pistons and crank,
toro oil pan, edelbrock intake and cam, quadrajet carb, w-30 exhaust
manifolds, "c" heads with oversize valves.  with the performer intake, a
drop- base air cleaner was needed to clear the hood.  got one for a '69 vette
or something like that.  but so far she is a dream to drive!!  hope this can
help any of you "swappers" out there.

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:38:07 -0500 (EST)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Power Steering Gear Swap

just out of curiosity, what is the web address for the buick gn list, i have
an 86 salon that i may want to upgrade, oh hell, of course ill upgrade, in
the future,,,,,,,,
Bernie

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:43:04 -0500 (EST)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Minor Things

In a message dated 97-11-26 19:56:23 EST, you write:

<< Hey, leave him alone.  He must be a cheap beer enthusiast, for spellig,
 er, spelling is the first thing to go when you're drinking.....;^)
  >>
this is the same individual who has a 200k eng w/ORIG belts and hoses, and
claims to be a mech engineer..........oh well, its over now
Bernie

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:52:43 -0500
From: "DREW RACING" <drewracn@gte.net>
Subject: Oldsmobile Diesel 350 Mondello stroker parts for sale.

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454 cubic inches, but decided to go another route.  Time to deal!  Here =
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\ul\b Mondello #8020 \b0\ul0 Fully-prepared, ground, polished, =
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bronze-bushed, forged-steel connecting rods.  Set of 8 rods.  Nice =
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\ul\b Mondello #HS-375 \b0\ul0 Chromolly head stud kit for the 350 =
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\ul\b Mondello #ST-940 \b0\ul0 Chromolly main cap support straps for #'s =
2, 3 and 4 main bearing caps.  Strengthens main caps and eliminates main =
cap walking, resulting in longer main bearing life.  Fits 400, 425 and =
455 engines without machining.  On 260 through 403 engines, caps must be =
machined flat to accept straps.  Kit includes straps, chromolly main =
studs, nuts and washers.  When using No. CT-850 full-length windage =
tray, .500 must be machined off top of #'s 2 and 4 main caps.\par
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\ul\b Mondello #SP-785 \b0\ul0 High-performance oil pump with 3/4", =
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\ul\b Mondello #R-100 \b0\ul0 Oil gallery restrictor kit.  Reduces oil =
supply to top end of the engine.  Set of 3.  These are recommended for =
use with the above oil pan and pump.\par
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\ul\b Moroso #38350 \b0\ul0 Oil pan stud kit.\par
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styles of aluminum or stock steel intake manifolds.  Fits all big block =
400, 425, and 455 as well as small block 350 engines.  Keeps intake =
manifold 100% cooler for efficient performance.  Comes with mounting =
hardware.  Some 1972 and later 350-403 engines require mounting holes =
drilled and tapped.\par
\par
\ul\b Competition Cams #422374 \b0\ul0 Oldsmobile camshaft.  305 degrees =
advertised duration.  Single profile.  I know these are VERY vague =
numbers, but I didn't have the cam card handy!  I will get the exact =
specs upon request. \par
\par
\ul\b Mondello #HL-230 \b0\ul0 High-rev hydraulic valve lifters =
manufactured for Mondello by Engle.  Set of 16.  .921 diameter to fit =
Diesel 350 block.\par
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\ul\b Mondello Neoprene rear main seal \b0\ul0 for 400, 425, 455 and 350 =
diesel Oldsmobile engines.\par
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\ul\b Childs and Albert \b0\ul0 #MO-4550-010 main bearings, #RO-3500-010 =
rod bearings and cam bearings.\par
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out fine.  It is not turned and ready to have whatever machine work done =
to it.  This crank will not work with the Mondello rods listed above.  =
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stroked.\par
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The main caps have been milled down for the main stud and strap kit =
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but I think this stuff my be of interest to some members here.\par
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:58:58 -0500 (EST)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Power doors

check fit-all-kits like the ones thet advertise in JC whitney. I seem them
advertised but never check the years. If you think about, it doesnt sound
like it would hard to do, esp if olds offered it in 69-72 a bodies, you lucky
#@##$$%^!@#^~$&^ who have all those yrs to interchanges various
parts!!!!!!!..........:-]
Bernie
2 67"s !!!!!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:25:21 -0500 (EST)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: reply to whoever

thanks to all those who responded to my little outburst.....i apologize to
all i offended.......

Many people have helped me w/my olds problems, i just got a little carried
away.

I have destroyed my soapbox, and will only try to udder small comments etc.

Happy Turkey Day everyone
Bernie...........................ROCKET POWER---------ROCKET OLDS!!!!!!!!!!!

to all I do say......


I'm SORRY !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:30:13 -0500 (EST)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: reply to whoever (watch your toes!)

see previous reply...............again ,

I APOLOGIZE FOR MAKING AN ASS OUT OF MYSELF!!!!!!!!
Bernie.............................taking medication as I type this.......
gobble gobble,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:32:09 -0500 (EST)
From: RCKTPWR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Impulsive Decisions

how about the only olds a-body w/ horiz tail lights..........64 kinda close
 67 like nose
 very cool.............gobble gobble mmmmmmmmm turkey  mmmmmmmmmmmm

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:48:47 -0800
From: Boogah Wolfe <boogah@en.com>
Subject: Re: On the way to Work...

Paul L. Fikaris wrote:
> 
> I travel about 40 minutes to work each day on the typical large suburban
> freeway (I-480 in Cleveland) and I came upon a Statie parked behind an
> 83ish Cutlass on the side of the road. As I happened by, a guy was cranking
> the Cutlass onto a Jerr-Dan (moving flatbed) truck. Seems like the car
> must've died sometime during the evening commute the night before and, due
> to it resting on nothing more than four jackstands, it had all its wheels
> stolen! Hate to think a misguided Olds fan took the factory mags for their
> own use, but this is what comes to mind. Maybe they thought it WAS dead and
> were merely rescuing the wheels from the boneyard (where proper Olds fans
> go for wheels). Welp, I'd like to think all parties involved were thankful,
> the Olds owner for the years of meritorious service the Olds provided, the
> "wheel remover" for finding a set of "free" mags to display on his
> pride-n-joy Olds, and the Statie for getting a hazard off the road (and
> probably writing the owner a citation for abandonment!)
> 
> Personally, I'm thankful for my family, friends, health, etc.
> Hope everyone has a pleasant holiday, Thanks for your entertaining and
> informative comments on this list.
> 
> Paul L. Fikaris
> 69 Delta 88 Conv 455
> fikaris@en.com

Saw that car too.  It sure was strange seeing it with all 4 wheels
missing.  

Joe
72 Cutlass Supreme
boogah@en.com

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:30:46 -0500 (EST)
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: A-body interchange and big brakes

 where on the net is this interchange info?  how do i find it?

   thanks olds guy  ga...

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:57:10 -0800
From: "David, Terri and Rob" <hoagie@emeraldis.com>
Subject: big block motor question

hey gang,	
	I'm sorry I have been offline for about 3 weeks (lab puppy ate 
through my mouse cord and surged the motherboard, thank gawd for best 
buys ad a 4 year warranty) anywho I have taken apart my 71 442 455 
engine due to no oil into the rocker arms, it started having this 
problem after I installed a Year One (Blue Racer brand) camshaft and 
lifter package...I checked the oil pressure at the sensor opening with a 
guage and was running 20 lbs at dead idle would go to about 60 psi when 
tached up to 4k...when I removed the new cam I found the cam bearings to 
be in proper positon..I called Year One and talked to their technical 
staff and was told that it may need to pre-pump the lifters before 
installation..my question I ask is why would I need to do this I have 
insalled several cams and have never had to do this before would the 
steeper cam come into play or am I barking up the wrong tree....any 
advice from the masters would be greatly apreciated...by the bye happy 
Thangsgiving all you olds Obsessionist!

Hoagie

'70 Cutlass SX convertible
'71 442 W-30 Convertible
'71 442 Holiday Coupe
'71 Monte Carlo
'69 Camaro RS
'97 Camaro Z-28

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:18:02 -0500
From: Jerry Christopher <IThEFunKI@ViperLink.Net>
Subject: Re: MAYBE an Olds Subject - Speakers

Dave Ward wrote:

> the 6953's are still an incredible speaker, but the resolution isn't
> quite as good at extreme volumes...if you rarely have the voice cranked
> to ear-splitting levels, the "step-down" (still a titanium 3-way) will


ZZ-Top at max volumes isn't a good thing???  hahahahaha...  

Like I said, I'm not looking for a performance system, just an upgraded
system..  At the current time, I have no need for amps, or subs, or
boxes and the rest of the mess, but then again, things could change.  

If I were to get back into the speaker game for big bass, I'd have to go
with Rockford Fosgate speakers, and Alpines MRV amp series....
- -- 
             		    Jerry Christopher
     ___        HTTP://WWW2.Viperlink.Net/Members/IThEFunKI
 ___/.o \__, 	     1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
_=O------O=__________It ain't my father's Oldsmobile_______

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:00:23 -0800
From: Mike Frederick <edison3@cpeq.com>
Subject: Re: Speakers - MAYBE an Olds Subject

Drew Senko wrote:
	
> Four 10" subwoofers (in one car) seems excessive to me...
> You might think I'm a person that just doesn't appreciate music, but in
> truth I not only enjoy music, I'm the lead singer of a local band, so 
> I'm very much into music.
> I just can't comprehend the need for this many subwoofers of this size 
> in one car.  Am I alone in this view?

Nope.  Not alone.  While sound is a VERY subjective thing (we don't all 
like the same music, the same speakers, or have the same ears) I'd rather 
my system not add its own "coloration".  I know some may prefer that 
thump-thump-thump in every tune but, as another musician, I like my music 
reproduced the way it was recorded.

As I've said before -- if it sounds good to you, the hell with what 
anyone thinks.   :)

    66 Toro 
The /\   /\ and Mike (who finally got a day off)

                      http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/torolist.html

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     Tampa, Florida           Data Translation & Communication
     (813) 210-8649             http://www.cpeq.com/~edison3/

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:11:40 -0600
From: "Tracy H. Shires" <twodogs@ou.edu>
Subject: Buick-GN web site

At 02:38 AM 11/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>just out of curiosity, what is the web address for the buick gn list, i have
>an 86 salon that i may want to upgrade, oh hell, of course ill upgrade, in
>the future,,,,,,,,
>Bernie
>
Ask and ye shall receive...

http://ni.umd.edu/gnttype/www/



T. H. Shires			81 Rckt 350

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:46:25 -0500 (EST)
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Buick-GN web site

do you know the address  of a buick web site, i part out buicks!!!!
 thanks   olds guy.....

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:52:49 -0500 (EST)
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Buick-GN web site

  i would be interested in knowing of a buick web site?
   i also deal in buick parts...

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:55:41 -0500 (EST)
From: OldsGuyGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: partsvoice

  jim   tried to get you pats voice, recording says it's disconnected?
   maybe it won't work in area code 770?

      jeff atl  olds guy....

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:12:44 -0800
From: mrada <mrada@catalina-inter.net>
Subject: Re: Power Antennas

Hi all,

Why hasn't someone come up with a power antenna setup for 1968 442s
that originally had a manual mounted in the front passenger fender.
I dred the idea of putting a hole in the rear passenger quarter panel
in order to have a power antenna.

Chris Sparks

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:25:04 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: metal thingy

Metal loop at the front left corner of the inatke-
===============
Why, that's for lifting your motor, of course. See also the large hole in the
right rear corner of the block. I actually found one of the factory engine
slings that grabbed these 2 places... at a YARD SALE! An example is also at the
REOTMuseum.

- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:27:59 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: 403/ 68 w/th350 B.S>

sorry, but no other olds block can be bored to the size of the 403.  not even
the diesel 350 blocks 403s can be somewhat safely bored to .40 over but i
wouldnt suggest going over that unless you have a non- windowed block.  hope
this helps
.
Now I'm not sure if a 68 would have the hole for the downshift
cable in the firewall...

     Well, relying on my obviously dubious, but recently jogged memory,
     :-)  I _do_ recall needing to cut a hole in the firewall of that 68
     F-85.  Lacking a square punch, I did the ol' drill-lots-of-holes-
     and-file-what's-left-to-fit trick.
===================
Correct in that you need a 403 block to make a 403. Why not just get a Solid
MAin Web 403 block? I just sold a dozen of them at the scrap metal place, no
one wanted to buy them, go figger. ;-)
.
Hey, if you need an extra hole for the firewall in a '68, I think I can sell
you one... ;-)
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:29:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chris Brown Witt" <wittchri@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: toro oil pan removal

- - ---David Brown <dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu> wrote:
<SNIP>Are Toro oil pans easier to remove, meaning, the engine doesn't
need to be raised or moved? I'm hoping . . .
===============
Worse. RH driveshaft is totally in the way, and the motor/tranny being a solid
ass'y does not make it any easier- I had a really hard time getting the engine
into my 68 Toro w/ the RH shaft in place.
W/ motor in place, no way is oil pan coming off.
- --
Chris  B. Witt :=: wittchri@pilot.msu.edu :=: Location: Mecca [Lansing, MI]
*the* Rocket Scientist, fleet includes '68 Toro, 442, and 442...

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:35:49 -0500 (EST)
From: PSROACH442@aol.com
Subject: 1969.5 442

I have a 1969 4-4-2 with a strange engine config. The motor is a '70 455 with
all the correct stamps and numbers except where the VIN info is supposed to
be is blank. The tranny and rear match the car numbers. The motor numbers
match a 70 4-4-2.
I have heard that motors can be switched at the factory if the orignal is
defective and this is a late production year model. What are the chances that
this is a factory change?  I have taked to the two previous owners and they
said they made no motor changes. Does this change the classification or
desirability of the car

Thanks,    PSROACH442@AOL.COM

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:43:58 -0600
From: "Charles F. Kemp" <bloom@gorilla.net>
Subject: '70 Olds 88

 Hey everybody! A guy at work has a '70 Olds 88 for sale. He's asking $250 and
says it will run with a little work.It's a two door with a good body.I have 
not seen it,but if anyone is really interested I will check it out for you.He 
says it has a 455ci in it.
Fred Kemp
'67 Cutlass
'67 442

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:48:17 -0600
From: "Charles F. Kemp" <bloom@gorilla.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: reply to whoever

At 02:50 AM 11/25/97 -0500, you wrote:
.. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE SUBJECT, JUST DELETE IT!!!!!!!!

>Bernie  NJ  aka Rcktpwr@aol.com

You know, there is another choice in this matter,Bernie.If you think this list
is upsetting your freedom of speech,QUIT the list.
Fred Kemp
'67 Cutlass
'67 442

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:18:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Beaulieu <ab348@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: UNBOUNCE: 1969 442

Not on the list, but interesting...

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:	PSROACH442@aol.com
Subject: 1969.5 442

I have a 1969 4-4-2 with a strange engine config. The motor is a '70 455 with
all the correct stamps and numbers except where the VIN info is supposed to
be is blank. The tranny and rear match the car numbers. The motor numbers
match a 70 4-4-2.
I have heard that motors can be switched at the factory if the orignal is
defective and this is a late production year model. What are the chances that
this is a factory change?  I have taked to the two previous owners and they
said they made no motor changes. Does this change the classification or
desirability of the car

Thanks,    PSROACH442@AOL.COM

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:15:19 -0500 (EST)
From: COUPEKING@aol.com
Subject: Re: '67 442 with 455 and 200r4 transmission/ Edelbrock Mani

I have a '67 rag CS and am just getting ready to install the new 400ci engine
I built for it. I noticed in your post regarding the 455/200r4 trans
installation that you needed a dropped base air cleaner to work with the
Edelbrock Performer manifold. 

I was planning to use the stock type open filter '67 442 air cleaner on my
motor with that manifold. Was it your experience that this unit won't fit?

I've noticed that the new Edelbrock units seem to be much taller than some
older units I've seen --at least for the 400-455's

Anybody out there ' been there done that '??

Peter
CoupeKing@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:29:51 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Stroking an Olds?

Is this possible? I've just been doing some math and found out that if I
used an early 400 crank with 3.975 stroke that I could get 411 cid out
of my 350. And if I could use a 455 crank, I could get about 440 cid.
Would there be any point in doing this, other than I can't find an early
400 crank. Heck, I was lucky enough just to find a 1970 350 N.I. crank!

But, I'm sure all this is impossible due to some technicallity that is
beyond my knowledge. But, c'mon, sh*tvy can take a 350 and 400 and come
up with a 383.
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1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:34:54 -0500
From: Matt Cremean <ccremean@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Grill

ted rollins wrote:
> 
> Looking for the left side of a 75 olds SE grill

I have a 1975 Cutlass 'S' that I am parting out. Is that what kind of
grill you need?

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+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/3973/73olds.html
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:02:56 -0700
From: Dustin Cross <livnrt@mssl.uswest.net>
Subject: Re: '70 Olds 88

What state/city is it in?

Dustin

Charles F. Kemp wrote:
> 
>  Hey everybody! A guy at work has a '70 Olds 88 for sale. He's asking $250 and
> says it will run with a little work.It's a two door with a good body.I have
> not seen it,but if anyone is really interested I will check it out for you.He
> says it has a 455ci in it.
> Fred Kemp
> '67 Cutlass
> '67 442

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:07:24 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Drum Upgrade on '67 CS

Peter,

Look at that era's station wagons.  You will need the backing plates too.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


>
>Am now rebuilding the rearend/susp on my '67 convert. Took the 12 bolt 3.08
>to Hooper's in Sun Valley to rebuild and convert to Posi--$250 seemed
pretty
>reasonable.
>
>Now while I'm at it, I want to bolt on some larger rear drums to complement
>my new front discs. But roaming the local Pick-your-Part can't seem to
easily
>find the bigger brakes with a proper compatible bolt pattern for the
backing
>plates.
>
>Anybody out there "been there, done that" can tell me where to look?
>
>Thanks
>Peter Sliskovich
>CoupeKing@aol.com
>

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:17:50 -0000
From: "Lloyd W. Culp" <bculp@HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: Power Antennas

Chris,

They look so great that I wouldn't hesitate a moment unless I weren't
planning on spotting in the front fender repair.  I have nothing against the
front ones, but the rear ones look just right.  The repair is easily done &
can be permanent.

Bill Culp    bculp@HiWAAY.net
Decatur, Alabama
'62 Jetfire - '67 Toronado - '68 442 convertible


>Hi all,
>
>Why hasn't someone come up with a power antenna setup for 1968 442s
>that originally had a manual mounted in the front passenger fender.
>I dred the idea of putting a hole in the rear passenger quarter panel
>in order to have a power antenna.
>
>Chris Sparks
>

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:33:25 -0800
From: Erik Badzinski <erikreb@netbridge.net>
Subject: EGR question

Hi,

When was the first year EGR was put on Oldsmobiles?  I have seen two
different years, 1972 and '73.  

Also, on my '72 Cutlass, I have the Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifold
which looks like it was the EGR one.  But it looks like they just took
off the EGR and put a gasket and cover over it.  Will this affect the
car any?

Thanks,

Erik B.
72 Cutlass "S"

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:45:25 -0500
From: "Edwin R. Burger III" <eburger@sagelink.com>
Subject: Re: oldsmobile-digest V1 #946

Please remove eburger@sagelink.com from the Oldsmobile mailing list.  Sorry
to bomb the list with this, but I lost the instructons on how to
unsubscribe.  

Thanks!
Ed Burger

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